irclog2html for #bzflag on 20030808

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`00:14.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`mayhem....`
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`00:30.56`	`captain_proton`	`ooh that was fun =)`
`00:31.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`more tennis girls?`
`00:33.51`	`captain_proton`	`nah`
`00:33.59`	`captain_proton`	`actually played a little bit of this silly tank game`
`00:34.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`jumpless?`
`00:35.07`	`captain_proton`	`ducati`
`00:35.31`	`learnerAtWork`	`good man`
`00:36.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`not many better motivators for writing code :)`
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`00:57.49`	`TimRiker`	`bzflag icon for osx. what format is it in? who made it?`
`00:58.02`	`TimRiker`	`what other icons do we have I could use on the debian menus?`
`00:58.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`predates me -- I think pat made it`
`00:58.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`It's scheduled to get swapped with the "other" official icon next release`
`00:59.10`	`TimRiker`	`official icon? where?`
`00:59.19`	`learnerAtWork`	`there's an icon in the windows binary dir, iirc -- lemme check`
`00:59.22`	`TimRiker`	`does the windows binary have an icon now other than the BZ one?`
`00:59.59`	`learnerAtWork`	`er, well more official than the one osx uses..`
`01:00.13`	`learnerAtWork`	`the osx icon isn't even a bzflag tank :/`
`01:00.17`	`JBDiGriz`	`The format is Apple's icns, but I believe it can be translated to whatever you need.`
`01:02.07`	`TimRiker`	`so where's the windows one?`
`01:02.20`	`JBDiGriz`	`It was probably done by the guy who did the original port "Reid Ellis", and I would guess he just copied and pasted it into icns browser or something similar.`
`01:02.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`src/bzflag/bzflag.ico`
`01:05.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`tim: here's the mac one in png format for your amusement`
`01:05.19`	`learnerAtWork`	`http://brlcad.org/tmp/MacBZFlag.png`
`01:05.49`	`scanline`	`TimRiker: I have the bzflag tank in a blender model.. might be useful for making high quality icons`
`01:05.53`	`TimRiker`	`what is that? a tron tank?`
`01:06.04`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, don't ask -- I dunno :)`
`01:06.19`	`TimRiker`	`need a better icon than the BZ-FLAG one used on windows.`
`01:06.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`yes we do..`
`01:06.32`	`learnerAtWork`	`good idea scanline`
`01:06.41`	`scanline`	`http://navi.picogui.org/images/bzflag/rendered_tank.png`
`01:06.48`	`TimRiker`	`see package/rpm/*xpm for example.`
`01:07.11`	`TimRiker`	`scanline: no texture? ;-)`
`01:07.21`	`scanline`	`TimRiker: nah, that's patlabor's job`
`01:08.02`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'd like to see a radiosity or nice global illuminated version overlayed with the BZflag text..`
`01:08.22`	`learnerAtWork`	`maybe later I'll finally get back to it..`
`01:08.23`	`scanline`	`I tried using blender's radiosity solver on it, but it really has trouble with anything other than the cornell box it seems`
`01:08.26`	`TimRiker`	`a 64x64 with the text, and smaller ones with just the tank`
`01:08.31`	`TimRiker`	`bbiab`
`01:22.20`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): need icon`
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`02:02.57`	`Merry`	`bye`
`02:03.07`	`learnerAtWork`	`na-night`
`02:03.24`	`Merry`	`have a nice day or sleep!! :-)`
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`02:18.52`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (19 files in 7 dirs): Hooray, weakrefs now make Event about 10000x cooler`
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`02:23.53`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (2 files): Yay, the first real application for the weakref'ed observers- toggling the frame rate instrument`
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`02:32.07`	`learnerAtWork`	`~d`
`02:32.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`~quol`
`02:32.44`	`learnerAtWork`	`thorton?`
`02:33.32`	`learnerAtWork`	`looks more like he's getting rocked`
`02:40.12`	`captain_proton`	`bwahaha`
`02:40.20`	`captain_proton`	`jbd got to see the hammer land on ducati =)`
`02:40.28`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Viewport (Base.py): Fix a sprious onResize() that would get triggered via Viewport.Region(), causing it to pop out of fullscreen mode when turning on the frame rate widget`
`02:40.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe`
`02:46.42`	`captain_proton`	`hmm`
`02:46.48`	`captain_proton`	`so all the xpilot guys think i don't speak english`
`02:46.58`	`captain_proton`	`due to me spending too much time trying to figure out everything to talk`
`02:47.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`tu hablas ingles?!?!`
`02:47.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`chutri.. si supiera`
`02:48.02`	`captain_proton`	`whoa...`
`02:48.12`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: the video associated with that sumi-e paper thingy is VERY impressive`
`02:48.37`	`learnerAtWork`	`ugh.. don't make me have to download off my own crappy link .. :)`
`02:48.39`	`captain_proton`	`and i really respect their sense of style`
`02:48.46`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: download it!`
`02:48.48`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: URL?`
`02:48.55`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: http://brlcad.org/siggraph/S2003DVD2/content/sketches/supplemental/kang/kang.avi`
`02:49.03`	`scanline`	`thank ye`
`02:49.08`	`captain_proton`	`they're just showing off their renderer with a calm soundtrack`
`02:49.09`	`captain_proton`	`=)`
`02:55.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah.. non-photorealistic rendering paper?`
`02:56.04`	`captain_proton`	`ya`
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`03:02.05`	`heinola`	`hello all`
`03:07.33`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (Event.py): An extra set of parenthesis, the difference between fun bouncy little polygons and an ugly TypeError`
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`03:23.06`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: damn, I want a copy of this with better compression :)`
`03:24.27`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: which? the video?`
`03:24.45`	`scanline`	`yep`
`03:24.47`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Viewport (Base.py): Infinite recursion hasn't been known to improve the performance of most renderers`
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`03:33.38`	`scanline`	`grr...`
`03:34.00`	`scanline`	`insert() can't accept negative indices unless you're using python 2.3`
`03:35.15`	`captain_proton`	`not yet willing to require 2.3?`
`03:35.22`	`scanline`	`not for something this simple`
`03:35.31`	`scanline`	`I'm already requiring 2.2.1 :p`
`03:35.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`don't forget the little people`
`03:36.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`those that are less than 2.3 inches tall`
`03:36.13`	`scanline`	`well, so far I've had pretty good reasons for requiring new versions of python`
`03:36.59`	`scanline`	`iterators, lexical scoping, and weakref all are pretty new, and used by pybzflag in important way`
`03:38.03`	`scanline`	`I think what actually bumped it from 2.2 to 2.1 was the True/False constants`
`03:38.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's okay.. I'm running 2.3a so go right ahead :)`
`03:38.21`	`scanline`	`er, from 2.2 to 2.2.1`
`03:38.24`	`scanline`	`:)`
`03:38.56`	`scanline`	`hmm, it chokes pretty horridly running under 2.1`
`03:39.04`	`scanline`	`s/warning/error/`
`03:43.37`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (__init__.py):`
`03:43.38`	`CIA`	`Store the minimum required Python version in the BZFlag module, issue an`
`03:43.38`	`CIA`	`exception if the currently running interpreter isn't new enough.`
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`03:57.48`	`SGI`	`hello`
`03:57.54`	`SGI`	`~seen Quol`
`03:57.55`		`quol <~Quol@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 21h 45m 21s ago, saying: 'g'night all'.`
`03:58.11`	`SGI`	`:o)`
`03:58.26`	`SGI`	`I made a mistake on Quol server ....`
`03:58.35`	`learnerAtWork`	`again?! :)`
`03:58.39`	`SGI`	`end game and now I can connect`
`03:59.01`	`SGI`	`why`
`03:59.14`	`learnerAtWork`	`can or cannot?`
`03:59.24`	`SGI`	`nannot`
`03:59.27`	`SGI`	`ntoo tired`
`03:59.33`	`learnerAtWork`	`nok :)`
`03:59.35`	`SGI`	`arggggggggggggg`
`03:59.41`	`SGI`	`cannot connect`
`04:00.18`	`SGI`	`are you still in the office`
`04:00.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`yep`
`04:00.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`:(`
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`04:01.50`	`learnerAtWork`	`not sure why it'd keep you locked out (unless there's a player that won't quit)`
`04:02.30`	`SGI`	`i need to find quol`
`04:02.33`	`SGI`	`see you later`
`04:02.40`	`learnerAtWork`	`kay`
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`04:23.15`	`captain_proton`	`...channels?`
`04:26.06`	`learnerAtWork`	`irc channels`
`04:26.10`	`captain_proton`	`ah`
`04:26.32`	`learnerAtWork`	`helping some helpless souls in #macdev`
`04:26.41`	`captain_proton`	`i'm sorry`
`04:26.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`04:26.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`asking impossible questions in #bash too :)`
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`04:46.57`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Viewport (Base.py): More goop that halfway-fixes cleanup of viewport regions`
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`04:49.25`	`Chikorita`	`~d`
`04:49.37`	`Chikorita`	`ahh`
`04:50.14`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (Environment.py): Don't try to draw the clouds or mountains if we don't have multitexture, they don't work right at all`
`04:50.15`	`Carnage`	`chik what up with sgi`
`04:50.39`	`Carnage`	`we just finished a match and then he banned me from quols`
`04:51.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`he didn't ban you -- he issued an endgame by mistake and locked even himself out`
`04:51.50`	`Carnage`	`nno we rematched`
`04:51.56`	`Carnage`	`at ducati`
`04:52.18`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah..`
`04:52.23`	`Carnage`	`i shot myself when i droped the flag in the corner so sgi banned me from quols`
`04:52.37`	`Chikorita`	`hi carnie`
`04:52.41`	`Chikorita`	`hmm`
`04:52.46`	`Chikorita`	`dang`
`04:52.52`	`Carnage`	`said quote "ur a dirty player" and im banning u from quols`
`04:52.53`	`Chikorita`	`how much time was left in da match?`
`04:52.59`	`Chikorita`	`ooH`
`04:53.04`	`Carnage`	`no we finished the match`
`04:53.04`	`Chikorita`	`wut was da score?`
`04:53.15`	`Carnage`	`conspirators 5 avenger 1`
`04:53.20`	`Chikorita`	`hmm`
`04:53.22`	`learnerAtWork`	`hmm`
`04:53.26`	`Carnage`	`hmm`
`04:53.29`	`captain_proton`	`hmm`
`04:53.31`	`Chikorita`	`were u cussin?`
`04:54.14`	`Chikorita`	`anywayz itz a match so i tink cussin iz ok cuz u r all adults i tink`
`04:54.14`	`Carnage`	`no not 1 swear word during the match i made sure of it`
`04:54.23`	`Chikorita`	`o okies`
`04:54.45`	`learnerAtWork`	`that is a questionable tactic`
`04:54.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`personally I think it's okay (and I use it myself)`
`04:55.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`but I could see how others might not see it the same way`
`04:55.32`	`Chikorita`	`i tink maybee sgi made a mistake? by accident ?`
`04:55.39`	`Chikorita`	`or u tink he ban on purpose?`
`04:55.53`	`captain_proton`	`i used to use that tactic when i played bzflag`
`04:55.56`	`Chikorita`	`have u talk wif sgi yet an ask him Carny?`
`04:55.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'd argue that the strategy is valid just because I've seen plenty players do it when they shouldn't`
`04:56.02`	`Carnage`	`no he told me 3 times he was going to ban me then i shot him and got another capture then he left`
`04:56.23`	`Chikorita`	`i tink it iz legal 2 use it ,,,not alwayz effective buh itz up 2 da player`
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`04:56.37`	`Carnage`	`but 2 minutes left we argeed to end the match`
`04:56.45`	`Chikorita`	`o hi sgi`
`04:56.52`	`SGI`	`hi`
`04:56.53`	`Chikorita`	`;)`
`04:56.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`speak of the devil :)`
`04:57.00`	`Chikorita`	`here u chance carny...`
`04:57.04`	`Chikorita`	`heh`
`04:57.05`	`Carnage`	`i wounder why i cant get into quols`
`04:57.06`	`SGI`	`no way`
`04:57.21`	`Chikorita`	`sgi did u ban carny cuz u lost da match?`
`04:57.31`	`SGI`	`no`
`04:57.33`	`Carnage`	`sgi im not the only player who uses that tatic`
`04:57.38`	`Chikorita`	`wut happened?`
`04:57.43`	`Carnage`	`i was banned`
`04:57.48`	`SGI`	`tell you story carnage`
`04:57.55`	`Carnage`	`they all know mine`
`04:57.59`	`Chikorita`	`so u cant get onto Quol's no matta wut now?`
`04:58.02`	`captain_proton`	`SGI: you banned him, how about you say why?`
`04:58.16`	`SGI`	`i want to read his story`
`04:58.21`	`Carnage`	`im a "dirty player"`
`04:58.25`	`SGI`	`can you tell me again`
`04:58.36`	`SGI`	`im an idiot`
`04:58.52`	`SGI`	`nlast nite i was a f**c sick`
`04:58.55`	`Carnage`	`ok we were playing in a match i went to hide the flags and a shot myself`
`04:59.05`	`SGI`	`how many times`
`04:59.08`	`Carnage`	`sgi got mad`
`04:59.16`	`SGI`	`how many times`
`04:59.20`	`SGI`	`all game`
`04:59.27`	`Carnage`	`does it matter?`
`04:59.28`	`Chikorita`	`he sed he only cuss once`
`04:59.43`	`SGI`	`dropped the flag and blew your self up`
`04:59.51`	`Carnage`	`is there specific rule in which say i cant do that in a match`
`04:59.58`	`SGI`	`and bens he was closed to us base`
`05:00.08`	`Chikorita`	`ooH`
`05:00.26`	`SGI`	`I call that "a kind of cheating"`
`05:00.30`	`SGI`	`or not`
`05:00.39`	`Chikorita`	`dropped whose flag? his or urs?`
`05:00.47`	`Carnage`	`SGI u get mad cause i do it and u dont sat s**T when tlz does it`
`05:00.47`	`SGI`	`your spawn it was always close to bens`
`05:00.52`	`SGI`	`his`
`05:00.58`	`Chikorita`	`2 bad no ref was there 2 c dis :/`
`05:01.02`	`Chikorita`	`o i c`
`05:01.04`	`Carnage`	`SGI u get mad cause i do it and u dont sat s**T when tlz does it`
`05:01.09`	`SGI`	`he dropped his flag`
`05:01.21`	`Chikorita`	`yea TLZ duz dat stuff 2`
`05:01.28`	`SGI`	`mine flag too`
`05:01.32`	`Chikorita`	`in fact i learned it from watchin dem play`
`05:01.38`	`Carnage`	`me 2`
`05:01.47`	`SGI`	`he droped mine flag in his base`
`05:01.54`	`Carnage`	`second that doesnt really give u the right to ban me`
`05:01.56`	`SGI`	`and blew him self up`
`05:02.03`	`Carnage`	`whats ur point`
`05:02.11`	`Carnage`	`tlz always does it`
`05:02.14`	`SGI`	`and you dont have right to call me idiot`
`05:02.16`	`Chikorita`	`TLZ uses substitution too , wen da other team player iz close 2 dere flag dey sub jus so dey can get him in da corna`
`05:02.31`	`Carnage`	`when did i call u an idiot?`
`05:02.39`	`Chikorita`	`sgi he call u an idiot for banning him..?`
`05:02.46`	`SGI`	`if you want we can check the log`
`05:02.52`	`Carnage`	`sure`
