irclog2html for #bzflag on 20030314

`00:01.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`sounds cool`
`00:02.17`	`Patlabor2211`	`wold that be a "Linuxologist"? :)`
`00:04.52`	`captain_proton`	`TimRiker: nifty`
`00:04.56`	`TimRiker`	`heh. maybe they'll put that on my business cards.`
`00:05.07`	`captain_proton`	`scanline got an email from TI asking about LGPLing picogui - will you be in on that?`
`00:06.15`	`TimRiker`	`perhaps, yes.`
`00:07.02`	`TimRiker`	`get a viewsonic smart display and hack it. ;-)`
`00:07.35`	`Patlabor2211`	`been looking at the viewsoic Vt100 thingy`
`00:07.46`	`TimRiker`	`too pricy, but cool.`
`00:07.56`	`Patlabor2211`	`yeaht thats my problem`
`00:08.16`	`Patlabor2211`	`been thinking about canablaising a normal laptop into something like that`
`00:09.17`	`TimRiker`	`no ts on a laptop`
`00:10.01`	`doughecka`	`problem is there isnt a gui for linux on them yet`
`00:11.31`	`Patlabor2211`	`you could poirt pico to windows CD`
`00:11.32`	`Patlabor2211`	`CE`
`00:11.37`	`Patlabor2211`	`the dev kit is free`
`00:12.33`	`Patlabor2211`	`optimaly I'd like a tablet PC built into a guantlet I cold wear`
`00:12.39`	`Patlabor2211`	`that would be the best`
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`01:47.48`	`Noodleman`	`moo`
`01:47.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`blorp`
`01:48.22`	`doughecka`	`huh, blowing up caps are loud`
`01:48.22`	`Patlabor2211`	`noodle want to see my mock up for a new improved bzbb?`
`01:48.51`	`Noodleman`	`Patlabor2211: sure`
`01:48.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/sometin.png`
`01:49.03`	`Patlabor2211`	`fiber seems to like it`
`01:49.12`	`Patlabor2211`	`now we have to figure out how to implement it`
`01:49.24`	`Noodleman`	`kewl`
`01:49.26`	`Noodleman`	`i like it`
`01:49.45`	`Patlabor2211`	`proalbly change the logo too`
`01:50.08`	`Patlabor2211`	`I realy like the top end poll and the latest posts things`
`01:50.15`	`Noodleman`	`if you need logo help, i'm game, but you are perty good at that there photoshop thingy :-)`
`01:50.32`	`Patlabor2211`	`well I don't do that one there duko did`
`01:50.39`	`Patlabor2211`	`I may do something like I did for the bze site.`
`01:51.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`his logo is a bit to dark for a white background tho`
`01:51.44`	`Patlabor2211`	`and well it's kinda booring`
`01:52.44`	`Noodleman`	`is there a tute somewhere that says how to do that concrete and metal stuff you did on the bz:zero page?`
`01:52.56`	`Patlabor2211`	`I didn't do those`
`01:52.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`stock art`
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`01:53.02`	`Patlabor2211`	`well let me see`
`01:53.04`	`Patlabor2211`	`it may be me`
`01:53.09`	`Patlabor2211`	`steel is easy`
`01:53.17`	`Patlabor2211`	`motion blued noise`
`01:53.34`	`Noodleman`	`i know how to do that`
`01:53.43`	`Patlabor2211`	`but yeah those were from a pd texture`
`01:53.50`	`Noodleman`	`ah`
`01:54.08`	`Patlabor2211`	`it's Realy nice concrete tho :)`
`01:54.14`	`Noodleman`	`yes, indeed`
`01:54.42`	`Patlabor2211`	`man I remember seeing a site that showed how to do all that too`
`01:55.02`	`Patlabor2211`	`frined of mine knows where it is, I'll ask him for it when he gets in tomrow`
`01:59.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`oooohhhh the hovertank physics are coming along nicely`
`02:00.01`	`Patlabor2211`	`very nicely`
`02:03.04`	`Patlabor2211`	`I ad tilt and I should be able too hockey stop these things`
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`02:07.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`well of to the geekorium`
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`04:30.06`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Where is Jeff?`
`04:30.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~seen Patlabor221`
`04:30.22`		`patlabor221 <~JeffM@adsl-64-167-77-250.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 22h 36m 29s ago, saying: 'jobness?'.`
`04:32.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`n\m`
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`04:57.38`	`Noodleman`	`moo`
`05:06.02`	`Noodleman`	`http://www.noodleroni.com/beercontest.php`
`05:12.42`	`captain_proton`	`Noodleman: =)`
`05:12.49`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`05:12.57`	`Noodleman`	`gunna make a submission????`
`05:15.21`	`captain_proton`	`yep`
`05:17.23`	`Noodleman`	`kewl`
`05:17.44`	`Noodleman`	`i submitted a /. story`
`05:17.53`	`Noodleman`	`maybe they'll accept it ;-)`
`05:25.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh, look at my server :) Flag city!`
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`05:53.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have a problem people`
`05:53.42`	`Noodleman`	`moof?`
`05:53.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have made a g1 server, yet no one can connect`
`05:54.10`	`Noodleman`	`what server is it?`
`05:54.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Is it because of the differences in clients?`
`05:54.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It has my name on it`
`05:54.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`creeperz' Realm`
`05:54.52`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`...CRAP! Lol, I'm not playing "home", I'm playing Castle! Heh`
`05:54.56`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`lol`
`05:55.04`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`That's not the problem though`
`05:55.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Why can't anyone conenct?`
`05:55.16`	`Noodleman`	`your server doesn't show up on the list`
`05:55.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Really?`
`05:55.34`	`Noodleman`	`pm me with the command-line you use to start the server`
`05:55.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm... IP is: 24.220.78.178`
`05:55.56`	`Noodleman`	`port?`
`05:56.00`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`5155`
`05:56.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Default`
`05:56.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`05:56.33`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Not let you in?`
`05:56.39`	`Noodleman`	`nope`
`05:56.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I saw ;)`
`05:56.49`	`Noodleman`	`"Communication error joining a game"`
`05:57.09`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm, it say Write error in my DOS window`
`05:57.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I hate ME`
`05:57.24`	`Noodleman`	`do you have any firewall software running?`
`05:57.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No`
`05:57.39`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Don't have a firewall`
`05:57.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Never will in fact`
`05:57.56`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`...I don't like them`
`05:57.57`	`Noodleman`	`you behind a gateway or anything?`
`05:58.03`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`?`
`05:58.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`gateway?`
`05:58.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`"anything"?`
`05:58.33`	`Noodleman`	`you probably don't then`
`05:58.39`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`05:58.41`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`heh`
`05:58.43`	`Noodleman`	`~dict gateway`
`05:59.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmm, cheater on happypenguin I think`
`05:59.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Judging by his callsign, numbers boy is there!`
`05:59.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I had him as a guest on my server yesterday :)`
`05:59.39`	`Noodleman`	`kill number boy!!`
`05:59.42`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`...He is no longer welcome`
`05:59.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`05:59.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have 2 IP's to banlist`
`06:00.00`	`Noodleman`	`i'd like to wring his and spooge's neck`
`06:00.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`yes`
`06:00.25`	`Noodleman`	`then emasculate them`
`06:00.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`And that stupid SpongeBob SpermPants`
`06:00.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`He was on Hix today`
`06:00.48`	`Noodleman`	`~dict emasculate`
`06:01.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`He kept taking red flag (mine) to other bases`
`06:01.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`And TKing`
`06:01.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`OH well, I just do a simple g0 server tonight`
`06:01.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I solve the problem early in the morning`
`06:01.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`GN!`
`06:01.51`	`Noodleman`	`l8r`
`06:02.20`	`captain_proton`	`Noodleman: how do i submit? :)`
`06:02.49`	`Noodleman`	`send to tucker-submissions@noodleroni.com`
`06:03.09`	`captain_proton`	`alrighty`
`06:03.16`	`captain_proton`	`just gotta format the source code nicely =)`
`06:03.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Noodle: You DO have g1 when you tried to connect to my server?`
`06:03.36`	`Noodleman`	`no, i have g0`
`06:03.43`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`06:03.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Anyone with g1?`
`06:03.56`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ANYONE?`
`06:04.02`	`Noodleman`	`g1 doesn't break the protocol, tho`
`06:04.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Please connect to my server`
`06:04.11`	`Noodleman`	`it should work`
`06:04.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So it should corrospond with g0?`
`06:04.25`	`Noodleman`	`yup`
`06:04.29`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`06:04.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Well, I need to get to bed... mom won't stop screaming at me!`
`06:04.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`GN`
`06:04.53`	`Noodleman`	`l8r`
`06:05.22`	`stibnite`	`hrm, is 'MSVCP60.dll not found' a common error with bzedit on win2k?`
`06:05.54`	`Noodleman`	`errors are a common occurence on windows, yes :-)`
`06:05.59`	`stibnite`	`yeah no kidding`
`06:06.08`	`stibnite`	`I haven't been on windows in 4 months`
`06:06.22`	`Noodleman`	`i envy you :-)`
`06:06.36`	`stibnite`	`any guesses about that problem?`
`06:06.53`	`stibnite`	`other than "perhaps it can't find msvcp60.dll" ??`
`06:07.03`	`Noodleman`	`you can google for it`
`06:07.28`	`Noodleman`	`~google msvcp60.dll`
`06:07.29`	`stibnite`	`yeah done that, was hoping that somebody has had this specific problem`
`06:07.43`	`Noodleman`	`insult ibot`
`06:07.43`	`Noodlebot`	`ibot, thy brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit at the end of a voyage.`
`06:07.44`		`Noodlebot: okay`
`06:07.56`	`Noodleman`	`~thy brain`
`06:07.57`		`[thy brain] as dry as the remainder biscuit at the end of a voyage.`
`06:08.03`	`Noodleman`	`lol`
`06:11.56`	`Noodleman`	`my sister is an 31337 h4x0r`
`06:12.05`	`Noodleman`	`cough, cough`
`06:13.06`	`captain_proton`	`Noodleman: sent =)`
`06:13.11`	`Noodleman`	`cool`
`06:13.16`	`Noodleman`	`let's take a look...`
`06:13.19`	`captain_proton`	`my entry is damn scary`
`06:14.42`	`Noodleman`	`where do i get sml-nj?`
`06:15.41`	`captain_proton`	`eek wait, i might have made a mistake`
`06:16.37`	`captain_proton`	`arg, i did make a mistake`
`06:16.42`	`captain_proton`	`hang on a couple minutes :)`
