irclog2html for #bzflag on 20021127

00:01.50MrApathyCreamBZFlag: yeah, yeah, patches welcome ;(
00:02.07BZFlagyou mean set the default maxplayers to some lower value?
00:02.31BZFlagso you need to use -mp in order to make it larger?
00:03.01MrApathyCreamset it to 0 until players connect
00:03.12MrApathyCreambump it as slotss are allocated
00:03.28MrApathyCreammaxplayer = highest array pos takin
00:05.41MrApathyCreamnever goes down even if players leave
00:06.02Patlabor221would you put a cap on that?
00:07.08MrApathyCreamwell MaxPlayers the constant would still stay at 200
00:07.16MrApathyCreamjust all the loops that do checking, should stop at the high water mark
00:07.33Patlabor221that would make it faster
00:08.04Patlabor221why not just have the loops just do those that are online
00:08.08Chestalbzflag: can you explain the latst change, this muzzle thing for the suicidal bots?
00:08.09Patlabor221no more no less?
00:08.32BZFlagMrApathyCream: ahh, you mean just to conserve memory?
00:08.43MrApathyCreamspeed
00:08.55MrApathyCreamloops would be from 0 to highwatermark, as opposed 0 to 200
00:08.58BZFlagah, and loops. sounds useful.
00:09.09MrApathyCreambbl
00:09.29BZFlagChestal: when playing with -solo <n> the bots kill themselves all the time.
00:09.52BZFlagI suspect that the shot is calculated before the bot moves, and so he moves into is own shot.
00:10.05BZFlagthat was just to get a larger buffer (and extra 10 cm)
00:10.41BZFlagvisually it still looked ok to me watching someone shoot from the side.
00:10.43Chestalhmm, but I coudl imagine that with this change and a mixed setup of old and new clients there would be some minor effects
00:11.09Chestalfor example, the client updates dead reckoning when it receives a beginshot and caluclates the tank position by takign muzzlelength into account
00:11.14BZFlagChestal: I would be surprised, as the shotbegin includes the location.
00:11.35Chestalys, but shotlocation-tanklocation=muzzlelength
00:11.40BZFlagah, forgot the dead reckoning... it that in there now?
00:11.49Chestalsince e6 IIRC
00:12.05BZFlaghmm. you could be right. if so, revert the change.
00:12.38ChestalI don't know if it's noticable
00:12.50Chestaldidn't know the bots were still funtional anyway.-)
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00:52.54ak|ralupinator: still here?
00:56.13Patlabor221mmmmmm "pimp hover tank" and "baby tank" are now in the BZE title image rotation :)
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03:45.11*** topic/#bzflag is Updated BZEdit Windows http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit || rank: http://happypenguin.org/show?BZFlag || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html || http://BZFlag.org 1.7e6 (Armoured Smashing Fist 2002) || 1.7 will become HEAD, 1.8 to be retired And It's SILL ALL DOUG'S FAULT :)
03:45.11*** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ
03:45.29BZFlag~wb
03:45.30thx
03:48.40jzaunBZFlag: Mandrake
03:48.50BZFlagrpm -Va ?
03:49.20Zopatistajzaun: Auchie
03:49.31jzaunBZFlag: I can't ssh to the box so I ahve to wait till morning to drive to my ISP to get to the box to fix the problem
03:49.41Zopatistajzaun: good luck de-rooting the box; full wipe and reinstall I'd say.
03:49.57jzaunBZFlag: that root is Suckit
03:50.32jzaunZopatista: shouldn't be nessisary... I was fixing it, but installed the wrong SysVInit version after the reboot it wouldn't come back  up
03:50.54Zopatistajzaun: ah. sucks still.
03:50.56jzaunJust need to install the correct SysVInit to get it back alive and I can clean it up
03:51.09Zopatistano serial access?
03:51.20jzaunhttp://www.soohrt.org/stuff/linux/suckit/
03:51.34BZFlagjzaun: you don't have a ssh key in root? or was it removed?
