irclog2html for #bzflag on 20030413

`00:06.07`	`[dmp]`	`chestal: have you any idea what the status(register/unregistered) is used for (l_player) ?`
`00:06.55`	`Chestal`	`hmm, haven#t looked at it and nothign comes to my midn right now`
`00:07.03`	`Chestal`	`ah, wait, something comes to my mind :-)`
`00:07.15`	`Chestal`	`initially, he wanted to do confirmatin per mail`
`00:07.27`	`Chestal`	`i.e. yu regsiter, scritp sends a mail to you, you reply and are configrmed`
`00:07.38`	`Chestal`	`but you cannot send mails from sf`
`00:07.43`	`[dmp]`	`ah.`
`00:13.00`	`*** join/#bzflag Skipp (nqrgt320@dialup-67.26.56.64.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net)`
`00:13.30`	`Skipp`	`i just set up a home network and i want to play bzflag over the network, how would i do that?`
`00:21.58`	`Patlabor221`	`do all the machines have IPs?`
`00:22.04`	`Skipp`	`yes`
`00:22.13`	`Patlabor221`	`then just start a server one one`
`00:22.20`	`Skipp`	`it doesn't work`
`00:22.22`	`Patlabor221`	`and it's machine name shoudl show up in the list for you`
`00:22.27`	`Patlabor221`	`dosn't show up?`
`00:22.28`	`Skipp`	`they don't see the server`
`00:22.45`	`Patlabor221`	`they all on the same subnet?`
`00:22.49`	`Skipp`	`one my network neighboorhood the other computer doesn't show up either`
`00:23.26`	`Patlabor221`	`can you ping there Ips?`
`00:23.35`	`Skipp`	`how do u do that?`
`00:23.41`	`Patlabor221`	`what os you on?`
`00:23.45`	`Chestal`	`hi Skipp, and good night everyone`
`00:23.48`	`Skipp`	`2000`
`00:23.53`	`Skipp`	`nnight`
`00:24.01`	`Skipp`	`windows`
`00:24.05`	`Patlabor221`	`go to the start menu, then go to "run"`
`00:24.10`	`Patlabor221`	`then type in 'CMD'`
`00:24.12`	`Patlabor221`	`then hit enter`
`00:24.19`	`Patlabor221`	`then when the dos box comes up`
`00:24.34`	`Skipp`	`k`
`00:24.34`	`Patlabor221`	`type 'ping (one of the IPs)`
`00:24.42`	`Patlabor221`	`whoops no '`
`00:24.44`	`Patlabor221`	`just ping`
`00:24.48`	`Patlabor221`	`and a space`
`00:24.50`	`Patlabor221`	`then the ip`
`00:25.01`	`Skipp`	`where would u find the ip`
`00:26.00`	`Skipp`	`nvm`
`00:26.44`	`Patlabor221`	`on the other machines`
`00:26.47`	`Patlabor221`	`in there network setup`
`00:27.34`	`Skipp`	`the wireless connected computer says the signal is excellent and when i did a test everything worked`
`00:28.22`	`Patlabor221`	`it's not signal`
`00:28.25`	`Patlabor221`	`it's Ip`
`00:28.36`	`Patlabor221`	`if your not on the same subnet you won't see each other`
`00:29.05`	`Patlabor221`	`or are you using like a DSL router to give out IPs? so each machine is set to "automaticly get an ip"`
`00:29.59`	`Skipp`	`yes`
`00:31.13`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm`
`00:31.25`	`Patlabor221`	`are all the macines 2000?`
`00:31.41`	`Skipp`	`one is 98, the wireless, 2000 the cable`
`00:31.56`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm`
`00:32.16`	`Patlabor221`	`well if they all got Ips from the router they should be all on the same subnet`
`00:32.26`	`Patlabor221`	`they can all get on the network?`
`00:32.37`	`Patlabor221`	`and the internet?`
`00:33.49`	`Skipp`	`on the test it worked`
`00:33.56`	`Skipp`	`one computer doesn't have a modem`
`00:34.05`	`Skipp`	`so no internet`
`00:34.26`	`Patlabor221`	`so they are not all sharing a connection`
`00:34.37`	`Skipp`	`not internet`
