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04:03.54Patlabor221meow
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04:04.25Patlabor221what is up my homie
04:04.35Noodleman_nothing much
04:04.44Noodleman_http://asteriskpbx.com/
04:04.46Noodleman_w00t
04:04.49Noodleman_:-)
04:05.23Noodleman_v01p r0X0rZ
04:05.24Noodleman_:-)
04:05.27Patlabor221what is it?
04:05.42Noodleman_it is a private branch exchange
04:06.02Noodleman_at work we are using it to do voip long distance
04:06.39Patlabor221neat
04:07.12Noodleman_you can also do regular pbx stuff like switchboards and voicemail and stuff
04:08.00Patlabor221wow
04:09.26Noodleman_you can get a full-blown commercial pbx for the cost of a $199 microtel box and $150 for the set of fxz/fxo cards
04:09.38Noodleman_fxs
04:11.04Noodleman_you can call 1-541-389-1299 and bug sean (the operator) during the day :-)
04:11.45Noodleman_we are just implementing it, so don't be surprised if he makes any freddy's morgue jokes :-)
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04:13.44Noodleman_insult Noodlebot
04:13.44Noodlebotthy food is such as hath been belch'd upon by infected lungs, Noodlebot.
04:14.27Noodleman_i guess noodlebot blinked out when they gave me a static ip
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05:06.24Patlabor221wasn't there a site that would show where in the world an IP was located?
05:07.45Noodlemanthere is somewhere, but the ip has to have a special dns entry i believe
05:09.59Patlabor221I think that's needed for longetude and latitude
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06:13.12TimRiker~x en fr help me
06:13.28TimRiker~x fr de aidez-moi
06:13.51Noodleman~x de en helfen Sie es
06:13.57Noodleman:-)
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14:22.43rooter_thehello
14:22.56rooter_theChestal: Do you know that ducati is down?
14:25.13Chestalyes, just noticed. I assume that the admins are upgrading the machine or whatever
14:25.46rooter_thecool
14:27.40rooter_theIf anybody is interested... I started a ducati clone while the real one is down.  (webguy.westga.edu)
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17:12.58Jormungandrwhee.
17:13.34Patlabor2211how did it go?
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17:15.20ak|rahi
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17:15.34ak|ra:)
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17:16.03ak|rameans?
17:16.13Patlabor2211what'S UP
17:16.18Patlabor2211aka
17:16.18Jormungandrhaven't had meeting yet
17:16.19Patlabor2211sup
17:16.21Jormungandrstill waiting
17:16.26Patlabor2211joy
17:16.27Jormungandrdunno when it's gunna happen.
17:16.44ak|ranyx
17:16.45dougheckasup
17:16.48dougheckathe wky?
17:16.52dougheckasky*
17:17.05Patlabor2211you need a better respince to that
17:17.10dougheckahm
17:17.18Jormungandra better response, even.
17:17.22Patlabor2211like "not much G, howzit hangin with you?"
17:17.32dougheckahmm
17:18.34Patlabor2211hmmm wonder if windows can play a mp3 as a system event sound
17:18.53dougheckathat would be cool
17:19.28Patlabor2211no :(
17:19.33Jormungandrhrm. I seem to remember that sound recorder used to be able to play mp3s that were renamed to .wav
17:19.38Patlabor2211tho I could pobably make a cmomnent
17:19.51Patlabor2211wow I can't type today
17:20.04Jormungandrdude.. your fingers need a vacation.
17:20.04Jormungandr:)
17:20.07Patlabor2211well I got it in there
17:20.11Patlabor2211just won't play it
17:20.48Jormungandryou could always convert to wav
17:21.00Patlabor2211yeah but then it would be large
17:21.03Jormungandr:)
17:21.12Jormungandryou could TRY and rename .wav
17:21.16Patlabor2211did
17:21.18Jormungandrwindows used to support that.
