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| 00:23.20 | BZFlag | somebody(tm) fix the GM suicide bug. and fix the bot suicide bug while you're at it. |
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| 00:36.21 | fiberchunks | evening all (GMT-5) :) |
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| 00:40.55 | calico | bb you here |
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| 00:44.30 | [TeA|TrEE] | night all |
| 00:44.40 | [TeA|TrEE] | TLZ 11: HoW 1 |
| 00:44.49 | [TeA|TrEE] | bye all |
| 00:44.53 | [TeA|TrEE] | merry christmas |
| 00:44.54 | calico | well it was 5v3 you should have won |
| 00:45.02 | [TeA|TrEE] | ? |
| 00:45.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | 3 vs 3 |
| 00:45.28 | calico | a 3v3 match doesnt meen that everyone on your team should play |
| 00:45.30 | [TeA|TrEE] | calcio dont like loosing |
| 00:45.36 | [TeA|TrEE] | yes |
| 00:45.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | because we are a team |
| 00:45.42 | calico | you guys ar hard enough when you keep the same 3 |
| 00:45.47 | [TeA|TrEE] | fanta wants it like that |
| 00:45.53 | [TeA|TrEE] | so every one can play |
| 00:45.56 | calico | its not fair when you keep switching in and out |
| 00:45.59 | [TeA|TrEE] | every one stays as team |
| 00:46.03 | [TeA|TrEE] | its allowed |
| 00:46.06 | calico | hmm |
| 00:46.07 | [TeA|TrEE] | u can do that aswell |
| 00:46.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | bad looser |
| 00:46.18 | calico | lol, whatever |
| 00:46.23 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmm |
| 00:46.24 | [TeA|TrEE] | ... |
| 00:46.26 | [TeA|TrEE] | night |
| 00:46.32 | [TeA|TrEE] | merry christmas calcio |
| 00:46.43 | calico | whatever |
| 00:46.48 | calico | merry christmas |
| 00:46.52 | [TeA|TrEE] | whoever |
| 00:46.55 | [TeA|TrEE] | skakira |
| 00:46.58 | [TeA|TrEE] | ahkira |
| 00:46.59 | [TeA|TrEE] | aaah |
| 00:47.02 | [TeA|TrEE] | shakira |
| 00:47.04 | [TeA|TrEE] | :) |
| 00:47.11 | [TeA|TrEE] | skakira |
| 00:47.35 | calico | you know that you guys have alot of the top players and in a 30 minute game you |
| 00:47.45 | calico | start to figure out how a person reacts |
| 00:48.05 | calico | but when you keep changing your teammates it makes it impossible |
| 00:48.15 | calico | to get into any type of rythem |
| 00:48.56 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmm |
| 00:48.59 | [TeA|TrEE] | its better for u |
| 00:48.59 | calico | im not a bad looser, i just didnt think that that was fair |
| 00:49.07 | calico | for me yes |
| 00:49.16 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmm |
| 00:49.19 | [TeA|TrEE] | talk another day |
| 00:49.21 | [TeA|TrEE] | night |
| 00:49.26 | calico | cya |
| 00:50.58 | calico | you live in us tea? |
| 00:51.31 | bzdoug | germany |
| 00:51.33 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:52.02 | calico | i guess i made him mad at me |
| 00:52.06 | bzdoug | no |
| 00:52.10 | bzdoug | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.16 | bzdoug | ---> AwaY FroM KeyBoarD <-- |
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| 01:05.21 | *** topic/#bzflag by Rembo -> Hell on Wheels will rule bzflag... Eventually :) |
| 01:05.30 | Rembo | Whoohoo |
| 01:05.34 | Rembo | arf |
| 01:05.48 | Rembo | sorry had a little fun by myself |
| 01:11.47 | Rembo | wheeheee |
| 01:12.14 | Rembo | uhhh. yeah. well ok bye. Cu on the battleground |
| 01:12.49 | sussudio | ummm what a dumbass |
| 01:14.58 | *** topic/#bzflag by scanline -> We have the one thing that only time can provide: mayonnaise! |
| 01:15.16 | *** topic/#bzflag by sussudio -> 1.7g0 "Holy Dancing Monkeys" released! Buy now and get two for the price of one! http://BZFlag.org/ || Updated BZEdit Windows http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html |
| 01:16.03 | *** topic/#bzflag by scanline -> 1.7g0 "Holy Dancing Monkeys" released! Buy now and get two for the price of one! http://BZFlag.org/ || Updated BZEdit Windows http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html || "We have the one thing that only time can provide - mayonnaise" |
| 01:16.03 | sussudio | :-P |
| 01:16.14 | scanline | there, that's what it was set to before |
| 01:16.43 | sussudio | funnnnnnn 7.5KB/sec |
| 01:16.56 | fiberchunks | heh -- I could email it to you |
| 01:17.11 | sussudio | yeah like anything ends up in my mailbox anyway |
| 01:17.16 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:17.17 | sussudio | ~lart my isp |
| 01:17.42 | fiberchunks | just ripped my entire CD collection, including the 10 disc zeppelin box set |
| 01:17.43 | sussudio | i'm id3 tagging all the mp3's i didnt rip myself |
| 01:17.51 | sussudio | man, there's a lot of CRAP quality mp3's in there. |
| 01:17.54 | sussudio | ~lart napster |
| 01:17.56 | fiberchunks | what does that get ya |
| 01:17.59 | fiberchunks | LOL |
| 01:18.18 | sussudio | it took me 4 months to rip my collection |
| 01:18.21 | fiberchunks | oh, nm -- changing the info on em you mean |
| 01:18.29 | fiberchunks | man, how many discs you got? |
| 01:18.31 | sussudio | yes |
| 01:18.35 | sussudio | err |
| 01:18.41 | sussudio | i lost count |
| 01:18.58 | sussudio | 7760 tracks |
| 01:19.03 | fiberchunks | jeez, I've got about 300 and it took me about a solid week of ripping |
| 01:19.23 | sussudio | i typed in all the tracks myself |
| 01:19.29 | fiberchunks | that, sir, is an impressive track count |
| 01:19.32 | sussudio | ~lart cddb and their friggin spelling mistakes |
| 01:19.37 | fiberchunks | augh! |
| 01:19.56 | sussudio | i just got sick of correcting incoming crap from cddb... it was faster doing it myself |
| 01:20.15 | sussudio | i have about 300 cd albums..... |
| 01:20.17 | fiberchunks | That's funny, I didn't have any problems when I did CDDB for my discs |
| 01:20.54 | Big_Barrel | ok guys i must go get on a plane |
| 01:21.03 | fiberchunks | cya BB |
| 01:21.06 | Big_Barrel | have a merry x-mas |
| 01:21.09 | fiberchunks | you too |
| 01:21.13 | Big_Barrel | and a happy new year |
| 01:21.16 | Big_Barrel | :) |
| 01:21.22 | Big_Barrel | don't get too drunk |
| 01:21.24 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 01:21.29 | Big_Barrel | god know i will |
| 01:21.34 | Big_Barrel | hehehe |
| 01:21.35 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:21.45 | Big_Barrel | can you say 5gal bier bong? |
| 01:21.49 | Big_Barrel | hehehe |
