| 00:00:05 | sussudio | ibot x de en wo ist der bahnhof |
| 00:00:17 | | sussudio: where is the station |
| 00:01:20 | sussudio | ibot x en de SUCKY SUCKY SOLDIER BOY! FIVE DOLLAH! |
| 00:01:31 | | sussudio: SUCKY SUCKY SOLDAT-JUNGE! FÃœNF DOLLAH! |
| 00:01:42 | sussudio | facoenf? |
| 00:01:55 | MrApathyCream | bugger all, i dunno |
| 00:02:48 | sussudio | hm spider |
| 00:03:04 | sussudio | vacuumcleanah |
| 00:03:07 | sussudio | no more spider |
| 00:25:23 | bzdoug | grins and nods towards his fans as he returns |
| 00:25:58 | bzdoug | greetings Patlabor221! |
| 00:26:16 | Patlabor221 | hail and well met |
| 00:26:48 | bzdoug | lol |
| 00:27:29 | bzdoug | ah |
| 00:27:33 | bzdoug | your at home? |
| 00:27:37 | Patlabor221 | forsooth and all that crap |
| 00:27:39 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 00:27:44 | bzdoug | work #2? |
| 00:27:56 | Patlabor221 | aye |
| 00:28:43 | bzdoug | I know this is a dumb question... but about that drive... did it ever ship? |
| 00:28:56 | Patlabor221 | I think it shall go tomrow |
| 00:28:58 | Patlabor221 | it's packed |
| 00:29:03 | bzdoug | oooh |
| 00:29:28 | Patlabor221 | they ship the personal stuff when they arn't busy with the work stuff |
| 00:29:30 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:29:32 | bzdoug | ah |
| 00:30:05 | bzdoug | I STILL have not gotten an email saying where to send my money for that mobo |
| 00:30:20 | Patlabor221 | on ebay? |
| 00:30:24 | bzdoug | on |
| 00:30:25 | bzdoug | no |
| 00:30:32 | bzdoug | partspc.com |
| 00:31:03 | bzdoug | one of those generic parts sellers (i.e. same stupid form as 99% of the other places) |
| 00:31:38 | Patlabor221 | they didn't have online payment? |
| 00:31:49 | bzdoug | yea, but I dont have an online payment |
| 00:32:36 | bzdoug | too bad they dont accept paypal |
| 00:33:31 | Patlabor221 | most places don't like paypall due to the fact that they charge a % on the transaction |
| 00:33:36 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 00:33:38 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:33:39 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:33:54 | Patlabor221 | if the you use paypall that comes from a CRedit card |
| 00:33:58 | bzdoug | oh |
| 00:33:59 | Patlabor221 | they change like 2.9% |
| 00:34:09 | bzdoug | well, I have money in my palpal account |
| 00:34:16 | Patlabor221 | still |
| 00:34:22 | Patlabor221 | you can't restrict it easaly |
| 00:34:26 | bzdoug | no credit card involved |
| 00:34:28 | bzdoug | oh |
| 00:34:30 | bzdoug | :( |
| 00:34:33 | bzdoug | maybe I could email |
| 00:34:35 | bzdoug | them |
| 00:34:45 | bzdoug | but I STILL have not gotten a reply back from them |
| 00:34:49 | Patlabor221 | no card? how does your famialy live? |
| 00:34:57 | bzdoug | they do have a card |
| 00:35:06 | bzdoug | but NO TOUCHY... :P |
| 00:35:27 | bzdoug | humph |
| 00:35:51 | bzdoug | maybe I could email them and see if they could accept plain old paypal |
| 00:37:12 | Patlabor221 | will be odd if they do |
| 00:37:28 | bzdoug | emailed them |
| 00:37:40 | bzdoug | do you think they are at work still? |
| 00:37:44 | bzdoug | its 9 here... |
| 00:37:49 | bzdoug | what time is it there? |
| 00:37:51 | Patlabor221 | where are they? |
| 00:38:03 | bzdoug | calif I bet, someplace out west |
| 00:38:05 | bzdoug | coast |
| 00:40:13 | Patlabor221 | it's 6:46:36 |
| 00:40:18 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:40:47 | Patlabor221 | acording to the atomic clock |
| 00:40:52 | bzdoug | ha |
| 00:41:36 | Patlabor221 | well minus speed of light to colorado |
| 00:41:55 | bzdoug | heh |
| 00:42:07 | bzdoug | gotta take that into consideration |
| 00:42:43 | Patlabor221 | that and boors-steinfeld compensation |
| 00:42:55 | bzdoug | heh |
| 00:43:07 | Patlabor221 | and the Heisenburg strangeness |
| 00:43:31 | bzdoug | "strangness" |
| 00:43:43 | bzdoug | 37 Operating Systems, 1 PC |
| 00:43:48 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 00:43:53 | bzdoug | hahaha |
| 00:43:54 | bzdoug | cpaluc writes "Bored? Surplus spare time and PC hardware? Read on. OSNews has links to a couple of articles (1,2) about a guy who installed 37 operating systems on one PC. There's something to do with your spare time and hardware." |
| 00:44:09 | Patlabor221 | Heisenburg's uncertany principle. |
| 00:44:09 | bzdoug | please... |
| 00:44:28 | sussudio | yeah fuck that. it's like 23 versions of windows and dos |
| 00:44:29 | Patlabor221 | fun with system commander |
| 00:44:33 | bzdoug | what does he have... windows 3.1 and dos? and linux.. and BSD... and windows.... |
| 00:44:40 | bzdoug | what else? |
| 00:44:49 | bzdoug | redhat/mandrake/bleh bleh bleh? |
| 00:44:51 | bzdoug | pff |
| 00:44:58 | bzdoug | ah |
| 00:45:00 | bzdoug | here we go |
| 00:45:01 | bzdoug | Violent Games Good for Kids |
| 00:45:10 | bzdoug | from the contrary-wisdom dept. |
| 00:45:11 | bzdoug | fjordboy writes "Scholars from MIT, the University of California in LA, and the University of London have worked together to oppose laws restricting children from playing violent video games. The battle is currently taking place in the US Court of Appeals and the case seems to hold a decent amount of merit. From Vnunet:"Experts on childhood and adolescence have long recognised the importance of violent fantasy play in overcoming anxieties, proce |
| 00:45:39 | sussudio | oh people talking stupid about napster again |
| 00:45:45 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 00:45:50 | sussudio | fuck off britney |
| 00:45:51 | bzdoug | I thought napster is dead! |
| 00:45:52 | Patlabor221 | isn't that dead? |
| 00:45:59 | sussudio | nobody even wants to download your fucking crap |
| 00:46:33 | sussudio | also, "Eve" has to be he ugliest bitch ever |
| 00:46:45 | sussudio | not even make-up and lighting can hide that |
| 00:47:41 | sussudio | come to think of it. i havent downloaded an mp3 in ages. |
| 00:47:50 | sussudio | wonder why that is..... |
| 00:47:53 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:47:55 | bzdoug | ogg? |
| 00:47:58 | sussudio | npo |
| 00:48:11 | Patlabor221 | pr0n takes up the bandwith? |
| 00:48:14 | sussudio | it probably cause there hasnt been any music worth downloading or buying since about 1996 |
| 00:48:58 | Patlabor221 | no I think it's the pr0n |
| 00:49:23 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:49:24 | sussudio | alan greenspan talks to the old bag (queenie of england) |
| 00:49:25 | sussudio | why? |
| 00:49:41 | bzdoug | wonders if theres a free service that will send me all the comics |
| 00:49:58 | Patlabor221 | every comic on the world? |
| 00:50:02 | Patlabor221 | proably not man |
| 00:50:10 | SpacemanSpiff | Hey jzaun |
| 00:50:17 | bzdoug | not EVERY comic |
| 00:50:20 | SpacemanSpiff | There's a TK on your server |
| 00:50:24 | bzdoug | but like dilbert and stuff |
| 00:50:25 | SpacemanSpiff | Can you please come boot him? |
| 00:50:26 | jzaun | a TK? |
| 00:50:30 | SpacemanSpiff | Team killer |
| 00:50:36 | jzaun | callsign? |
| 00:50:39 | sussudio | saddam? |
| 00:50:43 | SpacemanSpiff | Nevermind |
| 00:50:46 | SpacemanSpiff | He left |
| 00:50:48 | SpacemanSpiff | LOL |
| 00:50:49 | Patlabor221 | TeamKIller001? |
| 00:50:54 | bzdoug | LL |
| 00:50:55 | SpacemanSpiff | He was called "Me" |
| 00:51:02 | sussudio | that's inventive |
| 00:51:26 | bzdoug | very |
| 00:55:21 | Patlabor221 | I love haveing a generic prefs class |
| 01:02:42 | sussudio | haveing? |
| 01:02:52 | bzdoug | is away: bed |
| 01:25:04 | microkid88 | how do I cheat BZFlag? |
| 01:25:31 | paul | press F12 |
| 01:25:38 | paul | it brings up cheat codes |
| 01:25:38 | microkid88 | that shuts it off |
| 01:25:47 | paul | the answer is - dont. |
| 01:25:48 | sussudio | if you wait here, i'll get the cheat sheet, also known as a sledgehammer |
| 01:26:10 | bzgirl | why do you want to cheat? |
| 01:26:17 | microkid88 | I suck at it |
| 01:26:20 | sussudio | hmm lets see. cause he's a little bitch? |
| 01:26:23 | paul | so practice |
| 01:26:23 | bzgirl | lol |
| 01:26:30 | paul | microkid88: it isnt cool to cheat |
| 01:26:34 | sussudio | ARE YOU A BITCH microkid88?! |
| 01:26:48 | microkid88 | shove it |
| 01:26:54 | paul | too late. |
| 01:26:55 | bzgirl | hehe |
| 01:26:56 | sussudio | i'll take that as a yes |
| 01:28:02 | paul | hey - he's got telnet open into his DSL router. |
| 01:28:03 | paul | :) |
| 01:28:32 | bzgirl | he does huh? :) |
| 01:29:34 | paul | yep. |
| 01:29:43 | paul | and the web config is open too |
| 01:30:04 | paul | i wonder what the default password is :) |
| 01:30:39 | Patlabor221 | admin |
| 01:30:59 | Patlabor221 | that's the standard on linksys and dlink |
| 01:31:59 | bzgirl | nice lax standard |
| 01:32:04 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:32:16 | Patlabor221 | first thing I chnaged on mine |
| 01:32:21 | Patlabor221 | then I turned of remote admin |
| 01:33:00 | paul | anyway.. |
| 01:33:22 | paul | sdsl-216-36-100-68.dsl.chi.megapath.net / 216.36.100.68 is one to put in the ban list on servers.. |
| 01:33:49 | bzgirl | he hasnt actually cheated yet though |
| 01:34:28 | bzgirl | odd that he thought all the cheaters hung out in here :) |
| 01:34:34 | paul | he |
| 01:34:37 | Patlabor221 | very |
| 01:35:50 | paul | what'd be cool'd be to build a client with usec(100) before each call to send a network packet. then put it on a server.. |
| 01:36:13 | paul | if anyone comes in asking for hacked clients, point them to the 'special' client :) |
| 01:36:42 | Patlabor221 | we did something like that for our software |
| 01:36:48 | paul | ? |
| 01:36:56 | Patlabor221 | I made a "special version" that would make crapy output files |
| 01:37:04 | Patlabor221 | but they looked normal ish |
| 01:37:24 | Patlabor221 | and then we redirected known warez users to that versiuon |
| 01:37:30 | Patlabor221 | so that they would crack it |
| 01:37:46 | Patlabor221 | and then make it look like they broke it when they cracked it |
