| 00:13.44 | Chestal | d |
| 00:13.51 | Chestal | oops |
| 00:13.53 | Chestal | hi orchid |
| 00:40.58 | david_v | zzz... good night |
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| 02:59.38 | Bagheera | ok, all those who had their house egg'ed raise your hands |
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| 03:00.42 | Bagheera | hey pat |
| 03:00.54 | Patlabor221 | hallo |
| 03:01.04 | Bagheera | ok, all those who had their house egg'ed raise your hands |
| 03:01.24 | Patlabor221 | rain + motorocyle + me + hands != good |
| 03:01.57 | Bagheera | try hot tea |
| 03:02.21 | Bagheera | ...hmmm, rain in LA..... |
| 03:02.40 | captain_proton | blah, that's not cold |
| 03:02.47 | Patlabor221 | well I'm not in LA proper, nether city or county |
| 03:02.54 | captain_proton | here its raining, but as soon as the water falls on something it freezes |
| 03:03.02 | captain_proton | so everything has a fairly thick coat of ice on it |
| 03:03.06 | Patlabor221 | it's probably not that cold, but it feels like it |
| 03:03.14 | Patlabor221 | and all I had was my summer jacket |
| 03:03.22 | Patlabor221 | mesh |
| 03:03.33 | Bagheera | bet it makes cleaning the broken eggs up easier |
| 03:03.53 | Bagheera | until it thaws in spring |
| 03:04.28 | Patlabor221 | did you give them candy? |
| 03:04.55 | Bagheera | i gave out the full size bars of hersheys w/almonds |
| 03:05.04 | Patlabor221 | no wonder |
| 03:05.08 | Patlabor221 | they think your rich |
| 03:05.35 | Bagheera | hahaha |
| 03:05.39 | Patlabor221 | you have to be nice, but not memorable |
| 03:06.10 | Bagheera | i also gave out the 4"x6" hershey with almonds to the polite kids....guess that screwed me double |
| 03:06.20 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 03:06.46 | Bagheera | thats ok, next year small packets of sweet tarts |
| 03:06.53 | Patlabor221 | there ya go |
| 03:07.00 | Patlabor221 | it's all about the number of packes |
| 03:07.07 | Patlabor221 | makes them think they get more |
| 03:07.30 | Patlabor221 | hmmm, no JBD |
| 03:07.36 | Patlabor221 | wonder if he got a wiki set up |
| 03:07.39 | captain_proton | maybe he's trick-or-treating |
| 03:07.43 | Patlabor221 | posibly |
| 03:07.44 | Bagheera | hahah |
| 03:08.03 | Patlabor221 | he had some good comments on the list server plans I had posted |
| 03:08.03 | Bagheera | wonder what he went as |
| 03:08.41 | captain_proton | a curmudgeon unix hacker |
| 03:08.57 | Bagheera | same outfit as mac, eh |
| 03:09.05 | captain_proton | naw |
| 03:09.06 | Patlabor221 | no he's a win32 hacker |
| 03:09.09 | captain_proton | mac is a curmudgeon win32 hacker |
| 03:09.11 | captain_proton | :) |
| 03:09.14 | scanline | indeed |
| 03:09.28 | Patlabor221 | capy, want the kill bill soundtrack? |
| 03:09.31 | scanline | the 'development platform of choice' or some such |
| 03:09.49 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: meh |
| 03:09.51 | captain_proton | is it good? |
| 03:09.59 | Patlabor221 | it's all over the place |
| 03:10.01 | Patlabor221 | some is good |
| 03:10.04 | Patlabor221 | some is odd |
| 03:10.04 | captain_proton | woo, this is such a fantastic song |
| 03:11.19 | captain_proton | oO(/navi/media/audio/groups/Evanescence/fallen/09_hello.mp3) |
| 03:11.37 | Patlabor221 | it goes from a song by a japanese 50's style band, to one by zamfr |
| 03:13.45 | Bagheera | stats is back up, wow, runs really fast |
| 03:13.58 | Patlabor221 | noodleman redid it all |
| 03:14.13 | Patlabor221 | it's just stats, none of that comunity portal stuff from before |
| 03:14.52 | Bagheera | guess maps are going to end up on SF or shell shock |
| 03:14.58 | Patlabor221 | or BZBB |
| 03:15.16 | Patlabor221 | there are 3 places for it, so I can see why he said, why have 4 |
| 03:15.36 | Bagheera | yep, it is confusing for people |
| 03:16.25 | Bagheera | but i think he had a lot of maps that are no longer available..... |
| 03:16.41 | Bagheera | have to pm him and ask him to send them to SF or SS |
| 03:16.46 | Patlabor221 | I think he still has all the data |
| 03:16.54 | Bagheera | cool |
| 03:16.59 | Patlabor221 | is the SS guy even active anymore? |
