| 00:21:41 | captain_proton | <warezd00d> anyone know the serial for bzflag? <-- strange |
| 00:24:11 | captain_proton | thats funny |
| 00:24:25 | captain_proton | anxiously awaits warezd00d's return |
| 00:39:53 | jzaun | I really hate when bzfs core dumps |
| 00:40:55 | captain_proton | ever debugged it on the core file - see where it dumps? |
| 00:47:52 | BZFlag | captain_proton: there was a limited release years ago for windows that needed a serial number. |
| 00:48:06 | BZFlag | the guy must have a 4 year old version of the game. |
| 00:48:30 | BZFlag | you should point him to the new "cracked" version on http://BZFlag.org/ ;-) |
| 00:50:42 | captain_proton | snickers |
| 00:51:12 | captain_proton | hmm, thats not 4 years old |
| 00:51:15 | captain_proton | thats 6 years old |
| 01:13:55 | captain_proton | prisoner time |
| 02:09:02 | sussudio | The humble proton, an atomic particle with mysteries long thought solved, turns out to have a hidden secret, scientists report. |
| 02:09:17 | sussudio | hah! |
| 02:09:47 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-09-26 02:38:28 | The Best of Windows Open Source Software? | Bell Labs fires Hendrik Schon for Data Falsification | Engineer in a Box? | Apple Releases Rendezvous As Open Source |
| 02:09:47 | sussudio | ibot slashdot |
| 02:10:00 | sussudio | hm |
| 02:14:33 | captain_proton | hmm, truncated dutch :) |
| 02:14:40 | captain_proton | my roommate wants to move to netherland |
| 02:14:53 | sussudio | why |
| 02:15:50 | captain_proton | he meant 'nederland' (a small town here) |
| 02:17:56 | sussudio | well there's a shithole called 'america' about 100 miles away but i dont feel the urge to move there |
| 02:18:06 | captain_proton | 100? |
| 02:18:12 | sussudio | yeah about |
| 02:18:39 | captain_proton | ohh town called america? |
| 02:18:48 | sussudio | well 2 cows and a church more like it |
| 02:19:07 | captain_proton | where are you in holland? |
| 02:19:17 | sussudio | here |
| 02:19:33 | captain_proton | what town? my roommate may have been there and wants to know |
| 02:19:44 | sussudio | its not a town its a city |
| 02:19:52 | captain_proton | you have cities there? |
| 02:19:54 | captain_proton | ok, what city? |
| 02:19:59 | sussudio | :-P |
| 02:20:14 | sussudio | you've heard of it... the bloody hague |
| 02:21:20 | captain_proton | hmm, my roommate hasn't been to the bloody hague |
| 02:21:48 | sussudio | ...FSF Issues GNU/Linux Name FAQ |
| 02:21:53 | captain_proton | haha |
| 02:21:55 | sussudio | why are there 1259 friggin comments on that |
| 02:22:01 | captain_proton | RMS: GNU/Linux |
| 02:22:04 | captain_proton | the world: Linux |
| 02:24:42 | sussudio | well it could be worse.... they could have named it ogg vorbis |
| 02:25:51 | captain_proton | um, what? |
| 02:26:21 | sussudio | ogg vorbis = stupid name |
| 02:26:38 | captain_proton | how about ogg tarkin? |
| 02:26:48 | captain_proton | or ogg theora? :) |
| 02:26:50 | sussudio | ogg smash heads |
| 02:35:21 | captain_proton | argg, where is patlabor? |
| 02:36:29 | sussudio | doing microsoft community service? |
| 02:43:06 | captain_proton | he must be on MS's new FUD team |
| 02:43:43 | scanline | is back (gone 08:00:58) |
| 02:44:47 | sussudio | it's required if you clicked one of their new EULAs |
| 02:46:07 | captain_proton | you hear? they're going to use their MVP's as a community to fight linux "by providing a better product" - i'm not quite sure how community and product quality are related in a closed house, but Ballmer must |
| 02:49:53 | sussudio | been there, replied to it. got the shirt. |
| 02:50:40 | captain_proton | oh yeah, you're one of the silly slashdot kiddies who replies to things |