`00:34.52`	`Patlabor221`	`ok, do you know what is giveing them Ips?`
`00:35.09`	`Patlabor221`	`usualy the wireless boxes don't give IPs out`
`00:35.28`	`Patlabor221`	`you may need to go give them static Ips in there network setup for there network cards`
`00:35.34`	`Skipp`	`i went to the control panel, then to network, and then selecting pick an automatic IP address`
`00:35.52`	`Patlabor221`	`well it has to get that automatic IP from a thing called a DHCP server`
`00:36.06`	`Patlabor221`	`so you have to have something on your network that is doing that.`
`00:36.48`	`Skipp`	`the SSID is the name for my wireless network`
`00:37.03`	`Patlabor221`	`that part of the wireless, not IP`
`00:37.37`	`Patlabor221`	`the wireless network can do more then TCP/IP for networking`
`00:37.46`	`Skipp`	`how do i get the 2 computer to recognize each other on the network neighboorhood`
`00:38.02`	`Patlabor221`	`give them Ips on the same subdomain is the easyest`
`00:38.13`	`Skipp`	`same ips`
`00:38.18`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`00:38.29`	`Patlabor221`	`like 196.0.2.100`
`00:38.30`	`Patlabor221`	`for one`
`00:38.34`	`Patlabor221`	`and 101 for another`
`00:38.35`	`Patlabor221`	`ect`
`00:38.40`	`Skipp`	`k`
`00:38.44`	`Patlabor221`	`just so the first set of numbers matches`
`00:38.55`	`Skipp`	`how do u assign a new ip to replace the old`
`00:39.12`	`Patlabor221`	`in that dialog where you said to get an automatic IP`
`00:39.20`	`Patlabor221`	`set it to the other seting`
`00:39.26`	`Patlabor221`	`then you can put one in`
`00:39.58`	`Skipp`	`what is the subnet mask`
`00:40.08`	`Patlabor221`	`255.255.255.0`
`00:40.50`	`Skipp`	`default gateway?`
`00:41.02`	`Skipp`	`and DNS server`
`00:41.03`	`Patlabor221`	`your not sharing a connection so you don't need one`
`00:41.07`	`Patlabor221`	`of ether of those`
`00:41.18`	`Skipp`	`just skipp them`
`00:41.21`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`00:41.27`	`Skipp`	`thanks`
`00:41.31`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`00:41.52`	`Skipp`	`do the same for the other but just change the last number again right`
`00:41.59`	`Skipp`	`in the ip`
`00:42.03`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`00:42.25`	`Patlabor221`	`you may need to restart them all, I don't recall how 98 handles an IP change`
`00:43.53`	`Skipp`	`98 is now restarting`
`00:44.35`	`Skipp`	`how would i test it?`
`00:44.45`	`Skipp`	`to see if it worked`
`00:46.52`	`Patlabor221`	`start a server`
`00:46.58`	`Patlabor221`	`see if it shows up`
`00:47.08`	`Patlabor221`	`if not, put in the IP of the machine that has the server`
`00:47.12`	`Patlabor221`	`and see if you can connect`
`00:48.44`	`Skipp`	`on the server i started the address wasn't the ip address but a bunch of letters`
`00:48.57`	`Skipp`	`not the ip address i put in`
`00:49.10`	`Patlabor221`	`that's ok,`
`00:49.18`	`Patlabor221`	`that's the machines name`
`00:49.27`	`Patlabor221`	`the local machine with the server knows it's own name`
`00:49.34`	`Skipp`	`k`
`00:53.30`	`Skipp`	`the server i create doesn't appear on the server list`
`00:56.42`	`Patlabor221`	`it may not since you dn't have a real gateway`
`00:56.49`	`Patlabor221`	`but if you put in that IP does it connect`
`00:56.53`	`Skipp`	`no`
`00:56.57`	`Skipp`	`tried that`
`00:58.02`	`Skipp`	`should i try restarting this computer`
`00:58.12`	`Skipp`	`since i just put in a new IP`
