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| 00:22.16 | fiberchunks_ | lo Patlabor221 |
| 00:22.20 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 00:22.33 | fiberchunks_ | nada -- working on my third gentoo install :) |
| 00:23.33 | Patlabor221 | how fun |
| 00:23.36 | Patlabor221 | why so many? |
| 00:23.47 | fiberchunks_ | heh, cause I've screwed up so many times :) |
| 00:23.50 | fiberchunks_ | first time using it |
| 00:24.01 | Patlabor221 | and it's not fixable? |
| 00:24.22 | fiberchunks_ | oh, it probably is, i just don't know how yet, and i don't mind - got time to kill :) |
| 00:25.18 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 00:25.29 | Patlabor221 | I"m reinstalling all my apps again |
| 00:25.42 | fiberchunks_ | i consider this practice for installing on my 'can't get screwed' machine |
| 00:25.51 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 00:26.24 | fiberchunks_ | spring cleaning? |
| 00:26.49 | Patlabor221 | it had to be done |
| 00:26.57 | fiberchunks_ | assclowns? |
| 00:27.00 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 00:27.03 | Patlabor221 | it was just time |
| 00:27.04 | fiberchunks_ | :) |
| 00:27.05 | fiberchunks_ | ah |
| 00:27.13 | Patlabor221 | had been upgrading this drive for a long wile |
| 00:27.18 | Patlabor221 | it needed to be clensed |
| 00:27.26 | Patlabor221 | and stuff was running realy slow |
| 00:28.48 | Patlabor221 | css? |
| 00:29.07 | captain_proton | bzflag is lagging behind on it :) |
| 00:29.13 | captain_proton | get working you slackers! |
| 00:30.08 | Patlabor221 | does this begin the reign of the Iron Fist? |
| 00:30.17 | captain_proton | OBEY THE FIST |
| 00:30.36 | captain_proton | not yet officially |
| 00:30.37 | captain_proton | but why not |
| 00:32.03 | captain_proton | should probably talk to tim, Chestal & the rest first ;) |
| 00:32.04 | sussudio | obey the tube. |
| 00:32.42 | Patlabor221 | the tube is cilisation |
| 00:33.13 | Patlabor221 | no ddc for you cap? |
| 00:33.24 | captain_proton | dcc should work |
| 00:33.29 | captain_proton | its yer firewall |
| 00:33.38 | scanline | yikes |
| 00:33.39 | Patlabor221 | I'm the dmz |
| 00:33.45 | captain_proton | hm |
| 00:33.49 | captain_proton | well i'm trying to connect |
| 00:33.55 | captain_proton | scanline: hm? |
| 00:33.57 | scanline | emacs' shell script mode has this scary automatic-thingy for here documents |
| 00:34.00 | Patlabor221 | it craped out for me right away |
| 00:34.16 | captain_proton | i didn't reject it :P |
| 00:34.28 | Patlabor221 | wierdness |
| 00:34.53 | Patlabor221 | cus I've dcced to you before, maybe it's this crap client, haven't installed x chat yet |
| 00:36.26 | captain_proton | hah |
| 00:36.31 | captain_proton | SF provides RSS feeds now |
| 00:36.56 | captain_proton | looks a bit better scanline |
| 00:37.04 | scanline | it's a start :) |
| 00:37.15 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/invaderZim-TechnoMix.mp3 |
| 00:37.24 | scanline | could go the whole way with XSLT and CSS2.. but this is enough for now |
| 00:37.37 | scanline | ooh.. zim... |
| 00:37.55 | Patlabor221 | "ride the pig GIR.... ride the pig!!!!!!!!!!!" |
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| 00:38.27 | sussudio | piiiiig |
| 00:40.04 | captain_proton | and picogui pulls far ahead in the commits count |
| 00:40.28 | scanline | silly bzflag slackers! |
| 00:40.33 | scanline | =) |
| 00:40.35 | JBDiGriz | Are there more OSX fixes, or just the ones from learner? |
| 00:41.02 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: the commit? just learner's |
| 00:41.21 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: i added the makefile change (get rid of -I/usr/include) to the autoconf script, needs to be tested |
| 00:41.24 | scanline | captain_proton: it's a bit scary how that CGI script is mostly HTML, but has bits of shell script surrounded by EOF and cat<<EOF |
| 00:41.34 | captain_proton | hee |
| 00:41.58 | JBDiGriz | I just built after applying learner's patches. It went smoothly. Usually OSX builds are done with Project Builder. |
| 00:42.05 | scanline | whoops... that HTML has no <body> tag |
| 00:42.10 | JBDiGriz | It needs some work on the packaging. |
| 00:42.58 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: have you tried building with autoconf/automake? |
| 00:43.33 | JBDiGriz | I tried starting with the "make macosx", and built from there. It builds, but the make package doesn't work. |
| 00:43.57 | JBDiGriz | I also built from the Project Builder project, which builds and creates the package. |
| 00:44.26 | captain_proton | can you do './autogen.sh', './configure', 'make' and see if it builds? |
| 00:44.35 | captain_proton | package builds need to be fixed all around :P |
| 00:46.04 | JBDiGriz | Sure, I'm starting that right now. |
| 00:46.56 | JBDiGriz | There's a failure in the g++, let me look at it for a second, and I'll get back to you. |
| 00:47.04 | captain_proton | k |
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| 00:53.01 | JBDiGriz | It looks like it's missing a library. I'll figure out what's the difference and let you know. |
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| 01:16.46 | michaelh2 | someone is hacking away in cvs ... |
| 01:17.25 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:19.09 | michaelh2 | someone is doing stuff -- changing / closing patches etc |
| 01:19.20 | Patlabor221 | yeah, that hapens and stuff |
| 01:19.30 | Patlabor221 | when the patches are merged into cvs |
| 01:19.36 | michaelh2 | my cherished 3d T patch was summarily closed...... sniff |
| 01:19.47 | michaelh2 | I could of course re-open it :) |
| 01:20.06 | Patlabor221 | yes, we thought it would be best as a client side option, like -whiny |
| 01:20.11 | captain_proton | =) |
| 01:20.25 | Patlabor221 | god I'm gonn have to be your PR guy arn't I? |
| 01:20.27 | michaelh2 | -whiny ? |
| 01:20.30 | captain_proton | hehe no |
| 01:20.32 | captain_proton | i'll behave |
| 01:20.55 | Patlabor221 | for those who care about not shooting people while they type :) |
| 01:21.15 | Patlabor221 | "no realy the fist is good, here let me go over the benifits of the fist...." |
| 01:21.18 | michaelh2 | It's not like I care terribly -- but other games have similar features |
| 01:21.44 | michaelh2 | and it's not like I'm saying that what *I* did was the greatest -- but perhaps some other similar idea? |
| 01:21.50 | captain_proton | michaelh2: most of us agreed that its really annoying to have someone say "you shot me while i was typing, thats RUDE!" |
| 01:22.07 | Patlabor221 | the only game I know of that is popular that does it is Q3a |
| 01:22.16 | captain_proton | they should learn to do one of three things |
| 01:22.32 | captain_proton | (a) monitor the radar whilst typing and grab the mouse in case of emergency |
| 01:22.38 | captain_proton | (b) accept their death |
| 01:22.41 | captain_proton | (c) not type so much |
| 01:22.43 | Patlabor221 | but if people want to not shoot people when they are typing, then hey let them turn it on. they will just get shot more :) |
| 01:22.45 | captain_proton | =} |
| 01:22.58 | michaelh2 | well that's one mindset -- I still thought it was a worthwile feature |
| 01:23.10 | sussudio | instapause scumbags |
| 01:23.14 | michaelh2 | but oh well |
| 01:23.30 | Patlabor221 | the question comes up is, is it an "ofical" thing to say it's not nice to shoot people why they are typing |
| 01:23.30 | JBDiGriz | The MacOS X patch was misapplied, one line was missing. Now on to the next! :) |
| 01:23.31 | captain_proton | well - maybe if it were made a config file option |
| 01:23.40 | Patlabor221 | making it a real feature implies that is is not nice. |
| 01:23.58 | michaelh2 | ? |
| 01:24.05 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: in what file? |
| 01:24.10 | sussudio | Patlabor221: spiff? |
| 01:24.21 | Patlabor221 | coudl make it -spiff :) |
| 01:24.53 | JBDiGriz | src/platform/MacMedia.h |
| 01:24.53 | captain_proton | haha now that would raise his ire |
| 01:24.53 | michaelh2 | in that case what would happen? -- only people that actually use -whiny show their status and see others who do the same? |
| 01:25.18 | Patlabor221 | naw I would send the status for everyone, but only people with the flag see the marker over the tank |
| 01:25.25 | Patlabor221 | or just in the score list |
| 01:25.39 | Patlabor221 | normal people just ignore the status |
| 01:26.02 | JBDiGriz | Others look for the status as a time to hunt! |
| 01:26.15 | Patlabor221 | some will take it that way |
| 01:26.19 | michaelh2 | oh whatever -- I think that is overblown |
| 01:26.36 | michaelh2 | but that's the risk.... |
| 01:26.37 | Patlabor221 | never understimate the large number of assholes out there |
| 01:27.11 | sussudio | teamkillers should get a temporary yellow streak or flag on their tank |
| 01:27.14 | sussudio | or something similar |
| 01:27.28 | Patlabor221 | or friendly fire shoudl be a server option :) |
| 01:27.39 | Patlabor221 | planetside has a nice system for TKs |
| 01:27.45 | Patlabor221 | you get greef points |
| 01:27.56 | Patlabor221 | the more you get the slower you go and the slower you fire |
| 01:28.22 | Patlabor221 | on a true fre for all, there should not be the conecpt of a "team" |
| 01:28.28 | Patlabor221 | it's just a tank color |
| 01:28.30 | sussudio | i added spoogebob protection yesterday |
| 01:28.31 | sussudio | if (source->getTeam() == this->getTeam() && |
| 01:28.31 | sussudio | source->getTeam() != RogueTeam) { |
| 01:28.31 | sussudio | return goodHit; |
| 01:28.31 | sussudio | } |
| 01:29.41 | Patlabor221 | you turned off friendly fire, cept for rouges |
| 01:29.52 | sussudio | yep |
| 01:29.59 | Patlabor221 | I did that in BZflag:zero |
| 01:30.10 | Patlabor221 | that's what I think should be a server option |
| 01:30.15 | sussudio | myeah |
| 01:30.36 | Patlabor221 | time to get food :) |
| 01:30.46 | michaelh2 | so who is david trowbridge? |
| 01:30.52 | Patlabor221 | cap |
| 01:31.06 | michaelh2 | captain proton? |
| 01:31.10 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:31.19 | Patlabor221 | patches are being merged for the release |
| 01:31.29 | Patlabor221 | its a revoultion. |
| 01:31.40 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 01:31.54 | michaelh2 | so that's why you hid the first time.. :) |
| 01:32.08 | Patlabor221 | cap wants to be the master of the iron fist |
| 01:32.10 | michaelh2 | I hope you guys at least take the last thing I did |
| 01:32.24 | michaelh2 | even if it is completely hard coded |
| 01:32.37 | Patlabor221 | the admin commands? |
| 01:32.41 | captain_proton | michaelh2: can you split /genericcommand and flaglimit into separate patches? |
| 01:32.41 | michaelh2 | yes |
| 01:32.52 | michaelh2 | sire |
| 01:32.54 | michaelh2 | sure |
| 01:33.00 | Patlabor221 | there are problems with the admin commands thing |
| 01:33.04 | michaelh2 | do I have them stuck together |
| 01:33.06 | michaelh2 | like? |
| 01:33.22 | Patlabor221 | well with the change I'm making now, there is no longer the conecept of "I'm an admin" |
| 01:33.30 | michaelh2 | doh |
| 01:33.32 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: whoopsies |
| 01:33.33 | Patlabor221 | every command has an assoiated permision |
| 01:33.38 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: try now? |
| 01:33.44 | Patlabor221 | so lots of your asumptions won't work |
| 01:34.03 | Patlabor221 | need to figure out how it's going to work when anyone can have any command |
| 01:34.08 | JBDiGriz | I'll grab it again, but it was only one line, and pretty quick to find. :) |
| 01:34.25 | michaelh2 | that isn't so hard to do really |
| 01:34.39 | Patlabor221 | my admin changes get rid of the entire /password thing |
| 01:34.50 | michaelh2 | so how exactly is it going to work? |
| 01:34.51 | captain_proton | hm |
| 01:34.53 | Patlabor221 | and you don't get "you are now an adiministoator" |
| 01:34.55 | captain_proton | my commit messages are so descriptive... |
| 01:34.55 | Patlabor221 | you log in |
| 01:34.57 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 01:35.00 | michaelh2 | how? |
| 01:35.10 | Patlabor221 | you type /register |
| 01:35.13 | Patlabor221 | and /identify |
| 01:35.24 | michaelh2 | do you *know* if you become an admin? |
| 01:35.26 | Patlabor221 | the server has a list of what permisions each person has, and groups |
| 01:35.33 | michaelh2 | ok |
| 01:35.35 | Patlabor221 | there isn't an "admin" anymore |
| 01:35.45 | Patlabor221 | so I could add like you to the "cop" group |
| 01:35.50 | Patlabor221 | and you could kick and ban |
| 01:35.54 | Patlabor221 | but not restart the server |
| 01:35.58 | Patlabor221 | or any other admin command |
| 01:36.12 | michaelh2 | could you at least distinguish between "you are nobody -- have no admin commands" |
| 01:36.13 | Patlabor221 | it's up to each server admin to decide what each group gets |
| 01:36.18 | michaelh2 | and you have some admin powers? |
| 01:36.31 | Patlabor221 | a server admin could set the default state to have any command if he wanted to |
| 01:36.41 | michaelh2 | pfffffffft |
| 01:36.42 | Patlabor221 | like if he wanted anyone to be able to do a countdown |
| 01:36.49 | michaelh2 | I understand :) |
| 01:36.52 | Patlabor221 | or anyone to do playerlist |
| 01:37.10 | Patlabor221 | there will be a command to list your permisions |
| 01:37.12 | captain_proton | could you guys perhaps add in some negociation to determine which commands a user has access to? |
| 01:37.13 | Patlabor221 | so you could call that |
| 01:37.22 | Patlabor221 | that's what I just said :) |
| 01:37.23 | JBDiGriz | cvs is giving me the infamous "Connection reset by peer", but the diff looked good. |
| 01:37.33 | Patlabor221 | peer kicks ASS |
| 01:37.56 | Patlabor221 | the client woudl have to look for a /password or a /identify |
| 01:38.02 | Patlabor221 | then ask the server what perms you had |
| 01:38.10 | Patlabor221 | but there are also messages sent when your perms change |
| 01:38.14 | Patlabor221 | like if you are added to a group |
| 01:38.22 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: don't you send a "congrats you identified correctly" type message? |
| 01:38.29 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:38.33 | Patlabor221 | he could look for that |
| 01:38.38 | captain_proton | yep |
| 01:38.42 | Patlabor221 | in adition to the "you are now an admin" |
| 01:38.49 | Patlabor221 | cus that old stuff still works as it used too |
| 01:38.52 | captain_proton | in addition? |
| 01:38.55 | captain_proton | hm |
| 01:38.57 | captain_proton | ok |
| 01:39.15 | Patlabor221 | yeah /password sets you as temp admin |
| 01:39.15 | captain_proton | so Patlabor221, can you have it send a list of commands along with the congrats message |
| 01:39.20 | captain_proton | and then michaelh2 can peel that out? |
| 01:39.49 | Patlabor221 | you want that or should he call the command to list your perms |
| 01:40.03 | Patlabor221 | he could send a /getperms |
| 01:40.24 | Patlabor221 | when ever he gets the id message, or a "your permisions have changed" message |
| 01:40.30 | michaelh2 | how do I know when the list is over ? -- and not just other lines being sent from the server? |
| 01:40.41 | Patlabor221 | I'll put it all in one line :) |
| 01:41.42 | Patlabor221 | or you could just add "you have IDed" to your "you are admin" check, use all the commands, and if they use something they can't do, it will just fail |
| 01:41.47 | Patlabor221 | that may be ok for now |
| 01:41.53 | michaelh2 | I vote for that |
| 01:42.07 | Patlabor221 | untill this can all be pulled out of the text part and moved to real messages. |
| 01:42.11 | michaelh2 | would complicate things quite a bit |
| 01:42.23 | michaelh2 | need to "unhardcode" things otherwise :) |
| 01:42.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah, make it robust and all that. |
| 01:42.53 | Patlabor221 | if they did a command they couldn't use, they would just get "unknown command" |
| 01:43.26 | michaelh2 | as it is now |
| 01:43.56 | michaelh2 | so cap are you tim's right hand man, so to speak? |
| 01:44.08 | captain_proton | err |
| 01:44.10 | Patlabor221 | no, there is upsurping hapening. |
| 01:44.12 | captain_proton | sorta assuming that role |
| 01:44.16 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 01:44.23 | Patlabor221 | "viva la revolucion!!!!" |
| 01:44.23 | captain_proton | might take over, need to discuss it more with everyone |
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| 01:44.41 | michaelh2 | is tim suggesting that? |
| 01:45.00 | michaelh2 | I'm too junior to suggest otherwise .... |
| 01:45.03 | Patlabor221 | no, but he didn't say it was a bad idea |
| 01:45.07 | captain_proton | tim doesn't seem opposed - Chestal was the one who originally suggested that someone else might take over as maintainer |
| 01:45.10 | Patlabor221 | Tims never here |
| 01:45.37 | Patlabor221 | I recomended deligation of it all multiple times, but he never commented on it. |
| 01:45.49 | sussudio | let's make Doug maintainer (he said with a straight face) |
| 01:46.17 | Patlabor221 | I vote for creeper |
| 01:46.23 | michaelh2 | lol |
| 01:46.40 | Patlabor221 | or a council of doug, creeper, hoda, and cell. |
| 01:46.41 | sussudio | or maybe Chikorita, every release will be lagged about 5 months |
| 01:46.49 | michaelh2 | Let me do it and we'll have lots of spinning objects all over the place |
| 01:46.56 | Patlabor221 | and in no known language |
| 01:47.05 | sussudio | visual basic? |
| 01:47.07 | michaelh2 | klingon emblams |
| 01:47.17 | Patlabor221 | no, spoken language |
| 01:47.32 | michaelh2 | uh oh |
| 01:47.58 | michaelh2 | I am not connected to a network -- it doesn't cache network servers |
| 01:48.07 | michaelh2 | local network that is |
| 01:48.31 | michaelh2 | I figure if it can ping to find servers -- it doesn't need a list server to do it |
| 01:49.02 | captain_proton | hey it works :) |
| 01:49.14 | scanline | captain_proton: why iptables rather than /etc/hosts? |
| 01:49.38 | captain_proton | scanline: dunno - i like how with iptables i can simulate the remote port being closed |
| 01:49.47 | scanline | ah |
| 01:49.50 | captain_proton | iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d 208.186.182.172 -s 0.0.0.0/0 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset |
| 01:50.17 | michaelh2 | oh to simulate the list server not responding? |
| 01:50.40 | captain_proton | that simulates it like the list server is just not running bzfls |
| 01:51.21 | captain_proton | scanline: problem is it pulls the IP address from http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/list-server.txt |
| 01:51.32 | scanline | oh |
| 01:51.43 | captain_proton | but working with -j DROP it uses the cache too |
| 01:51.54 | scanline | well, you could point bzflag.sf.net at localhost and run a web server to give it a different IP :) |
