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| 00:56.08 | captain_proton | ~ship |
| 00:57.02 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: The mac build is pretty busted right now. |
| 00:57.31 | captain_proton | guess you'll have to fix it ;-) |
| 00:57.46 | JBDiGriz | There's one in front of me, being used for it right now! :) |
| 00:58.33 | JBDiGriz | Why did you need to move the mac files back up out of the directory? |
| 01:01.22 | JBDiGriz | Another silly question, on current checkouts, I'm not getting the patches that you committed this morning. Any idea what's happening? |
| 01:07.53 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: because automake 1.4 was being cranky |
| 01:07.57 | captain_proton | um, not sure |
| 01:08.02 | captain_proton | cvs up -Pdr v1_7 |
| 01:16.45 | JBDiGriz | That's pretty close to the command I was using, cvs log doesn't list any commits beyond 6/13 |
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| 01:26.36 | jzaun | Hello all :-) |
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| 01:29.16 | fiberchunks | jzaun> !!!!! WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN?!?! :) good to see you by the way :) |
| 01:29.59 | akcehguod | hey, jzaun! :) |
| 01:30.38 | jzaun | hi :-) |
| 01:30.40 | jzaun | been moving |
| 01:30.47 | fiberchunks | ah, you in hawaii now? |
| 01:30.49 | jzaun | I'm living in Wikiki right now |
| 01:30.55 | fiberchunks | lucky bastich ;) |
| 01:31.12 | jzaun | Got a new computer too |
| 01:31.21 | jzaun | unfortunatly no 3D support for it yet |
| 01:31.45 | Patlabor221 | what card? |
| 01:32.39 | akcehguod | hawaii? sheesh |
| 01:32.43 | akcehguod | how did ya do that? |
| 01:33.04 | jzaun | Its an ATI card |
| 01:33.16 | jzaun | Radon IGP |
| 01:33.31 | jzaun | and IGP 2D support is just in X cvs, 3D isn't in the works yet |
| 01:33.45 | jzaun | akcehguod: I got on a plane and flew here :-P |
| 01:34.04 | Patlabor221 | igp? never heard of that |
| 01:34.12 | akcehguod | :P |
| 01:34.31 | jzaun | Patlabor221: Intergrated Graphics Port (if I'm not mistaken) |
| 01:34.47 | Patlabor221 | in a laptop? |
| 01:34.47 | jzaun | Compaq Presario 2100 Laptop |
| 01:34.58 | Patlabor221 | probalby a mobility 7000 then |
| 01:35.02 | Patlabor221 | yeah no 3d for them yet |
| 01:35.16 | bzgirl | hi jzaun |
| 01:35.17 | jzaun | its not the 7000, its one up from that |
| 01:35.22 | jzaun | Hey bzgirl |
| 01:35.24 | Patlabor221 | 7500 |
| 01:35.36 | jzaun | let me try to dig up the real name |
| 01:35.38 | Patlabor221 | anything under a 8000 dosn't have real drivers yet |
| 01:36.04 | Patlabor221 | 7000igp |
| 01:36.07 | Patlabor221 | http://mirror.ati.com/technology/hardware/mobilityradeon7000IGP/index.html |
| 01:37.08 | jzaun | ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M |
| 01:37.40 | akcehguod | jzaun: first hawaii bzflag server? |
| 01:37.43 | jzaun | The card seams nice in 2D mode :-) |
| 01:37.53 | jzaun | akcehguod: sry, no server here :-( |
| 01:38.00 | akcehguod | bah :) |
| 01:38.27 | Patlabor221 | ohhh wait till you try it's noncompliant openGL implementation :) |
| 01:39.12 | jzaun | Patlabor221: can't try it till someone writes a 3D driver for it :-/ |
| 01:39.19 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.22 | Patlabor221 | yeah I know |
| 01:39.25 | jzaun | fiberchunks: 85-90 every day all year |
| 01:39.26 | akcehguod | sunny, with 0% chanch of clouds |
| 01:39.43 | fiberchunks | jzaun> again, I say, 'lucky bastich'! ;) |
| 01:39.47 | Patlabor221 | a number of people bought 7000s cus they were cheap only to find drivers upport lacking |
| 01:40.10 | fiberchunks | nooooooo, ATI driver support lacking? who says |
| 01:40.16 | jzaun | According the the #xfree86 people IGP is in the works, just not done yet |
| 01:40.41 | Patlabor221 | yeah, ATI just did support for 8000's and up and left the rest to the xfree people |
| 01:40.47 | jzaun | on the otherhand, I'm betting my s-video out will never get supported |
| 01:41.15 | Patlabor221 | ya never know |
| 01:41.27 | akcehguod | patches welcome jzaun :P |
| 01:41.34 | Patlabor221 | there are a set of linux comercaial drivers that do support hardware for the ATI line ircc |
| 01:41.37 | jzaun | speaking of patches... |
| 01:41.57 | jzaun | ... my SB texture patch seems to have made it into CVS |
| 01:42.03 | Patlabor221 | yes it did |
| 01:42.11 | Patlabor221 | tho I tweaked the gfx a bit |
| 01:42.38 | jzaun | Haven't seen it yet, BZ is dog slow without 3D support |
| 01:43.02 | jzaun | Patlabor221: ya know who makes the ATI drivers? |
| 01:43.18 | Patlabor221 | I don't recall the name |
| 01:43.20 | Patlabor221 | let me look |
| 01:44.11 | jzaun | So fiberchunks, what u been up to? still runnin the msg board? |
| 01:44.53 | fiberchunks | well, Patlabor221 is hosting / admin, along with myself and captain_proton. But yeah -- locked more threads in the past week than I have the entire time the things been up -- ppl have been fiesty lately |
| 01:45.17 | fiberchunks | jzaun> changed the look significantly over the past 2 days -- go check it out |
| 01:45.21 | jzaun | Whats the big issues now-days? |
| 01:45.36 | Patlabor221 | people being rude |
| 01:45.45 | fiberchunks | same carp - admins kicking unecessarily, ppl being rude, etc |
| 01:45.46 | jzaun | guess that wont ever change |
| 01:45.51 | fiberchunks | guess not |
| 01:46.00 | bzgirl | shut up jzaun |
| 01:46.00 | Patlabor221 | http://www.xig.com/ |
| 01:46.01 | jzaun | whats the url? |
| 01:46.05 | bzgirl | :) |
| 01:46.10 | fiberchunks | bzbb.bakadigital.com |
| 01:46.10 | Patlabor221 | and your chipset is on the main page |
| 01:46.16 | fiberchunks | bzgirl -- har! ;) |
| 01:46.22 | Patlabor221 | Notebooks w/ATI RADEON IGP Graphics Now Supported LX |
| 01:46.23 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.23 | Patlabor221 | This new ATI graphics chip line for notebooks is found in notebooks from Fujitsu, NEC, IBM, Legend, Packard Bell, HP, Compaq and MicornPC, etc. Some of the notebooks have been through our engineering labs for testing. Others "should work" with the generic IGP drivers available in the LX demos. |
| 01:46.23 | jzaun | thanks Patlabor221 |
| 01:46.24 | jzaun | brb |
| 01:47.02 | Patlabor221 | whooooo look at them rake ya over the coals on it too |
| 01:47.04 | fiberchunks | I don't think I've ever met a person who uses the XiG drivers -- they're commercial right? |
| 01:47.06 | Patlabor221 | $100 |
| 01:47.11 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: Did you add the MacOSX directory to configure.in? |
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| 01:50.39 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: ahh, no i didn't :) |
| 01:51.41 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: Then it shouldn't have tried to build in that directory for anyone else. |
| 01:52.21 | jzaun | Patlabor221: Thats 100 bucks!!! |
| 01:52.44 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:52.45 | jzaun | not sure if its worth 100 bucks |
| 01:52.49 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:52.55 | Patlabor221 | like I said, lame |
| 01:55.28 | learner | cap, I don't see the commits from this morning on the v1_7 tag in cvs |
| 01:55.42 | jzaun | maybe I should just pay a XF86 person 100 bucks to work on IGP 3D support |
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| 01:56.53 | ski | hi all |
| 01:57.01 | captain_proton | learner: how are you updating it? |
| 01:57.14 | ski | brb |
| 01:57.29 | learner | cvs update -dP |
| 01:57.36 | Patlabor221 | shulda got a 'top with a GF4 go :) |
| 01:57.55 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: add MacOSX directories to configure.in |
| 01:57.59 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 01:58.06 | captain_proton | should usually be cvs up -Pdr v1_7 |
| 01:58.10 | captain_proton | try a clean checkout? |
| 01:58.16 | learner | maybe sourceforge is being bitchy to the anonymous users |
| 01:58.37 | JBDiGriz | I'm not sure I want you to add the MacOSX directories to configure.in until we can actually clear up all the other problems! |
| 01:58.48 | learner | cap, trying a clean checkout now of both head and v1_7 |
| 01:58.51 | captain_proton | learner: very possible |
| 01:58.56 | captain_proton | learner: you don't want head |
| 01:59.04 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: it works fine on my end with them in there |
| 01:59.45 | learner | hrm.. something is wrong though -- if it's ok on your end for sure, then it would have to be sf.. |
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| 01:59.54 | BZSpiff | Hey ski. |
| 01:59.57 | BZSpiff | Coming? |
| 02:00.02 | BZSpiff | Oh..... and bzg.......... |
| 02:00.03 | JBDiGriz | Cool! |
| 02:00.09 | BZSpiff | I can't login on your server :S |
| 02:00.25 | BZSpiff | It just asked me to re-register (on the CTF server). |
| 02:01.35 | BZSpiff | Skiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii? :) |
| 02:01.43 | BZSpiff | Well..... we're on bzgirl. C-ya. |
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| 02:08.18 | learner | ok, I checked out a clean copy of v1_7 and there is no sight of any of the patch |
| 02:09.21 | learner | I know cvs better than most, but for the doubtful: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag checkout -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 02:12.25 | learner | cap, "should usually be cvs up -Pdr v1_7" is the same as -dP -- a checked out revision knows it's own revision (unless you start mixing revisions/branches on a per-directory basis -- which would be very bad) |
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| 02:15.17 | Patlabor221 | they may have multiple servers or something, one that anon goes to and one that ssh goes to, and maybe they havent' updated |
| 02:15.22 | Patlabor221 | or something like that |
| 02:16.23 | ski2 | ~seen apache |
| 02:16.24 | | apache <~apache@pcp01187301pcs.strl401.mi.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 14d 15m 41s ago, saying: 'hey ski'. |
| 02:16.43 | learner | yea, perhaps, pat -- still sucks |
| 02:18.08 | learner | ah... just got the lowdown from sourceforge |
| 02:18.20 | learner | http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1#cvs |
| 02:18.35 | learner | see the June 13th issue |
| 02:18.47 | learner | man that sucks |
| 02:19.20 | captain_proton | learner: i'm adding you to the developer list |
| 02:19.22 | Patlabor221 | damn and I was just guessing |
| 02:19.28 | learner | the data will get pushed to backup servers once a day |
| 02:19.37 | learner | cap, thx |
| 02:19.47 | captain_proton | just don't break it ;) |
| 02:19.58 | learner | nods |
| 02:20.09 | Patlabor221 | break it... break it.... :) |
| 02:21.12 | captain_proton | learner: ok, you -should- have developer cvs access now |
| 02:21.34 | learner | is there a team commit policy anywhere? i.e. commit comment style, etc |
| 02:21.34 | captain_proton | ibot message for TimRiker i added learner (brlcad on sf) as a developer |
| 02:21.45 | captain_proton | learner: not really :) |
| 02:21.51 | learner | ok |
| 02:21.58 | captain_proton | comments should try to be descriptive but no need to overdo |
| 02:22.01 | learner | I'll confer before commiting, anyways |
| 02:22.16 | captain_proton | the general rule is "don |
| 02:22.20 | captain_proton | t break anything beyond repair" |
| 02:22.58 | learner | heh -- that's a broader rule than I'd be comfortable with.. :) |
| 02:23.35 | Patlabor221 | I think gernealry you jsut keep the code lookin like it's lookin. and if you add a new option make it have some smart defaults. |
| 02:23.46 | learner | easy enough |
| 02:23.46 | Patlabor221 | usualy "off" |
| 02:23.53 | learner | lol, gotcha |
| 02:24.00 | Patlabor221 | ohh and break linux as often as posible |
| 02:24.28 | learner | how about a subtle virus inclusion for linux as part of the network io? |
| 02:24.37 | Patlabor221 | that would work for me |
| 02:24.45 | learner | ok |
| 02:24.49 | learner | lol |
| 02:24.55 | Patlabor221 | actualy just target it to gentoo and you'll be good :P |
| 02:25.05 | learner | HA |
| 02:25.19 | Patlabor221 | or people named "cell" |
| 02:25.47 | learner | :) |
| 02:26.45 | Patlabor221 | ooooo mac never uglified AnimMesh.cxx |
| 02:28.54 | jzaun | so how come 1.8 is still HEAD in CVS? |
| 02:29.33 | JBDiGriz | I would like to hear the answer to that one myself! :) |
| 02:30.35 | learner | same query here... shouldn't it be the latest STABLE code? |
| 02:31.16 | learner | hehe, or is 1.8 the last stable? .. hehehe |
| 02:31.40 | JBDiGriz | steady learner, you don't want to lose that access too quickly! :) |
| 02:31.47 | jzaun | 1.8 is old code not used anymore |
| 02:32.09 | captain_proton | because CVS is cranky and without shell access its really hard to rename HEAD and make a current branch into HEAD |
| 02:32.20 | captain_proton | so tim will check post-g2 back in over HEAD |
| 02:32.45 | jzaun | Cool, just wondering :-) |
| 02:33.09 | Patlabor221 | hey fiber what is our target page witdh? |
