| 00:00.31 | Patlabor221 | I can get in |
| 00:01.54 | Patlabor221 | ohh my cell, that would be rather hard to texture, and not a very efeicent use of the texture space too. |
| 00:02.18 | Cell | that is the automatic unwrapp |
| 00:02.35 | Cell | and render to texture, no need for texturing by hand |
| 00:02.43 | Patlabor221 | yes and it's crap |
| 00:02.49 | Vernon | kidz |
| 00:02.51 | Patlabor221 | over half that texutre is wasted memeory |
| 00:02.55 | Patlabor221 | kidz? |
| 00:03.13 | Cell | yes, its not perfect |
| 00:03.16 | Patlabor221 | that texture would be considerd childish in a real company |
| 00:03.36 | Patlabor221 | group things that are next to each other together |
| 00:03.52 | Cell | oh, 3d studio programmers did that |
| 00:04.06 | Patlabor221 | why do the yes have so much texture space compared to the legs |
| 00:04.18 | Patlabor221 | automatics never work right |
| 00:04.29 | Cell | oh but saves time |
| 00:04.36 | Patlabor221 | they can only be used as a base for hand tweaking |
| 00:04.49 | Patlabor221 | saves time making crap |
| 00:05.00 | Patlabor221 | you will waste more time when you have to do it over again the right way. |
| 00:05.18 | Patlabor221 | typical programer art, "aww what ever works" |
| 00:05.33 | Cell | hm, sadly im not an artist |
| 00:05.50 | MrApathyCream | -fb should now allow any number really |
| 00:06.38 | Cell | but now i give it a skeleton |
| 00:06.53 | Cell | maybe it looks better in motion |
| 00:06.54 | Patlabor221 | you could be if you just tried. |
| 00:07.26 | Cell | and wait for the fire in motion, thats gona look damn good |
| 00:07.38 | Patlabor221 | that can't go in game |
| 00:08.45 | Cell | oh it could be put into a short intro avi, like in Highland Warriors, cool fire |
| 00:09.37 | Patlabor221 | bz dosn't have an intro AVI |
| 00:09.50 | Cell | oh it could, would be nice |
| 00:09.56 | Patlabor221 | and I would not want to be the one to make an AVI renderer for an irix machine |
| 00:10.09 | Patlabor221 | then patch it in |
| 00:10.22 | Cell | oh how about mpeg |
| 00:11.20 | Patlabor221 | have to make a renderer for anything |
| 00:11.28 | Patlabor221 | or find a lib that will do all plats |
| 00:12.24 | Cell | yo |
| 00:12.55 | Cell | cool charaktar studio has spider skelet |
| 00:13.41 | Cell | and i can place footsteps, and it will calc the motion keys |
| 00:14.34 | Patlabor221 | thats what CS is there for |
| 00:15.32 | Cell | kewl |
| 00:17.12 | Cell | ok the skeleton is moving now like a spider, i have to bind the spider mesh to it with physique, a deformation tool from CS |
| 00:18.20 | Cell | oh that could be all exported to cipher |
| 00:20.23 | Cell | oh time to brush my teeth |
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| 00:22.35 | Cell | damn late here, thats not gonna be finished now, need deep sleep |
| 00:22.38 | Cell | Pryy guvaxf gung omsynt vf gur zbgnshpxvat tnzr sebz uryy. |
| 00:22.47 | Patlabor221 | yay |
| 00:23.22 | fiberchunks | what was that? |
| 00:26.43 | sussudio | cell playing with rot13. |
| 00:26.46 | sussudio | ~rot13 Pryy guvaxf gung omsynt vf gur zbgnshpxvat tnzr sebz uryy |
| 00:26.46 | | Cell thinks that bzflag is the motafucking game from hell |
| 00:27.50 | Patlabor221 | can someone please ban his sorrry but |
| 00:29.39 | fiberchunks | so whaz happonin yall |
| 00:29.53 | Patlabor221 | fixing der misssile |
| 00:39.26 | MrApathyCream | cul |
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| 00:41.26 | sussudio | is there a way to get stats about players for bzfs? like that new shot-skipping thing |
| 00:41.53 | sussudio | FantaZee is right now on ducati, lagstats says 80ms but he looks like someone with 1.7e4 and heavy lag |
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| 01:16.20 | fiberchunks | wow, some fancy weirdness happens with bz and my laptop GeF card |
| 01:16.33 | fiberchunks | shadows absolutely kill it |
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| 01:16.38 | ak|ra | hi guys |
| 01:16.51 | fiberchunks | and lack of depth buffer makes things render odd in Z dimension |
| 01:17.02 | ak|ra | whats that stuff with #includes and sgi? |
| 01:17.07 | ak|ra | whats the prob? |
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| 01:24.33 | Patlabor221 | fiber what GF is in the laptop? |
| 01:24.40 | Patlabor221 | a Gf2 go? |
| 01:24.54 | ak|ra | hi Patlabor221 |
| 01:25.00 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 01:25.02 | Patlabor221 | how goes it |
| 01:25.23 | ak|ra | did you read the mailing list stuff about the #include stuff and the sgi-thing? |
| 01:25.44 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:25.47 | ak|ra | it goes well .. at the moment i am debugging code which is not mine .. makes me sick |
| 01:26.01 | Patlabor221 | welcome to my daily life :) |
| 01:26.10 | ak|ra | i dont understand, what the problem is with the correct headers ... |
| 01:26.32 | Patlabor221 | Tim->anchent build system on his irix :) |
| 01:26.41 | Patlabor221 | not like new headers |
| 01:26.43 | fiberchunks | nah, Gf4 GO |
| 01:26.46 | Patlabor221 | not like .cpp files |
| 01:26.49 | fiberchunks | 32 MB Ram |
| 01:26.58 | Patlabor221 | fiber it should support stencel then |
| 01:27.04 | Patlabor221 | you got good hardware drivers? |
| 01:27.04 | ak|ra | there was one mail i remember: always use .h coz sgi doesnt have <iostream> for example :) |
| 01:27.19 | ak|ra | and thats for sure not true :) |
| 01:27.19 | Patlabor221 | yes I think that was the jist of it |
| 01:27.22 | fiberchunks | yeah, if I can grab some screenshots sometime soon I'll show em to ya -- remember linux here |
| 01:27.24 | ak|ra | -LANG:std |
| 01:27.26 | ak|ra | thats all |
| 01:27.30 | Patlabor221 | well depends on what version |
| 01:27.31 | ak|ra | and it will compile .. |
| 01:27.33 | fiberchunks | so no clickity interface for configuring the thing |
| 01:27.35 | Patlabor221 | I think Tim's on older version |
| 01:27.37 | ak|ra | CC |
| 01:27.55 | ak|ra | our compilers at university are OOOOooolld too |
| 01:27.56 | ak|ra | :) |
| 01:28.04 | Patlabor221 | yes fiber I know, but you do have the Nvidia lin drivers right? |
| 01:28.10 | Patlabor221 | the nvidia not nv? |
| 01:28.14 | ak|ra | sgi is one of the oldest stl - members / conductors .. |
| 01:28.15 | fiberchunks | yah |
| 01:28.37 | fiberchunks | not sure if it's totally configured properly (via X), but the drivers are installed, and it is using them |
| 01:28.41 | Patlabor221 | I don't know much about the SGI build system, but I know they mentioned it wasn't the compiler per say but the build system |
| 01:29.07 | ak|ra | mhh .. |
| 01:29.08 | Patlabor221 | fiber waht bit depth are you in? |
| 01:29.10 | Patlabor221 | 32 or 16? |
| 01:29.28 | fiberchunks | 24 (32) |
| 01:29.33 | ak|ra | i could try to do a compile .. but not before next week |
| 01:29.46 | Patlabor221 | hmm odd then |
| 01:29.57 | ak|ra | so, if tim wants help or whatever -> he should mail me |
| 01:29.58 | Patlabor221 | I don't have any go's |
| 01:30.04 | Patlabor221 | I have some 2mxs |
| 01:30.17 | Patlabor221 | the go is VERY similar to the MX |
| 01:30.23 | sussudio | !uptime |
| 01:30.25 | Piggy | Bot Uptime: (2 days 11 hours 6 minutes 25 seconds) System Uptime: (11 days, 9:48) Squeeeeeel!!! |
| 01:30.28 | Patlabor221 | I will look at the nvida dev pagets |
| 01:30.43 | Patlabor221 | get a 4400 and OC it |
| 01:30.51 | ak|ra | OC ? |
| 01:30.56 | ak|ra | ah |
| 01:30.56 | ak|ra | ok |
| 01:30.57 | Patlabor221 | over clock it |
| 01:30.59 | ak|ra | got it |
| 01:31.00 | ak|ra | yep |
| 01:31.06 | ak|ra | wasnt online for a long time .. |
| 01:31.09 | Patlabor221 | can get faster then a 4600 then |
| 01:31.10 | fiberchunks | it has the following symptom: slow as hell, and there are black polygons all over the place in front of my player view that jitter in and out |
| 01:31.22 | fiberchunks | heh, this is a laptop Patlabor221, not a desktop :)0 |
| 01:31.24 | Patlabor221 | ewwwww |
| 01:31.26 | ak|ra | and so i lost my basic irc-skillz .. if there were any :) |
| 01:31.33 | Patlabor221 | yes I know fiber |
| 01:31.40 | Patlabor221 | they only put the go's in laps |
| 01:31.46 | ak|ra | but if i oc a ti4600 it can be faster then a 44 :)) |
| 01:31.51 | ak|ra | whatever .. |
| 01:31.55 | Patlabor221 | but the chip is similar to the 4MX |
| 01:32.02 | ak|ra | did anyone of you saw bowling? |
| 01:32.06 | Patlabor221 | the 4600's don't OC that well |
| 01:32.22 | Patlabor221 | I may have a lap with a 2go somewhere |
| 01:32.36 | ak|ra | Patlabor221: i think i will by the 4200 .. enough power for me .. |
| 01:32.51 | Patlabor221 | I have a 4200 in this machine and it's fine |
| 01:32.52 | ak|ra | still running a tnt2 and still fine ... |
| 01:33.11 | Patlabor221 | this thing is faster then my radion 9700 |
| 01:33.22 | Patlabor221 | at BZ at least |
| 01:33.23 | ak|ra | so, anyone here who bowling for columbine? |
| 01:34.07 | fiberchunks | bowling for columbine? |
| 01:34.11 | ak|ra | the movie? |
| 01:34.33 | fiberchunks | heh, thought it was some sort of idiotic fundraiser :-| |
| 01:34.40 | ak|ra | the docu from michael moore |
| 01:35.01 | fiberchunks | nah didn't see it, is it a comedy, or a /real/ documentary |
| 01:35.51 | ak|ra | a bit from both |
| 01:36.06 | fiberchunks | he tends to do that in his movies, that's why I asked |
| 01:36.14 | ak|ra | its about the little yound-kids-went-crazy-in-the-school |
| 01:36.50 | ak|ra | i liked it very much |
| 01:37.04 | fiberchunks | hrm, perhaps I should check it out |
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| 01:37.22 | ak|ra | last tuesday me and my girl went in nemesis .. the english version |
| 01:38.08 | ak|ra | aaah .. that was nice and mellow ... all the stupid idiots normally watching this kind of movies on tuesdays were gone coz they could not follow :)) |
| 01:38.24 | ak|ra | tuesday is cinema-day ... here in germany .. |
| 01:39.02 | greg1 | bye |
| 01:40.30 | Patlabor221 | yay missile allmost has decent UV maps |
| 01:40.59 | fiberchunks | what does UV stand for again? |
| 01:41.43 | Patlabor221 | Texture coordingates |
| 01:42.00 | Patlabor221 | those numbers that map the triangle verst to the texuture map |
| 01:42.03 | fiberchunks | ah, so linear algebra matrices U V |
| 01:42.19 | Patlabor221 | They just call them that |
| 01:42.24 | Patlabor221 | sometimes S and T |
| 01:42.33 | ak|ra | sometime S T U :9 |
| 01:42.45 | ak|ra | so, good bye all |
| 01:42.48 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 01:43.02 | Patlabor221 | usaly you say UVW are texture and XYZ are pos |
| 01:43.19 | Patlabor221 | W being the "MAGIC" coordinate :) |
| 01:43.35 | fiberchunks | heh -- what is W -- the normal to a surface? |
| 01:43.54 | Patlabor221 | no Z for a 3d texture |
| 01:44.06 | Patlabor221 | a normal would take 3 components |
| 01:44.27 | Patlabor221 | and there are 2 types of normals :) |
| 01:44.34 | Patlabor221 | face norms and vert norms |
| 01:44.44 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:44.49 | fiberchunks | yah, makes sense |
| 01:45.03 | fiberchunks | then what do you mean by magic? |
| 01:45.12 | Patlabor221 | just that noone ever uses it |
| 01:45.24 | Patlabor221 | not many cards suport hardware 3d textures :) |
| 01:45.35 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:46.14 | fiberchunks | speaking of cards, what does the 'high-end' line of nvidia cards get you (not the GeForce line, the one above that) |
| 01:46.25 | fiberchunks | FireGL or some such thing? |
| 01:46.56 | Patlabor221 | ohh the quadros |
| 01:46.57 | fiberchunks | sorry, Quadro |
| 01:47.01 | Patlabor221 | more blend modes |
| 01:47.08 | Patlabor221 | more shaders |
| 01:47.16 | Patlabor221 | more texture modes, ect.. |
| 01:47.17 | fiberchunks | better hardware, in essence :) |
| 01:47.22 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:47.35 | Patlabor221 | well stuff that's used more by things like 3dsMax for it's preview mode |
| 01:47.46 | Patlabor221 | they speed up wireframe for instance |
| 01:47.49 | Patlabor221 | and line drawing |
| 01:47.56 | Patlabor221 | stuff that's not realy needed in games |
| 01:48.00 | fiberchunks | ah, so having a quadro wouldn't necessarily make you're games zip along any better |
| 01:48.03 | Patlabor221 | but uesed more in CAD |
| 01:48.08 | Patlabor221 | not realy |
| 01:48.12 | Patlabor221 | had a quadro |
| 01:48.17 | Patlabor221 | Q1 |
| 01:48.26 | Patlabor221 | ran about as fast ad a GF2 ultra |
| 01:48.38 | Patlabor221 | actualy we had 4 quadros at one point |
| 01:48.54 | Patlabor221 | came from nvidia in the coolest boxes |
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| 01:48.59 | Patlabor221 | looked like ammo cans |
| 01:49.02 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:49.04 | Patlabor221 | from like the army |
| 01:49.35 | fiberchunks | by the way, according to the pig, I am your loyal follower :\ |
| 01:49.56 | Patlabor221 | better then doug |
| 01:50.02 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:50.03 | Patlabor221 | I just talk more then you :) |
| 01:50.26 | fiberchunks | if we keep this question-answer thing up, we'll be neck and neck :) |
| 01:50.38 | Patlabor221 | naw I babble in my sleep |
| 01:50.45 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:50.50 | Patlabor221 | all you have to do is ask |
| 01:51.00 | fiberchunks | under what pretense? |
