| 00:43.22 | MrApathyCream | ping |
| 00:43.49 | scanline | poing |
| 00:46.41 | MrApathyCream | heh quiet nite |
| 01:04.22 | scanline | indeedy |
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| 01:25.52 | Cell | if i commit files that have no changes to the cvs does it recognize that? |
| 01:26.12 | captain_proton | cvs won't commit if there are no changes |
| 01:26.19 | Cell | k |
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| 02:50.29 | Mayhem | can anybody explain why taking my team flag onto another base is classed as a capture? |
| 02:50.58 | Mayhem | doesn't 'capturing' require some input on the part of the opposition? |
| 02:51.34 | captain_proton | any time your flag gets into their base is a capture |
| 02:52.07 | Mayhem | yes, but why? That doesn't seem logical to me. |
| 02:52.28 | captain_proton | just how the game works |
| 02:53.48 | Mayhem | yes, currently. If I wrote a patch so this wasn't the case, would people be upset? |
| 02:53.56 | captain_proton | such a patch probably would not be accepted |
| 02:54.42 | Mayhem | if I'm green, and take the red flag onto the blue base, its not a capture |
| 02:54.59 | Cell | how do i exit vi editor? |
| 02:55.06 | Mayhem | :q! |
| 02:55.15 | Mayhem | or if you want to save, :wq |
| 02:55.47 | Cell | Mayhem:are u talking to me? |
| 02:55.53 | Mayhem | Cell: yep |
| 02:56.22 | Cell | yep it worked thanks |
| 02:56.47 | Cell | how do i set the CVSROOT env varaible permanently |
| 02:57.55 | Cell | tried: env CVSROOT=$HOME/cvsroot but its gone |
| 02:58.11 | Mayhem | Cell: if you are using bash, stick it into your .bashrc or .bash_profile |
| 02:58.34 | Cell | i use ksh |
| 02:59.34 | Cell | how to open .kshrc with vi |
| 02:59.36 | Cell | ? |
| 02:59.48 | captain_proton | vi .kshrc |
| 03:00.04 | Cell | oh |
| 03:00.08 | Mayhem | hmm, not to familiar with ksh, but the export command may be what you meant |
| 03:00.25 | Cell | k, i try |
| 03:00.50 | captain_proton | even export won't work |
| 03:01.02 | captain_proton | to preserve it across sessions you need to put it in a login script |
| 03:01.10 | captain_proton | (or use screen) |
| 03:01.26 | Cell | i try to edit the .kshrc |
| 03:02.23 | Cell | something's wrong here |
| 03:05.08 | Cell | how do i check out the name of the file where the env variables a re stored, cause .kshrc does not match env output? |
| 03:05.32 | captain_proton | ? |
| 03:05.59 | Cell | i need the filenam of the file where the env variables are stored? |
| 03:06.24 | captain_proton | they're not 'stored' |
| 03:06.33 | captain_proton | you need to put the env command you're using in one of the scripts |
| 03:06.35 | captain_proton | so it runs when you login |
| 03:06.58 | Cell | so they are managed by the system? |
| 03:07.40 | captain_proton | well sorta |
| 03:07.59 | Cell | but they have to be stored somewhere on harddisk |
| 03:08.20 | Cell | for each user |
| 03:09.13 | Cell | maybe i should try to grep for it |
| 03:09.14 | captain_proton | its not like that |
| 03:09.22 | captain_proton | they're altered via COMMANDS that run in SCRIPTS |
| 03:09.41 | Mayhem | have a look at /etc/profile, that is ksh relevant as well |
| 03:09.47 | Cell | k so they exist only at runtime |
| 03:09.55 | Cell | k |
| 03:10.03 | captain_proton | /etc/profile is usually used for bash iirc |
| 03:10.43 | Mayhem | my /etc/profile says its is for bourne-compatible shells too ( ksh(1), ash(1), ...) |
| 03:11.01 | Mayhem | as does man ksh :) |
| 03:11.06 | captain_proton | Cell: more importantly, why are you using ksh? |
| 03:11.17 | Mayhem | yes, darn good question |
| 03:11.18 | captain_proton | ksh is a good scripting shell but its horrible for day-to-day use |
| 03:11.24 | Cell | because its the default when i log via ssh |
| 03:12.18 | Cell | but sh bash and some others are installed too |
| 03:12.37 | captain_proton | tcsh is good, bash is better |
| 03:12.47 | Cell | i just did not care cause to me they are all the same (until now9 |
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| 03:19.29 | bomber | moin |
| 03:21.47 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.48 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.48 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.48 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.48 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:22.10 | Mayhem | hehe |
| 03:22.12 | Cell | ups error |
| 03:22.38 | Cell | dont understand a thing of the profile shit |
| 03:23.43 | Mayhem | captain_proton: what time of day is it for you currently? |
| 03:24.08 | Cell | must be damn late |
| 03:24.09 | captain_proton | Mayhem: early early friday morning |
| 03:24.13 | captain_proton | in fact |
| 03:24.15 | captain_proton | i'm off to bed |
| 03:24.31 | Mayhem | ok, cya |
| 03:42.51 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 03:42.51 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 03:42.52 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 03:42.58 | Pinguin | bomber ... tz tz tz |
| 03:45.37 | bomber | ibot insult Pinguin |
| 03:46.09 | scanline | feirce! |
| 03:47.48 | bomber | :o) |
| 03:50.03 | Mayhem | I was just on ducati... but only testing something |
| 03:50.46 | bomber | lame excuse :o))) |
| 03:50.56 | Mayhem | no-one else was there :( |
| 03:55.50 | Cell | ibot insult me |
| 03:56.08 | Cell | ibot insult ibot |
| 04:08.21 | Mayhem | bye all |
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| 04:12.14 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 04:12.14 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 04:12.15 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 04:23.35 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
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| 04:23.35 | bzbot | Server is empty |
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| 06:39.05 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 06:39.05 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 06:39.06 | bzbot | lolita (G): -5 (4-9). zelda (G): 0 (0-0). baiko (R): 0 (0-0). KYLE (R): 0 (1-1). Num_Lock (R): 15 (28-13). legion (penguins) (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 07:44.15 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 07:44.15 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 07:44.15 | bzbot | Walter wolf (R): -9 (2-11). calico (G): 2 (4-2). Bobo Nana (G): 8 (9-1). intrix (the debugger) (G): -4 (7-11). trubi (R): 1 (7-6). Riggs (G): -4 (2-6). baiko (R): -1 (1-2). |
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| 08:17.39 | akira_ | moin |
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| 08:33.59 | Cell | how do i setup cvs as a server, if this is possible? |
| 08:34.14 | doughecka | Beats the fire out of me! |
| 08:34.57 | Cell | doughecka: what perl editor do u use? |
| 08:35.05 | doughecka | wordpad |
| 08:35.07 | akira_ | Cell: yes it is |
| 08:35.07 | doughecka | :) |
| 08:35.08 | akira_ | pserver |
| 08:35.22 | akira_ | just read the docs from cvs .. pretty good explained |
| 08:35.41 | Cell | i havent found anytink there considering sewrver config |
| 08:36.06 | Cell | i mean i have downloaded cvs.exe |
| 08:36.44 | akira_ | win32? |
| 08:36.48 | Cell | yep |
| 08:36.57 | akira_ | mistake :) |
| 08:37.09 | Cell | ? |
| 08:37.57 | akira_ | wait |
| 08:38.15 | Cell | i mean is there a tcp port listener that maps the output of cvs.exe to a port and vice versa(i dont understand this) |
| 08:38.52 | akira_ | cvs.exe itself is the client as far as i know |
| 08:39.07 | akira_ | what do you want todo exactly? |
| 08:39.21 | akira_ | spread your code into the www as a real server or just USE cvs on win32? |
| 08:40.09 | Cell | the situation is: |
| 08:40.24 | Cell | i have a solaris account |
| 08:40.38 | Cell | and there is cvs installed |
| 08:40.54 | Cell | and i want to use turtleCVS |
| 08:41.03 | Cell | to checkout a project |
| 08:41.11 | akira_ | ah ok |
| 08:41.29 | akira_ | so we dont speak about setting up a cvs-SERVER under win32 |
| 08:41.32 | Cell | since htere is only ssh port open |
| 08:41.39 | Cell | on the solaris network |
| 08:41.47 | Cell | i have to make a tunnel firs |
| 08:42.04 | akira_ | ok, you want to use cvs on your win32 stuff to use ssh to connect to the cvs-server on solaris :) |
| 08:42.07 | akira_ | right? |
| 08:42.16 | Cell | yep |
| 08:42.35 | akira_ | ok, turtle was the client which embeds in the explorer right? |
| 08:42.43 | Cell | exactly :) |
| 08:42.59 | akira_ | ok, never used this so i just will give you some basic stuff in the hand |
| 08:43.06 | Cell | k |
| 08:43.26 | akira_ | cvs.exe decides how to connect through a environment variable called CVS_RSH |
