irclog2html for #bzflag on 20030219

`00:02.25`	`[dmp]`	`rembo: http://daisy.baat.dk/bzflag_soo_close.jpg <- this is why i hate bzflag/tlz :-)`
`00:03.58`	`Rembo`	`dmp: heheheh`
`00:04.39`	`Rembo`	`is it 3-3 or 3-2`
`00:04.43`	`[dmp]`	`Rembo: vbz might be good for a 3on3 match soon`
`00:04.46`	`[dmp]`	`2vs2`
`00:04.52`	`Rembo`	`i mean score`
`00:04.58`	`[dmp]`	`3-3`
`00:05.01`	`Rembo`	`score seems wrong onm the picture`
`00:05.13`	`BaDiN`	`LOL`
`00:05.20`	`Rembo`	`3-3 3-3 but score is 2 3`
`00:05.24`	`Rembo`	`how can that be`
`00:05.33`	`[dmp]`	`That's not score. thats they team-player-count`
`00:05.44`	`BaDiN`	`dmp: you play it very dark!`
`00:06.03`	`Rembo`	`teamplayer count?`
`00:06.06`	`[dmp]`	`BaDiN: You're just blind :-)`
`00:06.19`	`[dmp]`	`Rembo: two players on green, 3 players on red`
`00:06.41`	`BaDiN`	`it is official: the Bananas in Pijamas are a new team`
`00:06.42`	`BaDiN`	`:)`
`00:06.42`	`Rembo`	`oh!`
`00:06.49`	`[dmp]`	`really?!`
`00:06.54`	`[dmp]`	`I'M GONNA KILL YOU :)`
`00:07.05`	`Rembo`	`Are you serious? I always thought it was the score. It was always right`
`00:07.19`	`Rembo`	`LOL`
`00:07.19`	`[dmp]`	`we lost soo much points and match-count 'cause of you, BAAAAAAAAAAAAADin :)`
`00:07.22`	`BaDiN`	`rembo: no!!! lol`
`00:07.30`	`BaDiN`	`dmp: i know, and i'm sorry`
`00:07.35`	`[dmp]`	`Dont be :)`
`00:07.46`	`BaDiN`	`but we're choosing a name for two weeks...`
`00:07.50`	`Rembo`	`he. dmp that can't be right about that 2 3. Are you sure?`
`00:07.54`	`Rembo`	`i am so ashamed`
`00:07.57`	`doughecka`	`BANANAS AND CREAM!`
`00:08.30`	`[dmp]`	`Rembo: format: score-sum-of-won-minus-lost (won-lost) player-count`
`00:08.35`	`Rembo`	`Coup de bananas`
`00:08.59`	`doughecka`	`banana and strawberry yogurt`
`00:09.09`	`doughecka`	`jolly good name eh?`
`00:10.06`	`[dmp]`	`BaDiN: But it's nice that you're back :). Any candidates/members?`
`00:10.13`	`BaDiN`	`yes`
`00:10.16`	`BaDiN`	`the man who let the dogs out`
`00:10.18`	`BaDiN`	`:)`
`00:10.24`	`BaDiN`	`and i'm trying to convince jraitala`
`00:10.55`	`Rembo`	`coooool`
`00:10.58`	`BaDiN`	`thx :)`
`00:11.03`	`BaDiN`	`well`
`00:11.08`	`Rembo`	`we need to play you again`
`00:11.11`	`BaDiN`	`help me convincing jraitala :)`
`00:11.11`	`[dmp]`	`We'll try to destroy your team, this time :)`
`00:11.14`	`jraitala`	`heh`
`00:11.20`	`jraitala`	`it's quite difficult to convince me`
`00:11.21`	`[dmp]`	`erhm.`
`00:11.23`	`[dmp]`	`insert not.`
`00:11.31`	`BaDiN`	`lol`
`00:12.28`	`Rembo`	`didn't you like the game jraitala?`
`00:12.55`	`Rembo`	`official is much more fun.... I think the practice game was even a bit unconcetrated sometimes`
`00:13.07`	`BaDiN`	`rembo: completely :)`
`00:13.18`	`Rembo`	`If it gets official everybody start to go to the toilet, smoke a cigaret and stuff`
`00:13.21`	`BaDiN`	`i control+tabed several times to chat :)`
`00:13.31`	`jraitala`	`rembo: I did like it`
`00:13.37`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`00:13.42`	`Rembo`	`I knew it. I thought we couldn't win so easy`
`00:13.55`	`Rembo`	`I think dmp did that too. sometimes we were playing 2 vs 1`
`00:14.16`	`Rembo`	`that doesn't happen on official matches`
`00:14.22`	`[dmp]`	`bamf was asking me about our tlz match`
`00:14.24`	`[dmp]`	`:)`
`00:14.31`	`Chestal`	`I always use my feet to steer in non-official matches`
`00:14.40`	`doughecka`	`Chestal: shooting?`
`00:14.43`	`BaDiN`	`LOL`
`00:15.07`	`BaDiN`	`well`
`00:15.13`	`Chestal`	`but then again, Moles have 4 feet`
`00:15.26`	`Rembo`	`lol`
`00:15.39`	`Rembo`	`What happened to Big Barrel.`
`00:15.51`	`doughecka`	`he got too big`
`00:15.54`	`Rembo`	`Any news? He should have it's connection back by now`
`00:15.59`	`doughecka`	`we barreled him out`
`00:16.03`	`BaDiN`	`:)`
`00:16.08`	`Rembo`	`he is not waging war on iraq is he?`
`00:16.26`	`doughecka`	`naw... he said he would let me do that first`
`00:16.54`	`[dmp]`	`Rembo: Seems abit odd. I've been writing a few posts on bzflag.org/bzbb .. But i havn't seen him since those posts.`
`00:17.05`	`doughecka`	`hehe`
`00:18.02`	`BaDiN`	`well`
`00:18.03`	`BaDiN`	`people`
`00:18.05`	`BaDiN`	`how about`
`00:18.15`	`doughecka`	`I`
`00:18.16`	`doughecka`	`can`
`00:18.18`	`doughecka`	`type`
`00:18.19`	`BaDiN`	`playing some bz?`
`00:18.19`	`doughecka`	`like`
`00:18.19`	`BaDiN`	`:)`
`00:18.20`	`[dmp]`	`more than twos word per line?`
`00:18.20`	`doughecka`	`that`
`00:18.21`	`doughecka`	`too`
`00:18.24`	`Rembo`	`not for me`
`00:18.29`	`Rembo`	`I am off to bed soon`
`00:18.30`	`[dmp]`	`me neither.`
`00:18.33`	`doughecka`	`ha`
`00:18.36`	`BaDiN`	`sorry :)`
`00:18.43`	`BaDiN`	`what time is it there?`
`00:18.50`	`doughecka`	`7:16`
`00:18.51`	`[dmp]`	`1:15 am`
`00:18.54`	`doughecka`	`7:19`
`00:19.05`	`Rembo`	`1:19`
`00:19.09`	`BaDiN`	`:)`
`00:19.16`	`BaDiN`	`here's 00.19`
`00:19.19`	`Rembo`	`denmark is 4 minutes behind :)`
`00:19.22`	`BaDiN`	`LOL`
`00:19.30`	`doughecka`	`its lag`
`00:19.35`	`Rembo`	`ah`
`00:19.35`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`00:19.43`	`doughecka`	`speed of light and stuff...`
`00:19.52`	`BaDiN`	`e=mc2, etc`
`00:19.54`	`BaDiN`	`:)`
`00:20.00`	`doughecka`	`yup`
`00:20.17`	`BaDiN`	`captain_proton is on the same team that admiral_electron?`
`00:20.31`	`BaDiN`	`and sargent_neutron, lol`
`00:20.32`	`Rembo`	`we need 9 more matches before our 50th celebration... he I thought we needed less`
`00:20.48`	`Rembo`	`Oh wait`
`00:20.57`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1 light/year to miles/hour`
`00:21.01`	`BaDiN`	`add the matches you played against bips`
`00:21.01`	`Rembo`	`never mind. don't want to bring that up again`
`00:21.02`	`doughecka`	`bah`
`00:21.18`	`Rembo`	`sry`
`00:21.27`	`BaDiN`	`:)`
`00:22.03`	`Rembo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:22.16`	`Rembo`	`didn't work`
`00:22.21`	`doughecka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:22.21`	`BaDiN`	`:)`
`00:22.30`	`doughecka`	`~insult BaDiN`
`00:22.33`	`BaDiN`	`/make people play`
`00:22.39`	`BaDiN`	`hey!`
`00:22.44`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`00:22.44`	`Rembo`	`cool`
`00:22.45`	`BaDiN`	`~insult doughecka`
`00:22.52`	`BaDiN`	`LOL`
`00:22.54`	`Rembo`	`~insult rembo`
`00:22.54`	`doughecka`	`~lart BaDiN`
`00:23.02`	`BaDiN`	`man, you're bad :)`
`00:23.24`	`BaDiN`	`~lart doughecka`
`00:23.25`	`BaDiN`	`:P`
`00:23.39`	`BaDiN`	`well`
`00:23.41`	`doughecka`	`~lart the whole planet`
`00:23.41`	`Rembo`	`I am compiling X. It actually seems to work`
`00:23.43`	`BaDiN`	`i'm gonna play a bit`
`00:23.55`	`BaDiN`	`~lart doughecka's mom`
`00:23.59`	`BaDiN`	`;)`
`00:24.08`	`doughecka`	`~die`
`00:24.09`		`ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.`
`00:24.09`	`BaDiN`	`cya ppl`
`00:24.11`	`doughecka`	`cya`
`00:24.19`	`BaDiN`	`anybody joins me?`
`00:24.29`	`doughecka`	`nope`
`00:24.30`	`doughecka`	`:P`
`00:24.31`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`00:24.31`	`Rembo`	`nope`
`00:24.32`	`BaDiN`	`;)`
`00:24.32`	`doughecka`	`:D`
`00:24.36`	`doughecka`	`~killl`
`00:24.37`	`BaDiN`	`nbye`
`00:24.38`	`doughecka`	`~kill`
`00:24.39`		`ACTION kills all the morons`
`00:24.40`	`doughecka`	`bya`
`00:24.40`	`Rembo`	`cu badin`
`00:24.42`	`*** part/#bzflag BaDiN (Paramount@adslsapo-b3-250-217.telepac.pt)`
`00:25.21`	`jraitala`	`hm`
`00:25.49`	`doughecka`	`hm`
`00:26.19`	`doughecka`	`~convert 60 miles/hour to lightyear/year`
`00:26.24`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`00:26.49`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1 lightyear/day to miles/hour`
`00:26.56`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`00:27.04`	`doughecka`	`ibot cant do that high math`
`00:27.04`		`doughecka: I don't know, could you explain it?`
`00:27.18`	`doughecka`	`~shut up`
`00:27.19`		`you shut up, doughecka`
`00:27.25`	`doughecka`	`~I dont want to`
