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| 00:03.27 | Spiff | Hello peoples. |
| 00:03.31 | *** join/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 00:09.21 | Spiff | Same ol' dead IRC. Yep.. definitely. |
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| 00:22.12 | Spiff | Well... as much as I've enjoyed this terribly eventful visit (*sarcasm*), I have to get going. C-ya. |
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| 00:24.10 | TimRiker | congratulations all! we got up to 81 players on 1.10 ;-) |
| 00:24.47 | TimRiker | http://list.bzflag.org/bzflag.html |
| 00:24.54 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 00:25.09 | TimRiker | and still 63 on the old version. cool. |
| 00:27.25 | TimRiker | http://list.bzflag.org/xmission5154.html hmm. max players set to 16 but 18 reported. that doesn't look right to me. |
| 00:27.57 | fhffhqvb | probably people stuck who can't respawn or something. |
| 00:28.01 | TimRiker | er 12 max but larger reported.. reading the wrong numbers. |
| 00:28.09 | stibnite | did you notice how hashmark was reporting 255 players for blue, when maxplayers was set to 0 blues? |
| 00:29.02 | fhffhqvb | yeah hashmark has issues. see also http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/server_error.png |
| 00:30.36 | TimRiker | wild. |
| 00:30.45 | stibnite | yeah, weird |
| 00:30.48 | TimRiker | yeah. more bugs. ;-) |
| 00:31.22 | stibnite | i switched from specifying individual teams to just a single argument to maxplayers, which works around the problem |
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| 00:31.58 | stibnite | wb |
| 00:32.14 | fhffhqvb | stupid isp :-P |
| 00:32.56 | stibnite | oh my |
| 00:34.12 | fhffhqvb | using vpn so they can get cheaper software was a stupid idea in the first place... |
| 00:34.37 | fhffhqvb | not using enough vpn servers so they get bogged down and it start kicking people was the result |
| 00:37.07 | TimRiker | report the bugs on SF or in BUGS. I gotta run. cool to see so many players. |
| 00:37.42 | fhffhqvb | it would be easier to debug bugs if the portinfo and userid stuff was still in the scorelist in debug mode :-| |
| 00:48.40 | fhffhqvb | ok i lost both keyboard cursor control and mouse control on xmission now... i can still jump though. it must be something with the keybinding |
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| 00:51.14 | fhffhqvb | meh. |
| 00:51.21 | fhffhqvb | autopilot was dead too |
| 00:56.40 | shkoo | it might be neat to have multiple rabbits for big games |
| 00:56.59 | fhffhqvb | bunnyfest |
| 00:57.07 | fhffhqvb | maybe some pigs too |
| 00:58.29 | fhffhqvb | or some quarter-sized blue tanks as smurfs |
| 01:05.56 | orchid | i'd like to see the bunny be able to have the small jump ability all the time + whatever super flag he/she might pick up, as it is now, a bunny has a very short lifespan |
| 01:07.05 | fhffhqvb | i'd like to see the bunny drop small pellets like real bunnies do except these are time-delayed bullet mine things like in Patlabor221's bzflagx |
| 01:07.20 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 01:07.31 | Patlabor221 | those are odd, cus they are easy to dodge |
| 01:07.38 | Patlabor221 | they need AOE |
| 01:07.45 | Patlabor221 | or to be a lot smaller |
| 01:07.50 | Patlabor221 | so you can't see them |
| 01:08.05 | fhffhqvb | maybe there could be 2 bunnies and they could spawn little bunny tanks that jump around real fast |
| 01:09.18 | fhffhqvb | you could also put an easter egg in bzflag that would turn the bunnies into brown colored turkeys with clucking sounds on thanksgiving and christmas |
| 01:09.57 | Patlabor221 | disco mode |
| 01:10.01 | fhffhqvb | and change the firing noise to shotguns |
| 01:10.14 | Patlabor221 | the term is "blunderbus" |
| 01:11.06 | fhffhqvb | =:-B |
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| 02:13.42 | Sasami | captain_proton &| scanline around? |
| 02:14.22 | scanline | I'm here, don't think captain_proton's back yet |
| 02:14.55 | Sasami | I found a PCI GF4 MX, do you guys need agp? |
| 02:14.59 | Sasami | cus I can keep looking |
| 02:15.08 | Sasami | there are more cards to look thru |
| 02:15.08 | scanline | AGP would be better |
| 02:15.11 | Sasami | k |
| 02:15.16 | Sasami | I will look more tomorow |
| 02:15.21 | Sasami | I know I saw a radeon in there |
| 02:15.38 | scanline | well, I think captain_proton and I are both a bit bitter about ATI |
| 02:15.44 | Sasami | and I |
| 02:15.53 | Sasami | There may be a GF4TI |
| 02:15.55 | Sasami | I shall see |
| 02:15.59 | scanline | cool |
| 02:15.59 | scanline | thanks |
| 02:16.16 | Sasami | or a FX5200 |
| 02:16.33 | Sasami | and I know there is a GF3 SOMEWHER |
| 02:16.42 | Sasami | used to be in ryoko |
| 02:16.52 | Sasami | what is in wasabi now? |
| 02:17.06 | scanline | GF3MX with some problems |
| 02:17.11 | Sasami | 2MX |
| 02:17.15 | Sasami | they never made a 3 |
| 02:17.17 | scanline | er |
| 02:17.19 | scanline | just GF3 |
| 02:17.22 | Sasami | ahh |
| 02:17.25 | Sasami | cap's old one? |
| 02:17.29 | scanline | no, my old one |
| 02:17.32 | Sasami | ahh |
| 02:17.58 | scanline | but yeah.. it has had its fan replaced with an old pentium socket 7 fan, and it seems to have problems with YUV overlays |
| 02:17.59 | Sasami | I'll probably be geting a FX5700 soon |
| 02:18.05 | Sasami | ohh my |
| 02:18.09 | Sasami | frankencard |
| 02:18.13 | scanline | yup |
| 02:19.11 | Sasami | ~nslookup bakadigital.com |
| 02:19.16 | Sasami | damn |
| 02:19.54 | Sasami | baka expired on the 5th |
| 02:20.08 | Sasami | the mail they sent me was lost in the IT guy fiasco |
| 02:20.26 | Sasami | they reverted the nameservers to point back to the registrar |
| 02:20.40 | Sasami | so I must wait for it to change yet again |
| 02:20.42 | scanline | d'oh |
| 02:20.53 | Sasami | all for $17 |
| 02:21.14 | Sasami | even had to call them |
| 02:21.47 | Sasami | well now to get some debian building action :) |
| 02:27.38 | Noodleman | is there any criteria for sorting the server list other that number of players? |
| 02:27.56 | Noodleman | in other words, how does it sort the servers where there's no players? |
| 02:27.59 | Sasami | fish |
| 02:29.26 | Noodleman | are you saying that you hire fish to do the sorting, or that i should fish for the answer? :-) |
| 02:30.03 | Sasami | no |
| 02:30.12 | Sasami | it's sorted based on fish |
| 02:30.21 | Sasami | fish factor |
| 02:30.36 | Noodleman | the ones that are pulled out of the list first? |
| 02:30.53 | Sasami | no, I'm being silly :( |
| 02:31.04 | Sasami | I don't know how it's done |
| 02:31.14 | Sasami | and I don't know php or perl to know |
| 02:33.50 | Noodleman | it looks like it's the client that sorts it, not the list server |
| 02:34.04 | Sasami | hmm wonder what I am missing |
| 02:34.22 | Sasami | un defined refrence to "XOpenDevice" |
| 02:34.46 | Sasami | libX or something like that? |
| 02:35.00 | scanline | X11 |
| 02:36.17 | Sasami | wonder what debian package I am missing |
| 02:36.23 | Sasami | a lot of them say X11 in them |
| 02:36.44 | scanline | probably need a -devel package for X |
| 02:37.08 | Sasami | that's what I'm looking thru apt-cache for now |
| 02:37.19 | Noodleman | apt-cache pkgnames | egrep -i 'lib.*x.*dev' |
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| 02:37.53 | Noodleman | i wonder if there is anyone that actually uses dselect |
| 02:38.05 | Noodleman | or knows how to effectively, for that matter |
| 02:38.05 | Sasami | wow |
| 02:38.10 | scanline | Noodleman: the people that don't know any better and the very brave :) |
| 02:38.10 | orchid | Noodleman: i tried to |
| 02:38.10 | Sasami | that actualy worked |
| 02:38.12 | Sasami | she is here |
| 02:38.20 | Noodleman | haha |
| 02:38.50 | Noodleman | i've tried, but i always fall back to apt-cache pkgnames |
| 02:41.13 | orchid | xlibs-dev xlibmesa3 xlibmesa-glu-dev got those? |
| 02:41.21 | orchid | opps, wrong window |
| 02:42.47 | orchid | also libglut3-dev |
| 02:43.00 | Sasami | ok |
| 02:43.33 | Sasami | it's doing it's thing |
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| 02:43.59 | Sasami | hmm I get this |
| 02:44.02 | Sasami | : undefined reference to `XF86VidModeGetModeLine' |
