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`00:11.21`	`*** join/#bzflag faz___ (~faz@M290P012.dipool.highway.telekom.at)`
`00:19.57`	`*** join/#bzflag fiberchunks (~fiberchun@237.14.252.64.snet.net)`
`00:20.13`	`fiberchunks`	`hey all -- has my server been offline for some time now?`
`00:20.42`	`fiberchunks`	`allo?`
`00:20.51`	`Patlabor2211`	`hell yeah`
`00:21.13`	`Patlabor2211`	`bout 2 days now`
`00:21.31`	`fiberchunks`	`dammit -- fucking ISP`
`00:21.47`	`fiberchunks`	`Patlabor2211: we MUST get the stuff transferred to your control / machines`
`00:21.55`	`Patlabor2211`	`it is ready for you`
`00:22.04`	`Patlabor2211`	`fixed up the permisions today`
`00:22.26`	`Patlabor2211`	`test board is even runnin`
`00:22.27`	`Patlabor2211`	`http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/bb2/`
`00:22.32`	`fiberchunks`	`cool -- I'll try and get it backed up and mailed off to you -- or you could do a backup yourself as admin, and upload it to your machine`
`00:22.50`	`Patlabor2211`	`I need the avatars and stuff`
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`00:23.03`	`Patlabor2211`	`I was thinking we could just copy all the stuff as is, make sure it runs`
`00:23.13`	`Patlabor2211`	`then to a test upgrade later`
`00:23.43`	`fiberchunks`	`cool -- I'm building a new bedroom for my kid -- but I WILL get to it this weekend -- I think I'll change my ISP once I get the board taken care of`
`00:24.09`	`Patlabor2211`	`how large do you think the entire thing is?`
`00:24.22`	`fiberchunks`	`5.some meg`
`00:24.49`	`Patlabor2211`	`hell zip it up and just send me the entire thing`
`00:25.07`	`fiberchunks`	`will do that soon (hopefully tonight)`
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`00:44.15`	`Patlabor2211`	`Jorm you around?`
`01:08.17`	`Patlabor2211`	`arrggg the docs on this stuff suck`
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`01:12.34`	`Patlabor2211`	`sql help files blow`
`02:08.09`	`*** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~Patlabor2@adsl-67-114-230-166.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)`
`02:11.25`	`Jormungandr`	`heya`
`02:11.32`	`Patlabor221`	`sup`
`02:11.45`	`Jormungandr`	`just relaxing :)`
`02:11.50`	`Patlabor221`	`cool`
`02:11.57`	`Patlabor221`	`brb, skin restart`
`02:12.00`	`Jormungandr`	`okie`
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`02:13.20`	`Patlabor221`	`now realy this is a nice IRC client`
`02:13.39`	`Jormungandr`	`which?`
`02:13.45`	`Patlabor221`	`trillian pro`
`02:13.51`	`Patlabor221`	`all chats and irc in one app`
`02:13.54`	`Jormungandr`	`ah`
`02:14.18`	`Jormungandr`	`trillian is kinda neat... since I am not a big windows person, I don't use it though.`
`02:14.38`	`Patlabor221`	`I like the loging, when I reopen a window, it prepends the log lines`
`02:15.34`	`Patlabor221`	`is there a limit on apache for how large a HTML upload is?`
`02:15.54`	`Jormungandr`	`probably`
`02:16.13`	`Patlabor221`	`any idea how to set it?`
`02:16.52`	`Jormungandr`	`not offhand... I use a php function to upload on my portal site.`
`02:17.01`	`Patlabor221`	`that's what I'm trying to do`
`02:17.04`	`Jormungandr`	`how big do yo need?`
`02:17.06`	`Patlabor221`	`and it says the upload is too big`
`02:17.10`	`Jormungandr`	`ah`
`02:17.11`	`Jormungandr`	`hrm`
`02:17.14`	`Jormungandr`	`php.ini?`
`02:17.17`	`Patlabor221`	`engouth for the backupup file`
`02:17.21`	`Patlabor221`	`I shall look`
`02:17.53`	`Patlabor221`	`we are trying to move the bzbb`
`02:18.15`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:18.24`	`Patlabor221`	`so I did a db backup`
`02:18.27`	`Patlabor221`	`that made a sql file`
`02:18.42`	`Patlabor221`	`and now I'm trying to restore on my server but it's not leting me :(`
`02:18.50`	`Jormungandr`	`what is it telling you?`
`02:19.09`	`Jormungandr`	`and is it a true database dump? (mysqldump)`
`02:19.18`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't know`
`02:19.39`	`Jormungandr`	`a few possibilities...`
`02:19.39`	`Patlabor221`	`it's from a "backup database" feature in phpbb`
`02:19.45`	`Patlabor221`	`I did the "full backup"`
`02:19.57`	`Patlabor221`	`they say it can be restored with the mysql command line`
`02:20.01`	`Jormungandr`	`there is probably an easier way.`
`02:20.14`	`Jormungandr`	`ah.. then it probably is a dump`
`02:20.19`	`Jormungandr`	`can you read it with less?`
`02:20.28`	`Jormungandr`	`and it's basically mysql commands?`
`02:21.21`	`Patlabor221`	`it's a text file`
`02:21.37`	`Jormungandr`	`cool... does it look like sql commands?`
`02:22.11`	`Patlabor221`	`let me DL it and look`
`02:22.14`	`Jormungandr`	`okay.`
`02:23.47`	`Patlabor221`	`phpBB Backup Script`
`02:23.47`	`Patlabor221`	`# Dump of tables for bzbb`
`02:23.51`	`Patlabor221`	`that kinda stuff`
`02:23.59`	`Patlabor221`	`INSERT INTO phpbb_config (config_name, config_value)`
`02:24.14`	`Jormungandr`	`okay... are the tables already there on your computer?`
`02:24.21`	`Jormungandr`	`in your sql database?`
`02:24.23`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't think so`
`02:24.29`	`Jormungandr`	`then this won't work.`
`02:24.36`	`Patlabor221`	`but I told it to expoport data and tables`
`02:24.43`	`Jormungandr`	`do you have access to command line on server where bzbb is?`
`02:24.58`	`Patlabor221`	`sadly no`
`02:25.05`	`Jormungandr`	`does it have "create table" commands in that file?`
`02:25.31`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`02:25.57`	`Jormungandr`	`then it WILL work.`
`02:26.01`	`Patlabor221`	`cool`
`02:26.11`	`Jormungandr`	`does the database exist at all on your mysql?`
`02:26.23`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`02:26.37`	`Patlabor221`	`when I try to use there restore I get this`
`02:26.37`	`Patlabor221`	`Request Entity Too Large`
`02:26.37`	`Patlabor221`	`The requested resource`
`02:26.37`	`Patlabor221`	`does not allow request data with POST requests, or the amount of data provided in the request exceeds the capacity limit.`
`02:26.57`	`Jormungandr`	`how are you trying to import?`
`02:27.07`	`Jormungandr`	`from the bb interface?`
`02:27.09`	`Patlabor221`	`they have a "restore" fucntion`
`02:27.11`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`02:27.27`	`Jormungandr`	`you probably need to use mysql command line program`
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`02:28.12`	`Jormungandr`	`edit that file and insert "use whateveryourdatabasenameis;" minus the quotes. as the first line`
`02:28.15`	`Patlabor221`	`I looked at it's help and and didn't see antyhing intuititve`
`02:29.06`	`Jormungandr`	`then do "mysql -p < thatfilename.txt" then enter your sql root password.`
`02:29.07`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`02:29.14`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh coll`
`02:29.32`	`Jormungandr`	`hopefully it will import seamlessly.`
`02:31.08`	`Patlabor221`	`how do I save and quit in vi again?`
`02:31.14`	`Jormungandr`	`:wq`
`02:31.32`	`Jormungandr`	`hit escape first if you are in insert mode`
`02:32.29`	`Patlabor221`	`it's pondering`
`02:32.38`	`Jormungandr`	`the mysql command line?`
`02:32.44`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`02:32.48`	`Jormungandr`	`if it's a big file, it can take a while.`
`02:32.55`	`Patlabor221`	`1.4 megs :)`
`02:32.59`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:33.04`	`Patlabor221`	`it's the entire bzbb as of like 4:00`
`02:33.10`	`Jormungandr`	`cool`
`02:33.45`	`Patlabor221`	`fiber is going to get me the avatars and smileys, then I'll do this again and we should be good`
`02:33.53`	`Jormungandr`	`cool`
`02:34.16`	`Jormungandr`	`this sort of thing isn't hard, you just need to be around mysql a bit more, and it'll come pretty naturally.`
`02:34.31`	`Patlabor221`	`I didn't even realise it was a script`
`02:34.39`	`Jormungandr`	`that's the beauty of sql`
`02:34.46`	`Patlabor221`	`do I have to restart mysql perhaps after?`
`02:34.50`	`Jormungandr`	`an export tells the database software how to add it.`
`02:34.59`	`Jormungandr`	`if the database already existed, then no.`
`02:35.09`	`Jormungandr`	`only if you create a database do you need to restart.`
`02:35.29`	`Patlabor221`	`if you go to http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/bb2/`
`02:35.36`	`Patlabor221`	`how many forums do you see?`
`02:36.11`	`Jormungandr`	`just a few. hrm.`
`02:36.20`	`Jormungandr`	`did the command line finish?`
`02:36.27`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`02:36.40`	`Jormungandr`	`do mysql -p and enter the command line interface.`
`02:37.02`	`Jormungandr`	`then "use databasename"`
`02:37.03`	`Jormungandr`	`;`
`02:37.24`	`Jormungandr`	`then "show tables;"`
`02:37.49`	`Patlabor221`	`didn't seem to do anything`
`02:37.59`	`Jormungandr`	`did it as for your password?`
`02:38.03`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`02:38.10`	`Jormungandr`	`show tables; shows?`
`02:38.15`	`Patlabor221`	`nothing`
`02:38.19`	`Patlabor221`	`the change db worked`
`02:38.26`	`Patlabor221`	`mysql> show tables`
`02:38.26`	`Patlabor221`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:38.28`	`Jormungandr`	`show databases;`
`02:38.34`	`Jormungandr`	`you need ;`
`02:38.53`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhhhh`
`02:39.00`	`Jormungandr`	`every line needs ; at the end`
`02:39.29`	`Patlabor221`	`shows a boat load of tables`
`02:39.42`	`Jormungandr`	`do you see a table of forums?`
`02:39.59`	`Patlabor221`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:40.11`	`Jormungandr`	`select * from phpbb2_forums;`
`02:41.15`	`Jormungandr`	`you MIGHT have to start the database from scratch, and import that file.`
`02:41.29`	`Patlabor221`	`I can if need be`
`02:41.34`	`Patlabor221`	`since I made other fourms`
`02:41.40`	`Patlabor221`	`let me play with it`
`02:41.44`	`Jormungandr`	`okie`
`02:41.45`	`Patlabor221`	`you got me way closer`
`02:41.46`	`Patlabor221`	`thanks`
`02:41.53`	`Jormungandr`	`do yo usee stuff with select * from phpbb2_forums;`
`02:42.09`	`Patlabor221`	`no got an erroe in sql syntac`
`02:42.14`	`Patlabor221`	`but I may have messed up`
`02:42.23`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:42.28`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah it's the origonal data`
`02:42.30`	`Patlabor221`	`not the new`
`02:42.32`	`Jormungandr`	`mysql should have tab completion`
`02:43.11`	`Jormungandr`	`ah... then you might rename database then let it create it new with the import.`
`02:43.33`	`Jormungandr`	`you'd have to add the create command to the file before "use databasename;"`
`02:45.05`	`Patlabor221`	`well it's actualy a crap db so I'm making a real one`
`02:45.19`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:53.05`	`Patlabor221`	`whoot!!!!`
`02:53.06`	`Patlabor221`	`http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/bb2/`
`02:53.34`	`Jormungandr`	`most excellent :)`
`02:53.47`	`Patlabor221`	`just need the avatars`
`02:53.51`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`02:54.05`	`Patlabor221`	`rememberd that my test bb had a difrent table header then fiberused`
`02:54.14`	`Jormungandr`	`ah`
`02:54.16`	`Patlabor221`	`phpbb2_ instead of phpbb_`
`02:54.20`	`Jormungandr`	`oh.`
`02:54.22`	`Jormungandr`	`that'd do it.`
`02:55.24`	`Jormungandr`	`I need to script sql dumps and archiving from a few different machines.`
`02:55.35`	`Patlabor221`	`now I just need to change it's domain`
`02:55.40`	`Patlabor221`	`it's sending me to the old one`
`02:55.55`	`Jormungandr`	`ah... that should be a board config option.`
`02:56.05`	`Patlabor221`	`well I need to login to config`
`02:56.44`	`Patlabor221`	`it has to be in one of the files`
`02:56.51`	`Jormungandr`	`if the config is in the sql data, you can change it that way. :)`
`02:56.55`	`Patlabor221`	`or in the database`
`02:56.58`	`Jormungandr`	`oh.. maybe config.php?`
`02:57.03`	`Patlabor221`	`looking at the files now`
`02:57.42`	`Patlabor221`	`can I grep the database for the servername?`
`02:58.12`	`Jormungandr`	`you could probably grep that file for it, then figure it out from there.`
`02:59.37`	`Patlabor221`	`found it in a database`
`02:59.47`	`Jormungandr`	`cool`
`02:59.48`	`Patlabor221`	`how do I change a field?`
`03:00.08`	`Jormungandr`	`update command. I am on phone`
`03:00.16`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh sorry :(`
`03:00.21`	`Jormungandr`	`no biggie. :)`
`03:00.27`	`Jormungandr`	`friend just called.`
`03:00.29`	`Jormungandr`	`she babbles`
`03:06.28`	`doughecka`	`babble babble babble`
`03:06.30`	`doughecka`	`:P`
`03:06.52`	`doughecka`	`wow, I can tell, over an hour`
`03:06.52`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`03:08.05`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm I don't quite get the syntax of the command`
`03:11.22`	`Jormungandr`	`she usually talks for a long time... I can help you if you can't find it in a reasonable time. :)`
`03:11.57`	`Jormungandr`	`I think there is also a replace command.`
`03:12.03`	`Patlabor221`	`well I just cna't figure out wha the "columname" is`
`03:12.11`	`Patlabor221`	`well tell her I said hi.`
`03:12.12`	`Patlabor221`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:12.16`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`03:12.18`	`doughecka`	`me too`
`03:12.31`	`doughecka`	`exept, tell her I said "hello" :P`
`03:12.33`	`Jormungandr`	`she just got a HUGE promotion`
`03:12.42`	`Patlabor221`	`wow`
`03:12.44`	`doughecka`	`ooh`
`03:12.46`	`Patlabor221`	`like empress of the world?`
`03:12.50`	`Patlabor221`	`cus that would be cool`
`03:13.02`	`doughecka`	`immensly`
`03:13.02`	`Jormungandr`	`like worker bee to state property manager`
`03:13.07`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`03:13.17`	`Patlabor221`	`wow`
`03:13.22`	`Patlabor221`	`that is rather good`
`03:13.26`	`Patlabor221`	`tell her 'grats"`
`03:13.34`	`Jormungandr`	`will do`
`03:13.43`	`doughecka`	`congratulations from me :P`
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`03:18.56`	`Patlabor221`	`wow`
`03:19.00`	`Patlabor221`	`I actualy figured that out`
`03:19.11`	`doughecka`	`congrats`
`03:19.14`	`Jormungandr`	`w00`
`03:19.47`	`doughecka`	`can someone try out http://www.tawg.org/ and see if the java slows down there computer alot too?`
