| 00:00.34 | TimRiker | tipped shots are cool. ;-) |
| 00:01.12 | TimRiker | Chestal: the sound should still be there... /me tests... |
| 00:02.53 | TimRiker | hmm. I hear the land sound when joining on top of a building instead of the plop sound. |
| 00:04.43 | TimRiker | yeah, the not stopping on keyboard play has to get fixed. |
| 00:05.02 | TimRiker | not worried about the plop. we can fix that later if needed. |
| 00:08.43 | Noodleman | how can i get the current cvs? |
| 00:08.54 | Noodleman | is sfsnap current? |
| 00:08.59 | Noodleman | ~sfsnap |
| 00:09.02 | | extra, extra, read all about it, sfsnap is http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/bzflag/ |
| 00:10.19 | Noodleman | i guess it is current |
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| 00:29.34 | brlcad | the plop is there.. just apparently playing from the wrong location |
| 00:29.54 | brlcad | tipping is working as expected, though .. |
| 00:32.09 | Chestal | 1.7 had a playLOcalsound for the POP |
| 00:32.13 | Chestal | uhm |
| 00:32.28 | Chestal | is respawn position handled via MsgAlive? |
| 00:32.34 | Chestal | whatevfer, must go to bed |
| 00:34.11 | TimRiker | anonymous cvs should be working again, but might be 24 hours out of date. |
| 00:40.50 | Chestal | hmm, I think I get double-respawns sometimes |
| 00:41.32 | Noodleman_laptop | that is just the coolest... |
| 00:41.41 | TimRiker | what is? |
| 00:41.55 | Noodleman_laptop | 1.10 on a plasma screen |
| 00:42.01 | TimRiker | ;-) |
| 00:42.07 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): play local respawn pop if it#s my own MsgAlive |
| 00:42.12 | Noodleman_laptop | ricochet works right! |
| 00:44.41 | TimRiker | brb |
| 00:45.14 | Chestal | ok, night |
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| 00:46.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o BZFlag] by ChanServ |
| 01:03.45 | *** join/#bzflag Grumbler (~Grumbler@pool-162-84-20-63.sal.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:03.53 | Grumbler | ~seen Nidhoggr |
| 01:03.56 | | nidhoggr is currently on #bzflag (1d 7h 48m 35s). Has said a total of 39 messages. Is idling for 3h 49m 45s |
| 01:10.10 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 01:12.30 | orchid | hello |
| 01:12.52 | Grumbler | how is the IT guy? |
| 01:13.17 | orchid | hes left me alone for a while, so im happy |
| 01:13.25 | Grumbler | :) |
| 01:13.45 | Grumbler | ok, back to fiddling with this hdtv thingy......have fun |
| 01:31.24 | *** join/#bzflag corndawg (~who_cares@c-24-131-245-105.mw.client2.attbi.com) |
| 01:31.28 | corndawg | hey all |
| 01:32.06 | corndawg | anyone know what happend to the shellshock site? |
| 01:54.34 | *** join/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 01:55.37 | KR | almost time for the new Battlestar Galactica to start :) |
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| 02:04.19 | Ares | morning |
| 02:07.39 | orchid | hello |
| 02:12.44 | Patlabor221 | ~bzfslist |
| 02:14.03 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (~MeBigFatG@balt-209-163-100-213.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 02:14.35 | MrApathyCream | hey cappy, any luck figure out how i was a doofis? |
| 02:14.45 | captain_proton | haven't looked at it yet |
| 02:14.54 | MrApathyCream | mmmok |
| 02:22.39 | MrApathyCream | it would appear i'm not gonna get the responses i was hoping for on bzbb |
| 02:38.00 | scanline | wibble |
| 02:38.21 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-173.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 02:42.38 | Patlabor221 | but do they fall down? |
| 03:01.17 | *** join/#bzflag awox (~awox@dialup-34.141.220.203.acc01-elbo-cof.comindico.com.au) |
| 03:01.48 | awox | Hi guys! Are there any Australians in here? I keep on getting booted from foreign servers because I have high latency, but I still kick ass. :) |
| 03:02.33 | awox | Great game by the way, it's really fun for the 2minutes I get to play it each go. :) |
| 03:08.29 | KR | lol awox |
| 03:09.40 | orchid | awox, there are a couple Aussi/kiwi servers and players |
| 03:10.03 | KR | go to here : http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/ and here : http://bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=home& |
| 03:10.19 | KR | two websites where you will probably be better finding some mates |
| 03:10.40 | KR | also, orchid speaks the truth :) |
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| 03:23.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 03:27.00 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 03:32.36 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (README): places to tell about releases |
| 03:36.50 | KR | ReleaseBZFlag - I can test a .deb for you tonite if you'd like |
| 03:40.00 | ReleaseBZFlag | KR: I'm working on cleanup issues and reported debian bugs. I'll have one but probably in a couple hours (I'm taking a break in a bit). |
| 03:40.35 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:40.58 | ReleaseBZFlag | not sure I've got the build depends correct for stable, I intend to release for all three (well tag it for release) so this should replace the old 1.7d9 in stable at some point. |
| 03:41.02 | KR | OK, just let me know if u do |
| 03:41.13 | KR | running sarge |
| 03:41.16 | captain_proton | what day does SF think it is? :) |
| 03:41.44 | DTRemenak | captain_proton: it varies, from day to day |
| 03:41.52 | DTRemenak | but it's usually at least one day off |
| 03:42.31 | ReleaseBZFlag | timriker@sc8-pr-shell1:timriker$ date --utc |
| 03:42.31 | ReleaseBZFlag | Tue Dec 9 03:42:22 UTC 2003 |
| 03:42.38 | captain_proton | yay |
| 03:42.40 | captain_proton | 12/9 release |
| 03:42.57 | MrApathyCream | woowoo |
| 03:42.58 | ReleaseBZFlag | whose around to do a mac and/or win build? |
| 03:43.59 | MrApathyCream | learner should be here soon |
| 03:44.05 | MrApathyCream | for mac |
| 03:44.10 | MrApathyCream | i can do doze |
| 03:44.17 | MrApathyCream | or jeff |
| 03:46.44 | ReleaseBZFlag | cool. I presume things are all building now, yes? I'm testing make distcheck, rpm builds and "make deb" now. I'll change the version stamp once all those look good with correct included docs etc. |
| 03:46.51 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 03:47.37 | ReleaseBZFlag | ~hd |
| 03:47.38 | | ACTION does a Happy Dance |
| 03:48.49 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-67-115-247-126.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 03:48.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 03:48.51 | awox | damn cheaters. |
| 03:50.07 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: so when are you picking up the haibane renmei soundtrack? :) |
| 03:50.15 | Patlabor221 | the what? |
| 03:50.24 | KR | Congrats, guys and gals ! :_D |
| 03:50.47 | ReleaseBZFlag | KR: it's not over yet... ;-) |
| 03:51.16 | KR | mebbe not, but if that ain't the fat lady, someone's singin' :) |
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| 03:59.26 | Grumbler | good luck |
| 04:00.30 | ReleaseBZFlag | with which? is sid broken at present? |
| 04:02.56 | Grumbler | ....in general, before i leave |
| 04:09.39 | Noodleman | after i install the xcode tools, i can do a mac os x build |
| 04:09.59 | Noodleman | Time Remaining: about 4 minutes |
| 04:14.41 | ReleaseBZFlag | sweet |
| 04:15.18 | Noodleman | where can i get the code that needs building? |
| 04:16.33 | MrApathyCream | sshvcs |
| 04:16.46 | Noodleman | hmm |
| 04:17.15 | ReleaseBZFlag | Noodleman: want access for builds? got a sf account? |
| 04:17.21 | *** part/#bzflag trepan (~trepan@CPE0040f42db082-CM00e06f15f704.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:17.25 | Noodleman | yeah, it's noodleroni |
| 04:24.44 | Noodleman | ReleaseBZFlag: sure; my sf account is under noodleroni |
| 04:25.05 | learner | heya mac [grin] |
| 04:25.27 | learner | Oooh nice ReleaseBZFlag :) |
| 04:25.32 | MrApathyCream | hehe\ |
| 04:26.13 | learner | mac, did you see the two bugs? |
| 04:26.14 | ReleaseBZFlag | /usr/sbin/apache: relocation error: /usr/lib/php4/20010901/sqlite.so: undefined symbol: php_error_docref |
| 04:26.48 | learner | eek.. is that a hand build sqlite? |
| 04:27.58 | ReleaseBZFlag | Noodleman: added. |
| 04:28.12 | Noodleman | ok |
| 04:28.17 | ReleaseBZFlag | learner: that's from brlcad and then built here. |
| 04:28.37 | MrApathyCream | learner: no |
| 04:28.41 | MrApathyCream | where? |
| 04:29.08 | learner | mac: try 1) driving with keys and 2) listen for where the "plop" rentry sound occurs |
| 04:29.37 | MrApathyCream | chestal fixed, no? |
| 04:29.42 | learner | dunno |
| 04:29.46 | learner | just got home |
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| 04:40.44 | HEINOLA | hello all happy persons |
| 04:40.44 | HEINOLA | :) |
| 04:40.54 | learner | hello heinola |
| 04:41.00 | learner | how are you today? |
| 04:41.03 | DTRemenak | 'lo |
| 04:41.46 | HEINOLA | good |
| 04:42.41 | learner | hehe, wow.. db.bzflag.org is indexed by google :) |
| 04:42.46 | learner | http://db.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST, that is :) |
| 04:42.49 | HEINOLA | if a super taco salad does not have olives is it really a super taco salad? |
| 04:43.01 | learner | yes. |
| 04:43.23 | learner | :) |
| 04:43.43 | HEINOLA | hey learner |
| 04:44.12 | Noodleman | finally building :-) |
| 04:44.22 | learner | MAC: just saw your e-mail :) |
| 04:44.23 | Noodleman | slow connection... |
| 04:44.25 | learner | hehe |
| 04:44.52 | Noodleman | i suppose surfing whilst checking out doesn't help :-) |
| 04:46.19 | *** join/#bzflag RC_cola (Chikorita@AC918C5B.ipt.aol.com) |
| 04:46.48 | RC_cola | heehe |
| 04:47.15 | RC_cola | iz 1.10 out now? |
