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| 00:32.23 | asdf_home | hello guys |
| 00:34.42 | asdf_home | ibot - hi |
| 00:34.42 | | what's up |
| 00:34.54 | asdf_home | ibot - who is here? |
| 00:34.55 | | I think you lost me on that one, asdf_home |
| 00:35.06 | asdf_home | ibot - who is asdf |
| 00:35.07 | | asdf_home: what are you talking about? |
| 00:35.17 | asdf_home | ibot - who is chestal? |
| 00:35.17 | | asdf_home: I think you lost me on that one |
| 00:35.23 | asdf_home | ibot - who are you? |
| 00:35.24 | | asdf_home: I think you lost me on that one |
| 00:35.39 | asdf_home | ibot - what are the rules? |
| 00:35.40 | | asdf_home: I think you lost me on that one |
| 00:35.49 | asdf_home | ibot - help |
| 00:35.49 | | asdf_home: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 01:59.40 | captain_proton | 'allo learner |
| 01:59.48 | learner | 'owdy |
| 02:03.37 | learner | any new word on our timeline for release? |
| 02:03.51 | learner | are we weeks/days/or months close? |
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| 03:43.06 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Roger tries to jump on boxes to chase opponents |
| 03:58.24 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (6 files in 4 dirs): get maxLod into the bzdb properly |
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| 04:31.19 | MrApathyCream | hey spiffy |
| 04:32.54 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): Roger uses better shot selection |
| 04:33.29 | Spiff | Hiya ApathyCream. :-) |
| 04:33.34 | Spiff | It's been ages. |
| 04:35.15 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 04:44.33 | Spiff | We used to frag eachother at Turkey sometimes.. hehe. :-) |
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| 04:48.28 | Chikorita | hi peeple :) |
| 04:48.39 | Spiff | Hiya Chik. :-D |
| 04:49.00 | Chikorita | heehe hey spiff :D |
| 04:49.17 | Chikorita | <<readin news-of-da-weird articles |
| 04:49.33 | Chikorita | dere iz dis weird weird story |
| 04:50.37 | Chikorita | ERIE, Pa. (Sept. 1) - A man found dead at his home Sunday was a friend and co-worker of a bank robber who died in a bizarre incident three days earlier. |
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| 04:51.02 | Spiff | That bites. |
| 04:51.04 | Spiff | LoL |
| 04:51.09 | Chikorita | woah dat was 2 much info LoL sowee |
| 04:51.25 | Spiff | It's all good. I'm sure IRC doesn't really care. ;) |
| 04:51.58 | Chikorita | yea wee prolly da only 1's here , da rest of da bz peeps r loitering LoL |
| 04:52.35 | Spiff | Or in bed... hehehe. |
| 04:54.34 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 04:55.24 | Chikorita | so did u read da story? |
| 04:55.59 | Spiff | It only showed like three lines of it... :( |
| 04:56.06 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 04:56.34 | Chikorita | k i sent da rest in PM |
| 04:56.38 | Chikorita | read it itz freakyy weird =-O |
| 04:57.14 | Chikorita | weird weird peeps ...no wonder y itz called Eerie ,PA. |
| 04:57.23 | Spiff | LoL! |
| 04:57.30 | Spiff | This reporting bites! *snicker* |
| 04:57.36 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:57.43 | Spiff | I read an article like this in a local paper once.... |
| 04:57.59 | Spiff | They went through the whole thing of how the police kicked a door down, arrested this person, etc... |
| 04:58.08 | Spiff | And never told what they were charged with! LoL |
| 04:59.09 | Chikorita | uhuh |
| 04:59.36 | Spiff | Funny stuff. :) |
| 05:00.00 | Chikorita | buh dis story iz weird cuz like he went 2 deliver a pizza an sum1 put a bomb on him instead an force him 2 robb a bank |
| 05:00.13 | Spiff | LoL |
| 05:00.19 | Spiff | Totally hilarious. :-) |
| 05:00.21 | Chikorita | iznt dat crazee? |
| 05:00.22 | Spiff | But sorta sick. LoL |
| 05:00.55 | Chikorita | he blowed up 2 ...told da police he didnt have any time left ..an dey were like whaa? |
| 05:01.09 | Chikorita | o wel |
| 05:01.20 | Chikorita | kinda like dat otha weird story i read bout |
| 05:01.24 | Spiff | Pfff. Okay... now I'm going to find something happy to read... LoL. |
| 05:02.07 | Chikorita | dis guy he woke up in a bathtub an he was all blood an hooked up 2 sum tubes an he read an da mirror dat he had lil time left 2 live |
| 05:02.32 | Chikorita | cuz dey took hiz kidneys an betta call da hospital b4 u die =-O |
| 05:02.54 | Spiff | Ack. LoL |
| 05:03.21 | Spiff | Hmm. Ever play Yahoo games? |
| 05:03.58 | Chikorita | he got drunk at a bar earlier dat nite an dis girl gave him a drugged drink an he fell asleep an while he sleepin dese guyz stole hiz kidneys 2 sell on da black market organ transplant |
| 05:04.05 | Chikorita | yahoo pool |
| 05:04.26 | Chikorita | an i play pogo pool too |
| 05:04.33 | Spiff | OoO.. that one's fun. I'm a Word Racer geek. |
| 05:04.35 | Chikorita | im really good at pool :) |
| 05:04.42 | Spiff | OoOoO... wanna play? ;-) |
| 05:04.59 | Chikorita | k ...pogo pool? |
| 05:05.11 | Spiff | What's pogo pool? Is it sorta new? |
| 05:05.36 | Chikorita | pogo . itz been around |
| 05:05.41 | Chikorita | o i c |
| 05:06.02 | Chikorita | yea i go back 2 AIMs an link ya 2 da table im at ,k? |
| 05:06.26 | Spiff | Okies... but I hafta go pick sum stuff up for muh mom. I'll be back in like 10 or so. Okies? :-) |
| 05:06.44 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 05:06.47 | Spiff | C-ya in a lil' bit. :-D |
| 05:06.52 | Chikorita | do u drive spiff? |
| 05:06.53 | Spiff | I'll leave AIM on. |
| 05:06.57 | Spiff | Yep. |
| 05:07.01 | Spiff | Of course. 0:) |
| 05:07.11 | Chikorita | wow kinda late 2 go out buh okies |
| 05:07.16 | Chikorita | O:) |
| 05:07.20 | Spiff | Hehehe. Only midnight. ;) |
| 05:07.23 | Spiff | Brb. :D |
| 05:08.18 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 05:22.56 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen_captain_proton? |
| 05:22.56 | | I believe he mentioned going out to buy a valentine's gift for his sweetums. |
| 05:23.07 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:23.28 | MrApathyCream | ibot that smells to be about 2 years old |
| 05:23.29 | | no idea, MrApathyCream |
| 05:23.41 | scanline | if by buying a valentine's gift for you mean playing games on, and by sweetums you mean N64, then yes |
| 05:25.52 | MrApathyCream | yah, yah, that's what i meant |
| 05:26.03 | scanline | ok |
| 05:28.24 | MrApathyCream | ibot purple_cow? |
| 05:28.25 | | MrApathyCream: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 05:28.39 | MrApathyCream | ibot, no |
| 05:28.40 | | YES |
| 05:43.17 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): doc sending msg to robots |
| 05:44.21 | MrApathyCream | scans, you alive? |
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| 06:08.51 | JBDiGriz | ~d |
| 06:09.27 | JBDiGriz | That's not ramstein on ducati. Someone is stealing names and tk'ing. |
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| 10:16.46 | Chestal | tag |
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| 11:05.54 | learner | tag |
| 11:06.20 | fiberchunks | morgen |
| 11:06.43 | learner | woa, isn't this a bit early for you? :) |
| 11:06.57 | fiberchunks | just woke up -- don't piss me off ;) |
| 11:07.10 | learner | lol, I know what you mean |
| 11:08.25 | fiberchunks | oh, how it would be were I a morning person |
| 11:08.28 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 11:12.04 | learner | I'm going to try to shift back me schedule to appease that "core hour" bullshite |
