| 00:05.00 | *** join/#bzflag trepan (~trepan@CPE0040f42db082-CM00e06f15f704.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:07.59 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): Problem walking on flipped pyramids |
| 00:09.49 | learner | what does/did chris play as? |
| 00:09.59 | orchid | badger |
| 00:11.07 | Patlabor221 | tanks can walk? |
| 00:11.24 | learner | did he waddle? |
| 00:11.28 | JBdiGriz | These are the new arthopod tanks. |
| 00:11.38 | Patlabor221 | spider tank |
| 00:11.46 | Patlabor221 | like the one from GITS |
| 00:15.18 | trepan | Patlabor221: any chance to make the size[2] parameter in maps backwards compatible for 1.10? (keeping flipz the way it is) |
| 00:15.40 | Patlabor221 | it's not compatable? |
| 00:16.07 | Patlabor221 | onn you mean moving them down? |
| 00:16.09 | Patlabor221 | I'd rather not |
| 00:16.15 | Patlabor221 | as the old way wasn't really right |
| 00:16.41 | Patlabor221 | if anything I'd make a utiliy that looked for negitive scales and fixed them adding the proper flip flags, and positions |
| 00:16.55 | Patlabor221 | and set drive thru and shoot thru |
| 00:16.57 | Patlabor221 | and all that |
| 00:17.02 | Patlabor221 | to kinda "update" old maps |
| 00:17.14 | trepan | i've got that written |
| 00:17.36 | trepan | but flipz is basically an extraneous keyword |
| 00:17.47 | trepan | an backwards compatibility is easy to achieve |
| 00:18.01 | Patlabor221 | yes it is, cus Tim wanted the neg scale to triger it too |
| 00:18.07 | Patlabor221 | I personaly don't like neg scale |
| 00:18.13 | Patlabor221 | as it implies a difrent transformation |
| 00:18.18 | Patlabor221 | then what is happening now |
| 00:18.30 | trepan | all i'm asking is that if the negative scale triggers, shift the position to the way that it used to be |
| 00:18.32 | Patlabor221 | but hey do what ever you want |
| 00:18.39 | Patlabor221 | sure, code it on up |
| 00:18.51 | Patlabor221 | it's not my call |
| 00:19.10 | Patlabor221 | it woudl be easy to do right in the server |
| 00:20.57 | trepan | ok, will do |
| 00:21.57 | learner | howdy again trepan |
| 00:22.47 | trepan | hi learner, fun game |
| 00:22.53 | learner | fun for you :P |
| 00:22.58 | learner | j/k it was fun |
| 00:23.09 | JBdiGriz | it was fun being a fly on learner's shoulder in that game. :) |
| 00:23.14 | learner | that's a different map style than I'm used to completely |
| 00:23.55 | trepan | ya, i wrote it for 1 vs. 1 playing |
| 00:23.59 | learner | I can hold my own on ducati and xmission, but that's a different map still -- part of the problem being my client's performance :/ |
| 00:24.27 | trepan | what kinda FPS you getting there? |
| 00:24.29 | JBdiGriz | that map is too friendly to sb and st, especially in a 1 v 1 |
| 00:25.34 | trepan | i just dropped in my standard flags, regrettably not enough thought as to gameplay |
| 00:26.29 | JBdiGriz | i noticed several people picked up cl, which would be mostly useless inside the arena. |
| 00:27.13 | learner | it's showing me between 10-15 fps as observer, so make a guess ;) |
| 00:27.26 | trepan | so is L, it's a suicide toy in there |
| 00:27.38 | trepan | learner: ouch |
| 00:27.52 | trepan | L does make for a neat light show though |
| 00:27.58 | learner | heh |
| 00:28.13 | learner | oh, trepan.. I left you a /report |
| 00:28.54 | JBdiGriz | I didn't see anyone with L, but I would drop it quickly anywhere around that map. :) |
| 00:29.01 | learner | might want to consider designating some admins. I've seen a handful of cheaters pop up of the past couple days already with nobody around to fix |
| 00:29.32 | trepan | want the job? |
| 00:30.07 | JBdiGriz | Anyone who wants the job of admin, is the wrong person for it. :) |
| 00:30.20 | trepan | touchee |
| 00:30.26 | learner | heh, true. "want" is the wrong word :) |
| 00:30.53 | learner | at least let one or two in here know so they can hop on and give the boot if need be |
| 00:31.05 | learner | or regulars on the map, even better |
| 00:32.07 | trepan | there are few regulars, it's a tiny/crappy server |
| 00:32.22 | trepan | that's why the 5 player limit |
| 00:32.59 | learner | is that server not near you? |
| 00:32.59 | trepan | i'd much prefer to have someone else host the map on a better server |
| 00:33.12 | learner | I noticed that you had a 60ms lag even |
| 00:33.23 | trepan | yup, about 4" away, my home machine, cable connection |
| 00:33.28 | JBdiGriz | Check with quol, he hosts some nice maps |
| 00:33.49 | learner | odd. that's a high lag for a local net connection |
| 00:34.25 | trepan | local net = same machine |
| 00:34.39 | JBdiGriz | what sort of time do you get if you ping yourself? |
| 00:35.04 | trepan | 0.0 ms |
| 00:35.22 | learner | what do lagstats tell you when you play? |
| 00:35.58 | trepan | 59ms |
| 00:36.21 | trepan | are the pckts getting buffered somewhere? |
| 00:36.50 | learner | that's too high.. is the server loaded? |
| 00:36.52 | JBdiGriz | Do you connect to localhost, or the imajica.dyndns.com name? |
| 00:37.14 | trepan | nope, not loaded at all |
| 00:37.36 | trepan | JBdiGriz: connect both ways, both the same result |
| 00:38.28 | JBdiGriz | That's what I would expect, but the lag isn't what I would expect. |
| 00:39.16 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (bryjen@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net) |
| 00:39.27 | bryjen | ~bzfquery xmission.bzflag.rog |
| 00:39.39 | bryjen | ~bzfquery xmission.bzflag.org |
| 00:39.56 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 00:40.35 | learner | something is fishy |
| 00:41.01 | trepan | yall see ~0.0ms when you connect local? |
| 00:42.20 | JBdiGriz | As an example, if i start bzfs on my internal server, and connect from my mac, I see 2ms lag |
| 00:43.03 | JBdiGriz | ping time is 0.45 ms |
| 00:43.12 | learner | yes, it should be at least < 10ms on a localhost connection, even a local net connection should be close to that |
| 00:43.36 | learner | for bzfs, that is |
| 00:43.59 | trepan | beats me... standard bzfs1.7g2 running on linux |
| 00:44.12 | trepan | standard client too |
| 00:44.27 | learner | oh, what's your cpu utilization when the client is running? |
| 00:44.38 | trepan | 100% |
| 00:44.45 | learner | ah, that could be it |
| 00:44.48 | trepan | is there any other way? |
| 00:45.02 | learner | you're overloaded like I am |
| 00:45.49 | trepan | bzflag always runs at 100%, doesn't it? |
| 00:46.45 | learner | not on my dual :) |
| 00:46.53 | learner | but that's bz's fault :) |
| 00:47.58 | trepan | the other thing is that I usually run 100+ FPS, so it won't be the 10ms frame delays |
| 00:50.05 | learner | hrm. *shrug* |
| 00:51.00 | trepan | heh, i won't worry about it today ;) |
| 00:53.20 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-132-29.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 00:56.42 | Tupone | hi learner, do you know about map with flipped pyramid? that you can walk on? |
| 00:59.43 | learner | yea.. the one you made on mac's playground :) |
| 01:00.08 | learner | it'd be nice if I got my servers back up and running,eh? |
| 01:00.47 | Tupone | as you see, I found a new bug. |
| 01:01.10 | Tupone | I 'd like to know if we can leave or must solve .... |
| 01:01.28 | learner | what was the bug? I didn't see it. |
| 01:01.52 | Tupone | If you got a flipped pyramid you cannot "walk" on |
| 01:02.03 | Tupone | you get stucked! |
| 01:02.32 | learner | eep |
| 01:03.28 | Tupone | problem is still computing the normal, I need another information to compute that: the direction of movement |
| 01:04.08 | Tupone | 'cause if I fix the normal computing at the bottom, I get a problem sliding a the pyramids :) |
| 01:08.01 | bryjen | ~bzfquery xmission.bzflag.org |
| 01:11.01 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-96-102.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 01:11.29 | JBdiGriz | What is the number in parens after the lag from the command lagstats? |
| 01:18.01 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-96-102.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 01:18.07 | learner | luke, use the source |
| 01:19.24 | Tupone | g'nite |
| 01:19.50 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-96-102.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 01:23.58 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): fixed sf bug 848616, where -team was always getting assigned to automatic |
