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| 01:11.15 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (7 files in 2 dirs): Infrastructure to support cube environment maps |
| 01:13.04 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (2 files in 2 dirs): Remove debug code |
| 01:20.13 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (2 files in 2 dirs): Don't blend cube mapped pyramids |
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| 01:25.33 | MrApathyCream | wow, do i see a bzflag checkin by the fist? |
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| 01:28.08 | fiberchunks | yah, a itty bitty bug |
| 01:29.50 | scanline | mornin MrApathyCream |
| 01:30.56 | MrApathyCream | mornin |
| 01:31.01 | MrApathyCream | mornin? |
| 01:31.05 | scanline | somewhere |
| 01:31.12 | MrApathyCream | yah, not here ;) |
| 01:37.11 | MrApathyCream | anybody understand this new KeyManager cruft? |
| 01:42.47 | MrApathyCream | --guess not-- |
| 01:44.45 | fiberchunks | it is one of the great mysteries of the universe :\ |
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| 01:45.53 | MrApathyCream | it's one of those so slick is overy confusing things |
| 01:46.11 | MrApathyCream | i think i figured it my prob out. |
| 01:46.13 | MrApathyCream | case |
| 01:46.27 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:47.13 | fiberchunks | scanline> knowing that I know little of code, and less of pygame -- is there an explicit call I could slap in there to disable sound? |
| 01:47.29 | scanline | I think there's a way to init subsystems individually |
| 01:47.32 | scanline | lemme check on that... |
| 01:47.37 | fiberchunks | thank you |
| 01:50.15 | fiberchunks | wow - the water pyramids, and the regular pyramids look amazing |
| 01:50.41 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (3 files): Initialize video and fonts manually rather than using pygame.init(), to avoid initializing things we don't need yet like sound |
| 01:50.48 | scanline | thanks. I'm working on adding semi-dynamic environment mapping :) |
| 01:51.36 | scanline | ok, that should do it |
| 01:51.49 | scanline | the pygame.init() function I was calling just initialized everything :) |
| 01:51.52 | fiberchunks | thanks much |
| 01:51.58 | scanline | now it initializes the subsystems it needs individually |
| 01:52.15 | Michaelh | tis the moment of death -- the first compile |
| 01:52.17 | fiberchunks | a nice feature -- does this exist? to rotate the camera, in place, around the x axis |
| 01:53.08 | scanline | that's what moving the mouse vertically while holding the right button does |
| 01:53.25 | scanline | that's the X and Y axes in camera space |
| 01:53.31 | scanline | no way to roll the camera yet |
| 01:54.19 | fiberchunks | ah, perhaps that's what I mean -- I mean just rotating it as if an x axis is longitudinal throught the camera, and rotation of the camera occurs that way |
| 01:54.28 | fiberchunks | is that 'rolling' ? |
| 01:55.02 | fiberchunks | like now, when I right-click and move, there is a definite elevation change |
| 01:55.07 | scanline | hm, not sure if I understand what you mean. Rotating along the axis perpendicular to the screen? |
| 01:55.11 | scanline | ohh, that |
| 01:55.16 | scanline | zoom in all the way |
| 01:55.29 | fiberchunks | just noticed that -- so rotation is dependent on zoom |
| 01:55.40 | scanline | well, it's not that |
| 01:55.57 | scanline | the zoom is the distance between the camera and the point it rotates around |
| 01:56.09 | scanline | so if that distance is close to zero, it's more of a 1st person view |
| 01:56.14 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:56.38 | fiberchunks | be nice if I could ctrl-shift click and rotate in place - makes it easier to target specific items |
| 01:57.16 | scanline | also needs a crosshair or something to show the camera's focus |
| 01:57.19 | fiberchunks | yah |
| 01:57.27 | scanline | but what it really needs is a few different navigation modes |
| 01:57.34 | scanline | or even *gasp* a way to actually drive a tank |
| 01:57.38 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:58.10 | fiberchunks | please take into consideration us lowly keyboard users when you decide on tank movement :) |
| 01:58.23 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:58.29 | scanline | i'm sure it will be just like bzflag's tank movement |
| 01:58.38 | fiberchunks | aieeeeee |
| 01:58.53 | scanline | that's bad? |
| 01:58.57 | scanline | bzflag has a keyboard mode thingy... |
| 01:59.30 | fiberchunks | yah, but the bindings are horrifically messed up -- for example, when I initiate motion, the message cycling keys and all that jazz don't work :\ |
| 01:59.36 | scanline | oh |
| 01:59.40 | fiberchunks | I wrote a bug on it a while ago |
| 01:59.41 | scanline | well that would be a bug :) |
| 01:59.46 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 02:00.07 | scanline | already demonstrated that with the protocol :) |
| 02:00.07 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 02:00.34 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:00.42 | scanline | well, it will need a pretty flexible input system |
| 02:00.58 | fiberchunks | pygame provides you with most of that already, yes? |
| 02:00.59 | scanline | there's keyboard, mouse, joystick, dual-joystick, motion tracking glove... |
| 02:01.23 | scanline | well, pygame provides nice platform independent I/O stuff. I'll still need a good system for setting up bindings |
| 02:01.28 | scanline | still have a good bit of that though |
| 02:01.30 | scanline | er |
| 02:01.33 | scanline | s/still/already/ |
| 02:01.39 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 02:01.59 | scanline | as it is, ThreeDContro.py has pretty high level bindings: |
| 02:02.07 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.07 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.07 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.18 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.18 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.18 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.21 | scanline | that sort of thing |
| 02:03.03 | fiberchunks | so it hooks into itself? or does .observe attach it to a listener? |
| 02:03.17 | fiberchunks | or something (I'm still trying to wrap my noodle around all the terminology) |
| 02:03.29 | scanline | well, it's mostly a weird little system I put together rather than python's fault |
| 02:03.46 | scanline | KeyPress, MouseWheel, and KeyAxis are actually subclasses of this Event class I wrote for pybzflag |
| 02:04.02 | scanline | self.bind is a wrapper that instantiates that event with the proper parameters |
| 02:04.14 | scanline | then that calls the observe method of the event instance to attach a handler |
| 02:04.51 | fiberchunks | neat |
| 02:05.06 | fiberchunks | all in one line o code :) |
| 02:05.09 | scanline | yip |
| 02:05.17 | fiberchunks | (well, excepting the classes and subclasses) |
| 02:05.18 | scanline | should be easy to slap some sort of config file frontend on all that |
