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| 00:31.51 | BaDiN | olá |
| 00:32.39 | BaDiN | okay, bye :) |
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| 01:07.49 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 01:09.21 | your_dog | i can't believe i missed badin :( |
| 01:09.46 | Chikorita | ? |
| 01:09.59 | Chikorita | ya he was on not 2 long ago |
| 01:10.13 | your_dog | yeah, i needed to talk to him |
| 01:10.31 | your_dog | is this Rebel Chikorita? |
| 01:10.42 | Chikorita | his team matched HoW ... dunno who won |
| 01:10.52 | Chikorita | <<Rebel Chikorita |
| 01:10.56 | Chikorita | :) |
| 01:11.07 | your_dog | ah, i wish i could get my teammates together to play a match...:) |
| 01:11.42 | your_dog | i'm on bzgirl, waiting for anyone who wants to play |
| 01:11.49 | your_dog | ;) |
| 01:11.53 | Michaelhhhh | What are you doing on her? |
| 01:12.00 | Michaelhhhh | Can we play with her too? |
| 01:12.05 | your_dog | come on! |
| 01:12.16 | learner | you haven't met her, have you |
| 01:12.26 | Michaelhhhh | not in person... :) |
| 01:12.47 | Michaelhhhh | he was just saying he was on her.. after all |
| 01:13.04 | Chikorita | wuts da name of ur team dat ur on your_dog? |
| 01:13.18 | scanline | d00d! |
| 01:14.20 | Chikorita | d00d! |
| 01:14.23 | Chikorita | :D |
| 01:14.27 | Chikorita | sup |
| 01:14.29 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 01:16.23 | Chikorita | brb |
| 01:16.32 | Chikorita | revengence! ;D |
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| 01:17.46 | Carnage_ | hi |
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| 01:29.56 | Oman | hi |
| 01:29.59 | uglyman | hi alls |
| 01:30.00 | Chikorita | hi |
| 01:30.05 | Chikorita | hi |
| 01:30.32 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 01:31.02 | Chikorita | bbl |
| 01:31.10 | Oman | If aryone want's my gm mod you can dowload it at pws.chartermi.net/~ffemtdd/ |
| 01:32.06 | Oman | or click this pws.chartermi.net/~ffemtdd/ |
| 01:32.10 | Oman | lol |
| 01:32.36 | Oman | http://pws.chartermi.net/~ffemtdd/ |
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| 01:59.03 | Michaelhhhh | NOTE: this mod has not been tested with bzflag1.10.0 |
| 01:59.06 | Michaelhhhh | I bet :) |
| 02:08.43 | Oman | lol |
| 02:08.46 | Oman | ha ha |
| 02:10.06 | Oman | Michaelhhhh your missile mod is smaller than mine |
| 02:10.13 | Oman | hmmm... |
| 02:10.57 | Oman | bye akk |
| 02:11.02 | Oman | bye all |
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| 02:17.38 | Michaelhhhh | his mod is so great that I can't even tell what's different |
| 02:20.57 | Carnage_ | michellhhhh, are you on a team? |
| 02:21.18 | Michaelhhhh | nope |
| 02:21.35 | Carnage_ | go get on one :) |
| 02:23.30 | Michaelhhhh | or perhaps he was expecting more from the 4 MB download I put up... :) |
| 02:24.39 | Michaelhhhh | I'm sure Patl would give him a spanking for not putting his source up |
| 02:30.20 | creeperz | :-) |
| 02:30.53 | creeperz | prolly gunna be a whole lotta "kicking" around here :-D |
| 02:31.06 | creeperz | well, he might be the only one kicking |
| 02:32.36 | Michaelhhhh | it just looks like pat's missile mod.. for sure not a cheat client |
| 02:32.53 | Michaelhhhh | thought he was doing something spiffier than that |
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| 02:55.18 | yoyox | Hi. |
| 03:03.01 | Carnage_ | hi yoyox |
| 03:05.23 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/BUGS: works for me |
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| 03:13.45 | MrApathyCream | i feel we are beginning to nickle and dime |
| 03:13.58 | MrApathyCream | we should get a plan |
| 03:14.07 | MrApathyCream | uggg,... i sound like patlabor221 |
| 03:14.17 | learner | hehe |
| 03:14.33 | MrApathyCream | are we trying to get a 1.10.4? |
| 03:14.43 | learner | that's what I've gathered |
| 03:18.28 | MrApathyCream | do we have a list of what we're fixing? |
| 03:19.07 | learner | chestal wasn't happy was bugs, so tim was hesitant to move forward. chestal's mostly been appeased since then since the alt-tab problem is now conveniently masked. |
| 03:19.33 | MrApathyCream | so shall we cut a release :) |
| 03:19.37 | MrApathyCream | j/k |
| 03:19.46 | learner | so i think it'll be an easy sell if we push 1.10.4 out |
| 03:19.49 | learner | hehe |
| 03:20.12 | learner | perhaps this weekend, maybe saturday for 1.10.4 |
| 03:20.21 | MrApathyCream | wanna look at BUGS and do another culling? |
| 03:20.24 | learner | should be announce 1.10.2? |
| 03:20.31 | learner | s/be/we/? |
| 03:20.36 | MrApathyCream | we didn't ? |
| 03:20.41 | learner | nope |
| 03:20.44 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:20.50 | learner | not to the list in the DEVINFO |
| 03:20.54 | MrApathyCream | well at this point i guess there's no point |
| 03:21.11 | learner | works for me either way ;) |
| 03:21.18 | learner | I like frequent releases :) |
| 03:21.20 | MrApathyCream | wanna look at BUGS and built a must fix list? |
| 03:21.35 | learner | sure, I only have a couple min though |
| 03:22.26 | MrApathyCream | hmmm actually i don't see anything significant |
| 03:22.42 | learner | the list server should probably get investigated/fixed |
| 03:22.53 | learner | why servers keep accumulating incorrect player counts |
| 03:23.27 | MrApathyCream | mmm |
| 03:23.54 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: chestal seriously improved the screenshot time, good enough for now |
| 03:24.18 | MrApathyCream | coo |
| 03:24.42 | MrApathyCream | the zlib thingy isn't really a bug |
| 03:25.08 | learner | indeed |
| 03:26.03 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (BUGS TODO): the zlib thingy isn't really a bug |
| 03:26.15 | MrApathyCream | coo2 |
| 03:30.32 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/TODO: looks like not much left to do cept sf bugs for 1.10.4 |
| 03:32.22 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: list server woes |
| 03:33.45 | learner | ah.. permission denied to submit news for a 1.10.2 news listing :/ |
| 03:34.28 | MrApathyCream | what news were you adding? |
| 03:35.29 | MrApathyCream | what's this hashmark thing? |
| 03:35.42 | learner | i was going to announce 1.10.2 :) |
| 03:35.59 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 03:36.08 | learner | it's the config -- his server often reports more players than are actually connected |
| 03:36.22 | learner | usually after some amount of time |
| 03:36.46 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 03:36.58 | learner | i've seen other servers do this too, and it's not abuse since a readd doesn't fix the problem -- the servers are reporting those counts |
| 03:39.36 | MrApathyCream | look at Mikey's server it's got a 30/1 |
| 03:39.55 | learner | mikey probably likes it |
| 03:40.55 | learner | did you or tupone fix that invalid player id problem? |
| 03:41.07 | learner | eep, got to run.. back in a little bit |
| 03:41.36 | MrApathyCream | artoo is wrong as well |
| 03:41.45 | MrApathyCream | seya |
| 03:57.49 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx: BU effects ALL radars |
| 04:10.20 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/include/global.h: remove fluff |
| 04:43.07 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/menus.cxx: fix radar range key binding menu |
| 04:43.43 | learner | did we ever care to change the rouge-team-non-team-rabbit issue thing? |
| 04:44.26 | MrApathyCream | i don't care too :) |
| 04:44.36 | learner | heh |
| 04:44.42 | MrApathyCream | need all new munition graphics too, if you do |
| 04:44.50 | learner | that seems to be the consensus it would seem in here :) |
| 04:45.18 | learner | cause I also dudn't care |
| 04:45.29 | learner | graphics i can do |
| 04:45.39 | MrApathyCream | bloats the install tho |
| 04:46.01 | learner | they doubled my download rate, I don't mind.. ;) |
| 04:46.34 | learner | still limited by the same dang upload rate, though :( |
| 04:46.53 | MrApathyCream | poor baby |
| 04:47.02 | learner | waa |
| 04:47.23 | MrApathyCream | is it faster than 33k? |
| 04:48.06 | learner | which up or down? my down is 400KB/s, up peaks at 32KB/s |
| 04:49.08 | MrApathyCream | wow |
| 04:49.24 | learner | it wouldn't matter if I just moved all of my domains to a proper host, but I just haven't had the pressing need still to dish out the 20-50 a month |
| 04:51.43 | learner | do you think it'd be possible to make the hunters appear as non rogues without 1) a big hack and, of course, 2) breaking protocol? |
| 04:54.50 | MrApathyCream | i supposed possible, but there are probably hundreds of ways to have it be a big hack |
| 04:58.21 | MrApathyCream | if you wanted to change it, the right way would be to have another team 'hunters' or whatever |
| 04:59.17 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: fix world caching on windows |
| 05:03.31 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerListCache.cxx: fix server list caching on windows |
| 05:03.45 | learner | yea, so let's just slate it for 1.11 |
| 05:04.17 | learner | i have the very start of a HunterTeam already done, when I thought we were going to 1.11 last week |
| 05:04.23 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:04.38 | Nidhoggr | learner. what sort of stuff domains do you need hosted? |
| 05:04.50 | Nidhoggr | what kind of bandwidth? |
| 05:05.22 | MrApathyCream | off to feed the horsies.bbiab |
| 05:05.34 | MrApathyCream | cut 1.10.4 w/o me if you like |
