| 00:04.27 | ak|ra | man, damn |
| 00:08.23 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_proton] by ChanServ |
| 00:11.18 | ak|ra | ok, i managed it with an extra make |
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| 00:19.00 | Patlabor221 | doug can't weigh more then 97 bs, just use the entire doug. |
| 00:19.28 | scanline | doug's just full of BS |
| 00:19.40 | Patlabor221 | zactly |
| 00:19.40 | scanline | so any part of him is pretty effective |
| 00:19.50 | Patlabor221 | but woudln't you want the most mass? |
| 00:20.12 | Patlabor221 | if you brak off a part, then woudln't it leak out |
| 00:20.19 | Patlabor221 | then you would have to call a hazmat team |
| 00:20.25 | scanline | truwe |
| 00:20.27 | scanline | err, true |
| 00:20.37 | bzgirl | poor doug |
| 00:20.49 | bzgirl | you guys always pick on him :) |
| 00:20.57 | captain_proton | bzgirl: there's a reason for that |
| 00:21.02 | bzgirl | what did he do? |
| 00:21.27 | Patlabor221 | he got is hazings the old fasoned way he EARNED it. |
| 00:22.05 | Patlabor221 | most of it is making stupid comments when people were trying to be serious about things he has no clue on |
| 00:22.08 | Patlabor221 | bot abbuse |
| 00:22.19 | Patlabor221 | masive off topicness |
| 00:22.28 | bzgirl | yeah... |
| 00:22.33 | captain_proton | inf+1 feature requests |
| 00:22.50 | Patlabor221 | not actulay doing anything. |
| 00:22.58 | Patlabor221 | and then there are the bad maps |
| 00:23.11 | bzgirl | i was just on spirial |
| 00:23.12 | Patlabor221 | overuse of the word "cool" |
| 00:23.26 | Patlabor221 | actualy I think spiral was his only decent one |
| 00:23.28 | captain_proton | as well as "kewl" and "slick" |
| 00:24.03 | bzgirl | :) |
| 00:24.15 | Patlabor221 | at least untill I hook up the "sign" ent. |
| 00:24.17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: good man |
| 00:24.48 | sussudio | Patlabor221: hah! i did two with pyramid-words |
| 00:24.59 | Patlabor221 | offta |
| 00:26.03 | Patlabor221 | ohh and I think the worst ones have been agreeing with hoda and cell |
| 00:26.34 | bzgirl | i stand corrected |
| 00:26.44 | bzgirl | you need to be tougher on doug :) |
| 00:27.23 | jpablo | dum de dum, Kasparov looses |
| 00:28.12 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 00:30.12 | Patlabor221 | I wish I had been here when he came backj |
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| 00:40.01 | MrApathyCream | bzbb down? |
| 00:40.35 | bzgirl | yeah |
| 00:44.30 | stibnite | doh |
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| 00:48.20 | fiberchunks | lo all |
| 00:49.13 | Patlabor221 | thar he is |
| 00:49.32 | fiberchunks | ah, Patlabor221 -- thank ghod you're here :) |
| 00:49.48 | Patlabor221 | bzbb is down |
| 00:50.06 | Patlabor221 | yeah sorry I was at lunvh before |
| 00:50.21 | fiberchunks | really? hrm, one second |
| 00:50.43 | fiberchunks | sure is, lemme restart the box, brb |
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| 00:52.11 | Patlabor221 | now you have GL issues? |
| 00:53.33 | MrApathyCream | db is down now :) bzbb |
| 00:53.48 | MrApathyCream | oops ok now |
| 00:53.50 | Patlabor221 | workin for me |
| 00:56.32 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: so you posted a diff file? :) |
| 00:57.14 | Patlabor221 | I did what? |
| 00:57.31 | Patlabor221 | still can't get it to linufy |
| 00:58.36 | sussudio | with most dalnet servers pointing to 255.255.255.255 there still seem to be about 30.000 people that managed to find their way in |
| 00:59.13 | fiberchunks_ | I restarted both the mysql and httpd processes -- how long, approx has it been down for? |
| 00:59.45 | sussudio | a day and a half? |
| 01:00.05 | fiberchunks_ | really? it was working for me yesterday |
| 01:00.08 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: bah, post it anyway |
| 01:00.24 | MrApathyCream | people will jump on it like crazed leppers, when it's on sf |
| 01:00.25 | fiberchunks_ | hrm...I'll have to dig through the logs and see if there's anything funky going on |
| 01:00.36 | fiberchunks_ | crazed lepers ;) |
| 01:00.47 | MrApathyCream | fiberchunks i noticed it down all day (about 15 hours for me) |
| 01:01.00 | Patlabor221 | well as soon as I can get it to linify, I'm going to put zero up as a new module on BZs CVS |
| 01:01.07 | fiberchunks_ | hrm -- that's odd, have to ask the woman if we had any power surges or the like |
| 01:02.30 | Patlabor221 | fiber what were your GL issues you had before? |
| 01:02.31 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: duko, promises to post: bet on time? |
| 01:03.10 | fiberchunks_ | oh yeah -- so here I am, trying to learn things about GL, and I compile a program that 'used' |
| 01:03.18 | fiberchunks_ | to work -- no work - just black screen |
| 01:03.50 | Patlabor221 | and nothing changed? |
| 01:03.52 | MrApathyCream | aint gl fun |
| 01:04.02 | fiberchunks_ | nothing |
| 01:04.08 | MrApathyCream | could be anything, transform, clip, no lite, erg |
| 01:04.13 | Patlabor221 | MAC: promices to post what? |
| 01:04.21 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: the busted map |
| 01:04.26 | Patlabor221 | computers don |
| 01:04.35 | Patlabor221 | 't just stop working, something had to chagne. |
| 01:04.35 | MrApathyCream | gl could really use a debug mode |
| 01:04.38 | fiberchunks_ | goddamit, what is going on? |
| 01:04.50 | sussudio | has anything changed with pyramid interaction in g1? |
| 01:05.03 | Patlabor221 | sususdio yes |
| 01:05.07 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 01:05.08 | Patlabor221 | they collide all the time now |
| 01:05.11 | Patlabor221 | bad idea |
| 01:05.18 | Patlabor221 | fiber just set the clear color |
| 01:05.21 | Patlabor221 | and nothing else |
| 01:05.21 | sussudio | well you can get rid of all the spiff maps then |
| 01:05.29 | Patlabor221 | you can get rid of a LOT of maps |
| 01:05.29 | sussudio | which may make it worth it |
| 01:05.32 | MrApathyCream | you can turn pyrs upside down |
| 01:05.46 | Patlabor221 | fiber, and then see if it at least sets your color |
| 01:05.51 | fiberchunks_ | nm, thought the server went down again |
| 01:06.12 | fiberchunks_ | hrm, of course now it's fine :( |
| 01:06.28 | fiberchunks_ | Patlabor221: here's the symptom I was experiencing today |
| 01:06.40 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: it will just inspire you to make material-able objects |
| 01:06.43 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 01:06.56 | Patlabor221 | MAC: yes that is one of my plans |
| 01:07.11 | Patlabor221 | if I can keep from having to do server crap |
| 01:07.28 | MrApathyCream | sorry no can do |
| 01:07.39 | fiberchunks_ | I compiled an app to draw a fargin line, using SDL to create the GL context... I compiled it, and it didn't draw the line (actually, it may have, but I noticed that my color3f was black, like the bg). Anyway, I changed the color3f to white, and recompiled / ran the proggie |
| 01:07.48 | fiberchunks_ | which gave nothing - no line |
| 01:08.05 | Patlabor221 | you used GL calls to draw the line or SDL calls to draw the line? |
| 01:08.09 | fiberchunks_ | anyway, I tried a different app that draws the fancy colored triangle (and always worked) |
| 01:08.10 | fiberchunks_ | GL |
| 01:08.15 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:08.36 | Patlabor221 | soulds like your glDrivers got in a wacked state or something |
| 01:08.41 | fiberchunks_ | and the colored triangle no longer appeared...so then I ran another app that always worked, and it did (GLFrame from NeHe tuts) -- this one worked |
| 01:08.55 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 01:09.11 | fiberchunks_ | well, that's what I thought too, so I reinstalled the drivers, restarted the machine, and still the same result with that one app (and several others) |
| 01:09.18 | Patlabor221 | I allways try to use an "odd" clear color, not someting the same as a window default, so I know it's drawing. |
| 01:09.32 | fiberchunks_ | ah, like light blue or somesuch? |
| 01:09.34 | Patlabor221 | but now they work? |
| 01:09.36 | Patlabor221 | anyting |
| 01:09.38 | fiberchunks_ | seems to be |
| 01:09.40 | Patlabor221 | gray |
| 01:09.44 | Patlabor221 | purple |
| 01:09.54 | Patlabor221 | anything that rymes with orange. |
| 01:09.56 | fiberchunks_ | nm, it's doing it again!?!?!?! wtf |
| 01:10.31 | fiberchunks_ | yet, when I run SDLgears it works fine -- I have no fargin idea what is going on here |
| 01:11.35 | Patlabor221 | There must be someting difrent |
| 01:11.48 | fiberchunks_ | not a thing |
| 01:12.02 | Patlabor221 | if you were on the prefred dev plat, I would say step on thru and see what works and what doesnt |
| 01:12.07 | fiberchunks_ | there's more than one proggie that does it |
| 01:12.42 | Patlabor221 | tiss odd |
| 01:12.42 | fiberchunks_ | and they all used to work too - that's why I'm baffled -- if it was just my app, then I'd say retard coding alert, but it's with other apps that worked just fine |
| 01:12.56 | Patlabor221 | have you another system to try them on? |
| 01:13.08 | fiberchunks_ | yah -- gonna try em downstairs in a little while |
| 01:14.14 | fiberchunks_ | if you use SDL_GL_swapbuffers, are you also supposed to use glFlush() after finishing all your drawing stuff? |
| 01:14.15 | Patlabor221 | unless your compiler has gone wonkey |
| 01:14.31 | Patlabor221 | no swap buffers will flush for you |