17:21.19Patlabor2211still no go
17:21.22Jormungandrbummer
17:21.23Jormungandr:(
17:21.33Patlabor2211the sound player sends it thu the media decoder, that's why that works
17:21.41Jormungandrah
17:21.44Patlabor2211don't think the system does taht for all media just yet
17:21.57Patlabor2211like I say I could make a component
17:22.07Patlabor2211that installed a notification message handaler
17:22.34Patlabor2211since it is all wraped up in a common API
17:23.50Patlabor2211but it maters not, now that track 14 is on
17:25.14Patlabor2211track 14 makes all things good
17:25.30Patlabor2211doug, it would require external power
17:25.33dougheckayea
17:25.40dougheckaAA batterys or somethin
17:25.54Patlabor2211I have seen liitle ascii serial boxes
17:25.59Patlabor2211with keyboards on them
17:25.59dougheckahm
17:26.05Patlabor2211we have one here
17:26.11dougheckacool
17:26.11Patlabor2211but not like a full size keyboard
17:26.14dougheckaoh
17:26.19Patlabor2211little
17:26.42Patlabor2211it would have to have a computer in it to convert the key codes to ascii
17:27.00dougheckayea
17:27.11Patlabor2211what use would it be?
17:27.35dougheckaportable terminal
17:27.52Patlabor2211that's what this little serial box is
17:27.57Patlabor2211has like a 2 meg buffer too
17:28.00dougheckahmm
17:28.06Patlabor2211we use it to test CNC machines
17:28.10dougheckaah
17:28.12Patlabor2211since they do serial terminal stuff
17:28.20dougheckaand a tiny serial LCD
17:28.33Patlabor2211that's what's on it
17:29.02Patlabor2211it's kinda sad that all the machining tech used now, still relys on serial protocols made in the 60's
17:29.09dougheckahah
17:29.14Patlabor2211and some still use punched tape
17:29.53Patlabor2211our software will still measure a text file length in "feet" and "meters"
17:30.13dougheckaAHAHAHAH
17:30.39Patlabor2211there are many machines that express there memory limits in feet
17:31.02dougheckaMY computer has 90548734583748578 feet in memory
17:31.18Patlabor2211most CNC machines have less then a meg of mem
17:31.27dougheckahuh
17:31.45Patlabor2211they just use it for program storage
17:31.47Patlabor2211they are not PCs
17:31.54dougheckayea
17:32.00Patlabor2211meg or 2 is common
17:32.11Patlabor2211and upgrades are EXPENSIVE
17:32.22dougheckamy dad worked at a newpaper place that used tape
17:32.41Patlabor2211we have a tape punch around here somewhere
17:33.14dougheckathey would take the tape from the machine it was typed in, and if they where in a hurry, they would use pencils to string the tape around the building to the press
17:33.34dougheckanot press
17:33.36dougheckahmm
17:33.53dougheckaplate maker thing, I guess
17:33.54Patlabor2211I've seen similar things done with CNCs
17:34.01dougheckaheh
17:34.46Patlabor2211tho thankfully it seems popular these days to update those machines with an ethernet transcever
17:34.52Patlabor2211makes it easyer
17:34.55dougheckahah
17:34.58dougheckaI bet
17:35.10Patlabor2211little box with a serial port and a 10 base T port
17:35.14Patlabor2211and some mem
17:35.43dougheckacool
17:35.44dougheckabrb
17:39.29Patlabor2211hmmmm how are line circle intersections done
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18:42.20larsl~country .ly
18:42.21well, country .ly is lybia
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19:19.40captain_protonwhoa...
19:19.46captain_protonthe .hack// intro is in english
19:20.30captain_protonwell...
19:20.32captain_protonengrish anyways
19:20.58Patlabor2211yeah sorta
19:21.26captain_protondo you have a list of the episode titles?
19:21.47Patlabor2211at home proably
19:22.09Patlabor2211what do I need to install to do subs?
19:22.40Patlabor2211have lin installed
19:22.41captain_protontranscode & dvd::rip
19:23.31Patlabor2211ugg nuku needs more ram
19:24.53Patlabor22110.6.3?
19:24.57Patlabor2211for transcode?
19:25.20captain_protonyup
19:26.04Patlabor2211build transcode first?
19:27.22captain_protoni'd install an rpm
19:27.30Patlabor2211ohh I didn't see one
19:27.35Patlabor2211got source for them now
19:27.36captain_protonrpmfind.net
19:29.22Patlabor2211like transcode-0.6.3-fr2.i386.rpm?