| 05:05.39 | learner | hehe |
| 05:05.41 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 05:06.31 | learner | Nidhoggr: don't worry -- my biggest concern is just not having direct access to the box right now.. just a mental hurdle that I'll eventually get over |
| 05:06.45 | Nidhoggr | you mean physical access? |
| 05:06.50 | learner | it's nice to see all the real-time log updates etc |
| 05:06.57 | learner | yea, physical |
| 05:07.00 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 05:07.04 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 05:07.26 | Nidhoggr | it's nice having my servers in same datacenter where I work. I was customer before I was employee. |
| 05:34.55 | Nidhoggr | MAC :) |
| 05:41.07 | MrApathyCream | nids, any luck filtering roger? |
| 05:41.37 | Nidhoggr | still working on it. shkoo has been working on big bugfixes |
| 05:42.00 | Nidhoggr | the server buffer issue that causes clients to exit |
| 05:42.23 | learner | and making some of his own in the process :) |
| 05:42.26 | Nidhoggr | he just started secretplace with new code to test that. |
| 05:42.28 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 05:43.48 | learner | MAC, did you see that bind() commit a day or two ago (by me)? thoughts on how setting that will affect NAT'd or proxied servers? |
| 05:45.40 | MrApathyCream | no idea hoss |
| 05:45.48 | learner | k |
| 05:45.49 | MrApathyCream | not really my expertise |
| 05:46.03 | learner | what about your bug report on texture dropping? |
| 05:46.38 | learner | i imagine chestal's undeletion mods will further hide that problem, though I think it was fixed even before that |
| 05:48.52 | MrApathyCream | could be fixed |
| 05:48.55 | MrApathyCream | lemme see |
| 05:58.45 | MrApathyCream | yup fixed |
| 05:58.51 | MrApathyCream | heh, already closed |
| 05:59.03 | ceviche | :) |
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| 06:19.55 | MrApathyCream | ummm, lan56? |
| 06:19.57 | MrApathyCream | whaaa? |
| 06:20.42 | ceviche | yea, silly confused guy |
| 06:20.49 | MrApathyCream | what the heck is he saying? |
| 06:21.00 | MrApathyCream | he removed that code, and now can't connect? |
| 06:21.03 | MrApathyCream | ummm.... |
| 06:21.19 | ceviche | no |
| 06:21.37 | ceviche | he tried adding the line you referred to _somewhere_ and it wouldn't compile (go figure) |
| 06:22.34 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 06:22.36 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:25.18 | ceviche | who runs secretplace? |
| 06:25.45 | MrApathyCream | um |
| 06:25.52 | MrApathyCream | nidhoggr? |
| 06:27.08 | ceviche | secretplace apparently has the must identify thing enabled, and it's saying i am enabled.. yet I don't recall ever doing so |
| 06:31.06 | MrApathyCream | wow that prompt needs to stay up a little longer |
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| 06:31.38 | Nidhoggr | what's happening? |
| 06:32.23 | ceviche | what do you mean? |
| 06:32.31 | ceviche | it says i need to identify |
| 06:32.43 | MrApathyCream | yes that one, but it goes away after a second for me |
| 06:32.44 | Nidhoggr | you are definitely registered |
| 06:32.53 | ceviche | so either someone has registered learner who was not me, or I'm forgetting a password |
| 06:33.02 | Nidhoggr | LEARNER |
| 06:33.02 | Nidhoggr | DEFAULT REGISTERED |
| 06:33.04 | MrApathyCream | pw = learner |
| 06:33.13 | ceviche | hehe |
| 06:33.22 | Nidhoggr | I can dereg |
| 06:33.24 | Nidhoggr | if ya want |
| 06:33.41 | MrApathyCream | so, how does one change the password? can you? |
| 06:33.50 | ceviche | nah, if that's the pass I can reset it -- i tried that |
| 06:34.01 | ceviche | at least i thought I had tried that |
| 06:34.19 | Nidhoggr | supposed to be able to use /setpassword callsign pass but it hasn't worked in past. |
| 06:34.38 | MrApathyCream | oh yeah? |
| 06:35.58 | MrApathyCream | need set permission |
| 06:36.09 | MrApathyCream | perhaps we should special case the setting of ones own password |
| 06:36.23 | MrApathyCream | and always allow that, so long as you have already identified |
| 06:37.23 | MrApathyCream | ah! |
| 06:37.30 | MrApathyCream | i see its setpassword, not set password |
| 06:37.43 | MrApathyCream | and that was just fixed recently, as set was masking all setXXX calls |
| 06:39.59 | MrApathyCream | ok it works |
| 06:40.05 | MrApathyCream | it's /setpass newpassword |
| 06:40.21 | Nidhoggr | nod. for your pass. not for admin tochange user's pass |
| 06:40.32 | MrApathyCream | right |
| 06:41.00 | MrApathyCream | nid... /set _flagPoleSize 20.0 |
| 06:41.01 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 06:41.27 | MrApathyCream | ah no one will see it till they the new client, never mind |
| 06:43.08 | ceviche | but still fun :) |
| 06:48.41 | ceviche | as expected, though, flags are incorrectly not picked up if they are made really tall :) |
| 06:49.03 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 06:49.15 | MrApathyCream | really? |
| 06:49.42 | MrApathyCream | i didn't notice that |
| 06:49.57 | ceviche | yea -- if I set them to 30 or so on playground, they shoot through the ceilings yet you can't get them from there :) |
| 06:50.13 | MrApathyCream | oh, yeah, you need to get them at the base |
| 06:50.16 | ceviche | Pat just picked bzflag19.bzc |
| 06:50.35 | MrApathyCream | tankbase == flagbase, means you can pick up |
| 06:50.49 | MrApathyCream | seems like it should be bzflag110.bzc |
| 06:51.09 | Nidhoggr | 1.9 is current protocol version, right? |
| 06:51.56 | MrApathyCream | network, yes |
| 06:51.57 | Nidhoggr | well, I need to sleep. nite all. |
| 06:52.12 | MrApathyCream | which seems silly too |
| 06:53.57 | ceviche | silly? |
| 06:54.19 | MrApathyCream | why not 1.10 |
| 06:55.24 | ceviche | i could see that, I guess, but it does at least let you know exactly what version what the last one to break protocol |
| 06:55.59 | MrApathyCream | yah, not a big thing, just a late nite conundrum |
| 06:57.02 | ceviche | yea, I was pushing for BZFS0001 for a while .. still interesting in a way, but i admit not actually as useful as knowing the version that last broke it |
| 06:57.02 | ceviche | welp.. time to zzz |
| 06:57.20 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 06:57.23 | MrApathyCream | l8r |
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| 15:05.33 | Grumbler | good morning, guten aben, god aften |
| 15:08.47 | your_dog | good morning |
| 15:08.57 | your_dog | oodgay orningmay :) |
| 15:09.05 | your_dog | that's the only other language i know |
| 15:11.37 | Grumbler | the frustrations of an american education |
| 15:12.00 | Grumbler | i feel your pain :) |
| 15:13.02 | your_dog | :P |
| 15:13.46 | Pimpinella | who's that guy 'kill -9' ? |
| 15:13.55 | Pimpinella | he's good |
| 15:15.00 | Chestal | isn't he an admin of some server? |
| 15:15.11 | Pimpinella | dunno |
| 15:15.30 | Pimpinella | saw him only 2-3 times so far |
| 15:17.22 | your_dog | someone has a callsign 'kill -9' ? |
| 15:18.17 | Pimpinella | yes |
| 15:18.31 | Pimpinella | and he does so :) |
| 15:18.45 | your_dog | hehe |
| 15:20.31 | your_dog | is there a command for bzadmin that shows scores and such? |
| 15:20.45 | Pimpinella | Chestal: u put ur ctf-server on 5156 again? |
| 15:21.29 | Chestal | yes |
| 15:21.37 | Pimpinella | schön |
| 15:21.41 | Chestal | 1.10 |
| 15:22.53 | Pimpinella | couldnt keep the long port-number in mind |
| 15:23.24 | Chestal | that's what the list server is for :-) |
| 15:24.03 | Pimpinella | i barely use the gui |
| 15:28.45 | *** join/#bzflag Death_Barrel (clx@gss-tech.com) |
| 15:29.26 | your_dog | g2g, cy'all l8r |
| 15:30.48 | Death_Barrel | anyone here want to see the new HoW web template? |
| 15:31.01 | Pimpinella | where? |
| 15:31.05 | Death_Barrel | http://www.kelsoes.com/how/finalhowtempsound.swf |
| 15:31.09 | Death_Barrel | it is a flash movie |
| 15:31.20 | Death_Barrel | so it may take a bit to cache in your browser |
| 15:31.28 | Death_Barrel | but it is worth the wait :) |
| 15:31.33 | Pimpinella | loading |
| 15:31.38 | Death_Barrel | cool :) |
| 15:32.55 | Death_Barrel | is it loaded yet? |
| 15:33.23 | Pimpinella | just started |
| 15:33.27 | larsl | Mozilla just says "Waiting for www.kelsoes.com" |
| 15:33.34 | Death_Barrel | yeah same here |
| 15:33.36 | larsl | Ah, now it loads. |
| 15:33.48 | Death_Barrel | yeah we had to wait on pimp i guess :) |
| 15:34.33 | Pimpinella | cool, indeed |
| 15:35.26 | Pimpinella | nice work |
| 15:35.30 | Death_Barrel | thx :) |
| 15:35.31 | larsl | Nice. |
| 15:35.32 | Death_Barrel | took me all day |
| 15:35.38 | larsl | I'm not much of a metal fan though. =) |
| 15:35.39 | Death_Barrel | did you hear the background music? |
| 15:35.45 | Death_Barrel | i guess you did |
| 15:35.46 | Pimpinella | i do |
| 15:35.47 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 15:35.52 | Death_Barrel | ok i need to fix that |
| 15:36.00 | Death_Barrel | i told it to fade in |
| 15:36.09 | Death_Barrel | and it was not quite what i though it was |
| 15:36.21 | Pimpinella | i like the music, what is it? |
| 15:36.45 | Death_Barrel | Zakk Wylde's Black Label Society |
| 15:36.54 | Death_Barrel | "conterfeit god" |
| 15:37.45 | Death_Barrel | he plays guitar for Ozzy Osbourne |
| 15:37.51 | Death_Barrel | zakk wylde that is |
| 15:38.01 | Pimpinella | would change the "Page [1-5]" anim |
| 15:38.18 | Death_Barrel | yeah like i said it is just a template |