| 02:44.02 | Sasami | ../platform/libPlatform.a(XWindow.o)(.text+0x1e06): In function `XWindow::initJoystick(char*)': |
| 02:55.55 | Sasami | hmm anyone know how to make bz build sans joystick support? |
| 02:56.24 | Sasami | ohh nevermind |
| 02:56.28 | Sasami | display can't find it too |
| 02:56.28 | orchid | i dont know why that fails on your system |
| 02:56.46 | Sasami | it looks like it's cus it can't find the display headers |
| 03:02.14 | Carnage | the 10.0 version is messed up it wont let me spawn |
| 03:02.31 | Sasami | is the map coverd in a pyramid? |
| 03:02.54 | Carnage | the are some pyramids |
| 03:03.03 | Sasami | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.03 | Carnage | there* |
| 03:03.06 | Sasami | line one big one? |
| 03:03.06 | Carnage | nno |
| 03:03.18 | Sasami | odd then the server should work |
| 03:03.19 | Carnage | no im on ducati |
| 03:03.49 | Carnage | i was just playing i have a score of 93 and it wont let me spawn back in |
| 03:04.04 | Sasami | double odd |
| 03:04.15 | Carnage | happend before to |
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| 03:06.28 | Carnage | another player is having the same problem |
| 03:06.40 | Sasami | smells like bug |
| 03:07.23 | Sasami | report the bug on SF, and chestal can check his logs around that time and see what is up |
| 03:08.48 | Carnage | k |
| 03:10.35 | Sasami | ~nslookup bakadigital.com |
| 03:10.42 | Sasami | grrr |
| 03:11.45 | fhffhqvb | aarh. |
| 03:12.21 | Sasami | well bz builds |
| 03:12.28 | Sasami | now time for the 'other' |
| 03:12.37 | Carnage | did it again :( |
| 03:12.53 | Sasami | this is on the rabit server? |
| 03:13.02 | Carnage | yes |
| 03:13.09 | Sasami | worked for me for a bit |
| 03:14.11 | Sasami | lets see if this works a second time |
| 03:16.20 | fhffhqvb | i lost control of my cursor/mouse movement earlier on xmission too. |
| 03:16.55 | Sasami | well things like that can be expected in beta versions |
| 03:17.12 | fhffhqvb | it doesn't say beta anywhere :-| |
| 03:17.19 | Sasami | nope it dosn't |
| 03:17.50 | fhffhqvb | i had similar problems with 1.8 btw |
| 03:17.52 | Sasami | trial by segfault seems to be the modus operandi here |
| 03:18.05 | Sasami | 1,10 has the input manager from 1.8 |
| 03:18.15 | fhffhqvb | ~spank input manager |
| 03:18.18 | | ACTION bends input manager over his knee and tattoos 'ibot' in his pasty white buttocks |
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| 03:30.01 | bryjen | ~rot13 fhffhqvb |
| 03:30.01 | | sussudio |
| 03:30.54 | fhffhqvb | ~rot13 bryjen |
| 03:30.54 | | oelwra |
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| 03:40.21 | brlcad | wee hee.. almost time to see "the movie" |
| 03:41.02 | fhffhqvb | brlcad: gollum falls into the volcano with the ring. |
| 03:43.43 | bryjen | may i suggest a non-caffeinated beverage whilest you wait |
| 03:44.39 | bryjen | ping Sasami. Ask brlcad, he's a unixish fellow |
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| 03:56.21 | brlcad | unixish.. mmm.. |
| 03:56.36 | brlcad | fhffhqvb: some of us read books too |
| 03:56.52 | fhffhqvb | brlcad: you'll hate it then |
| 03:57.17 | brlcad | i doubt that |
| 03:57.33 | brlcad | I've loved the first two installments |
| 03:57.38 | brlcad | very much |
| 03:57.47 | brlcad | even with many surprises |
| 03:57.58 | fhffhqvb | all the hobbits have been replaced by ewoks. |
| 03:58.07 | brlcad | well of course! |
| 03:58.21 | brlcad | wasn't that in the book? |
| 03:58.30 | fhffhqvb | nope |
| 03:58.46 | brlcad | well.. time to gather up the possy |
| 03:58.54 | brlcad | cheers! |
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| 03:59.05 | fhffhqvb | you're not going dressed as gandalf, are you? |
| 03:59.07 | fhffhqvb | ohwell |
| 04:05.19 | Sasami | yes I shall ask them all |
| 04:05.22 | Sasami | learner you alive? |
| 04:05.47 | Sasami | ahh he is going to see the same movie |
| 04:06.02 | Sasami | tho a number of hours earlyer then I |
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| 04:38.44 | fiberchunks_ | patlabor, you around? |
| 04:39.13 | fiberchunks_ | oh, sasami, you around? |
| 05:24.25 | CIA-2 | 03davidtrowbridge * 12CVSROOT/ (ciabot.pl): capitalize project name |
| 05:37.19 | Sasami | I am |
| 05:37.35 | Pimpinella | u r? |
| 05:37.56 | Sasami | maybe |
| 05:38.05 | Pimpinella | fine |
| 05:38.12 | Sasami | will there be pie? |
| 05:38.23 | Pimpinella | 42 |
| 05:38.34 | Sasami | that is a lot of pie |
| 05:38.46 | Pimpinella | :) |
| 05:59.11 | captain_proton | have fun |
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| 14:18.23 | drinian | TimRiker: The list server is working great! |
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| 14:43.27 | Quol | are the user and group files the same between 1.7 and 1.10? |
| 14:43.32 | Quol | bzfs I mean |
| 14:49.16 | bryjen | Quol: yes, same format |
| 14:51.48 | Quol | thanks bryjen |
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| 15:03.05 | TimRiker | are there really over 100 players on 1.10 now? |
| 15:04.01 | Quol | The number of servers is growing, and there are people on them - I would say so... |
| 15:04.29 | Quol | TimRiker: where did you get the count? the list server counting different hits (based on IP)? |
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| 15:10.43 | Noodleman | i'm sure everyone is aware of this, but weird things are happening like HIPHOP.informatik.uni-erlangen.de:5154 saying that there is 93 players when there's only 13 |
| 15:12.13 | Quol | i saw that also... |
| 15:14.13 | Chestal | that's probably due to the rabbit hunt team count bug which is fixed |
| 15:17.33 | bryjen | hashmark has been displaying abnormal purple player counts like 255/4 |
| 15:21.05 | Chestal | don't know the reason for this, sound like it subtracted from 0 downwards |
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| 15:48.23 | fhffhqvb | i think i know why people are having spawning problems |
| 15:50.52 | bryjen | ...and... ? |
| 15:52.08 | fhffhqvb | Rusty Cage: was destroyed by ElectricElf's guided missile |
| 15:52.08 | fhffhqvb | Rusty Cage: message: Got shot by teammate ElectricElf, you are not my teammate |
| 15:52.09 | fhffhqvb | the playerID's seem to be messed up on the server side. |
| 15:52.27 | fhffhqvb | didn't you have this problem before with 1.9 at some stage? |
| 15:53.43 | fhffhqvb | rusty cage was purple, electricelf was blue. |
| 15:54.40 | bryjen | Hmm. that may just be the logic that determines if a kill was a teamkill. There are/were some issues with that and rabbit chase, as becoming the rabbit is switching teams |
| 15:55.44 | bryjen | evoke( Chestal ) |
| 15:57.26 | bryjen | I was seeing those messages on xmission (server says you were killed by teammate foo when foo is not on your team) |
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| 15:58.55 | bryjen | Sometimes it'd be fine, but once it started calling teamkills, it seems like just about anyone who shot me was now my "teammate" :) |
| 15:59.52 | fhffhqvb | hmm it doesn't put my server in the list at all |
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| 16:00.45 | bryjen | is TimRiker currently fiddling with the list server? |
| 16:01.04 | Manu_1 | there is a problem not solver with bzfs |
| 16:01.08 | Manu_1 | nsolved |
| 16:05.28 | CIA-1 | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzflsMy.php): ws |
| 16:05.39 | fhffhqvb | ws? |
| 16:05.47 | TimRiker | whitespace |
| 16:05.54 | Tupone | white space |
| 16:05.58 | TimRiker | bryjen: yes. why? |
| 16:06.51 | bryjen | ( see fhffhqvb 's comment ) |
| 16:07.05 | fhffhqvb | i'm not aware of being routed through a transparent proxy. how do i even detect that? |
| 16:07.17 | TimRiker | list server is not involved in anything dealing with game play. |
| 16:07.50 | Manu_1 | yesterday learner and me was working in transparent-proxies problem.. but the problem is not that |
| 16:07.51 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.03 | TimRiker | fhffhqvb: telnet to db.bzflag.org and do a "GET /db/ HTTP/1.0\n\n" then read the headers. |
| 16:08.56 | fhffhqvb | HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request |
| 16:08.57 | fhffhqvb | meh? |
