| 00:09.50 | michaelh2 | any freaking way to get all the variables in a perl subroutine local without a mile of "my"s ? |
| 01:00.58 | michaelh2 | ~bleh |
| 01:01.16 | michaelh2 | ibot crash |
| 01:01.16 | | michaelh2: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 02:34.26 | creeperz | Helloz |
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| 02:47.12 | bh | hey ho |
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| 04:07.01 | patlabor221 | now THAT was a good movie |
| 04:07.28 | captain_proton | what was? |
| 04:07.38 | patlabor221 | "and they are X-men" |
| 04:08.45 | patlabor221 | the hulk looks to be exceptionaly decent as well |
| 04:08.55 | patlabor221 | tho they changed the story a good bit |
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| 04:43.11 | creeperz | Hello |
| 04:45.28 | creeperz | Pat: What did you model your sniper after? |
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| 04:48.57 | fiberchunks | hrmph -- Imma buy a mac soon |
| 04:49.00 | fiberchunks | lo all |
| 04:49.17 | creeperz | "lo" :-) |
| 04:53.03 | patlabor221 | sup |
| 04:53.21 | creeperz | H |
| 04:53.23 | creeperz | Hi* |
| 05:02.30 | patlabor221 | what is up G |
| 05:02.42 | fiberchunks | nuttin |
| 05:03.03 | patlabor221 | ahh track 14 kicks soo much ass |
| 05:03.06 | creeperz | Ummm, much home boy in da' ghetto! |
| 05:03.07 | creeperz | :-) |
| 05:03.21 | fiberchunks | gonna buy a mac cause: 1) I have CAD proggies for windows, but I don't wanna use it, and 2) Linux CAD packages pretty much suck |
| 05:03.26 | patlabor221 | I don't live in the gheto |
| 05:03.34 | patlabor221 | what you gonna use on the mac? |
| 05:03.38 | patlabor221 | vellum? |
| 05:03.39 | fiberchunks | Vectorworks |
| 05:03.53 | patlabor221 | never heard of it |
| 05:03.57 | fiberchunks | with the mechE add-on |
| 05:04.18 | fiberchunks | nice package...I demoed it a few years back, and it has only gotten better |
| 05:04.25 | patlabor221 | coo |
| 05:04.40 | fiberchunks | I wish they'd port it to linux, I'd buy it in a micro-second |
| 05:04.43 | creeperz | I wish I have CAD tools :-/ |
| 05:04.57 | patlabor221 | clasic or OSX? |
| 05:05.00 | fiberchunks | osx |
| 05:05.19 | patlabor221 | hell our software works under wine, anything elese should :) |
| 05:05.32 | fiberchunks | is vellum yours? |
| 05:05.37 | patlabor221 | no |
| 05:05.41 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:05.46 | patlabor221 | but have tons of that hangin round |
| 05:05.51 | fiberchunks | ic |
| 05:05.55 | patlabor221 | know they have mac versions |
| 05:05.58 | fiberchunks | ashlar-vellum -- |
| 05:06.09 | fiberchunks | I remember that back when I owned a IIsi |
| 05:06.16 | patlabor221 | yeah they still make it |
| 05:06.27 | creeperz | Who's ever seen Super Troopers? :-) |
| 05:06.29 | patlabor221 | you lookin for 2d or 3d? |
| 05:06.32 | fiberchunks | both |
| 05:07.14 | fiberchunks | mac, or doze? |
| 05:07.19 | patlabor221 | we have win |
| 05:07.22 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:07.29 | patlabor221 | don't think they have it for the 'tosh |
| 05:07.46 | fiberchunks | I may have to install win4lin and see if I can get things happening in there (perish the damned thought) |
| 05:08.24 | creeperz | Pat: Are you familiar with Blood Gulch? |
| 05:08.35 | patlabor221 | in what way? |
| 05:08.38 | patlabor221 | the map? |
| 05:08.47 | fiberchunks | I just got done trying out a package for win and lin called VariCAD -- but it's ridiculously expensive for what you get, and the interface is crap (plus the functionality ain't that hot, imho) |
| 05:09.03 | creeperz | My friend was on top on a little hill. He was looking in one direction for me. I had a Worthog and ran him over |
| 05:09.05 | patlabor221 | most cad interfaces are crap |
| 05:09.16 | patlabor221 | ummm ok, creeper. |
| 05:09.20 | creeperz | :-) |