| 01:57.12 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
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| 03:15.00 | learner | how do you set variables in the world file? |
| 03:15.10 | learner | or via the config file even? |
| 03:18.06 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-67-115-247-41.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 03:18.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 03:23.10 | Patlabor221 | anyone have any OS sugestions for list.bakadigital.com and update.bakadigital.com ? |
| 03:40.04 | Patlabor221 | guesw windows XP it is |
| 03:44.51 | *** join/#bzflag TheCat (TCat@CPE0050eb371cb8-CM00e06f1786ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:45.01 | TheCat | hey all |
| 03:45.03 | TheCat | Quol you there? |
| 03:45.42 | TheCat | ... |
| 03:45.45 | TheCat | its so |
| 03:45.52 | TheCat | btw sorry, if an ad comes up |
| 03:45.53 | TheCat | 12,00Type:04,00 @TheCat 12,00For My List Of:04,00 183 12,00Files14,00 • 12,00Slots:04,00 2/214,00 • 12,00Queued:04,00 014,00 • 12,00Speed:04,00 0cps14,00 • 12,00Next: 04,00NOW14,00 • 12,00Served:04,00 3314,00 • 12,00List: 04,00Nov 24th14,00 • 12,00Search: 04,00ON14,00 • 12,00Mode: 04,00Servers Priority14,00 • |
| 03:45.54 | TheCat | not my fault |
| 03:46.24 | captain_proton | TheCat: please use a different client if you can't suppress your file server on this one |
| 03:46.25 | Patlabor221 | how can that be not your fault? |
| 03:46.37 | TheCat | lol sorry |
| 03:46.44 | TheCat | the server I'm on |
| 03:46.53 | TheCat | thats the only one that can be used there |
| 03:47.22 | Patlabor221 | the server dosnt' make you send that |
| 03:47.26 | Patlabor221 | it has to be your client |
| 03:48.55 | TheCat | nm man |
| 03:48.56 | TheCat | nm |
| 03:49.15 | TheCat | ah well |
| 03:49.17 | TheCat | I'm out |
| 03:49.18 | TheCat | cu ppl |
| 03:50.17 | Patlabor221 | who the hell was that? |
| 03:53.39 | Patlabor221 | yay a functional CDRom drive, finaly |
| 03:53.47 | Patlabor221 | only had to try 5 of em |
| 03:57.47 | learner | any hints on how to set vars inside the world file and why -c might not actually make the game ctf-style? |
| 03:58.31 | Patlabor221 | if there are not bases |
| 03:58.38 | learner | there are bases |
| 03:58.55 | Patlabor221 | is it 2 team or 4 team? |
| 03:59.03 | learner | it's actually a random ctf map saved with SAVEWORLD |
| 03:59.06 | learner | it's 4 team |
| 03:59.16 | Patlabor221 | then it should have all the stuff |
| 03:59.23 | *** join/#bzflag ski (ski@pool-141-158-75-109.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:59.28 | Patlabor221 | unless you don't allow flags on boxes |
| 03:59.31 | learner | yet when I specify the map, it's not ctf |
| 03:59.32 | ski | nhi all |
| 03:59.42 | learner | hrm.. maybe |
| 03:59.52 | ski | quol, you here? |
| 04:00.59 | Patlabor221 | there should be an error in the log |
| 04:01.16 | Patlabor221 | I think you have to do -c and -fb |
| 04:01.29 | captain_proton | only need -fb if the bases are raised |
| 04:01.41 | captain_proton | and even then, it doesn't drop the -c, it sets z=0 on the bases |
| 04:01.50 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 04:01.56 | Patlabor221 | then it should work |
| 04:02.03 | learner | hrm, i had -fb and it didn't worrk |
| 04:02.10 | learner | took it out, and it still doesn't work |
| 04:02.25 | Patlabor221 | and no errors? |
| 04:02.28 | learner | bases are not raised |
| 04:02.38 | learner | nope |
| 04:13.35 | learner | wow.. can someone connect to the 1.9 test server and tell me what happens to your client? |
| 04:13.46 | bryjen | I was just there |
| 04:13.51 | learner | try driving around and shooting |
| 04:14.06 | learner | try again, just reset server |
| 04:14.28 | bryjen | the empty map ('cept for the 10 bazillion flags) ? |
| 04:14.39 | JBdiGriz | it just exitted for me |
| 04:15.28 | *** join/#bzflag Gen_Rommel (~gene@24-193-121-211.nj.rr.com) |
| 04:15.42 | JBdiGriz | *** malloc: vm_allocate(size=1610616832) failed (error code=3) |
| 04:15.42 | JBdiGriz | *** malloc[680]: error: Can't allocate region |
| 04:16.26 | trepan | locked me up, had to close Xwindows :( |
| 04:20.16 | learner | that is jacked |
| 04:20.30 | learner | major client whackyness |
| 04:20.37 | trepan | You have a Inf or Nan value in your map? |
| 04:20.40 | learner | ogl goes berzerk |
| 04:20.48 | trepan | that definitely causes that kind of prob. for me |
| 04:20.50 | learner | nope |
| 04:20.56 | bryjen | many many flags |
| 04:21.00 | learner | i did add -worldsize 4000 |
| 04:21.20 | learner | I use that flag setting elsewhere, it's just -f good{10} |
| 04:21.29 | learner | but worldsize was set to a trillion |
| 04:21.46 | Gen_Rommel | anyone here running server on linux? |
| 04:21.47 | learner | if I checked via /set |
| 04:21.49 | bryjen | ok. was just the obvious large parameter |
| 04:21.57 | trepan | Gen_Rommel: yup |
| 04:22.08 | Patlabor221 | most servers run on linux |
| 04:22.32 | bryjen | except those OSX wierdos ;) |
| 04:22.39 | learner | :) |
| 04:22.43 | Gen_Rommel | trepan: I have portsentry running and everytime there's a portscan, my system slows down noticeably for ~2secs - is that portsentry of ipchains? |
| 04:22.51 | Patlabor221 | yeah, all 2 of ya :) |
| 04:22.53 | JBdiGriz | and a few M$ weirdos as well. ;) |
| 04:23.01 | Patlabor221 | all 1 of us |
| 04:24.37 | trepan | Gen_Rommel: sorry, don't know. don't use either of them |
| 04:24.49 | trepan | Gen_Rommel: is it your machine (CPU load), or your networking that slows down? |
| 04:26.12 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor2221 (~JeffM@adsl-67-115-246-129.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 04:26.21 | Patlabor2221 | wheee :) |
| 04:26.28 | JBdiGriz | now there's 2 of you |
| 04:26.48 | bryjen | or is that 2000 |
| 04:27.19 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 04:27.37 | patlabor221 | had to add some routes to my router, so it needed a reboot |
| 04:28.16 | bryjen | eek. that's said. did you have to hand-carve the entries into it? ;) |
| 04:28.24 | bryjen | sad even |
| 04:29.15 | JBdiGriz | updating my sources and compiling reveals a small error in the addition of the automatic argument |
| 04:29.27 | Gen_Rommel | trepan: I can only see it visibly because bzflag slows down :-) |
| 04:29.55 | Gen_Rommel | trepan: and then there's a beep in my portscan mailbox |
| 04:31.07 | JBdiGriz | It seems that someone logging in as brlcad has a hard time checking his work before checking in changes :) |
| 04:33.20 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-67-115-246-129.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 04:33.20 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 04:33.33 | bryjen | boing! |
| 04:33.43 | trepan | Gen_Rommel: 1. how many portscan's are you getting? 2. It might just be that the portscan is eatting up your connection bandwidth, causing "lag" in bzflag |
| 04:34.33 | Gen_Rommel | trepan: being on cablemodem i get about 2 portscans/hour |
| 04:34.50 | Gen_Rommel | mostly trivial: ports 80, 901, 21 |
| 04:35.35 | trepan | Gen_Rommel: easy question, notice your CPU level spike during portscans when you're not running bzflag? |
| 04:37.42 | JBdiGriz | Hmmm, it doesn't look like we're getting messages from commits anymore. Did CIA get fixed? |
| 04:38.01 | Patlabor221 | why is guu not picking them up? |
| 04:38.19 | JBdiGriz | We turned it off because CIA was channeling them here so we got them twice. |
| 04:38.31 | Patlabor221 | it may have restarted |
| 04:38.39 | Patlabor221 | that probably would have fixed it |
| 04:38.48 | JBdiGriz | I can turn on guu again if we want it. |
| 04:38.58 | Patlabor221 | ja |
| 04:39.35 | bryjen | i see a message from CIA ~3 hours ago |
| 04:39.49 | JBdiGriz | I just committed a change 2 minutes ago. |
| 04:40.17 | bryjen | could be just you ;) |
| 04:40.25 | bryjen | ~nickometer JBdiGriz |
| 04:40.25 | | 'JBdiGriz' is 59.000% lame, bryjen |
| 04:40.38 | bryjen | wow. more than i expected. |
| 04:41.01 | JBdiGriz | could be. |
| 04:46.20 | trepan | gotta try that |
| 04:46.29 | trepan | ~nickometer trepan |
| 04:46.29 | | 'trepan' is 0.000% lame, trepan |