| 03:17.49 | Patlabor221 | hmmm, what is a good rate for ogg? |
| 03:18.17 | Patlabor221 | and what the heck is ABR and VBR? |
| 03:18.24 | captain_proton | vbr is variable bit rate |
| 03:18.26 | captain_proton | dunno what abr is |
| 03:18.33 | captain_proton | maybe adaptive bit rate? |
| 03:18.36 | scanline | abstract bit rate~ |
| 03:18.38 | scanline | s/~/!/ |
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| 03:18.47 | Patlabor221 | 32k/s ? 64k/s? |
| 03:19.01 | Patlabor221 | or like 128 or 160 like MP3s? |
| 03:19.04 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: 96k/s will would pretty good, 128 will sound fantastic |
| 03:19.05 | scanline | Patlabor221: depends on what you're encoding |
| 03:19.13 | Patlabor221 | a CD |
| 03:19.14 | captain_proton | s/would/sound |
| 03:19.22 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 03:19.23 | captain_proton | 160 will be even more fantastic |
| 03:19.29 | Patlabor221 | 128 sounds good |
| 03:20.05 | Patlabor221 | I had heard that ogg had a smaller stream for the quality then Mp3 |
| 03:22.05 | captain_proton | yup |
| 03:22.20 | captain_proton | a 96k/s ogg will sound roughly equivalent to a 128k/s mp3 |
| 03:22.47 | Patlabor221 | k, and I usualy do Mp3 at 160 |
| 03:25.29 | Patlabor221 | oooo, a watch with 256 meg USB flash drive :) |
| 03:25.32 | Patlabor221 | that is cool |
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| 04:12.11 | Chikorita | trick or treat ums |
| 04:12.52 | Chikorita | ibot: botsnack lollipop |
| 04:12.52 | | thanks, Chikorita |
| 04:12.58 | Chikorita | :) |
| 04:58.42 | scanline | learner: mornin' |
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| 06:31.37 | learner | moin hollywood |
| 06:32.07 | hollywood | moin |
| 06:32.40 | hollywood | sometimes |
| 06:32.50 | learner | as who? |
| 06:33.09 | hollywood | i use different nicks |
| 06:33.24 | learner | any I might know? |
| 06:33.39 | learner | probably not, given you are .de, but perhaps :) |
| 06:35.05 | hollywood | im from netherlands, i often use formac |
| 06:35.45 | learner | ah, cool.. like the company :) |
| 06:36.08 | hollywood | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.37 | hollywood | now i know the formac, nice products |
| 06:39.47 | learner | there's a company called formac that make products "for Mac" :) Displays, optical drives, tvr, more |
| 06:39.57 | learner | :) |
| 06:44.22 | hollywood | itīs a bug |
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| 13:34.28 | david_v | hm server list down again |
| 13:34.32 | david_v | and i can't seem to join on any server... eh? |
| 13:34.40 | david_v | hm maybe my ISP tricking again... |
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| 14:12.04 | Legolas | good morning |
| 14:13.21 | Tupone | morning |
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| 14:21.34 | Legolas | ~d |
| 14:28.17 | HorNet | ~d |
| 14:58.55 | david_v | Chestal: (or anyone), can i find this little ibot for download somewhere? |
| 14:59.49 | [dmp] | ~ibot |
| 14:59.50 | | rumour has it, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
| 15:00.07 | david_v | duh |
| 15:00.09 | david_v | thx :) |
| 15:00.20 | [dmp] | :) |
| 15:00.41 | david_v | "The slowest and most bloated bot in the world", now that is promising :) |
| 15:01.03 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 15:02.48 | [dmp] | got new neo-green floppies :) |
| 15:03.46 | [dmp] | oh david_v. I got mod_perl running and "hello world"'d. Do you have any neat recommendation for packages i should look into? |
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| 15:04.41 | david_v | neo-green floppies... ahh... what an innovation :) well, no i don't know really, duh |
| 15:04.46 | david_v | never worked much with Perl modules |
| 15:06.22 | [dmp] | So you made everything yourself? |
| 15:06.39 | [dmp] | input parsing, session-control, templates (if you use that) ? |
| 15:06.56 | david_v | hm... ahem... :) |
| 15:06.59 | david_v | what? :) |
| 15:07.04 | david_v | lalala :) |
| 15:07.13 | [dmp] | "Im with stupid" |
| 15:07.14 | [dmp] | :) |
| 15:07.29 | [dmp] | oh well |
| 15:07.30 | david_v | thing is, i have used Perl in quite a limited sense |
