| 00:00.14 | learner | Michalh, no.. to your question about 20 min ago.. |
| 00:00.38 | learner | they're not in the game.. they're in the menu ;) |
| 00:02.03 | Michaelh | are *you* the fist? |
| 00:02.10 | Michaelh | just curious |
| 00:02.12 | learner | heck no |
| 00:02.21 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i kind of like the idea of having two bits for passability |
| 00:02.26 | Michaelh | but being able to shoot and jump while in menus is good isn't it? |
| 00:02.35 | learner | hmmm |
| 00:03.03 | TimRiker | captain_proton: I veto it. convince me if you like. |
| 00:03.25 | learner | that'd really screw with event handling the menu.. I play with keys as it is.. what's hitting enter going to do when I have a menu in from of me |
| 00:03.39 | captain_proton | TimRiker: ok, i'll wait until i have a good reason for it :) |
| 00:03.41 | TimRiker | having transparent walls/pyr is confusing enough for first time players without having shots and tanks treated differently. |
| 00:04.08 | learner | that'd be neat |
| 00:04.46 | learner | as it is, I have this all powerful radar that tells me who to "avoid" .. :) |
| 00:04.58 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): make ctf not crash |
| 00:05.24 | Michaelh | funny thing is learner .. if you are on a list item -- that you can choose from several options -- you can actually use in the game keys |
| 00:05.31 | Michaelh | like most of the options menu |
| 00:05.37 | Michaelh | but if you are on a label you can't |
| 00:06.02 | *** join/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 00:06.04 | Michaelh | the code is cvs also gets wacky if you hit n for send message and it goes through while in a menu |
| 00:06.16 | Michaelh | you can't ever exit the menu then :) |
| 00:06.32 | Michaelh | I think I fixed it though |
| 00:06.42 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): z for bases |
| 00:06.54 | captain_proton | TimRiker: you mean Z height? |
| 00:07.03 | learner | I'd say decouple them comletely just so the behaviour is easily defineable without introducing a locus modality |
| 00:07.18 | learner | i.e. I shouldn't have to care which menu item I'm on to know if I can turn/fire |
| 00:07.25 | learner | if I'm in the menu.. I can't |
| 00:07.27 | TimRiker | captain_proton: yeah. |
| 00:07.47 | Michaelh | You can actually turn and fire in both, but you can't "chat" in both :) |
| 00:08.00 | Michaelh | they have two separate key handlers... :) |
| 00:08.10 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): ok, height |
| 00:08.14 | learner | is there a way to see commit diffs as they occur right now? |
| 00:08.36 | learner | or perhaps even just the files commited |
| 00:08.48 | learner | er, list of files |
| 00:08.51 | TimRiker | rabbit code should be generic team moving on server request, no? |
| 00:08.57 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/mac.jpg |
| 00:09.02 | TimRiker | then server could be set to balance teams too. |
| 00:09.39 | TimRiker | ie server -> player: change to team {rabbit|rogue|...} |
| 00:09.56 | captain_proton | server auto-balancing teams could get -really- confusing :) |
| 00:10.49 | TimRiker | agreed. but if rabbit handling in the client was just a team move, then we can mess with it later. |
| 00:11.20 | captain_proton | ok, time to go to dinner with the family |
| 00:11.27 | captain_proton | i'll do the base stuff later tonight |
| 00:11.29 | TimRiker | once karma is in, we'll start thinking about having team "leaders" etc. who may have team moving access. |
| 00:11.44 | TimRiker | certianly the server admin should on league games. |
| 00:11.57 | TimRiker | ie: oops, you should be red.... poof. |
| 00:12.18 | learner | hmmm.. food for thought |
| 00:12.52 | TimRiker | client should have an option to join on to the "smallest team" or "server picked team" is probably more accurate. |
| 00:13.14 | TimRiker | that might even be the default team choice when you start the client. |
| 00:13.15 | learner | that would assume that team leaders would not disagree.. |
| 00:13.34 | TimRiker | learner: or that they could only move players to/from rogue |
| 00:13.44 | learner | there are a bundle of classes.. Weakest, Strongest, smallest, largest, etc |
| 00:14.04 | TimRiker | learner: hence the need to do it on the server side. |
| 00:14.11 | learner | ah, Tim, good idea -- or perhaps from observer as well |
| 00:14.23 | *** join/#bzflag eddienull (~kevin@adsl-63-195-130-242.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 00:14.36 | learner | if a team admin didn't want non-team observers on their team |
| 00:14.43 | learner | poof |
| 00:14.45 | TimRiker | learner: that would work too. server could be set to only allow observers, and then the captians/admins create the teams. |
| 00:14.56 | TimRiker | er captains |
| 00:15.22 | learner | er, hair->hairy |
| 00:16.24 | learner | having to 1) find an admin to make you a team captain 2) be around to start matches 3) stay around to be watchdog... |
| 00:16.26 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): observers team |
| 00:16.32 | learner | could get nasty on N servers |
| 00:16.49 | learner | not to mention logistic complications |
| 00:17.38 | TimRiker | learner: agreed. the karma system with a larger list of admins will help, but it's still messy. |
| 00:18.09 | learner | for league matches, there needs to be a persistent ref |
| 00:18.33 | learner | perhaps something akin to the MsgServ |
| 00:18.35 | TimRiker | probably |
| 00:18.45 | learner | players could even "schedule" matches through the ref |
| 00:18.59 | learner | the ref could watch gameplay and keep invalid members off the map |
| 00:19.04 | learner | watch lag, etc |
| 00:19.20 | learner | that kinda falls under bot-realm though |
| 00:19.34 | learner | a bzref bzbot |
| 00:20.01 | TimRiker | ibot: join xmission and kick off Hacker |
| 00:20.17 | learner | lol |
| 00:21.01 | learner | that would go along well with the IRC coupling that was mentioned earlier |
| 00:22.35 | Michaelh | next step --> buddies list |
| 00:22.50 | learner | I've actually been thinking about that one, per request |
| 00:22.57 | learner | it's also probably the easiest |
| 00:23.28 | learner | very closely related to the [un]silence cruft |
| 00:26.34 | TimRiker | so what happens when a player is a buddie? |
| 00:26.56 | learner | basically, they would have permission to private message you |
| 00:27.17 | learner | those not in your buddy list would not be able to |
| 00:27.40 | learner | if you didn't have a buddy list, behavior stays the same as now |
| 00:28.00 | TimRiker | al |
| 00:28.03 | TimRiker | er ah |
| 00:28.12 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): byte length for world components |
| 00:28.14 | learner | if "fixes" the problem of abusive players private-messaging others |
| 00:28.37 | TimRiker | would anyone here use it if it were setup that way? |
| 00:28.46 | learner | kind of like a pgp handshake |
| 00:28.49 | TimRiker | I think I'd find it too annoying to enable. |
| 00:29.30 | learner | a couple of the bz ladies have made this request as they get a lot of private messages |
| 00:29.38 | Michaelh | I think it makes some sence..... really some people send private messages that are abusive |
| 00:29.41 | learner | many not .. um .. "polite" |
| 00:30.13 | sussudio | Michaelh: asdf? |
| 00:30.36 | learner | asdf is a classic offender of this, especially on newbies |
| 00:31.14 | scanline | ~spell flys |
| 00:31.17 | | possible spellings for flys: flays flus fly Flss fays Alys flu's flues flay felts flats flits flubs Floyd flush |
| 00:31.34 | learner | flies |
| 00:31.45 | scanline | tell that to whoever wrote Flag.cxx :) |
| 00:32.08 | Michaelh | the handling of identities is a bit difficult |
| 00:32.10 | Michaelh | and how dare you call my [un]silence cruft :) |
| 00:32.10 | Michaelh | heh |
| 00:32.10 | Michaelh | You want it to say silence or unsilence instead? |
| 00:32.12 | learner | maybe they mean Fry's |
| 00:32.35 | learner | lol, I didn't mean it in a negative way michael -- old meant old |
| 00:32.39 | Michaelh | asdf -- does what -- private messages people? |
| 00:32.46 | learner | all the time |
| 00:33.01 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12bzflag/src/common (Flag.cxx): flys -> flies |
| 00:33.12 | Michaelh | heh |
| 00:33.14 | sussudio | using lots of 4 letter words |
| 00:33.43 | Michaelh | I suppose sticking nicks in a list and ignoring them sort of qualifies as cruft |
| 00:34.23 | learner | where is that list presently stored? |
| 00:34.27 | learner | in .bzflag? |
| 00:34.57 | learner | or is it not persistent.. |
| 00:37.13 | Michaelh | in the .bzc or whatever |
| 00:37.24 | Michaelh | it's stored as ignoredPerson0 asdSAdlkasjdasd |
| 00:37.29 | Michaelh | ignoredPerson1 asdkjASJASLJKALGKJSFGLKSFJG |
| 00:37.36 | Michaelh | ignoredPerson2 ASDLASJKFKAFJLSKFJ)AS(D*A)S(D*ASD |
| 00:37.37 | Michaelh | etc |
| 00:37.39 | learner | ah g2k |
| 00:38.17 | Michaelh | So you can wipe them out from there too |
| 00:38.47 | Michaelh | I think it would be good to give people some sort of identity..... |
| 00:38.57 | Michaelh | other than just a nick/password |
| 00:39.31 | Michaelh | hmmmmmm.. perhaps we can give out CD keys! woohoo |
| 00:43.38 | bryjen | there was talk of using pgp keys in the karma system |
| 00:56.57 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-118-6.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 00:58.40 | Michaelh | is there a library that allows you to build pgp keys I assume? |
| 01:04.44 | sussudio | GNUpg |
| 01:13.43 | *** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 01:14.01 | BZSpiff | Is there anyone on who can enter match results in the League site? |
| 01:15.38 | Michaelh | should people be able to jump while in the menus? |
| 01:19.22 | Michaelh | Who actually uses tab to navigate the menus? |
| 01:23.55 | CIA | 03michaelh20 * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (HUDui.cxx): Disable in game keys while in menu .. this makes HUDuiList consistent with HUDuiLabel. Also fixes unable to escape menu if hit message button while on a HUDuiList |
| 01:24.51 | *** part/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 01:27.31 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-64-172-197-175.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 01:27.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 01:27.41 | doughecka | hey Patlabor221 |
| 01:27.51 | Patlabor221 | awww I can't log into BZBB on my cell phone |
| 01:28.05 | doughecka | eww :) |
| 01:28.30 | Michaelh | awwwwwwwww |
| 01:28.33 | Michaelh | You need .net :) |
| 01:28.55 | Patlabor221 | how would that help? |
| 01:29.08 | Michaelh | I don't know but obviously it would help :) |
| 01:29.20 | learner | well if you had .net then you'd be braindamaged enough to not care about bzbb |
