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| 00:07.12 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:07.24 | Widget | What's a scanline? |
| 00:07.29 | Kasugai | Hey all |
| 00:07.33 | scanline | ? |
| 00:08.20 | Widget | The flexible variants of the Sicilian are best. |
| 00:08.25 | Widget | Like Taimanov. |
| 00:10.15 | sussudio | ~+hoda |
| 00:10.15 | | Hoda is obsessed with feces and cursewords. Keep away from sugar and standby on the ritalin darts... |
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| 00:16.47 | captain_proton | eddienull: can you do mac directory for world-cache? |
| 00:16.52 | akira_ | moin |
| 00:18.15 | eddienull | is the patch in cvs? |
| 00:18.31 | captain_proton | eddienull: i don't believe so |
| 00:19.04 | eddienull | on SF? how do I get it? |
| 00:19.14 | captain_proton | download the patch + 2 new files |
| 00:19.21 | captain_proton | use the 'patch' utility to apply it to your source tree |
| 00:19.55 | eddienull | and what's the specific issue hindering the mac client? |
| 00:20.15 | captain_proton | it needs to get a directory name for where to store the cache files |
| 00:21.47 | eddienull | the mac just uses the standard unix file system calls, anyone should beable to just apply the patch and have it work, or did you want a binary? |
| 00:22.11 | captain_proton | (homedir)/.bzflag-cache works for mac? |
| 00:22.23 | eddienull | yup |
| 00:22.32 | captain_proton | ok, we can eschew an if then |
| 00:24.13 | eddienull | the mac port is very minimal, not counting the platform display code, ~10 lines of bzflag code had to be modified, and that was only to fix naming differences for system headers |
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| 01:53.13 | hoda | nite all |
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| 03:04.09 | bomber | moin moin |
| 03:04.17 | akira_ | moin killer |
| 03:05.12 | bomber | not killer...mad scientist...:o)) |
| 03:10.23 | bomber | i am so happy today....praktikum with students :o)) |
| 03:10.47 | bomber | Pinguin: wie lauft RedHAt 8.0 |
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| 03:25.00 | akira_ | hehe |
| 03:27.04 | Pinguin | bomber: ganz gut ... ist ein bisschen bunzig |
| 03:27.44 | Pinguin | Ist auf dem mathematik-server ... |
| 03:29.21 | bomber | wozu brauchst du opengl ? |
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| 04:50.02 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
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| 05:15.36 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 05:15.36 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
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| 05:52.19 | Chestal | hi Sniper |
| 05:54.14 | akira_ | moinsen hr |
| 06:01.21 | Sniper50 | Hi |
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| 06:25.12 | doughecka | who was flaunting his bzcop status |
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| 06:40.53 | [TeA|]-[XP] | hohoho |
| 06:46.20 | [dmp] | merry xmas! |
| 06:46.22 | [dmp] | ibot ducati |
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| 06:46.23 | bzbot | intrix (G): 48 (151-103). Walter wolf (G): 7 (89-82). trubi (R): -3 (17-20). BiKo (R): -12 (22-34). |
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| 09:21.07 | bomber | back from praktikum |
| 09:21.11 | bomber | :o) |
| 09:21.18 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 09:21.18 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:21.19 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 09:21.23 | bomber | hush |
| 09:34.12 | doughecka | BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP |
| 09:34.26 | doughecka | hmm how did that happen? |
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| 09:36.04 | m0nkeyb0y | mornin |
| 09:36.17 | doughecka | noon |
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| 09:54.48 | akira__ | huhu? |
| 09:57.06 | doughecka | uhuh |
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| 10:19.47 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 10:20.07 | doughecka | Hi BZFlag |
| 10:20.11 | doughecka | Hi Chestal! |
| 10:20.13 | Chestal | BZFlag: what about bzfs -tk to activate the new team killing behavior instead of makign it the default? |
| 10:20.15 | doughecka | Hi captain_proton |
| 10:20.17 | Chestal | hi dough |
| 10:20.19 | doughecka | Hi ChanServ! |
| 10:20.23 | doughecka | Hi ibot |
| 10:20.25 | doughecka | um |
| 10:20.29 | doughecka | thats all the ops.. |
| 10:20.31 | doughecka | :) |
| 10:21.22 | doughecka | is there a way for leeenox people to watch WMP streams? |
| 10:21.42 | Chestal | wmp? aren't these .wmv? |
| 10:21.54 | doughecka | um |
| 10:21.55 | doughecka | yea |
| 10:21.59 | doughecka | whatever |
| 10:22.06 | doughecka | Windows media player streams? |
| 10:22.10 | Chestal | mplayer does this for me |
| 10:22.24 | doughecka | really? |
| 10:22.25 | doughecka | cool |
| 10:22.34 | Chestal | yes,I guess its using the windows DLLs |
| 10:22.40 | doughecka | hmm |
| 10:22.41 | doughecka | od |
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| 10:51.21 | doughecka | whats the US video format? PAL or NTSC? |
| 10:51.35 | sussudio | duh |
| 10:51.54 | doughecka | ... |
| 10:52.08 | sussudio | ~cluebat doughecka |
| 10:52.08 | | sussudio: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 11:22.42 | BZFlag | Chestal: patches welcome. though I'd recommend that teamkill is the default and non-teamkill requires a switch. |
| 11:23.07 | BZFlag | us is ntsc |
| 11:23.18 | doughecka | k |
| 11:23.42 | Chestal | suits me, too, I could make -tk = no death on teamkill |
| 11:24.16 | doughecka | yea! |
| 11:24.17 | doughecka | ;0 |
| 11:24.59 | Chestal | it would be a 'secret' server behaviour and not part of the gamestyle, yes? |
| 11:26.31 | Chestal | on the other hand, there are plenty of game style bits unused so far |
| 11:31.31 | doughecka | hmmm |
| 11:31.36 | doughecka | like? |
| 11:32.29 | Chestal | 0x0200 :-) |
| 11:34.06 | doughecka | ? |
| 11:34.07 | doughecka | :) |
| 11:34.16 | Chestal | that's one of the unused bits |
| 11:35.10 | doughecka | heh |
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| 11:53.03 | doughecka | hm |
| 11:53.05 | doughecka | 'lo [at |
| 11:53.07 | doughecka | Patlabor221 |
| 11:53.44 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 11:54.07 | Patlabor221 | yuv is want most cards do for speed |
| 11:54.12 | doughecka | well |
| 11:54.24 | doughecka | it captures it with inverted color |
| 11:54.33 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you should know well that doughecka wants slow and big |
| 11:54.39 | doughecka | captain_proton: ! |
| 11:55.49 | doughecka | I got realproducer and switched to something else, and it worked |
| 11:55.49 | doughecka | but windows media encoder decides to rename all the settings |
| 11:55.51 | Patlabor221 | he just likes to mess with things |
| 11:55.51 | doughecka | now its "Pixel format" |
| 11:55.53 | Patlabor221 | I guess I was kinda like that when I was 12-13 |
| 11:55.54 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you woulda chosen TIFF at 12-13? |
| 11:56.11 | Patlabor221 | cap, they didn't have tiff when I was 12-13 |
| 11:56.20 | captain_proton | if they did |
| 11:56.22 | doughecka | ok YUY makes it inverted... |
