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| 00:21.19 | larsl | ibot, forget towers |
| 00:21.20 | | i forgot towers, larsl |
| 00:21.39 | larsl | ibot, towers is <reply> see bzfquery glasstowers.homelinux.net |
| 00:21.40 | | okay, larsl |
| 00:21.45 | larsl | ~glasstowers |
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| 00:49.44 | brlcad | hrm |
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| 01:16.07 | tea|tree_ | when do shops opem |
| 01:16.11 | tea|tree_ | 7 AM ? |
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| 02:01.01 | [dmp] | 8-9am in dk |
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| 02:07.59 | tea|tree_ | 4 am here |
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| 02:14.34 | cods | hi |
| 02:15.07 | scanline | oh no, it's an ~admin! |
| 02:15.36 | tea|tree_ | ? |
| 02:15.36 | cods | hmm, better than ~root :) |
| 02:15.47 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 02:16.34 | cods | someone know what happened to happypenguin.bzflag.org ? It's not up anymore :( |
| 02:21.49 | [dmp] | tea|tree_: we live in the same timezone, so i know its bedtime for me, now :) |
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| 02:30.40 | Carnage | lucky me then dmp its 1030 |
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| 02:38.49 | tea|tree_ | hey QUol |
| 02:38.54 | Quol | Hey T |
| 02:38.57 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 02:39.03 | tea|tree_ | 4:30 am :) |
| 02:39.25 | Quol | man - go to bed dude :) |
| 02:39.30 | tea|tree_ | nope |
| 02:39.39 | tea|tree_ | first ill go to the shops |
| 02:39.43 | tea|tree_ | then i go to bed |
| 02:39.45 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 02:39.46 | Quol | I am off to bed in 30 minutes or so - just wanted to work on my site a little... |
| 02:39.53 | tea|tree_ | :) |
| 02:40.06 | JBDiGriz | What's at the shops that is so worthwhile? |
| 02:40.53 | tea|tree_ | no |
| 02:40.57 | tea|tree_ | other wise |
| 02:41.04 | tea|tree_ | i would sleep so long |
| 02:41.10 | tea|tree_ | and i want to have it behind me ^^ |
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| 03:02.31 | learner | ~d |
| 03:02.54 | JBDiGriz | welcome back from the basement |
| 03:05.08 | MrApathyCream | sheesh, no whats up with sf? |
| 03:05.19 | [dmp] | I better get to bed too. |
| 03:05.49 | JBDiGriz | The web site appears to be up |
| 03:07.38 | [dmp] | night all |
| 03:08.03 | MrApathyCream | ssh cvs seems down |
| 03:08.25 | MrApathyCream | up, no it's up i guess |
| 03:08.27 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/geometry (TankSceneNode.cxx): Properly install callbacks for styleFactors |
| 03:08.40 | MrApathyCream | never mind :) |
| 03:08.59 | JBDiGriz | Watch out for those sax and violins! ;-) |
| 03:09.29 | MrApathyCream | i'm not a talking head |
| 03:11.22 | captain_proton | yes you are |
| 03:14.14 | scanline | I'm just a head, and you're... whatever you are |
| 03:14.56 | MrApathyCream | so scans, took the day off did you? |
| 03:15.14 | scanline | no.. I was at work |
| 03:17.41 | MrApathyCream | so cap, to read config file , just CFGMGR->read(getConfigFileName())) |
| 03:17.46 | MrApathyCream | and that populates BZDB? |
| 03:17.50 | captain_proton | yep |
| 03:17.57 | MrApathyCream | shweet |
| 03:17.57 | captain_proton | you thinkin' about server configs? |
| 03:18.00 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 03:18.03 | captain_proton | =) |
| 03:18.29 | MrApathyCream | got to scratch something up to eat first, so if the elves want to work on it, tell them go ahead... |
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| 03:32.18 | Bagheera | NORTON AntiVirus you piece of.............. |
| 03:33.49 | Patlabor221 | elves? |
| 03:34.25 | MrApathyCream | a lame attempt to get captain_proton to actually do some bzflag coding |
| 03:34.35 | MrApathyCream | it fell on deaf pointy ears |
| 03:34.41 | bzgirl | :) |
| 03:35.27 | Bagheera | vulcans are people too |
| 03:36.45 | Bagheera | oh no, oh no.....not that |
| 03:36.56 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure he is coding it up, but not in a language you use :) |
| 03:37.06 | MrApathyCream | i don't even think he's doing that. |
| 03:37.12 | MrApathyCream | He's just being a pretty-boy |
| 03:37.19 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 03:37.47 | Patlabor221 | well if you haven't forgoten, the lady folk, are rather nice to be around |
| 03:38.32 | MrApathyCream | in small doses |
| 03:38.49 | Patlabor221 | depends on the lady :) |
| 03:38.52 | Bagheera | hmmm...sounds like a once married man |
| 03:39.00 | MrApathyCream | yes i was once married |
| 03:39.06 | MrApathyCream | once = now |
| 03:40.39 | Patlabor221 | but once != now |
| 03:40.39 | MrApathyCream | so should server config file be specified on the command line, or just if exists somewhere, use it |
| 03:40.54 | Patlabor221 | they smell nice :) |
| 03:41.08 | Bagheera | if it is local use it, else command line |
| 03:41.20 | Bagheera | the clean ones do |
| 03:41.50 | bzgirl | Bagheera: the "vulcans are people too..." its ok, no offence taken |
| 03:42.17 | Bagheera | ;) |
| 03:44.22 | Bagheera | i love when X-Play tears apart a game....hahaha |
| 03:45.59 | Bagheera | to gain insight into the all mighty ApathyCream |
| 03:46.09 | Patlabor221 | for the pie |
| 03:46.31 | bzgirl | im on autojoin |
| 03:46.36 | Bagheera | and every now again useful information is broadcast |
| 03:47.06 | Bagheera | auto-john, sounds painful |
| 03:47.48 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* |
| 03:47.53 | Bagheera | anybody know how to kill a windows process that wont die? |
| 03:48.09 | MrApathyCream | pull out the plug |
| 03:48.16 | Bagheera | even in task manager |
| 03:48.40 | Bagheera | cant, i will lose all my hair |
| 03:49.08 | Patlabor221 | what version of windows? |
| 03:49.13 | Bagheera | nxp |
| 03:49.18 | Bagheera | dang n |
| 03:49.22 | Bagheera | xp pro |
| 03:49.26 | Patlabor221 | kill the process |
| 03:49.33 | Patlabor221 | ctr + alt + delete |
| 03:49.39 | Patlabor221 | processes |
| 03:49.44 | Patlabor221 | KILLL!!!!!!! |
| 03:49.48 | Bagheera | end process does not work |
| 03:50.01 | Patlabor221 | are you on the process tab or the app tab? |
| 03:50.08 | Bagheera | process |
| 03:50.24 | Patlabor221 | then it's responding to messages |
| 03:50.35 | Patlabor221 | what are you trying to kill? |
| 03:50.39 | Bagheera | norton...... |
| 03:50.48 | Patlabor221 | ahh good luck with that |
| 03:50.50 | Bagheera | uninstalled the bugger, but it still lives |
| 03:50.56 | Patlabor221 | It goes in as a driver iirc |
| 03:50.59 | bzgirl | its a virus |
| 03:51.08 | Patlabor221 | norton sucks |
| 03:51.24 | bzgirl | windows media player is also a virus |
| 03:51.35 | Patlabor221 | this |
| 03:51.36 | Patlabor221 | tis |
| 03:51.59 | Patlabor221 | you may want to go to safe mode and kill the app on disk |
| 03:52.01 | Bagheera | if my tools from work would run on linux, i would be there |
| 03:52.23 | Patlabor221 | what tools? |
| 03:52.30 | Bagheera | tanner eda |
| 03:52.41 | Bagheera | modelsim |
| 03:52.47 | Patlabor221 | no clue what those are :) |
| 03:52.51 | Bagheera | windows, windows, windows |
| 03:53.21 | Bagheera | np, thanks for the effort |
| 03:54.01 | Bagheera | tanner is a silicon GDS layout tool |
| 03:54.14 | Bagheera | modelsim is a simulator |
| 03:54.29 | Bagheera | look at the informatoin just pour out |
| 03:54.45 | Bagheera | ok time to reboot.....have fun all, and good night |
| 03:54.56 | bzgirl | cu |
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| 04:07.52 | learner | are we split? |
| 04:08.05 | learner | ah, nvr mind |
| 04:08.58 | Patlabor221 | yonk |
| 04:09.02 | learner | zork |
| 04:09.10 | bzgirl | bling |
| 04:09.16 | learner | bleep |
| 04:09.40 | Patlabor221 | shananynay bing bing |
| 04:10.07 | learner | *snap* *snap* *snap* |
| 04:10.40 | captain_proton | crs23: hi MAC |
| 04:11.00 | learner | my my, the infamous himself! |
| 04:11.30 | learner | and .. he's .. local |
| 04:11.53 | captain_proton | learner: naw, its apathy |
| 04:12.16 | learner | MAC's local?? |
| 04:12.20 | captain_proton | ya\ |
| 04:13.38 | learner | ~whereis balt-209-163-100-154.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net |
| 04:13.52 | learner | err |
| 04:13.58 | learner | ~nslookup balt-209-163-100-154.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net |
| 04:14.20 | learner | hrm.. what's the command that gives location? |
| 04:14.28 | captain_proton | i'm not sure ibot does that |
| 04:14.46 | learner | ~whois balt-209-163-100-154.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net |
| 04:15.02 | captain_proton | "Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania" |
| 04:15.05 | learner | I've seen one of the bots do it.. |
| 04:15.16 | captain_proton | though thats probably a higher-level ISP |
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| 04:17.14 | learner | jb, it was our "other" favorite suspicious aliaser |
| 04:17.36 | learner | don't know why that wasn't my second guess |
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| 04:34.44 | learner | ah.. it IS mac -- you wriley beast you |
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| 04:49.05 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton, what's the cmd i want to use with CommandManager::run ? |
| 04:50.04 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 04:50.17 | MrApathyCream | my file is like |
| 04:50.22 | MrApathyCream | _lockOnAngle 0.10 |
| 04:50.31 | MrApathyCream | but it tries to execute _lockOnAngle as a command |
| 04:50.44 | MrApathyCream | setVar? |
| 04:51.44 | MrApathyCream | setvar _lockOnAngle 0.10 |
| 04:52.53 | captain_proton | um |
| 04:52.54 | MrApathyCream | nope |
| 04:53.00 | captain_proton | make it so the config file for bzfs looks like bzflag19.bzc |
| 04:53.06 | MrApathyCream | i did |
| 04:53.26 | captain_proton | i mean make it so the line is like: |
| 04:53.29 | captain_proton | set _lockOnAngle 0.10 |
| 04:53.37 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 04:53.48 | MrApathyCream | trying... |
| 04:54.19 | learner | hehe, you guys have to read the fortune on bzgirl's site =) |
| 04:54.33 | captain_proton | the idea is that the config file can execute any valid command |
| 04:54.42 | MrApathyCream | command set not found |
| 04:55.29 | captain_proton | ah - cmdmgr isn't populated |
| 04:55.34 | captain_proton | look at the CommandsStandard stuff in bzflag |
| 04:56.27 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 04:56.31 | MrApathyCream | prolly need CommandManager::add |
| 04:56.37 | learner | http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/ third box on the right.. |
| 05:00.42 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: can probably just move CommandsStandard to common |
| 05:03.36 | MrApathyCream | probably could |
| 05:03.40 | MrApathyCream | i think i got it |
| 05:07.44 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): Server side bzdb var file support |
| 05:08.08 | captain_proton | wheebie! |
| 05:08.14 | captain_proton | what did you do re: config file stuffs? |
| 05:08.25 | MrApathyCream | works like a champ |
| 05:08.36 | MrApathyCream | hmm? |
| 05:08.38 | captain_proton | i mean file names? command line? |
| 05:08.46 | MrApathyCream | bzfs -vars file |
