| 00:00.27 | jzaun | BZFlag I'll work on it then... just be awhile before I post a patch then |
| 00:01.03 | BZFlag | feel free to post patches in progress. others may help out with the cleanup. |
| 00:01.20 | jzaun | I've removed most of the transparent code :-( |
| 00:01.30 | BZFlag | or perhaps I should say, please post patchs in progress. ;-) |
| 00:01.39 | sussudio | would it be possible to return an indicator of a server's state (many users with high lag, high cpu usage) to the list and add a green, yellow or red thingie to that? |
| 00:01.59 | jzaun | How long till the next release? would it be possible once this works to put it in CVS and add the transparent panel back in after that? |
| 00:02.07 | BZFlag | sussudio: anythings possible. |
| 00:02.15 | jzaun | or should it remain in a patch till is "Just Works" |
| 00:02.22 | sussudio | some servers just evaporate when you connect to them |
| 00:02.25 | jzaun | not sure on your CVS pollicy |
| 00:02.36 | BZFlag | normal mode is it's a patch till it works. |
| 00:03.22 | BZFlag | course I've been known to take broken patches, fix them, and then apply them. ;-) but the larger the brokenness the smaller the chance I'll get to it. |
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| 00:03.54 | jzaun | its not broak (when I post it) it will just be missing the transparent mode :-) |
| 00:04.24 | jzaun | also, my code still as the SB patch, so if thats not going to make it CVS I need to know to remove it |
| 00:05.16 | jzaun | heh, my tree is very different than CVS now... at least for the client :-) |
| 00:05.28 | BZFlag | I'll try to look at the SB patch tonight. |
| 00:05.50 | jzaun | Enjoy dinner :-) |
| 00:05.57 | sussudio | dont flags taste bad? |
| 00:06.15 | remco | eating? |
| 00:07.45 | remco | ok, back to some fragging |
| 00:07.48 | remco | cu |
| 01:07.18 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i'll probably have a patch for you to review in 30-60 minutes |
| 01:14.00 | bzdoug | what sort of patch? |
| 01:14.34 | bzdoug | captain_proton: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/19/145230&mode=thread |
| 01:16.02 | captain_proton | bzdoug: the patchy kind |
| 01:16.12 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:16.46 | captain_proton | bzdoug: i've seen those before, even started researching to build my own, but the chips they use are -very- hard to find |
| 01:17.47 | captain_proton | also, because its LVD scsi it uses a twisted pair cable, and i'm not sure how that would work as board traces |
| 01:21.51 | captain_proton | ergh |
| 01:23.34 | BZFlag | captain_proton: headed out for a while. |
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| 01:52.21 | captain_proton | what does this do: |
| 01:52.30 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:52.39 | captain_proton | i'm confused as to its purpose |
| 01:56.52 | Patlabor221 | looks like it's killing an old list and makeing a new set of lists, like to keep them sequental |
| 02:21.11 | bzdoug | weee, made it to lvl 8 on wulfram |
| 02:26.33 | Patlabor221 | I made a CMOBList class |
| 02:33.08 | captain_proton | CMOB? |
| 02:33.34 | Patlabor221 | MOB = mobile object |
| 02:33.57 | Patlabor221 | aka stuff that's not nailed down and get client side prediction |
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| 02:41.50 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
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| 03:06.08 | Nicole | lo |
| 03:06.18 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 03:06.28 | Nicole | how goes it here? |
| 03:06.44 | Patlabor221 | it goes? |
| 03:06.50 | Nicole | heh |
| 03:07.30 | Nicole | ibot: hello |
| 03:07.30 | | hey |
| 03:07.40 | Nicole | lol, i'm so bored |
| 03:07.59 | Patlabor221 | again? |
| 03:08.07 | Nicole | aren't i always bored? |
| 03:08.21 | Patlabor221 | so it seemed |
| 03:08.27 | Nicole | yes |
| 03:08.31 | Nicole | ooo sour skittles.... |
| 03:09.58 | Nicole | ever had those? |
| 03:10.19 | Nicole | they're like regular skittles with a sour coating |
| 03:10.22 | Nicole | pretty good |
| 03:10.24 | Nicole | but really sour |
| 03:10.29 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 03:10.37 | Nicole | a huh |
| 03:12.05 | Patlabor221 | not goin out on a friday night? |
| 03:12.17 | captain_proton | hey look its friday |
| 03:12.25 | Nicole | lol |
| 03:12.44 | Nicole | no cuz i'm sick |
| 03:12.47 | Patlabor221 | that it is |
| 03:13.27 | Nicole | hmmm |
| 03:13.31 | Nicole | friday rules |
| 03:14.20 | Patlabor221 | yet it is booring? |
| 03:14.37 | sussudio | what's changed in ShotStrategy.cxx in cvs? |
| 03:15.19 | Nicole | yes |
| 03:15.29 | Nicole | at least i don't have anymore school i mean come on |
| 03:16.00 | Patlabor221 | yes holiday break, I forgot about that |
| 03:16.40 | Nicole | a huh |
| 03:18.57 | Nicole | :P |
| 03:20.10 | Patlabor221 | is it going anywhere? |
| 03:22.06 | Nicole | nooooooooooo |
| 03:22.10 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i think so |
| 03:22.13 | scanline | damn I love the lighting in the LOTR movies |
| 03:22.20 | Nicole | i wanna see that so bad |
| 03:22.23 | captain_proton | scanline: :) |
| 03:22.32 | Nicole | did you like it/ |
| 03:22.35 | Nicole | *? |
| 03:22.37 | Patlabor221 | you shoudl go si ti, it's very very good |
| 03:22.43 | scanline | Nicole: indeed I did |
| 03:22.53 | Nicole | gah, am i the only one here who hasn't seen it? |
| 03:23.08 | Patlabor221 | "shall I decribe it for you, or find you a box" |
| 03:23.11 | scanline | hey cool... 9 minutes and I'll have won Hydro Thunder on ebay |
| 03:23.19 | Nicole | lol |
| 03:23.22 | Nicole | congrats |
| 03:23.25 | captain_proton | scanline: hydro thunder? |
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| 03:23.33 | Patlabor221 | game |
| 03:23.37 | scanline | captain_proton: spiffy arcade racing game, ported to dreamcast |
| 03:23.46 | Nicole | hmmm, thats a fun game |
| 03:23.52 | scanline | $5.50 |
| 03:23.56 | captain_proton | scanline: nifty |
| 03:24.02 | Nicole | spiffy |
| 03:24.12 | Patlabor221 | racing->boats |
| 03:24.25 | captain_proton | scanline: i -have- to build a little diode arrangement so we can dreamcast without creating a ground loop into my tv tuner |
| 03:24.28 | scanline | hence the 'hydro' part |
| 03:24.34 | scanline | captain_proton: hehe, ok |
| 03:24.55 | Patlabor221 | you know you can just get burns for DC games |
| 03:25.15 | Patlabor221 | without moding it |
| 03:25.45 | scanline | only if the game is less than 650MB |
| 03:25.57 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 03:26.11 | Patlabor221 | not many games filled the GDRom |
| 03:26.22 | Patlabor221 | I was sooooo suprized when I found that out |
| 03:27.07 | scanline | I bought my dreamcast to have a SH4 linux development platform.. I have a bunch of burned CDs with emulators. At $5 a game on ebay, I might as well just get the original GD-ROM :) |
| 03:27.10 | captain_proton | scanline: will you be online all break? |
| 03:27.55 | scanline | captain_proton: my family's going on a road trip to visit relatives from the day after christmas to new year's eve morning, I'll have very little internet if any during that |
| 03:28.07 | scanline | I think I'll be able to keep navi up |
| 03:29.30 | captain_proton | sheesh, this is taking forever to download 202 |
| 03:29.34 | captain_proton | 4mb in 10 minutes |
| 03:29.49 | scanline | oh, 203 is transcoded |
| 03:31.29 | scanline | FTTH? |
| 03:32.07 | captain_proton | fiber to the home |
| 03:32.11 | scanline | ahh |
| 03:32.28 | captain_proton | they've got it in 10% of tokyo |
| 03:33.58 | scanline | it's funny, the game levels themselves are relatively simple, but they have these really complex background scenes |
| 03:33.59 | Patlabor221 | that sounds dirty |
| 03:34.17 | *** part/#bzflag Nicole (~Nicole@204.32.200.174) |
| 03:34.45 | Patlabor221 | everyone tells me I should get that for the cube |
| 03:35.00 | scanline | it's a fun game |
| 03:35.42 | scanline | the cube is really nice.. handles curved surfaces, refraction, and depth of field with no problem :) |
| 03:35.49 | Patlabor221 | supper smash brothers is kinda fun |
| 03:35.58 | scanline | I liked the original super smash better |
| 03:36.07 | scanline | N64.. yumm.. |
| 03:36.15 | Patlabor221 | I was not that impresed with the new metroid, it's prety and all |
| 03:36.15 | captain_proton | why aren't there more video games that look like anime? |
| 03:36.17 | Patlabor221 | but gameplay it's funny |
| 03:36.52 | scanline | captain_proton: The only game I can think of that was all cel-shaded was Jet Grind Radio for the dreamcast |
| 03:37.07 | scanline | I played that on carpman's dreamcast at a-kon |
| 03:37.09 | Patlabor221 | the dragonsl lair one is too |
| 03:37.24 | Patlabor221 | jet set raidio future is good on the x-box |
| 03:37.46 | Patlabor221 | PSO has a very anime feel |
| 03:38.25 | captain_proton | it doesn't even have to be cel-shaded |
| 03:38.28 | captain_proton | just a certain style |
| 03:38.34 | scanline | mmm.. and the cube has soft shadows everywhere |
| 03:38.50 | Patlabor221 | woudld that not be up to the game? not the hardware |
| 03:39.06 | Patlabor221 | it's realy just a GF3 vs a Radion |
| 03:39.13 | scanline | yes, but the games I've seen so far all use shadows very well |
| 03:39.26 | Patlabor221 | halo has nice shadows |
| 03:39.29 | scanline | I'm thinking nintendo's libraries they give developers make it easy to have good lighting |
| 03:39.55 | Patlabor221 | have you seen the trailer for halo2? |
| 03:40.10 | captain_proton | scanline: we'll just have to show them what can be done on whatever graphics card is out in a few years ^^ |
| 03:41.04 | scanline | captain_proton: hehe |
| 03:41.18 | scanline | Patlabor221: nope.. and I've only played halo once |
| 03:41.35 | scanline | xbox controller is... blehhhh |
| 03:41.43 | scanline | especially for a FPS |
| 03:41.48 | Patlabor221 | ohh the trailer is realy nice, shows all the fun you can have with shaders |
| 03:42.00 | Patlabor221 | it takes a bit of geting used to but I like it now |
| 03:42.18 | Patlabor221 | analog controls for movement AND targeting, it's great |
| 03:42.25 | Patlabor221 | tho I do use a 3rd party contorler |
| 03:42.50 | hardwire | yay |
| 03:43.13 | hardwire | one of my drives with all my stuff on it died :) |
| 03:43.13 | hardwire | wee |
| 03:43.23 | hardwire | noseburn? |
| 03:43.23 | scanline | no RAID-5? |
| 03:43.43 | hardwire | naw |
| 03:43.48 | hardwire | kinda silly with a single drive |
| 03:43.52 | scanline | ah |
| 03:43.56 | scanline | -rw-r--r-- 1 micah users 377725896 Dec 20 12:28 202_in_the_line_of_duty.divx.avi |
| 03:43.56 | scanline | -rw-r--r-- 1 micah users 378433428 Dec 20 14:39 203_prisoners.divx.avi |
| 03:44.11 | scanline | captain_proton: how bad is my upstream today? |
| 03:44.25 | Patlabor221 | scanline |
| 03:44.25 | Patlabor221 | http://halo.bungie.org/misc/halo2trailermirrors.html |
| 03:44.37 | captain_proton | scanline: hmm, grabbed 18 meg in 15 minutes |
| 03:44.59 | scanline | Patlabor221: I don't think I can play either of those formats |
| 03:45.17 | scanline | oh, didn't see the mpeg |
| 03:45.31 | Patlabor221 | bottom |
| 03:45.36 | Patlabor221 | mpeg |
| 03:45.38 | Patlabor221 | and mpeg2 |
| 03:45.45 | scanline | yeah, I noticed that... |
| 03:46.45 | captain_proton | the middle section in 'chronic' is so hypnotic... |
| 03:47.28 | captain_proton | haha |
| 03:47.35 | scanline | grr... what most people call "motion blur" on opengl sites is just wrong... |
| 03:47.41 | scanline | I noticed :) |
| 03:51.51 | scanline | Bah! The halo trailer in "mpeg" is actually mpeg with a quicktime wrapper that mplayer and xine both fail to understand |
| 03:52.02 | hardwire | heh |
| 03:52.06 | Patlabor221 | suk ass |
| 03:52.17 | scanline | hardwire: that's the one that I got |
| 03:52.27 | hardwire | but mplayer groks quicktime :) |
