| 00:01.23 | *** join/#bzflag BaDiN (Paramount@213.13.251.13) |
| 00:01.26 | BaDiN | olá |
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| 00:05.44 | Legolas | hye spiff |
| 00:05.47 | Legolas | hey badin |
| 00:05.52 | Spiff | Yo. |
| 00:09.40 | Legolas | strong bad is hysterical! |
| 00:10.02 | BaDiN | hi spiff |
| 00:10.10 | Legolas | hey bzgirl |
| 00:10.13 | Legolas | didnt see yuo :) |
| 00:11.40 | Spiff | Hey BaDiN. :-) |
| 00:11.40 | bzgirl | hello lego :) |
| 00:12.00 | Spiff | I would be sad if I was Lego-less. ;) |
| 00:12.02 | bzgirl | hey Legolas, did you read the LOTR books? |
| 00:12.02 | Spiff | LoL |
| 00:12.08 | Legolas | yes |
| 00:12.10 | BaDiN | lol |
| 00:12.21 | BaDiN | i just saw the pirates of the carabeans, with orlando bloom (legolas) :) |
| 00:12.26 | Legolas | about 13 times |
| 00:12.27 | bzgirl | Legolas: please tell me that Legolas and the Dwarf are ok at the end |
| 00:12.34 | Spiff | That's a pretty good movie. |
| 00:12.35 | BaDiN | NO |
| 00:12.36 | Legolas | they are |
| 00:12.36 | BaDiN | NO |
| 00:12.39 | BaDiN | ARGH!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:12.42 | BaDiN | DON'T TELL ME THE END! |
| 00:12.45 | Spiff | You ruined it. ;) |
| 00:12.48 | Spiff | LoL |
| 00:12.52 | Legolas | gimli goes with legolas to the undying lands with him |
| 00:12.55 | BaDiN | where's the fun of that? |
| 00:12.59 | BaDiN | ok, im outta here lol |
| 00:13.01 | BaDiN | cya |
| 00:13.03 | bzgirl | heh |
| 00:13.14 | Legolas | hey.who playied in the TAf vs bips match? |
| 00:13.16 | Spiff | All of the main characters live happily ever after. :_) |
| 00:13.26 | Spiff | free and asdf vs Skipp and BaDiN. |
| 00:13.28 | bzgirl | ok good |
| 00:13.30 | Legolas | exept arwen :) |
| 00:13.35 | Legolas | really? |
| 00:13.39 | Legolas | they got killed |
| 00:13.52 | Spiff | Well yeah..... but only 'cause she never dies and has to un-live her 3,000 year life. LoL |
| 00:13.58 | Spiff | or ^ |
| 00:14.07 | Spiff | Yeah.. I know. Oh wellz. |
| 00:14.11 | Legolas | this sb email is hysterical! http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail81.html |
| 00:14.11 | bryjen | learner: the last line of LocalPlayer::explodeTank() seems to undo the GM lock when the shooter dies |
| 00:15.14 | Spiff | I'm really regretting the fact that I cut the artist name out of the title of all of my MP3's. :( |
| 00:15.28 | Spiff | I'm going to make a data CD of 'em.. but I want to categorize them. Arg! |
| 00:16.21 | Patlabor221 | you didn't set the ID3 tags? |
| 00:17.04 | Spiff | Well yeah. But I'm going to put 'em all in their own folders.. and that requires going into the mp3 and finding out which artist did it. |
| 00:17.12 | Spiff | It's a pain now.. but it's worth it in the end. |
| 00:17.15 | Legolas | off to play bz |
| 00:18.13 | Spiff | For example.. I have several versions of Ave Maria.. but there isn't really any distinction right now.. they're just in separate folders. |
| 00:18.58 | Spiff | bzgirl- you should read the books. :-) |
| 00:19.14 | Spiff | They're like 10x better than the movies actually (although I love the movies too). |
| 00:19.34 | bzgirl | spiff i started to years ago |
| 00:19.46 | Spiff | Got bored? |
| 00:20.03 | bzgirl | somewhat yes |
| 00:20.15 | bzgirl | short attention span :) |
| 00:20.19 | Spiff | You should try reading Silmarillion. ;) LoL |
| 00:20.31 | Spiff | It's like a Middle-Earth history book. :-) |
| 00:21.03 | Patlabor221 | that book is hard to read |
| 00:21.08 | Patlabor221 | it's writen like a bible |
| 00:21.15 | Patlabor221 | there are better summary books |
| 00:21.58 | fiberchunks | depends on how fast you read |
| 00:22.54 | fiberchunks | I read all three books in about 2 days (total 16 hours of reading probably) -- but I can't put books down when I start them |
| 00:23.02 | fiberchunks | unless the book really sucks |
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| 00:38.33 | Spiff | I'm pretty much the same, fiber. :-) |
| 00:38.44 | Spiff | It has to be a good book though.... something that really grabs my interest. |
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| 00:41.32 | Spiff | Dinner! |
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| 01:00.44 | Michaelh | woohoo saved by the ups :) |
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| 01:11.09 | Spiff | ~seen Gerbil |
| 01:11.10 | | gerbil <~d894f646@203.194.240.139> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 223d 4h 32m 17s ago, saying: 'please mail memoney'. |
| 01:11.32 | Spiff | Wow. |
| 01:14.03 | Michaelh | probably got some bad cheese |
| 01:15.37 | Spiff | Hehehe. Maybe his wheel came off of the stand and he couldn't stop rolling. :-| |
| 01:17.49 | Spiff | For 223 days.... that'd be one *tired* Gerbil. |
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| 01:58.36 | learner | aww. that was fun |
| 01:58.41 | learner | haven't played that long in ages |
| 01:58.57 | learner | 302 kills :D |
| 01:59.31 | bzgirl | how many flags? |
| 01:59.57 | learner | wasn't counting, but more than them for sure ;) |
| 02:00.27 | bzgirl | yes, ctf is about kills anyhow, we all know that :) |
| 02:01.37 | learner | of course.. yea .. er . |
| 02:01.50 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 02:01.57 | learner | it would be nice to get a report of playing statistics when you finish playing |
| 02:02.17 | Patlabor221 | that's what they do in UT CTF matches |
| 02:02.21 | learner | how long you played, how many flags, how many team switches, how many kill/deaths -- player shot ratios, etc |
| 02:02.39 | learner | yea, that's what made me think of it |
| 02:02.52 | Patlabor221 | BZ needs "unstopable!" |
| 02:03.10 | Michaelh | also cool quake-like music and wind sounds |
| 02:03.22 | Patlabor221 | "turret shot!" |
| 02:03.25 | learner | you mean 'god-mode' so you can slap players around? :) |
| 02:03.47 | learner | hehe, that's hilarious in counter-strike (for a while) |
| 02:03.54 | Michaelh | I always liked the wind sounds in quake...... |
| 02:04.13 | Spiff | Have any of you tried "Cube?" |
| 02:04.29 | Spiff | It's rather.... pathetic. :) The controls suck that is. |
| 02:04.30 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:04.40 | Patlabor221 | it's an engine demo more then a game |
| 02:05.50 | Spiff | No wonder it's no fun. :~) |
| 02:06.41 | Patlabor221 | should play some tribes |
| 02:06.46 | Patlabor221 | or tribes2 |
| 02:09.09 | Spiff | Looks fun. :) |
| 02:09.37 | Patlabor221 | tis |
| 02:10.03 | Patlabor221 | tho don't complain if you take a stormhammer to the mellon |
| 02:11.08 | Spiff | Ow. LoL |
| 02:11.10 | bzgirl | spiff how old is merry? |
| 02:14.32 | learner | aw shucks.. I leave and now BB, DM, and Itzo get on.. sheesh |
| 02:14.52 | learner | and huh .. bah!! |
| 02:16.10 | JBDiGriz | dm and huh, i think i'll go back and visit again |
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| 02:23.50 | Spiff | Hey.. sorry. Wasn't paying any attention to IRC. :-) |
| 02:24.03 | Spiff | I think she's 10.. but maybe she's 9. |
| 02:32.04 | Spiff | Oh.. stupid me. I just realized that she'd already left. Whoops. |
| 02:32.14 | Spiff | How do I leave memo's? |
| 02:32.27 | Patlabor221 | message memoserv |
| 02:33.18 | Spiff | Like "/msg memoserv bzgirl <mymessage>".. ? |
| 02:33.44 | Patlabor221 | ask it for help |
| 02:33.51 | Patlabor221 | it will tell you what to do |
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| 04:00.45 | Quol | hello all |
| 04:03.53 | learner | howdy again |
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| 04:27.07 | MrApathyCream | hey the length of tim is here again |
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| 04:34.07 | learner | woo hoo -- down to my last function on the poll voting |
| 04:34.28 | learner | but alas, that must wait for another day -- g'night |
| 04:34.57 | MrApathyCream | heh, l8r |
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| 05:04.19 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (Player.cxx): Keep Burrow from bombarding the network with MsgPlayerUpdates |
| 05:32.25 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Add DeadReckoning variables to BZDB -vars |
| 05:48.33 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen bzdoug, captain_proton, DB7654321, dheckaman, ElectricElf, fiberchunks, gonkulator, JBDGriz, mmu_man, MrCooper, Nidhoggr, olobed, s, scanline, snyke, trepan, |tim|? |
| 05:48.34 | | MrApathyCream: i haven't seen 'bzdoug, captain_proton, db7654321, dheckaman, electricelf, fiberchunks, gonkulator, jbdgriz, mmu_man, mrcooper, nidhoggr, olobed, s, scanline, snyke, trepan, |tim|' |
| 05:48.43 | MrApathyCream | yeh, either have i |
| 05:48.45 | gonkulator | yes MrApathyCream |
| 05:49.21 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 05:49.42 | MrApathyCream | room full of lurkers |
| 05:50.12 | gonkulator | MrApathyCream: I am not a lurker, I am a crook! |
| 05:51.39 | mmu_man | ibot lier ! |
| 05:51.40 | | mmu_man: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 05:51.42 | mmu_man | :D |
| 05:52.06 | mmu_man | bbl |
| 05:52.18 | MrApathyCream | you scieered him off |
| 05:53.59 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen_scanline? |
| 05:54.00 | | well, it is the start of a new week,..., i believe he is starting up a new project. |
| 05:54.07 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 05:54.54 | JBDiGriz | We have a Big Mac who's missing his cheese again. ;-) |
| 05:55.13 | MrApathyCream | who moved my cheese? |
| 05:55.36 | JBDiGriz | One of those lurking rats. |
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| 06:04.18 | MrApathyCream | ~dict lurker |
| 06:06.09 | gonkulator | -silently- |
| 06:13.23 | ElectricElf | MrApathyCream: Pfft, I spoke at least last week sometime :) |
| 06:14.01 | MrApathyCream | is dead |
| 06:21.49 | purple_cow | wheebie |
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| 06:52.53 | Ramstein | hmmmmm really quiet in here |
| 06:52.56 | Ramstein | hey all |
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| 08:22.06 | tea|tree_ | hi |
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| 10:56.30 | Luigi | mmm silent in here |
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| 12:41.47 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
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| 13:33.00 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
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| 14:35.40 | brlcad | where's a patlabor when you need one? |
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| 14:37.13 | Bagheera | ~seen quol |
| 14:37.13 | | quol <~quolsimo@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 10h 36m 28s ago, saying: 'hello all'. |
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| 15:47.41 | Nidhoggr | anyone know of an exploit for the server admin functions which allows people to get admin access by registering with a specific callsign and password? |
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| 15:52.37 | Nidhoggr | pat... we have a very serious problem. |
| 15:52.45 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 15:52.46 | Nidhoggr | exploit of the admin functions. |
