| 00:13.15 | fiberchunks_ | bzgirl, you around? |
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| 00:13.42 | bzgirl | yes |
| 00:14.26 | fiberchunks_ | cool -- can you tell me why I change my ~/.fluxbox/init and when I click on 'reload config' it reverts to some default somewhere, instead of parsing the file in my homedir? |
| 00:14.54 | fiberchunks_ | I've been dicking around with this now for about an hour, and am getting highly irritated |
| 00:15.35 | fiberchunks_ | I moved /usr/share/commonbox/init to /usr/share/commonbox/init-old-crap and that didn't help |
| 00:16.07 | bzgirl | is there no /usr/share/fluxbox/init? |
| 00:16.17 | bzgirl | what is commonbox? |
| 00:16.30 | fiberchunks_ | that's where things are stored now |
| 00:16.37 | fiberchunks_ | /usr/share/commonbox |
| 00:16.38 | bzgirl | ahh |
| 00:18.27 | bzgirl | look at ~/.fluxbox/menuconfig |
| 00:18.51 | fiberchunks_ | menuconfig? no such animal |
| 00:19.02 | bzgirl | this should tell flux what menus and stuff to use |
| 00:19.11 | bzgirl | what version? |
| 00:19.23 | fiberchunks_ | Failed to load groupfile: |
| 00:19.23 | fiberchunks_ | BScreen::BScreen: an error occured while querying the X server. |
| 00:19.23 | fiberchunks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.23 | fiberchunks_ | Blackbox::Blackbox: no managable screens found, aborting |
| 00:19.23 | fiberchunks_ | Fluxbox: Unknown error. |
| 00:19.28 | fiberchunks_ | dammit |
| 00:19.49 | fiberchunks_ | 0.1.14-r1 |
| 00:20.30 | bzgirl | hmm, i compile the cvs version |
| 00:21.33 | bzgirl | you say "thats where things are stored now" by whom? Gentoo? |
| 00:22.02 | fiberchunks_ | well, it doesn't have anything to do with version though, cause it works fine downstairs. What is really baffling, is that I change my ~/.fluxbox/init, reload the config, and some mystery program resets MY changes |
| 00:22.22 | fiberchunks_ | bzgirl: yah, I think they consolidated all the *boxes into /usr/share/commonbox |
| 00:23.18 | fiberchunks_ | I would stfw for it, but I'm emerging a browser now -- urgh, I'll go downstairs and search -- this sux |
| 00:23.46 | bzgirl | do you have an /etc/X11/fluxbox dir? |
| 00:24.31 | bzgirl | theres an init file there |
| 00:24.37 | fiberchunks_ | yah, all that's in it is a session file with /usr/bin/fluxbox in it -- but I never hit the sessions crap anyway, I load with startx and an xinit file in ~ |
| 00:24.38 | bzgirl | thats the one i copied |
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| 00:32.56 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: what command are you using to reload the config? |
| 00:35.13 | fiberchunks | the menu item in fluxbox -- 'reload config' |
| 00:35.37 | fiberchunks | they say this was fixed in versions post 0.1.8, but I disagree |
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| 00:36.10 | fiberchunks | although -- this _didn't_ happen when I installed flux on my desktop -- but it may be something to do with reloading the config when flux is running -- which seems entirely stupid |
| 00:36.52 | bzgirl | are you adding custom items to your menu? |
| 00:37.01 | bzgirl | hi Chikorita |
| 00:37.03 | fiberchunks | I'll go back upstairs and try killing X, editing the file and restarting X, but I have to wait for a compile to finish first |
| 00:37.10 | Chikorita | hi bzgirl :) |
| 00:37.16 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> no, not yet, just trying to get the stupid init file to not change |
| 00:38.00 | fiberchunks | and to actually take my changes and apply them |
| 00:38.53 | bzgirl | try using find or locate, get all the init files you can see and move them somewhere except for your home one |
| 00:39.08 | fiberchunks | actually, that makes sense, upon reflection -- init should only get read once when flux starts, so I guess I have to edit it while not in flux :\ |
| 00:39.17 | bzgirl | :) |
| 00:39.40 | fiberchunks | although 'reload config' implies that changes can be dynamically made, whatever : |
| 00:39.46 | fiberchunks | thanks though :) |
| 00:40.08 | fiberchunks | you see my desktop screeny? |
| 00:40.25 | fiberchunks | http://fiberchunks.bakadigital.com/images/desktop.jpg iirc |
| 00:40.55 | bzgirl | ahh thought it was posted already |
| 00:41.47 | fiberchunks | it is, alink much like your own (since I swiped most of your links and edited to my tastes :) |
| 00:41.52 | bzgirl | your a minimalist |
| 00:42.05 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 00:42.12 | fiberchunks | how'd you tell ? ;) |
| 00:42.33 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.40 | fiberchunks | sci-fi |
| 00:42.44 | bzgirl | i have ladybugs on mine :) |
| 00:43.15 | Patlabor221 | still a scarey woman |
| 00:43.21 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 00:43.39 | bzgirl | are you using a custom xterm font? |
| 00:43.39 | fiberchunks | I've gotta get to editing my blog for 'niceness' ala herr labor's blog |
| 00:43.52 | fiberchunks | nah, just AA fonts in xterm |
| 00:44.01 | fiberchunks | xterm -fa "Andale Mono" -fs 8 |
| 00:44.30 | bzgirl | hmm, makes a skinny terminal though |
| 00:44.34 | fiberchunks | can size em however large or small you want em |
| 00:44.35 | bzgirl | but nice font |
| 00:44.39 | fiberchunks | change the geometry |
| 00:44.43 | bzgirl | right |
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| 00:44.58 | fiberchunks | Mod4 A :ExecCommand /usr/bin/X11/xterm -geometry 100x40 -fa "Andale Mono" -fg LightGrey -bg black |
| 00:44.59 | KR | nhi all |
| 00:45.01 | bzgirl | hi kr |
| 00:45.05 | fiberchunks | heya kr |
| 00:45.05 | KR | "n" oops |
| 00:45.27 | KR | too much in-battle talk :) |
| 00:46.15 | doughecka | try #xfree86 or #gentoo? |
| 00:46.26 | fiberchunks | what? |
| 00:46.50 | bzgirl | were OT |