`05:02.52`	`patlabor221`	`the server owner made him an admin with ban permisisons, that gives him the right. you would want to take it up with the server op.`
`05:03.08`	`SGI`	`talk to quol`
`05:03.12`	`Carnage`	`lets look thrue the log`
`05:03.33`	`SGI`	`he can tell all the times you call me with different "nicknames'`
`05:03.53`	`Carnage`	`like?`
`05:03.53`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: care for a little xpilot?`
`05:04.04`	`Chikorita`	`wel ok lets not get OT , u banned him cuz of hiz tactics SGI`
`05:04.11`	`learnerAtWork`	`cap, hehe`
`05:04.17`	`Chikorita`	`an not cuz of he call u an idiot`
`05:04.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`are you any good?`
`05:04.29`	`captain_proton`	`i kinda suck`
`05:04.31`	`captain_proton`	`=)`
`05:04.46`	`SGI`	`you forgot f**k sick last nite`
`05:04.52`	`captain_proton`	`if you're interested, 'nuke dark hell' - deepcore.uoregon.edu`
`05:04.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, that would be a fun twist -- though I haven't played in years, I probably suck now`
`05:05.09`	`Chikorita`	`he prolly call u an idiot cuz he felt u wrongly ban him`
`05:05.16`	`SGI`	`before`
`05:05.24`	`Chikorita`	`did he call u f**c sick b4 da match ? or during?`
`05:05.34`	`Carnage`	`yes ok sgi i did indeed swear "last night" but does that have anything to do with our match?`
`05:05.34`	`SGI`	`yesterday nite`
`05:05.43`	`SGI`	`you swear to much`
`05:05.57`	`Chikorita`	`wel den dat has nuffin 2 do wif da match den`
`05:06.08`	`Carnage`	`did i swar ince during the match`
`05:06.16`	`Carnage`	`tell me yes or no`
`05:06.19`	`SGI`	`chicko can you talk with me direct chat`
`05:06.26`	`Carnage`	`yes or no sgi`
`05:06.36`	`Chikorita`	`u ban him afta da match u lost an den u say it was cuz he call u name da nite b4??! dat iz messed up sgi`
`05:06.41`	`SGI`	`i advised to you ...`
`05:07.10`	`Chikorita`	`sgi im sowee buh i feel u bann carny wrongly`
`05:07.29`	`SGI`	`can you talk to me PVT`
`05:07.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`maybe if we talk about quol some more .. he'll show up too -- and then we can all roast some marshmellows :)`
`05:07.48`	`Chikorita`	`i wont werk sgi i accepted it buh 4 sum reason it didnt go thru`
`05:08.05`	`Carnage`	`u know what sgi if U want ill quit the CTF league`
`05:08.16`	`patlabor221`	`again it's up to each server op to give out admins`
`05:08.51`	`Carnage`	`i know but whats his reason for banning me`
`05:08.52`	`Chikorita`	`buh itz ok for carny to inquire directly wif da admin an ask wut he was banned for`
`05:09.07`	`patlabor221`	`yes it is`
`05:09.15`	`Chikorita`	`itz ok 2 ask da accuser wut he iz accused of`
`05:09.21`	`patlabor221`	`but it dosnt' have to change anythin g`
`05:09.30`	`patlabor221`	`servers are private`
`05:09.54`	`Chikorita`	`wee coild resolve it here buh apparently no 1 iz giving so i guess take it up wif Quol he wil b da judge`
`05:10.00`	`Chikorita`	`could*`
`05:10.05`	`patlabor221`	`as it is his server`
`05:10.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`Server admins have complete domain over their turf, fair or not`
`05:10.26`	`patlabor221`	`perhaps you should get the leauge to have sanctioned servers`
`05:10.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`if someone finds it unfair, they shouldn't match therre`
`05:10.52`	`patlabor221`	`a yup`
`05:10.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`pat: not a bad idea`
`05:11.02`	`Carnage`	`what wasnt fair`
`05:11.16`	`patlabor221`	`so take it up with the server op`
`05:11.28`	`patlabor221`	`you know how to contact him`
`05:11.50`	`Carnage`	`SGI ur pissed cause i shoot myself to save the trouble of going the long way is that it?`
`05:12.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`who controls/manages the league?`
`05:12.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`ches?`
`05:12.21`	`SGI`	`carnage talk with quol`
`05:12.29`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Viewport (Base.py): A much cleaner solution to resize propagation that doesn't require the children list, which was a memory management headache`
`05:12.38`	`SGI`	`and probably you will be the new admin`
`05:12.54`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: i especially like the asscannons`
`05:13.01`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`05:13.02`	`Chikorita`	`u cant expect everyone 2 play da way u want dem 2 Sgi`
`05:13.04`	`Carnage`	`I would but i cant Since U U U banned me and every time i go on irc hes at weork so how would ulike me to tallk to quol?`
`05:13.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`if I weren't still at work, cap... :)`
`05:13.15`	`learnerAtWork`	`now would be a perfect time :)`
`05:13.17`	`captain_proton`	`:)`
`05:13.17`	`Chikorita`	`sure he may use dirty tactics buh it iz not illegal`
`05:13.22`	`Chikorita`	`he did not cheat`
`05:13.27`	`SGI`	`send a pm to Quol`
`05:13.33`	`scanline`	`Carnage: got email?`
`05:13.42`	`learnerAtWork`	`Carnage: got milk?`
`05:13.49`	`scanline`	`Carnage: got root?`
`05:13.50`	`Carnage`	`sometimes`
`05:14.04`	`Chikorita`	`it would b nice if u could resolve dis here`
`05:14.16`	`patlabor221`	`well there are certon opionons in the comunity about the habits of ol carnie.`
`05:14.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`I don't think much more can happen without Quol`
`05:15.04`	`Carnage`	`this is just not worth it in a few days if this doesnt clear up im leaving the league forever.`
`05:15.28`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's your perrogative, Carny -- though I'd urge you not to over this`
`05:15.34`	`learnerAtWork`	`there's plenty of better reasons :)`
`05:15.35`	`SGI`	`carnage...stop dont be a kids now`
`05:15.50`	`SGI`	`you tell to every one`
`05:16.03`	`scanline`	`learnerAtWork: like finding out your cat's allergic to tanks?`
`05:16.03`	`SGI`	`the admin is quol send a pm to quol`
`05:16.09`	`Chikorita`	`so sgi u bann carny from Quol forever now?`
`05:16.14`	`SGI`	`nno`
`05:16.26`	`SGI`	`we dont ban anybody forever`
`05:16.29`	`patlabor221`	`he's on dynamic, it won't stick`
`05:16.37`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah.. how I do love the bz nstutter :)`
`05:16.48`	`patlabor221`	`carnie knows one restart'll get him back`
`05:16.49`	`SGI`	`he will banned all the times "swearing"`
`05:16.58`	`SGI`	`and treat the people like an idiot`
`05:17.26`	`Carnage`	`oh now its treat people like an idiot before it was calling them 1`
`05:17.28`	`scanline`	`if pybzflag ever has a client, its talk key won't default to 'n' :)`
`05:17.29`	`SGI`	`we dont bann anybody forever`
`05:17.32`	`Chikorita`	`if u kno carny cusses u should not agree 2 even match wif him . buh yet u did . u already 2 ban him even b4 da match dat iz wrong`
`05:17.52`	`SGI`	`thanks chicko'`
`05:17.59`	`SGI`	`sorry carnage`
`05:18.07`	`SGI`	`im asking sorry`
`05:18.19`	`Chikorita`	`an yet u say ur excuse 2 bann him was becuz of da way he plays . so y u keep changin ur reasons?>`
`05:18.38`	`Chikorita`	`an yet da way he plays iz perfectly legal`
`05:18.45`	`Chikorita`	`so u wrongly bann him'`
`05:18.51`	`Chikorita`	`i wil talk wif Quols`
`05:18.57`	`SGI`	`ok`
`05:19.06`	`Chikorita`	`i am friends wif Quols too an he wil listen 2 mee for Carny`
`05:19.13`	`SGI`	`ok`
`05:19.14`	`*** part/#bzflag learnerAtWork (sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net)`
`05:19.16`	`Carnage`	`i accept ur apporigies and for whatever u think i did wrong i appoligize`
`05:19.25`	`Chikorita`	`an carny i am an admin for kelsoes so next time u match go there`
`05:19.38`	`Chikorita`	`an i wil b ref or have a ref there next time u match`
`05:19.41`	`*** join/#bzflag learnerAtWork (sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net)`
`05:19.44`	`learnerAtWork`	`eek`
`05:19.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`how the heck did I do that..`
`05:20.08`	`Carnage`	`its ok chik i dont hate gsi`
`05:20.17`	`captain_proton`	`you wanted to go home and play xpilot`
`05:20.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe`
`05:20.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`I do :)`
`05:20.44`	`Carnage`	`sgi r u going to unban me or do i have to get quol 2?`
`05:21.12`	`captain_proton`	`and now`
`05:21.18`	`captain_proton`	`i think i'll try my hand at this bzflag thing`
`05:21.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`05:21.32`	`patlabor221`	`don't you suck at that game cap?`
`05:21.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`Carnage and SGI, you both should still have a little chat with Quol`
`05:21.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`patlabor221: oh yeah .. he sucks`
`05:22.06`	`learnerAtWork`	`especially at decks`
`05:22.13`	`patlabor221`	`yeah`
`05:22.15`	`learnerAtWork`	`can't jump work jack`
`05:22.21`	`learnerAtWork`	`worth`
`05:22.23`	`Chikorita`	`all i hafta say iz , it looks more bad 2 u sgi than 2 carny cuz u bann him afta u lost da match`
`05:22.23`	`patlabor221`	`all he ever does is shot people`
`05:22.26`	`patlabor221`	`he never blows up`
`05:23.08`	`Chikorita`	`dat iz mah 2 cents i go now`
`05:23.12`	`Chikorita`	`bye all nite nite`
`05:23.14`	`SGI`	`sorry i missed something`
`05:23.19`	`scanline`	`patlabor221: bzflag scores are like golf, right?`
`05:23.31`	`patlabor221`	`yeah`
`05:23.33`	`patlabor221`	`I am the masta`
`05:23.48`	`scanline`	`patlabor221: except... with an absolute value! so you start out with the best possible score and it gets worse if it goes positive or negative`
`05:24.04`	`scanline`	`the game is the art of finely balancing wins and losses`
`05:24.26`	`SGI`	`yes learner its ok for have a chat with quol`
`05:25.00`	`SGI`	`are you still here carnage..go to QUol`
`05:25.10`	`SGI`	`and send to him a PM`
`05:25.34`	`Carnage`	`there is really no sence`
`05:25.52`	`learnerAtWork`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:26.27`	`Carnage`	`this is going to take days to solve with quol`
`05:26.38`	`SGI`	`probably weeks`
`05:26.51`	`Carnage`	`and ffor what cause i shot myself`
`05:26.52`	`SGI`	`you can to play on ducati :o)`
`05:27.04`	`Carnage`	`there is no onwe on ducati`
`05:27.04`	`SGI`	`or kelosoes`
`05:27.05`	`learnerAtWork`	`So.. nobody answered my question about who "controls" the league...`
`05:27.12`	`Carnage`	`chestal`
`05:27.31`	`Carnage`	`kelsoes is private noone will see me on`
`05:27.36`	`SGI`	`he sleeping at this time`
`05:27.48`	`learnerAtWork`	`He the only one??`
`05:27.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`a one man army?`
`05:28.06`	`Carnage`	`he he i can get in`
`05:28.08`	`SGI`	`my sir there isnt any server "CTF" :o)`
`05:28.19`	`SGI`	`lol`
`05:28.19`	`Carnage`	`sgi how long u ban me for?`
`05:28.29`	`SGI`	`10`
`05:28.51`	`Carnage`	`i still sent quol the pm`
`05:28.59`	`SGI`	`ok`
`05:29.15`	`SGI`	`write a long letters`
`05:29.25`	`SGI`	`and on bzbb too`
`05:29.25`	`Carnage`	`already sent it tho`
`05:29.42`	`SGI`	`to me???`
`05:29.54`	`Carnage`	`sgi we already solved this problem we dont kneed any more conflict`
`05:30.07`	`Carnage`	`learner shh`
`05:30.14`	`SGI`	`you pul out`
`05:30.48`	`Carnage`	`no we solved this problem`
`05:31.07`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, I'm comfortable saying that because I know ches can kick my bz*ss most days`
`05:31.21`	`Carnage`	`now the problem is with SKI`
`05:31.34`	`learnerAtWork`	`Skiing is fun`
`05:31.39`	`Carnage`	`cause of our problem hes thinking of leaving`
`05:31.52`	`learnerAtWork`	`he's going skiing? cool`
`05:32.00`	`Carnage`	`nno`
`05:32.07`	`learnerAtWork`	`nnyes? :)`
`05:32.13`	`Carnage`	`HE IS LEAVING BZFLAG`
`05:33.04`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: obviously you're being serious`
`05:33.13`	`Carnage`	`wounders if learner is always this annoying`
`05:33.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`always`
`05:33.38`	`Carnage`	`sounds like me`
`05:33.40`	`learnerAtWork`	`you need to spend more time in irc, or you'd know that :)`
`05:33.47`	`Carnage`	`me?`
`05:33.51`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: hehe`
`05:33.57`	`Carnage`	`lol`
`05:34.12`	`patlabor221`	`naw he dosnt' kick cats`
`05:34.29`	`Carnage`	`id rather kick a dog`
`05:34.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`I have a tendancy to put cats to sleep (against their own will) -- it's quite hilarious`
`05:34.55`	`Carnage`	`lol`
`05:35.26`	`learnerAtWork`	`you can knock them out just like people cutting off circulation in the neck`
`05:35.28`	`patlabor221`	`prozac would probably work too`
`05:35.42`	`SGI`	`morphine`
`05:35.51`	`SGI`	`100cc`
`05:35.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'll take two of either of those, please`
`05:36.01`	`SGI`	`ar eyou still here`
`05:36.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`Pretty please`
`05:36.17`	`SGI`	`is pretty`
`05:36.27`	`SGI`	`bad mode`
`05:36.35`	`SGI`	`ARE YOU STILL HERE`
`05:36.42`	`Carnage`	`me?`
`05:36.47`	`scanline`	`SGI: YES!!!!!!!!!`
`05:36.49`	`SGI`	`yes`
`05:36.54`	`SGI`	`why`
`05:36.58`	`Carnage`	`would u like me to leave`
`05:37.38`	`SGI`	`you start to scream because i banned you from quol`
`05:37.40`	`Carnage`	`kicks ur dog`
`05:37.51`	`scanline`	`there you go, friendly apologies!`
`05:37.52`	`SGI`	`never mind`
`05:37.53`	`SGI`	`sorry`
`05:38.00`	`*** kick/#bzflag [Carnage!~jeffm@adsl-64-172-199-52.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by patlabor221 (kick the dog!)`
`05:38.10`	`scanline`	`aww, I don't think he liked my cookie`
`05:38.16`	`*** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-29.ADSL.mnsi.net)`
`05:38.22`	`Carnage`	`that was rude`
`05:38.28`	`gonkulator`	`lol`
`05:38.30`	`gonkulator`	`it was funny`
`05:38.31`	`scanline`	`Carnage: you didn't like the engraved oreo?`
`05:38.35`	`patlabor221`	`I thought it was funny`
`05:38.51`	`Carnage`	`no i dont like being /kicked for no reason`
`05:38.52`	`gonkulator`	`who here has a "bitch job"`
`05:38.54`	`Carnage`	`its not`
`05:39.01`	`patlabor221`	`there was a rason`
`05:39.02`	`learnerAtWork`	`We're all full of humor tonigth :)`
`05:39.07`	`Carnage`	`ur very immature jeff`
`05:39.12`	`patlabor221`	`ok nate`
`05:39.23`	`patlabor221`	`turn on autojoin`
`05:39.33`	`learnerAtWork`	`carny, that link is funny`
`05:39.35`	`Carnage`	`shoots himself`
`05:39.49`	`learnerAtWork`	`I like the cat carrier though.. :)`
`05:39.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`http://flash.funnyjunk.com/pictures/catcarrier.jpg`
`05:40.06`	`captain_proton`	`your daughter kick my dog!`
`05:40.11`	`Carnage`	`lol`
`05:40.28`	`learnerAtWork`	`We have a big print of that image here in the office :)`
`05:40.31`	`Carnage`	`i would post it on bzbb but its not approate`
`05:40.42`	`gonkulator`	`learnerAtWork: I have just that poster at my work`
`05:40.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`05:41.01`	`gonkulator`	`learnerAtWork: beautiful, isn't it :)`
`05:41.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`"sometimes your kitty needs Tough Love" :)`
`05:41.39`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, beautiful`
`05:41.50`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: lemme guess...allergic to cats?`
`05:42.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe`
`05:42.13`	`Carnage`	`nno he kicks them`
`05:42.44`	`captain_proton`	`hopeless bleak dispair, it was always there, and then one day, it disappeared`
`05:42.52`	`learnerAtWork`	`actually ever so slightly to heavy pet dander`