| 02:33.12 | Patlabor221 | 800? |
| 02:33.18 | jzaun | WOW, someone configureified bzflag! |
| 02:33.42 | Patlabor221 | you mean autoconf? |
| 02:33.44 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> yeah |
| 02:33.46 | captain_proton | thats not a "WOW" thats an "eh" |
| 02:33.48 | Patlabor221 | that's the big thing they just did |
| 02:33.52 | captain_proton | its better than what we had |
| 02:34.02 | captain_proton | was a lot of work for sure |
| 02:34.30 | jzaun | I like configure.. makes things much easier |
| 02:35.12 | captain_proton | quick, does this go in E&T: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=751948&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 02:35.41 | captain_proton | oh i see, even Chestal doesn't like it :) |
| 02:36.19 | Patlabor221 | incalid artifact ID |
| 02:37.00 | *** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 coming RSN || for a giggle, check for crs' name in the credits for Finding Nemo || hell hath no fury like the fist slighted || sourceforge anonymous CVS is fecked up - deal with it |
| 02:38.51 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: Thanks a lot! We get to create patches against a tree that's three days old! Whoopee! :) |
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| 02:42.55 | sn0w_m0nkey | admin for closeprojects here? |
| 02:43.14 | sn0w_m0nkey | stibnite? |
| 02:43.39 | sn0w_m0nkey | cheater needs ban on hashmark server |
| 02:44.35 | sn0w_m0nkey | hello |
| 02:46.15 | Patlabor221 | fiber, here is a sample of what I was thinkin |
| 02:46.16 | Patlabor221 | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/layout.jpg |
| 02:46.18 | Patlabor221 | very rough |
| 02:47.19 | Patlabor221 | or maybe ditch the missles, and just put the name in the middle |
| 02:47.40 | Patlabor221 | or I can put some nerf balls in there |
| 02:49.57 | fiberchunks | oooo, I like it -- the missles need fire though |
| 02:51.18 | Patlabor221 | yes they do |
| 02:51.21 | Patlabor221 | haven't done that yet |
| 02:51.29 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 02:51.31 | Patlabor221 | and they can all be put into tables to scale with the page size |
| 02:52.11 | fiberchunks | dunno bout the green tank though -- is there any green at all on the site? |
| 02:52.30 | fiberchunks | what about rougish -- not black, but a darkish grey |
| 02:52.40 | Patlabor221 | no, but green has a blue compoenent |
| 02:52.42 | Patlabor221 | I could try that |
| 02:52.54 | Patlabor221 | just new purple or red would clash |
| 02:53.02 | fiberchunks | yeah, that's true -- |
| 02:53.17 | fiberchunks | the blue looks real nice though |
| 02:54.06 | fiberchunks | oh yeah -- and make 'em Fish Missiles! ;) |
| 02:57.05 | Patlabor221 | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/layout2.jpg |
| 02:57.39 | fiberchunks | sweetness |
| 02:57.55 | learner | pat, needs more flames... and smoke.. ;) |
| 02:57.59 | fiberchunks | whaddya think |
| 02:58.49 | fiberchunks | I'm thinking, though that if you swapped the blue tank with the grey tank, it'd look just right -- there's something about it that's weird |
| 02:59.00 | fiberchunks | love the missiles |
| 02:59.07 | Patlabor221 | you just don't like being shot by roges :) |
| 02:59.19 | Patlabor221 | I don't want the missiles to be the main part of the image tho |
| 02:59.36 | fiberchunks | I am a rogue ;) |
| 03:00.07 | fiberchunks | concur about the missiles -- I do think the blue tank'd look better, or more 'right' as the bigger of the two tho |
| 03:02.16 | fiberchunks | nice aim icon Patlabor221 |
| 03:03.34 | Patlabor221 | it's not mine |
| 03:04.02 | Patlabor221 | well you took a way the all richious green tank, so it dosn't mater any more |
| 03:04.30 | fiberchunks | hey, if you like the green tank, make it a green tank, I don't care ;) |
| 03:04.51 | fiberchunks | just looked funky -- but then again, IANAGD ;) |
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| 03:06.01 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.32 | fiberchunks | nor do I |
| 03:06.46 | learner | sure.. big puffy black and red smoke.. |
| 03:07.32 | *** part/#bzflag ski2 (ski@pool-141-158-73-67.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:11.13 | Patlabor221 | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/layout3.jpg |
| 03:11.55 | fiberchunks | spiffy -- what enormous port on the tank do them missiles spit out of? |
| 03:12.33 | Patlabor221 | that would be the butt bob. |
| 03:12.39 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 03:12.53 | fiberchunks | whaddya think of it? |
| 03:13.36 | Patlabor221 | I prefer the green tank |
| 03:14.15 | fiberchunks | relink me |
| 03:14.38 | Patlabor221 | layout with no number |
| 03:15.11 | fiberchunks | mkay |
| 03:15.30 | bzgirl | i didnt know you could browse the bfoj |
| 03:15.39 | Patlabor221 | we turned it on |
| 03:15.45 | bzgirl | ah |
| 03:15.58 | Patlabor221 | what do you think of the new images? |
| 03:15.58 | fiberchunks | yah, I think you're right |
| 03:16.15 | bzgirl | way better i think |
| 03:16.16 | fiberchunks | green it is then |
| 03:16.25 | Patlabor221 | green is the one true color |
| 03:16.31 | fiberchunks | there is no spoon |
| 03:16.42 | Patlabor221 | yes there is, I washed it. |
| 03:17.00 | fiberchunks | heh, but can you bend it with your mind |
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| 03:17.09 | heinola | hi all |
| 03:17.18 | Patlabor221 | yes, yes I can |
| 03:17.30 | fiberchunks | ah, kfj mojo again -- forgot |
| 03:22.56 | bzgirl | bye |
| 03:23.52 | jzaun | Patlabor221: criped, just to test xig I will have to uninstall XF86 & have to recompile my kernel without AGP support so that their drivers can do it all... |
| 03:24.04 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 03:24.13 | Patlabor221 | how lame is that |
| 03:24.18 | fiberchunks | very |
| 03:24.20 | Patlabor221 | this is why nvidia rocks |
| 03:24.40 | jzaun | well, yell at compaq for choosing ati |
| 03:24.53 | Patlabor221 | or you for choosing compaq :) |
| 03:25.11 | jzaun | well... I got a 2000 dollar laptop for 1000 at compusa |
| 03:25.32 | Patlabor221 | no compaq is worth 2000 |
| 03:25.35 | Patlabor221 | how fast? |
| 03:25.43 | jzaun | 1.8 |
| 03:25.45 | learner | lol, pat |
| 03:25.50 | heinola | when is ati releasing there 4.3 drivers ? |
| 03:25.52 | Patlabor221 | that's a 1000 laptop |
| 03:26.14 | jzaun | 1 G of ram |
| 03:26.21 | Patlabor221 | 2 grand gets you 2.53's these days with GF4Ti cards |
| 03:26.23 | dakcehguo | 1 gig in a laptop? qoq |
| 03:26.24 | Patlabor221 | still ram is cheap |
| 03:26.24 | dakcehguo | wow |
| 03:26.39 | Patlabor221 | it's just ddr |
| 03:27.08 | jzaun | well, regarless I like the laptop other than the ati |
| 03:27.13 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 03:27.16 | Patlabor221 | but it's a compaq |
| 03:27.21 | jzaun | but atleast I don't have to use a generic vesa X server :-P |
| 03:27.27 | Patlabor221 | compaq |
| 03:27.51 | Patlabor221 | actualy laptops are a pain, there is no "standard" |
| 03:27.51 | jzaun | I hate compaq desktops - had lots of issues, but never had em with a compaq laptop |
| 03:28.07 | Patlabor221 | our dell laptops freakin rocok |
| 03:28.22 | fiberchunks | I like my dell, but, somtimes I don't |
| 03:28.39 | Patlabor221 | we've had issues with gateway |
| 03:28.50 | Patlabor221 | at least on dell everything is modular now adays |
| 03:28.52 | jzaun | just need money to start it |
| 03:28.59 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> that's true |
| 03:29.01 | Patlabor221 | you can get nvidia or ati in them |
| 03:29.19 | Patlabor221 | the problem with laptops is geting a fab to make your mobos |
| 03:29.25 | Patlabor221 | or your just reselling winbooks |
| 03:29.50 | Patlabor221 | it's not like MSI makes a "laptop" mobo |
| 03:29.58 | jzaun | why not? |
| 03:30.07 | fiberchunks | holy ghod, I've gotta edit 30 files for this mod |
| 03:30.10 | Patlabor221 | cus there is no standard case design |
| 03:30.26 | Patlabor221 | there is nothing like an "ATX" case for a latpop |
| 03:30.32 | Patlabor221 | you can't ever build your own |
| 03:30.44 | Patlabor221 | every mfg puts there own stuff in em |
| 03:30.51 | jzaun | kinda sucks |
| 03:30.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:31.03 | jzaun | I wanted to get a clear laptop case mod :-P |
| 03:31.07 | Patlabor221 | to be portable they give up, upgradeability |
| 03:31.21 | Patlabor221 | tho they are more upgradeable now |
| 03:31.31 | Patlabor221 | now the "lugables" are a difrent story |
| 03:31.48 | jzaun | lugables - who would want to own one of them |
| 03:32.11 | Patlabor221 | well when you have a situation where you need real cards, and want to travel. that's what you get |
| 03:32.39 | jzaun | true, but not may se em from what I can tell |
| 03:32.55 | Patlabor221 | no they are a limited market definatly |
| 03:33.14 | Patlabor221 | the home entertainment PCs are starting to get more popular these days now tho |
| 03:33.20 | fiberchunks | we use em for field work on naval vessels -- only thing we can use ATM. |
| 03:33.53 | Patlabor221 | it's funny, with prices droping soo fast, more "disposable" uses for comptuers are poping up |
| 03:34.42 | fiberchunks | hey pat -- you all sell a 2.5" drive cable to 3.5" drive cable adapter? |
| 03:34.45 | Patlabor221 | like with WindowsXP home media edition, it's viable to get a 300$ comp just to hook to the TV |
| 03:34.56 | fiberchunks | I've been looking for one forever, but never could seem to find one |
| 03:35.21 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure we can order one, but we will be as costly as everyone else |
| 03:35.51 | fiberchunks | would you mind looking into that for me? I'd like to hook one of my laptop drives up so's I can get the data offa it |
| 03:35.58 | fiberchunks | to my desktop, that is |
| 03:36.07 | Patlabor221 | regular or USB? |
| 03:36.13 | fiberchunks | what, drive? |
| 03:36.16 | fiberchunks | or cable |
| 03:36.20 | Patlabor221 | no cable |
| 03:36.26 | Patlabor221 | they have USB drive adapters |
| 03:36.41 | fiberchunks | actually, a laptop hd to usb cable adapter would be _real_ nice |
| 03:36.58 | dakcehguo | but will it work in linux? :) |
| 03:37.05 | Patlabor221 | well here is the cheap IDE way |
| 03:37.06 | Patlabor221 | http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HD-108 |
| 03:37.07 | Patlabor221 | 4$ |
| 03:37.10 | fiberchunks | I will make the damn thing work :) |
| 03:37.27 | Patlabor221 | yeah it just shows as a USB mass storage device |
| 03:37.30 | Patlabor221 | let me find it |
| 03:37.44 | dakcehguo | linux is cool like that :) |
| 03:37.58 | fiberchunks | nice -- thanks much |
| 03:38.39 | heinola | does asus make a good linux mobo ? |
| 03:38.59 | Patlabor221 | what is a "linux" mobo? |
| 03:39.01 | fiberchunks | some yes, some no -- google on 'linux hardware database' |
| 03:39.09 | fiberchunks | aka linux 'compatible' mobo |
| 03:39.13 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 03:39.17 | heinola | lol |
| 03:39.31 | Patlabor221 | asus usualy makes decent, but expensive stuff. |
| 03:39.38 | heinola | yep |
| 03:39.40 | Patlabor221 | we use ECS mostly |
| 03:39.44 | Patlabor221 | they work great |
| 03:39.56 | dakcehguo | who made the motherboard with a vacuum tube soundcard? |
| 03:40.00 | fiberchunks | heinola - if you're looking at the lower end of the spectrum i.e. AMD XP2100), I strongly recommend the soyo dragon+ mobo -- works perfectly for me |
| 03:40.18 | Patlabor221 | realy? we had nothing but problems with one of those |
| 03:40.22 | fiberchunks | ECS K7s5a is a killer, cheap mobo -- with great linux support |
| 03:40.32 | fiberchunks | my soyo runs like a champion |
| 03:40.38 | heinola | was looking at 333 fsb |
| 03:40.38 | Patlabor221 | that is the best cheap ass mobo in the world |
| 03:40.44 | Patlabor221 | ddr and srdam |
| 03:40.45 | fiberchunks | yes, it is |
| 03:40.46 | jzaun | so does bzflag use #commits? |
| 03:40.56 | Patlabor221 | I have one of the MSI kt400's and it works |
| 03:41.07 | heinola | im running biostar works ok |
| 03:41.08 | Patlabor221 | CIA is for the commits thing yes |
| 03:41.11 | fiberchunks | MSI makes good product too |
| 03:41.18 | fiberchunks | my gf4 is an MSI |
| 03:41.36 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> does that kt400 support 8x agp? |
| 03:41.40 | heinola | looking at MSI ASUS ECS |
| 03:41.43 | Patlabor221 | awwwwwwww yeah |
| 03:41.49 | fiberchunks | sweetness |
| 03:41.55 | heinola | looking twords ECS |
| 03:42.09 | Patlabor221 | thing supports up to 200mhz real fsb |
| 03:42.12 | Patlabor221 | 400 ddr |
| 03:42.28 | fiberchunks | ECS makes solid reliable boards -- see above. I would definitely use a k7s5a for a server application |
| 03:42.47 | Patlabor221 | we sold a buttload of ECS boards and didn't have any bad |
| 03:42.56 | dakcehguo | linux runs, but I dont use the onboard stuff |
| 03:42.58 | fiberchunks | yup -- they make em good |