| 15:52.50 | brlcad | it's a patlabor! |
| 15:52.56 | patlabor221 | splain |
| 15:53.20 | brlcad | hey you, question: what forum is being used on bzbb? |
| 15:53.24 | Nidhoggr | guy joins with callsign of _@_ |
| 15:53.32 | Nidhoggr | registers with a password of @ |
| 15:53.55 | patlabor221 | it's not supsoed to allow passwords of less then 3 characters |
| 15:53.55 | Nidhoggr | logs into server, and doesn't even /identify and can do all admin functions. |
| 15:54.12 | patlabor221 | let me look |
| 15:54.13 | brlcad | erp, that is a problem |
| 15:54.16 | Nidhoggr | well, he's not even using the password. |
| 15:54.37 | Nidhoggr | Player _@_ [9] has joined from 219.165.110.99:20697 on 16 |
| 15:54.43 | Nidhoggr | Player [0] accept() from 24.85.200.171:1172 on 18 |
| 15:54.43 | Nidhoggr | Player _@_ [9]: /kick slacker |
| 15:54.43 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 15:54.59 | Nidhoggr | Player _@_ [2]: /shutdownserver |
| 15:55.05 | Nidhoggr | and it's down. |
| 15:55.10 | Nidhoggr | no /identify. |
| 15:56.05 | brlcad | yep, register command is bogo -- doesn't check the password at all |
| 15:56.26 | patlabor221 | well it used to |
| 15:56.37 | patlabor221 | but how does it set the perms |
| 15:56.40 | brlcad | maybe setUserPassword does |
| 15:57.36 | brlcad | nope == just trims it to 32 chars |
| 15:57.38 | patlabor221 | damn they took out the check in get user info for non existing users too |
| 15:58.21 | brlcad | what doesn't make sense is what's letting him get admin without /identify |
| 15:58.28 | brlcad | or /password |
| 15:58.30 | patlabor221 | this is true |
| 15:58.46 | Nidhoggr | I'm a revision behind on the server... I'm updating now. |
| 15:58.50 | Nidhoggr | still... this is not good. |
| 15:58.59 | patlabor221 | it may not be a problem with the admin commands but with the "i've done the password bit" |
| 15:59.21 | Nidhoggr | his password is @ |
| 15:59.29 | Nidhoggr | I still have the plain text password version. |
| 15:59.37 | Nidhoggr | I'm updating, though. |
| 15:59.49 | patlabor221 | well I can't even read the code anymore |
| 15:59.54 | patlabor221 | it's now just a pile of crap |
| 16:00.05 | patlabor221 | looks like they took out all the security checks I put in. |
| 16:00.16 | Nidhoggr | which is probably why it's all screwed up. |
| 16:01.02 | Nidhoggr | once I get this compiled... someone want to test to see if they join with callsign @ if they can do admin stuff? |
| 16:02.19 | patlabor221 | wow at present, they even took out the code that strips the @ |
| 16:02.39 | Nidhoggr | I wonder if someone did that purposefully for this very exploit. |
| 16:03.13 | patlabor221 | do you have a "default" group in your groups.txt? |
| 16:03.43 | Nidhoggr | no. I was pretty sure I did though. |
| 16:04.00 | patlabor221 | you should NOT have one in there |
| 16:04.11 | patlabor221 | if you don't want to give them any special perms |
| 16:04.22 | Nidhoggr | ah, cool |
| 16:04.51 | patlabor221 | well 1.9 donsn't have any of the security checks, but I can't see how it would give them admin if they didn't identify |
| 16:05.07 | Nidhoggr | well, it certainly happened. |
| 16:05.17 | patlabor221 | I'm sure it did |
| 16:05.30 | patlabor221 | but there is no way to know exactly what part of the code failed |
| 16:05.40 | Nidhoggr | we can run strace on the old server binary and see if we can figure it out. |
| 16:05.45 | patlabor221 | there may have been otherthings done that overflowed a buffer |
| 16:06.54 | Nidhoggr | I'm going to take out the publick stuff... and try it locally. |
| 16:07.33 | patlabor221 | those DUMB DUMB BASTARDS |
| 16:09.17 | patlabor221 | "oh lets take out the verified check on perms" |
| 16:11.31 | Nidhoggr | I can't check it locally. |
| 16:12.39 | Nidhoggr | I can only log in via the text client. |
| 16:12.51 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 08v1_7 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): Added check to see if user is VERIFIED BEFORE you see if they have permisitions, like the code used to be. |
| 16:13.16 | patlabor221 | that should help too |
| 16:16.29 | patlabor221 | I still don't see how his password can be @ |
| 16:16.33 | patlabor221 | if (strlen(message) > 12) { |
| 16:16.38 | patlabor221 | } else { |
| 16:16.38 | patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.38 | patlabor221 | } |
| 16:16.55 | Nidhoggr | is that in the old code, or did you just add it? |
| 16:17.09 | patlabor221 | that's in both 1.7 and 1.9 |
| 16:17.20 | patlabor221 | I think he's blowing over the buffer some other way |
| 16:17.25 | Nidhoggr | how did he add a single character password, then? |
| 16:17.46 | patlabor221 | do you have the logs of what the server sent back to him when he registerd? |
| 16:17.52 | patlabor221 | did the registration work? |
| 16:18.08 | Nidhoggr | he's in the password and user file. |
| 16:18.11 | Nidhoggr | so it had to work. |
| 16:18.18 | Nidhoggr | I have a single -d debug for the logs. |
| 16:18.29 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (Permissions.cxx): Check to see if users have verified before you see if they have perms. |
| 16:18.38 | patlabor221 | well there could have been non printables |
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| 16:18.55 | Nidhoggr | true. |
| 16:18.57 | patlabor221 | can you send me the text file with his account info? |
| 16:19.12 | Nidhoggr | hang on... |
| 16:20.23 | bryjen | patlabor221: eep. is 1.7g2 broken, or are you looking at 1.9? |
| 16:21.19 | patlabor221 | I am lokking at both |
| 16:21.32 | patlabor221 | it seems to not check the verified state in ether |
| 16:21.46 | Nidhoggr | what email, jeff? |
| 16:21.54 | patlabor221 | jeffm@gibbscam.com |
| 16:22.03 | patlabor221 | that is why I just put that fix into both lines |
| 16:22.33 | Nidhoggr | sent |
| 16:23.14 | patlabor221 | do you have the database line with his info? |
| 16:23.19 | patlabor221 | from the password database? |
| 16:23.23 | brlcad | parseCommand has little/no argument handling for valid input and user flexibility -- that'll be changing soon enough |
| 16:23.25 | Nidhoggr | hang on some more... |
| 16:23.26 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:24.30 | Nidhoggr | there |
| 16:24.56 | patlabor221 | hmm that should not have gone thur |
| 16:25.28 | patlabor221 | well with that last code change the perm test will fail if he dosn't register |
| 16:25.31 | Nidhoggr | well, I'm removing his entry and banning his ip once I get the recompile done. I'll keep the old binary around in case. |
| 16:25.47 | patlabor221 | I think he's doing something else to blow over some buffers |
| 16:25.54 | Nidhoggr | could be. |
| 16:26.53 | patlabor221 | if he blew over tcpmsg or udpmsg he could set Admin |
| 16:28.14 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 08v1_7 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): Moved Admin in player struct to help against posible buffer over flow |
| 16:28.20 | patlabor221 | and that should help |
| 16:28.28 | patlabor221 | it's now the second item in the struct |
| 16:28.38 | patlabor221 | and you can't overflow the first one. |
| 16:29.01 | patlabor221 | so if he is doing that, it'll now make him an observer :) |
| 16:29.22 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:29.27 | Nidhoggr | let me update again. |
| 16:32.10 | Nidhoggr | cvs is sucking pretty bad today. |
| 16:33.58 | Nidhoggr | it's been a while for me... how playable is the 1.9 stuff, now? |
| 16:34.15 | patlabor221 | as playable as 1.7 |
| 16:34.30 | Nidhoggr | oh, cool. |
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| 16:34.48 | bryjen | justs needs playERS |
| 16:34.50 | Nidhoggr | any idea when it'll be released officially, etc? |
| 16:35.02 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 16:35.10 | patlabor221 | there is the man to ask |
| 16:35.15 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:35.16 | Nidhoggr | hi tim |
| 16:35.29 | Nidhoggr | any idea when 1.9 might become the release version? |
| 16:36.41 | Nidhoggr | sourceforge is slow. |
| 16:37.56 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): Move admin to be in the perms section of playerinfo, also could help posible buffer over flow exploit. |
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| 16:38.59 | TimRiker | Nidhoggr: see the top of the TODO file. Those things are release requirements. |
| 16:40.21 | Nidhoggr | heh... I suppose I should download the 1.9 stuff. :) |
| 16:42.57 | patlabor221 | damn I allways forget this, what is the command to set your password on linux? |
| 16:43.01 | patlabor221 | setpswd? |
| 16:43.09 | bryjen | passwd |
| 16:45.15 | TimRiker | Permissions.cxx:76: parse error before `if' |
| 16:46.03 | patlabor221 | wtf |
| 16:47.31 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (Permissions.cxx): doh! |
| 16:48.32 | patlabor221 | actualy I just missed the ; when I copied from 1.7 |
| 16:48.50 | Chestal | hi |
| 16:48.55 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:49.02 | Nidhoggr | hi chestal |
| 16:49.32 | Chestal | pat: @ is not really using an exploit. There's a bad bug in 1.7g2, group ids do not get reset for palyer slost when peopel rejoin |
| 16:49.33 | Nidhoggr | well, I wonder when we'll start seeing this same issue on other servers. |
| 16:49.46 | Chestal | it was fixed a long time ago, but after g2 release |
| 16:49.57 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 16:50.01 | Nidhoggr | so my update should fix |
| 16:50.23 | Chestal | so, whenever someone with admin rights /identifies, the player slot gets tainted and other players which get assigned the same slots later can inherit the rights |
| 16:50.29 | Chestal | ehm, no |
| 16:50.45 | Chestal | it is fixed in 1.9 |
| 16:51.05 | patlabor221 | so admin wasn't being set to false on a remove player? |
| 16:51.08 | Chestal | although 1.9 is not very well tested, but I am pretty sure this thing should work now |
| 16:51.20 | Nidhoggr | ack... so it's still broken. |
| 16:51.21 | Chestal | patlabor: no, it's not admin, it's the lsit of groups |
| 16:51.21 | Nidhoggr | :( |
| 16:51.47 | patlabor221 | well verified wasn't even being checked |
| 16:51.55 | Chestal | only thing in 1.7 you can do: not use the user/group based authentication or restart server more often |
| 16:52.15 | Chestal | I'm pretty sure 1.9 code was ok, but I didn't look at it for some time |
| 16:52.27 | Chestal | admin is for /password, isn't it? |
| 16:52.41 | Chestal | so it's not related to the new code anyway |
| 16:53.08 | patlabor221 | it's a simple fix |
| 16:53.17 | TimRiker | always always always compile and test before committing. |
| 16:53.19 | Chestal | patlabor: look at addplayer() or whatever it's called where the new player's slot gets initialized. 1.7 should be missing init of group permissions |
| 16:53.46 | Chestal | at least g2 was, not sure if I fixed if before we tagged 1.9 or after |
| 16:53.53 | patlabor221 | well see, somone changd it to not check the "verfied" flag |
| 16:53.56 | patlabor221 | and that is reset |
| 16:54.02 | Chestal | check where? |
| 16:54.03 | patlabor221 | so that's how it was using crap perms |
| 16:54.07 | Chestal | no |
| 16:54.08 | patlabor221 | in hasperms |
