| 00:00.06 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): documented the removal of -r and -mo, and the embellishment of -mp (i think) |
| 00:00.09 | learner | want to test? |
| 00:00.13 | learner | on bunny server? |
| 00:00.28 | Tupone | OK! See Bugs 810962, seems the laser issue |
| 00:00.29 | JBDiGriz | I want to see you test on xmission :P |
| 00:00.46 | Tupone | new client? |
| 00:17.46 | Tupone | learner. I should go to sleep. Fill free to remove/add BUGS as you like. |
| 00:18.31 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (TODO): closer to release, and someone already put version funcs into version.h |
| 00:19.40 | Tupone | i saw a new bug, if you get a flag when you are still above the ground, the flag is rejected |
| 00:20.09 | Tupone | good nite |
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| 00:25.12 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:25.20 | captain_proton | learner: i like your test,test change :) |
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| 00:26.01 | learner | captain_proton:) |
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| 01:28.03 | Pimpinella | what about all these bans here? |
| 01:28.28 | Pimpinella | and why does chanserv shit down? |
| 01:28.28 | Patlabor221 | it's a split, each time the chan server comes back it redoes the existing bans |
| 01:28.31 | Pimpinella | sut |
| 01:28.36 | Pimpinella | shut |
| 01:28.38 | Patlabor221 | cus it's having issues |
| 01:29.07 | Patlabor221 | there are some assholes who just come here to ruin things, so they are on the ban list |
| 01:29.16 | Pimpinella | nah |
| 01:30.16 | Pimpinella | did anyone get the current stuff from the sourceforge cvs lately? |
| 01:30.33 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure some have? why? |
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| 01:31.06 | Pimpinella | i dont get anomymous aces |
| 01:31.08 | orchid | hi jolly |
| 01:31.16 | Patlabor221 | anon is probably jacked |
| 01:31.25 | Patlabor221 | you can get a snap |
| 01:31.25 | jolly | hey orchid :) |
| 01:31.30 | Patlabor221 | !sfsnap |
| 01:31.37 | Pimpinella | cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected access to /cvsroot/bzflag for user anonymous |
| 01:31.39 | Patlabor221 | ~sfsnap |
| 01:31.45 | | sfsnap is, like, http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/bzflag/ |
| 01:31.56 | Patlabor221 | source forge has had flakey anon access for months now |
| 01:32.06 | Patlabor221 | go there and get the latest tarball |
| 01:32.15 | Patlabor221 | they are automaticly made with each change |
| 01:32.46 | Pimpinella | the 1.7g3 stuff also? |
| 01:33.00 | Pimpinella | there is only g2 |
| 01:33.09 | Patlabor221 | no, 1.9.x |
| 01:33.21 | Patlabor221 | there is no real work beeing done on 1.7.x |
| 01:33.24 | Patlabor221 | it's done with |
| 01:33.37 | Patlabor221 | there is no real 1.7.g3 release |
| 01:33.46 | Patlabor221 | 1.10 will be the next version |
| 01:34.12 | Pimpinella | but where do i get the latest 1.7 changes? |
| 01:34.37 | scanline | latest and 1.7 don't go together :P |
| 01:34.41 | Patlabor221 | past 1.7g2 isnt' much, just some bug fixes |
| 01:34.46 | Patlabor221 | there are no new features |
| 01:34.49 | Patlabor221 | and they are only in CVS |
| 01:34.52 | Patlabor221 | just keep trying |
| 01:34.57 | Pimpinella | k |
| 01:34.58 | Patlabor221 | it will eventualy let you in. |
| 01:35.19 | Pimpinella | nmy english isnt too good indeed |
| 01:35.22 | Pimpinella | :( |
| 01:37.38 | Pimpinella | scanline: i want to run bzfs and there r some nice features added after the g2 release |
| 01:38.28 | Patlabor221 | features? |
| 01:38.30 | Patlabor221 | what features? |
| 01:38.53 | Pimpinella | no second port needet... |
| 01:39.01 | Patlabor221 | that's in 1.9 |