| 11:56.28 | Patlabor221 | hell I had a comadore36 and it was "the shit" |
| 11:56.40 | captain_proton | classtime |
| 11:57.16 | Patlabor221 | oooo a comadore 36 that would have been intersting |
| 11:57.30 | Patlabor221 | ooo those were huge |
| 11:57.37 | doughecka | oh? |
| 11:57.38 | sussudio | indeed. and hot. |
| 11:57.58 | sussudio | in my days we didnt need central heating! we had vic20 powersupplies! |
| 11:58.04 | doughecka | ok UYVY works... |
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| 11:58.48 | doughecka | BAAAAAAH it says "not supported" |
| 11:58.56 | doughecka | farkin machine |
| 11:58.56 | Patlabor221 | I rememeber the flopys drives and there PS's got hot too |
| 11:59.27 | doughecka | yay |
| 11:59.43 | doughecka | not its as slow as frozen butter |
| 12:00.24 | sussudio | Patlabor221 : just the 1541... the 1541C wasnt so bad |
| 12:01.45 | PerfectCell | need this(xor, implication, equivalent, dont know?) bit combine function: (1,0)->0; (0,1)->1, (1,1)->1, (0,0)->0 Is there a c++ binary operator for that? |
| 12:02.00 | Patlabor221 | I had 2 of them I don't remember what they were tho :( |
| 12:02.35 | sussudio | the 1541C was smaller and white |
| 12:02.44 | Patlabor221 | I think I had one of each |
| 12:02.53 | sussudio | i still have a 1581 too |
| 12:02.57 | sussudio | and a 1571 |
| 12:03.25 | Patlabor221 | cell, it looks like it just ignores the first one. |
| 12:03.30 | doughecka | ick now I need to fix my compression settings... |
| 12:03.35 | doughecka | and get a better antenna |
| 12:06.09 | PerfectCell | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:06.16 | PerfectCell | error in prev one |
| 12:07.17 | Patlabor221 | still the result is allways the second param |
| 12:07.47 | PerfectCell | shit its not possible |
| 12:08.03 | Patlabor221 | look at what you typed. |
| 12:08.38 | PerfectCell | no i mean there is no function that fits |
| 12:08.58 | Patlabor221 | so make one |
| 12:09.47 | PerfectCell | yes but the i need two binary ops |
| 12:11.13 | Patlabor221 | what if thre isn't one |
| 12:11.23 | Patlabor221 | make it work the long way then optimise later |
| 12:11.37 | PerfectCell | k |
| 12:12.41 | PerfectCell | i was changing a list while iterating through it, that gave a pretty error, the app did not respond |
| 12:13.17 | Patlabor221 | sounds like you changed more then the list |
| 12:13.50 | PerfectCell | i removed some elements while in a foreach loop |
| 12:14.50 | Patlabor221 | you should use a vector |
| 12:14.57 | Patlabor221 | you can do that in a vecotor |
| 12:15.05 | PerfectCell | really? |
| 12:15.09 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 12:15.25 | Patlabor221 | std::vector<thing>.erase |
| 12:15.36 | Patlabor221 | you pass it the itr |
| 12:15.43 | Patlabor221 | and it gives you a new itr |
| 12:16.01 | PerfectCell | but it starts from beginning? |
| 12:16.09 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 12:16.12 | PerfectCell | bad |
| 12:16.16 | Patlabor221 | you've never use stl iterators have you |
| 12:16.25 | Patlabor221 | you can have it start from where ever you want |
| 12:16.32 | Patlabor221 | begin |
| 12:16.33 | Patlabor221 | end |
| 12:16.35 | Patlabor221 | where ever |
| 12:16.37 | Patlabor221 | middle |
| 12:16.46 | Patlabor221 | nth element |
| 12:16.48 | PerfectCell | k sounds nice |
| 12:17.21 | PerfectCell | even though that could lead to some pretty hidden errors |
| 12:17.30 | Patlabor221 | they are harder to debug |
| 12:17.36 | Patlabor221 | but hey no memory manangment |
| 12:18.06 | PerfectCell | i mean the ArrayList class is the analogon to vector |
| 12:18.48 | Patlabor221 | then you should just be able to run thugh a while loop on it |
| 12:19.18 | PerfectCell | yes |
| 12:19.52 | PerfectCell | bad that SGI has not released OpenInvestor for windows |
| 12:20.30 | Patlabor221 | inventor not investor |
| 12:20.39 | PerfectCell | ah, sorry .) |
| 12:21.19 | PerfectCell | there are nvidia drivers for linux? |
| 12:21.38 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 12:21.47 | PerfectCell | good |
| 12:22.16 | PerfectCell | but sadly ther is no vc++ |
| 12:22.33 | Patlabor221 | anjunta is close enoght |
| 12:22.41 | Patlabor221 | and to a lesser extent kdev |
| 12:23.04 | PerfectCell | anjunta sounds like russian girl |
| 12:23.14 | Patlabor221 | it may be |
| 12:25.00 | doughecka | freaking websites... |
| 12:25.04 | doughecka | soooo hard to find stuff |
| 12:25.11 | doughecka | and google cant find it either |
| 12:25.13 | PerfectCell | i have very large vector<Face> and every face has a mat id, how to draw fast(less material changes ass possible)? |
| 12:25.51 | Patlabor221 | make a map of vectors |
| 12:27.25 | Patlabor221 | where they key for the map is the mat ID |
| 12:27.25 | PerfectCell | but i need the linear number(array index) to identify a face |
| 12:27.44 | Patlabor221 | then you need another vector that does that |
| 12:28.01 | PerfectCell | a mapping? |
| 12:28.12 | Patlabor221 | the map can be a map of vectors that are pointers into that index vector. |
| 12:28.24 | Patlabor221 | I have a "draw list" class |
| 12:28.33 | Patlabor221 | as I walk my linar object list |
| 12:28.40 | Patlabor221 | each object is told to "draw" |
| 12:29.06 | Patlabor221 | but all they realy do when they draw is add 'n' items to the draw list |
| 12:29.27 | Patlabor221 | they say I am going to draw something with this (m) material |
| 12:29.38 | Patlabor221 | for how ever many materials they use |
| 12:30.04 | Patlabor221 | so the draw list keeps a list of materials and who needs to draw with them |
| 12:30.17 | Patlabor221 | then when all the objcets are done |
| 12:30.19 | PerfectCell | so its a list |
| 12:30.27 | Patlabor221 | I iterate each material, load it |
| 12:31.00 | Patlabor221 | then run the list of objects that acutaly use that material, and tell them to realy draw there part that uses that material. |
| 12:31.11 | PerfectCell | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.54 | Patlabor221 | tho I don't use maps and vectors for draw list |
| 12:32.07 | Patlabor221 | I have my own class that dosn't alloc and free mem for each item |
| 12:32.16 | Patlabor221 | I allocate in chunks |
| 12:32.20 | Patlabor221 | for speed |
| 12:33.16 | PerfectCell | k, the vector template does allocate in chunks too or? |
| 12:33.50 | Patlabor221 | it can |
| 12:33.55 | Patlabor221 | there are other options |
| 12:34.07 | Patlabor221 | I could have done it with vectors |
| 12:34.14 | Patlabor221 | for me making my own was faster |
| 12:34.32 | PerfectCell | k |
| 12:34.48 | Patlabor221 | since I can have the chunk allocater look at my texture manager and object list classes to get a more inelelgent guess |
| 12:36.13 | PerfectCell | then u are well organized, as u said once: depens how organized u are |
| 12:36.37 | Patlabor221 | I just put all the managers into classes |
| 12:38.56 | PerfectCell | how difficult/costly would it be(for ur data structures) to remove a triangle or a lot of triangles ? |
| 12:40.00 | PerfectCell | since they have to be updated to be in a valid/operatable state after the removement operation |
| 12:40.55 | PerfectCell | u need to remove isolated vertices too |
| 12:41.18 | PerfectCell | or if u remove a vertex u need to remove all triangles that share that vertex |