| 16:54.09 | Chestal | the groups |
| 16:54.19 | patlabor221 | the groups are part of the perms |
| 16:54.30 | patlabor221 | you don't check any perms, or groups untill they verify |
| 16:54.36 | patlabor221 | when they verify there groups are reset |
| 16:54.46 | patlabor221 | it wasn't checking the verify flag |
| 16:54.56 | patlabor221 | so it was using the last users perms and groups. |
| 16:55.00 | Chestal | I changed it so greoups are reset when player joins |
| 16:55.03 | Chestal | that makes sense IMHO |
| 16:55.34 | patlabor221 | yeah, but still should test to see if they even verified first |
| 16:55.36 | Chestal | maybe your original code had this additional verified check, then someone removed it |
| 16:55.42 | patlabor221 | it did |
| 16:55.43 | Chestal | but it's still messy to not reset the groups vector |
| 16:55.54 | patlabor221 | I am adding that now as well |
| 16:56.52 | Chestal | maybe it would be better to sart with a fresh palyer slot each time and not only try and set all of it's members to fresh values on join |
| 16:57.00 | Chestal | s/sart/start/ |
| 16:57.11 | patlabor221 | it has baffled me why it's a static aray |
| 16:57.19 | patlabor221 | and not a map or something |
| 16:57.32 | TimRiker | Player.cxx: In method `bool Player::isDeadReckoningWrong () const': |
| 16:57.32 | TimRiker | Player.cxx:462: warning: initialization to `const int' from `float' |
| 16:58.17 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 08v1_7 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): reset groups on add and remove just to be nice. |
| 16:58.26 | Chestal | Tim: eh? can you paste that line? |
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| 16:59.27 | Chestal | ah, a recent change, let me update |
| 17:00.09 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (.cvsignore): cvsignore bzadmin |
| 17:00.24 | Chestal | grmpf, more ghost commits |
| 17:01.00 | Chestal | do we know why the commits ml is borked? |
| 17:01.22 | patlabor221 | probably cus SF is borked |
| 17:01.48 | TimRiker | don't send private messages to robots <- why not? |
| 17:02.38 | Chestal | because we know that they won't talk back? |
| 17:02.45 | bryjen | "Robot, shoot TimRiker" :) |
| 17:02.45 | Nidhoggr | sourceforge has really been annoying me this morning. |
| 17:03.03 | Chestal | this makes it impossible fo rme to follow commits |
| 17:03.44 | TimRiker | bryjen: exactly. |
| 17:04.04 | bryjen | Eh? You want them to do that? |
| 17:04.08 | TimRiker | Chestal: that would be they don't today. not that they won't. |
| 17:04.22 | Chestal | TimRiker: well, tomorrow they'll hopefulyl go away in their current form |
| 17:04.28 | TimRiker | bryjen: yes if the player has "permissions" or whatever. |
| 17:04.39 | TimRiker | cooperative bots should be possible. |
| 17:04.51 | Chestal | once we redo all of this compeltely |
| 17:04.56 | Nidhoggr | is sourceforge always going to be problematic, or should we consider our own CVS server? |
| 17:05.00 | Chestal | but not this year I guess |
| 17:06.57 | Chestal | I guess I'll implement server-side auto team assignment later. ANy idea how it shoudl work user side? Add an 'auto' team setting? or make it so that server forces a team even when suer selects different? |
| 17:07.20 | brlcad | woa... people |
| 17:07.37 | patlabor221 | other games have a server option to "auto ballance" |
| 17:07.47 | patlabor221 | and they force people onto teams when they join |
| 17:08.04 | patlabor221 | so that at worst a team is off by 1 |
| 17:08.11 | Chestal | yes, that would be my idea |
| 17:08.20 | Chestal | but rogue is different, so when a player wants to be rogue, he gets rogue |
| 17:08.46 | Chestal | and I coudl imagien situations where soem palyers want to be in the same team, but it might well be that then this server should not use balancing at all |
| 17:09.31 | patlabor221 | well most other games also let you change teams mid game |
| 17:09.35 | patlabor221 | to get orginised |
| 17:10.14 | patlabor221 | so if you added that cabalility, then you could have the server do like a "team check" every min or so |
| 17:10.19 | Chestal | choosing a specific colour should be the exception for a player |
| 17:10.41 | Chestal | hmm, being forced to change team durign a game could be confusing IMHO |
| 17:10.41 | patlabor221 | so people could orginised in teams the want and then the server can fix them only if needed |
| 17:10.59 | patlabor221 | if you were ballanced, then you would not be forced |
| 17:11.14 | patlabor221 | again I would look at how some other games do it |
| 17:11.22 | Chestal | I dont know other games :-) |
| 17:11.25 | patlabor221 | no need to reinvent the wheel |
| 17:11.31 | patlabor221 | well perhaps its time to start looking |
| 17:11.59 | patlabor221 | at it's core BZ is a first person shooter, and they have all dealt with these problems. |
| 17:12.19 | Nidhoggr | I cnanged _@_'s passwd to something long and annoying. |
| 17:12.35 | Chestal | but I only intend to do a small change right now and I am asking what is people's opinion here about it |
| 17:12.37 | Nidhoggr | and banned his IP :) |
| 17:12.49 | patlabor221 | I don't think it can be done with a small change |
| 17:12.59 | patlabor221 | any small change would be detremental |
| 17:12.59 | Chestal | team assignment on join should be trivial now |
| 17:13.11 | Chestal | it's more a GUI problem than a logic problem |
| 17:13.12 | patlabor221 | but as you say, that would break up teams |
| 17:13.38 | Chestal | I coudl iamgine adding 'auto' to the team options |
| 17:13.38 | patlabor221 | or your just saying let the client pick based on how many are on each team at join time |
| 17:13.41 | patlabor221 | not a force |
| 17:13.51 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:13.55 | patlabor221 | that would work |
| 17:13.57 | Chestal | but I want it that this is the settings that all palyers use when they do not have a good reason to do so otherwise |
| 17:13.57 | Nidhoggr | you could set a server command line option and a /admin option to disable autoteam assignments |
| 17:14.29 | Nidhoggr | yeah.. that's a good idea, chestal. |
| 17:14.32 | patlabor221 | well on a soimple DM type server, teams are kinda silly, it becomes just a way to change your color. |
| 17:15.03 | Chestal | hmm, you can have teamplay there, it's only that most peopel do not |
| 17:15.10 | Chestal | (apart from not shooting tanks of the same color) |
| 17:15.10 | patlabor221 | yes you can |
| 17:15.16 | patlabor221 | but that's not base DM |
| 17:15.19 | patlabor221 | that's TeamDM |
| 17:15.24 | patlabor221 | BZ does not over a simpleDM |
| 17:15.29 | Chestal | bzflag only has TeamDM formally |
| 17:15.31 | patlabor221 | offer not over |
| 17:15.33 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:15.41 | Chestal | unless you only allow rogue |
| 17:15.42 | patlabor221 | but that's comonly not a popular mode of play |
| 17:16.12 | patlabor221 | a nice server option would be DM but basicly treat everyone as a rouge |
| 17:16.17 | Chestal | for my servers balancing would be most beneficial for CTF of course |
| 17:16.40 | Chestal | hmm, only to have different colours? |
| 17:17.15 | Chestal | I think that would be too confusing for bz |
| 17:18.10 | Chestal | hmm, is burrowed tank onyl rollable whily it has the flag or while undergound? Guess I should just look at the source :-) |
| 17:18.49 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (Player.cxx): fix float to int assignment warning |
| 17:19.34 | Chestal | looks like it is bound to the flag. IMHO it would be better to bind it to z < 0 |
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| 17:19.58 | patlabor221 | what happens if you get a burrow flag when you are not at Z0? |
| 17:20.02 | Chestal | too easy to drop the flag just in time now |
| 17:20.13 | Nidhoggr | thanks for fixing that hole, patlabor221 |
| 17:20.18 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 17:20.21 | Chestal | don't know, never grabbed it in top of a building |
| 17:20.22 | larsl | Hole? |
| 17:20.30 | patlabor221 | hole |
| 17:21.01 | Chestal | I'd assume that tank starts to burrow as soon as it hits ground |
| 17:21.09 | bryjen | it doesnt do anything if you grab BU on a building, |
| 17:21.16 | patlabor221 | one would thing |
| 17:21.29 | bryjen | you burrow once you touch the ground again |
| 17:21.36 | patlabor221 | but if the SR is tied to the flag, then you could be SRed still while on a building? |
| 17:21.59 | Chestal | I'd expect that to be possible right now |
| 17:22.17 | Chestal | so I propose changing getFlag()== burrow to z<0 |
| 17:22.17 | bryjen | you dont have to have the SR flag to kill BU. Anybody running a BU over kills him |
| 17:22.45 | Chestal | so, whenever you somehow managed to drive underground, you're rollable |
| 17:23.17 | bryjen | Not seen any underground cheats... |
| 17:24.36 | Chestal | I'll change it when there are no objections |
| 17:24.43 | Nidhoggr | grrr... I need to block ^Subject.*iso-8859-1.*$ from my mail server. |
| 17:24.47 | Chestal | should make it harder to just drop burrow to escape rolling |
| 17:25.16 | bryjen | Oooo. I didn't think about running into a BU tank thats on a box.... I see says the blind man. |
| 17:26.09 | Chestal | bryjen: my main concern was that righ tnow it migh tbe too easy to just drop the bu flag when someone comes too close |
| 17:26.30 | bryjen | ah |
| 17:26.34 | Chestal | bryjen: so it is easy to avoid getting rolled. When we use the < 0 check instead, you are still rollable after having droppe dhte flag, until you emerged all the way |
| 17:26.59 | patlabor221 | how bout have the flag, OR be under zero |
| 17:27.14 | bryjen | I think I tried that once. I didn't drop the flag soon enough. maybe with practice I could |
| 17:27.48 | bryjen | patlabor221: then if you've grab BU on a box, somebody can run you over and kill you right there |
| 17:28.23 | patlabor221 | that's how it is now |
| 17:28.29 | Chestal | seems to make sense to me: when you#re underground, you're rollable :-) |
| 17:28.38 | patlabor221 | if chestal changes it to just be neg Z then they won't be able to do that. |
| 17:28.55 | patlabor221 | I say make them sink 1/2 into the building :) |
| 17:28.56 | bryjen | true, but if you're not getting the benifit of the flag, why get the vulerability ? |
| 17:29.07 | bryjen | ~spell bulerable |
| 17:29.08 | | possible spellings for bulerable: tolerable bearable vulnerable billable pulverable numerable believable bailable blamable tolerably burnable |
| 17:29.15 | bryjen | ~spell vulerable |
| 17:29.15 | | possible spellings for vulerable: vulnerable vulnerably tolerable venerable pulverable valuable violable numerable |
| 17:29.33 | bryjen | vulNerability |
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| 17:29.43 | Chestal | I'm for: z < 0 -> rollable |
| 17:29.43 | patlabor221 | then if the box was thin enough you would fall thru :) |
| 17:30.00 | patlabor221 | that's just cus you hate jumping :) |
| 17:30.16 | bryjen | BU does nothing while you're on the box |
| 17:30.19 | Chestal | I actualyl like the mini jumps on my 1.9 server :-) |
| 17:31.11 | bryjen | Chestal just enjoys breaking the law of gravity |