03:51.35jzaunZopatista: the computer is a 30 min. drive from where I live
03:52.14jzaunBZFlag: never added a key for root, just su to root from my account if I needed it
03:53.09jzaunhttp://www.phrack.com/show.php?p=58&a=7   <-- Thats the source code to the root
03:53.26jzaunI wanna kill that guy.... If I could I'de sue his a** off
03:54.17jzaunsad thing is I have a hunch it was a BZ player who did it
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03:55.40polin8is there a way to back out of bzflag without quiting? (ie to lower the system volume)
03:55.53Zopatistamy vote goes to spongy
03:56.09fiberchunksyeah, esc, options, sound volume
03:56.15BZFlagpolin8: pause? or options->volume ?
03:56.34fiberchunksspooge would be a good bet
03:58.50jzaunhim or any of the other PITA players...
03:59.09jzaunOnce I get back on the computer I'll check the logs... I know the day to look on
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04:08.35fiberchunks_lemme see
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04:09.04captain_proton"python...isn't that some kind of snake?"
04:09.20scanlineactual commen?
04:09.22scanlineerr, comment?
04:10.13scanlineThe expression on everyone's face at the mention of Linux or OpenGL was also interesting
04:10.21scanlineinteresting in that autopsy photo sort of way...
04:10.46captain_protonscanline: that was the impression dan got from my description
04:10.48Zopatistacaptain_proton: as backup webmaster for python.org I hear that one way too often.
04:10.57scanlinehehe
04:11.45polin8figured out how to break out of bzflag.  press the pause button
04:11.47scanlinecaptain_proton: what makes python's reference system more sane than Java or C# might be the concept of immutable objects it has :)
04:11.53polin8;)
04:11.58polin8BZFlag: thanks
04:12.06Zopatistajzaun: Okay if I post a topic on the bzflag board? (from shell shock, DutchRAIs site)
04:13.10jzaunZopatista: what?
04:13.41Zopatistajzaun: I am posting a message on the board about stats and jzaun.com being rooted and down.
04:14.04jzaunok... give me the URL I wanna read it :-)
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04:17.08sussudiogrmpf
04:23.33jzaunrecuitment for what?
04:23.38captain_protonjetstream
04:24.48jzaunwhats that?
04:25.40captain_protoneek people are gonna want my machine to be available for that :)
04:25.49Zopatistaposted
04:25.56Zopatistahttp://pub33.ezboard.com/fbzflagfrm1
04:26.03Zopatistasimple but effective, I hope.
04:26.11scanlinecaptain_proton: I doubt many people will actually care that I'm deleting it from picogui CVS
04:26.53scanlineI suppose I could keep it in CVS as an example, and just remove a lot of the big textures... but I'd rather just keep the existing 'simple' demo simple and point people at jetstream if they want a more complex example of using picogui in a game
04:27.07captain_protonscanline: true
04:27.35scanlinemainly because if I was going to make it small it would involve ditching the skybox and caustics, and I like them :)
04:28.57scanlinecaptain_proton: in the theme language, you can define objects with arbitrary names then apply those custom themes to individual widgets :)
04:30.57Zopatistaalso submitted for the BZ Times.
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04:33.51ZopatistaFor those needing their fix
04:33.54ZopatistaSee http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/WhoisPlaying.html
04:34.21BZFlag~bzflist
04:35.23Zopatistakewl
04:36.09ZopatistaAnyone know what 134.106.11.152 is? Spongy is there now.
04:37.10sussudio* Resolved 134.106.11.152 to woody.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
04:37.12sussudiothat was hard.
04:37.46Zopatistaguess I am looking for an admin there.. best the poor soul is banned for his own good.
04:37.58sussudioadmin where?
04:38.04Zopatistanight all
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04:39.07sussudioisnt that the pinguin hideout
04:39.21scanlinecaptain_proton: I have a few extra media files here, like the .xcf for the ship, and un-jpeg'ed versions of the caustics. you want them in svn?