| 15:07.35 | [dmp] | mason seems nice |
| 15:07.41 | [dmp] | same here |
| 15:07.41 | david_v | the most complicated application was 2000 lines or so |
| 15:07.48 | david_v | and that's just one script... yuk |
| 15:07.49 | david_v | ugly |
| 15:07.51 | [dmp] | ah i can beat that :) |
| 15:08.00 | [dmp] | 70.000 lines :) |
| 15:08.15 | [dmp] | but thats more than a single file, i have toadmit |
| 15:08.40 | david_v | i certainly hope so... or you wouldn't be far from suiciding :D |
| 15:08.54 | [dmp] | it was work :) |
| 15:09.05 | [dmp] | it was boring, and mostly maintaining it |
| 15:09.14 | [dmp] | but that was from scratch. |
| 15:09.17 | [dmp] | not even mod_perl |
| 15:09.43 | [dmp] | Im too lazy not to reuse something somewhere :) |
| 15:09.59 | [dmp] | but the site you'd made? its perl code print'ing html-code? |
| 15:10.13 | david_v | cough :) |
| 15:10.33 | david_v | it was one big hack, ok ;) |
| 15:10.57 | [dmp] | :) |
| 15:11.24 | [dmp] | i want to do a mail-administration-interface for my mailserver, as im getting tired of using the tables directly. |
| 15:11.26 | david_v | the script uses two files where it's used, though, for header and footer |
| 15:11.30 | david_v | and the rest of the site is PHP |
| 15:11.44 | [dmp] | so i figured that this could be a good first-try at it |
| 15:11.48 | david_v | i was thinking of rewriting the CGI script into PHP so i could fully integrate everything... but no, it will be too much work |
| 15:11.49 | [dmp] | ah |
| 15:12.06 | david_v | do you know any reasonable way of including a Perl script within a PHP script? |
| 15:12.12 | david_v | the output from the Perl script, even |
| 15:13.47 | [dmp] | perhaps this can help you: http://dk.php.net/manual/en/function.virtual.php |
| 15:14.16 | [dmp] | "It is useful for including CGI scripts or .shtml files, or anything else that you would parse through Apache" |
| 15:14.18 | [dmp] | :) |
| 15:14.59 | [dmp] | that requires you to have php as a module, not as cgi. |
| 15:15.18 | [dmp] | but if you're using php as cgi, you're pretty weird :) |
| 15:15.23 | david_v | i'm not sure how they set it up on my webhost |
| 15:15.35 | [dmp] | they normally compile it as module |
| 15:15.59 | [dmp] | i've actually never seen a host with php as cgi-only. |
| 15:16.03 | david_v | heh |
| 15:16.09 | david_v | thanks, i will give this a try |
| 15:16.20 | [dmp] | some provide php as cgi, as an alternative (from shellscripts etc) |
| 15:16.23 | [dmp] | *for |
| 15:16.25 | [dmp] | no problem |
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| 15:41.06 | [dmp] | oh well, bye bye internet :-) |
| 15:43.49 | david_v | bye :) |
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| 16:48.12 | TimRiker | there should be no SETNUM, just ADDs |
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| 17:04.12 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): there is no bzflist: |
| 17:08.45 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): there is no SETNUM |
| 17:10.53 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): need to update everything on ADD |
| 17:13.59 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/misc (bzfquery.pl): bzfquery talks 1908 now |
| 17:15.54 | learner | going back in time? |
| 17:16.29 | TimRiker | I'd say. ;-) |
| 17:16.33 | learner | "bzfquery puts on his knickers and jollops around the field" |
| 17:16.56 | TimRiker | so I'll work on getting the php version of the script up... |
| 17:16.58 | Tupone | learner: hi |
| 17:17.43 | learner | hiya tupone |
| 17:17.51 | Tupone | back again |
| 17:18.04 | TimRiker | I'm still catching up on email etc from my trip this week, and the show I'm working on has opening night tonight, so things are a bit busy here. |
| 17:18.36 | learner | show? |
| 17:19.08 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): Explain and ?resolve? stuck on base BUG |
| 17:19.45 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): there is no <br> in text/plain |
| 17:20.44 | Tupone | learner: SQLite still not work :( |
| 17:20.51 | learner | i know :( |
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| 17:21.39 | Tupone | learner: I think we should forget about that :) |
