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| 03:56.03 | magic_syrup | ibot, what happened to your log for saturday |
| 03:56.06 | | magic_syrup: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 03:59.02 | TimRiker | magic_syrup, ibot went AWOL. |
| 03:59.18 | TimRiker | bot thought he was connected, but wasn't. |
| 03:59.20 | TimRiker | ~status |
| 03:59.22 | | Since Mon Nov 10 03:46:59 2003, there have been 0 modifications, 4 questions, 4 dunnos, 0 morons and 4 commands. I have been awake for 12m 21s this session, and currently reference 85579 factoids. I'm using about 11284 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. |
| 04:00.22 | magic_syrup | silly bot |
| 04:01.43 | magic_syrup | how does ibot determine # of morons |
| 04:02.25 | TimRiker | ibot listens to text that starts with "ibot" and tries to parse it so if you way something really long that he cannot understand you get called a morn. |
| 04:02.33 | TimRiker | er moron. |
| 04:02.33 | creeperz | counts starting with me? |
| 04:02.40 | TimRiker | hmm. that should have triggered it. |
| 04:02.54 | TimRiker | ibot sdlfjalskjdf a;skjdf klaj sdljfk a;lskh df;lkajs dfl kjasdlkf ;lkajsd flkja s;ldjf l;akjsdf lkja sdl;f jalsk fd;lakjsdf l;kja sdflkjasljf l;aksjdf l;kja sdfl kjasldfj l;aksj dflkja sdf lkjasdl fjalsk dfl;kajsdf lkajs dfl;kjas df lkj |
| 04:02.56 | | You are moron #1, TimRiker |
| 04:03.31 | TimRiker | it's silly, really. :-) |
| 04:03.33 | bryjen | we all knew Tim was the head of something ;) |
| 04:03.34 | Big_Barrel | hiay tim |
| 04:04.01 | Big_Barrel | timriker: maybe some time you can tell me how to bypass a proxy server to run BZ |
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| 04:04.13 | Big_Barrel | someone said you were able to |
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| 04:06.38 | Ares_home | good morning |
| 04:07.40 | Ares_home | and good night all |
| 04:08.21 | TimRiker | Big_Barrel, transconnect on linux. |
| 04:08.26 | TimRiker | ~google transconnect |
| 04:10.10 | TimRiker | Big_Barrel, you need to do things by IP address and list server needs work. (it hands you the IP but then tries to lookup the name anyway) |
| 04:10.23 | TimRiker | oh, and udp does not work (should be obvious) |
| 04:10.32 | TimRiker | and performance sucks. |
| 04:10.44 | Big_Barrel | with proxy? |
| 04:10.45 | TimRiker | oh, and in case you missed it, performance sucks. |
| 04:10.48 | Big_Barrel | no udp? |
| 04:10.55 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 04:11.01 | TimRiker | http connect does not do udp. just tcp. |
| 04:11.11 | Big_Barrel | durn |
| 04:11.15 | Big_Barrel | oh well |
| 04:11.27 | Big_Barrel | there are some guys at my work that want to play |
| 04:11.44 | Big_Barrel | i told them i would find out about proxy info |
| 04:11.46 | Big_Barrel | oh well |
| 04:12.05 | TimRiker | some other proxys might do udp and suck less. patches welcome. I have not integrated it cause I only use it for testing and |
| 04:12.13 | TimRiker | you might have guessed: performance sucks. |
| 04:12.21 | Big_Barrel | hehe |
| 04:12.27 | Big_Barrel | ok i believe you :) |
| 04:12.33 | TimRiker | 800ms lag time anyone? |
| 04:12.40 | Big_Barrel | no thanks |
| 04:12.46 | Big_Barrel | well i gotta get |
| 04:12.49 | Big_Barrel | work tomorrow |
| 04:12.52 | Big_Barrel | it is late |
| 04:12.52 | TimRiker | k. |
| 04:12.54 | Big_Barrel | cu |
| 04:12.57 | Big_Barrel | thx tim :) |
| 04:13.12 | Big_Barrel | have you tried Fedora yet? |
| 04:14.04 | Big_Barrel | tim? |
| 04:14.40 | TimRiker | Big_Barrel, nope. /me is TimR@Debian.org |
| 04:14.46 | Big_Barrel | hehe |
| 04:14.48 | Big_Barrel | ok |
| 04:14.52 | Big_Barrel | cu man |
| 04:14.56 | TimRiker | ? |
| 04:15.04 | TimRiker | what happened to raw hide? same thing? |
| 04:15.15 | Big_Barrel | u talking to me? |
| 04:16.32 | TimRiker | yeah. assumed you are a rh type as you asked about fedora. |
| 04:16.35 | Big_Barrel | DeadMeat thinks raw hide is still there, but they are probabally going to move away from it and everything will go to fedora |
| 04:16.46 | Big_Barrel | you mean Red Hat |
| 04:16.48 | TimRiker | rh used to have a feed called rawhide that was updated with unstable stuff. |
| 04:16.56 | Big_Barrel | ah ok |
| 04:17.21 | Big_Barrel | ok well we will talk later :) |
| 04:17.26 | Big_Barrel | i gotta get :( |
| 04:17.28 | Big_Barrel | cu |
| 04:17.38 | TimRiker | back before I got totally fed up with redhat (the company, not the distro) I was using rawhide and contributing to it. |
| 04:17.52 | TimRiker | expecting that patches would make it into the disto. |
| 04:18.12 | creeperz | How do I apply patches again? |
| 04:18.14 | creeperz | linux |
| 04:18.36 | TimRiker | when nothing did and my bugzilla bugs (with patches) weny unanswered release after release, I decided that rh did not know how to work with the community. |
| 04:18.53 | TimRiker | creeperz, get the source, apply the patch, build the source. |
| 04:19.09 | TimRiker | patch -p0 < foo.diff or similar should work. |