`00:27.59`	`Noodleman`	`ibot, leave`
`00:28.00`		`Noodleman: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?`
`00:28.09`	`Noodleman`	`it used to work :-)`
`00:28.11`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`00:28.16`	`doughecka`	`this is a blootbot`
`00:28.25`	`jraitala`	`floodbot`
`00:28.32`	`doughecka`	`a new product from RONCO!`
`00:28.37`	`doughecka`	`jraitala: huh`
`00:29.25`	`doughecka`	`http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=w4scc.3693000`
`00:29.38`	`doughecka`	`put your own callsign on a clock..`
`00:32.36`	`jraitala`	`it's getting a bit late`
`00:32.37`	`Rembo`	`bye all`
`00:32.42`	`[dmp]`	`bye Rembo`
`00:32.43`	`jraitala`	`bye rembo`
`00:34.24`	`*** join/#bzflag faz (~faz@M289P004.dipool.highway.telekom.at)`
`00:34.40`	`*** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@mxfcl6x201.chesco.com)`
`00:34.58`	`doughecka`	`HEY MrApathyCream!!!!`
`00:35.59`	`MrApathyCream`	`yo`
`00:36.56`	`MrApathyCream`	`and to think tim, chestal and I in the room at the saem time (for 1 sec)`
`00:39.05`	`Chestal`	`I'll be back in approx. 8 hours :-)`
`00:39.35`	`MrApathyCream`	`heh (we won't)`
`00:42.28`	`Jormungandr`	`~convert 100 watts to horsepower`
`00:42.33`	`doughecka`	`haha`
`00:42.40`	`doughecka`	`Jormungandr: ooooh`
`00:42.53`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1 horsepower to watts`
`00:42.58`	`doughecka`	`wow`
`00:43.00`	`Noodleman`	`i didn't know watts was convertable to horsepower`
`00:43.02`	`Jormungandr`	`this one really impresed me....`
`00:43.06`	`doughecka`	`Noodleman: it isnt`
`00:43.07`	`Noodleman`	`shows how much i know :-)`
`00:43.13`	`Jormungandr`	`~convert 100 newton-m/sec to horsepower`
`00:43.15`	`doughecka`	`Noodleman: alot it seems`
`00:43.21`	`doughecka`	`haha`
`00:43.34`	`Jormungandr`	`I was totally impressed by that one.`
`00:43.40`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1 lightyear to miles`
`00:43.45`	`doughecka`	`huh`
`00:43.57`	`Noodleman`	`exponents d00d`
`00:44.02`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`00:44.23`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1 horsepower to newton-m/hour`
`00:44.30`	`doughecka`	`huh`
`00:44.41`	`doughecka`	`convert 1 horsepower to flower power`
`00:44.48`	`Chestal`	`convert bar to pascal`
`00:44.50`	`Jormungandr`	`snort`
`00:44.52`	`Chestal`	`~convert bar to pascal`
`00:45.09`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1 ton to ml`
`00:45.16`	`doughecka`	`bah`
`00:45.37`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1000 gallons to ml`
`00:46.49`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1 lightyear to lightmonth`
`00:46.56`	`Chestal`	`convert calorie/year to horsepower`
`00:46.57`	`doughecka`	`BAH!`
`00:47.01`	`Chestal`	`~convert calorie/year to horsepower`
`00:47.06`	`doughecka`	`Chestal: hahaa`
`00:47.33`	`doughecka`	`~convert joules to volts`
`00:48.07`	`doughecka`	`~convert one gallon to bar`
`00:48.19`	`doughecka`	`~convert 1 gallon to bar`
`00:48.21`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`00:48.26`	`doughecka`	`thats better`
`00:48.27`	`doughecka`	`doesnt see one`
`00:48.29`	`doughecka`	`:(`
`01:02.50`	`Noodleman`	`i'll be at home in a bit`
`01:02.52`	`Noodleman`	`l8r d00dz`
`01:39.39`	`*** join/#bzflag bzdoug (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133)`
`01:39.39`	`bzdoug`	`greetings`
`01:46.03`	`Jormungandr`	`hi`
`01:47.39`	`bzdoug`	`ih!`
`01:47.44`	`bzdoug`	`hmm`
`01:47.49`	`bzdoug`	`!ih`
`01:48.59`	`*** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~chatzilla@216.228.187.207)`
`01:51.13`	`*** join/#bzflag doughecka (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133)`
`01:51.14`	`doughecka`	`greetings`
`01:51.40`	`*** join/#bzflag doughecka (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133)`
`01:51.40`	`doughecka`	`greetings`
`01:51.52`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`01:54.44`	`*** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@rikers.org)`
`01:54.45`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ`
`01:59.55`	`*** join/#bzflag doughecka (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133)`
`01:59.55`	`doughecka`	`greetings`
`02:03.45`	`*** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-172-197-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)`
`02:03.51`	`doughecka`	`hey Patlabor221`
`02:04.17`	`Patlabor221`	`hey`
`02:06.15`	`Patlabor221`	`what up 'g'?`
`02:06.28`	`doughecka`	`?`
`02:08.29`	`Patlabor221`	`howzit in the hizzouz?`
`02:09.04`	`hardwire`	`hizouse?`
`02:09.34`	`doughecka`	`hes drunk I'm affraid`
`02:10.03`	`Patlabor221`	`I am?`
`02:10.26`	`doughecka`	`yooz be talkinz like itz`
`02:10.44`	`Patlabor221`	`no that's just how hizzouz is spelled`
`02:10.52`	`doughecka`	`ah..`
`02:10.59`	`doughecka`	`~spell hizzouz`
`02:11.04`		`possible spellings for hizzouz: huzzahs hideous pizazz huzzah Hormuz heinous Hinze dizzies hazes tizzies whizzes Izzy's bizzes fizzes hiatus hippos mezzos pizzas wizzes Hz Izzy Haze's Hiss's haze's hazers hiss's hisses House Zzz hazy hideout hours house Heinz Hinze's Horus Isuzu hips hoax houses Lizzy's hippo's pizza's tizzy's vicious Hus Lizzy dizzy fizzy his hos hoses tizzy Sioux hazer's`
`02:11.12`	`Patlabor221`	`huzzzah!`
`02:11.13`	`doughecka`	`hippos?`
`02:11.27`	`Patlabor221`	`get jizzy with the fizzzy`
`02:11.34`	`doughecka`	`hippos tizzy pizza`
`02:12.04`	`Patlabor221`	`just keep it real, yo.`
`02:13.00`	`Patlabor221`	`get one of the gigafast ones, they are like $20 after rebate`
`02:13.13`	`doughecka`	`oh?`
`02:13.29`	`doughecka`	`do they support routing all UDP packets in and out?`
`02:13.41`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`02:13.53`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`02:13.59`	`Patlabor221`	`in the rout table you can do tcp,udp, or both`
`02:14.00`	`Patlabor221`	`per port`
`02:14.04`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`02:14.05`	`Patlabor221`	`to any IP in the internal net`
`02:14.20`	`doughecka`	`how about 5000-6000 UDP and TCP?`
`02:14.29`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`02:14.47`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`02:14.59`	`Patlabor221`	`it does ANY port on any protocoll`
`02:15.16`	`doughecka`	`cool`
`02:15.19`	`Patlabor221`	`most modern ones do that`
`02:15.23`	`Patlabor221`	`you just have a lame one`
`02:15.29`	`Patlabor221`	`like supper lame`
`02:15.49`	`doughecka`	`huh`
`02:15.56`	`Patlabor221`	`your asante one`
`02:16.10`	`doughecka`	`yup`
`02:16.12`	`Patlabor221`	`I have had a dlink, gigafast, and a linksys`
`02:16.20`	`Patlabor221`	`and they all do any port any proto`
`02:16.25`	`Patlabor221`	`never seen one that dosn't`
`02:16.27`	`Patlabor221`	`cept yours`
`02:18.21`	`Noodleman`	`just use iptables and nat it :-)`
`02:18.32`	`Patlabor221`	`you can do that oo`
`02:19.29`	`doughecka`	`Noodleman: hah, I would need to find a) 2 ethernet cards that work in linux b) a linux box thats quieter than a dead mouse on the moon on the dark side with sound proof boxing around it`
`02:19.47`	`Patlabor221`	`3com cards work`
`02:19.52`	`Noodleman`	`200 dollar wal-mart boxen`
`02:20.01`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`02:20.08`	`Noodleman`	`there's a linux box thats quieter than a dead mouse on the moon on the dark side with sound proof boxing around it`
`02:20.09`	`*** join/#bzflag Blast (~d8919837@203.194.240.139)`
`02:20.24`	`doughecka`	`hehe`
`02:20.36`	`Noodleman`	`i cannot tell a lie`
`02:20.45`	`Patlabor221`	`solid state`
`02:20.51`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`02:21.48`	`Noodleman`	`i've got an old workstation that runs so cool, i cut the fan`
`02:21.51`	`Patlabor221`	`doug ain't got 2 bucks for the buss`
`02:21.59`	`Noodleman`	`it boots diskless too :-)`