| 01:14.41 | fiberchunks_ | could that cause the problem? |
| 01:14.46 | Patlabor221 | but it dosn't hurt to call flush before swap |
| 01:14.52 | fiberchunks_ | ah, k |
| 01:15.01 | Patlabor221 | the second flush will just return since the que is empyt |
| 01:16.08 | Patlabor221 | see your computer is just telling you to use LGE |
| 01:16.14 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 01:16.40 | Patlabor221 | LGE allways works on the prefred developement platfrorm |
| 01:16.48 | Patlabor221 | not much realy |
| 01:16.59 | scanline | oh, LGE must make SDL work on windows |
| 01:17.00 | Patlabor221 | set up some transforms |
| 01:17.01 | scanline | :P |
| 01:17.03 | fiberchunks_ | which means it probably won't compile nicely on the 'preferred server platform' ;) |
| 01:17.22 | Patlabor221 | CAP made it work on de leenox |
| 01:17.36 | Patlabor221 | realy it's just a pile of utils |
| 01:17.40 | fiberchunks_ | is ragnarok behaving nicely? |
| 01:17.45 | Patlabor221 | ohh god no |
| 01:17.53 | fiberchunks_ | ooo, what now |
| 01:18.02 | Patlabor221 | got it's butoox kicked |
| 01:18.09 | fiberchunks_ | you reinstall? |
| 01:18.12 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:18.15 | Patlabor221 | reseting up now |
| 01:18.18 | fiberchunks_ | ah |
| 01:18.40 | Patlabor221 | one of the bloddy MD "hotfixes" is screwing up IIS |
| 01:18.52 | Patlabor221 | but I took the baka site off that machine |
| 01:18.58 | Patlabor221 | and moved it to asgard. |
| 01:20.11 | Patlabor221 | I'm pulling all the hotfixes now and seting up a 3rd party util to handle the protection |
| 01:20.27 | Patlabor221 | then it'll just be there for the ASP test site. |
| 01:20.32 | fiberchunks_ | this is very friking odd -- I'm not pleased with this at all |
| 01:20.34 | fiberchunks_ | :( |
| 01:22.10 | Patlabor221 | it could be |
| 01:22.17 | Patlabor221 | I blame all bad things on make now |
| 01:22.26 | Patlabor221 | even like my alarm not going off |
| 01:22.36 | fiberchunks_ | lol |
| 01:22.56 | Patlabor221 | and the fact that I can't get into my apartment cus the stairs are being replaced. |
| 01:29.05 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I may have to chock this up to a real hardware problem with der bak. |
| 01:33.37 | fiberchunks_ | -L/usr/path/to/whatever has to come before -lWHATEVER right? |
| 01:34.04 | scanline | I don't think it matters |
| 01:34.20 | Patlabor221 | huzahhh |
| 01:35.12 | Patlabor221 | capppy the secondary dev system is being VERY secondary today. |
| 01:35.20 | captain_proton | hah |
| 01:35.38 | Patlabor221 | I want to make it more primary but it's not cooperating |
| 01:35.45 | Patlabor221 | and I keep calling it a bastard. |
| 01:35.57 | scanline | Patlabor221: you and your silly primary dev system.. who plays BZFlag on ProDOS these days anyway? |
| 01:36.00 | Patlabor221 | tho it is being a perfect server |
| 01:36.14 | scanline | sorry, I meant ProDOS emulation mode under OS/2 Warp |
| 01:36.17 | Patlabor221 | scanline: your mama! |
| 01:37.24 | Patlabor221 | wellp it looks like the secondary server system has to go behind a harware firewall |
| 01:37.33 | Patlabor221 | poor little bastard child webserver thingy |
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| 01:38.34 | ak|ra | re |
| 01:38.49 | fiberchunks_ | $(CC) is = gcc -Wall -ansi |
| 01:39.04 | scanline | fiberchunks_: the errors you're getting might be more helpful than that command line |
| 01:39.22 | fiberchunks_ | nm, me was being stupid |
| 01:39.50 | fiberchunks_ | of course it'll have problems linking if you pass it the wrong damned argument to make :\ |
| 01:41.17 | fiberchunks_ | this black screen crap is aggravating -- /me thinks about reinstalling gcc / g++ |
| 01:41.28 | ak|ra | hehe |
| 01:41.37 | Patlabor221 | if you change the clear color it dosn't show it? |
| 01:41.46 | fiberchunks_ | hang on, lemme try |
| 01:43.06 | Patlabor221 | ok go to guy |
| 01:43.29 | Patlabor221 | make[3]: Entering directory `/home/JeffM/BZFlag-Zero/src/bzflag' |
| 01:43.38 | fiberchunks_ | Patlabor221: interesting, I changed the glClearColor to (0.75, 0.75, 0.75, 0.5), and it worked -- why would that be? |
| 01:44.06 | fiberchunks_ | phoot, flood boy ;) |
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| 01:44.32 | Patlabor221 | whoot floodtacular |
| 01:44.44 | fiberchunks_ | so, before you flooded, I changed the clear color to 0.75 all the way around, and it worked |
| 01:44.48 | fiberchunks_ | why would that be? |
| 01:44.58 | Patlabor221 | everything worked |
| 01:45.05 | Patlabor221 | or just a screen with the clear color? |
| 01:45.25 | fiberchunks_ | no, the whole thing -- got the rotating and wavy mapped rect and everything |
| 01:45.40 | Patlabor221 | then your compiler isn't compiln |
| 01:45.52 | fiberchunks_ | so you're saying that g++ / gcc is broken? |
| 01:46.06 | Patlabor221 | or there are some crap o files or something |
| 01:46.11 | Patlabor221 | is your date set right? |
| 01:46.15 | ak|ra | :) |
| 01:46.33 | fiberchunks_ | well, as long as it's 01/31/03 @ 20:35 est, yes |
| 01:46.48 | Patlabor221 | was it not set right when you last built them perhaps? |
| 01:46.58 | Patlabor221 | it's the 30th |
| 01:47.04 | fiberchunks_ | is it? |
| 01:47.07 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:47.08 | fiberchunks_ | hrm |
| 01:47.26 | Patlabor221 | did the time change recently |
| 01:47.31 | fiberchunks_ | no |
| 01:47.43 | fiberchunks_ | just as an aside, why would that matter? |
| 01:48.02 | Patlabor221 | it only compiles things that it thinks have changed, and it uses modified data |
| 01:48.24 | Patlabor221 | if the current date is before the mod date I've seen stuff get screwy |
| 01:49.31 | Patlabor221 | I would try a clean build of one of the other projctes that dosn't work |
| 01:49.37 | Patlabor221 | blow out the temp files and stuff |
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| 01:50.48 | patlabor221_ | make[3]: Entering directory `/home/JeffM/BZFlag-Zero/src/bzflag' |
| 01:50.48 | patlabor221_ | /usr/bin/g++ -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE -DHALF_RATE_AUDIO -DXF86VIDMODE_EX |
| 01:50.48 | patlabor221_ | T -DXIJOYSTICK -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -fno-exceptions -fno |
| 01:50.49 | patlabor221_ | -rtti -DVERSION=0012601 -DROBOT -DINSTALL_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/bzfla |
| 01:50.51 | patlabor221_ | g/data\" -I../../include -DNDEBUG -O2 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -fnonnu |
| 01:50.53 | patlabor221_ | ll-objects -fexpensive-optimizations -o ../../bin/bzflagZ MainWindow.o Control |
| 01:50.57 | patlabor221_ | Panel.o World.o SceneBuilder.o SceneRenderer.o BackgroundRenderer.o RadarRendere |
| 01:50.59 | patlabor221_ | r.o HUDRenderer.o HUDui.o ShotPath.o ShotStrategy.o Region.o RenderNode.o Player |
| 01:51.01 | patlabor221_ | .o playing.o LocalPlayer.o RemotePlayer.o RobotPlayer.o DeadPlayer.o ServerLink. |
| 01:51.01 | fiberchunks_ | well, at this point I'm always doing an rm -rf *o <projectfile> |
| 01:51.03 | patlabor221_ | o PlayerLink.o KeyMap.o daylight.o texture.o resources.o sound.o bzflag.o HUDDia |
| 01:51.05 | patlabor221_ | log.o menus.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib ../../lib/libNet.a ../../lib/libCommon.a ../. |
| 01:51.07 | patlabor221_ | ./lib/libObstacle.a ../../lib/libPlatform.a ../../lib/libGLKit.a ../../lib/libSc |
| 01:51.09 | patlabor221_ | eneDB.a ../../lib/libGeometry.a -lGLU -lGL -lXxf86vm -lXi -lXext -lX11 -l |
| 01:51.11 | patlabor221_ | m |
| 01:51.13 | patlabor221_ | ../../lib/libGeometry.a(AnimMesh.o): In function `AnimModel::LoadA3D(char const* |
| 01:51.15 | patlabor221_ | )': |
| 01:51.17 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x1756): undefined reference to `OSFile::OSFile[in-charge](char |
| 01:51.19 | patlabor221_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.21 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x176a): undefined reference to `OSFile::Open(bool, bool)' |
| 01:51.23 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x1778): undefined reference to `OSFile::GetFile()' |
| 01:51.27 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x17c8): undefined reference to `OSFile::~OSFile [iwhn-charge]()' |
| 01:51.29 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x2481): undefined reference to `OSFile::Close()' |
| 01:51.31 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x25ac): undefined reference to `OSFile::~OSFile [in-charge]()' |
| 01:51.33 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x29b1): undefined reference to `OSFile::~OSFile [in-charge]()' |
| 01:51.35 | patlabor221_ | ../../lib/libGeometry.a(AnimMesh.o): In function `AnimModel::LoadU3D(char const* |
| 01:51.37 | patlabor221_ | , char const*)': |
| 01:51.39 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x29e1): undefined reference to `OSDir::OSDir[in-charge](char c |
| 01:51.41 | patlabor221_ | onst*)' |
| 01:51.43 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x29fc): undefined reference to `OSDir::GetOSName()' |
| 01:51.45 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x2a7a): undefined reference to `OSDir::GetOSName()' |
| 01:51.47 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x2fca): undefined reference to `OSDir::GetOSName()' |
| 01:51.49 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x3e65): undefined reference to `OSDir::~OSDir [in-charge]()' |
