| 00:00.03 | JBDiGriz | and could you grab me a beer from the fridge? |
| 00:00.26 | creeperz | Get...me...chicken!! |
| 00:00.33 | sussudio | get you liver? |
| 00:00.55 | Patlabor221 | once I sent out screen shots of one of our products that used to be on the mac ( we droped the mac a while ago), in the OSX theme, freaked all the mac guys out, they thought I had a secret mac version. |
| 00:00.55 | creeperz | WHERE IS THE CHICKEN!! |
| 00:01.37 | creeperz | Ahh :-( |
| 00:01.42 | JBDiGriz | I love doing things like that to marketing. :) |
| 00:01.54 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: heh |
| 00:02.37 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: Thanks! |
| 00:02.46 | fiberchunks | crunchy! |
| 00:02.51 | sussudio | *urp* |
| 00:03.05 | fiberchunks | anyone ever read neuromancer? |
| 00:03.12 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:03.21 | learnerAtWork | does having the book and reading the first few chapters count? |
| 00:03.29 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 00:03.34 | learnerAtWork | :P |
| 00:03.40 | Patlabor221 | well you asked |
| 00:04.02 | fiberchunks | 2 questions: 1) do you want to have a 'stealth' suit, and 2) wouldn't you love to have little program crystals implanted in your brain (/me raises hand, and waves around frantically) |
| 00:04.20 | Patlabor221 | skillsofts |
| 00:04.23 | fiberchunks | it is a _fine_ piece of scifi |
| 00:04.32 | fiberchunks | yes, thank you -- been a while since I read it |
| 00:04.40 | Patlabor221 | well they called them skillsofts |
| 00:04.44 | Patlabor221 | sorry microsofts |
| 00:04.47 | creeperz | Hmm??? |
| 00:04.49 | Patlabor221 | but skillsofts sounds better |
| 00:04.50 | creeperz | CRYSTALS?!!! |
| 00:04.56 | creeperz | :-) |
| 00:04.57 | Patlabor221 | that's what they were called in shadowrun |
| 00:05.03 | fiberchunks | I've read almost all of gibson's work -- good stuff |
| 00:05.23 | Patlabor221 | I have more to read of it |
| 00:05.45 | Patlabor221 | been reading Tanya Huff recently |
| 00:05.45 | fiberchunks | I like neal stephenson as well -- not as much as I like gibson though |
| 00:05.47 | Patlabor221 | rather good |
| 00:05.54 | fiberchunks | hrm -- /me jots it on list |
| 00:06.08 | Patlabor221 | the "vallor" ones are good |
| 00:06.23 | JBDiGriz | Neal Stephenson is interesting, but tends to get lost in the middle of the book |
| 00:06.45 | Patlabor221 | I have to finish wheel of time one of these days |
| 00:07.09 | JBDiGriz | For some more historical perspective, have you read "The Adolescence of P1"? |
| 00:07.29 | fiberchunks | of P1 or PI ? |
| 00:07.36 | JBDiGriz | P-One |
| 00:07.38 | fiberchunks | and no, I haven't -- author? |
| 00:08.01 | JBDiGriz | Thomas Ryan |
| 00:08.04 | fiberchunks | thx |
| 00:08.11 | Patlabor221 | what you didn't like the dolphin? |
| 00:08.14 | JBDiGriz | I had to look it up, it's been a while |
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| 00:08.28 | fiberchunks | ghod no -- that movie was shite |
| 00:08.43 | Patlabor221 | ir Ice Cube? |
| 00:08.47 | fiberchunks | a matrixesque neuromancer I think, would kick serious ass |
| 00:08.56 | fiberchunks | all dark and gothicy |
| 00:09.14 | creeperz | UUGH!! |
| 00:09.21 | creeperz | I HATE LINUX! |
| 00:09.27 | JBDiGriz | sounds like an updated BladeRunner |
| 00:09.28 | fiberchunks | good, install windows |
| 00:09.56 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz> read the book, it's really quite good, imho (if you're into scifi/computer themed books anyway) |
| 00:10.35 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: It's on my list, I really liked "True Names" by Vernor Vinge, but he's also a local favorite |
| 00:10.49 | Patlabor221 | fiber did you watch all of those movies last night? |
| 00:12.24 | fiberchunks | not all of them no, the d/l choked and died on me |
| 00:12.36 | fiberchunks | on 3, urgh |
| 00:12.44 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 00:12.51 | Patlabor221 | well 2 is good |
| 00:13.04 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: /mnt/bfoj and /home/bfoj are duplicates |
| 00:13.16 | bzgirl | quite large ones |
| 00:13.19 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah I was suposed to ask you about that :( |
| 00:14.22 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.43 | fiberchunks | hrm -- lemme check it out |
| 00:15.22 | sussudio | /home/piggy is only 153M |
| 00:16.18 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> home/bfoj/public_html points to /mnt/bfoj/public_html -- it's a symlink |
| 00:17.03 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: ahh..i was looking at /home/bfoj/ forgot about the publichtml |
| 00:17.39 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 00:17.47 | Patlabor221 | how much we got up there now? |
| 00:18.11 | bzgirl | free or used? |
| 00:18.19 | Patlabor221 | used |
| 00:18.33 | bzgirl | 2.5 gigs :) |
| 00:18.43 | bzgirl | but im working on that |
| 00:18.49 | Patlabor221 | only 10% of the drive |
| 00:19.08 | fiberchunks | any LyX fans in here? |
| 00:19.18 | learnerAtWork | lynx? :) |
| 00:19.50 | Patlabor221 | well I thinks its time to go home and continue the battle with linux |
| 00:19.57 | fiberchunks | LyX |
| 00:20.01 | Patlabor221 | I think I've got a beachead |
| 00:20.05 | fiberchunks | typesetting app |
| 00:20.38 | Patlabor221 | pagemaker or death! |
| 00:20.44 | Patlabor221 | sorry wrong hot key |
| 00:20.50 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> heh, toss a couple grenades... |
| 00:20.56 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 00:21.15 | Patlabor221 | old graphic design classes kickin in |
| 00:21.24 | Patlabor221 | good thing I'm not a rabbit |
| 00:21.52 | fiberchunks | wow, nice little feature in xchat I never knew about -- the 'URL grabber' |
| 00:22.15 | bzgirl | yup thats cool |
| 00:22.31 | fiberchunks | pardon the foo... testing : |
| 00:22.35 | fiberchunks | SysInfo: Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 | AMD Athlon(tm) 1845.962 MHz | Bogomips: 3683.12 | Mem: 703/882M [3|||||||4|||] | Diskspace: 67.14G Free: 46.58G | Procs: 48 | Uptime: 1 day 18 hrs 6 mins 43 secs | Load: 0.06 0.07 0.02 | Vpenis: 51.7 cm | Screen: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4800] (rev a1)@1600x1200 (24 bpp) | eth0: In: 238.81M Out: 15.86M |
| 00:22.43 | sussudio | 2os[Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 3 (5.0 - 2195)] 2uptime[1d 5h 40m 26s] 2cpu[1-AMD Athlon K7, 800MHz, 512KB] 2mem[Usage: 256/1024MB (25.00%) [|||-------]] |
| 00:22.45 | sussudio | :-P |
| 00:22.47 | Patlabor221 | sweet baby jesus and all the orphans |
| 00:23.16 | bzgirl | you guys call those proccessors? bah |
| 00:23.39 | learnerAtWork | dude, you need more disk space.. :) |
| 00:23.48 | fiberchunks | yes, I do :) |
| 00:23.55 | sussudio | 186,669,056 Bytes out of 86,459,363,328 Bytes Free |
| 00:23.56 | Patlabor221 | 80 gig , how do you live? |
| 00:23.58 | sussudio | snort. |
| 00:24.04 | fiberchunks | carefully |
| 00:24.10 | bzgirl | Vpenis: 51.7 cm ?? |
| 00:24.23 | fiberchunks | lol, I knew you'd be the first to catch that one, bzgirl :) |
| 00:24.49 | learnerAtWork | lol, omg! |
| 00:24.51 | Patlabor221 | how do you get it to dump all that? |
| 00:24.57 | fiberchunks | it's a perl script |
| 00:25.01 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 00:25.01 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: you can make xchat hilight certian words :) |
| 00:25.07 | bzgirl | j/k |
| 00:25.07 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 00:25.40 | Patlabor221 | time to go home |
| 00:25.47 | fiberchunks | see you in a few |
| 00:25.56 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 00:26.14 | Patlabor221 | well maybe more then a few if bicat don't quit |
| 00:26.33 | bzgirl | cu |
| 00:26.43 | Patlabor221 | bye |
| 00:26.44 | fiberchunks | hrm, seems vpenis takes some arbitrary starting value, uptime, CPU quantity, total MEM, SCSI devices and calculates it |
| 00:27.06 | fiberchunks | script is nice, does lmsensors output too |
| 00:28.10 | fiberchunks | bizarre diskspace output though |
| 00:30.28 | *** part/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.131.244) |
| 00:31.54 | fiberchunks | hrm...seems my bios is not reporting /dev/hdb properly -- must look into that |
| 00:32.57 | fiberchunks | lost 12G somewhere |
| 00:33.20 | creeperz | Check your closet |
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| 00:49.43 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: and you say I need #bz therapy.. :) |
| 00:51.45 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: I'm at home now, and I can keep the IRC in the background. When you see me on at 2am, then tell me I'm nuts! |
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| 00:53.35 | fiberchunks | NinjaSocks> needs to don kfj and whip IRC into shape |
| 00:53.55 | patlabor221 | comp swap |
| 00:53.59 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 00:54.09 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 00:54.17 | patlabor221 | did another ram swap |
| 00:54.56 | fiberchunks | ah -- you have far too many parts laying around -- btw - what are you doing with that ppc embed board? |
| 00:55.07 | patlabor221 | it's just siting here |
| 00:55.12 | fiberchunks | mail it to me |
| 00:55.15 | fiberchunks | seriously |
| 00:55.17 | patlabor221 | k |
| 00:55.21 | patlabor221 | mail me an addy |
| 00:55.23 | fiberchunks | if cap or scan don't want it, I'll take it |
| 00:55.26 | *** part/#bzflag gonkulator (~brandon@h-66-167-168-95.DNVTCO56.covad.net) |
| 00:55.36 | fiberchunks | on it's way |
| 00:55.40 | patlabor221 | it's a tellocity dsl modem basicly |
| 00:56.02 | patlabor221 | but people are geting linux on it |
| 00:56.13 | JBDiGriz | I have a telocity dsl modem lying here, who's doing work on it? |
| 00:56.31 | patlabor221 | thre was a SF project that got a bootloader |
| 00:56.38 | fiberchunks | ray! |
| 00:56.49 | patlabor221 | and some other page that had pinouts for the hardware |
| 00:56.53 | patlabor221 | and flash stuff |
| 00:57.05 | fiberchunks | serial and eth port? |
| 00:57.22 | patlabor221 | USB, ethernet, and rj11 |
| 00:57.28 | fiberchunks | fancy |
| 00:57.33 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:58.49 | fiberchunks | whoops, time for another load |
| 01:01.13 | JBDiGriz | sf comes up blank on searches for telocity and directv, any further pointers? |
| 01:01.46 | patlabor221 | I did a google search |
| 01:01.52 | patlabor221 | gimme a sec here |
| 01:02.12 | patlabor221 | I'm abbout to atack the laptop with the sword |
| 01:02.43 | creeperz | :-) |
| 01:05.03 | learnerAtWork | girl.. I think they have medication for that.. :) |
| 01:05.31 | bzgirl | :) |
| 01:05.42 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 01:05.56 | fiberchunks | hrm -- xchat hotkeys -- is there such an animal? |
| 01:05.58 | creeperz | :) |
| 01:06.23 | creeperz | ... |
| 01:06.31 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: you can edit the uselist buttons i think |
| 01:06.42 | creeperz | That's between me and you...and you and you and you and you... |
| 01:07.05 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: op/deop/ban etc... |
| 01:07.05 | patlabor221 | here we go |
| 01:07.06 | patlabor221 | http://dslproject.speedconnect.us/main.html |
| 01:07.10 | fiberchunks | why yes, yes there is: settings->lists->key bindings... (new and improved xchat 2.0.2 |
| 01:08.37 | JBDiGriz | The case splits apart revealing a nice little Motorola 850 board. |
| 01:09.59 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:10.07 | patlabor221 | I pulled the board out |
| 01:10.18 | learnerAtWork | Here's a much better line speed test: http://www.dslreports.com/stest/0 |
| 01:11.19 | fiberchunks | yessssss, dslreports :) |
| 01:14.11 | fiberchunks | la di da, la di da |
| 01:14.24 | patlabor221 | I want a connection that times out as "dude" |
| 01:15.15 | learnerAtWork | hehe... gotta love it.. my connection rate on east coast is presently about 20000kbps |
| 01:15.38 | fiberchunks | fantastic -- loan me some |
| 01:15.40 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 01:15.45 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 01:15.54 | learnerAtWork | wish I could run a bz server here heh |
| 01:16.09 | creeperz | My birthday is the forth Saturday in August |
| 01:16.12 | fiberchunks | behind a proxy? or restricted access |
| 01:16.30 | learnerAtWork | um.. restricted in a sense |
| 01:16.44 | learnerAtWork | not permissible |
| 01:16.58 | fiberchunks | gov't work, or just plain work work (/me is government, so feels the DoD pain) |
| 01:17.11 | learnerAtWork | DoD |
| 01:17.19 | fiberchunks | ah :) |
| 01:17.20 | creeperz | BSOD! :-) |
| 01:17.36 | fiberchunks | I feel your pain |
| 01:17.40 | learnerAtWork | heheheh :) |
| 01:17.42 | learnerAtWork | :| |
| 01:17.44 | learnerAtWork | :( |
| 01:17.48 | learnerAtWork | heheh |
| 01:20.05 | fiberchunks | gotta love the retarded restrictions that the DoD imposes sometimes |
| 01:20.22 | learnerAtWork | quite true |
| 01:20.32 | learnerAtWork | It's just .. amazing .. sometimes |
| 01:20.33 | breadhat | hehe, at work, the T1 went down, and it took us about an hour to switch to the wireless link |
| 01:21.26 | fiberchunks | here's a good one -- at the site I work at, the millwrights have to be outside to fiddle with antennae. We, on the other hand, are inside, fiddling with the system -- HOWEVER-- DoD has indicated that no 'wireless, 2-way' devices are allowed, so no walkie-talkies |
| 01:21.54 | breadhat | hehehehe |
| 01:22.08 | breadhat | tin can and string? |
| 01:22.45 | fiberchunks | note: these dudes are usually about 300 ft away, so they either: 1) have to walk all the way back inside, upstairs, thru 2 passdoors, and talk to us, reverse, repeat... or 2) we have devised a device, akin to a tin can and string, that is a $1000 piece of electrical conductor shielding with a starbucks coffee cup on one end |
| 01:22.47 | creeperz | :-) |
| 01:22.53 | fiberchunks | frickin ridiculous :\ |
| 01:22.58 | breadhat | haha |
| 01:23.02 | learnerAtWork | HA! |
| 01:23.13 | fiberchunks | apparently, the DoD doesn't realize that there are such things as 'secure' walkie-talkies |
| 01:23.21 | creeperz | Heh |
| 01:23.24 | fiberchunks | we could even use military comms gear fer chrissakes |
| 01:23.43 | breadhat | but it would be unsecure! er, um, yea! |
| 01:23.47 | fiberchunks | learnerAtWork> << knows exactly about that which I speak |
| 01:23.58 | fiberchunks | i.e ridiculous rules |
| 01:24.18 | fiberchunks | here's another gem -- the SECRET computers have CD-RWs in them :\ |
| 01:24.44 | breadhat | hah |
