| 00:00.29 | MrApathyCream | wow this is munged up. (munged: A reference to a Mac call that could do almost anything, but usually not what you wanted) |
| 00:01.08 | Patlabor221 | yes it usualy knarfed up stuff |
| 00:01.33 | MrApathyCream | Thus the phrase: You really munged that up |
| 00:06.11 | MrApathyCream | WOW i don't get it! |
| 00:07.27 | sussudio | why doesnt windows have symlinks :-P |
| 00:09.54 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: can you look at the latest menus.cxx? |
| 00:11.08 | TimRiker | ~spell inititive |
| 00:11.10 | | possible spellings for inititive: intuitive initiative imitative unintuitive initiatives unitive notative infinitive inhibitive |
| 00:11.16 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: need help |
| 00:11.27 | TimRiker | I do or you do? ;-) |
| 00:11.32 | MrApathyCream | I do |
| 00:11.36 | MrApathyCream | menus.cxx |
| 00:11.38 | TimRiker | sup? |
| 00:11.43 | MrApathyCream | Help1Menu |
| 00:11.59 | MrApathyCream | compare constructor list push_backs |
| 00:12.05 | MrApathyCream | to Help1Menu resize keys |
| 00:12.16 | MrApathyCream | BzfKeyMap::SlowKeyboardMotion, |
| 00:12.16 | MrApathyCream | BzfKeyMap::ToggleMainFlags, |
| 00:12.16 | MrApathyCream | BzfKeyMap::ToggleRadarFlags, |
| 00:12.16 | MrApathyCream | BzfKeyMap::ChooseSilence |
| 00:12.22 | MrApathyCream | don't seem to correlate |
| 00:12.58 | MrApathyCream | (i'm getting a address error crash, cause i walk off the list) |
| 00:13.39 | MrApathyCream | is it just that they're missing? |
| 00:13.57 | TimRiker | when did it start? |
| 00:14.04 | MrApathyCream | just last few days |
| 00:14.17 | MrApathyCream | These items are in the KeyboardMapMenu instead |
| 00:14.48 | TimRiker | yep, /me sees the same thing. |
| 00:15.17 | MrApathyCream | are they sposed to be in the Help1Menu or the Keyboard menu or both? |
| 00:15.23 | TimRiker | 3 new keys were added, but no help was done for them. needs to be done. |
| 00:15.45 | TimRiker | looks for SlowKeyboardMotion, that used to be the last one. |
| 00:16.18 | TimRiker | oh your cvs question.... cvs diff -r v1_7 -D "2 weeks ago" should do it. if not, reverse the order of -r and -D |
| 00:16.29 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 00:16.50 | MrApathyCream | so are these new items supposed to be in Help1Menu AND keyboardmenu? |
| 00:17.06 | MrApathyCream | Seems odd that SlowMotionKeyboard ISN"T there either, tho it's old |
| 00:22.05 | ElectricElf | SlowMotionKeyboard... |
| 00:22.09 | TimRiker | hmm Help1Menu should have all the new keys. I don't know why slowkeyboard etc are not there. |
| 00:22.21 | TimRiker | if you add new entries does the crash go away? |
| 00:22.27 | MrApathyCream | attempting |
| 00:24.23 | MrApathyCream | ElectricElf: allows driving at half speed while using keys to drive |
| 00:24.53 | ElectricElf | MrApathyCream: Yeah. |
| 00:25.07 | ElectricElf | MrApathyCream: I vaguely recall noticing that and really liking it, but I don't remember how to reproduce it :) |
| 00:25.12 | ElectricElf | Should take a look again, now that you've reminded me. |
| 00:25.24 | MrApathyCream | A key i think by default |
| 00:25.29 | MrApathyCream | 'a' |
| 00:25.35 | ElectricElf | Cool. |
| 00:27.14 | MrApathyCream | wow things are still fubar'ed here |
| 00:27.26 | MrApathyCream | bbias |
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| 00:33.50 | TimRiker | committed. |
| 00:35.34 | TimRiker | ~spell tactful |
| 00:35.34 | | 'tactful' may be spelled correctly |
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| 00:39.52 | TimRiker | hey M_A_C, meet MrApathyCream |
| 00:40.25 | M_A_C | lo |
| 00:40.47 | M_A_C | that seems to fix it |
| 00:41.03 | M_A_C | did you check in a fix? |
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| 00:47.27 | TimRiker | yes |
| 00:51.34 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 00:51.37 | MrApathyCream | good |
| 00:53.13 | MrApathyCream | patches welcome for key help |
| 00:53.18 | MrApathyCream | screen to big |
| 00:56.39 | TimRiker | try that... |
| 00:58.02 | MrApathyCream | checking |
| 00:59.35 | MrApathyCream | nice just smaller font? looks good |
| 00:59.44 | MrApathyCream | course with bigger message area :) |
| 01:01.07 | TimRiker | yeah, menu code needs work to auto repaginate. |
| 01:01.17 | TimRiker | looks bad at 256x192 |
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| 01:05.04 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 01:05.20 | MrApathyCream | good idea |
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| 01:09.30 | michaelh20 | don't all talk at once |
| 01:14.38 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.54 | michaelh20 | whitespace doesn't count |
| 01:16.14 | michaelh20 | (the sound of silence) |
| 01:16.53 | MrApathyCream | _ |
| 01:22.00 | MrApathyCream | michaelh20: do you really play without flags on radar/hud? |
| 01:23.33 | michaelh20 | I flip them off and on |
| 01:23.50 | michaelh20 | I get my flag, and then I flip them off |
| 01:24.13 | michaelh20 | then I have to flip them on when I want to find my flag |
| 01:24.20 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 01:24.21 | michaelh20 | really mostly radar is where I do it |
| 01:24.27 | MrApathyCream | crazy |
| 01:24.39 | michaelh20 | Sometimes you can't see anything on the radar except flags |
| 01:25.33 | michaelh20 | and turning them off shows the whole map clearly |
| 01:26.20 | michaelh20 | so if I have a flag and a plan, then I can flip them off and not be distracted by them |
| 01:26.45 | michaelh20 | I was thinking of some auto mode where when you respawn they are always on |
| 01:26.59 | michaelh20 | and when you grab a flag they go off after some time |
| 01:27.09 | michaelh20 | but I don't think that quite works |
| 01:27.36 | MrApathyCream | well certainly not with (ID) |
| 01:27.37 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 01:27.58 | michaelh20 | Well even though you don't see them you can pick them up :) |
| 01:28.08 | michaelh20 | which is weird |
| 01:28.39 | michaelh20 | my default keys are G and g too, which is closer than H and J |
| 01:28.49 | michaelh20 | for me at least |
| 01:30.26 | michaelh20 | I think he probably like the silence improvements more than the flag toggle thing ... |
| 01:30.53 | michaelh20 | although that feature doesn't get much practical use in real life I suppose |
| 01:31.16 | michaelh20 | But I can silence Captain Underpants and he will remain that way forever :) |
| 01:33.03 | sussudio | you think? |
| 01:33.48 | michaelh20 | hope so |
| 01:33.55 | sussudio | a-ha! |
| 01:34.08 | michaelh20 | haven't seem him around for quite some time though |
| 01:34.28 | sussudio | you haven't? |
| 01:34.36 | michaelh20 | no have you? |
| 01:34.45 | sussudio | hm wait let me see |
| 01:34.48 | sussudio | yes i have |
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| 01:34.57 | michaelh20 | nice fellow isn't he |
| 01:35.03 | sussudio | indeed |
| 01:36.21 | sussudio | too bad someone felt the need to abuse the callsign...... a faker |
| 01:36.51 | michaelh20 | how on earth could someone make him worse than he already is? |
| 01:37.09 | sussudio | you dont get it, do you |
| 01:37.50 | sussudio | i'm thinking it was dervish doing to faking. |
| 01:38.48 | michaelh20 | you mean all the time? |
| 01:38.54 | sussudio | no |
| 01:39.14 | sussudio | just enough to blemish the nick |
| 01:39.15 | CAPPY353 | hello all |
| 01:39.20 | michaelh20 | greetings |
| 01:39.32 | sussudio | eh lagsalot? |
| 01:41.06 | michaelh20 | who me.. |
| 01:41.07 | sussudio | i dont think spiff could pretend to be anyone else...... you'd notice by his lag, that and him not being able to shut up for more than 2 mins |
| 01:41.35 | michaelh20 | I'm going to change my nick to Sir Lagsalot Von Mpls :) |
| 01:41.54 | michaelh20 | Groebers crabs at me because he used to use that nick before |
| 01:42.29 | sussudio | i play less and less on ffa servers |
| 01:42.36 | sussudio | damn noobs. |
| 01:43.14 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 01:43.29 | TimRiker | heh xmission rox. ;-) |
| 01:43.41 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: What's the g2 plan? |
| 01:44.54 | TimRiker | ship it. uh.. as soon as it's ready. ;-) |
| 01:45.05 | sussudio | can someone either fix the fontsize in the messagewindow or make it configurable in cvs? i have to squint to be able to read it |
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| 01:45.22 | TimRiker | sussudio: using large fonts in the gui setup? |
| 01:45.26 | sussudio | yes |
| 01:45.38 | TimRiker | what screen res? and o=1 or not? |
| 01:45.41 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: you waitin' for anything? |
| 01:46.00 | TimRiker | Tryin to fix the fh leakage. |
| 01:46.17 | sussudio | radar all the way big and opacity = 0 |
| 01:46.30 | sussudio | 1 even |
| 01:47.08 | TimRiker | ahh. yeah. I think msg fron size should take vertical into consideration. |
| 01:47.10 | MrApathyCream | when we realloc a new one, can we cleanly kill the old one? |
| 01:47.12 | sussudio | resolution800x600 @100Hz 32 bits |
| 01:47.13 | sussudio | panelopacity1.000000 |
| 01:47.20 | sussudio | bigfontyes |
| 01:47.31 | sussudio | radarsize10 |
| 01:47.33 | TimRiker | on large displays there is more msg area than there are lines in the msg buffer. |