`02:22.19`	`doughecka`	`Noodleman: hah`
`02:22.21`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`02:22.33`	`Patlabor221`	`then get a router`
`02:22.33`	`doughecka`	`but no presents...`
`02:22.52`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`02:23.00`	`Noodleman`	`dint get your radio?`
`02:23.08`	`doughecka`	`its coming`
`02:23.16`	`Noodleman`	`kewl`
`02:24.02`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`02:24.16`	`Noodleman`	`don't forget to flush!`
`02:24.24`	`doughecka`	`haha`
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`02:32.46`	`doughecka`	`http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=G300-1064 ?`
`02:33.20`	`Noodleman`	`does anyone know how to set a password for a new user in mysql?`
`02:33.30`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`02:33.45`	`Patlabor221`	`for a database or for the server?`
`02:33.48`	`TimRiker`	`well, until the phone rings that is.`
`02:33.49`	`doughecka`	`TimRiker: can they act as router?`
`02:33.51`	`doughecka`	`s?`
`02:33.56`	`doughecka`	`TimRiker: hah`
`02:33.58`	`TimRiker`	`yes. 2 pcmcia slots.`
`02:34.04`	`doughecka`	`TimRiker: interesting...`
`02:34.15`	`TimRiker`	`though they are not cardbus, so it's not very high throughput.`
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`02:34.39`	`Noodleman`	`does anyone know how to set a password for a new user in mysql with sql commands?`
`02:34.47`	`Noodleman`	`doughecka is evil`
`02:34.51`	`Noodleman`	`he uses a gui`
`02:34.52`	`Noodleman`	`:-P`
`02:34.53`	`Patlabor221`	`noodle for the server or just one database?`
`02:35.00`	`doughecka`	`TimRiker: do they have a serial port and a sound card?`
`02:35.04`	`Noodleman`	`for the server`
`02:35.14`	`Patlabor221`	`mysqladmin has that option I think`
`02:35.16`	`doughecka`	`kewl`
`02:35.25`	`Noodleman`	`i just can't find it`
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`02:35.28`	`TimRiker`	`Noodleman: set the password field to password('password') iirc`
`02:35.36`	`Noodleman`	`ok`
`02:35.54`	`TimRiker`	`doughecka: serial port, sound chip. needs the shanip board to be a real sound card.`
`02:35.58`	`Patlabor221`	`and it's like -u to set the user I think`
`02:36.19`	`doughecka`	`TimRiker: hmm, cool... no keyboard?`
`02:36.23`	`Noodleman`	`i've done it before...`
`02:36.24`	`Patlabor221`	`if you want another user then your loged in as`
`02:36.38`	`TimRiker`	`doughecka: an iPAQ with a dual pcmcia sleeve would work and be more mainstream.`
`02:36.53`	`doughecka`	`TimRiker: ah... :)`
`02:37.01`	`TimRiker`	`doughecka: yes, ir keyboard (tuxscreen) it's a mute point though, they are sold out.`
`02:37.11`	`doughecka`	`TimRiker: hah`
`02:37.12`	`Noodleman`	`Access denied for user`
`02:37.16`	`Noodleman`	`brb`
`02:37.29`	`TimRiker`	`Noodleman: -p ?`
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`02:38.49`	`bzdoug`	`greetings`
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`02:48.44`	`Noodleman`	`TimRiker: i'm using -p`
`02:48.55`	`Noodleman`	`[tucker@deneb tucker]$ mysql -p -u bzflagrw`
`02:49.01`	`Noodleman`	`Enter password:`
`02:49.06`	`Noodleman`	`ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'bzflagrw@localhost' (Using password: YES)`
`02:49.28`	`Noodleman`	`mysql> update user set Password = 'password' where User = 'bzflagrw';`
`02:49.33`	`Noodleman`	`Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)`
`02:51.39`	`Jormungandr`	`&`
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`03:16.02`	`MrApathyCream`	`heh nice shirts`
`03:16.05`	`MrApathyCream`	`:):)`
`03:19.21`	`Noodleman`	`they are r33t, aren't they :-)`
`03:19.28`	`MrApathyCream`	`yup`
`03:19.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`need non white, next`
`03:19.52`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`03:20.10`	`Noodleman`	`they don't print in white tho :-(`
`04:10.53`	`TimRiker`	`Noodleman: password needs to be encrypted`
`04:11.11`	`Noodleman`	`i figured it out, thx d00d`
`04:11.13`	`TimRiker`	`~password(password,xx)`
`04:11.30`	`TimRiker`	`~crypt password,xx`
`04:11.30`		`hsejUhvD1YmNY`
`04:11.39`	`TimRiker`	`~crypt password xx`
`04:12.06`	`TimRiker`	`~crypt password xx`
`04:15.19`	`TimRiker`	`~crypt xx password`
`04:15.19`		`xxj31ZMTZzkVA`
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`04:56.18`	`test`	`quick test`
`05:29.30`	`Noodleman`	`does anyone know what the bzflag:zero executable is called?`
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`08:49.05`	`bruno`	`Hello !`
`08:49.13`	`bruno`	`Bzflag experts here ?`
`09:01.22`	`bruno`	`No ?`
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`09:29.14`	`bruno`	`HELLO`
`09:29.20`	`bruno`	`ANY HELP FOR ME PLEASE!`
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`09:39.25`	`bruno`	`Hello?`
`09:43.13`	`bruno`	`Well?`
`09:43.14`	`bruno`	`No ?`
`09:43.18`	`bruno`	`Someonethere ?`
`09:43.36`	`bruno`	`Someone to help me with bzflag problem ?`
`09:44.08`	`TimRiker`	`perhaps it would help if you stated the problem.`
`09:44.12`	`bruno`	`ok`
`09:44.40`	`bruno`	`when i try to run any opengl game, particularly bzflag, i have a Segmentation Fault :-/`
`09:45.18`	`TimRiker`	`gforce card?`
`09:45.31`	`bruno`	`no`
`09:45.34`	`bruno`	`Voodoo 3 2000`
`09:45.49`	`TimRiker`	`ah. different card, same issue.`
`09:45.57`	`TimRiker`	`update the drivers. OS?`
`09:46.04`	`bruno`	`Linux Mandrake 9.0`
`09:46.08`	`bruno`	`drivers updated`
`09:46.34`	`bruno`	`but i think the problem is only when i run kde in 1280x960, not in 1024 768`
`09:50.02`	`bruno`	`idea ?`
`09:51.18`	`scanline`	`what color depth are you using?`
`09:51.21`	`TimRiker`	`ah. the card needs more memory for GL`
`09:51.33`	`bruno`	`you think`
`09:51.39`	`TimRiker`	`so high resolutions can cause crashes.`
`09:52.02`	`bruno`	`yes but i think it works with 1280x1024 but slow, without segmentation fault`
`09:52.03`	`TimRiker`	`how much ram on the card?`
`09:52.07`	`bruno`	`8Mo`
`09:52.20`	`TimRiker`	`ugh...`
`09:52.53`	`TimRiker`	`~1024 * 768 * 2`
`09:52.54`		`1572864`
`09:52.54`	`bruno`	`:-(`
`09:53.21`	`bruno`	`?`
`09:53.21`	`TimRiker`	`1024x768x16 might be the highest hw accel mode.`
`09:53.29`	`bruno`	`oki`
`09:54.07`	`bruno`	`but when i try to run it with --geometry and 1024x768 as i am in 1280x960, it crashes too`
`09:55.25`	`TimRiker`	`the card will need to be in lower res to start.`
`09:55.54`	`bruno`	`sure ?`
`09:56.15`	`TimRiker`	`I know other 3dfx folk have had to do that. ymmv`
`09:56.40`	`bruno`	`so i need to change the resolution, then restart x and start bzflag !?`
`09:59.13`	`bruno`	`~ Coucou`
`10:06.17`	`bruno`	`so i need to change the resolution, then restart x and start bzflag !?`
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`11:07.48`	`ak\|ra`	`hi`
`11:18.47`	`TimRiker`	`~bzflist`
`11:19.45`	`TimRiker`	`ak\|ra: seen the stats? http://list.bzflag.org/ click them to get more info.`
`11:36.35`	`ak\|ra`	`nice`
`11:36.40`	`ak\|ra`	`where is ducati? :)`
`11:36.48`	`ak\|ra`	`ah, there`
`11:38.26`	`jraitala`	`good morning`
`11:40.15`	`ak\|ra`	`nice and nifty`
`11:40.16`	`ak\|ra`	`:)`
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`13:06.35`	`Jormungandr`	`~bzflist`
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`14:30.42`	`Jormungandr`	`hi M_A_C`
`14:30.46`	`Jormungandr`	`another snow day?`
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`16:49.23`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`somewone who uses Redhat here?`
`16:50.00`	`Secret_Hamster`	`yo-hoo that would be me`
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`16:51.36`	`ak\|ra`	`re`
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`17:02.09`	`bzdoug`	`'lo Patlabor221`
`17:02.22`	`Patlabor221`	`hello`
`17:02.31`	`Patlabor221`	`can you realy put the o'rily logo on a shirt?`
`17:02.54`	`bzdoug`	`yup`