19:29.33captain_protonsounds good
19:29.56captain_protontranscode needs a lot of libraries, so an rpm will ensure you get them all
19:30.25Patlabor2211not seeing an rpm for dvd::rip
19:30.30Patlabor2211just found a tarball for it
19:31.28captain_protonthats ok
19:31.53captain_protondvd::rip doesn't need all the libraries that transcode does
19:32.21Patlabor2211k
19:32.44Patlabor2211wonder if you can ssh in thru my port router
19:32.58Patlabor2211I had 223 route to 23 on that machine
19:33.27captain_protonssh is port 22
19:33.38Patlabor2211well then that may not work :)
19:34.07Patlabor2211oh I did 222 to 22
19:35.15Patlabor2211can you get to nuku-nuku.bakadigital.com:222 ?
19:35.49larsl~xmission
19:36.04larslcheater is unkillable.
19:36.22larslAnd can jump when he's in the air.
19:37.12Patlabor2211on it
19:37.35larslPlease, get his IP.
19:38.29Patlabor2211I did :)
19:38.41Patlabor2211added to ban list
19:38.52larslThanks. =)
19:40.44Patlabor2211no problem
19:40.50Patlabor2211had to ban his sub domain
19:40.52Patlabor2211but...
19:42.07Patlabor2211whoa cap, it says I need a ton of dependencys
19:42.39captain_protonyup :P
19:42.44Patlabor2211joy
19:42.46larslUse urpmi. =)
19:42.51Patlabor2211?
19:43.19larslOnly if you're on Mandrake, of course.
19:43.24Patlabor2211red hat
19:44.11Patlabor2211what is the dif between i386 and i686 again?
19:44.43larslLarger cache? More registers?
19:44.52Patlabor2211no as in RPMs
19:44.54Patlabor2211what one do I want?
19:44.55larslAh.
19:45.02larslWhat CPU do you have?
19:45.07Patlabor2211it's a duron
19:45.16larslYou probably want i686.
19:45.43larslUnless it's ancient.
19:46.04captain_protoni686 use all the newer instructions
19:46.12captain_protoni386 don't, so they're compatible all the way down
19:46.13Patlabor2211k
19:46.26Patlabor2211geting all the rpms for the dependencys
19:46.59larslPatlabor2211: Do you have to do that manually?
19:47.36Patlabor2211I'm using rpmfind.net
19:48.12larslBut you have to find and download the packages manually? The installer doesn't do it for you?
19:48.29Patlabor2211what installer
19:48.41Patlabor2211the rpm command told me what I needed
19:48.44Patlabor2211now I'm geting it
19:48.53larslurpmi gets it and installs it for you. =)
19:49.10Patlabor2211well I'm very happy for it, but I don't have that right now :)
19:50.16Patlabor2211actualy I think I could have used the X packagage manager to do it too
19:50.34Patlabor2211that they give you with redhat
19:59.08Patlabor2211and of course mplayer need a much of stuff :(
19:59.23larslDoes it?
19:59.32Patlabor2211[root@nuku-nuku JeffM]# rpm -Uhv mplayer-0.90-fr0.7rc5.i386.rpm
19:59.33Patlabor2211warning: mplayer-0.90-fr0.7rc5.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e42d547b
19:59.33Patlabor2211error: Failed dependencies:
19:59.33Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.33Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.33Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.35Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.37Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.37larslAh.
19:59.39Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.41Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.43Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.45Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.45larslDon't install the RPM, build from source.
19:59.47Patlabor2211<PROTECTED>
19:59.49Patlabor2211pain in ass
20:00.02larslThen it will use only what you have installed.
20:00.08Patlabor2211I think I still need those thing
20:00.22larslYou only need lirc if you have an IR remote control.
20:00.22Patlabor2211it's for cap, I should just make him do it :)
20:00.40larslYou don't need alsa-lib, you can use OSS emulation.
20:00.51larsletc.
20:01.03captain_protonlarsl: but a lot of those libraries he will want for transcode anyways
20:01.04larslThat is what RedHat has decided that you need. =)
20:01.11captain_protonlike...libdvdread
20:01.21Patlabor2211odd I did libdvdread
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20:02.00Celllo
20:02.36Patlabor2211or I didn't :)
20:08.25Patlabor2211hmmm aalib wants libslang
20:08.33Patlabor2211and lib slang wants' somtehing wierd
20:09.14larslThat's why I use urpmi. =)
20:09.14Patlabor2211wants libslang-utf8.so.1 is needed by ( installed ) newt-0.51.0-1
20:09.35Patlabor2211well I'm not redoing an os to rip a dvd
20:10.05captain_protonPatlabor2211: it wants you to upgrade newt, because newt relies on an older version of something you have installed
20:10.14Patlabor2211ohhh
20:10.15Patlabor2211ok
20:13.26Patlabor2211well crap I have a feeling this is just gonna snowball
20:14.09dougheckaNOOOOO, dont give in!