| 04:48.39 | KR | hey chic - one really good scene coming up - when the cylons nuke the planet, after the attacks start, you get to see it from space - looks very real |
| 04:48.48 | RC_cola | o okies |
| 04:48.58 | KR | its a few scenes away from now |
| 04:49.36 | RC_cola | hey dats lt. castillo |
| 04:49.45 | RC_cola | from miami vice |
| 04:49.46 | RC_cola | heehe |
| 04:50.14 | RC_cola | "dat'll b all captain,.." |
| 04:50.27 | RC_cola | heehe |
| 04:50.43 | RC_cola | brb |
| 04:50.53 | Megachirops | battlestar galactica? |
| 04:52.06 | *** join/#bzflag learner (~brlcad@chr160dhcp1509.chrchv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 04:52.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o learner] by ChanServ |
| 04:52.40 | KR | yeah |
| 04:52.43 | captain_proton | mmmm, xml schemae |
| 04:53.03 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:53.04 | KR | learner changes, but stays the same |
| 04:53.09 | *** join/#bzflag HEINOLA (~heinola@63.98.3.192) |
| 04:53.28 | KR | learn - series premier new BG is on |
| 04:53.37 | KR | scifi channel |
| 04:53.38 | captain_proton | learner: its not bzflag related |
| 04:54.40 | learner | yes.. I'm passively watching BG right now |
| 04:54.54 | learner | but what does BG have to do with xml? :) |
| 04:55.41 | KR | they're both have letters? |
| 04:56.52 | RC_cola | iz she a robot? |
| 04:56.54 | learner | no kidding |
| 04:57.32 | learner | though I'm still waiting for the brunette cylon :) |
| 04:57.35 | RC_cola | dats ibot on TV |
| 04:57.45 | RC_cola | heehe |
| 04:57.59 | RC_cola | ibot: botsnack |
| 04:57.59 | | RC_cola: :) |
| 04:58.04 | HEINOLA | arm and attack alantia |
| 04:58.46 | HEINOLA | i got those old BG movies lol |
| 04:58.47 | RC_cola | ibot sez "by ur command" |
| 04:58.49 | | RC_cola: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 04:58.51 | RC_cola | heehe |
| 04:59.01 | Megachirops | i really wish i had satellite in my room... |
| 04:59.59 | RC_cola | i liked Starbuck , he was cute |
| 05:01.20 | KR | I wonder how much VRAM she has, and what kernel she's running? |
| 05:01.43 | Megachirops | *sighs* |
| 05:02.00 | KR | boom |
| 05:03.14 | RC_cola | thers a betta show on The Learnin Channel.. |
| 05:03.31 | learner | wow |
| 05:03.36 | RC_cola | egyptian history an mythology |
| 05:03.41 | RC_cola | stuffs.. |
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| 05:04.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o learner] by ChanServ |
| 05:04.13 | Noodleman | cosby show's on now on nick @ nite :-) |
| 05:04.27 | RC_cola | lol noodle |
| 05:04.30 | Noodleman | that's better than whatever lame show it is you |
| 05:04.34 | Noodleman | r watching :-) |
| 05:04.59 | RC_cola | nah |
| 05:05.10 | RC_cola | dats an old show ...seen em |
| 05:05.25 | Noodleman | but, they are rewatchable :-) |
| 05:05.40 | Noodleman | you forgot that one detail |
| 05:05.49 | Megachirops | re-watch-ability |
| 05:05.53 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 05:06.05 | RC_cola | steve irwins playin wif snakes again , LoL |
| 05:06.13 | RC_cola | BB would like dat show |
| 05:06.13 | KR | crikey |
| 05:06.24 | RC_cola | lol |
| 05:06.35 | HEINOLA | is there a channel bot ? |
| 05:06.41 | RC_cola | "ur alright mate ur alright" |
| 05:06.54 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 05:07.12 | HEINOLA | theres one at #linuxbeginner thats got good winjokes |
| 05:07.16 | RC_cola | his wife sounds american |
| 05:07.34 | Noodleman | he wife is from eugene, oregon, that's why :-) |
| 05:07.48 | Noodleman | from my neck of the woods |
| 05:08.17 | RC_cola | ooH |
| 05:08.31 | RC_cola | lol he told da snake not to bite tween his legs |
| 05:09.00 | RC_cola | he iz crazee ... |
| 05:09.19 | HEINOLA | SHELL to DOS come in DOS do you copy |
| 05:09.21 | Noodleman | no, just never has enough adrenaline in his system |
| 05:09.36 | Megachirops | get's plenny of money |
| 05:09.39 | RC_cola | o wow ther iz da video game awards on da Spike channel |
| 05:10.27 | RC_cola | wow dat star wars game looks neet |
| 05:10.27 | Noodleman | ReleaseBZFlag: i can only get cvs to build thru the regular unix tools on mac os x; the more "correct" way gives errors |
| 05:10.54 | MrApathyCream | learner can build mac |
| 05:11.07 | Noodleman | alright, i'll let him do it :-P |
| 05:11.18 | Noodleman | l8r, i best be heading to bed |
| 05:11.38 | MrApathyCream | dream of sugar plums dancing in your head |
| 05:11.55 | RC_cola | tony hawk looks alil like tom green |
| 05:12.01 | learner | heh.. Noodle.. are you 10.3? |
| 05:12.17 | Noodleman | learner: yeah |
| 05:12.29 | learner | k |
| 05:12.37 | learner | the conversion to xcode isn't complete |
| 05:12.42 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.46 | Noodleman | ok |
| 05:13.07 | Noodleman | RC_cola: maybe that's because he ate too much |
| 05:13.16 | Noodleman | bad joke... |
| 05:13.59 | Noodleman | green, indigestion... nobody ever laughs at my jokes |
| 05:14.01 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 05:14.07 | RC_cola | o |
| 05:14.20 | Noodleman | ok, l8r |
| 05:14.40 | RC_cola | l8r oodles of noodles |
| 05:14.43 | RC_cola | heehe |
| 05:14.52 | creeperz | hmm |
| 05:14.57 | creeperz | ~dict oodle |
| 05:15.12 | creeperz | :-( |
| 05:15.16 | RC_cola | ~dict oodles |
| 05:15.24 | RC_cola | ther u go |
| 05:15.29 | creeperz | it is a word :-) |
| 05:15.48 | RC_cola | ya , surprised mee2 :) |
| 05:17.05 | RC_cola | lol L |
| 05:17.07 | awox | ~dict feck |
| 05:17.16 | battlestar | MAC, plop is fixed, keys are not |
| 05:17.22 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 05:17.32 | MrApathyCream | someone made changes for roaming |
| 05:17.35 | MrApathyCream | perhaps that did it |
| 05:17.39 | MrApathyCream | what's the keys do? |
| 05:17.51 | battlestar | they don't stop after you release them |
| 05:17.57 | MrApathyCream | mmm |
| 05:18.02 | battlestar | so you're always turning once you start |
| 05:18.26 | battlestar | forward/reverse are fine, turning is not |
| 05:18.44 | awox | Any chance of getting server latency in the server browser? =) |
| 05:19.11 | battlestar | slim chance |
| 05:19.25 | battlestar | but eventually :) |
| 05:19.28 | MrApathyCream | well, for one, down arrow brings up send to... |
| 05:19.34 | awox | I connect to about 20 servers before I get one that I don't get booted for lag. That server ends up to be cheat infested. |
| 05:19.45 | battlestar | hehe |
| 05:19.57 | awox | I have to go to work, ffs. |
| 05:20.03 | awox | Being employed sucks. |
| 05:20.50 | MrApathyCream | almost as much as not being employed |
| 05:21.37 | MrApathyCream | learner: where is key processing done, do you know? |
| 05:22.31 | battlestar | actual processing is in playing.cxx I think.. after they are already converted to bz events from platform |
| 05:25.59 | RC_cola | ~quol |
| 05:26.11 | RC_cola | ~q2 |
| 05:30.15 | MrApathyCream | doKeyPlaying |
| 05:30.36 | ReleaseBZFlag | anyone worked on the two bugs yet? |
| 05:30.54 | battlestar | chestal already fixed the plop entry bug |
| 05:34.32 | scanline | mmm.. IRC mini-fridge |
| 05:34.44 | RC_cola | cant wait 2 try da new version :) |
| 05:34.44 | ReleaseBZFlag | not sure why he did what he did. |
| 05:35.28 | ReleaseBZFlag | I would think that the normal sound function should work and play it local if the distance is near zero, and the distance should always be 0 at that point. |
| 05:36.10 | MrApathyCream | i believe that is consistent with the way it works other places |
| 05:36.17 | MrApathyCream | altho i agree that it should work the other way |
| 05:36.17 | battlestar | yes.. it looks like a quick hack fix of the symptom instead of the problem |
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| 05:39.37 | MrApathyCream | hey tupone, we're trying to track down why driving with keyboard doesn't stop the tank when you release the keys |
| 05:41.51 | Tupone | could be larsl fix? |
| 05:42.08 | Tupone | 2/3 day ago |
| 05:42.17 | battlestar | that sounds about right |
| 05:43.24 | MrApathyCream | tupone ues |
| 05:43.24 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 05:46.52 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, me thinks chestal slipped a non-char char into playing.cxx |
| 05:46.57 | MrApathyCream | VC thinks it's a binary file |
| 05:48.31 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): remove ^K |
| 05:49.18 | MrApathyCream | ah thanks |
| 05:49.22 | battlestar | ah.. i see now.. larsl bound left and right arrow to roam rotate stop.. I don't think multiple key bindings work yet with the keymanager |
| 05:49.29 | battlestar | yet |
| 05:50.04 | battlestar | so he overrides the "up" event and rotation never stops |
| 05:50.10 | battlestar | makes sense |
| 05:50.27 | MrApathyCream | reverting? |
| 05:50.59 | battlestar | just the left and right arrow need to be reverted/removed |
| 05:51.02 | battlestar | testing too |
| 05:51.17 | MrApathyCream | woowoo |
| 05:51.24 | Tupone | works? |
| 05:52.21 | battlestar | odd.. he also binds down and up arrow, yet they aren't troublesome (i think) |
| 05:53.16 | battlestar | ah.. they are borked too |
| 05:55.58 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:56.16 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 05:56.39 | scanline | you'd usually use the (sizeof(array)/sizeof(array[0])) trick |
| 05:57.01 | battlestar | or even better.. use a real std::array |
| 05:57.07 | ReleaseBZFlag | hmm. cept that menus.cxx references it... |
| 05:57.09 | scanline | indeed |
| 05:57.10 | battlestar | er, std::vector |
| 06:05.07 | creeperz | anyone know if patlabor221 will be back later? |
| 06:06.16 | MrApathyCream | prolly |