| 17:22.01 | learner | I have one or two more things to try before I give up :) |
| 17:22.11 | learner | I'm pretty sure pear is broken.. |
| 17:22.20 | learner | I think I just need to compile and install manually |
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| 17:22.57 | Tupone | the old auto team patch ? delaying |
| 17:23.09 | learner | hmm? |
| 17:23.39 | Tupone | server side. Have you done something? If .. I remove from sf |
| 17:23.56 | learner | no, not yet.. don't remove it.. I need it :) |
| 17:24.28 | Tupone | I changed the TODO. Needs to change the topic? |
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| 17:29.23 | TimRiker | topic? |
| 17:29.56 | Tupone | topic off the channel .. to say test test test |
| 17:30.00 | TimRiker | learner: church group has a play. I'm the lead tech. lights, sound, etc. |
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| 17:32.51 | Tupone | TimRiker: the bzflist:// IMHO is the only one that do no redirect request. http:// is for indirect access to list server. ? |
| 17:34.00 | Tupone | in the future there will be no more redirection, but until we remove the old stuff, we need it |
| 17:36.16 | Tupone | TimRiker: it's easy to redirect http://db.bzflag.or/db to http://bz.brlcad.org/bzfls.php ? if that is possible, I can go to code cleaning |
| 17:38.55 | TimRiker | Tupone: was, yes. should not be anymore. |
| 17:39.04 | TimRiker | so remove the old stuff. |
| 17:39.20 | Tupone | and list server will be available soon? |
| 17:39.28 | TimRiker | the perl version is available now. |
| 17:39.47 | TimRiker | I'm fixing the missing updates now... |
| 17:40.54 | learner | i believe the php and perl versions are equally complete at this point |
| 17:41.00 | Tupone | my bzfs and bzflag code is based on bzfls.php. Are you following that? or I need to look at the .pl script? |
| 17:41.15 | learner | the php one is presently connected up to a mysql database for storage on my box (nice) |
| 17:41.25 | learner | via tupone, of course ;) |
| 17:41.44 | Tupone | learner: tanks ;) |
| 17:43.36 | TimRiker | the perl version is connected up to sqlite on my server. |
| 17:43.59 | TimRiker | I'll try out the php one soon, but that's a slightly larger effort that just fixing the perl version. |
| 17:44.33 | Tupone | so there is no SETNUM? |
| 17:44.48 | Tupone | and ADD will always recheck the connection! |
| 17:47.18 | Tupone | Why there is the id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY in the servers table. It used to give me problems, and it is not used! |
| 17:48.08 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): update fields |
| 17:48.54 | TimRiker | ADD should not recheck the connection if the server is already in the list. I just added a comment about that. |
| 17:49.08 | TimRiker | yeah, could make nameport the primary key. |
| 17:50.03 | Tupone | OK. If we found problem on that, can we fix and/or can we restart the server? |
| 17:50.21 | Tupone | or ask you :) |
| 17:55.05 | Tupone | I forget the path or is currently inaccessible! Was it http://db.bzflag.org/db/ ? |
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| 17:56.13 | learner | hi jolly! ;) |
| 17:56.36 | TimRiker | Tupone: yeah. I'm making the field changes at the moment, so it might fail from time to time. |
| 17:57.50 | TimRiker | update is failing at the moment... working on it. ADD/REMOVE works but ADD when exists is broken. |
| 17:58.24 | jolly | hey learner :) |
| 17:59.00 | Tupone | I'll try to make few fixes to remove indirect and force -http. |
| 17:59.36 | Tupone | The I'll change the SETNUM. In the meantime I can try with brlcad one. |
| 18:00.16 | Tupone | s/The/Then/ |
| 18:03.03 | TimRiker | I've not looked hard at the brlcad one to see if the protocol it correct. |
| 18:03.27 | learner | it should be identical in all respects to the php, afaik (bugs too :) |
| 18:03.33 | learner | s/php/perl/ |
| 18:03.37 | Tupone | apart the SETNUM |
| 18:04.28 | TimRiker | have you killed reds,greens,etc from the mysql db? |
| 18:04.34 | Tupone | yeah |
| 18:04.47 | Tupone | not used :) |
| 18:05.00 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): field updates |