| 12:41.36 | PerfectCell | and u have to remove isolated vertices too, if any |
| 12:43.15 | Patlabor221 | I don't deal with tris untill it comes time to draw |
| 12:43.32 | PerfectCell | oh, k |
| 12:43.40 | Patlabor221 | it's up to each object class to know how to draw it's self |
| 12:43.52 | Patlabor221 | baicly I ask each object if it's visible |
| 12:44.04 | Patlabor221 | if it is, I ask it how many textures it's gonna use. |
| 12:44.14 | PerfectCell | k |
| 12:44.29 | Patlabor221 | then when I am all done I tell them to now draw what they need with a certan texture. |
| 12:45.09 | Patlabor221 | it is obtimzed for "BZ" style worlds. |
| 12:45.18 | PerfectCell | k |
| 12:45.29 | PerfectCell | interesting |
| 12:47.14 | jpablo | ibot: ducati |
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| 12:47.49 | PerfectCell | how about if i have lot of mat id's and also have to distinguish if a face is selected, visible, frozen or unselected |
| 12:48.19 | Patlabor221 | then you need someting other then a single mat ID |
| 12:48.31 | Patlabor221 | a mat structure |
| 12:48.48 | Patlabor221 | and give them a < operatior |
| 12:49.11 | PerfectCell | what? |
| 12:49.20 | Patlabor221 | you can make your map key be antying |
| 12:49.26 | Patlabor221 | even another class |
| 12:49.41 | Patlabor221 | as long as it has a < oper then the map template can sort it. |
| 12:49.52 | PerfectCell | ah |
| 12:49.54 | Patlabor221 | I make maps that use strings as keys all the time |
| 12:50.07 | PerfectCell | and its fast? |
| 12:50.07 | Patlabor221 | texture manager uses one |
| 12:50.13 | Patlabor221 | it's binary sort |
| 12:50.21 | Patlabor221 | so it' prety good |
| 12:50.29 | PerfectCell | thats not fast |
| 12:50.50 | PerfectCell | O(n*n) |
| 12:50.55 | Patlabor221 | then just use a fixed array |
| 12:51.09 | Patlabor221 | asign an ID to each of the states |
| 12:51.24 | Patlabor221 | you'll waste some mem |
| 12:51.31 | Patlabor221 | but it'll be fast |
| 12:51.42 | PerfectCell | k |
| 13:10.34 | doughecka | wow |
| 13:10.37 | doughecka | busy person |
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| 13:15.37 | [TeA|]-[XP] | ibot ducati |
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| 13:17.58 | PerfectCell | dowload if u want: http://217.229.0.78/bs_mbistoobig.mp3 |
| 13:18.25 | doughecka | whats it? |
| 13:18.53 | PerfectCell | lol |
| 13:19.45 | PerfectCell | dieter bohlen |
| 13:21.56 | doughecka | ah, I see |
| 13:28.18 | PerfectCell | what's Gnome? |
| 13:28.29 | doughecka | linux thingy |
| 13:28.35 | doughecka | a window manager |
| 13:28.43 | PerfectCell | for linux |
| 13:28.52 | doughecka | yea |
| 13:28.57 | PerfectCell | k |
| 13:29.06 | PerfectCell | its the best? |
| 13:29.21 | doughecka | depends on what you think |
| 13:29.35 | PerfectCell | hm most frequently used |
| 13:30.09 | doughecka | dunno bout that |
| 13:30.16 | PerfectCell | k |
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| 14:04.30 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: got a panel manager? |
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| 14:09.33 | ak|ra | ibot ducati |
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| 15:53.03 | doughecka | greetings |
| 15:53.21 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 15:54.08 | doughecka | streaming tellyvision through out the house |
| 15:54.20 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 15:54.31 | doughecka | why a duck? |
| 15:54.45 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 15:54.52 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:00.49 | NonToxic | made my fans drop heh |
| 16:01.11 | doughecka | air even |
| 16:01.34 | NonToxic | heh |
| 16:10.18 | *** join/#bzflag xguy (~chris@pool-141-155-113-75.ny5030.east.verizon.net) |
| 16:10.59 | xguy | testing testing |
| 16:11.05 | xguy | nobody here? |
| 16:11.07 | xguy | bummer |
| 16:11.10 | doughecka | yup |
| 16:11.12 | xguy | hi |
| 16:11.15 | doughecka | ih! |
| 16:11.39 | xguy | i got a notice on sourceforge about an updated osx version recently |
| 16:11.45 | doughecka | oh? |
| 16:11.46 | xguy | do you know anything about this? |
| 16:11.57 | doughecka | hmm, slightly |
| 16:12.10 | doughecka | I heard there was some work on it |
| 16:12.17 | doughecka | but I dunno anymore |
| 16:12.21 | Patlabor221 | someone checked in some new changes to help it not crash |
| 16:12.30 | xguy | apparently eddienull updated the code to work with x/jaguar, but i haven't seen binaries |
| 16:12.38 | Patlabor221 | they tell me current 1.7 cvs is wrorking |
| 16:12.56 | Patlabor221 | yes no binarys have been made for it |
| 16:13.03 | xguy | how come? |
| 16:13.17 | doughecka | lazy |
| 16:13.19 | xguy | i'm fairly new to the sourceforge protocols... |
| 16:13.22 | Patlabor221 | moslty cus I think that there are very few mac devs |
| 16:13.33 | Patlabor221 | 1.7e8 is almost ready |
| 16:13.34 | xguy | that's what i figured |
| 16:13.48 | Patlabor221 | when that come I think that we will make binarys for all magor platroms |
| 16:13.53 | xguy | so is the idea that we compile ourselves? |
| 16:13.59 | Patlabor221 | usualy binarys arn't made for liitle updates |
| 16:14.05 | xguy | i see. |
| 16:14.21 | Patlabor221 | yes to get little fixes inbetween releases requires you to build yoursef |
| 16:14.38 | xguy | but if this WORKS on osx, which the previous didn't, it seems like it's a major update! |
| 16:14.54 | doughecka | indeed |
| 16:15.03 | Patlabor221 | there are other changes in there besides just that |
| 16:15.10 | doughecka | get your dev cd and install it, and compile the bins for everybody! |
| 16:15.12 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:15.13 | Patlabor221 | it picks up all the other general fixes |
| 16:15.15 | xguy | i'm fairly new to this, so i'm a little intimidated by building myself |
| 16:15.24 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:15.27 | xguy | the dev is installed. |
| 16:15.45 | Patlabor221 | then all you would have to do is get current CVS at the 1_7 tag |
| 16:15.55 | xguy | i haven't seen osx-specific instructions |
| 16:15.56 | Patlabor221 | then do a configure |
| 16:15.58 | xguy | not necessary? |
| 16:15.59 | Patlabor221 | then a make |
| 16:16.12 | doughecka | and type in : |
| 16:16.12 | doughecka | ./configure |
| 16:16.12 | doughecka | make |
| 16:16.22 | xguy | sorry ... go on |
| 16:16.28 | Patlabor221 | osx is unix based so it uses the same build procedure |
| 16:16.28 | doughecka | your done! |
| 16:16.33 | xguy | right. |
| 16:16.43 | xguy | perhaps i'll give it a go |
| 16:16.50 | NonToxic | sighs |
| 16:16.56 | doughecka | ok |
| 16:16.59 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:17.05 | xguy | thanks |
| 16:17.10 | Patlabor221 | doug have you ever built the osx version? |
| 16:17.17 | Patlabor221 | 1.7e8 should be out soon |
| 16:17.24 | xguy | pant pant |
| 16:17.24 | doughecka | nope |
| 16:17.25 | Patlabor221 | it's realy just being tested now |
| 16:19.00 | doughecka | grrr |
| 16:19.05 | xguy | waaaa |
| 16:19.27 | xguy | played on my roommates pc last night until 4 |
| 16:19.36 | doughecka | lol |
| 16:19.44 | sussudio | Patlabor221 : how about fixing the HUD first? |
| 16:19.55 | xguy | whawwrong with the HUD? |