| 01:22.02 | fiberchunks | remind me to tell you of the 'fuel injector' one of these days |
| 01:22.17 | Big_Barrel | tell me know i have 20min |
| 01:22.20 | Big_Barrel | hehehe |
| 01:22.50 | fiberchunks | k -- picture this: bicycle pump (old metal stand-up kind), cut end of hose off (about middle up). |
| 01:23.08 | Big_Barrel | k |
| 01:23.10 | Big_Barrel | hehehe |
| 01:23.13 | fiberchunks | take 5 qt rabbit water bottle, and cut a hole in bottom, and in cap |
| 01:23.33 | fiberchunks | get some silicone tubing, and some pipe clamps, and some silicone caulk (clear) |
| 01:24.08 | fiberchunks | stick the bike pump hose in the bottom hole, stick the clear tube in the cap hole -- clamp 'em down, and caulk em |
| 01:24.36 | fiberchunks | then, grab yourself a pair of flatnosed vise grips...and clamp near the end of the clear tube. |
| 01:25.03 | fiberchunks | pour 3,4,5 beer in the rabbit water bottle, screw on cap, pump the hell out of the thing |
| 01:25.33 | fiberchunks | stick clear hose in person's mouth -- make sure you tell them to 'open their throat', and release the vise grips |
| 01:25.42 | fiberchunks | X many beer in < 1 second |
| 01:25.43 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 01:25.48 | Big_Barrel | nhehehe |
| 01:25.56 | Big_Barrel | ok want to hear mine? |
| 01:26.01 | fiberchunks | that was my favorite party toy -- sure |
| 01:26.03 | Big_Barrel | yours is pretty good |
| 01:26.19 | Big_Barrel | get a 5gal paint bucket |
| 01:26.59 | Big_Barrel | drill 4 holes in the side, connect the clear tubing to the holes with caulk |
| 01:27.24 | Big_Barrel | put cutoff valves on the end of the tubes |
| 01:28.11 | Big_Barrel | attach a pulley system to a hight spot (maybe tree, or something like that |
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| 01:28.22 | Big_Barrel | and hang the paint bucket |
| 01:28.27 | sussudio1 | stupid crackwhore isp |
| 01:28.35 | Big_Barrel | keep dumping beer into it until full |
| 01:29.05 | Big_Barrel | and walla someone pulls it high above and open the o'l throat |
| 01:29.12 | Big_Barrel | and race 4v4 |
| 01:29.21 | Big_Barrel | very fun |
| 01:29.23 | Big_Barrel | hehehe |
| 01:29.27 | Big_Barrel | very drunk |
| 01:29.36 | Big_Barrel | a special new year's bong |
| 01:29.37 | fiberchunks | 4 for the price of one -- I like it, and it requires mechanical engineering to accomplish :) |
| 01:29.40 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:29.47 | Big_Barrel | hehehe |
| 01:29.53 | Big_Barrel | i like the pulley system |
| 01:30.03 | Big_Barrel | it sure does help w/ the lifting |
| 01:30.08 | Big_Barrel | 5gallons |
| 01:30.10 | Big_Barrel | wow |
| 01:30.15 | fiberchunks | 5 gals of beer ain't light |
| 01:30.22 | Big_Barrel | god knows i was very drunk |
| 01:30.27 | Big_Barrel | hehe |
| 01:30.37 | Big_Barrel | ok well i must be on my way |
| 01:30.41 | fiberchunks | take it easy |
| 01:30.53 | Big_Barrel | chug bier for me |
| 01:30.57 | Big_Barrel | ok cu |
| 01:30.59 | fiberchunks | will do |
| 01:30.59 | Big_Barrel | bye |
| 01:32.17 | fiberchunks | sussudio: you got any recommendations / ideas for the site? I think I'll slap a list box at the top with links to all the major bz sites tonite |
| 01:37.30 | sussudio | no |
| 01:38.40 | fiberchunks | k |
| 01:50.41 | Noodleman | hey |
| 01:50.49 | Noodleman | anybody miss me? |
| 02:01.10 | Noodleman | hehe |
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| 02:04.30 | bzdoug | I would hope so |
| 02:04.34 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:05.01 | bzdoug | http://www.teamtactical.com/img/maps/boldan_large.jpg |
| 02:05.29 | bzdoug | its out of wulfram, and been rendered with 3dsmax or something |
| 02:05.49 | sussudio | Dear Kazaa, |
| 02:05.53 | Noodleman | that's pretty cool :-) |
| 02:05.56 | bzdoug | heh |
| 02:05.58 | hardwire | thats spiff |
| 02:06.00 | sussudio | WHY THE FUCK WOULD I CARE ABOUT YOUR CUSTOMISABLE SKINS |
| 02:06.04 | bzdoug | and we play hovertanks in it |
| 02:06.06 | bzdoug | :) |
| 02:06.06 | sussudio | I JUST WANT TO DOWNLOAD FREE MP3'S |
| 02:06.10 | sussudio | sincerely, |
| 02:06.15 | hardwire | su su sudio |
| 02:06.23 | bzdoug | sussudio: I agree |
| 02:06.23 | sussudio | an anonymous user (and keeping that way by installing kazaalite instead) |
| 02:06.37 | bzdoug | even thought I dont use it |
| 02:06.41 | sussudio | *snort* |
| 02:07.29 | sussudio | i cant believe they sat at the table at kazaa hq and said "hey let's give them customisable skins, so they'll upgrade to 2.0 and we can fuck them over even more with our spyware" |
| 02:07.45 | sussudio | that eula is scary. |
| 02:08.27 | Noodleman | so does noodleman :-) |
| 02:09.06 | sussudio | 620 million files shared and nothing on |
| 02:10.25 | sussudio | doug doesnt read eula's |
| 02:10.35 | sussudio | that's why his ass is now a subsidiary of ralsky spam industries |
| 02:22.28 | bzdoug | ~insult sussudio |
| 02:22.45 | sussudio | doug's nether regions send out 1000 spams a minute |
| 02:23.22 | bzdoug | and sussudio's is about 9999999999999999999999 a minute |
| 02:24.07 | sussudio | nope, i read the EULA. |
| 02:24.18 | bzdoug | uh huh |
| 02:24.22 | bzdoug | then your gonna die |
| 02:24.37 | bzdoug | whoops, you all ready was gonna die... |
| 02:25.05 | sussudio | sure...... the FBI is going to lock up your ass any minute now, they have a court order |
| 02:25.52 | sussudio | <c0mpub0mb> Penix: this channel is not to tell people to go do it yourself. it's to help people i would presume. |
| 02:25.52 | sussudio | <sussudio> c0mpub0mb: you havent been here before, have you? |
| 02:26.02 | sussudio | haha.... n00bs are there for our entertainment. |
| 02:27.49 | sussudio | someone in #debian just called directories folders.... this should amuse me for about 30 mins. |
| 02:28.00 | bzdoug | lol |
| 02:29.35 | bzdoug | WBUAHAHAHA |
| 02:29.35 | bzdoug | http://www.apple.com/switch/ads/will/ |
| 02:33.28 | Noodleman | weird |
| 02:34.00 | bzdoug | has nothing to do with apple |
| 02:34.32 | Noodleman | yeah, i didn't see anything about apple there |
| 02:34.42 | bzdoug | red |
| 02:34.42 | Noodleman | who is will ferrell, anywho? |
| 02:48.11 | fiberchunks | Will ferrell is one of the numerous bad Sat. Night Live players that seems to now get a part in every movie that has anything remotely to do with comedy |
| 02:48.59 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:54.56 | bzdoug | ho ho ho |
| 02:55.06 | bzdoug | merry christmas eve |