`17:02.59`	`bzdoug`	`timrikers doing`
`17:03.00`	`bzdoug`	`:)`
`17:03.19`	`Patlabor221`	`actualy I think noodleman made the image`
`17:03.42`	`bzdoug`	`yea, but timriker got the shirts setup on that website`
`17:04.24`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh tht's easy`
`17:04.33`	`Patlabor221`	`anyone can set up a cafepress account`
`17:04.35`	`Patlabor221`	`I've done like 4`
`17:04.42`	`bzdoug`	`Noodleman did the hard stuff :)`
`17:05.17`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhh it's a fake of there logo`
`17:05.20`	`Patlabor221`	`very clode`
`17:05.22`	`Patlabor221`	`close`
`17:05.39`	`Patlabor221`	`they need to do the sweatshirts too`
`17:05.39`	`bzdoug`	`hehe`
`17:08.52`	`bzdoug`	`hats`
`17:08.52`	`bzdoug`	`:)`
`17:08.56`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hats`
`17:09.00`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`ha?`
`17:09.05`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`tad`
`17:09.12`	`bzdoug`	`hm?`
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`17:38.55`	`Noodleman`	`w00w00w00`
`17:39.15`	`bzdoug`	`ITS A TRAIN!!! RUNNN!!!!!!`
`17:45.36`	`Noodleman`	`have you ordered a shirt, yet, doug?`
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`17:45.47`	`Patlabor221`	`I did`
`17:45.52`	`Noodleman`	`kewl`
`17:46.00`	`bzdoug`	`nope`
`17:46.01`	`Noodleman`	`mine should be here next week`
`17:46.03`	`Patlabor221`	`do a sweatshirt`
`17:46.05`	`bzdoug`	`no money :P`
`17:46.12`	`Patlabor221`	`and tank boxers`
`17:46.18`	`Patlabor221`	`doug you have 103$ US`
`17:46.23`	`Noodleman`	`$107 != no money`
`17:46.29`	`bzdoug`	`huh`
`17:46.34`	`bzdoug`	`no credit card`
`17:46.36`	`bzdoug`	`:P`
`17:46.38`	`Patlabor221`	`birthday cash`
`17:46.46`	`Noodleman`	`you have no excuse, my friend`
`17:46.50`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`17:47.03`	`Noodleman`	`i've gota do taxes today`
`17:47.09`	`bzdoug`	`lol`
`17:47.59`	`bzdoug`	`You lost me here, if satellites don't use light "ie electromagentic radiation", then what do they use? Hamsters?`
`17:48.35`	`bzdoug`	`Well, obviously not. Satellites are way up in the air, and hamsters can't fly. Duh`
`17:49.10`	`Patlabor221`	`cheese particles`
`17:49.22`	`bzdoug`	`they fly?`
`17:49.47`	`Patlabor221`	`all thinks fly when pushed hard enouhg`
`17:49.59`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`17:50.04`	`bzdoug`	`even bricks`
`17:50.16`	`Patlabor221`	`even dougs`
`17:50.30`	`bzdoug`	`"With enough thrust even bricks fly"`
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`18:03.08`	`Noodleman`	`http://www.2600.com/news/view/article/1531`
`18:03.11`	`Noodleman`	`lolol`
`18:06.31`	`bzdoug`	`lol`
`18:14.39`	`Patlabor221`	`WOW`
`18:15.06`	`bzdoug`	`\/\/0\/\/`
`18:15.13`	`Patlabor221`	`neo-genesis`
`18:15.18`	`Patlabor221`	`on the bz help forum`
`18:15.22`	`Noodleman`	`~rsup`
`18:15.23`	`bzdoug`	`...`
`18:15.24`	`Patlabor221`	`wow is all I have to say`
`18:15.26`	`Noodleman`	`~rsud`
`18:15.26`		`fuhg hc qbht`
`18:15.42`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`18:21.07`	`Noodleman`	`~rot13 fuhg hc qbht`
`18:21.07`		`shut up doug`
`18:21.15`	`Noodleman`	`:-)`
`18:21.24`	`bzdoug`	`:)`
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`18:42.51`	`Patlabor221`	`dude, get a lady to help you with that.`
`18:43.20`	`captain_proton`	`haha`
`18:44.22`	`Patlabor221`	`how goes it cap?`
`18:44.55`	`captain_proton`	`okay i guess`
`18:45.00`	`captain_proton`	`slept through my first two classes`
`18:45.16`	`Patlabor221`	`I used to do that when I was in college`
`18:45.24`	`Patlabor221`	`but I did it in the library :)`
`18:50.01`	`Jormungandr`	`work is excessively annoying today.`
`18:50.29`	`bzdoug`	`hmm?`
`18:50.43`	`Jormungandr`	`work for 4 with only 2 here.`
`18:50.44`	`Jormungandr`	`:(`
`18:50.46`	`bzdoug`	`hmm? hmm? hmm? hmm?`
`18:50.51`	`bzdoug`	`lol`
`18:51.17`	`Jormungandr`	`and not-so-bright customers.`
`18:51.28`	`bzdoug`	`lol`
`18:54.09`	`Patlabor221`	`there are bright cusomters?`
`19:00.57`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`how do i go online with Linux`
`19:01.03`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`ore were can i get to options ..`
`19:01.13`	`Patlabor221`	`depends on how you go online`
`19:01.20`	`Patlabor221`	`do you mean a ppp dialup?`
`19:01.28`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`jep`
`19:01.42`	`Patlabor221`	`there are some ppp setup things`
`19:01.49`	`Patlabor221`	`but I have never used them`
`19:01.54`	`Patlabor221`	`I hear its "fun"`
`19:02.09`	`bzdoug`	`#redhat`
`19:02.25`	`Patlabor221`	`is he using redhat?`
`19:02.30`	`bzdoug`	`yup`
`19:02.33`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`got double boot`
`19:02.41`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`dunno how to use linux thow`
`19:02.44`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`never used ut`
`19:02.47`	`Patlabor221`	`then there should be a gPPP thing in X`
`19:02.47`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`it`
`19:03.11`	`bzdoug`	`but if your using a win modem, it problebly aint gonna work`
`19:03.15`	`bzdoug`	`they are diferent`
`19:03.18`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`nooo`
`19:03.21`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`windows sucks`
`19:03.29`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`aaah i mean modem`
`19:03.33`	`bzdoug`	`develement platform of choice`
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`19:05.25`	`sn0w_m0nkey`	`mornin`
`19:05.31`	`bzdoug`	`lo`
`19:05.43`	`sn0w_m0nkey`	`heh`
`19:06.44`	`Patlabor221`	`doug that's not nesisarly true`
`19:06.53`	`Patlabor221`	`there are drives for some software modem`
`19:07.10`	`bzdoug`	`must be new then`
`19:07.17`	`bzdoug`	`ask in #redhat..`
`19:08.17`	`Patlabor221`	`did you install PPP support?`
`19:11.57`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`?`
`19:11.57`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`me?`
`19:14.47`	`bzdoug`	`yep`
`19:15.19`	`Secret_Hamster`	`[TeA\|TrEE]: if you are connected via a lan then you don't need PPP. just make a lan connection`
`19:15.28`	`Jormungandr`	`winmodems were a good concept, but poorly implemented.`
`19:15.50`	`Noodleman`	`very much so`
`19:15.54`	`bzdoug`	`heh`
`19:16.05`	`Noodleman`	`they are practically unusable where i live`
`19:16.27`	`Noodleman`	`speed of 19k or lots of drops, your choice :-)`
`19:16.33`	`bzdoug`	`lol`
`19:17.27`	`Noodleman`	`is that a bot that does that, or is cap monitoring when to tell doug to shut up?`
`19:17.46`	`bzdoug`	`bot`
`19:18.04`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`19:18.44`	`Jormungandr`	`3ish hours to go, then I am off for 3 daysl.`
`19:18.46`	`Jormungandr`	`days even`
`19:18.53`	`Noodleman`	`kewl`
`19:19.01`	`Jormungandr`	`I need the break`
`19:19.12`	`Jormungandr`	`4 10s is cool, but it does wear on you a bit.`
`19:19.42`	`Noodleman`	`jormungandr: i wonder if you can help me here`
`19:19.52`	`Jormungandr`	`maybe :)`
`19:20.04`	`Noodleman`	`on s.b.o the online players page is empty`
`19:20.14`	`Jormungandr`	`hrm`
`19:20.23`	`Noodleman`	`there is a cron job that is supposed to run ever minute to gather stats`
`19:20.29`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`19:20.41`	`Jormungandr`	`do you have a copy of the old cron stuff?`
`19:20.43`	`Noodleman`	`the page is empty when the stats are over 5 minutes old`
`19:20.58`	`Noodleman`	`i can run the job from the commandline just fine`
`19:21.05`	`Jormungandr`	`won't run from cron?`
`19:21.06`	`Noodleman`	`i do have the cron script`
`19:21.12`	`Noodleman`	`it doesn't seem to`
`19:21.25`	`Jormungandr`	`make sure you are using full path the the script in cron?`
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`19:21.35`	`Noodleman`	`yup`
