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| 00:03.56 | captain_proton | hiya TimRiker |
| 00:04.07 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
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| 00:15.58 | TimRiker | are this dosn't do anything really, just <- you fixed "realy" but not "dosn't" ? ;-) |
| 00:16.58 | captain_proton | TimRiker: hm? where? |
| 00:17.35 | captain_proton | admin-keys patch looks good enough from my vantage point |
| 00:17.54 | bzgirl | register your nick? |
| 00:18.28 | patlabor221 | no he's talking about the one where you use key short cuts to ban and cycle thu commands and stuff |
| 00:18.33 | patlabor221 | register is allrady in cvs |
| 00:18.58 | bzgirl | oh ok, i see that in the new admin patch though, those comands are available |
| 00:18.58 | captain_proton | shall i apply to cvs and let the shit hit the fan if its really broken? :) |
| 00:19.20 | patlabor221 | or the chit hit miachel |
| 00:19.33 | captain_proton | (haven't tested all the new interfaces for patlabor221's commands) |
| 00:21.25 | captain_proton | spragonoll? |
| 00:21.28 | patlabor221 | yup |
| 00:21.45 | patlabor221 | little anoying sprite thingy that's gonna get turned inside out when I find em |
| 00:23.13 | patlabor221 | then for some reason take it's head to this guy who wants them ( nasty ) |
| 00:24.08 | TimRiker | yeah, admin-keys should probably get added. we can always improve it later. |
| 00:29.50 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 00:30.13 | captain_proton | exim: neither action flags nor mail addresses given |
| 00:30.13 | captain_proton | Mailing bzflag-commits@lists.sourceforge.net... |
| 00:42.10 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: mention quick admin in man pages |
| 01:00.08 | TimRiker | what's CIA in? Python? |
| 01:00.12 | TimRiker | ~cia |
| 01:00.14 | | from memory, cia is CVS commit notice bot run on #handhelds.org by NonToxic |
| 01:00.14 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:00.29 | TimRiker | ~cia is also written in python |
| 01:00.30 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 01:01.50 | TimRiker | sources available? (so I can add similar code to ibot someday) |
| 01:02.06 | captain_proton | yep |
| 01:02.44 | TimRiker | http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ does not show a cia |
| 01:03.04 | captain_proton | http://navi.picogui.org/svn/picogui/trunk/tools/irc/cia.html |
| 01:03.58 | TimRiker | ~cia is also http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/cia/ http://navi.picogui.org/svn/picogui/trunk/tools/irc/cia.html |
| 01:03.59 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 01:16.47 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i've also got a pretty-hackish filter script that takes tracker output and sends it through CIA, just lemme know if you want to look at it |
| 01:32.32 | doughecka | heya TimRiker |
| 01:34.22 | captain_proton | TimRiker: can you write up a process for building an rpm? (since the make package doesn't work for it) |
| 01:34.33 | captain_proton | i'd like to reimplement all the package builds under the new system |
| 01:40.25 | fiberchunks | scanlime -- sounds like some sort of script kiddie thang for p2p apps |
| 01:40.25 | doughecka | hey scanline |
| 01:45.22 | scanline | hi |
| 01:45.55 | doughecka | get your warez off scanlime! |
| 01:52.01 | captain_proton | err |
| 01:52.15 | captain_proton | nevermind, thats just the path it compiles in :P |
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| 02:05.51 | sussudio | killer highlight doesnt actually blink |
| 02:06.04 | captain_proton | sussudio: thats because you're running at full opacity |
| 02:06.18 | sussudio | so |
| 02:06.24 | captain_proton | so |
| 02:06.32 | captain_proton | its using a much more efficient method |
| 02:06.41 | doughecka | its a feature |
| 02:06.46 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 02:06.46 | | shut up doug |
| 02:06.47 | captain_proton | which makes it so that it can't blink properly without a major rewrite |
| 02:07.02 | captain_proton | (doesn't even call the control panel update function) |
| 02:07.27 | captain_proton | if you want blinkiness, you'll have to use the transparent view |
| 02:08.21 | sussudio | :-| |
| 02:08.31 | captain_proton | blinking is annoying anyway |
| 02:08.33 | captain_proton | use underline :) |
| 02:08.37 | captain_proton | sussudio: hehehe |
| 02:08.59 | captain_proton | sussudio: sounds like me... |
| 02:09.08 | Noodleman | hey, dude, no hurlin' on the shell, ok, just waxed it |
| 02:09.11 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 02:09.17 | sussudio | urk |
| 02:09.17 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:09.21 | doughecka | sell your house yet? |
| 02:09.28 | Noodleman | nope, not yet |
| 02:09.31 | doughecka | drats |
| 02:09.34 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:09.41 | Noodleman | they've got until the middle of july to get a loan |
| 02:10.17 | doughecka | "specially prepared" |
| 02:10.26 | doughecka | what, pray tell, would that be? |
| 02:10.37 | sussudio | i added tiny pins to the head |
| 02:10.43 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:11.55 | sussudio | 24 needle matrix printer good. inkjets bad. |
| 02:12.29 | sussudio | you dumbass |
| 02:13.20 | sussudio | the laser is mostly harmless. |
| 02:13.29 | doughecka | like earth? |
| 02:14.14 | doughecka | Noodleman: find a job in hoosierville yet :) |
| 02:16.05 | Noodleman | nope, not looking until fall |
| 02:16.11 | Noodleman | i'm taking the summer off |
| 02:16.20 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:16.24 | doughecka | cool |
| 02:16.31 | doughecka | you should visit louisvile |
| 02:16.38 | Noodleman | i plan too :-) |
| 02:16.50 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:17.03 | doughecka | you visit my work no? :P |
| 02:17.09 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 02:18.35 | doughecka | you might find a job up here... |
| 02:18.56 | doughecka | you know, cleaning up after horses... etc |
| 02:19.11 | doughecka | horses just LOVE perl you know :P |
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| 02:23.00 | doughecka | hey paul |
| 02:23.27 | paul | hi doug |
| 02:38.39 | sussudio | oh yeah, this rules. |
| 02:38.56 | sussudio | i filled up a syringe with 50% jellopowder, 50% hot water...... |
| 02:39.08 | sussudio | and sprayed it all over the place outside |
| 02:39.21 | sussudio | it sets on the cold stones |
| 02:39.47 | sussudio | there's purple trails everywhere.... |
| 02:39.50 | Noodleman | haha |
| 02:40.32 | sussudio | strawberry-scented trails...... |
| 02:41.55 | Noodleman | you know what, sussudio? |
| 02:42.09 | Noodleman | you've got way too much time on your hands |
| 02:42.11 | doughecka | people are nuts. |
| 02:42.12 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 02:42.13 | doughecka | ogh |
| 02:42.19 | doughecka | that too, I guess |
| 02:43.41 | sussudio | hmm nuts. |
| 02:43.43 | sussudio | urp. |
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| 02:55.03 | michaelh2 | think we could have a utilities.h and utilities.cxx in common? |
| 02:55.25 | michaelh2 | I have a simple string tokenizer -- I'm not sure it belonged in common.h really .... |
| 02:55.39 | michaelh2 | belonged / belongs |
| 02:56.24 | michaelh2 | that only gets compiled once, right? |
| 03:03.05 | michaelh2 | alrighty since that question was too tough, how do I right the bell? |
| 03:03.32 | michaelh2 | ding! |
| 03:03.34 | michaelh2 | ding! |
| 03:19.10 | *** part/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-107-95.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 03:22.04 | michaelh2 | ding! |
| 03:26.21 | michaelh2 | ding! |
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| 03:49.05 | TimRiker | captain_proton: I think the rpm should be built with rpm. ie: copy the spec to your SPECS directory as bzflag.spec and copy the shipping source tarball to your SOURCES directory, then run rpm -ba bzflag.spec to the the soruce and binary rpms. |
| 03:49.43 | captain_proton | ok |
| 03:49.55 | captain_proton | we should write down what is required to build packages for each system |
| 03:50.05 | captain_proton | ie: windows installer(s), rpm, tardist... |
| 03:50.18 | captain_proton | i don't think solaris has a package format :) |
| 03:50.40 | Patlabor221 | the windows installer pulls everything from the cvs dirs |
| 03:50.41 | TimRiker | agreed. add to one of the readme's? solaris has posix pkgadd |
| 03:50.44 | Patlabor221 | the script is in cvs |
| 03:51.11 | captain_proton | ah |
| 03:51.26 | Patlabor221 | all it realy needs is the binarys built, and the manpages to be converted to html |