| 17:31.18 | bryjen | well, changing it at least |
| 17:31.55 | bryjen | :) |
| 17:32.05 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): tanks with burrow on buldings are no longer rollable, but tanks who have no burrow and are still below grounds are now |
| 17:32.16 | patlabor221 | should lower the speed too, more friction with a heaver tank |
| 17:32.33 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): indentation |
| 17:32.40 | bryjen | inertia |
| 17:32.43 | Chestal | pat: already limited to 80% of normal speed |
| 17:32.44 | bryjen | ~spell inertia |
| 17:32.44 | | 'inertia' may be spelled correctly |
| 17:32.53 | patlabor221 | ahh cool |
| 17:32.58 | Chestal | and turns much slower |
| 17:33.09 | Chestal | and radar range is limited |
| 17:33.44 | bryjen | the radar limit is annoying |
| 17:34.06 | Chestal | you should be glad that radar is workign at all :-) |
| 17:34.22 | bryjen | guess it help to balance it out, so somebody can sneek up and roll you |
| 17:34.27 | Chestal | I guess it needs more playtestign to really see whether the power is well-balanced now |
| 17:35.42 | bryjen | I think it's good. Power needs to come at a noticable price |
| 17:36.23 | Chestal | well, there are a couple of good flags which have no bad side at all, for exaemple tiny, stealth, cloak, narrow, steamroller |
| 17:37.03 | bryjen | SR and CL can be dangerous to your teammates if they are nearby and don't notice you |
| 17:37.23 | patlabor221 | GM has a weakness? |
| 17:37.25 | larsl | And it can be harder to climb on some maps with N. |
| 17:37.29 | Chestal | pat: no rico |
| 17:37.37 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 17:37.40 | JBDiGriz | burrow seems to have no real up-side to it. In a 1 v 1 you get a slight chance if your opponent isn't paying attention. |
| 17:37.56 | patlabor221 | but on a no rico server it dosn't have any weakness |
| 17:38.05 | Chestal | larsl: hmm, really? Never noticed that. But I'm not a climber :-) |
| 17:38.12 | bryjen | with BU you'd have to keep people from getting close in |
| 17:38.20 | Chestal | patlabor: yes, right, except for the 'damn, I locked the wrong player' |
| 17:38.37 | JBDiGriz | bry, you can't turn fast enough to keep them from closing |
| 17:38.42 | bryjen | again, dangerous for nearby teammates :) |
| 17:38.55 | tea|tree_ | :D |
| 17:39.27 | Chestal | on my serevr thief flag is close to useless, at least for its main purpose. But it can still be used for 'backstabbng' |
| 17:39.49 | Chestal | JBD: but when it's not 1 on 1, I think its quite powerful |
| 17:40.04 | bryjen | driving in front of a 'mate with CL and getting shot is wonderful. "You *!@#, didn't you see me!!" "No." "Oh, duh, right :(" |
| 17:41.29 | JBDiGriz | ches, the minute someone decides to take you out, you're gone unless you drop the bu. |
| 17:45.14 | Chestal | maybe, but at least you can drop it |
| 17:45.18 | Chestal | must go, cu |
| 17:45.58 | Nidhoggr | has anyone looked into time/date stamping -d output? |
| 17:52.42 | larsl | Nidhoggr: Not me, but I think I could add it with just a few lines of code. |
| 17:53.09 | Nidhoggr | a friend volunteered to do it for me, but it'd be cool if someone did it and it got into the CVS |
| 17:53.28 | larsl | If no one else has done it in an hour I can fix it. =) |
| 17:53.35 | Nidhoggr | thanks. :) |
| 17:57.01 | TimRiker | Setup: Server requires (UDP) clients! |
| 17:57.02 | TimRiker | -t is meaningless when using a custom world, ignoring |
| 17:57.02 | TimRiker | style: 24e |
| 17:57.02 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.02 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.02 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.04 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.06 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.08 | TimRiker | exit code: 1 |
| 17:58.42 | TimRiker | why does it exit? |
| 17:58.52 | Bagheera | always thought it would be nice to see a faint outline of a CL tank if you are on the same team......oh well......guess it is just part of the game |
| 18:00.14 | Bagheera | actually, on a similar note, the same with ST of the same team as well..............teams should have more advantages.......but again..........<repeat above> |
| 18:04.17 | Nidhoggr | ~bzflist |
| 18:04.59 | JBDiGriz | Weddings are scary. |
| 18:05.00 | Nidhoggr | it's not my wedding pics is it? |
| 18:05.01 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:05.16 | patlabor221 | no, it was mine |
| 18:05.23 | Nidhoggr | ah, cool. |
| 18:05.23 | Bagheera | <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> |
| 18:05.27 | Nidhoggr | we don't wanna scare the natives. |
| 18:05.41 | JBDiGriz | nid, that's naives ;-) |
| 18:05.41 | patlabor221 | no no, my wedding was not "cool" |
| 18:06.33 | Bagheera | pat is one of the few who have walked into and out of the "trap" |
| 18:06.42 | patlabor221 | it's not a trap |
| 18:06.43 | Nidhoggr | I was saying that it was cool, cuz you didn't find MY wedding pics. :) |
| 18:06.48 | patlabor221 | and if you think it is, your fooling yourslef |
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| 18:06.59 | patlabor221 | just that one should not have been |
| 18:07.03 | patlabor221 | http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/images/back-in-the-day.jpg |
| 18:07.07 | JBDiGriz | It's only a trap if you make it one. |
| 18:07.09 | patlabor221 | that was soo long ago |
| 18:08.18 | patlabor221 | if you think it's a trap, then it will be. your problaby no where near ready for it then. |
| 18:08.19 | JBDiGriz | A job/house/... can be a trap if that's what you consider it to be. |
| 18:08.48 | brlcad | it's a trap :) |
| 18:08.48 | patlabor221 | he just wants to find somone who won't make him stop the stupid "........" crap :) |
| 18:09.19 | JBDiGriz | he wants to find someone who will provide all the benefits though. ;-) |
| 18:09.33 | patlabor221 | so he sould just get some hookers |
| 18:09.48 | JBDiGriz | Not all of them will clean and do laundry. |
| 18:09.55 | patlabor221 | ok hookers and a maid |
| 18:10.17 | patlabor221 | it allways costs more to the things with all positive, and no negitive |
| 18:10.52 | JBDiGriz | I actually believe the cost is about the same. |
| 18:11.08 | patlabor221 | cost yeah, I was speaking monitaraly. |
| 18:11.25 | patlabor221 | marage just seems to make it not feel soo bad. |
| 18:11.40 | JBDiGriz | I've never calculated it monetarily, but I still think it's about the same. |
| 18:11.55 | patlabor221 | cept if you are maried to my evil ex-wife |
| 18:12.01 | patlabor221 | probably |
| 18:12.16 | brlcad | lol |
| 18:12.21 | JBDiGriz | The big decision is whether to have a family. |
| 18:12.24 | brlcad | I think we need a "case study" :) |
| 18:12.42 | patlabor221 | I'm guessing you'll take the hooker part? |
| 18:12.55 | brlcad | oh, I'll take the maid too ;) |
| 18:13.34 | patlabor221 | anyone know if there is a linux client for tribes2? |
| 18:14.37 | brlcad | http://www.lokigames.com/products/tribes2/ |
| 18:14.44 | brlcad | yep |
| 18:14.53 | patlabor221 | ahhh good |
| 18:15.14 | patlabor221 | I am thinking about seting up a server for that |
| 18:15.30 | patlabor221 | show how real team games are played :) |
| 18:15.39 | patlabor221 | and so I can shoot spiff in the head :) |
| 18:15.45 | brlcad | lol |
| 18:15.50 | brlcad | "head shot!" |
| 18:16.05 | patlabor221 | T2 dosn't make there head come off tho :( |
| 18:16.21 | brlcad | bah, where's the fun then?? |
| 18:16.31 | patlabor221 | well you can fly |
| 18:16.35 | patlabor221 | and there are vehicles |
| 18:17.04 | brlcad | yea, I've got some tribes2 nuts here at work that play almost daily |
| 18:17.04 | patlabor221 | so I say that makes up for it |
| 18:17.14 | patlabor221 | it's fun |
| 18:18.04 | brlcad | one of them went down to an international game convention last summer and his team placed in the top 3 -- sick man, sick |
| 18:18.14 | patlabor221 | wow |
| 18:18.19 | patlabor221 | that is a bit too much |
| 18:18.27 | JBDiGriz | I see pat has sworn off social life in favor of computer games. |
| 18:18.36 | patlabor221 | no, not at all |
| 18:18.42 | patlabor221 | tho it was almost like that for a while |
| 18:18.49 | patlabor221 | I broke the EQ adition |
| 18:19.03 | brlcad | good for you |
| 18:19.36 | patlabor221 | at one time I owned 3 eq accounts and played them concurently |
| 18:20.40 | patlabor221 | dosn't seem like many BZers have |
| 18:20.48 | brlcad | JB: no atari? |
| 18:21.36 | brlcad | who is M3C3NA5? :) |
| 18:21.44 | M3C3NA5 | lol |
| 18:21.48 | JBDiGriz | No atari. The kids have Gameboys, and I had to walk them through Pokemon when they were younger. |
| 18:22.12 | brlcad | wow, I'd have figured you to be an atari guy for some reason |
| 18:22.20 | patlabor221 | I still stand by my statement that BZ is at it's core a FPS, and that some things can be learned from other games in the line. |
| 18:22.31 | patlabor221 | atari is dead |
| 18:22.47 | brlcad | bah! |
| 18:22.55 | brlcad | My 2600 works just great |
| 18:23.03 | patlabor221 | as did I |
| 18:23.08 | patlabor221 | I still have my genisis |
| 18:23.23 | patlabor221 | atari is now just a brand name for infogramers |
| 18:23.54 | JBDiGriz | I tried the 2600 at one point. I thought the controls were a bit weak. The 5200 had good controls, but I never felt I had the time. |
| 18:24.21 | patlabor221 | it was a stick and a button |
| 18:24.33 | patlabor221 | what could be "weak" about that? |
| 18:24.50 | JBDiGriz | Unresponsive. |
| 18:24.51 | patlabor221 | well it was really 5 buttons |
| 18:25.22 | patlabor221 | we used to bust those controlers like MAD |
| 18:25.39 | patlabor221 | graphic hookers!!! |
| 18:25.49 | JBDiGriz | Bags, They're all related in the web. |
| 18:26.03 | Bagheera | yep, that is what is scary |
| 18:26.13 | JBDiGriz | Those aren't graphics cards, they were the first game consoles. |
| 18:26.22 | Bagheera | sry, just picked that up |
| 18:26.43 | patlabor221 | anything from the last gen systems back can be emulated now tho |
| 18:26.52 | patlabor221 | and often emulated better then the origonal |
| 18:27.37 | patlabor221 | tho I would like one of those origonal sit down pole position cabnets |
| 18:27.38 | JBDiGriz | I'm not sure what it is about bz that makes it more interesting. It might be the community, and the level of interaction. |
| 18:28.03 | patlabor221 | BZ is a slower more strategec type of shooter. |
| 18:28.09 | patlabor221 | not so mutch twitch |
| 18:28.12 | JBDiGriz | The network issues don't make the playability very enticing at first. |
| 18:28.47 | patlabor221 | I still think you could easaly mod quake into playing just like BZ |
| 18:29.06 | brlcad | BZ is a nice real-time strategy with a great (mostly) community |
| 18:29.31 | brlcad | bzquake? |
| 18:29.40 | JBDiGriz | I've noticed that when people think about leaving, it's usually community issues. |
| 18:29.56 | Bagheera | ditto |
| 18:32.24 | patlabor221 | sure you could change the physics and gameplay to be just like BZ |
| 18:32.32 | patlabor221 | replace teh dude with a tank model |
| 18:32.33 | brlcad | which probably just means that it is the most important reason for most of us. I know I'm not here because of the excellent underlying network implementation.. |