| 01:39.22 | Pimpinella | read the 1.7 changlog |
| 01:39.30 | Patlabor221 | somone moved that back |
| 01:39.33 | Patlabor221 | how wierd |
| 01:39.49 | Patlabor221 | I would think that would make it incompatable |
| 01:40.00 | Pimpinella | dunno |
| 01:53.15 | bryjen | hmm. I'm getting 'bad argument "-mo"' when trying to start bzfs 1.9.10 |
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| 02:20.43 | bryjen | erg. TimRiker folded -mo into -mp but didn't update the -help stuff |
| 02:21.05 | bryjen | ~lart TimRiker |
| 02:21.22 | bryjen | pixels, I hope. |
| 02:21.27 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:27.52 | orchid | anyone know how to clear the paste buffer in xwindows? |
| 02:29.06 | bryjen | not I |
| 02:30.16 | bryjen | ugh. there's no more -r either. (also still in -help) |
| 02:31.56 | orchid | rico? |
| 02:32.40 | bryjen | allow rogues |
| 02:32.44 | bryjen | +r = rico |
| 02:33.12 | orchid | oh |
| 02:35.31 | bryjen | i can see how consolidating the options for rogue (-r) and observers (-mo #) into the maximum players (-mp #,#,#...) option makes sense, but it breaks scripts/conf files :( |
| 02:46.52 | Pimpinella | hm, if i set -time and -timemanual everybody can do a /countdown, even if he dosnt have COUNTDOWN permission ? |
| 02:47.15 | Pimpinella | doesnt seem right |
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| 03:05.24 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/obstacle (PyramidBuilding.cxx): cast problems |
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| 03:22.19 | Pimpinella | cua |
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| 03:30.11 | HEINOLA | hello all |
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| 03:37.45 | HEINOLA | . |
| 03:38.17 | Patlabor2221 | .. |
| 03:39.35 | HEINOLA | ... |
| 03:39.41 | HEINOLA | ... --- ... |
| 03:40.12 | Patlabor2221 | I see, I didn't know you swung that way |
| 03:40.21 | HEINOLA | SOS |
| 03:40.55 | HEINOLA | having trouble getting my bzflag sh scripts to run |
| 03:40.57 | HEINOLA | lol |
| 03:41.16 | HEINOLA | bzfs unknown command |
| 03:41.33 | Patlabor2221 | what command? |
| 03:41.54 | HEINOLA | bzfs |
| 03:42.09 | Patlabor2221 | sounds like your system can't find the exe |
| 03:42.11 | Patlabor2221 | is it in the path? |
| 03:42.39 | HEINOLA | no |
| 03:43.20 | Patlabor2221 | then perhaps you should make it be so, or put the path to it in the scroipt |
| 03:43.29 | Patlabor2221 | otherwise how shall it find it :) |
| 03:43.34 | HEINOLA | usr/games/bzfs |
| 03:43.55 | Patlabor2221 | ether add that to the path, or put that path in the script |
| 03:44.17 | HEINOLA | the script lol |
| 03:44.55 | HEINOLA | ty |
| 03:44.59 | Patlabor2221 | sure |
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| 04:03.05 | fiberchunks_ | allo |
| 04:03.10 | Patlabor221 | sup G |
| 04:03.33 | fiberchunks_ | nuttin |
| 04:03.51 | Patlabor221 | how are the renovations going? |
| 04:05.14 | fiberchunks_ | good, most of the basement walls are done, some insulation is hung -- gotta do drywall soon (I hate ceilings) :) |
| 04:07.11 | Patlabor221 | yeah so do I |
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| 04:11.19 | HEINOLA | is there a good reference to setting up a bzflag server on linux? |
| 04:11.48 | HEINOLA | or at least proper server script building lol |
| 04:12.34 | fiberchunks_ | it's all a matter of ports and command line switches -- there's some info at the forums about it |
| 04:12.41 | Patlabor221 | it depends on your distro, there is no rael "standard" way |
| 04:12.45 | Patlabor221 | yeah just the commands |
| 04:12.50 | fiberchunks_ | but as far as an overall guide, don't think so |
| 04:13.48 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (CmdLineOptions.cxx): tim did not update the help messages. tsk tsk. |
