| 00:10.32 | *** join/#bzflag Ruudi (Sacha@80-235-68-147-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 00:11.41 | fiberchunks | that works |
| 00:13.01 | fiberchunks | so what do you want, just a category with announcements? or a category with announcements and comment / suggestions topics? |
| 00:13.15 | Patalbor221 | that would be coo |
| 00:13.20 | fiberchunks | which one |
| 00:13.40 | Patalbor221 | just an open comment one would be fine |
| 00:13.47 | Patalbor221 | I can put anouncements as sticky |
| 00:13.56 | Patalbor221 | and make a sugestion sticky |
| 00:13.56 | fiberchunks | so just one topic, then? |
| 00:14.07 | Patalbor221 | yeah I don't want to cluter it up |
| 00:14.11 | fiberchunks | k - give me 2 minutes |
| 00:14.16 | Patalbor221 | you da man |
| 00:15.14 | Patalbor221 | ohh, you should thank your logo picture for a feature I'm working on |
| 00:15.15 | Patalbor221 | :) |
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| 00:21.02 | fiberchunks | hrm? |
| 00:21.10 | fiberchunks | done, by the way |
| 00:21.15 | Patalbor221 | I see thank you |
| 00:21.20 | fiberchunks | np |
| 00:21.25 | fiberchunks | what's the logo thing? |
| 00:21.34 | Patalbor221 | real missles for GM |
| 00:21.42 | fiberchunks | ah... |
| 00:21.46 | Patalbor221 | no more "phototorps" |
| 00:22.04 | fiberchunks | 3d and shite |
| 00:22.08 | Patalbor221 | ohh you want a fancy logo? |
| 00:22.13 | Patalbor221 | all 3d and shit? |
| 00:22.21 | Patalbor221 | I can do all 3d and shit |
| 00:22.50 | fiberchunks | hey, you want to, I won't complain -- just make sure it's the same size (or a little bigger) than the one there (I can't stand the fact that that one has hard edges) |
| 00:23.31 | Patalbor221 | well the bg is textured si it will be hard to do anyting that dosn't have a hard edge |
| 00:23.39 | Patalbor221 | unelss you put a bar across the thing |
| 00:23.40 | fiberchunks | I'm 0 good with graphics (namely, gimp), and I have not a decent eye for things like that |
| 00:23.41 | Patalbor221 | or something |
| 00:24.03 | Patalbor221 | I can do something like the bzflag.org thing for you I did that one |
| 00:24.12 | Patalbor221 | let me see if I can find my variatons page |
| 00:24.13 | fiberchunks | I have no idea -- if you have time, and feel like fiddling with something - go right ahead |
| 00:24.30 | Patalbor221 | well it has to work with how you want the site to look |
| 00:24.38 | Patalbor221 | most of your interface items are "soft" |
| 00:24.43 | Patalbor221 | so the logo should go with that |
| 00:24.50 | fiberchunks | hrm? you mean fuzzified by soft? |
| 00:25.09 | fiberchunks | ah, I think I see what you mean |
| 00:25.10 | Patalbor221 | well like the gray bar that the sections are on |
| 00:25.19 | Patalbor221 | they don't realy have any "hard" shading |
| 00:25.24 | Patalbor221 | more of a soft shadow |
| 00:25.27 | fiberchunks | ic |
| 00:25.43 | Patalbor221 | I could frame the log in something like that bar |
| 00:26.00 | Patalbor221 | or make something that would grow/shrink with the page |
| 00:26.03 | Patalbor221 | what ever you wanted |
| 00:26.21 | fiberchunks | grow/shrink would be absolutely frickin fantastic! |
| 00:26.50 | fiberchunks | cause some folks view like a written page, and other (like myself) view fullscreen. |
| 00:27.09 | fiberchunks | do what you like, take your time, and lemme know when you get something |
| 00:27.20 | fiberchunks | no rush whatsoever |
| 00:28.17 | Patalbor221 | bzflag.org is set up to grow/shrink |
| 00:28.34 | Patalbor221 | I shall ponder |
| 00:28.48 | fiberchunks | I wish I could make that avatar my desktop background :\ |
| 00:29.02 | Patalbor221 | ahh here we go |
| 00:29.03 | Patalbor221 | S:\html\BZ\Logo\index.html |
| 00:29.04 | Patalbor221 | LOL |
| 00:29.13 | Patalbor221 | in windows you can, with active desktop |
| 00:29.19 | Patalbor221 | gahhhhh |
| 00:29.32 | fiberchunks | how does that work, by the way -- the growing and shrinking logo business? |
| 00:29.33 | Patalbor221 | www.artemisgames.com/bz/logo/ |
| 00:29.41 | Patalbor221 | it's all about the frames |
| 00:30.06 | Patalbor221 | and intelegent slicing/setings of frame BG images |
| 00:30.26 | Patalbor221 | those are all the ones I did for Tim and Cap. |
| 00:30.30 | fiberchunks | frames? you don't mean <iframe> in that context do you? |
| 00:30.38 | Patalbor221 | sorry tables |
| 00:30.57 | Patalbor221 | I'm doing web work with frames today, so I got frames on the brain |
| 00:31.01 | Patalbor221 | it's all tables |
| 00:31.34 | fiberchunks | ah, well that logo is just in one <td> so it wouldn't be that hard to muck with it |
| 00:31.57 | Patalbor221 | well it' also inside another table it seems that does the outer frame |
| 00:33.27 | fiberchunks | yeah -- there's a 'main' table that does the outer borders (the little grey bars), and then everything else is contained within that table |
| 00:33.57 | fiberchunks | course, all this is done with .tpl files and php -- so to put a new logo in, I'd edit overall_header.tpl |
| 00:34.04 | Patalbor221 | yeah |
| 00:34.28 | Patalbor221 | we'll I allways start by making mockups |
| 00:34.32 | Patalbor221 | so I'll make some and show you |
| 00:35.00 | fiberchunks | good deal .. like I said - no rush |
| 00:35.19 | Patalbor221 | now are there any other parts of the "centrum" other then the forums? |
| 00:36.10 | fiberchunks | not yet -- I've been pondering adding a portal to it, and some other pages (links, crap like that), but they all will use the 'overall_header.tpl' file for their html |
| 00:36.20 | Patalbor221 | k |
| 00:36.29 | Patalbor221 | then I won't put the word "foums" in it |
| 00:36.49 | Patalbor221 | cus you don't have the word forum until lower on the page |
| 00:37.07 | fiberchunks | I like the text in the current logo, if you wouldn't mind just using that |
| 00:37.17 | fiberchunks | not necessarily the font, but I like the text |
| 00:37.27 | Patalbor221 | what font is that? |
| 00:37.32 | Patalbor221 | no prob |
| 00:37.37 | fiberchunks | no idea, you'd have to ask dervish |
| 00:37.41 | fiberchunks | he made that logo |
| 00:37.52 | Patalbor221 | ohh well he's not too happy with me today |
| 00:38.04 | fiberchunks | he's not too happy with many people today |
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| 00:38.28 | fiberchunks | 'use it on my cat' ROFL |
| 00:38.36 | Patalbor221 | hey why not |
| 00:38.57 | Patalbor221 | seriously derv needs to perhaps try some decaf |
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| 00:39.32 | Patalbor221 | would be an understatement |
| 00:39.51 | fiberchunks | I try and stay like switzerland: neutral, baby, neutral |
| 00:39.54 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 00:40.01 | Patalbor221 | I was just trying to tell him he comes off bossy and kinda alloof |
| 00:40.14 | fiberchunks | true sometimes |
| 00:40.30 | Patalbor221 | and he told me my comments were snide and that I should calm down before posting in the forums again |
| 00:40.39 | fiberchunks | in personal conversations with him, he seems alright -- but I totally see where you're coming from |
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| 00:40.52 | Patalbor221 | hell with a tagline like his, it definatly taints how you look at his posts. |
| 00:41.07 | Patalbor221 | yeah he does semm ok, just needs to losen up a bit. |
| 00:41.09 | fiberchunks | hehe, that's what he wanted, that's what I gave him :) |
| 00:41.12 | fiberchunks | true |
| 00:41.59 | Chestal | oh, hot stuff in the forums for me to read? |
| 00:42.05 | fiberchunks | personally, I enjoy my rank, although I've been thinking about changing it to village idiot :) |
| 00:42.17 | Patalbor221 | wandering idiot works too |
| 00:42.29 | fiberchunks | oooo, that's a good one! |
| 00:42.58 | Patalbor221 | best thing about yours is the wandering part |
| 00:43.00 | fiberchunks | confused, yet nomadic -- spreading stupidity everywhere (TM) :) |
| 00:43.14 | Patalbor221 | not stupidity insanity |
| 00:43.17 | Patalbor221 | it's worse |
| 00:43.28 | Chestal | hmm, no |
| 00:43.31 | Chestal | stupidity is evil |
| 00:43.35 | Chestal | insanity is good |
| 00:43.47 | Patalbor221 | yes and that's why he dosn't want to spread it |
| 00:43.56 | Patalbor221 | a bit of insanity can be good |
| 00:44.10 | fiberchunks | wandering loon? |
| 00:44.21 | Patalbor221 | I mean if he wanted to be REALY evil it oculd be "spreading black licorice" everywhere |
| 00:44.33 | Patalbor221 | cus man if evil has a taste it would taste like that. |
| 00:44.34 | Patalbor221 | :) |
| 00:44.36 | Chestal | even better: spread confusion. Can you say 'All hail Eris'? :-) |
| 00:44.49 | Patalbor221 | ther you go |
| 00:44.51 | fiberchunks | manager of disinformation ;) |
| 00:45.05 | Patalbor221 | keeper of the sacred babble. |
| 00:45.10 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 00:45.35 | fiberchunks | btw, if any of you want custom ranks, just let me know |
| 00:45.54 | Chestal | well, off to bed for me, cu tomorrow |
| 00:46.00 | Patalbor221 | see ya |
| 00:46.00 | fiberchunks | hey chestal |
| 00:46.04 | Chestal | a work day.... |
| 00:46.04 | fiberchunks | one minute |
| 00:46.12 | fiberchunks | what was that idea you had the other day? |
| 00:46.17 | fiberchunks | I forgot it already |
| 00:47.01 | Chestal | plan: get up early, shovel snow, shopping, sports, be assessor to a couple of exams |
| 00:47.22 | Chestal | fiber: wanted a place where server admins and player get togerther to discuss the public servers |
| 00:47.46 | fiberchunks | ah -- should I create a 'servers' category, and then a forum for each one? probably best, I imagine |
| 00:48.09 | Chestal | hmm, seems a little inflationary (is that a word?) on forums |
| 00:48.23 | fiberchunks | true, but I can't think of a better way to do it |
| 00:48.23 | Chestal | is there a way to ignore forums you're not interested in? |
| 00:48.39 | fiberchunks | no, unfortunately -- unless I mod the board for a 'rollups' type of thing |
| 00:48.40 | Patalbor221 | inflamitory? |
| 00:49.04 | Patalbor221 | can you get it to remember the rolluped/down pos? and have a unroll all? |
| 00:49.09 | fiberchunks | tried that once, but someone *cough* ^^^^^ didn't like it |
| 00:49.18 | Chestal | I usually click on the 'unread posts since last visit' and use that |
| 00:49.31 | Chestal | woudl eb great if it didn't show the 2 or 3 forums I am no tintersted n |
| 00:49.32 | fiberchunks | yeah - but the mod is complex, and I'd rather not try to break the forum right now |
| 00:49.50 | Chestal | well, maybe one new forumto discuss servers would be enough? |
| 00:50.00 | fiberchunks | since it's actually getting used: however, I am working on a 'new' forum (same stuff, just better locations and all) on a test system |
| 00:50.18 | Chestal | 1 thread in there / server, doesn't even matter when peopel are not so disciplined |
| 00:50.26 | fiberchunks | k -- we'll try it out like that, then, if more is needed / warranted, we'll do that |
| 00:50.36 | Patalbor221 | yeah your forum is used a lot more then all the others in the past it seems, and that's good. |
| 00:50.51 | fiberchunks | good point: servers category - discussion topic - 1 post per server -- good idea |
| 00:50.57 | fiberchunks | thank you |
| 00:51.33 | Chestal | ok, off to bed |
| 00:51.41 | fiberchunks | gnite, thx again |
| 00:52.31 | bzgirl | that gif? |
| 00:52.34 | Patalbor221 | no |
| 00:52.35 | jolly | wow, i just read the forum |
| 00:52.39 | Patalbor221 | no not at all |
| 00:52.51 | jolly | interesting suggestion for a smile pat :( |
| 00:52.51 | Patalbor221 | look at the forum, it's got a new thing |
| 00:52.52 | bzgirl | see that jolly? |
| 00:52.57 | jolly | yeah |
| 00:53.02 | jolly | hmmmmm |
| 00:53.04 | Patalbor221 | ohh not a sugestion |
| 00:53.11 | Patalbor221 | just showing what a freind of mine sent me |
| 00:53.23 | Patalbor221 | somone uses that as an avatar oh his board |
| 00:53.30 | bzgirl | im looking for an equally offensive male version, but cant find one :( |
| 00:53.41 | Patalbor221 | hmmm that would be hard to find |
| 00:53.52 | jolly | yeah, having trouble myself :( |
| 00:54.20 | Patalbor221 | I don't know any women and/or gay men who would waste the time it takes to make something like that |
| 00:54.41 | Patalbor221 | the only demographic I can think of its pervs in the 16-21 year range |
| 00:55.08 | bzgirl | that age isnt exclusive to pervs |
| 00:55.13 | Patalbor221 | true |
| 00:55.21 | Patalbor221 | but I think that age range has the time to make that |
| 00:55.27 | Patalbor221 | and the desire |
| 00:55.32 | bzgirl | hmm |
| 00:55.34 | captain_proton | "that is unless doug blabs and tells the world." |
| 00:55.36 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 00:55.45 | Patalbor221 | well he will |
| 00:55.51 | bzgirl | what are the odds of doug blabbing? |
| 00:56.05 | captain_proton | bzgirl: 100% |
| 00:56.08 | Patalbor221 | 3/1 |
| 00:57.14 | Patalbor221 | tho I don't see him post on the boards |
| 00:57.22 | Patalbor221 | much at least |
| 00:57.56 | Patalbor221 | fiber what is your minimum screen width target for the page? |
| 00:59.29 | Patalbor221 | you know what, I don't think he has even sighend up for the thing, I don't see his name. |
| 01:00.40 | Patalbor221 | or was he "prebaned"? |
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| 01:05.01 | bzdoug_ | whats you be talking about? |
| 01:07.35 | fiberchunks | Patalbor221: preferably in the 600 range |
| 01:08.50 | Patalbor221 | what name? |
| 01:10.09 | bzdoug_ | bzdoug maybe? |
| 01:10.17 | bzdoug_ | I am VERY creative |
| 01:10.31 | bzdoug_ | hmm, is it possible to burn 36x cdroms at 48x? |
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| 01:11.33 | bzdoug_ | yo Noodleman |
| 01:11.58 | Noodleman | hey |
| 01:12.17 | fiberchunks | hey pat, /msging you |
| 01:13.57 | Patalbor221 | I didn't see that name in the list |
| 01:14.21 | bzdoug_ | it is now |
| 01:14.34 | Patalbor221 | coo |
| 01:15.04 | Patalbor221 | I don't know if you can disable the speed check |
| 01:15.22 | bzdoug_ | humph |
| 01:15.26 | bzdoug_ | I read somewhere some people do it |
| 01:15.32 | bzdoug_ | but I cant find any other info |
| 01:17.14 | Patalbor221 | I'm sure there must be some way |
| 01:17.25 | Patalbor221 | proalby a software thing |
| 01:17.28 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 01:17.38 | Patalbor221 | I can ask around at work when I get there tomrow |
| 01:17.52 | bzdoug_ | k |
| 01:17.53 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 01:20.13 | fiberchunks | bzdoug_: what, the processor speed check? |
| 01:20.23 | Patalbor221 | burn speed |
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| 01:20.27 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:20.30 | fiberchunks | nm |
| 01:20.48 | bzdoug_ | someone found my code |
| 01:20.52 | bzdoug_ | I had online |
| 01:21.03 | Noodleman | bbl |
| 01:21.06 | bzdoug_ | ~bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 01:21.11 | Noodleman | you sent me that code |
| 01:21.13 | Noodleman | it's me |
| 01:21.16 | Noodleman | bbl |
| 01:21.17 | bzdoug_ | ooooh |
| 01:21.18 | Patalbor221 | LOL |
| 01:21.34 | bzdoug_ | ibot does the work currently |
| 01:21.36 | | bzdoug_: no idea |
| 01:21.44 | bzdoug_ | ibot shut up |
| 01:21.49 | | you shut up, bzdoug_ |
| 01:21.49 | bzdoug_ | The hardest part about hunting elephants is carrying the decoys. |
| 01:22.14 | Patalbor221 | ~bobots |
| 01:22.16 | | Bobots are everywhere! Game over man! |
| 01:22.21 | Patalbor221 | that they are |
| 01:22.37 | Patalbor221 | and may they rest in peace |
| 01:22.37 | captain_proton | joy |
| 01:22.41 | captain_proton | rap-boy has moved back in |
| 01:22.41 | bzdoug_ | ~die |
| 01:22.43 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 01:23.00 | Patalbor221 | rap boy? |
| 01:23.24 | captain_proton | he listens to rap constantly (not even the small amount of tolerable rap), and usually very loudly |