| 02:52:11 | sussudio | poo. at least i got the shirt. |
| 02:58:31 | sussudio1 | opn beatch servers |
| 04:00:52 | Phactorial | hahaha |
| 04:11:13 | captain_proton | Phactorial: sup biotch |
| 04:11:59 | Phactorial | Hey captain_proton |
| 04:12:05 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Hrm... |
| 04:12:24 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Tell me, /dev for input, /proc for status information...sound good? or ghey? |
| 04:12:42 | captain_proton | /tmp for input, /lib for status |
| 04:12:50 | Phactorial | captain_proton: You mumbling fool |
| 04:13:21 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I am working on a kernel module that allows ruleset integration into Linux's system call table...now... |
| 04:13:45 | captain_proton | ruleset...like RBAC? |
| 04:13:55 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I was thinking of having the module have a psuedo block device at /dev (it will read ruleset "objects" of static size, and add/remove rules based on that) |
| 04:14:09 | Phactorial | captain_proton: a user can get status information about it from a proc file |
| 04:14:48 | Phactorial | captain_proton: System call policies (block access based on user, remote/local status, arguments, redirect access, change execution environment, etc...) |
| 04:15:00 | captain_proton | sounds reasonable |
| 04:15:59 | Phactorial | captain_proton: The only problem if I revert to a block-based device, then the users will be dependent on a user-space tool to convert their rulesets template to the LKMs (which is in binary, for obvious reasons) |
| 04:16:10 | Phactorial | captain_proton: BUT: That is not a problem |
| 04:16:28 | Phactorial | captain_proton: It was just that I was left in there wondering what to pick, choices, choices |
| 04:17:00 | captain_proton | i'd say just have a binary interface and a user-space tool |
| 04:17:08 | captain_proton | no reason to bloat the kernel more with parsing code, etc |
| 04:21:18 | captain_proton | is the open-source vmware 'bochs' ? |
| 04:22:24 | Phactorial | Yes |
| 04:22:29 | Phactorial | nods |
| 04:22:37 | Phactorial | That was the main reason to go with a blocks-based binary interface |
| 04:22:46 | Phactorial | Generally, no parsing at all (to the minimal) |
| 04:23:01 | Phactorial | I will still have a status file in /proc though (to check the current ruleset) |
| 04:24:43 | captain_proton | decides to start in on the C++ kernel |
| 04:25:56 | Phactorial | You are actually going on with it? |
| 04:26:41 | captain_proton | hopefully |
| 04:31:57 | captain_proton | pokes scanline |
| 04:36:43 | captain_proton | bochs != working |
| 04:37:04 | Phactorial | It works |
| 04:37:10 | Phactorial | I used it for ROSE |
| 04:37:21 | Phactorial | If you are looking into using another OS, go ahead |
| 04:37:32 | Phactorial | Though remember: bochs = emulator |
| 04:37:42 | Phactorial | vmware = "layer" |
| 04:37:49 | Phactorial | heh |
| 04:37:58 | Phactorial | Meaning |
| 04:38:03 | Phactorial | on x86: vmware > bochs |
| 04:39:23 | Phactorial | I'm off |
| 04:39:28 | Phactorial | See you later captain_proton ;) |
| 04:41:44 | captain_proton | scanline: i needs you |
| 04:41:56 | scanline | eh? |
| 04:42:04 | scanline | is being occasionally awake right now.. |
| 04:42:32 | scanline | I should take a shower and get some food |
| 04:42:57 | scanline | captain_proton: what you need? |
| 04:43:03 | captain_proton | that vmware key could come in useful for writing my C++ kernel |
| 04:43:14 | scanline | oh |
| 04:43:49 | scanline | oh wait.. that's the old one |
| 04:43:52 | scanline | rummages |