| 01:29.48 | Patlabor221 | well I have all the .net products |
| 01:29.50 | Michaelh | I'm only running on about it because I have to learn it here .. eventually |
| 01:29.56 | learner | :)) |
| 01:30.20 | Michaelh | Then you can buy the Microsquash Bzflag server ------ |
| 01:30.42 | doughecka | .net is getting silly now, to install the latest and greatest beta version of beta, I have to install like 3 cds of stuff just for the install |
| 01:31.02 | Michaelh | hey pat, why does vc++ say that Bzflag.exe doesn't have debugging code? |
| 01:31.12 | Michaelh | when it's 2.25 mb |
| 01:31.40 | Patlabor221 | is the debuger pointg to the right one, and are the pdbs in there? |
| 01:32.07 | learner | if it links static, wouldn't that be about right, regardless of debug |
| 01:32.40 | Patlabor221 | naw it's smaller then that in release |
| 01:33.16 | learner | ah, mkay |
| 01:33.26 | Michaelh | I see the vc60.pdb |
| 01:33.50 | learner | must do automatic stripping perhaps? debug shouldn't add gobbles extra |
| 01:33.55 | Michaelh | and bzflag.pdb |
| 01:33.57 | Patlabor221 | there shoudl be the bzflag.pdb too |
| 01:34.00 | Patlabor221 | it does |
| 01:34.05 | Patlabor221 | it adds sybmols |
| 01:34.13 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't work like it does on linux |
| 01:34.15 | Michaelh | does bebugging work for you? |
| 01:34.21 | Patlabor221 | let me check |
| 01:38.09 | Patlabor221 | hmmm somone change the dsp |
| 01:39.04 | sussudio | [voiceover] What learner doesn't know is that a bear has taken residence in his unix cave [/voiceover] |
| 01:39.30 | bryjen | and so is the bear ;) |
| 01:39.54 | Michaelh | XPerience death! :) |
| 01:41.10 | Patlabor221 | I can get aim on my phone :) |
| 01:41.18 | doughecka | hah, tmobile? |
| 01:42.01 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 01:42.03 | Patlabor221 | nextell |
| 01:42.06 | doughecka | ah, cool |
| 01:42.40 | doughecka | btw theres a AIM2IRC thing ;) |
| 01:43.12 | Patlabor221 | how do you run it? |
| 01:43.25 | Patlabor221 | I can't "install" anything on the pone |
| 01:44.21 | doughecka | its on like a desktop |
| 01:44.23 | doughecka | perl |
| 01:44.29 | doughecka | and it bridges irc and aim |
| 01:44.51 | Patlabor221 | but how would it get to a phone? |
| 01:45.02 | Patlabor221 | does it seem like an IM "buddi" |
| 01:45.07 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:45.21 | doughecka | http://freshmeat.net/redir/aim2irc/33574/url_tgz/aim2irc-0.5.tar.gz |
| 01:45.47 | Patlabor221 | I gots no perl |
| 01:47.37 | doughecka | http://www.brokenvaporware.com/~brian/aim_bots/aim2mud.pl |
| 01:50.11 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Added a spiffy Flag module that currently holds flag descriptions and abbreviations, and will be extended to implement flag behavior later |
| 01:58.34 | learner | wow, massive storm brewing |
| 02:18.45 | bryjen | clue-o-meter? |
| 02:19.28 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 02:21.31 | JBDiGriz | Would people's rankings be based on their cluefulness? |
| 02:21.33 | captain_proton | TimRiker: umm...didn't i already remove the reconnect? |
| 02:22.04 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz> there is a mod somewhere for that -- I must find it |
| 02:22.15 | fiberchunks | you can sort based on certain keywords and what not |
| 02:23.00 | JBDiGriz | I'll have to find the list of keywords, and post a totally clueful nonsense message. :{) |
| 02:23.14 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 02:23.16 | JBDiGriz | Then, I'll sound like marketing! |
| 02:24.04 | fiberchunks | http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/games/career/bin/ms.cgi |
| 02:24.39 | scanline | do the flags in MsgNegotiateFlags have to be sent in a particular order? |
| 02:24.48 | bryjen | ~dict oxymoron |
| 02:25.09 | JBDiGriz | I need a pointy haired smiley! :{) |
| 02:25.20 | bryjen | =:) |
| 02:25.32 | bryjen | }:) |
| 02:25.33 | fiberchunks | <:) |
| 02:25.44 | fiberchunks | perfect! }:-) |
| 02:25.50 | scanline | >:) |
| 02:25.52 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: That's a conehead smiley |
| 02:26.10 | fiberchunks | 3:-) |
| 02:26.18 | bryjen | It's a moose! |
| 02:26.20 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: I forget what the first is, but the second is a gnu smiley |
| 02:27.03 | fiberchunks | #:-) |
| 02:27.15 | JBDiGriz | I think Lincoln is something like =|:-) |
| 02:27.55 | scanline | mwahaha... my flag base class automatically generates the mnemonic and good/bad/abbreviation part of the description |
| 02:28.18 | JBDiGriz | I love my Prius! |
| 02:29.00 | fiberchunks | ooooo, gas economy too -- problem is: must be 4 door, big enough for a 6'3" 275 dude, and have 'family' attributes |
| 02:29.20 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: It's got all that. |
| 02:29.32 | fiberchunks | really now -- that thing'll fit a guy my size? |
| 02:29.43 | fiberchunks | comfortably? |
| 02:29.46 | JBDiGriz | I'm not that large, but others who are say it works for them. You have to try for yourself. |
| 02:29.52 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 02:29.57 | bryjen | oragami? |
| 02:30.33 | fiberchunks | she's leaning towards the camry -- which is prob what I'll end up getting |
| 02:30.44 | JBDiGriz | I have 3 kids, so 5 in the car quite regularly, and the kids say they have more room than the Taurus it replaced. |
| 02:30.52 | fiberchunks | I want this: 69 camaro rs/ss 396 |
| 02:30.56 | fiberchunks | >:) |
| 02:31.09 | fiberchunks | wow - that is impressive |
| 02:31.16 | fiberchunks | how's the power? |
| 02:31.51 | JBDiGriz | It's not going to beat the Camaro, but it took 3 adults up the grapevine at 80. |
| 02:32.20 | fiberchunks | heh, nothing beats a 60's era muscle machine ;) but that is still nice |
| 02:32.23 | bryjen | the 396 camaro just screams family, doesn't it? ;) |
| 02:32.28 | captain_proton | EEK |
| 02:32.30 | fiberchunks | absolutely ;) |
| 02:32.34 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): these are already done |
| 02:32.42 | captain_proton | crap crap crap |
| 02:32.44 | JBDiGriz | I know several familys that were started in a Camaro! :{) |
| 02:33.01 | fiberchunks | I attempted to start a couple of families in a 73 chevelle ;) |
| 02:33.10 | fiberchunks | non-sucessful luckily ;) |
| 02:33.38 | JBDiGriz | A chevelle, and you're 6'3" and 275? |
| 02:33.56 | bryjen | cheveLLe not cheveTTe |
| 02:34.05 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~QuolSimo@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:34.40 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 02:35.28 | bryjen | problems, captain_proton ? |
| 02:36.50 | fiberchunks | mother used to drag hudson hornets in Idaho: http://www.diecastmusclecars.com/hudson.htm |
| 02:37.02 | fiberchunks | she was a kick-ass broad ;) |
| 02:37.06 | captain_proton | accidentally committed something i didn't mean to |
| 02:38.13 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~QuolSimo@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:42.13 | ahbritto | Is there anyway to observe without locking up my mouse inside the window? |
| 02:42.25 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (2 files): revert the brokenness |
| 02:45.13 | bryjen | hmmm. s.b.o shows someone has used the callsign brygen |
| 02:45.45 | bryjen | illiterate impersonator |
| 02:46.09 | bryjen | ~seen Noodleman |
| 02:46.10 | | bryjen: i haven't seen 'noodleman ' |
| 02:47.42 | sussudio | ~google for brygen |
| 02:48.16 | bryjen | ack! now there's a bryjem too! |
| 02:48.36 | sussudio | haha |
| 02:52.01 | bryjen | why do I get the erie feeling sussudio is off to add more variations on my name? |
| 02:52.41 | Patlabor221 | bahhh bzbb dosn't like the fact that it can't send a cookie to my phone :) |
| 02:54.22 | bryjen | The phone does real web pages? And not just that WAP stuff? |
| 02:56.02 | Patlabor221 | it lets me get to a page |
| 02:56.08 | Patlabor221 | horible browser tho |
| 02:56.22 | Patlabor221 | I would not call it "real" |
| 02:57.27 | Patlabor221 | it does have mapquest, and that's cool :) |
| 02:58.17 | bryjen | ooo. Add GPS and a label stating "You Are Here" might actually be useful :) |
| 02:58.33 | Patlabor221 | I allways know where I am :) |
| 02:58.40 | Patlabor221 | directions are all I need |
| 02:58.47 | Patlabor221 | they had the phone with all that |
| 02:58.55 | Patlabor221 | it just cost 599$ |
| 02:59.00 | Patlabor221 | but it was COOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL |
| 02:59.12 | bryjen | ouch. ignorance is bliss. and less expensive. |
| 02:59.27 | Patlabor221 | yeah it was a full PDA/phone |
| 03:00.26 | Patlabor221 | ohh they have one for 299 that dosn't have ALLL the same stuff |
| 03:01.47 | bryjen | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030621 |
| 03:02.08 | Patlabor221 | mine is not that small |
| 03:04.28 | bryjen | the next 4 or 5 cartoons go on about the shiny toy |
| 03:04.50 | Patlabor221 | yeah I have read them |
| 03:05.05 | JBDiGriz | and what geeks will do for shiny toys! |
| 03:06.21 | JBDiGriz | Why does the stupid USB cord for a phone cost $30? |
| 03:07.01 | Patlabor221 | just wire one up |
| 03:07.19 | JBDiGriz | If only they used standard connectors. |
| 03:07.38 | bryjen | Same reason a parallel cable cost $5 and a 6 foot USB cable for my printer was 3-4x that |
| 03:08.10 | JBDiGriz | Fry's had 6' USB cables A-B for about $0.99 last week. |
| 03:08.23 | bryjen | eep |
| 03:08.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah the can be rather cheap these days |
| 03:08.41 | Patlabor221 | if you don' want the "gold" ones |
| 03:09.39 | *** join/#bzflag captain_proton (~blardebla@12-203-245-57.client.attbi.com) |
| 03:12.05 | scanline | bah! |
| 03:12.18 | scanline | flag negotiation fails because my client supports the US flag and the server doesn't |
| 03:12.30 | captain_proton | that shouldn't happen... |
| 03:12.35 | bryjen | backwards |
| 03:12.42 | scanline | the negotiation seems to be very badly written |
| 03:12.49 | scanline | it will fail if the number of flags is different |
| 03:12.53 | captain_proton | eww |
| 03:13.00 | captain_proton | the negotiation in 1.8 was pretty robust |
| 03:13.17 | captain_proton | i think apathy just did a crap job on this one, especially with the whole "MsgNull reject" |
| 03:13.46 | scanline | four lines of code really sum up the whole thing :) |
| 03:13.48 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.48 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.48 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.48 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.52 | TimRiker | huh? I see reconnect stuff. |
| 03:13.59 | captain_proton | TimRiker: where? |
| 03:14.30 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara /]$ lsof |grep bzfs |grep LISTEN |