| 04:47.37 | captain_proton | JBdiGriz: could be mailserver lag, i'm not seeing any bzflag stuff in #commits either |
| 04:48.12 | JBdiGriz | I'll hold off on adding it back into guu until we have determined what is happening. |
| 04:49.19 | captain_proton | nothing in the mail log |
| 04:49.25 | captain_proton | probably sourceforge being crappy |
| 04:58.13 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's picking up P24 commits fine |
| 05:02.32 | *** join/#bzflag fiberchunks_ (~foobar@156.0.252.64.snet.net) |
| 05:02.39 | fiberchunks_ | allo? |
| 05:02.44 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 05:03.01 | fiberchunks_ | nada, taking yet another break from the basement hootenanny |
| 05:03.18 | *** join/#bzflag JBdiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-67-120-232-130.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 05:03.20 | fiberchunks_ | almost have the closet complete (along with a large portion of the rest of the basement |
| 05:03.40 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 05:03.47 | fiberchunks_ | wiring is done, all that's left in those areas is mud and paint :) |
| 05:04.34 | fiberchunks_ | whaz happonin on the left coast? |
| 05:04.57 | Patlabor221 | just making P24 build in release mode |
| 05:05.06 | Patlabor221 | and seting up a server here for it |
| 05:05.08 | fiberchunks_ | sweet! is it linux-able now? |
| 05:05.13 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 05:05.16 | fiberchunks_ | phoot |
| 05:05.19 | fiberchunks_ | :) |
| 05:05.21 | Patlabor221 | noone has made a build system for it |
| 05:05.54 | Patlabor221 | I know he is buys |
| 05:05.56 | Patlabor221 | busy |
| 05:06.00 | Patlabor221 | as is jbd |
| 05:06.10 | fiberchunks_ | time of the year |
| 05:06.15 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:06.24 | Patlabor221 | it's not hindering dev |
| 05:06.53 | fiberchunks_ | what's the forum link again? |
| 05:07.15 | Patlabor221 | p24.bakadigital.com |
| 05:07.20 | Patlabor221 | that's the main page |
| 05:07.24 | fiberchunks_ | ah, cool |
| 05:07.25 | Patlabor221 | links to forum and wiki |
| 05:08.35 | fiberchunks_ | bkmrked |
| 05:16.03 | learner | hey fiber :) |
| 05:16.06 | learner | how goes it? |
| 05:16.11 | learner | good to see you |
| 05:16.52 | bryjen | crazy bzflag in a trillion meter squared world with 10km/s tanks and 1Mm/s shots :) |
| 05:17.02 | learner | hehe |
| 05:17.33 | learner | I'm amazed it was actually keeping track and those were the only problems.. given float precision and all |
| 05:17.37 | fiberchunks_ | specifications and docs?!?!?! my word |
| 05:17.42 | fiberchunks_ | lo learner |
| 05:18.05 | bryjen | i dont think we could pick up flags. that might be a precision issue |
| 05:18.28 | fiberchunks_ | trillion meter squared - how long does it take to traverse :) |
| 05:18.31 | learner | didn't see them on test server I |
| 05:18.34 | learner | or II |
| 05:18.38 | learner | should have |
| 05:18.56 | bryjen | on the base in the center there was a team flag (at one point) |
| 05:19.07 | learner | yea, just that |
| 05:19.20 | learner | there should have been 10xgood and 1xbad |
| 05:19.38 | bryjen | i was just thinking GM might've been... interesting |
| 05:19.47 | learner | fiber: depends on the speed of the tank :) i kept changing it |
| 05:19.58 | fiberchunks_ | spiffy |
| 05:20.07 | learner | thought I was stuck at first when it was moving 100m/s :) |
| 05:20.13 | fiberchunks_ | what is this with 1.9 (who)? |
| 05:20.23 | fiberchunks_ | err, 1.9.(who) |
| 05:20.32 | learner | but when set to 1M m/s, you could start to see movement |
| 05:20.46 | learner | the new versioning? |
| 05:20.46 | bryjen | whats the speed of light in m/s? 3 something |
| 05:20.58 | Patlabor221 | ~nslookup ryoko.bakadigital.com |
| 05:21.00 | learner | 300,000m/s roughly |
| 05:21.19 | trepan | 300 000 km/s |
| 05:21.31 | bryjen | ~convert 1 lightsecond to meters |
| 05:21.44 | learner | er, yea, that's what I meant |
| 05:21.48 | trepan | 299 792 . 4562 km/s |
| 05:21.53 | bryjen | ~convert 1 lightyear to meters |
| 05:22.31 | bryjen | ~ 9.46053e+15 / 365 / 24 / 60 / 60 |
| 05:23.53 | learner | 9460530000000000 365 / 24 / 60 / 60 / p |
| 05:23.53 | learner | 299991438.3561643835 |
| 05:24.23 | fiberchunks_ | ooooo, goody |
| 05:24.54 | bryjen | 3e+08 |
| 05:24.58 | fiberchunks_ | does bz support tank stretchage for very large velocities ? ;) |
| 05:25.02 | Patlabor221 | can anyone get to, http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/ |
| 05:25.09 | trepan | fiberchunks_: hehe |
| 05:25.21 | bryjen | patlabor221: I'm welcomed |
| 05:25.23 | fiberchunks_ | yes |
| 05:25.27 | trepan | yup |
| 05:25.27 | Patlabor221 | the question is does it handle dopler properly :) |
| 05:25.32 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 05:25.32 | Patlabor221 | red shift the blue team :) |
| 05:25.34 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 05:25.56 | bryjen | blue and purple go ultraviolet ? |
| 05:25.58 | fiberchunks_ | heh a new game state -- teams become other teams for very large v :) |
| 05:26.19 | fiberchunks_ | erps, for very large a, actually |
| 05:26.37 | Patlabor221 | would the red team become invisible? |
| 05:26.44 | fiberchunks_ | cool :) |
| 05:27.01 | learner | yes, but then what would happen if you fire a round while going the speed of light? eh? |
| 05:27.09 | fiberchunks_ | supermassive tank thingies, with their own gravity :) |
| 05:27.13 | Patlabor221 | depends what it is made out of |
| 05:27.14 | bryjen | patlabor221: depends on if theyre approaching or not |
| 05:27.32 | Patlabor221 | "quick catch them before they accelerate" |
| 05:27.36 | learner | :) |
| 05:27.36 | fiberchunks_ | 'if you were going the speed of light, and turned on your headlights ... would you see them? |
| 05:27.55 | Patlabor221 | or would you blow up with a collision with the photons |
| 05:28.09 | bryjen | aproaching blue n purple shift up to ultraviolet or xrays or something |
| 05:28.19 | fiberchunks_ | 'gamma team' |
| 05:28.34 | fiberchunks_ | the 'mazin muons |
| 05:29.28 | Patlabor221 | hmm the SDL VC7 project is busted, sux |
| 05:29.53 | bryjen | retreating reds would shift down to infra. those hot tanks |
| 05:31.51 | Patlabor221 | would aproching purple tanks, be ultraviolet? |
| 05:32.19 | bryjen | or something higher. xrays |
| 05:35.59 | Patlabor221 | ~nslookup list.bakadigital.com |
| 05:37.25 | learner | HLA |
| 05:38.20 | bryjen | 11 v1.9 servers. half of them brlcad |
| 05:38.31 | learner | hehe |
| 05:39.28 | bryjen | i bet he's got the most m^2 battlefield area too ;) |
| 05:49.43 | Patlabor221 | ~nslookup update.bakadigital.com |
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| 07:55.54 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): more details for the people that follow up on the latest two bugs |
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| 14:47.43 | Bagheera | looks like that admin dude still hasnt found that ssh hole... |
| 14:48.19 | orchid | no, im off work today |
| 14:50.02 | Bagheera | ...and admins across canada take a breather... :) |
| 14:50.19 | orchid | :) |
| 14:50.46 | orchid | ive given up harrasing him for the most part |
| 14:54.29 | Bagheera | and your good karma grows |
| 15:00.27 | Chestal | hi orchid |
| 15:00.49 | orchid | nhi |
| 15:01.08 | Chestal | looks like yesterday's bzflag was too much :-) |
| 15:01.23 | orchid | heh |
| 15:01.25 | orchid | yeah |
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| 15:15.32 | Death_Barrel | what is up with the league site? |
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| 16:19.47 | Patlabor221 | trepan, why didn't you just commit the map compatability thing? |
| 16:22.12 | Chestal | Pat: without spoiling me, which Invisibles doyou have? I only got 1, 2, 4 and 8 myself |
| 16:24.03 | Patlabor221 | ohh we haven't even looked :) |
| 16:24.14 | Patlabor221 | yesterday was buys |
| 16:24.16 | Patlabor221 | busy |
| 16:24.59 | Chestal | ah, ok. I got 1, 2 and 4 myself, a friend of mine told me 8, I didn't want to hear it at that time, but I would never have figured out that one anyway |
| 16:31.44 | Patlabor221 | we have 2 left, 4 and 6 |
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| 16:33.51 | Chestal | 4 is easy, still it took me some time. The mvoie is not that well-known, though |