| 01:52.01 | scanline | but then iptables becomes easier |
| 01:52.10 | captain_proton | michaelh2: does it display the cache until it gets a list from bzfls? |
| 01:52.44 | michaelh2 | if it errors out in communicating with the server it dumps the entire cache into the list |
| 01:52.54 | michaelh2 | the process happens each time you do "find" |
| 01:53.17 | michaelh2 | so if you do find it tries to connect to the list server again |
| 01:53.18 | captain_proton | ok |
| 01:53.37 | captain_proton | i'm gonna post a patch updated to current CVS, have people test? |
| 01:55.43 | michaelh2 | it changes menus.cxx & menus.h quite a bit |
| 01:55.52 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:56.53 | michaelh2 | cvs server: [18:56:40] waiting for davidtrowbridge's lock in /cvsroot/bzflag/bzflag/package/mac |
| 01:57.00 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 01:57.29 | michaelh2 | you a mac guy too? |
| 01:57.37 | michaelh2 | --> i'm not |
| 01:57.53 | captain_proton | nope |
| 01:58.13 | michaelh2 | anyway I can extract the plain text out of a patch? |
| 01:58.23 | captain_proton | what do you mean? |
| 01:58.28 | michaelh2 | get rid of |
| 01:58.29 | michaelh2 | _ |
| 01:58.31 | michaelh2 | + |
| 01:58.31 | michaelh2 | + |
| 01:58.32 | michaelh2 | + |
| 01:58.38 | captain_proton | oh whitespace? |
| 01:58.41 | captain_proton | just delete it |
| 01:58.50 | captain_proton | although that can fuzz the patch |
| 01:58.53 | michaelh2 | no all the lines wind up with + in front of them |
| 01:59.10 | captain_proton | you mean blank lines with a + |
| 01:59.16 | captain_proton | (where its inserting a line of whitespace) |
| 01:59.36 | michaelh2 | I mean I have real paragraphs of code -- but there's tons of + stuck in front of it |
| 02:01.58 | michaelh2 | you are the man.... :) |
| 02:02.34 | captain_proton | best way is to apply the patch, delete the whitespace, then make a new diff |
| 02:02.59 | captain_proton | i cleaned up some of that in this patch when updating it |
| 02:03.20 | captain_proton | oh wait - you want the bare code out of the patch? |
| 02:03.23 | captain_proton | thats weird :) |
| 02:03.28 | captain_proton | + means adding this line |
| 02:05.40 | michaelh2 | I just find it annoying to willy nilly apply a patch that doesn't quite apply right |
| 02:10.51 | scanline | noooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
| 02:11.13 | captain_proton | when we've got the random patches section i'll move it there, k? |
| 02:11.18 | scanline | My patch expands BZFlag's strategical horizons by giving it an edge in the flight sim genre! |
| 02:11.25 | scanline | :) |
| 02:12.50 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 02:12.55 | captain_proton | i'd like to try to get the patches section to be only "open" patches |
| 02:13.55 | captain_proton | wow this pad thai is far too sweet |
| 02:15.19 | *** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 is coming RSN || everyone please test: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=722705&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 02:16.05 | captain_proton | michaelh2: what platform are you on? |
| 02:16.37 | *** topic/#bzflag by Patlabor221 -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) || everyone please test: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=722705&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 02:17.00 | captain_proton | haha |
| 02:17.11 | Patlabor221 | it was ether that or (obey the fist) |
| 02:17.22 | Patlabor221 | did you get that mp3? |
| 02:17.51 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 02:17.53 | captain_proton | haven't yet listened |
| 02:18.00 | Patlabor221 | it's funny |
| 02:19.05 | Patlabor221 | so will the tagline for g2 be "for the people by the people" ? or "Iron fist of justice" or "Ninja socks" |
| 02:19.20 | fiberchunks_ | ninja monkeys |
| 02:19.34 | Patlabor221 | ninja sock monkeys! |
| 02:19.34 | captain_proton | i like scanline's suggestion |
| 02:19.45 | captain_proton | "steely eyed bananna" |
| 02:19.54 | fiberchunks_ | lol |
| 02:20.14 | scanline | "Thinly sliced bannana of sweet retribution" |
| 02:20.15 | Patlabor221 | "undercover wombat" |
| 02:20.26 | captain_proton | scanline: oooo |
| 02:20.38 | scanline | =) |
| 02:20.57 | michaelh2 | order ...... who'd a thunk it |
| 02:21.07 | Patlabor221 | shit, there is an order |
| 02:21.17 | captain_proton | haha |
| 02:21.31 | Patlabor221 | I was grouping mine logicly |
| 02:21.46 | fiberchunks_ | seems the kernel 2.4.20(whatever) has a bug in it with highmem enabled :\ so all this recompiling i've been doing was not because i screwed up (which is amazing frankly :) ) |
| 02:22.11 | captain_proton | ok, time to split apart /genericcommand and flaglimit |
| 02:22.56 | Patlabor221 | huzahhh I can build again |
| 02:23.01 | captain_proton | is flaglimit already in CVS? |
| 02:24.00 | captain_proton | hey lookit that |
| 02:24.12 | Patlabor221 | damn this is a good song, toobad the movie it came from sucked |
| 02:24.17 | Patlabor221 | cap would like this |
| 02:25.33 | michaelh2 | yes it is |
| 02:25.46 | michaelh2 | I'm working on that already :) |
| 02:25.58 | michaelh2 | unless you want to |
| 02:27.18 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: slight documentation change |
| 02:28.03 | Patlabor221 | you should do one that is "make suck less" |
| 02:32.55 | michaelh2 | that was harsh :) |
| 02:34.53 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: add -sl to the man page |
| 02:35.52 | captain_proton | its pretty simple, mostly just have to follow the format thats already there |
| 02:36.00 | scanline | "fun, but...no" :) |
| 02:36.02 | michaelh2 | there's also an ability to limit GR RE BL PU flags |
| 02:36.14 | michaelh2 | which is not mentioned |
| 02:36.21 | michaelh2 | I hacked that in |
| 02:36.25 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 02:36.35 | captain_proton | GR RE BL PU? |
| 02:37.45 | dougheckaa | grunt, record blow and puw flags |
| 02:38.08 | captain_proton | ~sud |
| 02:38.09 | | shut up doug |
| 02:38.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net] by Patlabor221 |
| 02:38.16 | *** kick/#bzflag [dougheckaa!~jeffm@adsl-64-173-107-53.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by Patlabor221 (damn man) |
| 02:38.23 | michaelh2 | red green blue purple flags |
| 02:38.26 | captain_proton | haha |
| 02:38.26 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 02:38.27 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 02:38.40 | Patlabor221 | boy never learns |
| 02:38.45 | michaelh2 | pretty sure those were the 'id' s I added |
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| 02:38.51 | doug__ | hey |
| 02:38.53 | doug__ | unban me |
| 02:38.58 | Patlabor221 | learn |
| 02:38.59 | michaelh2 | -sl RE 3 |
| 02:39.08 | michaelh2 | limits 3 shots with the red flag |
| 02:39.23 | michaelh2 | not sure of the exact id's I stuck on them |
| 02:39.24 | Patlabor221 | ahhh that cool |
| 02:39.38 | Patlabor221 | so you could have it so you could not shoot with the flag then? |
| 02:39.42 | michaelh2 | but it's only in the parsecommands thing |
| 02:39.44 | michaelh2 | yes |
| 02:39.56 | michaelh2 | or they could shoot once :) |
| 02:40.01 | michaelh2 | can't limit to no shots :) |
| 02:40.04 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 02:40.11 | captain_proton | perhaps we should make those IDs global? |
| 02:40.20 | michaelh2 | perhaps ... |
| 02:40.21 | captain_proton | right now Flag.cxx just has "" for all the team flag IDs |
| 02:40.26 | Patlabor221 | why not just R G B and P? |
| 02:40.35 | michaelh2 | pat -- what a shocking notion :) |
| 02:40.40 | Patlabor221 | do they have to have 2 letters? |
| 02:40.43 | michaelh2 | G is genocide :) |
| 02:40.46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: nope |
| 02:40.48 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 02:40.56 | Patlabor221 | damn geno |
| 02:41.02 | michaelh2 | uniform that's all -- easily changed |
| 02:41.02 | Patlabor221 | change it to gn :) |
| 02:48.31 | dougheck | hrm |
| 02:48.39 | dougheck | ok, I learned :) |
| 02:49.21 | Patlabor221 | I don't think you have |
| 02:49.29 | Patlabor221 | web IRC sucks dosn't it :) |
| 02:49.33 | dougheck | nope |
| 02:49.38 | dougheck | I aint using web irc |
| 02:49.44 | dougheck | epic all the way :) |
| 02:50.18 | Patlabor221 | it's all banable :) |
| 02:50.47 | dougheck | not nidhoggr :| |
| 02:53.14 | captain_proton | dougheck: his fault for giving you a shell |
| 02:54.25 | Patlabor221 | and it wouldn't ban him, I could just get you :) |
| 02:54.36 | captain_proton | troo |
| 03:00.26 | dougheck | chanset |
| 03:12.06 | michaelh2 | null pointers are *not* cool |
| 03:19.14 | captain_proton | http://navi.picogui.org/cgi-bin/cia_stats.cgi <-- get working, people! |
| 03:20.41 | scanline | =) |
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| 03:27.05 | heinola | hello all |
| 03:27.23 | captain_proton | 35 open patches :) |
| 03:28.47 | heinola | were to i put custom maps in linux for bzfs to serve ? :) |
| 03:29.03 | heinola | im to used to windozs |
| 03:29.17 | captain_proton | current working directory is usually good :) |
| 03:30.43 | heinola | where is bzflag installed by default on mandrake lol |
| 03:30.52 | heinola | having trouble finding |
| 03:30.54 | captain_proton | `which bzflag` |
| 03:31.23 | heinola | 1.7g0 |
| 03:31.35 | captain_proton | thats not what i meant :P |
| 03:31.36 | captain_proton | run that command |
| 03:31.43 | captain_proton | it'll tell you where it is in the filesystem |
| 03:31.51 | heinola | ok will do |
| 03:32.23 | heinola | usr/games/bzflag |
| 03:32.28 | heinola | cool |
| 03:33.29 | heinola | so when i make a .bat ill direct it to look there if i put my maps & ect there |
| 03:33.51 | captain_proton | i'd suggest not putting the maps in the executable directory |
| 03:34.02 | captain_proton | and .bat is a windows-only thing (read up on shell scripts) |
| 03:35.29 | heinola | ok will do |
| 03:41.45 | heinola | shellshock have good info on shell scripts ? |
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| 03:43.06 | captain_proton | dunno, you'd have to look |
| 03:43.19 | heinola | :) |
| 03:43.21 | captain_proton | hiya trepan...finally got that patch in :) |
| 03:43.36 | trepan | hehe, yup, my first |
| 03:44.26 | trepan | was that you that put it in? |
| 03:44.33 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 03:44.53 | trepan | thank you then |
| 03:45.16 | captain_proton | made a few simple changes to it, but its mostly the same |
| 03:46.00 | trepan | ya, i had to keep the msg underlining for my own use (bad eyes) |
| 03:46.10 | trepan | ...slow brain |
| 03:47.18 | trepan | i was horrified to see you removed the blinking version number ;O) |
| 03:47.26 | scanline | yikes |
| 03:47.44 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 03:48.40 | captain_proton | should probably make it automatically strip codes with -echo if on windows |
| 03:48.40 | trepan | thx again cap, later |
| 03:48.45 | captain_proton | later |
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| 04:00.44 | heinola | cool i think me gotts it lol |
| 04:00.54 | fiberchunks_ | gentoo is a godsend -- what a killer distro |
| 04:01.15 | heinola | as far as shell scripts for bzflag |
| 04:01.26 | heinola | ty |
| 04:01.48 | heinola | i need a test :) |
| 04:02.06 | sussudio | heinola: how much is 1+1? |
| 04:02.11 | heinola | 2 |
| 04:02.13 | heinola | lol |
| 04:02.14 | sussudio | good. |
| 04:02.24 | heinola | hpc.servegame.com |
| 04:02.45 | heinola | i didnt say alot that is good for sure lol |
| 04:02.46 | sussudio | ? |
| 04:03.15 | heinola | bzflag server test |
| 04:05.57 | sussudio | snort |
| 04:10.47 | michaelh2 | captain -- I updated the patch on sourceforge to just the /genericcommand |
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| 04:12.30 | captain_proton | hm, problem reading empty lines |
| 04:15.48 | michaelh2 | I just updated the file -- |
| 04:16.04 | michaelh2 | I can delete my own files that I upload -- whoot! |
| 04:17.21 | michaelh2 | I'm not sure that using char buffers like message[MessageLen] is a great idea -- I managed to fubar the server just by placing such a statement somewhere |
| 04:17.33 | michaelh2 | started getting kind of goofy |
| 04:17.47 | michaelh2 | one such variable is global already, right? |
| 04:18.33 | captain_proton | which variable? |
| 04:18.35 | michaelh2 | Ummm this is very n00bish of me, but i would really like to be more |
| 04:18.35 | michaelh2 | involved |
| 04:18.35 | michaelh2 | in this, but have no idea in what language this is. :-/ |
| 04:18.45 | michaelh2 | someone actually *said* this? |
| 04:18.53 | michaelh2 | ?? |
| 04:19.05 | captain_proton | where? |
| 04:20.02 | michaelh2 | developers forum |
| 04:20.04 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 04:20.51 | captain_proton | weird |
| 04:22.49 | sussudio | cell? |
| 04:22.58 | captain_proton | no |
| 04:23.53 | michaelh2 | wasn't there a global message char[] before? or am I thinking of the client? |
| 04:24.24 | captain_proton | there might be, i didn't think there were any globals with so common a name |
| 04:24.53 | michaelh2 | I don't see it in the server..... |
| 04:25.14 | michaelh2 | vc++ seems to allow goofy things like accessing variables that are *not* in scope but that are nearby |
| 04:25.25 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 04:25.50 | michaelh2 | like for (int i =0; i < 3; i ++) { } |
| 04:26.11 | michaelh2 | and then print(i) will give you gibberish |
| 04:26.12 | captain_proton | oh yeah, VC++'s for scoping is broken |
| 04:26.34 | michaelh2 | did they just do it on the cheap or what? |
| 04:26.54 | captain_proton | well ANSI allowed that as of about 5 years ago |
| 04:27.03 | heinola | well gn all cya later |
| 04:27.22 | captain_proton | then they changed it, and all the major compiler vendors except microsoft changed their stuff |
| 04:27.35 | heinola | ty captain_proton |
| 04:27.58 | michaelh2 | they still doing it in .net ?? |
| 04:28.19 | captain_proton | not sure, i'm not too current on MS |
| 04:28.22 | captain_proton | Patlabor221 might knwo |
| 04:28.24 | captain_proton | know* |
| 04:29.05 | michaelh2 | I hardly qualify as current -- |
| 04:29.18 | captain_proton | at least you use VC++ regularly :) |
| 04:29.21 | michaelh2 | I kind of freaked out the first time I saw it |
| 04:29.31 | captain_proton | i've got a copy but rarely have to use it |
| 04:29.43 | michaelh2 | variable 'i' already defined -- then I said .... what the.... |
| 04:30.03 | fiberchunks_ | hah, the ultimate gaming center :) http://arrakis.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ps2/cluster.php |
| 04:31.19 | michaelh2 | have you resurrected dead patches or did I just never see these other ones? |
| 04:31.39 | captain_proton | which other ones? |
| 04:31.42 | captain_proton | i haven't ressurected anything |
| 04:31.47 | captain_proton | killed off a few :) |
| 04:47.23 | CIA | commit by michaelh20: shot limit must be 1 or more, limiting to no shots makes no sense and can't be done clientside anyway -- also crashed with just -sl and no arguments |
| 04:48.35 | michaelh2 | what the heck is CIA ? :) |
| 04:48.49 | captain_proton | a commit announce bot :) |
| 04:50.21 | michaelh2 | pretty dinky little change as you can see |
| 04:51.18 | michaelh2 | it doesn't work to try to limit shots to 0 shots since the person shooting sees it before the server does |
| 04:51.54 | captain_proton | yup |
| 04:52.16 | michaelh2 | was that autoconfig stuff you were working on before? |
| 04:53.04 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 04:54.05 | michaelh2 | makefile things? |
| 04:54.45 | captain_proton | ah |
| 04:54.47 | michaelh2 | this is not really a bug -- lol |
| 04:54.48 | captain_proton | automake/autoconf |
| 04:55.45 | michaelh2 | -- not that I know anything about it |
| 04:59.36 | captain_proton | you'll like the next one even better |
| 05:00.13 | michaelh2 | I sometimes get *2* copies of posts from the lists :) |
| 05:13.37 | fiberchunks_ | har har -- check out what sco runs for it's website :) http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=on&mode_w=on&site=sco.com&submit=Examine |
| 05:14.09 | captain_proton | oofa |
| 05:14.11 | captain_proton | 45 open bugs |
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| 05:27.55 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: this isn't an issue anymore is it? : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=232236&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 05:28.16 | captain_proton | weren't there a bunch of win32 netcode bugs that were fixed (checking return values) related to it? |
| 05:30.34 | michaelh2 | unsure |
| 05:30.52 | michaelh2 | I think this was before I was looking at it |
| 05:32.11 | michaelh2 | plus it doesn't effect the person playing with the server in the background, it effects how that player looks to other people |
| 05:32.37 | michaelh2 | or did |
| 05:32.52 | MrApathyCream | not thtat i know of |
| 05:33.11 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: return codes, no |
| 05:33.37 | MrApathyCream | so captain_proton are you the new maintainer? |
| 05:33.43 | captain_proton | not officially |
| 05:33.52 | MrApathyCream | 59 bzmails from you |
| 05:33.56 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 05:34.12 | captain_proton | can someone on windows test the concurrent server/client thang? |
| 05:35.41 | MrApathyCream | checking |
| 05:35.49 | captain_proton | plus test the latest version of the patch in topic :) |
| 05:35.49 | MrApathyCream | run server, connect to other server, right? |
| 05:35.56 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 05:36.59 | MrApathyCream | grabbing latest cvs |
| 05:37.05 | MrApathyCream | piling |
| 05:39.13 | michaelh2 | seems to work |
| 05:39.23 | captain_proton | michaelh2: cache? |
| 05:39.27 | michaelh2 | ok -- others see me, etc.. |
| 05:39.34 | captain_proton | ah that |
| 05:39.37 | michaelh2 | Just with a server running in background |
| 05:39.48 | captain_proton | ok i'm gonna say its fixed then |
| 05:39.57 | captain_proton | since that wasn't an intermittent-type bug |
| 05:40.30 | michaelh2 | I'm on win98... |
| 05:40.54 | captain_proton | it was all windows |
| 05:41.12 | captain_proton | because microsoft has an equally-busted sockets implementation on ALL VERSIONS! YAY! |
| 05:41.46 | MrApathyCream | fixing warnings |
| 05:41.48 | MrApathyCream | --side tracked |
| 05:42.21 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: Warnings cleanup |
| 05:43.25 | MrApathyCream | nifty (CIA) |
| 05:43.37 | michaelh2 | CIA who are you |
| 05:43.41 | captain_proton | isn't it? :) |
| 05:43.49 | michaelh2 | surely |
| 05:43.51 | captain_proton | http://navi.picogui.org/cgi-bin/cia_stats.cgi |
| 05:45.22 | michaelh2 | but at least they have office assistant |