| 03:14.32 | captain_proton | bzfs 2236 jupiter 3u IPv4 579808 TCP *:5155 (LISTEN) |
| 03:14.54 | TimRiker | [timr@cn014a0868018l1 bzflag]$ == 21 |
| 03:14.59 | TimRiker | erg... |
| 03:15.13 | captain_proton | ooh nice hostname |
| 03:15.14 | TimRiker | grep -iIrs reconnect . | grep -v relay | wc -l == 21 |
| 03:15.18 | TimRiker | heh |
| 03:16.05 | captain_proton | looks like most of those are out of date docs |
| 03:16.13 | captain_proton | some stuff in bzfs, i'll look into that |
| 03:16.35 | captain_proton | but it doesn't actually reconnect |
| 03:16.48 | TimRiker | ah... left over artifacts... |
| 03:19.49 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): reconnect artifacts |
| 03:20.32 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (6 files in 3 dirs): Remove the Useless flag from pybzflag, since the braindead flag negotiation code in bzfs won't let us connect if we support it |
| 03:20.54 | captain_proton | scanline: why not update your bzfs to support it? |
| 03:21.05 | captain_proton | or...is it that learner's server doesn't have it? |
| 03:21.25 | scanline | learner's server doesn't have it, plus one I just compiled from CVS doesn't have it |
| 03:21.31 | captain_proton | really |
| 03:22.01 | captain_proton | erg |
| 03:22.07 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): protocol.txt |
| 03:23.40 | captain_proton | scanline: i get them if i do 'bzfs +f US' |
| 03:23.51 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (Client.py): Oops, uncomment call to onNegotiateFlags() so we can get on with the connection afterwards |
| 03:24.01 | scanline | captain_proton: maybe you didn't add it to the list of flag enums? |
| 03:24.06 | scanline | that's what it uses to get the number of total flags |
| 03:24.10 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 03:24.13 | captain_proton | indeed i didn't |
| 03:24.14 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~sgi-tank@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:24.29 | SGI | hi |
| 03:24.58 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~sgi-tank@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:25.11 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/include (global.h): MAC, this flag nego sucks! fix it! |
| 03:25.56 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~sgi-tank@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:26.31 | scanline | seems like it should ignore the number of flags and just make sure that the client supports the flags actually being used in the current game, rather than making sure the sets of flags supported are identical |
| 03:26.50 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): indicate new structure |
| 03:26.52 | scanline | and then return a message indicating which flags were unsupported on failure |
| 03:27.07 | scanline | cd src/bz |
| 03:27.09 | captain_proton | scanline: that was the intent |
| 03:27.20 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~sgi-tank@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:27.21 | scanline | oop |
| 03:27.35 | TimRiker | rm -rf / |
| 03:28.38 | scanline | shouldn't reconnecting to learner's server cause it to be recompiled? |
| 03:29.07 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (.cvsignore): stop buggin' me |
| 03:29.15 | learner | no |
| 03:29.38 | learner | checks cvs every 10 minutes |
| 03:29.43 | scanline | ah |
| 03:29.51 | learner | if there are updates, it rebuilds immediately |
| 03:30.09 | learner | upon next server restart (when all players leave) the new server will be running |
| 03:30.40 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/Flag (List.py): Re-adding the Useless flag, since now the server actually supports it |
| 03:30.50 | learner | if you want to make sure, connect, disconnect, and reconnect and it'll be the latest given no build errors |
| 03:31.04 | learner | you'll see build failure in the log |
| 03:32.11 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~sgi-tank@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:32.15 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~sgi-tank@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:33.15 | *** join/#bzflag enchufe (~ccarroll@85.118.33.65.cfl.rr.com) |
| 03:33.40 | captain_proton | scanline: goodies get shipped tomorrow =} |
| 03:33.50 | scanline | hooray! |
| 03:35.34 | pizza | asdf? |
| 03:35.43 | *** join/#bzflag asdf_home (~ccarroll@85.118.33.65.cfl.rr.com) |
| 03:35.50 | pizza | heh |
| 03:36.15 | pizza | hola asdf |
| 03:36.33 | pizza | sopa? |
| 03:36.40 | scanline | soup? |
| 03:36.45 | pizza | n |
| 03:36.48 | pizza | o |
| 03:37.02 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:37.06 | pizza | que sopa pana? ;) |
| 03:37.09 | captain_proton | we should create the goofy flag group |
| 03:37.26 | captain_proton | US isn't exactly a 'good' flag :) |
| 03:37.53 | pizza | "US" flag? seriously? |
| 03:38.19 | captain_proton | USeless ;) |
| 03:38.21 | scanline | captain_proton: I suppose that would be (~US) or something instead of (+US)? |
| 03:38.29 | captain_proton | scanline: something |
| 03:38.46 | TimRiker | captain_proton: what happens on connect now? server still sends version? server also sends player id? |
| 03:39.02 | pizza | and insults |
| 03:39.05 | captain_proton | TimRiker: yep, should |
| 03:39.09 | TimRiker | k. |
| 03:39.17 | captain_proton | TimRiker: the wiki protocol page -should- be correct (mostly) |
| 03:40.04 | captain_proton | pizza: if you choose to interpret it as political commentary, thats your decision ;-) |
| 03:41.05 | pizza | you'll see... :) |
| 03:41.33 | pizza | is it a new flag or old? |
| 03:41.41 | captain_proton | new |
| 03:41.49 | scanline | very new |
| 03:41.52 | pizza | you'll see then ;) |
| 03:42.06 | captain_proton | what will i see? |
| 03:42.24 | pizza | tbd |
| 03:43.27 | TimRiker | captain_proton: think we can add enough doxgen docs someplace to get the cvs stuff onto the web site but keep the up to date one in the source? |
| 03:45.48 | captain_proton | TimRiker: probably |
| 03:47.24 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (3 files in 2 dirs): Build dictionaries mapping flag IDs and classes after negotiation |
| 03:47.35 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 03:47.37 | captain_proton | basePos[4] ?? |
| 03:50.57 | captain_proton | #6 0x4020febf in getservbyname_r@@GLIBC_2.1.2 () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 03:50.59 | captain_proton | #7 0x4020fd30 in getservbyname () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 03:50.59 | captain_proton | #8 0x08054d2c in serverStart () at bzfs.cxx:2202 |
| 03:50.59 | captain_proton | #9 0x08069335 in main (argc=6, argv=0xbffff644) at bzfs.cxx:7014 |
| 03:51.00 | captain_proton | i'm scared... |
| 03:53.05 | captain_proton | odd, i run it in valgrind and it works |
| 03:53.14 | captain_proton | race condition ... ? |
| 03:53.25 | scanline | or pointer coincidence |
| 03:54.43 | TimRiker | make distcheck is broken |
| 03:55.47 | captain_proton | hmm, bzfs is quite naughty when it comes to memory usage |
| 03:56.19 | TimRiker | yeah? fixable stuff? |
| 03:56.27 | captain_proton | with a little thought, yeah |
| 03:57.06 | captain_proton | looks like most of it is in all the packing |
| 03:58.51 | asdf_home | que es lo que es pizza? |
| 03:59.11 | asdf_home | queloques ? |
| 03:59.29 | captain_proton | bah |
| 03:59.53 | pizza | ta bueno |
| 04:00.21 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (3 files in 2 dirs): Respect the number of flags indicated in the MsgNegotiateFlags response rather than reading the entire message |
| 04:01.37 | asdf_home | oye pizza, tu vives en panama? |
| 04:02.13 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/platform (Makefile.am): whitespace and osx |
| 04:02.38 | learner | pizza == learner |
| 04:02.46 | asdf_home | ah, ya |
| 04:02.51 | learner | ;) |
| 04:02.52 | scanline | tasty |
| 04:02.57 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (TODO): more todo |
| 04:03.10 | asdf_home | oye, esto no se va acabar asi |
| 04:03.20 | learner | que cosa? |
| 04:03.22 | asdf_home | dime hombre, tu vivies in panama? |
| 04:03.37 | asdf_home | nada, taba recitando una cancion ;-) |
| 04:03.40 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (Makefile.am): no bmp |
| 04:03.48 | learner | ah, jejeje .. vivi'.. ya no |
| 04:03.55 | asdf_home | ah, vivia |
| 04:04.08 | learner | aja jej |
| 04:04.11 | asdf_home | pero tu eres de alla o que? |
| 04:04.28 | learner | si y no |
| 04:04.33 | asdf_home | ? |
| 04:04.46 | asdf_home | nacistes alla pero eres gringo? |
| 04:05.16 | learner | nah |
| 04:05.23 | asdf_home | cuentame |
| 04:05.31 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (TODO): lgpl is done |
| 04:05.33 | asdf_home | hehe |
| 04:06.28 | TimRiker | --disable-client is broken. |
| 04:06.33 | learner | vivi pa ya por muchos anos, tengo familia alli, creci en panama |
| 04:07.00 | asdf_home | en que parte vivias? |
| 04:07.20 | asdf_home | (mi esposa esta preguntando) |
| 04:07.28 | learner | en paitilla por muchos anos, despues por altos de la montan~a (aldo de club de montana) |
| 04:07.38 | learner | tu? |
| 04:08.43 | asdf_home | en chanis |
| 04:08.53 | learner | chevere |
| 04:09.10 | learner | tuve muchos amigos por compolimbergh |
| 04:09.13 | asdf_home | mi esposa todavia tiene casa alli |
| 04:09.51 | asdf_home | ta solido pues |
| 04:10.02 | asdf_home | bueno, me vay a dormir |
| 04:10.05 | asdf_home | no aguanto mas |
| 04:10.09 | asdf_home | buenas noches |
| 04:10.11 | learner | asi tu vives en florida? |
| 04:10.13 | asdf_home | si |
| 04:10.19 | learner | aja, tambien a ti |
| 04:10.25 | learner | buenas noches |
| 04:10.29 | asdf_home | noches |
| 04:12.33 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/mediafile (Makefile.am): no mediafile in servers |
| 04:14.06 | TimRiker | favor de hablar Ingles aqui. Si quieren hablar de bzflag y no hablan Ingles, pueden hablar in otras idiomas. |
| 04:15.26 | learner | por supuesto capitan, perdon |
| 04:17.19 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@balt-209-163-100-22.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 04:17.41 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: fix flag nego! :) |
| 04:21.04 | MrApathyCream | wassup? |
| 04:21.15 | TimRiker | learner: esta bien. "watchala" <- a little texmex for ya. |
| 04:22.27 | MrApathyCream | are any servers using useless yet? |
| 04:22.42 | TimRiker | "using useless" hehe |
| 04:22.49 | learner | I can in a sec, mac |
| 04:22.53 | learner | want me to? |
| 04:23.09 | MrApathyCream | please |
| 04:23.13 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/win32 (bzfs.dsp): Add WorldInfo to build |
| 04:23.19 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: what's wrong with nego? |