`05:43.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`cat or dog, but I deal`
`05:43.24`	`captain_proton`	`ah`
`05:43.34`	`captain_proton`	`most people i know who find that poster really funny are virulently allergic =)`
`05:43.46`	`captain_proton`	`because cats seem to know exactly who to rub up against >:P`
`05:43.53`	`patlabor221`	`or just jerks :)`
`05:43.56`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Yes indeedy, UIs are now real classes`
`05:43.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`took me a whole summer to realize that it was the damn cat giving me a stuffy morning head`
`05:44.57`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'd go to work, go to the gym and I'd be fine -- I'd get back home and by the next morning I would be slightly stuffed up -- drove me nuts`
`05:45.39`	`learnerAtWork`	`Then after one particularly long session of "playing" with the cat -- it dawned on me that it might actually "be" the cat`
`05:46.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`that cat was nuts`
`05:47.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`he'd randomly attack you (claws and teeth)`
`05:48.00`	`learnerAtWork`	`sometimes he'd camp out and wait for you to walk unsuspectingly by without socks on`
`05:48.34`	`*** join/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net)`
`05:48.50`	`SGI`	`arggggg dammmmm modem`
`05:48.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`wasn't me, sgi :)`
`05:49.06`	`SGI`	`who kick me out`
`05:49.15`	`learnerAtWork`	`nobody`
`05:49.18`	`SGI`	`i asled sorry`
`05:49.20`	`captain_proton`	`really!`
`05:49.23`	`captain_proton`	`it wasn't learnerAtWork`
`05:49.23`	`SGI`	`asked`
`05:49.34`	`SGI`	`I asked sorry`
`05:49.42`	`patlabor221`	`that peer, he's allways uppity`
`05:49.55`	`captain_proton`	`just because learner's nickname is 'peer'...`
`05:49.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, you think I'm gonna let that slip down anytime soon, sgi?? :)`
`05:50.03`	`SGI`	`probably tonight i pist off too many person`
`05:50.12`	`*** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-107-29.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net)`
`05:50.21`	`Carnage`	`like me?`
`05:50.24`	`captain_proton`	`'allo JBDiGriz`
`05:50.28`	`JBDiGriz`	`hi`
`05:50.31`	`SGI`	`hi`
`05:50.31`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'll be hounding you with that ban for months still :)`
`05:50.37`	`Carnage`	`welcome to the fight JB`
`05:50.51`	`JBDiGriz`	`who's fighting and why?`
`05:51.00`	`SGI`	`can you change topic`
`05:51.18`	`Carnage`	`in the left we have SGI and in the rught we have a carny`
`05:51.30`	`SGI`	`or if you want i can buy a 30 second on tv`
`05:51.31`	`Carnage`	`oh sry didnt see ur post`
`05:51.39`	`SGI`	`channel 4 its ok for you`
`05:51.54`	`Carnage`	`yep`
`05:52.28`	`captain_proton`	`both of them have their ghetto blasters powered up, this should be an exciting match!`
`05:53.01`	`SGI`	`is done`
`05:53.19`	`SGI`	`my towel is in the floor`
`05:53.44`	`SGI`	`if he keep going its like ...kicking a cat`
`05:54.04`	`*** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com)`
`05:54.04`	`SGI`	`the towel is in the floor`
`05:54.14`	`Carnage`	`nno maybe ill do everyone a favor ank kick learner for a change`
`05:54.26`	`patlabor221`	`you and the kicking`
`05:54.33`	`scanline`	`always with the kicking!`
`05:54.45`	`Carnage`	`yes me and the kicking ( dont kick me again pat)`
`05:54.46`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: hehe`
`05:54.53`	`SGI`	`kick kick`
`05:55.29`	`Carnage`	`ok gentle i want a nice clean fight Carnage now shooing ur serlf and SGI no banning people.`
`05:55.39`	`patlabor221`	`not enought love in the room`
`05:55.44`	`Carnage`	`beging ding ding`
`05:55.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`Group hug now!`
`05:55.56`	`SGI`	`transitive and intransitive verb strike with the foot: to strike something or somebody with the foot`
`05:55.56`	`Carnage`	`heh`
`05:56.04`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`05:56.12`	`JBDiGriz`	`Enjoy yourself spiff, but most of us don't find that to our taste!`
`05:56.26`	`SGI`	`transitive and intransitive verb make a thrashing movement: to make a thrashing movement with the legs, for example, when fighting or swimming`
`05:56.32`	`Carnage`	`spiff has no idea what were talking about.`
`05:56.41`	`JBDiGriz`	`oooh, give him back his towel, yucky!`
`05:56.53`	`BZSpiff`	`And Carnage is a jerk. ;-)`
`05:56.54`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`05:57.03`	`Carnage`	`JB am i ever going to match proxs?`
`05:57.11`	`SGI`	`i need to wash my feet ...give me back the towel`
`05:57.31`	`JBDiGriz`	`ok sgi in one corner, carnage in the opposite, and spiff in the third, come out shooting, and no hitting below the belt`
`05:57.37`	`Carnage`	`spiff for the last 30 minutes i have not swearn once dont tempt me`
`05:57.42`	`SGI`	`transitive and intransitive verb raise the leg high: to raise the leg up high in a swift movement, for example, in a dance`
`05:57.49`	`BZSpiff`	`It was a joke. J-O-K-E. :)`
`05:58.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`I already tried joking`
`05:58.13`	`learnerAtWork`	`there's not enough humor in here as it is ;P`
`05:58.18`	`SGI`	`what it was a Joke`
`05:58.21`	`Carnage`	`u joke to M U C H`
`05:58.24`	`BZSpiff`	`Quite a stiff crowd, eh Learner? :-)`
`05:58.46`	`patlabor221`	`would you not burn or something first?`
`05:58.49`	`BZSpiff`	`Yep.... that stiff.`
`05:58.50`	`Carnage`	`laught and kicks learners dead body`
`05:59.02`	`SGI`	`learner.........i washed my bu.... before`
`05:59.14`	`captain_proton`	`'`
`05:59.20`	`SGI`	`probably is better to wash your hands`
`05:59.22`	`captain_proton`	`'cause i'm workin' undercover for the man...`
`05:59.27`	`SGI`	`with clorine`
`05:59.31`	`captain_proton`	`chaaaa la la la la`
`05:59.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`little late to tell me that!`
`05:59.51`	`SGI`	`acid`
`06:00.05`	`Carnage`	`lol`
`06:00.07`	`SGI`	`intransitive verb object: to show disapproval or object to something by not cooperating ( informal )`
`06:00.16`	`captain_proton`	`JBDiGriz: no, thats just the neighbors`
`06:00.17`	`Carnage`	`*see dead tanks`
`06:00.27`	`BZSpiff`	`Ewww.`
`06:00.50`	`Carnage`	`thats nice spiff`
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`06:01.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`wow, full crowd tonight`
`06:01.59`	`learnerAtWork`	`I need a beer`
`06:02.11`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`a beer at work? :)`
`06:02.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`JB: you missed this from earlier: http://flash.funnyjunk.com/pictures/catcarrier.jpg`
`06:02.33`	`learnerAtWork`	`I wish DM`
`06:02.46`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`:O`
`06:02.50`	`Carnage`	`lol jb i missed that 1`
`06:03.09`	`captain_proton`	`JBDiGriz: you hear a loud whooshing sound...`
`06:03.18`	`JBDiGriz`	`Ouch, I don't want to attach that to the cat!`
`06:03.43`	`JBDiGriz`	`I'm planning on heading to San Mateo next month.`
`06:04.06`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`cool weather there?`
`06:04.34`	`BZSpiff`	`North? Go south!`
`06:04.35`	`JBDiGriz`	`BSD conference.`
`06:04.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`now it's my turn to be jealous`
`06:04.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`Si Senor Spiff`
`06:05.06`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`too hot here in the south`
`06:05.09`	`Carnage`	`is challenging Proxs to a match befroe Jb leaves.`
`06:05.26`	`learnerAtWork`	`DM, haven't seen/played you on the field in ages (cept last night, of course)`
`06:05.49`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`I've been around and playing`
`06:05.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`DM: what's the callsign of the closest airport there?`
`06:06.07`	`learnerAtWork`	`Yea, I know -- I haven't`
`06:06.07`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`IAH`
`06:06.13`	`learnerAtWork`	`~weather kiah`
`06:06.38`	`learnerAtWork`	`humidity isn't too bad :)`
`06:06.49`	`JBDiGriz`	`Pretty warm for 1 in the morning.`
`06:06.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`yea`
`06:07.03`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`the news said 33%`
`06:07.18`	`learnerAtWork`	`lying bastards`
`06:07.26`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`may car said 110F earlier`
`06:07.36`	`learnerAtWork`	`lying POS`
`06:07.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)) j/k :)`
`06:07.52`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`I know the weather lady...she doesn't lie :)`
`06:07.56`	`JBDiGriz`	`I'll hang out here by the ocean. and let you guys suffer! :{)`
`06:08.11`	`Carnage`	`next person who lies i say we kick em`
`06:08.13`	`JBDiGriz`	`How well do you know the weather lady?`
`06:08.17`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`gret weather there`
`06:08.22`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`great`
`06:08.44`	`Carnage`	`did u guys see how they r getting viewers go watch the weater`
`06:08.47`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`I worked on her computer quite a few times`
`06:09.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`is that what it's called now?`
`06:09.11`	`JBDiGriz`	`I've seen the news in Eastern Europe, who cares if I can't understand what she's saying!`
`06:09.13`	`Carnage`	`for DM it is`
`06:09.19`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`:P`
`06:09.35`	`Carnage`	`good for ulearner i shoud do the same`
`06:10.32`	`learnerAtWork`	`this is what happens when I work late -- any excuse is a good enough excuse`
`06:10.49`	`JBDiGriz`	`Oops! Bumped a wumpus! Tsk tsk tsk - wumpus got JBDiGriz!`
`06:11.20`	`*** join/#bzflag iluxa (~iluxa@12-234-207-60.client.attbi.com)`
`06:11.41`	`Carnage`	`hi iluxa`
`06:11.46`	`iluxa`	`heya`
`06:11.52`	`Carnage`	`SENDS A CHALLENGE TO ALL PROXS MEMBERS`
`06:12.44`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`too late for me tonight`
`06:13.03`	`Carnage`	`i ask u 3 hours ago`
`06:13.09`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`lower your voice, you'll wake the dog`
`06:13.27`	`Carnage`	`carnage would rather go a week without kicking anything then to match u`
`06:14.03`	`Carnage`	`am i waking up the dog u should kick it its more effictive`
`06:14.29`	`BZSpiff`	`That's because Carnage is afraid of me. And talking in third person makes you sound like a three year old. :-)`
`06:15.10`	`DeadMeat_ProXS1`	`Mt St Helens is fixing to......`
`06:16.05`	`Carnage`	`im not going to play`
`06:16.19`	`Carnage`	`if bens is scared why bother`
`06:16.28`	`scanline`	`wow, some people take BZFlag way too seriously.. I thought it was just a myth`
`06:16.38`	`patlabor221`	`ohh they do`
`06:17.34`	`BZSpiff`	`I need to work on my chat sarcasm. People take ME to seriously.`
`06:17.55`	`BZSpiff`	`too^`
`06:18.08`	`Carnage`	`spiff who is WildCard?`
`06:18.27`	`BZSpiff`	`You'll never find out. :-)`
`06:18.29`	`JBDiGriz`	`I don't think anyone takes me seriously right now. Try reading some more science fiction.`
`06:20.04`	`JBDiGriz`	`Aha! You got the wumpus! Hee hee hee - the wumpus'll get you the next time!`
`06:20.23`	`BZSpiff`	`What's wumpus, precious?`
`06:21.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`anyone care for a little rude linguistic humor?`
`06:21.33`	`scanline`	`shirley, you can't be serious!`
`06:21.46`	`Carnage`	`no`
`06:21.53`	`JBDiGriz`	`He is, and don't call him Shirley.`
`06:22.25`	`Carnage`	`ghow many times must i kick learner before u tell me who wildcard id?`
`06:22.32`	`Carnage`	`is?`
`06:22.39`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'm supposed to know??`
`06:22.46`	`Carnage`	`nno spiff does`
`06:23.04`	`BZSpiff`	`Then what are you going to get out of kicking LEARNER? LoL`
`06:23.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`So I can rip his leg off`
`06:23.35`	`*** part/#bzflag DeadMeat_ProXS1 (~rkelsoe@adsl-64-219-77-30.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net)`
`06:23.47`	`BZSpiff`	`Or maybe he's afraid to kick me. ;-)`
`06:23.47`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`06:23.49`	`SGI`	`Nitroglycerin`
`06:23.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`cap: :))`
`06:24.06`	`learnerAtWork`	`have you made your own yet, cap?`
`06:24.31`	`captain_proton`	`no`
`06:24.36`	`captain_proton`	`i'm still a novice xpilot`
`06:25.11`	`Carnage`	`kicks spiff in the head trying despertually to knock some sence into him`
`06:26.05`	`JBDiGriz`	`he thinks they make him sound childish`
`06:26.16`	`BZSpiff`	`Carnage...... it should be "/me kicks spiff in the head trying despertually to knock some sence into him"`
`06:27.01`	`Carnage`	`oh ok`
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`06:27.32`	`BZSpiff`	`By the way..... what's despertually? confused`
`06:27.33`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, scanline`
`06:28.05`	`JBDiGriz`	`~dict despertually`
`06:28.07`	`captain_proton`	`most correct uses of /me are violent`
`06:28.19`	`JBDiGriz`	`~spell despertually`
`06:28.20`		`possible spellings for despertually: despotically desperately perpetually perceptually spiritually disputably distally especially dispersal deservedly`
`06:28.26`	`BZSpiff`	`~dict despirately`
`06:28.27`	`Carnage`	`i have no clue but i want to know who wildcard is`
`06:28.35`	`captain_proton`	`obviously means spiritually`
`06:28.35`	`BZSpiff`	`Whoops.`
`06:28.51`	`JBDiGriz`	`It sounds like he is doing it again and again, perpetually`
`06:29.05`	`learnerAtWork`	`and like a pirate`
`06:29.17`	`BZSpiff`	`I don't think you'd even know who he was anyway. Not a very high profile player.`
`06:29.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`or is that "not" like a pirate`
`06:29.26`	`JBDiGriz`	`Do we have any USD here?`
`06:29.35`	`BZSpiff`	`No.... but I have one on AIM.`
`06:29.45`	`scanline`	`despirately is an adverb describing the act of not being a pirate`
`06:30.08`	`JBDiGriz`	`I only see you there spiff`
`06:30.12`	`Carnage`	`ram is on quols im beating him up`
`06:32.02`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: uhoh`
`06:32.24`	`learnerAtWork`	`aww.. not a complete port -- it still uses X11`
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`06:34.09`	`Carnage`	`hi mega`
`06:34.20`	`JBDiGriz`	`This is amusing, I can talk to people in several windows now!`
`06:34.30`	`Megachirops`	`hello all`
`06:35.21`	`BZSpiff`	`Hello there Mega. :-)`
`06:35.32`	`SGI`	`sorry spiff...wrong btn`
`06:35.43`	`scanline`	`oh no, it's like a bzbb invasion of #bzflag!`
`06:35.46`	`BZSpiff`	`Hmm SGI?`
`06:36.12`	`Megachirops`	`lol`
`06:36.19`	`SGI`	`?`
`06:36.24`	`learnerAtWork`	`scanline: :)`
`06:36.41`	`BZSpiff`	`"sorry spiff...wrong btn"...... ?`
`06:37.06`	`learnerAtWork`	`well.. if patlabor would start streaming the x-files video -- we could all get to "more important" things..`
`06:37.18`	`SGI`	`I closed the sweet chat with you`
`06:37.31`	`learnerAtWork`	`cap: which server`
`06:37.35`	`learnerAtWork`	`can't take much more`
`06:37.37`	`BZSpiff`	`Ohhhhh. That's okay. :-) I hope I cheered you up a bit. :-D`
`06:38.44`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: uoregon.something`
`06:38.48`	`captain_proton`	`"Nuke Dark Hell"`