| 04:45:53 | scanline | I think this is it |
| 04:46:07 | captain_proton | 3.0? |
| 04:46:24 | scanline | nods |
| 04:46:49 | scanline | I think it works on other 3.x versions too |
| 04:47:03 | captain_proton | k |
| 04:47:19 | scanline | yeah.. I have 3.1 installed |
| 04:48:29 | captain_proton | hmm vmmon is building an empty module |
| 04:57:42 | captain_proton | aarrgh |
| 04:59:16 | Phactorial | Back |
| 04:59:20 | Phactorial | I realized I have nothing else to do |
| 05:01:39 | captain_proton | figure out why vmmon.o isn't building right |
| 05:02:56 | Phactorial | No thanks |
| 05:04:16 | captain_proton | aha, no devfs_register |
| 05:11:15 | lurgyman | hoody doody doo |
| 05:11:24 | lurgyman | nasm |
| 05:11:30 | lurgyman | yay! |
| 05:12:07 | | i am the best bot in #bzflag |
| 05:12:07 | lurgyman | ibot: who are you? |
| 05:12:15 | | lurgyman: i'm not following you... |
| 05:12:15 | lurgyman | ibot: hilarious |
| 05:12:29 | lurgyman | bzbot: who's da man? |
| 05:12:35 | lurgyman | oh, right |
| 05:12:35 | | isn't it though... |
| 05:12:35 | captain_proton | ibot: hilarious |
| 05:14:46 | | i haven't a clue, lurgyman |
| 05:14:46 | lurgyman | ibot: so, how 'bout that lurgyman? |
| 05:14:57 | | somebody said lurgyman was a llama |
| 05:14:57 | lurgyman | ibot: who is lurgyman? |
| 05:15:13 | | bugger all, i dunno, lurgyman |
| 05:15:13 | lurgyman | ibot: what is a llama? |
| 05:15:28 | | hmmm... god's brother is jim |
| 05:15:28 | lurgyman | ibot: who is god's brother? |
| 05:19:41 | captain_proton | tries to figure out why Phactorial's code isn't working no more |
| 05:20:45 | | a llama is the incarnation of god on earth |
| 05:20:45 | lurgyman | ibot: what is a llama? |
| 05:23:32 | captain_proton | dithers |
| 05:23:59 | lurgyman | you know what else dithers? cardboard socks |
| 05:24:45 | | a llama on crack is probably scanline |
| 05:24:45 | lurgyman | ibot: what's a llama on crack? |
| 05:25:02 | lurgyman | though so |
| 06:24:48 | captain_proton | slaps Phactorial with a wet llama |
| 06:26:27 | Phactorial | slaps captain_proton with a wet towel |
| 06:27:14 | captain_proton | Phactorial: you had code to load a kernel? |
| 06:28:41 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Yes |
| 06:28:47 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Want it? |
| 06:29:08 | Phactorial | captain_proton: The kernel has to jump into pmode... |
| 06:29:19 | Phactorial | captain_proton: My bootloader will boot it while in real mode |
| 06:29:29 | captain_proton | yeah i want :) |
| 06:30:25 | Phactorial | omg |
| 06:30:26 | Phactorial | wtf |
| 06:30:26 | Phactorial | Hold up |
| 06:32:03 | Phactorial | OMG |
| 06:32:11 | Phactorial | Please do not tell me I wiped it |
| 06:32:45 | Phactorial | omg omg omg omg |
| 06:33:28 | Phactorial | The new ROSE bootstrap code is incomplete |
| 06:33:36 | Phactorial | The old revision was the complete version |
| 06:33:39 | Phactorial | Let me just find it |
| 06:34:34 | Phactorial | Blah |
| 06:34:41 | Phactorial | I need to get the old revision from my friend |
| 06:35:08 | captain_proton | frowns |
| 06:35:15 | Phactorial | man |
| 06:35:21 | Phactorial | Damn |
| 06:36:08 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Hrm...I am frowning even more...trust me |
| 06:36:17 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Let me rewrite it now |
| 06:36:24 | Phactorial | goes to rewrite |
| 06:36:33 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:37:02 | scanline | d00d, why not bootstrap in c++ too? |
| 06:37:18 | Phactorial | scanline: Bootstrap with C++? |
| 06:37:23 | Phactorial | scanline: Not possible... |