04:39.36captain_protonscanline: sure, just create a new directory to throw them in
04:39.44scanlineok
04:40.30scanlinedoes svn need anything special to handle binary files?
04:40.53scanlineoh, never mind.. I should RTFM
04:41.09captain_protonsvn > cvs
04:41.13scanlinesvn is neat
04:43.30captain_protonhttp://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/]\
04:43.31captain_protoneek
04:43.33captain_protonhttp://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/
04:43.40scanlinecaptain_proton: I was also thinking about redoing the directory structure, just that with CVS it was hard
04:43.55captain_protonthe main menu flying python console!
04:44.12scanlinecaptain_proton: put all the C++ source in a 'src' directory, then move data/src to something like media_src, so once it's compiled you can just install 'data' without having to worry about stripping out data/src
04:44.29captain_protonscanline: works for me
04:44.33scanlinehmm.. can't resolve that DNS
04:44.47captain_protonhasn't propagated yet
04:44.53scanlineah. what's the IP?
04:44.54captain_protonadd 161.97.199.99 to the front of your resolv.conf
04:44.59scanlineok
04:45.00captain_protonIP won't work, namevirtualhosts
04:45.55scanlinehehe, text is a bit blurry in the python console screenshot.. did you resize the window?
04:46.19captain_protonyeah a little :)
04:46.31captain_protonwe can redo it once the textbox works
04:46.50captain_protonhmm
04:46.54captain_protonwe need a trite little message
04:47.40sussudiojzaun rootkit?
04:51.14captain_protonscanline: hows it look now?
04:51.52scanlineI'd rather have micah@navi.picogui.org or micahjd@users.sourceforge.net than my colorado.edu address, they're more reliable
04:52.10captain_protonk
04:52.39scanlinemight also want some bullet-points to get people interested
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04:53.57sussudio<PROTECTED>
04:55.42captain_protonupdated
04:55.52scanlinehehe
04:58.13scanlinesrc/SoundManager.cpp:154: warning: deleting `void*' is undefined
04:58.36captain_protonsound manager needs a lot of cleanup
05:08.17captain_protonwe really should stop flooding #bzflag and #picogui with this :)
05:08.26captain_proton/j #jetstream
05:08.31scanlinenot like anyone's on-topic in either channel :)
05:08.40captain_protonheh
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05:16.32sussudio~lart my isp
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08:09.28prodanguete morge
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08:56.33MrApathyCreamibot, seen_captain_proton?
08:56.34I'm busy implementing cache cleanup on linux
08:57.46MrApathyCreamcool thanks ibot!
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09:12.29DrVankmanHey,  is the list server down, right now?
09:12.42DrVankmanThat is, if anyone is in here
09:13.17scanlinenobody's here
09:13.49DrVankmanDo you know if the list server is down?
09:13.57DrVankmanI can't get a list on any of my computers
09:14.09scanlinenobody's here... because I crossed the beams
09:14.14captain_protonhttp://list.bzflag.org:5156/
09:14.15DrVankmanWhat?
09:14.26captain_protonthats the list server
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09:14.30DrVankmanDid it change?
09:14.46DrVankmanI can't get onto stats.bzflag.org either
09:14.53ak|ramoin
09:14.55captain_protonstats.bzflag.org is down for a different reason
09:15.02captain_protonand the list server did not change
09:15.35DrVankmanOkay, cool. Thanks
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09:18.13bomber_moin moin
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09:28.09sussudiokill.kill.kill.kill.
09:52.48bomber_Pinguin?
09:56.09MrApathyCreamhelldesk?
09:56.38[dmp]ibot ducati
09:56.48[dmp]oh
10:06.04Pinguin?
10:25.52bomber_Pinguin warst du gestern bei uns ?
10:26.04PinguinDie ganze Zeit ... als blauer ...
10:27.00ak|raals kommentator
10:27.07PinguinZuschauer
10:27.15bomber_martina will sich entschuldigen
10:27.18Pinguin?