| 05:45.33 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 05:45.37 | captain_proton | oh microsoft |
| 05:45.42 | michaelh2 | the paper clip dude |
| 05:46.03 | MrApathyCream | no problems either |
| 05:46.50 | MrApathyCream | BTW a quite common happenstance on xmission is the appearance of a flag on the field that isn't there (not on radar and can't be picked up) |
| 05:46.51 | michaelh2 | Could try downloading an older version :) |
| 05:47.19 | michaelh2 | eh? |
| 05:47.29 | michaelh2 | you see it out the window then? |
| 05:47.34 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 05:48.00 | michaelh2 | is it running with any particular configuration? |
| 05:49.06 | MrApathyCream | just the new hix, nothing else unusual |
| 05:49.09 | MrApathyCream | afaik |
| 05:49.23 | captain_proton | yeah i've noticed that |
| 05:49.36 | captain_proton | seems to get worse as the server runs |
| 05:49.46 | michaelh2 | is the server from cvs? |
| 05:49.56 | MrApathyCream | yes latest |
| 05:50.06 | MrApathyCream | well almost latest |
| 05:50.26 | captain_proton | probably prior to my attacking cvs |
| 05:51.22 | michaelh2 | so can everyone see the phantom flag or just one particular person? |
| 05:51.35 | MrApathyCream | yup, prolly circa 3/1/03 |
| 05:51.41 | captain_proton | dunno if everyone sees the same phantom flag |
| 05:51.42 | MrApathyCream | everyone |
| 05:52.00 | MrApathyCream | ok, well > 1 anyway |
| 05:52.53 | michaelh2 | it's interesting -- most projects have some bug-hunting release and a "stable" release |
| 05:57.31 | michaelh2 | well I am off to bed.. nighty night |
| 05:57.55 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: care to test the cache? |
| 05:58.04 | MrApathyCream | cache? |
| 05:58.09 | captain_proton | topic :) |
| 05:58.56 | MrApathyCream | is it in cvs? |
| 05:59.01 | captain_proton | no |
| 05:59.04 | MrApathyCream | sounds like a goody |
| 05:59.09 | MrApathyCream | oh ok |
| 05:59.13 | captain_proton | the patch works for me but i don't want to commit it until i know that it doesn't explode on windows |
| 05:59.16 | MrApathyCream | one sec |
| 06:01.27 | MrApathyCream | patched clean... |
| 06:02.13 | captain_proton | can you filter your outgoing access to the server list? |
| 06:02.31 | captain_proton | so turn on the cache, retrieve the server list, quit, turn on filter, try to retrieve list but instead get cache |
| 06:02.50 | MrApathyCream | filter == unplug phone cord :) |
| 06:02.56 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 06:02.59 | captain_proton | that works |
| 06:03.32 | MrApathyCream | leaving now, will be back |
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| 06:05.47 | MrApathyCream | seems to work fin e |
| 06:06.09 | captain_proton | ok, i'll commit it in a minute then |
| 06:06.31 | MrApathyCream | sw33t |
| 06:06.38 | MrApathyCream | that was really a fine idea |
| 06:06.48 | captain_proton | indeedy |
| 06:06.56 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 06:07.13 | captain_proton | the poor fools on the bz dev lists who don't pay attention to the project anymore are gonna be unhappy |
| 06:07.25 | MrApathyCream | w/ number of mails? |
| 06:07.33 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 06:07.38 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:09.31 | MrApathyCream | CIA: to you have anything to say? |
| 06:09.38 | MrApathyCream | mmmm |
| 06:12.22 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: server list cacheing |
| 06:13.07 | MrApathyCream | w00t |
| 06:15.34 | MrApathyCream | and with that, off to bed |
| 06:15.40 | captain_proton | 'night |
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| 06:42.32 | fiberchunks_ | how goes the iron fist? |
| 06:43.07 | captain_proton | it goes |
| 06:43.22 | fiberchunks_ | how many patches have you merged or removed thus far? |
| 06:43.54 | fiberchunks_ | i have a good feeling bout the state of development if you do 'officially' take over maintenance |
| 06:44.30 | captain_proton | looks like 5 patches merged |
| 06:44.46 | fiberchunks_ | is there a listing on sf that i can look at? |
| 06:44.58 | captain_proton | well there's the patches tracker |
| 06:45.03 | fiberchunks_ | ah |
| 06:45.33 | captain_proton | unfortunately it doesn't let you query by status (meaning you could look at all accepted patches, etc) |
| 06:47.02 | fiberchunks_ | well, it lets you query deleteds |
| 06:47.28 | fiberchunks_ | yeah, a merged and accepted would be nice |
| 06:48.33 | captain_proton | deleted is weird |
| 06:48.44 | captain_proton | because the patches i marked as rejected are classified as closed, not deleted |
| 06:49.14 | fiberchunks_ | that's odd -- and then there's a patch idea from brosius about the nemesis thing, which is _in_ bzflag, iirc |
| 06:49.36 | captain_proton | link me |
| 06:49.42 | fiberchunks_ | one sec |
| 06:50.06 | fiberchunks_ | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=439484&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 06:51.14 | captain_proton | its classified as deleted |
| 06:51.34 | fiberchunks_ | yeah -- which is clearly wrong -- since i know , does 'send to nemesis' |
| 06:51.43 | fiberchunks_ | hrm |
| 06:52.16 | fiberchunks_ | there's no 'superceded' option either, which would be nice for cross-referencing, imho] |
| 06:53.11 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 06:54.39 | fiberchunks_ | argh, i hate the default date sort of sf - why are the newest incorporated patches not shown first? (perhaps i'm an idiot, and haven't configured something right) |
| 06:55.57 | fiberchunks_ | lol, 'fun...but...no' |
| 07:03.50 | captain_proton | if all goes well we'll get in patlabor221/michaelh's admin stuff in the next few days, test for a couple days, and release by next mon. |
| 07:04.21 | fiberchunks_ | hooray! |
| 07:04.49 | fiberchunks_ | so what, 3 more weeks till 1.9 ;) |
| 07:05.02 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:05.48 | *** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) || everyone please test server list cacheing, appears to work (current CVS) |
| 07:06.41 | fiberchunks_ | once i get gentoo fully blown, i'll grab cvs and check er out (perhaps i'll make an ebuild, that should be an interesting exercise) |
| 07:10.51 | sussudio | why is there a vorbis include in cvs anyway? |
| 07:11.01 | captain_proton | huh |
| 07:11.09 | captain_proton | are you talking about 1.7? |
| 07:11.12 | sussudio | yes |
| 07:11.17 | captain_proton | where |
| 07:11.26 | sussudio | hm |
| 07:11.32 | sussudio | it's getting an awful lot of files |
| 07:12.24 | sussudio | version 10707001 |
| 07:12.36 | sussudio | that's still 1.7 isnt it |
| 07:12.39 | fiberchunks_ | did you do co -r v1_7 ? |
| 07:12.41 | captain_proton | should be |
| 07:12.46 | sussudio | no, cvs update -Pd |
| 07:12.47 | captain_proton | point me to the file in question :P |
| 07:12.52 | captain_proton | sussudio: ohh |
| 07:13.08 | captain_proton | sussudio: that'll update you to 1.8 :P |
| 07:13.13 | captain_proton | sussudio: cvs up -Pdr v1_7 |
| 07:13.52 | sussudio | it's still compiling with -DVERSION=10707001 |
| 07:14.48 | captain_proton | arg |
| 07:14.54 | captain_proton | wtf are the birds awake at this hour for |
| 07:14.56 | sussudio | hm? |
| 07:15.00 | captain_proton | now it'll be hard to get to sleep |
| 07:15.32 | sussudio | get some earplugs..... or a cat |
| 07:15.44 | fiberchunks_ | or a shotgun |
| 07:16.40 | sussudio | or a spiff-scarecrow..... he'd be whining at the birds and they'd either drop dead of boredom or peck his eyes out |
| 07:17.17 | fiberchunks_ | oh my :) |
| 07:22.16 | sussudio | hm bzflag --version still gives me 1.7g1 protocol 1.7e |
| 07:22.39 | sussudio | so the cvs update -Pd just works.... |
| 07:22.49 | fiberchunks_ | start it up and see if you can connect to 1.7 servers |
| 07:22.57 | captain_proton | yet you said you saw a vorbis thing |
| 07:23.01 | sussudio | i dont have a 3d card in there |
| 07:23.02 | fiberchunks_ | perhaps the -DVERSION string is wrong |
| 07:23.15 | fiberchunks_ | shouldn't matter, just be slower than a dog? |
| 07:23.23 | sussudio | or X |
| 07:23.34 | fiberchunks_ | ah, well than that's a problem :) |
| 07:23.43 | sussudio | it's a P166 |
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| 07:24.47 | captain_proton | how could you compile bzflag without X? |
| 07:25.03 | sussudio | since when do you need X to compile something? |
| 07:25.13 | captain_proton | you need the X libraries for it to link |
| 07:25.18 | captain_proton | and the X headers for it to compile |
| 07:25.22 | sussudio | so? |
| 07:25.30 | sussudio | that's just the -dev stuff |
| 07:25.40 | captain_proton | uff |
| 07:25.44 | captain_proton | silly binary packaged systems |
| 07:25.44 | sussudio | hm? |
| 07:25.52 | sussudio | how so? |
| 07:27.52 | captain_proton | they're just silly |
| 07:27.57 | sussudio | no it's not |
| 07:28.42 | captain_proton | you really think i'm seriously trying to argue this? :) |
| 07:28.49 | sussudio | *shrug*. |
| 07:37.35 | sussudio | bzflag.exe - 0 error(s), 20 warning(s) |
| 07:37.36 | sussudio | snort. |
| 07:39.15 | captain_proton | feel free to fix the warnings if you are so inclined ;) |
| 07:39.34 | sussudio | :-P |
| 07:39.40 | fiberchunks_ | lemme guess <foo.h> instead of <foo> |
| 07:39.49 | sussudio | win32 compile |
| 07:40.14 | sussudio | i have a debian and a win2000 pc |
| 07:41.11 | sussudio | what am i supposed to check again? |
| 07:41.35 | captain_proton | you said there was vorbis stuff |
| 07:41.39 | captain_proton | i want to see it |
| 07:42.07 | sussudio | hm. you added the server list cache thing and now it overlaps the message window |
| 07:42.20 | captain_proton | huh |
| 07:43.37 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/overlap.gif |
| 07:44.16 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 07:44.41 | captain_proton | care to file a quick bug about how the options page needs to be split into 2 pages? |
| 07:46.02 | sussudio | hm pwetty colors. |
| 07:46.22 | sussudio | file....bug......report.....? |
| 07:46.26 | fiberchunks_ | heh, looks like the gay pride flag |
| 07:46.31 | fiberchunks_ | :P |
| 07:46.33 | sussudio | wha? |
| 07:46.39 | fiberchunks_ | the colors |
| 07:47.04 | sussudio | umm ok |
| 07:47.28 | fiberchunks_ | nm, reminded me of a sticker i see all over the place here on the backs of cars |
| 07:50.15 | sussudio | did you change anything with the rendering in the last 2 weeks? |
| 07:51.19 | captain_proton | not that i know of |
| 07:51.23 | captain_proton | seeing something strange? |
| 07:51.30 | sussudio | no it just looks different |
| 07:51.36 | sussudio | either that or it's just to f******* hot in here |
| 07:52.27 | sussudio | btw it only gives me compiler warning when i compile debug, not release |
| 07:57.41 | captain_proton | naptime for me |
| 07:57.50 | fiberchunks_ | nite |
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| 08:02.25 | bomber_ | moin |
| 08:03.49 | sussudio | lo pigbomber |
| 08:16.52 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (dennis@blade4.cs.auc.dk) |
| 08:32.39 | bomber_ | ahh suss....u have today "a pig day" again ? |
| 08:34.41 | sussudio | piig |
| 09:41.27 | *** join/#bzflag larsl (~larsl@c213-100-62-39.swipnet.se) |
| 09:46.40 | larsl | Wow, people have been busy tonight. |
| 09:55.03 | *** join/#bzflag bomber_ (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 09:55.07 | bomber_ | moin |
| 09:55.16 | bomber_ | :o) |
| 09:55.53 | larsl | Looks like g2 is actually coming RSN. =) |
| 09:56.32 | larsl | More activity in the CVS tonight than during the last few weeks combined. |
| 09:59.47 | [dmp] | howdy |
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| 10:34.12 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.08 | bomber_ | hi |
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| 11:02.11 | [dmp] | hi david_v |
| 11:02.27 | david_v | hey |
| 11:02.42 | david_v | i'm back, a bit rusty, but back :9 |
| 11:02.44 | david_v | :) |
| 11:03.14 | [dmp] | hehe cool :) |
| 11:04.53 | david_v | the grades were good... could've been better of course ;) |
| 11:09.52 | [dmp] | Congrats. Im somewhat worried about my exam. :-\ dont really understand this stuff, and niether do my groupmates. Im not sure if that is a good or fatal sign. |
| 11:10.35 | david_v | hmm |
| 11:10.41 | david_v | what stuff is it? |
| 11:16.29 | [dmp] | This descrete math, those damn math proofs |
| 11:16.46 | david_v | oh |
| 11:16.47 | [dmp] | Im not sure when its a valid proof, or when its not. |
| 11:17.20 | [dmp] | Its abit creepy, i wanna learn it, but if i pass,s i guess i need to re-read this stuff, so i understand ig prober. |
| 11:17.38 | david_v | k... |
| 11:18.13 | david_v | well good luck |
| 11:18.49 | [dmp] | Thanks, gonna need it, i think. Just too bad we dont really have the time to re-read it before the exam. |
| 11:19.04 | david_v | we dealt a bit with discrete mathematics but i don't think we dealt much or anything with mathematical proofs like that |
| 11:20.34 | [dmp] | Oh, anyway. If i dont show up on ducati suddenly, you know why :) |
| 11:21.01 | david_v | heh |
| 11:22.55 | david_v | brb |
| 12:07.18 | Chestal | tag |
| 12:09.26 | dougheck | hey che |
| 12:09.46 | dougheck | chestal |
| 12:09.47 | dougheck | :) |
| 12:10.28 | ak|ra | he chest |
| 12:10.37 | ak|ra | niederlage verarbietet? |
| 12:11.04 | dougheck | chestal: mind if you unban me? |
| 12:11.26 | [dmp] | hi Chestal |
| 12:12.35 | Chestal | ak|ra: jo, ich bin wieder gesund :-) |
| 12:12.41 | Chestal | dough: ducati? |
| 12:12.45 | dougheck | no |
| 12:12.47 | dougheck | #bzflag |
| 12:12.48 | dougheck | :) |
| 12:12.55 | Chestal | but you are here :-) |
| 12:13.06 | dougheck | check the list |
| 12:13.07 | dougheck | brb |
| 12:13.11 | dougheck | ban list* |
| 12:13.49 | Chestal | I don't know your usual address |
| 12:14.09 | Chestal | bluegrass? |
| 12:14.31 | Chestal | ~logs |
| 12:14.32 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 12:14.32 | dougheck | yea |
| 12:14.40 | dougheck | check the logs :) |
| 12:19.05 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net] by Chestal |
| 12:19.19 | dougheck | thanks |
| 12:19.21 | Chestal | well, I don't really know what happened, but I'll unban you for now anyway |
| 12:19.23 | dougheck | errr |
| 12:19.24 | dougheck | danke |
| 12:19.30 | Chestal | pat can ban you again later :-) |
| 12:19.33 | dougheck | yea |
| 12:19.38 | dougheck | he wont though :) |
| 12:19.59 | dougheck | bah, its in the logs |
| 12:20.04 | dougheck | er, not in the logs yet |
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| 12:20.24 | dougheckaa | thanks nidhoggr :P |
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| 12:36.30 | dougheckaa | :\ |
| 12:37.43 | larsl | captain_proton: The list cache seems to work for me too. |
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| 12:54.44 | dougheckaa | wow, what does this mean? |
| 12:54.45 | dougheckaa | Reply from 202.84.143.17: TTL expired in transit. |
| 13:38.21 | larsl | What will be the codename for g2? g0 was "Holy dancing monkeys", e6 was "Armoured smashing fist". |
| 13:38.31 | dougheckaa | I named g0 :P |
| 13:38.44 | dougheckaa | can I pick this next one? :) |
| 13:39.50 | dougheckaa | how about "The Flying Pigs" |
| 13:39.53 | larsl | Only one more to go! |
| 13:39.55 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 13:40.11 | dougheckaa | whats the last one? |
| 13:40.23 | larsl | Thermodynamics & statistical mechanics. |
| 13:41.26 | dougheckaa | huh, I dont know what this ip goes to.. |
| 13:41.32 | dougheckaa | its got all sorts of ports open |
| 13:47.30 | dougheckaa | Bzflag g2 "Bowinae Giol Ouoth" release. |
| 13:50.39 | larsl | Eh? |
| 13:50.50 | dougheckaa | as a new name :P |
| 13:51.03 | larsl | Something to do with cows? |
| 13:51.12 | dougheckaa | hmm |
| 13:51.23 | larsl | Or what does Bowinae mean? |
| 13:51.30 | dougheckaa | nothing |
| 13:51.37 | dougheckaa | that whats the random name thing spit out |
| 13:51.37 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 13:52.16 | larsl | What was the name of that bot that made cyborg acronyms? |
| 13:52.19 | dougheckaa | bzflag g2 "Psycho Cow" release. |
| 13:52.23 | dougheckaa | um |
| 13:52.24 | dougheckaa | sugar |
| 13:52.40 | dougheckaa | B.Z.F.L.A.G.: Biomechanical Zombie Fabricated for Logical Assassination and Gratification |
| 13:53.18 | larsl | G.T.W.O.: Galactic Troubleshooting and Warfare Organism |
| 13:53.28 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 13:53.49 | dougheckaa | Lifelike Artificial Repair and Sabotage Lifeform |
| 13:54.15 | larsl | I prefer this one: |
| 13:54.18 | larsl | L.U.T.H.M.A.N.: Lifelike Upgraded Technician Hardwired for Mathematics and Accurate Nullification |
| 13:54.27 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 13:55.26 | dougheckaa | Bzflag g2 "Psycho Pig" release. |
| 13:55.31 | dougheckaa | that better? |
| 14:02.09 | dougheckaa | ~topic add BZFlag g2 "Wasabi" release. |
| 14:02.10 | *** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) || everyone please test server list cacheing, appears to work (current CVS) || BZFlag g2 "Wasabi" release. (dougheckaa) |
| 14:02.44 | dougheckaa | ~topic del 2 |
| 14:02.44 | *** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) || everyone please test server list cacheing, appears to work (current CVS) || BZFlag g2 "Wasabi" release. (dougheckaa) |
| 14:04.39 | *** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) || everyone please test server list cacheing, appears to work (current CVS) || BZFlag g2 "Wasabi" release. (dougheckaa) |
| 14:05.13 | *** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) || everyone please test server list cacheing, appears to work (current CVS) |
| 14:05.18 | dougheckaa | there we go |
| 14:07.58 | *** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || 1.7g2 is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) || everyone please test server list cacheing, appears to work (current CVS) || 1.7g2 "Wasabi" is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) (dougheckaa) |
| 14:07.58 | *** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || upgrade bzfs servers to CVS || everyone please test server list cacheing, appears to work (current CVS) || 1.7g2 "Wasabi" is coming RSN(viva la revolocion!) (dougheckaa) |
| 14:09.25 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 14:11.30 | creeperz | How do I get X-Chat to autoconnect to multiple channels? |
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| 14:12.34 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 14:12.42 | dougheckaa | hey TimRiker |
| 14:12.48 | creeperz | Hi, Tim |
| 14:13.10 | dougheckaa | how do you like the new name? |
| 14:13.10 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 14:14.45 | captain_proton | dougheckaa: did you just decide that on your own? :P |