| 05:09.28 | fiberchunks | heh -- I've looked in this one for Undo, fer chrissakes, and can't find it anywhere :\ |
| 05:09.34 | patlabor221 | heh |
| 05:09.36 | creeperz | He tried to jump over the vehicle, it hit him in the head :-/ |
| 05:09.54 | patlabor221 | I am so jaded by our way of doing cad, everything else seems silly tho :) |
| 05:10.11 | patlabor221 | creeper position of a car hit dosn't mater |
| 05:10.19 | creeperz | I know |
| 05:10.25 | fiberchunks | which prod is yours, just solidworks? Is it 2 and 3d? |
| 05:10.28 | fiberchunks | or just 3 |
| 05:10.31 | creeperz | Oh, in the snowy place...I forgot where exactly |
| 05:10.55 | patlabor221 | we do more CAM then cad |
| 05:10.59 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:11.01 | patlabor221 | but we have a cad part |
| 05:11.05 | creeperz | If you back a Scorpion up this hill, and keep it there, you can ramp a Ghost out of the map |
| 05:11.06 | patlabor221 | it's GibbsCAM |
| 05:11.21 | fiberchunks | heh, hence the email addy (duh) ;) |
| 05:11.29 | patlabor221 | thre you go :) |
| 05:11.47 | patlabor221 | we partner with soldiworks and a shit ton of other companys |
| 05:11.53 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:12.01 | patlabor221 | we also have a full parasolid modeler for 3d |
| 05:12.05 | creeperz | That's alot of crap! |
| 05:12.13 | creeperz | :-) |
| 05:13.13 | fiberchunks | Back when I was a doze user, I used Cadkey, and got so used to it (it has a _good_ interface once you figgur out where everything is), that I'm jaded now too. |
| 05:14.19 | patlabor221 | well our cad stuff has explicid geometry connections since it's geared for CAM, that's the part that no other cad only system does that gets me. explicid conections just make sense to me :) |
| 05:14.53 | patlabor221 | oh.. and gimp blows man :) |
| 05:14.54 | fiberchunks | what, you mean like having to trim parts to one another and what not?\ |
| 05:15.02 | fiberchunks | LOL |
| 05:15.13 | patlabor221 | no I mean like there is no triming :) |
| 05:15.31 | fiberchunks | that's what I meant -- you don't have to trim with yours |
| 05:15.44 | patlabor221 | well not that you don't have to |
| 05:15.52 | patlabor221 | there is no conecpt as triming |
| 05:15.53 | patlabor221 | you connect |
| 05:15.56 | fiberchunks | join |
| 05:15.59 | patlabor221 | every peice of geo know what 2 other peices of geo it ataches to |
| 05:16.04 | patlabor221 | and it can only have up to 2 |
| 05:16.06 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 05:16.11 | creeperz | Pat: Ep 5 good? |
| 05:16.21 | patlabor221 | well actualy only 2, or it exends to infinity |
| 05:16.26 | patlabor221 | creeper, of course. |
| 05:17.04 | creeperz | Ep 5 HiRes yet? |
| 05:17.11 | patlabor221 | yeah like last night |
| 05:17.17 | creeperz | Where is it? |
| 05:17.29 | fiberchunks | what the hell is EP? and why are there 5 of them |
| 05:17.36 | patlabor221 | episode |
| 05:17.42 | creeperz | Oh, I got it :-) |
| 05:17.46 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:17.51 | patlabor221 | the funny things I was seding you that one day |
| 05:17.53 | patlabor221 | the PSA |
| 05:18.31 | fiberchunks | yeah -- I gotta get them, now that avi is kosher with my xine (harvey birdman - very personal injury, was funny as hell) |
| 05:18.31 | creeperz | I love being a sponser :-) |
| 05:19.10 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 05:19.18 | patlabor221 | did you get the entire thign? |
| 05:19.20 | patlabor221 | thing even? |
| 05:19.23 | fiberchunks | yeah |
| 05:19.32 | patlabor221 | all the harvy birdamans are halarious |
| 05:19.41 | patlabor221 | "unibobo" is good too |
| 05:20.39 | patlabor221 | wow merry realy likes her smileys |
| 05:20.57 | fiberchunks | yes (didn't know it was a her) |
| 05:21.02 | patlabor221 | tis |