`06:39.04`	`JBDiGriz`	`learnerAtWork: How much longer are you spending at work?`
`06:39.15`	`*** part/#bzflag iluxa (~iluxa@12-234-207-60.client.attbi.com)`
`06:40.30`	`learnerAtWork`	`wow, there's some new effects..`
`06:41.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`JBDiGriz: probabally all night`
`06:43.40`	`JBDiGriz`	`I just read the xpilot page for Mac, ugh!`
`06:43.49`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`06:44.06`	`scanline`	`but.. that would be like an aqua version of xeyes!`
`06:44.17`	`SGI`	`someone can help me`
`06:44.20`	`JBDiGriz`	`scanline: Yes!`
`06:44.24`	`learnerAtWork`	`hey.. they have MOTD's .. I want motd's ....`
`06:44.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`tell me you're not jupiter, cap :)`
`06:44.53`	`SGI`	`How i can make an autorun..CD`
`06:45.07`	`scanline`	`$ touch autorun..CD`
`06:45.13`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: i am`
`06:45.24`	`captain_proton`	`are you Root? ;)`
`06:45.57`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe :)`
`06:46.00`	`learnerAtWork`	`yep`
`06:46.06`	`SGI`	`the cd ..need to start from D or E`
`06:46.13`	`learnerAtWork`	`yea -- newbie -- right`
`06:46.31`	`learnerAtWork`	`wow, this takes me back a few years`
`06:46.32`	`SGI`	`ICON=FauxS-362`
`06:46.54`	`SGI`	`[autorun]`
`06:46.54`	`SGI`	`OPEN=path\cdstart.EXE`
`06:46.54`	`SGI`	`ICON=path\logo.ICO`
`06:46.58`	`JBDiGriz`	`I'm off to get some sleep, g'nite all!`
`06:47.04`	`scanline`	`SGI: well, first you have to format the CD as a system disk.. then you just put an AUTOEXEC.BAT on it with the right icon`
`06:47.04`	`SGI`	`bye`
`06:47.16`	`scanline`	`SGI: make sure you have a PIF file or it might not get enough expanded memory`
`06:47.53`	`SGI`	`pif a did a inf`
`06:48.10`	`scanline`	`INF won't do, that's only if you want to install a device driver for the icon`
`06:48.12`	`scanline`	`has to be PIF`
`06:48.22`	`SGI`	`I have an exe to run`
`06:48.28`	`SGI`	`pif`
`06:48.33`	`scanline`	`that goes in AUTOEXEC.BAT, after the icon`
`06:48.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, gawd I don't remember any of the damn keys..`
`06:49.20`	`SGI`	`yeah baddy im a newbie`
`06:49.32`	`SGI`	`how`
`06:49.38`	`captain_proton`	`well there are so many to remember`
`06:49.56`	`scanline`	`well, you have to use 'dd' to transfer your icon into AUTOEXEC.BAT then append your EXE to it`
`06:50.52`	`SGI`	`"dd" ?????`
`06:51.04`	`scanline`	`it doesn't come with windows, you'll want to download Cygwin`
`06:52.28`	`scanline`	`now you have to be careful you get the correct 37-byte header in your AUTOEXEC.BAT, followed by 862 bytes of icon data, then your EXE file`
`06:52.41`	`scanline`	`you're good with hexadecimal, right?`
`06:53.29`	`SGI`	`ill try`
`06:53.33`	`scanline`	`then the most important part is zipping that file and putting it in AUTORUN..CD`
`06:53.37`	`scanline`	`presto! an AUTORUN..CD file!`
`06:55.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, cap`
`06:55.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`that was a nice set of bullets you had there :)`
`06:55.38`	`captain_proton`	`and you had to go and ruin it`
`06:56.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, that was a lot of seekers !`
`06:56.17`	`captain_proton`	`ph34r my modified cluster torpedos!`
`06:56.37`	`captain_proton`	`i just learned about the X modifier this evening`
`06:56.39`	`Megachirops`	`well, i'm off.. TTY all later`
`06:56.58`	`BZSpiff`	`C-ya Mega. :-)`
`07:00.26`	`Carnage`	`its so quite`
`07:01.28`	`scanline`	`quite!`
`07:01.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`indeed`
`07:02.25`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'll have to "remedy" that :)`
`07:02.29`	`captain_proton`	`hehe`
`07:03.32`	`scanline`	`using... multiple inheritance!`
`07:04.12`	`captain_proton`	`yay for full nukular mines`
`07:05.30`	`scanline`	`hmm... another reason to require python 2.2.. before that, multiple inheritance sucked`
`07:10.18`	`Carnage`	`hmm`
`07:13.44`	`learnerAtWork`	`almost :)`
`07:13.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`what's the chat key?`
`07:14.07`	`scanline`	`'m' I think`
`07:21.32`	`captain_proton`	`yay =)`
`07:21.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, what a blast`
`07:22.31`	`Carnage`	`r u always at work?`
`07:23.08`	`learnerAtWork`	`probably as much as you are on the field :)`
`07:23.35`	`BZSpiff`	`Wow... that's some hard-core workohaulicism there learner. ;-)`
`07:23.45`	`BZSpiff`	`Gee.... that's a cool word I made up. :-D`
`07:23.46`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`07:24.01`	`learnerAtWork`	`I said I need a beer..`
`07:24.04`	`scanline`	`nice spelling you invented too`
`07:24.31`	`BZSpiff`	`Thanks, scanline.`
`07:24.58`	`scanline`	`then.. the Spiffy Rhyming Dictionary!`
`07:25.54`	`BZSpiff`	`Ahh... don't need that. I have a real rhyme dictionary from AnalogX. :-D`
`07:26.02`	`BZSpiff`	`It's a handy thing to have too, lemme tell ya.`
`07:26.34`	`scanline`	`in case you need to rhyme words like Orange and Cadaver?`
`07:26.59`	`captain_proton`	`splorange, of course`
`07:29.22`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: just picked?`
`07:29.34`	`BZSpiff`	`I think we've taught Carnage the /me commands well..... he's kicking me in PM now. Hmm.`
`07:31.23`	`captain_proton`	`hmm lurgyman`
`07:31.30`	`captain_proton`	`since walt is becoming a biology person thingy`
`07:31.44`	`captain_proton`	`we should make him crossbreed cucumber with vinegar and make a pickle tree`
`07:32.47`	`captain_proton`	`Carnage: you have a lot of anger don't you?`
`07:32.54`	`Carnage`	`no i dont`
`07:32.55`	`scanline`	`Carnage: hug a pine tree, you'll start to feel better`
`07:33.01`	`learnerAtWork`	`damn that rap music`
`07:33.15`	`scanline`	`wow, that domain doesn't exist`
`07:33.41`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: =)`
`07:33.46`	`scanline`	`aww, you know they don't grow well like that`
`07:33.49`	`BZSpiff`	`I'm surprised that Sesamae Stree hasn't bought it.`
`07:34.14`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: he obviously isn't a gardener. sunlight is important for plants!`
`07:34.16`	`Carnage`	`nsesamea street i seen a joke about that`
`07:34.23`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: indeed`
`07:34.30`	`Carnage`	`if u want i could find it`
`07:34.31`	`BZSpiff`	`I like that show. :-)`
`07:35.59`	`BZSpiff`	`But the old Pink Panther cartoons were better.`
`07:36.06`	`BZSpiff`	`And Snoopy! ;-)`
`07:36.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`oh.. don't try to save face now...`
`07:36.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`07:37.00`	`learnerAtWork`	`you have no idea`
`07:37.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`really`
`07:37.04`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
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`07:37.14`	`BZSpiff`	`Shoot Me Up Elmo was better. ;-)`
`07:37.38`	`learnerAtWork`	`oh.. that reminds me.. there was a great video on my hotel tv in san diego..`
`07:37.43`	`learnerAtWork`	`"hoar of the rings"`
`07:37.54`	`captain_proton`	`hoar?`
`07:37.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`honest`
`07:38.06`	`learnerAtWork`	`it was hilarious`
`07:38.07`	`captain_proton`	`~dict hoar`
`07:38.31`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh, er.. yea`
`07:38.40`	`captain_proton`	`so it was a movie about anthropomorphized antique jewelery?`
`07:38.48`	`learnerAtWork`	`yep :)`
`07:38.52`	`BZSpiff`	`Was that on... err.... one of those pay-per-view channels that you have to be 21 to get?`
`07:38.53`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`07:39.02`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:39.07`	`learnerAtWork`	`21?? what state are you in?`
`07:39.08`	`scanline`	`slurpy!`
`07:39.12`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:39.18`	`scanline`	`slurpy!`
`07:39.20`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:39.24`	`scanline`	`squishy!`
`07:39.25`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:39.31`	`scanline`	`smushy!`
`07:39.33`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:39.38`	`learnerAtWork`	`hey.. it's the audio track to the video`
`07:39.39`	`scanline`	`sqooshiiie!!!`
`07:39.41`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:39.45`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: haha`
`07:39.47`	`scanline`	`boingski!`
`07:39.50`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:39.52`	`BZSpiff`	`Indiana. I unno tho.... because I don't care. :-)`
`07:39.57`	`scanline`	`yhsuls!`
`07:39.59`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:40.06`	`scanline`	`squeaky!`
`07:40.08`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:40.10`	`BZSpiff`	`I just assumed 21 was a legal age? Dunno. :)`
`07:40.14`	`scanline`	`boingy!`
`07:40.25`	`learnerAtWork`	`calm down scanline :)`
`07:40.29`	`Carnage`	`im glad to be canadian 19 over here`
`07:40.31`	`scanline`	`=)`
`07:40.32`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:40.46`	`scanline`	`splishy!`
`07:40.48`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:40.53`	`scanline`	`wonky!`
`07:40.54`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:41.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`wow.. corrupting minds two nights in a row`
`07:41.14`	`scanline`	`CORRUPTION!`
`07:41.33`	`captain_proton`	`18 is legal for everything except drinking`
`07:41.53`	`BZSpiff`	`Hmm. Okies proton. :-)`
`07:42.24`	`BZSpiff`	`Can you get a hotel room at 18?`
`07:42.28`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:42.33`	`BZSpiff`	`I wanna take a road trip. :-D`
`07:42.36`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:42.46`	`scanline`	`BZSpiff: you're not 18 yet, eh?`
`07:42.49`	`Carnage`	`slushy`
`07:42.53`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: you mean you were looking at girls in swimsuits instead of looking at siggraph exhibits?!`
`07:42.58`	`scanline`	`Carnage: you really like that slushy, eh?`
`07:43.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`of course.. duh?!?`
`07:44.38`	`learnerAtWork`	`yea carnage`
`07:44.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`kick em`
`07:44.50`	`Carnage`	`in the face/`
`07:45.10`	`SGI`	`can you show me my IP address`
`07:45.22`	`BZSpiff`	`Hmm... looks like Shoot Me Up Elmo has been discontinued.`
`07:45.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`68.42.178.216`
`07:45.59`	`SGI`	`the command`
`07:46.05`	`SGI`	`here`
`07:46.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`~nslookup pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net`
`07:46.45`	`SGI`	`ibot`
`07:47.01`	`Carnage`	`slushly`
`07:47.33`	`BZSpiff`	`http://www.jokefrog.com/pic.shtml?0058.jpg`
`07:47.35`	`learnerAtWork`	`~fishslap carnage for being slushly`
`07:47.37`		`ACTION slaps carnage up side the head with a wet fish for being slushly`
`07:47.37`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: there are 359 -other- days to do that`
`07:47.38`	`BZSpiff`	`Be ware of the popups though.`
`07:47.49`	`Carnage`	`slushly`
`07:48.08`	`scanline`	`then.. I lock the door!`
`07:48.15`	`captain_proton`	`don't forget mikeeusa`
`07:48.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`actually it was the weekend after siggraph`
`07:48.19`	`scanline`	`ah, definitely`
`07:48.23`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: oh, ok`
`07:48.41`	`scanline`	`actually, file doesn't belong in there.. he's not annoying any more`
`07:48.49`	`captain_proton`	`less`
`07:48.49`	`Carnage`	`slushly`
`07:48.50`	`captain_proton`	`err`
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`07:48.55`	`captain_proton`	`less often annoying, anyway`
`07:48.59`	`scanline`	`true`
`07:49.21`	`captain_proton`	`sgi is a cooler company than you'll ever be`
`07:49.44`	`scanline`	`poor u, keeps getting killed`
`07:49.58`	`scanline`	`t and v are getting lonely`
`07:50.04`	`Carnage`	`ur dead shut up`
`07:50.20`	`scanline`	`you can't use 'u' or 'ur' any more, you killed it`
`07:50.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`cap: you should go next year..`
`07:50.33`	`learnerAtWork`	`get work to 'justify' it :)`
`07:50.47`	`scanline`	`see, there you go again with this alphabetic violence`
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`07:52.29`	`patlabor221`	`wow must be compenstating for something`
`07:52.39`	`Carnage`	`maybe`
`07:52.44`	`scanline`	`Carnage: i'm pretty sure it's already thoroughly deceased.. doesn't take much to kill a letter`
`07:53.26`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: at this point my dream is that i'll be working with the viz center people`
`07:53.30`	`BZSpiff`	`Overusing a letter is bad enough.... but killing it? Hmmph.`
`07:53.33`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: and they certainly go... ;)`
`07:53.52`	`captain_proton`	`my current job has jack squat to do with graphics`
`07:53.59`	`scanline`	`oh no, I'm silent!`
`07:54.53`	`BZSpiff`	`I can still hear you scanline. :-)`
`07:55.04`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+q Carnage!@] by captain_proton`
`07:55.09`	`scanline`	`hooray`
`07:55.20`	`scanline`	`it's like Diablo-D3... but in #bzflag`
`07:56.08`	`scanline`	`silly channel, requiring actual ops...`
`07:56.19`	`captain_proton`	`yup`
`07:56.28`	`*** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-29.ADSL.mnsi.net)`
`07:56.30`	`BZSpiff`	`This is the last time I wait up until 3:00 AM for a girl. Arg.`
`07:56.50`	`scanline`	`maybe he thinks reconnecting kills the +q?`
`07:57.03`	`captain_proton`	`could be`
`07:57.08`	`patlabor221`	`he's never been bright`
`07:57.16`	`*** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-29.ADSL.mnsi.net)`
`07:57.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`lol`
`07:57.20`	`scanline`	`at least Diablo-D3 made a little bit of sense`
`07:57.27`	`scanline`	`oh, hi Carnage`
`07:57.30`	`scanline`	`we were just talking about you`
`07:57.36`	`learnerAtWork`	`hi carnage :)`
`07:57.38`	`patlabor221`	`no spiff, it won't be the last time`
`07:58.00`	`scanline`	`Carnage: if you're wondering, reconnecting does in fact not clear a +q`
`07:58.37`	`BZSpiff`	`Oh really, patlabor? Okay..... then... this is the last time I wait up until 3:00 AM for a girl who's interested in another girl. Hmmph. :\`
`07:58.54`	`patlabor221`	`no, no it won't be :)`
`07:59.09`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: does VTE have a happy python binding yet?`
`07:59.18`	`*** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-29.ADSL.mnsi.net)`
`07:59.27`	`BZSpiff`	`Well... Carnage can still PM.`
`07:59.28`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: i don't know if either vte/zvt have python bindings`
`07:59.28`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`07:59.30`	`scanline`	`wow, you'd think he'd at least try changing his IP`
`07:59.32`	`patlabor221`	`he's trying to get a new IP`
`07:59.39`	`*** join/#bzflag Carnage_ (strayer@dyn216-8-133-29.ADSL.mnsi.net)`
`07:59.48`	`captain_proton`	`ooh`
`08:00.03`	`patlabor221`	`well he's startin to think`
`08:00.06`	`captain_proton`	`if he keeps that nickname, he'll be able to talk!`
`08:00.26`	`scanline`	`he'll probably start going on about how he outsmarted our pathetic censorship`
`08:00.32`	`scanline`	`but in less precise words probably`
`08:00.35`	`*** mode/#bzflag [-q Carnage!@] by captain_proton`