| 05:08.49 | captain_proton | k |
| 05:08.51 | MrApathyCream | yah, stupid parm name |
| 05:09.28 | MrApathyCream | set _tankSpeed 100.0 |
| 05:09.31 | MrApathyCream | whip around |
| 05:09.33 | learner | Hello mmu_man, welcome to #bzflag |
| 05:10.05 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i liked the moon server we had in 1.8 |
| 05:10.47 | MrApathyCream | gravity? |
| 05:11.04 | captain_proton | ya |
| 05:11.05 | captain_proton | .5 |
| 05:11.07 | captain_proton | of normal |
| 05:11.14 | captain_proton | so...4.9 |
| 05:11.26 | MrApathyCream | trying |
| 05:12.27 | MrApathyCream | oops -4.9 yukyuk |
| 05:12.49 | captain_proton | hehehe |
| 05:13.39 | MrApathyCream | with gravity and tankspeed = 100, you can jump pretty much the length of the world |
| 05:14.37 | MrApathyCream | next is to notice when the file changes and reload :) |
| 05:14.54 | MrApathyCream | or maybe admin command |
| 05:15.08 | captain_proton | admin command sounds good to me |
| 05:15.21 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 05:15.24 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:15.26 | captain_proton | should be able to do a reload -or- set an individual var |
| 05:15.31 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:15.39 | MrApathyCream | ah, good one |
| 05:18.43 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (ChangeLog): doc features |
| 05:21.34 | learner | TankSceneNode.cxx:28: `callbackAdded' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 05:21.34 | learner | TankSceneNode.cxx:28: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for |
| 05:21.34 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.34 | learner | TankSceneNode.cxx: At global scope: |
| 05:21.34 | learner | TankSceneNode.cxx:56: syntax error before `::' token |
| 05:21.35 | learner | make[3]: *** [TankSceneNode.o] Error 1 |
| 05:21.58 | learner | TankSceneNode.cxx:54: warning: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `boolean' with no |
| 05:21.58 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.58 | learner | TankSceneNode.cxx:54: parse error before `;' token |
| 05:22.11 | MrApathyCream | um |
| 05:22.26 | learner | haven't looked -- just noticed it |
| 05:23.33 | MrApathyCream | what kind of freaky compiler u using, learner? Get it a bag of snickers or something? |
| 05:23.52 | learner | gcc |
| 05:24.31 | Patlabor221 | he's on the 'tosh |
| 05:24.47 | learner | pffft! gcc 3.1 |
| 05:25.14 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton, compile for u? |
| 05:25.41 | learner | lol |
| 05:25.52 | captain_proton | they came out with their first playable release |
| 05:26.02 | MrApathyCream | ISO C++ forbids declaration of `boolean' with no type |
| 05:26.07 | MrApathyCream | what the heck does that mean? |
| 05:26.26 | MrApathyCream | ah, should be bool |
| 05:26.28 | MrApathyCream | one sec |
| 05:27.07 | learner | what freaky compiler are YOU using.. |
| 05:27.30 | Patlabor221 | boolean is typed as a uchar in windows.h |
| 05:27.31 | MrApathyCream | committing |
| 05:27.36 | MrApathyCream | too much java |
| 05:27.56 | MrApathyCream | ok, try again |
| 05:28.03 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/geometry (TankSceneNode.cxx): bool, not boolean |
| 05:28.51 | learner | auto-try by cron job in 1.2 minutes |
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| 05:41.24 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (ChangeLog): doc changes |
| 05:43.04 | learner | TankSceneNode.cxx: In function `static void TankFactors::callback(const |
| 05:43.04 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.04 | learner | TankSceneNode.cxx:37: warning: unused parameter `void*userData' |
| 05:43.06 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221, do you want to add /set as a new permission in your code |
| 05:43.07 | learner | but it builds |
| 05:43.15 | MrApathyCream | learner, ok will fix |
| 05:44.35 | MrApathyCream | rats |
| 05:44.49 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/geometry (TankSceneNode.cxx): -Werror is a blessing and a curse |
| 05:45.37 | Patlabor221 | what does /set do? |
| 05:45.54 | Patlabor221 | and it's no longer my code, it mutated |
| 05:46.08 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: sets a server var |
| 05:46.16 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.23 | MrApathyCream | such as setting global gravity |
| 05:46.27 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 05:46.28 | MrApathyCream | or, tankspeed |
| 05:46.30 | MrApathyCream | or lockonangle |
| 05:46.35 | Patlabor221 | so pop in a perm |
| 05:46.57 | captain_proton | hey... |
| 05:47.04 | captain_proton | i think we just closed a feature request |
| 05:47.14 | MrApathyCream | yes, it's already closed :) |
| 05:47.33 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:48.19 | Patlabor221 | I would call the command /setvar |
| 05:48.26 | Patlabor221 | set is too general |
| 05:48.43 | MrApathyCream | setvar |
| 05:48.45 | captain_proton | eh |
| 05:48.46 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 05:49.04 | Patlabor221 | well ther are like 4 set perms allready |
| 05:49.09 | Patlabor221 | so do it |
| 05:49.09 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 05:49.13 | MrApathyCream | do it |
| 05:49.18 | MrApathyCream | i double dog dare ya |
| 05:50.03 | Patlabor221 | where is the command? |
| 05:51.25 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221, not in there yet |
| 05:51.34 | Patlabor221 | ohh |
| 05:51.40 | Patlabor221 | then here |
| 05:51.41 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 05:52.20 | Patlabor221 | use setVar as a perm when you hook it up :) |
| 05:52.29 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 05:52.45 | Patlabor221 | I just commited |
| 05:52.49 | Patlabor221 | if you can't tell :) |
| 05:52.51 | MrApathyCream | coo |
| 05:52.58 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (2 files): Added setVar perm |
| 05:53.03 | Patlabor221 | there ya go |
| 05:55.07 | Patlabor221 | it's butt simple to add a perm |
| 05:55.21 | Patlabor221 | add the enum and add the writer and the parser |
| 05:55.26 | Patlabor221 | then you are done. |
| 05:56.51 | Patlabor221 | you should check for setVar and setAll |
| 05:58.06 | MrApathyCream | setALL? |
| 05:58.08 | MrApathyCream | oh, ok |
| 05:58.14 | MrApathyCream | working.... |
| 05:59.11 | Patlabor221 | all the enums are in the perms header |
| 06:01.58 | MrApathyCream | cool it works |
| 06:02.26 | Patlabor221 | you had doubts? |
| 06:02.52 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 06:02.58 | MrApathyCream | not with your stuff |
| 06:03.01 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 06:03.24 | MrApathyCream | so if you use /password, then you get setAll? |
| 06:04.03 | Patlabor221 | if you do a /password you get every single perm |
| 06:04.09 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 06:04.41 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): new /set admin command to set world parm variables |
| 06:10.11 | tea|tree_ | ~ |
| 06:10.13 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 06:12.17 | learner | borked the build again |
| 06:12.37 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 06:12.39 | MrApathyCream | what now |
| 06:12.56 | learner | bzfs.cxx:4156: no matching function for call to `ConfigFileManager::read( |
| 06:12.56 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.56 | learner | ../../include/ConfigFileManager.h:36: candidates are: bool |
| 06:12.56 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.57 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.59 | learner | ../../include/ConfigFileManager.h:41: void |
| 06:13.01 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.14 | MrApathyCream | that code is changed anyway, wait for the rebuild |
| 06:16.09 | MrApathyCream | it's odd that read(std::istream& wasn't picked |
| 06:16.16 | MrApathyCream | doesn't stringstream derive from istream? |
| 06:16.28 | MrApathyCream | oh, well, i rewrote that better anyway |
| 06:16.29 | captain_proton | i think istringstream does |
| 06:16.36 | MrApathyCream | t minus ? till next build? |
| 06:17.17 | MrApathyCream | ah, perhaps that was it |
| 06:17.46 | MrApathyCream | sweet your flying along at top speed, type /set _tankSpeed 5.0 and you slow down to a crawl |
| 06:19.11 | MrApathyCream | Well off to bed |
| 06:19.28 | learner | g'night |
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| 06:25.36 | captain_proton | harumph |
| 06:25.44 | captain_proton | MAC made it so it doesn't have the default vars :P |
| 06:43.59 | learner | damn it! |
| 06:44.04 | learner | I'm talking here! |
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| 06:44.17 | captain_proton | you are? |
| 06:44.26 | learner | hehe, well.. in private at least |
| 06:45.52 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): MAC, using CMDMGR is not forbidden |
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| 07:19.00 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): allow variables to be set via admin command without -vars |
| 07:25.03 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 07:42.36 | captain_proton | speaking of which |
| 07:42.43 | captain_proton | i took some less-blurry photos of the new navi parts :) |
| 07:45.03 | learner | photos? |
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| 07:47.21 | captain_proton | its still kinda blurry |
| 07:47.24 | captain_proton | http://navi.picogui.org/images/navi/diskies.jpg |
| 07:48.12 | learner | Mmmmmm |
| 07:48.22 | learner | how much is that? |
| 07:48.27 | captain_proton | 840GB |
| 07:48.53 | learner | scsi/ide? |
| 07:48.57 | captain_proton | ide |
| 07:49.10 | captain_proton | we're just starving college students, can't afford scsi :P |
| 07:49.16 | learner | heh |
| 07:50.48 | captain_proton | and the way to hook 'em all up: http://navi.picogui.org/images/navi/hpt404.jpg |
| 07:51.16 | captain_proton | scanline pulled navi apart earlier, and it has exactly 7 free 3.5" bays |
| 07:51.27 | captain_proton | so we'll have filled every single bay with a hard disk |
| 07:51.29 | captain_proton | in a full tower |
| 07:52.23 | learner | :) |
| 07:52.42 | learner | that card linux-supported? |
| 07:52.49 | captain_proton | yup |
| 07:53.00 | learner | nice |
| 07:53.26 | learner | what kind of raid is that 5? I think i remember you saying 5 |
| 07:53.42 | captain_proton | we'll be doing 5 in hardware |
| 07:53.48 | captain_proton | the card provides 0, 1, 0+1 or JBOD |
| 07:54.02 | captain_proton | but we'll just turn off the raid and use it as a disk controller |
| 07:54.19 | learner | ah |
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| 07:57.09 | bomber | moin |
| 07:57.15 | learner | mornin' |
| 07:57.31 | bomber | ibot moin |
| 07:57.36 | | i guess moin is North German for everything you would say for salutatory |
| 07:57.46 | learner | bomber is almost always my que to go to bed.. |
| 07:57.53 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:57.55 | bomber | :o))) |
| 08:01.49 | learner | is it cvs diff -c that provides patch-style diff's? |
| 08:01.59 | captain_proton | cvs diff -u |
| 08:02.17 | learner | thx -- never can remember that |
| 08:02.28 | captain_proton | "unified diff" |
| 08:03.05 | learner | "unmemorizeable" |
