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| 00:19.59 | BZFlag | Chestal: headed home. sup? |
| 00:20.12 | BZFlag | ~bzflist |
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| 00:25.06 | ak|ra | re |
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| 00:41.21 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: you here? |
| 00:41.25 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah |
| 00:41.59 | Patlabor221 | can you tell me what you think of this ftp://ftp.gibbscam.com/pub/outgoing/vizkit/NewLayout.png |
| 00:42.59 | Patlabor221 | instead of the current horibly bland site. |
| 00:44.11 | captain_proton | thats a cool tank upper right |
| 00:44.46 | Patlabor221 | well it should be |
| 00:44.51 | Patlabor221 | that's the nomal tank |
| 00:45.54 | captain_proton | you need to do some smooth lighting on that tank tho |
| 00:46.45 | Patlabor221 | actualy I wanted to do it flat, so it looked more computery |
| 00:47.36 | captain_proton | can you do a render of the tank from the same angle with smooth lighting, to make it blend from smooth to flat to wireframe? :) |
| 00:48.01 | Patlabor221 | probably |
| 00:48.18 | Patlabor221 | but other then that how is the rest of it? |
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| 00:48.28 | Patlabor221 | I can change the tank at any time. |
| 00:48.37 | Patlabor221 | ohhhhhh I should make it a random tank :) |
| 00:49.06 | captain_proton | well overall the title section is too large |
| 00:49.16 | captain_proton | and the color scheme is icky |
| 00:49.19 | GuyFawkes | Ahoi :-) |
| 00:49.21 | captain_proton | but its a good layout |
| 00:51.05 | Patlabor221 | what parts of the colors are icky |
| 00:52.29 | captain_proton | overuse of the dark green, the turquoise |
| 01:12.47 | ak|ra | j #gentoo |
| 01:34.01 | Patlabor221 | what's wrong with green? :) |
| 01:34.07 | Patlabor221 | acrualy I ahd a pifiany :) |
| 01:34.23 | Patlabor221 | make the page come up with a random team color |
| 01:44.39 | Widget | Oooh... Conservatives sweep Austrian elections. |
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| 03:44.38 | hal3r | lo all! |
| 03:46.05 | Patlabor221 | ok who want's to comment |
| 03:46.06 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/ |
| 03:46.23 | ak|ra | patty |
| 03:46.30 | captain_proton | halo: you see my comment over in the other? |
| 03:46.50 | ak|ra | how do i find out that vc7 is compiling? |
| 03:46.57 | halo | yes, its the stream when you click on the link |
| 03:47.05 | ak|ra | _MSC something? |
| 03:47.05 | captain_proton | halo: my next comment |
| 03:47.19 | halo | cap, didnt see it |
| 03:47.22 | halo | cap |
| 03:47.25 | halo | bah |
| 03:47.58 | halo | lol, i saw it now |
| 03:48.17 | captain_proton | :) |
| 03:48.26 | captain_proton | i'd guess its from her upcoming cd |
| 03:48.31 | halo | aye |
| 03:48.57 | halo | that is a good sign either way :p |
| 03:48.59 | Patlabor221 | akira: what do you mean? |
| 03:49.58 | halo | captain_proton: ill be at home on about 30 min, cya soon!!! |
| 03:50.03 | halo | bye all |
| 03:56.05 | ak|ra | Patlabor221: wanne compile with vc7 -> have to #ifndef some stuff for the crappy vc6 .. so i want ditinguish |
| 03:56.19 | Patlabor221 | ohh |
| 03:56.30 | Patlabor221 | i's gonna be a vers thing |
| 03:56.32 | Patlabor221 | one sec |
| 03:56.44 | ak|ra | its start with _MSC or something like that |
| 03:57.03 | Patlabor221 | yeah I thinks it's _MSC_VERS >= 7 |
| 03:57.03 | ak|ra | perhaps a #if (_MSC < xyz ) |
| 03:57.14 | Patlabor221 | I know it has VERS |
| 03:57.16 | Patlabor221 | in it |
| 03:57.34 | ak|ra | could be |
| 03:57.51 | Patlabor221 | I just can't find it right now |
| 04:02.32 | sussudio | hm noodleroni on crack |
| 04:07.17 | ak|ra | ill ask google |
| 04:07.42 | ak|ra | did i mentioned i hate the stl of vc6? |
| 04:12.24 | ak|ra | http://www.research.att.com/lists/uwin-users/1999/11/msg00028.html |
| 04:14.30 | Patlabor221 | yes it does suck in 6 |
| 04:14.51 | ak|ra | but not only a bit |
| 04:14.55 | ak|ra | it sucks all |
| 04:34.19 | Patlabor221 | ahh it's nice to have a unified site again |
| 04:38.58 | ak|ra | :) |
| 04:39.38 | ak|ra | did i mentioned i hate code from others? :) |
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| 06:42.25 | sussudio | cheatbot...... 219.110.57.13 |
| 07:12.04 | MrApathyCream | doobeedoo |
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| 07:43.36 | bomber_ | moin |
| 07:52.47 | scandir | tga |
| 07:52.49 | scandir | tag |
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| 07:54.33 | scandir | ? |
| 07:54.46 | scandir | whos apathy? |
| 07:55.57 | scandir | oooh it's real late: 11pm here-off too bed |
| 08:05.47 | sussudio | ibot bzflist |
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| 09:05.01 | ak|ra | moin |
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| 09:06.21 | Pinguin | mojn akira |
| 09:07.11 | ak|ra | hey .. na? |
| 09:07.18 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 09:07.20 | ak|ra | alles gruen bei euch? |
| 09:07.23 | Pinguin | ja |
| 09:07.25 | ak|ra | aaaaaahhh .. das smile :) |
| 09:07.44 | Pinguin | bomber's compaq wollte zuerst nix machen ... |
| 09:07.47 | ak|ra | haste mal probiert, ob er mp3s spielt? |
| 09:07.51 | ak|ra | Pinguin: woran lags? |
| 09:07.54 | Pinguin | Speicher war etwas locker ... |
| 09:07.57 | ak|ra | ah |
| 09:07.58 | ak|ra | sorry |
| 09:08.02 | ak|ra | transport bestimmt |
| 09:08.09 | Pinguin | kien problem ... transport wahrscheinlich ... |
| 09:08.30 | Pinguin | mp3 habe ich nicht geprüft ... organisiere mir noch eine Soundkarte ... |
| 09:08.35 | ak|ra | ah |
| 09:08.55 | ak|ra | ok, also ich hatte damals auf nem 486er arge problem mit mp3 decodieren |
| 09:09.04 | Pinguin | ich auch!!! |
| 09:09.24 | ak|ra | aber nen p135 sollte damit keine probleme haben |
| 09:09.49 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 09:10.12 | Pinguin | buecher.de oder amazon.de ? |
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| 09:10.21 | bomber_ | hi hi hi |
| 09:10.21 | Pinguin | ah ... bomberchen ... |
| 09:10.32 | ak|ra | moin bomber |
| 09:10.36 | bomber_ | und wie war die fahrt |
| 09:10.38 | ak|ra | na, alles gluecklich? :) |
| 09:11.01 | bomber_ | alles ok..:o))) super root-password |
| 09:11.29 | ak|ra | hab ich den gesperrt? nenen ? |
| 09:12.08 | bomber_ | :o)) ne...war ziemlich einfach |
| 09:13.26 | ak|ra | ausser dem ram ... was pingu grade gemeint hat |
| 09:13.39 | bomber_ | alles ist ok |
| 09:13.59 | bomber_ | auch der linux mit dem pinguin |
| 09:15.43 | ak|ra | auch der linux ? |
| 09:16.01 | ak|ra | war auf der platte noch was drauf? |
| 09:16.26 | bomber_ | ja :o))))))) |
| 09:16.29 | bomber_ | linux |
| 09:16.34 | ak|ra | ahso .. genau .. nen vectorlinux .. |
| 09:16.45 | ak|ra | den rechner hatte ich ja mal fuer meine freundin vorgesehe ... |
| 09:16.54 | bomber_ | :o))))))))))))) |
| 09:17.04 | ak|ra | bis sie sich nen anderen gekauft hatte |
| 09:17.12 | ak|ra | p2 330 mit 196 ram :) |
| 09:18.36 | ak|ra | also seid ihr jetzt beide zufrieden? |
| 09:18.59 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 09:20.26 | ak|ra | bomber? |
| 09:21.00 | Pinguin | bo,ber? |
| 09:23.05 | bomber_ | ja |
| 09:23.09 | bomber_ | :o) |
| 09:24.14 | ak|ra | gut, dann sind wir fertig miteinander |
| 09:26.33 | Pinguin | bomber? |
| 09:26.50 | Pinguin | eieiei ... |
| 09:27.58 | sussudio | schweinhund |
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| 09:32.29 | ak|ra | Pinguin: dann kann ich also wie gebannt auf eine mail warten? *freu* |
| 09:51.22 | ak|ra | ak|ra|afk |
| 10:25.04 | sussudio | ibot bzflist |
| 10:25.44 | Pinguin | akira: ja ... |
| 10:25.58 | ak|ra | *huepf* |
| 10:28.33 | Pinguin | Akira: sag bitte mal "Bescheid" wenn die EMail korrekt ankommt ... |