`08:00.41`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+q Carnage!@*] by captain_proton`
`08:00.47`	`*** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-29.ADSL.mnsi.net)`
`08:01.10`	`captain_proton`	`hmm`
`08:01.17`	`captain_proton`	`yaknow, sometimes i ponder +q *`
`08:01.31`	`scanline`	`wow, this multiple inheritance thing sure makes Viewport cleaner`
`08:01.41`	`BZSpiff`	`IP's still the same, Carnage. ;-)`
`08:01.43`	`captain_proton`	`i hate dirty viewports`
`08:01.48`	`scanline`	`indeed`
`08:02.00`	`patlabor221`	`it';s not IP based`
`08:02.15`	`scanline`	`so.. if Carnage joined with the nick "Nancy" for example, he would be able to talk`
`08:02.18`	`scanline`	`but we'd all laugh`
`08:02.33`	`BZSpiff`	`Yes. But my point was simply that his IP hadn't changed. ;-)`
`08:02.37`	`captain_proton`	`...audrey farber?`
`08:02.43`	`scanline`	`Susan Underhill?`
`08:02.51`	`patlabor221`	`he'll have to re dhcp`
`08:02.52`	`captain_proton`	`you mean....Nancy?`
`08:02.59`	`scanline`	`Betty-joe bioloski?`
`08:03.34`	`captain_proton`	`yay for nick danger`
`08:03.42`	`scanline`	`I should listen to that now`
`08:04.10`	`captain_proton`	`and now, the adventures of nick danger! america's only detective...`
`08:04.29`	`captain_proton`	`the two eggs i had boiling on my hot-plate stared at me like...two eggs`
`08:04.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`ahem`
`08:04.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`slushly`
`08:05.01`	`*** part/#bzflag yoyox (nikt@nikt.org)`
`08:05.04`	`scanline`	`out of the fog.. into the smog`
`08:05.06`	`scanline`	`relentlessly`
`08:05.07`	`scanline`	`ruthlessly`
`08:05.09`	`scanline`	`doggedly`
`08:05.18`	`scanline`	`toward his weekly meeting with... the unknown!`
`08:06.13`	`patlabor221`	`posibly`
`08:06.42`	`patlabor221`	`or BFOJ`
`08:07.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`mmmm.. big food of juice`
`08:07.29`	`captain_proton`	`eek`
`08:07.29`	`patlabor221`	`or juice`
`08:07.34`	`captain_proton`	`the one i'm uploading is full of puns :P`
`08:07.43`	`scanline`	`melanie haber?`
`08:07.49`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`08:09.39`	`learnerAtWork`	`carnage says goodbye`
`08:09.45`	`BZSpiff`	`Anyone up for pizza? My treat. :-D`
`08:10.15`	`learnerAtWork`	`only if you have it hand delivered by a pretty woman, spiff`
`08:10.21`	`*** part/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-29.ADSL.mnsi.net)`
`08:10.42`	`BZSpiff`	`How about two pretty women? ;-)`
`08:10.47`	`scanline`	`learnerAtWork: I'm guessing he didn't quite just say 'goodbye!' with a smile?`
`08:11.06`	`BZSpiff`	`Good things always come in pairs.`
`08:11.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`actually, it was rather devout of emotion`
`08:11.35`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'm happy with just one, but if you can muster up more -- sure`
`08:11.59`	`captain_proton`	`3.5 minutes left until its uploaded`
`08:13.07`	`scanline`	`you may wait here in the sitting room, or you can sit here in the waiting room`
`08:13.51`	`*** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net)`
`08:13.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`what about the champagne room?`
`08:14.07`	`scanline`	`nothing happens in there!`
`08:14.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`~ispell champagne`
`08:14.11`		`'champagne' may be spelled correctly`
`08:14.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`hrm`
`08:14.21`	`BZSpiff`	`The rec.-room.... my favorite. :-)`
`08:15.24`	`BZSpiff`	`I want to find an old pinball machine for my rec. room. One of the really old ones that took a nickle or a dime to operate. :-)`
`08:15.36`	`captain_proton`	`http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/nick_danger-the_missing_shoe.mp3`
`08:16.25`	`learnerAtWork`	`My neighbor's is filled with old pinball machines and cabinets -- his family had a business selling them`
`08:16.36`	`BZSpiff`	`Awesome. :-D`
`08:16.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`I got my pool table from him -- very cool`
`08:17.10`	`BZSpiff`	`Well...... Spiffy's off to bed. Lisa never did show up. Arrgh.`
`08:17.35`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: you must listen to nick danger!`
`08:17.46`	`BZSpiff`	`Very cool, learner.`
`08:17.53`	`BZSpiff`	`It's been fun.`
`08:17.57`	`BZSpiff`	`I'll c-ya all later. :-)`
`08:19.01`	`learnerAtWork`	`cap: where at?`
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`08:19.29`	`bomber_`	`moin`
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`08:22.22`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: the link i posted above`
`08:22.58`	`captain_proton`	`and on that note, i think i shall retire for the evening`
`08:23.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe`
`08:23.20`	`scanline`	`g'night captain_proton`
`08:23.38`	`learnerAtWork`	`"the two eggs stared at me like.. two eggs.."`
`08:27.22`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's a great track :))`
`08:27.25`	`scanline`	`I have proof I've been to ancient Greece, look at this grape!`
`08:28.13`	`learnerAtWork`	`"you alright andy? .. need to stop smoking andy" :)`
`08:32.13`	`Chestal`	`morning`
`08:32.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`mornin' Chestal!`
`08:32.41`	`Chestal`	`yet another happy day in purgatory awaits me`
`08:36.15`	`bomber_`	`:o)`
`08:36.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`hey ches.. league question for you..`
`08:37.07`	`learnerAtWork`	`is there an "official" position on suicides during league matches?`
`08:40.39`	`Chestal`	`learner: I have seen it being used as a tactics in 2-2 matches. I'd say it's ok`
`08:42.18`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's what I figured`
`08:43.19`	`learnerAtWork`	`there was a "discussion" a few hours ago about that here`
`08:43.37`	`Chestal`	`oh, after a Match?`
`08:44.01`	`Chestal`	`first team that used this in a match is probably TDS`
`08:44.19`	`learnerAtWork`	`it ended almost amicably after about an hour of "discussion" :)`
`08:44.19`	`Chestal`	`mostly after having put their flag in the corner`
`08:44.49`	`bomber_`	`but this is ugly :o)`
`08:44.59`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'm familiar with the tactic -- use if myself even; just didn't know if there was anything official`
`08:45.04`	`Chestal`	`I guess it could be debated whether it 'honorable' to do so, but why should it be forbidden?`
`08:45.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`your word is as close to official as it gets for me`
`08:45.35`	`Chestal`	`sometimes it is even necessary to kill a teammate for the greater good :-)`
`08:45.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`I agree`
`08:45.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`or even self :)`
`08:46.10`	`Chestal`	`in most situations, suicide won't really give you an advantage, though. I have never used it`
`08:46.12`	`bomber_`	`but when you are really master then you dont need it :o)`
`08:46.39`	`learnerAtWork`	`actually, I caught on to using in from tlz..`
`09:27.36`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (5 files in 3 dirs): Huge hackfest at Viewport, breaking several things`
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`10:05.31`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): floor() all the glTranslatef() coordinates in GLText so we keep all glyphs on the pixel grid and don't mess up any of the hinting`
`10:12.21`	`Chestal`	`~logs`
`10:12.22`		`http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz`
`10:13.35`	`dheckaman_`	`moin Chestal`
`10:34.30`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (2 files in 2 dirs): Ignore errors where it's safe to`
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`11:37.55`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Anothe cubic boatload of Viewport and DynamicTexture-related changes. This time it's in the name of making viewports enable and disableable at any time, with smarter rendering of texture dependencies. This gives about a 70 FHz speedup on skytest`
`11:49.17`	`bomber_`	`uff here is too hot`
`11:51.24`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/doc (2 files): Update TODO and BUGS`
`11:57.49`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (Game.py): Whitespace tweak`
`11:58.27`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (GameView.py): Whitespace tweak`
`12:00.17`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (GameView.py): Unborkify the GameView a little`
`12:37.35`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Since every single app seems to change the viewport size to 800x600, remove all that cruft and make it the default`
`12:39.42`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (fonttest.py): Don't immediately let the FrameRate instrument in fonttest be garbage collected`
`12:46.49`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Frame durations of 0 in DynamicTexture are leagal now, use that. Swap frameDuration and noise`
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`13:21.30`	`Quol_AtWork`	`hello learner - how R ya`
`13:21.31`	`Quol_AtWork`	`?`
`13:21.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`doing good`
`13:21.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`a bit tired`
`13:22.08`	`learnerAtWork`	`but I'll live`
`13:22.08`	`Quol_AtWork`	`I know that feeling :) - working lots?`
`13:22.28`	`learnerAtWork`	`yes :)`
`13:22.30`	`learnerAtWork`	`:(`
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`13:22.48`	`Quol_AtWork`	`yup - then I definetely can understand that one...`
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`13:23.35`	`david_v`	`hi guys`
`13:23.40`	`learnerAtWork`	`mornin'`
`13:23.41`	`Quol_AtWork`	`hello david_v`
`13:23.45`	`[dmp]`	`hi.. swedish :)`
`13:23.53`	`david_v`	`would anyone know how i can get ChanServ to op me automatically on a channel?`
`13:23.57`	`[dmp]`	`ah, that felt good. :)`
`13:24.02`	`david_v`	`Swedish? me? you sure? :)`
`13:24.25`	`[dmp]`	`You smell like homemade alcohold.. I would think so :-)`
`13:24.41`	`david_v`	`yep, i am Swedish, alcoholic and all... and proud of it! ha!`
`13:24.44`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`13:24.51`	`david_v`	`hey what did i say now :)`
`13:25.03`	`david_v`	`not the truth (i hope)`
`13:25.19`	`david_v`	`well anyway, ChanServ seems to be rather good at removing ops... but adding?`
`13:25.23`	`david_v`	`i found no option for that`
`13:26.14`	`[dmp]`	`Actually i was in suadi arabic to visit a client.. We worked with some swedish consultants. (alcohol is forbitten down there) .. So they did make their own beer from the non-alcoholic beer. Taste .. erhm. I was acceptable :-)`
`13:26.31`	`david_v`	`hehe`
`13:27.22`	`[dmp]`	`An bottle of real vodka costs 7000 SEK :)`
`13:27.34`	`david_v`	`sounds like my budget... not :)`
`13:27.38`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`13:28.40`	`[dmp]`	`The prince liked alcohol, so there was one bar where you could buy it .. in the compound where the swedish lived.. Makes you wonder :)`
`13:28.50`	`david_v`	`lol`
`13:29.41`	`[dmp]`	`Hint: dont bring clear water into the country. The dont belive its water :-). An angry military man with automated weapon is not someone you like to argue with niehter :)`
`13:30.41`	`david_v`	`lol`
`13:30.47`	`david_v`	`i guess not :)`
`13:31.34`	`[dmp]`	`"Death Penalty for drugs" was on eht sheet of paper you was handed when you landed. From that point, i didn EXACTLY what they told me to.`
`13:31.46`	`david_v`	`didn't? :)`
`13:31.48`	`david_v`	`hehe`
`13:32.01`	`[dmp]`	`it was abit unpleaseant to have then open the suitcases in front of everybody..`
`13:32.02`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`13:32.02`	`david_v`	`rather tough down there huh`
`13:32.34`	`[dmp]`	`well, except that, i'd like to live down .. too see how their society works`
`13:32.50`	`[dmp]`	`even got my girlfriend to accept wearing those black blankets :-)`
`13:32.55`	`[dmp]`	`but it never happended.`
`13:33.19`	`david_v`	`hm`
`13:35.05`	`[dmp]`	`it was a strange place. And hot :)`
`13:36.00`	`[dmp]`	`and as i got red hair, i didnt exactly fade into the crowd. :)`
`13:37.02`	`david_v`	`aha :)`
`13:37.11`	`[dmp]`	`so i didnt even try to steal :)`
`13:37.28`	`david_v`	`wow, how did you feel down there, must have been terrible :)`
`13:37.38`	`david_v`	`a crime a day is a must you know`
`13:37.43`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`13:38.36`	`[dmp]`	`we visited the goldmarked.. You could steal very easily. And every one in a while the called for prayers, so everybody left. just closing a thin tin-something in front of the store.. you could break it with your bare hands..`
`13:38.49`	`[dmp]`	`But it was cheap.`
`13:39.08`	`[dmp]`	`and still, i ask myself. Why the "#=�"#)� dosnt my girlfriend like gold? :-)`
`13:39.28`	`david_v`	`hehehe`
`13:39.44`	`david_v`	`never struck you to ask her ? ;)`
`13:41.18`	`[dmp]`	`"it makes me look white"`
`13:41.34`	`[dmp]`	`~spell peal`
`13:41.34`		`'peal' may be spelled correctly`
`13:42.03`	`[dmp]`	`"bleg"(dk)`
`13:42.52`	`david_v`	`hehe`
`13:43.00`	`david_v`	`"blek" yes :)`
`13:43.09`	`david_v`	`or pale`
`13:43.13`	`david_v`	`in English`
`13:43.20`	`[dmp]`	`ah :)`
`13:43.22`	`david_v`	`~dict peal`
`13:43.29`	`david_v`	`hehe`
`13:43.55`	`[dmp]`	`she does that when she grabs the phone and begins to sms :)`
`13:50.52`	`KTL`	`mmm the bzedit for linux, where can i get it?`
`13:51.58`	`david_v`	`doh someone sent me a URL before but it's a bit tricky for me to look it up now`
`13:52.24`	`david_v`	`i could try though... let's see`
`13:52.52`	`[dmp]`	`~bzedit`
`13:52.53`		`i heard bzedit is http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/bzedit-2.1.tar.gz on linux http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit for windows`
`13:53.33`	`david_v`	`oh`
`13:53.39`	`david_v`	`doh`
`13:54.18`	`KTL`	`ok, i'll let the bot live for some time, tnx:-)`
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`13:58.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`moinin' tim`
`14:03.11`	`dheckaman_`	`moin TimRiker`
`14:19.30`	`david_v`	`can someone get to distrowatch right now?`
`14:21.26`	`david_v`	`seems to be down :\|`
`14:23.04`	`[dmp]`	`Seems you're right.`
`14:24.50`	`david_v`	`hmm`
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`14:38.34`	`learnerAtWork`	`speak of the devil (again) :)`
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`15:51.50`	`Chikorita`	`hellooo all`
`15:52.23`	`[dmp]`	`hi Chikorita`
`15:52.26`	`Chikorita`	`:)`
`15:52.30`	`Chikorita`	`or anybody..`
`15:52.34`	`Chikorita`	`o hi dmpee`
`15:52.49`	`david_v`	`hey Chik`
`15:52.58`	`Chikorita`	`hey davy :)`
`15:53.14`	`Chikorita`	`sup sup sup`
`15:53.17`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`15:53.39`	`Chikorita`	`umm okkaayy`
`15:54.07`	`Chikorita`	`softice...iz dat like a slushy?`
`15:55.01`	`Chikorita`	`mus b da humidity again..`
`15:55.32`	`[dmp]`	`dont know what slushy is. http://www.media-therapy.com/images/hokkaido/softice.jpg`
`15:55.50`	`Chikorita`	`i feel like a piece of gum ..soft an chew an sweet , buh now kinda hard an tasteless :(`
`15:55.54`	`patlabor221`	`frogurt!!!`
`15:56.01`	`Chikorita`	`lol pat`
`15:56.29`	`Chikorita`	`o wow dat look yum dmp!`
`15:56.32`	`Chikorita`	`mmmmmmmmmm`
`15:56.41`	`[dmp]`	`just had one 30 mins ago :)`
`15:56.54`	`Chikorita`	i want 1` ...where did u go 2 get it?