| 03:52.35 | scanline | usually.. it doesn't like this one |
| 03:53.01 | hardwire | shit |
| 03:53.08 | hardwire | definatly lost most of /usr/share |
| 03:53.21 | hardwire | Ijust want /home to be happy |
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| 03:54.35 | scanline | heh |
| 03:54.41 | scanline | creative nick... |
| 03:55.22 | sussudio | ban needs an update. |
| 03:55.44 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_proton] by ChanServ |
| 03:55.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b xx*!*@*] by captain_proton |
| 03:55.50 | *** kick/#bzflag [xx-------!~jupiter@12-253-125-169.client.attbi.com] by captain_proton (captain_proton) |
| 03:55.57 | sussudio | yay |
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| 03:56.40 | sussudio | ... |
| 03:57.06 | sussudio | aol boy: you're unwelcome here. get it into your head. |
| 03:57.07 | hardwire | scanline: did you grab custom sex? |
| 03:57.19 | hardwire | nows your chance |
| 03:57.19 | scanline | hardwire: apparently |
| 03:58.01 | scanline | ah. the windows media version plays in mplayer |
| 03:58.21 | captain_proton | chat.ircnet.org makes it hard to select certain people |
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| 04:03.06 | hardwire | scanline: the Quicktime format (27 mb, 480x288) |
| 04:03.09 | hardwire | works well with mplay4r |
| 04:03.13 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:03.15 | hardwire | looks good too |
| 04:03.55 | scanline | was a nice trailer, but doesn't tell you much about the game play |
| 04:04.19 | Patlabor221 | it was just meant to show engine footage |
| 04:04.20 | Patlabor221 | not play |
| 04:04.33 | scanline | how do you know that was realtime rendered? |
| 04:04.46 | Patlabor221 | they didn't say it was realtime renderd |
| 04:04.54 | Patlabor221 | but that it was inital enggine footage |
| 04:04.59 | Patlabor221 | not comercal render |
| 04:05.08 | scanline | ah, ok |
| 04:05.22 | Patlabor221 | I think it means it was engine footage that was set to render out to a movie |
| 04:05.28 | Patlabor221 | with preset anims |
| 04:05.51 | Patlabor221 | they say when it's done an optimized it will run realtime |
| 04:05.58 | Patlabor221 | things still a year away |
| 04:09.42 | hardwire | wow |
| 04:09.46 | hardwire | halo2 sure looks |
| 04:09.46 | hardwire | well |
| 04:09.48 | hardwire | I dunno |
| 04:09.51 | hardwire | :) |
| 04:10.09 | hardwire | that was the most useless trailer I have ever seen |
| 04:10.18 | captain_proton | it looks like a lot of work put towards a crappy kind of game :) |
| 04:10.32 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:10.39 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:11.08 | captain_proton | can you tell that i'm a huge FPS fan? |
| 04:11.22 | Patlabor221 | you own like 50 of them right? |
| 04:11.23 | hardwire | you like frames per second? |
| 04:11.31 | captain_proton | first-person-shooter |
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| 04:11.36 | hardwire | oh |
| 04:11.37 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:11.42 | captain_proton | and frames per second is an outdated name |
| 04:11.50 | Patlabor221 | tho I still play more PSO then anything |
| 04:11.52 | hardwire | flips per sycho |
| 04:11.55 | captain_proton | as of a few weeks ago, it is to always be known as "frame hertz" |
| 04:12.11 | hardwire | ok |
| 04:12.19 | hardwire | well |
| 04:12.24 | hardwire | I wasn't faxed the memo |
| 04:12.24 | scanline | oh, I should change "FPS" to "FHZ" in pgserver |
| 04:12.40 | Patlabor221 | furlongs per fortnight |
| 04:12.42 | captain_proton | FHz ... gotta get it correct |
| 04:12.50 | scanline | ah, right |
| 04:13.05 | hardwire | fhuzz |
| 04:13.39 | vogon | haha. |
| 04:13.51 | vogon | frame hertz. |
| 04:14.19 | Patlabor221 | it's legacy now, it's doomed to live forevva |
| 04:14.50 | scanline | captain_proton: so, found that divx of The Two Towers yet? :) |
| 04:15.20 | hardwire | bah.. my roomate has been downloading it for days |
| 04:16.05 | captain_proton | hardwire: it has to be a screener tho - cams suck too much |
| 04:16.33 | hardwire | yeh |
| 04:16.50 | hardwire | I just don't understand why he is burdoning my net connection with it |
| 04:16.59 | hardwire | so |
| 04:17.01 | hardwire | he is an idiot too |
| 04:17.09 | hardwire | we are all going.. he saw it yesterday |
| 04:17.13 | hardwire | and he is gonna sneak in tonight |
| 04:17.14 | hardwire | ??? |
| 04:17.23 | hardwire | where exactly is mr sneakypants gonna sit? |
| 04:17.31 | captain_proton | scanline: i feel so bad about that screener that you have :) |
| 04:17.43 | scanline | oh? |
| 04:17.43 | Patlabor221 | scan, get the extended version |
| 04:17.53 | captain_proton | scanline: because of the number of people it spread to |
| 04:17.55 | scanline | Patlabor221: I know, my friend Chris has been telling me to :) |
| 04:18.14 | Patlabor221 | the stuff on how they did the special effects is realy neat |
| 04:18.21 | scanline | I'm sure I'll get it on DVD soon enough. LOTR is too good to not have on DVD |
| 04:19.11 | hardwire | we have 3 different packages of FOTR |
| 04:19.28 | hardwire | the standard.. extended.. and collector something or other |
| 04:20.00 | Patlabor221 | not much dif between exended and collector |
| 04:20.05 | Patlabor221 | just an extra disk |
| 04:20.11 | hardwire | I dunno.. personally |
| 04:20.14 | Patlabor221 | with some national geographic thing |
| 04:20.16 | Patlabor221 | and some bookends |
| 04:20.26 | hardwire | I can only take watching it it X amount of times |
| 04:20.35 | hardwire | 5th element.. on the other hand... I can watch forever |
| 04:20.44 | hardwire | even got used to Chris Tucker |
| 04:20.57 | hardwire | oh hell yah |
| 04:20.58 | Patlabor221 | MUUUTTTIIII PASSSSSSS |
| 04:21.03 | hardwire | the three disc set |
| 04:22.51 | hardwire | err |
| 04:22.53 | hardwire | 1c |
| 04:22.57 | captain_proton | ick, ext2 |
| 04:22.59 | hardwire | about as long as 1b |
| 04:23.01 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:23.13 | hardwire | captain_proton: I don't have ext3fsck :) its the same |
| 04:23.24 | hardwire | but.. overall you probably ick on ext(2|3) |
| 04:23.29 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 04:23.44 | captain_proton | just a little |
| 04:23.53 | hardwire | captain_proton: don't matter what fs.. half the drive is missing from bad blocks |
| 04:24.08 | captain_proton | what happened? smoke get out? |
| 04:24.12 | hardwire | no |
| 04:24.19 | hardwire | this is the most staticy house in the world |
| 04:24.31 | hardwire | I tried to go to a net mounted partition on this machine.. |
| 04:24.33 | hardwire | didn't work |
| 04:24.41 | hardwire | looked at it funny |
| 04:24.42 | captain_proton | static shouldn't make blocks bad |
| 04:24.44 | hardwire | found /home was gone |
| 04:25.23 | hardwire | it can make them "gone" |
| 04:25.55 | captain_proton | oofa |
| 04:25.58 | hardwire | esp if you have stuff constantly logging all over the drive |
| 04:26.17 | captain_proton | my plot boy got a girlfriend and hasn't been in the mood to write depressing stuff |
| 04:26.29 | captain_proton | "Yeah.......I started writing, and a sonnet came out" |
| 04:26.31 | hardwire | write what.. ? |
| 04:26.36 | scanline | find a plot boy that just got dumped :) |
| 04:26.43 | captain_proton | hardwire: the story for jetstream |
| 04:26.47 | jzaun | captain_proton: when putting a patch on SF would you guys rather have individual files or one tgz? adding updates would be easier with individual files, but there are 44 files |
| 04:26.51 | hardwire | never seen jetstream |
| 04:27.05 | captain_proton | hardwire: http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/ |
| 04:27.23 | scanline | hardwire: captain_proton and my game project... an obsession to rival pgserver :) |
| 04:27.40 | scanline | It doesn't look like much yet, but we have big plans |
| 04:28.15 | hardwire | captain_proton: in the mood to have a graphics guy? |
| 04:28.23 | scanline | =) |
| 04:28.58 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:29.12 | hardwire | anyhoot.. I didn't think mylar would shock me |
| 04:29.19 | captain_proton | hardwire: we'll accept anyone - right now we have 3 graphics guys =) |
| 04:29.25 | hardwire | when I put a etherboot floppy in this machine.. the floppy disk shocked me |
| 04:29.31 | hardwire | captain_proton: heh |
| 04:29.37 | hardwire | just lemme know if you need anything |
| 04:29.40 | scanline | hardwire: if it was a static zap, you could find another disk of the same model and swap the controller board out |
| 04:29.41 | captain_proton | err |
| 04:29.44 | captain_proton | 3 including you |
| 04:29.57 | hardwire | scanline: which i have :) |
| 04:30.00 | captain_proton | noone else has been brave enough to approach |
| 04:30.07 | hardwire | the drive is functioning however |
| 04:30.22 | hardwire | brave enough to approach? .. God? |
| 04:30.26 | scanline | We've been presenting this to the local game dev club, but that's more successful as a scare tactic than as a recruiting tactic |
| 04:30.43 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:31.02 | hardwire | fudgywuggles |
| 04:31.13 | scanline | this gamedev club is known for such renowned titles as.. WinTetris! |
| 04:31.27 | captain_proton | and....L33TWAR |
| 04:31.30 | hardwire | just avoid them.. IMHO |
| 04:31.34 | Patlabor221 | and don't foreget the upcoming "lame ass rpg" |
| 04:31.46 | hardwire | actually |
| 04:31.50 | captain_proton | hardwire: nahhh - its fun to see their faces when we demo |
| 04:31.55 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:32.09 | hardwire | la |
| 04:32.10 | hardwire | la! |
| 04:32.11 | hardwire | lala |
| 04:32.17 | hardwire | I want my hard drive to be happy |
| 04:32.19 | scanline | If we're lucky we might get someone to help, or at least keep us in mind when they try to get jobs doing game development. hehe |
| 04:33.19 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:33.24 | hardwire | I just mounted it while its doing stuff |
| 04:33.26 | hardwire | read only of course |
| 04:37.22 | hardwire | so |
| 04:37.51 | hardwire | I am gonna hook the trainer port of a futaba rc controller up to a pic and have it interperate the serial port |
| 04:38.09 | hardwire | and controll an rc helicopter with my playstation controller |
| 04:38.16 | hardwire | or this massive huge flightstick |
| 04:38.49 | hardwire | ok |
| 04:38.53 | hardwire | you guys would be the ones to ask |
| 04:39.18 | hardwire | I wanna hook libavcodec up to a gl system or something similar |
| 04:39.28 | hardwire | and have a custom gl osd on top of the video |
| 04:39.44 | hardwire | anybody have experience/mad skillz enough advise on that? |
| 04:39.46 | scanline | that would be somewhat slow, but doable |
| 04:39.50 | hardwire | yeh |
| 04:39.58 | hardwire | actually I get 15fps with a gf4 |
| 04:40.02 | hardwire | 640x480 |
| 04:40.09 | hardwire | with vo_gl under mplayer |
| 04:40.12 | captain_proton | the problem isn't drawing the polygons |
| 04:40.19 | captain_proton | its the bandwidth to texture memory |
| 04:40.21 | hardwire | its updating the texture |
| 04:40.34 | hardwire | ok |
| 04:40.35 | hardwire | then.. |
| 04:40.39 | hardwire | on;y where the osd is |
| 04:40.41 | hardwire | update texture |
| 04:40.42 | scanline | I get about 30fps playing ZSNES in opengl |
| 04:40.48 | hardwire | and everywhere else use yuv overlay |
| 04:41.01 | captain_proton | hardwire: i don't know of any graphics driver that can do that |
| 04:41.13 | hardwire | the graphics card wouldn't do that |
| 04:41.25 | hardwire | you can send overlay to a card.. like a bluescreen |
| 04:41.31 | scanline | would probably be faster to render the OSD to the YUV overlay |
| 04:41.36 | hardwire | basically just updating er.. gl dirty rects :) |
| 04:41.49 | hardwire | scanline: I was thinking about that too .. |
