| 00:00:05 | doughecka | heh, like a 1000 watt |
| 00:00:20 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:00:23 | FrugalBastard | Patlabor221: i was thinking a row of supplies |
| 00:00:23 | doughecka | hows this? |
| 00:00:24 | doughecka | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2058093307 |
| 00:00:33 | Patlabor221 | that would be best cap |
| 00:00:42 | doughecka | its 2 256 kit |
| 00:00:45 | FrugalBastard | i'll probably end up building my own chassis |
| 00:00:51 | Patlabor221 | I was just gonna ask that |
| 00:01:00 | doughecka | is that good? |
| 00:01:03 | Patlabor221 | get some old AT Powersupplys |
| 00:01:05 | doughecka | that auction? |
| 00:01:08 | Patlabor221 | to just run the drives |
| 00:01:18 | FrugalBastard | go take a course for the shop in the engineering center |
| 00:01:23 | Patlabor221 | that's 2 256 dimms |
| 00:01:27 | doughecka | FrugalBastard: you gonna raid these? |
| 00:01:31 | doughecka | Patlabor221: yea, for 55 |
| 00:01:33 | FrugalBastard | then build it outta sheet metal and plexiglass |
| 00:01:38 | Patlabor221 | sure that's not bad |
| 00:01:39 | FrugalBastard | doughecka: yeah, software raid |
| 00:01:43 | doughecka | ooh plexiglass! |
| 00:01:45 | Patlabor221 | mmmmm plexi......... |
| 00:01:47 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:01:54 | Patlabor221 | lexan is better dosn't crack |
| 00:01:59 | FrugalBastard | yeah |
| 00:02:05 | FrugalBastard | or lucite |
| 00:02:11 | Patlabor221 | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lucite. |
| 00:02:25 | Patlabor221 | transperant lauminum. |
| 00:02:29 | FrugalBastard | hahaha |
| 00:02:38 | doughecka | hahhaa |
| 00:03:09 | doughecka | 75 for 2 265 DDR? |
| 00:03:16 | doughecka | that good? |
| 00:03:18 | Patlabor221 | good thick slab of lucite will stop bullters |
| 00:03:21 | Patlabor221 | bullets |
| 00:03:24 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:03:32 | doughecka | dorm room wars... |
| 00:03:37 | Patlabor221 | 256's are like $50 each |
| 00:03:41 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:03:48 | doughecka | bah |
| 00:03:55 | doughecka | hes got a super high max bid on it |
| 00:03:56 | FrugalBastard | 512 PC133 for $27 ;) |
| 00:03:59 | doughecka | with 2 min to go |
| 00:04:05 | doughecka | FrugalBastard: DDR!!! |
| 00:04:07 | Patlabor221 | that's not to bad |
| 00:04:12 | doughecka | FrugalBastard... |
| 00:04:12 | Patlabor221 | no doug |
| 00:04:19 | Patlabor221 | then it would be 2100 not 133 |
| 00:04:29 | doughecka | yes yes |
| 00:04:29 | Patlabor221 | we get it for like 25 |
| 00:04:32 | doughecka | its 2100 |
| 00:04:33 | doughecka | wow |
| 00:04:35 | doughecka | 25? |
| 00:04:37 | doughecka | send me some! |
| 00:04:38 | doughecka | :P |
| 00:04:40 | Patlabor221 | for 133 |
| 00:04:45 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 00:04:51 | doughecka | bah |
| 00:04:56 | doughecka | sell it on ebay |
| 00:04:57 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:04:59 | Patlabor221 | we do |
| 00:05:01 | Patlabor221 | for $40 |
| 00:05:07 | doughecka | oh? |
| 00:05:11 | doughecka | lemme see |
| 00:05:23 | SpacemanSpiff | Hey people |
| 00:06:07 | doughecka | I dont see any DDR on your guys ebay page |
| 00:06:18 | Patlabor221 | have I ever said anyting about DDR? |
| 00:06:28 | Patlabor221 | do oyu ever read? |
| 00:06:29 | doughecka | rolls his eyes |
| 00:06:48 | doughecka | then why bring up the topic of old ram? |
| 00:06:49 | Patlabor221 | we don't sell DDR |
| 00:06:50 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:06:55 | Patlabor221 | cus cap needs it |
| 00:07:03 | Patlabor221 | you are not the only one in the universe you know |
| 00:07:12 | Patlabor221 | there is no margin on DDR |
| 00:07:16 | Patlabor221 | it's not worth it |
| 00:07:19 | doughecka | I aint? |
| 00:07:21 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:07:31 | doughecka | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2058102253 |
| 00:07:34 | doughecka | 90 bucks? |
| 00:08:08 | Patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 00:08:18 | Patlabor221 | stuff runs for about $100 |
| 00:08:21 | doughecka | or I buy it now for 99 bucks and I can get a upgrade to something All "BUY IT NOW" Customers can UPGRADE to a Hard Drive Cooler for only $ 5.00 extra or a Stick of SPECIAL OVERCLOCKING DDR RAM PC 2400 512 Mb for only $15 and free Shipping for the hard drive cooler and /or the stick of ram.. A $25.00 VALUE!! |
| 00:08:44 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:08:45 | Patlabor221 | I don't know how they make money |
| 00:08:46 | doughecka | sounds good |
| 00:08:49 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:08:52 | Patlabor221 | we can't get it for under 92 |
| 00:08:55 | doughecka | do you think its a rip off? |
| 00:09:04 | doughecka | scam? |
| 00:09:08 | doughecka | bad stuff? |
| 00:09:19 | Patlabor221 | no why would it be |
| 00:09:19 | doughecka | they have 149 feedbacks, with 3 bad |
| 00:09:25 | Patlabor221 | that's prety good |
| 00:09:28 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:09:37 | Patlabor221 | he's making his money on shiping |
| 00:09:40 | doughecka | so 90 bucks is good huh? |
| 00:09:42 | doughecka | yea |
| 00:09:43 | doughecka | I see that |
| 00:09:44 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:09:50 | doughecka | its 13 bucks for shipping |
| 00:09:55 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:09:58 | Patlabor221 | and handaling |
| 00:10:03 | doughecka | pff |
| 00:10:12 | doughecka | handaling smadeling |
| 00:10:18 | Patlabor221 | it's not a charity man |
| 00:10:24 | Patlabor221 | they do this to make a living |
| 00:10:26 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:10:59 | doughecka | ok, so I have 107 total after my mobo price |
| 00:11:10 | doughecka | I need that for ram.. |
| 00:11:22 | doughecka | thats my max price including shipping |
| 00:11:30 | FrugalBastard | it oughta be a charity |
| 00:11:38 | doughecka | FrugalBastard: yea!! |
| 00:11:39 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:12:04 | Patlabor221 | if it was then noone would sell antying |
| 00:12:20 | doughecka | but sales would shoot up... :P |
| 00:12:32 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:12:33 | doughecka | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2057981260 |
| 00:12:41 | Patlabor221 | but then people would starve |
| 00:12:41 | doughecka | 58 ram chips |
| 00:12:47 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:12:59 | doughecka | registers ebay.con |
| 00:13:15 | FrugalBastard | will cook for hardware |
| 00:13:17 | Patlabor221 | that seems high |
| 00:13:20 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:13:22 | doughecka | then 1 Stick of NANYA 256MB DDR , PC 2100 266MHz |
| 00:13:29 | doughecka | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059241154 |
| 00:13:32 | doughecka | is nanya good? |
| 00:13:37 | doughecka | FrugalBastard: me too |
| 00:13:54 | doughecka | FrugalBastard: problem, all I make is eggs and ramen noodles |
| 00:14:23 | doughecka | These are PC-2100 but they are backward compatible with motherboards that use PC-1600 modules |
| 00:14:27 | doughecka | hows that work? |
| 00:14:27 | Patlabor221 | never heard of them |
| 00:14:31 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:14:38 | doughecka | ok, sounds like a cheapy brand |
| 00:14:41 | Patlabor221 | PC1600 is 100 mhz ddr |
| 00:14:49 | Patlabor221 | PC2100 is 133 DDR |
| 00:14:54 | doughecka | ok, so its simple to downclock the DDR then |
| 00:14:56 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:15:02 | Patlabor221 | just like PC133 works in PC100 systems |
| 00:15:07 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:15:08 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:15:28 | doughecka | is that a good price? |
| 00:15:45 | doughecka | even if its a never heard of it brand? |
| 00:15:47 | Patlabor221 | what did I say 256's weent for? |
| 00:15:51 | doughecka | 50 |
| 00:15:53 | Patlabor221 | I have never heard of them |
| 00:16:00 | doughecka | me niether |
| 00:16:03 | Patlabor221 | ok then what is the price n ebay? |
| 00:16:08 | doughecka | FrugalBastard: you heard of them? |
| 00:16:13 | doughecka | hmm, 30 bucks |
| 00:16:20 | doughecka | but 50 is for name brand |
| 00:16:36 | Patlabor221 | it's 50 for any |
| 00:16:39 | Patlabor221 | even generic |
| 00:16:45 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:16:47 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:16:50 | Patlabor221 | ahh I see where I was confused |
| 00:16:59 | Patlabor221 | it's certified ram that is tested |
| 00:17:01 | doughecka | oh yea, heres my case I am getting http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2057667683 |
| 00:17:02 | Patlabor221 | not registerd |
| 00:17:06 | doughecka | Patlabor221: ok |
| 00:17:24 | doughecka | snickers at that "case" |
| 00:17:26 | Patlabor221 | I'm showing that you can get a 512 PC2100 for 98 with shiping |
| 00:17:40 | doughecka | ok... |
| 00:17:49 | doughecka | I can pay 107 max... |
| 00:17:53 | doughecka | from paypal.. |
| 00:17:55 | FrugalBastard | hooray for loud mahler |
| 00:18:01 | doughecka | FrugalBastard: ? |
| 00:18:51 | Patlabor221 | hmmm then isn't 98 less then 107 |
| 00:19:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:19:06 | doughecka | slightly |
| 00:19:14 | doughecka | but I dont want to pay via mail order |
| 00:19:26 | Patlabor221 | ahh yes |
| 00:19:30 | doughecka | unless I can pay via bidpay/paypal/etc |
| 00:19:34 | Patlabor221 | then you are left to the wind |
| 00:19:38 | doughecka | grins |
| 00:19:59 | doughecka | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059522839 |
| 00:20:06 | doughecka | one day left... |
| 00:20:08 | Patlabor221 | what good is the water cooling system if your not gonna over clock |
| 00:20:14 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:20:19 | Patlabor221 | and you can't OC with that ram |
| 00:20:31 | doughecka | yea, thats not a case, its a whole PC |
| 00:20:41 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 00:20:43 | doughecka | with 2 gbytes of DDR ram in it |
| 00:20:45 | Patlabor221 | I can read |
| 00:20:47 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 00:20:49 | Patlabor221 | unlike you can |
| 00:20:57 | Patlabor221 | but it's PC2100 |
| 00:20:57 | doughecka | shrugs |