| 06:37:26 | scanline | just need to fit that OS class constructor in 512 bytes, right :) |
| 06:37:32 | scanline | I know, I wasn't being serious |
| 06:37:35 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 06:37:48 | Phactorial | scanline: lol |
| 06:37:53 | Phactorial | scanline: Then...that was funny :) |
| 06:37:54 | captain_proton | hmm, it might be possible... :) |
| 06:38:14 | scanline | Helpful Hint of the Day: scanline only uses leet-speak in sarcasm |
| 06:42:14 | Phactorial | brb |
| 06:42:19 | Phactorial | lol |
| 06:42:28 | Phactorial | captain_proton: No it isn't |
| 06:43:08 | scanline | thinks captain_proton should burn libstdc++.so into his BIOS |
| 06:43:50 | captain_proton | scanline: you know it |
| 06:44:10 | scanline | has food on the way |
| 06:44:17 | scanline | is hungry... |
| 06:48:26 | Phactorial | Back |
| 06:48:27 | Phactorial | Ok |
| 06:48:29 | Phactorial | Let me write |
| 06:49:15 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Floppy-based |
| 06:50:19 | captain_proton | righto |
| 06:53:36 | bomber_ | moin |
| 06:53:55 | bomber_ | hi Pinguin |
| 06:56:23 | Pinguin | he bomber ... long time no see ... |
| 06:57:19 | Pinguin | wo warst Du? |
| 06:58:21 | Pinguin | ... wohin bist Du wieder weg? |
| 06:59:53 | bomber_ | election...zu Hause |
| 07:00:02 | Pinguin | Oha ... ein weiter weg ... |
| 07:00:13 | bomber_ | gestern bin ich gekommen |
| 07:00:18 | Pinguin | achso ... |
| 07:00:31 | bomber_ | wann gehen wir billiard spielen ? |
| 07:00:36 | Pinguin | Ratzinger hat bei mir angerufen! |
| 07:00:44 | bomber_ | heh |
| 07:00:57 | bomber_ | ich wurde dort krank |
| 07:01:11 | Pinguin | ich werde hier auch krank ... |
| 07:01:13 | bomber_ | hat er schon auch mit martina gesprochen |
| 07:01:21 | Pinguin | keine Ahnung ... |
| 07:01:23 | bomber_ | warum? |
| 07:01:25 | captain_proton | pretty... |
| 07:01:26 | captain_proton | 001001ac A __bss_start |
| 07:01:26 | captain_proton | 001001ac A _edata |
| 07:01:26 | captain_proton | 001001b0 A _end |
| 07:01:26 | captain_proton | 00100080 T _start |
| 07:01:26 | captain_proton | 00100094 T main |
| 07:01:27 | captain_proton | 001001ac B oldebp |
| 07:01:37 | Pinguin | warum ich keine Ahnung habe? Das ist halt so ... |
| 07:01:43 | bomber_ | nein |
| 07:01:57 | bomber_ | warum du krank wirst |
| 07:02:05 | Pinguin | SCHOTTKY-DIODEN!!! |
| 07:02:14 | | Pinguin is probably playing with webcams |
| 07:02:14 | bomber_ | ibot Pinguin |
| 07:02:15 | Pinguin | psychisch krank! |
| 07:02:30 | Pinguin | apropos: neuer Treiber ... viel besser! |
| 07:02:33 | bomber_ | kopf hoch |
| 07:02:47 | bomber_ | :o))) |
| 07:02:54 | Phactorial | English please |
| 07:03:00 | Pinguin | Ohne Luftbrücke habe ich jetzt etwa 10Ohm und ein n von 1.15 ... garnicht so schlecht ... |
| 07:03:06 | Pinguin | ups ... sorry ... |
| 07:03:14 | captain_proton | Phactorial: not farsi? |
| 07:03:29 | bomber_ | ibot x de en Ohne Luftbrücke habe ich jetzt etwa 10Ohm und ein n von 1.15 ... garnicht so schlecht ... |
| 07:04:10 | bomber_ | i have to go......:o)..cu later |
| 07:04:49 | | bomber_: :( |
| 07:06:56 | Pinguin | brb |
| 07:07:40 | Phactorial | captain_proton: No |
| 07:08:31 | Phactorial | I am off |
| 07:08:43 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Hrm...should I just send what I wrote till now? |
| 07:09:59 | Phactorial | captain_proton: ... |
| 07:10:02 | Phactorial | Fine, I won't |
| 07:10:17 | captain_proton | what do you have till now? |
| 07:11:29 | Phactorial | Write the bootloader to an fd, it will load the next sector (your kernel) |
| 07:11:37 | Phactorial | I am writing my I/O routines now |
| 07:11:47 | Phactorial | BIOS getch/putstr |
| 07:12:33 | Phactorial | teletype |
