| 00:00.55 | HEINOLA | when i make a shell script to run bzfs with custom map and |
| 00:01.08 | HEINOLA | ect i get alot of command not found |
| 00:01.56 | HEINOLA | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.57 | HEINOLA | ./stone.sh: line 58: -st: command not found |
| 00:01.57 | HEINOLA | ./stone.sh: line 61: -sw: command not found |
| 00:01.57 | HEINOLA | ./stone.sh: line 64: +f: command not found |
| 00:01.57 | HEINOLA | . |
| 00:02.18 | Tupone | you don't have to execute |
| 00:02.26 | Tupone | you have to pass to bzfs |
| 00:03.03 | HEINOLA | i can write a shell script for start correct ? |
| 00:03.08 | HEINOLA | ill try passing it |
| 00:03.10 | HEINOLA | brb |
| 00:03.26 | Tupone | on the script you have to have something like : |
| 00:03.42 | Tupone | /usr/games/bzfs -config your-config.txt |
| 00:04.21 | HEINOLA | ok looking |
| 00:04.58 | HEINOLA | brb washing dishes lol ty |
| 00:15.28 | HEINOLA | -config bad argument |
| 00:15.48 | Tupone | -conf |
| 00:15.57 | HEINOLA | ok trying |
| 00:25.59 | HEINOLA | figuring out why my map wont load brb |
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| 00:26.48 | HEINOLA | do i use the ful path if the conf.txt and test.sh are in the same dir ? |
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| 00:28.04 | Tupone | I have never tried to do that, so don't know. Try to put that |
| 00:28.09 | Tupone | bzgirl: hi |
| 00:28.20 | orchid | hello |
| 00:28.48 | HEINOLA | hello |
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| 00:36.17 | HEINOLA | . |
| 00:36.37 | JBDiGriz | learner: I checked the release notes on the xcode draft update. cross development only works on native xcode targets, not classic xcode targets. |
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| 00:42.18 | sn0w_d0ggy | Hello |
| 00:45.42 | sn0w_d0ggy | hrmm |
| 00:45.47 | sn0w_d0ggy | ~seen sn0w_kitty |
| 00:45.49 | | sn0w_kitty <Chikorita@ACD063D6.ipt.aol.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 6h 24m 22s ago, saying: 'hi L :)'. |
| 00:46.30 | sn0w_d0ggy | ~seen Chikorita |
| 00:46.31 | | chikorita <Chikorita@ACD0E277.ipt.aol.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #project24, 1d 18h 32m 29s ago, saying: '!google sn0w_kitty'. |
| 00:46.55 | sn0w_d0ggy | !weather batavia, il |
| 00:46.57 | Guu | sn0w_d0ggy: The current temperature in Batavia, Illinois is 54°F. Conditions are Light Rain. |
| 00:56.59 | *** join/#bzflag Big_Barrel (~chatzilla@adsl-64-219-213-203.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 00:57.12 | Big_Barrel | anyone want a match? |
| 01:01.43 | sn0w_d0ggy | heh |
| 01:01.44 | sn0w_d0ggy | bb |
| 01:01.50 | sn0w_d0ggy | that's what ya always doo |
| 01:01.52 | sn0w_d0ggy | no |
| 01:02.03 | sn0w_d0ggy | actually it was Noodleman that asked that last night |
| 01:02.28 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you should get more players in the leauges BB :) |
| 01:02.49 | sn0w_d0ggy | hehee |
| 01:05.07 | sn0w_d0ggy | where is every1 tonight?? |
| 01:16.03 | sn0w_d0ggy | Eyo? |
| 01:16.06 | sn0w_d0ggy | hrmmhm |
| 01:23.44 | sn0w_d0ggy | !lart sn0w_d0ggy |
| 01:23.47 | Big_Barrel | yes like i said in the forum.....we need to start holding interactive HTML guns packeted with php scirpts and hold it to their heads and make em play :) |
| 01:24.03 | sn0w_d0ggy | sorta, like, sudden |
| 01:24.05 | sn0w_d0ggy | LoL |
| 01:24.08 | sn0w_d0ggy | bb |
| 01:24.09 | sn0w_d0ggy | :D |
| 01:24.22 | sn0w_d0ggy | !lart big_barrel |
| 01:24.29 | sn0w_d0ggy | hehehe |
| 01:24.36 | sn0w_d0ggy | !lart me |
| 01:24.43 | sn0w_d0ggy | heh |
| 01:25.44 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 01:27.45 | orchid | Big_Barrel: what was that about? |
| 01:28.57 | *** join/#bzflag newbie (~newbie@2001:618:400:0:0:0:d887:4485) |
| 01:28.59 | Big_Barrel | what? |
| 01:29.04 | Big_Barrel | the name calling?? |
| 01:29.10 | Big_Barrel | it was a joke |
| 01:29.11 | orchid | yeah |
| 01:29.17 | Big_Barrel | you just jumped in at the wrong time |
| 01:29.19 | Big_Barrel | nsrry |
| 01:29.25 | Big_Barrel | you know how KR and i are |
| 01:29.33 | Big_Barrel | and killer c |