| 04:42.18 | hardwire | do you think you could use the opengl aspect to render something offscreen then blit it into the yuv OSD layer? |
| 04:42.24 | scanline | we're doing something sort of like that in jetstream... it can take the rendered video, downsample it in hardware, then convert to YUV and compress to disk in software |
| 04:42.44 | hardwire | so.. thats a yes |
| 04:42.49 | scanline | you could use the backbuffer of an opengl context |
| 04:42.56 | hardwire | hmm |
| 04:43.02 | scanline | there's no real offscreen rendering that's portable AFAIK |
| 04:43.13 | hardwire | cause I was hoping to put some progress meters.. text readouts and a few other things on top of video |
| 04:43.21 | hardwire | most of it I could optimize for 2d use |
| 04:43.25 | scanline | why use OpenGL for that? |
| 04:43.41 | hardwire | but there are a few things I need on top that are gonna need to be quickly drawn in gl |
| 04:44.04 | hardwire | scanline: for the sub project.. show an overlay of the subs status on top in a corner |
| 04:44.16 | hardwire | while viewing the stereo cameras in both eyes |
| 04:44.21 | hardwire | on the vstereo glasses |
| 04:44.27 | hardwire | s/vstereo/stereo/ |
| 04:44.51 | captain_proton | how do you get stereo channels out of a video? |
| 04:44.54 | hardwire | also for doing things like ploted estimations and map overlay on top of the video |
| 04:45.05 | hardwire | captain_proton: you take two cameras.. and.. viola |
| 04:45.16 | hardwire | then to view them |
| 04:45.22 | hardwire | take two vga connectors.. and viola |
| 04:45.31 | scanline | shutter glasses, or two separate displays? |
| 04:45.32 | captain_proton | hardwire: sounds like you need to get an SGI workstation ;-) |
| 04:45.42 | hardwire | the vr glasses have 800x600 30degree fov seperated lcds |
| 04:45.52 | hardwire | captain_proton: heh |
| 04:45.53 | hardwire | no danke |
| 04:46.02 | hardwire | scanline: me too.. they come in when we get funded :( |
| 04:46.16 | captain_proton | hardwire: SGIs are the only ones with the texture bandwidth to do such a thing |
| 04:46.18 | scanline | what sort of funding? |
| 04:46.30 | hardwire | happy funding? |
| 04:46.55 | scanline | Government Super Happy Funding? Or Educational Super Happy Funding? |
| 04:46.58 | hardwire | military funding.. VC funding.. anything |
| 04:47.02 | scanline | ahh |
| 04:47.08 | hardwire | just want money |
| 04:47.14 | hardwire | nerd mercs for hire |
| 04:47.17 | scanline | Just Want Money Funding Inc. |
| 04:47.28 | hardwire | yeh |
| 04:48.30 | hardwire | ok |
| 04:48.33 | hardwire | time to go to LOTR TTT |
| 04:48.34 | hardwire | bbl |
| 04:48.44 | hardwire | captain_proton: I am serious about helping wwwith graphics |
| 04:48.51 | hardwire | the more I learn.. the bigger my wavable dick is |
| 04:48.55 | scanline | Welcome to Rivendel, Mr. Anderson. |
| 04:48.56 | captain_proton | scanline: it is! it is! |
| 04:49.01 | scanline | w00t!! |
| 04:49.10 | hardwire | scanline: not funny.. roomies in the other room watching the matrix |
| 04:49.11 | captain_proton | hinge! open the iris |
| 04:49.30 | scanline | yay! |
| 04:49.44 | captain_proton | hahahaha |
| 04:49.58 | captain_proton | hardwire: we'll get you set up with everything later :) |
| 04:50.44 | scanline | mm, if you close your eyes it almost feels like you're eating runny eggs |
| 04:50.57 | sussudio | runny kentucky eggs |
| 04:53.51 | MrApathyCream | looks like it's unanimous, cappy was easiest to find: http://bzbb.homelinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=131&highlight= |
| 04:56.36 | scanline | I'm disappointed, no secret messages in the HTML source? |
| 04:56.48 | MrApathyCream | sorry |
| 04:58.16 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: hehe |
| 05:00.29 | scanline | ugh |
| 05:01.18 | fiberchunks | evening all |
| 05:04.02 | fiberchunks | and, night all -- too tired |
| 05:20.40 | MrApathyCream | spiff's flame? |
| 05:21.10 | captain_proton | in gerbil's thread |
| 05:21.17 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 05:27.40 | captain_proton | bah, noone i know is playing right now |
| 05:32.04 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: gotta run this batch by riker first |
| 05:32.06 | captain_proton | :P |
| 05:33.05 | captain_proton | eeegh |
| 05:33.15 | captain_proton | just discovered a pointer comparison within a managed array |
| 05:33.31 | MrApathyCream | batch by riker? |
| 05:34.29 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@dsl-65-184-182-9.telocity.com) |
| 05:34.43 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i mean run the "batch of changes" by riker |
| 05:34.52 | MrApathyCream | mmm |
| 05:35.11 | MrApathyCream | that long, hub |
| 05:54.44 | captain_proton | yikes |
| 05:54.48 | captain_proton | so much pointer arithmetic |
| 05:55.09 | scanline | are ye easily scared by such things? |
| 05:55.21 | captain_proton | scanline: i am when one of the pointers is in a managed array |
| 05:55.36 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:55.44 | scanline | like a std::vector? |
| 05:55.50 | captain_proton | yeup |
| 05:55.55 | scanline | aren't the elements still guaranteed to be contiguous? |
| 05:56.01 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 05:56.06 | scanline | so what's the problem? |
| 05:56.11 | captain_proton | well this isn't pointer -arithmetic- |
| 05:56.14 | captain_proton | its pointer comparisons |
| 05:56.32 | captain_proton | if the array changes, then strange strange bugs could arise |
| 05:56.35 | scanline | as long as the pointers are in the same block of allocated memory that's perfectly fine |
| 05:56.42 | captain_proton | s/changes/changes at the wrong moment/ |
| 06:02.07 | sussudio | wow! |
| 06:02.09 | sussudio | a new cheat |
| 06:02.12 | sussudio | this is fucking stupid |
| 06:02.16 | scanline | hmm? |
| 06:02.22 | sussudio | "Lt. D" sits there on hashmark.net |
| 06:02.33 | sussudio | flickering on and off, increasing his score somehow |
| 06:02.37 | sussudio | without actually shooting |
| 06:02.48 | scanline | haha.. what's the point of that? |
| 06:02.54 | captain_proton | are people exploding? |
| 06:02.55 | sussudio | being a fucking moron? |
| 06:02.56 | sussudio | yes |
| 06:03.04 | sussudio | somehow he's killing everyone that spawns |
| 06:03.11 | sussudio | by "flickering" |
| 06:03.16 | sussudio | and he can't be shot |
| 06:03.30 | captain_proton | do you want the technical explaination of what he's doing? |
| 06:03.40 | sussudio | he just goes into some weird [nr] mode without it showing up on the scoreboard |
| 06:03.52 | sussudio | i have no idea. he must be sending messages to the server. |
| 06:04.01 | sussudio | since he's not actually moving or shooting people |
| 06:04.29 | captain_proton | he sends a shot, which is originating from the position that the player spawns |
| 06:04.31 | MrApathyCream | its very easy to source bullets at enemy tank locations |
| 06:04.47 | sussudio | i was behind him and he shot me |
| 06:04.47 | captain_proton | but the clients update their view of other tanks' positions on MsgShotBegin |
| 06:04.59 | captain_proton | so he sends a position update immediately after returning him to his spot |
| 06:05.04 | captain_proton | which is why he flickers |
| 06:05.12 | sussudio | is there some way to stop it? |
| 06:05.29 | captain_proton | switch servers(?) |
| 06:05.30 | MrApathyCream | server should position shots at the beginning |
| 06:05.31 | sussudio | i'll logon with a prepared cheatclient. |
| 06:05.35 | MrApathyCream | 1.9 |
| 06:05.46 | scanline | The server could check shot and tank position updates against the current position, limiting it to some maximum velocity |
| 06:06.08 | scanline | s/current/last known/ |
| 06:06.34 | captain_proton | scanline: and it should |
| 06:06.50 | scanline | suppose this is a "patches welcome" sort of thing then, eh? |
| 06:06.56 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 06:07.06 | captain_proton | ~emulate BZFlag |
| 06:07.11 | | ACTION sits hacking on blootbot, bzflag, tuxscreen, eLinux, and many other projects and mutters "Patches Welcome!" |
| 06:07.11 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:08.28 | sussudio | hah! |
| 06:08.38 | sussudio | it's hard to kill me when i have return goodHit |
| 06:08.39 | sussudio | muha. |
| 06:08.48 | sussudio | he just "appears" in front of me and disappears immediately |
| 06:08.52 | scanline | bah, lame score-changing cheat clients |
| 06:12.03 | captain_proton | hm, evo 1.2 is much faster at handling large mailboxes than 1.0.8 |
| 06:19.22 | sussudio | "seems like we have captured the illusive Apathy. He seems to get very angry when we take away his keyboard" |
| 06:21.48 | captain_proton | welp, looks like noone has a screener copy of TTT yet |
| 06:22.08 | sussudio | ten turnip tweakers? |
| 06:22.52 | captain_proton | right first time! |
| 06:27.00 | scanline | haha, my brother fell asleep on my bed while watching FOTR |
| 06:28.02 | sussudio | friends of twinkie robots? |
| 06:28.11 | scanline | how'd you guess? |
| 06:28.41 | sussudio | imdb |
| 06:30.27 | MrApathyCream | brb |
| 06:44.36 | *** join/#bzflag tvon (~tvon@md-frdrck-cmts2a-a-53.shphwv.adelphia.net) |
| 06:44.47 | tvon | Numbers boy is haunting the server with the old turkey map... |
| 06:44.57 | tvon | "to whome it may concern" |
| 06:45.26 | tvon | ...and I miss the new turkey map....fyi |
| 06:45.27 | tvon | :( |
| 06:45.30 | tvon | k, nuff said |
| 06:45.39 | captain_proton | tvon: i challenge you |
| 06:45.52 | tvon | to what? |
| 06:46.02 | captain_proton | to the decks! |
| 06:46.07 | tvon | hah, okay |
| 06:46.29 | tvon | what server? |
| 06:47.09 | captain_proton | lesee |
| 06:47.13 | captain_proton | gs7.something |
| 06:47.15 | captain_proton | listed as my server |
| 06:47.18 | tvon | k, I'll find it |
| 07:22.39 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@mxfcl8x41.chesco.com) |
| 07:22.58 | MrApathyCream | Ookley, dookley, where's the kernel builders? |
| 07:23.29 | MrApathyCream | windoz idiot wants a hand walking thru debian install |
| 07:24.14 | scanline | ack.. debian is not a starter distro |
| 07:24.18 | scanline | give them a mandrake CD or something |
| 07:24.21 | MrApathyCream | oh well |
| 07:24.31 | MrApathyCream | them would be me |
| 07:24.49 | MrApathyCream | swap partition size? |
| 07:24.53 | scanline | so get ye a mandrake CD :P |
| 07:25.13 | scanline | usually somewhere around 1/2 to 2 times the size of your RAM |
| 07:27.33 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 07:29.11 | sussudio | scanline : for windows yeah. |
| 07:29.20 | sussudio | MrApathyCream : how much memory is in the PC? |
| 07:30.24 | MrApathyCream | it's a crappy old machine 128 |
| 07:30.46 | sussudio | what's it going to be used for? |
| 07:31.13 | MrApathyCream | me learning linux, building BZFlag for debian |
| 07:31.25 | sussudio | pfff... how big is the harddisk? |
| 07:31.42 | MrApathyCream | 6M |
| 07:31.46 | sussudio | oh... |
| 07:31.57 | MrApathyCream | er, 6g |
| 07:32.03 | sussudio | well it probably wont even use the swap unless you run mozilla or something |
| 07:32.27 | sussudio | i'd make it 128MB, but you could make it 256. i have deb with kde and crap installed and it's taking up about 1.5GB |
| 07:32.48 | MrApathyCream | so i need a boot partitian size = ? |
| 07:32.54 | vogon | 20 megs. |
| 07:32.54 | MrApathyCream | a swap = 128 |
| 07:32.58 | vogon | first partition on the drive. |
| 07:33.00 | MrApathyCream | and the rest is a logical? |
| 07:33.07 | vogon | and then have a root partition of whatever's left. |
| 07:33.08 | sussudio | not really unless your bios cant handle the harddisk |
| 07:33.21 | MrApathyCream | ok, so 20, 128 and the rest? |
| 07:33.39 | sussudio | i'd make 1 primary partition, 5.5GB, the rest swap |
| 07:34.15 | vogon | sussudio: I prefer to have a separate boot partition for my own reason. |
| 07:34.18 | MrApathyCream | there was some kind of warning that said, i may only be able to see the first xxx megs from the boot partitian |