| 01:24.46 | fiberchunks | but that's allowed, mind you -- because it's in a 'secure' facility -- doesn't make any sense to me, but whatever |
| 01:25.10 | learnerAtWork | we had a purchase of several systems delayed for *months* (about 6-8) -- nobody would confirm or deny a status. We eventually came to find out that the systems were being held up because they had wireless capabilities (Ti notebooks).. Heh |
| 01:25.45 | breadhat | hmm, I should take a screenshot of my computer at work |
| 01:25.53 | learnerAtWork | very rediculous rules |
| 01:26.03 | breadhat | 3 monitors :) |
| 01:26.10 | fiberchunks | lol -- oh yeah -- that reminds me -- all devices posessing IR ports are forbidden in this facility -- because, as we all know, the 'astounding' 3 meter range of IR is enough to cripple national security, in a 'secure' facility |
| 01:26.24 | breadhat | exactly |
| 01:26.56 | breadhat | you never know when those pesky infrared beams might hop to the server |
| 01:26.56 | learnerAtWork | I'm still pissed that we were forced to shut down our primary anonymous ftp server a couple years ago (one that happened to be a principal mirror for freebsd, xfree86, etc) |
| 01:27.03 | fiberchunks | so -- no pdas, no laptops, no anything 'useful' I'm surprised we don't still use pen and paper and then transcribe everything |
| 01:27.09 | breadhat | lol |
| 01:27.16 | breadhat | on dumb terminals |
| 01:27.16 | fiberchunks | learnerAtWork> ah, that sux0rs |
| 01:27.37 | fiberchunks | SAIC? |
| 01:27.44 | learnerAtWork | no |
| 01:28.02 | fiberchunks | the 'Maryland Procurement Office'? ;) |
| 01:28.42 | fiberchunks | I work @ Raytheon, for NUWC, on naval comms stuff -- pretty cool tech really |
| 01:28.43 | learnerAtWork | no |
| 01:28.50 | JBDiGriz | SAIC is in my backyard, they actually work on some fun projects as well as the gummymint stuff. |
| 01:28.53 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 01:29.21 | fiberchunks | yeah, SAIC is into everything |
| 01:29.25 | learnerAtWork | brb |
| 01:30.02 | breadhat | oh yea, also the server got shutdown today, at around noon |
| 01:30.29 | breadhat | its fun when we get phones calls goin "I dont have any applications anymore" |
| 01:30.43 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:31.06 | breadhat | and it was a shutdown too, so we had to go back and push the button :) |
| 01:37.00 | fiberchunks | wb proton |
| 01:37.48 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: larsl was trying to understand the network section and network enhancements of the wipi. He wanted to know if it included the client separation of network code into it's own class. |
| 01:38.25 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: YES! |
| 01:38.58 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: There's a patch for that which breaks bots. Are we using the patch? |
| 01:39.15 | captain_proton | maybe |
| 01:39.17 | captain_proton | i haven't looked at it |
| 01:39.59 | JBDiGriz | I just started looking at it today. I wanted to start documenting those changes a little more. |
| 01:40.17 | captain_proton | it depends on what we're doing for transport really |
| 01:40.26 | captain_proton | if we switch over to ENet, we'll probably just want to rewrite |
| 01:41.13 | learnerAtWork | death to the old bot code |
| 01:41.27 | captain_proton | what sounds ideal to me is to have a module/namespace for the protocol - all the outgoing messages would just be functions that had the data sent in the packet as the argument |
| 01:41.39 | captain_proton | incoming messages would be divied out by a callback system |
| 01:41.41 | learnerAtWork | SAIC is a meat shop from my experience (people I know work/worked for them) |
| 01:41.45 | fiberchunks | patlabor221> you about? |
| 01:41.53 | fiberchunks | learnerAtWork> yes, true |
| 01:42.44 | JBDiGriz | enet gives us a nice layer which we could use in the separate class. It doesn't help us create the module. |
| 01:43.05 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: no, but what i'm saying is that if we just go with the current system, the patch could be a useful start |
| 01:43.18 | captain_proton | if we're changing the transport, it'll be easier just to redo it from scratch |
| 01:44.19 | JBDiGriz | I'll try translating that into the spec, but we'll probably have to throw it back and forth until it really looks correct. |
| 01:45.13 | captain_proton | well - we need to get everyone together and just argue about it |
| 01:45.33 | captain_proton | the goal is to have a clean separation between the network code and the rest, so lets figure out how to do it right |
| 01:45.35 | JBDiGriz | I'll be happy to take notes for that one! |
| 01:46.57 | JBDiGriz | How do we actually have a meeting about it? Have we ever done something like this before? |
| 01:48.15 | patlabor221 | everyone shouts in here |
| 01:48.27 | patlabor221 | and if your idea isn't liked, you are baned |
| 01:48.44 | JBDiGriz | but we need to let people know when the shouting occurs about this particular subject! |
| 01:49.02 | learnerAtWork | pat, hehehe |
| 01:49.15 | patlabor221 | use bzbb |
| 01:49.22 | patlabor221 | or the dev mailing list would be my guess |
| 01:51.42 | JBDiGriz | There really isn't a planning section on bzbb, although I could put it in enhancements. I haven't signed up for the dev mailing list, but I probably should! :@ |
| 01:52.23 | learnerAtWork | I "think" I'm on the dev mailing list.. though the traffic must be near nil |
| 01:52.42 | learnerAtWork | bzbb would probably be more "public" |
| 01:52.50 | captain_proton | learnerAtWork: -dev isn't near nil |
| 01:53.42 | captain_proton | we should figure out a time that works for all interested developers |
| 01:54.01 | JBDiGriz | I think the first question is who are the interested developers? |
| 01:54.29 | captain_proton | i'd imagine chestal, tim |
| 01:54.30 | captain_proton | maybe MAC |
| 01:54.45 | JBDiGriz | I would guess larsl and Mayhem would have an interest as well |
| 01:54.52 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 01:54.57 | patlabor221 | huh, who, what? |
| 01:55.02 | patlabor221 | net stuff? |
| 01:55.12 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yah |
| 01:55.25 | patlabor221 | ewww, have at it, let me know when it works :) |
| 01:56.21 | patlabor221 | I'm still trying to make linux work :) |
| 01:56.24 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 01:56.34 | JBDiGriz | So far, noone from au or those asian timezones, so we might have a chance to organize it! |
| 01:56.35 | patlabor221 | I can get the machine to restart every time I build g0 |
| 01:56.37 | patlabor221 | consistnetly |
| 01:57.12 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:57.14 | fiberchunks | I would be more than happy to have an entirely private / restricted area strictly for you devs to hold chats, etc on bzbb -- it's entirely up to you |
| 01:57.26 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: eh, i don't think so |
| 01:57.33 | captain_proton | we've got the SF boards, the wiki and here |
| 01:57.33 | fiberchunks | good enough |
| 01:57.48 | captain_proton | which are somewhat more "official" from a development standpoint |
| 01:57.55 | JBDiGriz | bzbb admins: will I annoy you terribly if I post something in enhancements to set up a time? |
| 01:57.55 | patlabor221 | for a board type thing the devlist is probalby fastest cus they mail |
| 01:58.23 | fiberchunks | not I -- |
| 01:58.37 | patlabor221 | have at it |
| 01:58.44 | patlabor221 | that's what it's there for |
| 01:59.05 | patlabor221 | $5 says spiff and/or derv reply to it tho |
| 01:59.52 | fiberchunks | make it moderated, make a new group, add only the devs approved here to that group -- or privatize it, and I'll add whoever you want to it -- keep the cruft out, if you want |
| 02:00.12 | captain_proton | eh, let them reply to it |
| 02:00.15 | patlabor221 | naw they should know what's going on |
| 02:00.17 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: just make sure you write to -dev too ;) |
| 02:00.50 | fiberchunks | good enough |
| 02:01.35 | JBDiGriz | I'm writing it up now, and I'll mail it to the dev list as well. |
| 02:01.51 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: We won't start without you! :{) |
| 02:02.45 | creeperz | EEK! Scary face! |
| 02:05.56 | fiberchunks | 'big board of justice?' |
| 02:06.04 | patlabor221 | 2 outa 3 |
| 02:06.23 | captain_proton | he can't be in here! he'll see the big board! |
| 02:06.53 | creeperz | Building Blocks of Justice? |
| 02:07.02 | learnerAtWork | Bulletin Board of justice |
| 02:07.06 | fiberchunks | big board of ju-jitsu? big board of jamiroquai? |
| 02:07.12 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 02:07.12 | patlabor221 | boot |
| 02:07.12 | creeperz | :-) |
| 02:07.18 | learnerAtWork | ;) |
| 02:07.27 | creeperz | Boot Board of Juice? |
| 02:07.32 | creeperz | ;-) |
| 02:07.45 | JBDiGriz | Big Bob of the Jungle |
| 02:08.42 | fiberchunks | bouncy beauties of jamaica? |
| 02:08.44 | learnerAtWork | Big blow j-never mind |
| 02:08.50 | creeperz | :-) |
| 02:08.50 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 02:08.59 | creeperz | I thought of that one earlier |
| 02:09.05 | patlabor221 | I see somone is lonely |
| 02:09.11 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 02:09.19 | learnerAtWork | I'm at work.. what can I say? |
| 02:09.24 | fiberchunks | of course, in a room of guys (cept ms girl), it will always degrade to that -- statistic fact |
| 02:09.26 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 02:09.45 | patlabor221 | sadly |
| 02:10.32 | fiberchunks | photos of the 'big bird of justice': http://lmms.external.lmco.com/photos/military_space/milstar/milstar.html |
| 02:11.02 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 02:11.13 | fiberchunks | heh, amazed I was able to fit that in :) |
| 02:11.24 | fiberchunks | whoops, laundry time |
| 02:11.59 | learnerAtWork | so was I ;) |
| 02:12.04 | breadhat | "whoops"? |
| 02:12.10 | creeperz | I got it! |
| 02:12.26 | creeperz | Blue Beans of Jars! |
| 02:12.49 | patlabor221 | wow you are pushing it arn't you? |
| 02:13.39 | learnerAtWork | he's really thinking |
| 02:13.53 | learnerAtWork | I can smell his noodle baking all the way over here |
| 02:13.55 | scanline | Bologna-Beef Juice |
| 02:14.06 | learnerAtWork | or is that fiber's laundry.. |
| 02:14.11 | patlabor221 | yes scanline gets the prixe |
| 02:15.11 | patlabor221 | this linux stuff is going to drive me insane |
| 02:15.16 | learnerAtWork | so cap.. the non-nil dev traffic you're reffering to.. |
| 02:15.34 | captain_proton | learnerAtWork: well, for one, all the tracker updates get sent to the list |
| 02:15.39 | captain_proton | as well as activity on the sf forums |
| 02:15.39 | learnerAtWork | I do get patches, and commit reports there, but little chatter |
| 02:15.42 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 02:15.52 | captain_proton | ok, then you're on it :) |
| 02:15.56 | patlabor221 | there are few posts to the SF boards |
| 02:15.57 | learnerAtWork | ;) |
| 02:16.03 | creeperz | I know it! |
| 02:16.11 | creeperz | Big Bad Wolf! |
| 02:16.16 | creeperz | ... |
| 02:16.25 | creeperz | Hmm |
| 02:16.29 | creeperz | Jolf! |
| 02:16.45 | learnerAtWork | try a difference language creeperz.. you'll get it eventually |
| 02:16.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+q creeperz!*@*] by patlabor221 |
| 02:17.06 | learnerAtWork | heheheheheh |
| 02:17.07 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 02:17.09 | captain_proton | ...1 |
| 02:17.14 | patlabor221 | yup |
| 02:17.34 | patlabor221 | that's the best of modes |
| 02:18.03 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 02:21.53 | learnerAtWork | Has anyone tried BeOS Max Edition? |
| 02:22.11 | patlabor221 | max? |
| 02:22.19 | learnerAtWork | yes |
| 02:22.55 | JBDiGriz | What's the protocol for replying to a mailing on the dev list. I would rather not post an email address on a public web site, and replying to the dev list seems somehow wrong. |
| 02:23.35 | patlabor221 | if it's to the list you reply to the list |
| 02:23.51 | patlabor221 | or is it one of the forums? |
| 02:24.01 | patlabor221 | cus those you use the URL to post to |
| 02:24.08 | learnerAtWork | obscure group making improvements to the last official release of beos, they have a surprisingly high sf download rating |
| 02:24.31 | patlabor221 | interesting |
| 02:24.37 | learnerAtWork | who's been doing the beos port for bz? |
| 02:24.41 | JBDiGriz | I didn't think about putting it in the forum |
| 02:24.45 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: mmu_man |
| 02:24.55 | learnerAtWork | thx, jb |
| 02:27.43 | JBDiGriz | I guess that also satisfys the current requirements for occasionally posting rather than just lurking! :{) |
| 02:28.07 | patlabor221 | ya only need 1 |
| 02:28.17 | patlabor221 | and a valid address |
| 02:28.20 | *** join/#bzflag gonkulator (~brandon@h-66-167-168-95.DNVTCO56.covad.net) |
| 02:28.38 | patlabor221 | next week we are gonna do a mass mail and kill any that bounce |
| 02:29.35 | learnerAtWork | wow.. asdf and spiff lost against tds |
| 02:32.26 | JBDiGriz | The third team member of asdf and spiff has changed from Xtreme to Merry! I wonder what happened? |
| 02:32.47 | bzgirl | spiff kicked out xtreme |
| 02:32.55 | patlabor221 | was it him? |
| 02:33.08 | learnerAtWork | "him" ... :) |
| 02:33.14 | bzgirl | it wasnt carny apperently |
| 02:33.19 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 02:33.24 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 02:33.33 | bzgirl | but merry is legolas's little sister... |
| 02:33.41 | bzgirl | shes 10 or 12 i think |
| 02:33.46 | learnerAtWork | that would have been just funny |
| 02:33.57 | bzgirl | they better be tactful if they remove her |
| 02:34.03 | learnerAtWork | I keep thinking merry from lotr.. ugh! |
| 02:34.14 | patlabor221 | well she seems very enthusiastic about the game |
| 02:34.38 | learnerAtWork | I .. cannot .. see .. asdf playing with her in a match.... |
| 02:35.29 | learnerAtWork | perhaps, though |
| 02:35.34 | fiberchunks | wow |
| 02:36.06 | learnerAtWork | he's just simply too serious |
| 02:36.07 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz, et al> I added a 'dev meetings' topic to the BZ Dev category -- your post is now there |
| 02:36.27 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: Thanks, that makes a lot more sense to me! |
| 02:36.38 | patlabor221 | maybe just call it dev issues? |
| 02:36.47 | patlabor221 | meetings, and discussions and whatnot |
| 02:36.57 | fiberchunks | yeah, I'll do that |
