| 00:23.53 | captain_proton | finally |
| 01:39.33 | MrApathyCream | is it working? |
| 01:41.58 | Andre4s | now I need help again |
| 01:42.38 | Andre4s | I have donwloaded a new level .. but can't use it. I did like this. bzflag -world level.bzw |
| 01:46.08 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: not yet |
| 01:47.10 | captain_proton | i'm still working on the res-switching code |
| 01:47.32 | captain_proton | once thats done i think a good portion of the platform code can be replaced |
| 01:47.42 | captain_proton | gotta work out KeyMap things |
| 01:50.03 | captain_proton | hmm, SDL_RESIZABLE :) |
| 02:40.40 | captain_proton | hmm what are the #define's for each platform? |
| 02:42.51 | captain_proton | M_A_C: what #define's do we use for each platform? |
| 03:23.46 | MrApathyCream | _WIN32 |
| 04:14.17 | prodan | ello |
| 04:28.58 | [dmp] | hi |
| 04:31.01 | [dmp] | ibot ducati |
| 04:31.01 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 04:31.04 | bzbot | trubi (R): -2 (22-24). egg (G): -4 (12-16). brat (G): -2 (18-20). prodan (penguins) (R): 9 (30-21). Riggs (G): -20 (12-32). Roadkill (R): 7 (12-5). |
| 05:15.34 | Slaiter | hi |
| 05:15.41 | [dmp] | hi |
| 05:16.07 | [dmp] | ibot ducati |
| 05:16.07 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 05:16.08 | bzbot | rooter (G): 3 (15-12). 0123 (R): 0 (0-0). The Meat (R): -1 (9-10). Riggs (R): -23 (25-48). egg (G): -1 (12-13). calico (G): 7 (92-85). |
| 05:17.42 | Slaiter | Hi where must i go when i have troubles whit bzflag? |
| 05:18.42 | Slaiter | Oke I will tell my problems here |
| 05:18.49 | Chestal | sevreral possible places |
| 05:18.50 | Slaiter | if I may ;) |
| 05:19.04 | Chestal | this is one of them, but notmany people around this time of day |
| 05:19.16 | Slaiter | np |
| 05:19.17 | Chestal | other places: bzflag forums / boards / bug trackers on sourceforge |
| 05:19.25 | Chestal | board on bzflag.sytes.net |
| 05:19.29 | Slaiter | mayby you can help |
| 05:20.02 | Chestal | I'm a bit busy, but feel free to describe your problem |
| 05:20.14 | Slaiter | when i play bzflag everything goes well but when i turn it look like i play whit 2 fps |
| 05:20.43 | Slaiter | tis is my system |
| 05:20.51 | Chestal | hmm, what fps does it display (press t) |
| 05:20.52 | Slaiter | os[Linux 2.4.19-gentoo-r9 - ] up[ 2 hours, 55 minutes] cpu[AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, 1654.192 MHz (3303.01 bogomips)] mem[ 494.09/502.21 MB] video[nVidia Corporation NV15 DDR (GeForce2 GTS) (rev 164). at 1152x864 (24 bits)] |
| 05:21.13 | Slaiter | give me a sec |
| 05:21.21 | Chestal | what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say? |
| 05:21.48 | Slaiter | mh starting bzflag and do an info ;) |
| 05:21.52 | Chestal | your system sure is fast enough to give you very nice framerates, so it obviously is a setupproblem |
| 05:22.40 | Slaiter | do you want the fps first or the info? |
| 05:23.31 | Chestal | whatever you prefer :-) |
| 05:23.39 | Slaiter | info i get is ¨Direct rendering: YES |
| 05:23.48 | Chestal | ok, that's good |
| 05:24.18 | Slaiter | Connecting to server now |
| 05:25.06 | Slaiter | mhh t does not give anything |
| 05:25.23 | Chestal | go to ducati.bzflag.org 5155, I will join, too |
| 05:26.26 | Slaiter | no 5155 at my list only 5156 |
| 05:26.55 | Chestal | hmm, strange, just hcnage the port number manually then |
| 05:27.23 | Chestal | actualy, it is in the list, it's the one without a port showing, 5155 is the default port |
| 05:27.59 | Slaiter | oke |
| 05:28.06 | Slaiter | my name is commander rabb |
| 05:28.17 | Chestal | we are all alone there anyway :-) |
| 05:28.48 | Slaiter | oke connecting now |
| 05:28.59 | Chestal | ok |
| 05:30.22 | Slaiter | mhh frose ;( |
| 05:30.45 | Chestal | hmm |
| 05:30.54 | Chestal | it should work |
| 05:31.04 | Slaiter | loadig fixmbr and mnothing anymore |
| 05:31.37 | Chestal | hmm,. ehm, butit worked before? you didn't change anything? |
| 05:31.37 | Slaiter | i try a other pc |
| 05:31.44 | Slaiter | no nothing |
| 05:32.32 | Slaiter | yeah i have installed new drivers for my geforce |
| 05:33.37 | Slaiter | oke i am in |
| 05:33.58 | Slaiter | he |
| 05:33.59 | Chestal | but not on ducati? |
| 05:34.08 | Slaiter | connection failed |
| 05:34.22 | Slaiter | looking up hostname: timeout |
| 05:34.23 | Slaiter | ?? |
| 05:34.34 | Slaiter | now i am |
| 05:34.35 | Chestal | name server sometimes is slow |
| 08:16.52 | sussudio | ~prozac |
| 08:16.52 | | Prozac is prodan |
| 08:17.39 | strayer | hiho... |
| 08:40.27 | Cell | hi |
| 08:41.26 | Cell | i would need to execute the following command from unix shell frequently, i dont want them to type so how do i make a *.bat for unix shell? |
| 08:41.37 | Cell | rm *.class |
| 08:41.37 | bzdouggggg | .sh |
| 08:41.45 | Cell | k |
| 08:41.52 | bzdouggggg | put your command in a file and name is .sh I bet |
| 08:42.01 | Cell | k i try |
| 08:42.02 | bzdouggggg | the /.blsh.sh |
| 08:42.04 | bzdouggggg | or |
| 08:42.07 | Chestal | extension does not matter |
| 08:42.08 | bzdouggggg | sh blah.sh |
| 08:42.12 | Chestal | but you need to chmod +x it |
| 08:42.14 | bzdouggggg | I dont know really |
| 08:42.18 | bzdouggggg | yea |
| 08:42.21 | Cell | i try |
| 08:42.22 | Chestal | and first line shoudl read "#!/bin/sh" for example |
| 08:42.35 | bzdouggggg | yea |
| 08:42.39 | Cell | what's that? |
| 08:42.53 | Chestal | if you only need oen comamnd, you coudl also use an alias |
| 08:44.20 | Cell | rm *.class |
| 08:44.21 | Cell | rm *.java |
| 08:44.21 | Cell | java -jar emugen.jar -fo -f formular.emu |
| 08:44.21 | Cell | javac -classpath .:emu_runtime.jar AnnerkennungsantragPanel.java |
| 08:44.22 | bzdouggggg | ~beans |
| 08:44.22 | | bzdouggggg: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 08:44.45 | Cell | thats what i need can i make parameter input %1 like in *.bat |
| 08:44.48 | Cell | ? |
| 08:45.03 | Chestal | parameters are $1, $2, ... |
| 08:45.07 | Cell | k |
| 08:45.09 | Chestal | or $* / $@ for all of them |
| 08:45.22 | Cell | k |
| 08:45.26 | Cell | thanks |
| 08:55.16 | Cell | Chestal: ist that correct, cause it does not function: |
| 08:55.18 | Cell | #!/bin/sh |
| 08:55.18 | Cell | rm *.class |
| 08:55.18 | Cell | rm *.java |
| 08:55.18 | Cell | java -jar emugen.jar -fo -f formular.emu |
| 08:55.18 | Cell | javac -classpath .:emu_runtime.jar AnnerkennungsantragPanel.java |
| 08:55.37 | Chestal | yes, what error do you get? |
| 08:56.06 | Cell | : No such file or directory |
| 08:56.07 | Cell | : No such file or directory |
| 08:56.07 | Cell | Sorry, can't read from formular.emu |
| 08:56.07 | Cell | is an invalid option or argument. |
| 08:56.07 | Cell | Usage: javac <options> <source files> |
| 08:56.34 | Chestal | well, then your javac line is not correct, I don't know that syntax |
| 08:56.41 | Chestal | shouldn't work in interactive mode either then |
| 08:56.51 | Cell | but it all works if i paste it lineper line |
| 08:57.44 | Cell | hm |
| 08:58.16 | Chestal | ah, didn't see the other error msgs |
| 08:58.30 | Cell | it does not remove the files |
| 08:58.37 | Chestal | the above 5 lines are in a file, you chmod +x this file and then ran it? |
| 08:58.47 | bzdouggggg | BBOYEA! |
| 08:59.18 | Cell | 744 |
| 08:59.23 | Cell | chmod |
| 08:59.51 | Cell | then i typed: sh file.sh |
| 08:59.57 | Chestal | no |
| 09:00.01 | Chestal | type ./file.sh |
| 09:00.09 | Cell | k |