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| 11:55.09 | fiberchunks | hey hey -- anyone use xchat for windows in here? |
| 11:55.31 | fiberchunks | some of my buddies want to do IRC with me, but since they all use windows, I have no idea what client to recommend |
| 11:57.19 | fiberchunks | I suppose I should set up one of my old boxen strictly for windows bullshit :\ |
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| 12:14.19 | drinian | fiberchunks: Mozilla has Chatzilla which I use regularly. |
| 12:15.25 | fiberchunks | yah? well that's cool |
| 12:15.34 | fiberchunks | I also notice that aim has a chat plugin |
| 12:15.50 | drinian | Hmmm...I didn't know that. |
| 12:16.07 | drinian | If you give them Mozilla, then they'll have a great browser too. |
| 12:16.34 | drinian | Anything but IE! |
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| 12:37.53 | fiberchunks | indeed - I just sent them an email illuminating the joys of openoffice, and mozilla (to start with, anyway) |
| 12:40.22 | fiberchunks | I wish that gimp was up to photoshops standards (UI wise, at least), and some of the more 'common' windows apps were replicated for linux |
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| 14:15.07 | brlcad | mornin' cappy |
| 14:15.45 | captain_proton | mornin' |
| 14:16.50 | captain_proton | (so damn early) |
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| 15:07.09 | Chikorita | ~d |
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| 15:13.44 | brlcad | lilo is noisy today :) |
| 15:15.27 | brlcad | and #bzflag is quite quiet |
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| 15:40.48 | Chikorita | hello any ducati admins here? |
| 15:40.55 | Chikorita | ludek iz teamkillin mee |
| 15:40.57 | Chikorita | :( |
| 15:40.59 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 15:41.31 | Chikorita | iz ludek an admin? |
| 15:41.33 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 15:41.45 | Chikorita | i wonder who ludek iz .. |
| 15:42.15 | david_v | i'm in there |
| 15:42.28 | Chikorita | he was TKin mee ..or huntin mee |
| 15:42.46 | Chikorita | u'll c , i'll go back in |
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| 15:54.21 | Chikorita | davy :) |
| 15:55.15 | david_v | Chikorita: http://www.3dgamers.com/games/wolfensteinet/ |
| 15:55.22 | david_v | yah yah :) |
| 15:55.25 | Chikorita | thnx davy :) |
| 15:55.30 | david_v | np |
| 15:55.40 | Chikorita | wish mee luck i go find mee teamie Mayhem |
| 15:55.59 | Chikorita | i hope i dunt lose meeself 2 |
| 15:56.07 | david_v | k |
| 15:56.21 | Chikorita | do u kno wut callsign he uses there? an wut server he plays on? |
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| 15:57.04 | david_v | "Mayhem" (before anyway), either on uber1337.co.uk, gaming.34sp.com, or some others that i don't recall right now |
| 15:57.16 | david_v | but those are usually busy, so he might be using some other servers |
| 15:57.19 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 15:57.48 | david_v | brb |
| 15:57.53 | Chikorita | mee2 brb |
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| 16:12.37 | Chikorita | ibot: botsnack |
| 16:12.37 | | aw, gee, Chikorita |
| 16:12.44 | Chikorita | :) |
| 16:13.20 | Chikorita | ibot remindz mee of my neopet |
| 16:13.20 | | wish i knew, Chikorita |
| 16:13.23 | david_v | ibot: stop scaring people |
| 16:13.24 | | david_v: wish i knew |
| 16:13.29 | Chikorita | lol |
| 16:14.03 | Chikorita | ~Hello Kitty |
| 16:14.03 | | methinks hello kitty is da newest member of team BzRebels |
| 16:14.09 | Chikorita | uh huh |
| 16:14.13 | Chikorita | ~Mayhem |
| 16:14.14 | | rumour has it, mayhem is on BzR and is a really nice guy |
| 16:14.19 | Chikorita | k |
| 16:14.28 | Chikorita | ~evil chicken nugget |
| 16:14.29 | | evil chicken nugget is, like, the Rebel League Administrator and team member of BzR |
| 16:14.35 | Chikorita | yup |
| 16:14.38 | Chikorita | ~learner |
| 16:14.39 | | learner is, like, your friend |
| 16:14.43 | david_v | ~david |
| 16:14.45 | Chikorita | ~Chikorita |
| 16:14.46 | | extra, extra, read all about it, chikorita is da team captain of BzRebels . |
| 16:14.51 | Chikorita | ~greg |
| 16:14.52 | | Framework for testing other programs and libraries. URL: http://www.gnu.org/software/greg/ |
| 16:14.55 | david_v | how did that get there? :) |
| 16:14.56 | Chikorita | oops |
| 16:15.30 | david_v | ibot: david is an undefined Linux geek |
| 16:15.31 | | okay, david_v |
| 16:15.34 | david_v | ~david |
| 16:15.35 | | david is probably an undefined Linux geek |
| 16:15.49 | david_v | now that i think of it, how many use that name? :) |
| 16:16.06 | Chikorita | ibot: greg1 is da second team member 2 join BzRebels, so he iz very special 2 Chikorita :) |
| 16:16.06 | | okay, Chikorita |
| 16:16.12 | Chikorita | ~greg1 |
| 16:16.13 | | greg1 is, like, da second team member 2 join BzRebels, so he iz very special 2 Chikorita :) |
| 16:16.24 | david_v | where'd that "like" come from lol |
| 16:16.31 | david_v | he speaks too authentically :) |
| 16:16.35 | Chikorita | greg uses da name "greg1" sumtimes too |
| 16:16.49 | Chikorita | nlol davy |
| 16:17.00 | Chikorita | ibutt iz a valley bot girl ;) |
| 16:18.14 | Chikorita | she speaks like totally radical words totally |
| 16:18.16 | Chikorita | awesum |
| 16:18.21 | Chikorita | kewlness heehe |
| 16:18.39 | Chikorita | like 4 sure |
| 16:18.53 | Chikorita | like omg |
| 16:18.57 | Chikorita | :D |
| 16:19.00 | david_v | hmm k i get it :) |
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| 16:19.46 | Chikorita | wut da heck man |
| 16:19.47 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 16:19.50 | Chikorita | j/k |
| 16:20.00 | Chikorita | :P |
| 16:20.07 | Chikorita | im silly |
| 16:34.26 | brlcad | hi, chika |
| 16:35.32 | Chikorita | learnerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 16:35.34 | Chikorita | :D |
| 16:36.05 | brlcad | how's my favorite chikums doing? |
| 16:36.09 | Chikorita | gimme a ride ;) |
| 16:36.18 | Chikorita | heehe i doin okay |
| 16:36.24 | Chikorita | yay yay |
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| 16:36.47 | Chikorita | how was ur holiday weekend? |
| 16:36.53 | Chikorita | did u go 2 wva? |
| 16:37.13 | brlcad | indeed I did |
| 16:37.24 | brlcad | had a great time |
| 16:37.27 | Chikorita | kewl |
| 16:37.47 | Chikorita | wva iz a great place 4 mt. bking |
| 16:38.00 | Chikorita | an raftin |
| 16:39.19 | Chikorita | dey r playin wif text-to-speech converters in da ProXs room , heehe Jaybee made mee sound like a Gollum |
| 16:40.32 | JBDiGriz | But now you sound like a Ralph. :^) |
| 16:40.55 | Chikorita | da precious ..it came to mee ...my own ..my love ...my ...preciouss |
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| 16:41.19 | Chikorita | heehe Ralph Chikorita |
| 16:42.18 | Chikorita | hmm wut would a "ralph" say? |
| 16:43.33 | Chikorita | hey how bout dem Broncos ...think they'll go all da way dis year? *snika* |
| 16:43.37 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 16:46.08 | Chikorita | learner do u have dat text to speech proggy too? |
| 16:46.27 | brlcad | macs have that ability built in |
| 16:46.53 | Chikorita | can u turn up ur speaka volume high , okies? |
| 16:47.10 | brlcad | hehe, okay :) |
| 16:47.23 | Chikorita | MY BOSS IZ A POOPHEAD! GIMME A RAISE ! |
| 16:47.31 | Chikorita | LOL |