| 04:23.39 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: it sucks |
| 04:23.51 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you're comparing the flag counts instead of actually checking that the client knows about all the flags |
| 04:23.57 | captain_proton | plus you're sending MsgNull to reject?! |
| 04:24.10 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (5 files in 3 dirs): Implemented MsgFlagUpdate |
| 04:24.14 | MrApathyCream | The server checks flags no? |
| 04:24.29 | MrApathyCream | MsgNull, perhaps, will fix that |
| 04:24.50 | scanline | MrApathyCream: right now it breaks if the client supports more flags than the server, or if the client is missing a flag that the current game isn't even using |
| 04:25.10 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.12 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.12 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.12 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.28 | MrApathyCream | looking |
| 04:25.57 | captain_proton | the rest looks ok |
| 04:26.03 | MrApathyCream | :) heh |
| 04:26.04 | learner | up and running now, MAC |
| 04:26.08 | MrApathyCream | thannks learner |
| 04:26.16 | MrApathyCream | want me to send MsgSuperKill? |
| 04:26.17 | TimRiker | maybe we should leave useless on the server only. or add a "server only" flag that we have to disable on the command line. |
| 04:26.37 | scanline | MrApathyCream: send a message indicating which flags the client doesn't have that the game needs |
| 04:26.44 | captain_proton | TimRiker: with the current flag architecture the client needs at least the description string |
| 04:26.57 | TimRiker | well, let's fix that. ;-) |
| 04:27.15 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i don't really see what it gets us at the moment |
| 04:27.28 | captain_proton | it might be worth it eventually once the server is more responsible for behavior |
| 04:27.41 | captain_proton | but for now, i think US is the only flag that could take advantage of it |
| 04:28.53 | TimRiker | would be a Good Thing to be able to run new/modified servers and only support old clients if new flags are disabled. |
| 04:29.06 | TimRiker | s/only // |
| 04:29.08 | captain_proton | thats the intent of flag nego |
| 04:29.26 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (OverheadView.py): Draw flags in OverheadView |
| 04:29.51 | captain_proton | but when the # of flags has to match between client and server it kind of breaks :) |
| 04:30.19 | scanline | well, the rest of that code is also comparing the client's flags to the complete set of server flags rather than just the ones that are active, if I read it right |
| 04:30.24 | scanline | code like that could use a few comments :) |
| 04:31.05 | captain_proton | scanline: looks like its looping through the client's flags to make sure that the server knows about all of them |
| 04:31.17 | MrApathyCream | ok, ok, |
| 04:31.20 | MrApathyCream | working on it |
| 04:31.22 | captain_proton | though it should still compare active |
| 04:31.24 | scanline | then didn't it also do the reverse? |
| 04:31.44 | captain_proton | ah, it sets a flag |
| 04:31.50 | scanline | yep |
| 04:31.51 | captain_proton | then goes through and compares the flags |
| 04:31.57 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: that code sucks, fix it! ;) |
| 04:32.34 | TimRiker | should be comparing against the list of possible flags for this game. ie: perhaps no bad flags, and other forbidden flags. |
| 04:33.19 | TimRiker | captain_proton: not just active if random flags are generated. need all the possible flags. |
| 04:33.38 | captain_proton | TimRiker: when i say active, i mean flags potentially used in the current game |
| 04:33.50 | captain_proton | sorry if i was unclear |
| 04:34.17 | MrApathyCream | !flagDisallowed |
| 04:34.31 | scanline | yay |
| 04:34.46 | *** join/#bzflag Winky (~doug@cs242754-184.austin.rr.com) |
| 04:35.01 | TimRiker | captain_proton: cool. |
| 04:35.04 | Winky | Anybody here want to ban a TK? |
| 04:35.13 | TimRiker | Winky: server |
| 04:35.20 | Winky | Anybody with admin on ducati, sorry. |
| 04:35.29 | TimRiker | ~ducati |
| 04:35.50 | Winky | Ducati CTF, Is that 5156? |
| 04:35.52 | learner | eww... just got bunny to bus error on me |
| 04:35.56 | TimRiker | ~ducatictf |
| 04:35.58 | learner | ~d |
| 04:36.24 | captain_proton | scanline: are the green diamonds flags? |
| 04:36.24 | learner | ibot has been impressively slow all day.. |
| 04:36.25 | | learner: bugger all, i dunno |
| 04:36.49 | Winky | It's the guy with no name. |
| 04:36.56 | TimRiker | perhaps /me should throttle his rsyncs off ibot's server |
| 04:37.24 | learner | hi winky.. sry for the shots, was testing client |
| 04:37.26 | MrApathyCream | hmmm is it possible to do +f GM -f GM |
| 04:37.33 | MrApathyCream | yes... rats |
| 04:37.45 | scanline | captain_proton: well, they're supposed to be circles, but pygame's circles are rather lame :) |
| 04:37.53 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:37.54 | scanline | I just changed them to crosses in my code to match bzflag's radar |
| 04:38.04 | captain_proton | good deal |
| 04:38.06 | learner | uncase nobody has heard me say it yet.. chat is rather borked again |
| 04:38.10 | captain_proton | looks good |
| 04:38.13 | learner | no chat whatsoever |
| 04:38.22 | captain_proton | learner: yeah, scanline & i noticed that |
| 04:38.31 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (OverheadView.py): Make flags look like they're supposed to |
| 04:39.12 | Winky | tk's gone from ducati, thx. |
| 04:39.50 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (2 files): some BUGS are really TODOs |
| 04:40.38 | learner | er... winky != muffix |
| 04:40.40 | learner | never mind |
| 04:40.44 | learner | who's muffix |
| 04:40.57 | scanline | me |
| 04:41.18 | learner | ah mkay ;) sry to YOU for all the kills -- testing client :) |
| 04:41.29 | scanline | nah, if I want no killing I go to localhost |
| 04:42.03 | captain_proton | hmm, wow |
| 04:42.10 | captain_proton | i never noticed how close to square my pixels are |
| 04:42.30 | learner | lcd? |
| 04:42.38 | captain_proton | no |
| 04:44.25 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (OverheadView.py): Extend the dirty OverheadView.simpleClient() uses to redraw so that it limits the frame rate a bit more predictably. This needs to all be replaced by a proper system for attaching timers to the event loop. |
| 04:45.36 | scanline | hmm.. something removed my hack |
| 04:45.39 | scanline | s/dirty/dirty hack/ |
| 04:46.25 | TimRiker | ~ducatictf |
| 04:46.31 | TimRiker | ~ducatictf |
| 04:46.40 | TimRiker | well, a little anyway |
| 04:46.58 | learner | ~d |
| 04:47.06 | learner | better |
| 04:48.18 | TimRiker | so orange is green and green is red. hmm. |
| 04:48.51 | TimRiker | oh, orange is red too. oops |
| 04:49.58 | captain_proton | ...orange? |
| 04:50.38 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b Piggy!*@*.cable.wanadoo.nl] by TimRiker |
| 04:51.15 | TimRiker | captain_proton: playername on d |
| 04:51.32 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/include (5 files): yay for whitespace |
| 04:51.48 | captain_proton | ah |
| 04:52.44 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): always add new files to Makefile.am |
| 04:53.39 | learner | which 2 were those tim... |
| 04:54.38 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (3 files in 2 dirs): We handle all flag update messages now |
| 04:56.54 | captain_proton | learner: mediafile.h and headers in bzfs |
| 04:57.04 | learner | headers? |
| 04:57.09 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src (2 files in 2 dirs): Nego fixes Part1: allow client to have more: differentiate nego and timeout |
| 04:57.19 | learner | why should the headers be added? |
| 04:57.25 | learner | they're not public |
| 04:57.59 | TimRiker | learner: mediafile and the new ones in bzfs |
| 04:58.15 | TimRiker | "make dist" will only tar up what's been added |
| 04:58.19 | MrApathyCream | So a flag is in the game if |
| 04:58.19 | MrApathyCream | (1) It is in the +f set - flagCount array |
| 04:58.19 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.19 | MrApathyCream | (2) -s > 0 and it is not in the -f set - flagDisallowed array |
| 04:58.19 | MrApathyCream | correct? |
| 04:58.42 | learner | right.. so then it shouldn't need the bzfs headers.. they're private headers |
| 04:59.05 | TimRiker | learner: they would not be distributed? |
| 04:59.23 | learner | aren't all distributed headers supposed to go into include/? |
| 04:59.37 | TimRiker | all source is distributed. |
| 04:59.47 | learner | ah.......... |
| 04:59.53 | learner | source dist |
| 04:59.57 | learner | nvr mind |
| 05:00.02 | TimRiker | "make dist" makes a source tarball, yes. ;-) |
| 05:01.53 | captain_proton | learner: are you implying that we have a public api? ;) |
| 05:02.01 | learner | lol, silly me |
| 05:05.20 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (2 files in 2 dirs): Placeholder for code to update flags' flight paths |
| 05:05.33 | scanline | bedtime, methinks |
| 05:05.59 | captain_proton | 'night scanline |
| 05:06.03 | scanline | g'night |
| 05:07.27 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (Game.py): Oops. typo. good night... |
| 05:15.39 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (30 files in 5 dirs): whitespace wars |
| 05:15.44 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src (22 files in 10 dirs): whitespace wars |
| 05:15.45 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* |
| 05:15.59 | captain_proton | eek |
| 05:16.12 | learner | wow, if those commit would have been separated... just think of the rating tomorrow |
| 05:16.17 | learner | :) |
| 05:17.23 | TimRiker | I got sick of <space><tab> so I searched and replaced. (note that the remaining ones are _required_) |
| 05:18.16 | captain_proton | ah |
| 05:18.27 | captain_proton | so mine may still be valid |
| 05:18.33 | captain_proton | since i was eliminating trailing whitespace |
| 05:19.05 | MrApathyCream | *sigh**sigh* |
| 05:19.12 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: ? |
| 05:19.15 | MrApathyCream | some of us have 17K modems, ya know |
| 05:19.24 | learner | heh |
| 05:19.25 | captain_proton | aww, poor mac |
| 05:21.43 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src (30 files in 8 dirs): my whitespace is whiter than yours! |
| 05:23.10 | learner | I'm proud to say that I haven't touched any of the changed files :) |
| 05:24.29 | MrApathyCream | i see you fixed the drawing code captain_proton yay! |
| 05:25.32 | MrApathyCream | bzfs has made it to 1.200 |
| 05:26.09 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: well those two changes make the source smaller. so you should be happy. ;-) |