`00:59.29`	`Patlabor221`	`you can try, other then that I don't know`
`00:59.34`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm outa ideas :(`
`00:59.44`	`Skipp`	`k, thanks for the help`
`00:59.48`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`00:59.49`	`*** part/#bzflag Skipp (nqrgt320@dialup-67.26.56.64.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net)`
`01:22.05`	`*** join/#bzflag doughecka (SteveJobs@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net)`
`01:22.05`	`doughecka`	`greetings`
`01:24.37`	`Patlabor221`	`supu`
`01:30.15`	`*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-177-28.d-ip.magma.ca)`
`01:30.30`	`bzgirl`	`hi`
`01:36.38`	`Patlabor221`	`hello`
`01:37.37`	`[dmp]`	`Patlabor221: Would you host my data-collecting scripts for my ladder, while i move?`
`01:37.58`	`*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-177-28.d-ip.magma.ca)`
`01:38.43`	`Patlabor221`	`if you set them up sure`
`01:38.52`	`Patlabor221`	`I can make you a shell account`
`01:38.59`	`Patlabor221`	`and you can put the stuff where you need`
`01:39.03`	`[dmp]`	`i need a mysqldatabase as well, if you can`
`01:39.07`	`Patlabor221`	`ok`
`01:39.22`	`Patlabor221`	`we can put it in a subfolder on the bzbb site`
`01:39.54`	`[dmp]`	`not you dont need to make any webrelated stuff.`
`01:40.03`	`[dmp]`	`it will only collect data`
`01:40.11`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh just mysql thats it?`
`01:40.13`	`Patlabor221`	`or php?`
`01:40.15`	`[dmp]`	`i can process it when it gets back up.`
`01:40.19`	`[dmp]`	`mysql and perl`
`01:40.23`	`Patlabor221`	`ok`
`01:40.25`	`Patlabor221`	`no prob`
`01:40.31`	`[dmp]`	`and cron to execute it`
`01:40.38`	`Patlabor221`	`cron?`
`01:41.19`	`[dmp]`	`a tool which lets you execute a command at specific times (eg. one a minut, at 24:00 .. )`
`01:41.35`	`[dmp]`	`you got it installed, i'm sure of that :).. it is a standard tool on unix`
`01:42.10`	`Patlabor221`	`ok`
`01:44.33`	`Patlabor221`	`gimme just a bit to make the account`
`01:44.39`	`Patlabor221`	`gotta finish a bit of HTML`
`01:52.16`	`Patlabor221`	`actualy when do you need it by`
`01:52.27`	`Patlabor221`	`since I'm installing some hardware in it tomorow`
`01:52.34`	`Patlabor221`	`can I just set it up for you then?`
`01:52.49`	`[dmp]`	`i'm moving the 22th.. so by 20th is fine.`
`01:54.16`	`Patlabor221`	`I'll make the account for you tommorow, and send you a PM on the meessage board with the info.`
`01:54.33`	`[dmp]`	`thanks alot.`
`01:54.38`	`Patlabor221`	`no problem`
`02:01.08`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhh there we go`
`02:01.14`	`Patlabor221`	`a new site layout`
`02:01.16`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/newindex2.html`
`02:01.26`	`Patlabor221`	`anyone have an opion?`
`02:02.15`	`bzgirl`	`i like it`
`02:02.24`	`bzgirl`	`who's the babe? :)`
`02:02.44`	`[dmp]`	`me too. just think that the white background in the boxes is abit too bright as everything else seems to be darker and more calm`
`02:03.04`	`Patlabor221`	`she's from some old art`
`02:03.19`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm I could tone them down to a light gray`
`02:03.27`	`Patlabor221`	`thhat may not look too bad`
`02:04.23`	`bzgirl`	`i find white bg's easier to read though`
`02:04.34`	`Patlabor221`	`tho she may be replaced with a slightly difrent one`