| 00:47.00 | Chikorita | hi kr |
| 00:47.08 | Chikorita | lol kr |
| 00:47.22 | doughecka | I dont mind, but the people in #xfree86 might be able to help |
| 00:47.35 | fiberchunks | nah, I think it's just pilot error |
| 00:48.21 | fiberchunks_ | rah, only 3 more to compile to finish off gimp |
| 00:48.28 | doughecka | PEBKAC :P |
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| 00:51.25 | doughecka | hey quol!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:51.31 | Quol | howdy all |
| 00:51.44 | Quol | hey doughecka - what's up? |
| 00:52.15 | Quol | hey doug - did you ever go b the name of Tad at one point? |
| 00:52.48 | doughecka | possibly, along with redhat and breadhat |
| 00:52.50 | captain_proton | scanline: cute new drawable =) |
| 00:52.50 | doughecka | and teh13 |
| 00:53.39 | Quol | ahhh - just a wonderin b:) |
| 01:29.29 | Chikorita | bye all have a good weekend |
| 01:29.33 | Chikorita | :) |
| 01:39.47 | *** part/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 01:48.54 | scanline | captain_proton: hehe |
| 01:49.16 | scanline | captain_proton: I want to make som event binding-fu for that tso you can drag it around the screen :) |
| 01:49.35 | scanline | er.. lag |
| 01:54.04 | scanline | gah |
| 01:54.14 | scanline | and this OS X thingy doesn't have page up |
| 01:54.23 | scanline | ooh.. I have xterm here |
| 01:54.32 | captain_proton | tso? |
| 02:49.50 | *** part/#bzflag cale_ (~cale@Toronto-HSE-ppp3709986.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:16.59 | scanline | captain_proton: tried the video recorder? |
| 03:17.19 | scanline | I get around 10 FHz here while it's running, at 800x600 |
| 03:17.31 | captain_proton | no, i haven't |
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| 03:59.49 | scanline | ~nslookup cvs.sf.net |
| 03:59.50 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (70 files in 9 dirs): Change license header to reflect that this package isn't just for networking any more |
| 04:00.08 | captain_proton | yipes! |
| 04:10.28 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* if micah only used his powers for good... |
| 04:10.51 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 04:13.18 | Michaelh | where is that null/bogus shot fix? |
| 04:13.31 | MrApathyCream | it's pretty old by now |
| 04:13.32 | Michaelh | I get quite a few crashes playing on xmission |
| 04:13.39 | Michaelh | is it in g2? |
| 04:13.45 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 04:13.50 | MrApathyCream | f9 probably |
| 04:13.58 | Michaelh | somethings not right |
| 04:14.00 | Michaelh | f9? |
| 04:14.03 | MrApathyCream | the debugger doesn't catch it? |
| 04:14.09 | Michaelh | not at all |
| 04:14.15 | Michaelh | debug mode runs like a dream :) |
| 04:14.21 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 04:14.31 | Michaelh | great isn't it |
| 04:14.33 | MrApathyCream | wouldn't happen to have boundchecker would you? |
| 04:14.45 | Michaelh | nope |
| 04:14.49 | Michaelh | is it a windows util? |
| 04:15.27 | Michaelh | I suppose I could download the version off of the web and see it's something with my compiler etc.. |
| 04:15.37 | Michaelh | nearly always after I get shot by someone |
| 04:15.55 | Michaelh | but relatively rarely |
| 04:16.08 | Michaelh | once every 10 or 20 minutes it seems |
| 04:16.14 | scanline | hmm.. powers... |
| 04:16.32 | Michaelh | If no one else experiences it I have *no* idea what |
| 04:16.35 | Michaelh | 's happening |
| 04:17.03 | scanline | I bet if this micahjd fella and the legendary davidtrowbridge combined their powers, we could have a good deal of nifty evil |
| 04:18.16 | Michaelh | xmission is running a g1 server .. this *might* have something to do with it |
| 04:18.27 | Michaelh | not sure I see it elsewhere |
| 04:19.07 | captain_proton | scanline: i don't know if diablo could stand that |
| 04:19.19 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:19.22 | scanline | if only he didn't know my real name, we could have even more conspiracy |
| 04:19.29 | scanline | but I don't really ever try to hide it |
| 04:20.36 | captain_proton | before this i've never tried to hide it |
| 04:21.09 | scanline | :) |
| 04:21.40 | Michaelh | that's the dude with the menu right? |
| 04:21.55 | captain_proton | Michaelh: yep |
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| 04:57.56 | JBDiGriz | Why is proxyscan.freenode.net trying to access port 80 on my machine? |
| 04:58.19 | captain_proton | because they're scanning for proxies |
| 04:59.00 | JBDiGriz | Have I agreed to that by connecting? |
| 04:59.19 | captain_proton | i believe so |
| 04:59.35 | captain_proton | its harmless and helps them protect the network against most flood-bot attacks |
| 05:01.19 | JBDiGriz | I'm just detecting a number of attacks today, and I'm trying to pin down why the activity. Most of it is default.ida nonsense. |
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| 06:11.05 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Tidy up dependency on RandomArray, update readme |
| 06:13.40 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (EditorView.py): unbreak the upper right widget |
| 06:22.43 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (2 files): enhanced stereoscopy |
| 06:28.29 | fiberchunks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.34 | fiberchunks_ | cool |
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| 08:35.28 | sussudio | if anyone here has admin on xmission, please go there and kick Wyzards |
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| 12:11.24 | tea|tree | Hello :D |
| 12:25.28 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/doc (README): Python 2.2.1 is required for the True/False constants, note this in the README |