| 01:51.51 | patlabor221_ | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x402f): undefined reference to `OSDir::~OSDir [in-charge]()' |
| 01:51.53 | patlabor221_ | ../../lib/libGeometry.a(AnimMesh.o): In function `AnimModel::LoadMD3(char const* |
| 01:51.57 | patlabor221_ | )': |
| 01:51.58 | Patlabor221 | what does that do to the make, clear it all out? |
| 01:52.11 | sussudio | ~slap Patlabor221 |
| 01:52.14 | fiberchunks_ | yah, akin to make clean -- but manual |
| 01:52.18 | fiberchunks_ | style |
| 01:52.43 | Patlabor221 | perhaps it's not doing it |
| 01:52.49 | fiberchunks_ | so, the only thing that doesn't have a date change is the .c file |
| 01:53.01 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 01:53.11 | Patlabor221 | but when you changed the c file it worked |
| 01:53.21 | fiberchunks_ | yah |
| 01:53.31 | Patlabor221 | try just making a little change to the c file like adding a space |
| 01:53.36 | Patlabor221 | then build one that dosn't work |
| 01:54.11 | Patlabor221 | time to get sorry ass home and see if the stairs are done |
| 01:54.49 | fiberchunks_ | jeezus, now everything's working again -- wtf is going on here? |
| 01:55.04 | fiberchunks_ | DLCGoToGuy , scanline any ideas? |
| 01:57.45 | fiberchunks_ | brb, gonna reset my clock |
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| 02:00.56 | fiberchunks | remind me to never put /usr on a separate partition |
| 02:01.27 | fiberchunks | brb, again |
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| 02:07.45 | fiberchunks | there, my time is set now |
| 02:13.54 | Patlabor221 | that may not be it, but you never know |
| 02:14.11 | fiberchunks | sure isn't, the problem has availed itself again |
| 02:14.18 | fiberchunks | jeezus this is irritating |
| 02:15.16 | Patlabor221 | it's 1 of 2 things, compiler, drver, or gl libs |
| 02:15.27 | Patlabor221 | and I don't know that much about lin builds |
| 02:15.31 | Patlabor221 | and I have to go |
| 02:15.41 | fiberchunks | thanks anyway |
| 02:15.45 | Patlabor221 | 3 more dvds of "the bigO" to go thru |
| 02:15.50 | Patlabor221 | I hope it works out. |
| 02:31.07 | *** part/#bzflag jpablo (~jpablo@dsl-200-67-6-1.prodigy.net.mx) |
| 02:32.47 | sussudio | spoogebob is on comcast, right? |
| 02:33.41 | jacques_gone | arg not that guy again |
| 02:34.37 | sussudio | well i think it was him anyway. he was using the nick "team killer" and cursing |
| 02:35.16 | jacques_gone | :-( |
| 02:35.27 | sussudio | so i told him to cool it and he said 'make me'..... |
| 02:35.38 | sussudio | which is why /kick is very handy |
| 02:35.53 | sussudio | ~jzaun |
| 02:36.12 | jacques_gone | lol it's good to be an admin |
| 02:36.35 | sussudio | too bad it was about 2 seconds before the map expire |
| 02:36.43 | doughecka | hahaah |
| 02:41.20 | jacques_gone | what does tht mean? the kick only lasts for that map? |
| 02:43.58 | sussudio | that too |
| 02:44.12 | sussudio | there's a 1 hour timelimit on maps on jzaun |
| 02:44.36 | fiberchunks | hrm |
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| 03:49.01 | sussudio | 100/75 isnt too bad on ducati, is it? |
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| 03:51.20 | sussudio | having plow on your team is a handicap, ofcourse. |
| 03:51.39 | michaelh20 | BZIsrael ? |
| 03:51.49 | sussudio | what? |
| 03:52.06 | michaelh20 | Armored bulldozers... ? |
| 03:52.19 | sussudio | ~ducati |
| 03:52.19 | michaelh20 | ohh.. or is plow a person ? |
| 03:52.25 | sussudio | well sort of a person. |
| 03:52.28 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
| 03:52.41 | sussudio | ~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 03:52.41 | michaelh20 | ~No Players |
| 03:52.48 | sussudio | wtf |
| 03:52.56 | michaelh20 | ~wtf |
| 03:52.57 | | i heard wtf is the point of playing music when you can write it? |
| 03:52.58 | sussudio | ~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 03:53.25 | michaelh20 | ~job |
| 03:53.25 | | rumour has it, job is firewalls, routers, penetration testing, OS hardening etc |
| 03:53.43 | sussudio | penetration testing?! |
| 03:53.48 | michaelh20 | heh |
| 03:54.01 | michaelh20 | ibot |
| 03:54.08 | michaelh20 | ~ibot |
| 03:54.09 | | extra, extra, read all about it, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
| 03:56.30 | michaelh20 | ~bzero |
| 03:56.37 | michaelh20 | ~bzzero |
| 03:56.46 | michaelh20 | ~dead ibot |
| 03:56.56 | michaelh20 | ~bots |
| 03:56.57 | | . URL: http://studenti.ing.unipi.it/~s198977/bots.html |
| 03:57.12 | michaelh20 | ~gremlins |
| 03:57.22 | michaelh20 | speak ibot |
| 03:57.29 | michaelh20 | ~speak to me |
| 03:57.42 | michaelh20 | ~ibot is crap |
| 03:57.51 | michaelh20 | ibot is crap |
| 03:57.51 | | michaelh20: no idea |
| 03:58.03 | michaelh20 | why not |
| 03:58.06 | michaelh20 | ibot: why not |
| 03:58.07 | | no idea, michaelh20 |
| 03:58.12 | michaelh20 | ibot: die |
| 03:58.16 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 03:58.20 | michaelh20 | heh |
| 03:59.11 | michaelh20 | ibot: kill |
| 03:59.12 | | ACTION kills all the morons |
| 03:59.12 | sussudio | ~why |
| 03:59.28 | michaelh20 | ibot: go postal |
| 03:59.28 | | ACTION rampages, killing everyone in sight! |
| 03:59.57 | michaelh20 | ibot: update source code |
| 03:59.58 | | michaelh20: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 04:00.14 | michaelh20 | ibot: kill Piggy |
| 04:00.15 | | michaelh20: i haven't a clue |
| 04:00.32 | michaelh20 | ~say hi to Piggy |
| 04:02.24 | michaelh20 | ~speak |
| 04:02.44 | Piggy | kiss my shiny metal ass, michaelh20 |
| 04:04.32 | michaelh20 | ~help |
| 04:04.43 | Piggy | you're beyond help |
| 04:05.16 | michaelh20 | ~news |
| 04:05.25 | Piggy | no news for you |
| 04:05.39 | michaelh20 | ~listkeys |
| 04:05.49 | Piggy | list your own damn keys |
| 04:06.11 | michaelh20 | ~listkeys * |
| 04:06.26 | michaelh20 | ~listkeys .* |
| 04:07.05 | michaelh20 | ~where is job |
| 04:07.06 | | from memory, job is firewalls, routers, penetration testing, OS hardening etc |
| 04:08.35 | sussudio | i hate posh kids |
| 04:08.47 | michaelh20 | ? |
| 04:09.06 | sussudio | kids of wealthy parents who talk like they have a potato stuck up their backside |
| 04:09.07 | michaelh20 | you mean the ones who get BMW's for their birthday? |
| 04:09.36 | sussudio | that or a fist sandwich from me |
| 04:09.52 | michaelh20 | this from dealing with them first hand or.. ? |
| 04:10.11 | sussudio | maybe |
| 04:11.49 | sussudio | man... how can you not discover a dead body for 2 friggin years |
| 04:12.05 | sussudio | i mean..... apart from the 2 meter high stack of mail at the door..... |
| 04:12.16 | michaelh20 | what is this... |
| 04:12.18 | sussudio | or the maggots crawling everywhere |
| 04:13.01 | sussudio | maybe old people cant tell the difference between a rotting corpse and their cauliflower meal |
| 04:16.55 | michaelh20 | ~old people |
| 04:17.07 | michaelh20 | ~corpse |
| 04:17.16 | michaelh20 | ~hello |
| 04:17.17 | | Howdy Bub |
| 04:19.09 | sussudio | ~pig michaelh20 |
| 04:19.11 | | michaelh20 is 29% pig! |
| 04:19.29 | michaelh20 | heh |
| 04:19.34 | michaelh20 | ~pig sussudio |
| 04:19.36 | | sussudio is 58% pig! |
| 04:19.39 | michaelh20 | woah |
| 04:19.43 | michaelh20 | ~pig sussudio |
| 04:19.44 | | sussudio is 19% pig! |
| 04:19.50 | michaelh20 | hmmm |
| 04:19.58 | michaelh20 | ~rat ibot |
| 04:20.14 | michaelh20 | ~rand |
| 04:20.15 | | 1 |
| 04:20.19 | michaelh20 | ~rand |
| 04:20.19 | | 2 |
| 04:20.35 | michaelh20 | ~rand |
| 04:20.51 | michaelh20 | ~java |
| 04:20.52 | | i heard java is at (Link: http://www.blackdown.org)http://www.blackdown.org or at (Link: http://www.javasoft.com)http://www.javasoft.com or at (Link: http://www.savaje.com)http://www.savaje.com or at (Link: http://www.pocketlinux.com)http://www.pocketlinux.com or at (Link: http://java.sun.com)http://java.sun.com or at http://www.insignia.com |
| 04:21.06 | michaelh20 | ~virtual |
| 04:21.21 | michaelh20 | ~rand |
| 04:21.21 | | 9 |
| 04:21.27 | michaelh20 | ~srand |
| 04:21.34 | michaelh20 | ~goto |
| 04:21.43 | ElectricElf | Poor blootbot. |
| 04:22.05 | michaelh20 | ~self destruct |
| 04:22.14 | michaelh20 | ~self-destruct |
| 04:23.04 | sussudio | michaelh20: how about getting a hobby? |
| 04:23.31 | michaelh20 | hmmm |
| 04:23.45 | sussudio | !uptime |
| 04:23.47 | Piggy | Bot Uptime: (1 week 1 day 13 hours 59 minutes 47 seconds) System Uptime: (17 days, 12:44) Squeeeeeel!!! |
| 04:24.32 | michaelh20 | ~hammer time |
| 04:24.38 | sussudio | ~hammertime |
| 04:24.38 | | ACTION beats up Chestal |
| 04:25.30 | michaelh20 | ~eat |
| 04:25.30 | | removes the first X lines from stdin. URL: http://www.enol.com/~markw/src/eat.html |
| 04:25.49 | michaelh20 | ~eat |
| 04:25.50 | | removes the first X lines from stdin. URL: http://www.enol.com/~markw/src/eat.html |
| 04:26.44 | michaelh20 | ~eat a horse |
| 04:27.06 | michaelh20 | ~pi |
| 04:27.06 | | i guess pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 04:27.10 | michaelh20 | I knew it |
| 04:28.36 | michaelh20 | ~f.* |
| 04:28.47 | michaelh20 | ~fart |
| 04:28.48 | | ACTION farts. |
| 04:30.08 | michaelh20 | ~fart in general direction |
| 04:30.39 | michaelh20 | ~mint |
| 04:31.00 | michaelh20 | ~dance the night away |
| 04:31.00 | sussudio | ~bzflist |
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| 06:03.46 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* quiet again |
| 06:36.36 | stibnite | you know what i told you about your pots, Ruprecht. |