| 03:43.11 | fiberchunks | what chipsets for onboard audio and lan dakcehguo? |
| 03:43.18 | Patlabor221 | doug, cus you didn't install it right |
| 03:43.26 | Patlabor221 | redhat runs fine with the via stuff |
| 03:43.32 | heinola | i had a prob with vt8322 in mdk 9.0 |
| 03:43.44 | heinola | but 9.1 fixed that |
| 03:43.50 | heinola | perfect now |
| 03:44.21 | dakcehguo | hmm, I used a soundblaster live, and a usb card, so I never used it, VIA is what it was I think |
| 03:44.25 | fiberchunks | my cmedia 8738-mc6 audio and via-rhine net controller are well-supported and work perfectly in linux (both alsa and oss) |
| 03:44.48 | heinola | 6 channel |
| 03:44.53 | fiberchunks | well if it's a via net controller, it works just dandy, and I have all sorts of air space for my box :) |
| 03:45.01 | fiberchunks | helps with the eight fans it has running :) |
| 03:45.06 | heinola | lol |
| 03:45.21 | dakcehguo | ugh, do you have ear protection? |
| 03:45.33 | heinola | 12o db |
| 03:45.35 | heinola | lol |
| 03:45.40 | heinola | 120 db i mean |
| 03:45.42 | fiberchunks | isn't really that loud, actually -- like living near an ELL line -- you get used to it |
| 03:45.46 | Patlabor221 | http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/usb_hard-drive.html |
| 03:46.17 | fiberchunks | nice, thanx Patlabor221 |
| 03:46.27 | Patlabor221 | http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cdrdvdrmedia/usbaden.html |
| 03:46.29 | Patlabor221 | there are some more |
| 03:46.38 | Patlabor221 | the first was a bit expensivce |
| 03:46.39 | dakcehguo | sure :) did ya see that guy who put a whole computer into a empty monitor case and put an LCD in the front? he had fans covering it |
| 03:46.40 | heinola | was looking at biostar as well a little |
| 03:47.02 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 03:47.05 | heinola | ok lighting coming time to boogey |
| 03:47.10 | heinola | lol |
| 03:47.34 | heinola | cya |
| 03:47.36 | fiberchunks | look at ecs and msi, there pretty much sure bets, and check out the lhd sometime -- reviews and all that jazz |
| 03:47.39 | fiberchunks | later on |
| 03:47.49 | heinola | ty |
| 03:47.51 | fiberchunks | np |
| 03:48.05 | heinola | ill be on tommorro to bug u lol |
| 03:48.21 | fiberchunks | I'll be here |
| 03:48.31 | fiberchunks | or fixing my @#$@#$ radiator in my truck |
| 03:48.50 | heinola | chevy |
| 03:48.54 | dakcehguo | ford |
| 03:49.01 | heinola | year |
| 03:49.02 | fiberchunks | dodge, 106k miles on it -- had to go sometime |
| 03:49.05 | fiberchunks | 95 |
| 03:49.06 | dakcehguo | drats |
| 03:49.28 | heinola | mazda with 336,000 one minor overhaul lol |
| 03:49.38 | fiberchunks | the cooling jacket brace burst a long time ago, frankly I'm surprised it didn't crap out sooner |
| 03:49.57 | heinola | jusat rings gaskets minor parts |
| 03:50.07 | heinola | time to go ill get ZAPPPPPPPPPDED lol |
| 03:50.33 | fiberchunks | whaz up with the new banner, pl? ready for uppage? |
| 03:51.00 | fiberchunks | how many total images is it, btw -- ic 3 so far -- are the missiles separate? |
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| 03:52.13 | learner | are the src/platform/Make-* files now stale given the new automakeified build process? |
| 03:52.44 | Patlabor221 | well then that sucked |
| 03:52.46 | dakcehguo | fiberchunks: camro? |
| 03:52.50 | fiberchunks | yes |
| 03:52.51 | Patlabor221 | one more coster for the pyre |
| 03:52.52 | dakcehguo | camaro*? |
| 03:52.54 | fiberchunks | camaro |
| 03:53.01 | fiberchunks | lovely |
| 03:53.03 | dakcehguo | why would you want on of them? |
| 03:53.03 | fiberchunks | crash? |
| 03:53.04 | Patlabor221 | fiber /bzbb/images/logo/ |
| 03:53.04 | dakcehguo | :) |
| 03:53.15 | fiberchunks | ah, that's where they are then |
| 03:53.16 | Patlabor221 | my cdrw has "isssues" |
| 03:53.26 | Patlabor221 | left, middle, and center |
| 03:53.27 | fiberchunks | heh, lite-on << good stuff cheap too |
| 03:53.31 | fiberchunks | mkay |
| 03:53.57 | Patlabor221 | left and right should be valigned by there names in a table |
| 03:54.08 | Patlabor221 | there td shold be there size + a tad more |
| 03:54.20 | Patlabor221 | middle can float in a align middle |
| 03:54.30 | Patlabor221 | so it will scale with the size of the page |
| 03:54.38 | fiberchunks | 'valigned by their names?' |
| 03:54.55 | Patlabor221 | sorry h align |
| 03:55.01 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 03:55.02 | Patlabor221 | left.jpg = left |
| 03:55.08 | Patlabor221 | right.jpg = right |
| 03:55.08 | fiberchunks | yup, gertcha |
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| 04:52.28 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: whats your SF username? |
| 04:55.42 | MrApathyCream | blandeblar? |
| 04:55.59 | captain_proton | hm |
| 05:17.01 | wollabot | bye everyone |
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| 05:29.45 | Noodleman | jzaun!!!!! |
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| 05:30.54 | Noodleman | how's it shakin? |
| 05:35.33 | learner | cap, I'll go get him |
| 05:37.53 | Patlabor221 | oooooo the logo looks purdy |
| 05:40.30 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: you're in |
| 05:41.07 | captain_proton | how soon do you two think you can have osx builds working correctly? |
| 05:41.44 | learner | it's working now, we have both the os x project and automake system working together |
| 05:42.36 | captain_proton | is that in cvs? |
| 05:42.46 | learner | I'm going to send in the project builder stuff right now |
| 05:43.05 | learner | the automake stuff in either via jb or me tomorrow |
| 05:43.38 | captain_proton | if its all working, why the delay? :) |
| 05:43.54 | learner | jb did the autoconf, I haven't tested it yet |
| 05:44.42 | learner | I made sure project builder is good -- that's what I'm sending in now |
| 05:44.56 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> you around? |
| 05:47.28 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> ping |
| 05:47.54 | Patlabor221 | pong |
| 05:48.00 | Patlabor221 | sleepy png |
| 05:49.08 | fiberchunks | lo, I've just about finished the attachment mod |
| 05:49.34 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: Thanks, I was over at bzgirl "testing" the new build |
| 05:49.36 | Patlabor221 | there goes the drive :) |
| 05:49.45 | fiberchunks | I tarred up both the db and the board stuff, but Imma make another tarball of both, just to be sure |
| 05:50.00 | fiberchunks | and then imma do the mod up |
| 05:50.11 | Patlabor221 | ahh backups = good |
| 05:50.15 | fiberchunks | heh, and see if it works |
| 05:51.12 | captain_proton | damn this is a good song |
| 05:51.27 | Patlabor221 | cap what do you think of the new logo? |
| 05:51.51 | captain_proton | logo-ey |
| 05:52.03 | Patlabor221 | then all is right in the world |
| 05:52.36 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:54.34 | Patlabor221 | well I must get back to my book, there about to tell me god is an extrateretrial made of jello |
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| 05:57.11 | Patlabor221 | I just love the fact that it scales with the page |
| 05:57.16 | Patlabor221 | makes it look so more ballanced |
| 05:59.28 | fiberchunks | lol |
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| 06:03.07 | captain_proton | ibot: message for TimRiker JBDiGriz too |
| 06:23.22 | fiberchunks | muhar! file attachments are a go |
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| 07:00.35 | fiberchunks | you try it out captain_proton? |
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| 13:12.46 | mmu_man | I knew there was a conspiracy =) |
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| 13:19.26 | | i haven't seen 'david_d', [dmp] |
| 13:19.30 | [dmp] | ~seen david_v |
| 13:19.30 | | david_v <~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 20h 22m 46s ago, saying: '[dmp]: k'. |
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| 13:22.42 | | i haven't seen 'bunnies', sussudio |
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| 14:27.43 | mmu_man | plop |
| 14:28.12 | mmu_man | want my patch in :p |
| 14:38.27 | TimRiker | whois brlcad? |
| 14:40.47 | learner | I am, tim |
| 15:06.09 | TimRiker | ah. k. |
| 15:06.11 | TimRiker | back later. |
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| 16:04.02 | Smilodon__ | Hello |
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| 16:09.24 | Patlabor221 | *sigh* |
| 16:09.32 | Smilodon__ | Hello |
| 16:09.39 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:09.43 | Patlabor221 | how are you? |
| 16:09.48 | Smilodon__ | Well |
| 16:09.53 | Smilodon__ | Fine |
| 16:10.00 | Patlabor221 | that is good |
| 16:10.04 | Smilodon__ | I have a question |
| 16:10.13 | Patlabor221 | ahh, what would that be? |
| 16:10.24 | Smilodon__ | I find a switch in bzflag |
| 16:10.36 | Patlabor221 | what switch? |
| 16:10.36 | Smilodon__ | -view stacked |
| 16:10.46 | Patlabor221 | you mean run in a window? |
| 16:11.04 | Smilodon__ | That means you get two views in stereo |
| 16:11.10 | Smilodon__ | but.. |
| 16:11.22 | Patlabor221 | 1.7 does not have a serio mode |
| 16:11.32 | Smilodon__ | ?¿ |
| 16:11.55 | Patlabor221 | what are you trying to turn on? |
| 16:12.14 | Smilodon__ | Stereo split screen |
| 16:12.34 | Smilodon__ | But left and right, not up and down |
| 16:12.40 | Patlabor221 | we do no have a stereo split screen mode that I know of. |
| 16:12.53 | Smilodon__ | Yes, we have! |
| 16:12.55 | Patlabor221 | not in the 1.7 versions. |
| 16:13.09 | Smilodon__ | Yes, yes -view stacked |
| 16:13.21 | Patlabor221 | then it was made as a special thing |
| 16:13.32 | Patlabor221 | this for a HMD? |
| 16:13.33 | Smilodon__ | But splitted up and down |
| 16:13.38 | Smilodon__ | HMD? |
| 16:13.45 | Patlabor221 | Head mounted display? |
| 16:14.13 | Smilodon__ | No, glasses-free |
| 16:14.27 | Smilodon__ | Sorry |
| 16:14.32 | Patlabor221 | that's a head mounted display :) |
| 16:14.39 | Smilodon__ | I don't know |
| 16:14.51 | Smilodon__ | :) |
| 16:15.28 | Smilodon__ | I'd like the same this option does but left to right. |
| 16:15.29 | Patlabor221 | try -view stereo |
| 16:15.39 | Patlabor221 | there are 4 modes |
| 16:15.47 | Smilodon__ | You don't need glasses. Simply you can cross your eyes |
| 16:15.57 | Smilodon__ | It doesn't work for me |
| 16:15.59 | Patlabor221 | normal, stereo, stacked, and three. or so it seems in the code |
| 16:16.10 | Smilodon__ | Yes, I know |
| 16:16.14 | Patlabor221 | are they like the MSI shutter glasses? |
| 16:16.37 | Patlabor221 | or do they have displays in them? |
| 16:16.53 | Smilodon__ | I don't understand you |
| 16:17.13 | Patlabor221 | are there litte TVs in the glasses? or do they just flicker and let you see thru them? |
| 16:17.33 | Patlabor221 | insectoid are you having fun? |
| 16:17.48 | Smilodon__ | I don't understand you very well, but I have a normal CRT |
| 16:18.11 | Patlabor221 | ok and you look through the glasses at the CRT right? |
| 16:18.29 | Smilodon__ | No, I have not glasses |
| 16:18.37 | Patlabor221 | ohh |
| 16:18.45 | Smilodon__ | You can get *two* images and then cross your eyes |
| 16:18.54 | Patlabor221 | then your just going for eyestrain :) |
| 16:19.01 | Patlabor221 | that has to hurt |
| 16:19.06 | Smilodon__ | You see *half* the screen but in stereo. |
| 16:19.14 | Patlabor221 | try -view stereo |
| 16:19.29 | Patlabor221 | I have a set of glasses that flicker that do that for me. |
| 16:19.36 | Smilodon__ | It doesn't work. I see only the left image |
| 16:19.45 | Smilodon__ | At the whole screen |
| 16:19.49 | Patlabor221 | then that's all we have, I looked at the code. |
| 16:22.02 | Smilodon__ | The option -view stacked gets two stereo pairs. It's OK |
| 16:22.30 | Smilodon__ | But they are up and down. |
| 16:22.46 | Patlabor221 | well like I say, there are 3 modes there for that code |
| 16:22.55 | Patlabor221 | stacked, stereo, and three |
| 16:23.03 | Patlabor221 | I don't know what they do, but they are there |
| 16:23.06 | Smilodon__ | I try to figure out how modify the code in order to get it left and right |
| 16:23.31 | Patlabor221 | it's just some GL calls |
| 16:24.33 | fiberchunks | lo |
| 16:24.46 | Smilodon__ | Oh, I Know where the code is, but I don't know what the variables mean exactly |
| 16:26.24 | Patlabor221 | sup fiba |
| 16:26.33 | Smilodon__ | Eh? |
| 16:26.46 | fiberchunks | whaddya think o the att mod |
| 16:27.09 | Patlabor221 | I like it |
| 16:28.18 | fiberchunks | hee! I was geeked -- worked right out of the box |
| 16:28.24 | *** mode/#bzflag [+inscte +q!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:28.34 | Patlabor221 | sonofa |
| 16:28.45 | fiberchunks | btw -- illegal attachements are impossible, as long as the extension voodoo is properly applied |
| 16:28.58 | bzgirl | i like the new look |
| 16:28.59 | *** mode/#bzflag [+inscte -q!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:29.06 | Patlabor221 | damn macros |