| 18:14.46 | david_v | ~d |
| 18:15.29 | Tupone | There is a specific reason not to have an indirectness? If not, I can avoid a lot of code hacking! |
| 18:21.49 | TimRiker | indirectness where? |
| 18:23.11 | Tupone | the list of list server, I mean! |
| 18:23.43 | Tupone | I think it will be useful to have backup of list server |
| 18:23.57 | Tupone | all code is there |
| 18:24.25 | Tupone | however, I'm working to remove, trying to change less |
| 18:40.35 | TimRiker | do you need to leave space for a \0 in a varchar? |
| 18:41.16 | TimRiker | there will likely be more than one list server, yes. but it will be by DNS, not a text file with more entries. |
| 18:41.44 | TimRiker | leave the array, remove the parsing of a http: text file of servers, change bzflist: over to heep. |
| 18:41.46 | TimRiker | er http |
| 18:43.27 | Tupone | 1st question: not sure. other: I'm committing the client. Next thing to do is choose a default. I left the old (wrong) |
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| 18:45.02 | CIA | 03bzflag * 12web/ (list-server.txt): brlcad |
| 18:45.37 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (3 files): |
| 18:45.38 | CIA | client only uses new bzfls. -http has gone early. |
| 18:45.38 | CIA | Give list server with (e.g.) -list http://bz.brlcad.org/bzfls.php |
| 18:45.49 | CIA | 03bzflag * 12web/ (list-server.txt): back to list.bzflag.org |
| 18:45.55 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || forums http://bzbb.bzflag.org || beta builds http://bzflag.dragon.org/builds || http://students.cs.byu.edu/~cs470ta/labs || ban exceptions /mode #BZFlag +e nick!*user@*.dip.t-dialin.net || main list server is back |
| 18:47.41 | Quol | do I have to restart my servers again to re-register with the list server? |
| 18:48.14 | TimRiker | yes or they will do it next time they are empty. |
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| 18:48.20 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 18:49.05 | learner | I'll leave mine up for the rest of the day just in case some servers don't empty out for a while |
| 18:49.25 | learner | or should it matter.. hrm |
| 18:49.38 | learner | shouldn't matter.. |
| 18:50.15 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
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| 18:50.29 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 18:51.16 | Quol | all of mine are restarted... |
| 18:51.28 | Quol | ~bzflist |
| 18:51.32 | learner | shut my bzfls down |
| 18:53.55 | Quol | why is it that when people are on my servers and I start playing they leave? |
| 18:54.04 | Quol | do i smell learner? |
| 18:54.14 | Quol | rather - my tank smell? |
| 18:54.16 | Quol | :) |
| 18:54.28 | learner | yea, I haven't showered :) |
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| 19:02.34 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 19:06.03 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): fixes, should work now |
| 19:06.25 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 19:07.41 | TimRiker | bzfls.php in cvs needs updating. is that the version in use? http://db.bzflag.org/db/ should work fine now. |
| 19:08.21 | bryjen | ~nslookup list.bzflag.org |
| 19:08.23 | Tupone | that is the version in use |
| 19:08.58 | bryjen | hmm |
| 19:09.07 | Tupone | TimRiker: can you write which problem it has? So I fix them |
| 19:09.08 | TimRiker | bryjen: hmm? |
| 19:09.18 | bryjen | i'm still getting 12.237.229.200 for list |
| 19:14.56 | TimRiker | Tupone: have to run for a while... reds, etc fields still exist I've not looked at other bits yet. have to run so I likely won't till tomorrow. test with the perl version and see if there are any issues. |
| 19:15.12 | TimRiker | bryjen: hmm. old dns servers. ugh... |
| 19:15.14 | Tupone | OK! |
| 19:15.35 | TimRiker | bryjen: what about timriker.dyndns.org ? |
| 19:15.46 | TimRiker | ~nslookup timriker.dyndns.org |
| 19:16.04 | bryjen | dns propagation issue somewhere. |
| 19:16.24 | bryjen | timriker.dyndns.org = 24.1.99.18 |
| 19:16.48 | CIA | 03timriker * 12web/ (list-server.txt): use alternate name for broken dns servers |