| 01:51.13 | Patlabor221 | hell for the quadro's they sent them to my house. |
| 01:51.18 | Patlabor221 | trying out stuff |
| 01:51.25 | Patlabor221 | and you need to be a regesterd dev |
| 01:51.29 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:51.40 | Patlabor221 | we thought they were sending one |
| 01:51.44 | Patlabor221 | the sent 4 |
| 01:51.50 | fiberchunks | what a shame |
| 01:51.58 | Patlabor221 | we didn't complain |
| 01:53.02 | fiberchunks | nor would I |
| 01:55.57 | fiberchunks | what the hell is an nForce? |
| 01:56.27 | sussudio | fiberchunks: all-in-one crap chipset |
| 01:56.46 | Patlabor221 | it's a mobo chipset |
| 01:56.53 | Patlabor221 | that has a GF2 in it |
| 01:57.02 | Patlabor221 | nForce2 are looking nice |
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| 01:57.07 | sussudio | actually, i think it emulates a gf2 in cpu |
| 01:57.08 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:57.22 | sussudio | or something awful like that |
| 01:57.42 | sussudio | like winmodems werent bad enough |
| 01:58.43 | Patlabor221 | it sorta does |
| 01:58.53 | Patlabor221 | but it works with the current drivers |
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| 02:01.00 | Patlabor221 | but I don't have one so I can't say |
| 02:01.21 | Patlabor221 | I like my Via KT400 chipset |
| 02:01.23 | Patlabor221 | it's flys |
| 02:02.22 | Vernon | here is something interesting |
| 02:02.37 | Vernon | npeople here probably already know this |
| 02:02.45 | Vernon | npeople <- he he |
| 02:03.08 | *** part/#bzflag isfry (~Fry@host-216-78-241-69.sua.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:03.15 | Vernon | n + "your comment" = too much bzflag |
| 02:03.26 | Vernon | anyway ... |
| 02:03.46 | Patlabor221 | yes that was on the "you been playing too much |
| 02:03.47 | Vernon | there apears to be a practical limit to the number of flags you can host on a map |
| 02:03.48 | Patlabor221 | list |
| 02:04.03 | Patlabor221 | porbably becasue of the placement algo |
| 02:04.21 | Vernon | for instance ... after testing |
| 02:04.43 | Vernon | it appears to correlate to the available bandwidth |
| 02:05.02 | Vernon | with 400 flags ... no one could log on to the server |
| 02:05.02 | Patlabor221 | hmmm it may be a packet size thing |
| 02:05.11 | Patlabor221 | if all the flags are put into one packet |
| 02:05.31 | Vernon | with 377 flags people had to try twice, and then others could not log on |
| 02:05.59 | Vernon | same with 370 |
| 02:06.12 | Patlabor221 | when where they able to get in? |
| 02:06.20 | Vernon | with 350 flags 3 people were able to log on with out any retries |
| 02:06.27 | Patlabor221 | MAC 6 more tri's to go, then I just have to make it purdy. |
| 02:06.39 | Vernon | but i was not able to test for more people logging on at 350 flagsw |
| 02:06.44 | Patlabor221 | maybe it's a feature, the "dude that's way too many flags" feature. |
| 02:06.59 | Vernon | lots of flags is very cool |
| 02:07.08 | Vernon | nit adds a new dimension to the game |
| 02:07.15 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 02:07.20 | Vernon | nit <- he he |
| 02:07.29 | Vernon | with that many flags |
| 02:07.31 | Patlabor221 | good and bad? or just good? |
| 02:07.41 | Vernon | you almost cannot even see the tanks on the radar |
| 02:07.55 | Vernon | you can hid in the flags :) |
| 02:08.02 | Vernon | s/hid/hide/ |
| 02:08.21 | Patlabor221 | well if I can do my next map object, then you could just put grass in the maps |
| 02:08.22 | Vernon | neveryone i've played with said they liked it |
| 02:08.29 | fiberchunks | ROFL |
| 02:08.33 | Patlabor221 | good and bad? |
| 02:08.34 | fiberchunks | stop that! ;) |
| 02:09.02 | Vernon | so anyway even at 400 flags ... any computer on the lan here could log in no problem |
| 02:09.28 | Patlabor221 | bet then each flag is sent individualy, and there is a timeout. |
| 02:09.36 | Vernon | only when folks tried to log on through the cable modem did they have problems |
| 02:09.50 | Vernon | so somehow it correlates with lag or bandwidth |
| 02:09.58 | Patlabor221 | most likely a timeout |
| 02:10.03 | Patlabor221 | so it would be both |
| 02:10.13 | Patlabor221 | latecny and data speed. |
| 02:10.14 | Vernon | i can get the exact error message that bzfs gives if anyone is interested ... |
| 02:10.22 | Patlabor221 | sure what is it |
| 02:10.27 | Vernon | ok just a sec |
| 02:10.29 | Vernon | ... |
| 02:10.58 | Patlabor221 | "BZFS Error: 1065 Dude, WTF?" |
| 02:11.08 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 02:11.40 | Patlabor221 | ok checklist to leave |
| 02:11.48 | Patlabor221 | Bad live action movie--- check |
| 02:11.56 | Patlabor221 | bad anime movie--- check |
| 02:12.06 | Patlabor221 | free anime movie -- check |
| 02:12.20 | Patlabor221 | big ass $10 magazene - check |
| 02:12.28 | Patlabor221 | gots to go to job 2 |
| 02:12.32 | Vernon | the message was: |
| 02:12.33 | Patlabor221 | be back in a bit |
| 02:12.37 | Vernon | accept() from 24.236.133.150:1104 on 8 |
| 02:12.39 | Patlabor221 | or not |
| 02:12.42 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 02:12.43 | Vernon | dropping unresponsive player 0 (widowmaker) with 16436 bytes queued |
| 02:13.01 | Patlabor221 | yeah timeout, the client took too long to get all the flags |
| 02:13.12 | Patlabor221 | should increase the timeout based on flag count. |
| 02:13.20 | Vernon | is there a setting on the server which would help? |
| 02:13.26 | Vernon | or even one on the client? |
| 02:13.27 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 02:13.36 | Patlabor221 | it would be hardcoded |
| 02:13.42 | Vernon | Oh ok |
| 02:13.44 | Patlabor221 | I will look at it when I get to the other office. |
| 02:13.46 | Patlabor221 | brb |
| 02:13.52 | Vernon | anyway ... i thought it was interesting |
| 02:14.00 | Vernon | cya |
| 02:14.04 | Vernon | l8tr |
| 02:14.18 | sussudio | as long as you dont crosspost it 5 f**** times on bzboard |
| 02:14.39 | Vernon | sussudio: who me? |
| 02:14.54 | sussudio | like someone else i shouldnt mention |
| 02:14.59 | sussudio | *cough* dervish *cough* |
| 02:15.03 | Vernon | Oh |
| 02:15.29 | Vernon | crosspost what? the issue i was talking about? |
| 02:15.43 | sussudio | no, something insignificant he got all wet in the pants over |
| 02:15.50 | Vernon | he he |
| 02:17.15 | fiberchunks | heh sussudio, you're just bitter ;-) |
| 02:17.33 | sussudio | something he felt the need to spew into the channel and message people about too... |
| 02:18.16 | Vernon | anyway what do you folks think of this flag limitation issue? |
| 02:18.32 | Vernon | it's not much of an issue, but it was interesting to me |
| 02:18.42 | sussudio | apart from "dont put 400 flags on a map"? |
| 02:18.47 | Vernon | he he |
| 02:19.00 | fiberchunks | personally, I think that in a world only 800x800, anything greater than 150 flags is a bit much -- when the world sizes increase, then it'll be necessary for sure |
| 02:19.24 | Vernon | hey you ought to try it ... as the game progresses |
| 02:19.44 | Vernon | you can see the regions on the map where everyone dies :) |
| 02:20.00 | Vernon | so don;t hang out there ... |
| 02:20.08 | Vernon | unless you want a flag :) |
| 02:20.09 | sussudio | i have the flagtoggle patch..... |
| 02:20.18 | Vernon | what's that? |
| 02:20.28 | sussudio | it turns off all damn flags on radar and/or field |
| 02:20.35 | Vernon | Oh cool! |
| 02:20.51 | sussudio | it makes turkey almost playable |
| 02:20.57 | Vernon | why is that not in the released client? |
| 02:21.04 | sussudio | *shrug*. |
| 02:21.19 | Vernon | now _that_ is a real issue ... |
| 02:21.26 | Vernon | that should be in the client |
| 02:21.28 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/bzflag/patched/ |
| 02:21.36 | Vernon | Thanks |
| 02:21.40 | sussudio | leeeeeeenux and windoze binary and patch for g0 source |
| 02:21.50 | sussudio | only g0 source, not cvs |
| 02:22.02 | Vernon | what's the difference? |
| 02:22.12 | Vernon | between g0 source and CVS source? |
| 02:22.15 | sussudio | different source.... |
| 02:22.21 | Vernon | huh? |
| 02:22.24 | Vernon | Oh! |
| 02:22.32 | sussudio | it wont patch against anything but g0 cause the source is different |
| 02:22.34 | Vernon | CVS being the most recent version |
| 02:22.39 | sussudio | yeah |
| 02:22.52 | Vernon | and g0 being the latest stable or something |
| 02:23.06 | Vernon | sorry ... i am an idiot ... |
| 02:23.09 | sussudio | well public beta, whatever it is |
| 02:23.26 | Vernon | i am used to thinking about CVS being able to check out _any_ version you'd like |
| 02:23.52 | sussudio | cvs is g1 versions you see floating around |
| 02:23.58 | Vernon | Hmm so would the g0 vs current CVS be _that_ much different? |
| 02:24.16 | sussudio | yeah.... cap or someone else changed the structure of the files |
| 02:24.28 | Vernon | *yuck* |
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| 02:24.57 | Vernon | wb Patlabor221 ... he he |
| 02:25.16 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 02:25.16 | sussudio | anyway, the files on my homepage are binary executable only, you'll still need the rest of |
| 02:25.16 | sussudio | the package..... |
| 02:25.21 | Patlabor221 | not that far of a drive |
| 02:25.21 | Vernon | everyone here thinks that 400 flags is too many anyway ;) |
| 02:26.14 | Vernon | G'nite |
| 02:26.20 | sussudio | cu |
| 02:26.20 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 02:26.23 | fiberchunks | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.23 | fiberchunks | what the /flag up bug? |
| 02:26.40 | fiberchunks | interesting -- I goofed up in xchat, and issued /flag up as an xchat command, now I can't join any fargin channels :-| |
| 02:26.49 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 02:26.51 | fiberchunks | oh well, time to go do something important |
| 02:26.57 | Patlabor221 | pee? |
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| 02:29.50 | fiberchunks | odd, something happened to my xchat client there for a minute -- hrm |
| 02:31.00 | fiberchunks | oh well, away to do something pseudo-important again ;) |
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| 03:10.33 | Vernon | Can you folks help me test my server? |
| 03:10.53 | Vernon | looking to see how many people will be able to log on ... |
| 03:11.14 | Vernon | pretty sure it will be limited by bandwidth due to the number of flags ... |
| 03:11.22 | Vernon | which is 350. |
| 03:11.23 | [dmp] | i con join, but i'm going to bed soon |
| 03:11.31 | Vernon | thanks |
| 03:11.39 | Vernon | vernon.is-a-geek.org 5155 |
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| 03:50.48 | MrApathyCream | Hmmm, i'm getting link errors on net.lib unresolved ref to printError in common |
| 03:50.52 | MrApathyCream | any ideas anyone? |
| 03:51.07 | MrApathyCream | I modified printError to have a vector<string> as a parm |
| 03:51.37 | MrApathyCream | worked fine, when vector<string> wasn't a parm |
| 03:54.04 | MrApathyCream | anyone, buehler? |
| 03:54.47 | Patlabor221 | <me> Ducko what links don't work in your map |
| 03:55.13 | Patlabor221 | <me> ducko, I can't dupe your bug, give me specifics. |
| 03:55.28 | Patlabor221 | <duko> why haven't you submited my bug, is there a problem? |
| 03:55.36 | Patlabor221 | I give up |
| 03:56.31 | MrApathyCream | saw it |
| 03:56.37 | Patlabor221 | you did? |
| 03:56.41 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 03:56.44 | Patlabor221 | does it hapen all the time? |
| 03:56.51 | MrApathyCream | nono, saw the bzbb traffic |
| 03:56.55 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 03:57.01 | Patlabor221 | I looked at his map when it was packed |
| 03:57.04 | Patlabor221 | just under 3k |
| 03:57.07 | Patlabor221 | sorry 2k |
| 03:58.04 | Patlabor221 | and apernalty BZedit has HUGE coruption issues, but he won't give me any specifics |
| 03:58.14 | Patlabor221 | or he just dosn't like the interface |
| 04:00.14 | Patlabor221 | tho I'm betting there is a bug in the drawing code. |
| 04:00.31 | Patlabor221 | at least the list iterator part |
| 04:02.52 | Patlabor221 | I should have more time to finsh Mr.HappyGM tomorow |
| 04:03.03 | Patlabor221 | I said I was going to "work" |
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| 04:31.58 | Patlabor221 | DOUGLAS BARTHOLEMEW HECKAMAN GET YOUR BUTT IN HERE!!!!!!! |
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| 04:38.58 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lart creeperz |
| 04:39.09 | [STC]_creeperz | So long....YES!! |
| 04:40.00 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 04:40.16 | [STC]_creeperz | WOW!! People! Slow down!! Can't hear you ALL talk at once! |
| 04:40.33 | [STC]_creeperz | To "~lart" someone |
| 04:40.34 | Patlabor221 | most people are gone or asleep |
| 04:40.39 | [STC]_creeperz | lol |
| 04:40.49 | [STC]_creeperz | BZFlag: Zero? |
| 04:40.56 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:41.02 | [STC]_creeperz | Awesome |
| 04:41.19 | [STC]_creeperz | You make it yourself? Or with a group of people? |
| 04:41.52 | Patlabor221 | its just some mods to normal BZ |
| 04:41.56 | [STC]_creeperz | Jeff? |
| 04:41.58 | [STC]_creeperz | oh |
| 04:42.04 | [STC]_creeperz | Its awesome |
| 04:42.21 | [STC]_creeperz | You mod yourself? |
| 04:42.22 | Patlabor221 | it will get better with time too. |