| 16:29.51 | *** mode/#bzflag [-i] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:29.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [-n] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:30.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+s] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:30.06 | bzgirl | but the tank's bg color dosent exactly match the forum bg |
| 16:30.07 | *** mode/#bzflag [+c] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:30.12 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221Work (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 16:30.18 | *** mode/#bzflag [-t] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:30.33 | Patlabor221 | whitch tank? |
| 16:30.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [-c] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:30.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [-s] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:31.07 | bzgirl | in the main page...the green shooting the blue |
| 16:31.16 | bzgirl | i can see square boxes |
| 16:31.22 | Patlabor221-2 | hmmmm |
| 16:31.33 | bzgirl | maybe its mozilla |
| 16:31.48 | bzgirl | but i can see the outline of the gif or whatever it is |
| 16:31.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 16:32.09 | Patlabor221 | hmmm, are you running in thousands of color? |
| 16:32.15 | Patlabor221 | or 8 bit? |
| 16:32.24 | bzgirl | no idea |
| 16:32.36 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b +g!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:32.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b -g!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:32.42 | bzgirl | i will check my X file |
| 16:32.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [-e -q!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:32.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [-e +q!*@*] by Patlabor221 |
| 16:32.55 | mmu_man | Patlabor221 rtfm mIRC manual :) |
| 16:33.08 | fiberchunks | no, she's right -- my hi res don't show it that much -- but it's definitely there |
| 16:33.34 | Patlabor221 | silly xchat had some sorta macro that did all that, I was just removing it all |
| 16:33.49 | Patlabor221 | I can fix the outline, "I have a plan" |
| 16:33.54 | fiberchunks | what's the tank bgcolor pat -- I'll change the cell style to it |
| 16:33.55 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't show for me |
| 16:34.18 | Patlabor221 | it's the color of the BG |
| 16:34.27 | Patlabor221 | it's a web pallet thing, you can't realy change to that color |
| 16:34.29 | Patlabor221 | don't worry |
| 16:34.36 | Patlabor221 | I'll fix the images here in one sec |
| 16:34.36 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.45 | Patlabor221 | yeah 16 bit |
| 16:34.47 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 16:35.30 | Patlabor221 | I was worried this may happen on some displays |
| 16:35.40 | fiberchunks | someone email me a map file |
| 16:35.45 | fiberchunks | no, me runs 24 bit |
| 16:36.10 | Patlabor221 | your gonna have to change them to gifs |
| 16:36.17 | Patlabor221 | in the code |
| 16:36.42 | fiberchunks | change what to gifs the map? |
| 16:36.44 | fiberchunks | s? |
| 16:36.47 | fiberchunks | or the images |
| 16:37.07 | fiberchunks | oh, transparency? |
| 16:37.14 | Patlabor221 | well or png |
| 16:37.40 | fiberchunks | yes, but the M$ weenies apparently don't use browsers that support png trans I thought |
| 16:38.03 | Patlabor221 | they don't support the alpha |
| 16:38.07 | prot-work | png support in IE is broken in general |
| 16:38.08 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 16:38.18 | Patlabor221 | they do support 1 bit trans, basicly what gif supported |
| 16:38.33 | prot-work | gif isn't 1 bit trans, its a color key :) |
| 16:38.52 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> you still here? |
| 16:38.53 | Patlabor221 | yes, but it works out like 1 bit trans for explination sake |
| 16:39.11 | bzgirl | http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/tanky.jpg |
| 16:39.14 | bzgirl | yes |
| 16:39.42 | fiberchunks | could you please email me the decks map, so's I can test the attach mod with that extension? fiberchunks@snet.net |
| 16:39.43 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's the ditther, as I thought |
| 16:40.37 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: ok |
| 16:40.40 | Patlabor221 | 3 new png versions in the logo folder. |
| 16:40.47 | fiberchunks | thank you |
| 16:40.54 | fiberchunks | mkay |
| 16:42.22 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I may want to redo them when I get home, they still have some jpeg crud in them |
| 16:43.18 | *** part/#bzflag Smilodon__ (~pepe@242.Red-81-42-199.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:43.53 | fiberchunks | done |
| 16:44.21 | *** part/#bzflag Insectoid (~Insectoid@216.145.186.133) |
| 16:44.55 | fiberchunks | what did you want me to put linkage to at the bottom near the quick reply? |
| 16:45.39 | Patlabor221 | I dono, I think I was smokin somethin |
| 16:45.44 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 16:46.04 | fiberchunks | don't even know where that post is |
| 16:49.52 | Patlabor221 | ohh I rmember now |
| 16:49.55 | Patlabor221 | the bbcode link |
| 16:50.03 | Patlabor221 | that brings up the bbcode refrence |
| 16:50.28 | Patlabor221 | I think it would be nice down there between the text box and the bottom frame |
| 16:50.28 | fiberchunks | point me to it |
| 16:50.30 | fiberchunks | please |
| 16:50.43 | Patlabor221 | on the normal reply page |
| 16:50.58 | fiberchunks | hrm... |
| 16:51.12 | Patlabor221 | it just brings up |
| 16:51.13 | Patlabor221 | http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/faq.php?mode=bbcode |
| 16:51.22 | Patlabor221 | in it's own window |
| 16:52.20 | fiberchunks | ah, ic what ur talking bout now -- lemme grep for it |
| 16:54.33 | fiberchunks | hrm, that's funky -- it's a dynamic item -- gotta find the reference |
| 16:55.23 | fiberchunks | it's easy enough to slap in there, as long as you don't care about the 'is on' part |
| 16:57.48 | Patlabor221 | ohh no, since you can't change it for a QR |
| 16:57.55 | Patlabor221 | basicly for a QR it's allways on. |
| 16:58.02 | fiberchunks | ah, right |
| 16:58.02 | Patlabor221 | I just thought the refrence woudl help |
| 16:58.19 | fiberchunks | I can add it sure -- just take me a while to find how it's generated is all |
| 16:58.25 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 16:58.29 | fiberchunks | or I could just hard code it |
| 16:58.34 | Patlabor221 | hard code it |
| 16:58.39 | fiberchunks | although that ain't elegant ;) |
| 16:58.53 | Patlabor221 | it's just people seem to as "how do I post an image" all the time |
| 16:59.00 | Patlabor221 | and it's right there in the refs |
| 16:59.19 | Patlabor221 | so more links to the FM would be nice |
| 16:59.57 | fiberchunks | hey, while I'm doing this, look at the viewforum_body page (the one that lists all the topics, not the posts themselves) at the bottom, and tell me if you like the arrangment |
| 17:00.07 | fiberchunks | if not, tell me how you'd like it |
| 17:05.07 | fiberchunks | there you go -- linkage |
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| 17:05.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 17:06.31 | fiberchunks | check the linkage -- you'll prob want me to left align it or some such |
| 17:07.57 | prot-work | "Susan gets a mailing from PHP (physician Health Partners) |
| 17:07.57 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.57 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.57 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.58 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.27 | Patlabor221 | asgard is presntny using 95% of our instream bandwith |
| 17:09.35 | prot-work | yay for the gnome song |
| 17:10.45 | Patlabor221 | it's presently pulling down 144kb/s |
| 17:10.49 | prot-work | http://bzflag.net:3000/the_gnome.mp3 |
| 17:11.42 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> look at the linkage |
| 17:11.46 | fiberchunks | goodness -- why? |
| 17:12.03 | Patlabor221 | cus windows hates me |
| 17:12.24 | Patlabor221 | can you left justify the text |
| 17:12.26 | fiberchunks | 144kb/s as a result of windoze hateage? |
| 17:12.29 | Patlabor221 | and center the button |
| 17:12.32 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:12.43 | Patlabor221 | windows will NOT download these isos |
| 17:12.47 | fiberchunks | have to make a table, but I suppose |
| 17:12.49 | fiberchunks | ;) |
| 17:13.32 | prot-work | tables should not be used for layout :P |
| 17:14.22 | Patlabor221 | I put a throtle on it, the next iso should only take up 100kbs |
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| 17:15.47 | fiberchunks | hrm, that suxorz |
| 17:17.25 | JBDiGriz | Ouch, someone poked me while I was in a meeting! |
| 17:18.51 | fiberchunks | well this sux, the button image don't appear if it's in a td |
| 17:18.59 | fiberchunks | hrm, perhaps <div> |
| 17:20.19 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: any eta on the build fixes? :P |
| 17:21.12 | JBDiGriz | I have a set of fixes, which moves the files down and creates a new library. |
| 17:22.18 | JBDiGriz | I'm trying to learn enough automake to include the objects in the libPlatform library, rather than adding a new library. |
| 17:23.57 | JBDiGriz | You're very welcome to have the fixes, but I didn't want to commit them to CVS without some review. |
| 17:24.14 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: can you send them? i'd like to get a release cut |
| 17:24.29 | JBDiGriz | Sure, would you like them as a patch or email? |
| 17:24.42 | prot-work | so long as the build works, i'm happy, especially since most osx builders will be using project builder |
| 17:24.49 | prot-work | patch is fine - dcc it to captain_proton |
| 17:26.08 | JBDiGriz | Never tried dcc before, right now it's waiting for you to accept. |
| 17:26.09 | mmu_man | plop |
| 17:26.43 | prot-work | hrm |
| 17:26.47 | prot-work | sounds like you have a firewall |
| 17:26.53 | prot-work | go ahead and email it to me then |
| 17:27.18 | JBDiGriz | That could be from this location, I'll put it in sourceforge patches |
| 17:27.26 | prot-work | that works too |
| 17:27.46 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> centered both of them -- too much of a hassle to get things working with a table |
| 17:28.09 | JBDiGriz | Actually, email works as well, what address? |
| 17:30.39 | mmu_man | interruptible_waiton(1.7g2); |
| 17:30.42 | Patlabor221 | that works fiber, now about the bottom of the topic list...... |
| 17:31.13 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: looks fine to me |
| 17:32.43 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: I don't like that MACOS define to just include one library in the bzflag directory. I can do better! |
| 17:33.23 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> heh, knew you'd say that -- I was tired and didn't fiddle with it more |
| 17:33.37 | fiberchunks | just got it 'generally' there |
| 17:33.39 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: can you do better after we cut it? :) |
| 17:34.27 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: Of course, which is why I created the quick and dirty version! :P |
| 17:37.20 | mmu_man | cut, cut, cut... |
| 17:37.25 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: ok, care to check that in? :) |
| 17:37.50 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: fair enough. |
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| 17:39.01 | sussudio | is CIA off crack yet? |
| 17:39.45 | Patlabor221 | so ibot can get flooded too? |
| 17:40.02 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> whaddya wanna do bout the topic view |
| 17:40.12 | Patlabor221 | make it not ugly |
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| 17:40.29 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 17:40.40 | fiberchunks | them buttons cause grief |
| 17:41.07 | fiberchunks | suppose I could put em in a row by themselves with wrap on |
| 17:44.05 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: ibot has (some) flood protection. |
| 17:45.13 | prot-work | what are we calling this thing? :) |
| 17:47.16 | prot-work | steely-eyed bananna? |
| 17:48.54 | TimRiker | well I guess "father's day" is out. |
| 17:49.33 | TimRiker | ~spell bananna |
| 17:49.35 | | possible spellings for bananna: banana bandanna bananas banning Nananne baning bonanza Brianna Janenna bandannas banyan banns banana's Nana |
| 17:49.46 | prot-work | its this damned ibook keyboard ;) |
| 17:50.35 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: make sure changelog is complete |
| 17:51.27 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: are you going to commit that? i seem to have misplaced the patch |
| 17:52.11 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: I applied it to the current sources, made one simple change, and I'm verifying the build. |