| 15:38.24 | Death_Barrel | until i am finished :) |
| 15:38.43 | larsl | Ooh, GIMP 2 is released. This is bad for my exam studying. |
| 15:38.46 | *** join/#bzflag Death_Barrel (clx@gss-tech.com) |
| 15:38.49 | Nidhoggr | is there a command for getting scores and stuff in bzadmin? that would rule :) |
| 15:38.55 | larsl | OK, a preview of GIMP 2. |
| 15:38.56 | Grumbler | cool, and the music fell right in step with the Tora Tora I am listening to now.....nice work |
| 15:39.08 | Death_Barrel | thx :) |
| 15:39.16 | larsl | Nidhoggr: There isn't. |
| 15:39.27 | larsl | It would be easy enough to add though. |
| 15:39.41 | Nidhoggr | because you are blind to a lot of things. |
| 15:39.50 | Nidhoggr | like pausing, etc. |
| 15:40.11 | Death_Barrel | so you guys like it better than the site i am using now?? |
| 15:40.18 | Death_Barrel | www.kelsoes.com/how |
| 15:40.26 | Grumbler | Death_Barrel: dont know your current site |
| 15:40.32 | larsl | There's a "patch" in SF that adds messages for pausing, spawning, rabbiting etc. |
| 15:40.35 | Death_Barrel | www.kelsoes.com/how |
| 15:40.58 | larsl | It's not a real diff though, it's a modified version of old source files. I asked the author to make it a patch so I could apply it. |
| 15:41.23 | larsl | Because I'm to lazy to merge it manually. =) |
| 15:41.24 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 15:41.26 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:41.36 | Nidhoggr | shkoo fixed the jittery refresh thing |
| 15:42.00 | Grumbler | Death_Barrel: from a coolness standpoint, yes the new one is better, from getting information out of something, the old one is better because it is a faster download |
| 15:42.12 | larsl | Yes, I saw that. I don't think I noticed it, but I've only been running bzadmin on the local system. |
| 15:42.19 | Nidhoggr | nod. I run it remotely. |
| 15:42.24 | Nidhoggr | I should test it in screen again. |
| 15:42.31 | larsl | I might add player scores to the player list in the curses menu, if there's room. |
| 15:42.33 | Nidhoggr | maybe that fixed. |
| 15:42.34 | Pimpinella | Death_Barrel: the current one is usable for modem-users :) |
| 15:42.43 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 15:42.51 | Death_Barrel | but it also has php |
| 15:42.54 | Nidhoggr | or a function key to do a playerlist and add scores to it. |
| 15:42.58 | Grumbler | Death_Barrel: maybe you need a skip-intro button |
| 15:43.02 | Death_Barrel | the php goes out and collects all the roster and score data |
| 15:43.18 | Death_Barrel | Grumbler: i will :) |
| 15:43.19 | Nidhoggr | it'd be nice to be able to see email info too like in the score on the regular client. |
| 15:43.37 | larsl | bzadmin is duplicating more and more of bzflag's message handling... we could use a general game library. |
| 15:43.47 | Nidhoggr | good idea. |
| 15:43.59 | Death_Barrel | i will have to get with strayer so he can help me implement the php into the new template |
| 15:44.18 | Nidhoggr | I know that I can sit on a server for a long time on bzadmin |
| 15:44.57 | Nidhoggr | I stick it in an xterm and stretch it to full screen height. you have to on secretplace to see anything. |
| 15:45.22 | Nidhoggr | i wonder if it auto-resizes now |
| 15:45.51 | larsl | It should, but I think there are some bugs left. |
| 15:46.24 | Nidhoggr | I'm more than happy to test them all out.:) |
| 15:46.33 | Nidhoggr | bzadmin is the best thing since sliced bread. |
| 15:46.49 | Nidhoggr | except bans don't work anymore. :( |
| 15:47.05 | Nidhoggr | but it's easier to cut and paste ips in an xterm |
| 15:47.10 | Nidhoggr | than in a regular client. |
| 15:47.11 | Grumbler | Nidhoggr: ever consider adding the genocide flag to dragon?.......it would be a little unfair |
| 15:47.29 | Nidhoggr | nope. :) |
| 15:47.39 | Nidhoggr | we thought about it, laughed a lot, and moved on. |
| 15:47.40 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:47.45 | Grumbler | :) |
| 15:47.52 | Nidhoggr | dragon is a lot of fun. |
| 15:47.59 | Grumbler | yes |
| 15:48.20 | Grumbler | if there was just a better way to keep the tk down |
| 15:48.28 | Nidhoggr | we were going to do our rotating server, then started rabbit on that map, and now we are re-thinking our strategy. we are probably putting up a 3rd server for rotating. |
| 15:48.42 | Nidhoggr | I know... rogue colored team is just a bad idea. |
| 15:48.43 | larsl | Nidhoggr: I'm working on the bans. The menu patch (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=871844&group_id=3248&atid=303248)should have a ban function, when it's done. It parses the server messages for playerlist entries to get the IP. |
| 15:48.45 | Nidhoggr | hunter orang! |
| 15:48.46 | Nidhoggr | e |
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| 15:49.05 | Nidhoggr | oh, cool, larsl.. thanks for thinking ahead. :) |
| 15:49.27 | Death_Barrel | thx guys, i will be back later :) |
| 15:49.29 | Nidhoggr | 3rd server will probably be bzflag.vicious.com (shkoo's domain) |
| 15:49.33 | Nidhoggr | and will be rotating. |
| 15:50.29 | larsl | What does geno do in rabbit hunt? |
| 15:50.35 | larsl | Kill all the rogues? |
| 15:50.40 | Nidhoggr | I would imagine. |
| 15:50.45 | Nidhoggr | we haven't tried it. :) |
| 15:52.11 | larsl | Yes, looks like it would. |
| 15:52.26 | larsl | It could be interesting to put one G flag in there. |
| 15:52.29 | larsl | =) |
| 15:52.39 | Nidhoggr | eek! |
| 15:52.41 | Nidhoggr | hide it good |
| 15:52.42 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:53.24 | Nidhoggr | shkoo is going to write a server patch that allows us to restrict autopilot. |
| 15:53.48 | Nidhoggr | I think that's important on dragon.org rabbit server especially. no fun having steath when people can just throw on autopilot. |
| 15:54.04 | Nidhoggr | we'll eventually force people to upgrade clients. |
| 15:54.16 | Nidhoggr | when 1.10.4 is released. |
| 15:54.32 | larsl | Does the client tell the server when it's using autopilot now? |
| 15:54.49 | Nidhoggr | as of a day or 2 ago... MAC put it in. |
| 15:54.54 | larsl | That is good. |
| 15:54.56 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 15:55.00 | Chestal | well, it does not really tell the server |
| 15:55.09 | Chestal | it sends a readable message |
| 15:55.36 | Chestal | might be good to make that a status flag like paused in a future, protocol breaking version |
| 15:55.48 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 15:55.49 | Nidhoggr | I agree. |
| 15:56.48 | larsl | Maybe add some server flags too. Pausing allowed/not allowed, roger allowed/not allowed etc. |
| 15:58.31 | Grumbler | How Do You Catch a Unique Rabbit |
| 15:58.40 | Grumbler | Unique Up On It |
| 15:58.50 | Grumbler | How Do You Catch a Tame Rabbit |
| 15:59.00 | Grumbler | Tame Way, Unique Up On It |
| 15:59.06 | larsl | =) |
| 15:59.22 | Grumbler | How Do Crazy People Go Through The Forest |
| 15:59.30 | Grumbler | They Take The Psycho Path |
| 15:59.40 | Grumbler | How Do You Make Holy Water |
| 15:59.49 | Grumbler | You Boil The Hell Out Of It |
| 16:00.07 | Grumbler | What Do Fish Say When They Hit a Concrete Wall |
| 16:00.11 | Grumbler | Dam! |
| 16:00.23 | Chestal | aua |
| 16:00.28 | Grumbler | What Do You Call a Boomerang That Doesn't work? |
| 16:00.37 | Grumbler | A Stick |
| 16:00.55 | Grumbler | What Do You Call Santa's Helpers? |
| 16:01.02 | Grumbler | Subordinate Clauses. |
| 16:01.13 | Grumbler | What Do You Get From a Pampered Cow? |
| 16:01.21 | Grumbler | Spoiled Milk. |
| 16:01.41 | Grumbler | .....ok, there are a few more, but it was worth it...hahaha |
| 16:08.15 | Nidhoggr | oof |
| 16:08.32 | Nidhoggr | 2 lawyers walk into a bar.... |
| 16:08.38 | Nidhoggr | the third one ducks |
| 16:10.15 | Grumbler | What's The Difference Between Roast Beef And Pea Soup? |
| 16:10.21 | Nidhoggr | ? |
| 16:10.27 | Grumbler | Anyone Can |
| 16:10.27 | Grumbler | > Roast Beef. |
| 16:10.32 | Nidhoggr | snort |
| 16:10.50 | Grumbler | Where Do You Find a Dog With No Legs? |
| 16:10.55 | Nidhoggr | after new years party last week... oh, nevermind. :) |
| 16:10.59 | Grumbler | Right Where You Left Him. |
| 16:11.01 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:11.12 | Nidhoggr | what do you call a man with no arms or legs on your doorstep? |
| 16:11.17 | Nidhoggr | matt |
| 16:11.21 | Nidhoggr | on your wall? |
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| 16:11.23 | Nidhoggr | art |
| 16:11.29 | Grumbler | ha |
| 16:11.31 | Nidhoggr | in your pool |
| 16:11.32 | Grumbler | Why Do Gorillas Have Big Nostrils? |
| 16:11.32 | Nidhoggr | bob |
| 16:11.37 | Nidhoggr | in your mailbox? |
| 16:11.39 | Nidhoggr | bill |
| 16:11.39 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:11.42 | Nidhoggr | why? |
| 16:11.47 | Grumbler | Because They Have Big Fingers. |
| 16:11.52 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:11.54 | Grumbler | haha, bob |
| 16:12.43 | Grumbler | How Are a Texas Tornado And a Tennessee Divorce The Same? |
| 16:12.49 | Nidhoggr | ? |
| 16:12.51 | Grumbler | Somebody's Gonna Lose A Trailer |
| 16:12.55 | Nidhoggr | oh, my |
| 16:12.57 | Nidhoggr | we did a cartoon |
| 16:13.28 | Nidhoggr | a man with a fishing pole with a trailer home attached. it's titled "fishing for tornados" |
| 16:14.32 | Grumbler | haha |
| 16:15.21 | Nidhoggr | mmm. had my 32 oz of coffee for the day. |
| 16:15.32 | Nidhoggr | used the last of the NDC at work. |
| 16:15.58 | Grumbler | i predict many trips to the water closet |