| 00:21:32 | Patlabor221 | so bid 100 on it |
| 00:21:32 | doughecka | cool http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2058985862 |
| 00:21:41 | doughecka | 100: I need to pay shipping too |
| 00:21:42 | Patlabor221 | that leave you with 7 for shiping |
| 00:21:56 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:21:57 | Patlabor221 | it was 6 for shiping |
| 00:22:02 | doughecka | oh, ok |
| 00:22:23 | Patlabor221 | once again READ |
| 00:22:23 | doughecka | thats close... |
| 00:22:26 | Patlabor221 | so |
| 00:22:32 | Patlabor221 | 100 is the MOST you can pay |
| 00:22:37 | Patlabor221 | if it goes for less |
| 00:22:40 | Patlabor221 | then hey great |
| 00:22:44 | doughecka | ok... |
| 00:22:46 | Patlabor221 | if it goes for more |
| 00:22:53 | Patlabor221 | then you couldn't get it anyway |
| 00:22:59 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:23:00 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:23:07 | doughecka | has to go |
| 00:23:14 | doughecka | is away: doing something |
| 00:23:19 | Patlabor221 | you have no clue how it works do you. |
| 00:23:27 | doughecka | yes I do |
| 00:24:39 | Patlabor221 | cap: are you realy gonna put 40 drives in a system? |
| 00:25:18 | FrugalBastard | gonna put as many as i can get |
| 00:26:54 | Patlabor221 | that will be a sight to beehold |
| 00:27:38 | Patlabor221 | and it will humm loike a mudda fruger |
| 00:27:49 | FrugalBastard | yup |
| 00:29:22 | FrugalBastard | maybe i'll build some sort of backplane into the chassis |
| 00:29:27 | FrugalBastard | :) |
| 00:30:16 | FrugalBastard | drive sleds would be cool |
| 00:31:38 | FrugalBastard | but if i do it right fannage wouldn't really be necessary |
| 00:33:06 | FrugalBastard | we should get a #bzflag game of literati goin' |
| 00:33:24 | doughecka | ? |
| 00:33:41 | FrugalBastard | yay-hoo's version of scrabble |
| 00:33:48 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:33:54 | doughecka | is away: still busy |
| 00:42:34 | captain_proton | its so strange being behind the orchestra when listening to music on my computer |
| 01:02:13 | bzdougggg | yawns |
| 01:02:21 | jolly | hello |
| 01:02:22 | bzdougggg | jolly jolly |
| 01:02:25 | bzdougggg | :) |
| 01:02:26 | bzdougggg | hi |
| 01:02:28 | jolly | lol |
| 01:02:55 | jolly | so whats up here? |
| 01:04:27 | jolly | come on, someone talk, lol :) |
| 01:07:15 | bzdougggg | hmm |
| 01:08:19 | bzdougggg | starts yapping at jolly |
| 01:08:27 | jolly | haha |
| 01:08:39 | sussudio | well, there was this little boy from kentucky who washed his car and then some killer pigeons came and took a big crap all over it and ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti ftttfttfttt |
| 01:09:05 | bzdougggg | who is this "little boy"? |
| 01:09:27 | Patlabor221 | yeah cus doug dosn't have a car |
| 01:10:04 | sussudio | 1) you, little boy |
| 01:10:09 | sussudio | 2) sssssh he thinks it is |
| 01:10:13 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: you want removable drive sledds? |
| 01:10:17 | Patlabor221 | I think we can get those |
| 01:11:07 | sussudio | eep |
| 01:11:08 | bzdougggg | hmm |
| 01:11:24 | bzdougggg | I have a 63 Chevy |
| 01:11:25 | bzdougggg | :P |
| 01:11:33 | bzdougggg | got it for 400 bucks |
| 01:11:35 | Patlabor221 | dude farm trucks don't count |
| 01:11:53 | bzdougggg | lol |
| 01:12:19 | sussudio | hah |
| 01:12:21 | sussudio | stupid people on tv |
| 01:12:35 | bzdougggg | both the front brakes are stuck, and it drinks fuel like it going out of style... |
| 01:12:40 | sussudio | getting a cat on world pet day |
| 01:12:51 | sussudio | "yeah, it's normal when he wants to kill you" |
| 01:13:05 | sussudio | MEWEEEMMMMMMSSSHHHHHH GROWL TEAR KILL HURT |
| 01:13:24 | bzdougggg | LOL |
| 01:13:27 | | bzdougggg: sorry... |
| 01:13:27 | bzdougggg | ibot laugh |
| 01:13:31 | bzdougggg | pff |
| 01:15:33 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: how much $? |
| 01:15:47 | Patlabor221 | not sure |
| 01:15:55 | Patlabor221 | I will check when I go in there tomrow |
| 01:16:13 | captain_proton | cool |
| 01:16:30 | captain_proton | i'm gonna cycle X - leaked a bunch over the last couple weeks, gotta free up the ole' ram again |
| 01:16:43 | bzdougggg | haha |
| 01:16:45 | bzdougggg | weeks |
| 01:16:53 | bzdougggg | try that on windows |
| 01:18:00 | captain_proton | ok time to go back and teach spaceman a lesson |
| 01:18:16 | doughecka | is away: bed |
| 02:16:32 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:16:51 | captain_proton | there we go :) |
| 02:20:30 | sussudio | hmm yes |
| 02:22:07 | captain_proton | i'm still laughing about that |
| 02:22:43 | sussudio | spiffy has issues |
| 02:22:53 | captain_proton | yepyep |
| 02:23:12 | captain_proton | Space Commander Travis isn't interested in you anymore sussudio |
| 02:23:15 | sussudio | he was kinda defensive about my inflatble woman remark |
| 02:23:26 | captain_proton | now he's spiff's arch-nemesis |
| 02:23:50 | sussudio | hmm k |
| 02:25:15 | sussudio | i just go after bubu. whenever he's on, which is like once every 3 weeks. |
| 02:26:07 | captain_proton | i liked the text in the corner of that map |
| 02:26:17 | sussudio | heh. |
| 02:26:33 | sussudio | there's one next to it but you can only read it when you jump |
| 02:30:40 | captain_proton | where is nuum, i gotta ask him if he's got music by some guy |
| 02:37:25 | captain_proton | hmm, Xft2 is cool |
| 02:37:49 | | nuum was last seen on #bzflag 22 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: jzaun: any work to your bzflag site? last time i saw it it had prots name in lights... [Fri Sep 13 04:01:17 2002] |
| 02:37:49 | sussudio | ibot seen nuum |
| 02:37:59 | captain_proton | nuum = blair |
| 02:38:07 | | blair was last seen on #bzflag 3 hours, 53 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: cuz it used to work. [Sat Oct 5 23:44:36 2002] |
| 02:38:07 | sussudio | ibot seen blair |
| 02:40:20 | sussudio | -|- (Jam_&_Spoon)_[02]_NASA_Nocturnal_Audio_Sensory_Awakening.mp3 (15,336,523 bytes 171kbps VBR Joint Stereo 11mins 58secs Genre:Trance Year:1993 Album:Tripomatic Fairytales 2002 |
| 02:40:29 | sussudio | bleep boing ping |
| 02:40:54 | captain_proton | bwahahaha, tomorrow i go get about 8 glass cd's from the library |
| 02:41:05 | | No, damit!!! |
| 02:41:05 | sussudio | ibot rejoice |
| 02:41:17 | captain_proton | haha |
| 02:41:53 | captain_proton | sussudio: were you the one who did BUNNIES? |
| 02:42:07 | sussudio | yes i was |
| 02:42:39 | captain_proton | thought so |
| 02:44:35 | captain_proton | ponders trying vte again |
| 02:45:20 | sussudio | music....making me sleepy...... |
| 02:45:43 | sussudio | maybe it's 12 minutes cause they're playing it at about a quarter of the speed |
| 02:46:31 | sussudio | HAH |
| 02:46:45 | sussudio | kuro5hin: |
| 02:46:46 | sussudio | D'oh! |
| 02:46:46 | sussudio | I can't seem to talk to the mod_perl server. This probably means that we've taken it down for a few minutes to update something. Please be patient, I'm sure we'll be back up presently. |
| 02:52:31 | captain_proton | jpablo: do you know if they ever fixed the 'bad mojo in procedure car' error in sol from gnome-games? |
| 02:53:33 | jpablo | humm, Works For Me (tm). |
| 02:53:47 | captain_proton | well, it works, it'd just crash occasionally |
| 02:54:02 | jpablo | i haven't see it :P |
| 02:57:05 | captain_proton | shrugs |
| 03:33:03 | blackhound | 'lo |
| 03:33:43 | sussudio | pyramids, why you should add them. A presentation by sussudio the mean laser camper. |
| 04:51:50 | captain_proton | anybody up for literati? |
| 04:55:04 | sussudio | wtf is literati |
| 04:57:46 | captain_proton | scrabble without the trade name |
| 04:59:50 | sussudio | google is weird. |
| 05:00:01 | sussudio | literati gets me on "gay books" |
| 05:47:31 | sussudio | never go what |
| 05:47:45 | Widget | Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line. |
| 05:48:06 | sussudio | *shrug*. |
| 05:48:06 | Widget | Though if I were forced to, I would play a Vienna Gambit (f4) |
| 05:48:46 | sussudio | bah political correctness sucks. |
| 05:48:53 | sussudio | "childhood obesity" |
| 05:49:00 | sussudio | "BIG CHUBBY FAT KIDDIES!!!!!!!!!!!!" |
| 05:49:04 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 05:49:52 | | OK, captain_proton. |
| 05:49:52 | captain_proton | ibot, childhood obesity is <reply>BIG CHUBBY FAT KIDDIES!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:50:23 | sussudio | some people dont get it........... |
| 05:50:27 | sussudio | pyramids. |
| 05:51:16 | sussudio | killed em 16 times in a row with laser |
| 05:51:28 | Widget | "It took me half a lifetime to invent it. I'm sure you've discovered my deep and abiding interest in pain. At present I'm writing the definitive work on the subject. So I want you to be totally honest with me on how The Machine makes you feel." |
| 05:51:30 | sussudio | how hard is it to put some pyramids on a map |
| 05:51:59 | Widget | "What did this do to you? Tell me. And remember, this is for posterity, so be honest -- how do you feel?" |
| 05:52:14 | captain_proton | sussudio: obviously pretty difficult |
| 05:52:22 | sussudio | yeah really |
| 05:52:43 | captain_proton | or at least if you're too lazy to add them specify -L |
| 05:52:49 | captain_proton | rather, -f L |
| 05:53:38 | sussudio | any idea why that OK corral map sucks so much? even with 1 shot? it's laggy as hell |
| 05:54:09 | captain_proton | dunno, cool map but yeah, lag is a problem |
| 05:54:15 | sussudio | but why |
| 05:54:21 | dutchrai | Try Acropolis...MORE laggy |
| 05:54:22 | dutchrai | Try Acropolis...MORE laggy |
| 05:54:34 | dutchrai | oops..sorry |
| 05:54:34 | sussudio | no, acropolis is just tasking on the videocard...... |
| 05:54:38 | dutchrai | :-) |
| 05:54:45 | sussudio | for some reason OK corral causes immense lag |
| 05:55:03 | captain_proton | causes? |
| 05:55:15 | sussudio | yeah something must be causing it |
| 05:55:26 | sussudio | it's really only that map as far as i can remember |
| 05:55:40 | sussudio | lag increases, people go [nr]..... |
| 05:55:41 | dutchrai | Maybe it is all the hollow structures? |
| 05:55:58 | sussudio | i have no idea really |
| 05:56:03 | captain_proton | building structures should have no influence on lag |
| 05:56:05 | dutchrai | me neither |
| 05:56:17 | captain_proton | lots of shots, # of gm's... |