| 01:47.42 | sussudio | :-| |
| 01:48.56 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/bigradar1.gif |
| 01:48.57 | TimRiker | looks readable to me at those settings, but it looks like there could be 3 more lines of text |
| 01:49.13 | sussudio | it'd be easy to fit if the font was bigger |
| 01:49.39 | TimRiker | 2 close_waits on xmission now. |
| 01:50.14 | MrApathyCream | how does one detect this situation (in code) |
| 01:50.17 | TimRiker | 21 open handles. |
| 01:50.36 | TimRiker | poll would give handle stats on unix, not sure if that works on win* |
| 01:51.05 | TimRiker | thing is I don't think that the handles are in a player struct anymore, I think the handle got lost. |
| 01:51.44 | TimRiker | could just close() any from 3-n that we don't find, but that's not very nice or portable. |
| 01:52.22 | MrApathyCream | do we know if it's the original port, or reconnect port? |
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| 01:54.04 | TimRiker | I suspect the original port, but have not been able to confirm. |
| 01:56.13 | michaelh20 | What would the official line be about posting code for cheating clients? |
| 01:56.24 | michaelh20 | I would tend -- not to... |
| 01:56.45 | TimRiker | michaelh20: official line is: don't post cheat binaries without code. |
| 01:57.00 | michaelh20 | for example we have an .exe that can only access one server for example |
| 01:57.16 | michaelh20 | wouldn't that do less harm than a patch that others can use? |
| 01:57.17 | TimRiker | post code and binaries if you like, we ask that they are modified to not work with normal servers like bzflag:zero |
| 01:58.01 | michaelh20 | I use a pretty simple check if the text matches routine, do I need to lobotomize bzflag |
| 01:58.06 | michaelh20 | nwould that be better? :) |
| 01:58.21 | TimRiker | however the code is GPLed, so modified clients of any sort are legal, but perhaps not appretiated ;-) |
| 01:58.52 | TimRiker | bzflag:zero sets an older protocol version. 0.1 or something? |
| 01:59.12 | michaelh20 | and that's a one line change basically isn't it ? |
| 01:59.22 | TimRiker | pretty much, yep. |
| 01:59.42 | michaelh20 | although her tanks aren't flying and passing through things :) |
| 02:00.05 | bzdoug | michaelh20: heh |
| 02:00.09 | TimRiker | flying tanks might get you kicked on current servers. over speed tanks will. |
| 02:00.46 | michaelh20 | Most of the cheats include fast tanks also |
| 02:01.01 | bzdoug | yea |
| 02:02.24 | michaelh20 | sorry to interrupt :) |
| 02:03.17 | bzdoug | lol |
| 02:07.57 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: maybe when we combine ports, the problem will go away :) |
| 02:08.35 | TimRiker | yes, it should change. ;-) |
| 02:08.56 | michaelh20 | so having a little server leakage? |
| 02:09.33 | michaelh20 | perhaps you could just change to Java? :) |
| 02:09.49 | michaelh20 | *big patch* |
| 02:10.06 | bzdoug | HAHAHA |
| 02:10.14 | bzdoug | patches welcome etc etc etc |
| 02:10.26 | michaelh20 | I haven't gotten to the server yet |
| 02:10.30 | michaelh20 | however |
| 02:10.36 | Patlabor221 | hmm sounds like except for the speed boost, zero would work on nomral servers. |
| 02:11.04 | TimRiker | we are not checking shot direction yet, but we should. |
| 02:11.12 | bzdoug | I would like to see zero servers as an option on the regualr servers |
| 02:11.20 | bzdoug | and the clients would then switch |
| 02:11.36 | michaelh20 | I would like to suggest that zero should be a little more bolder in it's changes |
| 02:11.41 | Patlabor221 | with the current versioning system that would be wierd. |
| 02:11.47 | Patlabor221 | it will, it's just a start |
| 02:11.55 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: hmmmmmmmm |
| 02:12.11 | michaelh20 | I'm assuming new flags haven't come out for the regular version because it would break the protocol? |
| 02:12.18 | Patlabor221 | mostly just geting to understand how BZ does stuff, then throwing things. |
| 02:12.39 | michaelh20 | Might help to have a CVS setup somewhere |
| 02:13.02 | michaelh20 | I don't know how easy that i |
| 02:13.04 | Patlabor221 | I have a server for a VCS but I don't have experience seting them up |
| 02:13.04 | michaelh20 | is |
| 02:13.08 | Patlabor221 | yeah me nether |
| 02:13.26 | Patlabor221 | and today I've had some server nastyness |
| 02:13.28 | sussudio | you cant nuke a fellow nato partner |
| 02:13.32 | michaelh20 | Easier that having to download the whole source for a few changes |
| 02:13.36 | Patlabor221 | Baka is full blown down |
| 02:13.37 | sussudio | now kentucky will be nuked back automatically |
| 02:13.55 | bzdoug | sussudio: neither can you |
| 02:13.57 | michaelh20 | We will be forced to Regime Change you |
| 02:14.08 | sussudio | nobody cares about kentucky |
| 02:14.14 | Patlabor221 | not even the US |
| 02:14.24 | sussudio | exactly |
| 02:14.27 | michaelh20 | Disarm disarm! Or else I will lead a coalition of our 2 willing allies |
| 02:14.32 | MrApathyCream | michaelh20: yes (flags) |
| 02:14.37 | Patlabor221 | we'll take fort cambel and say it's in Tennesse and then just nuke the rest of kentucky |
| 02:14.50 | michaelh20 | I would love to see that theif flag in action |
| 02:15.14 | bzdoug | heh |
| 02:15.19 | bzdoug | have "power ups" |
| 02:15.28 | Patlabor221 | I want to have weons |
| 02:15.32 | bzdoug | yea |
| 02:15.33 | sussudio | they have CTP in kentucky |
| 02:15.34 | bzdoug | that too |
| 02:15.35 | Patlabor221 | and ampo |
| 02:15.35 | sussudio | capture the pig |
| 02:15.38 | Patlabor221 | CTC |
| 02:15.45 | bzdoug | WEONS AND AMPO! |
| 02:15.51 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:15.53 | TimRiker | cvs for zero? |
| 02:15.54 | bzdoug | the NEW bzflag!!! |
| 02:15.56 | michaelh20 | gonna make them spin on the ground? |
| 02:15.59 | michaelh20 | n:) |
| 02:16.02 | michaelh20 | :) |
| 02:16.02 | bzdoug | haha |
| 02:16.08 | Patlabor221 | yes Tim I want a CVS for zero |
| 02:16.27 | Patlabor221 | well at the rate it's going,I get mad at the code the more I add stuff. |
| 02:16.33 | TimRiker | I've offered to put zero in main cvs with #ifdefs I'd be happy with a zero fork or even a separate "module". |
| 02:17.00 | Patlabor221 | Tim won't work with the current build system and versioning, been thingking about how to make it work so it could |
| 02:17.09 | michaelh20 | isn't #ifdef kind of icky :) |
| 02:17.17 | Patlabor221 | but I have been thinking about it |
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| 02:17.34 | Patlabor221 | yes it would since I'm tearing up a lot of internals. |
| 02:17.41 | TimRiker | michaelh20: if the alternative is two totally unrelated cvs trees, then ifdefs might (I say might) be a better option. |
| 02:17.42 | Patlabor221 | another module could work |
| 02:17.59 | Patlabor221 | I just don't think #defs would work |
| 02:18.09 | sussudio | CTB! capture the brat |
| 02:18.13 | Patlabor221 | since the version number is in the config |
| 02:18.16 | TimRiker | fine with me. create a module if you like. |
| 02:18.21 | Patlabor221 | and in the DSP for windows |
| 02:18.35 | Patlabor221 | I am keeping that as a very viable option |
| 02:18.55 | Patlabor221 | just have had a bit of real work lately :) |
| 02:19.05 | Patlabor221 | and BakaDigital geting hacked to high hell |
| 02:19.12 | TimRiker | when you use -debug or similar make option the config get's changed. it could change the tag to a zero one at the same time. |
| 02:19.19 | TimRiker | well, not on windows. ;-) |
| 02:19.42 | TimRiker | what's baka running? |
| 02:19.58 | Patlabor221 | asgard.baka is lin |
| 02:20.05 | Patlabor221 | ragnarok was win |
| 02:20.08 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: ask riker why you get link errors? |
| 02:20.11 | michaelh20 | heh |
| 02:20.13 | Patlabor221 | it needs ASP for it's other stuff |
| 02:20.21 | michaelh20 | windows VC++ semi-newbie here :) |
| 02:20.59 | Patlabor221 | Tim: I'm geting link errors in the bzflag project, when a new class in geo trys to use a class in platform |
| 02:21.57 | TimRiker | creating libGeometry.a ? |
| 02:22.23 | TimRiker | or creating the final binary? |
| 02:22.39 | Patlabor221 | the final bin |
| 02:22.47 | MrApathyCream | (only *nix) |
| 02:23.06 | Patlabor221 | ya |
| 02:23.16 | captain_proton | goddamnit |
| 02:23.23 | captain_proton | first they have a fire drill while i'm sleeping |
| 02:23.30 | captain_proton | and now its off and on every few seconds |
| 02:23.39 | bzdoug | hahahahahahahahahah |
| 02:23.43 | captain_proton | ~sud |
| 02:23.44 | | shut up doug |
| 02:24.23 | captain_proton | way to spell |
| 02:24.54 | bzdoug | ja ja ja |
| 02:25.10 | TimRiker | and your class is in libPlatform.a |
| 02:25.14 | MrApathyCream | is it the link order? |
| 02:25.27 | MrApathyCream | class is in platform |
| 02:25.32 | MrApathyCream | and your allocating the object in geo |
| 02:25.50 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.50 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.50 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.50 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.50 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.51 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.53 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.55 | Patlabor221 | plat is first |
| 02:26.01 | MrApathyCream | guess not |