| 06:36.46 | stibnite | if you keep banging on your pots, you won't have any pots left! |
| 06:39.12 | HPP | heheh |
| 06:47.46 | scanline | ~factinfo particle of the day |
| 06:47.49 | | particle of the day -- created by scanline <~micah@aden2-83-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU> 3d 11h 10m 55s ago; it has been requested 50 times, last by scanline, 9h 31m 12s ago. |
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| 07:11.37 | scanline | ~trek du jour |
| 07:11.37 | | There seems to be a excited positrino damping amplifier in the construct, ensign kirk |
| 07:11.58 | scanline | ~trek du jour |
| 07:12.02 | | Explosion imminent: excited flux photon inversion generator in the holodeck, ensign spock |
| 07:12.37 | Secret_Hamster | I love Star Trek Techno babble |
| 07:12.42 | scanline | ~trek du jour |
| 07:12.44 | | Explosion imminent: excited anti-neutron emission generator in deck 42, ensign kirk |
| 07:12.57 | scanline | hmm, it seems to like 'ensign'... |
| 07:13.00 | scanline | ~trek du jour |
| 07:13.00 | | Explosion imminent: magneto-ionized flux neutrino inversion field in 10-forward, ensign kirk |
| 07:13.08 | scanline | ~trek du jour |
| 07:13.09 | | It's some kind of excited pseudoelectron damping amplifier in the holodeck, commander travis |
| 07:13.13 | scanline | yay! |
| 07:13.15 | scanline | commander travis! |
| 07:13.52 | Secret_Hamster | Travis? |
| 07:14.33 | scanline | ~sci-fi of the day |
| 07:14.34 | | There seems to be a inverse graviton damping field in the construct, captain kirk |
| 07:15.02 | Secret_Hamster | I don't know why I ever watch Star Trek, I just sit there pulling it apart. Theworst thing I always hate is when they contradict themselves int he episodes |
| 07:15.23 | scanline | captain_proton: NEW TOY! |
| 07:15.52 | Secret_Hamster | any way off to code my bot |
| 07:16.02 | scanline | ~literal scifi |
| 07:16.02 | | scifi is <reply> (It's some kind of|There seems to be a|Explosion imminent:) (hyper-charged|charged|inverse|excited|magneto-ionized|ionized)( flux | anti-| pseudo| | )(neutron|meson|neutrino|quark|proton|electron|tachyon|graviton|photon|positrino) (inversion|reflection|emission|damping) (field|generator|amplifier) in (engineering|the holodeck|10-forward|the construct|deck 42), (captain|ensign|commander) (travis|spock|kirk) |
| 07:16.43 | scanline | would have added more, but there's a silly length limit... |
| 07:16.50 | MrApathyCream | nifty |
| 07:17.15 | scanline | I tried nesting the (||) operator inside the ()? operator, but that seems broken |
| 07:30.51 | captain_proton | yay for commander travis |
| 07:30.55 | captain_proton | SPACE COMMANDER TRAVIS! |
| 07:43.27 | captain_proton | what an exciting evening |
| 07:44.49 | Secret_Hamster | evening? It's 07:44 here? |
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| 08:15.48 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 08:22.37 | TimRiker | 6 close_waits on xmission at present. not spinning cpu anymore though. |
| 08:22.55 | MrApathyCream | good, sorta |
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| 08:23.55 | MrApathyCream | are fd values reused, or are they new |
| 08:25.22 | TimRiker | new. any opens now cannot use the handles that are in close wait. |
| 08:25.23 | MrApathyCream | could be server full-refused sockets perhaps too |
| 08:25.37 | TimRiker | perhaps |
| 08:26.00 | TimRiker | anyone in dallas area? |
| 08:29.55 | MrApathyCream | so as i understand it, the client has called close, but the server has not, and we just need to call close? |
| 08:35.19 | TimRiker | yes. the client closed the pipe after sending some data (7 or 11 bytes almost always) and the server ignored the close. |
| 08:37.23 | MrApathyCream | 7 or 11 bytes total for the life time of the socket, or the last send |
| 08:40.21 | TimRiker | left in the input on the handle. |
| 08:40.23 | TimRiker | tcp 11 0 166.70.135.189:5157 66.201.156.121:1201 CLOSE_WAIT |
| 08:40.25 | TimRiker | tcp 7 0 166.70.135.189:5157 68.108.129.159:55569 CLOSE_WAIT |
| 08:41.51 | MrApathyCream | what if we put (temporarily) all sockets in a smart pointer, that closes on dtor |
| 08:44.54 | MrApathyCream | well, 1 socket per smartpointer |
| 08:45.54 | TimRiker | "smartpointer" ? |
| 08:46.06 | MrApathyCream | class that overrides operator-> |
| 08:46.36 | MrApathyCream | ah, bah, sockets aren't classes |
| 08:46.37 | TimRiker | well the handles are part of the player object which is not destroyed, just reused. |
| 08:46.49 | MrApathyCream | never mind |
| 08:48.13 | TimRiker | ~fishslap MrApathyCream for thinking the world is written in C++ |
| 08:48.15 | | ACTION slaps MrApathyCream up side the head with a wet fish for thinking the world is written in C++ |
| 08:48.26 | MrApathyCream | what if... |
| 08:48.27 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.27 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.27 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.27 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.28 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.45 | MrApathyCream | before assigning fd, see if can close() on it |
| 08:49.44 | TimRiker | well fd should not be in use if player[playerIndex].state == PlayerNoExist |
| 08:50.34 | MrApathyCream | bah, it's got to be addClient.... How could that possible be right |
| 08:51.42 | MrApathyCream | why not check for fd == NotConnected there as well |
| 08:51.42 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.51 | MrApathyCream | but still, addClient... gotta be wrong |
| 08:57.31 | TimRiker | why? addClient should only happen in PlayerAccept state |
| 08:57.46 | MrApathyCream | just smells bad |
| 08:57.48 | TimRiker | and it closes the handle first. |
| 08:57.48 | MrApathyCream | lessee |
| 08:57.55 | MrApathyCream | player1 and player2 are in PlayerAccept state |
| 08:58.17 | MrApathyCream | player2 moves to addClient state, but server assumes player1 |
| 08:58.38 | MrApathyCream | player1 is shutdown before player1 is ready to reconnect |
| 08:58.44 | MrApathyCream | and player1 shuts down |
| 08:59.26 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, i guesss the accept fails then |
| 08:59.30 | MrApathyCream | so player1 is cleaned up |
| 08:59.39 | TimRiker | right. |
| 08:59.46 | MrApathyCream | meanwhile player2 is trying to reconnect |
| 08:59.51 | MrApathyCream | but the server does notice |
| 08:59.59 | MrApathyCream | er doesn't |
| 09:00.23 | MrApathyCream | --is that right? |
| 09:00.47 | MrApathyCream | so server keeps player2s orig socket around |
| 09:01.17 | MrApathyCream | --plausable? |
| 09:03.08 | TimRiker | theserver should timeout the player2 connection ok though, no? |
| 09:03.50 | TimRiker | and that would close it, set the fd to -1 and the state to notconnected. |
| 09:03.57 | MrApathyCream | but shutdown loop looks like this |
| 09:03.58 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.09 | MrApathyCream | if the wrong socket was closed, curMaxPlayers might decrement |
| 09:04.16 | MrApathyCream | and we no longer check the open one |
| 09:04.23 | MrApathyCream | --maybe haven't thought it through |
| 09:05.35 | MrApathyCream | hmm, or maybe not... |
| 09:05.37 | MrApathyCream | confusing |
| 09:06.07 | MrApathyCream | >>What was you 'fix' to make sure you have the right addClient client |
| 09:06.13 | MrApathyCream | >>i realize it had problems... |
| 09:15.00 | MrApathyCream | well good luck->sl33p |
| 09:16.11 | TimRiker | nite |
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| 11:34.54 | home | hi :o) |
| 11:36.35 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 11:38.00 | strayer | TimRiker: how can I view all commands the bot knows? |
| 11:39.48 | [dmp] | hi strayer :) |
| 11:40.17 | strayer | lo dmp :] |
| 11:42.58 | strayer | cu asap [dmp]...my 'work' for this week is done, so I have to go off :(... |
| 11:43.16 | strayer | bye all... |
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| 11:58.38 | ak|ra | hi |
| 12:01.33 | Chestal | tag akira |
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| 12:28.55 | Cell | buah eh schon wieder Freitag eh! |
| 12:32.32 | Cell | DSDS |
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| 12:59.21 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
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| 13:07.53 | bzgirl | ~seen [dmp] |
| 13:07.55 | | [dmp] <~somewhere@0x50c4919b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 8m 34s ago, saying: '~ducatictf'. |
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| 13:53.55 | Chestal | hmm, what exactly is the difference between -s and +s? |
| 13:54.30 | doughecka | what does -s do? |
| 13:54.50 | Chestal | -s <n> = up to n superflags |
| 13:54.57 | doughecka | oh |
| 13:54.58 | Chestal | +s <n> = exactly n superflags |
| 13:55.20 | Chestal | I understand that, but wonder what exactly the server does differently |
| 13:55.29 | doughecka | oh |
| 13:55.44 | doughecka | hmm |
| 14:00.09 | doughecka | interesting |
| 14:00.18 | doughecka | this direct cd software burns the whole cd |
| 14:00.33 | Chestal | I wonder if I should use -a for a change :-) |
| 14:00.59 | doughecka | then copys the files onto the cd |
| 14:01.01 | doughecka | -a? |
| 14:01.05 | doughecka | whats that do? |
| 14:02.25 | Chestal | enfore inertia, max acceleration |
| 14:02.37 | Chestal | setup 5155 now liek this, I don't think anyone will play there ;-) |
| 14:03.04 | doughecka | ah |
| 14:03.10 | doughecka | lol |
| 14:05.33 | bomber | ~ducatictf |