| 02:06.33 | fiberchunks | there's a teleporter in the middle of nowhere on the gerbil map too |
| 02:06.39 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:07.24 | fiberchunks | how does one handle keypresses + mouse buttons? with OR ? |
| 02:07.33 | fiberchunks | simultaneous, that is |
| 02:07.45 | scanline | there's a Modifiers class that handles that |
| 02:08.11 | fiberchunks | well, but does that apply strictly to ctrl, alt, and shift, or also to qwerty letters as well? |
| 02:08.17 | fiberchunks | s/letters/keys |
| 02:08.24 | scanline | right now you have to pass that to MouseDrag and it tests the modifiers... should really fix that so they're separate and you can trigger on any combination of events |
| 02:08.52 | scanline | that only does actual modifier keys. will need a new class to handle normal keys in combination with the mouse if that's necessary |
| 02:08.58 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 02:18.47 | Michaelh | aeiiiiiiiiiiiiiihaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggg |
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| 02:53.36 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: keymanager is not cruft! |
| 02:56.48 | Michaelh | geez vc++ get obtuse when it encounters stl errors |
| 02:57.35 | Michaelh | spits out like 5 lines of gibberish...... |
| 02:58.42 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (14 files in 2 dirs): Added rendering engine support for dynamic textures |
| 02:59.42 | Michaelh | mommy said that kind of programming was dirty :) |
| 03:00.23 | scanline | bah |
| 03:00.28 | Michaelh | bahhhhhhhhhhh |
| 03:00.57 | Michaelh | woohoo |
| 03:00.57 | Michaelh | menus.obj : error LNK2005: "public: void __thiscall ServerCache::insert(class std::basic_string<char,struct std::char_traits<char>,class std::allocator<char> >,class ServerItem &)" (?insert@ServerCache@@QAEXV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$ |
| 03:00.57 | Michaelh | allocator@D@2@@std@@AAVServerItem@@@Z) already defined in bzflag.obj |
| 03:02.13 | captain_proton | scary |
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| 03:05.42 | Michaelh | I suppose defining an entire class in a header file might do that..... |
| 03:07.31 | Michaelh | So what exactly is this python stuff going in the end? Are we going to wind up with an entire 2nd duplicate code base |
| 03:07.55 | Michaelh | I guess it's easier to code a python GUI naturally ..... |
| 03:08.58 | scanline | guess it just depends on what people feel like working on |
| 03:09.04 | scanline | I'm just doing it for fun, mostly as an experiment |
| 03:09.14 | scanline | but it might have the potential to go somewhere |
| 03:09.15 | Michaelh | I suppose that is nifty enough |
| 03:09.40 | Michaelh | Can it actually run a client fast enough? |
| 03:09.58 | scanline | I don't have a full client written, but what is written so far runs fast enough |
| 03:10.01 | Michaelh | as a full fledged client? |
| 03:10.41 | Michaelh | hmmm... too many freaking languages out there....... |
| 03:10.47 | Michaelh | :) |
| 03:10.55 | scanline | heh |
| 03:11.08 | Michaelh | They keep introducing new ones too |
| 03:11.13 | scanline | if you think there are too many languages it just means you don't know enough of them :) |
| 03:11.40 | scanline | sure there are a lot of languages that are pretty pointless.. like the 10 billion dialects of BASIC |
| 03:12.04 | scanline | but there are a lot of langauges that will give you a fresh new outlook on programming |
| 03:14.40 | Michaelh | woohoo it compiled |
| 03:15.20 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 03:15.28 | scanline | one thing that seems a bit likely is that someone will write a C++ version of this new bzflag graphics engine |
| 03:15.59 | captain_proton | i don't even have GL_NV_fragment_program in my gl headers |
| 03:18.50 | captain_proton | aha, glext.h is deprecated |
| 03:20.59 | Michaelh | did someone hard code the list server somewhere? |
| 03:21.31 | Michaelh | it's ignoring the value in the .bzc file |
| 03:22.04 | Michaelh | or i have the wrong dir :) |
| 03:22.12 | captain_proton | or you have the wrong config file ;) |
| 03:22.25 | captain_proton | this is for 1.9? |
| 03:22.55 | Michaelh | yes |
| 03:23.00 | captain_proton | what config file are you editing? |
| 03:23.44 | Michaelh | so which one is it bzflag.bzc19 or bzflag19.bzc :) |
| 03:23.48 | captain_proton | bzflag19.bzc |
| 03:23.52 | captain_proton | bzc19 is old |
| 03:24.15 | Michaelh | woah |
| 03:24.53 | Michaelh | no list server ? |
| 03:25.16 | captain_proton | it doesn't write default values to the config |
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| 03:26.23 | Michaelh | ah so..... |
| 03:29.12 | Michaelh | I have separated the server cache thingee... haven't stuck it in separate files yet |
| 03:30.53 | Michaelh | Can diff handle new files? It's kind of lame that it can;t |
| 03:31.05 | captain_proton | it can, but not through cvs |
| 03:31.10 | captain_proton | do a diff -Nru on two trees |
| 03:34.44 | Michaelh | so I'd need two copies... |
| 03:35.17 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 03:38.10 | Michaelh | has anything like PingPacket increased in size? |
| 03:38.48 | captain_proton | i don't think so... |
| 03:48.43 | MrApathyCream | other packets have grown |
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| 03:51.34 | captain_proton | AHA! |
| 03:51.41 | captain_proton | needed to set __GL_NV30_EMULATE |
| 03:52.06 | scanline | won't that be really slow on a GF3? |
| 03:52.06 | captain_proton | then suddenly GL_ARB_fragment_program appears |
| 03:52.29 | captain_proton | probably a bit slow |
| 03:52.44 | captain_proton | i should eventually consider upgrading |
| 03:55.53 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 03:55.55 | captain_proton | no bindings :( |
| 03:58.25 | Michaelh | which stupid thing |
| 03:59.26 | Patlabor221 | that what triped fiber |
| 04:02.22 | fiberchunks | hrm? |
| 04:02.49 | fiberchunks | dervish, spiff, chik, you name it -- doesn't matter -- I'm just tired of it -- so I figured I'd post a PSA |
| 04:02.51 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 04:05.13 | fiberchunks | alrighty, don't laugh -- http://fiberchunks.bakadigital.com/images/wineglass.jpg |
| 04:06.01 | fiberchunks | .jpeg -- not .jpg |
| 04:06.09 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:06.27 | fiberchunks | :) whee! |
| 04:07.02 | fiberchunks | the top is too small for the bottom, I may scale that |
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| 04:14.58 | Michaelh | o k .. so I can't pick up flags in my localhost server..... |
| 04:16.12 | MrApathyCream | do you have the latest server code? |
| 04:16.33 | MrApathyCream | server was bsuted yesterday |
| 04:19.07 | Michaelh | oops me thinks not :) |
| 04:25.38 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (8 files in 2 dirs): AutoPilot from 1.8 |
| 04:26.19 | learner | neva! |
| 04:32.58 | Michaelh | the bogus drop bad flag thing is some sort of bug |
| 04:33.11 | Michaelh | I have -st 10 and it is way high |
| 04:33.13 | Michaelh | still |
