| 00:17.28 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (9 files in 4 dirs): type -> endurance, desc -> type |
| 00:26.38 | Tupone | TimRiker: I found something about ctf. Are you here? |
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| 00:33.38 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-48.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 00:33.46 | Carnage | hi everyone :) |
| 00:34.02 | jolly | hey Carnage |
| 00:34.39 | Carnage | just beat team usa :) |
| 00:34.53 | jolly | ah who played? |
| 00:35.00 | Carnage | me tc, dm and bb |
| 00:36.05 | jolly | ok i know you and i know bb. whos tc and dm? |
| 00:36.46 | Carnage | dead meat and CCz_Cataphract |
| 00:36.49 | jolly | ah |
| 00:36.59 | jolly | nice job |
| 00:37.11 | Carnage | ty |
| 00:37.28 | Carnage | just need alot more matches against them now |
| 00:38.00 | jolly | heh, sorry but i have to cheer for usa :) |
| 00:38.48 | jolly | you are team canada right? |
| 00:42.16 | Carnage | yep |
| 00:42.51 | Carnage | there r 4 places for the finals and only 4 teams |
| 00:42.52 | jolly | well i cheer for north america over europe, heh |
| 00:43.03 | jolly | lol |
| 00:43.08 | jolly | germany in yet? |
| 00:43.23 | Carnage | but if we had bzg u guys would be demolished by canada |
| 00:43.28 | Carnage | nope |
| 00:43.35 | jolly | shes good |
| 00:43.37 | Carnage | heres the site |
| 00:43.38 | Carnage | http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/ist_armies/ |
| 00:43.43 | jolly | but lot of good americans :) |
| 00:43.50 | Patlabor221 | hmm, I wonder if I should use these ranks on BZBB, http://p24.bakadigital.com/p24bb/images/ranks.gif |
| 00:44.30 | Carnage | but u would lose if it was me and bzg in the finals |
| 00:44.45 | jolly | you can't say that :p |
| 00:45.12 | Carnage | ok sry:( but we r a good combination |
| 00:45.22 | jolly | true :) |
| 00:45.45 | jolly | it would be tough |
| 00:46.12 | jolly | but i dunno, if capn, bamf, mb, or other people like them played... |
| 00:46.18 | jolly | it could be close :) |
| 00:46.40 | Carnage | capn is good but not as good as i rember |
| 00:46.50 | jolly | he doesn't play as much |
| 00:47.05 | Carnage | hes been for the last few days |
| 00:47.12 | Carnage | and he join vbz |
| 00:47.41 | jolly | yeah i saw :) |
| 00:47.53 | jolly | thats cool. vbz can start playing again |
| 00:49.48 | Carnage | finally |
| 00:50.00 | Carnage | thought they gotscared or something |
| 00:50.02 | jolly | lol |
| 00:50.13 | jolly | they are never on at the same times |
| 00:50.23 | Carnage | i never seen enough taf members to have a match anymore |
| 00:51.15 | jolly | yeah, not too many teams seem to be playing these days |
| 00:51.25 | jolly | how many active teams are there now? |
| 00:51.37 | jolly | maybe 4 or something? |
| 00:52.11 | Carnage | the moles are now |
| 00:52.20 | Carnage | nnow that taf is gone |
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| 00:52.59 | jolly | yeah, thats nice to see :) |
| 00:53.09 | Bagheera | away dinner |
| 00:56.04 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): ctf, 1 problem gone: team flag can be captured again |
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| 02:17.39 | MrApathyCream | wow lots of changes about nothing |
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| 02:24.17 | MrApathyCream | problems cniV? |
| 02:28.37 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (10 files in 7 dirs): port 5154, flag fixes |
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| 02:28.49 | TimRiker | cniV: better now? |
| 02:30.09 | MrApathyCream | 'parrently not! :) |
| 02:41.46 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 02:42.00 | bryjen | ~bzfquery alive.hashmark.net:5155 |
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| 02:42.18 | bryjen | Yesterday is cheating. |
| 02:42.54 | bryjen | anyone know how to get in touch with hashmark's admin? |
| 02:46.25 | MrApathyCream | nope |
| 02:51.52 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker, Are team flags supposed to have an endurance of FlagNormal? |
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| 02:56.27 | TimRiker | hmm... don't know. |
| 02:56.35 | TimRiker | not gotten to that one yet... |
| 02:56.58 | TimRiker | should be FlagRequired but is that a different field? |
| 02:57.12 | TimRiker | ie: required is on the flag, endurance is on the type. |
| 02:58.14 | TimRiker | bad flags now go away... commiting. |
| 02:58.52 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): bad flags go away, come again another day |
| 02:59.14 | MrApathyCream | currently they always disappear, putting in check for team flag |
| 03:00.48 | TimRiker | ahh... Normal should not disapear. only unstable. |
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| 03:01.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *!*@*.dip.t-dialin.net *!*edelstei*@* *!*@68.111.116.228] by brunner.freenode.net |
| 03:01.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *cell*!*@* *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net *gorb*!*@*] by brunner.freenode.net |
| 03:01.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *sussudio*!*@*] by brunner.freenode.net |
| 03:02.17 | MrApathyCream | well, normals reposition after n drops, but not team flags |
| 03:02.27 | MrApathyCream | i thinks its working correctly now |
| 03:02.30 | MrApathyCream | (pending checkin) |
| 03:04.32 | MrApathyCream | arg, merge conflict |
| 03:06.27 | MrApathyCream | ok, checking in |
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| 03:06.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *cell*!*@* *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net *gorb*!*@*] by brunner.freenode.net |
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| 03:07.30 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): Team flags fly in air always, unless building conflict |
| 03:10.46 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker, i forget... team flags dropped over pyrs go to the center? that's what's happening now |
