| 00:00.02 | bzdougg | ? |
| 00:00.58 | Jormungandr | finding screws |
| 00:01.50 | bzdougg | lol |
| 00:04.18 | *** join/#bzflag wallydog (~me@66-159-172-16.adsl.snet.net) |
| 00:04.51 | wallydog | anyone have a diamond viper v770 card (under linux), if so, what mojo do I have to apply to get DRI going? |
| 00:05.19 | bzdougg | hmm, the intruction sheet is so stupid |
| 00:05.36 | Jormungandr | <--- no diamond cards. |
| 00:05.39 | Jormungandr | sorry :) |
| 00:05.43 | bzdougg | it shows a 4 pin connector pluging into a 2 pin connector |
| 00:05.44 | Jormungandr | or I'd help. |
| 00:05.45 | bzdougg | not me |
| 00:06.28 | bzdougg | I have the same cable, and it SHOWS it pluging in there, but it also shows that they are diferent sizes, but that have an arrow points at it |
| 00:07.06 | Jormungandr | now I need to do one of the blog page things with my sidekick... automatically send pics I take with it, etc. |
| 00:07.12 | Jormungandr | the camera is spiffy. |
| 00:07.15 | bzdougg | hah |
| 00:07.17 | Jormungandr | and attaches to keychain |
| 00:07.17 | bzdougg | I want one |
| 00:07.20 | Jormungandr | tiny |
| 00:07.29 | bzdougg | what does it use? cellphone? |
| 00:07.33 | bzdougg | WiFi? |
| 00:07.39 | Jormungandr | gprs |
| 00:07.50 | Jormungandr | wireless/cell |
| 00:07.51 | bzdougg | hmm |
| 00:07.53 | bzdougg | ah |
| 00:08.17 | bzdougg | THAT would be spiffy |
| 00:08.19 | bzdougg | :) |
| 00:08.29 | bzdougg | can you upload programs to it? |
| 00:08.40 | bzdougg | how much does it cost per month? |
| 00:08.46 | Jormungandr | soon, from what I understand. |
| 00:08.56 | Jormungandr | there is $30 and $60 plans |
| 00:09.02 | bzdougg | ah |
| 00:09.04 | bzdougg | ick |
| 00:09.07 | bzdougg | too much |
| 00:09.12 | bzdougg | I will spend that on dsl |
| 00:09.19 | bzdougg | but not for wireless things |
| 00:09.20 | bzdougg | :) |
| 00:09.36 | bzdougg | unless its as fast as dsl, and I can hook up my network to it |
| 00:09.42 | Jormungandr | I was paying 30 for unimited paging, 25 for internet access from pager, and $30 for my phone plan |
| 00:09.52 | Chestal | jzaun: once more plase |
| 00:09.57 | Jormungandr | now I can pay the $60, get the same things, and pay $25 less. |
| 00:10.02 | wallydog | must get dri going - bbiaw |
| 00:10.46 | Chestal | jzaun: failed already |
| 00:11.01 | jzaun | how so? |
| 00:11.09 | Chestal | go tkicked when landing |
| 00:11.19 | Chestal | I guess the client's behaviour is simplistic |
| 00:11.21 | bzdougg | hmm |
| 00:11.42 | bzdougg | Jormungandr: indeed |
| 00:11.44 | Chestal | it only sets new speed whe mouse moves or something |
| 00:11.46 | Chestal | will test |
| 00:12.09 | jzaun | Chestal: server needs to keep a cleint state |
| 00:12.12 | bzdougg | Jormungandr: but then I dont need a cell phone, pager, and internet access from pager either |
| 00:12.12 | Jormungandr | for me, it's great, cuz I have constant net access. |
| 00:12.20 | bzdougg | Jormungandr: yea, thats nice |
| 00:12.30 | Jormungandr | I will need it once fiber goes in at datacenter. |
| 00:12.41 | bzdougg | Jormungandr: but still... I would rather have a zaurus with a cell phone thingy hooked up to it |
| 00:12.47 | bzdougg | :) |
| 00:14.30 | Jormungandr | this is EXACTLY the sort of device I have been waiting for. |
| 00:14.38 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 00:14.40 | Jormungandr | now it just has to grow up abit. |
| 00:15.07 | bzdougg | yea |
| 00:15.08 | bzdougg | :) |
| 00:15.34 | Jormungandr | still, it is has had a perfect start. |
| 00:16.57 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 00:18.48 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-64-173-106-149.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 00:19.01 | bzdoug_ | 'lo Patlabor221!!!!!?!?!?! |
| 00:19.15 | Patlabor221 | helo |
| 00:19.18 | Patlabor221 | why??? |
| 00:19.27 | bzdoug_ | why? |
| 00:19.40 | Patlabor221 | why the '!?!?!?!??!?!? |
| 00:19.49 | bzdoug_ | hmm, good question |
| 00:23.36 | Patlabor221 | huzza for peer |
| 00:26.48 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 00:27.13 | bzdoug_ | rejoice |
| 00:27.14 | Patlabor221 | where is peer when you need him |
| 00:27.19 | bzdoug_ | thank you thank you, you are all too kind |
| 00:30.21 | Chestal | high speed check is still broken, giving up for now |
| 00:31.15 | Patlabor221 | hmmm, perhaps I don't want to update to CVS, if it's gonna bust X |
| 00:32.11 | Patlabor221 | would be nice if all the server stide checks were in a seperate file from bzfs |
| 00:32.14 | Chestal | I disabled the speed check fo rnow until someone thinks of a good fix |
| 00:32.16 | Patlabor221 | then I could just not merget that in |
| 00:32.30 | Chestal | well ,these checks are more or less simple hacks for now |
| 00:32.37 | Chestal | what can easily be checked makes it in |
| 00:32.51 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 00:33.12 | Patlabor221 | I'm just thinking it would be nice to have all the checks in a "check packet" function |
| 00:33.17 | Patlabor221 | that calls all the subchecks |
| 00:33.22 | Patlabor221 | and put that in a difrent file |
| 00:33.32 | Patlabor221 | so that I can maintain my own logic |
| 00:33.46 | Patlabor221 | and still be able to merge new BZ stuff in easaly |
| 00:34.24 | Patlabor221 | tho I am going to keep 2 probject, one normal BZ so I can make patches for stuff that may be good for regular bz |
| 00:34.45 | Patlabor221 | I think if my model fix is good, tim may let it go in |
| 00:35.15 | Chestal | difficult to maintain a patched version over a longer time period |
| 00:35.27 | Patlabor221 | yes I know |
| 00:35.34 | Patlabor221 | once I make the patch I will have to archive it |
| 00:35.44 | Chestal | running a slightly patched g1 for playing |
| 00:35.46 | Patlabor221 | and then get a new CVS for the next thing |
| 00:35.54 | Chestal | must always be careful that I don't accidentally submit my patches :-) |
| 00:36.05 | Patlabor221 | yeah that must be fun |
| 00:36.19 | Patlabor221 | tho I think that Tim may like some of my ideas |
| 00:36.46 | Patlabor221 | excpt for the one that replaces all GM shots with chickens |
| 00:36.50 | Chestal | for g2 we probabl yshouldn't pu tit any major patches |
| 00:37.02 | Chestal | hm, I might like that one |
| 00:37.18 | Patlabor221 | well I am going to make it load an optional model |
| 00:37.31 | Patlabor221 | but I planed on a real missle model |
| 00:38.24 | Chestal | well, I'm tired, good night |
| 00:38.29 | Patlabor221 | night |
| 00:39.02 | jzaun | night |
| 00:58.07 | bzdoug_ | night |
| 01:14.15 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.230) |
| 01:14.28 | bzdoug_ | ~seen bzfrank |
| 01:14.28 | | bzdoug_: i haven't seen 'bzfrank' |
| 01:19.37 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: i really do try not to put spaces in... it's just a habit that's hard to shake ;) |
| 01:20.03 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 01:20.41 | bzdoug_ | dumb computer, it says right on the front, 48x16x48 but it still burns at 16 x |
| 01:22.34 | Patlabor221 | is it a RW disk? |
| 01:22.39 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 01:22.40 | bzdoug_ | R |
| 01:22.42 | Patlabor221 | and do you have the right drivers installed? |
| 01:22.45 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 01:22.47 | Patlabor221 | did you used to have a 16? |
| 01:22.50 | bzdoug_ | it dint come with drivers |
| 01:23.01 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 01:23.03 | Patlabor221 | did you replace one drive with another? |
| 01:23.09 | bzdoug_ | I never had a CD-RW or CD-r before |
| 01:23.16 | bzdoug_ | I replaced my old cdrom |
| 01:23.29 | Patlabor221 | what burning SW you using? |
| 01:23.37 | bzdoug_ | DirectCD |
| 01:23.50 | bzdoug_ | it wont let me set it any higher |
| 01:23.51 | hardwire | DireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeectCD |
| 01:23.51 | Patlabor221 | shit man no wonder |
| 01:23.55 | bzdoug_ | "_ |
| 01:23.56 | Patlabor221 | that thig blows |
| 01:24.00 | Patlabor221 | use nero |
| 01:24.00 | bzdoug_ | indeed |
| 01:24.04 | bzdoug_ | I dont have nero |
| 01:24.06 | Patlabor221 | nero kicks the ass |
| 01:24.08 | Patlabor221 | so DL it |
| 01:24.14 | hardwire | cdrecord! |
| 01:24.30 | Patlabor221 | he's not that swift with they typing OSs |
| 01:24.32 | bzdoug_ | hardwire: bah, you and your command prompt stuff |
| 01:24.38 | Patlabor221 | see |
| 01:24.42 | bzdoug_ | hmm, download it eh? |
| 01:24.47 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:24.54 | Patlabor221 | ahead software |
| 01:24.54 | hardwire | from the innurnet |
| 01:25.03 | bzdoug_ | costs 69 bucks |
| 01:25.16 | Patlabor221 | you can do 1 of 3 things, |
| 01:25.22 | Patlabor221 | 1) shut up an buy it |
| 01:25.27 | Patlabor221 | 2) hit the demo button |
| 01:25.32 | bzdoug_ | ugh |
| 01:25.36 | hardwire | use lunix |
| 01:25.39 | Patlabor221 | 3) looks for a string of number that makes it all work |
| 01:25.47 | Patlabor221 | 4) use liunx |
| 01:25.49 | bzdoug_ | uh huh |
| 01:25.53 | bzdoug_ | thats 4 things |
| 01:25.55 | Patlabor221 | 5) just deal with 16 |
| 01:26.01 | bzdoug_ | thats 5 |
| 01:26.02 | Patlabor221 | 6) just shudddap |
| 01:26.06 | bzdoug_ | thats 6 |
| 01:26.11 | Patlabor221 | you point? |
| 01:26.19 | Patlabor221 | I'm in 2x mode today |
| 01:26.28 | bzdoug_ | 2x cdburning mode? |
| 01:26.34 | hardwire | 2x annoying? |
| 01:26.40 | Patlabor221 | 2x EVERYTHING mode |
| 01:26.44 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 01:26.51 | hardwire | 2 x 3? |
| 01:26.55 | Patlabor221 | 6 |
| 01:27.01 | bzdoug_ | ~2 x 3 |
| 01:27.04 | hardwire | 5 |
| 01:27.07 | Patlabor221 | baka |
| 01:27.11 | hardwire | aka toma! |
| 01:27.14 | hardwire | baka toma! |
| 01:27.22 | Patlabor221 | paka pervosen idoten |
| 01:27.31 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm |
| 01:27.33 | bzdoug_ | ~2.0 x 3.0 |
| 01:27.35 | Patlabor221 | I need food badly |
| 01:27.38 | hardwire | 5.0 |
| 01:28.01 | hardwire | I just tried cooking |
| 01:28.05 | hardwire | made blackened chicken |
| 01:28.08 | hardwire | looked great |
| 01:28.16 | Jormungandr | what a buncha buggy malarky this aim2irc stuff is. |
| 01:28.21 | hardwire | but it was a little cold in the center |
| 01:28.24 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: indeed |
| 01:28.37 | bzdoug_ | hardwire: rare chicken? thats a new one on me |
| 01:28.44 | Jormungandr | can't /msg, cuz it's broken. |
| 01:28.44 | hardwire | ? |
| 01:28.57 | Jormungandr | and I can only connect to my localhost |
| 01:29.05 | bzdoug_ | purple? must be cold |
| 01:29.08 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: worked for me |
| 01:29.16 | Patlabor221 | are they just starting working on it? |
| 01:29.24 | hardwire | bzdoug_: have you ever seen a purple chicken.. I would assome they are rare :) |
| 01:29.52 | bzdoug_ | I have never seen a purple cow, and I never wish to be one |
| 01:30.02 | Patlabor221 | tho I did have in-n-out today, that was some good stuff. |
| 01:30.04 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: hmm, fast food? |
| 01:30.18 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: raw fish? |
| 01:30.26 | Patlabor221 | yes but not of the normal clalber |
| 01:30.27 | bzdoug_ | hardwire: ugh, your grossing me out |
| 01:30.33 | Patlabor221 | slow fast food |
| 01:30.35 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: WASABI! |
| 01:30.40 | bzdoug_ | oh |
| 01:31.03 | Patlabor221 | and not cheap fast food ether |
| 01:31.24 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 01:33.01 | Patlabor221 | no you just need an add killa |
| 01:33.12 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 01:33.13 | hardwire | ad killa? |
| 01:33.14 | Patlabor221 | and it's not them, it's the company that sells there adds |
| 01:33.24 | Patlabor221 | kills most popups |
| 01:33.39 | Patlabor221 | -i |
| 01:33.43 | hardwire | += killa |
| 01:33.49 | Patlabor221 | 2i |
| 01:33.58 | hardwire | belongs my head |
| 01:34.08 | Patlabor221 | or wait i*i = 1 |
| 01:34.16 | bzdoug_ | 1 != addkilla |
| 01:34.19 | Patlabor221 | i*i*i = i |
| 01:34.22 | hardwire | i=1 |
| 01:34.34 | Patlabor221 | no i = i |
| 01:34.42 | bzdoug_ | z = z |
| 01:34.44 | Patlabor221 | i = sqrt(-1) |
| 01:34.51 | bzdoug_ | hardwire != Patlabor221 |
| 01:34.58 | Patlabor221 | thankfully |
| 01:35.00 | hardwire | but i = 1; gang >= 3 |
| 01:35.18 | bzdoug_ | hmm, I had nero install allready |
| 01:35.23 | hardwire | couple = 2 |
| 01:35.26 | Patlabor221 | hardware + 4 = Patlabor222 |
| 01:35.37 | hardwire | bored_people_in_hardwires_house = 2 |
| 01:35.46 | Patlabor221 | kill one |
| 01:35.50 | bzdoug_ | the whole world = 42 |
| 01:35.58 | Patlabor221 | not just the world man |
| 01:36.02 | hardwire | yeah! |
| 01:36.04 | Patlabor221 | think larger then what you can see |
| 01:36.23 | bzdoug_ | the whole galaxy = 42 |
| 01:36.24 | hardwire | nyuck nyuck nyuck |
| 01:36.40 | Patlabor221 | larger doug |
| 01:36.45 | Patlabor221 | or more specificly |
| 01:36.53 | Patlabor221 | READ THE DAMNED BOOKS |