| 01:38:42 | SpacemanSpiff | Well, I'm off guys... it's getting late here |
| 01:38:46 | SpacemanSpiff | God bless you all!!! |
| 01:38:50 | bzgirl | bye :) |
| 01:38:52 | SpacemanSpiff | Goodnight |
| 01:39:15 | SpacemanSpiff | Oh, by the way jzaun... whenever you see this.. I'm coming out with a new world soon... my best yet.. you're going to love it ;-) C-ya! |
| 01:40:15 | paul | Patlabor221: he good one :) |
| 01:41:37 | Patlabor221 | I don't know if it worked tho |
| 01:57:13 | sussudio | umm dont you get final fantasy on a playstation? |
| 01:57:56 | Patlabor221 | what one? |
| 01:57:59 | Patlabor221 | 8 sucked ass |
| 01:58:03 | sussudio | XI? |
| 01:58:11 | Patlabor221 | the online one |
| 01:58:17 | sussudio | *shrug* |
| 01:58:17 | sussudio | "Gameforms is reporting that Square has signed a deal with Dell that will secure new Dell computers to be shipping with Final Fantasy XI pre-installed. This comes on the heels of another story involving Square partnering with nVidia, in which certain aspects/details in Final Fantasy XI will only be able to be accomplished with a geForce4 card." |
| 01:58:17 | Patlabor221 | looks interesting |
| 01:58:26 | sussudio | i'm just wondering what the bloody point of this is |
| 01:58:36 | sussudio | a playstation 2 is a hella lot cheaper than a new pc |
| 01:58:46 | Patlabor221 | 11 is like a mmorpg |
| 01:58:56 | Patlabor221 | it's all online |
| 01:59:04 | Patlabor221 | and it's exposure |
| 01:59:10 | sussudio | yay. |
| 01:59:20 | Patlabor221 | and to get it to work on a PS2 it needs a BBA and hard drive |
| 01:59:54 | Patlabor221 | it will be avalbe on the PC serperatly too |
| 02:00:08 | sussudio | not that i'd be buying a dell, but IF i were to get one, that would mean i'd pay for FFXI in advance |
| 02:00:12 | sussudio | which is bad |
| 02:00:51 | Patlabor221 | I don't think they are charging for the app, since it's got a reguring billing kinda fee thing |
| 02:01:08 | Patlabor221 | everquest style |
| 02:01:53 | Patlabor221 | I gotta go ransack a house |
| 02:24:25 | sussudio | bzgirl: base-config :-P |
| 02:25:21 | bzgirl | sussudio> cool thanks, i got screwed up and wanted to just fix one or 2 thinks :) |
| 02:25:25 | bzgirl | things.. |
| 02:25:31 | sussudio | hmmk |
| 02:35:43 | sussudio1 | bitchass OPN |
| 02:37:23 | bzgirl | sussudio> base-config isnt a command though is it? |
| 02:40:18 | sussudio | it's a package :-| |
| 02:40:29 | bzgirl | sussudio> nm...got it :) |
| 02:57:28 | sussudio | has pie |
| 02:57:54 | captain_proton | returns |
| 02:58:23 | sussudio | eats pie |
| 02:58:52 | sussudio | dies of a coronary for eating butterpie |
| 02:59:45 | sussudio | blames the almond filling |
| 03:57:10 | captain_proton | mmmmm, painful chips |
| 03:57:15 | captain_proton | so tasty |
| 04:06:27 | Patlabor221 | painfull? |
| 04:07:33 | captain_proton | habanero flavor |
| 04:08:15 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 04:08:24 | captain_proton | they're soooooo good |
| 04:08:40 | Patlabor221 | spicy things and me don't get allong very well |
| 04:08:51 | captain_proton | that's unfortunate |
| 04:09:10 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure I shall live |
| 04:09:53 | Patlabor221 | wow didn't know I still had one of these around |
| 04:10:06 | Patlabor221 | rember when 72pin simms were just coming out? |
| 04:10:12 | captain_proton | barely |
| 04:10:22 | Patlabor221 | and people wanted to keep there old 30 pin simms |
| 04:10:30 | captain_proton | ooh an adapter? |
| 04:10:32 | Patlabor221 | found a "simverter" |
| 04:10:32 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:10:38 | lurgyman | i want to keep my old simms |
| 04:10:49 | lurgyman | gotta find 'em first |
| 04:10:49 | Patlabor221 | chock full of 4 meg 30 pinners |
| 04:10:54 | captain_proton | got a 32-pin simm to rdram converter? :) |
| 04:10:59 | lurgyman | mmm... 4 meg goodness |
| 04:11:13 | Patlabor221 | makes one 16 meg 72 pin |
| 04:11:30 | Patlabor221 | almost put it in the P80 |
| 04:13:25 | lurgyman | i have a p75 laptop |
| 04:14:40 | Patlabor221 | I have a 486 with a p80 ODP |
| 04:14:46 | Patlabor221 | and it's the server |
| 04:16:18 | Patlabor221 | it even runs BZ |
| 04:16:29 | akira_ | moin patty |
| 04:16:38 | akira_ | still awake or again? |
| 04:16:49 | Patlabor221 | it's just 10:24 here |
| 04:16:52 | Patlabor221 | PM |
| 04:17:02 | akira_ | whats this? after noon? |
| 04:17:03 | Patlabor221 | the night.. she is still young |
| 04:17:26 | akira_ | i never got that .. always forget what before and what after noon |
| 04:17:35 | akira_ | am is in the morning right? |
| 04:17:37 | Patlabor221 | I search for textures |
| 04:17:41 | Patlabor221 | PM is after noon |
| 04:17:57 | akira_ | ok, then i must just invert my little reminder |
| 04:18:06 | Patlabor221 | P for "Post " someting that starts with M |
| 04:18:07 | akira_ | invert a for after noon :) |
| 04:18:21 | akira_ | middle of the day |
| 04:18:24 | Patlabor221 | a is "antes" thing |
| 04:18:32 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 04:18:36 | akira_ | hey .. ok, perhaps i could remind that :)) |
| 04:18:42 | akira_ | but 0 - 24 is much easier :))) |
| 04:18:46 | Patlabor221 | its 22:26: how's tha |
| 04:18:49 | Patlabor221 | it is |
| 04:18:54 | Patlabor221 | just not used much here |
| 04:18:59 | Patlabor221 | just like the metric system |
| 04:19:02 | akira_ | was us ? |
| 04:19:10 | akira_ | (usa) ? |
| 04:19:28 | Patlabor221 | yeah California |
| 04:19:49 | akira_ | land of "freedom" :) |
| 04:19:55 | Patlabor221 | in a town who's name becomes someting bad when spelled backwards |
| 04:20:02 | Patlabor221 | well that's what they call it |
| 04:20:06 | akira_ | :)) |
| 04:20:13 | akira_ | thats why i enclosed it :) |
| 04:20:24 | akira_ | what town? |
| 04:20:29 | Patlabor221 | moorpark |
| 04:20:41 | akira_ | whats kraproom? |
| 04:20:43 | Patlabor221 | aka kraproom!! |
| 04:20:48 | akira_ | craproom? |
| 04:20:52 | Patlabor221 | there you go |
| 04:20:57 | akira_ | ah |
| 04:21:01 | akira_ | :) |
| 04:21:03 | Patlabor221 | a place where you go to poo. |
| 04:21:11 | akira_ | clear |
| 04:21:33 | akira_ | do you have some experience with php and / or apache ? |
| 04:21:38 | akira_ | or "just" a win32 user? |
| 04:22:02 | Patlabor221 | PHP no |
| 04:22:06 | Patlabor221 | apache no |
| 04:22:17 | Patlabor221 | ASP yes |
| 04:22:21 | Patlabor221 | that IIS crap yes |
| 04:22:27 | Patlabor221 | CGIs a bit |
| 04:22:28 | akira_ | i am getting hungry .. shit |
| 04:22:47 | Patlabor221 | I would not recomend shit for breakfast |
| 04:22:52 | Patlabor221 | can't be good for you |
| 04:23:24 | akira_ | shit coz of http://141.44.198.27/~gumz/roentgen-klein.png |
| 04:24:08 | Patlabor221 | that is a fiar amount of wire |
| 04:24:17 | Patlabor221 | I asume that is you |
| 04:24:32 | akira_ | thats me .. but the wire is not so important .. :) |
| 04:24:55 | Patlabor221 | what the hell did you do to yourself? |
| 04:25:24 | akira_ | they saw up upperjaw and put it a bit forward and upwards |
| 04:25:36 | akira_ | and split lower jaw and put it back a step |
| 04:25:42 | Patlabor221 | dosn't sound pleasant |
| 04:26:04 | akira_ | screw screws in the jaw and wired wire around my teeth :) |
| 04:26:17 | Patlabor221 | and this is all for? |
| 04:26:29 | akira_ | thats why getting hungry is not so .. cool et al :) |
| 04:26:49 | Patlabor221 | liquid food |
| 04:27:22 | akira_ | the upper toothrow and the lower toothrow where just standing exactly on each other -> misfunction |
| 04:28:04 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 04:28:58 | akira_ | not a "real bad" miscfuntion .. but it could be possible to loss the lower front teeth at 35 or 40 ... |
| 04:29:15 | akira_ | (pressure would be too high from the upper teeth) |
| 04:29:21 | Patlabor221 | that would suck |
| 04:29:36 | akira_ | yep |
| 04:32:19 | Patlabor221 | ok got a question |
| 04:32:30 | Patlabor221 | I got an assload of files that are named like this |
| 04:32:55 | Patlabor221 | UTtech2.utx-SOME_STUFF.bmp |
| 04:33:09 | Patlabor221 | and I want to rename them all just SOME_STUFF.bmp |
| 04:33:31 | Patlabor221 | the first part is consistent in all the files |
| 04:33:47 | Patlabor221 | I am seriously doubting that windows can do it |
| 04:33:52 | akira_ | har |
| 04:33:54 | Patlabor221 | how can I do it in linux? |
| 04:34:15 | akira_ | you just want the some stuff stuf? |
| 04:34:27 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:34:39 | Patlabor221 | I want to remove the first part from all the files |
| 04:34:40 | akira_ | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 04:34:45 | akira_ | first doku |
| 04:35:05 | akira_ | they explain a lot of basic shell scripting stuff |
| 04:35:12 | akira_ | basicly it would be something like |
| 04:35:58 | akira_ | for $file in `ls $directory_where_you_want_to_rename/*.bmp` |
| 04:35:59 | akira_ | do |
| 04:36:02 | akira_ | some stuff |
| 04:36:05 | akira_ | done |
| 04:36:22 | akira_ | some stuff would extract first part |
| 04:37:09 | akira_ | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/contributed-scripts.html#RN |
| 04:37:14 | akira_ | that would be a good entry |
| 04:37:15 | Patlabor221 | there's not a realy cool rename command :( |
| 04:37:31 | akira_ | there are a lot of cool rename - utilities |
| 04:38:24 | akira_ | they are built up as a sum of smaller utilities .. in your case its mv (of coz for renaming) and sed (for finding out the stuff) |
| 04:41:20 | akira_ | http://freshmeat.net/projects/krename/?topic_id=57 |
| 04:41:48 | akira_ | this tool would be perhaps easier for you than bashscripting |
| 04:43:07 | Patlabor221 | or I just write one in C |
| 04:43:38 | akira_ | i dont think so :) |
| 04:43:53 | akira_ | or you have to include "regular expression" :) |
| 04:44:04 | akira_ | so, cu later |
| 05:07:48 | captain_proton | hmm, the last episode of the prisoner is cool |