| 19:16.58 | TimRiker | k. converted to the dyndns.org till I can look into it further. |
| 19:17.07 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (3 files): |
| 19:17.08 | CIA | bzfs only uses new bzfls -http gone, SETNUM in the way to go |
| 19:17.08 | CIA | should use with -publiclist http://bz.brlcad.org/bzfls.php |
| 19:17.23 | Tupone | TimRiker: I have left the original SQLite implementation on bzfls.php . I have fixed only the mysql side (I did to handle both by switch) |
| 19:17.29 | TimRiker | k. |
| 19:17.38 | TimRiker | I'll look at it as soon as I can. |
| 19:17.42 | TimRiker | gotta run... |
| 19:17.47 | Tupone | bye |
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| 19:22.20 | Tupone | learnerCGI: Hi |
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| 19:23.48 | learnerCGI | testing... |
| 19:23.50 | learnerCGI | :) |
| 19:23.57 | Tupone | :) work! |
| 19:23.59 | learnerCGI | howdy tupone |
| 19:24.05 | learnerCGI | yea, but not from some browsers :( |
| 19:24.13 | learnerCGI | this is IE :( |
| 19:24.17 | JBDiGriz | it looked like another bot had joined us. |
| 19:24.33 | Tupone | do not work from firebird? |
| 19:24.39 | learnerCGI | dunno |
| 19:24.41 | learnerCGI | try it :) |
| 19:24.45 | Tupone | mozilla |
| 19:24.46 | learnerCGI | http://brlcad.org/irc |
| 19:25.00 | learnerCGI | er, still have to fix that |
| 19:25.11 | learnerCGI | http://brlcad.org/irc/irc.cgi |
| 19:25.19 | learnerCGI | eventually it'll be the default |
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| 19:25.49 | learnerCGI | heh |
| 19:26.02 | c3po | learner: good! Thats mozilla |
| 19:26.07 | learnerCGI | coo |
| 19:26.22 | c3po | free software is cool |
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| 19:26.55 | JBDiGriz | still loading on safari, it doesn't look like it's happy |
| 19:27.19 | learnerCGI | yea, jb.. |
| 19:27.21 | learnerCGI | same problem here |
| 19:27.33 | JBDiGriz | time to give up |
| 19:27.35 | webirc198 | nice |
| 19:28.32 | learnerCGI | if it gets abused, then I'll password protect it |
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| 19:28.47 | Tupone | good! |
| 19:28.54 | learnerCGI | or block the connections etc |
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| 19:31.40 | learner | testing |
| 19:32.01 | learner | *sigh* |
| 19:32.06 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): SETNUM is now handled as ADD |
| 19:32.23 | Tupone | who is webirc449 ? is you learner? |
| 19:32.52 | learner | yes |
| 19:33.01 | learner | trying to get safari working |
| 19:34.48 | learner | there.. http://brlcad.org/irc/ is working |
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| 19:38.17 | learner | moo |
| 19:38.24 | cow | moo |
| 19:38.31 | Bagheera | mooooooooo |
| 19:38.31 | doughecka | pretty fast |
| 19:38.50 | doughecka | bleh, cant join any other channels? :) |
| 19:38.56 | learner | :) |
| 19:39.21 | cow | hah |
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| 19:39.37 | doughecka | itneresting |
| 19:40.45 | Tupone | learner: could you regenerate your servers to point to http://db.bzflag.org/db/ |
| 19:40.59 | Tupone | the old bzfls has gone |
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| 19:42.16 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:42.21 | lime | scary |
| 19:42.27 | learner | indeed |
| 19:42.48 | lime | quite an abuse of http :P |
| 19:43.26 | Tupone | this is for some unfortunate people that only have http at work |
| 19:43.38 | learner | at quick glane, it looks like it opens up a streaming session between the brower and perl running on the server |
| 19:43.40 | *** part/#bzflag lime (www@chr160dhcp1509.chrchv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:43.55 | scanline | learner: yeah, but for IRC that's sick :) |
| 19:43.57 | learner | e.g. a web page that never completes |
| 19:44.02 | learner | heh, yea |
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| 19:47.11 | learner | cool.. ctcp userinfo will report the real ip |
| 19:52.25 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/include (Protocol.h): Default list server is now http://db.bzflag.org/db/ |