| 04:19.16 | creeperz | Alright |
| 04:19.18 | creeperz | Thanks |
| 04:19.55 | TimRiker | went to debian. on my first box I would 5 or 6 things I did not like that I would call bugs. figured how to get the source, made and patch, sent it in. |
| 04:20.30 | TimRiker | on my next debian system install a week or so later all but one of my fixes had already been integrated into debian unstable. |
| 04:20.35 | TimRiker | now that's service! |
| 04:21.58 | TimRiker | things don't always run that smoothly though. debian is still a pain in the butt to get installed. |
| 04:22.29 | magic_syrup | win32 is quite easy :) |
| 04:22.54 | TimRiker | huh? win32 what? |
| 04:23.01 | magic_syrup | to install |
| 04:23.23 | TimRiker | I don't agree. when's the last time you did a full win* install? |
| 04:23.28 | TimRiker | how long did it take? |
| 04:23.36 | purple_cow | including patching |
| 04:23.51 | magic_syrup | mmm year ago maybe |
| 04:24.22 | magic_syrup | but i rebuild it every other day or so, so.... |
| 04:24.22 | TimRiker | now that's the point. if debian came preinstalled on all you systems like windows does, you would think debian was easy to install too. |
| 04:24.33 | magic_syrup | oh, wait no... no need, sorry |
| 04:25.02 | TimRiker | s/you systems/your systems/ |
| 04:26.08 | TimRiker | once installed debian is smooth sailing. even complete OS upgrades are 1) edit /etc/apt/sources.list, 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get dist-upgrade. |
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| 04:27.29 | TimRiker | notice the lack of 1) reboot onto CD, 2) install base files, 3) reboot into base files, 4) install system, 5) reboot into base system, 6) for each custom hadware driver: install driver, reboot, ... |
| 04:27.50 | TimRiker | oh, then add a few more reboots on the end for good measure as drivers get configured. |
| 04:28.20 | purple_cow | don't forget a reboot after most software |
| 04:28.24 | TimRiker | oh, and a final (perhaps) reboot into the configured system. |
| 04:28.47 | TimRiker | oops... then you need to actually install apps: install, reboot, lather rinse repeat. |
| 04:28.47 | magic_syrup | but since you do it once every few years... it matters not |
| 04:29.19 | TimRiker | oops. forgot the patches that get released multiple times a year... install patch, reboot, watch configure, reboot again. |
| 04:29.33 | TimRiker | notice a trend? |
| 04:30.04 | TimRiker | now we are actually up! then we start doing work... oops a crash... back to rebooting. ;-) |
| 04:30.05 | magic_syrup | afraid of the startup screen? |
| 04:30.52 | TimRiker | afraid? no. interested in seeing it instead of getting work done? not in the slightest. |
| 04:31.21 | magic_syrup | hehe |
| 04:31.53 | TimRiker | well, tha was fun. it's good to pick on win* now and then. we now resume your regular programming already in progress. |
| 04:32.14 | magic_syrup | heh |
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| 05:17.48 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/misc (bzfs_conf.html): follow along with learner |
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| 06:02.06 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (HUDRenderer.cxx): no longer used |
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| 06:08.55 | magic_syrup | learners in the house... |
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| 06:18.36 | magic_syrup | it's the kitchen |
| 06:23.02 | magic_syrup | wow |
| 06:23.14 | magic_syrup | what constraint |
| 06:23.27 | magic_syrup | actually the kitchen reference was for cniv |
| 06:29.10 | JBDiGriz | Be careful peering over Unix guys shoulders. You'll find out their machines have been up for a lot longer than your windows boxen. :) |
| 06:29.30 | magic_syrup | heh |
| 06:29.47 | magic_syrup | i find it amusing this enjoyment of having a machine up |
| 06:29.59 | magic_syrup | my is never up more than 12 hours, by plan |
| 06:30.31 | JBDiGriz | I control my own DNS, mail server, etc. |
| 06:31.27 | magic_syrup | mm |
| 06:31.42 | JBDiGriz | I probably have a few more machines running around doing things than most people as well. |
| 06:32.16 | magic_syrup | i'm apparently not that efficient. one usually satisfies me |
| 06:33.15 | JBDiGriz | I actually can't do my job with only one machine. Network programming requires at least 3, but more helps with different conditions. |
| 06:34.04 | magic_syrup | mm, what may i ask do you network program? |
| 06:34.08 | magic_syrup | for work? |
| 06:34.51 | JBDiGriz | I'm a contractor. I work on network device drivers, and protocol stacks. |
| 06:35.13 | JBDiGriz | I also do some embedded work, depending on what's available. |
| 06:35.26 | magic_syrup | ever use 'the cloud'? |
| 06:36.03 | JBDiGriz | There was a GA tech os group putting together a project by that name. I was following them for a while. |
| 06:37.09 | magic_syrup | simulates network conditions/lags/drops, etc. quite useful for the single comp hacker. |