| 05:21.08 | creeperz | Odd: A hair just fell off of my head and flew toward my screen |
| 05:21.09 | patlabor221 | Sephanie |
| 05:21.22 | fiberchunks | it's called static electricity -- look into it |
| 05:21.34 | patlabor221 | that would be static charge there boyo |
| 05:21.34 | creeperz | fiber: I'm not too stupid |
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| 05:21.35 | doughecka | greetings |
| 05:21.42 | creeperz | Hallo! |
| 05:22.36 | patlabor221 | creeper you may want to change the descriotion on turbosquid, it's not a charaty, you need to make the resource seem good. |
| 05:23.04 | fiberchunks | hehehe, the meaning of life |
| 05:23.08 | creeperz | In the mormning |
| 05:23.34 | creeperz | What are we talking about meow? |
| 05:23.47 | patlabor221 | bah the entire ass end of this rifle needs to be redone, it's crap |
| 05:23.50 | fiberchunks | minorities are on the menu |
| 05:23.58 | creeperz | Pat: I argee with yu there |
| 05:24.02 | creeperz | :-) |
| 05:24.15 | fiberchunks | talking fish |
| 05:24.21 | patlabor221 | well it was a rough done in an hour. |
| 05:24.45 | fiberchunks | ahhhhhh, patlabor221, make sure you slap a human head on the front of your fish missiles! |
| 05:24.50 | patlabor221 | "why do you protect those who fear and hate you?" "... because we can" |
| 05:25.12 | patlabor221 | actualy I don't think I ever released the fishmissile |
| 05:25.23 | patlabor221 | don't think anyone ever even applied the patch. |
| 05:25.36 | fiberchunks | you could have the fishmissile only track the stealth chicken |
| 05:25.50 | patlabor221 | who said the chicken was stealth |
| 05:25.59 | fiberchunks | I did, just now ;) |
| 05:26.03 | patlabor221 | actualy the chicken runs dirty, shows up well on sensors. |
| 05:26.09 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:26.10 | patlabor221 | bad EM shields |
| 05:26.37 | fiberchunks | you could have the chicken randomly scamper about, laying egg mines |
| 05:27.17 | patlabor221 | it will scamper when not captures |
| 05:27.39 | fiberchunks | oh, that's right, forgot about capture the chicken mode |
| 05:27.46 | patlabor221 | that's what it's there for :) |
| 05:29.19 | creeperz | LOL!! |
| 05:29.27 | creeperz | Ep 5 is hilarious! |
| 05:29.43 | patlabor221 | oh and creeper don't include your desktop in product shots :), you have a lot of stuff in your system tray :) |
| 05:29.46 | patlabor221 | they all are. |
| 05:30.42 | creeperz | pat: It's not like I have "porn View Moduler" or something written on my system tray! :-) |
| 05:30.53 | fiberchunks | where is this? |
| 05:30.56 | patlabor221 | but still looks unprofectional |
| 05:31.01 | patlabor221 | http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/200664/Action/FullPreview |
| 05:31.12 | creeperz | Yea |
| 05:31.17 | patlabor221 | make them all like the second picture. |
| 05:31.25 | creeperz | Ok |
| 05:31.43 | creeperz | Think I can get $2.00 out of it, fiberchunks? |
| 05:31.57 | fiberchunks | not from me ;) |
| 05:31.58 | creeperz | pat: I like the Legendary ending for Halo |
| 05:32.10 | patlabor221 | ending? |
| 05:32.15 | creeperz | The end movie |
| 05:32.29 | creeperz | Oh man, this is the end. Give me a hug |
| 05:32.33 | patlabor221 | it's the same on all dificulties, the intro is difrent |
| 05:32.39 | patlabor221 | huh? |
| 05:32.39 | creeperz | No it's not |
| 05:32.49 | patlabor221 | I don't reacall anything about a hug |
| 05:32.58 | creeperz | If you beat the last level on Legendary, it's a different ending |
| 05:33.05 | patlabor221 | just drivin away on a long swoord |
| 05:33.10 | patlabor221 | we did beat it on legendary |
| 05:33.10 | fiberchunks | why's the downstock so large? |
| 05:33.26 | fiberchunks | or magazine, I can't decide |
| 05:33.27 | creeperz | It's half handle, half clip |
| 05:33.43 | creeperz | Where is curves is where the clip is |