| 12:25.28 | [dmp] | jup |
| 12:26.29 | Quol | ~d |
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| 13:39.57 | [dmp] | ~d |
| 13:40.25 | Chestal | dmp: btw., Spiff had a problem with opening his team, so I did it via SQL |
| 13:41.08 | Chestal | [dmp]: I guess it happened as follows: 2 members, so team was open (cannot close); another joined, spiff closed, then kicked him; back 2 two players, but team was closed now |
| 13:41.37 | Chestal | [dmp]: on the edit page, it was not possible to reopen it, IIRC it that something about 'forced close' or something |
| 13:45.40 | [dmp] | sounds like it. |
| 13:46.05 | [dmp] | i dont like this open/close idea anyway :) |
| 13:46.31 | Chestal | maybe it should not be possible for peopel to join a team directly at all |
| 13:46.37 | Chestal | only request a join and leader must confirm? |
| 13:47.51 | [dmp] | i would prefer that. i think at least the teamleader should be aware of joining members. |
| 13:48.04 | [dmp] | as in, they need to accept them. |
| 13:48.39 | [dmp] | so if the team is dead, you cannot join it, even if its open. |
| 13:48.55 | [dmp] | the problem should just then, you need to have an active teamleader. |
| 13:49.49 | Chestal | is the team duration an average value? |
| 13:50.34 | [dmp] | yes. |
| 13:51.03 | [dmp] | hmm actually its the average of the teammembers on the player-duration ladder. |
| 13:51.28 | [dmp] | so inactive players/players who use another name isnt considered. |
| 13:51.32 | Chestal | it's debatable whether an average or the sum is more useful, not sure myself |
| 13:52.27 | [dmp] | me neither. i think a sum would be more interesting (seeing which team is most active) |
| 13:55.25 | [dmp] | next time duration is updated, team-duration is sum of the players durations. |
| 13:56.51 | Chestal | I think it already has updated itself |
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| 13:58.55 | tea|tree | Chestal: u there |
| 13:59.20 | [dmp] | it updates 35 and 55, so yes. |
| 13:59.26 | tea|tree | for what is this /identify password thing |
| 13:59.39 | tea|tree | i always do that before starting the game |
| 13:59.44 | tea|tree | but i dunno for what it is |
| 14:00.08 | Chestal | tea: good for you :-) Well, if you have identified, the serevr knows it's you |
| 14:00.25 | tea|tree | aaah |
| 14:00.29 | tea|tree | for bans and stuff |
| 14:00.30 | Quol | tea|tree- it's a way to register your callsign with the server |
| 14:00.36 | Chestal | tea: protects against people using your callsign and I can give privileges based on identity |
| 14:00.46 | tea|tree | aaah :D |
| 14:01.02 | tea|tree | Chestal: kannst mir gleich welche geben ^^ |
| 14:01.24 | Quol | it would be neat if there was a central "callsign server" and that on joining the game one was forced to "identify" himself |
| 14:01.29 | tea|tree | Chestal: funzelt das auch mit aliases? |
| 14:01.38 | Quol | then that would really help to protect against others using your callsing.. |
| 14:01.45 | tea|tree | registered by the ip |
| 14:01.53 | tea|tree | ore something like that |
| 14:02.03 | Chestal | tea: ne, ist an einen Namen gebunden |
| 14:02.08 | tea|tree | ooh! |
| 14:02.14 | tea|tree | Chestal: is ja bloed |
| 14:02.28 | tea|tree | Chestal: was passiert wenn ich mit anderen nick den registrier |
| 14:02.53 | Chestal | du kannst dir beliebig viele Namen registrieren, wenn du meinst, dass es was bringt. Die sind dann aber unabhaengig voneinander |
| 14:03.05 | tea|tree | also dass ist bloed |
| 14:03.14 | tea|tree | das müsste mit aliases funzelen |
| 14:03.25 | tea|tree | auserdem sollte es eine richtige stats seite geben |
| 14:03.33 | tea|tree | wie www.d-g-c.de |
| 14:03.40 | tea|tree | dann auf stats |
| 14:03.49 | tea|tree | zeig auch welche flagge man am meisten aufgehoben hatr |
| 14:04.01 | tea|tree | mit welchen flaggen man am meisten kills gemacht hat |
| 14:04.13 | tea|tree | mit welchen man am meisten gestorben ist |
| 14:04.21 | tea|tree | etz |
| 14:04.32 | Chestal | kannst es ja gerne implementieren |
| 14:04.41 | tea|tree | forum= |
| 14:04.43 | tea|tree | ? |
| 14:04.55 | tea|tree | ich habe zu viele ideen |
| 14:04.56 | tea|tree | :D |
| 14:17.33 | tea|tree | were shall i send that idea |
| 14:17.38 | tea|tree | @ Chestal |
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| 14:36.59 | [dmp] | hi david_v |
| 14:37.23 | david_v | heya |
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| 14:38.40 | [dmp] | what do you prefer when you need to enter date on a webpage (eg your birthday) dd/mm/yyyy. 3 dropdowns, 3 inputboxes or one single? |
| 14:39.21 | david_v | as for privacy, one single. technically, three dropdowns :) |
| 14:40.12 | [dmp] | well, you outta do the same validation for both solutions :) |
| 14:40.37 | david_v | yeah but with a single box you can validate several formats |
| 14:41.02 | david_v | or when i think of it... just go with "not disclosed" option for m and d... hehe |
| 14:41.23 | [dmp] | well, sometimes you can. its hard to detect which format 4-2-2003 uses :-) |
| 14:41.32 | david_v | :) |
| 14:42.30 | tea|tree | http://www.beepworld.de/memberdateien/members24/tea_tree/-.jpg |
| 14:42.34 | tea|tree | can somebody explain me |
| 14:42.40 | tea|tree | why this happens ins bz |
| 14:42.44 | tea|tree | the names |
| 14:42.57 | tea|tree | top left |
| 14:43.38 | tea|tree | afk |
| 14:43.39 | david_v | whoa! |
| 14:46.06 | bzgirl | tea|tree: you shouldnt leave your flag like that undefended ;-) |
| 15:08.27 | tea|tree | bzgirl: i wasnt playing :P |
| 15:26.57 | tea|tree | [dmp]: the colors of the names |
| 15:27.19 | tea|tree | should only be green and red |
| 15:33.31 | david_v | tea|tree: some people saw rogue players the other day. maybe a server bug |