20:14.10doughecka:)
20:14.20Patlabor2211how is that giving in?
20:14.27Patlabor2211It will update all my packages
20:14.36dougheckaits EVIL!
20:14.42Patlabor2211have you ever used it?
20:14.46dougheckayea
20:14.55Patlabor2211and how is it evil?
20:14.55dougheckadint work, apt-get update rulez
20:15.22larslurpmi --auto-select =)
20:15.29dougheckaugh
20:15.40Patlabor2211rhn allways works for me
20:15.40dougheckaStart>Windows Update
20:15.49Patlabor2211what version of redhat
20:15.59captain_proton~sud
20:16.00shut up doug
20:16.06doughecka8
20:16.38Patlabor2211asgard runs the tool just fine
20:16.42Patlabor2211and has it's entitlement
20:17.21Patlabor2211did you read the error you got?
20:17.41dougheckano, only I dont want to download 20 gigs of updates
20:18.02dougheckaand selecting what I DO want doesnt seem to work
20:18.04Patlabor2211so why do you use windows then?
20:18.43dougheckaPatlabor2211: hmm, till linux can play all the winders games, I wont use linux on my desktop
20:18.54Patlabor2211what games?
20:19.12dougheckasubspace for one
20:19.17dougheckaand other older games
20:19.17Patlabor2211winx?
20:19.24Patlabor2211that's gonna be never man
20:19.31dougheckasubspace?
20:19.39Patlabor2211it's basic DX
20:19.41Patlabor2211it may work
20:19.49dougheckahm
20:19.57dougheckaI think I tried winex, dint work
20:20.23Patlabor2211then your on windows forever
20:20.34Patlabor2211cus there will allways be something that dosnt' work
20:20.34dougheckahuh
20:22.02Patlabor2211so all you ever do on computers is play games?
20:22.12dougheckano
20:22.14dougheckaand photoshop
20:22.18dougheckaillustrator
20:22.22dougheckagolive
20:22.28Patlabor2211wonder if photshop works in wine
20:22.56captain_protonno
20:23.07captain_protondoughecka: do you own licenses for all that software?
20:23.14dougheckacaptain_proton: actully yes
20:23.26dougheckaone of the few licences around here :)
20:23.28Patlabor2211no your dad does :)
20:23.33dougheckaPatlabor2211: blehg
20:23.39dougheckasame diference
20:23.45Patlabor2211not legaly
20:23.51captain_protonnot necessarily
20:23.51Celltry the sobel operator: http://www9.in.tum.de/skripten/WS0203BV/WS0203BvHTML/Demo1/classes/HtmlDateien/Sobel.html
20:23.59Patlabor2211how many times have you installed it?
20:24.06dougheckaumm, once
20:24.14Patlabor2211right
20:24.24dougheckabut if I dont run more than one copy at a time, its still legal
20:24.26captain_protoneek, its java
20:24.30captain_protondoughecka: no, its not
20:24.30Cellyeah
20:24.36Patlabor2211well time get some food
20:24.41captain_protonyou can only have it -installed- on one machine
20:24.41dougheckaMmmm, food
20:24.45captain_protonif you only have one license
20:24.46Cellfood
20:24.57dougheckawhy wont photoshop run on linux?
20:25.12Cellhm because it uses win32
20:25.15Patlabor2211cus they haven't built for for it
20:25.19Patlabor2211cell, not exactly
20:25.20dougheckain wine?
20:25.25Patlabor2211it's abstracted
20:25.26captain_protonCell: is that just a translation+comparator filter?