| 04:33.32 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 04:33.45 | MrApathyCream | looking... |
| 04:34.24 | Michaelh | i might suspect some packing issue :) |
| 04:34.50 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): Rogues don't get team grab messages.. as silly as it is to even exist in a ctf game |
| 04:40.35 | MrApathyCream | world->linearAcceleration and world->angularAcceleration seem messed up to... they proceed it |
| 04:42.17 | MrApathyCream | hmmm |
| 04:42.18 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.24 | MrApathyCream | this is new it would appear |
| 04:42.28 | MrApathyCream | and not represented on client |
| 04:43.37 | Michaelh | so it's sending stuff that the client doesn't even know is there.... |
| 04:43.37 | Michaelh | ? |
| 04:43.59 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 04:44.01 | MrApathyCream | fixing |
| 04:44.02 | Michaelh | I suppose the client needs that stuff implemented :) |
| 04:47.34 | Michaelh | do the libraries like net, common etc.. need debug files copied to debug routines in them too? |
| 04:50.31 | MrApathyCream | huh? |
| 04:51.14 | MrApathyCream | those guys are all statically linked |
| 04:51.38 | MrApathyCream | so all the debug info is in bzflag.pdb |
| 04:55.18 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, perhaps i'm wrong. |
| 04:57.09 | MrApathyCream | not sure what is up with the packet |
| 04:57.19 | MrApathyCream | it just goes goofy after numFlags |
| 05:01.26 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): fixed subtle big due to protocol change in simple filter |
| 05:19.38 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (6 files in 2 dirs): Seeing a few small signs of life out of the new CubeMap module |
| 05:25.37 | captain_proton | bah |
| 05:25.40 | captain_proton | emulation mode sucks |
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| 05:26.20 | Michaelh | i think pingpacket has somehow gained 7 or 8 bytes |
| 05:26.55 | scanline | captain_proton: slow, broken, or both? |
| 05:27.02 | captain_proton | slow |
| 05:27.36 | scanline | what do you expect from running fragment programs in software? :) |
| 05:28.23 | captain_proton | ugh, graphics cards are so expensive =/ |
| 05:28.37 | scanline | well, the good ones are |
| 05:28.51 | scanline | my brother got a GeForce FX 5200 for around $100 I think |
| 05:29.16 | captain_proton | the 5200 isn't worth it |
| 05:29.20 | captain_proton | 5600 is about 150, it looks |
| 05:29.33 | scanline | that's pretty good |
| 05:32.22 | captain_proton | i should just wait |
| 05:32.36 | captain_proton | and in a few weeks, with any luck, i'll be able to do all the fragment programs i want |
| 05:33.19 | scanline | so what's the level of support the GF3 has? only vertex programs? |
| 05:33.41 | captain_proton | its got ARB_vertex_program |
| 05:33.53 | captain_proton | NV_vertex_program & NV_vertex_program1_1 |
| 05:34.18 | captain_proton | i'm not sure what extension its using for the fragment shader |
| 05:35.30 | captain_proton | maybe NV_register_combiner |
| 05:40.49 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:41.13 | scanline | this is a rather interesting-looking bug :) |
| 05:42.15 | captain_proton | oh? |
| 05:42.37 | scanline | try running worldviewer on random |
| 05:42.57 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Drawable (Pyramid.py): What a cute bug |
| 05:45.14 | scanline | ooh, I should try this with the monkey |
| 05:45.45 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:45.50 | captain_proton | your cubemap is a bit weird |
| 05:46.06 | scanline | I'm not sure whether it's the map itself or the texture coordinate generation |
| 05:46.37 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:47.11 | scanline | I just tried it with the monkey instead of the sphere, and it looks like it's using viewport coordinates as cube map texture coords |
| 05:47.13 | scanline | odd.. |
| 05:47.32 | fiberchunks | scan, what's the random switch for worldviewer? |
| 05:47.43 | scanline | use 'random' as the world nam |
| 05:47.45 | scanline | er, name |
| 05:47.46 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:48.08 | scanline | or even better, try using 'help' as the world name |
| 05:49.05 | captain_proton | scanline: you know, your whole world definition format is pretty sick |
| 05:49.17 | scanline | mmyep |
| 05:54.22 | Michaelh | someone lost 7 bytes in playerID |
| 05:54.42 | Michaelh | PlayerIdPLen is 1, but there's 8 bytes in the packed length |
| 05:57.38 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (2 files in 2 dirs): Unbreak teleporters and pointy pyramids |
| 06:03.55 | CIA | 03michaelh20 * 12bzflag/include (Address.h): Player/Server ID packed length is 8 not 1 |
| 06:03.56 | captain_proton | umm |
| 06:03.56 | captain_proton | Michaelh: playerid is 1 byte |
| 06:03.56 | Michaelh | hmm |
| 06:03.56 | scanline | hmmm |
| 06:03.56 | Michaelh | but isn't PlayerIDPLen supposed to be the packed length of the player ID ? |
| 06:03.56 | captain_proton | Michaelh: perhaps thats the serverid thats being packed? |
| 06:03.56 | captain_proton | everywhere else playerid is a ubyte |
| 06:04.09 | Michaelh | I think the length of the ping packet is wrong however..... |
| 06:05.24 | Michaelh | pingpacket::packetSize |
| 06:05.36 | Michaelh | is using 1 as the length of serverId |
| 06:05.51 | Michaelh | and using 8 instead fixes some fubared stuff |
| 06:06.38 | Michaelh | the client reads the ping packet correctly, sees the right time outs and bad flag drop times |
| 06:06.50 | captain_proton | so it should have a ServerIDPLen |
| 06:07.00 | captain_proton | but that is -not- the playerid anymore |
| 06:07.00 | Michaelh | Can do.... |
| 06:07.07 | Michaelh | heh |
| 06:17.29 | CIA | 03michaelh20 * 12bzflag/src/net (Ping.cxx): Added serverIdPLen |
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| 06:19.51 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (4 files in 2 dirs): Wow, it looks a lot better when lighting works |
| 06:20.27 | Michaelh | I hope I got that right :) |
| 06:20.36 | captain_proton | hmm scanline |
| 06:20.41 | captain_proton | i just enlocated a really nifty paper |
| 06:20.49 | Michaelh | enlocated huh |
| 06:20.56 | captain_proton | enlocated! |
| 06:21.08 | scanline | whoa... some of these editor widgets are reflecting in the pyramids |
| 06:21.35 | scanline | nifty you say... |
| 06:21.41 | captain_proton | scanline: your cube map is geeked |
| 06:21.46 | captain_proton | http://www.cs.queensu.ca/home/jstewart/850/papers/mech96visual.pdf |
| 06:22.01 | scanline | captain_proton: I know the cube map is completely wrong, I just wanted to fix lighting first |
| 06:24.32 | captain_proton | the light-control stuff is really cool |
| 06:26.26 | scanline | haha |
| 06:26.38 | scanline | kind of funny that they did the plants and the environment as separate processes |
| 06:26.46 | captain_proton | indeed =) |
| 06:27.12 | captain_proton | sorta makes sense though |
| 06:27.25 | scanline | yep.. especially with their scalability thingy |
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| 06:45.21 | scanline | argh |