| 14:14.56 | dougheckaa | hmm, yea |
| 14:15.17 | dougheckaa | I went to #debian and took a look at the list of people in there |
| 14:15.17 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 14:15.25 | captain_proton | hiya TimRiker |
| 14:15.59 | creeperz | There are 254 people in #Linux |
| 14:17.20 | larsl | captain_proton: You must have added quite a lot of patches yesterday. =) |
| 14:18.42 | creeperz | Geez |
| 14:18.54 | creeperz | Noone hasa sense of humor in #Linux :-/ |
| 14:19.07 | Chestal | hi |
| 14:19.08 | creeperz | They're all vegetables |
| 14:19.12 | creeperz | Ahh! |
| 14:21.09 | larsl | creeperz: Use ',' as a separator. |
| 14:21.31 | creeperz | Sounds like a plan |
| 14:21.55 | Chestal | woah, color console, will have to test this |
| 14:22.07 | larsl | It's nice. |
| 14:22.11 | dougheckaa | color? |
| 14:22.13 | dougheckaa | hows it work? |
| 14:22.16 | larsl | Although I turned off the blinking. =) |
| 14:22.39 | dougheckaa | can the servers have blinking text? :P |
| 14:23.31 | larsl | dougheckaa: No, the clients display kill messages and flag messages in color. |
| 14:23.39 | dougheckaa | ah, cool |
| 14:23.58 | creeperz | captain_proton added a crap load of patches? |
| 14:28.04 | larsl | TimRiker: You might need a newer automake. I couldn't get it to work with 1.4 (standard version on Mandrake 9.1). |
| 14:28.24 | larsl | But it worked with the latest automake (1.6 or 1.7). |
| 14:28.38 | captain_proton | hm, doesn't work with 1.4? i'll have to fix that |
| 14:28.44 | TimRiker | what's the reason for requiring the new version? |
| 14:29.09 | Chestal | just set my bzflag to use German locale, it's really funny :-) |
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| 14:29.17 | larsl | I think it's the fact that we put libraries in '../../lib'. Automake 1.4 didn't like that. |
| 14:29.25 | larsl | Might be some other things too. |
| 14:29.45 | TimRiker | Chestal: funny? as in incorrect? |
| 14:29.50 | creeperz | Hmm :-/ |
| 14:30.00 | creeperz | It only connected to this channel |
| 14:30.06 | creeperz | And not my second one |
| 14:30.33 | larsl | creeperz: You can't use spaces between the channel names, only ','. |
| 14:30.49 | creeperz | I think I did |
| 14:30.55 | larsl | creeperz: And I've only used it for XChat 2, if you have an older version it might work differently. |
| 14:31.01 | creeperz | Oh. Nope :-) |
| 14:31.06 | Chestal | TimRiker: not really, I just saw 'rogue' trabslated as 'Bösewicht', which seems a bit strange to me |
| 14:31.18 | larsl | ~x de en Bösewicht |
| 14:31.22 | *** part/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 14:31.33 | larsl | ~x en de Rogue |
| 14:31.33 | dougheckaa | ~x de en Böse wicht |
| 14:31.42 | dougheckaa | hah |
| 14:31.45 | Chestal | it's like 'bad guy', 'villain' |
| 14:31.50 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 14:32.14 | Chestal | also a bit old fashioned |
| 14:32.19 | captain_proton | larsl / TimRiker: do we really need to put libraries in ../../lib? |
| 14:32.27 | dougheckaa | like villain in english? |
| 14:32.34 | TimRiker | SceneRenderer.cxx:588: warning: value computed is not used |
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| 14:33.11 | TimRiker | captain_proton: I don't care... put them wherever automake/etc wants them. |
| 14:33.30 | creeperz | Woohoo! |
| 14:33.33 | creeperz | It worked :-) |
| 14:34.04 | Chestal | hmm, I see no colours, probably a dependency problem |
| 14:34.21 | larsl | If we want them in lib we can add a target to the toplevel Makefile.am that copies or links them there. |
| 14:34.28 | dougheckaa | ~bzflagcvs |
| 14:34.28 | | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 14:34.36 | dougheckaa | hey cool, it worked |
| 14:34.37 | dougheckaa | :) |
| 14:34.52 | dougheckaa | is that the correct one? |
| 14:35.01 | larsl | Looks correct. |
| 14:35.05 | dougheckaa | k |
| 14:35.13 | larsl | You'd need to login first though. |
| 14:35.19 | dougheckaa | yea,, |
| 14:35.42 | larsl | And you might want to add -z3. |
| 14:36.15 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 14:36.38 | captain_proton | TimRiker: did you ever figure out if it was possible to retag HEAD & v1_7 to be what we wanted? |
| 14:36.58 | Chestal | we don't have direct access to the repository on sf, do we? |
| 14:37.00 | dougheckaa | whats in HEAD? |
| 14:37.08 | larsl | HEAD = 1.8. |
| 14:37.20 | dougheckaa | hm |
| 14:37.24 | dougheckaa | still? hah |
| 14:37.27 | captain_proton | if we need direct access, we should file an sf support request with what we need them to do |
| 14:37.33 | TimRiker | captain_proton: not possible from what I can tell. I'll have to just checkin 1.7g2 as HEAD on top of 1.8 |
| 14:37.43 | TimRiker | all manual process, but I intend to do it. |
| 14:37.44 | captain_proton | ok |
| 14:37.44 | Chestal | proton: chmod +x misc/bzfquery.pl :-) |
| 14:37.46 | captain_proton | that works for me :) |
| 14:38.24 | TimRiker | Chestal: not really, I cna submit things for them to run, but not direct access. |
| 14:39.09 | Chestal | Tim: would be nice to finaklly have the +x flag for bzfquery.pl set |
| 14:39.16 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 14:39.21 | captain_proton | gnome pulled ahead: http://navi.picogui.org/cgi-bin/cia_stats.cgi |
| 14:39.43 | Chestal | what's this cia stuff and how do I use it for bzflag? and do I want to use it? |
| 14:39.54 | dougheckaa | you betting on it like a horse race? :) |
| 14:39.56 | captain_proton | Chestal: CIA announces CVS commits here in the channel |
| 14:40.09 | dougheckaa | oh, I thought CIA was a person |
| 14:40.12 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 14:40.16 | creeperz | :-) |
| 14:40.25 | dougheckaa | cia: help |
| 14:40.27 | captain_proton | and also in #commits :) |
| 14:40.34 | dougheckaa | interesting |
| 14:40.50 | Chestal | proton: hmm, how does it work? |
| 14:40.57 | dougheckaa | did scanline hack it up? |
| 14:41.05 | creeperz | Very |
| 14:41.09 | captain_proton | Chestal: there's a loginfo script in the CVS server for it that emails the bot, bot sticks it here |
| 14:41.42 | Chestal | uhm, and where does the loginfo script run? |
| 14:42.02 | captain_proton | on the cvs server - its in the CVSROOT module, just like syncmail (which emails bzflag-commits) |
| 14:42.24 | Chestal | ah, so this is supported by sourceforge? |
| 14:42.37 | creeperz | My precious |
| 14:42.46 | captain_proton | well the functionality is built-in to CVS, so i guess its "supported" |
| 14:43.00 | Chestal | hmm, interesting |
| 14:45.31 | Chestal | hmm |
| 14:45.37 | Chestal | color console looks a bit strange |
| 14:45.54 | Chestal | ah, it's supposed to blink |
| 14:45.59 | Chestal | thought the blinking was removed? |
| 14:46.04 | Chestal | doesn;t work with opaque console |
| 14:46.05 | captain_proton | blinking is turn-offable |
| 14:46.28 | captain_proton | should probably make the default to not blink |
| 14:46.56 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 14:47.11 | dougheckaa | hi bzghirl |
| 14:47.21 | bzgirl | hello |
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| 14:47.56 | Chestal | hi bzg |
| 14:48.03 | Chestal | hmm, so it prints players in team colour now |
| 14:48.06 | dougheckaa | so the CVS module is v1_7? |
| 14:48.10 | Chestal | and highlights peopel whi kill me? |
| 14:48.14 | captain_proton | dougheckaa: no |
| 14:48.18 | larsl | dougheckaa: The module is 'bzflag'. |
| 14:48.21 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 14:48.22 | TimRiker | Chestal: add the chmod to a Makefile. cvs does not reliably track +x |
| 14:48.26 | captain_proton | the branch is v1_7 |
| 14:48.30 | dougheckaa | aha |
| 14:48.49 | dougheckaa | still asking for a password.. lame guis |
| 14:48.57 | captain_proton | dougheckaa: try pressing enter |
| 14:49.06 | dougheckaa | nope |
| 14:49.35 | dougheckaa | its like double the amount of all of the last 3 months |
| 14:49.45 | Chestal | TimRiker: AFAIK it uses the +x when adding the file, but it's not possible to change it remotely after that |
| 14:50.06 | Chestal | proton: so, any other colouring besided killer highlight and player names? |
| 14:50.15 | Chestal | I think private messages should be highlighted |
| 14:50.19 | larsl | Chestal: Flag grabs and drops? |
| 14:50.21 | Chestal | harder to see them now |
| 14:50.30 | creeperz | Chestal: I agree |
| 14:50.46 | dougheckaa | there it goes |
| 14:50.57 | creeperz | And maybe do away with the hide/show flag on radar/window thing :-) |
| 14:51.48 | captain_proton | Chestal: one thing that i'm not sure of is that it does some special coloring on certain flags in the score list |
| 14:51.51 | TimRiker | ideas on what is causing the warning in SceneRenderer? |
| 14:52.04 | captain_proton | but i can live with that, since they made good choices for which flags to boldinate |
| 14:52.38 | larsl | TimRiker: Which row was it? I lost the scroll buffer when I rejoined. |
| 14:53.07 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 14:53.07 | TimRiker | SceneRenderer.cxx:588: warning: value computed is not used |
| 14:53.15 | captain_proton | i'm not getting warning in SceneRenderer |
| 14:53.24 | Chestal | I think I didn't get one either |
| 14:53.24 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.145) |
| 14:53.32 | larsl | Me neither. |
| 14:53.39 | dougheckaa | hey bryjen |
| 14:53.42 | TimRiker | gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-113) |
| 14:53.43 | dougheckaa | long time no see :P |
| 14:53.44 | captain_proton | in fact |
| 14:53.46 | creeperz | Neither did I |
| 14:53.54 | captain_proton | i don't see 'computed' anywhere in SceneRenderer.cxx |
| 14:53.57 | larsl | It just sets a member variable, so it sounds strange that it complains about it. |
| 14:53.58 | Chestal | IMHO victims should be highlighted as well, not only killers |
| 14:54.05 | dougheckaa | CVS, no errors or warnings! |
| 14:54.19 | captain_proton | Chestal: it doesn't highlight just any killer, just when you get killed |
| 14:54.40 | captain_proton | Chestal: i think trepan's idea was to make it easy to tell who you needed to go after next :) |
| 14:55.27 | captain_proton | TimRiker: what does your line 588 look like? |
| 14:55.35 | Chestal | proton: I know, and I think we shoudl hightlight the victim when I shot him, too |
| 14:55.46 | captain_proton | Chestal: ahh i see what you mean |
| 14:55.51 | captain_proton | should be fairly easy to do |
| 14:55.59 | TimRiker | SceneRenderer.cxx:866: warning: value computed is not used |
| 14:56.00 | TimRiker | SceneRenderer.cxx:900: warning: value computed is not used |
| 14:56.14 | creeperz | I am the victim of supremesisy and ummm un...fairness? |
| 14:56.26 | larsl | Same thing, it's when it calls enableLights(). |
| 14:56.38 | dougheckaa | sweet, I like the blinking stuff, it works in windows |
| 14:56.43 | captain_proton | TimRiker: hm, try changing 900 from: |
| 14:56.47 | captain_proton | err |
| 14:56.59 | captain_proton | hang on one minute |
| 14:57.12 | creeperz | I can't hold on much longer! |
| 14:57.18 | captain_proton | change 588 to: |
| 14:57.23 | captain_proton | int temp = index + reservedLights; |
| 14:57.23 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.25 | captain_proton | (just a test) |
| 14:58.02 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.42 | creeperz | ONly if everyday could of been as good as yesterday |
| 14:59.03 | creeperz | Halo and Magic: The Gathering for the majority of the day |
| 14:59.19 | captain_proton | TimRiker: can you try that hack? |
| 15:01.15 | captain_proton | probably asleep |
| 15:01.17 | dougheckaa | its saturday |
| 15:03.03 | dougheckaa | ~pi |
| 15:03.03 | | pi is, like, 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 15:03.10 | dougheckaa | lame thing |
| 15:03.14 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 15:03.24 | TimRiker | SceneRenderer.cxx:589: warning: value computed is not used |
| 15:03.24 | TimRiker | S |
| 15:03.31 | captain_proton | erf |
| 15:03.38 | dougheckaa | how do I figure out pi? 7/21? |
| 15:03.47 | captain_proton | what value is it computing? :P |
| 15:03.47 | Chestal | k, I have some complaints aobut the coloured console |
| 15:03.50 | Chestal | I know I can always turn it off |
| 15:03.54 | larsl | dougheckaa: You don't. It's irrational. |
| 15:04.04 | Chestal | in general, mesages typed by players should look different |
| 15:04.05 | dougheckaa | never mind that :P |
| 15:04.13 | Chestal | especially private ones should be highlighted |
| 15:04.33 | Chestal | right now, I cannot distinguish player messages from game mesages ata glance |
| 15:04.34 | captain_proton | Chestal: messages themselves are completely colored in the team color, so they are colored differently |
| 15:04.45 | Chestal | proton: but they don't stand out IMHO |
| 15:04.56 | Chestal | and whern it's a teammesage they begin with white |
| 15:04.59 | captain_proton | ok, the message text color can be changed to something hideous to stand out :) |
| 15:05.15 | Chestal | is yellow used at all now? |
| 15:05.22 | captain_proton | yellow is used for rogues |
| 15:05.26 | Chestal | ah,hmm |
| 15:06.24 | captain_proton | we could use cyan |
| 15:06.31 | captain_proton | maybe tone down the color a little bit first |
| 15:07.01 | captain_proton | cya |
| 15:07.24 | larsl | Yes, just make the game messages a little more grayish. |
| 15:07.43 | captain_proton | i meant tone down the cyan |
| 15:07.49 | Chestal | where are the colour codes inserted? |
| 15:07.50 | captain_proton | since right now that color is -really- loud |
| 15:08.16 | captain_proton | Chestal: in the code where the console messages are constructed - stuff you're looking for is in playing.cxx |
| 15:08.20 | Chestal | the serevr lsti cache onl ykicks in when there's a problem, right? |
| 15:08.26 | captain_proton | Chestal: right |
| 15:11.26 | captain_proton | Chestal: in your moles patch you split the options stuff into two side-by-side panes, right? |
| 15:11.51 | Chestal | uhm, which Moles patch? |
| 15:11.57 | captain_proton | the old gui one |
| 15:12.06 | Chestal | the old one by akira which is outdated because most of it already is in CVS? |
| 15:12.09 | Chestal | I don't remmeber |
| 15:12.17 | captain_proton | ah |
| 15:12.27 | captain_proton | looks like we need to do a split like that in current options page |
| 15:12.45 | captain_proton | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/overlap.gif |
| 15:13.55 | Chestal | your radar is too big :-) |
| 15:14.10 | captain_proton | that sussudio's radar :) |
| 15:14.16 | captain_proton | mine is nice and tiny |
| 15:14.43 | captain_proton | (you should know that i would never have tha audacity to make a screenshot in .gif format ;) |
| 15:19.08 | creeperz | Tim leaves and it seems the BZFlag world stops |
| 15:19.21 | captain_proton | well i'm gonna ride off to work, should show up there in about 30 minutes or so |
| 15:19.51 | creeperz | See yu then |
| 15:20.16 | creeperz | :-) |
| 15:20.56 | creeperz | If you compare Linux to Windows, Windows has nothing |
| 15:22.49 | creeperz | What is the extension for Perl files? |
| 15:23.01 | larsl | .pl |
| 15:23.06 | creeperz | Ok |
| 15:23.11 | larsl | For scripts. For modules it's .pm. |
| 15:24.28 | creeperz | Got it |
| 15:24.31 | larsl | Ooh, Mars Express is launching in ~2 hours. |
| 15:24.48 | creeperz | Mars Express? |
| 15:25.12 | creeperz | Ouch |
| 15:25.29 | creeperz | I ate those Pizzalicous Pringles too fast :-( |
| 15:25.30 | bryjen | didn't someone once suggest two message areas, one for "system" messages and one for chat ? |
| 15:26.37 | creeperz | Wait... |
| 15:26.56 | creeperz | I think I just said I liked rat crap :-/ |
| 15:28.12 | bryjen | larsl: how does one exit from bzadmin ? |
| 15:28.43 | creeperz | Type in a wrong password I think |
| 15:29.03 | larsl | bryjen: Ctrl-C. =) |
| 15:29.09 | creeperz | :-) |
| 15:29.10 | bryjen | creeperz: nope |
| 15:29.17 | larsl | I might add a /quit command later. |
| 15:29.25 | bryjen | duh. |
| 15:29.39 | creeperz | I don't even think I know what BZAdmin is |
| 15:29.49 | creeperz | On a desk? |
| 15:30.04 | creeperz | ~smack bryjen |
| 15:30.16 | creeperz | Oh shucky-darn |
| 15:31.06 | larsl | creeperz: It's a small text-based client for BZFlag admins that can send and receive messages from a BZFlag server. |
| 15:31.21 | creeperz | Never heard of :-) |
| 15:31.32 | creeperz | There a URL to it? |
| 15:31.49 | larsl | It's on the SourceForge patch tracker. |
| 15:31.54 | creeperz | Ah |
| 15:31.56 | larsl | (for BZFlag) |
| 15:32.06 | creeperz | I might get it when I get Windows |
| 15:32.08 | creeperz | Yes |
| 15:32.09 | larsl | And you need ncurses and the BZFlag source to build it. |
| 15:32.10 | creeperz | :-) |
| 15:32.20 | larsl | I don't think it works on Windows right now. |
| 15:32.23 | creeperz | ncurses?? |
| 15:32.30 | creeperz | Oh darn |
| 15:32.51 | larsl | Library for building neat text interfaces. |
| 15:33.24 | creeperz | Ah |
| 15:33.30 | bryjen | Text is good. |
| 15:34.51 | creeperz | bu bu...Momma saiz that tha text is da devil |
| 15:36.28 | bryjen | This is why it is good for administrators. BOFH. |
| 15:36.35 | creeperz | BOFH? |
| 15:37.32 | bryjen | B*st*ard Operator From Hell = evil systems administrator |
| 15:37.42 | bryjen | whoops |
| 15:37.47 | creeperz | HEh |
| 15:37.49 | creeperz | What? |
| 15:38.03 | creeperz | Oh |
| 15:38.07 | bryjen | didn't get the *'s in there right. Oh well |
| 15:38.11 | creeperz | :-) |
| 15:38.17 | creeperz | I noticed this just now |
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| 15:39.18 | creeperz | IF I were to put all of my Magic cards in protectors up-side-down they would all cost just 1 mana to get out :-) |
| 15:39.37 | Big_Barrel | hi bomber |
| 15:39.50 | creeperz | Welcome, Earthling |
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| 15:41.09 | creeperz | For a crapload of peeps, not much is happn'in' in #Linux |
| 15:42.31 | *** join/#bzflag rooter ([+WQfznvqv@webguy.cc.westga.edu) |
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| 15:48.20 | Chestal | I'm fiddlign with the colouring stuff a bit |
| 15:48.33 | Chestal | actually, adding victim highlight is not that straightforward |
| 15:48.33 | rooter | is that what you were testing... any luck? |
| 15:48.50 | Chestal | rooter: just trying to adjust it a little |
| 15:49.19 | rooter | i like the idea... highlight the tank you right clicked with |
| 15:54.55 | prot-work | Chestal: for blink, i think the easiest way is to test if the console is opaque and if so draw a black quad behind the text |
| 15:55.22 | prot-work | well, as much as the sleeves on a tshirt can be rolled up |
| 15:56.03 | prot-work | this system seems like such overkill for a little bzflag coding >:) |
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| 15:56.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 15:56.34 | TimRiker | any idea what changed to cause the SceneRenderer compile warning? |