10:27.25bomber_ich meine bei UNS
10:27.30Pinguin???
10:27.37bomber_zu Hause
10:27.44Pinguin????????????
10:27.47bomber_????????????????????
10:27.59bomber_du wolltest vorbeikommen
10:28.11Pinguinja, aber das Match ...
10:28.20bomber_okadoka
10:28.26bomber_alles klar
10:28.31Pinguinman muss Prioritäten setzen ...
10:28.37bomber_und wie war es?
10:28.43Pinguin???
10:28.50Pinguindas Match?
10:28.53bomber_ich konnte nicht so viel beobachten
10:28.58bomber_ja?
10:29.02Pinguindie ersten drei Minuten waren gut :-)
10:29.08ak|ra:)
10:29.11bomber_:o)
10:29.15ak|ranaja, der rest war auch nicht schlecht
10:29.19ak|ra*grummel*
10:29.24bomber_aber hast du das score gesehen?
10:29.26Pinguinan den nächsten 27 min müssen wir noch arbeiten
10:29.36bomber_akira in -
10:29.42bomber_chestal in -
10:29.50bomber_bomber in +
10:30.06bomber_alles hat lupi gemacht
10:30.06ak|raakira -1
10:30.11ak|rachestal -1
10:30.22ak|raakira hat aber 3 mal die fahne in den pott gebracht
10:30.24bomber_lupi +19
10:30.44bomber_du konntest lupi danken
10:30.58ak|ralupi wurde gedankt :)
10:31.40bomber_naechstes mal wenn Pinguin trenieren wird, seid ihr dran
10:32.19bomber_was sind das penguins ohne Pinguin
10:32.45bomber_Pinguin muss in Senegal trenieren
10:34.22Pinguinbomber?
10:35.04Pinguinwir müssen das Projekt BomberBot und PinguinBot wieder aufgreifen!
10:36.26bomber_ok
10:36.46bomber_momentan habe ich probleme mit threads :o)
10:37.09Pinguinich habe eine threads uns somit keine Probleme :-)
10:37.58bomber_bist du dir sicher?
10:38.03bomber_:o))
10:38.09Pinguinnein ... wieso ?
10:38.35bomber_weil das waere irgendwie langweilig
10:38.45bomber_:o))
10:39.45bomber_Pinguin: weisst du etwas ueber MHD(magnetohydrodynamik) ?
10:40.32Pinguinnein!
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10:49.49[TeA|]-[XP]huhu
10:49.50bomber_hi tea
10:50.07[TeA|]-[XP]so ,  bin jetzt krank :o(
10:50.18bomber_:o(
10:50.23[TeA|]-[XP]habe mich von der arbeit befreihen lassen
10:50.29[TeA|]-[XP]:o(
10:50.44[TeA|]-[XP]erkältung , kopfweh , leichter fieber
10:50.49[TeA|]-[XP]grml
10:51.03bomber_brrrr
10:51.26bomber_drink tea
10:51.28[TeA|]-[XP]ibot ducati
10:51.39[TeA|]-[XP]tea will trink tea
10:51.46[TeA|]-[XP]:o)
10:51.48[TeA|]-[XP]Kamille
10:51.53[TeA|]-[XP]od. so
10:51.59[TeA|]-[XP]ibot ducati
10:52.05[TeA|]-[XP]ibot ned da
10:52.12ChestalKamille ist lecker
10:52.28[TeA|]-[XP]nur wenn man krank ist schmeck der mir :o)
10:52.53[TeA|]-[XP]schönes spiel gestern
10:53.10[TeA|]-[XP]im on ducati !
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12:09.24prodanhola
12:10.31prodanibot insult sussudio
12:10.49prodanhmmm
12:10.56prodanibot insult sussudio
12:11.02prodanbetter
12:16.59[TeA|TrEE]hi
12:17.01[TeA|TrEE]prodi
12:23.46sussudioschweinhund
12:24.20sussudio~cheeseslap prozac
12:24.25ACTION slaps prozac around with a wheel of gouda
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12:35.57prodanibot schweinhund
12:35.57i don't know, prodan
12:36.24prodanibot schweinhund is the proof that sussudio can neither spell nor is willing to learn.