| 06:06.34 | MrApathyCream | probably resolves to compile time constant then, no? |
| 06:06.37 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): revert fix for observer motion since it breaks keyboard driving |
| 06:12.33 | ReleaseBZFlag | removing just the up bindings didn'd do it. =( |
| 06:12.59 | battlestar | damn, BG is better than I expected |
| 06:20.19 | ReleaseBZFlag | hmm did that fix anything? |
| 06:20.48 | battlestar | yes |
| 06:20.58 | battlestar | you'll have to clear the old entries from your config file |
| 06:21.03 | battlestar | that threw me for a sec too |
| 06:21.18 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): NUM_DEFAULT_BINDINGS to numDefaultBindings |
| 06:21.38 | ReleaseBZFlag | ahh. yep. |
| 06:24.40 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/include (KeyManager.h): be normal |
| 06:25.20 | battlestar | heh |
| 06:29.27 | Tupone | have to go |
| 06:29.35 | Tupone | bye |
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| 06:41.17 | battlestar | eep.. server-side auto-team is being rude :) |
| 06:47.53 | ReleaseBZFlag | globalDBItems should be const yes? |
| 06:48.14 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): hehe, don't let server-side autoteam setting force observers onto a team :) |
| 07:02.42 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 07:04.29 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (7 files in 2 dirs): sprinkle a little countof() |
| 07:04.32 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src (3 files in 3 dirs): sprinkle a little countof() |
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| 07:09.28 | captain_proton | the -only- thing in it is <xs:element name="technique"/> |
| 07:09.43 | captain_proton | and xmllint is giving me "element technique: Schemas validity error : Element technique not declared" |
| 07:09.49 | captain_proton | why? WHY? |
| 07:11.03 | MrApathyCream | <xs:simpleType name="technique/> |
| 07:11.03 | MrApathyCream | <xs:element type="technique"/> |
| 07:11.04 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 07:11.48 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 07:11.55 | captain_proton | schema.xsd:5: element element: Schemas parser error : Element has no name nor ref |
| 07:12.14 | captain_proton | nope, after i name it i get the same error as before |
| 07:12.15 | captain_proton | :( |
| 07:14.27 | captain_proton | well - the thing that really bothers me is that 20 minutes ago xmllint was working fine |
| 07:16.59 | captain_proton | hrmph |
| 07:17.13 | captain_proton | if i do something different (using the element "concept") it seems to work |
| 07:23.28 | MrApathyCream | hmm |
| 07:23.30 | MrApathyCream | wait |
| 07:23.35 | MrApathyCream | don't you need to specify a type |
| 07:23.36 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 07:23.56 | MrApathyCream | <xs:element name="technique" type="xs:string"/> |
| 07:23.58 | MrApathyCream | or whatever |
| 07:24.26 | captain_proton | not having a type is a different error than it not being declared |
| 07:24.40 | captain_proton | i'm going to go shower to clear my head |
| 07:24.53 | captain_proton | either i'm sorely misunderstanding xml schemae, or xmllint is a piece of crap |
| 07:25.55 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/doc (96 files in 5 dirs): comments that vim likes |
| 07:26.04 | MrApathyCream | my experience is that schema checkers just throw any error when they choke |
| 07:26.13 | MrApathyCream | usually it has nothing to do with what is the problem |
| 07:26.23 | MrApathyCream | the best you hope for is that they are relatively close to the porblem |
| 07:26.39 | ReleaseBZFlag | ~spell porblem |
| 07:26.46 | | possible spellings for porblem: problem Pablum pablum problems pabulum Ptolemy Belem pebble prelim |
| 07:30.47 | MrApathyCream | sax2count with validation is happy with |
| 07:30.48 | MrApathyCream | <xsd:schema xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"> |
| 07:30.48 | MrApathyCream | <xsd:element name="technique" type="xsd:string"/> |
| 07:30.48 | MrApathyCream | </xsd:schema> |
| 07:32.27 | MrApathyCream | so.... are we happy now ? |
| 07:32.36 | MrApathyCream | <with bz> |
| 07:33.42 | ReleaseBZFlag | could be. I'm doing some cleanup at the moment... commits coming |
| 07:34.25 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/doc (86 files in 6 dirs): ws |
| 07:34.53 | battlestar | ReleaseBZFlag: did you have a sed script? All of those vars can be done the same in the suffix block |
| 07:38.04 | MrApathyCream | hmm, it looks like const makes symbols non-exportable form libs |
| 07:38.10 | MrApathyCream | *from |
| 07:38.19 | MrApathyCream | bzflag.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "struct GlobalDBItem * globalDBItems" (?globalDBItems@@3PAUGlobalDBItem@@A) |
| 07:39.37 | battlestar | looks like you need to clean the build |
| 07:39.42 | battlestar | might be stale objects |
| 07:40.09 | battlestar | there shouldn't be any "struct GlobalDBItem *" now |
| 07:40.22 | ReleaseBZFlag | battlestar: I did it with a perl re. |
| 07:40.58 | battlestar | no biggie, I can fix it up later after release |
| 07:41.03 | MrApathyCream | hrmm |
| 07:41.04 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:41.05 | ReleaseBZFlag | battlestar: you proposing another change there? I don't run emacs so I'm not sure what it expects |
| 07:44.09 | battlestar | it expects a matching trailing suffix for each line after "Local Variables: SUFFIX" until "End: SUFFIX", otherwise it doesn't matter.. so basically the "<!--" on a line can be moved to the top and convert "<!-- Local Variables: -->" to " Local Variables: ***", "<!-- Mode: SGML -->" to " Mode: SGML ***" etc |
| 07:45.23 | MrApathyCream | w00t! |
| 07:45.31 | MrApathyCream | that were it ;*) |
| 07:47.11 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/doc/faq (Cheating.xml): example comment block |
| 07:47.14 | battlestar | ReleaseBZFlag: here's an example |
| 07:50.50 | ReleaseBZFlag | battlestar: it needs the *** on each line? |
| 07:51.33 | ReleaseBZFlag | wild.. |
| 07:52.11 | battlestar | any common suffix will work (even nothing I believe) -- i just picked "***" to match the c code |
| 07:54.55 | battlestar | yes.. just read and you should be able to remove the suffix altogether with no problem |
| 07:55.53 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/doc/faq (Cheating.xml): no suffix needed |
| 08:06.04 | ReleaseBZFlag | brb |
| 08:06.41 | learner | heh |
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| 08:07.11 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (19 files in 6 dirs): ws |
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| 08:07.19 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src (43 files in 10 dirs): ws |
| 08:58.34 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/debian (buildsnap): add -1 |
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| 09:27.35 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (tar): more debian build hacks |
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| 09:33.24 | larsl | Really? |
| 09:33.36 | TimRiker | really what? |
| 09:33.42 | larsl | "Eve of BZ R-Day..." |
| 09:34.02 | TimRiker | yep. builds and final tweaking in progress. |
| 09:34.47 | larsl | My bzfs started eating 99% CPU yesterday - it was on a rather complex map with variable changes every few minutes. |
| 09:37.43 | TimRiker | hmm. not good. |
| 09:38.24 | larsl | "Complex" in the sense that it had a non-default size and some world weapons. |
| 09:44.33 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || forums http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ || beta builds http://bzflag.dragon.org/builds/ || ban exceptions /mode #BZFlag +e nick!*user@*.dip.t-dialin.net || BZ R-Day... |
| 09:52.26 | larsl | I can't reproduce it now though, but I got it twice yesterday. |
| 09:52.49 | TimRiker | k. keep us posted. |
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| 10:07.33 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): prerelease\! |
| 10:08.43 | larsl_grb | Woohoo! |
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| 10:18.51 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/debian (rules): add bzfquery.6 |
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| 10:24.19 | bomber | moin |
| 10:28.16 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/debian (rules): bzfquery , no .pl |
| 10:48.47 | TimRiker | which debian servers are taking uploads? I can't seem to get in any of them. |
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| 13:06.11 | bomber | do someone know some good tutorial for opengl->Nurbs surfaces |
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| 13:40.35 | Michaelh | can I set the cvsroot variable to access the source via ssh? |
| 13:42.39 | Michaelh | doh nevermind it's already there when I do diff |
| 13:49.25 | drinian | bomber: you can try this site: http://www.naturewizard.com/ though I haven't looked at it closely |
| 13:56.15 | bomber | thx |
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| 14:39.20 | Grumbler | Whoohooo, release day |
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| 14:40.07 | nikt | ~bzflist |
| 14:40.25 | nikt | ~pp |
| 14:41.05 | nikt | ~pp.tz.ar.szczecin.pl |
| 14:43.28 | nikt | ~pp.tz.ar.szczecin.pl |
| 14:49.07 | bomber | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:17.02 | Nidhoggr | hrm... wonder if it'll work with birkenstocks instead of ruby slippers. |
| 15:17.19 | captain_proton | you were wearing ruby slipppers? :) |
| 15:23.14 | nikt | ~pp.tz.ar.szczecin.pl |
| 15:24.07 | [dmp] | ~bzfquery pp.tz.ar.szczecin.pl:5155 |