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| 14:27.37 | bomber | ~ducatictf |
| 14:50.29 | bomber | ~ducatictf |
| 14:50.37 | bomber | hm |
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| 15:44.00 | [TeA|TrEE] | hello |
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| 15:48.46 | [dmp] | hu |
| 15:48.50 | [dmp] | hi |
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| 16:05.53 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
| 16:07.20 | bomber | 5155 |
| 16:07.58 | sussudio | ~literal CMD: factoid (.*?) |
| 16:08.14 | sussudio | ~literal ducatictf |
| 16:08.15 | | ducatictf is <reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:59999 |
| 16:08.24 | sussudio | why the heck is it pointing at 59999?! |
| 16:08.37 | sussudio | ibot forget ducatictf |
| 16:08.38 | | cannot alter locked factoids, sussudio |
| 16:08.47 | sussudio | ~factinfo ducatictf |
| 16:08.47 | | ducatictf -- last modified 21h 34m 6s ago by TimRiker!timr@rikers.org; it has been requested 10 times, last by [dmp], 2m 53s ago; it has been locked by TimRiker. |
| 16:08.52 | sussudio | grrr |
| 16:09.23 | sussudio | ibot ducati5 is <reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5555 |
| 16:09.24 | | sussudio: okay |
| 16:09.36 | sussudio | err |
| 16:09.43 | sussudio | ibot forget ducati5 |
| 16:09.43 | | sussudio: i forgot ducati5 |
| 16:09.46 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.47 | | sussudio: okay |
| 16:09.54 | bomber | what about 5156 |
| 16:09.55 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.56 | | okay, sussudio |
| 16:10.00 | bomber | ahhh |
| 16:10.02 | sussudio | ~ducati6 |
| 16:10.03 | Chestal | hmm |
| 16:10.37 | sussudio | ~ducati5 |
| 16:10.48 | bomber | ~ducatictf |
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| 16:20.43 | [TeA|TrEE] | confusing thes ducati12345 |
| 16:20.46 | [TeA|TrEE] | e |
| 16:27.04 | *** part/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@CPE002078c68203-CM014370004644.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
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| 16:27.51 | Chestal | hmm |
| 16:27.56 | Chestal | I gotkicked for speeding |
| 16:28.14 | Chestal | ah |
| 16:28.25 | Chestal | I think I know why |
| 16:29.30 | Chestal | hmm, difficult to solve |
| 16:29.35 | Chestal | MAC: alive? |
| 16:32.33 | bomber | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:44.25 | doughecka | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 16:45.33 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 16:45.50 | bomber | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.55 | doughecka | nothin much |
| 17:09.13 | bomber | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:17.35 | doughecka | callypygian |
| 17:32.05 | doughecka | ~dict boardfoot |
| 17:32.09 | doughecka | bah |
| 17:32.13 | doughecka | cheap thing |
| 17:35.30 | doughecka | cool, mozilla supports clicking with the middle mouse button and opening the link in a new tab |
| 17:37.09 | fiberchunks | oooooo, this just keeps getting weirder and weirder :\ |
| 17:38.05 | doughecka | yup |
| 17:41.03 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: you have any wizardly insight into my problems with gl/sdl? |
| 17:41.26 | fiberchunks | note that now some of them display, and some don't lol - -how bizarre |
| 17:43.44 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:43.46 | fiberchunks | unless it has some perfect mojo |
| 17:43.58 | doughecka | laptops dont like any 3d stuff |
| 17:44.04 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:45.15 | doughecka | how do I spin down my drives in linux? |
| 17:45.32 | fiberchunks | some sort of parameter to the apm daemon, I imagine |
| 17:45.38 | doughecka | ah |
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| 18:00.17 | doughecka | screen? |
| 18:00.40 | doughecka | www.screenusa.com |
| 18:07.56 | Jormungandr | well, server is up... now I gotta wait til fiber is installed. |
| 18:08.09 | captain_proton | http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ |
| 18:08.10 | fiberchunks | I am installed and waiting, sir :) |
| 18:08.22 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 18:08.27 | doughecka | fiberchunks: NO EXCUSE SIR! |
| 18:08.45 | Jormungandr | we have oc48 installed to local CO, but between local CO and other office is 2 days late. |
| 18:08.54 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:09.05 | fiberchunks | oooo, what's the bandwidth of an oc48 link? |
| 18:09.29 | Jormungandr | 48x45Mbits |
| 18:09.33 | doughecka | WOOWOO |
| 18:09.54 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 18:10.06 | doughecka | ~48*45 |
| 18:10.07 | | 2160 |
| 18:10.15 | Jormungandr | OC## is the number of DS3 circuits it holds. |
| 18:10.17 | doughecka | wow |
| 18:10.24 | fiberchunks | what is it, a T1 is 24 pots lines, a T3 is 24 T1's etc. |
| 18:10.31 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:10.34 | Jormungandr | so OC3 is 3 DS3s or 3x45 mb. |
| 18:11.15 | captain_proton | OC3 is 155 megabit |
| 18:11.20 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 18:11.29 | doughecka | thats still alot |
| 18:11.35 | captain_proton | 3x45 < 155 |
| 18:11.43 | Jormungandr | well, it's approx. |
| 18:13.31 | Jormungandr | he says 3 ds3s plus overhead |
| 18:13.52 | Jormungandr | so it's actually more than x45Mb |
| 18:13.57 | Jormungandr | just a little more. |
| 18:14.19 | Jormungandr | my new server is 100mb. |
| 18:14.23 | doughecka | haha |
| 18:14.37 | Jormungandr | and they want me to help test the rate limiting on the switch by doing some ping flooding. |
| 18:14.46 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:15.01 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:15.08 | doughecka | thats like a LAN speed |
| 18:15.12 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 18:15.19 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 18:15.42 | doughecka | how fast is the internet backbones?? |
| 18:15.44 | Jormungandr | for now it will stay at 100.. maybe permanently... depends on politics at the new datacenter. |
| 18:15.54 | Jormungandr | it's OC48 to the backbone. |
| 18:15.54 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:16.00 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:16.34 | Jormungandr | the company that i am working with is globalcrossing's second largest bandwidth customer. |
| 18:16.42 | doughecka | woah |
| 18:17.32 | Jormungandr | in fact, the owner founded some of the internet-centric aspects of globalcrossing... he was the founder of primenet, which became globalcenter. |
| 18:17.39 | Jormungandr | why for? |
| 18:17.46 | doughecka | XP is acting up |
| 18:17.49 | Jormungandr | ack |
| 18:17.51 | doughecka | java wont install |
| 18:17.55 | doughecka | etc |
| 18:18.01 | doughecka | its acting funny |
| 18:18.07 | doughecka | time for yearly reformat/install |
| 18:18.09 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:18.10 | Jormungandr | my ip phone needs some work. I can talk, but not hear the other person. |
| 18:18.15 | doughecka | and backup |
| 18:18.18 | captain_proton | Jormungandr: what kind of phone? |
| 18:18.19 | Jormungandr | so I need to open more prots. |
| 18:18.21 | doughecka | ip phone/ |
| 18:18.25 | doughecka | ? |
| 18:18.28 | Jormungandr | cisco 7960 |
| 18:18.33 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 18:18.33 | Jormungandr | SIP |
| 18:18.41 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:18.43 | captain_proton | hah |
| 18:18.48 | captain_proton | cisco ip phones amuse me |
| 18:18.52 | doughecka | one of "those" |
| 18:18.52 | Jormungandr | it's a cute phone :) |
| 18:19.05 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 18:19.55 | captain_proton | my boss has a 7960 |
| 18:19.58 | captain_proton | its got a cute ring |
| 18:20.37 | Jormungandr | I need to go back to cisco's web page and find out the ports I am missing. |
| 18:32.03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:32.09 | doughecka | whats ti look like? |
| 18:32.29 | captain_proton | doughecka: ask Mr. Google |
| 18:32.51 | captain_proton | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=7960+site%3Acisco.com&btnG=Google+Search |
| 18:33.25 | doughecka | oh, those things, they just plug into the network? |
| 18:33.43 | captain_proton | you could READ THE DAMN PAGE instead of asking here |
| 18:34.03 | doughecka | I did |
| 18:40.54 | doughecka | cds required to backup my hard drive... 61 |
| 18:42.55 | fiberchunks | why would you read, when you have such informative protons floating about ;) |
| 18:43.17 | doughecka | fiberchunks: exactly |
| 18:43.22 | doughecka | ~partical of the day |
| 18:43.35 | fiberchunks | I was being facetious doug :\ |
| 18:43.44 | doughecka | ~particle of the day |
| 18:43.48 | | ionized pseudoelectron |
| 18:43.50 | doughecka | fiberchunks: bah |
| 18:54.58 | Patlabor221 | fiber how goes your compile issues? |
| 18:55.11 | Patlabor221 | you can't ionize a sub partice. |
| 18:56.52 | doughecka | thats ibots problem |
| 18:56.56 | doughecka | ~particle of the day |
| 18:56.57 | | neutrino |
| 18:57.05 | doughecka | lame |
| 18:57.54 | Chestal | but what kind of neutrino? |
| 18:58.15 | doughecka | ~particle of the day |
| 18:58.16 | | inverse graviton |
| 18:58.20 | doughecka | woo |
| 18:58.41 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: not well, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't -- seems to be a crap shoot really |