| 18:32.38 | patlabor221 | and turn the runes into flags |
| 18:33.17 | Bagheera | like the idea that one hit does not kill you........life points, damage points....what have you |
| 18:33.29 | patlabor221 | that is part of gameplay |
| 18:33.37 | patlabor221 | you could mod quake to have one hit |
| 18:34.03 | patlabor221 | it's not intrinsic to the engine or anything, it's just fluf |
| 18:34.05 | Bagheera | probably just bring all the lag issues back to the front.... |
| 18:34.07 | JBDiGriz | That might be an interesting variation for ffa, multiple hits before you are taken out, and then a longer time before spawning. |
| 18:34.39 | patlabor221 | Treadmarks had tank "heath" |
| 18:34.52 | patlabor221 | and you would pick up "wrenches" to fix yourself |
| 18:35.32 | JBDiGriz | I wouldn't want to spend time fixing the tank in a busy bz battlefield. ;-) |
| 18:35.42 | patlabor221 | it was instant :) |
| 18:36.00 | patlabor221 | was funny, the tank would deform the more damage it had, so it would get "bent" |
| 18:36.02 | JBDiGriz | It's as good as jumping tanks. ;-) |
| 18:36.21 | patlabor221 | yup |
| 18:36.21 | JBDiGriz | The Picasso tank ... |
| 18:42.15 | brlcad | the masked mecenas failed to identify him/herself |
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| 18:54.06 | *** join/#bzflag BaDiN (Paramount@81.193.130.153) |
| 18:54.08 | BaDiN | olá |
| 18:54.33 | brlcad | olá |
| 18:54.53 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): msg on exit |
| 19:01.53 | *** join/#bzflag guest257 (~00@p509115F7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:03.13 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (configure.in): send humorous msgs to the right handle |
| 19:03.56 | bryjen | ./configure < /dev/joke |
| 19:03.57 | brlcad | how exactly are the e-mails kicked off after commit? |
| 19:04.26 | brlcad | is there a perl script hook in cvs that does the deed? |
| 19:04.42 | brlcad | or does CIA actually do it? |
| 19:04.55 | brlcad | or something else.. |
| 19:04.58 | TimRiker | brlcad: checkout CVSROOT and you will see the script and the trigger. |
| 19:05.05 | TimRiker | CIA gets them. |
| 19:05.32 | brlcad | where does CIA live from? |
| 19:09.16 | scanline | I'm running CIA |
| 19:09.38 | scanline | it handles commit messages from many projects, and lives in #commits |
| 19:09.56 | brlcad | ah, there's not a separate CIA for each projecT? |
| 19:10.01 | scanline | right |
| 19:10.11 | brlcad | could you? |
| 19:10.20 | scanline | could I what? |
| 19:10.43 | brlcad | i mean could someone run a separate cia for a different project? |
| 19:11.03 | scanline | they could, the source code is on its web site... but there's not much point, since it's easy to use the existing one |
| 19:11.12 | scanline | looks like it's handling 90 projects right now |
| 19:11.23 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/cgi-bin/cia_stats.cgi |
| 19:11.25 | larsl | I suppose we have a TimeKeeper because time(), ctime(), localtime() etc don't work on all platforms? |
| 19:18.30 | tea|tree_ | ~ducatictf |
| 19:18.37 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 19:20.03 | tea|tree_ | is the a grafik designer here |
| 19:20.08 | tea|tree_ | just a logo ore something |
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| 19:28.11 | brlcad | larsl: yes |
| 19:32.42 | *** part/#bzflag guest257 (~00@p509115F7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:44.44 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 19:47.32 | *** join/#bzflag Merry (~gig1992@adsl-68-73-87-1.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 19:48.02 | Merry | hi |
| 19:48.23 | brlcad | learner? |
| 19:48.32 | brlcad | merry? |
| 19:48.32 | Merry | lol |
| 19:48.35 | Merry | yes |
| 19:48.39 | brlcad | :) |
| 19:48.45 | Merry | are you learner? |
| 19:49.03 | bryjen | not I |
| 19:49.10 | JBDiGriz | nor I |
| 19:49.20 | bryjen | ~brlcad |
| 19:49.22 | Merry | Why did you ask ...lol....merry? learner? |
| 19:49.27 | Merry | :-) |
| 19:49.30 | JBDiGriz | haldir? |
| 19:49.33 | brlcad | =) |
| 19:49.33 | Merry | yes |
| 19:49.41 | Merry | Where is learner? |
| 19:49.51 | brlcad | where is that idiot? |
| 19:49.53 | JBDiGriz | ~seen learner |
| 19:49.54 | | learner is currently on #bzflag (20h 46m 4s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 15h 15m 26s |
| 19:50.00 | bryjen | ~learner |
| 19:50.02 | | i guess learner is your friend |
| 19:50.07 | Merry | ok |
| 19:50.11 | Merry | yes yes |
| 19:50.12 | JBDiGriz | That can't be him. only 22 messages. |
| 19:50.17 | brlcad | lol |
| 19:50.55 | Merry | hmm |
| 19:51.13 | Merry | brlcad? |
| 19:51.26 | Merry | brlcad? |
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| 19:51.33 | Merry | hi jb |
| 19:51.43 | brlcad | wrong button eh? |
| 19:51.46 | Merry | only 5 min on mirc |
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| 19:51.50 | Merry | brlcad? |
| 19:51.53 | JBDiGriz | That's it, I'm back to x-chat. one crash is all a program gets |
| 19:52.03 | bryjen | harsh |
| 19:52.06 | Merry | brlcad? |
| 19:52.16 | brlcad | merry is persistent :) |
| 19:52.18 | Merry | :) |
| 19:52.22 | Merry | hehehehhehehee |
| 19:52.26 | Merry | you sound like learner |
| 19:52.37 | Merry | that's what learner said last night |
| 19:52.48 | brlcad | GMTA |
| 19:52.51 | JBDiGriz | A keen observer of humankind is Merry, although unwise in the lore of IRC |
| 19:53.16 | Merry | very funny |
| 19:54.08 | bryjen | ~seen patlabor221 |
| 19:54.08 | | i haven't seen 'patlabor221 ', bryjen |
| 19:54.16 | bryjen | stupid spaces |
| 19:54.22 | patlabor221 | I have |
| 19:54.35 | bryjen | Otay |
| 19:54.53 | Merry | loool |
| 19:54.55 | larsl | Does C++ have variadic macros? |
| 19:54.57 | JBDiGriz | Here is some irc lore for you, a command you should try "/whois brlcad" |
| 19:55.01 | Merry | lol* |
| 19:55.32 | JBDiGriz | Watch out for spaces, especially handicapped spaces. |
| 19:55.51 | patlabor221 | handiABLED! |
| 19:56.17 | bryjen | patlabor221: can you do a tarball of the current 1.7 CVS stuff. Or a patch of the fixes you did this morning? |
| 19:56.20 | JBDiGriz | pat, you can use yours hands for whatever you'd like, but you don't have to tell us about it. ;-) |
| 19:56.37 | patlabor221 | can't get it from CVS? |
| 19:56.52 | bryjen | errr, anon CVS from SF? |
| 19:56.59 | patlabor221 | oh |
| 19:57.01 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:57.04 | patlabor221 | it's gone wonky |
| 19:58.13 | Merry | I;m gonna go on ducati |
| 19:58.18 | Merry | bye! I'll be back! |
| 19:58.24 | JBDiGriz | Say hi to learner for us |
| 19:58.31 | Merry | lol |
| 19:58.37 | brlcad | yea, tell him I said hi :) |
| 19:58.43 | Merry | he's not on ducati |
| 19:58.51 | brlcad | he might be |
| 19:58.51 | Merry | brlcad is learner |
| 19:58.54 | Merry | hhehehehe |
| 19:58.58 | Merry | I just looked |
| 19:58.59 | Merry | hehehe |
| 19:59.02 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 19:59.03 | Merry | leg is palying |
| 19:59.04 | patlabor221 | http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/files/bzflag1_7_g3.zip |
| 19:59.10 | brlcad | where's bzadmin when I need it :) |
| 19:59.13 | patlabor221 | that's the changes I made |
| 19:59.17 | bryjen | Ahh. thanks |
| 19:59.38 | Merry | how'd you do that? |
| 19:59.51 | tea|tree_ | Pat |
| 19:59.57 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:00.03 | brlcad | ~d |
| 20:00.05 | tea|tree_ | is that the offical release of 1,7g3 |
| 20:00.07 | Merry | now learner's on |
| 20:00.11 | Merry | bye |
| 20:00.15 | patlabor221 | umm no. there is no G3 |
| 20:00.39 | bryjen | just like there was no G1 |
| 20:00.46 | patlabor221 | G3 would be the dev version post G2 |
| 20:00.46 | JBDiGriz | There was a few changes added, and the version number was upped to G3 to distinguish from G2. |
| 20:00.59 | patlabor221 | if it was released it would be G4 |
| 20:01.06 | patlabor221 | but there is no reason to make a G4 |
| 20:01.26 | JBDiGriz | but the windows/intel crowd have vowed never to use a G4/G5. ;-) |
| 20:01.43 | patlabor221 | riiiiighhhhhttttt |
| 20:01.51 | patlabor221 | and you say I'm paranoid |
| 20:01.53 | JBDiGriz | pblblblbttttthhhhhhh |
| 20:02.15 | patlabor221 | least the OS I use dosn't have an employment position called "evangelist" |
| 20:02.18 | JBDiGriz | I always thought you were mononoid. ;-) |
| 20:02.33 | patlabor221 | ohh no, I have multiple facets |
| 20:03.05 | JBDiGriz | My OS doesn't have any employment positions. Last I heard no one was working for the machine yet. ;-) |
| 20:05.50 | bryjen | Ok. what else would I have to make executable besides autogen.sh after unpacking from a permission-less zip archive? |
| 20:06.20 | brlcad | that merry is a wild girl :) |
| 20:06.29 | JBDiGriz | pat, a quick search for evangelist under M$ careers turns up about 3 pages of listings. |
| 20:06.36 | patlabor221 | wow |
| 20:06.54 | patlabor221 | I just remember guy kuwalski |
| 20:07.30 | patlabor221 | well it's it's a good think I use jeffix |
| 20:08.09 | JBDiGriz | Guy Kawasaki (like the Japanese company) only started the usage of the term. He was an amazing technical marketer. |
| 20:08.15 | larsl | Adding timestamps is a bit trickier than I thought it would be. =( |
| 20:08.46 | patlabor221 | I read an article when he was hired by apple and he said that, that was his title |
| 20:09.02 | bryjen | JBDiGriz: what about devil's advocates? |
| 20:09.05 | JBDiGriz | He took the title |
| 20:09.28 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 20:09.33 | patlabor221 | well he was kooky :) |
| 20:09.36 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: I don't think most companys would appreciate that |
| 20:10.06 | bryjen | odd, I thought Bill had lotsa lawyers ;) |
| 20:10.22 | JBDiGriz | All of the early Apple people were kooky. I would much rather be in a kooky crowd than what passes for non-kooky these days. |
| 20:11.04 | JBDiGriz | bry, Find me one who refers to himself as the devil's advocate. ;-) |
| 20:12.24 | patlabor221 | we need to make a linux distro called kookix |
| 20:12.52 | JBDiGriz | Silly Pat, kookix are for kids. ;-) |
| 20:12.57 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 20:13.09 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.11 | patlabor221 | like the rabit just can't go to the store. |
| 20:14.35 | *** part/#bzflag Merry (~gig1992@adsl-68-73-87-1.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 20:16.04 | bryjen | s/references/referenced |
| 20:16.12 | patlabor221 | perhaps bryjen could give more info |
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| 20:16.19 | patlabor221 | more then "it don't work" |
| 20:16.54 | patlabor221 | it is all windows formated files, you should make sure your unziper takes care of that. |
| 20:17.04 | bryjen | there's weren't any permissions on the files, so I had to make autogen.sh executable |
| 20:17.17 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 20:17.21 | JBDiGriz | I thought they were "jeffix" formatted files. ;-) |
| 20:17.22 | bryjen | but I'm still getting "bad interpreter" |
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| 20:17.41 | larsl | config.guess, missing, install-sh |