`03:22.46`	`Patlabor221`	`why would I want to slow down my computer`
`03:22.57`	`Patlabor221`	`mre importantly see if you can log into http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/bb2/`
`03:23.02`	`captain_proton`	`http://www.111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.com/#`
`03:23.05`	`doughecka`	`I want to know if its me or not`
`03:23.28`	`doughecka`	`bzbb works`
`03:23.46`	`doughecka`	`captain_proton: ...`
`03:24.37`	`Patlabor221`	`A-TUPING _MAZING :)_`
`03:24.48`	`doughecka`	`stuuuuupid`
`03:25.17`	`Patlabor221`	`it's you doug`
`03:25.35`	`doughecka`	`uh huh`
`03:25.49`	`Patlabor221`	`no the java thing baka boy`
`03:25.55`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`03:26.05`	`doughecka`	`kewl, I allways wanted slow java`
`03:26.07`	`Patlabor221`	`if your gay , hey that's your own thing`
`03:28.44`	`Patlabor221`	`fiber will be so happy this worked`
`03:28.59`	`Patlabor221`	`the sql stuff does make sense when you look at it`
`03:30.20`	`Jormungandr`	`it's pretty cool.`
`03:30.28`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`03:30.37`	`Patlabor221`	`other then not having the avatars`
`03:30.42`	`Patlabor221`	`it looks like it's all cool now`
`03:30.48`	`Jormungandr`	`Dianna talks too much... but I haven't talked to her in 3 months.`
`03:30.56`	`doughecka`	`basketball`
`03:31.08`	`Patlabor221`	`I just had to change the domain and path for the board and the cookie`
`03:31.31`	`Patlabor221`	`oh rank images are missing`
`03:31.41`	`Patlabor221`	`and you can't click on the "+"`
`03:47.03`	`Patlabor221`	`I am soo geting the hang of this vi stuff`
`03:47.19`	`Jormungandr`	`heh`
`03:48.29`	`Patlabor221`	`and I even set up the virtual dirs to work right when we change the url`
`03:48.35`	`Patlabor221`	`now I just need a redirecter`
`03:50.33`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm guessing I could be realy slick and make a script or something that would set up virtual dirs and the scripts and stuff for me automaticly`
`04:27.32`	`Patlabor221`	`whooot even figured out how to mod templated`
`04:27.35`	`Patlabor221`	`templates even`
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`04:29.33`	`fiberchunks_`	`heya Patlabor221, you around?`
`04:29.39`	`Patlabor221`	`yes :)`
`04:29.46`	`Patlabor221`	`http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/bb2/`
`04:29.50`	`fiberchunks_`	`cool`
`04:30.30`	`Patlabor221`	`had to do the dbmerge using the mysql command line stuff`
`04:30.40`	`Patlabor221`	`and change some things in the db manualy`
`04:30.47`	`Patlabor221`	`like the domain`
`04:30.50`	`Patlabor221`	`but it worked`
`04:31.06`	`Patlabor221`	`working on tweaking the template to let you click on the +`
`04:31.07`	`fiberchunks_`	`loads pretty slow`
`04:31.21`	`Patlabor221`	`realy?`
`04:31.22`	`fiberchunks_`	`lemme tar.gz my files and I'll send em to ya`
`04:31.26`	`fiberchunks_`	`for me, yeah`
`04:31.31`	`Patlabor221`	`odd`
`04:31.40`	`Patlabor221`	`fire for me`
`04:31.50`	`Patlabor221`	`tho I know somone may be hamering the connction`
`04:32.07`	`fiberchunks_`	`I'm pinging at 422 ms though`
`04:32.15`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm that's odd`
`04:32.28`	`Patlabor221`	`then is php running slow?`
`04:32.52`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm does now seem slightly less then peppy`
`04:32.58`	`fiberchunks_`	`could be any number of things really -- like I said, my ISP has been acting funky lately -- may just be a funk router on my end`
`04:33.35`	`fiberchunks_`	`wow --> 13 pos0-0-622M.cr2.LAX1.gblx.net (206.132.112.86) 97.034 ms 95.997 ms 97.982 ms`
`04:33.35`	`fiberchunks_`	`14 pos1-0-0-155M.ar1.LAX1.gblx.net (206.132.112.118) 105.405 ms 104.308 ms 103.689 ms`
`04:33.35`	`fiberchunks_`	`15 Gibbs.s8-1-0-27-0.ar1.LAX1.gblx.net (208.178.67.138) 320.528 ms 366.221 ms 320.699 ms`
`04:33.35`	`fiberchunks_`	`16 208.48.199.215 (208.48.199.215) 387.771 ms 364.864 ms 380.306 ms`
`04:33.57`	`fiberchunks_`	`big jump from pos1 to Gibbs`
`04:34.12`	`Patlabor221`	`that's all inside our ISP too`
`04:34.15`	`Patlabor221`	`gibbs is where it's at`
`04:34.57`	`Patlabor221`	`wonder if our csu/dsu our router is having issues`
`04:35.02`	`fiberchunks_`	`hey, I wish I could travel across the country and back in a 1/3 of a second ;)`
`04:35.12`	`Patlabor221`	`true`
`04:35.23`	`Patlabor221`	`remember when geting 3k a sec was "FAST"`
`04:35.27`	`fiberchunks_`	`heh`
`04:35.39`	`Patlabor221`	`now I complain if I get less then 20`
`04:36.04`	`fiberchunks_`	`well -- do you want me to transfer the dyndns.org domain to point to your ip now -- or wait a while?`
`04:36.34`	`Patlabor221`	`well I would need to do a more recent back up`
`04:36.49`	`Patlabor221`	`and I would like ot make sure the avatars are all there`
`04:36.55`	`fiberchunks_`	`I think a couple of days (mebbe a week from now) might be best -- just so you can slam against the test system and tweak things a bit`
`04:37.02`	`Patlabor221`	`so I'd like to wait just a tad`
`04:37.21`	`fiberchunks_`	`do you _want_ all the anime avatars? or just the uploaded sigs and what not?`
`04:37.33`	`Patlabor221`	`all of it`
`04:37.42`	`Patlabor221`	`well I can get the anime ones if it's too bug`
`04:37.45`	`Patlabor221`	`big`
`04:37.56`	`Patlabor221`	`I at elast need the uploaded ones ( AKA MINE! :) )`
`04:38.04`	`fiberchunks_`	`they are, so I'll let you grab -- besides, it'll be good practice for you ;)`
`04:38.22`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah just need to see where you put them`
`04:39.08`	`Patlabor221`	`what template has the folder code in it?`
`04:39.24`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh I need the ranks too`
`04:39.33`	`fiberchunks_`	`good post in the announcements by the way`
`04:39.44`	`Patlabor221`	`well figured I should let them know`
`04:40.23`	`fiberchunks_`	`ah -- the directory bzbb/templates/Cobalt <-- has all template related garbage in it`
`04:40.49`	`Patlabor221`	`tho if this works as well as it looks like its going to work, then all they shoud see is a small change in the logo, the need to log in again, and maybe a difrent path at the top`
`04:40.49`	`fiberchunks_`	`hrm - bzbb/images <-- contains all the ranks (I think)`
`04:40.51`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah but what one`
`04:41.07`	`fiberchunks_`	`whaddya mean, what one?`
`04:41.13`	`Patlabor221`	`what template`
`04:41.24`	`Patlabor221`	`found the one for the header and got that moded`
`04:41.51`	`Patlabor221`	`bahhh you don't have folder browsing on :)`
`04:41.58`	`Patlabor221`	`do I have a shell acct there?`
`04:42.24`	`fiberchunks_`	`no`
`04:42.36`	`Patlabor221`	`then I must suck`
`04:42.41`	`fiberchunks_`	`here -- lemme go downstairs and resume this conversation :)`
`04:42.47`	`fiberchunks_`	`that's where all the goodies are`
`04:42.51`	`Patlabor221`	`no prob`
`04:43.39`	`fiberchunks`	`mkay, here I is`
`04:44.46`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`04:45.22`	`Patlabor221`	`dood avatar dir is only 156k :)`
`04:47.16`	`fiberchunks`	`2.1 meg total directory -- mailing directly`
`04:47.22`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`04:47.31`	`fiberchunks`	`tar.gz format -- Jeffm@gibbscan.com <-- is that right?`
`04:47.39`	`Patlabor221`	`cam not can`
`04:47.45`	`fiberchunks`	`cam -- mkay`
`04:48.40`	`Patlabor221`	`sadly all lowercase it can be read GibbsScam`
`04:48.54`	`Patlabor221`	`let me run home now`
`04:49.00`	`Patlabor221`	`and I'll get my mail when I get ther`
`04:49.04`	`Patlabor221`	`still at work :(`
`04:49.21`	`fiberchunks`	`on it's way`
`04:49.51`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`04:49.55`	`fiberchunks`	`cool -- there is a kind warning about fiddling with some of the things -- as I have heavily modded the board (outside of just template stuff)`
`04:50.30`	`fiberchunks`	`such as: the quick link bar (just hardcoded), and most importantly -- the registered vs. guest differentiation`
`04:50.46`	`Patlabor221`	`where is that coded?`
`04:50.52`	`fiberchunks`	`which is, by the way, a pretty easy mod to do`
`04:50.53`	`Patlabor221`	`in the actualy php pages?`
`04:50.55`	`fiberchunks`	`hrm -- one minute`
`04:51.05`	`Patlabor221`	`well brb`
`04:51.06`	`fiberchunks`	`no -- just the template code iirc`
`04:51.11`	`fiberchunks`	`cool`
`04:51.13`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh ok`
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`05:07.42`	`fiberchunks`	`In general -- there are only a few things you might have to watch out for to get the template working right -- if you simply copy over the old templates folder with the one I tarred up and sent you -- you shouldn't have too many problems...ppl will most likely have to upload their avatars again (don't ask me why - it's odd behavior). And the smileys may not work properly - but you can create a smiley pack and simply blow away the old ones --`
`05:07.42`	`fiberchunks`	`c, etc.`
`05:07.52`	`fiberchunks`	`wb, btw`
`05:07.54`	`fiberchunks`	`:)`
`05:08.37`	`Patlabor221`	`thanks :)`
`05:08.58`	`fiberchunks`	`you get the mail?`
`05:09.09`	`fiberchunks`	`wanna make sure fore I head off to the happy hunting ground`
`05:09.42`	`Patlabor221`	`still firin up stuff`
`05:09.52`	`fiberchunks`	`coolio -- lemme know when you're ready`
`05:10.02`	`Patlabor221`	`dosn't look like I got it`
`05:10.07`	`Patlabor221`	`jeffm@gibbscam.com?`
`05:10.19`	`Patlabor221`	`nope three it is`
`05:10.19`	`fiberchunks`	`hrmph -- believe so -- should be from mmcgirr79@snet.net`
`05:10.24`	`Patlabor221`	`in the middle of the spam`
`05:10.26`	`fiberchunks`	`heh`
`05:10.36`	`fiberchunks`	`I'm spamified ;)`
`05:10.45`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`05:10.51`	`Patlabor221`	`not using normal mail client`
`05:10.54`	`fiberchunks`	`ah`
`05:10.55`	`Patlabor221`	`it's not filtering`
`05:10.59`	`Patlabor221`	`so it's all the crap in the inbox`
`05:11.25`	`fiberchunks`	`you know, it's funny -- knock on wood -- I've rarely received any spam -- it's odd really`
`05:11.27`	`Patlabor221`	`using outlook express ( ick)`
`05:11.35`	`fiberchunks`	`OY! bad zoot`
`05:11.52`	`Patlabor221`	`it's what is instlled on the other maachine`
`05:11.55`	`Patlabor221`	`still redoing it`
`05:12.05`	`Patlabor221`	`well looks like I've got it`
`05:12.20`	`fiberchunks`	`the site is noticably zippier on this machine (or perhaps the hammering stopped momentarily)`
`05:12.24`	`Patlabor221`	`I will get it merged in and proabably do another dbase export to be sure`
`05:12.51`	`Patlabor221`	`wana plan on changing over the dns tomorow evening?`
`05:13.06`	`fiberchunks`	`iirc, the only mods that require .php fiddling are: the board page gen time mod -- and the upper administration link mod`
`05:13.15`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`05:13.21`	`fiberchunks`	`sure -- send me an email to remind me`
`05:13.25`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`05:13.34`	`fiberchunks`	`ah, anything else you can think of?`
`05:13.42`	`Patlabor221`	`I was gonna grab a virgin 2.03 and do a diff and see what you changed`
`05:14.03`	`fiberchunks`	`REAL GOOD IDEA -- didn't even think of that -- great idea :)`
`05:14.05`	`Patlabor221`	`nope, now that I have the files, I can export as many times as I need from the liveside`
`05:15.03`	`fiberchunks`	`I would like to ask one thing (and you determine if it's feasible or not) -- that you (with assistance, of course), upgrade to 2.0.4 as soon as you get a chance -- I hear there's a tremendous speed increase`
`05:15.04`	`Patlabor221`	`or for now I may just put this up as is, and then I can do the 2.04 update at my leasure`
`05:15.12`	`fiberchunks`	`ah -- there it is :)`
`05:15.20`	`Patlabor221`	`it's running 04 now`
`05:15.32`	`Patlabor221`	`so if the diff looks easy then it will be done at the same time`
`05:15.33`	`fiberchunks`	`not according to the link at the bottom of the page it isn't`
`05:15.45`	`Patlabor221`	`wtf`
`05:16.09`	`Patlabor221`	`well crud`
`05:16.13`	`Patlabor221`	`well I'll get that fixed`
`05:16.14`	`fiberchunks`	`that may be a result of using the old db without actually using the upgrade.php, instead of the install.php`
`05:16.21`	`fiberchunks`	`but I'm not sure`
`05:16.38`	`Patlabor221`	`must be`
`05:16.44`	`Patlabor221`	`it has to be 2.0.4`
`05:16.48`	`Patlabor221`	`it has an install dir`
`05:16.49`	`fiberchunks`	`oh yeah -- iirc I may have twiddled the db tables a bit -- so be wary and back up often ;)`
`05:16.52`	`Patlabor221`	`not just an install.php`
`05:16.54`	`fiberchunks`	`ah`
`05:17.01`	`Patlabor221`	`joy`
`05:17.01`	`fiberchunks`	`then it must be -- that's odd`
`05:17.19`	`Patlabor221`	`I will look for it in the db`
`05:17.23`	`fiberchunks`	`it's not that bad -- but I'm horrendous at taking notes -- so I can't really remember what I did when`
`05:17.49`	`Patlabor221`	`well I'm sure it'll all work out`
`05:18.05`	`fiberchunks`	`but anywho -- fiddle with it, and let me know if we're ready to switch DNS tomorrow`
`05:18.17`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`05:18.26`	`fiberchunks`	`btw -- what's my ssh password on bzbb.bakadigital.com (/msg me)`
`05:18.38`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh I didn't make you an account`
`05:18.41`	`Patlabor221`	`shoot`
`05:18.43`	`fiberchunks`	`ah - that's why`
`05:18.45`	`fiberchunks`	`:)`
`05:18.47`	`Patlabor221`	`how do I do that`
`05:18.59`	`Patlabor221`	`addusr or something?`
`05:19.08`	`fiberchunks`	`I think it's adduser`
`05:19.29`	`fiberchunks`	`just : adduser fiberchunks -- and then PM me in the forum with the password -- if you would please :)`
`05:19.49`	`Patlabor221`	`sure as soon as I figure out all the freakin options :)`
`05:20.10`	`Patlabor221`	`damn that's a lot of them`
`05:20.28`	`Patlabor221`	`well I'll figure it out and let you know`
`05:20.35`	`fiberchunks`	`heh -- oh yeah -- one more thing ... I can assure you that the board msg XL mod will most likely NOT work properly as it is right now -- I would install it from scratch if you like it`
`05:20.44`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`05:20.48`	`Patlabor221`	`I do like it`