| 05:56:18 | sussudio | nobody was running 1.7e4 either |
| 05:56:30 | captain_proton | those are the things that generate higher numbers of packets |
| 05:56:34 | captain_proton | world is all stored local |
| 05:57:02 | dutchrai | Maube becuase it uses 3 digits behind the comma for all structures, and it's 32k |
| 05:57:21 | dutchrai | Uses spaces instead of tabs for separators too |
| 05:57:26 | dutchrai | Makes file bigger |
| 05:57:34 | sussudio | but isnt it loaded once? |
| 05:57:51 | dutchrai | Yup, but maybe BZFS/BZFlag doesn't handle maps this size well |
| 05:58:09 | dutchrai | Open the ok.bzw file..it's a mess |
| 05:58:12 | dutchrai | :-( |
| 05:58:18 | sussudio | k |
| 05:58:41 | sussudio | i'll run my map sanitizer on it |
| 05:58:48 | dutchrai | Ok.. |
| 05:59:14 | dutchrai | Is it a tool you have? If so, and if you're willing, I wouldn't mind hosting it on my site |
| 05:59:18 | sussudio | grr php *()$#@ |
| 05:59:38 | dutchrai | Problems? |
| 06:00:05 | sussudio | yeah mozilla doesnt like php |
| 06:00:12 | dutchrai | Nope |
| 06:00:49 | captain_proton | hmm, what a crazy song |
| 06:00:52 | sussudio | well neither does IE |
| 06:00:53 | sussudio | or opera |
| 06:00:55 | sussudio | or anything |
| 06:00:57 | captain_proton | "i have the password to your / shell account" |
| 06:01:37 | captain_proton | "i tried your birthday / i tried your moms first name" |
| 06:01:52 | dutchrai | What song is THAT? |
| 06:02:02 | captain_proton | something i found sitting in my unfiled mp3s directory |
| 06:02:10 | dutchrai | silly one |
| 06:02:50 | sussudio | ugh that ok corral map is insane |
| 06:02:56 | sussudio | no wonder bzfs chokes on it |
| 06:03:06 | dutchrai | yup |
| 06:03:16 | dutchrai | Too much detail |
| 06:03:17 | sussudio | destroys blind ambitions map generator |
| 06:03:30 | sussudio | let him use bzedit |
| 06:03:37 | dutchrai | I use a text editor :-) |
| 06:03:44 | dutchrai | Still prefer a calculator and the manual stuff |
| 06:03:53 | dutchrai | maybe it's just me |
| 06:06:03 | sussudio | linux and soundcards.................... |
| 06:06:19 | dutchrai | that's why I stay away from Linux |
| 06:06:29 | dutchrai | You spend too much time compiling and configuraing |
| 06:06:44 | captain_proton | to begin with |
| 06:06:45 | dutchrai | Widget? |
| 06:06:50 | captain_proton | once you know what you're doing its fast |
| 06:07:05 | dutchrai | agreed |
| 06:07:13 | dutchrai | very fast actually |
| 06:09:06 | captain_proton | who wants the shell account song? :) |
| 06:09:19 | dutchrai | nah.. |
| 06:09:27 | dutchrai | waste of HD space |
| 06:09:38 | dutchrai | but tx for asking |
| 06:11:59 | dutchrai | got to go for a while |
| 06:12:08 | dutchrai | bye |
| 06:12:34 | sussudio | hmmk cu |
| 06:12:39 | dutchrai | k |
| 06:13:16 | sussudio | i think astercity is fucked |
| 06:13:23 | sussudio | it's been sitting there with the same 3 users for a week |
| 06:13:28 | sussudio | and cant even connect to it |
| 07:52:42 | captain_proton | damn its boring here |
| 07:56:42 | bzlynx | it is |
| 08:48:04 | StormReturns | hi |
| 08:50:21 | Storm | hi again |
| 08:50:46 | Storm | does anyone here know anything about the bzflag CVS on sourceforge? |
| 08:52:18 | Storm | is anybody there? |
| 08:53:10 | | all is nothing but a despicable assload of saucyspleened rat-farts. |
| 08:53:10 | Storm | ibot insult all |
| 08:53:18 | Storm | :) |
| 08:54:05 | Storm | so none of you are here then, im all alone :(( |
| 08:54:24 | Storm | bye |
| 11:12:08 | doughecka | Thats Inconcivable!!!! |
| 11:26:55 | doughecka | ooh |
| 12:28:16 | bzgirl | hello |
| 13:02:28 | Chestal | hi |
| 13:04:54 | Storm | anyone here this time? |
| 13:05:21 | Chestal | always |
| 13:05:37 | Storm | yer, you were in the list this morning, but noone replied |
| 13:05:50 | Storm | just wondered if anyone knows how to get the source files from the CVS |
| 13:06:16 | Chestal | yes, you first need CVS of course. Unix, Windows? |
| 13:06:25 | Storm | windows |
| 13:06:34 | Storm | and i was trying to use the online one :p |
| 13:06:58 | Chestal | ah,hmm, the online one is only for browsing I guess |
| 13:07:11 | Chestal | you can view the files, but it's not practicable to really work with it |
| 13:07:20 | Storm | no, you can get the files - i think, but they were only workspace files |
| 13:07:26 | Storm | .dsw and .dsp |
| 13:07:45 | Chestal | well, but without local CVS software you do not get the advantages of CVS |
| 13:07:52 | Storm | ah |
| 13:07:57 | Storm | ive never used CVS before |
| 13:08:03 | Chestal | for example easy updates etc. |
| 13:08:26 | Chestal | well, basically it's storing revisons of text files, and revisions are stored as textual differences, line bases |
| 13:08:48 | Storm | ah |
| 13:08:52 | Chestal | you usually do a complete checkout to your local harddisk once and can then keep it up to date with incremental updates |
| 13:08:57 | Storm | well im looking for a CVS browser now |
| 13:09:13 | Chestal | hmm,I am not usign Windows, but I'm sure there are some |
| 13:09:35 | Chestal | you could use command lien cvs with the cygwin (or whatever it is called) environment probably |
| 13:09:40 | Chestal | but there are also GUI versions |
| 13:09:46 | Storm | ah |
| 13:09:49 | Chestal | cannot point you to one,though |
| 13:10:04 | Storm | k |
| 13:10:24 | Storm | downloading one of sourceforge now |
| 13:10:27 | Storm | WinCVS |
| 13:11:37 | Chestal | you can eithr use anonymous CVS access or use your sourceforge login if you have one |
| 13:11:48 | Chestal | I'd recommend the latter |
| 13:11:50 | Storm | i have one, i think |
| 13:12:07 | Chestal | access is usually done via ssh, don't know if WinCVS comes with it, I'd think so |
| 13:12:14 | Storm | so you use linux then, i thought about gettin that, but i still wanna use windows |
| 13:14:28 | Chestal | yes, using Linux here in the office (and at home) |
| 13:15:15 | Storm | theres one major drawback to me switching to linux, i cant use C# |
| 13:16:20 | Storm | hmmm |
| 13:18:06 | Storm | i dont understand this |
| 13:18:14 | Storm | never mind, ill just wait till the next release |
| 13:27:59 | Terminator | hi all |
| 13:28:23 | | bzbot was last seen on #bzflag 2 days, 22 hours, 1 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying: you know, I am sick of doing this, you find someother smuck to do your dirty work [Thu Oct 3 16:26:56 2002] |
| 13:28:24 | Terminator | ibot seen bzbot |
| 13:28:45 | Terminator | thrm |
| 13:28:50 | Terminator | *hrm |
| 13:29:06 | Terminator | sumone impersonated bzbot |
| 13:29:21 | blackhound | morning |
| 13:29:30 | Terminator | lol |
| 13:29:41 | Terminator | afternoon here |
| 13:31:25 | blackhound | Terminator: I thought terminators were from a very distant future, not just hours |
| 13:31:38 | blackhound | you must be one of the crappy early models |
| 13:32:17 | Terminator | lol |
| 13:32:41 | Terminator | i am from a distant future |
| 13:32:54 | Terminator | where at the moment it is afternoon |
| 13:32:54 | Terminator | hehe |
| 13:33:00 | blackhound | yeah yeah |
| 13:33:32 | | Terminator: i'm not following you... |
| 13:33:32 | Terminator | ibot blackhound |
| 13:34:33 | | OK, Terminator. |
| 13:34:33 | Terminator | ibot blackhound is <action> thinks blackhounds are dumb dirty dogs |
| 13:34:33 | Terminator | hrm |
| 13:34:43 | | ACTION thinks blackhounds are dumb dirty dogs |
| 13:34:43 | Terminator | ibot blackhound |
| 13:34:57 | Terminator | hehe |
| 13:34:58 | bzgirl | :) |
| 13:35:05 | Terminator | do ya want me to remove it |
| 13:35:18 | blackhound | at least I dont need a processor upgrade |
| 13:35:28 | blackhound | and dogs are good spoting your kind, so beware |
| 13:36:42 | Terminator | i don't |
| 13:36:42 | Terminator | hehe |
| 13:36:43 | Terminator | i can kill dogs in an istant ( i am only kidding i like animals ) |
| 13:37:07 | blackhound | a terminator with a heart... |
| 13:37:12 | blackhound | I know you |
| 13:37:29 | blackhound | are you the one from the wizard of oz? |
| 13:38:10 | Terminator | oh shut up |
| 13:38:14 | Terminator | hehe |
| 13:38:34 | Terminator | sit dog, sit |
| 13:38:40 | Terminator | hehe |
| 13:38:43 | blackhound | scratches |
| 13:38:48 | Terminator | jk |
| 13:38:53 | Terminator | lol |
| 13:39:31 | Terminator | terminates a couple of people for fun |
| 13:41:24 | Terminator | feels bored becuz its sunday and he is tired |
| 13:41:34 | Terminator | very tired |
| 13:41:38 | Terminator | hrm |
| 13:41:51 | Terminator | one thing i wanna try |
| 13:42:15 | | ...but dog is <reply> Buffering replacement for cat. URL: http://www.nl.linux.org/~wsl/dog.html... |
| 13:42:15 | Terminator | ibot dog is /me barks |
| 13:42:31 | Terminator | ah didn't think it would work |
| 13:43:21 | Terminator | is away |
| 13:57:18 | yoyox | Hi Chestal. |
| 13:57:52 | yoyox | Pleas Kill 'user' "Kill Teamate All" from ducati.bzglag.org ') |
| 13:58:45 | yoyox | Hallo? |
| 13:59:06 | yoyox | ;( |
| 13:59:42 | yoyox | !help |
| 13:59:45 | yoyox | .help |
| 13:59:54 | yoyox | bzgirl: :( |
| 14:00:23 | yoyox | bzgirl: Who admin ducati.bzflag.org? |
| 14:00:28 | bzgirl | oh hi yoyoy |
| 14:00:31 | bzgirl | yoyx |
| 14:00:37 | bzgirl | yoyox! |
| 14:00:41 | bzgirl | geez |
| 14:01:04 | yoyox | bzgirl: Hi :> |
| 14:01:12 | yoyox | bzgirl: Kill 'user' ;( |
| 14:01:37 | yoyox | Lame game ;( |
| 14:01:38 | yoyox | Bad game ;( |
| 14:09:08 | yoyox | Pff ;( Pokemon Master ;( |
| 14:12:20 | yoyox | Hmm. |
| 14:53:28 | Phactorial | Sorry |
| 14:53:32 | Phactorial | I didn't mean to do that all... |
| 15:23:40 | Obiwankenobi | any fabulous frog in the chat |
| 15:23:43 | Obiwankenobi | any fabulous frog in the chat?? |
| 16:00:48 | doughecka | barks |
| 16:01:22 | bzgirl | doughecka: where is your team? |
| 16:01:29 | doughecka | mine? |
| 16:01:31 | doughecka | ummm |
| 16:01:33 | doughecka | dunno |
| 16:01:36 | doughecka | where are they? |
| 16:01:44 | bzgirl | looks around |
| 16:01:47 | bzgirl | i dunno |
| 16:01:50 | doughecka | shrugs |
| 16:01:54 | doughecka | When I was in the 3rd grade, my teacher told me I was failing English. |
| 16:01:54 | doughecka | I told her that was unpossible. |
| 16:02:22 | bzgirl | har har |
| 16:03:19 | bzgirl | cu |
| 16:03:54 | doughecka | As a child, I lived in a very small town; 250 people, 3 Policemen. One Halloween night, a |
| 16:03:54 | doughecka | buddy of mine and I went into the Police station about midnight. No one was there. We |