| 03:18.21 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (2 files): The Horde fixes various flag problems |
| 03:19.53 | TimRiker | they go to the "safe place" and the safe place is always the center at present. |
| 03:20.57 | MrApathyCream | ok, or to base if building at center |
| 03:21.03 | MrApathyCream | ok, it's working like it used to then |
| 03:28.32 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: ... changing your fix... |
| 03:28.44 | bryjen | Horde? Hurd? |
| 03:30.03 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): flags should behave now |
| 03:31.27 | MrApathyCream | bryjen, horde, throng of people |
| 03:31.49 | bryjen | ~dict horde |
| 03:32.20 | bryjen | ibot: hurd ? |
| 03:32.22 | | hmm... hurd is a bastard of magnificent proportions |
| 03:32.34 | bryjen | oh really... |
| 03:33.02 | bryjen | ibot: no, hurd is http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html |
| 03:33.03 | | okay, bryjen |
| 03:33.25 | bryjen | or maybe that's |
| 03:33.29 | bryjen | ibot: gnu hurd |
| 03:33.30 | | rumour has it, gnu hurd is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. or http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html |
| 03:34.04 | TimRiker | ~horde |
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| 03:34.39 | bryjen | isn't "to horde" to gather greedily? |
| 03:34.48 | JBDiGriz | wow, learner's an op. We're all in trouble now. ;) |
| 03:35.10 | bryjen | eh, that's hoard. n/m |
| 03:35.22 | TimRiker | ~horde is PHP application framework http://www.horde.org/horde/ used for the popular IMP web email |
| 03:35.24 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 03:35.28 | JBDiGriz | ~seen patlabor221 |
| 03:35.29 | | patlabor221 <~jeffm@adsl-64-172-197-103.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 51m 39s ago, saying: 'hmm, I wonder if I should use these ranks on BZBB, http://p24.bakadigital.com/p24bb/images/ranks.gif'. |
| 03:36.08 | JBDiGriz | I just had a request for a 1.9.6 XP client on the update site. It seems some people are actually paying attention to the next release. |
| 03:36.41 | JBDiGriz | Is the tree in a good state for tagging and distributing? |
| 03:37.53 | bryjen | hmm |
| 03:37.55 | MrApathyCream | few bugs just fixed |
| 03:37.59 | JBDiGriz | Hmm, apparently learner has been redoing the editor directives again. |
| 03:38.00 | bryjen | ~tag JBDiGriz |
| 03:38.09 | MrApathyCream | yes, yes he has |
| 03:39.16 | JBDiGriz | bryjen, you're it ;) |
| 03:40.43 | JBDiGriz | My son would like a tag bzflag. Basically one person is it, and he has to shoot someone else who becomes it. It would encourage a lot more dodging. |
| 03:41.03 | MrApathyCream | like...... rabbit? |
| 03:41.14 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): /reset * |
| 03:41.15 | TimRiker | 2 player rabbit would be that. |
| 03:41.23 | MrApathyCream | or perhaps anti-rabbit |
| 03:41.25 | JBDiGriz | Except that the foxes wouldn't be shooting back. |
| 03:41.27 | TimRiker | multiple players its not an "it" it's the winner. |
| 03:41.30 | MrApathyCream | you DON'T want to be rabbit |
| 03:42.24 | JBDiGriz | It would encourage a bit more strategy in these ffa frag everything that moves sites. ;) |
| 03:42.39 | bryjen | 10 shot hosefests |
| 03:42.56 | MrApathyCream | actually for 1.12, i think rabbit scoring should be time based. not kill based |
| 03:44.06 | JBDiGriz | ~seen Nidhoggr |
| 03:44.07 | | nidhoggr is currently on #bzflag (1d 12h 53m 7s). Has said a total of 31 messages. Is idling for 12h 36m |
| 03:44.52 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.04 | MrApathyCream | JBDiGriz, you could always simulate that by setting shotSpeed to 0 |
| 03:45.12 | MrApathyCream | thru, /set _shotSpeed 0 |
| 03:45.17 | JBDiGriz | I'm going to check the current mac build. |
| 03:45.31 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, well maybe not 0 but a small number |
| 03:45.37 | MrApathyCream | you prbably kill yourself with 0 |
| 03:46.53 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): callsign |
| 03:47.01 | TimRiker | xmission is up to date. some testing? |
| 03:47.31 | MrApathyCream | k |
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| 04:00.12 | fhffhqvb | anyone with admin on hashmark here by any chance? |
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| 04:07.15 | TimRiker | ok, so what's the status with bots? |
| 04:07.25 | MrApathyCream | relatively ok i think |
| 04:07.34 | TimRiker | I hear otto, roger, etc. |
| 04:07.36 | MrApathyCream | they don't drive thru buildings anymore which was the big thing |
| 04:07.43 | TimRiker | can you pick one? or what? |
| 04:07.54 | TimRiker | or just pet names... |
| 04:07.55 | MrApathyCream | oh, roger and otto are the same (just different names) |
| 04:08.10 | TimRiker | just refer to the single built in bot, yes? |
| 04:08.24 | MrApathyCream | they refer to autopilot thru '9' key |
| 04:08.48 | TimRiker | different than -solo x ? |
| 04:08.52 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 04:08.56 | MrApathyCream | they take over the main player |
| 04:09.04 | TimRiker | "they" ? |
| 04:09.06 | MrApathyCream | so they can grab flags, and act more 'human' |
| 04:09.08 | MrApathyCream | it |
| 04:09.10 | *** part/#bzflag fhffhqvb (fhff@c5144878d.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 04:09.25 | TimRiker | but there is only one, yes? |
| 04:09.34 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 04:09.48 | MrApathyCream | so autopilot plus any number of old -solo bots |
| 04:09.58 | TimRiker | so when you "-solo n" you still get the old brain dead bots? |
| 04:10.03 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 04:10.11 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 04:10.22 | TimRiker | the old bots are better too, now. |
| 04:10.28 | MrApathyCream | yes somewhat |
| 04:10.35 | MrApathyCream | still can't jump, or pick flags |
| 04:10.37 | TimRiker | they don't selffill as much and they don't get stuck. |
| 04:10.43 | MrApathyCream | but better at chasing |