| 07:34.19 | vogon | reasons, rather. |
| 07:34.29 | sussudio | vogon: underpants gnomes? |
| 07:34.30 | MrApathyCream | they recommended three |
| 07:34.33 | vogon | sussudio: yes. |
| 07:34.59 | sussudio | MrApathyCream : *shrug*. i guess you could make a 10 or 20MB boot partition. |
| 07:35.24 | MrApathyCream | they recommended three |
| 07:35.38 | sussudio | that'll be filled up pretty quick if you use more than 1 kernel |
| 07:35.54 | vogon | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 07:35.55 | vogon | /dev/hda1 23302 13496 8603 62% /boot |
| 07:35.56 | sussudio | you have 6GB. debian probably isnt ever going to use more than 2. |
| 07:36.12 | vogon | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 815103 Feb 24 2002 vmlinuz-2.4.17-preempt.gz |
| 07:36.16 | vogon | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 732018 Apr 21 2002 vmlinuz-2.4.18 |
| 07:36.18 | vogon | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 632393 Apr 13 2002 vmlinuz-2.4.18-686 |
| 07:36.21 | vogon | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 823332 Jul 17 01:08 vmlinuz-2.4.18-ac3 |
| 07:36.23 | vogon | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 794090 Aug 11 06:57 vmlinuz-2.4.18-debnew |
| 07:36.26 | vogon | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 861409 Dec 18 00:56 vmlinuz-2.4.20-ac2 |
| 07:36.28 | vogon | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 778831 Jul 16 22:22 vmlinuz-2.4.9-31-roothat |
| 07:36.29 | sussudio | /dev/hdb1 1921156 1693716 129848 93% / |
| 07:36.31 | vogon | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 712967 May 16 2002 vmlinuz-2.5.0-viro1 |
| 07:36.32 | sussudio | :-P |
| 07:36.34 | vogon | (apologies for the flood.) |
| 07:36.54 | MrApathyCream | [initializing swap partition] |
| 07:37.08 | MrApathyCream | i have an itch to rebuild my kernel already ;) |
| 07:37.31 | sussudio | you need a 2.4 kernel if you're going to use dri from dri.sourceforge.net |
| 07:37.32 | vogon | heh. |
| 07:38.08 | MrApathyCream | hda1 should be mounted as root filesystem, yes? |
| 07:38.17 | sussudio | err no |
| 07:38.19 | vogon | hda1 should be /boot. |
| 07:38.23 | sussudio | you made /boot first |
| 07:38.26 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:38.28 | vogon | hda2 should be swap. |
| 07:38.32 | vogon | hda3 should be /. |
| 07:38.37 | MrApathyCream | hda2 is swap |
| 07:38.42 | sussudio | the point of /boot is that it's the first partition |
| 07:38.53 | vogon | so that it's in the first 1,024 cylinders of the disk. |
| 07:38.57 | MrApathyCream | yup ok |
| 07:39.16 | MrApathyCream | hmmm was it ok that i initialized hda1? |
| 07:39.29 | vogon | yeah. |
| 07:39.36 | vogon | you initialize everything. |
| 07:39.39 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:39.40 | vogon | then it installs the kernel. |
| 07:39.45 | vogon | and runs lilo to build the bootblock. |
| 07:39.53 | MrApathyCream | checking bad blocks... |
| 07:40.33 | MrApathyCream | heh, this could take a while |
| 07:46.40 | MrApathyCream | hmm, looks like jzaun's been a busy boy |
| 07:47.23 | MrApathyCream | 1/3 thru... |
| 07:50.09 | MrApathyCream | heh, captain_proton waxes nostagic |
| 07:50.28 | captain_proton | :) |
| 07:50.37 | MrApathyCream | agreed. |
| 07:50.46 | MrApathyCream | The cure is worse than the problem, it seems to me |
| 07:51.17 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: i'm installing debian as we speak! |
| 07:51.30 | MrApathyCream | not bad for the old man, eh? |
| 07:51.43 | captain_proton | not at all |
| 07:51.55 | MrApathyCream | <of course vogon, et.al, have to tell me what buttons to push every step of the way :) |
| 07:52.20 | vogon | heh. |
| 07:52.28 | vogon | you'll learn soon enough. |
| 07:52.54 | vogon | first lesson: fdisk doesn't actually destroy your data, or even render it inaccessible. |
| 07:53.52 | vogon | as long as you have the cylinder numbers written down for each of your partitions, you can get all of your data back. |
| 07:54.11 | scanline | there's a program that can scan the disk and guess where your partitions are, but I forget what it's called |
| 07:54.28 | *** join/#bzflag BZFlag (timr@rikers.org) |
| 07:54.34 | MrApathyCream | hmm, is this likely to happen? |
| 07:54.43 | MrApathyCream | i'm gettin sckeeered |
| 07:54.49 | vogon | MrApathyCream: if you become a l33t lunix hax0r, it will eventually. |
| 07:54.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o BZFlag] by ChanServ |
| 07:55.01 | scanline | hehe, lunix |
| 07:55.08 | MrApathyCream | phew! good i'm safe |
| 07:56.19 | vogon | it's happened to me twice. |
| 07:56.25 | vogon | once, I lost all of my data. |
| 07:56.39 | vogon | (luckily, this was back in the days when I didn't have much data to lose.) |
| 07:56.47 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:56.56 | vogon | the second time, I got everything back. |
| 07:56.58 | MrApathyCream | this system will be read-only |
| 07:57.06 | vogon | second lesson: get a boot disk. |
| 07:57.12 | MrApathyCream | for all practical perposes |
| 07:57.13 | vogon | I recommend Tom's Root/Boot. |
| 07:57.27 | vogon | http://www.toms.net/rb |
| 07:57.28 | MrApathyCream | ibot, Tom's Root/Boot? |
| 07:57.29 | | i haven't a clue, MrApathyCream |
| 07:58.37 | MrApathyCream | mmm |
| 07:59.24 | MrApathyCream | i will keep all important stuff on windoz, aka fort knox |
| 07:59.43 | captain_proton | geez |
| 08:00.01 | captain_proton | you'd think by now they'd know how much it took to tranquilize a go'auld |
| 08:00.19 | scanline | watching 202? |
| 08:00.49 | captain_proton | yup |
| 08:01.25 | scanline | I have 203 and 204 on navi now too |
| 08:01.57 | captain_proton | i just started sucking 203 down |
| 08:02.05 | scanline | quality is quite a bit better than those .asf's :) |
| 08:03.16 | captain_proton | just a bit |
| 08:06.20 | scanline | "I don't know why I just said that" |
| 08:06.44 | scanline | we have to use that as a name for a bzflag/jetstream/picogui release or something :) |
| 08:08.38 | MrApathyCream | installing kernel: |
| 08:09.00 | MrApathyCream | skip manual selection of packages? |
| 08:09.37 | vogon | skip it. |
| 08:09.43 | MrApathyCream | i like that |
| 08:09.45 | vogon | apt-get does all the stuff you need. |
| 08:09.49 | vogon | and more simply. |
| 08:09.51 | scanline | Welcome to the SG-1 text adventure |
| 08:10.00 | scanline | You seem to be inside a goa'uld attack vessel |
| 08:10.09 | scanline | it is very dark |
| 08:10.12 | scanline | > |
| 08:10.40 | vogon | quit |
| 08:11.24 | scanline | You feel the sting of a staff weapon blast on your side. The very dark world grows darker as you spiral into unconsciousness... |
| 08:11.24 | MrApathyCream | selecting drivers (block, net, fs, cdrom,misc) |
| 08:11.54 | scanline | You recieved 0 points out of a total 300 possible |
| 08:11.59 | scanline | You are not a top ten scorer |
| 08:12.03 | scanline | Do you wish to play again? |
| 08:12.10 | vogon | for the love of "Bob", no. |
| 08:12.42 | vogon | MrApathyCream: hmm. |
| 08:13.00 | captain_proton | scanline: heh |
| 08:13.02 | vogon | MrApathyCream: you should be able to get by with the defaults and mess with them later. |
| 08:13.09 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 08:13.22 | vogon | how's the computer connected to the Interweb? |
| 08:13.35 | scanline | With a little cordy thing! |
| 08:13.45 | vogon | OMG what will they think of next |
| 08:14.14 | MrApathyCream | ppp i spose |
| 08:14.40 | vogon | OK, then. |
| 08:14.51 | vogon | you'll just need to install PPP on reboot. |
| 08:15.04 | vogon | (it may even be part of the base package set.) |
| 08:15.45 | scanline | captain_proton: hmm.. is the audio a tiny bit out of sync for you? |
| 08:15.59 | vogon | Package: ppp |
| 08:16.00 | vogon | Priority: optional |
| 08:16.00 | vogon | Section: base |
| 08:16.02 | captain_proton | scanline: now that you mention it... |
| 08:16.26 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:16.28 | MrApathyCream | installing base system |
| 08:16.48 | scanline | hrmf... maybe I'll try mencoder for the next one |
| 08:21.34 | MrApathyCream | where should lilo boot loader be installed hda or hda1 |
| 08:22.42 | MrApathyCream | they suggest hda (MBR) |
| 08:22.48 | scanline | yeah, hda |
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| 08:26.12 | scanline | If there's one thing SG1 can teach us, it's that if your pupils dilate correctly you're fine |
| 08:28.36 | MrApathyCream | 0-3 |
| 08:32.37 | MrApathyCream | disk 5 is a success |
| 08:33.32 | captain_proton | scanline: no kidding |
| 08:35.22 | MrApathyCream | Lilo Boot Menu: Lunux or Linux(hda1) |
| 08:36.23 | MrApathyCream | hmnmm, maybe i was wrong ;( |
| 08:36.32 | MrApathyCream | is it supposed to smoke this much? |
| 08:36.41 | scanline | yes |
| 08:37.05 | sussudio | what color smoke? |
| 08:37.24 | MrApathyCream | the color that they emit when they vote in a new pope |
| 08:37.41 | MrApathyCream | it would appear i'm hung. <insert joke here> |
| 08:37.46 | sussudio | i'm not catholic, i worship our lord bugs bunny |
| 08:37.54 | scanline | smoke emitting pope? |
| 08:37.56 | vogon | MrApathyCream: are you kidding or not? |
| 08:38.03 | captain_proton | i didn't know the pope smoked |
| 08:38.04 | MrApathyCream | i wish i were |
| 08:38.16 | MrApathyCream | I have a fine screen that says: |
| 08:38.20 | scanline | captain_proton: only when on fire? |
| 08:38.24 | MrApathyCream | boot: Linux(hda1) |
| 08:38.29 | MrApathyCream | Loading Linux(hda1) |
| 08:39.40 | MrApathyCream | ah, much better |
| 08:39.45 | MrApathyCream | some nasty looking screens... -> what i expected |
| 08:39.54 | captain_proton | heh |
| 08:39.57 | vogon | heh. |
| 08:40.08 | scanline | do you count kernel boot messages as a "nasty looking screen"? |
| 08:40.16 | MrApathyCream | that i do |
| 08:40.20 | scanline | feh |
| 08:40.29 | vogon | Memory: 1544596k/1572800k available (1178k kernel code, 23596k reserved, 503k data, 80k init, 655296k highmem) |
| 08:40.48 | vogon | omg so much ram |
| 08:41.01 | vogon | I need a better modem and HD, though. |
| 08:41.12 | vogon | s/modem/interwebbenet connection/ |
| 08:41.41 | scanline | I wonder why I expect them to say "Plot a course" on space 1999.... |
| 08:41.58 | captain_proton | haha |
| 08:42.38 | scanline | This episode: |
| 08:42.45 | scanline | Emergency Red Alert! |
| 08:42.49 | captain_proton | scanline: because their nuclear magnetic fields are SO STRONG, you could press a duck in it |
| 08:42.51 | captain_proton | oh wait |
| 08:42.56 | scanline | hehehe |
| 08:42.59 | captain_proton | their nuclear magnetic fields are SO STRONG, they can steer |
| 08:44.01 | MrApathyCream | marge: This is the worst thing you've ever done |
| 08:44.12 | MrApathyCream | homer: You've used that so much it's lost all meaning |
| 08:44.22 | MrApathyCream | -- sounds like Mr&Mrs AC |
| 08:44.28 | vogon | heh. |
| 08:44.45 | captain_proton | scanline: s1999 is such a deep show... |
| 08:44.55 | vogon | hmm. according to the kernel, I have 17 delis in my computer. |
| 08:45.06 | scanline | oh boy, they're firing a laser into a black hole! and they're surprised when nothing happens! |
| 08:45.24 | vogon | haha. |
| 08:45.47 | captain_proton | scanline: well you know lasers cause such exciting things to happen |
| 08:45.48 | captain_proton | .. |
| 08:45.58 | scanline | oh yeah... like that laser in Real Genius |
| 08:46.20 | scanline | laser + popcorn = more fun than a barrel of screaming gerbils |
| 08:46.51 | vogon | whoa. |
| 08:46.53 | captain_proton | perhaps they should use a laser and popcorn in sg1 |
| 08:47.02 | vogon | BZ's the 4th most popular project on sourcefrog. |
| 08:47.13 | captain_proton | ribbit |
| 08:47.21 | scanline | they could use that to confuse the goa'uld! dump a wheelbarrowfull of popcorn through the gate, then fire a laser through it! |