| 15:24.10 | Grumbler | ....and your little dog too |
| 15:24.43 | nikt | Thanks [dmp];> |
| 15:24.50 | [dmp] | :) |
| 15:27.03 | Nidhoggr | nope no ruby slippers today. just birkenstocks. |
| 15:27.05 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:27.53 | Nidhoggr | it's in topic. |
| 15:28.25 | Nidhoggr | I dunno if I want to keep same map on secretplace or change it with server change. |
| 15:28.33 | Nidhoggr | people love that map (God help them) |
| 15:28.55 | Grumbler | keep it for a bit......unless you just want to throw them into a fit |
| 15:29.07 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:29.14 | Grumbler | but, dragon.org could be rotated |
| 15:29.18 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 15:29.23 | Nidhoggr | that's the plan, hopefully. |
| 15:29.40 | Grumbler | there are quite a few maps on sf now......good source |
| 15:30.12 | Nidhoggr | I'm going to reduce 1.7 secretplace server to 2 shots and put an ad for 1.10 server in banner saying to upgrade to get to new setup. |
| 15:30.17 | Nidhoggr | true. |
| 15:30.30 | Nidhoggr | I did a really bad thing yesterday :) |
| 15:30.31 | Grumbler | good idea |
| 15:30.37 | Grumbler | ? |
| 15:30.56 | Nidhoggr | I upgraded my switch and it rebooted, because I didn't know it wouldn't let me apply the upgrade later. |
| 15:31.09 | Nidhoggr | server was offline for about 60 seconds. |
| 15:31.15 | Nidhoggr | and BOY did I hear about it! |
| 15:31.29 | Grumbler | hahah, probably killed Harmless's score....hahahah |
| 15:31.35 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:31.53 | Nidhoggr | i was thinking server code would be like cisco. upgrade and reboot later. |
| 15:32.02 | Nidhoggr | but NO! hp isn't like that! |
| 15:32.03 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:32.20 | Grumbler | yeah, probably a software thingy.... |
| 15:32.23 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 15:32.40 | Nidhoggr | I'm still waiting for them to come put with ssh for my switch. |
| 15:32.51 | Nidhoggr | at least it has tacacs+ |
| 15:33.22 | Grumbler | ssh i got |
| 15:33.28 | Nidhoggr | tacacs is cisco's access control thing. |
| 15:33.43 | Grumbler | ok, take your word for it |
| 15:33.48 | Nidhoggr | I can stick the daemon on dragon.org and give groups permissions and the switch will authenticate off of dragon.org |
| 15:34.08 | Nidhoggr | it's kinda cool. |
| 15:36.10 | Grumbler | i started serving a new X-Life last night, my connection was horrible......huge lag spikes. |
| 15:36.41 | Grumbler | but Tier, ran fine over the weekend.....go figure |
| 15:37.11 | Nidhoggr | X-Life? |
| 15:37.15 | Grumbler | maps |
| 15:37.18 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 15:37.19 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 15:37.42 | Nidhoggr | well, I have bandwidth available if there is a need. |
| 15:38.19 | Nidhoggr | I think I'm going to up my minimum commit to 3 megs |
| 15:38.24 | Grumbler | appreciate the offer, kinda like having the immediate control i have here.... |
| 15:38.29 | Nidhoggr | then i can run a few more servers. :) |
| 15:38.42 | Grumbler | is that 3 up/down |
| 15:38.46 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 15:39.10 | Nidhoggr | connected at 100 (I could connect at gig over fiber) |
| 15:39.14 | Grumbler | dang, i get burned with the 128k up, real flakey |
| 15:39.34 | Nidhoggr | I'm sorta connected, yaknow. :) |
| 15:40.28 | Nidhoggr | I need to sell some more rack space to support my habit. |
| 15:40.40 | Grumbler | haha, if they need a building to store more servers, i have a spare room.......just cost a little bandwidth :0 |
| 15:40.48 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:41.12 | Nidhoggr | we are dropping the manhole vaults for the OC48 today. |
| 15:41.21 | Nidhoggr | well, 2 OC58s |
| 15:41.23 | Nidhoggr | 48s |
| 15:42.02 | Nidhoggr | 48*45mbps |
| 15:42.07 | Nidhoggr | over fiber (oc) |
| 15:42.27 | Grumbler | oc, not of......must have been a management thing |
| 15:42.37 | Nidhoggr | 2.16gbps |
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| 15:59.34 | Nidhoggr | hi larsl |
| 16:00.36 | Noodleman | did we get it released?? |
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| 16:16.04 | Death_Barrel | hey guys |
| 16:16.50 | Noodleman | hey howdy hey |
| 16:16.55 | Death_Barrel | hehe |
| 16:16.58 | Death_Barrel | whats up dude? |
| 16:17.36 | Noodleman | last night they were trying to get 1.10 released; don't know if they did it |
| 16:17.44 | Death_Barrel | really? |
| 16:17.46 | Death_Barrel | cool |
| 16:17.57 | Death_Barrel | i wonder if it is posted yet |
| 16:17.59 | Death_Barrel | i will check |
| 16:21.35 | Death_Barrel | nope i don't see it on bzflag.org |
| 16:23.49 | [dmp] | would properly be in topic too, if it was released. |
| 16:25.05 | Grumbler | all thats there now is BZ R-Day |
| 16:25.16 | Noodleman | hehe |
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| 16:35.19 | Death_Barrel | hehe dmp: every time i log into #bzflag i always forget to read the topic |
| 16:35.20 | Death_Barrel | lol |
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| 16:47.17 | Merry | hi all |
| 16:47.19 | Nidhoggr | too much junk at work. :( |
| 16:47.28 | Nidhoggr | hello, again merry. happy birthday. :) |
| 16:47.49 | Merry | thanks, again |
| 16:48.45 | Merry | LoL |
| 16:50.04 | Nidhoggr | actually, I'm eating christmas cookies, so I gave up on the holding my breath thing |
| 16:50.12 | Death_Barrel | hehe |
| 16:50.12 | Noodleman | haha |
| 16:50.18 | Death_Barrel | email me a cookie :) |
| 16:50.20 | Nidhoggr | my sister sent my favorite cookies. |
| 16:50.24 | Noodleman | i need my sister to make more christmas cookies |
| 16:50.44 | Death_Barrel | uuummmmm chocolate chip! |
| 16:50.52 | Death_Barrel | i think i will make some tonight :D |
| 16:50.59 | Merry | LoL |
| 16:50.59 | Death_Barrel | with a glass of milk |
| 16:51.00 | Noodleman | she makes the kind that flow |
| 16:51.02 | Nidhoggr | they're called "cherry winks" they are a cake cookie with cherries and walnuts. |
| 16:51.12 | Death_Barrel | ack |
| 16:51.12 | Noodleman | hold them on the edge and the slowly bend |
| 16:51.13 | Nidhoggr | I have some coffee. |
| 16:51.18 | Death_Barrel | i only like choco chip |
| 16:51.27 | Noodleman | good stuff those cookies :-) |
| 16:51.28 | Death_Barrel | and oatmeal raisen |
| 16:51.31 | Nidhoggr | I tolerate choco chip :) |
| 16:51.36 | Death_Barrel | and sometimes sugar |
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| 16:51.46 | Noodleman | i like just about any cookies |
| 16:51.54 | Nidhoggr | good morning mister 221 |
| 16:51.57 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:51.59 | Death_Barrel | howdy pat |
| 16:52.00 | Noodleman | i'm not discriminate about cookies |
| 16:52.05 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 16:52.09 | Merry | lol |
| 16:52.11 | Merry | hi pat |
| 16:52.17 | Nidhoggr | I like cherry winks and peanut butter cookies best. |
| 16:52.19 | Death_Barrel | what about a dog poo cookie? |
| 16:52.24 | Noodleman | hey hey, it's the monkees! |
| 16:52.30 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 16:52.42 | Noodleman | well, i'd have to draw the line at a dog poo cookie :-) |
| 16:52.45 | Death_Barrel | ever heard of Frank Zapa? |
| 16:52.49 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 16:52.52 | Nidhoggr | zappa was a nutso guy. |
| 16:52.54 | Nidhoggr | and funny |
| 16:52.55 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:53.07 | Noodleman | just the name, never heard his music or anything |
| 16:53.07 | Death_Barrel | "he took a dog doo snow cone and shoved it in my right eye" |
| 16:53.15 | Nidhoggr | any man who names his daughter "moon unit" and his son "dweezle" |
| 16:53.24 | Death_Barrel | "watch out where the huskies go, don't you eat that yellow snow" |
| 16:53.32 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 16:53.33 | Noodleman | i was just gunna saw that, Nidhoggr :-) |
| 16:53.34 | Death_Barrel | moon unit |
| 16:53.38 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 16:53.38 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:53.39 | Death_Barrel | hi quol |
| 16:53.48 | Death_Barrel | she was an mtv VJ |
| 16:53.52 | Nidhoggr | she just goes by "moon" now. :) |
| 16:53.53 | Noodleman | saw == say |
| 16:53.55 | Quol | hey DB - how are ya? |
| 16:54.04 | Nidhoggr | she dropped the "unit". |
| 16:54.04 | Death_Barrel | noone ever believes me when i tell them that he named his daughter that |
| 16:54.13 | Death_Barrel | quol: good :) |
| 16:54.15 | Death_Barrel | working |
| 16:54.47 | Noodleman | rolf == roll on la floor? is that some continental thing? |
| 16:54.49 | Death_Barrel | how about you quol? |
| 16:54.50 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 16:54.54 | Quol | me too - just checking in as I haven't had any time to do that over the past week+....been busy over here :( |
| 16:55.01 | Death_Barrel | ah |
| 16:55.03 | Death_Barrel | hehe |
| 16:55.10 | Death_Barrel | same here |
| 16:55.35 | Quol | haven't played any BC whatsoever in almost 2 weeks I think...oh well. :) |
| 16:55.40 | Merry | hi quol |
| 16:55.43 | Quol | BC = BZ... |
| 16:55.46 | Death_Barrel | the spanish version of rotfl=rolf |
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| 16:55.58 | Quol | hey Merry - how are ya? |
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| 16:56.10 | bomber | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.11 | Merry | quol: good, you? |
| 16:56.15 | Noodleman | Quol: have you played any AB? |
| 16:56.17 | Death_Barrel | quol, i have not seen you in about 1week :) |
| 16:57.13 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:57.24 | Quol | Noodleman: funny :0 |