| 05:26.19 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:26.36 | MrApathyCream | if only i didn't have to merge bzfs.cxx 3 times in a row before checkin |
| 05:28.03 | MrApathyCream | It's good to know you boys are workin' on the tough problems. |
| 05:28.14 | captain_proton | =} |
| 05:28.32 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): Nego fixes Part2: Only require that clients have flags actively in the game |
| 05:28.43 | captain_proton | yay |
| 05:31.45 | MrApathyCream | poings? |
| 05:32.09 | MrApathyCream | learner: ru done with the bzfs dismantleing? |
| 05:32.23 | learner | for now |
| 05:32.23 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (25 files in 16 dirs): whitespace wars part 2 |
| 05:32.56 | learner | the last one is the world class, but it's unfortunately tied to some global variables |
| 05:33.06 | learner | s/class/classes/ |
| 05:34.09 | MrApathyCream | make a bzfs.h with externs |
| 05:34.24 | MrApathyCream | There's all that Authorization stuff too |
| 05:37.52 | learner | the global, in this case, really appears unnecessary -- should be easy enough to decouple properly and get rid of the global |
| 05:43.57 | *** part/#bzflag eddienull (~kevin@adsl-63-195-130-242.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 05:45.33 | *** join/#bzflag eddienull (~kevin@adsl-63-195-130-242.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 05:47.31 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): minor problem with DIST_SUBDIRS |
| 05:53.29 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/platform (Makefile.am): src/platform/MacOSX/ as debian/ et. al. |
| 06:02.43 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (2 files): alright, it's a bug |
| 06:03.18 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (18 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:03.19 | CIA | argh, now that my editor boldinates trailing whitespace I feel obligated |
| 06:03.19 | CIA | to fix it |
| 06:04.42 | learner | cia borked? |
| 06:04.47 | captain_proton | shouldn't be |
| 06:06.44 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12pybzflag/ (list.py): oop, missed one |
| 06:06.52 | TimRiker | captain_proton: so how come you didn't catch all the [space|tab]$ ? |
| 06:07.04 | TimRiker | ;-) |
| 06:07.17 | captain_proton | TimRiker: this only catches whitespace at the end of a line |
| 06:13.37 | captain_proton | argh |
| 06:13.37 | TimRiker | that's what that regex does too. |
| 06:13.44 | captain_proton | odd |
| 06:13.53 | captain_proton | i need screens that have a thinner screeny bit |
| 06:14.07 | TimRiker | does it capture ^[space|tab]*$ |
| 06:15.15 | captain_proton | i have vim set to highlight /\s\+$/ |
| 06:15.34 | captain_proton | and it was seeming to catch those |
| 06:15.40 | TimRiker | so what's up with msging in cvs? |
| 06:16.09 | captain_proton | msging in cvs? you mean MsgMessage & severe borkedness? |
| 06:16.15 | TimRiker | vim will do that all the time? in a different color than hlsearch? how? |
| 06:16.24 | TimRiker | yes |
| 06:16.43 | captain_proton | highlight WhitespaceEOL ctermbg=red guibg=red |
| 06:16.43 | captain_proton | match WhitespaceEOL /\s\+$/ |
| 06:16.49 | captain_proton | ^^^ vimrc fodder |
| 06:18.06 | MrApathyCream | MsgMessage used to work before whitespace was removed |
| 06:18.11 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:18.16 | captain_proton | no, i think it did not |
| 06:20.04 | captain_proton | eek |
| 06:20.17 | captain_proton | never do alt+10000 and then a letter in bash =) |
| 06:21.25 | TimRiker | hmm. can't put those lines in global vimrc though. humph |
| 06:21.48 | captain_proton | TimRiker: can't? |
| 06:22.11 | TimRiker | not on my box. seems to work on : but not in global vimrc |
| 06:23.18 | captain_proton | what about in ~/.vimrc? |
| 06:23.37 | TimRiker | ahh... needs to be after the autosyntax stuff. moving to EOF worked. |
| 06:25.25 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (Makefile.am): Break out Permissions code from bzfs |
| 06:25.38 | TimRiker | hmm... actually looks like it needs to be after xterm hacks. |
| 06:26.21 | TimRiker | works now. thanx! |
| 06:26.37 | captain_proton | map <C-N> <ESC>:n <CR> |
| 06:26.37 | captain_proton | map <C-P> <ESC>:prev <CR> |
| 06:27.24 | TimRiker | c-p could be :N no? |
| 06:28.23 | captain_proton | could be |
| 06:28.43 | TimRiker | right now c-p and c-n just do up/down, yes? |
| 06:29.01 | captain_proton | c-p and c-n aren't bound by default, iirc |
| 06:29.09 | captain_proton | :N = :prev |
| 06:30.06 | TimRiker | here they do j/k down/up |
| 06:30.41 | *** part/#bzflag eddienull (~kevin@adsl-63-195-130-242.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 06:30.54 | TimRiker | here == debian unstable (remotely, so really it's not even "here") |
| 06:31.21 | captain_proton | ah, its possible |
| 06:31.37 | captain_proton | seems silly to use a modifier key when j/k are there |
| 06:31.48 | TimRiker | looks like rh does c-[np] for u/d too |
| 06:32.35 | TimRiker | c-n n c-n n ... sounds useful. ;-) |
| 06:33.38 | TimRiker | got it browsing the web yet? jk |
| 06:33.39 | captain_proton | and it all started when gentoo got rid of 'set title' from the global vimrc and i had to look it up |
| 06:33.58 | captain_proton | well there is a plugin to edit files over ftp... :) |
| 06:34.18 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/win32 (bzfs.dsp): Split out Permissions from bzfs |
| 06:35.29 | TimRiker | I use the scp: format from time to time. |
| 06:37.14 | captain_proton | hm, whats that do? |
| 06:37.37 | TimRiker | lets right/left continue past line start/end |
| 06:37.38 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (2 files): add copyright, ex: instructions |
| 06:38.26 | TimRiker | : it and try it out |
| 06:39.03 | captain_proton | whoa thats creepy |
| 06:40.50 | TimRiker | yeah, much better than a speaker beep any day. |
| 06:41.23 | TimRiker | Permissions.cxx:18:19: istream: No such file or directory |
| 06:41.31 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* |
| 06:41.53 | TimRiker | Permissions.cxx:22:17: MD5.h: No such file or directory |
| 06:42.02 | learner | I see someone else is joining in the bzfs.cxx separation fun... |
| 06:43.01 | captain_proton | well i have beeps turned off |
| 06:43.05 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (Permissions.cxx): remove istream |
| 06:43.07 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 06:43.59 | MrApathyCream | ug, includes are case sens too? |
| 06:44.01 | MrApathyCream | shees |
| 06:44.24 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (Permissions.cxx): you'd think more OS's would care about case |
| 06:45.38 | MrApathyCream | wow, i wish i could include MD5.h and md5.h on win32, alas, i am crippled |
| 06:46.21 | MrApathyCream | learner: it's a craze... well, that and whitespace cleanup |
| 06:47.22 | captain_proton | yay for whitespace |
| 06:47.49 | MrApathyCream | Useless ;) |
| 06:50.21 | *** join/#bzflag helio (~helio@pD958D371.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:52.08 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: why? |
| 06:52.24 | MrApathyCream | no... -- just noticed the Useless flag |
| 06:52.36 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: as in [mM][dD]5.h ? |
| 06:54.04 | captain_proton | TimRiker: he's sad because for him, MD5.h and md5.h are the same file |
| 06:54.28 | MrApathyCream | yes, if only i could name files the same except for capitalization |
| 06:54.35 | MrApathyCream | that would really be useful |
| 06:54.59 | captain_proton | =} |
| 06:56.53 | MrApathyCream | learner: is your server upto-upto date, now? |
| 06:56.54 | TimRiker | different contents, both used in the build. |
| 06:57.22 | MrApathyCream | nice |
| 06:58.14 | MrApathyCream | Error File: MaKEfILe Line: 305 |
| 06:59.30 | MrApathyCream | welp, time for sleep, /me awaits news of the ship date |
| 07:00.30 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 07:00.39 | captain_proton | perhaps the server cache stuff shouldn't all reside in menus.cxx |
| 07:02.17 | TimRiker | hehe. perhaps. |
| 07:02.44 | TimRiker | need a cache manager. should have ~/.bzflag/cache and ~/.bzflag/config probably. |
| 07:03.07 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (TODO): another TODO |
| 07:03.33 | captain_proton | yeah - there are two kinds of caching right now |
| 07:03.49 | captain_proton | world file caching is extensible to whatever other media comes in the future |
| 07:03.49 | captain_proton | server list caching is not |
| 07:03.54 | TimRiker | convert one to cashing and we'd all be happy. |
| 07:04.06 | captain_proton | har |
| 07:04.55 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): more bzdb |
| 07:09.12 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): callsign to bzdb |
| 07:11.16 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): port to bzdb |
| 07:11.45 | captain_proton | TimRiker: are we waiting until after next sat to rip out multicast? =) |
| 07:15.05 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (TODO): couple TODO items re: bzdb |
| 07:16.01 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): gamma to bzdb |
| 07:25.44 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): which argument is it anyway? |
| 07:27.19 | TimRiker | captain_proton: no. rip away if you want to. |
| 07:28.30 | TimRiker | ~bzflist xmission.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 07:28.43 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery xmission.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 07:29.07 | TimRiker | so any g0 folk want to try the new cvs xmission server? |
| 07:29.53 | captain_proton | g0? |
| 07:30.28 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): doing my small part to get rid of multicast |
| 07:32.45 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/include (.cvsignore): ignore autogenerated headers |
| 07:34.34 | TimRiker | yeah. hmm... bad flag times are borken |
| 07:34.46 | TimRiker | coming? |
| 07:35.07 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 07:37.38 | TimRiker | I set up a server on xmission |
| 07:38.52 | captain_proton | what version? |
| 07:38.55 | TimRiker | cvs |
| 07:39.40 | captain_proton | hang on, lemme build |
| 07:40.07 | captain_proton | ok, i'm there |
| 07:40.36 | captain_proton | running -c? |
| 07:40.50 | captain_proton | oh wait, bunny |
| 07:42.11 | captain_proton | hmm, come over by me - is the world supposed to have this? |
| 07:44.22 | captain_proton | shake time supposed to be that long? |
| 07:46.49 | TimRiker | nope. options are about the same as the other xmission. |
| 07:46.59 | TimRiker | some arguments are borked. |
| 07:47.03 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): joystick to bzdb |