| 03:51.34 | Patlabor221 | then just a rright click and you are good |
| 03:51.44 | TimRiker | see the release announcements section at the bottom of the readme. |
| 03:51.58 | TimRiker | package building and posting instructions might want to go there. |
| 03:52.00 | captain_proton | we don't have a pkgmk thingy :) |
| 03:52.23 | TimRiker | need to be careful to post the tarballs in the same format each time. I've screwed that up in the past. |
| 03:52.35 | captain_proton | same format? |
| 03:52.40 | TimRiker | also the win .exe file naming should be the same. iirc g0 is wrong. |
| 03:52.53 | TimRiker | ie: include the same paths and named the same. |
| 03:53.02 | Patlabor221 | easy enough to change, it's right there in the nsi script |
| 03:53.13 | Patlabor221 | just let me know what it shuld be and I can edit it |
| 03:53.24 | captain_proton | oh that |
| 03:53.25 | captain_proton | :P |
| 03:54.05 | TimRiker | bzflag17e6.exe is correct, bzflag-17g0.exe is not. |
| 03:54.17 | Patlabor221 | ok easy enough to change |
| 03:55.16 | Patlabor221 | I"ll get it fixed before the night is out |
| 03:56.16 | TimRiker | bzflag-1.7g0.tgz is correct bzflag-1.7d.9.src.tar.gz is not. I think the tarball should contain a bzflag-<version>\ directory inside. |
| 03:57.22 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: automake 1.4 support, install data files in correct locations |
| 03:57.39 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: cool. thanx. I thought the script just dumped a bzinst.exe and it was a manual step to rename it? |
| 03:57.40 | Patlabor221 | could a windows source zip be put on the server as well? many people screw up the undaring |
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| 03:58.00 | Patlabor221 | ohh no, the script knows the verison and does it all |
| 03:58.11 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: sure. adding a "make zip" step would be a "Good Thing" |
| 03:58.14 | Patlabor221 | I set that thing up to be as smart as it could |
| 03:58.20 | michaelh2 | i'm seeing white boxes shot at me when sb is flying :) |
| 03:58.31 | captain_proton | michaelh2: reinstall the data :) |
| 03:58.34 | Patlabor221 | you need to update your data folder |
| 03:58.36 | captain_proton | new images for SB |
| 03:58.45 | Patlabor221 | cvs -update on everthying |
| 03:58.45 | michaelh2 | I need to delete it all or ? |
| 03:58.53 | TimRiker | cvs up -Pdr v1_7 should do it. |
| 03:59.15 | Patlabor221 | and a regular cvs update in the root dir, wouldn't? |
| 03:59.29 | TimRiker | and then run the new version as ./bin/bzflag (which might soon be ./src/bzflag/bzflag ;-) |
| 03:59.38 | captain_proton | TimRiker: its src/bzflag/bzflag right now ;) |
| 03:59.44 | captain_proton | as of...about 2 minutes ago |
| 03:59.56 | Patlabor221 | your ditching the bin? |
| 03:59.58 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: probably would too, just that one would remove sticky settings etc. |
| 04:00.08 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: have to in order to support automake 1.4 |
| 04:00.17 | captain_proton | thats what 'make install' is for ;) |
| 04:00.18 | TimRiker | ugh.. no... it just forces the right tree. |
| 04:00.19 | Patlabor221 | then I need to change the dsps |
| 04:00.41 | Patlabor221 | and the install scripts |
| 04:00.52 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: the windows build can still do it that way if it wants. |
| 04:01.12 | Patlabor221 | no, not if you want it to work with gcc on windows as well |
| 04:01.33 | TimRiker | the *nix builds that move to ./configure support would likely refer to the bins in src/bz*/* |
| 04:01.41 | Patlabor221 | I can make the VC stuff work the same, it's no problem |
| 04:01.57 | captain_proton | <Patlabor221> no, not if you want it to work with gcc on windows as well <-- huh? |
| 04:02.05 | captain_proton | gcc builds on windows use the autoconf stuff |
| 04:02.07 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: agreed. win* gcc support would be nice. let's move win as well. |
| 04:02.29 | Patlabor221 | so the windows installer would have to deal with the new file locs |
| 04:02.37 | Patlabor221 | so I can't leave them there for the dsp/dsw |
| 04:02.42 | TimRiker | captain_proton: but the win* packaging should expect the same layout for m$vc and gcc builds, yes? |
| 04:02.47 | captain_proton | yes |
| 04:02.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what I'm saying |
| 04:03.01 | captain_proton | how does building the packaging on windows work? |
| 04:03.04 | TimRiker | same == ./configure output. |
| 04:03.13 | Patlabor221 | there are 2 ways |
| 04:03.28 | Patlabor221 | one you right click on the script and say "make bz2" |
| 04:03.41 | TimRiker | bz2 ? |
| 04:03.50 | Patlabor221 | the other is you send it to the script interpreter with a comamnd line |
| 04:03.58 | Patlabor221 | bzip2 compression |
| 04:04.07 | Patlabor221 | it normaly dosn't use a command line tho |
| 04:04.25 | Patlabor221 | it can also do reular zip compression |
| 04:04.34 | TimRiker | to compress the tree inside the output package .exe, yes? |
| 04:04.40 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:04.52 | captain_proton | anyone care to write a profile(4)? =) |
| 04:05.07 | Patlabor221 | now this is just for a binary installer, it dosn't do source |
| 04:05.33 | Patlabor221 | souce would just be a right click winzip thing |
| 04:05.51 | Patlabor221 | I could make a source installer if you wanted |
| 04:05.57 | captain_proton | hrmph |
| 04:06.23 | Patlabor221 | but since windows machines can run off prebuilt binarys I don't see your average user needing |
| 04:07.00 | TimRiker | autoheader needs autoconf and autoconf needs autoheader. what's up with that? |
| 04:07.14 | Patlabor221 | ya know it would be interesting to see if the list server could log what verison/platform the clients it connects to are. |
| 04:07.26 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: nope. binary installer is all. |
| 04:07.41 | Patlabor221 | ok then that's what's there |
| 04:07.48 | TimRiker | cool. |
| 04:08.21 | michaelh2 | lots of rad colors -- but blinking is evil |
| 04:08.22 | Patlabor221 | aww my lesser power field failed :( |
| 04:09.07 | michaelh2 | although I suppose Netscape like blinking speed is even more evil |
| 04:09.29 | TimRiker | [timr@cn014a0868018l1 bzflag]$ autoheader |
| 04:09.29 | TimRiker | /usr/bin/m4: configure.in: No such file or directory |
| 04:09.29 | TimRiker | [timr@cn014a0868018l1 bzflag]$ automake --add-missing |
| 04:09.29 | TimRiker | configure.ac: 11: required file `include/config.h.in' not found |
| 04:09.47 | captain_proton | TimRiker: run aclocal first |
| 04:10.01 | TimRiker | did |
| 04:10.06 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 04:10.11 | captain_proton | try starting clean and run autogen.sh |
| 04:10.40 | michaelh2 | so what exactly is automake suppose to do for people? |
| 04:11.01 | Patlabor221 | lets it build on more systesm easyer I think |
| 04:11.13 | captain_proton | michaelh2: it makes things more cross-platform happy, does tests for libraries, and gives us a build system thats consistent with most of the free software world |
| 04:11.17 | Patlabor221 | makes sure you have all "the stuff" |
| 04:11.44 | michaelh2 | so it whines if things aren't right? |
| 04:11.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:11.54 | captain_proton | yeah...like if you're missing libGL |
| 04:11.57 | captain_proton | it'll tell you so |
| 04:12.05 | Patlabor221 | unlike us who just have to hit F7 :) |
| 04:12.13 | michaelh2 | "You suck.. I'm not going to compile for you" |
| 04:12.20 | TimRiker | /usr/bin/m4: configure.in: No such file or directory |
| 04:12.20 | TimRiker | configure.ac: 11: required file `include/config.h.in' not found |
| 04:12.20 | TimRiker | autoconf: configure.in: No such file or directory |
| 04:12.20 | TimRiker | ./autogen.sh: ./configure: No such file or directory |
| 04:12.20 | TimRiker | No configuration. Use one of the following: |
| 04:12.34 | TimRiker | etc |
| 04:12.39 | captain_proton | erg |
| 04:12.47 | Patlabor221 | it is a good thing tho, it should allow those who don't have VC to build on windows, so I think that's good. |
| 04:12.53 | captain_proton | i think we have to wait for larsl to wake up & finish with his exam |
| 04:12.59 | captain_proton | because i'm not much of an autoconf ninja |
| 04:13.00 | michaelh2 | it's a feature |
| 04:13.02 | michaelh2 | ...... |
| 04:13.34 | Patlabor221 | heh we larsl made autoconf for screamers I couldn't get it to work to save my life |
| 04:13.51 | michaelh2 | so pat.. you mean they can use some misc. non-microsquash compiler? |