| 01:23.35 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: don't they all? |
| 01:23.43 | fiberchunks | namely, my girlfriend |
| 01:23.44 | Patalbor221 | why? |
| 01:23.54 | bzdoug_ | captain_proton's friend/brother/father/enemy/uncle |
| 01:23.56 | captain_proton | Patalbor221: some people just don't understand music |
| 01:24.18 | Patalbor221 | well they are allowed there own tastes but why loud |
| 01:24.20 | bzdoug_ | captain_proton: you are studying music or something right? |
| 01:24.25 | fiberchunks | Playing: Pavarotti - Verdi: I vespri siciliani (overature) [0:06/8:30 (1%)] [104Kbps] |
| 01:24.28 | Patalbor221 | it's just a flitpin baseline |
| 01:24.28 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:24.40 | Patalbor221 | playing KMDFM: ultra |
| 01:25.20 | bzdoug_ | at least you dont blast out bass like some people do |
| 01:25.33 | Patalbor221 | woud you peefer 'the egg and me'? |
| 01:25.53 | bzdoug_ | Patalbor221: that jazz sorta |
| 01:26.06 | bzdoug_ | Patalbor221: like in a car, with nothing BUT bass |
| 01:26.09 | Patalbor221 | the piano one that cap says was "crap" |
| 01:26.18 | bzdoug_ | and the door panels are falling off etc |
| 01:26.22 | Patalbor221 | we like the cars.. the cars that go boom. |
| 01:26.24 | bzdoug_ | Patalbor221: yea |
| 01:26.27 | fiberchunks | bzdoug_: yeah, they're called tester discs |
| 01:26.32 | fiberchunks | all they are is bass |
| 01:26.35 | Patalbor221 | go back to 1985 |
| 01:26.36 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: ah |
| 01:26.41 | Patalbor221 | and get any album :) |
| 01:26.49 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 01:26.50 | fiberchunks | from 20 Hz to about 1kHz |
| 01:26.51 | captain_proton | haah |
| 01:26.57 | captain_proton | someone else yelled at him to turn it down |
| 01:27.14 | Patalbor221 | did they use the word "crap"? |
| 01:27.16 | bzdoug_ | get us a live stream feed |
| 01:27.36 | Patalbor221 | cap you should hear the song "how many people want to kick some ass" |
| 01:27.47 | Patalbor221 | it's a parady of the anger/rage/rap stuff |
| 01:28.06 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: this explains all: Linux is the answer. Oh, sorry, what was your question? |
| 01:28.20 | captain_proton | Patalbor221: i have a pdq bach rap song now |
| 01:28.28 | Patalbor221 | ha |
| 01:28.33 | bzdoug_ | nooo |
| 01:28.37 | bzdoug_ | not PDQ bach? |
| 01:28.38 | captain_proton | where peter shickele raps about how difficult it is being in the upper middle class |
| 01:29.03 | Patalbor221 | now playing: Yuki Kajiura- Key of the twilight |
| 01:29.12 | Patalbor221 | realy loud |
| 01:29.19 | Patalbor221 | cus it sounds good realy loud |
| 01:29.19 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 01:29.32 | bzdoug_ | yea, as long as you keep it down |
| 01:29.33 | Patalbor221 | and cap says it's not cap |
| 01:29.48 | Patalbor221 | cap says it's not crap I should say |
| 01:30.02 | bzdoug_ | I should hope so |
| 01:30.14 | bzdoug_ | I don't know anything about music. In my line you don't have to. |
| 01:30.14 | bzdoug_ | --Elvis Presley |
| 01:30.41 | fiberchunks | bzdoug_: what? <bzdoug_> fiberchunks: this explains all: Linux is the answer. Oh, sorry, what was your question? |
| 01:31.13 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: that explains what the problem is with linux users.... :P |
| 01:31.31 | bzdoug_ | and here we go... The only real advantage to punk music is that nobody can whistle it. |
| 01:31.51 | Patalbor221 | sure you can, "you and me punk rock girl" :) |
| 01:32.05 | Patalbor221 | I doubt you've even heard any punk |
| 01:32.23 | Patalbor221 | some of it's not bad |
| 01:32.41 | bzdoug_ | yea, sure |
| 01:32.41 | Patalbor221 | now playing: Jars of clay-flood |
| 01:33.10 | fiberchunks | hrm, alright, whatever you say |
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| 01:33.22 | bzdoug_ | see? dumb names too |
| 01:33.30 | Patalbor221 | what? |
| 01:33.50 | bzdoug_ | at least classical has meaning full names, most of the time |
| 01:33.55 | Patalbor221 | MAC what type of connection are you on that craps out soo much? |
| 01:33.56 | bzdoug_ | Jars of clay-flood? |
| 01:34.07 | Patalbor221 | that's not punk |
| 01:34.22 | Patalbor221 | like the faurthest thing from punk |
| 01:34.29 | Patalbor221 | almost anti-punk |
| 01:34.38 | bzdoug_ | still, stupid name |
| 01:34.43 | Patalbor221 | like 1-punk |
| 01:35.13 | Patalbor221 | actulay I think it's a clever name for a band, Jars of Clay, given there genre |
| 01:35.40 | bzdoug_ | they play with jars of clay? |
| 01:35.45 | Patalbor221 | even tho I would never be allowed to one of there concerts being a heritic an all |
| 01:35.47 | Patalbor221 | no |
| 01:35.54 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 01:36.06 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/music/tabula_rasa |
| 01:36.09 | Patalbor221 | now palaying: Power of 7 - Marathon |
| 01:36.22 | captain_proton | bzdoug_: there are no books on social engineering |
| 01:36.32 | bzdoug_ | captain_proton: my friend is reading one |
| 01:36.44 | Patalbor221 | he just thinks hes reading one |
| 01:36.48 | captain_proton | bzdoug_: is he reading one or trying to make you THINK he's reading one? |
| 01:36.56 | bzdoug_ | captain_proton: but I am looking for a ebook about stories about social engineering |
| 01:37.00 | Patalbor221 | it's all a ploy by "the man" |
| 01:37.09 | bzdoug_ | captain_proton: yes |
| 01:37.12 | captain_proton | everyone listen to the second movement in that directory i gave above |
| 01:37.15 | Patalbor221 | I would be scared of the society you created |
| 01:37.30 | bzdoug_ | then stay away |
| 01:37.39 | bzdoug_ | captain_proton: it be downloading |
| 01:37.42 | Patalbor221 | gonna start a cult then? |
| 01:37.50 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 01:38.45 | bzdoug_ | oh wow, 10 seconds and its up 3 degrees |
| 01:39.24 | bzdoug_ | and god created great wales? |
| 01:39.30 | captain_proton | bzdoug_: yes |
| 01:39.40 | bzdoug_ | classical? |
| 01:39.46 | captain_proton | uhh, sorta |
| 01:39.49 | Patalbor221 | now playing: auumi Hamasaki - evoultion |
| 01:39.49 | captain_proton | alan hovhaness |
| 01:39.58 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 01:40.17 | fiberchunks | how does one do a wild card search within a mysql query? |
| 01:40.37 | fiberchunks | i.e. select foo from foobar where variable="%.%_blah" |
| 01:40.43 | bzdoug_ | stravinsky happy birthday... cool |
| 01:41.30 | bzdoug_ | whats bad about sleep? |
| 01:41.43 | Patalbor221 | I'm suposed to be working |
| 01:41.53 | Patalbor221 | and I don't relay like doing web work |
| 01:41.54 | bzdoug_ | ahhhhh |
| 01:42.09 | bzdoug_ | thats why there is punk ,etc, its to keep people awake.. |
| 01:43.33 | Patalbor221 | currently techno is on |
| 01:43.44 | Patalbor221 | tho this playlist is widely varyed |
| 01:44.11 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 01:44.17 | bzdoug_ | techno.. hmm |
| 01:44.58 | fiberchunks | yay techno! :) |
| 01:45.36 | Patalbor221 | CAN YOU DIG IT!!!?!?! |
| 01:45.54 | bzdoug_ | thats what my dad says |
| 01:46.05 | Patalbor221 | now playing: Vince Dicola - escape |
| 01:46.59 | bzdoug_ | hmmmm, VCDs are terrible looking |
| 01:47.05 | stibnite | uggh. it's not normal for bzfs to use 50% cpu on a athlon MP 1800+, is it? |
| 01:47.27 | Patalbor221 | on windows or leeenox? |
| 01:47.28 | fiberchunks | not sure |
| 01:47.35 | stibnite | 15 players, freebsd |
| 01:47.39 | Patalbor221 | then no |
| 01:47.41 | stibnite | 1.7g0 |
| 01:47.47 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 01:47.56 | bzdoug_ | we found a bug! |
| 01:48.00 | Jormungandr | I kill -9'd mine earlier. |
| 01:48.07 | Patalbor221 | there is a windows bug that makes the server use too much CPU after the first person leaves |
| 01:48.08 | Jormungandr | it was taking 97% of cpu with 0 users. |
| 01:48.15 | fiberchunks | Playing: Gatecrasher - Plasma [0:03/74:36 (0%)] [128Kbps] |
| 01:48.15 | stibnite | hrm |
| 01:48.46 | stibnite | well it's using 50% but it would use all it could, methinks. |
| 01:49.13 | bzdoug_ | tomita - Holst the Planets.mp3 |
| 01:49.51 | Noodleman | mine takes 97$ of a 1.2gig duron with 10 players on certain maps |
| 01:50.06 | Noodleman | 97% * |
| 01:50.10 | Jormungandr | I just restarted, and am gunna keep an eye on it. |
| 01:50.16 | bzdoug_ | Noodleman: interesting |
| 01:50.19 | Jormungandr | this one had no players. |
| 01:50.23 | fiberchunks | wow, I always thought bz was a 'non-processor-intensive' app |
| 01:50.32 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: it tis |
| 01:50.37 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: er, was... :) |
| 01:50.42 | Jormungandr | I think something is up with recent cvs |
| 01:50.44 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:50.58 | bzdoug_ | George Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue.mp3 |
| 01:50.59 | fiberchunks | have you all down-graded and checked? |
| 01:51.00 | Jormungandr | because it was fine until I caught it driving up load earlier today. |
| 01:51.02 | Noodleman | this is with 1.7g0 too |
| 01:51.16 | Jormungandr | gunna wait until I see it get high load again. |
| 01:51.27 | Patalbor221 | now playing: Dave Mathews band - the space between |
| 01:51.33 | Jormungandr | then I'll run it from old version |
| 01:51.38 | bzdoug_ | between.....? |
| 01:51.38 | fiberchunks | Patalbor? |
| 01:51.41 | bzdoug_ | the ears? |
| 01:51.55 | bzdoug_ | ~dict albor |
| 01:52.10 | bzdoug_ | ~spell albor |
| 01:52.10 | | possible spellings for albor: labor arbor |
| 01:52.19 | Patalbor221 | Patrol Labor |
| 01:52.25 | bzdoug_ | hmmm, arbor... |
| 01:52.29 | Patalbor221 | GFR |
| 01:52.30 | bzdoug_ | ~dict arbor |
| 01:52.44 | bzdoug_ | patrol tree! |
| 01:52.45 | bzdoug_ | woo |
| 01:52.49 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 01:52.51 | Patalbor221 | LABOR |
| 01:52.57 | bzdoug_ | ~dict gfr |
| 01:53.05 | Patalbor221 | it's an acryonim |
| 01:53.11 | bzdoug_ | ah? |
| 01:53.17 | bzdoug_ | ~dict IRS |
| 01:53.24 | *** join/#bzflag paul (~paul@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 01:53.27 | bzdoug_ | thats an acryonim |
| 01:53.33 | bzdoug_ | ~spell acryonim |
| 01:53.33 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'acryonim' |
| 01:53.40 | bzdoug_ | unless thing |
| 01:53.57 | bzdoug_ | ~literal dict |
| 01:54.02 | stibnite | ahh better. |
| 01:54.10 | fiberchunks | paul: i agree with your take on things regarding the whole crashin thing, but I'm just entirely not sure it's dervish |
| 01:54.16 | stibnite | now it's back to its usual 0.10% cpu usage |
| 01:54.19 | paul | heya fiberchunks |
| 01:54.23 | fiberchunks | Patalbor221: what happened to your nick |
| 01:54.26 | fiberchunks | paul: hey |
| 01:54.28 | paul | fiberchunks: what are the IPs you've seen |
| 01:54.30 | stibnite | AND my daemontool-ized setup works nice! |
| 01:54.40 | fiberchunks | from the 64.17x range |
| 01:54.41 | stibnite | all i had to do was /shutdownserver and it bounced right back!! |
| 01:54.43 | bzdoug_ | stibnite: whats that? |
| 01:54.47 | paul | fiberchunks: more specifically, got traceroutes from your server to the IPs. |
| 01:54.48 | bzdoug_ | stibnite: that sounds cool |
| 01:54.53 | paul | fiberchunks: oh all ion the same range? |
| 01:54.57 | fiberchunks | which dervish is, most certainly a part of |
| 01:54.58 | paul | fiberchunks: quel surprise. |
| 01:54.58 | fiberchunks | yes |
| 01:54.59 | stibnite | it's like a nanny that restarts the server if it crashes. |
| 01:55.09 | paul | fiberchunks: do you not find it suspicious |
| 01:55.12 | bzdoug_ | stibnite: ah, Noodleman has one of them I think |
| 01:55.14 | stibnite | and it handles logging, too. |
| 01:55.27 | stibnite | i keep a blow-by-blow log |
| 01:55.27 | Patalbor221 | what is wrong with it? |
| 01:55.34 | paul | fiberchunks: i have a vague vague memory of seeing dervish "testing" a modded client a long time ago |
| 01:55.36 | fiberchunks | paul: yes I do -- but I won't make a final judgement until such evidence is provided proof positive |
| 01:55.44 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 01:55.48 | Noodleman | it's called daemontools |
| 01:55.50 | paul | fiberchunks: i've heard other people say they've seen same thing |
| 01:55.57 | fiberchunks | paul: not even that long ago (couple nights ago on dutchrai's server) |
| 01:56.01 | Noodleman | http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html |
| 01:56.07 | paul | fiberchunks: the guy is a cheat! |
| 01:56.09 | bzdoug_ | Noodleman: heh lol |
| 01:56.12 | fiberchunks | paul: regarding different ip? |
| 01:56.26 | paul | fiberchunks: they were all from the same range? |
| 01:56.31 | paul | fiberchunks: that comes down to my "circumstance" so. |
| 01:56.49 | paul | do we know what kind of net connection he has? |
| 01:57.01 | fiberchunks | paul: now that you mention it -- my database isn't up to date (and prunes quite often), but I could swear that there were at least 2 instances of it not being in the same range |
| 01:57.05 | fiberchunks | DSL |
| 01:57.27 | paul | Noodleman: errmm... recc'ding djb tools? eek. |
| 01:57.36 | paul | Noodleman: read the licence carefully before you use his code |
| 01:57.44 | Noodleman | reccomending? |
| 01:57.48 | paul | Noodleman: and look at the code carefully before you use it |
| 01:57.55 | Noodleman | why? |
| 01:58.11 | Noodleman | the license isn't bad at all |
| 01:58.21 | Noodleman | it's just not 'open source' per se |
| 01:58.26 | paul | Noodleman: sort of.. but be careful about including it into other stuff. |
| 01:58.40 | fiberchunks | well, here: dervishes IPs, (that I've seen him use), are 64.172.15.xx |
| 01:58.46 | Noodleman | i don't code in C anyway |
| 01:58.47 | fiberchunks | paul: ^^ |
| 01:58.57 | paul | fiberchunks: the guys a cheat. full stop. |
| 01:59.18 | Noodleman | and besides, his stuff is so good, i'd probably use it if it was proprientary too |
| 01:59.25 | paul | fiberchunks: the alternative is that someone using the same ISP. |
| 01:59.35 | Noodleman | take a look here: http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html |
| 01:59.40 | Jormungandr | we covered that already. |
| 01:59.41 | fiberchunks | and the crashin character uses: 64.175.241.xx |
| 01:59.45 | Jormungandr | not easy to do. |
| 01:59.53 | paul | fiberchunks: and if a big isp - their PPPoE session goes to the same terminating router. |
| 02:00.15 | paul | Noodleman: he also has a tendecny to reimplment most of libc. |
| 02:00.20 | fiberchunks | SBC is that service -- I'm in the 64.252 range myself (which is snet), and 64.17x is pacbell |
| 02:00.30 | paul | fiberchunks: pbe |
| 02:00.30 | Noodleman | he does that for a reason |
| 02:00.45 | fiberchunks | pbe? |
| 02:00.49 | Noodleman | brb |
| 02:00.53 | bzdoug_ | PDQ |
| 02:00.56 | paul | fiberchunks: pacific bell |
| 02:00.57 | bzdoug_ | ~dict PDQ |
| 02:01.01 | fiberchunks | yah |
| 02:01.03 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 02:01.05 | bzdoug_ | it should |
| 02:01.06 | paul | fiberchunks: pbi - sorry. |
| 02:01.08 | bzdoug_ | ~pdq? |
| 02:01.10 | | Printing system. URL: http://feynman.tam.uiuc.edu/pdq/ or pretty darn quick |
| 02:01.17 | bzdoug_ | aha |
| 02:01.37 | paul | fiberchunks: 62.252 is miles away from 64.175. :) |
| 02:01.39 | fiberchunks | well, see the differences there? derv is 64.172.15.xxx, and crashin is 64.175.xxx.xxx |
| 02:01.49 | fiberchunks | paul: 64.252 |
| 02:02.13 | fiberchunks | yeah, but we're all part of sbc / pacbell / snet / yahoo now (for DSL anywho) |
| 02:02.24 | paul | fiberchunks: hhmmm. |
| 02:02.26 | bzdoug_ | not me!! |
| 02:02.26 | paul | fiberchunks: whois 64.175.241@hibernia |
| 02:02.27 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:02.32 | bzdoug_ | I have dsl... :) |
| 02:02.38 | paul | PPPoX-pool rback10 SBCIS-101422-214752 (NET-64-175-240-0-1) |
| 02:02.45 | paul | # whois 64.175.15@hibernia |