| 07:47.12 | captain_proton | i was seeing a 1600 second shake time |
| 07:47.25 | TimRiker | also things like "depth buffer" and "mouse box size" do not get saved |
| 07:47.30 | TimRiker | yeah, me too. |
| 07:47.44 | captain_proton | nice chunk of time |
| 07:48.02 | TimRiker | an server list shows 200 max players, but I've set it to hmm.... 20 I think. |
| 07:48.40 | TimRiker | what did you want to show me? the inverted pyramids? |
| 07:48.58 | TimRiker | also are you getting rendering artifacts? I can see through some building some times. |
| 07:49.13 | TimRiker | ie: hidden buildings get drawn later and show up. |
| 07:49.15 | captain_proton | some of the pyramids were sticking up through the floor of the platform |
| 07:49.18 | captain_proton | not sure if thats intentional |
| 07:49.42 | TimRiker | it's not. thats cause the map file has a -z and that get's chucked at present. |
| 07:49.55 | captain_proton | aha |
| 07:50.07 | captain_proton | the drawing could possibly be a result of the bzdb migration |
| 07:50.26 | captain_proton | i haven't yet set up callbacks for changing graphics options, so some things may not be initializing properly |
| 07:50.35 | TimRiker | ok. |
| 07:50.42 | captain_proton | but thats just a guess |
| 07:51.18 | captain_proton | rendering bugs started showing up at that approximate time |
| 07:52.08 | captain_proton | strangely enough, much more severly on windows than linux |
| 07:56.13 | TimRiker | need to stop those out. but I gotta sleep. |
| 07:56.53 | TimRiker | interface is still needed |
| 07:57.05 | captain_proton | interface? |
| 07:57.05 | TimRiker | not for multicast, but for multihomed hosts. |
| 07:57.10 | captain_proton | oh |
| 07:57.11 | captain_proton | blah |
| 07:57.30 | TimRiker | so put it back. ;-) |
| 07:57.34 | captain_proton | fine fine |
| 07:59.26 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): /dev/dsp* |
| 08:00.00 | TimRiker | nite |
| 08:02.07 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): put interface back for multihomed hosts |
| 08:06.30 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): quality to bzdb |
| 08:10.06 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): couple more random settings to bzdb |
| 08:11.02 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-118-173.hispeed.ch) |
| 08:12.32 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): panel opacity to bzdb |
| 08:20.21 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): radar size to bzdb |
| 08:59.18 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-209-1-13-36.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
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| 09:08.01 | bomber_ | moin |
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| 11:47.04 | *** part/#bzflag hhommers (~hhommers@fw-nl.baan.nl) |
| 11:47.25 | *** join/#bzflag Chestal (thilo@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) |
| 11:47.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
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| 14:12.01 | Chestal | hi be. What are you doing in here? |
| 14:13.52 | BeZee | just looking who is here |
| 14:43.20 | Chestal | hi proton. Can there ever be enough sleep? |
| 14:43.33 | Chestal | what's the status of bzdb? Still some things missing? |
| 14:43.39 | captain_proton | yep |
| 14:43.45 | captain_proton | its mostly complete |
| 14:45.13 | Chestal | I will try to run it (but onyl after making a backup of my 1.7 config file :-) |
| 14:45.16 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): two more gui options into bzdb |
| 14:47.13 | Chestal | hmm, the client automatically changes the team for a shot rabbit to rogue |
| 14:47.18 | Chestal | I guess that should better be removed |
| 14:48.30 | Chestal | thoughts? |
| 14:49.18 | captain_proton | are we sure that having the server set teams for everything works correctly? |
| 14:49.37 | Chestal | well, whenever the rabbit changes, the server sends MsgNewRabbit |
| 14:49.53 | Chestal | right now, when I am the only player and kill myself, my client will make me rogue |
| 14:50.02 | Chestal | but server doesn't send MsgNewRabbit because it doesn't change |
| 14:50.20 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): ok, silenced players are in the new config file. time for coffee |
| 14:50.22 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 14:50.24 | Chestal | < mouseboxsize -1.997467 |
| 14:50.37 | Chestal | created by 1.9 |
| 14:50.45 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 14:51.51 | Chestal | radarsize seems to work now |
| 14:52.06 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): mouseboxsize is an int! |
| 14:54.28 | captain_proton | hows that work |
| 14:54.39 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): client does not try to be clever anymore, only change the rabbit when server tells us to (fixes no more rabbit problem with suicide on an otherwise empty server) |
| 14:56.47 | Chestal | mousebox works |
| 14:56.51 | Chestal | but I still become rogue, hmm |
| 14:57.15 | captain_proton | when you die as rabbit, your client sends MsgNewRabbit, no? |
| 14:57.22 | captain_proton | then the server should try to set a new one |
| 14:58.11 | Chestal | no, it sohuldn't |
| 14:58.15 | Chestal | it's all handled by the server |
| 14:58.19 | Chestal | client only sends it when pausing |
| 14:58.22 | captain_proton | i didn't think so |
| 14:58.23 | Chestal | will debug it |
| 14:58.45 | Chestal | my box is too slow |
| 14:59.04 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 14:59.13 | Chestal | maybe I should do debug builds, I wonder how much gettign rid of -O2 would speed things up |
| 14:59.14 | captain_proton | i guess that is the case |
| 14:59.54 | Chestal | please think of a good name for annointNewRabbit() |
| 15:00.05 | captain_proton | i think thats a perfect name |
| 15:00.06 | captain_proton | =} |
| 15:00.08 | Chestal | argls |
| 15:00.21 | Chestal | it's not even spelt correctly, or is it? |
| 15:00.26 | Chestal | ~spell annoint |
| 15:00.28 | | possible spellings for annoint: anoint anoints anointer anent Antoine appoint amount anion Antoni unmount announce anointed anon Antony anions |
| 15:00.35 | captain_proton | heh |
| 15:00.40 | captain_proton | ~dist anoint |
| 15:00.48 | captain_proton | dist? |
| 15:00.53 | captain_proton | ~dict anoint |
| 15:00.58 | Chestal | not that it is a word that's really part of my vocabulary |
| 15:01.54 | Chestal | hmm, I only receive MsgNewRabbit once when I join, but still I get rogue when I die |
| 15:02.31 | Chestal | ah |
| 15:02.32 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): spelling error |
| 15:03.07 | Chestal | that should have read "speling error" :-) |
| 15:04.19 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): I will stay rabbit even when I die (unless told otherwise) |
| 15:04.20 | Chestal | we need a rabbit sound |
| 15:04.25 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 15:04.28 | captain_proton | they don't make many sounds |
| 15:04.36 | captain_proton | you mean instead of the beep or instead of jaws? :) |
| 15:04.37 | Chestal | I only used the current beep-beep because it was there |
| 15:04.41 | learner | the rabbit's getting greased up for the chase |
| 15:04.48 | Chestal | I mean when I become the rabbit |
| 15:05.40 | Chestal | waah, I still become rogue |
| 15:05.43 | Chestal | is there no end to this |
| 15:06.22 | Chestal | hmm, strange |
| 15:06.56 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src (4 files in 4 dirs): shut up shut up |
| 15:08.21 | Chestal | hurah, it works. Looks like for some reason it didn't recompile |
| 15:09.18 | captain_proton | heh |
| 15:10.18 | Chestal | what are all these whitespace changes? |
| 15:10.28 | *** join/#bzflag Michaelh (Mouse@171-30.dynamic.visi.com) |
| 15:11.07 | Michaelh | anyone ever heard of AMM associates? |
| 15:11.07 | Michaelh | http://www.ammassociates.com/ |
| 15:11.54 | Michaelh | is this just a address harvester? :( |
| 15:12.27 | captain_proton | Michaelh: eh - looks like a generic headhunter |
| 15:12.57 | Chestal | while glancing at the backlog I saw multicast mentioned. Has it been removed yet? |
| 15:13.25 | captain_proton | Chestal: no |
| 15:14.00 | Chestal | there's still code for relayign etc. in there |
| 15:14.05 | captain_proton | yep |
| 15:14.07 | Chestal | but we agreed to rip it off? |
| 15:14.08 | captain_proton | feel free to rip |
| 15:14.30 | Chestal | do we want to keep the option of TCP only in there? |
| 15:14.40 | captain_proton | for now, i think so |
| 15:14.42 | Chestal | I think I'm not quite satisfied with the initial UDP handshake |
| 15:14.47 | captain_proton | especially since tim needs it :) |
| 15:17.06 | Chestal | ifI understand it correctly, server starts to use UDP as soon as it has received the first UDP packet from the client, so it knows the port (because of NAT) |
| 15:17.35 | Chestal | the first UDP packet sent will probably be MsgPlayerUpdate after a respawn |
| 15:17.36 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 15:17.47 | Chestal | so that would mean it's all TCP up to that point |
| 15:17.53 | Chestal | especially for Observers |
| 15:18.44 | Chestal | a special handshake message sent by the client would be better |
| 15:18.46 | captain_proton | well |
| 15:18.59 | Chestal | it coudl include the palyerid which would make server-side guessing unnecessary |
| 15:19.10 | captain_proton | i haven't checked if it will send udp to clients after MsgUDPLinkRequest |
| 15:19.35 | captain_proton | i know that it waits until the first udp packet to set the port |
| 15:20.31 | Chestal | yes, and it tries a fuzzy match when no exact match can be found (IP only opposed to IP/Port) |
| 15:20.45 | Chestal | which can fail when several players behind the same router join at about the same time |
| 15:21.01 | Chestal | but well, I guess this can wait after we discussed what we want to do with the protocol |
| 15:21.16 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 15:22.25 | Chestal | ok, back to evaluating the programming assignments. 8 times 'zero points' this time :-) |
| 15:24.20 | captain_proton | heh |
| 15:25.05 | captain_proton | Chestal, the EVIL GRADING MACHINE |
| 15:25.24 | Chestal | actually, I am _far_ too nice |
| 15:25.38 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 15:26.06 | Chestal | but I received almost this almost identical solution from about 15 students, so I put them all on a list for a personal talk |
| 15:26.17 | Chestal | and 8 of them still haven't been here, and that's after 2 weeks now |
| 15:27.16 | captain_proton | eep |
| 15:28.06 | captain_proton | yeah, in that case i'd be handing out zeros too |
| 15:32.01 | captain_proton | we call up jupiter systems tech support about a failing piece of hardware, and they tell us we're out of warranty |