| 09:00.19 | Chestal | or put it in your path and just type file.sh then |
| 09:00.46 | Cell | not found |
| 09:01.10 | Chestal | when file.sh is in your current directory, ./file.sh will work |
| 09:01.20 | Cell | try again |
| 09:01.55 | Cell | ksh: ./aufgabe.sh: not found |
| 09:02.11 | Chestal | why aufgabe.sh? |
| 09:02.30 | Cell | i called the file like that |
| 09:02.46 | Chestal | then the file obviously is not in your current directory |
| 09:02.52 | Cell | it is |
| 09:02.53 | Chestal | you are using ksh? *shudder* |
| 09:02.59 | Cell | yes |
| 09:03.13 | Chestal | try ls -l /bin/sh |
| 09:03.21 | Chestal | and ls -l aufgabe.sh |
| 09:04.04 | Cell | sunhalle1:/usr/stud/edelstei/home_sun/praktikum $ ls -l /bin/sh |
| 09:04.04 | Cell | -r-xr-xr-x 4 root root 95316 Jan 4 2002 /bin/sh |
| 09:04.04 | Cell | sunhalle1:/usr/stud/edelstei/home_sun/praktikum $ ls -l aufgabe.sh |
| 09:04.04 | Cell | -rwxr--r-- 1 edelstei tumuser 142 Nov 6 2002 aufgabe.sh |
| 09:04.34 | Chestal | hmm, and 'head -1 aufgabe.sh' |
| 09:05.09 | Cell | sunhalle1:/usr/stud/edelstei/home_sun/praktikum $ head -1 aufgabe.sh |
| 09:05.09 | Cell | #!/bin/sh |
| 09:05.48 | Cell | but maybe i try 'sh aufgabe.sh' again |
| 09:06.10 | Cell | does not work |
| 09:06.13 | Cell | shit |
| 09:09.34 | Cell | shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit |
| 09:14.18 | Cell | oh i have an idea |
| 09:19.27 | Cell | oh it works now :) |
| 09:20.10 | Cell | cd /usr/stud/edelstei/home_sun/praktikum |
| 09:20.23 | Cell | i made this the first line of the fiel |
| 09:20.27 | Cell | file |
| 09:21.03 | Cell | okeydokey |
| 09:21.26 | Cell | now i can concentrate on the real tasks |
| 09:33.12 | bzdouggggg | Better than rubber vomit. More fun than a whoppee cushion. This radio–controlled rat moves forward, turns left, spins around, stares at you with red, glowing eyes. |
| 09:39.25 | bzdouggggg | batteries not included |
| 09:42.34 | bzdouggggg | hrm |
| 09:42.42 | bzdouggggg | ah |
| 10:07.36 | bzdouggggg | ok... how would I caclutate all the resolutions with the proper VGA scale: like 800x600 |
| 10:07.54 | bzdouggggg | but I want to scale it without stretching it |
| 10:08.24 | bzdouggggg | do I just multiply those two numbers by x? |
| 10:14.54 | bzdouggggg | ahh |
| 10:14.58 | bzdouggggg | 200x0 |
| 10:15.02 | bzdouggggg | duh |
| 10:25.34 | sussudio | hmm shockwave colors dont change when you have CB |
| 10:37.24 | sussudio | you know what's funny? killing people with 1 shot on the 100 shot noodleroni server |
| 10:38.04 | bzdouggggg | funy |
| 10:38.08 | bzdouggggg | fuuunyy |
| 10:38.11 | bzdouggggg | funny |
| 10:38.15 | bzdouggggg | yea, sure |
| 10:38.20 | sussudio | yes... the dumbasses keep shooting and dont see whats right in front of them |
| 10:39.26 | bzdouggggg | thats easy |
| 10:39.28 | bzdouggggg | I did that |
| 10:39.35 | bzdouggggg | but it dosnt kill anyone |
| 10:39.38 | bzdouggggg | its just pretty |
| 10:39.54 | sussudio | so is laser on machinegun repeat |
| 10:40.01 | bzdouggggg | heh |
| 10:41.17 | bzdouggggg | hmm |
| 10:41.24 | bzdouggggg | what I want is a laser SW |
| 10:41.51 | bzdouggggg | so you shoot and short range lasers grope for the nearest tanks |
| 10:41.59 | bzdouggggg | same range as SW |
| 10:42.01 | bzdouggggg | but prettyer |
| 10:42.19 | bzdouggggg | and can be over driven by a large amount of tanks |
| 10:42.21 | bzdouggggg | :) |
| 10:42.24 | bzdouggggg | what do you think? |
| 10:42.35 | bzdouggggg | it would be like active defences |
| 10:43.11 | sussudio | neh. i'd like to see an invulnerable flag....... |
| 10:43.12 | sussudio | but you cant shoot |
| 10:43.16 | sussudio | just steamroller or something |
| 10:43.22 | sussudio | to take out GM campers |
| 10:43.27 | bzdouggggg | thats like zoned flag |
| 10:43.34 | sussudio | no |
| 10:43.39 | sussudio | you cant go up zoned |
| 10:43.45 | bzdouggggg | right |
| 10:43.46 | bzdouggggg | hmm |
| 10:44.06 | bzdouggggg | but I still would like to see Laser cloud flag |
| 10:44.19 | sussudio | i think someone already suggested it and got denied |
| 10:44.25 | bzdouggggg | hmm |
| 10:44.56 | bzdouggggg | hmm |
| 10:44.58 | bzdouggggg | Launches a cow along a parabolic trajectory. |
| 10:45.02 | bzdouggggg | your idea? |
| 10:45.02 | bzdouggggg | :) |
| 10:45.42 | sussudio | nope |
| 10:45.51 | bzdouggggg | ah |
| 10:45.51 | sussudio | how bout the gerbil flag |
| 10:45.56 | bzdouggggg | lol |
| 10:45.58 | sussudio | it shrinks to supertiny......... |
| 10:46.05 | sussudio | and jumps INSIDE another tank |
| 10:46.10 | bzdouggggg | hoho |
| 10:46.38 | bzdouggggg | I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you shoot bounces off me and kills you! Regular shots ricochet off your tank back in the direction they came, if shooter is still there or close then he gets hit by his own shot. GMs explode without killing or cause rubber damage (flag drop). Super bullet and shock wave kill. Steam roller bounces off you, maybe causing his death or both your flags to drop. |
| 10:47.13 | bzdouggggg | ooh, even have the laser cloud flag down incoming GM and bullets |
| 10:47.33 | sussudio | i've always said SW should kill incoming missiles. |
| 10:47.46 | bzdouggggg | yes |
| 10:47.51 | bzdouggggg | it should |
| 10:47.53 | sussudio | it's probably 1 line of code |
| 10:47.59 | bzdouggggg | heh |
| 10:48.02 | bzdouggggg | you make a patch |
| 10:48.07 | sussudio | while SW_active disable goodhit if flag GM |
| 10:48.10 | sussudio | something like that |
| 10:48.15 | bzdouggggg | hmm |
| 10:48.48 | sussudio | but only when the GM is inside the SW range |
| 10:48.51 | bzdouggggg | Like shockwave, but only, say, 30 degrees high and wide, but has longer range. |
| 10:48.57 | bzdouggggg | wavefront sounds cool |
| 10:49.19 | sussudio | how about 'bad mexican food' flag |
| 10:49.25 | bzdouggggg | heh |
| 10:49.26 | sussudio | you go PFFFFFFFFRT |
| 10:49.30 | sussudio | and leave little puddles |
| 10:49.37 | sussudio | which tanks skid on |
| 10:49.45 | bzdouggggg | Shock Ring: Shockwave in a horizontal ring pattern |
| 10:49.49 | bzdouggggg | whats that do? |
| 10:49.51 | sussudio | it should amuse bamf's 3 year old to no end |
| 10:49.51 | bzdouggggg | lol |
| 10:49.55 | bzdouggggg | haha |
| 10:50.01 | bzdouggggg | and you too |
| 10:50.04 | sussudio | uh huh |
| 10:50.43 | bzdouggggg | http://bzflag.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Llama |
| 10:51.57 | bzdouggggg | hmm |
| 10:51.58 | bzdouggggg | Clicking fires a laser-like beam that travels at the same speed as bullets, and does the same thing to enemy tanks if they are hit. If the beam hits a pyramid or a box, however, the tank gets pulled rapidly to the object that was hit (like a grappling hook). |
| 10:53.09 | bzdouggggg | aha |
| 10:53.10 | bzdouggggg | A defense only flag. Fire and you envelope yourself with a brief magnetic shield that looks like or similar to shock wave, only this shield acts like a wall stopping or causing shots to rico as appropriate. Put up your shield soon enough and you're safe, but wait too long and a shot's ricocheting around inside with you. Tanks can drive thru the shield, both to fire at you or to be protected by you as you approach a target (camper). To fire y |
| 10:53.33 | bzdouggggg | hmm |
| 10:53.38 | bzdouggggg | no |
| 11:02.57 | Terminator | hi guys |