| 16:34.03 | Patlabor221 | really? |
| 16:34.09 | Patlabor221 | is he geting dressed |
| 16:34.15 | Chestal | no |
| 16:34.17 | Patlabor221 | or geting some sort of "service" |
| 16:34.21 | Chestal | no |
| 16:34.27 | Patlabor221 | we don't know |
| 16:34.35 | Chestal | he is standing in front of a mirror |
| 16:34.54 | Patlabor221 | we got it |
| 16:35.07 | Chestal | which of 3, 5, and 7 are comedies? |
| 16:35.50 | Patlabor221 | & is |
| 16:35.52 | Patlabor221 | 7 is |
| 16:36.57 | Patlabor221 | 7 is well known |
| 16:37.37 | Patlabor221 | we are down to just needing 6 |
| 16:38.31 | Patlabor221 | 6 looks like a Disney movie from the 80's |
| 16:39.21 | Chestal | I tried googling for the inscription, but to no avail |
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| 16:45.59 | Patlabor221 | yeah us too |
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| 16:46.47 | Patlabor221 | 3 has an actor from the lor of the rings movies in it |
| 16:49.06 | Chestal | Patlabor: (not) in the image? :-) |
| 16:49.44 | trepan | Patlabor221: belated: that, and because i can't commit |
| 16:50.24 | trepan | (don't tell the girldfriend) |
| 16:53.00 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 16:53.09 | Patlabor221 | why not just ask tim to be added |
| 16:53.15 | Patlabor221 | I think it's a perfect thing for a commit |
| 16:53.23 | Patlabor221 | he's here, you can just ask him now :) |
| 16:53.50 | Patlabor221 | in the image |
| 16:53.52 | Patlabor221 | chestal |
| 16:54.12 | Patlabor221 | the guy with the clover is in all 3 LOTR movies |
| 16:54.16 | Patlabor221 | as a main character |
| 16:55.30 | brlcad | yea, trepan is getting a little too swift with the updates for me to keep commiting for him |
| 16:55.33 | brlcad | :) |
| 16:55.54 | Chestal | Patlabor: hmm, probably I haven't seen that movie then, not sure |
| 16:55.54 | brlcad | he's starting to move beyone one and two-liners :) |
| 16:55.57 | Patlabor221 | he's made enough patches, |
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| 16:56.15 | brlcad | indeed |
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| 16:57.56 | JBdiGriz | pat are you in la county, or ventura county? |
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| 16:59.34 | Patlabor221 | ventura |
| 16:59.38 | Chestal | Patlabor: got #3, never heard of it, though |
| 16:59.52 | Chestal | gues sit's not that popular outside of the US |
| 16:59.55 | Patlabor221 | ohh it was suposedly a good movie |
| 16:59.59 | Patlabor221 | probably not |
| 17:00.08 | Patlabor221 | I have never seen it but I have heard of it |
| 17:00.18 | Patlabor221 | I had not heard or seen #5 |
| 17:00.24 | Patlabor221 | but 2 other people here had |
| 17:00.47 | Chestal | it looks strange, my guess would have been either comedy or horror (or both) |
| 17:01.07 | Patlabor221 | it's done by a musical artist |
| 17:01.21 | JBdiGriz | Patlabor221: Then I can't give you lots of grief about your county gov't. |
| 17:01.22 | Patlabor221 | and I think it is both |
| 17:01.46 | Patlabor221 | yeah, I am happy I'm not in LA county, they are all wierd over there |
| 17:01.50 | Patlabor221 | they even have more sales tax |
| 17:03.02 | JBdiGriz | The snopes and /. article makes them sound even weirder. |
| 17:05.00 | Chestal | Patlabor: is #5 less than 10 years old? |
| 17:07.10 | Patlabor221 | I think it's a new movie |
| 17:07.21 | Patlabor221 | less then a year |
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| 17:10.39 | Chestal | Patlabor: ah, ok, that's too new to be fair,especially for us here in Europe :-) |
| 17:10.53 | Patlabor221 | I would not have goten it |
| 17:10.59 | Patlabor221 | with out the 2 guys here |
| 17:11.16 | Patlabor221 | I didn't even know Rob Zombie did a movie |
| 17:11.25 | Chestal | it starts here in January, has only been playing on festivals so far |
| 17:12.10 | Chestal | so, I probably know #7? |
| 17:12.54 | Patlabor221 | posibly |
| 17:13.01 | Patlabor221 | it is considerd a "clasic" one |
| 17:13.12 | Patlabor221 | it was one of the directors last really funny movies |
| 17:13.21 | Chestal | which implies that's it's older than 10 years? |
| 17:13.42 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:13.47 | Patlabor221 | 1987 |
| 17:14.02 | Patlabor221 | there are a number of funny lines in it |
| 17:14.09 | Patlabor221 | many quotable |
| 17:14.13 | Patlabor221 | some have even be utterdhere |
| 17:16.14 | Chestal | hmm, I had thought of somewhat similiar movies, gI haven't seen that one in a long time, I don't remember that scene at all |
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| 17:24.13 | orchid | hi cola |
| 17:24.48 | sn0w_kitty | hi flower :) |
| 17:25.32 | sn0w_kitty | i heard orchids r not easy 2 grow |
| 17:25.41 | sn0w_kitty | very fragile flowaz |
| 17:25.45 | brlcad | ~translate en es cola |
| 17:26.00 | brlcad | fooey |
| 17:26.08 | sn0w_kitty | hi learna |
| 17:26.13 | brlcad | hi kitty |
| 17:26.21 | sn0w_kitty | kola |
| 17:26.28 | sn0w_kitty | cookey cola! |
| 17:26.33 | sn0w_kitty | heehe |
| 17:26.53 | brlcad | ella tiene una cola linda :) |
| 17:27.03 | sn0w_kitty | o.O |
| 17:28.09 | sn0w_kitty | i think trepan listen 2 wut u sed yesterday L |
| 17:28.42 | sn0w_kitty | da coliseum seems alil bigger now |
| 17:28.52 | brlcad | hmm.. interesting |
| 17:29.22 | sn0w_kitty | or maybee itz my imagination.. buh it duz feel bigger |
| 17:29.32 | brlcad | :) |
| 17:29.38 | sn0w_kitty | :) |
| 17:29.42 | brlcad | I was hoping he made you an admin :) |
| 17:29.54 | sn0w_kitty | :P |
| 17:30.08 | sn0w_kitty | i dunt wanna b an admin. |
| 17:30.15 | brlcad | no? |
| 17:30.18 | sn0w_kitty | nah |
| 17:30.19 | sn0w_kitty | heehe |
| 17:30.31 | sn0w_kitty | i dunno ... |
| 17:30.39 | Patlabor221 | if anyone sees big barel, can they tell him I just moved his posts and to stop thinking they are disapearing. |
| 17:30.50 | sn0w_kitty | dunno how long imma b playin BZ , so ... |
| 17:30.56 | brlcad | You'd be a good admin. |
| 17:31.00 | brlcad | awww.. |
| 17:31.04 | sn0w_kitty | okies pat |
| 17:31.18 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 17:32.09 | sn0w_kitty | hmm i wonder y he thinks his post dunt show up .. maybe he iz stil using da old bzbb.bakadigital site? |
| 17:32.31 | Patlabor221 | no, cus I keep moving them cus he puts them in the wrong spot |
| 17:32.35 | Patlabor221 | and he dosn't read his mail |
| 17:32.39 | sn0w_kitty | o i c |
| 17:32.59 | Patlabor221 | he puts BZ help questions in the board sugestions forum |
| 17:33.11 | sn0w_kitty | hehee ya i saw dat |
| 17:33.17 | Patlabor221 | he did it twice |
| 17:33.18 | sn0w_kitty | silly BB |
| 17:33.20 | Patlabor221 | I sent him a mail |
| 17:33.32 | Patlabor221 | then he sends me a PM asking why they keep disapearing |
| 17:33.36 | Patlabor221 | *sigh* |
| 17:34.05 | Patlabor221 | he could have even just listed his last 10 posts and seen where they went |
| 17:34.32 | sn0w_kitty | u kno , i remember sum1 had da same prob dat BB mentioned in his topic ...i jus cant remember who it was .. |
| 17:34.44 | sn0w_kitty | an i dunt feel like diggin thru all dem old posts.. |
| 17:35.28 | sn0w_kitty | <<bad memry |
| 17:35.38 | sn0w_kitty | O.o |
| 17:35.38 | sn0w_kitty | heehe |
| 17:35.52 | Patlabor221 | yeah, it's probably bad firmware |
| 17:36.08 | Patlabor221 | he has a bout 5 answers to his question allready, he just dosn't know it :) |
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| 17:40.57 | sn0w_kitty | ~d |
| 17:41.16 | Tupone | sno: hi |
| 17:41.17 | sn0w_kitty | ibot: botsnack ice cream sammich |
| 17:41.17 | | sn0w_kitty: :) |
| 17:41.21 | sn0w_kitty | :) |
| 17:41.24 | sn0w_kitty | hi tupone |
| 17:41.24 | Tupone | sn0: |
| 17:41.33 | sn0w_kitty | bye tupone |
| 17:41.35 | sn0w_kitty | bbl |
| 17:41.39 | Tupone | bye |
| 17:46.28 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): respawning at bases not always done |
| 17:48.09 | brlcad | hi tupone |
| 17:48.15 | Tupone | hi learner |
| 17:48.22 | Tupone | new BUGS in :) |
| 17:48.31 | brlcad | yea.. did you see them? :) |
| 17:49.13 | Tupone | not checked yours. Have time only to put new in :) |
| 17:49.34 | brlcad | oh. heh. you put new bugs in ;) gotcha |
| 17:50.02 | Tupone | more bug in, is like a treasure hunt |