| 02:02.50 | paul | VPNetTechnologies1610464 SBCIS-10151-111113 (NET-64-175-15-0-1) |
| 02:02.52 | bzdoug_ | pppoe is terrible to put on someone.... |
| 02:03.00 | paul | who is VPNetTechnologies? |
| 02:03.04 | bzdoug_ | I have my own gateway and ip |
| 02:03.05 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:03.12 | fiberchunks | no idea, some subset of sbc, I wager |
| 02:03.14 | paul | fiberchunks: do we know who dervish works for? |
| 02:03.20 | fiberchunks | no |
| 02:03.24 | fiberchunks | himself, I think |
| 02:03.40 | paul | whats his website again? |
| 02:03.44 | paul | dervishducat.org? |
| 02:03.45 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:03.46 | paul | dervishducot.org? |
| 02:03.56 | fiberchunks | change c to k |
| 02:04.21 | Noodleman | paul: have you every used djb's tools? |
| 02:04.42 | paul | Noodleman: no. |
| 02:04.49 | paul | Noodleman: i'm sure they're great. |
| 02:04.50 | bzdoug_ | is he the guy that mad PNG2BZW? |
| 02:04.56 | bzdoug_ | made* |
| 02:04.57 | paul | Noodleman: i just have an aversion to djv |
| 02:05.00 | paul | djb even |
| 02:05.02 | Noodleman | you really should check them out |
| 02:05.08 | paul | i'll have a look. |
| 02:05.23 | Noodleman | i use djb's stuff whenever possible |
| 02:05.33 | fiberchunks | bzdoug_: no, that's his blind ambition, iirc |
| 02:05.34 | Noodleman | except his web server |
| 02:05.43 | Noodleman | doesn't do php :-) |
| 02:05.47 | bzdoug_ | AHH |
| 02:07.00 | fiberchunks | paul: dig adsl-64-175-15-11.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net adsl-64-175-15-11.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net. 7200 IN A 64.175.15.11 |
| 02:07.21 | paul | hmm.. |
| 02:07.29 | fiberchunks | paul: dig adsl-64-175-241-3.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net. adsl-64-175-241-3.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net. 172800 IN A 64.175.241.3 |
| 02:07.40 | fiberchunks | 1st is dervish, 2nd is crashin |
| 02:07.51 | fiberchunks | both on pacbell |
| 02:07.53 | bzdoug_ | interesting |
| 02:08.04 | fiberchunks | if that means anything |
| 02:08.06 | fiberchunks | ? |
| 02:08.07 | Noodleman | pacbell is a big isp |
| 02:08.10 | Noodleman | not surprising |
| 02:08.11 | fiberchunks | yes tis |
| 02:08.36 | fiberchunks | technically, I'm part of pacbell, being a part of SBC, who now owns everything DSL related, imho :\ |
| 02:08.55 | paul | fiberchunks: sntc and snfc - hmm... |
| 02:09.03 | bzdoug_ | not me |
| 02:09.05 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:09.12 | bzdoug_ | I use bluegrass.net... :P |
| 02:09.12 | fiberchunks | paul: what's that, different routers? |
| 02:10.04 | *** join/#bzflag jolly (~bzjolly81@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 02:10.46 | paul | fiberchunks: could mean anything |
| 02:11.41 | paul | fiberchunks: i see snfc, lsan, pltn, scrm, anhm, etc.. |
| 02:11.50 | paul | which suggests they are abbreviations of places? |
| 02:11.55 | paul | anhm -> anaheim? |
| 02:11.58 | paul | snfc? |
| 02:12.07 | paul | sn -> santa? |
| 02:12.09 | paul | fc? |
| 02:12.10 | paul | tc? |
| 02:12.16 | paul | anyone know california? |
| 02:12.26 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:12.41 | bzdoug_ | I had a mobo named anaheim, and I know thats in caluf |
| 02:12.43 | bzdoug_ | calif |
| 02:12.45 | fiberchunks | sandiego, sanfrancisco, la, etc - that's about it |
| 02:12.46 | paul | snfc -> santa f-something |
| 02:12.58 | paul | sntc -> santa ...?? |
| 02:13.08 | Patalbor221 | I am in CA |
| 02:13.08 | paul | John Suit dervishdukot@hotmail.com (510) 795-9 |
| 02:13.08 | paul | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.08 | paul | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.08 | paul | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.20 | Noodleman | sntc -> santa clara? |
| 02:13.22 | bzdoug_ | ~google for freemont |
| 02:13.29 | fiberchunks | good god, what tool does that? |
| 02:13.31 | Patalbor221 | proalby |
| 02:13.39 | Patalbor221 | tho that's a small area |
| 02:13.40 | fiberchunks | I want it |
| 02:13.46 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: calledgoogle.com |
| 02:13.47 | paul | snfc -> S-something N-somthing Freemont, california |
| 02:14.01 | fiberchunks | ~sud |
| 02:14.07 | | shut up doug |
| 02:14.08 | fiberchunks | I know that |
| 02:14.15 | Noodleman | lol |
| 02:14.16 | fiberchunks | the dig that paul did above |
| 02:14.18 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: :) works great |
| 02:14.26 | Widget | What's all this about Dervish? |
| 02:14.36 | fiberchunks | argh |
| 02:14.52 | fiberchunks | paul: how'd you dig that? |
| 02:14.55 | bzdoug_ | 'lo Widget |
| 02:14.59 | Patalbor221 | snf could b san fernando |
| 02:15.00 | Widget | bzdoug_: hihihi |
| 02:15.06 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:15.10 | paul | fiberchunks: whois dervishdukot.org |
| 02:15.13 | Noodleman | lo widget |
| 02:15.28 | Widget | Noodleman: hihihi |
| 02:15.58 | Patalbor221 | freemont is northern CA |
| 02:16.05 | fiberchunks | paul: thx |
| 02:16.14 | Patalbor221 | south of SF |
| 02:16.34 | bzdoug_ | wow, did a search for Tucker McLean. |
| 02:16.40 | paul | ok. sntc is santa clara |
| 02:16.46 | fiberchunks | paul: so my whole point is, being as unsure of the data as I am, I'd rather not toss accusations about until we have some solid facts |
| 02:17.01 | Patalbor221 | stanta clara is lower |
| 02:17.12 | Patalbor221 | near me, about 4 hours away |
| 02:17.14 | Patalbor221 | down south |
| 02:17.26 | fiberchunks | how's the weather in CA, btw |
| 02:17.35 | Widget | Why are you trying to find out where Dervish lives? :-) |
| 02:17.35 | fiberchunks | snow here |
| 02:17.41 | Patalbor221 | ohh no, it's not |
| 02:17.44 | Patalbor221 | it's near freemont |
| 02:17.44 | fiberchunks | we're not |
| 02:17.49 | paul | fiberchunks: ok.. 64.175.15.1 (dervish) is snfc is san francisco. |
| 02:17.51 | Patalbor221 | like dead nutz near there |
| 02:17.53 | bzdoug_ | Widget: but they did anyway |
| 02:17.56 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~chatzilla@bc176248.bendcable.com) |
| 02:18.00 | Noodleman | crap |
| 02:18.04 | paul | fiberchunks: 64.175.241.3 (crasher) is sntc is santa clara. |
| 02:18.10 | Noodleman | typed the wrong command :-) |
| 02:18.15 | paul | Patalbor221: are santa clara and san francisco close to each other? |
| 02:18.19 | Patalbor221 | very |
| 02:18.21 | fiberchunks | my question too |
| 02:18.26 | paul | Patalbor221: and close to freemont? |
| 02:18.33 | Patalbor221 | 20 miles |
| 02:18.37 | Widget | fiberchunks: What are you doing, then? |
| 02:18.40 | Patalbor221 | http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=avUQOXW%2b%2fCUlOiBsj9NZ7z6%2bcFL8g5DSPYjU7XpSq%2bb6EblCvkBPBbUqsCsL5541lvrAGJqp2RYJane6uUDZaA%3d%3d&address=&city=santa%20clara&state=&zipcode=&country=US&addtohistory= |
| 02:18.49 | paul | Patalbor221: thnka |
| 02:18.59 | paul | Patalbor221: what about santa monica? |
| 02:19.05 | Patalbor221 | that's near me |
| 02:19.07 | fiberchunks | Widget: trying to figure out who this crashin' character is who keeps jamming servers up |
| 02:19.12 | Patalbor221 | 6 hrs south |
| 02:19.31 | bzdoug_ | Patalbor221: go visit him |
| 02:19.32 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:19.34 | fiberchunks | and clients |
| 02:19.37 | bzdoug_ | scare him |
| 02:19.40 | Patalbor221 | I can get to santa monica in about 30 min from here |
| 02:19.43 | bzdoug_ | say "boo." |
| 02:19.46 | paul | fiberchunks: so basically.. dervish's DSL is in San Fran. |
| 02:19.51 | Patalbor221 | he's in freemont, that's about a 4-5 hour drive |
| 02:19.57 | fiberchunks | seems that way, yes |
| 02:20.00 | paul | fiberchunks: he's got a domain registered and his address is given as Freemont (maybe he moved?) |
| 02:20.07 | fiberchunks | dunno |
| 02:20.10 | paul | fiberchunks: and the cheater is Santa Clara. |
| 02:20.11 | Patalbor221 | yes more of the san jose/cupertio area |
| 02:20.36 | fiberchunks | the crasher is in Santa Clara, yes |
| 02:20.39 | paul | he might work in Santa Clara. |
| 02:20.47 | fiberchunks | point |
| 02:20.48 | paul | at VPNetTechnologies :) |
| 02:20.51 | Patalbor221 | hell my old DSL used to rout thru there |
| 02:20.52 | fiberchunks | point 2 |
| 02:20.54 | Patalbor221 | it's a big ass hub |
| 02:21.15 | paul | aha |
| 02:21.18 | Patalbor221 | I don't think he's emploied at this time |
| 02:21.26 | fiberchunks | neither do I |
| 02:21.33 | paul | ah |
| 02:21.43 | paul | anyway.. its suspicious |
| 02:21.47 | paul | either: |
| 02:21.48 | fiberchunks | self-employed, last time we talked |
| 02:22.06 | bzdoug_ | bwuahhaa |
| 02:22.17 | Patalbor221 | ohh god you blabed didn't you? |
| 02:22.27 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:22.31 | captain_proton | self-employed? |
| 02:22.53 | captain_proton | like standing outside with a bit of cardboard? |
| 02:22.53 | Patalbor221 | he's got some sort of software thing he aluded too. |
| 02:22.58 | paul | fiberchunks: why not file an abuse report? |
| 02:22.59 | Noodleman | bwuahhaa |
| 02:23.10 | paul | fiberchunks: that IP range appears to be a company. |
| 02:23.18 | bzdoug_ | we are even |
| 02:23.19 | Patalbor221 | he could colo |
| 02:23.33 | fiberchunks | personally, I don't see it as abuse -- just an irritating nuisance, and more of a bzflag client / server issue than anything else |
| 02:23.34 | paul | fiberchunks: so who knows.. maybe the crasher'd get a rap on the knuckles for abusing company network. |
| 02:23.47 | bzdoug_ | oooh, Patalbor221's address |
| 02:23.48 | Noodleman | Foo -> bzdoug_ |
| 02:23.55 | Patalbor221 | what is my address? |
| 02:24.06 | bzdoug_ | 323Science Drive Moorpark, California 93021 |
| 02:24.09 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:24.11 | bzdoug_ | maybe |
| 02:24.14 | bzdoug_ | thats work maybe |
| 02:24.32 | Patalbor221 | that's my day job |
| 02:24.38 | bzdoug_ | and it gets routed no-ip.com |
| 02:24.47 | Patalbor221 | a yup |
| 02:24.56 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:24.57 | Patalbor221 | no-ip.com kicks bigtime ass |
| 02:24.58 | bzdoug_ | interesting |
| 02:25.01 | bzdoug_ | indeed |
| 02:25.11 | fiberchunks | paul: but, i'll leave to the rest of the community to decide -- I'm tired of it all really :( |
| 02:25.15 | Patalbor221 | that way I don't have to host a dns server there |
| 02:25.32 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 02:25.38 | bzdoug_ | dns servers are hard to setup |
| 02:25.38 | fiberchunks | I've no interest in it other than seeing that the client / server crashes end |
| 02:25.44 | Noodleman | use djbdns, it's not the dns that's hard, it's just BIND :-) |
| 02:25.49 | Patalbor221 | well he is named after a bandit in EQ and a Cardasian, and we know both are EVIL :) |
| 02:25.49 | paul | fiberchunks: aye thats annoying. |
| 02:25.51 | bzdoug_ | aha |
| 02:25.54 | bzdoug_ | now thats better |
| 02:26.07 | bzdoug_ | http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=323+Science+Dr&city=Moorpark&state=CA&csz=Moorpark,+CA+93021-2092&slt=34.280774&sln=-118.869450&zip=93021-2092&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&cs=9&name=&desc=&poititle=&poi=&uz=93021&ds=n&mag=9&newmag=10 |
| 02:26.18 | Patalbor221 | yup |
| 02:26.20 | bzdoug_ | if anyone wants to visit Patalbor221 at work |
| 02:26.26 | paul | fiberchunks: its just his explanation sounds /so/ suspicious (when you consider he's been /known/ to run modded clients) |
| 02:26.29 | Patalbor221 | and my house is like right on the otherside of that blue line |
| 02:26.29 | fiberchunks | I'm wondering if it's a malformed packet, sent as a /superkill command |
| 02:26.35 | fiberchunks | paul: concur |
| 02:26.38 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 02:26.39 | paul | fiberchunks: havnt a clue |
| 02:26.56 | fiberchunks | captain_proton or any other network guru -- is that possible? |
| 02:27.07 | fiberchunks | i.e. sending a malformed packet as a /superkill |
| 02:27.16 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: I dont think so... you need to be admin to send a superkill |
| 02:27.18 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: /superkill can only be sent by the server |
| 02:27.23 | captain_proton | and thats NOT how the crasher works |
| 02:27.23 | Patalbor221 | he sent us a mail saying he found an exploit |
| 02:27.30 | paul | fiberchunks: eg.. he may have run through all of PBIs 64.160/16 netblock looking for an address range that wasnt filtered properly. |
| 02:27.31 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: how does it work? |
| 02:27.39 | Patalbor221 | assload of shots |
| 02:27.44 | captain_proton | it causes a buffer overflow because there was some unchecked value |
| 02:27.45 | bzdoug_ | ~bzedit |
| 02:27.47 | | from memory, bzedit is http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/tarballs/bzedit-2.1.tar.gz on linux http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit for windows |
| 02:27.49 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 02:28.06 | Noodleman | doug, you live next to a golf course |
| 02:28.13 | fiberchunks | good enough, I'm done with it |
| 02:28.18 | bzdoug_ | Noodleman: Indeed I do |
| 02:28.23 | Jormungandr | whoever did it would have to know him, know that he was a bzflagger, have it out for him, and be on the same network. |
| 02:28.26 | Noodleman | i can see you |
| 02:28.33 | paul | Jormungandr: its /very/ unlikely |
| 02:28.47 | bzdoug_ | Patalbor221 house or work? |
| 02:28.55 | Patalbor221 | werk |
| 02:28.58 | bzdoug_ | ahh |
| 02:28.59 | Jormungandr | also would have to be be somewhat of a coder |
| 02:29.07 | Jormungandr | and a GOOD hacker |
| 02:29.15 | fiberchunks | hey Patalbor221, what is 'frustrum culling'? |
| 02:29.17 | paul | Jormungandr: though according to fibre the crashes is actually with src == 64.175.241.x |
| 02:29.25 | Jormungandr | odds get less and less as you add things on. |
| 02:29.29 | paul | crasher even. |
| 02:29.35 | fiberchunks | among others, like I say, my db gets pruned relatively often |
| 02:29.38 | captain_proton | culling to the frustum |
| 02:29.43 | Jormungandr | not the first night. |
| 02:29.46 | captain_proton | ~dict cull |
| 02:29.48 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: thanks you :) |
| 02:29.51 | Jormungandr | my server got hit, and I did a netstat |
| 02:29.54 | captain_proton | ~dict frustum |
| 02:29.55 | paul | Jormungandr: what you mean? |
| 02:29.58 | paul | Jormungandr: and? |
| 02:29.58 | Patalbor221 | removing things that are outside the view so they are not drawn |
| 02:30.10 | Jormungandr | it was EXACTLY one of his ips |
| 02:30.14 | fiberchunks | ~dict apical |
| 02:30.15 | paul | Jormungandr: ah |
| 02:30.18 | Jormungandr | not just on same network. |
| 02:30.25 | paul | Jormungandr: netstat - tcp or udp? |
| 02:30.27 | bzdoug_ | ~die |
| 02:30.29 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 02:30.31 | Jormungandr | netstat |
| 02:30.35 | Jormungandr | tcp |
| 02:30.38 | paul | Jormungandr: tcp? |
| 02:30.42 | paul | ah furk that.. |
| 02:30.43 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 02:30.47 | paul | has to be him |
| 02:30.51 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 02:30.52 | Jormungandr | agree |
| 02:31.03 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: the 'frustum' is a pyrimidal shaped volume that the opengl "camera" can see |
| 02:31.04 | paul | ESTABLISHED? |
| 02:31.06 | Jormungandr | I pasted it here in the channel at the time. |
| 02:31.08 | Jormungandr | yes |
| 02:31.13 | paul | its him. |
| 02:31.30 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: based on the players' view? |
| 02:31.36 | Patalbor221 | fiber yes |
| 02:31.39 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: got an ip I could see? |
| 02:31.40 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: based on whatever the "camera" sees |