| 11:03.04 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 11:03.04 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:03.06 | bzbot | Riggs (R): 33 (122-89). Yugi (G): -16 (12-28). strayer (R): 52 (107-55). some tank (G): 0 (0-0). Green Machine (G): -61 (55-116). Fluffy (G): 20 (51-31). skeebuzz (R): 0 (22-22). Vince (R): -20 (15-35). |
| 11:06.53 | bzdouggggg | ok doke, check out the new flag |
| 11:07.00 | bzdouggggg | http://bzflag.org/wiki/FlagList |
| 11:07.44 | bzdouggggg | ~help |
| 11:08.00 | Terminator | ok i check it out |
| 11:12.08 | [TeA] | ibot ducati |
| 11:12.08 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:12.09 | bzbot | red (R): 2 (2-0). Yugi (G): -28 (16-44). strayer (R): 65 (132-67). some tank (G): -13 (8-21). Fluffy (G): -3 (8-11). Strange (G): -4 (1-5). plani (R): 15 (18-3). Vince (R): -21 (25-46). |
| 11:12.15 | [TeA] | aaaaaaaah |
| 11:31.44 | Chestal | hi fiber |
| 11:34.04 | Cell | puuuuh, im done with my homework, time to eat smthg |
| 11:34.39 | Cell | i would like to eat a chicken |
| 11:34.46 | bzdougg_ | eat a gerbil |
| 11:34.49 | bzdougg_ | or sussudio |
| 11:34.56 | Cell | whats that |
| 11:35.11 | Cell | no i will eat smth that tastes |
| 11:35.11 | bzdougg_ | tastes like chicken |
| 11:35.31 | bzdougg_ | lol |
| 11:35.33 | Cell | computer stress |
| 11:35.41 | Cell | makes hungry |
| 11:36.21 | bzdougg_ | see my new flag on the Wiki? |
| 11:38.30 | bzdougg_ | yay |
| 11:41.41 | bzdougg_ | wow this terminal services can stream AVIs |
| 11:51.03 | Terminator | hi again |
| 11:51.07 | strayer | hi Terminator |
| 11:51.07 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 11:51.07 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:51.09 | bzbot | Satan's Evil Twin (R): 3 (15-12). Stefan (R): -6 (8-14). Flyer (G): -16 (10-26). Porkins (G): -10 (18-28). Mayhem (G): -8 (9-17). lool (G): -2 (5-7). cheesus (R): 5 (10-5). |
| 11:51.12 | Terminator | hi strayer |
| 11:55.43 | [TeA] | bla |
| 11:55.48 | [TeA] | ibot ducati |
| 11:55.48 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:55.49 | bzbot | Satan's Evil Twin (R): 13 (33-20). Stefan (R): -6 (17-23). Flyer (G): -23 (15-38). Porkins (G): -13 (28-41). Mayhem (G): -10 (16-26). lool (G): 0 (1-1). cheesus (R): 14 (27-13). |
| 11:56.29 | Terminator | oops |
| 11:56.37 | Terminator | my comp crashed |
| 11:56.40 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 11:56.40 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:56.41 | bzbot | Stefan (R): -7 (19-26). Flyer (G): -21 (17-38). Porkins (G): -14 (30-44). Mayhem (G): -8 (18-26). lool (G): -2 (1-3). cheesus (R): 15 (30-15). |
| 11:58.25 | strayer | ibot ducati |
| 11:58.25 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:58.26 | bzbot | Mayhem (R): 0 (0-0). Stefan (R): -7 (26-33). Flyer (G): -24 (19-43). Porkins (G): -15 (32-47). lool (G): -4 (2-6). cheesus (R): 14 (34-20). |
| 11:59.49 | [TeA] | haha |
| 11:59.51 | [TeA] | strayer lein ? |
| 11:59.59 | [TeA] | dachtest ich ging in ducati oder |
| 12:00.14 | strayer | ja...hätt ich dir zugetraut |
| 12:01.07 | [TeA] | lol |
| 12:01.11 | [TeA] | du fisch :o) |
| 12:01.26 | strayer | :p |
| 12:01.37 | [TeA] | du grießnockal |
| 12:02.10 | strayer | ...du bayer....(das war jetzt ein Hieb...hehe) |
| 12:02.52 | [TeA] | hehe ich bin engländer |
| 12:03.06 | [TeA] | i kann aber trotzdem baiyrisch ;) |
| 12:03.10 | [TeA] | -i |
| 12:04.40 | strayer | haha...ich bin Erzgebirgler und kann bayrisch, hochdeutsch und sächsisch ;p |
| 12:08.00 | [TeA] | bääääääh |
| 12:08.07 | [TeA] | sächsisch ..... |
| 12:08.09 | [TeA] | ufffffff |
| 12:08.20 | [TeA] | ich war mit nem freund in berlin 4 tage |
| 12:08.29 | strayer | das ist aber kein Sächsich |
| 12:08.55 | bzdougg_ | ~x de en ich war mit nem freund in berlin 4 tage |
| 12:08.57 | strayer | die Berliner haben sowieso nen Klps mit ihrem ICKE...hehe |
| 12:09.16 | bzdougg_ | thought so |
| 12:09.28 | strayer | ...of course...lol |
| 12:11.14 | fiberchunks | howdy...is there any way to compile only bzfs, without the usual make pristine, make linux, make routine? |
| 12:11.56 | bzdougg_ | dunno |
| 12:11.59 | bzdougg_ | I dont think so... |
| 12:12.06 | bzdougg_ | unless make bzfs? |
| 12:13.52 | fiberchunks | well, I cd into bzfs directory, issue make, and get "no rule to make target ../../libNet.a, needed by ../../bzfs.cxx, stop' what libs am I missing? |
| 12:14.25 | fiberchunks | make bzfs from main directory would be wonderful |
| 12:14.36 | fiberchunks | same with make bzfls, bzflag, etc |
| 12:14.46 | bzdougg_ | beats the fire out of me |
| 12:15.38 | [TeA] | lalalallalalala...... |
| 12:15.42 | [TeA] | ibot: you suck |
| 12:15.42 | | :(|<reply>:(|<reply>:(|<reply>i'm just here to thwart ibot's puny efforts|<reply>hey, i'm on lunchbreak, screw off |
| 12:16.36 | bzdougg_ | lemme fix that |
| 12:17.17 | [TeA] | hehe |
| 12:17.32 | [TeA] | ibot: strayer sucks ey? |
| 12:17.33 | | no idea, [TeA] |
| 12:17.43 | [TeA] | Ibot: you have an idea |
| 12:17.43 | | [TeA]: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 12:17.44 | bzdougg_ | ~lart [TeA] |
| 12:17.52 | [TeA] | bäääääh |
| 12:18.02 | strayer | ibot: kick [dmp] |
| 12:18.02 | | strayer: are you smoking crack? |
| 12:18.10 | strayer | oups...sry |
| 12:18.22 | strayer | wrong one..hehe |
| 12:18.24 | [TeA] | haha |
| 12:18.34 | [TeA] | ibot: strayer sucks |
| 12:18.34 | | [TeA]: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 12:18.47 | [TeA] | ibot: kick strayer |
| 12:18.47 | | [TeA]: are you smoking crack? |
| 12:19.22 | strayer | ibot [TeA] |
| 12:19.22 | | strayer: wish i knew |
| 12:19.37 | strayer | oh...unknown...hehe |
| 12:20.00 | [TeA] | ibot TeA |
| 12:20.00 | | [TeA]: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 12:20.10 | [TeA] | ibot teatree |
| 12:20.10 | | [TeA]: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 12:20.15 | [TeA] | bäääääh |
| 12:20.30 | strayer | hahaha |
| 12:20.42 | strayer | ;p |
| 12:21.46 | fiberchunks | bzdougg: info: if you make the whole thing, and then change the bzfs.cxx file, issue make from the bzfs directory -- it will compile it and put the new in ../../bin |
| 12:21.49 | fiberchunks | just for info |
| 12:21.57 | [TeA] | bin essen |
| 12:23.03 | fiberchunks | ibot turkey.moongroup.com |
| 12:23.03 | | fiberchunks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 12:23.11 | fiberchunks | how does one do that |
| 12:23.21 | doug_school | ok' |
| 12:23.56 | fiberchunks | ibot turkey |
| 12:23.56 | | bzfquery turkey.moongroup.com 7500 |
| 12:23.57 | bzbot | Rogue: 9 players, score: 0 | Green: 3 players, score: -68 | Purple: 1 players, score: -177 | |
| 12:24.36 | fiberchunks | how do you do a long query? |
| 12:25.11 | doug_school | bzfquerylong |
| 12:25.20 | fiberchunks | bzfquerylong turkey |
| 12:25.24 | doug_school | or ask ibot |
| 12:25.43 | doug_school | ~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 12:25.43 | fiberchunks | just did, respond with bzfquery instead of bzfquerylong to bzbot |
| 12:25.51 | doug_school | oh |
| 12:26.02 | doug_school | yea |
| 12:26.04 | fiberchunks | ~bzfquerylong turkey.moongroup.com:7500 |
| 12:26.04 | | fiberchunks: I give up, what is it? |
| 12:26.11 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 12:26.39 | sussudio | bah just run /usr/games/bzfquery.pl |
| 12:27.48 | fiberchunks | ah, thanks |
| 12:33.20 | Cell | hi |
| 12:34.15 | Cell | what does x mean on directories, does it mean allow deny browse? |