| 17:50.51 | Tupone | You didn't like my way to fix that bug! yes? |
| 17:51.03 | Tupone | j/k I ream your message |
| 17:51.07 | Tupone | s/ream/read/ |
| 17:52.30 | Tupone | what's the conclusions about autoconf? you got some decision? |
| 17:53.42 | brlcad | hehe, yea -- it's not that I didn't like the fix, I wasn't paying attention -- didn't notice you had already fixed it, so I just made it look like the rest |
| 17:54.53 | brlcad | I haven't heard any conclusion from tim, regarding autoconf -- so I'm going to assume my last suggestion (do nothing right now) in the meantime |
| 17:55.20 | Tupone | having gcc-2.95 not working ? |
| 17:55.32 | brlcad | nope, I'm going to leave it busted |
| 17:55.32 | JBdiGriz | If either of you is running short of parens, here's a few extra :))))))))))) |
| 17:55.55 | brlcad | ((((((((((((: |
| 17:56.18 | Tupone | {{{{{{{}}}}}}} |
| 17:56.45 | brlcad | return 0; |
| 17:57.21 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.03 | Tupone | are there any free collaborative tool web based? |
| 17:59.17 | Tupone | for code editing. I mean |
| 17:59.20 | Patlabor221 | what is this lisp now? |
| 17:59.41 | JBdiGriz | Would it ensure that the code compiles before being checked in? :) |
| 18:01.32 | Tupone | I'd like a real concurrent editing and compiling :0 |
| 18:03.29 | drinian | This is too cool - http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/index.php |
| 18:04.02 | drinian | Another reason to love linux. |
| 18:07.09 | Grumbler | gotta wonder how fast it is |
| 18:07.18 | Grumbler | are you using it now? |
| 18:07.21 | drinian | Fast. |
| 18:07.33 | drinian | Yes and it works as advertized |
| 18:07.47 | drinian | As long as you have a good 3d card |
| 18:07.48 | Grumbler | fast on a 500mhz machine, or fast on a 2.8ghz machine... :) |
| 18:08.03 | drinian | 1.8 ati radeon 7500 |
| 18:08.21 | Grumbler | ok.......might give it a try....... |
| 18:08.39 | drinian | Let me know how it performs. |
| 18:09.10 | drinian | You have to make sure you have the XFree86-devel and Imlib2-devel stuff installed |
| 18:09.31 | Grumbler | if i can remember, sure...........i am remodeling the home office for the new computer, so it iwll be a week or two before i get back to it |
| 18:16.06 | larsl | This bug in BUGS: "make maintainer-clean does not enter DIST_SUBDIRS so all Makefile.in and Makefile files are not removed correctly" seems to be an automake 1.4 bug, because it works fine with automake 1.6. Should it be removed? |
| 18:19.58 | Tupone | does it work also on a separate directory? :) |
| 18:21.55 | larsl | 'make maintainer-clean' doesn't make much sense anywhere except in the top directory. |
| 18:22.31 | Tupone | yeah, I imagine that, that's why the :) at the end |
| 18:22.54 | larsl | But yes, it removes Makefiles in a separate build directory too. =) |
| 18:23.12 | Tupone | however that's no way to clean Makefile.in in the source directory |
| 18:23.14 | Tupone | ? |
| 18:24.09 | Tupone | unlsee you configure into the source directory and then maintainer-clean it |
| 18:24.32 | larsl | That might be true. |
| 18:24.53 | Tupone | I'm not sure, but I think the same |
| 18:25.59 | larsl | But still, the bug in BUGS seems to be in automake 1.4 rather than in our files. |
| 18:26.00 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.56 | Tupone | we should have a poll system here :) |
| 18:27.10 | larsl | I'll try 'make maintainer-clean' in another package with automake 1.4. |
| 18:27.32 | Grumbler | why?.........to spread out the blame when something goes wrong? |
| 18:27.42 | Grumbler | :) |
| 18:27.58 | Tupone | ibot could do polls |
| 18:27.59 | | Tupone: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 18:28.11 | Tupone | stupid ibot |
| 18:31.41 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): Added note to 'make maintainer-clean' bug |
| 18:46.13 | Grumbler | !weather annapolis, md |
| 18:46.16 | Guu | Grumbler: The current temperature in Annapolis, Maryland is 43°F. Conditions are Clear. |
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| 19:30.57 | Grumbler | ever have one of those days when you try to find out why one computer is not responding to anything, and it turns out that someone unplugged the ethernet port..... |
| 19:31.15 | Pimpinella | lol |
| 19:35.50 | Pimpinella | i wonder if it wouldn't be nice to have a reload-time-option in bzfs |
| 19:36.32 | brlcad | hi pimp |
| 19:36.38 | brlcad | and lars |
| 19:36.41 | Pimpinella | hi |
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| 19:38.40 | brlcad | larsl, did you get my message? I forget what I wrote, but I remember writing you something.. |
| 19:43.05 | larsl | Yes, I got it. |
| 19:43.05 | Noodleman | ever try watching homestar runner thru remote desktop? |
| 19:43.27 | Noodleman | i tell ya, it's not as good as locally :-0 |
| 19:44.05 | larsl | brlcad: The problem is that a select() in ServerLink.cxx is interrupted by the signals, and then it thinks that it got an error. |
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| 19:44.32 | larsl | Blocking the signals stops that, but then bzadmin don't know when to update its windows. |
| 19:46.09 | brlcad | Hmm.. perhaps select is failing with a particular message that could be captured? |
| 19:46.26 | Tupone | select fail with EINTR |
| 19:46.34 | brlcad | I was rather successful, otherwise, getting it to respond gracefully to a variety of signals |
| 19:47.40 | larsl | Yes, we could check for EINTR (and write a signal handler for WSIGCH that updates all windows). |
| 19:47.47 | brlcad | eintr hm.. that's not the same as a disconnect or session close -- probably would be good to "try again" if interrupted |
| 19:47.59 | Tupone | but it should do that, otherwise does not get the "kill" command |
| 19:48.08 | brlcad | if after 2 or 3 tries, it still fails, consider it dead |
| 19:48.49 | brlcad | larsl, i wrote a quick signal handler that updated all the windows (it's trivial) |
| 19:49.24 | brlcad | it worked, just, it would come back after resize or backgrounding, and then exit :) |
| 19:49.35 | brlcad | redrawing once |
| 19:49.48 | larsl | brlcad: Did it wrap the current text in the windows too? |
| 19:49.55 | larsl | re-wrap |
| 19:50.25 | brlcad | I never tried it with wrapped text, but the command prompt was at the bottom for all of a quarter sec |
| 19:51.37 | Tupone | what happen to the current select, when you got running that signal handler? |
| 19:51.54 | larsl | Tupone: It still aborts and returns EINTR. |
| 19:52.05 | larsl | At least that's what happened when I added a handler. |
| 19:52.43 | Tupone | the select should unlock, otherwise there is no way to handle window resizing! |
| 19:52.45 | brlcad | yea, i wrote it to actually handle any signal, just for kicks, and it would still return because bzadmin though the link had died on it |
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| 19:52.58 | brlcad | s/though/thought/ |
| 19:53.16 | Tupone | we should handle that EINTR return in a better way |
| 19:53.39 | Tupone | but we should mantain that signal happening |
| 19:53.44 | larsl | How does bzflag use ServerLink::read? |
| 19:53.52 | larsl | Does it try again if it gets -1? |
| 19:56.01 | Tupone | just return |
| 19:56.18 | Tupone | its like nothing to read IMHO |
| 19:56.28 | larsl | Ah. |
| 19:56.42 | larsl | bzadmin should do the same, then. |
| 19:58.00 | brlcad | bzflag shuts down if you try to background it, iirc |
| 19:58.25 | brlcad | it has signal handlers set up already -- they mostly tear the app down |
| 19:58.38 | brlcad | I'd expect that for a graphical app, but not for console |
| 19:58.56 | brlcad | I often background and return to irc/pine/lynx/etc |
| 19:59.51 | larsl | Yes, backgrounding bzadmin definitely should work. |
| 20:00.54 | brlcad | probably just continue the loop if return is EINTR and don't even bother with trying "n" times. That's what I see most select code do |
| 20:03.28 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (BZAdminClient.cxx): bzadmin handles backgrounding (Ctrl-Z) and terminal size changes a little better, can still be improved |
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| 20:13.06 | KR | hi |
| 20:15.01 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): Changed bug |