`19:21.49`	`Jormungandr`	`does it give any errors in cron logs?`
`19:21.50`	`Noodleman`	`/1 * * * /var/www/html/stats.bzflag.org/cron/bzflag.database.php`
`19:22.09`	`Noodleman`	`didn't think of that :-P`
`19:22.18`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`19:23.25`	`Noodleman`	`it doesn't even show up in the cron logs`
`19:23.51`	`Jormungandr`	`also.. make sure that the .php has full path to php in the #!/ first line.`
`19:24.18`	`Jormungandr`	`it should definitely show in the cron log`
`19:24.25`	`Jormungandr`	`is anything showing in the cron log?`
`19:24.38`	`Noodleman`	`it does`
`19:24.48`	`Noodleman`	`yes, my other cronjobs are`
`19:25.11`	`Jormungandr`	`hm.`
`19:25.33`	`Jormungandr`	`what are the perms on /var/www/html/stats..../cron/ ?`
`19:26.09`	`Noodleman`	`drwxrwxr-x 2 jzaun s.b.o 4096 Feb 18 21:03 .`
`19:26.25`	`Noodleman`	`-rwxr-xr-x 1 jzaun jzaun 1117 Feb 18 21:03 bzflag.database.php`
`19:26.48`	`Noodleman`	`but cron runs as root, doesn't it?`
`19:26.53`	`Jormungandr`	`yes`
`19:27.04`	`Jormungandr`	`still need dir to be +x even as root.`
`19:27.24`	`Jormungandr`	`is this root's crontab?`
`19:27.27`	`Noodleman`	`yes`
`19:27.28`	`Jormungandr`	`or user's crontab?`
`19:27.34`	`Noodleman`	`root's`
`19:27.44`	`Jormungandr`	`when you try to run it by hand, are you running it as root or user?`
`19:27.55`	`Noodleman`	`[root@deneb root]# whoami`
`19:28.00`	`Noodleman`	`root`
`19:28.03`	`Noodleman`	`[root@deneb root]# crontab -l`
`19:28.04`	`Jormungandr`	`okay.`
`19:28.11`	`Noodleman`	`/5 * * * /usr/local/bin/update_graph.sh &> /dev/null`
`19:28.16`	`Noodleman`	`/5 * * * mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg --logging /var/www/html/mrtg/mrtg.log &> /dev/null`
`19:28.22`	`Noodleman`	`/1 * * * /var/www/html/stats.bzflag.org/cron/bzflag.database.php`
`19:29.02`	`Jormungandr`	`put a >/var/log/test.log 2>&1 after the line and see if it logs what is going wrong in test.log`
`19:29.22`	`Noodleman`	`after the last job?`
`19:29.26`	`Jormungandr`	`yes`
`19:29.36`	`Jormungandr`	`>/var/log/test.log 2>&1`
`19:29.45`	`Noodleman`	`done`
`19:29.55`	`Jormungandr`	`now just wait a minute :)`
`19:29.59`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`19:30.04`	`Jormungandr`	`and see if there is anyhting in /var/log/test.log`
`19:30.34`	`Noodleman`	`two newlines`
`19:30.37`	`Jormungandr`	`cat`
`19:30.51`	`Noodleman`	`[root@deneb root]# cat /var/log/test.log`
`19:31.03`	`Noodleman`	`it makes two newlines`
`19:31.22`	`Noodleman`	`that what the script does when i run it at the command line`
`19:31.22`	`Jormungandr`	`so, it's acting like it's doing it... and giving no error output`
`19:31.42`	`Noodleman`	`w00t, now there's the online players list :-/`
`19:31.45`	`Noodleman`	`weird`
`19:31.55`	`Jormungandr`	`so it's working now?`
`19:32.01`	`Noodleman`	`i guess :-)`
`19:32.19`	`Jormungandr`	`cool. I'd keep it logging. if it fails, you should see something.`
`19:32.44`	`Noodleman`	`thx`
`19:32.46`	`Jormungandr`	`it'll overwrite the log each time it runs.`
`19:32.48`	`Cell`	`(false=>true) = true ,but, (true=>false)=flase ?`
`19:32.49`	`Jormungandr`	`so it won't grow.`
`19:32.55`	`Noodleman`	`yeah`
`19:33.00`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`19:33.09`	`Cell`	`why?`
`19:33.39`	`Jormungandr`	`is flase like flan, but in a puffy pastry? ;)`
`19:33.50`	`Cell`	`close`
`19:33.52`	`Cell`	`yes`
`19:34.07`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`19:34.54`	`Cell`	`ups wron channel`
`19:34.56`	`Jormungandr`	`cell, if I understood the symbols, I'd probably be able to figure out the logic.`
`19:35.08`	`Jormungandr`	`<--- not a coder.`
`19:35.47`	`Cell`	`=> is equivalent`
`19:35.52`	`Jormungandr`	`ah`
`19:35.56`	`Cell`	`ups, no, wrong, forget it`
`19:36.13`	`Cell`	`its an implication`
`19:36.45`	`Cell`	`If the street is wet => it has rained`
`19:37.00`	`Cell`	`true or wrong?`
`19:37.08`	`Jormungandr`	`so if false implies true, then true but if true inplies false then false`
`19:37.14`	`Jormungandr`	`that makes sense to me.`
`19:37.34`	`Cell`	`really?`
`19:37.35`	`Jormungandr`	`in a twisted sort of way, mind you.`
`19:38.53`	`Cell`	`question: the ball is round? true or false?`
`19:39.13`	`Jormungandr`	`you'd have to see the ball.`
`19:39.27`	`Jormungandr`	`some balls are sorta flattened in the middle :)`
`19:39.36`	`Cell`	`question:1 is samller than 2 ? true or false?`
`19:39.53`	`Jormungandr`	`1 is less than 2`
`19:40.12`	`Cell`	`question:this senntense is true. true or false?`
`19:40.15`	`Jormungandr`	`smaller is an ambiguous cmparison`
`19:40.44`	`Jormungandr`	`all the questions have dependencies.`
`19:41.04`	`Jormungandr`	`they imply truth, but could be false.`
`19:41.14`	`Cell`	`hmm, yes`
`19:41.45`	`Cell`	`depens on the context`
`19:41.48`	`Jormungandr`	`nod`
`19:42.53`	`Cell`	`true^true=>false<=>true true or false?`
`19:43.05`	`bzdoug`	`maybe`
`19:43.08`	`Jormungandr`	`don't hurt my brain!`
`19:43.09`	`Jormungandr`	`;)`
`19:43.27`	`Jormungandr`	`symbols again`
`19:43.30`	`Jormungandr`	`afk for a few.`
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`19:59.27`	`bzdoug`	`~country .hr`
`19:59.28`		`rumour has it, country .hr is hrvatska`
`19:59.38`	`bzdoug`	`hmm`
`19:59.52`	`bzdoug`	`~dict hrvatska`
`19:59.52`	`arathorn`	`yes hr is hrvatska:))`
`19:59.55`	`arathorn`	`or croatia`
`20:00.03`	`bzdoug`	`aaah`
`20:00.16`	`bzdoug`	`cool`
`20:00.51`	`arathorn`	`ibot is smart bot:))`
`20:00.52`		`arathorn: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface.`
`20:01.02`	`bzdoug`	`lol`
`20:01.09`	`arathorn`	`lol`
`20:01.20`	`bzdoug`	`~is a smart bot is <reply> your wrong...`
`20:01.32`	`bzdoug`	`ibot is a smart bot`
`20:01.33`		`bzdoug: bugger all, i dunno`
`20:01.42`	`bzdoug`	`hmm`
`20:01.46`	`bzdoug`	`hmm`
`20:02.44`	`arathorn`	`ibot: seen almogaver?`
`20:02.44`		`arathorn: i haven't seen 'almogaver'`
`20:02.56`	`bzdoug`	`~seen god`
`20:02.57`		`i haven't seen 'god', bzdoug`
`20:02.59`	`arathorn`	`thx`
`20:03.03`	`bzdoug`	`~seen santa`
`20:03.03`		`santa <~jupiter@12-253-125-169.client.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 62d 17h 23m 2s ago, saying: 'file: yeah, but i did it fedex, so it won't show up until april'.`
`20:03.07`	`bzdoug`	`ooh`
`20:03.11`	`bzdoug`	`LOL`
`20:04.00`	`arathorn`	`~seen T-34`
`20:04.01`		`arathorn: i haven't seen 't-34'`
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`20:04.21`	`arathorn`	`~seen riseman`
`20:04.21`		`i haven't seen 'riseman', arathorn`
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`20:29.33`	`rdmiller3`	`Hi!`
`20:29.42`	`bzdoug`	`nope sorry, its all gone`
`20:30.31`	`rdmiller3`	`:emotes?`
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`20:30.39`	`*** part/#bzflag Cell (~Cell@pD9E502B7.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`20:30.41`	`bzdoug`	`:O`
`20:31.00`	`bzdoug`	`~who let the dogs out`
`20:31.44`	`rdmiller3`	`BARK! ...er, I mean, My name is Rick and I'm a BZFlagaholic.`
`20:32.01`	`bzdoug`	`ouch`
`20:32.07`	`bzdoug`	`you must be looking for help`
`20:32.49`	`cowboy_neal`	`cool`
`20:32.55`	`cowboy_neal`	`shut ignores me now`
`20:32.57`	`rdmiller3`	`Technical help, really. After being addicted to gameplay, I finally dug into the format of the world files.`
`20:33.09`	`cowboy_neal`	`~bzedit`
`20:33.10`		`rumour has it, bzedit is http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/tarballs/bzedit-2.1.tar.gz on linux http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit for windows`
`20:33.18`	`cowboy_neal`	`rdmiller3: yea? :)`
`20:33.20`	`rdmiller3`	`Bzedit crashed on my win box`
`20:33.30`	`cowboy_neal`	`got the lastest version?`
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`20:34.16`	`rdmiller3`	`Yeah, right off the guy's web site. I wasn't too dissappointed after getting a look at the world files though. I have more power to make stuff by generating the world file from a Perl script.`