| 05:33.59 | fiberchunks | does it extend up into the breech fully? |
| 05:34.05 | fiberchunks | if not, how does the ammo load? |
| 05:34.12 | creeperz | Through the handle |
| 05:34.20 | creeperz | It's hallow |
| 05:34.28 | creeperz | Spring compressed |
| 05:34.36 | patlabor221 | ~dict hallow |
| 05:34.41 | creeperz | hollow* |
| 05:34.53 | creeperz | Oops :-) |
| 05:35.09 | fiberchunks | yes, I understand the basics of spring loaded magazines -- but if the clip is bent you can't get the thing high enough into the chamber to load a round |
| 05:35.09 | patlabor221 | do unto others and all that ya know. |
| 05:35.18 | captain_proton | patlabor221: and the lord said... |
| 05:35.29 | creeperz | The rounds don't go in straight |
| 05:35.35 | creeperz | They're slanted |
| 05:35.40 | patlabor221 | let the fires of burinination come down? |
| 05:36.12 | creeperz | And they go up and forward. Stop. Go straight up into the chamber and are fired |
| 05:36.39 | captain_proton | BURNINATE |
| 05:36.45 | fiberchunks | they go up and at and angle, correct...but the difference between where the clip would have to end, and where the breech is makes for an oft jamming weapon |
| 05:37.10 | patlabor221 | wana see mine? |
| 05:37.26 | creeperz | pat: The stock is REALLY stubby! :-) |
| 05:37.27 | fiberchunks | your what (I ask with trepidation...) |
| 05:37.39 | patlabor221 | gun model thingy |
| 05:37.42 | fiberchunks | ah, sure |
| 05:38.06 | fiberchunks | creeperz: what caliber is that weapon? |
| 05:38.11 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/Snipa.png |
| 05:38.17 | fiberchunks | btw: I'm just bustin yer hump, ya know |
| 05:38.30 | creeperz | Me, fiber? |
| 05:38.34 | fiberchunks | yes |
| 05:38.36 | captain_proton | aww |
| 05:38.40 | patlabor221 | back end of mine is crap. |
| 05:38.43 | captain_proton | for some reason the arrow keys don't work in trogdor |
| 05:38.44 | captain_proton | for me |
| 05:38.48 | captain_proton | so i get sworded |
| 05:38.53 | patlabor221 | bogus |
| 05:39.07 | patlabor221 | "damn pesant" |
| 05:39.32 | fiberchunks | not bad if you don't have shoulders though ;) |
| 05:40.36 | patlabor221 | yeah hence my problem |
| 05:40.52 | patlabor221 | may make it not bullpup |
| 05:40.54 | fiberchunks | you don't have shoulders? how do you type? ;) |
| 05:41.14 | patlabor221 | pen in teeth |
| 05:41.28 | fiberchunks | not bad -- good technique you got there ;) |
| 05:41.37 | patlabor221 | years of practice |
| 05:42.20 | patlabor221 | I am happy with the middle part, the "jacket" if you will. may shorten it up to a carbine or something |
| 05:42.48 | fiberchunks | I quite like everything forward of trigger (plus scope) |
| 05:43.00 | creeperz | Pat: Lenghten the stock and give it less height |
| 05:43.22 | patlabor221 | scope needs more "telesoping" sections, and the stock needs to be redone |
| 05:43.40 | fiberchunks | make it one of them ballistic stocks that fold out ;) |
| 05:43.40 | patlabor221 | need to scale it up to a PSG1 |
| 05:43.48 | patlabor221 | on a sipe? |
| 05:43.55 | patlabor221 | snipe even? |
| 05:43.55 | fiberchunks | heh, no, j/k |
| 05:44.04 | patlabor221 | that would hurt like hell :) |
| 05:44.08 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 05:44.15 | creeperz | Pat: How did you render? Or is a plain ol' screenie? |
| 05:44.20 | fiberchunks | what caliber -- looks like a 30.06 |
| 05:44.27 | patlabor221 | supsoed to fire a 15 mm anti material round |
| 05:44.33 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:44.39 | patlabor221 | those are screenys, but I could render it if you want. |
| 05:44.52 | creeperz | How to render? |
| 05:45.05 | patlabor221 | i hit the render buton |
| 05:45.19 | creeperz | There's a render button on ms3d? |
| 05:45.36 | patlabor221 | there isn't one |
| 05:45.45 | fiberchunks | oh shit! it's Mr. Creosote! |
| 05:45.53 | creeperz | ? |