| 19:01.52 | fiberchunks | straight SDL apps from that directory don't seem to have any issues, but SDL / GL apps seem to have problems -- I am completely frickin mystified |
| 19:03.57 | Patlabor221 | very odd |
| 19:04.24 | fiberchunks | indeed -- however, I just recompiled one of the apps, and it worked as it should -- imma run it again and see what happens |
| 19:04.37 | fiberchunks | nothing - blackness -- |
| 19:04.56 | doughecka | ~literal particle of the day |
| 19:04.57 | | particle of the day is <reply> (hyper-charged|charged|super-inverse|inverse|excited|magneto-ionized|ionized| | )( flux | anti-| pseudo| | )(neutron|meson|neutrino|quark|proton|electron|tachyon|graviton|photon|positrino) |
| 19:05.14 | fiberchunks | it's like it works whenever it wants to, and not until it wants to -- perhaps my pc is posessed |
| 19:05.16 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 19:05.35 | Patlabor221 | what card you have again? an Nvidia? |
| 19:05.37 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:05.42 | fiberchunks | y |
| 19:05.47 | Patlabor221 | rather odd |
| 19:05.49 | fiberchunks | gef4 440 go |
| 19:06.07 | doughecka | ugh |
| 19:06.12 | doughecka | ;) |
| 19:06.13 | Patlabor221 | same as a MX then, so not bad |
| 19:06.21 | Patlabor221 | doug that's better then your card. |
| 19:06.33 | doughecka | hah |
| 19:06.38 | doughecka | but its a go card |
| 19:06.41 | doughecka | stuck in a laptop |
| 19:06.51 | doughecka | laptops are terrible at gaming |
| 19:07.00 | Patlabor221 | better then a ati rage mobile |
| 19:07.03 | doughecka | when unplugged at least |
| 19:07.07 | doughecka | Patlabor221: indeed |
| 19:07.10 | Patlabor221 | the GF go is actualy rather nice |
| 19:07.24 | Patlabor221 | it runs better then your desktop system |
| 19:07.37 | doughecka | heh |
| 19:07.37 | Patlabor221 | so I'd suddap |
| 19:08.10 | doughecka | but would a gef4 440 go work as well as a gef4 440 agp version? |
| 19:08.48 | Patlabor221 | they are the same chip, the go just has some power tweaks |
| 19:08.56 | Patlabor221 | the go is AGP |
| 19:08.58 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:09.01 | doughecka | yea |
| 19:09.26 | doughecka | but when its unplugged, doesnt it clock down or something? I read that some video chips do that |
| 19:09.41 | Patlabor221 | depends on the OS setting |
| 19:09.50 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:09.51 | Patlabor221 | APM can declock all kinds of stuff |
| 19:09.57 | doughecka | cool |
| 19:10.00 | Patlabor221 | so it's up to the bios, the OS, and the user. |
| 19:10.54 | Patlabor221 | the 440 go is just tad slower then a 4m x |
| 19:11.07 | Patlabor221 | moslty in fill rate |
| 19:11.11 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:11.30 | doughecka | still, a 4mx is faster than a 2mz |
| 19:11.40 | Patlabor221 | about 120 million texels a sec slower |
| 19:11.42 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:11.51 | Patlabor221 | a 4mx is an upclocked 2mx basicly |
| 19:11.57 | doughecka | oh? |
| 19:11.58 | fiberchunks | and I don't have problems with bzflag or any games, just apps that I compile (note: these apps compiled just fine when I first installed them on this machine) |
| 19:12.04 | doughecka | anything added to it? |
| 19:12.21 | Patlabor221 | fiber what version of SDL did you install? |
| 19:12.28 | Patlabor221 | doug not realy |
| 19:12.30 | fiberchunks | hrm, lemme check |
| 19:12.30 | doughecka | I could slap a hugh heatsink on mine and clock it up to a 4mx? |
| 19:12.38 | doughecka | not I would try |
| 19:12.43 | fiberchunks | 1.2.4 |
| 19:13.08 | Patlabor221 | no the ram and the chip would not make it |
| 19:13.11 | Patlabor221 | it's not just heat |
| 19:13.19 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:13.19 | Patlabor221 | it's timing and interlal arc gaps |
| 19:13.34 | Patlabor221 | the 4's are made to a difrent die spec |
| 19:14.17 | Patlabor221 | fiber 1.2.5 is considerd current stable release |
| 19:14.33 | Patlabor221 | CVS is 1.2.6 |
| 19:14.56 | Patlabor221 | I know openGL bindings to SDL are fairly new to SDL, maybe .4 had issues |
| 19:14.58 | fiberchunks | yah -- but I really don't think it's that -- I think it's more fundamental than that -- some interaction somewhere going bezerk on me |
| 19:15.18 | fiberchunks | well - lemme see if there's an upgrade package available |
| 19:20.22 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: you on a system that's running linux? |
| 19:20.32 | fiberchunks | on X, with all the libs and shite installed? |
| 19:25.34 | fiberchunks | nada, blackness |
| 19:26.53 | sussudio | pigblack? |
| 19:27.12 | sussudio | -|- (ACDC)_Back_In_Black.mp3 (4,070,085 bytes 128kbps Joint Stereo 4mins 15secs Genre:Hard Rock Year:1980 Album:Back In Black |
| 19:28.00 | fiberchunks | man it really irritates me when they release runtime srpms, but not the devel srpms :\ |
| 19:28.17 | sussudio | *cough* debian *cough* |
| 19:31.18 | Patlabor221 | fiber I can be |
| 19:31.23 | Patlabor221 | but I have to go to luchh |
| 19:31.27 | Patlabor221 | be back in about a hour |
| 19:33.44 | fiberchunks | upgrading sdl doesn't help |
| 19:40.30 | Jormungandr | anyone an admin on happypenguin? |
| 19:41.14 | Jormungandr | is a cheater there... "Tellestia" hacked to go as fast as he wants, etc. |
| 19:46.51 | sussudio | haha i scared him off |
| 19:50.09 | scanline | Jormungandr: you could get the server to upgrade, that would prevent speed hacks like that |
| 20:03.07 | Jormungandr | scanline: you'd think such a popular server would do that anyway. :) |
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| 20:38.14 | calico | hi all |
| 20:38.28 | sussudio | lo calipig |
| 20:38.32 | bzgirl | hello calico |
| 20:38.49 | calico | did you join how yet :) |
| 20:38.55 | calico | j/k |
| 20:39.01 | bzgirl | no, i forgot :) |
| 20:39.05 | calico | lol |
| 20:40.12 | Chestal | hmm, I have a new feature idea |
| 20:40.28 | calico | what |
| 20:40.46 | Chestal | let players comment on a server, like you join a server and have a suggestion, so you drop a message for the server admin |
| 20:41.41 | calico | like ~too many flags here~ |
| 20:41.42 | sussudio | hey something weird happened earlier on ducati |
| 20:42.03 | sussudio | someone joined as Nukular, Nukular0 and Nukular1 and a BLUE flag appeared |
| 20:42.26 | Chestal | there is somethign weird about the flags anyway |
| 20:42.35 | Chestal | sometimes, you can track a blue or purple flag in observer mode |
| 20:42.43 | sussudio | hm |
| 20:42.47 | bzgirl | sometimes i see a white flag on ducati |
| 20:43.06 | bzgirl | some times i feel like waving a white flag too :) |
| 20:43.18 | sussudio | that's probably a blueshifted flag cause of your lag |
| 20:43.25 | bzgirl | i dont lag |
| 20:43.37 | sussudio | yesyoudo |
| 20:43.45 | sussudio | not as much as CapN, but still |
| 20:44.15 | bzgirl | well, no one else seems to think i do |
| 20:44.24 | Chestal | everyone lags, more or less |
| 20:44.40 | Chestal | even I lag on my own server |
| 20:44.46 | Chestal | though it's not noticeable |
| 20:45.14 | sussudio | yesterday i saw someone disappear and then launch at 4 or 5x normal speed |
| 20:46.06 | calico | i have a question |
| 20:46.17 | sussudio | the answer is: "Ham" |
| 20:48.43 | calico | nevermind i figured it out |
| 20:49.07 | calico | well dmp did for me |
| 20:50.07 | sussudio | did the question involve harpooning whales? |
| 20:50.25 | [dmp] | Chestal: I've disabled the kill-ratio ladder calculation for ducati:5156 - to avoid people getting to focused on the ratio. |
| 20:50.52 | sussudio | the what? |
| 20:52.01 | Chestal | dmp: yep, jsut read about it |
| 20:53.18 | [dmp] | I guess i need to finish the ctf-ladder soon, before people begin to hunt me :-) |
| 20:55.39 | sussudio | that's be an option... put a big fat arrow over the current 'winner' |
| 20:56.04 | sussudio | sssh i'm huntin dmp's |
| 20:57.50 | [dmp] | ~ducati6 |
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| 21:25.13 | calico | ~ducatictf |
| 21:29.01 | Chestal | ~ducati6 |
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| 21:45.04 | Chestal | ~ducati6 |
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| 22:34.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 22:34.54 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 22:35.35 | Chestal | hmm, why is src/net/network.cxx in extern "C"? |
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| 22:47.26 | TimRiker | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/bzflag/bzflag/src/net/network.cxx?annotate=1.8.2.8 |
| 22:47.40 | TimRiker | don't know. looks like it's always been that way since I joined. |
| 22:48.06 | TimRiker | it's not very object oriented is it? might be from back in the days that crs converted the game from C. |
| 22:48.25 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~Cell@pD9E50EF5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:48.46 | Chestal | well, it's now using std::vector and stuff |
| 22:50.59 | TimRiker | yeah, I hear ya. |
| 22:51.16 | TimRiker | what happens if you just remove the extern stuff? |
| 22:51.38 | Chestal | didn't dare to, yet |
| 22:51.47 | Chestal | the only pure C program seems to be bzfrelay |
| 22:51.56 | Chestal | and that is not using the file |
| 22:53.13 | Chestal | Tim: I did a change to the cheat detection stuff, btw.; disabled highspeed check when -a option is uses |
| 22:54.07 | Cell | f(x) = 4x+cos(2x), need f^-1(x) plz? |