| 16:57.35 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 16:57.51 | Noodleman | someone got one of my lame jokes! |
| 16:58.00 | Merry | hey eviel noodle |
| 16:58.02 | Merry | ;) |
| 16:58.06 | Merry | didn't see u on |
| 16:58.09 | Noodleman | hey Merry |
| 16:58.13 | Death_Barrel | quol: what do you think about me sending in a HoW team design to tim riker so he can make a shirt out of it? |
| 16:58.28 | Merry | LoL |
| 16:58.37 | Death_Barrel | quol: if i bought the team shirts would you wear it? |
| 16:59.20 | Noodleman | Death_Barrel: you can open up a store for HoW like Tim did for bzflag at cafepress.com |
| 16:59.24 | Quol | DB: don't know - how would they look? |
| 16:59.32 | Noodleman | it's free, and you can even make money on the shirts |
| 17:00.08 | Nidhoggr | I should make a t-shirt that says "I've been blown to smithereens at bzflag.secretplace.us" |
| 17:00.19 | Noodleman | good idea :-) |
| 17:01.19 | Death_Barrel | cool |
| 17:01.23 | Death_Barrel | i will check into it |
| 17:01.57 | Death_Barrel | quol: they would have our team logo on the back and a bzflag logo on the front |
| 17:02.12 | Death_Barrel | probabally on a white t-shirt |
| 17:02.39 | Noodleman | all that cafepress can do is white, because of the way their printing process is |
| 17:02.47 | Death_Barrel | ah |
| 17:02.55 | Death_Barrel | do i have to give them a Credit Card? |
| 17:03.02 | Noodleman | kinda sucky if you ask me, but heck, it works most of the time :-) |
| 17:03.11 | Noodleman | i don't know about that |
| 17:03.27 | Death_Barrel | white is ok for me :) |
| 17:04.58 | Patlabor221 | what would be a crontab look like that ran every 5 min? |
| 17:05.18 | Noodleman | */5 * * * * |
| 17:05.27 | bomber | ~d |
| 17:05.44 | Patlabor221 | cool thanks |
| 17:05.50 | Noodleman | np |
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| 17:07.36 | Death_Barrel | ok cool, i made my shot>> http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels |
| 17:07.43 | Death_Barrel | it was free noodleman |
| 17:09.36 | Nidhoggr | it needs ART, mister barrel! |
| 17:09.47 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 17:12.11 | Death_Barrel | yes, give me a day...lol for god sakes i just opend a new business up |
| 17:12.11 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 17:12.19 | Death_Barrel | http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels |
| 17:12.21 | Death_Barrel | there |
| 17:12.23 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 17:14.54 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 17:15.03 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 17:16.00 | Noodleman | i've got an idea, although i can barely draw, and i don't have a scanner... |
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| 17:16.47 | Noodleman | do a little cartoon of a tank with a flamethrower and and a tank with the top half burnt off... |
| 17:17.21 | Noodleman | with a caption like, "my team got fried by Hell on Wheels" |
| 17:20.13 | Death_Barrel | i am just making a sample right now...just to see how it is done |
| 17:21.25 | Death_Barrel | http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels |
| 17:21.43 | Death_Barrel | hehe it is a start |
| 17:21.49 | Death_Barrel | ok time for lunch |
| 17:21.56 | Death_Barrel | see you guys in a little bit |
| 17:27.26 | Merry | bye all |
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| 17:34.35 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 17:34.48 | bomber | ~d |
| 17:40.57 | bomber | ~d |
| 17:44.10 | larsl | Noodleman: I think you'd have to pay other teams to wear that shirt. =) |
| 17:44.24 | Noodleman | haha |
| 17:44.29 | Noodleman | i'd wear it :-) |
| 17:58.53 | TimRiker | anyone done win* or mac releases yet? /me checks SF. |
| 17:59.35 | captain_proton | so, whats the tagline on this release? |
| 17:59.46 | captain_proton | "about damn time" ? :) |
| 18:00.00 | TimRiker | "break the world" is in the ChangeLog. ;-) |
| 18:00.47 | TimRiker | CVS is set to 1.10.0PRERELEASE. I'd like to get a few other platforms built and tested and then call it release. |
| 18:01.05 | TimRiker | I'm open to other taglines |
| 18:01.40 | Grumbler | Tank Revolution :) |
| 18:01.41 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 18:01.45 | captain_proton | where is scanline when you need him |
| 18:02.18 | Chestal | "Battle of the Zebras" |
| 18:02.19 | Grumbler | GunPowder Burns |
| 18:02.44 | larsl | TimRiker: Do you need any RPM builds? |
| 18:02.48 | Grumbler | Barrel Recoil in Horror |
| 18:03.43 | Grumbler | Steel Appepetite |
| 18:04.08 | Grumbler | Scared Ostrich |
| 18:05.42 | Grumbler | Steely-Eyed Quibbles |
| 18:06.07 | Grumbler | Burnt Umber |
| 18:06.31 | Grumbler | Steel Winter |
| 18:06.54 | Grumbler | Hot Steel Winter |
| 18:07.26 | Grumbler | Stolen Oak |
| 18:08.02 | Grumbler | IronWood Fire |
| 18:08.24 | Grumbler | The Morning After |
| 18:09.04 | Grumbler | Lady in Waiting |
| 18:09.31 | Grumbler | Forgiven Steel |
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| 18:09.45 | Nidhoggr | Hell -32 |
| 18:09.46 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 18:09.53 | Grumbler | Mud |
| 18:09.57 | Death_Barrel | back from lunch :- |
| 18:11.28 | Grumbler | Enlightened Frost |
| 18:11.46 | Grumbler | Enlightened Mud |
| 18:12.20 | Nidhoggr | :) |
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| 18:12.29 | captain_proton | "extra knee room for your extra knee" |
| 18:12.46 | Grumbler | :) |
| 18:13.30 | Nidhoggr | you can call it "my little pony"! |
| 18:13.48 | captain_proton | "oh, catherwood!" |
| 18:13.54 | Nidhoggr | or my little pony of doom and destruction :) |
| 18:14.35 | Nidhoggr | needs a monkey/banana theme to follow the last 2. |
| 18:14.41 | Grumbler | Smurf-er-ific |
| 18:14.59 | Grumbler | Monkey Smurf |
| 18:15.37 | Grumbler | Steel Monkey |
| 18:15.42 | captain_proton | drop-down ale masks |
| 18:15.46 | Grumbler | Iron Monkey |
| 18:16.04 | Grumbler | Iron Monkey Ale |
| 18:16.28 | Nidhoggr | Crouching banana, hidden monkey |
| 18:17.17 | Grumbler | Asian Banana of SARS |
| 18:17.30 | Nidhoggr | we can call it "flu shot" |
| 18:17.43 | Grumbler | monkey flu shot |
| 18:17.48 | Nidhoggr | perfect! |
| 18:18.02 | Death_Barrel | http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels |
| 18:18.10 | Death_Barrel | bye it now while you still can lol |
| 18:18.19 | Grumbler | .....although i prefer Enlightened Banana Mud |
| 18:18.27 | Nidhoggr | that's not bad |
| 18:19.30 | Grumbler | thinking... |
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| 18:21.17 | Grumbler | Broken Banana, Angry Monkey |
| 18:23.08 | larsl | Hungry monkey. |
| 18:23.57 | Grumbler | Iron Hungry Monkey |
| 18:24.17 | Grumbler | Broken Banana, Hungry Monkey |
| 18:24.39 | Grumbler | Broken Steel Banana, Hungry Iron Monkey |
| 18:25.07 | Grumbler | :) |
| 18:25.24 | Nidhoggr | Plenty of Plantains |
| 18:26.10 | Grumbler | Plantain Forest |
| 18:27.16 | Grumbler | Steel Peel |
| 18:27.24 | Nidhoggr | that's it! |
| 18:27.30 | Grumbler | hahah |
| 18:29.28 | TimRiker | larsl: test builds from the tarball would be good. want one to test with? ie: "make dist" and then "rpm -tb <.tar.gz>" |
| 18:30.07 | larsl | From current CVS? |
| 18:32.32 | larsl | And do you want me to put them somewhere, or just check that they build? |
| 18:46.03 | larsl | It builds on both Mandrake 9.0 and Mandrake 9.2. |
| 18:50.15 | Chestal | hmm, even with jumping off I can now respawn on top of a building |
| 18:50.28 | Chestal | is this intended? an oversight? good? bad? |
| 18:50.40 | scanline | captain_proton: CRM-114 |
| 18:52.18 | Tupone | that is from server respawn, code is simpler and it's not so safe for a player to drop in as it was on 1.7, we should adjust on the 1.11. |
| 18:52.20 | Grumbler | Chestal: does make for a safe spawn on a non-jumping world |
| 18:52.56 | larsl | I'd like a "nospawn" option for world objects, to tell the server that tanks are not allowed to spawn non top of this object. |
| 18:53.11 | Chestal | Grumbler: but you're on a position you could probably not reach by other means (of course that can happen in jumping worlds, too) |
| 18:53.19 | larsl | (But that has nothing to do with -j and spawning on buildings, of course). |
| 18:53.22 | Chestal | in 1.7 you never spawn on buildings, doyou? |
| 18:53.30 | Grumbler | correct |
| 18:53.38 | Chestal | is there an option to control this in 1.9? |
| 18:53.53 | Tupone | it is not wanted, but the easiest thing Mac did when providing server spawn |
| 18:53.57 | Grumbler | unless it is ctf with elevated bases, and then jumping was forced on by default |
| 18:53.58 | Tupone | no option |
| 18:54.06 | Chestal | there should be one |
| 18:54.15 | Chestal | IMHO it's important |
| 18:54.48 | Chestal | what's a good name for it, hmm |
| 18:55.08 | Chestal | -sb? inspired by -fb |
| 18:55.15 | larsl | -nodontspawnonbuildingsplease |
| 18:55.46 | Tupone | there is a more priority thing to do for spawning: server does not calculate a safe position |
| 18:55.51 | larsl | -sb sounds good. |
| 18:56.33 | Grumbler | sounds like superbullet option |
| 18:56.46 | larsl | Bah, people can read the manual. =) |
| 18:56.53 | Grumbler | hahah |
| 18:57.15 | Grumbler | is that the manual that comes out 4 months after the product release :) |
| 18:58.10 | larsl | I think the bzfs manual is up-to-date in CVS. |
| 19:01.07 | Chestal | getSpawnLocation() logic seems hosed |
| 19:01.39 | Chestal | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.39 | Chestal | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.41 | Chestal | hmmmm |
| 19:01.45 | Chestal | ah, hmm |