| 04:42.28 | Patlabor221 | pardon? |
| 04:42.39 | [STC]_creeperz | you modify it yourself? |
| 04:42.49 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:43.03 | [STC]_creeperz | sweet |
| 04:43.21 | [STC]_creeperz | UUGH!! This girl will not shut up on MSN!! |
| 04:43.28 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lart girl on MSN |
| 04:43.39 | [STC]_creeperz | ewww |
| 04:43.43 | Patlabor221 | then block her |
| 04:43.55 | [STC]_creeperz | She's kinda my friend |
| 04:44.13 | [STC]_creeperz | Then when she seems like shes gunna stop she starts again!!\ |
| 04:45.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Jeff: wanna battle me in BZFlag Zero for a while? |
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| 04:45.20 | Patlabor221 | I'm at work |
| 04:45.23 | Patlabor221 | so I can't |
| 04:45.25 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
| 04:45.41 | [STC]_creeperz | Darn |
| 04:45.49 | [STC]_creeperz | Whats up with Gibbscam.com?? |
| 04:45.53 | Patlabor221 | how many servers show up for it |
| 04:45.57 | Patlabor221 | what do you mean? |
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| 04:46.00 | [STC]_creeperz | 1 |
| 04:46.11 | Patlabor221 | GibbsCAM is one of my jobs. |
| 04:46.19 | hiall1 | i will STC but it wont let me in |
| 04:46.35 | [STC]_creeperz | What you do there? |
| 04:46.50 | Patlabor221 | what client are you usingt hiall1 |
| 04:46.58 | Patlabor221 | I am a software developer |
| 04:47.13 | hiall1 | bz zero |
| 04:47.25 | Patlabor221 | does the server show in the list for you? |
| 04:47.31 | [STC]_creeperz | you dont want to talk to me no more or what? >>Thats the girl's response! |
| 04:47.31 | Patlabor221 | if you say "find server"? |
| 04:48.22 | Patlabor221 | ragnarok is one of the perma servers so it should allways show up |
| 04:48.30 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh, Jeff, I like the thingy where you can scroll on your callsign |
| 04:48.37 | Patlabor221 | I'm having problems keepin Asgart running. |
| 04:48.44 | [STC]_creeperz | What? |
| 04:48.46 | Patlabor221 | the what? |
| 04:48.57 | Patlabor221 | sorry Asgard, it's a server. |
| 04:49.07 | Patlabor221 | ragnrok is the test server |
| 04:49.17 | [STC]_creeperz | If you go to the callsign are and hit left, it will scroll left with the thingy |
| 04:49.19 | [STC]_creeperz | lol |
| 04:49.28 | Patlabor221 | I didn't add that |
| 04:49.32 | Patlabor221 | that's part of G0 |
| 04:49.34 | [STC]_creeperz | BZFlag 1.7g0 won't |
| 04:49.41 | Patlabor221 | well it's part of G1 |
| 04:49.46 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
| 04:49.48 | [STC]_creeperz | Cool |
| 04:49.50 | hiall1 | brb in 2 |
| 04:49.51 | Patlabor221 | I didn't change the interface at all |
| 04:49.54 | Patlabor221 | not yet anyway |
| 04:49.57 | [STC]_creeperz | Who will play me a Zero? |
| 04:50.01 | [STC]_creeperz | oh |
| 04:50.38 | [STC]_creeperz | Whats a quick name for BZFlag: Zero, Jeff? |
| 04:50.55 | Patlabor221 | BZ:0 |
| 04:50.56 | [STC]_creeperz | BZF0? |
| 04:51.03 | [STC]_creeperz | good |
| 04:51.08 | [STC]_creeperz | BZ:0 |
| 04:51.19 | [STC]_creeperz | Who will play me BZ"0? |
| 04:51.24 | [STC]_creeperz | BZ:0? |
| 04:51.31 | Patlabor221 | not many people have it yet |
| 04:51.36 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh yea |
| 04:51.47 | [STC]_creeperz | Want me to, uhh, spread the word?? |
| 04:51.57 | Patlabor221 | they know about it |
| 04:52.12 | [STC]_creeperz | Wouldn't it be possible to just type in a server name (a normal one) and get onto it? |
| 04:52.15 | Patlabor221 | more will play when it has the new GM. |
| 04:52.19 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 04:52.25 | Patlabor221 | it will not connect to normal servers |
| 04:52.27 | [STC]_creeperz | good |
| 04:52.35 | [STC]_creeperz | New GM? |
| 04:52.39 | Patlabor221 | the net protocoll is difrent |
| 04:52.42 | [STC]_creeperz | Camera GM? |
| 04:52.42 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:52.44 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 04:52.48 | [STC]_creeperz | no? |
| 04:52.50 | Patlabor221 | it will be a missle |
| 04:52.58 | Patlabor221 | camera GL would be lame |
| 04:52.59 | [STC]_creeperz | ... |
| 04:53.15 | [STC]_creeperz | You should make a grenade! |
| 04:53.31 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 04:53.51 | Patlabor221 | tho it's more then just munchkin wep upgrades. |
| 04:53.53 | [STC]_creeperz | Push "G" and fire to throw one... 30m high, 50m range. |
| 04:54.15 | Patlabor221 | right now shots don't realy change in Z |
| 04:54.21 | Patlabor221 | GM is the only one that does that |
| 04:54.25 | hiall1 | got it to work i had to download the version again |
| 04:54.30 | [STC]_creeperz | What you mean?? |
| 04:54.40 | hiall1 | STC wanna play |
| 04:54.42 | Patlabor221 | when you fire, the shots don't go up or down |
| 04:54.50 | [STC]_creeperz | Sure..in JAS tho |
| 04:54.50 | Patlabor221 | only with GM they do. |
| 04:54.55 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh yea |
| 04:54.55 | Patlabor221 | JAS? |
| 04:55.00 | [STC]_creeperz | Just a sec |
| 04:55.05 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 04:55.47 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea, it would add alot of lag wouldn't it though?? For dial-up? |
| 04:56.19 | Patlabor221 | it would not affect lag at all now. |
| 04:56.29 | [STC]_creeperz | ...Shadows |
| 04:56.49 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh well, I don't know much. |
| 04:56.56 | [STC]_creeperz | l I know is that the game is awesome |
| 04:57.01 | Patlabor221 | it is just an extra axis. |
| 04:57.07 | [STC]_creeperz | Well, I better get on the battlefields |
| 04:57.13 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
| 04:57.15 | [STC]_creeperz | Later |
| 05:00.42 | Patlabor221 | cya |
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| 05:09.09 | hi | STC u here |
| 05:10.30 | hi | anyone wanna have a game of bzflagzero |
| 05:11.12 | hi | cya |
| 05:21.41 | fiberchunks | wow |
| 05:22.09 | Patlabor221 | wow? |
| 05:23.09 | fiberchunks | reading above |
| 05:23.17 | Patlabor221 | hoooo yea |
| 05:24.06 | fiberchunks | that and I am constantly baffled why people label tutorials as cross-platform and then have all these lovely windows-specific things in it without #ifdefs (such as #include <windows.h> ) :-| |
| 05:24.40 | Patlabor221 | shouldn't be more then stuff like that tho |
| 05:24.46 | Patlabor221 | what tut are you doing? |
| 05:24.59 | fiberchunks | just some generic C++ shite that I found out there |
| 05:25.37 | fiberchunks | was fiddling with some console silliness, and that is highly platform dependent, it seems |
| 05:27.07 | Patlabor221 | vas? |
| 05:27.13 | Patlabor221 | sleep? |
| 05:27.16 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 05:27.17 | Patlabor221 | it's only 9:27 |
| 05:27.35 | fiberchunks | yah, but you do work 2 jobs right? |
| 05:27.35 | Patlabor221 | I am west cost reemember :) |
| 05:27.38 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 05:27.40 | Patlabor221 | am at one now |
| 05:27.49 | fiberchunks | do you work both 40 hours? |
| 05:27.58 | Patlabor221 | noooooooo |
| 05:28.01 | Patlabor221 | #2 is like 3 days a week |
| 05:28.07 | fiberchunks | ah, that makes sense then |
| 05:28.12 | Patlabor221 | wed and friday about 3-4 hours |
| 05:28.19 | Patlabor221 | and about 6 or so on sunday |
| 05:28.40 | Patlabor221 | tho soon this one will be done, and I shall be FREEEE |
| 05:28.54 | fiberchunks | lol - web development? |
| 05:28.58 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 05:29.01 | Patlabor221 | ebay software |
| 05:29.09 | Patlabor221 | tho I was doing web stuff for a while there |
| 05:30.01 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:31.23 | Patlabor221 | then you should get one. |
| 05:32.10 | fiberchunks | trying to, the wait list is 2 months -- so I have a pharmacy downstairs |
| 05:32.22 | Patlabor221 | 2 months wow |
| 05:32.33 | Patlabor221 | jsut for a scan? |
| 05:33.03 | Patlabor221 | I've had some type of scan tingy, but they just put me in the machines and let them fly |
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| 05:37.06 | fiberchunks | fun! |
| 05:37.17 | Patlabor221 | so it seems |
| 05:37.31 | Patlabor221 | I must rememeber to KILL doug when he wakes up |
| 05:37.39 | fiberchunks | what did he do now? |
| 05:37.48 | Patlabor221 | lied |
| 05:37.53 | fiberchunks | uh oh |
| 05:38.03 | Patlabor221 | he's out there using a version of Zero on normal servers. |
| 05:38.16 | fiberchunks | oooooo, kick his ass |
| 05:38.22 | Patlabor221 | and telling people I made it |
| 05:38.28 | Patlabor221 | so I get people asking for my "cheat" |
| 05:38.38 | fiberchunks | so you're getting all the grief, wonderful |
| 05:38.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:38.46 | fiberchunks | ~lart bzdoug__ |
| 05:38.54 | fiberchunks | beautiful |
| 05:39.08 | Patlabor221 | there is only 1 version of Zero that ran on regular servers |
| 05:39.14 | Patlabor221 | and he is the ONLY one who had it |
| 05:39.15 | fiberchunks | the original one |
| 05:39.19 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 05:39.36 | fiberchunks | cept once with jzaun, on a private server |
| 05:39.47 | Patlabor221 | it was a win only bin, you sure you have it |
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| 05:40.13 | fiberchunks | yah -- I connected to jzaun.com with it (and no, it was not a bz:0 server) |
| 05:40.28 | Patlabor221 | hmm , didn't think that sucker worked on lin. |
| 05:40.33 | fiberchunks | sure did |
| 05:40.44 | Patlabor221 | well now that there is a perma zero server |
| 05:40.55 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 05:41.00 | Patlabor221 | would be 2 if ASgard would keep the damn thing running |
| 05:41.00 | fiberchunks | what's the address? |
| 05:41.09 | fiberchunks | what's wrong with asgard |
| 05:41.16 | Patlabor221 | ragnarok.bakadigital.com |
| 05:41.19 | Patlabor221 | I start a server |
| 05:41.28 | Patlabor221 | then it closes when log off |
| 05:41.38 | Patlabor221 | didn't used to do that |
| 05:41.55 | fiberchunks | oooo, that was a known issue with regular bzflag -- can't remember where I saw the bug though |
| 05:42.01 | fiberchunks | mebbe in the forums |
| 05:42.24 | Patlabor221 | maybe I'll just set a script or something to do it on launch |
| 05:42.46 | Patlabor221 | actualy I should proalby not have the thing in my home dir |
| 05:44.00 | Patlabor221 | hmm if I could get like $400 I could make a real world BZ flag game :) |
| 05:44.07 | fiberchunks | the old ones, not mine |
| 05:44.23 | fiberchunks | a what? |
| 05:44.31 | Patlabor221 | real world BZ game |
| 05:44.40 | Patlabor221 | remote comp controlled tanks |
| 05:44.45 | fiberchunks | ah, cool |
| 05:44.46 | Patlabor221 | with cameras and lazers on them |
| 05:45.10 | Patlabor221 | then route the cam inputs to capture cards |
| 05:45.10 | fiberchunks | 'all I want is a shark with a frickin' laser beam on it's head' |
| 05:45.11 | Patlabor221 | and put them on the net |
| 05:45.35 | Patlabor221 | if I could figure out an inductive charger that would be near |
| 05:45.36 | Patlabor221 | neat |
| 05:46.14 | jacques_gone | man sprint is a POS |
| 05:46.15 | Patlabor221 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5776/ |
| 05:46.24 | Patlabor221 | it's an IR lazer |
| 05:46.27 | jacques_gone | half the fking internet is unreachable right now |
| 05:46.42 | fiberchunks | uber cul |
| 05:46.43 | Patlabor221 | hits a sensor on the other tanks and makes it shut down |
| 05:47.19 | Patlabor221 | they also have REALY small ones |
| 05:47.28 | Patlabor221 | like the size of those tinny RC cars |
| 05:47.36 | Patlabor221 | and the turrets actualy moce |
| 05:47.37 | Patlabor221 | move |
| 05:48.14 | Patlabor221 | wonder who cut a line to the net |
| 05:48.35 | jacques_gone | sprint is ass |
| 05:48.42 | jacques_gone | they have been having problems for days |
| 05:48.48 | jacques_gone | and now it just got serious |
| 05:49.01 | jacques_gone | bastages |
| 05:49.09 | Patlabor221 | that sucks |
| 05:49.20 | Patlabor221 | sounds like my cue to go home and watch bad movies. |
| 05:49.30 | jacques_gone | yeah me top |
| 05:49.42 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 05:49.50 | fiberchunks | later on y'all |
| 05:52.22 | jacques_gone | the whole damn US net is going down |
| 05:52.26 | jacques_gone | the sky is falling |
| 05:52.41 | jacques_gone | it's TEOTWAWKI |
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| 07:17.22 | TimRiker | so played on xmission today? |
| 07:17.25 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 07:38.08 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 07:41.58 | captain_proton | xmission back? |
| 07:42.08 | TimRiker | back, lower limits. |
| 07:42.23 | TimRiker | set to 4,4,2,2 now. 5,5,5,5 was using > T1 outgoing. |
| 07:43.02 | TimRiker | now it's at "362kbps out/ 58kbps in" according to a xmission tech. |
| 07:43.28 | TimRiker | it's on a new box, but hosted at the same place. |
| 07:52.03 | *** join/#bzflag anotherScanline (~micah@aden2-42-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 07:56.46 | TimRiker | running about 8000 packets per second outgoing to 12 players. |