| 16:03:54 | doughecka | figured they were out on calls for pranks or something. Anyway, we decided to try a really |
| 16:03:55 | doughecka | funny prank ourselves. Without much difficulty, we stole the toilet and threw it into the |
| 16:03:55 | doughecka | river. We laughed 'til we cried. We never got caught. The Police had nothing to go on. |
| 16:04:11 | bamf | fyi: vitamin bz was to play |
| 16:04:15 | bamf | we outta here now |
| 16:04:17 | bamf | ciao |
| 16:04:19 | doughecka | cya |
| 16:06:55 | Chestal | hmm |
| 16:07:02 | doughecka | mmmh |
| 16:25:13 | doughecka | heya Patlabor221!! |
| 16:33:45 | Chestal | hi dinah |
| 16:34:03 | dinah | hello |
| 16:34:09 | doughecka | greetings dinah |
| 16:35:04 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 16:35:20 | doughecka | the ceiling |
| 16:36:29 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:39:17 | doughecka | hi |
| 16:39:29 | Chestal | hi tank |
| 16:39:52 | doughecka | is away: dinner |
| 16:39:59 | doughecka | is away: lunch |
| 16:51:26 | Chestal | hi jpablo |
| 16:52:25 | jpablo | hi Ches. |
| 16:52:30 | jpablo | what's up ? |
| 16:52:46 | Chestal | nothing much |
| 16:52:56 | Chestal | I hoped there would be some matches today, but it doesn't look too good |
| 16:53:33 | jpablo | nop, gulmty can play now, but just fridays and saturdays. |
| 17:04:00 | Chestal | hi M1 |
| 17:08:16 | Widget | So Kramnik wins game two. |
| 17:08:22 | Chestal | oh, really? |
| 17:08:35 | Widget | Ya. |
| 17:08:38 | jpablo | kramnik vs who ? |
| 17:08:47 | Widget | Deep Fritz. |
| 17:08:47 | Chestal | I am surprised, he played with black? |
| 17:08:52 | Widget | He played white. |
| 17:08:56 | Widget | He played black game one. |
| 17:09:03 | Chestal | ah |
| 17:09:09 | jpablo | Widget: who won game 1 ? |
| 17:09:17 | Widget | jpablo: Draw. |
| 17:09:37 | jpablo | who many games is the match ? |
| 17:09:39 | Widget | Kramnik was trying for a draw and succeeded game one. |
| 17:09:51 | Widget | jpablo: Eight. |
| 17:10:11 | jpablo | Widget: any url ? |
| 17:10:12 | Phactorial | Widget: Draw? |
| 17:10:19 | Phactorial | Widget: The post on Slashdot very vague |
| 17:10:34 | Phactorial | Widget: It said that "he was not scared", etc... etc... did not mention any of the results |
| 17:11:08 | Widget | jpablo: http://www.brainsinbahrain.com/ is the official website... game 2 just finished. You can hear all the games on http://www.chess.fm/ and watch them live on ICC (http://www.chessclub.com/) |
| 17:11:42 | Phactorial | Brains in Bahrain? |
| 17:11:43 | Widget | You can watch the next game two days from now. It's at noon GMT, I think. |
| 17:11:46 | Widget | Phactorial: Ya. |
| 17:12:47 | jpablo | ok. |
| 17:13:23 | Phactorial | Widget: Bahrain and this ?? |
| 17:13:33 | Phactorial | Widget: Is it as if he is playing in Bahrain? |
| 17:13:34 | Widget | Phactorial: It's taking place in Bahrain. |
| 17:13:51 | Widget | Phactorial: The match is funded by Bahrainian (?) royalty. |
| 17:14:08 | Phactorial | Fear me |
| 17:14:13 | Phactorial | I am just a step away from it ;) |
| 17:14:22 | Widget | I know. :) |
| 17:14:24 | Phactorial | I should take a visit next year |
| 17:16:12 | Chestal | hi Ruuuuuudi |
| 17:16:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | hihi |
| 17:16:24 | Widget | hihihi |
| 17:16:24 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:16:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | ibot ducati |
| 17:16:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | some matches today? |
| 17:16:42 | Chestal | doesn't really look like it |
| 17:16:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm |
| 17:16:49 | Chestal | vbz was here earlier for a match vs. Annihilation |
| 17:16:54 | Chestal | but ANnihilation didn't show up |
| 17:16:59 | [BZ]Ruudi | me and widget could kill you Ches i guess :? |
| 17:17:03 | Chestal | Moles are gathered, but no opponents |
| 17:17:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | let's do it me to moles |
| 17:17:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | anyway i just finished a song :) |
| 17:17:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.valgamaa.ee/Ringtee/Behme/Behme%20-%20Album%20-%2009%20Send%20Me%20Your%20Blood%20Sample.mp3 |
| 17:17:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | really ugly link |
| 17:17:53 | Chestal | I want ogg |
| 17:17:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | but music is kind of idm'is stuff |
| 17:18:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | don't tell me you got no mp3 player :? |
| 17:18:23 | Chestal | of course I canplay it, but I prefer ogg |
| 17:18:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | hehee i prefere music :) |
| 17:18:41 | Chestal | but ogg is better for you :-) |
| 17:18:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | you all too tech :) |
| 17:18:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | well it's not better :) |
| 17:19:05 | Chestal | it is, it is |
| 17:19:14 | [BZ]Ruudi | i can do variable bitrate mp3 with wavelab... |
| 17:19:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | right after mastering |
| 17:19:22 | Chestal | ogg does vr by default |
| 17:19:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | and it sounds reall good |
| 17:19:43 | Chestal | ogg vorbis sounds real good, too, is free and files are smaller |
| 17:19:45 | Phactorial | nods at Chestal |
| 17:19:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | i don't care about defaults i care about comfort and good sound :) |
| 17:19:55 | Phactorial | [BZ]Ruudi: That is ogg |
| 17:20:01 | Phactorial | [BZ]Ruudi: That problem is simply deployment |
| 17:20:11 | Phactorial | [BZ]Ruudi: MP3s > Oggs |
| 17:20:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | untill ogg is not suported by wavelab no point to use it for me |
| 17:20:21 | Phactorial | Number of XXX > Number of XXX that is.. |
| 17:20:24 | Widget | I know ogg is supposed to be better, but encode a wav into an ogg and an mp3 at the same bitrate. The mp3 is noticeably better, even though the ogg is smaller! |
| 17:20:50 | dinah | ogg can be much better than mp3 but when it is file sizes are larger |
| 17:20:51 | Chestal | Widget: most listening tests suggest the opposite |
| 17:20:52 | Widget | The lame encoder is not very good.. but I used a cracked version of the fhg codec. And the mp3 sounds better! |
| 17:21:19 | Chestal | hmm, lame has actually shown to be competetive with fhg for most music, for some it's better, for some it's worse |
| 17:21:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | wavelab is one of the best mp3 converters |
| 17:21:35 | Chestal | but of course your individual hearing might deviate from the psychoacoustical model used |
| 17:22:10 | Chestal | with my computer speakers, I cannot even tell a 64kbit/s ogg vobis file from the original |
| 17:22:13 | doughecka | heya Widget!!! |
| 17:22:14 | doughecka | hihihi |
| 17:22:19 | Widget | doughecka: hihihi |
| 17:22:22 | lupinator | you need really good hardware to hear the difference |
| 17:22:31 | lupinator | and good ears |
| 17:22:33 | Chestal | of course, mp3 really needs 128kbit/s minimum |
| 17:22:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | yes that's true too |
| 17:22:54 | Chestal | because otherwise you have to cut off high frequencies |
| 17:23:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | who cares about low rates on nowdays |
| 17:23:18 | Chestal | good for streaming |
| 17:23:36 | Chestal | and veen with higher rates, the other codecs usually beat mp3 |
| 17:23:41 | Chestal | mp3's technology is outdated |
| 17:23:53 | doughecka | shrugs |
| 17:23:57 | doughecka | is away: brb |
| 17:23:58 | Chestal | and it has license issues |
| 17:24:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | hehee like allways bad sins are most used :P |
| 17:24:01 | Chestal | and a bad file format |
| 17:24:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | Chestal seems to be opensource guy :? |
| 17:24:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | but it's all tech... |
| 17:24:40 | lupinator | is there any ogg player(hardware) out there? |
| 17:24:41 | Chestal | [BZ]Ruudi: well, there is a solution which is free and as good or even better, so why not use it? |
| 17:24:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | couse it's not supportetd! |
| 17:25:02 | Chestal | specialized hardware not yet, AFAIK, but will soon |
| 17:25:09 | Chestal | and of course PDAs canplay it |
| 17:25:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | i have seen tons of people who ask what's ogg mann...i had ogg's only on my site some time ago.. |
| 17:25:25 | lupinator | yup, heard of sharp zaurus |
| 17:26:20 | Chestal | well, soon you'll have to use .wma anyway |
| 17:26:27 | Chestal | when they force DRM upon as |
| 17:26:40 | Chestal | then the standard PC windwos guy won't be able to play anything else |
| 17:26:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i don't care mutch about what i use i care about what comes out |
| 17:27:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | well if most of people still use it...no problem i can use wma as well |
| 17:27:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | macs and linux boxes play it anyway |
| 17:27:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah nevermind |
| 17:28:13 | lupinator | i would like to have an ogg player for my car |
| 17:28:27 | Chestal | yes, that would be nice |
| 17:28:42 | Chestal | I want a nice and cheap solutin, oh well, someday |
| 17:28:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | laptop is your ogg player for car :P |
| 17:29:34 | lupinator | i sure would kill any hard drive in my car |
| 17:29:36 | Chestal | well, then I'll convert your mp3 to ogg :-) |
| 17:29:43 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:30:46 | doughecka | greetins Cell |
| 17:31:50 | doughecka | where are ye now Widget? |
| 17:33:04 | | doughecka? |
| 17:33:04 | doughecka | ibot? |
| 17:33:06 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:36:12 | Patlabor221 | cap you got a list of stuff you need? |
| 17:37:21 | doughecka | Patlabor221: what kind of stuff do you have around your work? or is it all on ebay? |
| 17:37:33 | Patlabor221 | what do you mean |
| 17:37:38 | Patlabor221 | we can order just about anyting |