| 01:37.03 | bzdoug_ | the whole hole, and nothing but the hole = 42 |
| 01:38.03 | Patlabor221 | ha there was a comic that had something like that |
| 01:38.11 | Patlabor221 | they had "warkaster" |
| 01:38.20 | Patlabor221 | or warkasters |
| 01:38.34 | Patlabor221 | who were mages in a modern era |
| 01:38.35 | bzdoug_ | bam, nero 5.5.10 full version |
| 01:38.56 | Jormungandr | since we have +f FLAGID {number}, does the old method still work? |
| 01:39.01 | Patlabor221 | who would turn themselves into pure energy, get fired out of a battle ship, then return |
| 01:39.04 | Patlabor221 | it was wierd |
| 01:39.20 | bzdoug_ | oh? |
| 01:39.23 | bzdoug_ | thats... odd |
| 01:39.36 | bzdoug_ | did they survive? |
| 01:39.39 | Patlabor221 | what was the old method |
| 01:39.48 | Patlabor221 | yeah they did, survive |
| 01:39.50 | Patlabor221 | usualy |
| 01:39.55 | Patlabor221 | for the next fireing |
| 01:39.55 | bzdoug_ | oh |
| 01:40.09 | Patlabor221 | like I said it was wierd |
| 01:40.13 | Patlabor221 | but realy good |
| 01:40.22 | bzdoug_ | how many fireings could they handle before exploading into a ball of plasma |
| 01:40.37 | Patlabor221 | depended on how good you were |
| 01:40.43 | Patlabor221 | and how far apart |
| 01:40.46 | Patlabor221 | the fireings were |
| 01:40.51 | Patlabor221 | it did not seem easy on them |
| 01:40.57 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 01:41.21 | Patlabor221 | they were also used to create teleports to the enimy ships or ground targets for boarding partys |
| 01:41.48 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 01:42.15 | Patlabor221 | have size issues there? |
| 01:42.19 | hardwire | not really |
| 01:42.23 | hardwire | when the time comes |
| 01:42.27 | hardwire | like the cops come |
| 01:42.34 | hardwire | or.. the mental ward |
| 01:42.38 | bzdoug_ | ugh, cops are allready fat |
| 01:42.38 | hardwire | or ... europeans |
| 01:42.42 | Patlabor221 | I can problly get some some e-mails that say they can help with enlargement |
| 01:42.52 | Patlabor221 | and send them to you |
| 01:42.54 | hardwire | I am just gonna spend those few precios minutes wanking off |
| 01:43.01 | hardwire | then.. enlarge my sperm |
| 01:43.07 | hardwire | and have then wiggle around all over the people |
| 01:43.16 | Patlabor221 | now that is nasy |
| 01:43.18 | hardwire | millions of sperm! |
| 01:43.23 | hardwire | I have an army in my pants |
| 01:43.27 | Patlabor221 | not as nasy as hoda |
| 01:43.31 | Patlabor221 | but nasy |
| 01:44.53 | hardwire | hoda? |
| 01:45.04 | bzdoug_ | ~seen hoda |
| 01:45.04 | | hoda <~hoda@12-221-176-131.client.insightBB.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 5d 22h 58m 18s ago, saying: 'k l8r all'. |
| 01:45.12 | bzdoug_ | ~hoda? |
| 01:45.41 | Patlabor221 | hoda was umm "odd" |
| 01:46.13 | bzdoug_ | thats an understatement |
| 01:46.24 | Patlabor221 | yeah almost as odd as doug |
| 01:46.41 | bzdoug_ | not quite |
| 01:47.11 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 01:47.17 | Patlabor221 | like I said allmost |
| 01:47.26 | bzdoug_ | amazing, I would have thought I could I filled up many cd roms |
| 01:47.40 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 01:48.05 | bzdoug_ | a 40 gig drive |
| 01:48.18 | bzdoug_ | so far I ae gone through all my folders and have filled up 2 cdroms |
| 01:48.19 | Patlabor221 | read the first thing you says |
| 01:48.25 | Patlabor221 | it makes no sense |
| 01:48.27 | bzdoug_ | hmm? |
| 01:48.31 | hardwire | says what? |
| 01:48.36 | bzdoug_ | I say hmm all the time |
| 01:48.38 | Patlabor221 | amazing, I would have thought I could I filled up many cd roms |
| 01:48.56 | Patlabor221 | 1) is your 40 full? |
| 01:49.00 | Patlabor221 | 2) how much is crap? |
| 01:49.06 | Patlabor221 | 3) how much is Pr0n? |
| 01:49.15 | hardwire | homie 40's/ |
| 01:49.21 | bzdoug_ | 40 is full |
| 01:49.26 | bzdoug_ | 90% is crap |
| 01:49.34 | Patlabor221 | ok how much is internet cache |
| 01:49.34 | bzdoug_ | 0% p0rn |
| 01:50.38 | Patlabor221 | so just add it up |
| 01:51.16 | bzdoug_ | GRRR! |
| 01:51.22 | bzdoug_ | it still says 16x |
| 01:51.27 | Patlabor221 | forgot your porn huh? |
| 01:51.29 | bzdoug_ | bloody thing |
| 01:52.02 | bzdoug_ | take only 5 min to burn.... right? |
| 01:52.15 | Patlabor221 | do the math |
| 01:52.26 | bzdoug_ | I did |
| 01:52.30 | Patlabor221 | 70 min for a full CD at 1x sped |
| 01:52.34 | Patlabor221 | plus TOC time |
| 01:52.45 | bzdoug_ | 80 min for a 700 meg cdrom |
| 01:52.54 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:52.57 | bzdoug_ | ~80/16 |
| 01:53.00 | bzdoug_ | right? |
| 01:53.03 | bzdoug_ | I did that |
| 01:53.06 | Patlabor221 | + TOC time |
| 01:53.08 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 01:53.12 | bzdoug_ | 3 more min |
| 01:53.28 | Patlabor221 | + gettin the files ready tmie |
| 01:53.42 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 01:54.31 | bzdoug_ | 40x speed, with the use of 80min CD, the total recording time drops down to 179sec |
| 01:56.07 | bzdoug_ | huh |
| 01:56.18 | bzdoug_ | I cant find any info on why it wont burn any faster |
| 01:56.42 | Patlabor221 | you sure it's a 48 burn? not a 48 read? |
| 01:56.52 | bzdoug_ | right on the front... |
| 01:57.03 | bzdoug_ | 48x16x48 |
| 01:57.04 | Patlabor221 | you sure it's not RW media? |
| 01:57.09 | bzdoug_ | yup |
| 01:57.16 | bzdoug_ | its out of a 50 pack of cdroms |
| 01:57.20 | bzdoug_ | imation |
| 01:57.23 | Patlabor221 | then your burner sucks |
| 01:57.32 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 01:57.48 | Patlabor221 | well that's the only thing left |
| 01:57.49 | Patlabor221 | SBS |
| 01:57.55 | bzdoug_ | SBS? |
| 01:58.02 | Patlabor221 | Sucky Burner Syndrome |
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| 01:58.39 | bzdoug_ | even windows says 16 max |
| 01:58.46 | polin8 | anyone had the new bzflag segfault on them? |
| 01:58.56 | Patlabor221 | clasic signs of SBS there doug |
| 01:59.02 | Patlabor221 | when you do what? |
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| 01:59.30 | polin8 | during a game, nothing identifiable |
| 01:59.35 | tvon | okay, so the only server code that has patched the 'crash the clients' code is in CVS? |
| 01:59.56 | Patlabor221 | there are some bugs that can cause crashed in CVS yes I think |
| 02:00.04 | tvon | no, I mean the hack/crash |
| 02:00.08 | bzdoug_ | "Computers are useless, They only give you answers." - Pablo Picasso |
| 02:00.11 | tvon | Some guy has been doing it on turkey all day |
| 02:00.13 | Patlabor221 | yes that fix is in |
| 02:00.18 | tvon | ah, k |
| 02:00.25 | Patlabor221 | but I think it has some ther things that are wrong with it |
| 02:00.26 | tvon | bzdoug_: bah, he never used *my* computer |
| 02:00.30 | tvon | hasnt given an answer yet! |
| 02:00.36 | Patlabor221 | they are working on a g2 with the fixes |
| 02:00.39 | tvon | k |
| 02:00.46 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:01.17 | polin8 | lol |
| 02:01.24 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:01.35 | tvon | that is soooo *not* funny |
| 02:01.42 | polin8 | took a while for that to sink in |
| 02:01.49 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 02:02.29 | bzdoug_ | http://www.burnoutpc.com/ |
| 02:04.49 | *** part/#bzflag polin8 (~polin8@pool-141-157-9-138.balt.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:05.18 | bzdoug_ | hmm, nero says it supports it |
| 02:05.43 | Patlabor221 | SBS |
| 02:05.48 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 02:05.53 | bzdoug_ | its brand knew |
| 02:06.29 | Patlabor221 | so sucky burners come in all ages |
| 02:06.32 | Patlabor221 | usualy new |
| 02:06.37 | Patlabor221 | what brand is it? |
| 02:06.38 | bzdoug_ | huh |
| 02:06.41 | bzdoug_ | sangsung |
| 02:06.56 | Patlabor221 | is it on an Ultra ATA 66 or higher buss? |
| 02:07.02 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:07.10 | bzdoug_ | motherboard thingy.... lemme check |
| 02:07.10 | Patlabor221 | with an ultra cable? |
| 02:07.14 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 02:07.16 | bzdoug_ | ultra cable |
| 02:07.35 | Patlabor221 | and none of the the other drives on the bus are lower then 66? |
| 02:07.54 | bzdoug_ | there is no other drives on that bus |
| 02:08.20 | Patlabor221 | you may suffer from CBP |
| 02:08.31 | bzdoug_ | oh? |
| 02:08.34 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:08.48 | Patlabor221 | Crapy Bus Phenomina |
| 02:09.01 | bzdoug_ | uh huh |
| 02:09.17 | Patlabor221 | happens when people think they know about something but realy just throw around buzz words |
| 02:10.03 | bzdoug_ | Ultra DMA 133/100/66/33 modes supported |
| 02:11.51 | Patlabor221 | this isn't the cable you glued together is it? |
| 02:11.58 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 02:12.01 | bzdoug_ | another one |
| 02:12.12 | Patlabor221 | you glued 2 together? |
| 02:12.24 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 02:12.30 | bzdoug_ | this other one is a real one |
| 02:12.32 | bzdoug_ | nice |
| 02:12.36 | bzdoug_ | came with something |
| 02:12.46 | Patlabor221 | well perhaps you got a bad drive? |
| 02:12.49 | Patlabor221 | where did you get it? |
| 02:12.55 | bzdoug_ | hmm, maybe firmware needs to be upgraded |
| 02:12.57 | Patlabor221 | fall off a truck? |
| 02:12.57 | bzdoug_ | bestbuy |
| 02:13.08 | Patlabor221 | wow, that must cost |
| 02:13.16 | Patlabor221 | like %25 more then it should have |
| 02:13.19 | Patlabor221 | how much? |
| 02:13.19 | bzdoug_ | yup |
| 02:13.32 | Patlabor221 | 60? |
| 02:13.33 | bzdoug_ | but I had to use my gift card, and my mom owed me money |
| 02:13.35 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 02:13.39 | Patlabor221 | ouch |
| 02:13.47 | bzdoug_ | 30 dollahs off mail in rebate |
| 02:13.47 | Patlabor221 | we get 52 speeds for $34 |
| 02:13.51 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 02:13.59 | bzdoug_ | do you accept best buy gift cards? |
| 02:14.04 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 02:14.12 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 02:14.14 | Patlabor221 | shoulda got the headphones |
| 02:14.17 | bzdoug_ | there enlies the problem |
| 02:14.20 | bzdoug_ | nah |
| 02:14.23 | Patlabor221 | then goten the money from your mom and got the CDrom too |
| 02:14.33 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:14.33 | Patlabor221 | then you wuld have had both |
| 02:14.41 | Patlabor221 | I am off |
| 02:14.46 | bzdoug_ | she only owed me 20 bucks |
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| 02:18.17 | Noodleman | ~seen bzdoug_ |
| 02:18.18 | | bzdoug_ is currently on #bzflag (1h 51m 30s). Has said a total of 131 messages. Is idling for 3m 32s |
| 02:18.22 | bzdoug_ | I aint here |
| 02:18.26 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:18.27 | bzdoug_ | this is my ghost |
| 02:18.34 | bzdoug_ | whats up? |
| 02:18.41 | Noodleman | hey, i've got 5 mod points on /. |
| 02:18.46 | Noodleman | you want them? |
| 02:18.47 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 02:18.51 | bzdoug_ | nah |
| 02:18.55 | bzdoug_ | I just got some of my own |
| 02:18.56 | Noodleman | i'll mod anything you want modded |
| 02:18.56 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:19.00 | Noodleman | heh |
| 02:19.14 | bzdoug_ | brb, gonna upgrade some firmware, and I gotta reboot |
| 02:19.23 | Noodleman | my last ones went to waste :-( |
| 02:19.26 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:19.28 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:19.42 | bzdoug_ | bah, I mod everything up in the first story I see... :) |
| 02:19.51 | Noodleman | lol |
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| 02:20.36 | roott | aha |
| 02:20.38 | roott | hmm |
| 02:20.50 | roott | do not use xchat while under root |
| 02:21.00 | roott | nahhhh, try to stop me |
| 02:21.31 | bzdouggg | ~seen Noodleman |
| 02:21.31 | | noodleman is currently on #bzflag (3m 37s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 1m 40s |
| 02:21.36 | bzdouggg | lol |
| 02:21.51 | bzdouggg | talkative person |
| 02:21.56 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:23.30 | bzdouggg | interesting, upgrading the firmware makes it change the model number |
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| 02:25.02 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 02:25.07 | bzdoug_ | lets try this again |
| 02:28.10 | bzdoug_ | says a 48x cd-r drive can burn a cd in 170 seconds + TOC |
| 02:28.48 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:28.51 | bzdoug_ | firmware did the trick |
| 02:29.07 | bzdoug_ | I can now burn at 48, read at 48, and burn cd-rw at 16 x |
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| 02:29.31 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:29.33 | bzdoug_ | scared him |
| 02:30.08 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 02:30.33 | bzdoug_ | BAH! |
| 02:30.41 | Noodleman | bah |
| 02:31.08 | bzdoug_ | BAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! |