`05:20.54`	`Patlabor221`	`I was looking at the mods to day`
`05:21.05`	`Patlabor221`	`looks like they updated a lot of them for 0.4`
`05:21.06`	`fiberchunks`	`I _love_ the page gen time mod`
`05:21.28`	`fiberchunks`	`I would've loved to have put in a portal for the board too -- but lack of time`
`05:21.37`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh I did make you a username`
`05:21.43`	`fiberchunks`	`whatzit?`
`05:21.59`	`Patlabor221`	`Fiberchunks`
`05:22.07`	`fiberchunks`	`capital F?`
`05:22.10`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`05:22.31`	`fiberchunks`	`pword?`
`05:23.23`	`Patlabor221`	`just PMed it to you`
`05:23.28`	`fiberchunks`	`cool`
`05:23.40`	`Patlabor221`	`and even verified it works :)`
`05:23.45`	`fiberchunks`	`oooo - how unique ;)`
`05:24.02`	`Patlabor221`	`hey it works`
`05:24.07`	`Patlabor221`	`and makes you change it :)`
`05:24.41`	`fiberchunks`	`true ;) -- all set now -- I'm off to bed -- have fun fiddling - I'll speak at ya tomorrow`
`05:25.05`	`Patlabor221`	`have a good night, thanks`
`05:25.14`	`fiberchunks`	`you too -- take it easy - Peace`
`05:48.56`	`Patlabor221`	`well damn, looks like we are good`
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`05:58.19`	`captain_proton`	`hm`
`05:58.30`	`Patlabor221`	`how goes it cap?`
`05:58.39`	`captain_proton`	`decent`
`05:58.47`	`Patlabor221`	`very good`
`05:59.05`	`Patlabor221`	`I now see the coolnes in 'nix remote admin`
`06:21.07`	`Patlabor221`	`well that's enough template hackin for one night`
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`09:18.58`	`doughecka`	`greetings`
`09:20.44`	`larsl`	`Hello.`
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`11:03.27`	`larsl`	`~bzflist`
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`12:29.42`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`fiberchunks fiberchunks_?`
`12:54.12`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`somebody there�`
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`12:54.24`	`doughecka`	`greetings`
`13:01.20`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hey`
`13:01.23`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`u ther doughecka`
`13:01.25`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`+`
`13:01.27`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`e`
`13:01.31`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~ducati6`
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`13:07.06`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`mmu_man: you there?`
`13:10.50`	`mmu_man`	`yup`
`13:15.00`	`mmu_man`	`plop`
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`13:40.01`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`mmu_man: i have a uncorect patch on my graphic card now i always shows black when i boot`
`13:40.53`	`mmu_man`	`what OS ?`
`13:42.45`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Xp pro`
`13:43.03`	`mmu_man`	`don't know about XP...`
`13:43.07`	`mmu_man`	`XP sux anyway :p`
`13:43.09`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:o(`
`14:14.24`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~[TeA\|TrEE]`
`14:14.28`		`well, [tea\|tree] is the cow who cried moo`
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`15:21.02`	`bomber`	`hi tea`
`15:22.02`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`huhu`
`15:26.05`	`bomber`	`haha`
`15:29.48`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hihi`
`15:50.24`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`http://www.bug-guy.com/moles.2.gif`
`15:50.28`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`muhahaha`
`16:01.58`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~ducati6`
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`16:42.55`	`bomber`	`~ducati6`
`16:45.35`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`haha`
`16:46.51`	`bomber`	`hoho`
`16:46.58`	`Patlabor221`	`hehe`
`16:57.27`	`Patlabor221`	`tea bzbb is back up`
`17:01.22`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: seen it already and posted`
`17:01.23`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:D`
`17:01.34`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: its my start up site`
`17:01.44`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: but still thank you`
`17:02.35`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhh`
`17:02.43`	`Patlabor221`	`well it's gonna move today :)`
`17:02.52`	`Patlabor221`	`if the godess is willing`
`17:18.26`	`Patlabor221`	`I think I'm gonna add another style too`
`17:19.49`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:)`
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`17:44.34`	`larsl`	`Why is the local player treated differently when the scoreboard is rendered (HUDRenderer.cxx, ~line 890).`
`17:44.37`	`larsl`	`?`
`17:44.59`	`larsl`	`The exact same function is called as for the remote players.`
`17:47.17`	`Patlabor221`	`dono`
`17:47.43`	`larsl`	`I'm going to change it - I'm hacking there anyway.`
`17:50.38`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`somewone there`
`17:50.55`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`i have a wrong patch on my graphic card now my screen is black when i boot .. what shall i do`
`17:51.04`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`win xp pro is the OS`
`17:51.19`	`larsl`	`Wrong patch on the card?`
`17:51.23`	`Patlabor221`	`what card do you have?`
`17:51.51`	`Patlabor221`	`and you can allwayh hit F8 right when it boots and go to vga mode`
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`17:54.56`	`Patlabor221`	`I think he means driver instead of pathc`
`17:55.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`OK brb...`
`17:56.44`	`Cell`	`hashtable should be at most 90% full, so you have to know the size of items to put into it`
`17:59.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Back`
`18:00.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ibot, [Tea\|tree]?`
`18:00.18`		`well, [tea\|tree] is the cow who cried moo`
`18:00.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`AWW!! I played BZFlag too long!!`
`18:00.54`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I'm hearing teleporter sounds!!`
`18:01.04`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221?`
`18:01.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Jeff Meyers`
`18:01.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I gotta go`
`18:01.17`	`Patlabor221`	`what video card do you have tea?`
`18:01.23`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`aaaaaaah driver i mean sorry`
`18:01.27`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`GF 4 MX 420`
`18:01.38`	`Patlabor221`	`ok and what did you install?`
`18:02.39`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`ehm`
`18:02.45`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`some driver from CD`
`18:02.59`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`GF 4 Serie from something`
`18:03.12`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh my`
`18:03.20`	`Patlabor221`	`NEVER install drivers that come with hardware`
`18:03.23`	`Patlabor221`	`reboot`
`18:03.35`	`Patlabor221`	`right after it hits the black bios screen with all the text`
`18:03.41`	`Patlabor221`	`before it says "windowsXP"`
`18:03.47`	`Patlabor221`	`hit F8`
`18:03.52`	`Patlabor221`	`that will give you boot options`
`18:03.59`	`Patlabor221`	`boot to VGA or "safe" mode`
`18:04.04`	`Patlabor221`	`then go to www.nvidia.com`
`18:04.10`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`aah wait`
`18:04.11`	`Patlabor221`	`and get the 41.90 drivers`
`18:04.15`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`i dont have internet on there`
`18:04.15`	`Patlabor221`	`they kick ass`
`18:04.21`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`so`
`18:04.40`	`Patlabor221`	`well does it have a zip drive? or do you have a crdom burner?`
`18:04.47`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`when i boot ... it shows up the DELL logo when i hit there delte , BIOS comes up ... then come the double boot`
`18:04.50`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`then windows xp`
`18:05.02`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`it has a cdrom burner`
`18:05.20`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`should i go in safe mode?`
`18:05.23`	`Patlabor221`	`rigt after the dell logo, and before the windows XP`
`18:05.42`	`Patlabor221`	`well you need a burner on a machine that is on the internet`
`18:05.53`	`Patlabor221`	`safe mode will show you defalut video and at least let you get in.`
`18:06.14`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`ok i try`
`18:10.05`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`F8 dowsnt work`
`18:10.50`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221?`
`18:10.58`	`Patlabor221`	`where are you hiting it?`
`18:11.09`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`actually i hit it everywere`
`18:11.27`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`but i can try again`
`18:19.32`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: there?`
`18:19.50`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: its just after the double boot when u start win xp`
`18:20.01`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: in which mode shall i go?`
`18:20.09`	`Patlabor221`	`safe`
`18:20.17`	`Patlabor221`	`what are your options?`
`18:20.21`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`alot`
`18:20.28`	`Patlabor221`	`ether safe`
`18:20.30`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`VGA .... safe without networkstuff ... bla bla`
`18:20.31`	`Patlabor221`	`or VGA mode`
`18:20.36`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh go to VGA then`
`18:20.39`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`ok`
`18:27.48`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`yeeeeee`
`18:27.57`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: thanks you maked my day better`
`18:28.08`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: installed detonater on it .. works now`
`18:28.39`	`Patlabor221`	`very good`
`18:29.09`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: thanks a lot`
`18:29.10`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:D`
`18:29.14`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`lerning more and more`
`18:29.24`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`i have 2 more problems to get out`
`18:29.37`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`18:30.03`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`1. in double boot it always automaticly on Linux`
`18:30.08`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`i want it on windows`
`18:32.12`	`larsl`	`[TeA\|TrEE]: What bootloader are you using?`
`18:33.19`	`larsl`	`[TeA\|TrEE]: lilo or grub?`
`18:35.30`	`Patlabor221`	`did you install redhat tea?`
`18:37.20`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`yes`
`18:37.25`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`with mistakes thow`
`18:37.34`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`like i cant go in linux with graphic`
`18:39.58`	`Patlabor221`	`you probalby need the nvidia dri`
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`18:43.01`	`anaconda`	`hi`
`18:43.47`	`*** part/#bzflag Cell (~alton@pD9E50CD6.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`18:51.51`	`fiberchunks_`	`lo -- how goes the battle Patlabor221`
`18:52.00`	`fiberchunks_`	`only here for a bit -- just checking in`
`18:52.04`	`Patlabor221`	`just geting ready to send you a PM`
`18:52.08`	`fiberchunks_`	`ah`
`18:52.09`	`Patlabor221`	`bzbb.bakadigital.com`
`18:52.16`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`fiberchunks_ yeee huhu`
`18:52.24`	`Patlabor221`	`got everything except the board message XL`
`18:52.25`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`thats other dorum`
`18:52.35`	`Patlabor221`	`and the quilk links`
`18:52.42`	`Patlabor221`	`but I think those can be done later`
`18:52.45`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`ore was`
`18:53.06`	`Patlabor221`	`seems that 2.0.4 does not like the MB XL`
`18:53.06`	`Patlabor221`	`tea, or will be :)`
`18:53.08`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`larsl: Grub`
`18:53.11`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:S`
`18:53.13`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:D`
`18:53.22`	`fiberchunks_`	`looks fine`
`18:53.30`	`Patlabor221`	`I think I got the guest stuff working to`
`18:53.34`	`Patlabor221`	`and the page gen`
`18:53.37`	`fiberchunks_`	`that don't surprise me a bit (bout 2.0.4)`
`18:53.51`	`Patlabor221`	`and I made all the template changes to another template too`
`18:53.56`	`Patlabor221`	`so we can have 2 of them`
`18:54.01`	`fiberchunks_`	`well - I'm still seeing the top links when I'm not logged in -- so that's not working altogether correctly yet`
`18:54.01`	`Patlabor221`	`subsilver`
`18:54.06`	`fiberchunks_`	`cool`
`18:54.26`	`Patlabor221`	`what top links?`
`18:54.51`	`fiberchunks_`	`the ones that say -- memberlist, usergroups, etc -- should not show up _unless_ you are logged in`
`18:54.55`	`Patlabor221`	`oh`
`18:54.57`	`Patlabor221`	`hmmmm`
`18:54.59`	`Patlabor221`	`let me check that`
`18:55.01`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`larsl: you there`
`18:55.02`	`fiberchunks_`	`the only one that should show up is 'register'`
`18:55.11`	`Patlabor221`	`I will look at that`
`18:55.25`	`Patlabor221`	`but I'm gonna do another dbase update to make sure I know how to do it.`
`18:55.32`	`fiberchunks_`	`quick links are simply hardcoded in 'overall_header.tpl'`
`18:55.39`	`fiberchunks_`	`I`
`18:55.41`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`18:55.51`	`fiberchunks_`	`'m pretty sure I commented the HTML pretty well`
`18:56.04`	`Patlabor221`	`index_body.tpl is all funly`
`18:56.08`	`Patlabor221`	`funky`
`18:56.10`	`larsl`	`[TeA\|TrEE]: I am now.`
`18:56.13`	`Patlabor221`	`way difrent then the norm`
`18:56.17`	`Patlabor221`	`been doing difs`
`18:56.19`	`fiberchunks_`	`most of my template fiddling was done in: overall_header.tpl, overall_footer.tpl and index_body.tpl`
