| 00:00.22 | Santa | scanline: you have to set a server password |
| 00:00.35 | scanline | haven't done that yet |
| 00:02.32 | Santa | its amazing how that guy just didn't get it |
| 00:03.34 | scanline | yeah |
| 00:05.40 | bzdoug | ? |
| 00:05.54 | scanline | just.. blehhhhhhh |
| 00:05.58 | Santa | finals tend to do that |
| 00:06.13 | bzdoug | scanline: your server is running? |
| 00:06.14 | scanline | but I haven't really been studying or anything |
| 00:06.19 | scanline | bzdoug: should be |
| 00:06.30 | scanline | I was just on it a few minutes ago, as was Santa |
| 00:06.35 | bzdoug | cant connect |
| 00:06.37 | bzdoug | what port? |
| 00:06.41 | scanline | the default? |
| 00:06.48 | bzdoug | hm |
| 00:06.59 | bzdoug | navi.picogui.org |
| 00:07.01 | bzdoug | right? |
| 00:07.02 | scanline | the process is running |
| 00:07.06 | scanline | yeah |
| 00:07.16 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:07.17 | bzdoug | odd |
| 00:07.50 | scanline | I just connected.. it's up |
| 00:08.08 | bzdoug | odd |
| 00:08.10 | bzdoug | I cant |
| 00:08.19 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:08.23 | bzdoug | cant see the bzflist |
| 00:08.50 | scanline | ibot: bzflist |
| 00:09.11 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:09.12 | bzdoug | I got in |
| 00:09.14 | bzdoug | dinner now |
| 00:09.15 | *** join/#bzflag ak|ra (~akira@p50883305.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:16.22 | BZFlag | looks like people like the map changes on one. ;-) |
| 00:19.17 | scanline | Santa: ever tried tenebrae quake? |
| 00:19.22 | Santa | scanline: nope |
| 00:19.29 | Patlabor221 | it's PUUUURRRRDDY |
| 00:19.48 | scanline | Santa: it's quake, but with dot3 bump mapping, stencil shadows, and some volumetric lighting effects |
| 00:19.59 | scanline | Santa: and it's the only open source example of those effects I can find :) |
| 00:20.05 | scanline | I finally got the little bastard to compile |
| 00:20.12 | scanline | 15fps :) |
| 00:20.23 | Patlabor221 | you got that many? |
| 00:20.33 | scanline | ooh, it peaked at 29 |
| 00:25.08 | Santa | scanline: how goes surface? |
| 00:28.24 | scanline | it's so quiet around here... |
| 00:28.35 | scanline | Santa: almost sorta kinda pseudo close to working? |
| 00:28.40 | scanline | I haven't worked on it since I woke up |
| 00:32.14 | scanline | hmm.. I despise stencil buffer shadows |
| 00:36.28 | *** join/#bzflag rooter (~mad@dsl-65-188-29-53.telocity.com) |
| 00:37.41 | rooter | ~ductictf |
| 00:37.49 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 00:40.35 | bzdoug | patch -p0 -i sim.diff -d /bzflag is correct? |
| 00:40.39 | bzdoug | scanline? |
| 00:41.01 | scanline | probably not |
| 00:41.06 | bzdoug | hum |
| 00:41.09 | bzdoug | for windows? |
| 00:41.35 | bzdoug | u huh |
| 00:41.38 | scanline | try changing to your bzflag directory then running "patch -p1 < foo.patch" |
| 00:41.40 | ak|ra | n8 |
| 00:41.59 | bzdoug | ? |
| 00:42.07 | bzdoug | oh, night |
| 00:42.09 | scanline | it's.. too quiet |
| 00:42.13 | bzdoug | so... l33t |
| 00:42.24 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (~d8b24432@chat.ircnet.org) |
| 00:43.42 | bzdoug | hmm, now its just sittin there |
| 00:44.01 | MrApathyCream | hey, satan |
| 00:44.08 | rooter | it's only late in some places |
| 00:44.21 | bzdoug | MrApathyCream: amen to that |
| 00:44.27 | Santa | scanline: awww, its ok. we live in a forwards universe |
| 00:44.50 | scanline | how can you be so sure? |
| 00:45.08 | rooter | echo "lucifer@hell.com" > .forward |
| 00:45.24 | rooter | oops... wrong window |
| 00:49.45 | Santa | blehhhhhhhhhhh |
| 00:50.51 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 00:52.01 | bzdoug | MrApathyCream: you there? |
| 00:53.35 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (1000@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net) |
| 00:53.35 | bzdoug | yay |
| 00:53.39 | bzdoug | it patched |
| 00:54.28 | bzdoug | scanline: how does this flight sim mode work? |
| 00:54.57 | scanline | you move the mouse to control your pitch and yaw, there is no throttle control so you just fly at a constant velocity |
| 00:55.07 | scanline | jump button does nothing |
| 00:55.09 | bzdoug | OH COOOOL |
| 00:55.16 | bzdoug | neato |
| 00:55.19 | bzdoug | amazing |
| 00:55.33 | scanline | however, things to be aware of- you can fire bullets at any angle, but the collision detection is broke unless you fire them horizontally |
| 00:55.37 | bzdoug | scanline: could you make the world size 6000 just for kicks? |
| 00:55.40 | scanline | you can fire bullets through the ground |
| 00:55.48 | bzdoug | scanline: oh |
| 00:55.57 | bzdoug | scanline: can you hit tanks? |
| 00:56.04 | scanline | and you can get stuck on buildings- you can usually get unstuck by pointing yourself directly up |
| 00:56.08 | bzdoug | k |
| 00:56.33 | scanline | it won't register a hit unless the bullet is going horizontally |
| 00:56.37 | bzdoug | oh |
| 00:56.39 | bzdoug | :( |
| 00:56.48 | scanline | I think the server is doing the collision detection, so you'd need a patched server for that to work right |
| 00:56.58 | Santa | nope |
| 00:56.59 | bzdoug | ah |
| 00:57.03 | Santa | client does collision detection |
| 00:57.08 | scanline | oh, then I guess I just broke the collision detection code :) |
| 00:57.18 | Santa | its just other clients see your shots horizontally |
| 00:57.24 | scanline | ahh |
| 00:57.41 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:57.43 | bzdoug | it dont work |
| 00:57.47 | Santa | ugggg |
| 00:57.52 | bzdoug | it acts normal |
| 00:57.53 | scanline | I noticed it wasn't doing any collision detection with the floor or the tops of buildings, but didn't feel like fixing it |
| 00:57.54 | bzdoug | no flying |
| 00:58.10 | bzdoug | do I have to activate it? |
| 00:58.13 | bzdoug | or what? |
| 00:58.17 | scanline | no.. it should just work |
| 00:58.21 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:58.26 | scanline | you probably didn't patch it right |
| 00:58.29 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:58.31 | bzdoug | bleh |
| 00:58.40 | bzdoug | patch -p1 < sim.diff |
| 00:58.42 | bzdoug | right? |
| 00:58.47 | scanline | were there any errors? |
| 00:58.56 | bzdoug | not in compiling |
| 00:59.02 | scanline | in patching? |
| 00:59.22 | bzdoug | hmm, not the first time, now its giving errors saying its allready patched |
| 00:59.34 | scanline | ok.. so now are you sure you're running the right binary? |
| 00:59.49 | bzdoug | yup |
| 00:59.51 | Santa | http://www.openal.org/snapshots/openal/docs/oalspecs-specs/x178.html |
| 01:00.08 | bzdoug | oh |
| 01:00.15 | bzdoug | darn "debug" exes |
| 01:00.21 | Santa | scanline: isn't that a nifty example? |
| 01:00.30 | bzdoug | dats more like it, a 1 gig exe |
| 01:00.30 | scanline | indeed. I wish picogui's documentation was that good |
| 01:01.51 | Santa | hey scanline, if i can convince lurgyman & ahnkana, would you be interested in raw fishies? |
| 01:02.06 | scanline | Santa: sure |
| 01:06.57 | Santa | scanline: i think they're both at a calc final, should be back shortly |
| 01:09.24 | bzdoug | scanline: still here? |
| 01:10.52 | scanline | Santa: ok |
| 01:10.56 | scanline | bzdoug: yep |
| 01:10.58 | Santa | mmMMMMmmmm....environ..... |
| 01:11.27 | Santa | hahaha |
| 01:11.37 | bzdoug | scanline: could you recompile your cheat server with the world size larger? |
| 01:11.47 | bzdoug | doesnt take much |
| 01:11.48 | scanline | bzdoug: mmm.. no |
| 01:11.57 | bzdoug | oh........................................ |
| 01:12.06 | Santa | bzdoug: THIS PROGRAM PROVIDES NO WARRANTY |
| 01:12.17 | bzdoug | Santa: baaah |
| 01:13.00 | bzdoug | uh huh |
| 01:15.36 | Santa | ...with bzdoug and a cow? |
| 01:15.58 | scanline | no, with horses and horses |
| 01:18.29 | Santa | w00t |
| 01:18.34 | scanline | jen is back |
| 01:18.37 | Santa | the origin is fully functional once again |
| 01:18.42 | Santa | dan isn't of yet |
| 01:19.49 | scanline | dan is here actually |
| 01:19.52 | scanline | origin? |
| 01:19.59 | Santa | o r i g i n |
| 01:20.25 | scanline | yay |
| 01:20.26 | scanline | origin |
| 01:20.54 | Santa | heh |
| 01:22.18 | scanline | Santa: dan and jen are both "too cheap" to obtain sushi.. though dan says maybe tomorrow night |
| 01:22.31 | Santa | ugh |
| 01:26.22 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:26.36 | bzdoug | sushi = $$$? |
| 01:28.18 | Patlabor221 | yes doug real sushi - money |
| 01:28.28 | Patlabor221 | more then just CA rolls |
| 01:29.02 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:29.24 | Patlabor221 | acutaly sashimi grade salmon is about 15$ a lb. |
| 01:32.02 | bzdoug | ahhhhh, sashimi fish |
| 01:32.07 | Patlabor221 | realy good toro can get up in the 23-25 range |
| 01:32.17 | Patlabor221 | yes sushi is raw fish on rice. |
| 01:32.38 | bzdoug | scanline: still there? |
| 01:32.47 | Patlabor221 | what did you think it was? |
| 01:33.00 | bzdoug | scanline: join me at heckaman.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 01:34.29 | bzdoug | fish |
| 01:34.31 | bzdoug | on rice |
| 01:36.41 | Patlabor221 | just the fish is sashimi |
| 01:36.48 | Patlabor221 | fish on rice is suchi |
| 01:36.50 | bzdoug | yea |
| 01:36.51 | Patlabor221 | sushi |
| 01:37.09 | bzdoug | fish in my tummy is food |
| 01:39.40 | Noodleman | hey peeps |
| 01:39.41 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.51 | Noodleman | too much /. |
| 01:39.55 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 01:39.59 | bzdoug | lol |
| 01:40.06 | bzdoug | Noodleman: got my email? |
| 01:40.19 | Noodleman | lemme check |
| 01:40.25 | Noodleman | just got home from work |
| 01:40.36 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:42.44 | Noodleman | bzdoug: the global.h one? |
| 01:43.18 | bzdoug | yea |
| 01:43.25 | bzdoug | when you start up your cheat server |
| 01:43.33 | bzdoug | make that modifacation |
| 01:43.35 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:43.42 | Noodleman | i actually came up with a better idea |
| 01:43.47 | bzdoug | then it will be trully a cheat server |
| 01:43.56 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 01:44.34 | Noodleman | make a server which says 'cheaters welcome'. when they sign on, log their ip address. get it? |
| 01:44.39 | Noodleman | >:-) |
| 01:44.42 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:45.49 | bzdoug | Noodleman: join your server, lemme show ya somethin |
| 01:46.28 | Noodleman | ok |
| 01:47.07 | jpablo | we have a TK in ducati, anybody with the password ? |
| 01:48.16 | bzdoug | nope |
| 01:48.27 | Noodleman | nope, sorry |
| 01:48.38 | bzdoug | Noodleman: its not a gz file |
| 01:48.39 | bzdoug | https://navi.picogui.org:3000/~micah/flight-simulator.patch.gz |
| 01:48.44 | bzdoug | patch and build |
| 01:48.46 | Noodleman | *boy, wazowski sure looks like he's in trouble* |
| 01:48.46 | bzdoug | with CVS |
| 01:48.52 | *** join/#bzflag tvon (~tvon@md-frdrck-cmts2a-a-53.shphwv.adelphia.net) |
| 01:48.56 | tvon | Any turkey admins around? |
| 01:49.08 | Noodleman | bzdoug is a turkey and an admin |
| 01:49.11 | bzdoug | tvon: what for? |
| 01:49.18 | tvon | numbers boy is on |
| 01:49.21 | Noodleman | does that count? |
| 01:49.22 | bzdoug | turkey dont have a password |
| 01:49.26 | tvon | the guy who's name is a string of numbers |
| 01:49.31 | tvon | 179somethign right now |
| 01:49.35 | tvon | has st and high speed |
| 01:49.37 | tvon | and is 16-0 |
| 01:49.38 | tvon | heh |
| 01:49.41 | bzdoug | heh |
| 01:49.49 | bzdoug | cant help ya |
| 01:49.54 | tvon | damn |
| 01:49.55 | bzdoug | unless you want me to yell |
| 01:50.08 | tvon | nah |
| 01:50.16 | bzdoug | Noodleman: once you have it, join my server: heckaman.bzflag.org |
| 01:50.48 | Noodleman | you mean once i compile it in? |
| 01:50.53 | bzdoug | yea |
| 01:50.57 | Noodleman | ok |
| 01:51.13 | bzdoug | or drag it in the system folder |
| 01:51.16 | Noodleman | i have a bunch of other mods compiled in too :-) |
| 01:51.21 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 01:51.51 | Noodleman | i can see st on radar, cl out the window, i can go through buildings, and stuff like that :-) |
| 01:51.57 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:52.10 | Noodleman | did you email it? |
| 01:52.10 | bzdoug | ok, meet ya at the server |
| 01:52.13 | bzdoug | ohj |
| 01:52.16 | bzdoug | email? |
| 01:52.20 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 01:52.21 | Noodleman | the patch |
| 01:52.51 | bzdoug | sent |
| 01:52.53 | bzdoug | now |
| 01:53.01 | Noodleman | got it |
| 01:53.03 | Noodleman | thx |
| 01:53.20 | bzdoug | k |
| 01:56.47 | Noodleman | i'm trying to get it to patch |
| 01:56.53 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:56.53 | Noodleman | with rpm |
| 01:56.58 | bzdoug | rpm? |
| 01:57.00 | bzdoug | IIICCCK! |
| 01:57.26 | bzdoug | patch -p1 < sim.diff |
| 01:57.29 | bzdoug | thats what I used |
| 01:59.23 | Noodleman | i don't have a file called 'config-sys' in my bzflag directory |
| 01:59.34 | bzdoug | you have cvs? |
| 01:59.42 | Noodleman | no |
| 01:59.46 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:59.47 | Noodleman | is it against cvs? |
| 01:59.49 | bzdoug | it needs cvs |
| 01:59.53 | bzdoug | I guess |
| 02:00.04 | bzdoug | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 02:00.13 | Noodleman | why isn't it against the released version? |
| 02:00.42 | Noodleman | i'll just apply it manually |
| 02:00.47 | bzdoug | cuz it tis experamental |
| 02:02.33 | bzdoug | WAAAAAAMBULENCE |
| 02:03.59 | lurgyman | picobot seen scanline |
| 02:04.17 | bzdoug | ~seen scanline |
| 02:04.27 | | scanline is currently on #picogui (8h 45m 55s) #tuxscreen (8h 45m 55s) #zaurus (8h 45m 55s) #elinux (8h 45m 55s) #bzflag (8h 45m 55s) #openzaurus (8h 45m 55s). Has said a total of 79 messages. Is idling for 42m 9s |
| 02:04.27 | lurgyman | oh |
| 02:04.27 | lurgyman | ~seen scanline |
| 02:04.28 | | scanline is currently on #picogui (8h 45m 56s) #tuxscreen (8h 45m 56s) #zaurus (8h 45m 56s) #elinux (8h 45m 56s) #bzflag (8h 45m 56s) #openzaurus (8h 45m 56s). Has said a total of 79 messages. Is idling for 42m 10s |
| 02:05.09 | vogon | man, mIRC color is SO L33T, MY EYES ARE BLEEDING. |
| 02:06.09 | bzdoug | bryjen: how did it get in? |
| 02:06.12 | bryjen | ewwwww |
| 02:06.39 | bryjen | lurgyman sneezed, and you're all inside there, right ? :) |
| 02:06.54 | bzdoug | yum |
| 02:07.09 | bzdoug | there, all better |
| 02:07.16 | bryjen | thank you |
| 02:08.06 | bzdoug | ibot die |
| 02:08.08 | | rumour has it, die is takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless |
| 02:08.20 | bzdoug | smart mouth |
| 02:08.23 | vogon | man. |
| 02:08.27 | vogon | that so rocked. |
| 02:08.42 | vogon | ibot: no, die is <action> takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 02:08.44 | | vogon: okay |
| 02:08.47 | vogon | ibot: die |
| 02:08.49 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 02:09.10 | bryjen | murderer |
| 02:09.10 | bzdoug | ibot die!!!! |
| 02:09.12 | | bzdoug: i don't know |
| 02:09.18 | bzdoug | swine |
| 02:09.36 | bryjen | bzdoug: don't punctuate |
| 02:09.46 | bzdoug | yea |
| 02:10.01 | bzdoug | I was trying to get a heeman thing |
| 02:10.32 | bzdoug | me shoot ibot |
| 02:10.37 | bzdoug | ibot die |
| 02:10.39 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 02:12.43 | Noodleman | still patching |
| 02:12.48 | bzdoug | heh |
| 02:13.02 | bzdoug | would be quicker to make a second dir and get CVS |
| 02:13.16 | Noodleman | but then it wouldn't have MY mods :-) |
| 02:13.22 | bzdoug | oooh |
| 02:13.54 | Noodleman | about half done |
| 02:14.14 | bzdoug | k |
| 02:15.28 | bryjen | currently 31 servers, 8 with players |
| 02:16.12 | bzdoug | bryjen: heh |
| 02:17.48 | bryjen | and 67 players according to stats.bzflag.org |
| 02:17.59 | bzdoug | hm |
| 02:19.00 | jzaun | s.b.o is everyone in the last 5 min. |
| 02:19.09 | bryjen | avgs 8 per server, but the top 3 have more than their share |
| 02:20.01 | *** join/#bzflag paul (~paul@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 02:21.12 | *** join/#bzflag jpablo (~jpablo@dsl-200-67-6-1.prodigy.net.mx) |
| 02:21.43 | bryjen | ok, so 76 players, adding up what the list server returns. 70ish. close enough. |
| 02:22.08 | bzdoug | wow |
| 02:22.10 | bryjen | still 8-9 players/server |
| 02:22.22 | bryjen | average |
| 02:23.19 | bryjen | hmmmm, shouldnt the "everyone in the last 5 min" be higher than the list server ? |
| 02:24.36 | bryjen | or is s.b.o really "a snapshot taken every five minutes" ? |
| 02:30.42 | Noodleman | bzdoug: ok, building |
| 02:30.59 | bzdoug | ok |
| 02:31.00 | Noodleman | cross your fingers and hope it works :-) |
| 02:31.04 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 02:31.36 | bzdoug | I will see you on my server |