| 16:09.05 | fhffhqvb | with or without the ""'s? |
| 16:09.14 | bryjen | no quotes |
| 16:09.22 | fhffhqvb | ok i did it without quotes |
| 16:09.31 | bryjen | and the \n\n means press enter twice |
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| 16:11.17 | fhffhqvb | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/telnetdb.txt |
| 16:12.12 | TimRiker | fhffhqvb: the \n means hit return. so don't type the \n, but hit return twice. |
| 16:12.22 | fhffhqvb | :-P |
| 16:14.10 | TimRiker | fhffhqvb: I don't see any other proxy headers in there though. so looks like you are not behind one or it does not advertise itself. |
| 16:14.25 | fhffhqvb | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/db.log |
| 16:18.28 | bryjen | thats what you get if you leave off the /db/. No proxy headers there either. |
| 16:20.53 | fhffhqvb | i didn't leave off the /db/ |
| 16:20.55 | TimRiker | yep no proxy in sight. |
| 16:21.13 | TimRiker | so what's the issue? still no list in the game? |
| 16:21.46 | fhffhqvb | nope. i see two connections from the listserver closing though. |
| 16:22.28 | fhffhqvb | Dec 17 17:18:38 port 1757 connection closed from 24.1.99.18 (24.1.99.18:80->81.71.28.88:1757) |
| 16:22.28 | fhffhqvb | Dec 17 17:19:25 port 1758 connection closed from 24.1.99.18 (24.1.99.18:80->81.71.28.88:1758) |
| 16:23.54 | Tupone | did you get a network analyzer working? |
| 16:24.01 | *** join/#bzflag KTL (~KTL@kn-res.kuleuven.net) |
| 16:24.09 | fhffhqvb | what? |
| 16:24.15 | KTL | bunnieeeees!! |
| 16:24.21 | Tupone | like tcpdump? |
| 16:24.26 | Tupone | or ethereal |
| 16:24.31 | fhffhqvb | what for? |
| 16:24.38 | fhffhqvb | this works fine with an 1.7 serve.r |
| 16:24.46 | Manu_1 | Hi KTL! |
| 16:24.51 | KTL | hi manu:-) |
| 16:24.54 | Tupone | to see the request that are going out & in |
| 16:25.20 | Tupone | I suspect we need a shutdown on the socket |
| 16:25.26 | KTL | what if the burrow could dive? |
| 16:26.35 | fhffhqvb | forget ethereal. |
| 16:31.40 | KTL | what if burrow could dive? |
| 16:32.10 | Tupone | wym |
| 16:32.12 | KTL | the tab is useless at the moment with burrow, can be used for that |
| 16:32.50 | KTL | suggestion: if the bu dives he becomes invisible, he too can 'tsee the players anymore |
| 16:33.17 | KTL | if 2 dived bu's bang into eachother accidentely they are sr'd, |
| 16:33.19 | KR | better they would still show on radar, you coulkd sw=quish them when they came back up |
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| 16:33.26 | KTL | sw idd |
| 16:33.30 | fhffhqvc | i hate my isp. |
| 16:33.41 | KR | they're piiiigs ;) |
| 16:33.41 | Tupone | IMHO not now, could go on 1.12. write on sf enhancement |
| 16:34.03 | KTL | euhm a lot of good players don't like bu because it slows down their play |
| 16:34.09 | KTL | nah |
| 16:34.12 | KTL | ah mm |
| 16:34.16 | fhffhqvb | btw i'm not going through a proxy, but my connection goes through a VPN tunnel to the ISP... shouldn't matter really |
| 16:34.20 | KTL | some other thingie |
| 16:34.28 | KTL | the hiphopserver from kill -9 |
| 16:34.34 | KTL | it's rabbit style |
| 16:35.05 | KTL | and really, if i shoot somebody who isn't the rabbit, i don't wan't to loose flag/life/point |
| 16:35.20 | KTL | for me the hunters shouldn't be in a real team |
| 16:35.55 | KTL | if they shoot each other then it will not affect their score |
| 16:36.03 | Tupone | suggestion is to paint them as a true team (Blue, or Red, or whatever) |
| 16:36.34 | KTL | the problem is that there is no way to shoot the one you wan't to shoot without being a tk |
| 16:36.40 | stibnite | that's a good point ktl |
| 16:36.42 | stibnite | after all, |
| 16:36.52 | stibnite | nobody ever dies in a hunting accident |
| 16:36.56 | stibnite | i think they call it a do-over |
| 16:37.06 | KTL | stibnite: i've an updated hashmarkmap for you, made the pyrs drive and shootthough again |
| 16:37.46 | stibnite | neato! |
| 16:37.52 | KTL | :-) |
| 16:38.00 | stibnite | mail it to me? nate@aau.cx |
| 16:38.30 | KTL | i put it on the web, directly, if i can |
| 16:38.42 | stibnite | ok, good deal |
| 16:38.50 | KTL | ????? the server where it is on seems to be down, must search on my own system |
| 16:40.59 | KTL | users.pandora.be/dpf/hashmarknewversion |
| 16:42.17 | fhffhqvb | kankerisp |
| 16:42.26 | KTL | stibnite : hereeeee |
| 16:42.45 | stibnite | got it. :) |
| 16:44.16 | KTL | that tk'ing at rabbithunt is really irritating, if i'm attacked bye somebody willing to be kicked, i want to be able to defend myself, to crush his canon in the walls |
| 16:44.42 | KTL | s/bye/by/ |
| 16:44.51 | Manu_1 | rabbit mode is good for servers with few players |
| 16:44.57 | stibnite | works great, thx KTL |
| 16:45.02 | KTL | :-) |
| 16:45.42 | KTL | euhm rabbit hunt works on the bigger ones too, it get's very messy, which can be funny, suppose a sw becoms rabbit in the middle of an army |
| 16:46.24 | fhffhqvb | yesterday a rabbit got geno and killed 9 at once. that was stupid. |
| 16:46.46 | KTL | yes, i got that too :-) then the suddenly server msg: "the rabbit has won!" :-) |
| 16:46.50 | KTL | lololololol |
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| 16:48.49 | bryjen | ph33r the small woodland creatures with powerful weapons! ;) |
| 16:49.39 | KTL | mmm let them play on the hashmark, i crush them:-) |
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| 17:01.20 | TimRiker | 143 active 1.10 players at present? is that real? |
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| 17:02.37 | Chestal | TimRiker: at leastone server has a hugely inflated player count because of the already fixed rabbit team size bug |
| 17:02.41 | *** join/#bzflag fhffhqvb (fhff@c5147206a.cable.wanadoo.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
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| 17:02.41 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *!*@*.dip.t-dialin.net *!*edelstei*@* *!*@68.111.116.228] by calvino.freenode.net |
| 17:02.41 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *cell*!*@* *sussudio*!*@* *gorb*!*@*] by calvino.freenode.net |
| 17:03.18 | TimRiker | ah. that makes sense. |
| 17:03.35 | TimRiker | anything I could look for and discard on the list server? |
| 17:03.49 | TimRiker | > 40 members of a team or similar? |
| 17:04.07 | Chestal | it's the hiphop server |
| 17:04.24 | Chestal | it has 111 rogues :-) |
| 17:04.50 | Chestal | a faked high player count seems a good way to attract players, though. about 10 of them are for real |
| 17:04.58 | Chestal | 12 I think |
| 17:07.16 | fhffhqvb | err. |
| 17:07.54 | fhffhqvb | TimRiker: did you just reset xmission or something? |
| 17:18.52 | TimRiker | no. did it restart? |
| 17:18.58 | fhffhqvb | "Server forced a disconnect" |
| 17:19.06 | fhffhqvb | *shrug* |
| 17:19.20 | TimRiker | oh. I think it's still restarting on code changes. ;-) I should kill that but have not gotten to it. |
| 17:19.26 | TimRiker | ~reload |
| 17:19.26 | | reloading... |
| 17:19.26 | | reloaded: |
| 17:19.29 | fhffhqvb | k |
| 17:19.30 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 17:19.38 | TimRiker | ~bzflist17 |
| 17:19.56 | TimRiker | hum |
| 17:21.11 | TimRiker | ~reload |
| 17:21.11 | | reloading... |
| 17:21.12 | | reloaded: CommandStubs.pl |
| 17:21.14 | TimRiker | ahh. |
| 17:21.15 | bryjen | doesnt look like hiphop has a set max player count (default is 200 ?!?), so you can't check against that.... |
| 17:21.16 | TimRiker | ~bzflist17 |
| 17:21.46 | TimRiker | list query for 1.10 is not in ibot. server queries not there yet. |
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| 17:27.04 | Nidhoggr | hrm server bug. everyone got booted for "server error when adding a new player" |
| 17:29.40 | *** part/#bzflag Manu_1 (~Manu_1@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:29.43 | TimRiker | ~nslookup HIPHOP.informatik.uni-erlangen.de |
| 17:30.55 | ElectricElf | TimRiker: Ping. |
| 17:31.17 | ElectricElf | TimRiker: See query-window or msg-window or whatnot :) |
| 17:31.54 | fhffhqvb | ok my crackfiend isp is going to disconnect me again in the next minute or so. |
| 17:32.11 | Nidhoggr | Player [15] has joined from 217.69.121.2:39980 on -1 |