| 15:58.18 | prot-work | were any of those functions changed over the weekend |
| 15:58.20 | prot-work | ? |
| 15:58.45 | prot-work | my guess is that the warning has been there for a while, its just that none of us use gcc 2.96 because its so broken |
| 15:59.35 | Chestal | prot: eh, black quad? the point is that with an opaque console, it does only get redrawn whenever soemthign changes |
| 15:59.48 | TimRiker | I build last week ok, and not now. |
| 15:59.50 | prot-work | Chestal: not a big quad, just under the blinky bit |
| 15:59.53 | TimRiker | er built. |
| 15:59.57 | TimRiker | so something changed. |
| 15:59.59 | prot-work | hmm |
| 16:04.13 | prot-work | looks like timebomb is hardcoded into the configure.ac as 3/13/1998 :) |
| 16:04.57 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@216.188.65.26) |
| 16:04.59 | bryjen | to stop people from taking bzflag back in time with them? |
| 16:05.05 | prot-work | must b e |
| 16:06.35 | Chestal | prot: what is this quad for, Idon't get it. TH eproblem is the refresh |
| 16:07.07 | prot-work | Chestal: with the blinking, it doesn't show up on opaque, right? |
| 16:07.08 | Chestal | Tim: did you use the autoconf stuff? |
| 16:07.36 | Chestal | prot: when the console is opaque, the console does only get redrawn whenever there is a change (new mesage,scrolling) |
| 16:07.43 | prot-work | ah true |
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| 16:08.33 | Chestal | I"m experimenting with cyan messages and more underlining right now |
| 16:11.47 | prot-work | hrmph |
| 16:11.56 | prot-work | cvs does not make it easy to do a dated diff on a branch |
| 16:12.30 | Chestal | not sure if this cyan looks good |
| 16:13.31 | Chestal | I also want to highlight private messages. Don't know if I should use the underline/blink preference for this,migh tbe a bit too much flashing? |
| 16:13.39 | Chestal | well, later, must get food now |
| 16:14.02 | patlabor221 | blink = evil |
| 16:14.27 | JBDiGriz | I agree, blinking is way too distracting when people are trying to shoot me! |
| 16:14.51 | patlabor221 | bold is usualy enough, or even italic, or a difrent font color. |
| 16:15.11 | patlabor221 | everquest and all the other "chaty" games just use a difrent color. |
| 16:20.34 | TimRiker | Chestal: no, as it does not work with autoconf 1.4 |
| 16:21.24 | bryjen | Eep. Did someone "fix" the email-on-the-scoreboard thingy ? |
| 16:21.30 | prot-work | bryjen: yeah |
| 16:21.34 | TimRiker | ok perhaps for things like "server disconnected" or "you just got banned" |
| 16:21.55 | prot-work | TimRiker: you mean you didn't like the version number blinking? :) |
| 16:22.24 | bryjen | I didn't have an email line in my .bzflag file, and it seems to have generated me one. username@workstation |
| 16:24.40 | bryjen | Or rather, it made a string to stick on the scoreboard. It didn't save it to the file when I exited. |
| 16:25.03 | larsl | -anonymous tells it not to generate an email. |
| 16:25.22 | larsl | Email address, I mean. |
| 16:25.30 | bryjen | Ah. Was that the default before, or was it just broke? |
| 16:25.37 | prot-work | bryjen: uhhuh, thats intended functionality :) |
| 16:25.59 | bryjen | prot-work: which one? |
| 16:26.06 | prot-work | both |
| 16:26.13 | bryjen | Of course :0 |
| 16:26.36 | TimRiker | it was broken for a while. |
| 16:27.40 | bryjen | The thing with it concocting an address on its own (and by default) is that it makes a bogus address. |
| 16:28.42 | prot-work | woo! automake 1.4 here |
| 16:29.13 | bryjen | Its got the hostname of my workstation after the @ -- which is only valid on the LAN here. |
| 16:30.03 | larsl | Yep. For me it generates 'll@gnorf.lars'. =) |
| 16:31.19 | bryjen | Who runs a publicly accessible mail server on their workstation? |
| 16:31.48 | bryjen | Please stand up and shout so that we may shoot you in the head. ;) |
| 16:31.50 | JBDiGriz | with the same internal name as external name? |
| 16:32.04 | larsl | Maybe it's not for email - maybe it's so people playing on a LAN (school, work etc) can see the user and the hostname. |
| 16:32.12 | larsl | I didn't write it, I just fixed it. =) |
| 16:32.35 | bryjen | so he says and quietly backs away..... |
| 16:33.26 | prot-work | oofa |
| 16:33.33 | prot-work | inst is such a crufty piece of software |
| 16:34.12 | bryjen | Maybe it should default to anonymous, and let you specifiy -email on the command line if you want it advertised |
| 16:34.58 | prot-work | larsl: you know you want to fixx automake 1.4 ;) |
| 16:35.18 | prot-work | (as the local autoconf expert) :) |
| 16:35.21 | larsl | Yes, I'd like that. =) |
| 16:35.31 | larsl | Unfortunately not until after thursday. |
| 16:35.33 | larsl | Exams. |
| 16:35.49 | prot-work | yay for requickstarting :) |
| 16:39.51 | bryjen | Hmm. I thought there already was an -email option. Meebee not. |
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| 16:43.34 | prot-work | did i mention how much i love inst? :) |
| 16:45.06 | creeperz | Hey, Pat |
| 16:45.16 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:46.05 | creeperz | It turns out that my dad isn't going to get me a new computer for about a year |
| 16:48.43 | prot-work | monitor #2 on this setup takes forever to warm up :P |
| 16:50.43 | ak|ra_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.57 | prot-work | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/pics/vizlab/hardware-tiny.jpg <-- overkill for bzflag work :) |
| 16:51.01 | creeperz | Did some guy get sued by a picture association for making a program that played DVD's for Linux? |
| 16:51.18 | ak|ra_ | prot-work: not really :) |
| 16:51.19 | creeperz | I caught some of the story on The Screensavers |
| 16:51.26 | prot-work | ak|ra_: =) |
| 16:51.31 | ak|ra_ | you could play against yourself and 4 others of yourself :) |
| 16:51.36 | ak|ra_ | at the same time |
| 16:51.46 | prot-work | the real beauty of this setup is behind me |
| 16:52.01 | ak|ra_ | u just need the other 4 heads more .. and of coz heads ... and hands |
| 16:52.27 | ak|ra_ | :) |
| 16:52.43 | ak|ra_ | i must say dont like to work at 2 monitors really somehow |
| 16:53.00 | prot-work | 2 monitors works when they're about the same size |
| 16:53.12 | prot-work | its hard when a window is stretched across both though |
| 16:53.45 | prot-work | amazing |
| 16:53.53 | prot-work | the autoconf stuff is Just Working |
| 16:53.56 | prot-work | with gcc even! |
| 16:54.07 | larsl | With automake 1.4? |
| 16:54.11 | ak|ra_ | yep .. and its unergonomic too :) if u pos them just centered: M|M .. then u look wonderfull direct at the middle of nothing |
| 16:54.14 | prot-work | no, i upgraded 1.7 |
| 16:54.32 | prot-work | but on irix! |
| 16:54.34 | ak|ra_ | of u center on of them -> you have to rotate the head to take a look at the other one .. |
| 16:54.37 | ak|ra_ | this sux :) |
| 16:54.42 | prot-work | meaning we get free builds on irix |
| 16:54.55 | prot-work | (MIPSpro compiler needs an expensive license to run) |
| 16:54.56 | larsl | Didn't that work earlier? |
| 16:54.57 | ak|ra_ | prot-work: does bzflag work with icc now? :) |
| 16:55.07 | prot-work | ak|ra_: icc being intel or ibm? :) |
| 16:55.59 | prot-work | larsl: before irix builds needed the MIPSpro compiler |
| 16:56.05 | larsl | Ah. |
| 16:56.19 | prot-work | mostly just because the build system required it |
| 16:56.30 | prot-work | nobody had made an irix-gcc config |
| 16:56.37 | patlabor221 | My home system is building again, and I will be fixing up the bugs in the adnim commands tonight, is this shomething I shoudl commit or make a patch? |
| 16:56.53 | prot-work | but i'm pleasantly surprised that it just autodetected gcc |
| 16:56.58 | prot-work | patlabor221: probably a patch |
| 16:57.10 | prot-work | let people on the "secondary" dev platform test :) |
| 16:57.10 | larsl | I thought that the configure.ac just checked which system it was running on and used one of the predefined targets? |
| 16:57.38 | patlabor221 | if you don't specify any files the server works excatly like it used to, so it would be totaly optional. |
| 16:57.39 | prot-work | larsl: apparently autoconf added some stuff to detect which compiler is used & stuff :) |
| 16:57.45 | larsl | Nice. |
| 16:57.57 | prot-work | hmm |
| 16:57.57 | larsl | I wonder how it works on Cygwin. |
| 16:58.11 | prot-work | dunno, probably won't work without the code changes in that cygwin patch |
| 16:58.25 | prot-work | i should write an input setup for bzflag to use trackd :D |
| 16:58.33 | prot-work | then i could drive with the pinch gloves |
| 16:58.49 | creeperz | The FCC just ruled that after 11:00 PM, public TV stations can show indecent programming? |
| 16:59.00 | patlabor221 | you could shoot with kung foo moves :) |
| 16:59.10 | prot-work | hee |
| 16:59.17 | larsl | creeperz: That could be illegal? Wow. |
| 16:59.54 | prot-work | eegh |
| 17:00.02 | prot-work | i shoulda done a make -j 8 |
| 17:00.08 | bryjen | Hmm.... Hand gestures for quickmessages.... |
| 17:00.12 | prot-work | these 400MHz chips are kinda slow on their own |
| 17:00.45 | patlabor221 | I'll need someones help making the patch when it comes time then, cus I've never goten it to work right :) |
| 17:00.45 | prot-work | er, 300MHz |
| 17:00.53 | larsl | I can imagine what gesture would generate the '****' messages. =) |
| 17:01.04 | prot-work | larsl: it doesn't motion track each finger |
| 17:01.24 | patlabor221 | should get it to work with a nintendo power glove :) |
| 17:01.29 | prot-work | it tracks the hand in 3space and sends button clicks when you pinch a finger with the thumb |
| 17:01.48 | prot-work | so you basically have two 4-button 3-axis mice :) |
| 17:01.49 | larsl | What do you use them for? |
| 17:01.57 | patlabor221 | grabing molecules |
| 17:02.29 | prot-work | larsl: depends on the software |
| 17:02.39 | bryjen | bragging at people on IRC ;P |
| 17:02.42 | prot-work | usually they're for manipulating visualizations for oil corps, etc |
| 17:03.38 | prot-work | larsl: thats pretty much what it is, except in passive stereo =D |
| 17:04.40 | larsl | Time to secure a webcast slot for the launch. |
| 17:08.26 | prot-work | hm, didn't link with Xlib or the audio lib |
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| 17:15.37 | prot-work | whoops :) |
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| 17:27.14 | prot-work | why? |
| 17:27.53 | patlabor221 | bios in this one is "funky" |
| 17:27.59 | patlabor221 | randomly restarts |
| 17:28.20 | patlabor221 | I just don't think they were made to run DDR |
| 17:29.02 | patlabor221 | +q sense twiching |
| 17:29.10 | prot-work | nope, they were made to run rambus |
| 17:29.14 | bryjen | Might that be more related the the mobo chipset? |
| 17:29.22 | patlabor221 | it probably is |
| 17:29.34 | patlabor221 | I just never have these problems on AMD XPs |
| 17:29.43 | patlabor221 | I made some changes, it should help |
| 17:29.51 | prot-work | running DDR on a p4 is like breaking both your knees and then trying to run a marathon |
| 17:30.00 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:30.05 | bryjen | which would of course be using different support chips |
| 17:30.07 | patlabor221 | but PC1066 is spensice |
| 17:30.40 | patlabor221 | had the bios set to time ram by spd, but I have mixed 2700 and 2100, so it may have been confiused, I forced it all to 133 |
| 17:30.52 | patlabor221 | since that's what the cpu runs at anyway |
| 17:31.13 | prot-work | even pc600 rdram will run a lot faster than ddr |
| 17:31.23 | patlabor221 | this mobo don't take it |
| 17:31.28 | patlabor221 | and it's not like I can change it |
| 17:31.31 | patlabor221 | it's the work machine |
| 17:32.56 | prot-work | the stomach, it hungers |
| 17:33.44 | patlabor221 | I mean when PC2700 is 1/5th the price of rambuss 1066 |
| 17:34.15 | bryjen | Hmmm. I've got PC2100 DDR in this P4 2.4GHz |
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| 17:34.38 | patlabor221 | I have the 2100/2700 mix in this 2.53 gig |
| 17:35.25 | bryjen | Intel chipset - not sure what # |
| 17:35.33 | patlabor221 | I'm thinkin about puting a 2600 (333) in my home meachine, instead of the 1800+ |
| 17:36.25 | bryjen | Ah Intel 845G |
| 17:37.01 | patlabor221 | I think this is a via chipset |
| 17:37.09 | patlabor221 | I know it's an MSI board |
| 17:37.19 | patlabor221 | with a fabilion USB ports |
| 17:37.27 | bryjen | We've got several ~2G P4s like this. Not problems (yet) |
| 17:38.05 | prot-work | fabillion? |
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| 17:38.26 | bryjen | Isn't that what comes after gazillion ;) |
| 17:38.27 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:38.39 | patlabor221 | and it has bluetooth on board :) |
| 17:38.51 | patlabor221 | says it can work as a "transitive node" |
| 17:38.54 | patlabor221 | what ever that means |
| 17:39.07 | patlabor221 | realy it's got like 10 USb ports on board |
| 17:39.18 | patlabor221 | then I get 2 on the keyboard too |
| 17:39.22 | prot-work | i think that means it can act like either a bluetooth host or device |
| 17:39.36 | prot-work | but don't quote me on that |
| 17:39.41 | patlabor221 | I don't know, I turned it off so I get another USB port |
| 17:39.45 | prot-work | COMPILE FASTER |
| 17:39.52 | prot-work | *ahem* |
| 17:40.36 | bryjen | make realquick |
| 17:40.57 | prot-work | ./configure --correctly --for-great-justice |
| 17:42.23 | dougheckaa | lol |
| 17:43.16 | bryjen | main.c:999 undefined reference to yourbase -- |
| 17:43.45 | prot-work | :) |
| 17:44.09 | prot-work | this ibook looks so tiny next to the 23" monitor :) |
| 17:46.36 | prot-work | geez |
| 17:46.44 | prot-work | bzflag is still at 7 commits |
| 17:46.49 | prot-work | gnome is already at 113 :P |
| 17:47.11 | prot-work | heck, even E has more activity :) |
| 17:47.22 | prot-work | and E17 is vaporware |
| 17:47.27 | bryjen | as in 7 today? |
| 17:47.34 | prot-work | as in 7 since CIA went up |
| 17:47.42 | prot-work | only 1 today |
| 17:54.49 | prot-work | hehe |
| 17:55.20 | patlabor221 | would there be any great outrage for some higher res textures? |
| 17:55.45 | patlabor221 | maybe keep the old ones in an "extras" folder for those who run on 486s |
| 17:56.28 | patlabor221 | would make g2 look a bit better |
| 17:56.46 | bryjen | only from the peons with cheesy video cards. Let them eat pixels! ;) |
| 17:57.08 | prot-work | i have no complaint with higher res textures so long as the textures are just higher quality (ie same bricks, etc) |
| 17:57.14 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:57.24 | patlabor221 | I'll redraw the existing textures at a higher res |
| 17:57.30 | bryjen | Did the fall-through-platforms at low FPS bug get squashed? |
| 17:57.48 | prot-work | bryjen: its not -really- a bug, just a misfeature |
| 17:58.02 | prot-work | last time someone tried to fix it they caused superjump |
| 17:58.31 | bryjen | Either or. Just wondering about consequences of making the graphics more complex... |
| 17:58.40 | prot-work | hmm |
| 17:58.54 | prot-work | patlabor221: you oughta set it up to LOD the textures based on the detail settings |
| 17:59.54 | prot-work | but it occurs to me |
| 17:59.59 | prot-work | that the admin patch is more urgent |
| 18:00.09 | prot-work | because that actually requires people to test it |
| 18:01.14 | larsl | Would bigger textures slow down a GeForce2 MX? |
| 18:01.22 | prot-work | larsl: can't see why it would |
| 18:01.30 | larsl | Then it's OK with me. =) |
| 18:01.33 | bryjen | SF doing maintenance in the middle of the day?!? |
| 18:01.35 | prot-work | gf2 has a good fillrate & sufficient video memory |
| 18:02.03 | bryjen | Ooops, its back now. N/M |
| 18:02.38 | prot-work | whoa |
| 18:02.39 | prot-work | bzflag linked |
| 18:02.45 | prot-work | i wonder if it runs |
| 18:04.34 | prot-work | OMG |
| 18:04.45 | patlabor221 | it would realy only slow down software |
| 18:04.49 | patlabor221 | and problably not much |
| 18:05.18 | patlabor221 | cap, I would hook it up to do a LOD, if texture loading wasn't "FUNKED UP" |
| 18:08.37 | prot-work | oh man that makes me happy |
| 18:08.43 | prot-work | gcc build on irix =) |
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| 18:11.21 | doughecka | greetings |
| 18:11.32 | prot-work | thank god for peer |
| 18:11.49 | bryjen | ooo |
| 18:13.24 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: gcc build on irix, wahoo! |
| 18:15.40 | Chestal | with SGI compiler? |
| 18:15.52 | prot-work | no, gcc |
| 18:15.58 | prot-work | i don't have a license for MIPSpro |
| 18:16.06 | Chestal | oh, that works? Did you install your own GL libs? |
| 18:16.10 | prot-work | nope |
| 18:16.12 | Chestal | or didn't you try to run it? ;-) |
| 18:16.25 | prot-work | it links fine with SGI's Xlib, audiolib, GL |
| 18:16.26 | patlabor221 | cap would it be horible if the software people that run with textures on slow machines with low mem had to manualy go grab the old textures? |
| 18:16.38 | prot-work | and runs fine |
| 18:16.49 | patlabor221 | aka "a small group" :) |
| 18:17.34 | prot-work | Chestal: gnu binutils on irix doesn't yet have ld, so it uses the irix ld32 |
| 18:18.06 | Chestal | ok, I made some changes to the colouring |
| 18:18.14 | Chestal | guess I'll just commit them, then you can complain :-) |
| 18:18.24 | prot-work | fine by me |
| 18:18.35 | prot-work | i'd rather see it get into cvs and then torn apart than just sit in the patches tracker |
| 18:18.58 | Chestal | I modified a config file locally, but don't want it to ever be comitted. How can I achieve that? |
| 18:19.11 | prot-work | just commit the files you want? |
| 18:19.27 | prot-work | or you can pull a clean copy of that file down from the repository with cvs up -C |
| 18:19.59 | Chestal | 1) I might forget about it and jsut do a cvs commit without specifyign files 2) I want to keep that fiel changed here |
| 18:20.04 | Chestal | I'm sure I can set some flag or something |
| 18:20.16 | prot-work | perhaps, i'm not too hot on all of cvs' intricacies |
| 18:23.37 | prot-work | Chestal: which file? |
| 18:25.19 | Chestal | configs/config-linux |
| 18:25.24 | prot-work | ah |
| 18:25.25 | Chestal | hardwired it to g+-2.95 here |
| 18:25.53 | ak|ra_ | evil |
| 18:26.37 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: Update "allowed C++ features" section |
| 18:27.20 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: Keeping the changelog current... |
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| 18:33.00 | [dmp] | Chestal: did ducati just die? |
| 18:33.21 | bzgirl | i cant conect to it |
| 18:34.10 | [dmp] | hmm Guess Im gonna do somethiing else :) |
| 18:34.20 | ak|ra | hi bzgirl |
| 18:34.28 | bzgirl | hello ak|ra |
| 18:36.39 | larsl | We can use templates now? Nice. |
| 18:37.23 | prot-work | well i figured that we use the STL a bunch |
| 18:37.30 | prot-work | and 1.8 uses templates |