`15:56.59`	`Chikorita`	`dairy queen?`
`15:57.04`	`[dmp]`	`the freezer :)`
`15:57.08`	`Chikorita`	`o haha`
`15:57.20`	`Chikorita`	`aww`
`15:57.23`	`Chikorita`	`umm`
`15:57.25`	`Chikorita`	`hmm`
`15:57.42`	`patlabor221`	`have your tried buying them diner?`
`15:57.44`	`Chikorita`	`buy dem a softice an maybee u wil get sum LoL`
`15:58.06`	`Chikorita`	`dat prolly werk wif mee LoL j/k ;)`
`15:58.26`	`patlabor221`	`well it depends, do you talk that that in real life? :)`
`15:59.13`	`Chikorita`	`lol i talkin wif dmp , not u pat`
`15:59.22`	`Chikorita`	`u prolly have a g/f already yes? ;)`
`15:59.31`	`patlabor221`	`I know, but that would change my advice to him`
`15:59.34`	`Chikorita`	`wait ..i tho dmp was married?`
`15:59.36`	`patlabor221`	`no I don't sadly.`
`16:00.05`	`patlabor221`	`yeah dosn't he have a daughter?`
`16:00.19`	`Chikorita`	`yea a daughter`
`16:00.22`	`[dmp]`	`In that case, dont tell my gf.`
`16:00.25`	`[dmp]`	`and me.`
`16:00.30`	`Chikorita`	`LoL`
`16:01.05`	`Chikorita`	`anywayzzz`
`16:01.10`	`Chikorita`	`o`
`16:01.49`	`Chikorita`	`~d`
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`16:09.04`	`Tupone`	`captain_proton: I found a bug on 1.7g2 that segfault bzflag. It's about the ServerLink::read that overflow the msg buffer.`
`16:09.26`	`Tupone`	`I think is even in 1.9`
`16:09.28`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, nope -- I'm here`
`16:09.55`	`captain_proton`	`Tupone: ok...post a bug report`
`16:10.23`	`Tupone`	`I an implement it, it's as simple as checking length`
`16:10.31`	`Tupone`	`s/an/can`
`16:10.49`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: does it simply trust the length which is encoded in the packet header?`
`16:11.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`:) nah -- my cicadean (sp?) cycle usually only hits me around 5am-8am`
`16:11.21`	`Tupone`	`We need to check the lenght in the buffer received with MaxPacketLen`
`16:11.34`	`captain_proton`	`~dict cicadean`
`16:11.43`	`captain_proton`	`~spell cicadean`
`16:11.45`		`possible spellings for cicadean: circadian cicada cicadas cicada's Nicaean`
`16:11.45`	`learnerAtWork`	`~ispell cicadean`
`16:11.46`		`possible spellings for cicadean: circadian cicada cicadas cicada's Nicaean`
`16:11.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`~dict circadian`
`16:12.05`	`learnerAtWork`	`there we go`
`16:12.18`	`patlabor221`	`yeah it's pronounce sar cad ian right?`
`16:12.29`	`Nidhoggr`	`sir cade ee an`
`16:12.35`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`16:12.40`	`JBDiGriz`	`Those rhythms get messed up when you go without sleep for 24 hrs.`
`16:12.41`	`patlabor221`	`english is so wierd`
`16:12.51`	`JBDiGriz`	`That's weird ;-)`
`16:12.57`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`16:13.02`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: got no CVS write access?`
`16:13.02`	`Nidhoggr`	`did you know that lack of sleep puts you at a much higher risk for heart attack?`
`16:13.15`	`Tupone`	`I got! I'll do it`
`16:13.16`	`JBDiGriz`	`i before e except after c, right???`
`16:13.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`mine are traditionally pretty reliable as to when they'll hit me`
`16:13.40`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's what make it so hard to go to sleep before 3am..`
`16:13.48`	`Nidhoggr`	`if you sleep only 4 hours a night, your chances of heart attack can increase as much as 56 percent. (if you are in danger of heart attack already)`
`16:14.18`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: in 1.9 of course`
`16:14.45`	`Nidhoggr`	`oooh! caffeine and sleep deprivation! good combo. :)`
`16:15.02`	`Tupone`	`Yeah. I notices scanlines put some check and them removed! Why? I don't know!`
`16:15.26`	`Nidhoggr`	`went to eye doc this morning, and things are beginning to look almost normal. 20/30 in my reading eye and 20/25 in my distance eye, after almost being blind.`
`16:15.40`	`Nidhoggr`	`and they think I'll acheive 20/15 in my distance eye.`
`16:15.47`	`Chestal`	`hmm, len should always be n-4, no?`
`16:16.15`	`Chestal`	`until we merge messages into a single packet of course`
`16:16.29`	`Tupone`	`The only check I want to put in, is not overloading the input buffer. Returning -1 if overflow`
`16:16.52`	`Tupone`	`The input buffer length is always MaxPacketLen`
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`16:17.12`	`Tupone`	`Just against seg-fault`
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`16:17.26`	`BZSpiff`	`Whoops.`
`16:17.30`	`BZSpiff`	`Good morning all. :-)`
`16:17.40`	`Nidhoggr`	`hiya spiff.`
`16:17.42`	`learnerAtWork`	`hi spiff`
`16:17.45`	`learnerAtWork`	`bye spiff`
`16:17.52`	`BZSpiff`	`Hehe. Enjoy, learner. :-D`
`16:17.53`	`Nidhoggr`	`later, learner`
`16:18.01`	`JBDiGriz`	`the walking dead.`
`16:18.08`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: is that for UDP or TCP or both?`
`16:18.44`	`Tupone`	`Its for both. I see the problem with TCP, but I think a check is better we done for both`
`16:20.39`	`Tupone`	`Sorry for my Inglish`
`16:21.00`	`Chestal`	`oh, the player TCP recv code is not preemptive`
`16:21.05`	`Chestal`	`didn't know that`
`16:21.21`	`Chestal`	`might be responsible for some people's drop in fps when they got a bad connection`
`16:21.36`	`Chestal`	`this should be rewritten IMHO`
`16:21.42`	`Chestal`	`the server does it the right way I think`
`16:21.59`	`Chestal`	`although I have no idea if it really happens`
`16:30.51`	`Quol_AtWork`	`Chestal - I have a question for you...have you ever noticed that even though the CTF settings say "allow 4 green and 4 red and some observers" that sometimes all the "slots" get filled up even though there are only 2 red, 2 green playing - only observers can connect...?`
`16:32.10`	`Chestal`	`Quol: yes, there is some 'leakage' of player slots. Some of it has been fixed, but there might still be a bug or two left`
`16:32.14`	`TimRiker`	`Quol_AtWork: yeah. the reconnect can cause that from time to time. It's annoying. It's better in g2 than it was in g0 though.`
`16:32.24`	`Chestal`	`Quol: hmm, however that should also disallow observers`
`16:32.42`	`Quol_AtWork`	`when it happens to me - observers can connect`
`16:32.53`	`Chestal`	`uhm, a 'dead' slot wouldn't accept anyone`
`16:32.55`	`Quol_AtWork`	`seems to happen quite often in G2 for me - almost once a week`
`16:33.05`	`Quol_AtWork`	`a restart of the bzfs instance fixes everything though`
`16:33.09`	`TimRiker`	`if a team connect is dieing but not yet dead, then the team slot is still used.`
`16:33.10`	`BZSpiff`	`Hmm.... Quol.... that happens to me on your server sometimes and I can't connect as a player or an observer. :)`
`16:33.45`	`Quol_AtWork`	`yes - that's why I am bringing it up Spiffy... ;)`
`16:33.49`	`Quol_AtWork`	`ooops - brb..`
`16:35.50`	`TimRiker`	`~xmission`
`16:38.08`	`BZSpiff`	`Gee... I must be important. ;-)`
`16:38.11`	`TimRiker`	`~bzflist`
`16:38.54`	`TimRiker`	`xmission shows 7 players but there are 13 tcp connections to the server.`
`16:39.20`	`Quol_AtWork`	`Chestal/TimRiker: the fix is to just restart the instance then - is there anything I can do to help the issue to not happen as often as it seems to be happening?`
`16:41.08`	`BZSpiff`	`Well.... I'm off to exercise for a bit.`
`16:41.11`	`BZSpiff`	`Laterz all.`
`16:42.33`	`Quol_AtWork`	`cya Spiffy`
`16:43.24`	`Chestal`	`Quol: hmm, no idea what is happening exactly. The problem I had is obviously different`
`16:44.04`	`Chestal`	`Quol: are both teams blocked, or can it happen that teams show 2/4 full but red team can be joined, but green cannot?`
`16:45.16`	`Quol_AtWork`	`maybe I am wrong about the observer's being allowed to join - usually when it happens it can accept 2 red and 2 green 1 observer and no more`
`16:45.30`	`Quol_AtWork`	`everyone else gets a "game over or team full" message`
`16:46.57`	`Chestal`	`anyone with an up to date 1.9 care to test on ducati?`
`16:48.05`	`TimRiker`	`well the question is who are the other 5 connections on xmission?`
`16:48.18`	`TimRiker`	`(one was me)`
`16:48.47`	`Chestal`	`I didn't have severe problems with losing player slots lately`
`16:49.11`	`Chestal`	`I am allowing quite a few observers,though, thus I wouldn't usually notice it until 3 or 4 slots are lost`
`16:49.17`	`TimRiker`	`these are not lost slots. they are slots that are in use by non-players.`
`16:49.27`	`Quol_AtWork`	`TimRiker: are the other TCP connection in "TIME_WAIT" status? os "ESTABLISED"`
`16:49.38`	`Quol_AtWork`	`os = or`
`16:49.38`	`TimRiker`	`no. ESTABLISHED`
`16:49.42`	`Quol_AtWork`	`hmmm`
`16:51.15`	`Quol_AtWork`	`man that stats server opens so many connections to my servers!!`
`16:51.23`	`Quol_AtWork`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:51.35`	`[dmp]`	`hmm`
`16:51.51`	`[dmp]`	`whats your ip quol?`
`16:51.59`	`TimRiker`	`spam...`
`16:52.02`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 7u IPv4 1119582 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->212.10.48.35:4924 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.02`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 8u IPv4 1137440 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->172.143.30.41:1201 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.02`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 9u IPv4 1138045 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->66.112.86.65:64876 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.02`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 10u IPv4 521734 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->216.10.164.252:1061 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.05`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 11u IPv4 872866 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->209.144.174.3:32888 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.08`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 12u IPv4 1138079 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->80.55.85.26:2817 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.11`	`Quol_AtWork`	`currently a "netstat -na \| grep -i 66.62.140.11 \| wc" = 49`
`16:52.11`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 13u IPv4 1137390 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->68.86.119.233:3495 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.14`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 14u IPv4 872514 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->217.132.3.120:32782 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.17`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 15u IPv4 1006192 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->68.57.85.206:42695 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.22`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 16u IPv4 1138075 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->132.210.157.17:63697 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.25`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 17u IPv4 470297 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->194.19.225.120:1681 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.28`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 18u IPv4 1138083 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->132.210.157.17:63711 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.31`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 19u IPv4 1163059 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->212.10.48.35:1648 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.34`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 20u IPv4 470307 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->194.19.225.120:1704 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.37`	`TimRiker`	`bzfs 1508 timr 21u IPv4 1139739 TCP 166.70.135.189:5157->81.53.245.60:25089 (ESTABLISHED)`
`16:52.40`	`TimRiker`	`b`
`16:52.42`	`TimRiker`	`there's the list with 7 active players.`
`16:52.54`	`TimRiker`	`15 connections, 7 players.`
`16:53.21`	`TimRiker`	`not a good ratio if you ask me.`
`16:53.33`	`TimRiker`	`I'll look into it later and probably start blocking IPs`
`16:53.43`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: 65.39.216.149`
`16:54.00`	`TimRiker`	`headed out of town now. cya`
`16:55.06`	`Tupone`	`PlayerLink has dead ... and also Robots`
`16:55.10`	`[dmp]`	`Quol_AtWork: ah. stats as s.b.o.. I was affraid that i'd mess something up :-)`
`16:56.01`	`Chestal`	`Robots?`
`16:56.22`	`Tupone`	`I'm not able to play with Robot anymore.`
`16:56.30`	`Chestal`	`uhm, someone must have messed up`
`16:56.35`	`Chestal`	`but robots have been a mess for some time IMHO`
`16:56.53`	`Chestal`	`PlayerLink files are no longer active I think`
`16:57.07`	`Tupone`	`I fixed it for -requireudp. Now I suppose MAC has removed to much code`
`16:57.33`	`[dmp]`	`Quol_AtWork: do you got any connections to/from: 212.10.48.35 ?`
`16:57.49`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: I am jsut removing more :-)`
`16:58.47`	`Chestal`	`I wish I had a fast cvs browser`
`16:58.58`	`Chestal`	`usign the web based one on sf sucks so much`
`17:02.18`	`Chestal`	`does 1.9 still compile on BeOS? there's was a hack around the #include <bitset>`
`17:02.31`	`Chestal`	`but bitset include has moved to a different file, I assuem the hack should have moved with it?`
`17:04.22`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: you're c3po?`
`17:04.47`	`Tupone`	`Yeah`
`17:05.03`	`Tupone`	`I got a new segfault on brlcad`
`17:05.22`	`Tupone`	`But is not related to the ServerLink::read`
`17:07.52`	`Chestal`	`hmm, strangeness there`
`17:07.53`	`Chestal`	`you went nr`
`17:08.01`	`Chestal`	`I drove around a bit, server kicked me. Did you restart?`
`17:08.30`	`Tupone`	`Me went the same a segfaulted`
`17:12.01`	`Chestal`	`somethign is wrong with the authentication stuff, too`
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`17:14.28`	`CIA`	`03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (ServerLink.cxx): fix buffer overflow during read (buffer dimension assumed as MaxPacketLen)`
`17:15.23`	`Chestal`	`ow does one remove files from the repository? cvs remove <file>, then cvs commit?`
`17:15.42`	`Chestal`	`and do old versions of the file still live in the repository then?`
`17:16.43`	`Tupone`	`you have first to remove file on your working directory`
`17:17.30`	`Tupone`	`Then cvs remove <file>`
`17:17.35`	`Tupone`	`and the cvs commit`
`17:17.41`	`Tupone`	`old version still are in`
`17:17.48`	`Chestal`	`I am thinking of src/bzflag/PlayerLink.cxx and .h`
`17:18.00`	`Tupone`	`Remember to update Makefile.am`
`17:18.27`	`Chestal`	`I think all traces are already removed`
`17:18.34`	`Chestal`	`only the files are still there`
`17:18.51`	`Tupone`	`trace? What you mean`
`17:19.28`	`Chestal`	`they're possibly still in MacOs project files or similar`
`17:19.44`	`Chestal`	`they are no longer included, linked against or in any autoconf files`
`17:20.37`	`Chestal`	`/src/platform/MacOSX/BZFlag.pbproj/project.pbxproj is the only file whichj containt the string`
`17:23.33`	`prot-work`	`yay i'm here`
`17:26.56`	`Chestal`	`I don't remember, who was the BeOS guy here?`
`17:27.14`	`Tupone`	`mmu_man?`
`17:28.49`	`Chestal`	`hmm, maybe`
`17:29.28`	`mmu_man`	`plop`
`17:30.05`	`Chestal`	`hmm, with the introduction of the observer team, authentication broke`
`17:30.27`	`Chestal`	`baaaad MAC`
`17:33.49`	`Chestal`	`mmu: you the BeOS man?`
`17:34.10`	`*** join/#bzflag Chikorita (~Chikumz33@205.197.172.223)`
`17:34.30`	`Chikorita`	`ooH spiffy iz here?`
`17:34.51`	`Chestal`	`idle for 30 minutes`
`17:34.57`	`Chikorita`	`heh BZspif`
`17:35.08`	`Chikorita`	`yea he iz bizzy playin on ducati`
`17:35.16`	`Chikorita`	`i jus talkin wif him dere`
`17:35.23`	`Chikorita`	`btw hi chestal`
`17:35.26`	`Chikorita`	`:0`
`17:35.30`	`Chikorita`	`oops`
`17:35.32`	`Chikorita`	`:)`
`17:35.37`	`Chikorita`	`dun shift key LoL`
`17:35.39`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: can you join 1.9 ducati? if so, please tell me before you join`
`17:35.42`	`Chikorita`	`dum*`
`17:35.42`	`Chestal`	`hi Chiko`
`17:36.12`	`Tupone`	`I can now`
`17:36.44`	`Chestal`	`ok, please come`
`17:37.32`	`Chestal`	`hmm?`
`17:37.43`	`Chikorita`	`wut iz 1.9 ducati?`
`17:37.56`	`Chikorita`	`iz dat a new server ? or bz version?`
`17:38.00`	`Chestal`	`version 1.9, current dev version`
`17:38.03`	`Chikorita`	`o i c`
`17:38.08`	`Tupone`	`Chestal: Seg-fault`
`17:38.08`	`Chikorita`	`k`
`17:38.10`	`BZSpiff`	`Yes... Spiffy is here.`
`17:38.30`	`BZSpiff`	`Hehe. I finally left..... got burnt out. My attention span when playing BZ is shortening by the day.`
`17:38.37`	`Chikorita`	`heh`
`17:38.46`	`Chikorita`	`wow iz dis ur first time here spiff?`
`17:38.54`	`BZSpiff`	`On IRC? Nah. :-)`
`17:38.59`	`Chikorita`	`o okies`
`17:39.01`	`BZSpiff`	`I just don't hang out here a lot.`
`17:39.05`	`Chikorita`	`i c`
`17:39.17`	`Chikorita`	`ibot: botsnack`
