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| 00:32.05 | HEINOLA | can someone see if they can connect to a game at hpc.servegame.com |
| 00:36.28 | Noodleman | HEINOLA: which port? |
| 00:37.09 | HEINOLA | 1700 |
| 00:37.20 | HEINOLA | i see ya |
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| 00:37.39 | Noodleman | it works :-) |
| 00:37.41 | HEINOLA | sry the conn is slow just setting up for when i get faster :) |
| 00:37.45 | HEINOLA | ty |
| 00:38.02 | HEINOLA | im l;ooking for StoneHenge CTF still |
| 00:38.04 | HEINOLA | lol |
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| 01:06.21 | Big_Barrel | anyone want a nmatch? |
| 01:07.10 | Quol | ping |
| 01:14.54 | Noodleman | Quol: pong |
| 01:15.15 | Noodleman | ping time's slow today :-) |
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| 01:38.13 | Big_Barrel | noodle match? |
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| 02:43.33 | Patlabor221 | anyone know how hard it would be to set up automated CVS snaps? |
| 02:43.38 | Patlabor221 | not on SF? |
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| 03:04.38 | Chikorita | any stonehenge ctf admins here? |
| 03:06.28 | Chikorita | if any1 interested deres a cheater named "doc" on , wen he jumps he can stop mid-air |
| 03:06.32 | Chikorita | bye |
| 03:13.53 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (2 files): they no longer use bitset |
| 03:24.41 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (configure.in): added test for headers and stdint types (cannot rely on the new AC_CREATE_STDINT_H -- too new). |
| 03:25.53 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (common.h): the stdint types should be provided by configure and config.h now |
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| 03:39.05 | ElectricElf | ~xmission |
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| 05:36.38 | HEINOLA | got a off topic question lol |
| 05:37.01 | HEINOLA | for linux mandrake how do i change my puters name :) |
| 05:37.08 | HEINOLA | from local host |
| 06:19.17 | creeperz | ~weather 57350 |
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| 12:14.13 | ares_home | morning |
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| 13:57.16 | Chestal | hi orchid |
| 13:57.24 | orchid | hello Chestal |
| 13:58.01 | Chestal | learner: you alive? |
| 13:58.20 | learner | hi chestal |
| 13:58.24 | learner | what'd I break? :) |
| 13:58.36 | Chestal | learner: /usr/bin/autoheader2.13: Symbol `int16_t' is not covered by /usr/share/autoconf2.13/acconfig.h |
| 13:59.46 | learner | my goodness.. 2.13 |
| 14:00.35 | learner | I figured maybe pre 2.52 or even 2.4x, but not that old.. :) |
| 14:01.45 | Chestal | I also have 2.5, but 2.13 is default |
| 14:02.47 | Chestal | this is debian unstable |
| 14:03.15 | Quol | mornin people |
| 14:03.30 | Chestal | you Canadians get up early on Sunday |
| 14:04.01 | learner | mornin' Quol |
| 14:04.11 | orchid | hi q |
| 14:04.13 | Quol | Chestal: With the kids it's not easy to sleep in - I usually have to get up between 6 and 7 AM |
| 14:04.19 | orchid | Chestal: i got up at 7 |
| 14:04.35 | Chestal | perverts, you're all perverts! ;-) |
| 14:04.38 | learner | Chestal: I'm not awake yet, but I'm not Canadian either |
| 14:04.44 | Quol | hey orchid - what are you doing getting up at 7 :) |
| 14:04.58 | Quol | learner: did you go to beed yet? |
| 14:05.00 | Quol | :) |
| 14:05.03 | orchid | Quol: its a waste to sleep in |
| 14:05.24 | Quol | orchid: ya I know, but then you have kids and you WISH you could :) |
| 14:05.32 | Chestal | orchid: it's only a waste when you have something better to do |