| 06:45.34 | scanline | well, now I know the texture coordinate generation is messed up somehow |
| 06:46.05 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (2 files in 2 dirs): cube map debug code |
| 06:46.25 | scanline | I have each face of the cube map painted a different solid color, and I'm generating texture coordinates with GL_NORMAL_MAP_EXT |
| 06:47.00 | scanline | so the colors should stay still on the surface of the sphere.. instead they move around when I move the camera, in kind of a strange way |
| 06:47.47 | Michaelh | where are the logs for this channel? |
| 06:52.10 | captain_proton | woo |
| 06:52.14 | captain_proton | the skyrocket screensaver is cool |
| 06:54.53 | captain_proton | beautiful abuse of particle systems |
| 06:56.42 | Michaelh | the bad flag time out is still messed up |
| 06:56.58 | Michaelh | it stays around 3700 regardless of what the server says it should be |
| 07:00.53 | Michaelh | i suppose the world size is wrong too |
| 07:01.36 | scanline | world size wrong? |
| 07:01.57 | Michaelh | (guess) |
| 07:02.19 | captain_proton | on what basis are you guessing? :P |
| 07:02.47 | Michaelh | looking at some random collection of #s that mysteriously add up to the world database size? |
| 07:03.21 | scanline | it's been wrong a few times, but I think I've fixed it |
| 07:03.37 | Michaelh | *something* is off I think somewhere |
| 07:03.40 | scanline | pybzflag will give you an exception right away if the world it downloads isn't just right |
| 07:03.52 | captain_proton | WorldInfo::packDatabase ? |
| 07:04.05 | Michaelh | something like that |
| 07:04.29 | Michaelh | it has the right values more or less when it is packing them |
| 07:04.59 | scanline | could you be a little more specific? |
| 07:05.02 | captain_proton | ... more or less? |
| 07:05.10 | captain_proton | either its correct or its not |
| 07:05.32 | scanline | if there's even one byte of garbage there, observer.py will choke |
| 07:05.39 | Michaelh | I was looking more at static bool defineworld() |
| 07:05.44 | scanline | and.. it works! |
| 07:06.29 | captain_proton | hm |
| 07:06.36 | Michaelh | but the bad flag drop? |
| 07:06.51 | captain_proton | i see a possible bug with ctf worlds that have fewer than 4 team bases |
| 07:07.04 | scanline | I'm just saying that there's nothing wrong with the world DB size, at least on the servers i've used recently |
| 07:07.21 | captain_proton | Michaelh: it could be a packing order issue rather than a size issue? |
| 07:09.34 | Michaelh | I'm just trying to find whatever it is.. it's annoying |
| 07:10.10 | scanline | tried using ethereal or traceproxy on it? |
| 07:11.50 | Michaelh | I'm not so sophisticated :) |
| 07:12.11 | scanline | ethereal will give you a hex dump of all the data between client and server |
| 07:12.29 | scanline | traceproxy will give it to you all decoded and human-readable, but it's kind of experimental still |
| 07:12.36 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): added check for attempts to add duplicate filter entries |
| 07:20.08 | Michaelh | geez -- how much time will we spend on that thing -- :) |
| 07:20.41 | learner | as long as it takes |
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| 07:23.32 | captain_proton | http://yablo.bigevilcorp.com/hkzkt10.wmv |
| 07:25.36 | scanline | is this a game show? :) |
| 07:25.53 | captain_proton | i'm not sure |
| 07:26.36 | scanline | wow |
| 07:27.12 | captain_proton | amazing, isn't it? |
| 07:27.19 | scanline | yep |
| 07:27.29 | learner | fscking awesome and hilarious :) |
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| 07:44.52 | captain_proton | erg! |
| 07:44.54 | captain_proton | this is really bizzare |
| 07:54.16 | captain_proton | grr |
| 07:54.23 | captain_proton | the value is correct when it gets packed |
| 07:54.28 | captain_proton | and over the wire, it magically changes |
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| 08:20.20 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): |
| 08:20.20 | CIA | add the shake time weirdness. it appears that everything is working as it |
| 08:20.21 | CIA | should, yet for some reason a bogus value gets sent over the wire. |
| 08:20.21 | CIA | i'm so confused |
| 08:21.05 | scanline | g'night |
| 08:21.08 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (4 files in 2 dirs): It finally appears to be generating a correct cube map, but the texture coordinate generation still appears to be taking place in the wrong coordinate system |
| 08:22.31 | captain_proton | scanline: looks like the texcoords are upside-down? |
| 08:22.54 | scanline | more than just that.. it seems to be doing it in eye coordinates instead of object coordinates |
| 08:23.27 | captain_proton | whoops |
| 08:23.30 | captain_proton | oh well, naptime |
| 08:41.59 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): fixed aggressive filter protocol change |
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| 09:57.45 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (3 files in 2 dirs): Basic cube mapping mostly works |
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| 15:07.40 | drinian | ~xmission |
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| 15:36.53 | david_v | hmm... no air conditioning huh? is it him or the server that has that problem? :) |
| 15:37.37 | bryjen | Server rooms get very warm without A/C. And hot servers are not happy servers ;) |
| 15:37.52 | david_v | ah yes forgot that, got to keep 'em happy :) |
| 15:39.02 | [TeA|TrEE] | hu |
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| 16:00.43 | learner | crazy I tell you .. CRAZY! |
| 16:01.23 | Quol_AtWork | I agree Learner :) |
| 16:01.26 | Quol_AtWork | how R ya? |
| 16:01.33 | learner | going good |
| 16:01.45 | captain_proton | its amazing how often they need to rearrange their network |
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| 16:02.26 | learner | seems like we get notified of every single router reboot, switch reconfig, etc |
| 16:03.21 | Quol_AtWork | dmwaters sent out a global notification about that - did you see it? |
| 16:03.53 | david_v | yes... |
| 16:04.16 | bryjen | one of the US servers had an A/C failure |
| 16:04.39 | Quol_AtWork | ahh - that's what that was about... |
| 16:04.42 | bryjen | errrr, that's Air Conditioning, not Alternating Current ;) |
| 16:04.49 | captain_proton | it seems like they should rearrange their network so the only hubs are the most reliable servers |
| 16:05.23 | learner | don't do it! |
| 16:05.29 | captain_proton | i have to :( |
| 16:05.40 | learner | don't do it! |
| 16:05.52 | learner | hehe |
| 16:05.54 | Quol_AtWork | I am loosing the battle as I am on IRC after all :) |
| 16:06.28 | Quol_AtWork | learner: did you get bzfs up and running in a chroot jail yet? |
| 16:06.36 | bryjen | grrr. Could somebody take a big hammer to the wiki ? I'm trying to copy the /commands stuff from the bzfs man page, and its having fits. |
| 16:06.50 | learner | ...... not yet, been trying to finish the word filter first |
| 16:07.02 | learner | it *is* next on my todo list, though |