| 07:57.25 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 07:57.51 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery bzflag.xmission.com:5155 |
| 07:58.32 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 07:58.37 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery bzflag.xmission.com:5155 |
| 07:58.42 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery bzflag.xmission.com:5155 |
| 07:58.47 | TimRiker | heh |
| 08:00.22 | TimRiker | server is maxed out. 12 players and 1 observer. |
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| 08:21.33 | TimRiker | The keep-alive mechanism for Microsoft SQL Server 2000 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (bandwidth consumption) via a "ping" style packet to the Resolution Service (UDP port 1434) with a spoofed IP address of another SQL Server system, which causes the two servers to exchange packets in an infinite loop. |
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| 08:28.03 | TimRiker | http://average.matrix.net/Daily/markP.html <- heh, the Internet is falling apart! ;-) |
| 08:29.07 | scanline | Thanks to Microsoft SQL Server? : |
| 08:29.08 | scanline | :) |
| 08:29.41 | TimRiker | yepper. gotta love the high quality of commercial software. |
| 08:30.14 | scanline | It's a good thing the internet doesn't run any open source software, then it would be really doomed! |
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| 08:58.12 | MrApathyCream | [nr] tank has enemy flag on xmission, making it impossible to lose :) |
| 09:09.59 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 09:11.03 | TimRiker | not there anymore. |
| 09:18.10 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 09:45.25 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 09:56.36 | MrApathyCream | pyr > 0 prob, fixed |
| 10:00.24 | MrApathyCream | bedtime |
| 10:00.37 | TimRiker | ~spell derivitive |
| 10:00.39 | | possible spellings for derivitive: derivative derivatives derivate derivative's derivatively derogative privative definitive directive derisive divisive |
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| 10:16.36 | TimRiker | network.cxx: In function `void nerror(const char *)': |
| 10:16.36 | TimRiker | network.cxx:36: passing `const char *' as argument 2 of `printError(const string &, const vector<basic_str |
| 10:16.36 | TimRiker | ing<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,allocator<basic_string<char,string_ch |
| 10:16.36 | TimRiker | ar_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > > > *)' |
| 10:16.36 | TimRiker | network.cxx:38: passing `char *' as argument 2 of `printError(const string &, const vector<basic_string<ch |
| 10:16.37 | TimRiker | ar,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,allocator<basic_string<char,string_char_tra |
| 10:16.39 | TimRiker | its<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > > > *)' |
| 10:16.41 | TimRiker | network.cxx: In function `void bzfherror(const char *)': |
| 10:16.43 | TimRiker | network.cxx:44: passing `const char *' as argument 2 of `printError(const string &, const vector<basic_str |
| 10:16.45 | TimRiker | ing<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,allocator<basic_string<char,string_ch |
| 10:16.47 | TimRiker | ar_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > > > *)' |
| 10:16.49 | TimRiker | network.cxx:46: passing `const char *' as argument 2 of `printError(const string &, const vector<basic_str |
| 10:16.51 | TimRiker | ing<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,allocator<basic_string<char,string_ch |
| 10:16.53 | TimRiker | ar_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > > > *)' |
| 10:16.57 | TimRiker | network.cxx: In function `static class string BzfNetwork::dereferenceHTTP(const string &, int, const strin |
| 10:16.59 | TimRiker | g |
| 10:38.04 | TimRiker | ibot botmail for MrApathyCream: std::vector<std::string> *parms stuff is way broken under Linux gcc 2.95 please recode or revert the patches. |
| 10:39.38 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
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| 11:33.23 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
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| 11:42.40 | [dmp] | hi Chestal |
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| 12:26.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
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| 12:34.12 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
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| 12:55.06 | calico | good morning |
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| 12:56.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_proton] by ChanServ |
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| 12:57.09 | [dmp] | hi calico |
| 13:05.46 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
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| 13:07.06 | strayer | hi all :) |
| 13:07.27 | [dmp] | lemme guess, it worked :) |
| 13:09.33 | strayer | yupp :) |
| 13:13.24 | *** part/#bzflag strayer (~s-t-r-a-y@pD9E1A961.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:21.10 | calico | hi |
| 13:21.13 | calico | dmp |
| 13:21.59 | calico | wow i havent seen strayer in a long time |
| 13:22.23 | calico | ~ducatictf |
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| 13:38.54 | greg1 | Hi |
| 13:45.58 | [dmp] | any ducati admins here? |
| 13:46.28 | [dmp] | "the killer" keeps shooting teammaets, and try to bring our flag to the other base :-\ |
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| 13:46.37 | sussudio | hrmpf |
| 13:46.48 | sussudio | bzflag crashed on me |
| 13:47.13 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
| 13:49.08 | greg1 | does anyone know how/where can I find CTF-2 map like we can find on ducati ? |
| 13:53.09 | Chestal | greg1: it's a random map |
| 13:53.19 | Chestal | greg1: use -cr to enable CTF with random maps |
| 13:53.52 | greg1 | Chestal : thank you |
| 13:56.23 | greg1 | Chestal : do I need to specify -c -cr or just -cr ? |
| 13:56.30 | Chestal | just cr |
| 13:57.15 | greg1 | Chestal : it doesn't work, it dumps me help command line :( |
| 13:57.30 | greg1 | ver1.7e4 |
| 13:57.37 | Chestal | ah, that version is ancient |
| 13:57.48 | greg1 | grml....debian :) |
| 13:57.57 | Chestal | stable? |
| 13:57.59 | greg1 | yes |
| 13:58.44 | greg1 | ok, I'll get the last stable tarball and compile it |
| 13:58.44 | Chestal | wel, either upgrade your debian or compile bzflag yourself |
| 13:59.31 | greg1 | Chestal : I'll make my own package, thx Chestal :) |
| 14:23.17 | greg1 | it is quite better with the latest man pag |
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| 15:05.12 | fontenot | aha |
| 15:05.22 | fontenot | so it wasn't just sprint being sprint |
| 15:05.38 | fontenot | apparently there was a widespread attack on the internet last night |
| 15:05.44 | bzdoug_ | oh? |
| 15:05.47 | bzdoug_ | I dint notice |
| 15:05.47 | bzdoug_ | :P |
| 15:05.53 | fontenot | http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/topstory2/1750941 |
| 15:05.56 | fontenot | AP story |
| 15:05.59 | bzdoug_ | hmm, that web site is down |
| 15:06.03 | bzdoug_ | ~slashdot |
| 15:06.12 | fontenot | which web site is down? |
| 15:06.19 | fontenot | I am browsing that site right now |
| 15:06.23 | bzdoug_ | http://www.equis.com |
| 15:06.28 | bzdoug_ | :P |
| 15:06.48 | fontenot | oh I am browsing www.chron.com - anyway it's the sql server thing |
| 15:06.56 | bzdoug_ | oh |
| 15:06.58 | bzdoug_ | virus? |
| 15:06.59 | fontenot | MS POS MFs strike again |
| 15:07.08 | bzdoug_ | worm? |
| 15:07.08 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 15:07.12 | fontenot | yeah worm looks like attacking ms sql server |
| 15:08.35 | fontenot | I wonder if the anti-virus software vendors pay the press to call every fucking thing a virus |
| 15:08.53 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:09.06 | bzdoug_ | I want a anti-worm program |
| 15:10.12 | fontenot | heh that's my point - they don't make those so they just call every thing a virus |
| 15:10.27 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:10.44 | fontenot | even in the article someone with a clue is quoted as calling it a worm - but nowhere else it is called a work - it's called virus-like - WTF does that mean? |
| 15:11.11 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 15:11.55 | fontenot | i noticed this problem right around 10pm |
| 15:12.05 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 15:12.10 | bzdoug_ | I was busy all night |
| 15:12.16 | bzdoug_ | never connected to it |
| 15:12.20 | fontenot | because name servers were behaving strangely and I could not get through the sprint backbone |
| 15:12.24 | bzdoug_ | to it = to any servers... |
| 15:12.28 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 15:12.40 | fontenot | I thought it was just sprint's ongoing problems |
| 15:12.46 | fontenot | just a sec - page |
| 15:12.51 | *** part/#bzflag jzaun (~jzaun@jzaun.static.telerama.com) |
| 15:13.24 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 15:14.59 | fontenot | ok it was nothing serious false alarm |
| 15:15.05 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:15.23 | fontenot | happans sometimes with our automated monitors |
| 15:15.49 | bzdoug_ | heh |
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| 15:20.15 | fontenot | boy am I glad we dont use MS at work |
| 15:20.22 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:20.27 | fontenot | well only on desktops (not mine tho) |
| 15:20.42 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 15:21.31 | fontenot | I wonder how MS will spin this, tho it's true that if this is the july 2002 vulnerability, the patch has been out a while |
| 15:21.58 | bzdoug_ | hah, then nobody installed it? |
| 15:22.27 | fontenot | oops june 2002 not july |
| 15:22.36 | fontenot | well enough ppl didn't install it apparently |
| 15:22.37 | fontenot | :-\ |
| 15:22.43 | bzdoug_ | haha |
| 15:23.55 | jraitala | yeah, incapable administrators are the biggest security risk |
| 15:24.07 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 15:25.58 | fontenot | that's so true |
| 15:26.15 | fontenot | an incompetent admin can screw up just about anything :-) |
| 15:26.43 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:26.54 | bzdoug_ | since the admin DOES have admin contrl |
| 15:27.24 | greg1 | fontenot : once an admin told me |
| 15:27.40 | greg1 | fontenot : he has a Unix that was secured |
| 15:28.02 | greg1 | fontenot : then I saw him administrate this machine via telnet... |
| 15:28.15 | bzdoug_ | LOL |
| 15:28.18 | jraitala | haha |
| 15:28.42 | fontenot | heh |
| 15:29.05 | greg1 | they buy soft in a box |
| 15:29.15 | fontenot | was he going over a wifi link too? |
| 15:29.29 | greg1 | if it is written that it is secure, of course it is :) |
| 15:29.30 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:30.23 | fontenot | wow the cnn story is concise and actually calls it a worm |
| 15:30.30 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:30.36 | fontenot | cnn 1 AP 0 |
| 15:30.51 | sussudio | doug has worms |
| 15:32.28 | fontenot | heh on CNN today where is also an article "Gates pledges better software security" |
| 15:32.40 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:33.45 | sussudio | ~lolstats |
| 15:33.49 | | total count of lol on #bzflag: 0 |
| 15:33.53 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:35.18 | fontenot | well back to tivo :-) |
| 15:36.45 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:43.53 | bzdoug_ | cvs checkout: failed to open d:\/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory |
| 15:43.56 | bzdoug_ | huh |
| 15:49.08 | sussudio | ~pigstats |
| 15:57.30 | Vernon | ~pigstats |
| 15:57.40 | Vernon | ~bzflist |
| 15:58.32 | Vernon | xmission is going well |
| 15:59.05 | Vernon | people were complaining about lag a few days ago there though |
| 16:00.16 | Vernon | grep "DPT=1434" /var/log/messages | wc -l |
| 16:00.16 | Vernon | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.10 | Vernon | host 206.218.180.11 |
| 16:03.10 | Vernon | 11.180.218.206.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www.doe.state.la.us. |
| 16:03.30 | Vernon | Yea ... our power grid is secure </sarcasm> |
| 16:04.08 | Vernon | host 156.99.5.29 |
| 16:04.22 | Vernon | 29.5.99.156.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer criminal.justice.state.mn.us. |
| 16:05.02 | Vernon | MS (SQL) sux |
| 16:10.05 | bzdoug_ | lol |
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| 18:06.29 | bzdoug_ | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 18:06.39 | Patlabor221 | hello, lying sack of poop |
| 18:07.15 | Patlabor221 | why are people seeing you playing zero on regular servers? |
| 18:07.23 | Patlabor221 | why do they know I made it? |
| 18:07.34 | Patlabor221 | why are they coming and asking for my "cheat"? |
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| 18:07.58 | bzdoug_ | ? |
| 18:08.12 | Patlabor221 | yesterday 3 people came asking me for my "cheat" |
| 18:08.12 | bzdoug_ | I never play it one regualr servers |
| 18:08.21 | Patlabor221 | said you were playing and told them to come to me and get it |
| 18:08.27 | bzdoug_ | I dont even have the old version |
| 18:08.39 | Patlabor221 | say you were lobin mines all over. |