| 02:37.19 | JBDiGriz | Development Planning, maybe? |
| 02:37.32 | patlabor221 | well one sec |
| 02:37.46 | fiberchunks | can do that too, lemme know, I'm in process changing as you banter ;) |
| 02:37.49 | patlabor221 | sure that would work |
| 02:38.06 | learnerAtWork | how about "Code Monkey Blather" |
| 02:38.23 | patlabor221 | ummmmm how bout no. |
| 02:38.24 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: How about "Subversive Development Planning" ? :{) |
| 02:38.27 | fiberchunks | Development Planning is thus born |
| 02:38.33 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 02:38.35 | fiberchunks | ANSWER TO THE FIST! planning |
| 02:38.42 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 02:38.47 | JBDiGriz | All hail the FIST! |
| 02:39.09 | fiberchunks | *a cult following ensues* << NO it's my sandal! ;) |
| 02:39.18 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: I didn't get a "hail" from that man! |
| 02:39.34 | fiberchunks | give the FIST a hail! |
| 02:40.00 | JBDiGriz | rotfl |
| 02:40.20 | fiberchunks | I was thinking of perhaps slapping in a calendar mod for the board -- and this, plus league match planning makes it useful, imho |
| 02:40.40 | fiberchunks | and also makes the 'portal' mod much more useful too, patlabor221 |
| 02:40.42 | fiberchunks | imho |
| 02:40.51 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:41.14 | patlabor221 | also if we do tie our db into the leauge there will be more data for the portal |
| 02:42.06 | patlabor221 | there larsl and jbd have proper ranks now |
| 02:42.07 | learnerAtWork | then it would be trivial to penalize no show league matches.. |
| 02:42.10 | fiberchunks | I've downloaded it, but it says "Avengers" on the end of it. <<<<< wha? |
| 02:42.25 | JBDiGriz | This is starting to look like a real software project, with testing, development and management. Where's the marketing guy? I need someone lower in the pecking order. :{) |
| 02:42.25 | patlabor221 | I have no clue |
| 02:42.30 | patlabor221 | he's got somethign jacked |
| 02:42.36 | fiberchunks | yes, I _really_ must get thinking about that integration with the league site |
| 02:42.39 | patlabor221 | we fired the marketing guy |
| 02:42.41 | patlabor221 | he was 13 |
| 02:43.06 | JBDiGriz | Maybe Doug could be marketing? |
| 02:43.12 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: sf is our marketing dept.. :) |
| 02:43.36 | patlabor221 | is there some file that lets me configure gcc? |
| 02:43.37 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: They're not annoying enough, close, but not quite! |
| 02:43.38 | learnerAtWork | they just never do anything we want |
| 02:43.40 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz> buy it now! now, I tell you, now! you cannot live without bz! SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY *apply echo* watch the craziest, most insane bz battle to date! developers coding, people playing, it's maaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddnnnnnnnneeeeeeessssssss! |
| 02:43.46 | patlabor221 | maybe I can see why it's crashing on each compile |
| 02:44.00 | learnerAtWork | LOL, fiber LMAO! |
| 02:44.13 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: pretty good, but you have to lie more! |
| 02:44.18 | scanline | LOLOLOLOLLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:44.18 | *** join/#bzflag ski (ski@pool-151-201-123-59.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:44.19 | scanline | :p |
| 02:44.23 | fiberchunks | *out comes giant transformer robot tank, and eats patlabor221, live* |
| 02:44.30 | ski | that wasnt pretty |
| 02:44.46 | bzgirl | ski you almost turned it around though |
| 02:45.01 | ski | i had -25 :( |
| 02:45.09 | ski | nsad sad sad |
| 02:45.11 | learnerAtWork | i think it bit his shiny metal ... patlabor |
| 02:45.21 | bzgirl | well yeah, ski that dosent matter though |
| 02:45.31 | ski | i know, still fun |
| 02:45.37 | fiberchunks | but was thwarted by the kfjBJ |
| 02:45.42 | ski | sgi might not think so..heh |
| 02:45.57 | ski | i think i hit him more than the red team |
| 02:46.00 | learnerAtWork | ski, who'd you play? |
| 02:46.05 | ski | HoW |
| 02:46.21 | ski | what was the final score? |
| 02:46.27 | bzgirl | ski: sgi dosnet mind, hes in his own world :=) |
| 02:46.34 | ski | lol |
| 02:46.38 | bzgirl | 6-2 |
| 02:46.42 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 02:46.48 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-224-61.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 02:46.49 | ski | im still learning his tactics |
| 02:46.59 | ski | im still used to apache |
| 02:47.11 | learnerAtWork | who played, carnage and barrel? |
| 02:47.25 | ski | carnage, crash and freelancer |
| 02:47.31 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 02:47.36 | ski | freelancer kicked my butt |
| 02:47.40 | *** join/#bzflag NinjaSocks (~jeffm@adsl-64-167-77-97.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 02:47.50 | learnerAtWork | as he usually does to most.. :) |
| 02:47.56 | ski | actually carnage is waiting for me on rose |
| 02:48.12 | learnerAtWork | i noticed |
| 02:48.15 | learnerAtWork | ~rose |
| 02:48.16 | bzgirl | ski: another match? |
| 02:48.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 02:48.40 | ski | i dont know where sgi is :( |
| 02:48.59 | ski | ill be on rose for a little while if you want to join me |
| 02:49.07 | bzgirl | ski: .. |
| 02:49.15 | ski | huh |
| 02:49.19 | learnerAtWork | don't say it.. |
| 02:49.21 | bzgirl | ski: you can do countdowns on roses |
| 02:49.28 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 02:49.41 | ski | its fixed? |
| 02:49.42 | bzgirl | learnerAtWork: .. |
| 02:49.55 | learnerAtWork | now .. PLEASE don't say it.. :) |
| 02:49.55 | bzgirl | ski: your anadmin there :) |
| 02:50.16 | ski | yep, i remember..heh |
| 02:50.20 | bzgirl | :) |
| 02:50.31 | ski | ~rose |
| 02:50.51 | ski | im gonna play just a bit |
| 02:50.52 | bzgirl | learnerAtWork: say what? |
| 02:51.09 | learnerAtWork | never mind :) |
| 02:55.40 | JBDiGriz | Is there going to be a KOTH game tonight? |
| 02:55.54 | bzgirl | sure :) |
| 02:56.12 | JBDiGriz | Time/Place? |
| 02:56.25 | bzgirl | oh i dunno |
| 02:56.59 | patlabor221 | does anyone know if ssh uses a port other then 22? |
| 02:57.11 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Are you going to be home and up for something like that? |
| 02:57.42 | bzgirl | patlabor221: you can make sshd use any port you like, it defaults to 22 |
| 02:58.06 | patlabor221 | I just didn't know if it used any others in adition to the one you specify |
| 02:58.57 | patlabor221 | ~nslookup myhouse.bakadigital.com |
| 02:59.08 | patlabor221 | hrm |
| 02:59.41 | *** join/#bzflag ski (ski@pool-151-201-123-59.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:59.46 | ski | im back |
| 02:59.58 | ski | bzg |
| 03:00.16 | ski | any clue who was the avengers imposter? |
| 03:00.24 | ski | ~bzgirl |
| 03:00.25 | | i heard bzgirl is the coolest around |
| 03:00.25 | bzgirl | no idea |
| 03:00.30 | ski | nlol |
| 03:00.35 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 03:00.38 | bzgirl | ibot: :) |
| 03:00.39 | | (: |
| 03:00.49 | ski | howd you get ibot to say that |
| 03:00.56 | ski | i know its true and everything |
| 03:01.05 | ski | `ski |
| 03:01.05 | bzgirl | i didnt, ibot lubs me |
| 03:01.07 | ski | ~ski |
| 03:01.08 | | A simple game in curses that could be played on a line printer. URL: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~psystrj/index.html |
| 03:01.08 | Noodlebot | ski is playing |
| 03:01.16 | ski | ibot hates me |
| 03:01.17 | | ski: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 03:01.18 | ski | lol |
| 03:01.35 | patlabor221 | it has to be told everything it knows |
| 03:01.50 | ski | well, dangit, tell it it likes me...lol |
| 03:01.58 | ski | heh |
| 03:02.00 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 03:02.06 | bzgirl | ski: do this /msg ibot literal bzgirl |
| 03:02.46 | bzgirl | literal dosent work? |
| 03:03.02 | ski | did something |
| 03:03.45 | ski | ibot opened another window |
| 03:03.46 | | ski: i haven't a clue |
| 03:04.01 | patlabor221 | ~ski |
| 03:04.02 | | hmm... ski is allright. |
| 03:04.02 | Noodlebot | ski is playing |
| 03:04.03 | ski | sigh..lol |
| 03:04.16 | ski | now it wont stop talking to me |
| 03:04.56 | ski | anyways, its bothering me that someone is using my team name |
| 03:05.09 | ski | nim getting an ip addy next time |
| 03:05.12 | bzgirl | ski: i will try to catch the ip |
| 03:05.19 | ski | thx |
| 03:05.31 | *** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 03:05.34 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
| 03:05.43 | [STC]_creeperz | That wasn't very nice :-) |
| 03:05.50 | ski | heh |
| 03:06.05 | learnerAtWork | hehe, poor creeperz |
| 03:07.01 | patlabor221 | no, no poor creeperz |
| 03:07.04 | patlabor221 | he has had his shot |
| 03:07.11 | patlabor221 | multiple times |
| 03:07.15 | [STC]_creeperz | This isn't good |
| 03:07.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Look |
| 03:07.33 | [STC]_creeperz | Everyone |
| 03:07.43 | learnerAtWork | grrr |
| 03:07.48 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 03:07.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net] by patlabor221 |
| 03:07.55 | *** kick/#bzflag [[STC]_creeperz!~jeffm@adsl-64-167-77-97.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by patlabor221 (see yah) |
| 03:07.55 | bzgirl | :) |
| 03:08.00 | fiberchunks | harsh |
| 03:08.03 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 03:08.06 | learnerAtWork | ouch |
| 03:08.12 | patlabor221 | crucial realm |
| 03:08.26 | patlabor221 | this is his second ban |
| 03:08.34 | ski | what happened |
| 03:08.39 | ski | why? |
| 03:08.42 | patlabor221 | he was on his probation |
| 03:08.51 | bzgirl | he talks to himself in here |
| 03:08.55 | patlabor221 | ohh he went off when we would't let him keep a bot here |
| 03:09.01 | patlabor221 | just for him to playwith |
| 03:09.08 | patlabor221 | cusing |
| 03:09.09 | ski | ah, |
| 03:09.10 | patlabor221 | and all that |
| 03:09.14 | ski | i c |
| 03:09.14 | patlabor221 | cap baned him |
| 03:09.44 | patlabor221 | I told him why and a week later told him he could come back if he was good, stayed on topic, and didn't babble endlessy |
| 03:10.44 | learnerAtWork | ah.. and today has been endless babble |
| 03:10.57 | ski | heh |
| 03:10.59 | patlabor221 | at lest doug got on topic once a year and helps test every so often |
| 03:11.12 | bzgirl | hehe |
| 03:11.23 | learnerAtWork | speaking of on topic.. is cap around? |
| 03:11.32 | JBDiGriz | He still makes it to my ignore list. |
| 03:11.50 | patlabor221 | he was |
| 03:12.06 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 03:12.18 | JBDiGriz | Could someone take the sharp implements away from learnerAtWork? |
| 03:12.36 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 03:12.44 | patlabor221 | it's backup time? |
| 03:12.54 | fiberchunks | mod time on local boxen |
| 03:13.01 | patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 03:13.07 | patlabor221 | good non live update testing |
| 03:13.24 | patlabor221 | when is the koth game? |
| 03:13.33 | patlabor221 | I could do with some geting shot |
| 03:13.34 | learnerAtWork | ouch |
| 03:13.47 | fiberchunks | what's the tar command to preserve perms -- quick - first to answer gets a cookie |
| 03:14.00 | patlabor221 | -p |
| 03:14.01 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: you'll find this rather interesting... |
| 03:14.12 | patlabor221 | you didn't say first to answer correctly |
| 03:14.38 | fiberchunks | yah, but you're right anyway :) |
| 03:15.40 | patlabor221 | dman |
| 03:16.02 | ski | btw, thanks for refing bzgirl |
| 03:16.19 | bzgirl | ski: np |
| 03:16.26 | bzgirl | wish youd won :( |
| 03:16.54 | ski | next time :) |
| 03:17.30 | bzgirl | ski were going to play king of the hill soon |
| 03:17.39 | bzgirl | you get the 1.9 client? |
| 03:18.03 | ski | ah i forgot..i will get it though |
| 03:18.08 | ski | i wanna play |
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| 03:18.32 | fiberchunks | do dee do, dee do -- is there a new snap since this afternoon? |
| 03:19.00 | patlabor221 | every commit makes a snap |
| 03:19.40 | fiberchunks | ah, ic |
| 03:19.45 | DTRemenak | I hate snapshots...wish sf would get anoncvs working again |
| 03:19.52 | patlabor221 | august |
| 03:19.55 | patlabor221 | new servers |
| 03:20.00 | DTRemenak | arg |
| 03:20.16 | learnerAtWork | is the rabbit chase happening tonight? |
| 03:20.23 | bzgirl | learnerAtWork: yeah |
| 03:20.24 | patlabor221 | so they say |
| 03:20.33 | learnerAtWork | aww..... :( |
| 03:21.12 | patlabor221 | gonna run in the debuger so I can see any of the crashes |
| 03:22.18 | fiberchunks | king.diff is no longer necessary, correct? |
| 03:22.30 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 03:22.33 | patlabor221 | it's all cvs |
| 03:23.08 | patlabor221 | now with 100% more non text image files ;) |
| 03:23.22 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 03:24.33 | fiberchunks | when is this hootenanny supposed to begin? |
| 03:25.31 | patlabor221 | welld debuger aint gonna cut it |
| 03:25.38 | patlabor221 | makes my lag 400ms |
| 03:26.16 | learnerAtWork | ETA: 3 minutes.. :) |
| 03:26.49 | fiberchunks | goody, ping me when it's on -- phool! ph34r the phiber! ;) |
| 03:27.16 | patlabor221 | damn I'm still laggy |
| 03:27.45 | *** join/#bzflag gooble (~Bond@gso56-138-216.triad.rr.com) |
| 03:27.49 | gooble | hi! |
| 03:27.55 | gooble | i'm glad this channel exists |
| 03:27.59 | fiberchunks | heya |
| 03:28.03 | fiberchunks | so are we ;) |
| 03:28.04 | bzgirl | hello gooble |
| 03:28.05 | gooble | i'm getting an error before anything happens |
| 03:28.21 | bzgirl | gooble: fiberchunks will fix it |
| 03:28.22 | gooble | just installed on debian |
| 03:28.33 | gooble | the error is about 5 lines |
| 03:28.41 | patlabor221 | what's the error? |
| 03:28.48 | gooble | something about BadWindow |
| 03:29.03 | patlabor221 | this is on build or on run? |
| 03:29.08 | gooble | run |
| 03:29.17 | gooble | i didn't build |
| 03:29.20 | patlabor221 | you have gl installed and all that? |
| 03:29.24 | gooble | installed from debian package system |
| 03:29.35 | gooble | yes, other gl games work (quake, etc) |
| 03:29.35 | bzgirl | Sid? |
| 03:29.35 | patlabor221 | what video card? |
| 03:29.40 | gooble | woody |
| 03:29.41 | patlabor221 | hmm |
| 03:29.49 | gooble | nvidia riva tnt |
| 03:30.11 | fiberchunks | did you install latest non-xfree nvidia drivers? |
| 03:30.16 | fiberchunks | i.e. 4363? |