| 14:05.52 | Chestal | (and would actually do it) |
| 14:06.01 | orchid | :) |
| 14:06.21 | Quol | how's the weather in TO bzg? bright and sunny like over here? |
| 14:06.43 | orchid | yeah its lovely |
| 14:06.55 | Chestal | all grey here |
| 14:07.41 | Chestal | but it's fitting because in Germany it's Commemoration of the Dead Sunday (Totensonntag) |
| 14:11.26 | orchid | Quol: wait for me! |
| 14:11.36 | Quol | orchid: I will save you some |
| 14:11.39 | Quol | :) |
| 14:11.43 | learner | heh |
| 14:12.00 | Quol | by the time you drive down here though I am afraid that they won't be hot anymore :) |
| 14:12.30 | orchid | you havent seen me drive |
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| 14:21.51 | Michaelh | . |
| 14:27.11 | Michaelh | ah so |
| 14:29.28 | Quol | lol Michaelh - there isn't too much on there.. |
| 14:30.23 | Michaelh | Of course the real question is what is going to happen to my hero Michael Jackson ....... |
| 14:30.26 | Michaelh | sniff |
| 14:31.04 | Chestal | that police photograph of him looks scary (even considering Michael's standards) |
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| 14:31.59 | Michaelh | sure did |
| 14:32.53 | Quol | well people - I will check back in in a couple of hours...later |
| 14:33.01 | Michaelh | bye |
| 14:33.32 | Michaelh | Does that mean he plugs himself into the puter? |
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| 15:17.46 | Michaelh | . |
| 15:19.16 | Chestal | uh |
| 15:19.28 | Chestal | I just noticed that there is a huge hole in Java's static type system with regard to arrays |
| 15:19.33 | Chestal | that's evil |
| 15:23.55 | Chestal | it allows implicit upcasting of array types, that makes no sense |
| 15:28.50 | Michaelh | from parent class to child or vise versa |
| 15:30.15 | learner | hi tupone |
| 15:30.37 | Chestal | String[] a1=new String[1]; Object[] a2=a1; a2[0]=new Integer(5); // runtime error |
| 15:31.26 | Chestal | a2=a1 should be disallowed by the compiler |
| 15:31.56 | Chestal | but Java allows it for some reason which escapes me |
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| 15:32.53 | Michaelh | hmmm |
| 15:33.10 | Tupone | hi learner |
| 15:33.34 | Michaelh | that's sort of the question of whether an array of objects is actually an array or actually an object |
| 15:34.57 | learner | Chestal: was that autoconf thing an error, or a warning? |
| 15:34.59 | Chestal | well, String is an Object in OO talk, but an array of String surely isn't an array of Objects |
| 15:35.28 | Chestal | learner: no configure script is generated |
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| 16:16.52 | learner | Hmm.. Chestal. |
| 16:17.11 | learner | Debian guys are telling me that the default is not 2.13 for stable |
| 16:18.14 | Chestal | I am not using stable, but unstable |
| 16:18.21 | Chestal | and I have 2.13 and 2.5 installed |
| 16:18.26 | learner | so it should be even newer? :) |
| 16:18.27 | Chestal | I guess you can even choose your default in that case,not sure |
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| 16:18.52 | learner | Would it be unreasonable to require at least 2.50? |
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| 16:19.17 | learner | it's only supposed to be used by us developers |
| 16:19.30 | learner | so we're talking the easiest way to support 6-10 people |
| 16:22.33 | Chestal | well, I don't know. 2.13 is the default on my home debian system and also on the system here at work which is administrated by someone else and has about 50 times the packages installed I have at home |