| 15:36.00 | tea|tree | no it was today |
| 15:36.04 | tea|tree | always on my pc |
| 15:36.09 | tea|tree | in bz always |
| 15:36.15 | david_v | hmm |
| 15:36.23 | david_v | what version are you using? |
| 15:36.26 | tea|tree | some of them blink aswell |
| 15:36.28 | tea|tree | g2 |
| 15:36.36 | david_v | same here... Windows or Linux? |
| 15:36.40 | tea|tree | win |
| 15:36.49 | david_v | but that shouldn't matter though... but you never know |
| 15:37.14 | david_v | hm. i'll do some testing on the g2 client for Windows later, i've never had any probs with the Linux client |
| 15:37.30 | tea|tree | well |
| 15:37.34 | tea|tree | i cant use linux |
| 15:37.37 | tea|tree | aint working |
| 15:37.45 | tea|tree | just blinks when i boot |
| 15:37.50 | david_v | what distro did you try? |
| 15:37.52 | tea|tree | then im in a sorta DOS mode |
| 15:37.55 | david_v | (distribution) |
| 15:38.07 | tea|tree | im a total newbie in linux |
| 15:38.12 | david_v | well, but it starts up right? |
| 15:38.18 | tea|tree | noi |
| 15:38.21 | tea|tree | no |
| 15:38.27 | david_v | then it's not much of a DOS mode hehe |
| 15:38.30 | tea|tree | it flashes a few times |
| 15:38.34 | tea|tree | 3 times |
| 15:38.36 | tea|tree | ore 3 |
| 15:38.37 | tea|tree | 4 |
| 15:38.44 | david_v | hm. did you try RedHat, Mandrake, or anything else? |
| 15:38.52 | tea|tree | oh never mind linux sucks |
| 15:38.56 | tea|tree | :P |
| 15:39.05 | david_v | i didn't hear that :) |
| 15:39.06 | tea|tree | i will get banned from bzflag now |
| 15:39.21 | david_v | i use Linux everyday in fact |
| 15:39.22 | tea|tree | propaly i will make a linux server |
| 15:39.29 | david_v | very rarely use Windows |
| 15:40.08 | david_v | so come on now, what was the Linux distribution you tried, called? :) |
| 15:40.19 | david_v | i can name a dozen if you like hehe |
| 15:41.45 | david_v | oh well |
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| 15:54.30 | learner | Howdy peoples :) |
| 15:55.00 | david_v | zzzhm? |
| 15:55.03 | david_v | ah hi |
| 15:56.02 | david_v | hmm |
| 15:57.38 | david_v | hey guys i need empathy you know :) |
| 15:57.45 | david_v | bbiab though |
| 15:58.50 | siggraph | aw, poor david :) |
| 15:59.05 | siggraph | no sleep? |
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| 16:19.55 | *** join/#bzflag RinzeWind (~chema@213.37.210.116) |
| 16:19.56 | RinzeWind | Hi |
| 16:20.07 | RinzeWind | Can you try my bzflag server and see if it works? |
| 16:20.10 | RinzeWind | chema.homelinux.org |
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| 16:32.59 | RinzeWind | Which ports do I need to open in my firewall to have a server? |
| 16:33.05 | RinzeWind | 5155 only does not seem to work |
| 16:34.02 | bzgirl | I usually open 5155 5156 |
| 16:36.30 | *** join/#bzflag Skipp (~Skipp@12-206-137-38.client.attbi.com) |
| 16:37.05 | Skipp | what is a good linux chat program that supports irc and icq, something simmilar to trillian |
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| 16:38.46 | Chestal | RinzeWind: -p and -pr port TCP, -p port UDP |
| 16:39.06 | Chestal | Skipp: I use gaim for ICQ/AIM/Yahoo, it can also do irc I guess, but I never tried |
| 16:39.26 | Skipp | is it at rpmfind.net |
| 16:39.29 | bzgirl | Skipp: gaim i belive has IM and IRC support i think |
| 16:41.22 | Skipp | thanks |
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| 16:59.56 | RinzeWind | Thx |
| 17:00.21 | RinzeWind | So, 5155 TCP and UDP, and 5156 TCP |
| 17:00.25 | RinzeWind | Is that correct? |
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| 17:20.36 | RinzeWind | How can I see which world files are available? |
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| 17:34.17 | Skipp | is there a way to unistall stuff in linux with a command |
| 17:34.30 | sussi | hi all |
| 17:34.34 | Patlabor221 | depends on your distro |
| 17:35.07 | Skipp | redhat 7 |
| 17:35.28 | Patlabor221 | the rpm command sould let you remove any rpms that are installed |
| 17:35.56 | david_v | rpm -e |
| 17:36.09 | Skipp | k |
| 17:45.41 | [dmp] | hi david |
| 17:46.10 | david_v | hm, i thought i was safe in the crowd. obviously not :) |
| 17:46.17 | david_v | well, hi, then ;) |
| 17:46.39 | [dmp] | you teammates is on d:5156 :) |
| 17:46.50 | david_v | hehe |
| 17:46.55 | david_v | i was just about to go there |
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| 18:25.03 | Skipp_ | hello |
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| 18:50.12 | Skipp_ | does the bzfs program run the server in linux? |
| 18:51.12 | Patlabor221 | that is the server, it will run a server on what ever OS you have the build for |
| 18:51.46 | Skipp_ | so if i type ./bzfs -publicaddr and all that stuff it will run a server in the command line? |
| 18:51.57 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 18:52.04 | Skipp_ | coo |
| 18:52.06 | Skipp_ | cool |
| 18:52.24 | Skipp_ | took me 3 hr but i got it finally :) |
| 18:52.50 | Skipp_ | is there a bzflag world creator for linux? |
| 18:53.18 | bzdoug | yep |
| 18:53.38 | bzdoug | well, it requieres some know how to get it to run though :) |
| 18:54.44 | Patlabor221 | has anyone other then cap ever got it to compile? |
| 18:55.00 | bzdoug | hah |
| 18:55.29 | Skipp_ | maybe i will just stick to windows to create my maps, i can barely get bzflag installed on linux |
| 18:55.56 | Patlabor221 | it has been said that the windows version of bzedit runs on linux with wine |
| 18:55.57 | Skipp_ | plus my compiler has a bunch of errors in it |
| 18:55.58 | bzdoug | well, Patlabor221's editor runs in linux |
| 18:56.36 | Skipp_ | redhat 7 doesn't support usb memmory sticks does it? |
| 18:56.55 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 18:56.58 | bzdoug | it should if the latest does |