| 03:30.23 | patlabor221 | try bzflag -window -geometry 640x480 |
| 03:30.35 | bzgirl | and -echo |
| 03:30.42 | fiberchunks | and change your XF86Config appropriately << but try what patlabor221 suggests first |
| 03:30.53 | gooble | pat's thing fixed it |
| 03:31.02 | patlabor221 | well that's not a fix |
| 03:31.18 | patlabor221 | the screen resize call failed |
| 03:31.37 | patlabor221 | you could also try installing the latest nvidias |
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| 03:32.16 | gooble | why do you say that's not a fix? |
| 03:32.24 | patlabor221 | cus your running in a window |
| 03:32.28 | patlabor221 | it should work normaly |
| 03:33.40 | patlabor221 | does it fill the screen |
| 03:34.10 | learnerAtWork | heheh, I just found a "bug/feature" in koth |
| 03:34.18 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 03:34.21 | fiberchunks | whaz that |
| 03:34.28 | learnerAtWork | connect to a server as observer.. :) |
| 03:34.35 | fiberchunks | k |
| 03:34.40 | bzgirl | oh no :) |
| 03:34.44 | learnerAtWork | I'd love to see king taken away.. :) |
| 03:34.47 | bzgirl | observers the king? |
| 03:34.52 | learnerAtWork | heheh, yep |
| 03:34.56 | DTRemenak | lol |
| 03:34.56 | patlabor221 | LOL |
| 03:35.03 | bzgirl | thats a feature |
| 03:35.08 | learnerAtWork | yep |
| 03:35.11 | gooble | patlabor221: it's a window |
| 03:35.20 | michaelh2 | what is koth? |
| 03:35.25 | patlabor221 | yeah see that's not right, should be full scree |
| 03:35.26 | michaelh2 | oh |
| 03:35.31 | gooble | patlabor221: that's fine. i'll tinker with it. thank you for the quick fix! |
| 03:35.33 | patlabor221 | King Of THe Hill |
| 03:35.34 | michaelh2 | king of da hilllllllllllll |
| 03:35.34 | bzgirl | ~koth |
| 03:35.34 | | koth is, like, King of the Hill |
| 03:35.35 | Noodlebot | koth is a *really* bad name for this game style |
| 03:35.50 | michaelh2 | can we even have hills? |
| 03:35.55 | gooble | what ports does bzflag use? |
| 03:36.01 | Megachirops | pyramids |
| 03:36.17 | gooble | i need to open them on my router |
| 03:36.25 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Removed bzflag.bmp.... wow this is still there, I barely remember when I made it ages ago |
| 03:36.51 | ski | gnight all |
| 03:36.58 | bzgirl | cya ski |
| 03:37.13 | bzgirl | gooble: you shouldnt need to play |
| 03:37.26 | bzgirl | gooble: but will to host a server |
| 03:37.33 | fiberchunks | what the hell is that? press F and you get some funky sound |
| 03:37.47 | gooble | i got disconnected because it said it couldn't find udp |
| 03:37.57 | *** part/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-224-61.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 03:38.00 | bzgirl | gooble: options>udp on |
| 03:38.02 | patlabor221 | your nat has to support udp |
| 03:38.08 | patlabor221 | and that |
| 03:38.43 | gooble | remind me what nat stands for |
| 03:38.52 | michaelh2 | nasty |
| 03:38.54 | patlabor221 | Network Address Translation |
| 03:38.59 | michaelh2 | ants |
| 03:39.07 | michaelh2 | taste good |
| 03:39.25 | gooble | patlabor221: which means...? |
| 03:39.31 | michaelh2 | hey pat -- no spelling errors? |
| 03:39.51 | patlabor221 | it's a way to share one IP with multiple computers |
| 03:40.00 | gooble | 'udp on' fixed it i think |
| 03:40.10 | patlabor221 | yeah you should allways leave that on |
| 03:40.29 | fiberchunks | mmmm, that's interesting -- observer mode still reports me as 'following JDBGriz' even though I'm with NinjaSocks |
| 03:41.06 | JBDiGriz | Observer mode loves me :{) |
| 03:41.10 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 03:41.20 | gooble | wow, this is so smooth! amazing video card i guess |
| 03:41.30 | patlabor221 | only cus you take it to the nice resurants |
| 03:41.44 | patlabor221 | a TNT? |
| 03:42.05 | JBDiGriz | It actually likes the beach better! |
| 03:42.31 | gooble | nvidia riva tnt2 |
| 03:42.42 | patlabor221 | ohh same thing, just more speed |
| 03:42.50 | patlabor221 | wow we put those in servers :) |
| 03:43.37 | fiberchunks | hrm, another interesting feature -- if hunt mode is on for keyboard players -- then backing up don't work. Moreover, turning right or left puts you at full speed turn, and no way to stop |
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| 03:44.45 | gooble | patlabor221: does that mean good or bad? |
| 03:45.00 | patlabor221 | they have no GPU |
| 03:45.08 | patlabor221 | they are very slow by todays standards |
| 03:45.20 | patlabor221 | tho when they were new I remember blowin 250$ on one :) |
| 03:45.40 | michaelh2 | <-- TNT 1 -- works fine w/ no shadows/lighting |
| 03:46.58 | michaelh2 | since when did any video card not have some sort of processor on it? |
| 03:47.00 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 03:48.55 | JBDiGriz | client crash! |
| 03:48.59 | bzgirl | JBDiGriz: i can change the map |
| 03:49.13 | patlabor221 | that may help my lag |
| 03:49.23 | michaelh2 | 9/10 times -- buffer over run |
| 03:50.28 | patlabor221 | the TNT dosn't take geometry |
| 03:50.36 | patlabor221 | that's what GPU stands for in that case |
| 03:50.40 | patlabor221 | it's just a fill card |
| 03:50.52 | patlabor221 | the CPU does the transforms and the lighting |
| 03:51.00 | patlabor221 | tht's why it works with out shadows and lighting |
| 03:51.08 | patlabor221 | basicly no hardware T&L |
| 03:51.36 | patlabor221 | BZ was designed aroudn hardware T&L (SGIs) |
| 03:51.48 | gooble | tnt2 must have it, because the lighting looks great |
| 03:52.29 | patlabor221 | no, it'll still do it |
| 03:52.35 | patlabor221 | it's just done by the CPU |
| 03:52.41 | patlabor221 | how fast is your comp? |
| 03:52.54 | gooble | 550mhz |
| 03:52.54 | patlabor221 | the GeForce was the first T&L GPU |
| 03:53.07 | patlabor221 | yeah that's fast enought to calc the shadowsn and lights |
| 03:53.07 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 03:53.14 | patlabor221 | it's a lot faster with a GF |
| 03:53.21 | patlabor221 | cus then the cpu dosn't have to do it |
| 03:53.28 | patlabor221 | and all the objects hang out in card ram |
| 03:53.46 | michaelh2 | They hang out together huh? |
| 03:53.55 | patlabor221 | yeah and have beers |
| 03:54.01 | gooble | patlabor221: no big for bzflag. new games i'm sure it's required |
| 03:54.08 | michaelh2 | they say -- How often do you come to this ram? |
| 03:54.20 | patlabor221 | yeah BZ is rather trim on the gfx |
| 03:54.31 | michaelh2 | or -- been to this address often? |
| 03:54.42 | patlabor221 | yes they hit on the female objects, get shot down, then pass out in a ditch. |
| 03:54.47 | michaelh2 | or -- ack! I'm being flushed! |
| 04:00.14 | gooble | thank you once more. and i'm off |
| 04:06.46 | bzgirl | cap come and kill fiber please :) |
| 04:09.38 | captain_proton | ok |
| 04:09.48 | patlabor221 | I am soooooooooooo laggy |
| 04:10.01 | patlabor221 | ohhh that's why |
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| 04:55.39 | fiberchunks | whoo! that was fun match |
| 04:57.30 | patlabor221 | camper!!! :) |
| 04:57.35 | bzgirl | i take it you won? :) |
| 04:57.50 | patlabor221 | jbd did, he was the last one there |
| 04:57.53 | learnerAtWork | of course he did, punk! |
| 04:58.06 | patlabor221 | I know I lost |
| 04:58.09 | patlabor221 | definatly |
| 04:58.10 | patlabor221 | all me |
| 04:58.14 | patlabor221 | whoooot !!! |
| 04:58.16 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 04:58.43 | fiberchunks | camper?! :) |
| 04:58.50 | fiberchunks | FFA goodness shining thru |
| 04:58.56 | patlabor221 | it takes mad skillz to time my movements to run into those shots just at the right time |
| 04:59.09 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 05:00.09 | fiberchunks | it's just too damned hot to sleep -- I'll sleep on the plane |
| 05:01.09 | patlabor221 | it would be nice in that game mode to spawn closer to the king |
| 05:01.36 | fiberchunks | would also be nice if the 'team' was, and you got penalized for shooting others |
| 05:01.46 | patlabor221 | yeah cap mentioned that |
| 05:01.50 | fiberchunks | yup |
| 05:02.31 | fiberchunks | there was a point in time, where everyone was shooting at me, but I wasn't king (no highlight or anything -- was that camper revenge >:? |
| 05:02.57 | patlabor221 | it's bad to be around the king |
| 05:03.07 | learnerAtWork | lol, ok -- who just ordained me "developer guru"? :) thx |
| 05:03.12 | patlabor221 | I would like a sound when you cecme king |
| 05:03.18 | patlabor221 | cus it scared me onece |
| 05:03.24 | patlabor221 | yeah I fixed your rank |
| 05:03.28 | fiberchunks | me :) |
| 05:03.30 | patlabor221 | you and jbd |
| 05:03.43 | patlabor221 | you did? I did |
| 05:03.51 | fiberchunks | I fixed learners earlier today |
| 05:04.04 | fiberchunks | we all did! does it matter? ;) |
| 05:04.07 | patlabor221 | it wasn't set when I did it this eveing |
| 05:04.08 | learnerAtWork | heh, ok, no need to fight over it.. :) |
| 05:04.13 | fiberchunks | hrm, odd |
| 05:04.15 | patlabor221 | I DID!!! |
| 05:04.20 | fiberchunks | I did! |
| 05:04.22 | fiberchunks | you did! |
| 05:04.23 | patlabor221 | don't make me ban you |
| 05:04.31 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 05:04.37 | learnerAtWork | heheh |
| 05:04.51 | patlabor221 | ummm it's local to me |
| 05:05.23 | patlabor221 | I've actualy only ever baned 2 real people |
| 05:05.23 | fiberchunks | *evil grin* |
| 05:05.33 | fiberchunks | cell and creeperz, yes? |
| 05:05.40 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:07.25 | JBDiGriz | becoming king scared me all the time, cause I realized I was suddenly surrounded |
| 05:07.31 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:07.32 | patlabor221 | he SWORE it did |
| 05:07.37 | patlabor221 | he read it somehwere |
| 05:07.46 | patlabor221 | yeah it needs a sound |
| 05:07.47 | patlabor221 | or a flash |
| 05:07.54 | patlabor221 | or like an 'ohh crap' |
| 05:08.22 | JBDiGriz | or maybe that fsst sound we kept hearing :{) |
| 05:08.31 | patlabor221 | no that was steamroller |
| 05:08.36 | patlabor221 | as a text file |
| 05:09.09 | learnerAtWork | Is there some special meaning to the "omega"? |
| 05:09.10 | fiberchunks | that steamroller needs to be the Ha hahahahahaahah sound from CTF, imho |
| 05:09.36 | patlabor221 | omega is the last leter in the greek alphabet |
| 05:09.42 | learnerAtWork | yes.. |
| 05:09.50 | patlabor221 | it looks cool |
| 05:09.57 | JBDiGriz | The peons really need to be formed into a team, so that team send and team kill work. |
| 05:10.00 | patlabor221 | it's often asociated with death |
| 05:10.04 | fiberchunks | I can say the greek alphabet in about 3 seconds |
| 05:10.07 | fiberchunks | :\ |
| 05:10.10 | fiberchunks | whoo! for me :\ |
| 05:10.25 | learnerAtWork | So what does it have to do with developer gurus? :) |
| 05:10.37 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 05:10.43 | learnerAtWork | 11101010 |
| 05:10.44 | patlabor221 | where do you see this? |
| 05:10.48 | patlabor221 | LOL |
| 05:10.56 | learnerAtWork | character code 234? |
| 05:11.00 | patlabor221 | I typed in random 1's and 0's |
| 05:11.04 | learnerAtWork | ah, heheh |
| 05:11.08 | patlabor221 | wow there are 8 |
| 05:11.11 | patlabor221 | how lucky is that |
| 05:11.15 | learnerAtWork | go figure |
| 05:11.22 | patlabor221 | yeah it's all part of the secret omega project |
| 05:11.29 | patlabor221 | your not allowd to talk about it |
| 05:11.30 | fiberchunks | yes yes... ssssshhhhhhh |
| 05:11.35 | patlabor221 | I'm going to have to ban you now |
| 05:11.37 | patlabor221 | sorry |
| 05:12.00 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 05:12.01 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:12.10 | patlabor221 | your leting the terrorists win you know |
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| 05:12.19 | learnerAtWork | I have clearance.. and a need to know now.. :) |
| 05:12.24 | JBDiGriz | Only because you drive that SUV |
| 05:12.27 | patlabor221 | well I don't |
| 05:12.32 | patlabor221 | and your talking to me about it |
| 05:12.33 | learnerAtWork | I need to know so I don't get banned.. :) |
| 05:13.28 | patlabor221 | too late, it's black stealh helocopter time |
| 05:13.41 | fiberchunks | that's what the dev rank is for -- only wandering drunks, people who need pants badly, bumpmapped gurus, and omegas are in the know |
| 05:13.41 | MrApathyCream | who's david wollner? |
| 05:13.50 | JBDiGriz | Right here |
| 05:13.59 | learnerAtWork | ;) |
| 05:14.27 | patlabor221 | that's right cap is still looking for pants |
| 05:14.50 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 05:15.05 | JBDiGriz | MrApathyCream: coming to the network reorg meeting? |
| 05:15.08 | patlabor221 | learner did you fix the SR? |
| 05:15.21 | learnerAtWork | dunno.. fiber had a laundry "oops" earlier.. |
| 05:15.34 | learnerAtWork | doing that now, pat |
| 05:15.39 | fiberchunks | what? oh, that has been rectified |
| 05:15.45 | patlabor221 | well he does that, every so often, we put him in a room by himself |
| 05:16.51 | MrApathyCream | JBDiGriz: if i'm here i'm here. can't plan 5 minutes from now |
| 05:17.13 | JBDiGriz | MrApathyCream: What's your time zone, and typical availability? |
| 05:17.49 | MrApathyCream | eastern 12-2am (maybe) |
| 05:18.33 | JBDiGriz | It looks like we'll try for a weekend when people are around. |
| 05:19.21 | fiberchunks | next would be delicious for me, JBDiGriz, if it matters |
| 05:19.53 | JBDiGriz | Cap's away for a couple of days, but if he's back by then.... |
| 05:20.05 | MrApathyCream | patlabor221: why are obstacle, ogl, platform, etc, etc all set to Multithreaded? |
| 05:21.19 | patlabor221 | I dono, I don't think any of them should |
| 05:21.44 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz> lemme reclarify -- not this coming, but the one after (weekend of the what, 3rd?) |
| 05:21.45 | MrApathyCream | agreed |
| 05:23.05 | learnerAtWork | er, pat... never mind about that sound.. that wasn't my commit apparently |
| 05:23.11 | learnerAtWork | do you know which one it is? |
| 05:23.23 | patlabor221 | let me look |
| 05:23.43 | MrApathyCream | steamroller.wav |
| 05:23.45 | patlabor221 | gotta find wincvs |
| 05:23.53 | patlabor221 | mac did you commit that? |
| 05:24.02 | JBDiGriz | Friday is the Fourth of July, man from CT. |
| 05:24.05 | MrApathyCream | yes, i believe |
| 05:24.09 | MrApathyCream | busted? |
| 05:24.13 | patlabor221 | you did it as text not bin |
| 05:24.14 | patlabor221 | so yeah |
| 05:24.20 | patlabor221 | it gets messed up |
| 05:24.33 | MrApathyCream | opos |
| 05:24.35 | MrApathyCream | oops |
| 05:25.10 | learnerAtWork | hehe, that makes sense now that I think about it.. it wouldn't have been messed up for me, had I done the commit |