| 16:16.01 | Nidhoggr | my body is used to it. |
| 16:16.05 | Nidhoggr | so not too bad. |
| 16:16.23 | Grumbler | lucky you |
| 16:16.40 | Nidhoggr | I have a large coffee cup at work. a big cobalt blue coffee shop style cup. holds 20 oz. |
| 16:16.48 | Nidhoggr | ceramic |
| 16:16.58 | Grumbler | i assume you made it? |
| 16:17.00 | Nidhoggr | I only stick 16 in it a time though |
| 16:17.00 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:17.01 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 16:17.16 | Nidhoggr | bought it at local kitchen supply place. |
| 16:17.18 | larsl | ~convert 1 oz to cl |
| 16:17.27 | larsl | ~convert 1 oz to liter |
| 16:17.35 | Grumbler | haha |
| 16:17.41 | Nidhoggr | convert 1 fluid oz to liters |
| 16:17.48 | Nidhoggr | ~convert 1 fluid oz to liters |
| 16:17.56 | Nidhoggr | hrm |
| 16:18.02 | Grumbler | ~convert 1 oz to ml |
| 16:18.09 | Nidhoggr | ~convert 2 cups to liters |
| 16:18.32 | Nidhoggr | so I have about 1 liter of coffee every morning. |
| 16:18.34 | Grumbler | ~convert 1 quart to ml |
| 16:18.36 | Chestal | my cup is bigger |
| 16:18.36 | Nidhoggr | 4 cups |
| 16:19.04 | Nidhoggr | mmmm. coffee. |
| 16:19.06 | Grumbler | is it 16oz in a quart or 4.......hmmm, forgot |
| 16:19.24 | Nidhoggr | 16 to a pint |
| 16:19.27 | Nidhoggr | 32 to a quart. |
| 16:21.05 | Grumbler | bloody english units, why cant we just go metric and get rid of this quart/pint garbage. |
| 16:21.10 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:21.20 | Nidhoggr | there is a trend towards metric again. |
| 16:21.39 | Nidhoggr | it's being driven by businesses this time, so it might actually stick. |
| 16:23.22 | Grumbler | world economy, world units |
| 16:23.42 | larsl_away | World currency? |
| 16:23.55 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:23.58 | Nidhoggr | that'd be cool |
| 16:23.59 | Grumbler | thats what us conspiracy theorist think |
| 16:24.12 | Nidhoggr | is there a configure option for static binaries for bz? |
| 16:24.34 | Grumbler | everything controlled by a small group of people in IMF |
| 16:26.08 | Pimpinella | ~d |
| 16:27.13 | Nidhoggr | larsl, it seems shkoo's updates to bzadmin fixed it not working in screen. |
| 16:27.26 | larsl | Nice. |
| 16:27.45 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:27.48 | larsl | You might be able to set LDFLAGS to get static binaries. I'm not sure though. |
| 16:27.55 | Nidhoggr | I can for bzfs |
| 16:28.06 | Nidhoggr | which I do manually after the ./configure --disable-client |
| 16:28.15 | Nidhoggr | in bzfs/Makefile |
| 16:28.51 | Nidhoggr | works really well in screen now. *cheer* |
| 16:33.14 | Nidhoggr | 187 registered players on secretplace. |
| 16:33.36 | Chestal | 281 on ducati :-) |
| 16:33.44 | Nidhoggr | very cool :) |
| 16:33.54 | Chestal | not sure how many of those are active |
| 16:33.56 | Nidhoggr | we need more people to register, so voting is useful. |
| 16:34.06 | Chestal | people rarely identify when they join, though |
| 16:35.07 | Nidhoggr | we are requiring it with the new mods. |
| 16:35.25 | Nidhoggr | we had a lot of issues with people impersonating admins |
| 16:36.11 | Nidhoggr | our old 1.7 servers even marked admins with (A) in lagstats. |
| 16:36.49 | Pimpinella | voting works fine, started poll for 2 times and they quit [freiwillig] both times |
| 16:37.04 | Pimpinella | ~x de en freiwillig |
| 16:40.30 | Pimpinella | there was an option for adjusting tankcolours in the .bzflag file. is there one for 1.10 too? |
| 16:47.05 | Pimpinella | man bzflag:Files-Section shows $HOME/.bzflag to be the config-file, shold be $HOME/.bzf/config now |
| 16:47.18 | Pimpinella | should |
| 16:57.44 | Nidhoggr | is the percentage in lagstats the total percentage of packets lost? |
| 16:58.42 | Pimpinella | hm how could u quantisize package loss |
| 16:59.21 | Pimpinella | its udp, remote wont tell u |
| 16:59.47 | Nidhoggr | dunno. |
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| 17:09.43 | WFF-dheckaman | ho Nidhoggr |
| 17:15.33 | Nidhoggr | what's up mr doug? |
| 17:20.25 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:20.41 | Nidhoggr | at night it's crazy. |
| 17:20.53 | Nidhoggr | 20 people on and every other newbie TKing. |
| 17:21.19 | Nidhoggr | and they are so newbie that they can't read the message boxes, because it's too much to take in. :) |
| 17:25.27 | larsl | What's the percentage in the score table that only shows up in rabbit games? |
| 17:26.12 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 17:26.40 | Nidhoggr | oh. percentage time as a rabbit maybe? |
| 17:26.48 | Nidhoggr | I can't see it cuz all I ahve is admin at work |
| 17:30.32 | Pimpinella | i dont see any percentage |
| 17:30.57 | larsl | I get 390 ms lag on dragon.org. =P |
| 17:32.05 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 17:32.13 | Nidhoggr | secretplace bzfs crashed |
| 17:32.17 | Nidhoggr | just restarted. |
| 17:32.28 | Nidhoggr | larsl :( |
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| 17:56.52 | Chestal | someoen had a questin on the packet loss value displayed? |
| 17:57.06 | Nidhoggr | how does that work? |
| 17:57.22 | Nidhoggr | if someone shows 30% loss, how is that figured? |
| 17:57.24 | Chestal | it looks at MsgPlayerUpdate |
| 17:57.36 | Chestal | this message contains a sequence number sent by each client |
| 17:57.42 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 17:57.42 | Chestal | (and a timestamp, too) |
| 17:58.10 | Nidhoggr | so it really does indicate a problem if it's 30% :) |
| 17:58.10 | Chestal | it's a moving average, similar to the lag value itself |
| 17:58.32 | Chestal | actually, it's using exponential smoothing (or even more specific, a Kalman filter modification) |
| 17:58.47 | Chestal | it should normally be 0, i.e. not be displayed |
| 17:59.05 | Chestal | the jitter value (+- thing) is based on the timestamps in MsgPlayerUdate |
| 17:59.30 | Chestal | it's not derived from the lag ping measurements that the absulute lag value is based on |
| 18:00.59 | Nidhoggr | ah |
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| 18:58.33 | your_dog | hey Nidhoggr |
| 19:00.29 | Nidhoggr | hi |
| 19:01.51 | your_dog | i'm on bzgirl server if anyone wants to play |
| 19:02.07 | Nidhoggr | I also need to go get lunch soon. hrm. |
| 19:02.07 | your_dog | :( |
| 19:02.22 | your_dog | man, i've already eaten ;) |
| 19:02.28 | your_dog | you're eating late :) |
| 19:02.45 | Nidhoggr | it's 12:02 PM here. :) |
| 19:03.10 | Nidhoggr | I don't have to play. *snort* |
| 19:03.17 | your_dog | i was fixing to say...phone |
| 19:03.44 | Nidhoggr | i ar an ekzpurt |
| 19:03.57 | your_dog | hehehe |
| 19:04.08 | your_dog | my family says it's really easy for me to play stupid :) |
| 19:04.53 | your_dog | i know they're kidding though, i just replaced the brake shoes on our Jeep :) |
| 19:05.09 | your_dog | they wouldn't let me do that if they thought i was stupid :) |
| 19:05.42 | your_dog | not to mention all the other work i do on the autos |
| 19:06.38 | Grumbler | if you have a Jeep, then I assume you know about all sorts of repairs :) |
| 19:06.54 | your_dog | :P |
| 19:07.04 | your_dog | this one was neglected (sp?) |
| 19:08.13 | your_dog | we had to put a new head gasket, valve stem seals and umbrellas, valve cover gasket, intake/exhaust gasket, and other stuff on it |
| 19:08.40 | your_dog | new alternator, and battery |
| 19:08.50 | your_dog | new carb too |
| 19:08.59 | your_dog | had to fix the 4WD |
| 19:09.05 | your_dog | and the wiring :) |
| 19:09.21 | your_dog | now we need a new fuel pump :( |
| 19:09.28 | your_dog | it never ends :'( |
| 19:10.33 | your_dog | we have an old 67 Ford F100 pickup, it's been the cheapest mode of transportation that we've ever had |
| 19:10.39 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 19:10.59 | your_dog | it's got the 300cid l6 in it |
| 19:11.14 | your_dog | so much room under the hood, you can stand in the engine compartment :) |
| 19:11.26 | your_dog | :) |
| 19:11.44 | your_dog | we also have a 98 Freightliner Classic :) |
| 19:12.02 | Nidhoggr | well, I am mechanically inclined, just not up on automotive stuff. |
| 19:12.28 | your_dog | yeah, just takes some reading and working :) |
| 19:12.36 | Nidhoggr | I've replaced brake shoes before |
| 19:12.41 | Nidhoggr | and thermostats on old cars |
| 19:12.47 | Nidhoggr | and other stuff. |
| 19:12.48 | your_dog | i haven't ever read much about automotive repair, just started working on them :) |
| 19:12.57 | Nidhoggr | my current car is too new to futz with. |
| 19:13.05 | Nidhoggr | still under warranty for a few more years. |
| 19:13.06 | your_dog | what kind of brake shoes? drum or rotor? |
| 19:13.10 | your_dog | ah |
| 19:13.10 | Nidhoggr | both |
| 19:13.15 | Nidhoggr | on older cars. |
| 19:13.18 | your_dog | i hate drum brakes :( |
| 19:13.21 | Nidhoggr | my current cars are shoes on both. |
| 19:13.22 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 19:13.30 | Nidhoggr | current car |
| 19:13.36 | your_dog | that's what i just did that on our jeep |
| 19:13.45 | your_dog | i like the disc brakes :) |
| 19:13.45 | Nidhoggr | <-- has a 99 vw newbeetle |
| 19:13.53 | your_dog | ah, cool |
| 19:14.01 | your_dog | we have a 2000 Dodge Intrepid |
| 19:14.07 | Nidhoggr | noodle, I know some stuff... but newer cars are not so easy. |
| 19:14.14 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 19:14.16 | your_dog | no |