| 04:13.55 | captain_proton | TimRiker: are you -sure- we can't just move to scons? =} |
| 04:14.13 | Patlabor221 | yes they could use gcc for windows |
| 04:14.32 | michaelh2 | mightn't this open up doors for teeny-bopper hackers... :) |
| 04:14.42 | captain_proton | michaelh2: hm? |
| 04:14.57 | Patlabor221 | naw they would just warez VS anyway |
| 04:15.08 | michaelh2 | I suppose |
| 04:15.19 | captain_proton | but it does mean we have free builds on windows |
| 04:15.21 | Patlabor221 | heck if creeper could get VC |
| 04:15.22 | captain_proton | (good thing) |
| 04:15.27 | michaelh2 | woohoo |
| 04:15.29 | captain_proton | creeper got VC? |
| 04:15.32 | Patlabor221 | yeahy |
| 04:15.34 | sussudio | VD. |
| 04:15.42 | captain_proton | sussudio: not much chance of that :P |
| 04:15.49 | michaelh2 | whether he knows how to use it..... another question |
| 04:16.01 | sussudio | captain_proton: he got a used doll off ebay. |
| 04:16.08 | captain_proton | ew |
| 04:16.10 | michaelh2 | oh my |
| 04:16.20 | Patlabor221 | no he stole it, he told me so |
| 04:16.23 | michaelh2 | not even new huh |
| 04:16.28 | TimRiker | captain_proton: uhhh... yes. |
| 04:17.00 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: agreed. will it work under cygwin as well? |
| 04:17.19 | Patlabor221 | dono, it should |
| 04:17.39 | TimRiker | what's needed to get ming working? is there a readme now? |
| 04:17.48 | michaelh2 | if it were built under cygwin would it need cygwin to start it? |
| 04:17.49 | captain_proton | TimRiker: atupone says it builds under cygwin (posted some fixes for the autoconf stuffs for both cygwin & mingw32) |
| 04:18.21 | TimRiker | michaelh2: don't know. that would be my next question. ;-) |
| 04:18.42 | TimRiker | captain_proton: sweet. |
| 04:19.24 | TimRiker | once we get it working, I plan to start moving ifdefs over to feature based, as opposed to platform based where that fits. |
| 04:19.47 | TimRiker | and grow a config.h for non-autoconf platforms. |
| 04:20.46 | captain_proton | there are non-autoconf platforms? |
| 04:20.46 | TimRiker | not sure how to handle all the Makefile.in entries for cvs. it would be a pain to have to add them to a .cvsignore in each directory. |
| 04:20.56 | TimRiker | mac 9.x ? |
| 04:21.01 | captain_proton | ew |
| 04:21.28 | TimRiker | sources should still build there. also M$VC is non-autoconf, yes? |
| 04:22.15 | captain_proton | yes, but MSVC doesn't use makefiles at all |
| 04:22.32 | captain_proton | i guess that doesn't impact having a config.h |
| 04:23.22 | TimRiker | if we include the config.h everywhere and remove the WIN/solaris/linux/bsd checks then win* needs to define HAS_FOO etc someplace. |
| 04:23.48 | TimRiker | hence a win* prebuilt config.h for M$VC |
| 04:24.47 | captain_proton | can we please have a plan? |
| 04:24.52 | TimRiker | for? |
| 04:24.59 | captain_proton | bzflag development :P |
| 04:25.05 | Patlabor221 | sorry |
| 04:25.08 | captain_proton | get everyone who wants in together and come up with what we want to do |
| 04:25.10 | Patlabor221 | was running from a badger |
| 04:25.20 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: chris does that sometimes ;) |
| 04:25.21 | Patlabor221 | what was the question |
| 04:25.30 | Patlabor221 | those suckers are MEAN |
| 04:25.41 | TimRiker | let's get the autoconf stuff fixed up if we can. then build test packages on the platforms. then stamp a new version in cvs and build final packages. |
| 04:26.10 | captain_proton | ok, i'm sorta talking about after final packages while you're actually here |
| 04:26.26 | Patlabor221 | so I need to stop imploding badgers then eh? |
| 04:26.26 | captain_proton | the sticky feature-wall isn't going to allow us to get very many big things done |
| 04:27.10 | TimRiker | after finals, then we move g2 to HEAD and break the netcode compat. fix the net issues that we know of and integrate some kind of karma system. |
| 04:27.31 | TimRiker | feature-wall ? |
| 04:27.56 | captain_proton | throw your favorite feature at the wall and see if it sticks |
| 04:28.19 | TimRiker | I'd like to add sizable worlds, limit the laser length to 150% normal shots. limit updates sent to the player from "distant" players. |
| 04:28.31 | Patlabor221 | ok so all the bins go in there respecive source folders? |
| 04:28.39 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: works for me. |
| 04:28.44 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah. static libs go in their own folders too |
| 04:29.29 | TimRiker | change the protocol so client sends version strings including platform. |
| 04:30.18 | TimRiker | change version numbers to x.x.x and then an optional -info like 1.9.0-cvs20030807 |
| 04:31.15 | Patlabor221 | ummm where do I put debug bnarys |
| 04:31.39 | Patlabor221 | in /src/bzflag/debug/whodythunkit.exe? |
| 04:31.52 | TimRiker | change the net proto to a tcp/udp pair on the same port number. remove the multicast, move server updates to udp msgs, etc. |
| 04:32.11 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: anywhere you want. ;-) |
| 04:32.26 | Patlabor221 | not anywhere |
| 04:32.29 | TimRiker | heh |
| 04:32.31 | Patlabor221 | I'll put debug folders |
| 04:32.50 | TimRiker | you can make one debug folder if you like. ;-) |
| 04:33.10 | Patlabor221 | it makes it so you don't have to do a relink just to execute release that's all |
| 04:33.19 | TimRiker | whatever is easier / more normal |
| 04:33.52 | Patlabor221 | well normal is keeping them in the same dir as the dsp, and in debug and release folders, but that's a VC thing |
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| 04:34.16 | fiberchunks | lo NinjaSocks! |
| 04:34.20 | NinjaSocks | sup |
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| 04:34.42 | captain_proton | TimRiker: ever looked at ENet? |
| 04:35.08 | TimRiker | captain_proton: nope. |
| 04:35.10 | Patlabor221 | enet is cool isn't it :) |
| 04:35.11 | TimRiker | ~enet |
| 04:35.33 | Patlabor221 | it's a networking lib for UDP, same one that the CUbe FPS game uses |
| 04:36.29 | captain_proton | ibot: enet is http://enet.cubik.org or a nice udp-only network library for games |
| 04:36.29 | | okay, captain_proton |
| 04:37.07 | Patlabor221 | I"m gonna pull the projects that don't build on windows outa the DSW |
| 04:37.32 | Patlabor221 | and installer ,since it's not needed anymore |
| 04:39.23 | Patlabor221 | what is bzwtransform? |
| 04:40.26 | TimRiker | captain_proton: looks interesting. have you tried it? I'd be willing to test it as a replacement. There are bits I'd like to do that it does not like eventual ipv6 support and proxy support. |
| 04:40.26 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't seem to folow the normal rules |
| 04:40.49 | captain_proton | TimRiker: played around with it a little bit, nothing too serious |
| 04:40.58 | captain_proton | TimRiker: its got some really nice features, like channels :) |
| 04:41.22 | captain_proton | its BSD-licensed, with a pretty clean source |
| 04:41.31 | Patlabor221 | and you like the python bindings :) |
| 04:41.35 | captain_proton | so we could just suck it into bzflag and add whatever features we need |
| 04:42.12 | TimRiker | I'm not against that. ;-) |
| 04:42.16 | captain_proton | er, not quite bsd-licensed |
| 04:44.31 | Patlabor221 | what is bzwtransform? |
| 04:45.42 | captain_proton | looks like its a program that can perform various transforms on bzws :) |
| 04:46.25 | TimRiker | on a different note..... I'm thinking about relicensing bzflag under LGPL. thoughts? |
| 04:46.35 | Patlabor221 | does it need to be part of the normal dsw build? |
| 04:46.56 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i don't really see the point at this juncture |
| 04:47.08 | captain_proton | TimRiker: once we have some generic libraries, maybe portions of it LGPL might make sense |
| 04:47.18 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: it does not. I guess. its for rad <> deg world changes, no? |
| 04:47.31 | Patlabor221 | no that is a perl script |
| 04:47.35 | captain_proton | looks like that is part of its functionality |
| 04:47.42 | Patlabor221 | looks to be a map edit thingy that takes comamands |
| 04:47.52 | TimRiker | captain_proton: just to make that option available. I agree there isn't much that usable as components now. |
| 04:47.53 | Patlabor221 | well I'll make it it's own dsw then |
| 04:49.03 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i'm not sure the entire thing should be LGPL either - someone could rewrite main(), link with 'libbzflag' and sell the game |
| 04:49.28 | TimRiker | revision 1.1 |
| 04:49.28 | TimRiker | date: 2002/02/08 07:06:53; author: dbrosius; state: dead; |