| 02:32.00 | Jormungandr | doug... that was a few days ago.. it's not in any of my scrollback buffers anymore. |
| 02:32.03 | fiberchunks | the 'camera' being how defined? |
| 02:32.09 | Patalbor221 | take the Field of view, and project planes out in those directions and cap it with the near and far plane |
| 02:32.11 | Jormungandr | unless you keep a channel log :) |
| 02:32.14 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: oh |
| 02:32.17 | Jormungandr | hrm. |
| 02:32.22 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: I do, but it seems to be broken |
| 02:32.22 | Patalbor221 | more of a zugurat then a pyrmaid :) |
| 02:32.25 | Jormungandr | let me see if I am running a channel log. |
| 02:32.28 | fiberchunks | ah, ic |
| 02:32.29 | Jormungandr | I MIGHT |
| 02:32.33 | bzdoug_ | k |
| 02:32.45 | fiberchunks | do octrees require, or enable frustrum culling? |
| 02:32.56 | Jormungandr | nope. |
| 02:33.04 | bzdoug_ | k |
| 02:33.07 | Jormungandr | I sometimes turn it on and forget to turn it off. |
| 02:33.07 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:33.09 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:33.20 | Patalbor221 | fiber they can help with it |
| 02:33.20 | bzdoug_ | I keep mine on, but it seems to have gotten full |
| 02:33.27 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 02:33.29 | fiberchunks | k |
| 02:33.44 | Jormungandr | ;) |
| 02:33.59 | bzdoug_ | haaaaa |
| 02:34.15 | paul | i reckon bzdoug is a bot |
| 02:34.18 | bzdoug_ | why am I using 39 gig of drive space? |
| 02:34.23 | paul | wow. |
| 02:34.26 | bzdoug_ | cuz I keep everyzip that I get |
| 02:34.26 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:35.00 | paul | my homedir is 780MB |
| 02:35.14 | paul | mostly mail. |
| 02:35.29 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:35.31 | Jormungandr | see who I can deluser |
| 02:35.32 | Jormungandr | ;) |
| 02:35.39 | paul | i have quotas on my home machine specifically to prevent my homedir run away with me :) |
| 02:35.46 | bzdoug_ | well, I have a cdburn being put to use... |
| 02:35.48 | paul | from me even. |
| 02:35.53 | Jormungandr | a friend of mine consistantly uses 13 gig. :( |
| 02:35.56 | bzdoug_ | haha |
| 02:35.58 | Jormungandr | about to rm -rf him |
| 02:36.01 | paul | haha |
| 02:36.02 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:36.14 | bzdoug_ | http://www.xpenguin.com/crashme.php |
| 02:36.18 | paul | back in uni i made do with a 7MB homedir. |
| 02:36.21 | bzdoug_ | there, all people try it out |
| 02:36.25 | bzdoug_ | paul: ugh |
| 02:36.44 | bzdoug_ | paul: ugh ugh, nasty, where did you put all 9000 mp3s? |
| 02:36.55 | paul | bzdoug_: didnt have mp3s back then :) |
| 02:37.09 | paul | (i have a few gigs of mp3s - but i dont keep them in my homedir. |
| 02:37.09 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 02:37.11 | paul | ) |
| 02:37.14 | bzdoug_ | you had aifs |
| 02:37.16 | bzdoug_ | or wavs |
| 02:37.20 | paul | yes |
| 02:37.21 | bzdoug_ | or something even older |
| 02:37.28 | Jormungandr | I am not fond of redhat's default drive partitioning. |
| 02:37.38 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 02:37.41 | bzdoug_ | I dont care |
| 02:37.42 | bzdoug_ | :P |
| 02:37.51 | bzdoug_ | I install everything off the RH8 cds... :) |
| 02:37.52 | paul | Jormungandr: i always go to fdisk and manually partition |
| 02:37.55 | Jormungandr | well, I'm using it.. i still don't like it :) |
| 02:37.56 | bzdoug_ | I dont need to download much... |
| 02:38.03 | Jormungandr | paul, I normally do |
| 02:38.05 | bzdoug_ | http://www.xpenguin.com/blackhole.php |
| 02:38.06 | paul | Jormungandr: the RH disk druid install thingy never lays out partitions nicely. |
| 02:38.12 | Jormungandr | I nusta had a weak moment. |
| 02:38.12 | bzdoug_ | I want a blackhole... :) |
| 02:38.14 | Jormungandr | musta |
| 02:38.23 | Jormungandr | tell me about it :( |
| 02:38.24 | paul | Jormungandr: definitely. |
| 02:38.41 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 02:38.43 | Jormungandr | I've had to ln stuff across partitions like crazy |
| 02:38.48 | bzdoug_ | I manually partition with druid |
| 02:38.57 | paul | Jormungandr: lvm |
| 02:39.02 | paul | Jormungandr: [root@hibernia linux]# df | grep ^/dev | wc -l |
| 02:39.02 | paul | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.04 | Jormungandr | next time one big partition ;) |
| 02:39.08 | paul | Jormungandr: eek no |
| 02:39.10 | paul | Jormungandr: lvm |
| 02:39.23 | bzdoug_ | haha |
| 02:39.30 | paul | Jormungandr: then you get to create lots of smaller (but perfectly sized) partitions |
| 02:39.35 | bzdoug_ | one big partition? what... you trying to run windows or somethin? |
| 02:39.47 | paul | Jormungandr: without hassle |
| 02:40.04 | Jormungandr | actually, I don't do a lot of reconfiguring once I have a server going. |
| 02:40.10 | paul | Jormungandr: and reallocate space as you need to. (without too much hassle: umount, e2fsadm, mount) |
| 02:40.17 | Patalbor221 | like grilly giggles? |
| 02:40.18 | Jormungandr | it's sorta against my religion :) |
| 02:40.28 | paul | Jormungandr: one tries not to |
| 02:40.45 | Jormungandr | I have 6 partitions over 2 drives right now. |
| 02:40.52 | paul | Jormungandr: until one rents a colo server and finds it has 18GB / and 2GB swap |
| 02:40.57 | Jormungandr | not counting swap |
| 02:41.16 | bzdoug_ | http://www.xpenguin.com/lamenesscheck.php?site=http%3A%2F%2Fbakadigital.com |
| 02:41.31 | paul | Jormungandr: i like to put as much stuff onto its own partition as possible. |
| 02:41.59 | paul | Jormungandr: eg /var/log (maybe even /var/log/httpd), /var/tmp, /var/www, /tmp, /home, etc.. |
| 02:42.06 | paul | the more the better. |
| 02:42.14 | Jormungandr | the thing with colo boxes, and I know about those, is that the least amount of maintenance possible means fewer partitions. |
| 02:42.18 | paul | (according to what runs on the box) |
| 02:42.27 | bzdoug_ | hmm, does anyone know how to setup apache so all the users get ~username ? |
| 02:42.32 | paul | Jormungandr: not if you use lvm. |
| 02:42.34 | Jormungandr | mostly because customers can't manage their own stuff well enough to partition. |
| 02:42.41 | Jormungandr | customers don't do lvm |
| 02:42.56 | Jormungandr | customers barely do ftp |
| 02:43.01 | bzdoug_ | friends dont let friends use windows |
| 02:43.11 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr what DO they use? |
| 02:43.14 | bzdoug_ | floppys? |
| 02:43.17 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:43.21 | paul | bzdoug_: since when did you start using linux? |
| 02:43.23 | paul | :) |
| 02:43.36 | bzdoug_ | paul: hmm, I meant linux |
| 02:43.43 | paul | bzdoug_: :) |
| 02:43.45 | Jormungandr | we have a handful of customers who supposedly admin their own servers, and we still end up doing most everything for them. |
| 02:43.47 | bzdoug_ | thats a bumber sticker sold by the local mac store |
| 02:43.51 | Jormungandr | and we are expensive :) |
| 02:43.54 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:44.08 | bzdoug_ | I imagin |
| 02:44.28 | Jormungandr | $75/hr for most stuff |
| 02:44.34 | Jormungandr | no prorating |
| 02:44.41 | Jormungandr | if we go 61 minutes, it's 2 hours. |
| 02:44.46 | paul | Jormungandr: well, i repartitioned and upgraded kernel on the colo box, by using the swap partition as a "staging" partition, so i could repartition /. took about 4 calls to the helpdeks (reboot box please and choose foo from the grub menu) |
| 02:45.00 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 02:45.13 | Jormungandr | we'll do that :) |
| 02:45.13 | paul | i'm proud of that :) |
| 02:45.16 | Jormungandr | for a price |
| 02:45.18 | Jormungandr | pretty cool |
| 02:45.31 | Jormungandr | brb.... |
| 02:45.38 | paul | rackspace do reboots for free :) |
| 02:45.41 | paul | night peeps |
| 02:45.58 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:46.22 | Noodleman | bzdoug_: you add this to your httpd.conf: UserDir public_html |
| 02:46.22 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 02:46.22 | bzdoug_ | ok |
| 02:46.33 | Noodleman | they all have to have a directory called public_html in their homedir |
| 02:47.10 | bzdoug_ | oh |
| 02:47.14 | bzdoug_ | how about a www folder? |
| 02:47.21 | bzdoug_ | UserDir www? |
| 02:47.21 | Noodleman | and their homedir needs to be chmod 711 |
| 02:47.25 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 02:47.27 | Noodleman | that'd work |
| 02:47.28 | bzdoug_ | thats why |
| 02:47.30 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:50.35 | bzdoug_ | whoops |
| 02:50.48 | bzdoug_ | never drag documents and settings to a cdrom |
| 02:53.09 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 02:53.13 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:53.17 | bzdoug_ | slightly large |
| 02:53.24 | bzdoug_ | my desktop folder is nearly 2 gigs |
| 02:53.33 | Patalbor221 | whus |
| 02:53.43 | Patalbor221 | try 27 gigs :) |
| 02:54.03 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 02:54.34 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:54.45 | bzdoug_ | I can over burn my cds with an extra 9 min of music |
| 02:55.07 | Jormungandr | man.. it's cold at work. |
| 02:55.13 | Jormungandr | and I am only one here. |
| 02:55.21 | bzdoug_ | woah |
| 02:55.39 | bzdoug_ | delete UT upgrades and half the cd disapears |
| 02:55.46 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 02:56.03 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:57.49 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:58.04 | bzdoug_ | my desktop folder from my 2000 install is gonna take about 2 cdroms |
| 03:00.17 | Jormungandr | dude... shield flag drops after first hit |
| 03:00.18 | Jormungandr | ;) |
| 03:00.20 | bzdoug_ | oh wow, space used on cd.... 699 megs |
| 03:00.29 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: hmm, dint get hit yet |
| 03:00.36 | bzdoug_ | hes still coming |
| 03:00.41 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 03:01.14 | Noodleman | BOOOOM! |
| 03:02.17 | Noodleman | d347h 70 bZ[}0ug! |
| 03:02.26 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 03:02.37 | bzdoug_ | I cant have more that 8 dirs deep on a cd? |
| 03:02.40 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 03:02.54 | Noodleman | it's only polite :-) |
| 03:03.49 | bzdoug_ | hmm, I thought all noodles are blind? |
| 03:05.48 | Jormungandr | I wonder when the AIM/ICQ merge will happen. |
| 03:06.03 | Jormungandr | as it is, you can log onto AIM with ICQ number |
| 03:06.13 | Jormungandr | through same server |
| 03:06.18 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: yea... |
| 03:06.50 | Jormungandr | I am looking forward to being able to using one IM client. |
| 03:06.54 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 03:06.57 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 03:07.08 | bzdoug_ | p2p im system.... that would be cool with voice and video |
| 03:07.16 | Jormungandr | as it is, I just use AIM on my sidekick unless I need to get ahold of someone on icq, then I sign out and into ICQ. |
| 03:07.23 | Jormungandr | brb |
| 03:07.26 | bzdoug_ | hmm, thats pretty cool |
| 03:08.41 | bzdoug_ | oooh, I lie these new cdburners, they dont make a coaster if the buffer runs out |
| 03:10.26 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 03:10.44 | bzdoug_ | and you have IRC now too |
| 03:10.48 | bzdoug_ | on ya sidekick |
| 03:10.58 | bzdoug_ | hmm, can you IM multipul people? |
| 03:11.02 | Jormungandr | yup... when I want to use it, it's there for me. :) |
| 03:11.16 | Jormungandr | not at the same time |
| 03:11.19 | bzdoug_ | hm |
| 03:11.20 | Jormungandr | no AIM chat |
| 03:11.24 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 03:11.35 | bzdoug_ | I meant like switch between multipule people IM |
| 03:11.36 | Jormungandr | my full buddylist is available |
| 03:11.39 | Jormungandr | yes |
| 03:11.41 | bzdoug_ | ahhh |
| 03:11.45 | bzdoug_ | thats "slick |
| 03:11.47 | Jormungandr | menu button, select conversation |
| 03:11.53 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 03:11.54 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 03:12.04 | bzdoug_ | does it play movies? |
| 03:12.12 | bzdoug_ | does it play webcasts? |
| 03:12.12 | Jormungandr | nope.. not yet |
| 03:12.13 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 03:12.15 | bzdoug_ | useless then |
| 03:12.16 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 03:12.29 | Jormungandr | I've gotten a lot of use out of it already. |
| 03:12.33 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 03:12.37 | bzdoug_ | better than a cell phone |
| 03:12.44 | Jormungandr | fone... |
| 03:12.44 | bzdoug_ | does it act as a cell phone too? |
| 03:12.54 | bzdoug_ | ahh, fone |
| 03:13.18 | bzdoug_ | like in the euro airports, with web fones all over the place |
| 03:16.42 | Jormungandr | yes... it acts like a cell phone ;) because it is. |
| 03:16.49 | bzdoug_ | hehe |
| 03:27.07 | Patalbor221 | dougs cell phone involves cups and string |
| 03:30.07 | Jormungandr | and he STILL wants a hold button |
| 03:30.38 | Patalbor221 | and web bandwith on the thing sucks |
| 03:32.14 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 03:34.40 | Patalbor221 | I coudl just see him with a pen drawin web pages on the cup |
| 03:34.49 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 03:34.52 | Patalbor221 | "ooooo slashdot looks interesting today" :) |
| 03:35.06 | Jormungandr | no vi, sharpie! |
| 03:36.20 | Jormungandr | see ya later |
| 03:36.23 | Patalbor221 | see ya |
| 03:36.41 | Patalbor221 | then make a missle model :) |
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| 05:15.35 | Jormungandr | se noai |
| 05:15.35 | Jormungandr | ahse ai |
| 05:15.39 | Jormungandr | damn |
| 05:15.47 | Jormungandr | errr. oops. |
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| 05:34.46 | Patlabor221 | sorry C3 |
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| 06:46.41 | MrApathyCream | welcome back all |
| 06:48.36 | Patlabor221 | only 3 of yo left |
| 06:51.55 | fiberchunks | h |
| 06:52.04 | fiberchunks | only here briefly |
| 06:53.23 | fiberchunks | interesting splite |
| 06:53.25 | Patlabor221 | yes very breefly |
| 06:53.35 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 06:54.31 | Patlabor221 | oh fiber, BZ:0 is more then a client |
| 06:54.48 | fiberchunks | ah - k, what description would you like it to have |
| 06:54.52 | Patlabor221 | has it's own servers too |
| 06:54.57 | Patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 06:55.03 | fiberchunks | if you compile em |
| 06:55.17 | fiberchunks | or are you releasing bzfs binaries too? |
| 06:55.22 | Patlabor221 | why not just BZ:0 developemnt |
| 06:55.26 | Patlabor221 | all of it |
| 06:55.29 | Patlabor221 | and source |
| 06:55.29 | fiberchunks | fine with me |
| 06:55.30 | Patlabor221 | have to |
| 06:55.31 | fiberchunks | one minute |
| 06:55.38 | Patlabor221 | to fit in the GPL |
| 06:56.06 | Patlabor221 | tho I may not make the bins net compatable with the source |
| 06:56.39 | fiberchunks | there you go |
| 06:56.58 | Patlabor221 | again you atain "the man" status |
| 06:57.17 | fiberchunks | also changed the topic description to 'fork' instead of client |
| 06:57.34 | fiberchunks | how's that sound |
| 06:57.36 | Patlabor221 | branch is the more common term for it |
| 06:57.42 | fiberchunks | ah, good enough |
| 06:58.45 | fiberchunks | there it is then: Post all your comments and suggestions regarding this branch of the bzflag/bzfs codebase here. |
| 06:59.26 | Patlabor221 | good enough |
| 06:59.37 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 06:59.56 | fiberchunks | and now - back to sleep -- goodnite |
| 07:00.00 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 07:02.26 | Jormungandr | yay.. got blogger router to work, so I can send images and blog entries directly to my blog. |