| 19:14.21 | Nidhoggr | I have 7 year warranty. |
| 19:14.24 | Nidhoggr | they can fix it. |
| 19:14.25 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:14.29 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 19:14.31 | Nidhoggr | cost me enough. |
| 19:14.41 | your_dog | we bought the intrepid used, so no warranty :( |
| 19:14.44 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 19:15.05 | your_dog | i think there was a 30 day warranty, but that was it |
| 19:15.15 | Nidhoggr | that's typical of used places. |
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| 19:15.37 | your_dog | yeah |
| 19:15.45 | Noodleman | we bought our 2001 ford ranger used, but we've got a warranty on it |
| 19:15.50 | Noodleman | don't know the specifics |
| 19:15.57 | your_dog | my dad bought our 67 ford about 15 years ago for about 1000 dollars |
| 19:16.01 | Noodleman | like how long it lasts :-P |
| 19:16.08 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 19:16.37 | Nidhoggr | I should be good until oct 2006 |
| 19:16.48 | your_dog | he then put about $1000 in it |
| 19:17.15 | your_dog | haven't spent much on it sense then :) |
| 19:17.23 | your_dog | *since |
| 19:17.54 | Nidhoggr | some of those old cars are great. |
| 19:18.05 | Nidhoggr | I had a 71 toyota corona |
| 19:18.07 | your_dog | yeah, i like fords :) |
| 19:18.07 | Nidhoggr | it was awesome. |
| 19:18.21 | Nidhoggr | I gotta get some lunch. back soon. |
| 19:18.27 | your_dog | we had an 85...ok |
| 19:26.39 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 19:26.56 | bryjen | ~bzfquery 68.109.43.46:5155 |
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| 19:32.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
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| 19:46.22 | Grumbler | out Tora Tora, in Metallica............the Big Hair Band parade continues |
| 19:53.13 | Patlabor221 | wow that's a lot of bugs last night, what happend? |
| 20:02.53 | Nidhoggr | the orkin man came by |
| 20:02.56 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 20:03.46 | your_dog | the orkin man? |
| 20:03.55 | larsl | ~xmission |
| 20:04.34 | larsl | your_dog: Are you still on xmission? I went NR, and now I can't connect. |
| 20:05.07 | your_dog | no, i'm not, i can't either |
| 20:05.36 | your_dog | can't get connected either :( |
| 20:06.31 | CIA-1 | 03shkoo * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: don't crash server if no reason given for /kick |
| 20:09.31 | Nidhoggr | ow |
| 20:09.34 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 20:10.13 | your_dog | i don't know what in the heck is wrong with xmisison, but i can't get reconnected |
| 20:10.57 | Pimpinella | maybe someone was kicked without given a reason? |
| 20:11.02 | Pimpinella | :) |
| 20:11.45 | your_dog | who? me? |
| 20:11.52 | your_dog | i wasn't playing, i was observing |
| 20:11.55 | Pimpinella | nooooo |
| 20:12.14 | Pimpinella | look at CIA-message some lines above |
| 20:12.30 | *** join/#bzflag michaelh (~meeqrg@63-229-212-197.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 20:12.35 | your_dog | oh, ok |
| 20:21.07 | michaelh | Does the post office sell regular boxes that would fit a motherboard? |
| 20:21.07 | michaelh | Or do I have to scrounge up my own box? |
| 20:21.07 | your_dog | so does that mean that the server has to be restarted? |
| 20:21.07 | Nidhoggr | michael it should |
| 20:21.07 | Pimpinella | your_dog: maye |
| 20:21.07 | Pimpinella | maybe |
| 20:21.08 | your_dog | oh, that stinks |
| 20:21.08 | michaelh | so you must be my dog... |
| 20:21.08 | your_dog | hehe |
| 20:21.08 | your_dog | woof woof :) |
| 20:21.10 | Pimpinella | if everybody gets nr and no reconnect is possible.....thats a good hint for a server down |
| 20:21.10 | michaelh | Anyone know anything about the T41 "Think Express" thinkpads? |
| 20:21.10 | michaelh | are they a cheapened version ? |
| 20:21.11 | your_dog | can't reach the server list anymore :( |
| 20:21.12 | your_dog | got it :) |
| 20:21.12 | michaelh | Is there a good channel to ask about laptops? |
| 20:21.12 | your_dog | don't know, sorry |
| 20:21.12 | michaelh | but you should ! |
| 20:21.12 | michaelh | :) |
| 20:21.22 | your_dog | artoo.net just crashed too :( |
| 20:21.24 | your_dog | hehe |
| 20:21.53 | your_dog | now it's back |
| 20:26.10 | Grumbler | well i did see spoog------pants playing on artoo last night, but artoo was real buggy last night.............fyi s------pants did not look like he was cheating |
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| 20:29.15 | Nidhoggr | someone is on secretplace as spngbob now. |
| 20:29.22 | Nidhoggr | but it's not larry |
| 20:29.42 | Nidhoggr | and it's more like spongebob, instead of mr silly |
| 20:29.56 | bryjen | bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 20:29.59 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 20:30.03 | michaelh | It's probably getting harder to cheat :) |
| 20:30.21 | Nidhoggr | somehow we need to get word to server owners that new code will crash without kick reason. :) |
| 20:31.06 | shkoo | well, they should be on bzflag-commits. :) |
| 20:31.09 | Nidhoggr | brygen, I updated ~secretplace and ~dragon to work proplery now. |
| 20:31.14 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 20:31.26 | Nidhoggr | ~dragon |
| 20:32.48 | Nidhoggr | I want to put up a new server box. :( I need to save up or something. |
| 20:32.56 | Nidhoggr | make a server dedicated to bzflag stuff. :) |
| 20:34.00 | shkoo | i need to get me a new server too and colo it at ll. |
| 20:34.13 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 20:36.01 | larsl | Observer messages really need to be in some other color. |
| 20:36.33 | larsl | White messages are very hard to see among all the other white text. |
| 20:36.56 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 20:37.15 | Nidhoggr | and the black observer color is hard to see on the score sometimes |
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| 20:38.01 | your_dog | bye all :) |
| 20:41.39 | bryjen | it would be nice to be able to turn off/on messages by category. the score boards a problem 'cause the background color (the sky) changes |
| 20:42.28 | larsl | bryjen: I'm working on something like that for bzadmin. |
| 20:42.33 | Nidhoggr | nod |
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| 20:42.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 20:44.16 | Oman | hey Pat |
| 20:44.27 | Oman | I got the bzmissiles working |
| 20:44.37 | Oman | a while ago |
| 20:45.41 | Oman | you can download them here http://pws.chartermi.net/~ffemtdd/ |
| 20:47.19 | Patlabor221 | fun |
| 20:47.26 | Patlabor221 | how go the tank models? |
| 20:47.45 | Oman | it got confusing |
| 20:47.56 | Oman | my dad tryied what he did and it didn't work |
| 20:48.04 | Patlabor221 | what did he do? |
| 20:48.30 | Patlabor221 | so is your guided missile mod just the GM Model Pathc? or did you make any more changes? |
| 20:48.31 | Oman | Well I don't understand it he is not home he is on a fire run |
| 20:48.46 | Oman | Just the GM model patch |
| 20:48.54 | Oman | but it has a exe in it and stuff |
| 20:48.58 | Patlabor221 | then you can't really call it "yours" then can you |
| 20:49.17 | Patlabor221 | and you have to post the source |
| 20:50.13 | Oman | Well it isn't really mine it is just on my site you can dowload it thats all |
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| 20:50.29 | Oman | I did the changes by hand |
| 20:50.38 | Oman | well me and my dad did |
| 20:52.34 | Patlabor221 | still it's good form to mention where the code came from and that you built the binary |
| 20:52.39 | Patlabor221 | and you have to post the sources |
| 20:52.45 | Patlabor221 | that's part of the GPL |
| 20:52.50 | Patlabor221 | people may want to build it for linux |
| 20:53.23 | Oman | ok |
| 20:53.25 | Oman | i will |
| 20:53.38 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 20:53.45 | Patlabor221 | what version is it based on? g2? |
| 20:53.58 | Oman | yes |
| 20:56.43 | Patlabor221 | a number of people will like an updated GM model for G2 |
| 20:56.43 | Oman | yup |
| 20:56.43 | Patlabor221 | tho 1.10.x would have been cooler :) |
| 20:56.43 | Oman | Well it dosen't have rgb files in 1.10.x anymore though does it |
| 20:56.43 | Patlabor221 | yeah but thats just a format conversion |
| 20:56.44 | Oman | Yup |
| 20:56.44 | Patlabor221 | open in gimp and save as png |
| 20:56.44 | Oman | I know |
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| 20:56.44 | Oman | Hey barrel |
| 20:56.44 | Death_Barrel | hey dude |
| 20:56.44 | Death_Barrel | hey check out our new HoW template |
| 20:57.00 | Death_Barrel | http://www.kelsoes.com/how/finalhowtempsound.swf |
| 20:57.06 | Death_Barrel | tell me what you think |
| 20:57.17 | Death_Barrel | it will take a min to cache into your browser |
| 20:57.28 | Oman | ok |
| 20:57.46 | Oman | http://pws.chartermi.net/~ffemtdd/ try this Barrel |
| 20:58.03 | Oman | Just started it |
| 21:00.11 | Oman | cool! |
| 21:00.27 | Death_Barrel | did you hear the music? |
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| 21:00.36 | Death_Barrel | did you hear the music? |
| 21:00.54 | Oman | yes |
| 21:00.55 | Oman | i did |
| 21:01.03 | Oman | i listing to it now |
| 21:01.18 | Death_Barrel | hehe |
| 21:01.25 | Oman | Good job |
| 21:01.28 | Death_Barrel | it needs to be fixed cause i have it faded in |
| 21:01.31 | Death_Barrel | i need to disable it |