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| 17:07.30 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (configure.in): |
| 17:07.31 | CIA | modify the inttypes ac_check_type macros to ensure that the newer check is performed. |
| 17:07.31 | CIA | require at least autoconf 2.14 (by many accounts, a lot changed after 2.13). lets see if we can get the few devs to agree that requiring a dev tool to be more up to date than what might be installed on a system by default would be a very "good thing" |
| 17:13.06 | learner | heh |
| 17:13.41 | Tupone | I don't remember the syntax, actually. How should I vote on bzflag? |
| 17:13.49 | learner | that was correct |
| 17:14.05 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.09 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.30 | Tupone | and to change just to kick? |
| 17:14.42 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.49 | learner | but bans are only temporary |
| 17:15.49 | learner | an individual cannot continue to ask to start a poll over and over, so if you want the person removed, a temporary ban is better |
| 17:16.48 | learner | because if you /poll kick learner and it works, and then I rejoin, you cannot /poll kick learner again until after a timeout (default is 3 minutes or something) |
| 17:16.54 | Tupone | Understand! |
| 17:17.30 | Tupone | learner: remember I got a sigsegv while you were superkill-ing |
| 17:17.45 | JBdiGriz | Evidently some packages don't build with the newer autoconf. None of it affects me or my systems. |
| 17:18.17 | learner | some packages? |
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| 17:18.24 | learner | tupone: yes, I remember |
| 17:18.26 | Tupone | from memory, I was writing while I receive that superkill |
| 17:19.05 | Tupone | Someone should indagate ? on that (someone could be me, when finished fighting with debian) |
| 17:19.13 | JBdiGriz | From the FreeBSD 2.13 port description |
| 17:19.20 | JBdiGriz | This is the legacy 2.13 version of autoconf. It is explictly for use with |
| 17:19.20 | JBdiGriz | older software packages that are not buildable with the current autoconf. |
| 17:19.27 | learner | oh yeah |
| 17:20.15 | learner | it's not a matter of supporting everyone, though -- it's a matter of just placing a bound on the developer tools of "us" (<10 people) |
| 17:20.46 | learner | the source distribution should have the makefiles and configure script generated |
| 17:21.26 | Tupone | the new distribution includes all different automake/autoconf version, so just asking to get the new, possibly without removing the old |
| 17:21.34 | Tupone | s/ion/ions/ |
| 17:21.56 | learner | otherwise we go through hoops in the configure.in macros and hoops in the source code, just because of 1 or 2 people |
| 17:24.17 | learner | 2.13 was released 3 or 4 years ago... |
| 17:27.28 | learner | heck, even the gcc core team requires a 2.5x version, iirc |
| 17:29.39 | JBdiGriz | Does it affect anyone? |
| 17:30.18 | Chestal | hmm |
| 17:30.28 | Chestal | actually, debian has wrapepr scripts around autoconf/autoheader 2.13/2.50 |
| 17:30.38 | Chestal | they try to be clever and invoke the correct version automatically |
| 17:32.54 | Chestal | whatever, current CVS works for me now |
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| 17:46.46 | learner | Chestal: that fixed it for you? heh |
| 17:46.54 | learner | didn't expect that, but okay :) |
| 17:47.06 | learner | just hoped |
| 17:55.50 | larsl | learner: I wouldn't mind if we stopped supporting autoconf < 2.14 (or automake < 1.6, for that matter). But current CVS seems to work for me with autoconf 2.13. What problem are you talking about in the latest commit message? |