| 02:31.27 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 02:31.30 | bzdoug_ | Bah. |
| 02:31.35 | bzdoug_ | thats better than you |
| 02:31.51 | Noodleman | Quintessential 'Bah' |
| 02:32.01 | bzdoug_ | forgot the . |
| 02:32.02 | Noodleman | haha to you |
| 02:32.14 | Noodleman | didn't need a . |
| 02:32.22 | Noodleman | .'s are for wimps |
| 02:32.24 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 02:32.43 | bzdoug_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.47 | Noodleman | pork bah |
| 02:33.33 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 02:33.38 | Noodleman | foo |
| 02:33.46 | bzdoug_ | thats the reason I cant burn any faster |
| 02:33.52 | bzdoug_ | the cdrom cant handle it |
| 02:33.53 | bzdoug_ | :( |
| 02:33.57 | bzdoug_ | er, cd-r |
| 02:34.06 | Noodleman | i burn 12's at 24x :-) |
| 02:34.14 | Noodleman | works fine |
| 02:34.16 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:34.17 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:34.32 | bzdoug_ | maybe I need to disable this ExacLink |
| 02:34.47 | bzdoug_ | hmm, simulation eh? |
| 02:35.06 | bzdoug_ | 50% done at 2 min |
| 02:35.19 | bzdoug_ | wow, and I remember when 4 x was fast |
| 02:35.27 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:35.40 | Noodleman | i've burned 2 redhat cd's at 4x |
| 02:35.41 | bzdoug_ | I still have that 4x cd-r burner scsi |
| 02:35.47 | Noodleman | takes 1.5 hours :-) |
| 02:35.55 | bzdoug_ | I have burned many redhat cds at 4x |
| 02:35.56 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:36.01 | bzdoug_ | each cd take 15 min |
| 02:36.03 | bzdoug_ | I think |
| 02:36.04 | Noodleman | i still have my 4x ide burner |
| 02:36.12 | bzdoug_ | unless something went wrong |
| 02:36.20 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 02:36.23 | bzdoug_ | ugh, 4x |
| 02:36.33 | bzdoug_ | they dont have 4x cd-rw drives anymore |
| 02:36.35 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 02:36.42 | Noodleman | maybe i burned them at 2x actually |
| 02:36.52 | bzdoug_ | thats worse |
| 02:37.48 | Noodleman | i have a 48x burner at work, and it smokes compared to burning at 2x :-) |
| 02:37.54 | bzdoug_ | hah |
| 02:38.48 | bzdoug_ | ~x de en Bitte erst du mussen ein bleistift nehmen in dein Arsch. |
| 02:38.55 | bzdoug_ | ugh |
| 02:39.03 | bzdoug_ | nice translation |
| 02:40.24 | bzdoug_ | ~x de en Ich versuchte das Programm, indem ich A/D(taking Analogsignale von DS1620 bildete und in digitale) Umwandlung in pic16f876 umwandelte, aber ich weiß nicht, was falsch ist, aber leider es nicht working.I erhielt einen Zweifel hier ist, daß wheather ANALOG-DIGITALUMWANDLUNG wirklich in DS1620 oder sollte ich in pic16f876 tun müssen geschieht. |
| 02:40.44 | bzdoug_ | hum |
| 02:45.31 | bzdoug_ | grr |
| 02:45.36 | bzdoug_ | now it says 16x is the max |
| 02:47.46 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 02:48.06 | bzdoug_ | yay |
| 02:48.11 | bzdoug_ | now it says 36x |
| 02:48.14 | bzdoug_ | wonderbar |
| 02:50.48 | Jormungandr | heh... friend sends email to mailing list of link to new years pics, and I sent back a pic of me frowning cuz I hafta work on saturday night. |
| 02:51.01 | bzdoug_ | hahah |
| 02:51.36 | Jormungandr | this camera takes small pics, but it's not terrible. |
| 02:51.44 | Jormungandr | and it's super convenient. |
| 02:52.06 | bzdoug_ | digital? |
| 02:52.07 | bzdoug_ | :P |
| 02:52.16 | bzdoug_ | (stupid question I know...) |
| 02:52.54 | bzdoug_ | ooh, exacly 700 megs |
| 02:52.56 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:54.05 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 02:54.15 | Jormungandr | not all digital pics are bad. |
| 02:54.19 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 02:54.26 | bzdoug_ | I want the canon d1 |
| 02:54.28 | Jormungandr | http://www.sacredcup.org/frcameron/gallery/ |
| 02:54.30 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:54.32 | bzdoug_ | I think thats who made it |
| 02:54.45 | bzdoug_ | its take photos at 11 Megapixel |
| 02:54.59 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 02:55.08 | bzdoug_ | now thats sweet |
| 02:55.09 | Jormungandr | I want an SLR camera with digital body. |
| 02:55.20 | bzdoug_ | hehe, so does my dad |
| 02:55.41 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:55.43 | bzdoug_ | he just got a 100 doller lense, and he aint gonna give it up |
| 02:55.48 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:56.03 | bzdoug_ | I have a relative, that has a digital camera |
| 02:56.12 | bzdoug_ | he takes over 100 photos aday |
| 02:56.22 | bzdoug_ | everyday when friends are over |
| 02:56.31 | bzdoug_ | about 20 photos a day everyday |
| 02:56.32 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:56.40 | bzdoug_ | hes strange... |
| 02:57.03 | bzdoug_ | wow |
| 02:57.19 | Jormungandr | ? |
| 02:57.21 | bzdoug_ | burned a cd in 3:24 |
| 02:57.24 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 02:57.25 | Jormungandr | cool. |
| 02:57.28 | bzdoug_ | now thats fast |
| 02:57.36 | Jormungandr | I take a lot of pics, but not hundreds every day. |
| 02:57.45 | bzdoug_ | hehe |
| 02:57.56 | Jormungandr | I'll take a few hundred in a day, but only when I am in that sort of mood. |
| 02:58.01 | bzdoug_ | haha |
| 02:58.05 | Jormungandr | I've been told I have a good eye. |
| 02:58.08 | bzdoug_ | he IS that mood |
| 02:58.11 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 02:58.11 | bzdoug_ | well |
| 02:58.21 | bzdoug_ | he takes photos of flowers from everyangle |
| 02:58.28 | bzdoug_ | and then steps back for one more |
| 02:58.33 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 02:58.37 | bzdoug_ | then turns around and does the same thing |
| 02:58.42 | Jormungandr | I am a "this inspires me" sort of person. |
| 02:58.57 | Jormungandr | and I take one (sometimes two) pics, and move on. |
| 02:59.00 | bzdoug_ | and NOBODY will ever see the photo at all, cuz he burns it and stores it away |
| 02:59.05 | Jormungandr | wow |
| 02:59.06 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 02:59.26 | Jormungandr | foot is falling asleep. |
| 02:59.33 | bzdoug_ | well, I DID get a min. to min. photo shoot cd once when I was down there |
| 02:59.36 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 02:59.56 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 03:00.24 | Noodleman | bzdoug_: take a look at this: http://www.noodleroni.com/got_gm.jpg |
| 03:01.02 | bzdoug_ | hahahaha |
| 03:01.13 | Jormungandr | so... still no answer... if we have +f FLAGID {number} now, does old way still work? |
| 03:01.15 | Noodleman | cool, eh? |
| 03:01.21 | bzdoug_ | very cool |
| 03:01.31 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: whats that? |
| 03:01.36 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: I suppose it does |
| 03:01.38 | Noodleman | i'm also working on another wallpaper |
| 03:01.45 | bzdoug_ | oh? |
| 03:01.49 | bzdoug_ | got laser? |
| 03:01.52 | bzdoug_ | got MG? |
| 03:01.55 | Noodleman | doesn't have anything to do with bz, but it's still funny :-) |
| 03:01.56 | Jormungandr | yer, prolly right... I just remembered that I didn't change my conf files, and they still work. |
| 03:01.58 | bzdoug_ | got V? |
| 03:02.01 | bzdoug_ | Noodleman: ahhh |
| 03:02.08 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: heh |
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| 03:02.46 | bzdoug_ | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 03:02.51 | Jormungandr | hi MACX |
| 03:02.54 | Jormungandr | -X |
| 03:02.55 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 03:03.09 | bzdoug_ | =) |
| 03:04.17 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 03:04.30 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: kul |
| 03:13.28 | Jormungandr | don't have a decent editor for man pages, so vi is going to have to do. :) |
| 03:15.55 | Jormungandr | I'll probably add an "Anti-cheating" section to explain some of the stuff you sent. |
| 03:16.17 | bzdoug_ | never, use emacs |
| 03:17.06 | Jormungandr | emacs is a pig. |
| 03:17.15 | bzdoug_ | VIM FOREVER! |
| 03:17.35 | Jormungandr | [mandrake@tiamat mandrake]$ which vi |
| 03:17.35 | Jormungandr | alias vi='vim' |
| 03:17.35 | Jormungandr | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.42 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 03:17.50 | bzdoug_ | I pick whatever comes to mind first |
| 03:17.52 | bzdoug_ | GEDIT! |
| 03:18.26 | Jormungandr | too slow. |
| 03:18.45 | bzdoug_ | debug! |
| 03:19.16 | Jormungandr | ed :) |
| 03:19.26 | bzdoug_ | ugh |
| 03:20.06 | Jormungandr | I had to use ed on my 3B1 |
| 03:21.02 | bzdoug_ | double ugh |
| 03:21.14 | Jormungandr | it was an ADVENTURE! |
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| 03:21.40 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 03:21.42 | bzdoug_ | oh well |
| 03:21.47 | Jormungandr | hi tim |
| 03:21.48 | bzdoug_ | off to do something |
| 03:21.51 | Jormungandr | okie |
| 03:22.51 | Jormungandr | so, ban should work with 111.111.111.*, 111.111.*.*, and 111.*.*.*, right? |
| 03:23.02 | bzdoug_ | and * |
| 03:23.07 | bzdoug_ | but thats useless |
| 03:23.08 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 03:23.10 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 03:23.26 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 03:24.33 | Jormungandr | it might be more proper (but less easy for n00bs to figure out) to ban by ipmask... 111.111.111/24, etc. |
| 03:24.45 | bzdoug_ | tea |
| 03:24.46 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 03:24.55 | bzdoug_ | but who cares about n00bs |
| 03:24.59 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 03:25.08 | Jormungandr | that way you can block a provider's 3 or 4 blocks without blocking whole /16, etc. |
| 03:25.16 | bzdoug_ | indeed |
| 03:26.43 | Jormungandr | I wonder if it'd be easier or harder to code than the way it is currently |
| 03:27.25 | Jormungandr | what does i18n stand for? |
| 03:27.41 | bzdoug_ | dunno |
| 03:27.48 | bzdoug_ | ~google for i18n |
| 03:27.49 | fiberchunks | internationalization |
| 04:05.36 | Noodleman | speaking of google, i tried out the google api, and it's cool :-) |
| 04:05.59 | Noodleman | http://www.noodleroni.com/search.php |
| 04:20.02 | Noodleman | i + 18 characters + n = internationalization |
| 04:21.48 | Jormungandr | thanks noodleman :) that is very helpful. |
| 04:21.55 | Jormungandr | I'm working on man page for bzfs. |
| 04:21.57 | Noodleman | yup :-) |
| 04:24.23 | Jormungandr | somehow it's l10n in the data dir of distribution. |
| 04:24.38 | Noodleman | that's localization |
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| 04:26.58 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 04:47.57 | MrApathyCream | l10n is localization |
| 04:48.20 | MrApathyCream | i18n is the process of making your software capable of supporting multiple languages |
| 04:48.29 | MrApathyCream | l10n is the process of applying one language |
| 04:53.34 | Jormungandr | cool. |
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| 05:07.55 | Patlabor221 | audacity is prety cool |
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| 05:26.52 | bzdoug_ | Patlabor221: I found out that the cd burner wont burn a 16x cd at 48x, it just refuses to |
| 05:27.01 | bzdoug_ | so I found some 32x cds, and it burns at 32x |
| 05:28.32 | Patlabor221 | ahhh sms is what you had |
| 05:32.57 | Patlabor221 | they do detect media |
| 05:33.06 | Patlabor221 | have the same problems on DVD Burners |
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| 06:03.55 | MrApathyCream | hey rae |
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| 06:05.39 | Patlabor221 | wow dvd burner for 179 |
| 06:05.40 | MrApathyCream | hey stash |
| 06:05.42 | Patlabor221 | nice price |
| 06:08.37 | Patlabor221 | :( |
| 06:09.21 | MrApathyCream | all that talent being used for evil |
| 06:09.27 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* |
| 06:09.33 | Patlabor221 | no not evil |
| 06:09.49 | Patlabor221 | just a difrent take on good |
| 06:09.53 | Patlabor221 | I turned it back on again |
| 06:10.05 | Patlabor221 | I want you to be able to kill yerself |
| 06:10.18 | MrApathyCream | stash, try redneck yet? |
| 06:10.44 | Patlabor221 | any my next change will also be made into a bz patch and I hope CVS |
| 06:10.54 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: ? |
| 06:11.09 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: redneck? |
| 06:11.14 | MrApathyCream | use_EN_redneck |
| 06:11.20 | MrApathyCream | er, us_EN_redneck |
| 06:11.22 | captain_proton | hah |
| 06:11.24 | Patlabor221 | gonna remove the tank geo from souce files and make it read from an obj file |
| 06:11.34 | Patlabor221 | and still read in the 5 parts |
| 06:11.46 | MrApathyCream | what kind of obj file? |
| 06:11.48 | Patlabor221 | I hope to make it read in n parts and explode in n parts |
| 06:11.49 | captain_proton | whoop |
| 06:11.57 | Patlabor221 | OBJ is a standard fomrat |
| 06:12.02 | Patlabor221 | most things export it |