| 16:48.01 | Chikorita | j/k |
| 16:48.15 | Chikorita | heehe i hope he didnt hear dat ;) |
| 16:48.19 | brlcad | hehe, the synthesizer did not like that :) |
| 16:49.07 | JBDiGriz | I have the headphones plugged in, nobody around here is listening to you besides me ;^) |
| 16:50.16 | brlcad | yes.. but can it speak the smilies properly :) |
| 16:50.16 | Chikorita | I AM DA BEST EMPLOYEE PROMOTE MEE |
| 16:50.55 | brlcad | hrm.. can't seem to change the services voice off of victoria |
| 16:51.03 | Chikorita | lol c learner can do da smilies jaybee |
| 16:51.11 | JBDiGriz | System Preferences:Speech |
| 16:52.04 | brlcad | jb: yes.. I've set it there, but the AppMenu->Services->Speech->Start speaking text now option seems to insist on victoria |
| 16:52.41 | Chikorita | so wee all sound like a "voctoria"? |
| 16:52.47 | Chikorita | victoria* |
| 16:53.28 | brlcad | I'll have to try that client when I get home :) - it'd be great if I could assign voices to different people :D |
| 16:53.51 | Chikorita | dahling u really should do something about that problem o dear *snika* |
| 16:53.57 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 16:55.07 | brlcad | heh, that sounded really good except for the "snika" :) |
| 16:55.27 | Chikorita | i was jus tellin da ProXs peepz dat it would b xtra kewl if sumhow u could sample da real persons voice an den have da converter replicate it |
| 16:56.28 | Chikorita | like record da voice pattern an stuff |
| 16:58.39 | Chikorita | heehe guess wut |
| 16:59.29 | bryjen | ~weather kowb |
| 16:59.30 | Chikorita | i was lookin outside mah office window an i saw a yello mini coopa drive by |
| 16:59.42 | Chikorita | dey r such cute lil cars |
| 17:01.09 | bryjen | hmm, no rain gauge. or maybe the downpour earlier busted it. |
| 17:01.12 | Chikorita | ~weather annp |
| 17:02.02 | JBDiGriz | sorry, i was taken away to do real work for a sec. Prefs:Speech:Default Voice should change all of that |
| 17:02.13 | Chikorita | ~weather khgr |
| 17:02.45 | brlcad | I strolled around that outlet mall in hagerstown on my way back |
| 17:03.08 | Chikorita | o yea? |
| 17:03.25 | Chikorita | dat iz a good outlet mall |
| 17:03.29 | Nidhoggr | hrm average number of players on the server over 1 week, sampled every 5 minutes, is 9. |
| 17:04.12 | Chikorita | mah fav store iz da J crew an Gap store |
| 17:04.37 | Chikorita | did u go thru frederick any L? |
| 17:04.53 | brlcad | erp -- meeting time, cya |
| 17:05.07 | Chikorita | o okies byes L have fun in da meetin |
| 17:06.02 | Chikorita | hmm itz not really clear here ,,, actually itz hella cloudy |
| 17:06.40 | Chikorita | ~d |
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| 17:38.29 | captain_proton | thanks scanline |
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| 18:25.42 | gonk{work} | patlabor221: you have more PCI slots than AGP slots :) |
| 18:26.45 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 18:27.11 | patlabor221 | but for a primary? it'll never get all the data it can handle, and you'll flood the bus. |
| 18:28.15 | patlabor221 | but I guess it just goes to show the knowlege of the people who by compaqs |
| 18:30.21 | brlcad | Mmm.. multi-displays |
| 18:30.48 | patlabor221 | well yeah, but you can do 2 on a single card these days |
| 18:31.23 | brlcad | sure -- dual in the agp, and pci for N*2 more :) |
| 18:31.30 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 18:31.36 | Bagheera | sure, if you are buying a card with two displays......or for $50 you can pick up the card of the moment |
| 18:31.57 | patlabor221 | most cards these days come with dual head by default bags |
| 18:32.11 | brlcad | yea, single cards are still cheaper -- get a beefy one for agp and then whatever for displays 2, 3, 4, etc :) |
| 18:32.13 | Bagheera | not mine, not the ones i was looking at |
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| 18:32.37 | patlabor221 | my GF4 TI 4600, and the FX5200 all did |
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| 18:32.43 | patlabor221 | and I wasn't looking for dual head |
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| 18:32.59 | patlabor221 | any nvidia with a DVI conector will do dual head |
| 18:33.40 | Bagheera | what if you have a graphics card you like, and are just looking for a second................why replace it? |
| 18:33.42 | patlabor221 | tho if you send a lot of stuff to the PCI card, I've had it stutter the sound card cus of bandwith issues. |
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| 18:34.00 | patlabor221 | sure that's fine, my point was PCI for the primary. |
| 18:34.23 | patlabor221 | why put a 5200 in there when a MX200 or something will work the same. |
| 18:34.34 | brlcad | so great -- then buy a dual nvidia for primary and pci becomes secondary; you get triple displays for a decent price |
| 18:34.53 | patlabor221 | I agree |
| 18:34.58 | patlabor221 | if you have 3 nice monitors |
| 18:35.06 | brlcad | you don't?? |
| 18:35.11 | Bagheera | hahah |
| 18:35.11 | brlcad | hehe |
| 18:35.15 | dheckaman | heh |
| 18:35.28 | brlcad | shame on you |
| 18:35.39 | brlcad | you shouldn't be buying a new computer -- you need more monitors :) |
| 18:35.40 | patlabor221 | I'm mostly just ranting about the guy who poste about putin a 5200 PCI in his crapy compaq |
| 18:35.45 | Bagheera | i would like a small montior just for email....that would be nice |
| 18:35.54 | patlabor221 | who said I was geting a new macine |
| 18:36.10 | patlabor221 | I cna't really have 3 here, no enough room in the cube |
| 18:36.18 | Bagheera | probably that is what he has quick access to........he is probably not internet shopping |
| 18:36.32 | Bagheera | none of the stores are carrying the older cards...... |
| 18:36.39 | patlabor221 | that's my point, he didn't think |
| 18:36.47 | Bagheera | at least the ones i have been to lately |
| 18:36.57 | patlabor221 | now when he updates his machine, that card is still gonna be gimped |
| 18:37.10 | Bagheera | well, if he is a kid, he might be "allowed" to internet shop |
| 18:37.17 | patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 18:37.37 | patlabor221 | the funnyest thing I foudn was he said "nothing would use a FX5900 with 256megs of ram" |
| 18:37.54 | brlcad | well, at least his card won't be the limiter -- nothing wrong with that |
| 18:37.59 | patlabor221 | cus you know 640k is enough |
| 18:38.25 | patlabor221 | well his bus to the card will be his limiter, that's what I find sad, the chips just gonna sit there waiting for data that never comes. |
| 18:38.34 | Bagheera | never seen a metric for that.......would be interesting to see how much my CAD programs eat up |
| 18:38.56 | brlcad | right, but he has that problem anyways -- so why _not_ make the bug the limiter |
| 18:38.59 | patlabor221 | cad will use all the CPU, but probably not the ram |
| 18:38.59 | brlcad | er, bus |
| 18:39.46 | brlcad | at least until he gets a newer machine; and that's a fair bit more money |
| 18:39.49 | Bagheera | speaking of which, why is GDSII such an expensive format..........dang, try and find a cheap GDSII editor that can handle layers.......ug |
| 18:39.52 | patlabor221 | tho the FX is not well suited for CAD as it draws lines rather slowly. |
| 18:40.19 | patlabor221 | the quadro 4's are better for cad, they have better GL line drawing hardware. |
| 18:40.29 | Bagheera | use GL2 at work for the CAD stuff, at home, i really dont notice a problem............but the tool is slow to begin with. |