| 16:20.01 | Patlabor221 | Tim busted it |
| 16:20.05 | sussudio | the windows overlap |
| 16:20.07 | Patlabor221 | that's the part thats beeing tested |
| 16:20.20 | Patlabor221 | or I sould say the bug that was found IN testing |
| 16:20.24 | doughecka | *GASP* |
| 16:20.33 | doughecka | BZFlag BROKE BZFlag? |
| 16:20.39 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 16:20.55 | Patlabor221 | noone is perfect |
| 16:21.06 | Patlabor221 | or I should say looks like he broke it |
| 16:21.11 | Patlabor221 | it may work fine for him |
| 16:21.13 | doughecka | heh |
| 16:21.25 | xguy | is it a cosmetic thing, or worse? |
| 16:21.39 | sussudio | i'd say text overlapping is bad |
| 16:21.45 | xguy | i see |
| 16:21.46 | Patlabor221 | its prety bad |
| 16:21.51 | doughecka | indeed |
| 16:22.23 | xguy | don't cause a scene you guys |
| 16:23.45 | xguy | anyway ... thanks for the info and advice |
| 16:23.50 | doughecka | ok doke! |
| 16:23.58 | doughecka | cya round like a donut! |
| 16:24.04 | xguy | cute |
| 16:24.15 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:24.18 | doughecka | mac irc.. |
| 16:26.46 | Patlabor221 | doug aprox $425 |
| 16:26.57 | doughecka | erg |
| 16:27.05 | doughecka | sweet... but I will pass |
| 16:27.19 | Patlabor221 | the regular 9700 pro is over $100 cheaper |
| 16:27.45 | doughecka | but I want a TV tuner |
| 16:28.00 | Patlabor221 | then get a crappy little tuner card |
| 16:28.06 | Patlabor221 | or a external USB one |
| 16:28.12 | doughecka | for how much? |
| 16:28.16 | Patlabor221 | or *gasp* a TV |
| 16:28.21 | sussudio | or get a tv |
| 16:28.33 | doughecka | have to go pick up the TV |
| 16:28.36 | doughecka | they got it fixed |
| 16:28.54 | Patlabor221 | external TV tuner $100 |
| 16:29.04 | doughecka | no external |
| 16:29.05 | Patlabor221 | sorry my bad $48 |
| 16:29.11 | doughecka | USB makes it drop frames |
| 16:29.25 | sussudio | get a usb 2.0 card then |
| 16:29.34 | Patlabor221 | PCI card $38 |
| 16:29.43 | Patlabor221 | with a remote |
| 16:29.44 | doughecka | no USB2 TV |
| 16:29.46 | doughecka | eh? |
| 16:29.49 | doughecka | from where? |
| 16:29.55 | doughecka | pricewatch? |
| 16:29.56 | Patlabor221 | guess genius |
| 16:30.21 | doughecka | what about this new digital TV |
| 16:30.26 | Patlabor221 | it will be a grand day indeed when you actualy think for yourself |
| 16:30.37 | doughecka | any cards support that? |
| 16:30.40 | doughecka | I do too |
| 16:30.53 | Patlabor221 | what HDTV? |
| 16:31.01 | doughecka | no |
| 16:31.04 | doughecka | DTV |
| 16:31.11 | doughecka | its the "new" thing |
| 16:31.14 | Patlabor221 | like digital cable? |
| 16:31.17 | doughecka | no |
| 16:31.22 | Patlabor221 | show me |
| 16:31.28 | sussudio | doug doesnt know |
| 16:31.28 | doughecka | like mpeg streams through the air |
| 16:31.29 | sussudio | as usual |
| 16:31.32 | doughecka | I do too |
| 16:31.38 | sussudio | ooooh mpeg streams through the air |
| 16:31.42 | sussudio | carried by avians! |
| 16:31.44 | Patlabor221 | where did you see this? |
| 16:31.56 | Patlabor221 | african or european? |
| 16:32.07 | doughecka | http://howstuffworks.lycoszone.com/accessdtv5.htm |
| 16:32.07 | sussudio | australian |
| 16:32.11 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:32.19 | doughecka | http://www.howstuffworks.com/accessdtv5.htm |
| 16:33.08 | doughecka | brb |
| 16:33.54 | Patlabor221 | ohhh that stuff |
| 16:34.15 | Patlabor221 | they just send extra info in the signal |
| 16:34.27 | Patlabor221 | I don't think it's real digital signals |
| 16:34.34 | Patlabor221 | it says it's still NTSC |
| 16:34.40 | Patlabor221 | aka "Never the same color" |
| 16:35.10 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:35.45 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's just that and they also talk about a HDTV card |
| 16:35.53 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:36.02 | doughecka | did you see the picture? |
| 16:36.22 | Patlabor221 | of the card |
| 16:36.28 | doughecka | Tuner-demodulator-mpeg decoder-pci |
| 16:36.30 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:36.37 | doughecka | it decodes mpeg |
| 16:36.45 | Patlabor221 | yes that's HDTV |
| 16:36.48 | doughecka | The demodulator retrieves the 19.39-Mbps digital stream from the channel. |
| 16:36.56 | Patlabor221 | yes HDTV |
| 16:37.05 | Patlabor221 | it's not boradcast much tho |
| 16:37.06 | doughecka | The tuner receives the signal from the antenna and tunes in a single channel |
| 16:37.19 | doughecka | I have around 3 stations here with DTV |
| 16:37.20 | Patlabor221 | I'm very happy that you can copy and paste |
| 16:37.37 | Patlabor221 | ok then spend over $100 and get a card that does HDTV decoding |
| 16:37.47 | doughecka | ... |
| 16:37.58 | doughecka | costs 400 bucks |
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| 16:38.07 | Patlabor221 | yeah shit isn't cheap |
| 16:38.23 | m0nkeyb0y | i hear its like gold |
| 16:38.23 | doughecka | also |
| 16:38.28 | m0nkeyb0y | shit is |
| 16:38.53 | doughecka | I have one TV station... a show pops up with "SURROUND SOUND" |
| 16:39.08 | doughecka | so they must have DTV... |
| 16:39.10 | doughecka | would be nice... |
| 16:39.15 | Patlabor221 | actualy not realy |
| 16:39.28 | doughecka | unless you have DTV |
| 16:39.34 | Patlabor221 | they can inccode noraml dolby pro logig in analog sounds |
| 16:39.47 | Patlabor221 | for that you just need a doply revecer |
| 16:39.53 | doughecka | indeed |
| 16:40.28 | Patlabor221 | non digial suround is common, its just stuck inbetween the L and R channels |
| 16:40.40 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:40.43 | Patlabor221 | an HDTV tuner won't change that |
| 16:40.54 | doughecka | you need a "real" tv for that then |
| 16:41.04 | doughecka | Mmm, dinner! |
| 16:41.12 | Patlabor221 | no you need a dolby pro logic decoder |
| 16:41.18 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:41.26 | Patlabor221 | and that's usualy in an AV revever/amp |
| 16:41.30 | doughecka | and a "Real" tv to recieve that extra stuff |
| 16:41.43 | Patlabor221 | what extra stuff? |
| 16:42.08 | doughecka | brb |
| 16:48.29 | doughecka | http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/html/wintv-d.pdf |
| 16:48.29 | doughecka | PCI or AGP? I cant tell the diference.. |
| 16:51.12 | Patlabor221 | PCI |
| 16:51.20 | Patlabor221 | if it's not a video card then it's not AGP |
| 16:52.03 | Patlabor221 | how much is it? |
| 16:52.10 | doughecka | umm |
| 16:52.13 | doughecka | 199 I think |
| 16:52.23 | doughecka | http://www.hauppauge.com/html/products.htm#digital |
| 16:52.33 | Patlabor221 | and you want to blow $200 do you can get 3 tv stations in an office |
| 16:52.48 | doughecka | hmm, nooooo |
| 16:53.05 | doughecka | in about 3 years it will be all digital |
| 16:53.22 | doughecka | gonna get cheaper I suppose |
| 16:53.22 | Patlabor221 | and tha card will be $25 in 3 years |
| 16:53.36 | doughecka | yup |
| 16:54.47 | Patlabor221 | so again I ask, you want to blow $200 for 3 channels |
| 16:54.47 | doughecka | nope |
| 16:54.47 | Patlabor221 | hell most broadcast stuff stucks anyway |
| 16:54.47 | Patlabor221 | only get 13 chans |
| 16:54.54 | doughecka | better quality than analog |