| 04:10.52 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 04:11.14 | TimRiker | is otto/roger using the same region code the solo bots use? |
| 04:11.30 | MrApathyCream | no, is region ignurt |
| 04:11.50 | TimRiker | hmm. need to unify those someday. |
| 04:12.03 | MrApathyCream | it just drives around and jumps over buildings that get in its way if it can, otherwise tries to drive around |
| 04:12.14 | MrApathyCream | well hopefully it will all be new |
| 04:12.44 | MrApathyCream | but roger kicks bots pretty handily usually around 50 - 5 |
| 04:13.05 | captain_proton | the region stuff is kind of a broken algorithm anyhoo |
| 04:13.07 | MrApathyCream | roger also knows how to avoid shots |
| 04:13.18 | MrApathyCream | (besides jumping :) |
| 04:13.39 | MrApathyCream | i should have taught him ctf :) |
| 04:14.04 | TimRiker | BZDB->iterate(resetAllCallback ? |
| 04:14.42 | MrApathyCream | so you can do /reset * |
| 04:14.54 | MrApathyCream | as opposed to just /reset _tankSpeed |
| 04:15.36 | TimRiker | ah. me was not reading clearly. |
| 04:15.47 | TimRiker | is countdown etc in bzdb yet? |
| 04:16.00 | MrApathyCream | countdown,.. i don't think so checking... |
| 04:16.19 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 04:18.11 | MrApathyCream | most clo's are not in bzdb |
| 04:19.02 | MrApathyCream | would be nice to be able to change the flag population on the fly, alas, maybe 1.12 |
| 04:20.53 | MrApathyCream | welp, time to feed the horsies, be back in 30mins |
| 04:21.19 | TimRiker | I'm thinking that many BZDB entries should be vars on BZDB. ie: BZDB->_tankRadius instead of an eval. |
| 04:21.45 | TimRiker | don't have a real feel for how much time is spent it eval() though to want to commit to that uglyness. |
| 04:24.23 | JBDiGriz | I'm getting ready to tag the tree with v1_9_6_Beta. Are there any objections? |
| 04:39.53 | *** join/#bzflag Spiffy (Owner@ilslvn48.one-eleven.net) |
| 04:40.07 | Spiffy | Hey all. :-) |
| 04:44.52 | Spiff | And IRC is quiet/dead once again. Blech. |
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| 04:45.29 | SGI | hi |
| 04:45.29 | MrApathyCream | Tim there are real variables for the really nasty access ones |
| 04:45.32 | MrApathyCream | BZDBCache |
| 04:45.45 | SGI | ~seen dtremenak |
| 04:45.45 | | dtremenak <~DTRemenak@host-224-246.dialup.innercite.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 2h 1m 9s ago, saying: 'that's better than the old "Site down for maintenance. Please return later"'. |
| 04:45.47 | MrApathyCream | the rest are less than 300access/second |
| 04:46.10 | *** join/#bzflag pigeon (~pigeon@203.206.217.82) |
| 04:46.10 | MrApathyCream | I was going to put more in BZDBCache, but Chestal said he was going to design a var class that automanaged itself so i stopped |
| 04:46.16 | MrApathyCream | Prolly makes sense |
| 04:46.22 | MrApathyCream | (but isn't done) |
| 04:46.52 | Spiff | Hey SGI. :) |
| 04:47.40 | MrApathyCream | JBDiGriz, no objections here |
| 04:47.40 | pigeon | hello all |
| 04:47.52 | MrApathyCream | lo piggy |
| 04:48.40 | pigeon | hehe, playing with bzflag code a bit... |
| 04:49.32 | Spiff | Uh oh. ;) |
| 04:49.56 | SGI | how tell me how |
| 04:50.01 | SGI | hi Spiff |
| 04:50.11 | SGI | Spiffero |
| 04:50.30 | Spiff | I got so bored that I downloaded X-Chat to my aunt's PC... LoL. |
| 04:50.36 | pigeon | weird... i'm getting those bot to jump to dodge bullets, now sometimes when it jumps and it fires in the air, it reckons it got hit. Quite funny ;) |
| 04:50.49 | Spiff | I wanna go home to my nice cable internet though.. I'm not cut out for this 56k junk. |
| 04:51.00 | SGI | I downloaded bz on my mother in law pc |
| 04:51.23 | SGI | but the graphic card is suck/crap |
| 04:51.50 | SGI | 56mb |
| 04:51.51 | Spiff | Kinda like the one in this PC and mine at home then, SGI. Intel 810 chipsets.. ick. |
| 04:52.33 | Spiff | 3mbps at home.... 42k here... blech. |
| 04:52.36 | SGI | let me install this programm |
| 04:52.54 | SGI | try to test your speed |
| 04:53.02 | SGI | at home |
| 04:53.33 | Spiff | At home.. running the LinkLine test.. I get 3-3.5mbps down.. 80-120k up. |
| 04:54.02 | SGI | cool |
| 04:54.31 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: not so here. I've seen over 10,000 access/second on some. |
| 04:54.36 | Spiff | Hmm.. since when is learner an admin? ;) |
| 04:54.58 | TimRiker | Spiff: cell was back causing grief. |
| 04:55.12 | Spiff | Ahh.. not surprising. |
| 04:55.15 | SGI | Spiff Spiff |
| 04:55.26 | MrApathyCream | wow |
| 04:55.28 | Spiff | What ever happened to just banning the whole ISP and white listing the "good guys?" |
| 04:55.42 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Spiff] by ChanServ |
| 04:55.50 | TimRiker | feel better? |
| 04:55.52 | MrApathyCream | well, all the vars are std::map cached |
| 04:56.01 | Spiff | Umm.. not really.. LoL. But thanks. :) |
| 04:56.05 | MrApathyCream | but i can add the bad ones to BZDBCache if you like |
| 04:56.08 | Spiff | I was just jokin' about learner and stuff. |
| 04:56.10 | MrApathyCream | which ones were 10000? |
| 04:56.26 | TimRiker | something to do with flag requests. I forget which. |
| 04:56.39 | TimRiker | might have been tankwidth or something. |
| 04:57.03 | TimRiker | might have only been caused by broken network code and not hit in normal states. |
| 04:57.18 | TimRiker | let me try again now that udp seems to be working. ;-) |
| 04:58.23 | MrApathyCream | i assume you mean on the client? |
| 04:58.37 | JBDiGriz | Way too late to object, it's tagged built and tested on the macintosh. |
| 04:58.42 | Spiff | So... would anyone care to fill me in on exactly why cell hates the BZ community so much? |
| 05:00.10 | SGI | because he/she hate Patlabor221 too |
| 05:00.40 | SGI | forgot...Spiff too :o) |
| 05:01.11 | Spiff | Hmm... I wonder why he would hate me. I don't think we've ever even spoken to eachother. |
| 05:02.12 | SGI | j/k |
| 05:02.26 | SGI | wof |
| 05:02.30 | SGI | wos |
| 05:04.07 | MrApathyCream | hmm _flagRadius is bad |