| 08:47.55 | scanline | when apophis sees his favorite gate covered with popcorn, he'll have no idea what to expect next! |
| 08:48.07 | captain_proton | pop |
| 08:48.12 | scanline | corn! |
| 08:48.23 | captain_proton | sorry, the correct answer is 'six' |
| 08:48.32 | scanline | Unconditional forecast: it is a black sun. 100% certainty. |
| 08:48.47 | scanline | gee, they don't even call it a black hole... it's a "black sun" the whole time |
| 08:49.07 | captain_proton | scanline: black holes hadn't been invented yet in 1999 |
| 08:49.19 | scanline | oh, forgot about that |
| 08:49.41 | scanline | oh great... let's use antigravity towers to push the moon away from a "black sun"! |
| 08:49.51 | captain_proton | hahahahahaha |
| 08:49.55 | captain_proton | what a quality show |
| 08:51.21 | captain_proton | i don't think -i've- been that brave |
| 08:51.32 | captain_proton | second one was the planet with her funky funky hubby right? |
| 08:51.32 | scanline | "We're going to reprogram our main unit generators so that instead of trying to negate the pressure from the black sun, they will simply reverse it. The closer we're drawn toward it, the stronger the force will become, so that theoretically the pressure of the force field will eventually compell the pressure of the black sun to protect us against itself" |
| 08:51.39 | scanline | wow that was a quality explanation |
| 08:51.42 | scanline | I forget |
| 08:52.09 | scanline | they have this cool little lego model and some plexiglass to illustrate it too |
| 08:52.39 | captain_proton | protect us against itself... |
| 08:52.41 | captain_proton | hah |
| 08:53.32 | scanline | "it's beautiful, like fish scales!" -- describing the force field |
| 08:53.40 | vogon | hahahahahah. |
| 08:53.47 | vogon | this sounds like the best show ever. |
| 08:53.48 | scanline | then: "you can cut through fish scales" |
| 08:54.41 | captain_proton | vogon: any sci-fi show with disco for its intro music HAS to be good |
| 08:54.56 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.27 | vogon | captain_proton: can't beat the Red Dwarf intro. it's just not possible. |
| 08:55.40 | scanline | oh this beats it |
| 08:55.54 | vogon | how large are the files? |
| 08:56.02 | scanline | except maybe the red dwarf episode that starts with the cat's dream |
| 08:56.10 | scanline | 353MB |
| 08:56.14 | vogon | bah. |
| 08:56.22 | captain_proton | vogon: get a l33ter connection to the interweb |
| 08:56.23 | vogon | that's, like, 24 hours of downloading. |
| 08:56.32 | vogon | captain_proton: yeah, yeah. |
| 08:56.33 | scanline | I could recompress them to 5MB :P |
| 08:56.51 | vogon | scanline: it'd be, like, 2x2. |
| 08:57.05 | scanline | you wouldn't separate an old man from his walking stick? |
| 08:57.15 | vogon | and the audio would be 2Hz, 1-bit. |
| 08:57.16 | captain_proton | =) |
| 08:57.23 | scanline | vogon: heck no, you'd get at least 10 pixels |
| 08:57.54 | captain_proton | and 10 pixels in a 3:4 video is impressive |
| 08:58.07 | vogon | yeah. |
| 08:58.14 | scanline | well, I was rounding to the nearest pixel |
| 08:58.23 | scanline | i'd compress with subpixel accuracy, yaknow |
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| 08:59.25 | captain_proton | eek, gettin' old |
| 08:59.43 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:59.47 | scanline | (gdb) print *(SurfaceQuadtreeNode *)0x86a5b60 |
| 08:59.47 | scanline | A parse error in expression, near `0x86a5b60'. |
| 08:59.51 | captain_proton | i just did some twirlythings with the staff and had both my legs and my back crack all at once |
| 09:00.24 | sussudio | man, that was sorta boring......... |
| 09:00.25 | vogon | scanline: stick an asterisk before the address. |
| 09:00.40 | scanline | heh.. no |
| 09:00.42 | sussudio | sitting in the middle with stealth, "cages" map... |
| 09:00.49 | sussudio | shooting fish in the barrel... |
| 09:01.38 | scanline | vogon: the SurfaceQuadtreeNode data type left gdb's namespace for some reason |
| 09:01.52 | scanline | all my asterisks are correctly placed, I assure you this |
| 09:01.53 | vogon | ah. |
| 09:02.01 | captain_proton | augh |
| 09:02.10 | captain_proton | outta practice too, just smacked myself in the back of the head |
| 09:02.35 | scanline | "Computer at minimum capacity." "Now we'll have to think for ourselves" |
| 09:02.48 | scanline | what a quality show |
| 09:02.57 | captain_proton | isn't that the trooth |
| 09:03.36 | scanline | Cap'n, the screenwriters are operating at minimum capacity! Looks like we'll have to think for ourselves! |
| 09:03.57 | captain_proton | oh scanline, i just realized something that pissed me off to no end in TTT |
| 09:03.59 | hardwire | looooooooooooong |
| 09:04.10 | scanline | captain_proton: eh? |
| 09:04.22 | captain_proton | the lady (forget her name, been too long since i read it) was using oriental sword techniques while she was swinging it around |
| 09:05.00 | captain_proton | sussudio: they don't have warp nacells on the moon |
| 09:05.15 | sussudio | captain_proton : not anymore they don't, no |
| 09:06.11 | captain_proton | i hate spiff |
| 09:06.14 | captain_proton | "I think that BZ Cops should be questioned less and trusted more" |
| 09:06.22 | sussudio | why does alanis morrisette have a career? |
| 09:07.37 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 09:07.42 | captain_proton | another TZ episode coming down |
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| 09:08.44 | sussudio | at least outer limits has some episodes with nekkidness. |
| 09:08.58 | BZFlag | captain_proton: what's wrong with the sword technique? it's possible another culture developed similar techiniques, no? |
| 09:09.02 | scanline | oh yeah.. been a while since I watched the outer limits |
| 09:11.04 | BZFlag | ibot: stop the madness |
| 09:11.05 | | BZFlag: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 09:15.06 | MrApathyCream | select the desired display manager: gdm, xdm, kdm |
| 09:16.40 | scanline | 0.10 FHz |
| 09:16.50 | hardwire | heh |
| 09:17.43 | scanline | ugh... this is what I get for sticking a conditional breakpoint in a very frequently used function |
| 09:17.50 | vogon | MrApathyCream: kdm. |
| 09:17.54 | vogon | MrApathyCream: it's l33t. |
| 09:20.30 | vogon | blah. |
| 09:20.52 | vogon | so many animated smilies. |
| 09:21.00 | vogon | eyes turning into thick translucent goo. |
| 09:25.04 | scanline | "Every star is just a cell in the brain of the universe" |
| 09:28.00 | MrApathyCream | debian better write programs for you, after this install |
| 09:28.23 | vogon | heh. |
| 09:35.09 | captain_proton | BZFlag: perhaps, but it bothers me when -everyone- is using the same european middle ages techniques, then she goes and does a couple minutes of stuff just because the director saw it in crouching tiger |
| 09:42.12 | scanline | hehe |
| 09:42.42 | captain_proton | of course tomorrow i'll probably forget that i made this decision |
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| 09:57.06 | scanline | ibot: emulate moogle is <reply> I'm kupo for Kupo Nuts! |
| 09:57.07 | | okay, scanline |
| 09:57.48 | scanline | ibot: emulate winnie the pooh is <action> refuses the blindfold |
| 09:57.49 | | okay, scanline |
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| 10:52.15 | BZFlag | ~google for bzflag |
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| 10:57.29 | ak|ra | moin |
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| 11:48.05 | ak|ra | moin tea |
| 11:48.14 | [TeA]- | nnn |
| 11:48.18 | [TeA]- | n |
| 11:48.46 | ak|ra | da faellt mir ein, was ich grade noch machen wollte :) |
| 11:48.48 | [TeA]- | nnnnnn |
| 11:48.51 | [TeA]- | nnnnn |
| 11:49.04 | [TeA]- | nnnnnn |
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| 12:06.03 | snyke | hmm |
| 12:06.10 | snyke | bzfs takes 99percent cpu o.O |
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| 12:34.45 | bzgirl | hello |
| 12:36.39 | ak|ra | hi |
| 12:36.44 | vogon | heya. |
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| 12:49.48 | [dmp] | too bad about the game. |
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| 12:50.05 | remco | hi |
| 12:50.31 | Big | hi |
| 12:50.38 | remco | what happened? |
| 12:51.15 | Big | who me? |
| 12:51.31 | remco | with the double names and stuff |
| 12:51.37 | Big | yes |
| 12:51.40 | remco | Did it crash? |
| 12:51.45 | Big | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.54 | remco | new version? |
| 12:52.00 | Big | i can't seem to get my name changed to Big Barrel |
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| 12:52.33 | Big | u still there? |
| 12:52.38 | remco | yeah |
| 12:52.41 | Big | hmmm |
| 12:52.53 | Big | i type big barrel but it still says big |
| 12:52.56 | Big | grrrr |
| 12:53.04 | remco | huh? |
| 12:53.09 | remco | try different server |
| 12:53.15 | Big | my nick name |
| 12:53.20 | Big | it says big |
| 12:53.25 | remco | weird |
| 12:53.25 | Big | not big barrel |
| 12:53.28 | [dmp] | you cant write /nick big_barrel ? |
| 12:53.36 | Big | it is not working |
| 12:53.42 | remco | dunno |
| 12:53.57 | fiberchunks | hey all |
| 12:54.01 | fiberchunks | morning |
| 12:54.02 | remco | hi |
| 12:54.06 | big_barrel | it says big is now know |
| 12:54.11 | big_barrel | ok there it goes |
| 12:54.14 | big_barrel | hmmm |
| 12:54.15 | [dmp] | it probaly remembers the last nick you where online with. |
| 12:54.17 | big_barrel | that was weird |
| 12:54.30 | fiberchunks | hey remco - you realize that your nick on the forum is rembo? is that what you wanted? |
| 12:54.32 | [dmp] | and reuse it until you say otherwise. |
| 12:54.32 | Big_Barrel | fhdfodf |
| 12:54.37 | Big_Barrel | ok there we go |
| 12:54.40 | remco | yeah |
| 12:54.45 | fiberchunks | k, just checking |
| 12:54.48 | remco | this is my real name |
| 12:54.52 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 12:54.59 | remco | i didn't change it here |
| 12:55.01 | Big_Barrel | rambo |
| 12:55.10 | rembo | Whoohooo |
| 12:55.15 | bzgirl | :) |
| 12:55.20 | Big_Barrel | i gotta go help a friend put a part on his car |
| 12:55.22 | fiberchunks | Big_Barrel: that's what I was thinking - remco the rambo :) |
| 12:55.28 | Big_Barrel | :) |
| 12:55.29 | [dmp] | a barrel? :-) |
| 12:55.36 | fiberchunks | missiles! |
| 12:55.38 | Big_Barrel | ok guys i will be back shortly |
| 12:55.43 | [dmp] | amour? |
| 12:55.47 | [dmp] | later BB |
| 12:55.53 | fiberchunks | cya |
| 12:55.56 | rembo | it's between rambo and remco |
| 12:55.57 | Big_Barrel | no a .50 cal machine gun |
| 12:56.00 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 12:56.05 | [dmp] | auch |
| 12:56.05 | rembo | later bb |
| 12:56.11 | [dmp] | dont like the police, eh? |
| 12:56.16 | Big_Barrel | see you in about 30 min |
| 12:56.21 | fiberchunks | bzgirl -- what do you think of the all categories rolled up 'cept the main one? |
| 12:57.16 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: its eiser I think all rolled up like that, sometimes i think I get lost in all the sub-categories |
| 12:57.27 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: but that could just be me :) |
| 12:57.28 | fiberchunks | good, that's what I was hoping. |
| 12:57.39 | fiberchunks | no, I hated scrolling through all that cruft too |
| 12:57.51 | fiberchunks | stupid one line change as well ;) |
| 12:57.59 | bzgirl | yeah it look good now IMO |
| 12:58.40 | fiberchunks | ah, you all are there too -- give me some feedback, if you please |
| 12:58.52 | [dmp] | fiberchunks: is it possible for you to get an url like forum.bzflag.org. that would be easier for me to remember :-) |
| 12:58.59 | rembo | i looking at it now |
| 12:59.32 | Big_Barrel | lll |
| 12:59.34 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 12:59.37 | fiberchunks | well, that was what popped into my head when I got my allocation -- when I move the site (to a dedicated box), I'll probably redirect it -- or add another domain to my list |