| 08:03.27 | captain_proton | there ya go |
| 08:05.06 | captain_proton | learner: up for a couple minutes on the laser doggy? |
| 08:06.19 | learner | *sigh* -- sorry got to go sleep |
| 08:06.35 | captain_proton | k |
| 08:07.39 | captain_proton | hm, i should probably sleep too |
| 08:08.03 | learner | g'night |
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| 11:47.15 | [dmp] | howdy |
| 11:47.42 | Chestal | hi [dmp] |
| 11:47.50 | Chestal | ladder was down? |
| 11:48.02 | Chestal | oh, a new feature |
| 11:48.22 | Chestal | what's the difference between 'offline' and 'down'? |
| 11:49.07 | [dmp] | My ISP got problems with (mostly) their DNS servers, but yesterday i had no internet for 4 hours :-( |
| 11:49.16 | Chestal | how much memory have you got now? |
| 11:49.23 | [dmp] | offline: manually set - the server wont event bother to get data from it |
| 11:49.51 | [dmp] | down: it tries to get data, but couldnt connect to server. It will try again after (iirc) 15 mins again |
| 11:49.58 | [dmp] | error: if something else goes wrong |
| 11:50.21 | [dmp] | Not a new feature, actually. Its just shown now :) |
| 11:50.23 | Chestal | bamf is on vacation I think and shut off his server for the time |
| 11:50.43 | [dmp] | ~128+512 |
| 11:50.44 | | 640 |
| 11:50.51 | [dmp] | MB of memory |
| 11:50.51 | Chestal | CraXy Mouse #1 again :-) |
| 11:50.55 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 11:51.01 | [dmp] | you can always count on him :) |
| 11:52.07 | [dmp] | Im thjinking about making an alert service, which sends out a warning, if it cannot get connection to a server. |
| 11:53.00 | [dmp] | One of Quols server was down (it hang) for a few days, without him knowing it. And as i rready connects to the server every once in a while, it woudlnt be that hard. |
| 11:53.14 | Chestal | warn by mail? |
| 11:54.53 | [dmp] | yes |
| 12:12.32 | [dmp] | hmm. |
| 12:13.49 | [dmp] | .. that is, if i get the time to do it :) |
| 12:16.31 | Chestal | time is an illusion |
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| 13:27.03 | Chestal | hi |
| 13:27.29 | bzgirl | hello |
| 13:31.18 | Quol_AtWork | hello |
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| 14:06.10 | [dmp] | silly game: "Try to deliver your flag to the enemy" :-) |
| 14:06.29 | david_v | lol |
| 14:06.45 | bomber | lol |
| 14:06.54 | david_v | we need to try that sometime :D |
| 14:07.28 | [dmp] | it wont exactly improve your ladder-score :) |
| 14:07.38 | david_v | it's going down anyway ;) |
| 14:11.12 | david_v | he must be very bad on that game considering his score is what it is :) |
| 14:11.24 | [dmp] | the ctf-rating dosnt show skill. It shows how good you are to pick a winning team :) |
| 14:12.12 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 14:12.43 | [dmp] | Your math-skill sucks :) |
| 14:13.16 | [dmp] | 18:08 [dmp] blah blah blah .. 18:08 david_v hears the first.. |
| 14:13.22 | [dmp] | within the same minute :) |
| 14:14.11 | david_v | i think you misunderstood me quite *dramatically* :) |
| 14:14.19 | david_v | i was implying that you said the same thing a few weeks ago |
| 14:14.48 | [dmp] | So I cant repeat my words of wisdom? |
| 14:15.03 | david_v | words of what? |
| 14:16.46 | david_v | yah yah :) brb |
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| 14:41.41 | Mecworks | TimRiker: morning. |
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| 14:53.04 | TimRiker | C++ quiz... what does a line inside a function that says "int b();" do? does b now exist or not? |
| 14:53.09 | TimRiker | Mecworks! |
| 14:53.37 | TimRiker | how's ut? my box keeping you awake? I really need to get my butt in gear and move the services don't I? |
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| 15:07.26 | Mecworks | TimRiker: Your box is doing fine. But I do need to put another box on that IP shortly. How are things going? BTW, I was reading your home page and my isp is csolutions, not xmission. xmission is cool but they limit bandwidth. csolutions doesnt. that's why I went with them instead. How's TX and Ti? |
| 15:10.30 | TimRiker | Mecworks: ah. ok, I'll update it. ;-) tx is hot. ti is fine. fun project, but I spend a lot of time in meetings and educating, not a lot coding. |
| 15:12.09 | Mecworks | hm. bummer. Novell is so cool. great job and team. not a lot of coding. testing automation and scripts and such. but very fun none the less. Today everyone's off to Lagoon (I am working in my shop today and taking a day off). BTW, I now have a band saw and a drill press... 8^) |
| 15:14.50 | Mecworks | TimRiker: Do you know if Linux supports any 802.11b USB devices? |
| 15:15.47 | TimRiker | I've never used any. I'd guess that some are supported as hacking USB hardware is fairly easy. |
| 15:16.19 | bryjen | Last time I looked, nobody had good things to say about them. Been a while tho. |
| 15:16.45 | Mecworks | hm. I'm wondering as I am looking at getting one of the shuttle PC and probably need the free PCI slot for a better quality sound card than whats onboard. |
| 15:17.50 | bryjen | http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html |
| 15:19.18 | TimRiker | http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=2052&PHPSESSID=84a9a2067535625d0d1da78d9e4e8775 |
| 15:22.37 | Mecworks | TimRiker: interesting. seems to work. The machine will not be a server - a client down in my workshop. |
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| 15:23.04 | alex | lets see.. |
| 15:23.14 | bzgirl | hi alex |
| 15:23.18 | alex | hi angie |
| 15:23.22 | Mecworks | I have also been toyiung with getting a 1U with two PCI slots to add to me never ending rack expansion... |
| 15:26.13 | bryjen | hmm. there's more talk of USB adapters, but it still makes them sound kludgy - people glueing chips meant for PCI/CardBus to USB bridges |
| 15:26.59 | alex | kay bye bye :) |
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| 15:27.09 | TimRiker | everybody seen http://ftp.gnu.org/MISSING-FILES.README ? |
| 15:27.37 | bryjen | Then again, some of the PCI stuff seemed that why too (PLX to make CardBus parts work in PCI)... |
| 15:27.49 | bryjen | s/why/way |
| 15:28.12 | bryjen | ftp.gnu.org was compromised. |
| 15:28.44 | bryjen | http://lwn.net/Articles/44310/ |
| 15:28.57 | bryjen | http://lwn.net/Articles/44402/ |
| 15:30.41 | bryjen | Via the ptrace() problem in Linux 2.4. Wasn't that the one that went unfixed for a long while due to a lenghty set of -pre kernels? |
| 15:31.12 | Mecworks | I'm supprised they are running Linux instead of the hurd... 8^) that way they would have been safe...stallman should run with this one... 8^) |
| 15:33.04 | bryjen | I wonder how much exposed-to-the-wild-internet HURD is getting. Could be embarrassing to stick it out there and people start poking holes in it. |
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| 15:44.14 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 15:44.25 | learner | 01nk |
| 15:44.25 | patlabor221 | no, noodleman does not exist |
| 15:44.36 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 15:44.39 | bryjen | n00 |
| 15:44.41 | patlabor221 | get moved? |
| 15:44.59 | Noodleman | we are at our destination, just don['t have a house yet |
| 15:45.07 | patlabor221 | ahh, fun |
| 15:45.16 | Mecworks | bryjen: Yea, I think it should get a track record before a critical application. |
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| 15:53.40 | bryjen | eh. "...appears that the machine was cracked using a ptrace exploit by a local user..." Looks like it might've started from a human failure. Weak password or such. The OS can't help those. |
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| 16:12.58 | patlabor221 | what's the longest a domain name can be? |
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| 16:15.30 | JBDiGriz | According to the include files, 256 bytes. /usr/include/nameser.h |
| 16:16.16 | JBDiGriz | I haven't checked RFC 883 which should give the definitive answer. |
| 16:22.09 | doug__ | patlabor221, theres a really long one that hosts pi :) |
| 16:22.37 | doug__ | its like 3.123243~1.jp or something :) |
| 16:23.45 | scanline | which version of pi starts with 3.12? |
| 16:24.01 | JBDiGriz | ~pi |
| 16:24.03 | | extra, extra, read all about it, pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 16:24.13 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.19 | doug__ | yea |
| 16:25.31 | bryjen | ~pie |
| 16:25.32 | | Leeds ate all the pies |
| 16:25.50 | bryjen | ooookey. if you say so. |
| 16:25.54 | patlabor221 | well I don't think they will be using a database server on that domain. |
| 16:28.51 | doug__ | http://3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592.jp/ |
| 16:30.18 | patlabor221 | like I said, I don't think they will be running a DBTP database server |
| 16:31.28 | patlabor221 | hmm what's a good port to default to |
| 16:31.39 | captain_proton | 5155 ;) |
| 16:32.02 | patlabor221 | I don't want it to confilct with the BZ port |
| 16:32.14 | patlabor221 | as this can be used with BZ |
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| 16:33.01 | david_v | learner: ping |
| 16:34.16 | patlabor221 | and cap, don't you mean 5154, as thats what tim has on iana |
| 16:36.04 | captain_proton | no, i mean 5155 |
| 16:36.10 | captain_proton | because bz will be 5154... |
| 16:36.13 | patlabor221 | ahh |
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| 16:37.22 | captain_proton | whats the T? |
| 16:37.27 | patlabor221 | Transport |
| 16:37.40 | patlabor221 | or Toilet :) |
| 16:37.52 | bryjen | transaction |
| 16:39.52 | bryjen | hmm D__ B__ Toilet P__ . the last blank is obvious. wonder what the first to could be. :) |
| 16:39.53 | patlabor221 | Tripwire |
| 16:40.09 | *** join/#bzflag gonk{work} (~Pineapple@ivan.client.mscd.edu) |
| 16:40.29 | patlabor221 | I figured Database Transport Protocol |
| 16:40.29 | JBDiGriz | http is hyper text transfer protocol, rfc 2616 |
| 16:40.52 | captain_proton | make sure its lower case |
| 16:40.56 | captain_proton | "dbtp://" |
| 16:41.00 | captain_proton | then its more URI-ish |
| 16:41.09 | patlabor221 | it dosn't realy care |
| 16:41.18 | patlabor221 | it just uses it to know if it's a server or a file |
| 16:42.14 | patlabor221 | so instead of specifying a database file, you can put in a dbtp://servername:port |
| 16:43.04 | bryjen | is there a list of URI types somewhere? |
| 16:43.54 | bryjen | Hmmm, Mr ReferenceText ? |
| 16:45.24 | bryjen | eh. URI = University of Rhode Island. not excatly what I was looking for. |
| 16:45.32 | captain_proton | heh |
| 16:46.43 | JBDiGriz | http://www.w3.org/Addressing/schemes |
| 16:47.14 | captain_proton | yay for gopher |
| 16:47.16 | JBDiGriz | I don't see anything which is specifically for a database, and dbtp isn't listed, so go for it! |
| 16:47.21 | bryjen | RFC 2396 |
| 16:47.37 | patlabor221 | it was ether that or gdbp:// |
| 16:47.41 | patlabor221 | for game database |
| 16:49.37 | JBDiGriz | url's aren't limited to 4 characters. |
| 16:49.46 | patlabor221 | I know |
| 16:49.55 | patlabor221 | but I don't want to make it too long |
| 16:50.23 | captain_proton | gamedatabaseprotocol:// |
| 16:50.28 | captain_proton | not too long! |
| 16:50.29 | JBDiGriz | That's right, you have to type it in! ;-P |
| 16:51.47 | patlabor221 | or put it in a config |