12:36.24prodan: okay
12:36.36prodanibot schweinhund
12:36.37schweinhund is probably the proof that sussudio can neither spell nor is willing to learn.
12:37.21prodan~swisscheeseslap sussudio.
12:37.22i haven't a clue, prodan
12:58.54bomber_ibot ducati?
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12:58.55bzbotMIRELLA (G): -2 (14-16). calico (R): 2 (19-17). tanq (R): -5 (7-12). egg (G): 4 (15-11). Odin (R): -4 (1-5). Quol (G): -1 (3-4).
13:10.41bomber_ibot ducati?
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13:10.43bzbotcalico (R): -1 (0-1). egg (R): -2 (14-16). MIRELLA (G): 6 (8-2). Odin (R): -11 (17-28). Quol (G): 10 (30-20). brotMachine (G): -11 (4-15).
13:13.49bomber_ibot ducati?
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13:13.50bzbotcalico (R): 0 (2-2). MIRELLA (G): 9 (16-7).
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13:33.02bzbotbomber (G): 0 (0-0). itsme (R): 0 (0-0). 1of3 (G): -12 (21-33). the Hausdorff Metric (R): 8 (36-28).
13:33.03sussudiobzflag in cvs segfaults on me after i exit
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13:37.52bzbotwheeloflaw (r): 34 (72-38).
13:37.55snykewow.
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14:14.02sussudioif i compile bzflag cvs with debug, will it tell me why it segfaults?
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14:16.40bzbotlolita (G): 8 (16-8). dave (R): -2 (11-13). CRS (G): -9 (22-31). Arch Angel (R): -5 (7-12). tanq (R): 0 (3-3).
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14:19.43sussudiohmm
14:19.46MrApathyCreamwhta segfaults, client or server?
14:19.54sussudioi think it segfaults on sound
14:20.00sussudiothe client does
14:20.49MrApathyCream1.7?
14:21.25sussudiobah alsa is being a bitch
14:21.29sussudioyeah 1.7 cvs
14:21.58MrApathyCreamwell, a debug build is more likely to point out where the problem is
14:22.32sussudiohmm my sound is gone altogether now
14:23.37sussudiohmz i think it's screwed up good
14:23.49sussudioi havent been able to play sound since bzflag segfaulted
14:24.03sussudioah! naughty!
14:24.06sussudioit was still in mem
14:25.16sussudiothink the "bzflag always looks like crap with garbled fonts on first run" is fixable?
14:25.56sussudioweeeeeird
14:26.04sussudioit doesnt segfault if compiled with debug :-P
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14:49.37bzbotServer is empty
14:57.07[TeA|TrEE]ibot ducati
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15:23.53ChestalMAC: do you know about the change team killing behaviour?
15:24.23ChestalMAC: you die and lose 2 points now when it's activated, is the latter on purpose?
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16:05.17Chestalthe MACs are multiplying!
16:05.36sussudioquick! turn it into a fishbowl!
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16:07.41bzbotWilinckx (G): 0 (0-0). merry (B): 1 (1-0). AllE (G): -1 (0-1).
16:07.55Wilinckxsnyke: join!
16:08.01snykehum?
16:08.06snykebut I cannot play
16:08.10Wilinckxme too :-(
16:08.16snykehm
16:08.23snyke;)
16:08.26snykeyeah
16:08.35snykenow comes the sucking part of bzfs-webmin :)
16:08.40snykeimport the bzfs-options =)
16:08.48snykeheh
16:08.49Wilinckxand and? made one? does it works nice?
16:08.56snykesure
16:09.01Wilinckxlet me c!
16:09.04snykecurrently working...
16:09.12Wilinckxok, np,
16:09.15snykethe inside isn't ready yet.