| 21:01.37 | Death_Barrel | working on it now |
| 21:01.40 | Oman | Ok |
| 21:01.57 | Death_Barrel | hey: what does your GM missile mod do? |
| 21:02.49 | Oman | 3d missiles |
| 21:02.53 | Oman | for g2 |
| 21:03.02 | Death_Barrel | ah |
| 21:03.05 | Oman | lol |
| 21:03.08 | Oman | hehe |
| 21:03.08 | Death_Barrel | makes them look better? |
| 21:03.11 | Oman | yes |
| 21:03.14 | Death_Barrel | ah cool |
| 21:03.14 | Oman | a lot better |
| 21:03.41 | Death_Barrel | did you make that death trailer .jpeg? |
| 21:05.06 | Oman | yes |
| 21:05.07 | Oman | i did |
| 21:05.09 | Nidhoggr | how are private messages handled in the server/clients? |
| 21:05.58 | larsl | Nidhoggr: Sent to the server and sent back to the client. |
| 21:06.15 | larsl | Only to the client that the message is for. |
| 21:06.38 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 21:06.41 | Tupone | and the sender |
| 21:07.01 | Nidhoggr | had a wierd thing were someone repeated something I said in PM. was eerie, but gotta be coincidence. |
| 21:07.26 | larsl | In 1.7 it was sent to all clients. |
| 21:08.39 | Nidhoggr | nod |
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| 21:25.03 | Chikorita | hi all |
| 21:25.09 | Chikorita | any Quol admins here? |
| 21:25.13 | Chikorita | ~quol |
| 21:26.06 | Chikorita | therz a cheater named no_one .. he can go thru an shoot thru buildings |
| 21:28.03 | Chikorita | o wel |
| 21:28.13 | Chikorita | gtg bye |
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| 21:31.52 | RuFiToS | hi |
| 21:32.06 | RuFiToS | any admins here for quol server? |
| 21:32.21 | RuFiToS | theres a cheater there |
| 21:32.44 | Noodleman | kill the cheater! |
| 21:32.52 | Noodleman | roast him over hot coals! |
| 21:33.04 | Noodleman | stuff bread up his rectum! |
| 21:33.13 | Noodleman | slice him and baste him! |
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| 21:35.55 | Patlabor221 | oman is that exe you posted a debug version? |
| 21:36.01 | Patlabor221 | it seems rather large |
| 21:37.32 | Oman | it isn't a debug version |
| 21:37.42 | Oman | i did it by hand in the sorce |
| 21:38.20 | ninjer_proton | Patlabor221: i don't think he understands |
| 21:38.32 | Patlabor221 | but when you built it was it set to debug or release? |
| 21:38.45 | Patlabor221 | there are 2 modes you can build in |
| 21:38.57 | Patlabor221 | it looks like you built debug |
| 21:39.14 | Patlabor221 | if you did, the exe won't work for people who don't have Visual C++ installed |
| 21:39.27 | Oman | hmm.. let me check |
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| 21:39.43 | Patlabor221 | cus g2 was not a 2 meg EXE |
| 21:39.54 | Patlabor221 | and the model patch would not have added that much binary |
| 21:40.18 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:40.26 | Patlabor221 | the standard G2 client was about 900k |
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| 21:41.32 | Oman | Well it doesn't look like i did |
| 21:41.44 | Oman | Did you try it |
| 21:41.49 | Patlabor221 | then why is it 2megs? |
| 21:41.52 | Patlabor221 | not yet |
| 21:41.56 | Patlabor221 | I have VC installed |
| 21:42.16 | Patlabor221 | but I don't have a g2 install |
| 21:42.36 | Patlabor221 | when you post the source I can do a release build and see |
| 21:42.42 | ninjer_proton | Patlabor221: isn't there a way on windows to get a list of the things an exe links to? |
| 21:43.05 | Patlabor221 | yeah quickview |
| 21:43.14 | Patlabor221 | it's not installed with XP tho so I don't have it |
| 21:46.08 | Patlabor221 | it has to be debug |
| 21:46.29 | Patlabor221 | or full of some other code |
| 21:46.39 | Oman | Pat do you have visual c++ |
| 21:46.48 | Patlabor221 | yes I do |
| 21:46.52 | Patlabor221 | as I said |
| 21:46.54 | larsl | He has added 1 MB of spyware. =) |
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| 21:47.01 | Patlabor221 | posible but unlikey |
| 21:47.08 | Oman | No i didn't |
| 21:47.10 | Patlabor221 | it' matches the debug size |
| 21:47.15 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure you didn't |
| 21:47.25 | Oman | Why would i do that |
| 21:47.28 | Oman | i am only 10 |
| 21:47.32 | larsl | Just kidding. |
| 21:47.37 | Oman | and my b-day is this month |
| 21:47.43 | larsl | Hence the =) |
| 21:47.53 | Patlabor221 | the reasons why humans do things is the most puzling questions of them all |
| 21:48.01 | Patlabor221 | but I'm sure you didn't |
| 21:48.20 | Patlabor221 | if you send me the source I can do a full release install for you |
| 21:48.28 | Patlabor221 | and package up the source like we normaly do |
| 21:48.39 | Patlabor221 | then people could jus install it as normal |
| 21:48.51 | Patlabor221 | and not have to merge it into an existing install |
| 21:49.21 | Patlabor221 | even put your name in the start menu :) |
| 21:49.42 | Patlabor221 | cal it 1.7g2GM |
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| 21:52.20 | Oman | why |
| 21:52.24 | Oman | No reason |
| 21:52.29 | Oman | i don't care |
| 21:52.34 | Patlabor221 | well with a debug noone can run it |
| 21:52.50 | Patlabor221 | you do want people to use it right? |
| 21:52.54 | Oman | I mean with my name in the start menu |
| 21:53.07 | Patlabor221 | ohh, just so they know who did the update to g2 |
| 21:53.13 | Patlabor221 | you did the work, get some cred :) |
| 21:53.17 | Oman | lol |
| 21:53.44 | Patlabor221 | and so they know witch mod it is |
| 21:53.50 | Patlabor221 | there are a lot of mods out there |
| 21:53.56 | Patlabor221 | so puting a name in it helps |
| 21:55.09 | Oman | ok |
| 21:55.49 | Patlabor221 | just a sugestion, I think making it a full install is usualy easyer for people |
| 21:55.59 | Patlabor221 | you of course can do what you wish |
| 21:57.28 | Oman | I am working on it |
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| 21:58.11 | Oman | oops |
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| 22:07.14 | Oman | Pat where do we put our name in at? |
| 22:08.08 | Oman | we figured out how to do a release build |
| 22:08.12 | Oman | lol |
| 22:09.29 | Patlabor221 | well you would do it in the installer |
| 22:09.35 | Patlabor221 | are you going to release an installer? |
| 22:09.42 | Patlabor221 | or just your exe and datafiles? |
| 22:09.51 | Patlabor221 | and the source of course |
| 22:09.55 | Oman | just exe and datafiles |
| 22:10.06 | Patlabor221 | then you can't do the name thing |
| 22:10.13 | Patlabor221 | cus your using an existing install |
| 22:10.25 | Oman | how do make a installer |
| 22:10.27 | Oman | ?? |
| 22:10.36 | Patlabor221 | get NSIS and run the script |
| 22:10.49 | Patlabor221 | but then you distro the engire game |
| 22:10.53 | Patlabor221 | not just your data files |
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| 22:11.26 | Patlabor221 | http://nsis.sourceforge.net/site/index.php |
| 22:11.29 | Patlabor221 | get the 1.98 release |
| 22:11.40 | Patlabor221 | do a full release build of BZflag, and bzfs |
| 22:12.25 | Patlabor221 | then edit bzflag\package\win32\nsis\BZFlag.nsi to include your new data files |
| 22:12.32 | Oman | we downloaded 2.0 |
| 22:12.33 | Oman | oops |
| 22:12.41 | Patlabor221 | and edit in your name into the shortucuts |
| 22:12.42 | Oman | so we need 1.98 right |
| 22:12.46 | Patlabor221 | then right click and build it |
| 22:12.47 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:12.52 | Patlabor221 | I can help you if you want |
| 22:13.29 | Patlabor221 | then zip up a clean set of source dirs with no debug or release object files, and post it all |
| 22:14.05 | CIA-1 | 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Fixing team count wrong (hope to) |
| 22:14.14 | Patlabor221 | your dad get back from the fire? |
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| 22:15.30 | Oman | Yes |
| 22:15.32 | Oman | he did |
| 22:15.34 | Oman | been back |
| 22:15.48 | Oman | he helping |
| 22:16.03 | Oman | the new bzflag.exe is 1,028 kb now |
| 22:16.27 | Patlabor221 | thats about right |
| 22:17.16 | Oman | going to try to make a installer |
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| 22:21.51 | CIA-1 | 03atupone * 10bzflag/BUGS: list server being outdated on massive client enters |
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| 22:29.25 | Oman | I need help PAT!!! |
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| 22:34.12 | Nidhoggr | anyone else get times when you'll get put on a server as observer, even after choosing a different team? |
| 22:36.29 | Patlabor221 | sorry oman, I was working |
| 22:36.31 | Patlabor221 | what is up |
| 22:38.44 | Oman | I cannot host the sorce forever i am uploading it now |
| 22:38.55 | Oman | source |
| 22:39.18 | Patlabor221 | you have to host the source as long as you host a binary, dems the rules |
| 22:40.06 | Oman | i need to have more space to do that but it will cost me money |
| 22:40.58 | Oman | i need some other site to host my stuff or none of my stuff can be used |
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| 22:41.00 | Patlabor221 | well then you need to take that into account when you are thinking of hosting a binary |
| 22:41.20 | Patlabor221 | the GPL means you have to make source avalable when you make binarys avalalble |
| 22:41.32 | shkoo | nid: isn't that supposed to be automatic when the game is full or something? |
| 22:41.34 | Oman | i know |
| 22:41.49 | Patlabor221 | source should be less then 3 megs |
| 22:41.54 | Patlabor221 | that's not much space |