| 17:32.22 | Nidhoggr | looks like it went past 20 to -1 |
| 17:32.25 | fhffhqvb | -1? |
| 17:32.33 | Nidhoggr | then everyone got booted. |
| 17:32.59 | dheckaman_ | Wasabi Pop Tarts! Write Kellogs today! |
| 17:33.00 | dheckaman_ | :) |
| 17:33.04 | dheckaman_ | hey Nidhoggr |
| 17:33.41 | Nidhoggr | hi doug |
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| 17:44.34 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery xmission.bzflag.org:5155 |
| 17:44.40 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 17:48.00 | mmu_man | http://sourceforge.net/top/mostactive.php?type=week |
| 17:48.03 | mmu_man | wow ! |
| 17:48.06 | mmu_man | 3rd rank ! |
| 17:48.09 | mmu_man | congrats :) |
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| 18:03.18 | learner | hi tupone |
| 18:03.25 | Tupone | hi learner |
| 18:03.38 | Tupone | eating? |
| 18:03.45 | learner | sleeping |
| 18:04.00 | learner | :) |
| 18:04.09 | Tupone | I found it! |
| 18:04.27 | learner | did i lose something? |
| 18:04.39 | learner | ah, hehe |
| 18:04.54 | bryjen | the lab called. your brain is ready. |
| 18:05.29 | Nidhoggr | what version we up to now? |
| 18:06.12 | bryjen | 1.10.1 "Duct Tape and Crazy Glue" :) |
| 18:06.22 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:06.24 | Nidhoggr | when is 1.10.2? |
| 18:06.42 | learner | when all the critical bugs are fixed |
| 18:07.04 | Nidhoggr | cool. |
| 18:07.56 | Nidhoggr | I'm updating to newest cvs now. |
| 18:08.15 | Nidhoggr | hopefully I'll have less woes. :) |
| 18:08.24 | Nidhoggr | burrow in a corner causes person to be kicked for out of bounds. |
| 18:15.16 | dheckaman_ | lol |
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| 18:17.31 | *** join/#bzflag sn0w_m0nkey (~sn0w_m0nk@photon.health.unm.edu) |
| 18:17.45 | Chikorita | hi sm |
| 18:17.50 | sn0w_m0nkey | mornin |
| 18:17.51 | Chikorita | wut happend? |
| 18:17.59 | Chikorita | ndid da server go down? |
| 18:18.10 | sn0w_m0nkey | not sure |
| 18:18.14 | sn0w_m0nkey | it died :) |
| 18:18.20 | Chikorita | i couldnt get back in ...an every1 went nr |
| 18:18.22 | Chikorita | heh |
| 18:18.33 | Chikorita | ran outta rabbits i gues ;) |
| 18:18.37 | sn0w_m0nkey | hehe |
| 18:18.48 | sn0w_m0nkey | white monkey |
| 18:18.51 | Chikorita | sooooooooooooo |
| 18:18.53 | Chikorita | lol |
| 18:19.13 | Chikorita | itz kinda cute wen da rabbit has da jump flag |
| 18:19.19 | Chikorita | or da tiny flag |
| 18:19.23 | sn0w_m0nkey | i like that flag |
| 18:19.41 | Chikorita | i think whoeva iz da rabbit should alwayz have da jump or tiny flag |
| 18:19.46 | sn0w_m0nkey | heh |
| 18:19.52 | Chikorita | itz only fitting 4 a rabbit |
| 18:20.04 | Chikorita | actual;ly i kinda wish da rabbit had ST |
| 18:20.21 | Chikorita | so it would b more like a hunt |
| 18:20.27 | sn0w_m0nkey | great setup that game |
| 18:20.34 | learner | i wanted that too chika :) |
| 18:20.39 | Chikorita | an da rogues would hafta work together , instaed of against |
| 18:20.49 | Chikorita | hi L :) |
| 18:20.55 | sn0w_m0nkey | hi learneder |
| 18:21.09 | learner | always high-speed, tiny, jump, and maybe wide angle vision :) |
| 18:21.16 | KTL | i just got an extreme lag and i high score in a rabbit game, result: an army tries to catch me and they can't because of the lags (+2secs) |
| 18:21.18 | learner | helllooo ;) |
| 18:21.24 | KTL | totally blocking the game |
| 18:21.27 | KTL | nhelooooo |
| 18:21.44 | Chikorita | i also think da rabbit hunters should all b 1 color ...like red or green |
| 18:21.57 | Chikorita | cuz theres too much TKIng goin on |
| 18:22.00 | bryjen | foxes are red |
| 18:22.07 | bryjen | or gray |
| 18:22.17 | Chikorita | yea |
| 18:22.42 | KTL | i think the rabbit hunters should be no real team, they should be able to shoot each other without problems but without influence for their score too |
| 18:22.59 | sn0w_m0nkey | white_tank_of_death |
| 18:23.05 | sn0w_m0nkey | my new name |
| 18:23.10 | Chikorita | lol |
| 18:23.11 | sn0w_m0nkey | :) |
| 18:23.14 | KTL | nmaybe the existing team system, with teams and rogues, AND a individual the rabbit |
| 18:23.18 | Chikorita | i seen dat name b4 |
| 18:23.22 | Chikorita | was dat u sm? |
| 18:23.25 | KTL | ok, 'll remember that |
| 18:23.26 | Chikorita | heh |
| 18:23.27 | sn0w_m0nkey | hehe |
| 18:23.27 | bryjen | maybe florescent safety orange like a hunters jacket |
| 18:23.40 | sn0w_m0nkey | bryjen that was a fun game last night |
| 18:23.48 | sn0w_m0nkey | i missed decks |
| 18:24.03 | Chikorita | 1 shot decks? |
| 18:24.07 | sn0w_m0nkey | yes |
| 18:24.11 | Chikorita | o yea dats fun |
| 18:24.25 | bryjen | do the hunters in rabbitchase still die if the no-death-on-tk option is set on the server? |
| 18:24.27 | sn0w_m0nkey | but they fixed the abililty to shoot off the pyrimads |
| 18:24.30 | Chikorita | u really hafta aimmm on da server heh |
| 18:24.42 | sn0w_m0nkey | so now i can not shoot people way up the decks |
| 18:24.55 | Chikorita | bryjen: i dunt think so |
| 18:24.56 | sn0w_m0nkey | no more vertical ricos |
| 18:24.56 | Nidhoggr | did the code for -fb change? |
| 18:25.01 | JBdiGriz | That's who I was shooting on bryjen's decks yesterday, I was wondering :) |
| 18:25.09 | sn0w_m0nkey | white_tank_of_death |
| 18:25.11 | sn0w_m0nkey | hehehe |
| 18:25.27 | Nidhoggr | I'm not getting flags that spawn on higher platforms anymore. |
| 18:25.29 | sn0w_m0nkey | i had to earn my 409 first |
| 18:25.57 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 18:26.14 | Chikorita | ibottttttttt |
| 18:26.17 | sn0w_m0nkey | i think ducati went down |
| 18:26.18 | Chikorita | wake upz |
| 18:26.25 | Chikorita | ibots sleepin in late |
| 18:26.26 | bryjen | ibot: hello? |
| 18:26.28 | | Howdy Bub |
| 18:26.37 | bryjen | ibot: ducati |
| 18:26.52 | Chikorita | hmm .. r all da bzflag.org servers down i wonder? |
| 18:26.59 | bryjen | erg |
| 18:27.03 | sn0w_m0nkey | the server stopped responding for me |
| 18:27.14 | bryjen | ~listkeys bzf |
| 18:27.29 | bryjen | ~listkeys bzfq |
| 18:27.31 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@proxyle01.ext.ti.com) |
| 18:27.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 18:27.37 | Chikorita | hi tim |
| 18:27.42 | sn0w_m0nkey | mornin |
| 18:27.52 | bryjen | ~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 18:28.07 | Chikorita | ~quol |
| 18:28.16 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 18:28.16 | bryjen | ~bzflist17 |
| 18:28.30 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 18:28.50 | sn0w_m0nkey | i can not get bacj into ducati 59155 |
| 18:29.00 | Chikorita | ducatis' listed |
| 18:29.05 | Chikorita | brb |
| 18:30.06 | JBdiGriz | It looks like the server is having some problems making connections |
| 18:30.16 | sn0w_m0nkey | yeah |
| 18:30.44 | sn0w_m0nkey | i saw that hiphop server in germany had about 114 players when ducati went down |
| 18:31.10 | Nidhoggr | ooh. is new bzfquery code in blootie cvs? |
| 18:33.29 | sn0w_m0nkey | ibot blootie |
| 18:33.30 | | sn0w_m0nkey: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 18:34.22 | *** join/#bzflag Manu_1 (~Manu_1@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:35.01 | *** join/#bzflag Chestal (thilo@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) |
| 18:35.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
| 18:35.38 | sn0w_m0nkey | eh chestal |
| 18:36.08 | Chestal | hi |
| 18:36.15 | sn0w_m0nkey | hows it going man? |
| 18:36.27 | sn0w_m0nkey | don't say badly :) |
| 18:36.37 | Chestal | hungry right now |
| 18:36.41 | sn0w_m0nkey | me too |
| 18:36.46 | Chestal | and tired, although I haven't really been doingmuch |
| 18:37.49 | sn0w_m0nkey | your brain must need the food |
| 18:40.01 | Chestal | still have a little work todo for today though |
| 18:48.42 | TimRiker | folks on xmission report that genocide kills can't respawn. perhaps the server does not know they are dead. |
| 18:50.02 | Nidhoggr | new bzfquery in blootbot is not happy. |
| 18:50.24 | TimRiker | the latest php script changes made a big improvement to the thread count on list server. |
| 18:50.53 | Chestal | should work, client is instructed to send Killed-Message when blowup reason is genocide |