| 19:02.00 | Chestal | ok, not hosed, just strange :-) |
| 19:04.10 | larsl | Does it generate random points in 3D space and check if they are on top of a building, or am I not understanding it correctly? |
| 19:04.31 | captain_proton | larsl: random points in 2d space |
| 19:05.00 | larsl | Ah, yeah. |
| 19:05.09 | Chestal | no, 3D |
| 19:05.14 | TimRiker | mac/win build? |
| 19:05.24 | TimRiker | or even solaris/bsd/etc? |
| 19:05.26 | Chestal | when point is outside buildings, set z=0 |
| 19:05.43 | Chestal | if in building, set z to building top, iterate |
| 19:06.06 | Chestal | at the end you're on top of building stack. If top of it is pyramid or teleporter, start over |
| 19:06.14 | Chestal | TimRiker: this option of mine needs to get in :-) |
| 19:06.30 | TimRiker | the -nodontspawnonbuildingsplease switch? |
| 19:06.38 | Chestal | yep |
| 19:06.45 | Chestal | I think it is important for some servers |
| 19:07.15 | Grumbler | just the ducati style servers......who cares about those anyway :) |
| 19:07.17 | TimRiker | I'm not worried. it's only a server change, so admins that want it can upgrade when the feature is added. |
| 19:07.59 | Chestal | I could imagine there are jumping server where it is hard to get to some high position |
| 19:08.11 | Chestal | I don't think the map designers would like it when someone simply pop ups in that place |
| 19:08.28 | Tupone | without GM |
| 19:08.50 | larsl | It shouldn't break anything, it could just be an if statement and an early return from getSpawnLocation(). |
| 19:09.53 | Grumbler | ....all i changed was........ |
| 19:15.35 | Chestal | any hard feelings about the default for that option? |
| 19:16.41 | Grumbler | not from me, but i only have a 1/16 map maker vote |
| 19:18.46 | Tupone | I think default should be the old way |
| 19:19.10 | larsl | "Old" as current or "old" as 1.7? =) |
| 19:19.28 | Tupone | 1.7 |
| 19:26.57 | Nidhoggr | doesn't new code allow you to make objects solid or not? |
| 19:27.11 | Nidhoggr | release is good |
| 19:27.14 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:27.31 | Grumbler | especially after eating a lot of cheese |
| 19:27.33 | Chestal | wah, 5 minutes |
| 19:27.36 | Chestal | already testing |
| 19:27.43 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:28.03 | Nidhoggr | ooh.. I had some really good english cheddar over the weekend. |
| 19:28.09 | Nidhoggr | it was incredible. |
| 19:28.22 | Nidhoggr | not like crazy american yellow cheddarish food product. |
| 19:28.48 | larsl | Nidhoggr: It does. You can turn off collision for tanks and/or bullets. |
| 19:29.24 | Nidhoggr | cool! |
| 19:29.25 | Grumbler | mad cow cheese |
| 19:29.32 | Grumbler | hmmm, mad monkey cheese |
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| 19:30.01 | Grumbler | speak of the mad monkey |
| 19:33.28 | Chestal | my computer is too slow |
| 19:34.49 | Grumbler | thats my line, my computer is too slow, i spawn on buildings, my cheese is american.. :) j/k |
| 19:34.59 | brlcad | Tim: either myself or JB will take care of getting the Mac distribution put together tonight |
| 19:35.07 | brlcad | er, TimRiker ;) |
| 19:35.36 | brlcad | I'm also going to get up an installer for fink (mac os x install system based on debian's apt-get) |
| 19:39.03 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (3 files): new bzfs option -sb : spawn on buildings; default is not to do that just like it was in 1.7 |
| 19:39.56 | TimRiker | brlcad: times a wastin' |
| 19:40.18 | TimRiker | Chestal: tried ccache? ;-) |
| 19:40.23 | TimRiker | ~dinfo ccache |
| 19:40.30 | Nidhoggr | maybe you wouldn't grumble so much if you had REAL cheese. |
| 19:40.31 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 19:40.51 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/man (bzfs.6s): -sb in man page |
| 19:41.01 | larsl | TimRiker: Can't we release the tarball, RPM and DEB packages for real OSes first? =) |
| 19:41.12 | Chestal | what about the doc/xml/ files? Do I have to mess with them? |
| 19:41.31 | larsl | Chestal: They aren't really used yet, I think - at least not the manuals. |
| 19:41.37 | Chestal | TimRiker: uhm, never heard of it, what does it do exactly? |
| 19:42.02 | Chestal | larsl: just want to avoid any inconsistency |
| 19:43.24 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (ChangeLog): -sb |
| 19:43.39 | [dmp] | Chestal: I think this is the ccache tim mentions. http://ccache.samba.org/ "ccache is a compiler cache. It acts as a caching pre-processor to C/C++ compilers, using the -E compiler switch and a hash to detect when a compilation can be satisfied from cache. This often results in a 5 to 10 times speedup in common compilations." |
| 19:44.29 | Chestal | hmm |
| 19:45.42 | TimRiker | Chestal: xml is for future. it's in the tarball but not installed in the binary packages yet. |
| 19:45.55 | TimRiker | ~ccache |
| 19:45.57 | | from memory, ccache is a compiler cache that speeds up re-compilations of same sourcecodes where only some have different sourcefiles, see http://ccache.samba.org/ and also look for distcc |
| 19:46.44 | Chestal | 1.9/10 is a little slower for me than 1.7, not sure why. gfx hasn't really changed, so it must be things liek BZDB? |
| 19:46.45 | brlcad | TimRiker: i'll have it beforee midnight! :) |
| 19:47.00 | brlcad | if but for Mac's sake :) |
| 19:47.22 | Chestal | the drop in fps is acceptable, though. On my software rendering machine it's 74 instead of 80 fps on an empty map |
| 19:47.41 | Chestal | 13.epsilon instead of 14 when I face a big wall |
| 19:48.06 | brlcad | the fink stuff will take me a little more time, though, since I haven't set that up before -- but it looked straightforward enough to do |
| 19:48.50 | Chestal | the server side spawning is pure random, hmm |
| 19:48.58 | Chestal | I wonde rhow that will work out in real playing |
| 19:49.09 | brlcad | Chestal: with a 5-10% increase like that, it's likely to show up in a profile.. |
| 19:49.10 | Chestal | all attempts to be clever are gone, right? |
| 19:49.17 | larsl | Chestal: Probably OK on not-to-crowded servers. |
| 19:49.45 | Chestal | could be a problem, though |
| 19:49.56 | brlcad | [dmp]: distcc on what platform? |
| 19:49.58 | larsl | Chestal: It's just a stopgap. Now we can be clever in the future without breaking the protocol. |
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| 19:50.04 | Chestal | I already see the complaints about very near spawns |
| 19:50.21 | larsl | We get those with 1.7 when two tanks spawn at the same time. |
| 19:50.22 | Chestal | larsl: yes, but we want peopel to move over from 1.7 to 1.10 now, don't we? |
| 19:50.36 | Chestal | that one could be somewhat of a show stopper in some cases |
| 19:50.44 | [dmp] | brlcad: debian/intel |
| 19:50.57 | Chestal | of course we can improve that on the server side |
| 19:51.00 | Chestal | which is good |
| 19:51.16 | Chestal | larsl: yes, but rarely |
| 19:51.31 | Pimpinella | hi |
| 19:51.34 | brlcad | I wouldn't try to force the change over just yet.. perhaps with 1.10.2 |
| 19:51.46 | [dmp] | brlcad: tried it with david_v too - but i didnt have enough bandwidth to gain anything there |
| 19:52.02 | Pimpinella | if it helps i could offer to run also a server under 1.10 |
| 19:52.19 | Chestal | the list server is a little slow |
| 19:52.26 | Chestal | is that a problem of the hosting server? |
| 19:52.59 | Chestal | takes 2s |
| 19:53.13 | Tupone | is related to using perl and not mod_perl |
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| 19:53.36 | Death_Barrel | anyone here? |
| 19:53.38 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 19:54.21 | Tupone | Chestal: now we have 3 version of bzflist, 2 x php (MySQL/SQLite) 1 perl |
| 19:54.39 | larsl | How is the PHP version performing? |
| 19:54.49 | Death_Barrel | yes you can own your very own Official Hell On Wheels Clasic Thong right here>>> http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels |
| 19:54.50 | larsl | versions |
| 19:54.54 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 19:54.55 | Chestal | mysql? wow? Sounds a bit oversized :-) |
| 19:55.08 | Tupone | better, both save 2/3 sec |
| 19:55.59 | Chestal | well, it's not that important anyway |
| 19:56.18 | brlcad | Chestal: depending on some unknown criteria, I've seen the list server take from 1.5 s (min) to upwards 10+ s, usually around 2-3 though |
| 19:56.41 | Tupone | that is written in BUGS |
| 19:57.09 | Tupone | and saving, I remembered bad, is about 1.5 sec |
| 19:57.14 | Chestal | network latency is about 150ms for me, so it should be possible to do it in like 0.5s even with HTTP |
| 19:57.22 | brlcad | Tim was trying out the php one, but was having a variety of issues getting sqlite to build/install properly |
| 19:57.29 | Chestal | well, maybe 700ms |
| 19:59.16 | larsl | Is there perhaps some way to cache the output on the server, and invalidate the cache when a message is received from a bzfs server? |
| 19:59.27 | Grumbler | list server lag time is far more aggravating to me than bad spawns...... |
| 19:59.49 | Chestal | do you use the list that often? |
| 20:00.02 | Grumbler | jump around from server to server..... |
| 20:00.03 | Chestal | the 2s I observe right now are not good, but ok |
| 20:00.08 | brlcad | the list server lag wouldn't be _nearly_ so annoying if there was just some sort of status after like .5 s of no response |
| 20:00.12 | larsl | If you use the list more often than you die, you're really good. =) |
| 20:00.18 | TimRiker | brlcad: UTC? ;-) |
| 20:00.36 | Chestal | larsl: I don't understand your cachine question |
| 20:00.51 | Grumbler | death doesnt concern me, getting a quick game of bz in, does :) |