| 05:08.20 | MrApathyCream | note to self: test bzdb when flags are on, next time |
| 05:08.57 | pigeon | hmm is there a reason why getId() checking is not really working? |
| 05:09.40 | MrApathyCream | pigeon? |
| 05:10.10 | pigeon | Hmm I'm trying to do comparison, getCallSign is showing the same string, but getId somehow failed. |
| 05:10.47 | MrApathyCream | your looping over curMaxPlayers and calling getId()? |
| 05:10.57 | pigeon | yes... |
| 05:11.15 | pigeon | a for loop looping player[i] |
| 05:11.23 | MrApathyCream | well, it's possible that the player doesn't exist |
| 05:11.25 | pigeon | And a robot object |
| 05:11.30 | pigeon | Hmm. |
| 05:11.44 | pigeon | I ended up using strcmp for getCallSign and it's doing what I want... but just weird. |
| 05:13.36 | MrApathyCream | well the id should be the index, anyway |
| 05:13.54 | pigeon | hmm |
| 05:16.47 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (6 files in 4 dirs): add _flagRadius to BZDBCache access > 1000K/sec |
| 05:17.11 | pigeon | Hmm... I should use something like getPlayerByIndex? |
| 05:17.25 | pigeon | hmm... no... not really. |
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| 05:24.52 | MrApathyCream | Braseal! |
| 05:28.01 | Spiff | Spiffy's off to bed. |
| 05:28.05 | Spiff | Have a good night all. |
| 05:28.12 | Spiff | C-ya later. :-) |
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| 05:43.05 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 05:47.20 | MrApathyCream | iconify Patlabor221 |
| 05:47.29 | MrApathyCream | ibot, iconify Patlabor221 |
| 05:47.32 | | ACTION slap's a compatible dib on Patlabor221's head |
| 05:48.35 | Patlabor221 | I only do ddbs |
| 05:49.23 | MrApathyCream | replace_icon: error: icon file "..\..\..\src\bzflag\bzflag.ico" has no 32x32x16 icon -- failing! |
| 05:49.41 | Patlabor221 | what version of nsis are you using? |
| 05:50.19 | Patlabor221 | the problem is in CVS |
| 05:50.27 | Patlabor221 | the file is horked there |
| 05:50.47 | Patlabor221 | proably was added text the first time |
| 05:50.51 | Patlabor221 | I'll have to fix it at work |
| 05:51.03 | Patlabor221 | since that is the only place with a good icon |
| 05:52.46 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 05:53.21 | Patlabor221 | I want to move the file anway |
| 05:53.25 | Patlabor221 | so good time to do it |
| 05:54.34 | Patlabor221 | can someone help me test something? |
| 05:54.38 | Patlabor221 | web page wize |
| 05:54.43 | MrApathyCream | wassa |
| 05:54.53 | Patlabor221 | just need somone to try and register on http://p24.bakadigital.com/p24bb/ |
| 05:55.41 | Patlabor221 | as I go change out of these baby puke stained clothes |
| 05:56.22 | MrApathyCream | acount created |
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| 05:57.13 | MrApathyCream | and now activated |
| 05:57.29 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221 has kids? |
| 05:57.38 | Patlabor221 | I personaly do not no |
| 05:57.47 | Patlabor221 | but my good friend Chris does |
| 05:57.53 | TimRiker | new udp code on it's way... |
| 05:57.54 | Patlabor221 | and I was over there this evening |
| 05:58.26 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker, w00t |
| 05:58.28 | MrApathyCream | workin? |
| 05:58.39 | Patlabor221 | yay, reg worked, thanks mac |
| 05:58.52 | Patlabor221 | what does this Udp code change? flag handaling? |
| 05:58.55 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
| 05:58.55 | CIA | track udp in/out separately |
| 05:58.56 | CIA | reuse client tcp port instead of 17200 |
| 05:59.39 | TimRiker | seems to me. playerlist now shows "udp" for players that can send to server and "udp+" for ones that can get udp from server as well. |
| 05:59.55 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221, nat fixes i think |
| 06:00.01 | Patlabor221 | keen |
| 06:00.03 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: just negotiation fixes. |
| 06:00.10 | Patlabor221 | nats are very popular these days |
| 06:00.59 | TimRiker | not very useful though. too slow. |
| 06:01.27 | Patlabor221 | yeah, http wasn't designed for speed |
| 06:02.06 | TimRiker | I can't think of a situation where udp network trouble could cause folks to think others are cheating with this new code. |
| 06:02.23 | TimRiker | it will either work or not. it should not ever "seem" to work. |
| 06:03.06 | TimRiker | I support a network that get's the initial request but then starts dropping udp packets left and right will cause grief. |
| 06:03.29 | TimRiker | on the old code, the request/confirm was all send tcp. (ugh). |
| 06:03.48 | Patlabor221 | so now it will work pure UDP? |
| 06:03.55 | TimRiker | no. |
| 06:03.57 | MrApathyCream | so thru http, does it just convert 3 bytes to 4 bytes on 'posts'? |
| 06:04.16 | TimRiker | now it should not have broken udp clients. |
| 06:04.21 | TimRiker | huh? |
| 06:04.47 | MrApathyCream | don't you need to ascii-ize the outbound traffic? |
| 06:04.47 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: you mean how I do it? I use transconnect and LD_PRELOAD the .so |
| 06:05.11 | TimRiker | no. I use http "CONNECT" that ssl proxies support. |
| 06:05.24 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 06:05.44 | TimRiker | that's what transconnect does. I've not added code for proxies into bzflag. |
| 06:06.06 | TimRiker | the list server stuff should work, but actual game play would still suck. |
| 06:07.07 | MrApathyCream | BTW, _flagRadius was the bad boy, moved to cache |
| 06:08.08 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221, how goes the bz qa department at work? |
| 06:08.59 | Patlabor221 | I can't play at work, you know that |
| 06:09.08 | MrApathyCream | ;) |
| 06:09.13 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: why not? want transconnect? ;-) |
| 06:09.18 | Patlabor221 | SGI tests at his work |
| 06:09.31 | Patlabor221 | no, not cus of techincal reasons :) |
| 06:09.45 | TimRiker | anyone/everyone test udp with me on xmission? |
| 06:09.46 | Patlabor221 | I'm not a VP like you |