| 20:17.47 | patlabor221 | jeffix works with many difrent file formats |
| 20:18.04 | larsl | config.sub, config.status, mkinstalldirs |
| 20:18.11 | bryjen | the #! in autogen is /bin/sh, which is a symlink to /bin/bash here |
| 20:18.11 | larsl | All those are executable, some might be generated. |
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| 20:18.43 | bryjen | larsl: none of them exist right now |
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| 20:19.01 | patlabor221 | dono man. do you have ssh access to SF? |
| 20:19.07 | patlabor221 | if so you can probably get latest |
| 20:19.15 | bryjen | nope. I'm just a lowly luser |
| 20:19.25 | larsl | /bin/sh links to bash on my machine too. |
| 20:19.44 | larsl | Try "bash autogen.sh" |
| 20:19.45 | patlabor221 | then perhaps jbd or someone with a nix can get it. |
| 20:20.02 | patlabor221 | as I can not get ssh to SF to work on asgard. |
| 20:20.31 | bryjen | I'm trying running the commands in autogen by hand |
| 20:20.54 | Carnage | ill learner be back? |
| 20:21.06 | brlcad | learner is asleep |
| 20:21.09 | Carnage | when will learner be back** |
| 20:21.14 | Carnage | sigh |
| 20:21.33 | Carnage | i guess ill habve 2 let out my anger the old fashion way |
| 20:21.33 | brlcad | maybe he forgot to change his away message |
| 20:21.37 | JBDiGriz | He usually works until about 9PM EDT |
| 20:22.47 | larsl | bryjen: I suppose you have /usr/bin/perl too? automake is written in Perl. |
| 20:22.55 | brlcad | larsl: found the failure |
| 20:23.14 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:24.06 | brlcad | there is no sys/poll.h nor poll() here |
| 20:24.16 | larsl | Ah, that would be a problem. |
| 20:24.22 | bryjen | all the auto* commands run, but then configure dies as it starts makeing the makefiles |
| 20:24.33 | larsl | select() would probably work just as well. |
| 20:24.35 | bryjen | when I type them in by hand |
| 20:25.17 | larsl | bryjen: No write permissions in the directories? |
| 20:25.26 | bryjen | hmm |
| 20:25.31 | larsl | brlcad: Do you have select()? |
| 20:25.37 | brlcad | of course ;) |
| 20:26.01 | JBDiGriz | That old SYSV vs. BSD argument again... |
| 20:26.15 | bryjen | nope. the dirs came out as 777 and the files 666 |
| 20:26.30 | bryjen | hrmph |
| 20:26.34 | bryjen | ~seen captain_proton |
| 20:26.35 | | captain_proton is currently on #picogui (1d 17h 42m 49s) #bzflag (1d 17h 42m 49s) |
| 20:26.45 | captain_proton | yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes? |
| 20:26.53 | brlcad | poll() comes from sysv? figures |
| 20:27.07 | bryjen | I only asked once! and you haven't been talking |
| 20:27.11 | captain_proton | almost everything comes from sysv |
| 20:27.22 | larsl | "Conforming to XPG4-UNIX", I don't know what that is. |
| 20:27.26 | brlcad | hehe, I don't think so buddy ;) |
| 20:27.40 | JBDiGriz | Except sockets/select/UFS/.... |
| 20:27.46 | bryjen | captain_proton: can you grab a snapshot of 1.7 CVS ? |
| 20:28.30 | Merry | Does anyone know where pat is? |
| 20:28.36 | JBDiGriz | Yes |
| 20:28.41 | bryjen | captain_proton: g2 bzfs has an auth/perms bug that patlabor221 fixed this morning |
| 20:28.43 | Merry | where? |
| 20:29.05 | Merry | jb |
| 20:29.11 | Merry | where? I need him |
| 20:29.24 | *** part/#bzflag trepan (~trepan@CPE0040f42db082-CM00e06f15f704.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 20:29.29 | JBDiGriz | ~seen patlabor221 |
| 20:29.29 | | patlabor221 is currently on #bzflag (4h 38m 48s). Has said a total of 212 messages. Is idling for 9m 27s |
| 20:29.44 | JBDiGriz | or do you want his physical address? |
| 20:29.47 | patlabor221 | I was talking to somone at my desk, sheeshe :) |
| 20:30.05 | patlabor221 | and I was talking to the purdy girl who moved away |
| 20:30.16 | captain_proton | bryjen: hmm, i suppose |
| 20:30.28 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you comitted to v1_7? |
| 20:30.36 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:30.43 | patlabor221 | well to both branches |
| 20:30.55 | patlabor221 | it was a simple 1.7 fix |
| 20:35.46 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 20:35.50 | tea|tree_ | dong |
| 20:38.17 | larsl | Hm. select() doesn't tell me the number of bytes available from the file descriptor. |
| 20:43.20 | TimRiker | larsl: nope, but you can read non-block till you get a short read. |
| 20:44.16 | JBDiGriz | There's an ioctl which will tell you how many bytes are available. |
| 20:44.27 | larsl | I found out that it doesn't matter anyway, I just read one character every time. |
| 20:46.21 | TimRiker | heh. as long as you don't write one character at a time out a net pipe. |
| 20:46.38 | TimRiker | though reading a char at a time is a Bad Thing for performance reasons. |
| 20:46.45 | larsl | This is from a terminal. |
| 20:50.27 | Merry | does anyone have trillian |
| 20:50.48 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (StdBothUI.cxx): Changed poll() to select() for better portability |
| 20:50.53 | Merry | I was wondering how to download it |
| 20:51.20 | patlabor221 | just google for it |
| 20:51.25 | patlabor221 | they have a site |
| 20:52.36 | Merry | k |
| 20:52.38 | Merry | thanks |
| 20:58.20 | brlcad | larsl: builds :) |
| 20:58.25 | brlcad | but doesn't work :) |
| 20:58.40 | larsl | Bah. |
| 20:58.49 | larsl | What does it do? |
| 20:58.53 | brlcad | I get a "Send to all:" prompt underlined on a clear screen and that's it |
| 20:59.16 | brlcad | can you connect to brlcad.org:14242 with yours? |
| 20:59.46 | *** part/#bzflag drinian (~drinian@pcp153139pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 20:59.57 | larsl | Hm, no. |
| 21:00.07 | larsl | But it works for a local server. |
| 21:00.29 | brlcad | that is a local server for me .. |
| 21:01.32 | larsl | -team rogue =) |
| 21:01.39 | larsl | Default is green, I think. |
| 21:02.17 | brlcad | i think I actually got a packet through via 127.0.0.1 then a broken pipe |
| 21:02.43 | brlcad | is anyone on? |
| 21:02.47 | larsl | I am on. |
| 21:02.53 | larsl | You are "UNKNOWN". |
| 21:03.51 | larsl | You don't get my messages? |
| 21:03.59 | brlcad | not a one |
| 21:04.36 | larsl | The server seems to think that you're not a real player, so it doesn't send anything to you. |
| 21:04.59 | larsl | Your own messages are probably echoed locally. |
| 21:05.56 | brlcad | *shrug* |
| 21:06.00 | brlcad | it's progress |
| 21:06.28 | larsl | It doesn't seem to "log in" properly. |
| 21:08.12 | JBDiGriz | This week's invisibles seems to be pretty easy. I managed to pick up 3 of them quickly. |
| 21:08.14 | tea|tree_ | pat?! |
| 21:09.09 | captain_proton | ~invisibles |
| 21:09.10 | | well, invisibles is at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
| 21:10.46 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:10.51 | Nidhoggr | it's annoying when I have to config a macintosh at work, then i loose access to my desktop for a while. |
| 21:10.57 | patlabor221 | gimme a bit |
| 21:11.00 | patlabor221 | trying to get #2 |
| 21:11.49 | tea|tree_ | pat? |
| 21:12.08 | patlabor221 | I see, gimme a bit |
| 21:12.28 | tea|tree_ | do you mean me |
| 21:12.33 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 21:12.38 | patlabor221 | we have all but #2 |
| 21:12.38 | JBDiGriz | 2,3, and 6 were the ones I managed to get. 4 and 5 look very familiar. |
| 21:19.31 | tea|tree_ | nite all |
| 21:19.42 | patlabor221 | Thalywacker! |
| 21:20.50 | *** join/#bzflag Merry (~gig1992@adsl-68-73-87-1.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 21:23.34 | bryjen | Thaly? |
| 21:24.15 | brlcad | jb: hint on 2? |
| 21:24.34 | Merry | does anyone have ICQ |
| 21:24.44 | patlabor221 | thallywacker! |
| 21:24.47 | Merry | could you look up my ICQ number |
| 21:24.53 | JBDiGriz | It's a recent movie, 2002. |
| 21:24.59 | Merry | please this is ergent |
| 21:25.00 | patlabor221 | noone here had seen it :( |
| 21:25.04 | Merry | ergeant |
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| 21:25.19 | patlabor221 | you should be able to go to the ICQ site and look it up |
| 21:25.20 | Merry | does anyone have an icq number |
| 21:25.25 | Merry | k |
| 21:25.27 | Merry | thanks |
| 21:25.44 | Bagheera | ~seen quol |
| 21:25.45 | | quol <~quolsimo@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 17h 25m ago, saying: 'hello all'. |
| 21:25.45 | patlabor221 | thanks to jbd we got them all |
| 21:25.54 | Merry | look it up how? |
| 21:26.14 | patlabor221 | should be a way to search based on mail or name If I recall |
| 21:26.23 | bryjen | http://people.icq.com/whitepages/ |
| 21:26.40 | brlcad | 7 is one of my all-time favorites |
| 21:26.46 | patlabor221 | mine too |
| 21:26.48 | Merry | k |
| 21:26.52 | patlabor221 | Kent, this is god. |
| 21:27.15 | brlcad | Hellloo... Jesus??..?? |
| 21:27.33 | patlabor221 | "oh and kent, stop playing with yourself" |
| 21:27.47 | bryjen | now if we can just keep it from exploding.... |
| 21:27.52 | brlcad | "Take a step forward" |
| 21:27.56 | brlcad | "Now take a step back" |
| 21:28.00 | patlabor221 | ton of great characters in that |
| 21:28.03 | patlabor221 | Jrodan was great |
| 21:28.15 | brlcad | "Step forward .. and we're doing the cha-cha!" |
| 21:28.22 | patlabor221 | "do you have a bed? cus if you don't I was gonna make you one. you see I don't sleep much" |
| 21:28.24 | Merry | lol |
| 21:28.48 | patlabor221 | that scene is the yougurt part, where they do that line. |
| 21:29.08 | Merry | Hey could someone look it up for me, like get on ICQ and Find/Add Users |
| 21:29.58 | patlabor221 | all it does is search the same info that is in those whitepages |
| 21:30.10 | brlcad | "Why is that toy on your head?" |
| 21:30.19 | brlcad | "Because if I wear it anywhere else it chafes" |
| 21:30.22 | Merry | I know but I can't find it |
| 21:30.26 | Merry | on there |
| 21:30.33 | patlabor221 | then how are we going to find it? |
| 21:30.35 | Merry | please do it! |
| 21:30.44 | Merry | Someone has to log into ICQ |
| 21:30.50 | patlabor221 | I don't have ICQ, remembering a number is lame |
| 21:30.58 | Merry | then click Find/Add User |
| 21:31.13 | Merry | jb do ytou? |
| 21:31.20 | Merry | you |
| 21:31.22 | Merry | * |
| 21:31.38 | Merry | you need it to log on |
| 21:32.14 | brlcad | "I guess it goes from God to Jerry to you to the clearners, right Kent?" |
| 21:32.15 | bryjen | what's the matter merry? |
| 21:32.28 | Merry | Someone has to log into ICQ |
| 21:32.38 | Merry | I can't remember my n umber |
| 21:32.44 | Merry | :-*( |
| 21:32.50 | Merry | :*( |
| 21:33.07 | Merry | please help |
| 21:33.17 | Merry | ):) |
| 21:33.21 | Merry | (:) |
| 21:33.22 | bryjen | what name / email info did you register with? |
| 21:33.31 | Merry | gig1992@ameritech.net |
| 21:34.38 | Merry | get it? |
| 21:34.40 | patlabor221 | I thik you can just try to re-register with the same info and it'll show you the number |
| 21:35.16 | patlabor221 | and dosn't your ICQ app have the number? |
| 21:35.18 | Merry | RYan turn it down! |
| 21:35.27 | Merry | oh sorry talking to legolas |
| 21:35.37 | patlabor221 | he's on on IRC |
| 21:35.43 | Merry | he is? |
| 21:35.52 | patlabor221 | that was the question |