| 18:57.00 | Patlabor221 | why are you running 7? |
| 18:57.05 | Patlabor221 | they are on 9 |
| 18:57.12 | bzdoug | its just a swift upgrade away :) |
| 18:57.27 | Skipp_ | how do i upgrade everything to 9 |
| 18:57.35 | bzdoug | get the cds |
| 18:57.39 | Skipp_ | my dad didn't want to spend more than $20 on linus |
| 18:57.42 | Skipp_ | linux |
| 18:57.48 | Patlabor221 | why spend anything |
| 18:57.53 | Patlabor221 | you can download it |
| 18:57.59 | bzdoug | linux is free, you can get cds for like 3 bucks |
| 18:58.00 | Patlabor221 | ftp install |
| 18:58.03 | Patlabor221 | get the Iso |
| 18:58.06 | Patlabor221 | burn your own |
| 18:58.09 | Patlabor221 | there are many ways |
| 18:58.32 | Skipp_ | well i am only using linux so far to run a bzflag server, but that hasn't been accomplished yet |
| 18:58.54 | Skipp_ | what site has all the redhat 9 info on it |
| 18:59.02 | Patlabor221 | www.redhat.com |
| 18:59.58 | Skipp_ | i have redhat 8.0 on my other comp |
| 19:00.24 | Skipp_ | so it is free to download redhat 9 |
| 19:00.28 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:00.34 | fiberchunks | gentoo! |
| 19:00.35 | fiberchunks | ;) |
| 19:00.39 | Patlabor221 | linux is allmost allways free |
| 19:01.41 | Skipp_ | wish i new this 2 weeks ago |
| 19:01.46 | fiberchunks | pay no attention to the fanatic behind the curtain |
| 19:02.29 | Patlabor221 | yeah unless you have 3 weeks to dedicate to the install |
| 19:02.42 | bzdoug | :) |
| 19:03.01 | fiberchunks | bah |
| 19:03.14 | fiberchunks | how many times have you tried to install debian again? |
| 19:03.21 | bzdoug | either that or you have a super fast system, then it only takes 2 days |
| 19:03.23 | Patlabor221 | 572 |
| 19:03.24 | bzdoug | :) |
| 19:03.30 | bzdoug | 42 times! |
| 19:03.35 | Patlabor221 | but at least each one only took an hour or so |
| 19:03.44 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 19:03.52 | bzdoug | tried to install? |
| 19:04.02 | Patlabor221 | I still realy wonder how much faster the compiling makes you |
| 19:04.08 | Patlabor221 | in real world useage |
| 19:04.19 | Patlabor221 | since most of the time your comp is waiting for you anyway |
| 19:04.43 | fiberchunks | for me it has nothing to do with 'faster', it has to do with complete control over my sys |
| 19:04.45 | Skipp_ | is there another place to go to download a newer linux os |
| 19:04.57 | Skipp_ | the redhat site makes you pay $60 a year |
| 19:05.00 | bzdoug | yea, like: let me install this app... *two days later* ah, here we go, its starting |
| 19:05.07 | bzdoug | Skipp_: no they dont, click mirrors |
| 19:05.15 | Patlabor221 | skipp, that's just for there RHN |
| 19:05.19 | Patlabor221 | you don't need that |
| 19:05.37 | fiberchunks | bzdoug> don't be stupid |
| 19:05.51 | Patlabor221 | but that's his ideom |
| 19:05.56 | bzdoug | doh! |
| 19:06.02 | fiberchunks | modus operandi :) |
| 19:06.45 | Skipp_ | so just download the cd numbers right? |
| 19:06.52 | Skipp_ | in their directory |
| 19:06.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:06.55 | bzdoug | its 3 cds |
| 19:06.59 | Patlabor221 | just 1 to 3 |
| 19:07.04 | Patlabor221 | you shoudn't need the sources |
| 19:07.31 | Skipp_ | yeah, ok :) |
| 19:07.34 | bzdoug | you can go ask in #redhat if you need help with redhat 9 :) |
| 19:07.59 | Skipp_ | with the knowledge i have i might need to |
| 19:08.09 | Patlabor221 | the rh9 install is rather easy |
| 19:08.17 | Patlabor221 | and the upgrade should be even easyers |
| 19:08.17 | bzdoug | yea, it is :) |
| 19:08.21 | Patlabor221 | they have a realy slick install |
| 19:08.24 | Patlabor221 | you should be fine |
| 19:08.39 | bzdoug | its odd seeing "add or remove packages" in the menu :) |
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| 19:10.49 | bzdoug | are you on dsl/cable or a dialup? |
| 19:12.15 | fiberchunks | look at the ip doug |
| 19:12.49 | Skipp | redhat is a slow site |
| 19:12.56 | bzdoug | some dialup's have that sort of systems also |
| 19:12.59 | fiberchunks | indeed, grab it from a mirror |
| 19:13.06 | Skipp | how? |
| 19:13.08 | fiberchunks | attbi? that's bband |
| 19:13.22 | bzdoug | ah, cool |
| 19:13.25 | fiberchunks | there must be a "mirrors" link or something there, i imagine? |
| 19:13.31 | bzdoug | try ftp.rutgers.edu |
| 19:13.40 | bzdoug | that used to be a fast one |
| 19:15.00 | Skipp | they have it |
| 19:15.06 | Skipp | do i want a console or x11 |
| 19:15.17 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:15.34 | Skipp | isn't x11 the graphical version |
| 19:16.14 | bzdoug | ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/redhat/linux/9/en/iso/i386/ |
| 19:16.49 | bzdoug | get shrike-i386-disc1.iso shrike-i386-disc2.iso and shrike-i386-disc3.iso |
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| 19:17.25 | bzdoug | did you get that? |
| 19:17.50 | Skipp | that is a network folder |
| 19:17.55 | Skipp | right? |
| 19:18.04 | bzdoug | yeees... |
| 19:18.09 | Patlabor221 | well doug first ask this |
| 19:18.15 | bzdoug | get shrike-i386-disc1.iso shrike-i386-disc2.iso and shrike-i386-disc3.iso |
| 19:18.18 | Skipp | 1386 |
| 19:18.18 | Patlabor221 | skipp do you have a cdrom burner? |
| 19:18.21 | Skipp | yes |
| 19:18.24 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 19:18.36 | Skipp | i would be stuck otherwise :) |
| 19:18.42 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 19:18.47 | Patlabor221 | you could do a ftp instal |
| 19:18.52 | bzdoug | do you have blank cds? :) |
| 19:18.56 | Skipp | lol |
| 19:19.01 | Skipp | about 50 i think |
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| 19:19.13 | bzgirl | heh |
| 19:19.14 | bzdoug | ah, thats cool |
| 19:19.16 | Skipp | lol |
| 19:19.22 | bzdoug | hey bzgirl |