| 04:18.45 | fiberchunks_ | whaz happenin on the left coast PL? |
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| 04:48.18 | Chikorita | ~d |
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| 04:48.29 | Chikorita | ~q |
| 04:48.37 | HEINOLA | ok im back |
| 04:49.01 | Chikorita | ~quols |
| 04:49.05 | Chikorita | ~quol |
| 04:49.42 | HEINOLA | dont think im making my bzfs scripts right |
| 04:52.40 | HEINOLA | i can run bzfs from term |
| 04:52.52 | HEINOLA | and do tag from term but i cant load a script |
| 04:53.02 | HEINOLA | im mesing up writing again lol |
| 04:53.17 | Chikorita | ibot: botsnack pudding pop |
| 04:53.17 | | Chikorita: aw, gee |
| 04:54.14 | Chikorita | bye irc |
| 04:54.22 | HEINOLA | these thing are suposed to be like mine ctf.sh for a script correct? |
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| 05:02.42 | HEINOLA | . |
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| 05:05.49 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (CmdLineOptions.cxx): the commas are optional too ;) |
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| 16:28.42 | Manu_1 | Hi! |
| 16:32.02 | Manu_1 | ... |
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| 16:38.39 | snyke | ? |
| 16:38.58 | Manu_1 | Hi! |
| 16:39.57 | Manu_1 | any user can read my messages? |
| 16:47.22 | snyke | Menu_1: no |
| 16:47.27 | snyke | what do you write? |
| 16:47.41 | Manu_1 | can you read my messages snyke? |
| 16:48.17 | Manu_1 | i'm testing my new x-chat |
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| 16:48.25 | snyke | I said -> NO <-, what do you type? |
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| 16:48.51 | Manu_1 | but you have read the last because you have answer me. |
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| 16:55.41 | snyke | Manu_1: you're so intelligent.. wow :) |
| 16:55.49 | snyke | stop that manu |
| 16:56.14 | Manu_1 | sorry... i'm new in this chat program.... :) |
| 16:56.20 | tapo | hi Manu. I jumped into death yesterday (callsign norfil). |
| 16:56.33 | Manu_1 | Hi again! |
| 16:57.14 | Manu_1 | what must stop snyke? |
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| 16:59.15 | tapo | Manu_1: why dcc? |
| 16:59.39 | Manu_1 | i don't know if you can read my message.... (newbie in chat) |
| 17:00.13 | tapo | Manu_1: /msg tapo .... is private message. All other is in the channel -- readable 4 everyone who can read. |
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| 17:03.09 | brlcad | nanoo manuu |
| 17:03.45 | Patlabor221 | sup G |
| 17:03.52 | brlcad | nuthin, yous? |
| 17:04.04 | Manu_1 | Hi brlcad! |
| 17:04.08 | Patlabor221 | we are trying to get the last of the invisibles |
| 17:04.16 | brlcad | ah.. cool |
| 17:04.27 | brlcad | oop. time for lunch! bbl |
| 17:04.34 | Chestal | I only just started with them |
| 17:04.50 | Patlabor221 | we just need #7 |
| 17:05.28 | Chestal | I don't have that |
| 17:05.41 | brlcad | hmm.. don't know #7 right off the bat |
| 17:05.49 | brlcad | but it rings bells.. |
| 17:05.56 | brlcad | maybe if it's still ungot after lunch |
| 17:05.58 | Patlabor221 | it does look very familiar |
| 17:05.58 | brlcad | cya |
| 17:06.02 | Patlabor221 | have fun |
| 17:06.11 | brlcad | try mel gibson movie.. |
| 17:06.38 | Patlabor221 | it's not forever young |
| 17:07.05 | tapo | Manu_1: talk HERE |
| 17:08.18 | Manu_1 | he he... . I play better than usint this chat program |
| 17:08.54 | tapo | Manu_1: there's an alternative way... |
| 17:09.26 | Manu_1 | what? |
| 17:13.01 | JBDiGriz | Patlabor221: It looked like Empire of the Sun to me, but that didn't work |
| 17:13.15 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 17:13.20 | Patlabor221 | yeah I recall that movie |