| 07:02.35 | Jormungandr | via email from sidekcik |
| 07:02.39 | Jormungandr | sidekick |
| 07:07.50 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 07:08.07 | Patlabor221 | I got the funky VIA CPU machine to boot :) |
| 07:09.41 | Patlabor221 | and it even seems to be installing an os |
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| 07:13.30 | Patlabor221 | sleep well llama boy |
| 07:13.37 | Jormungandr | cool.. via can be entertaining :) |
| 07:13.50 | Patlabor221 | I just hope it goes |
| 07:13.58 | Jormungandr | nod. |
| 07:14.01 | Patlabor221 | this thing was Chhhheap when we got it |
| 07:14.06 | Jormungandr | http://www.dragon.org/mandrake/blog/ :) |
| 07:14.12 | Jormungandr | how much was it? |
| 07:14.17 | Patlabor221 | found it on a roll rack at work noone was using it |
| 07:14.21 | Patlabor221 | like $200 |
| 07:14.24 | Patlabor221 | complege |
| 07:14.27 | Jormungandr | very cool. |
| 07:14.38 | Jormungandr | what OS you putting on it? |
| 07:15.07 | Patlabor221 | join me MAC, and we shall rule the universe together as well me , and some guy on the east cost :) |
| 07:15.11 | Patlabor221 | redhat |
| 07:15.17 | Jormungandr | should work fine. |
| 07:15.39 | Patlabor221 | I didn't even know that trident made an AGP chipset |
| 07:15.59 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 07:16.27 | Patlabor221 | and it MUST be speedy, it uses system ram, that's like fast stuff isn't it? :) |
| 07:17.00 | Patlabor221 | MAC and I may just crap out on the project too, that has been known to hapen |
| 07:17.56 | Jormungandr | ut oh |
| 07:18.15 | Patlabor221 | I was captan protonish before captan proton could type |
| 07:18.37 | lurgyman-zZzZzZz | captain_proton makes up for it by beeing exceptionally captain_protonly |
| 07:18.47 | Patlabor221 | yes he does |
| 07:18.59 | Patlabor221 | I have handed the torch to him |
| 07:19.07 | Patlabor221 | having the 2 jobs and all |
| 07:19.37 | Patlabor221 | so it needs disk 3 for a whoping 2 packagaes, totaling 3 megs |
| 07:19.41 | Patlabor221 | *sigh* |
| 07:20.00 | lurgyman-zZzZzZz | Patlabor221: did you have to hand it to him -before- i was his roommate? |
| 07:20.03 | lurgyman-zZzZzZz | :p |
| 07:20.18 | Patlabor221 | yes I think I did |
| 07:20.24 | Patlabor221 | the semester before |
| 07:20.38 | Patlabor221 | was more of a huck then a hand over tho |
| 07:24.12 | Patlabor221 | and I use the prefered dev enviroment, so I can work faster and merg code a lot easyer :) |
| 07:26.35 | Patlabor221 | a-tuping-mazing it installed |
| 07:26.41 | Patlabor221 | and like booted and stuff |
| 07:28.17 | Patlabor221 | now to see if Samba is sambinatin |
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| 08:02.52 | bomber | moin |
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| 08:16.04 | Dervish | hello everyone... anyone here familiar with IPFW on FreeBSD? |
| 08:20.01 | Dervish | anyone actively watching this channel? |
| 08:20.22 | Jormungandr | people are sleeping ssssh ;) |
| 08:20.36 | Jormungandr | no idea re: IPFW |
| 08:20.57 | Dervish | IPFW is the firewall/bridge software built into FreeBSD kernel |
| 08:21.01 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 08:21.10 | Jormungandr | just don't know how to configure it. |
| 08:21.12 | Jormungandr | haven't had to |
| 08:21.15 | Jormungandr | et |
| 08:21.15 | Jormungandr | yet |
| 08:21.18 | Dervish | anyways, any idea about type of packets and what is sent from servers/clients? |
| 08:21.52 | Dervish | I can configure it just fine, but had some questions for someone who might know it better than I |
| 08:21.58 | Jormungandr | UDP and TCP, generally |
| 08:22.08 | Jormungandr | you have to open up udp to and from box. |
| 08:22.14 | Dervish | is ICMP used for lagstats? |
| 08:22.22 | Jormungandr | not sure |
| 08:22.33 | Jormungandr | I know it has been said that lagstats is not always correct. |
| 08:22.41 | Jormungandr | so I would think it uses something else. |
| 08:23.00 | Dervish | yup, it's not perfect, it just gives an average route time, not high/low pings |
| 08:23.14 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 08:23.22 | Dervish | ICMP usually for ping, but not sure if the servers BZFS uses it |
| 08:23.56 | Jormungandr | my guess is not, but I'm not positive. |
| 08:24.20 | Dervish | hrmmm.. oh well. One other question if you have an answer... any idea if the server is the one sending packets to other clients, or if clients send packets directly to each other? |
| 08:24.35 | Dervish | that would be my guess too... have to check around |
| 08:25.10 | Dervish | trying to configure my firewall and IDS to accept BZFlag without killing it : |
| 08:25.12 | Jormungandr | clients send to server |
| 08:25.15 | Jormungandr | not each other |
| 08:25.21 | Dervish | cool! |
| 08:25.38 | Dervish | I almost keep typing "n" in front of my messages lol |
| 08:25.59 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 08:26.05 | Dervish | I guess it's a sign I play too much |
| 08:26.09 | Jormungandr | it's too easy to do |
| 08:26.10 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 08:26.45 | Dervish | well, thanks for your help... now I can allow only UDP packets from known servers (servers I want to play on) and nothing else :) |
| 08:26.59 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 08:27.02 | Jormungandr | good idea |
| 08:27.04 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 08:27.07 | Jormungandr | good luck. |
| 08:27.10 | Dervish | thanks, and take care... you too |
| 08:27.15 | HPP | Howdy! |
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| 11:40.30 | Secret_Hamster | Jeez that monitor is nearly a third my weight |
| 11:40.44 | Secret_Hamster | whoops wrong window |
| 11:47.46 | bomber | hi Pinguin |
| 11:51.33 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
| 12:05.20 | bomber | ~ducatictf |
| 12:18.07 | sussudio | snort. |
| 13:02.07 | Pinguin | ~ducatictf |
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| 13:20.43 | bamf | good morning |
| 13:22.21 | Pinguin | good afternoon :-) |
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| 13:27.50 | bamf | any debian ppl here? |
| 13:29.30 | sussudio | ~pig bamf |
| 13:29.31 | | bamf is 52% pig! |
| 13:29.54 | sussudio | squeeeeeeel |
| 13:29.59 | bamf | thank you |
| 13:30.27 | bamf | sus: you were on debian, picking fun at my noob question |
| 13:30.37 | bamf | insult sussudio |
| 13:30.52 | sussudio | muhaha |
| 13:30.57 | bamf | answer this |
| 13:31.30 | bamf | i've downloaded source for 1.7g0 and 1.7e6, compiled them, ran bzfs, and each time bzfs starts up as 1.7e4 |
| 13:31.31 | sussudio | you're not going to ask how to get to tty2, are you? |
| 13:31.47 | sussudio | why? |
| 13:31.55 | sussudio | you can just apt-get install bzflag-server |
| 13:31.56 | bamf | that's what i'm asking you |
| 13:32.04 | bamf | no, it pulls down e4 |
| 13:32.14 | bamf | not stable |
| 13:32.21 | sussudio | what? |
| 13:32.31 | sussudio | sid has g0 |
| 13:32.51 | bamf | do i need to demote from woody? |
| 13:33.00 | sussudio | demote? |
| 13:33.19 | bamf | bzflag.org 1.7go is listed as unstable, i was told i needed to download source and compile, which i did |
| 13:33.21 | sussudio | hmm. |
| 13:33.42 | sussudio | woody has e4, sarge has e6, sid has g0 |
| 13:33.47 | bamf | but when i run bzfs, it starts up as e4 |
| 13:33.52 | sussudio | run ./bin/bzfs |
| 13:33.53 | bamf | ok |
| 13:34.20 | bamf | i'll try now |
| 13:34.38 | sussudio | ... |
| 13:36.03 | bamf | running e6 now |
| 13:36.08 | Big_Barrel | hi bamf |
| 13:36.11 | bamf | how do i get g0 to run |
| 13:36.35 | bamf | hi bb |
| 13:38.10 | sussudio | hrmpf? |
| 13:39.00 | sussudio | better use the one in cvs...... appearently has crash fix |
| 13:43.24 | sussudio | apt-get install cvs |
| 13:43.33 | sussudio | cd /home/bamf_or_whatever |
| 13:43.36 | sussudio | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 13:43.43 | sussudio | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 13:43.48 | sussudio | cd bzflag |
| 13:43.54 | sussudio | ./configure |
| 13:43.55 | sussudio | make |
| 13:43.57 | sussudio | make install |
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| 13:58.08 | sussudio | ~slick |
| 13:58.09 | | Shut up, Doug. |
| 13:58.54 | bzdoug_ | ~sussudiooo |
| 13:58.55 | | the cow that went oink |
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| 14:51.20 | bzdoug_ | 'lo MrApathyCream |
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| 16:52.02 | hardwire | patty patty two by labor |
| 16:52.30 | Patlabor221 | 221 is a unit designation |
| 16:52.44 | hardwire | oh.. and where is your giant mecha mojo bot! |
| 16:52.58 | captain_proton | =( |
| 16:53.01 | Patlabor221 | ohh not that giant, just about 35 feet |
| 16:53.04 | Patlabor221 | it's parked |
| 16:53.09 | hardwire | where! |
| 16:53.21 | Patlabor221 | in the parking lot, duhh. |
| 16:53.31 | hardwire | and I suppose you rank with the PD! |
| 16:53.59 | Patlabor221 | meantance crew |
| 16:54.03 | hardwire | heh |
| 16:54.16 | hardwire | are you mean! |
| 16:54.20 | hardwire | grr! |
| 16:54.24 | hardwire | mean mean grr grr! |
| 16:59.35 | Patlabor221 | realy? |
| 16:59.38 | Patlabor221 | it's a good show |
| 16:59.50 | Patlabor221 | I can proa,by divx up some |
| 17:00.15 | sussudio | CapN is a moron |
| 17:00.40 | Chestal | uh? |
| 17:00.46 | sussudio | he tk'ed me 3 times on ducati |
| 17:01.13 | Chestal | some players have to be sacrificed for the greater good |
| 17:01.21 | sussudio | bah |
| 17:01.24 | hardwire | Patlabor221: that would be neat |
| 17:01.57 | jzaun | anyone here code in GTK+? |
| 17:02.53 | captain_proton | jzaun: sometimes |
| 17:03.18 | jzaun | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.17 | captain_proton | "Why the hell would I first be so stupid as to use my own IP to attack servers, and second, why would I attack the very thing I've been trying to help protect?" <-- because you're not as smart as you think you are? |
| 17:05.28 | captain_proton | jzaun: not that i know of... |
| 17:05.58 | jzaun | captain_proton: nice quote, who said it :-D |
| 17:06.12 | jzaun | captain_proton: hrmf, I'm calling it but its not clearing my list |
| 17:06.54 | captain_proton | jzaun: i'll give you three guesses, first two don't count |
| 17:07.06 | jzaun | and I know the treemodel is right, cause I cand add to the list and that works... |
| 17:07.07 | sussudio | ~pig dervish |
| 17:07.12 | | dervish is 71% pig! |
| 17:07.29 | jzaun | captain_proton: spoonge? |
| 17:07.32 | hardwire | ~pig hardwire |
| 17:07.33 | | hardwire is 45% pig! |
| 17:07.38 | hardwire | how did I go up! |
| 17:07.43 | jzaun | ~pig jzaun |
| 17:07.45 | | jzaun is 36% pig! |
| 17:07.54 | Patlabor221 | he has cable too, that explains the 2 routs |
| 17:07.58 | jzaun | how am I a pig at all? |
| 17:07.58 | sussudio | you ate sticks of butter |
| 17:08.03 | hardwire | heh |
| 17:08.09 | hardwire | you can see that eh.. |
| 17:08.17 | Patlabor221 | ~pig linux |
| 17:08.19 | | linux is 60% pig! |
| 17:08.26 | Patlabor221 | 60 even? |
| 17:08.26 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 17:08.27 | jzaun | ~pig windows |
| 17:08.29 | | windows is 83% pig! |
| 17:08.33 | Patlabor221 | it's geting better |
| 17:08.37 | jzaun | heh more than linux :-) |
| 17:08.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's a windows piggy day |
| 17:08.52 | Patlabor221 | but pigness fluxuates |
| 17:08.54 | Patlabor221 | ~pig windows |
| 17:08.56 | | windows is 27% pig! |
| 17:09.04 | Patlabor221 | see it likes me |
| 17:10.18 | hardwire | awww. |
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| 17:25.45 | captain_proton | yay for arvo part |
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| 17:33.02 | Secret_Hamster | wow I had a message from Tim Riker |
| 17:33.16 | Secret_Hamster | PS guy sI am now Linuxed |
| 17:33.21 | Secret_Hamster | hurrah for me |
| 17:33.58 | Chestal | are you using one of the few true distributions? |
| 17:35.38 | Secret_Hamster | true? |
| 17:36.35 | Patlabor221 | funny thing I find about linux is, that if you get 20 linux users in a room, every disto will be claimed to be crap by at least 5 of them :) |
| 17:36.49 | Secret_Hamster | lol |
| 17:37.14 | Patlabor221 | but I think he's refering to some of the "bastardized" distors |
| 17:37.18 | Patlabor221 | what di you install. |
| 17:37.19 | Secret_Hamster | well better than 20 windows users who constantly have to bitch about their only option |
| 17:37.31 | Patlabor221 | I don't know if it's better |
| 17:37.35 | Patlabor221 | at least we all know it's crap |
| 17:37.37 | Secret_Hamster | I've got RH7.2 going just now to give me a base |
| 17:37.57 | Secret_Hamster | I'm gonna put on Slackware and Gentoo as the main distros |
| 17:37.59 | Patlabor221 | i'll be that is what he things is not a true one |
| 17:38.01 | sussudio | haha roothat |
| 17:38.13 | Patlabor221 | cap, you just have funn with your secondary development platform :) |
| 17:38.20 | Patlabor221 | see, there go the redhat jokes |
| 17:38.34 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: oh i will |
| 17:38.38 | sussudio | red-rat |
| 17:38.42 | Patlabor221 | seems unless you build it from source and complike your kenel everyday sommone is gonna have smething to say |
| 17:38.46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: but YOU can't run in real 3d ;) |
| 17:39.01 | Patlabor221 | cap, this is true |
| 17:39.19 | Patlabor221 | I'm trying to have them get some sort of vis stuff here |
| 17:39.25 | Secret_Hamster | Anyway off to check I've still got the lastest version of Gentoo. I heard 1.4 was on the cards |
| 17:39.27 | captain_proton | scanline said i need to take a new photo of the viz-screen from further away to give a sense of scale |
| 17:39.36 | captain_proton | because the photo i took doesn't really do it justice |
| 17:39.39 | Patlabor221 | tho, with what I have here, I can make damn near anything you can vis on that thing. |
| 17:39.49 | Patlabor221 | as long as it's manafold |
| 17:40.08 | Patlabor221 | it's what about 6 foot cubed? |
| 17:40.13 | captain_proton | 75" diagonal |
| 17:40.20 | Patlabor221 | that's big |
| 17:40.27 | captain_proton | yeup :) |
| 17:40.29 | Patlabor221 | hook up your genisis to it |
| 17:40.33 | captain_proton | haah |
| 17:40.40 | captain_proton | genesis doesn't do stereo |
| 17:40.43 | captain_proton | or component video |
| 17:40.51 | Patlabor221 | get it projected on a plane |
| 17:40.58 | Patlabor221 | just floating there |
| 17:41.05 | Patlabor221 | jetsons style |
| 17:41.30 | captain_proton | i told scanline he needs to hack the js UI a bit so that the different UI panels are at different depths |
| 17:41.42 | captain_proton | and you'd only be able to tell when using the vis |
| 17:41.43 | Patlabor221 | that would bee kewl |
| 17:41.51 | Patlabor221 | or shutter glasses |
| 17:42.05 | Patlabor221 | and those are cheap now |
| 17:42.05 | captain_proton | true |
| 17:42.15 | Patlabor221 | like realy cheap |
| 17:42.18 | captain_proton | shutter glasses are a bit of a hack though |
| 17:42.26 | Patlabor221 | that they are |
| 17:42.41 | Patlabor221 | but I was suprized how well they worked for $30 |
| 17:42.42 | captain_proton | ought to require application support through a gl extension or something |
| 17:43.00 | captain_proton | rather than just modifying the view matrix |
| 17:43.01 | Patlabor221 | the ones I have work with the gl driver |
| 17:43.13 | Patlabor221 | it's the nvidia standard sterio implementation |
| 17:43.40 | Patlabor221 | I didn't install any software from the glasses mfg, just nvida refrence stuff |
| 17:43.56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thats not what i mean |
| 17:43.59 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 17:44.02 | captain_proton | support should be in the application, not in the driver |
| 17:44.04 | Patlabor221 | you want the app to spec the stuff |