| 06:37.58 | JBDiGriz | That would be a different thing. I haven't used that one, although I've tried a couple of others. |
| 06:38.24 | JBDiGriz | Simulations are fine, but eventually it has to work in the real world. |
| 06:41.18 | JBDiGriz | If there was any money in it, I would probably be doing that :) |
| 06:42.07 | JBDiGriz | On the other hand, my current contract is ending in two weeks, and it's unlikely for me to pick up anything between Thanksgiving and the end of the year, so I might have time to work on one project or another. |
| 06:43.15 | JBDiGriz | Of course, my wife and kids have their own set of priorities set for that time as well :) |
| 06:46.00 | magic_syrup | well you should have plenty of time to get stuff in for the 1.10 release then ! |
| 06:49.25 | JBDiGriz | So we're going for one release per year at this point. |
| 06:53.08 | magic_syrup | year, i didn't say anything about a year. |
| 06:53.58 | magic_syrup | "Before the sun explodes" |
| 06:55.39 | JBDiGriz | 6/17/03, so we might be at 2 per year, unless we start waiting for me to fix networking. |
| 06:56.24 | magic_syrup | we're waiting... |
| 06:56.46 | magic_syrup | i will do everything in my power to hold up the release |
| 06:57.12 | magic_syrup | i don't believe in shipping new versions, way to stressful |
| 06:57.22 | JBDiGriz | I'm not really interested in the auxiliary servers right now. |
| 06:57.46 | magic_syrup | yes |
| 06:57.58 | magic_syrup | they are of no consequence |
| 06:58.23 | JBDiGriz | funny thing, i thought those were the ones holding up the release. |
| 06:59.00 | magic_syrup | heh |
| 06:59.04 | magic_syrup | yes, but they are done now |
| 07:00.59 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX (MacWindow.cxx): turn on the freaking depth buffer.. |
| 07:01.47 | magic_syrup | i knew learner couldn't resist |
| 07:02.13 | learner | :) |
| 07:02.19 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): squishy squishy. |
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| 07:17.13 | learner | ibot: sup G? |
| 07:17.14 | | nuthin, yous? |
| 07:17.35 | learner | yes, ibot is a she |
| 07:18.03 | learner | if you read logs from a couple years ago, her instantiators so donned her a she |
| 07:18.49 | JBDiGriz | she's also quite willing to perform |
| 07:20.08 | learner | jb: i imagine that there might be problems if a depth buffer isn't present, but I don't know of a mac in the past 7 years that doesn't have one |
| 07:22.22 | JBDiGriz | I'm not sure, but OSX 10.3 won't run on those macs either, so we might be ok. |
| 07:23.08 | JBDiGriz | It looks like it's missing the english resources entirely from the bzflag project. I'll check a previous project to see if it was included. |
| 07:25.54 | learner | is there actually an english resource? didnt' think there was |
| 07:27.49 | JBDiGriz | It doesn't look there there was one in previous builds either. just an addition of czech resources in the current build. |
| 07:28.55 | learner | hey.. the opengl profiler is pretty cool.. i can see every opengl call being made in order |
| 07:29.54 | learner | wow.. what inefficient opengl :( |
| 07:34.08 | JBDiGriz | For some reason, default is czech. I'll have to trace it down tomorrow. |
| 07:35.35 | learner | yikes.. there's a slight mismatch in the call stack.. every now and then, there's an extra glEnd |
| 07:38.05 | learner | we're spending a majority of the render time making calls to glBegin, glEnd, glCallList, glVertex3f, glVertex3fv, glVertex2f, glTexCoord2f, glClear, glDisable, & glPushMatrix -- that's in order of most time spent |
| 07:42.47 | learner | g'night |
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| 08:13.03 | bomber | moin |
| 08:13.05 | learner | moin |
| 08:13.12 | bomber | :o) |
| 08:13.16 | learner | :) |
| 08:13.39 | bomber | still here? |
| 08:13.56 | learner | bedtime :) |
| 08:14.00 | learner | bye |
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| 09:19.47 | Chikorita | moin |
| 09:20.12 | Chikorita | ~d |
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| 10:42.30 | Michaelh | hurray for network abuse! |
| 10:43.10 | Michaelh | wakey wakey! Almost time for lunch! |
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| 11:06.13 | Michaelh | IBOT |
| 11:12.43 | Michaelh | ibot |
| 11:15.42 | Michaelh | ibot run away! |
| 11:15.43 | | Michaelh: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 11:15.56 | Michaelh | ibot no |
| 11:15.57 | | YES |
| 11:20.45 | Michaelh | ibot YES |
| 11:20.46 | | You dont say! |
| 11:21.10 | Michaelh | ibot I do say! |
| 11:21.11 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Michaelh |
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| 15:56.01 | Michaelh | bleh |
| 15:57.35 | Michaelh | ibot bleh! |
| 15:57.36 | | Michaelh: are you using Windows? |
| 15:58.09 | Chestal | ~botsnack |
| 15:58.09 | | :), Chestal |
| 15:58.10 | Michaelh | ibot bleh! |
| 15:58.11 | | i don't know, Michaelh |
| 15:59.55 | Michaelh | if my ip address is 10.1.0.124 then I'm behind a NAT router, right? |
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| 16:01.57 | Chestal | hopefully |