| 06:09.50 | TimRiker | heh |
| 06:10.06 | Patlabor221 | ohh I would not get fired |
| 06:10.18 | Patlabor221 | it would take a LOT for me to get fired |
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| 06:19.18 | MrApathyCream | wow no thats fun, vpn? to work, and http to server |
| 06:19.24 | MrApathyCream | s/no/now |
| 06:19.27 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): remove client udp setting |
| 06:19.56 | TimRiker | yeah. vpn over cable modem to office and back out through http connect proxy. |
| 06:20.10 | MrApathyCream | pretty impressive |
| 06:20.45 | TimRiker | not nearly the same durring office hours. ;-) |
| 06:20.47 | SGI | Sorry Patlabor221 I was checking some |
| 06:21.25 | Patlabor221 | sorry for what? |
| 06:22.08 | SGI | what you want ...you need something |
| 06:22.31 | SGI | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.35 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 06:22.40 | Patlabor221 | that I did |
| 06:22.51 | Patlabor221 | didn't need anthing, was just a comment |
| 06:22.57 | SGI | :o) |
| 06:26.41 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (hix.bzw): lower inverted pyr |
| 06:27.36 | JBDiGriz | hi pat, how are we getting distributions to dragon? |
| 06:28.57 | Patlabor221 | ftp |
| 06:29.05 | Patlabor221 | like we did last time |
| 06:29.49 | TimRiker | I'm fairly happy with the udp code now. should be better than 1.7. let's nail the test it, and nail the other bugs and get this puppy out the door. ;-) |
| 06:30.18 | cniV | is it working with the new bzfls.pl yet? |
| 06:35.00 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): new bzfls |
| 06:35.07 | TimRiker | cniV: not yet, no. |
| 06:35.37 | TimRiker | cniV: you saw I put the script in cvs, and setup sample links on http://db.bzflag.org/ yes? |
| 06:36.21 | TimRiker | add/remove/list all seem to work. |
| 06:38.19 | cniV | ah cool |
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| 06:39.30 | TimRiker | nite all. |
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| 06:46.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *!*@*.dip.t-dialin.net *!*edelstei*@* *!*@68.111.116.228] by brunner.freenode.net |
| 06:46.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *cell*!*@* *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net *gorb*!*@*] by brunner.freenode.net |
| 06:46.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *sussudio*!*@*] by brunner.freenode.net |
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| 10:36.20 | larsl | Cheater on hashmark, any admin here? |
| 10:36.33 | larsl | ~bzfquery alive.hashmark.net |
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| 10:36.57 | larsl | Chance is firing very fast shots although he is carrying ST. |
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| 11:34.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o larsl_away] by larsl_away |
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| 12:39.00 | david_v | hey dmp |
| 12:39.05 | [dmp] | hi |
| 12:39.23 | Chestal | hi |
| 12:39.28 | Chestal | dmp: ladder offline? |
| 12:40.04 | [dmp] | Chestal; yes |
| 12:40.18 | [dmp] | Changed IP, so dns are outdated right now |
| 12:40.26 | Chestal | ah, so it should fix itself |
| 12:40.28 | [dmp] | (changed ip and isp. actually) |
| 12:40.39 | [dmp] | Yes. Or I hope so :) |
| 12:40.59 | david_v | that's a dangerous thing. what if you do a typo and write to your isp saying you want to change isp :) |
| 12:41.39 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 12:42.19 | [dmp] | damn, reconfiguring two machine that dosnt repond to eachother, is hard to solve with only 1 monitor :) |
| 12:42.55 | [dmp] | Must of my services is down anyway |
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| 13:41.07 | Chestal | hi Quol, hi bzgirl |
| 13:41.18 | bzgirl | hi |
| 13:41.22 | Quol | hey chestal - how R you doing today? |
| 13:41.36 | Chestal | Quol: I'm sweating right now |
| 13:41.50 | Quol | Chestal: oh? why |
| 13:42.07 | Quol | Chestal: hot yout side? or just working alot? |
| 13:42.17 | Quol | yout = out |
| 13:42.25 | Chestal | it's a sunny day and I just arrived in my office which has a large window front |
| 13:42.42 | Chestal | and on weekends the elevators are offline |
| 13:43.56 | Quol | ahhh - that would do it - how many flights of stairs? |
| 13:43.56 | Chestal | to make things worse, after having arrived in my office I noticed that I forgot the bottle of water I brought along in my car, so I had to go fetch it |
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| 13:47.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by zelazny.freenode.net |
| 13:47.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *!*@*.dip.t-dialin.net *!*edelstei*@* *sussudio*!*@*] by calvino.freenode.net |
| 13:47.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *gorb*!*@* *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net *cell*!*@*] by calvino.freenode.net |
| 13:47.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@68.111.116.228] by calvino.freenode.net |
| 13:48.15 | Quol | welcome back everyone :) or is it you who should be welcoing chestal and I back? |
| 13:53.37 | larsl | Why did the server set all those bans again? Is it to synchronize the channel after a netsplit? |
| 13:59.04 | Chestal | yes, I don't know the exact algorithm though |
| 13:59.17 | Chestal | mayeb there is a master server or the bigger partition wins, no idea |
| 14:04.27 | Quol | see ya later boys and girls - have to get going.... |
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| 15:14.35 | brlcad | drat, I missed bzg |
| 15:23.17 | brlcad | hrm. that didn't come out quite right. |
| 15:26.01 | larsl | -ChanServ- brlcad!sean@chr160dhcp1509.chrchv01.md.comcast.net ACCESS [#BZFlag] LIST |
| 15:26.06 | larsl | What did that mean? |
| 15:28.33 | brlcad | ah, it just means I asked the chanserv who is listed as op |
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| 15:32.30 | brlcad | ~ibot |
| 15:32.31 | | somebody said ibot was a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