16:09.21snykebut you can view the mainpage
16:09.33snykehttp://happypenguin.bzflag.org/~nil/bzfs-webmin
16:10.23snykeI love the red message :)
16:10.28snykesounds so dangerous =)
16:11.35Wilinckxwtf? gs is taking a few hundred % cpu time?!
16:12.04WilinckxWhat is my computer doing???
16:12.29snykegs?
16:12.36Wilinckxow no, that was telnet, that top...
16:12.43Wilinckxit's mozilla that is taking %
16:12.47snykeoh
16:12.57snykehmm
16:12.59Wilinckxhm, that was a bed site :-(
16:13.07snyke? lol
16:13.09snykemine?
16:13.13snykethe bzfs-webmin?
16:13.16snykehope not
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16:13.57Wilinckxsnyke: heh, nono, my "desktop" pc
16:14.04snykeokay
16:14.05snyke:)
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16:42.00Wilinckxsnyke: u can also run bzfquery happypenguin.bzflag.org i think :-)
16:42.12Wilinckxbzfquery.pl
16:44.18Patlabor221you can query any IP or dns
16:46.47Wilinckxyep
16:50.10WilinckxLol: http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html
16:50.19snykeWilinckx: hmm kay
16:50.55Wilinckxsnyke: was just info
16:54.29snykebzfquery.pl?
16:55.35Wilinckxa program
16:55.42Wilinckxis by me installed by my bzflag...
16:56.02snykehm
16:58.49Patlabor221captain_proton: I need to make a button that links to the linuz bzedit. got anything you like on it?
16:59.18Wilinckxbtw, is linux bzedit runable on debian testing? (sarc)
17:00.03Patlabor221I think it depends on what version of bzedit
17:00.09Patlabor221there is one that needs gnome 2
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17:03.11Wilinckxhm, why do they depends on gnome??
17:03.19Wilinckxgtk is good enough, i think...
17:03.40Patlabor221hello BZFlag, do you mind if I link to the bzflag.org site witha  link button I made outa the title bar image ( well the sources of the title bar image) ?
17:03.54Patlabor221yes well it needs the gtk that gnome 2 uses
17:04.04Patlabor221I allways forget what each thing uses.
17:04.27chsh[]you guys should have a bdflag logo
17:04.27Patlabor221bzedit 2.0 uses the older gtk, 2.1 uses the newer gtk
17:04.30chsh[]*bzflag logo
17:04.36Wilinckxbut gtk 2 is not gnome, i thaugt?
17:04.59Patlabor221I think gnome uses it
17:05.12Wilinckxyeah, ok, but gtk2 doesn't use gnome, gnome use gtk2 :-)
17:05.26Patlabor221basicly bze 2.1 picks up all the neat gnome 2 interface stuff.
17:05.42Wilinckx:-( so I can't run it...
17:05.53Wilinckxbut why do they use gnome?
17:06.07Patlabor221I was wrong, it dosn't need gnome
17:06.21Wilinckxhm...
17:06.22Patlabor221it needs the gtk version that gnome 2 ueses
17:06.36Wilinckxic
17:07.02Patlabor221I just don't know what version that is
17:07.08Patlabor221but 2.0 dosn't need that
17:07.14Wilinckxaha. thx!
17:07.25WilinckxI'm going to download the 2.0 version :D
17:07.31Wilinckxbut first i have to go to eat....
17:07.32Patlabor221I have a link to the 2.0 tarballs on my site
17:07.37Wilinckxaha?
17:07.58Patlabor221www.artemisgames.com/bzedit
17:08.09Patlabor221link on left hand side, first one in the list.
17:08.14Wilinckxheey, i already went there :-)
17:08.34WilinckxIt's a good site
17:08.55Wilinckxonly the horizontal scrollbar.... <-- yeah, i really have to search something or what? ;-)
17:09.23Wilinckxand the "for windows" is ... OK, shut up myzelf ;-)
17:09.47Wilinckxk, i have to go to eat
17:09.47Wilinckxthx Patlabor221
17:10.15Patlabor221yes my site is only for the large monitor enabled
17:12.45BZFlagPatlabor221: don't mind. that would be great.