| 02:31.42 | Noodleman | ok :-) |
| 02:34.30 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 02:34.32 | bzdoug | sounds bad |
| 02:34.41 | bzdoug | maybe a segfault? |
| 02:35.12 | bzdoug | poll: a: segfault b: cable died c: he pulled the plug |
| 02:35.20 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~3v1ln00dl@bc176248.bendcable.com) |
| 02:35.28 | bzdoug | segfault? |
| 02:35.29 | Noodleman | bzdoug: are you here? |
| 02:35.32 | bzdoug | yah |
| 02:35.36 | bzdoug | it go boom? |
| 02:35.39 | bzdoug | crash? |
| 02:35.40 | bzdoug | bang |
| 02:35.43 | bzdoug | whoosh? |
| 02:35.47 | Noodleman | for some reason, rpm crahes when i try to install the package |
| 02:35.54 | bzdoug | rpm? |
| 02:35.58 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 02:36.00 | Noodleman | weird |
| 02:36.05 | bzdoug | whos usin rpm? |
| 02:36.15 | Noodleman | i am |
| 02:36.20 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 02:36.21 | bzdoug | odd |
| 02:36.24 | Noodleman | i'm building the modded bzflag as an rpm |
| 02:36.27 | bzdoug | ah |
| 02:36.38 | bzdoug | well, can you just run the binary? |
| 02:36.44 | Noodleman | ok, let's see what's wrong here... |
| 02:37.36 | Noodleman | no, it hangs too |
| 02:37.50 | Noodleman | what was the command for checking out the cvs version? |
| 02:38.16 | MrApathyCream | cvs co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 02:38.39 | Noodleman | what's the command for logging on to the cvs server? |
| 02:38.48 | MrApathyCream | i don't think you have to |
| 02:38.52 | MrApathyCream | i never do |
| 02:39.00 | MrApathyCream | ah, actually it's |
| 02:39.17 | MrApathyCream | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 02:39.53 | MrApathyCream | i have that saved in env var, so i never type that yucky part |
| 02:39.58 | MrApathyCream | so i might be off slightly |
| 02:40.08 | Noodleman | nope, it works |
| 02:40.12 | Noodleman | thanks |
| 02:41.13 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 02:41.28 | Noodleman | hey, doug, this is a bad patch file |
| 02:41.32 | bzdoug | eh? |
| 02:41.34 | bzdoug | worked for me |
| 02:41.38 | Noodleman | i think |
| 02:41.49 | bzdoug | try this |
| 02:41.50 | bzdoug | https://navi.picogui.org:3000/~micah/flight-simulator.patch.gz |
| 02:42.00 | bzdoug | it worked for me |
| 02:42.25 | bzdoug | that file is also not a .gz |
| 02:43.23 | bryjen | i've seen web browsers silently un-zip a file and leave the extension when downloading |
| 02:43.41 | bzdoug | not mine |
| 02:43.50 | bzdoug | it loaded right in the browser |
| 02:45.11 | Noodleman | ok, compiling |
| 02:45.18 | bzdoug | k |
| 02:45.20 | Noodleman | it had some weird lines in it |
| 02:45.24 | bzdoug | ah |
| 02:45.41 | Noodleman | the one you sent me had html tags in it :-) |
| 02:45.55 | bzdoug | ahhhh |
| 02:46.03 | bzdoug | I have a fixed one |
| 02:46.04 | bzdoug | :) |
| 02:46.08 | bzdoug | that one worked |
| 02:46.12 | *** join/#bzflag M1 (~80aef518@chat.ircnet.org) |
| 02:46.16 | bzdoug | building? |
| 02:46.26 | Noodleman | yup |
| 02:46.28 | M1 | anyone tried the 1.8 bzflag? |
| 02:46.34 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 02:46.38 | MrApathyCream | 1.8 is deprecated |
| 02:46.39 | bryjen | 1.8 is defunct |
| 02:46.41 | Noodleman | it's pretty neat so far |
| 02:46.43 | M1 | I can only find one sever for it |
| 02:46.44 | bzdoug | GONE! |
| 02:46.54 | Noodleman | why is it defunct? |
| 02:46.55 | bzdoug | M1: its gone, delete it! |
| 02:47.04 | M1 | :( |
| 02:47.05 | MrApathyCream | it was too optimistic of a dev effort |
| 02:47.05 | jpablo | https://navi.picogui.org:3000/~micah/flight-simulator.patch.gz <-- didn't work for me. |
| 02:47.09 | M1 | just install it |
| 02:47.12 | Noodleman | i never caught that news |
| 02:47.14 | bzdoug | jpablo: get the html tags out |
| 02:47.25 | bzdoug | M1: ;) |
| 02:47.39 | jpablo | out of where ? |
| 02:47.43 | MrApathyCream | We will get to it someday prolly, just in smaller incremental steps |
| 02:47.51 | M1 | where can I find the documentation for the bzflag? |
| 02:47.51 | bzdoug | jpablo: its not a .gz file |
| 02:47.58 | MrApathyCream | bzflag.org? |
| 02:48.00 | jpablo | yeah it is. |
| 02:48.03 | bzdoug | M1: you dont |
| 02:48.05 | bzdoug | :) |
| 02:48.13 | jpablo | o, it compiled afther i maked clean and make all again. |
| 02:48.20 | MrApathyCream | there's man pages for *nix and html for win |
| 02:48.21 | bzdoug | ah |
| 02:48.35 | M1 | I want to create a robot ctf team |
| 02:48.39 | MrApathyCream | there's also various tanker sites |
| 02:48.43 | bzdoug | Noodleman: compiled? |
| 02:48.57 | Noodleman | i'm trying it again in my modded version |
| 02:49.05 | bzdoug | M1: me too, if you know C++, then start coding it up |
| 02:49.11 | bzdoug | Noodleman: k |
| 02:49.20 | MrApathyCream | M1: You can play ctf with robots, but the robots are pretty stupid |
| 02:49.36 | MrApathyCream | They don't understand the ctf concept, they just shoot |
| 02:49.39 | M1 | I want to create some smart bots |
| 02:49.40 | bzdoug | yea |
| 02:49.40 | MrApathyCream | (and poorly) |
| 02:49.46 | bzdoug | shoot and dodge really good |
| 02:49.56 | M1 | 3 bots coorperate each other |
| 02:49.59 | MrApathyCream | Robots will eventually be redone, and outside of the client app |
| 02:50.08 | MrApathyCream | patches welcome ;) |
| 02:50.11 | bzdoug | M1: teach them to play CTF and move around randomly, then it will be nice |
| 02:51.08 | bzdoug | ~bleek |
| 02:51.10 | M1 | they should help each other |
| 02:51.19 | bzdoug | M1: yea, but get CTF down first |
| 02:51.30 | MrApathyCream | hmm, even redoing robots so they ONLY look for a flag, go get it and take it to base, would be a big accomplishment |
| 02:51.32 | M1 | I cannot find the documentation at sourceforge |
| 02:51.43 | MrApathyCream | What doc do you want? |
| 02:51.45 | jpablo | how can i keep going once i soped in that flight thingy ? |
| 02:51.47 | bzdoug | MrApathyCream: and dodge |
| 02:51.52 | Noodleman | ok, i'll see you at your server, bzdoug |
| 02:51.55 | bzdoug | jpablo: go up |
| 02:51.58 | MrApathyCream | bzdoug: even without that it would be a big thing |
| 02:51.59 | bzdoug | ok |
| 02:52.01 | bzdoug | yea |
| 02:52.04 | M1 | class structures |
| 02:52.34 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag uses a new documentation system. Download the latest cvs, the documentation is in a file format with a cxx extension |
| 02:52.39 | jpablo | and if i stoped against the level limit ? |
| 02:53.12 | M1 | in which directory? |
| 02:53.14 | bzdoug | jpablo: go up and do a back flip |
| 02:53.19 | bzdoug | jpablo: its not perfect |
| 02:53.21 | jpablo | humm. |
| 02:53.24 | jpablo | ok. |
| 02:53.26 | MrApathyCream | M1: Well most cxx's are in bzflag/src |
| 02:53.31 | bzdoug | jpablo: or shoot yourseld |
| 02:53.33 | Noodleman | can't connect to your server, doug |
| 02:53.40 | bzdoug | Noodleman: hmm |
| 02:53.44 | bzdoug | Noodleman: heckaman.bzflag.org? |
| 02:53.47 | MrApathyCream | for the client it's bzflag/src/bzflag |
| 02:53.56 | MrApathyCream | for the server it's bzflag/src/bzfs |
| 02:54.02 | Noodleman | yup |
| 02:54.03 | bzdoug | try heckaman.no-ip.com |
| 02:54.05 | MrApathyCream | (mostly) |
| 02:54.13 | M1 | seems like the source code, instead of doc |
| 02:54.24 | MrApathyCream | that's the new documentation system that bzflag uses :) |
| 02:54.28 | Noodleman | it says connectio problem or something like that |
| 02:54.39 | bzdoug | 216.135.68.133 |
| 02:54.49 | bzdoug | let me reboot the server |
| 02:54.50 | bzdoug | first |
| 02:55.03 | bzdoug | yum |
| 02:56.28 | bzdoug | ~seen monkey |
| 02:56.35 | | i haven't seen 'monkey', bzdoug |
| 02:56.35 | bzdoug | ~seen santa |
| 02:56.35 | | santa is currently on #picogui #bzflag. Has said a total of 127 messages. Is idling for 1h 34m 4s |
| 02:56.38 | bzdoug | ~seen saten |
| 02:56.39 | | bzdoug: i haven't seen 'saten' |
| 02:56.56 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 02:56.59 | MrApathyCream | much better |
| 02:57.20 | MrApathyCream | ooof |
| 02:57.46 | MrApathyCream | santa is prot i take it? |
| 02:57.54 | bzdoug | yup |
| 02:58.16 | MrApathyCream | rumor has it he's out buying gifts for us all, as we speak |
| 02:58.22 | bzdoug | yes |
| 02:58.33 | bzdoug | ~santa is buying us all gifts |
| 02:58.34 | | okay, bzdoug |
| 02:58.40 | bzdoug | ~santa |
| 02:58.42 | | it has been said that santa is buying us all gifts |
| 02:58.51 | MrApathyCream | they say his parents are idle-rich, he just goes to college to 'look good' |
| 02:59.01 | bzdoug | ~no, santa is buying us all gifts from thinkgeek.com |
| 02:59.06 | bzdoug | ah |
| 02:59.07 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~3v1ln00dl@bc176248.bendcable.com) |
| 02:59.10 | bzdoug | well? |
| 02:59.14 | Noodleman | nope |
| 02:59.18 | bzdoug | ~santa? |
| 02:59.19 | | it has been said that santa is buying us all gifts |
| 02:59.19 | Noodleman | i had to reboot |
| 02:59.22 | MrApathyCream | i think thinkgeek sells those robot tanks, no? |
| 02:59.24 | bzdoug | Noodleman: bah |
| 02:59.32 | bzdoug | Noodleman: did you try the CVS? |
| 02:59.35 | Noodleman | i'll start up a server |
| 02:59.39 | bzdoug | MrApathyCream: yup |
| 02:59.39 | Noodleman | just a sec |
| 02:59.41 | bzdoug | Noodleman: k |
| 02:59.48 | bzdoug | but it wont be huge |
| 02:59.55 | MrApathyCream | note to prot: that would be fine |
| 03:00.14 | bzdoug | I want the really tiny R/C car |
| 03:00.23 | MrApathyCream | mm, have you been a good boy? |
| 03:00.30 | bzdoug | Noodleman: also put lots of lasers |
| 03:00.36 | bzdoug | MrApathyCream: yup yup yup |
| 03:01.09 | bzdoug | hum, and I suppose MrApathyCream is the perfect saint? |
| 03:01.51 | bzdoug | ah |
| 03:02.04 | bzdoug | MrApathyCream is rich and gets his own toys |
| 03:02.11 | Noodleman | ok, doug, it's noodleroni.com, port 5157 |
| 03:02.16 | bryjen | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5776/ |
| 03:02.17 | bzdoug | ok |
| 03:03.24 | MrApathyCream | yup there the ones |
| 03:03.42 | MrApathyCream | hopefully prot will remember the optional wireless cameras |
| 03:03.58 | MrApathyCream | mm, maybe we should get two each |
| 03:04.07 | MrApathyCream | (he is idle-rich) |
| 03:05.49 | MrApathyCream | Haiku moment: |
| 03:05.52 | MrApathyCream | Proton plays Santa |
| 03:05.58 | MrApathyCream | Presents for all BZ Boys |
| 03:06.03 | MrApathyCream | Ain't he a swell guy |
| 03:06.05 | MrApathyCream | ---- |
| 03:06.31 | bryjen | $ uptime |
| 03:06.33 | bryjen | 21:12:29 up 4:25, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.08 |
| 03:06.41 | bryjen | i'm just plain idle |
| 03:06.54 | MrApathyCream | i'm just plain loaded |
| 03:07.39 | bryjen | that would explain your driving :) |
| 03:08.13 | MrApathyCream | $ uptime |
| 03:08.19 | MrApathyCream | 22:13:34 up 212:33, 84 users, load average: 0.02,0.11,0.21 |
| 03:09.04 | bryjen | I see |
| 03:09.40 | bryjen | multi-luser or lotsa xterms open ? |
| 03:10.29 | MrApathyCream | actually i'm just running iexplore.exe with http://chat.ircnet.org on a 2k box at school |
| 03:10.46 | bzdoug | tsk tsk |
| 03:11.19 | MrApathyCream | uh-oh--- surge |
| 03:11.20 | MrApathyCream | 22:17:54 up 212:33, 135 users, load average: 0.02,0.11,0.21 |
| 03:11.38 | MrApathyCream | hmm, windoz seems to be handling the load well |
| 03:13.02 | Noodleman | bzdoug: ok building |
| 03:13.10 | bzdoug | Noodleman: ok |
| 03:13.12 | bzdoug | server died |
| 03:13.20 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.28 | Noodleman | i probably accidentally pressed ctrl-c :-) |
| 03:13.35 | bzdoug | ah |
| 03:13.59 | MrApathyCream | sussudio: germany? |
| 03:14.06 | sussudio | nein |
| 03:14.20 | bzdoug | amterdamn |
| 03:14.27 | Noodleman | no, the hague |
| 03:14.32 | sussudio | amsterdam is for wh0res |
| 03:14.38 | MrApathyCream | same thing to us americans ;) |
| 03:15.18 | MrApathyCream | there's usa and ... others |
| 03:15.24 | MrApathyCream | i take it your an other |
| 03:15.35 | JAH | man |
| 03:15.48 | JAH | gotta love cheaters |
| 03:15.52 | MrApathyCream | gotta |
| 03:16.33 | MrApathyCream | Jeff from nevada? |
| 03:16.45 | sussudio | hmm i scratched my back and now blood is dripping down it |
| 03:16.46 | bzdoug | ummm |
| 03:16.48 | bzdoug | I think |
| 03:16.58 | MrApathyCream | sussudio: tmi |
| 03:17.04 | sussudio | tmi? |
| 03:17.12 | MrApathyCream | ~tmi |
| 03:17.40 | MrApathyCream | ibot, tmi? |
| 03:17.42 | | MrApathyCream: are you smoking crack? |
| 03:17.52 | MrApathyCream | why yes, yes i am |
| 03:18.09 | sussudio | blood is very difficult to get out of white sheets :-P |
| 03:18.35 | JAH | MrApathyCream: Jeff from VA |
| 03:19.01 | bzdoug | VA? |
| 03:19.02 | MrApathyCream | ibot, tmi? |
| 03:19.04 | | tmi stands for too much information |
| 03:19.10 | MrApathyCream | <virginia> |
| 03:19.26 | bzdoug | HE IS IN VIRGINIA? |
| 03:19.41 | MrApathyCream | either that or he is a veteran |
| 03:19.52 | bzdoug | ah |
| 03:20.05 | MrApathyCream | could be a veteran who is in virginia |
| 03:20.10 | MrApathyCream | <insert joke here> |
| 03:20.19 | bzdoug | k |
| 03:20.25 | bzdoug | ~joke |
| 03:20.26 | | joke 3 |
| 03:20.33 | MrApathyCream | hahahaha |
| 03:20.51 | bzdoug | hahah |
| 03:20.55 | bzdoug | hum |
| 03:20.57 | bzdoug | I have to go |
| 03:21.07 | bzdoug | I am sure all of you will hate it, but I must |
| 03:21.49 | sussudio | go now |
| 03:21.55 | MrApathyCream | please |
| 03:21.57 | bzdoug | NEVER!!!! |
| 03:22.52 | bzdoug | hm |
| 03:23.20 | Noodleman | bzdoug: now, let's see if this works |
| 03:23.25 | bzdoug | ok |
| 03:23.27 | bzdoug | :) |
| 03:23.40 | MrApathyCream | wait; you were going to bed |
| 03:23.45 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 03:23.56 | MrApathyCream | cya, later |
| 03:23.57 | bzdoug | server aint up |
| 03:24.09 | Noodleman | now it is :-) |
| 03:24.16 | Noodleman | i'll be there in a bit |
| 03:24.26 | Noodleman | as soon as this finishes compiling |
| 03:25.02 | sussudio | damn he quit |
| 03:25.19 | bzdoug | k |
| 03:25.22 | M1 | ok |
| 03:25.41 | bzdoug | server died |
| 03:25.43 | sussudio | go away doug |
| 03:26.08 | bzdoug | grrr |
| 03:26.18 | bzdoug | Noodleman: I have to go.... |
| 03:26.22 | Noodleman | ok |
| 03:26.33 | bzdoug | Noodleman: we can test it tomorrow or something |
| 03:26.38 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 03:26.39 | bzdoug | :) |
| 03:26.40 | Noodleman | cya |
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| 03:28.21 | M1 | anyone know what event handling software is ued in bzflag? |
| 03:28.38 | vogon | m1: BZFlag uses its own custom event loop. |
| 03:28.47 | vogon | m1: depending on the renderer in use. |
| 03:29.12 | vogon | the class representing the event is BzfEvent. |
| 03:29.27 | vogon | the event loop itself, IIRC, is in playing.cxx. |
| 03:29.46 | M1 | I will take a look |
| 03:29.50 | M1 | thanks |
| 03:29.52 | vogon | no prob. |
| 03:30.11 | vogon | the event handlers are in src/platform/<whatever>Display.cxx. |
| 03:31.21 | M1 | how the environment is constructed? |
| 03:31.37 | vogon | not sure. |
| 03:31.42 | vogon | I haven't dug into that code much. |
| 03:32.02 | M1 | I mean the buildings and boundary |
| 03:32.28 | vogon | ahh. |
| 03:32.42 | vogon | the client downloads a WorldDatabase from the server. |
| 03:33.09 | vogon | and deserializes it into the proper structure. |
| 03:33.21 | vogon | I forget exactly where the code is, but some of it's handled in playing.cxx. |
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| 03:37.49 | M1 | which file defines the structure of the package between server and client? |
| 03:38.39 | M1 | which file has the structure of the data transferring between server and client? |
| 03:39.59 | BZFlag | protocol.h has msg definitions for both. |
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| 03:45.06 | M1 | where are messages parsed |
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| 03:47.53 | BZFlag | all over the place at present. |
| 03:48.06 | BZFlag | look for the nbo* functions. |
| 03:48.50 | M1 | thanks |
| 03:49.04 | M1 | I think I have learned enough today |
| 03:49.21 | M1 | go to have some fun now |
| 03:49.25 | M1 | ciao |
| 03:51.44 | hardwire | ok |
| 03:51.47 | hardwire | the new model is in |
| 03:51.49 | hardwire | but.. |
| 03:51.55 | hardwire | I am having normal issues :) |
| 03:52.38 | Patlabor221 | are the normalized? |
| 03:52.57 | hardwire | its funky blenderness |
| 03:53.03 | hardwire | you copy then mirror something |
| 03:53.07 | hardwire | then recalc the normals |
| 03:53.14 | hardwire | even look at where the normals are facing |
| 03:53.21 | hardwire | and for some reason the normals are still inversed |
| 03:53.36 | hardwire | now a quick way to normalize obj files? |
| 03:53.56 | Patlabor221 | milkshape will |
| 03:54.11 | hardwire | linux/doze? |
| 03:54.15 | Patlabor221 | win |