| 05:10:12 | Patlabor221 | with the trailer thing goingh throught the streets of london? |
| 05:10:26 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 05:10:28 | lurgyman | haha, cu later |
| 05:11:00 | Patlabor221 | yeah I'm outa here too |
| 06:02:28 | BZFlag | cool, new irix packages uploaded to SF. ;-) |
| 06:02:45 | captain_proton | nifty |
| 06:03:28 | captain_proton | courtesy of whom? |
| 06:03:48 | BZFlag | Chris Walters |
| 06:04:16 | captain_proton | should i know that name? |
| 06:04:56 | BZFlag | nope, I jst added him to the project cause he had access to the right build environments. |
| 06:05:11 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:44:45 | BZFlag | any sign of chris? |
| 06:53:35 | BZFlag | guess not. |
| 06:54:20 | BZFlag | whois marcmerlin |
| 06:54:24 | BZFlag | eep. |
| 07:01:59 | captain_proton | beep beep |
| 07:05:50 | bomber | moin |
| 07:10:56 | BZFlag | moin |
| 07:39:14 | bomber | hi Pinguin |
| 07:39:50 | Pinguin | morning bomber ... |
| 07:40:02 | | it has been said that bomber is a plane dropping explosives |
| 07:40:02 | Pinguin | ibot bomber? |
| 07:40:19 | bomber | haha |
| 07:40:33 | bomber | no coffee brake today ? |
| 07:40:48 | Pinguin | Ha is somewhere ... or somewhere else ... |
| 07:40:56 | bomber | aaaahhh |
| 07:41:00 | Pinguin | Hehehe |
| 07:41:06 | bomber | GNOME meeting? |
| 07:41:15 | Pinguin | it is working for you now? |
| 07:41:24 | bomber | i dont know ? |
| 07:41:30 | bomber | lets try it |
| 07:41:33 | Pinguin | OK |
| 07:42:26 | Pinguin | Strange ... the very moment we are connected Gnomemeeting freezes ... |
| 07:43:04 | Pinguin | killed gnomemeeting ... |
| 07:43:37 | Pinguin | Can you run xawtv ? |
| 08:02:40 | Chestal | hmm, reading about screenshots |
| 08:03:20 | Chestal | captain_proton: how do we get some on the site? maybe they should be reviewed |
| 08:05:15 | captain_proton | Chestal: right now? log in as a shell user, run /home/group/b/bz/bzflag/cvsroot, change the web page, then cvs commit |
| 08:06:26 | Chestal | hmm |
| 08:29:02 | BZFlag | captain_proton: source /home/group/b/bz/bzflag/cvsroot not just run. |
| 08:29:22 | BZFlag | ie: ". /home/group/b/bz/bzflag/cvsroot" |
| 08:30:51 | BZFlag | and run /home/groups/b/bz/bzflag/fixmygrouppermissions while you're there. |
| 08:31:30 | BZFlag | oh, and it's ". /home/groups/b/bz/bzflag/cvsroot" groups, not group. |
| 08:31:41 | BZFlag | nite |
| 08:31:51 | Chestal | good night |
| 12:21:38 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:21:38 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 12:21:39 | bzbot | ypsilon (G): 0 (2-2). Chestal (R): 2 (5-3). dave (G): -2 (2-4). |
| 13:23:28 | juanjose | heya |
| 13:23:34 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 13:23:40 | bzdoug | greetings |
| 13:40:42 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:40:42 | [TeA|]-[XP] | ibot, ducati |
| 13:40:43 | bzbot | root (R): 4 (13-9). Chestal (G): 17 (51-34). Yeti (R): 7 (72-65). [dmp] (G): -1 (1-2). MakosTeszta (G): -1 (52-53). |
| 13:43:04 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:43:04 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 13:43:05 | bzbot | root (R): 4 (20-16). Chestal (G): 19 (57-38). Yeti (R): 6 (76-70). [dmp] (G): -2 (3-5). MakosTeszta (G): -1 (56-57). [TeA]=Pingu (penguins) (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 14:06:19 | Terminator | hi all |
| 14:06:33 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:06:33 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 14:11:12 | Terminator | hmm? |
| 14:11:17 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:11:17 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 14:11:18 | bzbot | Taure (R): -3 (45-48). h.j.pum (G): -1 (0-1). |
| 14:11:23 | Terminator | ah |
| 14:17:28 | Terminator | hi mrcooper |
| 14:17:48 | MrCooper | hi |
| 14:17:52 | Terminator | is away busy |
| 14:17:56 | Terminator | oops |
| 14:18:02 | Terminator | is back |
| 14:18:05 | Terminator | hmm? |
| 14:18:17 | Terminator | is away: busy |
| 14:18:22 | Terminator | is back |
| 14:18:29 | Terminator | is back: |
| 14:18:35 | Terminator | ah forget it |
| 14:19:08 | Terminator | brb |
| 14:22:31 | Terminator | back |
| 14:23:17 | Terminator | is away playin' games before he does his homework (He actually is away this time) |
| 14:25:29 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:25:29 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 14:25:29 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 14:27:49 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:27:49 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 14:27:50 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 14:27:56 | bomber | hmm |
| 14:29:59 | captain_proton | ooh, release of gdl...niftiness |
| 14:46:07 | blackhound | hey everyone |
| 14:48:56 | Terminator | is back |
| 14:49:02 | Terminator | hi blackhound |
| 14:49:36 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:49:36 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 14:49:36 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 14:58:00 | | ACTION farts. |
| 14:58:00 | Terminator | ibot fart |
| 14:58:10 | | goodbye, Terminator. |
| 14:58:10 | Terminator | ibot part #bzflag |
| 14:59:44 | Terminator | yyyyeeeeeeessssss |
| 14:59:53 | bzdoug | ooh |
| 14:59:57 | Patlabor221 | grumbles |
| 15:00:05 | bzdoug | I got my email from partspc! |
| 15:00:47 | bzdoug | no reply about paypal |
| 15:00:57 | Terminator | what r they? |
| 15:01:13 | bzdoug | people that sell pc parts |
| 15:01:34 | Patlabor221 | well you just sent it last night |
| 15:01:59 | bzdoug | true... |
| 15:02:16 | Patlabor221 | give them time, they just got to work an hour ago |
| 15:02:24 | bzdoug | ah |
| 15:02:31 | bzdoug | well I emailed them about 3 times |
| 15:02:43 | Patlabor221 | 3 times last night? |
| 15:02:43 | bzdoug | :P |
| 15:03:21 | bzdoug | yea, twice about that address for the money order, cuz i sent the email to sales and service@partspc.com and about the paypal |
| 15:03:37 | Terminator | (# |
| 15:03:42 | Terminator | whoops |
| 15:03:47 | Patlabor221 | well hell, that dosn't mean anything |
| 15:04:00 | bzdoug | (ns) |
| 15:04:02 | Patlabor221 | you do realy know how to be anoying |
| 15:04:05 | Terminator | it does in trillian |
| 15:04:14 | bzdoug | ''l |
| 15:04:18 | bzdoug | (globe) |
| 15:04:30 | Terminator | hmm i guess i can c da pics |
| 15:04:41 | Terminator | how many other ppl have trillian here |
| 15:04:44 | bzdoug | yes, very annoying that it dont support other things like :o) |
| 15:04:56 | bzdoug | Terminator: tea-[XP] |
| 15:05:05 | Terminator | huh? |
| 15:05:17 | | I haven't seen 'tea-[XP]', bzdoug |
| 15:05:17 | bzdoug | ibot seen tea-[XP] |
| 15:05:25 | bzdoug | humph |
| 15:05:26 | Patlabor221 | well since like 90% of the people here use linux, I think it's just gonna be you 2 |
| 15:05:33 | bzdoug | and tea |
| 15:05:38 | bzdoug | tea uses trillian |
| 15:05:41 | Terminator | k |
| 15:05:42 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 15:05:44 | bzdoug | and a couple of other people |
| 15:05:48 | Patlabor221 | so you know the answer |
| 15:05:50 | bzdoug | your are work? |
| 15:05:55 | | [tea] was last seen on #bzflag 2 days, 20 hours, 47 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying: ibot ducati [Tue Sep 24 19:17:57 2002] |
| 15:05:55 | Terminator | ibot seen [tea] |
| 15:05:57 | Patlabor221 | what do you think |
| 15:05:58 | bzdoug | #1 |
| 15:06:10 | | I haven't seen '[tea]-xp', Terminator |
| 15:06:10 | Terminator | ibot seen [tea]-xp |
| 15:06:33 | bzdoug | likes jail-break |
| 15:06:53 | Patlabor221 | jail bait? |
| 15:07:00 | bzdoug | in UT |
| 15:07:01 | Patlabor221 | you like have sex with 12 year old girls? |
| 15:07:09 | Terminator | hmm |
| 15:07:18 | bzdoug | rolls his eyes |
| 15:07:23 | bzdoug | http://www.planetunreal.com/images/photo/index.asp?id=390379 |
| 15:07:34 | Patlabor221 | I know what it is |
| 15:07:44 | bzdoug | that image is funny |
| 15:07:45 | Patlabor221 | they have the same thing for Q2 and G3 |
| 15:07:49 | Patlabor221 | q3 |
| 15:07:53 | bzdoug | yea |
| 15:08:02 | Terminator | is sickened by Patlabor221, only 12 year old boys can have sex with 12 year old girls |
| 15:08:04 | Terminator | lol |
| 15:08:06 | Terminator | jk |
| 15:08:20 | Patlabor221 | well doug is 15 so that's not too farr off. |
| 15:08:22 | bzdoug | wonders off to UT2003 |
| 15:08:42 | bzdoug | oh yea, Ut2003 runs fast in 1024 than at 512 resolution |
| 15:09:03 | Patlabor221 | 512? |
| 15:09:04 | Terminator | decides to follow bzdoug |
| 15:09:09 | bzdoug | er |
| 15:09:14 | bzdoug | what ever that res it |
| 15:09:16 | bzdoug | is* |
| 15:09:18 | Patlabor221 | 640? |
| 15:09:20 | bzdoug | no |
| 15:09:22 | bzdoug | lower |
| 15:09:28 | bzdoug | next one down |
| 15:09:31 | Patlabor221 | 320 |
| 15:09:36 | bzdoug | next one up |
| 15:09:40 | Terminator | lol |
| 15:09:45 | Patlabor221 | there shouldn't be anything in there |
| 15:09:45 | bzdoug | the one in the middle |
| 15:09:51 | bzdoug | well, there is in UT2003 |
| 15:09:52 | Terminator | lol |
| 15:09:55 | Patlabor221 | unless you got a wierd montitor def |
| 15:10:03 | Patlabor221 | ohh you got that mac monitor don't you |
| 15:10:07 | bzdoug | it runs fast at 1024 res than at 512 |
| 15:10:09 | bzdoug | yea |
| 15:10:09 | Patlabor221 | 512X384 |
| 15:10:09 | bzdoug | I do |
| 15:10:12 | bzdoug | yea! |
| 15:10:17 | Patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 15:10:19 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:10:20 | Patlabor221 | since it's all card |
| 15:10:34 | Terminator | i have it at 1024x768 |
| 15:10:43 | Terminator | and it runs really fast still |
| 15:10:52 | bzdoug | yea, same here |
| 15:10:59 | bzdoug | on a 333 mhz computer, its amazing |
| 15:11:04 | bzdoug | Whilst 15 is a sensible limit as to the number of bots you should use in any one game, it is possible to bring more than 350 individual bots into a game (it's recommended you do this on only the largest of Assault and CTF maps). |