| 04:49.28 | TimRiker | branches: 1.1.1; 1.1.2; |
| 04:49.28 | TimRiker | file bzwTransform.cxx was initially added on branch v1_7. |
| 04:49.28 | TimRiker | - |
| 04:49.42 | Patlabor221 | ooooo dead |
| 04:49.45 | TimRiker | revision 1.1.2.1 |
| 04:49.45 | TimRiker | date: 2002/02/08 07:06:53; author: dbrosius; state: Exp; lines: +568 -0 |
| 04:49.45 | TimRiker | A new tool for generating worlds algorithmically |
| 04:50.06 | Patlabor221 | it's outa there |
| 04:50.06 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i'd be happier if we relicense individual portions as they turn into reusable components |
| 04:50.33 | TimRiker | captain_proton: yeah, but they'd still have to release any changes done inside the game. and they would not get much use out of it without changing things. |
| 04:50.41 | captain_proton | heh, true :) |
| 04:50.58 | TimRiker | so perhaps they would clean up some bits for us. ;-) |
| 04:51.06 | captain_proton | haha |
| 04:51.36 | TimRiker | anyway, I see no reason to stay with GPL over LGPL, so I figured we might as well change it. |
| 04:51.53 | captain_proton | you own copyright on everything? |
| 04:52.09 | TimRiker | yep. cept for md5.* iirc |
| 04:52.38 | TimRiker | I plan to hand off copyright to whoever takes over as project lead after me. |
| 04:52.59 | TimRiker | and so on... |
| 04:53.02 | captain_proton | haha, will be a while |
| 04:53.16 | captain_proton | i think this showed that when threatened with it, you actually pay attention to bzflag ;) |
| 04:54.02 | captain_proton | been for active? |
| 04:54.05 | TimRiker | s/for/more/ |
| 04:54.09 | Patlabor221 | fire.light(eUnderAss) |
| 04:54.46 | TimRiker | well, on that note.... ;-) I better head home and get some food/sleep |
| 04:55.49 | captain_proton | you're still at work?! |
| 04:57.37 | TimRiker | yeah. silly huh? |
| 04:57.42 | captain_proton | very |
| 04:58.08 | captain_proton | don't you have a family? :) |
| 05:03.40 | captain_proton | hm |
| 05:03.43 | captain_proton | first track = best |
| 05:06.01 | TimRiker | yes. they are asleep. |
| 05:06.19 | Patlabor221 | what time do you go to work? |
| 05:06.53 | TimRiker | exim: neither action flags nor mail addresses given |
| 05:07.59 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i'm not sure why that happens. my guess is sourceforge is tweaking |
| 05:10.46 | TimRiker | I update the TODO file. night. |
| 05:11.22 | Patlabor221 | must reist urge to upgrade to NSIS 2.0 |
| 05:12.11 | Patlabor221 | so it's BZFlag${VER_MAJOR}${VER_MINOR}.exe |
| 05:12.20 | Patlabor221 | or is it all lowercase? |
| 05:13.05 | captain_proton | bzflag17e6.exe |
| 05:13.22 | Patlabor221 | ohh no point |
| 05:13.36 | Patlabor221 | bzflag${VER_MAJOR}${VER_MINOR}.exe |
| 05:13.44 | Patlabor221 | with |
| 05:13.44 | Patlabor221 | !define VER_MAJOR 17 |
| 05:13.44 | Patlabor221 | !define VER_MINOR g1 |
| 05:14.55 | Patlabor221 | and it goes into \dist right? |
| 05:15.11 | sussudio | whoopeee. another friggin IE cum patch. |
| 05:15.13 | captain_proton | whatwhat |
| 05:15.47 | Patlabor221 | so this one will be bzflag17g1.exe right? |
| 05:15.54 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 05:16.02 | sussudio | appearently ms99-128903401242 protects against flying monkeys entering your PC through internet explorer |
| 05:24.54 | captain_proton | chess? |
| 05:25.13 | Patlabor221 | the musical |
| 05:25.25 | captain_proton | whatsit about |
| 05:25.25 | Patlabor221 | you know "one night in bangcock" |
| 05:25.28 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 05:25.31 | Patlabor221 | just heard this one song |
| 05:25.41 | captain_proton | bangkok? |
| 05:25.50 | Patlabor221 | yeah soory |
| 05:27.44 | Patlabor221 | well dcc no go |
| 05:35.05 | Patlabor221 | yay debug builds in it's new home |
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| 05:35.34 | captain_proton | HIYA MrApathyCream |
| 05:36.00 | MrApathyCream | hey cappy |
| 05:37.36 | Patlabor221 | 4 down 2 to go |
| 05:39.58 | MrApathyCream | w00t timmy adds a checkin |
| 05:40.44 | Patlabor221 | ok cap, windows is all set up for your new bin/lib locations and the installe has been modified, shold I commit it? |
| 05:41.39 | captain_proton | sure, why not |
| 05:43.00 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Moved all exe and lib files to repective src dirs, fixed installer to work with new locs |
| 05:43.14 | Patlabor221 | there ya go |
| 05:43.32 | MrApathyCream | watcha doin? |
| 05:43.40 | captain_proton | breakinating it |
| 05:43.41 | Patlabor221 | no more /bin and /lib folders |
| 05:43.55 | Patlabor221 | exes go in there /src folders |
| 05:44.03 | Patlabor221 | so says "the fist" |
| 05:45.04 | Patlabor221 | and making the installer have the "proper" name |
| 05:45.14 | MrApathyCream | end result still in dist? |
| 05:45.18 | Patlabor221 | ya |
| 05:45.40 | Patlabor221 | just changed where it pulled the files from |
| 05:45.45 | MrApathyCream | so we run like src\bzflag\bzflag |
| 05:45.52 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:46.00 | Patlabor221 | or if you are on lin, do a make install |
| 05:46.06 | MrApathyCream | ok, silly... but ok |
| 05:46.24 | Patlabor221 | I could make the post build step move them to a bin dir, or even the root on windows |
| 05:46.29 | Patlabor221 | for ease of 'dabugin" |
| 05:47.43 | MrApathyCream | no matta, just havta rememba |
| 05:50.57 | MrApathyCream | usage used to be alphabetically, now it's not, anyone care? |
| 05:51.02 | MrApathyCream | bzfs -help |
| 05:52.46 | Patlabor221 | that's probably my bad |
| 05:53.02 | MrApathyCream | yes, yes it would :) |
| 06:00.21 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 06:00.43 | MrApathyCream | excess flood!! |
| 06:01.31 | Patlabor221 | large commit messages |
| 06:01.41 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't have a limiter? |
| 06:02.03 | captain_proton | it tries to pace |
| 06:02.21 | captain_proton | in this case it was splatting stats out, and with all the projects that are attached to it now that was too much data per second |
| 06:03.05 | MrApathyCream | where does debug vs. release builds go src/bzflag/debug/bzflag ? |
| 06:03.37 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 06:03.46 | captain_proton | last two tunes in animatrix suck donkey balls |
| 06:04.37 | Patlabor221 | "take the blue pill, take the red pill" |
| 06:04.46 | MrApathyCream | what happened with boxwall? |
| 06:04.54 | captain_proton | DONKEY BALLS I SAY |
| 06:04.59 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 06:05.32 | Patlabor221 | I would say giant donkey nutz |
| 06:07.11 | captain_proton | "oh i know, i'll make it sound like its not so repetetive by adding some distortion! YES!" |
| 06:15.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_proton] by ChanServ |
| 06:15.26 | *** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 coming RSN - people on all platforms, please volunteer to test over the next couple days |
| 06:16.08 | captain_proton | bwahaha |
| 06:16.18 | captain_proton | who added the "when tanks fly" items to cafepress? |
| 06:16.30 | Patlabor221 | pobably tim |
| 06:16.32 | MrApathyCream | checkin... |
| 06:18.14 | MrApathyCream | where? |
| 06:18.49 | captain_proton | topic :P |
| 06:19.24 | captain_proton | ima go wetroom now |
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| 06:22.37 | doughecka | greetings |
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| 08:03.30 | captain_proton | bedtime! |
| 10:31.01 | Chestal | tag |
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| 11:06.57 | rooter | good morning all! |
| 11:07.10 | rooter | so... is ducati going to ever come up? |
| 11:08.52 | rooter | ~ducati6 |
| 11:10.32 | rooter | ooohh... ducati is up... just not in the server list. |
| 11:10.59 | rooter | i'm not sure why i'm talking to myself... it looks like all you people are at lunch or something |
| 11:11.32 | rooter | I take that back... ducati is in the list... i'm just blind |
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| 12:27.15 | doughecka | 'lo larsl |
| 12:27.18 | larsl | Hello. |
| 12:27.20 | doughecka | hows life |
| 12:27.21 | doughecka | :P |
| 12:28.02 | larsl | Just did this semester's last exam. =) |
| 12:28.05 | doughecka | yay |
| 12:30.59 | larsl | Is that my automake14-patch that captain_proton has committed, or did he fix it up a bit? I don't think my patch was entirely bugfree. |
| 12:31.22 | doughecka | nothing is bug free |
| 12:49.28 | larsl | Does it work on Cygwin and MinGW now? If it does, maybe some info about it should be added to README.WIN32. |
| 12:52.48 | larsl | "implement one way cross server teleporters" - that sounds cool. =) |