| 03:54.22 | hardwire | if I had a win partition I would use it |
| 03:54.28 | hardwire | milkshape |
| 03:54.32 | Patlabor221 | too bad my anime class won't write obj |
| 03:54.44 | hardwire | anime class? |
| 03:54.49 | Patlabor221 | it will recompute normals and smooth them |
| 03:54.51 | Patlabor221 | anim |
| 03:54.53 | Patlabor221 | sorry |
| 03:54.54 | hardwire | heh |
| 03:55.06 | hardwire | tomahome = new Anime::Dude() |
| 03:55.38 | hardwire | what will it read/write? |
| 03:55.39 | Patlabor221 | no it would be new Anime:HotChick(eBikini); |
| 03:55.52 | Patlabor221 | it only writes my own format |
| 03:55.56 | hardwire | ah |
| 03:56.10 | Patlabor221 | but it reads u3d obj, and md3 |
| 03:56.29 | hardwire | I wish 3dto3d worked |
| 03:56.31 | Patlabor221 | it was suposed to read and write bzg too |
| 03:57.00 | Patlabor221 | is blender the only modeler out there for linux? |
| 03:57.50 | hardwire | there are others |
| 03:57.55 | vogon | Maya, for instance. |
| 03:57.57 | hardwire | just don't really know a list of them |
| 03:58.06 | Patlabor221 | I looked and coudn't find much |
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| 04:04.45 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: patched added ;) |
| 04:05.56 | MrApathyCream | urg |
| 04:14.32 | JAH | ohh, we should add cell-shaded polys |
| 04:15.56 | vogon | patches welcome. |
| 04:15.57 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: heh. |
| 04:16.09 | sussudio | we should add bunnies |
| 04:16.18 | vogon | sussudio: I second that motion. |
| 04:17.04 | sussudio | ofcourse, that would require a "holy grenade" flag |
| 04:17.08 | BZFlag | TODO: make explosion based on simple mesh division to support changeable meshes later on. |
| 04:22.35 | hardwire | bunnies would be cool |
| 04:22.55 | hardwire | would be cooler to make giant bunny meshes for the tanks.. |
| 04:23.00 | hardwire | :( |
| 04:23.05 | hardwire | bunny go bye bye |
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| 04:30.29 | Patlabor221 | mechabunny? |
| 04:30.58 | Patlabor221 | like ultra-peepy? |
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| 04:48.23 | hardwire | hehhttp://segfault.bogomip.com/bzbug.jpg |
| 04:48.25 | hardwire | err |
| 04:48.27 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/bzbug.jpg |
| 04:49.44 | Patlabor221 | could put wheels on the feet and call it a fuchicoma |
| 04:52.36 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:54.28 | hardwire | looks sweet with GL_SMOOTH |
| 04:54.47 | Patlabor221 | sounds like you got your normals right then |
| 04:58.58 | hardwire | finally |
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| 05:07.21 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:07.27 | hardwire | some ass on bzflag.net is cheating |
| 05:07.36 | hardwire | 85861019 |
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| 05:08.40 | hardwire | bastard |
| 05:08.49 | hardwire | shots go right thru him |
| 05:12.07 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:12.10 | hardwire | no shit |
| 05:12.18 | hardwire | Tim are you on bzflag.net? |
| 05:14.12 | BZFlag | nope. |
| 05:14.56 | hardwire | hmm |
| 05:14.57 | hardwire | damn |
| 05:15.15 | hardwire | wanna see my spiders :) |
| 05:19.26 | hardwire | http://segfualt.bogomip.com/spider_model.tgz just extract that in the models dir |
| 05:19.32 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/spider_model.tgz just extract that in the models dir |
| 05:19.35 | hardwire | spelled right even |
| 05:23.18 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:23.47 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/bzbug2.jpg |
| 05:23.49 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/bzbug3.jpg |
| 05:24.25 | Patlabor221 | talk about some warnings |
| 05:24.34 | hardwire | rawr? |
| 05:24.43 | Patlabor221 | double to float trucs |
| 05:25.01 | Patlabor221 | didn't put "f" at the end of your data values |
| 05:25.14 | hardwire | yeah |
| 05:25.17 | Patlabor221 | no bigie |
| 05:25.21 | hardwire | I guess I will tell the export filter to do that |
| 05:25.32 | hardwire | its written in python.. not to hard |
| 05:25.32 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:28.10 | BZFlag | wild. |
| 05:28.48 | Patlabor221 | not bad for prim based modeling |
| 05:29.03 | hardwire | its called mesh warping :) |
| 05:29.21 | Patlabor221 | it cleaned up nicely |
| 05:29.30 | hardwire | well.. |
| 05:29.33 | hardwire | it was moddled with prims |
| 05:29.36 | Patlabor221 | slap some UV's on that and make a skin for it |
| 05:29.40 | hardwire | then I removed all the edges/faces |
| 05:29.43 | hardwire | simplified it myself |
| 05:29.48 | hardwire | and recreated all the faces manually |
| 05:30.24 | hardwire | BZFlag: wild? :P |
| 05:30.32 | Patlabor221 | I"ll usaly start with a prim, usualy a box |
| 05:30.41 | Patlabor221 | and then split and pull stuff off |
| 05:30.52 | Patlabor221 | and add sweeps and stuff |
| 05:31.03 | BZFlag | yeah. are there textures on anything? |
| 05:31.16 | hardwire | well |
| 05:31.18 | hardwire | I dunno |
| 05:31.26 | hardwire | there are no texture coords |
| 05:31.26 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:31.28 | Patlabor221 | no you have no UV coords |
| 05:31.31 | BZFlag | heh |
| 05:31.31 | hardwire | cause I have no clue how to do that :) |
| 05:31.45 | Patlabor221 | no calls to glTextCoord2f() |
| 05:32.18 | hardwire | yeh |
| 05:32.20 | Patlabor221 | you should put the Mk.III in there :) http://www.bakadigital.com/screamers/Mk3Tex.png |
| 05:32.28 | hardwire | anybody wanna clue me in on how those work? |
| 05:32.44 | Patlabor221 | well it all depends on how you define them in blender |
| 05:32.55 | Patlabor221 | does it have a way to wrap a texture around an object? |
| 05:32.59 | hardwire | yeah |
| 05:33.03 | hardwire | it has a neat uv system |
| 05:33.10 | Patlabor221 | then define UVs for it |
| 05:33.14 | Patlabor221 | make the skin |
| 05:33.16 | hardwire | I just have to steal it using the filter somewhere |
| 05:33.24 | hardwire | whats the skin bz uses currently? |
| 05:33.26 | Patlabor221 | OBJ will hold the UVS |
| 05:33.37 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:33.42 | Patlabor221 | it uses the flage texture for the tanks |
| 05:33.47 | Patlabor221 | then colors it for the team |
| 05:33.57 | hardwire | mwa ha ha |
| 05:33.58 | hardwire | no shit? |
| 05:34.05 | Patlabor221 | flage.rgb |
| 05:34.06 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:34.10 | Patlabor221 | that's what it's named |
| 05:34.23 | Patlabor221 | I don't know why it's called that |
| 05:34.25 | hardwire | I got kicked for killing tema players |
| 05:34.26 | hardwire | mwa ha ha |
| 05:34.34 | hardwire | man I need to play more cooperative games |
| 05:34.40 | Patlabor221 | gets confusing with flag.rgb |
| 05:35.11 | hardwire | btw whats the uv map on the tank |
| 05:35.17 | hardwire | just a uv map directed at the side? |
| 05:35.21 | hardwire | all one anglE? |
| 05:35.50 | Patlabor221 | usualy it's more then a single wrap |
| 05:35.59 | hardwire | h,, |
| 05:36.00 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:36.03 | hardwire | hmm |
| 05:36.05 | Patlabor221 | the wrap is base to start from |
| 05:36.08 | Patlabor221 | then you tweak |
| 05:36.12 | hardwire | well |
| 05:36.21 | hardwire | I dobily do believe I am gonna do some damage then |
| 05:36.21 | Patlabor221 | so it all fits on a single texture |
| 05:36.21 | hardwire | brb |
| 05:37.04 | hardwire | Patlabor221: yeah.. blender you can basically say.. put this uv map. from this camera viewpoint if I wish.. and blast it onto this model |
| 05:37.11 | hardwire | so it might calc the wrapping for me |
| 05:37.16 | hardwire | on a few things |
| 05:37.19 | hardwire | nothing complex |
| 05:38.49 | BZFlag | the default models do have texturing. |
| 05:39.01 | hardwire | hmm |
| 05:39.06 | hardwire | I would love to just have a shiney finish to it |
| 05:39.24 | hardwire | and then bring it back into GL_FLAT |
| 05:39.26 | BZFlag | I assume it's camoflage |
| 05:39.33 | BZFlag | ~spell camoflage |
| 05:39.33 | | possible spellings for camoflage: camouflage |
| 05:39.44 | BZFlag | ok, camouflage |
| 05:39.59 | Patlabor221 | you can turn on gl Shinnnyness |
| 05:40.19 | BZFlag | let's see some transparency too. ;-) |
| 05:40.50 | hardwire | oh |
| 05:40.51 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:40.53 | hardwire | on? |
| 05:41.10 | Patlabor221 | here is the texture as it sits unwraped for one of my things http://www.bakadigital.com/default.png |
| 05:41.23 | hardwire | idiot digital? |
| 05:41.32 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 05:41.35 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:41.39 | Patlabor221 | doug still dosn't get it |
| 05:41.47 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:41.52 | hardwire | like |
| 05:41.58 | hardwire | didn't do that on purpose? |
| 05:42.14 | hardwire | bzdoug: baka toma |
| 05:42.33 | Patlabor221 | ohh I made the domain cus it was funny |
| 05:43.01 | Patlabor221 | it's just a machine at my work |
| 05:43.10 | Patlabor221 | and I didn't want to use one of there domains |
| 05:43.46 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:43.57 | hardwire | ah |
| 05:44.02 | hardwire | I take that back then bzdoug |
| 05:45.20 | Patlabor221 | no, it's ok, he is an idiot :) |
| 05:46.08 | vogon | The Awful Forums > Forums > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > my computer is making a funny humming noise when i turn it on? |
| 05:46.16 | vogon | -- |
| 05:46.18 | vogon | I think it's the fan motor? |
| 05:46.19 | vogon | -- |
| 05:46.26 | vogon | Fans have been known to make noise, yes. |
| 05:46.29 | Noodleman | do you know which file has the code for respawning? |
| 05:46.44 | vogon | Noodleman: the server figures out the respawn position. |
| 05:47.08 | vogon | Noodleman: and the client decodes the message in playing.cxx, IIRC. |
| 05:47.12 | Noodleman | well, yeah, but the client has to run some code to draw the screen, play that pop sound, etc. |
| 05:48.15 | jpablo | any ducati admin ? |
| 05:48.19 | jpablo | spoonge is back in ducati ... |
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| 05:48.55 | Noodleman | it's in playing.cxx, under restartPlaying() |
| 05:49.01 | Noodleman | thx |
| 05:49.49 | BZFlag | should that be digitalbaka? |
| 05:51.56 | Noodleman | do you know where the code is to pick up a flag? |
| 05:53.18 | hardwire | neat |
| 05:53.20 | BZFlag | client sends flaggrab, server then acks and now you have a flag. |
| 05:53.26 | hardwire | found the uvcoordinates |
| 05:54.03 | hardwire | ok |
| 05:54.06 | Noodleman | thanks |
| 05:54.07 | hardwire | quick question |
| 05:54.14 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.14 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.22 | hardwire | TexCoord is 2 points? |
| 05:59.07 | BZFlag | tanks look funky with brick on them. ;-) |
| 06:00.15 | BZFlag | http://www.hmug.org/man/3/glTexCoord.html |
| 06:04.44 | Patlabor221 | yes TC is 2 points |
| 06:04.50 | Patlabor221 | it's a point on the texture |
| 06:05.26 | Patlabor221 | well one point, 2 coords, a 2d point |
| 06:07.43 | Santa | bwahahaha |
| 06:07.54 | Santa | scanline was exposed to sushi tonight |
| 06:08.06 | scanline | the ones I liked were good :) |
| 06:08.55 | scanline | gah.. right turn only flag is a bit annoying while flying |
| 06:09.09 | Santa | haha |
| 06:09.29 | Patlabor221 | what did he have? |
| 06:10.26 | Santa | lesee |
| 06:10.44 | scanline | Patlabor221: green, white, and pink |
| 06:10.58 | Santa | caterpillar rolls, california rolls (not my choice), yellotail rolls, tuna, octopus, salmon roe, and both kinds of eel |
| 06:11.34 | Patlabor221 | should have gone for the regular salmon |
| 06:11.42 | Patlabor221 | or perhaps a washington roll |
| 06:11.50 | Patlabor221 | octopus is rather bland |
| 06:11.57 | Santa | salmon roe is an experience that everyone has to have once |
| 06:12.10 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 06:12.28 | Patlabor221 | but have you ever had a washington roll, slathered in ichi sauce? |
| 06:12.57 | Patlabor221 | ichi sauce has replaced soy sauce |
| 06:13.00 | scanline | actually... |
| 06:13.01 | Patlabor221 | when I go |
| 06:13.27 | Santa | ichi sauce? |
| 06:13.40 | Patlabor221 | ginger mustard sees sauce |
| 06:13.45 | Patlabor221 | seed not sees |
| 06:13.57 | Patlabor221 | it's the sauce that's in sonumuno |
| 06:14.40 | Patlabor221 | the sushi at your place isn't on a moving belt is it? |
| 06:15.07 | Santa | no it isn't |
| 06:15.10 | Patlabor221 | very good |
| 06:15.16 | scanline | it was a stationary white belt made out of cardboard |
| 06:15.27 | Santa | we got it to go because it was too busy |
| 06:15.27 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 06:15.30 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 06:16.18 | Santa | bad vogon! sit! |
| 06:16.27 | Santa | vogon: respawn position is in the client code |
| 06:17.00 | BZFlag | scanline: patches welcome. ;-) |
| 06:17.07 | Patlabor221 | bzflag, the mk2? |
| 06:17.11 | Santa | BZFlag: you don't want his patches ;-) |
| 06:17.14 | scanline | BZFlag: I don't think you'd want this patch... it's my flight simulator mode :) |
| 06:17.16 | Patlabor221 | ohh those |
| 06:17.22 | Patlabor221 | those are very primmy |
| 06:17.27 | hardwire | buggy tanky thingy |
| 06:17.51 | BZFlag | http://www.wizards.de/~frank/project2501/Capture_07012002_231845.jpg |
| 06:18.07 | Patlabor221 | yes the super prim tanks :) |
| 06:18.26 | hardwire | neat |
| 06:20.07 | scanline | hehe... going below the ground is fun... you can see the bottom of buildings and pyramids fighting over the Z buffer |
| 06:22.32 | scanline | wow... the GM from an airborne tank does collision detection properly. not surprising, but this would be really cheap if there were other people on this server =) |
| 06:22.54 | Santa | hahaha that bug hack is cool |
| 06:23.11 | scanline | which bug hack? |
| 06:23.12 | hardwire | its getting better |
| 06:23.19 | Santa | scanline: scroll up |
| 06:23.26 | hardwire | scanline: I blendered up a model for a new tank |
| 06:23.32 | Patlabor221 | like this tank bzflag? http://www.artemisgames.com/TankShots.png |
| 06:23.54 | hardwire | thats neat |
| 06:24.07 | Patlabor221 | I still need to texture that one |
| 06:24.11 | scanline | neat |
| 06:24.13 | Santa | Patlabor221: isn't this the most helpful example ever: |
| 06:24.16 | Santa | http://www.openal.org/snapshots/openal/docs/oalspecs-specs/x178.html |
| 06:24.32 | BZFlag | Patlabor221: not the off center turret (at least not for now) but the rest is cool! |
| 06:24.53 | Patlabor221 | cap: wow that's some simple inits |
| 06:25.04 | hardwire | taking a while to compile |
| 06:25.14 | Patlabor221 | bzflag, that's an older one I have a turret somewhere where it's on center |
| 06:25.22 | Santa | well, i'm off to bed - early exam tomorrow |
| 06:25.46 | hardwire | brb |
| 06:25.55 | scanline | Santa: g'night |
| 06:26.22 | Noodleman | good night ppl |
| 06:26.32 | Patlabor221 | there's thisone, too, tho I don't like the base |
| 06:26.34 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/Tank3.png |
| 06:26.41 | Patlabor221 | see you man of noodles |
| 06:27.01 | hardwire | YAY! |
| 06:27.06 | hardwire | the tank be textured! |
| 06:27.18 | Patlabor221 | of course it can |
| 06:27.25 | Patlabor221 | the old tank had a texture too |
| 06:29.42 | hardwire | `well |
| 06:29.49 | hardwire | now it has coordinates for the uv map |
| 06:31.46 | BZFlag | Patlabor221: cool. |
| 06:32.19 | BZFlag | we need to hack in external file support for meshes and textures soon. then update the cache to support them. |
| 06:33.16 | hardwire | but you would have to have a static bounding box |
| 06:33.28 | hardwire | otherwise there would be lots of tiny people |
| 06:34.02 | Patlabor221 | the quakes did that, the BB for gameplay was hardcoded |
| 06:34.03 | BZFlag | right. server administered meshes, same bounding box. |
| 06:34.10 | BZFlag | BB? |
| 06:34.15 | BZFlag | oh, bounding box. |
| 06:34.17 | Patlabor221 | Bounding box |
| 06:34.33 | Patlabor221 | and they didn't auto send meshes to clients |
| 06:34.36 | BZFlag | yeah, bb ;-) is one issue, but on screen display is another. |
| 06:34.41 | hardwire | server meshes |
| 06:34.42 | hardwire | thats juts cool |
| 06:34.46 | Patlabor221 | you had to have it or someone using the other mesh showed up as the defualt |
| 06:35.05 | Patlabor221 | so it was up to the client what meshes he had. |
| 06:35.31 | BZFlag | I'd say server sent meshes or an option on the client to map them all to the same as you. and then you can pick your own of course. |
| 06:35.49 | hardwire | damnit.. people keep jumping on servers. all hacked up |
| 06:35.54 | hardwire | pissin me off |
| 06:37.33 | hardwire | man |