| 02:55.12 | bzdoug | almost |
| 02:55.15 | bzdoug | 2 more hours |
| 02:55.31 | bzdoug | and I get christmas first, not you! bwuahaha |
| 03:05.23 | sussudio | bah cowards |
| 03:05.39 | sussudio | they all flee from barfy |
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| 03:20.45 | sussudio | why do people put WAV files on kazaa? :-P |
| 03:35.28 | scanline | sussudio: because .au files aren't trendy anymore |
| 03:36.34 | proton[BGDFH] | :) |
| 03:37.45 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 03:38.18 | scanline | oh.. are you a .raw fan? don't want those pesky headers eating into your download time, eh? |
| 03:40.31 | proton[BGDFH] | haha, i'd forgotten how funny this movie is |
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| 06:12.30 | sussudio | -|- (Mr._Bungle)_Desert_Search_For_Techno_Allah.mp3 (5,184,512 bytes 128kbps Stereo 5mins 25secs Genre:Alternative Year:1995 Album:Disco Volante |
| 06:19.15 | scanline | proton[BGDFH]: o p e n a l |
| 06:19.37 | proton[BGDFH] | scanline: good idea |
| 06:20.16 | scanline | proton[BGDFH]: once we have all these Surface-related objects scriptable, and scriptable sound, we could write a cutscene recorder/player type thing in python pretty easily :) |
| 06:20.28 | proton[BGDFH] | hehehe |
| 06:20.40 | scanline | I'll be able to scriptify Surface and friends really easily once I get them debugged |
| 06:21.05 | scanline | after Surface and a handful of SurfaceModifiers I'll want to do at least a simple Sector object for drawing the surfaces |
| 06:23.55 | scanline | I have this crazy idea about being able to feed back FFTs from the audio back into the game... so you could have objects react in subtle ways to the music. Probably won't be at all useful, but fun :) |
| 06:24.17 | proton[BGDFH] | explain this idea? |
| 06:24.20 | proton[BGDFH] | how would objects react? |
| 06:24.46 | scanline | well, you could have it affect things you won't necessarily notice, like the flickering of fire, or motion of trees in the wind |
| 06:24.58 | proton[BGDFH] | ooooooo |
| 06:25.33 | proton[BGDFH] | very subtle, but i think it could have a cool effect |
| 06:25.56 | scanline | it would be a cool thing to experiment with at least... only problem is that OpenAL doesn't support reading back audio like that yet |
| 06:26.14 | proton[BGDFH] | (yet) |
| 06:26.18 | scanline | if we're using something like libvorbis to decode the music we could FFT it on the way to an OpenAL buffer |
| 06:26.28 | scanline | but it would be nice to read back the final OpenAL output anyway for movie recording |
| 06:26.39 | proton[BGDFH] | actually thats exactly how it'll work |
| 06:26.48 | proton[BGDFH] | the loki vorbis extension reads it into a buffer |
| 06:26.53 | proton[BGDFH] | so we need to use libvorbisfile on our own |
| 06:28.32 | proton[BGDFH] | augh, the motivation, its seeping away |
| 06:29.36 | BZFlag | argh... can we talk more about BZFlag in #BZFlag? (what a concept) |
| 06:29.50 | proton[BGDFH] | BZFlag: sorry |
| 06:29.50 | scanline | sorry |
| 06:30.12 | BZFlag | fix the GM suicide bug and I'll feel better. ;-) |
| 06:31.08 | BZFlag | woah! careful with that! ;-) |
| 06:33.27 | proton[BGDFH] | sound manager |
| 06:33.30 | sussudio | spiff needs a serious attitude adjustment on linuxorbit. |
| 06:33.39 | proton[BGDFH] | oop |
| 06:33.40 | proton[BGDFH] | right now? |
| 06:33.43 | sussudio | yes please |
| 06:33.46 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:34.35 | scanline | so my mesh was like 'beep beep' and I lost all my vertices |
| 07:02.41 | sussudio | i bet if i logon with my 28k8 modem i'll lag less than spiff |
| 07:02.59 | proton[BGDFH] | sussudio: who were you? |
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| 07:03.20 | sussudio | Barfy, ofcourse. you were salty larry, i presume. |
| 07:03.27 | proton[BGDFH] | indeed |
| 07:03.39 | sussudio | i could tell by spiff going postal. |
| 07:03.44 | proton[BGDFH] | =) |
| 07:04.24 | proton[BGDFH] | since when did "respawn killing" become evil? |
| 07:04.37 | sussudio | i dont even know what he meant by that |
| 07:05.00 | proton[BGDFH] | i killed him about 15 seconds after he spawned |
| 07:05.14 | proton[BGDFH] | like i was waiting for him or something |
| 07:05.20 | sussudio | how is that different? |
| 07:05.29 | sussudio | he usually gets killed by someone within that time |
| 08:15.41 | MrApathyCream | wow, just killed myself with GM |
| 08:15.47 | MrApathyCream | how'd that happen |
| 08:15.56 | MrApathyCream | bad lag? |
| 08:15.59 | proton[BGDFH] | bug in my changes |
| 08:16.00 | proton[BGDFH] | :P |
| 08:16.14 | MrApathyCream | i take it you don't know what it is? |
| 08:16.50 | proton[BGDFH] | i have no clue at this point |
| 08:17.36 | MrApathyCream | probably a vector problem, no? |
| 08:18.16 | proton[BGDFH] | well, the end result is that the GM initial position is too close to the tank |
| 08:18.17 | MrApathyCream | anything besides BzfString->std::string and AList->vector? |
| 08:18.23 | proton[BGDFH] | boolean->bool |
| 08:18.29 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 08:18.48 | scanline | proton[BGDFH]: that code I pasted you either has a bug or is inconsistent on purpose :P |
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| 08:19.19 | proton[BGDFH] | compilers optimize bools into individual bits, so its possible that somplace a bool holds a value other than '0' or '1' and its being misinterpreted |
| 08:20.25 | proton[BGDFH] | this guy's globalnotices sound like i'm on an airplane |
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| 08:45.51 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot ducati |
| 08:46.05 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot ducatictf |
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| 09:14.58 | MrApathyCream | proton[BGDFH]: see if that fixes it for you, works here |
| 09:15.11 | [TeA|TrEE] | :) |
| 09:23.12 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: what fixes? |
| 09:23.35 | MrApathyCream | gm self kill |
| 09:24.13 | proton[BGDFH] | MrApathyCream: can't kill myself |
| 09:24.20 | MrApathyCream | kul |
| 09:24.29 | proton[BGDFH] | scanline: :) |
| 09:24.32 | MrApathyCream | that code seemed pretty fragile to me |
| 09:24.44 | MrApathyCream | <not what you did> |
| 09:26.07 | scanline | mayonnaise! |
| 09:26.11 | MrApathyCream | halibut? |
| 09:26.21 | scanline | Coca Cola (tm) |