| 06:12.07 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 06:12.23 | Patlabor221 | and it suports sub objects so I can keep they same type of "part" rendering that bz uses now |
| 06:12.30 | Patlabor221 | just get the data from somewhere else |
| 06:12.53 | Patlabor221 | I've made an app that has converted the normal tank to a multi-part obj allready |
| 06:13.37 | MrApathyCream | i wish i understood the current font system |
| 06:13.58 | MrApathyCream | i'sa sckeeared of it |
| 06:15.29 | Patlabor221 | it looks wacky |
| 06:20.43 | Patlabor221 | hmm where are all the sounds loaded? |
| 06:22.00 | MrApathyCream | platform/BZFMedia i think |
| 06:22.41 | Patlabor221 | allocAudioSamples |
| 06:45.43 | rae | OBJ is Wavefront I think |
| 06:46.02 | MrApathyCream | how goes cache ;) |
| 06:46.09 | rae | it's been around for ages |
| 06:46.38 | rae | I just checked in multi-button mouse support.. platforms can now have up to 9 mouse buttons. |
| 06:46.57 | rae | The patch has been around for a couple of weeks. It's pretty simple. |
| 06:47.25 | MrApathyCream | saw it |
| 06:47.40 | rae | I've also just checked in (in a separate batch) Mac changes that include implementing many-button support. |
| 06:48.04 | rae | Now, using my Logitech MX700 I can bind all 8 mouse buttons! W00t! |
| 06:48.19 | rae | Not the scroll wheel though.. |
| 06:49.39 | MrApathyCream | scroll wheel on win32 moves barrel up and down |
| 07:03.03 | rae | it does?!!? |
| 07:03.18 | MrApathyCream | just kiddin |
| 07:03.23 | rae | I didn't think you could do that. Do bullets have parabolic trajectories? |
| 07:03.26 | rae | *phew |
| 07:03.28 | rae | :-) |
| 07:03.29 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 07:03.46 | MrApathyCream | bullets always have constant z from tank, until they hit a pyramid |
| 07:04.07 | rae | I'm going to look at world caching now.. |
| 07:04.12 | MrApathyCream | woowooo |
| 07:04.38 | MrApathyCream | so does osx still use FSHOpen and all from the old days or is it all new stuff |
| 07:05.09 | rae | The FSSpec is old, now. FSRef is the new, better way.. |
| 07:05.31 | rae | FSRef can handle Unicode filenames of indeterminent length |
| 07:05.43 | MrApathyCream | as opposed to 32... ah the good ol days |
| 07:05.50 | rae | Ya, heh. |
| 07:05.55 | MrApathyCream | colons still the separator? |
| 07:05.58 | rae | There are functions to convert between.. |
| 07:06.00 | rae | Sort of. |
| 07:06.07 | rae | unix uses '/' of course. |
| 07:06.13 | rae | But the Mac HFS calls use : |
| 07:06.18 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:06.31 | rae | The Finder displays ':' in Unix files as '/' and.. vice-versa. |
| 07:06.39 | rae | weird, really. |
| 07:06.51 | MrApathyCream | that's moofed up |
| 07:21.04 | Patlabor221 | then I will put a missle in there |
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| 07:23.47 | [dmp] | "Slow Keyboard Motion:" & "controls tank motion" .. what is this used for? (from the translationfile) |
| 07:24.42 | MrApathyCream | as keys are either on or off, by default you either are stopped or full speed |
| 07:24.51 | MrApathyCream | Slow Keyboard motion allows an inbetween |
| 07:25.02 | [dmp] | ah |
| 07:25.31 | MrApathyCream | controls Tank Motion is just the description for using the mouse |
| 07:26.32 | [dmp] | okey |
| 07:26.41 | [dmp] | is it possible to test the translation, somehow? |
| 07:27.00 | [dmp] | to check the text "in context" |
| 07:27.24 | MrApathyCream | if you have latest cvs yes |
| 07:27.40 | MrApathyCream | just add it to the data\l10n directory |
| 07:28.05 | MrApathyCream | if you're not set up to compile you can get a win32 binary from my site. |
| 07:28.11 | MrApathyCream | if your on unix, well, dunno |
| 07:28.37 | [dmp] | i use win32 for bzflag so thats not a problem |
| 07:28.50 | MrApathyCream | i have the latest then, if you like: |
| 07:29.15 | MrApathyCream | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/1.7g1/bzfinst.exe |
| 07:29.20 | MrApathyCream | just built a few mins ago |
| 07:29.37 | [dmp] | downloading. |
| 07:29.38 | MrApathyCream | Just install it, and add your file to the data\l10n dir |
| 07:30.04 | MrApathyCream | [dmp]: that bz may have some bugs in it, as it's not a release, so caveat emptor |
| 07:30.18 | MrApathyCream | but danish should work |
| 07:30.18 | [dmp] | btw: this installer, does it stille make an "BZFLag" entry in "add/remove programs" list? I mean, i have 3 differetn versions, but they are all called "BZFlag" |
| 07:30.20 | [dmp] | sure |
| 07:30.34 | MrApathyCream | Yes, makes entry |
| 07:30.58 | MrApathyCream | but this one will be g1 |
| 07:31.25 | MrApathyCream | You can do uninstall from program group |
| 07:31.46 | MrApathyCream | [dmp] btw, currently bz doesn't handle accented chars. |
| 07:32.00 | MrApathyCream | I'd prefer if you use them, that you add them to the dict file |
| 07:32.10 | MrApathyCream | And i will temporarily strip them dynamically in the proggy |
| 07:32.33 | [dmp] | okey. this goes for danish characters as well? |
| 07:33.25 | [dmp] | in my program group i have "BZFlag", "BZFlag (remove only)", and "BZFlag (remove only)" .. i wonder which is what :-) |
| 07:33.36 | [dmp] | danish chars: (æøå/ÆØÅ) |
| 07:33.47 | MrApathyCream | ok, i'll add them to the list |
| 07:34.00 | MrApathyCream | what english char should i translate them too? |
| 07:34.11 | MrApathyCream | aoa? |
| 07:34.50 | [dmp] | æ = ae, æ = oe, å == aa |
| 07:34.56 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:34.57 | [dmp] | opps .. æ = ae, ø = oe, å == aa |
| 07:35.00 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:38.22 | [dmp] | heh.. it sure looks strange :-) |
| 07:38.47 | MrApathyCream | works tho? |
| 07:39.06 | [dmp] | yeah |
| 07:39.19 | MrApathyCream | sw33t |
| 07:39.30 | [dmp] | except for æøå/etc.. |
| 07:39.45 | [dmp] | when do you expect/hoping to have the translations |
| 07:40.15 | MrApathyCream | Well i think we're planning to cut a g2 release soon, perhaps in 2 weeks |
| 07:40.24 | MrApathyCream | just a guess., but ideally i'd like to have them by then |
| 07:41.00 | MrApathyCream | ok, i'm accent challenged... How do you type them? |
| 07:41.24 | MrApathyCream | how do you type å, for instance |
| 07:41.44 | [dmp] | i have a key which is "å" just as "a" |
| 07:41.49 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 07:41.50 | [dmp] | (we have a differnt keyboard layout) |
| 07:41.56 | MrApathyCream | thought you were typing octal codes ;) |
| 07:42.01 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 07:42.40 | [dmp] | it's kinda annoyning.. 'cause when coding, the danish keyboard layout isnt really good for making alot for {[]) (you need to press alt/shift 7 or 8) |
| 07:42.42 | MrApathyCream | can you give me the capital form of this line |
| 07:42.45 | MrApathyCream | æ = ae, ø = oe, å == aa |
| 07:42.48 | MrApathyCream | so i can copy paste |
| 07:42.55 | [dmp] | yes |
| 07:43.16 | [dmp] | Æ = Ae, Ø = Oe, Å = Aa |
| 07:48.22 | MrApathyCream | code checked in to handle danish special chars |
| 07:49.22 | MrApathyCream | Hopefully scanline will have pity on us, and fix the fonts for us |
| 07:49.38 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:49.46 | captain_proton | ftgl doesn't yet do unicode |
| 07:49.58 | MrApathyCream | i don't want unicode, i just want accented chars |
| 07:50.19 | MrApathyCream | well unicode would be nice... but accented is all i need |
| 07:51.44 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: what would you say should be the way bzfs finds the data directory, if it wanted to do so? |
| 07:52.14 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: bzfs finds data directory? |
| 07:52.25 | MrApathyCream | no not now... but if it did... |
| 07:53.10 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: same flag as bzflag -- -directory |
| 07:53.27 | MrApathyCream | how bout if not specified. |
| 07:53.54 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: use the same method as bzflag does |
| 07:54.04 | captain_proton | compile in a path using the same config as bzflag |
| 07:54.10 | captain_proton | and check current directories |
| 07:54.13 | MrApathyCream | That method is platform, a non-linked lib for bzfs |
| 07:54.26 | MrApathyCream | duplicate? |
| 07:54.38 | captain_proton | sure |
| 07:54.49 | captain_proton | . o O (why do you ask?) |
| 07:55.03 | MrApathyCream | i18n server messages based on locale of client |
| 07:55.13 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 07:55.16 | captain_proton | kinda gross |
| 07:55.17 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, wait |
| 07:55.21 | MrApathyCream | maybe just do that on client |
| 07:55.27 | captain_proton | thats what i'd do |
| 07:55.29 | MrApathyCream | yes, i'm an idiot |
| 07:55.45 | captain_proton | that way the client can have extra locales installed that the server may not |
| 07:55.56 | MrApathyCream | ye |
| 07:56.00 | MrApathyCream | stupid |
| 07:56.23 | MrApathyCream | ~halibut_slap MrApathyCream |
| 07:56.28 | HPP | We just had a creative cheater on hashmark -- He was moving while paused. I've never seen that before |
| 07:56.35 | MrApathyCream | CERN[x] ? |
| 07:56.55 | MrApathyCream | saw that last nite too |
| 07:57.11 | MrApathyCream | Probably just doesn't send PlayerUpdates |
| 07:59.11 | Patlabor221 | now that was a horible horible movie |
| 07:59.18 | captain_proton | battlefield earth? |
| 07:59.33 | Patlabor221 | ya |
| 07:59.51 | captain_proton | you mean you don't appreciate L. Ron Hubbard's religious symbolism? |
| 08:00.01 | Patlabor221 | ohh I read the book |
| 08:00.03 | Patlabor221 | it was pasable |
| 08:00.13 | Patlabor221 | but the movie |
| 08:00.15 | Patlabor221 | horible |
| 08:00.47 | MrApathyCream | rae, what needs doing clear? |
| 08:01.09 | rae | looking good.. |
| 08:01.18 | rae | trying to compile my getCacheDir stuff |
| 08:01.24 | MrApathyCream | kul |
| 08:01.54 | rae | Also fixed some absolute paths I had in settings of project file -- another Mac person complained they couldn't compile. They should be happy now. |
| 08:02.23 | MrApathyCream | saw that |
| 08:03.18 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 08:03.19 | rae | it's 3:03am here.. *yawn* |
| 08:03.27 | MrApathyCream | A common song sung here, as well |
| 08:03.40 | MrApathyCream | likewise 3:03 |
| 08:03.47 | rae | Does BZFlag render all objects that use the same texture in one go? |
| 08:03.54 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 08:03.58 | rae | I thought I saw code setting the texture for every single object, but wasn't sure. |
| 08:04.06 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 08:04.13 | rae | Yikes. Isn't that tres expensive? |
| 08:04.20 | captain_proton | rae: yep |
| 08:04.21 | rae | OpenGL state changes are to be avoided at all costs. |
| 08:04.28 | captain_proton | one reason why the 1.8 engine was faster |
| 08:04.34 | MrApathyCream | ~emulate BZFlag |
| 08:04.36 | | ACTION sits hacking on blootbot, bzflag, tuxscreen, eLinux, and many other projects and mutters "Patches Welcome!" |
| 08:04.45 | rae | Doesn't matter on most machines these days, but my poor old AT Rage pro 128 has serious problems on the bigger maps. |
| 08:05.03 | rae | What happened with 1.8? i missed all that. |
| 08:05.04 | captain_proton | rae: thats probably more an issue with fill rate than state changes |
| 08:05.17 | Patlabor221 | actulay some states mater even on current hardware |
| 08:05.20 | Patlabor221 | depends on the drivers |
| 08:05.24 | MrApathyCream | rae, too much too fast...kizzion broken features. |
| 08:05.27 | Patlabor221 | some drivers flush on a sate change |
| 08:05.41 | MrApathyCream | programming ceased as everything was busted |
| 08:06.02 | rae | so a more evolutionary approach is going to be taken instead? |
| 08:06.03 | MrApathyCream | most likely will get there (most anyway) just in smaller controllable steps |
| 08:06.07 | captain_proton | and most people didn't want to learn the new codebase* |
| 08:06.12 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 08:06.23 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream>: Like debugging yacc output |
| 08:07.41 | rae | Hm, doesn't look like my code got called. I put an fprintf(stderr..) in there and it did not show in the log. |
| 08:07.58 | rae | I suspect "macintosh" is not a valid #ifdef to use. I'll have to look at it tomorrow.. |
| 08:08.01 | rae | time for bed. |
| 08:08.04 | MrApathyCream | nite |
| 08:08.05 | rae | gn all |
| 08:15.07 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm I wonder what is wrong with the sound files from MAC, that bz won't load them |
| 08:15.48 | MrApathyCream | sounds are VERY finicky |
| 08:15.56 | MrApathyCream | you need to resample them to a specific format |
| 08:16.01 | Patlabor221 | I did that |
| 08:16.11 | Patlabor221 | still I think it wants a specific version of wav too |
| 08:16.12 | MrApathyCream | look in the code for what it sposed to be |
| 08:16.30 | MrApathyCream | plus, BZ tends to mangle the sound some |
| 08:16.33 | Patlabor221 | 16 bit 22.05 khz sterio |