`18:56.30`	`fiberchunks_`	`yah -- that's cause I moved a lot around`
`18:56.34`	`larsl`	`[TeA\|TrEE]: You can configure GRUB from Linux.`
`18:57.16`	`Patlabor221`	`well I didn't make that many changes to it, just the ones to make the click on the folder work`
`18:57.20`	`fiberchunks_`	`for example -- the login thing was in the overall footer, then I moved it to just above the index_body -- and I changed the hoot out of the overall_header`
`18:57.27`	`fiberchunks_`	`format-wise, that is`
`18:57.30`	`Patlabor221`	`I figured we could work out the rest later`
`18:57.37`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm difing header now`
`18:57.56`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`larsl: well i cant boot linux graphical so forget it :o(((((((`
`18:58.06`	`fiberchunks_`	`sure nuff -- just make sure the difference between logged in and logged out works right -- otherwise guests can get info they shouldn't be able to get`
`18:58.11`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~google test`
`18:58.22`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah see where I missed that`
`18:58.32`	`Patlabor221`	`it looks kinda good in subsilver`
`18:59.08`	`fiberchunks_`	`I like subsilver -- was going to try the 'comic book' theme at one point in time -- and also 'appalachia' - which is kinda nice looking as well`
`18:59.13`	`larsl`	`[TeA\|TrEE]: You don't need graphics.`
`18:59.23`	`Patlabor221`	`I kinda like the spiderman one`
`18:59.24`	`Patlabor221`	`:)`
`18:59.34`	`fiberchunks_`	`Cobalt is a bit too graphic intensive for my tastes (which I should've thought of before I decided to use it ;) )`
`18:59.50`	`Patlabor221`	`it's also very very blue`
`18:59.57`	`Patlabor221`	`and makes it hard to hide at work :)`
`18:59.59`	`fiberchunks_`	`yes, that too :)`
`19:00.02`	`fiberchunks_`	`lol`
`19:00.13`	`Patlabor221`	`hence why I'm hooking up subsliver`
`19:00.46`	`fiberchunks_`	`which is cool, since subsilver has a _boatload_ of cool little mods for it (and of course, everyone mods for it -- so they apply real smooth)`
`19:01.05`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`larsl: hmm can we talk tomorrow have no time sorry`
`19:01.07`	`fiberchunks_`	`such as: the hyperforum mod, and the 'rollups' mod`
`19:01.40`	`Patlabor221`	`cool`
`19:02.13`	`fiberchunks_`	`one cool mod we should look into is the 'subcategory' mod -- categories of forums within a forum -- pretty neat`
`19:02.23`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah that would be nice`
`19:02.25`	`fiberchunks_`	`I'd also like to one day slap a portal on the thing`
`19:02.40`	`fiberchunks_`	`there's a couple of em out there that are quite simple to implement`
`19:02.55`	`fiberchunks_`	`nutport, and EZportal -- iirc`
`19:03.23`	`Patlabor221`	`there we go, one quicklinks and one guest access thingy`
`19:03.24`	`Patlabor221`	`all done`
`19:03.55`	`Patlabor221`	`now to try the same thing with subsilver`
`19:04.02`	`fiberchunks_`	`beauty`
`19:04.32`	`Patlabor221`	`oh what is the "myphpadmin"`
`19:04.36`	`Patlabor221`	`in the admin section`
`19:04.40`	`Patlabor221`	`didn't know what that was.`
`19:05.07`	`fiberchunks_`	`that's a link for phpMyAdmin -- which makes adminning the db easy with a web interface -- you can safely remove that cruft until / unless you install phpMyAdmin`
`19:05.20`	`Patlabor221`	`I did`
`19:05.43`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm also lookin at a mod that lets people give themseves a title in adition to rank`
`19:05.47`	`fiberchunks_`	`also -- all that extraneous code that I had in there (commented out) -- you can delete all that -- mostly remnants from testing the board that I never removed`
`19:05.51`	`fiberchunks_`	`cool`
`19:06.02`	`Patlabor221`	`and can be admined based on number of posts and stuff`
`19:06.08`	`Patlabor221`	`thought that may work for team names`
`19:06.14`	`fiberchunks_`	`'twould be neat to have an RPG shop in there modded for bzflag (useless, but fun :) )`
`19:06.38`	`Patlabor221`	`RPG shop?`
`19:07.02`	`fiberchunks_`	`yeah, you can buy -- with so many posts / points, etc -- more ammo, better armor, etc`
`19:07.06`	`fiberchunks_`	`weapons and such :)`
`19:07.11`	`Patlabor221`	`LOL`
`19:07.15`	`Patlabor221`	`ok that would be cool`
`19:07.22`	`Patlabor221`	`let people keep a little board character`
`19:07.33`	`Patlabor221`	`we would have to have all the uber stuff of course`
`19:08.28`	`fiberchunks_`	`absolutely`
`19:09.25`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh, well damn, you can't ever see subsilver if your not loged in`
`19:09.27`	`fiberchunks_`	`the only other thing I would say that needs to be done to your board now is simply moving the login block of code from down at the bottom to overall_header (or wherever it was I put it)`
`19:09.31`	`Patlabor221`	`so I don't think I need to worry bout that`
`19:09.36`	`fiberchunks_`	`hrm, why?`
`19:09.50`	`fiberchunks_`	`just change the default board style in the admin control panel`
`19:10.06`	`Patlabor221`	`well I don't want to just yet :)`
`19:10.15`	`fiberchunks_`	`and check the 'let user specify style' box in the 'general config' part`
`19:10.16`	`fiberchunks_`	`ah`
`19:10.17`	`Patlabor221`	`the login is at the bottom just like yours`
`19:10.22`	`Patlabor221`	`yah I did that`
`19:10.27`	`Patlabor221`	`but the default is colbat`
`19:10.30`	`fiberchunks_`	`no -- mine's at the top -- check it again`
`19:10.35`	`Patlabor221`	`og`
`19:10.37`	`Patlabor221`	`oh`
`19:10.41`	`Patlabor221`	`then I shall move it`
`19:11.06`	`Patlabor221`	`umm I can't log out on yours`
`19:11.17`	`fiberchunks_`	`also note (but not necessary) the way I divided and shuffled around the small white crap up above the first category (the time / date, etc, stuff)`
`19:11.24`	`fiberchunks_`	`hrm -- interesting`
`19:12.07`	`fiberchunks_`	`ah - did you check the 'remember me at each visit' thing when you logged in?`
`19:12.23`	`fiberchunks_`	`frag the cookie -- that should solve the problem`
`19:12.24`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`19:12.30`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`19:12.58`	`fiberchunks_`	`also -- check the smtp setttings that I have in there and change them to suit your server(s) (if you haven't already)`
`19:13.03`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm ok with geting the move done with colbalt being the default and working on sub silver later`
`19:13.05`	`Patlabor221`	`I did`
`19:13.07`	`fiberchunks_`	`cool`
`19:13.30`	`fiberchunks_`	`man, you're doing a bang up job -- I feel real good about passing this over to you :)`
`19:13.31`	`Patlabor221`	`I'll let people chose subsliver, but "at there own risk"`
`19:13.36`	`Patlabor221`	`thanks :)`
`19:15.20`	`fiberchunks_`	`by the way -- per your announcement post -- there IS a way to disable the board -- look in the admin panel, under general configuration`
`19:15.47`	`fiberchunks_`	`ENSURE, however, that you do NOT log off while it's disabled -- else it will take serious work to get the thing working right again`
`19:16.24`	`Patlabor221`	`I didn't want to disable it, just lock it so no new posts`
`19:16.28`	`Patlabor221`	`I saw that`
`19:16.34`	`Patlabor221`	`looks scary`
`19:16.47`	`Patlabor221`	`"please for the love of god don't time out"`
`19:17.09`	`fiberchunks_`	`the only way to lock it is to disable it`
`19:17.27`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`19:17.48`	`Patlabor221`	`well somome may lose a post or 2, should't be too bad`
`19:17.59`	`fiberchunks_`	`yah -- that crap is expected anyway`
`19:18.07`	`Patlabor221`	`cus I can't stay loged in, cus the dns will change too`
`19:18.11`	`fiberchunks_`	`or should be, by any sane individual`
`19:18.15`	`fiberchunks_`	`ah, right`
`19:19.05`	`fiberchunks_`	`well, I need to take a nap - I'm wore out -- be on later tonight`
`19:19.44`	`Patlabor221`	`ok`
`19:19.45`	`Patlabor221`	`have fun`
`19:28.59`	`*** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@rikers.org)`
`19:29.00`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ`
`19:34.27`	`larsl`	`TimRiker: I commited a small change/bugfix a while ago - observers are now listed after all other players in the scoreboard, and without kills and score.`
`19:50.14`	`TimRiker`	`~convert 10640 ft^2 to acres`
`19:50.56`	`TimRiker`	`~convert 10676 ft^2 to acres`
`19:53.16`	`Patlabor221`	`can it do furlongs/fortnight?`
`19:55.20`	`*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-61.d-ip.magma.ca)`
`19:55.37`	`bzgirl`	`hello`
`19:55.41`	`Patlabor221`	`hello`
`19:56.33`	`bzgirl`	`is there any bzcop news you know of pat?`
`19:56.48`	`Patlabor221`	`I know noodle and justin are working on it`
`19:56.58`	`bzgirl`	`k`
`19:57.02`	`Patlabor221`	`but last I heard justin was in europe`
`19:57.39`	`*** join/#bzflag mmu (~revol@ALyon-202-1-3-238.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`19:57.52`	`Patlabor221`	`and now I'm tring to figure out mysql :)`
`19:58.13`	`bzgirl`	`your really getting into this linux stuff huh :)`
`19:59.08`	`Patlabor221`	`well they have mysql on windows to :)`
`19:59.09`	`Patlabor221`	`but yes`
`19:59.23`	`Patlabor221`	`it has definalte advantages in remote admin`
`19:59.48`	`Patlabor221`	`now if I could just remember the command to show me data in the tables`
`19:59.54`	`Patlabor221`	`I know it starts with an S`
`20:03.13`	`Patlabor221`	`and there we go, one complete copy of bzbb, with a new optional style instad of the blue one, http://bzbb.bakadigital.com`
`20:04.30`	`*** join/#bzflag Cell (~alton@pD9E50CD6.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`20:04.56`	`Cell`	`you know that you can draw a face using only noses?`
`20:05.13`	`Cell`	`:)`
`20:07.00`	`Cell`	`serious q, if i have 3 iis connected to a router that uses NAT and i give use the router ip to connect to port 80 from a remote pc, what will happen?`
`20:07.57`	`Patlabor221`	`depends on who the router is set up`
`20:08.05`	`Patlabor221`	`is one of the machine's the DMZ?`
`20:08.19`	`Cell`	`DMZ?`
`20:08.47`	`Patlabor221`	`do have the router set to do DMZ or virutal hosting`
`20:09.05`	`Patlabor221`	`dmz = de militerized zone`
`20:09.28`	`Patlabor221`	`if the router is in it's default state, it will block the incoming packet`
`20:09.29`	`Cell`	`donno`
`20:09.53`	`Patlabor221`	`if the router is set to have one IP be DMZ it will send all incoming unknown packets to the DMZ IP`
`20:10.05`	`Cell`	`ah`
`20:10.15`	`Patlabor221`	`if you have virutal hosting, set up to forward port 80 to a specific IP, then it will do so.`
`20:10.28`	`Cell`	`cool look for that option in the router's config`
`20:13.25`	`Cell`	`strange all my licences have expired, something messed up the date time settings :-= grrrrrrr`
`20:13.53`	`TimRiker`	`~convert fortnight to minutes`
`20:14.02`	`Patlabor221`	`lol`
`20:14.06`	`TimRiker`	`convert furlongs to feet`
`20:14.11`	`TimRiker`	`~convert furlongs to feet`
`20:14.27`	`TimRiker`	`so I guess that's a yes. ;-)`
`20:14.28`	`Cell`	`new patch?`
`20:15.22`	`Cell`	`~convert degs to rads`
`20:16.36`	`TimRiker`	`~convert degrees to radians`
`20:17.06`	`TimRiker`	`convert 5400 rpm to degrees`
`20:17.10`	`TimRiker`	`~convert 5400 rpm to degrees`
`20:17.16`	`TimRiker`	`heh`
`20:19.11`	`TimRiker`	`~convert 5400 rpm to revolutions per second`
`20:20.14`	`Chestal`	`~convert bzflag.rpm to bzflag.deb`
`20:20.23`	`TimRiker`	`~convert 5400 rpm to degrees per second`
`20:20.54`	`Chestal`	`~convert 7200 rpm to Hertz`
`20:21.00`	`Chestal`	`hmm`
`20:22.53`	`*** join/#bzflag [TeA\|TrEE] (~trillian@pD9E95230.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`20:25.56`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hmm dos somewone watch tv here :D`
`20:31.42`	`Cell`	`its a relation`
`20:32.17`	`Cell`	`~convert NFA to DFA`
`20:32.58`	`captain_proton`	`everything should be measured in hertz`
`20:33.02`	`captain_proton`	`like in bzflag, frame hertz`
`20:35.31`	`Cell`	`[TeA\|TrEE]: i watch TV`
`20:40.27`	`captain_proton`	`~convert light years to millimeters per fortnight`
`20:40.27`	`Patlabor221`	`cap you get red dwarf on dvd?`
`20:40.42`	`Patlabor221`	`light year is a distance`
`20:40.45`	`Patlabor221`	`not a speed`
`20:40.46`	`captain_proton`	`Patlabor221: no, i'm poor at the moment`
`20:40.49`	`captain_proton`	`Patlabor221: true enough!`
`20:41.01`	`Patlabor221`	`they only have season 1 and 2 out`
`20:41.07`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm gonna try riping them soon`
`20:41.07`	`captain_proton`	`i know`
`20:41.20`	`Patlabor221`	`coo`
`20:41.29`	`Patlabor221`	`no word on when the next ones will be out :(`
`20:42.02`	`Patlabor221`	`3rd season is when kryton returns right?`
`20:42.56`	`larsl`	`Patlabor221: I think so.`
`20:43.07`	`captain_proton`	`believe so`
`20:43.13`	`Patlabor221`	`smmmmmeeeeeegggg--hhheeeaaaad`
`20:43.22`	`Patlabor221`	`that was my favorate part`
`20:43.25`	`larsl`	`What was he doing during most of season 2? Just driving around?`
`20:43.38`	`Patlabor221`	`I dono`
`20:43.41`	`Patlabor221`	`I guess`
`20:43.53`	`Patlabor221`	`proalby took that long to become a new actor`
`20:45.55`	`Cell`	`lol`
`20:49.22`	`larsl`	`~convert lightyears per year to meters per second`
`20:49.46`	`captain_proton`	`~convert lightyears per year to millimeters per fortnight`
`20:50.14`	`Patlabor221`	`wouldn't lightyears per year be 1?`
`20:50.45`	`captain_proton`	`Patlabor221: no`
`20:51.04`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah your right`
`20:51.11`	`larsl`	`The speed of light is roughly 3*10^8 m/s.`
`20:51.19`	`Patlabor221`	`it would be the speed of light :)`
`20:52.00`	`Patlabor221`	`~convert lightyears per year to furlongs per fortnight`
`20:53.56`	`*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@host-178-78-220-24.midco.net)`
`20:54.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hi`
`20:54.29`	`Patlabor221`	`lo`
`20:54.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No good maps up`
`20:55.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hey`
`20:55.27`	`Patlabor221`	`so make some`
`20:55.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Here's a new BZSaying : "Don't Tread On Me"`