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| 19:54.04 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (TODO): new bzfls done! |
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| 19:56.58 | *** topic/#bzflag by Tupone -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || forums http://bzbb.bzflag.org || beta builds http://bzflag.dragon.org/builds || http://students.cs.byu.edu/~cs470ta/labs || ban exceptions /mode #BZFlag +e nick!*user@*.dip.t-dialin.net || main list server is back || brand-new list server for 1.9 is on |
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| 20:03.10 | Tupone | hi sussudio |
| 20:12.01 | fhffhqvb | neither of the listservers seem to be working anymore |
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| 20:13.06 | brlcad | much better.. |
| 20:13.16 | brlcad | less cpu usage using the C compiled version |
| 20:14.07 | learner | This is a 2test. |
| 20:14.26 | brlcad | cool.. |
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| 20:37.27 | Hornet | ~d |
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| 21:00.23 | Hornet | ~d |
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| 21:03.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
| 21:06.20 | calico | ~d |
| 21:22.49 | Hornet | ~d |
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| 21:34.20 | learner | yes |
| 21:37.39 | [dmp] | yes? |
| 21:37.43 | learner | no |
| 21:37.49 | david_v | maybe so |
| 21:37.53 | learner | perhaps |
| 21:37.54 | [dmp] | ah, just had a Noooooooo-experience |
| 21:37.58 | learner | indeed |
| 21:38.00 | captain_proton | widgeywoo |
| 21:38.48 | david_v | does anyone here have any tips on setting up ibot? doesn't work so well here... only a bit of it works... and the code seems very unclean and hacky. 1.1.0 wouldn't even start |
| 21:39.07 | david_v | that's my experience of it anyway |
| 21:39.21 | [dmp] | i had alot of problems too. i got it running, but thats it. |
| 21:39.27 | david_v | yeah :( |
| 21:39.32 | [dmp] | tim recommended that i should use cvs instead |
| 21:39.39 | david_v | well, i just tried cvs |
| 21:39.43 | david_v | and the setup script wouldn't even work |
| 21:39.43 | [dmp] | oh |
| 21:39.51 | david_v | had to do a manual setup |
| 21:39.55 | [dmp] | well, dont ask me. I cant install linux, it seems |
| 21:40.02 | david_v | eh? why not? |
| 21:40.47 | [dmp] | Some odd network problems. both eth0 and eth1 had the same drivers as before, but fo rsome reason i couldnt use contact anything |
| 21:41.31 | david_v | hmmm |
| 21:41.33 | [dmp] | had some transmission timeout messages too |
| 21:41.46 | [dmp] | tried to recompile the kernel without too much firewall/networking stuff but then |
| 21:41.48 | david_v | probably an easy fix. what distro was it? |
| 21:42.03 | david_v | well, the simpler solution would be to disable the firewall |
| 21:42.18 | [dmp] | when booting it writes that it cant open some logfile (read only).. and it loops endlessly. |
| 21:42.23 | [dmp] | there was not firewall setup at the time |
| 21:42.27 | [dmp] | nothing, it was still plain |
| 21:42.43 | [dmp] | except that i'd compile the kernel with raid and some other stuff too |
| 21:42.54 | david_v | hmmmm |
| 21:43.14 | [dmp] | and as most of debian was downloaded from net, i figured that soemthing in the kernel was giving me the problems. |
| 21:43.49 | [dmp] | So, right now, im using the old disk. Trying to figure out, if i should try again or not :) |
| 21:43.49 | david_v | well yes if you have network problems it's most likely kernel related |
| 21:44.13 | david_v | hmm |
| 21:44.37 | david_v | unfortunately i've never worked with raid, but it could be that which gave the readonly-problem |
| 21:44.40 | [dmp] | its really annoying, because i cant google for help, when network isnt working :) |
| 21:44.46 | david_v | heh true |
| 21:44.49 | [dmp] | it wasnt setup at all |
| 21:44.59 | [dmp] | just compiled the raid-thingy into the kernel |
| 21:45.12 | [dmp] | raid was the next step, but i had to download some stuff... and .. well, i couldnt |
| 21:45.15 | david_v | yeah but you could have missed some option |
| 21:45.30 | david_v | you didn't have a backup kernel? |
| 21:45.32 | [dmp] | in the kernel? |