| 09:29.39 | BZFlag | hmm. so a theory as to why GM suicide happened? Ie: the "fix" is clearly not something that was there before. |
| 09:29.52 | BZFlag | what caused it to show up now? |
| 09:30.22 | scanline | Stochastic asymmetry in the velocity vector integrator |
| 09:30.26 | proton[BGDFH] | could be that the algorithms associated with BzfString & friends were slow enough that it delayed the calculation? |
| 09:30.27 | MrApathyCream | update is being called more often now |
| 09:35.50 | BZFlag | why is update being called more often? |
| 09:39.18 | *** part/#bzflag jneves (~Really@a212-113-187-169.netcabo.pt) |
| 09:40.00 | MrApathyCream | if one rolls their eyes back into their heads, and purses their lips, one could believe that the code executes faster so more dt's per second |
| 09:40.13 | proton[BGDFH] | haha |
| 09:40.52 | MrApathyCream | on the third dt, the gm can hurt you |
| 09:41.07 | MrApathyCream | (no matter what that dt is) |
| 09:42.44 | BZFlag | hmm. perhaps. |
| 09:43.34 | BZFlag | you think the same thing is needed to stop bot suicide then too? |
| 09:43.45 | MrApathyCream | looking |
| 09:47.02 | MrApathyCream | one would think if bots killthemselves then regular tankers would too |
| 09:47.27 | proton[BGDFH] | MrApathyCream: there's a lot of duplication of code between player/robot |
| 09:47.36 | proton[BGDFH] | could be that one got changed and not the other |
| 09:48.09 | MrApathyCream | in general it's probably a good idea to use time based 'free zone' for all kinds of shots |
| 09:49.02 | MrApathyCream | i think laser states you can't be killed with initial segment |
| 09:49.28 | MrApathyCream | maybe one could do that for all, as well, dunno |
| 09:50.46 | MrApathyCream | of course if you ever wanted to add a flag where tank speed and bullet speed flipfloped (or something) than that wouldn't work |
| 09:51.16 | scanline | wouldn't that just mean that from the tank's perspective the shot was fired backwards? |
| 09:51.36 | MrApathyCream | not necessarily |
| 09:51.43 | MrApathyCream | the tank could be going backwards when it fired |
| 09:52.28 | MrApathyCream | but in that case, you _would_ want to be able to be killed by the initial segment. Thus the appeal of the supposed bad flag. |
| 09:52.57 | scanline | that would be a really crazy flag |
| 09:53.01 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 09:53.11 | MrApathyCream | you'd fly around the board tho ;) |
| 09:53.29 | proton[BGDFH] | scanline: guess who's idea that flag was |
| 09:53.42 | scanline | proton[BGDFH]: lurgyman's? :) |
| 09:53.47 | proton[BGDFH] | scanline: right first try |
| 09:53.53 | scanline | hehe |
| 09:53.57 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 09:54.40 | proton[BGDFH] | ahhhh yes |
| 09:54.42 | proton[BGDFH] | NOOF! |
| 09:54.57 | MrApathyCream | i think he was rikered on that one ;) |
| 09:57.12 | proton[BGDFH] | US Plus...we own the idea you thought you had |
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| 10:05.04 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: heh, you've seen the script right? |
| 10:09.40 | MrApathyCream | copyright script? no |
| 10:12.15 | scanline | perl -pi -e 's/Copyright blah/Copyright foo/' `find -name "*.c" -o "*.h"` |
| 10:16.56 | MrApathyCream | well, i don't want santa catching me up as this time of nite, so i'll head off to bed |
| 10:51.50 | sussudio | anyone an admin on moongroup? |
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| 10:58.11 | fiberchunks | yes |
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| 11:03.35 | sussudio | if i see him on jzaun or noodleroni i'm posting his ip |
| 11:03.45 | fiberchunks | I got it |
| 11:03.57 | sussudio | what is it? |
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| 11:14.13 | sussudio | gah! christmas episodes everywhere |
| 11:14.32 | fiberchunks | scrooge |
| 11:14.48 | sussudio | can you believe they're showing a christmas episode of "passion cove"? |
| 11:14.52 | fiberchunks | I used to be, but now I've a kid, so I can't afford to be |
| 11:15.26 | fiberchunks | lol, well, I suppose that's pushing it -- thought you were talking about 'rudolph, and Santa's coming to town' that sort of thing |
| 11:15.44 | sussudio | nuh uh. |
| 11:15.59 | sussudio | gasp. |
| 11:16.09 | fiberchunks | *shudder* |
| 11:16.23 | sussudio | "stripper's christmas" |
| 11:16.23 | fiberchunks | when's the baywatch christmas special on? (.)(.) |
| 11:17.00 | fiberchunks | stripper's christmas -- muwahahahaha :) |
| 11:18.33 | sussudio | these new glasses are giving me a migraine |
| 11:19.36 | fiberchunks | prescription, or stereo goggles? |
| 11:19.50 | sussudio | prescription |
| 11:19.56 | sussudio | 237 euro |
| 11:20.10 | fiberchunks | a euro's what 1.5 dollars or some such? |
| 11:20.26 | sussudio | hovers around 1:1 |
| 11:20.37 | ak|ra | nope |
| 11:20.43 | ak|ra | its almost exactly 1 dollar |
| 11:20.54 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 11:20.58 | sussudio | that's what i said dumbo |
| 11:21.00 | ak|ra | 0.9xx |
| 11:21.04 | ak|ra | something like that |
| 11:21.23 | sussudio | 237 Euro is 243.77109 Dollar |
| 11:21.26 | fiberchunks | does the euro make it easier to do intra-country shopping and such over there? seems it would |
| 11:21.49 | sussudio | *shrug*. i dont feel the urge to visit germany. |
| 11:21.52 | fiberchunks | that's big money for glasses that hurt your eyeballs |
| 11:22.31 | sussudio | they're extra thing and glare removed and stuff. |
| 11:22.34 | sussudio | thin |
| 11:22.43 | ak|ra | yes, it makes it easier |
| 11:22.47 | ak|ra | where are you from? |
| 11:23.00 | fiberchunks | who, me? US -- Connecticut |
| 11:23.14 | sussudio | for some reason germans that come here think that because they can pay in euros we'll speak german to them all of a sudden |
| 11:23.24 | ak|ra | just assume, you had to change your money on every border -> connecticut to whatever |
| 11:23.28 | fiberchunks | sussudio: you're nederlander right? |
| 11:23.28 | ak|ra | same here |
| 11:23.39 | sussudio | fiberchunks: yeah. |
| 11:23.57 | fiberchunks | ah, yeah..I suppose that would make it easier |
| 11:24.00 | sussudio | some of the germans started talking in german to the cassiere at the local lidl. she just ignored them |
| 11:24.16 | fiberchunks | lidl? cafe? |
| 11:24.27 | sussudio | no, it's a cheap-ass supermarket |
| 11:24.28 | sussudio | like aldi |
| 11:24.31 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 11:24.37 | sussudio | just shelves and off-brand crap. |