| 17:52.17 | prot-work | k |
| 17:52.39 | prot-work | quick everyone, decide on a name :) |
| 17:53.00 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: I've told people I only made "one simple change"(r) too many times, and then didn't bother to verify. |
| 17:53.13 | prot-work | =) |
| 17:54.35 | dakcehguo | how about KFJ Mojo release? |
| 17:55.02 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 17:55.04 | | shut up doug |
| 18:00.28 | sussudio | ~ignore bzdoug___ |
| 18:00.50 | sussudio | someone please disable access from the bot from outside the channel |
| 18:01.08 | prot-work | huh? |
| 18:01.20 | sussudio | doug is messaging it to message me |
| 18:01.58 | prot-work | sigh |
| 18:02.45 | sussudio | stop messaging me doug. |
| 18:03.30 | sussudio | stop messaging me doug, you dork. |
| 18:07.31 | prot-work | oooo |
| 18:07.36 | prot-work | plan9 is open source :) |
| 18:07.55 | fiberchunks | plan9 is an OS right? |
| 18:08.06 | prot-work | yeah |
| 18:08.22 | prot-work | AT&T OS that came after UNIX & the little inferno stint |
| 18:08.27 | JBDiGriz | The guys at Bell Labs like open source. Plan 9 is the next real version of Unix after V7 |
| 18:08.31 | prot-work | its pretty beautiful from a design standpoint |
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| 18:17.26 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> ping |
| 18:17.45 | mmu_man | [67667] user_open(0xffffffff, 0xec111f45 "/dev/net/api", 0x2, 0x0, 0x0) = 0x3 (115 us) |
| 18:17.50 | mmu_man | [67667] user_ioctl(0x3, 0xbe23020e, 0xfcffb02c, 0x0) = 0x0 (144 us) |
| 18:18.09 | mmu_man | this is socket() |
| 18:18.17 | mmu_man | [67667] user_ioctl(0x3, 0xbe230203, 0xfcffb020, 0x0) = 0x0 (239 us) |
| 18:18.20 | mmu_man | this is connect() |
| 18:18.28 | sussudio | this is your socket() on crack? |
| 18:18.35 | mmu_man | [67667] user_sigaction(0xe, 0xfcffb01c, 0xfcffb00c) = 0x0 (9 us) |
| 18:18.48 | mmu_man | sussudio so ? |
| 18:19.08 | mmu_man | there is no socket() ssycall in BeOS, it's just an open() on the net device |
| 18:19.16 | mmu_man | works very well indeed :p |
| 18:19.43 | mmu_man | mind you it used to be a call to a userland server in R5 :) |
| 18:19.51 | mmu_man | in BONE the netstack is in kernel land |
| 18:20.07 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: It's there. |
| 18:20.16 | mmu_man | [67667] user_ioctl(0x3, 0xbe230208, 0xfcffb028, 0x0) = 0x8 (35617 us) |
| 18:20.32 | mmu_man | hmm which is this... recv() |
| 18:20.59 | *** topic/#bzflag by prot-work -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || |
| 18:20.59 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.59 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.59 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.03 | prot-work | arg |
| 18:21.27 | mmu_man | #error RSN not #defined |
| 18:21.31 | mmu_man | :P |
| 18:21.48 | *** topic/#bzflag by prot-work -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || for a giggle, check for crs' name in the credits for Finding Nemo || cvs frozen for release :) |
| 18:21.57 | mmu_man | ahhhhhhhhhh |
| 18:22.00 | mmu_man | better :P |
| 18:22.03 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: bump version number |
| 18:23.27 | mmu_man | so... I crash (actually get killed) just after the 1st recv() |
| 18:24.25 | prot-work | ok, source should be tagged |
| 18:25.14 | prot-work | i've gotta go to a meeting, i'll post the source release when thats over |
| 18:25.45 | mmu_man | my problem is the OGL and networking code is so interlaced in bzflag there is no place I can put calls to releaseCurrent() to let networking do its stuff :-( |
| 18:25.54 | mmu_man | IMO that's bad design :p |
| 18:26.04 | mmu_man | (the rest being very well designed, OO roxor) |
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| 18:35.09 | mmu_man | ping |
| 18:36.47 | Noodleman | cvs is frozen, m00h00! |
| 18:36.59 | sussudio | Noodleman: when are you going to remove Noodlebot? |
| 18:37.15 | Noodleman | when hell freezes over :-) |
| 18:37.23 | sussudio | it serves no purpose. |
| 18:37.32 | Noodleman | ~insult sussudio |
| 18:37.32 | Noodlebot | sussudio, thou loathed issue of thy father's loins! |
| 18:37.43 | Noodleman | it sure does serve a purpose :-) |
| 18:38.24 | sussudio | no, it does not. |
| 18:38.45 | Noodleman | it's got lamer lists, and it gives me a raw irc log when i'm gone |
| 18:39.12 | sussudio | so, it serves no purpose for this channel, much like doug. |
| 18:39.53 | dakcehguo | at least I have resolved myself to stay mostly ontopic, unlike sussudio |
| 18:40.02 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:40.37 | sussudio | you know what getting banned means, doug. you're on your way to making it permanent. |
| 18:41.18 | Noodleman | another good reason for keeping noodlebot here is that it annoys sussudio, and anything that annoys sussudio is A Good Thing |
| 18:41.20 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 18:41.58 | *** join/#bzflag Noodlebot (~noodlebot@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 18:42.10 | Noodleman | ah, so he's the culprit |
| 18:42.50 | Noodleman | i'm /msging lilo |
| 18:42.53 | sussudio | Noodlebot is an annoyance. it was an annoyance in #debian. |
| 18:43.37 | Noodleman | sussudio is an annoyance everywhere |
| 18:43.47 | Hamster_afk | ohh bitch fight |
| 18:44.51 | sussudio | Secret_Hamster: notice the witty retort on Noodleman's side? |
| 18:45.18 | Secret_Hamster | lol |
| 18:45.37 | sussudio | Noodlebot was created to annoy. it crapflooded #debian and was banned. |
| 18:45.38 | Secret_Hamster | come on Noodleman you can do better |
| 18:46.50 | Noodleman | i'm just ignoring him |
| 18:47.13 | sussudio | i rest my case. |
| 18:47.22 | Noodleman | he's just a windbag fireball without the sense to lick an ice cream cone, anywho |
| 18:54.03 | mmu_man | ok, I'll try a LockWithTimeout(50000) somewhere... might help mouving the window without locking :) |
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| 18:55.33 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.53 | bzgirl | hi rubyguru |
| 18:56.33 | mmu_man | grrr this build system is bugging me ! |
| 18:56.46 | mmu_man | it rebuilds the full monty just because I switched gcc ! |
| 18:56.50 | mmu_man | stupid |
| 18:57.14 | ak|ra | hi bzgirl |
| 18:57.16 | mmu_man | wtf ??? cc1plus: Invalid option `-Wno-deprecated' |
| 18:57.28 | ak|ra | mmu_man: what compiler? |
| 18:57.38 | mmu_man | gcc |
| 18:57.58 | mmu_man | it compiled the very same source yesterday... seems it's in a bad mood |
| 18:58.04 | Chestal | waah, yahoo is borked in gaim |
| 18:58.22 | jolly | hey Ches |
| 18:58.26 | Chestal | jolly: hia |
| 18:58.29 | sussudio | Chestal: noodlebot serves no purpose, it should be removed from this channel. |
| 18:58.34 | *** join/#bzflag Noodlebot (~noodlebot@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 18:59.00 | Chestal | sussudio: at least it is annoying |
| 18:59.20 | Noodleman | i'll fix anything that is annoying |
| 18:59.37 | Noodleman | the main reason i keep it here is that it gives a raw irc log |
| 18:59.54 | Chestal | 'raw'? |
| 18:59.54 | mmu_man | grrr, what happened this night that gcc doesn't want to compile now ????? |
| 18:59.55 | sussudio | my bot was banned and it was -passive-. |
| 19:00.13 | Chestal | mmu: didn#t you say that you have switched gcc? |
| 19:00.38 | Noodleman | chestal: i mean it logs the irc session without any parsing |
| 19:00.51 | dakcehguo | like ibot |
| 19:00.53 | mmu_man | Chestal yes, I switched back to the one that builds it |
| 19:00.59 | mmu_man | teh other bails out because of setjmp |
| 19:01.00 | sussudio | you can download channel logs from ibot.rikers.org |
| 19:01.09 | sussudio | Noodlebot serves no purpose. |
| 19:01.12 | dakcehguo | ibot parses it |
| 19:01.13 | | dakcehguo: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 19:01.54 | sussudio | Chestal: doesn't circumventing a channel ban automatically mean a permban? |
| 19:02.07 | Noodleman | sussudio: you need a major exlax today |
| 19:02.34 | Chestal | suss: I am not aware of any such policy on this channel |
| 19:03.00 | sussudio | it's standard practice on irc. |
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| 19:06.25 | Noodleman | hey jzaun |
| 19:06.35 | jzaun | Hello Noodleman |
| 19:06.42 | Noodleman | what's up? |
| 19:06.53 | jzaun | Not much, just woke up |
| 19:07.17 | jzaun | Got homework to do today :-( |
| 19:07.23 | jzaun | Whats been up with you? |
| 19:07.56 | ak|ra | if the kernel comes up with "Uncompressing Image" and nothing more .. what could this be? |
| 19:08.24 | Noodleman | nothing much, except there is something up a certain person's butt today, who shall remain nameless |
| 19:08.31 | jzaun | It didn't uncompress correctly? |
| 19:09.02 | jzaun | Noodleman: Thats never a good thing |
| 19:09.10 | Noodleman | maybe it didn't even compress correctly |
| 19:09.11 | ak|ra | jzaun: but why not? |
| 19:09.46 | ak|ra | u think i should not use the bzImage but vmlinuz for example? |
| 19:10.32 | Noodleman | ak|ra: maybe you compiled an optimization that isn't supported for your cpu |
| 19:11.06 | ak|ra | i just took the normal amd and nothing else |
| 19:11.08 | jzaun | ak|ra: Not sure what would cause it |
| 19:11.08 | jzaun | ak|ra: I haven't had that problem in years and years |
| 19:11.21 | ak|ra | jzaun: me neither |
| 19:11.27 | ak|ra | its the 2.5.72 foo |
| 19:11.52 | jzaun | well it is a devel kernel :-/ |
| 19:12.27 | ak|ra | its a devkernel a lot of people use |
| 19:12.40 | ak|ra | and it should at least uncompress itself ... |
| 19:13.08 | jzaun | check #linuxhelp |
| 19:13.29 | prot-work | time to cut a source tarball =) |
| 19:15.34 | mmu_man | hmm maybe it's --enable-debug that added that stupid option... |
| 19:16.12 | mmu_man | right |
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| 19:20.05 | sussudio | scanline made the fly-cheat-patch, right? |
| 19:20.14 | prot-work | ============================================= |
| 19:20.14 | prot-work | bzflag-1.7g2.tar.gz is ready for distribution |
| 19:20.14 | prot-work | ============================================= |
| 19:20.20 | Noodleman | c'mon, be nice for once |
| 19:20.22 | prot-work | sussudio: it wasn't intended as a cheat, but yeah |
| 19:20.41 | sussudio | people are still using the executable. the one doug put up a while ago. |
| 19:21.05 | prot-work | sussudio: um, what do you want me to do about it? |
| 19:21.07 | mmu_man | yay |
| 19:21.08 | prot-work | quit complaining |
| 19:21.58 | prot-work | mmu_man: heh, we'll get there, just wait a day or two ;) |
| 19:22.59 | dakcehguo | isnt CVS supposed to respond as G2 when it recieves a CLIENTQUERY? |
| 19:23.46 | sussudio | no, it does not. now be quiet. |
| 19:23.46 | mmu_man | prot-work my patche has been waiting for 6 months or so anyway :D |
| 19:24.05 | prot-work | dakcehguo: if you got it from anonymous cvs, probably not |
| 19:24.09 | dakcehguo | k |
| 19:24.14 | mmu_man | well it has been sitting on my hdd I mean |
| 19:24.16 | prot-work | anoncvs is showing about a 3-day old repository |
| 19:24.34 | dakcehguo | ugh |
| 19:24.34 | mmu_man | prot-work SF was supposed to tackel this |
| 19:25.19 | Noodleman | g2g |
| 19:25.25 | dakcehguo | so much for this bleeding edge cvs :/ |
| 19:26.03 | mmu_man | rahh... autotools redoing a ./configure coz I "forgot" to run automake... this is really bugging :^) |
| 19:27.45 | prot-work | whoop |
| 19:27.48 | prot-work | g2 released |
| 19:28.09 | Chestal | uhm |
| 19:28.24 | Chestal | last time I checked it was still saying that it's g1 |
| 19:28.26 | sussudio | shouldnt tim be doing that? |
| 19:28.34 | *** topic/#bzflag by prot-work -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || for a giggle, check for crs' name in the credits for Finding Nemo || g2 released |
| 19:28.47 | mmu_man | [21:05] *** TimRiker (~timr@proxyle02.ext.ti.com) has quit IRC ("This space intentionally left blank.") |
| 19:28.55 | prot-work | Chestal: source tarball is up for me now |
| 19:28.56 | dakcehguo | guess not |
| 19:29.21 | prot-work | sussudio: i've got tim's blessing in this |
| 19:29.37 | Chestal | prot: hmm, uhm, ehm |
| 19:30.03 | mmu_man | he's not here to deny anyway :p |
| 19:30.35 | Chestal | prot: shouldn't BZVERSION be up to g2 when I check out 1_7 now? |
| 19:30.44 | mmu_man | rahhh HATE autotools !!! |
| 19:30.56 | mmu_man | this thing is running automake on every makefile |
| 19:31.13 | jzaun | I like em |
| 19:31.20 | mmu_man | I already ran configure twice for nothing tonight |
| 19:31.22 | jzaun | makes it easy and protable |
| 19:31.32 | mmu_man | jzaun they do work, but are a big bloat |
| 19:31.35 | dakcehguo | hmm, something is wrong with bzflag.dsw |
| 19:31.41 | mmu_man | portable... sometimes, easy certainly not |
| 19:31.58 | jzaun | mmu_man: just takes time to get used to the auto tools |
| 19:32.00 | sussudio | Chestal: appearently cvs isnt up to date |
| 19:32.07 | mmu_man | if you mean portable between linux versions then I don't call that portable |