| 16:52.14 | JBDiGriz | I meant you personally have to type it in correctly at least once! |
| 16:52.27 | patlabor221 | well or copy and paste |
| 16:52.29 | patlabor221 | so no |
| 16:52.47 | patlabor221 | somone seomwhere has to type it |
| 16:52.52 | JBDiGriz | Would you like me to type it for you so you can copy and paste? |
| 16:52.54 | patlabor221 | and cap has done that |
| 16:53.03 | patlabor221 | no it's done :) |
| 16:53.08 | patlabor221 | never needs to be done again |
| 16:53.13 | JBDiGriz | We get by with a little help from our friends! |
| 16:53.24 | patlabor221 | that and IRC logs |
| 16:59.02 | *** join/#bzflag learnerAtWork (sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 16:59.34 | david_v | learnerAtWork: hallo, match? :) |
| 17:02.51 | bryjen | hehe @ spam From: Tangle-FreeFlatGardenHose Subject: Say Goodbye to Your Rubber Hose Today |
| 17:02.52 | bryjen | Then what would I LART my lusers with? |
| 17:02.53 | david_v | because you're never home ;) |
| 17:03.17 | learnerAtWork | i was home and playing a good bit of the day yesterday :P |
| 17:03.27 | learnerAtWork | missed you and chika by like 20 minutes |
| 17:03.51 | david_v | we had been waiting for hours already |
| 17:04.29 | david_v | but never mind |
| 17:04.35 | david_v | can you play today do you think? |
| 17:04.44 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: They figure it would handicap you to play with the relay on your home machine! :-) |
| 17:04.50 | david_v | hehe |
| 17:04.59 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 17:05.21 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Don't tell them about the AI enhancement in that relay! |
| 17:05.32 | learnerAtWork | david -- I'm not sure, but it I can, it won't be until tonight (8-9 hours from now) |
| 17:06.45 | david_v | oh that's too late |
| 17:07.09 | david_v | let's try during the weekend? |
| 17:09.06 | learnerAtWork | david: :( |
| 17:09.11 | learnerAtWork | sorry.. |
| 17:09.12 | david_v | busy busy buys? |
| 17:09.14 | david_v | *busy |
| 17:09.17 | learnerAtWork | I really do want that match with you guys |
| 17:09.31 | david_v | it was just a question |
| 17:09.36 | david_v | and Chiko sent me to ask :) |
| 17:09.49 | david_v | what's Mayhem doing nowadays BTW? |
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| 17:15.56 | *** part/#bzflag Legolas (~Legolas@adsl-68-78-101-78.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
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| 17:16.54 | Merry | hello |
| 17:16.55 | david_v | hi Merry, Chik |
| 17:17.01 | Chikorita | hi |
| 17:17.15 | Merry | hi david |
| 17:17.17 | david_v | no BzR-Fortix match soon, unfortunately |
| 17:17.25 | Chikorita | o? |
| 17:17.27 | Chikorita | y? |
| 17:17.33 | david_v | learner can't it seems |
| 17:17.37 | Chikorita | o |
| 17:17.41 | Chikorita | i c |
| 17:17.43 | Chikorita | np |
| 17:17.43 | david_v | not when we can anyway |
| 17:18.37 | Chikorita | wee can match here .. |
| 17:18.38 | Chikorita | inirc |
| 17:18.41 | Chikorita | in irc |
| 17:18.42 | Chikorita | lol |
| 17:18.49 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork lives on a PDT schedule in an EDT location. |
| 17:19.04 | Merry | lol |
| 17:19.14 | Merry | hehe |
| 17:19.49 | Chikorita | yay |
| 17:19.57 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 17:19.59 | Merry | wouldn't be that easy |
| 17:19.59 | david_v | hey they red flag is yours ;) |
| 17:20.01 | Merry | hehe |
| 17:20.06 | Merry | ahahaha |
| 17:20.09 | JBDiGriz | but Chikorita you're on the red team! |
| 17:20.10 | Chikorita | no i green |
| 17:20.14 | Merry | riight |
| 17:20.16 | Chikorita | nno i green |
| 17:20.25 | david_v | that's what you think. why would i touch my own flag ;) |
| 17:20.30 | Merry | hehehe |
| 17:20.56 | david_v | even JBDiGriz agrees with me (thanks :) |
| 17:21.06 | Merry | ya, you are red, cuz you picked up the green flag |
| 17:21.08 | Chikorita | i duno , cuz u made a noobie mistake of pickin up ur own flag an carry it out 2 da field LoL |
| 17:21.10 | Merry | w/e |
| 17:21.12 | learnerAtWork | hallo.. |
| 17:21.17 | Merry | hi learner |
| 17:21.17 | Chikorita | nlol merry |
| 17:21.19 | david_v | i get Chiko's point though :) |
| 17:21.25 | Chikorita | hi learner! |
| 17:21.32 | Chikorita | haha nuh uh |
| 17:21.36 | david_v | new topic ;) |
| 17:21.52 | Merry | lol |
| 17:22.37 | Chikorita | hmm i cant even win an irc match :( |
| 17:22.49 | Merry | hahaha |
| 17:22.50 | Chikorita | *sadness* |
| 17:23.11 | Chikorita | anywayzz |
| 17:23.26 | david_v | Scores: Chiko: -1, Dave: 0 |
| 17:23.32 | Chikorita | iz legolas really carnage? |
| 17:23.32 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 17:23.35 | Merry | lego, is going odododododoydododdodododyodd |
| 17:23.36 | Chikorita | haha davy |
| 17:23.37 | Merry | NO! |
| 17:23.44 | Merry | he hates carn |
| 17:23.45 | learnerAtWork | hi merry |
| 17:23.46 | Merry | y |
| 17:23.47 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 17:24.01 | david_v | heh why do you think so Chik? |
| 17:24.03 | Chikorita | he used ta luv him hiz best buddy on team Blitz |
| 17:24.03 | Merry | hi learner |
| 17:24.13 | Chikorita | lol kr sed he was |
| 17:24.19 | Merry | you weere on blitz? |
| 17:24.21 | Chikorita | i kno he was jus kiddn |
| 17:24.27 | Merry | carnage is LT.D |
| 17:24.30 | Chikorita | no i not on blitz |
| 17:24.31 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: :) quite true |
| 17:24.58 | JBDiGriz | Merry: How do you know carnage is Lt.D? |
| 17:25.10 | learnerAtWork | chika's a rebel through and through |
| 17:25.16 | Chikorita | yay :) |
| 17:25.17 | Merry | it's a known fact |
| 17:25.21 | david_v | btw i saw Lt.D online the other day |
| 17:25.25 | Chikorita | mee 2 |
| 17:25.28 | Merry | you did? |
| 17:25.30 | Merry | hmmm |
| 17:25.33 | david_v | noted his IP and stuck with that |
| 17:25.34 | Merry | that's carnage |
| 17:25.40 | david_v | yes you said so :) |
| 17:25.43 | Merry | oooooooo |
| 17:25.48 | JBDiGriz | Merry: You have heard these things on the net, but the net is not fact. |
| 17:26.09 | david_v | well it's actually not a "fact", but it's very likely |
| 17:26.11 | Merry | Spaceman Spiff my best BZBuddy got his IP |
| 17:26.12 | Chikorita | <no comment> |
| 17:26.20 | Chikorita | :x |
| 17:26.29 | david_v | next time i see Carnage i'll take his IP... |
| 17:26.37 | JBDiGriz | How many people have access to that IP? |
| 17:26.49 | david_v | hmm, hmm |
| 17:27.03 | Merry | Well, Spacey was an admin on turkey |
| 17:27.09 | david_v | me, Ches, [dmp], bzgirl, CapN, Spiff supposedly... |
| 17:27.17 | david_v | i can't list them right away |
| 17:27.22 | JBDiGriz | I've already noted that Carnage and Lt.D have the same IP, but too many people make assumptions based on the info presented here. |
| 17:27.31 | Merry | sm was one right? |
| 17:27.43 | JBDiGriz | I also have done some other independent investigations. |
| 17:27.45 | david_v | just those two characters for a nick, Merry? |
| 17:27.54 | Chikorita | Carny iz LT.D's nicer ego ..jus leave him b |
| 17:28.09 | Merry | he's insulteeed me |
| 17:28.14 | Merry | and lego |
| 17:28.15 | Chikorita | Carnage= Dr. Jekyll LT.D= Mr. Hyde |
| 17:28.17 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: It's going to get boring in a month! |
| 17:28.19 | david_v | heh |
| 17:28.22 | Merry | hahahahah |
| 17:28.34 | Chikorita | i like da carny side |
| 17:28.36 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 17:28.46 | david_v | reminds me, i just noticed the "picture" thread on bzbb the other day |
| 17:28.50 | Chikorita | o? |
| 17:28.52 | Merry | na he swears too much |
| 17:28.56 | david_v | but i have just silly photos ;) i don't want to upload anything here :) |
| 17:29.01 | Merry | so doe da LT.D |
| 17:29.07 | david_v | bad cameras, bad face... =) |
| 17:29.21 | Merry | 8-) |
| 17:29.24 | Chikorita | only swears wen he upset wif himself... |
| 17:29.25 | david_v | Carnage behaves mostly i think |
| 17:29.37 | david_v | but then i don't know what he does when no admin is on :) |
| 17:29.37 | Merry | david do you have an AIM IM? |
| 17:29.52 | david_v | AIM? why not ICQ, (MSN), YIM, Jabber? :) |
| 17:29.54 | david_v | hehe sure |
| 17:29.56 | Merry | he |
| 17:30.13 | Merry | he's told lego to go to h...e...l.....l.. |
| 17:30.18 | Chikorita | who did? |
| 17:30.19 | david_v | hmmm |
| 17:30.27 | Merry | carnu |
| 17:30.30 | Merry | y |
| 17:30.32 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 17:30.48 | Merry | Legolas |
| 17:30.49 | Merry | hehe |
| 17:30.51 | Merry | w/e |
| 17:30.52 | Chikorita | wel wen peepz say stuff like dat 2 mee i jus laff it off |
| 17:31.00 | david_v | Merry: would you like my handle? :) |
| 17:31.08 | Merry | handle? |
| 17:31.13 | david_v | nick |
| 17:31.14 | david_v | for AIM |
| 17:31.17 | Chikorita | unless itz really really sumtin disgusting.. |
| 17:31.20 | Merry | ya |
| 17:31.27 | Merry | your sn |
| 17:31.35 | Chikorita | o u have AIMs too davy? |
| 17:31.42 | david_v | yeah |
| 17:31.44 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: why a month? |
| 17:31.50 | david_v | i use gaim so i get AIM, MSN and Jabber at the same time |
| 17:31.59 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: School starts. |
| 17:32.02 | david_v | and YIM supposedly, but i couldn't register the other day... their service didn't work |
| 17:32.04 | learnerAtWork | ah, hehehe |
| 17:32.14 | Chikorita | kewl davy |
| 17:32.14 | Merry | I have msn and aim' |
| 17:32.21 | Merry | ngive me both |
| 17:32.23 | Merry | ya both |
| 17:32.34 | learnerAtWork | nya ngive both |
| 17:32.38 | learnerAtWork | n:) |
| 17:32.39 | Chestal | give me your aim id, can never have enough people in my buddy list ;-) |
| 17:32.46 | david_v | hehe |
| 17:32.48 | Chikorita | i heard dat Windows worm spread thru msn an icq |
| 17:32.54 | david_v | soon i need to mass-mail you guys :) |
| 17:33.03 | Merry | lol verry funny |
| 17:33.23 | Chikorita | Chestal: mine iz Chikumz33 |
| 17:33.29 | Merry | my IM is StephanieNMax AIM |
| 17:33.38 | Merry | msn MerryRox9219 |
| 17:33.55 | Merry | leg and I would like you AIM sn |
| 17:34.04 | Merry | screen name |
| 17:34.29 | Merry | hello? |
| 17:35.24 | david_v | weird MSN doesn't work with that nick |
| 17:35.24 | Merry | g2g |
| 17:35.26 | Merry | bye |
| 17:35.29 | david_v | cya Merry |
| 17:35.52 | david_v | Merry: BTW i PMed my nicks there, maybe you missed them |
| 17:35.53 | Chestal | JBDiGriz: I also use gaim. I miss a 'last seen' attribute for each buddy, that would be helpful in detecting 'dead' ids |
| 17:36.13 | Chestal | chiko, david: you two not online on gaim now, or hiding? |
| 17:36.32 | Chestal | aim, that is |
| 17:36.37 | Chikorita | im not on AIM at da momo |
| 17:36.39 | david_v | i am online |
| 17:36.46 | JBDiGriz | Chestal: I pretty much stick with irc and ichat. |
| 17:36.58 | Chestal | ichat? |
| 17:37.05 | david_v | im chat i guess |
| 17:37.09 | david_v | like in Trillian or gaim |
| 17:37.15 | david_v | or? =) |
| 17:37.15 | Chikorita | iz icq like irc? |
| 17:37.23 | JBDiGriz | ~ichat |
| 17:37.24 | david_v | ICQ is like AIM |
| 17:37.29 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 17:37.33 | david_v | but better... but both are from AOL anyway |
| 17:37.38 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 17:37.54 | david_v | some would spell AOL with six letters :) |