| 11:24.47 | sussudio | and cheap videotapes and cdr's :-P |
| 11:25.17 | fiberchunks | sounds like the 'dollar-store' over here |
| 11:25.24 | sussudio | somewhat under 7 dollars for 10 32 speed cdr's |
| 11:25.34 | sussudio | i think... |
| 11:25.49 | fiberchunks | I can get a 100 sleeve of em for around $50 |
| 11:25.51 | sussudio | 6.35 Euro is 6.531419 Dollar |
| 11:25.59 | sussudio | yeah but these arent crap |
| 11:26.09 | sussudio | and they come with slimline cases |
| 11:26.16 | sussudio | i can get them on a spindle for cheaper |
| 11:26.19 | fiberchunks | oh, well the cases are a nice bonus |
| 11:26.30 | sussudio | ive had bad experiences with some brands |
| 11:26.42 | sussudio | and they werent even that cheap |
| 11:27.00 | sussudio | "that's write" = that's crap |
| 11:27.09 | fiberchunks | who do you use for a manufacturer? I'm mostly using pny |
| 11:27.14 | sussudio | i couldnt read them 2 months after burning the cd's! |
| 11:27.47 | sussudio | well them sell them under one brand at lidl, but the cd media differs |
| 11:27.59 | sussudio | sometimes they're ritek, sometimes other brands |
| 11:28.20 | fiberchunks | these pny take some serious abuse, and still read |
| 11:28.51 | sussudio | i've had some bad cd's... cant remember the name |
| 11:28.58 | sussudio | they were almost transparent |
| 11:29.15 | sussudio | arita |
| 11:29.28 | sussudio | i couldnt even burn them at 1x |
| 11:29.40 | fiberchunks | heh, that's high quality! |
| 11:30.03 | sussudio | the ones i buy from lidl are mostly silver |
| 11:30.13 | sussudio | they seem to be better than the blue ones |
| 11:30.16 | fiberchunks | there any manufacturers of dvd-roms out there that make SCSI devices? |
| 11:30.35 | sussudio | dunno, i couldnt even find a scsi cdrw anywhere here |
| 11:30.55 | fiberchunks | checkout plextor -- they make good scsi gear (although a bit expensive) |
| 11:31.09 | sussudio | the stupid ide burner slows down my system when it's verifying |
| 11:31.10 | fiberchunks | and it's highly linux compatible |
| 11:31.15 | sussudio | it's a plextor :-P |
| 11:31.21 | sussudio | my plextor scsi burner died |
| 11:31.22 | fiberchunks | LOL! |
| 11:31.35 | sussudio | it wasnt even 3 years old |
| 11:31.42 | sussudio | the ide one is 40/12/40 |
| 11:31.43 | fiberchunks | well it's IDE, not SCSI -- I've a scsi burner of theirs that works a treat |
| 11:32.03 | fiberchunks | had it for about 4 years now (crosses fingers) |
| 11:32.13 | sussudio | you'd think 2 ide channels would be really seperate |
| 11:32.17 | fiberchunks | try lite-on |
| 11:32.32 | sussudio | i already paid 210 euro for this plextor |
| 11:32.39 | fiberchunks | got a lite-on burner and cd player for my other system's that work marvelous |
| 11:32.43 | sussudio | about twice what the lite-on cost |
| 11:32.49 | fiberchunks | ugh - that suz |
| 11:32.55 | fiberchunks | s/suz/sux |
| 11:33.06 | sussudio | i wanted a plextor |
| 11:33.18 | sussudio | i was also very pissed off when they releases a 48x burner 2 months later |
| 11:33.35 | sussudio | ohwell. |
| 11:34.25 | fiberchunks | I used to play the 'upgrade your hardware every 2 months' game -- tired of it -- I'll keep this system until something amazing happens (such as serial IDE) |
| 11:35.14 | sussudio | primary and secundary ide onboard SHOULD be seperate, right? |
| 11:35.18 | fiberchunks | yes |
| 11:35.51 | fiberchunks | reads and writes on one channel should not interfere with the other channels performance, as far as I know |
| 11:36.03 | sussudio | well when the cd burner compares files from the cd (secundary slave) to the harddisk (primary slave) it really slows down the system |
| 11:36.29 | fiberchunks | compares, or copies |
| 11:36.36 | sussudio | if i check files on my scsi harddisk (adaptec 2940 controller) there's no slowdown at all |
| 11:36.50 | sussudio | file compare after burn |
| 11:37.32 | fiberchunks | so you're burning from the hd to the burner, and then verifying the burn -- that right? |
| 11:37.38 | sussudio | yeah |
| 11:37.43 | sussudio | under windoze |
| 11:37.50 | fiberchunks | that's your problem |
| 11:37.55 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 11:38.18 | fiberchunks | do any other operations - like disc-onthefly, slow things down? |
| 11:38.34 | sussudio | i never do that |
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| 11:38.54 | fiberchunks | and I believe that if you're verifying the burn, that you are performing a surface scan of the media, which will slow things down significantly, imho |
| 11:39.14 | sussudio | well its comparing file content |
| 11:39.45 | sussudio | i just wonder if i put a promise ide controller or something in there, it would be faster |
| 11:40.05 | sussudio | or maybe the via drivers just suck |
| 11:40.24 | fiberchunks | I'm not sure... |
| 11:41.30 | fiberchunks | how is it comparing file content? does it generate a checksum of the original and then another for the copied file? or does it do bitwise comparisons? |
| 11:41.33 | sussudio | could be that fat32 just sux |
| 11:41.39 | sussudio | dunno |
| 11:41.43 | fiberchunks | that is most certainly true |
| 11:42.00 | sussudio | but ntfs has issues with some old dos programs i still use |
| 11:42.01 | fiberchunks | but that still shouldn't affect your burn |
| 11:42.23 | fiberchunks | or rather the verification of the burn, since the media doesn't have a fat32 fs on it |
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| 11:43.30 | sussudio | win2000 wont let me set as many options as win95 did with the disk and cd drivers |
| 11:44.38 | sussudio | stuff like dma and synchronous transfers |
| 11:48.24 | fiberchunks | I'm not sure sussudio...wish I could be more help - but windows is actually now out of my league :) |
| 11:48.30 | fiberchunks | since I don't use it anymore |
| 11:48.35 | fiberchunks | and haven't for about 4 years now |
| 11:48.44 | sussudio | ohwell |
| 11:49.06 | fiberchunks | sorry, man |
| 11:49.08 | fiberchunks | :\ |
| 11:53.01 | sussudio | in other news, i seem to have not killed my optical mouse after all |
| 11:53.11 | sussudio | it became a bit sticky so i washed it |
| 11:53.18 | sussudio | with water and detergent |
| 11:53.24 | fiberchunks | ah, that's good |
| 11:53.40 | sussudio | well i couldnt take it apart..... doesnt seem to have any screws |
| 11:53.42 | fiberchunks | I'm trying to find a real good, well supported trackball for linux |