| 18:03.35 | Chestal | larsl: are you sure it is using 2.13? |
| 18:05.26 | larsl | Chestal: Hehe, it isn't. "rpm -qf `which autoconf`" said autoconf-2.13, but the header in configure says "Generated by GNU Autoconf 2.57." |
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| 18:06.18 | larsl | Looks like autoconf 2.57 got installed on top of 2.13 when I updated Mandrake. |
| 18:06.42 | Chestal | larsl: or maybe Mandrake is using clever wrapper scripts, too |
| 18:07.05 | Chestal | paranuss:thilo[~/quell]>autoconf --version Autoconf version 2.13 |
| 18:07.12 | larsl | Yes, that seems to be it... /usr/bin/autoconf is a link to /usr/lib/autoconf/ac-wrapper.pl |
| 18:07.20 | Chestal | paranuss:thilo[bzflag]>autoconf --version autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57 |
| 18:22.15 | KR | input/ideas needed: have a system, when I power it on I get a single beep from POST, I can hear the hdd spin up, it's led shows activity, and the cd rom led also lights up, but monitor remains blank |
| 18:22.23 | KR | have tried other vid cards no success |
| 18:22.59 | KR | seems that the POST test is successful, could vid chipset be shot? |
| 19:01.31 | Patlabor221 | if you tried other cards, then it would be odd that the card is shot |
| 19:01.40 | Patlabor221 | your monitor could be dead |
| 19:03.23 | KR | checked around, found out the one beep means DRAM is not refreshing |
| 19:03.29 | KR | verdict: dead mobo |
| 19:03.29 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 19:03.34 | KR | nbut... |
| 19:03.35 | Patlabor221 | or bad ram |
| 19:04.01 | KR | found receipt from googlegear - 12/12/02, w/1 year warranty :) |
| 19:04.10 | Patlabor221 | heh, coo |
| 19:04.22 | KR | skating in uder the deadline |
| 19:04.31 | KR | thx for help Pat |
| 19:04.42 | Patlabor221 | if you have some other ram, you may want to try it |
| 19:04.48 | KR | will do |
| 19:04.49 | Patlabor221 | in case its not the mobo |
| 19:04.57 | KR | this is Kingston thats in there nopw |
| 19:05.00 | Patlabor221 | or if you have multipple dimms in there, try it with just one |
| 19:05.11 | KR | tried w/1, and w.none - same result |
| 19:05.25 | Patlabor221 | yeah probably mobo then |
| 19:05.53 | KR | it just quit qorking one day a few months ago, today I finally got around to messing with it - glad I did with that purchase date :) |
| 19:05.58 | KR | working |
| 19:11.16 | larsl | Ew, "return *this" for a operator= can't be good. |
| 19:11.54 | Chestal | why not? |
| 19:12.02 | Patlabor221 | that's what it should be |
| 19:12.11 | Patlabor221 | so you can do i = j= k= 0; |
| 19:12.25 | Patlabor221 | makes it return a refrence |
| 19:12.27 | larsl | What if j goes out of scope while i is still in scope? |
| 19:12.38 | Patlabor221 | isnt' that why it's const |
| 19:13.01 | Chestal | uhm? scope? What's the issue? |
| 19:13.07 | Patlabor221 | and it's just passed to J for a copy |
| 19:13.27 | Patlabor221 | so I is not using J as a ref, it just copys it's data in it's assignment |
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| 19:16.53 | Chestal | what is a sexy language to learn? Maybe ocaml? |
| 19:17.02 | larsl | Haskell is rather sexy. |
| 19:17.26 | Chestal | Haskell is functional? |
| 19:17.29 | larsl | Yes. |
| 19:18.07 | larsl | Logic languages are fun too, it's a completely different way of thinking. |
| 19:18.43 | Chestal | but I prefer to learn a language in which I get things done :-) |
| 19:20.03 | larsl | Bah. =) |
| 19:20.54 | larsl | "return *this" is goos for operator=, I mixed up the operands. But it's not good when it's the only line in the function body. =) |