| 18:51.09 | bryjen | is it just on genocide? someone was saying they couldn't respawn after having burrow and being run over. maybe the flag is misleading and its a general respawing thing. |
| 18:51.40 | sn0w_m0nkey | i can't respawn occasionally on ducati rabbithunt |
| 18:51.59 | bryjen | http://bzbb.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?t=1262 |
| 18:52.03 | sn0w_m0nkey | havn't noticed a particular flag it happens on |
| 18:53.19 | Chestal | there was a bug when you used self-destruct |
| 18:53.59 | Nidhoggr | help me understand the new speed stuff with theif/V |
| 18:54.09 | TimRiker | Nidhoggr: there is no new bzfquery in blootbot. just a new bzflist |
| 18:54.54 | Nidhoggr | because I am getting a number of people being kicked for too fast with my speedtol set to 1.51. they are getting kicked for speed of 41.something. |
| 18:55.01 | Nidhoggr | ah. thanks tim. |
| 18:56.55 | bryjen | normal speed = 25 . V = +50% = 37.5 . Not sure what thief is. They'd be over V speed then. Sounds a bit fishy |
| 18:58.14 | Nidhoggr | these are admins, etc., getting booted. they defintiely aren't cheating. |
| 19:01.08 | JBdiGriz | Check your network loading. It might be slow updates which are being calculated incorrectly. |
| 19:01.57 | bryjen | looks like thief is +67% = 41.75 |
| 19:03.20 | Nidhoggr | that would explain it. |
| 19:03.32 | Nidhoggr | sighs |
| 19:03.43 | bryjen | only if the tolerance isn't working |
| 19:03.43 | Nidhoggr | speedtol needs to be set to bigger then. |
| 19:04.03 | Nidhoggr | there has been a bug with that for a while. |
| 19:04.12 | Nidhoggr | that's why -speedtol was put in. |
| 19:04.32 | bryjen | with 1.5 tolerance a thief should get up to 62.something. |
| 19:04.49 | Nidhoggr | speedtol is tolerance off of base |
| 19:04.57 | bryjen | unless they're getting kicked right after dropping the flag |
| 19:05.00 | Nidhoggr | not off of the +67% |
| 19:05.15 | brailsmt | i noticed yesterday that i could not respawn after getting hit by genocide, or getting crushed with burrow... |
| 19:05.25 | bryjen | Nidhoggr: no, it takes the current flag into account |
| 19:05.49 | Nidhoggr | I think it's after dropping. |
| 19:05.50 | bryjen | there's a glitch if you've just dropped the flag |
| 19:06.54 | Nidhoggr | so the only way to do it is set -speedtol to +67% of the base. |
| 19:07.16 | Nidhoggr | so 167% |
| 19:07.24 | bryjen | I submitted a patch for 1.7 that has it look at the player's flag history and take the _previous_ flag into account as well. Needs someone to port it up for the flag changes in 1.10 |
| 19:08.22 | bryjen | or 1.68 to catch any floating-point goofiness |
| 19:08.34 | Nidhoggr | yeah. that's why 1.51 ;) |
| 19:08.44 | bryjen | yup :) |
| 19:11.39 | Nidhoggr | I need to go to movie theater soon and pick up tickets for LOTR for 8:15 tonight. |
| 19:16.30 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (~Chikumz33@205.197.171.40) |
| 19:16.50 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 19:17.04 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 19:17.26 | Chikorita | itz a strange BZ day |
| 19:18.43 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 19:21.34 | KR | chik was that u that asked me to come to duc yesterday? |
| 19:22.33 | KR | sry if it was - I dont have 1.7 on this machine, a new Linux install overwrote my MBR on the lappy with some new, non-working info, and then I booted win98 on it |
| 19:22.35 | KR | blech |
| 19:22.45 | KR | and bzflag wouldn't run there... |
| 19:22.52 | KR | so sorry I missed you |
| 19:25.03 | Chikorita | o okies np KR |
| 19:25.19 | Chikorita | da cheater left by da time i came back anywayz |
| 19:25.42 | Chikorita | TimRiker: hello? |
| 19:25.45 | KR | ok :) |
| 19:26.15 | Chikorita | tim did u do a reset on ur xmission 1.10 server , like an hour ago? |
| 19:26.19 | Chikorita | j/w |
| 19:27.19 | Chikorita | sounds kinda messy KR |
| 19:27.34 | *** join/#bzflag Grumbler (~Grumbler@h-68-165-122-98.MCLNVA23.covad.net) |
| 19:27.42 | Chikorita | hi grumbla |
| 19:27.46 | bryjen | xmission resets itself. i think tim's got it set up so it rebuild with the latest code everytime one of the developers checks in changes |
| 19:27.50 | Grumbler | hey chick |
| 19:28.07 | Chikorita | bryjen: o i c |
| 19:28.42 | Chikorita | my teamie had GM an was doin good wen da server reset ...he was alil upset |
| 19:28.44 | Chikorita | heh |
| 19:28.46 | TimRiker | bryjen: just fixed that. it should not reset now unless all players leave. |
| 19:28.47 | Grumbler | as long as it rebuilds without those nasty rogues in the mix......... |
| 19:29.17 | TimRiker | Chikorita: about an hour ago, yes. not since then. |
| 19:29.25 | Chikorita | ah okies |
| 19:30.17 | bryjen | TimRiker: are rogues allowed on purpose (in a /team/ gamestyle, hint, hint) ? |
| 19:30.22 | bryjen | :) |
| 19:30.50 | Grumbler | ......yeah, i am getting tired of killing that rogue bryjen all the time :) |
| 19:31.17 | Chikorita | hows ur multi level map comming along Grumbla ....i didnt get a chance to try it out |
| 19:31.17 | bryjen | ~dict rogue |
| 19:31.24 | Grumbler | all he does it steal flags, then send them to the middle of the field by using the pyramid exploit |
| 19:31.37 | Chikorita | heh |
| 19:31.46 | bryjen | ibot: Hello? |
| 19:31.48 | | Howdy Bub |
| 19:31.48 | Chikorita | dang i hate those types of rogues ;) |
| 19:32.00 | Chikorita | <<<good rogue |
| 19:32.02 | Chikorita | O:) |
| 19:32.08 | bryjen | Who? Me? |
| 19:32.11 | Chikorita | i help da smaller teams |
| 19:32.15 | bryjen | 0:) |
| 19:32.30 | Grumbler | Chikorita: its too slow, the large floors for each level kill the fps.......have to wait till graphic updates are made till that style map can be made playable |
| 19:32.39 | Chikorita | <<<da rogue who picks up da flags in da middle an returns dem to their bases |
| 19:32.51 | Chikorita | Grumbler: o i c |
| 19:33.02 | bryjen | Grumbler: please focus your attention on the end of this "pen" ..... |
| 19:33.21 | Chikorita | Grumbler: would it help if u reduce it to 3 levels ? instead of 6? |
| 19:33.51 | Grumbler | no, the problem is with the large expansive floors, it could help if there were more walls, but that leads into more issues |
| 19:34.01 | Chikorita | o |
| 19:34.10 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 19:34.15 | Grumbler | one large floor/ceiling is enough to kill |
| 19:34.24 | Chikorita | o |
| 19:34.31 | Chikorita | dang |
| 19:34.41 | Chikorita | it was a good idea tho |
| 19:34.54 | Chikorita | glad u tried it , now wee kno :) |
| 19:35.00 | Grumbler | if it gets broken up with "closer" walls and such its better, but then the map size gets larger.........and the circle goes round |
| 19:35.13 | Chikorita | i c |
| 19:35.16 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 19:35.29 | Grumbler | one day we will catch the tail of this thing |
| 19:35.48 | Chikorita | how bout ... |
| 19:35.49 | Grumbler | !lart bryjen |
| 19:35.50 | guu | Grumbler: Error: There are currently no available larts. |
| 19:36.02 | Grumbler | NO LARTS!!!!, noooooooooo |
| 19:36.02 | bryjen | hrm |
| 19:36.10 | bryjen | I thought I added some |
| 19:36.10 | Chikorita | 1 big flat pyramid ...as a floor ...wif lil pyramids on it |
| 19:36.18 | *** join/#bzflag yoyox (yoyox@koty.org) |
| 19:36.20 | Chikorita | wil dat work? |
| 19:36.33 | Chikorita | wb yoyox |
| 19:37.04 | Chikorita | i notice on a negative pyramids u can drive ova dem |
| 19:37.14 | Chikorita | i dunno.. |
| 19:37.33 | Tupone | Chikorita, Now you can |
| 19:37.34 | Chikorita | i think wee used up all da larts |
| 19:37.45 | Chikorita | hi tupone |
| 19:37.50 | Tupone | ciao!! |
| 19:37.52 | Chikorita | :) |
| 19:38.22 | bryjen | !fundb add lart slices $who with a free AOL CD |
| 19:38.23 | guu | bryjen: Error: You must be registered to use this command. |
| 19:39.07 | Chikorita | maybee if da levels were further apart , so dat da lighting effects wil not show up on da surface of da upper floor? |
| 19:39.19 | Chikorita | i mean ....wayyy far apart |
| 19:39.24 | Chikorita | nfrom each otha |
| 19:39.36 | bryjen | !fundb add lart slices $who with a free AOL CD |
| 19:39.37 | guu | bryjen: The operation succeeded. (lart #1) |
| 19:39.41 | Chikorita | so u had to use teleporters only to reach da next level |