| 18:37.40 | ak|ra | templates for what? |
| 18:37.44 | prot-work | just historically templates had bad support |
| 18:38.13 | prot-work | ak|ra: bzflag |
| 18:38.20 | ak|ra | templates for what? |
| 18:38.32 | ak|ra | bzflag was clear .. but for what technical aspects |
| 18:38.40 | prot-work | whatever they're needed for |
| 18:39.01 | larsl | It would be nice to clean up the command line parsing in bzflag/bzfs a bit. =) |
| 18:39.18 | ak|ra | larsl: commandline parsing -> clo++ :) |
| 18:39.35 | larsl | clo++? |
| 18:39.39 | ak|ra | search for it |
| 18:40.05 | ak|ra | you write an xml file and could generate the commandline parser (stl-based) and the manpage in one run |
| 18:40.27 | larsl | Uh, and let someone else hack all the fun stuff? =) |
| 18:40.47 | prot-work | hehe |
| 18:40.51 | ak|ra | commparsing is braindeadstuff :) |
| 18:41.26 | ak|ra | i am still thinking about the fps-breakin when enabled-shadows and close tanks here |
| 18:41.33 | ak|ra | prot-work: dont do it |
| 18:48.19 | doughecka | lol |
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| 18:55.42 | creeperz | he |
| 18:55.44 | prot-work | come on guys, bzflag is lagging behind on the commits |
| 18:56.43 | doughecka | get CIA to say something every 15 min :P |
| 18:58.05 | larsl | After g2 I'd like to try to move non-GUI code from src/bzflag that can be used by bzadmin or standalone bots into a new static library, what do you people think about that? Is it a good idea? |
| 18:58.27 | prot-work | i like that idea |
| 19:00.33 | larsl | I need to go study now. |
| 19:01.32 | ak|ra | static lib -> could perhaps conflict with some template-foo |
| 19:01.44 | ak|ra | but anyways its a good idea |
| 19:01.49 | prot-work | ak|ra: i don't think so... |
| 19:01.57 | prot-work | dynamic libs on windows have problems with template-foo |
| 19:02.16 | ak|ra | linux too in my experience |
| 19:02.39 | prot-work | possible |
| 19:02.49 | prot-work | but with libstdc++6 its pretty good at name mangling |
| 19:02.55 | ak|ra | so it would be more a big header :) |
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| 19:03.00 | fiberchunks | lo all |
| 19:03.40 | ak|ra | prot-work: i dont see a speciel need for templates at the moment .. generic programming isnt a subject for bzflag .. but i am not that deep in the code as you or others |
| 19:04.19 | prot-work | ak|ra: well, the issue is that its not forbidden anymore |
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| 19:04.49 | ak|ra | not forbidden doesnt mean its necassary ... do you see the need? |
| 19:05.05 | ak|ra | ~trans |
| 19:05.18 | ak|ra | how does trans works? |
| 19:05.46 | prot-work | ~x de en hackbratenabshussrampe |
| 19:06.00 | prot-work | doesn't work without all the special chars |
| 19:06.20 | prot-work | ak|ra: the need might pop up somewhere - i think bzdb in 1.8 used templates a bit, etc |
| 19:06.51 | prot-work | ak|ra: i'm not saying that people should seek out places to use them, just that if they will help solve the problem they should be used |
| 19:06.52 | ak|ra | woha |
| 19:06.59 | ak|ra | prot-work: where do you got this word from? |
| 19:07.09 | ak|ra | ~x de en notwendig |
| 19:07.21 | prot-work | ak|ra: afaict, its the closest translation of "meatloaf launcher" there is |
| 19:07.23 | ak|ra | ah, thats the corecct word :) |
| 19:07.33 | ak|ra | muhhhahr |
| 19:07.37 | ak|ra | thats a nice translation |
| 19:07.58 | prot-work | yep |
| 19:08.06 | prot-work | german is cool because it has one word that means meatloaf launcher |
| 19:08.37 | prot-work | not silly like english needing two separate words for it |
| 19:08.39 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:09.16 | prot-work | lunchtime! |
| 19:12.52 | ak|ra | prot-work: some think english is pretty easy and thats the success |
| 19:13.08 | ak|ra | a lot of words for things in english are builded very simple |
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| 19:13.32 | ak|ra | in german (or other languages) one have a special word for it. |
| 19:13.43 | ak|ra | i think in english in former days too but it got lost somehow |
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| 19:25.26 | ak|ra | doughecka: really? |
| 19:25.55 | fiberchunks | any of you linux users know how to make hdparm settings static across boots? |
| 19:26.09 | ak|ra | write a script |
| 19:26.14 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:26.14 | ak|ra | what distro? |
| 19:26.19 | fiberchunks | gentoo |
| 19:26.22 | ak|ra | doughecka: where are you from |
| 19:26.23 | doughecka | I have the books and cds |
| 19:26.24 | fiberchunks | there must be a better way :) |
| 19:26.28 | doughecka | kentucky :P |
| 19:26.30 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: edit /etc/conf.d/hdparm |
| 19:26.35 | fiberchunks | thk |
| 19:26.37 | fiberchunks | you |
| 19:26.44 | ak|ra | doughecka: ah, u want to learn the language of the enemy :) |
| 19:26.50 | doughecka | eh? |
| 19:26.56 | ak|ra | the evil germans :) |
| 19:26.59 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:27.12 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: and dont forget rc-update add hdparm boot |
| 19:27.30 | fiberchunks | yup |
| 19:27.41 | ak|ra | has what? |
| 19:27.52 | doughecka | both a german car, and german food |
| 19:28.10 | ak|ra | ah, what car? |
| 19:28.13 | doughecka | 2 german cars for that matter |
| 19:28.21 | doughecka | VW type 3 |
| 19:28.23 | ak|ra | what food? |
| 19:28.32 | ak|ra | vw type3 is what? a beetle? |
| 19:28.34 | doughecka | bug = type 1 bus = type 2, etc |
| 19:28.54 | ak|ra | whats type 3? here we have "real" names :) |
| 19:29.09 | doughecka | there is 3 type 3 models |
| 19:29.20 | ak|ra | 3 models from vw? |
| 19:29.22 | doughecka | fastback, square back, and notchback |
| 19:29.22 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:29.38 | ak|ra | *confused* |
| 19:29.41 | ak|ra | show me a picture |
| 19:29.43 | fiberchunks | ak|ra: i assume that disc0 is /dev/hda, disc1 is /dev/hdb, etc? |
| 19:29.51 | doughecka | yea, looking for one |
| 19:30.07 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: right |
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| 19:31.24 | doughecka | theres an photo that has all 3 models.. |
| 19:31.43 | ak|ra | is it a bus, a small one or a middleclass something? |
| 19:31.52 | ak|ra | diesel or .. the other stuff .. |
| 19:31.55 | doughecka | small |
| 19:32.00 | ak|ra | ~x de en benzin |
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| 19:32.11 | ak|ra | gasoline |
| 19:32.12 | ak|ra | :) |
| 19:32.13 | doughecka | same engine as all the older VWs... air cooled |
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| 19:32.16 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:32.19 | fiberchunks | hrm, how can i tell if -X66 will be safe for my drives? |
| 19:32.22 | patlabor221 | there we go |
| 19:32.38 | Chestal | grpf, power outage at the univeristy |
| 19:32.41 | Chestal | had to leave |
| 19:32.49 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: u have to know what your cable is able to do |
| 19:32.59 | ak|ra | Chestal: :) |
| 19:33.07 | fiberchunks | it's an 80 pin cond. |
| 19:33.10 | doughecka | ak|ra: its like a bug, as in how its built, not like the newer ones |
| 19:33.21 | Chestal | was just going to commin my changes, oh well |
| 19:33.21 | ak|ra | doughecka: how old? |
| 19:33.36 | ak|ra | Chestal: aergerlich |
| 19:33.39 | ak|ra | hi patty |
| 19:34.01 | doughecka | 1969 |
| 19:34.05 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 19:34.48 | ak|ra | such an old car? :) |
| 19:35.20 | ak|ra | doughecka: http://www.vwtype3.org/ |
| 19:35.34 | doughecka | yea, I am on that mailing list |
| 19:35.35 | doughecka | :) |
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| 19:36.06 | ak|ra | doughecka: pretty cool |
| 19:36.18 | doughecka | aha, http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/8798.jpg |
| 19:36.35 | doughecka | thats the fastback, and notchback, the squareback is a stationwagon |
| 19:36.37 | ak|ra | muhahr .. nice cars |
| 19:36.49 | doughecka | aircooled :P |
| 19:36.53 | ak|ra | never know these cars :) |
| 19:36.55 | doughecka | no coolent |
| 19:37.33 | ak|ra | and what german food do you eat? |
| 19:37.35 | doughecka | popular in some places |
| 19:38.09 | doughecka | hrm, umm, I like the bread, with mustard and meat, its open faced |
| 19:38.33 | ak|ra | "open faced" means what? |
| 19:38.35 | doughecka | and aphelsoftsorley? |
| 19:38.50 | doughecka | like, its like a sandwitch, but with one piece of break |
| 19:38.54 | ak|ra | the bread -> u got real german bread there? how .. a german .. baecker |
| 19:38.58 | ak|ra | ~x de en baecker |
| 19:39.03 | doughecka | bread |
| 19:39.05 | ak|ra | baker |
| 19:39.06 | ak|ra | :)) |
| 19:39.14 | doughecka | nah :) |
| 19:39.29 | doughecka | just some german taste/lookalike :) |
| 19:39.46 | ak|ra | ah, "open face" :) muhar .. thats a nice word :)) |
| 19:39.54 | ak|ra | or better description |
| 19:39.55 | doughecka | ew, those photos... thats a very old car :) mine is better |
| 19:39.57 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:40.07 | doughecka | engrish is wonderfull sometimes :P |
| 19:40.22 | ak|ra | thats what i meant some minutes ago with "english sometimes builds new stuff just from the description of what is" :)) |
| 19:40.22 | patlabor221 | cap, how about changing the startup logo to be the same as the logo on the web page? |
| 19:40.40 | doughecka | like, woof, bark :) |
| 19:40.46 | doughecka | etc |
| 19:40.54 | ak|ra | patlabor221: prot is a lunchtime at the mom |
| 19:40.58 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 19:41.14 | ak|ra | open face .. muhhar :) thats real cool |
| 19:41.14 | patlabor221 | then I shall take it as a "sure that sounds good " :) |
| 19:41.16 | doughecka | ak|ra: much better http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/4756.jpg shows all angles |
| 19:41.21 | ak|ra | patlabor221: :)) |
| 19:41.23 | doughecka | ak|ra: lo |
| 19:41.24 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:41.39 | ak|ra | doughecka: :) |
| 19:42.19 | doughecka | I know an american in germany.. he speaks so much german that he now puts german words inplace of english |
| 19:42.30 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:42.45 | ak|ra | doughecka: yeah, we normally eat the bread open faced. but sometime we made "sandwiches" .. but its not whitebread and then cut into 2 triangles but instead of the "real" bread and then just cut in the middle |
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| 19:43.00 | doughecka | cool |
| 19:43.13 | ak|ra | thats than closed face too :) |
| 19:43.25 | doughecka | you know a apple cider mixed with carbinated water? |
| 19:43.31 | doughecka | drive |
| 19:43.33 | doughecka | drink |
| 19:43.45 | JBDiGriz | Don't drink and drive |
| 19:43.53 | doughecka | exactly |
| 19:43.57 | ak|ra | the word for that is "schnitte" .. which has sometimes the same meaning as .. "chick" -> girl ... |
| 19:44.07 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:44.28 | fiberchunks | ak|ra: if i can't remember where on the physical cable my 2 cdroms are - how can i tell which one is /dev/hdc, and/or /dev/hdd? |
| 19:45.01 | bryjen | eject /dev/hdc and see which one opens |
| 19:45.11 | doughecka | hehe |
| 19:45.17 | ak|ra | doughecka: http://www.butterbrot.de/ -> muhhar .. a site for our "sandwiches" :))) |
| 19:45.22 | fiberchunks | duh -- good call :) |
| 19:45.30 | doughecka | Captain obviose strikes again :P |
| 19:45.40 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: put a datacd into one of them and try to mount it |
| 19:45.45 | doughecka | hah, cool |
| 19:45.55 | doughecka | ak|ra: do you know about hecking? |
| 19:46.00 | doughecka | ~x de en hecking |
| 19:46.04 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: or look to which device /dev/hdc and hdd are pointing |
| 19:46.22 | fiberchunks | no such device (i'm using devfs |
| 19:46.32 | bryjen | ewwwww |
| 19:46.42 | fiberchunks | just not familiar with how devfs labels things |
| 19:46.53 | fiberchunks | bryjen: gentoo requires it, apparently :\ |
| 19:47.25 | bryjen | I haven't messed with it myself. Just a speculative ewww |
| 19:47.40 | ak|ra | doughecka: http://www.butterbrot.de/butterbrot/butterbrotgalerie1.html muhhar |
| 19:47.42 | fiberchunks | it's nice, just not what i'm used to :) |
| 19:47.55 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: no such device while looking what? |
| 19:48.10 | fiberchunks | ls -l /dev/hdc : no such device |
| 19:48.14 | doughecka | and again I relize germans are slightly crazy :P |
| 19:48.20 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: then use /dev/cdroms :) |
| 19:48.41 | ak|ra | i couldnt live without that kind of bread, really |
| 19:48.51 | doughecka | fresh |
| 19:48.54 | doughecka | :) |
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| 19:48.58 | ak|ra | the whitebread stuff u eat is nothing for my taste |
| 19:49.05 | *** part/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 19:49.07 | doughecka | I hear the stores have dozans of kinds of meats |
| 19:49.14 | doughecka | I dont eat whitebread.. icky |
| 19:49.29 | bryjen | Maybe some clues in /proc/ide |
| 19:49.35 | doughecka | wholewheat/nut bread :) |
| 19:49.43 | ak|ra | ~x de en sauerteig |
| 19:49.52 | doughecka | of course we make our own bread also :) |
| 19:50.15 | fiberchunks | goody, that's all taken care of now -- thanks much you guys :) |
| 19:50.47 | ak|ra | leaven or sourdough .. thats the main important ingredience of our bread .. |
| 19:51.17 | ak|ra | thats make it "lusty" if thats the right word |
| 19:51.32 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:51.39 | doughecka | yeast bread |
| 19:51.49 | doughecka | ~x en de yeast |
| 19:52.07 | JBDiGriz | San Francisco is known for it's Sourdough. Of course, the original starter dough was brought in by German immigrants. |
| 19:52.20 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:52.21 | ak|ra | nothing worse than to bite into a nice cheese on a pure (nontoasted) whitebread :) |
| 19:52.31 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:52.36 | ak|ra | JBDiGriz: really? cool |
| 19:52.36 | doughecka | sticks to ur mouth |
| 19:53.04 | ak|ra | perhaps i have to visit us :) if i can eat "real" stuff :)) |
| 19:53.28 | JBDiGriz | It's changed over the past two hundred years, but I like it! |
| 19:53.38 | ak|ra | doughecka: i dont like the yeast beer they like in munich so much |
| 19:54.07 | ak|ra | JBDiGriz: do you know the the difference in the taste? in comp. with a "native" bread from here? |
| 19:54.11 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:54.16 | doughecka | I dont like beer. :P |
| 19:54.24 | doughecka | too young anyway ;) |
| 19:54.27 | ak|ra | i like desparodos much :) |
| 19:54.37 | doughecka | ~x es en desparodos |
| 19:54.39 | JBDiGriz | I can't tell the difference, but I'm not the expert! |
| 19:54.47 | ak|ra | too young is here no matter :)) we start early and stop early |
| 19:54.52 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:55.01 | ak|ra | doughecka: :) |
| 19:55.21 | JBDiGriz | Good German Ale, and English Bitters, that's the good stuff! |
| 19:55.31 | ak|ra | doughecka: something "stupid" like spring break and THAT excessive and stupid usage of alc i never seen before |
| 19:55.37 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:56.11 | patlabor221 | how's this for a high res teleporter texture? http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/cautioncopy.png |
| 19:56.22 | doughecka | nice |
| 19:56.30 | doughecka | very real looking :) |
| 19:56.40 | patlabor221 | just dirtyer |
| 19:56.47 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:57.01 | ak|ra | i think its because of the "high" age if u are allowed to use drugs .. then one tends to overdraw a lot |
| 19:57.21 | doughecka | hmm, yah |
| 19:57.37 | ak|ra | patlabor221: cant imagine how it looks like in real |
| 19:57.37 | larsl_not_here | Never was a big fan though. |
| 19:57.59 | doughecka | mym rule is never to drink something that cars run off of |
| 19:58.02 | ak|ra | larsl_not_here: it all depends on why and how much i think :) |
| 19:58.18 | patlabor221 | well true, I would imagine that the stripes are painted on metal |
| 19:58.24 | larsl_not_here | Yeah, but I don't even like the taste. |
| 19:58.25 | ak|ra | doughecka: u never drink water? |
| 19:58.42 | doughecka | my car doesnt have water in it :P |
| 19:58.43 | ak|ra | larsl_not_here: desperados tastes more like limonade than like beer |
| 19:58.46 | doughecka | its air cooooled |
| 19:58.59 | larsl_not_here | So why not drink lemonade instead? =) |
| 19:59.02 | ak|ra | doughecka: -> cooled yes, but whats with the ne o2/h - technology |
| 19:59.29 | doughecka | hrm |
| 19:59.39 | ak|ra | larsl_not_here: because the desperados works a bit better with its 5.9% and the little tequilla inside |
| 19:59.41 | doughecka | its runs off hydrojen :P thats diferent |
| 20:01.29 | *** join/#bzflag greg1 (~admin@greghub.net1.nerim.net) |
| 20:01.30 | greg1 | Hi |
| 20:01.37 | doughecka | Hi |
| 20:01.58 | greg1 | Hi doug |
| 20:02.10 | ak|ra | i find it sometimes very strange that one can buy and use a gun with ... 16? and is not allowed to drink a beer and marry a girl till 21? .. very strang |
| 20:02.17 | ak|ra | e |
| 20:02.28 | doughecka | smart |
| 20:02.29 | doughecka | :P |
| 20:02.58 | fiberchunks | ak|ra: you're not the only one :\ |
| 20:03.24 | fiberchunks | but you have to be 21 to legally own a handgun (or have a carry permit, anyway) in the states |
| 20:03.34 | ak|ra | its hard to f... a girl and kill someone at the same time .. isnt it? :) |
| 20:03.35 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/boxwallcopy.png |
| 20:03.45 | doughecka | lol |
| 20:03.54 | ak|ra | patlabor221: looks good |
| 20:04.07 | fiberchunks | however, you can join the military and kill people with nasty guns @ 18 (or less, if you lie) -- but you still can't quaff a pint :\ |
| 20:04.08 | doughecka | patlabor221: nice, I cant see how dark it tis, since my gamma is screwed up |
| 20:04.23 | patlabor221 | fix it |
| 20:04.41 | fiberchunks | very pretty |
| 20:04.43 | ak|ra | xgamme |
| 20:04.44 | ak|ra | xgamma |
| 20:04.51 | doughecka | winders |
| 20:04.53 | doughecka | no such luck |
| 20:04.54 | doughecka | :P |
| 20:04.56 | ak|ra | :) |
| 20:05.05 | doughecka | I have to reboot, and that takes too long |
| 20:05.41 | greg1 | excuse me to interrupt |
| 20:05.49 | greg1 | but is ducati down ? |
| 20:05.56 | doughecka | ~ducati6 |
| 20:05.57 | Noodlebot | see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 20:06.25 | doughecka | I suppose it is |
| 20:06.47 | greg1 | I'll remember that =) |
| 20:06.58 | greg1 | thx |
| 20:07.17 | fiberchunks | mebbe this is a stupid idea, but what about a little app that checks the server status every X minutes, and if it doesn't respond, lights it back off again? |