| 21:35.54 | brlcad | merry if you put your first name, last name, and e-mail in to the panel on the right, it will tell you your number |
| 21:35.57 | Merry | in our house |
| 21:36.10 | Merry | I tried it didn't work |
| 21:36.22 | brlcad | lol @ turn it down |
| 21:36.35 | Merry | He's my brother |
| 21:36.42 | patlabor221 | we know |
| 21:36.47 | Merry | He's watching LOTR Two Towers |
| 21:36.51 | Merry | RYAN! |
| 21:36.53 | brlcad | i think everyone knows |
| 21:36.53 | patlabor221 | I'm sure he is |
| 21:36.53 | Merry | sorrry |
| 21:36.56 | Merry | :D |
| 21:36.59 | Merry | lol |
| 21:37.10 | patlabor221 | just register a new icq number |
| 21:37.19 | patlabor221 | or get it from your old app, to set up trillian |
| 21:37.25 | Merry | Did bryjen do it? |
| 21:37.31 | Merry | app??? |
| 21:37.36 | patlabor221 | application |
| 21:37.37 | Merry | I set it up already |
| 21:37.40 | Merry | oh |
| 21:37.44 | patlabor221 | just go read it then |
| 21:37.54 | bryjen | Merry: I tried looking you email up with ICQ's web page. didn't work :( |
| 21:37.56 | patlabor221 | the think you normaly use for icq |
| 21:38.13 | Merry | do you have an icq name? |
| 21:38.45 | Nidhoggr | 4 is the only one I can't get. |
| 21:38.56 | brlcad | merry, if you have another e-mail that panel should work with it |
| 21:39.07 | brlcad | try older e-mails that you may have used |
| 21:39.15 | patlabor221 | #4= THALLYWACKER |
| 21:39.20 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 21:39.21 | patlabor221 | and it's the most played movie on calbe |
| 21:39.38 | Merry | Thanks guys |
| 21:39.54 | brlcad | wow, even my old profile from like 8 years ago is there.. |
| 21:40.23 | Nidhoggr | can't find thallywacker on imdb |
| 21:40.38 | patlabor221 | that's not the name |
| 21:40.40 | patlabor221 | it's a line from it |
| 21:40.47 | patlabor221 | it's what the fat lady says |
| 21:40.52 | Nidhoggr | ah. |
| 21:41.02 | patlabor221 | hint-> girls shower |
| 21:41.42 | brlcad | hehe |
| 21:42.02 | patlabor221 | was that movie suposed to be college or high school? |
| 21:42.11 | brlcad | pat: that's a hole-in-the-wall obscure reference ;) |
| 21:42.28 | patlabor221 | budum bump |
| 21:43.21 | brlcad | i think it was supposed to be high school |
| 21:43.50 | JBDiGriz | Now I have #4, it has been a while since I saw that movie. |
| 21:44.16 | JBDiGriz | Pat's "obscure" hint was the right one for me. |
| 21:44.17 | patlabor221 | I think that movie is on any one cable station at all times somewhere in the world. |
| 21:44.36 | JBDiGriz | What's a hint for #5? |
| 21:44.46 | patlabor221 | mork |
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| 21:46.11 | patlabor221 | and yes it's spelled right |
| 21:46.32 | brlcad | OOh.. good one |
| 21:46.56 | patlabor221 | it should be a dead givaway |
| 21:47.52 | JBDiGriz | That made me think of "Good Will Hunting", but that didn't work. |
| 21:48.03 | patlabor221 | they were similar |
| 21:48.18 | Nidhoggr | w00 8 out of 8 |
| 21:48.25 | patlabor221 | this would be before that tho |
| 21:48.38 | patlabor221 | dead on nid! |
| 21:48.49 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 21:48.56 | Nidhoggr | you shoulda rhymed that. |
| 21:49.40 | JBDiGriz | That gave it away. |
| 21:50.40 | patlabor221 | I guessed on that one :) |
| 21:52.00 | JBDiGriz | I'm surprised they didn't include anything from "Paper Chase". |
| 21:52.16 | Nidhoggr | number 2 was hard for me. |
| 21:52.17 | patlabor221 | or breakfast club |
| 21:52.49 | patlabor221 | they shoulda done better off dead |
| 21:53.07 | Nidhoggr | "The Faculty" :) |
| 21:53.33 | JBDiGriz | I wonder if ches already finished it off this week. ;-) |
| 21:53.56 | patlabor221 | dono, I wana know how high up the list we got this week |
| 21:54.03 | patlabor221 | last week we were 29 |
| 21:54.15 | JBDiGriz | What name did you enter as? |
| 21:54.23 | patlabor221 | The Associates |
| 21:54.35 | patlabor221 | since our company name is "gibbs and associates" |
| 21:56.22 | JBDiGriz | I can't help you with 8. ;-) |
| 21:56.43 | patlabor221 | ohh |
| 21:56.51 | patlabor221 | "when your in here, your on my time" |
| 21:57.10 | Nidhoggr | #2 clue is Artemis Gordon |
| 21:57.35 | Nidhoggr | it's a vague clue... but imdb should help you. |
| 21:57.51 | JBDiGriz | That's a double obscure reference nid, but if he looks at it, he'll get it. |
| 21:57.53 | Nidhoggr | 2002 movie. |
| 21:58.08 | JBDiGriz | I don't have 1 or 8, but neither of them looks familiar |
| 21:58.11 | Nidhoggr | can't make it TOO easy. :) |
| 21:58.22 | brlcad | I don't think I've seen 2 |
| 21:58.25 | Nidhoggr | 1 is uber easy |
| 21:58.38 | patlabor221 | noone here had seen 2 |
| 21:58.40 | JBDiGriz | Only if you've seen the movie. |
| 21:58.54 | Nidhoggr | 69 DUDE! |
| 21:59.05 | patlabor221 | how can you not have seen THAT movie |
| 21:59.10 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 21:59.12 | JBDiGriz | What year? |
| 21:59.21 | patlabor221 | "dude, your mom is hot. Remember when I asked her to the prom" |
| 21:59.32 | Nidhoggr | 1990 |
| 21:59.39 | patlabor221 | a clue for that one is "woah!" |
| 22:00.16 | JBDiGriz | I'm not sure I saw any movies in 1990. |
| 22:00.23 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 22:01.01 | patlabor221 | it was the first woah |
| 22:01.26 | brlcad | the epitomy of california-surfer-speak movie |
| 22:01.34 | Nidhoggr | okay.. another clue for #1. Jounny Mnemonic |
| 22:01.42 | patlabor221 | baddd movie |
| 22:01.49 | Nidhoggr | errr johnny |
| 22:02.04 | JBDiGriz | Johnny Mnemonic was an awful movie. |
| 22:02.07 | brlcad | i got nowhere with artemis, nother hint? |
| 22:02.08 | Nidhoggr | yup |
| 22:02.22 | Nidhoggr | wild wild west, bri |
| 22:02.43 | Nidhoggr | artemis gordon was sidekick character in wild wild west. |
| 22:03.40 | brlcad | yep, I hadn't seen 2 :) |
| 22:03.48 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 22:04.06 | Nidhoggr | party on dude! |
| 22:04.08 | JBDiGriz | I never saw #1. The only reason I might have was Carlin. |
| 22:04.19 | Nidhoggr | true |
| 22:04.27 | Nidhoggr | I loved @1 |
| 22:04.30 | Nidhoggr | #1 |
| 22:04.38 | JBDiGriz | How about #8? |
| 22:04.49 | brlcad | How about #6? :) |
| 22:05.06 | JBDiGriz | What's in the background of #6? |
| 22:05.09 | Nidhoggr | 1986 movie |
| 22:05.17 | Nidhoggr | for #8 |
| 22:05.43 | JBDiGriz | Similar time period, but at least I was going to a few movies in '86 |
| 22:05.58 | Nidhoggr | Inspector Gadget |
| 22:06.15 | patlabor221 | "strange things are afoot at the circle K" |
| 22:06.29 | patlabor221 | music stuff |
| 22:06.36 | patlabor221 | #6 is about music |
| 22:06.38 | JBDiGriz | Now I usually like Broderick movies. |
| 22:07.08 | patlabor221 | #8 -> Mr.Hand |
| 22:07.23 | Nidhoggr | I got number 8 fairly quickly |
| 22:07.32 | patlabor221 | yeah us too |
| 22:07.42 | patlabor221 | the guy in the red is a pizza delivery guy |
| 22:07.44 | Nidhoggr | it's a cult classic |
| 22:07.50 | patlabor221 | in a classroom |
| 22:07.57 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 22:08.05 | Nidhoggr | or out of a classroom, as the case may be |
| 22:08.28 | patlabor221 | no there are doors behind the window, they are inside, it's the hallway behind them |
| 22:08.41 | Nidhoggr | I was giving a clue, silly :) |
| 22:08.55 | patlabor221 | well the pizza was deliverd into the classroom |
| 22:09.07 | Nidhoggr | true |
| 22:09.56 | JBDiGriz | In '86 Broderick did Ferris Bueller, which was a classic. |
| 22:10.22 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 22:11.55 | patlabor221 | a hint for #6 would be the penguin from bloom county :) |
| 22:12.15 | JBDiGriz | Definitely obscure, but very funny. ;-) |
| 22:13.00 | JBDiGriz | It's more my type of movie than #8 or #1. ;-) |
| 22:13.25 | JBDiGriz | You know, good acting with an interesting plot. ;-) |
| 22:13.48 | brlcad | #1 had acting? |
| 22:13.54 | brlcad | or a plot? |
| 22:14.13 | JBDiGriz | #6 had acting, and a plot. |
| 22:14.16 | patlabor221 | it had George Carlin! |
| 22:14.53 | JBDiGriz | Clearly you need people who like different types of movies to solve the invisibles. |
| 22:15.01 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:15.09 | patlabor221 | one one very very sad person |
| 22:15.11 | CIA | 03timriker 08v1_7 * 12bzflag/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 1.7 cvsignores |
| 22:15.39 | brlcad | what does matthew broderick have to do with #6? |
| 22:16.10 | JBDiGriz | Not a thing. It was a clue for #8 which I still don't understand. |
| 22:16.37 | CIA | 03timriker 08v1_7 * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 1.7 cvsignores |
| 22:16.59 | brlcad | ah.. I remember the scene "who ordered the pizza?" but can't place the movie |
| 22:19.16 | Chestal | 6 kann ich wahrscheinlich erimdben |
| 22:19.19 | Chestal | oops |
| 22:20.17 | JBDiGriz | hi ches, the invisibles are done. ;-) |
| 22:20.55 | Chestal | not for me, I only got 2 yet, and I javen't seen those movies. I wonder whether I have seen any of them this time |
| 22:21.17 | Nidhoggr | which 2 did you get,chestal? |
| 22:21.19 | JBDiGriz | ok nid, what does Inspector Gadget have to do with #8? |
| 22:21.41 | Nidhoggr | same stars :) both title roles |
| 22:21.56 | Chestal | 3 and 5 |
| 22:22.02 | Chestal | one with google, one with intuition |
| 22:23.26 | Nidhoggr | durrr. |
| 22:23.36 | Chestal | well, I got #1 one |
| 22:23.42 | Chestal | but that was cheating :-) |
| 22:29.48 | patlabor221 | inspecotr gadget has nothing todo with 8 |
| 22:31.41 | Chestal | #4 does not look liek the kind of movie I awtch. Hints? |
| 22:32.02 | JBDiGriz | It's not the kind of movie you watch. |
| 22:32.13 | Nidhoggr | cgestal.. kinda old movie about kids in high school, strip clubs and peeking through holes in locker rooms. |
| 22:32.33 | JBDiGriz | I saw it once a long time ago, and couldn't come up with the name without hints. |
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| 22:32.54 | Nidhoggr | I was emotionally scarred by remembering it. :) |
| 22:33.04 | Chikorita | *sigh* |
| 22:34.25 | Nidhoggr | it's nice of them to give themes to the invisibles each week, or it'd be a lot harder. |
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| 22:35.58 | patlabor221 | chestal-> THALLYWACKER! |
| 22:36.15 | Chestal | Gesundheit! |
| 22:36.17 | bryjen | patlabor221: you enjoy saying that, don't you? ;) |
| 22:36.22 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:36.25 | patlabor221 | yes I do |
| 22:36.32 | patlabor221 | tho it seemed the hint that helped the most |
| 22:36.39 | patlabor221 | was "girls shower room" |
| 22:37.38 | bryjen | ~invisibles |
| 22:37.38 | | somebody said invisibles was at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
| 22:37.40 | JBDiGriz | ~dict tallywacker |
| 22:37.55 | patlabor221 | what was that PE teachers name? |
| 22:38.17 | JBDiGriz | pat, you might want to check out the definition before you say it too often. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tallywacker |
| 22:38.22 | brlcad | Ms. Ballsomething |
| 22:38.29 | patlabor221 | ballbricker |
| 22:38.39 | patlabor221 | that's what it was refering too |
| 22:38.48 | patlabor221 | so it was used properly |
| 22:39.48 | bryjen | -bricker or -breaker |