| 10:28.37 | bomber_ | ibot ducati? |
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| 10:28.39 | bzbot | [dmp] (G): 0 (1-1). Terminator (R): 0 (1-1). |
| 10:28.48 | ak|ra | ist sie unterwegs? |
| 10:28.55 | Pinguin | ja |
| 10:29.24 | Pinguin | brb ... |
| 10:30.12 | ak|ra | ok, bis jetzt nix da |
| 11:05.50 | Pinguin | Hm ... ich habe schon eine Bestätigung ... |
| 11:16.46 | sussudio | ibot bzflist |
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| 12:02.29 | ak|ra | moin gerbil |
| 12:02.30 | gerbil | Hellooo? |
| 12:02.35 | gerbil | nhi |
| 12:02.50 | gerbil | anybody know how to make a hypetext link in an xml document? |
| 12:03.16 | gerbil | <gee,sotalkative here> |
| 12:03.18 | ak|ra | www.w3c.org :) |
| 12:03.26 | gerbil | oh haha--thank you for the help |
| 12:03.43 | gerbil | I jusrt got through wading through all the debate about how to do it there |
| 12:03.56 | gerbil | I can't find a stupid,simple exampleof one |
| 12:04.20 | gerbil | I thought you guys were all geniuses here? |
| 12:04.52 | gerbil | I have a bzflag use for it :) |
| 12:04.55 | ak|ra | wait |
| 12:04.57 | gerbil | k |
| 12:04.58 | ak|ra | hehe |
| 12:05.07 | ak|ra | i dont need your bzflag skills :) got my own :))) |
| 12:05.27 | gerbil | muwahahaha--paltry and pathertic next tomy greatnes |
| 12:05.38 | gerbil | <cant type either> |
| 12:07.34 | ak|ra | :) |
| 12:07.46 | ak|ra | you wanne realize a http link in your xml file |
| 12:07.46 | gerbil | still here |
| 12:07.51 | gerbil | yes |
| 12:08.08 | gerbil | ni have a "child"statement that needs to be a hyperlink |
| 12:08.19 | ak|ra | question: you wann xhtml? |
| 12:08.30 | ak|ra | or is it a pure xml file with your own dtd ? |
| 12:08.31 | gerbil | well--its in a pure xmllink |
| 12:08.52 | gerbil | and apparently theres some confusion about how to make an xml child an xhtml hyperlink |
| 12:09.16 | gerbil | its an xml document linked to a flash file |
| 12:09.21 | ak|ra | ah |
| 12:09.46 | gerbil | I have a text read just want to add hyperlinks |
| 12:09.53 | gerbil | in text display |
| 12:11.18 | gerbil | can i paste into this? |
| 12:12.20 | ak|ra | nope |
| 12:12.31 | ak|ra | i try to find it but totally new to xml :) |
| 12:12.45 | ak|ra | but want to use xml for my raytracer :) |
| 12:14.23 | gerbil | <imageNode jpegURL="images/image5.jpg">XXXXXXXX</imageNode> |
| 12:14.30 | gerbil | thats the child statement |
| 12:14.38 | gerbil | the x's are where text displays |
| 12:14.48 | gerbil | its a link in the xml to a pic |
| 12:15.04 | gerbil | but i am not sure how to make the text a link without breaking the child |
| 12:15.27 | gerbil | same her on the TOTALLY new to xmlthing |
| 12:15.44 | ak|ra | :)) |
| 12:16.17 | gerbil | I though by learnimng flash I would be safe from having tolearn xml |
| 12:16.18 | gerbil | nsigh |
| 12:16.42 | ak|ra | :) |
| 12:17.24 | gerbil | well...ifyou SHOULD happen to run across a clear, concise explanation of how to make a link within a child statement let me know |
| 12:17.32 | gerbil | grrrrr |
| 12:17.33 | ak|ra | mail? |
| 12:17.35 | gerbil | arggh |
| 12:17.37 | gerbil | naugh |
| 12:17.47 | gerbil | worldstrider@hotmail.com |
| 12:18.00 | gerbil | <I'mbetter now> |
| 12:18.39 | gerbil | Also, I have become so onsessed with BZ I have to live it out now--I'm going to the nat'l guard armpory... |
| 12:18.47 | gerbil | onsessed=obsessed |
| 12:18.56 | gerbil | and "borrowing" a tank. |
| 12:19.04 | ak|ra | :) |
| 12:19.07 | ak|ra | cu later man |
| 12:19.10 | gerbil | Watch CNN, I should be on about this evening or so |
| 12:19.13 | gerbil | later |
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| 12:56.12 | snyke | bzfquerylong happypenguin.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 12:56.13 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 12:56.17 | snyke | hum |
| 13:11.32 | bomber_ | ibot ducati? |
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| 14:14.52 | chsh[] | ibot captain_proton |
| 14:14.53 | | [captain_proton] Mr. Aphenphosmphobia |
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| 14:28.18 | [dmp] | i'm new to nickserv :) |
| 14:33.37 | chsh[] | hmm |
| 14:33.46 | chsh[] | sounds like MrApathyCream and captain_proton have somethin kinky goin on |
| 14:33.52 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 14:36.08 | chsh[] | hehe |
| 14:36.20 | chsh[] | given how much he brags about himself, I don't think that's it. |
| 14:56.10 | Chestal | hmm, Tim's latest change to CVS seems a bit suspicious to me |
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| 15:00.55 | prodan | anybody for a game of ducati? |
| 15:02.58 | bomber_ | prodan: go to work :o)) |
| 15:03.09 | sussudio | yeah, schweinhund |
| 15:03.13 | sussudio | (with no e) |
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| 15:15.34 | akira_ | re |
| 15:15.40 | rooter | hello |
| 15:18.03 | sussudio | HELLO |
| 15:18.07 | sussudio | HAS ANYONE SEEN MY CAPSLOCK KEY |
| 15:19.58 | bomber_ | yes was somewhere between Tokio and NewYork |
| 15:20.14 | sussudio | 13,1darn |
| 15:20.14 | rooter | right next to your "any" key |
| 15:20.27 | prodan | ibot insult sussudio |
| 15:20.42 | bomber_ | :o) |
| 15:21.24 | sussudio | 2,1p3,1r4,1o5,1za6,1c s7,1ch8,1w9,1e10,1i11,1n12,1h13,1u14,1n15,1d |
| 15:22.34 | prodan | anybody for ducati? |
| 15:22.38 | akira_ | and put sus again on ignore seems to be the only way to get some rest |
| 15:22.40 | akira_ | not me |
| 15:23.28 | sussudio | schweinhund |
| 15:24.11 | ak|ra|work | mich wundert bei ihm gar nix mehr |
| 15:24.57 | prodan | schweiz 13. |
| 15:24.59 | Chestal | yes, but we are great at geography :-) |
| 15:25.03 | prodan | usa 18 |
| 15:25.08 | prodan | germany 19 |
| 15:25.15 | sussudio | average iq? |
| 15:25.36 | prodan | one neuron more than a chicken (so they dont poop in the kitchen) |
| 15:26.17 | sussudio | why is unicef doing school tests anyway |
| 15:26.18 | ak|ra|work | Chestal: :) |
| 15:26.37 | ak|ra|work | prodan: read about the geographical test for ami-kids? |
| 15:26.44 | prodan | it is the great UN conspiracy to waste US taxpayers money. |
| 15:26.54 | ak|ra|work | 85 percent of us-kids doesnt know where iraq is |
| 15:27.08 | ak|ra|work | 15 percent couldnt locate their own country on a map |
| 15:27.10 | sussudio | when was the last time the US paid their UN contribution? |
| 15:27.11 | prodan | 87 percent |
| 15:27.24 | ak|ra|work | or something like that :) |
| 15:27.26 | bomber_ | ibot ducati? |
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| 15:27.27 | bzbot | bzlynx (R): 2 (16-14). root (G): 5 (14-9). |
| 15:27.31 | prodan | sussudio: 1832 |
| 15:27.45 | prodan | http://www.unicef-icdc.org |
| 15:28.28 | ak|ra|work | prodan: i read this from the geographicaly society or something like that some days before |
| 15:29.34 | sussudio | those are some ugly kids |
| 15:37.07 | sussudio | they sure like graphs |
| 15:43.14 | sussudio | hmm |
| 15:43.36 | sussudio | there's like 8 people with the same netblock on noodleroni |
| 15:44.30 | sussudio | 170.211.114.0 Arkansas Public School Network dcs.state.ar.us |
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| 15:52.20 | anaconda | hi |
| 15:52.48 | sussudio | HeLLo |
| 15:53.55 | sussudio | HaVe You WaLKeD YouR SCHWeiNHuND YeT? |
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| 16:04.32 | [TeA|]-[XP] | ibot ducati |
| 16:04.32 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:04.33 | bzbot | MakosTeszta (R): 8 (70-62). elgen (R): -5 (7-12). root (G): -11 (77-88). prodan (penguins) (G): 8 (22-14). john (G): -79 (14-93). Armitage (R): -8 (2-10). @bomber (B): 0 (0-0). kiezer (G): -14 (21-35). lupinator (R): 20 (41-21). |
| 16:05.38 | ak|ra|work | hi anaconda |
| 16:07.07 | anaconda | hi ak|ra|work |