| 01:29.34 | newbie | :) |
| 01:29.40 | orchid | you didnt know it was me |
| 01:29.41 | sn0w_d0ggy | hehehe |
| 01:29.48 | Big_Barrel | nope |
| 01:30.05 | Big_Barrel | though who ever it was could take a joke |
| 01:30.14 | orchid | but you called me a sl** and a wh*** anyway, as a joke? |
| 01:30.16 | Big_Barrel | but like i said you jumped in at the wrong time |
| 01:30.21 | sn0w_d0ggy | hehehe |
| 01:30.21 | Big_Barrel | yes |
| 01:30.26 | Big_Barrel | it was a joke |
| 01:30.31 | Big_Barrel | ask killer c and KR |
| 01:30.33 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 01:30.35 | Big_Barrel | i am telling you |
| 01:30.42 | orchid | k |
| 01:30.55 | orchid | fair enough |
| 01:31.15 | Big_Barrel | srry bout that |
| 01:31.23 | Big_Barrel | i really did not know you were a girl |
| 01:31.46 | Big_Barrel | that is why you should stick to 1 callsign :) |
| 01:31.47 | *** join/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 01:31.50 | orchid | many girls play bz, so you never know who your opponent might be |
| 01:32.28 | Big_Barrel | yeah, but supergrass sounded boyish to me |
| 01:32.31 | Big_Barrel | srry again |
| 01:32.37 | Big_Barrel | ask KR he will tell you |
| 01:32.42 | orchid | k |
| 01:32.59 | KR | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:33.05 | Big_Barrel | when? |
| 01:33.05 | mikep | ok |
| 01:33.08 | mikep | grr |
| 01:33.11 | KR | because of what we had just been doing |
| 01:33.17 | mikep | grr |
| 01:33.19 | Big_Barrel | kr....tell bzg about our inside jokes |
| 01:33.21 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 01:33.28 | Big_Barrel | sorta a KR and BB thing |
| 01:33.36 | HEINOLA | . |
| 01:33.37 | Big_Barrel | sometimes others want i |
| 01:33.40 | mikep | . |
| 01:33.42 | mikep | ahh |
| 01:34.00 | Big_Barrel | lmao |
| 01:34.05 | Merry_ | me comp froze |
| 01:34.12 | Merry_ | hehehe |
| 01:34.12 | orchid | hi Merry |
| 01:34.16 | Merry_ | hi orchid |
| 01:34.24 | Merry_ | (aka bzg) |
| 01:34.27 | Big_Barrel | like i was saying.....ehem "me mammers is a fat beast!! |
| 01:34.35 | Merry_ | lmao! |
| 01:34.48 | Merry_ | bad bb |
| 01:34.50 | Merry_ | ;) |
| 01:34.53 | Big_Barrel | ;) |
| 01:36.02 | KR | bb's mom calls me "sugar love" |
| 01:36.05 | KR | lol |
| 01:36.20 | Big_Barrel | KR must like em big! |
| 01:36.30 | Big_Barrel | KR= fat beast lover |
| 01:37.01 | KR | bbiab |
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| 01:37.08 | Big_Barrel | bbiab? |
| 01:37.13 | Big_Barrel | whats taht mean? |
| 01:37.14 | Merry_ | hmmm |
| 01:37.20 | Merry_ | how'd I sign off? |
| 01:37.25 | Merry_ | oh ya |
| 01:37.27 | Big_Barrel | big barrel is a beast?? bbiab??? |
| 01:37.32 | Big_Barrel | i know :) |
| 01:37.35 | Merry_ | bb: lmao |
| 01:37.38 | Big_Barrel | but not a fat beast :) |
| 01:37.42 | Big_Barrel | just a beast :) |
| 01:37.52 | Big_Barrel | a tank beast :) |
| 01:37.56 | Merry_ | u make me crack up |
| 01:37.57 | Merry_ | ;) |
| 01:38.03 | Merry_ | well, gonna switch comps... |
| 01:38.11 | HEINOLA | anyone got a good flag setting for ffa map |
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| 01:38.43 | sn0w_d0ggy | There, umz |
| 01:38.51 | orchid | HEINOLA: one shot, no superflags |
| 01:39.16 | HEINOLA | so a one shot or 2 stonehenge :) |
| 01:39.37 | sn0w_d0ggy | grr |
| 01:42.07 | *** part/#bzflag newbie (~newbie@2001:618:400:0:0:0:d887:4485) |
| 01:42.13 | creeperz | how bout 50 shot patch and all good flags? |
| 01:42.56 | captain_proton | ....... |
| 01:43.13 | Merry_ | heh |
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| 01:59.58 | Merry_ | hi pat |
| 02:00.04 | Patlabor2221 | hallo |
| 02:00.11 | Patlabor2221 | how's it going? |
| 02:00.37 | Merry_ | good.. |
| 02:00.46 | Patlabor2221 | coo |
| 02:00.52 | Merry_ | well...gonna go to ducati wit' orchid...se ya pat! |
| 02:00.55 | Merry_ | oh and you? |
| 02:01.20 | Merry_ | well, gonna go |
| 02:01.22 | Patlabor2221 | I'm fine thans :) |
| 02:01.24 | Merry_ | see ya |
| 02:01.24 | Patlabor2221 | have fun |
| 02:01.25 | Merry_ | good |
| 02:01.27 | Merry_ | thanks |
| 02:01.28 | Merry_ | :D |