| 07:12:50 | captain_proton | if it will load the next sector send away |
| 07:12:52 | Phactorial | I was going to write a color printer instead for pretification, should I do so? |
| 07:12:55 | Phactorial | Ok |
| 07:12:58 | captain_proton | i've got my own I/O routines |
| 07:13:50 | Phactorial | Not for the bootsector |
| 07:14:00 | Phactorial | I am going to expand this today |
| 07:14:04 | Phactorial | I'm having fun widit |
| 07:16:15 | Phactorial | Hrm... |
| 07:16:23 | Phactorial | Damn ugly munge |
| 07:19:40 | Phactorial | blah |
| 07:19:43 | Phactorial | Mozilla sucks |
| 07:19:45 | Phactorial | captain_proton: dcc? |
| 07:20:19 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I warn you, it is not fully commented |
| 07:21:11 | Phactorial | That one works :) |
| 07:21:37 | Phactorial | I am off |
| 07:21:38 | Phactorial | Peace |
| 07:36:26 | bomber_ | Pinguin? |
| 07:36:41 | bomber_ | new drivers ? |
| 08:05:18 | Pinguin | back ... |
| 08:05:34 | Pinguin | yuppa ... i send you a bzmessage ... did you receive it? |
| 08:06:36 | Pinguin | Pinguin believes that he has some communication difficulties with bomber ... |
| 08:14:13 | bomber_ | nein |
| 08:14:16 | bomber_ | no |
| 08:14:23 | Pinguin | oha ... |
| 08:14:37 | Pinguin | ill send you the file ... |
| 08:14:52 | bomber_ | for what ? |
| 08:15:01 | Pinguin | new drivers for the webcam ... |
| 08:15:16 | Pinguin | take them ... |
| 08:15:59 | Pinguin | OK ... these driver is faster!!! |
| 08:16:04 | bomber_ | ok |
| 08:16:12 | Pinguin | already compiled? |
| 08:16:53 | bomber_ | no |
| 08:16:58 | Pinguin | and now? |
| 08:17:02 | bomber_ | no |
| 08:17:08 | Pinguin | ... and now= |
| 08:17:14 | bomber_ | i have something to do...later |
| 08:17:17 | bomber_ | :o)) |
| 08:17:25 | Pinguin | ??? you are kidding me ... |
| 08:17:38 | | Pinguin is nothing but a beef-witted half-mouthful of goatish dung. |
| 08:17:38 | bomber_ | ibot insult Pinguin |
| 08:17:40 | Pinguin | which server? |
| 08:21:43 | bomber_ | many errors |
| 08:24:57 | Pinguin | compiling? |
| 08:25:28 | Pinguin | probably the same as in the old driver .... linux-source-dir ... and CC=kgcc .... |
| 08:26:21 | Pinguin | Makefiles make the world go round ... |
| 08:31:38 | bomber_ | fertig |
| 08:32:06 | | bomber is hard working man :o) |
| 08:32:06 | Pinguin | ibot bomber? |
| 08:32:10 | Pinguin | hahahahaha |
| 08:32:14 | Pinguin | very funny |
| 08:34:17 | | bomber is a plane dropping explosives |
| 08:34:17 | Pinguin | ibot bomber |
| 08:34:20 | Pinguin | better! |
| 08:35:58 | Pinguin | Anyone knows how to enhance concentration? |
| 08:36:58 | bomber_ | jump from 10th floor :o) |
| 08:37:11 | Pinguin | thx ... |
| 08:37:24 | bomber_ | :o))))))))) |
| 08:37:31 | Pinguin | into the balcony of a beautifull lady in the 9th floor? |
| 08:37:49 | bomber_ | maybe...but maybe not |
| 08:38:15 | Pinguin | a true politician |
| 08:39:15 | bomber_ | what about lunch |
| 08:39:35 | | pinguin: bugger all, i dunno |
| 08:39:35 | Pinguin | ibot lunch? |
| 08:39:39 | Pinguin | hm .. |
| 08:40:20 | | bugger all, i dunno, pinguin |
| 08:40:20 | Pinguin | ibot lunch? |
| 08:40:24 | Pinguin | Hm ... |
| 08:40:58 | Pinguin | bomber ... you have to ask ibot! |
| 08:41:49 | bomber_ | he??? |
| 08:42:14 | Pinguin | ask him for lunch |
| 08:42:27 | bomber_ | what have i to do after compilation ? |
| 08:42:33 | | lunch is a nightmare in the Mensa |
| 08:42:33 | bomber_ | ibot lunch |
| 08:42:39 | bomber_ | hehe |
| 08:42:57 | Pinguin | copy the files somewhere ... |
| 08:43:10 | Pinguin | maybo into /lib/modules/<kernel>/misc? |
| 08:44:11 | Pinguin | make a depmod -a after it ... |