| 08:43.45 | Cell | k |
| 08:43.54 | akira_ | in wincvs you could define this somewhere ... you must give cvs the path to a ssh-client |
| 08:44.02 | Cell | k |
| 08:44.04 | akira_ | could be putty or ssh.com or whatever i guess |
| 08:44.24 | Cell | yes ssh.com |
| 08:44.24 | akira_ | try to find this option in your turtle :) |
| 08:44.27 | Cell | k |
| 08:45.06 | akira_ | ok, i just _heard_ it _could_ work with ssh.com .. i _know_ its working with openssh and putty coz i have done this before so DONT nail me :) |
| 08:45.41 | akira_ | the next step is to define the CVSROOT .. place where the cvsrepository is |
| 08:45.55 | akira_ | thats done through an environment like CVSROOT |
| 08:46.05 | Cell | i did on the solaris machiene |
| 08:46.23 | akira_ | what did you do on the sol machine? |
| 08:46.56 | Cell | cvs -d $CVSROOT init |
| 08:47.35 | Cell | $CVSROOT=$HOME/cvsroot |
| 08:48.09 | Cell | cvs made: $HOME/cvsroot/CVSROOT |
| 08:48.31 | Cell | it stores some admin data there or so |
| 08:48.35 | akira_ | yep .. that was when you import the repos |
| 08:48.39 | akira_ | exactly |
| 08:48.55 | akira_ | and this CVSROOT you have to tell your new client |
| 08:49.25 | Cell | k |
| 08:50.53 | Cell | i try my best now |
| 08:52.34 | akira_ | then just checkout (co) the modul and everything is fine :) |
| 08:53.32 | Cell | ok, got it :) |
| 08:53.35 | Cell | works |
| 08:54.00 | akira_ | yeh? |
| 08:54.03 | akira_ | groovy |
| 08:54.24 | Cell | now i need to allow 2 other solaris users access to the cvs |
| 08:54.29 | akira_ | ha |
| 08:54.32 | akira_ | problem 2 |
| 08:54.33 | akira_ | :) |
| 08:54.38 | Cell | yeah |
| 08:55.02 | akira_ | with this method you choosed to place your CVSROOT you only have the ALL-OR-NOTHING |
| 08:55.06 | Cell | they would need my CVSROOT |
| 08:55.34 | akira_ | cvs _needs_ for sure write access into the cvsroot dir for setting some flags and stuff like that |
| 08:56.03 | akira_ | BUT, if you give them write access to the code, they could change/remove/delete it all ... thats the ALL-side |
| 08:56.34 | akira_ | if you give them no write access to the repository they have a big problem coz the cant checkout and thats the NOTHING-side |
| 08:56.45 | Cell | and i could use the make a unix group and only allow the group access to the repository |
| 08:56.48 | akira_ | solution could be: install a pserver on your solaris box |
| 08:57.16 | akira_ | yep, but group access is something like all or nothing but perhaps pretty easy to install |
| 08:57.29 | akira_ | if i think about it .. could work |
| 08:57.36 | Cell | yes |
| 08:57.38 | Cell | i try |
| 08:57.53 | akira_ | but you got much more finecontrol over the users which are allowed to do this and that with a pserver |
| 08:58.13 | akira_ | but thats your decision .. :) |
| 08:58.15 | Cell | is the pserver for free |
| 08:58.21 | akira_ | of coz |
| 08:58.25 | akira_ | its in the cvssource |
| 08:58.33 | Cell | k |
| 08:58.44 | akira_ | but i never set one up until now ..ok? |
| 08:58.58 | akira_ | but the manual for this topic is pretty good and informativ |
| 08:59.13 | Cell | k i try |
| 08:59.16 | akira_ | its working somehow the sshd / telnetd :) |
| 08:59.34 | Cell | the group thingie first then if i fail i look at the pserver |
| 09:00.09 | Cell | but i hope we do not have to much collisions when commiting files |
| 09:00.22 | akira_ | :) |
| 09:01.00 | akira_ | a good idea is perhaps just to make patches and send them to one guy who controls and checks in |
| 09:01.45 | Cell | no i want everyone to check in |
| 09:03.01 | Cell | if someone commits a change after i checked out and changed my local files and i want to check in i have to update(merge) and make the thingie compileable again and the commit |
| 09:03.23 | Cell | then commit |
| 09:04.46 | Cell | i hope this will not happen that often |
| 09:06.08 | Cell | ups cannot install pserver dont have enough rights to open a listening port |
| 09:11.45 | akira_ | :) |
| 09:12.04 | akira_ | but normaly you have no rights to create a group too |
| 09:15.54 | Cell | really i thought i can do that |
| 09:16.11 | Cell | but what is the command |
| 09:17.11 | Cell | group no |
| 09:17.16 | Cell | mgroup n |
| 09:17.39 | Cell | mkgroup no |
| 09:18.09 | Cell | someone knows how to make a group? |
| 09:19.00 | Cell | bfore i puke |
| 09:19.18 | akira_ | addgroup |
| 09:19.30 | Cell | no |
| 09:19.39 | Cell | good try :) |
| 09:20.12 | Cell | i google for it |
| 09:22.51 | Cell | ok cant do it |
| 09:23.04 | Cell | not enough rights |
| 09:23.25 | akira_ | :) see |
| 09:23.38 | akira_ | and thats why i call it all-or-nothing :) |
| 09:23.49 | Cell | damn |
| 09:25.50 | Cell | ok then i make it available to everyone |
| 09:27.21 | Cell | hey akira_ since u are here i want to ask u smth concerning opengl |
| 09:28.08 | akira_ | Cell: or ask your admin |
| 09:28.30 | Cell | i have a lot of triangles, each hhas a material id, a selected , visible or unselected indicator, how do i draw that triangles fast |
| 09:29.17 | Cell | im still seraching for a cool mesh data structure |
| 09:29.19 | akira_ | sort them for the material |
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| 09:30.00 | doughecka | 'lo Patlabor221! |
| 09:30.06 | Cell | but how long would that take |
| 09:30.12 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 09:30.14 | Cell | hi |
| 09:30.24 | doughecka | greetings and salutations! |
| 09:31.10 | Patlabor221 | hos is everyone |
| 09:31.18 | Patlabor221 | how is everyone? |
| 09:32.14 | akira_ | cell .. you have for each triangel another material? |
| 09:32.26 | Cell | could be |
| 09:32.34 | Cell | i dont know what the user does |
| 09:32.47 | akira_ | then you have no real groovy data structure to make it fast :) |
| 09:33.05 | akira_ | perhaps think about usage of textures |
| 09:33.13 | Cell | yes but normally (average case) there would be 1-3 mats |
| 09:33.13 | Patlabor221 | should keep them sorted by material |
| 09:33.24 | akira_ | if its just for making the tris colored |
| 09:33.39 | doughecka | I am fine |
| 09:33.46 | Cell | Patlabor221: i was thinking about ur structures yesterday, they are pretty fast on static meshes |
| 09:34.21 | Patlabor221 | yes it is used for statics |
| 09:34.26 | Cell | but i need things like remove vertex and triangles or edges too |
| 09:34.33 | akira_ | :) |
| 09:34.53 | Patlabor221 | for dunamic meshes. I keep each model in a mesh list, where a mesh is all the triangles that have the same texture. |
| 09:35.02 | akira_ | like i said: if you just wanne color the tris ... perhaps use a big fat texture and just adjust texcoords |
| 09:35.26 | Patlabor221 | cell, your meshes are only dynamic when they are edited, that dosn't hapen every frame |
| 09:35.35 | Cell | right |
| 09:35.48 | Patlabor221 | so you could do what I do, and jsut shuffle the trinagles to new lists when they are edited. |
| 09:36.10 | akira_ | Cell: the problem is .. statechanges costs very much and things are drawn in that state, so you have to sort them for each possible state to be fast or change the state every tri... |
| 09:36.24 | akira_ | exactly patty |
| 09:37.05 | Patlabor221 | yeah just resort once when it changes, then keep it in the sort for all those frames when you are waiting for the user to change the thing again. |
| 09:37.48 | akira_ | if you use a texture you dont have to sort them |
| 09:38.10 | Cell | what do u mean |
| 09:38.11 | Patlabor221 | well you should sort by texture, texture binds can be nastyt oo |
| 09:38.25 | Patlabor221 | unless you put all the colors in 1 texture |
| 09:38.33 | Patlabor221 | and just change UVs |
| 09:38.41 | Patlabor221 | that wouod work nice tho |
| 09:38.44 | akira_ | Patlabor221: ... |
| 09:38.49 | akira_ | thats what i meant :)) |
| 09:39.01 | Patlabor221 | if you don't want specular, or all the other lighting properties. |
| 09:39.08 | Patlabor221 | if it's just flat color |
| 09:39.27 | akira_ | patlabor .. but you could define a grey material for ALL tris below |
| 09:39.37 | Cell | ok thanks for u help, but this is not as easy as u think, because i did not supply u with enough info |
| 09:39.47 | akira_ | that will do the illumination and the tex will do the coloring |
| 09:39.58 | akira_ | Cell: then supply us :) |
| 09:40.12 | Cell | k |
| 09:40.15 | Cell | i try |
| 09:40.59 | Cell | the faces must be accessable via index |
| 09:41.13 | Cell | sthe index has to start at 0 |
| 09:41.15 | Patlabor221 | then keep an index list |
| 09:41.39 | Cell | every face structure holods the following data |
| 09:41.40 | Patlabor221 | or make the materials map just point to the items in the index list. |