| 18:09.02 | bzdoug_ | oh, I was playing on that cheat server when you first put out the extream version |
| 18:09.07 | bzdoug_ | many weeks ago |
| 18:09.12 | Patlabor221 | they say this was recent |
| 18:09.26 | bzdoug_ | hmm, I havent played it recently |
| 18:09.34 | bzdoug_ | not in the past 2 or 3 weeks |
| 18:09.46 | Patlabor221 | well I can no longer beilve you so no mater. |
| 18:10.24 | bzdoug_ | a) I dont even have that version anymore |
| 18:10.39 | Patlabor221 | as I said it does not mater |
| 18:10.56 | bzdoug_ | b) I NEVER played on regualr servers, only that one cheat server |
| 18:11.20 | bzdoug_ | c) bah humbug, did you even give them the link to that game? |
| 18:11.40 | MortimeR | have you compiled BZZero in linux? I can't |
| 18:11.57 | Patlabor221 | the first version would not build on lin |
| 18:11.57 | bzdoug_ | MortimeR: there is a single line thats broken last time I checked |
| 18:12.06 | Patlabor221 | but I fixed the makes recently |
| 18:12.14 | bzdoug_ | hm |
| 18:12.14 | Patlabor221 | the current tarball builds for me |
| 18:12.19 | MortimeR | I downloaded the sources today |
| 18:12.28 | bzdoug_ | MortimeR: error? |
| 18:12.34 | Patlabor221 | what hapens when you try |
| 18:13.05 | MortimeR | bzfls.cxx:716: `struct in_addr' has no member named 'S_un' |
| 18:13.22 | Patlabor221 | wtf |
| 18:13.30 | Patlabor221 | I didn't change anything in ls |
| 18:13.38 | MortimeR | yes, you did |
| 18:13.46 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 18:13.53 | Patlabor221 | the version? |
| 18:13.53 | MortimeR | it's diferent from de bzflag source |
| 18:14.10 | MortimeR | hummm... |
| 18:14.18 | Patlabor221 | you don't have to make the LS |
| 18:14.22 | Patlabor221 | just bzflag |
| 18:14.32 | fiberchunks | make in linux makes everything |
| 18:14.46 | MortimeR | so make bzflag? |
| 18:14.53 | Patlabor221 | make all makes everything, and make with no pramas just makes all |
| 18:14.54 | fiberchunks | unless you've added targets in makefile for bzflag, bzfls, bzfs, etc |
| 18:14.58 | Patlabor221 | time one sec |
| 18:15.10 | fiberchunks | hiya, by the way |
| 18:15.17 | bzdoug_ | hey fiberchunks |
| 18:15.39 | Patlabor221 | heya |
| 18:16.36 | MortimeR | I compared file with cvs bzflag code. What version do yo used |
| 18:16.54 | Patlabor221 | it's a little older then CVS |
| 18:17.01 | Patlabor221 | but you can just pop BZflags LS in there |
| 18:17.07 | Patlabor221 | you won't use it |
| 18:17.10 | MortimeR | cvs from a 1 or 2 weeks ago |
| 18:17.20 | Patlabor221 | I shhould pull BZFLS from the build |
| 18:17.37 | Patlabor221 | seems I did try to clean it up tho, and change the version strings. |
| 18:17.52 | Patlabor221 | wonder why it builds for me. |
| 18:18.02 | fiberchunks | you using ragnarok for your list serv? |
| 18:18.08 | MortimeR | I have other strange problems |
| 18:18.13 | Patlabor221 | it hosts the text file |
| 18:18.21 | bzdoug_ | MortimeR: its called linux... :) |
| 18:18.24 | Patlabor221 | but it points to the normal LS right now |
| 18:18.27 | fiberchunks | what's the link again? I'll d/l it and see if I have the same problem |
| 18:18.31 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 18:18.39 | fiberchunks | bakadigital.com? |
| 18:18.42 | Patlabor221 | www.bakadigital.com/zero |
| 18:18.46 | fiberchunks | k |
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| 18:20.30 | MortimeR | maybe my gcc version? |
| 18:20.36 | fiberchunks | what version? |
| 18:20.46 | bzdoug_ | ooh, nice pretty web page |
| 18:20.49 | MortimeR | 2.95 I think |
| 18:20.57 | Patlabor221 | yes I updated it |
| 18:21.58 | MortimeR | I watched for the struct definition and it had no members. |
| 18:22.45 | Patlabor221 | try just pulling or renaming the makefile from the bzfls dir in the src dir, I think then it'll skip it. |
| 18:22.57 | Patlabor221 | I don't recall changing any structs |
| 18:23.02 | fiberchunks | I love all the 'deprecated' warnings ;) |
| 18:23.09 | MortimeR | I'll try |
| 18:23.09 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 18:23.30 | Patlabor221 | as soon as Tim can get that old ass irix to a new gcc we can get rid of those. |
| 18:23.38 | bzdoug_ | anyone up for a game in BZ:0? |
| 18:23.40 | fiberchunks | yah - that's odd, bzfls just shouldn't compile (be put in the ./bin directory), but the rest compile fine |
| 18:24.34 | fiberchunks | MortimeR: are you building with a switch that stops on all errors? (or is that the default for gcc < 3.x)? |
| 18:24.48 | bzdoug_ | why? |
| 18:25.01 | Patlabor221 | cus it looks KEWL |
| 18:25.01 | MortimeR | uh? |
| 18:25.21 | bzdoug_ | KEWL is from the early 90's its out of style |
| 18:25.25 | Patlabor221 | ragnarok is set up as GM-o-RAMA tho. |
| 18:25.34 | Patlabor221 | you mean when you were boorn? |
| 18:25.42 | bzdoug_ | no, that was late 80s |
| 18:26.10 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: no NSIS installer? |
| 18:26.37 | bzdoug_ | alaska was "kewl" |
| 18:26.38 | Patlabor221 | when you were learning how to no poop yourself. |
| 18:27.24 | fiberchunks | hrmph -- the BZ:0 server is in the regular list? |
| 18:27.33 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: no |
| 18:27.41 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: it shouldnt be, unless somethings broke |
| 18:27.49 | bzdoug_ | like THAT would happen |
| 18:27.49 | Patlabor221 | if I want to have a dir be accessable to all users, should I put it in etc? |
| 18:27.55 | Patlabor221 | and what permisions should I give it? |
| 18:28.11 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 18:28.31 | bzdoug_ | ? |
| 18:28.39 | fiberchunks | ooooo, nice wall textures pat |
| 18:28.48 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: serveR? |
| 18:28.51 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: NO! |
| 18:28.51 | Patlabor221 | I replaced allmost all of them |
| 18:28.52 | MortimeR | it continues, but it doesnt compiles nothing |
| 18:29.00 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: I shall crush your mity tank |
| 18:29.01 | fiberchunks | put it in /opt |
| 18:29.08 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 18:29.17 | Patlabor221 | and how do I set its permisons? |
| 18:29.33 | fiberchunks | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.38 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 18:29.41 | fiberchunks | what do you want other users to be able to do |
| 18:29.41 | MortimeR | I changed original file for bzflag file and now I have a BIG error |
| 18:29.53 | Patlabor221 | that's why I asked before moving |
| 18:30.02 | fiberchunks | good man ;) |
| 18:30.04 | Patlabor221 | mort, ditch the make file for it. |
| 18:30.24 | Patlabor221 | fiber do I have to set any perms for it? or ownership? |
| 18:30.27 | fiberchunks | do you want the users to just be able to search on it, or write to it too |
| 18:30.32 | MortimeR | ditch? what is ditch? |
| 18:30.33 | fiberchunks | what's the file for? |
| 18:30.38 | fiberchunks | get rid of |
| 18:30.40 | Patlabor221 | makenot be there |
| 18:30.45 | Patlabor221 | it's the bzflag server |
| 18:30.49 | Patlabor221 | the zero server |
| 18:30.57 | Patlabor221 | anyone should be able to start one |
| 18:31.33 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: you on the server? |
| 18:31.45 | fiberchunks | bzdoug_: yes, but I'm busy helping Patlabor221 right now |
| 18:31.55 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: lemme ponder a moment |
| 18:32.19 | Patlabor221 | I think my problem with keeping asgard running a server was because it was in my home dir. |
| 18:32.28 | fiberchunks | shouldn't be |
| 18:32.37 | Patlabor221 | well still I should't keep it there. |
| 18:32.45 | fiberchunks | unless the 'others' permissions weren't set properly -- true |
| 18:33.52 | fiberchunks | lemme see: others need executable permissions, but not writable permissions, and who runs the bzflag process? |
| 18:34.02 | MortimeR | damn. It compiles but it doesn't link |
| 18:34.04 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 18:34.36 | fiberchunks | if you chmod 755 <directory> then you should grant all users execute permissions and the owner:group shouldn't matter (but it shouldn't be you |
| 18:34.46 | fiberchunks | sry, shouldn't be root:root |
| 18:35.00 | fiberchunks | did you set up an ssh account on ragnarok for me? |
| 18:35.05 | fiberchunks | or just asgard? |
| 18:36.30 | Patlabor221 | rag is a win machine |
| 18:36.50 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 18:37.05 | bzdoug_ | I dunno where it goes |
| 18:37.19 | Patlabor221 | I have a ssh server installed but not configed on it. |
| 18:37.36 | fiberchunks | so: #mkdir /opt/bzfZ ; mv /home/patlabor221/path/to/bzflag/ /opt/bzfZ ; chmod 755 /opt/bzfZ ; chown -R patlabor221:patlabor221 /opt/bzfZ ; chown patlabor221:patlabor221 /opt/bzfZ |
| 18:37.42 | fiberchunks | something like that |
| 18:37.45 | bzdoug_ | interesting, wont let me login, must configure it |
| 18:38.30 | Patlabor221 | I think I did something like that |
| 18:38.47 | Patlabor221 | wel there are 2 servers now |
| 18:38.54 | fiberchunks | oh, this is for asgard, right? -- lemme check it out |
| 18:39.16 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's runnining now, gonna log off and see if it stays |
| 18:39.42 | bzdoug_ | put a & and it will run in the background |
| 18:39.52 | Patlabor221 | it's going |
| 18:40.07 | Patlabor221 | loging |
| 18:40.29 | fiberchunks | ooooo, bad boy -- never give w access to group and others (it's uneccessary |
| 18:40.30 | Patlabor221 | naw there it just puked |
| 18:40.40 | fiberchunks | and bad form, security wise ;) |
| 18:40.45 | Patlabor221 | well fix it them, like I know what I'm doing in there |
| 18:40.46 | fiberchunks | want me to change it? |
| 18:40.50 | Patlabor221 | please |
| 18:40.50 | fiberchunks | LOL |
| 18:40.53 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: bahm security? whats that? |
| 18:42.47 | Patlabor221 | it dies as soon as I log out. |
| 18:43.04 | bzdoug_ | how are you running it? |
| 18:43.13 | Patlabor221 | like normal |
| 18:43.18 | bzdoug_ | did you put a & after the program? |
| 18:43.28 | fiberchunks | log out of what -- the terminal you started it in? |
| 18:43.28 | Patlabor221 | well you didn't say where, so no. |
| 18:43.34 | Patlabor221 | the session |
| 18:43.39 | Patlabor221 | I'm local on it now |
| 18:43.47 | fiberchunks | oh you mean the gnome / kde session? |
| 18:43.53 | bzdoug_ | oh, then put the & after the command and then it will run in the background |
| 18:44.15 | fiberchunks | yah -- you need to 'detach the process from the current tty' |
| 18:44.25 | Patlabor221 | just gets me an error |
| 18:44.33 | bzdoug_ | humph, works for me |
| 18:44.33 | fiberchunks | what error |
| 18:44.42 | Patlabor221 | ../bin/bzfsZ -ms 5 & ? |
| 18:44.53 | Patlabor221 | nm I am just stupid |
| 18:45.13 | fiberchunks | /opt/BzFlag-Zero/bin/bzfsZ -ms 5 & |
| 18:45.28 | Patlabor221 | got it |
| 18:45.34 | Patlabor221 | forgot I wasing in the dir |
| 18:45.37 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 18:46.19 | Patlabor221 | no dosn't seem to be allowing connects |
| 18:46.22 | fiberchunks | others can run it now, and you don't have world-writeable files |
| 18:46.24 | Patlabor221 | do you guys see it? |
| 18:46.29 | bzdoug_ | let me try |
| 18:46.31 | fiberchunks | hang on, I'll check |
| 18:46.47 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 18:46.49 | bzdoug_ | I cant |
| 18:46.52 | fiberchunks | error connecting to server |
| 18:47.09 | Patlabor221 | fiber are the right ports opeN? |
| 18:47.44 | fiberchunks | not sure, what ports are you using for it, just the defaults? and do you have a firewall or anything of that nature running? |
| 18:47.51 | Patlabor221 | 5155 |
| 18:48.02 | Patlabor221 | I have what you set up for web |
| 18:48.27 | Patlabor221 | it's on the raw net too, no other fire boxes or anything |
| 18:48.34 | *** join/#bzflag Piggy (Ferret@d51132ed.cable.wanadoo.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 18:48.40 | fiberchunks | hang on - lemme try to start it |
| 18:49.49 | Patlabor221 | - ms 5 -t -j -h +r -r -public "Behold the power of the Asgard" -pulblicaddr "Asgard.bakadigital.com" -s 6 +s 63 -sw 2 -st 15 |
| 18:50.26 | Patlabor221 | opps not +s 63 |
| 18:50.28 | Patlabor221 | 32 |
| 18:50.32 | fiberchunks | you don't have a -mp parameter in there? |
| 18:50.39 | Patlabor221 | vas es los? |
| 18:50.42 | fiberchunks | also, you don't have a -ttl parameter |
| 18:50.48 | fiberchunks | -mp == maxplayers |
| 18:50.50 | Patlabor221 | I don't think you realy need TTL |
| 18:50.55 | Patlabor221 | that's just for pings |
| 18:51.07 | Patlabor221 | proallby cus I rarely set up servers |
| 18:51.26 | fiberchunks | not from what I've been told, -ttl 8 == LAN only -ttl > 64 for public servers |
| 18:51.29 | bzdoug_ | woo, my .bat file goes crazy |
| 18:51.50 | fiberchunks | do you have the command line you use in a file some where? |
| 18:51.59 | Patlabor221 | I think that's old school stuff for before there was a list serv |
| 18:52.04 | Patlabor221 | but hey put what you want int here |
| 18:52.13 | bzdoug_ | does bz:0 use the config file option too? |
| 18:52.20 | Patlabor221 | no I was just trying to get it to work |
| 18:52.28 | bzdoug_ | hmmm, k |
| 18:52.32 | Patlabor221 | I don't know when I got CVs I have to merget some of there stuff in. |