| 12:36.29 | sussudio | it means the directory contains pr0n |
| 12:38.49 | Cell | what? |
| 12:44.20 | bzdougg | boo |
| 12:44.23 | doug_school | boo |
| 12:44.27 | bzdougg | boo |
| 12:44.31 | doug_school | boo |
| 12:44.43 | bzdougg | I am the real one |
| 12:44.46 | doug_school | no I am |
| 12:46.04 | Cell | u are both the real ones but u stand not a chance against me, so stand back or i crush u |
| 12:51.19 | Cell | psycho crusheeeer |
| 12:51.39 | Cell | sonic boom |
| 12:51.48 | [TeA] | baaaaaaaaah |
| 12:51.56 | Cell | hi |
| 12:52.18 | Cell | wie ist das wetter in münchen? ;) |
| 12:52.40 | sussudio | es regnet scheisse und sauerkraut |
| 12:52.54 | Cell | has 60 gestern spielen sehen? |
| 12:53.20 | Cell | torwart hat 11 meter verwandelt :) |
| 12:53.20 | sussudio | das gras ist grun |
| 12:53.37 | sussudio | ist das gras blau? |
| 12:53.52 | Cell | nein es ist lila |
| 12:54.03 | Cell | im u-v licht |
| 12:54.05 | sussudio | der hund ist blau |
| 12:55.01 | [TeA] | baaaaaah |
| 12:55.15 | [TeA] | sussudio aus münchen ????? |
| 12:55.34 | sussudio | nein ich bin kein blaue hund |
| 12:56.58 | Cell | aus hamburg? |
| 12:57.30 | Cell | gott ich liebe diese kälte |
| 12:58.03 | [TeA] | lol |
| 12:58.08 | [TeA] | ibot ducati |
| 12:58.08 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:58.10 | bzbot | rookie (R): 8 (16-8). Vince (R): -10 (4-14). Pikachu (R): -3 (12-15). StuKa (G): 1 (6-5). ashes (R): -4 (2-6). [dmp] (G): 14 (65-51). Patt O. WC (G): -1 (3-4). sOKOlik (G): -13 (31-44). |
| 12:58.18 | sussudio | der hund ist im hamburg |
| 12:58.24 | [TeA] | ach |
| 12:58.32 | sussudio | would you like fries with that? |
| 12:58.38 | [TeA] | hamburg gibs doch noch soclhe straf dinger da = |
| 13:02.13 | [TeA] | lalalalllalalallalalalalalalal.-.....a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a..a.aa..l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l.l..a.a..a..aa..a.a.a...... |
| 13:03.31 | Cell | Ja vadammt no moil was gehtn hia ab? Sauba sag' i. |
| 13:04.06 | Cell | Komm mir bloss net mit diesa Masch' du Dreckskoil. Prost! |
| 13:04.37 | [TeA] | ach , kimm doch ned so her du sau preis! |
| 13:05.51 | Cell | Kanst du net moil a' geschoat' Standpauk' hoiltn |
| 13:05.55 | strayer | wenner noch a mol iber de Preißen herzieht, denn kricht der aber sowas von offn Nüschl... |
| 13:06.56 | Cell | Preissen? I glaub' dir habn sie oans aufn Kopf gehauen. |
| 13:07.39 | strayer | och...du olle Dschuck |
| 13:08.02 | Cell | Also i muß scho sage, mid räxde Dinge gehd es hir garandierd nichd z. |
| 13:08.36 | [TeA] | strayer , der alt saftsack ist a ordendlich preis , da aus dem osten die wurschtsemme.... |
| 13:08.44 | [TeA] | ordentlicher |
| 13:08.55 | strayer | :p |
| 13:10.46 | strayer | da krxel ich off de Hitsch un geifer dir gärlings iber de Glatz... |
| 13:10.56 | strayer | kraxel... |
| 13:12.55 | Cell | Also ihr beid diggd joo nichd mehr ganz richdich. Abr das mäxd nichds.Die Weld had scho so manches Ding, bssr gesagd Unding, gesehe |
| 13:14.27 | [TeA] | baaaaaah |
| 13:14.39 | strayer | dis sogt dor Richtge...(boah ist Bayrisch seltsam) |
| 13:14.49 | [TeA] | :PPP |
| 13:14.54 | [TeA] | bayrisch rulez |
| 13:14.56 | [TeA] | ;) |
| 13:16.01 | strayer | bye... |
| 13:18.23 | Fluffy_bz | hi there |
| 13:24.26 | Cell | hi i want to learn unix shell and hopefully be as good as bzflag |
| 13:25.54 | sussudio | did you buy the special shell pants? |
| 13:26.47 | Cell | not yet,but i smoke lot of grass |
| 13:26.59 | Cell | so im ready |
| 13:28.32 | sussudio | youre not supposed to smoke the grass |
| 13:28.36 | sussudio | eat it |
| 13:29.02 | Cell | hm why? its not good |
| 13:29.48 | sussudio | it's good. just ask the cows |
| 13:31.39 | Cell | first i type:rm -r -f |
| 13:32.10 | Cell | lts see what it does |
| 14:16.03 | m0nkeyb0y | hi |
| 14:28.33 | [TeA] | ibot ducati |
| 14:28.33 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:28.34 | bzbot | M1 (R): 14 (64-50). plani (R): -48 (131-179). bzlynx (G): 0 (13-13). root (R): 2 (9-7). 2 Bad (G): -9 (24-33). Hokuten (R): -4 (0-4). CapN (G): 18 (74-56). sn0w_m0nkey (G): -1 (27-28). |
| 14:29.53 | [TeA] | hu |
| 14:53.31 | BZFlag | ibot bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:53.39 | BZFlag | ibot bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 14:55.57 | bzdougg | hey BZFlag! |
| 14:56.14 | bzdougg | see my new flag on the Wiki? |
| 14:56.23 | BZFlag | nope. |
| 15:04.36 | bzdougg | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 15:04.40 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 15:17.56 | bzdougg | check out the Laser Cloud flag: http://bzflag.com/wiki/FlagList |
| 15:25.15 | Patlabor221 | jesus |
| 15:25.21 | bzdougg | :) |
| 15:25.28 | Patlabor221 | that's way to complex |
| 15:25.34 | Patlabor221 | and would be a bitch to ballance |
| 15:25.34 | bzdougg | why? |
| 15:25.43 | bzdougg | ballance? |
| 15:25.46 | Patlabor221 | it's the only one that has optional fire |
| 15:25.53 | Patlabor221 | you would team kill way to easy |
| 15:26.03 | bzdougg | no worse than shockwave |
| 15:26.07 | Patlabor221 | it has amining |
| 15:26.10 | Patlabor221 | aiming |
| 15:26.11 | bzdougg | same range and all |
| 15:26.28 | bzdougg | its just a pretty shockwave replacment |
| 15:26.46 | bzdougg | and the ability to overrun the lasers with too many bullets |
| 15:26.46 | Patlabor221 | whats wronw wiht shock wave? |
| 15:26.58 | bzdougg | nothin |
| 15:27.06 | bzdougg | but I was thinkin it would be cool |
| 15:27.37 | BZFlag | been watching the last starfighter lately? |
| 15:27.46 | Patlabor221 | death blosim :) |
| 15:27.46 | bzdougg | starfighter? |
| 15:27.52 | bzdougg | nope... |
| 15:27.54 | Patlabor221 | hello grig. |
| 15:28.00 | bzdougg | hmm, no |
| 15:28.15 | Patlabor221 | doug has not been chosen to defend the fronter agains the kodan armada. |
| 15:28.21 | bzdougg | Honor of the queen |
| 15:28.24 | bzdougg | book |
| 15:31.07 | Patlabor221 | it was a movie doug |
| 15:31.14 | bzdougg | it was? |
| 15:31.31 | Patlabor221 | the last startfighter? |
| 15:31.46 | Patlabor221 | death blosim was a missle based atack system |
| 15:32.03 | Patlabor221 | I remember when I was "wowed" by thos GFX |
| 15:32.13 | bzdougg | http://www.baen.com/library/0671578642/0671578642__34.htm |
| 15:33.00 | Patlabor221 | no that does not look like the same thing |
| 15:33.09 | bzdougg | dint think so |
| 15:33.21 | bzdougg | hmm |
| 15:33.22 | bzdougg | dinner |
| 15:33.36 | bzdougg | BZFlag: soo what do you think of the the laser cloud? |
| 15:33.45 | bzdougg | maybe have it a drop in replacement for SW |
| 15:34.34 | Patlabor221 | it overrides the right click, how would that work? |
| 15:49.58 | bzdougg | take off the rightclick thingy |
| 15:56.28 | Patlabor221 | the identify featre? |
| 15:56.32 | Patlabor221 | and how does it "aim"? |
| 15:56.46 | bzdougg | computer |
| 15:57.19 | Patlabor221 | that's more then a drop in |
| 15:57.32 | Patlabor221 | and how does it lead the target? |
| 15:57.32 | bzdougg | just shoot a laser at the nearest shot/tank |
| 15:57.37 | bzdougg | it doesnt |
| 15:57.39 | bzdougg | its a laser |
| 15:57.48 | Patlabor221 | it would never hit anything that moves in Z |
| 15:57.53 | Patlabor221 | like jumpers |
| 15:57.58 | bzdougg | hmm |
| 15:58.04 | bzdougg | why not? |
| 15:58.09 | Patlabor221 | tho lazers are instant |
| 15:58.10 | Patlabor221 | do it may |