| 16:07.12 | Quol_AtWork | ahhh - just wondering...no problem |
| 16:07.33 | Quol_AtWork | bryjen: I know how you feel - sometimes it is too "smart" |
| 16:08.32 | Quol_AtWork | I have switched to irssi here at work for my IRC client - and so far I like it - what clients to you guys use? |
| 16:09.10 | david_v | xchat! :) |
| 16:09.25 | learner | irssi at work :) |
| 16:09.58 | learner | it's just gets a pain when I'm being "really productive" and I have 7 chat sessions going |
| 16:10.03 | learner | hitting meta-7 is a pain |
| 16:10.07 | david_v | hehehe |
| 16:10.24 | Quol_AtWork | ya - I like irssi so much more than that crappy BitchX junk |
| 16:18.51 | dheckaman | xchat! |
| 16:19.04 | learner | shush |
| 16:19.22 | learner | :) |
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| 16:20.10 | learner | xchat is nice .. as long as you have and use .. X |
| 16:20.58 | scanline | the UI and backend in xchat are actually pretty separate |
| 16:21.08 | Quol_AtWork | ya - I have no X access at work - in fact we don't allow IRC from work at all |
| 16:21.43 | Quol_AtWork | have to run irssi within an SSH session :) |
| 16:21.52 | learner | same :) |
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| 16:25.15 | Quol_AtWork | maybe in a few years that will be possible though - through some star-trek technology... |
| 16:25.43 | Quol_AtWork | did you hear that (I think it was MIT) figured out a way to transfer the sense of touch through the net.. |
| 16:26.58 | learner | hehe, crazy-talk I tell you .. |
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| 16:30.22 | guest818 | peek-a-boo |
| 16:30.25 | guest818 | :) |
| 16:31.00 | guest818 | hello? |
| 16:31.07 | learner | hello |
| 16:31.12 | Quol_AtWork | hello guest818 |
| 16:31.20 | guest818 | hi |
| 16:31.30 | guest818 | guess who |
| 16:31.39 | learner | ip is familiar |
| 16:31.53 | guest818 | heehe |
| 16:32.03 | guest818 | ;) |
| 16:32.05 | guest818 | tis mee |
| 16:32.19 | learner | tis you indeed |
| 16:32.31 | guest818 | i tryin out strayers irc web link thingie |
| 16:32.52 | guest818 | it sign mee on as guest |
| 16:33.05 | learner | OOooohhhh.. :) |
| 16:33.10 | learner | hi chika :) |
| 16:33.14 | JBDiGriz | Try the /nick command |
| 16:33.20 | guest818 | hi L |
| 16:33.22 | guest818 | o okies |
| 16:33.35 | Chikorita | o neat |
| 16:33.40 | Chikorita | thnx JB |
| 16:33.48 | JBDiGriz | No problem |
| 16:33.50 | Chikorita | lol |
| 16:34.07 | Chikorita | heh wb learner |
| 16:34.21 | JBDiGriz | learner: Taking a day off? |
| 16:34.31 | learner | nah, just being really late |
| 16:34.43 | learner | trying to finish up a bit of code on the word filter |
| 16:35.04 | JBDiGriz | At this point, blow the day and enjoy yourself! |
| 16:35.21 | learner | heh, I'm only an hour or two later than usual :) |
| 16:36.32 | JBDiGriz | I think you're getting ready to move to the left coast! ;-) |
| 16:36.48 | learner | I'm just about there :) |
| 16:38.28 | JBDiGriz | learner: Did you see the sample code for grabbing the frame buffer? |
| 16:39.28 | learner | the one that came out yesterday? |
| 16:40.57 | JBDiGriz | That's the one, I compiled the sample, and now I'm thinking of how to use it on the client side. |
| 16:41.25 | learner | jb, there's an even better one already on the website from some time ago |
| 16:41.39 | learner | shows vbl sync'ing and windowed/fullscreen |
| 16:42.02 | JBDiGriz | The last one we tried messed up the grab, what's this one? |
| 16:44.50 | learner | jb, I think this is the link: http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/Sample_Code/Graphics_3D/VBL.htm |
| 16:45.12 | learner | it's opengl as well |
| 16:45.52 | learner | and uses cocoa/core instead of carbon |
| 16:46.04 | JBDiGriz | I'll look at that one as well, have you tried it to grab a bzflag buffer? |
| 16:46.21 | bryjen | Woohoo! http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/ServerCommands |
| 16:46.41 | learner | not yet, I've played with it trying to get it to switch windowed/fullscreen on demand via keystroke |
| 16:47.33 | JBDiGriz | What's up with bryjen, first complaints about the wiki, and then he's getting manic about the wiki? |
| 16:48.17 | bryjen | It took almost *2* hours to feed that stuff from the bzfs man page into the wiki. :( |
| 16:48.56 | bryjen | It kept hanging on submit, so I had to feed it in little pieces. |
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| 16:49.14 | JBDiGriz | Did you do this automatically, or cut and paste? |
| 16:49.26 | bryjen | C-n-P |
| 16:49.52 | learner | control-n-Shift-P? well of course it isn't goinng to work! |
| 16:50.03 | bryjen | learner: :P |
| 16:50.17 | JBDiGriz | Depends on how you've mapped your keyboard, doesn't it? ;-P |
| 16:50.21 | bryjen | how do you know what my key bindings are ? ;) |
| 16:50.47 | learner | heh, touché |
| 16:51.23 | JBDiGriz | The Apple Human Interface guidelines are really just guidelines! ;-) |
| 16:51.37 | learner | lol |
| 16:52.34 | bryjen | Sha. If there's a Mac mobo in this black IBM case, somebody's modded more than just key maps ;) |
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| 16:53.12 | david_v | man, a guy in EU ran out of money? sigh... |
| 16:53.17 | JBDiGriz | Everyone believes that the Mac way of doing things is now a formal rule. Why choose v-c-x for paste copy and cut? |
| 16:53.21 | david_v | does this mean the EU server is out forever? |
| 16:53.35 | david_v | just one hub though but... |
| 16:53.59 | learner | jb: true |
| 16:54.24 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: That applies to the Windows world as well! ;-P |
| 16:54.45 | prot-work | so the guy i was meeting isn't going to show up for a while longer =/ |
| 16:54.55 | JBDiGriz | Moin capn, did we disturb you? |
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| 17:15.21 | Quol_AtWork | anyone use any "ip accounting" types of software? |
| 18:03.09 | learner | w00t! |
| 18:04.34 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (WordFilter.h): need bitset header now |
| 18:06.56 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): properly match word boundaries using a bitset |
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| 18:25.42 | Chikorita | *yawn* |
| 18:25.55 | Chikorita | nap time |
| 18:25.59 | Chikorita | -.- |
| 18:29.44 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): cleaned up compile warnings and output jabber |
| 18:30.06 | Chikorita | ty |
| 18:30.28 | Chikorita | i could use sum |
| 18:30.45 | david_v | learner you little penguin butcher :) or do you use some flavouring? ;) |
| 18:30.56 | Chikorita | had a big day yesterday so tired i was up 24hrs. :P |
| 18:31.00 | david_v | hehe |
| 18:31.04 | Chikorita | lol david |
| 18:31.07 | Chikorita | hi |
| 18:31.11 | david_v | hey hey :) |
| 18:31.39 | Chikorita | sum1 sed david was leaving BZflag an i was skeer it was u , buh den i found it was anuther dave |
| 18:31.42 | Chikorita | :P |
| 18:31.48 | david_v | hehe |
| 18:31.57 | david_v | no way i'd leave bzflag. i'd rather die! :) |