| 19:32.11 | mmu_man | try in BeOS and see |
| 19:32.32 | prot-work | arghblehljdg;askdghj;lasdg |
| 19:32.46 | mmu_man | jzaun been porting apps to BeOS that use those for a year now, and I'm still not used to that crap =) |
| 19:32.48 | sussudio | is there going to be a g4 with bugs from g2 fixed? |
| 19:32.50 | prot-work | Chestal: hm, 10707002? |
| 19:32.55 | Chestal | prot-work: yup |
| 19:33.04 | mmu_man | btw, ffmpeh has a nice handcrafted configure script that does work at least |
| 19:33.07 | jzaun | mmu_man: can't help there, never used BeOS |
| 19:33.08 | mmu_man | nice, clean |
| 19:33.18 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: BLAH |
| 19:33.22 | mmu_man | jzaun I do'nt blame you :p |
| 19:33.31 | mmu_man | but feel free to try it :) |
| 19:33.35 | jzaun | but it does help compatability linux -> BSD -> Unix -> AIX -> Etc. -> win |
| 19:34.14 | jzaun | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.19 | mmu_man | jzaun even with BeOS |
| 19:34.32 | sussudio | jzaun: ever found out who rooted you? |
| 19:34.32 | mmu_man | the problem being part of them aren't uptodate |
| 19:34.43 | mmu_man | or even using autotools people make bad assumptions |
| 19:34.52 | mmu_man | like you need -lm always |
| 19:35.08 | mmu_man | at least that I can fix with a AC_CHECK_LIB(m, sqrtf) |
| 19:35.25 | Chestal | prot: simply grepping for 'g1' won't do :-) |
| 19:35.29 | mmu_man | prot-work hehe |
| 19:35.30 | bzgirl | In widows, if you have G0 and want to install http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/bzflag17g1.exe , do you need to remove G0 first? |
| 19:35.39 | dakcehguo | prot-work: w/ fixed bzflag.dsw? |
| 19:35.44 | sussudio | bzgirl: no, it makes its own install dir |
| 19:35.49 | jzaun | mmu_man: well even without auto tools, people can make those mistakes |
| 19:36.03 | bzgirl | sussudio: ok |
| 19:36.16 | sussudio | like 12/13/2002 16:53 <DIR> BZFlag1.7g0 |
| 19:36.16 | jzaun | mmu_man: but with auto, once its done right, it should be portable |
| 19:36.19 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: can't forget the windows kids |
| 19:36.19 | mmu_man | jzaun yes, but because they use autotools, people think their app is portable and they can do ugly things :) |
| 19:36.41 | ak|ra | cu all |
| 19:36.42 | jzaun | mmu_man: thats just bad coding then, not the auto tools fault :-P |
| 19:36.43 | *** part/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@pD95330B9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:36.58 | mmu_man | maybe |
| 19:37.04 | dakcehguo | :) |
| 19:37.24 | mmu_man | but m4 should be ditched |
| 19:37.29 | prot-work | autotools is a pain in the ass |
| 19:37.35 | mmu_man | prot-work [+] |
| 19:38.04 | dakcehguo | new gzip uploaded? |
| 19:38.07 | mmu_man | btw even porting bzflag to BeOS was easier with the previous build system :p |
| 19:38.19 | prot-work | dakcehguo: no, shut up now |
| 19:38.45 | prot-work | i'll tell you when :P |
| 19:38.53 | dakcehguo | ok doke |
| 19:38.55 | learner | lol, cap |
| 19:39.18 | Chestal | prot: src/platform/MacBZFlag-prefix.h:#define VERSION 10707001 ? |
| 19:39.35 | sussudio | Chestal: the version is in config.h |
| 19:40.04 | Chestal | sussudio: ehm, yes, I know |
| 19:41.43 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: its like an army of version numbers out to get me |
| 19:42.00 | prot-work | they should all be fixed now :P |
| 19:42.14 | mmu_man | btw, INSTALL isn't consistent with README which tell to mkdir ../work |
| 19:42.17 | dakcehguo | heh |
| 19:42.18 | prot-work | why can't we have one header file with the version number in it? |
| 19:42.24 | mmu_man | at least on my tree |
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| 19:42.40 | prot-work | mmu_man: INSTALL are just the generic installation instructions included by automake |
| 19:43.00 | mmu_man | k |
| 19:43.42 | Chestal | uhm, waht is this work dir for anyway? I never did it that way |
| 19:44.15 | mmu_man | Chestal VPATH |
| 19:44.26 | mmu_man | helps keep build and sources separated |
| 19:44.29 | mmu_man | well, tries to |
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| 19:44.33 | prot-work | gah |
| 19:44.37 | prot-work | i'm so out of practice at posting releases :P |
| 19:44.43 | Chestal | VPATH is evil (but useful :-) |
| 19:44.52 | mmu_man | but also makes it hell more complicated |
| 19:45.12 | Chestal | bah, no new gaim in debian yet |
| 19:46.41 | dakcehguo | chestal, it shows you as online... |
| 19:46.52 | prot-work | tarball posted |
| 19:47.02 | Chestal | dakcehguo: yes, AIM and ICQ are working, but yahoo isn't anymore |
| 19:47.13 | Chestal | those yahoo freaks liek to mess with their protocol I think |
| 19:47.22 | dakcehguo | ah |
| 19:48.03 | Chestal | so, I encoutnered this problem half an hour ago, and it's still not fixed in Debian. Bad servcei for something that's free ;-) |
| 19:48.35 | dakcehguo | heh |
| 19:49.01 | mmu_man | Chestal for windoze s/an hour/12 months/ |
| 19:50.00 | mmu_man | tag tag tag :) |
| 19:50.46 | Chestal | I wish galeon had a quick way to switch flash on/off |
| 19:51.06 | prot-work | time to build an rpm or three |
| 19:51.24 | Chestal | deb is most important :-) |
| 19:51.32 | prot-work | Chestal: i'll let you do that one |
| 19:51.39 | Chestal | prot-work: I have no clue about it |
| 19:51.57 | prot-work | Chestal: so its a learning opportunity! :) |
| 19:52.23 | Chestal | prot: do we only do a .deb for unstable branch? |
| 19:52.39 | prot-work | Chestal: i think so |
| 19:52.46 | bzgirl | sussudio: where is the config file stored on windows, what is it called? in my docs? |
| 19:53.08 | sussudio | my documents, user, bzflag.bzc if i remember correctly |
| 19:53.40 | sussudio | C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents\bzflag.bzc |
| 19:53.42 | bzgirl | sussudio: to remove user@host, email line should be? |
| 19:53.57 | prot-work | bzgirl: email with no value specified |
| 19:54.14 | sussudio | bzgirl: er? |
| 19:54.26 | sussudio | i think it's empty by default |
| 19:55.06 | dakcehguo | one of the new features of g2 is auto filling in the email field with <user>@<hostname> |
| 19:55.29 | bzgirl | this is on g1 also doug |
| 19:55.31 | prot-work | its not really a new feature |
| 19:55.34 | prot-work | just unbusted |
| 19:55.59 | sussudio | i think 1.8 filled that in by default |
| 19:56.05 | Chestal | IIRC the automatic email vanished with e2, always though tit was on purpose |
| 19:56.36 | Chestal | this silly flash animations are stalling my browser |
| 19:56.45 | sussudio | Chestal: so get rid of flash |
| 19:57.19 | Chestal | sussudio: it's needed sometimes |
| 19:57.37 | Chestal | just wish I could have if off by default and enable it easily if the need arises |
| 19:57.37 | prot-work | yeah! |
| 19:57.44 | prot-work | Chestal might want to visit RCAM's web site |
| 19:57.45 | sussudio | Chestal: you can use different configfiles for moz |
| 19:58.14 | sussudio | there's probably an option to disable plugins per site somewhere |
| 19:58.19 | Chestal | why can I enable and disaable java easily, but not flah? this makes no sense |
| 19:58.31 | Chestal | I want to be able to eanebl/disable every single plugin |
| 19:58.38 | Chestal | I've wanted that for 10 years or so |
| 19:58.38 | sussudio | Chestal: use the profile manager |
| 19:58.51 | sussudio | you're using mozilla, right? |
| 19:58.57 | Chestal | sussudio: I am not using mozillas. And if I would, I would still want to have an easier way |
| 19:59.18 | Chestal | why isn't there a config window where I can easily switch on/off all plugins? |
| 19:59.31 | sussudio | what browser. |
| 19:59.39 | Chestal | with the additional option to be able to define a toggle button for those which I want to swiitch often |
| 19:59.46 | Chestal | Galeon, so it's gecko |
| 20:00.01 | sussudio | well it's mozilla based |
| 20:00.43 | Chestal | probably another 'developers do not use their own software# effect |
| 20:00.56 | sussudio | "Why is there no button to disable plugins, like there is for java and javascript?" |
| 20:00.58 | Chestal | I always wondered why that pccurs so often |
| 20:01.03 | sussudio | "This needs to be supported by mozilla." |
| 20:01.24 | mmu_man | in BeOS it's as simple as ln -s |
| 20:01.30 | sussudio | http://galeon.sourceforge.net/support/faq.php |
| 20:01.32 | mmu_man | ... |
| 20:01.43 | dakcehguo | ick |
| 20:01.47 | dakcehguo | 10 errors |
| 20:02.31 | Chestal | the whole plugin and mime type management is a mess |
| 20:02.34 | dakcehguo | BundleMgr.cxx ..\include\common.h(24) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'config.h': No such file or directory |
| 20:02.37 | Chestal | haven't seen that done right in any browser |
| 20:02.38 | sussudio | doug didnt switch active configuration to Release.... |
| 20:02.51 | dakcehguo | FYI I did |
| 20:03.14 | sussudio | doug doesn't listen, otherwise doug would know about config.h |
| 20:04.18 | learner | are we going to move to a new cvs tag? |
| 20:04.37 | prot-work | learner: hopefully we'll be moving back to HEAD |
| 20:04.48 | learner | oh that would be nice |
| 20:04.50 | sussudio | ~config.h |
| 20:04.50 | | echo #define BZVERSION 10707001 > includeconfig.h |
| 20:05.07 | sussudio | ah damn you ibot for removing my slash./ |
| 20:05.09 | prot-work | there -is- a config.h for windows :P |
| 20:05.13 | sussudio | ~forget config.h |
| 20:05.13 | | i forgot config.h, sussudio |
| 20:05.24 | prot-work | and the dsps in cvs have it in their include path |
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| 20:05.33 | dakcehguo | ah, ,ok |
| 20:05.35 | prot-work | mmu_man: 1.8 is ead |
| 20:05.39 | sussudio | prot-work: it didnt 4 days ago |
| 20:06.16 | mmu_man | actually I first ported this, because noone is supposed to know that HEAD is deprecated when you cvs co a project with a minimum life |
| 20:06.24 | mmu_man | prot-work I know |
| 20:06.35 | learner | is anyone acually using .. "d" with ibot? |
| 20:06.35 | mmu_man | learnt it *after* porting it :p |
| 20:06.37 | learner | ~d |
| 20:06.38 | | PicoBot: e |
| 20:06.40 | prot-work | =/ |
| 20:06.49 | learner | I'd like to make it ducati6 |
| 20:06.57 | mmu_man | hopefully I didn't have much to change for 1.7 |
| 20:07.03 | dakcehguo | ~d is <reply> see ducati6 |
| 20:07.04 | | ...but d is already something else... |
| 20:07.11 | sussudio | ~literal ducati6 |
| 20:07.11 | | ducati6 is <reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 20:07.26 | learner | ~literal d |
| 20:07.27 | | d is <reply> PicoBot: e |
| 20:07.29 | *** join/#bzflag rooter ([x41blONEf@webguy.cc.westga.edu) |
| 20:07.38 | sussudio | ibot d =~ s/PicoBot: e/<reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156/ |
| 20:07.38 | | OK, sussudio |
| 20:07.41 | sussudio | ~d |
| 20:07.42 | | <reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 20:07.47 | sussudio | gah. |
| 20:07.58 | bzgirl | hi root |
| 20:08.03 | rooter | Chestal or [dmp]: TDS matched TDB with a score of 16-0 TDS |
| 20:08.06 | sussudio | ~d =~ s/<reply>// |
| 20:08.06 | | sussudio: OK |
| 20:08.07 | rooter | hello bzgirl |
| 20:08.08 | sussudio | ~d |
| 20:08.14 | sussudio | woot. |
| 20:09.53 | learner | cool |
| 20:09.53 | sussudio | lo rootpig |
| 20:09.53 | rooter | hello sussudio... how many names do you have :) |
| 20:09.53 | sussudio | i lost count |
| 20:09.54 | sussudio | last one i used was Chief Running Bowels |
| 20:10.17 | rooter | AAhh... i remember that... you kept shooting me |
| 20:10.29 | sussudio | yes, i think that's the objective |
| 20:10.41 | rooter | yeah... i guess so. |
| 20:10.52 | rooter | it didn't hurt my feelings |
| 20:10.53 | rooter | much |
| 20:10.55 | rooter | ;) |
| 20:10.57 | sussudio | personally, i liked dr hifi stereo weasel, esquire |
| 20:11.06 | rooter | well back to ducati |
| 20:14.49 | dakcehguo | so how do I fix config.h? |
| 20:15.13 | prot-work | dakcehguo: add win32 to yer damn include path |
| 20:15.19 | prot-work | or just use up-to-date dsps :P |
| 20:15.33 | sussudio | doug: think about it |
| 20:15.44 | bzgirl | ~seen bzg |
| 20:15.44 | | bzg <bzg@ip68-1-241-135.dl.dl.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #intimate, 118d 17h 9m 20s ago, saying: 'hello?'. |
| 20:16.01 | bzgirl | huh! |
| 20:16.13 | sussudio | cox? |
| 20:16.23 | bzgirl | its not me |
| 20:16.25 | learner | lol, girl :) |
| 20:16.42 | learner | sure it's not.. |
| 20:16.50 | sussudio | doug: in your bzflag dir, type echo #define BZVERSION 10707001 > include\config.h |
| 20:16.55 | sussudio | now stfu ktnx. |
| 20:17.12 | prot-work | sussudio: or he could include the config.h specifically put together for windows :P |
| 20:17.26 | sussudio | snort. |
| 20:17.28 | dakcehguo | :) |
| 20:18.02 | prot-work | er |
| 20:18.04 | prot-work | i guess i can't |
| 20:18.07 | prot-work | oh well |
| 20:28.00 | dakcehguo | still says G1 :) |
| 20:28.29 | prot-work | dakcehguo: all the version numbers are set correctly, so i'm going to assume its your error |