| 15:58.34 | Patlabor221 | it just seems liek fluf, and not very well thought out... what does it add? |
| 15:58.38 | Patlabor221 | just flash? |
| 15:58.44 | bzdougg | yea |
| 15:58.57 | Patlabor221 | then why not just change the regular SW |
| 15:59.24 | Patlabor221 | I know you are just excited about P2501's lighting thing, and want to see it in BZ |
| 15:59.26 | bzdougg | thats what I was thinkin |
| 15:59.34 | bzdougg | a yup |
| 15:59.37 | Patlabor221 | then why change the rules of how it works |
| 15:59.48 | Patlabor221 | it's relay just a graphic thing |
| 16:00.18 | bzdougg | yup, it would be slick to see lasers groping at bullets only to miss one and blow up |
| 16:02.48 | Patlabor221 | lots of things would be slick to see |
| 16:03.30 | bzdougg | also I like the MagShield(MS) |
| 16:03.30 | Patlabor221 | but they don't allways have a place in the same game |
| 16:03.30 | Patlabor221 | that does what? |
| 16:03.30 | bzdougg | A defense only flag. Fire and you envelope yourself with a brief magnetic shield that looks like or similar to shock wave, only this shield acts like a wall stopping or causing shots to rico as appropriate. Put up your shield soon enough and you're safe, but wait too long and a shot's ricocheting around inside with you. Tanks can drive thru the shield, both to fire at you or to be protected by you as you approach a target (camper). To fire your |
| 16:05.42 | Patlabor221 | what does that solve? |
| 16:06.06 | Patlabor221 | cap: how thin? |
| 16:06.39 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: no more than an inch |
| 16:06.52 | Patlabor221 | how fast? |
| 16:07.02 | captain_proton | 400mhz would be more than enough |
| 16:07.39 | Patlabor221 | faster then what we have laying around then |
| 16:08.51 | captain_proton | what do you have laying around? |
| 16:09.02 | Patlabor221 | 133s |
| 16:09.07 | Patlabor221 | but they may be too thick |
| 16:09.13 | captain_proton | hmm, what size screens? |
| 16:09.36 | Patlabor221 | like 12 |
| 16:09.44 | Patlabor221 | I don't know if they work tho |
| 16:09.57 | Patlabor221 | hell my laptop is only a 333 celly |
| 16:10.34 | Patlabor221 | tho it does have a nice 15.1" screen |
| 16:11.25 | Patlabor221 | what is your plan? |
| 16:12.03 | captain_proton | i want to build a computerized music stand |
| 16:12.18 | captain_proton | because turning pages in some orchestral music is a REAL pain |
| 16:12.26 | captain_proton | so i'm thinking box on the stand with a foot pedal |
| 16:12.42 | sussudio | and you need 400mhz for that? |
| 16:12.42 | Patlabor221 | I have an old 12" flat pannel in no case and a trident PCI card that runs it |
| 16:12.59 | Patlabor221 | got a couple I think |
| 16:13.05 | captain_proton | sussudio: well there's a lot more i want to do with it...handwriting recognition, etc |
| 16:13.20 | Patlabor221 | ou need a touch pad then |
| 16:13.23 | sussudio | wouldnt a pda be handier |
| 16:13.33 | Patlabor221 | screen proalby too samll |
| 16:13.37 | captain_proton | WAY too small |
| 16:13.55 | captain_proton | anything below about a standard letter sheet is pretty much unreadable |
| 16:14.05 | sussudio | ibook? |
| 16:14.15 | Patlabor221 | the toilet seat mac? |
| 16:14.15 | captain_proton | ibook = expensive |
| 16:14.39 | sussudio | hm i think they gave them away at some school in vermont or something |
| 16:14.45 | sussudio | taking candy from babies |
| 16:15.51 | Patlabor221 | I'd check the bay of e for old stuff |
| 16:16.32 | captain_proton | thats what i'm doing |
| 16:17.26 | sussudio | $600 on ebay |
| 16:17.30 | sussudio | for ibooks |
| 16:18.01 | captain_proton | thats a lot of money for something i'm going to rip apart |
| 16:18.46 | sussudio | there was a seperate lcd display for 50 |
| 16:19.17 | Patlabor221 | put a CRT in int facing up, and frosted glass |
| 16:19.27 | Patlabor221 | then you can have a Holo stand. |
| 16:19.49 | Patlabor221 | like back prjection |
| 16:20.17 | captain_proton | i need something portable |
| 16:20.32 | Patlabor221 | put wheeles on it :) |
| 16:20.36 | Patlabor221 | and a motor |
| 16:20.38 | captain_proton | heh |
| 16:20.42 | Patlabor221 | use it as transportation. |
| 16:20.52 | Patlabor221 | like one of those segway things |
| 16:22.37 | Patlabor221 | toobad you can't just make glasses that project the music into your eye |
| 16:25.24 | sussudio | you could pay doug a dollar an hour to turn your pages |
| 16:48.24 | fiberchunks | anyone know what package provides vorbisfile and vorbis for the 1.8 branch? |
| 16:48.59 | sussudio | 1.8 is dead |
| 16:50.27 | fiberchunks | yes, I know that...I still want to play with it. |
| 16:53.00 | sussudio | apt-get install libvorbis* |
| 16:53.04 | sussudio | or something |
| 16:54.35 | fiberchunks | thanks |
| 17:06.36 | Patlabor221 | mmmm Winona Rider. |
| 17:11.48 | sussudio | lurgyman has forgotten lesson #1 in how to hide lamas |
| 17:13.04 | jzaun | sussudio, bzdougg: check out stats.zbfalg.org, you may like the new news item |
| 17:13.24 | sussudio | zbfalg? cool |
| 17:13.39 | Patlabor221 | new game |
| 17:13.43 | Patlabor221 | all in the z buffer |
| 17:13.57 | jzaun | sussudio: sorry, bzflag |
| 17:14.23 | jzaun | sussudio: My fat fingers, while typing fast.... |
| 17:15.49 | Patlabor221 | what if noone joins? |
| 17:16.05 | hurty-flurty | noone'll be fine, so long as you aren't too hard on him |
| 17:16.12 | Patlabor221 | and you could keep incrementing the port an allow multiple games |
| 17:16.18 | jzaun | Patlabor221: It just sits |
| 17:16.28 | Patlabor221 | you should perhaps time it out after a while |
| 17:16.34 | jzaun | Patlabor221: That would require me to open them all up |
| 17:16.47 | Patlabor221 | this true |
| 17:16.51 | sussudio | hmm someone wants to imitate being spiff? that's sad |
| 17:17.47 | lurgyman | lurgyman doesn't become pretty yellow when he talks to himself |
| 17:18.05 | sussudio | doug's pants are yellow |
| 17:18.20 | lurgyman | lurgy's pants are bloo |
| 17:19.39 | sussudio | dorks |
| 17:19.54 | lurgyman | 130 not a sausage |
| 17:19.56 | sussudio | "if youre not a developer and it doesnt work, fuck you" |
| 17:20.03 | lurgyman | 13*0 not a sausage |
| 17:20.05 | sussudio | no wonder nobody is on the friggin network |
| 17:23.36 | Patlabor221 | cap: you here? how do I tell svn to add files again? |
| 17:24.13 | lurgyman | 13*0 captain_proton is in cello studio |
| 17:24.31 | lurgyman | presumably thinking about switching to trombone |
| 17:24.54 | Patlabor221 | dosn't that involve spit? |
| 17:25.02 | lurgyman | :D |
| 17:25.10 | Patlabor221 | LOTS of spit |
| 17:25.21 | lurgyman | we like to refer to it as buzzing |
| 17:25.37 | lurgyman | and -most- of the spit is supposed to stay in your mouth |
| 17:25.58 | Patlabor221 | but does it? |
| 17:25.58 | sussudio | what if you throw up while playing it |
| 17:27.22 | lurgyman | unless you have fire hydrants instead of saliva glands , the stuff that comes out of your mouth is generally almost completely air |
| 17:27.57 | lurgyman | and if you throw up while playing it... you start feeling sorry for the woodwind player in front of you |
| 17:28.06 | lurgyman | maybe |
| 17:29.23 | lurgyman | unless they're a piccolo player |
| 17:29.27 | lurgyman | in which case you just laugh |
| 17:30.11 | lurgyman | (if you aren't too sick) |
| 17:32.41 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: 'svn add' |
| 17:32.56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: 'svn help' will give the list of commands |