`06:16.47`	`Noodleman`	`okie`
`06:17.27`	`captain_proton`	`in its current state it will print "0 bottle of beer on the wall"`
`06:17.35`	`Noodleman`	`ah`
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`06:22.40`	`stibnite`	`hrm, ok got it.`
`06:24.30`	`stibnite`	`what would I have to do to change a particular pyramid to a shoot-through transparent pyramid (from the kind that you can camp under and not be hit)`
`06:24.42`	`captain_proton`	`ugh, now to reformat the source`
`06:24.51`	`stibnite`	`I'm trying to eliminate an abused map feature`
`06:28.27`	`Noodleman`	`captain_proton: yes, that bites`
`06:29.44`	`captain_proton`	`Noodleman: resent`
`06:29.56`	`Noodleman`	`captain_proton: ok`
`06:30.05`	`captain_proton`	`Noodleman: http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/what/smlnj/`
`06:30.17`	`Noodleman`	`captain_proton: yeah, i found it`
`06:31.25`	`Noodleman`	`i'll have to look into it`
`06:31.44`	`captain_proton`	`its the successor to lisp`
`06:32.04`	`captain_proton`	`aww, i have to keep my code sekret until may 1?`
`06:32.31`	`Noodleman`	`yup, that's the ruulz :-(`
`06:33.21`	`Noodleman`	`i have a compelling urge to show everybody my 99-bottles proggie, but then they'd get big ideas`
`06:33.26`	`Noodleman`	`:-)`
`06:33.47`	`captain_proton`	`hmm, up to 3 submissions, eh?`
`06:33.52`	`Noodleman`	`yup`
`06:34.12`	`Noodleman`	`write one in malbolge :-P`
`06:35.24`	`captain_proton`	`maybe unlambda =)`
`06:36.03`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`06:38.17`	`Noodleman`	`captain_proton: how do i compile this?`
`06:38.33`	`captain_proton`	`Noodleman: don't compile it - run sml and paste`
`06:38.39`	`Noodleman`	`oooohh`
`06:38.43`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`06:39.44`	`Noodleman`	`there's a space between the T and the ake`
`06:39.54`	`captain_proton`	`ug`
`06:39.55`	`Noodleman`	`thought you'd like to know that`
`06:40.34`	`captain_proton`	`can you replace line 20 with "; p "ake one " ; p" ?`
`06:40.46`	`Noodleman`	`will do`
`06:41.34`	`Noodleman`	`better :-)`
`06:43.49`	`Noodleman`	`if /. decides to accept my story, i'll have maybe a couple 1000 submissions :-)`
`06:44.02`	`captain_proton`	`probably a lot more than that`
`06:44.26`	`Noodleman`	`yikes :-)`
`06:44.34`	`captain_proton`	`hm?`
`06:44.54`	`captain_proton`	`just afraid of 50k entries?`
`06:45.02`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`06:45.20`	`Noodleman`	`well, i'm sure not all of the people that would be visiting the page are coders`
`06:45.35`	`captain_proton`	`true, but slashdot traffic is huge`
`06:45.49`	`Noodleman`	`w00, at least i'm not using sendmail :-)`
`06:45.54`	`captain_proton`	`and you'd get lots of crap entries from kids who know only a little`
`06:46.00`	`Noodleman`	`yeah`
`06:46.09`	`captain_proton`	`whats wrong with sendmail?`
`06:46.45`	`Noodleman`	`it's a big bloated pile of bailing-wire and chewing gum that trips over itself under heavy loads`
`06:46.51`	`Noodleman`	`:-)`
`06:46.57`	`captain_proton`	`only if configured wrong`
`06:47.16`	`captain_proton`	`sendmail has higher throughput than anything else if you've got a real config`
`06:47.16`	`Noodleman`	`there was just a r00t exploit for sendmail too`
`06:48.23`	`Noodleman`	`qmail has never had any security problems that weren't inherent to smtp itself`
`06:49.25`	`Noodleman`	`the author even has a $500 bounty on any security holes`
`06:49.27`	`Noodleman`	`http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html`
`06:49.43`	`captain_proton`	`all i know is that sendmail gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside`
`06:49.46`	`captain_proton`	`like swallowing a kitten`
`06:49.48`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`06:49.52`	`Noodleman`	`LOL`
`06:51.57`	`Noodleman`	`"them big-ol' rattlesnakes just latched onto each other's tails and started a-swallerin'"`
`06:52.22`	`Noodleman`	`"and then poof they swallered each other"`
`06:53.33`	`captain_proton`	`=)`
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`06:54.48`	`Noodleman`	`moo`
`07:02.36`	`Noodleman`	`geez, when pat said 3.7 fortnights to compile X gnome and kde, he wasn't kidding!`
`07:02.59`	`Noodleman`	`it's still going`
`07:03.05`	`Noodleman`	`35 hours later`
`07:03.44`	`Noodleman`	`shoulda used distcc`
`07:03.44`	`hardwire`	`on a what?!`
`07:03.56`	`Noodleman`	`800 mhz`
`07:04.14`	`hardwire`	`yeah.. distcc rulex0rs`
`07:04.58`	`Noodleman`	`gentoo sure takes a while to get going`
`07:05.06`	`Noodleman`	`i hope it's worth it`
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`08:04.36`	`Briareus`	`damn proton i had no idea this was here`
`08:12.24`	`Briareus`	`captain_proton: our boulder bzmaster decksman`
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`08:19.27`	`ak\|ra`	`und hei`
`08:19.37`	`Briareus`	`hi`
`08:21.38`	`captain_proton`	`Noodleman: i just got the most evil idea...`
`08:21.49`	`*** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 \|\| http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://list.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag \|\| http://stats.bzflag.org/ is back \|\| "I don't know what happened, but we seem to have taken on a lot of clocks" \|\| "i sure do like cows" (noodleman) \| http://www.noodleroni.com/beercontest.php`
`08:21.59`	`ak\|ra`	`captain_proton: heyho`
`08:22.06`	`captain_proton`	`ak\|ra: 'lo`
`08:22.12`	`ak\|ra`	`i removed sdl dependency from NuppelWriter :)`
`08:22.18`	`captain_proton`	`nifty`
`08:22.26`	`captain_proton`	`talked at all with the nuppel folks about lgpl?`
`08:22.52`	`ak\|ra`	`now i m thinking about rewriting your NuppelWriter.cpp into a normal c-file`
`08:23.00`	`ak\|ra`	`lgpl: not yet`
`08:23.08`	`captain_proton`	`wait...`
`08:23.12`	`ak\|ra`	`but it grabs really great :))`
`08:23.13`	`captain_proton`	`where does NuppelWriter depend on sdl?`
`08:23.23`	`ak\|ra`	`NuppelWriter -> SDL_GetTicks`
`08:23.28`	`captain_proton`	`ahhhh`
`08:23.36`	`ak\|ra`	`but i took the sdl code direct`
`08:23.57`	`ak\|ra`	`GetTicks is also just a wrapper for gettimeofday`
`08:24.06`	`ak\|ra`	`or rdtsc`
`08:26.51`	`ak\|ra`	`whats noodle contest?`
`08:27.13`	`captain_proton`	`look at the topic`
`08:27.58`	`ak\|ra`	`beercontest?`
`08:28.29`	`captain_proton`	`yah`
`08:28.39`	`captain_proton`	`little obfuscated programming contest`
`08:29.34`	`ak\|ra`	`:)))`
`08:40.52`	`ak\|ra`	`captain_proton: let me guess -> 99pico beers ?`
`08:43.25`	`captain_proton`	`huh?`
`09:00.54`	`ak\|ra`	`your part for the contest?`
`09:01.01`	`ak\|ra`	`opengl stuff within picogui?`
`09:03.26`	`captain_proton`	`ohh nono, just text mode`
`09:03.43`	`ak\|ra`	`:))`
`09:03.48`	`ak\|ra`	`aalib?`
`09:04.10`	`captain_proton`	`prints out text`
`09:04.20`	`captain_proton`	`of course i needed to use a functional language =)`
`09:09.23`	`ak\|ra`	`ruby?`
`09:09.27`	`ak\|ra`	`:=)`
`09:11.48`	`*** part/#bzflag Briareus (~Briareus@ppp-168-253-11-226.den1.ip.ricochet.net)`
`09:15.27`	`captain_proton`	`ak\|ra: sml`
`09:15.53`	`ak\|ra`	`i dont know sml`
`09:16.03`	`ak\|ra`	`something like caml?`
`09:17.15`	`captain_proton`	`yep`
`09:34.00`	`ak\|ra`	`rox?`
`11:14.43`	`*** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-202-1-3-240.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`11:19.22`	`*** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-117-18.hispeed.ch)`
`11:42.53`	`ak\|ra`	`someone has an example for GL_NV_pixel_data_range ?`
`15:17.47`	`*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@host-178-78-220-24.midco.net)`
`15:18.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Who can help me?`
`15:18.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`With my server`
`15:18.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It appears no but me can join`
`15:18.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Probally because...well, it's local to me. Who can help?`
`15:19.26`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Might there be a problem with the public address? It appears correct`
`15:19.39`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm, I put up .conf file`
`15:19.42`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`...`
`15:21.29`	`*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@host-178-78-220-24.midco.net)`
`15:21.58`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What is the problem?`
`15:23.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Anyone can help me?`
`15:28.11`	`*** join/#bzflag ISFry (~Fry@65.168.86.30)`
`15:29.13`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Anyone help me`
`15:56.19`	`*** join/#bzflag faz___ (~faz@M288P024.dipool.highway.telekom.at)`
`16:04.41`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Good morning :)`
`16:09.11`	`*** join/#bzflag Cell (~alton@pD9590EB4.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`16:23.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Can anyone help me?`
`16:23.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`With the above problem?`
`16:23.57`	`[dmp]`	`Do you use some kind of firewalling software/hardware?`
`16:24.17`	`[dmp]`	`Which public ip is there server at?`
`16:24.41`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No`
`16:24.54`	`*** join/#bzflag Patlabor2211 (~JeffM@208.48.199.214)`
`16:24.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I will put the server up now... even my g0 serevr won't let people in`
`16:25.14`	`[dmp]`	`Do you run any other services?`
`16:25.33`	`doughecka`	`hes running ME`
`16:25.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`16:25.42`	`[dmp]`	`Have you tried starting the server with a few -d to get more output`
`16:25.51`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have 2`
`16:26.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`16:26.06`	`[dmp]`	`What is the ip/port of the server?`
`16:26.06`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~sud`
`16:26.07`		`shut up doug`
`16:26.26`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`24.220.78.178:5155`
`16:26.31`	`doughecka`	`~bzfquery 24.220.78.178:5155`
`16:26.38`	`doughecka`	`well it can access it`
`16:26.40`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It won't let anyone in`
`16:26.43`	`Patlabor2211`	`ibot was able to log in`
`16:26.44`		`Patlabor2211: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?`
`16:26.52`	`doughecka`	`'lo Patlabor2211`
`16:26.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`heh`
`16:26.57`	`[dmp]`	`i'll try to connect.`
`16:27.00`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`16:27.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Didn't work :)`
`16:27.13`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`:(`
`16:27.23`	`doughecka`	`anyone want to take a peek at some PIC code? :)`
`16:27.29`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`?`
`16:27.54`	`Cell`	`hey`
`16:28.12`	`Cell`	`i done the test`
`16:28.14`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~66.22.140.111`
`16:28.15`		`66.22`
`16:28.16`	`Cell`	`;)`
`16:28.17`	`Patlabor2211`	`are you allowing UDP?`
`16:28.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`16:28.35`	`[dmp]`	`Server version: 'BZFS107e'`
`16:28.36`	`[dmp]`	`Communication error joining game`
`16:28.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmm`
`16:28.51`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`My server?`
`16:29.01`	`[dmp]`	`Nope, my arse :)`
`16:29.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`My server is g1`
`16:29.05`	`Patlabor2211`	`they all say 107e`