| 20:28.32 | bzgirl | ~bzg |
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| 20:30.14 | dakcehguo | huh, then I dunno, I grabed the gzip file and did that thing of sussudios |
| 20:30.30 | prot-work | dakcehguo: and sussudio screwed you up |
| 20:30.33 | prot-work | :P |
| 20:30.38 | dakcehguo | figures |
| 20:30.39 | dakcehguo | :) |
| 20:31.39 | dakcehguo | ~bzflist |
| 20:31.50 | dakcehguo | 65600 players :) |
| 20:33.22 | dakcehguo | at least it compiled :) |
| 20:39.50 | sussudio | wow. the percentage of people who live below the poverty line in the US (13%) is worse than china (10%), as opposed to none in canada |
| 20:41.11 | bzgirl | sussudio: not true |
| 20:41.20 | bzgirl | many canadians live in poverty |
| 20:41.34 | sussudio | bzgirl: yes, but below? |
| 20:41.48 | JBDiGriz | It depends on what they're defining as the poverty line in each place. |
| 20:42.01 | sussudio | JBDiGriz: i got it from the cia online factbook |
| 20:42.01 | bzgirl | JBDiGriz: right |
| 20:42.43 | JBDiGriz | sussudio: Sure, but earning $10 per day is probably a much better living in China than in the US |
| 20:43.10 | sussudio | JBDiGriz: it's probably adjusted to cost of living |
| 20:43.28 | bzgirl | sussudio: if its on the internet, its true :) |
| 20:43.43 | JBDiGriz | And that's where statistics comes in and therefore the definition of the poverty line. |
| 20:44.09 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 20:44.28 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery membersonly.mine.nu:5155 |
| 20:44.43 | TimRiker | nice... |
| 20:45.47 | dakcehguo | heh |
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| 20:47.20 | mmu_man | plop |
| 20:48.33 | prot-work | Patlabor221: you know you want to make a win32 build |
| 20:48.50 | sussudio | :-B |
| 20:49.01 | Patlabor221 | is it time? |
| 20:49.16 | Chestal | waah, the flash-plugin is evil, evil! |
| 20:49.17 | prot-work | it is time |
| 20:49.21 | JBDiGriz | Does anybody really know what time it is? |
| 20:49.21 | sussudio | can you make one from msvc somewhere? |
| 20:49.23 | dakcehguo | yes, sussudios version g3 |
| 20:49.43 | mmu_man | Chestal flash IS evil btw |
| 20:49.53 | Patlabor221 | called g1 or g2? |
| 20:50.26 | Chestal | ad banners are evil, and flash is evil, but combined it's destilled evil |
| 20:50.34 | Chestal | can't I sue someone? |
| 20:50.49 | JBDiGriz | Sure, sue SCO, they need it. |
| 20:50.51 | sussudio | you could sue yourself for not removing the plugin |
| 20:51.05 | Chestal | may all SPAMer and creators of banner ads be tortured in hell for all eternity |
| 20:51.20 | dakcehguo | chestal: that should work |
| 20:51.28 | JBDiGriz | I have to say something nice about Microsoft today. |
| 20:51.28 | sussudio | if, for some reason, you need to view flash, you can do it with an offline program too. |
| 20:51.55 | sussudio | JBDiGriz: it'll pass |
| 20:52.12 | dakcehguo | patlabor221: just besure config.h is correct :) |
| 20:52.19 | JBDiGriz | They sued 15 spammers in Europe and the US. |
| 20:53.12 | mmu_man | hmmm |
| 20:53.12 | mmu_man | [100000] send_signal(0x186a0, 0xb) = 0x0 (20 us) |
| 20:53.20 | mmu_man | indeed it's commiting suicide |
| 20:53.36 | Patlabor221 | doug, I do know how to make a build |
| 20:53.43 | Patlabor221 | cap, is it G2? |
| 20:55.07 | Patlabor221 | HTML man pages are up to date too? |
| 20:57.04 | prot-work | i haven't looked at HTML man pages |
| 20:57.19 | Patlabor221 | cus I can't run the converter |
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| 20:58.22 | mmu_man | sussudio EPERM |
| 20:58.32 | mmu_man | besides, I o have a win98 install |
| 20:58.38 | mmu_man | for interoperability reasons |
| 20:58.40 | sussudio | now you have 2 |
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| 20:59.12 | mmu_man | I had 3 already: |
| 20:59.22 | mmu_man | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.23 | mmu_man | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.23 | mmu_man | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.24 | mmu_man | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.48 | mmu_man | ... the win32 trinity =) |
| 21:01.43 | sussudio | *shrug*. i just put them on different PC's. i have one with win95, win98, win2000 and 2 with debian linux |
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| 21:03.38 | learnerAtWork | better |
| 21:04.10 | JBDiGriz | Your nick should be GuruAtWork |
| 21:04.48 | mmu_man | JBDiGriz no... guru never work |
| 21:04.53 | mmu_man | they get others do the work =) |
| 21:05.30 | Patlabor221 | me does need to update the installer for nsis 2 |
| 21:05.31 | learnerAtWork | lol, jb mmu_man |
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| 21:07.01 | BaDiN | hallo |
| 21:07.04 | JBDiGriz | I'll stick with wizard, gurus live on mountaintops and meditate, wizards live in caves and create potions and other surprises. |
| 21:07.07 | prot-work | muhar! irix is more current than windows =) |
| 21:07.09 | sussudio | lo pigs badin |
| 21:09.30 | BaDiN | gtg, cya |
| 21:10.51 | Patlabor221 | ok cap |
| 21:11.14 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G2/bzflag17g2.exe |
| 21:11.18 | Patlabor221 | thats' the installer |
| 21:11.20 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G2/bzflag17g2.zip |
| 21:11.22 | Patlabor221 | that's the source |
| 21:13.29 | prot-work | Patlabor221: do you not have release privs on sf? |
| 21:14.18 | prot-work | yes, you do |
| 21:14.21 | prot-work | so post it ;-) |
| 21:14.28 | mmu_man | JBDiGriz [+] |
| 21:14.32 | Patlabor221 | I do |
| 21:14.34 | Patlabor221 | shit |
| 21:14.43 | dakcehguo | lol |
| 21:14.47 | JBDiGriz | mmu_man: Hmm? |
| 21:14.58 | Patlabor221 | wow, I didn't know I was trusted that far :) |
| 21:15.29 | learnerAtWork | lol, pat -- don't worry, I still don't trust you |
| 21:15.43 | Patlabor221 | whooot |
| 21:16.00 | learnerAtWork | :) |
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| 21:16.10 | bzgirl | Patlabor221: that win version has the "classic" chat colors? |
| 21:16.12 | Patlabor221 | ok so how do I post them? I 've never done this |
| 21:16.13 | dakcehguo | heya timriker |
| 21:16.26 | Patlabor221 | that win version has exactly what is in CVS |
| 21:16.30 | bzgirl | ok |
| 21:16.31 | Patlabor221 | as of 15 min ago |
| 21:16.36 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 21:16.37 | bzgirl | ahh |
| 21:16.54 | prot-work | Patlabor221: its got some help stuff if you go to file releases |
| 21:17.48 | Patlabor221 | where? |
| 21:18.04 | Patlabor221 | ahhh admin |
| 21:18.13 | prot-work | you should have an 'admin' link at the top of sf pages |
| 21:18.20 | Patlabor221 | yeah got it |
| 21:18.21 | prot-work | then once you click there, there should be a 'file releases' link |
| 21:19.01 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Should we default blending to off in a release for the Mac? |
| 21:19.25 | Patlabor221 | do I edit a release to add a file to it? |
| 21:19.44 | learnerAtWork | jb: good idea, I think that's a good idea |
| 21:19.48 | prot-work | add |
| 21:19.51 | prot-work | look at the docs :P |
| 21:21.09 | sussudio | french people pronouncing 'peanuts' never gets old |
| 21:21.16 | Patlabor221 | ahh I see anon FTP |
| 21:22.28 | Patlabor221 | but I think I edit the source release for g2 to add a windows zip of the soruce, not make a new one |
| 21:23.57 | sussudio | when i get a clean cvs from sourceforge, it still doesnt get a config.h |
| 21:24.28 | learnerAtWork | it's supposed to get generated during configure |
| 21:24.36 | sussudio | is it supposed to be up to date? |
| 21:24.57 | learnerAtWork | sussudio, is what supposed to be up to date? |
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| 21:25.33 | sussudio | sourceforge cvs |
| 21:25.47 | learnerAtWork | anonymous cvs is half-busted |
| 21:25.50 | dakcehguo | anon cvs is borked |
| 21:25.59 | learnerAtWork | only get's updated once daily, at best |
| 21:26.27 | learnerAtWork | see http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1#cvs |
| 21:26.49 | sussudio | cvs.bzflag.org is still buggered? |
| 21:27.15 | learnerAtWork | and it'll be borked for a couple months.. |
| 21:27.18 | Patlabor221 | whoot I did it :) |
| 21:28.15 | Patlabor221 | tho it seems we each have difrent naming convetions. |
| 21:34.36 | prot-work | Patlabor221: so long as the name is consistent with the rest of the windows |
| 21:34.56 | Patlabor221 | it's what Tim told me to do |
| 21:34.58 | sussudio | something is consistent in windows? |
| 21:35.03 | Patlabor221 | he said old windows stuff was wrong |
| 21:35.26 | Patlabor221 | this was pre-fist |
| 21:35.29 | prot-work | Patlabor221: looks good |
| 21:35.45 | Patlabor221 | well I did a bo bo tho |
| 21:35.52 | Patlabor221 | but I hid it :) |
| 21:35.59 | prot-work | boo boo? |
| 21:36.02 | Patlabor221 | mark and bump CVS |
| 21:36.24 | Patlabor221 | I made another empty windows g0 release, coudn't figure out how to remove it, so just hid it. |
| 21:36.39 | prot-work | hehe |
| 21:37.05 | prot-work | what should cvs be bumped to? :) |
| 21:37.10 | Patlabor221 | 1.9 |
| 21:37.15 | Patlabor221 | head |
| 21:37.16 | sussudio | g3? |
| 21:37.22 | prot-work | i can't do head yet |
| 21:37.26 | Patlabor221 | why not? |
| 21:37.39 | Patlabor221 | are you chicken? |
| 21:38.09 | prot-work | well - if i -do- head, i'll do it when i get home |
| 21:38.15 | prot-work | but i can bump the version |
| 21:38.24 | sussudio | once g2's out there bugs will surface... you'll need to do a g4 bugrelease..... |
| 21:38.34 | Patlabor221 | I would not bump the version till after you mark CVS |
| 21:38.55 | Patlabor221 | your in charge of that sussudio |
| 21:39.00 | sussudio | :-P |
| 21:39.09 | Chestal | no, no more bug fixed for 1.7 |
| 21:39.24 | Chestal | you want bugs fixed -> upgrade to 1.9 then :-) |
| 21:39.30 | dakcehguo | hah |
| 21:39.45 | Patlabor221 | or just make patches for them |
| 21:40.23 | dakcehguo | can you make binary patches? :) |
| 21:41.04 | Patlabor221 | no those woudl be worse the source patches |
| 21:42.41 | Patlabor221 | you would only be able to apply 1 |
| 21:42.43 | Patlabor221 | ever |
| 21:42.52 | dakcehguo | ah |
| 21:43.07 | dakcehguo | so you would just make a whole replacement binary then |
| 21:43.28 | Patlabor221 | but then still you would only ever get 1 patch at a time |
| 21:43.33 | Patlabor221 | and you call yourself certified. |
| 21:43.56 | dakcehguo | then how would you do it |
| 21:44.05 | sussudio | "girl" is supposed to be an insult? |
| 21:44.26 | Patlabor221 | componenet autopatch |
| 21:44.34 | dakcehguo | guh |
| 21:44.46 | Patlabor221 | or write it all in python |
| 21:44.52 | learnerAtWork | if girl is an insult, I've insulted way too many people in my life.. |
| 21:45.12 | dakcehguo | python lol :) |
| 21:45.22 | Patlabor221 | why not |
| 21:45.33 | sussudio | [Soft->] girl |
| 21:45.45 | Patlabor221 | girls smell nice tho |
| 21:45.53 | learnerAtWork | [girl->] pretty |
| 21:46.40 | prot-work | Chestal: =) |
| 21:47.06 | Patlabor221 | cap, should I anounce it on the board? |
| 21:48.25 | Tupone | cap: |
| 21:48.32 | sussudio | Tupone: |
| 21:48.43 | dakcehguo | sus: |
| 21:48.44 | Patlabor221 | sussudio: |
| 21:48.49 | learnerAtWork | learner: |
| 21:48.52 | JBDiGriz | Patlabor221: |
| 21:49.04 | dakcehguo | poor tupone :) |
| 21:49.07 | Patlabor221 | bzgirl: |
| 21:49.27 | Tupone | :) prot: |
| 21:49.28 | prot-work | Patlabor221: announce away |
| 21:49.32 | Patlabor221 | well now that roll has been taken, first order of biz. |
| 21:50.00 | JBDiGriz | Who took the roll? Where's the butter? |
| 21:50.04 | learnerAtWork | I'm going to get in trouble with my perpetual grin.. |
| 21:50.20 | learnerAtWork | save the funny stuff till I get home! :) |
| 21:50.26 | JBDiGriz | Tell your coworkers that you're surfing for pr0n. |
| 21:50.33 | Patlabor221 | no soup for you! |
| 21:50.34 | learnerAtWork | LOL |
| 21:50.34 | dakcehguo | that allways works |
| 21:52.07 | Patlabor221 | cap someone gonna make a mac package? |
| 21:53.06 | learnerAtWork | when I get home unless jb beats me to it |
| 21:53.19 | learnerAtWork | 2 hours |
| 21:54.21 | prot-work | 1.9a0? :) |
| 21:54.44 | learnerAtWork | 2.0b3 |
| 21:54.54 | Patlabor221 | what is the first release of 1.9 gonna be? |
| 21:54.56 | learnerAtWork | the other beta's sucked |
| 21:54.59 | Patlabor221 | b2? |
| 21:55.01 | Patlabor221 | b1? |
| 21:55.03 | Patlabor221 | b0? |
| 21:55.08 | Patlabor221 | or how bout jsut 1.9 |
| 21:55.21 | Patlabor221 | and we can work on 1.8.xxx |
| 21:55.54 | Patlabor221 | didn't Tim say we coudl go to normal versioning |
| 21:56.05 | Patlabor221 | 1.9.0 would be the first one then |
| 21:56.19 | JBDiGriz | I'll put together a release when I get back to the fast machine. |
| 21:57.23 | JBDiGriz | Must be chik, you're closer to Baltimore than Toronto. |
| 21:57.36 | learnerAtWork | lol, jb |
| 21:58.09 | prot-work | Patlabor221: yeah, but i'm not sure i want to do the work for that yet :) |
| 21:58.27 | Patlabor221 | the I would not bump to head till you do that. |