| 16:55.12 | Patlabor221 | so is digital cable and sat TV |
| 16:55.18 | doughecka | and there is one broadcast station that has a daily video |
| 16:55.28 | doughecka | but that costs money |
| 16:55.39 | doughecka | monthly fees... |
| 16:55.40 | Patlabor221 | yeah, that's why it's better |
| 16:55.56 | Patlabor221 | the boradcasters dosn't make any more or less money by being digital |
| 16:56.07 | Patlabor221 | so why should they? |
| 16:56.14 | doughecka | they will in 2005 |
| 16:56.28 | doughecka | cuz thats when the FCC is gonna switch |
| 16:56.31 | Patlabor221 | what is so special about 2005? |
| 16:56.32 | doughecka | and no more analog |
| 16:56.40 | doughecka | ever |
| 16:56.46 | Patlabor221 | riiiiiiiigggghhht |
| 16:57.05 | Patlabor221 | I think that's when the FCC is going to allow more of them |
| 16:57.12 | doughecka | nope |
| 16:57.13 | Patlabor221 | they will have to keep legacy stuff |
| 16:57.21 | Patlabor221 | where did you see this? |
| 16:58.02 | doughecka | http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/ |
| 16:59.34 | sussudio | damned |
| 16:59.35 | sussudio | fuck |
| 16:59.36 | sussudio | crap |
| 16:59.37 | sussudio | shit |
| 16:59.42 | doughecka | brb |
| 16:59.48 | NonToxic | oI! language! =) |
| 16:59.52 | Patlabor221 | doiug all I see there is the fact that they say it's not catching on very well |
| 16:59.54 | sussudio | bzflag locked up my keyboard again |
| 17:00.19 | m0nkeyb0y | i should remap my keys like sussudio |
| 17:00.39 | sussudio | i had to telnet in and kill bzflag |
| 17:00.53 | m0nkeyb0y | telnet? |
| 17:00.58 | sussudio | yes |
| 17:01.07 | sussudio | leeeeeeenux |
| 17:01.14 | m0nkeyb0y | i heard of telnet |
| 17:01.21 | m0nkeyb0y | leeeenux? |
| 17:01.25 | m0nkeyb0y | a kitty? |
| 17:01.30 | sussudio | gnuuuu/leeeeeenuuuuux |
| 17:01.36 | m0nkeyb0y | gnu snowboards! |
| 17:01.39 | m0nkeyb0y | i have one |
| 17:01.47 | sussudio | :-P |
| 17:01.49 | m0nkeyb0y | hehe |
| 17:01.51 | m0nkeyb0y | silly |
| 17:02.20 | m0nkeyb0y | www.gnu.com |
| 17:02.24 | m0nkeyb0y | ;) |
| 17:03.00 | m0nkeyb0y | good night all |
| 17:03.18 | m0nkeyb0y | sweet dreams ... if you do that sleep thing. |
| 17:03.26 | sussudio | sleep 8h |
| 17:03.43 | *** part/#bzflag m0nkeyb0y (~m0nkey_b0@129.24.163.222) |
| 17:37.31 | doughecka | In this Report and Order we will impose a channel election requirement, requiring |
| 17:37.31 | doughecka | commercial television stations with two in-core channels (i.e., channels 2-51) to elect their post-transition |
| 17:37.31 | doughecka | digital channel by December 31, 2003. |
| 17:39.22 | Patlabor221 | so they are saying that everyone in the us has to get a new TV? |
| 17:39.26 | Patlabor221 | that makes no sense |
| 17:40.35 | doughecka | but they said anyone who doesnt want to switch WILL be protected in the freq. but all TVs in around 2005 will HAVE to have DTV support in it |
| 17:41.07 | doughecka | and most stations will be digital only... |
| 17:44.20 | doughecka | where did you see those TV tuners on pricewatch? |
| 17:44.28 | Patlabor221 | use your brain |
| 17:44.39 | doughecka | I dont see any TV tuners |
| 17:44.45 | doughecka | I see capture.. |
| 17:44.55 | doughecka | but its all lens caps for cameras |
| 17:44.58 | Patlabor221 | use your brain |
| 17:45.50 | doughecka | PC TURNER CARD |
| 17:47.28 | doughecka | whats a VGA Multiplier? |
| 17:49.03 | captain_proton | it multiplies VGAs |
| 17:49.05 | captain_proton | dummie |
| 17:49.44 | captain_proton | whoa, my monitor is doing funny things |
| 17:50.10 | captain_proton | or it might be my X |
| 17:59.33 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d5113239.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 18:10.15 | doughecka | X = BAD |
| 18:13.38 | sussudio | Intel Releases "Fastest Chip Ever" |
| 18:13.44 | sussudio | from the nobody-gives-a-flying-fuck dept. |
| 18:13.46 | doughecka | oh really? |
| 18:14.01 | doughecka | how fastest is this chip? |
| 18:14.07 | sussudio | just 3ghz |
| 18:14.11 | doughecka | just.. |
| 18:14.30 | doughecka | riiight, people have overclocked to 1.8 |
| 18:14.41 | sussudio | 1.8 would be underclocked |
| 18:14.53 | sussudio | the thing uses 100 WATTS of power |
| 18:14.58 | doughecka | er |
| 18:14.59 | doughecka | 3.8 |
| 18:15.00 | Patlabor221 | actualy I have seen a XP OC'd to 2 gis |
| 18:15.10 | doughecka | oh? |
| 18:15.13 | doughecka | what XP? |
| 18:15.25 | sussudio | i really need a 3ghz p4 to read my mail |
| 18:15.25 | sussudio | NOW! |
| 18:15.37 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:15.39 | doughecka | and irc |
| 18:15.41 | sussudio | it also speeds up the internet! |
| 18:15.45 | sussudio | INTEL SAYS SO!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:15.48 | doughecka | everybody knows how IRC hogs a computer |
| 18:16.10 | sussudio | without this p4 i can not use MULTIMEDIA applications!!!!!!! |
| 18:16.16 | sussudio | and streaming video! |
| 18:16.21 | doughecka | hmmm |
| 18:16.22 | sussudio | on my 56k modem!!!!! |
| 18:16.22 | doughecka | indeed |
| 18:16.42 | doughecka | a yup, intel will make my modem go faster |
| 18:16.48 | sussudio | y3es |
| 18:17.11 | sussudio | the cpu costs about the same as a complete athlon XP 1900 system |
| 18:17.24 | doughecka | hah |
| 18:17.30 | sussudio | but will this athlon XP speed up my internet?!!?!?! |
| 18:17.35 | doughecka | nooooo |
| 18:17.40 | sussudio | AMD bastards! |
| 18:17.56 | doughecka | YEAH! |
| 18:18.19 | sussudio | and ofcourse i will use IDE drives on that P4 system! |
| 18:18.19 | NonToxic | ibot slashdot |
| 18:18.26 | sussudio | so it wont at all slow down to a crawl! |
| 18:18.27 | doughecka | a yup |
| 18:18.39 | sussudio | i mean, why, fuck why? |
| 18:18.47 | doughecka | 100 watts? |
| 18:18.51 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 18:18.54 | sussudio | i get less cpu overhead with a 1542 scsi controller |
| 18:19.07 | doughecka | how much wattage does a XP use? |
| 18:19.20 | sussudio | i'd have to look on amd.co |
| 18:19.28 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:19.35 | sussudio | i know it's less than the previous athlons |
| 18:19.39 | doughecka | oh? |
| 18:19.41 | doughecka | amazing |
| 18:19.44 | doughecka | ok... |
| 18:19.52 | doughecka | sooooo 100 watt cpu... |
| 18:20.03 | doughecka | 100 watt mobo? |
| 18:20.10 | doughecka | including cards? |
| 18:20.13 | doughecka | ok.. |
| 18:20.18 | sussudio | hm XP 2800+ |
| 18:20.27 | doughecka | 150 watt drives? |
| 18:20.41 | sussudio | umm drives use like 10 watts |
| 18:20.44 | doughecka | oh |
| 18:20.45 | doughecka | ok |
| 18:20.57 | doughecka | total wattage? |
| 18:21.07 | sussudio | look up the specs of your harddisk |
| 18:22.15 | sussudio | it's not like the full height scsi disks |
| 18:22.21 | sussudio | i think they used like 80 watts |
| 18:22.35 | doughecka | hah |
| 18:22.37 | sussudio | and made my desk shake on seeks |
| 18:22.53 | doughecka | ok then... |
| 18:22.57 | doughecka | cd burners? |
| 18:23.27 | doughecka | 1 amp for 12 volts 1 amp for 5 volts |
| 18:23.58 | *** join/#bzflag jzaun (~jzaun@jzaun.static.telerama.com) |
| 18:24.05 | sussudio | no way it uses 1 amp |
| 18:24.06 | doughecka | HEY jzaun!!! |
| 18:24.12 | jzaun | Hello |
| 18:24.13 | doughecka | sussudio: says so right on the drive |