| 06:37.35 | hardwire | now to make em walk |
| 06:39.49 | hardwire | its neat watching bug parts fly |
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| 07:10.20 | MrApathyCream | -pr just say no -pr just say no -pr just say no |
| 07:31.55 | BZFlag | huh? |
| 07:32.12 | MrApathyCream | just a not so subtle prode to do network changes |
| 07:32.16 | BZFlag | what's wrong with -pr? |
| 07:32.18 | BZFlag | ah. |
| 07:32.44 | MrApathyCream | btw, there's been reports of someone going server to server kicking all folks off each |
| 07:32.52 | MrApathyCream | not sure if they have admin, or found a hole |
| 07:32.56 | BZFlag | so decks still the fav map? |
| 07:33.06 | MrApathyCream | *shrug* |
| 07:33.13 | BZFlag | probably killed the server. |
| 07:33.21 | MrApathyCream | folks say server is still up |
| 07:33.28 | BZFlag | wierd |
| 07:33.31 | MrApathyCream | swine was hit, apparently |
| 07:33.44 | MrApathyCream | i like the new hix |
| 07:33.55 | BZFlag | might be they learned how to get the bzcops password? |
| 07:34.08 | BZFlag | thanx. I thought the octagons were fun. |
| 07:34.28 | MrApathyCream | bzcops: could be |
| 07:34.29 | BZFlag | not completely happy with the "supports" but it's ok. |
| 07:34.41 | MrApathyCream | ah, i like the supports |
| 07:35.02 | BZFlag | the top octagonal roof is wierd. you can jump/shoot through it and I don't know why. |
| 07:35.23 | MrApathyCream | i believe that's true of any pyramid who's base is off the ground |
| 07:35.31 | MrApathyCream | You can also drive thru them, i believe |
| 07:35.34 | BZFlag | yeah? hmm. |
| 07:35.36 | MrApathyCream | shots go out, but don't go in |
| 07:35.52 | MrApathyCream | So you can sit in a pyramid and shoot out and be mostly invisible |
| 07:35.58 | BZFlag | wild. |
| 07:36.01 | MrApathyCream | er invincible |
| 07:36.21 | MrApathyCream | Try turkey.moongroup |
| 07:36.28 | MrApathyCream | there's a platform with 6 pyramids |
| 07:36.38 | MrApathyCream | heh, well turkey just changed |
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| 07:37.59 | bomber | moin |
| 07:38.03 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 07:39.02 | hardwire | grr |
| 07:39.41 | BZFlag | where is the platform? |
| 07:39.47 | BZFlag | ah. |
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| 07:40.51 | M_A_C | dang modem |
| 07:43.48 | BZFlag | well sheesh, that's a bug/ |
| 07:43.54 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:44.21 | MrApathyCream | funny, tho, it's so well known that most world designers take advantage of that |
| 07:44.47 | BZFlag | well, it should get "fixed" |
| 07:44.52 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:44.55 | MrApathyCream | patches welcome ;) |
| 07:44.58 | BZFlag | heh |
| 07:46.44 | MrApathyCream | similar to this problem: |
| 07:46.45 | MrApathyCream | box |
| 07:46.45 | MrApathyCream | position 0 0 0.1 |
| 07:46.45 | MrApathyCream | size 100 100 10 |
| 07:46.45 | MrApathyCream | rotation 0 |
| 07:46.45 | MrApathyCream | end |
| 07:47.23 | BZFlag | yeah, well that one's just abuse. ;-) |
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| 07:48.00 | hardwire | bah |
| 07:48.04 | hardwire | this is driving me nutz |
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| 07:48.35 | prodan | somebody called system god on turkey is causing clients to segfault |
| 07:48.38 | hardwire | faces aren't normalized anymore.. |
| 07:49.12 | MrApathyCream | hmmm |
| 07:49.16 | swine | Hi folks, someone is creating havoc on turkey |
| 07:49.18 | MrApathyCream | anybody got a stack trace? |
| 07:49.22 | prodan | brb |
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| 07:49.24 | MrApathyCream | lemme go |
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| 07:51.03 | MrApathyCream | ok i got a stack trace of the segfault |
| 07:51.15 | swine | I guess if we didnt have A@@holes around we wouldn't know who the good people are |
| 07:51.32 | MrApathyCream | RemoteShotPath::update(float dt) |
| 07:52.08 | prodan | how did you get the stack trace |
| 07:52.20 | MrApathyCream | running debug version |
| 07:52.30 | MrApathyCream | ShotPathSegment& segment = segments[numSegments - 1]; |
| 07:52.33 | prodan | you went in and system god kicked you? |
| 07:52.34 | MrApathyCream | numSegments is -1 |
| 07:52.52 | MrApathyCream | ir i mean numSegments is 0 |
| 07:52.54 | MrApathyCream | so index is -1 |
| 07:52.57 | MrApathyCream | thus segfault |
| 07:53.18 | MrApathyCream | ShotStrategy.cxx 367 |
| 07:54.27 | MrApathyCream | prodan: yup |
| 07:54.44 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: you there? |
| 07:55.16 | MrApathyCream | _assert(void * 0x00537eb8 `string', void * 0x00537ed8 `string', unsigned int 237) line 256 |
| 07:55.17 | MrApathyCream | AList::voidGet(int -1) line 237 + 40 bytes |
| 07:55.17 | MrApathyCream | ShotPathSegments::operator[](int -1) line 98 + 41 bytes |
| 07:55.17 | MrApathyCream | SegmentedShotStrategy::update(float 0.0139336) line 367 + 18 bytes |
| 07:55.17 | MrApathyCream | ShotPath::updateShot(float 0.0139336) line 195 + 30 bytes |
| 07:55.17 | MrApathyCream | RemoteShotPath::update(float 0.0139336) line 278 |
| 07:55.18 | MrApathyCream | RemotePlayer::updateShots(float 0.0139336) line 110 |
| 07:55.20 | MrApathyCream | playingLoop() line 4435 |
| 07:55.22 | MrApathyCream | startPlaying(BzfDisplay * 0x071d0, SceneRenderer & {...}, ResourceDatabase & {...}, StartupInfo * 0x00546af8 startupInfo) line 5449 |
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| 07:56.14 | WinkyGuy | Hey, anybody about? |
| 07:56.24 | vogon | WinkyGuy: nope. |
| 07:56.28 | vogon | WinkyGuy: not even me. |
| 07:56.29 | MrApathyCream | yup: reporting bad guy? |
| 07:56.33 | BZFlag | back. figured out what the cause is? |
| 07:56.39 | WinkyGuy | yep |
| 07:56.43 | MrApathyCream | yes, see above |
| 07:56.50 | BZFlag | yean but why? |
| 07:57.07 | MrApathyCream | is it possible that firing info has an unknown weapon type? |
| 07:57.24 | MrApathyCream | sendBeginShot from client just packs a FiringInfo |
| 07:58.01 | BZFlag | it's a shot update I think. |
| 07:59.19 | MrApathyCream | where do the number of segments get calculated? |
| 07:59.23 | MrApathyCream | that's the problem |
| 08:01.34 | MrApathyCream | Easy enough to patch |
| 08:02.55 | hardwire | hmmmm |
| 08:02.59 | hardwire | it be my bedtime! |
| 08:03.07 | MrApathyCream | anyone see the bad guy? what server now? |
| 08:03.25 | WinkyGuy | He was destroying turkey about ten minutes ago |
| 08:03.31 | MrApathyCream | gone now |
| 08:03.34 | WinkyGuy | He was "system god" |
| 08:12.02 | BZFlag | hmm. still not sure I know what caused it. |
| 08:12.11 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 08:12.13 | BZFlag | I really need network record/playback. |
| 08:12.42 | MrApathyCream | where do numsegments get calculated? |
| 08:12.58 | BZFlag | makesegments? |
| 08:13.26 | MrApathyCream | is that one firing person's client, or on receiving person's client? |
| 08:13.32 | MrApathyCream | s/one/on/ |
| 08:13.41 | BZFlag | could it be as simple as doing a shot update for a shot that is dead? |
| 08:13.44 | vogon | receiving, I think. |
| 08:14.23 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: maybe |
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| 08:15.05 | WinkyGuy | Hey, swine, seen him again? |
| 08:15.24 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: this was a segmentedshotstrategy tho, they don't update, right? |
| 08:15.49 | MrApathyCream | (dynamically) |
| 08:16.30 | swine | I think I got his ip, but I'm not sure |
| 08:16.45 | MrApathyCream | Perhaps called MsgGMUpdate on a SegmentedShot? |
| 08:18.41 | BZFlag | perhaps. |
| 08:22.28 | hardwire | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 08:22.32 | hardwire | fully textured now |
| 08:22.45 | hardwire | I was missing the left side earlier |
| 08:25.20 | MrApathyCream | what if the lifetime of the bullet as spec'ed by the firinginfo coming across wire was 0 |
| 08:26.27 | WinkyGuy | I missed the earlier conversation, but did someone already try to run with a client built with the debugger turned on? |
| 08:26.35 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 08:26.47 | MrApathyCream | stacktrace is listed above |
| 08:26.58 | WinkyGuy | OK, it *seemed* obvious -- because it was. |
| 08:27.34 | MrApathyCream | ah, you joined right after that, hold on |
| 08:28.12 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream> AList::voidGet(int -1) line 237 + 40 bytes |
| 08:28.12 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream> ShotPathSegments::operator[](int -1) line 98 + 41 bytes |
| 08:28.12 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream> SegmentedShotStrategy::update(float 0.0139336) line 367 + 18 bytes |
| 08:28.12 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream> ShotPath::updateShot(float 0.0139336) line 195 + 30 bytes |
| 08:28.12 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream> RemoteShotPath::update(float 0.0139336) line 278 |
| 08:28.14 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream> RemotePlayer::updateShots(float 0.0139336) line 110 |
| 08:28.16 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream> playingLoop() line 4435 |
| 08:28.19 | MrApathyCream | <MrApathyCream> startPlaying(BzfDisplay * 0x071d0, SceneRenderer & {...}, ResourceDatabase & {...}, StartupInfo * 0x00546af8 startupInfo) line 5449 |
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| 08:32.15 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: |
| 08:32.18 | MrApathyCream | try this on: |
| 08:32.19 | MrApathyCream | voidServerLink::sendBeginShot(const FiringInfo& info) |
| 08:32.20 | MrApathyCream | { |
| 08:32.20 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.20 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.20 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.21 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.23 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.25 | MrApathyCream | } |
| 08:32.27 | MrApathyCream | (set lifetime to 0 |
| 08:34.11 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: This is definitely the problem!!!! |
| 08:38.08 | MrApathyCream | makeSegments doesn't make any if timeLeft (0) is < epsilon |
| 08:38.27 | MrApathyCream | maybe do: while ((timeLeft > Epsilon) && (segments.getLength() == 0)) { |
| 08:42.34 | BZFlag | better to ignore any MsgShotBegin with invalid info. |
| 08:42.47 | BZFlag | got one you think will kill me? try on one? |
| 08:42.48 | MrApathyCream | yes but was is invalid? |
| 08:42.54 | MrApathyCream | yes i can kill you;) |
| 08:42.59 | MrApathyCream | go to one.bzflag? |
| 08:43.00 | BZFlag | k. one? |
| 08:45.07 | MrApathyCream | waiting |
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| 09:00.35 | MrApathyCream | anyone want to pull latest cvs and see if i can crash u? |
| 09:00.51 | MrApathyCream | well, first lemme try to crash your client with out the patch |
| 09:00.59 | MrApathyCream | anyone, Buehler? |
| 09:01.08 | vogon | it's "Bueller." |
| 09:01.13 | vogon | and my current tree is broken. |
| 09:01.16 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 09:01.19 | vogon | (audio thread refuses to die.) |
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| 09:22.19 | bomber | chestal look on ducati |
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| 09:24.05 | ak|ra | moin |
| 09:24.11 | scanline | ~isplart |
| 09:25.19 | scanline | ~cheeselart |
| 09:25.26 | scanline | ~cheeselart |
| 09:32.35 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: positive test |
| 09:32.44 | MrApathyCream | clients crash before fix, don't crash after |
| 09:33.03 | MrApathyCream | (of course, can't guarantee that my evilness is same as 'system god's evilness) |
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| 09:37.37 | MrApathyCream | well it's passed my bedtime |
| 09:37.45 | MrApathyCream | ciao |
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| 10:25.29 | strayer | hi :) |
| 10:31.46 | strayer | anyone alive? |
| 10:37.57 | ak|ra | me |
| 10:37.58 | ak|ra | buh |
| 10:38.48 | strayer | hui... :) |
| 10:38.57 | strayer | wanna play a minute ..or 2? |
| 10:41.51 | strayer | ak|ra: hey...old warhorse...Ur answer? |
| 10:42.25 | ak|ra | aeh |
| 10:42.26 | ak|ra | nope |
| 10:42.27 | ak|ra | sorry |
| 10:42.33 | ak|ra | doing stuff |
| 10:42.39 | ak|ra | and the donkey is running for 007 |
| 10:42.41 | ak|ra | :) |
| 10:42.47 | strayer | hehe |
| 10:43.26 | strayer | U can send it to me via mail when U finished ;p |
| 10:43.31 | ak|ra | lol |
| 10:44.25 | strayer | oh...someone on ducati...hehe...i am lucky :) |
| 11:43.25 | strayer | @all: is it allowed to play a league match for a team when the player does not belong to it? |
| 11:44.09 | strayer | ok...maybe not the right place to ask... |
| 11:51.29 | ak|ra | i dont think so :) |
| 11:51.30 | ak|ra | why? |
| 11:51.38 | ak|ra | you could play an unofficial match though |
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| 12:07.14 | ak|ra | http://www.kornelius.de/arth/ :) |
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| 13:03.25 | strayer | ak|ra: Ur URL > is this tha base of Ur knowledge? |
| 13:05.47 | ak|ra | nope |
| 13:05.59 | ak|ra | just cleaning up my bookmarks |
| 13:07.08 | strayer | i never have to clean them....i install my Windows new every 2-6months... :) |
| 13:36.08 | strayer | prodan? |
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| 13:44.06 | Santa | tooooooooo early |
| 13:56.52 | vogon | tooooooooooooooooooo many 'o's. |
| 13:57.26 | Santa | perhaps |
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| 14:25.26 | JAH | bzflag works better than coffee in the mornings |
| 14:30.12 | Chestal | and it's healthier |
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| 15:11.23 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 15:11.30 | bomber | muhahaa |
| 15:11.37 | rooter | :) |
| 15:11.42 | bomber | much work? |
| 15:11.54 | rooter | supposidly |
| 15:12.16 | rooter | i'm waiting for Oracle to finish installing |
| 15:12.34 | rooter | u? |
| 15:13.45 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 15:14.05 | vogon | hm. |
| 15:14.11 | vogon | ibot: lart Santa |
| 15:14.54 | rooter | ducati is quiet today |
| 15:21.37 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 15:31.42 | hardwire | *yawn* |
| 15:31.51 | Santa | 'mornin |
| 15:33.13 | hardwire | so |
| 15:33.18 | hardwire | my roomates have dogs right |
| 15:33.38 | hardwire | and.. I work from home |
| 15:33.44 | hardwire | and they leave early for their jobs |
| 15:34.10 | hardwire | the primary zone for mischief is 30 minutes after roomate takeoff |
| 15:34.36 | hardwire | I become a cat person more and more each day |
| 15:41.18 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 15:41.27 | Chestal | ~ducatictf |
| 15:42.07 | bomber | ibot ~ducatictf |
| 15:42.08 | | bomber: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 15:42.19 | bomber | yes ibot |
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| 15:42.27 | bomber | nhi tea |
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| 15:52.10 | ak|ra | ibot: ducati |
| 15:52.38 | ak|ra | ibot: ducatictf |
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| 15:59.07 | Santa | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 16:03.51 | Santa | hardwire: wheres the latest bugtank? |
| 16:04.49 | Chestal | MAC: hmm, just updated cvs, I think there's a bug, doign a complete recompile right now |
| 16:05.27 | [TeA]- | ibot ducatictf |
| 16:06.44 | Chestal | yes, rico is broken |
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| 16:09.01 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:09.33 | akira2 | no it isnt |
| 16:09.39 | ak|ra | yes it is |
| 16:09.49 | akira2 | no it isnt |
| 16:10.09 | ak|ra | :) so .. go offline old friend |
| 16:10.14 | akira2 | ok |
| 16:11.40 | hardwire | Santa: in my pocket? |
| 16:11.49 | hardwire | I shrunk him down a little and increaded the uv map exposure |
| 16:11.51 | hardwire | looks neat |
| 16:12.07 | hardwire | working on making a better export script ATM.. |
| 16:13.19 | Patlabor221 | what is blenders native format? |
| 16:13.35 | hardwire | .blend |
| 16:13.58 | hardwire | blender uses python heavily for quite a few things |
| 16:13.58 | Patlabor221 | but it does OBJ too? |
| 16:14.00 | hardwire | yes |
| 16:14.02 | hardwire | and vrml |
| 16:14.29 | Santa | http://engrish.com/signs/source/bowling.html |
| 16:14.36 | JAH | the blender UI confuses me :( |
| 16:14.48 | Patlabor221 | ohh they redid the site |
| 16:14.49 | hardwire | you get used to it |
| 16:14.59 | hardwire | once you do you realize its pretyty handy |
| 16:18.55 | ak|ra | is a stats.bzflag.org man here? |
| 16:19.00 | ak|ra | i lost my pw ... |
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| 16:28.17 | ak|ra | bzdoug: hey |