| 02:01.32 | orchid | cu |
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| 02:05.16 | tapo | hi -- deep night in germany... |
| 02:11.45 | *** part/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
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| 02:16.28 | HEINOLA | woohoo got ti working lol |
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| 02:32.21 | Merry_ | bye |
| 02:36.08 | HEINOLA | someone test ot see if my server works |
| 02:37.35 | HEINOLA | 68.3.98.39:5155 |
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| 02:42.46 | learner | HEINOLA: can't connect |
| 02:42.51 | learner | with 1.7 or 1.9 |
| 02:46.35 | HEINOLA | BZFS107e |
| 02:48.23 | JBDiGriz | I get an immediate error connecting to server. Do you see anything in the logs? |
| 02:48.42 | HEINOLA | nope |
| 02:49.44 | HEINOLA | i might haVE messed up my listen on addy |
| 02:49.59 | JBDiGriz | Connection refused on that port |
| 02:50.10 | HEINOLA | im 0.0.0.0:5155 |
| 02:50.30 | HEINOLA | ill try diff port |
| 02:51.28 | HEINOLA | is the port command -p and -pr for reconect port ? |
| 02:53.35 | HEINOLA | seen someone |
| 02:53.47 | HEINOLA | 24.1.99 ****** |
| 02:55.36 | HEINOLA | ok im on the in game server list 56th =FFA= |
| 02:55.42 | HEINOLA | working now? |
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| 03:12.31 | heinola__ | sry there im back |
| 03:13.40 | heinola__ | i froze up |
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| 03:20.06 | heinola__ | gn all |
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| 05:06.42 | Quol | anyone listening? |
| 05:06.49 | orange | hey quol |
| 05:07.13 | Quol | hey orange - how are ya |
| 05:07.28 | orange | good, how are you? |
| 05:07.32 | Quol | lol JB - anything new since this afternoon? |
| 05:07.57 | Quol | not bad - just finished some work, and thought I would check in before going to bed |
| 05:08.04 | JBDiGriz | no, a bunch of people hanging out on your server, mostly just chatting while a 1 v 1 was going on. |
| 05:08.32 | Quol | JB - I saw - 236K for a couple of hours, nothing much I guess.. |
| 05:10.10 | orange | 236k? |
| 05:10.10 | JBDiGriz | I was asking chestal about server congestion. ducati has been rather flakey many recent evenings (PST) |
| 05:10.27 | Quol | orange - 236Kbps |
| 05:10.34 | orange | that much traffic, wow? |
| 05:11.04 | Quol | well - 236Kpbs is probably 2 players and a couple of observers.. |
| 05:11.23 | Quol | JB - do observers take as much bandwidth as players? |
| 05:11.26 | orange | I had no idea it was that high |
| 05:11.42 | Quol | I guess so as the co-ordinates are still getting transfered to them? |
| 05:12.19 | Quol | orange - when I have a good crowd - 8 players and 3 observers - it's a good 650 - 750 Kbps |
| 05:12.41 | orange | ok, so it doesn't scale linearly |
| 05:13.02 | orange | that # I can handle... a sustained level of over 2M would eventually cost me money :-) |
| 05:13.05 | JBDiGriz | According to pat, observers only receive updates, so they shouldn't take as much bandwidth as players. |
| 05:13.55 | Quol | but by them receiving updates - from the server's perspective it is the same amount of upload (players download) no?? |
| 05:14.39 | Quol | the only difference is that a player will also "upload" his info, but that is minimal... |
| 05:14.52 | JBDiGriz | Same amount as updating regular players, but there isn't the traffic from the client to the server, which is about as much. |
| 05:15.14 | JBDiGriz | The server mostly acts as a reflector, passing the updates from the clients to the other clients. |
| 05:15.45 | JBDiGriz | It doesn't maintain much state about the individual players. |
| 05:16.11 | Quol | hmm - but my server has very little "incoming" traffic - and LOTS of outgoing traffic |
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| 05:16.40 | orange | 8 players = 8 incoming streams and 64 outgoing streams, right? |
| 05:16.41 | JBDiGriz | Should be 1 packet in to multiple packets out. |
| 05:17.21 | JBDiGriz | sort of, although streams often connote connections. |