| 17:44.38 | Patlabor221 | I think that it should be both, let the app work with the driver via an exentsion, but if the app dosn't call the extension just use some default stuff |
| 17:44.49 | Patlabor221 | that way if you support it then it looks best |
| 17:44.54 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 17:45.11 | Patlabor221 | they may have exposed the driver stuff to an extension,I don't know |
| 17:45.27 | captain_proton | not that i've seen |
| 17:45.29 | Secret_Hamster | well I'm off to install slackware now |
| 17:45.37 | Secret_Hamster | cya sometime |
| 17:46.10 | Patlabor221 | of indeterminate speed |
| 17:47.01 | Patlabor221 | with an *ick* trident 'cyberblade" card |
| 17:47.12 | Patlabor221 | or I shoudl say chipset |
| 17:47.15 | captain_proton | this is funny |
| 17:47.24 | captain_proton | i picked up an old indy from the parts pile |
| 17:47.28 | captain_proton | and its got S-video |
| 17:47.41 | captain_proton | and a shutter glasses port |
| 17:47.55 | Patlabor221 | hope the are well labled |
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| 18:06.49 | Chestal | hmm, what did this crash client do exactly? |
| 18:07.00 | Chestal | use bogus shot ids? |
| 18:08.35 | sussudio | a link to a non-existant teleporter will crash a client...... |
| 18:10.25 | Chestal | link in world? |
| 18:10.59 | sussudio | yup |
| 18:11.46 | stibnite | hey sussudio, you stopped by #bzflag@hashmark the other day.. what did i miss? |
| 18:13.02 | sussudio | nothing...... bzflag.hashmark.net seems unmoderated, cheaters linger quite a lot. |
| 18:13.27 | sussudio | same with longdong's fight club |
| 18:13.34 | stibnite | hrm.. it's as actively moderated as we can manage. but you're right. mid-morning is perhaps the most unmoderated time. |
| 18:13.45 | stibnite | but i do my best to stay on top of the cheaters. :) |
| 18:13.48 | sussudio | when's that? |
| 18:13.59 | stibnite | right now, actually. |
| 18:14.06 | sussudio | it's 7.15pm |
| 18:14.14 | stibnite | well, mid-morning at the server. |
| 18:14.22 | stibnite | sorry to be so timezone-centric. :) |
| 18:14.30 | stibnite | it's in Texas, USA. |
| 18:14.30 | sussudio | i see most cheaters between 7-10am my time...... |
| 18:14.50 | stibnite | what is your timezone? |
| 18:14.52 | sussudio | that's like midnight-3am texastime i guess |
| 18:14.56 | sussudio | CET |
| 18:14.57 | stibnite | ahh. |
| 18:15.13 | stibnite | after my bedtime. :\ |
| 18:15.27 | stibnite | we're still solidifying the admin crew |
| 18:15.41 | sussudio | try gelatine |
| 18:16.02 | stibnite | who's that? |
| 18:16.14 | sussudio | the main ingredient of jello |
| 18:16.23 | stibnite | rofl |
| 18:16.34 | stibnite | isn't that animal-derived though? |
| 18:16.39 | sussudio | yup.... ground-up bones |
| 18:16.43 | stibnite | nice! |
| 18:16.55 | stibnite | seems oddly appropriate for a bzflag server. :) |
| 18:18.33 | Chestal | I don't quite understand that thread |
| 18:19.20 | Chestal | someone was using the cheat which killed clients on a server where fiberchunk is admin? and fiberchunk got Dervish's IP when he did /playerlist (or something similar liek checking bzfs output)? |
| 18:19.32 | sussudio | basically, yeah. |
| 18:19.42 | sussudio | now dervish claims his connection was hijaaked..... |
| 18:19.53 | sussudio | which is bull, really. |
| 18:19.54 | Chestal | whatever that is supposed to mean |
| 18:20.09 | Chestal | IP spoofing can be ruled out, it simply is not possible nowadays |
| 18:20.11 | Chestal | not for TCP |
| 18:20.14 | sussudio | he got caught with his pants down and now he's trying to get out of it. |
| 18:20.42 | Chestal | someone could have hacked his box of course, still seems not that probable |
| 18:20.44 | stibnite | i wonder why somebody as good as dervish would be tempted to cheat? |
| 18:20.59 | sussudio | good? have you ever played against him? |
| 18:21.03 | stibnite | well, |
| 18:21.04 | Chestal | well, this is not exactly cheating, but just annoying others |
| 18:21.20 | Chestal | obviously, several people have been doing the same thing |
| 18:21.22 | jzaun | whats he doin... I missed that part |
| 18:21.28 | stibnite | i've heard from others. But myself, i'm terrible. So it's a poor estimation of another's skill. ;P |
| 18:21.31 | sussudio | crashing clients. |
| 18:21.37 | stibnite | truly horrible |
| 18:21.41 | stibnite | i mean BAD |
| 18:21.48 | Chestal | jzaun: a client mod which crashes other clients has been used lately from different IPs |
| 18:21.55 | Chestal | looks like a coupel peopel are using it |
| 18:21.56 | jzaun | how can he crash another client? |
| 18:22.14 | sussudio | by using some kind of malformed packet |
| 18:22.22 | Chestal | jzaun: the client doesn't do sanity checks for all input it receives |
| 18:22.42 | Chestal | when I messed a bit with bzflag two years ago, I tried toicnrease shot count for my client |
| 18:22.44 | jzaun | Chestal: can the server filter out the bad packets? |
| 18:22.49 | Chestal | which would crash all other players when I shot accidentally |
| 18:23.13 | Chestal | jzaun: I am not sure which technique this crash client is using, but probably, yes, it could filter. Not sure if it has already been fixed |
| 18:23.16 | Chestal | didn't follow that topic |
| 18:24.28 | Chestal | hmm, peopel started to abuse -ttkr option |
| 18:25.33 | jzaun | how? |
| 18:26.10 | Chestal | try to get hit by your tammates until they get kicked for team-killing |
| 18:26.28 | jzaun | sheesh.... thats just wrong |
| 18:26.48 | jzaun | whatever happened to "enjoying the game" |
| 18:27.28 | Chestal | I just read about it, did not experience it |
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| 19:30.12 | chsh[] | lol |
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| 19:34.48 | hardwire | my jokes just get worse and worse |
| 19:34.51 | hardwire | damn |
| 19:35.08 | scanline | Ahhhh! |
| 19:35.38 | hardwire | bah.. /me is tempted to play with freevos setup |
| 19:36.26 | Patlabor221 | freevos? are those like opensource cherrios? |
| 19:36.32 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:36.37 | hardwire | freevo.sf.net |
| 19:36.38 | Patlabor221 | frevos: the GNU breakfast |
| 19:36.50 | hardwire | basically I don't wanna program what I would concider a usefull free tivo system |
| 19:37.28 | Patlabor221 | ahhhhh |
| 19:37.51 | Patlabor221 | they are suposed to be working on something like that for the x-box runing linux |
| 19:38.01 | hardwire | yeah :) |
| 19:38.09 | hardwire | hard to capture video w/o pci ports.. I would imagine |
| 19:38.17 | Patlabor221 | USB |
| 19:38.22 | hardwire | you could use the usb mpeg2 encoders from hauppage |
| 19:38.40 | Patlabor221 | tho they say they want to use the ethernet port for some reason |
| 19:38.55 | sussudio | hardwire: i dont think tivo's actually capture as such, they just get a data feed |
| 19:39.26 | Patlabor221 | well they work with anlog signals |
| 19:39.38 | Patlabor221 | so some of them have to dig |
| 19:39.55 | Patlabor221 | tho like the ones that are built into sat boxes I could see them not needing too |
| 19:41.25 | hardwire | sussudio: they reencode video.. from analog streams |
| 19:41.40 | hardwire | the sat ones might transcode |
| 19:41.45 | rae | me is tired of there being no TiVo/Replay-like PVR soution for cable users in Canada.. :-P |
| 19:41.56 | rae | heh |
| 19:41.58 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:42.26 | Patlabor221 | cable ones would have to do analog, at least for the non digital cables |
| 19:42.30 | Patlabor221 | channels I mean |
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| 19:43.15 | hardwire | Patlabor221: even with digital cable.. how would you like to decode it? |
| 19:43.59 | Patlabor221 | that I don't know, I don't know how it workd |
| 19:44.10 | Patlabor221 | I agree with you, I think they anlogize |
| 19:44.20 | hardwire | I said nothing of the sort :) |
| 19:44.40 | Patlabor221 | then I guess I don't know what reencode means in this case |
| 19:44.47 | jzaun | anyone on linux wanna try a little app I'm workin on? (Startrek fans prefered) |
| 19:45.08 | rae | Ya, the quality would suffer, but the features would all be there. |
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| 19:46.33 | Chestal | hi jolly |
| 19:47.48 | jolly | hey Ches |
| 19:48.40 | jolly | how are ya? |
| 19:51.35 | Chestal | tired right now |
| 19:51.37 | Chestal | now sure why |
| 19:51.47 | Chestal | also got a slight headache |
| 19:52.11 | jolly | ah :( |
| 19:52.23 | Chestal | but overall, quite fine, thanks. Yourself? |
| 19:52.38 | jolly | pretty good |
| 19:53.07 | jolly | its so quiet |
| 19:53.27 | Chestal | indeed |
| 19:53.45 | Chestal | gonna love that tranquility |
| 19:53.58 | jolly | :) |
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| 19:55.14 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 19:55.27 | Chestal | heh Tim |
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| 20:02.54 | chsh[] | rae> I'm tired of that crap too |
| 20:05.40 | TimRiker | rae: did you use -kb on the icons file? |
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| 20:06.29 | clith | let me check.. |
| 20:06.46 | freelancer | proton around |
| 20:07.08 | TimRiker | + case 'Å': |
| 20:07.09 | TimRiker | +msg[i] = 'A'; |
| 20:07.09 | TimRiker | +i++; |
| 20:07.09 | TimRiker | +msg.insert(i, 1, 'a'); |
| 20:07.09 | TimRiker | + break; |
| 20:07.23 | TimRiker | won't that map to "Aa" then? |
| 20:07.59 | TimRiker | is that really what is wanted for danish? |
| 20:08.32 | clith | ooh, I've been switched to my alternate nick.. |
| 20:08.38 | rae | that's better.. |
| 20:10.58 | TimRiker | hmm... no MAC. wouldn't it make sense for the server to always run in english and have the client map msgs from the server using the local locale? |
| 20:12.42 | rae | Uh.. ya, now I did (use the -kb flag) ;-) |
| 20:13.19 | TimRiker | Would be nice if some kind sole added them. <- heh, sole != soul. ;-) |
| 20:13.29 | rae | Might be best to delay translation until it is needed. What if everyone on the server is speaking Russian? |
| 20:23.13 | TimRiker | this is only for msgs that originate on the server. |
| 20:23.32 | TimRiker | ie "wrong password" etc. |
| 20:24.32 | sussudio | has anyone noticed g1 clients behaving oddly? |
| 20:25.25 | sussudio | (from the other player's point of view) |
| 20:26.58 | sussudio | they're skipping as if they're heavily lagged, like you also see with e4 clients |
| 20:27.11 | sussudio | both in view and on radar |
| 20:27.25 | TimRiker | nope, not seen that. join me on one to test? |
| 20:27.50 | sussudio | try ducati |
| 20:27.55 | TimRiker | ok |
| 20:27.56 | sussudio | [meq] freelancer there |
| 20:28.09 | sussudio | i'm not going back there now |
| 20:28.20 | TimRiker | stinking laggy SF CVS server... |
| 20:28.30 | sussudio | ? |
| 20:28.38 | TimRiker | just grumbling... |
| 20:28.52 | sussudio | try getting cvs from libgphoto2 |
| 20:29.00 | sussudio | bzflag is blazingly fast compared to that |
| 20:29.18 | rae | Ya, I wish there was a way to at least keep a local copy of CVS history around to speed history queries up.. |
| 20:30.19 | TimRiker | you can grab the daily cvs tarball and install it locally. need to set a different CVSROOT for checkins though. |
| 20:33.03 | Jormungandr | hrm. |
| 20:33.22 | Jormungandr | I am using 1.7g0 client and got kicked frm my own server for moving too fast. |
| 20:35.47 | Jormungandr | grrr |
| 20:35.58 | Jormungandr | now I am using client from same cvs and get same thing. |
| 20:38.55 | Jormungandr | you're right tim, cvs is slow. |
| 20:39.32 | Jormungandr | then again, I'm updating on 2 machines at once. |
| 20:39.34 | sussudio | crawling versioning system |
| 20:39.39 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 20:41.33 | Jormungandr | did dist get bigger or cvs get slower? |
| 20:45.25 | Jormungandr | grrrr |
| 20:45.43 | Jormungandr | server compiled, but bzflag errors out |
| 20:46.42 | Jormungandr | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `../../lib/libPlatform.a', needed by `../../bin/bzflag'. Stop. |
| 20:46.57 | Jormungandr | and it was ALMOST done. |
| 20:48.17 | Jormungandr | at least the update doesn't get me kicked off the server. |
| 20:49.11 | Jormungandr | that error was in bzflag directory |
| 20:49.22 | Jormungandr | right after menus.cxx |
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| 20:50.38 | Cell | la |
| 20:51.28 | Jormungandr | this is with any of the linux versions, and compiles from cvs |
| 20:51.32 | Jormungandr | erps |
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| 20:56.53 | TimRiker | normally that means that earlier a file in platform failed to compile. |
| 20:58.00 | sussudio | Jormungandr: try running ./configure again or make clean |
| 20:58.11 | Jormungandr | will do. I'll do a make pristine. |
| 20:59.12 | Jormungandr | piping output to a file on this compile to see what's going on. |
| 20:59.33 | Jormungandr | also compiling new hybrid-7 ircd *yay!* |
| 20:59.52 | TimRiker | sussudio: no ./configure on bz |
| 21:00.09 | Jormungandr | make linux then make ;) |
| 21:00.46 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 21:00.53 | Jormungandr | didn't know about that one. :) |
| 21:01.17 | Jormungandr | dianora can code some ircd. |
| 21:01.22 | Jormungandr | not a single warning in compile. |
| 21:01.24 | Jormungandr | with -Wall |
| 21:04.59 | rae | Interesting warning on this line: if (messages.size()-offset >= 0) |
| 21:05.16 | rae | line 355 of ControlPanel.cxx |
| 21:05.42 | rae | I suspect that the type of "messages.size()-offset" is unsigned; this means it is *always* >= 0 |
| 21:06.11 | rae | A cast may be required: if (static_cast<int>(messages.size())-offset >= 0) |
| 21:09.44 | rae | Btw, is there a reason to use "#include <iostream.h>" instead of "#include <iostream>"? |
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| 21:10.52 | rae | I'm trying to compiler with gcc3 btw. Just experimenting. |
| 21:12.32 | Jormungandr | error is in BzfEvent.h |
| 21:12.40 | Jormungandr | In file included from XDisplay.cxx:15: |
| 21:12.41 | Jormungandr | ../../include/BzfEvent.h:78: parse error before numeric constant |
| 21:12.41 | Jormungandr | ../../include/BzfEvent.h:84: missing ';' before right brace |
| 21:12.41 | Jormungandr | ../../include/BzfEvent.h:94: parse error before `}' token |
| 21:12.57 | Cell | my image has a resolution of 257x257 pixels and a size in bytes of 198458, what is the bits per pixel, plz? |
| 21:13.27 | sussudio | ~kill cell |
| 21:13.34 | rae | Hm, line 78 is the first of the enums I added for extra mouse button support |
| 21:14.01 | rae | looks okay though. |
| 21:14.49 | Jormungandr | *shrug* I get error 1 and dead compile in XDisplay.cxx |
| 21:14.57 | stibnite | has anybody worked on using a DNS-based blacklist (like spamcop) as an additional means of handling bans? |
| 21:15.10 | rae | Maybe X has a #define for Button4? |
| 21:15.26 | Jormungandr | XDisplay.cxx:219: `class BzfKeyEvent' has no member named `ascii' |
| 21:15.26 | Jormungandr | XDisplay.cxx:220: `class BzfKeyEvent' has no member named `shift' |
| 21:15.26 | Jormungandr | XDisplay.cxx:222: `class BzfKeyEvent' has no member named `button' |
| 21:15.27 | rae | It could be renamed to something else if so.. |
| 21:15.33 | Jormungandr | MANY lines like that |
| 21:15.38 | rae | Ya, sounds like a #define somewhere. |
| 21:16.34 | rae | here we go: X11/X.h:#define Button4 4 |
| 21:16.48 | rae | I'll rename them for you -- it shouldn't be too hard. |
| 21:16.51 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 21:16.53 | Jormungandr | thanks |
| 21:17.00 | rae | it'll take about 10 minutes.. |
| 21:17.13 | Cell | ms paint shows the following attributes of my image i saved as 24bit .bmp:257x257 pixels and a size in bytes of 198458, this seeems to be wrong, plz help? |
| 21:17.37 | Jormungandr | cell, I don't have a clue. |
| 21:18.43 | bzdoug_ | ... |
| 21:18.55 | jzaun | err, Cell, don't use MSPaint :-) |