| 05:45.57 | fiberchunks | monty python |
| 05:46.09 | creeperz | Which one? |
| 05:46.18 | fiberchunks | meaning of life |
| 05:46.31 | creeperz | Never seen :-/ |
| 05:47.48 | creeperz | brb |
| 05:47.51 | captain_proton | good, you're too young anyway |
| 05:48.01 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 05:48.08 | captain_proton | =} |
| 05:48.19 | fiberchunks | I hear the woman beckoning -- later on all - have a good night / morning, etc |
| 05:49.11 | patlabor221 | see ya |
| 05:51.06 | creeperz | Back |
| 05:53.33 | patlabor221 | bahh they changed all the render otions, will have to read up on it. |
| 05:54.07 | captain_proton | time to watch some star trek |
| 05:59.41 | patlabor221 | ahhh there is the render options |
| 06:00.25 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/render.png |
| 06:01.16 | creeperz | What did you use to render? |
| 06:01.26 | patlabor221 | the app I made it in |
| 06:01.32 | patlabor221 | lightwave |
| 06:01.34 | creeperz | ms3d? |
| 06:01.37 | creeperz | Ohhh |
| 06:01.38 | patlabor221 | no |
| 06:01.38 | creeperz | :-) |
| 06:01.45 | patlabor221 | I don't do modeling in NS3d |
| 06:01.53 | patlabor221 | I just use it for UV maping |
| 06:01.57 | patlabor221 | and format conversion |
| 06:06.07 | patlabor221 | tho I may be able to do UVS in lightwave now |
| 06:08.33 | creeperz | Well |
| 06:08.37 | creeperz | I need sleep |
| 06:08.49 | creeperz | I'll see yu in the morning, maybe |
| 06:08.53 | captain_proton | geez |
| 06:09.09 | captain_proton | i get distracted for a couple minutes and suddenly, there's james T, holding a random woman |
| 06:09.23 | patlabor221 | and your suprised by this? |
| 06:09.46 | patlabor221 | he was the space pimp |
| 06:09.59 | captain_proton | its just it happens SO QUICKLY |
| 06:10.03 | captain_proton | wow |
| 06:10.09 | patlabor221 | Pimp hapens |
| 06:10.12 | captain_proton | and there goes majel making out with some random guy |
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| 06:12.14 | captain_proton | hey look |
| 06:12.18 | captain_proton | a big strong alien guy |
| 06:12.20 | captain_proton | and a robot |
| 06:12.46 | patlabor221 | see you should just watch anime, same stuff, more boobs |
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| 11:25.23 | greg1 | Hi |
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| 12:17.17 | greg1 | is ducati down today ? |
| 13:09.07 | Chestal | yes, for now |
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| 14:37.51 | creeperz | Hello, cap |
| 14:37.59 | creeperz | Hello, all |
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| 15:10.49 | Madkiss | hello? |
| 15:10.59 | creeperz | Hello? |
| 15:11.01 | Madkiss | Is Tim Riker here right now? |
| 15:13.59 | Madkiss | What I want to know is whether I am allowed to use one of the screenshots on the bzflag.org-website in my article for a german linux magazine |
| 15:14.11 | creeperz | No |
| 15:14.23 | creeperz | Oh, yea! |
| 15:14.27 | Madkiss | what, no? |
| 15:14.40 | creeperz | Tim's not here but you can use any screenshots that you wish! |
| 15:14.41 | Chestal | I don't think anyone would object this |
| 15:15.08 | Madkiss | I need to ask him personally about that, unfortunately |
| 15:15.19 | creeperz | What? Why's that? |
| 15:15.29 | Madkiss | german laws |
| 15:15.36 | creeperz | Ok |
| 15:15.45 | creeperz | I'm not Tim but... |
| 15:16.13 | creeperz | I give you full permission to anything that you wish along the lines of BZFlag according the the GNU public liscense |
| 15:16.21 | creeperz | to the* |
| 15:16.23 | Madkiss | and who are you? |
| 15:16.26 | Chestal | actually, there are two kinds of screenshots up there |
| 15:16.37 | Chestal | the 1.8 ones (a dead branch of bzflag) |
| 15:16.39 | creeperz | Some guy who lives in a land-locked state in America |