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| 16:17.04 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || forums http://bzbb.bzflag.org || beta builds http://bzflag.dragon.org/builds || http://students.cs.byu.edu/~cs470ta/labs || ban exceptions /mode #BZFlag +e nick!*user@*.dip.t-dialin.net || main list server is back || brand-new list server for 1.9 is on http://db.bzflag.org/db/ |
| 16:17.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
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| 16:32.11 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 16:40.54 | TimRiker | What's up with the comment about the new list server being slow? it's fast in a browser. perhaps it's the client interface to it? |
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| 16:44.16 | learner | Haven't looked into why. It does take around 3-5 seconds for most everyone to get a server list. |
| 16:44.23 | learner | morning, jb |
| 16:51.25 | JBDiGriz | g'morning. I think you're seeing http overhead. |
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| 17:14.46 | learner | perhaps.. that's still a big delay |
| 17:15.10 | learner | maybe a really slow machine or slow algo? |
| 17:15.52 | learner | Tim: it consistently takes 5 seconds for me to curl http://db.bzflag.org/db/ |
| 17:16.55 | TimRiker | server's overloaded at the moment... |
| 17:17.07 | JBDiGriz | Have you tried just sending the request using telnet and seeing when you get a response? |
| 17:17.56 | TimRiker | looks like one of the tables in ibot's sqlite database is corrupt and causing loops. |
| 17:18.36 | JBDiGriz | she does have a corrupting influence on the weak mind. |
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| 18:12.46 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 18:13.00 | bryjen | whee, following the bouncing bot! |
| 18:13.14 | TimRiker | fixed ibot's sql database, should be back for good now? who knows. |
| 18:13.27 | TimRiker | test performance on db again and see if it's better. |
| 18:13.40 | JBDiGriz | ~listkeys slap |
| 18:14.09 | JBDiGriz | ~listkeys slap 2 |
| 18:14.19 | JBDiGriz | ~listkeys 2 slap |
| 18:14.37 | bryjen | ~duckslap JBDiGriz |
| 18:14.40 | | ACTION hauls JBDiGriz up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles. |
| 18:14.48 | bryjen | ouch. ;) |
| 18:15.04 | JBDiGriz | and here i am trying to massage her database. |
| 18:15.47 | bryjen | hmm. i wonder how the rates go for that... |
| 18:16.15 | JBDiGriz | ibot sucks |
| 18:16.16 | | If you got $5 I'll do more than that! |
| 18:16.34 | JBDiGriz | cheap thrills, if you're interested, bry :) |
| 18:16.35 | bryjen | but she never even hints as to what... ;) |
| 18:17.00 | JBDiGriz | you need to be on irc after primetime to hear that. |
| 18:18.29 | bryjen | hmm |
| 18:19.03 | JBDiGriz | or you can go for the "pay per message" ibot. |
| 18:19.34 | bryjen | ~tailslap Patlabor221 |
| 18:19.37 | | ACTION whacks Patlabor221 with a giant beaver's tail. |
| 18:19.43 | bryjen | eep |
| 18:20.14 | JBDiGriz | rfslap |
| 18:20.18 | JBDiGriz | ~rfslap |
| 18:20.35 | TimRiker | need to add all those to lart somehow. would be nice if people could just add new lart entries. hmm. |
| 18:21.05 | JBDiGriz | supybot allows the addition of insults/larts/... |
| 18:21.06 | TimRiker | ~rfslap #randomnick |
| 18:21.11 | TimRiker | ~rfslap $randomnick |
| 18:21.29 | JBDiGriz | It's not responding, although it's listed in the database. I was wondering about that. |
| 18:21.32 | Patlabor221 | huh? |
| 18:21.43 | bryjen | I wonder what the ASPCA would think of all this ;) |
| 18:21.55 | Patlabor221 | we were trying to figure out the last to invisibles |
| 18:22.22 | JBDiGriz | if it's related to rodents, it's probably groundhog day or caddyshack. |
| 18:22.35 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 18:22.41 | Patlabor221 | we only need 2 |
| 18:22.46 | Patlabor221 | and it's on a beach |
| 18:22.52 | bryjen | us-uns are just assaulting random peoples with animals |
| 18:22.55 | Patlabor221 | 1 and 6 |
| 18:23.05 | bryjen | ~invisibles |
| 18:23.06 | | i guess invisibles is at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
| 18:24.17 | bryjen | hehe. the floating headwear always looks odd. |
| 18:25.27 | Chestal | I need 5 and 6 |
| 18:26.03 | Patlabor221 | 5 = early tom hanks movie |
| 18:26.42 | Chestal | 1=scene near the end of the movie, person ist not quite sure what's in the parcel |
| 18:26.57 | TimRiker | JBDiGriz: re supy, nod. it's a cool feature there. |
| 18:27.09 | Chestal | hab nen fetten Tip zu #5 bekommen |
| 18:27.10 | Chestal | oops |
| 18:27.29 | JBDiGriz | ~x de en hab nen fetten Tip zu #5 bekommen |
| 18:28.18 | TimRiker | ~rfslap |
| 18:28.24 | JBDiGriz | I think that means he is still working on #5, although that was a pretty obvious hint. |
| 18:28.50 | TimRiker | ~rlart |
| 18:28.59 | Patlabor221 | # was on tv a lot here |
| 18:29.33 | Patlabor221 | #5 even |
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| 18:45.31 | TimRiker | ~rfslap |