| 12:59.40 | rembo | hmmm |
| 12:59.53 | Big_Barrel | i just wanted to see what happens when you slap someone |
| 12:59.54 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 12:59.56 | fiberchunks | but for now, that'll have to do |
| 13:00.01 | Big_Barrel | no offense |
| 13:00.03 | Big_Barrel | lol |
| 13:00.05 | Big_Barrel | :) |
| 13:00.05 | rembo | Rembo would use his ultra secret weapon if he culd find it |
| 13:00.19 | bzgirl | [dmp]: you could bookmark it? |
| 13:00.22 | Big_Barrel | ehehehehe |
| 13:00.31 | fiberchunks | [dmp]: if it's easier for you to remember - bzbb stands for BZflag Bulletin Board. |
| 13:00.47 | [dmp] | i have 837827382 bookmarks. and i use differet browsers. |
| 13:00.58 | bzgirl | :) |
| 13:01.02 | bzgirl | thats alot |
| 13:01.10 | [dmp] | give or take a few :) |
| 13:01.11 | fiberchunks | I may query Mr. Riker in the future for a bzflag.org domain... |
| 13:01.26 | [dmp] | my bookmark folder is powered by google :) |
| 13:01.30 | rembo | it looks very cool |
| 13:01.32 | fiberchunks | but I'm not sure how that'll fly |
| 13:01.36 | fiberchunks | thank you |
| 13:01.56 | [dmp] | that would be neat.. but i guess that perhaps valoche will link directly to it sometime in the future as well. |
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| 13:02.33 | fiberchunks | I imagine so -- he and I are going to talk about having anyone who registers at the forum or at the league site auto-registered at the other site |
| 13:03.01 | fiberchunks | that reminds me: I have GOT to make a select for links to other bzflag sites ... |
| 13:03.44 | [dmp] | anyway fiberchunks, keep up the good work. Not that im so terribly active :-) |
| 13:04.05 | fiberchunks | ah, it don't matter -- I like getting feedback no matter how much you contribute |
| 13:04.07 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 13:06.21 | rembo | Hmm |
| 13:06.35 | rembo | I think I'am gonna smite flesh oil and iron again |
| 13:06.38 | rembo | cu |
| 13:06.44 | [dmp] | later rembo |
| 13:06.46 | bzgirl | bye rembo |
| 13:06.58 | rembo | cu on ducati I hope :) |
| 13:07.03 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: where would i put game screenshots? |
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| 13:15.00 | fiberchunks | bzgirl: sorry, where? in the forum, you mean? |
| 13:15.27 | bzgirl | yeah |
| 13:15.44 | fiberchunks | hrm - good question... |
| 13:16.35 | fiberchunks | ah -- do you have big images, that you could create thumbnails out of, and link to the bigger images? |
| 13:16.49 | bzgirl | exactly |
| 13:17.35 | fiberchunks | well -- try this: make a post and put a link via a [img][/img] tag in the post...then put the url of the image between those tags -- I think that'll do it |
| 13:18.22 | fiberchunks | There's a mod for the forum software that let's you have a photo album -- I'll have to look into that... |
| 13:20.48 | bzgirl | yeah, i thought it would work with bb code too? |
| 13:20.56 | bzgirl | or its got to be html? |
| 13:24.05 | fiberchunks | no, bbcode should work -- go ahead and slap a test post in the test forum -- I'll check it out too |
| 13:28.31 | fiberchunks | bzgirl -- this works: [url=http://bzflag.org/screenshots/bzfi0002.jpg][img]http://bzflag.org/screenshots/t-bzfi0002.jpg[/img][/url] |
| 13:30.00 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: http://bzbb.homelinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=825#825 |
| 13:30.06 | fiberchunks | k |
| 13:30.55 | fiberchunks | works a charm :) you use flux too - hooray! |
| 13:31.19 | bzgirl | hehe...i like fluxbox |
| 13:31.49 | fiberchunks | flux rox -- small, light, and has some good eye candy going for it |
| 13:32.14 | fiberchunks | the only thing I wish it had were proper session management -- :\ |
| 13:32.16 | bzgirl | yeah although i find most of the themes really grim and bleak.. |
| 13:32.26 | bzgirl | or full of half naked women! |
| 13:32.43 | fiberchunks | lol, but I _like_ half naked women :) |
| 13:32.59 | bzgirl | :) |
| 13:33.29 | fiberchunks | darn, the only thing that amateurish hack doesn't do for me is rollup the BZCentral category if I click on another -- I'll have to look into that. |
| 13:33.52 | bzgirl | oh some thing else...is there a time limit on editing your posts? or is it indefinate? |
| 13:35.19 | fiberchunks | I think it's indefinite, within the boundaries of the cookie setting, which is 1 hr |
| 13:35.30 | fiberchunks | why? |
| 13:35.43 | bzgirl | just curious. :) |
| 13:35.56 | fiberchunks | oh good, thought there was a problem. |
| 13:36.19 | bzgirl | no, but i am prone to typo's :) |
| 13:37.12 | fiberchunks | heh -- you can always edit -- I think I edit my posts after submitting about 30 times each for stupid stuff |
| 13:38.17 | bzgirl | got to go now.. |
| 13:38.22 | bzgirl | cu all |
| 13:39.08 | *** part/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@24.156.129.90) |
| 14:02.47 | Big_Barrel | i am back! |
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| 14:04.19 | *** part/#bzflag chsh[] (~chsh@24.101.204.198) |
| 14:07.49 | [dmp] | BB: wanna play |
| 14:08.16 | [dmp] | oh well, i'm off to ducati |
| 14:08.24 | *** part/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@0x50c4919b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) |
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| 14:30.22 | Big_Barrel | does anyone know the link for BZFlag Centrum |
| 14:30.23 | Big_Barrel | ? |
| 14:42.23 | ak|ra | www.google.de |
| 14:42.25 | ak|ra | www.google.com |
| 14:42.28 | ak|ra | sorry :) |
| 14:42.36 | ak|ra | and its mentioned on stats.bzflag.org |
| 14:48.00 | Big_Barrel | google did not work i already tried it |
| 14:52.51 | fiberchunks | bzbb.homelinux.org |
| 14:53.42 | fiberchunks | heh, if you type in 'bzflag centrum' in google -- it's the first hit :) |
| 15:12.48 | Big_Barrel | i found it thanks |
| 15:17.33 | Chestal | tag |
| 15:26.12 | ak|ra | tag |
| 15:28.28 | bzdoug | YOUR IT! |
| 15:59.52 | *** join/#bzflag victorvdl (~victorvdl@ip57.125-173-207.eli-du.nwlink.com) |
| 16:02.17 | victorvdl | Hey, I have a problem with BZflag on MacOSX 10.2. I have a G3 ibook, downloaded and installed 1.7e6, but whenever I run it, it loads the textures, tests lowest quality, and then tests full quality and segfaults. Anybody know what's causing that? |
| 16:05.54 | Chestal | hmm, sorry, don't know anything about the OS X version |
| 16:06.13 | Chestal | 1.7g0 is the newest release btw., I'm not sure whether there is a OS X version yet, though |
| 16:08.10 | victorvdl | Chestal: wasn't yesterday. |
| 16:09.18 | victorvdl | Is there anyway to run BZ over an http proxy? |
| 16:10.54 | Chestal | to contact the server list or for the game itself? |
| 16:10.59 | Chestal | the asnwer is currently no to both |
| 16:11.19 | Chestal | but you can avoid the first problem by skipping one level of indirection for the server list |
| 16:12.03 | Chestal | for yoru OS X problem, it's probably best to post the question on the sf forums or on the most active bzflag forum http://bzbb.homelinux.org |
| 16:13.33 | victorvdl | Ok, thanks. |
| 16:15.18 | Chestal | is your http problem related to the server list? |
| 16:18.07 | victorvdl | No, I just wanna be able to play over a proxy. If I knew the address of the serves, and the ports, I could probably fake it using an http tunneler. |
| 16:18.48 | Chestal | bzflag uses both TCP and UDP, though |
| 16:20.28 | victorvdl | I think my tunneler can do UDP stuff to. Worth a shot, anyway... |
| 16:34.02 | victorvdl | Woohoo... Where oh where oh where can I get 1.8 unstable? |
| 16:34.15 | victorvdl | Other than CVS... I'm behind http proxy here. |
| 16:34.26 | *** join/#bzflag mj_ (~mj_@236.58-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 16:34.56 | Chestal | victor: 1.8 is a dead end, so I am not sure if you really want to get it |
| 16:36.10 | victorvdl | Dead end? |
| 16:37.04 | vogon | all work on it is dropped for now. |
| 16:37.21 | vogon | and probably forever. |
| 16:37.26 | victorvdl | Oh. |
| 16:37.33 | victorvdl | So what are the devs working on instead? |
| 16:37.35 | vogon | or, at least, the near future. |
| 16:37.37 | Chestal | some of the things are in there will probably make their way into the main branch sooner orlater |
| 16:37.41 | vogon | victorvdl: updates to 1.7. |
| 16:37.49 | vogon | anti-cheat things and stuff. |
| 16:38.41 | victorvdl | Oh, ok. |
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| 16:45.46 | ak|ra | moin mac |
| 16:47.53 | MrApathyCream | howdy |
| 16:53.37 | ak|ra | fine fine |
| 16:54.47 | Big_Barrel | anyone want a match w/ HELL ON WHEELS? |
| 16:54.56 | ak|ra | :)))))))) |
| 17:02.28 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@24.156.129.90) |
| 17:02.40 | bzgirl | hi |
| 17:06.24 | MrApathyCream | hey bzgirl |
| 17:06.35 | jzaun | Hello bzgirl |
| 17:07.23 | ak|ra | hey girl |
| 17:22.06 | Big_Barrel | HELL ON WHEELS needs a match again!!! |
| 17:23.20 | Big_Barrel | anyone want to give us a match??? |
| 17:23.25 | ak|ra | Big_Barrel: YOU need always a match :) |
| 17:23.33 | Big_Barrel | i know |
| 17:23.40 | Big_Barrel | everyone is scared again |
| 17:23.45 | Big_Barrel | :) |
| 17:24.13 | Big_Barrel | 5156 is empty |
| 17:24.50 | fiberchunks | sure - where -- |
| 17:25.24 | ak|ra | i am totally scared |
| 17:25.31 | ak|ra | Chestal: wie siehts denn morgen abend so aus? |
| 17:25.41 | bzgirl | Big_Barrel: i just got an email from Bamf, he said h can play this weekend sometime |
| 17:25.55 | Chestal | akira: weiß nicht |
| 17:26.07 | bzgirl | Big_Barrel: so we are waiting to hear from the rest of our team |
| 17:27.33 | Big_Barrel | ok maybe tomorrow |
| 17:27.48 | Big_Barrel | Moles,,, HELL ON WHEELS is challenging you right now |
| 17:27.54 | fiberchunks | ello? I'll do battle individually with anyone right now...bored at turkey |
| 17:28.07 | Big_Barrel | i need official |
| 17:28.08 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: where? |
| 17:28.18 | fiberchunks | don't matter - pick one |
| 17:28.30 | fiberchunks | oh, I'm at turkey.moongroup |
| 17:28.31 | fiberchunks | .com |
| 17:28.34 | Big_Barrel | HELL ON WHEELS is challenging the moles |
| 17:28.37 | bzgirl | you like to jump or not? |
| 17:28.37 | Big_Barrel | right now |
| 17:28.51 | Chestal | Barrel: hm, I could play, don't know about my teammates yet |
| 17:28.53 | fiberchunks | don't matter - I'm usually ffa -j, but I'll try anything |
| 17:28.58 | Big_Barrel | find out |
| 17:29.06 | Big_Barrel | we wanna play you all |
| 17:29.10 | Big_Barrel | 3 on 3 |
| 17:29.16 | Big_Barrel | maybe even 2 on 2 |
| 17:29.24 | Big_Barrel | if you are not too scared |
| 17:29.26 | Big_Barrel | :) |
| 17:29.26 | ak|ra | Big_Barrel: are you a bitch? :)) you take them all :)) |
| 17:29.37 | Chestal | lupi is on ICQ, but he is N/A |
| 17:29.44 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: ratlab? |
| 17:29.45 | Chestal | at least he didn't answer yet |
| 17:29.51 | Big_Barrel | hahaha |
| 17:29.53 | fiberchunks | sure - see you there |
| 17:30.16 | Big_Barrel | well you and akira can play right??? |
| 17:30.16 | ak|ra | Chestal: i talked to him earlier |
| 17:30.17 | Chestal | ak|ra: can you play? |
| 17:30.24 | ak|ra | Chestal: not at the moment |
| 17:30.30 | Chestal | ak|ra: hmm, ok |
| 17:30.30 | ak|ra | but we COULD |
| 17:30.31 | Big_Barrel | when??? |
| 17:30.39 | ak|ra | if lup wakes up :) |
| 17:30.46 | Big_Barrel | wake him up |
| 17:30.47 | ak|ra | then i would stop the donkey for a while |
| 17:30.50 | Big_Barrel | i saw him earlier |
| 17:31.41 | Big_Barrel | we are on 59999 |
| 17:31.49 | Big_Barrel | ready for any challenge |
| 17:31.49 | Chestal | barrel: as it turns out, only the good teams answer your challenge, Zees, Moles, vbz... |
| 17:31.59 | Big_Barrel | i know |
| 17:32.03 | Big_Barrel | it really sucks |
| 17:32.21 | Big_Barrel | well do we have a match then? |
| 17:32.58 | ak|ra | Chestal: Chestal he is online now |