| 08:44:52 | Pinguin | ah ... and maybe an entry in the /etc/modules.conf ... for autoloading on demand ... |
| 08:45:34 | Pinguin | but right now i have no idea how this should look like ... |
| 08:48:01 | Pinguin | i force myself to do some work ... but i simply cant concentrate ... maybe coffe can help ... |
| 08:49:15 | Pinguin | i should take a bath in coffee ... |
| 12:01:50 | blackhound | hey |
| 12:02:41 | blackhound | good morning |
| 12:02:43 | Chestal | hi bh |
| 12:03:31 | blackhound | how is it going? |
| 12:06:20 | Chestal | not too bad |
| 12:08:00 | blackhound | good |
| 12:13:52 | bzdoug | coughs |
| 12:14:50 | bzdoug | ibot message for captain_proton: when you "fixed" LaserCTF, the teleports are now too tall to be entered, lower the teleports by 0.01 and it should work |
| 12:22:05 | blackhound | bbl |
| 14:09:18 | Terminator | hi all |
| 14:14:09 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:14:09 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 14:14:11 | bzbot | root (G): 1 (2-1). Uilos (R): 1 (43-42). mrplow (R): -1 (69-70). Jon (R): 0 (0-0). rrrado (R): -8 (30-38). Zwei (G): 8 (65-57). CAYTCHEN (G): -9 (6-15). |
| 14:17:05 | bzdougg | ooh, xchat for windows! |
| 14:38:25 | scanline | is away: "breakfast" |
| 15:00:06 | scanline | is back (gone 00:21:41) |
| 15:03:27 | Terminator | scanline |
| 15:03:42 | Terminator | do u have UT2003 demo |
| 15:03:56 | Terminator | becuz i think i saw u playing it once |
| 15:04:05 | Terminator | sumone had the name scanline |
| 15:04:21 | scanline | explodes upon Terminator's grammar impact |
| 15:04:40 | Terminator | wants scanline to say yes or no |
| 15:04:55 | scanline | is exploded, therefore can't answer |
| 15:05:11 | Terminator | figures out the answer must be yes |
| 15:05:19 | scanline | why's that? |
| 15:05:32 | Terminator | why's what? |
| 15:05:42 | scanline | why did I explode? |
| 15:05:45 | scanline | picks up the rest of his pieces |
| 15:06:06 | Terminator | thinks scanline is acting a little bit loopy |
| 15:06:12 | Terminator | hmm |
| 15:06:21 | Terminator | mirc can read my mind |
| 15:06:24 | Terminator | lol |
| 15:06:26 | scanline | injects a SCSI Loop into Terminator |
| 15:06:33 | scanline | yuck, mirc? |
| 15:06:46 | Terminator | what is wrong eith mirc |
| 15:06:53 | Terminator | what do u use? |
| 15:06:55 | scanline | it's for windows, and it has a crappy UI |
| 15:07:05 | scanline | MDI in an IRC client is not good |
| 15:07:16 | scanline | I don't know what "u" is, but I use x-chat |
| 15:07:18 | Terminator | windows of course is the best os |
| 15:07:37 | Terminator | better than all types of linux and unix |
| 15:07:41 | scanline | windows isn't even an OS.. it's a web browser and file manager that might have a kernel buried in it somewhere |
| 15:08:05 | Terminator | oh shut up |
| 15:08:09 | bzdoug | get xchat for windows |
| 15:08:20 | bzdoug | is away: shcool |
| 15:08:23 | Terminator | where can i get that |
| 15:08:32 | bzdoug | google for it |
| 15:08:37 | Terminator | ok |
| 15:08:50 | Terminator | i have come back from school |
| 15:09:02 | Terminator | over an hour ago |
| 15:09:04 | Terminator | lol |
| 15:09:14 | scanline | it's not that funny... |
| 15:09:31 | Terminator | hi bomber |
| 15:09:36 | bomber | hi |
| 15:10:24 | bomber | Pinguin ..? |
| 15:10:53 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:10:53 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:10:53 | bzbot | Jon (G): -14 (35-49). luc (R): 0 (2-2). CheezWhiz (G): -24 (45-69). [dmp] (G): 27 (85-58). nobody (R): -30 (42-72). calico (R): 8 (45-37). root (R): 14 (53-39). |