| 17:37.54 | Chikorita | AOHell |
| 17:37.59 | david_v | like i said ;) |
| 17:38.00 | Chikorita | haha |
| 17:38.02 | Chikorita | yup |
| 17:38.05 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 17:38.14 | JBDiGriz | ichat is the instant messaging application from Apple which includes audio/video transmission. |
| 17:38.19 | david_v | oh |
| 17:38.24 | Chestal | ah, should've known |
| 17:39.01 | learnerAtWork | it's rather good stuff |
| 17:39.22 | david_v | anyone who has this problem? i can't get anything but session cookies on bzbb |
| 17:39.24 | david_v | quite annoying |
| 17:39.32 | JBDiGriz | Especially with the iSight |
| 17:39.36 | david_v | having to type in password and nick each time |
| 17:40.01 | Chestal | david_v: hmm, works flawless for me |
| 17:40.33 | david_v | hm |
| 17:40.39 | learnerAtWork | thanks for reminding me, jb -- been meaning to get one of those |
| 17:40.40 | david_v | i even deleted the cookie and tried but it didn't work |
| 17:40.56 | david_v | Chestal: would you know if there is any domain other than *.bakadigital.com that needs cookie access? |
| 17:41.12 | david_v | just in case, my block list is rather long... |
| 17:41.52 | Chestal | david_v: hmm, my cookie list is rather long, so hard to say |
| 17:42.27 | Chestal | I got 3 cookies from .bzbb.bakadigital.com |
| 17:42.44 | Chestal | and one .bzbb.homelinux.org, but I guess that this one is older |
| 17:43.00 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Do you get the dev discount now? |
| 17:44.56 | Chikorita | maybee disable cookies? |
| 17:45.28 | david_v | Chestal: doh this is stupid. *.bakadigital.com = allow, bzbb.bakadigital.com = deny :) but i thought i had looked through this before... |
| 17:45.56 | david_v | hmm... still can't register on Yahoo |
| 17:46.13 | david_v | it works all the way to the last submit form |
| 17:46.54 | Chikorita | r u tryin 2 log onto Ychat? |
| 17:47.11 | learnerAtWork | jb: plan on buying the select tomorrow |
| 17:47.19 | Chikorita | i used 2 use yahoo voice chat.. |
| 17:48.04 | Chikorita | brb |
| 17:48.31 | learnerAtWork | jb: fed discount puts the isight at 137 |
| 17:48.55 | david_v | Chikorita: i'm trying to get YIM to work |
| 17:49.16 | david_v | BTW while i'm here... would anyone know how i would get "dead keys" to work with non-GTK apps? GTK apps seem to be the only ones that work |
| 17:49.27 | david_v | plus it worked before i upgraded X to 4.3.0 i think |
| 17:50.17 | david_v | i've tried some Googling, tried #gentoo but nobody responds :) |
| 17:50.23 | david_v | they usually do, though |
| 17:50.34 | Chikorita | i might reinstall YIM , i tho dat Hello Kitty IM background was so kewl |
| 17:50.42 | david_v | heh |
| 17:50.54 | david_v | but it should be easily removed i think, only i've never tried the program |
| 17:51.04 | Chikorita | an da new list of smilies dey have iz neet 2 |
| 17:51.23 | david_v | don't talk to me about that, i don't even have a webcam :) |
| 17:51.36 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 17:52.13 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 17:52.26 | Chikorita | lol |
| 17:52.29 | david_v | summer monkey heh |
| 17:52.39 | david_v | but hey, haven't seen kkkk for a while |
| 17:52.47 | learnerAtWork | eek |
| 17:52.56 | david_v | no, kkkk ;) |
| 17:53.10 | david_v | brb :) |
| 17:56.32 | prot-work | yay i'm here |
| 17:56.50 | learnerAtWork | Ssssshhhh.. everyone stop talking about him |
| 17:58.13 | learnerAtWork | cap, what'd you think? |
| 17:58.39 | patlabor221 | I'm sure cap would never do that with a primate |
| 17:58.43 | patlabor221 | opps |
| 17:58.48 | patlabor221 | wrong channel |
| 17:58.50 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 18:00.03 | JBDiGriz | I thought cap enjoys staring at primates in tennis skirts? |
| 18:00.30 | prot-work | only evolved primates |
| 18:00.41 | patlabor221 | that what you call it? |
| 18:00.42 | JBDiGriz | Hairless Apes! |
| 18:00.59 | patlabor221 | I was under the impresion that women didn't like to be called hairless apes |
| 18:01.00 | learnerAtWork | return to planet of the hairless apes |
| 18:01.12 | prot-work | =) |
| 18:03.05 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Pssst, tank tops and cheerleader outfits. |
| 18:03.15 | prot-work | tank tops? |
| 18:03.28 | JBDiGriz | learner understands. |
| 18:03.45 | patlabor221 | they play in bikinis out here |
| 18:03.51 | prot-work | amazing... |
| 18:03.56 | prot-work | wmp9 installed without needing a reboot |
| 18:05.01 | prot-work | ooooh |
| 18:05.10 | learnerAtWork | *ahem!* |
| 18:05.11 | david_v | bah, i suck today |
| 18:05.13 | prot-work | AOL is blocking email from our class B |
| 18:05.35 | Chestal | btw.: why are tank tops called "tank tops"? |
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| 18:05.48 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 18:05.51 | prot-work | Chestal: because its the traditional outfit of the gunner |
| 18:05.51 | patlabor221 | learner don't the have ladys out there were you are? |
| 18:06.03 | prot-work | :o |
| 18:06.37 | prot-work | every spring i get to see "Farrand Field" turn into "Farrand Beach" - its kind of weird :) |
| 18:06.53 | david_v | prot-work: i'm worried, something wrong with your installation? |
| 18:06.58 | learnerAtWork | pat: no, not really |
| 18:07.08 | prot-work | david_v: hm? the email? |
| 18:07.11 | david_v | prot-work: maybe it's a hacked version that works :) |
| 18:07.17 | david_v | no Windows |
| 18:07.26 | prot-work | oh, wmp |
| 18:07.36 | prot-work | no - its been the same updating all of these machines |
| 18:07.47 | david_v | yeah i know i was just kidding |
| 18:07.55 | prot-work | *really creepy* btw |
| 18:07.57 | david_v | but to install XP the other day i had to reboot i don't know how many times |
| 18:08.06 | david_v | hehe |
| 18:08.18 | prot-work | at the beginning of the summer i had to reinstall 10 2k machines |
| 18:08.22 | prot-work | it was painful |
| 18:08.33 | david_v | urg |
| 18:16.43 | Chestal | I only installed 2k onmy own and that was painful enough |
| 18:23.35 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: what kind? :) |
| 18:24.28 | learnerAtWork | shall i list it's position on top 500? |
| 18:24.54 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: yes |
| 18:25.10 | learnerAtWork | shame it's not one of the top 5 -- those are way cool |
| 18:26.08 | learnerAtWork | it's in the top 25, though |
| 18:26.13 | prot-work | which one? |
| 18:35.59 | david_v | [dmp]: 15 minutes to boot? you easily beat the school computers i used LOL :) |
| 18:36.57 | [dmp] | david_v: belive me, calico was getting somewhat impatient when i had to reboot before a match :) |
| 18:37.09 | david_v | i don't believe it ;) |
| 18:57.23 | *** part/#bzflag drinian (~drinian@pcp153139pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 18:57.48 | learnerAtWork | so many silent lurkers in here.. |
| 19:00.06 | scanline | boing! |
| 19:00.35 | scanline | gonk{work} can probably be easily made un-silent un-lurking |
| 19:05.12 | learnerAtWork | http://www.connect-dots.com/Poofs/chewbacca.html |
| 19:21.15 | david_v | i'm away for 40 minutes, and you have typed 8 lines. that's speedy :) |
| 19:30.36 | david_v | heh |
| 19:34.39 | *** join/#bzflag tea|tree_ (~tea|tree@pD9E9500F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:34.54 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 19:37.43 | learnerAtWork | chika.. |
| 19:37.56 | learnerAtWork | and chestal.. |
| 20:02.15 | gonk{work} | scanline: who says I am silent lurkering? |
| 20:08.41 | david_v | guys. you're running illegal software. close your computers immediately. SCO has declared the GPL invalid ;) |
| 20:08.55 | david_v | what's next? heh :) |
| 20:11.56 | scanline | gonk{work}: learnerAtWork probably |
| 20:12.10 | scanline | david_v: damn, I guess I'll have to turn myself in for writing a lot of illegal code too |
| 20:12.26 | learnerAtWork | *ahem* |
| 20:12.30 | david_v | scanline: why do it when SCO can do it for you? ;) |
| 20:14.29 | david_v | they're prepared to sue every single end user now |
| 20:14.38 | david_v | in their wicked minds, that is |
| 20:16.34 | david_v | McBride probably bought drugs for all the stock money |
| 20:18.00 | david_v | umm k? |
| 20:18.09 | patlabor221 | very very small background images |
| 20:18.16 | patlabor221 | take forever to repeat |
| 20:19.02 | patlabor221 | yay now I can put a good BG image in BZBB :) |
| 20:19.15 | david_v | hm |
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| 20:19.26 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 20:19.27 | scanline | why does it need a background image? |
| 20:19.30 | david_v | usually you just make them 50x2 or so to avoid that... should be enough |
| 20:19.42 | doug__ | moin TimRiker |
| 20:19.46 | patlabor221 | the image in question was 1x4 |
| 20:20.25 | patlabor221 | scanline, for base usablitly no it dosn't NEED anything, I just have an idea for a subtle texture to the outer BG |
| 20:20.28 | david_v | yeah, too small indeed. it probably doesn't have a decent system for repeating without losing speed |
| 20:20.48 | patlabor221 | firebird does it fine, but ie choked |
| 20:20.58 | david_v | heh |
| 20:21.01 | scanline | hmm.. 1x4... about all you can do is an aqua-style interlace effect :) |
| 20:21.04 | patlabor221 | increasing the image to 100x100 make it a lot faster |
| 20:21.09 | david_v | maybe it rereads the image :) |
| 20:21.13 | patlabor221 | scanline is smart |
| 20:23.09 | patlabor221 | the mozilla people must have had the same problem and fixed it |
| 20:23.19 | patlabor221 | I do like the look of the interlace things |
| 20:24.07 | patlabor221 | file size for the BG images went from 50 bytes to 337 bytes, so I'm ok with that :) |
| 20:24.15 | scanline | :) |
| 20:25.10 | patlabor221 | just find it odd that I speed up a page by making it larger :) |
| 20:26.06 | david_v | well the same area has to be filled in either way :) |
| 20:26.12 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:26.38 | patlabor221 | just when I made it, I thought I was doing good by making the image as small as posible |
| 20:26.44 | patlabor221 | to minimse load time |
| 20:26.46 | david_v | hm |
| 20:27.08 | scanline | well, when both images are smaller than an ethernet frame it shouldn't change that much |
| 20:27.16 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:27.28 | david_v | hehe |
| 20:27.40 | david_v | wouldn't be noticeable anyway |
| 20:27.43 | patlabor221 | they both take the same time to get there |
| 20:28.15 | david_v | i think IE might be handling the parts individually. i.e. painting one picture, then going to the right, until it has to go to the next line and so on |
| 20:28.26 | patlabor221 | probably |
| 20:28.30 | david_v | so if it can draw 100 pixelsa at a time instead of 4... |
| 20:28.34 | david_v | *pixels |
| 20:28.36 | patlabor221 | I think firebird does more stuff with off screen bitmaps |
| 20:29.05 | david_v | how's off screen related? |
| 20:29.24 | david_v | or am i misinterpreting you there? |
| 20:29.38 | patlabor221 | I think the premake repeat buffers off screen (faster in mem), then blit those to the screen |
| 20:29.53 | patlabor221 | instead of bliting each one |
| 20:30.00 | david_v | k |