| 17:33.08 | Chestal | Big: who is available right now from your team? |
| 17:33.20 | Big_Barrel | Calico, Mirella and myself |
| 17:33.23 | Chestal | hold on, Lupi is alive |
| 17:33.30 | Big_Barrel | we are on 59999 waiting |
| 17:33.39 | Big_Barrel | yes |
| 17:33.45 | Big_Barrel | ok i will wait |
| 17:35.27 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-178.stny.rr.com) |
| 17:35.34 | Chestal | hi calico |
| 17:35.36 | calico | hi |
| 17:35.44 | calico | how you doing today |
| 17:35.45 | ak|ra | moin callico |
| 17:35.50 | Big_Barrel | hi calico |
| 17:35.52 | calico | hi |
| 17:36.00 | Big_Barrel | we want the moles |
| 17:36.05 | Chestal | lupi will be here soon, he must desperately eat something first |
| 17:36.06 | Big_Barrel | we want the moles |
| 17:36.16 | calico | where did mirella go? |
| 17:36.18 | Big_Barrel | ok so it is set then??? |
| 17:36.22 | Big_Barrel | she is on the phone |
| 17:36.31 | Big_Barrel | i guess she will brbg |
| 17:36.37 | calico | ahh |
| 17:36.40 | Chestal | he suggested we warm up and he joins in in some minutes |
| 17:36.48 | calico | ok lets go |
| 17:36.53 | ak|ra | fine with me |
| 17:36.57 | Big_Barrel | so 30min |
| 17:37.07 | Big_Barrel | match in about 30 min??? |
| 17:37.14 | Big_Barrel | moles? |
| 17:37.24 | calico | go to 59999 they are there |
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| 17:46.58 | Chestal | hi GInku |
| 17:49.13 | *** join/#bzflag vogon (a1633c0795@64.40.62.21) |
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| 17:57.43 | hardwire | moprnin peeps |
| 17:57.45 | hardwire | asdfj;alskdfj |
| 17:58.02 | bzgirl | hello hardwire |
| 17:58.27 | hardwire | well.. hello there.. |
| 18:02.24 | Patlabor221 | arn't peeps those little marshmellow things you get at easter that look like babby chickens? |
| 18:03.09 | hardwire | ugh |
| 18:03.15 | hardwire | unfortunatly .. yes.. they are |
| 18:03.25 | hardwire | you marshmallowy high school obsession you |
| 18:03.34 | Patlabor221 | actualy I hate them |
| 18:03.40 | Patlabor221 | allways gave them to my sister |
| 18:03.41 | hardwire | ditto dat |
| 18:03.49 | jzaun | and taste like crud |
| 18:03.54 | hardwire | around easter my entire highschool was covered in peeps |
| 18:03.56 | hardwire | blah |
| 18:03.58 | hardwire | they are evil |
| 18:04.03 | Patlabor221 | sugar flavored crud |
| 18:04.35 | jzaun | cause they taste like crud |
| 18:05.20 | jzaun | I wouldn't even go that far |
| 18:05.41 | hardwire | my cat likes to get melon kisses |
| 18:06.06 | jzaun | more like yellow die flavored, fake marshmellow flavored crud |
| 18:06.09 | Patlabor221 | one of my cats like macdonalds frys |
| 18:06.56 | hardwire | one of my cats likes everything that I eat.. its annoying.. I have to lock him out of my room when I eat |
| 18:07.14 | jzaun | mmmm. Frys and a milkshake to dunk them in :-) best there is |
| 18:07.19 | hardwire | gross |
| 18:07.36 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 18:07.49 | hardwire | jzaun: you are officially master of funkyness |
| 18:08.01 | hardwire | for the week |
| 18:08.08 | jzaun | don't knock it till you've tried it |
| 18:08.09 | vogon | dude. |
| 18:08.13 | vogon | that's my job. |
| 18:08.29 | hardwire | vogon: just pipe down, you! |
| 18:08.30 | jzaun | its very very good actually |
| 18:08.30 | jzaun | I thought it was gross till my firend made me try it |
| 18:09.13 | fiberchunks | hey, can one of you all try connecting to 64.252.14.237 : 5155 on purple please |
| 18:09.15 | jzaun | I'm telling you... get a milkshake and frys and dunk the frys in the shake and eat them.... it really is very good |
| 18:09.22 | Patlabor221 | nevvvvvva |
| 18:09.32 | Patlabor221 | fry's go in sweet and sour sauce |
| 18:09.48 | Patlabor221 | that is where they were borrn to go |
| 18:09.57 | vogon | dude. |
| 18:10.00 | vogon | barbecue sauce. |
| 18:10.01 | jzaun | Patlabor221: that would be good too, but try it... you'll love it, I'm tellin ya |
| 18:10.06 | vogon | it's k-rad. |
| 18:10.08 | hardwire | bbq sauce :) |
| 18:10.10 | hardwire | personally |
| 18:10.10 | Patlabor221 | bbq in a pinch |
| 18:10.18 | hardwire | I like "good" fries.. and mustard |
| 18:10.18 | vogon | hardwire: right on. |
| 18:10.23 | vogon | eww. |
| 18:10.25 | vogon | mustard. |
| 18:10.25 | hardwire | naw |
| 18:10.27 | hardwire | mmm |
| 18:10.37 | vogon | fries are a disgrace to mustard. |
| 18:10.41 | hardwire | just think of like.. steak fries |
| 18:10.45 | hardwire | not fast food fries |
| 18:10.47 | vogon | they are not worthy of mustardy goodness. |
| 18:10.59 | hardwire | mustard and fries! |
| 18:11.01 | hardwire | mmmm |
| 18:11.02 | hardwire | !! |
| 18:11.10 | jzaun | yuck |
| 18:11.22 | jzaun | can't stand mustard less its cooked into the food |
| 18:11.27 | hardwire | ah |
| 18:11.38 | hardwire | also.. fries and ranch! |
| 18:12.07 | jzaun | take a nice thick slice of roast beef sped mustard on it, rap it around a dill pickel and back it for 30 min. best meal you'll ever have |
| 18:12.20 | hardwire | hmm |
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| 18:12.41 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (alton@pD9E50A60.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:12.49 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: cant connect |
| 18:14.00 | Cell | bow, my generic world code is done, compiled with 0 errors, but was not tested one time |
| 18:14.02 | fiberchunks | yeah, working on it |
| 18:15.53 | Patlabor221 | fiberchunks: I am not liking the rolldown in its current incarcation :/ |
| 18:17.08 | fiberchunks | working on that too |
| 18:17.42 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 18:17.49 | fiberchunks | gah -- can't get a damned server to work right -- wtf - only open to a connection from the machine it's on -- not even to my lan |
| 18:17.53 | fiberchunks | any ideas? |
| 18:18.10 | fiberchunks | ports are open, ttl 255, etc |
| 18:18.37 | Patlabor221 | is it nated? |
| 18:18.41 | fiberchunks | yes |
| 18:20.24 | Patlabor221 | is it the DMZ |
| 18:20.45 | fiberchunks | no -- |
| 18:20.56 | Patlabor221 | ohh well that woudn't mater if you can't connect on lan |
| 18:21.48 | fiberchunks | jeezus, this is irritating |
| 18:22.00 | fiberchunks | had it working a while ago -- now I can't get |
| 18:22.01 | fiberchunks | it too |
| 18:24.31 | fiberchunks | alright, now I can connect on the lan -- but only with the lan ip -- can't connect via the public ip -- probably my shite linksys router |
| 18:24.43 | Patlabor221 | ok that I know about |
| 18:24.50 | Patlabor221 | did you set up a port map |
| 18:24.55 | fiberchunks | on? |
| 18:24.59 | Patlabor221 | the router |
| 18:25.07 | fiberchunks | ports are forwarded on the router - yes |
| 18:25.16 | Patlabor221 | what ones? |
| 18:25.17 | fiberchunks | 5155 tcp, 17200-17204 udp |
| 18:25.38 | Patlabor221 | I htink you need 5156 tcp for the list serv too |
| 18:25.59 | fiberchunks | well if it's non-public, why would I need the list serv port as well? |
| 18:26.05 | fiberchunks | or do you have to advertise it? |
| 18:26.16 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm |
| 18:26.19 | Patlabor221 | good point |
| 18:26.31 | Patlabor221 | you should not have to advertise it |
| 18:26.50 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 18:26.59 | Patlabor221 | unless there are other ports that are needed |
| 18:27.03 | fiberchunks | right -- I'm thinking - that since the linksys has such shit software (I HATE this router), and that you can really only access and set things |
| 18:27.16 | Patlabor221 | I too do not like there routers |
| 18:27.18 | fiberchunks | properly through goddamned IE, that it's not accepting settings |
| 18:27.24 | Patlabor221 | I get gigafast ones |
| 18:27.27 | fiberchunks | that's why I'm building a linux box |
| 18:27.36 | Patlabor221 | oror dlink ones |
| 18:27.37 | fiberchunks | to replace it |
| 18:27.39 | Patlabor221 | they kick ass |
| 18:27.50 | Patlabor221 | well that will work too |
| 18:27.56 | bzgirl | i never had to forward ports to run a server though |
| 18:28.05 | bzgirl | on my linksys |
| 18:28.10 | fiberchunks | hrm? |
| 18:28.14 | bzgirl | nope. |
| 18:28.15 | Patlabor221 | were you set as the DMZ machine? |
| 18:28.15 | fiberchunks | how so |
| 18:28.19 | bzgirl | no |
| 18:28.25 | Patlabor221 | then that should not work |
| 18:28.38 | bzgirl | dont ask me how |
| 18:28.43 | fiberchunks | no it shouldn't -- yet another stellar example of the quality of linksys products |
| 18:28.44 | bzgirl | but i never did that |
| 18:29.01 | bzgirl | but ii still remain invisible to scans and stuff |
| 18:29.04 | Patlabor221 | but it's my genetic impertive to ask how!!!! it's what I do :) |
| 18:29.05 | bzgirl | i think :) |
| 18:29.41 | bzgirl | i had to connect to my srver with 192.x.x.x but thats about it |
| 18:29.42 | fiberchunks | that shouldn't work at all!?!?! By definition the thing filters out anything that isn't explicitly allowed -- how odd |
| 18:29.52 | fiberchunks | but what about outside access? |
| 18:29.54 | Patlabor221 | and other people outside could see it? |
| 18:29.59 | bzgirl | outside worked fine |
| 18:30.02 | bzgirl | sure |
| 18:30.04 | fiberchunks | bizarre |
| 18:30.25 | bzgirl | :) |
| 18:30.28 | bzgirl | 102 |
| 18:30.40 | Patlabor221 | ohh you have antoher computer that fired up before you then :) |
| 18:30.52 | bzgirl | yes, my notebook is always on |
| 18:30.56 | fiberchunks | well, phoot -- I don't have the time to fiddle with this today -- sorry bzgirl :( |
| 18:31.07 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: np |
| 18:32.25 | fiberchunks | good, one more reason for me to trash the thing -- it might serve as an expensive switch -- but I doubt it's any good at that either :\ |
| 18:32.38 | Patlabor221 | get a gigafast one |
| 18:32.45 | Patlabor221 | our firewall box died here |
| 18:32.52 | Patlabor221 | and I ran our company on the thing |
| 18:33.20 | bzgirl | oh i also have to boot to windows to administer that router, fiberchunks, is there a way around this? |
| 18:33.47 | Patlabor221 | if it's a linksys it should be a web configure |
| 18:33.51 | fiberchunks | no -- those idiots can't write code that is cross-browser compatible |
| 18:34.00 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: yes, it _should_ be, but it isn't |
| 18:34.06 | Patlabor221 | I think you can telnet to it |
| 18:34.25 | Patlabor221 | another readson for the gigafast, it worked from lin |
| 18:34.30 | fiberchunks | you can -- but you can't fiddle with things |
| 18:34.44 | bzgirl | is gigafast a firewall too? |
| 18:34.47 | Patlabor221 | hell I admined it from a PDA once |
| 18:34.51 | fiberchunks | bzgirl -- try now: 64.252.14.237 5155 - purple |
| 18:34.53 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 18:35.00 | Patlabor221 | it's the same thing as the linksys |
| 18:35.09 | Patlabor221 | it just works better |
| 18:35.11 | bzgirl | and easy to set up right? |
| 18:35.18 | Patlabor221 | and they are usaly chaper |
| 18:35.22 | Patlabor221 | yeah same type of setup |
| 18:35.24 | bzgirl | fiberchunks: try in one sec.. |
| 18:35.29 | fiberchunks | good deal |
| 18:35.31 | Patlabor221 | put in your info and hit a button |
| 18:35.52 | fiberchunks | I can now, after setting up the machine in the dmz, connect from my lan machine with the public address -- how ridiculous |
| 18:36.53 | Patlabor221 | does not seem like bestubuy cary's the brand |
| 18:36.58 | Patlabor221 | but they do have d-link |
| 18:37.14 | Patlabor221 | and I have had good luck with those too |
| 18:37.34 | *** join/#bzflag M1 (~827e1ead@chat.ircnet.org) |
| 18:38.49 | fiberchunks | why? |
| 18:38.56 | Patlabor221 | dsl go bye bye |
| 18:39.02 | fiberchunks | ah -- that's no good |
| 18:39.02 | Patlabor221 | *snif* |
| 18:39.04 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 18:39.13 | Patlabor221 | 2 and a half weeks |
| 18:39.36 | fiberchunks | phoo -- how come? |