| 16:08.48 | captain_proton | garf |
| 16:09.07 | anaconda | ak|ra|work: akira, hi hi;-) |
| 16:09.38 | ak|ra|work | wasn? |
| 16:09.55 | anaconda | wie kommst du auf diesen namen? |
| 16:10.48 | bomber_ | Pinguin: schmeiise Simovic weg |
| 16:11.21 | bomber_ | Tea? |
| 16:11.40 | ak|ra|work | druch den manga? |
| 16:11.48 | ak|ra|work | pinguins .. lets play a bit later? |
| 16:11.53 | ak|ra|work | ich bin grade arbeiten |
| 16:11.54 | ak|ra|work | ... |
| 16:12.00 | bomber_ | match um 19:00 ?? |
| 16:12.07 | bomber_ | ich bin nicht da |
| 16:12.11 | prodan | hab auch jetzt zeit |
| 16:12.17 | prodan | kein seminar |
| 16:12.19 | bomber_ | ach soooo |
| 16:12.25 | bomber_ | dann spielen wir |
| 16:12.33 | ak|ra|work | also? |
| 16:12.38 | prodan | okj |
| 16:12.45 | ak|ra|work | seids zu dritt? |
| 16:12.51 | ak|ra|work | bomber_: danke fuer die grusskarte :) |
| 16:13.00 | bomber_ | :o)))) |
| 16:13.01 | prodan | welchen port? |
| 16:13.04 | prodan | wann |
| 16:13.11 | ak|ra|work | na, 19:00 |
| 16:13.16 | prodan | bomber? |
| 16:13.24 | prodan | 19:00 |
| 16:13.33 | prodan | oder jetzt? |
| 16:13.37 | bomber_ | ich bin nicht da |
| 16:13.43 | prodan | und jetzt? |
| 16:13.43 | bomber_ | um 19:00 |
| 16:13.50 | bomber_ | akira kann nicht |
| 16:13.52 | ak|ra|work | also ich bin jetz arbeiten und komm hier erstmal auch nicht weg |
| 16:13.59 | ak|ra|work | <- man siehts am nickname |
| 16:14.09 | bomber_ | aber um 19:00 vielleicht mit Tea |
| 16:14.18 | prodan | TeA??????? |
| 16:14.20 | prodan | hallo |
| 16:14.25 | bomber_ | TEAAAAAAAAA |
| 16:14.31 | prodan | ich bin mal bei ducati ueben |
| 16:14.46 | bomber_ | ok you need it |
| 16:14.49 | prodan | voll |
| 16:14.52 | bomber_ | :o) |
| 16:14.54 | Chestal | ah, hier seid ihr |
| 16:15.03 | prodan | kann doch |
| 16:15.05 | prodan | jetzt |
| 16:15.17 | bomber_ | aber akira kann nicht |
| 16:15.25 | prodan | will nicht |
| 16:15.30 | prodan | arbeit, peh |
| 16:15.39 | Chestal | hmm, lupi+ich sidn recht flexibel |
| 16:15.39 | prodan | ;_) |
| 16:15.48 | Chestal | tank kann aber wohl erst spaeter |
| 16:15.56 | bomber_ | ich kann bis 18:30 |
| 16:15.57 | prodan | Pinguin? |
| 16:16.25 | bomber_ | Pinguin ist nicht im Buero |
| 16:16.42 | bomber_ | aber wenn er kommt solte sich melden |
| 16:16.45 | Pinguin | bomber? |
| 16:16.47 | bomber_ | :o) |
| 16:16.50 | bomber_ | heß |
| 16:16.54 | bomber_ | hahaha |
| 16:17.05 | bomber_ | Pinguin 19:00 match |
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| 16:17.08 | Pinguin | uff |
| 16:17.09 | bomber_ | gegen Moles |
| 16:17.14 | Pinguin | uff |
| 16:17.25 | ak|ra|work | Chestal: ich bin ab 1900 auch flexibel |
| 16:17.29 | ak|ra|work | fuer 1 match :) |
| 16:17.35 | bomber_ | hast du 1 stunde zu trenieren |
| 16:17.36 | ak|ra|work | danach muss ich wahrscheinlich weiterziehen |
| 16:17.41 | Pinguin | uff uff uff |
| 16:18.00 | Chestal | Comanche ist ja so kurzfristig nicht erreichbar |
| 16:18.15 | bomber_ | Pinguin,root,prodan |
| 16:18.18 | bomber_ | prodan? |
| 16:18.18 | Chestal | ich muss jetzt erstmal was essen, bin ganz ausgehungert |
| 16:18.23 | prodan | ok |
| 16:18.30 | lupinator | tank kann erfahrungsgemaess erst ab 20:30 oder so |
| 16:18.32 | prodan | welchen port |
| 16:18.33 | bomber_ | vielleicht Tea |
| 16:18.59 | prodan | ibot ducati |
| 16:19.00 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:19.00 | bzbot | MakosTeszta (R): 14 (104-90). elgen (R): 0 (41-41). root (G): -7 (109-116). john (G): -112 (21-133). Armitage (R): -4 (26-30). bzlynx (G): -4 (7-11). Riggs (G): -2 (12-14). |
| 16:19.12 | Chestal | notfalls ginge ja vielleicht auch 2-2 |
| 16:19.24 | lupinator | das is ja nobel |
| 16:19.33 | prodan | oder 2-3 |
| 16:19.39 | bomber_ | haha |
| 16:19.43 | bomber_ | gut |
| 16:19.54 | bomber_ | 2 moles : 3 penguins |
| 16:20.07 | prodan | oder 2-4 wenn pinguin mitmacht |
| 16:20.20 | prodan | dann aber 5 spiele |
| 16:20.25 | lupinator | wenn die punkte dann 3:2 gewertet werden... |
| 16:20.29 | prodan | punkte zaehlen doppelt |
| 16:20.35 | prodan | fur uns |
| 16:20.47 | ak|ra|work | wasn los pingu? angst? |
| 16:20.56 | Pinguin | bisschen .. |
| 16:20.59 | ak|ra|work | brauchste doch nicht .. wir sind alle voellig eingerostet und alterschwach |
| 16:21.00 | rooter | hmmmm |
| 16:21.03 | ak|ra|work | sehen tun wir auch nix mehr |
| 16:21.04 | bomber_ | Pinguin hat lange nicht treniert |
| 16:21.29 | prodan | ich auch nicht |
| 16:21.38 | bomber_ | ich auch nicht |
| 16:21.40 | prodan | 25min |
| 16:21.54 | lupinator | ich besauf mich auch bis dahin |
| 16:23.23 | ak|ra|work | *gg* |
| 16:23.37 | ak|ra|work | aber coffeinentzug ... also wirkts |
| 16:23.41 | prodan | ibot ducati |
| 16:23.42 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:23.42 | bzbot | elgen (R): 5 (54-49). lolita (G): 3 (5-2). john (G): -122 (23-145). Armitage (R): -10 (37-47). Fluffy (G): 0 (10-10). |
| 16:23.51 | prodan | geh mal ducati |
| 16:23.55 | prodan | spaeter |
| 16:23.57 | bomber_ | me too |
| 16:23.58 | ak|ra|work | cya |
| 16:24.05 | ak|ra|work | ich geh runter zur cave :) |
| 16:24.14 | ak|ra|work | bzflag in ECHT3d :)) |
| 16:27.25 | Pinguin | ibot ducati? |
| 16:27.29 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:27.30 | bzbot | bomber (G): 0 (8-8). elgen (R): 3 (61-58). lolita (G): 2 (13-11). prodan (penguins) (R): -2 (9-11). john (G): -126 (28-154). Armitage (R): -16 (41-57). Fluffy (G): 4 (24-20). Sadista Muff (R): 5 (9-4). |
| 16:28.07 | ak|ra|work | lupinator: kennst du elgen? |
| 16:28.53 | lupinator | akira: von ducati, ja. aber nicht wirklich |
| 16:29.17 | ak|ra|work | der is nich schlecht |
| 16:29.23 | ak|ra|work | vielleicht is es mal wieder nen faker? |
| 16:29.51 | lupinator | kann gut sein |
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| 16:52.51 | anaconda | faker? was ist denn das? jemand der unter verschiedenen Nicks spielt? |
| 16:53.00 | ak|ra|work | richtig |
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| 16:55.38 | ak|ra|work | hello patty |
| 16:55.49 | ak|ra|work | _MSC_VER >= 1300 -> visual7 |
| 16:55.56 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:55.59 | Patlabor221 | 1300? |
| 16:56.01 | Patlabor221 | 1.3? |
| 16:56.02 | ak|ra|work | fact |
| 16:56.04 | ak|ra|work | yes |
| 16:56.09 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 16:56.21 | ak|ra|work | thats the number of visual studio .net |
| 16:56.29 | Patlabor221 | should be 7.0 |
| 16:56.39 | Patlabor221 | it's called VC7 |
| 16:57.14 | ak|ra|work | claim m$ |
| 16:57.22 | ak|ra|work | vc6 -> 1100 or 1200 ... |
| 16:57.31 | Patlabor221 | that' makes no sense |
| 16:57.40 | Patlabor221 | then I don't know |
| 16:58.00 | Patlabor221 | just put a predefine in the VC7 project |
| 16:58.09 | Patlabor221 | then test against that |
| 16:58.40 | ak|ra|work | Patlabor221: its an fact :) |
| 16:58.46 | ak|ra|work | its working right now |
| 16:59.03 | Patlabor221 | bizare |
| 16:59.08 | ak|ra|work | and i have asked people who did portable coding all the day and know a lot of compilers |
| 16:59.22 | ak|ra|work | Patlabor221: bizare -> win32 :) |
| 16:59.25 | Patlabor221 | must be some compiler verison |
| 17:00.02 | prodan | ibot ducati |
| 17:00.02 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:00.04 | bzbot | bomber (G): 54 (114-60). [TeA] (R): -9 (2-11). lolita (G): 4 (83-79). Boum! (G): 0 (0-0). Pinguin (R): -13 (19-32). |
| 17:00.14 | ak|ra|work | first i thought -> release times 2 -> so vc4 ->800 vc5 -> 1000 vc6 -> 1200 |
| 17:00.18 | ak|ra|work | but not true :)) |
| 17:00.39 | scanline | http://picogui.org/download/jetengine_test3.png |
| 17:01.50 | ak|ra|work | :) |
| 17:02.15 | ak|ra|work | try to add fog for the hard background / ground break |
| 17:02.42 | scanline | nah, the world is completely flat |