`17:39.17`		`aw, gee, Chikorita`
`17:39.19`	`BZSpiff`	`I used to come here to whine about problems and ask stupid questions a lot. Ask Patlabor and proton. ;-)`
`17:39.22`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`17:39.31`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: uhm, mien seems to be stable`
`17:39.38`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`17:39.45`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: wanted to test the new flags and my server changes`
`17:40.03`	`Chikorita`	`i come here 2 jus blab about stuff`
`17:40.19`	`Tupone`	`I redo`
`17:40.25`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: any idea why it is segfaulting?`
`17:40.57`	`Tupone`	`No! I lost my energy for detecting the read segfault: I need time to reload`
`17:41.02`	`Chikorita`	`my jaw hurtz`
`17:41.23`	`Chikorita`	`i chewed up a whole pack of Koolerz gum while playin bz jus now`
`17:41.24`	`Tupone`	`We can retry`
`17:41.27`	`Chestal`	`ok`
`17:41.35`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL! Geeez.`
`17:41.40`	`Chikorita`	`ya :/`
`17:41.50`	`Chikorita`	`:\* owwie`
`17:41.54`	`BZSpiff`	`I've read that you'll have a slimmer jawline if you chew a lot of gum. :-)`
`17:42.00`	`Chikorita`	`ooH`
`17:42.02`	`Chikorita`	`kewl`
`17:42.19`	`Chikorita`	`i play betta wen i chew bub gum`
`17:42.30`	`Chikorita`	`an listen 2 da tv`
`17:42.30`	`BZSpiff`	`Really? Hehehe. Cute. ;-)`
`17:42.43`	`Chikorita`	`uh huh :)`
`17:42.56`	`Chikorita`	`so wut band playz dat song spiff?`
`17:43.10`	`Chikorita`	`da 1 u mentioned b4 on da field`
`17:43.13`	`BZSpiff`	`I have a bad habbit of looking mean while I play BZ. I had my cam on while I was playing yesterday.. and everyone was asking me if I was angry or something.`
`17:43.22`	`Chikorita`	`LoL spiff`
`17:43.56`	`Chikorita`	`yea i got carried away taday an sed sumtin mean on ducati`
`17:44.34`	`BZSpiff`	`Oh... like?`
`17:44.37`	`Chikorita`	`i was on a team full of noobies an wee was fightin against all da exp. playaz an i CTF'ed buh it was sooo tuff`
`17:44.56`	`Chikorita`	`an i sed " die u dirty tomatoes "`
`17:45.01`	`Chikorita`	`:(`
`17:45.05`	`BZSpiff`	`That's mean? LoL`
`17:45.07`	`Chikorita`	`i feel ashame now`
`17:45.08`	`BZSpiff`	`I think it's funny. :-)`
`17:45.14`	`Chikorita`	`it was kinda meanish`
`17:45.26`	`Chikorita`	`buh c i was angry`
`17:45.31`	`BZSpiff`	`Well... coming from a rude person it might sound mean. Coming from you.. it just makes me smile. :-)`
`17:45.35`	`BZSpiff`	`Did ya get my PM?`
`17:45.36`	`Chikorita`	`cuz wee was gettin wooped`
`17:45.42`	`Chikorita`	`PM?`
`17:45.46`	`BZSpiff`	`Private Message.`
`17:45.47`	`Chikorita`	`o i c it`
`17:45.49`	`Chikorita`	`brb`
`17:45.54`	`BZSpiff`	`Okies.`
`17:47.06`	`prot-work`	`hrm`
`17:47.11`	`prot-work`	`its not scrolling :P`
`17:47.20`	`*** part/#bzflag prot-work (~jupiter@161.97.199.99)`
`17:47.24`	`*** join/#bzflag prot-work (~jupiter@161.97.199.99)`
`17:48.19`	`BZSpiff`	`I'm not sure why I got attached to that song, Chik. It just happened... LoL. :-)`
`17:49.22`	`Chikorita`	`k i got da addy i d/l lata Thnx Spiff :)`
`17:49.29`	`BZSpiff`	`Yw.`
`17:49.39`	`BZSpiff`	`If ya don't like punkrawk tho... I doubt you'll like it. :-)`
`17:49.52`	`Chikorita`	`hmm i dunno i like all kindsa music..`
`17:50.08`	`Chikorita`	`buh i hafta admit i not 2 familiar wif punkrawk`
`17:50.15`	`BZSpiff`	`It's not hardcore punk... but it's punkish.`
`17:50.25`	`Chikorita`	`o i c`
`17:51.04`	`Chikorita`	`~d`
`17:51.30`	`BZSpiff`	`This was a live version of it......`
`17:51.33`	`BZSpiff`	`http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/cbdrealplayermp3?clip=CD12022_7.RAM&title=Party-%20My%20House-%20Be%20There&bbag=99905292#CURR`
`17:51.44`	`Chikorita`	`o`
`17:52.00`	`Chikorita`	`iz it Xtian music?`
`17:52.29`	`Chikorita`	`i wil give it a good listen to then , heh`
`17:52.31`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: you still there?`
`17:52.39`	`BZSpiff`	`Yep. Well.... sort of. They do Christian and mainstream releases. They don't really do "Christian" songs... just good music... with no swearing and stuff.`
`17:52.43`	`Chestal`	`hmm, ok, several bugs`
`17:52.47`	`[dmp]`	`Quol_AtWork: yep`
`17:52.55`	`Chestal`	`but I don't think any of them is realetd to my latest changesm so I'll commit them`
`17:53.03`	`Chikorita`	`hi Quol`
`17:53.24`	`Tupone`	`Chestal: seg-fault happens while using the keyboard`
`17:53.26`	`Chikorita`	`brb again`
`17:53.33`	`patlabor221`	`prot-work: you ever hear of the "pimple" method of data hiding?`
`17:53.40`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: hmm, interesting? typign message or menus?`
`17:53.45`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: I do get connections from: 212.10.48.35`
`17:53.56`	`Quol_AtWork`	`hi Chikorita`
`17:54.04`	`Tupone`	`Chestal: last time while trying to reset the binding`
`17:54.15`	`prot-work`	`patlabor221: no`
`17:54.24`	`Chikorita`	`prodan told mee dat da werd "pickle" means "pimple" in german`
`17:54.36`	`Tupone`	`Chestal: and I strange things happens while typing`
`17:54.46`	`[dmp]`	`Quol_AtWork: Yeah, chestal asked me to add your servers. I was just wondering if they are hanging as you mentioned with s.b.o connections`
`17:55.21`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: mayeb there is a bug in there, proton did lots of changes to the keybindings stuff`
`17:55.46`	`*** join/#bzflag Sniper50 (~Sniper50@c-758c70d5.09-28-6c756e1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`17:55.51`	`[dmp]`	`Hi Sniper50`
`17:55.56`	`Sniper50`	`hi`
`17:55.57`	`Chikorita`	`hiya snipa`
`17:56.11`	`Sniper50`	`Any team available for a match against VBZ??`
`17:56.20`	`Tupone`	`Chestal: I have to go. Going vacation. Bye`
`17:56.28`	`Chestal`	`Tupone: have fun`
`17:56.35`	`Tupone`	`thanx`
`17:56.35`	`patlabor221`	`prot-work: I'm using it to get rid of all those void* members for vectors and stuff in my DLL exported classes. Basicly you define a struct imple; in the class, then a member that is is imple *pimple; and define the full struct in the CPP file for the class.`
`17:56.36`	`*** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-255-182.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)`
`17:56.37`	`BZSpiff`	`Man... I wish TAF was. I have no teammates online right now.`
`17:56.41`	`BZSpiff`	`Maybe in a couple of hours?`
`17:56.50`	`Chestal`	`hi Sniper: did you register " Sniper50" (leading blank) on purpose?`
`17:57.06`	`Chestal`	`I cannot play these days, too hot here`
`17:57.10`	`Sniper50`	`yes`
`17:57.29`	`Chestal`	`sniper50: ok, just wondering`
`17:57.35`	`Sniper50`	`register like Sniper 50`
`17:57.53`	`Chestal`	`mmu_man: hello`
`17:58.03`	`Sniper50`	`one blank between r and 5`
`17:58.53`	`Sniper50`	`spiff: Vbz not around after 45 min`
`17:59.00`	`BZSpiff`	`Awww. :-(`
`17:59.03`	`mmu_man`	`hi Chestal`
`17:59.07`	`mmu_man`	`BeOS user ?`
`17:59.11`	`Chestal`	`mmu_man: are you the BeOS man?`
`17:59.14`	`BZSpiff`	`I don't think asdf or free will be on for a couple of hours yet.`
`17:59.43`	`Sniper50`	`ok next week i work and bamf is on vacation`
`18:00.03`	`Chikorita`	`i wanna match...`
`18:00.14`	`BZSpiff`	`OoOo.... so you won't be around?`
`18:00.26`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: s.b.o connections?`
`18:00.30`	`Sniper50`	`yes on mornings for me`
`18:00.43`	`Sniper50`	`week after that im out of town`
`18:01.00`	`BZSpiff`	`What time is it where you are Sniper?`
`18:01.06`	`Sniper50`	`20.00`
`18:01.30`	`[dmp]`	`Quol_AtWork: the stats site. The one with 49 connections hanging.`
`18:01.36`	`Sniper50`	`An hour between us right?`
`18:02.04`	`Sniper50`	`dmp: adress to your site please`
`18:02.19`	`[dmp]`	`Sniper50: ladder.bzflag.org`
`18:02.24`	`BZSpiff`	`It's 1:01 PM here.`
`18:02.24`	`Sniper50`	`ty`
`18:02.28`	`BZSpiff`	`http://ladder.bzflag.org`
`18:02.29`	`BZSpiff`	`;-)`
`18:02.29`	`Chikorita`	`spiff iz in da U.S`
`18:02.32`	`CIA`	`03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): get rid of now unused multicast code in bzfs, only pings remaining; unbreak authentication; move BEOS work around to where it actually makes sense; note to self: commit one thing at a time`
`18:02.47`	`mmu_man`	`Chestal yes`
`18:02.47`	`BZSpiff`	`I'm -7 GMT.`
`18:02.49`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: ahhh - didn't understand - sorry about that, a little slow there on my part - short answer is no - tI see only 2`
`18:02.57`	`Chestal`	`mmu_man: have you tried to build 1.9 code lately?`
`18:03.03`	`mmu_man`	`no`
`18:03.19`	`Chestal`	`mmu_man: the point is the #define private public hack around #incude <bitset>. Is it still needed?`
`18:03.28`	`Quol_AtWork`	`man still 47 connections from noodles stats server!!!`
`18:03.32`	`[dmp]`	`Quol_AtWork: Good.. Otherwise please let me know, if its bugging you or causing problems.`
`18:03.46`	`mmu_man`	`Chestal it's to work around a bug in our gcc`
`18:04.06`	`CIA`	`03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (Permissions.h): move BEOS work around to where it actually makes sense`
`18:04.14`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: OK - will do`
`18:04.25`	`Chestal`	`mmu: ok, was asking because the bitset include moved to a different file, so I better move the define along. It's needed when including bitset every time, yes?`
`18:04.38`	`mmu_man`	`yup`
`18:05.26`	`Chikorita`	`spiff u r in mountain time zone?`
`18:05.31`	`Chikorita`	`or central time?`
`18:06.07`	`Chikorita`	`i tho eastern standard time iz -5GMT?`
`18:06.14`	`CIA`	`03chestal * 12bzflag/include (WordFilter.h): more BEOS workaround`
`18:06.18`	`mmu_man`	`is SF.net still lagging days on anon cvs ?`
`18:06.21`	`BZSpiff`	`Central. :)`
`18:06.26`	`BZSpiff`	`Hmm..... maybe I am -6.`
`18:06.28`	`BZSpiff`	`I've lost track.`
`18:06.41`	`mmu_man`	`<picky> it's BeOS with a small e :P</picky>`
`18:06.42`	`Chikorita`	`ah okies :)`
`18:07.13`	`Chestal`	`hmm, can someoen confirm that after I do a cvs remove and a commit, old versions of file will still be in repository?`
`18:09.12`	`prot-work`	`wow...my brain is having issues`
`18:09.19`	`prot-work`	`patlabor221: you're in WDT, right?`
`18:09.28`	`patlabor221`	`WDT?`
`18:09.37`	`prot-work`	`time zone`
`18:09.50`	`patlabor221`	`I'm UTC -7 now`
`18:09.55`	`patlabor221`	`since it's daylight savings`
`18:10.00`	`prot-work`	`yeah but its called western time right?`
`18:10.02`	`Chestal`	`I'm afraid. Someone please say that cvs remove is the righ thing to do for the PlayerLInk files`
`18:10.05`	`patlabor221`	`pacific`
`18:10.08`	`BZSpiff`	`Isn't it PST?`
`18:10.13`	`patlabor221`	`PST`
`18:10.14`	`prot-work`	`bleh, right`
`18:10.14`	`Chikorita`	`ya`
`18:10.14`	`patlabor221`	`yes`
`18:10.18`	`prot-work`	`rather PDT`
`18:10.30`	`patlabor221`	`Pacific Standard Time`
`18:10.39`	`prot-work`	`except you're on Pacific Daylight Time right now`
`18:10.43`	`patlabor221`	`yeah`
`18:10.44`	`patlabor221`	`true`
`18:10.45`	`patlabor221`	`:)`
`18:11.03`	`patlabor221`	`see your brain works`
`18:12.25`	`CIA`	`03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (2 files): PlayerLink.cxx and .h are no longer used, dump them; they still seem to be referenced in the MacOS project file, though`
`18:15.51`	`*** join/#bzflag Michaelh (Mouse@172-21.dynamic.visi.com)`
`18:16.20`	`BZSpiff`	`What song is that, Patlabor?`
`18:16.47`	`patlabor221`	`- Rock Anthem For Saving The World.mp3`
`18:16.57`	`BZSpiff`	`CooL. :-)`
`18:17.04`	`*** part/#bzflag Sniper50 (~Sniper50@c-758c70d5.09-28-6c756e1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`18:17.34`	`patlabor221`	`let me put in BFOJ`
`18:17.46`	`prot-work`	`'chellos' ?`
`18:17.57`	`patlabor221`	`I didn't know how to spell it ;(`
`18:18.26`	`patlabor221`	`http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/tunes/Halo%20Soundtrack/Marty%20O'Donnell%20&%20Michael%20Salvatori%20-%20Rock%20Anthem%20For%20Saving%20The%20World.mp3`
`18:18.31`	`BZSpiff`	`~dict cello`
`18:18.41`	`patlabor221`	`yeah those things cap plays`
`18:18.48`	`*** join/#bzflag prodan (~prodan@dial-in191.rz.uni-mannheim.de)`
`18:18.54`	`BZSpiff`	`Very cool, proton. :-D`
`18:19.02`	`Michaelh`	`spaces in urls rule`
`18:19.17`	`patlabor221`	`it's all automated`
`18:19.34`	`patlabor221`	`I'm not gonna rename all the music cus people can't deal with a %20 :)`
`18:19.47`	`prot-work`	`spaces are for losers`
`18:19.50`	`BZSpiff`	`It just looks ugly. ;-)`
`18:20.10`	`patlabor221`	`yeah, the URL system is not purdy, 80's tech`
`18:20.24`	`BZSpiff`	`Oh well. Nouthing's perfect. :-D`
`18:20.40`	`BZSpiff`	`Geez... this song is all percussion. Hehe.`
`18:20.44`	`patlabor221`	`cap spaces are the future :)`
`18:21.01`	`patlabor221`	`most of halo is, the beat goes with the game`
`18:21.09`	`patlabor221`	`tho the game music is adaptive`
`18:21.21`	`BZSpiff`	`Ohhh. Right. I've never played it... but I have some friends that do.`
`18:21.39`	`BZSpiff`	`Well..... the drums rock. :-)`
`18:22.09`	`patlabor221`	`you should listen to it all`
`18:22.34`	`BZSpiff`	`That's most of the reason that I like Vince DiCola music..... the drum tracks rock.`
`18:22.46`	`BZSpiff`	`I have a CD full of his songs just to practice with. :-)`
`18:23.13`	`patlabor221`	`wel prot-work are they cellos?`
`18:23.45`	`BZSpiff`	`Is Chik still here? Paging Chik! Paging Chik! :-)`
`18:36.30`	`Chikorita`	`halo r0x0rs`
`18:36.38`	`Chikorita`	`heehe i sed r0x0rs`
`18:37.20`	`Chikorita`	`i remember i play it wen it first came out . dat game kinda skeery`
`18:37.54`	`Chikorita`	`i used 2 called da weird lookin monsters da limps "carnies" cuz dey remind mee of carny folk`
`18:38.11`	`Chikorita`	`it also mah pet name for Carnage cuz he remind mee of dem LoL`
`18:38.38`	`Chikorita`	`an den there r da popcorn monstaz`
`18:38.53`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`18:38.56`	`BZSpiff`	`Oooooooookies. :-)`
`18:38.59`	`Chikorita`	`dat pop da lil popcorn creepies wen u shoot dem`
`18:39.29`	`patlabor221`	`the grunts?`
`18:39.46`	`BZSpiff`	`I want to make a game where you blow up vegetables. That would be fun for people of all ages..... ;-)`
`18:39.50`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`18:39.54`	`Chikorita`	`lol spiff`
`18:40.05`	`patlabor221`	`Vegitales: the Vengance.!`
`18:40.15`	`Chikorita`	`omg dat remind mee of an old arcade game i used 2 luv`
`18:40.49`	`Chikorita`	`u go around walkin on dese hamburger parts an dey fall down an make a hamburger`
`18:40.56`	`patlabor221`	`burgertime`
`18:41.02`	`Chikorita`	`buh den dere r like pickles an tomatoes chasin u`
`18:41.09`	`Chikorita`	`BurgerTime!!! yes!`
`18:41.14`	`Chikorita`	`LoL`
`18:41.20`	`Chikorita`	`i luvved dat game`
`18:41.29`	`Chikorita`	`dat an frogger`
`18:41.34`	`patlabor221`	`you can play it on an emu.`
`18:42.15`	`BZSpiff`	`Frogger!!!!!!! Ahhhh.... that game was so frusterating. :-)`
`18:42.16`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`18:42.21`	`BZSpiff`	`Wb learner. :-D`
`18:44.06`	`BZSpiff`	`LoL`
`18:51.26`	`Chikorita`	`mee2 im runnin on empty :P`
`18:51.49`	`Chikorita`	`hmm i gues it really iz BurgerTime! for mee LoL`
`18:52.43`	`Chikorita`	`bbl all byez`
`18:52.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`bye`
`18:54.50`	`Quol_AtWork`	`does anyone know if there is a way to keep the "bans" on a restart of the server instance?`
`18:55.57`	`Chestal`	`no, you can supply a list of bans as a parameter (or in config file), but /ban IPs are not persistent`
`18:56.12`	`Quol_AtWork`	`that's what I thought`
`18:56.24`	`Quol_AtWork`	`also - I just thought of something Chestal`
`18:57.11`	`Quol_AtWork`	`could the "running out of slots" issue be agitated by the "stats" servers always connecting?`
`18:57.50`	`Quol_AtWork`	`for instance - right now I have 12 sessions from 66.62.140.111 connection to my CTF server`
`18:57.57`	`Quol_AtWork`	`that's TCP sessions`
`18:58.05`	`learnerAtWork`	`persistent??`
`18:58.08`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's bad`
`18:58.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`they should have disconnected`
`18:58.25`	`Quol_AtWork`	`ya - in total I have 49 sessions from 66.62.140.111`
`18:59.02`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[root@Qube: pages]$ netstat -na \| grep 66.62.140.111`