| 09:44.53 | Cell | matID, 3 vertex indices(to vertex array), 3 color indices(to array), 3 normal indices, 3 texture uv indices, smoothing group, states: face:selected, face_hidden, edge1_selected, edge1_hidden, same for other two edges, indices to vertexweights, other user defined channel indices |
| 09:45.58 | Patlabor221 | so you have textures and materials |
| 09:45.59 | Cell | now i need to draw only the selected edges, how to do that |
| 09:46.26 | Cell | i have oonly materials |
| 09:46.43 | Cell | a material can have a submaterials and textures |
| 09:46.43 | Patlabor221 | can that material include a texture? |
| 09:46.50 | Cell | yep |
| 09:47.00 | Patlabor221 | yeah that will screew you up on the texture as a mat Idea |
| 09:47.04 | Patlabor221 | what is a material? |
| 09:47.08 | akira_ | buho .. strange |
| 09:47.23 | Cell | a material holds the following data: |
| 09:47.26 | Patlabor221 | and for you edges, just keep a selecteed edge list |
| 09:47.30 | Patlabor221 | and draw that last. |
| 09:47.39 | Cell | how |
| 09:47.49 | Cell | i have to draw polygons |
| 09:48.48 | Cell | cause lines do not work with Polygon Offset |
| 09:48.48 | Patlabor221 | poly offset |
| 09:48.48 | Patlabor221 | and gl Lines |
| 09:48.48 | Cell | i draw wire over faces |
| 09:48.49 | Patlabor221 | GL_LINELOOP |
| 09:48.52 | Cell | but it does not use Polygon Offset |
| 09:49.12 | Cell | so there are lot of artifacts |
| 09:49.24 | Cell | when drawing lines over faces |
| 09:49.52 | Patlabor221 | do you want them hiden when they are backfaces? or all ways drawn? |
| 09:50.00 | Cell | hidden of coz |
| 09:50.18 | Patlabor221 | then you just have to make sure you get your polygon offset right |
| 09:50.19 | Cell | but i fuser wants only wire |
| 09:50.24 | Cell | then he can decide |
| 09:50.42 | Patlabor221 | you need to set it based on the depth buffer at that z |
| 09:50.53 | Cell | it works already |
| 09:51.24 | Cell | but some edges are selected so they have to be red, others non selected have to be white |
| 09:51.37 | Patlabor221 | draw the selected ones last |
| 09:51.58 | Patlabor221 | I allways keep a list of things that are seleced |
| 09:52.02 | Patlabor221 | and draw them last. |
| 09:52.09 | Cell | yes but then i need to adjust polygon offset twice |
| 09:52.29 | Cell | cause it cannot be avoided(efficiency) that some edged are drawn twice |
| 09:52.37 | Cell | if two triangles share an edge |
| 09:52.51 | Cell | its drawn twice but only one is selected |
| 09:53.13 | Patlabor221 | that is why I keep a list, if it's added twice, then I only draw once. |
| 09:53.25 | Cell | k an edge list |
| 09:54.37 | akira_ | so your material is much more a theoretical thing than a real opengl thing right? |
| 09:55.05 | Cell | no |
| 09:55.29 | Patlabor221 | you never told us what a material is? |
| 09:56.03 | Cell | material has: ambient col, dif col, spec col, emis col, shini, strength, materillsit submaterials, texture id |
| 09:56.24 | akira_ | yeah, but for me .. that sounds like a theoretical thing |
| 09:56.29 | Cell | very close to opengl mat |
| 09:56.31 | akira_ | let me explain this :) |
| 09:56.50 | Cell | k |
| 09:57.07 | Cell | but it already works |
| 09:57.13 | akira_ | you can have your "material" on the one side and the way you realize the ... appereance in the opengl world is quiet different |
| 09:57.18 | akira_ | so, for example |
| 09:57.27 | Cell | in my editor |
| 09:57.29 | akira_ | you define a subtexture for one triangle |
| 09:57.37 | Cell | k |
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| 09:58.02 | akira_ | its one unique texture in your theoretical material but its "embedded" in just ONE texture in opengl |
| 09:58.20 | Cell | k |
| 09:59.25 | Cell | hmm, what about shininess aand exponent and specular color and emiisive color, i could do that for diffuse |
| 09:59.36 | akira_ | so .. you got your structure on the one side and the realization on the oteher |
| 10:00.10 | Cell | and i have to deal with an extra uv channnel, |
| 10:00.24 | akira_ | yeah, but memory is cheap |
| 10:00.25 | akira_ | :) |
| 10:00.46 | Cell | a considerable idea, have to think about it |
| 10:01.10 | Chestal | akira: already finished the tank labels? :-) |
| 10:02.09 | Patlabor221 | cell why do you have all those extra things, do you have output formats that support it? |
| 10:02.18 | akira_ | Chestal: :) |
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| 10:02.42 | Chestal | ah, hi Tim |
| 10:02.47 | akira_ | Chestal: i fixed the batch to compile against 1.7 but it looks real weird |
| 10:03.11 | akira_ | hi tim |
| 10:03.25 | Patlabor221 | crap that's righ, I gotta make changes to the new windows install script. |
| 10:04.12 | Chestal | Pat: consider installing HTML version of th eman pages for Windows |
| 10:04.21 | Chestal | or plain text |
| 10:04.37 | Patlabor221 | sure where are they? |
| 10:04.45 | Patlabor221 | I can make it install ANYthing :) |
| 10:04.59 | Chestal | must be created automatically first |
| 10:05.42 | Patlabor221 | how? |
| 10:05.51 | akira_ | Cell: ill give you an example for this abstract / realization stuff |
| 10:07.08 | Patlabor221 | Chestal: they took away my leennox machine here so I can't build on it :( |
| 10:07.28 | Chestal | Patlabor221: ah,hmm. I can just do man -Thtml <manpage> here |
| 10:07.50 | Chestal | I don't know how we best solve this |
| 10:07.57 | akira_ | Cell: there is a scenegraph system out there ... they will have a LOT of data additional to the pure geometry |
| 10:08.09 | Chestal | we could put those into the CVS tree, but then we would have to be careful to keep them synced |
| 10:08.14 | Patlabor221 | I'll have the installer make a doc shortcut in the start menu. |
| 10:08.37 | Patlabor221 | be nice if there was a tool on windows that could make the HTML too |
| 10:09.25 | akira_ | Cell: so for rendering they are doing 2 things: first build the rendertree (the optimized version) and second render the monster :) |
| 10:12.42 | akira_ | so .. its not always a bad idea to seperate .. IDEA .. and the realization |
| 10:13.31 | Cell | akira_: i looked at sgi's open inventor and it had all the features i try to do myself, but its not available for windows |
| 10:14.55 | doughecka | sweet |
| 10:15.06 | doughecka | bzedit crashes on maps without returnes |
| 10:15.14 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 10:15.23 | akira_ | Cell: it is |
| 10:15.24 | Patlabor221 | it needs the CR/LF |
| 10:15.25 | Cell | an my scene managementdesign and plugin interface is too pretty now to switch, i only have to find a optimal mesh structure that does perform well on large database too |
| 10:15.27 | doughecka | hmm |
| 10:15.44 | akira_ | Cell: search for a scenegraph called coin .. |
| 10:15.44 | Patlabor221 | they must be windows text files |
| 10:15.57 | doughecka | how would I go about converting it? |
| 10:16.33 | Cell | at very first i started with the java scene graph, java3d package |
| 10:16.42 | akira_ | Cell: brbrb |
| 10:17.06 | Cell | but im slow in java programming, and the scene graph was kinda coplex to setup/manage |
| 10:17.23 | Cell | so i decided to do all myself |
| 10:17.35 | Cell | using opengl |
| 10:17.35 | Patlabor221 | ok I have it so the installer will make shortucts to the man HTML pages for bzflag bzfs and bzfls |
| 10:17.50 | doughecka | slick |
| 10:18.31 | doughecka | hmm |
| 10:18.42 | doughecka | I thought potatoes grow in the ground |
| 10:20.34 | doughecka | woop, Sussudio's X Marks The Spot with InstaGib! |
| 10:20.57 | doughecka | :) |
| 10:28.42 | Patlabor221 | I wish I could get CVS here |
| 10:28.52 | akira_ | :) |
| 10:28.58 | akira_ | wy couldnt you? |
| 10:29.05 | Patlabor221 | firewall |
| 10:29.07 | Patlabor221 | big time |
| 10:29.11 | akira_ | ssh? |
| 10:29.15 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 10:29.18 | Patlabor221 | blocked |
| 10:29.20 | akira_ | no ssh???? |
| 10:29.22 | akira_ | brbrbr |
| 10:29.23 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 10:29.37 | Patlabor221 | they don't use linux here |
| 10:30.35 | akira_ | no putty? |
| 10:30.40 | akira_ | would be enough |
| 10:33.21 | doughecka | how does one use putty to tunnel trafic through? |
| 10:33.46 | doughecka | I know I can get VNC through SSH, but how would I go about setting it up? |
| 10:34.20 | akira_ | ssh name@there command |
| 10:34.28 | doughecka | hmm |
| 10:39.51 | BZFlag | Patlabor221: so how are you going to convert them? |
| 10:39.58 | BZFlag | the man pages that is. |
| 10:40.30 | BZFlag | akira_: subversion is a web based version control package. |