| 17:03.17 | scanline | it's just using a stand-in terrain object, we'll have something based on ROAM later |
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| 17:15.57 | scanline | ha |
| 17:17.31 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (alton@pD9E504EB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:17.43 | Cell | oink |
| 17:19.55 | Cell | log on to diploma main exams was damn difficult |
| 17:20.00 | bomber_ | ibot ducati? |
| 17:20.00 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:20.01 | bzbot | elgen (G): 11 (16-5). Boum! (G): 1 (7-6). [meq] freelancer (G): 16 (20-4). Pinguin (R): -27 (23-50). Vince (R): -23 (25-48). |
| 17:21.26 | Cell | can i create a UML one way association (how?) or is it called something else? |
| 17:22.08 | Cell | seems to have to do smth with navigation |
| 17:22.25 | captain_proton | so apparently we were supposed to make a crib sheet for this "test" (perhaps i should attend this class more often, i'd learn such things). i still walk out of there before anyone else is more than two-thirds finished |
| 17:23.40 | Cell | crip sheet , whats that? |
| 17:23.45 | scanline | morning captain_proton |
| 17:23.59 | captain_proton | Cell: a little sheet with equations & stuff written on it |
| 17:24.08 | Cell | ah k |
| 17:24.14 | captain_proton | scanline: where is your source tree for that beautiful screenshot? :) |
| 17:24.40 | scanline | oh wait, I'm working on the main menu now |
| 17:24.46 | Cell | captain_proton: does it mean u are so quick |
| 17:25.17 | captain_proton | Cell: i think mostly that effect is due to the (ahem) shall-we-say, less than average intelligence of the rest of the class |
| 17:25.41 | ak|ra|work | lupinator: Chestal ich geh in den pool und verlasse meinen wirkungsbereich jetzt ... |
| 17:25.50 | scanline | captain_proton: tis committed. you'll want to update your cli_python also |
| 17:26.23 | captain_proton | they're gorgeous :) |
| 17:26.36 | scanline | thanks |
| 17:26.42 | captain_proton | hmm, i'll code until my next class, then after that i have to work on this music |
| 17:26.54 | scanline | I have a class in 30 minutes.. two of them actually |
| 17:27.31 | captain_proton | cvs add speedometer_32.png |
| 17:27.38 | scanline | oops |
| 17:28.16 | scanline | committed |
| 17:28.33 | rooter | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.34 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:28.35 | bzbot | elgen (R): 1 (8-7). Boum! (G): -5 (18-23). [meq] freelancer (G): 32 (50-18). calico (R): 2 (3-1). test (R): -2 (0-2). |
| 17:29.40 | captain_proton | hrm, python sadness |
| 17:29.54 | scanline | hrm? |
| 17:30.00 | captain_proton | File "script/hud.py", line 9, in __init__ |
| 17:30.00 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.00 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.00 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.00 | captain_proton | AttributeError: newTemplate |
| 17:30.06 | scanline | update your cli_python |
| 17:30.23 | scanline | I added a new class to it to make widget templates easier |
| 17:30.36 | captain_proton | ah |
| 17:31.30 | captain_proton | whats the unnecessary delay for? :) |
| 17:31.48 | scanline | seems to keep the two threads from fighting over the python interpreter lock |
| 17:32.26 | Cell | opemgl stack underflow error, damn me |
| 17:32.49 | Cell | where |
| 17:33.26 | rooter | ibot ducati? |
| 17:33.26 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:33.27 | bzbot | elgen (R): 6 (17-11). Boum! (G): -2 (1-3). [meq] freelancer (G): 31 (60-29). Saibo......!!!!!!! (G): -4 (4-8). calico (R): 10 (19-9). Chestal (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 17:33.29 | scanline | captain_proton: I'm getting a solid 450 or so frames per second |
| 17:33.34 | scanline | at 640x480 |
| 17:34.22 | bomber_ | ibot ducati? |
| 17:34.22 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:34.23 | bzbot | elgen (R): 8 (19-11). Boum! (G): -3 (3-6). [meq] freelancer (G): 31 (61-30). calico (R): 11 (22-11). Chestal (R): 0 (1-1). |
| 17:34.38 | bomber_ | rooter : ready? |
| 17:35.16 | rooter | yep |
| 17:35.20 | rooter | where at? |
| 17:35.31 | captain_proton | i'm oscillating from 480-515 or so |
| 17:35.47 | captain_proton | ooh 530 with no mouse movement |
| 17:35.51 | scanline | hehe |
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| 17:35.58 | rooter | what's the server and port? |
| 17:36.00 | scanline | tried the scroll wheel yet? |
| 17:36.01 | bomber_ | at 19:00 ducati but other port i guess |
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| 17:36.08 | rooter | ah |
| 17:36.20 | captain_proton | scanline: is there a way we can make it so mouse input works beyond 640x480? :) |
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| 17:36.43 | akira_ | back |
| 17:36.44 | scanline | captain_proton: that's a bug in pgserver when resizing windows... one workaround is to start it at a higher resolution |
| 17:36.53 | scanline | captain_proton: just stick something like "-m 1024x768" on the command line |
| 17:37.06 | prodan | ibot ducati |
| 17:37.06 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:37.07 | bzbot | elgen (R): 12 (24-12). Boum! (G): -9 (6-15). [meq] freelancer (G): 25 (64-39). calico (R): 20 (34-14). Chestal (R): 2 (5-3). |
| 17:37.09 | scanline | captain_proton: or "--video-sdlgl.fullscreen" if you're brave :) |
| 17:37.23 | bomber_ | i will be also here :o)) |
| 17:37.39 | prodan | which is the duacti port |
| 17:37.44 | prodan | at 1900 |
| 17:37.45 | captain_proton | a nice 220fps at 1024x768 |
| 17:37.50 | bomber_ | akira? |
| 17:37.57 | akira_ | yep |
| 17:38.00 | akira_ | here and ready |
| 17:38.04 | bomber_ | which port |
| 17:38.05 | prodan | will you join bomber |
| 17:38.08 | [TeA|]-[XP] | hmm |
| 17:38.11 | bomber_ | yep |
| 17:38.14 | [TeA|]-[XP] | me aswell |
| 17:38.15 | prodan | gut |
| 17:38.19 | prodan | gut |
| 17:38.22 | [TeA|]-[XP] | wo den? |
| 17:38.31 | prodan | akira:sony memory stick? |
| 17:38.38 | akira_ | prodan: aldi :) |
| 17:38.40 | [TeA|]-[XP] | ducati: 1900 ??? |
| 17:38.44 | akira_ | 128 mb :)) |
| 17:38.53 | akira_ | schoen mp3s zum ueberall hoeren .. |
| 17:39.11 | prodan | memory stick: CF SD SM oder Sony Memstick? |
| 17:39.25 | akira_ | prodan: `? |
| 17:39.40 | prodan | is your memory stick a |
| 17:39.42 | [TeA|]-[XP] | wohin den jetzt ? |
| 17:39.44 | prodan | compact flash |
| 17:39.44 | akira_ | one with flash |
| 17:39.45 | scanline | captain_proton: http://picogui.org/download/jetengine_menutest1.png |
| 17:39.50 | akira_ | yes ... i think |
| 17:39.52 | captain_proton | well X lost track of my mouse now |
| 17:39.53 | prodan | or smart media |
| 17:39.58 | [TeA|]-[XP] | hallo ? |
| 17:39.59 | akira_ | 1000000 times writeable |
| 17:40.01 | prodan | or secure digital |
| 17:40.01 | bomber_ | chestal: which port? |
| 17:40.03 | [TeA|]-[XP] | neuer server oder what |
| 17:40.08 | chsh[] | captain> find it then. ;) |
| 17:40.27 | [TeA|]-[XP] | bomber ? |
| 17:40.32 | bomber_ | ja? |
| 17:40.35 | [TeA|]-[XP] | wohin den jetz`? |
| 17:40.39 | prodan | memstick = Sony Memory Stick (used in Sony Camcorders, digicams, clios) |
| 17:40.46 | bomber_ | k(l)eine Anhnung |
| 17:40.51 | scanline | captain_proton: needs some theme tweaking, like emphasizing the buttons.. but I think the layout could work. The buttons on the left will be tabs to flip through text, level selectors, etc. in the preview box |
| 17:41.03 | bomber_ | ibot ducati? |
| 17:41.04 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:41.04 | [TeA|]-[XP] | (l) |
| 17:41.05 | bzbot | elgen (R): 17 (38-21). Boum! (G): -3 (0-3). [meq] freelancer (G): 22 (74-52). too much loving (G): -3 (6-9). calico (R): 20 (42-22). Chestal (R): 7 (18-11). a green tank (G): -1 (7-8). marcel (R): -3 (0-3). |