| 16:28.28 | ak|ra | bzdoug: i forgot my pw on stats.bzflag.org |
| 16:28.39 | ak|ra | how to get a new one or reset the old? |
| 16:30.16 | Santa | ak|ra: you're gonna have to talk to jzaun about that |
| 16:30.37 | ak|ra | ok, proton? |
| 16:31.22 | ak|ra | and right, on the page "jzaun and noodle*" .. dont know why my brain thought bzdoug |
| 16:31.22 | ak|ra | mhh |
| 16:34.25 | JAH | are there any stress/performance test that can be run on bzflag to establish a benchmark? |
| 16:36.30 | Patlabor221 | any map made by spif or bzdoug. |
| 16:37.02 | hardwire | in glColor4f |
| 16:37.06 | hardwire | whats the range on the alpha |
| 16:37.15 | JAH | 0-1? |
| 16:37.25 | hardwire | the colros are 0-255 |
| 16:37.28 | hardwire | colors |
| 16:37.45 | hardwire | 0-1 has crossed my mind :) |
| 16:38.10 | hardwire | bah |
| 16:38.11 | hardwire | nm |
| 16:38.16 | hardwire | the colors are not 0-1 |
| 16:38.17 | hardwire | heh |
| 16:41.15 | hardwire | yay |
| 16:41.19 | hardwire | the bug has a visor now |
| 16:41.30 | hardwire | I suppose I need to enable alpha on the model |
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| 16:43.48 | hardwire | ok.. so bzflag leaving bzflag often kills my system |
| 16:44.00 | bzdoug | mebbe |
| 16:44.04 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 16:44.11 | Sniper50 | HI |
| 16:44.17 | bzdoug | IH! |
| 16:44.36 | Sniper50 | :-) |
| 16:44.37 | ak|ra | hi sniper |
| 16:44.43 | Sniper50 | Hola Mate |
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| 16:46.58 | Sniper50 | Anybody who wants some lag, i have a lots of it! Anyone intrested contact me! ;) |
| 16:47.15 | bzdoug | no thanks |
| 16:47.26 | Sniper50 | Heey its for free! |
| 16:47.51 | hardwire | lag goes well with cerial |
| 16:47.57 | hardwire | frosted lag |
| 16:48.02 | Sniper50 | he |
| 16:48.22 | JAH | <=-S-=> You're lagged 584secs to yourself. cool, huh? |
| 16:48.54 | bzdoug | no, that means something is terribly wrong |
| 16:49.50 | Sniper50 | At the beginning i didnt lag, so i didnt care. Later on i started to lag , that i didnt like. Now i lag like he**, and i hate it alot! Its like they say it was better in the old times! ;) |
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| 16:50.06 | bzdoug | haha |
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| 16:50.20 | bzdoug | dwerk |
| 16:50.51 | bzdoug | hum |
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| 16:55.07 | hardwire | gah |
| 16:55.17 | hardwire | no matter what I do I an't make parts of the bug purposefully transparent |
| 16:55.19 | hardwire | I can color em! |
| 16:56.09 | Santa | need to turn on blending? |
| 16:56.14 | hardwire | naw |
| 16:56.22 | hardwire | the transporters/pz people are transparent |
| 16:57.15 | Santa | TankSceneNode:119 |
| 16:57.23 | hardwire | thats what I thought |
| 16:58.17 | hardwire | but things are alphad |
| 16:58.22 | hardwire | like the transporters |
| 16:58.23 | hardwire | :( |
| 16:58.46 | hardwire | and the alpha variable kicks in when pz is in use |
| 16:58.47 | Patlabor221 | you may also have issues if transperant parts of the bug overlap |
| 16:58.53 | hardwire | no |
| 16:58.54 | Patlabor221 | since the bug isn't depth sorted |
| 16:59.02 | hardwire | yeh.. they are totally seperated |
| 16:59.44 | hardwire | EighthDimSceneNode.cxx :) |
| 16:59.54 | Santa | hardwire: blending is only turned on when its used |
| 17:00.00 | hardwire | hmm |
| 17:00.16 | hardwire | you mean by the prefs |
| 17:00.20 | hardwire | or during gl redraws? |
| 17:00.27 | Patlabor221 | by the gl state machine |
| 17:00.32 | Santa | inside the scene graph it tracks whether something is blended |
| 17:00.36 | Patlabor221 | bz only turns on the state stuff you use |
| 17:00.40 | Santa | take a look at OpenGLGState |
| 17:00.41 | hardwire | ok |
| 17:01.09 | hardwire | futz |
| 17:01.17 | hardwire | well.. I don't wanna change the code that heavily |
| 17:01.22 | Santa | its not really that bad |
| 17:01.27 | hardwire | but |
| 17:01.37 | Santa | in TankSceneNode just always set blending instead of sometimes |
| 17:01.38 | hardwire | its not really a good thing to change TankSceneNode |
| 17:01.46 | Santa | why not? |
| 17:01.47 | hardwire | just so one of the parts is transparent |
| 17:01.55 | hardwire | cause then it becomes hard to distribute :) |
| 17:02.06 | Santa | hardwire: thats what diffs are for |
| 17:02.14 | hardwire | yeh |
| 17:02.40 | Santa | welcome back to reality, scanline |
| 17:02.42 | hardwire | now to learn how to turn them on.. then resume previous state |
| 17:02.47 | scanline | reality? yay! |
| 17:03.20 | Santa | scanline: it looks like its mostly doing subdivision correctly? |
| 17:03.39 | scanline | mmm sorta |
| 17:04.19 | scanline | it will usually fail an assertion when it has to merge nodes though |
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| 17:06.14 | Santa | yeah i noticed that |
| 17:06.21 | *** part/#bzflag Sniper50 (~derwese@c-448770d5.09-28-6c756e1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:06.29 | scanline | gettin close to 10000 lines of code though :) |
| 17:06.53 | hardwire | yeash |
| 17:09.55 | cell | someone here uses java? |
| 17:10.02 | Santa | oof java |
| 17:11.35 | scanline | does drinking it count? |
| 17:11.48 | hardwire | blah |
| 17:12.15 | Santa | scanline: managed to keep the roe down the entire night? |
| 17:12.22 | scanline | Santa: hehe, yep |
| 17:12.27 | Santa | =) |
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| 17:13.01 | hardwire | hey |
| 17:13.03 | hardwire | heh |
| 17:13.07 | hardwire | maybe if I turn on backface culling |
| 17:13.12 | hardwire | transparency will work :) |
| 17:13.30 | Santa | turn on blending! blending i tell you |
| 17:13.32 | cell | yes and disable z writes |
| 17:13.37 | hardwire | Santa: I did! |
| 17:13.40 | hardwire | I did! |
| 17:13.47 | hardwire | right down to the glBlend crap |
| 17:14.00 | Santa | thats not the way to turn on blending to draw the tank :P |
| 17:14.01 | hardwire | how would you do it? |
| 17:14.07 | ak|ra | hardwire: but order things depth if you disable z :) |
| 17:14.10 | scanline | Are you drawing your polygons right down to the glVertex crap? :) |
| 17:14.12 | Santa | you need to pull the blending enable conditional out in the TankSceneNode |
| 17:14.21 | hardwire | scanline: yeh.. |
| 17:14.27 | hardwire | how else? |
| 17:14.42 | Santa | the way bzflag draws its stuff is that it traverses a scene graph - but you never actually have to write the gl state stuff |
| 17:14.53 | Santa | because its all wrapped in OpenGLGState |
| 17:15.00 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.01 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.01 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.01 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.01 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.01 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.04 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.06 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.08 | hardwire | .. |
| 17:15.12 | hardwire | should be what? |
| 17:15.27 | Santa | take the 2 lines inside the if and get rid of everything else |
| 17:15.41 | Santa | or if you care more about portability |
| 17:15.47 | Santa | just get rid of the && transparent |
| 17:16.02 | hardwire | here is the deal tho |
| 17:16.10 | hardwire | why enable blending on all things tank related? |
| 17:16.19 | hardwire | I just wanna enable blending on the turret model |
| 17:16.28 | Santa | why not? |
| 17:16.34 | hardwire | speed? |
| 17:16.35 | Santa | the tank is a sub-node of the GState |
| 17:16.53 | Santa | and the individual model pieces don't really matter |
| 17:17.16 | hardwire | but it groks thru them.. sets the color I want in the model files.. it should be able to grok extra gl goodness |
| 17:17.23 | hardwire | if you say no I will slap you |
| 17:18.55 | hardwire | anyhoot |
| 17:18.58 | hardwire | that had the desired effect |
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| 17:21.07 | Noodleman | ~seen bzdoug |
| 17:21.13 | | bzdoug is currently on #bzflag (56m 26s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 30m 22s |
| 17:21.16 | *** part/#bzflag cell (alton@pD9E505A0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:21.28 | Santa | Noodleman: ak|ra lost his s.b.o password - can you help him with that? |
| 17:21.57 | Noodleman | yeah, let's see... |
| 17:22.11 | Santa | w00t |
| 17:22.16 | Santa | the girl of my dreams is back in town |
| 17:22.23 | ak|ra | ah, hello Noodleman |
| 17:22.23 | hardwire | Santa gets licked |
| 17:22.27 | ak|ra | thanx santi |
| 17:23.11 | Patlabor221 | Delta Burke is in town? |
| 17:23.17 | Santa | Patlabor221: bah |
| 17:23.27 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 17:23.32 | Noodleman | jzaun changed the password, and didn't tell me :-( |
| 17:23.39 | Noodleman | sirry ak|ra |
| 17:23.42 | Noodleman | sorry* |
| 17:24.17 | ak|ra | Noodleman: ok, but could you be so kind to tell jzaun the prob? |
| 17:24.58 | Noodleman | you can email him, it's jzaun@jzaun.com |
| 17:25.46 | ak|ra | ok, thanx |
| 17:29.34 | hardwire | okay |
| 17:29.38 | hardwire | thats about as much as I wanna play for now |
| 17:29.48 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/bzflag-1.7g0-bugmodel.patch.gz |
| 17:29.53 | hardwire | anybody feel like testing that out? |
| 17:31.30 | Noodleman | sure, i'll test it out |
| 17:31.43 | hardwire | bonk yer shins |
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| 17:34.01 | Noodleman | ok, compiling... |
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| 17:35.03 | hardwire | heh |
| 17:35.10 | hardwire | the model looks very.. spidery in tiny mode |
| 17:35.17 | Noodleman | hehe |
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| 17:37.28 | ak|ra | re |
| 17:38.40 | Noodleman | ok, ow i'll test it |
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| 17:43.55 | Noodleman | hardwire: the bugs are quite hard to hit |
| 17:44.52 | hardwire | same bounding box |
| 17:45.07 | Noodleman | huh, maybe it's just more laggy than usual |
| 17:45.12 | hardwire | don't blame me for your bad eyesight :) |
| 17:45.17 | Noodleman | let me try another server |
| 17:45.20 | Noodleman | hehe :-) |
| 17:45.28 | hardwire | I have been hitting lots of people just fine.. after I shoot them 5 times :) |
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| 17:47.03 | anaconda | hi |
| 17:50.02 | hardwire | high above the game |
| 17:50.03 | hardwire | I witness a laser flood fill |
| 17:50.16 | scanline | high above the game? |
| 17:50.57 | Santa | hmm |
| 17:51.06 | hardwire | yeh |
| 17:51.09 | hardwire | some worlds are fun |
| 17:51.14 | Santa | decks! |
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| 17:51.32 | hardwire | the one currently on noodlesomethign |
| 17:51.47 | Noodleman | yeah, that's pretty good, hardwire :-) |
| 17:51.48 | hardwire | is there a world pilferrer? |
| 17:52.25 | hardwire | or.. where is a good link to worlds to play... I have only found some pretty stinky sites |
| 17:52.27 | Noodleman | could you add 4 more legs to it, so it'd be a spider? |
| 17:52.35 | hardwire | Noodleman: np.. |
| 17:52.42 | hardwire | but.. then its not a water skimmer |
| 17:52.48 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 17:52.59 | hardwire | do you like the 50% transparent visor on him? |
| 17:53.19 | Noodleman | or, add two legs that are held forward |
| 17:53.37 | Noodleman | i dn't know what the visor is for |
| 17:53.52 | Noodleman | i didn't notice it |
| 17:54.01 | hardwire | heh |
| 17:54.04 | Noodleman | i didn't read your question right :-) |
| 17:54.06 | hardwire | its sneaky |
| 17:54.26 | hardwire | your answer was not in the form of a question |
| 17:54.37 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 17:54.41 | hardwire | the bug has shades on :) |
| 17:54.55 | Noodleman | but i thought you said "would you like a 50% trasparent visor?" |
| 17:55.07 | hardwire | for $99.99 |
| 17:55.12 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 17:55.55 | Noodleman | maybe you could make an airplane model for use with the flight simulator patch :-) |
| 17:56.36 | bzdoug | scanline: how hard would it be to vary/stop the flying tank? |
| 17:57.04 | bzdoug | :) |
| 17:57.08 | Noodleman | hey doug |
| 17:57.17 | bzdoug | greetings |
| 17:57.20 | hardwire | can bullets bounce down? |
| 17:57.32 | Noodleman | wanna go have some fun with the flight simulator patch? |
| 17:57.33 | bzdoug | hardwire: I dont think so |
| 17:58.01 | bzdoug | Noodleman: not right now, taking a break from breathing 10% bleach |
| 17:58.01 | hardwire | that would be neat |
| 17:58.07 | Noodleman | yikes |
| 17:58.11 | Noodleman | that's no fun |
| 17:58.22 | bzdoug | scrubbing ceilings |
| 17:58.25 | hardwire | waterdecks |
| 17:58.27 | scanline | bzdoug: suppose you could hook up the tab button or something as a throttle |
| 17:58.32 | hardwire | thats what I am playing in |
| 17:58.37 | bzdoug | scanline: hmm |
| 17:58.47 | scanline | bzdoug: if you could get user input into that function, it would be easy to vary the speed |
| 17:59.19 | Noodleman | it would be great to have a break, i'm always getting stuck to the wall |
| 17:59.20 | scanline | bzdoug: look at src/bzflag/LocalPlayer.cxx line 275 |
| 17:59.24 | bzdoug | k |
| 17:59.26 | Noodleman | brake* sorry |
| 17:59.27 | scanline | bzdoug: you'd just need to be able to adjust TankSpeed |
| 17:59.44 | bzdoug | how would I do that |
| 18:00.05 | scanline | with a spanner |
| 18:00.09 | bzdoug | ah |
| 18:00.42 | bzdoug | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.45 | Santa | how tough is it to figure out? its a damned equation |
| 18:01.58 | bzdoug | cosf? |
| 18:02.05 | bzdoug | dt? |
| 18:02.12 | Santa | i give you three guesses about what cosf does, the first two don't count |
| 18:02.41 | Santa | and if you don't understand 'dt' you don't deserve to be here |
| 18:02.42 | bzdoug | cost of slimy floors? |
| 18:03.03 | bzdoug | sussudio :) |
| 18:03.30 | Patlabor221 | realy do you not even pay atention in school? |
| 18:03.37 | sussudio | doug goes to school? |
| 18:03.37 | bzdoug | I know all of it, but how would I get the tab key setup to do something |
| 18:03.45 | Patlabor221 | so he says |
| 18:03.53 | bzdoug | only in the soviet |
| 18:03.57 | Santa | sussudio: "home schooled" |
| 18:04.07 | bzdoug | Santa: wrong |
| 18:04.22 | Patlabor221 | well where ever you go, do they tech you math? |
| 18:04.23 | bzdoug | hom shcold |
| 18:04.32 | Patlabor221 | short bus? |
| 18:04.37 | bzdoug | yah |
| 18:04.48 | Noodleman | hey, i don't know what cosf or dt mean either |
| 18:04.48 | Patlabor221 | mama don't know trig? |
| 18:04.53 | sussudio | hmm americans come here to grow pot :-| |
| 18:05.26 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:06.21 | sussudio | cannabis cooking oil hmm |
| 18:06.28 | Noodleman | weird |
| 18:07.29 | hardwire | for canibals? |
| 18:07.51 | bzdoug | Noodleman: I know sussudio is wierd, nothing new |
| 18:07.55 | Santa | hrm |
| 18:08.11 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: that sure was silly |
| 18:09.00 | scanline | Santa: will bzflag.net come back up on your parents' bandwidth after you move? |
| 18:09.09 | Santa | scanline: yeah |
| 18:09.13 | Santa | i'll DMZ the machine |
| 18:09.18 | bzdoug | heh |
| 18:09.50 | bzdoug | heh |
| 18:10.33 | Patlabor221 | bet he dosn't even know what a navi is |
| 18:10.47 | Patlabor221 | "doug had no mail" |
| 18:10.48 | bzdoug | heh |
| 18:10.53 | Santa | hehehe |
| 18:10.56 | Santa | hello, navi. |
| 18:10.57 | Noodleman | bzdoug: are you down to a legal level of .5% blood chlorine level yet? |
| 18:11.04 | bzdoug | almost |
| 18:11.21 | sussudio | hmm needs a refill |
| 18:11.41 | bzdoug | hmm, does velocity flag effect flying tanks too? |
| 18:12.26 | scanline | hehe |
| 18:13.01 | Noodleman | bzdoug: yes, it does |
| 18:13.17 | bzdoug | hmmm, we could setup the "Airport" map with a large world size..... and attack the base |
| 18:13.20 | bzdoug | k |
| 18:13.27 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:13.36 | hardwire | can I add guided squigle rockets? |
| 18:13.48 | scanline | bzdoug: actually, I don't think the velocity flag affects flying tanks.. the velocity flag code was in some stuff I removed :) |
| 18:13.50 | bzdoug | hardwire: what? |
| 18:13.56 | bzdoug | scanline: oh |
| 18:13.58 | scanline | wouldn't be hard to put back in though |
| 18:14.08 | hardwire | guided squiggle rockets.. guided rockets that don't always hit their mark |
| 18:14.10 | bzdoug | sure |
| 18:14.15 | bzdoug | hardwire: hmm |
| 18:14.15 | hardwire | also wanted to add hopper rockets |
| 18:14.16 | Noodleman | i seem to go faster with the velocity flag |
| 18:14.17 | scanline | I mean, if you want to know exactly what I did you can just read the patch, it's pretty short |