| 19:39.45 | bryjen | !lart Grumbler |
| 19:39.54 | Chikorita | lol |
| 19:40.58 | Chikorita | i hate my AOL imma get rid of it dis week |
| 19:41.02 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 19:41.09 | Chikorita | ugh |
| 19:41.18 | Chikorita | brb |
| 19:41.42 | Chikorita | woah where did dat come from |
| 19:41.45 | Chikorita | lol |
| 19:41.46 | bryjen | !fundb lart add flings an 8-inch floppy disk at $who |
| 19:41.53 | bryjen | whoops |
| 19:41.59 | bryjen | !fundb add lart flings an 8-inch floppy disk at $who |
| 19:42.00 | guu | bryjen: The operation succeeded. (lart #2) |
| 19:42.07 | bryjen | ibot is slow |
| 19:42.08 | | bryjen: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 19:42.10 | Chikorita | ibot iz hella sloww taday |
| 19:42.12 | | Chikorita: are you using Windows? |
| 19:42.12 | Chikorita | ya |
| 19:42.21 | Chikorita | ya again |
| 19:42.23 | bryjen | !lart ibot |
| 19:42.59 | Chikorita | i betta go ...all dese free CDs flying around itz not safe heh |
| 19:43.23 | Chikorita | those things have ricochet |
| 19:43.27 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 19:43.34 | *** join/#bzflag chatelaine (~aec@208.48.199.202) |
| 19:43.46 | bryjen | !fundb add praise $who is the bestest! |
| 19:43.47 | guu | bryjen: The operation succeeded. (praise #1) |
| 19:44.32 | *** join/#bzflag dave_ (~dave@teppic.demon.co.uk) |
| 19:45.49 | bryjen | !fundb add lart sets phasers to extra-crispy and takes aim at $who |
| 19:45.50 | guu | bryjen: The operation succeeded. (lart #3) |
| 19:46.50 | bryjen | !fundb add praise basks in the radiant goodness of $who |
| 19:46.51 | guu | bryjen: The operation succeeded. (praise #2) |
| 19:47.20 | Grumbler | !lart bryjen |
| 19:56.37 | Grumbler | bakadigital is GONE.......NOOOOOO, how will i find out what happened to the annoying IT guy...........and what about the bz irc stats..................and project24, nooooooooooooooooooo |
| 19:58.25 | bryjen | try again |
| 19:59.10 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.34 | Grumbler | nah, no worky, i only get the domain name registeration......probably still working through the systems or something |
| 20:06.05 | JBdiGriz | works fine for me. |
| 20:06.13 | bryjen | ~dict propogate |
| 20:06.20 | bryjen | ~spell propogate |
| 20:06.22 | | possible spellings for propogate: propagate propagator propagated propagates propionate propitiate prolongate propagative |
| 20:06.38 | bryjen | ~dict propagate |
| 20:07.29 | bryjen | ibot: botsnak |
| 20:07.30 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, bryjen |
| 20:07.33 | bryjen | ibot: botsnack |
| 20:07.33 | | bryjen: :) |
| 20:08.34 | bryjen | ooo |
| 20:09.57 | bryjen | !fundb add lart plugs $who's tank's gun barrel with a LARGE banana |
| 20:09.58 | guu | bryjen: The operation succeeded. (lart #4) |
| 20:18.42 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart shoves an old, wilting, christmas tree up $who's exhaust pipe, causing a rather large, but festive, explosion. |
| 20:18.43 | guu | Grumbler: Error: You must be registered to use this command. |
| 20:19.05 | Grumbler | guu, how do i register |
| 20:19.06 | guu | Grumbler: Error: 'how' is not a valid command. |
| 20:19.37 | bryjen | !help register |
| 20:19.37 | guu | bryjen: (register [--hashed] <name> <password>) -- Registers <name> with the given password <password> and the current hostmask of the person registering. This command (and all other commands that include a password) must be sent to the bot privately, not in a channel. If --hashed is given, the password will be hashed on disk, rather than being stored in plaintext. |
| 20:19.38 | Grumbler | guu you are creating a new clique, eh |
| 20:19.39 | guu | Grumbler: Error: 'you' is not a valid command. |
| 20:20.49 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart shoves an old, wilting, christmas tree up $who's exhaust pipe, causing a rather large, but festive, explosion. |
| 20:21.22 | bryjen | hmm |
| 20:21.28 | bryjen | that should be |
| 20:21.35 | bryjen | !lart 5 Grumbler |
| 20:21.49 | Grumbler | ? |
| 20:21.53 | bryjen | or not |
| 20:21.58 | bryjen | !lart 4 Grumbler |
| 20:21.58 | Grumbler | !lart Grumbler |
| 20:22.10 | bryjen | Auh-Oh |
| 20:22.13 | Grumbler | guu, are you confused |
| 20:22.31 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #5) |
| 20:22.33 | guu | Grumbler: Error: 'are' is not a valid command. |
| 20:22.52 | Grumbler | ok, it was on a break |
| 20:22.55 | bryjen | Oh boy, did you ever get it! :) |
| 20:23.24 | Grumbler | thats ok, at least its not a rogue stealing my team's flag ;) |
| 20:24.41 | bryjen | :P |
| 20:28.47 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart throws Tic-Tacs at who, while humming Barry Manilow's greatest hits. |
| 20:28.48 | guu | Grumbler: Error: There must be a $who in the lart/praise somewhere. |
| 20:28.57 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart throws Tic-Tacs at $who, while humming Barry Manilow's greatest hits. |
| 20:28.57 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #6) |
| 20:29.24 | *** join/#bzflag sbo791 (~cgiirc@66.62.140.111) |
| 20:31.14 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart loads a large bushel of rotten apples into her tank, firing them at $who while releasing several thousand killer bees. |
| 20:31.15 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #7) |
| 20:31.37 | *** join/#bzflag jolly (~k@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 20:32.01 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart whacks $who with a wet noodle |
| 20:32.03 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #8) |
| 20:32.42 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart chops $who into little pieces with a Ronco Bottle Cutter |
| 20:32.43 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #9) |
| 20:33.26 | *** part/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 20:33.32 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart points a menacing finger at $who while humming Helter Skelter |
| 20:33.33 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #10) |
| 20:34.26 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart is a little gasy, but blames $who |
| 20:34.28 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #11) |
| 20:36.13 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart finds an old rusty shopping cart, and begins stealing $who's garbage in an attempt to steal $who's identity |
| 20:36.14 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #12) |
| 20:37.48 | *** join/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 20:37.54 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart takes $who to a linux conference, then tells everyone $who is an SCO board member |
| 20:37.54 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #13) |
| 20:40.27 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart gives $who a Mac G4........with Windows permanently installed! |
| 20:40.28 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #14) |
| 20:41.37 | bryjen | !lart Grumbler |
| 20:42.19 | bryjen | ...how easily one's weapons can turn against one... |
| 20:43.27 | Grumbler | !fundb add lart gives $who a 100k piece puzzle, and tells $who they will get 40M quid if they complete it, knowing that one piece is missing |
| 20:43.28 | guu | Grumbler: The operation succeeded. (lart #15) |
| 20:43.36 | Grumbler | !lart bryjen |
| 20:44.18 | Grumbler | !lart bryjen |
| 20:44.23 | Grumbler | !lart bryjen |
| 20:44.57 | *** join/#bzflag sik (~skammerdi@proxyr.kodak.com) |
| 20:46.10 | bryjen | ~crush Grumbler and guu |
| 20:46.12 | | ACTION crushes Grumbler and guu with a full height scsi disk |
| 20:47.06 | Grumbler | ~hammer bryjen |
| 20:47.41 | Grumbler | !lart bryjen |
| 20:52.38 | Pimpinella | fetchmail |
| 20:53.15 | Grumbler | woof woof |
| 20:54.04 | Pimpinella | hmm, seems it didnt work on this commandline ;) |
| 20:54.17 | TimRiker | ~x |
| 20:54.18 | | extra, extra, read all about it, x is fedora I love fedora! |
| 20:54.24 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 20:54.40 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery xmission.bzflag.org:5154 |