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| 22:58.14 | scanline | Cell: I thought you were the math genius? |
| 22:59.34 | Cell | oh, i know the soulution its a test |
| 22:59.47 | Patlabor221 | fiber you here? |
| 23:00.03 | [TeA|TrEE] | night |
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| 23:00.27 | Cell | i write some test exercises for undergraduate students |
| 23:00.40 | Cell | and they should not be that hard |
| 23:01.14 | Chestal | hmm, it loosk a bit strange, some WIn/!WIn ifdefs |
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| 23:01.44 | Chestal | guess I won't touch it for now :-) |
| 23:03.27 | Cell | whats d/dx arcsin(sqrt((1+x^2)/(1-x^2))) |
| 23:03.43 | Cell | lol |
| 23:05.54 | Cell | whats greater pi^eps or eps^pi? |
| 23:06.26 | Chestal | what's eps? |
| 23:06.38 | doughecka | hah |
| 23:06.47 | Cell | e is 2,7... |
| 23:07.07 | doughecka | electronic post script |
| 23:07.48 | Chestal | you mean "embedded perl script' |
| 23:08.05 | Cell | e = lim(n->00)(1+1/n)^n = 2.71828.... |
| 23:10.10 | scanline | wow, Cell's more annoying than bzdoug |
| 23:11.10 | doughecka | Chestal: yea |
| 23:12.06 | TimRiker | Chestal: yeah, I noticed. nice to see that someone uses -a ;-) |
| 23:12.07 | Cell | a cheap fast earning points exercise: curl(grad(f(x,y,z)) = ? |
| 23:12.50 | TimRiker | what's Piggy for? |
| 23:13.02 | doughecka | TimRiker: sussudios bot |
| 23:13.04 | Piggy | ~piggy |
| 23:13.06 | Chestal | Tim: I thought I'd try something new, noone seems to like it, though :-) |
| 23:13.10 | doughecka | TimRiker: spams alot |
| 23:13.17 | Piggy | shut up doug |
| 23:13.21 | doughecka | see? |
| 23:13.31 | TimRiker | serve any useful purpose? ibot the the official bot here. |
| 23:13.34 | doughecka | nope |
| 23:13.37 | doughecka | nothing at all |
| 23:13.43 | Piggy | DONT MAKE ME KILL YOU DOUG |
| 23:13.49 | Cell | lol |
| 23:13.55 | Piggy | i already told you piggy logs. |
| 23:14.06 | Cell | lol^2 |
| 23:14.24 | doughecka | ibot does logs |
| 23:14.32 | doughecka | why we need 2 bots with logs? |
| 23:14.37 | TimRiker | and daily stats now. ;-) |
| 23:14.41 | TimRiker | ~logs |
| 23:14.45 | doughecka | cool |
| 23:14.49 | TimRiker | ~log |
| 23:14.52 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 23:14.54 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:15.01 | TimRiker | ibot: logs? |
| 23:15.11 | TimRiker | ibot: reload |
| 23:15.11 | | reloading... |
| 23:15.11 | | reloaded. |
| 23:15.45 | Piggy | why do we need doug or cell in here? |
| 23:15.51 | Chestal | Tim: the fact that ducatictf is now bound to port 59999 has causes some confusion, it pointed to 5156 earlier |
| 23:16.03 | doughecka | why do we need sussudio? |
| 23:16.09 | doughecka | ~log |
| 23:16.10 | Cell | Piggy: shut up |
| 23:16.14 | doughecka | ~logs |
| 23:16.19 | doughecka | huh |
| 23:16.30 | Piggy | Cell: esse scheisse |
| 23:16.39 | Cell | ha |
| 23:16.44 | Cell | lol |
| 23:17.10 | *** join/#bzflag jraitala (cheesus@jraitala-dsl.oulu.fi) |
| 23:17.28 | doughecka | fi? |
| 23:17.32 | doughecka | ~country .fi |
| 23:17.32 | | well, country .fi is finland |
| 23:17.35 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:19.48 | *** join/#bzflag ibot (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 23:19.48 | *** topic/#bzflag is Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ |
| 23:19.48 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 23:19.50 | TimRiker | ~logs |
| 23:19.51 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 23:20.14 | doughecka | cool |
| 23:20.21 | doughecka | more like WHO broke ibot |
| 23:20.21 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:20.44 | Piggy | blootbots break themselves |
| 23:21.01 | doughecka | thanks spam, er, pig |
| 23:21.06 | doughecka | Piggy = spam |
| 23:21.17 | TimRiker | ~seen sussudio |
| 23:21.17 | | sussudio <Suss@d51132f1.cable.wanadoo.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 25m 13s ago, saying: 'sssh i'm huntin dmp's'. |
| 23:21.42 | doughecka | its sussudio pulling Piggys strings |
| 23:21.53 | Chestal | Tim: I made it query ducati 5156 earlier |
| 23:22.13 | Chestal | Tim: not sure if that broke it, but: misc/bzfquery.pl repeatedly choked on that server |
| 23:22.24 | TimRiker | Chestal: huh? if looked like all the methods were working, but factoid lookup was broken. |
| 23:22.25 | Chestal | Tim: it spewed out a player list and died righ tbefore the last player |
| 23:22.34 | Piggy | why dont you get a girlfriend, doug? or a boyfriend, or whatever. |
| 23:22.45 | doughecka | see? |
| 23:22.46 | TimRiker | what died? ibot left? |
| 23:22.52 | *** kick/#BZFlag [Piggy!timr@rikers.org] by TimRiker (TimRiker) |
| 23:22.53 | *** join/#bzflag Piggy (Ferret@d5113256.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 23:22.56 | Chestal | no, bzfquery |
| 23:23.02 | Piggy | wtf |
| 23:23.07 | Chestal | no idea if this is in any way connected to ibot's illness |
| 23:23.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.cable.wanadoo.nl] by TimRiker |
| 23:23.10 | *** kick/#BZFlag [Piggy!timr@rikers.org] by TimRiker (TimRiker) |
| 23:23.16 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.159) |
| 23:23.27 | doughecka | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 23:23.38 | Chestal | hi MAC |
| 23:23.52 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 23:24.05 | TimRiker | looks ok to me. |
| 23:24.10 | Chestal | yes, now |
| 23:24.17 | Chestal | but earlier it choked |
| 23:24.25 | doughecka | you got a log he could look at? |
| 23:24.42 | TimRiker | I can look in ibot's logs... looking... |
| 23:24.50 | Chestal | I wanted to login with bzflag to check who was the missing player, but I haven't got DRI working here, and so the client was abysmally slow |
| 23:25.44 | doughecka | how hard would it be to setup ibot to chat with people on bzflags servers? |
| 23:26.34 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 23:26.45 | TimRiker | Chestal: I don't see anything abnormal in the logs. |
| 23:27.02 | doughecka | could connect as a spec, and could stream all chat messages to a particular user, or a channel if a op told it to |
| 23:27.26 | TimRiker | doughecka: would mean ibot would be a player on the server (probably an observer) |
| 23:27.35 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:27.39 | doughecka | but thats not possible? |
| 23:27.42 | Chestal | Tim: well, bzfquery died, and I have seen t before. Will check next time |
| 23:27.54 | TimRiker | sure. does not sound like something I want to do though. |
| 23:28.01 | doughecka | oh |
| 23:28.06 | doughecka | "patches welcome" |
| 23:28.09 | doughecka | etc etc |
| 23:28.15 | TimRiker | Chestal: what's the death look like? |
| 23:28.31 | simplex_insect | cool lot of german software firms move to bratislava |
| 23:29.05 | Chestal | Tim: don't remember, it prints the player list, and right before the last player it said something like '... died at line xxx' |
| 23:29.21 | TimRiker | Chestal: up till a few days ago I noticed that ibot might be missing players from the list. I fixed that in blootbot. |
| 23:29.26 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 23:29.37 | doughecka | ~jzaun |
| 23:29.56 | doughecka | ~noodleroni |
| 23:31.12 | TimRiker | ibot should sort the players. ;-) patches welcome. |
| 23:31.12 | | TimRiker: no idea |
| 23:31.17 | TimRiker | heh |
| 23:31.21 | Chestal | yep, sorting wuld be nice |
| 23:31.22 | MrApathyCream | maybe we should consider |
| 23:31.24 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~3v1ln00dl@bc176248.bendcable.com) |
| 23:31.27 | MrApathyCream | std::map<int, PlayerInfo> |
| 23:31.29 | MrApathyCream | in bzfs |
| 23:31.40 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: why? |
| 23:31.46 | Chestal | what is the key? |
| 23:31.52 | MrApathyCream | playerid |
| 23:32.07 | MrApathyCream | so we remove wholes in the list, and autodelete PlayerInfo's and hopefully call dtors |
| 23:32.10 | scanline | ~sci-fi of the day |
| 23:32.11 | | It's some kind of inverse flux graviton inversion field in the construct, ensign spock |
| 23:32.11 | MrApathyCream | when palyers leave |
| 23:32.24 | doughecka | scanline: cool |
| 23:32.30 | doughecka | ~sci-fi of the day |
| 23:32.30 | | It's some kind of magneto-ionized flux photon reflection generator in 10-forward, captain spock |
| 23:32.31 | Noodleman | in soviet russia, the beowulf cluster imagines YOU! |
| 23:32.33 | Chestal | MAC: hmm, don't think this is a good idea |
| 23:32.39 | MrApathyCream | cause? |
| 23:32.39 | doughecka | Noodleman! greetings |
| 23:32.44 | Chestal | MAC: aslthough I am not too familiar with the current management of the player array |
| 23:32.45 | Noodleman | lo doug |
| 23:32.47 | Noodleman | sup? |
| 23:32.53 | doughecka | backing up |
| 23:33.02 | doughecka | and reformating after I backup |
| 23:33.08 | Chestal | the array isn't very sparse |
| 23:33.13 | doughecka | and reinstalling XP after the reformat |
| 23:33.18 | Noodleman | ah |
| 23:33.23 | Chestal | and array is significantly faster than map |
| 23:33.28 | MrApathyCream | no, but i want to insure that the dtors get called when players leave |
| 23:33.36 | MrApathyCream | which would happen |
| 23:33.36 | TimRiker | scanline: that's one twisted factoid. ;-) |
| 23:33.49 | Chestal | if we remove the player from the map |
| 23:33.55 | scanline | TimRiker: it would be cooler if the ()? operator worked right, and factoids had something like the `` operator |