| 18:52.41 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 18:53.58 | fiberchunks | this works |
| 18:54.13 | fiberchunks | ./bzfsZ -p 5155 -ms 5 -mo 2 -r -j -public "Behold the power of asgard" -publicaddr "asgard.bakadigital.com:5155" -mp 10 |
| 18:54.30 | fiberchunks | now, I'll modify it a little bit: |
| 18:54.39 | Patlabor221 | mo? |
| 18:54.54 | Patlabor221 | allow rouges too |
| 18:55.47 | fiberchunks | ./bzfsZ -p 5155 -requireudp -ttl 255 -ms 5 -mo 2 -r -j -public "Behold the power of the Asgard" -publicaddr "asgard.bakadigital.com:5155" -mp 7,7,7,7,7 |
| 18:55.55 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmm /me ponders a chainsaw flag |
| 18:56.06 | bzdoug_ | hmmm |
| 18:56.19 | Patlabor221 | well I plan on taking out the NON UDP option soon |
| 18:57.07 | fiberchunks | fine, but for now, leave it in |
| 18:57.18 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: try joining asgard |
| 18:57.33 | fiberchunks | or doug, doesn't matter |
| 18:57.36 | bzdoug_ | ok |
| 18:58.01 | Patlabor221 | huzzah |
| 19:05.17 | fiberchunks | there you have it |
| 19:05.20 | Patlabor221 | need to work on geting mines to stay longer |
| 19:05.30 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: yea |
| 19:05.30 | fiberchunks | now -- where are your world files? |
| 19:05.38 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: you got that super duper GM version? |
| 19:05.43 | Patlabor221 | there are none there |
| 19:05.50 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 19:06.02 | Patlabor221 | feel free to put some in there |
| 19:06.15 | Patlabor221 | working on suppa missle version now |
| 19:06.18 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 19:06.38 | fiberchunks | you do it -- I'll make a directory in the /opt/BzFlagZ directory for worlds -- put 'em in theree |
| 19:06.58 | Patlabor221 | be nice if I could get all of them from jzuan |
| 19:07.26 | bzdoug_ | how about jungleCTF? |
| 19:07.35 | bzdoug_ | I just added the CTF bases |
| 19:08.51 | fiberchunks | or I could do this: make a directory for a startup script and the world files in opt that references /opt/BZFlagZ, etc |
| 19:09.55 | fiberchunks | that way, you could blow up the BZFlag-Zero directory when you recompile the server, and not worry about destroying the worldfiles and startup script |
| 19:10.41 | Patlabor221 | ohh I will build in another place |
| 19:10.55 | Patlabor221 | I actualy want to pull the source from there |
| 19:11.03 | fiberchunks | well, then I'll do that now |
| 19:11.09 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 19:11.30 | bzdoug_ | can anyone connec to my server? |
| 19:11.43 | Patlabor221 | then when I build I can build, then test on another port, then shutdown and replace. |
| 19:11.51 | *** join/#bzflag anotherScanline (~micah@aden2-13-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 19:12.14 | fiberchunks | hrm, does bzfs need any of those directories in the source path to function properly (data and such?) |
| 19:12.15 | Patlabor221 | nope, it's crap |
| 19:12.21 | Patlabor221 | just data |
| 19:12.27 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 19:13.18 | *** join/#bzflag Piggy (~Piggy@d51132ed.cable.wanadoo.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:20.15 | bzdoug_ | missle bugs? |
| 19:20.16 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 19:20.17 | Patlabor221 | missile have bugs |
| 19:20.29 | Patlabor221 | there X rot isn't right |
| 19:20.34 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 19:20.39 | Patlabor221 | they "tumble" when they track vert |
| 19:21.24 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 19:21.26 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I would need to project the vector into a rotated plane that's why |
| 19:21.29 | Patlabor221 | no it's wring |
| 19:21.33 | Patlabor221 | wrong |
| 19:21.36 | Patlabor221 | they should not tumble |
| 19:21.37 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 19:22.00 | bzdoug_ | but how hard would it be to make the missle turn when going down |
| 19:22.04 | bzdoug_ | like angle down |
| 19:22.11 | bzdoug_ | and up, and sideways |
| 19:22.14 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 19:22.18 | bzdoug_ | or does it do that? |
| 19:22.30 | Patlabor221 | they rotate sideways just fine |
| 19:22.39 | Patlabor221 | but the up/down angle is wrong |
| 19:22.41 | Patlabor221 | and I know why |
| 19:22.46 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 19:23.07 | bzdoug_ | woo, debian downloaded |
| 19:23.47 | [dmp] | Chestal: do you have a minute? |
| 19:24.11 | Chestal | yes |
| 19:24.13 | bzdoug_ | GDM or XDM? whats better? |
| 19:24.20 | Chestal | gdm |
| 19:24.34 | bzdoug_ | k |
| 19:24.35 | bzdoug_ | whats XDM? |
| 19:24.40 | bzdoug_ | GDM is gnome right? |
| 19:24.49 | Patlabor221 | they are greeters |
| 19:24.53 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 19:24.58 | Patlabor221 | gdm is gnomes greeter |
| 19:24.59 | bzdoug_ | logon things |
| 19:25.03 | Patlabor221 | kdm is kde's greeter |
| 19:25.06 | [dmp] | Chestal: the ELO rating. If I understands correct; if two very uneven teams play eachother, they will not get much in points no matter if the weaker team loses? |
| 19:25.08 | Patlabor221 | xdm is a generic x one |
| 19:25.09 | bzdoug_ | XDM? |
| 19:25.12 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 19:25.13 | bzdoug_ | then GDM it is |
| 19:25.20 | Patlabor221 | do you know what X even is? |
| 19:25.31 | fiberchunks | mkay, now there's a script, and a world |
| 19:25.36 | Chestal | dmp: yes, if the suposedly better team wins, there won't be much change in ratings |
| 19:25.38 | Patlabor221 | coolia |
| 19:25.59 | fiberchunks | so, Patlabor221, here's the essence of the thing: |
| 19:26.04 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d51132ed.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 19:26.12 | bzdoug_ | X? |
| 19:26.16 | bzdoug_ | as in Xfree? |
| 19:26.17 | bzdoug_ | X11? |
| 19:26.18 | Patlabor221 | did you just restart the thing? |
| 19:26.19 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 19:26.29 | [dmp] | Chestal: but if the weaker team wins, they gain "alot" ? |
| 19:26.53 | fiberchunks | nah, killed it |
| 19:26.57 | fiberchunks | working on the script |
| 19:27.06 | Chestal | dmp: exactly |
| 19:27.16 | Patlabor221 | gdm is gone now |
| 19:27.46 | *** join/#bzflag Widget (~me@12-240-76-157.client.attbi.com) |
| 19:27.49 | Chestal | dmp: with the paametres used in the CTF league, it will be a change of 25 for even teams, and +1 or -49 in the extreme case (after rounding) |
| 19:27.52 | fiberchunks | so here's the scoop: /opt/bzf0 is the main directory, in that dir is run_bzfsZ (the startup script), and a worlds directory, where you should put all the .bzw files |
| 19:27.55 | Chestal | hi Widget |
| 19:28.04 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 19:28.07 | Patlabor221 | hey widget |
| 19:28.08 | Widget | Hi. |
| 19:28.15 | [dmp] | ah great. I've just broken my elo implementation then :) |
| 19:28.18 | [dmp] | ok |
| 19:28.20 | Patlabor221 | how goes bonny ol england. |
| 19:28.31 | Widget | There was snow! |
| 19:28.34 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 19:28.35 | bzdoug_ | no fog? |
| 19:28.39 | Widget | In _London_. |
| 19:28.39 | fiberchunks | when you wanna change the server parameters, you'll have to #pkill bzfsZ, and then edit the run_bzfsZ script |
| 19:28.47 | Widget | Of all places. |
| 19:28.48 | bzdoug_ | Widget: impressive |
| 19:29.05 | bzdoug_ | Widget: what did you get? rain? |
| 19:29.05 | *** join/#bzflag superdave (~bstone@208.186.114.31) |
| 19:29.09 | bzdoug_ | superdave! |
| 19:29.28 | superdave | hey! |
| 19:29.41 | bzdoug_ | its a plain! its a bird! its superdave! |
| 19:29.50 | bzdoug_ | plane plain, whatever |
| 19:29.54 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: note, you will have to be logged in as either root or JeffM to add worlds to the worlds directory |
| 19:30.04 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 19:30.17 | Patlabor221 | that's all I ever log in as, "ME" |
| 19:30.33 | fiberchunks | that works then :) |
| 19:30.35 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: hah |
| 19:30.44 | superdave | so I'm having this LAN party tomorrow |
| 19:30.54 | bzdoug_ | superdave: cool |
| 19:30.59 | bzdoug_ | superdave: invite me? |
| 19:30.59 | superdave | and we'er going to play bzflag |
| 19:31.06 | bzdoug_ | superdave: hah |
| 19:31.30 | superdave | why would i do that |
| 19:31.35 | bzdoug_ | hmm, dunno |
| 19:31.43 | bzdoug_ | maybe if you lost your mind you would |
| 19:32.11 | superdave | I was wondering what cool ways I could setup bzfs |
| 19:32.21 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~angelina@24.156.129.90) |
| 19:32.48 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: getting the following odd error with bzflagZ: [mike@binarysystem bin]$ bzflagZ -directory ../data -window -geometry 1024x768 |
| 19:32.48 | fiberchunks | Failed to read tag |
| 19:32.48 | fiberchunks | Failed to find the the data in WAVE |
| 19:32.48 | fiberchunks | loading fixedbr |
| 19:33.02 | bzdoug_ | superdave: use BZ:0 |
| 19:33.14 | bzdoug_ | superdave: its better and funner and all that junk |
| 19:33.18 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 19:33.19 | | shut up doug |
| 19:33.50 | bzdoug_ | sussudio: quack |
| 19:34.19 | fiberchunks | what does 'Failed to read tag', and 'Failed to fine the the data in WAVE' mean, Patlabor221 |
| 19:35.25 | Patlabor221 | means that BZ is WAYYY to picky about how it reads wav files, and I havn't found an app that writes files that it will read yet. |
| 19:35.37 | bzdoug_ | ? |
| 19:36.00 | bzdoug_ | why? |
| 19:36.06 | bzdoug_ | I thought we had a OGG support in 1.8? |
| 19:36.16 | fiberchunks | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.18 | bzdoug_ | cant we cram that into bz:0? |
| 19:36.20 | Patlabor221 | what version is this? |
| 19:36.23 | fiberchunks | ~sud |
| 19:36.25 | | shut up doug |
| 19:36.26 | fiberchunks | 1.7 |
| 19:36.30 | fiberchunks | phoot |
| 19:36.35 | Patlabor221 | think doug |
| 19:36.37 | bzdoug_ | :P |
| 19:36.41 | Patlabor221 | it could be put back but it would be work |
| 19:36.55 | Patlabor221 | I would rather replace it with openAL or Fmod. |
| 19:36.56 | bzdoug_ | ~dict joke |
| 19:36.59 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 19:37.02 | fiberchunks | what kind of flags you want Patlabor221 |
| 19:37.19 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: chain saw |
| 19:37.30 | Patlabor221 | i usualy to 32 good, 8 bad shake time to 15 and shake win of 2 |
| 19:37.33 | fiberchunks | ~lart bzdoug_ |
| 19:37.38 | Patlabor221 | full random |
| 19:37.44 | bzdoug_ | and a BFG9000 |
| 19:37.59 | Patlabor221 | but if you have any better ideas have at it |
| 19:38.20 | fiberchunks | nah, that's fine |
| 19:39.59 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@p50803DD8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:40.01 | Patlabor221 | I just want Asgard to be a normal server |
| 19:40.02 | Cell | lo |
| 19:40.08 | Patlabor221 | Rag is the test server |
| 19:40.21 | bzdoug_ | ok, is the server up yet? |
| 19:40.21 | Patlabor221 | hence GM mania |
| 19:40.24 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 19:40.27 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-112-24.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:40.49 | bzdoug_ | 'lo Cell |
| 19:40.59 | Cell | has someone code to test a .obj file for the mesh being a 2-manifold? |
| 19:41.16 | bzdoug_ | I have a 2 manafold V8 |
| 19:41.24 | sussudio | ~fart cell |
| 19:41.31 | Cell | bzdoug_:whats that? |
| 19:41.42 | bzdoug_ | Cell: chevy |
| 19:42.05 | Cell | ~x en de chevy |
| 19:42.16 | bzdoug_ | ~dict chevy |
| 19:42.48 | fiberchunks | Cell: chevy, the car |
| 19:42.49 | Cell | dont understand |
| 19:42.53 | bzdoug_ | a truck |
| 19:42.59 | Cell | ~kill |
| 19:43.00 | | ACTION kills all the morons |
| 19:43.07 | bzdoug_ | a V8 chevy truck |
| 19:43.08 | Patlabor221 | wow anoy continualy, just like some people we know |
| 19:43.12 | *** part/#bzflag superdave (~bstone@208.186.114.31) |
| 19:43.23 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 19:43.30 | Patlabor221 | doug he's talkin about mesh continuity |
| 19:43.40 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: you want an ad message? |
| 19:43.58 | Patlabor221 | "Who do voodoo you do" |
| 19:45.23 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: "Buy now and you can get 2 GMs for free!" |
| 19:46.40 | bzdoug_ | anyone know how to setup BIND? |
| 19:46.48 | Patlabor221 | no that would be fore rag not asgard |
| 19:46.57 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 19:47.12 | sussudio | man bind BEATCH |
| 19:47.45 | Cell | my new binary file format is: uint(vertexcount)uint(facecount)Vertexlist((float^3)*vertexcount)FaceList((uint^m)*facecount), where m is the number of inices of a face into the vertex list, so faces can be arbitray polys instead of tris only |
| 19:48.07 | bzdoug_ | without messing with some stinky config file |
| 19:50.03 | Cell | the mesh can have holes bu each edge must share at most 2 and at least 1 face |
| 19:51.13 | Cell | such a mesh i can load and convert into a quad edge data stucture |
| 19:51.49 | Cell | which is the most gargarous data structur for meshes ever created |