| 05:25.11 | patlabor221 | so we all get this blood curdling sqelch when somone rams somone else :) |
| 05:25.17 | fiberchunks | man from CT -- sounds like man of la mancha ;) |
| 05:25.35 | MrApathyCream | and that's not what you want? |
| 05:25.37 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.51 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz> well, I should be around next week as well -- it doesn't really matter, as long as I can read the log post-talk -- as I'd like to keep informed |
| 05:26.35 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: That weekend might work well for people, since the non-US people won't care, and the US people will have celebrated already. |
| 05:26.54 | fiberchunks | fair enough -- I'll check the forums when I get back from my hiatus |
| 05:27.34 | MrApathyCream | us people won't care either |
| 05:27.36 | MrApathyCream | :) |
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| 05:31.57 | patlabor221 | silly derv, trying to inflate his post count in test |
| 05:32.26 | patlabor221 | when his rank can't change |
| 05:32.51 | fiberchunks | bah |
| 05:33.11 | patlabor221 | I sould bump him down to 2 :) |
| 05:33.26 | captain_proton | rank can't change? |
| 05:33.42 | patlabor221 | not if your custom rank |
| 05:34.02 | fiberchunks | there is a mod! for that :) |
| 05:34.10 | patlabor221 | well don't install it |
| 05:34.16 | patlabor221 | that would leat to chaos |
| 05:34.39 | fiberchunks | l33t to ch40z |
| 05:34.51 | patlabor221 | I would snap |
| 05:34.57 | patlabor221 | and that would not be prety |
| 05:42.18 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 05:42.24 | captain_proton | derv's job is as a QA monkey? |
| 05:42.30 | captain_proton | poor bastard |
| 05:42.42 | patlabor221 | where? |
| 05:42.57 | captain_proton | in the post about testing bunnyhunt |
| 05:42.59 | fiberchunks | lolololol |
| 05:42.59 | patlabor221 | I loathe testing |
| 05:43.17 | fiberchunks | 'why do you think I asked you what your favorite color was?' |
| 05:45.23 | fiberchunks | my job is testing software? alrighty then |
| 05:46.14 | MrApathyCream | patlabor221: remember when we were trying to get him to explain the teleporter bug? sheesh, and he does this for a living? |
| 05:46.47 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:47.16 | patlabor221 | he was keeping the map a freakin secret |
| 05:55.18 | captain_proton | patlabor221: but of course! |
| 05:55.25 | captain_proton | if he had given us the map it would have ruined the surprise! |
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| 05:56.07 | fiberchunks | lo, winkles |
| 05:56.09 | patlabor221 | notice the map NEVER came out |
| 05:56.16 | Winky | Howdy |
| 05:57.08 | Winky | Rock and roll. (Just got gaim running... With fiber's help. (Thanks, fiber!)) |
| 05:57.15 | fiberchunks | np |
| 05:57.51 | bzgirl | does gaim do irc? |
| 05:58.04 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:58.06 | patlabor221 | it can |
| 05:58.07 | Winky | Apparently... That's what I'm using. |
| 05:58.10 | patlabor221 | it can do all of them |
| 05:58.26 | patlabor221 | it can even talk |
| 05:58.27 | Winky | I had to load libirc.so for it to work. |
| 05:58.41 | patlabor221 | yeah it's plugin based |
| 05:59.20 | Winky | Twas mostly easy. |
| 05:59.32 | Winky | And it works under MacOS X! |
| 06:00.41 | patlabor221 | trillian is a lot like gaim |
| 06:01.03 | patlabor221 | [---------------------------] that much ruckus |
| 06:01.18 | patlabor221 | unless you have your ninja socks on |
| 06:01.24 | learnerAtWork | works with os x, winky? |
| 06:01.32 | captain_proton | right right, forgot about the ninja socks |
| 06:01.56 | patlabor221 | cus only real ninjas have the socks, so it's ok for them to have the sword |
| 06:01.58 | fiberchunks | gaim can do a whole buncha protocols, MSN, ICQ, IRC, etc |
| 06:02.06 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 06:02.16 | patlabor221 | and it can talk :) |
| 06:02.24 | learnerAtWork | hmm. might have to check it out |
| 06:02.26 | patlabor221 | thats where the bobots came from. |
| 06:02.31 | learnerAtWork | yes, but can it make sushi? |
| 06:02.48 | learnerAtWork | :) hehheh |
| 06:02.54 | Winky | Yeah, I'm using OS X now. |
| 06:02.55 | patlabor221 | if it had arms and the right plugin, I think it could |
| 06:03.01 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 06:03.32 | Winky | How do I make it talk? |
| 06:03.34 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:03.37 | patlabor221 | a plugin |
| 06:03.56 | patlabor221 | ~bobots |
| 06:03.57 | | Bobots are everywhere! Game over man! |
| 06:04.05 | patlabor221 | well you know why. |
| 06:04.10 | captain_proton | yeah :( |
| 06:04.29 | patlabor221 | ninja bobots would have been cool |
| 06:06.03 | Winky | Unfortunately, the "talk" plugin does not seem to come with the default package. :-( |
| 06:06.13 | patlabor221 | no it dosn't |
| 06:06.28 | patlabor221 | basicly it reads all the text to you. |
| 06:07.12 | patlabor221 | huzha |
| 06:07.23 | captain_proton | oh hmm |
| 06:07.40 | captain_proton | its been ages since i saw the last episode of 2 |
| 06:07.50 | patlabor221 | I had to rewatch the end of2 |
| 06:08.31 | patlabor221 | ohhh my |
| 06:08.49 | patlabor221 | sooo it saves them, then spits them all out at once, and slowly leaks them |
| 06:09.36 | captain_proton | oh right snake lady |
| 06:09.48 | patlabor221 | hathor |
| 06:09.56 | patlabor221 | hathor bad |
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| 06:11.35 | captain_proton | hm i'd forgotten how nifty this series was |
| 06:11.57 | patlabor221 | I Have season 4 on preorder too |
| 06:12.13 | captain_proton | ooo |
| 06:12.15 | captain_proton | when does it come? |
| 06:12.26 | patlabor221 | don't know |
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| 06:13.28 | captain_proton | =} |
| 06:13.43 | patlabor221 | sept 2 |
| 06:13.48 | patlabor221 | not too bad |
| 06:13.52 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 06:14.00 | learnerAtWork | ok, jb -- you said to tell you when you are nuts.. :) |
| 06:14.06 | patlabor221 | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00009X75H/qid=1056608008/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-6126885-9223145?v=glance&s=dvd |
| 06:15.45 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: it's only 11:15 here. :{) |
| 06:16.07 | learnerAtWork | er um eh heh |
| 06:16.12 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: on the other hand, you are nuts! |
| 06:16.55 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: I actually had a client hang with g3 this evening. blending off, and lots of programs active in the background. |
| 06:17.22 | learnerAtWork | mmm... the bug is getting more angry |
| 06:17.31 | learnerAtWork | must be the lack of attention we're giving it |
| 06:17.57 | JBDiGriz | I tend to shut things down when I play, so I wonder if more happening tickles it. |
| 06:18.02 | learnerAtWork | I had the problem crash on me when I picked up a flag just earlier today.. |
| 06:19.27 | JBDiGriz | Why do so many people think I'm interested in Viagra? |
| 06:19.55 | patlabor221 | isn't EVERYON inreested in it? |
| 06:20.07 | patlabor221 | had some nasty titled ones today |
| 06:20.17 | patlabor221 | one involved barnyard animals |
| 06:20.24 | JBDiGriz | Only if I'm not part of EVERYON |
| 06:20.30 | patlabor221 | I didn't even want to clickit to delete it |
| 06:20.39 | fiberchunks | it amazes me how much spam ppl get -- I get none :\ (don't even think about it patlabor221 ) :) |
| 06:21.04 | fiberchunks | but then again, I filter based on senders -- everything else routed to trash |
| 06:21.06 | patlabor221 | what you don't need goats? |
| 06:21.07 | JBDiGriz | Almost all of my SPAM comes from the whois database. |
| 06:21.14 | fiberchunks | I love goats, and they love me |
| 06:22.00 | JBDiGriz | A certain amount comes from a time when they published email addresses in conference notes. |
| 06:27.16 | captain_proton | ooo |
| 06:27.23 | captain_proton | is it time for death gliders to start death gliding? |
| 06:27.45 | patlabor221 | I love it when they do that |
| 06:28.04 | patlabor221 | o'neil seems to say "Sweeeeeet" a lot more in season 3 |
| 06:28.23 | captain_proton | aww no death gliding |
| 06:28.28 | captain_proton | just shooty tower things |
| 06:28.45 | patlabor221 | but they are powerd, they arn't realy "gliders" |
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| 06:29.45 | Winky | Thought that was viagra entering for a second... |
| 06:39.31 | learnerAtWork | subtle |
| 06:39.45 | fiberchunks | yet robust? |
| 06:40.06 | captain_proton | ooooo its a MIND RAY |
| 06:40.25 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 06:40.35 | patlabor221 | the head thing? |
| 06:40.48 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 06:40.55 | patlabor221 | that hurts when it goes in |
| 06:41.07 | captain_proton | no not that |
| 06:41.15 | captain_proton | the mind ray that hathor was using |
| 06:41.23 | captain_proton | to suck out carter's brain |
| 06:41.38 | patlabor221 | the hand device? |
| 06:41.45 | captain_proton | yah |
| 06:42.04 | patlabor221 | yeah makes you go "ggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhh" |
| 06:42.54 | patlabor221 | now if only the snake had said "eat brans NOW!?!?" |
| 06:43.39 | captain_proton | heheh |
| 06:43.45 | captain_proton | he was still cooler in macgyver |
| 06:43.56 | patlabor221 | yeah well he was younger |
| 06:44.55 | patlabor221 | the black hole one is cool |
| 06:45.18 | learnerAtWork | way cool |
| 06:45.21 | patlabor221 | and on that note I think it's time for sleepy |
| 07:03.54 | learnerAtWork | and on that note I think it's time for sleepy |
| 07:04.06 | captain_proton | what time is it there? |
| 07:04.12 | learnerAtWork | 3am |
| 07:04.16 | learnerAtWork | you? |
| 07:04.35 | fiberchunks | 3 here too -- /me shuffles about packing clothes and stuff |
| 07:04.38 | captain_proton | 1 |
| 07:04.43 | captain_proton | wtf are you doing at work at 3am? |
| 07:04.51 | learnerAtWork | heh, fiber.. |
| 07:05.18 | learnerAtWork | heh, I some .. stuff .. to finish up.. :) |
| 07:05.50 | learnerAtWork | would've been done an hour ago..cept for .. ahem! .. |
| 07:05.58 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 07:06.23 | learnerAtWork | have a safe trip fiber (I assume you're traveling) |
| 07:06.35 | fiberchunks | now hold on a second there learnerAtWork, you telling me that DoD allows bzflag clients? ;) |
| 07:06.54 | learnerAtWork | I didn't hear that |
| 07:07.02 | learnerAtWork | huh? |
| 07:07.02 | learnerAtWork | who? |
| 07:07.19 | fiberchunks | lol -- ok boys, go get 'im |
| 07:07.21 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 07:08.04 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:08.28 | fiberchunks | ah, my poor old dog |
| 07:08.30 | fiberchunks | :\ |
| 07:08.57 | learnerAtWork | I was testing the debug capabilities of this compiler with known buggy software.. yes.. :) |
| 07:09.17 | fiberchunks | there you go -- much better |
| 07:09.29 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 07:09.44 | captain_proton | bah |
| 07:09.47 | learnerAtWork | alright -- I'm off gents |
| 07:09.47 | captain_proton | freecell is boring now |
| 07:09.52 | learnerAtWork | have a good night |
| 07:09.58 | captain_proton | it was neat when i realized it was just a complicated version of towers of hanoi |
| 07:10.01 | captain_proton | but no longer |
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| 07:42.01 | learner | Ok. So, I'm an addict and I need help. Your point? |
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| 09:12.03 | bomber | moin |
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| 09:47.09 | ak|ra | hi |
| 10:02.42 | Chestal | hi akira |
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| 11:31.22 | rooter | Chestal: any timeline on ducati coming back up? |
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| 11:32.12 | Chestal | not really, we have some problems, but there's still hope :-) |
| 11:32.25 | rooter | :) cool |
| 11:56.41 | captain_proton | well |
| 11:56.44 | captain_proton | its time to go |
| 11:56.48 | captain_proton | so see ya guys |
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| 13:01.54 | Chestal | hmm, +q, what's that? |
| 13:10.20 | ak|ra | where? |
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| 14:50.39 | Nidhoggr | whee. |
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| 15:36.17 | learner | i do not fr*cking believe what I'm reading on slashdot... *sigh* |
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| 15:50.28 | Nidhoggr | why does cvs have to be such a pain? |
| 15:52.32 | Nidhoggr | it's funny.. just when I complain about it, after it doesn't work for 10 minutes, it starts working. :) |
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| 15:57.14 | sussudio | lo pigbomber |
| 15:57.37 | sussudio | ~d |
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| 16:14.47 | Chestal | what's channel mode +q? |
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| 16:16.27 | sussudio | it's to shut someone up |
| 16:16.41 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.42 | sussudio | like /mode #bzflag +q doug*@*.* |
| 16:17.23 | Chestal | hmm |
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| 16:17.32 | Patlabor221 | it was needed last night |
| 16:17.45 | Chestal | but then, what does it mean that the channel itself has +q? does this enable this feature or what? |
| 16:17.49 | Nidhoggr | ack! |
| 16:18.07 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 16:18.24 | Chestal | or are the +q pattern only active, when the channel +q is set, too? |
| 16:18.27 | Patlabor221 | as far as I know it's suposed to be applied to people |
| 16:18.33 | Patlabor221 | maybe |
| 16:19.24 | sussudio | +q applies to users, +m applies to the whole channel |
| 16:20.51 | Chestal | hmm, whatever, still confusing |
| 16:24.39 | bryjen | http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~aps100/dancer/dancer-user-guide/dancer-user-guide/c25.html |
| 16:24.57 | bryjen | down toward the bottom |
| 16:25.49 | Patlabor221 | it's nice to have a "shut the heck up" option |
| 16:25.59 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:26.12 | Patlabor221 | tho in last nights case it became a ban. |
| 16:26.34 | sussudio | creeperz? |
| 16:27.20 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 16:27.30 | sussudio | it was just a matter of time |
| 16:27.40 | Patlabor221 | sadly |
| 16:27.55 | bryjen | Hey Patlabor221 : http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/mugs/3788/ |