| 17:41.06 | captain_proton | i think i have to cycle X to get my mouse back |
| 17:41.11 | scanline | doh |
| 17:41.12 | prodan | hmm: chestal fragen |
| 17:41.21 | bomber_ | chestal spielt |
| 17:41.23 | rooter | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 1900 |
| 17:41.23 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 17:41.27 | prodan | eben |
| 17:41.38 | rooter | can ibot do different ports |
| 17:41.43 | rooter | ah |
| 17:42.14 | Chestal | well, 59999 |
| 17:42.24 | rooter | i've been on that port |
| 17:42.33 | Chestal | my team isn't gathered yet |
| 17:42.34 | rooter | no one was there though |
| 17:42.37 | *** join/#bzflag captain_proton (~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 17:42.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_proton] by ChanServ |
| 17:42.40 | akira_ | i am here chestal |
| 17:42.45 | chsh[] | jeez |
| 17:42.53 | akira_ | but need some warmup time |
| 17:42.58 | chsh[] | I said he should find his mouse and he d/cs. How nice is that |
| 17:43.05 | rooter | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 17:43.05 | bzbot | Chestal (R): 0 (0-0). bomber(penguins) (G): 0 (0-0). akira (G): 0 (0-0). |
| 17:43.49 | captain_proton | i'm back. and i'm bad. within certain preset parameters of course |
| 17:44.02 | scanline | :) |
| 17:44.37 | chsh[] | lol |
| 17:44.48 | chsh[] | so how come you don't like to have people touch you? |
| 17:44.52 | chsh[] | just a quirk? |
| 17:45.28 | captain_proton | chsh[]: thats not what aphenphosmphobia means |
| 17:46.08 | captain_proton | thats actually a joke from a game i wrote for a class last year, it was a tron/worms like game, and mr. wiggly was aphenphosmphobic |
| 17:46.28 | lupinator | gehts schon los? |
| 17:46.38 | captain_proton | scanline: those caustics are cool in the menu :) |
| 17:46.58 | scanline | makes it worth the ugly theme code, eh? :) |
| 17:47.15 | captain_proton | yep |
| 17:47.17 | scanline | I could clean that up by implementing a new theme opcode or two.. but the kludge works enough for now |
| 17:48.01 | scanline | and someday I'll go modify themec so you can work with floating point numbers in the theme source and it compiles to fixed point |
| 17:48.19 | captain_proton | i like your 'switch' :) |
| 17:48.22 | chsh[] | captain> http://www.hypnotictapes.com/transcript/fears-phobias/TS-BEINGTOUCHED.shtml |
| 17:48.24 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:49.03 | chsh[] | Captain> and http://www.arcaini.com/Reference/PhobiasS-U.htm |
| 17:49.06 | chsh[] | ;) |
| 17:50.03 | captain_proton | well, it works for mr. wiggly anyways :) |
| 17:51.33 | scanline | hmm.. now the question is, do I really want to go to my OS class |
| 17:51.56 | chsh[] | Mr. Wiggly eh? |
| 17:52.12 | chsh[] | That sounds rather, ahem, nevermind |
| 17:53.04 | scanline | no thanks |
| 17:53.09 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/Advertisment |
| 17:53.30 | captain_proton | scanline: oh come on, you mean you don't want to learn about ACLs and file permissions and user ids? |
| 17:53.47 | scanline | what's a user id??? |
| 17:53.54 | chsh[] | ROFL |
| 17:53.57 | captain_proton | scanline: its a eunichs thing |
| 17:54.05 | scanline | oh, good thing I'm no part of that |
| 17:54.44 | captain_proton | scanline: commit your code first! |
| 17:54.54 | chsh[] | hehe |
| 17:55.18 | chsh[] | so cp, how are you doin? |
| 17:55.44 | captain_proton | *GROWL* my coffee is gone |
| 17:56.14 | rooter | what is "ui"? |
| 17:56.15 | chsh[] | captain_proton::pourmorecoffee() |
| 17:56.20 | chsh[] | rooter> User Interface |
| 17:56.25 | rooter | no... i know that |
| 17:56.32 | chsh[] | or in some cases, UnIntelligent |
| 17:56.39 | rooter | inside bz |
| 17:56.45 | rooter | ahh that makes more sense |
| 17:56.49 | chsh[] | ;) |
| 17:57.11 | chsh[] | so CP, how long would it take me to get my skills up to par to be able to contribute to bzflag? |
| 17:57.31 | captain_proton | chsh[]: depends on how you want to contribute |
| 17:57.46 | rooter | ibot ducati? |
| 17:57.47 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:57.47 | bzbot | elgen (R): 12 (75-63). Boum! (G): -1 (2-3). dave (R): 0 (3-3). too much loving (G): -1 (2-3). MakosTeszta (G): 10 (29-19). Arch Angel (R): -10 (10-20). Lucidor (G): 1 (21-20). |
| 17:57.53 | rooter | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 17:57.54 | bzbot | Chestal (R): -3 (20-23). bomber (G): -5 (20-25). akira (R): 0 (31-31). prodan (penguins) (G): -10 (26-36). @root (B): 0 (0-0). [TeA] (G): -6 (11-17). @Pinguin (B): 0 (0-0). lupinator (R): 2 (19-17). |
| 17:57.54 | chsh[] | CP> codewise, I am absolutely not a graphics designer. ;) |
| 17:58.24 | captain_proton | chsh[]: well, a fairly solid knowledge of C++...probably at least a little opengl... |
| 17:59.11 | chsh[] | hmm, mebbe I should stick with web stuff, and I guess you guys don't need much of that... |
| 17:59.13 | Patlabor221 | and a love for spagetii code. |
| 17:59.37 | rooter | is it that bad? |
| 17:59.50 | chsh[] | haha |
| 17:59.51 | captain_proton | some of it is that bad, some of it isn't |
| 17:59.52 | rooter | i should check it out |
| 18:00.06 | Patlabor221 | it's good with sauce tho |
| 18:00.08 | chsh[] | I think I'm getting the hang of OOP |
| 18:00.08 | captain_proton | things like the old URL parsing code were disgusting :) |
| 18:00.22 | rooter | bad enough to redesign? |
| 18:00.33 | Patlabor221 | things like shot logic are discusting. |
| 18:00.36 | captain_proton | redesign is a funny word |
| 18:00.43 | Patlabor221 | refactor |
| 18:00.54 | chsh[] | I'm doing a lot of Class-oriented PHP now, and I know that it doesn't quite translate 1-1, but I think I get the object use now, which I didn't before |
| 18:01.00 | rooter | refactor... yes yes... |
| 18:01.01 | chsh[] | mostly probably because I didn't try to get it. ;) |
| 18:01.09 | captain_proton | its hard to redesign major subsystems all at the same time, but its possible |
| 18:01.21 | rooter | but if it's really bad... it's hard to refactor $hit |
| 18:01.39 | chsh[] | cp> why not just do bz over from scratch then? |
| 18:01.52 | Patlabor221 | there's a lot in bz |
| 18:02.08 | chsh[] | yeah |
| 18:02.08 | Patlabor221 | I started a "from scrach" one |
| 18:02.26 | chsh[] | believe me, I'm in a situation where the initial designers were probably of more use as paperweights and doorstops |
| 18:02.40 | chsh[] | but the code I have to support, I have to support, unfortunately... |
| 18:02.51 | Patlabor221 | that's the joy of legacy |
| 18:02.54 | Patlabor221 | I have to do that to |
| 18:02.55 | captain_proton | well the initial design isn't -that- bad, but its got some flaws |
| 18:03.15 | Cell | yes it would need some nested classes |
| 18:03.22 | chsh[] | hehe |
| 18:03.24 | Patlabor221 | yes desging wise it not bad, the implementaion is odd. |
| 18:03.34 | captain_proton | there obviously wasn't a huge amount of thought put into the network protocol, but thats understandable since it was a LAN-only game for the first few years |
| 18:03.35 | chsh[] | well, at least you have that to go on then |
| 18:05.50 | Patlabor221 | YES!!! |
| 18:05.54 | Chestal | upcoming match on ducati 59999 |
| 18:05.58 | akira_ | :) |
| 18:06.07 | akira_ | aplaus for patty |
| 18:06.09 | akira_ | :)) |
| 18:06.14 | captain_proton | scanline: have i mentioned how cool ScriptableObject is? :) |
| 18:07.33 | *** join/#bzflag Wilinckx (~Wilinckx@81.11.147.170) |
| 18:13.03 | scanline | captain_proton: hehe |
| 18:13.36 | captain_proton | scanline: and you are far too prolific a coder |
| 18:13.42 | scanline | captain_proton: I committed what I had, just with the line that instantiates the main menu commented out |
| 18:13.48 | scanline | hehe |