| 15:16.51 | Chestal | and the slightly smaller ones which are from an almost current version |
| 15:16.56 | Chestal | and those have been done by me |
| 15:16.56 | creeperz | Chestal: That project looked cool |
| 15:17.11 | Madkiss | http://www.bzflag.org/screenshots/ |
| 15:17.17 | creeperz | That be it |
| 15:17.44 | creeperz | Ack |
| 15:18.00 | creeperz | Headphones got stuck underneath of monitor when I turned my head |
| 15:18.06 | Madkiss | how can one mak bzflag screenies oneself? |
| 15:18.16 | Chestal | the 1.8 ones (which I wouldn't use for the article) wre doen by captan proton I think, but i am not sure |
| 15:18.21 | creeperz | Get in BZFlag |
| 15:18.48 | creeperz | When ytou're ready, push the "prt scr" or "sysrq" button and it will caputre an image |
| 15:18.51 | Chestal | not sure what's the best way, there is code to make screenshots in bzflag, but I think it is disabled by default |
| 15:19.07 | Madkiss | what key? |
| 15:19.09 | Madkiss | sysrq? |
| 15:19.10 | Madkiss | erm. |
| 15:19.12 | Chestal | the other way is to run bzflag in a window and use a generic tool to capture window contents |
| 15:19.18 | creeperz | It's on the top-right |
| 15:19.27 | creeperz | Over by the num pad but to the left |
| 15:19.27 | Madkiss | when i start it in window mode, the mouse pointer is strong in the window |
| 15:19.39 | creeperz | Don't use Window mode |
| 15:20.02 | creeperz | It makes the screenies look like crap if your screen resolution is too low or too high |
| 15:20.22 | Madkiss | how're the screenies named after that? |
| 15:20.29 | creeperz | Ok |
| 15:20.32 | creeperz | You use Windows? |
| 15:20.35 | Madkiss | No |
| 15:20.37 | creeperz | Oh |
| 15:21.00 | creeperz | Open an image viewer/maker like PhotoShop or like Win32 Paint |
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| 15:21.21 | creeperz | Ok? |
| 15:21.26 | Madkiss | hmhm |
| 15:21.31 | Madkiss | i could use import. |
| 15:21.34 | creeperz | Got that part done? |
| 15:21.47 | creeperz | Not sure what that is but try it |
| 15:22.17 | creeperz | Ok, now look for a tab or something or other that says something along the lines of "Edit" |
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| 15:23.10 | creeperz | Then go to paste when you have your screenie |
| 15:23.16 | creeperz | And it will be there |
| 15:23.25 | Madkiss | o_O |
| 15:23.36 | creeperz | Ok |
| 15:23.41 | creeperz | Let's start over |
| 15:23.54 | creeperz | Right now, push the prt scr button |
| 15:23.59 | creeperz | Ok? |
| 15:24.08 | creeperz | Then you open an image editor |
| 15:24.20 | creeperz | You use Mac, right? |
| 15:24.29 | Madkiss | Keep in Mind that I don't use Windows. Nor do I use Macintosh. |
| 15:24.33 | creeperz | Oh |
| 15:24.35 | creeperz | Linux |
| 15:24.37 | Madkiss | I've been a Linux User for 3 years |
| 15:24.49 | Madkiss | I hope that's not a problem. |
| 15:24.51 | creeperz | It's like a universal thing to take screenies |
| 15:25.11 | creeperz | Have you puched the button? |
| 15:25.18 | creeperz | pushed* |
| 15:25.27 | Madkiss | now it prints something. |
| 15:25.37 | creeperz | It is printing something out? |
| 15:25.41 | Madkiss | yes |
| 15:25.45 | creeperz | Like, out of your printer? |
| 15:25.48 | Madkiss | yes |
| 15:25.53 | creeperz | ...crap |
| 15:26.01 | creeperz | SuSe by chance? |
| 15:26.06 | Madkiss | no |
| 15:26.19 | creeperz | What type of Linux do you have? |
| 15:26.24 | Madkiss | Debian |
| 15:26.33 | creeperz | Ahhhh |
| 15:26.45 | creeperz | Try Alt+ prt scr |
| 15:26.56 | creeperz | Or ctrl+prt scr |
| 15:27.29 | Madkiss | that prints again something |
| 15:28.07 | creeperz | I don't know much about Linux, unfortunately |
| 15:28.41 | Chestal | you really have to use a utility for that or enable the builtin-screenshot-code |
| 15:28.50 | Madkiss | how does one do that? |
| 15:28.54 | creeperz | Thank you, Chestal! |