| 08:21.27 | MrApathyCream | if only we had ogg, oh well... I guess no one will ever get to it |
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| 08:30.10 | MrApathyCream | Aye, Dukolax admins a online gaming for addicts bb |
| 08:31.13 | Patlabor221 | does he just love to comment on EVERYING? |
| 08:32.28 | proton-onyx2 | Patlabor221: apparently |
| 08:33.06 | proton-onyx2 | he doesn't seem to be able to distinguish between "addict" and "joker" |
| 08:33.44 | Patlabor221 | that and his tone allways seem to be looking down at others, like he is telling you how it is. |
| 08:35.06 | Patlabor221 | ohh he is NOT a programer |
| 08:35.15 | Patlabor221 | VB is not a real language |
| 08:36.23 | proton-onyx2 | Patlabor221: shhh. better not offend him |
| 08:36.28 | Patlabor221 | why not? |
| 08:36.38 | Patlabor221 | when was the first verisonof CVS? |
| 08:37.14 | Patlabor221 | cus I know we've been using some form of CVS type thing since like 88, I would asume that there was CVS type stuff back then |
| 08:41.05 | proton-onyx2 | well the first entry in the RCS changelog is 1990 |
| 08:41.31 | proton-onyx2 | although thats gnu's rcs |
| 08:41.36 | proton-onyx2 | quite a bit of history before that |
| 08:41.53 | Patlabor221 | yeah I was prety sure it's older |
| 08:42.34 | proton-onyx2 | i think RCS dates all the way back to system 4 or so |
| 08:43.22 | proton-onyx2 | looks like the first revision control system was released in 1975 |
| 08:43.29 | proton-onyx2 | RCS first came out in 85 |
| 08:43.33 | proton-onyx2 | CVS out in 86 |
| 08:43.43 | Patlabor221 | coo thanks |
| 08:46.01 | proton-onyx2 | sticking one to dukolax? |
| 08:46.28 | MrApathyCream | yes, do |
| 08:46.29 | Patlabor221 | just proving what an idiot and amature he is |
| 08:47.32 | Patlabor221 | what is the linux kernel moving from CVS to? |
| 08:47.34 | Patlabor221 | it's not SVN |
| 08:47.54 | MrApathyCream | crs mentioned some new one, what was it.?.. |
| 08:48.01 | Patlabor221 | B something? |
| 08:49.00 | MrApathyCream | perforce |
| 08:49.40 | proton-onyx2 | linux kernel uses bitkeeper iirc |
| 08:50.30 | proton-onyx2 | seems like crs' argument for perforce is but a singleton in the list of arguments for svn >:) |
| 08:54.53 | Patlabor221 | what does svn need on a web server to work? |
| 08:54.57 | Patlabor221 | DAC or something? |
| 08:56.00 | proton-onyx2 | WebDAV |
| 08:56.06 | Patlabor221 | what does that do? |
| 08:56.19 | proton-onyx2 | its an extension to the HTTP protocol to support versioning commands |
| 08:56.57 | Patlabor221 | well suposedly IIS duports it |
| 08:57.10 | proton-onyx2 | probably |
| 08:57.20 | proton-onyx2 | apache2 has the best support so thats what SVN requires by default |
| 08:57.37 | proton-onyx2 | although svn does have other methods that don't rely on dav |
| 08:58.49 | Patlabor221 | I'm lookin to see if there is any info on people trying it on IIS |
| 08:59.03 | proton-onyx2 | why would you run it on IIS anyway? apache2 is a lot slimmer |
| 08:59.18 | Patlabor221 | cus IIS was a) installed b) configured |
| 08:59.35 | Patlabor221 | and nothing else happend on that machine |
| 09:01.09 | Patlabor221 | to I may change it to get SVN installed |
| 09:02.01 | Patlabor221 | ohhh, it says it uses the Apache Portable Runtime |
| 09:02.11 | Patlabor221 | I'm thinkin that's not gonna work with IIS |
| 09:02.41 | Patlabor221 | well I've allways wanted 5 machines undermy desk anyway :) |
| 09:17.20 | Patlabor221 | napy time |
| 09:17.32 | MrApathyCream | mee too |
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| 12:32.00 | [dmp] | the translationfiles (.po) - anybody into them their format? |
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| 12:44.50 | [TeA|TrEE] | HeLLo |
| 12:49.30 | [dmp] | hi |
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| 13:11.29 | [dmp] | "BZFlag is a multi-player networked tank battle game. There are five teams: red, green, blue, purple, and rogues (rogue tanks are black). " .. black? arent they yellow? |
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| 13:14.44 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 13:16.43 | sussudio | how about a command that does clientquery on a server, if there's anyone < 1.7e4 i wont bother joining a server |
| 13:16.55 | sussudio | e6 even |
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| 13:53.31 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
| 13:53.43 | sussudio | bah |
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| 13:58.04 | calico | tea? |
| 13:58.10 | sussudio | pig? |
| 13:58.15 | calico | lol? |
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| 14:14.47 | Wilinckx | quol? |
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| 14:16.31 | Quol | hello all |
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| 15:04.48 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 15:04.53 | sussudio | grr |
| 15:04.56 | [TeA|TrEE] | grr |
| 15:05.09 | [TeA|TrEE] | harr harr |
| 15:05.10 | sussudio | are the e2 and e4 idiots gone? |
| 15:05.18 | [TeA|TrEE] | dunno`? |
| 15:05.44 | sussudio | kkkk: Version 1.7e4+UDP |
| 15:05.55 | sussudio | kevin: Version 1.7e2+UDP |
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| 15:19.39 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
| 15:19.45 | [TeA|TrEE] | ooooooh |
| 15:19.51 | [TeA|TrEE] | sussudeo kkkk was around with e4 |
| 15:20.00 | [TeA|TrEE] | sussudio |
| 15:20.09 | sussudio | :-| |
| 15:20.26 | sussudio | the pig |
| 15:21.35 | [TeA|TrEE] | the swine |
| 15:21.40 | [TeA|TrEE] | :B |
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| 15:29.08 | sussudio | GROAN |
| 15:29.35 | sussudio | litl' nipper : 692ms (9) |
| 15:29.41 | sussudio | FERNY: Version 1.7e4+UDP |
| 15:29.55 | sussudio | trent (Red Team): not responding |
| 15:29.55 | sussudio | FERNY (Red Team): not responding |
| 15:29.55 | sussudio | jraitala (Green Team): not responding |
| 15:29.55 | sussudio | [BiPs]BaDiN (Red Team): not responding |
| 15:29.55 | sussudio | dukes (Green Team): not responding |
| 15:29.56 | sussudio | flip (Green Team): not responding |
| 15:33.35 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 15:33.54 | [TeA|TrEE] | who is littl`nipper |
| 15:34.15 | sussudio | littl lagger |
| 15:34.38 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
| 16:02.13 | Chestal | anyone alive? |
| 16:03.04 | sussudio | no. |
| 16:03.57 | Chestal | too bad, if you were you could join ducati 59500 for a test |
| 16:04.28 | sussudio | y |
| 16:06.35 | sussudio | your bzfs is on crack |
| 16:06.47 | [TeA|TrEE] | yes |
| 16:08.44 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 16:08.47 | [TeA|TrEE] | Chestal |
| 16:08.55 | [TeA|TrEE] | tank moving to fast , update ure client |
| 16:09.31 | [TeA|TrEE] | server forced to disconect u |
| 16:09.32 | [TeA|TrEE] | ... |
| 16:10.27 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:59500 |
| 16:10.33 | Chestal | hmm, just a moment, I'm busy |
| 16:10.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmm? |
| 16:10.43 | Chestal | woudl check this again later if you;re still around |
| 16:11.07 | [TeA|TrEE] | jaja |
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| 16:11.40 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 16:19.33 | Chestal | tea: care to join 59500 again? |
| 16:19.44 | scanline | captain_proton: ping |
| 16:19.59 | Chestal | or someone else |
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| 16:41.20 | hardwire | hi |
| 16:42.45 | Chestal | anyone available for a test on ducati.bzflag.org 59500? |
| 16:44.39 | sussudio | :-| |
| 16:46.11 | sussudio | grrrr |
| 16:49.08 | Chestal | hmm |
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| 16:55.51 | [dmp] | still need somebody chestal? |
| 16:56.46 | Chestal | not right now, I'm looking at the code,maybe in a few minutes |
| 16:58.15 | Chestal | now, if you want |
| 16:58.53 | [dmp] | ok |
| 17:00.26 | Chestal | sus: you got kicked? can you join again? |
| 17:00.48 | sussudio | ... |
| 17:01.58 | hardwire | :) |
| 17:03.26 | sussudio | grrrrrmmpppffff |
| 17:03.39 | Chestal | hmm, interesting |
| 17:03.44 | Chestal | what were you doing when getting kciked? |
| 17:03.52 | Chestal | kicking Player booger [3]: tank too fast 37.518622/-35.649757/11.693666 37.500000 |
| 17:04.04 | Chestal | you were driving at 37.5186 instead of max. 37.5, I wonder how this can happen |
| 17:04.05 | sussudio | high speed, turn jump |
| 17:04.19 | Chestal | got kicked when touching ground? |
| 17:04.24 | sussudio | in air |
| 17:04.31 | Chestal | ok |
| 17:04.44 | Chestal | will have to think about that |
| 17:06.28 | sussudio | sigh. |
| 17:07.21 | sussudio | oh.........fffffffffff it |
| 17:09.15 | Chestal | hehe, you are a cheater ;-) |
| 17:09.34 | sussudio | ~pig Chestal |
| 17:09.39 | | Chestal is 60% pig! |
| 17:09.51 | hardwire | ~pig hardwire |
| 17:09.53 | | hardwire is 40% pig! |
| 17:09.58 | hardwire | :) |
| 17:10.01 | sussudio | together you're a whole pig |
| 17:10.06 | hardwire | that means I am lean |
| 17:11.45 | Chestal | sussudio: what bzflag version are you using on what operatign system? |
| 17:11.58 | sussudio | g0 windoze....... |
| 17:12.28 | Chestal | jzaun, dmp: you? |
| 17:13.05 | Chestal | suss: can you join once more? |
| 17:13.28 | sussudio | ... |
| 17:13.35 | Chestal | no kicks this time :-) |
| 17:17.54 | sussudio | 235fps was max |
| 17:18.00 | Chestal | hmm, what did you do just before leaving? |
| 17:18.04 | Chestal | got some very high speed values then |
| 17:18.10 | Chestal | 37.56 was max. |
| 17:18.12 | sussudio | dunno? jump and shoot |
| 17:18.38 | Chestal | interesting, hmm |
| 17:18.56 | Chestal | will look for someone else with Windows |
| 17:19.01 | Chestal | which windows is it? |
| 17:19.06 | sussudio | 2000 |
| 17:19.24 | Chestal | processor? |
| 17:19.34 | sussudio | athlon 800........................... |
| 17:19.48 | sussudio | 2os[Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 3 (5.0 - 2195)] 2uptime[4d 23h 13m 44s] 2cpu[1-AMD Athlon K7, 799MHz, 512KB] 2mem[Usage: 244/1024MB (23.83%) [||--------]] |
| 17:21.10 | sussudio | 2screen[800x600 32bit 100Hz] |
| 17:21.26 | sussudio | 2Network Interfaces[#1 (3Com 3C90x Ethernet Adapter (10Mb/s) 312.62MB In, 28.32MB Out)] |
| 17:22.53 | scanline | 800x600? |
| 17:22.59 | sussudio | what |
| 17:23.07 | scanline | kind of.. low-res |
| 17:23.14 | sussudio | so.. bite me |
| 17:26.38 | hardwire | Windows 2000 Professional? |
| 17:26.52 | hardwire | Service Pack 3! |
| 17:27.02 | hardwire | "5.0 -2195" |
| 17:27.03 | hardwire | how could you |
| 17:29.49 | *** join/#bzflag Big_Barrel (Big_Barrel@ACA8196B.ipt.aol.com) |
| 17:30.34 | Big_Barrel | anyone want a match with Hell On Wheels?? |
| 17:32.08 | sussudio | Smell On Wheels? |
| 17:40.33 | *** join/#bzflag Nid (~cj@ip68-99-227-92.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 17:42.44 | Jormie | Well, I seem to have a fixed aim2irc solution. |
| 17:44.14 | Jormie | Tried using on my linux server and it failed. Have ot working on my mac shell, at home though. |
| 17:48.42 | *** join/#bzflag Comanche (Comanche@dialin-212-144-131-068.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:57.59 | *** join/#bzflag anotherScanline (~micah@12-252-164-11.client.attbi.com) |
| 18:01.53 | *** join/#bzflag Wilinckx (~Wilinckx@u212-239-222-59.adsl.pi.be) |
| 18:02.41 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@24.156.129.90) |
| 18:02.49 | bzgirl | hello |
| 18:03.39 | Wilinckx | does someone know a nice map for a server with max 5 players? |
| 18:07.04 | calico | hi |
| 18:07.35 | Chestal | hi, someone using windows up for a test on ducati 59500? |
| 18:07.52 | sussudio | :-| |
| 18:07.57 | Chestal | not you :-) |
| 18:09.05 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@p508034AB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:09.11 | *** join/#bzflag jneves (~Really@a213-22-85-147.netcabo.pt) |
| 18:11.24 | *** join/#bzflag Fhwqugads (~jeffm@adsl-64-167-79-140.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 18:12.54 | Chestal | anyone (except sussudio) here on windows which could join ducati.bzflag.org 59500? |
| 18:14.05 | Fhwqugads | in |
| 18:19.42 | sussudio | does it check if you go too fast if you dont have V |
| 18:25.06 | Chestal | yes |
| 18:25.15 | sussudio | how fast did i go |
| 18:26.20 | Fhwqugads | 0.5C |
| 18:27.26 | scanline | does that affect your team color? |
| 18:28.48 | Fhwqugads | yes |
| 18:29.15 | Fhwqugads | hmmm the flag drop HS jump thing would not be a problem if the server tracked your flag |
| 18:29.39 | Fhwqugads | and your inAir/OnGround state |
| 18:30.00 | Fhwqugads | and why the hell am I named Fhwqugads? |
| 18:30.21 | sussudio | dunno, blame your parents or something |
| 18:30.27 | Patlabor221 | naw |
| 18:30.40 | Patlabor221 | they just used the most popular name of 1972 |
| 18:30.49 | sussudio | on mars? |
| 18:30.54 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 18:31.12 | Patlabor221 | considering I was suposed to be a girl, and they didn't have a name ready |
| 18:31.45 | scanline | or they could have been even more trendy and given you the girl name |