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| 15:45.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *!*@*.dip.t-dialin.net *gorb*!*@* *sussudio*!*@*] by jordan.freenode.net |
| 15:45.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net *cell*!*@* *!*@68.111.116.228] by jordan.freenode.net |
| 15:45.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*edelstei*@*] by jordan.freenode.net |
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| 16:11.33 | brlcad | Wow, bzflag gets about 300 downloads a day |
| 16:12.48 | brlcad | there were almost 40000 downloads after the slashdot review |
| 16:13.44 | bryjen | JB must've posted the mac build for 1.9.6 last night. making the mac the first released for once ;) |
| 16:13.56 | brlcad | and about 200000 sf page views |
| 16:14.18 | brlcad | bryjen: as it should be .. as it should be :) |
| 16:14.26 | larsl | Is 1.9.6 a test release? I thought that Tim just changed the version to keep it in sync with the protocol version. |
| 16:14.44 | brlcad | jb tagged and released 1.9.6 last night |
| 16:16.08 | larsl | v1_9_6 ? |
| 16:17.57 | brlcad | not sure.. if you cvs status some file, it should tell you |
| 16:18.21 | larsl | Looks like v1_9_6_Beta works. |
| 16:18.32 | larsl | Did someone fix the flag bugs, or are they still there? |
| 16:24.47 | bryjen | flag bugs? |
| 16:25.47 | larsl | Team flags can't be captured, team flags goes back to their base when dropped, bad flags don't reset when dropped, several team flags of the same color can appear. |
| 16:27.03 | bryjen | i think TimRiker and MAC were working on those last night. |
| 16:28.37 | larsl | They are removed from BUGS and TODO, so I suppose they have been fixed. =) |
| 16:33.38 | bryjen | xmission apears to be running recent code. and it does seem to have those problems |
| 16:34.04 | bryjen | hmm, bots don't die when their team flag is captured? |
| 16:34.23 | larsl | I haven't looked at it. |
| 16:34.47 | Chestal | bots are evil |
| 16:34.55 | Chestal | the way they are hooked in crys out for bugs |
| 16:40.51 | larsl | bryjen: I can't reproduce the flag bugs on xmission or on a local server. What problems did you see? |
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| 16:41.51 | CapN | howdy |
| 16:46.35 | bryjen | larsl: sorry. typo. it doesn't have them :( |
| 16:47.04 | larsl | Hehe, OK. =) |
| 16:47.48 | bryjen | the bots don't die on teamflag capture, but that's whole other issue |
| 16:48.08 | larsl | Yes, I noticed that too. |
| 16:57.34 | david_v | is anybody up for playing on 5156? |
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| 17:32.41 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/include (version.h): ws |
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| 17:37.17 | JBDiGriz | People will be asking for an update again. |
| 17:39.12 | Chestal | hmm, well, I found a bug with the team counts |
| 17:39.21 | Chestal | and found that we can actualyl merge twovariables |
| 17:39.28 | Chestal | and those are sent over the wire |
| 17:39.32 | Chestal | so that changes now |
| 17:39.58 | larsl | For bzfs <-> bzfls, or bzfs <-> bzflag? |
| 17:40.05 | Chestal | latter |
| 17:40.12 | JBDiGriz | So, I'll plan on tagging the sources again tonight once people have verified the changes and the servers have switched. |
| 17:40.23 | Chestal | yes, it should be verified |
| 17:40.28 | Chestal | not sure I got everythign right |
| 17:40.32 | Chestal | but I guess it's better than before |
| 17:40.56 | larsl | Chestal: Are you watching the final? =) |
| 17:42.37 | Chestal | just activated the Java applet in my browser |
| 17:42.46 | Chestal | looks liek Sweden is lucky :-) |
| 17:44.44 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (6 files in 4 dirs): team.size and team.activeSize were not in synch; decided that they can be merged because Observers have their own team now; needs testing; breaks protocol because the obsolete activeSize is no longer sent over the wire; also added utility function isColorTeam() tothe Team class |
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| 17:45.02 | SGI | hello |
| 17:45.59 | larsl | Are we bumping the version every time the protocol version changes? |
| 17:46.08 | SGI | there is a problem with CVS???? |
| 17:46.25 | larsl | SGI: Anonymous CVS hasn't worked properly for months. |
| 17:47.29 | SGI | yes but I was able to see something |
| 17:47.44 | SGI | now ...totally doesnt work |
| 17:47.56 | SGI | thsnks |
| 17:47.57 | larsl | I think that there are snapshots somewhere. |
| 17:48.03 | JBDiGriz | We have to bump the version when the protocol version changes. We didn't for 1.9.6, and several people weren't able to test. |
| 17:48.05 | SGI | thanks |
| 17:48.47 | larsl | JBDiGriz: They will only see the servers using the same network protocol. They should be able to test on them. |
| 17:49.05 | SGI | I saw on BZBB there is two type of maps one for 1.7 and another for 1.9 |
| 17:49.18 | larsl | SGI: There is also a source package from last night at http://bzflag.dragon.org/builds |
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| 17:50.01 | SGI | Im looking for the bzflag packeger |
| 17:50.05 | JBDiGriz | At least two of the servers are auto-update. I thought you and Tim updated fairly regularly as well. The old clients won't have a server to test with. |
| 17:50.28 | SGI | yeah ferrari chanpion |
| 17:50.31 | SGI | sorry |
| 17:50.33 | larsl | OK. |
| 17:50.47 | SGI | and Rossi too |
| 17:51.00 | larsl | gravitywaves.homelinux.net hasn't updated in a while though, it probably still has the flag bugs. |
| 17:51.28 | SGI | yes I got it "the last 1.9" |
| 17:51.48 | SGI | but 1.9 need a different type of map |
| 17:52.08 | Patlabor221 | 1.9 uses the same maps as 1.7 |
| 17:53.55 | SGI | Im asking because I saw "Koba" map on BZBB |
| 17:54.13 | SGI | A 1.9 compatible version....i think. "koba wrote" |
| 17:56.11 | SGI | and I loaded a map in the office last day and the pyramids are screwed |
| 17:56.26 | Patlabor221 | yeah he made some objects drive thru on the 1.9 |