| 22:40.05 | patlabor221 | I think it was bricker |
| 22:40.22 | brlcad | i think prior was real, and latter was the "behind-her-back" nick |
| 22:40.28 | bryjen | yeah, breaker would've been too obvious |
| 22:40.35 | patlabor221 | more then likely |
| 22:40.50 | Chestal | I guess I might simply never have heard of that movie |
| 22:41.10 | Chestal | sound like I am actually lucky if that is the case |
| 22:41.20 | JBDiGriz | From imdb: Balbricker |
| 22:42.16 | bryjen | Chestal: not exactly high theatre. infamous |
| 22:42.24 | Chestal | ok, I got it now and I must admit that I heard the title before, but never saw it |
| 22:43.06 | JBDiGriz | I got 2,3, and 6. #5 is a better movie as well. |
| 22:43.23 | patlabor221 | you have them all now right jbd? |
| 22:43.23 | brlcad | you .. have .. never .. seen .. it |
| 22:43.34 | JBDiGriz | #7 is popular with the geeks around here. |
| 22:43.43 | patlabor221 | geeks everywhere |
| 22:43.49 | Chestal | I have no idea on 2 |
| 22:44.01 | JBDiGriz | I have them all, but I didn't see #1 or #8. |
| 22:44.15 | JBDiGriz | #2 is more recent, 2002. |
| 22:44.18 | Chestal | I have 5 now and haven't seen a single one of them |
| 22:44.18 | patlabor221 | you didn't see #1!!!! |
| 22:44.23 | Chestal | well, I saw #1 partly |
| 22:44.37 | Chikorita | iznt #1 bill an ted adventure? |
| 22:44.45 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:44.49 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 22:45.19 | brlcad | lol Chestal |
| 22:45.38 | patlabor221 | this was my week to be on a roll, I got 5 of them right away |
| 22:45.41 | brlcad | chestal, you should at least see #7 if you haven't -- that's probably the most decent classic in there |
| 22:45.56 | patlabor221 | 7 is very funny |
| 22:45.59 | JBDiGriz | We can tell that pat is a patron of high art ;-) |
| 22:46.07 | patlabor221 | awwwwwww yeah! |
| 22:46.08 | Chestal | #5 anfd #6 look worthwhile |
| 22:46.24 | JBDiGriz | They are both worthwhile movies with good acting and plot. |
| 22:46.26 | Chestal | I gt no real clue on #7 and #8 either |
| 22:46.28 | patlabor221 | they are considerd much better then 1 |
| 22:46.41 | Chikorita | iz numba 6 Mr. sumtin Opus sumtin ..blah |
| 22:46.48 | patlabor221 | 7-> giant jiffy pop. |
| 22:47.03 | JBDiGriz | At least I consider them better, and I'll usually go see them because of the actors. |
| 22:47.07 | Chestal | pat: your hints are useless to me because they usually contain 1 or more words I cannot make sens eof .-) |
| 22:47.11 | Chestal | ~dict jiffy |
| 22:47.14 | Chikorita | lol Pat i kno dat 1 |
| 22:47.28 | Chestal | hmm, thanks ibot, I knew _that_ |
| 22:47.29 | patlabor221 | popcorn, in tin foil |
| 22:47.35 | bryjen | jiffy pop = instant popcorn |
| 22:47.41 | brlcad | lol, ches don't know jiffy pop |
| 22:47.46 | patlabor221 | the origonal instant popcorn |
| 22:48.01 | patlabor221 | wonder if they still make it |
| 22:48.02 | brlcad | i should go get some -- that stuff is fun |
| 22:48.02 | JBDiGriz | Americans believe this is culture. |
| 22:48.09 | brlcad | pat: yes they do |
| 22:48.14 | patlabor221 | yeah it was good |
| 22:48.16 | Chikorita | can i give Ches a hint? |
| 22:48.25 | patlabor221 | you can do what ever you like |
| 22:48.29 | Chikorita | k |
| 22:48.31 | Chikorita | umm |
| 22:48.31 | JBDiGriz | it's open to all, we don't make rules |
| 22:48.34 | brlcad | no actors or he'll get it :) |
| 22:48.35 | patlabor221 | I allways prefered the hot ait popcorn |
| 22:48.37 | Chestal | got #7 |
| 22:48.46 | Chikorita | o okies learner (glad u sed dat) |
| 22:48.49 | brlcad | dang he's good :) |
| 22:48.50 | Chikorita | umm |
| 22:49.03 | Chikorita | lol yay Ches |
| 22:49.11 | patlabor221 | #8 -> pizza deliverd into a classroom. |
| 22:49.23 | Chikorita | heehe i kno |
| 22:49.26 | Chikorita | :x |
| 22:49.29 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 22:49.41 | brlcad | you shoulda been here helping me an hour ago chika ;) |
| 22:49.52 | Chestal | I have actualyl seen #7, but that must have been 18 years ago or so |
| 22:49.59 | JBDiGriz | He won't have seen #8 either. That's an American classic. |
| 22:50.01 | patlabor221 | is it that old? |
| 22:50.02 | Chikorita | brlcad: :) |
| 22:50.08 | Chestal | pizza -> classroom does not ring a bell at all |
| 22:50.08 | patlabor221 | maybe not |
| 22:50.21 | patlabor221 | sean penn |
| 22:50.35 | Chikorita | high skool classroom |
| 22:52.07 | Chikorita | F.T.A.R.H. |
| 22:52.09 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 22:52.33 | patlabor221 | once you give him an actor he can find it |
| 22:52.34 | Chikorita | kinda long title |
| 22:52.35 | patlabor221 | he's smart |
| 22:52.41 | patlabor221 | and he has IMDB |
| 22:52.44 | Chikorita | heh |
| 22:52.52 | Chikorita | he searching |
| 22:52.52 | Chestal | well, ok, with that hint it was easy |
| 22:52.54 | Chestal | but never heard of it |
| 22:53.06 | Chestal | lot of strange movies this time which noone outside of the US would watch .-9 |
| 22:53.27 | JBDiGriz | more American "culture" (and I use that term in a non-flattering way) |
| 22:53.30 | Chikorita | so u got dem all now Ches? |
| 22:53.45 | Chestal | not #2 |
| 22:53.47 | Chikorita | o |
| 22:53.50 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 22:54.00 | patlabor221 | #2 was the one we could not get here, jbd helped |
| 22:54.08 | Chikorita | o i kno numba 2 |
| 22:54.39 | JBDiGriz | Most people haven't seen #2. I'm surprised because it has a really talented actor. |
| 22:54.42 | Chikorita | itz bout a prep skool |
| 22:55.10 | Chikorita | kinda like da movie "ded poets society " buh wif dat actor from In an Out |
| 22:55.27 | Chikorita | o no wait... |
| 22:55.28 | brlcad | there were lots of 80's american pop culture classics this round |
| 22:55.31 | Chikorita | im worng |
| 22:55.34 | Chikorita | i tink |
| 22:55.35 | Chikorita | :P |
| 22:55.53 | brlcad | 5 in fact |
| 22:56.31 | Chestal | need a better hint on #2 |
| 22:56.41 | Chikorita | iz dat kevin kline in #2? |
| 22:56.43 | brlcad | 2002 |
| 22:57.06 | Chestal | hmm, I have watched most worthwhiel movies from the most recent years, at least those who made it to the big screen in Germany |
| 22:57.25 | JBDiGriz | It should have made it to the big screen in Germany. Chika has it. |
| 22:58.34 | Chikorita | yay i guesed right :D |
| 22:58.35 | Chestal | ok, got #2, but didn't make it to Germany |
| 22:59.10 | brlcad | the WWW hint was a good one in hindsight |
| 23:00.04 | JBDiGriz | Kevin Kline has done so many great roles, why would you pick one of his worst? |
| 23:00.58 | brlcad | they turned on the big marketing machine for that one, is the only reason |
| 23:01.32 | Chikorita | heehe yay yay i fed Dyada b4 he could puke on mee |
| 23:01.46 | brlcad | heh |
| 23:02.06 | JBDiGriz | chiko, what's that on your shirt? |
| 23:03.06 | Chikorita | LoL nuh uh |
| 23:03.20 | Chikorita | he missed an it splatta on u Jaybee LoL |
| 23:03.26 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 23:03.36 | Chikorita | ibot: botsnack |
| 23:03.36 | | Chikorita: thanks |
| 23:03.39 | Chikorita | yw |
| 23:03.42 | brlcad | ~botsmack |
| 23:03.43 | | sure, wanna snort some with me? |
| 23:03.44 | Chestal | well, I hope that next week's invisibles will be more to my appeal |
| 23:04.13 | Chestal | they could make an issue with European Arthosue only, or maybe only Japanese films or something |
| 23:04.54 | patlabor221 | all anime one, that would be funny :) |
| 23:05.00 | JBDiGriz | or at least films that make it into world wide distribution. |
| 23:05.16 | JBDiGriz | pat, how could you tell one from another :-P |
| 23:05.22 | patlabor221 | you can |
| 23:05.39 | Chestal | a scaring fact for Porky straight from imdb: As of mid-1999, this is *still* the highest-grossing movie from Canada. |
| 23:05.49 | patlabor221 | damn |
| 23:06.39 | brlcad | wow |
| 23:06.49 | brlcad | and I would have picked strange brew :) |
| 23:07.28 | Chikorita | pat would get all da anime 1's easily ;) |
| 23:07.37 | JBDiGriz | Where's bzgirl to defend her country's honor? |
| 23:08.45 | patlabor221 | there is a lot of anime I have not seen |
| 23:09.01 | patlabor221 | I tend to watch the same types of anime as I do real movies |
| 23:09.30 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 23:09.36 | JBDiGriz | Anime has an equivalent of Porky's? ;-) |
| 23:09.43 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 23:09.46 | Chikorita | bbl |
| 23:09.47 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:10.04 | patlabor221 | GoldenBoy |
| 23:11.13 | patlabor221 | for every live action Genre, there are animes |
| 23:12.28 | JBDiGriz | What's the anime equivalent of Blazing Saddles? |
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| 23:14.13 | patlabor221 | zany comedy? or western humor specificly? |
| 23:14.33 | JBDiGriz | humorous parody of another genre |
| 23:14.48 | patlabor221 | Excell saga would do that |
| 23:14.55 | patlabor221 | Otaku no video |
| 23:17.16 | patlabor221 | excell saga is very bizare. |
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| 23:17.34 | patlabor221 | Project A-ko would be a parody as well |
| 23:17.53 | patlabor221 | of bas scifi/superhero movies |
| 23:18.05 | JBDiGriz | Comments on imdb indicate that i need an appreciation of anime before watching otaku no video |
| 23:18.14 | patlabor221 | yes you do |
| 23:18.19 | patlabor221 | it's a parody of anime |
| 23:18.21 | patlabor221 | :) |
| 23:18.47 | patlabor221 | it's basicly the sotry of one companys creation, as told as if it was a comedic anime |
| 23:19.25 | patlabor221 | again, all people should start with cowboy beebop |
| 23:19.50 | patlabor221 | it sounds good dubed, and has very good stories |
| 23:21.43 | patlabor221 | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213338/ |
| 23:22.30 | JBDiGriz | I found it. I'm not sure if I'll find time to watch it, but I'll remember the name. ;-) |
| 23:23.03 | patlabor221 | it's very very good |
| 23:23.11 | patlabor221 | and the music is great |
| 23:23.18 | patlabor221 | most of it's jazz |
| 23:26.15 | patlabor221 | there was even a movie, and it had a theatrical release here. |
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| 23:47.03 | ravenouswolf | any admins here? |
| 23:47.05 | ravenouswolf | we need an admin on xmission |
| 23:47.07 | ravenouswolf | FAST |
| 23:47.09 | ravenouswolf | some damned TK on there right now |
| 23:47.11 | ravenouswolf | nhey learner |
| 23:47.26 | learner | howdy |
| 23:47.37 | ravenouswolf | hey elfie |
| 23:47.50 | ravenouswolf | must not be here |
| 23:48.04 | ravenouswolf | well, i hope someone sees this |
| 23:48.11 | ravenouswolf | his name is jizzum |
| 23:48.19 | ravenouswolf | a notorious tk on xmission |
| 23:48.21 | ravenouswolf | please ban him |
| 23:48.27 | ravenouswolf | see ya'll later |
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| 23:50.54 | JBDiGriz | Tim has created a few more admins, but he's being very careful |
| 23:51.38 | learner | had a problem in the past? |
| 23:51.59 | JBDiGriz | I don't know the history. |
| 23:52.50 | patlabor221 | more of an apathy thing then a carefull thing. tho I don't know why he just dosn't do registrations |