`16:29.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`16:29.13`	`Patlabor2211`	`the protocoll is 107e`
`16:29.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`16:29.48`	`Patlabor2211`	`don't change the protocoll vers every build, that would be silly, G1 works down to e1 or so`
`16:29.52`	`[dmp]`	`have you tried adding "-d"'s when starting the server?`
`16:29.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have 2 of them`
`16:30.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`16:30.11`	`Patlabor2211`	`do you see any messages when people try to connect?`
`16:30.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`16:30.42`	`Patlabor2211`	`and what does it say?`
`16:30.51`	`doughecka`	`moo`
`16:31.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Player [dmp] [0] on 84 removed: Write error`
`16:31.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`That's what it said for some of dmp`
`16:32.09`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`should I put in more -d?`
`16:32.23`	`Patlabor2211`	`the error stems from when winsock can't send`
`16:32.44`	`Patlabor2211`	`well I could say can't receve from the client`
`16:32.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have hardly ever heard you speak English`
`16:32.54`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`16:32.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`you sure your ISP isn't firewalling you or anything?`
`16:33.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have hosted a server before on this ISP`
`16:33.13`	`Patlabor2211`	`that was english`
`16:33.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I know ;)`
`16:33.28`	`stibnite`	`s/hosted/hosed/`
`16:33.29`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I mean English for idiots`
`16:33.48`	`Patlabor2211`	`sorry I don't speak mid-american`
`16:33.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok??`
`16:34.01`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`OK!`
`16:34.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`try turning off force UDP`
`16:34.12`	`doughecka`	`could someone send me 50 cents in paypal?`
`16:34.14`	`doughecka`	`;)`
`16:34.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So you suspect I have a firewall?`
`16:34.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`IT isn't forced...`
`16:34.50`	`Patlabor2211`	`well the error in bzs is when we sent a message and don't get anything understandable back`
`16:35.05`	`Patlabor2211`	`it was in your last command line I saw`
`16:35.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What?`
`16:35.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`+f good?`
`16:35.23`	`Patlabor2211`	`no`
`16:35.25`	`Patlabor2211`	`that's flags`
`16:35.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`...Oh`
`16:35.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It appears I cannot host a g0 server anymore either...`
`16:36.03`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Let me see...`
`16:36.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`16:37.01`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Now try my server`
`16:37.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm, you CAN enter`
`16:37.39`	`[dmp]`	`connected`
`16:37.41`	`Patlabor2211`	`do you have -requireudp ?`
`16:37.46`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No`
`16:37.47`	`Patlabor2211`	`what did you change?`
`16:37.51`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Nothing`
`16:37.56`	`Patlabor2211`	`odd`
`16:37.56`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I am running from g0`
`16:38.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`But I still need to detect the problem with my g1 server...`
`16:38.23`	`[dmp]`	`i'd try a few times before, it just gave me the same error each time.`
`16:38.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hm, Ok, When I say NOW reconnect...`
`16:38.36`	`Patlabor2211`	`may be a bug in the cvs cversion`
`16:38.51`	`doughecka`	`http://heck.no-ip.com/kisstnc.zip`
`16:39.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`doug noonoe cares about your radio crap`
`16:39.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Now`
`16:39.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm`
`16:39.29`	`doughecka`	`thought Noodleman would like to see it`
`16:39.32`	`doughecka`	`;)`
`16:39.50`	`[dmp]`	`i'm there.. lucky me`
`16:39.52`	`Patlabor2211`	`proabably, but that's a personal thing between you and him`
`16:40.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hey. Noodleman is cool`
`16:40.33`	`Patlabor2211`	`I know he is`
`16:40.41`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor2211: bzflag is cool`
`16:40.54`	`Patlabor2211`	`good till april now?`
`16:41.00`	`doughecka`	`yup`
`16:41.06`	`Patlabor2211`	`sad`
`16:41.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`OK!`
`16:41.16`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`16:41.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Back to my problem!`
`16:41.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Why won't it work with g1?`
`16:41.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`You say a bug?`
`16:41.34`	`doughecka`	`that IS a problem`
`16:41.41`	`Patlabor2211`	`you using the exact same bat file?`
`16:41.46`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No`
`16:41.51`	`Patlabor2211`	`what is difrent?`
`16:41.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I am using the sample.conf file`
`16:42.13`	`Patlabor2211`	`well does that even have the right options?`
`16:42.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`bzfs -conf sample.conf`
`16:42.34`	`Patlabor2211`	`try the bat file FIRST to make sure the server works`
`16:42.41`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`In g1?`
`16:42.52`	`Patlabor2211`	`yes`
`16:43.00`	`Patlabor2211`	`then debug the config file problem`
`16:43.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmmmm...`
`16:43.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I can't put in that much command line`
`16:43.30`	`Patlabor2211`	`then how are you running G0`
`16:43.40`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`From a SIMPLE .bat file`
`16:43.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Very short...`
`16:43.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`then run G0 from the same simple bat`
`16:43.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`to make sure the server at least works`
`16:44.00`	`Patlabor2211`	`man`
`16:44.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`then start adding configs`
`16:44.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`bzfs +f good +f good -public "creeperz' Realm, Now Playing- Maze By Matt B" -publicaddr "24.220.78.178" -d -d -j -r +r -ms 10 -mo 5 -passwd "PASSWORD" -world "mattb.bzw"`
`16:44.26`	`doughecka`	`huh`
`16:44.26`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`doug has ME?`
`16:44.36`	`Patlabor2211`	`don't try to do a buch of things at the same time`
`16:44.39`	`doughecka`	`[STC]_creeperz: I have XP, and .net server :P`
`16:44.39`	`Patlabor2211`	`take it in steps`
`16:44.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`16:44.49`	`Patlabor2211`	`otherwise you won't know what you broke`
`16:44.49`	`doughecka`	`[dmp]: ooh, thats bad`
`16:44.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`16:44.59`	`[dmp]`	`doughecka: It's unfair.`
`16:45.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`16:45.20`	`[dmp]`	`doughecka: And she dosnt want us to settle it with a 1on1 :)`
`16:45.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So I take everything from my g0 server and host it in my .conf file?`
`16:45.24`	`doughecka`	`[dmp]: yea, but you dont want her to get sick.`
`16:45.30`	`Patlabor2211`	`NO`
`16:45.30`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`16:45.38`	`Patlabor2211`	`run G1 with the same bat as G0`
`16:45.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh ok`
`16:45.51`	`Patlabor2211`	`then worry about the config file later`
`16:45.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`do what you know works`
`16:46.26`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It's up`
`16:46.33`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Let the joining begin!`
`16:46.48`	`doughecka`	`theres still time to send me 50 cents!`
`16:47.03`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`...GO PRAY!`
`16:47.08`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`16:47.28`	`Patlabor2211`	`dosn't show up public`
`16:47.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Someone join my server`
`16:47.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm...`
`16:47.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`24.220.78.178:5155`
`16:47.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`don't show up pub`
`16:48.02`	`doughecka`	`~bzquery 24.220.78.178:5155`
`16:48.15`	`doughecka`	`~bzflist`
`16:48.25`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Page 2`
`16:48.44`	`doughecka`	`[STC]_creeperz: I had to put a special list server in there so it would show up`
`16:48.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok?`
`16:48.57`	`doughecka`	`but maybe thats just me`
`16:49.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yea...`
`16:49.06`	`Patlabor2211`	`ok it workjed`
`16:49.12`	`Patlabor2211`	`he's fine`
`16:49.17`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I saw...`
`16:49.22`	`doughecka`	`woo`
`16:49.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So it is something wrong with my .conf file`
`16:49.30`	`Patlabor2211`	`now make a config that does just those options`
`16:49.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`16:49.35`	`Patlabor2211`	`and see if it works`
`16:49.44`	`Patlabor2211`	`then if that does, add more stuff to the config`
`16:49.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`the sample is proably not set up for your situation.`
`16:50.29`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Won't launch...`
`16:50.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Does it need to be named sample.conf?`
`16:51.04`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I wouldn't think so`
`16:51.42`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmm`
`16:51.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`"configuration file not found"`
`16:51.54`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I type full location`
`16:52.34`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`16:52.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Launched... Look`
`16:52.52`	`Patlabor2211`	`you specify the filename in the command line`
`16:52.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I did`
`16:53.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I typed "C:\progra~1\1.7g1\ffa.conf`
`16:53.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`"*`
`16:53.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Join...`
`16:54.14`	`Patlabor2211`	`yup`
`16:54.17`	`Patlabor2211`	`no rouges tho`
`16:54.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What the crap?`
`16:54.37`	`Patlabor2211`	`+r`
`16:54.40`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I know`
`16:54.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`+r is rico... -r is rouge`
`16:54.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`whatever :)`
`16:55.06`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No jumping, no rico`
`16:55.13`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`THIS IS NOT MY SERVER!!`