| 05:17.32 | Quol | for instance - the other day when there were 8 players, and a bunch of observers (3 or 4 of them I guess), incoming was around 60 - 100K, while outgoing was 600-660K |
| 05:18.08 | Quol | if you want I can give you the graph |
| 05:18.12 | butter | is public server list updated in real time? |
| 05:18.19 | butter | old one |
| 05:18.29 | Quol | samples are taken every 30 seconds via SNMP and stored in mySQL DB and plotted |
| 05:18.33 | orange | ever see anything above 1M quol? |
| 05:18.39 | JBDiGriz | an update from 1 player would have gone to 10 or 11 other clients, so 8 players in would be about 60k to 600 or 660k out, that actually works out better than i thought it would. |
| 05:19.29 | orange | if not, I'm fine on bandwidth... I ask because deathbarrel inquired about having the IST finals on my server |
| 05:19.35 | Quol | orange - when I have people on Q2 and 6 people playing a tournament - yes |
| 05:20.03 | orange | which would be cool, but not if it's gonna bump my bandwidth costs up (hundreds of $$'s as we move up) |
| 05:20.11 | Quol | if you only have the IST game - you should be fine |
| 05:20.55 | orange | and as I was mentioning to jb, I'd want something other than the current name for my server... I was thinking about proxs.bzflag.org .. might as well get some free publicity for the team :-) |
| 05:21.30 | Quol | i am sure Mr Riker can hook you up if you send him an e-mail - what type of connection is it? |
| 05:22.02 | orange | 10M connection to InterNAP |
| 05:22.20 | orange | though I'm not intending to make it a public server (not in the list) |
| 05:22.31 | Quol | that's alright - I guess they bill you by bandwidth? or speed? |
| 05:22.53 | orange | rate... 30s intervals with the top 5% thrown out |
| 05:23.05 | orange | but we're flat-rate up to 3M |
| 05:23.12 | JBDiGriz | You east coast guys keep strange hours. |
| 05:23.25 | orange | the business itself obviously uses some bandwidth :-) |
| 05:23.48 | Quol | lol JB - I should already be in bed, but had to work on a west-coaster's VPN - after hours of course hence why I am up :) |
| 05:24.15 | Quol | orange - I have 6 internet links like that at my disposal :) |
| 05:24.20 | JBDiGriz | Clearly you need a west coast office :) |
| 05:24.21 | Quol | orange - what do you do? |
| 05:24.57 | orange | run a tech company... mostly intranet/extranet type stuff for people in the commercial construction industry |
| 05:25.08 | Quol | sysadmin? |
| 05:25.27 | orange | what's cool about the internap connections is that one hop away from my router is about 15 different backbone providers direct connections |
| 05:25.38 | orange | I do some sysadmin, but it's my company :-) |
| 05:25.45 | orange | which is why I can do this :-) |
| 05:25.51 | Quol | ahh - that's cool... |
| 05:26.11 | JBDiGriz | All of us do some sysadmin, it's part of the geek way. |
| 05:26.22 | Quol | I am the director of mine, and the server's I have up I have full permissions to do that - plenty of bandwidth to spare anyways, and we pay a flat rate |
| 05:26.44 | orange | cool deal |
| 05:26.51 | Quol | not bad.. |
| 05:27.04 | Quol | I am getting a new link in new york in a couple of months |
| 05:27.20 | Quol | 1Gbps pipe through 20 ISP's straight to the NET |
| 05:27.40 | orange | that'll do |
| 05:27.44 | Quol | that's for prod stuff though - no servers on that one :) |
| 05:28.00 | Quol | at least - none of them will be "mine" - only the companies :) |
| 05:28.36 | butter | public server list still has dead server monkey.solarmass.org |
| 05:28.45 | butter | but doesn't list new server at v2.solarmass.org |
| 05:28.56 | butter | even though debug message says it is added |
| 05:29.34 | Quol | anyone come up with a redundant list server idea yet? |
| 05:30.12 | butter | :\ |
| 05:30.37 | JBDiGriz | There's been some discussion about redundant list servers, but there has to be a synchronization technique for all of them. |
| 05:32.24 | Quol | you could do something along the lines of a NDS/Actice Directory Idea where they all hold the "catalog" of each other as they are registered with each other and that way they can send incremental updates to each other or something along those lines? |