| 18:39.48 | Patlabor221 | dsl company goin under |
| 18:40.03 | vogon | DirecTV DSL? |
| 18:40.05 | Patlabor221 | and pac bell can't order me a new one for 2 weeks |
| 18:40.05 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 18:40.11 | vogon | bummer. |
| 18:40.19 | Patlabor221 | then 5-7 to get the new modem |
| 18:40.42 | Patlabor221 | when it's all done, I'll be better off tho 256k up instead of 128 for the same price |
| 18:40.47 | fiberchunks | ack |
| 18:41.27 | Patlabor221 | here, this is the router I use here to circumvent our company's nazi like internet usage policy |
| 18:41.28 | Patlabor221 | http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A5303344 |
| 18:42.29 | jzaun | vogon, whats up with make? |
| 18:42.31 | fiberchunks | noticed there's nothing there bout udp support -- have you run a bzfs server from behind the thing? |
| 18:42.40 | vogon | jzaun: building a KDE/C++ program. |
| 18:42.54 | jzaun | vogon, why? use gtk/gnome :-) |
| 18:42.56 | vogon | jzaun: the build process is so very, very, very slow. |
| 18:42.59 | vogon | jzaun: heh. |
| 18:43.01 | vogon | jzaun: not my code. |
| 18:43.32 | M1 | bye |
| 18:43.36 | Patlabor221 | for each port in the virtual server you can set TCP, UDP or both |
| 18:43.37 | jzaun | vogon good point |
| 18:43.43 | Patlabor221 | looking at the config page now |
| 18:44.10 | jzaun | So has anyone looked at my HUD patch? :-) :-) :-) :-) |
| 18:44.15 | vogon | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. |
| 18:44.25 | vogon | THE BUG IS IN QT. THIS DAY IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER. |
| 18:44.36 | vogon | 0x08099586 in QMap<int, TraceLine>::count (this=0x3c) at /usr/lib/qt3/include/qmap.h:709 |
| 18:44.38 | vogon | 709 size_type count() const { return sh->node_count; } |
| 18:45.00 | vogon | hmm. |
| 18:45.02 | vogon | or maybe not. |
| 18:45.03 | jzaun | cause QT sucks :-) |
| 18:45.05 | vogon | damn. |
| 18:46.26 | hardwire | qt == stinky |
| 18:48.12 | ak|ra | ahja? |
| 18:48.13 | ak|ra | ok, bye |
| 18:48.43 | vogon | whoo. |
| 18:48.53 | vogon | my modularized config library thing is only 742 lines of code. |
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| 19:00.34 | stayer | hi :) |
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| 19:04.59 | stayer | Big_Barrel > hi :) |
| 19:07.34 | fiberchunks | alright Patlabor221 and jzaun, since both of you complained - and the only person that likes it is me -- the rollups are gone :)\ |
| 19:07.42 | fiberchunks | .............. for now |
| 19:08.19 | Patlabor221 | ohh I like the idea of them |
| 19:08.29 | Patlabor221 | I think they just need a bit of work |
| 19:08.43 | Chestal | ja, hier drinnen |
| 19:08.45 | Chestal | oops |
| 19:08.52 | Patlabor221 | like not having a limit to how many are open |
| 19:09.07 | Patlabor221 | and showing me that there are new posts in colapsed ones |
| 19:09.09 | fiberchunks | well - I'll see if I can find a mod that better suits our needs |
| 19:09.30 | Patlabor221 | I just didn't like having to click a lot to see what was new in the sections I cared about |
| 19:09.53 | fiberchunks | the 'view posts since last visit thing can take care of that too |
| 19:09.59 | Patlabor221 | cus there would be some sections that I kept rolled up |
| 19:10.19 | Patlabor221 | that shows me ALL posts, there are some sections I don't care to look at |
| 19:10.35 | Patlabor221 | and it's nice to see what is new right from the main page |
| 19:10.53 | fiberchunks | good point |
| 19:11.12 | Patlabor221 | if I could just have more then 2 open, have it savethem and make the arrows yellow when something is new, I'd love it, |
| 19:11.25 | Patlabor221 | then it realy would be usefull |
| 19:11.58 | Patlabor221 | and that would let each person decide how he want's to view it |
| 19:12.17 | Patlabor221 | so those poor bastards with 15" monitors can keep the all rolled up |
| 19:12.37 | Patlabor221 | yet I can bask in the glorry of my 2 high resolution monitors :) |
| 19:14.33 | Patlabor221 | where glory = masive amounts of radiation |
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| 19:31.09 | stayer | captain_proton: go to bed old man... :) |
| 19:31.26 | Patlabor221 | nawww bet he just woke up |
| 19:31.47 | stayer | ah...ok |
| 19:32.52 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 19:35.13 | stayer | captain_proton woke up from his keyboard and went to bathroom to brush his teeth :) |
| 19:35.22 | Patlabor221 | betting he had to pee |
| 19:35.49 | stayer | hm....possible |
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| 19:57.10 | Cell | hi, anyone is going to watch rtl now( in 10 min)? |
| 19:57.24 | Chestal | what's on there? |
| 19:57.35 | Cell | diether bohlen, lol |
| 19:57.42 | Chestal | aah, no thanks |
| 19:57.59 | Cell | :) |
| 19:58.23 | Chestal | except maybe when you they're going to torture him or something |
| 19:58.48 | Cell | should not be that easy |
| 19:58.59 | stayer | do U think so? |
| 19:59.15 | Cell | yes, i think |
| 19:59.37 | Cell | hey Patlabor221 how's your cat doing? |
| 20:03.12 | Patlabor221 | my cat is sick |
| 20:03.18 | Patlabor221 | oh he' s gone |
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| 21:07.17 | Patlabor221 | he's gone |
| 21:09.06 | Patlabor221 | said he woudn't be back till 2 AM |
| 21:09.36 | captain_proton | yipes |
| 21:11.52 | fiberchunks | have you tried out his HUD patch yet? |
| 21:12.06 | Patlabor221 | I have not |
| 21:12.16 | Patlabor221 | even tho I made all the art for it :/ |
| 21:12.30 | fiberchunks | yes -- noticed that :) |
| 21:13.13 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 21:13.18 | fiberchunks | like the smiley face |
| 21:13.54 | Patlabor221 | what eles says "alive" |
| 21:14.24 | Patlabor221 | I thought about a "humbs up" |
| 21:14.35 | fiberchunks | hrm -- make linux-debug causes the thing to crash whenever you try to enter text...odd |
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| 21:34.31 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot ducatictf |
| 21:40.10 | Ginku | hallo Tea |
| 21:40.47 | Ginku | ibot ducatictf |
| 21:52.25 | [TeA|TrEE] | ginku |
| 21:52.26 | [TeA|TrEE] | hello |
| 22:05.03 | scanline | morning folks |
| 22:05.20 | captain_proton | mornin'1 |
| 22:08.00 | scanline | yay... The ibook keyboard I won has been shipped, and I did get outbid on the other one |
| 22:08.59 | Chestal | hmm, I still do not quite udnerstad the advogato trust metric |
| 22:09.03 | [TeA|TrEE] | ? |
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| 22:22.40 | sussudio | x |
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| 22:43.10 | iluxa | ~ducati |
| 22:50.20 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot ducatictf |
| 22:57.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | Ginku has birthday now !!!!! |
| 22:57.13 | [TeA|TrEE] | :)))))) |
| 22:58.06 | Chestal | tea: really? |
| 23:00.50 | [TeA|TrEE] | yep |
| 23:01.01 | [TeA|TrEE] | seot 8 min schon |
| 23:01.14 | Chestal | woher weißte? |
| 23:02.54 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot ducatictf |
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| 23:05.34 | remote | hi |
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| 23:06.04 | [TeA|TrEE] | strayer |
| 23:06.07 | [TeA|TrEE] | der is weg |
| 23:06.08 | stayer | :) |
| 23:06.09 | remote | I'm trying to compile bzflag for linux |
| 23:06.09 | [TeA|TrEE] | anscheined |
| 23:06.14 | remote | I do make linux |
| 23:06.16 | remote | then make all |
| 23:06.17 | [TeA|TrEE] | :) |
| 23:06.34 | Chestal | or make linux-i386 I guess |
| 23:06.35 | remote | if I ls in bzflag-x.x/bin |
| 23:06.40 | remote | ther'es no bzflag |
| 23:06.55 | Chestal | I just do 'make linux-i386; make' |
| 23:06.59 | Chestal | should build bin/bzflag |
| 23:07.02 | remote | there's only bzfls bzfrelay and bzfs |
| 23:07.03 | stayer | [TeA|TrEE]: woher wusstest du das? |
| 23:07.20 | Chestal | remote: try 'make' again and see if it tries to compiel something and you get errors |
| 23:07.36 | remote | ok. |
| 23:08.14 | remote | make[3]: *** [MainWindow.o] Error 1 |
| 23:08.23 | remote | I did make clean; make linux-i386; make |
| 23:08.33 | remote | bash-2.05a$ ls bin/ |
| 23:08.34 | remote | bzfls bzfrelay bzfs |
| 23:08.36 | captain_proton | remote: anything above that? |
| 23:08.44 | remote | well it worked |
| 23:09.13 | remote | In file included from MainWindow.cxx:15: |
| 23:09.13 | remote | ../../include/bzfgl.h:34: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory |
| 23:09.13 | remote | make[3]: *** [MainWindow.o] Error 1 |
| 23:09.13 | remote | make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/remote/bzflag/src/bzflag' |
| 23:09.20 | remote | that's gl.h |
| 23:10.09 | captain_proton | you need the GL headers |
| 23:23.54 | remote | wow |
| 23:24.02 | remote | there's many cheaters |
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| 23:25.25 | sussudio | indeed |
| 23:25.38 | sussudio | i just killed kernel panic 7 times on his own server |
| 23:27.22 | Storm | hehe |
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| 23:28.32 | sussudio | i liked the one where i jumped down from the platform and fragged him with my laser best.... he was camping with a gm |
| 23:28.57 | captain_proton | sussudio: and he didn't 'dictator' you off? |
| 23:29.02 | captain_proton | i guess KP is pretty fair |
| 23:29.07 | sussudio | captain_proton: nope, he didnt talk at all |
| 23:29.21 | sussudio | unlike dervish or spiff, who don't seem to be able to shut up |
| 23:29.51 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:30.06 | captain_proton | 'lo scanline |
| 23:30.19 | scanline | heya captain_proton |
| 23:30.32 | captain_proton | i can't believe i forgot to make coffee today |
| 23:30.48 | captain_proton | my mom got back from wherever she was and asked why i hadn't :P |
| 23:30.52 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:30.56 | *** part/#bzflag iluxa (~iluxa@12-234-207-60.client.attbi.com) |
| 23:30.57 | scanline | I just got back from the grocery store |
| 23:31.10 | scanline | got some brie, crackers, juice, habanero chips, and coffee =) |
| 23:31.46 | scanline | lots of habanero chips |
| 23:32.01 | sussudio | and anti-acid tablets ofcourse |
| 23:32.07 | scanline | nah |
| 23:34.22 | captain_proton | mmmmMMMMMm |
| 23:34.28 | captain_proton | habanero chips =) |
| 23:41.42 | scanline | hmm.. my parents got a new digital camera. It can record motion jpeg AVIs at 160x120 |
| 23:41.47 | scanline | how useful |
| 23:42.14 | scanline | picture quality's a lot better than my camera though, and they paid about the same amount for it |
| 23:45.12 | scanline | hehe.. I just gave my brother a habanero chip without telling him what flavor it is |
| 23:45.23 | scanline | "aah, spicy!!" |
| 23:46.38 | bzdoug | nothing beats fiberglass in ones eye |
| 23:48.07 | captain_proton | scanline: evil man :) |
| 23:48.26 | captain_proton | my parents have a digital camera but its sitting in my room because they never use it and i wanted to get it working with my machine |
| 23:49.02 | scanline | I'd probably use my camera more if I built a rechargable battery pack for it |
| 23:49.43 | captain_proton | this one is really nice :) |
| 23:50.09 | captain_proton | 4 megapixel, rechargable battery, got a 128mb flash card in it |
| 23:50.15 | scanline | spiffy |
| 23:53.27 | sussudio | my camera can record movies :-P |
| 23:53.42 | sussudio | in their special "whatthefsckisthiscodec" |
| 23:54.18 | scanline | this one is using the microsoft MJPEG codec I think... whatever it is, mplayer handles it |
| 23:57.23 | captain_proton | scanline: haven't ripped any more sg1? |
| 23:57.23 | captain_proton | :) |
| 23:57.42 | scanline | oh.. I stopped because I need the CPU for something else I think |
| 23:58.11 | captain_proton | perhaps overnight i'll encode "first man into space" |
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