| 18:41.01 | patlabor221 | the FX cards are more about shaders then anything else, they don't even have the greatest fill rates. |
| 18:41.33 | Bagheera | they work as well as the GL2......thats all i need...... |
| 18:42.52 | Bagheera | hey, i also noticed your commment on CPU limited.............???.........were you talking about trying to get frame rates over 140?.....or just in general |
| 18:47.15 | patlabor221 | in general |
| 18:47.21 | patlabor221 | those 3 cards are very difrent |
| 18:47.28 | patlabor221 | but they get the same frame rate |
| 18:48.47 | patlabor221 | gotta go |
| 18:49.15 | brlcad | hope you havea better day ranty ;) |
| 18:50.32 | Bagheera | :} |
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| 19:06.38 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): fix -solo robots changing team when new rabbit is declared |
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| 19:08.23 | KTL_ | s/is/are/ |
| 19:09.46 | KTL_ | s/numer/number/ |
| 19:17.09 | Bagheera | you should look at some of the older maps, and some that are not in play anymore............madcity is nice, but not on my greatest map list. |
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| 19:23.14 | brlcad | decks |
| 19:23.45 | JBDiGriz | I can't believe you like a map which requires jumping tanks. |
| 19:23.59 | brlcad | i know, it's astounding |
| 19:24.13 | brlcad | but jumping isn't required |
| 19:24.53 | JBDiGriz | You need to jump to access 75% of the map |
| 19:24.56 | brlcad | and I don't tend to see a lot of the blind "bunny-escape" tactics on that map |
| 19:25.30 | brlcad | it's also flagless, which helps |
| 19:25.41 | JBDiGriz | That's not a function of the map. |
| 19:25.46 | brlcad | true |
| 19:26.02 | brlcad | but helps my mental reasoning contrary to the jumping factor :) |
| 19:26.52 | Bagheera | call me peter-cotton-tail |
| 19:27.04 | JBDiGriz | I think bunny hunt is a pretty good map for non-jumping. Most of the field is accessible with some interesting rico and hiding areas. |
| 19:28.21 | Bagheera | hey all, i think patlab. is having a bad day..........his forum reply on the graphics card issue is a little tense. someone buy him a beer the next time through. |
| 19:28.53 | brlcad | shame on him |
| 19:31.15 | Bagheera | so back to the bunny tank syndrome........really, shouldnt we call these things hovercraft or something..........or mechs........ |
| 19:33.48 | Bagheera | ?little problem? |
| 19:34.01 | brlcad | ?just discovered? |
| 19:34.06 | KTL_ | the bandwidth usage seams high :-) |
| 19:34.27 | KTL_ | budget ... |
| 19:34.30 | KTL_ | money... |
| 19:34.32 | KTL_ | :-) |
| 19:34.40 | KTL_ | s/seams/seems/ |
| 19:35.03 | brlcad | it has lots of seams :) |
| 19:35.16 | brlcad | leaking packets left and right |
| 19:35.20 | KTL_ | ieks |
| 19:35.40 | Bagheera | duct tape doesnt help? |
| 19:35.56 | KTL_ | normally that solves everything... |
| 19:36.02 | KTL_ | must try |
| 19:36.26 | JBDiGriz | I seem to lose a lot of packets. And them I have to vacuum them off the floor. ☺ |
| 19:37.09 | KTL_ | i hope somebody takes a photo of that |
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| 19:38.56 | KTL_ | (that's what KTL is doing all the time while he is playing) |
| 19:38.58 | KTL_ | ah ! |
| 19:39.05 | KTL_ | bzdoug_: the spirals map |
| 19:39.22 | KTL_ | PLEASE MAKE THE UPPER FLOOR SMALLER! |
| 19:39.26 | KTL_ | less thick |
| 19:39.41 | KTL_ | because i really can't get a camping Xtra from the roof |
| 19:39.56 | KTL_ | he was camping there for more then half an hour |
| 19:40.11 | KTL_ | (at once) |
| 19:40.28 | KTL_ | (the same game i managed to get him of some times, but he came back) |
| 19:41.07 | KTL_ | if the roof changes an st or laser can get him by jumping against it |
| 19:41.13 | KTL_ | (the bzflag bug) |
| 19:42.45 | JBDiGriz | Last night, someone came into ducati playing with the callsign "Ramstein (USD)", but this guy was a teamkiller, and taking his flag to the other side of the field. |
| 19:43.23 | brlcad | i saw that -- even took the effort to get the team right |
| 19:43.29 | KTL_ | if i play blue in the spirals it happens that red players infiltrate to shoot me |
| 19:45.15 | KTL_ | what er the greatest maps? if it isn't the hashmark one? (mad city but modified) |
| 19:45.23 | KTL_ | s/er/are/ |
| 19:45.37 | JBDiGriz | It depends on the game you want to play. |
| 19:46.07 | brlcad | and your rules and how you qualify "great" |
| 19:46.13 | KTL_ | not the strict games with almost no bullets no flags no jumping |
| 19:46.27 | KTL_ | (used the word from here above) |
| 19:46.30 | KTL_ | euhm |
| 19:46.32 | KTL_ | intelligent |
| 19:46.50 | JBDiGriz | I happen to like the single shot ffa games on a difficult map (e.g. decks) |
| 19:46.55 | KTL_ | something with the permissions of happypinguin or hashmark |
| 19:47.12 | brlcad | that would be "classic" style :) |
| 19:47.17 | KTL_ | I get bit bored there:-) |
| 19:47.37 | brlcad | sure.. they take more skill :) |
| 19:47.46 | KTL_ | yes, but more time too |
| 19:48.01 | KTL_ | like the pyramid, djee monumental but i never see somebody |
| 19:48.03 | JBDiGriz | There was a late night game with all the developers, and a few others which had to be one of the most memorable games I played. |
| 19:48.13 | KTL_ | fun |
| 19:48.58 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (2 files): -solo robots dead zones, around building, removed. Robot now run freely |
| 19:49.22 | brlcad | that was a great game |
| 19:49.24 | KTL_ | mmm pathfinding? |
| 19:49.32 | KTL_ | what map?:-) |
| 19:50.12 | JBDiGriz | single shot ffa decks |
| 19:50.21 | Tupone | pathfinding now works good - not too much effort |
| 19:50.30 | Tupone | just fixing things |
| 19:50.47 | KTL_ | i had a problem with my bot when i wanted to let it jump... |
| 19:50.55 | KTL_ | there was no jump command for the robots |
| 19:51.06 | KTL_ | so i use the one from the human player |
| 19:51.09 | Tupone | For roger - you got |
| 19:51.48 | brlcad | KTL_: according the the players that have been around for a long time, decks used to be rather popular |
| 19:52.36 | KTL_ | http://users.pandora.be/dpf/bzWorlds/index.html |
| 19:52.49 | KTL_ | spacedecks and waterdecks |
| 19:53.20 | KTL_ | mmm, i don't know a map decks |
| 19:55.02 | JBDiGriz | It looks like waterdecks in that selection |
| 19:56.16 | KTL_ | then i know it, with a "circular bunker" |
| 19:56.20 | dheckaman | there is "Decks" |
| 19:56.30 | dheckaman | the OLD Decks... |
| 19:56.36 | dheckaman | played by many |
| 19:59.14 | KTL_ | parking deck war |
| 19:59.21 | Bagheera | i still liked one of the old cell.unm.edu maps.......one of gerbils better efforts |
| 19:59.41 | Bagheera | maybe even monkey was involved |
| 20:00.02 | brlcad | many many monkey butler's at least |
| 20:00.12 | brlcad | er, s/'// |
| 20:01.26 | Bagheera | of course, after a year on chardonney, any non-random map was a plus |
| 20:02.12 | Chestal | can someone explain storedColor in texfont to me? |
| 20:02.49 | JBDiGriz | chestal, can you get any information about players on ducati from last night? |
| 20:03.18 | Chestal | possibly |
| 20:04.39 | JBDiGriz | I don't know if it's worth it, but we have someone impersonating other player's call signs to be a pain. One was impersonating Ramstein and was a real jerk. The other was impersonating Head, but wasn't too bad. Head was there at the time. |