| 05:34.10 | Quol | wasn't Banyan the original creator of Directory Services? I seem to remember that Novell stole it from them, and then MS ripped of Novell :) - something like that anyways... |
| 05:35.25 | JBDiGriz | There are several ways of doing it, but nobody has taken the lead so far. Everyone is pushing to get the next release out first, and then look at new functionality. |
| 05:36.03 | Quol | that's good - any dates yet? |
| 05:36.15 | orange | the dreaded question :-) |
| 05:36.28 | JBDiGriz | orange: I just got your note about the perl script, you might want to talk to Nidhoggr who is here, but not really here. He's the person I received it all from. |
| 05:37.12 | orange | I won't remember that after I'm done testing... I'll get back with you when I'm happy with it |
| 05:37.18 | JBDiGriz | Quol: I'll leave that question unanswered for the powers that be. :) |
| 05:37.59 | Quol | heh - thought that would be the answer - worth asking anyways though :) |
| 05:38.53 | orange | whoa, the new server has lots more files... guess they split it up |
| 05:39.45 | JBDiGriz | learner has been making a serious effort to clean it up and make it easier to maintain. |
| 05:40.10 | orange | cool deal |
| 05:40.13 | orange | learner is server lead? |
| 05:41.06 | JBDiGriz | project management, what an interesting concept :) |
| 05:41.25 | orange | :-) |
| 05:41.36 | purple_cow | .....project management? |
| 05:42.10 | Patlabor2221 | There are no leads, there are 3 people who sometimes do any dev, 5 people who putter, and about 35 people who complain |
| 05:42.51 | orange | just 35? |
| 05:42.56 | JBDiGriz | Hey what about us people who hold the pompoms and yell "go team" :) |
| 05:43.32 | Patlabor2221 | they "SHOULD" be making a certan other project work on non windows OSs :) |
| 05:43.36 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:44.42 | Patlabor2221 | Xcode does look good |
| 05:45.03 | Patlabor2221 | if you want to make OSX_XCODE dirs for all the stuff be my guest |
| 05:45.44 | purple_cow | xcode? |
| 05:45.46 | JBDiGriz | It's interesting, but I haven't been able to make it compile for 10.2 yet. That isn't an issue for a new project which doesn't have to work on 10.2 yet, but it is for an older project. |
| 05:45.53 | Patlabor2221 | Apple's new IDE |
| 05:46.04 | purple_cow | hm |
| 05:46.17 | purple_cow | we ordered the first part in a batch of new hardware at work :) |
| 05:46.22 | purple_cow | maxed out new ibook |
| 05:46.34 | purple_cow | then in a month or so, we get the maxed out g5 and 8 shuttles :) |
| 05:46.38 | orange | ah, the good days of tech are back |
| 05:46.45 | orange | unbridled spending on cool toys :-) |
| 05:46.52 | JBDiGriz | The new maxed out g5 or yesterday's maxed out g5? |
| 05:46.55 | Quol | well guys - bedtime for me... |
| 05:46.59 | Quol | nice chatting |
| 05:47.01 | orange | later quol |
| 05:47.06 | JBDiGriz | g'nite quol, cya. |
| 05:47.08 | purple_cow | JBDiGriz: whatever is maxed out when we order ;) |
| 05:47.52 | JBDiGriz | They just announced a speed bump in the g5's along with the 20" imac. |
| 05:47.53 | purple_cow | hmm, mebbe |
| 05:49.07 | purple_cow | i thought they announced 1.8G's, while the old was 2.0G's |
| 05:49.38 | JBDiGriz | They announced 2GHz duals |
| 05:55.31 | purple_cow | putter putter putter |
| 05:55.34 | purple_cow | woobdeedoo |
| 05:56.12 | orange | say, anybody know if roger will be the brains behind the -solo robots in 1.9? |
| 05:56.17 | orange | I'm guessing no |
| 05:56.28 | Patlabor2221 | no |
| 05:56.31 | orange | I'm guessing you hate questions like that :-) |
| 05:56.32 | Patlabor2221 | it's a difrent thing |
| 05:56.50 | orange | my 6yo son likes to play, but I can't turn him loose on the public servers. |
| 05:56.59 | Patlabor2221 | there are no answers, as noone has a real plan |
| 05:57.00 | orange | and -solo robots are a bit too easy for him |
| 05:57.11 | Patlabor2221 | 1.9 is basicly a feature complete, its bug fixes now |
| 05:57.26 | Patlabor2221 | it was feature complete months ago, but Tim wanted to shove in a new list server |