| 17:37:42 | doughecka | oh |
| 17:37:49 | Patlabor221 | and we are bulding a site now |
| 17:37:55 | Patlabor221 | www.rgpsales.com |
| 17:38:03 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:38:32 | doughecka | Everyone on the planet should have a computer! |
| 17:38:34 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:39:11 | doughecka | is there laptops with DDR ram in it? |
| 17:39:19 | Patlabor221 | no.. tere are some people that should NOT have them |
| 17:39:41 | doughecka | heh, its on that site |
| 17:40:17 | Cell | hi |
| 17:40:29 | Patlabor221 | yes there are noteboks with DDR |
| 17:40:35 | Patlabor221 | hey cell |
| 17:40:44 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:40:48 | Cell | i was thinking about shadow volumes, since carmack uses them now |
| 17:41:46 | Cell | its quite easy to do with precalculated volumes, but dynamic volumes are relly hard to compute efficietly |
| 17:42:38 | doughecka | wow Patlabor221: that gamers computer comes with 1000W Stereo Speakers w/subwoofer? |
| 17:42:42 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:44:47 | Patlabor221 | that's what it says on the box |
| 17:44:59 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:45:32 | Patlabor221 | they are decently large |
| 17:45:50 | doughecka | I would hope so.. how much do they go for? |
| 17:46:04 | Patlabor221 | I don't recall |
| 17:46:08 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:46:13 | Cell | wow my babylon translater has correctly associated 'carmack' to Johm Car. and it shows a photo of him too, he looks like a kid :) |
| 17:46:51 | doughecka | Patlabor221: what do you use for listing things on ebay? |
| 17:47:14 | Patlabor221 | I don't know it some software thing they got |
| 17:47:35 | doughecka | oh |
| 17:47:37 | Patlabor221 | I'll be writing one for posting soon |
| 17:47:42 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:47:48 | Patlabor221 | I think it's called auction tracker |
| 17:48:04 | doughecka | neat, you gonna make it free? or sell it? |
| 17:48:06 | Patlabor221 | we use our own software for managing the auctions when they are posted tho |
| 17:48:10 | Patlabor221 | sell |
| 17:48:18 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:48:20 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:48:22 | Patlabor221 | why would it be free? |
| 17:48:27 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:48:28 | Patlabor221 | how does that pay the bills? |
| 17:48:34 | doughecka | there is no free version out.. |
| 17:48:44 | doughecka | make a "lite" version |
| 17:48:50 | Patlabor221 | there will be a 15 day demo |
| 17:48:57 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:49:17 | Patlabor221 | but the thing is only gonna cost liek $20 |
| 17:49:25 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:53:14 | Patlabor221 | whooot the perfect laptop costs $5300 |
| 17:53:20 | doughecka | ? |
| 17:53:25 | doughecka | what perfect laptop? |
| 17:53:41 | doughecka | geforce 4 ti 4600 video? |
| 17:53:43 | doughecka | :P |
| 17:53:44 | Patlabor221 | P4 2.2 with a gig of DDR, a Quadro 4 go |
| 17:53:48 | Patlabor221 | better |
| 17:53:49 | doughecka | wow |
| 17:53:51 | Patlabor221 | a quadro |
| 17:53:52 | doughecka | it is |
| 17:54:00 | doughecka | only 5300!! |
| 17:54:04 | doughecka | sighs |
| 17:54:08 | Patlabor221 | and 2 drives |
| 17:54:14 | Patlabor221 | fora totla of 100 gigs |
| 17:54:14 | doughecka | 2? |
| 17:54:19 | doughecka | how big is this thing! |
| 17:54:23 | doughecka | 100 |
| 17:54:26 | Patlabor221 | and a CD/DVD combo drive |
| 17:54:34 | Patlabor221 | and a DVD burnner |
| 17:54:44 | Patlabor221 | and a 15 inch screen |
| 17:55:01 | doughecka | all in it at the same time? |
| 17:55:09 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 17:55:09 | doughecka | dvd burner would be cool |
| 17:55:13 | doughecka | um |
| 17:55:16 | doughecka | show me the link |
| 17:55:53 | Patlabor221 | just go to dell's site and connfigure up a M50 |
| 17:55:58 | doughecka | ok |
| 17:56:55 | doughecka | Workstation-class Notebook? |
| 17:57:12 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:57:26 | Patlabor221 | desktop replacements |
| 17:57:32 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:59:43 | doughecka | 8-24-10-24X SWDVD/CDRW Combo Drive is the burner? |
| 17:59:53 | doughecka | sheesh, alot of numbers |
| 18:00:59 | doughecka | the quadro is better than the gf4 ti 4600? |
| 18:02:01 | doughecka | wee, made mine $6,090.00 |
| 18:02:21 | doughecka | can you make your own laptop from parts? |
| 18:03:04 | doughecka | is there any standard laptop cases/mobos? |
| 18:03:12 | doughecka | sounds like it would be cool to do |
| 18:04:04 | Patlabor221 | no not realy |
| 18:04:15 | Patlabor221 | there's no real standards on them |
| 18:04:19 | Patlabor221 | except for drives |
| 18:04:25 | Patlabor221 | and memeory and stuff |
| 18:04:30 | doughecka | hmm whats that laptop that does not have a battery? |
| 18:04:37 | doughecka | its very popular on ebay |
| 18:04:48 | Patlabor221 | the lugables? |
| 18:04:51 | doughecka | its a laptop/ but it has a external battery |
| 18:04:58 | Patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 18:05:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:05:05 | Patlabor221 | we used to make lugable cases |
| 18:05:16 | Patlabor221 | like a small portable ATX case |
| 18:05:23 | Patlabor221 | with a flat pannel on it |
| 18:05:32 | doughecka | hmm, cool |
| 18:05:33 | Patlabor221 | it would take standard parts. |
| 18:05:36 | doughecka | battery? |
| 18:05:40 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 18:05:46 | doughecka | hmm, interesting |
| 18:05:48 | Patlabor221 | it was for demos |
| 18:05:52 | doughecka | keyboard? |
| 18:05:56 | doughecka | and trackpad? |
| 18:05:59 | Patlabor221 | yeah it folded out |
| 18:05:59 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:06:14 | Patlabor221 | but it had a regular video card and stuff in it. |
| 18:06:27 | doughecka | cool, |
| 18:06:39 | Patlabor221 | they were huge tho |
| 18:06:43 | Patlabor221 | and heavy |
| 18:06:46 | doughecka | just rig a battery and you have a super duper huge laptop |
| 18:06:55 | doughecka | ran for 15 min too! |
| 18:06:56 | doughecka | :P |
| 18:07:01 | Patlabor221 | it took regular 110 |
| 18:07:30 | doughecka | yea, get a briefcase with all batterys and a inverter |
| 18:07:31 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:07:34 | Patlabor221 | brb food |
| 18:07:41 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:13:39 | Chestal | hi Ginku, altes Haus |
| 18:13:51 | Ginku | hallöle :-) |
| 18:14:10 | Ginku | läuft ein Spiel ? |
| 18:14:35 | Chestal | nö :-( |
| 18:14:44 | [TFF]Ginku | ohhhhhh |
| 18:14:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi ginku |
| 18:14:58 | [TFF]Ginku | hello Ruudi, are you mad with me ? |
| 18:16:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | mad? |
| 18:16:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | why? |
| 18:16:42 | [TFF]Ginku | You didn't reply to my bzmessage (chess) |
| 18:17:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm |
| 18:17:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | i havent checked those messages wor week or more |
| 18:17:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | i'd like to get those messages into my mailbox |
| 18:17:36 | [TFF]Ginku | oh, I told you to do this :-) |
| 18:17:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | don't remember :) |
| 18:17:59 | [BZ]Ruudi | it's regular me |
| 18:18:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | i'll check |
| 18:18:24 | Widget | Chess? |
| 18:18:33 | doughecka | grins |
| 18:18:42 | sussudio | ohwell. |
| 18:18:46 | doughecka | Widget: you in england? or in NZ? |
| 18:19:03 | [TFF]Ginku | yep, you can play a chess game online on games.yahoo.com |
| 18:19:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah i just red it...but not for now chess would not be good for my ill head right now.. |
| 18:19:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | i got temperature and stuff |
| 18:20:20 | [TFF]Ginku | hehehe.. |
| 18:20:34 | [TFF]Ginku | oh, sorry |
| 18:21:21 | [TFF]Ginku | get well soon |
| 18:21:41 | [TFF]Ginku | Chestal, what about you are tea ? |
| 18:21:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | was worse some days ok...it's goin ok ways soon i guess |
| 18:22:09 | [TFF]Ginku | ..ich tippe schon wieder Mist.... |
| 18:22:31 | sussudio | he's dead, jim |
| 18:22:33 | Patlabor221 | widget how is then UK? |
| 18:22:58 | Widget | doughecka: Ya, High Holborn Hall of Residence. |
| 18:23:07 | sussudio | guess who's dead widget |
| 18:23:09 | Widget | Patlabor221: Very... dry. No rain! |
| 18:23:09 | doughecka | wow, slick name |
| 18:23:22 | Patlabor221 | realy |
| 18:23:25 | Widget | Patlabor221: The driest season in 13 years. |
| 18:23:27 | Widget | Or something. |
| 18:23:31 | doughecka | Widget: wow |
| 18:23:33 | Patlabor221 | sounds like it is here |
| 18:23:40 | Patlabor221 | today is a windy day |
| 18:24:06 | Widget | [TFF]Ginku: Do you want to play chess? |
| 18:24:13 | Phactorial | I do |
| 18:24:19 | Phactorial | Widget: What chess program do you use? |
| 18:24:20 | Widget | OK, anyone. :) |
| 18:24:32 | Widget | Phactorial: Either games.yahoo.com or ICC. |
| 18:24:38 | Phactorial | ICC |
| 18:24:40 | Phactorial | Hrm... |
| 18:24:41 | Phactorial | Hold |
| 18:24:49 | doughecka | ICC? |
| 18:25:01 | Widget | Internet Chess Club. |
| 18:25:07 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:25:16 | Widget | I don't have an account any more, but I can play as a guest. :) |
| 18:25:55 | doughecka | hehe |
| 18:25:57 | Widget | Phactorial: Do you want to play on Yahoo! then? It may be faster. |
| 18:26:27 | Phactorial | I need an account as well |
| 18:26:36 | doughecka | beeps |
| 18:26:36 | Widget | Phactorial: Do you have a Yahoo! account? |
| 18:26:39 | Phactorial | ;) |
| 18:26:41 | Widget | ICC requires software. |
| 18:26:48 | Phactorial | Nope |
| 18:26:50 | Phactorial | Yes |
| 18:26:53 | Phactorial | I downloaded jin |
| 18:26:55 | Phactorial | Hold up |
| 18:26:57 | Phactorial | Let me install it |
| 18:26:58 | Widget | Oh. |
| 18:26:58 | Widget | OK. |
| 18:28:20 | Widget | Phactorial: Hm, you can use xboard if you have Linux. |
| 18:29:15 | Phactorial | blah |
| 18:29:18 | Phactorial | let me get it then |