| 15:11:08 | Patlabor221 | like I said it's all card |
| 15:11:11 | Terminator | i have 1.8Ghz |
| 15:11:13 | bzdoug | 350 bots... very cool |
| 15:11:16 | bzdoug | Terminator: ha |
| 15:11:58 | Terminator | hmm ok i'm off to ut2003 now |
| 15:12:05 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:12:07 | bzdoug | what server? |
| 15:12:12 | Terminator | dunno |
| 15:12:13 | bzdoug | meet you there |
| 15:12:15 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:12:22 | bzdoug | you on dsl right? |
| 15:12:23 | Terminator | u can decide |
| 15:12:27 | Terminator | yeah |
| 15:12:28 | bzdoug | can you host a server? |
| 15:12:34 | Terminator | yeah |
| 15:12:37 | Terminator | sure |
| 15:12:38 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:12:38 | yonk | humm |
| 15:12:44 | yonk | i can get no server list, anyone know bout that issue? |
| 15:12:46 | Terminator | ok hold on a mo |
| 15:12:46 | bzdoug | YONK |
| 15:12:49 | yonk | just compiled the latest cvs version |
| 15:12:50 | bzdoug | Terminator: k |
| 15:14:41 | Patlabor221 | the 1.8 cvs version is not complete |
| 15:14:51 | Patlabor221 | it is missing a lot of things |
| 15:15:06 | Patlabor221 | like the server list |
| 15:15:11 | Patlabor221 | and things like shddows |
| 15:15:12 | yonk | i have the same problem with 1.7e6 |
| 15:15:25 | yonk | server list only contains one (australian) server with no ppl on |
| 15:15:31 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 15:15:34 | yonk | thats pretty useless to me |
| 15:15:37 | bzdoug | indeed |
| 15:16:05 | yonk | actually the one server it has keeps changing |
| 15:16:05 | Patlabor221 | seems to work here for me |
| 15:16:20 | yonk | but there always is only one single server in the list :( |
| 15:16:29 | Patlabor221 | are you perhaps port blocked in some way? |
| 15:16:35 | yonk | i have already checked my firewall logs and theres nothing blocked |
| 15:16:41 | yonk | nope.. i've checked that |
| 15:16:46 | Terminator | ok i think it is called Terminators specail server |
| 15:16:52 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:16:53 | bzdoug | k |
| 15:16:57 | bzdoug | lemme see |
| 15:16:58 | Terminator | it is a bombing run |
| 15:16:58 | yonk | i have a couple UDPs to port 1214 |
| 15:16:59 | Patlabor221 | well 1.8 won't do it |
| 15:17:06 | bzdoug | meet you there |
| 15:17:09 | yonk | but i suppose thats scriptkiddy-spew |
| 15:17:12 | Patlabor221 | but e6 should with no problems |
| 15:17:16 | yonk | or is 1214 used by bzflag? |
| 15:17:29 | bzdoug | CTF? |
| 15:17:32 | bzdoug | deathmatch? |
| 15:17:35 | bzdoug | what is it? |
| 15:17:58 | yonk | hmm well, ill try to play on that one now.. at least i finally got one that has 3 players on.. :X |
| 15:18:01 | yonk | cu.. |
| 15:18:29 | Patlabor221 | what OS you on? |
| 15:19:29 | Terminator | bzdoug |
| 15:19:33 | Terminator | where r ya |
| 15:19:34 | bzdoug | ? |
| 15:19:40 | bzdoug | DM? |
| 15:19:42 | Terminator | it is a bombing run game |
| 15:19:42 | bzdoug | or CTF? |
| 15:19:44 | bzdoug | ooh |
| 15:19:49 | bzdoug | humph |
| 15:19:52 | Terminator | lol |
| 15:19:56 | Terminator | ok c ya there |
| 15:19:59 | bzdoug | ok |
| 15:21:20 | blackhound | :/ |
| 15:21:32 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:21:37 | bzdoug | still trying to connect |
| 15:21:48 | Terminator | bzdoug |
| 15:21:54 | bzdoug | ? |
| 15:21:55 | Terminator | i dont think it is working |
| 15:21:59 | bzdoug | yea |
| 15:22:00 | Patlabor221 | you know why I hate X chat |
| 15:22:05 | Terminator | r u on adsl |
| 15:22:07 | bzdoug | ok, then I will host it |
| 15:22:09 | bzdoug | yea |
| 15:22:09 | Patlabor221 | the dmaned mouse wheel don't work |
| 15:22:12 | bzdoug | lemme host it |
| 15:22:23 | Terminator | k |
| 15:22:33 | bzdoug | what is bombing run? |
| 15:22:39 | Terminator | lol |
| 15:22:55 | Terminator | set up a bombing run server and i will show u how to play |
| 15:22:59 | bzdoug | ok |
| 15:23:03 | Patlabor221 | it's simple |
| 15:23:10 | Patlabor221 | and very fun |
| 15:23:14 | Terminator | yup# |
| 15:23:20 | Terminator | *yup |
| 15:23:22 | bzdoug | ok |
| 15:23:28 | bzdoug | join bzdougs UTserver |
| 15:23:33 | Terminator | k |
| 15:23:44 | bzdoug | its got 1 bot till you join |
| 15:23:55 | bzdoug | yawns |
| 15:27:43 | Cell_prog_insect | hi |
| 15:31:09 | SpacemanSpiff | Hiya people |
| 15:31:19 | SpacemanSpiff | I have a question about world creation..... |
| 15:31:42 | SpacemanSpiff | I've heard about a formula for object rotation, can someone explain it to me? |
| 15:32:18 | Cell_prog_insect | maybe |
| 15:32:27 | Cell_prog_insect | tell me more |
| 15:32:51 | SpacemanSpiff | I use the BZWorld editor.... and when I try to rotate objects they all end up and 90 degrees |
| 15:33:12 | SpacemanSpiff | In other words, I can't make them rotate... I heard that there's a formula for doing it |
| 15:34:45 | Cell_prog_insect | yes u need to multiply all points with a rotation matrix |
| 15:34:59 | SpacemanSpiff | How do I do that? |
| 15:36:57 | Cell_prog_insect | assuming u have ur rotation angle alpha in rads: then x' = x * cos(alpha)-y*sin(alpha) and y' = x*sin(alpha)+y*cos(alpha, and z'=z |
| 15:37:24 | SpacemanSpiff | Hmm... that means absolutely nouthing to me, LoL |
| 15:38:17 | Cell_prog_insect | so then i dont know |
| 15:39:29 | SpacemanSpiff | On Dervish DuKot's page it says... "rads = (degs / 180 ) * PI" |
| 15:39:42 | SpacemanSpiff | What does the * sign mean thougH??? Times? |
| 15:40:16 | Cell_prog_insect | yes its a multiplication |
| 15:40:31 | Cell_prog_insect | that is the conversion from degrees to rads |
| 15:40:49 | SpacemanSpiff | Okay..... so "degs / 180"... what does that mean? |
| 15:40:57 | SpacemanSpiff | Degs over 180? |
| 15:41:42 | Cell_prog_insect | no divide degs with 180, i.e if degs is 90 then (degs/180) yelds 0.5 |
| 15:42:08 | bzdoug | bzedit has a builtah |
| 15:42:10 | Cell_prog_insect | and PI = 3.14 |
| 15:42:15 | bzdoug | got a reply for that patpal |
| 15:42:19 | bzdoug | paypal thingy |
| 15:42:21 | bzdoug | 9/27/2002 |
| 15:42:21 | bzdoug | Hello sir, no we do not accept paypal. |
| 15:42:21 | bzdoug | Thank you, |
| 15:42:21 | bzdoug | Partspc. |
| 15:42:27 | bzdoug | very formal |
| 15:42:28 | bzdoug | :P |
| 15:43:00 | Terminator | hmm |
| 15:43:08 | bzdoug | I am back now |
| 15:43:09 | SpacemanSpiff | Ahh... I get it now... devide |
| 15:43:19 | SpacemanSpiff | Okay... I couldn't figure out what the different signs meant |
| 15:43:31 | Terminator | hehe |
| 15:43:51 | Terminator | hopr u know what + means |
| 15:43:53 | Terminator | lol |
| 15:43:54 | Terminator | jk |
| 15:44:08 | bzdoug | coughs |
| 15:44:14 | bzdoug | ok |
| 15:44:17 | SpacemanSpiff | Thanks :P |
| 15:44:18 | SpacemanSpiff | LoL |
| 15:44:25 | Terminator | wonders why bzdoug coughed |
| 15:44:38 | bzdoug | you wanna play again? anyone have UT2k3? |
| 15:44:55 | SpacemanSpiff | Well, I'm out guys........ gonna go work on my world some more |
| 15:44:59 | bzdoug | cya |
| 15:44:59 | Terminator | ut2003? |
| 15:45:01 | SpacemanSpiff | God bless |
| 15:45:03 | bzdoug | yea |
| 15:45:03 | SpacemanSpiff | C-ya |
| 15:45:05 | bzdoug | you too |
| 15:45:08 | Terminator | sumne else musrt have it |
| 15:45:13 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:45:15 | bzdoug | Patlabor221 does |
| 15:45:18 | SpacemanSpiff | Oh, and thanks for your help Cell |
| 15:45:19 | SpacemanSpiff | C-ya |
| 15:45:21 | bzdoug | but hes at work |
| 15:45:30 | Terminator | oh |
| 15:45:31 | bzdoug | Terminator: ok instagib on? |
| 15:45:45 | Terminator | yup |
| 15:46:05 | Terminator | same server name? |
| 15:46:08 | bzdoug | yea |
| 15:46:09 | bzdoug | hold on |
| 15:46:11 | Terminator | k |
| 15:46:13 | bzdoug | startiong it |
| 15:46:16 | Terminator | k |
| 15:46:17 | bzdoug | starting the server... |
| 15:46:22 | bzdoug | tkaes awhile |
| 15:46:22 | Terminator | k |
| 15:46:25 | Terminator | k |
| 15:46:26 | bzdoug | and it has bots! |
| 15:46:26 | bzdoug | :P |
| 15:46:29 | Terminator | k |
| 15:46:50 | bzdoug | join it |
| 15:46:52 | Terminator | what did u set the bot skill to? |
| 15:46:57 | bzdoug | novice |
| 15:47:00 | Terminator | k |
| 15:47:06 | Terminator | ok cya there |
| 15:47:07 | bzdoug | when you join, the bot will daspear |
| 15:51:58 | sussudio | anyone want to have a go at my new map? |
| 16:05:12 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:05:12 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 16:05:13 | bzbot | Niksie (R): 0 (0-0). MrWhip (G): 3 (71-68). |
| 16:07:18 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:07:18 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 16:07:18 | bzbot | Metal Magic The Ace Of Aces (R): 0 (0-0). MrWhip (G): 3 (71-68). |
| 16:17:21 | Cell_prog_insect | as i mentionted, i try to build a GUI for an instance of an arbitrary class dynamically at runtime, the GUI shows controlls associeted with the properties and methods of a class |
| 16:19:54 | bzdoug | whoop whoop whoop |
| 16:20:18 | Cell_prog_insect | so for example for a method like add( int a, int b) it would greate a slider control labaled 'a' and a slider control labaled 'b' and a push button labeled 'add', just a simple example |
| 16:22:01 | Cell_prog_insect | for a complex tipe it wouuld decompose the tipe to simple types, and there is a control provided for each simple type, i.e. bool would correspond to check box control and enum to a radio control or selection box |
| 16:23:22 | Cell_prog_insect | hence this is done in runtime, it uses the c# reflection api to get the type information of a object instance |
| 16:27:09 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:27:09 | [TeA] | ibot ducati |
| 16:27:10 | bzbot | bomber (G): 17 (47-30). linux-3.0.3 (G): 3 (5-2). MrWhip (G): 8 (103-95). tom (R): -1 (1-2). -<Vins>- (R): -11 (12-23). fodder (R): -17 (3-20). |
| 16:27:15 | | yes, [TeA]? |
| 16:27:15 | [TeA] | ibot ? |
| 16:27:29 | [TeA] | ZZZZzZzZzZz.. |