| 02:26.21 | MrApathyCream | works fine in VC, so isn't any obvious mismatch of parm types or anything |
| 02:26.32 | TimRiker | lower libs should be able to use upper libs. |
| 02:26.52 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: is it the class it can't find of the methods, i forget what you said |
| 02:26.58 | MrApathyCream | s/of/or/ |
| 02:27.40 | MrApathyCream | ~VC |
| 02:27.41 | | the BZFlag development platform of choice. |
| 02:28.23 | michaelh20 | ~newbies |
| 02:28.35 | Patlabor221 | it can't find the code for the class |
| 02:28.35 | michaelh20 | hmm |
| 02:29.03 | MrApathyCream | michaelh20: i think you need to do ~newbee |
| 02:29.13 | captain_proton | i think they're testing just how long it takes before i crack and beat the hall director to a pulp |
| 02:29.19 | michaelh20 | ~newbee |
| 02:29.19 | | doug |
| 02:29.27 | michaelh20 | heh |
| 02:30.42 | MrApathyCream | can you do dumplib on libPlatform.a ? |
| 02:30.51 | MrApathyCream | (or equivalent?) |
| 02:33.38 | Patlabor221 | I can't do anyting |
| 02:33.42 | Patlabor221 | 1) baka = down |
| 02:33.47 | Patlabor221 | 2) not at home |
| 02:34.16 | Patlabor221 | you didn't get the code by chance did you? |
| 02:36.04 | Patlabor221 | it's wierd all the libs were built |
| 02:36.13 | Patlabor221 | and the main app can find stuff in Geo |
| 02:36.16 | Patlabor221 | and in plat |
| 02:36.37 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 02:36.56 | Patlabor221 | well I'll have to put it on asgard or artemis then |
| 02:37.35 | MrApathyCream | can't dump *nix libs |
| 02:37.46 | Patlabor221 | well you could have built the win at started uglifyin it |
| 02:37.54 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 02:38.02 | Patlabor221 | yay asgard lives :) |
| 02:38.05 | MrApathyCream | are you done, barring the fact that it doesn't work on nix? |
| 02:38.48 | Patlabor221 | I have that, the hooks into the menu to set my quality global ( that I was hoping you could help with ), and the color thing. and that's it. |
| 02:39.02 | MrApathyCream | cool |
| 02:39.36 | Patlabor221 | tho I think part of the linification will be a change to the model loader, to make it use the bzpath stuff. |
| 02:40.56 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm I may just move the baka main site to the prefered server platform |
| 02:41.56 | Patlabor221 | and run rag and asgard zero servers off the same machine. |
| 02:43.55 | Patlabor221 | does CVS have a "mirror" function? |
| 02:45.28 | Patlabor221 | like if I wanted to host a copy of the SF cvs on a machine that's closer & faster to me |
| 02:46.11 | *** part/#bzflag fiberchunks (~fiberchun@66.236.180.61) |
| 02:46.11 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 02:46.16 | MrApathyCream | dunno |
| 02:46.20 | MrApathyCream | prolly not |
| 02:46.32 | Patlabor221 | I looked around and didn't see one |
| 02:56.18 | bzdoug | SHEEESH! |
| 02:56.32 | bzdoug | my computer wont let me login to the gui with root |
| 02:56.44 | bzdoug | how do I stop Xfree and keep it from rebooting? |
| 02:57.59 | Patlabor221 | it reboots when you start it? |
| 02:58.39 | Patlabor221 | like filickers for a bit then reboots? |
| 02:59.12 | bzdoug | yea |
| 02:59.24 | Patlabor221 | what card is in there? |
| 02:59.56 | bzdoug | its no problem |
| 02:59.56 | sussudio | dougcrap 730 |
| 03:00.05 | Patlabor221 | what card is it? |
| 03:00.06 | bzdoug | the GDM wont let me login as root |
| 03:00.22 | Patlabor221 | what distro |
| 03:00.25 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: onboard junk |
| 03:00.27 | bzdoug | debian |
| 03:00.27 | Patlabor221 | I memember seeing that setting |
| 03:00.30 | bzdoug | yea |
| 03:00.37 | bzdoug | but you need root to change it |
| 03:00.51 | sussudio | so login as root dumbo |
| 03:00.55 | Patlabor221 | doug that flashy stuff usualy happens when X can't set up your vid driver. |
| 03:00.57 | bzdoug | ! |
| 03:01.01 | bzdoug | Patlabor221 |
| 03:01.10 | Patlabor221 | alt shift F1 |
| 03:01.15 | bzdoug | I ihit cntl alt backspace |
| 03:01.23 | sussudio | ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 03:01.23 | Patlabor221 | that kills x |
| 03:01.24 | bzdoug | and it reboots the x server |
| 03:01.26 | Patlabor221 | yeah that |
| 03:01.30 | Patlabor221 | then start X |
| 03:01.37 | bzdoug | cant, it reboots it auto |
| 03:01.49 | bzdoug | I want to kill it and keep it killed |
| 03:01.55 | Patlabor221 | ctrl alt F1 baka |
| 03:01.59 | bzdoug | yea! |
| 03:02.01 | Patlabor221 | that sends you to another term |
| 03:02.04 | bzdoug | yes |
| 03:02.06 | Patlabor221 | not kill X |
| 03:02.07 | sussudio | update-rc.d -f remove gdm |
| 03:02.09 | Patlabor221 | then log in as root |
| 03:02.11 | sussudio | blablablabla |
| 03:02.13 | bzdoug | but I cant have more than 1 xserver running |
| 03:02.13 | Patlabor221 | then startX |
| 03:02.18 | Patlabor221 | why not? |
| 03:02.26 | bzdoug | error |
| 03:02.34 | bzdoug | says the display is being used |
| 03:02.36 | Patlabor221 | of the user type? |
| 03:02.39 | Patlabor221 | baka |
| 03:02.43 | bzdoug | ! |
| 03:02.44 | Patlabor221 | try it |
| 03:02.46 | bzdoug | I did |
| 03:03.05 | Patlabor221 | well then just log in as root in the console and fix your xconfig |
| 03:03.13 | Patlabor221 | cus you seem to have fugged it |
| 03:03.22 | bzdoug | this is how its setup by default |
| 03:03.27 | Patlabor221 | can you start X as a regular user? |
| 03:03.39 | Patlabor221 | then just su to do what you want? |
| 03:03.56 | bzdoug | yea |
| 03:04.01 | Patlabor221 | then do that |
| 03:04.14 | Patlabor221 | why do you need to loginto x as root? |
| 03:04.25 | bzdoug | vi sucks |
| 03:04.26 | Patlabor221 | there is a reason there is a seting for it |
| 03:04.30 | Patlabor221 | use emacs |
| 03:04.41 | bzdoug | no emacs |
| 03:05.01 | Patlabor221 | and why are you using this distro then? is it "better"? |
| 03:05.16 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: its the only one that works on this worthless piece of junk |
| 03:05.56 | bzdoug | it gives an install error |
| 03:06.01 | bzdoug | I ran it twice |
| 03:06.03 | Patlabor221 | when you do what? |
| 03:06.06 | bzdoug | same error |
| 03:06.10 | bzdoug | nothing |
| 03:06.13 | Patlabor221 | what error |
| 03:06.14 | Patlabor221 | when? |
| 03:06.15 | bzdoug | just the install |
| 03:06.18 | bzdoug | I forgot.. :) |
| 03:06.24 | Patlabor221 | did you verify the media? |
| 03:06.39 | Patlabor221 | this may be indicitve of some larget hardware problem you know. |
| 03:07.00 | bzdoug | it installed redhat before |
| 03:07.05 | bzdoug | but I think its the cd-roms |
| 03:07.09 | Patlabor221 | so that means you busted something |
| 03:07.11 | Patlabor221 | what changed? |
| 03:07.15 | bzdoug | new cds |
| 03:07.28 | bzdoug | friend took his cds back and I burned copys of them |
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| 03:07.40 | Patlabor221 | soudns like you didn't copy then right |
| 03:07.45 | Patlabor221 | get ISOS |
| 03:07.49 | Patlabor221 | and burn with nero |
| 03:07.55 | bzdoug | I used nero to make images |
| 03:07.56 | Patlabor221 | all other buring software sucks |
| 03:07.59 | bzdoug | yup |
| 03:08.02 | bzdoug | ok |
| 03:08.06 | bzdoug | give that subject up |
| 03:08.07 | Patlabor221 | FTP install then |
| 03:08.19 | bzdoug | whats a good console text editing program |
| 03:08.26 | Patlabor221 | VI and EMACS |
| 03:08.32 | bzdoug | cant get emacs |
| 03:08.34 | bzdoug | apt-get dont see it |
| 03:08.41 | bzdoug | vi is terrible |
| 03:08.41 | Patlabor221 | then you use VI |
| 03:08.46 | Patlabor221 | learn to deal |
| 03:08.54 | sussudio | apt-get install nano |
| 03:08.55 | bzdoug | bah |
| 03:08.56 | bzdoug | nano? |
| 03:08.58 | Patlabor221 | it's your only real choice at the momoment isn't it |
| 03:09.09 | bzdoug | woo |
| 03:09.11 | bzdoug | its installed |
| 03:09.40 | Patlabor221 | apt-gate me_a_pizza |
| 03:09.53 | bzdoug | apt-get INSTALL me_a_pizza |
| 03:10.00 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 03:10.06 | sussudio | E: package not found |
| 03:10.07 | Patlabor221 | I don't want the pizza installed |
| 03:10.11 | bzdoug | lol |
| 03:10.56 | Patlabor221 | so what did you bust in Xfree config? |
| 03:11.31 | bzdoug | nothing |
| 03:11.46 | Patlabor221 | they why won't X start? |
| 03:12.28 | bzdoug | it does |
| 03:12.37 | bzdoug | but you CANT run 2 x's at the same time |
| 03:12.46 | bzdoug | it runs into each other |
| 03:12.58 | Patlabor221 | tell the second to use another display |
| 03:13.17 | bzdoug | I only have one display! |
| 03:13.31 | Patlabor221 | you don't know what they mean by display do you? |
| 03:13.55 | bzdoug | yea |
| 03:13.55 | Patlabor221 | and has 1 monitor |
| 03:14.09 | bzdoug | but Idont want to change my x settings |
| 03:14.12 | bzdoug | it could break |
| 03:14.15 | Patlabor221 | you don't have to |
| 03:14.30 | Patlabor221 | starx should take params |
| 03:14.36 | bzdoug | dont matter |
| 03:14.58 | Patlabor221 | true, trying to get you to do anything smart is moot. |
| 03:15.13 | Patlabor221 | tho moot can mean arguable |
| 03:15.37 | bzdoug | root moot |
| 03:16.26 | bzdoug | ~dict moot |
| 03:16.55 | Patlabor221 | see you didn't know |
| 03:17.21 | bzdoug | ll |
| 03:17.24 | bzdoug | LOL |
| 03:19.24 | bzdoug | windows windows windows |
| 03:19.52 | Patlabor221 | not that general |