`16:55.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Not even the right map!`
`16:55.22`	`Patlabor2211`	`huh?`
`16:55.27`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Not even one of my maps!`
`16:55.36`	`Patlabor2211`	`it's got your IP man`
`16:55.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No one has joined... to my view`
`16:55.46`	`Patlabor2211`	`Idid, and you where there`
`16:55.52`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Really?`
`16:55.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`ay`
`16:56.00`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm, there is some mistake!`
`16:57.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`16:57.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`try now...`
`16:58.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No go?`
`16:58.47`	`Patlabor2211`	`nope`
`16:59.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm...Has to be a problem in the .conf file`
`16:59.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`#This is a bzfs configuration file.`
`16:59.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`#Copy and paste into a simple text file and name it like sample.conf.`
`16:59.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`#Use it like bzfs -conf sample.conf`
`16:59.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`#Public description for the server`
`16:59.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`-public "creeperz' Realm- Now playing Home by [STC] creeperz"`
`16:59.54`	`*** join/#bzflag prot-work (~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)`
`17:00.04`	`*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@host-178-78-220-24.midco.net)`
`17:00.25`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`You see?`
`17:00.56`	`Patlabor2211`	`I don't know much about the config files`
`17:01.00`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`17:01.15`	`Patlabor2211`	`but I think each item goes on it' s own line`
`17:01.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`prot-wrok?`
`17:01.51`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It is`
`17:02.15`	`Patlabor2211`	`he's at work, so`
`17:02.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`17:02.22`	`doughecka`	`sleeping`
`17:02.24`	`doughecka`	`at work`
`17:02.27`	`Patlabor2211`	`sure`
`17:02.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Lol`
`17:02.32`	`Patlabor2211`	`or just bored`
`17:02.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yea`
`17:02.36`	`doughecka`	`Patlabor2211 know all about that`
`17:02.40`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`17:02.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Maybe waiting for Tim`
`17:02.57`	`doughecka`	`he be in texas`
`17:03.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`He's in Dallas today... I think`
`17:03.04`	`doughecka`	`~seen timriker`
`17:03.07`		`timriker <~timr@rikers.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 16h 53m 50s ago, saying: 'no ts on a laptop'.`
`17:03.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`yes`
`17:03.27`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~seen TimTexasRiker`
`17:03.27`		`i haven't seen 'timtexasriker', [STC]_creeperz`
`17:03.37`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm...`
`17:03.47`	`doughecka`	`~seen timMSsuxriker`
`17:03.48`		`i haven't seen 'timmssuxriker', doughecka`
`17:03.50`	`Patlabor2211`	`yeah put each thing on a new line`
`17:03.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`like -r`
`17:03.57`	`Patlabor2211`	`-public`
`17:03.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`ect`
`17:04.01`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It is`
`17:04.05`	`doughecka`	`~seen timMSuxriker`
`17:04.05`		`i haven't seen 'timmsuxriker ', doughecka`
`17:04.08`	`doughecka`	`bah`
`17:04.24`	`Patlabor2211`	`and you put just the ones that were in the bat file in there?`
`17:04.28`	`Patlabor2211`	`or all the sample ones?`
`17:04.41`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`?`
`17:04.53`	`Patlabor2211`	`the config`
`17:05.05`	`Patlabor2211`	`did you make one with just the options from your bat file?`
`17:05.55`	`*** join/#bzflag jraitala (cheesus@jraitala-dsl.oulu.fi)`
`17:05.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`BLAH!! I know what's wrong.. I think`
`17:06.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`In bat file: "bzfs -conf blah.conf"`
`17:06.39`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`In conf file: bzfs ......`
`17:06.41`	`doughecka`	`huh`
`17:06.46`	`doughecka`	`26 cents`
`17:06.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Why need to identify it?`
`17:06.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Again`
`17:07.01`	`Patlabor2211`	`shouldn't`
`17:07.13`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So delete it out of .conf file`
`17:07.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`?`
`17:07.39`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Let me edit and find out`
`17:08.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`N\m... It doesn't in the file I am using... ;)`
`17:08.24`	`doughecka`	`in there a minimum payment in paypal?`
`17:08.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Well, I found a problem thet tim already fixed :)`
`17:08.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`$150.95!`
`17:08.55`	`doughecka`	`uh huh`
`17:08.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`no`
`17:09.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I know`
`17:09.16`	`doughecka`	`how about $0.26 ;)`
`17:09.22`	`Patlabor2211`	`tho if you use a credit card and it's less then 0.03$ the end user won't get it.`
`17:09.32`	`doughecka`	`oh?`
`17:09.33`	`ak\|ra`	`http://141.44.198.27/~gumz/dolphins-rgb.avi`
`17:09.34`	`doughecka`	`cool`
`17:09.35`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`17:09.38`	`Patlabor2211`	`fees`
`17:10.02`	`doughecka`	`ak\|ra: sweet`
`17:10.07`	`ak\|ra`	`:)`
`17:10.27`	`ak\|ra`	`waving hello to scanline and capn`
`17:10.28`	`ak\|ra`	`:)`
`17:10.58`	`doughecka`	`not really`
`17:10.59`	`ak\|ra`	`proove`
`17:11.00`	`ak\|ra`	`:))`
`17:11.06`	`ak\|ra`	`ok, back to hacking`
`17:11.16`	`Patlabor2211`	`yeah doug, say something not dumb?`
`17:11.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`17:11.39`	`doughecka`	`e=mc2`
`17:11.45`	`ak\|ra`	`stupi`
`17:11.46`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`E*`
`17:11.53`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`17:11.54`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`MC`
`17:11.57`	`doughecka`	`what would that do?`
`17:11.58`	`ak\|ra`	`ok, back soon`
`17:12.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Equasion values are always cap`
`17:12.16`	`doughecka`	`or was it m=ec2?`
`17:12.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Or was it...?`
`17:12.29`	`doughecka`	`or c=mepi`
`17:12.29`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~sud`
`17:12.30`		`shut up doug`
`17:13.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Back to the problem at hand`
`17:13.17`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`being my server...`
`17:13.42`	`doughecka`	`cough ME/DOS box cough`
`17:14.10`	`Patlabor2211`	`are you only adding the stuff from the bat file in the config file?`
`17:14.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No`
`17:14.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Using conf builder`
`17:14.25`	`Patlabor2211`	`LOL munchkin fight`
`17:14.35`	`Patlabor2211`	`keep it simple man`
`17:14.46`	`Patlabor2211`	`just put the options from the bat file in the config`
`17:14.48`	`Patlabor2211`	`you know those work`
`17:14.52`	`Patlabor2211`	`don't cut corners`
`17:14.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`17:15.04`	`Patlabor2211`	`who made a config builder?`
`17:15.13`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Tim`
`17:15.19`	`Patlabor2211`	`java thing?`
`17:15.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Located in the data dir`
`17:15.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No`
`17:15.26`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`HTML`
`17:15.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Or CGI`
`17:15.51`	`doughecka`	`perl`
`17:16.45`	`[dmp]`	`Ah still busy with creeperz conf, i see :-)`
`17:16.52`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`17:17.41`	`Patlabor2211`	`that would be a javascript thing`
`17:17.43`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Barrier jars :) Impossible to break`
`17:17.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yea`
`17:17.48`	`[dmp]`	`Uh, wanna get down right and dirty, you creeperz-darling :-)`
`17:18.01`	`doughecka`	`not anti-teleporting jars though`
`17:18.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`You never stated that ;)`
`17:18.22`	`doughecka`	`lifes not fair`
`17:18.27`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`17:18.28`	`Patlabor2211`	`can you 2 have your munchkin fight in a private chat?`
`17:18.33`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`You'll learn that as you get older`
`17:18.40`	`doughecka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:18.42`	`Patlabor2211`	`he's older then you skip`
`17:18.43`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`...No...`
`17:18.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`lol`
`17:18.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I know`
`17:19.05`	`doughecka`	`and ALL powerfull!!! bwuahahaha`
`17:19.23`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`join #munchkin fight`
`17:19.32`	`doughecka`	`no ibot..`
`17:19.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`#munchkin`
`17:19.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~lart doughecka`
`17:19.52`	`Patlabor2211`	`so fight like real munchkins, with out bots`
`17:19.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Let's go!`
`17:20.34`	`Patlabor2211`	`doug he's insulting your munchkin-hood`
`17:21.03`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`17:21.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~kill doughecka`
`17:21.13`		`ACTION slits doughecka's throat`
`17:21.46`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`heh`
`17:21.53`	`Patlabor2211`	`well enough of this innnane babble`
`17:21.55`	`*** part/#bzflag Patlabor2211 (~JeffM@208.48.199.214)`
`17:22.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`17:22.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`pic*`
`17:22.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`?`
`17:23.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~dict death`
`17:23.25`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Awww`
`17:23.35`	`doughecka`	`ouch, your gonna hate that`
`17:23.54`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So THAT'S what death means!`
`17:25.08`	`*** join/#bzflag ak\|ra (~mathias@pD9E4785E.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`17:25.43`	`ak\|ra`	`re`
`17:25.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`17:25.51`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`doug?`
`17:25.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`You alive?`
`17:26.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`17:26.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`holograms are not tangible... You are... I just kicked you`
`17:28.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`You're dead... And I'm gunna keep killing you on respawn ;)`
`17:28.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`CHEATER!!`