| 17:13.24 | Patlabor221 | it's a modern bike |
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| 17:13.27 | Patlabor221 | so it can't be that tho |
| 17:14.30 | Patlabor221 | and it kinda looks like the guns have been removed from the P-38 |
| 17:14.51 | JBDiGriz | I actually got 2,4,6,and 8 fairly quickly this week. It must be an easier week, or they are using older movies. |
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| 17:15.29 | Patlabor221 | some of them are older |
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| 17:37.24 | tapo | one more bmcclt download in the stats :-) |
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| 19:03.52 | Death_Barrel | hello hello :) |
| 19:04.08 | Tupone | hi hi |
| 19:04.20 | Death_Barrel | whats up dude? |
| 19:05.25 | Death_Barrel | i am testing this irc client from strayer.de :) |
| 19:05.32 | Death_Barrel | cu laterz |
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| 19:12.19 | TimRiker | Tupone: I tried the SQLite-php package but debian stable has an old automake and I can't get it to build. |
| 19:12.41 | Tupone | do you want I try to fix it? |
| 19:12.44 | TimRiker | stable includes two automakes, where 2.50 is the newest which is still not new enough. |
| 19:12.52 | TimRiker | yeah. tried and failed. |
| 19:12.59 | TimRiker | it was all screwed up. |
| 19:13.07 | TimRiker | ~dinfo automake |
| 19:16.16 | brlcad | if it is, tim, I can build the sqlite module here, and then you could install it |
| 19:16.40 | brlcad | installing it is merely a matter of putting the .so into an extensions dir, and adding a line to your php.info file |
| 19:17.12 | brlcad | want me to build it for a look n' try? |
| 19:18.18 | brlcad | erp, they've already built it even: http://www.hwaci.com/sw/sqlite/sqlite.so.gz |
| 19:19.17 | Tupone | that is sqlite, not php-module ? |
| 19:19.35 | brlcad | from what it looked like when I built it, there is no difference |
| 19:20.00 | brlcad | the php "modules" are simply things that are dlopen'ed at runtime |
| 19:20.41 | Tupone | you mean no layer in PHP ? |
| 19:28.59 | TimRiker | brlcad: sure. |
| 19:29.54 | TimRiker | huh? you mean my shared lib for sqlite would work in php if I copied it over to the plugin dir? |
| 19:30.41 | TimRiker | /usr/lib/libsqlite.so.0.2.0 |
| 19:31.35 | TimRiker | I found an old 0.0.5 version that compiled and installed fine, but the api is lame. |
| 19:32.27 | TimRiker | bagend:~# ldd sqlite.so |
| 19:32.27 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.27 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.16 | TimRiker | the 0.0.5 version I build links to my sqlite so in /usr/lib but the url one does not. might be static... |
| 19:34.37 | Chestal | Patlabor221: Figured out #7 yet? |
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| 19:52.25 | brlcad | Tim: is that ldd for the .so that I linked to? |
| 19:53.19 | brlcad | nvr mind.. just checked.. and I see that it is |
| 19:58.03 | brlcad | yes.. you should be able to just put it into the plugin dir |
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| 20:01.52 | squashy | is it OK to play bzflag, with lag ? |
| 20:02.34 | squashy | apart from getting kicked from some servers, it's still free even if playing with lag... right? |
| 20:04.04 | brlcad | why would your connection make it not free? |
| 20:04.21 | brlcad | you can pay me if you like, but not because your connection sucks |
| 20:04.36 | brlcad | :) |
| 20:04.43 | squashy | :) |
| 20:05.40 | brlcad | if your lag is > 300ms, though, you are likely to annoy the heck out of the other players |
| 20:05.46 | brlcad | even if the server allows it |
| 20:06.10 | brlcad | try to find a server that is closer to you, physically |
| 20:06.31 | squashy | ok |