| 18:14.26 | bzdoug | scanline: k |
| 18:14.29 | sussudio | http://bzflag.noodleroni.com/ |
| 18:14.29 | sussudio | Test Page |
| 18:14.29 | sussudio | This page is used to test the proper operation of the Apache Web server after it has been installed. If you can read this page, it means that the Apache Web server installed at this site is working properly. |
| 18:14.32 | sussudio | :-P |
| 18:14.39 | Santa | hardwire: feel free to write anything - you'll have to ask tim if he'd accept that flag - on first guess i'd say he would anser 'no' |
| 18:15.01 | hardwire | well.. |
| 18:15.06 | hardwire | it would be hard to add a new flag |
| 18:15.12 | hardwire | and get it accepted |
| 18:15.16 | bzdoug | but your welcome to make your own bzflag version, as long as it dont connect to "real" servers |
| 18:15.49 | Patlabor221 | did Tim say you could do that binary only distro? |
| 18:15.52 | Noodleman | well, bzflag.noodleroni.com doesn't have a <virtualhost> assigned to it |
| 18:16.04 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 18:16.05 | Noodleman | vote.noodleroni.com and www.noodleroni.com do |
| 18:16.09 | JAH | i think there needs to be a "drug" flag .. similar to fish-eye, but add all kinds of trippy things |
| 18:16.10 | bzdoug | bobo.noodleroni.com? |
| 18:17.21 | sussudio | can i put a world on noodleroni without it being up for download? |
| 18:17.25 | bzdoug | how about a teleporter that can force the client to reconnect to another server? |
| 18:17.49 | hardwire | hah! |
| 18:17.54 | Noodleman | bzdoug: are you done being stoned on bleach? :-P |
| 18:18.19 | bzdoug | nooo |
| 18:19.07 | Noodleman | are you haaaaaaaappyyyyyy hyuk hyuk? |
| 18:19.21 | bzdoug | lol |
| 18:19.39 | bzdoug | const float TeleportTime = 1.0f |
| 18:19.44 | bzdoug | whats that? |
| 18:19.58 | hardwire | 1.0f |
| 18:20.01 | hardwire | whats it look like? |
| 18:20.22 | bzdoug | so if I change that to 50, it would take 50 seconds to teleport? |
| 18:20.34 | vogon | yes. |
| 18:20.38 | hardwire | hmm.. twould be cool to have a followed missle |
| 18:20.42 | hardwire | missile |
| 18:20.42 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:20.49 | bzdoug | indeed |
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| 18:21.02 | hardwire | give it velocity and watch somebody leave their tank just to control it |
| 18:21.10 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 18:21.15 | hardwire | that would be a fun weapon for spin jumps |
| 18:21.23 | hardwire | spin.. jump.. leap out of body! |
| 18:21.32 | bzdoug | hah |
| 18:21.56 | sussudio | give someone A, WA and V and call it the barf flag :-| |
| 18:22.12 | hardwire | WA? |
| 18:22.14 | hardwire | A? |
| 18:22.15 | hardwire | V? |
| 18:22.16 | sussudio | wide angle |
| 18:22.21 | Santa | WAVA |
| 18:22.21 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:22.25 | sussudio | angular velocity |
| 18:22.26 | hardwire | WAVAles |
| 18:22.27 | bzdoug | WAVA! |
| 18:22.28 | sussudio | velocity |
| 18:22.37 | bzdoug | new flag |
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| 18:22.53 | bzdoug | const float GMissileAng = M_PI / 5.0f |
| 18:22.56 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 18:23.08 | bzdoug | const float GMissileAng = M_PI / 1.0f; |
| 18:23.17 | Santa | thats useful |
| 18:23.34 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:23.39 | bzdoug | yup |
| 18:23.40 | hardwire | does that even hit the cpu? |
| 18:23.45 | bzdoug | lol |
| 18:23.50 | Santa | depends on the compiler |
| 18:24.18 | Patlabor221 | unless you are a realy hot chick |
| 18:24.22 | hardwire | only one problem.. custom colors and alphas and such |
| 18:24.30 | hardwire | Patlabor221: I am an extremely hot chick.. |
| 18:24.33 | Patlabor221 | I got a plan for that |
| 18:24.34 | Santa | scanline: hmm, i'm trying to decide if we want to do -everything- with procecural surfaces or have some polygonal models |
| 18:24.57 | Patlabor221 | even make them 'splode like normal |
| 18:25.27 | hardwire | that would be fun to watch.. |
| 18:25.40 | Santa | per face is icky |
| 18:25.41 | Patlabor221 | i've seen it'it's not bad |
| 18:25.49 | Patlabor221 | we used to do it in software renderers |
| 18:25.56 | Patlabor221 | cap, you ca precomput a lot of stuff |
| 18:25.59 | Santa | better to model it in pieces then use a physics simulation to compute where pieces go |
| 18:26.04 | hardwire | I just wanna make it wiggle now |
| 18:26.21 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/cam.jpg |
| 18:26.37 | Santa | jetstream is going to be such a cpu sucker |
| 18:27.09 | Patlabor221 | I could make it wiglle if I went a bit more, and the bug was defined as a MD3 model |
| 18:27.43 | hardwire | are there any internal counters? |
| 18:27.45 | hardwire | like frame count.. |
| 18:27.47 | hardwire | or anything like that |
| 18:27.53 | hardwire | globalfied? |
| 18:28.01 | Santa | you can get the current time easily |
| 18:28.18 | hardwire | why must you be so complicated! |
| 18:28.29 | Patlabor221 | I realy should hook up a CLGETime in there |
| 18:28.42 | Patlabor221 | and basing anims on frames is BAD |
| 18:28.54 | Santa | Patlabor221: we've already got a timer :P |
| 18:29.12 | scanline | Santa: what would be the advantage of polygon models? |
| 18:29.23 | Patlabor221 | speeeeeeeeeedddd |
| 18:29.30 | scanline | bah.. speed is for ninnies |
| 18:29.32 | Santa | scanline: no reason to subdivide if we have flat surfaces |
| 18:29.42 | scanline | Santa: where would we have flat surfaces? |
| 18:29.51 | Santa | scanline: ships? |
| 18:30.06 | scanline | mmm.... |
| 18:30.08 | scanline | flat ships? |
| 18:30.26 | *** part/#bzflag bomber (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 18:30.28 | Santa | scanline: not everything is curved you know |
| 18:30.42 | scanline | yeah... but Surface won't just be for curves |
| 18:30.56 | scanline | was also planning on having it coordinate lighting and texturing |
| 18:31.19 | Santa | hmm |
| 18:31.20 | scanline | if we do want to have flat surfaces I'd recommend making a SurfaceGenerator for them |
| 18:32.29 | scanline | I still don't see why a ship would need flat surfaces... wings, fuselage, little sticking-out-doohickeys... none of which are flat |
| 18:33.17 | scanline | even though you won't want to generate triangles for all that detail, Surface will be able to use that extra detail in the lightmaps |
| 18:34.17 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E95D74.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:34.34 | Santa | troo |
| 18:35.15 | scanline | I have this vision of a typical indoor scene... a corridor with walls curved outward, some pipes along the cieling, support beams every so often, and a mostly flat floor and cieling |
| 18:35.49 | Santa | hmmmmm |
| 18:35.55 | scanline | even the floor and cieling would benefit by being surfaces, since the pattern of the metal or tiles can be precomputed into the lightmaps |
| 18:38.27 | scanline | now in the case of the floor and cieling, the SurfaceGenerator's variance function will be returning a small number, probably smaller than the threshold set for generating geometry. So it will avoid computing the rest of the priority function, and refrain from subdividing. You end up with just a couple triangles in a triangle strip in a display list, with the only calculation overhead being evaluating that priority function that has almo |
| 18:38.27 | scanline | etely simplified away |
| 18:39.18 | bzdoug | d:\documents and settings\doug\desktop\bzflag\bzflag\src\bzflag\localplayer.cxx(274) : warning C4244: '+=' : conversion from 'double' to 'float', possible loss of data |
| 18:39.25 | hardwire | if I could ever get around to asking it |
| 18:39.41 | Patlabor221 | ohh no dooug it's not gonna work now |
| 18:39.44 | Patlabor221 | you broke it |
| 18:39.58 | scanline | Shouldn't that be LocalPlayer.cxx rather than localplayer.cxx? |
| 18:40.14 | scanline | you and your silly non-case-sensitive filesystems... |
| 18:40.19 | hardwire | trying to define a modulated position for say a 20 series walking animation.. based off of the current x y z and angle |
| 18:40.35 | bzdoug | it works |
| 18:41.01 | Patlabor221 | hence why it says "warning" and not error |
| 18:41.14 | scanline | hardwire: hmm.. walking would be tough |
| 18:41.19 | Patlabor221 | you put a floating point number in without an f at the end |
| 18:41.31 | hardwire | scanline: the animation isn't |
| 18:41.37 | bzdoug | I did! |
| 18:41.40 | bzdoug | I put an f |
| 18:41.48 | scanline | hardwire: well, animating the walk correctly when they're both moving and turning would be tough, wouldn't it? |
| 18:41.48 | Patlabor221 | not if you got that warning |
| 18:41.49 | bzdoug | I removed the f and I am trying again |
| 18:42.00 | hardwire | scanline: no.. |
| 18:42.02 | hardwire | I guess not.. |
| 18:42.07 | scanline | oh, ok |
| 18:42.10 | hardwire | knowing where I am x and y.. |
| 18:42.13 | hardwire | err rather |
| 18:42.25 | bzdoug | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.30 | hardwire | having a stored delta x and y per left and right legs |
| 18:42.45 | hardwire | and a stored delta for rotation.. would help define how its supposed to be animated |
| 18:42.50 | scanline | Santa: just think, with Surface and all the OpenGL abuses we'll be keeping both CPU and GPU occupied |
| 18:43.00 | hardwire | I could just cruise thru a circular array of walking frames that way |
| 18:43.06 | hardwire | don't you think? |
| 18:43.14 | Santa | scanline: yeah - i'm just afraid there will be nothing left for the physics engine |
| 18:43.48 | Santa | i guess with all the stuff we're doing its not really going to rull full tilt on either of our machines, so... |
| 18:43.59 | Noodleman | ok, bzdoug, ready? |
| 18:44.05 | scanline | Santa: Well, I think there will be since the amount of computation in Surface per frame is pretty low, but if there is a problem I can just pull out my optimization hat |
| 18:44.23 | Santa | scanline: you should optimize the texture loader |
| 18:44.31 | sussudio | Adaptec ASPI driver 4.71: The change in 4.72 from earlier versions is that it enables tagged queuing for read/write commands. |
| 18:44.31 | sussudio | Microsoft Windows 2000 Resources |
| 18:44.31 | sussudio | Downloads |
| 18:44.31 | sussudio | Compatibility |
| 18:44.38 | scanline | Santa: yeah, I should |
| 18:44.45 | sussudio | isnt that ALWAYS supposed to be on with scsi drivers? |
| 18:46.27 | Santa | scanline: can you get in touch with chris to confirm which theater? |
| 18:46.52 | scanline | Santa: yeah |
| 18:47.54 | hardwire | err |
| 18:47.55 | scanline | hmm... |
| 18:48.06 | scanline | Santa: his phone number isn't listed, so I'll have to just email him |
| 18:48.14 | hardwire | anybody have a clue on how to snag current X/Y positions of the tank from TankSceneNode.cxx ? |
| 18:48.55 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:48.59 | hardwire | pos[] |
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| 18:50.48 | cell | hi patlabor and captain and all the others |
| 18:51.24 | bzdoug | Noodleman: lunch, brb |
| 18:52.42 | cell | found a great IDE(feels better than VC7) for java: http://www.intellij.com |
| 18:53.01 | cell | cool auto complition + docu popup :) |
| 18:53.30 | scanline | I nearly puked each time I was forced to use VC++ for school |
| 18:54.32 | cell | why VC++ i pretty nice? |
| 18:54.33 | hardwire | you poor dear |
| 18:54.51 | Patlabor221 | they don't like IDE's they are linux people |
| 18:54.57 | hardwire | IDE? |
| 18:55.11 | hardwire | sometimes SCSI |
| 18:56.06 | *** join/#bzflag PerfectCell (alton@pD9E50D4A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:56.22 | PerfectCell | how do you get the classmembers? |
| 18:56.31 | PerfectCell | and documentation? |
| 18:57.30 | PerfectCell | that is what i really asked myself several times, especially when i saw ppl programming with xemacs |
| 18:57.42 | Patlabor221 | man pages |
| 18:57.53 | Patlabor221 | and many editors suport that type of stuff |
| 18:58.03 | scanline | That automatic source browser stuff is for people who don't write organized code |
| 18:58.27 | PerfectCell | but if you use third party classes? |
| 18:58.47 | PerfectCell | and what is organized code? |
| 18:58.52 | scanline | haha |
| 18:59.21 | Patlabor221 | it's just a set of tools, some people chose not to use them |
| 18:59.33 | Patlabor221 | well cell is a .net head, so he has to call them that |
| 18:59.40 | scanline | heh |
| 19:00.16 | scanline | it's kind of annoying when people think code always comes in classes... |
| 19:00.20 | PerfectCell | ok, i dont know how this things are called in english |
| 19:00.36 | PerfectCell | so i try to come close to the german words |
| 19:00.58 | PerfectCell | scanline: plz tell me how you programm |
| 19:01.00 | Patlabor221 | code is code |
| 19:01.11 | sussudio | #define schweinhund |
| 19:01.15 | PerfectCell | i want to learn plz |
| 19:01.23 | scanline | PerfectCell: well, I program in multiple languages.. so sometimes I write classes, sometimes objects, sometimes modules.... |
| 19:01.40 | PerfectCell | ok but how do you do it to be fast? |
| 19:01.43 | Patlabor221 | sometimes he writes crap too :) |
| 19:01.53 | scanline | ha |
| 19:03.49 | Patlabor221 | I write crap often |
| 19:03.57 | Patlabor221 | like right now, I'm making crap |
| 19:04.02 | PerfectCell | what is crap? |
| 19:04.10 | Patlabor221 | poo |
| 19:04.14 | Patlabor221 | defication |
| 19:04.15 | akira_ | PerfectCell: out there there are a lot of tools which helps a programmer |
| 19:04.18 | sussudio | PerfectCell: scheisse |
| 19:04.34 | akira_ | and for example vi(m) + emacs build the unices ... |
| 19:04.34 | Patlabor221 | nasty things that come outa your butt when you have had wayyyyy to many bean and cheese buritos. |
| 19:04.44 | PerfectCell | crap: smth that will be of no use any more? |
| 19:05.00 | Patlabor221 | sure crap can work |
| 19:05.06 | Patlabor221 | it's still crap but working crap |
| 19:05.08 | akira_ | PerfectCell: crap == scheisse |
| 19:05.50 | PerfectCell | akira_: i know the german meaning of crap, but i waqnted to know what is a crap source code |
| 19:06.02 | Patlabor221 | ohh my, I hav bzflag using TextureManager |
| 19:06.05 | akira_ | i could write you some if you want :) |
| 19:06.31 | Patlabor221 | I would say most of BZ :) |
| 19:06.38 | PerfectCell | i think that i can do that much better :) |
| 19:06.53 | Patlabor221 | you said you could do it in a week |
| 19:07.05 | Patlabor221 | what ever hapend to your C# bz thing? |
| 19:07.06 | PerfectCell | no i meant writing crap |
| 19:07.09 | *** join/#bzflag yoyox (yoyox@bad.terr0ri.st) |
| 19:07.12 | yoyox | Ha. |
| 19:07.27 | PerfectCell | Patlabor221: you will be suprised |
| 19:07.37 | yoyox | http://stats.bzflag.org/score.php?scoretype=high --------- What my high score? |
| 19:07.43 | Patlabor221 | I want to be suprised |
| 19:07.44 | Patlabor221 | I want to see it |
| 19:07.51 | yoyox | Skurwiele. |
| 19:07.53 | PerfectCell | you saw my puker? |
| 19:08.40 | Patlabor221 | no you never showed us anything |
| 19:08.45 | yoyox | Not first once somebody removes my result. - EOT. Lame site. ;P |
| 19:08.50 | PerfectCell | sure i did |
| 19:08.57 | yoyox | Without comment. |
| 19:08.59 | Patlabor221 | ohh I feel so dirty, I made a version of bz that requires a DLL |
| 19:09.19 | yoyox | Fucking sit. |
| 19:09.22 | *** part/#bzflag yoyox (yoyox@bad.terr0ri.st) |
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| 19:11.43 | PerfectCell | Patlabor221: http:\\217.229.13.74\puker.avi quess what it will do in TankiTank |
| 19:12.46 | Patlabor221 | jaaa es linken is crapenzen |
| 19:13.01 | PerfectCell | was? |
| 19:13.11 | Patlabor221 | link is NFG |
| 19:13.30 | PerfectCell | No Freeping Good |
| 19:13.37 | Patlabor221 | close enough |
| 19:13.40 | Patlabor221 | ohh I saw that |
| 19:13.52 | Patlabor221 | I mean your tank game you were making like 3 months ago |
| 19:13.53 | PerfectCell | its a skinned mesh |
| 19:13.58 | Patlabor221 | what ever hapend with that |
| 19:14.13 | PerfectCell | puker will puke out big bullets |
| 19:14.23 | PerfectCell | aiming at the tank with most energy |
| 19:14.25 | Patlabor221 | this is a skined mesh too |
| 19:14.26 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/screamers/Mk3Tex.png |
| 19:15.30 | PerfectCell | cool stuff saw that already :) |
| 19:15.56 | PerfectCell | i prefer cel shading |
| 19:15.57 | Patlabor221 | but didn't you have stuff that was like in game? |
| 19:16.02 | PerfectCell | as you could see |
| 19:16.04 | Patlabor221 | moving and all that |
| 19:16.09 | PerfectCell | of coz |
| 19:16.28 | PerfectCell | with ellipsoid collision detection from paul nettle |
| 19:16.35 | PerfectCell | working |
| 19:16.38 | scanline | PerfectCell: if you think that was a puker you should try this -> http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/jello-cam.avi |