| 18:32.02 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 18:32.07 | Chikorita | uh huh mee2 |
| 18:32.11 | david_v | ;) |
| 18:32.37 | Chikorita | hey guess wut L |
| 18:48.32 | david_v | took me a good five seconds to realize what you meant with "L"... well, let's hear :) |
| 18:52.51 | dheckaman | green apples forever! |
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| 19:01.23 | Chikorita | hi bzg |
| 19:01.33 | bzgirl | hi |
| 19:02.02 | strayer | can anyone kick 'Yo!' from ducati:5156?...its a teamkiller |
| 19:02.15 | fiberchunks | allo -- taking a break from cleaning the iguana enclosure :\ |
| 19:02.21 | strayer | nand he/she is not willing to stop it |
| 19:02.24 | Chikorita | yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo! a tk'er? |
| 19:02.32 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 19:02.34 | strayer | yes |
| 19:02.42 | strayer | maybe not the yo U know |
| 19:02.48 | david_v | only three there now and no "Yo" |
| 19:02.49 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 19:02.57 | Chikorita | usually yoooooooooooooo! is ok |
| 19:03.07 | strayer | hm...ok...then he/she left now... |
| 19:03.18 | bzgirl | i banned yoooooo! for an hour |
| 19:03.35 | strayer | oki... |
| 19:03.38 | bzgirl | he twice rejoined to get behind me in the base |
| 19:03.51 | Chikorita | bad bad |
| 19:03.54 | bzgirl | this rejoining thing is getting out of hand now |
| 19:03.55 | strayer | yupp |
| 19:04.06 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 19:04.15 | bzgirl | Chikorita: yeah usually hes ok |
| 19:04.29 | fiberchunks | can't those people just go masturbate or something? is cheating / tking really that enjoyable? |
| 19:05.07 | bzgirl | learner a timout would work, 5-10s |
| 19:05.33 | fiberchunks | so then you've gotta wait 10 seconds to get back in game? |
| 19:05.37 | bzgirl | yup |
| 19:05.42 | fiberchunks | oi |
| 19:06.08 | bzgirl | unless its a superkill or some server kick maybe |
| 19:06.19 | Chikorita | yay |
| 19:06.25 | Chikorita | good idea |
| 19:06.26 | bzgirl | even so, 5 secs isnt long to wait |
| 19:06.28 | fiberchunks | that's a looooong time, imho |
| 19:06.30 | learner | bzgirl: was thinking to make a default of something between 5-30 sec and allow a server option to override |
| 19:06.45 | bzgirl | fiber in ctf only though |
| 19:06.57 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 19:06.59 | Chikorita | i would make it 10 secs |
| 19:07.15 | Chikorita | 5 stil isnt enuff i tink |
| 19:07.24 | Chikorita | jus mee opionion buh i dunno |
| 19:07.30 | learner | it takes 30s to cross the map, iirc? |
| 19:07.36 | fiberchunks | what about just making the entire 'timeout' stuff server-side? eliminate hacking the client to cut the rejoin time down too |
| 19:07.54 | learner | that'd make a default of 15s |
| 19:07.55 | fiberchunks | learner> don't think so -- think it's shorter |
| 19:08.01 | learner | fiber: completely server side |
| 19:08.21 | learner | shorter eh? hrm |
| 19:08.27 | fiberchunks | oh, it is already? |
| 19:08.31 | fiberchunks | server-side, that is? |
| 19:08.54 | learner | I was going to make the timeout a completely server-side effect |
| 19:09.06 | fiberchunks | yah, I thought it was something like 8 seconds at full-throttle, but I'm probably wrong |
| 19:09.11 | learner | server would respond with unable to connect until the timeout completes |
| 19:09.22 | learner | 8sec?? to cross the map? |
| 19:09.24 | bzgirl | that'd be good |
| 19:09.28 | david_v | i don't like the idea, considering people might get disconnected etc |
| 19:09.30 | fiberchunks | learner> does that include the regular, 'you're dead, now wait' timeout as well? |
| 19:09.38 | Chestal | hurrah, work finished for today (I think) |
| 19:09.42 | david_v | limiting the number of rejoins is better, IMO |
| 19:09.53 | bzgirl | david_v: it hopefully would only affect you if you manually disconnected |
| 19:10.06 | fiberchunks | hrm, perhaps only limit on serverPart or whatever that message is |
| 19:10.19 | learner | yea, it should be easy enough to detect a quit and a drop |
| 19:10.23 | Chestal | every time a player joins my server he is billed 0.05E, will make those rejoiners think twice :-) |
| 19:10.32 | learner | lol chestal |
| 19:10.32 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 19:10.33 | bzgirl | Chestal: youd be rich |
| 19:10.57 | fiberchunks | alrighty - back to the iguana cleansing :) |
| 19:11.12 | Chikorita | would it affect peeps who rejoin 2 go as an observer? |
| 19:11.14 | bzgirl | Chestal:maybe a swear jar too, $1 for wach bad word you say |
| 19:11.16 | david_v | lol |
| 19:11.31 | learner | heh |
| 19:11.35 | david_v | why not on an expontial scale? :) |
| 19:12.04 | Chestal | bzgirl: with 0.05E/join, I'd only get about 1000 to 1500E a month. Wouldn't make me rich, but would be ok :-) |
| 19:12.28 | bzgirl | what is an E? a Euro? |
| 19:12.32 | david_v | hehe |
| 19:12.33 | Chestal | yep |
| 19:12.36 | Chikorita | uh huh |
| 19:12.38 | strayer | only 'robber barons' here... |
| 19:12.42 | Chestal | don't have a key to use the real symbol here |
| 19:12.57 | strayer | € |
| 19:12.58 | bzgirl | you guys should really switch to dollars |
| 19:13.03 | Chikorita | wee should do dat , den our server woulkd pay 4 itself ;) |
| 19:13.09 | learner | chestal, if you don't want it, I'd be more than willing to accept those euros from you |
| 19:13.16 | bzgirl | instead of making up your own "play" money |
| 19:13.34 | learner | bzgirl: ! |
| 19:13.38 | Chestal | bzgirl: pfft, when there's such a thing as "play" money, than it's US $ |
| 19:13.39 | learner | hehe |
| 19:13.46 | Chestal | although the newest bills look somewhat better |
| 19:14.01 | Chestal | soem years ago, every child could produce fake $ easily |
| 19:14.13 | learner | well, I'd have to agree that the latest colored US currency very much reminds me of my monopoly money.. |
| 19:14.37 | Chikorita | i havent seen any yet |
| 19:14.43 | Chestal | I suspect one of the main reasons why cash isn't used that much in the US is because it is so ugly :-) |
| 19:14.51 | Chikorita | o gues wut L |
| 19:14.53 | learner | http://money.cnn.com/2003/03/05/news/money/ |
| 19:15.17 | Chestal | bzgirl: I never saw Canadian $ though |
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| 19:15.40 | bzgirl | Chestal: its very nice, although not worth much, looks great |
| 19:15.46 | learner | I keep getting those dang canadian pennies and dimes mixed in my pocked change :) |
| 19:16.01 | Chikorita | lol L |
| 19:16.20 | Chikorita | an canadian quarters too |
| 19:16.34 | Chikorita | y did dey make dem da same size i wonder |
| 19:16.50 | learner | yea, those are the worst.. can't use them in any machines since the weight is slightly off |
| 19:16.51 | Enotirab | have you ppl seen asdf lately? |
| 19:16.56 | learner | yesterday |
| 19:16.58 | david_v | yes |
| 19:17.04 | david_v | he was in a match vs TLZ |
| 19:17.07 | david_v | 9-2... hehe |
| 19:17.08 | Enotirab | thanks |
| 19:17.08 | Chikorita | i like goin to canada cuz da US dolla can buy more stuff :) |
| 19:17.54 | Chikorita | anywayzz |