| 17:56.30 | Patlabor221 | but both maps will work |
| 17:56.39 | Patlabor221 | just the 1.9 one uses new 1.9 features |
| 17:57.11 | Patlabor221 | you can't drive or shoot thru pyramids by default anymore |
| 17:58.32 | SGI | cool |
| 17:58.34 | SGI | thanks |
| 18:17.53 | SGI | bye bey |
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| 18:27.54 | Chestal | Network unreachable |
| 18:28.34 | Quol | hello again Chestal - how's it going |
| 18:29.01 | Chestal | cannot concentrate on the work I should be doing |
| 18:29.16 | Quol | lol - too much IRC? |
| 18:29.19 | Chestal | will have to improvise on the meeting with my superior tomorrow I guess |
| 18:29.45 | Quol | what are you supposed to be working on? |
| 18:30.02 | Chestal | actually, I am not really sure about that anymore |
| 18:30.33 | Quol | that makes it hard I guess |
| 18:30.44 | Chestal | I thought I was supposed to collect and structure some technical arguments for different platforms to do Grid Computing with for our applications |
| 18:30.58 | Quol | that could be the topic of conversation when you talk with your boss |
| 18:31.09 | Chestal | I wanted to mail that to boss 1+2 |
| 18:31.39 | Chestal | but on Friday boss 1 says he wants to meet with me on Monday; and he is the one who does not really understand the technical arguments anyway |
| 18:33.08 | Chestal | larsl: hmm, still 1-1 |
| 18:33.32 | Quol | you using Linux for the Grid Computing? or some other *BSD *NIX |
| 18:33.47 | Chestal | Linux, but it wouldn't really matter |
| 18:34.14 | Chestal | the term 'Grid' might sound a little too big actually :-) |
| 18:34.31 | Quol | how many PC's make up your "grid" |
| 18:35.39 | Chestal | if all would be running, about 40. But university will get a 256 node cluster by the end of the year and we plan that to integrate with the cluster of another university, but that won't happen soon |
| 18:36.16 | Quol | that's a good size though - not bad |
| 18:37.06 | Chestal | the 40 computers are not dedicated for our applications, they are workstations used by research assistants or students |
| 18:37.49 | Quol | I had a contract once with a biotech shop were we deployed a 200 node grid where they needed the processing power to analyze geenes and the differences the HIV drugs did to these geenes, to try and figure out the best medication for different poeple etc,, |
| 18:52.13 | JBDiGriz | brlcad and glasstowers are still on 1.9.6 which is interesting since brlcad was supposed to be auto-updating. |
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| 19:33.54 | JBDiGriz | Do we have any ops around? |
| 19:34.39 | JBDiGriz | TimRiker, you joined as I was typing. prodan is attempting to join the irc and is getting a message that he's banned. He's coming in from Germany. |
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| 19:47.59 | TimRiker | what's his nick? is he registered with nickserv? |
| 19:48.51 | TimRiker | cell has been spamming the channel so bad we had to ban t-dialin.net and make exceptions |
| 19:49.13 | TimRiker | --- prodan :No such nick/channel |
| 19:51.08 | *** mode/#bzflag [+e prodan!*prodan@*.dip.t-dialin.net] by TimRiker |
| 19:51.46 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || forums http://bzbb.bzflag.org || beta builds http://bzflag.dragon.org/builds || http://students.cs.byu.edu/~cs470ta/labs/PfieldsLab.html || ban exceptions /mode #BZFlag +e nick!*user@*.dip.t-dialin.net |
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| 19:52.10 | TimRiker | JBDiGriz: should be fixed now. |
| 19:52.35 | Chestal | how do you allow registered nicks in? |
| 20:18.24 | TimRiker | Chestal: don't. just affects the exception mask I put in. |
| 20:19.10 | TimRiker | irc needs a karma server. ;-) |
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| 20:23.46 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): text/plain |
| 20:23.53 | Chestal | TimRiker: well, then I am askign how the exception mask works |
| 20:27.24 | TimRiker | add nick!user@host and if the person joining matches, they get in. |
| 20:27.55 | TimRiker | not very secure, but it's all we have at the moment. could add a channel password etc, but then new users could not join either. |
| 20:28.11 | Chestal | hmm, and the list is secret? or how do I see it? |
| 20:28.18 | TimRiker | not a reliable ban method other than by ip/domain which effects everyone there. |
| 20:28.29 | TimRiker | not sure how to see it... |
| 20:28.45 | TimRiker | /mode #BZFlag +e |
| 20:28.52 | Chestal | there should be a way to allow soem registered nicks |
| 20:28.55 | TimRiker | looks like that works. |
| 20:29.32 | TimRiker | that's the nick part. ie: Chestal!*@* should allow tou in from anywhere. |
| 20:29.45 | Chestal | TimRiker: only when identified? |
| 20:29.53 | TimRiker | course freenode is not enforcing nicks... |
| 20:30.07 | TimRiker | nope. without identify would still work. |
| 20:30.10 | Chestal | hmm |
| 20:30.22 | Chestal | it should be possible to use the pwoer of nickserv |
| 20:30.25 | TimRiker | have not found a way to tie bans to identify. |
| 20:30.27 | Chestal | not sure if it is, but it should be |
| 20:31.40 | TimRiker | could patch ibot to do it. |
| 20:57.04 | larsl | Nidhoggr: Do you want us to remove old builds when we upload new versions? |
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| 21:00.42 | sn0w_m0nkey | need admin on alive.hashmark |
| 21:00.45 | sn0w_m0nkey | anyone? |
| 21:01.01 | sn0w_m0nkey | admin there? |
| 21:01.26 | larsl | Try irc.hashmark.net, channel #bzflag. |
| 21:01.28 | larsl | Might be someone there. |
| 21:01.37 | sn0w_m0nkey | tnx |
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| 22:11.05 | [dmp] | urgh, segfault |
| 22:24.06 | Patlabor221 | ~seen fiberchunks |
| 22:24.06 | | fiberchunks is currently on #bzflag (2d 7h 33m 6s) |
| 22:26.30 | Patlabor221 | hmm no idle time? |
| 22:26.41 | Patlabor221 | ~idle fiberchunks |
| 22:28.05 | [dmp] | [fiberchunks] idle 67:50:02, signon: Fri Oct 3 07:19:59 |
| 22:28.27 | Patlabor221 | yeah I see a whois gives me that |