| 18:49.48 | JBDiGriz | Does czech show up in the latest win or linux builds? It isn't listed in the automake. |
| 18:56.05 | bryjen | locale cs_CZ ? |
| 18:57.01 | Tupone | JBDiGriz: that is missing from the distribution :( |
| 18:57.26 | JBDiGriz | czech shows up as the default in the mac build. |
| 18:58.09 | Tupone | make dist does not take that. Should fix |
| 19:04.41 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/data/l10n (Makefile.am): distribution include czech locale |
| 19:05.59 | JBDiGriz | Does it show up as one of the options now? |
| 19:06.50 | Tupone | I see that before, so I suppose yes! But the fixes is not related to that, just inclusion on the build |
| 19:07.06 | Tupone | s/buid/distribution kit/ |
| 19:08.18 | Tupone | the menu options are related to the file it found on the data directory IIRC |
| 19:08.45 | JBDiGriz | I wasn't sure it was being moved to the data directory if it wasn't in the automake. |
| 19:11.50 | Tupone | You're right. Make install copies in the right directory what is in the EXTRA_DIST. I saw that' vause I'm not using make install |
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| 19:11.58 | learner | Tim: not sure how things are on your end, but I ether see a consistent 1.8s delay on db or about 4s |
| 19:12.24 | Tupone | learner: I take some measurement |
| 19:12.25 | hans | how much bandwidth does a server with about 14 players take up? |
| 19:12.42 | Tupone | learner: I was just writing in BUG, but I can say you |
| 19:13.02 | learner | write in bugs too :) |
| 19:14.00 | Tupone | learner: removing the tcp stuff, bzfls.pl on Tim's take from 1.7 to 1.9 sec to get to the list |
| 19:14.22 | Tupone | learner: bzflsMy.php and bzflsLite.php about 0.3 sec |
| 19:14.27 | Tupone | on yours |
| 19:15.20 | learner | so either his connection sucks, his machine sucks, or the perl beast is being .. well .. a beast |
| 19:15.34 | Tupone | :) |
| 19:16.17 | learner | I'm betting it's a combination of all three :) |
| 19:16.25 | Tupone | and I think we could do better on php, if needed using permanent connection |
| 19:16.39 | Tupone | s/d u/d, u/ |
| 19:17.48 | learner | it would be useful to have tim drop in the php replace ment and see how it compares |
| 19:17.54 | TimRiker | scanline: how does CIA get into so many channels? lilo gave him ircop? |
| 19:18.42 | Tupone | SQLite on php. Hadn't be a pain? |
| 19:19.06 | learner | talked to lilo the other day, CIA's at/near a hard server limit that can't be fixed until 1.1 |
| 19:19.43 | learner | CIA's specifically had his limit increased, though |
| 19:21.24 | Patlabor221 | the normal user limit is 20 |
| 19:21.32 | Patlabor221 | so says Tim with ibot |
| 19:22.00 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): Adding some measure to bzfls slowness problem |
| 19:22.40 | TimRiker | learner: CIA claims 68 channels? sheesh. |
| 19:22.57 | Patlabor221 | yes but its not in the last 8 |
| 19:23.11 | Patlabor221 | that's why we had to get the supybot to echo for us into project24 |
| 19:23.14 | TimRiker | ah. 60 is the hard limit then? |
| 19:23.28 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:23.38 | Patlabor221 | they can up the soft limit from 20 to 60 |
| 19:24.37 | TimRiker | they==lilo? |
| 19:25.27 | Patlabor221 | this is what learner says lilo said |
| 19:25.40 | learner | they==*.staff.freenode |
| 19:26.54 | Patlabor221 | the echo thing works well, once you get the supybot to not ever reply to stuff in that channel |
| 19:27.09 | Patlabor221 | wonder if we should lobotemise it just in #commits |
| 19:27.56 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzflsLite.php): db name |
| 19:32.18 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (2 files): license |
| 19:33.52 | TimRiker | ok, so what do I need to add to the server to get the php version up and running? |
| 19:35.39 | Tupone | TimRiker: learner should have instructions to get SQLite-php running. He has done that. |
| 19:36.41 | TimRiker | learner: some help here? |
| 19:36.47 | TimRiker | php4 ? |
| 19:37.39 | learner | hmm? |
| 19:37.56 | learner | oh. is php installed? |
| 19:38.16 | learner | you'll need both modphp and the php cgi |
| 19:39.15 | TimRiker | got the cgi, which php packages? php4 I presume? and what did you do for sqlite? |
| 19:39.27 | learner | yes, php4 |
| 19:39.40 | learner | for sqlite, try "pear install sqlite" |
| 19:39.48 | learner | see if you have pear |
| 19:40.33 | learner | if you have pear, and it says it cannot find sqlite, then let me know |
| 19:43.51 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (menus.cxx): with large worlds, you need ability to get longer shot tails. the size should be relative to the world or view size, but this is a good start. |
| 19:44.15 | learner | once pear installs it, you need to put a line into your php.ini so that the sqlite module is always loaded |
| 19:44.34 | learner | under "extensions" |
| 19:55.51 | TimRiker | sqlite: could not open the package file: sqlite |
| 19:55.58 | TimRiker | that's what pear said... |