| 20:04.49 | KTL_ | YES ME TOOOO |
| 20:05.27 | Chestal | JBD: if it occurs again, I'll look into it. Too lazy now :-) |
| 20:05.28 | KTL_ | my sign : KTL must destroy ==> KTL must die |
| 20:05.50 | KTL_ | my sign: one play (donf@7gen) ==> one play (dont@7gen) |
| 20:05.51 | Chestal | noone familiar with the ansi color code stuff? somethign is wrong |
| 20:06.16 | brlcad | I've only glanced at it, ches -- who wrote it? |
| 20:06.19 | JBDiGriz | chestal: that's fine, just wanted to make sure you were aware. Thanks ... |
| 20:07.04 | Chestal | I think the question is who decoupled the libs |
| 20:07.08 | purple_cow | KTL_: decks != parking deck war |
| 20:07.19 | purple_cow | decks = the one true map |
| 20:08.09 | brlcad | hehe, I was wondering how long it would take to enwaken the purple cow |
| 20:08.40 | Chestal | TexFont used to access Team to get the colors I think |
| 20:11.01 | Bagheera | purple cows, snow monkeys, fiber chunks,..............at this rate the next call sign will be lavender polka dotted sheep......... |
| 20:11.21 | Chestal | grmpf, I need better CVS management somehow |
| 20:11.44 | JBDiGriz | Don't forget the black panther that's often seen lurking around here. ☺ |
| 20:11.47 | fiberchunks | I am not a dual entity baggy ? |
| 20:11.49 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 20:11.56 | fiberchunks | s/?/. |
| 20:12.46 | KTL_ | ~dict chickmunky |
| 20:12.48 | Bagheera | sry fiber, i needed to make it a trio.......it was you or electric elf...... |
| 20:12.49 | patlabor221 | a female monkey? |
| 20:12.56 | KTL_ | aaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 20:13.03 | KTL_ | a giiiirrrrll!!!!!!! |
| 20:13.07 | KTL_ | alaaarm!!! |
| 20:14.38 | brlcad | settle down boy :) |
| 20:15.12 | patlabor221 | yes, have you not ever seen a female of your species? |
| 20:15.41 | Bagheera | must be an engineering student |
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| 20:15.55 | patlabor221 | or a CS major |
| 20:16.20 | larsl | Chris (IP 67.60.32.136) is killing teammates on xmission. |
| 20:16.29 | KTL_ | :-) |
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| 20:16.46 | KTL_ | s/:-)/aje/ |
| 20:17.07 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/ogl (OpenGLTexFont.cxx): formatting and other minor stuff |
| 20:17.13 | patlabor221 | yup SC major |
| 20:19.45 | KTL_ | (where is the bzflag file supposed to be after compiling (without errors) ??????) |
| 20:19.57 | larsl | KTL_: src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 20:19.59 | patlabor221 | what OS? |
| 20:20.39 | KTL_ | debian |
| 20:20.39 | patlabor221 | then where he said :) |
| 20:20.48 | KTL_ | bzfs is in src/bzfs/bzfs but not bzflag... maybe i overlooked errors ... |
| 20:21.12 | larsl | What happens if you type 'make' in the src/bzflag dir? |
| 20:21.13 | KTL_ | src/bzflag/bzflag doesn't exist yet i mean |
| 20:21.16 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): document col cons bug |
| 20:21.29 | KTL_ | enters all the dirs and leaves them, nothing to be done |
| 20:21.49 | KTL_ | i grepped after err and ERR => nothing |
| 20:22.06 | Tupone | KTL_: GL issue ??? |
| 20:22.35 | Tupone | KTL_: configure has said to you something about GL header missing? |
| 20:23.06 | KTL_ | configure: WARNING: Client build has been requested, but GL is not fully available |
| 20:23.06 | KTL_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.08 | KTL_ | ok:-) |
| 20:23.22 | Tupone | so you need to install some more debian package |
| 20:23.22 | larsl | Sounds like you need GL development packages. |
| 20:24.10 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/include (OpenGLTexFont.h): indentation |
| 20:27.00 | brlcad | that warning should probably be a little more intrusive |
| 20:27.23 | brlcad | i missed it the first couple times too when the "check" it was performning was bogus for my platform |
| 20:28.35 | larsl | Maybe it should be an error instead of an warning, and tell the user to configure with --disable-client if it wants to build the other programs. |
| 20:28.48 | larsl | s/an warning/a warning/ |
| 20:29.24 | larsl | OpenGLTexFont.cxx:749: `cdebug' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 20:29.34 | brlcad | that sounds reasonable, larsl |
| 20:29.40 | larsl | What's that error? |
| 20:30.09 | Chestal | uhm |
| 20:30.44 | Chestal | forgot to erase a line :-9 |
| 20:30.47 | larsl | =) |
| 20:31.03 | Tupone | from TODO: configure should detect missing GL/GLU headers then warn and disable the client compile |
| 20:31.24 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/ogl (OpenGLTexFont.cxx): oops |
| 20:31.48 | larsl | I think there is a nice m4 macro for GL/GLU detection on an autoconf site somewhere. |
| 20:36.22 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): style |
| 20:36.40 | purple_cow | Chestal: did maxlod get stricken from BUGS? |
| 20:37.06 | Chestal | brlcad: hah! it's you! :-) |
| 20:37.37 | Chestal | purple_cow: yes |
| 20:37.46 | Chestal | I wonder whether we realy need it though |
| 20:38.17 | Chestal | it's #2 eval item now (not that I shoudl nec. worry because we might decide to redo the caching) |
| 20:38.25 | Chikorita | x.x |
| 20:38.45 | Chestal | hi Chiko. What was this message about teamkilling? |
| 20:38.58 | Chikorita | oops nevamind |
| 20:39.00 | JBDiGriz | That's very strange, I was using an arrow ☺ |
| 20:39.12 | Chikorita | ignore dat , wee got rid of da TKer already |
| 20:39.32 | Chikorita | hi chestal :) |
| 20:39.39 | *** join/#bzflag luigi (~luigi@3eea6375.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 20:40.01 | Chikorita | ugh i forgot da TKers callsign , i can neva remember dem |
| 20:40.04 | Chikorita | brb |
| 20:40.21 | *** part/#bzflag luigi (~luigi@3eea6375.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 20:41.07 | brlcad | Chestal: eh? what'd i do ? :) |
| 20:42.02 | Chestal | brlcad: do cvs up and read BUGS :-) |
| 20:42.09 | brlcad | uh oh ;) |
| 20:42.18 | Chestal | brlcad: the item about the colored console |
| 20:42.38 | brlcad | lol |
| 20:42.43 | brlcad | that's a "feature" |
| 20:43.07 | Chestal | you stole all the colors |
| 20:43.10 | brlcad | I was asking all around where that sucker actualy gets used to no avail |
| 20:43.25 | Chestal | ehm? |
| 20:43.26 | JBDiGriz | Another "uninitialized data" problem for brlcad ... |
| 20:43.28 | brlcad | there are dozens of references, so it wasn't clear |
| 20:43.36 | brlcad | oh, it's initialized, jb ;) |
| 20:43.38 | brlcad | to white |
| 20:43.52 | Chestal | eh, as far as I understand it from your commit comment |
| 20:44.07 | JBDiGriz | White is a nice color, although some people like a bit of variation. ☺ |
| 20:44.23 | brlcad | the initialization is effectively moved into the application-domain -- not the library |
| 20:44.40 | Chestal | you replaced TeamColor[] access by storedColor |
| 20:44.48 | Chestal | and this array never gets the color values set right |
| 20:44.52 | JBDiGriz | You could add cream, ivory, bone, and porcelain. ☺ |
| 20:44.56 | brlcad | so when an OpenGLTexColor object is created for use and you care abou color, you have to feed it a color array |
| 20:45.04 | Chestal | hmm |
| 20:45.53 | Chestal | so, color is now an attribute of the font |
| 20:45.58 | Chestal | there are several fonts |
| 20:46.08 | Chestal | before they were sharing a color palette |
| 20:46.35 | larsl | ☺ <- What is that? My font shows the middle character as a box with some things in it. |