| 19:19.29 | bzgirl | hello doug |
| 19:21.17 | Skipp | just 10 hr and 40 minutes |
| 19:21.30 | bzdoug | gee |
| 19:21.31 | Skipp | wait down to 8 |
| 19:22.19 | Skipp | c u guys later |
| 19:22.23 | bzdoug | I downloaded mine in like 3 hours a piece |
| 19:22.30 | bzdoug | cya |
| 19:22.37 | Skipp | yeah that is what mine r doing |
| 19:22.43 | Skipp | i just did them all at once |
| 19:22.50 | bzdoug | ah |
| 19:22.55 | bzdoug | not too bad |
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| 19:28.29 | sharp | hello |
| 19:28.57 | fiberchunks | there, that's done |
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| 19:29.49 | david_v | ~d |
| 19:36.28 | bzdoug | could someone give me a nameserver? |
| 19:36.42 | fiberchunks | 204.60.0.2 |
| 19:36.46 | bzdoug | thx |
| 19:36.54 | bzdoug | seems mine has gone kaput |
| 19:37.29 | bzdoug | nice ip address :) |
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| 19:41.46 | captain_proton | wow... |
| 19:41.53 | captain_proton | its amazing how difficult it is to define pybzflag |
| 19:42.27 | Patlabor221 | well noone know what "reimplemenation" means |
| 19:42.42 | captain_proton | and as i just posted, even that doesn't really describe it |
| 19:42.50 | captain_proton | since it doesn't do the same things |
| 19:42.59 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:43.10 | Patlabor221 | but it will do the same things, and even more |
| 19:43.12 | bzdoug | its short |
| 19:43.14 | Patlabor221 | and it is compatable |
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| 19:51.36 | captain_proton | ::1 is shorter =) |
| 19:52.31 | strayer | ...shorter than 127.0.0.1? |
| 19:53.52 | captain_proton | well i suppose you could write it as 0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001 |
| 19:54.32 | strayer | this looks quite better for me :) |
| 19:55.42 | strayer | btw.... ::1 does not work with windows, or? |
| 19:55.54 | captain_proton | it does if you install the stack |
| 19:56.11 | captain_proton | windows doesn't come with an v6 stack by default, but microsoft has one for download |
| 19:56.43 | strayer | hm...I heared about it...but I thought it is still 'experimental' |
| 19:56.50 | strayer | ...for Windows |
| 19:59.28 | captain_proton | probably |
| 19:59.29 | captain_proton | wooo! |
| 19:59.38 | captain_proton | amc is continuing their bruce marathon tonight |
| 20:00.48 | strayer | ?... |
| 20:01.33 | captain_proton | they're showing all the bruce lee movies |
| 20:01.50 | strayer | cool..... |
| 20:02.09 | bzgirl | strayer: any new cartoons? |
| 20:02.59 | strayer | bzgirl: no, I'm to lazy and Tea warned me not to wrote sth about himm...so I did nothing new ;) |
| 20:03.10 | bzgirl | :) |
| 20:04.06 | strayer | btw...the catroon was 'copied'...I just did the text |
| 20:04.15 | bzgirl | ahh ok |
| 20:04.19 | david_v | strayer: trying to query you |
| 20:04.40 | strayer | oh.. |
| 20:54.10 | tea|tree | what |
| 20:54.18 | tea|tree | must read |
| 20:54.46 | tea|tree | lol |
| 20:54.48 | tea|tree | the cartoon! |
| 20:54.50 | tea|tree | yes :D |
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| 21:23.51 | [dmp] | learner? |
| 21:24.03 | captain_proton | BASTARD! |
| 21:24.04 | [dmp] | ah :) |
| 21:24.07 | siggraph | :) |
| 21:24.08 | [dmp] | sorry |
| 21:24.45 | [dmp] | the bug you had fun with the other day, is not a xchat bug, but a problem with freenode dosnt follow the irc-rfc.. but xchat does. |
| 21:24.55 | siggraph | ah |
| 21:24.55 | [dmp] | does it mean anything? |
| 21:25.05 | captain_proton | siggraph: hows it going so far? |
| 21:25.16 | siggraph | great! just great.. |
| 21:26.10 | siggraph | I'm in a course on physically based modeling right now; particles, rigid body motion, constraints, etc |
| 21:26.19 | siggraph | very good course |
| 21:29.00 | siggraph | guys from pixar were the presenters for the past few hours -- some great behind-the-scenes goodies on their techniques (and hilarious behind-the-scenes stuff for stuff like Monster's inc and others) |
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| 21:30.08 | er0k | hey anyone want to have a match against TES tonight? |
| 21:30.28 | siggraph | TES? |
| 21:30.31 | tea|tree | yeah |
| 21:30.34 | er0k | The Earth Shakers |
| 21:30.37 | siggraph | ah |
| 21:30.42 | er0k | you want a match? |
| 21:30.59 | tea|tree | did i say yes |
| 21:31.00 | siggraph | I'll be in a hot tub sipping champagne, sry.. |
| 21:31.13 | er0k | tea|tree: yes |
| 21:31.15 | er0k | what time |
| 21:31.17 | tea|tree | lol |
| 21:31.18 | Patlabor221 | will all the california starlets we have out here? |
| 21:31.19 | tea|tree | no time |
| 21:31.24 | tea|tree | my teammates are dead |
| 21:31.25 | er0k | tea|tree: well thats kinda important |
| 21:31.29 | er0k | just find one teammate |
| 21:31.30 | tea|tree | Patlabor221: hello old but |
| 21:31.31 | tea|tree | bud |
| 21:31.31 | er0k | all i have are two |
| 21:31.46 | tea|tree | are u registered in the league? |
| 21:31.47 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 21:31.50 | siggraph | hehe |
| 21:31.54 | er0k | tea|tree: yes |
| 21:32.02 | tea|tree | whats your team? |
| 21:32.08 | er0k | TES |
| 21:32.30 | siggraph | tea|tree: what team are you on? |
| 21:32.31 | tea|tree | th earth shakers= |
| 21:32.35 | tea|tree | TLZ :D |
| 21:32.45 | siggraph | ah ;) |
| 21:33.40 | tea|tree | ~d |
| 21:34.01 | captain_proton | siggraph: hmm - crs presenting? =) |
| 21:34.16 | captain_proton | seeing as he's a pixar guy now |
| 21:34.27 | siggraph | I'll ask around :) |
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| 21:35.54 | er0k | hey captain_proton |
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| 21:36.42 | captain_proton | i'm sure he's at least attending |