| 05:58.21 | orange | it looks awesome from what I've played with it |
| 05:58.38 | Patlabor2221 | well it "looks" the same :) |
| 05:58.46 | Patlabor2221 | if you don't count all the GL errors |
| 05:58.47 | orange | heh, not quite what I meant |
| 05:59.09 | orange | saaaay... anybody ever play with the old 'flight' program from the SGI's? That was an awesome 'game' |
| 06:02.22 | orange | still one of the coolest flight simulators I've ever played |
| 06:02.38 | orange | the multiplayer dogfight helped :-) |
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| 06:51.29 | TimRiker | ~reload |
| 06:51.29 | | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (n required) |
| 06:51.53 | TimRiker | ~die |
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| 10:51.21 | Pimpinella | hi |
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| 13:30.19 | Michaelh | bleh |
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| 15:48.27 | Nidhoggr | *yawn* |
| 15:48.32 | Nidhoggr | need more coffee. |
| 15:49.28 | JBdiGriz | mmmm coffee |
| 15:54.18 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:54.55 | Nidhoggr | someone at our office bought a nice fancy coffee machine with all sorts of options, and it's been sitting unused for months. |
| 15:55.12 | Nidhoggr | so I found the manual, and started finding resources to make it work. |
| 15:55.29 | Nidhoggr | found the website, parts manuals, etc., online. |
| 15:55.40 | Nidhoggr | now I gotta hire someone to clean it. :) |
| 15:55.56 | Chestal | is it networked? |
| 15:56.03 | Nidhoggr | not yet :) |
| 15:56.19 | Nidhoggr | we are all net geeks, so I am sure it won't take long to figure out a way to network it. |
| 15:57.11 | Nidhoggr | we are always buying sensors and serial switches for other projects. |
| 15:57.34 | Nidhoggr | have it open a trouble ticket when the coffee gets low. :) |
| 15:57.35 | KR | mmm espresso |
| 15:57.55 | Chestal | I'm a tea person anyway |
| 15:58.18 | Nidhoggr | the night shift guy always turns the AC up to 77. I am roasting. |
| 15:58.28 | Nidhoggr | chestal... this one will do loose tea as well. |
| 15:58.47 | Chestal | then ship it here please |
| 15:58.50 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:00.15 | Nidhoggr | I've been making my own coffee at home, and bringing it to work in a caraffe. the person who makes coffee here is not skilled in the way of the bean. |
| 16:12.37 | JBdiGriz | Anonymous access to sf has been resolved. |
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| 16:23.08 | Michaelh | . |
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| 16:29.51 | Michaelh | . |
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| 16:34.32 | larsl | Wow, anonymous CVS on SourceForge is actually fast! =) |
| 16:34.40 | larsl | The web server is not, though. |
| 16:35.03 | Michaelh | tragic.. |
| 16:35.15 | Michaelh | perhaps they should do porn popups |
| 16:35.27 | Michaelh | increase the revenue stream |
| 16:36.12 | Michaelh | *seriously* |
| 16:36.19 | Michaelh | no just kidding |
| 16:37.47 | Michaelh | ibot I am an rock |
| 16:37.48 | | Michaelh: no idea |
| 16:39.25 | Michaelh | So lars, you're a student, right? |
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| 16:41.00 | larsl | Michaelh: Yes. |
| 16:41.54 | Michaelh | I'm getting used to this french keyboard finally |
| 16:43.22 | Michaelh | still don't have a computer that can run bzflag -- stuck on an old laptop |
| 16:53.41 | Michaelh | I guess I have a neomagic MagicMedia256ZX for a video sub system |
| 16:55.06 | *** part/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 16:55.12 | Michaelh | although of course there's always the psychadelic experience of running bzflag in non GL mode |
| 16:56.43 | Michaelh | is it that mode actually runnable on some computers? |
| 16:59.55 | Patlabor221 | how fast is the CPU? |
| 17:00.06 | Michaelh | 500 mhz |
| 17:00.21 | Michaelh | PIII I think |
| 17:00.30 | Patlabor221 | with everything off, in 640x480 it may run ok |
| 17:00.46 | Patlabor221 | windows or *nix? |
| 17:01.01 | Michaelh | x86 family 6 model 8 ? |