`20:55.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have`
`20:55.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I don't know how to host them`
`20:56.02`	`Patlabor221`	`-public`
`20:56.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`See my new map?`
`20:56.09`	`Patlabor221`	`and they would suck on a dialup`
`20:56.12`	`Patlabor221`	`nope`
`20:56.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I don't have Dial-up`
`20:56.27`	`Patlabor221`	`what are you on?`
`20:56.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`http://stats.bzflag.org/worlds.php`
`20:56.40`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I'm on Cable`
`20:56.44`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh`
`20:56.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Just got the other day`
`20:56.56`	`Patlabor221`	`then you could run a server just fine`
`20:56.58`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I was the one bragging it`
`20:57.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How?`
`20:57.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I read the references and Guides from SS but still don't understand`
`20:57.26`	`larsl`	`bzfs -world <MAP> -public <MESSAGE>`
`20:57.29`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`And what do I do with the .bat file?`
`20:57.34`	`captain_proton`	`cable doesn't run servers "just fine", but its pretty tolerable with up to 5 players`
`20:57.37`	`Patlabor221`	`bat file?`
`20:57.48`	`Patlabor221`	`cap depends on the cable`
`20:57.57`	`Patlabor221`	`just run the server with those options`
`20:57.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`yea`
`20:58.04`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`...`
`20:58.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`In a batch file?`
`20:58.23`	`Patlabor221`	`no from the command line`
`20:58.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`command line?`
`20:58.38`	`Patlabor221`	`you could do a batch file or a shortcut too`
`20:58.46`	`Patlabor221`	`yes the command line`
`20:58.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What shortcut?`
`20:58.56`	`Patlabor221`	`you could make a shortuct to the server`
`20:59.01`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What's that?`
`20:59.06`	`Patlabor221`	`and set the options in the target field`
`20:59.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I have no idea what you're talking about`
`20:59.15`	`Patlabor221`	`you don't know what a shortcut is?`
`20:59.27`	`Patlabor221`	`all those "icons" in your start menu`
`20:59.33`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Remember: I'm a half-retarted 13 year old`
`20:59.33`	`Patlabor221`	`they are shortucts`
`20:59.38`	`Patlabor221`	`cap is a smart man`
`20:59.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`20:59.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ohhh`
`20:59.58`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I didn't see where you were coming from`
`21:00.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What about them?`
`21:00.15`	`Patlabor221`	`you can make a shortcut to the server`
`21:00.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`nAhhh`
`21:00.27`	`Patlabor221`	`and add the options to make it public to the target field of the shortuct`
`21:00.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ahhh*`
`21:00.37`	`Patlabor221`	`there are example shortcuts installed with bz`
`21:00.54`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I know`
`21:01.09`	`Patlabor221`	`it's a basic feature of all OSs past windows 95`
`21:01.14`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:01.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So what is the FIRST thing I do?`
`21:01.25`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`First`
`21:01.25`	`Cell`	`log*2 = ?`
`21:01.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`?`
`21:01.39`	`larsl`	`log*2?`
`21:01.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`log*2?`
`21:01.53`	`Patlabor221`	`make a shortcut`
`21:01.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`From what?`
`21:02.04`	`Patlabor221`	`bzfs.exe`
`21:02.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`To where?`
`21:02.11`	`Patlabor221`	`bzfs.exe`
`21:02.12`	`Cell`	`yeah logloglog as long until it gets sma,ller then 1`
`21:02.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`to desktop?`
`21:02.23`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`That do?`
`21:02.25`	`Patlabor221`	`where ever you want`
`21:02.27`	`Cell`	`how often?`
`21:02.39`	`Patlabor221`	`then add -public and -world to it`
`21:02.40`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`let me open`
`21:02.42`	`Patlabor221`	`then run it`
`21:02.47`	`larsl`	`Cell: What do you mean?`
`21:03.39`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: You should probably tell it to run in a terminal window too.`
`21:03.51`	`Patlabor221`	`he dosn't have leeenox`
`21:03.58`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Win32`
`21:04.01`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:04.05`	`Patlabor221`	`worse then win32`
`21:04.06`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Short-cut made`
`21:04.11`	`Patlabor221`	`so edit it`
`21:04.11`	`Cell`	`log*2 is the number that tells us how often you have to applay log(log(log...log(2)...)) until it gets smaller than 1`
`21:04.15`	`larsl`	`Have they removed command line windows in Windows?`
`21:04.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Edit what?`
`21:04.20`	`Patlabor221`	`the shortcut`
`21:04.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Open it?`
`21:04.31`	`larsl`	`Cell: Oh`
`21:04.37`	`larsl`	`Cell: Which base?`
`21:04.39`	`captain_proton`	`larsl: sorta`
`21:04.41`	`Patlabor221`	`right click on it and go to properties`
`21:04.47`	`Cell`	`base 2`
`21:04.49`	`Patlabor221`	`like all standard windows options`
`21:04.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`yes`
`21:04.56`	`Cell`	`log 2 = 1`
`21:05.01`	`Cell`	`log*2 = 1`
`21:05.13`	`Patlabor221`	`then add your -public and -world after the target exe part`
`21:05.14`	`larsl`	`OK.`
`21:05.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ok`
`21:05.28`	`Cell`	`log *2^2^2^2 = 4`
`21:05.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`and in -world "world.map"?`
`21:06.06`	`Patlabor221`	`if that is what your map is called`
`21:06.06`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ok`
`21:06.15`	`Cell`	`needed in amartazied cost analizes of fibonacci heaps`
`21:06.23`	`larsl`	`Yee haa. =)`
`21:06.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`in quotes?`
`21:06.42`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: Doesn't matter, as long as the name doesn't contain any whitespace.`
`21:06.44`	`Patlabor221`	`if there are no spaces I don't use them`
`21:07.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:07.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`C:/WINDOWS/Desktop/worlds/newcastle.map??`
`21:07.27`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`That's my target`
`21:07.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Not ALL of it`
`21:07.32`	`Patlabor221`	`is that where map is?`
`21:07.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`21:07.58`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ok...brb`
`21:08.31`	`Patlabor221`	`the target should be c:\myfolderwhereIPutstuff\bzfs.exe" -world C:\wheremymapis\map.map`
`21:08.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`C:/WINDOWS/Desktop`
`21:09.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Then the map`
`21:09.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Got it`
`21:09.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Then just double-click bzfs?`
`21:09.20`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't care where it is, just put it in the -world part`
`21:09.25`	`Patlabor221`	`no the shortcut`
`21:09.30`	`Patlabor221`	`that's why you made it`
`21:09.32`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`21:09.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`That one`
`21:09.42`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`21:09.54`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`OK...it opened then closed right away, that good?`
`21:09.58`	`Patlabor221`	`nope`
`21:10.07`	`Patlabor221`	`what is the entire target line`
`21:10.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What do I do?`
`21:10.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Let me fetch`
`21:10.18`	`Patlabor221`	`fix what is screwed up`
`21:10.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`"C:\Program Files\BZFlag1.7g0\bzfs.exe" -public -world C:/WINDOWS/Desktop/worlds/newcastle.map`
`21:10.50`	`larsl`	`Do frontslashes work as directory delimiters?`
`21:10.56`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`21:10.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No??`
`21:11.00`	`Patlabor221`	`no on winders`
`21:11.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`brb!`
`21:11.06`	`Patlabor221`	`c:\`
`21:11.22`	`larsl`	`You should get bash. =)`
`21:11.33`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:11.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Changed`
`21:11.39`	`Patlabor221`	`he sould learn how to use the comand line :)`
`21:11.42`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What else wrong?`
`21:11.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`21:11.53`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: You need to specify a message.`
`21:11.54`	`Patlabor221`	`that should work if evertying is in those places`
`21:12.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok...`
`21:12.09`	`Patlabor221`	`do you actualy have to?`
`21:12.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It closed again`
`21:12.29`	`Cell`	`log*n < log n ?`
`21:12.33`	`larsl`	`Patlabor221: I have to, at least.`
`21:12.34`	`Patlabor221`	`windows ME may not like the long file names`
`21:12.51`	`Patlabor221`	`put the map in the same place as bzfs.exe`
`21:12.51`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What?`
`21:12.52`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: Did you add a public message?`
`21:12.54`	`Patlabor221`	`and make it a short name`
`21:12.56`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok... brb`
`21:12.58`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ok`
`21:13.00`	`Patlabor221`	`and add the public message`
`21:13.56`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:14.14`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:14.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`spaces in server message?`
`21:14.33`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`IT KEEPS CLOSING!!!!!!`
`21:14.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`UUGH!`
`21:14.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`"C:\Program Files\BZFlag1.7g0\bzfs.exe" -public Test Server -world newcastle.map`
`21:14.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What's wrong?`
`21:15.03`	`captain_proton`	`[STC]_creeperz: put "Test Server" in quotes`
`21:15.08`	`Patlabor221`	`quotes areound the server message`
`21:15.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Awwwwww`
`21:15.10`	`larsl`	`What is it supposed to do on Windows?`
`21:15.26`	`Patlabor221`	`if you run from the command line you can see why it's fialing`
`21:15.37`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok, it opened and stayed`
`21:15.42`	`Patlabor221`	`then it's running`
`21:15.44`	`Patlabor221`	`have fun`
`21:15.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`But no text`
`21:15.53`	`Patlabor221`	`not suposed to have any`
`21:15.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`AWESOME!!!!`
`21:15.59`	`Patlabor221`	`unless you do a -d or 4`
`21:16.07`	`larsl`	`Try connecting to localhost, port 5155. =)`
`21:16.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`-d?`
`21:16.17`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok, I'm gunna go`
`21:16.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`IS it in the server list now?`
`21:16.33`	`Patlabor221`	`should be`
`21:16.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:17.10`	`Cell`	`(aa)* == (a\|a)* Are the two regex equal?`
`21:17.33`	`larsl`	`I don't think so.`
`21:17.40`	`Cell`	`why?`
`21:17.48`	`larsl`	`aa matches a string containing 2 'a'.`
`21:18.00`	`Cell`	`hm`
`21:18.01`	`larsl`	`a\|a should be the same as a*`
`21:18.03`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It's blank!`
`21:18.14`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No map!`
`21:18.25`	`Patlabor221`	`your map file had data in it?`
`21:18.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`21:18.35`	`larsl`	`So the second matches 'a', but not the first.`
`21:18.43`	`Patlabor221`	`you sure?`
`21:18.46`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`YES!!`
`21:18.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I just checked!!`
`21:19.18`	`Cell`	`i construct a NFA for both -> DFA -> minimazing and looking if they are isomorph`
`21:19.37`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Plus, 1 shot, no rico`
`21:19.38`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~ducati6`
`21:19.41`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`AND NO MAP!`
`21:19.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`~ducati6`
`21:19.51`	`Patlabor221`	`well you didn't set any other options on the map did you?`
`21:20.00`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No`
`21:20.05`	`Patlabor221`	`so of course it's 1 shot no rico`
`21:20.06`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I just did what you said`
`21:20.08`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: You really should run it from the command line with a couple of -d switched.`
`21:20.13`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`21:20.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`-d?`
`21:20.17`	`Patlabor221`	`and some more options`
`21:20.20`	`larsl`	`-d -d -d. =)`