| 20:47.54 | JBDiGriz | larsl: It depends on your client, it looks like a smiley to me. |
| 20:48.11 | JBDiGriz | Do you have a unicode client? |
| 20:48.41 | larsl | I have no idea. |
| 20:49.05 | larsl | XChat uses GTK+, so it should handle UNICODE. |
| 20:49.16 | JBDiGriz | and they say the Americans are bad when it comes to internationalization ... |
| 20:49.28 | bryjen | larsl: i'm seeing that too. I just figured JB was making funny faces... |
| 20:49.41 | JBDiGriz | xchat can handle unicode if you specify it as a server attribute. |
| 20:50.02 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: you're absolutely right, i'm making funny faces ☺ |
| 20:50.26 | bryjen | seven bits are good enough for the rest of us, showoff :P |
| 20:52.56 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-255-182.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 20:54.42 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 20:55.25 | brlcad | hey.. a full ip |
| 20:56.45 | bryjen | do your buffers runneth over? |
| 20:56.59 | dheckaman | ~d |
| 20:57.08 | bryjen | s/do/Doest/ |
| 20:57.09 | dheckaman | rats, guess not |
| 20:57.51 | bryjen | hrm |
| 20:57.57 | bryjen | ~spell doest |
| 20:57.58 | | 'doest' may be spelled correctly |
| 20:58.13 | bryjen | ~dict doest |
| 20:58.21 | bryjen | ~dict dost |
| 20:58.41 | JBDiGriz | Methinks the player dost protest too much. |
| 20:59.05 | bryjen | apparently ibot dost fork too much... |
| 21:01.20 | patlabor221 | ibots not that kinda girl. |
| 21:01.21 | brlcad | er, exposed |
| 21:01.55 | atom-z | can you hide your hostnames? |
| 21:02.03 | larsl | -anonymous |
| 21:02.23 | JBDiGriz | or add an email entry to your bzflag configuration file. |
| 21:02.31 | larsl | brlcad: So we can point at the newbies and laugh. =) |
| 21:02.35 | brlcad | So I type -anonymous after double-clicking the bzflag icon? :) |
| 21:03.21 | brlcad | and why can't it be set in the menu!? |
| 21:03.48 | brlcad | hehe, I don't get to gripe much |
| 21:04.23 | bryjen | brlcad: "type -anonymous after double-clicking the bzflag icon" and then press F12 |
| 21:05.15 | JBDiGriz | I see most people are in an anti-social mood after the long weekend. |
| 21:05.20 | brlcad | is that before or after ctrl-alt-f4 + enter? |
| 21:05.22 | bryjen | ibot: lart bryjen for making a lame F12 joke |
| 21:06.10 | larsl | What does F12 do? |
| 21:06.17 | brlcad | press it :) |
| 21:06.29 | brlcad | it makes coffee |
| 21:06.33 | larsl | It brings up the WindowMaker "Applications" menu. |
| 21:06.42 | bryjen | F12 is "exit right now" in the bzflag client |
| 21:07.02 | larsl | Ah. I think my window manager grabs it before bzflag gets it. |
| 21:08.23 | purple_cow | yep |
| 21:08.27 | purple_cow | "boss approaching" key |
| 21:09.14 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.57 | patlabor221 | hah, she was holding the beer can |
| 21:21.41 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@bgp01138bgs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:21.55 | brlcad | howdy sgi |
| 21:22.09 | SGI | woww a lot of people here |
| 21:22.47 | SGI | what meam brlcad |
| 21:23.14 | brlcad | meam? |
| 21:23.17 | SGI | ~seen dtremenak |
| 21:23.18 | | dtremenak <~DTRemenak@host-225-32.dialup.innercite.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 23h 34m 52s ago, saying: 'c'ya sgi'. |
| 21:23.22 | SGI | mean |
| 21:23.28 | brlcad | ah |
| 21:24.19 | brlcad | long explanation -- but it's the name of a rather old piece of government cad software, utilities, and libraries |
| 21:24.50 | brlcad | u.s. government, that is |
| 21:25.17 | SGI | thanx |
| 21:25.22 | SGI | I know |
| 21:25.38 | SGI | Are you think im stupid :o) |
| 21:25.46 | brlcad | hehe, no comment :) |
| 21:25.49 | SGI | Are you think IM funny |
| 21:25.57 | brlcad | Oh, definately funny :D |
| 21:26.01 | patlabor221 | talk like yoda you do. |
| 21:26.42 | SGI | no Joe Pesci....... |
| 21:26.56 | patlabor221 | no, I'm think it's more yoda |
| 21:27.47 | SGI | No Joe Pesci...Good Fellas |
| 21:27.58 | SGI | You think Im funny |
| 21:28.54 | brlcad | Joe ruined the whole bad-guy image with the leathal weapon character :) |
| 21:30.47 | SGI | no way......hes a great actor |
| 21:32.04 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/ogl (OpenGLTexFont.cxx): let cctor and = do the right thing for storedColors |
| 21:32.57 | brlcad | oh, it was great acting -- but I've thought of him as comedic ever since |
| 21:33.48 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (2 files): -solo robot shooting: shoot when inline with target and separate shoots |
| 21:34.19 | SGI | are you talking about robots |
| 21:34.25 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (texture.cxx): set first NumTeam font colors to team colors |
| 21:34.37 | SGI | why they are so dumb |
| 21:34.56 | brlcad | oh, thank you and sorry chestal :) |
| 21:35.50 | brlcad | sgi, have you tried the new autopilot/bot? |
| 21:35.59 | SGI | nope |
| 21:36.09 | Tupone | Now we got 2 kind of robots - both dumb: new 'Roger' picking up flag and old-style more fixed now but dumbest |
| 21:36.30 | SGI | but i remember a long time ago .....I dont remeber wich server |
| 21:36.46 | brlcad | roger already kicks the older bot's arse, albeit very predictably |
| 21:37.11 | brlcad | it'd be hilarious to pit them against each other :) |
| 21:37.13 | Tupone | roger should try now! |
| 21:37.35 | brlcad | and what two rogers would do to each other.. |
| 21:37.35 | SGI | smart bots ...moving little bit and very precising shoot |
| 21:37.56 | SGI | Roger jump |
| 21:38.18 | bryjen | Chestal had some mean bots at one time |
| 21:38.24 | SGI | Roger .......cheating |
| 21:38.49 | brlcad | Roger ... writing code and commiting to cvs .. |
| 21:38.55 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): the color is back; not sure the current solution is perfect, though |
| 21:38.57 | TimRiker | old bot keeps getting stuck. anyone fix that? |
| 21:40.01 | Tupone | They are stuck now without an opponent or with no path (computed0 getting to the opponent) |
| 21:42.04 | Chestal | I wonder whetehr the bots coudl easily be improved by making their target not the player positin but a projected position (dead reckoning like) |
| 21:42.33 | Chestal | and making their shootign pattern more random |
| 21:43.06 | Chestal | their total unawareness of enemy shots doesn't help either :-) but that's not so easy to fix as the other thing |
| 21:43.07 | brlcad | there movement predicatability is what kills them |
| 21:43.10 | JBDiGriz | random shooting pattern would make the bots play more like I do. |
| 21:43.23 | brlcad | lol, jb |
| 21:43.36 | brlcad | s/there/their/, ugh |
| 21:43.38 | Tupone | Chestal: I'm just trying to put fixes around. The true bot should grab flag. Roger bot do that |
| 21:44.00 | Chestal | Tupone: well, true bots should be programmed using a bot API |
| 21:44.33 | Tupone | Chestal: have you seen my last ones? |
| 21:44.48 | Chestal | no |
| 21:45.08 | Tupone | Go on your site and see the shooting |
| 21:45.31 | bryjen | perlbots and pythonbots and bears, oh my! |
| 21:48.11 | JBDiGriz | tupone: which port is playing the bots? |
| 21:48.40 | bryjen | lovely 2 meter jumps on ducati, Chestal ;) |
| 21:48.42 | Tupone | JBDiGriz: what you mean by port? TCP/UDP |
| 21:49.21 | Chestal | bryjen: yep, they make for a totally different gameplay |