| 10:41.06 | captain_proton | subversion is good, great and joyous, beautiful and free |
| 10:41.36 | akira_ | BZFlag: how does it work? |
| 10:41.47 | BZFlag | doughecka: you likely want plink.exe which is the putty without a gui. allows for pipes etc. |
| 10:42.04 | akira_ | plink and plonk :) |
| 10:42.09 | BZFlag | akira_: captain_proton has a tree setup that they have been doing the gui changes in. |
| 10:42.28 | BZFlag | plink works well with wincvs etc. |
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| 10:44.58 | akira_ | nice to know |
| 10:45.05 | akira_ | but how works the subversion? |
| 10:45.24 | doughecka | BZFlag: ah |
| 10:45.57 | BZFlag | akira_: talk to captain_proton. he knows. ;-) |
| 10:46.06 | doughecka | hmm |
| 10:46.22 | captain_proton | akira_: how does it function or how is it set up? |
| 10:46.29 | doughecka | webcam down |
| 10:46.30 | doughecka | ? |
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| 10:47.54 | doughecka | how do I pipe something in windows through putty? |
| 10:48.29 | doughecka | is there a ssh server for windows? |
| 10:49.17 | Patlabor221 | there are many |
| 10:49.25 | Patlabor221 | at home I have putty |
| 10:49.34 | doughecka | and a server? |
| 10:49.37 | Patlabor221 | tho my PGP keys are no longer valid. |
| 10:49.44 | captain_proton | i'm off to class |
| 10:49.51 | captain_proton | back in 3 hrs |
| 10:49.58 | doughecka | hm |
| 10:50.20 | akira_ | captain_proton: how does it work -> pattys problem was the all over blocking firewall |
| 10:58.14 | doughecka | potatoes must of been mushy |
| 11:01.37 | chsh[] | lol |
| 11:01.40 | chsh[] | shhh |
| 11:01.49 | chsh[] | ssh is a scary scary thing |
| 11:02.22 | chsh[] | well, doug asked for an ssh server for windows |
| 11:02.24 | Patlabor221 | BZFlag: I cna't check in |
| 11:02.34 | Patlabor221 | I redid the machine and didn't save my key file thingys |
| 11:02.53 | chsh[] | doug: check out terminal services, not exactly ssh, but ssh for windows would be like putting slicks on a chevette: pointless and resource intensive |
| 11:03.21 | chsh[] | Patlabor: Putty != SSH server, Putty is an SSH client |
| 11:03.53 | Patlabor221 | yeah I saw lafter I said that that he wanted server. |
| 11:04.18 | doughecka | chsh[]: I have terminal services installed on all my pcs.. |
| 11:04.19 | doughecka | :) |
| 11:05.05 | doughecka | I wanted to know how I could tunnel through a SSH server on a windows box... |
| 11:05.16 | doughecka | using putty as the client |
| 11:05.35 | doughecka | your webcam is down |
| 11:05.53 | chsh[] | doug> |
| 11:06.07 | chsh[] | doug> if you want to pipe data through putty, you can always download the source |
| 11:06.07 | doughecka | ? |
| 11:06.20 | doughecka | hmm |
| 11:06.27 | BZFlag | doughecka: heh. that's normal. I only run it from time to time. |
| 11:06.37 | chsh[] | doug> or check out plink |
| 11:06.39 | doughecka | heh |
| 11:06.47 | chsh[] | it lets you access certain library commands from the command line |
| 11:06.51 | doughecka | chsh[]: I have plink too |
| 11:06.54 | BZFlag | doughecka: I head cygwin has an ssh server. |
| 11:06.56 | chsh[] | with a bit of scripting, you could probably do it |
| 11:06.58 | BZFlag | er hear. |
| 11:07.00 | doughecka | but what about the server half? |
| 11:07.07 | chsh[] | doug> get a linux box |
| 11:07.09 | doughecka | I found openSSH for iwndows |
| 11:07.13 | chsh[] | ;) |
| 11:07.16 | doughecka | chsh[]: :P |
| 11:07.21 | BZFlag | sshd.exe ? ;-) |
| 11:07.25 | chsh[] | are you insane, running windows on a server? :D |
| 11:07.46 | doughecka | :) |
| 11:08.53 | chsh[] | hehe |
| 11:08.54 | chsh[] | l8r |
| 11:37.34 | Pinguin | INFO: iptables and connection tracking works with bzflag .... excellent !!! |
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| 12:01.18 | BZFlag | Pinguin: not for a masqueraded server though. With current servers there are only 2 ports to allow/forward and then it will work. |
| 12:01.39 | BZFlag | the client has worked with ipmasq configs since e2 |
| 12:08.40 | Pinguin | aha ... |
| 12:09.28 | Pinguin | i was just astonished that NOTHING goes in for me ... but bzflag with udp(!) works fine through iptables ... :-) |
| 12:10.02 | BZFlag | well, thank you. it took some time to debug. ;-) |
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| 12:24.31 | BZFrank | hi |
| 12:30.22 | Patlabor221 | hey frank, how's it going? |
| 12:32.02 | BZFrank | hey pat |
| 12:32.22 | BZFrank | fine thanks, finally friday :) |
| 12:33.07 | BZFrank | and you? |
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| 12:34.37 | Cell | what do i need to mke the cvs repostitory html browsable? |
| 12:36.26 | BZFrank | why do you want to do this? |
| 12:36.38 | Patlabor221 | subversion does it automaticly |
| 12:36.49 | Cell | subversion? |
| 12:37.00 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 12:37.07 | Patlabor221 | and alternitive to CVS |
| 12:37.24 | Patlabor221 | works with an apachee webserver |
| 12:37.40 | Patlabor221 | sourceforge uses this |
| 12:37.40 | Patlabor221 | http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:38.10 | Patlabor221 | cell you use CVS there? |
| 12:38.15 | Patlabor221 | why not sourcesafe? |
| 12:39.19 | Cell | i have setup cvs on solaris today, i need it for a java project(a gui language compiler) i do with 2 other ppl |
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| 12:40.21 | Patlabor221 | well then looks like you can use that viewCVS |
| 12:41.03 | Cell | well its not that necassary, but would be nice |
| 12:43.36 | Cell | i just am a liitle bit afraid if i check out the project and some else checks in a newer version then i have to update and edit the conflicts if any and make the thing compileable again before i check it in, i hope this wont happen too often |
| 12:44.01 | Cell | but i duno cause i never used cvs |
| 12:44.14 | Patlabor221 | that's just a merge |
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| 12:44.40 | Patlabor221 | thats the entire reason behind a CVS system |
| 12:44.55 | Cell | but the merge is not necessary compileable |
| 12:45.10 | Patlabor221 | yes, |
| 12:45.16 | Patlabor221 | but that's what you have to deal with |
| 12:45.31 | Patlabor221 | that's what I don't like about CVS |
| 12:45.47 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't "mark" a file as checked out by someone |
| 12:45.51 | Patlabor221 | I know why it dosn't |
| 12:45.56 | Patlabor221 | but it would be nice to do so |
| 12:46.01 | Cell | but u can lock it |
| 12:46.07 | Patlabor221 | that's bad tho |
| 12:46.11 | Cell | i know |
| 12:46.17 | Patlabor221 | I guess I am too used to soruce safe |
| 12:46.27 | Patlabor221 | it just marks it |
| 12:46.36 | Patlabor221 | and lets you know who has it out. |
| 12:46.48 | Patlabor221 | and you can change it but at elast you know there may be a merge before you start. |
| 12:47.06 | Cell | ah k |
| 12:47.23 | Cell | and its supported by vc++ |
| 12:47.31 | Patlabor221 | since CVS dosn't inegtate into an IDE, it would be tedious to mark each file you plan to edit. |
| 12:49.27 | Patlabor221 | but geting SS to work over the net is a not easy. |
| 12:50.38 | Cell | i use cvs since i have set it up(took me all day) and use the turttle client form win explorer |
| 12:51.06 | Patlabor221 | the tortice CVS client is nice |
| 12:51.42 | Cell | yes |
| 12:57.17 | BZFrank | brb |
| 12:57.30 | doughecka | ? |
| 12:57.33 | doughecka | bzfrank was here |
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| 12:57.47 | BZFrank | re |
| 12:57.48 | doughecka | hey BZFrank!!! |
| 12:58.00 | BZFrank | hi doug! |
| 12:58.15 | doughecka | any progress on p2501? |
| 12:58.17 | doughecka | :) |
| 12:58.32 | doughecka | sweet |
| 12:58.33 | doughecka | :) |
| 12:58.38 | BZFrank | yes, new console is in |
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| 12:58.45 | doughecka | ah |
| 12:58.51 | doughecka | menu? |
| 12:58.55 | BZFrank | needed for the parhelia stuff |
| 12:58.57 | BZFrank | next |
| 12:59.01 | doughecka | cool |
| 12:59.04 | doughecka | hmm |
| 12:59.11 | doughecka | I want to see the lighting thing |
| 12:59.12 | doughecka | :) |
| 12:59.18 | BZFrank | hehe ;) |
| 12:59.20 | doughecka | any screen shots? or a exe? |
| 12:59.24 | doughecka | lol |
| 12:59.38 | BZFrank | wait and see |
| 12:59.42 | doughecka | :P |
| 12:59.47 | doughecka | how long? |
| 12:59.56 | *** part/#bzflag Cell (~cell@p5080292D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:00.04 | BZFrank | days, weeks, years, milleniums ;) |
| 13:00.12 | doughecka | :P |
| 13:00.29 | BZFrank | I do not give a release date anymore |