| 20:09.35 | brlcad | TimRiker: what version of libc are you using? |
| 20:10.48 | brlcad | is 2.3.2 okay? |
| 20:15.55 | Tupone | TimRiker: I short laser to like 1.25 normal shot. I think it resolve an issue we raise yesterday on brlcad playground about laser slowing the server, and a BUG listed in sf. As in TODO is written THESE NEED TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT PROTOCOL BREAKAGE, can I release that or wait? |
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| 20:16.48 | brlcad | hi tupone |
| 20:16.55 | Tupone | hi |
| 20:17.10 | squashy | bzflag is too addicting, it my affect my studies etc. |
| 20:17.34 | Tupone | so, stop studying! |
| 20:17.34 | squashy | i installed and uninstalled like 5 or 6 times |
| 20:18.07 | brlcad | squashy: it sounds like you are wasting too much time installing and uninstalling, not playing |
| 20:18.41 | squashy | i've already played, but i'm using dial up connection - located in australia :| |
| 20:18.54 | Tupone | brlcad: what do you think about the laser issue? |
| 20:21.25 | brlcad | i'm not sure, tupone..if it is fixed and you are pretty sure that it won't cause any new bugs, then I'd say put it in |
| 20:21.31 | brlcad | if you're not sure, though, I'd just wait |
| 20:21.59 | Tupone | problem, for me, it's that it alter the way laser has been |
| 20:22.03 | Tupone | used |
| 20:22.37 | brlcad | OOOooh.. tupone.. you actually cap the length.. |
| 20:22.41 | brlcad | awe |
| 20:22.48 | Grumbler | gah |
| 20:22.51 | brlcad | :) |
| 20:23.03 | brlcad | gives me time to chat in irc |
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| 20:23.49 | brlcad | tupone: I'd hold off until after release then.. |
| 20:24.05 | Grumbler | so july it is then |
| 20:24.15 | Tupone | but that issue? how to solve it? |
| 20:24.27 | Tupone | can we limit to 5 instead of 1.25? |
| 20:24.35 | Tupone | or 10? |
| 20:24.44 | brlcad | sure, just something not infinite |
| 20:24.49 | brlcad | 100 :) |
| 20:25.07 | Tupone | I think no is about 1000 |
| 20:25.11 | Tupone | s/no/now |
| 20:25.13 | Grumbler | why not infinite? |
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| 20:25.25 | brlcad | it sends the server crunching, Grumbler |
| 20:25.31 | brlcad | too many segments |
| 20:25.39 | brlcad | clients get picky too |
| 20:25.51 | Tupone | if there is no obstacle |
| 20:26.36 | brlcad | Yea.. this is the "what happens when I shoot laser on an open map" problem |
| 20:26.54 | Grumbler | ahh, so it is overall length |
| 20:26.57 | bryjen | bad things(tm) |
| 20:27.59 | brlcad | with reflection/richochet turned on, of course |
| 20:28.09 | Grumbler | yeah, it will change the way people use laser.....it should IMHO, at least be able to shoot across the diagnol of any map |
| 20:29.00 | Grumbler | I know i use that idea when planning on how to take out a GM in a pre-determined camp site |
| 20:29.29 | brlcad | hence, why I think it's something that probably needs to be a little more configurable (perhaps a general facility for all of the flags, for that matter) |
| 20:29.54 | brlcad | unless it's just set to something like 100->500 |
| 20:30.28 | brlcad | tupone: it'd be interesting to see how it behaves if that triangle map is made 1000x1000 |
| 20:31.07 | brlcad | it could be a side effect of there just being too many reflections on such a small map like playground |
| 20:31.08 | Tupone | what triangle map? playground? is not a triangle |
| 20:31.26 | brlcad | s/triangle/pyramid/ == playground |
| 20:31.37 | Tupone | IC |
| 20:32.05 | brlcad | okay.. not 15 minutes to compile that single .c file -- we're up to 25 minutes now :) |
| 20:32.09 | Tupone | I think are nb of segment = lenght / side |
| 20:32.21 | brlcad | side? |
| 20:32.33 | Tupone | map's |