| 20:07.38 | doughecka | noodleman had something like that |
| 20:07.42 | doughecka | it worked great |
| 20:07.58 | doughecka | it was an app that was built for doing it |
| 20:08.22 | fiberchunks | hrm -- seems like a good idea if you can't be at your box 24/7 and you want your server to be up all the time |
| 20:08.31 | ak|ra | fiberchunks: i write a little gkrellm plugin for exactly that purpose at the moment |
| 20:08.42 | fiberchunks | gkrellm -- cool :) |
| 20:08.53 | fiberchunks | is the poll time configurable? |
| 20:08.54 | ak|ra | display status of different servers and current score and players and stuff like that |
| 20:09.00 | greg1 | wow :) |
| 20:09.04 | ak|ra | i think i could make it so :) |
| 20:09.08 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:09.23 | greg1 | don't forget to freshmat that |
| 20:09.24 | ak|ra | i got the bzflagsrc/misc/bzfquery.pl stuff translated to c |
| 20:09.39 | doughecka | interesting |
| 20:10.00 | ak|ra | and now i am playing around a bit with the chartdisplay to figure out how to draw red/green/blue etc :) |
| 20:10.14 | doughecka | hehehe |
| 20:10.19 | fiberchunks | nice -- if i run a server again, i will have to grab that |
| 20:10.22 | doughecka | gnome is busy today |
| 20:10.28 | ak|ra | there are 2 other projs ... gkrellm-imonc.sf.net and gkrellm-mld.sf.net :)) |
| 20:10.35 | doughecka | 141 commits today :) |
| 20:12.29 | doughecka | CVS broken? |
| 20:12.34 | prot-work | huh |
| 20:12.50 | prot-work | gnome isn't particularly busy today |
| 20:12.53 | doughecka | hmm, it was |
| 20:13.01 | doughecka | now it workin.. :) |
| 20:13.17 | doughecka | CIA says it has 141 today |
| 20:13.29 | prot-work | yeah, so? |
| 20:13.45 | prot-work | thats not really busy for gnome, considering how many modules/hackers they've got |
| 20:14.01 | doughecka | compared to everything else |
| 20:14.02 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:16.54 | patlabor221 | cap: what about changing the logo in G2 to mathc the website? |
| 20:17.11 | ak|ra | patlabor221: fine idea :) |
| 20:17.26 | ak|ra | ah, hes back :))) |
| 20:18.58 | doughecka | patlabor221: what CVSROOT do you use in tortiose? |
| 20:19.09 | doughecka | mine keeps barfing |
| 20:19.11 | ak|ra | so, me loggs of irc now |
| 20:19.17 | doughecka | cya |
| 20:19.24 | ak|ra | too time consuming at the moment :) |
| 20:19.27 | doughecka | lo |
| 20:19.28 | doughecka | lol |
| 20:19.33 | ak|ra | cu soon |
| 20:20.39 | doughecka | aha, was CVS head fixed? |
| 20:20.47 | doughecka | maybe thats why v1_7 dont work |
| 20:20.57 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.134.159) |
| 20:23.47 | patlabor221 | doug for what project? |
| 20:23.57 | doughecka | bzflag |
| 20:24.08 | doughecka | I cant get mine working |
| 20:24.15 | Chestal | committing color changes, please try them |
| 20:24.28 | doughecka | ok doke |
| 20:24.32 | CIA | commit by chestal: some changes to the colored console: one's victims are highlighted, private messages are highlighted, all chat is in cyan, cyan is less aggressive |
| 20:24.35 | patlabor221 | use /cvsroot/bzflag just like it says on SF |
| 20:24.43 | larsl_not_here | Two? |
| 20:24.49 | doughecka | thats what I have |
| 20:24.52 | prot-work | hmm odd |
| 20:24.57 | patlabor221 | what is your server? |
| 20:25.08 | doughecka | cvs.bzflag.org |
| 20:25.14 | patlabor221 | no |
| 20:25.22 | larsl_not_here | cvs.sf.net |
| 20:25.23 | patlabor221 | cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net |
| 20:25.25 | Chestal | hmm, I got "mv: cannot move `/tmp/1595559075-bzflag' to `/tmp/lastlog-bzflag': Operation not permitted" while comitting |
| 20:25.30 | prot-work | cvs.bzflag.org works |
| 20:25.35 | Chestal | larsl_not_here: two files |
| 20:25.38 | doughecka | hrm, 1.8 compiled, only needed the libs |
| 20:25.44 | doughecka | aha, ok |
| 20:25.45 | prot-work | Chestal: should still only send one commit message |
| 20:25.53 | patlabor221 | doug what is your protocol? |
| 20:25.54 | prot-work | Chestal: lemme look, i think they updated the script |
| 20:26.10 | doughecka | pserver? |
| 20:26.12 | patlabor221 | and your module name? |
| 20:26.24 | doughecka | bzflag |
| 20:26.58 | doughecka | yay |
| 20:27.07 | patlabor221 | www.bakadigital.com/psrv.png |
| 20:27.07 | doughecka | cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net dont work: cvs.sourceforge.net does |
| 20:27.10 | patlabor221 | that is my setup |
| 20:27.19 | patlabor221 | for public |
| 20:27.38 | doughecka | same as mine exept for the bzflag in server |
| 20:27.38 | doughecka | odd |
| 20:27.39 | patlabor221 | tho I never use pserver anymore |
| 20:28.50 | doughecka | pah |
| 20:28.52 | patlabor221 | cap, did you see my 2 textures? |
| 20:29.11 | prot-work | patlabor221: no |
| 20:29.21 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/boxwallcopy.png |
| 20:29.29 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/cautioncopy.png |
| 20:29.31 | larsl_not_here | I remember reading somewhere that SF was phasing out the cvs.projname.sf.net hostnames. |
| 20:29.40 | larsl_not_here | They want everyone to use cvs.sf.net instead. |
| 20:29.44 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 20:29.49 | patlabor221 | and where are you? |
| 20:29.51 | patlabor221 | if your not here |
| 20:30.00 | doughecka | mind link |
| 20:30.06 | larsl | I _shouldn't_ be here. =P |
| 20:30.15 | patlabor221 | where should you be? |
| 20:30.39 | larsl | 2 meters from here, reading stuff about thermal physics. |
| 20:30.40 | prot-work | patlabor221: nifty |
| 20:30.41 | fiberchunks | weird, emerge gives me bzflag-1.7.7.0 if i were to emerge it |
| 20:30.43 | doughecka | Chestal: compiling |
| 20:30.52 | prot-work | fiberchunks: thats their name for g0 |
| 20:30.54 | patlabor221 | are those of aceptable taste? |
| 20:30.57 | doughecka | 1.7.7.0? lol |
| 20:30.58 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 20:31.07 | prot-work | fiberchunks: since bzflag's version numbering scheme doesn't map well to gentoo's |
| 20:31.25 | fiberchunks | prot-work: is there an emerge for the current cvs code? |
| 20:31.29 | prot-work | no |
| 20:31.34 | fiberchunks | foo. |
| 20:31.37 | larsl | Mandrake should do that too - urpmi thinks that g0 is newer than g1. |
| 20:32.07 | fiberchunks | prot-work: how can one grab bzflag cvs - and then make it play nice with portage et al? |
| 20:32.12 | doughecka | does anyything else use the version[letter]number system? |
| 20:32.28 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 20:32.33 | doughecka | Chestal: compiles OK on winders |
| 20:32.38 | prot-work | fiberchunks: /me shrugs :) |
| 20:33.06 | fiberchunks | mebbe i'll look into maintaining an ebuild (or whatever it is), for bzflag -- hrm... |
| 20:33.33 | doughecka | Chestal: it doesnt flash for me |
| 20:33.34 | doughecka | hrm |
| 20:35.59 | doughecka | no, it flashes WAY to fast :) |
| 20:36.07 | doughecka | maybe your system is slower? |
| 20:36.26 | larsl | Chestal: Those colors work fine foe me. |
| 20:39.35 | prot-work | ohh man |
| 20:39.43 | prot-work | i love SGI's X server |
| 20:39.43 | *** part/#bzflag greg1 (~admin@greghub.net1.nerim.net) |
| 20:42.19 | [dmp] | I see the point in having red players writing text in red (on the HUD). But when i see red text on the top of my screen, i feel bad, as i think ive killed some teammate :) .. I guess i need to begin reading those messages :) |
| 20:43.01 | Chestal | btw.: the one lien of text that is displayed in the HUD is strange |
| 20:43.02 | doughecka | haha |
| 20:43.08 | Chestal | I get the impression that it does not work reliably |
| 20:43.11 | fiberchunks | man, i don't know what it is -- but bzflag is smooth as a baby's butt on this machine right now -- i love it :) |
| 20:43.41 | fiberchunks | mebbe X 4.3, new nvid card, new kernel, compiled optimizations, i have no idea -but WOW - how nice |
| 20:44.07 | fiberchunks | haven't fiddled with the cvs one, though |
| 20:44.13 | prot-work | haha fiberchunks |
| 20:45.01 | prot-work | Chestal: what do you mean not work reliably? |
| 20:45.16 | fiberchunks | scp'ng my bzflag directory off my laptop now, then will update and try 'er out |
| 20:45.44 | doughecka | Chestal: it blinks too fast too.. |
| 20:46.04 | Chestal | doughecka: I havent introduced the blinking |
| 20:46.08 | Chestal | doughecka: and I don#t use it |
| 20:46.26 | Chestal | prot-work: most of the time it doesn't show up at all I think. Sometimes I see it and then I wonder when it should show |
| 20:46.31 | doughecka | it blinked fine before.. hmm |
| 20:46.53 | prot-work | Chestal: odd |
| 20:46.57 | prot-work | i always see it |
| 20:47.18 | fiberchunks | which dir do i issue cvs -Pdr v1_7 in? the bzflag directory, or the bzflag/src directory? |
| 20:47.49 | Chestal | prot-work: do you see every chat message in the HUD? |
| 20:48.03 | doughecka | I did |
| 20:48.41 | prot-work | Chestal: yeah |
| 20:48.48 | prot-work | they time out after just a little bit |
| 20:48.50 | prot-work | but i see them |
| 20:49.14 | prot-work | Chestal: you changed the cyan color? |
| 20:49.26 | Chestal | yes |
| 20:49.40 | prot-work | i like it |
| 20:49.55 | bryjen | Heh. I actually like the cyan. The blinking I'm not sure about. |
| 20:50.56 | *** join/#bzflag patlabor221 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 20:50.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 20:52.37 | doughecka | can you do that? |
| 20:53.24 | prot-work | come back akira! |
| 20:54.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o prot-work] by patlabor221 |
| 20:55.21 | prot-work | patlabor221: how comes that adminy stuff? :) |
| 20:55.35 | patlabor221 | ohh not doing that here, that's at home |
| 20:55.37 | patlabor221 | doing that tonight |
| 20:55.55 | patlabor221 | now I'm just artin, inbetween builds of bicat |
| 20:55.55 | prot-work | does anybody want the altimeter to 1000 patch? |
| 20:56.04 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.145) |
| 20:56.05 | prot-work | looks like its a bit of a memory waster |
| 20:56.19 | fiberchunks | doesn't matter to me, personally -- never look at it |
| 20:57.16 | patlabor221 | are there any maps that go that high? |
| 20:57.23 | patlabor221 | or just make it say "way the hell up there" |
| 20:57.31 | prot-work | patlabor221: there might be, but right now the altimeter only goes to 100 |
| 20:57.31 | patlabor221 | or "cheater" instead of the numbers :) |
| 20:57.40 | bryjen | I switched virtual desktops while running BZFlag in a window and X froze. :( |
| 20:57.43 | patlabor221 | that is rather low |
| 20:57.49 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:57.53 | prot-work | but it keeps the labels all in memory, and this just increases the number of labels by 10 |
| 20:57.59 | prot-work | instead of making it procedural |
| 20:58.01 | sussudio | it goes higher than 100 |
| 20:58.04 | patlabor221 | how lame |
| 20:58.17 | patlabor221 | there is no reason to make it calced |
| 20:58.22 | patlabor221 | who did it? |
| 20:58.26 | prot-work | bz_ick |
| 20:58.31 | patlabor221 | who is that? |
| 20:58.34 | prot-work | dunno |
| 20:58.42 | patlabor221 | make em fix it |
| 20:59.18 | doughecka | what patch was that? |
| 20:59.21 | doughecka | ~seen rcam |
| 20:59.22 | | doughecka: i haven't seen 'rcam' |
| 20:59.28 | doughecka | heh |
| 20:59.31 | sussudio | ~seen pigs |
| 20:59.31 | | sussudio: i haven't seen 'pigs' |
| 20:59.32 | bryjen | there was a player that used the callsign ick. Haven't seen 'em in a while |
| 20:59.42 | prot-work | doughecka: something he took from nuum :) |
| 20:59.48 | prot-work | and made fugly |
| 20:59.52 | doughecka | nuum? |
| 20:59.56 | prot-work | not quite as fugly as his "iced" theme |
| 21:00.07 | prot-work | you don't know who nuum is? |
| 21:00.07 | prot-work | sigh |
| 21:00.09 | doughecka | nope |
| 21:00.20 | sussudio | gah. |
| 21:00.21 | sussudio | ?[33mmonkey'?[30m: dropped Quick Turn flag?[0;1m |
| 21:00.29 | sussudio | can you, like filter that out when i do -echo ? |
| 21:00.34 | prot-work | sussudio: -echoClean |
| 21:00.38 | sussudio | hmmk |
| 21:00.49 | doughecka | theres such a thing? ;) |
| 21:00.55 | prot-work | its kinda cool to do -echo and get colored text |
| 21:01.02 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:01.23 | prot-work | TimRiker: http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/rcam |
| 21:02.27 | doughecka | did you know he wanted me on TV? |
| 21:02.40 | Chestal | so, what happened to RCAM? Is he rich and famous yet? |
| 21:02.42 | doughecka | :P |
| 21:02.59 | prot-work | Chestal: supposably he's still working on his twisted magic tricks game or whatever it was called |
| 21:03.32 | prot-work | every time i get the random urge to look at their site the 'public demo' date is pushed back |
| 21:03.42 | patlabor221 | they have a site? |
| 21:03.47 | doughecka | Chestal: hmm, any way for us to put your robot code in also? |
| 21:03.54 | Chestal | doughecka: nope |
| 21:04.01 | doughecka | drats |
| 21:04.03 | prot-work | http://rcam.ws/ |
| 21:04.28 | fiberchunks | har har! what is that? I didn't even know bz had a "commercial" division :) |
| 21:05.06 | prot-work | fiberchunks: about a year.5 ago this kid starts calling riker wanting to do a commercial release of bz |
| 21:05.12 | patlabor221 | wow, flash over kill |
| 21:05.24 | prot-work | in return he'd put some full-time developers on the project and some sort of TBD kick-back to the community |
| 21:05.25 | doughecka | doesnt even fit in my browser |
| 21:05.34 | prot-work | turns out the guy was 13 years old :) |
| 21:05.42 | doughecka | hahaa |
| 21:06.04 | fiberchunks | lol -- ahahahahah , whoo! I wanna do a commercial release of bz too! (kick-back TBD, of course) |
| 21:06.09 | prot-work | nono, its not creeperz |
| 21:06.15 | prot-work | this guy had some ambition :P |
| 21:06.15 | doughecka | whew |
| 21:06.19 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:06.26 | sussudio | blind ambition? :-P |
| 21:06.34 | doughecka | heh |
| 21:06.41 | prot-work | patlabor221: hahaha |
| 21:06.57 | patlabor221 | and tell him I'm looking at wantint to publish his game, and that I have bzflag on board |
| 21:06.58 | patlabor221 | :) |
| 21:07.06 | prot-work | HAHA |
| 21:07.07 | fiberchunks | ooooo, PS1 looks soo pretty on my box now :) |
| 21:07.25 | prot-work | i think he's really bitter about bzflag |
| 21:07.46 | patlabor221 | I'll start out not mentioning it. |
| 21:07.57 | prot-work | just see if you can get a copy of his "game" |
| 21:08.00 | prot-work | i wanna take a look |
| 21:08.04 | patlabor221 | k |
| 21:08.06 | patlabor221 | I" |
| 21:08.11 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:08.19 | patlabor221 | I'll change around the artemisgames main page :) |
| 21:08.33 | doughecka | hehe |
| 21:08.33 | prot-work | you're a bastard, you know that? :) |
| 21:08.45 | fiberchunks | watch out for the sneaky NDA ;) |
| 21:08.50 | patlabor221 | how did you know they wern't mared yet :) |
| 21:09.03 | prot-work | huh |
| 21:09.04 | Chestal | what about [ 652361 ] Adds a new texture for SB shots |
| 21:09.06 | patlabor221 | huh, I'll make HIM sign the NDA :) |
| 21:09.16 | doughecka | Chestal: I like it |
| 21:09.31 | prot-work | ~sud |
| 21:09.31 | | shut up doug |
| 21:10.38 | fiberchunks | i do like that patch -- although i see where others are coming from about the 'able to see people with SB' though -- it's not stealth, so imho, it don't matter anyway |
| 21:11.04 | doughecka | if they get hit cuz they didnt ID the person, bummer :) |
| 21:13.01 | prot-work | hmm |
| 21:13.04 | prot-work | Chestal: i guess i like it |
| 21:13.10 | prot-work | texture is certainly pretty |
| 21:13.13 | fiberchunks | Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/bzflag |
| 21:13.13 | fiberchunks | CVS password: |
| 21:13.13 | fiberchunks | cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 21:13.16 | prot-work | shall i apply? |
| 21:13.17 | fiberchunks | whas this mean? |
| 21:14.12 | Chestal | prot-work: please apply it |
| 21:14.29 | Chestal | I would do it, but my main coding comp has no power :-( |
| 21:14.33 | prot-work | anybody remember the cvs command to set a file as binary? |
| 21:14.34 | sussudio | fiberchunks: it means, try again |
| 21:14.51 | sussudio | arrow up, enter |
| 21:15.13 | Chestal | prot-work: -ko I think |
| 21:15.17 | Chestal | eh, -kb |
| 21:15.18 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 21:15.55 | prot-work | man page is suggesting ko |
| 21:16.20 | prot-work | "Specifying `-ko' is useful for checking in binaries that shouldn't have keywords expanded" |
| 21:16.36 | doughecka | LOL |
| 21:17.01 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.51 | fiberchunks | how can i specify -march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe to the make for bzflag? |
| 21:18.31 | doughecka | wasnt there a bzfrelay? |
| 21:19.09 | sussudio | fiberchunks: i dont think there's a point, the performance is mostly a video thing |
| 21:19.52 | fiberchunks | well, it's more academic really, i just wanna find out where to put it in the config / make files |
| 21:19.58 | fiberchunks | a learning exercise |
| 21:20.04 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: Add new textures for super-bullet |
| 21:20.21 | prot-work | can someone checkout and make sure all the textures were set as binary correctly? |
| 21:20.30 | doughecka | yea |
| 21:20.42 | larsl | fiberchunks: config/Make-linux, I think. |
| 21:20.53 | prot-work | configs/config-linux |
| 21:20.58 | fiberchunks | thx |
| 21:21.00 | larsl | Ah. |
| 21:21.25 | prot-work | um, build? |
| 21:21.31 | larsl | No textures - are they in a new directory? |
| 21:21.34 | prot-work | i just need someone to open the .rgb's |
| 21:21.39 | larsl | Oh sorry, I got them. |
| 21:21.41 | prot-work | larsl: new textures should be in data/ |
| 21:21.44 | doughecka | oh |
| 21:21.45 | prot-work | ptbolt.rgb, etc |
| 21:22.38 | prot-work | [bgpry]tbolt.rgb :) |
| 21:22.53 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:22.58 | doughecka | bah |
| 21:23.02 | doughecka | photoshop dont open them |
| 21:23.06 | larsl | GIMP does. |
| 21:23.12 | fiberchunks | har |
| 21:23.31 | patlabor221 | I have just found one thing that makes gimp suck slightly less |
| 21:23.35 | sussudio | http://www.geekculture.org/joyoftech/joyarchives/483.html |
| 21:23.36 | sussudio | heh. |
| 21:23.37 | patlabor221 | it supports file drag |
| 21:23.42 | bzgirl | how do you see the latest additions to cvs? (latest fetures) i get lost in the Browse Repository page on sf |
| 21:24.09 | prot-work | bzgirl: should be able to see the "latest features" by looking at the changelog |
| 21:24.17 | patlabor221 | cap what do you think? http://www.artemisgames.com/siteart/aglogo.png |
| 21:24.44 | fiberchunks | affordable is spelled wrong |