| 16:28.30 | Patlabor221 | I still want the WTF? sweatshirt |
| 16:29.00 | Patlabor221 | Surely The Folks Understand? |
| 16:29.11 | Patlabor221 | Save Those Fries, Umkay? |
| 16:29.36 | Patlabor221 | funny |
| 16:35.28 | *** part/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@pD95336B5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:48.32 | Patlabor221 | theres no place like 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:50.46 | sussudio | how about 198.247.175.96 |
| 16:50.59 | Patlabor221 | naw that place sucks |
| 16:51.50 | JBDiGriz | It's finally happened, Patlabor221 has gone over the edge, and is arguing with himself. |
| 16:52.08 | Patlabor221 | no not with myself, just invisible pople |
| 16:52.25 | JBDiGriz | What are the voices telling you? |
| 16:53.23 | Patlabor221 | all kinds of stuff |
| 16:53.32 | Patlabor221 | mostly "KILL THEM ALL!"" |
| 16:53.40 | Patlabor221 | but I've learned to tune those out |
| 16:53.50 | JBDiGriz | If you want to control the voices, go buy some aluminum foil, and make yourself a hat. |
| 16:54.07 | JBDiGriz | Then take a picture of yourself and post it on centrum! |
| 16:54.11 | Patlabor221 | the steel skill plate takes are of that for me |
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| 17:08.06 | Patlabor221 | only 3 people found my picture on there the first time. |
| 17:08.52 | JBDiGriz | It wasn't on centrum. |
| 17:09.32 | Patlabor221 | well ok, but it's realy close to it :) |
| 17:09.40 | Patlabor221 | and the link to it was shown |
| 17:09.53 | Patlabor221 | there's a link to where it is on every page |
| 17:10.09 | JBDiGriz | it wasn't hard to find, only took me about 5 minutes when I actually looked |
| 17:10.10 | learnerAtWork | heh, wasn't that hard to find.. :) |
| 17:10.23 | Patlabor221 | dev searched the entire net |
| 17:10.33 | Patlabor221 | I found that funny |
| 17:10.35 | learnerAtWork | silly |
| 17:10.39 | JBDiGriz | I guess I should have a go at finding a picture of learner |
| 17:11.08 | learnerAtWork | have at it.. I'd be interested if you find anything quickly.. :) |
| 17:12.56 | learnerAtWork | 'cept, of course, the one I already posted to bzbb |
| 17:13.43 | JBDiGriz | I wasn't planning on finding one of your nephew! :{) |
| 17:17.11 | learnerAtWork | :) |
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| 17:20.48 | rooter | hello bzgirl |
| 17:20.57 | rooter | i tried out your rabbit server |
| 17:21.41 | bzgirl | we played last night |
| 17:21.53 | bzgirl | were you alone? its not very good alone |
| 17:21.58 | rooter | no one was there :( |
| 17:22.02 | rooter | oh well |
| 17:22.40 | bzgirl | theres a match on roses now |
| 17:22.43 | bzgirl | i think |
| 17:22.44 | rooter | that's ok, with jumping i would have got killed |
| 17:22.47 | rooter | yes |
| 17:22.57 | rooter | i was just there |
| 17:23.17 | rooter | i was looking for teammates to match but they are all gone |
| 17:24.03 | bzgirl | what team is strayer on? |
| 17:24.32 | learnerAtWork | there's an idea.. |
| 17:24.41 | rooter | got me? |
| 17:24.48 | learnerAtWork | rabbit chase where the rabbit has high speed and jumping |
| 17:24.56 | learnerAtWork | and nobody else does.. :) |
| 17:25.09 | rooter | Strayer is on HOW |
| 17:25.29 | Patlabor221 | if no one else had jump, the rabit could hide to easaly |
| 17:25.53 | rooter | bzgirl: they are looking for uou |
| 17:25.57 | Patlabor221 | V would be good |
| 17:26.01 | rooter | on rosemyers: 59999 |
| 17:26.10 | learnerAtWork | hmm.. true pat |
| 17:26.26 | rooter | i think no one should have jump |
| 17:27.02 | Patlabor221 | jump can be fun, just makes it more complicated |
| 17:27.33 | Patlabor221 | the ST rabbit was EVIL |
| 17:28.11 | rooter | who ever heard of a jumping rabbit |
| 17:28.18 | rooter | doh, i mean tank |
| 17:28.40 | Patlabor221 | who ever heard of a tank that can't move its turret? |
| 17:28.45 | rooter | too true |
| 17:28.49 | Patlabor221 | and fires infinate missiles :) |
| 17:29.04 | rooter | who ever heard of a red tank for that matter |
| 17:29.13 | Patlabor221 | the russians |
| 17:29.13 | learnerAtWork | heheh, yes.. stealth was a pain in the butt |
| 17:29.41 | learnerAtWork | cap abused us with it.. :) |
| 17:29.47 | Patlabor221 | the ST rabbit reminded me of the movie Aliens.. "no overe here.. gahhhhhhppppppppp" |
| 17:29.55 | learnerAtWork | LOL! |
| 17:30.18 | JBDiGriz | I think it was fiberchunks who really used st to the fullest. |
| 17:30.18 | learnerAtWork | I think 3-4 times I turned around a corner and screamed gahHH!!! |
| 17:30.28 | Patlabor221 | cus we were all moving around slow lookin for him |
| 17:30.35 | Patlabor221 | yeah then you shot me! :) |
| 17:30.36 | learnerAtWork | er, yea -- meant fiber |
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| 17:31.35 | JBDiGriz | We would have done better with team communications, but it was hard to let the other peons know without letting the rabbit in on the information. |
| 17:31.43 | learnerAtWork | maybe high-speed + jumping on an empty field or one with really really high buildings that can't be jumped on.. |
| 17:32.24 | Patlabor221 | just to hide behind |
| 17:32.39 | learnerAtWork | yes.. |
| 17:32.44 | JBDiGriz | jumping would be a bad idea for the rabbit on that map, he might shoot one of the hunters, but the others would be there to wipe him out as he lands |
| 17:33.23 | learnerAtWork | all the more fun.. :) |
| 17:33.30 | Patlabor221 | yeah that happend a bit last night in the open areas, rabbit would jump then get nailed by like 5 shots as they landed |
| 17:33.44 | Patlabor221 | that map has too many places to hide |
| 17:34.00 | JBDiGriz | that map was a little too complex for my client |
| 17:34.04 | Patlabor221 | and the "I'll hang out up high with SW" |
| 17:34.34 | Patlabor221 | if you want it to be a chase, you can't give the rabit places to camp |
| 17:34.43 | JBDiGriz | there were several solutions to the "high on sw" problem |
| 17:34.47 | learnerAtWork | yea.. and if a really good FFA player had been on, we'd have all be smoked with GM.. |
| 17:35.27 | learnerAtWork | yea.. I think it should be like real hunting, where the chased has very little offensive capabilities |
| 17:35.32 | learnerAtWork | more about escaping capture |
| 17:35.35 | JBDiGriz | lots of good solutions to someone camping with gm as well |
| 17:35.53 | bzgirl | breadhat is going to make me a map specifically for rabbit hunt, arnet you doug? |
| 17:36.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*@*.lou.bluegrass.net] by Patlabor221 |
| 17:36.54 | Patlabor221 | if he's still gonna be here may as well let him use his real name |
| 17:37.06 | bzgirl | :) |
| 17:37.17 | Patlabor221 | and he does get ON topic every soften |
| 17:37.24 | Patlabor221 | on the solstices |
| 17:38.25 | Patlabor221 | I realy think a sound when you become bunny would be nice |
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| 17:38.35 | learnerAtWork | YES! |
| 17:38.39 | Patlabor221 | for bunnification |
| 17:38.42 | strayer | hi |
| 17:38.53 | Patlabor221 | cus often I didn't know I was gonna be the bunny |
| 17:38.56 | learnerAtWork | I was bunny 3-4 times and I had no clue until I noticed everyone shooting at me!! |
| 17:38.57 | Patlabor221 | or even was the bunny |
| 17:39.00 | strayer | bzgirl: were U kicked too? |
| 17:39.28 | bzgirl | strayer: everyone went nr to me |
| 17:39.36 | bzgirl | even though i was observing |
| 17:39.41 | strayer | ah...then it's ok... :) |
| 17:39.42 | JBDiGriz | How can we notify when we're next in line to become the bunny? |
| 17:40.02 | Patlabor221 | maybe highlight there name in a gray in the score? |
| 17:40.24 | Patlabor221 | for the "next in line" |
| 17:40.24 | bzgirl | also the bunnies text should be not white :) |
| 17:40.30 | sussudio | :-P |
| 17:40.32 | strayer | bzgirl: it seems the server crashed....it's not possible to contact on any port |
| 17:40.33 | learnerAtWork | hehe.. we could give the bunny wide angle vision.. :) |
| 17:40.45 | Patlabor221 | oooo that would hurt |
| 17:40.46 | bzgirl | strayer: i will try to restart it |
| 17:40.57 | strayer | okidoki |
| 17:41.04 | Patlabor221 | I say start with just giving them V |
| 17:41.10 | learnerAtWork | I think that would be cool.. high speed, jumping, and wide angle vision.. :) |
| 17:41.14 | Patlabor221 | and maybe momenutm :) |
| 17:41.17 | rooter | i think the bunny should be faster than the... wolves? |
| 17:41.43 | Patlabor221 | all the non bunnies should be the "fudds" |
| 17:41.59 | learnerAtWork | not the 150 degree penalty of the bad flag, but maybe 120 degree or something |
| 17:42.16 | Patlabor221 | I would not want that, woudl hurt |
| 17:42.23 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 17:43.02 | learnerAtWork | it would help curtail offensive bunnies for sure.. they'd have to run |
| 17:43.04 | JBDiGriz | ooooh, that's wascally paht. |
| 17:43.57 | Chestal | give qt to the bunny |
| 17:44.04 | JBDiGriz | I liked the concept of the "Alien" bunny as well. |
| 17:44.13 | Chestal | with the power of qt the bunny will be able to defeat all his enemies |
| 17:44.22 | strayer | yes...QT and V is quiet hard to control the tank then |
| 17:44.31 | Patlabor221 | qt? |
| 17:44.36 | Chestal | A |
| 17:44.37 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 17:44.46 | Patlabor221 | that would be interesting |
| 17:44.53 | strayer | nyupp :) |
| 17:45.08 | Chestal | or maybe only allow the bunny to pick up flags |
| 17:45.17 | bzgirl | qt & v but cant shoot |
| 17:45.23 | JBDiGriz | You're devising a strategy where people will avoid being the bunny. |
| 17:45.28 | Patlabor221 | ooooooo |
| 17:45.33 | Chestal | I am not |
| 17:45.39 | Patlabor221 | or let them shoot but not get any other flags |
| 17:45.44 | learnerAtWork | QT? which is that? |
| 17:45.48 | Chestal | quick turn |
| 17:45.56 | learnerAtWork | ah, yes |
| 17:45.56 | sussudio | quick turn is A |
| 17:45.57 | Chestal | one of the grossly unerestimated flags |
| 17:46.06 | strayer | A = agility? |
| 17:46.11 | sussudio | angular velocity |
| 17:46.19 | JBDiGriz | I find A to be difficult to control in many situations. |
| 17:46.51 | learnerAtWork | even better... quick turning, high-speed, wide-vision, jumping.. mmm, I like it |
| 17:46.59 | Chestal | A is difficult to use, but when you can, it's very powerful, especialyl in close combat and against several opponents |
| 17:47.00 | strayer | hehe... |
| 17:47.02 | learnerAtWork | yet can't pick up other flags |
| 17:47.44 | bryjen | If the flags were divided into defensive and offensive, the bunny could only be allowed defensive flags |
| 17:47.45 | strayer | would momentum compensate the combination of A and V? |
| 17:47.48 | learnerAtWork | everyone else could, of course.. :) |
| 17:48.13 | bzgirl | strayer: try the server now |
| 17:48.16 | Chestal | are we talking about koth style here? |
| 17:48.31 | learnerAtWork | the misnomer "koth" -- yes |
| 17:48.43 | Chestal | I never tried it. When exactly does the king change? |
| 17:49.00 | JBDiGriz | When the previous king dies. |
| 17:49.17 | strayer | bzgirl: thx....but the other players R gone.. |
| 17:49.24 | Chestal | so then the player which got the 2nd highest score becomes king? |
| 17:49.37 | learnerAtWork | one player is designated "king" and everyone basically goes after him, kinda like a one-man team |
| 17:49.43 | JBDiGriz | Next highest and still alive. |
| 17:49.44 | Patlabor221 | the person with the highest score and is alive gets it |
| 17:49.49 | bzgirl | strayer you want a match? |
| 17:49.56 | Chestal | ah, hmm |
| 17:50.03 | strayer | bzgirl: yupp |
| 17:50.10 | Chestal | lwt's say palyer a has +100 but is dead, player b with +50 is king |
| 17:50.16 | JBDiGriz | Although it had some interesting effects when Patlabor221 and I were the only two left |
| 17:50.17 | learnerAtWork | actually is rather fun, just needs some work, and shouldn't be called koth |
| 17:50.25 | strayer | bzgirl: vs bamf?... |
| 17:50.25 | bzgirl | strayer: find canage then, bamf and will play you |
| 17:50.27 | Chestal | player a starts playing, will he become king immediately or only after B has died |
| 17:50.40 | bryjen | only when someone dies I believe |
| 17:50.41 | Patlabor221 | only after b has died |
| 17:50.45 | strayer | bzgirl: we can also play with mirella |
| 17:50.50 | Patlabor221 | kings are only anoited on deaths |
| 17:50.56 | Patlabor221 | basicly king for life! |
| 17:51.04 | learnerAtWork | or king until death.. |
| 17:51.11 | JBDiGriz | with lots of assassins running around! |
| 17:51.12 | bzgirl | strayer: we dont have a third yet |
| 17:51.13 | Patlabor221 | pecemist |
| 17:51.34 | Patlabor221 | what does it do if there is a tie? |
| 17:51.36 | Patlabor221 | just pick one? |
| 17:51.53 | learnerAtWork | I wondered that too.. I think it takes the first listed, iirc from last night |
| 17:52.06 | JBDiGriz | There was an algorithm discussed on the patch, but I forget what it was. |
| 17:52.06 | strayer | bzgirl: no...I mean mirella instead of carnage.....I cannot find carnage |
| 17:52.08 | Patlabor221 | should random it |
| 17:52.21 | bzgirl | strayer: carnage was on rosemeyers |
| 17:52.27 | learnerAtWork | ~rose |
| 17:52.32 | strayer | yes...he 'was'... |
| 17:52.59 | strayer | oh..he still is |
| 17:53.10 | Patlabor221 | how is ol' Nathan doing? |
| 17:53.52 | sussudio | \bz |
| 17:55.35 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: have you fiddled with the autoconf config.h generation for os x? |
| 17:57.21 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Not for a while, I mostly got it working for g2. |
| 17:57.39 | learnerAtWork | there's a problem.. |
| 17:57.50 | learnerAtWork | and I haven't figured out a good solution |
| 17:58.25 | learnerAtWork | if you use configure/make/make install, it sets the resource directory location to /usr/local/share/... etc |
| 17:58.36 | learnerAtWork | if you use PB, it does the same.. |
| 17:58.59 | learnerAtWork | which is obviously wrong.. |
| 17:59.29 | JBDiGriz | which is why there's a separate mac function to discover the data directory |
| 17:59.34 | learnerAtWork | needs to be something relative when built within PB (maybe ../../Resources) |
| 17:59.55 | learnerAtWork | it doesn't seem to be working any more for me, at least |
| 18:03.25 | bryjen | Patlabor221: the test in annointNewKing() uses > , so if two players tie, the first one the loop gets to is kinged |
| 18:03.54 | bryjen | its not just straight scores tho, so maybe a tie is less likely |
| 18:04.06 | Patlabor221 | yeah I think that should be random from the people who qualify |