| 12:53.12 | larsl | Play on xmission, go through the teleport - and you're on ducati. |
| 12:54.06 | larsl | We could set up meta-servers that only had a lot of teleporters to other servers, with aggressive bots guarding the teleporters to popular servers. =) |
| 12:56.30 | doughecka | heh |
| 12:56.54 | doughecka | patches welcome |
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| 13:36.21 | Chestal | uh, bzflag.org is messed up? |
| 13:39.19 | doughecka | yea |
| 13:50.59 | [dmp] | odd, bzflag.sf.net works fine. Guess SF is to blame? |
| 13:55.12 | Chestal | sf seemns to have problems, I also get disconnects when using CVS |
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| 13:59.31 | Phactorial | Chestal: Up for a game of chess? ;] |
| 14:02.45 | Chestal | chess? me? |
| 14:02.51 | doughecka | lololol |
| 14:03.07 | Phactorial | Chestal: iirc, I played you chess a LOOOONG time ago, and you kicked my ass :) |
| 14:04.25 | Phactorial | Chestal: xboard |
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| 14:58.33 | Big_Barrel | ~cia |
| 14:58.34 | | hmm... cia is CVS commit notice bot run on #handhelds.org by NonToxic, or written in python, or http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/cia/ http://navi.picogui.org/svn/picogui/trunk/tools/irc/cia.html |
| 14:59.35 | Big_Barrel | ~x en de my mothers dog wears panties |
| 15:01.26 | scanline | ibot: cia =~ s/on #handhelds.org by NonToxic/on #commits originally by scanline/ |
| 15:01.26 | | scanline: OK |
| 15:01.30 | scanline | ibot: cia |
| 15:01.31 | | i heard cia is CVS commit notice bot run on #commits originally by scanline, or written in python, or http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/cia/ http://navi.picogui.org/svn/picogui/trunk/tools/irc/cia.html |
| 15:01.48 | scanline | hmm... |
| 15:02.33 | doughecka | or |
| 15:02.57 | scanline | interesting... there was a CVS commit bot before mine, and it was also named cia? |
| 15:03.10 | scanline | must not be running any more though |
| 15:03.36 | scanline | ibot: forget cia |
| 15:03.36 | | i forgot cia, scanline |
| 15:03.39 | doughecka | lol |
| 15:03.54 | doughecka | plagerism |
| 15:04.06 | scanline | ibot: CIA is a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline. http://navi.picogui.org/svn/picogui/trunk/tools/irc/cia.html |
| 15:04.07 | | okay, scanline |
| 15:10.24 | Big_Barrel | ibot: big barrel |
| 15:10.25 | | it has been said that big barrel is the greatest |
| 15:14.06 | Big_Barrel | ibot: big barrel |
| 15:14.06 | | big barrel is probably the master of the fine arts of beer drinking |
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| 15:33.32 | Mayhem | greetings all |
| 15:34.10 | Mayhem | hmm, I guess since I use the cvs version, I'll be 'volunteering' to test it :) |
| 15:38.15 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:38.26 | Nidhoggr | I tend to use the cvs, as well. |
| 15:41.37 | Nidhoggr | hrm. someone sent me a map but it doesn't show anything. it looks blank, but there is stuff in the map file. |
| 15:41.53 | Nidhoggr | and I don't have the windows editor because I don't have windows. |
| 15:47.54 | Nidhoggr | is the linux editor not being maintained anymore? the link is 404. |
| 15:48.09 | doughecka | ~bzedit |
| 15:48.10 | | methinks bzedit is http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/bzedit-2.1.tar.gz on linux http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit for windows |
| 15:48.12 | doughecka | dunno |
| 15:48.37 | Nidhoggr | hrm. the url looks a little different than the one I went to. |
| 15:48.58 | doughecka | sincec we all know Nidhoggr uses mandrake |
| 15:49.01 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:49.11 | Nidhoggr | ack! |
| 15:52.37 | Nidhoggr | cvs is annoying |
| 15:52.54 | doughecka | sf is having... issues I think |
| 15:53.05 | Nidhoggr | I'm at the gnome cvs site. |
| 15:53.08 | Nidhoggr | so it's not SF |
| 15:53.11 | Nidhoggr | thank goodness |
| 15:53.12 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:53.13 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:53.15 | doughecka | lol |
| 15:53.16 | doughecka | heh |
| 15:53.27 | Nidhoggr | but I dunno how to get the source from a CVS web interface. |
| 15:53.48 | doughecka | piece by piecee |
| 15:53.50 | doughecka | :)P |
| 15:53.57 | Nidhoggr | that would totally suck |
| 15:56.22 | doughecka | indeed |
| 15:56.32 | doughecka | 50% done with cd number 2 |
| 15:56.43 | doughecka | 48% done on cd number 1 |
| 16:04.44 | Mayhem | how are you d/l them doug? |
| 16:05.14 | Mayhem | anything fancy like bittorrent? |
| 16:06.05 | doughecka | wget |
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| 16:07.04 | Mayhem | hi david_v |
| 16:07.11 | david_v | hey Mayhem :) |
| 16:07.20 | david_v | how are things? |
| 16:07.32 | Mayhem | not bad, having a very lazy day at work :) |
| 16:07.52 | Mayhem | hence running IRC... |
| 16:08.05 | david_v | hehe ;) |
| 16:10.23 | Mayhem | ow, it hurts to kick hard drives. must clean computer junk off my floor... |
| 16:10.42 | doughecka | poor hard drive |
| 16:10.57 | david_v | exactly, who cares about his foot :) |
| 16:10.58 | Mayhem | its fine, I'm bleeding :( |
| 16:11.04 | david_v | hm |
| 16:11.13 | Mayhem | my widdle toe *sob* |
| 16:11.22 | david_v | you have plenty of 'em |
| 16:11.35 | Mayhem | umm, two. |
| 16:11.47 | david_v | well i mean toes in general |
| 16:12.41 | Mayhem | yeah, still, wouldn't like to be without any of 'em |
| 16:15.05 | david_v | statistically it's just a difference of 10%, not too tragic |
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| 16:19.55 | david_v | hey Pat |
| 16:20.01 | [dmp] | hi david_v |
| 16:20.04 | david_v | and dmp |
| 16:20.07 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:20.33 | Mayhem | hi dmp |
| 16:21.02 | [dmp] | Howdy Mayhem |
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| 16:41.57 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 16:42.05 | JBDiGriz | m00f |
| 16:42.11 | Noodleman | f00m |
| 16:42.13 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 16:42.33 | Noodleman | CIA seems to have a few bugs to be worked out |
| 16:42.38 | JBDiGriz | Dogcow speaking out of the wrong end :) |
| 16:42.54 | Noodleman | what is Dogcow? |
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| 16:43.17 | JBDiGriz | Clarus the dogcow used to be the symbol of mac programming |
| 16:43.38 | JBDiGriz | You have probably seen the symbol of the cow that looks like a dog |
| 16:43.57 | JBDiGriz | dogcows say "m00f" |
| 16:43.57 | Noodleman | got a URL? i don't recall ever seeing it |
| 16:44.05 | JBDiGriz | Give me a sec |
| 16:44.29 | Noodleman | http://developer.apple.com/products/techsupport/dogcow/ |
| 16:44.35 | Noodleman | there's some info |
| 16:45.03 | JBDiGriz | That's the one, it has the original apple technotes, I just found it as well. |
| 16:46.13 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/svn/misc/trunk/jetstream/extra_media/jetcow2.png |
| 16:46.48 | hardwire | wtf |
| 16:47.43 | JBDiGriz | scanline: That dogcow probably qualified for the Darwin awards! |
| 16:48.11 | scanline | :) |
| 16:52.41 | Noodleman | dogcows |
| 16:53.01 | JBDiGriz | and old fogey programmers |
| 16:53.06 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 16:53.32 | Noodleman | i like the dogcow; i'm going to use it somehow |
| 16:53.46 | Noodleman | i'm a poet and i don't know it |
| 16:54.21 | JBDiGriz | Careful, it's a trademark of Apple. They're pretty liberal, but treat Clarus with respect! |
| 16:54.29 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 17:01.54 | scanline | That was the logo for JetCOW... the Jetstream Copy-On-Write system :) |
| 17:02.13 | scanline | well, one of the logos... |
| 17:02.40 | scanline | there was also: |
| 17:02.41 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/svn/misc/trunk/jetstream/extra_media/jetcow-original.png |
| 17:03.51 | JBDiGriz | That's awful! |
| 17:06.16 | Noodleman | that's weird |
| 17:06.21 | Noodleman | that's all i can say |
| 17:06.42 | scanline | that one was by someone captain_proton knows |
| 17:06.47 | scanline | I did the clarus-like one :) |
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| 17:18.04 | Noodleman | scanline: you say CIA needs a new maintainer? i could rewrite it in perl :-) |
| 17:18.26 | scanline | Noodleman: if you want to maintain it that'd be great |
| 17:19.02 | Noodleman | if someone hasn't already taken over the reins after i move in a month or so, i'd be glad to |
| 17:20.34 | scanline | k |
| 17:23.51 | Noodleman | the dogcow isn't an active trademark anymore |
| 17:23.57 | Noodleman | http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=mni64o.2.1 |