`17:29.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Too bad... You're gone ;)`
`17:29.29`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`17:29.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmm...`
`17:30.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`n/password PASSWORD`
`17:30.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I g2g`
`17:30.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Kill yu later!`
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`17:39.19`	`prot-work`	`sheesh, doug spews a lot of crap`
`17:40.55`	`Noodleman`	`moo`
`17:49.31`	`Noodleman`	`w00, only 4 packages left to compile`
`17:49.52`	`ak\|ra`	`for what?`
`17:50.05`	`Noodleman`	`X gnome kde and mozilla`
`17:50.11`	`doughecka`	`for gentoo`
`17:50.14`	`doughecka`	`'lo Noodleman`
`17:50.15`	`ak\|ra`	`aaah`
`17:50.16`	`Noodleman`	`yup`
`17:50.19`	`ak\|ra`	`just a day`
`17:50.21`	`ak\|ra`	`:))))`
`17:50.22`	`ak\|ra`	`muhahar`
`17:50.22`	`Noodleman`	`'lo doughecka`
`17:50.55`	`Noodleman`	`it's been compiling for 45 hours straight`
`17:50.56`	`ak\|ra`	`Noodleman: start kde, go out and come LAAAaaatttttteeer back`
`17:51.05`	`ak\|ra`	`wow`
`17:51.07`	`ak\|ra`	`hehehe`
`17:51.13`	`ak\|ra`	`what proc?`
`17:51.21`	`Noodleman`	`800 mhz via c3`
`17:51.32`	`Noodleman`	`i should have used distcc :-)`
`17:52.02`	`doughecka`	`hehe`
`17:52.10`	`ak\|ra`	`yes`
`17:52.11`	`ak\|ra`	`:))`
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`17:57.55`	`doughecka`	`Noodleman: you have paypal?`
`17:58.02`	`Noodleman`	`nope`
`17:58.05`	`doughecka`	`k`
`17:58.13`	`Noodleman`	`you wanna pay me something??? :-)`
`17:58.19`	`doughecka`	`nope`
`17:58.25`	`doughecka`	`I need 26 cents :)`
`17:58.31`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`17:59.22`	`Cell`	`shall i give you some cents?`
`17:59.34`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`18:04.07`	`Noodleman`	`the catfish had babies :-)`
`18:04.20`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`18:05.58`	`ak\|ra`	`cya`
`18:06.00`	`*** part/#bzflag ak\|ra (~mathias@pD9E4785E.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`18:08.38`	`Noodleman`	`last pacakge! w00t!`
`18:09.33`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`18:09.52`	`Noodleman`	`ooooh, last pacakge is mozilla, ouch!`
`18:10.02`	`Noodleman`	`that will take another hour`
`18:10.07`	`Noodleman`	`;-)`
`18:10.23`	`Noodleman`	`3.4 fortnights`
`18:10.30`	`Noodleman`	`right Pat?`
`18:10.32`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`18:10.44`	`doughecka`	`~convert 3.4 fortnights to hours`
`18:10.50`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`18:13.03`	`Noodleman`	`i have a funny feeling about a package that takes 12 minutes to download`
`18:13.18`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`18:13.19`	`Noodleman`	`it will take a white to get compiled`
`18:13.43`	`doughecka`	`I have a friend that went to someplace to fix somthing... they had the only cable modem in the town`
`18:13.43`	`doughecka`	`4 mbs down`
`18:13.43`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`18:13.45`	`doughecka`	`w00t w00t`
`18:13.53`	`Noodleman`	`hahaha`
`18:14.12`	`doughecka`	`12 meg file just zipped down`
`18:14.27`	`Noodleman`	`probably capped at 128 down tho :-(`
`18:14.34`	`Noodleman`	`up sorry`
`18:14.36`	`doughecka`	`heh, yea`
`18:14.56`	`Noodleman`	`i don't care so much about the down speed as the up speed`
`18:15.06`	`Noodleman`	`i want to run servers d00d!`
`18:15.25`	`doughecka`	`yea, but WOW, imagin all the redhat cds you could download in that time`
`18:15.33`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`18:15.46`	`Noodleman`	`~650/4`
`18:15.47`		`162.5`
`18:15.58`	`doughecka`	`haha`
`18:16.29`	`Noodleman`	`162.5/60`
`18:16.37`	`Noodleman`	`~162.5/60`
`18:16.37`		`2.708333333333`
`18:16.48`	`Noodleman`	`3 minutes!`
`18:16.50`	`Noodleman`	`no way`
`18:17.32`	`Noodleman`	`doughecka: 4 megabits or 4 megabytes?`
`18:17.39`	`doughecka`	`um`
`18:17.44`	`doughecka`	`4 megabytes`
`18:17.49`	`doughecka`	`I suppose :)`
`18:17.54`	`doughecka`	`brb`
`18:30.14`	`captain_proton`	`why would you download lots of redhat cds?`
`18:30.23`	`captain_proton`	`seems to me that you only really need two`
`18:31.54`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: you should enter noodle's contest`
`18:37.23`	`scanline`	`?`
`18:37.42`	`scanline`	`what contest?`
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`18:38.08`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: topic`
`18:38.11`	`bzgirl`	`hi`
`18:38.23`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: its a very simple & quick obfuscated programming contest`
`18:38.46`	`scanline`	`hmm!`
`18:40.20`	`scanline`	`hmm.. any language....`
`18:41.06`	`Noodleman`	`can you code in malbolge? :-P`
`18:44.48`	`captain_proton`	`hmm...my latest abuse isn't working`
`18:45.24`	`doughecka`	`whats ever more funny is Noodleman doesnt drink beer`
`18:45.30`	`doughecka`	`I think`
`18:45.30`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`18:45.35`	`scanline`	`EVIL ideas`
`18:45.40`	`Noodleman`	`i'm underage too`
`18:45.44`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`18:45.46`	`Noodleman`	`what a concept :-)`
`18:45.50`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`18:45.59`	`Noodleman`	`no, i wouldn't drink beer anyway`
`18:46.22`	`Noodleman`	`you never know if i would be one of those instant alcoholics`
`18:46.35`	`doughecka`	`heh`
`18:46.38`	`Noodleman`	`it's like playing russian roulette imho`
`18:47.33`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: lunch?`
`18:47.41`	`scanline`	`ok`
`18:47.50`	`Noodleman`	`scanline wouldn't make a very good lunch, i'm sure`
`18:47.57`	`Noodleman`	`to much gristle`
`18:48.11`	`Noodleman`	`;-)`
`18:48.19`	`scanline`	`:)`
`18:48.23`	`scanline`	`are there any prizes?`
`18:48.59`	`Noodleman`	`well, when i get around to it, i'm going to do up some 1st 2nd and 3rd place graphics`
`18:49.16`	`Noodleman`	`sorry, no free beer :-P`
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`18:49.59`	`Noodleman`	`'lo Patlabor2211`
`18:50.03`	`Patlabor2211`	`sup`
`18:50.15`	`Noodleman`	`http://www.noodleroni.com/beercontest.php`
`18:50.21`	`Noodleman`	`i need submissions`
`18:51.19`	`Noodleman`	`i hope i can get everybody at work to do a submission`
`18:51.26`	`Noodleman`	`except for the secretaries`
`18:51.31`	`Patlabor2211`	`bahhh linux centric contest :)`
`18:51.34`	`Noodleman`	`they don't crunch code very well`
`18:51.45`	`Noodleman`	`you can do it in c++`
`18:51.52`	`Noodleman`	`just make sure it runs in linux`
`18:52.06`	`Patlabor2211`	`well then how am I going to make it "COOL"`
`18:52.10`	`Noodleman`	`i don't want to have to buy vc++ when i'd never use it :-)`
`18:52.23`	`Patlabor2211`	`and what is the point? obfuscation? or coolness?`
`18:52.38`	`Patlabor2211`	`you don't HAVE to buy it`
`18:52.43`	`Noodleman`	`obfuscation and compactness are the main goals`
`18:53.34`	`Noodleman`	`i'd have to make sure it works :-)`
`18:53.48`	`Patlabor2211`	`still, you don't HAVE to spend money`
`18:53.55`	`Noodleman`	`kazaa?`
`18:53.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`there are "ways"`
`18:53.57`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`18:54.00`	`Patlabor2211`	`even better`
`18:54.41`	`Patlabor2211`	`but if you are going for compactness then you are looking at regular C in that regards`
`18:54.46`	`Patlabor2211`	`tho someone could try c#`
`18:54.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`since techincaly there is a "nix implmentation`
`18:55.07`	`Noodleman`	`mono?`
`18:55.19`	`Patlabor2211`	`?`
`18:55.21`	`Noodleman`	`it's not exactly ready yet`
`18:55.31`	`Noodleman`	`http://go-mono.com/`
`18:55.40`	`Patlabor2211`	`well the C# geeks are saying that there is something on nix that does it`
`18:55.45`	`Patlabor2211`	`and that makes it "cross plat"`
`18:55.50`	`Patlabor2211`	`I just laugh at them`
`18:56.24`	`Noodleman`	`the compiler can compile itself by now`
`18:56.30`	`Noodleman`	`that's a good thing`
`18:56.57`	`Patlabor2211`	`oh so it can make a slower compiler :)`
`18:57.04`	`Noodleman`	`heh`
`18:57.24`	`Patlabor2211`	`C# is intereting as a scripting lang for web based stuff, but not as an application language`
`18:57.38`	`Patlabor2211`	`like java, it's "only 30x slower then C when compiled"`
`18:58.05`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`18:58.14`	`Noodleman`	`yes, java is slow`
`18:58.45`	`Chestal`	`it depends`
`18:58.49`	`Noodleman`	`and i've heard it takes 2000+ lines of c code to print Hello World in java`
`18:59.06`	`Chestal`	`some JITs are quite fast when it comes to optimizatons at the small scale`
`18:59.29`	`Noodleman`	`but compared to c, it's always going to be slower`
`18:59.30`	`Chestal`	`IBM's JIT usually generates faster code than gcc on Intel platforms for simple number crunching`
`18:59.32`	`Patlabor2211`	`still, for what I do, why not C`
`18:59.52`	`Patlabor2211`	`does CGG even optimise?`
`19:00.07`	`Noodleman`	`gcc does optimize somewhat`
`19:00.09`	`Chestal`	`e.g. calc of prime numbers in Java will be faster than in C/C++ whenusing IBM/gcc`
`19:00.24`	`Chestal`	`Java loses speed on the big scale, though`
`19:00.29`	`Patlabor2211`	`what about the rest of it?`
`19:00.34`	`Patlabor2211`	`ahh the important part`
`19:01.06`	`Noodleman`	`and there's the initial overhead of loading the interpreter and compiling the program`
`19:01.17`	`Patlabor2211`	`the VM langs are just not my bag`
`19:01.28`	`Chestal`	`java heap allocator/deallocator might be faster than that of gcc, but most of the time, you don't need to use heap in C++`
`19:01.48`	`Noodleman`	`perl is my language`
`19:01.49`	`Chestal`	`java is very fast in general when compared to language like python etc., though`
`19:02.48`	`Chestal`	`cannot say if this is caused by language design or just by slow interpreter/vm implementations for those other languages`
`19:04.51`	`Patlabor2211`	`hmmm must fix the tankg tilt bug with the physics test`
`19:05.22`	`Noodleman`	`grrrr, my /. story is still pending`
`19:05.44`	`Noodleman`	`if they accept that story, i'll get alot of submissions :-D`
`19:05.51`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`19:07.54`	`Patlabor2211`	`hmm must dampen tank tilt then it will be ok`
`19:08.12`	`doughecka`	`ooh`
`19:08.16`	`doughecka`	`tank tilt in bzflag?`
`19:09.45`	`Patlabor2211`	`mayyyyybbeeee`
`19:09.52`	`Patlabor2211`	`but not the tilt you think of`
`19:09.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`more of a roll`
`19:10.02`	`doughecka`	`ooh`
`19:12.19`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`19:17.49`	`captain_proton`	`hey Noodleman, question for ya`
`19:17.56`	`Noodleman`	`shoot`
`19:18.00`	`doughecka`	`darn`
`19:18.05`	`captain_proton`	`is it ok to have two-person team entries? :)`
`19:18.08`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`19:18.14`	`Noodleman`	`sure, why not?`
`19:18.25`	`captain_proton`	`bwahahahahahahahahahah`
`19:18.27`	`Noodleman`	`~rsud`
`19:18.27`		`fuhg hc qbht`
`19:18.56`	`captain_proton`	`Noodleman: mono is sorta ready - i've used it`
`19:19.00`	`scanline`	`mwah ha ha!`
`19:19.00`	`captain_proton`	`the runtime is a bit slow`
`19:19.10`	`Noodleman`	`it will count to both your's and the other party's 3 submissions tho`
`19:19.35`	`scanline`	`that's fine`
`19:20.10`	`scanline`	`Noodleman: also, is it ok if we specify an exact CPU and version of gcc our entry requires?`
`19:20.21`	`doughecka`	`LOL`
`19:20.25`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: BUBBLE WRAP!`