| 20:30.12 | patlabor221 | it seems to slam out each table |
| 20:30.34 | david_v | brb |
| 20:33.49 | scanline | that's the only way I found to do fast tiled blits in Xlib |
| 20:37.41 | patlabor221 | seems like a logical thing, just a bit of mem to get to an optimal blit size |
| 20:38.23 | david_v | yes |
| 20:38.40 | david_v | even i did that in my "games" that i tried to make (Assembler and 320x200 :) |
| 20:39.04 | david_v | eliminates flicker as well |
| 20:39.32 | scanline | well, it helps when you're using hardware acceleration.. but if you're writing the blitters yourself it's easy to make one that's pretty efficient at tileing |
| 20:40.11 | scanline | can do nice tricks like writing one horizontal span of tiles then duplicating that block of tiles vertically |
| 20:40.21 | david_v | yes that's what i was thinking |
| 20:40.26 | scanline | and of course eliminating a lot of redundant pointer math |
| 20:40.42 | david_v | but on the other hand i also thought about what happens if the bg image is large vertically |
| 20:41.03 | david_v | not nice :) |
| 20:41.15 | scanline | well, that doesn't matter as much since any code that has to run per-line isn't nearly as expensive as per horizontal tile |
| 20:41.26 | david_v | no i mean memory-wise |
| 20:41.33 | david_v | you'd have to store quite a bit |
| 20:41.36 | scanline | no |
| 20:41.40 | scanline | only if it's large horizontally |
| 20:41.50 | scanline | and you could put reasonable limits on that |
| 20:42.10 | scanline | er wait, you mean the image to be tiled |
| 20:42.12 | scanline | :) |
| 20:42.17 | david_v | well your nick indicates you should know what you're talking about, but... :) |
| 20:42.19 | scanline | yeah.. you'd have to put some limitations on that |
| 20:42.23 | david_v | yes ;) |
| 20:42.41 | david_v | heh |
| 20:43.01 | scanline | er... |
| 20:43.07 | scanline | what am I saying, no you wouldn't |
| 20:43.13 | david_v | you still get the same problem if the image is something like 1x800 though |
| 20:43.24 | david_v | well 1x800 is pointless, but say 2x800 |
| 20:43.25 | scanline | you don't store this in a separate image, you copy from the top portion of your destination buffer |
| 20:43.32 | david_v | not pointless actually, btw |
| 20:43.35 | scanline | so the first row of tiles is copying from the original image |
| 20:43.48 | scanline | then you copy from that row in the destination buffer to below that in the destination buffer |
| 20:44.11 | david_v | hmm |
| 20:44.27 | david_v | i say go for the draw-everything-first-and-show-it-then theory instead, easier to code :) |
| 20:44.31 | scanline | it should work in every case except when you're drawing into a nonrectangular region |
| 20:44.54 | scanline | this doesn't have anything to do with whether you double-buffer or not |
| 20:44.57 | david_v | i think it's rather pointless though |
| 20:45.15 | scanline | no.. I used this algorithm in picogui's linear VBLs, it works quite nicelyt |
| 20:45.17 | scanline | er, nicely |
| 20:45.20 | david_v | no i know, but i say plain double-buffering is better than using this kind of technique |
| 20:45.29 | scanline | this doesn't have anything to do with double-buffering |
| 20:45.36 | scanline | it's just how you blit a tiled image |
| 20:46.11 | [dmp] | seems like David is learning alot about opengl :-) |
| 20:46.12 | david_v | what's VBL? |
| 20:46.22 | scanline | video base library... a picogui thingy |
| 20:46.23 | david_v | umm... hmm... yea sure ;) |
| 20:46.33 | scanline | this isn't something you'd do in OpenGL |
| 20:46.40 | scanline | at least probably not... |
| 20:46.42 | david_v | Windows just changed interface. looks like KDE now. don't know why :) |
| 20:46.56 | david_v | OpenGL browser? ;) |
| 20:47.03 | david_v | with VRML and all, why not :) |
| 20:47.07 | scanline | well, OpenGL already does fast tiling |
| 20:47.11 | david_v | hehe |
| 20:47.18 | david_v | true |
| 20:47.21 | scanline | and this relies on being able to efficiently copy from destination buffer to destination buffer |
| 20:47.37 | scanline | this driver I used it in is mainly for PDAs where you can just memory-map the framebuffer directly |
| 20:47.43 | david_v | oh |
| 20:47.54 | scanline | no hardware acceleration |
| 20:47.58 | david_v | that changes things |
| 20:48.00 | scanline | though it works fine in X too |
| 20:49.05 | david_v | PDAs don't have a significant display size anyway i think |
| 20:49.33 | david_v | i don't know the memory performance figures on the other hand |
| 20:49.38 | scanline | they're getting bigger.. and you still have to be able to blit efficiently, since CPU is more limited |
| 20:49.49 | scanline | the zaurus C700 has a 640x480 display |
| 20:49.53 | david_v | oh |
| 20:50.02 | david_v | i'm a bit outdated ;) |
| 20:50.14 | scanline | most PDAs these days have 320x240 displays... |
| 20:50.18 | david_v | btw i don't have a PDA... only seen them |
| 20:50.22 | scanline | the C700 is the first with 640x480 |
| 20:50.35 | david_v | what are the dimensions? |
| 20:50.36 | scanline | the Palm-style 160x160 displays are pretty outdated now |
| 20:50.56 | scanline | don't know off the top of my head.. but the C700's 640x480 is about the same size as most PDAs' 320x240 |
| 20:51.00 | scanline | really crisp display |
| 20:51.13 | david_v | hm |
| 20:51.27 | scanline | and Qtopia runs dreadfully slow, as usual :) |
| 20:51.44 | david_v | now what is that? a game? |
| 20:51.57 | scanline | no.. a PDA environment based o Qt |
| 20:52.01 | scanline | s/o/on/ |
| 20:52.05 | david_v | k |
| 20:52.14 | scanline | it's what pretty much all linux PDAs ship with |
| 20:52.40 | *** join/#bzflag dougAtWork (~dheckaman@64-44-153-2.user.uswo.net) |
| 20:52.56 | david_v | so all people think Linux is that slow now :) |
| 20:53.36 | scanline | it's worse than usual on the C700, since it uses the older XScale CPU that has a nasty cache bug |
| 20:53.49 | bryjen | notice all these folks -AtWork. not -Working, just -AtWork. :) |
| 20:53.49 | scanline | it's 400mhz, but generally runs slower than the 200mhz SA1110 |
| 20:54.06 | david_v | hehe |
| 20:54.28 | david_v | nothing wrong with having two homes :) |
| 20:54.39 | david_v | k cya |
| 20:54.43 | bryjen | mhz ain't everything |
| 20:54.56 | david_v | nope. GHz is :) |
| 20:55.30 | dougAtWork | :) |
| 20:56.36 | *** join/#bzflag strayer (~strayer@p50912B39.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:56.42 | bryjen | just wait till somebody does an asynchronous processor. No Hz! |
| 20:57.07 | [dmp] | hi strayer |
| 20:57.17 | strayer | hey.. :) |
| 20:57.17 | david_v | well that would be the ideal of course |
| 20:57.46 | learnerAtWork | bryjen: what are you trying to say? :) |
| 20:57.51 | learnerAtWork | about my AtWork :P |
| 20:58.00 | david_v | hey strayer |
| 20:58.03 | [dmp] | strayer: Thanks for the link. Im surely gonna test it,when i got some more code to test with :) |
| 20:58.13 | david_v | learnerAtWork: we were just praising your long, nice nickname :) |
| 20:58.23 | bryjen | and doug and Quol and and and |
| 20:58.30 | strayer | [dmp]: ok...do so :) |
| 20:58.57 | david_v | [dmp]: BTW trying to find out what to reply to your post regarding atmosphere |
| 20:59.01 | JBDiGriz | I think learnerAtWork started the trend, and others started emulating him |
| 20:59.09 | david_v | didn't find this to be a problem yet |
| 20:59.22 | david_v | a learner emulator? :) |
| 20:59.35 | JBDiGriz | doug is a learner emulator |
| 20:59.38 | bryjen | Then there's the omni-di-present captain_proton |
| 21:00.09 | strayer | ehem...has anyone an info what caused the electrical power outage in parts of North America? |
| 21:00.11 | bryjen | Hehe. Its a two-fisted channel! ;) |
| 21:00.16 | learnerAtWork | or a learner bot |
| 21:00.16 | JBDiGriz | but captain goes by so many different names, we're never sure who he is! |
| 21:00.46 | JBDiGriz | strayer: the windows worm ;-) |
| 21:00.51 | david_v | so true. maybe i am him without knowing it :) |
| 21:00.52 | learnerAtWork | strayer: looks like a fire in NY ended up overloading a local power grid |
| 21:01.11 | learnerAtWork | cascading the Noreast area |
| 21:01.31 | [dmp] | david_v: Well, could be me. I just had enough. But i know others are having the same trouble. Some ignores everyone when they play; but i'd rather not play ctf then.. The team-element is the fun part of ctf, otherwise i could play FFA instead. |
| 21:01.34 | learnerAtWork | and perhaps a couple unrelated power issues thrown in to boot |
| 21:01.38 | [dmp] | david_v: And you dont need to flame me :-) |
| 21:01.43 | strayer | learner: thx...U R better informed than the tv-channels :) |
| 21:02.41 | strayer | k |
| 21:03.19 | learnerAtWork | that and having a slashdot subscription and hearing about things 20/30 minutes in advance doesn't hurt |
| 21:03.47 | dougAtWork | *GASP* |
| 21:03.55 | strayer | :o) |
| 21:03.58 | learnerAtWork | give that man some air |
| 21:04.11 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: It looks like variable arguments in defines on Apple's cpp have some issues. |
| 21:04.12 | dougAtWork | what might your password be for slashdot? |
| 21:04.21 | *** join/#bzflag BaDiN (Paramount@adslsapo-b3-248-96.telepac.pt) |
| 21:04.23 | BaDiN | hi |
| 21:04.24 | learnerAtWork | my password is dougAtWork |
| 21:04.29 | dougAtWork | aha |
| 21:04.30 | BaDiN | i've just received this message: |
| 21:04.30 | BaDiN | [22:07] MSN Anonymous Message Sender - http://www.messengergeeks.ath.cx: This is a BZFlag alert, all team leaders must proceed to ducati (port 5156) immediatly! |
| 21:04.30 | BaDiN | Session Close (nvd216ejvuag@hotmail.com): Thu Aug 14 22:07:52 2003 |
| 21:04.35 | david_v | [dmp]: are you implying that i should flame my flames? :) |
| 21:04.36 | bryjen | this time of year its normally many-many air-conditioners pulling all the current |
| 21:04.55 | [dmp] | david_v: Yeah. Then Im sure i wont need to read your post :) |
| 21:05.00 | dougAtWork | BaDiN: then hurry up |
| 21:05.13 | BaDiN | there's no one there... |
| 21:05.32 | david_v | someone joking supposedly |
| 21:05.33 | strayer | BaDiN: yeah..I see |
| 21:05.37 | dougAtWork | yea, well, your the only team leader |
| 21:05.43 | JBDiGriz | Our leaders have failed us! |
| 21:05.44 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 21:05.56 | strayer | *rotfl* |
| 21:06.14 | JBDiGriz | It's time to recall all of them and vote for new leaders! |
| 21:06.25 | bryjen | An anonymous message that ends with and email addy ? |
| 21:06.32 | BaDiN | hah :) |
| 21:06.52 | dougAtWork | they can run for govener |
| 21:06.55 | dougAtWork | ;) |
| 21:07.13 | JBDiGriz | Only if they have $3500 and 65 signatures. |
| 21:07.34 | learnerAtWork | I'll sign |
| 21:07.35 | dougAtWork | gee, thats no problem, just ask the other contenders :) |
| 21:07.49 | david_v | sure, that's $54 from each person :) |
| 21:08.11 | david_v | or ask 5000 people and you get below $1 :) |
| 21:09.20 | bryjen | we've got 32 people here... |
| 21:09.34 | david_v | ChanServ and ibot too? :) |
| 21:09.37 | JBDiGriz | Are you counting all of the AtWork's? |
| 21:09.37 | david_v | cool |
| 21:09.43 | david_v | lol |
| 21:10.03 | bryjen | why not? At least they're not dead. |
| 21:10.09 | learnerAtWork | I'm not paying twice |
| 21:10.20 | learnerAtWork | but i'll sign twice |