| 21:24.49 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 21:24.54 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 21:25.26 | larsl | bzgirl: There's a program called cvs2cl that prints logs of the CVS commits. |
| 21:25.54 | doughecka | huh, bzflag do esnt crash |
| 21:27.24 | fiberchunks | wow, i really like the text coloring -- perhaps a slower blink is in order? |
| 21:27.33 | doughecka | heh |
| 21:27.36 | doughecka | I tweaked mine |
| 21:27.41 | doughecka | I need to check it though |
| 21:28.04 | fiberchunks | question: does the email address pop up only for those with the new client? and i can disable it with -anonymous, correct? |
| 21:28.33 | doughecka | mine says doug@xp |
| 21:28.37 | doughecka | kinda boring :) |
| 21:28.39 | doughecka | can I change it? |
| 21:28.44 | larsl | fiberchunks: It only pops up if you don't have an 'email' field in .bzflag, and is sent as your email to all other players. |
| 21:28.50 | doughecka | ah |
| 21:29.10 | prot-work | patlabor221: looks alright to me |
| 21:29.22 | prot-work | did anyone check the .rgbs? |
| 21:29.39 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 21:29.45 | doughecka | I ran bzflag, and it didnt crash |
| 21:29.45 | larsl | prot-work: They worked fine in GIMP. |
| 21:29.49 | prot-work | ok |
| 21:30.22 | fiberchunks | wow, very nice work gents :) |
| 21:30.30 | doughecka | patlabor221: you got bz:0 in CVS? |
| 21:31.03 | larsl | fiberchunks: And yeah, -anonymous sets the email to an empty string. |
| 21:32.01 | patlabor221 | no |
| 21:32.08 | doughecka | k |
| 21:32.27 | patlabor221 | the .rgbs for the supper shot replacement thing |
| 21:32.30 | patlabor221 | I think I made those. |
| 21:32.31 | fiberchunks | is there different coloration for certain flag types now? |
| 21:32.33 | patlabor221 | for justin |
| 21:32.39 | fiberchunks | you did, iirc |
| 21:32.56 | patlabor221 | sad I don't remember what I did :) |
| 21:33.03 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:33.17 | prot-work | hehe |
| 21:33.22 | fiberchunks | work with a guy who can't remember what he did 5 min ago, yet can remember things 30 years ago :) |
| 21:33.30 | prot-work | i'll put you in the changelog for it anyway ;) |
| 21:33.51 | patlabor221 | I reemeber doing all the art for his hud thing, and I think I did the shots too |
| 21:33.59 | patlabor221 | I remember doing something with them |
| 21:34.01 | prot-work | you helped in spirit, if nothing else |
| 21:34.15 | fiberchunks | another question: is it in any way possible to tint the area behind the player names in the scorelist? it's awfully hard to see against the sky |
| 21:34.22 | fiberchunks | ala the radar and cpanel? |
| 21:34.24 | patlabor221 | if I didn't do them, I at least told him the sucked then fixed them |
| 21:34.39 | patlabor221 | anything is posible |
| 21:36.00 | Chestal | prot-work: isn't there some code that goes along with the sb patch? |
| 21:37.08 | prot-work | Chestal: yeah, i'm working on that now |
| 21:37.13 | prot-work | its for something old |
| 21:37.17 | prot-work | so i'm manually applying it |
| 21:37.40 | patlabor221 | where has justin been? |
| 21:38.00 | Chestal | prot-work: ah, ok, not meaning to rush you :-) |
| 21:38.19 | fiberchunks | he's in hawaii, going back to school afaik |
| 21:39.50 | prot-work | Chestal: heh, its just taking a while because i have to watch for things like boolean->bool, etc |
| 21:43.37 | fiberchunks | hrm, everyone with ST / OO / CL has yellow flag tags, and everyone with GM has white flag tags -- is this purposeful? |
| 21:43.49 | prot-work | fiberchunks: supposeably |
| 21:43.51 | larsl | Flag tags? |
| 21:43.57 | prot-work | larsl: in the score list |
| 21:44.01 | fiberchunks | yeah, next to their name |
| 21:44.03 | larsl | Ah. |
| 21:44.06 | fiberchunks | seems odd |
| 21:44.16 | prot-work | fiberchunks: i think trepan's intent was to hilight people with "prey" flags :) |
| 21:44.22 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 21:44.45 | prot-work | i'm kinda wavering on the idea, but he seems to have made decent selections for which flags to boldinate |
| 21:46.27 | fiberchunks | then the patch should colorize the 'cripple' flags too |
| 21:46.36 | fiberchunks | seems the only ones are L, GM, and SW |
| 21:47.25 | larsl | Reasonable choices. |
| 21:47.53 | fiberchunks | i would say, turn the B, O, -> <- to red |
| 21:47.59 | fiberchunks | oh yeah, and JM |
| 21:48.25 | bryjen | Errrr. "Shot Me First" indicators ? |
| 21:48.31 | fiberchunks | and CB |
| 21:49.02 | prot-work | eh, i don't see a reason to hilight those |
| 21:49.03 | bryjen | s/Shot/Shoot/ |
| 21:49.09 | fiberchunks | k |
| 21:49.12 | prot-work | the power flags are good to draw attention to |
| 21:49.16 | fiberchunks | consistency |
| 21:49.27 | fiberchunks | good to draw attention away from us cripples :) |
| 21:49.48 | prot-work | hehe |
| 21:49.58 | bryjen | Those three tend to draw attention on their own anyways..... |
| 21:50.32 | bryjen | esp the big glowing sphere of death. |
| 21:50.41 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: new look for super-bullet |
| 21:51.44 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: ChangeLog, ChangeLog |
| 21:52.26 | larsl | Hehe, you made that two commits on purpose. =) |
| 21:52.37 | prot-work | i swear, i didn't! |
| 21:52.38 | prot-work | :) |
| 21:53.09 | prot-work | accident or not, we're still 11 commits behind our nearest competitor |
| 21:54.05 | Chestal | A (quick turn) is the most powerful flag and should be made red and blinking then :-) |
| 21:54.05 | bryjen | spiffy |
| 21:54.15 | prot-work | Chestal: hee |
| 21:54.27 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 21:54.56 | bryjen | whatever happened to the proposal for the U (useless) flag ;) |
| 21:54.59 | Chestal | sw is powerful on jumping servers, but only mediocre without jumping |
| 21:55.31 | prot-work | bryjen: its implemented in 1.8, will be implemented in 1.7 after g2 gets out the door |
| 21:55.44 | larsl | Hm. |
| 21:55.45 | prot-work | Chestal: yeah, but there are a lot more active jumping servers than non-jumping |
| 21:55.57 | larsl | Superbullets look like large white squares. =P |
| 21:56.18 | prot-work | larsl: sounds like it can't load the data files |
| 21:56.40 | fiberchunks | what's the update command again? |
| 21:56.50 | prot-work | Chestal / larsl / patlabor221 / etc: opinion on /genericcommand ? |
| 21:56.53 | prot-work | fiberchunks: cvs up |
| 21:56.54 | bryjen | only this bunch of nut^H^H^H people would not only come up with that, but actually implement it too ;) |
| 21:56.54 | prot-work | :) |
| 21:57.11 | prot-work | bryjen: its like a 5-line change :) |
| 21:57.19 | prot-work | the fact that it doesn't do anything really cuts down on the amount of code |
| 21:57.46 | bryjen | prot-work: 5 lines that purposefully _*do nothing*_ |
| 21:57.47 | larsl | prot-work: I suppose it could be useful, if a server want to add something like '/news' or '/policy' or something like that. |
| 21:58.31 | prot-work | bryjen: =) |
| 21:58.59 | fiberchunks | hrm, is there some way we could implement being able to compile just bzflag, and not the others? (or is that already the case, and I'm just dumb?) |
| 21:59.15 | bryjen | fiberchunks: others? |
| 21:59.22 | prot-work | its possible already |
| 21:59.27 | fiberchunks | how? |
| 21:59.29 | prot-work | with the old system, 'make linux; make bzflag' |
| 21:59.36 | fiberchunks | bzfrelay, et al bryen |
| 21:59.40 | prot-work | with the new, './configure; make bin/bzflag' |
| 21:59.47 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 21:59.47 | larsl | prot-work: None of the new RGB files will load on my system. |
| 21:59.55 | prot-work | larsl: hrmph |
| 21:59.58 | fiberchunks | thx prot-work |
| 22:00.00 | prot-work | but they load in gimp? |
| 22:00.03 | larsl | Yes. |
| 22:00.06 | prot-work | lemme try adding them differently |
| 22:00.14 | bryjen | bz-fs and -relay arent that big |
| 22:00.39 | fiberchunks | yeah, but i am used to recompiling them always (cause i did something stupid -- make clean, before each rebuild) |
| 22:00.47 | fiberchunks | so it takes much longer for me :) |
| 22:01.37 | TimRiker | hmm... /me is not sure on the super-bullet look.... |
| 22:01.46 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: lets try this again... |
| 22:02.41 | prot-work | TimRiker: cvs add -kb or -ko? |
| 22:02.53 | larsl | prot-work: I don't get anything other than the ChangeLog updated now. |
| 22:02.54 | bryjen | TimRiker: just the idea of it being different, or this particular look |
| 22:03.04 | prot-work | i'm thinking the new super bullet is nice, but should be more colorful |
| 22:03.08 | prot-work | they're all kinda white |
| 22:03.43 | patlabor221 | want me to make them better? |
| 22:03.47 | bryjen | heh. I hadnt thought to try it as different teams. |
| 22:04.16 | larsl | prot-work: It should be -kb, I think. -ko will still convert linebreaks. |
| 22:04.28 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: doodeedoo (yay for my commit messages, aren't they wonderful?) |
| 22:05.01 | prot-work | patlabor221: if you're up to it, please |
| 22:05.10 | prot-work | i think if they're just made a bit more like the team color |
| 22:05.18 | larsl | Still white boxes. |
| 22:05.22 | patlabor221 | okeys |
| 22:05.31 | Chestal | proton: hmm, not sure about the genericcommand patch, doesn't really bother me either way. If ou want to apply, please get rid of the all caps typedefs, though :-) |
| 22:05.36 | patlabor221 | now that I know I can drag files into the gimp main pallet it's easyer. |
| 22:05.57 | patlabor221 | oooo I remember these, I think I was drunk when I colored them |
| 22:06.00 | prot-work | TimRiker: opinion on /genericcommand? |
| 22:09.22 | Chestal | I actually like the sb colours :-) |
| 22:09.31 | Chestal | maybe the saturation could be increased a little |
| 22:10.17 | larsl | Am I the only one who can't get the new SB images to load? |
| 22:10.34 | prot-work | larsl: sure they're in the data directory that your bzflag is loading? |
| 22:11.32 | larsl | *embarrased silence* |
| 22:11.34 | larsl | Duh. |
| 22:11.36 | bryjen | prot-work & larsl : I bet thats it |
| 22:11.48 | prot-work | hehe |
| 22:12.04 | larsl | OK, now it works - they do look a little pale, otherwise good. =) |
| 22:14.01 | prot-work | aside from admin stuff, is there anything else we want in? |
| 22:14.37 | prot-work | hmm |
| 22:14.46 | prot-work | isn't message verbosity settings part of the client already? |
| 22:14.57 | larsl | Is 'admin' patlabor221's permission system or michaelh20's quick-admin patch? |
| 22:15.07 | prot-work | larsl: both |
| 22:15.11 | larsl | OK. =) |
| 22:15.14 | prot-work | they worked out between them what to do |
| 22:15.42 | prot-work | where michaelh20's stuff will display all the commands there are, and it'll work as currently if you don't have perms to run that command |
| 22:16.51 | fiberchunks | i rather like the white box effect :) |
| 22:17.40 | fiberchunks | reminds me of pong |
| 22:17.55 | bryjen | but they don't bounce |
| 22:27.23 | prot-work | TimRiker: poke oke :P |
| 22:28.22 | doughecka | you have something against outside light? |
| 22:29.47 | prot-work | TimRiker: opinion on /genericcommand ? |
| 22:34.42 | TimRiker | what's the issue? /genericcommand just looks for foo.txt right? |
| 22:34.50 | prot-work | pretty much |
| 22:35.03 | prot-work | code needs some cleanup (icky stuff), but should i go through the effort? |
| 22:35.24 | doughecka | how does that work? |
| 22:35.47 | Nidhoggr | larsl, have you don'e any adjustments to your admin client? |
| 22:35.51 | Nidhoggr | err done |
| 22:36.10 | larsl | Nidhoggr: Not since the second version. |
| 22:36.39 | Nidhoggr | what's in the second one? (I've only got the first, I think) |
| 22:36.45 | larsl | Hum. |
| 22:37.19 | larsl | You can choose message/command targets with left and right arrow keys, and F5/F6 generates kick/ban commands. |
| 22:37.44 | doughecka | cool |
| 22:37.51 | Nidhoggr | ooh. |
| 22:38.00 | Nidhoggr | that's what I need. :) |
| 22:38.11 | Nidhoggr | is it at sourceforge? |
| 22:38.20 | larsl | Yes, same patch. Just a new file. |
| 22:38.20 | Nidhoggr | or is it in the main dist now |
| 22:38.24 | Nidhoggr | okie. |
| 22:41.01 | doughecka | yay, its Nidhoggr |
| 22:42.15 | larsl | I'm thinking of adding some kind of autocompletion for all known commands + all player names and a cleaner way to quit, but that won't be until after thursday. =) |
| 22:42.56 | doughecka | that would be cool |
| 22:43.02 | doughecka | and a /me command |
| 22:43.25 | larsl | That would require a change in the normal client. |
| 22:43.30 | doughecka | oh |
| 22:43.46 | larsl | Or NAME: would still be added. |
| 22:43.57 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:44.07 | doughecka | hey chestal! |
| 22:44.15 | *** join/#bzflag Chestal (thilo@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) |
| 22:44.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
| 22:47.00 | Nidhoggr | thanks, larsl. this is a very nice client. |
| 22:47.02 | Nidhoggr | :) |
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| 22:48.25 | doughecka | hi thilo_ ;P |
| 22:50.13 | Nidhoggr | what does the patch do, prot-work? |
| 22:50.55 | prot-work | allows the server operator to specify /command and link to it splat a text file |
| 22:51.08 | prot-work | so they could add a /policies that reads a file and prints it to the user when they do that command |
| 22:51.19 | Nidhoggr | hrm. interesting. |
| 22:51.27 | Nidhoggr | sort of an motd file |
| 22:51.30 | prot-work | sorta |
| 22:51.31 | Nidhoggr | file/command |
| 22:51.56 | Nidhoggr | that might be handy. |
| 22:52.06 | doughecka | so if you have a file names help, and someone typed /help it would privmsg the person the file? |
| 22:52.15 | doughecka | or do you have to set it? |
| 22:52.35 | prot-work | huh |
| 22:52.46 | prot-work | read the description on the patch entry :P |
| 22:52.47 | doughecka | like in a config file |
| 23:03.28 | prot-work | ok, ima go home now |
| 23:06.46 | doughecka | what about the external GM? |
| 23:07.34 | TimRiker | ~brando |
| 23:07.35 | | hmm... brando is sells/exports the Sharp Zaurus and other electronics http://shop.brando.com.hk/ or mailto:brando@brando.com.hk. C700 $500, C750 $525, C760 $610 USD, (and $45 shipping via fedex) use email for zaurus orders, or plus shipping, or no warranty and japanese sortware. |
| 23:11.48 | doughecka | TimRiker: how about the Higher level world objects - patch |
| 23:12.50 | TimRiker | doughecka: higher than the clouds? not a fan. |
| 23:12.56 | doughecka | no |
| 23:13.06 | doughecka | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=492377&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 23:13.33 | TimRiker | I'd rather have /show foo or /help foo etc instead of /foo mapping to a read. |
| 23:13.57 | doughecka | its version safe, server side only, just it only you say make a window, and it makes a window out of blocks |
| 23:14.26 | TimRiker | doughecka: not a fan. |
| 23:14.43 | doughecka | shucks |
| 23:14.47 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:14.52 | TimRiker | build in better object handling, or write some <foo> scripts to generate worlds. |
| 23:15.01 | doughecka | yea |
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| 23:16.07 | doughecka | how about grouped map parser |
| 23:16.23 | doughecka | it would make making maps alote easyer |
| 23:16.27 | TimRiker | grouped map? |
| 23:16.32 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:16.37 | patlabor221 | doug that was an app not a pach for the client |
| 23:16.47 | doughecka | hm? |
| 23:16.55 | patlabor221 | IMHO the entire map format needs evalutaion |
| 23:17.10 | doughecka | hah, more like a total rewrite :P |
| 23:17.21 | TimRiker | patches welcome |
| 23:17.21 | doughecka | thats cool |
| 23:17.44 | doughecka | its also a bzfs patch too |
| 23:17.46 | doughecka | I think.. |
| 23:18.13 | TimRiker | should be easy to write a perl module that dumps worlds and allows group creation etc. |
| 23:18.22 | doughecka | like a map compiler? |
| 23:18.26 | TimRiker | or any other language for that matter. |
| 23:18.36 | doughecka | cool |
| 23:18.44 | doughecka | patches welcome |
| 23:18.45 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:18.54 | patlabor221 | ohh I have a plan for the maps, and yes not for this release, been waiting for it to get done :) |
| 23:19.01 | doughecka | and patlabors GM thing |
| 23:19.27 | patlabor221 | my plan goes way past sqare worlds too :) |
| 23:19.29 | sussudio | ~ducati6 |
| 23:19.48 | doughecka | you live on a round world, why play bzflag in a square world? |
| 23:20.04 | patlabor221 | you live on a sphere |
| 23:20.12 | doughecka | same diferencec |
| 23:20.18 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 23:20.19 | | shut up doug |
| 23:20.57 | doughecka | you making sphere worlds ;) |
| 23:21.34 | patlabor221 | no |
| 23:21.39 | patlabor221 | what ever you want |
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| 23:33.33 | captain_proton | doodeedoo |
| 23:33.37 | captain_proton | soo |
| 23:33.43 | captain_proton | did TimRiker ever yay/nay /genericcommand? |
| 23:34.03 | doughecka | [19:13] <@TimRiker> I'd rather have /show foo or /help foo etc instead of /foo mapping to a read. |
| 23:34.09 | patlabor221 | is there a way to list the generic commands? or is it relay just for a /help thing? |
| 23:34.29 | patlabor221 | I'm still trying to see what it's usefullness is |
| 23:35.59 | captain_proton | patlabor221: for instance, the server op could create /policies |
| 23:36.13 | captain_proton | but i can make it a /help foo |
| 23:36.14 | patlabor221 | but how would the people know |
| 23:36.35 | captain_proton | announce them in the server message? |
| 23:36.36 | patlabor221 | if there are ofical /rules /policies /help I could see that |
| 23:37.32 | larsl_not_here | Or if you make it '/show <foo>', '/show all' could list all messages. |
| 23:37.51 | captain_proton | well |
| 23:38.01 | captain_proton | could make it so /help lists the available pages and /help foo shows that page :) |
| 23:38.23 | patlabor221 | that would be more usefull I think |
| 23:38.27 | patlabor221 | more like the irc helps |
| 23:43.25 | sussudio | http://www.gammabouwmarkt.nl/elements/GN23P01.jpg < doug's bike |
| 23:44.10 | doughecka | shame you have to ride it |
| 23:44.37 | patlabor221 | Choppa bike sounds better then, "man sized big wheel" :) |
| 23:44.53 | doughecka | its man sized? |
| 23:45.04 | patlabor221 | it looked larger then a normal big wheel |
| 23:45.11 | doughecka | LOL |
| 23:47.00 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 23:47.07 | captain_proton | #commits is 65 big now |
| 23:47.46 | captain_proton | and only 33 hours old :) |
| 23:48.00 | doughecka | heh |
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| 23:54.05 | doughecka | greetings |