| 20:01.28 | larsl | Chestal: Instead of running the script, cache the latest output on the server and send it when someone wants the list. When an update is received that would change the list, invalidate the cache. |
| 20:01.42 | larsl | I haven't played much with web servers. |
| 20:01.58 | Chestal | larsl: I amnot sure that the db query is the performance problem |
| 20:02.48 | Chestal | the client could handle the lsit more clever |
| 20:02.58 | Chestal | it could retrieve the list in the background when you start the game |
| 20:03.06 | larsl | Chestal: That's a good idea. |
| 20:03.16 | TimRiker | db.bzflag.org is slower than the old bzfls at present. I'm working on it, and I'll speed it up later. let's get the release out and start the migration to the new code asap. |
| 20:03.42 | TimRiker | all these are good ideas. let's get this release out and then work on them. |
| 20:04.04 | Chestal | let's hope that the release will give us many more test players :-) |
| 20:04.38 | brlcad | did anyone tag? |
| 20:04.44 | larsl | Someone could always send a message to the Slashdot editors. =) |
| 20:04.59 | brlcad | larsl: eek |
| 20:05.44 | Chestal | TimRiker: do we replace 1.7 with 1.10 in Debian? |
| 20:07.04 | TimRiker | yes I did. |
| 20:14.37 | TimRiker | I have not tagged yet. it's still labeled prerelease |
| 20:28.07 | [dmp] | ~bbiab |
| 20:30.48 | Tupone | be back in a bunch? |
| 20:35.48 | [dmp] | sounds likely. |
| 20:36.12 | [dmp] | Only one i could think of was, Be back in a bzflag-release. But i guess i was influenzed by todays stopic :) |
| 20:40.27 | Tupone | is someone upgrading also gentoo bzflag release? |
| 20:41.23 | TimRiker | not yet. you signing up? |
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| 20:43.29 | brlcad | hola Ares_home |
| 20:44.11 | Tupone | Someone here should be already bzflag gentoo maintainer (I suppose). Don't know who is. |
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| 20:44.49 | brlcad | gentoo bzflag :) heh |
| 20:45.37 | Tupone | I'm too much a newbie to generate a package for that |
| 20:45.51 | brlcad | bah! |
| 20:46.07 | Grumbler | your more like a newbie++, compared to us lurkers |
| 20:46.08 | brlcad | I've never done one for fink, but I'm gonna :) |
| 20:46.47 | Tupone | newbie on gentoo!! I had that from a week |
| 20:46.54 | Tupone | s/from/since/ |
| 20:47.24 | brlcad | they should have docs that tell you how to do everything |
| 20:48.13 | Grumbler | shoulda, woulda, coulda |
| 20:48.44 | Grumbler | the best docs are those for products that have reached their end of life :) |
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| 20:59.57 | TimRiker | Chestal: so the switch works ok? |
| 21:03.16 | Nidhoggr | does this sound like bulding? |
| 21:03.17 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 21:04.06 | brlcad | TimRiker: my computer is very very quiet :) |
| 21:06.45 | Nidhoggr | I am SO excited! |
| 21:07.27 | Nidhoggr | I should test out spirals map in new server code, and make any adjustments. |
| 21:07.53 | Grumbler | nah, run BagCity :) |
| 21:09.05 | Nidhoggr | we can run bagcity on dragon.org :) |
| 21:09.09 | Nidhoggr | one of the rotation maps. |
| 21:09.19 | Nidhoggr | I also want to rotate games on dragon.org.. do some rabbit hunt. |
| 21:09.20 | Nidhoggr | etc. |
| 21:10.31 | Grumbler | haha, i like rotating servers(so long as they rotate slowly......not too slow......grumble, grumble, grumble) |
| 21:10.40 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 21:10.43 | Nidhoggr | maybe 3 hours? |
| 21:10.50 | Grumbler | 6 |
| 21:10.57 | Grumbler | :) |
| 21:11.09 | Nidhoggr | people have too short of an attention span for 6 hours. :) |
| 21:11.29 | Grumbler | you have never seen how long some people stay on secretplace |
| 21:11.39 | Grumbler | .cough.cough, me included |
| 21:12.05 | Nidhoggr | some people are good at that. |
| 21:12.14 | Nidhoggr | harmless |
| 21:12.18 | Nidhoggr | got 1000 points |
| 21:12.34 | Grumbler | yeah, he gets laser and camps on the transporters..... |
| 21:12.35 | Nidhoggr | and ended up getting kicked off for pausing for a really long time. |
| 21:12.36 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 21:12.49 | Nidhoggr | afk for a few. taking pics of them putting in manhole vaults for oc58 |
| 21:12.53 | Nidhoggr | 48 |
| 21:13.20 | Grumbler | go man, go |
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| 21:39.26 | Nidhoggr | ack. |
| 21:39.46 | Nidhoggr | construction people came --> <-- this close to backhoeing our fiber. |
| 21:39.47 | brlcad | If someone can make a cool BZ screenshot, I'll include it in the graphical OS X installer :) |
| 21:45.30 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
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| 21:45.30 | Nidhoggr | I would if I was at the right computer. |
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| 21:45.31 | awox | Any Australians around? |
| 21:46.05 | brlcad | Nidhoggr, I won't put it together for another 5 hours or so, so you have plenty of time still :) |
| 21:48.27 | david_v | Chestal: Fortix-TeX 3-2 |
| 21:49.51 | Chestal | quite close |
| 21:50.08 | brlcad | Bet that was a good match, eh david? |
| 21:50.19 | brlcad | TeX must be getting much better quickly.. |
| 21:50.35 | brlcad | or fortix was just off their game today :) |
| 21:52.20 | david_v | hmm |
| 21:52.20 | david_v | both |
| 21:52.30 | david_v | they seemed quite good, it was laggy, and, i sucked :) |
| 21:52.46 | david_v | baaaadly. i haven't been playing much because i've been focusing on my studies (shame on me :) |
| 21:52.49 | brlcad | david_v: sorry I couldn't be there to match you then.. :) |
| 21:53.22 | david_v | hmpf ;) |
| 21:53.35 | david_v | i don't mind :) |
| 21:53.58 | brlcad | oh yea.. that shot of daBomb exploding on fortix website was pretty good too :) |
| 21:54.00 | Nidhoggr | brlcad, let me see if I can. |
| 21:54.02 | brlcad | could use that |
| 21:54.09 | Nidhoggr | I have appt after work (to make soap) |
| 21:54.10 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:54.12 | brlcad | or I'll wait for nid :) |
| 21:54.15 | Nidhoggr | but I might be able to before. |
| 21:54.26 | david_v | brlcad: hey, it's copyrighted, mind you ;) |
| 21:54.37 | brlcad | There are like four places I can shove images, so there's plenty of room for creativity :) |
| 21:54.38 | Nidhoggr | how can I make screen shot on mac? |
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| 21:54.48 | Nidhoggr | I could do it on PC easy. |
| 21:54.48 | brlcad | david_v: awwwwwwww |
| 21:54.52 | david_v | the more Fortix parts there is on a screenshot, the more illegal it is to copy it :) |
| 21:54.58 | Nidhoggr | I can call and have scipio do it on PC. |
| 21:55.01 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: eep |
| 21:55.04 | brlcad | you can't on the mac |
| 21:55.10 | david_v | i dunno if Bomb really liked to have the shot there... heheh |
| 21:55.12 | Nidhoggr | I can have scipio do on PC right now. |
| 21:55.17 | brlcad | the client isn't set up to sync with the display for capture purposes |
| 21:55.17 | Nidhoggr | what sorta pic you want? |
| 21:55.34 | brlcad | you "can" capture a screenshot, on os x, but it'll be all messed up |
| 21:55.40 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 21:55.46 | Nidhoggr | I can do on pc.. just tell me what you want |
| 21:55.57 | brlcad | anything that'll look cool during an install |
| 21:56.04 | Nidhoggr | okie. some battle action? |
| 21:56.16 | brlcad | yea, battle, scenery, shiny tanks, etc |
| 21:56.22 | david_v | i did a little screenshot capture script :) |
| 21:56.31 | brlcad | glowing shots, laser, and gm are always good |
| 21:56.36 | david_v | press a key combination and bomp, stored neatly in a folder |
| 21:56.57 | brlcad | BZ is supposed to have a built-in screenshot command, but I've yet to test it |
| 21:57.09 | brlcad | s/command/ability |
| 21:57.36 | Nidhoggr | scipio is going to do it now. |
| 21:58.07 | Nidhoggr | he's good like that. |
| 21:58.35 | brlcad | is scipio == c3po? |
| 21:58.40 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 21:58.43 | brlcad | heh, k |
| 21:58.45 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:58.49 | david_v | brlcad: if you want that shot, ask daBomb. i don't know if he likes having his tank exploited :) |
| 21:59.07 | brlcad | All names would be erased to protect the innocent :) |
| 21:59.07 | david_v | i just put it up because i didn't have anything else hehe |
| 21:59.15 | david_v | aha :) |
| 21:59.51 | brlcad | you can tell him I've been sharing his copyrighted kitty all over the office .. :) people like it |
| 22:00.11 | david_v | i saw it on someone's desktop the other day heh |
| 22:00.27 | david_v | don't remember where... but i suppose daBomb got it from elsewhere |
| 22:00.31 | Nidhoggr | hrm. one of our customers complaining because we spanked them for spam. |
| 22:00.38 | david_v | heh |
| 22:00.46 | Nidhoggr | basically admitted they got circuit to spam |
| 22:02.55 | Nidhoggr | Tue Dec 9 15:02:42 2003 Scipio(68.99.227.92) Joined the server. |
| 22:02.57 | Nidhoggr | there he goes |
| 22:03.01 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 22:03.55 | awox | ffs |
| 22:04.03 | awox | I got kicked off a server for having lag. Big deal. Meh. |
| 22:04.23 | awox | Should work in auto ban on teammate kill. |
| 22:04.41 | awox | Some asshole is in there using the big shield thingy right next to his team. |
| 22:05.06 | Nidhoggr | what sort of big shield thingy? |
| 22:05.44 | david_v | shockwave |
| 22:05.49 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 22:07.30 | brlcad | awox, there already is autokick on excessive team killing |