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| 20:17.09 | larsl | TimRiker: The 'make maintainer-clean' bug seems to be a bug in automake 1.4, it works in 1.6. Is it OK to remove it from BUGS? |
| 20:19.47 | TimRiker | leave it there, and document the 1.4 issue. |
| 20:20.11 | larsl | Already did that. =) |
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| 20:37.08 | Noodleman | Chestal, or [dmp], or somebody: how do we officially record a match's result? |
| 20:37.23 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (CursesUI.cxx): Added /set and /reset to the autocompleter |
| 20:37.23 | Noodleman | in the league |
| 20:37.32 | orchid | Noodleman: did you win? |
| 20:37.38 | Chestal | Noodleman: tell someone who can enter it by any means imaginable :-) |
| 20:37.46 | Noodleman | orchid: we didn't |
| 20:37.55 | Noodleman | but we gave them lots of heck :-) |
| 20:37.57 | orchid | Noodleman: i can enter it, however those two guys you played are already on another team |
| 20:38.18 | Noodleman | ok, so would that be official? |
| 20:38.46 | orchid | well, i dont think players should be on 2 different active teams at once |
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| 20:39.16 | Chestal | they cannot |
| 20:39.23 | Noodleman | oh, well, you can record that they won 4-1 for now; we can reverse that later, can't we? |
| 20:39.26 | Noodleman | oh |
| 20:39.27 | Noodleman | ok |
| 20:39.43 | Chestal | reversing is not easy |
| 20:40.13 | Noodleman | ok, so then it's not official? |
| 20:40.52 | orchid | well, those 2 ip's of the guys you played, exactly matched 2 other guys on the team "mag" |
| 20:41.31 | Noodleman | ok, i guess i'll have to be the bearer of bad tiding to those guys then |
| 20:41.53 | orchid | unless theyre from like a dorm or something |
| 20:41.55 | orchid | i dunno |
| 20:42.17 | Noodleman | i'll look up those ip's |
| 20:43.05 | orchid | anyhow, that guy Spoon[scuba] = Jak [mag] and Hammer[scuba] = Bullwinkle[mag] |
| 20:43.11 | Noodleman | ok |
| 20:44.09 | Chestal | hmm |
| 20:44.18 | Chestal | I hate it when peopel cause such confusion |
| 20:44.27 | Chestal | I wonder what their motivation is |
| 20:44.57 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 20:46.12 | brlcad | Chestal: pi=3 and 1+1=pi for small slices of pie |
| 20:47.02 | Chestal | I want a big slice! |
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| 20:50.39 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (CursesUI.cxx): Sorted the registerWord() calls in semi-alphabetical order after the argument to make it easier to see if a word has been registered or not |
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| 21:00.31 | Grumbler | i am surprised there isnt some sort of registery for such things |
| 21:06.56 | Pimpinella | dpkg-buildpackage seems to fail in the curent cvs |
| 21:07.18 | Pimpinella | dh_changelog fails |
| 21:08.04 | Pimpinella | and some cp call for a manpage in the debian/rules |
| 21:10.11 | Pimpinella | i commeted it out, now it works |
| 21:15.47 | Patlabor221 | chestal we got the last one |
| 21:16.36 | Chestal | Patlabor: ah, a subtle hint please. Or is it a very difficult one? |
| 21:17.00 | Patlabor221 | it's a live action disney movie |
| 21:17.03 | Patlabor221 | from the 70's |
| 21:17.15 | Patlabor221 | and the 2 main actors did a couple of them together |
| 21:20.09 | creeperz | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/6279/ |
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| 21:21.19 | trepan | larsl: hi there, saw you comment about BZAdminClient.cxx |
| 21:21.33 | trepan | did you try killing a server with -9 while connected? |
| 21:22.14 | Grumbler | Chestal: which number? |
| 21:23.22 | Chestal | 6 |
| 21:23.49 | Grumbler | oh....right in time for Thanksgiving over here.......with apple pie and all |
| 21:24.31 | Grumbler | and yummy dumplings................glad no one will steal those |
| 21:24.52 | Patlabor221 | want some more hints |
| 21:26.08 | Chestal | soon, but not yet :-) |
| 21:26.27 | Grumbler | ok, dont want to tie you in knots or anything |
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| 21:33.20 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (12 files in 3 dirs): fixing pyramid collision to solve stuck above flipped ones |
| 21:33.47 | Chestal | my network is not behaving |
| 21:33.54 | Chestal | my ISPs DNS is messed up |
| 21:35.07 | Grumbler | to bad |
| 21:36.48 | Grumbler | if you need more hints, i can definitely supply.........one of the nutty characters was one of favorites growing up......right next to abotto and costello |
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| 21:38.09 | Patlabor221 | wow I didn't even know there were words to the star trek theme song |
| 21:39.32 | Chestal | I think I am tired of guessing now |
| 21:40.03 | Grumbler | don knotts, apple........gang |
| 21:40.11 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:40.20 | Patlabor221 | the apple dumpling gang |
| 21:40.49 | Patlabor221 | we stumbled across it |
| 21:41.00 | Patlabor221 | mostly by saying "that looks like an old disney movie" |
| 21:41.05 | Patlabor221 | then kinda went thru them |
| 21:41.08 | Grumbler | haha, should have asked me.........its the only one i knew right off |
| 21:41.21 | Patlabor221 | ohh come on, #2 is easy |
| 21:41.23 | Patlabor221 | as is #1 |
| 21:41.30 | Grumbler | sad statement on me i guess |
| 21:42.19 | Patlabor221 | kudos to them for finding an out there movie on that one tho |
| 21:44.28 | Pimpinella | bye |
| 21:45.46 | Grumbler | i guess #1 and #3 were easy as well..... |
| 21:45.57 | Grumbler | no idea on #2 |
| 21:46.33 | Grumbler | just be glad they havent used scenes from "Shoot the Piano Player" |
| 21:47.06 | Patlabor221 | you sould be able to tell #2 by chest size, its what the character is most known for |
| 21:51.55 | captain_proton | ~invisibles |
| 21:51.57 | | invisibles is probably at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
| 21:59.42 | Grumbler | there are many characters know for that particular......er, um.....feature.........at least in my mind |
| 22:00.23 | Grumbler | looks like a james bond flick, which basically is not helping cut down the possible candidates |
| 22:01.17 | Grumbler | Patlabor221: halo........is that the one where your start off driving an offroad vehicle |
| 22:02.18 | Patlabor221 | you can |
| 22:02.23 | Patlabor221 | you can get in a warthog |
| 22:02.26 | Patlabor221 | or a tank |
| 22:02.31 | Patlabor221 | or a ghost |
| 22:02.35 | Patlabor221 | or a banshie |
| 22:02.59 | Patlabor221 | all games need a Cortana |
| 22:04.52 | Grumbler | think i played that demo......... |
| 22:05.21 | Grumbler | but not the horsepower |
| 22:05.29 | Patlabor221 | you need some beef |
| 22:05.36 | Grumbler | i am getting beef |
| 22:05.36 | Patlabor221 | at least a GF3 class card |
| 22:05.50 | Grumbler | at least i think i am |
| 22:05.53 | Patlabor221 | or an Xbox :) |
| 22:05.54 | Grumbler | haha |
| 22:06.05 | Patlabor221 | what are you geting? |
| 22:06.21 | Grumbler | p4 3.2, 1gb, fx 5950 overclocked |
| 22:06.31 | Patlabor221 | that shouold be fine |
| 22:06.42 | Grumbler | hope so |
| 22:06.44 | Patlabor221 | tho do you really need to OC it? |
| 22:06.55 | Patlabor221 | what are you gonna run that needs it OCed? |
| 22:06.56 | Grumbler | its alienware..... |
| 22:07.03 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 22:07.08 | Patlabor221 | well I'm sure it will be purdy |
| 22:07.12 | Patlabor221 | and spensive |
| 22:07.18 | Grumbler | yes, and yeas |
| 22:07.25 | Grumbler | yes that is |
| 22:07.59 | Grumbler | but i got frustrated with the gdsii editor running at home........so i decided to upgrade my 550mhz xeon |
| 22:08.25 | Patlabor221 | ahhh that is a bit of an older machine |
| 22:08.38 | Grumbler | first new machine in many years......... |
| 22:09.15 | Grumbler | new as in right on the edge.....instead of ebay 5 year old stuff |
| 22:10.01 | Grumbler | but bz hasnt really pushed my need for something kickbutt.........which i pocket was appreciating |
| 22:10.58 | brlcad | tupone: do you know how to set bzdb vars from within the map file? |
| 22:12.23 | Tupone | I suppose you do in the world container |
| 22:13.26 | brlcad | i tried.. the world container doesn't parse them -- I should probably add that |