| 21:49.59 | Tupone | JBDiGriz: port is the same, all the protocol was there. But protocol now don't allow to grab |
| 21:50.18 | bryjen | are the tank-bits shooting up into the air higher than normal on explode? |
| 21:50.40 | bryjen | JB: 59155 vers 1.9 |
| 21:50.42 | Chestal | Tupone: bots are gone |
| 21:50.48 | Tupone | wait |
| 21:51.09 | JBDiGriz | thanks bry! I should have figured that. |
| 21:54.22 | SGI | is possible to see the bots????? |
| 22:00.09 | Tupone | Chestal: what do you think about? |
| 22:00.14 | Chestal | Tupone: better |
| 22:00.23 | Chestal | I still see nothing of burrowed tanks but the flag |
| 22:00.36 | Chestal | and this is on two different machines, one with software rendering, the other with glx/dri |
| 22:01.20 | bryjen | what 3d card? |
| 22:01.30 | Chestal | at home: Matrox G400 |
| 22:01.38 | Chestal | at unviersity its software |
| 22:01.51 | bryjen | I'm using a G450 here |
| 22:01.56 | Chestal | so I'd guess it's the gl libs, hmm |
| 22:02.38 | Tupone | Option are full enabled? z-buffer, texturing .... |
| 22:03.11 | Chestal | I changed virtualy ervy option |
| 22:03.28 | Chestal | uhm, what's Depth Complexity? |
| 22:03.32 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (Spiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 22:03.39 | Spiff | Hey all. |
| 22:03.42 | Chestal | ah, it's there because of debug mode |
| 22:03.43 | Spiff | Is Chestal here? |
| 22:03.45 | Tupone | Depth complexity IMHO is for debugging |
| 22:03.48 | Spiff | Ahh.. good. :-D |
| 22:03.53 | Spiff | Can you enter a match for me please? |
| 22:04.07 | Spiff | TAF- 4. HoW- 1. |
| 22:04.13 | Spiff | (We won.) |
| 22:04.27 | Tupone | it is enabled only when --enable-debug is configured |
| 22:04.49 | Chestal | ok |
| 22:05.02 | Spiff | Thanks. :-D |
| 22:05.03 | Chestal | hidden line/wireframe is fun, you can see the subdivision for lgihting on walls |
| 22:05.43 | Tupone | The bot you have seen are already in CVS |
| 22:06.11 | Chestal | btw.: |
| 22:06.24 | Chestal | elapsed time : 50.5053, time in eval: 0.510977 |
| 22:06.49 | Tupone | again 1% |
| 22:06.51 | Chestal | _tankHeight: 219487, _maxLOD: 83078, _flagRadius: 35468, _tankRadius: 21106, _worldSize: 10722, ... |
| 22:07.22 | Chestal | I now subtract 1.3 microseconds from the measurements and ignore all measurements which take more than 1 millisecond |
| 22:07.32 | *** join/#bzflag mmu (~revol@ALyon-209-1-12-202.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:11.46 | SGI | bye bye |
| 22:11.49 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@bgp01138bgs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 22:12.41 | Chestal | did you see 'bzflag' on http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/invisible_user_007a.shtml? .-) |
| 22:15.16 | JBDiGriz | Good one, not many claimed all 8 of those... |
| 22:16.37 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-168-79.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 22:17.52 | *** join/#bzflag Big_Barrel (~chatzilla@adsl-64-219-77-224.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 22:21.21 | JBDiGriz | I've had 420 random accesses to my web server since 2am, and zero accesses from people who really wanted to go there. |
| 22:25.55 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-135-124.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 22:26.05 | Carnage | learner? |
| 22:28.18 | larsl | Teamkiller on xmission, "rrt". |
| 22:29.28 | larsl | And rejoiner. |
| 22:29.33 | larsl | And pauser. |
| 22:30.45 | larsl | IP 217.132.20.225. |
| 22:31.13 | larsl | ~country .il |
| 22:31.14 | | country .il is, like, israel |
| 22:36.22 | Nidhoggr | my other server won't show up on the list server, and adding the publiclist didn't help, like it did when I had this problem with secretplace. |
| 22:36.54 | larsl | Thanks, Tim (assuming you kicked him). =) |
| 22:37.40 | TimRiker | banning does a kick. |
| 22:37.46 | larsl | Oh, didn't see "TimRiker bans rrt". |
| 22:37.56 | larsl | Just saw @Tim on the server. |
| 22:37.57 | TimRiker | =) |
| 22:38.05 | TimRiker | gotta run... |
| 22:41.53 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~orchid@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 22:44.33 | Nidhoggr | at least it's not rock and drool. |
| 22:44.34 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 22:44.49 | JBDiGriz | dreck and drool |
| 22:44.56 | Nidhoggr | because building a city on drool might be kinda slippery. |
| 22:45.07 | patlabor221 | and kinda nasty |
| 22:45.11 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 22:45.24 | Nidhoggr | I am really kinda perterbed and may open a bug ticket. |
| 22:45.33 | Nidhoggr | second server is not reporting to list server. |
| 22:45.36 | Nidhoggr | config hasn't changed. |
| 22:45.49 | Nidhoggr | this happened to secretplace, and I put in -publiclist and it worked. |
| 22:45.54 | Nidhoggr | no luck with dragon.org |
| 22:46.55 | Chestal | have you tried one or more -d options? |
| 22:47.15 | Nidhoggr | it always ahs -d running. |
| 22:47.23 | Nidhoggr | let me see if there is anything helpful. |
| 22:47.31 | Chestal | try three of them or so |
| 22:48.14 | Nidhoggr | okie... |
| 22:50.26 | Chestal | you shoudl see an ADD ... line |
| 22:50.36 | Chestal | then Player [0] accept() from 208.186.182.172:48821 on 7 |
| 22:51.24 | Nidhoggr | nothing |
| 22:51.34 | Nidhoggr | no useful info at all, ecen with -dddd |
| 22:52.31 | Chestal | no ADD? |
| 22:53.11 | patlabor221 | isn't it -d -d -d -d |
| 22:53.27 | Chestal | I think it works both ways |
| 22:53.48 | Nidhoggr | no ADD |
| 22:53.59 | Nidhoggr | conf file is at http://www.dragon.org/mandrake/dextrose.txt |
| 22:54.02 | Chestal | hmm, uhm, 'opening lits server'? |
| 22:54.12 | Nidhoggr | no opening list server. |
| 22:55.04 | Nidhoggr | this same thing happened on secretplace, but the -publiclist fixed. |
| 22:55.44 | Chestal | not sure at which point it says 'openeing lsit server' |
| 22:56.09 | Nidhoggr | I can see the whole log file in one screen, and it's not there at all. |
| 22:56.12 | Chestal | I assume it says so when it tries to connect to it |
| 22:56.25 | Chestal | so it should appear even when it has püroblems |
| 22:56.32 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 22:56.49 | bzgirl | Chestal: you saw the invisible's answers? |
| 22:56.49 | Nidhoggr | well, I am fairly sure it's config'd properly. |
| 22:57.03 | patlabor221 | she was holding the beer |
| 22:57.05 | Nidhoggr | it was working, then just stopped. |
| 22:57.23 | Chestal | for me it's righ tbefore 'listening on...' |
| 22:58.17 | Nidhoggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.17 | Nidhoggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.17 | Nidhoggr | listening on 0.0.0.0:5155 |
| 22:58.46 | Chestal | hmm |
| 22:59.10 | JBDiGriz | I managed to get two of this week's invisibles from a quick glance |
| 22:59.51 | Chestal | this is 1.7? |
| 23:00.40 | Nidhoggr | yes |
| 23:02.20 | Nidhoggr | going to try to update frm cvs. |
| 23:02.35 | Nidhoggr | that server might be a little older. |
| 23:02.48 | Chestal | it seems to be picky about the bzflist:// syntax |
| 23:02.58 | Chestal | add a traling / |
| 23:03.03 | Chestal | or dump -publiclist |
| 23:03.25 | Nidhoggr | it wasn't working without publiclist. |
| 23:03.28 | Chestal | JB: hmm, I got two, too |
| 23:03.56 | Chestal | JBD: some of the others look fairly easy, but haven't figured them out |