| 15:12:45 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:12:45 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:12:46 | bzbot | root (G): 0 (2-2). luc (R): -1 (5-6). calico (G): 1 (1-0). [dmp] (G): 28 (88-60). Terminator (R): 0 (1-1). |
| 15:17:51 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:17:51 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:17:51 | bzbot | calico (R): 2 (2-0). [dmp] (G): 28 (98-70). Terminator (R): -1 (10-11). |
| 15:30:58 | bzdougg | xchat for windowz |
| 15:31:31 | bzdougg | ha, see the topic... |
| 15:31:46 | Terminator | hmm brb i am just gonna try xchat |
| 15:31:59 | bzdoug | <warezd00d> anyone know the serial for bzflag? |
| 15:32:02 | bzdoug | :P |
| 15:32:16 | bzdoug | ibot x en de school |
| 15:32:17 | | bzdoug: Schule |
| 15:32:28 | bzdoug | is away: Schule |
| 15:33:17 | Nnamdi | hi all |
| 15:33:24 | Nnamdi | whoops |
| 15:33:25 | jzaun | hi |
| 15:33:26 | Nnamdi | brb |
| 15:35:16 | Terminator | hi all |
| 15:35:25 | Terminator | i am using xchat now |
| 15:35:54 | Terminator | dosent seem to be much different to mirc |
| 15:36:24 | jzaun | no know virii travel trew xchat |
| 15:36:34 | Terminator | huh? |
| 15:36:35 | jzaun | afew are known to travel threw mirc |
| 15:37:04 | Terminator | how do you talk to one person using xchat? |
| 15:37:35 | jzaun | /msg nick message |
| 15:37:40 | jzaun | it opens a seperate tab |
| 15:37:44 | Terminator | k |
| 15:37:47 | jzaun | when tey reply |
| 15:46:00 | gonkulator{work} | is away: class time |
| 15:46:13 | scanline | is away: class |
| 15:48:13 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:48:13 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:48:14 | bzbot | Serious Sam (R): 9 (14-5). MIRELLA (G): -9 (5-14). |
| 15:53:27 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 15:58:43 | bzdoug | hi test |
| 15:58:46 | bzdoug | are you testing? |
| 15:58:50 | test | yes |
| 15:58:51 | bzdoug | grins at jzaun |
| 15:58:58 | test | first time here |
| 15:59:04 | bzdougg | grins at bzdoug |
| 15:59:09 | bzdoug | ah, neat |
| 15:59:18 | bzdougg | nods his approval |
| 15:59:27 | test | so many players online here |
| 15:59:31 | bzdoug | yea |
| 15:59:37 | bzdoug | whats your callsign? |
| 15:59:47 | test | M1 |
| 15:59:53 | bzdougg | ah |
| 16:00:01 | bzdoug | ah |
| 16:00:06 | test | what? |
| 16:00:16 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:00:16 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 16:00:16 | bzbot | MIRELLA (R): 4 (5-1). nobody (G): -4 (1-5). |
| 16:00:17 | bzdoug | I seen you befre |
| 16:00:23 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 16:00:23 | bzdoug | ibot jzaun |
| 16:00:24 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 16:00:27 | bzdoug | tsk |
| 16:00:29 | | bzdoug: what? |
| 16:00:29 | bzdoug | ibot noodle |
| 16:00:37 | | bzdoug: huh? |
| 16:00:37 | bzdoug | ibot noodledoni |
| 16:00:40 | bzdoug | tsk |
| 16:00:56 | test | I played a lot since this March |
| 16:01:02 | bzdougg | hmm |
| 16:01:11 | test | We should met before |
| 16:01:15 | bzdougg | are you on stats.bzflag.org? |
| 16:01:21 | test | yes |
| 16:01:25 | bzdougg | neat |
| 16:01:31 | test | is it based on java? |
| 16:01:37 | test | the irc stuff |
| 16:01:37 | | OK, bzdoug. |
| 16:01:37 | bzdoug | ibot noodle is <reply> bzfquerylong bzflag.noodleroni.com 5155 |
| 16:01:41 | bzdoug | test: no |
| 16:01:44 | bzdoug | test: CGI |
| 16:01:48 | test | I c |
| 16:01:54 | bzdoug | test: so it runs on the server, not your comp |
| 16:02:04 | | bzfquerylong bzflag.noodleroni.com 5155 |
| 16:02:04 | bzdoug | ibot noodle? |
| 16:02:05 | test | yes |
| 16:02:10 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 16:02:21 | test | I cannot connect to irc directly |