| 22:42.13 | Oman | I don't have that much space and i have other files |
| 22:42.39 | Patlabor221 | well you can just host the source |
| 22:42.42 | Patlabor221 | and no binary |
| 22:42.53 | Oman | i only have 12 meg left and i can only host 50 meg |
| 22:42.54 | Patlabor221 | or ask somone to host the files for you |
| 22:43.06 | Oman | It is posted on the web site now |
| 22:43.07 | Patlabor221 | souce + installer should be only about 5 megs |
| 22:43.40 | Oman | it isn't only that on my web site |
| 22:43.59 | Oman | Do i need just the src file or the whole bzflag file |
| 22:44.11 | Oman | bzflag source file |
| 22:44.46 | Patlabor221 | you need to distribute all the items that are in the source package you started with |
| 22:45.10 | Patlabor221 | if your hard up for 5 megs, I can host the files for you man |
| 22:45.17 | Patlabor221 | what is your URL again? |
| 22:45.21 | Oman | we downloaded 1.7g2 source code and modded it |
| 22:45.35 | Patlabor221 | then you release all those thigns you downloaded and your mods |
| 22:45.41 | Oman | http://pws.chartermi.net/~ffemtdd |
| 22:45.44 | Patlabor221 | well my mods that you applied |
| 22:45.55 | Patlabor221 | the link 404s |
| 22:46.09 | Nidhoggr | could be, shoo. |
| 22:46.10 | Nidhoggr | shkoo |
| 22:46.13 | Oman | not on mine |
| 22:46.21 | Oman | right click on it and open url |
| 22:46.29 | Patlabor221 | does on mine |
| 22:46.34 | Patlabor221 | I know how to use a browser |
| 22:46.37 | ninjer_proton | whee |
| 22:46.39 | ninjer_proton | i love fixing engrish |
| 22:46.41 | Oman | lol |
| 22:46.45 | Patlabor221 | you forgot a slash in the URL |
| 22:46.46 | larsl | Since the 1.7g2 code is available elsewhere it's probably enough to publish a patch. |
| 22:46.54 | Patlabor221 | http://pws.chartermi.net~ffemtdd/bzflag17g2missile.zip |
| 22:46.57 | Patlabor221 | should be |
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| 22:47.02 | Patlabor221 | http://pws.chartermi.net/~ffemtdd/bzflag17g2missile.zip |
| 22:47.09 | Oman | thats it |
| 22:47.34 | Patlabor221 | tho it still 404s |
| 22:47.39 | Patlabor221 | Sorry, an Internal Error occurred. |
| 22:47.39 | Patlabor221 | file is not found |
| 22:48.16 | Oman | hmm one minute |
| 22:48.22 | Oman | were cheacking on it |
| 22:48.36 | Oman | my dad messed up one minute |
| 22:49.24 | Oman | sry uploaded wrong file |
| 22:49.35 | Patlabor221 | you allso need to put the licesne and the about and authors files in with the binary |
| 22:49.51 | Patlabor221 | like the readme |
| 22:49.53 | Patlabor221 | and all that |
| 22:50.08 | Oman | it is already there |
| 22:50.23 | Patlabor221 | no your zip with the exe just has the exe and the data |
| 22:50.23 | Nidhoggr | everyone got booted from dragon.org. I need to update that code. |
| 22:50.26 | Patlabor221 | that is the binary |
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| 22:51.23 | dabomb | hello. why does that do? |
| 22:51.45 | dabomb | not why, just what :) |
| 22:53.23 | dabomb | o my i have some network problems i think - i see no answer ;) |
| 22:53.33 | Oman | lol |
| 22:53.41 | Oman | I have no clue Dabomb |
| 22:53.45 | dabomb | o |
| 22:53.59 | dabomb | but u put it on ur site, didnt u? |
| 22:54.15 | Oman | put what |
| 22:54.26 | Oman | i don't know what your talking about |
| 22:54.27 | Patlabor221 | oman you should probably put a description of what the files do |
| 22:54.31 | Patlabor221 | on your site |
| 22:55.41 | dabomb | that file. sorry i didnt mention that my question concerned it |
| 22:55.41 | Patlabor221 | he updated the GM model patch for g2 |
| 22:55.41 | Oman | PAT MY SPACE IS ALMOST GONE |
| 22:55.41 | Oman | omg |
| 22:55.41 | Patlabor221 | THEN I CAN HOST THE FILES FOR YOU |
| 22:55.41 | Patlabor221 | AND TEXT DOSN"T TAKE MUCH |
| 22:55.41 | Oman | I KNOW THAT |
| 22:55.41 | dabomb | guys, dont yell so much :) |
| 22:55.41 | Patlabor221 | why are you shouting? |
| 22:55.41 | Oman | but i don't want to wast any more |
| 22:55.41 | Oman | I not i am typeing in caps thats all |
| 22:55.42 | Patlabor221 | then perhaps hosting a mod is not the best thing for you to do. |
| 22:56.03 | Patlabor221 | how large is your source zip? |
| 22:56.14 | Oman | let me cheack |
| 22:56.51 | Oman | it is 30 meg |
| 22:56.57 | Oman | 13 meg |
| 22:56.58 | dabomb | o |
| 22:57.00 | dabomb | o |
| 22:57.00 | Patlabor221 | what the hell did you zip up |
| 22:57.06 | Patlabor221 | that's way too large |
| 22:57.15 | Patlabor221 | you need to remove the debug and release folders |
| 22:57.17 | Patlabor221 | and the binarys |
| 22:57.18 | dabomb | he included some bonus pack :) |
| 22:57.23 | Patlabor221 | then it gets a lot smaller |
| 22:57.24 | Patlabor221 | 3 megs |
| 22:57.30 | dabomb | some pics and stuff u know ;) |
| 22:57.49 | Oman | it is all of the bz17g2 source from source forge |
| 22:57.59 | Patlabor221 | yes, but is it the same folder you built from? |
| 22:58.04 | Patlabor221 | VC makes temp files |
| 22:58.09 | Patlabor221 | and puts the binarys in there |
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| 22:58.14 | Patlabor221 | you don't need all that |
| 22:58.20 | Oman | we built from win 32 folder |
| 22:58.21 | your_dog | yes i do :) |
| 22:58.21 | Patlabor221 | remove the folders VC made |
| 22:58.28 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:58.29 | Oman | useing workspace |
| 22:58.32 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 22:58.36 | Patlabor221 | but it makes temps |
| 22:58.58 | Patlabor221 | remove the any folders named debug and release |
| 22:59.04 | Patlabor221 | remove any files called EXE |
| 22:59.14 | Patlabor221 | and any thing that says PDB or OBJ |
| 22:59.25 | Patlabor221 | you want a clean source folder |
| 22:59.30 | Patlabor221 | not one that has your build in it |
| 22:59.37 | Patlabor221 | lots of stuff you don't need |
| 22:59.40 | Patlabor221 | saves much space |
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| 23:00.10 | Jaguar503n | anyone want to match the annihilation team? |
| 23:00.21 | Oman | i do but i am busy |
| 23:00.35 | Jaguar503n | we want to match |
| 23:00.36 | Patlabor221 | a clean zip of g2 is 2.88 megs |
| 23:00.40 | dabomb | ask DB, he would be on, no doubt |
| 23:00.51 | Patlabor221 | with the mods it should not be more then 3 megs |
| 23:00.52 | Jaguar503n | i know |
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| 23:01.09 | Jaguar503n | db, want to match? |
| 23:01.36 | Oman | remove from win32 folder? |
| 23:01.37 | Jaguar503n | Death Barrel |
| 23:01.41 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 23:01.47 | Patlabor221 | remove any debug or relese folders |
| 23:01.49 | Patlabor221 | where ever they are |
| 23:01.57 | Patlabor221 | some will be in the W32 filder |
| 23:02.02 | Oman | they are only in win32 folder |
| 23:02.04 | Patlabor221 | some will be in the /src folder |
| 23:02.08 | Patlabor221 | no look deeper |
| 23:02.16 | Oman | there isn't |
| 23:02.23 | Patlabor221 | look in /src/bzflag |
| 23:02.34 | Patlabor221 | or do a search |
| 23:02.37 | Oman | WORKING on it |
| 23:03.27 | Patlabor221 | I have to go home now, but if you want mail me src zip at jeffm@gibbscam.com and I can make an installer and host the files for you. |
| 23:04.16 | Patlabor221 | after you clean out all the object files and the binarys |
| 23:04.34 | dabomb | gut nite |
| 23:04.52 | Death_Barrel | srry back |
| 23:05.23 | Oman | Pat there is something called a attachment limit |
| 23:05.35 | Death_Barrel | oops |
| 23:05.42 | Death_Barrel | did not notice jaguar :( |
| 23:05.43 | Patlabor221 | how large is the zip now? |
| 23:05.45 | Death_Barrel | shoot!! |
| 23:05.55 | Death_Barrel | hey pat |
| 23:05.56 | Oman | working pat |
| 23:06.01 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 23:06.06 | Death_Barrel | pat want to check out my new template? |
| 23:06.12 | Patlabor221 | I did |
| 23:06.21 | Patlabor221 | had to load IE tho |
| 23:06.31 | Patlabor221 | it's not the most platform indpenednet site |
| 23:06.35 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 23:06.37 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 23:06.40 | Death_Barrel | not finished |
| 23:06.45 | Death_Barrel | did you view it all? |
| 23:06.48 | Patlabor221 | seems overkill and overy bloddy |
| 23:06.54 | Patlabor221 | and is that your music? |
| 23:06.59 | Death_Barrel | no |
| 23:07.08 | Patlabor221 | ahh, where did ya get it? |
| 23:07.13 | Death_Barrel | why? you like? |
| 23:07.21 | Patlabor221 | not really, curiosity |
| 23:07.46 | Death_Barrel | bought it |
| 23:07.49 | Oman | lol |
| 23:08.04 | Patlabor221 | lot of clicks just to get to the main page |
| 23:08.07 | Death_Barrel | over bloody is what i was aiming for ;) |
| 23:08.10 | Patlabor221 | it's interesting the first time |
| 23:08.14 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 23:08.16 | Patlabor221 | but when you just want to get the data |
| 23:08.20 | Death_Barrel | well, i just did a big update |
| 23:08.26 | Death_Barrel | will upload it tonight |
| 23:08.26 | Oman | good |
| 23:08.27 | Patlabor221 | you have copywright on it? |
| 23:08.33 | Death_Barrel | it now has a skip intro button |
| 23:08.47 | Death_Barrel | pat: no copywright |
| 23:08.47 | Patlabor221 | also the menu seems bussted |
| 23:08.54 | Death_Barrel | not finished |
| 23:08.58 | Death_Barrel | but fixed now :) |
| 23:08.58 | Patlabor221 | then how are you going to use the music? you have a license? |