`21:20.26`	`Patlabor221`	`-d adds debug loging`
`21:20.31`	`Patlabor221`	`so you can see what is going on`
`21:20.43`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ohhh k?`
`21:20.52`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Not understanding`
`21:20.57`	`Cell`	`larsl, they are equal`
`21:21.05`	`larsl`	`~bzfquery host-178-78-220-24.midco.net`
`21:21.10`	`larsl`	`Cell: Really?`
`21:21.14`	`Cell`	`yep`
`21:21.14`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How you know that?`
`21:21.24`	`Patlabor221`	`creeper do you know how to use the command line on your computer`
`21:21.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No idea`
`21:21.42`	`larsl`	`Cell: Does the first one match "a"?`
`21:21.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Do I?`
`21:21.55`	`Cell`	`larsl:yes`
`21:22.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Isn't easier to use a batch file?`
`21:22.09`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Or not?`
`21:22.12`	`larsl`	`Cell: Aaaaah... yes.`
`21:22.17`	`Patlabor221`	`no cus you can't see the output then`
`21:22.19`	`larsl`	`Cell: Those darned stars.`
`21:22.24`	`Patlabor221`	`use the ms-dos prompt`
`21:22.26`	`Cell`	`:)`
`21:22.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:22.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Umm`
`21:22.41`	`larsl`	`Cell: I always mistake them for '+'.`
`21:22.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What do I do in command line to make flags`
`21:22.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`And other things?`
`21:23.09`	`Patlabor221`	`-ms for multiple shots`
`21:23.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Just set it up like I would a .bat file?`
`21:23.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:23.25`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Like me stop server`
`21:23.25`	`Patlabor221`	`you don't know what a bat file does do you?`
`21:23.36`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Not really`
`21:23.37`	`Patlabor221`	`the bat file jsut calls those options in a command line`
`21:23.51`	`Patlabor221`	`you should proalby learn how to use your computer`
`21:24.04`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:24.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How?`
`21:24.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Classes?`
`21:24.15`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: If you run 'bzfs -help' in a terminal window you will see all the options.`
`21:24.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`terminal window`
`21:24.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`??`
`21:24.45`	`Patlabor221`	`or look at the HTML man pages in the programs list in your start menu`
`21:24.46`	`larsl`	`Command interpreter, DOS prompt, whatever.`
`21:24.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`oh`
`21:25.00`	`Patlabor221`	`terminal window = command promtpt = ms-dos prompt`
`21:26.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`"Bad command or file name"`
`21:26.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:26.51`	`Patlabor221`	`did you change to the directory where bz is?`
`21:27.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No :)`
`21:27.36`	`Patlabor221`	`you need to do that`
`21:27.45`	`Patlabor221`	`cd where ever the hell your folder is`
`21:27.52`	`Patlabor221`	`but it can't have spaces`
`21:27.52`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How?`
`21:27.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:27.58`	`Patlabor221`	`not in windows me`
`21:27.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Underscores?`
`21:28.03`	`Patlabor221`	`use the CD command`
`21:28.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`CD?`
`21:28.10`	`Patlabor221`	`CD`
`21:28.14`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:28.17`	`Patlabor221`	`where is your folder?`
`21:28.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What's it do?`
`21:28.31`	`Patlabor221`	`changes directory`
`21:28.41`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:28.46`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`CD= Change Dir`
`21:28.57`	`Patlabor221`	`bingo`
`21:29.26`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What do I use instead of spaces?`
`21:29.58`	`Patlabor221`	`nothing`
`21:30.01`	`Patlabor221`	`you can't have them`
`21:30.15`	`Patlabor221`	`program files will become progra~1`
`21:30.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh, just take them out? Or change the file names?`
`21:30.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:30.23`	`Patlabor221`	`or find the short name`
`21:30.28`	`Patlabor221`	`where is your folder?`
`21:30.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`C:\Program Files\bzflag 1.7g0`
`21:31.46`	`Patlabor221`	`what does the command line say now?`
`21:31.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Too many parameters`
`21:32.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`n\m`
`21:32.23`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I'm stupid`
`21:32.27`	`Patlabor221`	`type c:\`
`21:32.33`	`Patlabor221`	`then hit enter`
`21:32.37`	`Patlabor221`	`then type dir`
`21:32.43`	`Patlabor221`	`look for antying that has progra in it`
`21:32.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:33.03`	`Patlabor221`	`then type cd progra <- what ever the hell it says in the dir`
`21:33.18`	`Patlabor221`	`then do the same thing and look for a something with bz`
`21:33.24`	`Patlabor221`	`then CD to that dir`
`21:33.29`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How do I scroll up?`
`21:33.32`	`Patlabor221`	`then you can do bzfs.exe -help`
`21:33.32`	`Cell`	`brb`
`21:33.43`	`Patlabor221`	`you get windows 2k, or XP`
`21:33.47`	`Patlabor221`	`dir -w`
`21:33.50`	`Patlabor221`	`or /w`
`21:33.52`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't remember`
`21:33.55`	`Patlabor221`	`makes it "wide"`
`21:34.25`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What am I doing anyway?!`
`21:34.50`	`Patlabor221`	`just trying to find the path name of your bzflag folder`
`21:35.00`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Why do I need to?`
`21:35.02`	`Patlabor221`	`cus windows ME is to lame to accept the long file name`
`21:35.12`	`Patlabor221`	`cus you have to change to that dir before you can call bzfs`
`21:35.29`	`Patlabor221`	`otherwise the computer won't know what bzfs you want to call`
`21:35.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I still don't understand`
`21:35.34`	`Patlabor221`	`it's not psycic`
`21:35.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I am so stupid!`
`21:35.48`	`Cell`	`http://192.168.123.254/`
`21:35.48`	`Patlabor221`	`you want to tell the computer to run bzfs.exe`
`21:35.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I don't understand any of this!`
`21:35.50`	`Patlabor221`	`right?`
`21:36.06`	`Cell`	`can u see smth`
`21:36.07`	`Cell`	`?`
`21:36.13`	`Patlabor221`	`the computer needs to know where bzfs.exe is`
`21:36.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`smth?`
`21:36.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:36.22`	`Cell`	`sometging?`
`21:36.34`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I can see my computer screen`
`21:36.45`	`larsl_away`	`Cell: Loading...`
`21:36.47`	`Patlabor221`	`creeper not everyone in the world is talking to you.`
`21:36.51`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:37.03`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No one else is talking...`
`21:37.07`	`larsl`	`Cell: Couldn't establish connection.`
`21:37.12`	`Patlabor221`	`they were`
`21:37.13`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:37.17`	`Patlabor221`	`see`
`21:37.33`	`larsl`	`Cell: Wait a minute, 192.168?`
`21:37.33`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I guess so`
`21:37.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Sorry`
`21:37.39`	`larsl`	`Cell: Your local network?`
`21:39.12`	`Patlabor221`	`cell that's your non routable`
`21:39.18`	`Patlabor221`	`what is your real IP?`
`21:40.02`	`Patlabor221`	`creeper did you find the path?`
`21:40.09`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I gave up`
`21:40.14`	`Patlabor221`	`why>`
`21:40.23`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I don't understand what you are talking about`
`21:41.26`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`GOT IT!`
`21:41.32`	`Patlabor221`	`all you are doing is running bzfs in a command window`
`21:42.01`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`C:\progra~\bzflag1.7g0`
`21:42.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`nope!`
`21:42.35`	`Patlabor221`	`the bzflag1.7.go will be shortend`
`21:42.41`	`Patlabor221`	`proabably bzflag1~`
`21:42.43`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Nope`
`21:42.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I got it`
`21:43.11`	`Patlabor221`	`ok so cd to that folder`
`21:43.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Have`
`21:43.23`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Typed DIR`
`21:43.32`	`Patlabor221`	`do you see bzfs.exe`
`21:43.42`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`yes`
`21:43.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`But it looks like`
`21:43.52`	`*** join/#bzflag XcELL (~alton@pD9590BBE.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`21:43.53`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`BZFS EXE`
`21:43.55`	`XcELL`	`oh`
`21:43.56`	`Patlabor221`	`so`
`21:44.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I don't know :)`
`21:44.21`	`Patlabor221`	`type bzfs.exe -- help`
`21:44.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Just commenting`
`21:44.25`	`Patlabor221`	`well --help`
`21:44.28`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: That's how DOS list the files.`
`21:44.32`	`Patlabor221`	`doubling up cell?`
`21:44.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`got it`
`21:44.45`	`XcELL`	`http://217.89.11.190/spider.jpg`
`21:44.47`	`XcELL`	`try`
`21:44.58`	`XcELL`	`virtual server`
`21:45.01`	`larsl`	`Only one '-' (on Linux at least). 'bzfs -help'`
`21:45.09`	`Patlabor221`	`oh yeah then only 1`
`21:45.18`	`Patlabor221`	`yes cell it works`
`21:45.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`2 here`
`21:45.22`	`XcELL`	`cool`
`21:45.32`	`Patlabor221`	`I think it will work with both`
`21:45.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It worked for me`
`21:45.40`	`larsl`	`XcELL: New tank model for BZFlag? =)`
`21:45.45`	`XcELL`	`yeah`
`21:45.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`21:45.46`	`Patlabor221`	`creeper now type in bzfs.exe with all your options`
`21:45.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`That would be awesome`
`21:45.50`	`XcELL`	`a battle spider`
`21:45.58`	`larsl`	`bzfs --help just gives the short help on Linux.`
`21:46.10`	`Patlabor221`	`-ms 10 +r -r ect...`
`21:46.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`bzfs.exe -ms 10 BLAH BLAH?`
`21:46.36`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~ducati6`
`21:46.39`	`Patlabor221`	`if you just want random flags good and bad do +s -s`
`21:47.34`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Do I have to structure it like in the command line?`
`21:47.51`	`*** join/#bzflag scanline (~micah@aden2-42-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)`
`21:47.55`	`Patlabor221`	`bzfs -world crap.map +r -r +s -s -ms 10 -public "my server damit"`
`21:48.06`	`captain_proton`	`crap.map :)`
`21:48.09`	`Patlabor221`	`you are in the command line`
`21:48.10`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Start like that?`
`21:48.13`	`Patlabor221`	`most of them are`
`21:48.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`crap map?`
`21:48.19`	`XcELL`	`http://217.89.11.190/tankp.jpg, a juicer`
`21:48.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Mine are`
`21:48.27`	`Patlabor221`	`what ever your map is called man, common sense`
`21:48.34`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I know`
`21:49.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Start like that?`
`21:49.12`	`Patlabor221`	`huh?`
`21:49.17`	`Patlabor221`	`the order dosn't mater`
`21:49.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`21:49.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:49.35`	`Patlabor221`	`it's just -[option] [any data that option needs]`
`21:49.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`brb`
`21:49.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`in brackets?`
`21:49.46`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`brb`
`21:49.50`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`21:50.53`	`XcELL`	`fie chicory`
`21:51.01`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`oh`
`21:51.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Lets say that my map was in a different dir, do I specify the new directory? I think I have to`
`21:51.52`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`And I don't need CD anymore?`
`21:52.12`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: You can write the absolute path: 'C:\MYMAPDIR\MYMAP'`
`21:52.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:52.36`	`Patlabor221`	`you only CD to the bzflag dir`
`21:52.41`	`Patlabor221`	`to get to bzfs.exe`
`21:52.43`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ok`
`21:52.48`	`Patlabor221`	`in -world you tell it where the map is`
`21:52.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`And bzfs.exe will be like this from now on?`
`21:53.03`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`21:53.06`	`Patlabor221`	`you do this every time`
`21:53.15`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So I have to type this every single time?`
`21:53.19`	`Patlabor221`	`or put it all in a batch or shortcut when you are sure it works`
`21:53.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Dang!!`
`21:53.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:53.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I think I'll do that!`