| 03:20.05 | Patlabor221 | the server in question has to be windows |
| 03:20.09 | bzdoug | develepers develepers develepers develepers develepers develepers develepers develepers develepers |
| 03:20.14 | bzdoug | oh |
| 03:20.18 | bzdoug | hmm, .net server |
| 03:20.20 | Patlabor221 | tho I'm going to move some of the sites off |
| 03:20.23 | Patlabor221 | no that's beta |
| 03:21.13 | Patlabor221 | 2k server, or XP pro with IIS installed. |
| 03:21.39 | bzdoug | XP pro! |
| 03:22.26 | bzdoug | or win 98 with apache |
| 03:22.53 | Patlabor221 | apache != ASP |
| 03:23.07 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 03:24.07 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 03:24.09 | bzdoug | wont boot |
| 03:24.17 | Patlabor221 | the machine has to have ASP |
| 03:24.24 | Patlabor221 | what did you change? |
| 03:24.25 | bzdoug | IIS |
| 03:24.42 | bzdoug | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.47 | bzdoug | but I have a backup |
| 03:24.49 | Patlabor221 | dumbass |
| 03:25.03 | Patlabor221 | what did you change |
| 03:25.06 | Patlabor221 | and why? |
| 03:25.34 | bzdoug | to get my new kernel to boot |
| 03:25.54 | bzdoug | added initrd=/initrd.img |
| 03:26.08 | Patlabor221 | didn't work did it? |
| 03:26.38 | bzdoug | nope |
| 03:26.54 | bzdoug | I had to add it to image=/vmlinuz |
| 03:28.02 | Patlabor221 | and what are you gonna do with this wonderus crap machine? |
| 03:28.12 | bzdoug | x terminal |
| 03:28.19 | Patlabor221 | to where? |
| 03:28.43 | bzdoug | my other linux box |
| 03:28.55 | Patlabor221 | your gonna remote X to it? |
| 03:29.36 | bzdoug | yea |
| 03:29.40 | bzdoug | and/or VPN box |
| 03:29.57 | Patlabor221 | then you better work out your multiple X display problem |
| 03:30.07 | Patlabor221 | cus remote X means starting another X |
| 03:30.14 | bzdoug | it does... |
| 03:32.26 | Patlabor221 | a yup |
| 03:32.34 | Patlabor221 | just VNC |
| 04:08.00 | bzdoug | woo woo kernel 2.4.18 |
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| 04:39.00 | bzdoug | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 04:39.08 | Patlabor221 | hello |
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| 08:57.43 | [TeA|TrEE] | moin |
| 08:57.46 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
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| 09:28.48 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | ~ducatictf |
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| 09:30.45 | ElectricElf | ~ducatictf |
| 09:52.24 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | ElectricElf? |
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| 09:53.32 | ElectricElf | [TeA|TrEE]_: Just heading off to bed, what's up? |
| 09:56.25 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | oh |
| 09:56.32 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | justed wanted a litle ducati game |
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| 10:30.23 | bomber | moin |
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| 10:36.46 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 10:36.58 | bomber | hej tea |
| 10:37.00 | [TeA|TrEE] | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:37.05 | [TeA|TrEE] | hey bomber |
| 10:37.13 | [TeA|TrEE] | emty house |
| 10:37.21 | bomber | muhahaa |
| 10:37.33 | [TeA|TrEE] | what |
| 10:38.01 | [TeA|TrEE] | ZzZzZzzzz... want to bz |
| 10:38.07 | bomber | was machst du hier so frueh |
| 10:38.19 | [TeA|TrEE] | hab heut frei |
| 10:38.28 | bomber | aaaah sooo |
| 10:38.37 | [TeA|TrEE] | :oP |
| 10:38.47 | bomber | ich kann jetzt nicht spielen |
| 10:38.52 | [TeA|TrEE] | :o( |
| 10:38.56 | [TeA|TrEE] | ich schau mal rum |
| 10:38.57 | [TeA|TrEE] | bye |
| 10:39.09 | bomber | nbye |
| 10:43.51 | [TeA|TrEE] | bah |
| 10:43.53 | [TeA|TrEE] | nichts los |
| 10:44.45 | bomber | :o)) |
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| 10:54.29 | [TeA|TrEE] | hello dmp |
| 10:55.30 | [dmp] | hi Tea :) |
| 10:55.40 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
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| 14:42.52 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
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| 15:00.23 | Chestal | hi bzg |
| 15:00.52 | bzgirl | hi Ches |
| 15:01.02 | bzgirl | no luck on that quiz :( |
| 15:02.24 | Chestal | #1 still needed |
| 15:02.30 | bzgirl | yup |
| 15:02.54 | Chestal | but at least I got 7 out of 8 this week with your help |
| 15:04.29 | bzgirl | when is it over? friday? |
| 15:05.13 | Chestal | not quite sure, whenever I checked on Monday, there was a new one |
| 15:06.26 | Chestal | bine: hmm, weiß nicht, ob der so sehenswert ist |
| 15:06.27 | Chestal | oops |
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| 15:12.08 | prodan | hi folks |
| 15:12.32 | bzgirl | hello |
| 15:12.43 | prodan | question: how do i find out which process under linux is accessing hard disk at 1 sec intervalls? |
| 15:13.46 | bzdoug | start killing stuff till it stops |
| 15:13.48 | bzdoug | :) |
| 15:15.48 | bzdoug | can anyone get to finance.yahoo.com ? |
| 15:16.06 | prodan | yes |
| 15:16.06 | fontenot | i can |
| 15:16.15 | bzdoug | huh |
| 15:16.16 | bzdoug | I cant |
| 15:16.28 | bzdoug | but yahoo.com works |
| 15:16.31 | prodan | start killing people till you can |
| 15:16.55 | bzgirl | :) |
| 15:16.56 | bzdoug | heh |
| 15:17.15 | Chestal | prodan: not sure, you can see open files with lsof, but that wouldn't really help I guess |
| 15:17.27 | prodan | thx |
| 15:18.06 | prodan | happened when i installed new kde 3.1 debs |
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| 15:19.15 | bzdoug | WOO WOO the stocks are DOWN .44% |
| 15:19.34 | prodan | how are wienerschnitzel futures? |
| 15:19.43 | bzdoug | wonderful |
| 15:19.56 | prodan | vealy or piggish? |
| 15:19.58 | bzdoug | the S&P goes down 1% I go up 2% |
| 15:20.18 | prodan | levitation option? |
| 15:20.28 | bzdoug | rydex fund |
| 15:20.33 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 15:20.34 | | shut up doug |
| 15:20.35 | bzdoug | RYTPX |
| 15:22.07 | prodan | sussudio: would you know how i find out which process accesses harddrive every second under linux? |
| 15:23.12 | sussudio | top? |
| 15:23.28 | prodan | hmmm doesnt use enough resources |
| 15:23.32 | bzdoug | bottom |
| 15:23.53 | prodan | just gets on my damn nerves and wears out harddrive |
| 15:24.12 | bzdoug | lol |
| 15:24.20 | bzdoug | its a VIRUS! |
| 15:24.38 | prodan | unlikely under debian |
| 15:24.53 | bzdoug | bah |
| 15:25.01 | bzdoug | trojen horse |
| 15:25.04 | scanline | prodan: it's not wearing out the hard disk, you're just being paranoid |
| 15:25.43 | bzdoug | prodan: scanline has dozens of magneto-optical drives which dont wear out |
| 15:25.52 | prodan | ok it wears me out, tedink tedink tedink tedink |
| 15:26.01 | prodan | tedink tedink tedink |
| 15:26.08 | bzdoug | scanline: you got a photo of your raid setup? |
| 15:26.10 | scanline | prodan: get a louder CPU fan and you won't care :) |
| 15:26.13 | scanline | bzdoug: yes |
| 15:26.16 | bzdoug | prodan: get a quieter hard drive |
| 15:26.26 | bzdoug | scanline: where? |
| 15:26.34 | prodan | bzdoug: get red dwarf |
| 15:26.40 | scanline | bzdoug: http://picogui.org/people/picobot.jpeg |
| 15:26.47 | bzdoug | prodan: quack |
| 15:27.08 | bzdoug | an apple logo on the front |
| 15:27.10 | bzdoug | nice |
| 15:27.17 | scanline | bzdoug: each of those removable bays has a 120GB drive, there's another 45GB drive in the back |
| 15:27.26 | bzdoug | ah, cool |
| 15:27.28 | scanline | the apple logo is not there now |
| 15:27.34 | bzdoug | heh |
| 15:27.40 | scanline | since that picture was taken I've grown more annoyed with apple |
| 15:27.49 | bzdoug | what about the optical raid system? |
| 15:27.50 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 15:27.52 | bzdoug | haha |
| 15:28.08 | scanline | that -is- the optical raid system |
| 15:28.22 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:28.26 | bzdoug | those are... |
| 15:28.31 | scanline | each of those 120GB bays has 5 24GB floptical disks |
| 15:28.39 | bzdoug | !!!! |
| 15:28.58 | bzdoug | captain_proton said those where 5 24MEG floptical disks |
| 15:29.04 | scanline | typo |
| 15:29.11 | bzdoug | theres a big diference there |
| 15:29.12 | prodan | about the same size as the CFcard in my zaurus |
| 15:29.20 | bzdoug | haha |
| 15:29.31 | bzdoug | wow, impressive |
| 15:29.50 | scanline | the 120GB bays are in a RAID-5 system |
| 15:29.56 | bzdoug | ah |
| 15:30.05 | scanline | so if one fails, there's no data loss |
| 15:30.18 | scanline | usable space after the RAID and formatting is 453GB |
| 15:30.23 | bzdoug | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:30.30 | scanline | /dev/md0 453G 348G 83G 81% /navi |
| 15:30.48 | bzdoug | shizzzaaam |
| 15:36.29 | bzdoug | ~5*5 |
| 15:36.30 | | 25 |
| 15:36.40 | bzdoug | ~25*25 |
| 15:36.40 | | 625 |
| 15:37.00 | bzdoug | hmm, minus the raid 5 setup redunecy thing |
| 15:37.40 | scanline | 120GB is redundant |
| 15:37.47 | bzdoug | yea |
| 15:37.56 | scanline | since it's immune to any single-drive failure, it has one drive of redundant data |
| 15:38.19 | bzdoug | ah |
| 15:38.20 | bzdoug | cool |
| 15:46.13 | *** join/#bzflag gonkulator (~brandon@plasma.client.mscd.edu) |
| 15:49.04 | gonkulator | ~lart bzdoug |
| 15:51.16 | gonkulator | er |