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| 17:26.10 | greg1 | Hi all |
| 17:26.28 | Noodleman | m00f |
| 17:27.33 | [dmp] | Thi greg1 |
| 17:27.37 | [dmp] | -T |
| 17:27.42 | greg1 | hey :) |
| 17:28.57 | Noodleman | dogcow, Noodlebot |
| 17:28.58 | Noodlebot | moof! |
| 17:29.24 | greg1 | :-o |
| 17:29.31 | JBDiGriz | Now it needs to play the au! |
| 17:29.38 | Noodleman | hehe |
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| 18:02.02 | Mayhem_away | what the? |
| 18:09.48 | greg1 | Hi Mayhem |
| 18:09.55 | Mayhem | hiya |
| 18:10.44 | Mayhem | pretty quiet around here... |
| 18:11.00 | greg1 | more busy on the playground :) |
| 18:11.05 | JBDiGriz | How's your toe? |
| 18:13.26 | Mayhem | Recovering, thanks JB :) |
| 18:13.50 | JBDiGriz | I'm glad you didn't have to amputate! |
| 18:14.34 | Mayhem | Good thing I don't play BZ with my feet :) |
| 18:15.12 | JBDiGriz | You should try the foot pedal controls! They really help control the turns. :) |
| 18:15.53 | greg1 | and install turing signals ;) |
| 18:16.01 | greg1 | turning |
| 18:16.15 | JBDiGriz | I liked it better the first time! |
| 18:16.29 | greg1 | arf :) |
| 18:16.48 | JBDiGriz | Maybe that would improve the robot code? |
| 18:17.23 | greg1 | mmmmh I have to see first if it is not more clever than me |
| 18:17.53 | Mayhem | hehe. I want a BZCockpit, with joystick and pedals for controls, and 3D surround viewscreen. |
| 18:18.12 | JBDiGriz | I just want to be able to afford it! |
| 18:18.28 | greg1 | and 220Volts in the keyboard when you get shot ;) |
| 18:18.40 | Mayhem | maybe an ejection handle to jump... |
| 18:18.46 | greg1 | ah ah |
| 18:19.30 | Mayhem | The hard bit would be making the code display on the screen... |
| 18:19.44 | greg1 | wear a helmet ;) |
| 18:28.11 | doughecka | JBDiGriz: improve bot code! yes yes! |
| 18:28.12 | doughecka | :P |
| 18:42.10 | Nidhoggr | *sigh* still having compile problems with linux bzedit |
| 18:42.22 | Nidhoggr | after installing gtkglarea by hand |
| 18:42.37 | Patlabor221 | they tell me the windows one works in wine |
| 18:42.58 | Patlabor221 | you just need some DLLs |
| 18:43.02 | doughecka | hehe |
| 18:43.26 | doughecka | and everybody *knows* that it works better than the linux version |
| 18:43.31 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/DLLKit.zip |
| 18:43.42 | Patlabor221 | I don't know about that |
| 18:43.47 | Nidhoggr | wine==annoying |
| 18:43.50 | Patlabor221 | but at least I have binarys that work |
| 18:43.51 | Nidhoggr | sorry :) |
| 18:43.58 | doughecka | hehe |
| 18:44.02 | Nidhoggr | I might try that later. |
| 18:44.08 | Patlabor221 | well it seems "naive linux = not freakin work" |
| 18:44.30 | Nidhoggr | I'm trying a few different things. |
| 18:44.31 | doughecka | does it need opengl to work? |
| 18:44.59 | Patlabor221 | both editors use GL |
| 18:45.00 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 18:45.15 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:46.01 | Nidhoggr | hrm. I might have fixed it. |
| 18:46.23 | Nidhoggr | now it fails at a new spot. *spit* |
| 18:47.11 | Nidhoggr | I fixed gtkglarea problem, at least. |
| 18:49.02 | Nidhoggr | now I am getting a parse error in some header files. |
| 18:49.55 | doughecka | remember to use lots of smilys |
| 18:51.49 | Nidhoggr | not likely. |
| 18:51.50 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:57.27 | Nidhoggr | cool |
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| 19:08.24 | doughecka | hey hey hey fiberhunks |
| 19:08.52 | fiberchunks | i aint fat albert boy ;) |
| 19:09.06 | doughecka | The Bulk! |
| 19:09.11 | fiberchunks | though some would argue otherwise |
| 19:09.18 | doughecka | heheh |
| 19:09.23 | doughecka | er, The Hulk |
| 19:09.54 | fiberchunks | ay, you have any idea how to turn off the public messages -- Joins and Parts? |
| 19:10.47 | doughecka | xchat? |
| 19:12.05 | fiberchunks | yah |
| 19:12.18 | doughecka | hmmm, dunno |
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| 19:15.27 | Mayhem | maybe in text events... |
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| 19:38.14 | Patlabor221 | wow, cap kept his avatar I game him |
| 19:38.22 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:41.31 | captain_pistachi | more that cap is too lazy to change it |
| 19:41.47 | doughecka | heh |
| 19:41.48 | Patlabor221 | that was the second guess |
| 19:42.08 | Chestal | hmm, what is this \r-fix for? I don't even think it works |
| 19:42.45 | Chestal | there's still no sampel groups file in CVS, is there? |
| 19:44.23 | captain_pistachi | Chestal: windows uses \r :P |
| 19:44.30 | captain_pistachi | "remember the little people on windows" |
| 19:47.09 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: that is a mighty snazzy avatar you have there :) 'don't mean a thing if you ain't got that swing' :) |
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| 19:51.47 | scanline | morning captain_proton |
| 19:52.28 | captain_proton | mornin! |
| 19:53.19 | captain_proton | scanline: any interest in indian tomorrow? |
| 19:53.29 | scanline | sounds good to me |
| 19:53.57 | captain_proton | lots of good things we could make |
| 19:54.11 | captain_proton | moghul duck looks the best, whole foods probably has it frozen |
| 19:54.25 | captain_proton | (the duck) |
| 19:54.57 | captain_proton | and chapatas |
| 19:54.59 | captain_proton | and chai ;) |
| 19:55.04 | scanline | =) |
| 19:56.15 | Patlabor221 | nsf? |
| 19:56.42 | captain_proton | national science foundation |
| 19:56.48 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 19:57.11 | doughecka | its a science to get in :) |
| 19:57.12 | captain_proton | some fokes are using the facilities that i'm in charge of fixinating for a video conference |
| 19:57.25 | captain_proton | and they had a bunch of forms they needed filled out with technical information |
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| 20:14.39 | Chestal | capt: but the fiel is opened in text mode and \r\n should be collpased to \n when read |
| 20:15.01 | Chestal | capt: and if there really is a \r in the file and read as such, the code won#t work anyway |
| 20:15.14 | Chestal | guess I'll change it to read one line at a time and split it at ':' |
| 20:15.29 | captain_proton | sounds like a better method to me |
| 20:15.52 | captain_proton | Tupone: for some reason i can't reply to your mail - misconfiguration on my end |
| 20:16.06 | captain_proton | Tupone: write a README.MINGW32 with instructions for what to do |
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| 20:19.28 | doughecka | 'lo Noodleman |
| 20:19.36 | Noodleman | m00f |
| 20:19.58 | Tupone | captain_proto? |
| 20:19.59 | Noodleman | Mo0f |
| 20:20.00 | doughecka | house sold yet? |
| 20:20.04 | Noodleman | nope |
| 20:20.08 | doughecka | darn |
| 20:20.12 | doughecka | ;0 |
| 20:20.17 | captain_proton | Tupone: you missed my messages? |
| 20:20.23 | captain_proton | Tupone: for some reason i can't reply to your mail - misconfiguration on my end |
| 20:20.31 | Tupone | Ia! Cause I dini't see in time |
| 20:20.31 | captain_proton | Tupone: write a README.MINGW32 with instructions for what to do |
| 20:20.41 | Tupone | Ya! I understand |
| 20:20.55 | Tupone | Sonethin to say about larsl patch on automake-4 |
| 20:21.08 | doughecka | italy.. cool |
| 20:21.13 | captain_proton | i'll talk to tim about maybe importing those sources - not sure about licensing issues |
| 20:21.32 | Tupone | I Suppose to take from SDL! |
| 20:21.43 | Tupone | It's a good Idea? |
| 20:22.45 | Tupone | Have to check. about automake-4 patch from larsl |
| 20:23.02 | captain_proton | what about am1.4? |
| 20:23.04 | Tupone | You missed a file in data/l10n |
| 20:23.16 | captain_proton | ohh did i forget to add that? :P |
| 20:23.23 | Tupone | larsl sent 2 patch |
| 20:23.31 | Tupone | Thats the first |
| 20:24.07 | Tupone | then ... building that way executable are spread all over the directory |
| 20:24.50 | Chestal | with automake I get an error on Debian |
| 20:25.12 | Chestal | it tries to enter some macos dir |
| 20:25.15 | Chestal | Making all in MacBZFlag.pbproj |
| 20:25.18 | Tupone | which automake version you get |
| 20:25.39 | Chestal | 1.4-p6 |
| 20:25.47 | Chestal | the error is durign the actual make |
| 20:26.03 | Chestal | make[3]: Entering directory `/users/thilo/cvs7/bzflag/src/platform/MacBZFlag.pbproj' |
| 20:26.03 | Chestal | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. |
| 20:26.06 | Tupone | 1.4 as problem on the path of executable and library |
| 20:26.13 | Tupone | OK |
| 20:26.33 | Tupone | I did not try on all the platform! i have only a PC. |
| 20:26.53 | Tupone | OK! |