`21:53.39`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Tell me how later, ok? Can yu?`
`21:54.02`	`Patlabor221`	`just put all those options after the shortuct target dir, like I said before.`
`21:54.06`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`huh`
`21:54.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What?`
`21:54.37`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`NOO!!!!`
`21:54.40`	`Patlabor221`	`all the -world -what ever stuff?`
`21:54.47`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I pushed up button!`
`21:54.49`	`Patlabor221`	`put that in the shortcut`
`21:54.55`	`Patlabor221`	`that would get rid of it all then`
`21:55.03`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes! It did!`
`21:55.06`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`:(`
`21:55.14`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I had it almost all done, too!`
`21:55.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Aww well`
`21:55.26`	`Patlabor221`	`well then it should not be to hard to enter again`
`21:55.28`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`weres this specaly zweo challege today`
`21:55.31`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`zero`
`21:55.35`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`wich serevr`
`21:55.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:55.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No idea :)`
`21:55.45`	`Patlabor221`	`no any of the normal servers tea`
`21:55.53`	`Patlabor221`	`zero no go on any of the normals`
`21:55.58`	`Patlabor221`	`someone will have to start one`
`21:56.06`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`PICK ME!!!`
`21:56.07`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`21:56.21`	`Patlabor221`	`hun creeper?`
`21:56.27`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`N`
`21:56.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`N\m*`
`21:56.30`	`Patlabor221`	`do you even know what he's talking about?`
`21:56.36`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`what?`
`21:56.39`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`lol`
`21:56.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Not really`
`21:56.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`But yes`
`21:56.52`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Its a scary thing`
`21:56.58`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`So am I!`
`21:57.00`	`Patlabor221`	`tea the guy who orginised it will most likly run a server`
`21:57.21`	`larsl`	`What's the zero challenge?`
`21:57.21`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ibot, [Tea\|tree]?`
`21:57.22`		`hmm... [tea\|tree] is the cow who cried moo`
`21:57.25`	`Patlabor221`	`damn you wierd boy`
`21:57.41`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`lol`
`21:57.45`	`Patlabor221`	`somone wanted to get a large BZFlag:zero game going`
`21:57.48`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ibot, patlabor221?`
`21:57.49`		`hmm... patlabor221 is http://www.artemisgames.com/webcam.html`
`21:57.57`	`Patlabor221`	`they posted on bzbb`
`21:58.00`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`[STC]_creeperz: pssssssch enough`
`21:58.09`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`psssssssch?`
`21:58.23`	`Patlabor221`	`creeper if you keep being this anyoing noone will want to help you.`
`21:58.23`	`Patlabor221`	`calm down`
`21:58.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Ok`
`21:59.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`No one wants to help me anyway`
`21:59.15`	`Patlabor221`	`hunh?`
`21:59.22`	`Patlabor221`	`me and larsl have been trying to`
`21:59.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`You wouldn't understand`
`21:59.31`	`Patlabor221`	`but not if you act like that`
`21:59.47`	`Patlabor221`	`if people don't want to help you, them maybe you are anoying them`
`22:00.02`	`XcELL`	`Patlabor221:how do you like my billboard tree: http://217.89.11.190/tree.png , should be used in bzflag :)`
`22:00.03`	`Patlabor221`	`think about what you do and how it affects others`
`22:00.22`	`Patlabor221`	`cell that is way to shinny`
`22:00.31`	`Patlabor221`	`it's a bunch of spheres`
`22:00.33`	`XcELL`	`i love shinny`
`22:00.41`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: froum dosnt help me ... shellshock aswell`
`22:00.43`	`Patlabor221`	`realy I couldn't tell`
`22:00.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Way!`
`22:00.47`	`XcELL`	`yes spheres with perlin noise bump`
`22:01.12`	`Patlabor221`	`bilboards are dead, a holdover from the past`
`22:01.27`	`Patlabor221`	`parametic fractal trees`
`22:01.30`	`Patlabor221`	`that's the way to go`
`22:01.34`	`XcELL`	`do you think?`
`22:01.43`	`Patlabor221`	`made as a shader :)`
`22:01.48`	`XcELL`	`ah`
`22:02.13`	`captain_proton`	`XcELL: hideous`
`22:03.52`	`XcELL`	`ah`
`22:04.22`	`XcELL`	`ignorants`
`22:04.44`	`Patlabor221`	`kinda looks like it belongs in a kiddie book`
`22:05.27`	`captain_proton`	`looks like something from brendanland`
`22:05.45`	`Patlabor221`	`since your just relying on modeler features to give it a look. and not realy puting any artisitc design in there`
`22:05.56`	`XcELL`	`http://217.89.11.190/tick_look_0_0045.png`
`22:05.59`	`XcELL`	`my actor`
`22:06.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It works`
`22:06.37`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`brb`
`22:06.42`	`Patlabor221`	`wow cell, do you think you used enough spheres?`
`22:06.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`need nutrition`
`22:07.15`	`XcELL`	`lol`
`22:07.28`	`XcELL`	`Patlabor221: whats that for an cam: http://www.artemisgames.com/webcam.html`
`22:07.40`	`Patlabor221`	`it's old`
`22:07.47`	`Patlabor221`	`~forget Patlabor221`
`22:07.47`		`i forgot patlabor221, Patlabor221`
`22:07.51`	`XcELL`	`it shows nothing`
`22:07.57`	`Patlabor221`	`Patlabor221 is www.bakadigital.com`
`22:08.01`	`Patlabor221`	`yes the cam is off`
`22:08.06`	`Patlabor221`	`not even hooked up anymore`
`22:08.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`heh`
`22:08.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How do I end server w/o closing window?`
`22:08.47`	`*** join/#bzflag Patlabor2221 (~jeffm@adsl-64-167-77-250.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)`
`22:09.00`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How do I end server w/o closing window?`
`22:09.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`??`
`22:09.33`	`Patlabor221`	`changed computers`
`22:09.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`22:09.38`	`Patlabor221`	`cell you should sell your models`
`22:09.44`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: You can probably kill it from the process manager.`
`22:09.47`	`Patlabor221`	`I mean if they will pay $4.00 for this`
`22:09.48`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/194361/Action/FullPreview`
`22:09.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How many? :)`
`22:09.52`	`larsl`	`[STC]_creeperz: Or whatever it's called.`
`22:09.55`	`Patlabor221`	`computers?`
`22:10.04`	`Patlabor221`	`a number`
`22:10.04`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`J\K!`
`22:10.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Awesome!`
`22:10.32`	`Patlabor221`	`huh?`
`22:11.02`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`That image`
`22:11.11`	`Patlabor221`	`that model has no awe in it`
`22:11.41`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I think its pretty neat`
`22:11.56`	`Patlabor221`	`it's realy crapy`
`22:12.08`	`Patlabor221`	`I mean could he not rip off an x-wing any worse`
`22:12.27`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`22:12.33`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`true`
`22:12.34`	`Patlabor221`	`and it's flat`
`22:12.41`	`Patlabor221`	`and a bunch of prims`
`22:12.43`	`captain_proton`	`thats also hideous`
`22:12.49`	`Patlabor221`	`has no destinctive silouete`
`22:12.51`	`XcELL`	`http://217.89.11.190/spiderclash.jpg`
`22:12.57`	`XcELL`	`:=0`
`22:13.25`	`XcELL`	`gurgle`
`22:13.27`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`cool`
`22:13.43`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`reminds me of the movie Tron kinda`
`22:13.56`	`XcELL`	`hm yes need to texture`
`22:14.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Anyone here ever play GLTron?`
`22:14.15`	`XcELL`	`me`
`22:14.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Or ArmegeTron?`
`22:14.27`	`XcELL`	`nop`
`22:14.33`	`Chestal`	`I think I played armagetron`
`22:14.37`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I like Armegetron a little bit better`
`22:14.40`	`Patlabor221`	`I mean if I was gonna pay for a ship model it would be like this`
`22:14.40`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/161729/Action/FullPreview`
`22:15.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`You have to BUY them?!`
`22:15.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Geez!`
`22:15.15`	`Patlabor221`	`that one yes`
`22:15.18`	`Patlabor221`	`many are free`
`22:15.18`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Why not just MAKE them?`
`22:15.32`	`Patlabor221`	`it's up to the creator to decide what he wants to charge`
`22:15.35`	`XcELL`	`yeah i make ma models`
`22:15.38`	`Patlabor221`	`cus of TIME`
`22:15.42`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`22:16.01`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/180824/Action/FullPreview >>Lol`
`22:16.10`	`Patlabor221`	`and there are often many people better at modeling then me, or you, or cell`
`22:16.27`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah they have all kinds of stuff`
`22:16.40`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`What 3D Modeler you use, Jeff?`
`22:16.54`	`Patlabor221`	`lightwave for geo crreation`
`22:17.04`	`Patlabor221`	`and milkshape for UP maping`
`22:17.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`UP mapping?`
`22:17.19`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`22:17.27`	`XcELL`	`heard that lightwave can render to texture`
`22:17.30`	`Patlabor221`	`maping the triangles of the model to the teture`
`22:17.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Explain?`
`22:17.35`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Oh`
`22:17.37`	`Patlabor221`	`the current version can I think`
`22:17.37`	`XcELL`	`lightmaps`
`22:17.43`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't have the current version`
`22:17.46`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm on 5.5`
`22:17.50`	`XcELL`	`oh`
`22:17.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Freeware?`
`22:17.58`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`22:18.03`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Awwww`
`22:18.05`	`XcELL`	`expensive`
`22:18.12`	`Patlabor221`	`cheaper then max :)`
`22:18.14`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I need something Freeware`
`22:18.20`	`Patlabor221`	`blender`
`22:18.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`A 3D Modeler`
`22:18.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Easy to use`
`22:18.30`	`Patlabor221`	`blender`
`22:18.45`	`XcELL`	`i heard kazaa offers max for free`
`22:18.45`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Blender= It makes it sound so.... Choppy!`
`22:18.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`22:18.57`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I've searched ALOT there`
`22:19.00`	`Patlabor221`	`milkshape is free for 30 days`
`22:19.04`	`Patlabor221`	`but it's a crap modeler`
`22:19.08`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Only a Rhino(something)`
`22:19.18`	`XcELL`	`gmax`
`22:19.19`	`Patlabor221`	`rhino is not bad`
`22:19.22`	`XcELL`	`is kewl`
`22:19.23`	`Patlabor221`	`it's a surface modeler`
`22:19.28`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Amapi 3D is nice`
`22:19.34`	`Patlabor221`	`gmax is ok, but it ties you to there format`
`22:19.42`	`XcELL`	`scripts`
`22:19.43`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Easy`
`22:19.49`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`But costs ALOT`
`22:20.21`	`XcELL`	`download gmay and xport to many formats via scripts`
`22:20.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/188285/Action/FullPreview`
`22:20.28`	`XcELL`	`gmax`
`22:20.30`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Naw`
`22:20.34`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I won't need one`
`22:20.36`	`Patlabor221`	`should see if we can get TIm to get this guy to donate his tanks :)`
`22:20.37`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/195105/Action/FullPreview`
`22:20.40`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I just like to play`
`22:20.55`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`SWEET!`
`22:21.16`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Hmmmm`
`22:21.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Too blan though`
`22:21.26`	`Patlabor221`	`could get them all for 150`
`22:21.32`	`Patlabor221`	`think you could do better?`
`22:21.37`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`NO!`
`22:21.41`	`XcELL`	`but they are too futuristic`
`22:22.03`	`Patlabor221`	`jumping tanks is not futuristic?`
`22:22.11`	`XcELL`	`lol, it is`
`22:22.12`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/146000/Action/FullPreview`
`22:22.16`	`Patlabor221`	`juping tanks that fire lazers and plasma balls?`
`22:22.24`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Heh`
`22:22.29`	`Patlabor221`	`too many pollys`
`22:22.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`And have a SW around them?`
`22:22.38`	`XcELL`	`200k more than my tooth`
`22:22.50`	`XcELL`	`;)`
`22:23.19`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/147678/Action/FullPreview >>Pretty Cool`
`22:23.37`	`Patlabor221`	`again far too many`
`22:23.42`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`brb`
`22:23.45`	`XcELL`	`<1000`
`22:23.52`	`Patlabor221`	`and to keep it realistic you would have to slow down the tanks too`
`22:23.53`	`XcELL`	`would be fine`
`22:25.39`	`Patlabor221`	`so where is your bzflag clone cell?`