| 19:52.45 | Cell | thanks to Gubidias and Stolfi 1985 |
| 19:52.52 | Patlabor221 | fill it with water. |
| 19:53.03 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 19:53.21 | Patlabor221 | no realy that's how you tell |
| 19:53.29 | Patlabor221 | manifolds are solid. |
| 19:53.34 | Cell | no |
| 19:53.45 | Cell | 2-mnifolds are solid |
| 19:53.56 | Patlabor221 | you said you wanted 2 mani |
| 19:54.10 | Cell | manifold are just a regular parametric surface |
| 19:55.11 | Cell | that means that the surface is orientable and has at each point a normal vector not equal to the Zerovector |
| 19:55.57 | Patlabor221 | whoot Missle = maped |
| 19:56.21 | Cell | shall i make my battle spider walk |
| 19:56.30 | Cell | i have 19 min time |
| 19:56.36 | Patlabor221 | 182 tris with the flare |
| 19:56.51 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: cool, let me see |
| 19:57.14 | fiberchunks | someone join asgard |
| 19:57.31 | Cell | or shall i make a new tank? |
| 19:57.57 | Patlabor221 | www.bakadigital.com/textured.png |
| 19:58.14 | Patlabor221 | well cell since you haven't given us any object files I say do what you want. |
| 19:58.16 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 19:58.35 | Cell | oh |
| 19:58.40 | fiberchunks | anyone join asgard |
| 19:58.42 | Cell | milkshape crack |
| 19:59.05 | Patlabor221 | it can output an obj file, can your fancy stolen software do that? |
| 19:59.06 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: ok |
| 19:59.14 | Cell | www.astalavista.box.sk sk == my homecountry should help me again |
| 19:59.29 | Cell | lol |
| 20:00.38 | *** join/#bzflag paul (~paul@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 20:00.49 | Cell | ~x sk en Slovensko |
| 20:01.18 | Cell | cool have a crack |
| 20:01.45 | Cell | another 25 bucks save |
| 20:03.36 | bzdoug_ | woo, X works on first try |
| 20:03.39 | bzdoug_ | wonderbar |
| 20:03.47 | bzdoug_ | Cell: hah |
| 20:04.22 | fiberchunks | all set up Patlabor221, just remember, that if you run the script, you will have to issue: pkill bzfsZ to truly kill the server process |
| 20:04.51 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 20:05.25 | Cell | have to make potatopaffer |
| 20:05.44 | Cell | before DSDS starts so i can feed myself while watching |
| 20:06.02 | bzgirl | that client crashing idiot is back |
| 20:06.04 | bzgirl | grr |
| 20:06.14 | Cell | it takes me 5 - 7 min to make potatopaffer |
| 20:06.16 | fiberchunks | ooooo, what server |
| 20:06.25 | bzgirl | ducati, 2 times now |
| 20:06.34 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: I had that problem with the black stuff in the regular client too |
| 20:06.45 | Patlabor221 | everyone would |
| 20:06.50 | Patlabor221 | it's part of BZ |
| 20:06.53 | Patlabor221 | I didn't add it |
| 20:06.53 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 20:06.56 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
| 20:07.00 | sussudio | get. his. ip. |
| 20:07.17 | bzgirl | fiberchunks Afro pride was the nick |
| 20:07.18 | sussudio | ~bzflist |
| 20:07.32 | sussudio | ~bzfquery one.bzflag.org |
| 20:07.40 | sussudio | ~bzfquery nikt.org |
| 20:07.48 | sussudio | hm |
| 20:08.12 | fiberchunks | durn |
| 20:08.30 | fiberchunks | yah, that's the one that I remember too |
| 20:08.44 | fiberchunks | Afro pride , or Afropride |
| 20:11.49 | fiberchunks | 67.115.104.68 |
| 20:13.13 | sussudio | * Resolved 67.115.104.68 to adsl-67-115-104-68.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net |
| 20:13.18 | bzgirl | not sure if the ip was the same this time |
| 20:13.48 | sussudio | i only have 1 other player besides dervish on that isp |
| 20:13.52 | sussudio | someone called 'fnord' |
| 20:15.38 | sussudio | and fontenot |
| 20:19.00 | *** join/#bzflag Zenmin (~chuck@12-218-244-186.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:20.13 | Zenmin | any of you have any idea why my bzflag locks up just into a game? It's been working fine till today, and I havent changed anything... |
| 20:21.15 | sussudio | what server |
| 20:21.17 | Zenmin | running bzflag 1.7e6 from RPM on Mandrake 9.0 |
| 20:21.25 | Zenmin | uhmmm.. any of em |
| 20:21.39 | Zenmin | I tried a couple different servers, same thing happens |
| 20:22.04 | sussudio | i dont know then |
| 20:22.36 | Zenmin | hmm.. maybe I'll just have to compile a new version.. see if that fixes it.. |
| 20:25.24 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.25 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@24.156.129.90) |
| 20:27.28 | *** join/#bzflag Zigg (~bear@CPE00055d22d1db-CM.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 20:27.33 | Zigg | finally |
| 20:27.39 | Zigg | "Zig nickname already in use" wtf |
| 20:27.52 | Zigg | hello? |
| 20:28.22 | bzdoug_ | hi |
| 20:28.23 | bzdoug_ | ih |
| 20:28.30 | bzgirl | hello zig |
| 20:28.52 | Zigg | hi |
| 20:29.02 | Zigg | What is the command to change the password for admins on ducati?! |
| 20:29.03 | Zigg | ;) |
| 20:29.13 | Zigg | Ill guess it soon enough |
| 20:29.54 | bzgirl | you cant change it |
| 20:30.02 | bzgirl | until the server restarts |
| 20:30.20 | Zigg | Oh darn |
| 20:30.24 | Zigg | How often does it restart? |
| 20:30.45 | bzgirl | whenever Ches feels like restarting it I suppose |
| 20:30.48 | Zigg | nice |
| 20:30.52 | Zigg | Im admin for a day then |
| 20:30.53 | Zigg | haha |
| 20:30.55 | bzgirl | :) |
| 20:30.59 | Zigg | "You are now an administrator" |
| 20:31.39 | Zigg | . |
| 20:31.47 | Zigg | 20 something people and they are all idle/ |
| 20:31.48 | Zigg | ? |
| 20:33.03 | bzdoug_ | ? |
| 20:33.03 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 20:33.10 | Zigg | hi bzdoug_ |
| 20:33.23 | Zigg | I want you to keep on talking, You're the negotiatior. |
| 20:33.34 | Zigg | I ban someone from ducati every 5 minutes unless my demands are met. |
| 20:34.24 | Zigg | I've barricaded myself in the server, and i'm not getting out! |
| 20:35.49 | Zigg | Does anyone have a list of the commands that admins can do on ducati? |
| 20:36.20 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.30 | Zigg | no |
| 20:36.31 | Zigg | I did that |
| 20:36.35 | bzgirl | did you? |
| 20:36.44 | Zigg | I did before |
| 20:36.50 | Zigg | Does anyone know the commands? |
| 20:37.44 | bzdoug_ | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZServerCommands.html |
| 20:37.54 | Zigg | oh sweet |
| 20:38.21 | Zigg | Oh this is going to be fun |
| 20:38.27 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 20:38.54 | sussudio | you know you're never going to get on ducati again after this, right? |
| 20:39.05 | Zigg | Yes |
| 20:39.09 | bzdoug_ | ? |
| 20:39.23 | Zigg | bzdoug: I got the password and am an unwarranted admin |
| 20:39.25 | bzdoug_ | you guessed the pass? |
| 20:39.27 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 20:39.34 | sussudio | that goes for you too doug |
| 20:39.55 | Zigg | oh dar |
| 20:40.00 | Zigg | Darn, they've overpowered me |
| 20:40.07 | bzdoug_ | how do I setup my mouse again in debian? |
| 20:40.19 | [dmp] | Who is zip? |
| 20:40.23 | Zigg | Its zig |
| 20:40.33 | Zigg | The unwarranted admin. |
| 20:40.35 | Chestal | ok, Zig, you abused the password, bye-bye |
| 20:40.36 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-1-87.stny.rr.com) |
| 20:40.39 | Zigg | WHAT |
| 20:40.40 | Zigg | NO |
| 20:40.45 | Zigg | oh well |
| 20:40.49 | Zigg | it was fun while it lasted |
| 20:40.50 | bzdoug_ | HAHA |
| 20:41.01 | bzgirl | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or somethig like that doug |
| 20:41.08 | Zigg | But i was trying to tell you i stole it... |
| 20:41.16 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 20:41.16 | bzdoug_ | ok |
| 20:41.18 | Chestal | I saw you kicking dmp |
| 20:41.25 | Zigg | Yes cause he trash talked |
| 20:41.31 | Chestal | conrats for beign the first to make it into the perm ban list |
| 20:41.36 | Zigg | ooh |
| 20:41.40 | Zigg | You are bad attitude |
| 20:41.41 | bzdoug_ | COOOL! |
| 20:41.46 | Zigg | lol |
| 20:41.49 | sussudio | chestal is the admin you dumbass |
| 20:41.54 | Zigg | well duh |
| 20:41.56 | fiberchunks | ooooo, bankick im here too Chestal :) |
| 20:42.07 | Zigg | gah |
| 20:42.09 | Zigg | power to the people |
| 20:42.15 | Zigg | rise against his dictatorship |
| 20:42.35 | calico | your a dumbass |
| 20:42.43 | Zigg | why |
| 20:43.17 | Zigg | Oh well........ |
| 20:43.31 | sussudio | btw you're banned on bzcop servers too...... |
| 20:43.40 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 20:43.41 | Zigg | well duh |
| 20:43.47 | Zigg | I only ever played on ducati |
| 20:43.58 | sussudio | indeed, 'played', as in past tense. |
| 20:44.02 | Zigg | yes |
| 20:44.09 | Zigg | Misuse of power? |
| 20:44.24 | bzdoug_ | yup |
| 20:44.30 | Zigg | ;0 |
| 20:44.34 | paul | sounds like 'protection against idiocy' to me |
| 20:44.43 | paul | or 'crime and punishment' |
| 20:44.43 | Chestal | I don't tolerate peopel playing wwith kick and ban commands |
| 20:44.52 | Zigg | I never banned though |
| 20:44.56 | Chestal | it's worse than cheating |
| 20:44.59 | Zigg | I tried to tell you i had the password |
| 20:45.08 | Zigg | thus the "banf are you admin" and "tankmann are you admin" |
| 20:45.29 | Chestal | I knew you had the password |
| 20:45.30 | bzdoug_ | where DID you get pass? |
| 20:45.38 | bzdoug_ | it should be protected |
| 20:45.41 | Zigg | From some bad admin |
| 20:45.45 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 20:45.46 | Zigg | he did p/assword |
| 20:45.52 | Zigg | and i picked it up |
| 20:45.54 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 20:46.48 | Chestal | I can tolerate cheaters to some extent, I only kick them or ban temp, but not peopel who kick for fun |
| 20:46.58 | Zigg | once |
| 20:47.14 | Chestal | you kicked another player before, but I don't know if that had a reason |
| 20:47.22 | Zigg | yes, it was asdf |
| 20:47.26 | Zigg | he was bad attitude |
| 20:47.35 | Chestal | your attitude is worse |
| 20:47.47 | Zigg | pf |
| 20:47.47 | Zigg | true |
| 20:47.59 | Chestal | I never understood why you had to be so confrontign in your behaviour anyway |
| 20:48.11 | Zigg | ? |
| 20:48.17 | Chestal | you're one of the best players out there, but most of the time it's just not fun to play you because you're beign an ass on purpose |
| 20:48.18 | Zigg | because thats how i am |
| 20:48.31 | Zigg | C: you ever played any other online games? |
| 20:48.58 | bzdoug_ | ~bzfquery jzaun.com:5156 |
| 20:48.58 | Chestal | that depends on how you defien online games, and I don't see how that is relevant |
| 20:49.07 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 20:49.25 | Zigg | The point is i have a _nice_ attitude compared to the average, say, diablo player. |
| 20:49.33 | Chestal | that might well be |
| 20:49.34 | Zigg | But in relation to bzflag, it is bad attitude. |
| 20:49.36 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 20:49.39 | Zigg | You can't change attitudes overnight. |
| 20:49.42 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 20:49.46 | | shut up doug |
| 20:49.46 | sussudio | ~+sud |
| 20:49.46 | | shut up doug |
| 20:49.46 | paul | Zigg: and so? this isnt diablo. |
| 20:49.51 | paul | Zigg: tough. |
| 20:49.56 | Zigg | ? |
| 20:50.03 | Zigg | This is my explanation of my attitude. |
| 20:50.12 | Chestal | other online games suck anyway |
| 20:50.19 | Zigg | There is no "tough". I'm not trying to get something here. |
| 20:51.45 | paul | why on earth would you need to explain your attitude? |
| 20:51.55 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@p50803DD8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:52.09 | paul | i've played you once too, and you're extremely good, but an absolute dick, as chestal says. |
| 20:52.15 | Cell | yep 2 manifolds with holes work now correct |
| 20:52.53 | Zigg | i have to explain my attitude because chestal asked for it. |
| 20:52.55 | paul | Zigg: let your playing do the talking. you dont need to say anything. |
| 20:53.03 | Zigg | ? |
| 20:53.09 | Zigg | Give me an example of my attitude please./ |
| 20:53.16 | paul | you taunt. |
| 20:53.24 | Zigg | like? |
| 20:53.45 | paul | its been a good while since i last played you, but you taunt your opponents. |
| 20:54.01 | Zigg | Its called taking the psychological advantage. |
| 20:54.05 | Zigg | I play to win. Winning is fun. |
| 20:54.15 | paul | no, thats called being a dick. |
| 20:54.19 | Zigg | trash talk is half the battle. |
| 20:54.35 | paul | let the score be your psychological advantage. |
| 20:54.41 | Zigg | Its non-serious talk to throw your opponent of key. |
| 20:54.56 | paul | ah well. |
| 20:54.58 | Zigg | No, the psychological advantage increases my score, because you dont play as well |
| 20:55.27 | Zigg | See? |
| 20:55.40 | fiberchunks | well, you're taken care of on turkey, and hashmark as well now |
| 20:55.51 | Zigg | ? |
| 20:56.03 | Zigg | What? |
| 20:59.02 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 20:59.30 | sussudio | it pretty much means you can play with yourself from now on zigg |
| 20:59.56 | Zigg | Well I know that. |
| 21:00.18 | bzdoug_ | there is other CTF ducati style servers |
| 21:00.43 | fiberchunks | douchebag |
| 21:00.44 | sussudio | zigg is getting out the pics of naked farm animals as we speak |