| 22:28.50 | [dmp] | oh |
| 22:29.06 | Patlabor221 | bit long for being idle :) |
| 22:29.23 | [dmp] | Yeah. I wonder how it came to that :) |
| 22:29.46 | Patlabor221 | time since his last message I think |
| 22:30.58 | [dmp] | Or since he marked himself as away. Which i guess is more or less the same. |
| 22:31.20 | Patlabor221 | yeah one or the other |
| 22:47.07 | Patlabor221 | anyone know how I wold find what version of apachie I'm running? |
| 22:48.51 | [dmp] | tried: httpd -v ? |
| 22:49.32 | Patlabor221 | says it can't find httpd |
| 22:50.31 | Tupone | apache -v |
| 22:53.54 | Patlabor221 | naw that didn't work ether :( but I don't think for my question the phpbb people need to know that |
| 22:54.07 | Tupone | if does not work, or you got more than 1, try again with phpinfo |
| 22:54.20 | Patlabor221 | I just want to figure out how to do multiple rank sets in phpbb |
| 22:54.39 | [dmp] | "Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux)" :) |
| 22:54.46 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 22:54.48 | Patlabor221 | thanks :) |
| 22:54.52 | [dmp] | or so it says, when it gives you a 404 page :) |
| 22:54.55 | Patlabor221 | where did you check? |
| 22:55.15 | [dmp] | http://bzbb.bzflag.org/asfdasd |
| 22:55.24 | Patlabor221 | well that is not my server |
| 22:55.30 | Patlabor221 | but it seems I am running the same |
| 22:55.35 | [dmp] | really? |
| 22:55.35 | Patlabor221 | bzbb moved to Nidhoggr |
| 22:55.37 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:55.40 | [dmp] | ah |
| 22:55.51 | Tupone | You still got the phpinfo page? |
| 22:55.57 | Patlabor221 | but I get the same on a bakadigital thing |
| 22:56.01 | [dmp] | I have no idea how apache2 works |
| 22:56.03 | Patlabor221 | yeah Tupone I see it there too |
| 22:56.32 | Patlabor221 | I want to make it so that difrent groups have there own incrementing rank sets |
| 22:56.44 | Patlabor221 | so like server ops, devs, and players |
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| 23:01.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Spiff] by ChanServ |
| 23:01.39 | Spiff | Hi all. :-) |
| 23:02.23 | Spiff | OoOoO... *real* food! Brb. |
| 23:02.43 | Patlabor221 | sup |
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| 23:24.44 | Tupone | MrApathyCream: hi |
| 23:27.13 | MrApathyCream | howdy |
| 23:30.54 | Tupone | I'm trying to see if it's easy to apply same rule on position to -solo bot when restarting. |
| 23:31.23 | MrApathyCream | how do they pop in now? |
| 23:31.30 | Tupone | Just random |
| 23:31.36 | MrApathyCream | mmm |
| 23:32.00 | Tupone | so on a ctf game they start from anywhere, even after capturing flag |
| 23:32.26 | Tupone | Actually I see that they remain where they are (odd) |
| 23:32.34 | Tupone | s/are/was/ |
| 23:33.04 | Tupone | I'm thinking about bot score. |
| 23:33.09 | Tupone | also that |
| 23:33.37 | Tupone | We could eventually select on a server to not allow bot at all |
| 23:34.49 | Tupone | or we could treat bot as world weapon, they count only for decreasing your point, you gain only safety from destroying those |
| 23:35.00 | Tupone | All as an option |
| 23:35.32 | Tupone | follow? |
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| 23:38.38 | MrApathyCream | follow |
| 23:39.05 | JBDiGriz | pat, did you get your question about apache version answered? |
| 23:39.31 | Tupone | So we could have a game, 2 team one against the other, and bots killing both |
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| 23:40.06 | MrApathyCream | gotcha |
| 23:41.12 | Tupone | but I think we should have an option to select which team bot should join |
| 23:42.07 | Tupone | it can be (any, red, green, ... rebels) |
| 23:42.39 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 23:43.56 | pigeon | hi all... is someone working on making bots smarter? |
| 23:44.11 | MrApathyCream | when we redo the bot api, we can address all of this |
| 23:44.28 | Tupone | I saw an odd think, I don't know if it's my machine, but ... sometimes it lock for seconds |
| 23:44.30 | pigeon | Ah ok. |
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| 23:44.55 | Tupone | Have you experienced the same? |
| 23:45.07 | pigeon | I realized when I got the bot to jump and they will just go into buildings. |
| 23:45.38 | Tupone | pigeon: which version? |
| 23:46.00 | pigeon | 1.7g2 tarball |
| 23:46.24 | Tupone | bot on 1.7 are not really usable! |
| 23:46.31 | pigeon | hehe right |
| 23:46.33 | MrApathyCream | pigeon, tupone has improved the regular bots, and i've added autopilot, which is completely different |
| 23:46.43 | pigeon | sounds cool |
| 23:47.03 | pigeon | yeah, i was just playing with the code a bit on the weekend. |
| 23:47.32 | pigeon | so that will be in devel/cvs? |
| 23:47.44 | Tupone | against autopilot, unless you're really skilled, you die! |
| 23:48.32 | pigeon | hehehe |
| 23:49.09 | Tupone | We are talking about current version. And that is in CVS |
| 23:50.14 | Tupone | MrApathyCream: you experienced bzflag lock? or just me? |
| 23:50.24 | MrApathyCream | have n't had that yet |
| 23:53.22 | Tupone | pigeon: However, fighting against autopilot, is difficult in that you have to run 2 clients |
| 23:54.18 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 23:54.41 | pigeon | right |
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| 23:56.59 | pigeon | So I assume the old bot -solo stuff will be history eventually. |
| 23:57.39 | MrApathyCream | eventually |
| 23:58.02 | MrApathyCream | the plan is to create a separate bot api that can be run from the server, or separate headless client |
| 23:58.23 | MrApathyCream | so that different 'bot plans' can be developed easily |
| 23:58.37 | Tupone | now -solo is actually working, and is usable, but it should be taken as it is: for me is part of the world that shoot against you |
| 23:58.43 | sn0w_panther | ~d |
| 23:58.51 | Patlabor221 | mac, can we get the API the school made? |
| 23:58.57 | sn0w_panther | ~bzflist |
| 23:59.01 | Tupone | as idea, not as code |