| 19:20.59 | larsl | s/goos/good/ |
| 19:21.57 | Chestal | ghc is haskell, yes? |
| 19:22.24 | larsl | I think so. |
| 19:22.40 | larsl | There is another interpreter too, I don't remember the name. |
| 19:24.20 | larsl | "Hugs" |
| 19:27.29 | Chestal | compiled ocaml seems to be fast |
| 19:27.49 | larsl | Is that object oriented? |
| 19:27.58 | Chestal | most interestingly it is extremly fast on recursion, it beats gcc and jit java for the ackerman function by a factor of 3 |
| 19:28.10 | Chestal | object oriented and functional, has multimethods and type inference |
| 19:28.39 | Chestal | not sure I liek the syntax, it could win by using some more special characters, a bit too chatty for me |
| 19:30.17 | Chestal | example of an ocaml program using classes: http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/bench/methcall/methcall.ocaml |
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| 19:58.47 | JBdiGriz | Bonjour Q |
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| 21:23.00 | Tupone | hi bzgirl |
| 21:23.03 | orchid | hi |
| 21:23.27 | Tupone | you got snow, too |
| 21:24.55 | orchid | not yet :) |
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| 21:29.15 | TimRiker | old autoconf must work. revert the patch for only supporting newer version. |
| 21:31.07 | Chestal | current version works for me now (Debian) |
| 21:32.19 | TimRiker | debian what? |
| 21:32.31 | TimRiker | it does not work on my old redhat 7.3 box. |
| 21:32.34 | Chestal | unstable |
| 21:32.59 | Chestal | the version before didn't work |
| 21:32.59 | TimRiker | and it used to. debian stable should also work. |
| 21:33.03 | Chestal | whcih autoconf versions dou you have installed? |
| 21:33.18 | Chestal | looks like most systems have a dual install, liek 2.13 and 2.5x |
| 21:33.28 | Chestal | and use a wrapper script which automatically chooses which one to call |
| 21:34.02 | TimRiker | [timr@cn014a0868018l1 bzflag]$ autoconf --version |
| 21:34.02 | TimRiker | Autoconf version 2.13 |
| 21:34.06 | TimRiker | bbl8tr |
| 21:36.49 | captain_proton | thats quite a hostname |
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| 22:35.21 | xlulux | hi guys |
| 22:35.36 | xlulux | im having trouble with my video config on bzflag |
| 22:40.23 | Tupone | what kind of problems |
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| 22:41.37 | Tupone | xlulux: ? |
| 22:48.35 | xlulux | it wont use my video card |
| 22:48.40 | xlulux | so it uses indirect |
| 22:48.46 | xlulux | and it used to use my video card |
| 22:49.50 | Tupone | you mean, don't use 3d acceleration? |
| 22:50.14 | Tupone | OS? |
| 22:50.29 | Tupone | windows or Linux? |
| 22:50.49 | Peter | Mac OS X. |
| 22:51.31 | larsl | Linux. =) |
| 22:51.38 | larsl | Unless his client is lying. |
| 22:54.05 | Tupone | xlulux: try to see the output of glxinfo but do not put that here: it's too big |
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| 23:05.16 | xlulux | Tupone : what does glxtell me? |
| 23:05.23 | xlulux | glxinfo * |
| 23:05.47 | Tupone | send me privately the content |
| 23:07.10 | Tupone | the very few initial line, says about who is accelerating |
| 23:10.06 | Tupone | you are using Mesa, so only software rendering |
| 23:10.28 | xlulux | how do i change that? |
| 23:11.17 | Tupone | xlulux: what kind of video board you got? |
| 23:11.37 | xlulux | rage fury pro |
| 23:11.46 | xlulux | 32 mb video |
| 23:12.13 | Tupone | it seems to me that you are only having software rendering. |
| 23:12.31 | xlulux | ill try to change that with YAST |
| 23:13.05 | Tupone | It's not something about bzflag. |
| 23:13.08 | xlulux | my config on YaST says i have 3d acceleration enabled |