| 20:34.47 | Tupone | BZDB_LASERADVEL * BZDB_LASERADLIFE * BZDB_SHOTSPEED * BZDB_RELOADTIME / 100 |
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| 20:37.55 | Tupone | 350 segments |
| 20:38.51 | brlcad | on small playground? |
| 20:38.56 | brlcad | or doesn't matter? |
| 20:39.06 | Tupone | on 100x100 playground |
| 20:39.16 | brlcad | looks like the laser actually propagates based on time |
| 20:39.59 | brlcad | so then it'd be fewer segments on a much larger map |
| 20:40.06 | Tupone | speed is 1000 the shot speed |
| 20:40.34 | Tupone | but lifetime is 0.1 a normal shot |
| 20:41.19 | brlcad | perhaps an easy fix would be to make the length dependant on the map size |
| 20:41.38 | Tupone | the easiest things is to alter the playground and change the laser speed ? |
| 20:42.02 | Tupone | I suppose you can change that in the world file |
| 20:42.18 | brlcad | can you? |
| 20:42.26 | brlcad | that'd work too |
| 20:42.40 | brlcad | you!=tupon you==anyone |
| 20:43.17 | Tupone | do that? we could limit number of segment? |
| 20:43.46 | Tupone | that's the safest things |
| 20:44.47 | Tupone | releasing time is arrived? |
| 20:45.07 | Tupone | s/is/has/ |
| 20:46.15 | brlcad | yea, maybe: / 1000 / (500 / BZDB_MAPSIZE) instead of just / 1000 |
| 20:46.28 | brlcad | that would limit number of segments |
| 20:47.09 | Tupone | We should limit segment number while computing that :( |
| 20:47.31 | Tupone | there is no other way |
| 20:47.48 | Tupone | that number work in a free environment :( |
| 20:48.05 | brlcad | not understanding |
| 20:48.49 | Tupone | take a world full of boxes, near each others, with a little space between, and you shoot 89 degree in that space |
| 20:49.19 | brlcad | it'll limit it based on the map size, which isn't exactly the same as the number of segments, but it more general so that if there is something like a thin corner that causes many iterations, the laser won't necessarily stop just because it reflected N times |
| 20:50.45 | brlcad | right, I'd expect a grid of boxes to make a lot of segments, still.. it should |
| 20:50.47 | Tupone | so we should mantain a bug: sometime requiring more CPU then your program computing FFT |
| 20:51.03 | brlcad | :) |
| 20:51.19 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:51.20 | brlcad | actually compiler compiling file that computes FFT :) |
| 20:51.46 | brlcad | using it is fast :) |
| 20:52.21 | Tupone | we can suppose that any reflection attenuates laser :) |
| 20:53.09 | Tupone | so nobody can argue about that |
| 20:53.29 | brlcad | the walls boost the signal.. yes .. *cough* |
| 20:53.55 | Tupone | resonance? |
| 20:55.56 | Grumbler | the walls boost the signal?.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 20:56.22 | Grumbler | I like the idea that the number of reflections determines shot length |
| 20:56.46 | Grumbler | seems to make sense to me... |
| 20:57.22 | Grumbler | It would be nice to have some ability to pick that number though......but that maybe asking too much |
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| 21:05.57 | brlcad | I'd like to be able to specify anything other than at least something that can be peceived as infinate |
| 21:06.11 | brlcad | tupone: there was some other problem, though, on playground I think |
| 21:06.30 | Tupone | ? |
| 21:07.09 | Tupone | what kind of problem? |
| 21:10.13 | brlcad | when I shoot the laser, I am unable to connect until laserAdLife (which was 10 seconds) |
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| 21:10.19 | brlcad | s/connect/respawn/ |
| 21:10.42 | brlcad | if you shot, I would respawn normal |
| 21:12.37 | Tupone | that is the delay I told you |
| 21:13.16 | Tupone | it was before me :) |
| 21:20.39 | Grumbler | hmmm.....ati radeon 9800 xT.....sounds interesting |