| 21:36.49 | captain_proton | seeing as he's gone for the last 2876581 years or so |
| 21:37.08 | siggraph | heh :) |
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| 21:40.11 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): misc syntax cleanup |
| 21:40.52 | Patlabor221 | will that davidtrwobridge bot ever give up? |
| 21:41.26 | captain_proton | i doubt it |
| 21:41.44 | Patlabor221 | if it ever comes in here I am soo banning it |
| 21:41.51 | siggraph | Just checked the program, he's not listed as a speaker; so I'll have to keep an eye out for his nametag or ask some pixar guys |
| 21:56.19 | [dmp] | darn: load average: 32.63, 34.33, 31.71 |
| 22:00.00 | david_v | just had a Fortix-Fortix match. these guys are tough ;) |
| 22:01.36 | bzgirl | configure:1537:27: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory im trying to compile 1.7g2 on debian, what might that error mean? |
| 22:02.03 | david_v | wrong include paths to Xfree? |
| 22:03.30 | david_v | try /usr/X11R6/include/ , that's where i find that dir /file combination |
| 22:03.39 | Chestal | bzg: installed xlibs-dev? have a symlink /usr/include/X11? |
| 22:03.41 | david_v | replace "wrong" with "missing" |
| 22:04.18 | bzgirl | Chestal: no, i just got the OS running , forgot about xlibs |
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| 22:04.37 | david_v | Chestal: but that file seems to belong to the base xfree package |
| 22:04.57 | Chestal | dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Intrinsic.h |
| 22:05.02 | Chestal | xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Intrinsic.h |
| 22:05.11 | Chestal | on my unstable debian |
| 22:05.11 | david_v | qpkg -f /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Intrinsic.h |
| 22:05.12 | david_v | x11-base/xfree * |
| 22:05.14 | david_v | :) |
| 22:05.45 | david_v | what version of xfree do you have there? |
| 22:06.32 | Chestal | what does -f do? |
| 22:06.37 | er0k | force |
| 22:06.39 | er0k | probably |
| 22:06.41 | david_v | no |
| 22:06.45 | er0k | doesnt? |
| 22:06.49 | Chestal | Version: 4.2.1-8 |
| 22:06.52 | david_v | for finding what package that file belongs to |
| 22:06.56 | david_v | ok i have 4.3.0-r2 here |
| 22:06.58 | Chestal | that's what -S is for? |
| 22:07.08 | david_v | i guess |
| 22:07.39 | david_v | qpkg is more useful for finding deps etc though |
| 22:07.49 | Chestal | never heard of it |
| 22:07.54 | david_v | Gentoo package |
| 22:08.18 | david_v | i think it works only with that distro's portage system, though |
| 22:08.22 | Chestal | ah |
| 22:08.38 | Chestal | xfree 4.3 is not on main debian servers either |
| 22:08.50 | Chestal | 4.2.x is the lastest in unstable |
| 22:08.54 | david_v | weird |
| 22:09.15 | Chestal | I know there are more up to date sources |
| 22:09.30 | Chestal | but as unstable should be mostly stable, it's not always the newest |
| 22:09.38 | david_v | testing would probably get you 4.3.0 |
| 22:09.46 | david_v | well, would get you |
| 22:09.58 | Chestal | hmm,I don#t think so, that would be strange |
| 22:10.03 | david_v | why? |
| 22:10.05 | Chestal | unstable is more experimental than testing |
| 22:10.27 | david_v | am i confusing myself again with those terms hehe |
| 22:10.46 | Chestal | but although it is called unstable, the software in there usually works together quite well |
| 22:10.53 | david_v | yeah |
| 22:10.57 | Chestal | most common problem I run into are dependency problems, sometimes due to typos |
| 22:11.05 | david_v | Debian are quite conservative with stability |
| 22:11.29 | david_v | good thinking in one way, but i hate getting on with KDE 2 and the like :) |
| 22:11.43 | david_v | if you'd use stable branch, that is |
| 22:11.58 | bzgirl | autogen.sh: line 4: aclocal: command not found ok xlibs installed now a new error |
| 22:12.30 | david_v | install automake |
| 22:12.35 | bzgirl | ahh |
| 22:13.16 | bzgirl | 1.4,5,6 or 7? |
| 22:13.17 | Chestal | bzgirl: 1.7 should be fine |
| 22:13.23 | bzgirl | heh |
| 22:13.24 | bzgirl | ok |
| 22:13.34 | david_v | have 1.7.2 here |
| 22:13.58 | Chestal | 1.7.5 here, hurrah, I am newer this time :-) |
| 22:14.03 | david_v | hehe |
| 22:14.15 | bzgirl | 1.7.61 ;-) |
| 22:14.24 | Chestal | bah! ;-) |
| 22:14.31 | bzgirl | yaay i win |
| 22:14.31 | [dmp] | do anybody know xarg? (commandline) |
| 22:14.37 | Chestal | dmp: a little |
| 22:15.03 | david_v | i can install 1.7.5-r2 here if i want ;) the -r2 is made by Gentoo though, but still :) |
| 22:15.21 | [dmp] | I need it (the functionality) but dont have xarg (i got 250 perlscripts which is eating all resources, i want to avoid killing them one by one) |
| 22:15.27 | david_v | seems like the policies for stability vary a bit |
| 22:15.31 | tea|tree | ches? |
| 22:15.40 | david_v | xargs... reminds me, i get some weird error at bootup |
| 22:15.58 | tea|tree | can i bind numpad bouttons for teamsays in BZ? |
| 22:16.00 | david_v | xargs: environment too large for exec |
| 22:16.05 | Chestal | dmp: why don't you have it? you could use `` instead mayabe |
| 22:16.36 | david_v | backticks are nice |
| 22:17.04 | [dmp] | dont know. i cant install it now, even my bash is very slow in reponse.. backticks wont do (ps -ef| .. cut .. | sometool that can execute kill -9 for each line) |
| 22:17.38 | Chestal | and you don't have a nice killall script either? |
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| 22:18.57 | bryjen | pkill ? |
| 22:19.13 | [dmp] | yes. but dont know how to get it to kill "/bin/sh -c (cd /home/dennis/bzflag/misc; nice /usr/bin/perl ./fetcher.pl)"-tasks. |
| 22:19.14 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 22:19.43 | tea|tree | i want a voice :D |
| 22:20.27 | [dmp] | nevermind i |