| 13:00.34 | doughecka | heh |
| 13:00.38 | BZFrank | it is ready when it is ready |
| 13:00.46 | BZFrank | just like Doom3 ;) |
| 13:00.46 | doughecka | indeed |
| 13:00.48 | Patlabor221 | heck maybe I'll be done before him |
| 13:00.49 | doughecka | hah |
| 13:00.54 | doughecka | *gasp* |
| 13:00.59 | doughecka | that would be impossible |
| 13:01.08 | BZFrank | pat: anything upcoming *hint*hint* |
| 13:01.33 | Patlabor221 | the super animated model class |
| 13:01.53 | Patlabor221 | and it's asociated n texture pass skinn class |
| 13:01.55 | BZFrank | maeks for tanks with propeller heads or? |
| 13:02.09 | Patlabor221 | does what ever you want it to do |
| 13:02.25 | BZFrank | ah, furry tanks with shaders I see ;) |
| 13:02.36 | Patlabor221 | not realy shaders |
| 13:02.42 | Patlabor221 | more like what quake 3 did |
| 13:02.53 | Patlabor221 | define a number passes |
| 13:02.59 | Patlabor221 | and what there blend modes are |
| 13:03.18 | BZFrank | sure looks nice but is it really needed for a tank game? |
| 13:03.19 | doughecka | ooh, bots in AA:O |
| 13:03.20 | Patlabor221 | and if you want them to use model TC's or auto gened ones |
| 13:03.44 | Patlabor221 | basilcy it's a gneralised way to make enviroment maps |
| 13:03.55 | zZzToxic | aa:o? |
| 13:04.01 | Patlabor221 | it's overkill for the bz useage |
| 13:04.03 | doughecka | americasarmy.com |
| 13:04.05 | BZFrank | show some pictures :) |
| 13:04.20 | Patlabor221 | the spherical enviroment maping is jacked :( |
| 13:04.59 | Patlabor221 | moslty for bz is just the abllity to read in a standard model format or 3 |
| 13:05.23 | Patlabor221 | and define CS "tags" for the atchement of "stuff" |
| 13:05.28 | Patlabor221 | like the flag. |
| 13:06.33 | Patlabor221 | tho I sould hook up animated textures on the meshes |
| 13:06.42 | Patlabor221 | at least UV slides |
| 13:06.50 | Patlabor221 | for animated treads |
| 13:09.25 | BZFrank | what do you use for a model format? |
| 13:09.36 | Patlabor221 | i can load 4 formats |
| 13:09.43 | Patlabor221 | Quake 3 MD3 |
| 13:09.51 | Patlabor221 | unreal U3d |
| 13:09.59 | Patlabor221 | wavefront OBJ |
| 13:10.06 | Patlabor221 | and my own A3d |
| 13:10.12 | Patlabor221 | and it can save A3d |
| 13:10.29 | BZFrank | some ascii based format or just your own stuff |
| 13:10.39 | Patlabor221 | a3d is binary |
| 13:10.44 | Patlabor221 | obj is the text one |
| 13:11.03 | Patlabor221 | I could make a text a3d if I wanted to |
| 13:11.19 | Patlabor221 | but I don't realy see a need |
| 13:11.26 | Patlabor221 | since it'll save them |
| 13:11.31 | BZFrank | sure |
| 13:12.02 | Patlabor221 | it'll also smooth the normals for formats that don't have them |
| 13:12.03 | BZFrank | well, I only load ms3d, saw no need for multiple formats |
| 13:12.30 | Patlabor221 | I just had these 3 readers siting around. |
| 13:12.51 | Patlabor221 | and there are plugins for damn near every thing for them |
| 13:13.08 | BZFrank | thought about rewriting the renderer to use vertex arrays |
| 13:13.17 | Patlabor221 | MD3 can actualy be a "free" format for windows users. GMax + the Quake exporters. |
| 13:13.45 | BZFrank | yep |
| 13:14.10 | Patlabor221 | tho the "skin" files are text |
| 13:15.24 | Patlabor221 | that's the part I'm testing out now, making sure all my options work the way they should |
| 13:15.46 | BZFrank | so the end result will be a demo or a game? |
| 13:15.49 | Patlabor221 | multiple passes & showing/hiding mesh parts |
| 13:16.41 | Patlabor221 | but now I think it's food time |
| 13:17.04 | BZFrank | mahlzeit! |
| 13:21.09 | BZFrank | later |
| 13:46.32 | captain_proton | ../../lib/libLGE.a(LGE.o)(.text+0x244e): In function `LGEngine::GetResolutionName(LGEngine::ResInfo)': |
| 13:46.32 | captain_proton | : undefined reference to `string_util::format(char const*, ...)' |
| 13:47.53 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara ~/projects/bzflag/lge-port]$ nm lib/libCommon.a |grep format |
| 13:47.53 | captain_proton | 00000070 T _ZN11string_util6formatEPKcz |
| 13:49.43 | captain_proton | i'm gonna go make some money |
| 13:49.53 | Patlabor221 | whoring again? |
| 13:50.37 | captain_proton | be back in maybe a half hour |
| 13:52.49 | doughecka | me too |
| 13:54.22 | Patlabor221 | but you have no money |
| 13:55.28 | Patlabor221 | they are like 2 grand |
| 14:22.40 | Patlabor221 | the revolution will be telivised. |
| 14:31.50 | doughecka | hmm |
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| 14:35.31 | doughecka | hey sussudio! |
| 14:35.59 | doughecka | I made a InstaGib version of X marks the spot |
| 14:36.33 | sussudio | thief |
| 14:37.02 | doughecka | :) |
| 14:37.04 | sussudio | map is NOT for download |
| 14:37.04 | doughecka | no |
| 14:37.12 | doughecka | I only edited the settings |
| 14:37.20 | doughecka | not the map |
| 14:37.46 | doughecka | cuz a) the map is messed up, no returnes b) I dont want to edit it |
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| 14:41.58 | Cell | hi captain |
| 14:42.14 | Cell | long sleep today? |
| 14:44.51 | Cell | its 10:50 PM i should go to bed but im hungry |
| 14:45.16 | sussudio | yeah have some fscking sauerkraut and bratwurst before you go to bed |
| 14:45.29 | Cell | where to get |
| 14:45.40 | sussudio | at the all night fatgerman shop ofcourse |
| 14:45.49 | sussudio | right next to the BIER BIER BIER BIER BIER bar |
| 14:45.51 | Cell | that is? |
| 14:46.14 | jzaun | BIER = BEER |
| 14:46.36 | Cell | ah sheis drauf ich geh jetzt noch in die disco |
| 14:46.41 | Cell | was essen |
| 14:47.00 | sussudio | yeah nothing like a 5 euro hotdog |
| 14:47.18 | Cell | ein gyros gibts da das weiss ich |
| 14:48.12 | Cell | mit zaziki sosse |
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| 14:50.16 | Cell | yaaaaawn |
| 14:50.52 | Cell | so tired of this cvs check in check out shit |
| 14:51.20 | Cell | the whole day was fucked up |
| 14:52.08 | Cell | bye |
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| 14:58.00 | BagMan | anybody know how you can monitor network trafic volume under linux? |
| 14:58.20 | doughecka | you work at sony? |
| 14:58.33 | doughecka | I dont know how |
| 14:59.23 | BagMan | does who work at sony? |
| 14:59.28 | doughecka | you |
| 14:59.34 | BagMan | yeah, how did you know? |
| 14:59.42 | doughecka | [17:00] *** BagMan (~jpetersen@ip-139-76.station.sony.com) has joined channel #bzflag |
| 14:59.43 | BagMan | reverse ip lookup? |
| 14:59.46 | doughecka | :) |
| 14:59.47 | BagMan | ah, hehe |
| 15:00.01 | Patlabor221 | SOE specificly |
| 15:00.04 | BagMan | yup |
| 15:00.29 | doughecka | (sublimele message: SEND ME SOME TOYS!) |
| 15:00.48 | doughecka | ~spell sublimale |
| 15:00.48 | | possible spellings for sublimale: sublimate |
| 15:00.51 | doughecka | bah |
| 15:00.56 | doughecka | dumb thing |
| 15:00.59 | sussudio | subliminal dumbo |
| 15:01.03 | doughecka | ~lart iibot |
| 15:01.19 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:01.25 | Patlabor221 | doug you don't even know what SOE does |
| 15:01.51 | doughecka | what to get... a 100 dollar palm, or a 500 dollar zaurus |
| 15:02.09 | sussudio | they do expect you to PAY for it |
| 15:02.14 | doughecka | indeed |
| 15:03.06 | sussudio | airtight muha |
| 15:03.19 | Patlabor221 | bagman, what do you mean by monitor? as in packets to/form the machine your running on, or more like whats going through a router? |
| 15:03.37 | sussudio | pfrt..... just use iptraf |
| 15:04.07 | Patlabor221 | well there there you go |
| 15:05.05 | BagMan | well, I have two cards in the machine (multi-homed) and I would like to check the volume on each card |
| 15:05.25 | BagMan | I think a program called iptraf will do that for me (talking on #redhat), but I don't have that program installed, so... |
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| 15:34.48 | Skipp | hey does anyone know where i can get a program to create maps |
| 15:35.00 | Skipp | i heard there is one out there |
| 15:35.36 | sussudio | no there isnt |
| 15:35.43 | sussudio | there's 2. |
| 15:35.56 | Skipp | i tried to get to your page but couldn't |
| 15:36.00 | Skipp | mikey gave me the url |
| 15:36.13 | sussudio | windoze or leeeeeeeeeeeenux? |
| 15:36.20 | Skipp | windows |
| 15:36.29 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/bzflag/ |
| 15:36.36 | Skipp | thanks |
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| 16:01.24 | Patlabor221 | doug! I have a job for you. |
| 16:07.05 | sussudio | mcdonalds? |
| 16:10.35 | Patlabor221 | worse |
| 16:11.39 | sussudio | kentucky fried faux chicken? |
| 16:12.20 | Patlabor221 | worse. non food serivce. |