| 15:51.20 | gonkulator | s/points/ / |
| 15:53.13 | gonkulator | bzdoug: yes, MSCD.. that is Metropolitan State College of Denver |
| 15:53.24 | gonkulator | bzdoug: I am furthering my education |
| 15:53.31 | gonkulator | that is... making myself less like you |
| 15:53.33 | bzdoug | gonkulator: ah |
| 15:53.38 | bzdoug | good for you |
| 15:54.26 | sussudio | doug could use some education |
| 15:54.35 | sussudio | it's spelled CITIES and COUNTRIES |
| 15:54.41 | sussudio | pig |
| 15:54.49 | bzdoug | goat |
| 15:55.01 | gonkulator | well, thats one animal bzdoug knows how to spell |
| 15:55.25 | bzdoug | maggot |
| 15:55.36 | bzdoug | cow |
| 15:55.37 | bzdoug | dog |
| 15:59.03 | gonkulator | ok bzdoug, now how many animals have you correctly spelled? |
| 16:00.09 | sussudio | a maggot is not an animal |
| 16:00.55 | gonkulator | sussudio: don't give hints :p |
| 16:01.14 | gonkulator | sussudio: and technically, it is |
| 16:01.25 | gonkulator | sussudio: because they all belong to the animmal kingdom |
| 16:01.29 | sussudio | an insect is not an animal |
| 16:01.31 | sussudio | no |
| 16:02.33 | gonkulator | Animal |
| 16:02.34 | gonkulator | Plant |
| 16:02.38 | gonkulator | Fungus |
| 16:03.24 | scanline | Tree |
| 16:03.28 | scanline | Mineral |
| 16:03.35 | scanline | Larva |
| 16:03.40 | scanline | Hydrogen |
| 16:03.44 | scanline | did I get them right? |
| 16:04.51 | bzgirl | ibot: google for kali |
| 16:11.33 | captain_proton | scanline: =) |
| 16:11.44 | scanline | morning captain_proton |
| 16:12.19 | captain_proton | mornin |
| 16:13.14 | sussudio | how bout some cashews |
| 16:14.06 | captain_proton | erf no |
| 16:18.32 | captain_proton | eep |
| 16:18.35 | captain_proton | you need the data? |
| 16:18.43 | scanline | maybe |
| 16:18.47 | scanline | I'm making stuff up though |
| 16:19.20 | captain_proton | i'm about to leave |
| 16:19.23 | captain_proton | want or no? |
| 16:19.31 | scanline | no thanks |
| 16:19.35 | captain_proton | k |
| 16:19.55 | scanline | creepy |
| 16:20.04 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 16:20.07 | captain_proton | be seeing you |
| 16:20.10 | scanline | bye |
| 16:22.16 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 16:23.50 | *** join/#bzflag rooter ([z2FiiIlpn@webguy.cc.westga.edu) |
| 16:24.22 | [TeA|TrEE] | da |
| 16:27.18 | *** part/#bzflag prodan (dan@phoenix.vwl.uni-mannheim.de) |
| 16:33.01 | rooter | HappyPenguin.org has listed bzflag as the best free multiplayer linux game |
| 16:33.03 | rooter | http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 |
| 16:36.35 | bzdoug | yup |
| 16:36.35 | bzdoug | ~x de en da |
| 16:36.55 | bzdoug | da, got it working |
| 16:37.43 | bomber | ~ducatictf |
| 16:37.44 | | charged flux quark |
| 16:37.51 | rooter | :) |
| 16:38.06 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 16:38.06 | | excited pseudoproton |
| 16:38.10 | rooter | sigh |
| 16:41.09 | bomber | ibot ibot |
| 16:41.10 | | somebody said ibot was a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
| 16:42.38 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 16:43.06 | Patlabor221 | anyone know how to mount a zip disk on lin form a command line? |
| 16:46.01 | sussudio | mount -t whateverfilesystem /dev/whereverthehellitis /mountpoint |
| 16:46.15 | *** join/#bzflag Sniper50 (Sniper@c-498770d5.09-28-6c756e1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 16:48.14 | [dmp] | Hi Sniper |
| 16:48.33 | bzdoug | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 16:48.34 | bzdoug | haha sussudio |
| 16:49.48 | Patlabor221 | ick it's a windows formated zip, that usualy fat? |
| 16:50.01 | bzdoug | should be |
| 16:50.05 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 16:50.09 | | shut up doug |
| 16:50.11 | bzdoug | ~sussudiooo |
| 16:50.11 | | the cow that went oink |
| 16:50.17 | sussudio | mount -t vfat /dev/pig /pigdisk |
| 16:50.36 | bzdoug | mount /dev/urandom |
| 16:51.00 | bzdoug | woo woo, the stock market is goin down |
| 16:51.25 | Patlabor221 | proalby /dev/zip? |
| 16:52.26 | scanline | more likely /dev/sda0 |
| 16:52.37 | scanline | or just sda if it isn't partitioned |
| 16:53.17 | sussudio | there is no reason for it to be /dev/zip unless you actually made a symlink to another dev |
| 16:53.20 | Patlabor221 | mount -t fat /dev/sda0 /zip? like that? |
| 16:53.33 | sussudio | if it's ide it's /dev/hdX, if it's scsi /dev/sdX |
| 16:53.40 | Patlabor221 | its IDE |
| 16:53.47 | Patlabor221 | just one partition on the disk |
| 16:53.56 | sussudio | and it's on the primary or secundary controller? master? slave? |
| 16:54.11 | Patlabor221 | probalby secondary slave |
| 16:54.15 | sussudio | ... |
| 16:54.27 | sussudio | mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /mnt |
| 16:54.56 | Patlabor221 | [root@asgard dev]# mount -t fat /dev/hdd1 /mnt |
| 16:54.56 | Patlabor221 | mount: fs type fat not supported by kernel |
| 16:55.07 | Patlabor221 | v fat soory |
| 16:55.07 | sussudio | VFAT |
| 16:55.22 | Patlabor221 | just saw that :/ |
| 16:55.27 | bzdoug | heh |
| 16:55.33 | Patlabor221 | ~sud |
| 16:55.36 | | shut up doug |
| 16:56.01 | bzdoug | is there any programs that allows you to use a cd-rw as a floppy, so I can add/delete files at will? |
| 16:56.03 | Patlabor221 | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1, |
| 16:56.04 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.04 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.04 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.13 | Patlabor221 | baka: directCD |
| 16:56.19 | bzdoug | ah |
| 16:56.22 | bzdoug | is that whats thats for |
| 16:56.23 | bzdoug | cool |
| 16:56.28 | Patlabor221 | yes baka |
| 16:56.33 | sussudio | dmesg | grep hd |
| 16:56.45 | bzdoug | I dont hae directCD |
| 16:56.54 | Patlabor221 | then get it baka |
| 16:57.06 | bzdoug | ~dict baka |
| 16:57.21 | Patlabor221 | you know what it means baka |
| 16:57.21 | bzdoug | ibot, baka |
| 16:57.22 | | bzdoug: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 16:57.22 | Patlabor221 | [root@asgard dev]# dmesg | grep hd |
| 16:57.22 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.22 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.22 | Patlabor221 | hda: WDC WD102AA, ATA DISK drive |
| 16:57.22 | Patlabor221 | hdc: CRD-8400B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 16:57.24 | Patlabor221 | hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive |
| 16:57.25 | Patlabor221 | hda: 20044080 sectors (10263 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=1247/255/63, UDMA(33) |
| 16:57.27 | Patlabor221 | hdd: No disk in drive |
| 16:57.28 | bzdoug | FLOOD FLOOD |
| 16:57.29 | Patlabor221 | hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm |
| 16:57.31 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.33 | Patlabor221 | hdd: 98304kB, 196608 blocks, 512 sector size |
| 16:57.35 | sussudio | pffff. |
| 16:57.35 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.39 | Patlabor221 | hdd1: bad access: block=0, count=1 |
| 16:57.41 | Patlabor221 | end_request: I/O error, dev 16:41 (hdd), sector 0 |
| 16:57.43 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.43 | bzdoug | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.45 | Patlabor221 | [root@asgard dev]# |
| 16:57.47 | Patlabor221 | you will live |
| 16:57.49 | Patlabor221 | and realy SHUT UP DOUG |
| 16:58.05 | sussudio | mount -t vfat /dev/hdd4 /mnt |
| 16:58.12 | Patlabor221 | you should join # slackers |
| 16:58.24 | bzdoug | no one there |
| 16:58.42 | scanline | you should /part #bzflag |
| 16:58.49 | Patlabor221 | that's guys |
| 16:58.52 | bzdoug | hah |
| 16:59.10 | scanline | or maybe someone like captain_proton should finally kickban you :P |
| 16:59.22 | bzdoug | bah |
| 16:59.59 | Patlabor221 | if I want to copy all of the zip to a folder would it be cp -r /mnt /var/www/html/ ? |
| 17:00.20 | sussudio | why dont you use mc |
| 17:00.34 | Patlabor221 | cus I don't have much of a clue what I'm doing here :) |
| 17:00.42 | sussudio | apt-get install mc |
| 17:01.19 | Patlabor221 | ohh says I don't have apt get |
| 17:01.31 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: if you "own" nero, there is a program called incd for free download from neros website |
| 17:01.34 | sussudio | YOURE NOT RUNNING DEBIAN?! |
| 17:01.42 | bzgirl | apperently hes not |
| 17:01.50 | bzgirl | stop helping him :) |
| 17:01.51 | Patlabor221 | doug sHUT UP, realy |
| 17:01.57 | Patlabor221 | no I am not |
| 17:02.03 | sussudio | ~lart Patlabor221 |
| 17:02.16 | Patlabor221 | I am very new to this and the only thing I could get installed is redhat |
| 17:02.20 | Patlabor221 | but I am learning. |
| 17:02.21 | sussudio | gah |
| 17:02.54 | Patlabor221 | hey I'm moving baka to the prefred server platform at elast. |
| 17:02.59 | bzgirl | you want to copy all the files in /mnt ? |
| 17:03.06 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:03.16 | Patlabor221 | it's a backup of the website that was on the windows machine |
| 17:03.27 | Patlabor221 | I have apache all set up on the lin machine now |
| 17:03.33 | sussudio | cp -ax /mnt /var/www/html |
| 17:04.11 | Patlabor221 | hooray for peer |
| 17:04.21 | bzgirl | :) |
| 17:04.50 | Patlabor221 | ohhhh it's making whirring and clicking sounds now. |
| 17:05.05 | bzgirl | thats the kernel bubbling away |