| 22:08.02 | brlcad | but it certainly doesn't work optimally |
| 22:08.25 | brlcad | needs to be x % in X seconds, but I think it's a percentage |
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| 22:22.08 | Bagheera | big circle thingy = SW ? |
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| 22:34.26 | Death_Barrel | hey guys :) |
| 22:34.33 | Death_Barrel | you here noodleman? |
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| 22:37.03 | corndawg | hey all |
| 22:41.14 | Death_Barrel | hi |
| 22:41.34 | corndawg | hi Death_Barrel |
| 22:43.53 | corndawg | hum |
| 22:44.02 | corndawg | christ this is gonna be a pain in the ass |
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| 22:48.11 | corndawg | hey Patlabor221 |
| 22:48.23 | corndawg | Patlabor221, mind if i msg ya for a sec? got a quick ? for ya |
| 22:48.24 | Patlabor221 | hey anyone know where I would go to set max_allowed_packet for mysql ? |
| 22:48.26 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 22:48.29 | corndawg | k |
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| 22:51.09 | Grumbler | gosh, actually did a cvs checkout, and the make scripts are working......i SEE progress |
| 22:53.53 | Nidhoggr | brlcad, I am in meeting, so if scipio gets done with screenshots, i told him to come to irc.openprojects.org and /msg you. |
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| 22:54.26 | Death_Barrel | hey guys |
| 22:54.33 | Tupone | Patlabor221: /etc/mysql/my.cnf or something like that |
| 22:54.33 | Death_Barrel | my HoW team store is up |
| 22:54.39 | Death_Barrel | it is really funny |
| 22:54.39 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 22:54.54 | Patlabor221 | if it dosn't have that variable in iut, can I normaly just add it? |
| 22:55.01 | Death_Barrel | http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels |
| 22:55.08 | Death_Barrel | brb |
| 22:55.09 | Tupone | what is iut? |
| 22:55.17 | Patlabor221 | sorry it |
| 22:55.17 | Death_Barrel | u talking to me? |
| 22:55.20 | Patlabor221 | the variable |
| 22:55.22 | Death_Barrel | ah |
| 22:55.23 | Death_Barrel | nvm |
| 22:55.30 | Patlabor221 | max_allowed_packet |
| 22:56.02 | Tupone | did you have a section called mysqld |
| 22:56.24 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:56.29 | Patlabor221 | I added it to there |
| 22:56.30 | Tupone | set-variable = max_allowed_packet=1M |
| 22:56.38 | Tupone | yeah |
| 22:56.39 | Patlabor221 | ahh cool thanks |
| 22:57.40 | Patlabor221 | seems our helpdesk software wants it set to 1M for large mail atachments |
| 22:58.16 | Tupone | I C that is the default gentoo configuration |
| 22:58.36 | Patlabor221 | seems it's not on RH9 |
| 22:58.50 | Tupone | lemme check |
| 22:59.07 | Patlabor221 | this is what the help desk support people told us |
| 22:59.28 | Tupone | I don't have anymore on RedHat |
| 22:59.50 | Patlabor221 | well I set it, we'll see how it goes, thanks :) |
| 23:00.50 | Tupone | you should also set that on [mysqldump] if you wanna make database dump (?) |
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| 23:06.24 | Death_Barrel | hi rembo :) |
| 23:07.26 | rembo | hi |
| 23:08.27 | Nidhoggr | brlcad http://www.dragon.org/chris/bzflag |
| 23:08.33 | Nidhoggr | there are 4 screen shots there. |
| 23:08.36 | Nidhoggr | in .tif format. |
| 23:08.43 | Nidhoggr | number 3 rules |
| 23:08.45 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:10.12 | Nidhoggr | gm inna face |
| 23:10.14 | Death_Barrel | hi nidhoggr |
| 23:10.20 | Death_Barrel | got my shop up and running :D |
| 23:10.22 | Nidhoggr | hi barrel |
| 23:10.22 | Death_Barrel | http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels |
| 23:10.25 | Nidhoggr | yay! |
| 23:10.33 | Nidhoggr | I'll have to look after my meeting. |
| 23:10.34 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:10.38 | Death_Barrel | take a look at the Official HoW thong :D |
| 23:10.42 | Death_Barrel | oki :D |
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| 23:10.44 | Nidhoggr | meeting continues at bar across street. |
| 23:10.48 | Nidhoggr | shkoo! |
| 23:10.51 | Death_Barrel | nice! |
| 23:10.51 | shkoo | hi |
| 23:10.53 | Death_Barrel | sweet! |
| 23:11.01 | Nidhoggr | shkoo, everyone, everyone shkoo |
| 23:11.05 | Nidhoggr | shkoo=vicious |
| 23:11.13 | Nidhoggr | who did our server mods on secretplace |
| 23:13.55 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: thanks! :) I think I can make use of one of them |
| 23:13.59 | Patlabor221 | so when you commit ritual suicide,it's up the left? or left then up? |
| 23:14.08 | Nidhoggr | cool, brlcad :) |
| 23:14.13 | Nidhoggr | I'll let scipio know |
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| 23:14.18 | brlcad | if you can get one with a better closeup of a tank, though.. that'd be better still :) |
| 23:14.41 | brlcad | like GM just about to hit a tank, for example |
| 23:14.57 | brlcad | or laser destroying a tank from observer up above |
| 23:15.00 | Nidhoggr | we could go crazy if we had time. |
| 23:15.04 | brlcad | :) |
| 23:15.04 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 23:15.05 | brlcad | i know |
| 23:15.11 | Nidhoggr | we'll play some more. |
| 23:15.19 | brlcad | no big deal.. what you have is good too, if you don'thave time |
| 23:15.28 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 23:15.30 | brlcad | like I said, I can make one or two of them work :) |
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| 23:19.17 | TimRiker | ~nslookup 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097.org |
| 23:19.47 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 23:20.12 | Death_Barrel | lmao |
| 23:20.41 | TimRiker | .com is available. |
| 23:21.14 | Death_Barrel | hehe |
| 23:21.16 | Death_Barrel | funny |
| 23:22.34 | TimRiker | http://reports.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois?whois_nic=14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097.org&type=domain |
| 23:23.49 | Death_Barrel | here tim >> http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels check out the official HoW thong |
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| 23:24.48 | Death_Barrel | http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels.8897442 |
| 23:24.50 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 23:25.31 | Death_Barrel | tim riker: you live in Texas right? |
| 23:26.23 | TimRiker | Death_Barrel: the bib cracks me up. ;-) |
| 23:26.26 | Death_Barrel | hehe |
| 23:26.31 | Death_Barrel | i like the thong |
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| 23:30.02 | KR | m00 |
| 23:30.41 | Noodleman | m00f0rz |
| 23:31.19 | Death_Barrel | hey KR |
| 23:31.28 | Death_Barrel | KR check my official HoW store out |
| 23:31.33 | Death_Barrel | http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels |
| 23:31.40 | Death_Barrel | and the thong especially |
| 23:31.41 | Death_Barrel | http://www.cafeshops.com/hellonwheels.8897442 |
| 23:32.21 | Noodleman | we got a release yet? |
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| 23:34.29 | Death_Barrel | blasted proxy!!! |
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| 23:35.04 | Death_Barrel | cu guys need to get home |
| 23:35.19 | Death_Barrel | i will be avilable for matches tonight !! :D |
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| 23:41.50 | corndawg | re Patlabor222 |
| 23:41.56 | corndawg | hey Noodleman |
| 23:42.00 | Noodleman | do we have a release? |
| 23:42.03 | Noodleman | hey corndawg |
| 23:42.06 | Noodleman | whazzup? |
| 23:42.11 | corndawg | notta |
| 23:42.14 | corndawg | workin on a new map' |
| 23:42.42 | Nidhoggr | oops |
| 23:42.48 | Noodleman | i should just have a bot ask that everytime a dev joins or says anything :-) |
| 23:42.53 | Nidhoggr | w00 |
| 23:42.58 | Noodleman | haha |
| 23:43.01 | corndawg | lol |
| 23:43.05 | Noodleman | Nidhoggr == busted |
| 23:43.21 | Nidhoggr | the beer was sam adams christmas beer |
| 23:43.28 | Nidhoggr | it was part of gift exchange :) |
| 23:44.12 | Noodleman | "i'll give you some beer if you give me some beer" |
| 23:44.24 | Nidhoggr | I still have 21 bottles left. |
| 23:44.24 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:45.15 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 23:45.33 | Noodleman | i've never had beer, underage |
| 23:45.40 | Noodleman | i hear it tastes putrid :-) |
| 23:45.41 | Nidhoggr | snort |
| 23:46.02 | Noodleman | is it an acquired taste? |
| 23:46.31 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 23:46.41 | Nidhoggr | it depends on the beer, though. |
| 23:46.59 | Noodleman | i'm sure beer from a can is nasty |
| 23:47.16 | Noodleman | even soda in a bottle is better than from a can |
| 23:47.30 | Tupone | Noodleman: we are having a release, just waiting to have a build for each platform IMHO |
| 23:47.40 | Noodleman | coolage :-) |
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| 23:50.45 | Nidhoggr | these are all bottles.. except the 3 that broke. |
| 23:50.46 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:51.29 | Noodleman | "i only drink beer from the rug, it has a nice twinge to it" |
| 23:53.50 | Grumbler | so, after i have built this puppy, anybody know where the executables are......no bin directory |
| 23:54.04 | Tupone | src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 23:54.27 | Grumbler | thnx |
| 23:54.31 | Tupone | but if you make install, they will be put on system directory |
| 23:55.27 | Grumbler | ok, onto trial |
| 23:57.47 | corndawg | phew basic outline done finally |
| 23:58.50 | Grumbler | -mo switch has been removed i guess |
| 23:59.49 | Grumbler | and she is up and running....... |