`20:34.19`	`cowboy_neal`	`one version crashed alot`
`20:34.32`	`cowboy_neal`	`rdmiller3: THATS the way!`
`20:34.34`	`cowboy_neal`	`:)`
`20:34.36`	`rdmiller3`	`I couldn't get the latest version to even run after install...`
`20:34.44`	`cowboy_neal`	`cowboy_neal: what OS?`
`20:35.04`	`cowboy_neal`	`http://heck.no-ip.com/jim/ some perl scripts`
`20:35.05`	`rdmiller3`	`Win98.`
`20:35.11`	`cowboy_neal`	`ah`
`20:35.18`	`cowboy_neal`	`dunno why`
`20:35.26`	`rdmiller3`	`Oh, sure... NOW ya tell me about the scripts. Oh well. I like mine.`
`20:35.28`	`cowboy_neal`	`I ran bzedit on my 98`
`20:35.36`	`cowboy_neal`	`rdmiller3: :) what are yours?`
`20:35.40`	`cowboy_neal`	`share? :P`
`20:36.12`	`cowboy_neal`	`would you happen to have a script that can rotate objects upright? like text?`
`20:36.26`	`rdmiller3`	`My win98 install is probably screwed up. I'm not ready to share the scripts yet because they implement a couple tricks I haven't seen in any worlds.`
`20:36.52`	`rdmiller3`	`Nothing fancy like that yet.`
`20:36.53`	`cowboy_neal`	`heh`
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`20:37.09`	`anaconda`	`hi`
`20:37.10`	`rdmiller3`	`I just started writing the silly thing yesterday morning.`
`20:37.20`	`anaconda`	`chestal, bist du da?`
`20:37.50`	`rdmiller3`	`One trick is to generate an "autoreflection" wall. Bounces ricochets directly back at the shooter.`
`20:37.56`	`cowboy_neal`	`~x de en bist du da`
`20:38.05`	`cowboy_neal`	`rdmiller3: ooh, thats neat`
`20:38.12`	`rdmiller3`	`(As long as the angle of incidence isn't too shallow.)`
`20:38.13`	`cowboy_neal`	`rdmiller3: how does it work?`
`20:38.24`	`cowboy_neal`	`I think I know how..`
`20:38.33`	`cowboy_neal`	`lots of angles?`
`20:38.38`	`rdmiller3`	`Works like the reflectors on your bicycle. Right angles, little ones.`
`20:38.47`	`cowboy_neal`	`cool`
`20:38.47`	`Chestal`	`ana: ja`
`20:39.08`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: weisst du, was nervt (unter anderem...;-)?`
`20:39.30`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: natürlich nicht;-)`
`20:39.53`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: also, das problem liegt bei unfairen teams`
`20:40.12`	`Chestal`	`anaconda: jo, das ist manchmal recht �bel`
`20:40.24`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: das heisst, wenn eine Mannschaft speziell gut - und die andere Mannschaft recht schlecht ist;-)`
`20:40.29`	`Chestal`	`anaconda: ich versuche immer ein wenig darauf zu achten, dass es halbwegs ausgeglichen ist`
`20:40.35`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: ich weiss!`
`20:40.51`	`Chestal`	`anaconda: unausgeglichen ist es, wenn im scoreboard erst alle roten, dann alle gr�nenkommen :-)`
`20:41.05`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: könnte man das nicht vielleicht "automatisieren"?`
`20:41.21`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: ich meine, eine automatische`
`20:41.35`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: bewertung einer mannschaft`
`20:41.36`	`Chestal`	`anaconda: naja, schwierig. In einer n�chsten Version wird es sowas wie ne automatische Teamzuweisung geben, die wird aber erstmal nur die Anzahl balancieren`
`20:41.45`	`Chestal`	`das Problem ist die Bewertung der Spieler`
`20:41.53`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: schon ein fortschritt, sehr gut;-)`
`20:42.14`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: weshalb? aus den individuellen score-punkte`
`20:42.19`	`Chestal`	`wenn wir irgendwann mal ne Spielerdatenbank haben mit regiustrierung, dann k�nnte man evtl. was machen`
`20:42.35`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: und den teampunkten sollte sich doch eine berechnuzng finden`
`20:42.36`	`Chestal`	`dann muesste man aber Spieelr waehrend desSpiels verschieben`
`20:42.42`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: yep`
`20:42.46`	`anaconda`	`genau`
`20:42.46`	`Chestal`	`ich dachte jetzt eher an eine Auswahl beim joinen`
`20:42.56`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: aha,`
`20:43.05`	`Chestal`	`anaconda: das dynamisch zu machen, ist auch denkbar, aber wesentlcih schwieriger`
`20:43.06`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: ja, das ist schwierig`
`20:43.32`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: ja, ich denke, dass das nicht einfach ist`
`20:43.33`	`Chestal`	`also da muesste mehr ge�ndert werden udn man m��te auch �berlegen, wann das passierensoll und wie der SPieler das mitkriegt`
`20:44.18`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: ja...`
`20:44.27`	`rdmiller3`	`cowboy_neal(yeah, right): The other trick is a wall made up of randomly-rotated boxes, so you can't predict where the ricochet will go.`
`20:44.38`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: eine Nachricht an beide spieler, die ausgetauscht werden sollten`
`20:44.48`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: und dann: booom;-)))`
`20:44.53`	`cowboy_neal`	`rdmiller3: ah`
`20:45.24`	`rdmiller3`	`That sort of thing would be tedious unless you script it.`
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`20:45.43`	`cowboy_neal`	`hehe`
`20:46.05`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: Zeitpunkt: nach einer gewissen Zeit, an dem sich prinzipiell an den scores nicht geändert hat`
`20:46.26`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: aber ich weiss, das ist nicht so einfach;-(`
`20:46.34`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: war nur eine Idee;-)`
`20:46.51`	`Chestal`	`anaconda: jo, erstmal muss G2 fertig werden, dann k�nen soclhe Sachen angedacht werden f�r die n�chste, inkompatible Version`
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`20:47.25`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: ok, merci für's zuhören und gute Nacht;-)`
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`20:47.36`	`Chestal`	`anaconda: na, gerade noch nicht :-)`
`20:47.45`	`cowboy_neal`	`stupid laptop keyboards`
`20:47.51`	`anaconda`	`Chestal: ups, noch am arbeiten?;-)`
`20:48.46`	`KG4YMG`	`done wacking your blue ball?`
`20:49.12`	`KG4YMG`	`ah`
`20:49.26`	`Rat`	`anyone here have a good bot patch?`
`20:49.34`	`KG4YMG`	`bot patch?`
`20:49.39`	`KG4YMG`	`Chestal had a good one`
`20:49.57`	`rdmiller3`	`For -solo mode?`
`20:50.01`	`Rat`	`ya`
`20:50.07`	`gonk{work}`	`KG4YMG: raquet ball is the second best game in the world`
`20:50.08`	`KG4YMG`	`oh`
`20:50.15`	`KG4YMG`	`gonk{work}: whats the 1st?`
`20:50.22`	`gonk{work}`	`er,`
`20:50.24`	`KG4YMG`	`rdmiller3: not -solo though..`
`20:50.30`	`KG4YMG`	`ah`
`20:50.38`	`KG4YMG`	`its stand alone..`
`20:51.04`	`rdmiller3`	`Stand-alone? No server?`
`20:51.10`	`KG4YMG`	`er`
`20:51.16`	`KG4YMG`	`its not -solo`
`20:51.24`	`KG4YMG`	`so you run it from the command prompt`
`20:51.32`	`KG4YMG`	`with the server you want and color`
`20:51.34`	`KG4YMG`	`etc`
`20:51.45`	`KG4YMG`	`and it connects and acts like a normal player`
`20:51.53`	`rdmiller3`	`OOOOohhh.`
`20:52.15`	`rdmiller3`	`"Bot". Got it.`
`20:52.20`	`KG4YMG`	`:)`
`20:52.45`	`Rat`	`does anyone have a patch for a good bot`
`20:52.58`	`KG4YMG`	`not mr`
`20:53.00`	`KG4YMG`	`me*`
`20:53.02`	`rdmiller3`	`Not I (obviously).`
`20:53.07`	`KG4YMG`	`Chestal has some code...`
`20:53.09`	`KG4YMG`	`not a patch`
`20:53.25`	`Rat`	`that's fine`
`20:53.45`	`Rat`	`I can compile the game myself`
`20:53.56`	`rdmiller3`	`I'd think you wouldn't want to patch bzflag... would you? I'd start from the protocol and work backward to the AI.`
`20:54.06`	`KG4YMG`	`lol`
`20:54.42`	`rdmiller3`	`Since you don't want to render graphics, you just want to know where things are, code-wise.`