| 20:55.09 | TimRiker | at least he does not hang on new servers now. |
| 20:55.21 | TimRiker | ~forget x |
| 20:55.22 | | TimRiker: i forgot x |
| 21:00.48 | Grumbler | joy is in the small things |
| 21:01.14 | Grumbler | wealth is in the large things |
| 21:01.32 | Grumbler | greed is making the small things look like the large things |
| 21:03.10 | Grumbler | someone checking my identity, i am what i am, nothing more :) |
| 21:03.29 | JBdiGriz | I yam who I yam, and that's all that I yam |
| 21:04.09 | Grumbler | JBdiGriz: your alive!.......or maybe just over worked |
| 21:04.36 | JBdiGriz | Looking for a new contract and cleaning out my office from old papers |
| 21:05.15 | Grumbler | consulting biz, eh |
| 21:06.02 | JBdiGriz | That's what I do, systems programming, networks, embedded systems, unix wizard for hire. |
| 21:06.49 | Grumbler | .......sounds like Lockheed in a nutshell |
| 21:08.07 | *** join/#bzflag fhffhqvb (fhff@c51448ad4.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:08.22 | fhffhqvb | explain to me how someone can lock on to me with the GM if i haven't even spawned yet. |
| 21:09.03 | Grumbler | sounds interesting, more info please......how did it occur exactly |
| 21:09.16 | fhffhqvb | on hashmark. callsign "enforcer". |
| 21:09.35 | Nidhoggr | I bet it's part of the bug I found. |
| 21:09.35 | fhffhqvb | i logged on, hadn't spawned even for the first time and this person was locking onto me. multiple times. |
| 21:09.57 | fhffhqvb | what bug? |
| 21:10.02 | Nidhoggr | it's in the buglist. |
| 21:10.08 | Nidhoggr | I was killed by GM... |
| 21:10.20 | Nidhoggr | then was not spawned, but was still getting lock. |
| 21:10.29 | Nidhoggr | all the way through next spawn. |
| 21:10.37 | fhffhqvb | i can understand residual locks caused by lag, but i hadn't even appeared yet... |
| 21:10.50 | fhffhqvb | how can you lock onto something that isn't there? |
| 21:11.39 | Grumbler | sounds like a bug |
| 21:13.25 | Grumbler | would have to look onto how the "lock" indication is passed between the clients/server |
| 21:13.33 | fhffhqvb | i think it's someone trying out their new cheatclient... |
| 21:13.53 | fhffhqvb | by the arrogant little tone it was probably either Spiff or Knightmare. |
| 21:14.03 | Grumbler | maybe |
| 21:14.28 | Grumbler | all things are possible until proven otherwise, just like all things are false until proven otherwise |
| 21:14.33 | fhffhqvb | i don't see your bug in the list, what's the title? |
| 21:15.07 | Nidhoggr | it's in the BUGS file in CVS |
| 21:15.13 | Nidhoggr | it's not on sourceforge's buglist. |
| 21:15.21 | fhffhqvb | meh. |
| 21:16.19 | fhffhqvb | "- Flaghelp falls into the radar area when radar is 'bigger'" |
| 21:16.29 | fhffhqvb | that's not new, i've been complaining about that for about a year |
| 21:16.37 | brailsmt | you know about the respawn bug at xmission, right? |
| 21:16.48 | fhffhqvb | brailsmt: from experience, yes. |
| 21:17.04 | brailsmt | when killed by geno or run over with burrow, you have to rejoin the game... |
| 21:17.24 | fhffhqvb | nope, it seems to be totally random. |
| 21:17.26 | Grumbler | havent had that happen to me....... |
| 21:17.41 | Grumbler | and i have died multiple times on xmission |
| 21:18.01 | Grumbler | not as often as bryjen though |
| 21:18.14 | fhffhqvb | it happens to me after about 5 or 10 respawns usually |
| 21:18.16 | Grumbler | what clients are you using? |
| 21:18.33 | fhffhqvb | i tried the release and the latest cvs version under windows 2000 |
| 21:18.44 | bryjen | i'd imagine the "lock" is probly passed as a playerid. it should be possible that they were locked onto someone who just left before you joined and you got the same player id |
| 21:19.12 | Grumbler | what is your typical lag? |
| 21:19.26 | fhffhqvb | mine on xmission, about 160ms |
| 21:20.25 | fhffhqvb | usually 5ms variance |
| 21:20.25 | Grumbler | hmm, i am running with xp pro and a lag around 80-100........so there is a possiblity it could be either......need more data I suppose |
| 21:20.54 | fhffhqvb | i have an ati radeon AIW (7200) and an athlon 800 with 1GB of mem. |
| 21:21.54 | Grumbler | i am running here with geforce 5200, xeon 550, 1gb.........probably not a memory or cpu speed issue.....maybe graphical |
| 21:22.41 | fhffhqvb | i have shadows and lighting off, everything else to highest setting, 1024x768x32bits@120Hz |
| 21:22.49 | Grumbler | since some of the graphical stuff is definitely a little more buggy in this version.........especially if you open and close the bzflag window |
| 21:23.10 | fhffhqvb | i can't alt-tab, it puts my client into bad acid trip mode |
| 21:23.18 | Grumbler | ditto here |
| 21:24.04 | Grumbler | lets see i am running with shadows/lighting/texture off.....1024x768x16/32@75Hz |
| 21:24.54 | fhffhqvb | connections go through a debian box with ipmasq, but that's transparent |
| 21:24.59 | Grumbler | i used to be able to run with more on, but this version really bogs the machine down |
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| 21:25.26 | Grumbler | i am running through a generic firewall product... |
| 21:25.41 | Grumbler | netgear/linksys |
| 21:25.57 | fhffhqvb | ew |
| 21:26.05 | Grumbler | haha |
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| 21:26.15 | Grumbler | wonder what brailsmt is running |
| 21:26.21 | Grumbler | since he also has the problem |
| 21:26.25 | Grumbler | he/she |
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| 21:29.48 | o | ~seen carnage |
| 21:29.50 | | carnage <strayer@dyn216-8-133-182.ADSL.mnsi.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 18h 16m 48s ago, saying: 'yes'. |
| 21:30.40 | o | ~seen TC |
| 21:30.40 | | tc <~tc@hoochie.digium.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 21d 1h 11m 41s ago, saying: ''lo all'. |
| 21:31.45 | fhffhqvb | meh. got geno'ed on xmission. stuck now. |
| 21:33.32 | fhffhqvb | hmm bzfquery died at die $! unless $code == 0x6170; for xmission. |
| 21:35.23 | fhffhqvb | ~xmission |
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| 22:04.20 | ohay | can someone tell me what's the minimum bandwidth for a good game on bzflag? |
| 22:04.37 | fhffhqvb | 2-4K upload per user |
| 22:05.00 | ohay | KB or Kb ? |
| 22:05.08 | fhffhqvb | KB |
| 22:05.53 | ohay | so its a full 64 Kbps conection! |
| 22:06.11 | fhffhqvb | 64kbps = 8K |
| 22:06.37 | ohay | ops, you're right sorry |
| 22:07.27 | ohay | but that's when you've got a stable conection and you're close to the server |
| 22:07.27 | fhffhqvb | it's probably less with the 1.10 server, i think they removed some overhead |
| 22:10.14 | ohay | I'm asking cuz I've got a 128 Kbps conection, but even so I usually get some lag problems and the game freezes up and by the time is normal again I've been killed |
| 22:10.36 | fhffhqvb | forget about a server then |
| 22:11.25 | ohay | the problem I think is that there's no server here in south america |
| 22:11.38 | fhffhqvb | *shrug*. |
| 22:12.15 | ohay | anyway, thanks for the help |
| 22:12.22 | fhffhqvb | k. |
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| 22:17.48 | Nidhoggr | does bzflag compile on solaris? :) |
| 22:18.39 | Nidhoggr | I'm getting Scipio an Ultra 5 for Christmas. |
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| 22:34.28 | creeperz | ~botsmack |
| 22:34.29 | | sure, wanna snort some with me? |
| 22:34.44 | Nidhoggr | I also picked up 2 tektronik xterminals for 20 bucks. |
| 22:35.36 | Grumbler | did they come with a prize and chicken nuggets :) |
| 22:36.39 | Nidhoggr | :( |
| 22:36.47 | Nidhoggr | I have to replace my fileserver at home. |
| 22:36.48 | Grumbler | NEED MORE POWER! |
| 22:37.02 | Nidhoggr | it won't power up anymore. |
| 22:37.10 | Nidhoggr | had a power outage. fried stuff. |
| 22:37.31 | Grumbler | no ups, no surge protector? |
| 22:37.55 | Nidhoggr | well, I just bought a UPS... a little late.. but this machine has been trying to die for months. |
| 22:37.58 | Grumbler | you need, MORE POWER |
| 22:38.01 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 22:38.14 | Nidhoggr | my old fileserver is an emachine celeron 333 mhz |
| 22:38.22 | Nidhoggr | new one is an amd 700mhz |
| 22:38.32 | Nidhoggr | big tower. lots of room for drives. |