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| 19:22.54 | Chestal | another thunderstorm is brewing here |
| 19:25.24 | learner | anyone know how to get a non-const iterator? |
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| 19:25.54 | learner | or how to convert an iterator to non-const |
| 19:26.12 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.12 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.38 | learner | i->whatever ends up being const |
| 19:26.55 | learner | I need/want to set i->whatever |
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| 19:28.01 | Chestal | elements in a set are const |
| 19:28.12 | Chestal | because if you modify them it might change their sort order |
| 19:29.04 | learner | so what should I be using then? |
| 19:29.40 | Chestal | well, it depends on what are you trying to do |
| 19:30.04 | Chestal | what is it that is in the set and why do you want to modify what is in there? |
| 19:31.15 | learner | I have an array of structs |
| 19:31.28 | learner | the structs contain basically two strings |
| 19:31.31 | learner | I set one of them |
| 19:31.40 | learner | then it gets added to the set |
| 19:31.58 | learner | then I was intending to iterate over the set to autogenerate the second string |
| 19:32.43 | learner | I can get around the whole issue by simple doing the generation before I add, but it'd be good to know for later |
| 19:32.52 | Chestal | and after that the elements do not ever change? And you then suethe set to lookup if an element is in the set? Based onthe first string? |
| 19:33.12 | learner | yes |
| 19:33.27 | learner | yes.. it's a cheesy hash.. (sorta) |
| 19:33.56 | learner | a real hash would probably server me better |
| 19:33.57 | Chestal | hmm, well. Possiblesolutions: 1) calculate first, then add toset 2) use a map, not a set (key=string1, value=string2), 3) make string2 mutable |
| 19:34.02 | learner | but I had that slated for later |
| 19:34.30 | learner | string2 is mutable as is afaik (it's not specified const) |
| 19:35.07 | learner | mkay, cool -- I just did #1, I'll keep #2 in mind for later |
| 19:35.11 | Chestal | no, I mean using the keyword 'mutable' |
| 19:35.17 | learner | ah |
| 19:35.20 | Chestal | but itwould probably be a design error |
| 19:35.23 | learner | eek |
| 19:35.24 | learner | yea |
| 19:37.39 | learner | yay, it works |
| 19:38.44 | learner | why does it take so long to do 29000 large regexp's ?? :) |
| 19:39.51 | david_v | learner: because you put sleep(10) in one of them :) |
| 19:41.19 | learner | hrm. 66.4% of my time is in _lstep |
| 19:41.27 | learner | I should be able to do better |
| 19:42.56 | learner | jeesh.. 4.7% doing bracket expansion! |
| 19:45.19 | david_v | s/learner.*//; exit; |
| 19:45.38 | david_v | oh forgot the g :) |
| 19:45.52 | learner | heh |
| 19:48.21 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): picked door #1 and fixed the const/set issue, more cleansing of output jabbertalk |
| 19:49.02 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (WordFilter.h): added verbosity control to file loading |
| 19:50.05 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): added WordFilter to libCommon |
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| 20:05.02 | learner | preference question.. if bzfs is going to be loading a file, should it be quiet by default or should it display progress? |
| 20:05.20 | learner | it takes ~ 10-20 sec to load the file depending on the size |
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| 20:07.58 | prot-work | learner: make it configurable .... |
| 20:08.06 | prot-work | perhaps with debug verbosity? |
| 20:08.07 | learner | it is |
| 20:08.12 | learner | I'm wondering on the default |
| 20:08.14 | prot-work | quiet by default, -D shows progress |
| 20:08.17 | learner | I think I have a solution |
| 20:08.42 | learner | loading was previous in the argument handler (hence I couldn't use -d verbosity) |
| 20:08.47 | learner | i've moved it out |
| 20:14.13 | Tupone | prot-work: I have put as a patch, and works on MinGW32 too, SDLMedia (audio handled via SDL - low level). Do you mind if I put it in CVS, just as a configurable, non default thing? |
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| 20:16.41 | prot-work | Tupone: i'd like to take a look at it, because it would be nice to bring in the sound manager from 1.8 |
| 20:18.06 | Tupone | prot-work: the basic is in the patch (sf). I made some little adjustment for MinGW32 and is in my computer. If you need the whole I can send it. |
| 20:20.59 | prot-work | if you can update the patch on sf to the latest that would be great |
| 20:21.04 | prot-work | i'll take a looksee later tonight |
| 20:21.13 | Tupone | I'll try! |
| 20:38.09 | bryjen | ./autogen.sh --enable-debug |
| 20:38.10 | bryjen | ... |
| 20:38.12 | bryjen | cc1plus: warnings being treated as errors |
| 20:38.13 | bryjen | WordFilter.cxx: In member function `bool WordFilter::aggressiveFilter(char*) |
| 20:38.15 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.16 | bryjen | WordFilter.cxx:152: warning: passing NULL used for non-pointer argument passing |
| 20:38.18 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.20 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.21 | bryjen | WordFilter.cxx:152: warning: argument to non-pointer type `int' from NULL |
| 20:38.22 | bryjen | make[2]: *** [WordFilter.o] Error 1 |
| 20:38.24 | bryjen | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bryjen/src/bzflag/src/common' |
| 20:38.25 | bryjen | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 20:38.27 | bryjen | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bryjen/src/bzflag/src' |
| 20:38.29 | bryjen | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 20:38.39 | Tupone | I'm fixing that! |
| 20:39.23 | bryjen | Ok |
| 20:40.09 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src (2 files in 2 dirs): compiler warnings removed |
| 20:40.28 | bryjen | Wow. That's fast service :) |
| 20:40.49 | learner | ah.. bryjen.. I'll fix that |
| 20:41.03 | bryjen | learner: Tupone may have already |
| 20:41.15 | learner | okay |
| 20:41.23 | dheckaman | hey, I think I fixed that allready |
| 20:41.24 | learner | forgot about you non-regexp peoples |
| 20:41.26 | dheckaman | :P |
| 20:42.59 | Tupone | Robots code does not work on public server: either the sites are not updated or ... Locally they work! |
| 20:43.46 | bryjen | Are robots still missing UDP ? |
| 20:44.36 | Tupone | When I shoot ... server is kicking me |
| 20:44.48 | bryjen | That sounds like no UDP |
| 20:44.59 | Tupone | That is the message |
| 20:48.17 | learner | if someone else who is much more familiar with autoconf would add a check for regex.h and regexp/regcomp... that would be great |
| 20:49.21 | Tupone | if capt trust-me :) I can do that |
| 21:06.35 | prot-work | Tupone: go ahead, just don't break it ;-) |
| 21:06.57 | Tupone | prot-work: I have published the patch! |
| 21:07.21 | learner | cap, what are your thoughts around adding a default swear list |
| 21:07.46 | learner | I have a multilingual compilation |