| 21:10.27 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: Are you sure? Maybe they're work is in a mortuary. |
| 21:10.47 | bryjen | Talk about laying down on the job! |
| 21:10.57 | JBDiGriz | Is ibot alive? |
| 21:10.59 | david_v | learnerAtWork: your will has bugs in it, but don't worry, we'll debug you for free :) |
| 21:11.11 | dougAtWork | oooh, all of north east america is without power.. |
| 21:11.12 | dougAtWork | cool |
| 21:11.13 | bryjen | I didn't say they were alive. Just not dead. |
| 21:11.24 | dougAtWork | ~alive |
| 21:11.28 | dougAtWork | nope |
| 21:11.28 | JBDiGriz | ibot, are you dead? |
| 21:11.29 | | JBDiGriz: i don't know |
| 21:11.33 | david_v | heh |
| 21:11.38 | JBDiGriz | lol |
| 21:11.49 | david_v | i think it's a standard answer :) |
| 21:12.08 | bryjen | ibot, what is the standard answer? |
| 21:12.09 | | I think you lost me on that one, bryjen |
| 21:12.17 | david_v | heh |
| 21:12.33 | *** join/#bzflag larsl (~larsl@c213-100-62-55.swipnet.se) |
| 21:12.38 | JBDiGriz | yes, but sometimes those lead to hilarious results. |
| 21:13.07 | *** join/#bzflag jane (jane@3eea2745.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:13.37 | BaDiN | g2g, cu |
| 21:13.40 | JBDiGriz | It used to be the Unix command "make love" would respond "don't know how to make love" |
| 21:14.01 | dougAtWork | make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop |
| 21:14.02 | learnerAtWork | hi jane |
| 21:14.07 | jane | hi |
| 21:14.10 | dougAtWork | hi |
| 21:14.16 | strayer | hiho |
| 21:14.31 | JBDiGriz | We used to add a target which would be echo "not war?" |
| 21:14.43 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: =) |
| 21:15.01 | jane | does anybody know how i can get rid of the (johndoe@bla.com) behind my nick? |
| 21:15.08 | larsl | -anonymous |
| 21:15.14 | jane | in bzflag that is |
| 21:15.16 | learnerAtWork | jane: there's a resource file |
| 21:15.17 | larsl | Or add a line in your config file. |
| 21:15.21 | JBDiGriz | Add an email line to your .bzflag file |
| 21:15.24 | learnerAtWork | you add: email whatever |
| 21:15.55 | dougAtWork | Add a line to your config file! |
| 21:15.55 | learnerAtWork | jane: windows or non-windows |
| 21:16.13 | bryjen | on windows, the file is bzflag.bzc or something like that |
| 21:16.20 | jane | windows |
| 21:16.42 | learnerAtWork | then use notepad or wordpad and edit bzflag.bzc |
| 21:16.58 | bryjen | its probly in your "My Documents" folder |
| 21:17.03 | jane | where do i add it? |
| 21:17.07 | jane | i found it |
| 21:17.13 | strayer | notepad is better...wordpad sometimes adds some code...dunno why |
| 21:17.15 | learnerAtWork | anywhere in the file will work |
| 21:17.19 | bryjen | just add a new line to the file |
| 21:17.38 | learnerAtWork | well.. not "anywhere" .. |
| 21:17.41 | jane | but do i literally ad emailwhatever? |
| 21:17.46 | jane | add i mean |
| 21:17.53 | bryjen | email whateveryouwant |
| 21:17.58 | JBDiGriz | Did the bug in 1.9 get fixed where it removes a blank email line? |
| 21:18.00 | strayer | yupp |
| 21:18.11 | dougAtWork | like email himynameisjaneandIlikebzflag |
| 21:18.20 | dougAtWork | :) |
| 21:18.27 | jane | ;-) |
| 21:18.45 | jane | say, are u the same as bzdoug? |
| 21:18.49 | dougAtWork | yep |
| 21:18.55 | jane | nice to meet u |
| 21:18.56 | dougAtWork | and breadhat, redhat, teh13 |
| 21:18.58 | dougAtWork | :) |
| 21:19.03 | learnerAtWork | the mostly infamous himself :) |
| 21:19.15 | JBDiGriz | A legend in his own mind! |
| 21:19.18 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 21:19.31 | strayer | the evil has a lot of names... |
| 21:19.52 | bryjen | as opposed to the evil that shall remain nameless.... |
| 21:20.19 | bryjen | ...or the evil whose name you dare not speak.... |
| 21:20.20 | learnerAtWork | *cough* |
| 21:20.45 | dougAtWork | good luck |
| 21:20.46 | dougAtWork | :P |
| 21:21.05 | learnerAtWork | another trillian?? |
| 21:21.09 | learnerAtWork | *sigh* |
| 21:21.18 | JBDiGriz | That's the IRC client quit line |
| 21:21.20 | dougAtWork | yea, like, who uses trillian? |
| 21:21.29 | JBDiGriz | spiff and jane |
| 21:21.30 | learnerAtWork | yea, i know |
| 21:21.40 | strayer | trillian is a nreally nice tool....but i don't like it :) |
| 21:21.44 | dougAtWork | but I have the pro version |
| 21:22.00 | JBDiGriz | People need to realize they can't be truly anonymous on the net |
| 21:22.03 | dougAtWork | well, I like it because it supports all the chat clients without running 5 apps |
| 21:23.15 | *** join/#bzflag jane (jane@3eea2745.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:23.22 | jane | it worked |
| 21:23.27 | jane | thx |
| 21:23.38 | JBDiGriz | Don't be sure of you anonymity though! |
| 21:23.43 | strayer | JBDiGriz: if the people think they R anonymous they can sleep easier and the crackers can work without trouble :) |
| 21:23.43 | jane | why |
| 21:23.54 | dougAtWork | its well nigh impossible to be anonymous on the web |
| 21:24.00 | jane | i know |
| 21:24.05 | dougAtWork | but in bzflag... |
| 21:24.10 | jane | yes |
| 21:24.13 | dougAtWork | only the admin can know your ip :) |
| 21:24.15 | dougAtWork | I think |
| 21:24.23 | larsl | I wonder how much more I would lag if I tunneled all my BZFlag connections through a Zebedee tunnel at school... |
| 21:24.24 | strayer | dougAtWork: no..U R wrong |
| 21:24.26 | jane | and u are one? |
| 21:24.34 | larsl | dougAtWork: The IP is sent to all players in 1.7. |
| 21:24.34 | dougAtWork | strayer: oh? |
| 21:24.38 | dougAtWork | ick |
| 21:24.46 | dougAtWork | thats totaly lame :) |
| 21:24.51 | larsl | It just isn't displayed in the official version. |
| 21:24.54 | dougAtWork | its all supposed to go through the server |
| 21:25.01 | strayer | dougAtWork: until 1.7g2 its possible to show the players IPs as a simple user |
| 21:25.07 | larsl | It's been removed in CVS. |
| 21:25.19 | dougAtWork | larsl: I saw zebedee :) its pretty cool |
| 21:25.21 | dougAtWork | yea |
| 21:27.11 | bryjen | dougAtWork: it does all go thru the server, but the game uses your IP & port number as you player ID (right?) |
| 21:27.52 | dougAtWork | ah, interesting... I wonder if that can be changed... |
| 21:28.06 | bryjen | It has. 1.7 does that. 1.9 does not. |
| 21:28.24 | strayer | dougAtWork: yes...it can... |
| 21:28.38 | larsl | It might be possible to patch the 1.7 servers to send dummy IPs to other players. |
| 21:28.42 | david_v | BTW... |
| 21:28.56 | david_v | in 1.9, do the admins still see IPs? i am just curious in case i was misunderstanding things |
| 21:29.08 | david_v | ... before, when someone mentioned future releases |
| 21:29.19 | JBDiGriz | admins can see ip in 1.9 |
| 21:29.23 | larsl | I think the /playerlist command still works as usual. |
| 21:29.23 | david_v | k |
| 21:29.42 | bryjen | david_v: yeah, the server will always have your IP (it needs it to communicate with you!) and the admins can ask the server for it |
| 21:29.44 | learnerAtWork | heh, funny jane |
| 21:30.04 | david_v | bryjen: hehe i know that, i was simply asking if the admins would have the rights to see them ;) |
| 21:30.10 | dougAtWork | naw, really? |
| 21:30.31 | dougAtWork | well, if not, then the admins could just run a netstat and get it that way |
| 21:30.44 | david_v | another BTW, are there plans for IPv6 support? |
| 21:30.47 | dougAtWork | and banning works that way |
| 21:30.52 | dougAtWork | david_v: HAH! |
| 21:30.53 | larsl | TimRiker has been talking about it. |
| 21:30.55 | david_v | or is there already :) |
| 21:30.56 | dougAtWork | er :) |
| 21:30.58 | learnerAtWork | tim was adding ipv6 support last I saw/heard |
| 21:31.02 | dougAtWork | cool |
| 21:31.05 | david_v | dougAtWork: yelling at me? hehe :) |
| 21:31.05 | learnerAtWork | or at least he talked about it |
| 21:31.12 | david_v | k learner |
| 21:31.14 | dougAtWork | it just popped out |
| 21:31.16 | dougAtWork | :) |
| 21:31.18 | david_v | lol |
| 21:31.32 | david_v | can't you pop out some money too? :) |
| 21:31.34 | dougAtWork | darn voice recognition :) |
| 21:31.41 | david_v | sure... sure ;) |
| 21:31.54 | david_v | smilie recognition? :) |
| 21:32.00 | dougAtWork | yea :) |
| 21:32.20 | david_v | i somehow doubt you... or you have a supercomputer at home :) |
| 21:32.21 | dougAtWork | just yell out COLON LEFT PARENTHESES :) |
| 21:32.27 | david_v | in one second :) |
| 21:32.43 | bryjen | ~spell parentheses |
| 21:32.44 | | 'parentheses' may be spelled correctly |
| 21:32.46 | david_v | would probably sound like COLOLEFPARANTHES |
| 21:33.12 | david_v | hm, sounds Greek :) |
| 21:33.13 | dougAtWork | lol |
| 21:34.45 | dougAtWork | Eeel Ooooh eeel |
| 21:34.55 | bryjen | hash bang slash bin slash bash |
| 21:34.59 | Chestal | tothe CTF league participants: There has been a match between TLZ and The Moles, it ended 4-4. Before the Match it was: TLZ 1516, The Moles 1515. Now the scores are swapped :-) |
| 21:35.25 | [dmp] | Close race :) |
| 21:35.25 | strayer | hui :) |
| 21:35.29 | JBDiGriz | Sounds like TLZ was short changed. |
| 21:35.34 | david_v | hehe |
| 21:36.16 | david_v | [dmp]: replied now :) |
| 21:36.52 | strayer | good night... |
| 21:36.56 | david_v | n... |
| 21:37.06 | david_v | people give me time to type one character :) |
| 21:37.15 | david_v | can't be here all the time heh |
| 21:38.23 | dougAtWork | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010322 |
| 21:38.38 | david_v | Chestal: makes me wonder... is the score based on which number the team is in the list, or based on the actual rankings? |
| 21:38.54 | david_v | or just a diff between the rankings? |
| 21:39.18 | david_v | hmm strike the latter :) |
| 21:39.23 | david_v | and the first :) |
| 21:39.26 | Chestal | david_v: on the ratings |
| 21:39.39 | Chestal | david_v: the formula is in the FAQ (modulo rounding issues) |
| 21:39.40 | david_v | any exact formula to show? heh |
| 21:39.42 | david_v | oh |
| 21:39.53 | [dmp] | david_v: Good you feel that way. :-) |
| 21:40.16 | david_v | hm, weird... did i just miss it before or is the score explanation new? |
| 21:40.38 | david_v | been a few weeks since i checked it, possibly |
| 21:40.41 | david_v | [dmp]: heh :) |
| 21:40.42 | dougAtWork | aha, heres the good one :) |
| 21:40.43 | [dmp] | My like this; "After that some rounding magic to integer is applied" |
| 21:40.54 | [dmp] | david_v: it have been there of ages :) |
| 21:40.58 | dougAtWork | http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/01mar/uf002847.gif |
| 21:41.03 | Chestal | david_v: has been in there for a year or so :-) |
| 21:41.04 | [dmp] | (before my time, anyway) |
| 21:41.20 | david_v | hmmm |
| 21:42.01 | [dmp] | I told you... :-) |
| 21:42.39 | david_v | dougAtWork: hehe :) user friendly is nice :) |
| 21:42.50 | david_v | don't read it regularly though, i prefer: |
| 21:42.58 | dougAtWork | close browser. close browser. close browser. close browser. |
| 21:43.02 | david_v | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/index.html |
| 21:43.05 | david_v | hehe yea :) |
| 21:43.48 | [dmp] | Kill david, kill david, kill david, kill david :-) |
| 21:43.57 | [dmp] | didnt work |
| 21:44.06 | [dmp] | must be a xchat/lilo bug |
| 21:44.09 | david_v | hey now... ;) |
| 21:44.32 | [dmp] | :) |
| 21:45.12 | david_v | oops |
| 21:45.17 | david_v | wrong command :) |
| 21:45.40 | david_v | ;) |
| 21:45.57 | david_v | semi-global :) |