| 17:33.03 | Patlabor221 | yes but I am lazy |
| 17:36.59 | sussudio | it was mirrorspit |
| 17:37.05 | sussudio | according to doug you cant see mirrors |
| 17:37.08 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: how big is that trident card that drives your caseless lcd? :) |
| 17:37.21 | Patlabor221 | normal card size |
| 17:37.34 | Patlabor221 | has 2 ribbons that go to the LCS |
| 17:37.49 | Patlabor221 | I"ll go see if I can dig them up tonight |
| 17:38.08 | captain_proton | :) |
| 17:38.55 | sussudio | hmm got all your stuff in the backyard? |
| 17:39.12 | Patlabor221 | naw |
| 17:39.22 | Patlabor221 | 3000 sqr foot storage facility |
| 17:39.24 | sussudio | just buried under dozens of pizzaboxes then |
| 17:39.32 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 17:39.42 | Patlabor221 | they are back in the "bins" |
| 17:39.59 | Patlabor221 | we had a pile of "lugable" comps that craped out |
| 17:40.11 | Patlabor221 | and they replaced them with laptops |
| 17:40.18 | Patlabor221 | so I got all the cases down there |
| 17:40.21 | sussudio | i have an olivetti XT with built-in crt |
| 17:40.27 | Patlabor221 | with the cards and LCDs |
| 17:40.42 | Patlabor221 | it was just the mobos that were shot. |
| 17:41.09 | sussudio | nra meeting? |
| 17:41.21 | Patlabor221 | no, paintball day |
| 17:43.09 | Patlabor221 | the cases are funky, it was a a bab AT mobo in a portable case with a PS, and a 12" flat screen behind a detachable keyboard |
| 17:43.21 | Patlabor221 | kinda like those old "prtable" XTs |
| 17:43.23 | Patlabor221 | but smaller |
| 17:43.33 | sussudio | i had something like that |
| 17:43.36 | sussudio | worked for about 5 seconds |
| 17:43.43 | sussudio | japanese piece of crap |
| 17:43.45 | sussudio | wanted 100 volts |
| 17:43.47 | sussudio | i gave it 220 |
| 17:44.14 | Patlabor221 | well these were built here, outa our parts. we got the cases and the cards together |
| 17:44.36 | Patlabor221 | then just put normal P2 and P3 slot1 mobos in them |
| 17:44.56 | captain_proton | but i don't know if its thin enough |
| 17:45.10 | sussudio | with one of those via eden cpus? |
| 17:45.25 | sussudio | or was that micro something |
| 17:45.29 | Patlabor221 | the "C7" CPU? |
| 17:45.34 | sussudio | *shrug* |
| 17:45.37 | Patlabor221 | we have one of those Cyrex theres somewhere |
| 17:45.44 | Patlabor221 | 700 mhz |
| 17:45.45 | Patlabor221 | runs ok |
| 17:45.47 | sussudio | it was smaller than itx |
| 17:45.53 | captain_proton | sussudio: yeah an eden |
| 17:46.02 | captain_proton | fanless |
| 17:46.16 | sussudio | much like celine dion |
| 17:47.03 | captain_proton | perhaps if i did some board-surgery and removed the serial & parallel port connectors |
| 17:47.27 | sussudio | i'm not sure if it even comes with those |
| 17:47.33 | sussudio | just usb |
| 17:48.05 | captain_proton | it does, i'm looking at a picture of it right now |
| 17:48.06 | sussudio | it was on slashdot a couple of weeks ago |
| 18:09.01 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm the gl sphere map looks like ass |
| 18:09.06 | Patlabor221 | I must have screwed up someting |
| 18:09.27 | sussudio | so you didnt mean it to be an actual ass then |
| 18:09.43 | Patlabor221 | yes a figuritve ass |
| 18:10.19 | Patlabor221 | but skin defined multiple texture passes is working |
| 18:22.47 | captain_proton | no new commits to either branch of bz |
| 18:23.48 | Patlabor221 | havent' had a chance to look at it yet |
| 18:24.50 | Patlabor221 | I need to get my self familiar with the bz "way" again |
| 18:28.51 | ski | hi all |
| 18:57.40 | fiberchunks | heya snike |
| 19:18.28 | Patlabor221 | cap: you there? |
| 19:22.18 | jzaun | captain_proton: Whats the latest BZE that can be used to make maps? |
| 20:14.38 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yep |
| 20:14.41 | captain_proton | jzaun: 2.1 |
| 20:15.34 | doughecka | 'lo jzaun! |
| 20:15.51 | doughecka | questions about that server script.... |
| 20:16.03 | doughecka | I got it to nearly run on windows |
| 20:16.14 | Patlabor221 | cap: I need a PCI card that will let me control external analog devices |
| 20:17.11 | Patlabor221 | and I don't know where to look for one |
| 20:17.37 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: control in what manner? |
| 20:18.14 | Patlabor221 | like send volts too |
| 20:18.17 | Patlabor221 | simple motors |
| 20:18.54 | captain_proton | well anything with a digital to analog converter would do |
| 20:18.59 | doughecka | parallel port |
| 20:19.01 | captain_proton | if you need higher voltages i'd run it through a relay |
| 20:19.09 | Patlabor221 | PPort isn't analog |
| 20:19.17 | doughecka | ooh, analog |
| 20:19.18 | doughecka | ick |
| 20:19.22 | Patlabor221 | yes a realay or amp is waht I am thingking |
| 20:19.38 | Patlabor221 | who sells these things |
| 20:19.40 | doughecka | you can get LPT port controlled relays |
| 20:19.53 | captain_proton | doughecka: he needs analog signals you doof |
| 20:19.57 | sussudio | gameport? |
| 20:20.06 | Patlabor221 | still digital I think |
| 20:20.10 | doughecka | indeed |
| 20:20.11 | sussudio | nope |
| 20:20.16 | doughecka | well |
| 20:20.17 | sussudio | not on a pc |
| 20:20.19 | doughecka | it has analog in |
| 20:20.26 | doughecka | for old joysticks |
| 20:20.27 | captain_proton | sussudio: gameport doesn't do output |
| 20:20.31 | doughecka | dunno about output |
| 20:20.36 | Patlabor221 | and I need like 16 ( perferbaly more ) channels |
| 20:20.46 | sussudio | captain_proton : what about the midi setting |
| 20:20.48 | doughecka | hrm, microcontroller? |
| 20:20.58 | Patlabor221 | midi is data |
| 20:21.03 | captain_proton | sussudio: midi is digital |
| 20:21.21 | Patlabor221 | the only real DA on a pc is sound |
| 20:21.27 | Patlabor221 | but that's just 2 channels |
| 20:21.31 | doughecka | heh |
| 20:21.34 | captain_proton | hmm, 16 channels |
| 20:21.42 | doughecka | ~16/2 |
| 20:21.42 | | 8 |
| 20:21.50 | doughecka | you need 8 sound blasters |
| 20:21.54 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:22.00 | Patlabor221 | I thought about a switch that would swap the output from a sound cards |
| 20:22.07 | Patlabor221 | doug you had to use a bot for that? |
| 20:22.12 | doughecka | no |
| 20:22.15 | Patlabor221 | like a LPT swich |
| 20:22.22 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:22.24 | Patlabor221 | but I know they make card for this |
| 20:22.28 | doughecka | they do |
| 20:22.33 | Patlabor221 | where do I get one |
| 20:22.36 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i could build you a USB device that did it :) |
| 20:22.40 | captain_proton | if i had the incentive |
| 20:22.41 | doughecka | I seen ads for them in NutsandVolts |
| 20:22.54 | Patlabor221 | cap: how hard would it be? |
| 20:22.55 | sussudio | why swap output. use a mixing panel |
| 20:23.16 | Patlabor221 | sussudio it needs to be controled by the CPU |
| 20:23.19 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: well, 1 PIC + 16 shift registers + 16 D/A's |
| 20:23.33 | captain_proton | then a driver would need to be written |
| 20:23.40 | captain_proton | which is pretty easy in linux, not sure about windows |
| 20:23.47 | sussudio | conrad would probably sell stuff like that ready made |
| 20:24.25 | Patlabor221 | they may but theydon't have an english page :) |