17:13.09BZFlagPatlabor221: also add outgoing links on the wiki links page.
17:14.15Patlabor221? to my page? it's allready there
17:14.16Patlabor221Here is the button
17:14.16Patlabor221http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/Images/bzflag.org.png
17:14.28Patlabor221I think it may be too dark
17:17.50BZFlagPatlabor221: it's fine.
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17:51.37Chestalhi Nicole, jolly
17:52.08jollyhey Ches
17:52.41Nicolelo people
18:00.57akira_moin chestal
18:01.01akira_gestern abend noch nen game
18:01.57Chestalnö
18:02.40Wilinckxheh? ./configure <-- perfect make <-- errors (bzedit4lin)
18:03.35Wilinckxui_list.h:4: gnome.h: No such file or directory <-- and ./configure works perfect... hm hm
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18:22.32Patlabor221looks like he is using gnome then
18:26.21sussudioabout 60MB of fucking gnome2 libs, yes
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18:56.18sussudiobah
18:57.36[TeA|]-[XP]m1 ey
18:57.40[TeA|]-[XP]123 :o)
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19:07.31Celllol, ant is cool
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19:12.46Cellnow i switched from ksh to tcsh
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19:40.22Cellhi, my next task is to create a compiler for Box language
19:41.01CellVBox
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19:41.02Cell;
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20:22.32BZFlaghttp://www.simulation.com/training/HLAintro/HLA_intro_outline.html
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20:26.41patlabor221_HLA?
20:29.22captain_protonpatlabor221_: bzedit requires gnome
20:29.37captain_protonjust the libs though, it doesn't need gnome running
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20:30.22patlabor221_that's what I thought
20:30.31patlabor221_but people keep telling me I'm wrong
20:30.57captain_protonprogram = gnome_program_init("bzedit", "3.0", LIBGNOMEUI_MODULE, argc, argv, NULL);
20:31.14patlabor221_you weren't here so I made an icon with a penguinin it for lin bze
20:31.24patlabor221_hope you don't mind
20:31.35captain_protonpenguin? gah
20:32.03patlabor221_what you you like it to be
20:32.14captain_protondunno
20:32.17captain_protonbut that penguin is dumb
20:32.33patlabor221_that it is
20:32.59patlabor221_I figured dumb would make you pick something faster :)
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20:33.28patlabor221_noone had freakin link buttons so I had to make my own for everyone
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20:35.23Sniper50hi
20:35.44ak|rahi sniper
20:35.58Sniper50Hi Akira
20:36.49Sniper50my bzflag games are over
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20:40.10captain_protonVNC needs a rootless mode
20:40.11BZFlagpatlabor221_: lost your caps huh? ;-) HLA is the simulation environment the US military uses. They have done some work on bzflag networking. ;-)
20:40.35patlabor221_that's where I had seen it
20:40.54patlabor221_have a book on realtime networked virtual enviroements
20:41.06captain_protonBZFlag: they've worked on the networking and its -still- this bad?
20:41.07patlabor221_it sounded soo familiar
20:56.10BZFlagcaptain_proton: they have not submitted anything to date.
20:56.58BZFlaganyone read the article in lj about the video room? I'd love to see bzf running there. ;-)
20:57.54BZFlag"Linux Powers Four-Wall 3-D Display" not online... =(
20:59.38patlabor221_the "cave" things
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21:58.18patlabor221_captain_proton: how did your meeting go last night?
21:58.27captain_pistachiquite well
21:58.49patlabor221_they were interested?
21:58.59captain_pistachithey were pretty quiet after our demo...
22:00.19patlabor221_murmuring?
22:00.49captain_pistachijust quiet
22:01.03captain_pistachiand then the 'president' of the club decided not to do his demo
22:01.24patlabor221_I see
22:01.32patlabor221_what was his stuff?