| 18:29:24 | Phactorial | I need to install the jre |
| 18:29:45 | Widget | Oh. |
| 18:29:50 | Widget | Just get xboard. |
| 18:29:53 | Widget | It doesn't require Java. |
| 18:30:11 | Phactorial | I know |
| 18:30:14 | Phactorial | I'm installing xboard now |
| 18:31:21 | sussudio | i guess i can forget about playing bzflag tonight |
| 18:31:29 | doughecka | why?? |
| 18:31:40 | sussudio | internet overloaded here |
| 18:31:47 | doughecka | hehe |
| 18:31:55 | sussudio | people going to newssites...... |
| 18:32:05 | sussudio | usually happens when someone 'big' dies |
| 18:32:06 | doughecka | Widget: how was jet lag? aint like over a 10 hour diference? |
| 18:32:12 | doughecka | sussudio: who died? |
| 18:32:17 | sussudio | claus |
| 18:32:18 | Widget | doughecka: Very bad. |
| 18:32:21 | Phactorial | Widget: Nasty Athena-based program, nassssty |
| 18:32:23 | doughecka | Widget: :) |
| 18:33:27 | Phactorial | Widget: What is the latest version? the version you have? |
| 18:33:27 | Widget | Phactorial: It's really useful, though, even if it's ugly. |
| 18:33:47 | Widget | I have version 4.2.6. |
| 18:33:51 | Widget | I don't know if it's the latest. |
| 18:33:53 | Phactorial | 5.02 |
| 18:33:59 | Widget | OK, get that. :) |
| 18:34:01 | Phactorial | That's what I installed |
| 18:34:03 | Phactorial | ;) |
| 18:34:04 | Phactorial | Ok |
| 18:34:04 | Widget | Debian is always slow. |
| 18:34:08 | doughecka | haha |
| 18:34:12 | Phactorial | Now, how in the world do you start an ICC game? |
| 18:34:19 | doughecka | apt-get brain |
| 18:34:31 | Widget | Is this Prince Claus German? |
| 18:34:45 | Phactorial | Widget: How? |
| 18:34:46 | Widget | Phactorial: Well, in Debian... it puts something in the menu that allows you to do it. |
| 18:34:50 | Widget | Phactorial: Wait, I'll try and find out. |
| 18:34:54 | Phactorial | Ok |
| 18:35:15 | Widget | /usr/games/xboard -ics -icshost chessclub.com |
| 18:35:19 | sussudio | as much as your whole UK royal family is german |
| 18:36:01 | Phactorial | Just -ics in SuSE |
| 18:36:14 | Phactorial | The default icshost is chessclub |
| 18:36:14 | Phactorial | Ok |
| 18:36:36 | Phactorial | Now what? |
| 18:36:49 | Widget | Type match guest1423 10 0 |
| 18:37:04 | Phactorial | Where? |
| 18:37:10 | Phactorial | In the "input box" menu item? |
| 18:37:27 | Widget | In the Chessclub box. |
| 18:37:35 | Widget | The place where it gave you the login screen. |
| 18:37:43 | Phactorial | lol |
| 18:37:46 | Phactorial | It didn't |
| 18:37:47 | Phactorial | heh |
| 18:37:56 | Widget | Did you use /usr/games/xboard -ics -icshost chessclub.com ? |
| 18:37:59 | Phactorial | wait up |
| 18:38:01 | Phactorial | Let me figure it out |
| 18:38:02 | Phactorial | Yes |
| 18:38:06 | Widget | Hm. |
| 18:38:15 | Widget | Odd. |
| 18:38:16 | sussudio | woodwork creeps and out come the royal hunters |
| 18:39:01 | doughecka | knocks wood |
| 18:39:03 | Phactorial | ok |
| 18:39:14 | Widget | Phactorial: Yay, it works. |
| 18:39:16 | Widget | Phactorial: It's a 10 0 game. |
| 18:39:19 | Widget | Phactorial: Your move. |
| 18:39:40 | sussudio | DUDE |
| 18:39:55 | doughecka | your move |
| 18:39:57 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:40:00 | doughecka | checkmate |
| 18:40:03 | doughecka | wins the match |
| 18:40:05 | doughecka | next? |
| 18:40:07 | sussudio | they just interrupted a special about corpses on National Geographic Channel with Prince Claus Documentary |
| 18:40:13 | Widget | 1. e4!!! |
| 18:40:14 | Widget | 1-0 |
| 18:40:17 | doughecka | sussudio: sux |
| 18:40:21 | Widget | :) |
| 18:40:28 | sussudio | i guess it's only fitting |
| 18:40:41 | Patlabor221 | yeah I hate it when they stop talking about dead bodies. |
| 18:40:51 | Phactorial | Widget: How good are you? |
| 18:40:56 | doughecka | snickers |
| 18:41:01 | Widget | Phactorial: About 1800. |
| 18:41:03 | sussudio | well my point is that they didnt stop |
| 18:41:12 | Phactorial | lol |
| 18:41:14 | Phactorial | Well, I suck |
| 18:41:17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: nope, not yet |
| 18:41:23 | Widget | Phactorial: OK, I'll analyse afterwards. :) |
| 18:42:00 | Phactorial | omg |
| 18:42:01 | Phactorial | I do suck |
| 18:42:08 | Phactorial | This is just an "Experiment", mmk? |
| 18:42:10 | sussudio | why are royalty watchers always such big fat bastards |
| 18:42:11 | doughecka | Phactorial: haha |
| 18:42:24 | Phactorial | Widget: Rematch, I demand it next time ;) |
| 18:42:32 | Widget | Phactorial: Sure. :) |
| 18:43:22 | Phactorial | Widget: Do you know of any "Go" games that support network play? |
| 18:43:37 | Widget | Phactorial: The game, go? |
| 18:43:46 | Widget | Phactorial: I play that too. :) NNGS and IGS are two good go servers. |
| 18:43:50 | Phactorial | Yes |
| 18:43:57 | Widget | Phactorial: cgoban supports the, |
| 18:43:59 | doughecka | yaaaahoooo is good too |
| 18:43:59 | Phactorial | Do you know of any X11 clients for it though? |
| 18:44:07 | Widget | Phactorial: cgoban |
| 18:45:17 | Phactorial | Hrm... |
| 18:45:21 | Phactorial | A lot of distractions |
| 18:46:17 | Widget | Phactorial: Watch out. |
| 18:47:51 | Phactorial | argh |
| 18:47:54 | Phactorial | Dumb move there |
| 18:48:05 | Widget | Fork. |
| 18:48:15 | doughecka | dork |
| 18:48:16 | doughecka | pork |
| 18:48:18 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:48:39 | doughecka | the 1700 is 1.7 ghz? |
| 18:49:27 | captain_proton | hell naw |
| 18:49:32 | Phactorial | woooo |
| 18:49:34 | doughecka | no? |
| 18:49:36 | Phactorial | Widget: Do you play reversi? |
| 18:49:36 | captain_proton | 1700 is like 1.1 |
| 18:49:40 | doughecka | it is? |
| 18:49:46 | doughecka | naw, cant be |
| 18:49:50 | captain_proton | yeah, its amd's marketing strategy |
| 18:49:58 | doughecka | 1600 is 1 ghz? |
| 18:50:06 | captain_proton | intel can crank out higher clock speeds than them, so they inflate their numbers |
| 18:50:14 | doughecka | askes Patlabor221 |
| 18:50:26 | Phactorial | Screw me |
| 18:50:29 | jpablo | 1600 runs at 1394.086mhz. |
| 18:50:36 | doughecka | ooh, thx |
| 18:50:39 | Phactorial | Widget: Reversi/Go/Checkers/ok? :) |
| 18:50:42 | doughecka | glares at captain_proton |
| 18:50:42 | sussudio | 1700 is 1.47 i think |
| 18:50:55 | doughecka | ok |
| 18:50:59 | doughecka | cool |
| 18:52:01 | Phactorial | Widget: Cheap game |
| 18:52:01 | sussudio | 2os[Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 3 (5.0 - 2195)] 2uptime[18h 16m 2s] 2cpu[1-AMD Athlon K7, 799MHz, 512KB] 2mem[Usage: 180/1024MB (17.58%) [||--------]] |
| 18:52:03 | Widget | Phactorial: I play Go a lot, and some reversi... no checkers. :) |
| 18:52:03 | sussudio | :-P |
| 18:52:04 | Phactorial | Widget: You kicked my ass |
| 18:52:18 | Phactorial | Widget: I play go sometimes, reversi a lot and checkers sometimes |
| 18:52:19 | Widget | Phactorial: Don't hang pieces. :) |
| 18:52:24 | Phactorial | Widget: I NEVER play chess |
| 18:52:31 | Widget | Ah. :) |
| 18:52:33 | captain_proton | Phactorial plays go!? |
| 18:52:45 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I learned it after that day you recommended it to me |
| 18:52:47 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Fear it ;) |
| 18:52:49 | Phactorial | Ok |
| 18:52:51 | captain_proton | aha |
| 18:52:52 | Phactorial | I need to go code now |
| 18:52:56 | Cell_simple_inse | i love playing chess online, i beat everyone/thing |
| 18:52:59 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I need to play you |
| 18:53:01 | doughecka | captain_proton: ? |
| 18:53:07 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:53:10 | Phactorial | Widget: Play me reversi then ;) or checkers? Some of my more common grounds ;) |
| 18:53:25 | Widget | Phactorial: If you play captain_proton, tell me first. I want to watch. |
| 18:53:34 | Phactorial | Widget: Is he that good? |
| 18:53:38 | Widget | 'Tis dinnertime... later. |
| 18:53:42 | captain_proton | haha i suck right now |
| 18:53:42 | Phactorial | Same |
| 18:53:45 | captain_proton | i haven't played in ages |
| 18:53:54 | Phactorial | captain_proton: We'll play sometime ;) |
| 18:53:58 | Phactorial | I need to leave now |
| 18:53:59 | Phactorial | Peace |
| 18:54:10 | doughecka | whats a D-Bracket™ header??? |
| 18:54:23 | sussudio | Bracca? |
| 18:54:42 | Patlabor221 | in regards to what? |
| 18:54:49 | doughecka | ooh, got a little pretty ™ |
| 18:55:07 | doughecka | my mobo has 1 D-Bracket™ header |
| 18:55:12 | doughecka | what is it? |
| 18:55:16 | | BraccaBraccaBraccaBraccaBraccaBraccaBraccaBracca |
| 18:55:16 | sussudio | ibot bracca |
| 18:55:22 | Patlabor221 | what mobo? |
| 18:55:36 | doughecka | that one I got, umm... |
| 18:55:45 | doughecka | MSI K7T266Pro2-A |
| 18:56:16 | sussudio | D-Bracket™ is een nieuwe uitvinding, gebaseerd op de D-LED™ feature. Het helpt de gebruiker hardware problemen vanaf de buitenkant van de computer waar te nemen, wat het ongemak van het openen van de computerkast minimaliseert. De D-Bracket™ heeft een combinatie van 4 LED signaallichtjes, die rood of groen kunnen zijn, die leiden tot 16 verschillende codes waarmee problemen tijden het opstarten snel geconstateerd kunnen worden. De nieuwe D-Bracket™ |
| 18:56:29 | doughecka | ibot x de en D-Bracket™ is een nieuwe uitvinding, gebaseerd op de D-LED™ feature. Het helpt de gebruiker hardware problemen vanaf de buitenkant van de computer waar te nemen, wat het ongemak van het openen van de computerkast minimaliseert. De D-Bracket™ heeft een combinatie van 4 LED signaallichtjes, die rood of groen kunnen zijn, die leiden tot 16 verschillende codes waarmee problemen tijden het opstarten snel geconstateerd kunnen worde |
| 18:56:33 | | doughecka: D-Bracket |
| 18:56:36 | captain_proton | haha Patlabor221 the guy with the drives has 4 9-wide redundant power supplies he wants to gib me |
| 18:56:37 | doughecka | $#%#$%# |
| 18:56:41 | sussudio | it's not german dorkwad |
| 18:56:50 | sussudio | it's a led diagnostic header |
| 18:56:57 | doughecka | what is it then? |
| 18:56:59 | doughecka | oh |
| 18:57:00 | Patlabor221 | dude he want's to gib you, run run fast |
| 18:57:03 | doughecka | cool |
| 18:57:05 | Patlabor221 | or get the rocket lanucher |
| 18:57:07 | captain_proton | naw he's cool |
| 18:57:11 | doughecka | Patlabor221: haha, quickly |
| 18:57:15 | sussudio | it flashes at you when it's gonna explode |
| 18:57:33 | doughecka | captain_proton: insta-gib? |