| 17:18:48 | bzdoug | odd |
| 17:18:59 | bzdoug | games run faster at higher res. |
| 17:19:03 | bzdoug | is away: lunch |
| 17:33:51 | sussudio | not odd |
| 17:34:07 | sussudio | some videocards have optimized video modes :-| |
| 17:35:57 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 17:36:04 | sussudio | monitors too |
| 17:36:13 | sussudio | well it only makes sense |
| 17:36:15 | bzdoug | then whats geforces optimized mode? |
| 17:36:19 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:36:21 | bzdoug | I guess so |
| 17:36:29 | sussudio | if most people are going to run the videocard at 1024x758x32bpp why not optimize for it |
| 17:36:38 | bzdoug | yea |
| 17:36:45 | sussudio | bzdoug: should be in the docs |
| 17:36:54 | bzdoug | yea |
| 17:36:58 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 17:37:00 | bzdoug | brb |
| 17:37:01 | sussudio | this 15 inch dell monitor's optimal video mode is 800x600x85hz |
| 17:37:12 | bzdoug | is away: getting the mail |
| 17:44:09 | bzdoug | is back |
| 17:44:12 | bzdoug | hm |
| 17:44:37 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:44:45 | bzdoug | is away: totaly unreal |
| 17:46:15 | Terminator | hi all |
| 17:46:21 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:46:21 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 17:46:34 | Terminator | hmm? |
| 17:46:37 | sussudio | lo toiletboy |
| 17:46:39 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:46:39 | Terminator | ibot ducati? |
| 17:46:53 | Terminator | y is it not working |
| 17:47:19 | Terminator | lo toiletboy? |
| 17:48:21 | Terminator | hmm sussido what does 'lo toiletboy' mean? |
| 17:48:40 | sussudio | you know what it means |
| 17:49:16 | | Hello boy with 3 toilets |
| 17:49:16 | sussudio | ibot: lo toiletboy |
| 17:49:25 | Terminator | oh |
| 17:49:29 | Terminator | hehe |
| 17:49:49 | Terminator | and i have one shower and one bath |
| 17:49:54 | Terminator | lol |
| 17:50:07 | sussudio | hm so you can triple-poop but only shower once |
| 17:50:09 | sussudio | that's not right |
| 17:50:19 | Terminator | i have two showers |
| 17:50:23 | Terminator | i ment |
| 17:50:33 | Terminator | both r electric |
| 17:50:39 | sussudio | hmm |
| 17:50:41 | Terminator | one has a shower tray |
| 17:50:45 | sussudio | electrocution |
| 17:50:51 | Terminator | but the other is over a bath |
| 17:51:03 | sussudio | why isnt there one over the toilet |
| 17:51:12 | Terminator | lol |
| 17:52:07 | | yeah, i wanna pee and showah sometimes too, damn it! |
| 17:52:07 | sussudio | ibot why isnt there one over the toilet |
| 17:53:02 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:53:02 | [TeA] | ibot ducati |
| 17:53:04 | sussudio | i bet tea has a toiletshower |
| 17:53:11 | [TeA] | lol |
| 17:53:16 | [TeA] | sure ;) |
| 17:53:26 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:53:26 | [TeA] | ibot, ducati |
| 17:53:31 | [TeA] | ZZZzzZzZzZzZzzzz...... |
| 17:53:38 | Terminator | lol |
| 17:53:54 | Terminator | can u get aol im even if u dont use aol |
| 17:54:08 | Terminator | aol im = aim |
| 17:54:20 | Terminator | brb |
| 17:54:24 | sussudio | :-P |
| 17:54:50 | patlabor221 | yes you can |
| 17:54:54 | patlabor221 | trillian |
| 17:55:00 | patlabor221 | or gaim |
| 17:55:08 | patlabor221 | or a number of others do it as well |
| 17:55:21 | patlabor221 | or just the regular AIM client |
| 17:55:25 | Terminator | hi |
| 17:55:26 | patlabor221 | it's not tied to AOL |
| 17:55:27 | Terminator | ok |
| 17:55:31 | Terminator | i have trillian |
| 17:55:31 | patlabor221 | www.aim.com |
| 17:55:40 | patlabor221 | then just set up an AIM account |
| 17:55:42 | sussudio | hmm |
| 17:55:43 | Terminator | oh ok |
| 17:55:44 | sussudio | "Africa may harbor three species of elephant instead of just two, suggests a study based on DNA extracted from dung." |
| 17:55:45 | Terminator | thanx |
| 17:55:47 | patlabor221 | and then add it to trillian |
| 17:55:54 | sussudio | "what do you want to do when you grow up timmy?" |
| 17:56:04 | sussudio | "i want to put my hands in elephant poo, miss!" |
| 17:56:48 | sussudio | mmmmbop |
| 17:58:46 | patlabor221 | continues his search for textures. |
| 17:59:33 | patlabor221 | is away ( lunch ) |
| 18:12:10 | Terminator | hi all |
| 18:13:53 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:13:53 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 18:13:54 | bzbot | MIRELLA (G): -1 (2-3). Trurl (R): -47 (19-66). [TeA]=Pinga (G): 1 (4-3). Bruder Jabob (G): 80 (157-77). Mayhem (G): -17 (104-121). Serious Sam (R): -1 (6-7). SGI (R): 3 (22-19). |
| 18:15:14 | | patlabor221 was last seen on #bzflag 15 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: is away ( lunch ) [Fri Sep 27 18:59:33 2002] |
| 18:15:14 | Cell_prog_insect | ibot seen patlabor221 |
| 18:17:50 | | i haven't a clue, bzdoug |
| 18:17:50 | bzdoug | ibot unreal? |
| 18:21:09 | Cell_prog_insect | hey patlabor i now rewrote the stl file loader and used floats to create an idexed mesh out of it and eliminating redundant vertex data, my stl file has 300k vertices and 100k triangles, it took 15min to convert as opposed to 40min in the previous version with string comparison, i now tried to import the file with the 3d studio max stl file importer, i quess its written in c++ :), and quess what its converting now since 10min still not fi |
| 18:22:19 | Chestal | text file parsing usually is slow |
| 18:22:36 | Chestal | yu can often speed it up when you can make some assumptions about the format of the data |
| 18:22:41 | Cell_prog_insect | yes but now i use floats and it takes 15 min with c# |
| 18:22:44 | Chestal | of course, the code will look somewhat messier then |
| 18:23:08 | Chestal | but I do not really know what you are doing exactly |
| 18:23:45 | Cell_prog_insect | there is no way to make assumptions, there is one generally that speeds things up alittle, i took that into account, but it does not apply to this special file |
| 18:25:54 | Cell_prog_insect | the file has 20megs, loading takes about 20 seconds |
| 18:26:11 | Cell_prog_insect | i use regular expressions to parse each line |
| 18:26:34 | Cell_prog_insect | it i zip it its 3megs |
| 18:27:11 | Cell_prog_insect | so it would be faster if i could load the zipped file into ram, and then have a ZippedReader :) |
| 18:27:21 | Chestal | well, not really |
| 18:27:29 | Cell_prog_insect | not? |
| 18:27:30 | Chestal | just getting the data into memeory shoudl take 1-2s |
| 18:28:02 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, k thats maybe a better solution |
| 18:28:14 | Chestal | but it probably won't speed up things |
| 18:28:21 | Cell_prog_insect | why? |
| 18:28:23 | Chestal | I guess it's the processing that takes the time |
| 18:28:42 | Phactorial | I came to a suprising conclusion today... |
| 18:28:45 | Chestal | analyzing the data, possibly allocatign dynamic memory for the processing etc. |
| 18:29:01 | Terminator | hmm |
| 18:29:03 | Cell_prog_insect | could be, but maybe it would be faster then reading line per line from hdisk cache |
| 18:29:24 | Terminator | yea |
| 18:29:34 | Terminator | whateva ur talkin' bout that is |
| 18:29:43 | Chestal | Cel: there should be some buffering in the runtiem lib |
| 18:29:55 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 18:30:24 | Chestal | ok, the buffering could slow it down by a factor of 2 |
| 18:30:31 | Chestal | because the data is copied twice |
| 18:30:51 | Cell_prog_insect | i try it |
| 18:31:08 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: Map the whole file into memory then unzip (make sure you have something to prevent this from happening in small files) |
| 18:31:12 | Chestal | if you were using C or C++ you could just mmap it :-) |
| 18:31:17 | sussudio | hmm do you ever just forget you have a pc running somewhere? |
| 18:31:35 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: or just map in 500byte blocks or something (man setvbuf) |
| 18:31:39 | captain_proton | wow, Phactorial is ubiquitous |
| 18:31:53 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: If C# even has that stuff :D |
| 18:32:04 | Chestal | it will use block buffering for sure |
| 18:32:10 | Chestal | I'd guess at least 4096 bytes |
| 18:32:37 | sussudio | brave brave sir robin..... he buffered the blocks |
| 18:32:50 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, but that has to be possible with c#, since its a system feature |
| 18:33:04 | Phactorial | captain_proton: duh... |
| 18:33:55 | captain_proton | hah |
| 18:35:13 | Cell_prog_insect | 20 min and 3d studio is still not done, what is it doing? |
| 18:35:53 | captain_proton | tea break |
| 18:36:03 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: What operating system? |
| 18:36:10 | Chestal | proton: I added my screenshots btw. |
| 18:36:21 | Cell_prog_insect | it has the worset memory management i have ever seen |
| 18:36:26 | captain_proton | goes to look |
| 18:36:29 | Cell_prog_insect | Phactorial:win2000 server |
| 18:36:33 | Chestal | proton: maybe the page containing them should be changed a little, the sizes differ a little, so it doesn't look too perfect |
| 18:37:11 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: It is sending your registeration information to Microsoft... |
| 18:37:24 | Cell_prog_insect | i dont know |
| 18:37:27 | elgranjp | hi, is the league still alive? |
| 18:37:38 | jpablo | maybe gulmty can play today ... |
| 18:37:41 | captain_proton | Chestal: yeah, thumbnails should be resized/cropped to all be the same size |
| 18:37:44 | Cell_prog_insect | my software is all legal so i dont care |
| 18:37:48 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: lol |
| 18:37:52 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: I am joking with you :) |
| 18:38:13 | Chestal | proton: I guess it would look coudl, if we'd put the images into a table cell each |
| 18:38:45 | Chestal | wel, I must be off, later maybe |