`22:26.22`	`XcELL`	`im my mind`
`22:26.32`	`XcELL`	`it looks fantastic`
`22:26.39`	`XcELL`	`;)`
`22:27.18`	`Patlabor221`	`when you gonna finish it?`
`22:27.18`	`XcELL`	`so much other work`
`22:27.24`	`Patlabor221`	`or at least show us`
`22:27.29`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm this is a good tank model`
`22:27.30`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/189597/Action/FullPreview`
`22:27.45`	`Patlabor221`	`texture needs to be changed a bit`
`22:27.52`	`XcELL`	`yaeah very good`
`22:27.55`	`Patlabor221`	`but it would hold team colors nice`
`22:28.24`	`XcELL`	`but 49 bugs :(`
`22:28.33`	`Patlabor221`	`that's not bad for a model`
`22:28.44`	`XcELL`	`who's gona pay that?`
`22:29.16`	`Patlabor221`	`geting 50$ should not be that hard`
`22:29.22`	`Patlabor221`	`or it wold make a nice donations`
`22:30.04`	`Patlabor221`	`these guys are rather good modelers`
`22:30.07`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm impresed`
`22:32.44`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I g2g`
`22:32.46`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Bye`
`22:34.24`	`XcELL`	`my company logo will look like that maybe: http://217.89.11.190/itlionintro_Szene%201.swf`
`22:35.08`	`XcELL`	`itLion -:\|:-`
`22:36.31`	`*** join/#bzflag freelancer (~luis@ool-18bcd01b.dyn.optonline.net)`
`22:36.46`	`Patlabor221`	`and your compnay name is?`
`22:36.53`	`XcELL`	`itLion`
`22:37.07`	`XcELL`	`cause im born 29 July`
`22:37.24`	`XcELL`	`so i thought a combo lion + it would be kewl`
`22:37.32`	`larsl`	`Ummm...`
`22:37.50`	`Patlabor221`	`his "sign"`
`22:37.52`	`XcELL`	`wait i have it in html`
`22:37.56`	`larsl`	`Ah.`
`22:39.03`	`*** join/#bzflag freelancer (~luis@ool-18bcd01b.dyn.optonline.net)`
`22:39.22`	`freelancer`	`tankenstein here??`
`22:39.48`	`Chestal`	`hi lancer; nope`
`22:40.00`	`freelancer`	`nhi Chestal`
`22:40.16`	`Chestal`	`nno need for the 'n' ;-)`
`22:40.29`	`freelancer`	`thanks`
`22:40.48`	`Chestal`	`but I've seen him a few days ago`
`22:41.10`	`XcELL`	`my company spezializes on distributed web apps: http://217.89.11.190/verteilte.htm`
`22:41.10`	`freelancer`	`if anyone sees proton please tell him i'm at 5156`
`22:41.51`	`XcELL`	`lol`
`22:42.42`	`XcELL`	`still have to work on that a lot`
`22:43.10`	`XcELL`	`and have to find some venture capital`
`22:43.26`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`tank isnt online`
`22:46.49`	`Patlabor221`	`need more then a logo for capital`
`22:47.43`	`XcELL`	`lol, right im working on it`
`22:49.11`	`XcELL`	`but how do you like my plain design?`
`22:49.50`	`XcELL`	`all my work, and most with ms paint`
`22:52.12`	`XcELL`	`its all using webservices and SOAP`
`22:52.36`	`XcELL`	`UDDI server for webservice registration`
`22:53.22`	`Patlabor221`	`all I saw was a shockwave intropage that loooked like a template`
`22:53.25`	`XcELL`	`i try to swim with MS, so i hope they get even bigger`
`22:54.01`	`XcELL`	`oh its not working`
`22:54.30`	`XcELL`	`i just put it into wwroot, that was not good`
`22:54.42`	`XcELL`	`wwwroot`
`22:55.19`	`Patlabor221`	`not showcasing the good IS skills then are ya?`
`22:55.46`	`XcELL`	`IS skills, whats that?`
`22:56.42`	`XcELL`	`take a look at : http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei`
`22:57.26`	`XcELL`	`splinter cell`
`22:57.41`	`XcELL`	`SplinterCell`
`22:59.42`	`larsl`	`XcELL: Just a broken image icon.`
`22:59.50`	`larsl`	`XcELL: Don't you have to <embed> movies?`
`23:00.21`	`XcELL`	`where ?`
`23:00.35`	`larsl`	`http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/`
`23:00.43`	`XcELL`	`i embedde avi`
`23:01.12`	`larsl`	`With an <img> tag?`
`23:01.34`	`XcELL`	`http://217.89.11.190/battlefield.avi`
`23:01.58`	`XcELL`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:02.06`	`larsl`	`I saw it. =9`
`23:02.08`	`larsl`	`=)`
`23:02.21`	`XcELL`	`did u saw me?`
`23:02.48`	`larsl`	`?`
`23:02.59`	`Patlabor221`	`good god he did put an avi in an image tag`
`23:03.10`	`XcELL`	`the picture at the end of the tunnel`
`23:03.41`	`Patlabor221`	`cell you know that won't work on most browsers`
`23:03.50`	`larsl`	`That's not you, that's a cartoon. =)`
`23:03.53`	`XcELL`	`really?`
`23:03.58`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`23:04.00`	`Patlabor221`	`it's not an image`
`23:04.00`	`XcELL`	`its Cell`
`23:04.03`	`XcELL`	`lol`
`23:04.16`	`Patlabor221`	`cell thinks he's a cartoon`
`23:04.20`	`Patlabor221`	`or did you miss that memo?`
`23:05.30`	`*** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-202-1-3-238.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`23:06.49`	`XcELL`	`i call my tank game (if it gets ever done) bzflag zero`
`23:07.07`	`Patlabor221`	`makes sense`
`23:07.16`	`Patlabor221`	`since you have few origonal ideas`
`23:07.23`	`XcELL`	`like streetfighter -> sf alpha -> sf zero`
`23:08.04`	`XcELL`	`or resident evil, capcom makes allways a zero on version 4 or so`
`23:15.51`	`fiberchunks_`	`lo Patlabor221, how goes the battle`
`23:16.04`	`XcELL`	`need deep sleep again, damn`
`23:16.07`	`*** part/#bzflag XcELL (~alton@pD9590BBE.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`23:16.20`	`fiberchunks_`	`amusing conversation, that`
`23:19.42`	`fiberchunks_`	`allo?`
`23:23.24`	`Patlabor221`	`hey`
`23:23.28`	`fiberchunks_`	`heya`
`23:23.39`	`*** join/#bzflag scanline (~micah@aden2-42-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)`
`23:23.45`	`Patlabor221`	`it's ready`
`23:23.47`	`Patlabor221`	`I think`
`23:23.51`	`Patlabor221`	`check it out`
`23:23.56`	`Patlabor221`	`bzbb.bakadigital.com`
`23:23.58`	`fiberchunks_`	`just looking at it -- lemme check some stuff out`
`23:24.35`	`Patlabor221`	`even got the quicklinks in subsliver`
`23:25.48`	`fiberchunks_`	`yah -- looks like all the links - avatars, etc and what not are working fine -- cool`
`23:26.17`	`*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@host-178-78-220-24.midco.net)`
`23:26.22`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Jeff`
`23:26.33`	`Patlabor221`	`I think there may be some avars that are missing`
`23:26.38`	`Patlabor221`	`I know skip uploaded a new one`
`23:26.44`	`Patlabor221`	`yes creeper?`
`23:26.48`	`fiberchunks_`	`I would say -- back up the db from my board - load it on yours, and I'll change the dns once that is complete`
`23:26.50`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I can't put all that much into the stupid dos-prompt`
`23:26.59`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Not much at all!`
`23:27.00`	`Patlabor221`	`okey dokey`
`23:27.09`	`Patlabor221`	`creeper sure you can`
`23:27.20`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How?`
`23:27.25`	`fiberchunks_`	`what's the ip addy of the machine it's on?`
`23:27.26`	`Patlabor221`	`just type it in`
`23:27.38`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`It makes the "asterisk" sound when I reach a set amount of chars`
`23:27.46`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`huh`
`23:27.50`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`problems?`
`23:27.51`	`Patlabor221`	`creeper ooooo then me does suck ass`
`23:27.56`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Yes`
`23:28.06`	`Patlabor221`	`fiber, don't recall but bzbb.bakadigital.com will work for ssh`
`23:28.09`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`How do I config with batch file?`
`23:28.21`	`Patlabor221`	`creeper gimme a bit I'm moving the board`
`23:28.26`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`http://bzbb.bakadigital.com`
`23:28.31`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`ok`
`23:28.32`	`fiberchunks_`	`got the ip -- lemme know when you're ready`
`23:28.36`	`Patlabor221`	`fiber or asgard.bakadigital.com`
`23:28.47`	`Patlabor221`	`shoudl end in 215 right?`
`23:29.05`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`I'll be back in a while`
`23:29.11`	`[STC]_creeperz`	`Watching movie with "pops"`
`23:29.26`	`fiberchunks_`	`208.48.199.215`
`23:29.41`	`fiberchunks_`	`resolves to bzbb.bakadigital.com`
`23:29.49`	`Patlabor221`	`looks right`
`23:29.51`	`fiberchunks_`	`or vice versa :)`
`23:30.05`	`Patlabor221`	`Ive allready set up the host alias`
`23:30.11`	`fiberchunks_`	`cool`
`23:30.26`	`fiberchunks_`	`once you get the db loaded, lemme know and we'll try it out`
`23:30.33`	`Patlabor221`	`backing up now`
`23:32.24`	`Patlabor221`	`ok got the back up`
`23:32.25`	`fiberchunks_`	`we should make an announcement once we move to have folks change their bookmarks and such to point to baka instead of homelinux -- as I'll prob shut down that account after a while (a month or so)`
`23:32.31`	`fiberchunks_`	`cool`
`23:32.52`	`Patlabor221`	`just have to edit the file a tad then I'll up it and merge`
`23:33.03`	`fiberchunks_`	`bbia second`
`23:33.21`	`captain_proton`	`why does doug use ibot to append the topic?`
`23:33.25`	`*** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 \|\| http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://list.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag \|\| http://stats.bzflag.org/ is back \|\| Living on earth may be expensive, but it includes a free yearly trip around the sun.`
`23:33.37`	`Patlabor221`	`cus he don't have access any wayelse :)`
`23:33.51`	`*** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 \|\| http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://list.bzflag.org/ \|\| http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag \|\| http://stats.bzflag.org/ is back \|\| "I don't know what happened, but we seem to have taken on a lot of clocks"`
`23:33.55`	`*** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@aden2-123-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)`
`23:35.24`	`Patlabor221`	`ok it's uploading`
`23:35.52`	`Patlabor221`	`good thing I ziped it this time :)`
`23:39.08`	`Patlabor221`	`and it's a merging now`
`23:40.02`	`Patlabor221`	`for domains I want to get a bzbb.bzflag.org address`
`23:40.33`	`Patlabor221`	`ok we are moved`
`23:40.39`	`Patlabor221`	`you can move the dns now`
`23:41.03`	`fiberchunks_`	`mkay`
`23:41.48`	`fiberchunks_`	`it will probably take a while for that to propagate through the system, but it says all is well`
`23:41.55`	`Patlabor221`	`5 min :)`
`23:42.03`	`Patlabor221`	`the dynamic DNS are cool`
`23:42.15`	`Patlabor221`	`but you want to put a redirector on your end?`
`23:42.26`	`Patlabor221`	`that would be cool cap`
`23:42.35`	`captain_proton`	`whats the IP?`
`23:42.44`	`Patlabor221`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.56`	`Patlabor221`	`I'll have to add it as a host alias right?`
`23:43.09`	`captain_proton`	`yeah`
`23:43.12`	`Patlabor221`	`or can you make it point to bzbb.bakadigital.com?`
`23:43.35`	`fiberchunks_`	`rock on -- working fine`
`23:43.51`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah I put a moving post in there too, so I could make sure it moved`
`23:43.56`	`Patlabor221`	`then used that to test posting.`
`23:44.01`	`Patlabor221`	`and we are on 2.0.4 :)`
`23:44.27`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`What the differnts betwen a Moderator and a Admin?`
`23:44.50`	`captain_proton`	`ok, dns is done`
`23:44.59`	`Patlabor221`	`moderator can moderate just the forums he is allowed to`
`23:45.00`	`captain_proton`	`it'll take a while to propagate`
`23:45.10`	`Patlabor221`	`admin is lord god of all he or she surveys`
`23:45.25`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`cool`
`23:45.37`	`Patlabor221`	`thanks cap, I'll get that added to my vhosts`
`23:45.47`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`i wanna be a Moderator :D`
`23:45.55`	`Patlabor221`	`of what forum?`
`23:45.56`	`Patlabor221`	`and why?`
`23:46.21`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh subsilver`
`23:46.38`	`Patlabor221`	`subsilver is usable now, just not exactly the same as colbalt`
`23:46.43`	`fiberchunks_`	`seems to be kosher from my end -- still a little slow loading - -but it's probably my cache`
`23:47.13`	`Patlabor221`	`well if the machine is too slow I have another one I can replace it with`
`23:47.14`	`fiberchunks_`	`heh, so patlabor and I are lord ghod's on high ;)`
`23:47.39`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: yeah the Forum :D`
`23:47.46`	`Patlabor221`	`what fourm?`
`23:47.48`	`Patlabor221`	`there are many`
`23:48.29`	`Patlabor221`	`well we will know when the dns moves cus the picture should change`
`23:48.39`	`Patlabor221`	`everyone will have to log in again, since the cookie domain changed.`
`23:48.39`	`fiberchunks_`	`it did`
`23:48.59`	`Patlabor221`	`hasn't updated for me yet`
`23:49.05`	`fiberchunks_`	`frag your cache`
`23:49.18`	`Patlabor221`	`but I love my cache`
`23:49.22`	`fiberchunks_`	`heh`
`23:49.23`	`Patlabor221`	`it is precious to me`
`23:49.49`	`fiberchunks_`	`my precioussssssssssssssssssss, musn't take the precioussssssssssssssss`
`23:50.40`	`Patlabor221`	`well it's clearin it`
`23:50.44`	`Patlabor221`	`will take a while`
`23:51.04`	`fiberchunks_`	`you on a windows or leenox machine`
`23:51.13`	`Patlabor221`	`windows is still killing it`
`23:51.19`	`Patlabor221`	`lin updated fine`
`23:51.29`	`fiberchunks_`	`ah`
`23:52.39`	`Patlabor221`	`well looks like it's done`
`23:52.52`	`fiberchunks_`	`give it a shot`
`23:53.06`	`Patlabor221`	`subsilver looks soo difirent when compared to cobalt`
`23:53.24`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh I mean the move, not the cache flus, that's still going :)`
`23:53.30`	`Patlabor221`	`610 megs of cache`
`23:53.34`	`fiberchunks_`	`ah`
`23:53.41`	`fiberchunks_`	`jeezus! :)`
`23:54.22`	`fiberchunks_`	`oh yeah -- look into this -- linuxkungfu.org (look at ipkungfu -- nice little easy to admin front end to iptables)`
`23:54.39`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`23:55.07`	`Patlabor221`	`methinks I may go get a book on this stuff`
`23:55.19`	`fiberchunks_`	`on what -- php/mysql, etc?`
`23:55.22`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor221: bzBB forum :D`
`23:55.47`	`Patlabor221`	`and maybe general 'nix admin`
`23:55.57`	`Patlabor221`	`the php stuff seems not to bad`

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