20:25.33Patlabor2211since the same sourcebase works on mac as well
20:25.44Cellcaptain_proton: edge detection filter
20:25.51Patlabor2211actualy there api implements the mac API on windows :)
20:25.56Patlabor2211like my comany does
20:26.03captain_protonCell: yeah, i know, but it looks like its just doing a translation then comparing with the original
20:26.09dougheckalol
20:26.25Cellcaptain_proton:donno :)
20:26.45captain_protonif so, then its a WUSSY edge-detector =)
20:26.57Cellah
20:27.23dougheckahmm, if they got photoshop to run on OS X, all linux needs is a color control system and adobe would problebly support it
20:27.43captain_protondoughecka: uh, no
20:27.55Celli want to use the WUSSY or Sobel operator on a 3d model
20:28.16dougheckacaptain_proton: yea yea, they problebly wouldnt, but IF :)
20:28.22captain_protonjust because osx uses a mach kernel doesn't mean any of its software is easily portable to other 'nix type operating systems
20:28.39dougheckayea
20:28.52Cellmach :) read that in tanenbaum book
20:29.02dougheckabut its so diferent from OS 9 and winders, I bet they could get it running on linux
20:29.12captain_protonugh
20:29.31captain_proton~sud
20:29.31shut up doug
20:31.48dougheckabzflag?
20:32.00captain_protonbzflag is boring
20:32.26doughecka*GASP*
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20:36.37captain_protonunless of course...
20:37.07captain_protonnope
20:37.34Patlabor2211wana make me a font tool :)
20:38.09captain_protonnope
20:38.27dougheckahes too _bored_
20:38.37Patlabor2211hey can't hurt to ask
20:39.03captain_protondoughecka: i don't see you writing him a font tool
20:39.17dougheckacaptain_proton: you cant see nothin
20:39.35Patlabor2211cap didn't you make something that renderd the image, and did the font metrics?
20:39.50captain_protonhmmm
20:39.58captain_protonthat sounds vaguely almost familiar...
20:40.00Patlabor2211using SDLIMage
20:40.04Patlabor2211or something like that
20:40.24dougheckahmm, vaguely almost familiar
20:40.44Patlabor2211ok base packages updating, hopefully this will help some of the things install
20:41.01captain_protonPatlabor2211: i think i stopped on that when we switched jstream over to picogui
20:41.02Patlabor2211then we can get to makin the nuku-nuku stuff
20:41.15Patlabor2211do you have the code still?
20:41.39Patlabor2211if so could I perhaps gankify it?
20:41.55doughecka~dint gankify
20:41.56captain_protondon't see it :P
20:42.06Patlabor2211ohh and Rahephon 1-5 is up in the server
20:42.10Patlabor2211I think you would like them
20:42.34dougheckajoin to kill me
20:43.44Patlabor2211well I was meaning cap, but you may like them, I dono, you may not.
20:44.02Patlabor2211has musical themes in the story, you will say it's crap
20:44.31dougheckahmm, I dont see your server in the list
20:44.35doughecka:P
20:44.38montasiris there anyone playing now
20:44.57Patlabor2211~bzfslist
20:44.57dougheckamontasir: or course not, we just lurk
20:45.28dougheckamontasir: if we did, we couldnt answer.. ;)
20:45.28Patlabor2211doug dosn't have a mouse so he can't play
20:45.38doughecka!
20:46.16Patlabor2211dont' see your team toping ye olde leauge charts
20:46.32dougheckathat took you.... 30 seconds to type that
20:46.40Patlabor2211huh?
20:46.44Patlabor2211no
20:46.53Patlabor2211there was frechfry's in the middle as well
20:46.59dougheckaPatlabor2211 must be from another time
20:47.04Patlabor2211and sweet and sour sauce :)
20:47.09dougheckaah
20:47.12dougheckahmm
20:47.15Patlabor2211aka lunch
20:47.26dougheckafrench frys and sweet and sour sauce?
20:47.42Patlabor2211awwwwwww yeah!!!!!!
20:47.54dougheckanothing else?
20:48.03Patlabor2211well some mcnugets
20:48.06Patlabor2211and a qpc
20:48.09dougheckaah
20:48.15dougheckaMmmm
20:48.24captain_protonhm, food...
20:48.32Patlabor2211fish!
20:48.49Patlabor2211found out a sad fact about the red dward DVDs
20:48.55Patlabor2211only 2 a year
20:48.59dougheckalol
20:49.03Patlabor2211so we don't get season 3 till feb :(
20:50.44Patlabor2211ahh good the map format makes sense now
20:50.57Patlabor2211I sadly caryed over a stupid thing from bz
20:51.18captain_proton?