| 11:53.56 | sussudio | so i guess there was still a bit of water left in there when i first tried it |
| 11:54.06 | fiberchunks | prob just plastic prongs on the inside -- see if there's any slots on the underside |
| 11:54.08 | sussudio | i think it tried to tell me something in morse code |
| 11:54.16 | sussudio | "dont even wash me again you bastard" |
| 11:54.29 | vogon | fiberchunks: if it's USB, it should just show up as a standard HID device. |
| 11:55.14 | sussudio | i think it's one of those contructions where they just click it into place and it never comes off again |
| 11:55.22 | sussudio | (or should, anyway) |
| 11:55.43 | fiberchunks | not that vogon, but getting all the mappings and such together -- it's a pain in my tuckus. My dad just got a logitech mouseman marble, and we can't seem to map the scroll buttons (yes, buttons) to work like a scroll wheel should |
| 11:56.48 | fiberchunks | and scroll wheel mice work just dandy...it's odd |
| 11:57.24 | fiberchunks | I'm sure I'm missing a parameter in XF96Config-4 -- but I'm not sure which one, and I can't seem to find any info on that trackball <-- that's what I mean by 'support' |
| 12:15.15 | vogon | fiberchunks: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"? |
| 12:15.34 | fiberchunks | did that -- no joy -- I think the IMPS/2 driver is whacko in my distro |
| 12:18.28 | fiberchunks | I'm thinking it has something to do with the Buttons option, but I'm not sure what |
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| 13:24.18 | [TeA]- | somewone there |
| 13:25.27 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 13:33.45 | scanline | poing |
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| 14:27.59 | Doughecka | poing |
| 14:48.11 | [TeA]- | ibot ducatuctf |
| 14:48.13 | | i don't know, [TeA]- |
| 14:48.20 | [TeA]- | ibot happy christmas |
| 14:48.22 | | [TeA]-: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 14:48.25 | [TeA]- | ibot ducatictf |
| 14:49.29 | [TeA]- | lol |
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| 16:43.54 | Mayhem | hi all |
| 16:45.12 | Mayhem | Any developers conscious here? |
| 16:46.06 | Mayhem | ah, but are you conscious? :) |
| 16:46.14 | vogon | yeah, theoretically. |
| 16:46.20 | vogon | do I need to be unconscious? |
| 16:46.25 | vogon | because I've got a heavy book right here. |
| 16:47.02 | Mayhem | No, I'm fine :) Anyway, I'm currently pondering Bad Places... |
| 16:47.14 | Mayhem | In bzflag that is, bad places to drop a flag |
| 16:47.27 | vogon | *nod* |
| 16:47.54 | Mayhem | why is on a building considered a bad place for a team flag? |
| 16:48.01 | vogon | no clue. |
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| 16:48.15 | vogon | probably a relic from the days when flags weren't allowed on buildings. |
| 16:48.22 | Mayhem | hmm |
| 16:48.52 | Mayhem | I can imagine stopping superflags from being on building in a non-jumping world, but thats all |
| 16:49.04 | vogon | yeah. |
| 16:49.42 | Mayhem | anyone else? thoughts? |
| 16:50.36 | vogon | probably not much. |
| 16:50.45 | vogon | (from what I remember of the flag code, anyway.) |
| 16:50.51 | scanline | hmm |
| 16:51.11 | scanline | are there any special alignment requirements for glInterleavedArrays? |
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| 16:52.09 | victorvdl | How on earth do you get joysticks to work with BZ under Linux? |
| 16:52.27 | vogon | victorvdl: define XIJOYSTICK at compile time. |
| 16:52.45 | victorvdl | vogon: as? |
| 16:52.50 | vogon | as anything., |
| 16:52.55 | victorvdl | Ohh. |
| 16:52.58 | victorvdl | And then? |
| 16:53.05 | vogon | and then rebuild the world. |
| 16:53.09 | vogon | and it should do something. |
| 16:53.16 | vogon | exactly what, I don't know. |
| 16:53.17 | victorvdl | Something? |
| 16:53.20 | victorvdl | :-D |
| 16:53.26 | vogon | as I only looked at that code in order to rip it out. |
| 16:54.42 | victorvdl | So I would need to set up my joystick with xinput? |
| 16:54.52 | vogon | yeah. |
| 16:55.18 | victorvdl | Anyone know how to do that? |
| 16:56.24 | scanline | proton[BGDFH] has a patch to support SDL joysticks, you might bug him about that once he wakes up |
| 16:56.41 | vogon | scanline: it has to be merged with the entirety of the renderer. |
| 16:57.09 | victorvdl | BGDFH = Bastard Game Developer From Hell? |
| 16:57.15 | vogon | victorvdl: yeah. |
| 16:57.27 | victorvdl | vogon: maybe I don't want to bug him... ;-) |
| 16:57.28 | Patlabor221 | or for hire. |
| 16:57.33 | vogon | oh, damn. I see this going downhill quickly. |
| 16:57.40 | Patlabor221 | ohh he's not a real bastard |
| 16:57.45 | Patlabor221 | he just plays one on TV |
| 16:57.51 | vogon | yeah. |
| 16:57.54 | vogon | and in real life. |
| 16:58.01 | scanline | the BGDFH is mainly due to his evil ideas for jetstream's plot :) |
| 16:58.49 | vogon | evil lesbian robots from Jupiter have come here to steal Earth's supply of boots? |
| 16:59.08 | Patlabor221 | not boots, beer |
| 16:59.51 | vogon | no, hardcore lesbians don't drink beer because it reminds them of an abusive ex-boyfriend. |
| 17:00.07 | vogon | or that's at least the way my twisted logic factory thinks. |
| 17:00.44 | Patlabor221 | but they are ailen, you can't apply human emotonal states to alien minds |
| 17:00.49 | Patlabor221 | maybe it helps them forget |
| 17:00.57 | vogon | hmm. |
| 17:01.03 | vogon | good point. |
| 17:01.17 | victorvdl | What does the -joystickname option do? |
| 17:01.26 | fiberchunks | hello -- how can one determine if there are bots on a world? |
| 17:01.27 | vogon | you can't "steal" duct tape. |
| 17:01.28 | vogon | it just is. |
| 17:01.36 | bzdoug | victorvdl: names the joystick |
| 17:01.49 | victorvdl | bzdoug: as in how? |
| 17:01.49 | vogon | fiberchunks: the bots will have names like "vogon1" through "vogon99" or somesuch. |
| 17:01.59 | scanline | bzflag -joystickname Melvin |
| 17:02.20 | bzdoug | bzflag -joystickname marvin |
| 17:02.28 | bzdoug | but that would be too depressing |
| 17:02.33 | fiberchunks | vogon: in -solo mode -- same applies on a regular world? |
| 17:02.46 | bzdoug | yea |
| 17:02.52 | victorvdl | joystick: 'Melvin' no supported... ;-) |
| 17:02.52 | bzdoug | fiberchunks: there is no solo mode |
| 17:02.53 | vogon | fiberchunks: there's another way to add bots besides -solo? |
| 17:02.59 | fiberchunks | wondering cause there's two players with same IP - different ports |