| 17:01.09 | Michaelh | windows 2000 |
| 17:01.24 | Patlabor221 | you could try to find the SGI software open GL dll, that would help |
| 17:01.30 | Patlabor221 | how much ram? |
| 17:01.37 | Michaelh | 300 + I think |
| 17:01.43 | Patlabor221 | yah may work |
| 17:01.55 | Patlabor221 | easy enough to try :) |
| 17:02.11 | Michaelh | I also have pay out the nose internet dial up connection too |
| 17:02.35 | Michaelh | Sincethey bill for each and every call in France -- like in the UK I think |
| 17:03.57 | Patlabor221 | and why did you go there? |
| 17:04.40 | Michaelh | Job :) |
| 17:04.59 | Michaelh | It's just for a month more or so of training |
| 17:05.20 | Michaelh | Which just me hacking away on some test cases more or less |
| 17:05.51 | Michaelh | fiddling with some tutorials -- trying to learn some things |
| 17:09.06 | Michaelh | the only down side about it is that they use their own proprietary language -- no java, no real meaty kinds of programming kinds of things |
| 17:10.21 | Michaelh | So when it comes to years of experience in Java C++ I'll still be at nill if I stay here for years |
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| 17:13.05 | Patlabor221 | day off work? |
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| 17:13.14 | Michaelh | End of day at work |
| 17:13.22 | Patlabor221 | not for her |
| 17:13.38 | Michaelh | orchid |
| 17:13.42 | Michaelh | ? |
| 17:13.48 | Patlabor221 | bingo |
| 17:13.48 | orchid | hi... |
| 17:14.04 | orchid | no, im on lunch |
| 17:14.08 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 17:14.12 | Patlabor221 | how is the day going? |
| 17:14.16 | Michaelh | someone not wasting company network resources? shocking |
| 17:14.21 | Patlabor221 | ahh good |
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| 17:14.59 | Michaelh | where is that software opengl driver.? |
| 17:15.07 | Patlabor221 | thats the kicker |
| 17:15.13 | Patlabor221 | SGI killed it |
| 17:15.24 | Patlabor221 | so you'd have to find somone who has it for download |
| 17:15.32 | Patlabor221 | it's just a openGL32.dll |
| 17:16.03 | Patlabor221 | !google SGI software open GL windows |
| 17:16.05 | Guu | Patlabor221: Search took 0.245913 seconds: OpenGL - High Performance 2D/3D Graphics: <http://www.opengl.org/>; GLUT Specification: <http://www.opengl.org/developers/documentation/glut/>; SGI - Products: Software : Open Inventor: FAQ: <http://www.sgi.com/software/inventor/faq.html>; SGI - Press Releases: Experimental Study Uses Computer Program ...: (2 more messages) |
| 17:16.21 | Patlabor221 | !more |
| 17:16.21 | Guu | Patlabor221: <http://www.sgi.com/newsroom/press_releases/2003/october/skills.html>; HBM 2000 Member-initiated Symposium: <http://ric.uthscsa.edu/hbm2000/hbm_technicaldemos.htm>; Introduction to Open GL Programming: <http://www.ewh.ieee.org/r6/ocs/downloads/intro_to_open_GL_part1.ppt>; Windows 98/ME: <http://www.pcigeomatics.com/product_ind/hardware_matrixg9.pdf>; SGI - (1 more message) |
| 17:16.29 | Patlabor221 | !more |
| 17:16.29 | Guu | Patlabor221: Developer Central Open Source | OpenGLĀ® Sample ...: <http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/sdk.html>; Hardware Notes - Silicon Graphics Incorporated: <http://www.ptc.com/partners/hardware/2000i2/sgi.htm>; :: Boeing S&IS WashOps Software Products ::: <http://www.autometric.com/products/index.cfm?content=omni> |
| 17:16.38 | Michaelh | already been there |
| 17:16.40 | Patlabor221 | the thing may not even exist anymore |
| 17:20.37 | Michaelh | well I'm off for the day, talk to you guys later |
| 17:20.53 | Michaelh | perhaps I'll get a better puter in the future |
| 17:21.24 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || forums http://bzbb.bzflag.org || beta builds http://bzflag.dragon.org/builds || http://students.cs.byu.edu/~cs470ta/labs || ban exceptions /mode #BZFlag +e nick!*user@*.dip.t-dialin.net || brand-new list server for 1.9 is on http://db.bzflag.org/db/ || anonymous CVS works again |
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| 18:05.12 | brlcad | it's christmas time! |
| 18:05.38 | captain_proton | heh |