| 20:24.30 | doughecka | http://www.eagledaq.com/display_prod.php?product_id=1253 |
| 20:24.36 | doughecka | 8/16/24 Analog output channels (±10V) |
| 20:24.39 | doughecka | there ya go Patlabor221 |
| 20:24.53 | Patlabor221 | that is a bit spensice |
| 20:24.56 | Patlabor221 | spensive |
| 20:24.59 | doughecka | yup |
| 20:24.59 | captain_proton | there ya go |
| 20:25.06 | sussudio | www.conrad-electronic.com |
| 20:25.19 | doughecka | 1000 bucks... |
| 20:25.20 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 20:25.28 | doughecka | be cheaper to make your own PCI card |
| 20:26.03 | doughecka | http://www.instrument.com/pci/pci20093w.asp |
| 20:26.12 | doughecka | dunno about price, you have to register |
| 20:26.19 | sussudio | Attention USA/Canada Unfortunately, due to high insurance costs and |
| 20:26.19 | sussudio | liability reasons, we don't deliver articles to the U.S.A or Canada. |
| 20:26.19 | sussudio | We do, however, send articles to all other countries. |
| 20:26.21 | sussudio | heh. |
| 20:26.30 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:26.32 | doughecka | mexico? |
| 20:26.43 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 20:26.50 | Patlabor221 | hmm perhaps a swich would work just as well |
| 20:26.56 | Patlabor221 | it could be decently fast |
| 20:27.08 | doughecka | oh? |
| 20:27.09 | Patlabor221 | that's cool |
| 20:27.13 | doughecka | where did you get those? |
| 20:27.15 | Patlabor221 | I found 1 LCD here |
| 20:27.23 | Patlabor221 | need to find the card |
| 20:27.32 | captain_proton | doughecka: its a sekret |
| 20:27.39 | doughecka | ? |
| 20:28.00 | captain_proton | my hardware pimp is mine alone |
| 20:28.34 | Patlabor221 | you must keep these people close to you |
| 20:28.48 | doughecka | heh |
| 20:29.04 | Patlabor221 | maybe something with steam |
| 20:29.26 | doughecka | anti-matter |
| 20:29.40 | Patlabor221 | well at least worm gears |
| 20:29.56 | doughecka | hm |
| 20:30.07 | Patlabor221 | and steper motors |
| 20:30.26 | doughecka | (channel 4 *groan, creak, snap, etc* click |
| 20:30.31 | doughecka | yea sure |
| 20:30.39 | Patlabor221 | what are you talking about |
| 20:30.44 | Patlabor221 | you don't even know what I am doing |
| 20:30.54 | doughecka | what are you doing? |
| 20:31.15 | Patlabor221 | it to is sekret |
| 20:31.21 | Patlabor221 | double top sekret |
| 20:31.33 | Patlabor221 | but it in volve photons |
| 20:32.26 | Patlabor221 | and 12 foot tall virtual dancing chicks |
| 20:32.44 | captain_proton | wow sounds like one of my projects |
| 20:32.57 | Patlabor221 | it involves music as well |
| 20:33.21 | Patlabor221 | I don't know, gonna be in CA in january? |
| 20:41.19 | Patlabor221 | I allso need to see how to make a 12 foot screen |
| 20:43.16 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:43.27 | captain_proton | depending on how many lcds i get we might be able to make a video wall :) |
| 20:43.55 | Patlabor221 | no I need projection |
| 20:44.03 | Patlabor221 | we have 2 projectors |
| 20:44.07 | Patlabor221 | and N computers |
| 20:44.54 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:44.57 | captain_proton | N computers? |
| 20:45.07 | Patlabor221 | as in n |
| 20:45.18 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:45.31 | captain_proton | you could do it with gstreamer |
| 20:45.40 | Patlabor221 | each comp could controol 2 devices |
| 20:45.50 | Patlabor221 | gstreamer? what does that do? |
| 20:45.56 | captain_proton | its a multimedia framework |
| 20:46.06 | captain_proton | with a sexy API |
| 20:46.15 | Patlabor221 | ohh I just need simple networking |
| 20:46.22 | Patlabor221 | and simple wave out |
| 20:46.24 | captain_proton | no video stuff? |
| 20:46.47 | Patlabor221 | the vids will be taken care of with 2 sperate comps, one on each projector |
| 20:46.57 | captain_proton | ohh separate videos |
| 20:46.59 | Patlabor221 | and they will have inputs from the perfomace |
| 20:47.05 | Patlabor221 | well video outs |
| 20:47.16 | Patlabor221 | basicly real time visulisation of a band playing |
| 20:47.20 | captain_proton | i was thinking split 1 video in half and project in halves |
| 20:47.22 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:47.25 | Patlabor221 | ohh no |
| 20:47.40 | captain_proton | realtime visualization.... |
| 20:47.42 | captain_proton | easy :) |
| 20:47.42 | Patlabor221 | we got this winamp plugin of a 3d dacning chick that goes in tim to the music |
| 20:47.49 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:47.59 | Patlabor221 | and then something to controll the lights |
| 20:49.10 | Patlabor221 | I have line-in input plugins for winamp so that's all good |
| 20:49.32 | Patlabor221 | I just thought it would be cool to be able to control some spot lights from the sound as well |
| 20:50.30 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 20:51.11 | Patlabor221 | I can hook up motors to some dimmers |
| 20:51.21 | Patlabor221 | I just need someting to turn the motors |
| 20:53.26 | Patlabor221 | would also be nice to be able to record a light ing sequence. |
| 20:53.34 | SpacemanSpiff | Hey everyone |
| 20:53.41 | Patlabor221 | tho I don't know if they could hold timing that well |
| 20:53.41 | SpacemanSpiff | Heya jzaun.. it's been a while |
| 20:54.51 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you just gotta trigger the light transitions off of beat detection from your line in |
| 20:55.04 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:55.48 | Patlabor221 | it's the making of the lights transition that is the sticy point now |
| 20:55.53 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 20:56.01 | captain_proton | light transitions can be digital |
| 20:56.07 | Patlabor221 | on/off? |
| 20:56.11 | captain_proton | ('cause you can switch off power) |
| 20:56.36 | Patlabor221 | I would like fades |
| 20:56.42 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:56.46 | captain_proton | thats a bit trickier |
| 20:57.06 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:57.15 | Patlabor221 | I can just run them manualy |
| 20:58.19 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmm |
| 20:59.05 | captain_proton | you mean X10? |
| 20:59.33 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:59.35 | Patlabor221 | that's it |
| 21:02.39 | Patlabor221 | bah they are like $50 each with a dimmer |
| 21:03.01 | captain_proton | yuck |
| 21:03.05 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:03.07 | captain_proton | is x10 wired or not? |
| 21:03.33 | Patlabor221 | wireless looks like |
| 21:04.04 | Patlabor221 | ohh no |
| 21:04.14 | Patlabor221 | it uses the powerline and a carrier |
| 21:04.32 | Patlabor221 | http://www.smarthome.com/aboutx10.html |
| 21:04.38 | captain_proton | ah |
| 21:04.54 | captain_proton | we should build ya some 802.11b light switches |
| 21:05.15 | Patlabor221 | bluetooth light switches :) |
| 21:05.24 | Patlabor221 | run by a PDA :) |
| 21:05.36 | captain_proton | if its 802.11b you can have a web interface for each light :) |
| 21:06.02 | Patlabor221 | then you guys will be messing with the lights from over there |
| 21:06.11 | captain_proton | of course |
| 21:07.29 | Patlabor221 | one of these days I would like to look into my cheap "moneky" idea. |
| 21:07.40 | captain_proton | pet monkey for light control? |
| 21:07.44 | Patlabor221 | no no |
| 21:07.47 | Patlabor221 | not light controll |