| 19:16.56 | Noodleman | does anyone know where the code is that clears the screen when you are paused? |
| 19:17.01 | PerfectCell | big one |
| 19:17.13 | PerfectCell | 3% |
| 19:18.06 | PerfectCell | 8% done |
| 19:19.01 | bzdoug | scanline: will http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=443300&group_id=3248&atid=303248 work with the flight sim patch? |
| 19:19.03 | PerfectCell | TankiTank game architecture is pretty simple |
| 19:19.13 | bzdoug | scanline: seperate, not together |
| 19:19.57 | PerfectCell | the server only deals with collision balls and forwarding of data to other clients |
| 19:20.19 | PerfectCell | so all will be done @ client as oppesed to bzflag 1.8 |
| 19:20.31 | scanline | bzdoug: I doubt it |
| 19:20.38 | bzdoug | hum |
| 19:21.29 | bzdoug | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=512060&group_id=3248&atid=303248 will this be in 1.7 anytime soon? |
| 19:23.53 | bzdoug | http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/jello-cam.avi whats that? |
| 19:24.03 | Santa | its a jello cam |
| 19:24.09 | bzdoug | ... |
| 19:24.13 | bzdoug | what program was that |
| 19:24.55 | scanline | the same one that made all the other files in that directory |
| 19:25.02 | Noodleman | bzdoug, you ready? |
| 19:25.09 | bzdoug | almost |
| 19:25.16 | Noodleman | i'll be there |
| 19:25.21 | bzdoug | I am testing some new patches |
| 19:25.24 | bzdoug | ah |
| 19:25.46 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d5113288.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 19:27.47 | PerfectCell | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.00 | bzdoug | PerfectCell: not at all |
| 19:28.04 | bzdoug | PerfectCell: very quick |
| 19:28.13 | Santa | its on a fairly heavily used t1 |
| 19:28.16 | Patlabor221 | hold still I'm trying to see if you look like a new tank |
| 19:28.17 | PerfectCell | i get 9kbit/sec |
| 19:28.55 | bzdoug | Santa: I just downloaded at 150 kbit a few min ago |
| 19:28.57 | Patlabor221 | well it's there, all farked up, but it's tehre |
| 19:29.09 | PerfectCell | Patlabor221: what? |
| 19:30.03 | bzdoug | gah |
| 19:30.04 | Patlabor221 | a bz that reads the tanks in from an external file. |
| 19:30.11 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: where??? |
| 19:30.20 | Patlabor221 | here |
| 19:30.38 | bzdoug | grr, Skip this patch? [y] |
| 19:30.44 | bzdoug | its not asking me |
| 19:32.10 | PerfectCell | the jetstream stuff looks good |
| 19:34.43 | bzdoug | scanline: any changes yet? |
| 19:34.45 | Santa | haha |
| 19:35.06 | bzdoug | scanline: how hard would it be to be able to turn off the flight sim mode? |
| 19:35.09 | bzdoug | in game |
| 19:35.21 | Santa | BAH! |
| 19:35.29 | Santa | bzdoug: life is -more- than just feature requests damnit! |
| 19:35.32 | scanline | Not really hard, I just didn't look at the input code enough to bind extra controls |
| 19:35.38 | bzdoug | ah, ok |
| 19:35.51 | scanline | bzdoug: I don't plan on supporting that patch at all, it was just an experiment |
| 19:36.05 | Patlabor221 | doug join his server |
| 19:36.08 | scanline | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=655366&group_id=3248&atid=303248 <-- now online for everyone to poke at :P |
| 19:36.26 | bzdoug | yea |
| 19:36.34 | bzdoug | Patlabor221? |
| 19:37.24 | Patlabor221 | ok how bout not shoting me so I can see |
| 19:37.37 | bzdoug | 4 out of 4 hunks ignored |
| 19:37.38 | bzdoug | ? |
| 19:37.48 | Santa | bzdoug fails |
| 19:39.22 | scanline | hehe cool.. bzdoug and I just blew each other up in the air, proving that if everyone has this patch the collision detection works fine |
| 19:39.32 | scanline | prepare for BZDogfight |
| 19:40.07 | sussudio | pigdougfight |
| 19:40.40 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/kinda.png |
| 19:40.43 | Patlabor221 | it's almost there |
| 19:41.26 | scanline | wow, that just gets crazy when the GM and laser are involved |
| 19:41.41 | Noodleman | scanline and bzdoug: which are you guys on? |
| 19:41.42 | Patlabor221 | I shall work more on it when I get back |
| 19:41.49 | scanline | it amazes me that people accuse me of being a cheater when I'm on my own server that I set up specifically for that purpose... |
| 19:41.52 | Patlabor221 | but it's useing LGE!!!!! :) |
| 19:41.59 | scanline | Noodleman: navi |
| 19:42.28 | Santa | Patlabor221: haven't i done this already? |
| 19:42.41 | *** join/#bzflag jolly (~ah@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 19:42.57 | akira_ | hi jolly |
| 19:43.02 | jolly | hey akira |
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| 19:44.07 | m0nkeyb0y | morning!!! |
| 19:44.18 | m0nkeyb0y | its snoowwwiiiinnnngggg :) |
| 19:45.15 | akira_ | moin m0nkeyb0y |
| 19:46.47 | PerfectCell | what is superellipsoid, a hyphereliipsoid |
| 19:46.48 | bzdoug | whats the correct patching command line? |
| 19:47.00 | scanline | PerfectCell: it's a superellipsoid.. look it up |
| 19:47.14 | PerfectCell | i doo, but its slow |
| 19:47.51 | scanline | bzdoug: that flight simulator mode gets pretty crazy when multiple people are using it :) |
| 19:48.01 | bzdoug | yes |
| 19:48.05 | bzdoug | I cant patch now |
| 19:48.06 | PerfectCell | scanline: is the menu in jello-cam.avi done with opengl |
| 19:48.10 | PerfectCell | ? |
| 19:48.51 | bzdoug | can't find file to patch at input line 370 |
| 19:48.54 | Santa | PerfectCell: yeah |
| 19:52.05 | bzdoug | scanline: No Files Currently Attached |
| 19:53.06 | scanline | oops |
| 19:53.57 | scanline | think it's there now... |
| 19:54.01 | scanline | galeon was segfaulting :-/ |
| 19:54.09 | scanline | anyway.. time to go fail my probability final |
| 19:55.01 | Santa | enjoy |
| 20:08.23 | hardwire | hmm |
| 20:08.30 | hardwire | paintball splat ont he garage door |
| 20:08.39 | hardwire | I think somebody missed our dog |
| 20:08.46 | *** join/#bzflag jzaun (~jzaun@jzaun.static.telerama.com) |
| 20:11.33 | sussudio | jzaun: can you look at the permissions of the mapfiles on your site, maps uploaded after your rootkit thing are not being included on the random server :-P |
| 20:11.59 | jzaun | ya sure? |
| 20:12.04 | sussudio | yup |
| 20:12.20 | jzaun | the maps themselves are are stored in a DB not in a file |
| 20:12.46 | sussudio | i havent seen a new map on the server yet |
| 20:12.54 | sussudio | just the older ones |
| 20:13.12 | sussudio | or maybe it's a thing with numbers..... maybe it doesnt like maps with a map # higher than 128 or something |
| 20:13.42 | jzaun | let me cycle the maps a bit and see if new ones come up |
| 20:13.47 | sussudio | k |
| 20:18.31 | akira_ | jzaun: huhu |
| 20:18.51 | akira_ | jzaun: i lost my pw for stats.bzflag.org |
| 20:19.27 | jzaun | sussudio: one of your new one are up |
| 20:19.51 | jzaun | akira_: there is a way to have it emailed to you... click login and read |
| 20:19.59 | sussudio | k |
| 20:21.05 | akira_ | thanx |
| 20:21.20 | akira_ | the "here" is not good distinguishable |
| 20:21.21 | akira_ | :) |
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| 20:44.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o BZFlag] by ChanServ |
| 20:48.11 | Patlabor221 | the 7 tickets to the midnight showing of a certan movie are now coloectivly known as "my precious" |
| 20:49.08 | Santa | heh |
| 20:49.29 | jzaun | Patlabor221: I got mine yesterday for the midnight show |
| 20:50.07 | Patlabor221 | ohh I orderd them on friday, just picked them up today |
| 20:50.39 | Patlabor221 | ha http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20021216 |
| 20:57.53 | hardwire | :( |
| 20:59.33 | Santa | BZFlagNotCTO: not CTO? whats up? |
| 21:01.02 | hardwire | Patlabor221: sweet mang.. |
| 21:01.47 | BZFlagNotCTO | http://www.metrowerks.com/MW/Develop/Embedded/Emb_Linux/Strategy.htm |
| 21:04.30 | hardwire | BZFlagNotCTO: what happened, to what now? |
| 21:04.49 | hardwire | embedix takeing over? |
| 21:07.02 | BZFlagNotCTO | metrowerks is buying Lineo/Embedix US offices. |
| 21:07.08 | hardwire | :( |
| 21:07.30 | hardwire | if you can't find a job.. I can sure ship you to alaska and get you one :) |
| 21:07.40 | hardwire | or are you just being demotified? |
| 21:10.18 | Patlabor221 | hmmm in thery this would suport animated models too, must hook up the "part" thing |
| 21:10.47 | hardwire | yeh |
| 21:10.56 | hardwire | I am just trying to animate a few things.. |
| 21:10.58 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:11.02 | hardwire | its not making much progress |
| 21:11.41 | BZFlagNotCTO | hardwire: still up in the air, likely contract work with the new entity. |
| 21:11.44 | hardwire | I now know how to know if I am backing up |
| 21:11.52 | hardwire | BZFlagNotCTO: best of luck |
| 21:11.57 | hardwire | esp this time of year |
| 21:12.48 | Patlabor221 | tho I don't know if this will go on linux, I haven't tried it, it "SHOULD" work |
| 21:13.03 | hardwire | don't say that |
| 21:13.05 | hardwire | your a dozer?! |
| 21:13.18 | Patlabor221 | well it was designed to work in any os, |
| 21:13.29 | Patlabor221 | I just don't have a lin system to test with here |
| 21:13.41 | Patlabor221 | the texture manager has benn "cap" approved |
| 21:14.03 | Patlabor221 | but the OSFIle and AnimModel stuff haven't |
| 21:15.29 | hardwire | you pop my matrix.. baby |
| 21:16.22 | Patlabor221 | that just sounds dirty |
| 21:16.32 | hardwire | you pop my matrix.. |
| 21:16.34 | hardwire | better? |
| 21:17.27 | Patlabor221 | and I have to get shadows working again |
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| 21:20.28 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:25.35 | hardwire | just having the happy little spider in it makes me happy for the moment |
| 21:29.04 | Patlabor221 | bahh this isn't gonna work right |
| 21:29.13 | Patlabor221 | texture gets blown out |
| 21:31.30 | Patlabor221 | thats enough of that for today |
| 21:31.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:31.40 | hardwire | here here |
| 21:44.44 | bzdoug | you got external models in bzflag? |
| 21:47.48 | BZFlagNotCTO | not in 1.7 and 1.8 does not send them over the wire. |
| 21:48.19 | bzdoug | oh |
| 21:48.55 | hardwire | Patlabor221: can you make me a win32 binary with my model patched in? |
| 21:50.39 | Patlabor221 | I can not patch code here so no |
| 21:51.05 | Patlabor221 | I have a form of external models bzflag. |
| 21:51.14 | Patlabor221 | still needs more work tho |
| 21:51.27 | Patlabor221 | in 1.7 |
| 21:51.54 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/kinda.png |
| 21:52.18 | Patlabor221 | got them where they are in the right position now, still have texture, shadow, and expolsion issues. |
| 21:52.37 | bzdoug | ? |
| 21:52.52 | BZFlagNotCTO | Patlabor221: what is that a picture of? |
| 21:53.09 | Patlabor221 | my client where the tanks are relaced with external models |
| 21:53.34 | BZFlagNotCTO | the pda looking things sideways in the air? |
| 21:53.38 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:53.42 | Patlabor221 | it's this modeld |
| 21:53.42 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/Mk3Tex.png |
| 21:53.53 | Patlabor221 | just they are sideways and backwards in that pict |
| 21:54.01 | Patlabor221 | I need to take a better pict |
| 21:54.14 | BZFlagNotCTO | cool. |
| 21:54.36 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 21:54.42 | bzdoug | and its an external file? |
| 21:54.45 | bzdoug | or coded in |
| 21:54.55 | BZFlagNotCTO | would your code handle old tanks as models and/or the bugs too? |
| 21:54.57 | Patlabor221 | it's loaded at run time from an OBJ file |
| 21:55.04 | bzdoug | kewl |
| 21:55.09 | Patlabor221 | yes I have the old tank as an OBJ |
| 21:55.16 | Patlabor221 | and it will explode just the same |
| 21:55.18 | hardwire | take a snap :) |
| 21:55.22 | BZFlagNotCTO | sweet. patches welcome! ;-) |
| 21:55.28 | bzdoug | lol |
| 21:55.33 | bzdoug | hum |
| 21:55.37 | bzdoug | CVS has one warning |
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| 21:55.46 | bzdoug | with scanlines patch |
| 21:55.47 | Patlabor221 | my stuff will take the model and make it blowup in as many "parts" as there are defined in the model |
| 21:55.55 | bzdoug | ah |
| 21:56.09 | hardwire | Patlabor221: that would be nice |
| 21:56.12 | Patlabor221 | so the old model has 5 parts, they will blow up as normal |
| 21:56.21 | BZFlagNotCTO | Patlabor221: nice. you changing colision detection? or assuming same sixe models? |
| 21:56.23 | Patlabor221 | this model has 1 part, so it dosn't blow up |
| 21:56.35 | Patlabor221 | I didn't change collisions at all |
| 21:56.38 | BZFlagNotCTO | well, make some parts. ;-) |
| 21:56.48 | Patlabor221 | this is just in tankrendernode |
| 21:56.59 | bzdoug | does it to textures? |
| 21:57.02 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:57.06 | bzdoug | colors? |
| 21:57.12 | Patlabor221 | it can, just not yet |
| 21:57.15 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:57.20 | bzdoug | ah |
| 21:57.24 | Patlabor221 | I will make it load a texture for each color if there is one with the team name |
| 21:57.28 | BZFlagNotCTO | remember that many folks run without texturing so it needs to look ok without. |
| 21:57.30 | Patlabor221 | it's very basic |
| 21:57.36 | hardwire | yeh |
| 21:57.37 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: yea |
| 21:57.42 | Patlabor221 | that will depend on the model |
| 21:57.45 | hardwire | if you gimme the fiels I can make up a patch for it Patlabor221 |
| 21:57.45 | bzdoug | yeh |
| 21:57.47 | hardwire | files |
| 21:57.55 | hardwire | also test it here |
| 21:57.57 | Patlabor221 | it's no where near ready |
| 21:58.00 | hardwire | since I can do obj related poo |
| 21:58.28 | Patlabor221 | it can also do UT and quake 3 models |
| 21:58.28 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:58.32 | Patlabor221 | and A3d |
| 21:58.32 | bzdoug | hah |
| 21:58.34 | bzdoug | UT? |
| 21:58.39 | hardwire | unreal tootiement |
| 21:58.41 | Patlabor221 | Unreal tournmament |
| 21:58.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:58.46 | bzdoug | so I could get my big guy walking about fraggin tanks? |
| 21:58.53 | bzdoug | bwuahahah |
| 21:59.01 | Patlabor221 | it can do the not-bone format models |
| 21:59.08 | bzdoug | oh |
| 21:59.11 | bzdoug | no animations? |
| 21:59.17 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 21:59.23 | bzdoug | cooool |
| 21:59.26 | Patlabor221 | just not the newer skelital ones |
| 21:59.31 | Patlabor221 | only vertex anims |
| 21:59.34 | bzdoug | like UT2k3? |
| 21:59.46 | hardwire | Patlabor221: not bone format models... is just a bunch of offset obj's right? |
| 21:59.57 | Patlabor221 | no it's vertex anim |
| 22:00.15 | Patlabor221 | there is a set of verts for each frame |
| 22:00.17 | hardwire | how is that then? |
| 22:00.22 | hardwire | storing a bunch of objs? |
| 22:00.24 | Patlabor221 | and it will interpolate them |
| 22:00.27 | Patlabor221 | no just the verts |
| 22:00.28 | hardwire | how do I coalliate them |
| 22:00.34 | hardwire | from a bunch of objs :) |
| 22:00.44 | Patlabor221 | see if belender has MD3 tools |
| 22:00.52 | hardwire | MD3 means what? |
| 22:00.57 | Patlabor221 | it's a format |
| 22:01.04 | Patlabor221 | quake 3 MD3 |
| 22:01.26 | Patlabor221 | I could also hook up MD2 if need be, but that has resolution issues. |
| 22:01.32 | hardwire | Patlabor221: no.. it wouldn't have that |
| 22:01.48 | hardwire | I can export to quite a few things however |
| 22:01.55 | hardwire | and write my own export scripts |
| 22:01.56 | Patlabor221 | list for me |
| 22:02.02 | hardwire | so I don't think it would be hard to make something |
| 22:02.05 | hardwire | list for you? |
| 22:02.10 | Patlabor221 | the formats |
| 22:02.15 | hardwire | not off the top of my head |
| 22:02.26 | hardwire | they are all python scripts just sitting on the net waiting for download |
| 22:02.29 | Patlabor221 | could make an a3d exporter |
| 22:02.34 | Patlabor221 | it's rather simple |
| 22:02.35 | hardwire | very easily |
| 22:02.51 | hardwire | http://www.icculus.org/~phaethon/q3/md3import/md3import.html |
| 22:02.51 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:02.58 | bzdoug | hmm, shoudnt the jump flag jump higher on jumping servers? |
| 22:03.13 | hardwire | Patlabor221: do you have a quake3 model file sitting around? |
| 22:03.13 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's the format |
| 22:03.27 | Patlabor221 | one sec |
| 22:04.35 | Patlabor221 | here you go , the defender of the universe http://www.bakadigital.com/q3mdl-voltron.zip |
| 22:04.45 | Patlabor221 | it will unzip out to a pk3 file |
| 22:04.58 | Patlabor221 | it's also just a zip file, so unzip that and there will be md3 files in it |
| 22:05.07 | bzdoug | um |
| 22:05.13 | bzdoug | why to 2 zips? |