| 21:20.02 | bzdoug_ | photoshop, gimp, paper/pencil etc, all run on windows |
| 21:20.19 | Cell | ~257*257*3 |
| 21:20.20 | | 198147 |
| 21:20.25 | Cell | see |
| 21:20.34 | Cell | not 198458 |
| 21:20.39 | bzdoug_ | well |
| 21:20.42 | bzdoug_ | header or something |
| 21:20.54 | Cell | ah, possible |
| 21:20.54 | bzdoug_ | yea, it has a header I am sure |
| 21:21.07 | Cell | yes thats it |
| 21:21.12 | Cell | thanks |
| 21:21.23 | bzdoug_ | :) |
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| 21:22.40 | rae | Jormungandr: changes made.. test compiling now.. |
| 21:23.29 | Jormungandr | thank you. |
| 21:24.20 | rae | I changed Button4, 5, 6, 7, 8 9 to BZ_Mouse_Button_4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9; should be unique enough to avoid problems :-) |
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| 21:24.31 | bzdoug_ | 'lo paul |
| 21:24.32 | ak|ra | hi all |
| 21:24.34 | bzdoug_ | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 21:24.37 | bzdoug_ | 'lo ak|ra |
| 21:24.38 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 21:24.41 | paul | hiya dougy :) |
| 21:24.49 | jzaun | hi Patlabor221 |
| 21:26.34 | Jormungandr | rae, X can be a little piggy and exclusive about includes :) |
| 21:29.41 | bzdoug_ | is there anyway for me to index all my backup cds? |
| 21:29.59 | bzdoug_ | so If I need a file I can search my index and find out what cd its on? |
| 21:30.37 | rae | Jormungandr: Ah, X Windows you mean, not MacOS X :-) :-) |
| 21:30.53 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 21:30.57 | Patlabor221 | doug, most backup software should do that for you |
| 21:31.11 | Jormungandr | rae, let me know when I can update my cvs |
| 21:31.20 | bzdoug_ | hmm, backup software? :) |
| 21:31.25 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:31.30 | rae | Fortunately I have X11 installed (Apple did an accellerated version of XFree86) so it's pretty quick to do a "find | xargs grep" kind of thing |
| 21:31.31 | bzdoug_ | I just copyed all my files to cds |
| 21:31.37 | rae | Jormungandr: will do |
| 21:31.40 | bzdoug_ | no silly backup software for me |
| 21:31.41 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 21:31.51 | Patlabor221 | then no usefull index for you, silly boy |
| 21:32.18 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 21:32.27 | bzdoug_ | the windows backup program wont let me backup to cdrom |
| 21:32.38 | bzdoug_ | and I want to get access to my files |
| 21:32.44 | bzdoug_ | not restore it |
| 21:32.46 | *** part/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@pD9E47FCA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:33.11 | Patlabor221 | not all backups are compressed |
| 21:34.16 | paul | Chestal: you working on auth stuff for bzflag? |
| 21:34.35 | paul | ah no... douggy disconnected. |
| 21:35.07 | Chestal | paul: not really |
| 21:35.08 | Patlabor221 | ohh the pitty |
| 21:35.18 | Chestal | paul: we have been thinking aboutit and discussing it, quiet about it lately, though |
| 21:35.30 | Chestal | paul:I guess we strengthen efforts after the next release |
| 21:35.56 | paul | Chestal: what were you thinking of? |
| 21:36.29 | rae | TimRiker: r.e. grabbing CVS tarballs -- would it be feasible to use a local CVS and then use CVSup to sync changes? http://www.cvsup.org/ |
| 21:36.35 | Chestal | paul: sorry, I'm too tired and hungry to discuss it now.Basically as a first step we will allow (force) players toregister |
| 21:36.46 | rae | I've never used CVSup, but I've heard very good things about it.. |
| 21:37.22 | paul | Chestal: np |
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| 21:38.09 | bzdoug_ | BSOD |
| 21:38.13 | bzdoug_ | joy |
| 21:38.59 | Jormungandr | off to get some lunch. back later. |
| 21:39.03 | bzdoug_ | k |
| 21:39.04 | bzdoug_ | cya |
| 21:39.05 | bzdoug_ | bye |
| 21:45.47 | rae | Jormungandr: (for whenever you get back) changes are checked in |
| 21:47.02 | sussudio | antisocial assholes like CapN need to be banned from ducati |
| 21:47.35 | bzdoug_ | oh? |
| 21:47.37 | bzdoug_ | what for? |
| 21:47.52 | sussudio | for lagging and not getting the hell out of there when he does |
| 21:48.09 | sussudio | having 390ms when everyone else is having < 140 means you have to go |
| 21:48.19 | bzdoug_ | not really |
| 21:48.25 | sussudio | yes |
| 21:49.18 | sussudio | if i ever meet him he's getting a fist-sandwich |
| 21:49.42 | bzdoug_ | then dont meet him |
| 21:49.49 | Cell | i have a little funny task for you if you like: get the image and render it with opengl. No! Dont put the image into a texture!! Instead use the rgb coponents at each pixel as xyz vertex coordinate! Use GL_QUADS to render each 2x2 pixel area! Who can tell me what 3d modell is safed on the image wins! :) |
| 21:49.57 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.02 | Cell | here is the image |
| 21:50.45 | bzdoug_ | do I have to do it? |
| 21:50.46 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 21:51.02 | Cell | try if you can |
| 21:51.14 | bzdoug_ | I dont know opengl |
| 21:51.19 | Cell | oh |
| 21:51.20 | bzdoug_ | new C++ for that matter |
| 21:51.20 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 21:51.24 | bzdoug_ | :B |
| 21:52.52 | bzdoug_ | I just deleted over 200 folders on my drive, and I have 5 gigs free |
| 21:52.57 | Cell | hint: you can render the image at lowe resolution too, instead of 2x2 pixels for a quad you could make a bigger quad with corners at every 8x8 pixel area |
| 21:53.15 | bzdoug_ | Cell: are you gonna do it? |
| 21:53.26 | Cell | then you get outomatip progressive refinement |
| 21:53.36 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 21:53.37 | Cell | i did it laready |
| 21:53.40 | bzdoug_ | oh? |
| 21:53.45 | bzdoug_ | whats it look like? |
| 21:53.46 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 21:53.51 | Cell | :) |
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| 21:54.56 | bzdoug_ | YO scan[ibook]!!!! |
| 21:55.11 | Patlabor221 | looks like a color cube |
| 21:55.13 | scan[ibook] | hi... |
| 21:55.36 | bzdoug_ | scanline: stop looking at the computer and get back to work. |
| 21:55.40 | bzdoug_ | scan[ibook]: :B |
| 21:55.48 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: could I see? |
| 21:55.56 | scan[ibook] | ? |
| 21:55.59 | scan[ibook] | ~sud |
| 21:56.00 | | shut up doug |
| 21:56.06 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 21:56.12 | bzdoug_ | 8-B |
| 21:56.39 | Patlabor221 | he showed the link to the image |
| 21:56.48 | Cell | your rendering could be as follows: |
| 21:56.49 | Cell | glBegin(GL_QUADS); |
| 21:56.50 | Cell | Color c; |
| 21:56.50 | Cell | for(int j = 0; j < 256; j++) |
| 21:56.50 | Cell | for(int i = 0; i < 256; i++) |
| 21:56.50 | Cell | { |
| 21:56.51 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.53 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.55 | bzdoug_ | thats the file |
| 21:56.55 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.57 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.59 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.01 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.01 | scan[ibook] | Cell: that's disgusting |
| 21:57.02 | bzdoug_ | I want to see the finished thingy |
| 21:57.04 | Patlabor221 | ohh I see |
| 21:57.04 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.05 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.05 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 21:57.07 | Cell | } |
| 21:57.09 | Cell | glEnd(); |
| 21:57.09 | scan[ibook] | Cell: remove that before I puke |
| 21:57.10 | Patlabor221 | cell just post the image |
| 21:57.24 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.28 | Cell | its there |
| 21:57.32 | Patlabor221 | the final |
| 21:57.37 | Cell | 8bit per color |
| 21:57.51 | Cell | oh i want you to try |
| 21:57.52 | sussudio | Cell: you know nobody really cares, right? |
| 21:58.13 | Cell | its fun and a big theory behind it |
| 21:58.14 | bzdoug_ | I think I deleted it |
| 21:58.16 | *** join/#bzflag sn0w_m0nkey (~sn0w_m0nk@photon.unm.edu) |
| 21:58.22 | bzdoug_ | 'lo sn0w_m0nkey |
| 21:58.24 | sn0w_m0nkey | mornin all |
| 21:58.27 | sn0w_m0nkey | hi doug |
| 21:58.29 | bzdoug_ | yup |
| 21:58.31 | bzdoug_ | its gone |
| 21:59.30 | Cell | oh use : glTranslatef(0,0,-700); to see it |
| 21:59.37 | sussudio | bah dervish is such a big crybaby |
| 22:00.03 | sussudio | Dervish: you got caught using a client that purposely crashes clients..... admit it alright |
| 22:00.09 | sn0w_m0nkey | heh |
| 22:00.21 | bzdoug_ | how do you know? |
| 22:00.30 | sussudio | IS WAS HIS IP |
| 22:00.36 | sn0w_m0nkey | is that whats been crashing my client on turkey? |
| 22:00.38 | *** join/#bzflag jneves (~Really@a213-22-85-3.netcabo.pt) |
| 22:00.55 | Patlabor221 | proalby |
| 22:00.55 | sussudio | and that crap about him 'trying to protect the game'.... all i have ever seen him do is play admin-nazi on turkey for his own enjoyment |
| 22:01.13 | *** part/#bzflag jneves (~Really@a213-22-85-3.netcabo.pt) |
| 22:01.19 | bzdoug_ | hmm, interesting.. my desktop folder isnt missing... |
| 22:01.20 | sn0w_m0nkey | it freezes up my xserver also when it freezes my client |
| 22:01.21 | bzdoug_ | odd |
| 22:01.41 | bzdoug_ | sn0w_m0nkey: its a bug |
| 22:01.42 | sussudio | sn0w_m0nkey: no, this one makes the client exit/crash |
| 22:01.43 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 22:02.07 | sn0w_m0nkey | i have been getting this crash bug only on turkey.moongroup |
| 22:02.11 | sn0w_m0nkey | nowhere else |
| 22:02.37 | sussudio | does it crash on connect, after establishing connection or during the game |
| 22:02.43 | Patlabor221 | hooray for peer |
| 22:02.48 | Cell | the cool thing if you sample the image at lower res you get a optimized low res version of the mesh |
| 22:03.06 | sn0w_m0nkey | i get total frozen client while playing.. |
| 22:03.18 | sn0w_m0nkey | have to kill entire xserver to get it going again |
| 22:03.20 | Patlabor221 | and X dies too? |
| 22:03.23 | sn0w_m0nkey | yes |
| 22:03.25 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 22:03.33 | sussudio | after playing for a while or what? |
| 22:03.36 | sn0w_m0nkey | it locks up keyboard |
| 22:03.40 | sn0w_m0nkey | yes after playing |
| 22:03.43 | sussudio | yeah i get that too. |
| 22:03.45 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 22:03.49 | sussudio | but it keeps on going..... |
| 22:03.51 | sn0w_m0nkey | usually after i get a nasty message too :) |
| 22:03.57 | sussudio | it's just that i cant use the keyboard anymore |
| 22:04.23 | sn0w_m0nkey | nasty messages i am use too....crashes not so much |
| 22:06.39 | sn0w_m0nkey | so is there a rash of cheats out in bzflag again? |
| 22:06.53 | sn0w_m0nkey | i keep seeing this speed cheat lately |
| 22:07.02 | bzdoug_ | cuz its a cheap cheat |
| 22:07.12 | bzdoug_ | a monkey (or sussudio) could do it in 5 min |
| 22:07.16 | sn0w_m0nkey | heh |
| 22:07.32 | sn0w_m0nkey | i am too honest a person...i just play normal tank game |
| 22:07.44 | Cell | ok here its the result: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/result.jpg |
| 22:08.04 | sussudio | doug couldnt do it |
| 22:08.13 | bzdoug_ | sn0w_m0nkey: :P |
| 22:08.18 | sn0w_m0nkey | hehe |
| 22:08.19 | Cell | its a bunny |
| 22:08.21 | bzdoug_ | sussudio: I wouldnt do it |
| 22:08.30 | bzdoug_ | Cell: coool |
| 22:08.33 | sussudio | couldn't. |
| 22:08.40 | bzdoug_ | shouldnt |
| 22:08.42 | sussudio | cause a monkey outranks you |
| 22:08.57 | bzdoug_ | but sussudio under ranks me by 200000000 points |
| 22:09.01 | sn0w_m0nkey | "shouldn't" is good enough |
| 22:09.06 | sussudio | when bubbles isnt pleasuring michael jackson he codes |
| 22:09.58 | sn0w_m0nkey | so does 1.7g0 crash with this bug also? |
| 22:10.19 | sn0w_m0nkey | i love my moles patch too much to upgrade |
| 22:10.44 | Patlabor221 | what does the moles patch do? |
| 22:10.54 | sn0w_m0nkey | gives me e4 style radar back |
| 22:11.10 | Patlabor221 | ahh yes |
| 22:11.11 | sn0w_m0nkey | i need that little border around the radar...to keep my accuracy |
| 22:11.26 | sn0w_m0nkey | without it...i miss my shot more often |
| 22:12.14 | sn0w_m0nkey | hehe |
| 22:12.31 | sn0w_m0nkey | i saw your radar snapshot once....fancy |
| 22:12.54 | Patlabor221 | have more plans now then just that |
| 22:12.55 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 22:12.59 | Patlabor221 | upper left |
| 22:13.05 | Patlabor221 | instead of lower |
| 22:13.10 | sn0w_m0nkey | wow |
| 22:13.11 | Patlabor221 | so you don't have to look down |
| 22:13.17 | sn0w_m0nkey | very interesting |
| 22:13.37 | sn0w_m0nkey | have you tried 2501 yet patlabor? |
| 22:13.46 | Patlabor221 | current wep type, reset times, and shot buffer info in lower left |
| 22:13.48 | Patlabor221 | yes I have |
| 22:13.56 | Patlabor221 | tho it seems to have stagnated |
| 22:14.02 | sn0w_m0nkey | radar is inline with sites |
| 22:14.07 | sn0w_m0nkey | target site |
| 22:14.07 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:14.19 | sn0w_m0nkey | i like that idea |
| 22:14.21 | bzdoug_ | sn0w_m0nkey: p2501? |
| 22:14.25 | sn0w_m0nkey | yes doug |
| 22:14.26 | Patlabor221 | but I may make the target sights move :) |
| 22:14.33 | sn0w_m0nkey | nice |
| 22:14.34 | Patlabor221 | and change based on wep |
| 22:15.14 | sn0w_m0nkey | its amazing to see this game change so much in the little time i have played it |
| 22:17.55 | Patlabor221 | can you encode an icon in a linux app? |
| 22:18.03 | *** part/#bzflag Cell (~booble@pD9E50BD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:18.24 | bzdoug_ | icon? in a linux app? hahahahaa |
| 22:18.27 | bzdoug_ | er |
| 22:18.40 | Patlabor221 | doug: if you don't know dn't comment |
| 22:18.50 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you mean like resource files? |
| 22:18.56 | Patlabor221 | or however |
| 22:19.23 | Patlabor221 | can I have bz on linux have an icon like windows does, without having to have the user set it |
| 22:19.34 | *** join/#bzflag nikt (nikt@nikt.org) |
| 22:20.38 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: well you can do special things like that for certain desktops (like gnome or kde) by installing some metadata, but there is no "resource fork" |
| 22:20.58 | Patlabor221 | I didn't think there was a resource fork |
| 22:21.06 | Patlabor221 | only OS I know that has that is macs |
| 22:21.14 | Patlabor221 | dosn't sound like there is a standard way tho |
| 22:21.58 | bzdoug_ | how does windows hold a icon file? |
| 22:22.19 | Patlabor221 | it can be encoded in the data of an EXE or a DLL |
| 22:22.34 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah, no such thing |
| 22:22.34 | Patlabor221 | not realy a seperate fork of the file system |
| 22:22.41 | rae | yes, you can encode an icon in a Linux app. |
| 22:22.51 | captain_proton | there -are- people who have done hacks to include data file in the code segment or such but there isn't a standard |
| 22:22.53 | rae | Use ppm format |
| 22:23.02 | rae | Or use standard X resources. |
| 22:23.08 | scan[ibook] | rae: ugly :) |
| 22:24.10 | rae | Usually there is an X resource with the name of a bitmap file containing the icon thogh |
| 22:25.18 | scan[ibook] | X resources and the ICCCM creep me out |
| 22:25.55 | captain_proton | rae: but its still stored in a separate file or in the code segment |
| 22:26.40 | captain_proton | ergh |
| 22:26.42 | rae | or if you're really evil, in the text area of the app.. :-) |
| 22:26.48 | captain_proton | these screws are all stripped |
| 22:26.51 | rae | Usually a eparate file though. |
| 22:26.58 | rae | er separate |
| 22:29.00 | rae | e.g. icewm keeps icons under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/themes |
| 22:29.17 | rae | while WindowMaker uses /usr/X11/share/WindowMaker/Icons |
| 22:36.49 | Jormungandr | gunna take an hour just to config hybrid-7 irc server |
| 22:39.10 | rae | Jormungandr: in case you didn't see -- i checked in those changes for BzfEvent.h etc |