| 18:15.07 | scanline | 1335 lines of code for JetEngine |
| 18:15.19 | scanline | not bad for a weekend |
| 18:19.25 | captain_proton | AUGH! |
| 18:19.46 | scanline | hehe |
| 18:19.52 | scanline | in C++? |
| 18:20.23 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 18:27.09 | scanline | captain_proton: what's different about this one? |
| 18:28.24 | scanline | what's the glPushMatrix() for, it doesn't modify the matrix? |
| 18:28.29 | rooter | does anybody know how to set your team name... i always get empty () after connecting? |
| 18:30.20 | captain_proton | scanline: hmm true, doesn't need the matrix ops |
| 18:30.36 | captain_proton | scanline: this one should be -slightly- faster because of the display lists |
| 18:31.07 | scanline | I don't see any display lists, sure you sent the right one? |
| 18:31.25 | captain_proton | nope :) |
| 18:31.50 | scanline | speaking of display lists, one optimization I plan on doing in the PicoGUI opengl driver involves caching picogui's "groplists" as OpenGL display lists, since they're effectively the same thing |
| 18:31.53 | captain_proton | ergg |
| 18:31.57 | captain_proton | clear out your dcc directory |
| 18:32.05 | scanline | k |
| 18:39.21 | captain_proton | perhaps we should be aghast when there isn't a linux box to demo on, then leave and bring back something ;) |
| 18:39.29 | scanline | hehe |
| 18:39.34 | scanline | I like that |
| 18:40.19 | scanline | "Oh, we'll eventually get it around to porting this to windows... but do you think anyone will use it? Only nerds and idiots use Windows, you know..." |
| 18:41.07 | scanline | though it should just be a matter of writing a pgserver OS module that uses SDL, and maybe tweaking some #ifdefs in the network code |
| 18:41.14 | Patlabor221 | what time are you going to see them? |
| 18:41.22 | captain_proton | 8pm |
| 18:41.34 | Patlabor221 | well I sish you the best of luck |
| 18:41.43 | [TeA|]-[XP] | Fu*k it ! |
| 18:41.51 | Patlabor221 | the honor LGE rests in your hands. |
| 18:42.23 | scanline | maybe soon this thing will actually run LGE ;) |
| 18:43.04 | scanline | nah, don't worry about it |
| 18:44.23 | captain_proton | hopefully i'll get a couple hours to work on this between my physics lab and the meeting |
| 18:44.31 | rooter | you didn't do that bad! |
| 18:44.58 | [TeA-SuckZ] | lol sure |
| 18:45.13 | scanline | I'll see what I can do soon about getting the main menu functional and able to launch the HUD... and _hopefully_ get a way to instantiate objects from python so we can have different scenery in the main menu and game, and even have shooting working |
| 18:45.16 | bomber_ | Tea-gute arbeit |
| 18:45.19 | [TeA-SuckZ] | lol |
| 18:45.22 | [TeA-SuckZ] | klar |
| 18:45.25 | scanline | captain_proton: we could use some camera and ship control code |
| 18:45.27 | bomber_ | nein wirklich |
| 18:45.31 | [TeA-SuckZ] | ;) |
| 18:45.32 | [TeA-SuckZ] | lol |
| 18:45.54 | [TeA-SuckZ] | wieviel haben wir gespielt ß |
| 18:45.55 | [TeA-SuckZ] | ß |
| 18:45.57 | [TeA-SuckZ] | ? |
| 18:45.58 | scanline | captain_proton: and you'd probably be better at that, since it's been a while since I've played starfox :) |
| 18:46.16 | rooter | it's a very good team |
| 18:46.24 | [TeA-SuckZ] | without ,e |
| 18:46.26 | [TeA-SuckZ] | me |
| 18:46.44 | [TeA-SuckZ] | same with penguins |
| 18:46.48 | [TeA-SuckZ] | they are a good team |
| 18:47.03 | rooter | true |
| 18:47.09 | [TeA-SuckZ] | only i suck tahst why i spoilt it all |
| 18:47.14 | bomber_ | they are aber we are better and better :o)) |
| 18:47.15 | rooter | they have won 11 out of 12 games! |
| 18:47.16 | *** join/#bzflag tankmann (t@pD9E537B3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:47.24 | rooter | nope.. i was sucking when i was in |
| 18:47.26 | Chestal | only +9/-9 in rating |
| 18:47.30 | rooter | you captured once too |
| 18:47.32 | akira_ | re |
| 18:47.42 | [TeA-SuckZ] | lol |
| 18:47.55 | [TeA-SuckZ] | i am actually a ctf man |
| 18:48.01 | [TeA-SuckZ] | but no wone helpt me |
| 18:48.14 | bomber_ | congratulation..but i see era of moles is slightly over |
| 18:48.17 | bomber_ | n:o)) |
| 18:48.29 | rooter | are they getting too old? |
| 18:48.39 | bomber_ | i guess so |
| 18:48.41 | Chestal | we will stay on top forever because there are no matches :-) |
| 18:48.47 | rooter | :) |
| 18:48.48 | [TeA-SuckZ] | yep |
| 18:48.50 | bomber_ | :o) |
| 18:49.01 | akira_ | and dont forget .. the summer is over |
| 18:49.03 | bomber_ | the people are only in training chestal |
| 18:49.13 | akira_ | now its wintertime -> we need to sharpen our claws |
| 18:49.32 | Chestal | penguins were much better that in their previous games I think |
| 18:49.43 | [TeA-SuckZ] | im on stupid ducati |
| 18:49.51 | [TeA-SuckZ] | ibot ducati |
| 18:49.51 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:49.52 | bzbot | snow (R): 46 (108-62). road runner (R): -10 (5-15). too much loving (G): -51 (53-104). MakosTeszta (R): 11 (114-103). Yeti (G): -1 (30-31). aim (R): 4 (22-18). airborne (G): 24 (83-59). |
| 18:50.06 | akira_ | Chestal: yes |
| 18:50.14 | bomber_ | ok folks...cu |
| 18:50.20 | akira_ | is there any other team around which wants to fight moles? |
| 18:50.58 | *** part/#bzflag bomber_ (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 18:53.14 | akira_ | hey we are a new clan but have a fair bit of experience so you guys wanna play? |
| 18:53.14 | akira_ | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 18:53.26 | akira_ | Chestal: hast du die nachricht auch gekriegt von kirby oder so? |
| 18:55.19 | akira_ | ok, anyway .. got to go |
| 18:55.28 | akira_ | tankmann: hoffe du kommst noch auf dein spiel heute |
| 18:55.34 | akira_ | moles: winke winke |
| 18:55.38 | akira_ | rest: bye all |
| 18:55.51 | rooter | bye |
| 18:56.18 | Chestal | akira: ja, vor neer Woche oder so, hab auch geantwortet, aber seitdem nixmehr gehoert |
| 18:56.29 | akira_ | Chestal: ok, winke winke bis die tage |
| 18:56.39 | [TeA-SuckZ] | bye# |
| 18:56.46 | akira_ | tea .. kopf hoch |
| 18:56.53 | [TeA-SuckZ] | geht ned |
| 18:56.57 | akira_ | klar |
| 18:57.02 | akira_ | rueckgrad rein und los |
| 18:57.03 | [TeA-SuckZ] | war sowieso schon so depri heut |
| 18:57.27 | [TeA-SuckZ] | am anderen pc hab ich mehr gerockt |
| 18:57.40 | akira_ | :) |
| 18:57.42 | akira_ | bye all |
| 18:58.05 | Chestal | heh,something changed on laz' board |
| 18:58.05 | tankmann | jetzt such doch keine ausreden, tea, das bringt dich auch nicht weiter |
| 18:58.08 | tankmann | :) |
| 18:59.02 | lupinator | chstal: stimmt hehe |
| 19:03.33 | lupinator | ibot ducati |
| 19:03.34 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:03.34 | bzbot | Lars (R): -6 (0-6). too much loving (G): -62 (76-138). airborne (G): 43 (127-84). |
| 19:06.01 | *** join/#bzflag Wilinckx (~Wilinckx@81.11.147.170) |
| 19:06.02 | [TeA-SuckZ] | ibot ducati |
| 19:06.03 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:06.03 | bzbot | Lars (R): -11 (2-13). Death (R): -2 (0-2). kricket (R): -7 (0-7). too much loving (G): -60 (78-138). plani (G): 3 (4-1). airborne (G): 55 (141-86). |
| 19:06.14 | [TeA-SuckZ] | was heistn das (R) ? |
| 19:06.29 | Chestal | red |
| 19:06.33 | [TeA-SuckZ] | dachte ich doch |
| 19:06.41 | [TeA-SuckZ] | war schönes match |
| 19:06.58 | [TeA-SuckZ] | musste zur abregen erst mal ne runde quake3 spielen :o) |
| 19:14.40 | rooter | ibot ducati |
| 19:14.40 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:14.41 | bzbot | Lars (R): -32 (8-40). Death (R): -3 (6-9). too much loving (R): -2 (0-2). Vince (R): -2 (0-2). plani (G): 21 (32-11). luc (G): -2 (0-2). airborne (G): 77 (175-98). |
| 19:23.50 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (alton@pD9E504EB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:25.16 | Cell | Ever seen a tooth smile @u?: http://217.229.4.235/advtrisel.jpg |