| 22:20.31 | scanline | [dmp]: you could use backticks instead of xargs... |
| 22:20.33 | [dmp] | i'll start from the top :) |
| 22:21.51 | Chestal | or a bash for loop |
| 22:21.56 | [dmp] | scanline: how? ps -ef |grep .. | cut .. | `echo` didnt work |
| 22:22.16 | scanline | eh.. it would be more like: |
| 22:22.22 | scanline | kill -9 `ps whatever | foo` |
| 22:22.28 | [dmp] | doooooooooooh |
| 22:22.29 | [dmp] | :) |
| 22:24.05 | [dmp] | too focus on xarg, thanks. Now i just need to figure out what happend. |
| 22:24.37 | Chestal | [dmp]: when I click on '8 users online' on the league site, I get a PHP error. But solve your other problem first :-) |
| 22:24.57 | david_v | too many users for his overloaded script :) |
| 22:25.24 | david_v | the site is rather slow right now though |
| 22:25.52 | [dmp] | Chestal: its most likly sf mysql database that got problems. i see it sometimes when the site runs slowly. |
| 22:26.40 | Chestal | hmm, don't think so this time |
| 22:26.43 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (clothtest.py): Whitespace tweak |
| 22:26.50 | [dmp] | Chestal: are you running a newer version of bzfs on ducati:5156? |
| 22:27.09 | Chestal | dmp: no, it's 1.7g2 basically |
| 22:27.34 | Chestal | it identifies itself as 1.7g3 but I think the code is identical |
| 22:27.57 | david_v | that could happen with CVS source maybe? |
| 22:29.19 | [dmp] | Man, strayer complains about this online-thingy too :) |
| 22:30.02 | david_v | hehe |
| 22:31.11 | Chestal | good night |
| 22:31.25 | [dmp] | cu |
| 22:32.04 | david_v | night |
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| 22:32.27 | [dmp] | great.. now everythings seems to run nicly.. and i have no idea why :( |
| 22:36.19 | [dmp] | and the same goes for online.. it works again, and i didnt touch it yet :) |
| 22:43.31 | tea|tree | ~ |
| 22:43.33 | tea|tree | ~d |
| 22:43.58 | tea|tree | zaaah |
| 22:44.06 | tea|tree | Chestal: du da |
| 22:52.26 | tea|tree | im going to bed |
| 22:54.54 | [dmp] | nite tea |
| 23:09.50 | Patlabor221 | this sucks, I just found a 40 gig drive in a machine, and I have no recolection of ever geting the drive |
| 23:10.05 | scanline | free disk! |
| 23:10.32 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:10.34 | Patlabor221 | basicly |
| 23:13.08 | Patlabor221 | I was lookin for a 30 |
| 23:13.08 | david_v | hehe |
| 23:13.14 | Patlabor221 | but found a 40 and the 30 |
| 23:15.15 | Patlabor221 | found 2 10's and a 6 too....ooo those are usefull |
| 23:15.34 | david_v | hehe |
| 23:15.52 | david_v | i have two 80's but have yet to find out what to do with one of them... it's placed on an older machine |
| 23:16.04 | david_v | it's missing a cd drive, even :) |
| 23:16.36 | david_v | not because it's old but because there's none |
| 23:17.26 | david_v | it's connected to the Internet via... parallell port :D |
| 23:17.55 | david_v | *parallel |
| 23:18.54 | Patlabor221 | good lord, put a nic in that thing |
| 23:19.07 | david_v | why? it works fine :D |
| 23:19.09 | Patlabor221 | even my p80 witha GF2 was on 100 base t |
| 23:19.14 | david_v | hehe |
| 23:19.32 | david_v | it was mainly for fun that i tried out this solution on this comp |
| 23:19.44 | david_v | but also for the fact that i didn't have money at that time for getting a hub, cable and a nic |
| 23:19.46 | david_v | ironic but true |
| 23:21.59 | Patlabor221 | do I have to tell linux to scan for new USB devices? |
| 23:22.06 | Patlabor221 | like webcams? |
| 23:22.15 | david_v | i have no experience of USB in Linux, unfortunately |
| 23:24.40 | david_v | the day i get any USB equipment, well, i could try something... but right now i have nothing... |
| 23:25.25 | david_v | try http://www.linux-usb.org/ anyway |
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| 23:27.44 | david_v | seems like there's a kind of "hotplug" function which should setup your devices automatically |
| 23:30.07 | Patlabor221 | one would think |
| 23:30.15 | david_v | at least it says so :) |
| 23:30.29 | Patlabor221 | it seems the cam has a se401 chipset and that is suposed to be supported by kernels 2.4 and later |
| 23:32.21 | david_v | it's listed there alright |
| 23:33.11 | david_v | i feel a bit lagging... i haven't even got to try a USB keyboard on my computers :) |
| 23:33.48 | Tupone | Patlabor221: have you seen the kernel log. It must say if it recognize a cam |
| 23:34.05 | Patlabor221 | it wasn't pluged in when I last booted |
| 23:34.29 | Tupone | It recognize on the fly! Just give the command dmesg |
| 23:35.19 | Patlabor221 | yeah says it found it |
| 23:37.08 | Patlabor221 | guess I just have to find something to use it to take a picture |
| 23:37.30 | Tupone | What distro? |
| 23:37.37 | Patlabor221 | redhat 9 |
| 23:39.04 | Tupone | I use that, it's italian. If you use gnome you must select the Hat, then Graphics, and then Digital Camera Tool |
| 23:39.22 | Tupone | I suppose :) |
| 23:40.02 | Patlabor221 | that seems more for digital still cameras |
| 23:40.24 | Tupone | Yeah,. On Internet ... videoconference |
| 23:40.48 | Patlabor221 | dont' have that |
| 23:41.16 | Tupone | DO you have Internet tag? |
| 23:41.24 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:41.32 | Patlabor221 | no vid conf in it tho |
| 23:42.14 | Tupone | I got More application, Mozilla, Evolution and then Videoconference |
| 23:42.23 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 23:42.54 | Patlabor221 | I probably didn't install it |
| 23:43.06 | Tupone | Install gnomemeeting-0.96.0-4.src.rpm |
| 23:43.15 | Tupone | Install gnomemeeting |
| 23:43.25 | Tupone | No the src one :) |
| 23:43.36 | Tupone | It's on the distro |
| 23:43.38 | david_v | source is always better ;) |
| 23:46.57 | david_v | good night and good luck with the cam |