| 16:12.32 | sussudio | msce? |
| 16:13.14 | Patlabor221 | close |
| 16:13.41 | Patlabor221 | documentation |
| 16:14.50 | doughecka | ? |
| 16:15.34 | Patlabor221 | can you make a HTML tutorial on how to make a map? |
| 16:15.38 | doughecka | um |
| 16:15.41 | doughecka | with bzedit? |
| 16:15.43 | Patlabor221 | using windows bz edit 1.52 |
| 16:15.45 | doughecka | sure... |
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| 16:15.47 | doughecka | k |
| 16:16.05 | Patlabor221 | then update it when 1.6 comes out. |
| 16:16.49 | doughecka | k |
| 16:18.20 | doughecka | how about a help file? |
| 16:19.07 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 16:19.11 | doughecka | k |
| 16:19.14 | Patlabor221 | HTML web thing |
| 16:19.31 | Patlabor221 | no need to make the DL larger |
| 16:19.40 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:19.47 | Patlabor221 | and then it can aslo be used by lin people since the interface is simialr |
| 16:20.25 | doughecka | hm |
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| 16:20.36 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o BZFlag ] by ChanServ |
| 16:22.38 | doughecka | screen shots? |
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| 16:42.28 | captain_proton | ./../lib/libLGE.a(LGE.o)(.text+0x244e): In function `LGEngine::GetResolutionName(LGEngine::ResInfo)': |
| 16:42.29 | captain_proton | : undefined reference to `string_util::format(char const*, ...)' |
| 16:42.29 | Patlabor221 | if you want |
| 16:42.34 | Patlabor221 | but make is simple |
| 16:42.53 | doughecka | ok doke |
| 16:43.03 | Patlabor221 | cap is there just not a format functiuon? |
| 16:43.23 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i wrote that function |
| 16:44.04 | Patlabor221 | they why is it a puking? |
| 16:44.19 | MrApathyCream | :) |
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| 16:47.27 | ak|ra | aebdn |
| 16:47.42 | jolly | hey akira |
| 16:49.10 | ak|ra | aaah, the man |
| 16:49.13 | ak|ra | _) |
| 16:49.32 | jolly | the man? lol |
| 16:51.01 | doughecka | Patlabor221: your gonna have to help me with these buttons |
| 16:51.19 | Patlabor221 | yo don't have to label them all |
| 16:51.21 | Patlabor221 | do the ones you don't know |
| 16:51.30 | doughecka | ... |
| 16:51.35 | Patlabor221 | and just put ??? in the ones you don't |
| 16:51.36 | ak|ra | tha patty man is here :) |
| 16:51.41 | Patlabor221 | sorry do the ones you do know |
| 16:51.42 | doughecka | heh |
| 16:51.45 | doughecka | k |
| 16:51.50 | ak|ra | hey killer |
| 16:51.56 | Patlabor221 | then when you are done send it to me and i"ll fill in the rest |
| 16:51.59 | Patlabor221 | killer? |
| 16:52.09 | doughecka | k |
| 16:52.14 | captain_proton | ak|ra: subversion works via webDAV |
| 16:52.37 | ak|ra | captain_proton: :) .. ok, and whats that? |
| 16:52.43 | captain_proton | web distributed authoring and versioning |
| 16:52.45 | ak|ra | you killer Patlabor221 |
| 16:52.48 | doughecka | oooh webdav! |
| 16:52.57 | ak|ra | captain_proton: and thats in depth what? |
| 16:53.50 | Patlabor221 | courts say I'm not suposed to kill any more. |
| 16:53.50 | doughecka | webdav is slicker that deer guts on a brass door knob |
| 16:53.50 | captain_proton | ak|ra: read the rfc :) |
| 16:53.51 | sussudio | HIPPIES! |
| 16:53.51 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/cam.jpg |
| 16:53.51 | ak|ra | gimme |
| 16:53.52 | captain_proton | its basically an extension to HTTP |
| 16:53.52 | ak|ra | ah |
| 16:53.53 | captain_proton | so it all works through a web server |
| 16:53.53 | ak|ra | ahaa |
| 16:53.54 | doughecka | oooogrrrr |
| 16:53.54 | captain_proton | apache2 in this case |
| 16:53.54 | ak|ra | the way i joked around earlier that day? |
| 16:53.55 | doughecka | forgot to remove the menu bar... |
| 16:53.55 | ak|ra | do all the information exchange through GET / POST ? |
| 16:54.12 | captain_proton | there's more than GET and POST, its a number of different commands |
| 16:54.23 | ak|ra | yep, but basicly its the same thing |
| 16:54.33 | captain_proton | PROFIND, OPTIONS, REPORT are some of the new ones |
| 16:55.11 | ak|ra | ok, but if i wanted to use anold server i could do this just with gets ans posts dont i? |
| 16:55.43 | captain_proton | you can look at the files via get |
| 16:55.56 | captain_proton | but webdav requires a dav-enabled web server |
| 16:56.11 | ak|ra | but you could do ALL stuff about get |
| 16:56.18 | captain_proton | http://bzflag.net:3000/svn/bzflag/lge-port/ |
| 16:56.22 | ak|ra | even sending a request |
| 16:56.57 | ak|ra | hehe, its .. subversive :) |
| 16:58.44 | ak|ra | to what system the linux kernel will move? |
| 16:58.50 | ak|ra | was it subversion? |
| 16:59.54 | captain_proton | linux kernel is on bitkeeper i think |
| 17:00.00 | ak|ra | ahja |
| 17:00.03 | ak|ra | that was it |
| 17:00.24 | ak|ra | i dont like subversion for the moment -> apache2 a need .. noe |
| 17:01.11 | captain_proton | bitkeeper has banal licensing |
| 17:06.55 | Patlabor221 | whooooot new interface is ascutaly working :) |
| 17:11.16 | MrApathyCream | lge is working? |
| 17:11.53 | captain_proton | it would be if i could fix this farking unresolved symbol |
| 17:13.35 | MrApathyCream | string_util::format? |
| 17:13.40 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 17:14.33 | Patlabor221 | ohh no I'm just trying to make bzedit run again |
| 17:14.38 | Patlabor221 | I busted the hell outa it. |
| 17:14.50 | MrApathyCream | cappy, who's method is this supposed to be, sdl? |
| 17:15.19 | Patlabor221 | can somone build the man pages as HTML and send them to me so I can put them in the next test intaller? |
| 17:15.24 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i pulled it outta the 1.8 sources |
| 17:16.32 | MrApathyCream | on sourceforge jeff |
| 17:16.58 | Patlabor221 | where, I didn't know where to look there |
| 17:16.59 | ak|ra | why the hell is the akira-chestal patch not working in newst 1.7 cvs? |
| 17:17.20 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: iirc in the patches section |
| 17:17.27 | sussudio | "Senate Approves Censored .kids.us Domain" |
| 17:17.45 | ak|ra | so, i go sleeping |
| 17:17.46 | ak|ra | night all |
| 17:17.48 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: care to svn up to lge-port and try it? |
| 17:18.02 | Patlabor221 | that would be why I didn't see it in the cvs section |
| 17:18.04 | Patlabor221 | see ya akira |
| 17:19.08 | sussudio | i bet mcdonalds already registered fat.kids.us |
| 17:20.31 | *** part/#bzflag Skipp (~Skipp@0-1pool61-156.nas23.thornton1.co.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 17:20.37 | Patlabor221 | what map should I inlude? decks or HIX? |
| 17:20.42 | Patlabor221 | or some other? |
| 17:20.52 | captain_proton | if you include decks people will just run it with 10 shots and flags |
| 17:22.09 | Patlabor221 | well then gimme another |
| 17:22.09 | captain_proton | HiX is already included, no? |
| 17:22.24 | captain_proton | Wayne Allard and Tom Strickland both say they're llamas, but let's look at the facts: |
| 17:22.29 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't seem to be in the CVS data dir |
| 17:22.29 | captain_proton | etween the both of them, they have 4 legs... therefore, they're each only half the senator that a llama would be!!! |
| 17:22.38 | captain_proton | And do you really want someone half as intelligent as a llama, voting on behalf of your state? |
| 17:22.43 | captain_proton | I think not. |
| 17:22.46 | captain_proton | Vote Ralph |
| 17:22.50 | captain_proton | Ralph the wonderllama... who cares. |
| 17:23.02 | captain_proton | This message paid for by the Ralph for Senate committee |
| 17:23.11 | sussudio | ~hammertime |
| 17:23.11 | | ACTION beats up doug |
| 17:23.18 | captain_proton | Because llamas are people too. |
| 17:24.44 | Patlabor221 | ahh it's in misc |
| 17:24.47 | [dmp] | Sometimes I happy that I cannot experience the american dir :-) |
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| 17:25.00 | [dmp] | dream even |
| 17:25.24 | [dmp] | ibot ducati |
| 17:25.24 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:25.26 | bzbot | Wingding (G): 29 (139-110). bzgirl (G): 17 (36-19). Freshman (R): -7 (7-14). baptiste (G): -1 (18-19). beep (R): -6 (14-20). DeadMeat (ProXS) (G): 7 (146-139). -<Vins>- (R): -2 (6-8). dig (R): 19 (76-57). |
| 17:27.20 | Patlabor221 | ok I have it set to make 3 servers |
| 17:27.28 | Patlabor221 | are these command line options ok? |
| 17:27.38 | Patlabor221 | Server\Start Server( Simple Jump Teleport 1 shot).lnk" "$INSTDIR\bzfs.exe" "-j -t -s 32 +s 16 -h" |