| 19:56.31 | learner | hrmm |
| 19:56.40 | learner | did it download? |
| 19:56.51 | TimRiker | xmlrpc support not loaded ... |
| 19:57.23 | TimRiker | php4-domxml ? |
| 19:57.24 | learner | pear install xml_rpc |
| 19:57.58 | TimRiker | I'd prefer to use the debian packages before going external... I presume someone has done all the base ones... |
| 19:58.06 | learner | i think you have to sudo or su the pear commands -- i don't think it complains |
| 19:58.08 | TimRiker | then md5sums and everything works. |
| 19:58.17 | TimRiker | yeah, I'm root. |
| 19:58.46 | learner | debian? |
| 19:58.58 | TimRiker | yeah. debian stable. |
| 19:59.31 | TimRiker | fire alarm... |
| 19:59.49 | learner | heh |
| 20:01.42 | Tupone | if you want to stay with stable, I think you should use MySQL |
| 20:02.18 | learner | i can walk you through that too, if needed |
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| 20:32.04 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): tupone slaughters the little critters |
| 20:32.16 | learner | we should chat more often in here.. :) |
| 20:32.39 | JBDiGriz | it's a race between learner and tupone, can tupone slaughter them faster than learner can create them? |
| 20:32.48 | learner | hehe |
| 20:33.03 | Tupone | ~dict critters |
| 20:33.09 | Tupone | ~dict critter |
| 20:33.16 | Patlabor221 | anyone fixed the gl bugs? |
| 20:33.21 | learner | domestic??! |
| 20:33.57 | learner | don't think so, pat |
| 20:34.03 | learner | which are those? |
| 20:34.13 | Tupone | I' m creating new bugs, too! |
| 20:34.32 | Tupone | I like a changing World |
| 20:35.12 | Patlabor221 | frame buffer state is lost on occasion. state for some moutan panels is jacked at night ( they pick up the state from any shot glows ). when burrowed the groun dosnt' z buffer out shots and flags. |
| 20:35.39 | Patlabor221 | something is jacking the state and it's not being reset |
| 20:37.14 | learner | ah.. yes.. I remember the pretty screenshots now |
| 20:37.20 | learner | those are unfixed, afaik |
| 20:37.55 | Patlabor221 | wow the .net compile is a lot slower |
| 20:37.58 | JBDiGriz | learner: I know you like foreign languages, but you don't have to copy czech into the program twice. |
| 20:38.09 | learner | JB, i made mods to the opengltexfont and getwidth since that was where my last debugging attempts pointed at |
| 20:38.22 | JBDiGriz | This was your changes to the project. |
| 20:38.40 | learner | there was some funky conversions going on in getWidth that I got rid of, hopefullly fixes the crashes |
| 20:38.53 | learner | oh really? hehe |
| 20:39.39 | Patlabor221 | ooooo the debuger will let you break on uninted variables at run time, that's nice |
| 20:40.05 | Tupone | Have to do something to not starve. CYLat. |
| 20:40.11 | learner | tupone: want to go through the sf list now? |
| 20:40.17 | learner | ah, okay |
| 20:40.25 | Tupone | after |
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| 20:41.12 | learner | since most of those bugs are assigned to TimRiker, he needs to get busy!.. :) |
| 20:41.35 | TimRiker | or perhaps just reassign them all... |
| 20:42.18 | learner | fire alarm over? |
| 20:42.27 | JBDiGriz | You include the bzflag_cs_CZ.po file in the bundle resources as well as the copy files resources. |
| 20:42.44 | JBDiGriz | I'll verify and check it in when I get home this evening. |
| 20:43.26 | learner | not clear why that causes the problem being seen, but okay :) |
| 20:43.29 | scanline | TimRiker: lilo did some sort of OPER-line mojo to get CIA into more than 20 channels.. though now it's running up against a 60-channel limit that lilo won't get it around, so someone's going to have to give it multi-bot support |
| 20:44.17 | Patlabor221 | the supy bot people made us a reapeater plugin to get around it |
| 20:44.23 | scanline | it's current code is rather icky, so if I get the courage to touch it at all I'll probably rewrite it using something like supybot :) |
| 20:44.37 | Patlabor221 | just looks for a line that matches a grep and sends it to another channel |
| 20:45.24 | JBDiGriz | The po file shows up in the Resources directory, as well as the Resources/l10n directory. It apparently loads all resources in the first directory, and let's us decide what to load from the l10n directory. |
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| 20:52.22 | gonk-class | oh no... not Guu |
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| 20:52.44 | sn0w_d0ggy | Hi all |
| 20:52.47 | sn0w_d0ggy | czesc |
| 20:52.51 | sn0w_d0ggy | yoyox |
| 20:53.06 | jolly | hi merry |
| 20:53.41 | sn0w_d0ggy | hi jolly |
| 20:56.26 | sn0w_d0ggy | ~pillow ibot |
| 20:56.29 | | ACTION starts a pillow fight with ibot |
| 21:06.33 | sn0w_d0ggy | bye all |
| 21:06.40 | sn0w_d0ggy | have fun learner |
| 21:06.42 | sn0w_d0ggy | :) |
| 21:06.47 | learner | :) |
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| 21:32.13 | david_v | hey all |
| 21:34.16 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX (MacWindow.cxx): finally have -window working for Mac OS X |