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| 18:21.14 | Bagheera | !weather bowie, md |
| 18:21.17 | Guu | Bagheera: The current temperature in Bowie, Maryland is 66°F. Conditions are Light Rain. |
| 18:21.48 | Bagheera | !weather waldorf, md |
| 18:21.50 | Guu | Bagheera: The current temperature in Waldorf, Maryland is 70°F. Conditions are Showers. |
| 18:22.18 | Bagheera | !weather potomac, md |
| 18:22.20 | Guu | Bagheera: The current temperature in Potomac, Maryland is 66°F. Conditions are Overcast. |
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| 18:39.51 | Bagheera | interesting little project http://rekonstruction.com/ |
| 18:45.21 | Bagheera | a million users....hmmm |
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| 19:17.52 | Legolas | ~d |
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| 19:40.38 | Legolas | david |
| 19:40.59 | Legolas | ~d |
| 19:42.12 | Legolas | ~seen dabomb |
| 19:42.15 | | dabomb <~dalskdjal@215-bem-10.acn.waw.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 16d 57m 2s ago, saying: 'okies'. |
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| 19:49.07 | Legolas | ~d |
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| 21:23.29 | david_v | hey Chiko :) |
| 21:23.37 | Chikorita | hi davy |
| 21:24.14 | Chikorita | ElectricElf: i checked my client , and ther r no bugz |
| 21:24.21 | Chikorita | FYI |
| 21:25.03 | Chikorita | sum1 else checked it an he said it was ok too |
| 21:25.37 | Chikorita | anywayz |
| 21:25.46 | Chikorita | davy? |
| 21:25.59 | Chikorita | wanna botsnack?>i have extra |
| 21:26.04 | Chikorita | ibot: botsnack |
| 21:26.04 | | Chikorita: :) |
| 21:26.07 | Chikorita | :) |
| 21:28.47 | creeperz | !weather 57350 |
| 21:28.49 | Guu | creeperz: The current temperature in Huron, South Dakota is 66°F. Conditions are Clear. |
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| 22:11.36 | sn0w_d0ggy | Hey |
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| 22:40.04 | creeperz | are there any free c/c++ project building tools for linux? |
| 22:40.18 | creeperz | similar to m$ visual c++ |
| 22:40.54 | larsl | Anjuta, KDevelop. |
| 22:41.13 | larsl | Although I've never used MSVC++, so I don't know how similar they are. |
| 22:42.29 | creeperz | im new to linux |
| 22:42.41 | creeperz | im pretty new to computers too |
| 22:42.58 | creeperz | imma go get a book from the library or something on c++ on linux |
| 22:43.00 | creeperz | or just c |
| 22:44.13 | creeperz | ~google anjuta |
| 22:44.45 | creeperz | hmm |
| 22:44.50 | larsl | The first one. |
| 22:44.54 | creeperz | KDevelop looks good |
| 22:44.57 | creeperz | see yu |
| 22:44.59 | creeperz | thanks |
| 22:45.07 | larsl | KDevelop is probably more mature, Anjuta is newer. |
| 22:49.02 | larsl | Any admins here for 80.190.243.206? Spoogebob is there. |
| 22:58.55 | creeperz | there should be a local client thing that asks if an enemy tank is moving too fast, too high, ect. |
| 22:59.30 | larsl | I think it makes more sense to have things like that in the server. |
| 22:59.39 | creeperz | yea |
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| 22:59.47 | creeperz | server would be good too ;-) |
| 23:00.03 | Death_Barrel | howdy gang! |
| 23:00.04 | larsl | And we already have that. =) |
| 23:01.02 | Death_Barrel | Noodleman? do you like macroni and cheese? |
| 23:03.31 | creeperz | i like mac and cheese |
| 23:04.53 | Death_Barrel | emmmm |
| 23:04.57 | Death_Barrel | hehe |
| 23:05.08 | Death_Barrel | The Moles are going to go inactive any day now :( |
| 23:05.16 | Death_Barrel | again :( |
| 23:05.34 | Death_Barrel | there is a way to stop that though :) |
| 23:05.41 | Death_Barrel | Matches!!! |
| 23:05.57 | Death_Barrel | cu later guys :) |
| 23:06.11 | Death_Barrel | must....finish.....work.....*sigh* |
| 23:08.03 | Noodleman | m00mba |
| 23:08.45 | Noodleman | i like mac and cheese, but real pasta with real cheese is much better :-) |
| 23:19.36 | TimRiker | Invalid library (maybe not a PHP library) 'sqlite.so' in Unknown on line 0 |
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