| 17:27.44 | Patlabor221 | Server\Start Server( Simple Jump Teleport 3 shots).lnk" "$INSTDIR\bzfs.exe" "-j -t -ms 3 -s 32 +s 16 -h" |
| 17:27.57 | Patlabor221 | Server\Start Server( HIX [Public] ).lnk" "$INSTDIR\bzfs.exe" "-j -t -ms 3 -s 32 +s 16 -world HIX.bzw -public DecksServ -publicList" |
| 17:32.56 | captain_proton | GASP |
| 17:32.58 | captain_proton | it compiled |
| 17:33.08 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara ~/projects/bzflag/lge-port]$ bin/bzflag |
| 17:33.08 | captain_proton | Segmentation fault |
| 17:43.56 | Patlabor221 | oh ftp://ftp.GibbsCAM.com/pub/outgoing/vizkit/BZFlag_1.7e8.exe |
| 17:44.06 | Patlabor221 | all cleaned up |
| 17:44.09 | Patlabor221 | uses HIX |
| 17:44.17 | Patlabor221 | included the man pages |
| 17:44.27 | Patlabor221 | put then in incons in start menu |
| 17:44.37 | Patlabor221 | installs into a folder with the version number |
| 17:44.44 | Patlabor221 | and makes coffie! |
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| 18:05.54 | *** join/#bzflag comwizz (~comwizz@194.165.161.70) |
| 18:05.59 | comwizz | hey |
| 18:06.02 | comwizz | i got a problem |
| 18:06.05 | comwizz | after compilation |
| 18:09.15 | sussudio | and the problem would be....an executable? |
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| 18:12.47 | comwizz | sussudio: sorry, yeah |
| 18:12.55 | comwizz | gives me an error |
| 18:13.04 | sussudio | like what |
| 18:13.08 | comwizz | it can't find /lib/libGLKit.a |
| 18:13.18 | sussudio | did you run ./configure ? |
| 18:13.28 | comwizz | hold on |
| 18:13.30 | comwizz | maybe i didn't |
| 18:13.46 | sussudio | hm does it even have a .configure |
| 18:14.01 | comwizz | nope |
| 18:15.15 | sussudio | are you even talking about bzflaG? |
| 18:15.25 | comwizz | has some problems compiling GL components |
| 18:15.41 | sussudio | hmm |
| 18:15.48 | comwizz | sussudio: well, an error that the bzflag executable is producing, not the game itself |
| 18:15.56 | comwizz | unless i'm being rude and offtopic-like |
| 18:15.59 | sussudio | linux or windoze? |
| 18:16.03 | comwizz | sussudio: linux |
| 18:16.29 | sussudio | it looks like libGLKit is created by the compile |
| 18:16.37 | comwizz | ya |
| 18:16.45 | sussudio | you're supposed to do make linux-i386 and make |
| 18:16.50 | comwizz | ah |
| 18:16.51 | comwizz | k |
| 18:17.32 | comwizz | ok, done |
| 18:17.34 | comwizz | might work now |
| 18:17.37 | sussudio | k |
| 18:31.54 | sussudio | :-P |
| 18:32.03 | comwizz | :D |
| 18:32.12 | sussudio | you're not running redrat, are you |
| 18:32.18 | comwizz | rpms are damn unreliable |
| 18:32.20 | comwizz | mdk :D |
| 18:32.29 | sussudio | redrat on crack |
| 18:32.38 | comwizz | heh |
| 18:32.40 | comwizz | ya |
| 18:32.44 | comwizz | stoned and high |
| 18:32.52 | sussudio | ~towelie |
| 18:32.52 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, sussudio |
| 18:33.00 | comwizz | lol |
| 18:33.02 | comwizz | ~crack |
| 18:33.02 | | ACTION thinks the party is getting out of hand |
| 18:33.07 | comwizz | ~crack |
| 18:33.07 | | ACTION thinks the party is getting out of hand |
| 18:33.11 | comwizz | ~redhat |
| 18:33.11 | | rumour has it, redhat is a linux distribution (http://www.redhat.com/) or one of the "primer" versions of linux till you learn enough to use debian. or sucks or a waste of money or a waste of time or messy |
| 18:33.21 | comwizz | lol |
| 18:33.22 | comwizz | ~mdk |
| 18:33.22 | | comwizz: no idea |
| 18:33.26 | comwizz | ~mandrake |
| 18:33.26 | | somebody said mandrake was the best linux distro or the worst linux distro |
| 18:33.31 | comwizz | :D |
| 18:33.37 | comwizz | ~rpm |
| 18:33.37 | | Red Hat's package management system. URL: http://www.rpm.org/ |
| 18:33.41 | comwizz | oh |
| 18:33.49 | comwizz | no "personal" comment? |
| 18:33.51 | comwizz | damn |
| 18:34.12 | sussudio | ~apt |
| 18:34.12 | | apt is, like, another blootbot which has a larger database and is much more bloated, but which is also quite sweet. |
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| 18:46.08 | sussudio | hmm magical weasels that give birth through their ears....... |
| 18:46.15 | sussudio | rare jongens, die oostenrijkers. |
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| 18:55.36 | Skipp_ | does anyone know how to put a map online once u have created it |
| 18:56.06 | sussudio | 'online'? |
| 18:56.34 | Skipp_ | i used your program and i want to play the game in the map i have created, how do u do that |
| 18:56.50 | sussudio | start a server |
| 18:56.54 | Skipp_ | k |
| 18:57.22 | Skipp_ | how do u start a server with the map i created on it |
| 18:57.41 | sussudio | http://jzaun.com/bzflag2/ |
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| 19:14.47 | Jeff_ | isn't the 1.7 revison 1_7? |
| 19:24.27 | sussudio | v1_7 |
| 19:25.21 | Patlabor221 | that's what it was, thanks |
| 19:36.20 | M_A_C | cappy: i'll put it down |
| 19:39.49 | Patlabor221 | MrApathyCream: The installer is all ready to go, I just need someone to look at my server options, and a final version |
| 19:42.28 | MrApathyCream | kul |
| 19:42.59 | sussudio | e8 is not ready for release. |
| 19:43.40 | Patlabor221 | then fix it |
| 19:43.48 | sussudio | you fix it |
| 19:43.56 | Patlabor221 | I ran in a window here and I didn't see any overlaping text stuff |
| 19:44.05 | MrApathyCream | cappy: svn co http://bzflag.net:3000/svn/bzflag/lge ?? |
| 19:44.06 | Patlabor221 | on pure 1.7 cvs |
| 19:44.22 | sussudio | because YOU dont see it doesnt mean it's not there. |
| 19:44.37 | Patlabor221 | mac: lge_port I htink |
| 19:44.45 | Patlabor221 | I didn't say it was not there |
| 19:44.51 | Patlabor221 | I am wondering how to get it |
| 19:44.53 | Patlabor221 | so I can see it |
| 19:44.54 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 19:44.59 | sussudio | i run at 800x600 |
| 19:45.08 | Patlabor221 | full screen? |
| 19:45.12 | sussudio | yes |
| 19:46.19 | MrApathyCream | hmmm got 404 error |
| 19:48.31 | Patlabor221 | http://bzflag.net:3000/svn/bzflag/lge-port/ |
| 19:48.38 | Patlabor221 | - not _ my bad |
| 19:49.40 | Patlabor221 | wow, takes a dump on res change on my machine |
| 19:49.44 | Patlabor221 | that is not good |
| 19:50.12 | sussudio | it always does that for me |
| 19:50.32 | Patlabor221 | interesting, I couldn't dupe that problem at home, nice that I can here |
| 19:51.00 | sussudio | i've never been able to change res inside bzflag |
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| 19:54.21 | M_A_C | Patlabor221: yup that's it |
| 19:55.13 | Patlabor221 | ok I see what overlaps now, the hud sqare and the text frame |
| 19:55.18 | Patlabor221 | it was just made taller |
| 19:58.34 | Patlabor221 | this sucks the web interface only shows the changes for 1.8 |
| 19:58.52 | Patlabor221 | ahh there it is |
| 19:59.05 | sussudio | can you add a toggle for flags-on-radar before releasing 1.8? |
| 19:59.10 | sussudio | i mean 1.7e8 |
| 19:59.33 | Patlabor221 | wern't they allways on radar? |
| 19:59.45 | sussudio | yes, i want to be able to toggle it on and off |
| 19:59.57 | sussudio | it makes the map infinitely more readable when they're off |
| 20:00.33 | MrApathyCream | patches welcome ;) |
| 20:00.36 | sussudio | i just commented out a line in RadarRenderer.cxx for it, but a toggle would be better |
| 20:00.48 | sussudio | i dont know c |
| 20:01.54 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: there should be a menu at the bottom where you can pick a branch |
| 20:02.04 | Patlabor221 | yah I see that now |
| 20:19.47 | captain_proton | i get a segfault on glGetString here |
| 20:19.55 | captain_proton | probably because its trying to do it before a gl context is bound |
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| 21:21.34 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | does anyone one have any tutorials for bzedit? |
| 21:22.14 | sussudio | no |
| 21:22.17 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | or a site i can go to |
| 21:22.35 | sussudio | http://goatse.cx |
| 21:22.38 | sussudio | :-| |
| 21:23.27 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | u sick sob |
| 21:23.44 | sussudio | you actually went there? |
| 21:24.04 | Widget | Gah. |
| 21:24.08 | Widget | sussudio, you're evil. |
| 21:24.13 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | u r a little QUeer your Dad GEts U u The bum dosent he |
| 21:24.30 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | up |
| 21:25.56 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | fAiget FaiGet Likes tO GeT It His bUm |
| 21:26.39 | sussudio | you're still there, aren't you? |