| 18:24.22 | sussudio | yeah, MAX maybe |
| 18:24.27 | jzaun | anyone know gerbil's AIM or YAHOO name? |
| 18:24.32 | doughecka | jzaun: yup |
| 18:24.35 | sussudio | no |
| 18:25.07 | jzaun | doughecka: care to share? :-) |
| 18:25.17 | doughecka | hes not online... |
| 18:25.18 | doughecka | ok |
| 18:25.23 | doughecka | one is worldstrider.. |
| 18:25.35 | doughecka | on AOL |
| 18:26.05 | jzaun | ok... just have to wait for him to get online now :-) |
| 18:26.09 | doughecka | worldstrider on MSN |
| 18:26.12 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:26.13 | doughecka | indeed |
| 18:26.19 | sussudio | yeah, right.. frequently asked questions...... |
| 18:26.21 | doughecka | he has all his IM's on his website |
| 18:26.23 | sussudio | "What is the pricing strategy for the AMD Athlon XP processor? " |
| 18:26.27 | sussudio | i cant imagine anyone asking that |
| 18:26.32 | doughecka | sussudio: cheap? |
| 18:26.58 | doughecka | no no... the answer is .... we want to make it as expensive as possible |
| 18:28.32 | sussudio | jzaun: can you make me bzcop or take spiff's bzcop away? |
| 18:28.49 | doughecka | sussudio: if you wanna be bzcop, you could ask me |
| 18:29.02 | jzaun | well... the thing is... there is an imposter |
| 18:29.07 | sussudio | youre not running a server doug |
| 18:29.09 | doughecka | any bzcop can make another bzcop |
| 18:29.29 | jzaun | and take them away |
| 18:29.32 | sussudio | hm should be at least 2 |
| 18:29.53 | jzaun | but my point is, there is a imposter useing spacemans's callsign |
| 18:29.59 | doughecka | if you remove a bzcop, you better have a good reason |
| 18:30.02 | jzaun | sussudio: there are quite a few actually |
| 18:30.21 | sussudio | i mean, 2 bzcops should agree to make someone else a bzcop |
| 18:30.29 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:30.37 | doughecka | agreed bout that |
| 18:30.42 | doughecka | and 3 to remove? |
| 18:30.42 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:30.50 | jzaun | doughecka: One thing I'm working on is when removing you have to give a reason, and that reason is auto-posted to the news |
| 18:31.02 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:31.21 | sussudio | spiff is turning into dervish |
| 18:31.29 | sussudio | intimidating players that shoot him |
| 18:31.35 | sussudio | threatening them with his bzcop status |
| 18:31.47 | jzaun | sussudio: Are you sure it is Spaceman? and not the imposter? |
| 18:31.49 | doughecka | hmm.... spiff hasnt joined in awile |
| 18:31.55 | doughecka | so it might be an imposter |
| 18:32.01 | sussudio | jzaun: well it looked like spiff, 500ms lag |
| 18:32.08 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:32.19 | doughecka | ~seen spacemanspiff |
| 18:32.19 | | i haven't seen 'spacemanspiff', doughecka |
| 18:32.59 | sussudio | if i had bzcop i could at least check the ip |
| 18:33.05 | jzaun | he is online, let me go talk to him |
| 18:33.16 | doughecka | use your bzcop status... |
| 18:33.17 | doughecka | ;) |
| 18:34.16 | sussudio | bah amd's site is useless |
| 18:34.20 | sussudio | might as well google |
| 18:34.26 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:36.01 | [dmp] | ibot ducati |
| 18:36.01 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:36.03 | bzbot | duke (G): -6 (25-31). tank (G): -68 (51-119). Viktor! (R): -47 (48-95). Wingding (R): 87 (267-180). Crash (G): -15 (27-42). Jman (R): 26 (98-72). |
| 18:36.22 | NonToxic | bzbot source? |
| 18:36.25 | NonToxic | ibot bzbot? |
| 18:36.25 | | bzbot is probably heckamangroup.com/old/bzbot/gz |
| 18:36.37 | doughecka | wrong |
| 18:36.46 | sussudio | ok athlons use 'less than 60 watts' |
| 18:36.50 | doughecka | ~no, bzbot is heckamangroup.com/old/bzbot.gz |
| 18:37.00 | doughecka | ah, thats better |
| 18:43.27 | doughecka | prdownloads.sourceforge.net is down? |
| 18:45.38 | doughecka | We're Sorry. The SourceForge.net Website is currently down for maintenance. We will be back shortly |
| 18:45.42 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:46.32 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.216) |
| 18:46.38 | doughecka | lo |
| 18:48.42 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 18:48.48 | sussudio | ~lo |
| 18:48.48 | | i haven't a clue, sussudio |
| 18:49.03 | doughecka | 'lo is <reply> lo $who |
| 18:49.09 | doughecka | ~'lo |
| 18:49.09 | | doughecka: I give up, what is it? |
| 18:49.17 | NonToxic | ~lo is <reply>lo |
| 18:49.17 | | NonToxic: okay |
| 18:49.18 | doughecka | ~lo is <reply> lo $who |
| 18:49.18 | | ...but lo is already something else... |
| 18:49.18 | sussudio | muhaha |
| 18:49.22 | NonToxic | ~lo |
| 18:49.22 | | lo |
| 18:49.24 | doughecka | MOINK! |
| 18:49.37 | doughecka | ~no, no is lo is <reply> lo $who |
| 18:49.43 | NonToxic | ~no |
| 18:49.43 | | YES |
| 18:49.48 | doughecka | grr |
| 18:49.56 | doughecka | ~no, lo is <reply> lo $who |
| 18:50.00 | doughecka | ~lo |
| 18:50.00 | | lo |
| 18:50.03 | NonToxic | ~booom is <reply>~booom |
| 18:50.03 | | NonToxic: okay |
| 18:50.05 | doughecka | farking machine |
| 18:50.07 | NonToxic | ~booom |
| 18:50.07 | | ~booom |
| 18:50.10 | NonToxic | awww |
| 18:50.18 | sussudio | -|- (Dr._Alban)_[07]_Hello_Afrika.mp3 (8,323,967 bytes 192kbps VBR Joint Stereo 5mins 47secs Genre:Eurodance Year:1991 Album:Hello Afrika |
| 18:51.08 | sussudio | arf |
| 18:51.36 | *** join/#bzflag bzdougggg (~blah@adsl-39-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 18:54.57 | NonToxic | frA |
| 18:55.16 | sussudio | woem |
| 18:55.25 | bzdougggg | ying |
| 18:55.40 | NonToxic | you got it wrong bzdougggg |
| 18:55.44 | NonToxic | gniy??? |
| 18:56.10 | *** join/#bzflag BZFlag (timr@rikers.org) |
| 18:56.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o BZFlag ] by ChanServ |
| 18:56.26 | NonToxic | hi BZFlag! |
| 18:56.39 | *** join/#bzflag bzdougggg (~blah@208.147.39.133) |
| 18:57.47 | bzdougggg | bloody dsl |
| 18:57.48 | NonToxic | BZFlag: where can I grab a protocol spec for BZFlag? |
| 18:57.49 | NonToxic | I want to write an iPAQ client |
| 18:57.50 | sussudio | you can download the sources |
| 18:57.53 | bzdougggg | NonToxic: oh dear... |
| 18:57.56 | MrApathyCream | protocol.h in include directory |
| 18:58.07 | NonToxic | yes but sources are not easy to read protocol docs |
| 18:58.11 | NonToxic | is there a doc out there? |
| 18:58.19 | sussudio | i think there's a nurse |
| 18:58.46 | MrApathyCream | proto will change anyway, post 1.7e8 |
| 18:58.54 | MrApathyCream | bbl |
| 19:05.32 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 19:05.38 | bzdougggg | ick |
| 19:05.47 | captain_proton | i would rip spiff a new one if he wasn't so goddamn lagged |
| 19:05.56 | bzdougggg | heh |
| 19:06.52 | jzaun | cat cap |
| 19:06.58 | jzaun | hey cap :-P |
| 19:07.17 | bzdougggg | cat cap > /dev/null |
| 19:07.19 | captain_proton | the highspeed just makes it impossible to hit anyone > 300ms |
| 19:07.41 | jzaun | very true |
| 19:08.46 | captain_proton | maybe thats why he's been playing there the last few days |
| 19:32.47 | sussudio | Map Uploaded |
| 19:32.48 | sussudio | lalala |
| 19:33.10 | bzdougggg | um |
| 19:33.24 | sussudio | LAAAAA |
| 19:33.58 | bzdougggg | ah, thats better |
| 19:35.44 | sussudio | i save PNG with compression level 9 and it's still twice as big as GIF |