| 23:04.08 | Chestal | 5 and 6 are the one I got |
| 23:04.42 | JBDiGriz | I got 1 and 3 |
| 23:04.56 | Chestal | Nidhogr: without -publiclist it tries to contact http://BZFlag.SourceForge.net/list-server.txt |
| 23:05.12 | Chestal | Nid: maybe port 80 is blocked and you have to use a proxy? otherwise, it shoudl work |
| 23:05.26 | Chestal | JBD: exachange hints or solutions? |
| 23:05.59 | JBDiGriz | 1 is fairly easy, look at the costumes |
| 23:06.01 | Nidhoggr | chestal, I'm on a colo network and there should be no filtering. |
| 23:06.52 | JBDiGriz | 3 is from 1975 |
| 23:07.00 | Chestal | JBD: yes, that's because I think #1 shoud be easy, but I cannot remember any movie liek that |
| 23:07.47 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (cyber@webirc.caffeine-powered.com) |
| 23:07.51 | Chestal | 5 is a science fiction movie and 6 an Irish comedy |
| 23:07.54 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 23:08.17 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-255-182.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 23:08.29 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 23:08.48 | patlabor221 | somone around you have one? |
| 23:09.11 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-255-182.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 23:09.31 | Noodleman | no, my mom and sister are in the laundromat, and i'm in the parking lot with my trusty notebook |
| 23:09.38 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 23:10.03 | JBDiGriz | #1 has been remade several times, I'm not sure which one this was as I saw the black and white version. |
| 23:10.19 | Noodleman | just got this new notebook yesterday |
| 23:11.45 | Chestal | JBD: hmm, tired some which fit your description, but to no avail |
| 23:12.27 | JBDiGriz | Obvious hint, it's not the musical |
| 23:13.15 | Chestal | hmm, I wasn't suspecting a musical |
| 23:14.01 | Chestal | I'm probably off the track |
| 23:14.05 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (Spiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 23:14.12 | Spiff | Still here Chestal? |
| 23:14.19 | Chestal | Spiff: barely |
| 23:14.25 | Spiff | Hehe. |
| 23:14.29 | Spiff | We beat BiPs again. ;) |
| 23:14.42 | Spiff | 5/2 was the final. :) |
| 23:14.49 | Nidhoggr | adding the trailing / worked. |
| 23:14.57 | Chestal | ok |
| 23:15.13 | Spiff | :D |
| 23:16.23 | Spiff | Thanks, Chestal. :) |
| 23:16.24 | Chestal | JBD: I'm probably too tired to make any good guesses anyway, cu tomorrow |
| 23:16.32 | Spiff | C-ya Chestal. :-) |
| 23:16.36 | Noodleman | Spiff: m00 |
| 23:16.41 | JBDiGriz | We'll let others try on thursday |
| 23:18.31 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (~Chikum33@205.197.172.233) |
| 23:19.03 | Noodleman | is stats.bzflag.org down? |
| 23:19.14 | Noodleman | i can't get to the server |
| 23:19.55 | patlabor221 | for a while it was pointing to your base noodle site. |
| 23:20.17 | Noodleman | yeah, i figured that out |
| 23:20.20 | patlabor221 | times out for me |
| 23:20.30 | Noodleman | i've been having domain troubles |
| 23:20.34 | Nidhoggr | anyone remember the url for the mrtg stuff Tim was doing for the servers? |
| 23:20.44 | Noodleman | it expired whilst my back was turned |
| 23:20.57 | patlabor221 | it won't resolve for me |
| 23:21.11 | Noodleman | try 66.62.140.111 |
| 23:21.20 | Noodleman | that doesn't work for me either |
| 23:21.45 | patlabor221 | yeah that times out for me as well |
| 23:22.55 | Noodleman | i bet somebody accidentally unplugged it |
| 23:24.40 | Noodleman | i'll check on it tomorrow i guess |
| 23:25.13 | Noodleman | i'll bug them if it's not working tomorrow |
| 23:25.25 | Noodleman | i'm getting it for free anyway |
| 23:25.53 | Nidhoggr | if you have any problems with hosting, let me know... I can help. |
| 23:26.39 | Noodleman | i'll be fine as soon as i get my server shipped over here |
| 23:26.57 | Nidhoggr | did you move or something? |
| 23:27.02 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 23:27.10 | Noodleman | moved from oregon to indiana |
| 23:27.16 | Nidhoggr | ah. cool. |
| 23:27.20 | Noodleman | server's still in oregon |
| 23:27.41 | Nidhoggr | you working for same company? |
| 23:27.56 | Noodleman | but as soon as i get my own internet access again i'll set it up over here |
| 23:28.09 | Noodleman | i had to quit the job i had |
| 23:28.23 | Nidhoggr | :( |
| 23:28.25 | Nidhoggr | bummer. |
| 23:28.41 | Nidhoggr | well, I have plenty of bandwidth, and some rackspace if you need it. |
| 23:28.58 | Noodleman | thanks |
| 23:29.15 | Noodleman | i'd prefer to host it at my location tho |
| 23:29.22 | Nidhoggr | I'm a customer of the company where I work. :) |
| 23:29.33 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 23:29.38 | Nidhoggr | less of a hassle if I'm paying for my own stuff. |
| 23:30.28 | Nidhoggr | well, I need to head home. |
| 23:30.32 | Nidhoggr | later all. |
| 23:30.34 | Nidhoggr | & |
| 23:31.38 | Noodleman | can partition magic or something else resize ntfs? |
| 23:32.55 | patlabor221 | I think so |
| 23:33.41 | Noodleman | cuz i'd like to have linux on this notebook too |
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| 23:43.37 | Noodleman | brb |
| 23:51.35 | fiberchunks | doo be doo be do |
| 23:52.23 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 23:52.31 | Spiff | Ohh.. hiya Noodleman. :-) |
| 23:52.47 | Noodleman | hey Spiff |
| 23:52.54 | Noodleman | what's up? |
| 23:53.01 | Spiff | Sorry.. I was busy winnin a second match agianst BiPs.... ;) |
| 23:53.13 | Spiff | Pretty good. Although the weather up here is icky. |
| 23:53.19 | Spiff | Err.. n2m. LoL |
| 23:53.22 | Noodleman | same here |
| 23:53.29 | Spiff | It's like 60.. :| |
| 23:53.32 | Spiff | Brrrrrr |
| 23:53.47 | Noodleman | i don't know what temp it is here |
| 23:53.57 | JBDiGriz | ~weather ksan |
| 23:53.57 | Noodleman | but it's rainy and muggy and hot |
| 23:54.34 | Spiff | Ahh.. well.. at least it's hot. :-) |
| 23:54.34 | Chikorita | congrats spiff dat was sum good playin |
| 23:54.35 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 23:54.42 | Noodleman | big difference from bend, oregon |
| 23:54.48 | patlabor221 | Noodleman, creeperz has been looking for you for some reason, |
| 23:54.49 | Chikorita | uh oh cumulonimbus |
| 23:54.50 | Spiff | Thanks Chik. We won because our favorite cheerleader was there.... ;-) |
| 23:54.52 | Spiff | nHehehe. |
| 23:55.03 | Chikorita | yay :D |
| 23:55.12 | Chikorita | aww ur 2 sweet |
| 23:55.28 | Noodleman | patlabor221: yeah, we've been talking alot when we're both on |
| 23:55.29 | Chikorita | i was rootin 4 u tho heh |
| 23:55.39 | Spiff | Hmm.. if bzg shows up.. could one of you ask her to enter a match for me? TAF-5. BiPs-1. |
| 23:55.48 | Spiff | 'Cause I have to go to dinner. |
| 23:55.52 | Spiff | :) |
| 23:55.55 | patlabor221 | memmo her |
| 23:55.56 | Chikorita | maybee chestal iz here? |
| 23:56.04 | Spiff | How do I do that? |
| 23:56.14 | patlabor221 | msg memoserv |
| 23:56.20 | patlabor221 | or botmail |
| 23:56.43 | Chikorita | or u could PM da results 2 Chestal |
| 23:57.39 | Spiff | It won't work. Bah. Just pass it on if you see her please. I'll be back.. but I hafta go *now* |
| 23:57.42 | Spiff | C-ya soon all. |
| 23:57.45 | Chikorita | nk c u |
| 23:57.48 | Spiff | It's goot to see you Noodleman. :-D |
| 23:58.03 | Spiff | good^ |
| 23:58.04 | Spiff | C-yaz. |
| 23:58.33 | Chikorita | ~d |