| 18:32.02 | Patlabor221 | my parents are anything but trendy |
| 18:35.06 | *** join/#bzflag PerfectCell (~booble@pD95907B1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:35.18 | scanline | PerfectCell: feeling Trendy (tm) today? |
| 18:35.24 | PerfectCell | currently 3 pc's online |
| 18:36.03 | scanline | wow, 3 PCs, that's definitely Trendy |
| 18:36.19 | PerfectCell | did not say that, phew |
| 18:36.41 | scanline | that's ok man, it's all Trendy! |
| 18:36.42 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@24.156.129.90) |
| 18:37.30 | PerfectCell | lol, like the 32k games |
| 18:37.39 | scanline | naw man, even more trendy! |
| 18:37.47 | scanline | PerfectCell, the trendiest! |
| 18:39.30 | PerfectCell | scanline: you are my easy small snugglemouse |
| 18:39.48 | scanline | take that, trendy beast! |
| 18:39.51 | scanline | +20 XP |
| 18:41.00 | PerfectCell | DSDS |
| 18:44.20 | PerfectCell | scanline:you are like an empty coke box infront of the discount |
| 18:44.34 | scanline | good idea |
| 18:46.48 | Patlabor221 | snugglye mouse? |
| 18:47.02 | Patlabor221 | and I say he's worth more then 20xp |
| 18:47.04 | PerfectCell | yeah |
| 18:47.19 | Patlabor221 | scan did you get any new spells? |
| 18:47.32 | Patlabor221 | infront of the discount what? |
| 18:47.57 | PerfectCell | cheap food store |
| 18:48.04 | Patlabor221 | I got enough to get this new shotgun, that I can use this level. |
| 18:48.52 | scanline | Patlabor221: I got the Amulet of Terrain Generation Aptitude |
| 18:48.58 | Patlabor221 | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 18:49.23 | Patlabor221 | that should be usefull on the adventure |
| 18:49.23 | *** join/#bzflag Headhunter (~Headhunte@p50851F20.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:49.23 | Headhunter | hi @all ! |
| 18:49.23 | Patlabor221 | exspcialy against that damned lich |
| 18:49.49 | PerfectCell | leech |
| 18:49.53 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 18:49.54 | Patlabor221 | lich |
| 18:50.02 | Headhunter | got a question : how can i switch bzflag to fullscreen on my gentoo linux ? |
| 18:50.50 | Patlabor221 | should allways run full screen if it can, when you don't have the -window switch set |
| 18:52.09 | Headhunter | Patlabor221: no, it starts in 640*480 windowed. if is change resolution in ~/.bzflag it does not affect the game *at all*. resolution is (per default) 1024*768 @85 (same as my x server) |
| 18:52.14 | PerfectCell | loosers |
| 18:53.42 | PerfectCell | hoppe is part of it |
| 18:54.01 | Patlabor221 | ick, what vid card you have |
| 18:54.35 | PerfectCell | gf4!!! |
| 18:54.39 | Headhunter | gf3, 3d games normally work. i do have 3d acceleration in bzflag :) |
| 18:55.00 | Patlabor221 | you have latest drivers and openGL stuff? |
| 18:55.33 | *** part/#bzflag PerfectCell (~booble@pD95907B1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:56.00 | Headhunter | sure i do : * media-video/nvidia-glx |
| 18:56.00 | Headhunter | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.00 | Headhunter | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.10 | Patlabor221 | odd then |
| 18:56.12 | Patlabor221 | it should work |
| 18:56.15 | Headhunter | ;) |
| 18:56.34 | Patlabor221 | unless something is preventing the context to be made |
| 18:56.58 | Headhunter | nope, glxgears worx ! |
| 18:57.20 | Patlabor221 | only thing you can do is debug it and see why it's not goin full screen |
| 18:57.24 | Headhunter | well then, how can i make a "fullscreen windowed" window (=> a maximised window) |
| 18:57.56 | Patlabor221 | -window -geometry HSIZExVSIZE |
| 18:58.12 | Patlabor221 | like -window -geometry 800x600 |
| 18:58.47 | Headhunter | jeah, somethin like that ! thx ! |
| 18:59.09 | Headhunter | do you play bzflag with mouse or keyboard ? |
| 18:59.21 | Patlabor221 | both :) |
| 18:59.31 | fiberchunks | keyboard for |
| 18:59.42 | fiberchunks | me -- afternoon, evening, morning all |
| 18:59.59 | Patlabor221 | hey fiber |
| 19:00.00 | Headhunter | but you don't use the default key/mousemapping, do you ? |
| 19:00.03 | bzgirl | hi fiberchunks |
| 19:00.08 | Patlabor221 | I sorta do |
| 19:00.34 | Patlabor221 | but then I don't use the default bzflag much these days |
| 19:00.47 | Headhunter | Patlabor221: :-? |
| 19:01.03 | Patlabor221 | something "difrent" |
| 19:01.10 | Headhunter | cheater ? |
| 19:01.15 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 19:01.17 | Headhunter | 1.8 ? |
| 19:01.27 | Patlabor221 | Fiber can I have a forum for my "something difrent" |
| 19:01.37 | Patlabor221 | head, I don't want to say much about it just yet |
| 19:01.49 | Headhunter | developer ? have you created your own mod ?? |
| 19:01.56 | Headhunter | ok then... |
| 19:01.59 | Patlabor221 | of sorts |
| 19:02.00 | Headhunter | :) |
| 19:02.18 | Headhunter | what is latitude37.500000 |
| 19:02.19 | Headhunter | longitude122.000000 |
| 19:02.21 | Headhunter | ? |
| 19:02.25 | Patlabor221 | not as vulgar as stuff like Cell's cheat |
| 19:02.34 | Patlabor221 | it's for the position of the sun and moon |
| 19:02.41 | Headhunter | cool ! |
| 19:08.39 | Patlabor221 | oh joy time to go mow a lawn |
| 19:09.03 | fiberchunks | heya bzgirl |
| 19:09.20 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: what? something different? |
| 19:09.38 | fiberchunks | ah, I get it -- /msg me, or pm me in the forum |
| 19:10.13 | fiberchunks | Headhunter: no, I don't use the defaults |
| 19:10.58 | fiberchunks | am i just talking to myself? |
| 19:11.49 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.57 | fiberchunks | ah, someone else |
| 19:12.02 | scanline | fiberchunks: |
| 19:12.03 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.04 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.26 | Patlabor221 | yes, little yellow difrent |
| 19:12.33 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.44 | Patlabor221 | and any ideas for a real name for the boody thing? |
| 19:13.03 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.13 | fiberchunks | do away with the uber marketing Xtreme garbage -- |
| 19:13.20 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:13.28 | Patlabor221 | that I what I want to do |
| 19:13.38 | Patlabor221 | it was just the onlything I could think of that day |
| 19:13.50 | fiberchunks | hrm -- bzflag+ (name it like a language |
| 19:13.56 | Patlabor221 | BZ++ |
| 19:14.01 | fiberchunks | there it is |
| 19:14.02 | Patlabor221 | that wold be bzflat 2 |
| 19:14.14 | fiberchunks | CAA |
| 19:14.21 | scanline | BZ# :P |
| 19:14.24 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 19:14.32 | fiberchunks | bz.net |
| 19:14.38 | Patlabor221 | no then I would have to slow it down, and make it only run on 1 os |
| 19:14.43 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 19:14.45 | scanline | BZ#.NET++ 2000 XP Professional |
| 19:14.47 | Patlabor221 | and leak 12 megs of memory a min |
| 19:15.20 | fiberchunks | JMBZf2k03 |
| 19:15.25 | scanline | that's for Smart Undo (tm) |
| 19:15.38 | Patlabor221 | undo your last death? |
| 19:15.45 | Patlabor221 | copy and paste shots |
| 19:15.56 | fiberchunks | click and drag tanks |
| 19:16.00 | Patlabor221 | I'll think about it whilst mowing :( |
| 19:16.09 | fiberchunks | hey, wait a minute |
| 19:16.12 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 19:16.30 | fiberchunks | I don't mind -- but give me some info as to how you'd like it setup (private, public, etc) |
| 19:16.43 | Patlabor221 | oh public |
| 19:16.44 | fiberchunks | or just blast me an email about it bzbb-admin@snet.net |
| 19:16.50 | Patlabor221 | like the jetsteam ones |
| 19:17.07 | fiberchunks | mkay -- pick a name, and let me know when you're ready |
| 19:17.08 | Patlabor221 | moslty I'd just realy like a place for anouncments and sugestions |
| 19:17.26 | Patlabor221 | I shall think of one, but if you get any like kick ass ideas let me know |
| 19:17.31 | fiberchunks | k |
| 19:17.40 | fiberchunks | 'house of pain' |
| 19:17.50 | Patlabor221 | I'll be setting it up on a CVS type system soon |
| 19:17.51 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-1-87.stny.rr.com) |
| 19:17.54 | fiberchunks | featuring ass-master, and the side-stepping wonder boys |
| 19:17.55 | Patlabor221 | no that would be a map name |
| 19:17.56 | calico | chestal |
| 19:18.01 | calico | you here |
| 19:18.05 | Patlabor221 | he has left |
| 19:18.47 | Patlabor221 | I'll ponder |
| 19:18.48 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 19:18.49 | fiberchunks | Foo Dust 1.0 |
| 19:18.58 | fiberchunks | cya |
| 19:19.07 | Patlabor221 | I'd like BZFlag or at least BZ in the name somewhere |
| 19:24.00 | *** join/#bzflag Rembo (~remco@seesink.kabel.utwente.nl) |
| 19:27.01 | fiberchunks | ~ducatictf |
| 19:27.23 | sussudio | snort. |
| 19:27.24 | fiberchunks | ~turkey.moongroup.com |
| 19:27.29 | sussudio | x |
| 19:27.47 | fiberchunks | hrm... |
| 19:27.49 | fiberchunks | ~turkey |
| 19:27.51 | | bzfquery turkey.moongroup.com 7500 |
| 19:27.54 | sussudio | that's enough for me, the laggers were aggravating. |
| 19:28.02 | fiberchunks | where? |
| 19:28.05 | sussudio | ducati |
| 19:28.05 | *** part/#bzflag Comanche (Comanche@dialin-212-144-131-068.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:28.09 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 19:28.17 | sussudio | still i was #2. |
| 19:28.23 | sussudio | despite "huh" and the other laggers |
| 19:28.29 | fiberchunks | how do I do a _long_ bzfquery on turkey? |
| 19:28.39 | sussudio | turkey doesnt like to be queried |
| 19:28.47 | sussudio | ~bzfquery turkey.moongroup.com 7500 |
| 19:28.55 | fiberchunks | ah, thanks |
| 19:29.32 | fiberchunks | woohoo, my new laptop is on the way :) |
| 19:29.41 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E9541B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:29.46 | sussudio | i dont like laptops much |
| 19:29.49 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 19:29.53 | sussudio | tft gives me a headache |
| 19:31.51 | fiberchunks | uxga screen |
| 19:32.06 | fiberchunks | @ 1600x1200 |
| 19:33.23 | fiberchunks | we'll see how easy on the eyes it is |
| 19:33.52 | fiberchunks | sussudio: wanna battle somewhere? |
| 19:34.16 | sussudio | nuh. |
| 19:34.24 | fiberchunks | phbbt |
| 19:34.32 | fiberchunks | bzgirl: you around? do battle? |
| 19:34.42 | bzgirl | :) |
| 19:34.46 | bzgirl | ok |
| 19:34.51 | fiberchunks | pick a spot |
| 19:35.20 | fiberchunks | pref. one w/out too many superflags |
| 19:35.27 | *** join/#bzflag freelancer (~luis@ool-18bcd01b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:35.46 | [TeA|TrEE] | hey free |
| 19:35.50 | freelancer | nhi |
| 19:35.52 | bzgirl | try bzflag.rosemeyers.net |
| 19:35.53 | freelancer | hi |
| 19:35.56 | fiberchunks | k |
| 19:36.01 | fiberchunks | be there 1 minute |
| 19:36.04 | freelancer | k |
| 19:36.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | ? |
| 19:36.23 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzfquery bzflag.rosemeyers.net:5155 |
| 19:36.41 | bzgirl | ibot bzfquery bzflag.rosemeyers.net:5155 |
| 19:36.55 | calico | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.00 | [TeA|TrEE] | hgea cal |
| 19:37.03 | [TeA|TrEE] | im on ducati |
| 19:37.08 | calico | ok |
| 19:37.10 | calico | coming |
| 19:37.12 | bzgirl | hi calico |
| 19:37.22 | calico | ;) |
| 19:37.41 | *** join/#bzflag BeZee (BeZee@pD9E49240.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:37.48 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: i cant connect to 5515 |
| 19:38.00 | calico | try 5155 |
| 19:38.07 | bzgirl | ok |
| 19:38.10 | bzgirl | oops |
| 19:38.13 | calico | nlol |
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| 19:50.05 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio1 (Suss@d5113264.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 20:01.16 | fiberchunks | jeezus - I suck at ctf |
| 20:04.11 | sussudio | no, that server just sucks |
| 20:33.01 | *** join/#bzflag hardwire (~hardwire@12-252-5-124.client.attbi.com) |
| 20:36.01 | *** join/#bzflag corndawg (~who_cares@c-24-131-245-105.mw.client2.attbi.com) |
| 20:36.06 | corndawg | heyas all |
| 20:37.21 | bzdoug__ | noooooo |
| 20:38.16 | sussudio | ~slick |
| 20:38.18 | | Shut up, Doug. |
| 20:42.50 | *** join/#bzflag BeZee (BeZee@pD9E49240.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:46.29 | hardwire | hi |
| 20:46.40 | bzdoug__ | ih |
| 20:47.44 | sussudio | ~dus |
| 20:47.44 | | Fuhg Hc, Qbht |
| 20:54.10 | *** join/#bzflag hardwire (~hardwire@12-252-5-124.client.attbi.com) |
| 20:54.13 | bzdoug__ | ~rot13 Fuhg Hc, Qbht |
| 20:54.13 | | Shut Up, Doug |
| 20:54.40 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~dus |
| 20:54.41 | | Fuhg Hc, Qbht |
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| 21:12.00 | [TeA|TrEE] | night |
| 21:12.02 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 21:12.43 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E9541B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:17.08 | Jormungandr | hrm. bzfs had dragon.org cpu at 97% with noone on it. |