| 15:32.23 | captain_proton | but we have a good chance to make a deal, since they desperately want to feature us as a "success story" |
| 15:33.06 | Chestal | do you feel successful? :-) |
| 15:34.09 | captain_proton | not at the moment |
| 15:34.13 | captain_proton | it keeps rebooting itself :) |
| 15:43.48 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): server cache age to bzdb |
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| 16:09.04 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.cxx): colors to new config |
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| 16:29.37 | Merry | Is Noodleman here? |
| 16:29.53 | Merry | oh, hi Pattyo! |
| 16:30.25 | Merry | Nope he's not, does anyone know how to get a password back from sats? |
| 16:30.31 | Merry | stats* |
| 16:31.01 | Merry | hello? nm |
| 16:31.02 | Merry | bye |
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| 17:12.29 | daBomb | hi |
| 17:15.10 | daBomb | hi? |
| 17:17.05 | fiberchunks | hi |
| 17:19.23 | sussudio | lo pigbomb |
| 17:20.24 | stibnite | sussudio: I'm getting complaints that you are insulting people on hashmark |
| 17:20.28 | daBomb | i hate those pigbombs |
| 17:20.38 | daBomb | ;) |
| 17:20.43 | sussudio | stibnite: EXCUSE ME? |
| 17:20.57 | stibnite | i try to, but there have been several complaints |
| 17:21.06 | sussudio | from whom, exactly? |
| 17:21.28 | sussudio | wouldn't be LUB0, would it? |
| 17:21.29 | sussudio | [Lub0 ()PZ->] fuk u wanker |
| 17:21.31 | stibnite | from enough people whom I won't name to make it pretty obvious that the claims are true. |
| 17:21.36 | sussudio | [Lub0 ()PZ->] u die u piece of shit |
| 17:21.44 | david_v | uhhhh |
| 17:22.02 | sussudio | i call bullcrap. |
| 17:22.12 | stibnite | fair enough |
| 17:22.16 | david_v | sure, nice of you to paste some insults here as well |
| 17:22.37 | prot-work | sussudio: try to keep it pg13 :P |
| 17:22.54 | sussudio | prot-work: do you think lub0 has reached that age yet? |
| 17:23.23 | prot-work | sussudio: i don't care, i don't want that language here |
| 17:24.04 | sussudio | prot-work: i don't want it in my message window either |
| 17:24.19 | prot-work | sussudio: so use SILENCE |
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| 18:12.50 | Patlabor221 | wow I am like out of real work |
| 18:13.24 | fiberchunks | lo Patlabor221 |
| 18:19.35 | learnerAtWork | you can do my work now.. ;) |
| 18:23.02 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 18:25.44 | Patlabor221 | I don't think I'm cleared for your work |
| 18:26.00 | TimRiker | well work on bzf then. ;-) |
| 18:26.00 | fiberchunks | learnerAtWork> you could pass it off to me, however ;) |
| 18:26.00 | learnerAtWork | oh I can find something for you to do |
| 18:26.19 | learnerAtWork | heh :) |
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| 18:29.47 | Patlabor221 | my dad has a TS, I may be able to get one, but it takes a year or so dosn't it? |
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| 18:31.05 | learnerAtWork | TS is a TLA that I DNK |
| 18:31.45 | fiberchunks | Top Secret -- and it takes about 1.5 years |
| 18:32.12 | Patlabor221 | yeah he's had his for a long time, he wants to retire, but they don't want him to |
| 18:32.21 | Patlabor221 | cus it takes so long to get somone in there to replace him |
| 18:32.22 | fiberchunks | same with my father |
| 18:32.25 | fiberchunks | right |
| 18:33.49 | Michaelh | so he works for the defense industry then? |
| 18:33.59 | learnerAtWork | ah.. *that* TS .. heh, I should pay better attention |
| 18:34.35 | Michaelh | or are you not at liberty to divulge that information? |
| 18:35.11 | Michaelh | ane1 |
| 18:35.13 | fiberchunks | the statistics on how many of us 'regular' bz'ers are involved in the defense industry would be interesting i think |
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| 18:35.44 | Michaelh | esp. if they work on tanks |
| 18:35.45 | Michaelh | :) |
| 18:35.55 | learnerAtWork | fiberchunks: :) |
| 18:36.20 | fiberchunks | anyone got a plate compactor I can borrow for a week or so? |
| 18:37.18 | Michaelh | need new dishes? |
| 18:37.29 | fiberchunks | lol -- no, for my patio |
| 18:37.44 | Michaelh | ah so |
| 18:37.53 | prot-work | yay i'm back |
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| 19:06.21 | TimRiker | what cgi-irc applet do folk recommend these days? |
| 19:09.42 | sussudio | cgiirc.sourceforge.net? :-P |
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| 19:28.10 | sussi | hi |
| 19:28.24 | sussi | ndavid we are on ducati 5156 |
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| 19:33.33 | learnerAtWork | wow, two zeebros in one day |
| 19:34.22 | FantaZee | asdf? |
| 19:36.09 | learnerAtWork | he was here last night |
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| 20:05.49 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: What loss of readability are you wondering about? |
| 20:06.01 | prot-work | Mayhem: hrm...that is kind of really hard to read :) |
| 20:06.53 | prot-work | i guess its better than the ascii art |
| 20:07.16 | JBDiGriz | Methinks I'm missing a new document somewhere, where's the zen master for enlightenment? |
| 20:07.34 | Mayhem | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress_2fNetworkProtocol |
| 20:08.38 | Mayhem | prot-work: the ascii art provides a visual representation, methinks that helps a lot. |
| 20:08.54 | Mayhem | especially when using it to understand packet captures |
| 20:09.05 | prot-work | Mayhem: eh - thats what i was thinking, until i realized that it doesn't help all that much |
| 20:11.54 | Mayhem | I find I'm often counting bytes x bytes into the packet, perhaps a size next to each type (eg. float (4)) would be good. |
| 20:12.10 | JBDiGriz | I didn't realize you were talking about the table in the beginning. |
| 20:12.31 | prot-work | Mayhem: well - maybe an offset from the beginning |
| 20:12.39 | JBDiGriz | I prefer the ASCII are which gives some relative indication of size, otherwise, I start creating my own charts. |
| 20:12.51 | JBDiGriz | s/are/art/ |
| 20:13.07 | prot-work | so for the flag status, add a column with 0, 2, 4, 6, 7, 11, 15... |
| 20:13.18 | Mayhem | prot-work: yes, thats a possibility |
| 20:13.32 | prot-work | ideal would be to just create an ethereal plugin :) |
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| 20:14.06 | Mayhem | prot-work: I have considered that :) |
| 20:14.07 | learnerAtWork | that wouldn't be "ideal" cap :P |
| 20:14.12 | prot-work | yay, we have both TimRiker & BZFlag here |
| 20:14.17 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: why not? :) |
| 20:14.38 | learnerAtWork | do they have a lynx plugin ? :) |
| 20:14.41 | prot-work | or even better - autogenerate a plugin from the protocol doc! |
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| 20:16.51 | prot-work | well tim was suggesting we figure out a way to suck the protocol doc into doxygen |
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| 20:17.00 | prot-work | which may be possible after the network reorg |
| 20:17.27 | learnerAtWork | cap, have you worked with ethereal? what's the cpu load? |
| 20:18.04 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: pretty minimal - most of the actual capture-time stuff is done via tcpdump |
| 20:18.12 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 20:23.13 | Mayhem | Don't need to worry about easy editing, just get some minion (eg. me) to keep them updated :) |
| 20:23.59 | learnerAtWork | ~dict minion |
| 20:24.11 | learnerAtWork | ~dict fawning |
| 20:24.19 | learnerAtWork | heheheh |
| 20:27.54 | Mayhem | Ahh, takes me back to the good ol' C64 days |
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| 20:45.59 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add KeyManager to build |
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| 21:39.23 | JBDiGriz | Patlabor221: Have you set up an enet connection? |
| 21:39.48 | Patlabor221 | I am coding it all up now |
| 21:40.02 | prot-work | Patlabor221: you should add KeyManager.(h|cxx) to the build |
| 21:40.06 | Patlabor221 | is it just a way to break up the messages to a peer? |
| 21:40.19 | JBDiGriz | I have a client which sees the server, but the server never receives a connection event. |
| 21:40.45 | Patlabor221 | I am not at the point of running yet, I'm just hooking it into the net lib |
| 21:40.46 | JBDiGriz | That's what it looks like, you can separate out reliable/unreliable packets to the server. |
| 21:42.08 | Patlabor221 | actualy I think it can be an arbitrary split |
| 21:42.11 | Chestal | automake 1.7 complains for me: |
| 21:42.12 | Chestal | src/platform/Makefile.am:70: SUBDIRS must be set with `=' before using `+=' |
| 21:42.13 | Chestal | src/platform/Makefile.am:81: DIST_SUBDIRS must be set with `=' before using `+=' |
| 21:42.16 | JBDiGriz | Then again, the reliable bit is per packet, so I'm still debugging. |
| 21:42.34 | Patlabor221 | the enet API is soo clean tho , I love it |
| 21:43.09 | JBDiGriz | It looks good, but the docs are sparse. |
| 21:43.14 | Patlabor221 | yeah they are |
| 21:43.50 | JBDiGriz | I'm wondering if underneath that API is a rats nest which we discover while coding! |
| 21:43.54 | Patlabor221 | but it looks like it's gonna work fine with my client management API |
| 21:44.04 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 21:45.22 | Patlabor221 | you have the code take a look |
| 21:46.31 | JBDiGriz | That's what I'm playing with. I was just wondering if you had made it beyond where I was. |
| 21:46.50 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/win32 (common.dsp): By my dark master's will, I add these files as a sacrifice. |
| 21:46.52 | Patlabor221 | I have my own net API, I am just hooking it up into that |
| 21:49.15 | prot-work | Patlabor221: i'm your dark master? |
| 21:49.29 | Patlabor221 | pfffft no :) |
| 21:49.55 | Patlabor221 | we are all just Loth's food. |
| 21:52.08 | Patlabor221 | cap, is a channel just a way to split up data to a peer? |
| 21:52.18 | Chestal | someone fix the automake bug above please, and do it fast :-) |
| 21:52.18 | prot-work | Patlabor221: yes |
| 21:52.21 | Patlabor221 | like send shots on channel1, chat in channel2 |
| 21:52.22 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 21:52.26 | prot-work | Chestal: automake bug? |
| 21:52.31 | Patlabor221 | that's what I thought, just can't see it in the doc |
| 21:52.34 | Chestal | prot-work: look 20 line above |
| 21:53.49 | prot-work | Chestal: try changing from += to =? |
| 21:54.20 | Chestal | prot: well, I didn#t want to mess with it because I'm rather clueless, didn#t want to break something |
| 21:54.35 | Chestal | must have been introduced yesterday or so |
| 21:54.46 | prot-work | Chestal: eh, change it and let the osx clowns fix it if it breaks them ;) |