20:51.39captain_protondoughecka is starting to sound like cell
20:51.47Patlabor2211that he is
20:51.57Patlabor2211ohh I kept the scale the same way as it was in bz
20:51.59dougheckaor is cell sounding like me?
20:52.03Patlabor2211and that was lame
20:52.12Patlabor2211so I changed it to be consistent in each axis
20:52.32Patlabor2211the scale is the total size of the object in that axis
20:52.44Patlabor2211at least for the bz type objects
20:53.15Patlabor2211hmmm the flagpole dosn't have good normals :(
20:53.16captain_protondoughecka: just give up, you will never be 'cool'
20:54.24Patlabor2211awww now you made him cry..... good for you :)
20:55.03Patlabor2211do you need klenex?
20:55.29dougheckano, I got the snot on the floor now
20:57.52Patlabor2211Time to do the weakly  "make sure it sill builds on linux" build
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21:00.00doughecka'lo
21:00.04bzgirlhi
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21:05.25doughecka'lo
21:06.30ak|raji
21:06.42dougheckahm
21:08.19captain_protonwhat odd conversations they have in #crystalspace
21:08.50Jormungandrwork meeting went okay. was anticlimactic.
21:08.53captain_protondoughecka: you're so...um...clever?
21:09.03dougheckaLOL
21:09.05Jormungandr"don't do that again" sort of thing.
21:09.10dougheckaJormungandr: for what?
21:09.16Patlabor2211no signing?
21:09.19ChestalJorm: hmm, so still not free?
21:09.21Jormungandrnope.
21:09.25Jormungandrnot free :)
21:09.44Jormungandrbut, he did say taht the bastard CTO wanted to write us up.
21:09.51Jormungandrand he told him that was BS
21:10.02Jormungandrso, I feel better about things for now.
21:10.06Jormungandrstill job hunting though.
21:10.20dougheckaJormungandr: ick, you got fired?
21:10.39Jormungandrdoug... basically, went to bathroom and other person in room wasn't logged into the phones. we were not logged in for about 3 minutes.
21:10.44Jormungandrno.. just yelled at.
21:11.20JormungandrI was going to quit on principal if they would have brought a written warning down.
21:11.35dougheckalol
21:11.37Chestalhmm, I receive more spam than ever
21:11.51Jormungandrchestal, use spamassassin.
21:11.54Jormungandrworks awesome
21:12.08ChestalJormungandr: I use my own filter, so most of the spam doesn't make it into my inbox
21:12.20JormungandrI've had maybe 2 spams get through this month. has deleted about 300 or more.
21:12.29Chestalbut the amoutn of mails which is filtered into my spam folder seems to have increased lately
21:12.35Jormungandrah
21:12.38Jormungandryeah. same here.
21:12.54ChestalI checked thre spam folder 4 hours ago, and now it contains 12 fresh ones
21:14.52ak|ra:)
21:14.58ak|raChestal: what do you take?
21:14.58Chestalhmm, just thought that one slipped through, but it actually wasn't spam
21:15.05Chestalak|ra: my own stochastic spam filter
21:15.21ak|raprocmail?
21:15.54Chestalwell, procmail calls my filter, yes
21:16.05captain_protonyay, my thexy breadboards came
21:18.52Chestalhmm, what exactly is an Internship?
21:19.20ak|rapraktikum
21:19.38Jormungandrit's sort of an on the job training sort of thing where you go to work for a company and get everyone's coffee that do things in the job that your training for. ;)
21:19.53ak|raJormungandr: its what i said in german
21:19.59Chestalhmm, why is someone from India contacting me for something like that?
21:20.09ak|raChestal: coz you rock? :)
21:20.21JormungandrI didn't get the coffee inflection, ak|ra ;)
21:21.00captain_protonChestal: probably just out of school and they don't realize that spamming is bad
21:21.41Chestalhe must have visitied my university homepage, because the mail was sent to my work address, spammes don't use that address normally
21:22.04ChestalI don#t know why, but they don't :-)
21:22.38Patlabor2211hmmm animated models segfault on lin, but work fine on windows
21:22.59captain_protonyaay for quicktest breadboards
21:23.25Patlabor2211how are they difrent from normal breadboards?