| 20:28.04 | scanline | hmm... |
| 20:28.18 | Chestal | Tupone: it's Debian Linux |
| 20:28.46 | captain_proton | Chestal: automake --version |
| 20:28.54 | Tupone | Why is going on MacBZFlag? |
| 20:29.23 | Chestal | I have no idea |
| 20:29.34 | Chestal | proton: 1.4-p6 |
| 20:29.47 | Tupone | I will try to install on my PC, But I will take some day |
| 20:30.51 | Tupone | captain_proton, remaining with automake 1.4 does not permit us to evolve. |
| 20:31.22 | captain_proton | Tupone: 1.4 supports everything that we need right now, and its best to try to support as many platforms as we can |
| 20:31.25 | Tupone | I got a problem with the VERSION macro that is used by bzflag and also by automake |
| 20:32.01 | Tupone | so I could not use the config.h facility that automake/autoconf gives us |
| 20:32.33 | captain_proton | i'm not quite sure what you're trying to say |
| 20:32.35 | captain_proton | could you rephrase? |
| 20:32.47 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: whoops! forgot to add l10n Makefile.am |
| 20:33.19 | Tupone | automake define its VERSION (#define) and write it on config.h |
| 20:33.19 | captain_proton | finally |
| 20:33.23 | captain_proton | that was a fabillion years ago |
| 20:34.12 | Tupone | config.h is the way autoconf define all discovered thing for the compiler |
| 20:34.19 | captain_proton | yes |
| 20:34.45 | Tupone | for instance if you look for X library it dfeine HAVE_XLIBRARY |
| 20:34.59 | Tupone | or something like that |
| 20:35.53 | Tupone | I could not use that facility 'cause VERSION defined in bzflag conflict with config.h form autoconf |
| 20:36.04 | Tupone | I suppose you follow me |
| 20:36.23 | captain_proton | Tupone: why not change VERSION in bzflag to something else? |
| 20:36.58 | Tupone | Yah! We could change and we could stay with older automake version |
| 20:37.30 | Tupone | I can do that! |
| 20:38.35 | Tupone | Somebody will have to do the same with the VisualC project |
| 20:40.01 | Tupone | I didn't do that before to not cange anything |
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| 20:40.22 | Tupone | Chestal: which debian version you have? |
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| 20:42.21 | doughecka | hey bryjen |
| 20:42.28 | bryjen | hi |
| 20:42.34 | doughecka | where do you live again? |
| 20:42.43 | Chestal | Tupone: curent unstable |
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| 20:42.54 | bryjen | doughecka: Owensboro |
| 20:42.58 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:43.03 | larsl | CIA is back! |
| 20:43.09 | Tupone | Chestal: OK I will try the last I have on CD |
| 20:43.10 | doughecka | Noodleman is moving to evensville |
| 20:43.13 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:43.37 | captain_proton | larsl_56k: yep :) |
| 20:43.40 | doughecka | eww |
| 20:43.42 | captain_proton | larsl_56k: howd the exam go? |
| 20:43.49 | larsl_56k | I think I passed. |
| 20:44.03 | larsl_56k | I won't know for sure for a couple of weeks. |
| 20:44.26 | Tupone | by all |
| 20:44.35 | doughecka | cya |
| 20:45.24 | larsl_56k | captain_proton: Did you fix anything in my automake14-patch, or did you just commit my version? |
| 20:45.40 | captain_proton | larsl_56k: i changed a couple things, but nothing related to automake14 |
| 20:46.02 | captain_proton | my changes were to get it to set the datadir define to the right place and install the data in $datadir/bzflag instead of $datadir |
| 20:46.13 | larsl_56k | OK. I don't think my patch worked well for installation and some other things. |
| 20:46.16 | larsl_56k | Exactly. =) |
| 20:46.17 | captain_proton | meaning (usually) /usr/share/bzflag instead of just dropping it all in /usr/share |
| 20:47.03 | larsl_56k | I don't know why it put everything in /usr/share - I think I used the PKGDATA directory, which should be $(prefix)/share/bzflag. |
| 20:47.45 | captain_proton | it was set to compile the data dir in as $pkglibdir (wrong) |
| 20:47.57 | larsl_56k | Ah. |
| 20:48.21 | captain_proton | and install didn't mention 'bzflag' in it, just datadir |
| 20:48.30 | larsl_56k | Does it work on Cygwin and MinGW now? |
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| 20:57.39 | bryjen | Have I goofed somewheres or are the buildings a different color.... |
| 20:57.47 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:58.26 | bryjen | Looks more like stone or concrete than bricks now. Kinda' runs together as just grey from a distance. |
| 20:59.28 | captain_proton | did pat commit his textures? :P |
| 21:00.11 | bryjen | Those are the .rgb files in data, right? |
| 21:00.16 | doughecka | yea |
| 21:00.38 | captain_proton | looks like he comitted boxwall.rgb |
| 21:00.53 | captain_proton | yipes |
| 21:01.00 | captain_proton | now the game looks like the engineering center at CU :) |
| 21:01.05 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:01.18 | bryjen | boxwall.rgb? nice helpful CVS comment. |
| 21:01.27 | captain_proton | thats the file name |
| 21:01.31 | scanline | give it pipes running along the ceiling! |
| 21:01.51 | bryjen | What i was reading: "Moved all exe and lib files to repective src dirs, fixed installer to work with" |
| 21:02.05 | bryjen | Web CVS browsing |
| 21:02.20 | captain_proton | scanline: =) |
| 21:02.28 | captain_proton | bryjen: looks like the commit may have been accidental |
| 21:02.47 | bryjen | Heh. And then there's : "my your superbullet looks pale, is it ill?" |
| 21:02.59 | captain_proton | =} |
| 21:03.06 | bryjen | Descriptive and humorous. Bonus :) |
| 21:03.31 | captain_proton | i try |
| 21:03.33 | Chestal | boxwall looks nice from a close distance |
| 21:03.46 | Chestal | not so perfect from far away, one can spot a pattern |
| 21:04.03 | scanline | would be cool to use multitexturing to fix that... |
| 21:04.19 | bryjen | Yeah. Up close you can see the "bricks" or whatever there supposed to be |
| 21:04.27 | scanline | one texture scaled pretty big to keep it looking non-patterned from far away, one for close-up detail |
| 21:04.39 | scanline | or even just custom textures for each mipmap level :) |
| 21:04.48 | doughecka | scanline: patches welcome |
| 21:04.54 | Chestal | what shoudl the INFO permission be used for? |
| 21:05.02 | doughecka | cvs [checkout aborted]: Error reading from server cvs.sourceforge.net: 0 |
| 21:05.16 | doughecka | scanline: shouldnt, its dangerous |
| 21:05.36 | bryjen | doughecka: "If you would like to place a call, please hang up and dial again." |
| 21:05.51 | doughecka | I did |
| 21:06.06 | bryjen | doughecka: "and again, and again...." :( |
| 21:06.24 | JBDiGriz | Try after 7pm when the rates are cheaper. |
| 21:06.40 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:06.50 | doughecka | JBDiGriz: you said something about the bot code... |
| 21:06.55 | bryjen | "Thank you for using TCAAS" |
| 21:07.55 | bryjen | Chestal: permission where? |
| 21:08.58 | JBDiGriz | We were talking about user interfaces, and a comment was made about turing (sic) signals. |
| 21:09.01 | Chestal | bryjen: in the new admin system in bzfs |
| 21:09.10 | JBDiGriz | He meant turning signals. |
| 21:09.11 | bryjen | Ah |
| 21:09.15 | doughecka | ah, not the shooting bots |
| 21:09.16 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:09.34 | captain_proton | Chestal: i' |
| 21:09.37 | captain_proton | m not sure its used at all |
| 21:09.46 | JBDiGriz | I thought turing signals would definitely help the shooting bots if implemented :) |
| 21:10.00 | captain_proton | probably pat added it and then changed his mind halfway through writing it |
| 21:10.08 | doughecka | would it? :) |
| 21:10.25 | scanline | would the code for a turing signal include one or more turing tests? |
| 21:10.50 | JBDiGriz | It would clearly have to pass the turing tests. |
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| 21:11.10 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.11 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:11.16 | Chestal | proton: it's not used, but probably intended for something? |
| 21:11.48 | JBDiGriz | Not out talk, just be indistinguishable from a human. |
| 21:13.07 | doughecka | huh |
| 21:13.07 | Chestal | hmm, CIA didn't annoucne my committ |
| 21:13.17 | Chestal | I got "exim: neither action flags nor mail addresses given" |
| 21:13.22 | doughecka | servers kick me for going too fast |
| 21:13.28 | doughecka | this is CVS.. |
| 21:14.49 | captain_proton | Chestal: would have to ask pat about it |
| 21:15.00 | captain_proton | Chestal: i think thats a one-time thing now :P |
| 21:15.03 | captain_proton | should announce from now on |
| 21:15.36 | doughecka | huh |
| 21:15.46 | doughecka | does anyone else get kicked for goin too fast? |