| 21:58.46 | JBDiGriz | If we break the network protocol, shouldn't we go to 2.0? |
| 21:59.27 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 21:59.38 | Patlabor221 | proto was broken in e0 |
| 21:59.48 | Patlabor221 | from 1.7c0 |
| 22:00.14 | Patlabor221 | I would say 2.0 should look difrent |
| 22:00.21 | Patlabor221 | or have some major new features |
| 22:00.28 | Patlabor221 | like a persistant world |
| 22:00.31 | Patlabor221 | "evertank" |
| 22:00.33 | JBDiGriz | I never ran anything before 1.7g0 |
| 22:00.44 | JBDiGriz | I can't keep up with your typing either! :) |
| 22:00.44 | Patlabor221 | I have back to 1.7b2 |
| 22:01.18 | JBDiGriz | I'm used to major breaks meaning major revision level changes, YMMV. |
| 22:01.21 | Patlabor221 | I am realy thinking about making windows use SDL |
| 22:01.31 | dakcehguo | cant linux use sdl also? |
| 22:01.32 | learnerAtWork | same, changing the major number usually denotes a backward incompatible update |
| 22:01.58 | Patlabor221 | well with games its difrent |
| 22:02.02 | dakcehguo | ah |
| 22:02.08 | Patlabor221 | quake 1.1 is not compatable with 1.1.1 |
| 22:02.13 | learnerAtWork | ok |
| 22:02.21 | learnerAtWork | sure |
| 22:02.25 | Patlabor221 | but realy it's what ever the fist decides |
| 22:02.33 | Patlabor221 | as long as it dosn't have the letter thing :) |
| 22:02.56 | learnerAtWork | all hail the fist |
| 22:04.11 | JBDiGriz | LOL, I was just checking on SDL, it came from Executor. |
| 22:04.55 | Patlabor221 | sdl kicks |
| 22:05.22 | JBDiGriz | You have to love the Macintosh! |
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| 22:26.31 | Patlabor221 | could do team fortress tank |
| 22:27.31 | Patlabor221 | ahh just like BZ :) |
| 22:28.07 | dakcehguo | I have played bzflag for a couple hours today |
| 22:34.14 | bzgirl | doug your quite chatty when you play |
| 22:34.38 | bzgirl | woo,waah,wee etc |
| 22:35.12 | Patlabor221 | does he whoa? |
| 22:35.21 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl: Were you scaring learner earlier? |
| 22:36.18 | bzgirl | scaring him? |
| 22:36.48 | bzgirl | he woah;s yes pat |
| 22:37.58 | Patlabor221 | woah |
| 22:38.26 | dakcehguo | I never woahed |
| 22:39.05 | bzgirl | oh you woahed all right |
| 22:39.21 | Patlabor221 | perhaps it was permature woahage |
| 22:39.28 | Patlabor221 | that can happen some times |
| 22:39.32 | bzgirl | :) |
| 22:39.52 | dakcehguo | :P |
| 22:45.48 | Tupone | ~secretplace |
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| 22:47.48 | Noodlebot | here i am! |
| 22:48.08 | learnerAtWork | yes, she scared me.. |
| 22:48.18 | learnerAtWork | threatened me with revenge.. |
| 22:48.28 | Patlabor221 | are you intimadated by women? |
| 22:48.45 | learnerAtWork | strong and beautiful ones? oh yeah. |
| 22:48.49 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 22:49.02 | Noodleman | how should i know if i'm intimidated by women? |
| 22:49.09 | Patlabor221 | they can smell fear you know |
| 22:49.16 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> I bow to your superior knowledge of all things animated or drawn ;) |
| 22:49.37 | Patlabor221 | huh? |
| 22:49.48 | fiberchunks | the gallery stuff ;) |
| 22:50.55 | bzgirl | learnerAtWork: im not strong :) |
| 22:51.42 | learnerAtWork | lol, bzgirl |
| 22:51.53 | dakcehguo | strong in the code, bzgirl is |
| 22:52.49 | JBDiGriz | Her ally is the source, and a powerful ally it is! |
| 22:53.11 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: trivially bump version number |
| 22:54.38 | fiberchunks | hey, how can I see if I have any irc message? |
| 22:54.40 | fiberchunks | s? |
| 22:54.52 | Noodleman | ibot will tell you |
| 22:54.57 | | no idea, Noodleman |
| 22:55.00 | Noodleman | shut up ibot |
| 22:55.11 | dakcehguo | ~botmail check |
| 22:55.16 | dakcehguo | like so :) |
| 22:55.25 | fiberchunks | oh, that's not a serverwide thing -- just per channel? |
| 22:56.22 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: memos? |
| 22:56.24 | dakcehguo | server wide |
| 22:56.35 | dakcehguo | its ibots, memoserv is diferent |
| 22:56.53 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> dunno, that's why I'm asking |
| 22:56.55 | Patlabor221 | memoserv will tell you if you have memos when you identify |
| 22:57.07 | fiberchunks | ah, but what if I'm logged in and get a memo |
| 22:57.14 | fiberchunks | how do I check it |
| 22:57.15 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.16 | Patlabor221 | it shoudl tel you |
| 22:57.18 | Patlabor221 | yeah that |
| 22:57.19 | fiberchunks | thnks |
| 22:57.47 | prot-work | someone should check to make sure CVS knows that its 1.9a0 at the moment |
| 22:57.57 | Patlabor221 | standby |
| 22:58.10 | Patlabor221 | as head? or as the 1_7? |
| 22:58.25 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> thx :) |
| 22:59.49 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221, prot-work, > the user guide for the attachment mod is in the bfoj if you need it |
| 23:00.12 | Patlabor221 | I saw |
| 23:00.41 | prot-work | the v1_7 |
| 23:00.48 | prot-work | i haven't done the head thang |
| 23:01.04 | Patlabor221 | winderz knows it's 1.9a0 |
| 23:02.03 | Patlabor221 | fiber do you have any links to the rpg mods? |
| 23:02.21 | Patlabor221 | munchkin WILL be a viable race |
| 23:05.01 | learnerAtWork | cool, didn't know about memoserv |
| 23:16.23 | fiberchunks | is it autoconf.sh, or autogen.sh |
| 23:16.24 | fiberchunks | ? |
| 23:16.40 | JBDiGriz | autogen.sh |
| 23:16.45 | fiberchunks | yuppers, thx |
| 23:17.00 | JBDiGriz | type it several hundred times, and you won't forget. |
| 23:18.38 | fiberchunks | can a couple of you kind devs check over the following for stupidity, por favor : http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?t=21 |
| 23:23.22 | JBDiGriz | It should mention Project Builder for the mac, and whatever is used for windows. If you would like me to write up mac instructions, I can do that after putting together the package. |
| 23:24.06 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Reid Ellis put together a nice background for the mac package, any suggestions for what we should use? |
| 23:24.55 | Patlabor221 | that should work |
| 23:25.04 | Patlabor221 | tho I would take out <modulename> |
| 23:25.04 | learnerAtWork | jb, background for what? |
| 23:25.09 | Patlabor221 | and put in bzflag |
| 23:25.33 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: the disk image folder |
| 23:26.01 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: ah, ok -- anything's fine with me |
| 23:27.42 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz> please do -- I'll append it to the end, or whatever -- thanks |
| 23:27.43 | prot-work | ok, time to wander off home |
| 23:28.01 | Patlabor221 | say hi to the tennis girls |
| 23:28.09 | learnerAtWork | cap, that time already? .. hrm guess so |
| 23:28.11 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: He had a nice image generated, but I'm not sure what he used. If you have any suggestions, let me know. |
| 23:28.25 | Patlabor221 | learner, where you located? |
| 23:28.28 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: where is teh pic, haven't seen it |
| 23:28.41 | learnerAtWork | Patlabor221: in MD |
| 23:28.55 | learnerAtWork | maryland, for the non U.S.-ians |
| 23:28.56 | Patlabor221 | whoooo, other side from me :) |
| 23:29.10 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: If you download the 1.7g0r7 disk image, and open it, you will see the image in the folder background |
| 23:29.13 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> well, I wanted to imply generality with that -- but I suppose that most of the people using those instructions aren't going to be cvs'ng individual files |
| 23:29.38 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: ah, that one -- yes, that was a nice background, iirc |
| 23:29.39 | Patlabor221 | anyone who uses a difrent module probably knows what they are doing. |
| 23:30.05 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: we could just use the same one again, unless you want to tweak it |
| 23:30.43 | Patlabor221 | you should also mention that if they want to update the code at a later date just to do cvs update |
| 23:30.54 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Since it had Reid's name, website, and the release number on it, we need to change it, and I don't have the tools to regenerate that. |
| 23:31.02 | Patlabor221 | and I put some info on the windows builds in the other post, if you want to gank from that. |
| 23:31.52 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: I'll have a look at it again (don't remember *exactly* what it looks like) |
| 23:32.34 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: iirc, though, it looked like he made a capture while in observation mode |
| 23:32.34 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: I'll email the jpg to you right now, it's easier than looking at it in the distro. |
| 23:32.49 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: ah, ok, even better |
| 23:33.03 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: That was most of it, and then he imaged the release info in the lower right hand corner. |
| 23:33.06 | Noodleman | g2 r0x0rz! |
| 23:33.12 | Noodleman | thx dudes! |
| 23:33.20 | JBDiGriz | Noodleman: m00f! |
| 23:33.25 | learnerAtWork | woot |
| 23:37.02 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-2-2.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 23:37.40 | Patlabor221 | thank the fist! |
| 23:41.46 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: you there? |
| 23:42.33 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: brat@supergrass:~/tmp]$ tar -zxvf bzflag-1.7g2.tgz |
| 23:42.43 | bzgirl | gzip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 23:42.43 | bzgirl | tar: Child returned status 1 |
| 23:44.34 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: got it |
| 23:45.54 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: ah, it's more simple that I thought |
| 23:46.06 | Patlabor221 | wtf, cap didn't gzip it? |
| 23:46.35 | bzgirl | i tried gzip -d and gunzip |
| 23:46.47 | bzgirl | it is compressed though |
| 23:46.50 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 23:46.53 | Patlabor221 | bzip2? |
| 23:47.09 | learnerAtWork | compress? |
| 23:47.15 | dakcehguo | I had problems, I had to redownload it to get it ungzip |
| 23:47.24 | learnerAtWork | odd |
| 23:49.09 | bzgirl | doug: you did it in windows? |
| 23:49.34 | dakcehguo | yea |
| 23:49.47 | Patlabor221 | why not just use the zip file on windows? |
| 23:49.54 | dakcehguo | this was before the zip file |
| 23:49.55 | dakcehguo | :) |
| 23:51.04 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> sorry? what's that |
| 23:51.45 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: how do i unzip a .tgz? |
| 23:52.03 | fiberchunks | hrm, that command should've worked just fine |
| 23:52.08 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~chatzilla@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 23:52.10 | bzgirl | yeah |
| 23:52.13 | fiberchunks | tar xzvf foo.tgz or tar.gz |
| 23:52.20 | bzgirl | yup |
| 23:52.33 | fiberchunks | where is this, on sf.net? |
| 23:52.35 | bzgirl | ok..well somthings wrong with the download i guess |
| 23:52.38 | bzgirl | yes |
| 23:52.46 | bzgirl | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag-1.7g2.tgz?download |
| 23:52.54 | Patlabor221 | heh fiber, I put the pak in that zip with the images for him :) |
| 23:53.04 | fiberchunks | heh, whoops |
| 23:53.16 | fiberchunks | I thought that was a different archive |
| 23:53.17 | Patlabor221 | well everyone loves smilys |
| 23:54.34 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> which architecture did you try and dl bzgirl? I wanna see if your steps produce same results for me |
| 23:55.14 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 23:56.10 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 23:56.22 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: sorry :) |
| 23:56.34 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: i downloaded source |
| 23:56.45 | fiberchunks | well, that's neat, I'm downloading 150% of a file :\ |
| 23:56.57 | Patlabor221 | it had lunch on the way |
| 23:57.41 | fiberchunks | oooo, 200% now -- apparently I needed more than I thought I did ;) |
| 23:57.47 | bzgirl | :) |
| 23:57.59 | dakcehguo | its microsoft percents |
| 23:58.08 | Patlabor221 | it works for me on asgard |
| 23:58.12 | Patlabor221 | maybe just a bad DL |
| 23:58.34 | fiberchunks | yah, or a b0rked d/l manager in galeon |
| 23:58.43 | bzgirl | try wget |
| 23:58.55 | bzgirl | i used mozilla originally |
| 23:59.00 | fiberchunks | I get the same error bz |
| 23:59.04 | fiberchunks | erps, bzgirl |
| 23:59.34 | fiberchunks | it's just a straight tarball, not tar.gz -- try that |
| 23:59.43 | fiberchunks | or this, rather, tar xvf foo.tga |
| 23:59.46 | fiberchunks | foo.tgz |