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| 21:19.10 | sussudio | that's nice. |
| 21:20.15 | *** join/#bzflag Ruudi (Sacha@80-235-68-147-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 21:20.21 | Ruudi | seen mandy |
| 21:40.52 | stibnite | fiberchunks, you there? |
| 21:45.01 | *** join/#bzflag Patalbor221 (~jeffm@dsl-65-184-174-217.telocity.com) |
| 21:51.12 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@pD95907B1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:51.15 | Cell | lo |
| 21:51.28 | Patalbor221 | high |
| 21:51.46 | Cell | genus x surface somenone can explain how the genus of a surface is measured? |
| 21:52.29 | Patalbor221 | genus? |
| 21:52.46 | Cell | yes read that hough hoppe papers |
| 21:53.14 | Patalbor221 | reember we can't read your mind |
| 21:54.20 | sussudio | Cell: dont eat the funny mushrooms anymore. |
| 21:55.09 | Patalbor221 | I think I made derv cry. |
| 21:55.17 | Cell | Geometry images is very interesting, a 2-manifold is approximated by a 2d -> 3d parametrization |
| 21:55.45 | Patalbor221 | realy man give us some background before spouting stuff. |
| 21:55.48 | Cell | and thus saved as an image of vertex positions |
| 21:59.10 | scanline | and what happens when you zoom in? |
| 22:00.48 | Patalbor221 | he fusses with his little brother and becomes Cellito |
| 22:01.11 | Cell | patlabor221: if i model a high detail 3d model and assign texture coordinates ande than unwrap them and render to texture and after that progressivly simplify that mesh the texture does not llok correct anymore |
| 22:01.32 | Cell | on the simpler model |
| 22:02.19 | Patalbor221 | yes, usualy you only use the high poly model as a bump |
| 22:02.24 | Patalbor221 | that's what doom does |
| 22:02.55 | Cell | k, but than i had to draw textures by hand, which difficult |
| 22:03.07 | Patalbor221 | get artists |
| 22:03.27 | Patalbor221 | and it's not that hard |
| 22:03.40 | *** join/#bzflag MortimeR (~MortimeR@62-37-202-165.dialup.uni2.es) |
| 22:03.41 | Patalbor221 | I did the texture for the Mk.3 by hand |
| 22:04.02 | Cell | and what when your model is a PM ? |
| 22:04.36 | Patalbor221 | as long as you keep the UVs the same for verts it will be fine |
| 22:05.02 | Patalbor221 | and as long as your progresive Mesh knows to keep the shape |
| 22:05.17 | Patalbor221 | show me your texture and model |
| 22:05.42 | *** join/#bzflag freelancer (~luis@ool-18bcd01b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:06.53 | freelancer | hi all |
| 22:08.12 | Patalbor221 | well that was fast |
| 22:11.37 | fiberchunks | stibnite: i am now, why? |
| 22:12.19 | stibnite | got banned from turkey with no warning last night. Went back, it was the nick. :( |
| 22:12.29 | *** part/#bzflag jneves (~Really@213.22.171.135) |
| 22:14.22 | fiberchunks | what nick? |
| 22:14.47 | stibnite | "Mr. Holland's Anus" |
| 22:14.57 | fiberchunks | who banned you? |
| 22:15.06 | stibnite | kernel panic |
| 22:15.24 | fiberchunks | ah, well, if it's kp there's nothing I can do, as he owns the server |
| 22:15.33 | stibnite | fair enough. :) |
| 22:15.45 | bzgirl | and you spelled opus wrong |
| 22:15.45 | sussudio | next time don't pick body orifices |
| 22:15.54 | fiberchunks | like I said: if I'm on, then there's no problem -- but with the others spec. kp, I can't do a thing |
| 22:16.05 | stibnite | it's ok. |
| 22:16.11 | fiberchunks | Der rucksite von Mr. Holland |
| 22:16.20 | fiberchunks | are you unbanned now? |
| 22:16.33 | stibnite | no. |
| 22:16.36 | fiberchunks | ip? |
| 22:16.47 | stibnite | lemme see 1 sec |
| 22:16.57 | fiberchunks | I'll unban you, but I request that you DO NOT sign on to turkey with that callsign again, please :) |
| 22:17.01 | stibnite | 68.6.104.205 |
| 22:17.02 | stibnite | i won't |
| 22:17.08 | fiberchunks | thx -- one minute |
| 22:17.17 | stibnite | i think that was it; if not, it is definitely 68.6. something. |
| 22:17.36 | fiberchunks | and I'm not sure if he added you to ip tables -- if he did - I have no way of unbanning -- but I'll check the turkey banlist |
| 22:18.07 | stibnite | hehe, i appreciate the effort |
| 22:18.54 | fiberchunks | 68.6.104.205? |
| 22:19.03 | stibnite | yes that is what i believe it was. |
| 22:19.17 | fiberchunks | k, done |
| 22:19.20 | stibnite | thank you |
| 22:19.48 | fiberchunks | sure, just pls don't log in there with that callsign unless I'm the only admin on - if you would -- solve a whole bunch of problems |
| 22:20.11 | Patalbor221 | well it's a rather lame callsighn, why even use it? |
| 22:20.27 | stibnite | it was bad timing last night. :( I had just banned a player from my server for unsportsmanlike behavior, and he went to turkey spouting about the incident. I couldn't defend myself. :( |
| 22:20.42 | fiberchunks | what server do you run? |
| 22:20.49 | stibnite | Patalbor221: because it's my prerogative. |
| 22:20.51 | stibnite | hashmark |
| 22:21.00 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 22:21.08 | Patalbor221 | that it is |
| 22:21.32 | fiberchunks | Patalbor221: love that angry smiley -- she seems so ... agitated ;) |
| 22:21.55 | Patalbor221 | I just found the origonal of it |
| 22:22.01 | Patalbor221 | much larger |
| 22:22.04 | Patalbor221 | and clearer |
| 22:22.06 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 22:22.23 | fiberchunks | that kind of anime I definitely enjoy |
| 22:22.25 | bzgirl | omg |
| 22:22.29 | Patalbor221 | same URL as the other with a "010500.gif" for the file |
| 22:22.52 | Patalbor221 | can you imagine that somoen on another board uses that as a sigpic? |
| 22:22.59 | Patalbor221 | sory an AVATAR even |
| 22:23.28 | fiberchunks | oh my |
| 22:23.41 | fiberchunks | bzgirl -- you see that thing yet? |
| 22:23.57 | bzgirl | yes. |
| 22:24.02 | Patalbor221 | who as time, or desire to animate stuff like that just for an aimated gif |
| 22:24.04 | Chestal | did anyone watch the HoW - DDD match? |
| 22:24.27 | fiberchunks | I have no idea |
| 22:24.46 | Patalbor221 | now to pick a name |
| 22:24.58 | Patalbor221 | BZFlag :Paradigm Shift? |
| 22:25.17 | fiberchunks | bzflag<<8 |
| 22:25.25 | Patalbor221 | noone would get it |
| 22:25.30 | fiberchunks | t |
| 22:25.39 | Patalbor221 | BZFlag:The next generation |
| 22:25.48 | fiberchunks | BZF:TNG |
| 22:25.50 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 22:25.57 | Patalbor221 | BZFlag:The voage home |
| 22:26.12 | bzgirl | Chestal: who won? |
| 22:26.25 | Chestal | bzgirl: HoW, 8-3 |
| 22:26.44 | Chestal | didn't even know that DDD team is still alive (well it has dozens of members...) |
| 22:27.15 | fiberchunks | bzgirl: that was some whoopin you applied to me earlier today ;) |
| 22:27.56 | bzgirl | well Mr Cooper and Mayhem are the only DDD players i ever see actually playing |
| 22:27.57 | Patalbor221 | be nice if there was an anouncer for games that would say stuff when you are on a streak or something, and play it on everyones macines |
| 22:28.15 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: i hadnt even warmed up :) |
| 22:28.22 | bzgirl | j/k |
| 22:29.06 | fiberchunks | bzgirl: lol -- I grow weak thinking of the trouncin you would have done had you been warmed up :) |
| 22:29.36 | bzgirl | i like that server, i dont lag there |
| 22:29.37 | Patalbor221 | do they run in fear from you? |
| 22:29.48 | bzgirl | sometimes :) |
| 22:29.53 | Patalbor221 | if they are smart |
| 22:29.55 | fiberchunks | I think there was a good 32 point difference bet us (16 / -16) |
| 22:30.15 | fiberchunks | when I left to go whimper in a corner |
| 22:30.23 | Patalbor221 | were her +16 from your -16? |
| 22:30.29 | fiberchunks | yah |
| 22:30.38 | Patalbor221 | in a row? |
| 22:30.49 | bzgirl | but only 2 on 2 meant you were always around to shoot |
| 22:30.53 | fiberchunks | no -- those were cumulative (others were playing |
| 22:31.01 | Patalbor221 | ok |
| 22:31.03 | bzgirl | 4 on 4 is better |
| 22:31.14 | *** join/#bzflag jraitala (cheesus@jraitala-dsl.oulu.fi) |
| 22:31.15 | fiberchunks | [meq] freelancer - and ppl kept jumping in and out |
| 22:31.25 | jraitala | hello |
| 22:31.32 | bzgirl | hi jraitala |
| 22:32.29 | jraitala | hey bzgirl |
| 22:32.33 | fiberchunks | I wonder how difficult it would be to create 'spawn-zones' for ctf games -- i.e. green people should not be getting spawned on the red side of the map |
| 22:33.55 | Patalbor221 | the alogo could proallby be changed easaly |
| 22:34.11 | *** join/#bzflag freelancer (~luis@ool-18bcd01b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:34.11 | Chestal | fibger: I'm not so ssure this is a good idea. Imagine you want to catpreu the green flag and while you go for it you shoot defenders and they keep popping up near you |
| 22:34.29 | freelancer | hi Chestal |
| 22:34.40 | Chestal | hi lancer |
| 22:34.40 | fiberchunks | Chestal: oh yes, but taking that into account as well, there's still 1/2 the map to spawn in |
| 22:34.42 | Patalbor221 | most games take care of that with hard spawn points |
| 22:34.50 | Patalbor221 | but then you have spawn camping issues |
| 22:34.50 | fiberchunks | +/- considering obstacles |
| 22:35.31 | Chestal | I am quite satisfied with the current spawning; only thign that could be enhanced are mass spawns of peopel from the same team |
| 22:35.38 | freelancer | any see proton ??? |
| 22:36.19 | fiberchunks | well, the reason I mention it is this: I noticed several times today (~7 or so) in the 15 minutes that I played, that I would be battling with one enemy, and another enemy spawns directly behind me (perhaps facing away, but that's not the point) -- therefore putting me in a cross-fire, through no skill of the enemy team |
| 22:37.03 | fiberchunks | I don't mind being a cross-fire target, as long as it's a planned thing on the part of the team (vice the server algorithm) |
| 22:37.06 | Chestal | cross-fire is good, they will shoot themselves :-) |
| 22:37.16 | bzgirl | that will teach though, to fight in crossfire..think of it as training |
| 22:37.18 | fiberchunks | not if they're at angles to one another |
| 22:37.25 | captain_proton | freelancer: here |
| 22:37.33 | freelancer | nhi captain |
| 22:37.51 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 22:37.57 | fiberchunks | ah, but it's not training, it's simply luck -- if I see someone moving at me to get me trapped, I can at least _try_ to prevent it, whereas with a spawn, there's no chance |
| 22:38.37 | Chestal | fiber: well, I'm open for suggestions on how to imrpvoe the algorithm. This would include that people need to understand the current algorithm in thr first place. I just doubt that it's easy to change it in a way so that it improves under different circumstances |
| 22:38.55 | fiberchunks | where can I find the spawn-code? |
| 22:39.03 | fiberchunks | files, that is |
| 22:39.31 | Chestal | fiber: usually, lucky spawns are not really a problem in CTF (when peopel are not usind e4 or older). CTF can get annoying quick when the other team is very superior |
| 22:39.53 | Chestal | fiberchunks: src/bzflag/playing.cxx, don't know the name of the function |
| 22:40.06 | bzdoug_ | weee, I put a switch on the front of my computer to let me turn on the case fan |
| 22:40.34 | fiberchunks | don't get me wrong -- I'm not complaining or whining about it, just wondering if it could be made better, and noting some discrepancies I saw ( I have no problem getting killed by a superior player) |
| 22:40.36 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 22:40.44 | Patalbor221 | hmmm client determines spawn point? that could be exploited |
| 22:41.17 | fiberchunks | Chestal: I thought spawning was handled by the server? hrm, guess not |
| 22:41.20 | Chestal | fiber: yes, I understand. It#s difficult to get it right, though. My last change of the algortihm (e4->e6) imrpoved it#s behaviour in CTF games in general |
| 22:41.28 | Chestal | but it also introduced the mass spawning near one point |
| 22:41.33 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 22:41.39 | Chestal | fiber: no, client decides itself where to spawn |
| 22:41.54 | Chestal | (good for cheating ;-) |
| 22:42.00 | fiberchunks | is that going to be changed when the server becomes authoritative? |
| 22:42.09 | Chestal | yes, probably |
| 22:42.12 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 22:42.23 | Patalbor221 | ohh chestal, for your jump HS bug, it would help if the server kept track of your current and last flag, and ground/air state |
| 22:42.31 | fiberchunks | ~spelling authoritative |
| 22:42.46 | Chestal | Patlabor: I don#t want it to get too cmplicate drigh tnow |
| 22:42.52 | freelancer | anyone up for a match in 1/2 hour??? |
| 22:42.56 | Chestal | Patlabor: as I see the current chicks as some quick hacks only |
| 22:43.01 | fiberchunks | is 'authoratative' a word? |
| 22:43.11 | Patalbor221 | yes it is |
| 22:43.12 | fiberchunks | or is it authoritive |
| 22:43.41 | fiberchunks | hrm, k |
| 22:43.56 | Chestal | which reminds me, anyone who wants to test, please jon ducati 59500 and fool around there, grabbing hs fags, dropping them, jumping etc. |