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| 21:16.49 | doughecka | TankSpeed = 25.0f; |
| 21:16.59 | doughecka | yet it still kicks me |
| 21:17.11 | Chestal | strange, I am testing with a local server |
| 21:17.25 | doughecka | works ok for you? |
| 21:17.27 | Chestal | about 50% of the time when I start my client and try to connect to the server, it just hangs |
| 21:17.30 | captain_proton | doughecka: are you setting -speedtol 1 |
| 21:17.31 | captain_proton | err |
| 21:17.33 | captain_proton | -speedtol 100 |
| 21:17.39 | Chestal | when it works once, it works again and again untl I restart the client |
| 21:18.03 | doughecka | would CVS conflict with older CVS servers? |
| 21:18.16 | captain_proton | huh |
| 21:18.33 | captain_proton | conflict what? |
| 21:18.52 | doughecka | the latest CVS have something to do with older CVS servers |
| 21:18.57 | doughecka | client |
| 21:19.07 | captain_proton | why would they conflict? |
| 21:19.15 | doughecka | dunno |
| 21:19.41 | doughecka | maybe when you changed the -speedtol from 1.something to 1-100%, something got messed up |
| 21:19.58 | bryjen | Dare I ask: Is there documentation on the server permissions stuff? |
| 21:20.27 | doughecka | huh |
| 21:20.31 | captain_proton | bryjen: sorta, needs to be expanded |
| 21:20.47 | Chestal | proton: is there somethign at all? |
| 21:21.35 | Chestal | I wonder if we should change the networking part in bzfs.6s, it talks a lot about multicasting |
| 21:22.19 | bryjen | Chestal: The clients don't really communcate with each other anymore, its all relayed through the server, correct ? |
| 21:22.43 | captain_proton | Chestal: there's pat's text file, i think apathy added some documentation to bzfs_conf.html |
| 21:23.17 | Chestal | bryjen: correct |
| 21:25.03 | Chestal | these client hangs are annoying |
| 21:25.22 | doughecka | only on local servers |
| 21:25.22 | doughecka | ? |
| 21:25.30 | doughecka | dumb thing |
| 21:25.47 | Chestal | I have my client hang sometiems when connectign other servers, too |
| 21:25.49 | doughecka | good news is that 1.8 still compiles! :P |
| 21:25.55 | Chestal | but now I'm only testing on my local server |
| 21:26.34 | bryjen | In bzfs_conf.html there's input boxes for password, group, and user databases. But how does one create those files...... |
| 21:27.11 | Chestal | user and password get created autoamtically when a new user registers |
| 21:27.18 | Chestal | group file must be created manually though |
| 21:27.30 | Chestal | it must be documented, as well as all the admin-/-commands |
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| 21:28.51 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: adding sample groups file |
| 21:29.01 | doughecka | heh |
| 21:29.10 | scanline | :) |
| 21:29.14 | Tupone | captain_proton: I noted a problem on the last Makefile.am! |
| 21:29.33 | bryjen | Oooo now there's /help. That's nice. |
| 21:29.40 | doughecka | huhh |
| 21:29.49 | doughecka | it wont make the binarys no more |
| 21:30.44 | captain_proton | huh |
| 21:30.50 | Tupone | captain_proton: on linux the installation directory for data is /usr/share/bzflag/bzflag/ |
| 21:31.04 | Tupone | Suppose too much! |
| 21:31.16 | captain_proton | Tupone: it is? hrmph |
| 21:31.28 | captain_proton | locally my changes make it so that it installs to $datadir/bzflag |
| 21:31.35 | captain_proton | where $datadir = $prefix/share |
| 21:32.06 | bryjen | Oh man. Is parseCommand() just one long if ... else if .... else if ..... else if ..... ? |
| 21:32.13 | captain_proton | bryjen: yeah :P |
| 21:32.17 | doughecka | huh, no /bin folder |
| 21:32.17 | Tupone | If you see on the l10n/Makefile it says $(DESTDIR)$(pkgdatadir)/bzflag/l10n |
| 21:32.34 | Tupone | now pkgdatadir already include bzflag |
| 21:32.59 | bryjen | I Am Not A Programmer(tm), but that's a little ewwww |
| 21:33.02 | captain_proton | doughecka: binaries are now in their respective source directories |
| 21:33.12 | captain_proton | bryjen: yep |
| 21:33.13 | doughecka | huh, forsome reason, when I compile, it puts it in /src/bzflag |
| 21:33.16 | doughecka | oh |
| 21:34.27 | CIA | commit by chestal: add trailing newline |
| 21:34.40 | Tupone | captain_proton: So what we have is that the INSTALL_DATA_DIR macro point to /usr/local/share/bzflag where the data are in /usr/local/share/bzflag/bzflag |
| 21:34.47 | Chestal | commands should probably be sent as a separate mesage type anyway |
| 21:35.16 | Tupone | I didn't try with automake version 1.4 but documentation says it work the same as the new! |
| 21:36.40 | bryjen | And then there's all the if ..then...else...fi logic within each command's block. Meebee I'll wait for some other nice person to write a man page.... |
| 21:36.50 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:38.36 | Tupone | captain_proton: You got it? |
| 21:38.59 | captain_proton | i think, one moment |
| 21:49.27 | Chestal | the cache cleanup code looks a bit scary |
| 21:53.25 | Chestal | should be rewritten, but I'm too lazy now |
| 22:02.00 | CIA | commit by chestal: fixed a bug in the world cache cleanup which could cause the client to hang when joining a server |
| 22:02.37 | captain_proton | ooo |
| 22:05.14 | doughecka | an actual bug fix |
| 22:05.18 | doughecka | impressive :) |
| 22:07.00 | *** join/#bzflag TD (~mike@bdsl.66.13.154.244.gte.net) |
| 22:07.06 | TD | how can i order servers by ping time? |
| 22:07.40 | captain_proton | it doesn't check ping times on servers right now |
| 22:08.15 | TD | ok |
| 22:08.22 | TD | (had enough of the bot tonight :) |
| 22:08.30 | captain_proton | hehe |
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| 22:12.56 | Chestal | good night |
| 22:13.05 | TD | is there any way to play in windowed mode? |
| 22:13.10 | TD | xmms keeps stealing the focus |
| 22:13.17 | captain_proton | bzflag -window |
| 22:13.17 | TD | which makes the window go dark, which means i can't quit |
| 22:13.19 | TD | cool, ta |
| 22:13.34 | captain_proton | then you can alt+tab (or whatever shortcut you use) to regain focus |
| 22:13.51 | captain_proton | i like to run it at my screen resolution windowed without a window border for just that reason =) |
| 22:13.55 | TD | and controlling the res: |
| 22:13.56 | TD | ? |
| 22:14.10 | TD | -zoom? |
| 22:14.18 | captain_proton | -geometry blahxblah |
| 22:14.25 | TD | ah right, thanks |
| 22:14.54 | TD | and to stop it locking the mouse to the window? |
| 22:14.56 | TD | ohh |
| 22:14.57 | TD | odd |
| 22:14.58 | TD | hmm |
| 22:15.13 | bryjen | pausing lets go of the mouse |
| 22:15.27 | bryjen | I think there was supposed to be a key to do that too |
| 22:15.45 | Chestal | I think there's a config entry which prevents mouse grabbing |
| 22:15.52 | TD | strange.... my graphics are all messed up now |
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| 22:43.52 | captain_proton | intriguing |
| 22:43.53 | Nidhoggr | capt proton, I posted a followup to my bzedit compile issues on bzbb. got gtkglarea to work, but now it has some other issues. |
| 22:44.02 | captain_proton | i just got a copy of "computer graphics world" in the mail |
| 22:44.04 | *** part/#bzflag greg1 (~admin@greghub.net1.nerim.net) |
| 22:44.16 | Nidhoggr | sounds like you are a spam target. :) |
| 22:44.55 | Patlabor221 | have you ever had a subscription? |
| 22:45.08 | Patlabor221 | some times they just send them out to try and get people back on |
| 22:45.23 | Patlabor221 | I find CGW horbily lame, allways old news |
| 22:45.33 | Patlabor221 | game mags can't compete with the game sites |
| 22:45.48 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: nope |
| 22:46.07 | Patlabor221 | any other game mag you ever subscribe to? |
| 22:46.16 | captain_proton | nope |
| 22:46.20 | Patlabor221 | odd then |
| 22:46.36 | Patlabor221 | anything interesting in it? |
| 22:47.32 | captain_proton | a little |
| 22:48.25 | Nidhoggr | gotta afk for a while to go pick up partner at work. back later. |
| 23:08.01 | *** part/#bzflag TD (~mike@bdsl.66.13.154.244.gte.net) |
| 23:08.06 | jraitala | I'd like to abandon my team of which I'm the leader, but FAQ states it's impossible for now |
| 23:08.41 | jraitala | I'm going to a vacation and, after that, my military service begins, so I don't have time for bzflag anymore |
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| 23:51.59 | Tupone | Chestal: I tryed on debian/Linux 3.0r0 (that is what is printed on my CD) building system works |
| 23:52.55 | Tupone | Chestal: I suppose you miss some files: Makefile.am on the Mac... dir |
| 23:53.33 | Nidhoggr | well, it's compiling so far. |
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