| 22:38.47 | Grumbler | we have a couple of those suicide machines........they dont seem to like their on-board sound interrupts very much |
| 22:38.54 | JBdiGriz | Noisy, takes up a lot of space at home. |
| 22:39.20 | Nidhoggr | I need to consider a rack or half rack at home. |
| 22:39.38 | JBdiGriz | I looked at that, and equipment for a rack is expensive. |
| 22:39.53 | Nidhoggr | I have some pretty good sources. |
| 22:39.55 | Grumbler | i was once told i had a nice rack.....but that was at the beach..........and i dont think it was a compliment |
| 22:40.03 | Nidhoggr | snort. |
| 22:40.22 | JBdiGriz | I ended up getting a nice little bookcase machine, quiet and inexpensive. |
| 22:40.56 | Patlabor221 | so today the IT guys says all our dumb hubs and switches got hacked |
| 22:41.10 | Patlabor221 | like the netgear 10/100 5 port hub |
| 22:41.38 | Nidhoggr | ugh |
| 22:41.50 | Nidhoggr | you guys need a new IT guy. |
| 22:41.56 | Nidhoggr | badly |
| 22:41.57 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 22:42.11 | JBdiGriz | So the hub is the source of your virus now. :) |
| 22:42.36 | Patlabor221 | me an the other guy here are going down when he gets back to listen to his story for why all serverices were down last night. |
| 22:42.43 | Patlabor221 | and explain to his boss if it is bull or not |
| 22:42.57 | Patlabor221 | this will probably determine if he is allowed to keep his current position. |
| 22:43.35 | Patlabor221 | ~nslookup bakadigital.com |
| 22:43.42 | Patlabor221 | yay |
| 22:43.50 | Patlabor221 | ~nslookup jeffm.bakadigital.com |
| 22:43.54 | JBdiGriz | It's been working for me all day |
| 22:43.57 | Patlabor221 | double yah |
| 22:45.07 | Patlabor221 | cool |
| 22:49.02 | Grumbler | not me....as of 10 seconds ago :( |
| 22:49.32 | Grumbler | i do get a nice website for domain services though...hahaha |
| 22:50.02 | Patlabor221 | yeah then it is still propigating I guess |
| 22:50.10 | Patlabor221 | waiting for the master name server to get to you |
| 22:50.14 | JBdiGriz | Clearly you need a better domain name server |
| 22:50.20 | Patlabor221 | when it expired they moved the name server to them |
| 22:50.37 | creeperz | what linux distrobution does patlabor221 use? |
| 22:50.38 | Grumbler | but, but COVAD runs the world |
| 22:51.07 | JBdiGriz | They are a legend in their own mind. |
| 22:51.31 | Grumbler | and they charge like it as well |
| 22:51.48 | Patlabor221 | no I need better e-mail |
| 22:52.04 | Patlabor221 | where creeperz? I have multiple machines |
| 22:52.12 | Patlabor221 | godady was very hepfull when I called them |
| 22:52.17 | Patlabor221 | I could not remember my login to renew |
| 22:52.23 | Patlabor221 | and they took care of it for me right away |
| 22:52.28 | Patlabor221 | so I can't really complain |
| 22:52.32 | Grumbler | money talks |
| 22:52.35 | Patlabor221 | it's my fault for losing the mail really |
| 22:52.44 | Patlabor221 | well it was only $17 for 2 more years |
| 22:52.52 | Grumbler | thats a good price |
| 22:53.05 | Patlabor221 | it expired on the 5th and they changed the nameservers to them on the 15th |
| 22:53.16 | JBdiGriz | My domains expire in 2010, so I don't have to worry quite yet. |
| 22:53.21 | creeperz | on your cool osx lookin screenshot on your blog |
| 22:53.27 | Patlabor221 | that is debian |
| 22:53.43 | Patlabor221 | and the one in the post? or the one on the left side? |
| 22:53.59 | Patlabor221 | it's just gnome 2.4, it's not distro specific |
| 22:54.00 | creeperz | post |
| 22:54.17 | Patlabor221 | you could put that on any linux or bsd system |
| 22:54.44 | Patlabor221 | are there any other OSs that run X? |
| 22:55.36 | JBdiGriz | All Unix systems, there are X servers for Mac OS 9, and for Winderz |
| 22:57.21 | Patlabor221 | is gnome just a Xfree86 thing? or a X11 thing |
| 22:57.29 | JBdiGriz | X11 thing |
| 22:57.32 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 22:57.46 | Patlabor221 | so then there are many OSs and linux Distros that can do that |
| 22:57.48 | JBdiGriz | XFree86 is just an implementation of X11 |
| 22:59.07 | Patlabor221 | yes that I knew |
| 22:59.26 | Patlabor221 | I didn't know if gnome was only made for that implemenation |
| 22:59.51 | Grumbler | so did it get its name because it started in 1986 and was free, or it was meant to free the 8086, or there was a prisoner 86 and this software set him free |
| 22:59.52 | Patlabor221 | tho most of those icons are from KDE |
| 23:00.38 | Tupone | X for 386 => X386 => XFree86 |
| 23:00.48 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 23:01.03 | Patlabor221 | tho it has been done on many other archetecures right? |
| 23:01.08 | JBdiGriz | X is from X11, Free is the generic term people use for open source software, 86 is the x86 |
| 23:01.16 | Patlabor221 | or are those other X11 implemtations |
| 23:01.18 | Tupone | after that yes |
| 23:01.33 | JBdiGriz | I think there were some implementation for the 8086 before the 386 |
| 23:01.38 | Grumbler | .....dang and i thought it was related to lynrd skynrd somehow....... |
| 23:02.04 | Grumbler | nice history stuff though |
| 23:02.50 | Tupone | now it is the only X11 that is really dictating new standard, it is the edge, use before incorporating things in the classic X11 |
| 23:03.10 | Patlabor221 | heh funny |
| 23:03.20 | Patlabor221 | but it's nice that it's moving forward |
| 23:04.09 | Patlabor221 | I am geting very used to gnome |
| 23:04.24 | Patlabor221 | I may change to fluxbox with the gnome panels at some point |
| 23:04.34 | Patlabor221 | I can't get KDE to install tho :( |
| 23:05.01 | Patlabor221 | I got bzflag to build |
| 23:05.09 | Tupone | gnome is the Window Manager Sun want to use on their platform |
| 23:05.11 | Patlabor221 | so I 'm happy for that |
| 23:05.36 | Patlabor221 | is that windowmaker? |
| 23:05.58 | Patlabor221 | I have only ever used gnome, kde, and fluxbox |
| 23:05.59 | learner | Sun, SGI, IBM, and others all had there own X11 server back in the days |
| 23:06.07 | JBdiGriz | Tupone: The x.org people might disagree with your assessment. |
| 23:06.21 | Patlabor221 | I like the menus of flux, but I still like having a "taskbar" kinda thing, and desktop icons |
| 23:06.35 | Tupone | I read that x.org people work for xfree86 |
| 23:06.39 | Tupone | isn't that? |
| 23:06.44 | Grumbler | Patlabor221: think so, been a while since i traced its heritage......i keep the same config file and move from unix box to unix box.........for years |
| 23:06.45 | Patlabor221 | mmmmmmmm ROTK soundtracky goodness :) |
| 23:07.35 | Tupone | could be I read a little biased magazine :) |
| 23:09.43 | JBdiGriz | Just searching around, it looks like xfree86 is an honorary member of x.org, but from what I can tell, HP and IBM are still helping drive the standard. |
| 23:11.25 | Tupone | I read that they use XFree86 as a preferred way to test things |
| 23:12.51 | JBdiGriz | All X sources start from a base that comes from the consortium. The various members add their own enhancements to that base. It might just be the perspective that you're reading. |
| 23:13.34 | Tupone | I was reading, don't remember where :) |
| 23:15.17 | JBdiGriz | Actually, it's all owned by SCO since it was originally written for Unix long ago. :) |
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| 23:15.49 | Death_Barrel | hey guys |
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| 23:29.45 | fiberchunks_ | allo |
| 23:38.58 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 23:39.18 | fiberchunks_ | heya ... what's happenin with the bakadigital server? |
| 23:40.12 | fiberchunks_ | tried to go to p24 and your blog site yesterday but it died? |
| 23:41.01 | fiberchunks_ | nm learner told me |
| 23:41.12 | Patlabor221 | the domain expired |
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| 23:41.15 | Patlabor221 | it is fixed now |
| 23:41.29 | Patlabor221 | well it is repropigating |
| 23:41.39 | Patlabor221 | I'm tyring to think of a P24 specific domain |
| 23:43.22 | Tupone | orchidea ... |
| 23:43.44 | Patlabor221 | ?? |
| 23:44.06 | Tupone | just cheering |
| 23:44.19 | Patlabor221 | ahh :) |
| 23:45.18 | orchid | hi Tupone |
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