| 22:13.40 | brlcad | so I can set things like the tankspeed etc |
| 22:15.32 | Grumbler | haha, thats funny, their exclusive version has the same specs as the ultra version....hahaha |
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| 22:15.59 | Grumbler | must have been the font, i thought the fill rates were different..... |
| 22:16.09 | Grumbler | oh well |
| 22:16.24 | Grumbler | its just money |
| 22:21.35 | brlcad | tupone: in here.. which one? |
| 22:21.54 | Tupone | why it take so long to join? |
| 22:22.10 | brlcad | you mean the delay on the list server? |
| 22:22.31 | Tupone | on bzfs yours |
| 22:22.54 | Tupone | is that related to the size |
| 22:22.57 | brlcad | I didn't know that it takes a long time now.. |
| 22:24.26 | brlcad | hrm.. my ensureProcess isn't running right.. there are many scripts trying to run simultaneously.. that might be part of the problem |
| 22:24.38 | brlcad | but the machine isn't loaded |
| 22:24.56 | Tupone | I have tried to load playground I |
| 22:25.03 | Grumbler | brlcad: that would be a nice idea, since many maps require a certain setup which is hard to figure out for some server owners |
| 22:25.56 | Tupone | there's some bug related to that? can be size. 'cause is doesn't stop loading |
| 22:26.09 | brlcad | Grumbler: do you know how to set the vars via command-line options anyways? |
| 22:26.23 | Grumbler | brlcad: .......and if i can nudge you little, remove the necessity to have -fb and -j for elevated flag bases in ctf |
| 22:26.24 | brlcad | Tupone: maybe.. |
| 22:26.48 | Grumbler | brlcad: yes, i know how to set, but it would nice to add those fields to the map file as defaults |
| 22:26.55 | brlcad | Grumbler: tell me how :) |
| 22:27.08 | brlcad | please :) |
| 22:27.25 | Grumbler | brlcad: what are you trying to set? |
| 22:27.34 | larsl | But not really necessary, the map designers could distribute the vars file with the world file if the world needed specific variable values. |
| 22:27.43 | brlcad | certain vars that are in BZDB like _tankSpeed or _shotSpeed, etc |
| 22:27.54 | larsl | brlcad: The -vars option? |
| 22:27.59 | larsl | I've never used it though. |
| 22:28.27 | Grumbler | ug, i dont have dutchrai's cheat sheet here.......and the last i heard his site was down |
| 22:28.33 | brlcad | ah, larsl thanks :) |
| 22:28.54 | brlcad | I was a hunting and a hunting the other night |
| 22:29.11 | Grumbler | larsl: i dont like the idea of having two files, when one would do......but that is just me |
| 22:29.42 | larsl | Grumbler: You still need a conf file or a start script with other options, unless you are running an extremely simple server. =) |
| 22:30.10 | brlcad | it should do both, the map can/should have defaults since it often makes sense, and the command line should overrride |
| 22:30.19 | Grumbler | larsl: yeah..........but, wouldnt it be nice if you could just point to a map, and have all the options set |
| 22:30.33 | brlcad | optionally putting all the world vars into a separate file is an interesting idea |
| 22:30.58 | Grumbler | we have that already with the conf file.......pretty much |
| 22:31.15 | larsl | brlcad: That's how -vars works. |
| 22:32.40 | brlcad | not exactly. like grumbler said, it'd be nice to have all the world options defined in one place, not tied to the "game" or the geometry. it's the physics |
| 22:33.04 | brlcad | although I supposed you could have a -conf file with just -vars in it |
| 22:33.23 | larsl | brlcad: The parameter to -vars is a file with variable values in it. |
| 22:33.30 | Grumbler | but that makes a configuration management problem when maps get traded back and forth |
| 22:33.32 | brlcad | oh really? |
| 22:34.11 | brlcad | did not know that .. I assumed something like -vars _tankSpeed=100 -vars _shotAdVel=20 |
| 22:34.15 | larsl | Really. =) |
| 22:34.18 | Grumbler | ...but since I will not be able to help program this feature, i should probably shut up |
| 22:34.34 | brlcad | Grumbler: why not? :) |
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| 22:35.55 | Grumbler | brlcad: really dont want to start another new project right now.....and if i did i would probably start hacking around p24, since the number i would screw up would be minimal :) |
| 22:36.02 | o | ~d |
| 22:36.09 | brlcad | :) |
| 22:36.15 | brlcad | good choice :) |
| 22:36.37 | o | ~d |
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| 22:43.00 | Tupone | brlcad: definitely not able to load playground I |
| 22:43.19 | brlcad | at all? |
| 22:43.26 | brlcad | jb had the same problem |
| 22:43.33 | brlcad | I think it requires a lot of memory |
| 22:43.44 | brlcad | only me and bryjen could connect last night |
| 22:44.18 | larsl | brlcad: I tried that one earlier tonight, my computer froze. |
| 22:44.27 | larsl | Or at least got very sluggish. |
| 22:44.41 | brlcad | it's easy to reproduce.. just add -worldsize #### to your conf file |
| 22:44.47 | brlcad | larsl: hehe |
| 22:49.31 | brlcad | for some reason the actual _worldSize var ends up getting set to either INF or something else (/set reports it to be about 1 trillion) |
| 22:50.26 | Tupone | just wondering: How many building were created on those maps? roughly |
| 22:50.48 | brlcad | it's a SAVEWORLD of a -cr map |
| 22:51.01 | brlcad | so you can guess.. default ducati-style map number |
| 22:51.39 | Tupone | didn't see the code, but man sais worldsize is the size of random map |
| 22:51.51 | Tupone | s/sais/says/ |
| 22:53.10 | brlcad | hrm.. random map? |
| 22:53.28 | brlcad | it "should" just be the size of whatever map was given |
| 22:53.39 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.39 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.05 | brlcad | hrm.. that's still bad. it can/should be made to work on non-random maps |
| 22:55.34 | Tupone | could be only a wrong man |
| 22:58.37 | larsl | brlcad: I used it on gravitywaves.homelinux.net when I ran that. It had a small map (150x150 or so) without problems. |
| 22:59.12 | larsl | Not -worldsize of course, the world object in the map file. |
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| 23:04.50 | brlcad | yeah, setting size in a world object seems to work okay for me too |
| 23:05.03 | brlcad | but I'm not looking for a workaround :) |
| 23:06.24 | Tupone | we should treat the same |
| 23:06.49 | brlcad | yeah.. I'm thinking the fixes that are needed are: |
| 23:08.08 | larsl | Are you using a random generated map? |
| 23:08.13 | brlcad | 1) world object in world file needs to support arbitrary bzdb vars (size and flagheight can be removed as "custom") and 2) worldsize can be removed and -vars improved to accept vars as well |
| 23:08.50 | brlcad | yes and no, larsl -- from bzfs's perspective no -- it was a world I dumped to disk off of a -cr world |
| 23:09.02 | larsl | brlcad: But then -worldsize doesn't make sense. |
| 23:09.34 | larsl | It still shouldn't crash the clients, of course. |
| 23:09.43 | brlcad | that too *cough* |
| 23:10.03 | brlcad | larsl, why not? makes sense to me. |
| 23:10.08 | brlcad | the map doesn't specify a size |
| 23:10.14 | brlcad | I want one that is hugh |
| 23:10.17 | brlcad | er, huge |
| 23:11.01 | larsl | OK, I suppose it makes sense. =) |
| 23:11.56 | brlcad | such a potty mind, orchid.. :) |
| 23:12.24 | Patlabor221 | frudean slip? |
| 23:12.36 | brlcad | ~whaleslap Patlabor221 |
| 23:12.39 | | ACTION slaps Patlabor221 upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 23:12.47 | Patlabor221 | uh-huh |
| 23:12.58 | Patlabor221 | pad even |
| 23:13.02 | brlcad | hehe |
| 23:13.12 | brlcad | slip up there yourself, eh? :) |
| 23:13.13 | Patlabor221 | so tell me about your mother |
| 23:13.25 | orchid | :) |
| 23:13.26 | brlcad | she's wonderful, and I love her very much :) |
| 23:13.42 | brlcad | you're wearing a slip? :) |
| 23:14.25 | JBdiGriz | this time :) |
| 23:14.26 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): Respawning at bases even when died before capturing |
| 23:15.04 | larsl | Tupone is the bug king. |
| 23:15.24 | Tupone | I put in and remove, like penelope |
| 23:15.42 | Patlabor221 | no I actualy am one |
| 23:15.49 | Patlabor221 | Im an animated object |
| 23:15.53 | Patlabor221 | that like IRC |
| 23:16.06 | Patlabor221 | when I am not being worn by beatiful women |