| 22:05.26 | Patlabor221 | polycount zips up the pk3 and the readme |
| 22:05.37 | Patlabor221 | quake reads the pk3 and uses that |
| 22:05.45 | Patlabor221 | but pk3 is realy just a zip file |
| 22:05.57 | Patlabor221 | so if you want to get to the raw model, you unzip it |
| 22:05.57 | hardwire | Patlabor221: I was hoping to have the model file extracted from the pak file |
| 22:06.06 | hardwire | oh |
| 22:06.07 | Patlabor221 | just unzip it |
| 22:06.08 | hardwire | its zipped |
| 22:06.08 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:06.16 | Patlabor221 | the pak is zip |
| 22:06.22 | Patlabor221 | the cheaped out this time |
| 22:06.31 | bzdoug | ah |
| 22:07.09 | Patlabor221 | doug start a server and just sit in it and I'll take a better screen shot |
| 22:07.28 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d5113288.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 22:07.35 | bzdoug | scanline's server |
| 22:07.36 | bzdoug | cya there |
| 22:08.26 | sussudio | hmm i can flip my screen 90 or 180 degrees with this new radeon catalyst driver :-P |
| 22:08.29 | sussudio | useful. or something. |
| 22:08.44 | bzdoug | me too |
| 22:09.06 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: you goin? |
| 22:09.22 | Patlabor221 | I"m in |
| 22:09.25 | bzdoug | k |
| 22:10.19 | hardwire | well |
| 22:10.19 | hardwire | thats voltrons head |
| 22:10.37 | Patlabor221 | you musta loaded upper |
| 22:10.39 | Patlabor221 | or head |
| 22:11.11 | hardwire | what musta I loada then>? |
| 22:11.20 | bzdoug | got it? |
| 22:11.24 | Patlabor221 | q3 models are broken into 3 parts |
| 22:11.28 | Patlabor221 | lower upper and head |
| 22:11.45 | Patlabor221 | and each part can have N "meshes" |
| 22:12.02 | Patlabor221 | I sorta got it, textureing is messed tho |
| 22:12.07 | m0nkeyb0y | good nite all |
| 22:12.09 | *** part/#bzflag m0nkeyb0y (~sn0w_m0nk@photon.unm.edu) |
| 22:12.28 | hardwire | it doesn't import animatinos yet |
| 22:12.37 | Patlabor221 | www.bakadigital.com/sorta.png |
| 22:12.50 | hardwire | 404 |
| 22:13.36 | Patlabor221 | damnit |
| 22:13.42 | Patlabor221 | i did it as a tga |
| 22:13.48 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/sorta.tga |
| 22:14.33 | Patlabor221 | there http://www.bakadigital.com/sorta.png works now |
| 22:14.42 | hardwire | thank god |
| 22:14.58 | hardwire | neat |
| 22:15.01 | hardwire | no texmap yet? |
| 22:15.06 | bzdoug | cool |
| 22:15.12 | Patlabor221 | i has one |
| 22:15.18 | Patlabor221 | but it gets blown out the first time you die |
| 22:15.20 | hardwire | its bright |
| 22:15.23 | hardwire | oh |
| 22:15.25 | hardwire | :( |
| 22:15.26 | Patlabor221 | so it's crap |
| 22:15.33 | Patlabor221 | still needs lots of work |
| 22:15.47 | Patlabor221 | I think that state thing is screwing me up |
| 22:16.01 | Patlabor221 | I need to go tell it to just turn on everything and my class will handle the rest |
| 22:16.27 | Patlabor221 | up to an including multipass textures and sphereical enviroment maping. |
| 22:16.32 | bzdoug | how do I get this to compile release versions? |
| 22:16.43 | Patlabor221 | get what to compile what? |
| 22:16.52 | bzdoug | bzflag in VC++ 6 |
| 22:16.57 | Patlabor221 | change the build type |
| 22:17.01 | bzdoug | where? |
| 22:17.04 | Patlabor221 | from debug to release |
| 22:17.11 | bzdoug | .. |
| 22:17.12 | Patlabor221 | in the build toolbar |
| 22:17.33 | bzdoug | aha |
| 22:18.00 | Patlabor221 | or do a batch build, or change your defalut active config, there are many ways |
| 22:19.01 | bzdoug | k |
| 22:19.34 | Patlabor221 | hardwire I'll write up a spec for the a3d format, and maybe you can make an export script for it |
| 22:19.59 | hardwire | right on |
| 22:23.54 | bzdoug | ok doke people, lets go fly on scanlines server! |
| 22:23.59 | bzdoug | I got a few mods |
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| 22:24.51 | hardwire | fly? |
| 22:34.34 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:34.37 | Santa | hmm |
| 22:35.14 | bzdoug | scanline: hmmm, there isnt anyway to get reg clients to see shots going down? |
| 22:36.24 | scanline | nope |
| 22:36.32 | scanline | at least not that I know of |
| 22:36.33 | bzdoug | k |
| 22:36.46 | Santa | GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 22:37.09 | Santa | its now been 8 days on a ground shipment from a place 3 hours drive away |
| 22:37.11 | scanline | Santa: have a cookie. By the time you finish eating it, you'll feel right as rain |
| 22:37.29 | Santa | scanline: i've had lots. no help |
| 22:38.20 | bzdoug | you took it apart? |
| 22:39.07 | scanline | well, I took it apart around thanksgiving to upgrade its hard disk.. it's mostly reassembled, but I have the keyboard in many pieces right now because a few keys weren't responding |
| 22:39.15 | Santa | yaaaaaay habanero chips |
| 22:39.31 | bzdoug | scanline: sounds like my laptop |
| 22:39.34 | Santa | (aka mountain dew effect) |
| 22:39.39 | scanline | do they last longer in your room, or do you just buy them more frequently? |
| 22:39.41 | bzdoug | you have to rip it apart to change drives? |
| 22:39.55 | scanline | yeah.. the hard disk is kind of buried in there |
| 22:39.57 | Santa | scanline: getting more frequently :P |
| 22:40.01 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:40.04 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 22:40.20 | Santa | dan picked some up while using up the money on his card |
| 22:40.56 | sussudio | sushi money? |
| 22:43.16 | *** join/#bzflag hardwire (~hardwire@12-252-5-124.client.attbi.com) |
| 22:46.05 | scanline | hardwire: scared away by the thought of flying tanks? |
| 22:46.14 | hardwire | no |
| 22:46.18 | hardwire | I wanna play with flying tanks |
| 22:46.28 | hardwire | I just wanted to replace the network card in my firewall |
| 22:46.30 | hardwire | it died |
| 22:46.48 | bzdoug | *sniff |
| 22:46.51 | sussudio | it's not dead, it's pining for the fjords |
| 22:46.56 | bzdoug | nooo |
| 22:47.03 | hardwire | scanline: where is your mary poppins server? |
| 22:47.03 | bzdoug | how did I know you was gonna say that? |
| 22:47.18 | scanline | well, it's a patch for the client |
| 22:47.18 | sussudio | you didnt |
| 22:47.38 | sussudio | in soviet russia the NIC kills YOU! |
| 22:47.38 | scanline | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=655366&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 22:47.53 | bzdoug | argh |
| 22:48.14 | sussudio | imagine a beowulf cluster of broken nics, smeared with hot grits |
| 22:48.31 | bzdoug | scary |
| 22:49.31 | Santa | scanline: when does jens final end? |
| 22:49.57 | scanline | dunno |
| 22:51.17 | Patlabor221 | well hardwire, here is the format http://www.bakadigital.com/a3dformat.txt |
| 22:51.57 | Santa | hmm |
| 22:52.08 | Santa | scanline: you should give me the sg1 disk 4 again ;-) |
| 22:52.32 | jzaun | Star Gate 1? |
| 22:52.43 | hardwire | super cow doesn't like me |
| 22:52.53 | Patlabor221 | sg1 roxors the boxors |
| 22:52.53 | Santa | super gigawatt 1 |
| 22:55.20 | jzaun | Star Gate ! is better :-) |
| 22:56.02 | bzdoug | slimy goat |
| 22:56.32 | Patlabor221 | sepultura/gwuar concertr series 1 |
| 22:56.41 | bzdoug | ummm |
| 22:57.22 | bzdoug | hmmm, too bad bzflag doesnt open global.h everytime it runs |
| 22:58.20 | Patlabor221 | he did not just say that did he? |
| 22:59.00 | Patlabor221 | talk about "not clear on the concept" |
| 22:59.44 | Patlabor221 | doug you can make the exe smaller too by using smaller fonts in the editor, it saves space. |
| 22:59.52 | bzdoug | yea |
| 22:59.53 | bzdoug | I did that |
| 23:02.41 | hardwire | ok |
| 23:02.47 | hardwire | people are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheating |
| 23:02.48 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:02.52 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 23:02.58 | hardwire | yeah |
| 23:03.06 | hardwire | people jumping 5x as high blaming lag |
| 23:03.14 | bzdoug | on what server? |
| 23:03.14 | scanline | what server? |
| 23:03.21 | bzdoug | scanline: woof |
| 23:03.23 | Santa | hardwire: that can happen with 1.7e6 and very low framerates |
| 23:03.24 | hardwire | I have people cornered.. shoot them 5 times.. and they blame lag that they shot me |
| 23:03.25 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:03.51 | hardwire | 66.73.32.154 |
| 23:04.07 | sussudio | ibot bzfquery 66.73.32.154 |
| 23:04.59 | hardwire | well |
| 23:05.02 | hardwire | crap |
| 23:05.11 | hardwire | this guy has "amazing" lag then. and guided missles |
| 23:05.12 | hardwire | what a combo |
| 23:05.22 | hardwire | the missels never miss.. but I sure do :) |
| 23:05.53 | hardwire | and I used to think people heated cause they had a better fps than I did :) |
| 23:05.57 | hardwire | cheated |
| 23:08.40 | hardwire | ibot bzfquery 66.73.32.154 |
| 23:08.53 | hardwire | guess who nobody can kill :) |
| 23:09.48 | bzdoug | barney? |
| 23:09.52 | Santa | people who live in stone houses shouldn't throw glasses |
| 23:09.57 | hardwire | Texas Hunter mainly |
| 23:10.02 | bzdoug | Santa: oh hoooo |
| 23:10.35 | Santa | texas hunter isn't a cheater |
| 23:11.04 | hardwire | you sure? |
| 23:11.11 | hardwire | cause I just shot him a few hundres times |
| 23:11.20 | hardwire | point blank |
| 23:11.21 | sussudio | cholera? |
| 23:11.37 | hardwire | hmm |
| 23:11.42 | hardwire | barney just admitted he is a punk |
| 23:11.58 | sussudio | bah screw this "body shaping" crud |
| 23:12.01 | sussudio | i'm in shape....... |
| 23:12.06 | sussudio | round's a shape, isnt it |
| 23:12.08 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:12.20 | hardwire | barney just grunted the blast of a shockwave.. no die |
| 23:12.24 | hardwire | stupid cheaters |
| 23:12.27 | bzdoug | hah |
| 23:16.26 | hardwire | all the spiders on ducati! |
| 23:29.19 | scanline | ugg.. I think this keyboard's had it |
| 23:30.11 | hardwire | happy |
| 23:30.12 | hardwire | hacker |
| 23:30.17 | hardwire | + |
| 23:30.18 | hardwire | nostromo |
| 23:30.20 | hardwire | joystick |
| 23:30.24 | hardwire | = happy hacker with joystick |
| 23:30.44 | scanline | this is a laptop keyboard that I was talking about |
| 23:30.48 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:30.53 | scanline | the Model M on my desktop works great :) |
| 23:32.39 | Santa | microsoft windows stargate edition |
| 23:32.50 | Patlabor221 | does it have the iris? |
| 23:32.58 | Patlabor221 | for when you get a mail virus? |
| 23:32.59 | Santa | iris is SGI stupid |
| 23:33.03 | hardwire | I have in my immediate grasp.. three keyboards.. 2 mice a keypad a gamepad and two joysticks.. |
| 23:33.08 | Patlabor221 | noo the titanium one |
| 23:33.10 | Santa | its just that carter powercycled it |
| 23:33.22 | Santa | and thats the best ever fix for windows |
| 23:34.14 | hardwire | mr input is gonna get up.. and go watcht he abyss now |
| 23:34.24 | sussudio | doug is mr cholorine input |
| 23:34.31 | Patlabor221 | YOU SHALLL NOT PASSSS!!!! |
| 23:34.32 | hardwire | eh? |
| 23:34.40 | sussudio | bleachboy |
| 23:34.52 | hardwire | so patlabor feel like figuring out when things go backwards |
| 23:34.53 | hardwire | forwards |
| 23:34.57 | hardwire | turn |
| 23:35.11 | Patlabor221 | for you anim? |
| 23:35.14 | hardwire | and then making cycling animation indexes for tank style treads |
| 23:35.23 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 23:35.23 | hardwire | yeh.. |
| 23:35.24 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:35.26 | hardwire | damn you |
| 23:35.33 | hardwire | I just wanna make it walk |
| 23:35.38 | hardwire | already got it to spin its body around |
| 23:35.40 | Patlabor221 | I"d just gank one from the jar head |
| 23:35.49 | hardwire | jar head? |
| 23:35.59 | Patlabor221 | it's a UT model with spider legs |
| 23:36.02 | hardwire | no |
| 23:36.04 | hardwire | the model is fine |
| 23:36.05 | Patlabor221 | it's got anims for all that |
| 23:36.10 | hardwire | I can do the model |
| 23:36.14 | Patlabor221 | I'm not saying use the model |
| 23:36.22 | Patlabor221 | just use it as an anim refrence |
| 23:36.36 | Patlabor221 | what you realy need is character studio |
| 23:36.41 | Patlabor221 | that's what it does |
| 23:36.44 | hardwire | its determining the frames for things like for tank tread movement |
| 23:36.54 | hardwire | like if you were in a tank.. and you were moving forward and slightly to the left |
| 23:37.02 | hardwire | the right tread would be a little faster cycling |
| 23:37.04 | Patlabor221 | that would be algorimich |
| 23:37.07 | hardwire | yeah |
| 23:37.11 | Patlabor221 | icky |
| 23:37.24 | Santa | algorihzems |
| 23:37.44 | hardwire | hmm |
| 23:38.02 | hardwire | this guy was so excited I was looking at his 20 gig solid state drives |
| 23:38.10 | hardwire | that he is sending me a 2 gig one to break |
| 23:41.55 | scanline | I have an icon for a flat panel monitor? |
| 23:42.02 | *** join/#bzflag cell (alton@pD9590CE3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:42.03 | Patlabor221 | yes you do |
| 23:42.09 | Patlabor221 | a number of them |
| 23:42.29 | scanline | you mean the ones from Crystal? |
| 23:42.34 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:42.42 | Patlabor221 | I can't get to the crystal page |
| 23:42.45 | scanline | hmm |
| 23:42.56 | scanline | I can DCC you the tarball with all the crystal icons |
| 23:43.04 | scanline | there are a bunch of them, from 16x16 to 128x128 |
| 23:43.05 | Patlabor221 | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :) |
| 23:43.13 | scanline | they're GPL'ed |
| 23:43.18 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 23:43.22 | Patlabor221 | I just need it for a test |
| 23:43.45 | Patlabor221 | to show my company what real icons look like |
| 23:43.52 | scanline | it's a little big :) |
| 23:44.05 | cell | make winXP icons :) |
| 23:44.08 | Patlabor221 | I remember when 7 megs was large |
| 23:44.22 | Patlabor221 | XP Icons = bland pastells |
| 23:45.05 | cell | question of taste |
| 23:45.21 | Patlabor221 | but we will be making XP res icons |
| 23:45.28 | cell | how you like cell shading? |
| 23:45.36 | scanline | XP has the most awful nauseating color scheme I've ever seen, and the fact that people buy it is proof that MS has a monopoly |
| 23:45.51 | Patlabor221 | ohh the "my first windows" theme? |
| 23:45.54 | Patlabor221 | you don't have to use that |
| 23:46.11 | scanline | it's so... so.... ick |
| 23:46.15 | Patlabor221 | only people I know who use it is my parents |
| 23:46.19 | Santa | Patlabor221: what percentage of XP users do you think knew that they could change the look when they bought it? |
| 23:46.46 | Patlabor221 | I know a lot of people who use it, and many are not that savy, and almost noone keeps that seting |
| 23:46.49 | Patlabor221 | it's realy easy to change |
| 23:47.11 | Patlabor221 | it seems old people use that more |
| 23:48.06 | cell | yes because they are afraid to change something |
| 23:48.32 | Patlabor221 | actualy I think 1 they like the larger stuff, easyer on there eyes, and 2 they don't relay care. |
| 23:49.27 | cell | how can i finger the entery lan, i just want to get to know if a person has looged on a machine yesterday? |
| 23:50.29 | scanline | you have to make your finger very long, and network transparent |
| 23:51.24 | cell | hm, dont know how to do that |
| 23:51.54 | scanline | you need a particle accelerator, a 10-foot-tall comic book, and a vat of sour cream |
| 23:52.07 | scanline | oh, and it has to be radioactive sour cream |
| 23:52.56 | cell | i dont like milk or products that contain milk |
| 23:53.47 | scanline | well, you can try radioactive soy sour cream, but your finger might not be 100% network transparent, so you run the risk of getting it stuck in someone else's router |
| 23:54.00 | cell | is there a command that list all the available unix shells |
| 23:54.12 | cell | i dont remember that good one i used |
| 23:54.43 | cell | bsksh |
| 23:54.46 | cell | bksh |
| 23:54.53 | cell | shit i dont know |
| 23:56.15 | scanline | foosh |
| 23:56.30 | cell | not found |
| 23:56.48 | scanline | squish - the SQl Ubiquity Inquiry Shell |
| 23:57.12 | cell | lol, no |
| 23:58.03 | cell | tcsh, i got it again |
| 23:58.05 | hardwire | this living room is now under my jurisdiction.. |
| 23:58.22 | sussudio | all your livingrooms are belong to us |
| 23:58.31 | hardwire | you got it |
| 23:58.51 | sussudio | dirty deeds done dirty cheap |
| 23:59.03 | scanline | ibot: ddd is the best debugger ever |
| 23:59.04 | | ...but ddd is already something else... |
| 23:59.09 | scanline | ibot: ddd? |
| 23:59.13 | | Common graphical user interface for GDB, DBX and XDB. URL: http://www.cs.tu-bs.de/softech/ddd/ |
| 23:59.13 | hardwire | mmmm |
| 23:59.13 | hardwire | vanilla custard |
| 23:59.28 | scanline | ibot: ddd is also spiffariffic |
| 23:59.29 | | scanline: okay |