| 17:05.19 | Patlabor221 | or just a realy old zip drive :) |
| 17:05.58 | Patlabor221 | what did the -ax do? |
| 17:06.08 | Patlabor221 | I would have thought it would have to use -r |
| 17:06.11 | *** join/#bzflag jraitala (cheesus@jraitala-dsl.oulu.fi) |
| 17:06.14 | bzgirl | archive |
| 17:06.24 | bzgirl | and sty on one filesystem |
| 17:06.28 | bzgirl | stay* |
| 17:06.42 | *** join/#bzflag root____ (~root@216.135.68.133) |
| 17:06.48 | bzgirl | -a archive |
| 17:06.57 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.57 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.58 | Patlabor221 | yes but why archive? what does that do? |
| 17:07.41 | bzgirl | recursive copy |
| 17:08.02 | bzgirl | and dosent copy lsym links |
| 17:08.19 | Patlabor221 | ahhhhh |
| 17:08.19 | bzgirl | symbolic* |
| 17:08.28 | Patlabor221 | ok makes sense then, thanks |
| 17:09.09 | bzgirl | you will grow to loath man pages as you use linux |
| 17:09.17 | Patlabor221 | ohh that put it in a mnt dir in the html dir |
| 17:09.33 | Patlabor221 | I allready don't like the man pages, mostly try to use --help |
| 17:09.51 | bzgirl | i ask sussudio |
| 17:09.53 | Patlabor221 | how do I move the contents of the dir up one level |
| 17:10.31 | sussudio | mv * ..\ |
| 17:10.40 | bzgirl | cd into it. first |
| 17:10.50 | Patlabor221 | yah I did |
| 17:10.58 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 17:11.40 | bzgirl | not: mv *../ ?? |
| 17:11.55 | Patlabor221 | src dest |
| 17:12.06 | sussudio | .\./.\.\./ |
| 17:12.28 | bzdoug | sussudio: whats that do? |
| 17:12.38 | sussudio | confuse you |
| 17:12.45 | bzdoug | ah, it dint work |
| 17:12.51 | sussudio | liar |
| 17:13.03 | bzdoug | truly |
| 17:13.59 | Patlabor221 | whooot, well it's partly back up |
| 17:14.03 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/ |
| 17:14.34 | bzdoug | shiiizzam |
| 17:16.25 | Patlabor221 | now to get it to serve up the right index page in subfolders |
| 17:34.49 | rooter | you could do a redirect |
| 17:35.21 | rooter | or set ServerRoot |
| 17:35.50 | rooter | ...that is, if you have access to the conf files on your webserver |
| 17:38.02 | Patlabor221 | the machine is here. I just need to make sure it's loading index.html as the default for all sub dirs |
| 17:38.24 | rooter | DirectoryIndex index.html |
| 17:41.17 | *** join/#bzflag victorvdl (victorvdl@ip201.van98.pacifier.com) |
| 17:54.03 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@rikers.org) |
| 17:54.05 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 17:58.29 | Patlabor221 | hmmm... is there any reason I can't run 2 servers on the same machine? |
| 18:01.38 | bzgirl | you can run 10 with apache i think |
| 18:02.11 | bzgirl | virtual somethings theyre callled (hows that? helpful eh?) |
| 18:02.34 | Patlabor221 | ohh I mane BZ servers :) |
| 18:02.39 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ |
| 18:02.58 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: just use -p and -pr |
| 18:03.02 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 18:04.09 | Patlabor221 | I just did that, I must have ports blocked, have to lookinto it. |
| 18:20.51 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E95392.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:21.06 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 18:21.06 | | ionized flux neutron |
| 18:21.07 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatu |
| 18:21.13 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducati |
| 18:21.30 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:59999 |
| 18:22.28 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 18:22.29 | | excited flux meson |
| 18:34.04 | TimRiker | ~literal ducatictf |
| 18:34.05 | | ducatictf is <reply> see particle of the day |
| 18:34.40 | TimRiker | ibot, no ducatictf is <reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:59999 |
| 18:34.41 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 18:34.48 | TimRiker | ~ducatictf |
| 18:35.00 | TimRiker | ~lock ducati |
| 18:35.00 | | locking factoid ducati, TimRiker |
| 18:35.02 | TimRiker | ~lock ducatictf |
| 18:35.02 | | TimRiker: locking factoid ducatictf |
| 18:35.45 | [TeA|TrEE] | what the bzedit site for win32? |
| 18:35.46 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: if ibot can query your server, then tcp ports are ok. ibot does not do udp though. |
| 18:35.53 | TimRiker | ~bzeditw32 |
| 18:35.54 | | bzeditw32 is, like, http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit |
| 18:36.00 | [TeA|TrEE] | thx |
| 18:43.26 | Patlabor221 | that's the only site for bzedit for windows :) |
| 18:44.00 | Patlabor221 | tim, it's runnig a zero server, so it can't query it :( |
| 18:44.09 | Patlabor221 | wrong version and all |
| 18:44.45 | Patlabor221 | ibot bzfquery asgard.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 18:44.57 | Patlabor221 | ibot bzfquery asgard.bakadigital.com:5157 |
| 18:45.11 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 18:45.34 | Patlabor221 | does look like 5157 is blocked tho, have to wait till fiber gets back. |
| 18:47.28 | TimRiker | ibot bzfquery asgard.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 18:47.53 | TimRiker | ibot bzfquery asgard.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 18:48.20 | TimRiker | better? |
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| 18:56.47 | Patlabor221 | cool, thanks |
| 18:57.57 | Patlabor221 | would be nice to spec a version in the call tho, that way when normal bz breaks protocoll and I asumes bumps version, ibot coudld still be used for both types of servers |
| 18:58.14 | Patlabor221 | but make the default the "current" version |
| 18:58.48 | sussudio | it's written in perl. |
| 18:59.53 | Patlabor221 | that shouls make it easy to add stuff then. |
| 19:00.08 | sussudio | perl = text |
| 19:00.29 | Patlabor221 | like bzfquery asgard.bakadigital.com:5155 #0.0.x or something |
| 19:00.34 | Patlabor221 | yes I know pearl is text |
| 19:00.41 | Patlabor221 | I don't know pearl tho :( |
| 19:00.48 | scanline | perl != pearl |
| 19:00.58 | Patlabor221 | ok I don't know perl |
| 19:02.11 | sussudio | # quit if version isn't valid |
| 19:02.12 | sussudio | die "not a bzflag server" if ($magic ne "BZFS"); |
| 19:02.12 | sussudio | die "incompatible version" if ($major < 1); |
| 19:02.12 | sussudio | die "incompatible version" if ($major == 1 && $minor < 7); |
| 19:02.12 | sussudio | die "incompatible version" if ($major == 1 && $minor == 7 && $revision eq "b"); |
| 19:03.00 | Patlabor221 | be coolif you could spec those constants for 1 7 and b |
| 19:03.24 | Patlabor221 | as optionals in the bzfquery line |
| 19:03.30 | sussudio | it's not that hard. |
| 19:03.35 | Patlabor221 | i'm sure it's not |
| 19:03.48 | Patlabor221 | but since tim runs ibot I have to convince him :) |
| 19:04.04 | sussudio | you could just replace it with something that shows the server version instead of exiting the program. |
| 19:04.17 | Patlabor221 | that would be even more usefull |
| 19:04.33 | Patlabor221 | would increase the size of th bzflist tho |
| 19:04.53 | sussudio | by 1 |
| 19:05.16 | Patlabor221 | it may pick up people running 1.6s or whatever. |
| 19:05.46 | sussudio | i doubt it. |
| 19:06.14 | sussudio | http://204.228.134.186:5156/ |
| 19:06.55 | sussudio | there's only 2 servers -not- running 107e |
| 19:06.56 | sussudio | king.bzflag.org:5153 BZFS108a |
| 19:07.07 | sussudio | asgard.bakadigital.com:5155 BZFS001x |
| 19:08.07 | Patlabor221 | then not bad at all |
| 19:08.39 | Patlabor221 | there will be 2 zero servers soon, but still I think it's coo |
| 19:08.45 | Patlabor221 | but up to "the man" |
| 19:09.14 | sussudio | bzfquery.pl is 145 lines |
| 19:09.25 | sussudio | including comments |
| 19:09.31 | Patlabor221 | very small |
| 19:10.38 | Patlabor221 | well now to figure out why the geo replacement for GM don't go on lin. |
| 20:10.14 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@pD9E50E09.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:12.46 | Cell | i want to play bzflag 32k |
| 20:14.43 | bzdoug | 32k? |
| 20:14.54 | Cell | 32 kilobyte |
| 20:15.36 | bzdoug | 32 kilobyte bzflag |
| 20:15.38 | bzdoug | ? |
| 20:15.53 | Cell | yes that should be enough for a game 32k |
| 20:16.11 | bzdoug | why 32 kilobyte? |
| 20:16.25 | bzdoug | why not 64k, or 16 k? |
| 20:16.25 | Cell | turrican on the c-64 has 32k |
| 20:16.33 | sussudio | shut the hell up cell |
| 20:16.44 | Cell | because ppl are trying to make the best 32k game |
| 20:16.53 | bzdoug | ah |
| 20:17.03 | Cell | its a competition |
| 20:17.50 | Cell | sussudio: eaten too much food? |
| 20:20.37 | Cell | i tried to make a cheat so that it loks if another tank driver is cheating, but it looks like if a client cant get the info of other players ip |
| 20:20.56 | bzdoug | ? |
| 20:22.00 | Cell | there is also no buffer overfloe possible that would allow to gather the password of the server |
| 20:22.05 | sussudio | why dont you try a hobby, like collecting stamps, cell? |
| 20:22.16 | Cell | boring |
| 20:22.24 | sussudio | or you could kill yourself |
| 20:22.28 | bzdoug | COOLECTING STAMPS?!?!?! |
| 20:22.58 | Cell | sussudio: i could kill urself, haß |
| 20:23.35 | Cell | but thats boring too |
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| 20:25.09 | Cell | \ignore sussudio |