| 22:43.57 | Patalbor221 | checking the lord-god dicotionary |
| 22:44.04 | Patalbor221 | Main Entry: au·thor·i·ta·tive |
| 22:44.04 | Patalbor221 | Pronunciation: &-'thär-&-"tA-tiv, o-, -'thor- |
| 22:44.04 | Patalbor221 | Function: adjective |
| 22:44.04 | Patalbor221 | Date: 1605 |
| 22:44.04 | Patalbor221 | 1 a : having or proceeding from authority : OFFICIAL <authoritative church doctrine> b : showing evident authority : DEFINITIVE <a most authoritative literary critique> |
| 22:44.06 | Patalbor221 | 2 : DICTATORIAL 2 |
| 22:44.08 | Patalbor221 | - au·thor·i·ta·tive·ly adverb |
| 22:44.10 | Patalbor221 | - au·thor·i·ta·tive·ness noun |
| 22:44.19 | fiberchunks | ah - thank you :) |
| 22:44.34 | fiberchunks | my vocab conscience feels much better |
| 22:45.07 | fiberchunks | www.bzflag.org <-- the authoratative church of bz doctrine |
| 22:45.20 | freelancer | is anyone up for a match in 1/2 hour against meq ??? |
| 22:45.23 | Patalbor221 | does that make me a heritc? |
| 22:45.33 | fiberchunks | probably, but we already knew that ;) |
| 22:45.43 | Patalbor221 | how come noone tells me these things |
| 22:46.25 | Patalbor221 | ohhhh BZflag:Evil |
| 22:46.30 | Patalbor221 | that could be a name |
| 22:46.31 | fiberchunks | nice |
| 22:46.42 | fiberchunks | heh, Mini-BZ |
| 22:46.48 | Patalbor221 | since MAC thinks I have fallen to the darkside |
| 22:47.10 | Chestal | Pat: because you have |
| 22:47.14 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 22:47.18 | Patalbor221 | gray side |
| 22:47.31 | Patalbor221 | some things will move back into BZ proper |
| 22:47.50 | fiberchunks | BZFlag:X |
| 22:48.03 | fiberchunks | not eXtreme, just X |
| 22:48.03 | Patalbor221 | seems someone else did a cheat called that |
| 22:48.15 | Patalbor221 | so I may want to stay away from that name |
| 22:48.22 | sussudio | BAN < 1.7e6 from ducati! |
| 22:48.26 | fiberchunks | ah, BZFlag:Foobar |
| 22:48.42 | Patalbor221 | you sure that's not the normal one :) |
| 22:48.47 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 22:49.51 | fiberchunks | interesting q: is there a way to ban clients < X ? |
| 22:50.22 | Chestal | no easy way right now |
| 22:50.27 | Patalbor221 | I don't think older versions sent the info |
| 22:50.28 | Chestal | server does no tknow about client version |
| 22:50.40 | fiberchunks | there going to be (besides protocol breakage / incompatibility, that is) |
| 22:50.44 | sussudio | grmpf |
| 22:50.47 | Patalbor221 | but there is a way to query it right? |
| 22:50.50 | sussudio | just gimme a password and i'll kick them all |
| 22:50.55 | fiberchunks | CLIENTQUERY |
| 22:51.10 | Chestal | Patlabor: only with te CLINETQUERY hack |
| 22:51.10 | Patalbor221 | bet the server can't query it |
| 22:51.24 | Chestal | the server could do this, too, but it would be even more of a ahck |
| 22:51.34 | Chestal | because it's no server feature |
| 22:51.34 | fiberchunks | same with SILENCE / UNSILENCE |
| 22:51.37 | captain_proton | server doesn't need to do it for it to be /clientquery |
| 22:51.39 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 22:51.59 | captain_proton | Chestal: there is no reason to have different syntax between client and server commands |
| 22:52.01 | Chestal | client version should be transmitte dto the server in future versions |
| 22:52.02 | Patalbor221 | the clients don't realy know about a thing called a "Server" do they |
| 22:52.04 | fiberchunks | a consistent interface for commands would be nice |
| 22:52.07 | Patalbor221 | like the server can't make shots |
| 22:52.27 | Chestal | proton: ok, the sending client could transform it |
| 22:52.37 | captain_proton | Chestal: no real need to even do that |
| 22:52.54 | captain_proton | just have the server passthrough /commands and the other clients recognize it |
| 22:52.58 | Chestal | proton: well, sevrer would capture /clientquery |
| 22:53.01 | Chestal | uah |
| 22:53.03 | Chestal | nono |
| 22:53.06 | Chestal | evil evil evil |
| 22:53.50 | Chestal | both CLIENTQUERY and the /-comamnds are more liek a hack anyway. They ar doen the way there are because of backward compatibility |
| 22:54.01 | fiberchunks | Chestal: is CLIENTQUERY handled through the server at all? or is it just a broadcast to the other clients from the originating clients? |
| 22:54.01 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.103) |
| 22:54.04 | Chestal | so that current clients coudl use the server commands |
| 22:54.04 | captain_proton | we really should use a separate Msg |
| 22:54.10 | fiberchunks | (or am I confusing metaphors) |
| 22:54.13 | Chestal | fiber: the latter |
| 22:54.19 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 22:54.56 | Chestal | hmm, noone joining my test server ducati 59500 |
| 22:55.05 | Chestal | trying to gather speed values |
| 22:55.18 | Chestal | sussudio got the highest speeds so far :-) |
| 22:55.37 | sussudio | :-| |
| 22:55.46 | Chestal | (even without his hacked X client) |
| 22:56.05 | sussudio | i use keyboard for control |
| 22:56.08 | fiberchunks | Patalbor221: BZFlag:Darkness |
| 22:56.09 | sussudio | if that matters any. |
| 22:56.27 | Chestal | I think I know why it happens, just not sure why some clients seem to be less accurate than others. Maybe it's related to fps or VC++ floatign point arithmetic is less precise or something |
| 22:56.42 | Chestal | keyboar dmvoement is not even working for me |
| 22:56.50 | fiberchunks | really? why |
| 22:56.51 | Chestal | I could never imagine that someone is actually usin git |
| 22:56.55 | Chestal | it behaves strange |
| 22:56.56 | fiberchunks | phbbt |
| 22:57.00 | fiberchunks | how so? |
| 22:57.10 | Chestal | liek stop'n'go if I press forward |
| 22:57.10 | fiberchunks | mmmm hmmmm |
| 22:57.18 | Chestal | probably related to repeat rate or something |
| 22:57.25 | Chestal | or different handlign of keyboard events on Windows / linux |
| 22:57.27 | fiberchunks | I know that one -- it also seems as if ppl using mice can move faster than I |
| 22:57.37 | sussudio | mouse gives me carpal tunnel crap |
| 22:57.43 | fiberchunks | same here |
| 22:57.51 | Chestal | to my understandign the keyboard movement was added as a last resort, not to be really used in normal games |
| 22:58.05 | fiberchunks | then why add it at all? |
| 22:58.20 | Chestal | can be nice for testign sometimes |
| 22:58.31 | fiberchunks | can be nice for playing too, imho |
| 22:58.34 | Chestal | I don't know who added it and to what purpose, always seemed broken for me |
| 22:58.40 | fiberchunks | (if it weren't so broken, that is) |
| 22:58.43 | Chestal | but some playing seem to use it, and do well |
| 22:58.53 | Chestal | s/playing/people/ |
| 22:59.31 | Chestal | it probably let's you evade a little faster |
| 22:59.40 | Chestal | because with mouse there migh tbe a small delay until you're at full speed |
| 22:59.59 | Chestal | but you can only go and turn at ful sped / rate with kbd, I caould never play with that |
| 23:00.17 | Chestal | and I would have knots in my fingers after 5 minutes |
| 23:00.24 | fiberchunks | use the 'slow keyboard motion' key (cept there's no tuning of it) |
| 23:00.50 | Chestal | is anyone of you using keyboard control on Unx? |
| 23:00.55 | fiberchunks | me |
| 23:01.27 | sussudio | if i'm in linux |
| 23:01.45 | Chestal | hmm, so my theorey that windows=ok, Linux=stuttering is broken? |
| 23:02.19 | fiberchunks | linux does stutter, I've noticed it as well |
| 23:02.21 | Chestal | hmm, the localization of the help texts is somewhat broken by design |
| 23:02.31 | fiberchunks | mostly while forward/turning at the same time |
| 23:02.40 | Chestal | fiber: hapens to me all the tme, it's totally unsuable |
| 23:03.13 | fiberchunks | happens once in a great while for me, or sometimes several times within a game -- random far as I can tell |
| 23:03.46 | Chestal | hm, actualyl it works on my home machine |
| 23:03.54 | Chestal | but on my play machine in the office, it stutters like mad |
| 23:03.56 | MrApathyCream | wassup? |
| 23:04.12 | Chestal | MAC: heh, more difficulties with high speed check |
| 23:04.17 | sussudio | bzflag seems to have a habit of killing my keyboard under linux sometimes |
| 23:04.32 | Chestal | MAC: your latest changes work fine, but two problems (one whch I think we can ignore for now) |
| 23:04.34 | sussudio | i have to telnet in and kill bzflag from another machine |
| 23:04.57 | MrApathyCream | so what's new busted |
| 23:05.31 | Chestal | MAC: the rpoblem which might be acceptabe to ignore: grab HS, full forward, jumo, drop HS flag, shoot while in-air |
| 23:05.41 | sussudio | dont you hate it when sneezes ricochet |
| 23:05.43 | Chestal | MAC: tank still has high speed, so shots will get boost, too |
| 23:05.49 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 23:05.52 | Chestal | MAC: server thinks shots are too fast and will cancel them |
| 23:05.57 | MrApathyCream | right |
| 23:06.15 | Chestal | should happen extremely rarely in a normal game |
| 23:06.40 | MrApathyCream | almost like we need to keep track of (V) flag, (somehow) until you 'land' however the server could figure that out |
| 23:06.46 | Chestal | problem 2 cannot be ignored, but can probably be solved easily |
| 23:07.23 | Chestal | MAC: the question is whether it's a good idea to put too much effort into it. I think these cheat detectetions are a quick hack and we'll do it the right way in later versions |
| 23:07.38 | MrApathyCream | well, depends how 'later' |
| 23:07.43 | Chestal | MAC: problem 2: tanks can get faster than TankSPeed (or TankSpeed*1.5 with HS flag) |
| 23:07.51 | Chestal | MAC: in protocol breakign revisions |
| 23:08.01 | Chestal | MAC: where server will probably have more knowledge anyway |
| 23:08.39 | Chestal | MAC: I think this is becaue of float inaccuracy. Client calculate sdesiredSpeed based on user input, so say desiredSPeed=TankSpeed |
| 23:08.53 | MrApathyCream | how much faster? |
| 23:09.04 | Chestal | will then split it into x and y, so far only very tiny inaccuracy, maybe like 25.0001 |
| 23:09.18 | Chestal | then it does all the collision checking etc., didn't really look at it |
| 23:09.20 | MrApathyCream | there is a 1.0 cushion |
| 23:09.32 | Chestal | the result of this is a t < dt |
| 23:09.37 | Chestal | eh, wrong |
| 23:09.41 | Chestal | resutl is a new tank position |
| 23:09.56 | Chestal | then velocity is recalculated by v=(newpos-oldpos)/dt |
| 23:10.27 | Chestal | and this is sometimes as high as 37.56 for sussudi with HS flag |
| 23:10.35 | Chestal | whereas 37.5 would be max |
| 23:10.37 | fiberchunks | sussudio: I've never had bzflag take my keyboard down |
| 23:10.49 | Chestal | I myself can't get it much higher than 37.501 |
| 23:10.54 | fiberchunks | (informational) |
| 23:10.58 | Chestal | migh tbe related to fps or windows |
| 23:11.19 | Chestal | kicking Player MrApathyCream [0]: tank too fast (was: 37.514691, expected 37.500000 max |
| 23:11.43 | Chestal | that's your highest |
| 23:14.09 | MrApathyCream | we could roll back max to to be TankSpeed * 1.7 always as a safer solution for now |
| 23:15.18 | Chestal | 1.7 is a lot, a factor of 1.003 is probably enough |
| 23:15.32 | Chestal | trying to gather data to see what is the highest value |
| 23:16.00 | Chestal | yours is nly 0.03% above normal |
| 23:16.07 | sussudio | how about an immediate kick if someone goes beyond the confines of the playing field? |
| 23:16.29 | sussudio | i saw someone cheating earlier that went outside and could still shoot in...... |
| 23:18.59 | MrApathyCream | we do that for height |
| 23:20.17 | Chestal | MAC: so the question is basically how much of a tlerance to allow |
| 23:20.31 | Chestal | still wondering why the deviatin differs so much from clien tto client |
| 23:23.38 | MrApathyCream | right |
| 23:24.42 | Chestal | mybe it really is the framerate |
| 23:25.03 | Chestal | for smaller values of dt, all time and space differences get smaller, so maybe the float inaccuricies will get bigger |
| 23:26.24 | MrApathyCream | prhaps |
| 23:27.42 | Chestal | 37.509437 at home, Linux, fps at about 150 |
| 23:29.37 | Chestal | 37.514502 wth fps 200 |
| 23:29.40 | Patalbor221 | perhaps BZ needs a Heisenburg Compensator |
| 23:29.46 | Chestal | onhe more reason to limit framerate to vsync :-) |
| 23:30.44 | Patalbor221 | what if you don't realy have a VSYNC |
| 23:30.49 | Patalbor221 | like on a digital sisplay |
| 23:31.10 | Chestal | don't those use a fixed refresh rate, too? |
| 23:31.28 | Patalbor221 | not whehn you use the DVI connectors, if I recall |
| 23:31.38 | Patalbor221 | they just send streams of image data |
| 23:31.46 | Chestal | well, aynways, an interframe tiem of less than 0.01s is probabl useless |
| 23:31.50 | Patalbor221 | since each pixel is indpeendently powered |
| 23:35.48 | *** join/#bzflag hardwire (~hardwire@12-252-5-124.client.attbi.com) |
| 23:55.56 | *** join/#bzflag freelancer (~luis@ool-18bcd01b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 23:58.26 | Patalbor221 | fiber, how bout BZFlag:Zero |
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