22:01.40captain_pistachihe has some silly RPG vaporware
22:02.24patlabor221_good RPGs are a bitch to make
22:03.18captain_pistachiapparently at the beginning of the year he tried to recruit scanline - and suggesting a closed-source windows-only patented project to scanline is a bad idea :)
22:03.35patlabor221_that it is
22:03.55captain_pistachithe python stuff we've got going is so nifty :)
22:04.03patlabor221_I think you should only go closed when someone is going to give you an assload of money to make it.
22:04.15captain_pistachiyep
22:05.03patlabor221_I kinda like how the guy who did cube did it
22:05.36patlabor221_it's not realy "open source", in that he dosn't take changes back into the code, unless it's from his team, or he reviews it first.
22:05.48patlabor221_but he has full source avalable to those who want it.
22:06.20patlabor221_he just changes his server "key" in the source releases, so that you know what servers are running "Virgin" and what ones are moded
22:06.38captain_pistachigpl can sorta work that way too, the project leader can run it however they want
22:06.54patlabor221_yah
22:07.32captain_pistachiwow, another soul showing his face at the office
22:07.47patlabor221_?
22:08.01captain_pistachioop he left
22:08.04captain_pistachii'm the only one here
22:08.26captain_pistachibecause tomorrow the university goes on break for thanksgiving
22:08.31patlabor221_ahhh yed
22:09.57captain_pistachii need coffee
22:11.36captain_pistachihmm, perhaps over break i'll write a scene graph system
22:11.47captain_pistachiand i won't compile it until i get back :)
22:11.53captain_pistachis/compile/run/
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23:28.41patlabor221_this is going to be the most powerfull and most misunderstod feature of bzedit I have ever made  ftp://ftp.gibbscam.com/pub/outgoing/vizkit/dupeand.png
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23:36.50jzaunwell took all day but the server is repaied... just need to get it back to the ISP sometime tomarrow
23:44.29patlabor221_what had hapend to it?
23:47.54jzaunsomeone put a rootkit on it
23:48.17jzaunanyone know what     Nov  2 23:35:56 jzaun kernel: audit-scpIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:20:af:9e:ec:09:00:30:7b:87:c0:00:08:00 SRC=216.228.97.57 DST=205.201.58.40 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=48 ID=43272 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=5156 DPT=3029 WINDOW=5792 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0     would mean?
23:50.22patlabor221_what is a rootkit?
23:50.54jzaunmean whomever installed it had compleat administrative controle over my computer remotely
23:51.03patlabor221_icky
23:51.14jzaunyes very
23:51.16patlabor221_then they proceded to futz it up I take it
23:51.30jzaunI formated and reinstalled everything to make sure that nothing was left corrupted
23:51.42jzaunthat or DoS other computers...
23:52.02patlabor221_how did they get it installed? dosn't that require some form of execute access?
23:52.33jzaunthrew a bug int httpd, imapd or bzfs. Thats all that was running
23:52.55jzaunmost likely httpd or impad
23:53.25patlabor221_can you keep it from hapening again?
23:53.32jzaunyes and no
23:53.58jzaunI've got the reinstalled box very tightly sealed, and updated to the latest of everything its running
23:54.14jzaunI also uninstalled everything thats not being used my me
23:54.47patlabor221_but in thery there could be bugs that noone has found yet
23:58.17jzaunpatlabor221_: I ignored you acidentally... I missed anything you typed sence my last message
23:58.30patlabor221_well it was just one thing :)
23:58.45patlabor221_but there could be ubgs that noone knows about right?
23:58.51jzaunyah
23:58.58patlabor221_that sucks
23:59.18jzaunthere is no 100% secure system, unless its in a sealed box that noone - including you - can get to
23:59.35patlabor221_yeah
23:59.54patlabor221_I've allways wonderd if the opensourceness of linux makes it easyer to do that kinda stuff tho

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