| 23:33.56 | doughecka | all star trek? |
| 23:34.00 | Chestal | we can now call a function which does the same |
| 23:34.19 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: hmm, it's a plain array |
| 23:34.24 | TimRiker | scanline: patches welcome. ;-) |
| 23:34.26 | MrApathyCream | you leave a ghost player there |
| 23:34.33 | scanline | TimRiker: :) |
| 23:34.36 | MrApathyCream | which apparently is problemati |
| 23:34.43 | Chestal | MrApathyCream: yes, but where is the difference between calling a cleanup function or removing item from map? |
| 23:34.59 | TimRiker | RSN we'll break net and I'll change playerid to playerindex. |
| 23:34.59 | Chestal | it#s not the data structure which is the problem, it's the program logic |
| 23:35.02 | Noodleman | doughecka: distcc is a neat tool |
| 23:35.02 | MrApathyCream | if you remove, the dtor is called, if you do cleanup... when you have to be careful |
| 23:35.12 | Noodleman | doughecka: every heard of it? |
| 23:35.19 | Chestal | yes, things will hopefulyl get less messy with protocol breaking release |
| 23:35.21 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: yes, agreed, but ctor/dtors enforce it for us |
| 23:35.22 | doughecka | Noodleman: nope |
| 23:35.25 | doughecka | Noodleman: windows? |
| 23:35.32 | Noodleman | http://distcc.samba.org/ |
| 23:35.42 | Noodleman | it might run it cygwin |
| 23:35.42 | doughecka | hm |
| 23:35.53 | MrApathyCream | If you guys wanna release g2 as is, and fix it in x0, that's fine by me |
| 23:35.55 | doughecka | COOL! |
| 23:36.00 | MrApathyCream | but.... i'm guessing that's not what you want to do |
| 23:36.03 | doughecka | too bad I have only 2 linux boxes |
| 23:36.04 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:36.05 | Chestal | I'd say we feature freeze CVS? |
| 23:36.12 | doughecka | and only compile bzflag on windows anyway |
| 23:36.12 | Chestal | although,one issue |
| 23:36.16 | Noodleman | two heads are beter than one :-) |
| 23:36.18 | MrApathyCream | hwh |
| 23:36.20 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 23:36.25 | doughecka | Noodleman: heh |
| 23:36.28 | Chestal | I'd still liek to be able to issue /countdown without admin privileges |
| 23:36.30 | Patlabor221 | how is the CLOSE_WAIT issue? |
| 23:36.39 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: still there |
| 23:36.41 | Noodleman | i've got 3 compiling garnome right now |
| 23:36.47 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: thus my comments |
| 23:36.54 | doughecka | Noodleman: garnome? |
| 23:37.02 | Noodleman | just a sec |
| 23:37.20 | Noodleman | http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/ |
| 23:37.27 | Chestal | what exactly is the close wait problem? sockets in CLOSE_WAIT causing bzfs to poll the socket? |
| 23:37.37 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:37.43 | TimRiker | Chestal: it just leaks filehandles now. |
| 23:37.44 | doughecka | I should upgrade my debian to gnome 2 |
| 23:37.56 | Noodleman | download garnome and compile it :-) |
| 23:38.08 | doughecka | I would like it to be stable |
| 23:38.09 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:38.13 | Noodleman | do you have unstable? |
| 23:38.18 | doughecka | no |
| 23:38.25 | doughecka | woody I think |
| 23:38.28 | Noodleman | i think gnome 2 is only in unstable |
| 23:38.35 | Noodleman | yeah, you have stable |
| 23:38.38 | doughecka | and I have a debian mirror at the local uni |
| 23:38.43 | TimRiker | xmission has no leaked fhs at present though. |
| 23:38.46 | doughecka | Noodleman: hmm |
| 23:39.07 | Chestal | well, some sockets in close_wat state are to be expected I guess |
| 23:39.19 | Chestal | but they should not block file handles |
| 23:39.32 | TimRiker | it does not happen often, and it does not seem to cause the server to eat cpu anymore, so perhaps it's release time? |
| 23:39.40 | Noodleman | i've always got lots of sockets in close_wait, i thought it was normal :-) |
| 23:39.51 | MrApathyCream | woowoo |
| 23:39.51 | Chestal | Tim: I'd liek to test the curent code a little |
| 23:40.02 | Chestal | is xmissin running current code? |
| 23:40.06 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: yes |
| 23:40.08 | doughecka | MrApathyCream: woo woo yourself |
| 23:40.09 | TimRiker | close_wait sockets need the local app to call close() that should happen very soon. |
| 23:40.15 | Noodleman | w00w00w00 |
| 23:40.30 | doughecka | \/\/00\/\/00 |
| 23:40.31 | TimRiker | Chestal: yes. I keep xmission up to date |
| 23:41.22 | Chestal | ducati 5156 is running early g1 right now because some people imagned to see lag problems |
| 23:41.29 | Chestal | plan to switch to curent CVS ASAP |
| 23:41.34 | doughecka | wow, c:\program files\trillian = 25 megs |
| 23:41.38 | doughecka | all log files |
| 23:42.11 | Chestal | IMHO we should wait at least 1 or 2 days, there've been several code changes yesterday and today |
| 23:42.28 | calico | ~ducati6 |
| 23:42.43 | calico | wow |
| 23:43.05 | [dmp] | Guess you need to do something else, calico :-) |
| 23:43.08 | MrApathyCream | did sussudio really get banned? sheesh i miss all the hot stuff |
| 23:43.19 | doughecka | MrApathyCream: hahaha |
| 23:43.41 | Noodleman | what did he do to get banned? |
| 23:44.01 | doughecka | Noodleman: bots |
| 23:44.22 | Noodleman | was he bugging people with them? |
| 23:44.51 | doughecka | you could say that |
| 23:44.52 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:47.30 | Chestal | Tim: so, any suggestions on my /countdown problem? Right now I'd have to share the server password with everyone |
| 23:47.46 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: if he kills Piggy, then he's welcome back. |
| 23:48.07 | *** mode/#bzflag [-bbb xx*!*@* xxx*!*@* xxxxxxxxxxxxx!*@*] by TimRiker |
| 23:48.07 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!*@chat.ircnet.org] by TimRiker |
| 23:48.09 | doughecka | TimRiker: piggy also spams #debian |
| 23:48.18 | doughecka | TimRiker: like it needs more |
| 23:48.44 | doughecka | hah |
| 23:48.45 | Noodleman | ssssnnnnnnrrrrkkkkk |
| 23:49.12 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*@*.cable.wanadoo.nl] by TimRiker |
| 23:49.27 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b Piggy!*@*.cable.wanadoo.nl] by TimRiker |
| 23:49.37 | TimRiker | better? |
| 23:49.40 | doughecka | +o doughecka |
| 23:49.48 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:51.32 | TimRiker | so sussudio should be able to get in now, just the bot is banned. |
| 23:51.43 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:51.54 | doughecka | exept pig_gy |
| 23:52.04 | doughecka | and everyother combination... :) |
| 23:52.12 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!Ferret@*.cable.wanadoo.nl] by TimRiker |
| 23:53.27 | Chestal | well, I have to go to bed |
| 23:53.31 | TimRiker | nite |
| 23:53.35 | doughecka | cya |
| 23:53.57 | Chestal | my thought on g2: give it at least 2 days of testing without code changes, and I mus tsolve my /countdown issue :-) |
| 23:54.46 | doughecka | ~doughecka |
| 23:54.46 | | OP DOUGHECKA!!! |
| 23:55.02 | Patlabor221 | what good would that do? |
| 23:55.14 | doughecka | give people strokes |
| 23:55.29 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 23:55.43 | Patlabor221 | ~seen fiberhunks |
| 23:55.44 | | Patlabor221: i haven't seen 'fiberhunks' |
| 23:55.49 | Patlabor221 | ~seen fiberchunks |
| 23:55.50 | | fiberchunks is currently on #bzflag |
| 23:55.50 | Noodleman | lol |
| 23:56.01 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:56.13 | doughecka | where does XP store my address book? |
| 23:56.17 | fiberchunks | here I am -- why are my ears burning |
| 23:56.19 | Noodleman | doug does everything i do |
| 23:56.22 | Patlabor221 | in your profile |
| 23:56.23 | Noodleman | it concerns me |
| 23:56.26 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 23:56.28 | doughecka | fiberchunks: lol |
| 23:56.36 | doughecka | Patlabor221: lookin.... |
| 23:56.37 | Patlabor221 | fiber phpbb roxors |
| 23:56.53 | doughecka | hah |
| 23:57.05 | fiberchunks | yes, it does -- it's good software -- why, did you install it somewhere? |
| 23:57.10 | Patlabor221 | yes I did |
| 23:57.19 | fiberchunks | on asgard? |
| 23:57.24 | Patlabor221 | http://ragnarok.bakadigital.com/bb/ |
| 23:57.28 | Patlabor221 | no on rag |
| 23:57.33 | Patlabor221 | rag is firewalled now |
| 23:58.08 | fiberchunks | cool -- spacepilot3k was my other choice for theme -- on second thought, I should've installed that theme instead of Cobalt |
| 23:58.17 | TimRiker | Chestal: I'd take a command line arg to enable/disable anonymous /countdown. |
| 23:58.29 | Patlabor221 | rag is all happy now, so there should be 2 baka bz servers now |
| 23:58.38 | fiberchunks | good deal |
| 23:58.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [-v doughecka] by TimRiker |
| 23:59.02 | doughecka | I told it to export my address book, but it just did it and did not tell me where it put it |
| 23:59.03 | Patlabor221 | fiber: ohh I'm still playing with the themes. space is just the default. |
| 23:59.19 | Patlabor221 | doug, go ask in #primaryDevPlat |
| 23:59.29 | fiberchunks | wha? that's the new default? where'd you get phpbb from? |
| 23:59.39 | Patlabor221 | no it's my default |
| 23:59.52 | Patlabor221 | the norm is the white one |
| 23:59.52 | fiberchunks | ah - had me worried for a minute ;) |
| 23:59.58 | fiberchunks | yah, subsilver |