| 21:01.03 | *** join/#bzflag Zigg (~bear@CPE00055d22d1db-CM.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:01.06 | Zigg | One more thing |
| 21:01.11 | bzdoug_ | yah? |
| 21:01.15 | sussudio | squeel? |
| 21:01.23 | bzdoug_ | ~sussudiooo |
| 21:01.23 | | the cow that went oink |
| 21:01.38 | Zigg | Sorry for what I did. I know it doesn't matter to the punishment, but I said it anyway. |
| 21:01.41 | Zigg | Bye. |
| 21:01.45 | bzdoug_ | Zigg: hah |
| 21:01.55 | sussudio | boohoo. |
| 21:02.25 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 21:02.31 | bzdoug_ | I cant get my gamma reset |
| 21:02.43 | bzdoug_ | bzflag should not break my gamma settings |
| 21:03.09 | fiberchunks | oh well |
| 21:03.14 | bzdoug_ | oil well |
| 21:22.57 | *** join/#bzflag Pig (Ferret@d5113297.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:23.06 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio1 (Suss@d5113297.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:23.45 | sussudio | isp pigs |
| 21:24.13 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 21:56.20 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@p50803DD8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:56.26 | Cell | jopa |
| 22:09.44 | calico | ~ducatictf |
| 22:13.09 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 22:20.25 | bzdoug_ | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 22:23.03 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 22:36.15 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 22:37.24 | paul | heya pat |
| 22:38.58 | Patlabor221 | heya |
| 22:41.27 | Patlabor221 | speaking of Heya's |
| 22:41.37 | Patlabor221 | www.bakadigital.com/textured.png |
| 22:42.20 | captain_proton | thats textured? |
| 22:42.42 | scanline | boring texture |
| 22:43.14 | Patlabor221 | not done yet |
| 22:45.08 | paul | Patlabor221: neat.. i take it the curved surface at the bottom is meant to be exhaust? |
| 22:46.06 | scanline | Wouldn't it fly better if it was round? |
| 22:47.03 | Patlabor221 | bz dosn't do surfs |
| 22:47.12 | captain_proton | scanline: ;) |
| 22:47.13 | Patlabor221 | unless you want to hook that up for them |
| 22:47.29 | Patlabor221 | hell I'm having hard enough time geting them to let me add 183 |
| 22:48.05 | captain_proton | 183? |
| 22:48.51 | scanline | I tried your birthday, I tried your mom's first name. I have the password to your... shell account! |
| 22:49.07 | captain_proton | =) |
| 22:49.17 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@rikers.org) |
| 22:49.21 | Patlabor221 | 183 tris |
| 22:50.31 | Chestal | uh, CVS is broken |
| 22:51.11 | captain_proton | yep |
| 22:51.16 | captain_proton | ohhhh you probably mean bzflag cvs |
| 22:51.30 | Patlabor221 | lol |
| 22:51.52 | Chestal | MAAAAACCC |
| 22:52.10 | sussudio | blah that english prat isnt funny.... they call that standup comedy? |
| 22:52.30 | sussudio | "there's no word in german for 'happy' but 13 for 'poison gas'" |
| 22:52.33 | sussudio | how about 'froh'? |
| 22:52.39 | Patlabor221 | ha |
| 22:52.44 | sussudio | ~x en de happy |
| 22:52.46 | TimRiker | cvs is very broken. gcc 2.95 does not like the std:vector<std::string> globbing that the new l10n error stuff tries to use. |
| 22:52.51 | sussudio | see |
| 22:52.54 | TimRiker | needs to be recoded or reverted. |
| 22:52.58 | sussudio | glucklich |
| 22:53.01 | sussudio | there's one |
| 22:53.13 | Chestal | globbing? |
| 22:53.14 | captain_proton | TimRiker: paste me the error? |
| 22:53.29 | Patlabor221 | #ifndef _SUCKY_COMPILER :) |
| 22:53.33 | Chestal | the code tries to pass a char* where a vector<string>* is expected |
| 22:53.40 | Chestal | that make sno sense to me |
| 22:54.10 | TimRiker | network.cxx: In function `void nerror(const char *)': |
| 22:54.10 | TimRiker | network.cxx:36: passing `const char *' as argument 2 of `printError(const string &, const vector<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,allocator<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > > > *)' |
| 22:54.10 | TimRiker | network.cxx:38: passing `char *' as argument 2 of `printError(const string &, const vector<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,allocator<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > > > *)' |
| 22:54.10 | TimRiker | n |
| 22:54.12 | TimRiker | etc |
| 22:54.28 | *** part/#bzflag greg1 (~admin@greghub.net1.nerim.net) |
| 22:55.10 | Chestal | yes, just as I said |
| 22:55.14 | TimRiker | it's supposed to put each char* into a std:vector instead of the C ... varargs support. |
| 22:55.25 | Chestal | maybe MAC got interrupted while convertign code to use the new printerror function |
| 22:56.04 | TimRiker | I would expect it works on some compiler. seems a logical thing to do, just not yet one that many compilers support. |
| 22:56.12 | Chestal | hmm |
| 22:56.40 | Chestal | I don't see how it can work, I only ee a function printError(string,vector<string>*) |
| 22:56.52 | TimRiker | ~seen MrApathyCream |
| 22:56.52 | | mrapathycream <dbrosius@mxfcl5x18.chesco.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 12h 56m 28s ago, saying: 'bedtime'. |
| 22:57.22 | TimRiker | right, char* could be "promoted" to an entry in the vector. |
| 22:58.08 | Chestal | but not automatically |
| 22:58.14 | TimRiker | as could each char* in the call ie: printError("format","thing0","thing1",...) |
| 22:58.17 | Chestal | multicast.cxx for example seems to have been changed |
| 22:58.22 | Chestal | I guess he just hasn't finished yet |
| 22:58.30 | TimRiker | apparently it's automatic on MAC's compiler. |
| 22:58.33 | bzdoug_ | why isnt Label on regular mode too? |
| 22:58.37 | Chestal | a lot of copying is done now to pritn the error message |
| 22:58.45 | Chestal | TImRiker: no way |
| 22:58.46 | bzdoug_ | not just observer |
| 22:59.14 | TimRiker | agreed. I'd rather see varargs instead of vector for that function. no copying that way. |
| 22:59.42 | TimRiker | bzdoug_: cause labels occur on tanks behind buildings at present. |
| 22:59.57 | Chestal | caller musconvert each arg to a strign or char* now |
| 23:00.08 | bzdoug_ | TimRiker: oh |
| 23:00.28 | TimRiker | well I have to run. somebody smack MAC for me and get CVS fixed. |
| 23:00.38 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 23:00.46 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 23:01.29 | sussudio | hmmm that ms-sql thing disabled the windows xp activation servers |
| 23:01.37 | sussudio | you'd think microsoft would patch its own servers |
| 23:01.37 | scanline | haha |
| 23:01.41 | bzdoug_ | LOL |
| 23:04.00 | Patlabor221 | www.bakadigital.com/heya.png |
| 23:04.20 | bzdoug_ | link dont work |
| 23:04.25 | scanline | 4 0 4 |
| 23:04.43 | bzdoug_ | baka |
| 23:05.22 | Patlabor221 | helps if I put the file in the rigt place |
| 23:05.26 | Patlabor221 | try again |
| 23:05.28 | bzdoug_ | indeed |
| 23:05.33 | scanline | haha |
| 23:05.36 | scanline | it's cute |
| 23:05.37 | bzdoug_ | hahaha |
| 23:06.00 | bzdoug_ | did you fix the GM bug? |
| 23:06.16 | Patlabor221 | ohhyeah took out the tumble |
| 23:06.29 | bzdoug_ | co ol |
| 23:06.54 | scanline | Those aqua-ish tabs are pretty icky |
| 23:07.06 | scanline | needs to make a clean joint between the tab and the bar below the tabs |
| 23:07.14 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 23:07.17 | scanline | and the "Material01" is overlapping the bar |
| 23:07.18 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's a windows theme |
| 23:07.28 | scanline | well FIX IT, damnit! |
| 23:07.32 | scanline | :) |
| 23:07.49 | Patlabor221 | naw they work for me |
| 23:07.49 | scanline | and there title bar's too tall! |
| 23:07.59 | scanline | and the blue group box borders are ugly! |
| 23:08.08 | bzdoug_ | YOU my friend are the one with the Aqua buttons, you fix it |
| 23:08.09 | scanline | and the grey border around the sliders suck! |
| 23:08.34 | scanline | and the escapement on the title bar font is messed up! |
| 23:09.02 | sussudio | wtf are ATM machines doing connected to the internet?!?! |
| 23:09.15 | bzdoug_ | haha |
| 23:09.27 | scanline | sussudio: because they're faster than ethernet? |
| 23:09.44 | sussudio | dont you have X25 in the US? |
| 23:09.48 | bzdoug_ | hmm, ethernet is faster than internet |
| 23:10.03 | scanline | ATM is faster than ethernet |
| 23:10.10 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 23:10.15 | sussudio | scanline: cut down on the mushrooms |
| 23:10.18 | bzdoug_ | ATM cash machines? |
| 23:10.26 | sussudio | Automatic Teller Machines |
| 23:10.34 | bzdoug_ | ~lart scanline |
| 23:10.35 | scanline | Asynchronous Transfer mode |
| 23:11.13 | bzdoug_ | x25? |
| 23:11.13 | sussudio | "Bank of America ATMs Disrupted by Virus" |
| 23:11.16 | sussudio | WORM WORM WORM WORM WORM |
| 23:11.20 | bzdoug_ | why would we use this? |
| 23:11.32 | bzdoug_ | sussudio: where is this? |
| 23:12.08 | sussudio | because it's an efficient way for financial transactions like ATM's and supermarkets.... |
| 23:12.21 | sussudio | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43267-2003Jan25.html |
| 23:12.24 | sussudio | idiots |
| 23:12.29 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 23:13.00 | sussudio | you can get an X25 subscription with your ISDN line.. you pay for the traffic |
| 23:13.12 | sussudio | it's "always-on" |
| 23:13.20 | sussudio | and it doesnt use the frikkin internet |
| 23:13.25 | bzdoug_ | WE have internet over here |
| 23:13.30 | bzdoug_ | highly reliabl |
| 23:13.32 | bzdoug_ | faster |
| 23:13.39 | bzdoug_ | easyer, and more fun! |
| 23:14.19 | sussudio | sure why dont you hook up cheney's pacemaker to the internet too |
| 23:14.33 | bzdoug_ | hmm, remote diagnostics |
| 23:14.33 | sussudio | ping -f 65535 dick.cheyney.in-addr.arpa |
| 23:14.35 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 23:14.58 | sussudio | peeeeeep |
| 23:15.12 | sussudio | "they've DDoS'ed the vice president!" |
| 23:18.54 | Patlabor221 | now to see what this thing looks like with alpha channel |
| 23:21.53 | bzdoug_ | I got a virus |
| 23:27.48 | sussudio | if you're portscanning me right now i'm kicking your ass doug |
| 23:28.17 | bzdoug_ | ? |
| 23:28.18 | bzdoug_ | I aint |
| 23:29.45 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d5113297.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 23:29.57 | sussudio | stupidass crap |
| 23:35.14 | sussudio | hmzzz 20 seconds after i insert a rule to log port 1434 udp connection attempts there's already one there |
| 23:36.16 | sussudio | sql pigs |
| 23:37.58 | Chestal | that was fast, I had to wait 30 minutes before my netcat caught the first one |
| 23:39.24 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 23:39.30 | sussudio | so far for hashmark |
| 23:44.09 | Chestal | bzdoug: still none? |
| 23:46.04 | sussudio | there goes another one |
| 23:47.40 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 23:47.42 | bzdoug_ | I got one |
| 23:47.51 | bzdoug_ | from sussudio! |
| 23:47.56 | sussudio | you're supposed to listen on UDP not TCP you pig |
| 23:48.03 | bzdoug_ | oh? |
| 23:48.05 | Chestal | I sent you one, got it lost? |
| 23:48.10 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 23:48.12 | bzdoug_ | I did TCP |
| 23:48.13 | Chestal | bah |
| 23:48.14 | sussudio | i did telnet 216.135.68.133 1434 |
| 23:48.30 | Chestal | I sent the worm as udp |
| 23:48.32 | bzdoug_ | ok |
| 23:48.40 | bzdoug_ | try now |
| 23:48.41 | sussudio | haha |
| 23:48.52 | Chestal | sent |
| 23:49.06 | bzdoug_ | nothign |
| 23:49.15 | Chestal | 216.135.68.133? |
| 23:49.25 | bzdoug_ | yup |
| 23:49.30 | sussudio | U D P |
| 23:49.39 | bzdoug_ | I did U D P |
| 23:50.05 | sussudio | apparently not |
| 23:50.18 | sussudio | huh? |
| 23:50.35 | sussudio | * Resolved 15.38.99.155 to ul99155.gr.hp.com |
| 23:50.43 | sussudio | i've never seen anything coming from that range before |
| 23:50.43 | bzdoug_ | hahaha |
| 23:51.01 | sussudio | thats hewlett packard's private range or something? |
| 23:51.04 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 23:51.11 | bzdoug_ | I dont get UDP through my router |
| 23:51.15 | bzdoug_ | I dont think |
| 23:51.22 | sussudio | ofcourse you do |
| 23:51.23 | bzdoug_ | in greece |
| 23:51.27 | Patlabor221 | are you the DMZ? |
| 23:51.27 | bzdoug_ | I dont |
| 23:51.30 | bzdoug_ | yes |
| 23:51.32 | sussudio | otherwise you wouldnt be able to play bzflag |
| 23:51.37 | bzdoug_ | but my router is kaput |
| 23:51.42 | bzdoug_ | outgoing |
| 23:51.44 | Patlabor221 | linkass? |
| 23:51.55 | bzdoug_ | but incoming has problems |
| 23:51.57 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 23:51.58 | Chestal | well, if it doe NAT, of course a UDP packet to 1434 won't reach his computer |
| 23:51.59 | bzdoug_ | asante |
| 23:51.59 | sussudio | bzgirl has a crapsys router |
| 23:52.07 | Patlabor221 | ahhh allso as ass in it |
| 23:52.43 | Patlabor221 | if he's DMZ and the router sends all unkown packets to that IP he may |
| 23:53.49 | Chestal | actually, this worm is ratehr boring |
| 23:58.48 | sussudio | man that's odd....between about 09:00 and 12:00 the traffic on the net topped out but the packet loss dropped to virtually zero |
| 23:59.00 | sussudio | how does that compute? |
| 23:59.14 | bzdoug_ | error, does not computer |
| 23:59.25 | Vernon | Wonder if i should tell tim about an issue with his HIX 2.0 map ... he he |
| 23:59.44 | bzdoug_ | what issue? |