| 21:47.21 | [dmp] | Swedish "missile"? Its that abit early? You outta wait until midnight/newyears eve :-) |
| 21:47.23 | [dmp] | Whee.. |
| 21:47.26 | [dmp] | A blue one |
| 21:48.05 | david_v | *worm |
| 21:49.12 | [dmp] | uh, worms? It they i'll die tomorrow, when the sun hits sweden |
| 21:49.22 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 21:49.43 | [dmp] | scary thing if i got blast.. if it reboots every few minuts and it takes it 15 mins to boot up :-) |
| 21:50.09 | bryjen | as if the average windoze luser backs up anything... |
| 21:50.33 | david_v | [dmp]: hehe |
| 21:50.40 | [dmp] | stop watching cartoon network, david_v :-) |
| 21:51.02 | david_v | oh, you mean that's someone's nose? :) |
| 21:51.22 | JBDiGriz | It might be ;^) |
| 21:52.24 | patlabor221 | windows backs stuff up by itself :) |
| 21:52.30 | david_v | including the worm :) |
| 21:52.52 | patlabor221 | if it hits a sytstem file, system restore can get it. |
| 21:52.55 | david_v | i wonder how much the backup is worth though |
| 21:53.01 | david_v | you can easily delete that folder |
| 21:53.12 | david_v | i had to once, to get M$ Agent to work |
| 21:53.19 | david_v | or some upgrade or something |
| 21:53.27 | patlabor221 | if system restore is on, in XP that folder is read only |
| 21:53.49 | david_v | i think it wasn't and i had system restore on |
| 21:53.58 | david_v | plus read-only is rather meaningless anyway in Windows |
| 21:54.04 | david_v | just Shift-Del enter, enter |
| 21:54.04 | patlabor221 | it's suposed to be protected |
| 21:54.34 | patlabor221 | dono, I don't do system restore |
| 21:54.35 | david_v | supposed is another thing :) |
| 21:54.42 | patlabor221 | I customse too much stuff :) |
| 21:55.10 | david_v | but i know that Windows XP kept putting files back into place that i didn't want it to put back :) that's why i had to go clean away some stuff in that folder |
| 21:55.26 | patlabor221 | there is a checkbox to turn it off |
| 21:55.55 | david_v | yes of course there is, this was a great while ago though when i was relatively new to XP |
| 21:56.23 | david_v | plus it wasn't that hard to do the manual work anyway |
| 21:57.19 | patlabor221 | true |
| 22:20.38 | [dmp] | &away |
| 22:24.21 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-90.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 22:25.12 | [dmp] | oops |
| 22:25.33 | patlabor221 | thought you were trying to be superman |
| 22:25.56 | [dmp] | hehehe |
| 22:26.11 | [dmp] | earlier i was close to writing :away |
| 22:26.33 | [dmp] | I know vim do alot of stuff, but i doubt it can help xchat understand that im busy |
| 22:26.50 | patlabor221 | ohh there is proibably a way to do it |
| 22:27.26 | JBDiGriz | It's easier in emacs ;{) |
| 22:28.09 | patlabor221 | I could make a VC plugin that would put IRC inside the ide :) |
| 22:29.44 | patlabor221 | don't know why you would want to tho :) |
| 22:30.46 | JBDiGriz | Because you're bored while waiting for a kernel compile. |
| 22:30.55 | prot-work | doodeedoo |
| 22:31.00 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 22:32.03 | prot-work | soooo |
| 22:32.05 | prot-work | learnerAtWork |
| 22:32.20 | prot-work | you got access to your toys, i just got access to mine |
| 22:34.34 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork, prot-work: Can we use your toys for cross development? |
| 22:34.39 | prot-work | cross? |
| 22:35.16 | JBDiGriz | Install gcc which outputs power-pc code? ;-) |
| 22:35.46 | [dmp] | Does a default windows installation puts bzflag into start->programs->bzflag? |
| 22:35.53 | prot-work | mine isn't a cycles-type supercomputer |
| 22:35.58 | prot-work | mine is a graphics-type supercomputer |
| 22:36.14 | patlabor221 | it should |
| 22:36.22 | JBDiGriz | It's no slouch in the cycles either. |
| 22:36.28 | prot-work | true, true |
| 22:36.46 | prot-work | but i already have a cluster of 32 DS20s that i can use for cycles |
| 22:38.08 | scanline | bah. who needs cycles when you have disk space? |
| 22:38.28 | prot-work | =) |
| 22:39.39 | prot-work | scanline: i told joe about the upgrade - he pondered about it, and decided that even though its ide (he's a scsi maniac), its still 1.2tb, and thats sexy |
| 22:39.51 | scanline | :) |
| 22:44.13 | [dmp] | would "c:\program files\bzflag 1.7g2\bzflag.exe" work, if you install bzflag without any modifications? |
| 22:44.37 | [dmp] | I got some player on here, who dosnt know how to use basic windows tools :-( |
| 22:44.53 | TimRiker | I've done some ipv6 tests, but not any live code yet. the issue is tracking both connection types. |
| 22:46.03 | TimRiker | what happens when you are on just ipv6 and ask bzfls for a server list? what if you are on both? I presume bzfls will need to be on both to check visibility of the servers. |
| 22:51.31 | *** part/#bzflag larsl (~larsl@c213-100-62-55.swipnet.se) |
| 23:09.41 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Don't forget the caffeine! |
| 23:11.53 | *** join/#bzflag sn0w_m0nkey (~guestuser@bgp01383177bgs.montbl01.nm.comcast.net) |
| 23:11.56 | sn0w_m0nkey | hi |
| 23:12.02 | [dmp] | Howdy |
| 23:12.06 | sn0w_m0nkey | anyone here admin at xmission? |
| 23:12.36 | sn0w_m0nkey | could use one for a cheat |
| 23:13.06 | sn0w_m0nkey | could use one for a cheat |
| 23:13.10 | sn0w_m0nkey | n:) |
| 23:13.14 | sn0w_m0nkey | n |
| 23:13.29 | JBDiGriz | Have you tried signing on as an observer with no call sign? It drives away a lot of cheats. |
| 23:13.43 | sn0w_m0nkey | this person been around before |
| 23:13.45 | TimRiker | who? |
| 23:13.46 | sn0w_m0nkey | wizardz |
| 23:14.01 | sn0w_m0nkey | changed back to normal client now |
| 23:14.48 | sn0w_m0nkey | i am franklin on that server |
| 23:15.42 | *** part/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-90.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 23:18.02 | sn0w_m0nkey | tnx |
| 23:31.08 | TimRiker | up to 65C now at 50C and dropping. |
| 23:34.13 | learnerAtWork | TimRiker: you can feel it real quick on a Ti book :) |
| 23:35.13 | TimRiker | down to 41C now |
| 23:35.23 | TimRiker | ~weather kdfw |
| 23:35.54 | TimRiker | only 80 out? sheesh, I should go drive with the top down. |
| 23:38.32 | JBDiGriz | ~weather ksan |
| 23:39.08 | *** join/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 23:39.13 | david_v | hey KR |
| 23:39.15 | KR | hi all |
| 23:39.29 | KR | howsit? |
| 23:39.44 | david_v | ok |
| 23:40.09 | KR | ever hear of a player "wizardz"? |
| 23:40.27 | david_v | only in the comments above that he's a supposed cheater |
| 23:40.29 | david_v | but never met him |
| 23:40.31 | JBDiGriz | just recently, we heard about him! |
| 23:40.38 | TimRiker | KR: just banned one on xmission. |
| 23:41.00 | KR | ahhh - he was just on ducati, tim - i kicked hinm there until he changed his nick (which said you were gay) |
| 23:41.33 | david_v | hm |
| 23:41.35 | KR | told him I doubt you kicked him without reason, and complain on bakdigital if he didnt like it :) |
| 23:41.36 | TimRiker | KR: yep, backlash from kicking him off xmission. /me notes that we really need a karma system. ;-) |
| 23:41.37 | david_v | that's bordering on a ban |
| 23:42.08 | JBDiGriz | some people need a major attitude adjustment, preferably with a tire iron. |
| 23:42.14 | KR | lol how true |
| 23:42.37 | KR | nlike that learner guy you were talking to last night ;) |
| 23:42.37 | TimRiker | KR: I had 5 different players all vote to kick him and 3 claim he was flying at will. |
| 23:42.54 | KR | wow - I'd say thats good reason :) |
| 23:42.58 | learnerAtWork | that learner guy is crazy |
| 23:43.02 | learnerAtWork | nuts i tell you |
| 23:43.07 | david_v | hmm? hehe |
| 23:43.13 | TimRiker | nyou chat on bzflag a lot? ;-) |
| 23:43.28 | KR | na bit :) |
| 23:43.30 | JBDiGriz | nnnnnnnnnot me! |
| 23:43.36 | KR | lol |
| 23:43.44 | learnerAtWork | never do that |
| 23:43.55 | KR | i told him as soon as he signed on he would have to change name or i would kick him |
| 23:43.56 | learnerAtWork | +) |
| 23:44.01 | *** join/#bzflag Merry (~Merry@adsl-68-78-101-78.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 23:44.03 | JBDiGriz | mwhat do you mean everyone can read this? |
| 23:44.08 | TimRiker | need bzflag shirts that say something like "nChat while you play" |
| 23:44.11 | Merry | helllo |
| 23:44.13 | captain_proton | TimRiker: hehe |
| 23:44.19 | KR | nno just your teammates when you use m |
| 23:44.20 | learnerAtWork | hehe, that would be xpilot, jb ;) |
| 23:44.35 | Merry | hey learner |
| 23:44.38 | captain_proton | learnerAtWork: or team, i suppose |
| 23:44.45 | KR | shhhh Merrys here now... |
| 23:44.51 | Merry | lol |
| 23:44.53 | TimRiker | "mLet's gang up on Blue" |
| 23:44.56 | learnerAtWork | ah .. hehe, forgot about that one cap :) |
| 23:44.59 | JBDiGriz | keep your comments pg |
| 23:45.02 | learnerAtWork | hi, merry :) |
| 23:45.12 | captain_proton | ,you suck! |
| 23:45.18 | Merry | how rude |
| 23:45.32 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 23:45.59 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: careful, there are laws about contributing to the delinquency .... |
| 23:46.10 | KR | any of you get affected by that power outage? |
| 23:46.17 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: true |
| 23:46.31 | JBDiGriz | Yeah, those east coast types have been complaining all day! |
| 23:46.38 | KR | don't make JB a delinquent like Merry is... |
| 23:46.54 | TimRiker | but we can't hear em cause their power's out! ;-) |
| 23:46.57 | KR | the new yawkers? |
| 23:47.02 | KR | lol |
| 23:47.27 | KR | makes it easier to get a slot on ducati :) |
| 23:47.39 | captain_proton | hmm...bzflag |
| 23:47.41 | TimRiker | ooh ohh, dcc me some pizza |
| 23:48.53 | Merry | don't hurt your head |
| 23:52.44 | Merry | I think that 'couple minutes' is like and our! |
| 23:52.46 | Merry | hour* |
| 23:54.21 | Merry | Or maybe....he went out for pizzaz |
| 23:54.27 | Merry | pizza |
| 23:54.29 | Merry | hehe |
| 23:54.42 | Merry | he might also do the pizzazz |
| 23:56.20 | [dmp] | Goodnight. |
| 23:56.30 | KR | hi dmp! |
| 23:56.32 | Merry | na night |
| 23:56.33 | KR | bye dmp! |
| 23:56.36 | patlabor221 | can somone go to a site for me? |
| 23:56.41 | KR | sure |
| 23:56.43 | Merry | syre |
| 23:56.44 | patlabor221 | http://jeffc.bakadigital.com/ |
| 23:56.45 | Merry | sure |
| 23:56.58 | patlabor221 | trying to see if the webcounter increments :) |
| 23:57.00 | KR | there now |
| 23:57.10 | patlabor221 | ok thanks |
| 23:57.24 | KR | did i increment? doesn't feel like it... |
| 23:57.57 | Merry | now what do I do |
| 23:58.09 | david_v | wb Merry |
| 23:58.16 | Merry | nm |
| 23:58.22 | Merry | wb merry??? |
| 23:58.24 | patlabor221 | it only does on uniques, it did, thanks |
| 23:58.26 | Merry | riight |
| 23:58.40 | david_v | well you were here before heh |
| 23:58.50 | KR | wtg Merry |
| 23:58.57 | KR | g/j |
| 23:59.23 | david_v | what does KR mean though? :) |
| 23:59.38 | Merry | kreaky rodent? |
| 23:59.42 | Merry | kreaky rat? |
| 23:59.42 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@ACA7F6DD.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:59.45 | KR | hey! :0 |
| 23:59.47 | Merry | hi chick |
| 23:59.50 | Merry | hhahaha |
| 23:59.52 | Merry | bahahahahha |
| 23:59.53 | Chikorita | hi merry |
| 23:59.59 | KR | hi chik |