`18:59.02`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8088 66.62.140.111:34519 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.02`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8088 66.62.140.111:47991 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.02`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8082 66.62.140.111:45718 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.02`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8082 66.62.140.111:49269 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.04`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8088 66.62.140.111:44371 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.07`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8090 66.62.140.111:48211 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.09`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8082 66.62.140.111:44465 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.12`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8086 66.62.140.111:50001 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.14`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8088 66.62.140.111:42833 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.17`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8088 66.62.140.111:50225 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.20`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8086 66.62.140.111:48592 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.22`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8090 66.62.140.111:44272 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.25`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8086 66.62.140.111:58751 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.27`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8090 66.62.140.111:60991 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.30`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8086 66.62.140.111:56541 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.32`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8088 66.62.140.111:43069 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.35`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tcp 0 0 65.39.216.149:8090 66.62.140.111:48445 ESTABLISHED`
`18:59.37`	`Quol_AtWork`	`sorry - didn't mean to paste that much`
`18:59.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`I don't mind`
`19:00.03`	`Quol_AtWork`	`that's just 10 of themn`
`19:00.17`	`Quol_AtWork`	`when I do netstat -na I get a whole wack of them - now it's up to 50`
`19:00.31`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[root@Qube: pages]$ netstat -na \| grep 66.62.140.111 \| wc`
`19:00.31`	`Quol_AtWork`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:05.17`	`Quol_AtWork`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:05.27`	`Quol_AtWork`	`ooops wrong window :)`
`19:07.23`	`Quol_AtWork`	`If I increase the amount of observers - will that also increase the amount of total slots thereby hopefully minimizing the occurances of these "ran out of slots so the user can't connect" issue?`
`19:07.34`	`Quol_AtWork`	`I guess it will...???`
`19:09.03`	`Quol_AtWork`	`15 observers allowed now - let's see if that helps :)`
`19:09.49`	`learnerAtWork`	`that really sounds like a bug in the communication protocol`
`19:10.06`	`Quol_AtWork`	`chestal and Tim said that it was`
`19:10.08`	`learnerAtWork`	`unclean destruction of the network port leaving a stale connection`
`19:10.19`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah`
`19:10.34`	`Quol_AtWork`	`they said that it was much better with g2`
`19:11.49`	`Quol_AtWork`	`mine is craping out every week as it is - I would have hated to see it before :)`
`19:12.13`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`19:13.05`	`Quol_AtWork`	`steady at 49 connections from noodles stats server...`
`19:13.11`	`learnerAtWork`	`the fact that all of your stale connections are the list server should help isolating the problem, though`
`19:13.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`s/list/stats/`
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`19:14.06`	`Quol_AtWork`	`and they are all established connections - only 2 of them are in TIME_WAIT`
`19:14.18`	`learnerAtWork`	`I haven't run into the issue since my dev bz server is forcibly restarted frequently`
`19:14.35`	`Quol_AtWork`	`so that's 47 active TCP connections across 5 bzfs instances`
`19:14.38`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'd be interested in seeing the other machine (noodles)`
`19:15.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'd bet his machine has completely detached`
`19:15.46`	`Quol_AtWork`	`I know he was having problems with it - or his ISP at least..`
`19:18.36`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: is there a URL to get to your stats - is it stats you are collecting??`
`19:19.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`dmp has a stats site -- ladders`
`19:19.55`	`Quol_AtWork`	`url??`
`19:19.57`	`learnerAtWork`	`http://bzflag.baat.dk/new/`
`19:20.05`	`Quol_AtWork`	`ty`
`19:20.44`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, you are #1 on your own server -- I suspect a conspiracy`
`19:21.37`	`Quol_AtWork`	`heh`
`19:21.41`	`Chestal`	`hmm, what's this 'xxoo' that lots of peopel but before/after their name on emails or guestbook entries? pseudo-signature?`
`19:21.46`	`Quol_AtWork`	`amazing what money can do`
`19:22.04`	`learnerAtWork`	`hugs 'n kisses??`
`19:22.14`	`Chestal`	`hmm`
`19:22.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`x == hug o == kiss`
`19:22.25`	`Chestal`	`where does that come from?`
`19:23.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`maybe a western culture thing? maybe not hugsn'kisses`
`19:23.19`	`learnerAtWork`	`url?`
`19:23.44`	`Chestal`	`I thinkyou're right`
`19:23.51`	`Chestal`	`just never seenit before`
`19:23.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`wtf.. how'd I get back into the top of ladder??`
`19:24.08`	`Chestal`	`play a lot or bribe [dmp]`
`19:24.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`dmp must be changing how he ranks`
`19:24.22`	`learnerAtWork`	`I haven't been playing... hehe`
`19:25.00`	`Chestal`	`old scores expire`
`19:25.04`	`learnerAtWork`	`OOOOoooohhh.. I like the new groups :)`
`19:25.12`	`Chestal`	`so when you don't play anymore, you'll slowly move towards the 1200 again`
`19:25.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`I know ches.. I was dropping like a bat because of old scores expiring`
`19:25.34`	`learnerAtWork`	`I checked last week and I was down in the hundreds`
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`19:25.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`I play even less, and I'm back into top 25`
`19:26.06`	`Quol_AtWork`	`how did I ever manage to make it to 23??`
`19:26.37`	`Quol_AtWork`	`everytime I play I feel like I am getting worse - not like the good old days a year and a half ago :) - lol`
`19:27.21`	`BagsAtWork`	`you playing ctf or ffa`
`19:27.39`	`learnerAtWork`	`hmm.. my "all ctf server" ranking has started climbing up too`
`19:28.25`	`Quol_AtWork`	`that's for the CTF score BagsAtWork`
`19:28.39`	`Quol_AtWork`	`learnerAtWork: not bad - 53'rd`
`19:29.10`	`Quol_AtWork`	`the next time I see deadmeat I have to kill him lots :)`
`19:29.18`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh, I don't play enough to keep it up`
`19:29.21`	`Quol_AtWork`	`and asdf also :)`
`19:29.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`I've been in the low 20's/teens`
`19:29.31`	`BagsAtWork`	`hard to really judge yourself on those things when several of the good players go by many different names`
`19:29.50`	`learnerAtWork`	`yes, the ranking is biased towards biased teams`
`19:30.01`	`learnerAtWork`	`if you don't like playing unfair teams, you won't rank well`
`19:30.33`	`learnerAtWork`	`Ah.. he did change the algorithm a little`
`19:30.40`	`learnerAtWork`	`now it's only past 2 months`
`19:30.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`it was past 6 months or soemthing`
`19:31.05`	`BagsAtWork`	`yeah, i still think there is something hokey with it`
`19:31.13`	`learnerAtWork`	`plus single player team captures are ignored`
`19:31.26`	`BagsAtWork`	`either that or someone else was using my call sign when i was testing it`
`19:31.52`	`learnerAtWork`	`It'll be interesting to see how the duration latter settles out over a couple months :)`
`19:37.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`[dmp]: my score's rising.. keep up the good work :)`
`19:37.26`	`[dmp]`	`Erhm thanks :)`
`19:38.06`	`[dmp]`	`Then you wont mind that i blame you when the server freezes when it needs to do a "tour de swapdisk"`
`19:38.37`	`learnerAtWork`	`blame away as long as you don't expect me to do anything about it :)`
`19:38.44`	`[dmp]`	`:)`
`19:38.49`	`learnerAtWork`	`(unless you give me a shell account) :)`
`19:39.00`	`[dmp]`	`solution = more memory.`
`19:39.29`	`[dmp]`	`worked fine with the extra 512mb that burned. hardly noticed the load from the ladder. Now.. Well. its swaps.`
`19:39.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`that sucks`
`19:40.21`	`*** join/#bzflag tea\|tree_ (~tea\|tree@pD9E96EB8.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`19:40.55`	`[dmp]`	`Perhaps I should make a "donate 20$ and get 500 points" :-)`
`19:41.09`	`[dmp]`	`calico was complaining that he had no competition :)`
`19:41.26`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, at 2 months a donation you could open up business :)`
`19:41.36`	`[dmp]`	`cool :)`
`19:42.19`	`Chestal`	`anyone available with curent 1.9 client?`
`19:42.52`	`[dmp]`	`Chestal: Not yet, but i can do a cvs update`
`19:43.18`	`[dmp]`	`Oh, no i cant.`
`19:43.39`	`CIA`	`03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (RadarRenderer.cxx): limit radar range when underground, even before burrowed all the way`
`19:46.03`	`CIA`	`03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (LocalPlayer.cxx): when deeper than allowed, slowly crawl up, but don't jump to ground level; this solves the high jump for exploding burrowed tank problem`
`19:46.24`	`*** join/#bzflag nikt (nikt@nikt.org)`
`19:46.35`	`[dmp]`	`Even if i did update, it would still be outdated? (anon cvs)`
`19:46.38`	`Quol_AtWork`	`tanks can go underground?`
`19:48.44`	`prot-work`	`burrow`
`19:49.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`there are actually little tank-like vehicles that can burrow so I won't go looking for my pitchfork`
`19:50.37`	`Chestal`	`dmp: hmm, yes`
`19:50.51`	`Chestal`	`two burrow bugs left`
`19:51.01`	`Chestal`	`would liek to test thief, it looked strange earlier`
`19:55.28`	`Chestal`	`flags do not seem to expire onmy 1.9 server`
`19:55.45`	`prot-work`	`Chestal: i've noticed that...`
`19:55.57`	`prot-work`	`possibly got nuked in the flag reorg`
`19:56.17`	`Chestal`	`prot: come on, I know that you can join witha curent 1.9 :-)`
`19:56.42`	`learnerAtWork`	`I can join observer, ches, if that might help`
`19:56.53`	`prot-work`	`Chestal: don't have a client here at work`
`19:57.03`	`Chestal`	`learner: hmm, why observer?`
`19:57.19`	`learnerAtWork`	`I don't have a client, but I can bzadmin remotely`
`19:57.36`	`learnerAtWork`	`are you testing network?`
`19:58.57`	`Chestal`	`no, you'd need an up to date 1.9 client`
`20:01.15`	`Quol_AtWork`	`Chestal: can I get an up to date one from CVS logging on as anonymous...?`
`20:01.37`	`*** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com)`
`20:01.37`	`Chestal`	`not quite an up to date one`
`20:01.58`	`Chestal`	`you coudl use the tarballs, I think those are upto date`
`20:02.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/`
`20:03.24`	`Quol_AtWork`	`learnerAtWork: is that the whole tree or just 1.9?`
`20:07.29`	`[dmp]`	`Quol_AtWork: seems to be bzflag 1.9 only.`
`20:08.50`	`learnerAtWork`	`eh?`
`20:09.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's a cvs snapshot -- whole module`
`20:09.28`	`learnerAtWork`	`it's latest cvs source`
`20:10.00`	`prot-work`	`...whole tree?`
`20:13.04`	`patlabor221`	`mmmm fish :)`
`20:16.06`	`[dmp]`	`suggestion: perhaps configure should check for ogg libraries?`
`20:16.30`	`Quol_AtWork`	`will it compile on MS VC++?`
`20:16.37`	`Quol_AtWork`	`1.9 I mean`
`20:16.49`	`learnerAtWork`	`should (probably not though :)`
`20:17.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`pat, did you get things working?`
`20:18.07`	`Quol_AtWork`	`I should change my @ work name to something like "Quol_AtWorkButNotDoingAnyWorkAtAll"`
`20:18.31`	`patlabor221`	`???`
`20:18.34`	`patlabor221`	`did I get what working?`
`20:18.38`	`patlabor221`	`did somone bust something?`
`20:18.52`	`prot-work`	`bwahahahaha`
`20:18.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe, you were building on win32 a week or two ago.. :)`
`20:19.00`	`patlabor221`	`awwwww dang`
`20:19.09`	`learnerAtWork`	`you're my win32 point man :)`
`20:19.14`	`patlabor221`	`heh`
`20:19.15`	`prot-work`	`navi is going to be the most frightening file server west of the missisippi`
`20:19.26`	`patlabor221`	`so just ask me to make you a new one :)`
`20:31.46`	`CIA`	`03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): fix flag expiration bug (and rewrite some code along the way)`
`20:37.26`	`patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/19/`
`20:49.26`	`Quol_AtWork`	`I am off - see you guys later`
`20:56.45`	`*** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com)`
`20:56.57`	`BZSpiff`	`Chestal?`
`20:58.07`	`BZSpiff`	`Or [dmp] could enter it if Chestal isn't around?`
`20:58.52`	`[dmp]`	`im here`
`20:59.06`	`BZSpiff`	`TDS vs TAF>`
`20:59.09`	`BZSpiff`	`TAF won 7/2.`
`20:59.55`	`[dmp]`	`oh, i wont enter that :)`
`21:00.47`	`BZSpiff`	`:-P :-)`
`21:00.52`	`[dmp]`	`who did play?`
`21:01.10`	`BZSpiff`	`calico, root, and prodan against asdf, free, and me.`
`21:01.30`	`[dmp]`	`You gained 18 points.`
`21:01.35`	`[dmp]`	`Congrats.`
`21:01.40`	`BZSpiff`	`Thanks. :-)`
`21:07.40`	`tea\|tree_`	`huhu`
`21:08.09`	`tea\|tree_`	`[dmp] u seem like Ali G. ^^`
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`21:25.45`	`patlabor221`	`bahh, libpng comes with crap docs`
`21:41.52`	`*** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se)`
`21:51.55`	`tea\|tree_`	`im board`
`22:09.03`	`patlabor221`	`hmmm I wonder what I'm gonna have to do to get cap to scons up this thing :)`
`22:09.30`	`prot-work`	`free stuff is always a good motivator ;-)`
`22:09.47`	`patlabor221`	`ohh damn I still have that other stick to send you`
`22:10.00`	`patlabor221`	`heh`
`22:10.33`	`prot-work`	`;)`
`22:10.43`	`patlabor221`	`I know`
`22:10.50`	`patlabor221`	`I was just suporised to find them`
`22:11.05`	`patlabor221`	`found like 8 sound cards, but not a single working video card`
`22:11.18`	`prot-work`	`heh`
`22:11.43`	`patlabor221`	`puting the media server together for the livingroom`
`22:12.17`	`patlabor221`	`it's also gonna be the rip machine`
`22:12.39`	`prot-work`	`sounds like scanline's`
`22:12.51`	`patlabor221`	`well won't be that large and imposing`
`22:12.53`	`prot-work`	`although his media client is different from the media server`
`22:13.01`	`patlabor221`	`I have x-files season 1 now :)`
`22:13.23`	`prot-work`	`soon the media server will be a oh-so-sexy 1.2TB`
`22:14.41`	`patlabor221`	`adonde?`
`22:15.13`	`prot-work`	`hrm?`
`22:15.25`	`patlabor221`	`where`
`22:15.55`	`patlabor221`	`damn I love this burner :)`
`22:17.24`	`*** join/#bzflag niksie (~nkist@pool-151-203-79-19.bos.east.verizon.net)`
`22:17.27`	`niksie`	`hey`
`22:17.53`	`niksie`	`totally offtopic question, I'm looking for some games with the same fun and playabillity of bzflag but not like bzflag`
`22:18.08`	`niksie`	`I'm at a firends house and we want to play a game where we are evenly matched :)`
`22:18.20`	`prot-work`	`poopmup!`
`22:18.24`	`prot-work`	`ahem`
`22:20.37`	`niksie`	`heh`
`22:25.13`	`*** join/#bzflag dheckaman_ (~joe@64-44-153-2.user.uswo.net)`
`22:26.43`	`[dmp]`	`niksie: if you use windows, you should try soldat. My brothers use alot of time on it. its 2d action game with alot of different weapons.`
`22:27.01`	`niksie`	`I'm on macosx and my friend is on windows`
`22:29.38`	`[dmp]`	`Its windows only afaik.`
`22:30.03`	`prot-work`	`learnerAtWork: heh`
`22:30.13`	`prot-work`	`learnerAtWork: i'll be leaving for home in 30 minutes ;)`
`22:33.04`	`prot-work`	`or maybe sooner`
`22:34.48`	`learnerAtWork`	`=)`
`22:37.08`	`prot-work`	`hmm`
`22:37.15`	`prot-work`	`the phone here has a "powered by red hat" sticker`
`22:45.37`	`prot-work`	`nope`
`22:45.55`	`prot-work`	`i didn't know redhat did analog though`
`22:47.15`	`lurgyman`	`heh`
`22:54.02`	`prot-work`	`time to go home`
`22:54.24`	`learnerAtWork`	`so soon??`
`22:54.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`22:56.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`slackers`
`23:23.34`	`captain_proton`	`work`
`23:23.47`	`BZSpiff`	`Ahhh... hehehe. :-)`
`23:35.26`	`*** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-107-29.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net)`
`23:38.13`	`tea\|tree_`	`^^`
`23:46.48`	`*** part/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se)`
`23:50.56`	`patlabor221`	`cap do you have a windows machine there?`
`23:52.19`	`captain_proton`	`sort of`
`23:52.24`	`captain_proton`	`this machine is technically dual boot`
`23:52.31`	`patlabor221`	`http://jet.ro/dismount/`
`23:52.39`	`patlabor221`	`physics`

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