| 23:09.01 | Oman | i am never going to skip that intro like it to much |
| 23:09.04 | Death_Barrel | yes |
| 23:09.07 | Death_Barrel | license |
| 23:09.15 | Death_Barrel | but i probabally won't use it |
| 23:09.18 | Patlabor221 | honestly I find the music distracting, I mean it's just a website |
| 23:09.26 | Death_Barrel | that is what is making it so damn big |
| 23:09.31 | ninjer_proton | very few websites need music |
| 23:09.40 | Death_Barrel | i agree |
| 23:09.43 | Oman | nabster does |
| 23:09.48 | Oman | napster does |
| 23:09.51 | Patlabor221 | it also seems that you could do it not as just an entire flash thing, but a site with flash parts |
| 23:09.51 | Death_Barrel | but it is badass the first goo through |
| 23:09.59 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 23:10.00 | Death_Barrel | i will |
| 23:10.09 | Patlabor221 | that site is not gonna work on many systems |
| 23:10.13 | Patlabor221 | most of its static |
| 23:10.14 | Death_Barrel | cause i have to implement the original php into the new template |
| 23:10.29 | Patlabor221 | or put the new flash into the old php |
| 23:10.36 | Death_Barrel | nah |
| 23:10.37 | Patlabor221 | that is probably a better way |
| 23:10.41 | Death_Barrel | i am starting from scratch |
| 23:11.03 | Patlabor221 | well still just doing your entire site as a swf is a metancne knightmare |
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| 23:11.06 | Patlabor221 | well still just doing your entire site as a swf is a metancne knightmare |
| 23:11.07 | Death_Barrel | a bit of both i guess |
| 23:11.25 | Death_Barrel | i am not going to |
| 23:11.25 | Patlabor221 | that's how it seems to be now |
| 23:11.25 | Death_Barrel | i will eventually convert it to html |
| 23:11.27 | Death_Barrel | or php |
| 23:11.42 | Death_Barrel | i just made this yestarday |
| 23:11.43 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 23:11.45 | Death_Barrel | give me time |
| 23:11.49 | Patlabor221 | the curve at the top is nice |
| 23:11.56 | Patlabor221 | it's a good start |
| 23:12.06 | Patlabor221 | don't know how well text is gonna show on the flame |
| 23:12.18 | Death_Barrel | yeah, i am nowhere near finished....that is why i call it the team template |
| 23:12.36 | Patlabor221 | well template is normaly used to describe a layout that you put data inot |
| 23:12.38 | Death_Barrel | great it looks fine on the flame |
| 23:12.39 | Patlabor221 | your is just a WIP site |
| 23:12.48 | Death_Barrel | i am looking at the updated version now |
| 23:12.59 | Patlabor221 | ok I go home now |
| 23:13.07 | Death_Barrel | cu |
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| 23:15.42 | Death_Barrel | hi yoyox |
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| 23:16.12 | yoyox | Hej Death_Barrel ) |
| 23:18.17 | Death_Barrel | yoyox: you and quol want a match tonight? |
| 23:18.44 | yoyox | Death_Barrel: Maybe, Quol working.. |
| 23:19.23 | yoyox | brb. |
| 23:20.54 | Death_Barrel | ok |
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| 23:21.09 | Death_Barrel | can you get ahold of quol away from irc? |
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| 23:21.45 | sussudio | hey, dougdork, what is your problem? do you want me to send an abuse email to your isp? |
| 23:22.51 | Death_Barrel | yoyox: can you contact quol away from irc? |
| 23:23.02 | sussudio | dheckaman_: hey moron |
| 23:23.20 | Death_Barrel | you sound mad |
| 23:23.31 | sussudio | Jan 8 22:47:09 router kernel: Packet log: input REJECT ppp0 PROTO=1 64.44.153.2 |
| 23:23.31 | sussudio | :8 81.71.19.192:0 L=84 S=0x00 I=0 F=0x4000 T=47 (#3) |
| 23:23.31 | sussudio | Jan 8 22:50:55 router last message repeated 266 times |
| 23:23.31 | sussudio | Jan 8 22:50:56 router last message repeated 65 times |
| 23:23.41 | Death_Barrel | what happened? |
| 23:23.52 | sussudio | the little idiot thinks he can pingflood me off the net |
| 23:24.06 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 23:24.07 | Death_Barrel | wow |
| 23:24.15 | yoyox | Death_Barrel: ICQ, MSN, Jabber only. Irc Quol is dead -> |
| 23:24.25 | Death_Barrel | yeah i see that :( |
| 23:24.33 | Death_Barrel | i will be home in 1-1.5 hrs |
| 23:24.42 | Death_Barrel | we can look for quol then :) |
| 23:24.45 | Death_Barrel | cu yoyox |
| 23:24.51 | yoyox | Cu Death_Barrel. |
| 23:24.52 | Nidhoggr | it crashed with a reasonless /kick |
| 23:24.52 | Death_Barrel | cu sussudio |
| 23:24.57 | Death_Barrel | cu nid |
| 23:25.17 | Nidhoggr | later mr barrel |
| 23:25.22 | sussudio | dheckaman_: you can expect a complain to your ISP. |
| 23:25.22 | Death_Barrel | :D |
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| 23:39.00 | Patlabor221 | cap is there anyway to throtle your scp to here? |
| 23:39.33 | ninjer_proton | Patlabor221: sure, what should i restrict it to? |
| 23:40.33 | Patlabor221 | can you just leave me like 32-64k |
| 23:40.42 | Patlabor221 | it's my upstream so I don't need much |
| 23:40.47 | Patlabor221 | just enough to send requests |
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| 23:41.15 | Patlabor221 | I have 256 up, you can have 75% of it |
| 23:41.17 | ninjer_proton | if its still too much just give me a holler |
| 23:41.31 | ninjer_proton | its not urgent, i've got plenty of other stuff to do :) |
| 23:41.34 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 23:41.37 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 23:41.44 | Oman | pat you home yet? |
| 23:41.45 | Oman | lol |
| 23:41.49 | Patlabor221 | yes I am |
| 23:41.51 | Oman | o |
| 23:41.53 | Oman | ok |
| 23:42.43 | Patlabor221 | you get that zip file trimed down? |
| 23:43.01 | Oman | My parents are busy with other stuff |
| 23:43.02 | ninjer_proton | like fixing all the freakin' engrish in these whr imports :) |
| 23:43.11 | Patlabor221 | heh, how bad is it? |
| 23:43.40 | ninjer_proton | not terrible, but enough that there are 3-4 spots per episode that i really have to think about |
| 23:43.47 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 23:44.04 | Oman | it is 5928 kb now |
| 23:44.10 | Patlabor221 | still seems big |
| 23:44.14 | ninjer_proton | the painting girl one was kind of tricky, but it helped that i'd seen the american release |
| 23:44.14 | Patlabor221 | did you remove the .exe files? |
| 23:44.23 | ninjer_proton | "the atmosphere's out" --> "you really captured the feel of it" |
| 23:44.33 | Patlabor221 | ohh my |
| 23:44.35 | Oman | yeah |
| 23:44.44 | Oman | but only one of em |
| 23:44.49 | Patlabor221 | remove all |
| 23:44.49 | Oman | still working on it |
| 23:44.55 | Patlabor221 | should be about 3 megs |
| 23:44.59 | Oman | only found one |
| 23:45.05 | Oman | We are working on it still ok |
| 23:45.30 | Patlabor221 | it's very well writen |
| 23:45.34 | Oman | should i get rid of the new exe |
| 23:45.34 | Patlabor221 | okeydokey oman |
| 23:45.54 | Oman | okeydokeysmokey |
| 23:47.17 | Patlabor221 | wow they are closing all the WOTC stores |
| 23:48.05 | Oman | okeydokeyhokeypokeysmokey |
| 23:48.24 | ninjer_proton | Patlabor221: heh |
| 23:48.28 | Oman | lol |
| 23:48.43 | Patlabor221 | it'll be funny to see how they end that |
| 23:49.13 | ninjer_proton | uhhuh |
| 23:49.56 | ninjer_proton | however |
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| 23:50.04 | ninjer_proton | no self-respecting engineer would drink starbucks chai |
| 23:50.05 | ninjer_proton | blech |
| 23:50.47 | CIA-1 | 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: my tank score was not ordered on rabbit |
| 23:50.59 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 23:51.05 | Patlabor221 | well it is fiction :) |
| 23:51.18 | Oman | Pat beat okeydokeyhokeypokeysmokey |
| 23:52.59 | Oman | okeydokeyhokeypokeyjokeysmokey |
| 23:53.24 | Patlabor221 | umm you can stop anytime now |
| 23:53.41 | Oman | try to beat it pat i dare you |
| 23:53.48 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 23:53.53 | Oman | it is fun |
| 23:54.17 | Patlabor221 | not really, Prince of Persia is fun |
| 23:54.34 | Oman | I think Prince of Persia sucks |
| 23:54.41 | Patlabor221 | really |
| 23:54.55 | Patlabor221 | what platform did you play it on? |
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| 23:55.17 | Oman | I never played it just a review i looked at |
| 23:55.17 | Grumbler | no dragon :( |
| 23:55.21 | Patlabor221 | then how can you say it sucks |
| 23:55.39 | Oman | i seen it on xplay |
| 23:55.39 | Patlabor221 | ninjer_proton: the new one has unlockable POP1 and POP2 on the disks :) |
| 23:55.48 | ninjer_proton | Patlabor221: =D |
| 23:55.48 | Patlabor221 | xplay? what is that? |
| 23:55.58 | Oman | it is a tv show |
| 23:56.09 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 23:56.11 | Oman | it is on tech tv |
| 23:56.24 | Patlabor221 | and they didn't like the most criticaly aclaimed game of 2003? |
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| 23:56.41 | Oman | they liked it i didn't |
| 23:56.53 | Patlabor221 | and you base this all on what? |
| 23:57.04 | Oman | their showing of the game |
| 23:57.17 | Patlabor221 | ahh I see |
| 23:57.25 | Patlabor221 | so one bad set of movies and you say it sucks |
| 23:57.36 | Oman | Dad my sister and me play URU |
| 23:57.43 | Oman | lol |
| 23:58.04 | Patlabor221 | well URU sucks |
| 23:58.31 | Patlabor221 | tho it looks purdy |
| 23:58.37 | Oman | URU is really hard |
| 23:58.41 | Oman | i got far |
| 23:58.43 | Patlabor221 | there is just only soo much myst that a man can take |