| 18:57:38 | captain_proton | insta-gib |
| 18:57:48 | doughecka | k |
| 18:58:17 | Patlabor221 | "HEAD SHOT" |
| 18:58:19 | sussudio | as D-Bracket ist eine USB-Klammer mit vier integrierten Diagnose-LED´s, die mit einer grafischen Signal-Anzeige um die Benutzer dabei unterstützen, ihr System zu verstehen. Die LED´s bieten bis zu 16 Signal-Kombinationen zur Anzeige von System-Fehlern. Die 4 Leuchtdioden können alle Probleme am System wie erwa VGA-, TAM. oder andere Fehler signalisieren. Diese spezielle Funktion ost besonders für Benutzer hilfreich, die hir System übertakten. Diese |
| 18:58:25 | doughecka | translate... |
| 18:58:40 | doughecka | captain_proton: start camping... |
| 18:58:43 | sussudio | blame google |
| 18:58:50 | Patlabor221 | is it that thing for the front pannel stuff? |
| 18:58:53 | doughecka | humph |
| 18:59:08 | doughecka | no, i I think it has LEDs on the back of the case |
| 18:59:14 | doughecka | like a ethernet light thngy |
| 18:59:26 | doughecka | dunno, let me read up on it |
| 18:59:45 | sussudio | D-Bracket is a new innovation based on the D-LED feature. It helps the user diagnose computer hardware problems from outside of the computer chassis, eliminating the trouble of having to open up the chassis every time. The D-Bracket also has a combination of 4 LED light signals that are either green or red, representing 16 different troubleshooting functions during boot up. |
| 19:00:14 | Patlabor221 | interesting |
| 19:00:22 | doughecka | cool |
| 19:00:37 | Patlabor221 | an advanced verison of the "beep" type error code |
| 19:02:06 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:02:08 | doughecka | brb |
| 19:02:54 | sussudio1 | godverdegodver |
| 19:03:16 | sussudio | D-Bracket is a new innovation based on the D-LED feature. It helps the user diagnose computer hardware problems from outside of the computer chassis, eliminating the trouble of having to open up the chassis every time. The D-Bracket also has a combination of 4 LED light signals that are either green or red, representing 16 different troubleshooting functions during boot up. |
| 19:04:26 | Cell_simple_inse | wow, i can even display stl files with my tooth editor, where 3d studio max tells me it is a wrong stl format, that speaks for my STL loading function and the use of Regular expressions to parse the data safely |
| 19:05:17 | Cell_simple_inse | and it looks so fantastic |
| 19:07:23 | Patlabor221 | you sure it's a proper STL? and that your reader just isn't more leinet |
| 19:07:52 | Cell_simple_inse | 3d max cant load it, i can |
| 19:07:53 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:08:02 | Cell_simple_inse | and i can vizualize it of coz |
| 19:08:43 | Patlabor221 | still |
| 19:08:51 | Patlabor221 | that dosn't say who is the correct reader |
| 19:09:18 | Patlabor221 | perhaps it has degenerate triangles |
| 19:09:25 | Patlabor221 | and that's what max does not like |
| 19:10:24 | doughecka | ah, here we go |
| 19:10:27 | doughecka | This is the embedded D-LED on the motherboard. A nifty device that helps you troubleshoot and diagnose problems during boot-up. It also has a series of lights to show you what's going on during the boot process. I'm not sure how accurate it is however. I left the memory slots open and upon boot-up I received the indication that there was no CPU installed. Still, it did let me know something was amiss. There is also a 2port USB bracket tha |
| 19:12:27 | sussudio | D-Sniffer: let's you know through D-LED if it's time to shower. will also detect if the user is dead. |
| 19:12:38 | doughecka | snickers |
| 19:13:11 | Cell_simple_inse | look, this correct file could not be read by 3ds: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/stlhead.jpg |
| 19:13:32 | Cell_simple_inse | double sided material, cool :http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/stlhead1.jpg |
| 19:13:34 | captain_proton | anybody know where to download QNX/ |
| 19:13:34 | captain_proton | ? |
| 19:14:00 | sussudio | http://www.google.nl/search?q=download+qnx&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search |
| 19:14:05 | sussudio | bitchslaps captain_proton with google |
| 19:14:15 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:14:25 | Patlabor221 | cell you sure there are not any degenerates? |
| 19:14:43 | captain_proton | sussudio: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/05/1348200&mode=thread&tid=95 <--- ;) |
| 19:14:48 | Cell_simple_inse | yes, because my mehs structure cant hold degenerates |
| 19:14:55 | Cell_simple_inse | an max can |
| 19:15:02 | doughecka | captain_proton: nice one |
| 19:15:04 | Cell_simple_inse | i looked at max sdk |
| 19:15:04 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:15:07 | sussudio | hm? |
| 19:15:23 | sussudio | so? |
| 19:15:31 | sussudio | it's the first friggin search result |
| 19:15:53 | sussudio | frelll |
| 19:15:59 | sussudio | felgercarb |
| 19:16:00 | doughecka | sussudio: be soft on him, hes lazy |
| 19:16:05 | doughecka | snickers |
| 19:16:17 | Widget | google.nl doesn't have Google News yet. :) |
| 19:16:28 | doughecka | Widget: hmm |
| 19:16:42 | sussudio | does too |
| 19:16:51 | doughecka | Widget: maybe it dont want to translate to that |
| 19:18:01 | Widget | sussudio: Under www.google.nl, it only has "Het Internet", "Afbeeldingen", "Discussiegroepen" and "Gids". No "Nieuws". |
| 19:18:02 | sussudio | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/06/1935214&mode=flat&tid=133 |
| 19:18:07 | sussudio | now's your chance to whore bzflag |
| 19:18:23 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:19:02 | sussudio | you dont think i'm using google in dutch, right? |
| 19:19:13 | sussudio | that's like using friggin dutch windows 95 |
| 19:19:19 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:19:49 | Widget | Ah.... &hl=en |
| 19:19:52 | sussudio | google.nl/en |
| 19:20:07 | doughecka | hmhm |
| 19:20:57 | Widget | http://www.google.co.uk/intl/nl/ |
| 19:21:10 | doughecka | ick |
| 19:21:14 | doughecka | who can read that stuff |
| 19:21:23 | doughecka | like talking in german backwards |
| 19:21:33 | Widget | Some weird people who go around in trailers. |
| 19:21:35 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: still alive? |
| 19:21:41 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:21:54 | Cell_simple_inse | hm the gforce4 costs 180 Euro, very expensiv |
| 19:22:11 | doughecka | Cell_simple_inse: ebay |
| 19:22:12 | SpacemanSpiff | Hey people |
| 19:22:17 | Patlabor221 | what one? |
| 19:22:28 | doughecka | heys SpacemanSpiffs hows yous goings? |
| 19:22:32 | Patlabor221 | doug egay is not allways best for international shiping |
| 19:22:35 | Cell_simple_inse | no mx but cheap, afriend has it |
| 19:22:35 | Widget | doughecka: "That's inconceivable!!!" ? :) |
| 19:22:40 | doughecka | Patlabor221: yea |
| 19:22:43 | doughecka | Widget: :P |
| 19:22:45 | Patlabor221 | but what one |
| 19:22:49 | captain_proton | and doughecka got rid of the quality quotation |
| 19:22:50 | Widget | doughecka: "I do not think you know what that means." |
| 19:22:52 | Cell_simple_inse | well i forgot |
| 19:22:52 | Patlabor221 | TI4200? |
| 19:22:56 | SpacemanSpiff | I am pretty good, thanks.. how about you doughecka? |
| 19:23:01 | Cell_simple_inse | i cant remember |
| 19:23:13 | doughecka | Widget: haha, been a while since I seen that movie |
| 19:23:18 | Patlabor221 | what's that come out to in US? |
| 19:23:23 | Cell_simple_inse | what is the chepest gforce4? |
| 19:23:24 | Widget | doughecka: You mean you didn't read the book!? |
| 19:23:30 | Widget | Patlabor221: Probably the same thing. |
| 19:23:32 | Patlabor221 | Ti4200 |
| 19:23:36 | doughecka | Widget: nah, my sisters got that movie, not the book |
| 19:23:46 | Cell_simple_inse | but it has pixel shaders or? |
| 19:23:51 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:23:52 | SpacemanSpiff | I am creating a new world at the moment... a canyon with towers around it and a bridge into it and stuff ;-) |
| 19:23:55 | Patlabor221 | all the Ti's do |
| 19:23:59 | Patlabor221 | it's just the MXs |
| 19:24:05 | Widget | "Inconceivable!!" -- Vizzini "You keep using that word -- I do not think it means what you think it means." -- Inigo |
| 19:24:07 | Cell_simple_inse | k |
| 19:24:14 | doughecka | LOL |
| 19:24:18 | Cell_simple_inse | and is 180$ a good price for it |
| 19:24:32 | Patlabor221 | I show 64 meg Ti4200's for about $120 US |
| 19:24:33 | Widget | doughecka: "Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something." |
| 19:24:41 | Cell_simple_inse | cool |
| 19:25:08 | Patlabor221 | 128 megs are about 140 |
| 19:25:14 | Cell_simple_inse | ddr |
| 19:25:20 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:25:31 | Patlabor221 | all the TI's are DDR |
| 19:25:33 | Cell_simple_inse | ah,k |
| 19:25:34 | doughecka | Widget: :) |
| 19:25:44 | Patlabor221 | at least the 4600 is coming down |
| 19:25:50 | doughecka | Widget: I need the divx of that... I have the movie, I can rip it myslef |
| 19:25:56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: answer me! |
| 19:25:59 | Cell_simple_inse | and i can use the gl language from nvidia? |
| 19:26:04 | Patlabor221 | sorry cap |
| 19:26:05 | Cell_simple_inse | or lg |
| 19:26:09 | Patlabor221 | what was the quest |
| 19:26:13 | Patlabor221 | too much text |
| 19:26:16 | captain_proton | i pmed you |
| 19:26:20 | Patlabor221 | ohh |
| 19:26:22 | Patlabor221 | opps |
| 19:26:47 | Widget | 1. e4 c5! |
| 19:27:24 | Cell_simple_inse | i wonder if geforce4 gets cheaper when geforce5 is out, and when does it come, i found nothing on nvidia site |
| 19:27:43 | sussudio | 2mbm5info[System: 26°C, 1 CPU, CPU(1): 32°C, Fan(1): 2376RPM, Fan(2): 7670RPM, Fan(3): 2360RPM] |
| 19:27:48 | sussudio | hmm |
| 19:27:57 | Patlabor221 | they have not anounced there next card |
| 19:28:10 | Patlabor221 | proalby arond xmas |
| 19:28:16 | doughecka | ooh |
| 19:28:18 | doughecka | gf5? |
| 19:28:20 | Widget | doughecka: Send it to me when you finish. |
| 19:28:22 | doughecka | whats it gonna have on it? |
| 19:28:34 | doughecka | Widget: right-o, buy me a video input thingy |
| 19:28:37 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:28:43 | doughecka | its not DVD, its VHS |
| 19:29:02 | Widget | Oh. |