| 22:39.21 | Jormungandr | cool. thanks. |
| 22:39.35 | Jormungandr | updating cvs... |
| 22:42.00 | *** join/#bzflag victorvdl (victorvdl@ip207.174-173-207.eli-du.nwlink.com) |
| 22:47.36 | rae | Why is CVS so pig-dog slow today? |
| 22:47.50 | rae | Is sf.net having problems? |
| 22:48.06 | rae | It's not usually anywhere near this bad.. |
| 22:48.22 | rae | It took 8 minutes to do a cvs update. |
| 22:48.40 | bzdoug_ | pig-dog? |
| 22:48.48 | victorvdl | rae: Be glad you don't have dialup. Very, very glad. |
| 22:48.49 | bzdoug_ | I thought it was dog-cow |
| 22:48.55 | rae | -sud |
| 22:49.01 | rae | :-P |
| 22:49.03 | rae | :-) |
| 22:49.32 | rae | I'll bet it's the exact same speed over dial-up |
| 22:49.48 | rae | it isn't the amount of data. It's just the connection to sf.net |
| 22:49.52 | bzdoug_ | MOOF MOOF! |
| 22:49.56 | rae | he |
| 22:50.22 | Patlabor221 | barnk barnk! |
| 22:50.24 | rae | ~sud |
| 22:50.28 | | shut up doug |
| 22:50.40 | rae | hm, didn't realize it was a tilde. This font makes ~ and - look alike |
| 22:51.05 | rae | What else can ibot do other than tell doug to shut up? :-D |
| 22:51.11 | bzdoug_ | oinrk oinrk |
| 22:51.16 | rae | ~help |
| 22:51.20 | bzdoug_ | ~lart rae |
| 22:51.21 | Patlabor221 | ~who is your daddy. |
| 22:51.21 | | YOU are, Mr. Sexy Pants |
| 22:51.28 | bzdoug_ | ~insult rae |
| 22:51.30 | rae | Wow, lots of help |
| 22:51.41 | bzdoug_ | ~die |
| 22:51.42 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 22:51.45 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 22:51.59 | Patlabor221 | moslty useless stuff you can allready do on your calculator |
| 22:52.04 | Patlabor221 | ~jzaun |
| 22:52.04 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:52.13 | bzdoug_ | ~no, die is <action> takes 5 shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 22:52.42 | Patlabor221 | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:52.53 | Patlabor221 | or is it |
| 22:52.55 | Patlabor221 | ~bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:53.22 | rae | ~bzquery jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:53.23 | rae | ? |
| 22:53.33 | bzdoug_ | ~who are you |
| 22:53.34 | | it has been said that ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:53.34 | rae | ~bzfquery jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:53.43 | Patlabor221 | there it goes |
| 22:58.47 | rae | Wow, that's a great map on jzaun |
| 22:59.05 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: me too, how does one open RGB files? |
| 22:59.10 | bzdoug_ | instead of gimp |
| 22:59.11 | Patlabor221 | GIMP |
| 22:59.12 | stibnite | i've got a question for a developer, not a big question- just a little patch to bzfs.cxx that i'm trying to write |
| 22:59.15 | stibnite | is such a person around? |
| 22:59.17 | Patlabor221 | it's all about the gimp |
| 22:59.20 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 22:59.27 | Patlabor221 | what is the patch? |
| 22:59.39 | bzdoug_ | stibnite: captain_proton, Chestal, scanline, Patlabor221, jzaun... |
| 22:59.42 | Patlabor221 | doug: you know there is gimp on windows right? |
| 22:59.48 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 22:59.54 | bzdoug_ | but its soooo, GPLed like |
| 23:00.11 | stibnite | oo |
| 23:00.14 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 23:00.15 | bzdoug_ | ok |
| 23:00.16 | Patlabor221 | yeah he's better then that |
| 23:00.21 | stibnite | the patch is rbl support |
| 23:00.26 | Patlabor221 | and I'm suposed to be evil |
| 23:00.26 | bzdoug_ | rbl? |
| 23:00.28 | Patlabor221 | rbl? |
| 23:00.38 | stibnite | dns-based blacklisting for ip's |
| 23:00.43 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 23:00.48 | stibnite | would allow for a distributed banlist |
| 23:01.02 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 23:01.14 | bzdoug_ | it would use a thing like bzflist to hold the ips? |
| 23:01.18 | stibnite | it's basically the same thing that spamcop provides |
| 23:01.23 | stibnite | no, it's in dns. |
| 23:01.23 | Patlabor221 | doug, shut it |
| 23:01.38 | stibnite | i add a couple lines in validate() to call a function i wrote |
| 23:01.49 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 23:01.50 | stibnite | the problem is this: i don't know much about programming. |
| 23:01.53 | Patlabor221 | does it work? |
| 23:01.56 | stibnite | i'll show you the error i get: |
| 23:02.00 | stibnite | it's a compile error |
| 23:02.03 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 23:02.06 | stibnite | type mismatch |
| 23:02.21 | stibnite | in validate, i call it as follows: |
| 23:02.23 | stibnite | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.47 | stibnite | and the function: |
| 23:02.48 | stibnite | bool isBlacklisted(struct in_addr &a) |
| 23:03.00 | Patlabor221 | what is "ipAddr.s_addr"? |
| 23:03.00 | sussudio | stibnite: err... someone on hashmark now....... "Happy Dildo"...... |
| 23:03.07 | stibnite | cheater? |
| 23:03.08 | Patlabor221 | an in_addr? |
| 23:03.17 | sussudio | no.... just stupid nick |
| 23:03.18 | stibnite | it's something i copied |
| 23:03.29 | Patlabor221 | try taking out the cast |
| 23:03.34 | stibnite | ok |
| 23:03.46 | Patlabor221 | just pass in ipAddr.s_addr |
| 23:03.59 | Patlabor221 | it should be an in_addr allready |
| 23:04.04 | stibnite | ok, i've tried that as well- here's what i get: |
| 23:04.13 | stibnite | bzfs.cxx:483: conversion from `in_addr_t' to non-scalar type `in_addr' requested |
| 23:04.41 | Patlabor221 | is the struct typedefed anywhere? if so you don't need the "struct" then |
| 23:05.24 | stibnite | ok, agreed not necessary |
| 23:05.57 | Patlabor221 | I'm not that famialr with sockets, I'd have tos ee what an in_addr_t is |
| 23:06.08 | stibnite | tcp form of in_addr |
| 23:06.16 | stibnite | i believe there's in_addr_t and in_addr_u |
| 23:06.26 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 23:06.36 | Patlabor221 | and what is an in_addr then? |
| 23:06.45 | stibnite | an ip, afaik |
| 23:06.47 | rae | ibot should be hooked up to a glimpse searchindex of /usr/include |
| 23:06.48 | | rae: no idea |
| 23:06.52 | Patlabor221 | can you cast it? |
| 23:06.56 | rae | then we could say "~in-addr" |
| 23:07.02 | rae | ~in-addr |
| 23:07.17 | Patlabor221 | it's in_addr |
| 23:07.19 | Patlabor221 | not - |
| 23:07.31 | rae | hah, not that it would work anyway.. |
| 23:07.36 | rae | ~in_addr |
| 23:08.14 | Patlabor221 | in addr is a union |
| 23:08.24 | stibnite | ok |
| 23:08.30 | stibnite | what's that? |
| 23:08.39 | stibnite | i'm really just an admin, not a programmer |
| 23:08.42 | rae | like a struct, but everything at once |
| 23:08.45 | stibnite | ah |
| 23:09.10 | rae | struct { int a, b, c; } means there are 3 parts, a b and c. |
| 23:09.15 | Jormungandr | thanks rae.. compiled and works fine. |
| 23:09.26 | rae | union { int a, b, c; } means there is one part, which can be called a, b or c |
| 23:09.31 | rae | Jormungandr: cool |
| 23:09.47 | bzdoug_ | WORK?!?!?!!? |
| 23:09.51 | Jormungandr | :( |
| 23:09.53 | bzdoug_ | ~dict work |
| 23:09.56 | stibnite | hrm.. polymorphism? |
| 23:10.00 | bzdoug_ | ~work |
| 23:10.01 | | work is probably slow right now, so TomW is trying to learn a new skillset so that I can market it later (ARM). |
| 23:11.08 | stibnite | i'm thinking that my problem is a pointer vs. array thing |
| 23:11.29 | stibnite | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.36 | stibnite | that's in the code already. |
| 23:12.26 | Patlabor221 | and your func needs what? an in_addr? |
| 23:12.32 | Patlabor221 | or an in_addr_t? |
| 23:12.36 | stibnite | in_addr |
| 23:12.52 | stibnite | it's not clear to me from the code in validate() how it becomes an in_addr_t |
| 23:12.54 | Patlabor221 | and you call the function from validate? |
| 23:12.59 | stibnite | yes |
| 23:13.10 | Patlabor221 | just pass in ipAddr then |
| 23:13.15 | Patlabor221 | it's an in_addr |
| 23:13.28 | stibnite | that's the client ip? |
| 23:13.44 | stibnite | oo |
| 23:13.47 | stibnite | oo! |
| 23:13.50 | stibnite | it built |
| 23:13.55 | bzdoug_ | oo! |
| 23:14.00 | bzdoug_ | I have a OO flag! |
| 23:14.05 | stibnite | hehe |
| 23:14.14 | Jormungandr | [2003/1/13 16.01] "/usr/local/ircd/etc/ircd.conf", line 250: parse error: password = "1z/Kr55ccMaD6"; |
| 23:14.20 | Jormungandr | erps wrong channel :) |
| 23:14.28 | bzdoug_ | yea, thats right!! |
| 23:14.29 | stibnite | hehe |
| 23:14.30 | bzdoug_ | ~whois Jormungandr |
| 23:14.34 | stibnite | nice pass |
| 23:14.38 | stibnite | unless it's a DES hash |
| 23:14.39 | Patlabor221 | ipAddr.S_unb.s_b1 to ipAddr.S_unb.s_b4 is the ip |
| 23:14.40 | Jormungandr | good thing it's encrypted :) |
| 23:14.44 | Jormungandr | it is |
| 23:14.57 | Patlabor221 | struct in_addr { |
| 23:14.57 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.57 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.57 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.57 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.57 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.09 | Jormungandr | back in a few... driving to work. |
| 23:15.09 | stibnite | oh cool! |
| 23:15.18 | stibnite | it already splits the quads for me! |
| 23:15.25 | TimRiker | anyone have a cheat client that can grab flags on join? |
| 23:16.09 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:16.11 | Patlabor221 | SW |
| 23:16.24 | TimRiker | I mean one that you can test with once I do a patch. |
| 23:16.26 | Patlabor221 | gets SW every respawn |
| 23:16.30 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:16.32 | Patlabor221 | this isn't mine |
| 23:16.36 | Patlabor221 | it's one I was sent |
| 23:16.40 | Patlabor221 | the one that does lightning |
| 23:16.52 | TimRiker | ok, cool. I'm hacking in support on bzfs to check that you are "near" a flag. |
| 23:17.06 | Patlabor221 | just gotta find it |
| 23:17.50 | Patlabor221 | foudn it |
| 23:17.53 | Patlabor221 | just let me know |
| 23:18.35 | bzdoug_ | lighting?? |
| 23:18.39 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:18.40 | bzdoug_ | I gotta see this |
| 23:18.53 | Patlabor221 | if his fix work, you won't see it |
| 23:18.53 | bzdoug_ | who sent it to ya? |
| 23:19.05 | bzdoug_ | oh |
| 23:19.12 | bzdoug_ | could you go test it someplace else? |
| 23:19.22 | bzdoug_ | or give it to me? I want to see this lighting |
| 23:19.33 | Patlabor221 | nevva |
| 23:19.48 | Patlabor221 | its a true cheat |
| 23:20.00 | bzdoug_ | I have others too |
| 23:20.04 | bzdoug_ | cell's cheat |
| 23:20.12 | bzdoug_ | but I want to see this lighting |
| 23:20.41 | bzdoug_ | not much is worse that cells cheat |
| 23:21.22 | bzdoug_ | it can kill everybody on the map, and also shoot bullets around itself, and aims and shoots |
| 23:21.30 | bzdoug_ | very interesting |
| 23:22.09 | bzdoug_ | how hard would it be to add a rear view mirrow? |
| 23:22.12 | bzdoug_ | mirror?* |
| 23:23.32 | Patlabor221 | not trivial |
| 23:23.40 | bzdoug_ | k |
| 23:23.46 | stibnite | bzdoug_: depends on the type: glue-on is a little work, but hondas have ones that actually bolt to the ceiling |
| 23:24.06 | bzdoug_ | stibnite: haaaaaa, I should have seen that coming |
| 23:24.20 | Patlabor221 | or there are those huge ones that go acros the car |
| 23:24.20 | stibnite | *answer |
| 23:24.30 | stibnite | ooh like in cabs sometimes? |
| 23:24.35 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 23:24.43 | stibnite | funny that they seldom pay attention to those. |
| 23:24.49 | bzdoug_ | how about a button that will switch views back and forth? |
| 23:25.06 | bzdoug_ | stibnite: lol |
| 23:25.22 | stibnite | i will have to write up my daemontools setup |
| 23:25.29 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 23:25.43 | stibnite | hrm... |
| 23:25.50 | stibnite | best you could do would probably be firedaemon |
| 23:26.18 | stibnite | ibot: google firedaemon |
| 23:26.19 | | stibnite: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 23:26.23 | stibnite | lol |
| 23:26.41 | stibnite | i did try to build daemontools under cygwin once |
| 23:26.46 | stibnite | but it just didn't work out. |
| 23:26.47 | bzdoug_ | oh yea |
| 23:26.55 | bzdoug_ | I heard about firedeamon |
| 23:27.00 | bzdoug_ | interesting |
| 23:27.02 | stibnite | it's a nice app |
| 23:27.08 | bzdoug_ | I could make any app run as a service |
| 23:27.09 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 23:27.12 | stibnite | my friends that do distributed computing use it a lot. |
| 23:27.14 | bzdoug_ | like bzfs |
| 23:27.18 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 23:27.23 | bzdoug_ | thats where I heard it from |
| 23:27.26 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 23:27.28 | stibnite | what team you on? |
| 23:27.48 | bzdoug_ | no, I dont do that stuff, I was just browsing the website |
| 23:27.51 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 23:27.51 | stibnite | ahh |
| 23:27.57 | stibnite | i used to be on all the Ars teams |
| 23:28.05 | stibnite | but then i lost my fleet. :( |
| 23:28.05 | bzdoug_ | slashdot or something linked to it |
| 23:28.11 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 23:32.40 | sussudio | man, that was one stupid cheater....... |
| 23:32.45 | sussudio | it was you, doug wasnt it. |
| 23:35.33 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@pD9E50BD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:35.47 | *** part/#bzflag Cell (~booble@pD9E50BD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:35.54 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@pD9E50BD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:35.56 | Cell | oha |
| 23:40.58 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@pD9E50BD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:41.00 | Jormungandr | yay... hybrid-7 installed and working |
| 23:42.06 | Cell | hm, tying to find an optimal openig cut for a 2-manifold mesh surface to topologically unwrap it to a disk |
| 23:46.45 | Cell | a parametrization can be find that maps a terrain(non highfield) ontoa 2d rect, that gets amazing lod automatically |
| 23:47.14 | TimRiker | ok, one has the flag grab patch. |
| 23:47.22 | Patlabor221 | k one sec |
| 23:47.31 | Patlabor221 | ok goin in |
| 23:48.03 | TimRiker | heh |
| 23:48.08 | Patlabor221 | crap got kicked for movin too fast |
| 23:48.11 | Patlabor221 | have to be carefull |
| 23:48.53 | sussudio | some idiot earlier screwed up his cheatclient....... |
| 23:49.06 | sussudio | said GM next to his nick, locked on to me, but shot with normal bullets |
| 23:51.05 | Patlabor221 | hmm this not be a real "gimme a flag" hack |
| 23:51.30 | sussudio | it must be the 'doug tried to make a cheat client' hack |
| 23:51.37 | sussudio | x |
| 23:51.56 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: do can you shoot SW that you think you have? |
| 23:52.12 | Patlabor221 | I was fireing it all the time I was in there |
| 23:52.17 | Patlabor221 | seems noone can see it |
| 23:52.21 | Patlabor221 | and it don't kill anyone |
| 23:52.46 | TimRiker | cool. ;-) |
| 23:52.50 | sussudio | he edited the wrong vars then |
| 23:53.10 | Patlabor221 | musta |
| 23:53.28 | sussudio | local instead of for other players |
| 23:53.28 | TimRiker | I never got a "tried to grab flag" message though. |
| 23:53.28 | Patlabor221 | I think the SW is just to do the lightining |
| 23:53.45 | Patlabor221 | I don't think it's a real atempt at geting the wepon |
| 23:53.50 | TimRiker | anyone else got a gimmie a flag hack? |
| 23:54.58 | Patlabor221 | cell does your cheat do insta-flags? |
| 23:55.09 | Patlabor221 | bahh he's gone |
| 23:56.11 | TimRiker | hmm. does not seem to catch it... |
| 23:56.48 | Patlabor221 | and my BZFlag:zero dosn't do any insta flags or anything like that |
| 23:59.32 | TimRiker | ah, oops, did not start the new binary. works now. |
| 23:59.40 | TimRiker | try one again. |