| 20:25.17 | Cell | uos |
| 20:25.31 | sussudio | why dont you do it properly you stupid piece of crap |
| 20:26.24 | sussudio | yay! |
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| 20:33.05 | fiberchunks | patlabor221: can you help me out a minute? |
| 20:33.13 | [TeA|TrEE] | bye all |
| 20:33.15 | fiberchunks | afternoon, all |
| 20:33.19 | [TeA|TrEE] | night |
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| 20:36.04 | fiberchunks | why would it occur that some gl apps will compile and run fine, and then others will compile (and used to run fine), but now don't? |
| 20:36.44 | fiberchunks | all I get on some of the apps that used to run beautifully is a black screen |
| 20:37.11 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 20:37.25 | sussudio | it's all doug's fault |
| 20:41.03 | fiberchunks | dammit...they used to work perfectly -- now there is one app that uses SDL / GL and works fine, but the others that use GL (whether SDL inits the context or not), don't work -- and I have no idea why -- ugh |
| 20:45.05 | fiberchunks | well, I guess I'll ask later, seems noone's here right now - bye |
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| 20:57.30 | [dmp] | Am I the only one, who cant connect to fibers forum? |
| 21:01.47 | Chestal | I cannot either |
| 21:29.08 | Patlabor221 | I coudn't earlyer, seems I still can't now |
| 21:30.21 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com) |
| 21:31.31 | calico | anyone want a match |
| 21:32.27 | bzgirl | ok |
| 21:32.42 | bzgirl | practice one |
| 21:32.49 | *** join/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@pD95331F3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:32.56 | ak|ra | hi |
| 21:33.01 | bzgirl | hello ak|ra |
| 21:33.20 | calico | what team are you on bzg |
| 21:33.32 | bzgirl | none at this moment |
| 21:33.48 | calico | 1v1 |
| 21:33.57 | bzgirl | but i will find someone to play 2 vs 2 if you like |
| 21:34.31 | [dmp] | hi calico |
| 21:34.39 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
| 21:34.47 | calico | weve got a nice warm spot on HoW for you bzg |
| 21:34.53 | calico | hi bud |
| 21:34.55 | bzgirl | :) |
| 21:35.47 | [dmp] | Calico have been keeping it warm of the last few days. I seems to be unable to get the top score on ducati :-) |
| 21:36.07 | calico | ive been getting lucky |
| 21:36.14 | bzgirl | calico: you have six aleady on your team |
| 21:36.16 | [dmp] | yeah right :-) |
| 21:36.23 | calico | not all are active |
| 21:36.33 | bzgirl | lol |
| 21:36.36 | calico | we need another girl on our team |
| 21:36.40 | bzgirl | right..rembo never plays |
| 21:36.41 | calico | n:) |
| 21:36.44 | [dmp] | another?! |
| 21:36.46 | bzgirl | nor mirrella :) |
| 21:36.46 | [dmp] | :) |
| 21:36.54 | calico | bzgirl says mirella is a she |
| 21:37.06 | [dmp] | me dont think so.. (still) |
| 21:37.08 | calico | but mirella told me and dmp she was a he |
| 21:37.19 | bzgirl | well I must be wrong then |
| 21:37.28 | [dmp] | and BigBarrel, who claims to have been webcam'ing with him |
| 21:37.29 | calico | im still not sure |
| 21:37.38 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:37.59 | calico | maybe once he was a he and now hes a she |
| 21:38.02 | [dmp] | Italian guys, tend to have girlnames, so i'm not surprised :) |
| 21:38.03 | bzgirl | well that should be definitive |
| 21:38.06 | calico | i think i just went crosseyed |
| 21:38.14 | doughecka | LOL |
| 21:38.22 | sussudio | "There is no Canadian drinking water guideline for urine at present." |
| 21:38.32 | sussudio | they could sell it to the US as genuine american beer |
| 21:38.37 | HPP | heheh |
| 21:38.45 | bzgirl | none needed sussudio, we dont drink urine here |
| 21:38.50 | calico | isnt that what you call labbats blue |
| 21:38.54 | sussudio | i beg to differ |
| 21:39.00 | sussudio | http://www.esemag.com/0999/avogadro.html |
| 21:39.28 | [dmp] | fast,before i begin crossdressing as well |
| 21:39.34 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:39.34 | calico | lol |
| 21:39.39 | bzgirl | sussudio: go out, take a walk, stop looing at websites :) |
| 21:39.49 | bzgirl | looking* |
| 21:39.49 | sussudio | no |
| 21:39.51 | doughecka | looing! |
| 21:40.00 | sussudio | it's 10:40PM and it's freezing and dark outside |
| 21:40.08 | bzgirl | ahh |
| 21:40.21 | Chestal | it's snowing here, and it's cold |
| 21:40.33 | bzgirl | its freezing here too :( |
| 21:40.40 | [dmp] | it dropped from 10celsius on monday to -10 today. |
| 21:40.47 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:40.51 | Chestal | great weather t is |
| 21:40.57 | calico | cold here as well |
| 21:42.03 | Patlabor221 | cap, scanline, or Tim are you guys here? |
| 21:42.14 | Patlabor221 | a bit? |
| 21:42.19 | doughecka | hah, you want the whole gang |
| 21:42.19 | scanline | and there |
| 21:42.35 | Patlabor221 | I have a linux build issue, would you perhaps be able to help me? |
| 21:42.47 | scanline | maybe.. though I'm a little busy elsewhere |
| 21:42.47 | Patlabor221 | no I just need any one of them |
| 21:42.49 | calico | -12 celcius here today |
| 21:42.56 | Patlabor221 | then I won't bug you. |
| 21:43.02 | doughecka | all the kings horses and cow couldnt put scanline back together again |
| 21:43.18 | calico | ~ducatictf |
| 21:43.30 | calico | wow still |
| 21:43.38 | doughecka | ~jzaun |
| 21:43.41 | calico | dmp lets go so i can koll you for awhile |
| 21:43.44 | doughecka | wow |
| 21:43.44 | Patlabor221 | ~bzfqueryl ragnrok.bakadigital.com |
| 21:43.47 | calico | nkill |
| 21:43.57 | calico | kill and koll youll like it |
| 21:44.03 | [dmp] | No, i'm abit fed up with bzflag. |
| 21:44.09 | calico | lol |
| 21:44.14 | doughecka | ~ragnrok is <reply> see bzfquery ragnrok.bakadigital.com |
| 21:44.14 | | okay, doughecka |
| 21:44.14 | calico | why |
| 21:44.20 | doughecka | ~ragnrok |
| 21:44.32 | doughecka | whats the other server? |
| 21:44.34 | Patlabor221 | hmm didn't give the verison wanring |
| 21:44.43 | doughecka | TimRiker must have fixed it |
| 21:44.44 | sussudio | verizon warning? |
| 21:44.54 | Patlabor221 | ~bzfqueryl asgard.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 21:45.05 | Patlabor221 | ohh I put an L in it |
| 21:45.09 | Patlabor221 | ~bzfquery asgard.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 21:45.14 | doughecka | ~ asgard is <reply> see bzfquery asgard.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 21:45.15 | | doughecka: okay |
| 21:45.18 | doughecka | huh? |
| 21:45.22 | doughecka | ~asgard |
| 21:45.24 | Patlabor221 | hmmm rag is running zero too |
| 21:45.30 | doughecka | wierd |
| 21:45.34 | Patlabor221 | rather |
| 21:45.45 | Patlabor221 | well at least they are both up now. |
| 21:45.52 | doughecka | heh |
| 21:46.11 | Patlabor221 | just need to finish moving over the baka site. |
| 21:50.39 | Patlabor221 | you don't have $12.00 |
| 21:51.04 | doughecka | 12 bucks? |
| 21:51.07 | doughecka | I thought it was 6 |
| 21:51.10 | Patlabor221 | for the domain |
| 21:51.40 | doughecka | 8 bucks a year |
| 21:52.10 | sussudio | * Resolved digitalpig.com to 216.219.254.60 |
| 21:52.22 | Patlabor221 | still you don't have $9 |
| 21:52.42 | doughecka | huh |
| 21:52.46 | doughecka | you THINK I dont... |
| 21:52.55 | Patlabor221 | saved the allowance? |
| 21:52.55 | doughecka | but I have millions |
| 21:53.01 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 21:53.11 | Patlabor221 | what will you do with the domain? |
| 21:53.11 | doughecka | millions of carbon atoms |
| 21:53.19 | Patlabor221 | host it on the old DSL? |
| 21:53.21 | doughecka | sell it to you for 50 bucks |
| 21:53.34 | Patlabor221 | why would I want it |
| 21:56.08 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
| 21:57.40 | doughecka | yay, cgi-irc on MY server |
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| 21:59.07 | Patlabor221 | what did you install? |
| 21:59.11 | doughecka | ? |
| 21:59.13 | Patlabor221 | lame ass IRC script? |
| 21:59.17 | doughecka | cgi-irc |
| 21:59.23 | doughecka | THE only cgi-irc program |
| 21:59.33 | Patlabor221 | durchai all realdy set one up |
| 21:59.38 | doughecka | yea |
| 21:59.40 | doughecka | this one was there |
| 21:59.44 | doughecka | but I forgot about it |
| 21:59.57 | doughecka | its my personal version |
| 22:02.15 | doughecka | captain_proton: incase the world ends as we know it, I can still get on #bzflag |
| 22:02.39 | Patlabor221 | you think the server will be running then? |
| 22:02.49 | Patlabor221 | cap: you got a momoent or 3? |
| 22:02.52 | doughecka | sure |
| 22:03.16 | doughecka | its in tampa, far away from likely nuke strikes to kentucky from sussudio |
| 22:03.21 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: for what? |
| 22:03.30 | Patlabor221 | help with linux link issue |
| 22:04.08 | sussudio | little does doug know that jeb bush is actually a living bomb |
| 22:04.08 | Patlabor221 | /usr/bin/g++ -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE -DHALF_RATE_AUDIO -DXF86VIDMODE_EXT -DXIJOYSTICK -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DVERSION=0012601 -DROBOT -DINSTALL_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/bzflag/data\" -I../../include -DNDEBUG -O2 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -fnonnull-objects -fexpensive-optimizations -o ../../bin/bzflagZ MainWindow.o ControlPanel.o World.o SceneBuilder.o SceneRenderer.o BackgroundR |