| 23:16.07 | Tupone | this wasn't mine, but Mac halped |
| 23:16.42 | Chestal | where is he hiding? |
| 23:16.48 | brlcad | puter broke |
| 23:16.57 | Patlabor221 | vid card |
| 23:17.11 | Patlabor221 | must reemember to do that |
| 23:17.19 | Tupone | AGP or PCI ? |
| 23:17.29 | Patlabor221 | I have both, he needs AGP |
| 23:17.39 | Patlabor221 | I have a 2MX to send him |
| 23:17.42 | Chestal | I must have an old ET4000 ISA card somewhere |
| 23:17.48 | brlcad | eep |
| 23:18.19 | Tupone | what is the MX? GE Force ? |
| 23:18.24 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:18.29 | Patlabor221 | GF 2MX |
| 23:18.41 | Tupone | like mine :) |
| 23:18.48 | Patlabor221 | it's a very common card |
| 23:19.23 | Chestal | somehow they all suck |
| 23:19.26 | Tupone | perfect programming language is .. silence |
| 23:19.29 | Patlabor221 | make your own |
| 23:19.35 | larsl | Prolog is cool. =) |
| 23:19.36 | Patlabor221 | call it visual Chestal |
| 23:19.42 | orchid | hehe |
| 23:19.51 | orchid | Chess ++ |
| 23:19.59 | Patlabor221 | then VC could mean something else :) |
| 23:20.01 | Chestal | I looked at haskell and ocaml recently |
| 23:20.09 | Chestal | ocaml is interesting, but not good enough |
| 23:20.17 | brlcad | ML at least sucks elegantly |
| 23:20.31 | Chestal | ocaml has the advantage of being one of the fastest out there |
| 23:20.42 | Chestal | but OO is not its greatest strength |
| 23:20.45 | brlcad | and is more maintained that sml/nj I believe |
| 23:20.49 | brlcad | OO?! |
| 23:20.52 | Tupone | I like very much Eiffel, but I didn't write a line of code with that, and know nobody that had |
| 23:21.07 | Chestal | it might be worth to reinvestigate Eiffel |
| 23:21.36 | Chestal | I haven't yet found a language which does not have the burden of unnecessary abstraction performance penatly |
| 23:21.42 | Chestal | C++ is still doing best there |
| 23:21.48 | Tupone | Ada95 |
| 23:21.52 | brlcad | heh |
| 23:22.00 | Chestal | hmm, good idea |
| 23:22.19 | Tupone | that's my true/only language :) |
| 23:22.30 | Chestal | which reminds me, I wanted to investigate the assembly out |
| 23:22.32 | Chestal | put |
| 23:23.45 | Tupone | I use geneWeb, its incredible and its Ocaml written. So I suppose Ocaml is great too |
| 23:24.22 | Chestal | it has some great features |
| 23:24.27 | larsl | brlcad: It looks like bzfs doesn't actually set BZDB_WORLDSIZE in BZDB when it's told to do so. |
| 23:24.47 | larsl | [ll@gnorf bzflag]$ src/bzfs/bzfs -worldsize 500 |
| 23:24.47 | larsl | using world size of "0.000000" |
| 23:25.11 | Chestal | but I grew so fond of C++ zero-penalty generics and RAII that I'd have a hard time without them |
| 23:26.07 | Chestal | python is also interesting, but it#s too slow for some things |
| 23:26.10 | *** part/#bzflag drinian (~drinian@pcp03995358pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:26.18 | Chestal | and Java and C# are just plain medicore |
| 23:26.23 | Chestal | eh, mediocre |
| 23:26.52 | larsl | string_util::format("%d",atof(argv[i])*2) parses "500" to "0". |
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| 23:28.24 | Chestal | format is liek printf, i.e. not typesafe? |
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| 23:29.21 | larsl | I don't know... but string_util::format("%d", 1000).c_str() gives me "0". |
| 23:29.44 | Chestal | hmm, _that_ should work |
| 23:29.54 | Chestal | "%d",1000.0 is supposed to fail I guess |
| 23:29.55 | brlcad | bug |
| 23:30.20 | brlcad | either way can be made to work |
| 23:31.11 | Chestal | it's using ... |
| 23:31.19 | Chestal | so all type information is lost |
| 23:33.48 | Tupone | Chestal: do you mind if I remove "bzfls seems not to talk the new protocol correctly .." |
| 23:34.20 | Chestal | not if it does now |
| 23:34.29 | Tupone | bzfls has changed .. the shutdownAcceptClient string is not more in bzflag |
| 23:34.41 | Chestal | I never tried the new bzfls |
| 23:34.52 | Tupone | so I think there is no way to get the old message |
| 23:34.53 | Chestal | you can probably remove it then |
| 23:35.29 | KR | something funny going on at ducati |
| 23:35.42 | KR | weird lags, nr's |
| 23:35.54 | KR | ~d |
| 23:36.03 | Tupone | larsl: I'm committing BUGS, bzadmin bug is off? |
| 23:36.21 | |tim| | KR, that happened about an hour ago too |
| 23:36.22 | larsl | Tupone: No, I just updated it. =) |
| 23:36.44 | larsl | It doesn't exit anymore, but it doesn't redraw correctly after a resize. |
| 23:36.56 | Tupone | K |
| 23:38.08 | KR | |tim| - any of the same players on now as then - the Osiris person had like 450 lag, but wasn't getting kicked - the i49a8d guy was extremely hard to hit |
| 23:38.20 | KR | altho he had low latency |
| 23:38.44 | orchid | thats yoyox i think kr |
| 23:38.51 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): Just fixing for already fixed bug |
| 23:39.03 | KR | yes thats who u said the other day |
| 23:39.23 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (CmdLineOptions.cxx): string_util::format() expects an int for %d, change atof() to atoi() |
| 23:39.41 | KR | bzg was taking great delight in killing me today |
| 23:39.45 | KR | she's a sadist |
| 23:39.58 | trepan | larsl, get the lockup problem solved in bzadmin? |
| 23:40.01 | KR | whats the opposite of misogeny? |
| 23:40.05 | KR | :) |
| 23:40.12 | orchid | dont take it personal, it delights me killing all you guys |
| 23:40.28 | KR | gee, I thought I was your fav victim... |
| 23:40.31 | larsl | trepan: It doesn't exit now, but it needs to update the windows when it receives a WSIGCH. |
| 23:41.02 | larsl | brlcad: With that change I can connect to and play on a server using -worldsize and a world file. |
| 23:41.13 | trepan | did you go with masking, or by ignoring the -1 code? |
| 23:41.52 | larsl | trepan: Ignoring the return code, it appearently wasn't an error after all. bzflag is ignoring it too, it just means "no message received". |
| 23:42.27 | larsl | Can't mask since the signal must be caught so the windows can be updated properly. |
| 23:42.29 | trepan | ya, but that causes a lockup for me if the server dies ungravefully |
| 23:42.35 | larsl | It does? |
| 23:42.40 | trepan | yup |
| 23:42.43 | larsl | Hm. |
| 23:43.32 | trepan | masking should work, i thought |
| 23:43.46 | larsl | It should exit when the ServerLink gets in a bad state, if it doesn't do that when the server dies it must be a bug in ServerLink. |
| 23:43.55 | trepan | it's not like setting the handler to IGN, signal just gets heldoff |
| 23:44.16 | larsl | trepan: Oh, it's received later? |
| 23:44.20 | trepan | i tried ignoring the -1 code, and it froze in stdboth and curses ui's |
| 23:44.40 | trepan | i think it's received later, i could be wrong, i'll go check |
| 23:45.28 | trepan | ya, there's a sigpending() call, signals that were raised while blocked, i think they still get received |
| 23:45.34 | brlcad | can someone test playground I and II, then? |
| 23:45.41 | brlcad | those were using worldsize |
| 23:46.31 | larsl | brlcad: Works now. |
| 23:46.45 | brlcad | shweet |
| 23:46.52 | larsl | If the pyramids are supposed to be outside the walls. |
| 23:46.54 | trepan | playground I & III worked, couldn't connect to II |
| 23:47.07 | larsl | Some of them are even outside the mountains. =) |
| 23:47.38 | brlcad | did III have buildings? |
| 23:47.49 | brlcad | never mind.. |
| 23:47.56 | brlcad | forgot I changed the map |
| 23:48.54 | trepan | larsl: i you're gonna do it with masks, might want to add block/unblock calls into bzsignal.c |
| 23:49.10 | brlcad | instead of -1, that should really be EINTR |
| 23:49.41 | brlcad | oh, you changed it, never mind yet again |
| 23:50.24 | trepan | then again, probably a portability nuissance going that way |
| 23:51.12 | trepan | easier to return 0 if errno == EINTR |
| 23:52.56 | larsl | Good night. |
| 23:53.33 | JBdiGriz | i'm able to connect to the monster brlcad world now |
| 23:54.58 | Tupone | brlcad: have defined pyram outside the world? |
| 23:57.08 | brlcad | I don't remember |
| 23:57.37 | Tupone | and why they are? |
| 23:58.35 | brlcad | ah.. yes. they are outside. that was because I was twiddling with the -worldsize to see if it made a difference |
| 23:58.39 | brlcad | fixed now. |
| 23:58.42 | brlcad | I think. |
| 23:58.57 | brlcad | yea.. should be fixed now |