| 18:39:02 | Cell_prog_insect | i had a tool that taled me which app is using which port, quite useful, but lost it somehow |
| 18:39:14 | Cell_prog_insect | tcp port |
| 18:39:35 | Chestal | that's called netstat or lsof on Linux :-) |
| 18:39:53 | captain_proton | lsof is thexy |
| 18:39:53 | Cell_prog_insect | ther is netstat on win2k |
| 18:40:05 | Cell_prog_insect | but it tells me only which ports are open |
| 18:40:27 | Cell_prog_insect | not the corresponding app, or process id |
| 18:40:28 | sussudio | netstat -a |
| 18:40:59 | Terminator | i am back |
| 18:41:04 | Cell_prog_insect | but it does not tell the apps |
| 18:41:09 | sussudio | so |
| 18:41:13 | sussudio | what did you expect? |
| 18:41:28 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:41:28 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 18:41:29 | bzbot | Lucidor (R): 8 (22-14). teenage girl (R): 17 (56-39). Vigadu (G): -10 (18-28). bzgirl (G): 4 (19-15). Mayhem (G): -45 (144-189). jolly (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 18:41:49 | Cell_prog_insect | only protokolls and tcp ports |
| 18:41:59 | sussudio | and? |
| 18:42:40 | Cell_prog_insect | iis for exaple for port 80 listening |
| 18:42:58 | Cell_prog_insect | but not only 80 listening |
| 18:43:26 | sussudio | you're not going to get it with windoze... get over it |
| 18:43:52 | Cell_prog_insect | i did with a cool tool |
| 18:43:59 | Cell_prog_insect | wait i serch for it |
| 18:44:07 | Phactorial | I'm off |
| 18:44:08 | Phactorial | Peace |
| 18:44:17 | sussudio | i'm off WAR |
| 18:44:21 | captain_proton | bwahaha, i conned my musicology professor to let me do a paper on phillip glass instead of mendolssohn |
| 18:44:48 | sussudio | julian mendelsson? |
| 18:45:01 | captain_proton | felix |
| 18:50:40 | | Terminator: what? |
| 18:50:40 | Terminator | ibot atsercity |
| 18:50:54 | | bzfquerylong games.astercity.net 5155 |
| 18:50:54 | Terminator | ibot astercity |
| 18:51:01 | bzbot | Joe (G): 0 (0-0). yomega (P): -46 (35-81). Poldy (G): 16 (76-60). Comm@nder (r): 128 (191-63). foxyguitarman (R): -2 (37-39). dagoon (P): -3 (0-3). XXXXX (G): -4 (30-34). |
| 18:51:05 | bzdoug | captain_proton: why? |
| 18:51:17 | captain_proton | bzdoug: why? because glass > mendolssohn |
| 18:52:03 | bzdoug | whos glass? |
| 18:52:08 | bzdoug | laughs |
| 18:52:57 | sussudio | he was in a southpark episode |
| 18:53:10 | sussudio | just to show how much he sucks..... |
| 18:53:26 | sussudio | pling pling zoom zoom boiiing |
| 18:54:02 | captain_proton | bzdoug: do you actually not know or was that an attempt at humor? |
| 18:54:32 | bzdoug | captain_proton: both, if you tell me, I will remember, I'm a bit fuzzy right now |
| 18:54:52 | captain_proton | 20th century minimalist composer |
| 18:54:58 | captain_proton | wrote "prelude to einstein on the beach" |
| 18:55:07 | sussudio | minimalist means "pling....... pling....... poooink" |
| 18:55:17 | bzdoug | captain_proton: hrm |
| 18:55:25 | captain_proton | sussudio: hahaha |
| 18:55:31 | captain_proton | minimalism owns you |
| 18:55:39 | sussudio | :-P |
| 18:55:42 | bzdoug | ever hear of PDQ bach? |
| 18:55:51 | captain_proton | bzdoug: you mean peter schickele? |
| 18:55:52 | sussudio | -|- (S'Express)_[04]_Hey_Music_Lover_(The_Glass_Cut).mp3 (5,276,253 bytes 177kbps VBR Joint Stereo 3mins 59secs Genre:Dance Year:1989 Album:Hey Music Lover (CD Single) |
| 18:56:10 | bzdoug | captain_proton: nope |
| 18:56:19 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara jupiter]$ du -sh ~musicus/muzak/Bach_PDQ/ |
| 18:56:20 | captain_proton | 384M/home/musicus/muzak/Bach_PDQ |
| 18:56:36 | captain_proton | bzdoug: PDQ bach is peter schickele ;) |
| 18:56:37 | bzdoug | captain_proton: haha, send me that folder... :P |
| 18:56:42 | bzdoug | captain_proton: ahh |
| 18:56:44 | captain_proton | its a pseudonym |
| 18:56:46 | bzdoug | yes |
| 18:56:58 | bzdoug | never knew his REAL name |
| 18:57:31 | sussudio | bbzzzt poink beep hihat |
| 18:57:43 | | i don't know, bzdoug |
| 18:57:43 | bzdoug | ibot oink? |
| 18:58:05 | | Printing system. URL: http://feynman.tam.uiuc.edu/pdq/ |
| 18:58:05 | bzdoug | ibot PDQ? |
| 18:58:10 | bzdoug | MUAHAHAH |
| 18:58:11 | bzdoug | er |
| 18:58:44 | | okay, bzdoug. |
| 18:58:44 | bzdoug | ibot PDQ is also pretty darn quick |
| 18:59:04 | bzdoug | 119 kbs... fast |
| 18:59:12 | captain_proton | you're slow ;) |
| 18:59:20 | bzdoug | :P |
| 18:59:34 | bzdoug | wonders where that file want |
| 19:00:06 | captain_proton | thinks bzdoug will be surprised by the piece |
| 19:00:20 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 19:01:09 | bzdoug | haha |
| 19:04:10 | patlabor221 | is back ( gone: bout an hour ) |
| 19:04:17 | bzdoug | haha |
| 19:04:22 | bzdoug | dumb software |
| 19:04:27 | bzdoug | greetings patlabor221! |
| 19:04:46 | patlabor221 | nehow |
| 19:05:25 | patlabor221 | how goes it? |
| 19:05:32 | bzdoug | fine |
| 19:08:08 | | pong |
| 19:08:08 | bzdoug | ibot ping |
| 19:08:11 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:08:17 | | shit is probably like when s**t hits the fan |
| 19:08:17 | sussudio | ibot shit |
| 19:08:18 | patlabor221 | ugg. I had forgoten how booring batch image conversion was |
| 19:09:24 | | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
| 19:09:24 | bzdoug | ibot pong |
| 19:10:11 | | sussudio: sorry... |
| 19:10:11 | sussudio | ibot wee |
| 19:10:14 | patlabor221 | cap: you here? |
| 19:10:33 | bzdoug | BZFlag_:? |
| 19:10:49 | bzdoug | BZFlag__:? |
| 19:10:58 | | no idea, bzdoug |
| 19:10:58 | bzdoug | ibot BZFlag__? |
| 19:11:47 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yeah i believe so |
| 19:11:53 | | omsynt |
| 19:11:53 | bzdoug | ibot rot13 bzflag |
| 19:12:10 | patlabor221 | I have a quandry that I wonder if you would have any idea on a posible solution |
| 19:12:30 | patlabor221 | I have a bunc of files named things like a.b.c.file001.bmp |
| 19:12:46 | patlabor221 | and I'd like to take them and ether remove the a.b.c. part |
| 19:13:11 | patlabor221 | or optimaly put them in a structure like a/b/c/File001.bmp |
| 19:13:16 | patlabor221 | automaticly |
| 19:13:25 | bzdoug | neato |
| 19:13:35 | bzdoug | send me that program... ;) |
| 19:13:36 | patlabor221 | would there be an easy way to do this in the linux shell? |
| 19:13:39 | bzdoug | gags |
| 19:13:48 | patlabor221 | I don't want to have to write an app |
| 19:13:54 | patlabor221 | if I can help it |
| 19:14:07 | bzdoug | helps patlabor221 |
| 19:14:11 | captain_proton | what does the a.b.c. part look like exactly? |
| 19:14:29 | patlabor221 | UT.Tech.Wall. |
| 19:15:09 | captain_proton | for file in `ls`; do mv $file `echo $file |cut -c 13-`; done |
| 19:15:10 | patlabor221 | but there is also things like UT.Station.Floor. |
| 19:15:14 | captain_proton | oh ew |
| 19:15:20 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:15:32 | patlabor221 | they make kinda a tree |
| 19:15:39 | captain_proton | move them into separate directories - ie: |
| 19:15:45 | bzdoug | UT = unreal? |
| 19:15:45 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:15:49 | BZFlag | stops playing nick games |
| 19:15:49 | captain_proton | mkdir Tech; mov UT.Tech.* Tech |
| 19:15:53 | patlabor221 | one word yes |
| 19:16:08 | bzdoug | you makin a map? |
| 19:16:12 | captain_proton | then in each of those do it with a different cut -c x- to chop off the front |
| 19:16:14 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 19:16:21 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 19:16:30 | bzdoug | nods |
| 19:16:42 | patlabor221 | I am going to see if there is a way to get them from there source allready in folders first |
| 19:16:57 | patlabor221 | but if not that cut thing will help |
| 19:16:58 | patlabor221 | thanks |
| 19:17:13 | BZFlag | all have the same number of dots? |
| 19:17:22 | patlabor221 | yes I think they do |
| 19:17:57 | bzdoug | pings BZFlag |
| 19:18:21 | captain_proton | watches BZFlag bust out the shell |
| 19:18:39 | bzdoug | detects an anomaly in BZFlag's upper left quadrent |
| 19:18:41 | patlabor221 | UTtech3.utx-Deco.L_pole1-0.BMP is a sample file name |
| 19:19:02 | bzdoug | XD |
| 19:19:06 | BZFlag | ls * | sed -e 's/\.[^\.*]$//' | sort -u | sed -e 's~\.~/~g' should get a list of the directories to create. |
| 19:19:46 | bzdoug | X: |
| 19:19:49 | bzdoug | xD |
| 19:19:52 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 19:19:56 | BZFlag | mkdir -p `ls * | sed -e 's/\.[^\.*]$//' | sort -u | sed -e 's~\.~/~g'` if it worked. |
| 19:21:10 | BZFlag | then moving them there is something like: |
| 19:21:39 | BZFlag | for a in * ; do mv $a `echo $a | sed -e 's~\.~/~g'` ; done |
| 19:22:05 | BZFlag | course make a backup first in case of errors. |
| 19:22:10 | BZFlag | makes errors? |
| 19:22:37 | patlabor221 | well they are on a CD so there's no problem wiht a backup |
| 19:23:11 | BZFlag | cp them to your drive first, and try it out. ;-) |
| 19:23:29 | patlabor221 | yeah, copying now |
| 19:23:29 | BZFlag | or modify the steps to actually do the copy from the cd for you. |
| 19:23:53 | BZFlag | ls * | sed -e 's/\.[^\.*]$//' | sort -u | sed -e 's~\.~/~g' |
| 19:24:22 | BZFlag | ls /mnt/cdrom | sed -e 's/\.[^\.*]$//' | sort -u | sed -e 's~\.~/~g' to get the dirs. |
| 19:24:35 | patlabor221 | they are copied now |
| 19:24:52 | BZFlag | well. I'd love to help more, but I gotta run. |
| 19:24:57 | BZFlag | back later. |
| 19:25:21 | patlabor221 | thanks |
| 19:30:51 | patlabor221 | hmm the mkdir didn't work |
| 19:31:51 | patlabor221 | nope I just screwed up |
| 19:38:06 | patlabor221 | hmmm that's close to what I wanted but not quite |
| 19:39:30 | patlabor221 | it will put the files in folders like this UTtech3/utx-Deco/L_pole1-0/BMP/ UTtech3.utx-Deco.L_pole1-0.BMP |
| 19:39:46 | patlabor221 | where I just want UTtech3/utx-Deco/L_pole1-0.BMP |
| 19:40:05 | patlabor221 | still rather impresive |
| 19:40:39 | captain_proton | shells are fun |