| 17:03.07 | fiberchunks | bzdoug: yes there is |
| 17:03.14 | bzdoug | eh? |
| 17:03.22 | bzdoug | wheres that? |
| 17:03.28 | fiberchunks | bzflag -solo 5 (solo world with 5 robots) |
| 17:03.38 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:03.40 | bzdoug | must be new |
| 17:03.42 | fiberchunks | start a server, then exec bzflag with -solo and you'll see |
| 17:03.47 | bzdoug | oooh |
| 17:03.50 | fiberchunks | since 17e6 I think |
| 17:03.55 | bzdoug | then its not "single player" |
| 17:04.00 | vogon | fiberchunks: it's been there since 1.7e3. |
| 17:04.05 | bzdoug | your still connecting to an external server |
| 17:04.05 | vogon | if not earlier. |
| 17:04.06 | fiberchunks | ah, thx vogon |
| 17:04.18 | vogon | probably much earlier. |
| 17:04.22 | bzdoug | heh |
| 17:04.28 | Mayhem | It was taken out in 1.8 |
| 17:04.28 | vogon | fiberchunks: I'd say it's NAT or something. |
| 17:04.29 | bzdoug | but there IS a advanced bot |
| 17:04.36 | vogon | fiberchunks: or perhaps someone using multiple sessions. |
| 17:04.38 | bzdoug | Mayhem: ? |
| 17:04.47 | vogon | bzdoug: yeah. |
| 17:04.55 | vogon | bzdoug: it was taken out to make it into a separate program. |
| 17:04.56 | Mayhem | bzdoug: the bot code was ripped out of 1.8, but thats dead now so it doesn't matter |
| 17:04.58 | vogon | IIRC. |
| 17:05.04 | fiberchunks | reason I ask is cause there's 2 players on a server right now - same ip - different port -- heard of ppl writing bots and such that trawl the servers, but I'm not up on those sorts of things |
| 17:05.18 | Mayhem | fiberchunks: probably two people behind a NAT router |
| 17:05.21 | bzdoug | could be 2 people playing from the same NAT |
| 17:05.28 | fiberchunks | that's what I was thinking too |
| 17:05.33 | fiberchunks | just checking - thanks |
| 17:05.33 | Mayhem | hehe |
| 17:05.35 | bzdoug | http://people.cs.uct.ac.za/~clyness/Research/Mini/ |
| 17:06.09 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:06.16 | bzdoug | where did Chestal's bot go |
| 17:06.36 | Mayhem | hehe, cool project :) |
| 17:06.43 | bzdoug | heh |
| 17:06.46 | bzdoug | nothing there |
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| 17:07.05 | bzdoug | Cell! |
| 17:07.06 | Cell | lo, xmas |
| 17:07.34 | bzdoug | gah |
| 17:07.36 | vogon | haha. |
| 17:07.39 | Cell | xmas food is finished soon |
| 17:07.40 | bzdoug | I knew that would happen |
| 17:07.59 | bzdoug | its still eve here |
| 17:08.07 | vogon | same here. |
| 17:08.13 | Mayhem | and here |
| 17:08.17 | bzdoug | and here |
| 17:08.49 | bzdoug | aha |
| 17:08.53 | bzdoug | found Chestal's bot |
| 17:09.05 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:09.18 | Cell | tomorrow a two free days, good for programming :) |
| 17:09.19 | bzdoug | ~ducati |
| 17:09.32 | bzdoug | come on... |
| 17:09.35 | bzdoug | ~ducati |
| 17:09.44 | Cell | lol |
| 17:09.44 | bzdoug | grr |
| 17:09.47 | bzdoug | ~ducatictf |
| 17:09.57 | bzdoug | bah |
| 17:10.00 | bzdoug | where has that bot gone? |
| 17:12.04 | bzdoug | ~bzflist |
| 17:12.27 | bzdoug | there we go |
| 17:12.35 | bzdoug | ~noodleroni |
| 17:12.58 | bzdoug | ~noodleroni |
| 17:13.07 | bzdoug | yup |
| 17:14.30 | Cell | shadow volumes are faster than stencil shadows i believe |
| 17:15.09 | Cell | but have to try that out tomorrow |
| 17:16.25 | vogon | different kind of hax0ring, d00d. |
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| 17:32.15 | Cell | A good example was the recently solved 'Eternity' puzzle; the man who solved it won 1 million pounds... |
| 17:32.19 | Cell | whats taht |
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| 18:12.05 | Cell | woah, i have eaten it all, time for the presents |
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| 18:24.02 | MrApathyCream | ok, i'll bite, what is BGDFH? |
| 18:29.37 | Cell | Bastard Game Developer From Hell |
| 18:29.45 | Cell | lol |
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| 19:29.48 | Terminator | hi all |
| 19:30.04 | Terminator | i just finish making my first level on bzedit |
| 19:31.07 | Terminator | i might mail to jzaun to ask him what he thinks and if he will add to rotating server |
| 19:31.12 | Terminator | probably not |
| 19:31.20 | Terminator | but i'll give it a shot |
| 19:33.46 | Terminator | bye all |
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| 20:10.45 | jzaun | proton[BGDFH]: hows http://stats.bzflag.org/ss2.png look for a transparent hud? |
| 20:11.28 | proton[BGDFH] | what is the bar between the radar & message panel for? |
| 20:12.16 | jzaun | World timer |
| 20:12.32 | proton[BGDFH] | how does that work? |
| 20:12.59 | jzaun | The bard shrinks as the time left on the world runs out |
| 20:13.54 | proton[BGDFH] | and the big bar on the bottom? |
| 20:14.18 | jzaun | message composition area |
| 20:14.50 | proton[BGDFH] | hm |
| 20:14.55 | proton[BGDFH] | two little bars bottom right? |
| 20:15.04 | jzaun | top is shake time |
| 20:15.07 | jzaun | bottom is shots |
| 20:15.46 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E9544C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:16.30 | proton[BGDFH] | explain to me how the shots bar works |
| 20:16.51 | jzaun | brb - phone |
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| 20:17.52 | jzaun | sry about that |
| 20:18.19 | jzaun | its works like it did in 1.8, full bar, all shots, bar lessions as less shots are avalable |
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| 20:23.28 | proton[BGDFH] | hm |
| 20:23.33 | proton[BGDFH] | guess i'd have to see it |
| 20:23.49 | proton[BGDFH] | i really liked exactly how it worked in 1.8 - shows you when you'll get each shot |
| 20:24.22 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: Is it possible to get BZflag to use joysticks under linux? |
| 20:24.29 | proton[BGDFH] | victorvdl: yes |
| 20:24.34 | proton[BGDFH] | but not with the bzflag code you have |
| 20:24.37 | proton[BGDFH] | ^^ |
| 20:25.08 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: where do I get the bzflag code I don't have from? |
| 20:25.43 | proton[BGDFH] | well there's a tree built off an older e7 in a subversion repository on my machine |
| 20:26.05 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: Oh. Can I borrow your machine? ;-) |
| 20:26.25 | proton[BGDFH] | victorvdl: if you don't want to install subversion, i can make you a tarball |
| 20:26.47 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: Sure, if it supports joysticks... |