| 21:34.38 | captain_proton | hm |
| 21:34.58 | learner | :) |
| 21:35.10 | learner | that would be nice, but no rush |
| 21:35.26 | learner | half lie jb :) |
| 21:35.35 | JBDiGriz | which half? |
| 21:35.48 | learner | it will set the resolution to what you specify |
| 21:35.55 | learner | but no "window" still .. heh |
| 21:36.10 | JBDiGriz | It's a start :) |
| 21:36.36 | [dmp] | hey david |
| 21:36.47 | JBDiGriz | I suppose I should figure out a way to specify a resolution in the plist. |
| 21:37.12 | learner | i think technically I meant "-geometry" |
| 21:37.23 | learner | but i was testing with -window.. |
| 21:37.41 | JBDiGriz | That would be the x11 terminology, however x11 doesn't really apply in this case :) |
| 21:38.06 | learner | -geometry works as I'd expect too.. *whew* |
| 21:47.53 | david_v | heya Holy Bracket |
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| 22:06.43 | patlabor221_ | yay we got all the invisibles :) |
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| 22:13.37 | drinian | Hey, how do you query the 1.9 list server? -list http://db.bzflag.org/db ? |
| 22:13.54 | Tupone | with the / at the end |
| 22:14.10 | drinian | add the forward slash at the end? |
| 22:14.12 | Tupone | or just remove any previous setting, its default |
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| 22:14.44 | Tupone | edit ~/.bzf/config and remove set list .... |
| 22:15.05 | drinian | Oh, right. I forgot that. Thanks. |
| 22:15.05 | Tupone | it take 4/5 sec to show :( |
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| 22:16.17 | Tupone | learner: |
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| 22:17.30 | Bagheera | ~botsnack |
| 22:17.30 | | Bagheera: :) |
| 22:17.37 | Bagheera | !botsnack |
| 22:17.38 | Guu | gee, thanks! |
| 22:17.44 | drinian | Tupone: Still not working for me...any suggestions? |
| 22:17.52 | JBDiGriz | ~shoot Bagheera |
| 22:17.55 | | ACTION shoots Bagheera in the head. |
| 22:17.57 | Tupone | have you waited enough? |
| 22:18.11 | Tupone | where you get the version? CVS |
| 22:18.17 | drinian | I think so. I'm behind squid, but it's worked before. |
| 22:18.25 | Bagheera | JBDiGriz: violence solves nothing |
| 22:18.27 | drinian | CVS 1.9.9 |
| 22:18.36 | drinian | sourceforge |
| 22:18.58 | JBDiGriz | I don't know, that sort of violence definitely puts an end to anything further :) |
| 22:19.13 | Tupone | last from CVS or the 1.9.9 |
| 22:19.14 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX (MacWindow.cxx): quell warning |
| 22:19.14 | Guu | <CIA> bzflag: 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX (MacWindow.cxx): quell warning |
| 22:19.31 | learner | heh |
| 22:19.32 | drinian | from CVS this afternoon. |
| 22:19.33 | JBDiGriz | Ah, the change to guu works. :) |
| 22:20.02 | Tupone | try to browse http://db.bzflag.org/db/ |
| 22:20.37 | Bagheera | ~decap JBDiGriz |
| 22:20.42 | | ACTION takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking JBDiGriz 's head off |
| 22:20.42 | drinian | It gives me the list |
| 22:20.45 | learner | drinian: may need to wait for many seconds.. |
| 22:21.03 | JBDiGriz | Tupone: It came right up for me. |
| 22:21.38 | Bagheera | time for cipro....cya |
| 22:21.51 | Tupone | drinian: got something ? |
| 22:22.00 | david_v | ah ibot is back. we all missed his kindness |
| 22:24.37 | learner | just a caplocks wound |
| 22:24.54 | JBDiGriz | Guu allows those sort of transformations. :) |
| 22:24.55 | Guu | JBDiGriz: Error: 'allows' is not a valid command. |
| 22:25.10 | JBDiGriz | Guu: insult learner |
| 22:25.11 | Guu | JBDiGriz: Error: 'insult' is not a valid command. |
| 22:25.20 | *** join/#bzflag Pimpinella (frank@p508200A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:25.27 | Pimpinella | hi |
| 22:25.47 | JBDiGriz | Guu: insult learner |
| 22:25.48 | bryjen | hrm. the opposite of decap... encap? or just cap? either way, /me is worried about turning captain_proton in a verb. ;) |
| 22:25.48 | Guu | learner: <action> Slaps %who with a fish. (#2) |
| 22:26.36 | bryjen | ibot: educate JBDiGriz |
| 22:26.39 | | ACTION teaches JBDiGriz the basics, including how to RTM. |
| 22:27.09 | Pimpinella | my server doesnt appear on the serverlist, what could be the reason? |
| 22:27.25 | Tupone | Pimpinella: 1.9 or 1.7 |
| 22:27.29 | JBDiGriz | that insult was added by Pat, I have to fix it. :) |
| 22:27.35 | Pimpinella | 1.7g2 |
| 22:28.04 | *** join/#bzflag drinian (~chatzilla@pcp03995358pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:28.27 | drinian | Oh my...it locked me up and blew me off |
| 22:28.32 | Pimpinella | on another machine with the same options it works |
| 22:28.43 | JBDiGriz | Guu: insult learner |
| 22:28.44 | Guu | learner: Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberrys. (#1) |
| 22:29.30 | drinian | Tupone: sorry about disappearing...I waited longer for the list server and it froze. |
| 22:29.31 | Tupone | Pimpinella: list server call you back before declaring, so if bzfs is not reachable is discarded |