| 21:08.06 | Patlabor221 | thre is a thing called a "moneky" for CG animation |
| 21:08.24 | Patlabor221 | basicly like an erector set with rotary sensors |
| 21:08.31 | Patlabor221 | you make a "skeliton" |
| 21:08.44 | Patlabor221 | and then you can input stop motion type animations into a PC |
| 21:08.47 | Patlabor221 | all in 3d |
| 21:09.02 | Patlabor221 | but the things like a couple grand |
| 21:09.14 | Patlabor221 | and has this complex controler card |
| 21:09.23 | Patlabor221 | full of DSPs |
| 21:10.02 | Patlabor221 | so I got to thinking that you sould be able to use the parallell port to switch the outputs from the sound out |
| 21:10.11 | Patlabor221 | into a series of variable resistiors |
| 21:10.16 | Patlabor221 | and back into the sound in |
| 21:10.22 | Patlabor221 | and do the same thing |
| 21:10.28 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i'm dissapointed in you |
| 21:11.05 | MrApathyCream | how so? |
| 21:11.09 | captain_proton | no new commits |
| 21:11.20 | MrApathyCream | was working on centralizing flag handling |
| 21:11.40 | captain_proton | oooooo |
| 21:21.37 | captain_proton | damn my hardware pimp is good |
| 21:21.49 | Patlabor221 | get your box? |
| 21:22.20 | captain_proton | he said they almost certainly can score a 15" capacitive touchscreen along with lcd and a board from a thinkpad a30 |
| 21:22.46 | Patlabor221 | there you go |
| 21:29.40 | MrApathyCream | is bzflag still hurumphing about cvs? |
| 21:30.21 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: haven't heard any harumphs recently but i'd guess yes |
| 21:32.04 | dutch_rai | anyone behind his keyboard? |
| 21:32.17 | captain_proton | sorta |
| 21:32.27 | dutch_rai | sorta? eating? |
| 21:32.38 | captain_proton | multitasking |
| 21:32.49 | dutch_rai | busy huh |
| 22:35.35 | MrApathyCream | cappy, it's not perfect, but it does centralize somewhat... care to take a look |
| 22:36.23 | captain_proton | +#ifdef _WIN32 |
| 22:36.24 | captain_proton | +#pragma warning( 4: 4786 ) |
| 22:36.24 | captain_proton | +#endif |
| 22:37.02 | captain_proton | looks good |
| 22:37.06 | captain_proton | i'll do a linux compile test |
| 22:44.13 | captain_proton | did you make this diff via cvs diff or svn diff? |
| 22:45.30 | MrApathyCream | cvs |
| 22:45.59 | captain_proton | use svn diff plz |
| 22:47.16 | MrApathyCream | arg how can i do that... came from cvs |
| 22:47.24 | captain_proton | it did? oof |
| 22:47.42 | MrApathyCream | why not check your primary svn into e7? |
| 22:48.02 | captain_proton | because i don't want to fudge up cvs until we get e8 out the door |
| 22:48.13 | MrApathyCream | were trying to get e8 out the door? |
| 22:48.21 | captain_proton | well i thought we were |
| 22:48.25 | MrApathyCream | oh, k |
| 22:48.45 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ! |
| 22:48.52 | MrApathyCream | i can redo against svn i spose |
| 22:49.00 | MrApathyCream | will do in a little while |
| 22:49.33 | MrApathyCream | shotstrategy is still decentralized, but at least for normal shots it's not |
| 22:49.52 | MrApathyCream | would be oogley to change that |
| 22:50.36 | MrApathyCream | bbiab |
| 23:08.04 | BZFlag | yeah, we are planning e8. captain_proton: your changes don't break compatibility do they? |
| 23:09.09 | captain_proton | BZFlag: not so far but i might was well just release then i'll munge up CVS |
| 23:18.57 | BZFlag | perhaps. |
| 23:19.50 | BZFlag | somebody dcc me something. |
| 23:22.48 | BZFlag | anybody awake? |
| 23:26.02 | captain_proton | BZFlag: your firewall is still blocking |
| 23:26.05 | scanline | oops |
| 23:26.06 | BZFlag | captain_proton: thanx. worked. sending back renamed. |
| 23:26.13 | BZFlag | hmm.... |
| 23:26.20 | captain_proton | dcc send means an incoming connection |
| 23:26.21 | BZFlag | brb |
| 23:40.45 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: /svn/bzflag/1.7 |
| 23:40.49 | captain_proton | and you don't need the last argument |
| 23:40.52 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 23:40.55 | captain_proton | that just gives it a local directory to check out into |
| 23:41.58 | MrApathyCream | --yanking-- |
| 23:43.13 | BZFlag | captain_proton: got it? |
| 23:43.48 | captain_proton | BZFlag: yep |
| 23:44.20 | BZFlag | cool. dcc is fixed. ;-) |
| 23:45.13 | BZFlag | captain_proton: just testing a larger binary. |
| 23:45.29 | captain_proton | i was wondering why you sent that |
| 23:45.58 | MrApathyCream | so what are we trying to do for e8? |
| 23:47.21 | captain_proton | i think we should get akira/chestal's patch in and release |
| 23:47.58 | MrApathyCream | xparency, and what else was that? |
| 23:49.15 | captain_proton | switch between new and old hud |
| 23:49.22 | MrApathyCream | oh, ok |
| 23:49.34 | captain_proton | i don't like having the old hud in there but we might as well just release |
| 23:49.50 | MrApathyCream | funny thing is, i wasn't in love we the new hud, but now when i go back, i can't stand the old one |
| 23:49.58 | MrApathyCream | s/we/with/ |
| 23:50.51 | MrApathyCream | some have asked for a suicide key, for when u get stuck. which would prolly be simple |
| 23:51.09 | captain_proton | heh |
| 23:51.13 | captain_proton | yeah, suicide is simple |
| 23:51.21 | captain_proton | looks like fiberchunks was thinking about it |
| 23:51.43 | captain_proton | should be a client-side command though, not a keybinding |
| 23:52.01 | MrApathyCream | nutter thing was time-limited flags, which would also prolly be simple (server controled) |
| 23:52.01 | captain_proton | though i suppose we should implement a commands-based structure anyway (like 1.8 had) |
| 23:52.28 | MrApathyCream | not that i care, by why not a key? |
| 23:52.42 | captain_proton | too easy to hit accidentally |
| 23:52.49 | MrApathyCream | 'f11' |
| 23:52.54 | captain_proton | if we move to a commands based structure if they really want a key they can bind it themselves |
| 23:53.00 | scanline | escape-meta-shift-F11 |
| 23:53.26 | scanline | or, hold down caps-lock and type "DIE" |
| 23:53.57 | scanline | ooh, how about this! it suicides you if you type in all-caps |
| 23:54.01 | MrApathyCream | wasn't a fan of the `set xxx stuff to hard to remember |
| 23:54.24 | captain_proton | they shouldn't be setting stuff that often anyway |
| 23:55.04 | MrApathyCream | could it be menu based? |
| 23:55.17 | captain_proton | explain what you're thinking |
| 23:55.30 | MrApathyCream | i dunno, i just can never remember stuff i need to type |
| 23:55.38 | MrApathyCream | bein' ancient, and all |
| 23:55.59 | captain_proton | well, here's what i'm thinkin |
| 23:56.24 | captain_proton | a player doesn't need to remember any `set blah commands |
| 23:56.55 | captain_proton | and so long as all the commands are decently documented and we have a reasonable console help system... |
| 23:57.27 | MrApathyCream | so how to i commit suicide then? |
| 23:57.37 | captain_proton | /suicide ? |
| 23:58.12 | MrApathyCream | would be cool if you clicked something another graphic popped up with all kinds of knobs and gizmos |
| 23:58.20 | MrApathyCream | pushing the red button self destructs. |
| 23:58.33 | MrApathyCream | other gizmos would be things like binocs, etc |
| 23:58.41 | MrApathyCream | radar settings |
| 23:58.55 | captain_proton | we could add that too, but its pretty superficial |
| 23:59.53 | MrApathyCream | maybe would be too slow for normal stuff |