| 19:35.58 | bzdougggg | good! |
| 19:37.35 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/xspot.jpg |
| 19:37.37 | sussudio | blaaa |
| 19:37.44 | sussudio | 20 or 30 mins work |
| 19:37.55 | bzdougggg | ick |
| 19:38.03 | sussudio | ick?! |
| 19:38.28 | bzdougggg | how long it took |
| 19:38.35 | sussudio | too long? |
| 19:38.41 | bzdougggg | yea |
| 19:38.50 | sussudio | well, it's not spirals |
| 19:38.55 | bzdougggg | indeed |
| 19:39.01 | bzdougggg | that took 2 hours |
| 19:39.19 | sussudio | in doghours? |
| 19:39.41 | sussudio | NO! |
| 19:39.45 | sussudio | EAT MORE RAISINS! |
| 19:39.52 | sussudio | WITH WHIPPED CREAM! |
| 19:39.58 | sussudio | and ketchup. |
| 19:40.20 | bzdougggg | um |
| 19:40.26 | bzdougggg | thats explains your diet |
| 19:47.27 | sussudio | snort |
| 19:48.16 | bzdougggg | grr |
| 19:48.29 | bzdougggg | random maps my foot |
| 19:48.35 | bzdougggg | I got the same map |
| 19:49.05 | bzdougggg | going through the list... |
| 19:50.13 | bzdougggg | hmm |
| 19:50.13 | sussudio | ummmmmmmmmm |
| 19:50.16 | sussudio | it's running on 5156 |
| 19:50.17 | sussudio | duh |
| 19:50.17 | bzdougggg | got alphabet |
| 19:50.21 | bzdougggg | oh? |
| 19:50.50 | bzdougggg | . |
| 19:50.52 | bzdougggg | .. |
| 19:50.53 | bzdougggg | ... |
| 20:03.38 | sussudio | muha |
| 20:03.53 | sussudio | maybe i should turn off SW there |
| 20:04.00 | sussudio | or make it ALL SW |
| 20:05.53 | bzdougggg | yea! |
| 20:05.54 | bzdougggg | :) |
| 20:06.16 | sussudio | or all laser |
| 20:07.36 | bzdougggg | hmm |
| 20:07.38 | bzdougggg | maybe |
| 20:07.41 | bzdougggg | and no ric |
| 20:07.54 | sussudio | beats all stealth |
| 20:08.33 | bzdougggg | hrm |
| 20:08.58 | sussudio | spiff doesnt clean up his maps |
| 20:09.09 | sussudio | there's all sort of overlapping crap..... makes the walls flicker |
| 20:09.49 | bzdougggg | heh |
| 20:13.31 | bzdougggg | hmm, TVoverIP |
| 20:13.36 | bzdougggg | sounds slick |
| 20:28.59 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d511328b.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 20:32.23 | bzdougggg | silly server launching thing... |
| 20:32.25 | bzdougggg | dont work at all |
| 20:37.17 | bzdougggg | jzaun: some maps work with the server launching thing, but some maps dont |
| 21:05.25 | sussudio | -|- (Bread)_[08]_Let_Your_Love_Go.mp3 (3,543,579 bytes 201kbps VBR Joint Stereo 2mins 22secs Genre:Pop Year:1985 Album:Anthology Of Bread |
| 21:15.16 | *** join/#bzflag bzdougggg (~blah@adsl-39-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 21:31.28 | sussudio | bzbot bzfquerylong 24.80.130.30 5155 |
| 21:31.44 | sussudio | ibot bzfquerylong 24.80.130.30 5155 |
| 21:31.44 | | i haven't a clue, sussudio |
| 21:31.48 | sussudio | ibot jzaun |
| 21:31.48 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 21:31.50 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 21:31.52 | sussudio | bzfquerylong 24.80.130.30 5155 |
| 21:31.54 | bzbot | Cougyr (r): -10 (0-10). stef (P): -13 (6-19). RIpeBuds (P): -18 (3-21). sussudio (r): 50 (63-13). StinkyFinger (B): -2 (11-13). Rick O'Shea (B): 0 (2-2). |
| 21:31.56 | bzdougggg | no lon |
| 21:32.01 | sussudio | bwa ha ha |
| 21:32.05 | sussudio | losers...... |
| 21:32.18 | sussudio | 52 points between me and #2 |
| 21:33.56 | NonToxic | sussudio: no, 50 |
| 21:34.01 | NonToxic | sussudio (r): 50 (63-13). |
| 21:34.05 | NonToxic | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.12 | sussudio | well it was 52 |
| 21:34.17 | bzdougggg | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 21:34.27 | sussudio | ok, i lasercamped about 20 points |
| 21:34.33 | Patlabor221 | why do you keep geting more g's in your name as the day goes on? |
| 21:34.38 | sussudio | but thats only cause swinepiggy doesnt add pyramids to his maps |
| 21:34.45 | bzdougggg | reconnects |
| 21:34.57 | Patlabor221 | so re-nick |
| 21:37.07 | NonToxic | g |
| 21:37.33 | bzdougg | that would be more work |
| 21:37.48 | bzdougg | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.22 | NonToxic | register all your nicks then link 'em up! |
| 21:38.26 | NonToxic | or set an on connect command! |
| 21:38.31 | bzdougg | I did |
| 21:38.51 | bzdougg | but open reconnecting it does reconnect till the old username disapears |
| 21:39.28 | Patlabor221 | well don't use trillian, it kinda sucks at IRC |
| 21:39.39 | bzdougg | oooh, Patlabor221's on leeeenox? |
| 21:40.30 | Patlabor221 | I am on x-chat now |
| 21:40.56 | bzdougg | xchat 1.8.10 Linux 2.4.18-14 [i686/601MHz] |
| 21:41.40 | bzdougg | I know everything about you..... bwuahahah |
| 21:41.45 | Patlabor221 | surrreeee yuo do |
| 21:42.08 | bzdougg | I know you cant spell |
| 21:42.38 | Patlabor221 | or that I pretend rather well that I can't |
| 21:42.48 | bzdougg | indeed |
| 21:45.34 | sussudio | there's some mighty sad people on this world |
| 21:45.42 | sussudio | i forgot his name........... |
| 21:45.44 | bzdougg | booohooo |
| 21:45.47 | sussudio | crossdressing "DJ" |
| 21:45.53 | sussudio | jerking off to 9/11 |
| 21:45.58 | sussudio | wiping his dick with the american flag |
| 21:46.08 | sussudio | they showed this on friggin daytime news |
| 21:46.24 | sussudio | everybody just said "well, he's just sad" |
| 21:46.31 | sussudio | amsterdam freaks |
| 21:52.08 | bzdougg | indeed |
| 21:52.31 | sussudio | the national newsorganisation thought so |
| 21:52.42 | sussudio | they should probably deport him to new york |
| 22:01.46 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (~blah@adsl-39-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 22:02.12 | doughecka | oh |
| 22:02.15 | doughecka | silly ISP, rebooted all the routers |
| 22:04.19 | BZFlag | well, the windows servers need periodic reboots. don't the routers too? |
| 22:04.40 | doughecka | well |
| 22:04.47 | doughecka | it was at 12:00 sharp |
| 22:05.11 | sussudio | why do routers need reboots? |
| 22:05.33 | sussudio | only reason i can think of is firmware upgrades |
| 22:05.53 | doughecka | all I know that at 12:00 the net stopped... then at 12:01, I could get the ISP homepage, but no net, then at 12:02 the net reconnected |
| 22:06.17 | sussudio | i mean, last time i rebooted my 486 router was because it was covered in dust from being up for about a year |
| 22:06.24 | sussudio | so i vacuumed it |
| 22:06.27 | doughecka | ah |
| 22:06.36 | doughecka | well... they must have been upgradin |
| 22:06.38 | BZFlag | when I had to admin a windows server back in boston, I literally had a script running on it that would force it to reboot every day at like 2 am. |
| 22:06.38 | doughecka | or something |
| 22:06.47 | BZFlag | it kept the box much more stable. |
| 22:06.47 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:06.49 | sussudio | my router runs leeeeeeeeeeeeenux |
| 22:06.50 | doughecka | I bet |
| 22:07.21 | BZFlag | I only admin one win* box now. it's a citrix server that hardly anyone uses. |
| 22:07.33 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:07.44 | BZFlag | the other 20+ systems are all linux with one solaris machine. |
| 22:07.52 | doughecka | cool |
| 22:08.13 | BZFlag | I never reboot boxes except for hardware trouble. (like oss.lineo.com had this week) |
| 22:08.25 | doughecka | ah |