| 23:13.33 | Tupone | but that glx says direct rendering No |
| 23:13.57 | Tupone | I'm not a GL purist, but I imagine that |
| 23:14.19 | xlulux | so where can i go to change that? |
| 23:14.34 | Tupone | e.g. my glxinfo gives: |
| 23:14.43 | Tupone | name of display: :0.0 |
| 23:14.43 | Tupone | display: :0 screen: 0 |
| 23:14.43 | Tupone | direct rendering: Yes |
| 23:14.43 | Tupone | server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation |
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| 23:15.31 | Tupone | what did you change from when it worked ? |
| 23:15.38 | xlulux | nothing |
| 23:15.57 | xlulux | i just restarted the computer and it gave me taht crap when i went back to play the game |
| 23:16.02 | xlulux | and i shut it down nicely |
| 23:16.36 | xlulux | shutdown -r now |
| 23:17.27 | Tupone | when bzflag started did you get the string correctly: e.g. I got GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! |
| 23:17.46 | xlulux | no |
| 23:17.53 | xlulux | it said something like "using indirect" |
| 23:18.03 | Tupone | it was before or now |
| 23:18.04 | xlulux | but it did say that before i shut it down |
| 23:18.56 | Tupone | how many FPS do you have ? |
| 23:19.02 | xlulux | how do i check? |
| 23:19.14 | Tupone | with bzflag, press T |
| 23:19.26 | sn0w_kitty | type letter T |
| 23:19.28 | sn0w_kitty | ya |
| 23:19.28 | Tupone | near the HUD you get a number |
| 23:19.46 | sn0w_kitty | wut duz Y do? |
| 23:19.46 | Tupone | hi Chickorita |
| 23:20.04 | sn0w_kitty | Y gives u a numba too on da HUD |
| 23:20.08 | trepan | Y -> time per frame |
| 23:20.10 | sn0w_kitty | hi tupone :) |
| 23:20.17 | sn0w_kitty | o i c |
| 23:20.25 | xlulux | 3 |
| 23:20.32 | xlulux | when im stopped |
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| 23:21.00 | sn0w_kitty | wut duz time per frame mean ..? i kno wut frames per sec means.. |
| 23:21.04 | sn0w_kitty | nhi BB |
| 23:21.17 | sn0w_kitty | wow 3 iz low |
| 23:21.17 | larsl | sn0w_kitty: The inverse. |
| 23:21.28 | trepan | Y = 1 / T ;) |
| 23:21.29 | sn0w_kitty | 3 is not good |
| 23:21.58 | sn0w_kitty | o okies thnx , i understand now |
| 23:22.02 | Tupone | I suppose that your is just a bad OS configuration! However, move yout ~/.bzconfig in another place and try to let bzflag compute the best for you |
| 23:22.22 | sn0w_kitty | so like 30ms = 30 milliseconds it takes for 1 frame to show , eh? |
| 23:22.46 | trepan | yup |
| 23:22.49 | sn0w_kitty | k |
| 23:23.17 | sn0w_kitty | so low Y , high T iz good . |
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| 23:23.26 | sn0w_kitty | high Y , an low T iz bad |
| 23:23.31 | sn0w_d0ggy | hi kitty |
| 23:23.35 | sn0w_kitty | hi merry |
| 23:23.39 | sn0w_d0ggy | y rn't u on Aims? |
| 23:23.39 | sn0w_kitty | i was waitin 4 u :) |
| 23:23.54 | sn0w_kitty | nnow i can change mee away message ;P |
| 23:23.56 | Tupone | but T is more reliable than Y |
| 23:23.58 | sn0w_d0ggy | sry I took so long |
| 23:24.04 | sn0w_kitty | dats ok |
| 23:24.05 | sn0w_d0ggy | what's ur sn? |
| 23:24.12 | sn0w_d0ggy | my comp froze |
| 23:24.26 | sn0w_kitty | o aww |
| 23:24.33 | sn0w_kitty | Chikumz33 my sn |
| 23:24.45 | sn0w_d0ggy | it sayz ur not on |
| 23:24.48 | trepan | larsl: played with bzadmin for the first time, i like it |
| 23:25.12 | larsl | trepan: On Linux/UNIX? |
| 23:25.18 | sn0w_d0ggy | hey larsl |
| 23:25.24 | sn0w_kitty | sn0w_d0ggy:okies brb look 4 mee k? |
| 23:25.28 | larsl | sn0w_d0ggy: Hello. |
| 23:25.30 | trepan | larsl: yup, debian stable |
| 23:25.31 | sn0w_kitty | bye all |
| 23:25.34 | sn0w_d0ggy | wait |