| 21:08.24 | learner | more complete than most people will be able to put together without some effort |
| 21:08.52 | learner | Probably not a good idea to have in a source release, but in cvs as a resource might be useful |
| 21:12.30 | JBDiGriz | I would think many people would be interested in a multilingual swearing file, but possibly not for your reasons ;{) |
| 21:12.55 | prot-work | learner: hm. ask tim |
| 21:13.01 | learner | heh, yea.. I know how to say more in more languages than I care to know |
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| 21:13.10 | learner | cap, mkay |
| 21:13.18 | JBDiGriz | How much of that file is Arabic? |
| 21:14.18 | learner | 26 word/phrases |
| 21:18.10 | learner | the non-english languages presently use phonetics, but since bz doesn't support unicode, it's the closest rep. |
| 21:19.03 | learner | er, languages that use non-abc's (i.e. symbols like kanji or arabic) |
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| 21:39.05 | Quol_AtWork | hello all |
| 21:39.51 | fiberchunks | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.02 | Quol_AtWork | how R ya fiber? |
| 21:40.07 | fiberchunks | good, thx |
| 21:40.50 | fiberchunks | gonna go play some now |
| 21:43.27 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: Would you shoot someone for me? |
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| 21:45.01 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 21:45.34 | Chikorita | ooH fiber on ducati |
| 21:46.22 | *** part/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 21:46.24 | learner | eek.. fiber vs. asdf |
| 21:46.28 | learner | poor fiber |
| 21:46.34 | learner | ah.. same team heheh |
| 21:47.18 | JBDiGriz | Looks like Chica is heading there as well. I wonder which team she will choose? |
| 21:47.46 | bzdoug_ | bzflag needs team balancing |
| 21:47.48 | bzdoug_ | :)_ |
| 21:48.06 | JBDiGriz | Hard to do, most players are fairly unbalanced to start with. |
| 21:48.31 | bzdoug_ | indeed |
| 21:48.43 | bzdoug_ | that enemy territory has a neat way of doing it |
| 21:49.00 | bzdoug_ | each player has "XP" |
| 21:49.08 | bzdoug_ | the better they play, the higher the XP |
| 21:49.20 | bzdoug_ | then the server can do a shuffle by XP and even it all out |
| 21:50.24 | learner | hrm.. adding the new filter makes memory usage skyrocket |
| 21:50.38 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 21:53.32 | bryjen | learner: my bzfs box only has like 8 MB of RAM...... or maybe 16, and currently runs quite nicely |
| 21:54.20 | learner | yes, so you won't be able to do inappropriate bad word filtering |
| 21:54.23 | learner | :/ |
| 21:54.44 | bryjen | errr, "inappropriate bad" ? |
| 21:54.45 | learner | or you'll be limited to a relatively small filter list |
| 21:55.36 | Quol_AtWork | 066.062.140.111 is always logging on and off on all my servers - anyone know what/why that is? |
| 21:55.50 | learner | the present list is about 2000 words/phrases that expands to about 30000 words |
| 21:55.51 | bryjen | stats server? |
| 21:55.57 | bzdoug_ | problebly |
| 21:56.10 | Quol_AtWork | ahhh - maybe... |
| 21:56.46 | bryjen | does it actually logon with a callsign or just accept() connection from ? |
| 21:56.59 | Quol_AtWork | just accept() |
| 21:57.21 | bryjen | sounds like stats or player locator or something |
| 21:57.53 | Quol_AtWork | puts lots of crap in my logs.... |
| 21:58.14 | Quol_AtWork | bzfs should maybe have an option to output stuff into your logs without specifying the -d |
| 21:58.18 | Quol_AtWork | or more -d's |
| 21:58.58 | bryjen | I've got lots of accepts from there too. Must be stats |
| 21:59.35 | Quol_AtWork | OK - at least it is supposed to be there :) |
| 21:59.59 | bryjen | ~nslookup 66.62.140.111 |
| 22:00.18 | Quol_AtWork | I just did that - it's stats alright |
| 22:00.21 | bryjen | otay |
| 22:00.38 | Quol_AtWork | Pinging stats.noodleroni.com [66.62.140.111]Pinging stats.noodleroni.com [66.62.140.111] |
| 22:01.43 | Quol_AtWork | just those checks amount to about 50K every half hour |
| 22:03.33 | learner | yeay.. hulk on sci-fi |
| 22:03.59 | Quol_AtWork | gota go...C U later.... |
| 22:05.07 | bryjen | 50K/.5hr = 100K/hr = 2400K/day = 876000K/yr = 856M/yr |
| 22:05.26 | bzdoug_ | not too bad |
| 22:05.38 | learner | that's all?? :) |
| 22:05.46 | bzdoug_ | I know of alot of stuff that would take alot more :) |
| 22:06.07 | learner | what's your debug level? |
| 22:06.10 | bzdoug_ | eg a single slashdotting could transfer a few gigs in a half hour :) |
| 22:07.25 | bryjen | _Eight Hundred Fifty Six MegaBytes_ of useless accept / disconnect messages. |
| 22:08.20 | bzdoug_ | better than windows update :) |
| 22:08.57 | bryjen | Did I mention my bzfs bitty-box probly has a < 1G disk drive ? :) |
| 22:09.04 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 22:09.09 | bzdoug_ | why log it? :P |
| 22:09.20 | bryjen | must to be rotatin' dem logs. |
| 22:11.03 | bryjen | "why log it?" Mostly to look for cheat auto-kicks and such to add luser's IPs to the ban list. |
| 22:11.13 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 22:19.06 | bryjen | just in time to go home. |
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| 22:24.12 | Chikorita | hi |
| 22:24.42 | Chikorita | lalalalala |
| 22:25.53 | fiberchunks | ah, talk took longer than I thought |
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| 22:34.04 | learner | heh |
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| 22:45.20 | fiberchunks | well, that was fun |
| 22:46.27 | fiberchunks | learner> you about? |
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| 23:04.56 | Chikorita | ~d |
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| 23:23.48 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): made loadFromFile report how many were loaded |
| 23:29.05 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): converted bzfs to use new filter, added -filterCallsigns -filterChat and -filterSimple args |
| 23:31.14 | learner | yeppersare there any potty-mouths around with a 1.9 client handy? |
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| 23:43.26 | greg1 | Hi |
| 23:52.06 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-17-68.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 23:52.07 | learner | howdy greg |
| 23:54.39 | fiberchunks | learner> since potty-mouth applies to me, I'm rebuilding with latest snappage -- which server? |
| 23:56.19 | learner | heheh, that'd be bunnyhunt |
| 23:57.00 | fiberchunks | gimme a minute -- still compiling |
| 23:57.03 | learner | I only have english, german, spanish, italian, swedish, finnish, and dutch loaded |
| 23:57.26 | fiberchunks | well, I'll try some in german too |
| 23:57.38 | fiberchunks | no french eh? |
| 23:58.25 | learner | er, french too |
| 23:58.32 | fiberchunks | I'll try some of that too |
| 23:58.41 | learner | I'm sure the other languages are a bit lacking |
| 23:59.37 | learner | pegs my cpu though with how the current suffix comparisons are made.. :( |
| 23:59.49 | fiberchunks | ah, doesn't filter pimmel |
| 23:59.51 | learner | need smp -- machine runs at half speed |