| 22:10.00 | BZFlag | sussudio: so did the vacuume cause the reboot or was that just for fun? |
| 22:10.08 | BZFlag | ~spell vacume |
| 22:10.08 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'vacume' |
| 22:10.12 | BZFlag | ~spell vacuume |
| 22:10.12 | | possible spellings for vacuume: vacuumed vacuum vacuums |
| 22:10.14 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:10.29 | BZFlag | ~dict vacuum |
| 22:10.35 | BZFlag | ah |
| 22:10.53 | doughecka | cleared me up |
| 22:13.32 | sussudio | BZFlag: no, i took it apart and vacuumed it |
| 22:16.03 | Patlabor221 | yay I am finaly a warlock |
| 22:16.21 | doughecka | um, I am glad for you.... |
| 22:16.22 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/cam.jpg |
| 22:16.24 | sussudio | routah |
| 22:16.36 | doughecka | I HAD ONE OF THOSE! |
| 22:16.45 | doughecka | I sold it for 20 bucks... |
| 22:16.53 | sussudio | wha? |
| 22:17.08 | sussudio | you sold a prolinea 486 for 20 dollah? |
| 22:17.15 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:17.21 | doughecka | no a prolinea |
| 22:17.28 | doughecka | a deskpro |
| 22:17.45 | sussudio | :-| |
| 22:22.27 | doughecka | 01101001001000000110000101101101001000000110001001 10000101110100011011010110000101101110 |
| 22:26.09 | BZFlag | http://guest:guest@rikers.org:8000/ |
| 22:26.36 | doughecka | slick |
| 22:26.40 | doughecka | now off to bed |
| 22:27.15 | doughecka | hah |
| 22:27.15 | doughecka | cool |
| 22:28.07 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:28.34 | BZFlag | now I need to make it beep of something so I can tell when people are watching. |
| 22:28.49 | doughecka | slick |
| 22:28.58 | doughecka | off to bed... |
| 22:29.00 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:30.11 | *** join/#bzflag hoda (~hoda@12-221-176-131.client.insightBB.com) |
| 22:30.16 | sussudio | ~+hoda |
| 22:30.16 | | Hoda is obsessed with feces and cursewords. Keep away from sugar and standby on the ritalin darts... |
| 22:30.25 | Patlabor221 | my windows cam software would suposedly do that too |
| 22:30.27 | hoda | hi all |
| 22:30.31 | Patlabor221 | just ahve to open the nat |
| 22:30.50 | hoda | yo pat scope this mesh |
| 22:30.57 | BZFlag | heh. I just did an ssh port forward for the moment. ;-) |
| 22:32.39 | BZFlag | hello tux. ;-) |
| 22:32.53 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ...tux? |
| 22:32.53 | Patlabor221 | he looks a little baten and brused |
| 22:33.12 | BZFlag | http://guest:guest@rikers.org:8000/ |
| 22:33.22 | Patlabor221 | hoda why so much detail in the guns, and none in the rest of it? |
| 22:33.52 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.216) |
| 22:33.55 | captain_proton | lotta noise in that pic |
| 22:34.27 | hoda | there modeled out of prims |
| 22:34.34 | hoda | seperately |
| 22:34.42 | hoda | cept for some parts |
| 22:34.51 | BZFlag | captain_proton: yeah. low light. |
| 22:34.58 | hoda | in my game matter and devices and generated |
| 22:35.00 | BZFlag | what kind of frame rate do you get? |
| 22:35.05 | hoda | *are |
| 22:35.16 | Patlabor221 | hoda: still, it seems odd that they are soo difrent |
| 22:35.20 | hoda | so its like cookie cutter fabrication |
| 22:35.22 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i'm getting just about 1fps |
| 22:35.25 | Patlabor221 | and it looks like a bike. |
| 22:35.37 | Patlabor221 | BZFlag: I was geting about 3 |
| 22:35.57 | BZFlag | better? |
| 22:36.08 | captain_proton | now about 2 |
| 22:37.10 | BZFlag | I meant the quality. |
| 22:37.20 | MrApathyCream | nice job jeff! <installer> |
| 22:37.36 | captain_proton | ohh |
| 22:37.38 | Patlabor221 | it still needs a tad bit of tweaking |
| 22:37.38 | captain_proton | quality is much better |
| 22:37.43 | Patlabor221 | but I stayed home sick today |
| 22:37.53 | BZFlag | I just turned on some more lights. ;-) |
| 22:37.55 | captain_proton | still some pretty nasty jpg artifacts |
| 22:38.39 | hoda | scope that pic pat |
| 22:38.47 | hoda | ohhhhh |
| 22:38.53 | hoda | my firewall is up |
| 22:38.58 | Patlabor221 | hoda: I can't DCC but I did see it |
| 22:39.12 | BZFlag | yep. well. that's all for tonight. ;-) |
| 22:39.29 | Patlabor221 | MrApathyCream: I will make the last couple changes then give ether you or cap the 3 files that need to go into cvs for it. |
| 22:39.44 | MrApathyCream | nice.... is it a go then? the new installer? |
| 22:39.49 | hoda | !ping |
| 22:39.59 | hoda | ~ping |
| 22:39.59 | | pong |
| 22:40.01 | Patlabor221 | bzflag had no objections |
| 22:40.09 | MrApathyCream | I like the sample server menu items |
| 22:40.14 | MrApathyCream | cool |
| 22:40.17 | Patlabor221 | as do I |
| 22:40.25 | Patlabor221 | I just want to move them into a subfolder |
| 22:40.32 | MrApathyCream | yes, that would be nice |
| 22:40.33 | Patlabor221 | and add in the correct liscense |
| 22:40.52 | MrApathyCream | so it's just one script file? |
| 22:40.54 | Patlabor221 | and tweak some of the settings on those servers |
| 22:41.00 | Patlabor221 | 1 script and 2 bmps |
| 22:41.04 | MrApathyCream | nice! |
| 22:41.07 | Patlabor221 | the bmps are for the checkboxes |
| 22:41.17 | Patlabor221 | without them we get llamas |
| 22:41.24 | MrApathyCream | yes, i saw them originally :) |
| 22:41.39 | Patlabor221 | I want to try and make the checkboxes tanks :) |
| 22:41.51 | BZFlag | is there a script ready for cvs? I have not actually tried it yet, but I plan to. gotta find a windows box first. ;-) |
| 22:41.53 | MrApathyCream | woowoo |
| 22:42.00 | BZFlag | well, nite. |
| 22:42.03 | Patlabor221 | but it pulls all the other files from the build dirs |
| 22:42.12 | Patlabor221 | and puts the compiled installer in the bin dir |
| 22:43.28 | MrApathyCream | that will be so much better |
| 22:43.33 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:43.35 | MrApathyCream | the original one was gonna bust sooner or later |
| 22:44.11 | Patlabor221 | i've also set it up so that all you have to do is change the version number in one place in the script and it changes it everywhere |
| 22:44.18 | Patlabor221 | even the exe it makes |
| 22:44.33 | Patlabor221 | any thoughts on having each install go into it's own folder? |
| 22:44.54 | MrApathyCream | each install? |
| 22:45.01 | Patlabor221 | each version sorry |
| 22:45.01 | MrApathyCream | each version? |
| 22:45.03 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:45.12 | MrApathyCream | would be good, but not necessary |
| 22:45.20 | Patlabor221 | it's realy easy to do |
| 22:45.28 | Patlabor221 | I had it set up like that but then I changed it |
| 22:45.32 | MrApathyCream | so you're modifying the dsp's? |
| 22:45.38 | MrApathyCream | <to change versions> |
| 22:45.46 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 22:45.54 | Patlabor221 | i meant just the iinstaller script |
| 22:45.58 | MrApathyCream | oh, ok |
| 22:46.01 | MrApathyCream | that's fine |
| 22:46.09 | Patlabor221 | it uses the version in a number of places |
| 22:46.19 | Patlabor221 | but it's basicly #defined at the top of the script |
| 22:52.48 | Patlabor221 | wheeee they nyquill is kicking in |
| 22:52.48 | Patlabor221 | so I'm off |
| 23:17.26 | *** join/#bzflag jp_ZzZzZ (~jpablo@dsl-200-67-6-1.prodigy.net.mx) |
| 23:26.47 | sussudio | there's a cheater on noodleroni |