| 15:28.58 | creeperz | :-) |
| 15:29.06 | Chestal | would the images on bzflag.org suite your needs? |
| 15:29.22 | Madkiss | they probably would but i need to have the ACK from tim in order to use them |
| 15:29.36 | Chestal | let me check if I have a copy of mine laying around |
| 15:29.43 | creeperz | I thought that the GNU overruled that law? |
| 15:29.46 | Chestal | those on the webseite have not been done by TIm anyway |
| 15:30.10 | creeperz | That the public has access to anything :-/ |
| 15:30.34 | Madkiss | i wonder how one does enable that screenshot feature |
| 15:30.55 | creeperz | Ouch |
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| 15:31.03 | creeperz | I just chewed into a wire :-) |
| 15:31.23 | creeperz | captain_proton: Having an "on/off" day? |
| 15:31.24 | creeperz | :-) |
| 15:32.24 | Chestal | Madkiss: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/bzflag/shots/ this is my site |
| 15:32.42 | Chestal | and it's the same images :-) |
| 15:33.10 | Madkiss | now what do you want me to do? ;) |
| 15:33.18 | Chestal | well, if you want to use them, use them |
| 15:33.52 | Chestal | what magazine is it, btw.? |
| 15:34.02 | Madkiss | Linux Magazine, Germany |
| 15:34.07 | creeperz | How to get ariel cam? |
| 15:35.27 | Chestal | ah, I know that magazine. Actually, a friend of mine wrote a couple of game articles for it. DOn't know if he still does it, havne't read the magazine for some time |
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| 15:41.31 | creeperz | Chestal: You good at making 3D models? |
| 15:41.38 | creeperz | With Milkshape 3D? |
| 15:43.27 | Madkiss | Can somebody just get me a screen shot, please? |
| 15:43.31 | Madkiss | this is probably the easiest solution |
| 15:44.45 | creeperz | ~permission |
| 15:44.46 | | Oh sure! Take all the screenshots you need. They're open to the public ;-) |
| 15:45.26 | creeperz | That's Tim's half-witted counter-part |
| 15:45.38 | creeperz | And he just gave you permission |
| 15:46.39 | Chestal | creeperz: never used Milkshape, didn't do any 3D models for over 10 years |
| 15:46.53 | creeperz | What? |
| 15:47.02 | creeperz | Ohhh |
| 15:47.03 | creeperz | :-) |
| 15:48.12 | Chestal | Madkiss: the screenshots on my site are really mine (and have been copied to bzflag.org later). Althoguh I cannot prove it of course |
| 15:48.21 | Chestal | and my screenshots can be used for anything |
| 15:48.36 | creeperz | Chestal. Name in corner? |
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| 15:49.02 | Madkiss | which one from these would you take then? |
| 15:50.50 | Chestal | creeperz: most have none, and if they have I guess it's C |
| 15:50.57 | Chestal | Madkiss: no idea, that's for you to decide |
| 15:50.59 | Chestal | I have to go, cu |
| 15:51.10 | creeperz | Bye |
| 15:53.59 | stibnite | people are bitching about a cheater on turkey. |
| 15:54.08 | stibnite | I'm not a person, so I'm not bitching. |
| 15:54.17 | Madkiss | a cheater? |
| 15:54.23 | Madkiss | a real cheater? |
| 15:54.32 | creeperz | That's cell's nasty work, I bet |
| 15:54.34 | Madkiss | a 'WE-HAVE-A-CHEATER-OVER-THERE'-cheater? |
| 15:54.37 | creeperz | Noone else is that stupid |
| 15:55.58 | stibnite | i don't bet |
| 15:56.05 | stibnite | I'm just a bitching proxy |
| 15:56.16 | creeperz | Cell's a proxy |
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| 17:39.17 | creeperz | mmm |
| 17:39.25 | creeperz | BlueBerry Bagle |
| 17:39.31 | creeperz | brb |
| 17:40.32 | creeperz | back |
| 17:40.49 | creeperz | Man it's slow today |
| 18:05.10 | creeperz | :-) |
| 18:05.52 | creeperz | pat: is there a snap-to grid option for MS3D? |
| 18:11.46 | patlabor221 | don't think so |
| 18:11.55 | creeperz | Darn |
| 18:12.13 | creeperz | Oh, pat, I redid the the end of your gun |
| 18:12.24 | creeperz | It looks better than the stub you had but not much |