`19:20.25`	`Noodleman`	`that's fine`
`19:20.29`	`doughecka`	`WHAT cpu?`
`19:20.30`	`scanline`	`yay`
`19:20.38`	`scanline`	`doughecka: any i386-compatible`
`19:20.44`	`Noodleman`	`what cpu and gcc version where you thinking?`
`19:20.45`	`doughecka`	`uh huh`
`19:20.52`	`doughecka`	`how about a PIC?`
`19:21.03`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: i have lots of tusb3410s now =)`
`19:21.13`	`scanline`	`Noodleman: say, any i386-compatible CPU, and gcc 3.2.1`
`19:21.24`	`Noodleman`	`scanline: ok, that will be ok`
`19:21.24`	`scanline`	`with optimization disabled`
`19:22.15`	`scanline`	`~sud`
`19:22.16`		`shut up doug`
`19:22.25`	`Noodleman`	`~rsud`
`19:22.25`		`fuhg hc qbht`
`19:22.41`	`Noodleman`	`~rot13 fuhg hc qbht`
`19:22.41`		`shut up doug`
`19:38.00`	`*** join/#bzflag Cell (~alton@pD9590EB4.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`19:38.05`	`Noodleman`	`moo`
`19:39.13`	`Cell`	`can i sell opensource software?`
`19:39.22`	`doughecka`	`HAHAHAHAHAH`
`19:39.23`	`doughecka`	`er`
`19:39.23`	`Noodleman`	`depends on the license`
`19:39.23`	`Cell`	`@ebay`
`19:39.25`	`Patlabor2211`	`depends on the liscene`
`19:39.29`	`Cell`	`GPL`
`19:39.36`	`Noodleman`	`yes, you can sell it`
`19:39.36`	`Patlabor2211`	`usualy not`
`19:39.39`	`Patlabor2211`	`realy?`
`19:39.43`	`Cell`	`why?`
`19:39.56`	`Noodleman`	`you can sell gpl software as long as the source comes with it`
`19:39.57`	`Patlabor2211`	`some licesns do, some don't read them`
`19:40.03`	`Patlabor2211`	`ahhhh`
`19:40.31`	`Cell`	`cool then i try to sell all the GPL stuff`
`19:40.33`	`Noodleman`	`that's what redhat and mandrake and all the other distros do`
`19:40.35`	`Cell`	`at ebay`
`19:40.53`	`Patlabor2211`	`cell reald the specific liscense`
`19:41.16`	`doughecka`	`you can sell redhat and mandrak on ebay`
`19:41.18`	`*** join/#bzflag prot-screen (~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]`
`19:41.20`	`Patlabor2211`	`yes`
`19:41.22`	`Cell`	`lol`
`19:41.31`	`Patlabor2211`	`You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy, and`
`19:41.31`	`Patlabor2211`	`you may at your option offer warranty protection in exchange for a fee.`
`19:41.55`	`Cell`	`i offer installing description`
`19:42.00`	`Noodleman`	`you can't distrubute redhat unless you remove all of their trademarks and logos tho`
`19:42.32`	`Cell`	`what is the licence of GIMP`
`19:42.39`	`Cell`	`?`
`19:42.56`	`Noodleman`	`gpl`
`19:43.21`	`Cell`	`so i can sell it on ebay`
`19:43.25`	`Noodleman`	`ypu`
`19:43.31`	`Noodleman`	`but nobody will buy it :-)`
`19:43.45`	`Cell`	`depens on the presentation`
`19:43.55`	`Noodleman`	`i guess so`
`19:44.19`	`Cell`	`i search for gimp at ebay`
`19:45.09`	`Cell`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3405394607&category=3796`
`19:45.47`	`doughecka`	`0 bids`
`19:45.52`	`doughecka`	`15 min to go`
`19:45.53`	`doughecka`	`..`
`19:46.30`	`Noodleman`	`they are seling it under false pretenses`
`19:46.44`	`Noodleman`	`FULL MONEY BACK IF NOT SATISFIED`
`19:46.49`	`Noodleman`	`LUXURIOUSITYPHOTO will open and edit all your photoshop files and will`
`19:46.50`	`doughecka`	`LOL`
`19:46.54`	`Noodleman`	`give you all the functionality of photoshop. If you are not 100% satisfied,`
`19:46.57`	`doughecka`	`http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&query=gimp&from=R8&ht=1&st=2&category1=18793&Top10=&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&catref=C1`
`19:46.59`	`Noodleman`	`return the product to us for your money back!`
`19:47.16`	`Cell`	`lol`
`19:47.37`	`Patlabor2211`	`I don't see any with bids`
`19:47.46`	`Cell`	`i have to look if GPL allows remaining of the project`
`19:47.51`	`Noodleman`	`ADOBE PHOTOSHOP 7.0 COMPATIBLE SOFTWARE`
`19:48.00`	`Noodleman`	`that's a bald-faced lie`
`19:48.15`	`Patlabor2211`	`yeah it 'don't read 7.0 psds`
`19:48.27`	`doughecka`	`it writes old PSD files`
`19:48.40`	`doughecka`	`and read them too I think.. but I dont know...`
`19:48.46`	`doughecka`	`old ones too`
`19:48.47`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`19:48.59`	`Cell`	`look for bzflag`
`19:49.02`	`Cell`	`:)`
`19:49.22`	`Noodleman`	`nothing`
`19:49.28`	`Cell`	`yeah`
`19:49.59`	`Cell`	`i bet someone would by that game`
`19:50.00`	`Noodleman`	`nobody is dumb enough to buy the gimp`
`19:50.03`	`Cell`	`for 10$`
`19:50.15`	`Patlabor2211`	`humans are stupid`
`19:50.32`	`Cell`	`many dont know what bzflag is`
`19:50.33`	`Noodleman`	`there's no bids on any of these`
`19:50.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`yeah dougt the close`
`19:51.16`	`Patlabor2211`	`more likeky they are just people like cell trying to make a quick buck of an idiot`
`19:51.18`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`19:51.24`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`19:51.45`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`19:52.36`	`Cell`	`you cannot be annonymous on ebay?`
`19:53.02`	`Cell`	`fake data`
`19:53.05`	`doughecka`	`nope`
`19:55.01`	`Cell`	`you have to be >= 18 years?`
`19:55.12`	`doughecka`	`yup`
`19:55.12`	`Noodleman`	`yup`
`19:55.16`	`Patlabor2211`	`and to sell you have to be verified`
`19:55.18`	`Noodleman`	`wah!`
`19:55.22`	`doughecka`	`great minds think alike`
`19:55.27`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`19:55.28`	`Patlabor2211`	`bank acount or cred card`
`19:55.34`	`Cell`	`shit`
`19:55.43`	`doughecka`	`you need paypal too, most people pay that way`
`19:55.45`	`Patlabor2211`	`so much for your "plan"`
`19:55.52`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`19:55.53`	`Patlabor2211`	`paypall won't do international`
`19:55.57`	`doughecka`	`selling free software`
`19:55.57`	`Noodleman`	`go steal some candy`
`19:56.02`	`Noodleman`	`more ethical`
`19:56.08`	`doughecka`	`Noodleman: huh`
`19:56.21`	`Noodleman`	`joke`
`19:56.22`	`Cell`	`is mysql gol?`
`19:56.28`	`Cell`	`gpl`
`19:56.33`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`19:56.34`	`Noodleman`	`yes`
`19:57.23`	`Cell`	`an phbb?`
`19:57.26`	`doughecka`	`mysql is freely downloadable, but you can sell it for about 3 dollers for the proce of the cd and shipping :)`
`19:57.29`	`Noodleman`	`don't know`
`19:57.41`	`doughecka`	`I think`
`19:57.45`	`Noodleman`	`mysql is gpl`
`19:58.07`	`Noodleman`	`you can get it under a commerical license if you want to tho`
`19:58.16`	`Noodleman`	`you just have to pay out the nose`
`19:58.22`	`Cell`	`ddont want`
`19:58.29`	`Patlabor2211`	`The subSilver SDK is not released under the GPL and is not subject to that licence. You are permitted to use the files contained within this package for personal use only. You may not use the files in any commercial package in part or in full without the express permission of phpBB Group. You may not re-distribute this package in any way, shape or form without prior agreement from phpBB Group (this includes linking directly to the package on this site).`
`19:58.47`	`Patlabor2211`	`so you can't ship it with the default theme :)`
`19:58.47`	`doughecka`	`Intel 80486 CPU i486 DX-33 486 - NO RESERVE.... $0.01`
`19:58.59`	`Noodleman`	`hahaha`
`19:59.08`	`Cell`	`Patlabor2211:thats a minor prob`
`19:59.08`	`Patlabor2211`	`very smart of them`
`19:59.09`	`Noodleman`	`i'd buy it for a penny`
`19:59.27`	`Noodleman`	`i want to build an openmosix cluster`
`19:59.28`	`Patlabor2211`	`all the other themes are based on subsilver :)`
`19:59.41`	`Patlabor2211`	`and it won't run with out at least 1 theme`
`19:59.50`	`Noodleman`	`then i could compile the current bzflag cvs every hour :-)`
`19:59.50`	`Cell`	`:=0`
`19:59.58`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`20:00.04`	`*** join/#bzflag larsl (~larsl@c213-100-62-28.swipnet.se)`
`20:00.08`	`Patlabor2211`	`noodle only compile when it changes`
`20:00.17`	`Noodleman`	`i was joooooooking`
`20:00.25`	`Patlabor2211`	`automate it :)`
`20:00.29`	`Cell`	`whats the best gpl game?`
`20:00.31`	`Noodleman`	`hah`
`20:00.34`	`Noodleman`	`bzflag`
`20:00.36`	`Noodleman`	`duh`
`20:00.39`	`Noodleman`	`doi`
`20:00.40`	`Patlabor2211`	`register a mail address to get notifications`
`20:00.42`	`Noodleman`	`insult Cell`
`20:00.43`	`Noodlebot`	`Cell, degenerate and base art thou.`
`20:01.02`	`Cell`	`ha`
`20:01.48`	`Noodleman`	`Cell: http://www.noodleroni.com/newname.php?firstname=Alton&lastname=Gorby`
`20:02.07`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`20:02.24`	`Cell`	`haha`
`20:02.54`	`Dorkey_Girdlebut`	`Goober Appletushie!!!!`
`20:03.24`	`Cell`	`i look if we have potatoes here`
`20:03.29`	`Noodleman`	`who's that?`
`20:03.29`	`Dorkey_Girdlebut`	`Goober Hamsterbrain`
`20:03.35`	`Dorkey_Girdlebut`	`Noodleman: noodleman...`
`20:03.48`	`Dorkey_Girdlebut`	`Lumpy Bubblepants`
`20:03.55`	`Noodleman`	`lol`
`20:04.36`	`Patlabor2211`	`well enough inane babble, and watching cell try to juke the rubes.`
`20:04.52`	`bzdoug__________`	`lol`
`20:04.53`	`bzdoug__________`	`Chim-chim Gerbilsniffer`
`20:05.02`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`20:05.31`	`bzdoug__________`	`Chim-chim Bananabuns`
`20:05.51`	`bzdoug__________`	`Loopy Wafflehiney`
`20:06.37`	`scanline`	`hmm`
`20:07.02`	`Noodleman`	`~rsud`
`20:07.03`		`fuhg hc qbht`
`20:07.18`	`bzdoug__________`	`~scan line?`
`20:07.19`		`rumour has it, scan line is Loopy Wafflehiney`
`20:09.52`	`Noodleman`	`doug can't code`
`20:09.54`	`bzdoug__________`	`bwuahahha, qbasis!`
`20:10.00`	`Noodleman`	`hah`
`20:10.21`	`Noodleman`	`can i get qbasic for linux?`
`20:10.27`	`captain_proton`	`this one that scanline & i are going to do will be so so so very gross`
`20:10.29`	`bzdoug__________`	`LOLOLOLOL`
`20:10.37`	`bzdoug__________`	`captain_proton: ugh`
`20:10.49`	`Noodleman`	`the more obfuscated, the better :-)`
`20:11.31`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: Jen is really depressed :(`
`20:12.17`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: as of just now or because of this week?`
`20:12.32`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: as of just now.. she got her calc test back and came in here talking about moving to california`
`20:12.45`	`bzdoug__________`	`lol`
`20:12.47`	`captain_proton`	`....california?`
`20:13.14`	`scanline`	`since she's going to fail everything and not get into the engineering school here...`
`20:14.20`	`captain_proton`	`ugh`
`20:14.43`	`captain_proton`	`how did she do? :P`
`20:15.00`	`scanline`	`30ish I think... but I'm not sure what it was out of`
`20:15.09`	`scanline`	`she was crumpling up here blue book, so I didn't see much of it`
`20:15.13`	`scanline`	`s/here/her/`
`20:15.59`	`scanline`	`I couldn't think of anything to say`
`20:19.07`	`bzdoug__________`	`dumb IIS`
`20:19.44`	`Noodleman`	`use apache`
`20:19.59`	`Noodleman`	`it even beats IIS on it's home platform`
`20:20.06`	`bzdoug__________`	`lol`
`20:20.16`	`Noodleman`	`no crap`
`20:22.03`	`Noodleman`	`moof?`
`20:22.14`	`bzdoug__________`	`woo`
`20:22.30`	`bzdoug__________`	`http://heck.no-ip.com/beer/beer.bas`
`20:22.31`	`Patlabor2211`	`wow talk about some delay in posting a CVS change, I submited yesterday, got the confirm just now`
`20:22.52`	`Noodleman`	`oh, geez, doug`
`20:23.02`	`Noodleman`	`you aren't gunna win anything with that`
`20:23.05`	`bzdoug__________`	`:P`
`20:23.12`	`Patlabor2211`	`and now he can't use that one, because it's pulbicly avalalbe on the internet`
`20:23.18`	`Noodleman`	`yup`
`20:23.20`	`bzdoug__________`	`lol`
`20:23.39`	`Patlabor2211`	`still based on it`
`20:23.46`	`bzdoug__________`	`bummer`
`20:23.54`	`bzdoug__________`	`his fault`
`20:23.54`	`bzdoug__________`	`:)`
`20:24.01`	`Noodleman`	`come on, do it right :-)`
`20:24.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`he dosn't know how`