| 21:56.04 | learnerAtWork | hey, I heard that |
| 21:57.04 | Chestal | hmm, not today, I'm about to go to bed, jsut wanted to do a quick compile. Must get up early tomorrow and teach students about networks :-| |
| 21:58.00 | learnerAtWork | as in "what you need to do to get a job" or "icmp packets over copper wire"? |
| 21:59.08 | learnerAtWork | anyone look into why chat is borked again yet? |
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| 21:59.39 | Chestal | learner: tomorrow is more or less: how we could design our own RPC protocol |
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| 22:00.36 | sussudio | cheating is rampant on xmission |
| 22:01.19 | learnerAtWork | Chestal: what's the course title? |
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| 22:02.28 | learnerAtWork | looks like the californians are having some trouble?? |
| 22:02.40 | sussudio | learnerAtWork: how's that new? |
| 22:02.41 | Chestal | learner: Rechnernetze (computer networks) |
| 22:02.43 | fiberchunks | what's new ;) |
| 22:03.21 | JBDiGriz_ | It's actually the rest of the country that's having trouble, we're trying to fix it without bothering you! ;-) |
| 22:03.32 | learnerAtWork | :-) |
| 22:04.54 | prot-work | wow...folding owns me |
| 22:07.21 | Patlabor221 | what are we having troubles with? |
| 22:08.36 | learnerAtWork | netzprobleme |
| 22:09.15 | CIA | 03mrvacbob * 12infinityserver/ (ProtocolHandlers.cpp): Removing an unused variable from MainProtocolHandler |
| 22:09.27 | prot-work | huh? |
| 22:09.34 | prot-work | infinityserver? |
| 22:09.53 | Patlabor221 | wtf is that? |
| 22:09.54 | prot-work | ohh |
| 22:10.07 | prot-work | some CIA user who copied our script but neglected to change the project name |
| 22:10.09 | Patlabor221 | dude VacBobs rock! |
| 22:10.25 | Patlabor221 | tell him "thank god it's you! |
| 22:10.59 | CIA | 03mrvacbob * 12CVSROOT/ (ciabot.pl): Perhaps I should have done something more than just copy the script |
| 22:11.22 | Patlabor221 | naw just shoot em, tha'ts what they are used to |
| 22:11.48 | Patlabor221 | you would know that if you had played the ONE TRUE Mac game |
| 22:12.10 | learnerAtWork | lol.. marathon? |
| 22:12.15 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 22:12.17 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:13.40 | JBDiGriz | It would probably run in Classic. |
| 22:13.42 | learnerAtWork | under classic, afaik |
| 22:13.45 | Patlabor221 | probably |
| 22:14.00 | Patlabor221 | tho there is a OSX native version of Aleph1 |
| 22:14.16 | Patlabor221 | wonder how they are doin |
| 22:14.20 | learnerAtWork | hmmm.. yes http://sourceforge.net/projects/marathon/ |
| 22:15.02 | Patlabor221 | they got net working well finaly |
| 22:15.39 | Patlabor221 | interesting no linux build for it |
| 22:15.56 | Patlabor221 | last linux one was sept of 2001 |
| 22:16.30 | learnerAtWork | guys have their priorities strait at least :) |
| 22:17.12 | Patlabor221 | yeah mac has allways been there big thing |
| 22:17.24 | learnerAtWork | until last year |
| 22:17.29 | Patlabor221 | tho they JUST got internet working, noone wanted to work on it for a long time |
| 22:18.02 | Patlabor221 | not bad for a GL accerated raycaster :) |
| 22:18.52 | Patlabor221 | actualy not even a real racaster, just raycaster-ish |
| 22:19.35 | Patlabor221 | it's where I got my 2.5d portal engine idea from |
| 22:20.09 | Patlabor221 | played it A LOT |
| 22:20.13 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 22:20.15 | Patlabor221 | my first real computer was a mac |
| 22:20.25 | Patlabor221 | learned C and C++ on the mac |
| 22:20.30 | learnerAtWork | ouch |
| 22:20.49 | learnerAtWork | mpw? |
| 22:20.56 | Patlabor221 | I still think codewarior is a good IDE :) |
| 22:21.09 | JBDiGriz | it's better than mpw! |
| 22:21.12 | Patlabor221 | some |
| 22:21.12 | Patlabor221 | we still use that here for our res |
| 22:21.13 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 22:21.36 | Patlabor221 | codewarrior rocked |
| 22:21.42 | learnerAtWork | codewarrior was ahead of the curve for a long time ide-wise |
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| 22:21.47 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:22.04 | Patlabor221 | the PC version kinda sucked |
| 22:22.15 | sussudio | Patlabor221: do you play bzflag, ever? |
| 22:22.15 | Patlabor221 | I still have a mac or 4 at home |
| 22:22.25 | Patlabor221 | sometimes, but not much |
| 22:22.32 | sussudio | thought so. |
| 22:22.59 | Patlabor221 | mostly the rabbit stuff lately in 1.9 |
| 22:23.05 | Patlabor221 | those are fun :) |
| 22:24.22 | doughecka | is the latest windows binary capatible with the servers that are up? |
| 22:24.34 | Patlabor221 | I haven't built in a while |
| 22:24.39 | Patlabor221 | let me make a new kit |
| 22:24.41 | doughecka | ah, ok |
| 22:24.51 | doughecka | cuz it crashes really bad :) |
| 22:25.13 | doughecka | I tried compiling it, but the tar file was corrupt or somethin |
| 22:25.21 | learnerAtWork | doubt it doughecka |
| 22:25.48 | sussudio | i'm getting rather tired of people with modded clients who refuse to admit they're using one even if it's blindingly obvious... you should go on xmission and just watch them for a while. the most popular modclient at the moment seems to be one with accelerated shot speed and reload, ever so slightly, but you still see it. |
| 22:25.59 | Patlabor221 | what did you use to untar doug? |
| 22:26.05 | doughecka | winzip |
| 22:28.27 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (CommandsStandard.cxx): add bind/unbind commands |
| 22:28.53 | doughecka | nice |
| 22:29.30 | sussudio | bah winzip |
| 22:29.56 | doughecka | the bind/unbind commands |
| 22:29.56 | sussudio | prot-work: the voices in his head |
| 22:30.32 | Patlabor221 | bzflag1.9a0.7.7.exe uploaded |
| 22:35.11 | doughecka | I am going to be on the bunny server |
| 22:37.31 | Patlabor221 | I find it slows it down |
| 22:38.32 | Patlabor221 | 4 Ds dumps a lot of data to the terminal |
| 22:39.01 | learnerAtWork | that's what I figured |
| 22:39.21 | learnerAtWork | fourth d is to watch network traffic, yes? |
| 22:39.27 | learnerAtWork | "mostly" |
| 22:47.10 | JBDiGriz | Patlabor221: The connect doesn't occur until a packet is sent. Since this is UDP, that makes some sense. I wasn't flushing the sent packet. |
| 22:47.27 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 22:47.35 | Patlabor221 | I allways sent a packet right after I connect |
| 22:47.40 | Patlabor221 | the "magic number" |
| 22:48.01 | sussudio | is the messaging in 1.9 nonfunctional again? |
| 22:48.27 | JBDiGriz | The flush or host_service call was the only thing I was missing. |
| 22:49.08 | Patlabor221 | I'm hooking up the host service stuff now |
| 22:49.21 | Patlabor221 | into my packetprocessor callback classes |
| 22:50.24 | doughecka | sussudio: I guess so |
| 22:52.59 | doughecka | hm, it also crashes on exit, doesnt save my settings |
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| 22:56.31 | sussudio | Tupone: http://beta.xko.cz/danny/EUROPE-ITALY.swf |
| 22:58.31 | learnerAtWork | W00T! |
| 23:02.01 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Did you check in those fixes for the Mac project? |
| 23:02.12 | learnerAtWork | which ones? |
| 23:02.26 | JBDiGriz | The files with the absolute pathnames, etc. |
| 23:02.36 | learnerAtWork | ah, yes. that should be fixed now |
| 23:02.51 | JBDiGriz | Good, I'll have a few more fixes for the project file tonight. |
| 23:02.57 | Tupone | sussi: already know that! |
| 23:03.17 | learnerAtWork | I've sent in all my current pb project changes so feel free to go nuts with it |
| 23:04.12 | JBDiGriz | Is the client finding the font files? |
| 23:04.39 | learnerAtWork | not for me |
| 23:05.18 | learnerAtWork | or not |
| 23:05.34 | JBDiGriz | It looks like it's unhappy with the .png extensions. |
| 23:07.55 | learnerAtWork | package/irix/idb is going to be borked next release |
| 23:09.20 | learnerAtWork | bingo |
| 23:09.29 | learnerAtWork | i think |
| 23:09.43 | learnerAtWork | yep |
| 23:09.59 | learnerAtWork | src/platform/BzfMedia.cxx, line 166 |
| 23:10.09 | learnerAtWork | getImageExtension() returns "rgb" |
| 23:12.06 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/platform (BzfMedia.cxx): we are using png now, not rgb |
| 23:15.19 | JBDiGriz | Good enough, I'll try it tonight as well as fixing the project file. |
| 23:16.39 | JBDiGriz | I'll also doublecheck which files are being compiled into libMediaFile.a :-) |
| 23:17.44 | JBDiGriz | How did you create your package using make? |
| 23:18.01 | learnerAtWork | package? |
| 23:18.10 | learnerAtWork | I haven't added the rules to do that yet |
| 23:18.14 | JBDiGriz | The application directory. |
| 23:18.20 | learnerAtWork | I just run the binary from bzflag |
| 23:18.48 | JBDiGriz | I wonder where it thought it's data directory was, and what files were there? |
| 23:19.09 | learnerAtWork | heh.. it would only work if my pwd was data/ .. |
| 23:20.58 | Tupone | You can use the -directory option, the current `pwd`/data or the INSTALL_DATA directory, in thsi order |
| 23:21.29 | learnerAtWork | they didn't work |
| 23:21.41 | JBDiGriz | The mac build is slightly different, It has a function GetMacOSXDataPath in src/platform/MacOSX/MacDisplay.cxx |
| 23:21.55 | Tupone | On MAC ... OK! |
| 23:22.08 | learnerAtWork | pay attention! :) |
| 23:22.41 | Tupone | I fix something for other machine, not MAC neither Wind |
| 23:26.27 | learnerAtWork | is cvs -z3 useful/recommended when doing _updates_? |
| 23:26.52 | JBDiGriz | Never hurts, it trades off network bandwidth for CPU |
| 23:38.38 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-20-67.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 23:53.01 | *** topic/#bzflag by learnerAtWork -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || g2 released 2003-06-17 || Subversive planning for the next release http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress || when you modify a header, please put javadoc-style /** comments */ in! || anoncvs sucks, so here are some snapshots: http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/ || http://brlcad.org/ |
| 23:53.10 | learnerAtWork | eek |
| 23:53.13 | learnerAtWork | too long |
| 23:54.10 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I think when someone has the Shield Flag, they should be textured witht he sprinklys |
| 23:54.14 | *** topic/#bzflag by learnerAtWork -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || g2 released 2003-06-17 || Subversive planning for the next release http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress || when you modify a header, please put javadoc-style /** comments */ in! || anoncvs sucks, snapshots: http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/ || http://brlcad.org/bzflag/source |