`02:04.38`	`Patlabor221`	`if I can find a scanner`
`02:04.46`	`Patlabor221`	`well let me just see what it looks like`
`02:07.09`	`Patlabor221`	`don't know if I like the gray`
`02:07.10`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/newindex3.html`
`02:07.41`	`Patlabor221`	`like a grid blend behind it all?`
`02:07.49`	`bzgirl`	`your links to the demo might need to be darkened now`
`02:08.27`	`Patlabor221`	`actualy I think I will go with the white`
`02:08.35`	`Patlabor221`	`but the idea of the grid is good`
`02:08.41`	`Patlabor221`	`maybe I can work something in there`
`02:09.49`	`[dmp]`	`perhaps if you just have the grid at the top and then fade it to white.. and then some at the bottom as well`
`02:10.05`	`Patlabor221`	`gonna try something here`
`02:11.48`	`bzgirl`	`gnite`
`02:11.54`	`Patlabor221`	`nite`
`02:12.22`	`[dmp]`	`I'm going too. Looking forward to seeing the result :)`
`02:12.32`	`Patlabor221`	`thanks :)`
`02:42.06`	`doughecka`	`oooh, a AC for my car...`
`02:43.15`	`Patlabor221`	`a cooler and a fan?`
`02:43.31`	`doughecka`	`compresser and stuff, yea`
`02:43.40`	`Patlabor221`	`wow`
`02:43.51`	`Patlabor221`	`you said you didn't need AC tho`
`02:44.03`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`02:44.06`	`doughecka`	`but its still neat`
`02:44.11`	`doughecka`	`AC on a air cooled car`
`02:44.32`	`doughecka`	`dunno how much he wants for it`
`02:44.40`	`doughecka`	`but its made by VW, so it cant be bad`
`02:44.54`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor221: you sell CF cards?`
`02:44.58`	`doughecka`	`or only readers?`
`02:45.07`	`doughecka`	`(or give away for that matter`
`02:46.12`	`Patlabor221`	`we don't cary any in stock`
`02:46.17`	`doughecka`	`hm`
`02:46.18`	`Patlabor221`	`and we don't give away anything`
`02:46.21`	`doughecka`	`do you have any?`
`02:46.27`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`02:46.37`	`doughecka`	`drats`
`02:46.44`	`Patlabor221`	`you could buy one and we could order it`
`02:47.04`	`doughecka`	`nah`
`02:48.19`	`*** join/#bzflag blitz__LTd (~d80884e0@203.194.240.139)`
`02:48.24`	`Patlabor221`	`then go buy one`
`02:48.27`	`Patlabor221`	`they are cheap as hell`
`02:48.35`	`doughecka`	`yea..`
`02:48.42`	`doughecka`	`but I dont have any money`
`02:48.50`	`Patlabor221`	`then guess you are SOL`
`02:49.06`	`doughecka`	`hm`
`02:55.46`	`*** join/#bzflag GenRommel (~gene@24-193-121-4.nj.rr.com)`
`03:05.28`	`*** join/#bzflag God-fearer (~vds@185.205.27.24.cfl.rr.com)`
`03:05.37`	`God-fearer`	`~bzflist`
`03:07.55`	`*** join/#bzflag Skipp (ujads240@dialup-64.156.53.72.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net)`
`03:09.09`	`Skipp`	`i have a network where one computer sees the other but the other one doesn't see the first one`
`03:09.21`	`doughecka`	`bummer dood`
`03:09.24`	`Skipp`	`how do i fix that`
`03:09.26`	`doughecka`	`:D`
`03:13.52`	`Skipp`	`is it a problem with the workgroup`
`03:14.33`	`doughecka`	`dunno`
`03:14.37`	`Skipp`	`when i tried to print something over the network it said i didn't have permission to the other computer`
`03:14.45`	`doughecka`	`huh`
`03:14.47`	`doughecka`	`XP and 98?`
`03:14.56`	`Skipp`	`2000 and 98`
`03:15.14`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`03:16.00`	`Skipp`	`2000 one isn't seeing the 98, but the 98 is seeing the 2000`