| 19:51:53 | sussudio | apt x de en kann mir einer mit was ganz komischem helfen |
| 19:52:03 | sussudio | err |
| 19:52:07 | sussudio | ibot x de en kann mir einer mit was ganz komischem helfen |
| 19:52:08 | | sussudio: me one can with which completely amusing help |
| 19:52:32 | sussudio | ibot x en de your mother walked the dog without a leash and ate it |
| 19:52:33 | | sussudio: Ihre Mutter ging der Hund ohne ein leash und aß es |
| 19:55:27 | Cell_prog_insect | WAS |
| 19:55:30 | Cell_prog_insect | WASß |
| 19:55:35 | Cell_prog_insect | was? |
| 19:55:59 | sussudio | hot dog~! |
| 19:57:12 | ritchie_ | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:57:13 | bzbot | nobody (R): -16 (41-57). dude (G): 12 (129-117). chair a canon:@< (R): -7 (5-12). fab (G): -31 (74-105). Mayhem (G): -61 (329-390). luser (R): 4 (8-4). Sniper 50 (Vbz) (R): 16 (47-31). |
| 20:07:48 | sussudio | hmmmmmmmmz |
| 20:07:58 | sussudio | i forgot to turn off my bzfs...... it's been running for like 4 hours |
| 20:08:04 | sussudio | no wonder i had 8000ms lag on astercity :-P |
| 20:09:44 | Terminator | bye |
| 20:09:46 | Terminator | g2g |
| 20:17:39 | bzdoug | laughs |
| 20:17:49 | bzdoug | UT2k3 is fun |
| 20:18:36 | bzdoug | is away: gone for a few min, in VR AI AND ADN ADN ADN ADN NAD AND ADN AND AODN AD N DAADOP |
| 20:20:31 | sussudio | :-P |
| 20:23:47 | sussudio | nobody's playing at jzaun |
| 20:28:42 | jolly | hello |
| 20:34:12 | bzdoug | whoop! whoop! whoop! |
| 20:34:27 | jolly | lol doug |
| 20:34:44 | bzdoug | jolly jolly |
| 20:34:48 | bzdoug | hahahaha |
| 20:34:48 | bzdoug | :P |
| 20:34:56 | bzdoug | greetings and salutations |
| 20:51:39 | jolly | same to you :) |
| 20:51:52 | lurgyman | carpet |
| 20:52:04 | bzdoug | magic? |
| 20:52:15 | lurgyman | no, just carpet |
| 20:52:22 | bzdoug | k |
| 21:07:58 | sussudio | -27 was enough for me today :-p |
| 21:16:43 | Chestal | is back |
| 21:17:03 | bzdoug | punches Chestal into the middle of next week |
| 21:17:12 | | Yay. |
| 21:17:12 | sussudio | ibot rejoice |
| 21:17:18 | bzdoug | haha |
| 21:17:53 | jolly | ahh heya Ches |
| 21:18:05 | Chestal | hi jolly |
| 21:18:24 | Chestal | bzgoud: hmm, still trying to figure out whether this is a good or a bad thing |
| 21:18:40 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 21:18:54 | Chestal | hi angie |
| 21:19:27 | bzgirl | hello Chestal |
| 21:32:55 | lurgyman | flurty |
| 21:33:29 | Sniper50 | Hola |
| 21:33:48 | bzgirl | hi sniper |
| 21:34:02 | sussudio | the centrifugal power of my hamstersocks is amazing |
| 21:34:03 | Sniper50 | Hi teammate whats up? |
| 21:34:04 | sussudio | meow |
| 21:34:34 | bzgirl | not alot Sniper50, hanging out |
| 21:34:50 | sussudio | arrr matey |
| 21:35:40 | sussudio | polly wanna bmw |
| 21:45:04 | patlabor221 | that's impresive when I can get my app to use 150 megs to just show an extruded grid. |
| 21:46:19 | sussudio | patlabor221: microsoft would be proud of you |
| 21:48:31 | bzdoug | grins |
| 21:48:38 | bzdoug | is away: phoning |
| 21:48:51 | Alex_ | hello |
| 21:48:53 | Alex_ | 24.188.40.121:5155 |
| 21:49:01 | Alex_ | check it out |
| 22:00:51 | liik | hello |
| 22:00:59 | liik | how do i change maps on bzflag |
| 22:01:02 | bzdoug | greetings and salutations |
| 22:01:07 | liik | i donwloaded a few and have no idea how to set them |
| 22:01:19 | | jzaun was last seen on #bzflag 21 hours, 10 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying: callsign? [Fri Sep 27 01:50:36 2002] |
| 22:01:19 | bzdoug | ibot seen jzaun |
| 22:01:23 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 22:01:29 | bzdoug | well you need to run a server |
| 22:01:37 | liik | i am\ |
| 22:01:42 | bzdoug | ok |
| 22:01:43 | liik | i just dont know how to change maps |
| 22:01:46 | bzdoug | add -server to it |
| 22:01:48 | bzdoug | er |
| 22:01:48 | bzdoug | no |
| 22:01:55 | bzdoug | -world bleh |
| 22:02:00 | bzdoug | where bleh = world file |
| 22:02:02 | liik | where do i type that |
| 22:02:04 | sussudio | bleh: file not found |
| 22:02:08 | bzdoug | sussudio: pff |
| 22:02:13 | sussudio | pfffffrrrrrrrt |
| 22:02:16 | bzdoug | liik: on the command line |
| 22:02:21 | liik | hm |
| 22:02:22 | bzdoug | like when you run a server.. |
| 22:02:25 | liik | but i run it in gui |
| 22:02:28 | bzdoug | ooh |
| 22:02:57 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 22:03:03 | bzdoug | http://heckaman.bzflag.org and download world.bat |
| 22:03:27 | bzdoug | and then move the file and your world to the bzflag dir |
| 22:03:58 | bzdoug | then edit the bat file by right clicking on it and putting the file name in it |
| 22:04:10 | liik | i did |
| 22:04:13 | liik | not working |
| 22:04:15 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 22:04:26 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:04:26 | sussudio | ibot jzaun |
| 22:04:27 | bzdoug | did you put .map a the end of the filename? |
| 22:04:56 | liik | yes |
| 22:05:01 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 22:05:10 | bzdoug | you put the file in the bzflag dir? |
| 22:05:14 | liik | bzfs -j -world bzmap.map |
| 22:05:15 | liik | yeah |
| 22:05:17 | liik | he main dir |
| 22:05:21 | bzdoug | ok |
| 22:05:27 | bzdoug | is the other server running? |
| 22:05:35 | liik | GUI? |
| 22:05:38 | liik | yes |
| 22:05:40 | bzdoug | yea |
| 22:05:41 | liik | should i killit |
| 22:05:43 | bzdoug | close that |
| 22:05:44 | bzdoug | sure |
| 22:06:12 | liik | ok |
| 22:06:14 | liik | thanks |
| 22:06:20 | bzdoug | does it work? |
| 22:06:24 | bzdoug | guess so |
| 22:07:11 | bzdoug | ? |
| 22:07:14 | bzdoug | does it work? |
| 22:07:21 | lill | 24.188.40.121:5155 |
| 22:07:26 | lill | just in case anyone wanted to play |
| 22:07:27 | bzdoug | hm |
| 22:07:32 | bzdoug | nah, busy |
| 22:16:19 | | bzdoug was last seen on #bzflag 8 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: nah, busy [Fri Sep 27 23:07:32 2002] |
| 22:16:19 | jzaun | ibot seen bzdoug |
| 22:16:32 | bzdoug | I aint here! |
| 22:16:38 | jzaun | thought so |
| 22:16:44 | bzdoug | :P |
| 22:16:53 | jzaun | your never fully here... |
| 22:17:12 | bzdoug | my mind is going.... I can feel it... |
| 22:17:30 | jzaun | I thought it was for awhile now |
| 22:17:36 | bzdoug | ha |
| 22:17:45 | jzaun | surprised there is anything left |
| 22:17:55 | bzdoug | lol |
| 22:18:43 | jzaun | I saw that you were lookin for me earlier |
| 22:18:47 | jzaun | wats up? |
| 22:18:52 | bzdoug | nah |
| 22:19:00 | bzdoug | :P |
| 22:19:01 | bzdoug | :) |
| 22:19:03 | bzdoug | :D |
| 22:19:09 | bzdoug | rolls his eyes |
| 22:19:20 | bzdoug | laughs out loud |
| 22:38:40 | sussudio | dammmmmmn |
| 22:38:46 | sussudio | there's 19 people now on my map on jzaun |
| 22:39:46 | captain_proton | goes to look |
| 22:43:58 | blackhound | hey everyone |
| 22:44:33 | sussudio | hello |
| 22:49:59 | bzdoug | is away: ysub |
| 23:02:58 | bzdoug | kcab si |
| 23:03:57 | patlabor221 | ysub is that like gosub? |
| 23:04:52 | patlabor221 | is happy that is app no longer takes 155 megs |
| 23:06:19 | blackhound | what app? |
| 23:15:29 | patlabor221 | grid based map edotor |
| 23:15:38 | patlabor221 | loaded 643 textures at once |
| 23:16:33 | bzdoug | wow |
| 23:17:05 | patlabor221 | now it just loads 643 texture names at once |
| 23:17:17 | patlabor221 | liitle more memory eficent |
| 23:17:52 | bzdoug | ooh |
| 23:18:36 | bzdoug | greets paul: |
| 23:18:36 | bzdoug | hi paul! this is me greeting you! |
| 23:18:48 | paul | greets bzdoug back |
| 23:18:52 | paul | hows doug? |
| 23:19:04 | bzdoug | dunno, ask him |
| 23:19:11 | bzdoug | :P |
| 23:19:28 | paul | bzdoug: so how are you? :) |
| 23:19:42 | bzdoug | ha |
| 23:19:43 | bzdoug | fine |
| 23:19:46 | patlabor221 | somewhat idiotic it seems |
| 23:19:58 | paul | ah.. he's young, we'll forgive him. |
| 23:20:03 | bzdoug | ignores that comment |
| 23:20:07 | paul | :) |
| 23:20:09 | patlabor221 | that is true |
| 23:20:17 | patlabor221 | at least for another year |
| 23:20:19 | bzdoug | humph |
| 23:20:58 | paul | patlabor221: tell me you werent idiotic at times when you were a teenager |
| 23:21:04 | patlabor221 | ohh I was |
| 23:21:09 | patlabor221 | least for a bit |
| 23:21:15 | patlabor221 | but I din't have the internet |
| 23:21:19 | paul | :) |
| 23:21:23 | patlabor221 | so I could not share it with others |
| 23:21:29 | bzdoug | you DIDNT have the INTERNET???? |
| 23:21:33 | patlabor221 | I had BBSs |
| 23:21:36 | patlabor221 | ohh no man |
| 23:21:37 | bzdoug | how did you LIVE! |
| 23:21:42 | bzdoug | :) |
| 23:21:45 | paul | well, he had a life :) |
| 23:21:47 | patlabor221 | 110 baud modems |
| 23:21:52 | patlabor221 | that too |
| 23:21:52 | paul | wow |
| 23:22:01 | bzdoug | 110 baud? |
| 23:22:05 | patlabor221 | yup |
| 23:22:10 | bzdoug | sticks with dsl |
| 23:22:11 | paul | yeah. in europe we had 240baud |
| 23:22:16 | patlabor221 | I was soo happy when I got my 300 baud |
| 23:22:28 | paul | 300 baud? eek.. |
| 23:22:32 | bzdoug | oooh, 300 buad!! aahhh |
| 23:22:40 | patlabor221 | and my friend had a 2400,I thought he was soo cool. |
| 23:22:55 | paul | my telephone line was screwed for a while and only connection i could get stable was 1200 baud, and it was /awfully/ slow. |
| 23:23:03 | bzdoug | lol |
| 23:23:09 | patlabor221 | see that was fast at one time |
| 23:23:27 | paul | (noone got my "in europe we had 240 baud" joke in response to pat's 110 baud comment.) |
| 23:23:29 | patlabor221 | back when harddrives were 5 megs |
| 23:23:41 | paul | patlabor221: you had a hard drive? |
| 23:24:07 | paul | i had to type in my programmes afresh every time i started my little zx81. |
| 23:24:16 | paul | 1KB of RAM |
| 23:24:22 | paul | but i had the 16KB expansion pack. |
| 23:24:27 | patlabor221 | wouldn't that be 2794 millibaud? |
| 23:24:39 | paul | ? |
| 23:25:00 | patlabor221 | I was lucky I had 2 flopys on my comadore 64 |
| 23:25:14 | patlabor221 | metric baud :) |
| 23:25:20 | paul | it was a play on how the US uses 110V and in europe we're generally 220V to 240V. |