`20:24.15`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`20:24.45`	`Patlabor2211`	`if cap and scanline are going to enter what is the point, they are just going to come up with someuing uber funky`
`20:24.52`	`scanline`	`>:)`
`20:25.12`	`scanline`	`we came up with an idea that will be really really disgusting and funky if it works`
`20:25.31`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`20:25.31`	`scanline`	`and it will take lots of math and lots of patience to figure out what it's doing`
`20:25.35`	`captain_proton`	`did we mention it would be disgusting?`
`20:25.41`	`Patlabor2211`	`does it involve lasers?`
`20:26.04`	`captain_proton`	`lasers, three live chickens, and forty feet of rubber hosing`
`20:26.04`	`Noodleman`	`any ideas what lang it will be in?`
`20:26.05`	`bzdoug__________`	`how about shotguns?`
`20:26.11`	`*** join/#bzflag stibnite (stephanie@allaboutuptime-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net)`
`20:26.12`	`Patlabor2211`	`keen`
`20:26.17`	`bzdoug__________`	`then no shotguns?`
`20:26.19`	`scanline`	`peachy keen even`
`20:26.35`	`Patlabor2211`	`ods of chickens beeing still live after runing?`
`20:26.44`	`captain_proton`	`0%`
`20:26.46`	`bzdoug__________`	`peeing?`
`20:27.00`	`Patlabor2211`	`doug what are you some kinda sick freak?`
`20:27.23`	`bzdoug__________`	`lol`
`20:28.24`	`bzdoug__________`	`wierd jap music?`
`20:28.32`	`captain_proton`	`pizzicato five`
`20:28.34`	`Noodleman`	`c'mon doug`
`20:28.41`	`Noodleman`	`that's not a nice word`
`20:28.47`	`Patlabor2211`	`here is one for ya cap`
`20:28.50`	`bzdoug__________`	`lol`
`20:29.06`	`captain_proton`	`Patlabor2211: do you have more .hack// ? i've finished watching those 5 =)`
`20:29.17`	`Noodleman`	`it's just like saying the N word`
`20:29.32`	`Patlabor2211`	`http://bakadigital.com/darkmoor/PuffyAmiYumi\An Illustrated History/16-Puffy AmiYumi-Jet PoliceJet no Keisatsu.mp3`
`20:29.48`	`Patlabor2211`	`not riped yet`
`20:29.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`I have the import DVDs for all of them`
`20:30.01`	`Patlabor2211`	`the english ones are not out yet`
`20:30.17`	`bzdoug__________`	`ooh ooh, let me download them`
`20:30.34`	`captain_proton`	`Patlabor2211: i like subs ;-)`
`20:30.40`	`Patlabor2211`	`I know`
`20:30.45`	`Patlabor2211`	`the imports are subed`
`20:30.53`	`Patlabor2211`	`in sorta "engrish" tho`
`20:31.12`	`Patlabor2211`	`just need to be able to do subs, working on getins a lin machine with dvd player set up`
`20:32.38`	`Patlabor2211`	`cap you should watch RahXephon1.avi`
`20:39.57`	`Patlabor2211`	`now to fix roll dampening`
`20:40.15`	`bzdoug__________`	`hmm, your doing this in bzflag?`
`20:40.23`	`bzdoug__________`	`or as another thing`
`20:41.08`	`Patlabor2211`	`right now it's not in bzflag proper code`
`20:41.14`	`bzdoug__________`	`ah`
`20:41.33`	`Patlabor2211`	`but I can freaking side skid a tank now :)`
`20:41.39`	`Patlabor2211`	`hockey stops`
`20:41.45`	`Patlabor2211`	`ect...`
`20:41.49`	`bzdoug__________`	`oooh`
`20:42.17`	`bzdoug__________`	`like shooting around a corner on 2 wheels?`
`20:42.18`	`bzdoug__________`	`:)`
`20:42.43`	`Patlabor2211`	`well it dosn't have wheels and It's not a mass calc so no`
`20:42.53`	`bzdoug__________`	`sorta..`
`20:42.54`	`bzdoug__________`	`:)`
`20:43.08`	`Patlabor2211`	`more like being able to do a fishtail turn`
`20:43.15`	`bzdoug__________`	`ah`
`20:43.16`	`Patlabor2211`	`in a boart`
`20:43.18`	`bzdoug__________`	`even better`
`20:43.19`	`Patlabor2211`	`boat`
`20:43.26`	`Patlabor2211`	`it's a lot like a boat actualy`
`20:43.44`	`bzdoug__________`	`hehe`
`20:43.47`	`bzdoug__________`	`hmm`
`20:43.51`	`Patlabor2211`	`less friction along your axis of facing`
`20:43.56`	`bzdoug__________`	`BZFlag... on WATER!`
`20:43.57`	`Patlabor2211`	`more as you get perpenicular`
`20:44.57`	`Patlabor2211`	`plus the roll is calcluated as proprpotional to your speed and how far off ove your facing vector you are`
`20:45.07`	`bzdoug__________`	`cool`
`20:45.16`	`Patlabor2211`	`so little high speed low deviation turns don't tilt you much`
`20:45.33`	`bzdoug__________`	`oh`
`20:45.34`	`Patlabor2211`	`but like a turn to full 90 at top speed will tilt you a lot`
`20:45.34`	`bzdoug__________`	`hm`
`20:45.42`	`bzdoug__________`	`neat`
`20:45.50`	`bzdoug__________`	`will this be carryed to the other clients?`
`20:45.55`	`bzdoug__________`	`so I can see you rock`
`20:45.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`now get rid of those underscores`
`20:46.48`	`Patlabor2211`	`yes I would send tilt, rot, pos,vec, facing, and rot vel.`
`20:47.14`	`bzdoug__________`	`very cool`
`20:48.13`	`Patlabor2211`	`now wether or not it makes it into something with the word "fllag" in it's name, is yet to be determined`
`20:48.28`	`bzdoug__________`	`huh`
`20:48.40`	`hardwire`	`_________ ?`
`20:48.49`	`bzdoug__________`	`'lo hardwire`
`20:48.54`	`hardwire`	`howdy howdy howdy`
`20:48.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`who?`
`20:48.57`	`Patlabor2211`	`how?`
`20:48.59`	`Patlabor2211`	`where?`
`20:49.05`	`Patlabor2211`	`how many cookies?`
`20:49.09`	`hardwire`	`thats too big`
`20:49.13`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: got your licence yet?`
`20:49.21`	`hardwire`	`:(`
`20:49.23`	`hardwire`	`no`
`20:49.28`	`hardwire`	`but the balloons payload is almost complete`
`20:49.33`	`hardwire`	`all we need is power`
`20:49.34`	`bzdoug_`	`cool`
`20:49.39`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: fuel cells`
`20:49.45`	`bzdoug_`	`or a small reactor :)`
`20:49.48`	`hardwire`	`fuel cells > 1 lbps`
`20:49.52`	`Patlabor2211`	`so the kentucky destruction bomb is almost complete?`
`20:49.57`	`hardwire`	`fuel cells > 100 bucks`
`20:50.02`	`bzdoug_`	`ick`
`20:50.10`	`bzdoug_`	`laptop fuel cells :)`
`20:50.14`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`20:50.21`	`hardwire`	`those will be as much as laptops themselves ;)`
`20:50.24`	`bzdoug_`	`yea`
`20:50.28`	`hardwire`	`and of course probably not allowed on airplanes`
`20:50.29`	`hardwire`	`oh well`
`20:50.36`	`bzdoug_`	`what ARE you gonna use for power? microwave beams?`
`20:50.38`	`Patlabor2211`	`being able to explode and all`
`20:50.46`	`bzdoug_`	`hehe`
`20:50.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`doug, problaby ohhh say" bateries"`
`20:50.55`	`hardwire`	`bzdoug_: we were thinking of just keeping a constant high power ion laser at it`
`20:51.05`	`hardwire`	`then send up 10,000 volts on the beam`
`20:51.12`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: ah, thats even cooler`
`20:51.16`	`hardwire`	`yeah..`
`20:51.18`	`bzdoug_`	`zap all the birds`
`20:51.18`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`20:51.20`	`Patlabor2211`	`aim well`
`20:51.21`	`hardwire`	`except.. we really don't have that stuff`
`20:51.24`	`hardwire`	`:)`
`20:51.30`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`20:51.33`	`hardwire`	`so we are gonna use Lithium Polymer batteries`
`20:51.37`	`bzdoug_`	`cool`
`20:51.46`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: is it gonna head east?`
`20:51.52`	`hardwire`	`its gonna go with the wind`
`20:51.53`	`hardwire`	`:)`
`20:52.05`	`hardwire`	`if I have my way about it... I will be adding servo controlled wings/flaps`
`20:52.06`	`captain_proton`	`lithium are tolerable batteries =)`
`20:52.12`	`hardwire`	`but my partner on this thinks its overkill ;)`
`20:52.16`	`bzdoug_`	`if I get my TNC up and running by then I could listen in`
`20:52.23`	`hardwire`	`bzdoug_: you might`
`20:52.26`	`hardwire`	`how far east are you?`
`20:52.28`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: lol`
`20:52.37`	`hardwire`	`you could always just tune into aprs.bogomip.com`
`20:52.44`	`hardwire`	`with xastir`
`20:52.48`	`hardwire`	`and get the stream from there`
`20:52.53`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: kentucky, but if you set the APRS to REALY WIDE WIDE, it should bonch worldwide`
`20:53.00`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm, relay*`
`20:53.04`	`hardwire`	`yeah`
`20:53.09`	`bzdoug_`	`I think`
`20:53.09`	`hardwire`	`it will be going to RELAY WIDE`
`20:53.13`	`bzdoug_`	`ah`
`20:53.14`	`hardwire`	`I dunno about WIDE WIDE`
`20:53.30`	`hardwire`	`with WIDE WIDE I can't send it fast enouggh :)`
`20:53.34`	`bzdoug_`	`haha`
`20:53.46`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`20:53.46`	`hardwire`	`we were actually thinking of just having it PTP with us`
`20:53.54`	`hardwire`	`like off of the giant antenna on our house`
`20:53.59`	`bzdoug_`	`haha`
`20:54.07`	`hardwire`	`then relay it that way`
`20:54.11`	`bzdoug_`	`yea..`
`20:54.13`	`hardwire`	`but.. there are APRS repeaters here`
`20:54.17`	`bzdoug_`	`but the whole APRS thing is perfect for this`
`20:54.19`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`20:54.22`	`hardwire`	`the maintainers are snobs however`
`20:54.30`	`bzdoug_`	`haha`
`20:54.31`	`hardwire`	`they won't let us do < 1 minute beacons`
`20:54.41`	`hardwire`	`interval`
`20:54.46`	`bzdoug_`	`ugh`
`20:54.53`	`bzdoug_`	`hah`
`20:54.56`	`hardwire`	`so thats why I am gonna do PTP`
`20:55.01`	`bzdoug_`	`huh`
`20:55.12`	`hardwire`	`KC0MYM-1 -> KC0MYM-0`
`20:55.22`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`20:55.38`	`bzdoug_`	`roommate?`
`20:55.44`	`scanline`	`ion laser :)`
`20:55.52`	`hardwire`	`right now the SBC and servo controller for the camera, and the camera are in the primary payload`
`20:55.56`	`bzdoug_`	`Nathan isnt it?`
`20:56.04`	`hardwire`	`Nathan :)`
`20:56.05`	`hardwire`	`si`
`20:56.11`	`hardwire`	`scanline will be meeting him ina few hours`
`20:56.12`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: ooh, hows it gonna download hte images`
`20:56.22`	`hardwire`	`bzdoug_ storing them`
`20:56.30`	`hardwire`	`I was thinking that I might write a daemon to SSTV it down`
`20:56.35`	`bzdoug_`	`ah`
`20:56.40`	`bzdoug_`	`soundcard packet then?`
`20:56.46`	`hardwire`	`the other option is we are at 18 miles`
`20:56.49`	`hardwire`	`SSTV rules`
`20:57.03`	`bzdoug_`	`hehe`
`20:57.03`	`hardwire`	`if we are around 18 miles.. I can grab my 400mw 2.4ghz amp`
`20:57.04`	`bzdoug_`	`http://www.john.hansen.net/PICTNC.htm`
`20:57.09`	`hardwire`	`and my 24dbi antenna`
`20:57.12`	`bzdoug_`	`ah`
`20:57.13`	`hardwire`	`and fuck FCC for a few hours`
`20:57.16`	`bzdoug_`	`LOL`
`20:57.27`	`hardwire`	`but be able to stream all the data back down off of a multicast`
`20:57.58`	`hardwire`	`its just really really really hard to multicast a single image off of a sparse line`
`20:58.12`	`bzdoug_`	`heh`
`20:58.14`	`hardwire`	`I suppose I could uuencode it and mark the lines`
`20:58.30`	`hardwire`	`SSTV rules if you have not played with it yet`
`20:58.43`	`hardwire`	`I sent a picture of my roomates dog over the radios a while ago`
`20:58.50`	`bzdoug_`	`there is a SSTV with APRS`
`20:58.53`	`hardwire`	`it was like 20spf`
`20:59.09`	`bzdoug_`	`SSTV with a APRS header, it contains all the info`
`20:59.14`	`hardwire`	`err`
`20:59.22`	`hardwire`	`that means it is digitized`
`20:59.25`	`hardwire`	`SSTV is all analog`
`20:59.41`	`bzdoug_`	`captain_proton: hmm, 5 watts max`
`20:59.44`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`20:59.56`	`hardwire`	`cappy: you can listen at 1000 watts.. just not xmit :)`
`21:00.09`	`bzdoug_`	`line of site to the the space station HOOAAA :P`
`21:00.23`	`hardwire`	`ham heads have the same 802.1b restrictions because they are FCC liscenced for the entire US reagion`
`21:00.25`	`hardwire`	`region`