`03:16.20`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`03:16.22`	`doughecka`	`dunno`
`03:16.26`	`doughecka`	`I know the other way`
`03:17.54`	`Skipp`	`do u knwo what is wrong`
`03:18.33`	`doughecka`	`nope`
`03:21.27`	`*** part/#bzflag Skipp (ujads240@dialup-64.156.53.72.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net)`
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`05:04.51`	`Patlabor221`	`how do I make cheese`
`05:07.35`	`Patlabor221`	`cap the collision detection stuff was causing some realy wierd tings to happen`
`05:07.38`	`Patlabor221`	`segfualts`
`05:07.41`	`Patlabor221`	`and walking over mem`
`05:07.50`	`captain_proton`	`in what code?`
`05:08.04`	`Patlabor221`	`wasn't able to debug, only happend in release`
`05:08.26`	`Patlabor221`	`well I commented out the calls to the offending sections to narrow it down`
`05:08.31`	`captain_proton`	`yick`
`05:08.47`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah, ran outa time to track it further`
`05:08.55`	`Patlabor221`	`got boundschecker so I can look more`
`05:09.07`	`Patlabor221`	`to see if there are any uninitialised stuff`
`05:09.44`	`captain_proton`	`k`
`05:09.45`	`captain_proton`	`i'`
`05:09.53`	`Patlabor221`	`I found a bunch of stuff, and fixed that.`
`05:10.02`	`captain_proton`	`ll be able to look at it a bit more after i finish this homework (maybe an hour or two)`
`05:10.13`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh they joy of homework`
`05:10.48`	`captain_proton`	`yup`
`05:10.52`	`Patlabor221`	`was wierd it was causinsg stuff to draw on the screen, lots of green tris near the camera`
`05:11.01`	`Patlabor221`	`then would randomly puke`
`05:11.09`	`captain_proton`	`the green tris were intentional`
`05:11.17`	`captain_proton`	`those were supposed to be the collision volume`
`05:11.20`	`Patlabor221`	`ok`
`05:11.24`	`captain_proton`	`of the boxes`
`05:11.30`	`captain_proton`	`but the matrix was getting munged somewhere`
`05:11.37`	`Patlabor221`	`did you also turn on double sided drawing?`
`05:13.07`	`captain_proton`	`yup`
`05:13.13`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`05:13.20`	`Patlabor221`	`thought so, but wasn't sure`
`05:13.24`	`captain_proton`	`because the tris in the collision volume aren't wound any specific way`
`05:13.46`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh`
`05:13.51`	`Patlabor221`	`makes sense then`
`05:13.58`	`Patlabor221`	`well good luck on the work of home`
`05:25.36`	`*** join/#bzflag doughecka (SteveJobs@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net)`
`05:25.36`	`doughecka`	`greetings`
`05:26.11`	`Patlabor221`	`you find anyone to con out of a CF card?`
`05:31.23`	`captain_proton`	`very nearly but not quite larger than my head`
`05:32.51`	`Patlabor221`	`that is sizeable`
`05:36.24`	`Patlabor221`	`ehhh I'll just scan the new site artwork when I go in to work to do the machine swap tomrow`
`05:36.52`	`captain_proton`	`new site artwork?`
`05:38.18`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`05:38.25`	`Patlabor221`	`I redid the screamers site a bit`
`05:38.34`	`Patlabor221`	`but I have some difrent artwork for it now`
`05:38.54`	`captain_proton`	`ooo`
`05:38.55`	`captain_proton`	`looks good`
`05:38.58`	`Patlabor221`	`http://asgard.bakadigital.com/Screamers/`
`05:39.02`	`Patlabor221`	`thanks`