| 21:22.24 | Patlabor221 | have they fixed there texture filtering issues in GL yet? |
| 21:22.47 | Grumbler | dont know, just looking at the available memory bandwidth |
| 21:23.08 | Grumbler | .......looking at new PCs.... |
| 21:23.39 | Patlabor221 | I'v had bad bad luck with ATI drivers |
| 21:23.49 | Patlabor221 | gave my 9700 away |
| 21:24.19 | Tupone | brlcad: what was your impression about streamrolling from above: fixed? |
| 21:26.43 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): getting stuck for expansion is fixed |
| 21:31.26 | bryjen | quit |
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| 21:40.00 | brlcad | tupone: yes fixed |
| 21:40.38 | Tupone | I remove from BUGS |
| 21:41.13 | brlcad | already did |
| 21:42.11 | Tupone | :( |
| 21:42.13 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): tupone made intersection test an ellipsoid, instead of a sphere.. works much better for squishy tanks |
| 21:42.16 | brlcad | ;) |
| 21:43.04 | Tupone | all those BUGS in SF ! And I cannot do anything |
| 21:43.15 | brlcad | why? protocol? |
| 21:43.46 | Tupone | SF have a lot of BUG I never get |
| 21:43.58 | Tupone | mostly windows |
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| 21:46.45 | bryjen | is the 1.9 list server down? |
| 21:47.19 | bryjen | ~nslookup db.bzflag.org |
| 21:48.17 | Tupone | I think/hope Tim is messing with it |
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| 22:18.06 | Chestal | waah, a m0nster! |
| 22:18.35 | sn0w_m0nster | grooooowwwwwwlllll |
| 22:18.37 | david_v | scary. now i can't sleep |
| 22:18.39 | sn0w_m0nster | hi ches |
| 22:19.04 | Chestal | sn0w_m0nster: hya |
| 22:19.22 | sn0w_m0nster | i think i like this new alias |
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| 22:24.06 | Chestal | what kind of snow monster are you? Yeti like? |
| 22:25.57 | Patlabor221 | probalby an atomic cow |
| 22:26.34 | Chestal | Patlabor: #7? |
| 22:26.53 | Patlabor221 | that's the one we don't have |
| 22:26.59 | Patlabor221 | the one with the plane right? |
| 22:27.19 | Chestal | yes |
| 22:27.25 | Chestal | that's the one I don't have either |
| 22:27.46 | Patlabor221 | it's odd cus it's a modern bike, and a WW2 P38 lightning |
| 22:29.25 | sn0w_m0nster | abdominal snow monster |
| 22:29.55 | sn0w_m0nster | i named it after my stomach |
| 22:32.11 | brlcad | TimRiker: if glibc6 is okay (rh8), http://brlcad.org/tmp/sqlite.so |
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| 23:47.51 | fiberchunks_ | allo |
| 23:49.06 | orchid | hi |
| 23:49.40 | orchid | hows the renovations going? |
| 23:49.49 | fiberchunks_ | slowly ;) |
| 23:49.59 | fiberchunks_ | drywalling ceilings _sucks_ :\ |
| 23:50.27 | Patlabor221 | you doing it all alone? |
| 23:50.40 | fiberchunks_ | indeedy |
| 23:50.46 | fiberchunks_ | getting a panel jack tomorrow |
| 23:51.33 | fiberchunks_ | walls I like, they're no problem, but ceilings absolutely -- without question -- suck. |
| 23:53.48 | Grumbler | when your done......there is a little project over here that could use similar attention |
| 23:55.06 | fiberchunks_ | heh, plane ticket, labor and materials, and I'll come out ;) |
| 23:55.57 | creeperz | ceilings are a bitch to drywall :-) |
| 23:56.01 | creeperz | I just did 3 of them |
| 23:56.16 | Grumbler | just a wealth of experts...... |
| 23:58.02 | fiberchunks_ | lol, I wouldn't go that far |
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| 23:59.03 | Grumbler | haha, i loathe drywall, can never get the joints perfect........and obviously the previous owner of this house couldnt get them right either |
| 23:59.26 | fiberchunks_ | yah, but that's the key -- tape is 2" wide you know ;) |
| 23:59.29 | Grumbler | well...where there is drywall.....some is plaster |