| 19:26.21 | Cell | yes it knows its in good j´hands now, lol |
| 19:26.43 | rooter | what is ToothEditor? |
| 19:27.56 | Cell | its my work, reconstruction of damaged tooths for inlays and stuff like that |
| 19:28.10 | Cell | teeth(plural), sry |
| 19:28.18 | rooter | wow... who knew |
| 19:28.35 | rooter | there is a program for everything |
| 19:29.13 | Cell | maybe, but u have to find it |
| 19:29.23 | rooter | :) or write it |
| 19:29.39 | Cell | right |
| 19:33.10 | *** part/#bzflag tankmann (t@pD9E537B3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:41.55 | Cell | i have downloaded the rational rose extension for .net. It allows building of uml charts and supports design patters |
| 19:42.19 | Cell | but firs i have to take a closer look at design patterns, lol |
| 19:44.05 | Cell | start with a Singelton |
| 19:44.20 | Cell | i hope this is easy |
| 19:45.05 | Cell | also i found a design pattern for a tetris like game :) |
| 19:47.05 | Cell | even though my biggest hobby are state machines |
| 19:47.05 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA-SuckZ] (~Nicholas@pD9E95F36.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:47.47 | Chestal | state machines are implemented using goto :-) |
| 19:48.08 | Cell | i see them only from the matematical view |
| 19:50.19 | Chestal | segfault |
| 19:50.20 | Chestal | oops |
| 19:50.59 | Cell | dos? |
| 19:51.37 | Cell | disk operating system |
| 19:54.28 | Cell | if u wathc a ball falling down the z-axis , is it sure that its center has taken every possible position(z-value) at a certain time or could the motion be discontinuous? |
| 19:54.58 | Chestal | study quantum physics |
| 19:55.25 | Cell | beleieve it or not this problem is related with state machines |
| 19:55.48 | Chestal | there is no such thing as the center of course |
| 19:55.49 | Cell | and there is no evidence |
| 19:56.19 | Cell | yes, right but theoretically |
| 19:56.37 | Wilinckx | lol: an ampty world, ricochet and laser :D |
| 20:01.05 | Cell | oh too much avocado |
| 20:01.08 | Cell | makes fat |
| 20:01.41 | Cell | but tastes so good |
| 20:02.26 | rooter | Chestal> what bzfs command do you use for ducati ctf? |
| 20:02.43 | Chestal | a long one |
| 20:02.57 | rooter | i figured :) |
| 20:03.12 | rooter | i'm thinking about starting a U.S. ducati clone |
| 20:03.36 | rooter | it would of course mention the real ducati server |
| 20:03.38 | rooter | :) |
| 20:03.41 | Chestal | there already are some ctf servers out there, don;t know if they're good |
| 20:03.53 | Chestal | bzfs -tk -cr -b -d -h -mp 0,4,4,0,0 -mo 4 -ms 2 +r -p 5156 -pr 59156 -public "thilo@unix-ag.org, team play red vs. green" -publicaddr ducati.bzflag.org:5156 -srvmsg 'check out http://www.bzflag.org/league/' -passwd xxx -lagwarn 380 -lagdrop 1 -maxidle 100 -requireudp -admsg "** testing 1.7e7 **" |
| 20:03.57 | Chestal | that's my line |
| 20:04.04 | rooter | thank you |
| 20:04.37 | Cell | wow that makes me sick |
| 20:04.41 | Cell | im away |
| 20:19.52 | chsh[] | lol |
| 20:23.19 | rooter | is the -tk switch new to 1.7e7? |
| 20:33.16 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: take a look at http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/ now |
| 20:36.46 | rooter | red 2 purple? |
| 20:36.52 | rooter | random! |
| 20:36.55 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:37.19 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:37.27 | rooter | you're missing your <html> tag |
| 20:37.36 | Patlabor221 | I am? |
| 20:37.56 | Patlabor221 | I'll have to talk to the guy who ASPerized it for me |
| 20:37.58 | rooter | yep... |
| 20:38.57 | Patlabor221 | well I should have one now :) |
| 20:38.59 | rooter | Pacific time... where is this hosted? |
| 20:39.10 | Patlabor221 | in wyoming |
| 20:39.10 | rooter | better :) |
| 20:39.14 | Patlabor221 | but I set the time here |
| 20:39.15 | rooter | cool beans |
| 20:39.18 | rooter | here? |
| 20:39.18 | Patlabor221 | when I update it |
| 20:39.22 | Patlabor221 | CA |
| 20:39.25 | rooter | ah |
| 20:39.37 | Patlabor221 | don't know if I like the red or not |
| 20:39.54 | rooter | i like it better than the purple |
| 20:40.08 | Patlabor221 | and I added "the pimp tank" |
| 20:40.11 | rooter | i've tried 1.59e5 of bzedit... very nice |
| 20:40.22 | rooter | :) i like it |
| 20:41.27 | Patlabor221 | stil has more stuff it needs to have done on it |
| 20:41.38 | rooter | it's random only on the main page? |
| 20:41.57 | Patlabor221 | the tutoials page is also suposed to be random, but it seems busted |
| 20:42.06 | Patlabor221 | and he hasn't done the todo page yet |
| 20:42.55 | rooter | it's just the path to the title image |
| 20:43.06 | rooter | if you made it absolute is would work |
| 20:44.20 | rooter | I just made my web site "randomized" |
| 20:44.23 | rooter | http://www.westga.edu/~madison/ |
| 20:46.54 | rooter | have you thought about having a quick way to test maps inside of bzedit? |
| 20:48.42 | rooter | maybe a "preview" button that launches a (non-public) bzfs instance and a bzflag client? |
| 20:52.27 | Patlabor221 | my asp guy is fixing it all now |
| 20:52.33 | Patlabor221 | yes I have, look at the dev list. |
| 20:52.44 | Patlabor221 | it's one of the line items on the to-do |
| 20:52.54 | Patlabor221 | #18 |
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| 20:56.40 | rooter | Cool! that will be a great time saver. |
| 20:57.43 | Patlabor221 | well that, I will spend less time telling people how to start a server |
| 20:58.56 | rooter | i bet :) |
| 20:59.47 | Patlabor221 | I think next I want to fix draging. |
| 21:01.37 | Patlabor221 | I would like to get perhaps a poll up there so I can know what is wanted next. |
| 21:02.15 | rooter | what about separate 2d views like many 3d editing programs have? |
| 21:02.38 | rooter | i'm thinking you get way too many suggestions:) |
| 21:02.43 | Patlabor221 | I don't know how usefull that would be |
| 21:02.50 | Patlabor221 | but it is posible. |
| 21:03.05 | Patlabor221 | I get some, not too many |
| 21:03.28 | Patlabor221 | the problem i find with multi view stuff is that it takes up lots of screen space |
| 21:04.27 | chsh[] | Pat> your asp guy? who deal with the bzflag website? |
| 21:04.32 | chsh[] | *deals |
| 21:04.33 | rooter | yeah... now that i think about it they might take away from the simplicity of it |
| 21:04.53 | Patlabor221 | well he helps me with it |
| 21:05.08 | Patlabor221 | at least in the "make the neat stuff work" dept. |
| 21:05.31 | Patlabor221 | I think that a nice way to set and save views would help more |
| 21:05.44 | Patlabor221 | and allow you to change to them easy |
| 21:05.47 | Patlabor221 | like with F keys |
| 21:06.11 | chsh[] | well, is it all Win2K + ASP based? |
| 21:06.42 | rooter | ooh, i like the way have F & B for front and back of teleporters |
| 21:06.45 | Patlabor221 | the server is an IIS server |
| 21:07.02 | Patlabor221 | but it also has PHP stuff on it in adition to ASP |
| 21:07.11 | Patlabor221 | he is just more comfortable in ASP |
| 21:07.15 | Patlabor221 | so that's what he did. |
| 21:07.28 | Patlabor221 | yes I had to put those in the teleporters for the new link interface |
| 21:07.32 | Patlabor221 | no more link IDs |
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| 21:09.17 | chsh[] | hmm |
| 21:09.44 | chsh[] | well, if you want help with the site, I wouldn't mind helping out. I'm not too much of a C/C++ developer, but web langs (ASP and PHP) are my thing |
| 21:11.09 | chsh[] | I have to use it here, and boy, do I wish I could just go with apache... |
| 21:11.14 | Patlabor221 | thanks, but I don't plan on doing much with it, this is just to make it purdy, then I'm just gonna leave it, he's seting me up a news script thing |