| 18:04.23 | Patlabor221 | cus if you had 2 people who were saying tied, the same one would allways be king |
| 18:04.59 | bryjen | hmmm, yup |
| 18:06.18 | JBDiGriz | According to the patch it's (wins-losses)*wins/10 |
| 18:06.32 | bryjen | i dont get why its checking (i != kingIndex) when kingIndex is set to zero at the top of the function |
| 18:06.36 | Chestal | hmm, don't know if randomizing is really necessary |
| 18:07.10 | Patlabor221 | maybe not |
| 18:07.13 | Patlabor221 | was just an idea |
| 18:08.10 | Patlabor221 | a sound when you are made king, and perhaps highlighting "he who would be king" would be nice |
| 18:08.54 | learnerAtWork | bunny.. there is no king |
| 18:08.59 | learnerAtWork | :| |
| 18:09.05 | Chestal | the king stuff seems to assume that 0 is not a valid player index |
| 18:09.09 | bzgirl | but if your next in line, your going to not hunt, nut farm flags |
| 18:09.10 | Chestal | but I think it is? |
| 18:09.14 | bryjen | a trumpet salute? |
| 18:09.18 | bzgirl | not* |
| 18:09.27 | bzgirl | but* |
| 18:09.34 | JBDiGriz | maybe it should be a bunny with big pointy teeth? |
| 18:09.38 | learnerAtWork | Ches, there was a problem with the list server being assigned player 0.. |
| 18:09.39 | Patlabor221 | maybe, or you may position yourself difrent when you kill the king |
| 18:09.54 | Patlabor221 | "that rabbit's DYNAmyte!!" |
| 18:10.09 | JBDiGriz | we need a hhg flag |
| 18:10.18 | Chestal | learner: uh? should then fheck for valid paleyr state |
| 18:10.24 | Patlabor221 | 1....2....... 5 |
| 18:10.26 | Chestal | the lsit server can connect temp. on any player slot |
| 18:10.33 | JBDiGriz | no three sir, three! |
| 18:10.36 | Chestal | fd!=notconnected should be dumped |
| 18:10.44 | bryjen | it does check (player[i].fd != NotConnected) |
| 18:10.51 | Chestal | and replaced by .state checks |
| 18:11.05 | Chestal | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.17 | Chestal | that is true for normal playes that are dead or alive |
| 18:11.29 | Chestal | should probably also exclude observers |
| 18:12.02 | learnerAtWork | heheh, yes.. I discovered that gem yesterday |
| 18:12.14 | bryjen | there's two loops. 1st looks for PlayerAlive. |
| 18:14.09 | bryjen | What state does an observer get? |
| 18:16.24 | sussudio | observers should observe. not talk. |
| 18:16.32 | learnerAtWork | ?? |
| 18:17.00 | sussudio | chikoritaspiff*cough* |
| 18:17.26 | *** part/#bzflag strayer (~s-t-r-a-y@p50911457.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:22.15 | bryjen | Hmmmm. Everybody gets init'ed PlayerDead... MsgAlive isn't relayed for them.... Eek, we're watched by dead peoples ;) |
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| 18:25.19 | JBDiGriz | I see dead people. |
| 18:25.36 | bryjen | No, but they see you! |
| 18:25.43 | bryjen | :) |
| 18:39.59 | Chestal | in annointKing, the check for fd can get removed |
| 18:40.04 | Chestal | no player without an fd can be alive |
| 18:40.12 | Chestal | also i!=kingindex makes no sense |
| 18:40.25 | Chestal | and kingindex should be initialized with -1 or so |
| 18:45.13 | bryjen | farther up in the program, kingIndex is initialized to 1, with a comment that "first player is playerid = 1" |
| 18:45.58 | Chestal | I don't think that is correct, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 18:46.11 | Chestal | all the loops iterating over the palyer array start at 0, don;t they? |
| 18:46.15 | bryjen | there's logic in addPlayer() to check for first player |
| 18:46.42 | bryjen | I've got logs with lines like "Player foo [0] joined" |
| 18:46.45 | Chestal | so kingindex probably does not need to be init. anyway |
| 18:49.09 | bryjen | the firstplayer stuff at the top of addPlayer() appears to only be used to set kingIndex farther down in addPlayer() |
| 18:49.42 | Chestal | hmm, MsgNewKing is sent via UDP? shouldn't it be a reliable message? |
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| 18:53.20 | learnerAtWork | yes, it should be |
| 18:57.36 | Chestal | urgs |
| 18:57.55 | sussudio | g0 should die |
| 18:58.01 | learnerAtWork | features.. they are features :) |
| 18:58.21 | david_v | lol |
| 18:58.55 | sussudio | remember the 'subtle cheats' topic? that's basically everyone using g0 now, i'm afraid. |
| 18:58.57 | david_v | so getting rid of bugs just comes down to learning the programmers what people dislike, no? :) |
| 18:59.18 | Chestal | g0? why g0? |
| 18:59.41 | sussudio | because people have been making modified clients and putting them out there. they've shifted from e6 to g0 |
| 18:59.51 | sussudio | except for numbersguy, all cheaters are using g0 now |
| 19:02.58 | bzgirl | rooter: |
| 19:03.48 | sussudio | bzgirl: |
| 19:09.45 | CIA | commit by chestal: always use direct message buffer when calling directMessage() or broadcastMessage(); this is very error prone, redesign? |
| 19:10.44 | Chestal | hmm, what if there is no king? |
| 19:11.50 | bryjen | When would that happen? |
| 19:12.33 | Chestal | server is empty, observer joins? |
| 19:13.34 | bryjen | ok. then there is a "player" and no king. kindIndex = -1 then ? |
| 19:13.41 | bryjen | s/kind/king |
| 19:13.59 | Chestal | must check client code to see whether it is handled |
| 19:14.05 | learnerAtWork | s/kin[dg]/bunny] |
| 19:14.59 | bryjen | did somebody s/Patlabor221/learnerAtWork ? |
| 19:16.13 | bryjen | Or was it learnerAtWork who started the lets-call-it-something-else ? |
| 19:16.26 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 19:16.35 | sussudio | hmm this pepsi X has more caffeine than red bull |
| 19:17.04 | learnerAtWork | I think we both had the same opposition to calling it king -- elvis is dead :) |
| 19:17.22 | learnerAtWork | "pepsi X" ? |
| 19:17.28 | Chestal | urgs,m harley kriegt broken pipes |
| 19:17.29 | Chestal | oops |
| 19:17.50 | learnerAtWork | good thing that made no sense |
| 19:17.57 | sussudio | learnerAtWork: we're a test-area for this stuf i think |
| 19:18.31 | learnerAtWork | heh.. sounds like damage control |
| 19:19.26 | sussudio | USians are probably too sue-happy |
| 19:19.41 | learnerAtWork | probably |
| 19:20.08 | sussudio | hm says guarana and taurine too :-| |
| 19:20.15 | sussudio | it tastes like really sweet rootbeer |
| 19:20.41 | learnerAtWork | blech.. glad you're testing it then! |
| 19:21.37 | sussudio | ~google for maltodextrine |
| 19:21.43 | Noodlebot | Battery, http://www.batterydrink.com/global/facts_mal.html |
| 19:21.43 | Noodlebot | Maltodextrine, http://www.margarine-institut.de/eintraege/maltodextrine.htm |
| 19:21.43 | Noodlebot | MALTODEXTRINE, http://www.biam2.org/www/Sna12620.html |
| 19:22.06 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: who's been teaching you manners? |
| 19:22.35 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 19:22.38 | learnerAtWork | you, good sir |
| 19:22.56 | JBDiGriz | I didn't think it was working! :{) |
| 19:23.01 | sussudio | " Maltodextrine is a carbohydrate combination that provides long-lasting energy, and can be found in vast amounts in wheat, oat and corn grains. Maltodextrine is broken down into glucose molecules by the body's enzymes so that it can be absorbed quickly. The body gets energy from maltodextrine gradually, easily and evenly." |
| 19:23.04 | sussudio | meh |
| 19:23.06 | learnerAtWork | hah! :) |
| 19:26.32 | Chestal | why that /10.0f in the kign ratio calc? |
| 19:28.59 | bryjen | and the * before it? |
| 19:29.54 | bryjen | expands to NetWins * (One tenth of GrossWins) |
| 19:30.20 | bryjen | is that a ratio or a factor? |
| 19:32.41 | bryjen | ~dict factor |
| 19:33.12 | bryjen | oops factor * factor = product |
| 19:34.06 | bryjen | meebee call it superSpecialKingIndicator ;) |
| 19:34.36 | sussudio | this 21" monitor uses less energy than my previous 15" one |
| 19:35.01 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 19:38.05 | learnerAtWork | I have an old sparc notebook that uses more power than my entire workstation |
| 19:40.33 | sussudio | the crotchburner 2000? |
| 19:42.43 | learnerAtWork | heh.. heats up a whole room, yes -- and it was "portable" |
| 19:43.28 | bryjen | luggable |
| 19:45.06 | Secret_Hamster | yea I remember them |
| 19:45.15 | Secret_Hamster | slow as f as well. |
| 19:46.08 | Secret_Hamster | used to have a lab. if we needed extra heating in the lab we'd fire them up and leave them |
| 19:46.42 | learnerAtWork | heh.. I've been trying to revive it for months |
| 19:46.54 | learnerAtWork | no os installed, took weeks to find software |
| 19:47.08 | learnerAtWork | traded a spare hard-drive for original os disks |
| 19:47.21 | learnerAtWork | now if I could only find a sparc tadpole cdrom... |
| 19:47.34 | learnerAtWork | or another sparc to netboot it.. |
| 19:50.51 | Patlabor221 | wow, creeper says he would "spit in my food, and hope I choke and die. Or just choke" |
| 19:51.33 | sussudio | Patlabor221: did you tell him you'd tell his mom? |
| 19:53.18 | Patlabor221 | naw he signed off before I got back. |
| 19:53.32 | learnerAtWork | so .. how'd it taste? |
| 19:53.57 | learnerAtWork | jk |
| 19:54.18 | Patlabor221 | ohh lunch, was a roast beef sandwitch with avacado, was great |
| 19:55.22 | learnerAtWork | mmmm.. feef |
| 19:55.26 | learnerAtWork | er, beef |
| 19:56.28 | sussudio | no pork? |
| 20:00.42 | Patlabor221 | nope |
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| 20:27.17 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I think I've actualy come up with an idea for a rabbit map |
| 20:27.34 | doughecka | joy |
| 20:27.38 | sussudio | you put decoy bunnies in there so they'll try to hump then? |
| 20:27.56 | Patlabor221 | ummm no |
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| 20:31.55 | doughecka | how high can tanks jump? |
| 20:32.01 | doughecka | and how tall are they |
| 20:32.04 | Patlabor221 | 18 units I think |
| 20:32.09 | doughecka | hmm, k |
| 20:32.10 | Patlabor221 | checkt he shellshock site |
| 20:32.15 | Patlabor221 | it has a list |
| 20:32.20 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:34.02 | learnerAtWork | ah, but how FAR is the real question.. |
| 20:34.11 | doughecka | hehehe |
| 20:34.39 | Patlabor221 | I think we did the math once |
| 20:34.44 | Patlabor221 | I don't recall the answer |
| 20:34.54 | learnerAtWork | heh, then why'd you do the math? :) |
| 20:35.00 | doughecka | hm, math |
| 20:35.08 | doughecka | how fast do the tanks go? |
| 20:35.10 | Patlabor221 | it was a while a go |
| 20:35.12 | doughecka | 25 units/s? |
| 20:35.25 | Patlabor221 | maybe |
| 20:36.12 | doughecka | we would need to know how long it takes to reach 18 units, right? |
| 20:36.38 | Patlabor221 | well realy just the gravity |
| 20:36.44 | Patlabor221 | the reset can be calced |
| 20:36.47 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:36.59 | Patlabor221 | 9.81 I think |
| 20:37.32 | doughecka | so... 9.84 units acceleration per second? |
| 20:37.36 | doughecka | that sounds wrong |
| 20:37.45 | Patlabor221 | for what? |
| 20:37.49 | Patlabor221 | a jump has no acceleation |
| 20:37.56 | doughecka | oh yea |
| 20:37.59 | larsl_56k | Downwards acceleration. |
| 20:38.10 | Patlabor221 | gravity is is -9.81 m/s^2 |
| 20:43.20 | bryjen | const float JumpVelocity = 19.0f; // m/s |
| 20:46.02 | doughecka | hmm, 78 blocks so far... not bad |
| 20:46.43 | Patlabor221 | creeperz wants back in, even if he has to be silenced, so he "can hear what is going on" what say all of you? |
| 20:47.05 | doughecka | +q :P |
| 20:47.32 | Patlabor221 | anyone else have an option? |
| 20:47.39 | doughecka | also I believe a ban will also quiet a user bydefault |
| 20:47.46 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 20:47.50 | Patlabor221 | it does |
| 20:47.59 | learnerAtWork | you kicked him, so it's up to you.. :) |
| 20:48.18 | Patlabor221 | yeah but it's good to do the democracy thing every so often |
| 20:48.33 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b+q creeperz!*@* *creeperz!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 20:48.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net] by Patlabor221 |
| 20:48.51 | learnerAtWork | heh.. then I'd vote for letting him back in (but then I'm a big softie) |
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| 20:49.27 | doughecka | so what was that good idea for a map? |
| 20:49.39 | Patlabor221 | you were voted off the island onece too |
| 20:50.06 | sussudio | was not |
| 20:50.17 | Patlabor221 | yeah we just never told you |
| 20:50.19 | JBDiGriz | I believe voting only occurs in a democracy. :{) |
| 20:50.52 | Patlabor221 | or psudo democracys |
| 20:50.59 | Patlabor221 | they are only counted in real democracys |
| 20:52.15 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure there are lots of them |
| 20:52.31 | doughecka | so the KOTH client is OK, just the server is iffy? |
| 20:52.53 | Patlabor221 | it works |
| 20:53.09 | Patlabor221 | but there are some sugested changes that have not been implemented |
| 20:53.20 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:53.23 | bzgirl | has anything been decided? |
| 20:53.32 | Patlabor221 | the team thing definatly |
| 20:53.35 | bzgirl | or just bantied about |
| 20:53.46 | bryjen | Patlabor221: how's the bzedit poll turn out? |
| 20:53.49 | doughecka | cant it be just all rouge by defautl? |
| 20:54.02 | Patlabor221 | maybe it would be cool if you could specify what flags the rabbit gets in the command line |
| 20:54.10 | Patlabor221 | I think like 3 people answerd it |
| 20:54.24 | bryjen | Laser Bunnies |
| 20:54.37 | bzgirl | so you could have rabbit flags and hunter flags |
| 20:54.51 | doughecka | bryjen = bunnies, sussudio = pigs... need 2 more people :P |
| 20:55.01 | Patlabor221 | well, like what flags the rabgit gets automaticly |
| 20:55.07 | bryjen | Wha? |
| 20:55.22 | Patlabor221 | if oyu don't specify any rabbit flags, it works like it does now |
| 20:55.31 | bryjen | Patlabor221 or learnerAtWork started the rabbit/bunny thing. |
| 20:55.46 | Patlabor221 | it's not KOTH |
| 20:55.51 | Patlabor221 | and cap is just too lazy to change it |
| 20:56.07 | doughecka | how about llama hunt? ;) |
| 20:56.22 | bryjen | hmmm _KOTH_ -KOTH- |
| 20:56.24 | Patlabor221 | how bout munchkin hunt? |
| 20:56.31 | bryjen | can't over-line things |
| 20:56.37 | doughecka | sounds cool |
| 20:56.59 | Patlabor221 | rabbit hunt seems to fit the game type as a better name |
| 20:57.08 | Patlabor221 | since it's more of a "chase" thing |
| 20:57.15 | bryjen | somebody suggested fox hunt |
| 20:57.24 | Patlabor221 | that would work as well |
| 20:57.28 | JBDiGriz | Fox and Hounds, since the object has teeth |
| 20:57.32 | bryjen | but then the guy would need to be red ;) |
| 20:57.37 | Patlabor221 | but you turn white, so bunny fitts |