| 18:12.29 | patlabor221 | show me |
| 18:12.36 | creeperz | In JAS |
| 18:12.58 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 18:13.03 | creeperz | Just a sec |
| 18:15.13 | patlabor221 | what did you change, looks the same |
| 18:15.21 | creeperz | The back |
| 18:15.31 | creeperz | It's not a stub anymore |
| 18:16.06 | patlabor221 | that makes it worse, how would that go in your sholder |
| 18:16.12 | patlabor221 | you could not get your eye to the sight |
| 18:16.26 | patlabor221 | it's suposed to be a short stock, it's a bullpup |
| 18:16.33 | patlabor221 | the clip is in the stock |
| 18:18.21 | creeperz | Well sorry mr. f-ing perfect |
| 18:18.28 | creeperz | See if I try to help you again |
| 18:20.16 | patlabor221 | I'm just commenting on it |
| 18:20.18 | patlabor221 | that's all |
| 18:20.27 | patlabor221 | thanks for the atempt |
| 18:20.36 | patlabor221 | I have a sketch up for what I want to do with it |
| 18:20.50 | patlabor221 | I'm not treating it as a serious model tho, just did it to unwind one night |
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| 18:45.57 | creeperz | Hi |
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| 20:44.21 | david_v | Chestal, what's up with ducati? |
| 20:44.41 | david_v | and hi everybody, btw :) |
| 21:18.04 | Chestal | file server crashed again |
| 21:18.10 | Chestal | it does that once per weeklately |
| 21:18.10 | dave_away | hmm |
| 21:18.16 | Chestal | and I couldn't get it to work again |
| 21:18.22 | david_v | once per week, wow |
| 21:18.25 | david_v | what kind of server is it? |
| 21:18.46 | Chestal | it's a RS6000 with 4 Power CPUs |
| 21:18.52 | Chestal | not a recent model, though |
| 21:18.57 | Chestal | got some hardware problemsd |
| 21:19.46 | david_v | i mean the OS |
| 21:19.51 | Chestal | AIX |
| 21:19.54 | david_v | oh |
| 21:20.05 | Chestal | ducati itself is a P75 with Linux |
| 21:20.19 | Chestal | but it depends on the server machine |
| 21:20.22 | david_v | does the fileserver act as a router or what? |
| 21:20.34 | Chestal | well, it's file/NIS/name server |
| 21:20.39 | david_v | ah |
| 21:20.46 | Chestal | and I'm a user on ducati and have bzfs in my homedir |
| 21:21.25 | david_v | k... |
| 21:21.38 | david_v | what parts are you getting probs with? |
| 21:21.38 | Chestal | will probably be fixed on Monday, maybe tomorrow but don't hold your breath |
| 21:21.44 | david_v | memory, overheating? |
| 21:21.45 | Chestal | worst case is that the machine is now dead for good |
| 21:21.51 | david_v | oh... |
| 21:21.53 | Chestal | we have no real idea |
| 21:21.59 | Chestal | it crashed during the initial self tests now |
| 21:22.14 | david_v | i was on rosemeyers today as someone suggested it a few days ago, seems fine meanwhile |
| 21:22.23 | Chestal | yes, it's ok |
| 21:22.43 | Chestal | different for me because I;m used to lag around 20ms on ducati, though |
| 21:22.59 | Chestal | ah, btw,. you're a member of consumption? |
| 21:24.17 | david_v | yeah, so far at least (i think you can guess why i say so far, i don't want to say it loudly) |
| 21:24.52 | david_v | 20 ms is quite nice ;) |
| 21:25.21 | Chestal | my reason for asking is because a match was reported to me late, ProXs vs. Consumption, which ProXs obviously won 3:2 |
| 21:25.33 | Chestal | izto and freebeer played, though, so you might not even know about it |
| 21:25.38 | david_v | well i didn't play in that one |
| 21:26.34 | Chestal | ok, I'm heading home, cu |
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| 22:25.01 | BaDiN | hallo |
| 22:25.04 | BaDiN | what happened to ducati? |
| 22:25.22 | BaDiN | hum |
| 22:25.25 | BaDiN | chestal is not here |
| 22:25.33 | BaDiN | did he turned it off? |
| 22:25.51 | BaDiN | hallo? |
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| 23:00.47 | iluxa | No HoW here either... :( |