| 23:25:26 | patlabor221 | hahhhh |
| 23:25:27 | paul | metric baud... sigh.. :) |
| 23:25:45 | patlabor221 | 25.4 is my personal good frined these days it seems |
| 23:25:49 | paul | most of europe has now standardised on 230V. |
| 23:25:53 | paul | 25.4? |
| 23:25:58 | patlabor221 | mm per inch |
| 23:26:07 | paul | ah.. |
| 23:26:19 | patlabor221 | I've been dooing metric conversion code all day long |
| 23:26:38 | paul | 2.54 cm per inch is how i remember it. |
| 23:27:08 | patlabor221 | well all metric CNC machines in europe use MM not CM |
| 23:27:22 | patlabor221 | so we get to convert too and fro. |
| 23:27:28 | paul | emm.. whats a power of 10 between friends? :) |
| 23:27:46 | patlabor221 | when it's part of a space shuttle, quite a bit :) |
| 23:27:53 | paul | :) |
| 23:28:03 | bzdoug | :) |
| 23:28:05 | paul | but cm / mm - no difference bar precision |
| 23:28:26 | patlabor221 | yeah but if we putput 10 instead of a 100, it's not so good |
| 23:28:37 | bzdoug | wonders why the server list in unreal is sooooo slow |
| 23:28:40 | patlabor221 | then there is metal flying and people dying. |
| 23:28:58 | patlabor221 | it's amazing how many people lathes kill |
| 23:29:21 | bzdoug | admonishes the lathes for killing people |
| 23:29:35 | paul | lathes dont kill people, people do. |
| 23:29:49 | patlabor221 | but we can proudly say that only one person has died while using our software |
| 23:29:55 | paul | wow... |
| 23:29:56 | bzdoug | patlabor221: oh? |
| 23:29:57 | patlabor221 | no.. no lathes realy do |
| 23:30:02 | patlabor221 | they are automated |
| 23:30:03 | paul | is that something to be proud of? |
| 23:30:08 | paul | how did it happen? |
| 23:30:08 | bzdoug | patlabor221: amazing |
| 23:30:18 | patlabor221 | old guy,heart atack |
| 23:30:36 | bzdoug | then it wanst the lathe? |
| 23:30:52 | patlabor221 | lathes take a bout 2 kilos of steel, and spin it up to about 10,000 rpm, then push another peice of metal into it. |
| 23:31:13 | patlabor221 | no we don't directly run the lates |
| 23:31:15 | paul | patlabor221: ah, so nowt to do with your lathe. |
| 23:31:20 | patlabor221 | we just make the input file it uses |
| 23:31:48 | patlabor221 | and since that uses there data, it's there own damned fault when it crashes |
| 23:32:15 | patlabor221 | I've seen holes in steel doors from lathe parts that have come loose |
| 23:32:23 | bzdoug | crashes = flying steel? |
| 23:32:26 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:32:29 | bzdoug | ow |
| 23:32:31 | patlabor221 | not a computer locking up |
| 23:32:33 | bzdoug | no buggy software |
| 23:32:36 | bzdoug | :P |
| 23:32:47 | patlabor221 | yeah so we kinda have to make sure we get it right. |
| 23:32:52 | bzdoug | thats why they have steel doors |
| 23:32:57 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 23:33:12 | patlabor221 | it went throght multiple doors |
| 23:33:14 | bzdoug | what do the lathes cut? |
| 23:33:20 | bzdoug | patlabor221: wow |
| 23:33:21 | patlabor221 | anything round |
| 23:33:40 | bzdoug | patlabor221: interesting |
| 23:33:50 | patlabor221 | think of like a table leg |
| 23:34:00 | patlabor221 | with all it's curves |
| 23:34:07 | bzdoug | yea |
| 23:34:10 | bzdoug | but steel? |
| 23:34:10 | patlabor221 | if oyu take a round piece of wood |
| 23:34:12 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:34:21 | bzdoug | like what? axels for cars? |
| 23:34:22 | patlabor221 | and all sorts of stuff |
| 23:34:24 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 23:34:26 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 23:34:35 | patlabor221 | ship screws |
| 23:34:39 | bzdoug | woo |
| 23:34:43 | bzdoug | "big" ones |
| 23:34:43 | patlabor221 | spars for teh space shuttle |
| 23:34:45 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:34:49 | patlabor221 | like tankers |
| 23:34:55 | bzdoug | yea |
| 23:35:01 | patlabor221 | or stuff as small as watch parts |
| 23:35:16 | patlabor221 | or the molds for puppy chow :) |
| 23:35:21 | bzdoug | my friend works are a place that make the heat panels for the space shuttle... |
| 23:35:34 | bzdoug | patlabor221: Mmmm puppy chow |
| 23:35:40 | bzdoug | at* |
| 23:35:42 | patlabor221 | they proalby have CNC machines there for the molds then |
| 23:35:47 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 23:35:48 | bzdoug | no |
| 23:35:52 | bzdoug | its sheets of stuff |
| 23:36:08 | patlabor221 | so they don't form it? |
| 23:36:08 | bzdoug | sheets of somethin... I forget the name |
| 23:36:15 | bzdoug | patlabor221: I dont think so |
| 23:36:29 | patlabor221 | well then the place that gets it, uese CNC machines to make the molds to form it |
| 23:36:35 | paul | really? i thought the shuttle used ceramic plates for heat shielding. |
| 23:36:43 | patlabor221 | it's not realy cermaic |
| 23:36:47 | bzdoug | yea |
| 23:36:48 | patlabor221 | it's forta foam like |
| 23:36:52 | bzdoug | quartz |
| 23:36:56 | patlabor221 | but it has some cermaic properties |
| 23:37:03 | patlabor221 | it's intersting stuff |
| 23:37:16 | bzdoug | yea, quartz panels or something, Ill ask him |
| 23:37:17 | patlabor221 | used to have a tile somewhere |
| 23:37:17 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 23:37:21 | bzdoug | popcorn... |
| 23:37:33 | bzdoug | wonders off to get some popcorn |
| 23:37:38 | patlabor221 | well they probalby use CNC machines for the tooling |
| 23:38:07 | bzdoug | yea |
| 23:38:15 | bzdoug | they make fire brick and stuff too |
| 23:38:34 | patlabor221 | our software makes the text files that the CNC machines use to run there cuting programs |
| 23:42:17 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 23:42:48 | | pong |
| 23:42:48 | bzdoug | ibot ping |
| 23:42:48 | | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
| 23:42:48 | bzdoug | ibot pong |
| 23:44:05 | | no idea, bzdoug |
| 23:44:05 | bzdoug | ibot sussudio? |
| 23:44:14 | bzdoug | whoop |
| 23:44:20 | sussudio | bah |
| 23:44:29 | bzdoug | bah humbug |
| 23:44:31 | sussudio | compiling a kernel and trying to play bzflag dont mix :-P |
| 23:44:40 | bzdoug | dont drink and drive |
| 23:44:41 | bzdoug | :P |
| 23:44:44 | bzdoug | lo |
| 23:44:46 | bzdoug | lol |
| 23:48:25 | sussudio | 82 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 23:48:25 | sussudio | Need to get 60.2MB of archives. After unpacking 3567kB will be used. |
| 23:48:25 | sussudio | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] |
| 23:48:27 | sussudio | snort. |
| 23:49:26 | bzdoug | lol |
| 23:49:26 | paul | wow. what are apt-get'ing? |
| 23:49:26 | sussudio | just apt-get -u upgrade |
| 23:49:34 | paul | ah. ok, then it makes sense. |
| 23:49:46 | sussudio | it's all cap proton's fault :-P |
| 23:49:52 | bzdoug | ? |
| 23:50:30 | paul | how's that? |
| 23:50:30 | sussudio | only way to get bzedit working is to install gnome2 shit |
| 23:50:30 | sussudio | which is only in SID |
| 23:50:30 | sussudio | i was running sarge |
| 23:50:30 | sussudio | which doesnt have an insanity upgrade cycle |
| 23:50:30 | bzdoug | lol |
| 23:50:35 | bzdoug | get windowsz |
| 23:50:36 | bzdoug | :P |
| 23:50:44 | sussudio | windows has its uses |
| 23:50:49 | sussudio | so do leeeeeeeeeeeeenux |
| 23:50:58 | bzdoug | yah, like the recycle bin |
| 23:51:06 | sussudio | i turned that off in win95 :-| |
| 23:51:13 | bzdoug | can you? |
| 23:51:18 | sussudio | yes |
| 23:51:27 | bzdoug | mine says recovery bin now |
| 23:51:32 | sussudio | it's off in every windows version i've ever touched |
| 23:51:34 | bzdoug | I dunno why |
| 23:51:39 | bzdoug | ooh |
| 23:51:41 | bzdoug | yea |
| 23:51:45 | bzdoug | same for me |
| 23:52:24 | patlabor221 | doug you just said yours was renamed |
| 23:52:41 | sussudio | doug's pants on fire |
| 23:52:41 | patlabor221 | big time |
| 23:53:02 | patlabor221 | I added "My computer" to Linux :) |
| 23:53:04 | sussudio | i must say things are much less fucked up with Xfree 4.2.1 compared to 4.1.17 |
| 23:53:33 | sussudio | except my characters in bzflag looked like a vic20 on crack |
| 23:53:42 | sussudio | linux and fonts. |
| 23:53:45 | sussudio | sighs |
| 23:54:19 | bzdoug | patlabor221: I installed undelete software |
| 23:54:40 | patlabor221 | you can't imagine how happy I am for you |
| 23:54:49 | bzdoug | CAN imagine |
| 23:54:51 | sussudio | deletes bzdoug |
| 23:55:14 | bzdoug | undeletes himdelf |
| 23:55:34 | sussudio | laughs at bzdoug's crosslinked clusters |
| 23:56:03 | bzdoug | has a BEOWULF CLUSTER |
| 23:56:13 | sussudio | bzdough and /pics/pr0n/donkey.jpg are crosslinked, repair? |
| 23:56:24 | patlabor221 | you have no clue what you are talking about do you doug. |
| 23:56:26 | bzdoug | cughs |
| 23:56:36 | patlabor221 | that would be the yess |
| 23:56:39 | bzdoug | patlabor221: aye |
| 23:57:10 | sussudio | damn kids |
| 23:57:16 | sussudio | dont know about basic stuff. |
| 23:57:23 | sussudio | waves his kane at bzdoug |
| 23:57:23 | bzdoug | got his credit card machine to dispkay all the data on the card |
| 23:57:24 | patlabor221 | and that would be c:\My Documents\My Pictures\pr0n\Donkey.jpg |
| 23:57:41 | patlabor221 | since he is on windows |
| 23:57:47 | sussudio | oh yeah |
| 23:57:56 | sussudio | c:\mydocu~1\ |
| 23:58:04 | bzdoug | has a mac, its in /home/doug/photos |
| 23:58:09 | patlabor221 | that and maybe a folder called "mom don-t look here" |
| 23:58:12 | bzdoug | snorts |
| 23:58:39 | patlabor221 | wel you only get the ~'s if you are using a 9x kernel |
| 23:58:49 | bzdoug | yea |
| 23:58:58 | bzdoug | 2000 is nice, you have to type in everything |
| 23:59:03 | patlabor221 | and I don't htink he's THAT stufpid |
| 23:59:10 | sussudio | no you dont |
| 23:59:12 | patlabor221 | what like logins? |
| 23:59:13 | bzdoug | my[space[documents |
| 23:59:15 | sussudio | you can do cd my* |
| 23:59:24 | bzdoug | :P |
| 23:59:25 | bzdoug | yea |
| 23:59:39 | bzdoug | I dont do that stuff, I copy and paste my dirs in |