| 23:25.38 | sn0w_d0ggy | look for u..... |
| 23:25.39 | sn0w_d0ggy | nm |
| 23:25.41 | Grumbler | ~pillow sn0w_d0ggy |
| 23:25.44 | | ACTION starts a pillow fight with sn0w_d0ggy |
| 23:25.44 | sn0w_d0ggy | grr |
| 23:25.44 | sn0w_d0ggy | lol |
| 23:25.46 | sn0w_d0ggy | not again |
| 23:25.54 | larsl | trepan: Does it exit for you too if you change the terminal size while it's running? |
| 23:25.56 | sn0w_d0ggy | ~pillow Grumbler |
| 23:25.59 | | ACTION starts a pillow fight with Grumbler |
| 23:26.08 | Grumbler | :) |
| 23:26.13 | Grumbler | have a good night |
| 23:26.29 | trepan | larsl: yup |
| 23:26.36 | sn0w_d0ggy | thx |
| 23:26.54 | larsl | trepan: I don't know why it does that, but it's annoying. |
| 23:27.00 | sn0w_d0ggy | u too |
| 23:27.02 | sn0w_d0ggy | :) |
| 23:27.05 | larsl | Same thing if I send it a SIGWINCH. |
| 23:27.07 | trepan | heh, i never resize my xterm anyways |
| 23:27.26 | Big_Barrel | anyone want a match? |
| 23:27.34 | sn0w_d0ggy | hi bb |
| 23:27.35 | sn0w_d0ggy | :) |
| 23:27.37 | Big_Barrel | hi :) |
| 23:27.45 | larsl | Me neither, I didn't discover it until I thought "Hmm, I wonder what will happen if I resize the terminal window?" |
| 23:28.28 | Tupone | larsl: that happen with curses? |
| 23:29.11 | larsl | Tupone: Yes. |
| 23:29.21 | larsl | Not with stdin and/or stdout, of course. |
| 23:29.55 | Tupone | so I cannot test now. I'm still fighting with debian, no curses now :( |
| 23:31.31 | sn0w_d0ggy | bye all |
| 23:34.17 | Big_Barrel | anyone interested in joining a new team? |
| 23:34.28 | Big_Barrel | looks like the leader wants to be super active like HoW :) |
| 23:46.08 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-24-2-32.stny.rr.com) |
| 23:46.20 | Big_Barrel | howdy calico :) |
| 23:46.26 | Big_Barrel | long time no see |
| 23:46.27 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 23:46.29 | Big_Barrel | j/k |
| 23:46.43 | calico | are you following me |
| 23:46.48 | Big_Barrel | nah |
| 23:46.51 | calico | :) |
| 23:46.53 | Big_Barrel | i was here first |
| 23:46.54 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 23:47.03 | Big_Barrel | get KR |
| 23:47.06 | Big_Barrel | the ass face |
| 23:47.07 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 23:49.17 | Big_Barrel | calico you there? |
| 23:49.23 | Big_Barrel | KR wants to match |
| 23:49.29 | Big_Barrel | i found him |
| 23:49.42 | calico | who is your teammie |
| 23:49.55 | Big_Barrel | freelancer |
| 23:50.01 | KR | ok where |
| 23:50.01 | calico | what server and port |
| 23:50.08 | Big_Barrel | proxs.bzflag.org:7000 |
| 23:50.16 | KR | and gimme a couple minutes to finish up here |
| 23:50.19 | KR | c u there |
| 23:50.20 | Big_Barrel | the best american server around these parts :) |
| 23:50.25 | Big_Barrel | nok cu guys there :) |
| 23:50.27 | calico | cu there |
| 23:54.44 | trepan | larsl: it dumps because select is returning with -1 in ServerLink.c |
| 23:54.51 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (SceneRenderer.cxx): Reduced by about 4 the acc/sec to BZDB("lighting") |
| 23:55.25 | larsl | Oho. |
| 23:55.45 | trepan | larsl: Interrupted system call, resize sending signals maybe? |
| 23:55.54 | larsl | Could that possibly be KEY_RESIZE in ncurses? |
| 23:55.59 | larsl | Or that. |
| 23:56.40 | larsl | So I need to check if select() is interrupted or if it really is at EOF. |
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| 23:57.22 | trepan | yup, probably easier then doing masking |
| 23:57.37 | trepan | don't think windows has pselect anyways |
| 23:59.09 | larsl | I don't want to change ServerLink.cxx though. That might affect bzflag too. |