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`21:28.12`	`ak\|ra`	`re`
`21:28.30`	`Noodleman`	`lo, ak\|ra`
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`21:50.44`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ`
`21:50.57`	`KG4YMG`	`lo TimRiker`
`21:52.42`	`TimRiker`	`k gay? hmm.`
`21:53.22`	`captain_proton`	`?`
`21:53.36`	`KG4YMG`	`lol`
`21:53.42`	`KG4YMG`	`you neednd tell calico`
`21:53.51`	`KG4YMG`	`er captain_proton`
`21:54.22`	`KG4YMG`	`;)`
`21:54.33`	`KG4YMG`	`I suppose I could change it for 15 bucks`
`21:55.33`	`KG4YMG`	`resocks? like put your socks back on?`
`21:55.39`	`captain_proton`	`uhhuh`
`21:55.43`	`KG4YMG`	`hmm`
`21:55.44`	`Patlabor221`	`I think that's exactly what it is`
`21:55.47`	`KG4YMG`	`never heard it like that`
`21:55.56`	`KG4YMG`	`saves on letters`
`21:56.09`	`Patlabor221`	`just like repant`
`21:56.27`	`KG4YMG`	`recover`
`21:56.31`	`KG4YMG`	`;)`
`22:00.11`	`Patlabor221`	`ghaaaayyyyyy`
`22:13.46`	`*** join/#bzflag Cell (~Cell@pD9E502B7.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`22:17.20`	`Cell`	`thongs, lol`
`22:17.55`	`Noodleman`	`not my idea :-P`
`22:18.11`	`Noodleman`	`that was tim's twisted idea :-D`
`22:18.17`	`Cell`	`but its your pic`
`22:18.22`	`Noodleman`	`yeah`
`22:18.40`	`Patlabor221`	`need boxers too`
`22:18.53`	`Noodleman`	`yes we do`
`22:19.06`	`Noodleman`	`i actually got the tank from here:`
`22:19.09`	`Noodleman`	`http://www.faceintel.com/intelvhamidi.htm`
`22:19.39`	`Cell`	`oh, kewl`
`22:21.35`	`Noodleman`	`it doesn't have a copyright, which is even kewler`
`22:21.54`	`Cell`	`you asked?`
`22:22.15`	`Noodleman`	`it says right underneath the image`
`22:22.20`	`Cell`	`ah`
`22:24.30`	`Patlabor221`	`ha he could do a lunchbox too`
`22:25.04`	`Noodleman`	`:-)`
`22:27.36`	`Patlabor221`	`he shoulda at least done the mousepad`
`22:28.31`	`Cell`	`what was the Battle of Intel and Ken Hamidi about?`
`22:28.49`	`Noodleman`	`i'm not sure, i didn't read that page`
`22:28.58`	`Noodleman`	`but the rest of the site is very interesting`
`22:29.14`	`Noodleman`	`if 1% of it was true, i'd never buy intel stuff again`
`22:29.33`	`Cell`	`hmm, i read, its interesting`
`22:47.16`	`Cell`	`dont like the�t intel fires older(47 dont thing thats old) employees, why is that?`
`22:47.44`	`Patlabor221`	`cus they are ruled by an evil overlord`
`22:47.55`	`Patlabor221`	`and her minons of terror`
`22:49.35`	`Cell`	`hm, that dont makes starting work very tasty`
`22:51.45`	`Patlabor221`	`so don't work there`
`22:51.47`	`Cell`	`i wonder how the workload distribution controlled, can you say that you have too much work, if its true,`
`22:51.54`	`Patlabor221`	`you'd have to move to arizona too`
`22:53.15`	`Cell`	`no germany is fine`
`22:55.11`	`Patlabor221`	`what does germany got that arizona dosn't`
`22:55.18`	`Patlabor221`	`it even has germans`
`22:55.29`	`guodzb`	`frankfurt`
`22:55.33`	`Patlabor221`	`and german shepards`
`22:55.34`	`Cell`	`oh, a better social system`
`22:55.36`	`Patlabor221`	`and hamburfers`
`22:55.38`	`Patlabor221`	`and beer`
`22:55.42`	`Patlabor221`	`how better?`
`22:55.51`	`guodzb`	`everybody speaks german`
`22:55.53`	`guodzb`	`:P`
`22:55.56`	`Cell`	`who cares for you if you have no job?`
`22:56.06`	`Patlabor221`	`welfare!!!!!`
`22:56.16`	`Patlabor221`	`and you should have a job, or your a slacker!!`
`22:56.28`	`Patlabor221`	`TANSTAFL`
`22:56.53`	`Cell`	`really, so 4 Million ppl in germany are slckers, dont believe that`
`22:57.02`	`Patlabor221`	`perhaps`
`22:57.13`	`Patlabor221`	`depends on why they arn't working`
`22:57.21`	`Patlabor221`	`if they are trying but can't find any, then no.`
`22:57.34`	`Patlabor221`	`if they just thing the world owes them a living, yes`
`22:57.35`	`Jormungandr`	`oof... long day today.`
`22:57.36`	`Cell`	`because there is not enough work`
`22:57.52`	`Patlabor221`	`then they need to stop having babbies`
`22:57.58`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`22:58.00`	`Cell`	`?`
`22:58.05`	`Patlabor221`	`less people`
`22:58.31`	`Patlabor221`	`reemmer if your 1 in a million, there are now 6000 of you.`
`22:58.31`	`Cell`	`dont understand the relation`
`22:58.44`	`Patlabor221`	`you have more jobs then people`
`22:58.48`	`Patlabor221`	`so you ether need more jobs`
`22:58.50`	`Patlabor221`	`or less people`
`22:59.00`	`Patlabor221`	`sorry you have more people then jobs`
`22:59.11`	`Patlabor221`	`less people = less babys`
`22:59.46`	`Patlabor221`	`6 bil is a lot`
`23:00.32`	`Cell`	`and who pays the pensions`
`23:00.43`	`Patlabor221`	`here?`
`23:00.49`	`Patlabor221`	`or when there are less people`
`23:00.54`	`Cell`	`second`
`23:01.02`	`Patlabor221`	`same as it is now`
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`23:01.30`	`Patlabor221`	`tho with automation I don't think you can have all of your population working at the same time`
`23:01.35`	`Patlabor221`	`if you had less people`
`23:01.41`	`Patlabor221`	`there would be less demand for somethings`
`23:01.49`	`Patlabor221`	`then less people would be needed to work`
`23:02.20`	`Cell`	`so it would scale percentually and the endresult would be the same`
`23:03.27`	`Patlabor221`	`so unless you can come up with some new industries that need lots of people`
`23:03.33`	`Patlabor221`	`well I dont' think on the current scale`
`23:03.39`	`Patlabor221`	`there are a number of slackers in the world`
`23:03.46`	`Patlabor221`	`it could be optimised`
`23:03.59`	`Patlabor221`	`but humans are still stuck thinking of the small picure`
`23:04.04`	`Patlabor221`	`never the big one`
`23:04.30`	`Patlabor221`	`we still act in groups never as a whole`
`23:04.49`	`Patlabor221`	`I think the concept of a "country" as a binding unit is kinda silly`
`23:05.02`	`Patlabor221`	`realy it's just an arbirary line on a map`
`23:05.35`	`Patlabor221`	`it can be a good thing for personal history, and the like, but it should not be a basis for all the stupid things people do in it's name`
`23:06.45`	`Patlabor221`	`given current technology I could be over there where you are in less then 8 hours. only reason it takes long, and people dont' move around more now is due to arbitary restraints.`
`23:06.58`	`Cell`	`i thing the psychical pressure at work is incresing while the physical pressure gets down, thats one reason to be a slackers`
`23:07.12`	`Patlabor221`	`sometimes for fair reason, since there are other humans who chose to behave like angry children.`
`23:07.58`	`Patlabor221`	`I think slackers were children who were coddled to much by there parents, and were never brought up to know that they should contribute`
`23:08.03`	`Patlabor221`	`and not just get a free ride`
`23:08.27`	`Patlabor221`	`There are people who are slackers cus they tried onece and were broken, I think that's difrent`
`23:08.31`	`Patlabor221`	`they can be cured.`
`23:09.13`	`Cell`	`admit`
`23:09.27`	`Patlabor221`	`but the 25 year old kid, still living at home, not going to school, siting on the internet in his parents basement, is indicitive of a larger problem.`
`23:09.29`	`Cell`	`ups, agree`
`23:09.53`	`Cell`	`not going to school???`
`23:09.56`	`Patlabor221`	`those have a deep seated beife that it will "all just work out"`
`23:10.00`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`23:10.07`	`Patlabor221`	`cus they failed out.`
`23:10.29`	`Patlabor221`	`there are a number of people like that`
`23:10.38`	`Patlabor221`	`they didn't care enough to even try`
`23:11.02`	`Cell`	`what should they try?`
`23:11.06`	`Patlabor221`	`anything`
`23:11.17`	`Patlabor221`	`try to be more then a bump on a log`
`23:11.18`	`Cell`	`that is`
`23:11.32`	`Patlabor221`	`try to do something on there own`
`23:13.03`	`Cell`	`like making a game?`
`23:13.14`	`Cell`	`;)`
`23:14.00`	`Patlabor221`	`it's at least somehting yes`