| 20:28.03 | proton[BGDFH] | its almost assuredly got its share of bugs |
| 20:28.29 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: What doesn't? |
| 20:29.44 | scanline | probably not right away... |
| 20:30.03 | scanline | It's a USB gamepad similar to the dual-analog playstation controller |
| 20:31.03 | victorvdl | Now I get to wait an hour an a half for that to dload over my 26.4 connection... |
| 20:31.27 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: Could you put in on a site somewhere so I could use my nasty agressive download manager? |
| 20:31.51 | proton[BGDFH] | k |
| 20:32.41 | victorvdl | Thanks a lot. |
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| 20:36.57 | victorvdl | Cya proton[BGDFH]: I gtg. |
| 20:37.24 | scanline | proton[BGDFH]: once you get that battlezone-style two joystick mode working I must try it with this controller :) |
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| 20:43.44 | proton[BGDFH] | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/lge-port.tar.gz |
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| 20:46.21 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:46.26 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot ducatictf |
| 20:46.36 | [TeA|TrEE] | uff |
| 20:49.59 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 20:53.52 | MrApathyCream | sheesh where is everyone? did i miss something? |
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| 21:04.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 21:04.21 | [TeA|TrEE] | most are with her kids |
| 21:04.28 | [TeA|TrEE] | Christmas time here |
| 21:06.06 | MrApathyCream | oops, dang i gotta go shoppin.... brb |
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| 21:25.21 | Cell | lo |
| 21:27.58 | proton[BGDFH] | ug |
| 21:29.24 | Cell | Cell dos not know what he can do now |
| 21:30.32 | Cell | so i should just eat smth again |
| 21:32.56 | Cell | lol |
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| 21:38.12 | Cell | lo,patlabor221 |
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| 21:43.28 | Cell | http://www.mathpuzzle.com/eternity.html |
| 21:43.52 | Cell | are ther more such puzzles where you could win 1 million dollar if you solve it? |
| 21:44.55 | Cell | like the two guys did that solved the eternity puzzle |
| 21:45.12 | Cell | an got 1 million $ reward, cool |
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| 21:52.53 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: So, did you put that joysticked version of bz somewhere? |
| 22:01.30 | proton[BGDFH] | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/lge-port.tar.gz |
| 22:01.41 | proton[BGDFH] | actually that is -only- joystick |
| 22:02.01 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: Hmm? |
| 22:02.10 | proton[BGDFH] | mouse/keyboard movement won't work |
| 22:02.27 | victorvdl | proton[BGDFH]: Ohh, fun. |
| 22:04.02 | victorvdl | Thanks, proton. |
| 22:14.28 | tvon | Anyone know a good site for C++ reference info? |
| 22:19.26 | [TeA|TrEE] | :)nope |
| 22:19.26 | [TeA|TrEE] | sry |
| 22:23.19 | fiberchunks | try cplusplus.com |
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| 22:24.47 | niksie | Hi |
| 22:25.03 | niksie | does 1.7g0 work on macosx? |
| 22:25.51 | niksie | when I attempt to compile on my 10.2 system it gives really weird errors.. |
| 22:26.17 | niksie | wait.. |
| 22:27.02 | niksie | should I update to cvs? |
| 22:27.15 | niksie | or should I post the errors to my webspace? |
| 22:36.02 | [TeA|TrEE] | NiGhT all |
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| 23:14.54 | Cell | lo |
| 23:15.38 | Cell | we have a set of 10 3d models {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9} |
| 23:17.13 | Cell | we have 3 textures, the models groupep by Texture are: {0,1,2} {3,4} and {5,6,7,8,9} |
| 23:18.13 | Cell | but we also have 2 lightmaps, the models grouped by lightmap are: {0,2,3,7,8} and {1,4,5,6,9} |
| 23:18.33 | Cell | now we want to draw the models each frame |
| 23:18.54 | Cell | but we want as few texture changes/bindings as possible |
| 23:19.18 | Cell | how do i compute the best drawing sequence |
| 23:23.02 | Cell | for example a sequenze could be: bind lmap1 bind tmap1 draw {0,2} bind tmap2 draw {3} bind tmap3 draw {7,8} bind lmap2 draw {5,6,9} bind tmap2 draw {4} bind tmap1 draw {1} |
| 23:23.50 | Cell | where tmapi is the ith texturemap and lmapi is the ith lightmap |
| 23:24.57 | Cell | how do i calc the optimal drawing sequence generally? |
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| 23:54.38 | proton[BGDFH] | hah |
| 23:54.43 | proton[BGDFH] | spiff wants to be "friends" |
| 23:55.00 | sussudio | i hate friends |
| 23:55.12 | proton[BGDFH] | said he's willing to forgive me |
| 23:55.16 | proton[BGDFH] | (wtf) |
| 23:55.36 | fiberchunks | hello all |
| 23:55.44 | sussudio | lo chunks |
| 23:55.53 | sussudio | I AM THE IRON MAN |
| 23:55.56 | fiberchunks | merry xmas eve, or xmas if you live in GMT + time |
| 23:56.12 | fiberchunks | sabbath --cool |
| 23:56.27 | proton[BGDFH] | i don't think he realizes that he was the one who started all this mess |
| 23:56.43 | sussudio | i dont think he's even notice if he shat his pants |
| 23:56.47 | Chestal | protom: I'm in christmas mood, so I'll forgive you, too :-) |
| 23:56.49 | fiberchunks | proton[BGDFH]: came in on that conversation ending -- what a mess |
| 23:57.02 | proton[BGDFH] | Chestal: thanks bud! |
| 23:57.34 | proton[BGDFH] | i told him that i wasn't gonna be friends because of his style |
| 23:57.35 | *** topic/#bzflag by BZFlag -> 1.7g0 "Holy Dancing Monkeys" released! Buy now and get two for the price of one! http://BZFlag.org/ || Updated BZEdit Windows http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html || Happy holidays |
| 23:57.49 | sussudio | spiff has style? |
| 23:57.54 | Chestal | not an enjoyable christmas for me so far, I've been sick for the last 33 hours |
| 23:57.57 | proton[BGDFH] | well, lack of it |
| 23:58.07 | proton[BGDFH] | things like calling every single shot lucky put me off |
| 23:58.15 | sussudio | i dont think lagging is a style |
| 23:58.23 | proton[BGDFH] | people who play against him must be the luckiest people in the world |
| 23:58.57 | BZFlag | doesn't it make you feel lucky? |
| 23:59.01 | Chestal | fiber: they won't stay in |
| 23:59.24 | fiberchunks | ooo, that is too bad -- much like my nick, I assume -- bummer |