`05:39.27`	`Patlabor221`	`but I have a difrent girl to replace that girl`
`05:39.45`	`Patlabor221`	`since legaly speaking I'm not suposed to use her.`
`05:39.58`	`Patlabor221`	`tho I don't even know who did the drawing`
`05:40.02`	`captain_proton`	`"Black, Green ( defalut ), Yellow, Blue, Purple, and Red."`
`05:40.07`	`captain_proton`	`yay for defalut!`
`05:40.32`	`Patlabor221`	`I need a web spell checker`
`05:40.41`	`Patlabor221`	`I wonder if dreamweaver does it`
`05:40.58`	`captain_proton`	`aww`
`05:41.02`	`captain_proton`	`don't take away defalut`
`05:41.08`	`Patlabor221`	`LOL`
`05:41.10`	`captain_proton`	`it lets me know that you really put your heart into this web site`
`05:41.20`	`Patlabor221`	`I should make that a team name :)`
`05:41.26`	`captain_proton`	`hehe`
`05:41.45`	`Patlabor221`	`team defalut! challenges you!`
`05:42.20`	`Patlabor221`	`and then we kick your ass all driving backwards`
`05:45.26`	`captain_proton`	`oooo`
`05:45.31`	`captain_proton`	`the dentist song is playing`
`05:45.36`	`Patlabor221`	`?`
`05:45.39`	`captain_proton`	`iiiiiiiiiiii have become...comfortably numb`
`05:45.51`	`Patlabor221`	`:)`
`05:53.06`	`captain_proton`	`hm`
`05:53.10`	`captain_proton`	`my fridge is unusually well stocked`
`05:53.21`	`Patlabor221`	`someone hit the store?`
`05:53.32`	`captain_proton`	`well i did`
`05:53.58`	`captain_proton`	`but i often don't have this variety of stuff since i eat at least a portion of my meals at the dorm dining halls`
`05:56.16`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhh`
`05:56.26`	`Patlabor221`	`there we go, fixed sound.`
`05:58.07`	`captain_proton`	`what was broken with it?`
`05:58.20`	`Patlabor221`	`well it was the sound thing that was busted`
`05:58.29`	`Patlabor221`	`just part of the new OSfile stuff`
`05:58.57`	`Patlabor221`	`the new function GetFullOSPath was not working the Second time it was called`
`05:59.03`	`Patlabor221`	`wasn't clearing out it's static guy`
`05:59.28`	`Patlabor221`	`it's only called by Sound, and one of the 3 texture loaders`
`06:00.55`	`Patlabor221`	`I should probably change the sound loaders to call the read and write functions of the sound manager, and then init the samples from mem, instead of a file.`
`06:01.11`	`Patlabor221`	`then it would work fine if osfile read from a virtual file system`
`06:03.45`	`captain_proton`	`"added a chicken"`
`06:04.00`	`Patlabor221`	`:)`
`06:04.14`	`Patlabor221`	`the chicken is coo`
`06:04.30`	`Patlabor221`	`she needs to run around`
`06:04.37`	`Patlabor221`	`and be hit by the pod`
`06:04.42`	`Patlabor221`	`and pitched`
`06:05.03`	`Patlabor221`	`there WILL be a CTC game mode too`
`06:06.45`	`captain_proton`	`capture the chicken?`
`06:06.50`	`Patlabor221`	`yup`
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`06:34.25`	`Patlabor221`	`there we go, put the shoutbox in an iframe, helps the page load faster, and the main page dosn't have java on it`
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`06:40.02`	`Patlabor221`	`LOL`
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`06:49.38`	`Patlabor221`	`bug fixes commited`
`06:49.42`	`Patlabor221`	`chickens enabled`
`06:49.44`	`Patlabor221`	`site update`
`06:49.47`	`Patlabor221`	`sleep`
`06:54.27`	`Patlabor221`	`see ya all latorz`
`06:54.32`	`captain_proton`	`'night Patlabor221`
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