`21:00.25`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`21:00.26`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: how about ATV?`
`21:00.36`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: yea..`
`21:00.44`	`bzdoug_`	`not if your in mexico or something :P`
`21:00.54`	`captain_proton`	`hardwire: nope - most 802.11b is restricted by part 15 - ham get fewer restrictions for that same band`
`21:01.00`	`hardwire`	`captain_proton: the same reason you can't just walk around with a 10ghz jammer in your pocket.. to fuck with coppers radar guns`
`21:01.25`	`hardwire`	`captain_proton: hmm.. got docs on the hamhead 802.11b stuff?`
`21:01.35`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: "but I dint know thing little thing can jam police radar guns in the nearest 50 miles`
`21:01.58`	`hardwire`	`bzdoug_: I haven't looked at ATV`
`21:02.13`	`captain_proton`	`hardwire: not really - all i know is that hams get something like 200 watts in 2.2-2.5GHz`
`21:02.21`	`hardwire`	`jebus!`
`21:02.24`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: thats a good way, very nice way to send images at 30 FPS :)`
`21:02.30`	`bzdoug_`	`captain_proton???`
`21:02.32`	`hardwire`	`bzdoug_: linkage?`
`21:02.34`	`bzdoug_`	`captain_proton: thats not right`
`21:02.38`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: 440 band`
`21:02.54`	`captain_proton`	`depending on the license, of course =)`
`21:02.56`	`hardwire`	`captain_proton: thats a good way to get cataracts :)`
`21:04.22`	`bzdoug_`	`Unless otherwise noted, the maximum power output is 1500 watts PEP.`
`21:04.24`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`21:04.36`	`bzdoug_`	`All modes and licensees (except Novices) are authorized on the following bands [FCC Rules, Part 97.301(a)]:`
`21:04.42`	`bzdoug_`	`2300-2310 MHz`
`21:04.42`	`bzdoug_`	`2390-2450 MHz`
`21:04.49`	`bzdoug_`	`nothing to say about power output`
`21:05.26`	`hardwire`	`Tx: fm KC0MYM-1 to KC0MYM-0 UI^ pid=F0`
`21:05.26`	`hardwire`	`hi`
`21:05.28`	`*** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-202-1-3-32.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`21:05.28`	`hardwire`	`:)`
`21:05.33`	`hardwire`	`output from soundmodem driver`
`21:05.39`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm, thats the wrong freq any way`
`21:05.50`	`bzdoug_`	`hehe`
`21:05.58`	`bzdoug_`	`All Amateurs except Novices:`
`21:05.59`	`bzdoug_`	`1240-1300 MHz: CW, Phone, Image, MCW, RTTY/Data`
`21:06.40`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: ever hear of the PICTNC?`
`21:06.48`	`bzdoug_`	`http://www.john.hansen.net/PICTNC.htm`
`21:06.53`	`hardwire`	`http://www.northcountryradio.com/Kitpages/atv12mk2.htm`
`21:06.54`	`hardwire`	`jebus`
`21:06.59`	`bzdoug_`	`I just put one together`
`21:07.05`	`hardwire`	`neat`
`21:07.08`	`hardwire`	`does it work well?`
`21:07.19`	`hardwire`	`AFSK 1200 ?`
`21:07.20`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`21:07.32`	`bzdoug_`	`yea..., KISS mode only.. but I cant seem to get it to recieve`
`21:07.42`	`hardwire`	`is PTT still hot?`
`21:07.54`	`bzdoug_`	`I need the cables too, DIN>>>MINI-DIN`
`21:07.58`	`hardwire`	`ah`
`21:08.01`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: no...`
`21:08.12`	`hardwire`	`parallel`
`21:08.15`	`hardwire`	`l`
`21:08.18`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`21:08.18`	`bzdoug_`	`lol`
`21:08.54`	`bzdoug_`	`hardwire: ATV would be the way to go though, you would need a cable ready TV to recieve it though`
`21:08.58`	`bzdoug_`	`captain_proton: thats cheating`
`21:09.17`	`bzdoug_`	`and they dont work anyway`
`21:09.28`	`bzdoug_`	`300 feet range or something..`
`21:09.53`	`hardwire`	`bsdoug I don't have enouggh power to do ATV`
`21:10.03`	`hardwire`	`man I can type`
`21:10.11`	`bzdoug_`	`hehe`
`21:10.13`	`bzdoug_`	`power?`
`21:10.16`	`bzdoug_`	`oh`
`21:10.18`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`21:10.22`	`bzdoug_`	`have it trigger on and off`
`21:10.29`	`bzdoug_`	`you have 8 pins on the LPT port`
`21:10.37`	`Patlabor2211`	`ahhh glad to see the post rate on bzbb is up`
`21:12.05`	`bzdoug_`	`ooh`
`21:17.13`	`captain_proton`	`capasitor?`
`21:18.23`	`Patlabor2211`	`it's gum with 2 wires in it`
`21:18.52`	`captain_proton`	`ohh`
`21:22.24`	`Patlabor2211`	`since they wont' let him play with real electricity, it "works" for what he does.`
`21:30.09`	`Patlabor2211`	`he's gone`
`21:30.26`	`captain_proton`	`went to go get a capasitor`
`21:30.27`	`hardwire`	`?`
`21:30.31`	`scanline`	`eep`
`21:30.36`	`Patlabor2211`	`doug, said he went to the shack`
`21:30.46`	`Patlabor2211`	`for "capasitors"`
`21:30.59`	`hardwire`	`y0`
`21:41.03`	`*** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-117-18.hispeed.ch)`
`21:44.48`	`Patlabor2211`	`gahhh, why isn't the roll rate smothing working`
`21:57.27`	`captain_proton`	`argg`
`21:58.15`	`Patlabor2211`	`then it would not be a secret would it?`
`21:58.21`	`captain_proton`	`nope`
`22:00.27`	`captain_proton`	`but you'd all think we were insane`
`22:15.01`	`Patlabor2211`	`you are insane`
`22:18.30`	`*** join/#bzflag stibnite (stephanie@allaboutuptime-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net)`
`22:31.05`	`*** join/#bzflag paul ([cMDpPbEto@hibernia.jakma.org)`
`22:54.52`	`bzdoug_`	`its not like I am the only one that spells bad`
`22:55.27`	`Patlabor2211`	`nope`
`22:55.36`	`Patlabor2211`	`but they make phun of all who speeel bad`
`22:55.40`	`Patlabor2211`	`it's the rules`
`22:55.54`	`Patlabor2211`	`says so in section 6 of the bylaws`
`22:57.09`	`Cell`	`eggplant, tasty`
`22:57.09`	`bzdoug_`	`bylaws?`
`22:57.14`	`Noodleman_work`	`insult Patlabor2211`
`22:57.15`	`Noodlebot`	`Patlabor2211, thy brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit at the end of a voyage.`
`22:57.21`	`Noodleman_work`	`insult bzdoug_`
`22:57.27`	`bzdoug_`	`what "bylaws"`
`22:57.30`	`Noodleman_work`	`ah, forgot`
`22:57.37`	`bzdoug_`	`Noodleman_work: ah ah ah, it wont do that`
`22:57.52`	`Noodleman_work`	`it has a "noise cancelling feature" :-)`
`22:57.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`the ones on the wall`
`22:58.28`	`bzdoug_`	`lol`
`22:59.11`	`Patlabor2211`	`now I wonder if this boddy thing will compile on linux`
`22:59.15`	`Patlabor2211`	`that's gonna be the fun part`
`22:59.16`	`captain_proton`	`boddy?`
`22:59.21`	`bzdoug_`	`will it work in bzflag?`
`22:59.22`	`Patlabor2211`	`bloddy`
`22:59.27`	`bzdoug_`	`bloody he means`
`22:59.31`	`bzdoug_`	`:P`
`22:59.35`	`Patlabor2211`	`define "work"`
`23:00.09`	`bzdoug_`	`will it be fully usable in bzflag?`
`23:00.18`	`Patlabor2211`	`define "usable"`
`23:00.26`	`bzdoug_`	`fully`
`23:00.29`	`Patlabor2211`	`and I am a little unclear on the word "in"`
`23:00.42`	`bzdoug_`	`~dict usable`
`23:01.01`	`Patlabor2211`	`dono does bzflag have a CBaseGameLogic class?`
`23:01.43`	`Patlabor2211`	`boom, he can be taught :)`
`23:01.54`	`bzdoug_`	`heh`
`23:02.52`	`bzdoug_`	`it must be pissed at you for being pissed at it`
`23:03.06`	`Patlabor2211`	`naw it was pissy long before I got mad at it`
`23:03.12`	`bzdoug_`	`ah, ok`
`23:03.40`	`Patlabor2211`	`hmm I need to see this in thrid person`
`23:04.50`	`Noodleman_work`	`~spell speel`
`23:04.56`		`possible spellings for speel: spell spiel sepal Peel peel speer speed steel spill spoil spool speller Spiegel Pele supple Perl spew spree suppl repel`
`23:05.06`	`Patlabor2211`	`dood even if you spell right someone will still find away to make fun of you.`
`23:05.34`	`bzdoug_`	`someday I will be perfect`
`23:05.49`	`Patlabor2211`	`hanginin aournd with Cell much?`
`23:06.19`	`Noodleman_work`	`Patlabor2211: haha`
`23:06.20`	`Patlabor2211`	`isn't that prefect?`
`23:06.35`	`Cell`	`i want candy`
`23:06.44`	`Noodleman_work`	`go steal it from a baby`
`23:06.46`	`bzdoug_`	`ebay`
`23:06.46`	`Patlabor2211`	`we all want candy`
`23:07.06`	`Patlabor2211`	`open source candy`
`23:07.15`	`Noodleman_work`	`opencola`
`23:07.31`	`Patlabor2211`	`I saw that once`
`23:07.35`	`Patlabor2211`	`how does it taste?`
`23:07.36`	`Noodleman_work`	`ftp://ftp.noodleroni.com/pub/otherstuff/soft_drink_formula.pdf`
`23:07.52`	`Noodleman_work`	`my version of it tastes like a fruity cola`
`23:08.19`	`Noodleman_work`	`i don't use lavender or neroli, and i use sucanat instead of white sugar`
`23:09.02`	`Cell`	`shrug`
`23:09.12`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm, my moms mac has a PS/2 port on it...`
`23:09.12`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`23:09.19`	`Noodleman_work`	`hah`
`23:09.19`	`Cell`	`kewl`
`23:09.44`	`bzdoug_`	`very nice for buying optical mice, since ADB optical mice are none existant`
`23:09.56`	`Cell`	`USB Mouse`
`23:10.02`	`bzdoug_`	`Making soft drinks is not for the faint of heart, nor the dirty of finger....`
`23:10.05`	`bzdoug_`	`no USB`
`23:10.07`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`23:10.09`	`bzdoug_`	`too old`
`23:10.24`	`Cell`	`pah`
`23:10.42`	`captain_proton`	`usb owns your pasty undersunned ass`
`23:10.47`	`bzdoug_`	`Read them. Know them. Follow them. Tattoo them to your backside.`
`23:10.57`	`bzdoug_`	`captain_proton: oh? I dint relize that`
`23:11.06`	`Cell`	`pshaw`
`23:11.21`	`bzdoug_`	`serial com ports forever!`
`23:11.48`	`Patlabor2211`	`doug USB does own your ass, I've seen the invoice.`
`23:12.00`	`bzdoug_`	`huh`
`23:12.07`	`bzdoug_`	`must have gotten lost in the mail`
`23:12.14`	`Patlabor2211`	`you don't get it`
`23:12.16`	`Patlabor2211`	`the owner does`
`23:12.23`	`bzdoug_`	`oh`
`23:12.25`	`Patlabor2211`	`you just get owned`
`23:13.19`	`Patlabor2211`	`except for 9, got a special place for 9`
`23:13.22`	`bzdoug_`	`no! dont do that!!!`
`23:13.27`	`Patlabor2211`	`allready done`
`23:13.35`	`captain_proton`	`bzdoug_: you're using rs232 and you're calling usb too old?`
`23:13.47`	`bzdoug_`	`captain_proton: the mac is too old for USB`
`23:13.54`	`captain_proton`	`oh`
`23:13.58`	`captain_proton`	`so you're just a cheap bastard`
`23:14.00`	`bzdoug_`	`system 7.5 doesnt really support USB`
`23:14.03`	`Patlabor2211`	`get a card`
`23:14.05`	`Cell`	`hm marshmallow`
`23:14.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`upgrade`
`23:14.16`	`bzdoug_`	`ah`
`23:16.33`	`captain_proton`	`omg`
`23:16.38`	`captain_proton`	`* bzdoug_ is away: Names Perfect... Ford Perfect`
`23:16.43`	`captain_proton`	`Ford Perfect? are you ON CRACK?`
`23:18.16`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`23:18.19`	`bzdoug_`	`Am I?`
`23:18.31`	`captain_proton`	`hm i see Patlabor2211 already noticed`
`23:18.44`	`Patlabor2211`	`doug read the books`
`23:18.56`	`bzdoug_`	`about a year ago`
`23:23.34`	`Patlabor2211`	`ML?`
`23:23.51`	`captain_proton`	`yep`
`23:24.07`	`Patlabor2211`	`no what is it?`
`23:24.30`	`captain_proton`	`a language`
`23:24.58`	`Patlabor2211`	`a good one?`
`23:26.20`	`captain_proton`	`yah`
`23:30.07`	`*** join/#bzflag faz___ (~faz@M288P019.dipool.highway.telekom.at)`
`23:32.26`	`*** join/#bzflag victorvdl (~victor@ip59.125-173-207.eli-du.nwlink.com)`
`23:33.13`	`bzdoug_`	`Now you too can get DSL-like speeds on any dial-up connection for a one-time low fee. That's right. Pay only once and DSL-like speeds can be yours forever!`
`23:40.36`	`Patlabor2211`	`were you here when creeper said he wanted to get a satalite dish so he could get dsl?`
`23:40.49`	`Patlabor2211`	`he was gonn make one and 'steal" it`
`23:43.30`	`*** join/#bzflag paul ([CJAQfpDcS@hibernia.jakma.org)`
`23:44.40`	`bzdoug_`	`hahaha`
`23:46.15`	`Patlabor2211`	`hmm I need something that will convert a dsp or a .mak file to a regular make file`
`23:57.15`	`Noodleman`	`gentoo looks pretty schweet so far...`

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