| 21:11.36 | Patlabor221 | I don't have a choice for my server type or OS. |
| 21:11.41 | chsh[] | hehe, alright then. |
| 21:11.52 | chsh[] | hosting provider? I gotcha |
| 21:11.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:12.09 | chsh[] | how much do you pay for a year? |
| 21:12.12 | Patlabor221 | I have 500 megs of unmetered space on a server in wyoming |
| 21:12.17 | Patlabor221 | 100 for the first site |
| 21:12.22 | Patlabor221 | 50 for each aditional |
| 21:12.33 | Patlabor221 | and they pay domain reneal |
| 21:13.40 | Patlabor221 | so I can't say it's a bad deal |
| 21:13.54 | Patlabor221 | and they are fast to change stuff when I need to |
| 21:14.13 | Patlabor221 | like set up password proteced dirs or database stuff |
| 21:14.21 | Patlabor221 | I think you even get some shoping cart stuff |
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| 21:24.16 | Patlabor221 | well that was quick |
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| 21:37.43 | snyke | hi tim |
| 21:45.57 | scanline | aha |
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| 21:46.32 | Cell | ups, interview time tomorrow |
| 21:50.02 | Cell | Cell:"I only hope that i must do only that what i want from you!" |
| 21:50.09 | Cell | Employer:"Ahem, nice...what do you want from me?" |
| 21:50.11 | Cell | Cell:"Nothing, actually" |
| 21:53.58 | Cell | good preparation |
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| 21:59.20 | Cell | someone knows how the cool/pretty winXP icons are done? |
| 21:59.31 | scanline | MS Paint |
| 22:00.43 | Cell | yes so about 2 days per icon |
| 22:01.13 | Cell | found it: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwxp/html/winxpicons.asp |
| 22:01.35 | captain_proton | scanline: anything new since earlier today? |
| 22:01.39 | Patlabor221 | I use an app called Microangelo |
| 22:01.59 | scanline | captain_proton: tried to make a python console and ended up finding and fixing some pgserver bugs |
| 22:02.01 | Cell | yes heard about that |
| 22:02.54 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:02.55 | scanline | captain_proton: oh, and gonkulator might be showing up tonight for the meeting |
| 22:03.17 | captain_proton | heh |
| 22:03.24 | captain_proton | dan might be interestified |
| 22:03.44 | captain_proton | scanline: is there any documentation on how to pull input? |
| 22:03.49 | captain_proton | or even easier |
| 22:03.54 | captain_proton | docs on cli_python |
| 22:04.27 | scanline | There are some docs on cli_python linked to from picogui.org, but they probably need a lot of updating. The easiest way to figure out what input is available is to stick "print t.__dict__" in at the beginning of the handler |
| 22:05.22 | scanline | Cell: "1. Color is rich and complementary to the Windows XP look." |
| 22:06.23 | captain_proton | ....how do i bind handlers? :P |
| 22:06.39 | scanline | look at input.py |
| 22:06.48 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.48 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.21 | scanline | that will set up Input.handler() to recieve all input that picogui doesn't absorb first |
| 22:08.01 | Cell | scanline; yes i read it |
| 22:08.03 | scanline | you can also provide a mask of events to recieve, a mask of events to absorb, and different place in the filter chain to add it |
| 22:08.22 | scanline | Cell: I just thought that part was funny, considering how mind-bogglingly stupid the WinXP color scheme is |
| 22:08.53 | scanline | captain_proton: a single handler at the end of the chain is probably enough (if I understand what we want to do) |
| 22:09.50 | Cell | Patlabor221:how do i uninstall this tomato software? |
| 22:10.59 | captain_proton | scanline: t.dev == 'keyboard' ? |
| 22:11.40 | scanline | 'kbd' |
| 22:11.51 | Patlabor221 | it should have an uninstaller |
| 22:11.55 | scanline | though I'd recommend trying "print t.__dict__" just to get a feel for how it categorizes events |
| 22:14.24 | captain_proton | scanline: ok, i understand that now - where can i find a list of keys? |
| 22:14.58 | scanline | captain_proton: include/picogui/pgkeys.h |
| 22:15.11 | scanline | captain_proton: unfortunately cli_python doesn't have those constants yet |
| 22:15.18 | captain_proton | so.... |
| 22:15.22 | captain_proton | how do i get keyboard input? |
| 22:15.38 | scanline | either add the constants to cli_python or use numeric key values |
| 22:16.01 | scanline | the picogui keysyms are a superset of SDL keysyms, which are a superset of ASCII.. and they're documented in pgkets.h |
| 22:16.05 | scanline | err, pgkeys.h |
| 22:16.42 | Cell | scanline: k the XP icons are very childish. How do u like mine(handmade with ms paint:)): http://217.89.15.163/icons.gif |
| 22:17.09 | scanline | Cell: needs antialiasing badly |
| 22:17.29 | Cell | hm ms paint seems not to have that feature |
| 22:17.55 | captain_proton | ok, i've got velocity control on the ship |
| 22:18.11 | scanline | cool. What are the controls going to be like? |
| 22:18.41 | scanline | mouse, keyboard, joystick? |
| 22:19.14 | Cell | k, but dont suck up the entrata del porto |
| 22:20.11 | captain_proton | right now i'm doing keyboard |
| 22:20.16 | captain_proton | eventually probably joystick |
| 22:20.22 | captain_proton | but i don't want to mess with that yet |
| 22:20.41 | scanline | seems like aiming would be better with the mouse than the keyboard though |
| 22:24.37 | scanline | could do something like bzflag, or just grab the mouse |
| 22:25.03 | captain_proton | should be grabbing the mouse anyway |
| 22:26.15 | captain_proton | hmm its setting the cursor different after the game actually starts |
| 22:26.36 | scanline | hmm? |
| 22:26.55 | captain_proton | it starts with a crosshair but after a second or so switches to the arrow cursor |
| 22:27.22 | scanline | hmm, I'm not getting the crosshair at all |
| 22:28.10 | captain_proton | mouse coords are from the upper right? |
| 22:28.13 | scanline | that's just a remnant of me experimenting with cursors |
| 22:28.15 | scanline | yes |
| 22:28.20 | scanline | err, upper left |
| 22:28.33 | captain_proton | hmm, can i retrieve the window size? |
| 22:28.56 | scanline | We can have the cursor be anything of course... the theme language even lets you attach cursors to theme objects, so we could have it change as you move over a button or something |
| 22:29.18 | scanline | there's a request to do it.. lemme look up how that's implemented in cli_python |
| 22:30.01 | scanline | hrm, no unpack for it yet |
| 22:36.16 | scanline | >>> import PicoGUI |
| 22:36.17 | scanline | >>> app = PicoGUI.InvisibleApp() |
| 22:36.17 | scanline | >>> app.getVideoMode() |
| 22:36.17 | scanline | {'bpp': 32, 'lxres': 640, 'flags': 0L, 'xres': 640, 'lyres': 480, 'yres': 480} |
| 22:36.32 | scanline | committed |
| 22:46.59 | captain_proton | how do i pull values out of that? |
| 22:47.39 | scanline | modeInfo = app.getVideoMode() |
| 22:47.44 | scanline | print modeInfo.xres |
| 22:47.49 | scanline | err |
| 22:47.58 | scanline | print modeInfo['xres'] |
| 22:49.26 | scanline | xres and yres are physical resolution, lxres and lyres are logical resolution... they're usually the same, but for example if the screen is rotated they will be different |
| 22:49.55 | scanline | since this input filter is going in after the events are converted to logical coords, you should use lxres/lyres |
| 22:49.57 | captain_proton | how do i force something to float? |
| 22:50.11 | scanline | float() I think |
| 22:50.46 | scanline | plus the type promotion rules are like in C, so you can do 0 + 5.0 and get a float |
| 22:52.45 | captain_proton | be seeing you |
| 22:52.50 | scanline | have fun |
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