| 22:04.09 | Patlabor221 | ../../lib/libGeometry.a(AnimMesh.o): In function `AnimModel::LoadA3D(char const*)': |
| 22:04.09 | Patlabor221 | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x1756): undefined reference to `OSFile::OSFile[in-charge](char const*)' |
| 22:04.09 | Patlabor221 | AnimMesh.o(.text+0x176a): undefined reference to `OSFile::Open(bool, bool)' |
| 22:04.11 | Patlabor221 | A |
| 22:04.42 | doughecka | http://heckamangroup.com/cgi-bin/slash/avantify.cgi |
| 22:04.48 | doughecka | anyone want a simple slashdot? |
| 22:04.53 | doughecka | for there pda? |
| 22:04.53 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:05.15 | Patlabor221 | realy man do you ever talk about what this channel is suposed to be about? |
| 22:05.36 | doughecka | ever want to play bzflag:zero? |
| 22:05.52 | captain_proton | hm |
| 22:05.54 | Patlabor221 | yes, why do you think I made it. |
| 22:08.19 | doughecka | shiizzam |
| 22:08.22 | Patlabor221 | and I may not play it as much as some other people play, but at least I contribute, and talk about it, and ideas |
| 22:09.01 | Patlabor221 | riiiiiighhht |
| 22:12.37 | Patlabor221 | hell you couldn't even make a tutorial for BZE |
| 22:12.57 | doughecka | but you changed alot of things |
| 22:13.00 | doughecka | again |
| 22:16.09 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: no use, we all know that doughecka is incapable of doing anything useful |
| 22:16.25 | doughecka | yes we do |
| 22:21.46 | sussudio | so you wont put full length chickenpr0n divx'es on there |
| 22:22.04 | doughecka | if thats what YOU look at all the time.. |
| 22:23.04 | doughecka | hmm, can you have front page extentions on a apache server on a linux box? |
| 22:23.11 | sussudio | everyone knows about your deviance, doug. |
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| 22:27.06 | ak|ra | hi |
| 22:27.25 | doughecka | moin |
| 22:27.29 | doughecka | ~x de en moin |
| 22:30.50 | doughecka | cd-rw drives are soo slow |
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| 22:30.58 | doughecka | how do I pass commands to cgi scripts? |
| 22:31.02 | ak|ra | then dont use them :) |
| 22:31.08 | doughecka | ak|ra: bah |
| 22:31.10 | ak|ra | some makefile guru here? |
| 22:31.18 | sussudio | just piss off akira |
| 22:31.34 | doughecka | sussudio: that was mean |
| 22:35.53 | Patlabor221 | cap: yes he is not capable. |
| 22:36.02 | Patlabor221 | isn't there a "contribute or die" rule here? |
| 22:36.07 | doughecka | nope |
| 22:36.23 | doughecka | I contribute maps |
| 22:36.37 | sussudio | spirals is actually a negative contribution |
| 22:36.40 | Patlabor221 | but you don't talk about anything BZ related. |
| 22:36.51 | Patlabor221 | EVER |
| 22:36.52 | doughecka | sussudio: only to you |
| 22:36.59 | doughecka | Patlabor221: thats not true |
| 22:37.01 | Patlabor221 | no it sucks |
| 22:37.09 | Patlabor221 | how bout "rarely" |
| 22:37.09 | doughecka | Patlabor221: we are talking about bzflag right now |
| 22:37.21 | ak|ra | some gnu make gurus here? :) |
| 22:37.23 | Patlabor221 | no I am complaining, you are shuruging |
| 22:37.49 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:38.15 | Patlabor221 | naw I'll just get cap realy drunk and get him to ban ya |
| 22:38.17 | sussudio | bugger off cell |
| 22:38.23 | doughecka | hah |
| 22:38.27 | Cell | lo |
| 22:38.27 | doughecka | captain_proton drinks? |
| 22:39.11 | Cell | i played turrican 32k right now its pretty kewl |
| 22:39.19 | doughecka | kewl |
| 22:39.22 | sussudio | nobody cares cell |
| 22:39.27 | Cell | yep |
| 22:39.32 | doughecka | sussudio is in a mean mood today |
| 22:40.13 | Patlabor221 | just for the bakas, he helped me out imensly |
| 22:40.29 | Cell | bakes? |
| 22:40.42 | Patlabor221 | baka |
| 22:40.59 | Cell | a your anime stuff |
| 22:41.10 | Patlabor221 | no just a word |
| 22:41.12 | doughecka | jap or something |
| 22:42.58 | Yotsimitsu | http://gamebaka.hypermart.net/gamebaka.html |
| 22:44.04 | Cell | ? |
| 22:47.31 | Cell | Puttylabor221:What is with screamers? |
| 22:53.16 | TimRiker | http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgamebaka.hypermart.net%2Fgamebaka.html&lp=ja_en&tt=url |
| 22:53.32 | TimRiker | Yotsimitsu: what's that about? and why post here? |
| 22:54.28 | ak|ra | hi TimRiker |
| 22:54.50 | Patlabor221 | ohh they are just trying to figure out what baka means |
| 22:56.08 | Patlabor221 | Tim I'm able now to get the errors from that linux make issue with the model class. |
| 23:00.15 | Patlabor221 | any class I put in plat should be in libPlatform.a right? |
| 23:01.49 | Cell | kewl |
| 23:02.35 | Cell | bzflag looks so good in wireframe |
| 23:03.03 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: provided you mod the makefile, yes. |
| 23:03.16 | TimRiker | ak|ra: what's the gnu make issue? |
| 23:03.22 | TimRiker | ~lart gnu make |
| 23:03.24 | Patlabor221 | I put the cxx file in plats make |
| 23:03.38 | ak|ra | TimRiker: :) |
| 23:03.51 | Patlabor221 | do I need to do anything else? |
| 23:03.53 | ak|ra | ok, i want to make (hoho) a target like ths |
| 23:04.11 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: that should do it. if you touch the cxx does it rebuild the object and library? |
| 23:04.13 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.17 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:04.23 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.28 | ak|ra | but |
| 23:04.33 | ak|ra | i want to keep it generell |
| 23:04.38 | ak|ra | so |
| 23:05.11 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.19 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.20 | Patlabor221 | I know it build the cxx as there were errors in it that I had to fix, and the compiler showed em |
| 23:05.24 | ak|ra | is that allright so far? |
| 23:05.38 | Patlabor221 | that looks like leet |
| 23:06.02 | TimRiker | ak|ra: would it be easier to write a .o.a: rule? |
| 23:06.51 | ak|ra | TimRiker: man make says, its deprecated .. and the oldstylesuffix stuff |
| 23:06.53 | TimRiker | bz has: |
| 23:06.58 | TimRiker | $(TARGETS): $(OBJECTS) |
| 23:06.59 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.53 | TimRiker | where TARGETS get's set to the .a |
| 23:08.40 | ak|ra | i assume TARGETS = libPlatform.a etc |
| 23:08.45 | Cell | stuff time |
| 23:08.55 | TimRiker | why do you have "%.$(SUFFIX_LIB) ( some o's ) :" and not "%.$(SUFFIX_LIB): ( some o's )" ? |
| 23:11.23 | *** part/#bzflag Cell (~Cell@pD9E50E09.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:11.25 | ak|ra | because ( i assume its a secret feature of make which nobody knows) ... |
| 23:11.32 | ak|ra | http://www.gnu.org/manual/make/html_chapter/make_10.html#SEC111 |
| 23:11.33 | ak|ra | thats why |
| 23:12.27 | ak|ra | but ok, i think its working now |
| 23:12.48 | ak|ra | i removed the extra ( ) stuff behind the target |
| 23:14.16 | TimRiker | ak|ra: ahh... that would be for an object inside a library directly. libfoo.a(bar.o) notice that there is no space. |
| 23:14.47 | doughecka | "Oh bother," said Pooh, as he hid Piglet's mangled corpse. |
| 23:15.27 | ak|ra | TimRiker: maybe |
| 23:17.12 | ak|ra | ok |
| 23:17.36 | ak|ra | %.$(SUFFIX): $(libZ_SRC:.c=.o) |
| 23:17.43 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.46 | ak|ra | now works |
| 23:17.47 | ak|ra | but |
| 23:18.01 | ak|ra | i want to replace libZ_SRC with the mor general thing ... |
| 23:18.34 | ak|ra | if its make libFOO then make should take libFOO_SRC |
| 23:18.36 | ak|ra | any idea? |
| 23:22.28 | TimRiker | $($(SOMEOTHER: =_SRC):.c=.o) ? |
| 23:22.43 | ak|ra | lets try |
| 23:22.49 | TimRiker | don't know if that will work all on one line. |
| 23:22.54 | ak|ra | by the way |
| 23:23.06 | ak|ra | everything fine tim? |
| 23:23.14 | ak|ra | so with new company and stuff like that? |
| 23:23.33 | TimRiker | might need a SOMEOTHER = $(FOO: =_SRC) or something. |
| 23:23.58 | TimRiker | no new company. planning on doing contract work, but no contracts signed yet. |
| 23:24.21 | ak|ra | ah .. but the other company took over your old comp right? |
| 23:27.10 | ak|ra | so, how do the %.a : something become the same? |
| 23:27.36 | ak|ra | libfoo.a : $(libfoo_SRC:.c=.o) for example? |
| 23:36.34 | TimRiker | ah, sorta. Metrowerks bought Lineo and offered me contract work at a lower rate than I was willing to take. so I turned them down and went solo. |
| 23:36.50 | ak|ra | uh |
| 23:37.02 | ak|ra | and now? |
| 23:37.08 | ak|ra | playing bzflag all the time? |
| 23:37.13 | TimRiker | heh |
| 23:40.45 | TimRiker | does libfoo.a : $($(@:.a=_SRC)) work? |
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| 23:44.46 | ak|ra | lets check it |
| 23:46.56 | ak|ra | mhh .. i tried something like this before |
| 23:47.07 | ak|ra | seems to work .. with a bit extra .. wait |
| 23:48.19 | ak|ra | mhh |
| 23:48.35 | ak|ra | now we need to add the final .c=.o ... |
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| 23:49.26 | ak|ra | hi mac |
| 23:50.52 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.06 | ak|ra | this at least gives me the right objects |
| 23:51.38 | ak|ra | but it doesnt use this in the libfoo : HERE stuff |
| 23:55.53 | MrApathyCream | re ak|ra |
| 23:57.55 | TimRiker | ~spell relevant |
| 23:57.56 | | 'relevant' may be spelled correctly |