| 20:57.38 | doughecka | cops and robber :P |
| 20:57.50 | doughecka | sheep hunt |
| 20:57.56 | Patlabor221 | I would reserve that for one flag CTF |
| 20:58.04 | doughecka | oh right |
| 20:58.07 | JBDiGriz | Alien Hunt |
| 20:58.15 | bryjen | One flag CTF? |
| 20:58.27 | doughecka | JBDiGriz, stop it, your scaring away people |
| 20:58.29 | Patlabor221 | yeah, one flag 2 bases |
| 20:58.30 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:58.39 | Patlabor221 | one team defends |
| 20:58.43 | Patlabor221 | the other steals |
| 20:58.53 | doughecka | eh? |
| 20:58.59 | JBDiGriz | doughecka: You were'nt there last night when fiberchunks would pop out from behind a corner and nail someone. |
| 20:59.08 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:59.13 | Patlabor221 | there is that aspect |
| 20:59.20 | doughecka | I thought it was the flag would be randomly dropped, and each team would fight to have it |
| 20:59.24 | Patlabor221 | vicous rabbit!!!! |
| 20:59.36 | doughecka | hmm, no, that would be robbers vs robbers |
| 20:59.37 | Patlabor221 | doug that is true 1 flag CTF |
| 20:59.44 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:59.49 | Patlabor221 | cops and robers is where it spawns in the cops base |
| 20:59.56 | Patlabor221 | they are very simialr |
| 20:59.59 | doughecka | k |
| 21:00.05 | doughecka | should be easy to make on when the other is made |
| 21:01.12 | sussudio | aww tupone you chicken |
| 21:01.35 | sussudio | why does it give the team flag alarm when someone picks up the velocity flag? |
| 21:01.51 | doughecka | it is an alarm :) |
| 21:02.44 | Tupone | sussudio: My client segfaulted |
| 21:03.23 | sussudio | ah. |
| 21:04.50 | Patlabor221 | well cap is gone, I coudl change it to rabbit now :) |
| 21:04.56 | sussudio | c3po: grabbed Wide Angle flag |
| 21:04.56 | sussudio | c3po: dropped Wide Angle flag |
| 21:04.56 | sussudio | c3po: signing off |
| 21:05.31 | doughecka | would think r2d2 would just auto shoot him :) |
| 21:08.30 | learnerAtWork | go for it pat :) |
| 21:08.35 | learnerAtWork | if you don't.. I will |
| 21:11.14 | JBDiGriz | Boy, capn starts this subversive movement, and the moment his back is turned, they all turn on him! :{) |
| 21:11.30 | doughecka | capn is back? |
| 21:11.38 | learnerAtWork | he's back?! |
| 21:12.00 | JBDiGriz | He'll be back in a few days, but watch out for the auto-FIST :P |
| 21:12.14 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 21:12.41 | doughecka | brb |
| 21:12.56 | JBDiGriz | The LearnerTracker flips over twice, and attaches itself to doughecka |
| 21:13.10 | learnerAtWork | then it explodes |
| 21:13.25 | JBDiGriz | and falls down into an endless gorge |
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| 21:17.11 | Patlabor221 | now if the hunted couldn't shoot and had V that would be a roadrunner |
| 21:17.18 | Patlabor221 | V and 00 :) |
| 21:17.45 | JBDiGriz | I want a few new flags for the coyotes! |
| 21:18.18 | JBDiGriz | and gm has to have a slight variation |
| 21:18.29 | learnerAtWork | turns on the shooter? :) |
| 21:18.51 | JBDiGriz | after making a couple of turns around the arena |
| 21:19.24 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 21:19.31 | Patlabor221 | it would have to leave a scorch mark |
| 21:19.46 | Patlabor221 | and you' would have to hold up a sign |
| 21:20.00 | JBDiGriz | and we need a cool animation of a dust cloud for coyotes jumping off buildings |
| 21:20.29 | Patlabor221 | we need lots of things |
| 21:30.13 | bryjen | the roadrunner should leave a dust cloud when running past the edge of a building. And not fall until he stops moving forward. |
| 21:30.48 | JBDiGriz | I might have to sign in as "Wiley Coyote" for these hunting expeditions. :) |
| 21:31.16 | learnerAtWork | only if you never intend to become the roadrunner... L:) |
| 21:31.36 | JBDiGriz | After last night, I was lucky to get close! |
| 21:32.03 | Patlabor221 | I was suprised to be the king every so often |
| 21:32.06 | Patlabor221 | I died a LOT |
| 21:33.27 | learnerAtWork | don't worry pat -- everyone else was probably just blown up by shockwave -- you were just the only one left.. :) |
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| 21:34.12 | JBDiGriz | Doesn't learnerAtWork always know exactly the right thing to say to make you feel good about yourself? :P |
| 21:34.27 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 21:34.51 | learnerAtWork | heheh, only because I often was the one blowing "everyone" up with the shockwave.. :) |
| 21:35.16 | JBDiGriz | and getting shot while doing it! :{) |
| 21:35.26 | learnerAtWork | yep |
| 21:37.05 | learnerAtWork | I only shot you a half dozen times last night, jb.. :) |
| 21:37.34 | JBDiGriz | and how many times did you shoot me when I was the "king"? |
| 21:37.50 | learnerAtWork | hehehe... |
| 21:39.28 | JBDiGriz | New bzflag motto: Shoot em all, let the respawn sort em out. |
| 21:39.43 | bryjen | Is it an option to penalize the hunters for shooting each other ? |
| 21:40.11 | JBDiGriz | It hasn't been added, but it certainly has been discussed! :) |
| 21:40.41 | JBDiGriz | My feeling is that the hunters should have all team privileges and responsibilities |
| 21:40.48 | Patlabor221 | I think we all agree that they should be on the same team |
| 21:40.58 | Patlabor221 | so they can talk, and use the servers TK rules |
| 21:41.10 | bryjen | the -tk option would take care of it if the were "teamed" |
| 21:41.18 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:42.30 | learnerAtWork | that would be a bit more work, afaik, since there is no team swapping that presently goes on -- the king is just drawn special |
| 21:42.47 | learnerAtWork | but it woudl definately be a good idea |
| 21:43.36 | bzgirl | ~bzg2 |
| 21:44.16 | learnerAtWork | bunnies.. |
| 21:46.13 | bryjen | just a little more logic under MsgKilled in the client. If KillersNotKing and VictimsNotKig then it was a "team" kill |
| 21:46.30 | bryjen | Kig? WTH? |
| 21:47.40 | doughecka | 2 kings? |
| 21:49.10 | bryjen | n/m. too hackish. needs to be real teams to get chat. |
| 21:50.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:51.12 | Patlabor221 | and so the normal TK options can be applied |
| 21:51.23 | Patlabor221 | I don't know how the system will hande a team change |
| 21:51.28 | Patlabor221 | since that dosn't happen normaly |
| 21:51.47 | bryjen | assumptions made about the rogue "team" before might make teaming them now a bit hairy |
| 21:52.18 | doughecka | hmm, so your thinking of realtime team change? |
| 21:52.22 | doughecka | no reconnect? |
| 21:53.17 | learnerAtWork | what'd I do sussudio? |
| 21:54.30 | bryjen | doughecka: in the KOTH game style, having the hunters be on a team. When the king changes, the team memberships change |
| 21:54.43 | sussudio | learnerAtWork: taunt the bunnies |
| 21:54.51 | doughecka | ah, cool |
| 21:55.03 | learnerAtWork | hehe... oh |
| 21:55.18 | learnerAtWork | sussudio: I meant bunnies is on bzg2's server.. :P |
| 21:55.20 | doughecka | sussudio: it says.... "Do not taunt the happy fun ball" |
| 21:55.33 | learnerAtWork | ~bzg2 |
| 21:55.51 | learnerAtWork | but not anymore apparently |
| 21:56.19 | doughecka | isnt bunnies... um, sussudio? |
| 21:56.31 | learnerAtWork | HA! really?! |
| 21:56.55 | doughecka | I cant think of any other who would use the name |
| 21:57.04 | learnerAtWork | and is sussi==sussudio too? |
| 21:57.10 | doughecka | yep |
| 21:57.10 | sussudio | no |
| 21:57.14 | doughecka | :P |
| 21:57.41 | doughecka | hmm, odd, I have 3 cdroms in my computer |
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| 22:23.04 | jzaun | Anyone here compile a 2.5 kernel yet? |
| 22:23.58 | scanline | mmmmyep |
| 22:24.12 | jzaun | how u like the new config utility? |
| 22:24.13 | Nidhoggr | hrm. cvs keeps hanging at the same place for me. |
| 22:24.44 | scanline | jzaun: it's an improvement... I actually used 2.5's config utility before I ever compiled 2.5 though :) |
| 22:25.27 | jzaun | scanline: I like the idea but it need help, took 3 times as long to config with it |
| 22:26.01 | scanline | uh.. why? the frontend is basically the same, it's mainly the config language that changed |
| 22:26.44 | jzaun | nah, gconfig is compleatly different |
| 22:26.58 | scanline | oh, you're talking about the graphical stuff |
| 22:27.18 | scanline | haven't tried that, I'm perfectly fine without it |
| 22:27.50 | jzaun | heh, xconfig if for QT gconfig is for gtk |
| 22:28.00 | scanline | I know that |
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| 22:36.11 | Megachirops | hello. how is everyone today? |
| 22:44.14 | learnerAtWork | heh, ok -- he's gone now -- we can resume talking |
| 22:44.19 | learnerAtWork | :) j/k |
| 22:44.49 | Patlabor221 | shhhhhh everyone be quiet till learner leaves |
| 22:44.51 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 22:45.03 | JBDiGriz | Some of us are busy getting some work done, so we can go home before 3 in the morning. :{) |
| 22:46.17 | learnerAtWork | I'm going to have to leave earlier today.. I don't hear any hint of pat changing king->bunny :) |
| 22:46.41 | Patlabor221 | I can |
| 22:46.51 | Patlabor221 | everyone thing that's a good name? |
| 22:47.11 | JBDiGriz | I like Bugs and Fudds |
| 22:47.12 | learnerAtWork | If I were everyone, I'd say yes.. |
| 22:47.46 | Patlabor221 | shhhhh lawsuit.... |
| 22:47.51 | learnerAtWork | "Rabbit Hunt" for the "official" name so WB doesn't come suing us |
| 22:47.52 | JBDiGriz | But I wouldn't want you to introduce more Bugs into bzflag! :{) |
| 22:48.04 | learnerAtWork | har har |
| 22:51.27 | *** part/#bzflag jzaun (~jzaun@198-79-108-235.hi.net) |
| 23:01.15 | learnerAtWork | ~dict jist |
| 23:01.30 | learnerAtWork | ~ispell jist |
| 23:01.32 | | possible spellings for jist: joist just hist gist jest dist fist jilt list mist wist joust jots juts kits |
| 23:01.40 | learnerAtWork | grr |
| 23:02.01 | learnerAtWork | ah.. gist. oops |
| 23:02.43 | JBDiGriz | One has to wonder what started that, and why this forum was the best place to look for it. :{) |
| 23:03.44 | JBDiGriz | There aint no jistice in this world. |
| 23:03.50 | JBDiGriz | Jist do it! |
| 23:04.06 | learnerAtWork | lol |
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| 23:07.02 | michaelh2 | boo |
| 23:08.14 | learnerAtWork | ok |
| 23:16.40 | doughecka | tanj! |
| 23:21.28 | Patlabor221 | -rabbit or -rc ok for a command switch |
| 23:21.30 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 23:21.44 | learnerAtWork | -rabbit :) |
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| 23:22.22 | doughecka | take off the t |
| 23:23.07 | Patlabor221 | rabbi ? |
| 23:23.20 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:23.31 | doughecka | I saw a VW like that once |
| 23:23.31 | Patlabor221 | that's just lame |
| 23:23.39 | learnerAtWork | that would be a different game |
| 23:24.00 | doughecka | learnerAtWork: hmm, like... a CTF game without a flag |
| 23:25.16 | JBDiGriz | Silly rabbi, kicks are for Dougs! |
| 23:25.58 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: that was good |
| 23:28.59 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I'm gonna change the newking message from nk to nr, is that ok? |
| 23:29.06 | Patlabor221 | it means everyone will have to update |
| 23:29.32 | learnerAtWork | sure |
| 23:29.46 | JBDiGriz | It won't bother us, but you might have to work harder at get a windows update out. |
| 23:29.59 | Patlabor221 | naw those are easy\ |
| 23:30.05 | Patlabor221 | installer is a simple right click :) |
| 23:30.58 | *** part/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.131.244) |
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| 23:50.09 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Kings to Rabbits: beter to do it now then later, changed new king message to new rabibit message nR Also fixed some warning levels |
| 23:50.31 | michaelh2 | ? |
| 23:50.47 | Patlabor221 | KOTH is now rabbit chase |
| 23:50.52 | Patlabor221 | since it's not real koth |
| 23:51.03 | michaelh2 | what we really need of course is a head hunter patch |
| 23:51.13 | Patlabor221 | that would be coo |
| 23:52.46 | JBDiGriz | Has anyone thought of implementing a real tag game, the person who's it has to shoot one of the other players. |
| 23:53.36 | Patlabor221 | CTC is would be like that |
| 23:53.43 | Patlabor221 | well no that's backwards from CTC |
| 23:53.46 | Patlabor221 | that would be coo |
| 23:54.09 | Patlabor221 | in CTC the "it" can't shoot, and everyone else goes after him, and can't shoot each other |
| 23:54.12 | michaelh2 | coo coo coo |
| 23:54.20 | Patlabor221 | you shoot "it" and you become "it" |
| 23:54.25 | Patlabor221 | you get the chicken |
| 23:54.32 | learnerAtWork | OOh OOOoo... here's an idea.. |
| 23:54.37 | Patlabor221 | I coudl make it a running chicken too :) |
| 23:54.40 | Patlabor221 | that would be funny |
| 23:54.58 | learnerAtWork | Anyone play "dodgeball" in grade school?? :) |
| 23:55.04 | Patlabor221 | basicly |
| 23:55.08 | JBDiGriz | tag would be an easier game for the beginner who is still learning bzflag, more running/dodging, less shooting. |
| 23:55.09 | learnerAtWork | last standing wins a point.. |
| 23:56.09 | JBDiGriz | In dodgeball, how would you determine who has picked up the ball i.e. eligible to shoot? |
| 23:56.27 | Patlabor221 | yeah that woudl be wierd |
| 23:56.37 | Patlabor221 | in tag or CTC, you get points the longer you are "it" |
| 23:56.48 | michaelh2 | This is all hard coded? :) |
| 23:57.21 | JBDiGriz | In tag, you wouldn't get points, you would just run around trying not to be "it" |
| 23:57.40 | michaelh2 | that would be pointless :) |
| 23:57.44 | Patlabor221 | well yeah but how do you rank the people |
| 23:57.54 | Patlabor221 | all the other tag mods for comp games give points as you are it |
| 23:58.02 | Patlabor221 | so you have have a ranking |
| 23:58.04 | learnerAtWork | it's like dodgeball with N balls. The winner is the last guy who doesn't get hit |
| 23:58.22 | JBDiGriz | CTC would give you the ranking. tag would allow you to develop the skills. |
| 23:58.23 | michaelh2 | sort of instant death |
| 23:58.38 | Patlabor221 | anny last man standing thing is hard |
| 23:58.45 | Patlabor221 | cus the other people have to wait for the last man |
| 23:58.48 | Patlabor221 | gets booring |
| 23:58.57 | learnerAtWork | hmmm |
| 23:59.06 | michaelh2 | esp. if someone paused :) |
| 23:59.35 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:59.35 | learnerAtWork | you could take care of pausing pretty easy (just don't let them or kick them) |
| 23:59.49 | JBDiGriz | pausing with the chicken should kill you. |