`23:14.52`	`Patlabor221`	`you at least have some ambition to do something, sometimes I think it's misdirected :) but at least it's some.`
`23:15.23`	`Cell`	`the problem is i was watching a film about fishes in the depp sea, and there are some fishes that eat other within milliseconds, so the question arises if it is important to do something, lol?`
`23:16.52`	`Cell`	`because it seems to be all done already`
`23:17.11`	`Cell`	`or it does all itself`
`23:19.02`	`Cell`	`i mean in my eys there is no progress, it would not matter if you were born as an indian in 1700 or now, your life as indian still could be much more better`
`23:19.37`	`Cell`	`the stuff we produce does not change anything`
`23:20.09`	`Patlabor221`	`does not change anything in what sense`
`23:20.18`	`Patlabor221`	`you can't realy compare it to animals`
`23:20.30`	`Patlabor221`	`since realy in your dialy life, you don't have to worry about not eating`
`23:20.30`	`Cell`	`in the sense of joy of life`
`23:20.54`	`Patlabor221`	`joy is a very person oriented thing`
`23:21.06`	`Cell`	`the worry can meke life more joy because than times without worry are more pleasure`
`23:21.29`	`Patlabor221`	`but what is good for you may not be good for someone else`
`23:21.41`	`Patlabor221`	`so I don't know if you can apply that to a planiary level`
`23:23.13`	`Hamster_afk`	`wow is Cell actaully making sense or is he still spewing bull and your just playing along?`
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`23:24.06`	`Cell`	`Hamster_afk:both`
`23:25.03`	`Patlabor221`	`well we never know`
`23:25.14`	`Patlabor221`	`so far he seems to ether be bi-polar`
`23:25.24`	`Patlabor221`	`or sometimes somone logs in on his acount`
`23:25.32`	`Patlabor221`	`he's been good for a week or so now`
`23:27.05`	`ak\|ra`	`re`
`23:27.11`	`Patlabor221`	`tho you never know when he could bust out the flood bots`
`23:27.57`	`Cell`	`no, i try to be more serious`
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`23:28.10`	`ak\|ra`	`Patlabor221: :)`
`23:28.43`	`Patlabor221`	`well probably that, and the fact that the flood bot thing was lame, and got the atention of the net admins`
`23:29.36`	`Cell`	`no captain_proton has banned the entire subnet, that is not good for me`
`23:30.32`	`Cell`	`since all my trojans a re on t-online victims`
`23:30.50`	`Cell`	`so i could not use tcp forwarding`
`23:31.09`	`Cell`	`;)`
`23:31.41`	`Cell`	`i scan all the ISP ip range for trojan ports`
`23:32.02`	`Cell`	`and there are really many ppl with trojans :)`
`23:32.17`	`Patlabor221`	`and the admins would have contacted your ISP for abuse`
`23:32.38`	`Cell`	`yes but i dont thing they would care`
`23:32.50`	`Cell`	`cause they want the money`
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`23:36.34`	`Patlabor221`	`actualy the would just ban your port from the irc IPs and still take your money :)`
`23:36.38`	`Patlabor221`	`seen it done before`
`23:37.15`	`Patlabor221`	`but those kinds of things, with bots and trojans, are just childish`
`23:37.41`	`Patlabor221`	`for those who think they need to prove someting, or compenstate for certan "lackings"`
`23:40.25`	`Cell`	`you know some ppl always have to do some bullshit to satisfy their soul`
`23:41.04`	`Patlabor221`	`if that's what they want to beilve then hey what ever they want, as long as it dosn't interfere with others`
`23:41.21`	`Chestal`	`but interfering with others is the main point`
`23:41.29`	`Patlabor221`	`yes, those are the greefers`
`23:41.35`	`Cell`	`yes thats it`
`23:41.39`	`Patlabor221`	`go play PVP everquest or something`
`23:41.42`	`Patlabor221`	`or go to effnet`
`23:41.47`	`Patlabor221`	`play with the script kiddies`
`23:41.57`	`*** join/#bzflag paul ([RxI9mnSn5@hibernia.jakma.org)`
`23:42.10`	`Patlabor221`	`and those people who have to do that should understand that the people they mess will will lose repect for them`
`23:42.12`	`Cell`	`i do, send them my version of love letter script`
`23:42.50`	`Patlabor221`	`then you would be "an ass" in my book`
`23:43.03`	`Patlabor221`	`and you shold know that many others will think of you as such`
`23:43.12`	`ak\|ra`	`:)`
`23:43.13`	`Chestal`	`is SQL slammer still alive?`
`23:43.20`	`ak\|ra`	`hot discussions in the evening`
`23:43.24`	`ak\|ra`	`ah, hy chest`
`23:43.25`	`Cell`	`yes but i enjoy that, sorry , lol`
`23:43.29`	`Patlabor221`	`and don't complain when people get pissed and ban you.`
`23:43.29`	`Chestal`	`ak\|ra: tag`
`23:43.56`	`Patlabor221`	`cell, if that is all you do for fun, then you do need to grow up, go out and have sex or something.`
`23:44.46`	`Cell`	`lups, lol`
`23:45.53`	`Cell`	`how does that work in detail, step by step. plz, :)?`
`23:46.13`	`Patlabor221`	`got to #hotlezbinaaction on dalnet`
`23:46.40`	`Patlabor221`	`or www.porn.com I'm sure they can help you, many instructional vidieos`
`23:46.53`	`Cell`	`what shall id do there`
`23:47.10`	`Patlabor221`	`they will show you.`
`23:47.24`	`Cell`	`no thats boring`
`23:47.31`	`Patlabor221`	`be sure to check out the section on animals, since you love them so much.`
`23:48.57`	`Cell`	`i respect them`
`23:49.32`	`Patlabor221`	`so do other people, just in the butt.`
`23:50.15`	`Cell`	`Patlabor221: you havent forgotten that this channel is g-rated? ;)`
`23:50.26`	`Patlabor221`	`only for you man`
`23:50.52`	`Noodleman`	`all irc channels are at least pg`
`23:51.14`	`Patlabor221`	`and I have not done anything that is not shown on broadcast television`
`23:51.41`	`Cell`	`broadcast tv?`
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`23:52.08`	`Cell`	`ah, got it`
`23:52.09`	`Patlabor221`	`sure`
`23:52.20`	`Patlabor221`	`your usualy the one that degraded to lame profanitys`
`23:52.32`	`Cell`	`i know`
`23:53.05`	`Patlabor221`	`and you know noone has any respect for you`
`23:53.16`	`Patlabor221`	`doug only talks to you cus he craves atention`
`23:53.23`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`23:53.23`	`Patlabor221`	`and I'm boored`
`23:53.58`	`Patlabor221`	`keeps my practice up with talking to bakas`
`23:54.04`	`Cell`	`cause i just read inthe bible: that only ppl with the mind of a children will accept the kindom of heaven`
`23:54.38`	`Cell`	`lol`
`23:54.38`	`Noodleman`	`not quite`
`23:54.44`	`Patlabor221`	`wow then that place must be full of idiots`
`23:54.54`	`Cell`	`lol^2`
`23:54.59`	`Patlabor221`	`and I think they meant it in a dirent way`
`23:55.12`	`Noodleman`	`except you be as little children, you shall not inherit the kingdom of heaven`
`23:55.26`	`Noodleman`	`it means you have to be trusting like children`
`23:55.28`	`ak\|ra`	`:)`
`23:55.32`	`Cell`	`ah`
`23:55.45`	`Patlabor221`	`well as allways that book is open to ineritaions`
`23:55.47`	`Patlabor221`	`and war`
`23:55.59`	`Patlabor221`	`why are childeren allways used as an example?`
`23:56.04`	`Patlabor221`	`why not like lemurs?`
`23:56.16`	`Patlabor221`	`they seem rather trusting`
`23:56.22`	`Cell`	`lol lim->00`
`23:56.24`	`Noodleman`	`becuase lemurs cause mischeif`
`23:56.31`	`Patlabor221`	`so do children`
`23:56.37`	`Noodleman`	`so do kids, but that's a different sroty :-)`
`23:56.52`	`Patlabor221`	`I think children are realy just reflections of there own parents, whit out the bagage of history.`
`23:57.07`	`Noodleman`	`that's right`
`23:57.14`	`Patlabor221`	`at least while they are learing, then they change`
`23:57.23`	`Patlabor221`	`as the world trys to beat them down`
`23:57.41`	`Cell`	`Patlabor221:plz stop, lol`
`23:57.54`	`Patlabor221`	`but these are all concepts that noone can prove so they are moot`
`23:58.04`	`Patlabor221`	`did you know moot can mean arguable?`
`23:58.09`	`Patlabor221`	`I find that funny`
`23:58.17`	`Cell`	`i too`
`23:58.51`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh he must have goten the blue ball thing taken care of then, good for him.`

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