| 19:29:17 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:29:20 | Widget | doughecka: http://www.ex.ac.uk/~dregis/DR/Openings/sicilian_ToC.html |
| 19:29:36 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:30:14 | doughecka | I see |
| 19:30:37 | Cell_simple_inse | i downloaded the Cg tutorials for VC.net fron nvidia, so now i really need a pixel shader, but it of coz a q of money |
| 19:30:42 | Patlabor221 | I think they may change the name for the next card |
| 19:31:07 | doughecka | Patlabor221: but what will ti have on it? |
| 19:31:10 | doughecka | it* |
| 19:31:31 | Cell_simple_inse | it++ |
| 19:31:39 | Patlabor221 | what do you mean |
| 19:31:42 | | it has karma of -10 |
| 19:31:42 | doughecka | ibot karma it |
| 19:31:45 | doughecka | heh |
| 19:31:52 | Patlabor221 | the TI is the regular gard |
| 19:31:55 | Patlabor221 | card |
| 19:31:56 | doughecka | what will the new nvidia card have on it... |
| 19:31:57 | Patlabor221 | as in not MX |
| 19:32:06 | Patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 19:32:13 | doughecka | noo, ti was it, spelling mistake |
| 19:32:16 | Patlabor221 | they have been keeping it very secret |
| 19:32:21 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:32:55 | Patlabor221 | proalby something like hardware sub division surfaces |
| 19:32:59 | Patlabor221 | that's what the rumors are |
| 19:33:04 | doughecka | um, cool |
| 19:33:10 | Cell_simple_inse | nurbs would be cool |
| 19:33:11 | doughecka | (what ever that is) |
| 19:33:19 | Patlabor221 | cool |
| 19:33:21 | sussudio | yeah.... we're all waiting in anticipation for AGP 20X with 5000fps in bzf :-P |
| 19:33:23 | Patlabor221 | but not realy usefull |
| 19:34:36 | Cell_simple_inse | why, i can model characters with a few control points, surfaces, saves lot of ram and make curved surfaces look more natural |
| 19:35:04 | Cell_simple_inse | so it could be transfared faster over the net too |
| 19:35:35 | Cell_simple_inse | just thinking on that flash goas 3d |
| 19:35:55 | Cell_simple_inse | macromedia flash |
| 19:35:55 | Patlabor221 | that can be done with other surf types just as well |
| 19:36:03 | Patlabor221 | nurbs isn't that great |
| 19:36:26 | Patlabor221 | I think they will do just regular bspline surfs first |
| 19:36:45 | Patlabor221 | the matrox does a form of sub division surfs |
| 19:37:00 | Patlabor221 | so that's prolably what nvidia will hit next |
| 19:37:23 | Patlabor221 | the bigest thing surfs gives you is card based LOD |
| 19:37:32 | Cell_simple_inse | yes |
| 19:38:05 | Cell_simple_inse | so bad cards can just interpolate the control points |
| 19:38:11 | Cell_simple_inse | lineary |
| 19:38:38 | Patlabor221 | well the driver would have to teselate the surf if the card didn't suport it |
| 19:39:03 | Patlabor221 | I would like to see fast 3d textures |
| 19:39:07 | Patlabor221 | that would be keen |
| 19:39:17 | Cell_simple_inse | u mean blits |
| 19:39:27 | Patlabor221 | no I mean hardware 3d textures |
| 19:39:42 | Cell_simple_inse | oh 3d overead that |
| 19:39:45 | Patlabor221 | texutres with u v and W |
| 19:40:01 | Patlabor221 | that and more work with metrix weighting |
| 19:40:12 | Cell_simple_inse | but that would be procedural textures, mostly |
| 19:40:33 | Patlabor221 | that's just one way to make them |
| 19:40:41 | Patlabor221 | you don't have to generate them in code |
| 19:40:45 | Patlabor221 | they could be loaded in |
| 19:41:06 | Patlabor221 | procedural textures are just the easyet way to take them right now |
| 19:41:29 | Patlabor221 | real 3d textures would allow things like voumetric fog to be done easaly |
| 19:41:29 | Cell_simple_inse | but otherwise they would consume lot of mem |
| 19:41:34 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:41:42 | Patlabor221 | unless they are compressed |
| 19:41:49 | Patlabor221 | and a card can do that |
| 19:41:54 | Cell_simple_inse | yes |
| 19:42:06 | Patlabor221 | right now a lot of cards compress there 2d textures |
| 19:42:16 | Cell_simple_inse | buit then u could voxel almost the whole world |
| 19:42:30 | Patlabor221 | you could |
| 19:42:39 | Patlabor221 | may not be the best represnetaion tho |
| 19:42:56 | Patlabor221 | would be prefect for things like clouds |
| 19:43:41 | Cell_simple_inse | but i thing i would loose compared to a world with polygons when the same ammount of ressources is used |
| 19:44:02 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 19:45:09 | Cell_simple_inse | i think that a voxel world consumes a lot of mem and a much more detailed world could be build oit o polygons with the same amount of ressources/mem |
| 19:46:00 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:46:14 | Patlabor221 | voxels are situational |
| 19:46:35 | Patlabor221 | but you can apply a 3d texture to a polygonal mesh :) |
| 19:46:45 | Cell_simple_inse | but of course 3d maps could be use for effects that are hardly done otherwise |
| 19:47:07 | Cell_simple_inse | yes, i know, would be cool in CSG |
| 19:47:16 | Patlabor221 | techincaly gl supports 4d textures |
| 19:47:24 | Cell_simple_inse | if u make a big hole into a rock |
| 19:47:35 | Cell_simple_inse | or wall |
| 19:47:52 | Cell_simple_inse | that has a 3d texture, would look more natural |
| 19:47:54 | doughecka | 4d textures? |
| 19:47:58 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 19:48:03 | doughecka | like time included? |
| 19:48:06 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:48:16 | Patlabor221 | how ever you wanted to use it |
| 19:48:24 | doughecka | humph |
| 19:48:35 | Patlabor221 | right now we just use 2d textures like pictures because its' convinent |
| 19:48:37 | Cell_simple_inse | yes but mem grows with every dimension exponentially |
| 19:48:43 | Patlabor221 | that it does |
| 19:48:45 | doughecka | ok |
| 19:48:52 | Patlabor221 | you could have 4d gemoemtry too |
| 19:49:03 | Patlabor221 | glVertex4f() |
| 19:49:07 | doughecka | ? |
| 19:49:40 | Patlabor221 | it's supports storage and transformation of 4d data |
| 19:49:47 | Patlabor221 | I have no clue how you would use it for geo |
| 19:49:49 | Cell_simple_inse | geforse 4 renders triangles with vertices that have w=0 'endlessly' ( till buffer ends) |
| 19:50:03 | Cell_simple_inse | as if there was no border |
| 19:51:00 | Cell_simple_inse | its used in drawing proper dynamic volumetric shadows |
| 19:51:06 | Cell_simple_inse | i.e |
| 19:58:19 | Cell_simple_inse | look here how nvidia rasterises triangles with w=0 vertices into frame buffer: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/nvidiaw0.jpg |
| 20:05:59 | Cell_simple_inse | oh, its damn late already |
| 20:06:10 | Cell_simple_inse | need deep sleep now, bye |
| 20:09:57 | sussudio | wow people make really really shit flash animations |
| 20:10:20 | doughecka | oh? |
| 20:10:23 | sussudio | http://www.rathergood.com/punk_kittens/ |
| 20:10:57 | doughecka | HAHAHAHA |
| 20:12:08 | doughecka | very funny |
| 20:12:31 | sussudio | rather crap though |
| 20:12:43 | doughecka | snickers |
| 20:14:13 | sussudio | http://www.pox.co.uk/images/pygmyshrew.swf |
| 20:14:16 | sussudio | this one is better |
| 20:15:07 | doughecka | ah, a button |
| 20:15:30 | sussudio | button? |
| 20:16:03 | doughecka | the place you move your mouse over and click? |
| 20:16:12 | sussudio | :-\ |
| 20:17:10 | sussudio | http://hellsgate.online.ee/~mait/fahrschule.swf |
| 20:17:37 | doughecka | ohhh, this is FUNNY!!! |
| 20:17:55 | sussudio | pygmy shrew or fahrschule? |
| 20:18:09 | doughecka | fahrshule |
| 20:18:10 | sussudio | wishing bird is good too |
| 20:18:17 | doughecka | lol |
| 20:20:40 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 20:20:49 | doughecka | thats IS too funny |
| 20:20:56 | sussudio | myeah |
| 20:22:02 | doughecka | is away: BUSY!!! |
| 20:29:15 | doughecka | is away: away.... duh.... |
| 20:31:32 | | OK, sussudio. |
| 20:31:32 | sussudio | ibot fahrschule is <reply> http://hellsgate.online.ee/~mait/fahrschule.swf |
| 20:33:19 | | BUNNIES! GET THEM OFF!!!!!!! THEY'RE EVIL WITH THEIR DAMN TWITCHY NOSES AND LONG EARS!!!!!! MOMMY!!!!!! |
| 20:33:19 | sussudio | ibot bunnies |
| 20:51:03 | lurgyman | an optimist sees the glass as half full, |
| 20:51:10 | lurgyman | a pessimist sees the glass as half empty |
| 20:51:28 | lurgyman | and the engineer sees it as twice as large as it needs to be |
| 20:51:39 | sussudio | a psycho pees in the glass and shatters it on your head |
| 20:51:58 | lurgyman | you know what else shatters on my head? |
| 20:52:00 | lurgyman | icicles |
| 20:52:04 | sussudio | oranges? |
| 20:52:17 | lurgyman | frozen oranges, maybe |
| 20:52:25 | lurgyman | but not beetroot |
| 20:52:50 | sussudio | garlic |
| 20:53:06 | lurgyman | tasty |
| 20:53:37 | lurgyman | frozen cheese is gross |
| 20:55:18 | sussudio | well guess frozen cheese is not in your triangle of happiness |
| 20:55:59 | lurgyman | but it is in the octohedron of dispair |
| 21:19:08 | sussudio | Croissants margarine, roomboter, kaas, kaas/ui of ham/kaas; Nu met 25% korting! |
| 21:19:12 | sussudio | muha |
| 21:55:04 | SpacemanSpiff | Have any of you seen jzaun today? |
| 21:56:24 | Patlabor221 | alive? |
| 21:56:36 | bzgirl | :) |
| 21:56:46 | SpacemanSpiff | His server is down |
| 21:56:55 | bzgirl | stuffs the body under couch |
| 21:56:56 | SpacemanSpiff | Well, I have to go |
| 21:57:00 | SpacemanSpiff | C-ya guys |
| 21:57:12 | Patlabor221 | make sure to drain the bathtub too |
| 23:29:46 | doughecka | snickers and glances at BZFlag |
| 23:29:49 | doughecka | But no way I'd get on a Linux based shuttle. |
| 23:29:49 | doughecka | |
| 23:29:49 | doughecka | DIY Astronaut: "Houston, I'm running out of oxygen! Having trouble breathing. Why can't I get the air scrubbers to help make the air more breathable?" |
| 23:29:49 | doughecka | Houston: "Patches are welcome." |
| 23:41:38 | doughecka | BEEPS |
| 23:41:41 | doughecka | greetings |
| 23:41:46 | | Pain is starting BZFlag without 3D acceleration. |
| 23:41:46 | sussudio | ibot pain |
| 23:41:57 | doughecka | is away: getting another sandwhich |
| 23:42:03 | doughecka | hah |
| 23:42:22 | sussudio | snort. |
| 23:48:23 | doughecka | snorts |
| 23:48:38 | doughecka | But no way I'd get on a Linux based shuttle.... |
| 23:48:39 | doughecka | DIY Astronaut: "Houston, I'm running out of oxygen! Having trouble breathing. Why can't I get the air scrubbers to help make the air more breathable?" |
| 23:48:39 | doughecka | Houston: "Patches are welcome." |