| 22:29.58 | Tupone | drinian: 5 sec should be enough |
| 22:30.05 | Pimpinella | Tupone: on whic port it calls back? |
| 22:30.20 | Tupone | the port you declared |
| 22:30.36 | drinian | Hmm...I've got to look into this... |
| 22:30.37 | Tupone | 5155 by default |
| 22:30.55 | Pimpinella | i can play on the server so the port should be open? |
| 22:31.14 | Tupone | have you firewall between the list server and the server? |
| 22:31.52 | Pimpinella | maybe the provider has, but i dont think so |
| 22:32.18 | Tupone | give me the address:port to try |
| 22:32.53 | JBDiGriz | ibot manual |
| 22:32.55 | | i heard manual is at http://www.ibot.org/guide-0.43.x.html, or there is no manual, ibot.org is gone, read the source. |
| 22:32.56 | Pimpinella | 80.190.197.154:5155 |
| 22:33.26 | Chestal | Pimpinell: do you use -publicaddr? |
| 22:34.04 | Chestal | nomis: hmm? |
| 22:34.06 | Chestal | oops |
| 22:34.16 | *** join/#bzflag Legolas (~topgunp38@adsl-68-73-87-15.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 22:34.44 | Tupone | Pimpinella: it is reachable so no firewall problem |
| 22:34.56 | Pimpinella | i use -public and -publiclist, exact the same commandline works on another server |
| 22:35.15 | Pimpinella | should i try -publicaddr ? |
| 22:35.28 | Tupone | Pimpinella: try -publicaddr 80.190.197.154:5155 |
| 22:37.27 | Tupone | Pimpinella: it show up |
| 22:37.30 | Pimpinella | cool, it works now tnx |
| 22:37.56 | Pimpinella | man bzfs |
| 22:38.12 | Pimpinella | oops, wron commandline... |
| 22:38.17 | Pimpinella | wrong |
| 22:42.05 | Pimpinella | good night all, tnx Tupone & Chestal |
| 22:42.10 | Tupone | np |
| 22:45.23 | learner | Mmmmm.. elderberries |
| 22:45.48 | JBDiGriz | We need more and better insults |
| 22:47.52 | Tupone | learner: when bots are dead, any frame they do request being alive, and don't stop until alive. That's why they flops in |
| 22:49.26 | learner | spaz :) |
| 22:49.33 | Tupone | yeah |
| 22:49.41 | Tupone | ~dict spaz |
| 22:50.04 | bryjen | ~spell spastic |
| 22:50.06 | | 'spastic' may be spelled correctly |
| 22:50.13 | bryjen | ~dict spastic |
| 22:50.39 | Legolas | nite |
| 22:50.42 | Tupone | they do multiple request before getting alive, and server reposition them several times |
| 22:51.20 | *** join/#bzflag dennis_ (~dennis@port151.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 23:06.49 | [dmp] | ladder.bzflag.org is down, long live the stairs :) |
| 23:07.22 | Chestal | stairs.bzflag.org does not exist, try again |
| 23:07.33 | [dmp] | :) |
| 23:11.58 | [dmp] | Bad luck or real good timing? I reinstall the server on new disks. Get it running finally.. Reinstall websites/data from old disk, which is mounted. A day passes..I notice that server is trashing disk (dont know for how long or why).. Finds that cronjobs seems to hang.. disk is trashing alot.. System is locked up, cant kill cronjobs.. reboots.. .. BIOS cant find old disk. Disconnect old disk, everything boots.. Everything works.. No, my |
| 23:11.58 | [dmp] | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.47 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 23:18.10 | david_v | hey bzg |
| 23:18.13 | orchid | hello |
| 23:19.42 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): refixed rabbit team and tk |
| 23:19.43 | Guu | <CIA> bzflag: 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): refixed rabbit team and tk |
| 23:29.32 | david_v | good night |
| 23:29.49 | orchid | cu david_v |
| 23:37.10 | Tupone | good nite all |
| 23:37.22 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@host104-213.pool212171.interbusiness.it) |
| 23:43.03 | Patlabor221 | TimRiker: id it OK if guu does the CIA reporting instead of the CIA bot, so that it can free up another channel slot for somone ese? |
| 23:44.29 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: don't care... ie: fine with me. |
| 23:45.31 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 23:47.39 | *** part/#bzflag CIA (CIA@cia.utility.freenode) |
| 23:48.04 | Patlabor221 | fair the well CIA, go and serve other to your best! :) |
| 23:48.55 | TimRiker | hmm.. which php sqlite package to use? got one? I got the SF one but it seems that's not what it was written for. |
| 23:48.56 | Patlabor221 | what does CIA stand for anyway? |
| 23:49.41 | TimRiker | ~cia |
| 23:49.42 | | methinks cia is a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline. http://navi.picogui.org/svn/picogui/trunk/tools/irc/cia.html |
| 23:49.57 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what it says on the page |
| 23:50.08 | TimRiker | ~cia is also Central Intelligence Agency |
| 23:50.11 | | okay, TimRiker |
| 23:50.12 | Patlabor221 | but not what the initals are for |
| 23:50.14 | TimRiker | heh |
| 23:52.19 | JBDiGriz | From the web site, the bot is a brainless entity designed to monitor subversion |
| 23:52.19 | TimRiker | there was a reason, but I forgot it. |
| 23:53.03 | Patlabor221 | good CIA still tracking stats, just not in a channel :) |