| 21:45.35 | david_v | yep |
| 21:45.40 | [dmp] | no :) |
| 21:45.43 | david_v | hmmm :) |
| 21:45.49 | [dmp] | hmm |
| 21:45.59 | david_v | i have a bunch of kernel backups, a Knoppix rescue disks, and a few backed up kernels on CD-R as well :) |
| 21:46.06 | david_v | *rescue disk |
| 21:46.09 | david_v | *disc :) |
| 21:46.12 | [dmp] | i use debain tools, i'll bet it makes something for me, automatically. |
| 21:46.55 | david_v | last time i used Debian i compiled the kernel manually, so i don't know |
| 21:47.14 | david_v | there's no practical difference between doing it manually or automatically |
| 21:47.29 | david_v | just a little less work the other way :) |
| 21:47.50 | [dmp] | No, the result should be the same.. |
| 21:47.51 | [dmp] | hmm |
| 21:47.54 | [dmp] | i hate linux now |
| 21:47.57 | david_v | anyway, if you can download Knoppix |
| 21:47.58 | [dmp] | or my linux-skills. |
| 21:48.11 | david_v | it's really worth it, will run directly from the CD |
| 21:48.19 | david_v | and you should get network and all that running |
| 21:48.23 | [dmp] | even if i get it running again, i dont have any idea what to look for |
| 21:48.33 | david_v | hmm |
| 21:53.01 | learner | Tim: *ping* |
| 21:53.25 | [dmp] | btw: knoppix is a no-go. there is no cd-rom drive :) |
| 21:53.30 | david_v | [dmp]: ideally, it's just about making a new kernel and rebooting, and it should be fixed |
| 21:53.33 | david_v | heh k |
| 21:53.44 | david_v | hmmmm |
| 21:53.53 | david_v | then that complicates things a bit |
| 21:55.43 | [dmp] | yep |
| 21:55.56 | david_v | [dmp]: http://www.toms.net/rb/ - this will actually work, but it needs some geekiness |
| 21:56.04 | david_v | if you are interested, i could give it a try |
| 21:56.14 | david_v | there's a telnetd on the floppy image :) |
| 21:56.55 | david_v | but i have to admit i am not as happy as if it were sshd... not sure if there are floppy images for that too |
| 21:57.02 | david_v | or you could put sshd on a separate floppy... heh |
| 21:58.11 | [dmp] | gonna check out the "tomsrtbt" |
| 21:58.40 | [dmp] | "most gnu on one disk" :) |
| 21:58.49 | david_v | :) |
| 21:59.12 | david_v | it's rather cool imo |
| 21:59.35 | david_v | although if i had the choice i would of course boot Knoppix. GUI and all :) |
| 22:00.00 | [dmp] | well... :) |
| 22:00.15 | [dmp] | given the choice, it would work by now :) |
| 22:00.19 | david_v | you can probably hack up the Knoppix CD on a few hundred floppies :) |
| 22:02.00 | david_v | weird, it was just a side note :) |
| 22:02.39 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 22:03.09 | [dmp] | but.. what can i do.. i boot on floppy.. and mount my harddisk.. but then what? |
| 22:04.21 | david_v | that's the geeky part... hehe |
| 22:04.28 | david_v | there's a program called "chroot" |
| 22:04.49 | david_v | so you can with a bit of patience setup your system like you would have booted into Debian |
| 22:07.09 | david_v | :) |
| 22:07.36 | david_v | basically, mount some suitable partition with a /mnt dir in it, mount everything there... |
| 22:07.43 | david_v | then chroot /mnt /bin/bash should work |
| 22:11.15 | [dmp] | .. which is basically what crash-rescue says :) |
| 22:11.41 | david_v | :) |
| 22:12.23 | [dmp] | im gonna try again. thanks for the input |
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| 23:42.56 | JBDiGriz | None of my freebsd machines have a display on them at this point. |
| 23:43.09 | learner | need one to install, though .. :( |
| 23:43.33 | JBDiGriz | That's only temporary. :) |
| 23:43.45 | learner | yea.. I still miss it already though :) |
| 23:44.16 | JBDiGriz | I think you just answered the gf question asked previously. :) |
| 23:45.13 | learner | the ladies of my life are mostly tolerant of my geek lifestyle |
| 23:47.19 | david_v | night |
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| 23:47.27 | learner | g'night david |
| 23:47.44 | JBDiGriz | g'night chet |
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| 23:52.27 | learner | i swear the temperatura just went up a couple degrees already |
| 23:52.51 | JBDiGriz | Those 486 boxen don't put out power like the new ones. |