21:24.02captain_protonthey're higher quality, and they're sort of modular, so you can join a bunch together to make a big one
21:24.10ak|racrap -> emerge mutt was _without_ imap support .. what the hell ..
21:24.11Patlabor2211oh neat
21:24.53captain_protonak|ra: use flags?
21:24.59Patlabor2211how do I get the call stack at the point of a seg fault again?
21:25.30Chestaldo you have a core file? then use gdb <program> <core> ; bt
21:25.31ak|racaptain_proton: correct
21:25.43Patlabor2211what is a core file?
21:25.48ak|rabut imap + ssl should be the default .. pop3 without anything just sucks
21:26.22ChestalPatlabor: a file containing the crashed process' address space
21:26.45ak|ramuhahahr, my ccache works just perfect with a recompile
21:26.49Patlabor2211chestal, don't know if I do or not, how would it have been created?
21:26.55ChestalPatlabor: but per default it probably isn't written
21:27.07Chestalautomatically, 'segmentation fault, core dumped'
21:27.21Chestalulimit for coredumpsize probably is set to 0 which prevents creaton of core file
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21:27.49Patlabor2211when it crashes it says Ftal Signal : segmentation fault (SDL parachute deployed)
21:28.20Patlabor2211I thought there was something with a Trace command or something
21:28.46Chestalyou can try and run it under debugegr control
21:28.55Chestalgdb <myprogram> for example
21:29.30ChestalSDL obviously installs its own signal handelr for SIGSEGV, dont know how to use that
21:29.35Patlabor2211tells me that myapp was not a core dump file
21:29.56Chestaleh, just "gdb myapp" ?
21:30.25Patlabor2211oh had it wring
21:30.37captain_protonChestal: even though SDL installs a handler, gdb will catch it first
21:30.57Patlabor2211ok it's in, how do I tell it to go
21:31.05Patlabor2211just says (gdb) now
21:31.07Chestalproton: but it would probably never create a core dump file, even if the limit would be increased
21:31.22Chestalrun
21:31.32dougheckasee Chestal run
21:31.33Patlabor2211hey I guessed right
21:31.36dougheckarun Chestal run!
21:32.15captain_protonChestal: true
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21:33.57Chestalgrmpf, still no galeon 1.2.9 in sid
21:36.05captain_protongaleon 1.3 is cooler
21:39.50ChestalI'm using it now, but I don't liek some thigns about it
21:42.58Patlabor2211now gdb is prety cool
21:43.54ak|raopera + konqueror beats mozilla + flavours always :)
21:44.34captain_protonugh
21:45.12ak|raPatlabor2211: discovering unixtools? :)
21:46.02Patlabor2211well just trying to find a segfault
21:46.14Patlabor2211first time I ever ran gdb
21:46.23ak|raPatlabor2211: :))
21:46.27Patlabor2211it's nice, instead of printf's
21:46.31ak|radiscovering unix tools :)
21:46.33ak|raPatlabor2211: :))
21:46.38Patlabor2211still would prefrer F9 and F10 stepin
21:46.49ak|raif you like guifrontend -> ddd or kdbg i like a bit
21:47.06Patlabor2211I do prefer a gui on it
21:47.13Patlabor2211like to see my code as I step :)
21:47.13ak|ratry ddd
21:47.18ak|raor kdbg
21:47.29Patlabor2211I shall, I think I found the problem tho
21:47.46Patlabor2211my UT file loading code is not that robust in it's OS independence
21:48.16Patlabor2211since UT for some reason chose to use 3 files for each model
21:48.20ak|raPatlabor2211: :) initialisation is the key
21:48.27Patlabor2211not counting the textures ( up to 5)
21:48.29Patlabor2211no it's not that
21:48.39Patlabor2211it can't load one of the files right
21:48.48Patlabor2211I can't realy use UT files anyway since they don't have nomrals
21:49.01Patlabor2211it's pathname stuff
21:49.55Patlabor2211some of the pathnames are stored inside one of the UT files
21:50.01Patlabor2211and they are wonders centric
22:03.21ak|racaptain_proton: its a bug in the mutt ebuild
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22:42.29Cellshit cannot find the script about database systems
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23:49.51Patlabor2211wow that good animated flag is a poly hog
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