| 21:26.54 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | sussudio i bet your screen was all, white when u went to that site |
| 21:27.24 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | and it wasnt white 0ut |
| 21:27.29 | sussudio | actually, nobody with an IQ above 80 goes to that site |
| 21:28.01 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | then u should always be going there |
| 21:28.07 | Widget | 80? Wow, just over the bar... |
| 21:28.26 | sussudio | xxx is so witty |
| 21:28.29 | sussudio | for a tard |
| 21:28.41 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | whats yuor IQ sussudio |
| 21:28.44 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | ? |
| 21:28.47 | sussudio | 138 |
| 21:28.54 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | ha im 140 |
| 21:29.02 | sussudio | no you're not |
| 21:29.04 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | lololololololololol |
| 21:29.10 | sussudio | the goatse test proves it |
| 21:29.11 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | yea i am |
| 21:29.26 | Widget | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: 1. c4 |
| 21:29.53 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | sussudio go suck a nut |
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| 21:30.04 | *** kick/#bzflag [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU] by captain_proton (captain_proton) |
| 21:30.16 | sussudio | yay |
| 21:30.28 | Widget | Aua aua. |
| 21:30.32 | *** join/#bzflag xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (~d80882bc@chat.ircnet.org) |
| 21:30.43 | captain_proton | calm it down xxxxxx |
| 21:31.01 | sussudio | is a cashew technically a nut? |
| 21:31.02 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | when do u kick me off???? |
| 21:31.28 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | hold up ill ask your mom |
| 21:31.33 | sussudio | xxx: 45 secs ago |
| 21:32.27 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | no buddy |
| 21:35.31 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | dont piss me off or your mOm AiN t GeTTiNg AnY |
| 21:35.55 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | ThEn sHell Be PiSsEd |
| 21:35.57 | sussudio | go away you pimply faced young |
| 21:36.21 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | go SuCk 2 NuT S |
| 21:36.48 | Widget | De tirannie verdrijven die mij mijn hert doorwondt. |
| 21:37.00 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | no wait i dont want to take your moms job away |
| 21:38.07 | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | cause your MOM loves the C O C K |
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| 21:38.38 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 21:38.44 | captain_proton | i gotta pay more attention to this channel |
| 21:39.33 | sussudio | hert? |
| 21:40.22 | sussudio | how long does goatse traumatization last, usually? |
| 21:40.53 | Widget | sussudio: What's it supposed to be, if not hert? |
| 21:41.02 | sussudio | hart? |
| 21:41.18 | sussudio | hert = deer |
| 21:42.31 | Widget | In the old orthography it's hert. |
| 21:43.18 | sussudio | not unless you're hunting or somethin. |
| 21:43.23 | MrApathyCream | using sdl1.0 or 1.2? |
| 21:43.35 | sussudio | 2os[Windows 95 (4.0 - 950)] 2uptime[1h 5m 40s] 2cpu[1-AMD Athlon K7, 804MHz, 512KB] 2mem[Usage: 126/883MB (14.27%) [|---------]] |
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| 21:57.19 | MrApathyCream | bool LGEngine::ShowCursor() { |
| 21:57.19 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.19 | MrApathyCream | } |
| 21:57.23 | MrApathyCream | must return a value |
| 22:09.33 | MrApathyCream | hmmm ViewFrustrum in ViewCull and as separate file...? |
| 23:07.08 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: don't add ViewCull to the project |
| 23:07.14 | captain_proton | its unused at the moment |
| 23:08.04 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 23:08.45 | MrApathyCream | i'm using sdl 1.2.5, is that ok? |
| 23:08.50 | captain_proton | yep |
| 23:08.56 | captain_proton | any 1.2 SDL should be fine |
| 23:09.03 | captain_proton | even 1.1 would probably work |
| 23:09.13 | MrApathyCream | heh, link error string_util::format |
| 23:09.27 | captain_proton | lemme commit my latest |
| 23:09.33 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 23:12.11 | captain_proton | committed |
| 23:15.17 | MrApathyCream | same error, no? |
| 23:16.07 | MrApathyCream | hhm,,, common.h, who includes that? |
| 23:16.25 | captain_proton | *GASP* |
| 23:16.33 | MrApathyCream | rebuild all |
| 23:18.53 | MrApathyCream | ah much better |
| 23:18.56 | MrApathyCream | clean |
| 23:19.56 | captain_proton | input is screwed up |
| 23:20.07 | captain_proton | camera in 3d mode is screwed up |
| 23:20.10 | captain_proton | but it works! |
| 23:20.20 | MrApathyCream | hmm, using dynamic dll |
| 23:20.30 | MrApathyCream | ok, copying |
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| 23:36.54 | Patlabor221 | joo gots it working? |
| 23:37.05 | captain_proton | sorta kinda |
| 23:38.57 | Patlabor221 | there was a screwup in overlay mode |
| 23:39.13 | Patlabor221 | don't know if you got the fix. |
| 23:39.22 | captain_proton | right now bzflag sets up all its own camera stuff |
| 23:39.43 | Patlabor221 | then you won't have the screwup will you :) |
| 23:40.16 | captain_proton | whats the default view type? |
| 23:40.29 | Patlabor221 | proalby xy identity |
| 23:40.49 | Patlabor221 | 90 deg x rot |
| 23:41.07 | Patlabor221 | yah |
| 23:41.15 | Patlabor221 | least that's what it was in my code |
| 23:41.55 | scanline | Ooooooh... I can add tab support to xchat now |
| 23:41.57 | Patlabor221 | glLoadIdentity(); |
| 23:41.57 | Patlabor221 | glRotatef(-90, 1.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f); |
| 23:42.03 | captain_proton | hmm inits to 'identity' |
| 23:42.08 | captain_proton | i want 'manual' no? |
| 23:42.18 | Patlabor221 | then that's just |
| 23:42.18 | Patlabor221 | glLoadIdentity(); |
| 23:42.29 | Patlabor221 | that's what you want |
| 23:42.32 | Patlabor221 | manual is |
| 23:42.32 | Patlabor221 | glLoadIdentity (); |
| 23:42.32 | Patlabor221 | glMultMatrixf(m_aViewMatrix); |
| 23:43.03 | Patlabor221 | if your gonna do your own cam stuff, then you can call the matrix |
| 23:43.43 | captain_proton | ah wait, inits to IdentityXY |
| 23:44.04 | Patlabor221 | as I thought :) |
| 23:44.09 | Patlabor221 | just make it ident |
| 23:44.32 | captain_proton | just did |
| 23:44.36 | captain_proton | view is set properly now |
| 23:45.15 | captain_proton | up now |
| 23:45.54 | Patlabor221 | are the DSP's current? |
| 23:46.20 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 23:46.22 | captain_proton | depends on MrApathyCream |
| 23:46.44 | Patlabor221 | for the love of warnings man |
| 23:46.54 | Patlabor221 | lookit that sucker go |
| 23:47.26 | Patlabor221 | so did you replace the platform stuff? |
| 23:47.32 | Patlabor221 | or just sidestep it? |
| 23:47.47 | captain_proton | it actually compiles all the same stuff in now |
| 23:47.57 | captain_proton | there's still some platform code hidden in there |
| 23:48.26 | Patlabor221 | hmm it needs the sdl libs in the dsp |
| 23:49.10 | Patlabor221 | public: __thiscall ViewFrustum::ViewFrustum(void)" (??0ViewFrustum@@QAE@XZ) already defined in ViewCull.obj |
| 23:50.05 | captain_proton | don't compile ViewCull at all |
| 23:50.20 | Patlabor221 | I removed it |
| 23:50.25 | Patlabor221 | now it just dies |
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| 23:52.14 | Patlabor221 | it just goes to 800x600 and takes a crap |
| 23:52.31 | captain_proton | sets to 640x480 for now |
| 23:52.33 | captain_proton | takes a crap? |
| 23:52.41 | Patlabor221 | ell crashooooo |
| 23:52.56 | Patlabor221 | where do you set that, cus I can't debug at 640 |
| 23:53.20 | captain_proton | its somewhat hardcoded right now |
| 23:53.22 | captain_proton | lemme find the line |
| 23:53.36 | Patlabor221 | well proalby in the call to create |
| 23:53.38 | captain_proton | bzflag.cxx:909 |
| 23:55.48 | Patlabor221 | hmm winmedia, get window |
| 23:56.06 | Patlabor221 | if I put in w instead of fs does that not full screen it? |
| 23:57.03 | captain_proton | nope |
| 23:57.11 | Patlabor221 | how do I do windowed mode? |
| 23:57.24 | captain_proton | right now it doesn't work unless the modeline you set it to is in the map |
| 23:58.00 | Patlabor221 | and you only did fs huh? |
| 23:58.11 | captain_proton | you'll have to create your own ResInfo structure and add it to the map |
| 23:58.21 | Patlabor221 | or jsut hardcode the create : |