| 16:02:22 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 16:02:26 | jzaun | irc? its its own technology.. not cgi not java thow clients can be written in both. |
| 16:02:30 | bzdoug | why? firewall? |
| 16:02:46 | bzdougg | grins at jzaun |
| 16:02:56 | bzdougg | likes his xchat in windows |
| 16:02:58 | jzaun | If you can't connect directly (with mirc/xchat) use a web interfact |
| 16:03:29 | bzdoug | yea, but even with the online java version wont work if theres a firewall in teh way |
| 16:03:31 | jzaun | java interfaces mostlikle still require your local computer to make the connection |
| 16:03:38 | jzaun | CGI is a safe bet |
| 16:03:41 | bzdoug | but the CGI version runs off the server.. |
| 16:03:43 | bzdoug | yup |
| 16:03:47 | bzdoug | very neat idea |
| 16:03:56 | bzdougg | nods his approval |
| 16:04:10 | bzdougg | grins and waves at test |
| 16:04:22 | bzdougg | /me grins and waves at test |
| 16:04:27 | bzdoug | thats how you do that |
| 16:04:28 | test | made a mistake just now |
| 16:04:33 | bzdoug | eh? |
| 16:04:54 | bzdoug | ah |
| 16:05:02 | test | I choose a personal channel, but do not know how to com back to group channel |
| 16:05:08 | bzdoug | CGI irc dont support DCC |
| 16:05:14 | bzdoug | test: click the tab |
| 16:05:19 | bzdoug | or type in /join #bzflag |
| 16:05:20 | jzaun | ahh... |
| 16:05:30 | test | I see |
| 16:05:43 | bzdoug | (said the blind man) |
| 16:05:54 | bzdoug | (as he picked up the hammer and saw) |
| 16:06:28 | bzdougg | is away: I'm busy (wow) |
| 16:06:35 | bzdoug | ooh, lunch time |
| 16:06:45 | test | cu |
| 16:06:48 | bzdoug | iis awawwway: luuuunch |
| 16:11:57 | test | look around |
| 16:12:16 | Terminator | hi all |
| 16:12:21 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:12:21 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 16:12:22 | bzbot | Maxix (G): -5 (3-8). MIRELLA (R): 30 (44-14). nobody (G): -25 (11-36). |
| 16:14:48 | Pinguin | How to make subscript text in LATEX without mathematical enviroment? |
| 16:15:26 | test | what do you mean by math environ? |
| 16:15:27 | captain_proton | patlabor221: poke |
| 16:15:38 | Pinguin | $ math ... $ |
| 16:15:52 | Pinguin | or \begin{math} ... |
| 16:16:01 | test | pictures |
| 16:16:20 | patlabor221 | just spilled a squirt on his keyboard |
| 16:16:25 | patlabor221 | what? peek? |
| 16:16:28 | Pinguin | i want to have an index with the standart font ... not hte mathematical one .. |
| 16:16:45 | test | \mbox |
| 16:16:48 | patlabor221 | I did get rid of the element class |
| 16:16:53 | patlabor221 | just noone has the code |
| 16:16:59 | captain_proton | ohhhh |
| 16:17:09 | Pinguin | \mbox ??? |
| 16:17:09 | patlabor221 | want it? |
| 16:17:10 | test | or give it some specific font name |
| 16:17:16 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 16:17:29 | Pinguin | something like $ \mbox{AL_{0.7}} ??? |
| 16:17:50 | bzdoug | Mmmm MSG loaded ramon noodles |
| 16:18:09 | Pinguin | i want to use subscript in standart text fonts ... |
| 16:18:09 | bzdoug | greetings patlabor221! |
| 16:18:14 | test | should be like $AL_{\mbox{0.7}}$ |
| 16:18:32 | Pinguin | bit the AL will be `ibot x de en kursiv` ... |
| 16:18:56 | Pinguin | hm ... command substitution is not implemented ... |
| 16:18:58 | test | ?? |
| 16:19:07 | Pinguin | ibot x de en kursiv |
| 16:19:12 | | Pinguin: italically |
| 16:19:17 | bzdoug | um |
| 16:19:19 | Pinguin | aha ... |
| 16:19:48 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bx/edit/BZEdit32-bleedingCode-9-26-2k2.zip |
| 16:19:53 | patlabor221 | that should be it |
| 16:20:03 | bzdoug | bleeding code? |
| 16:20:04 | patlabor221 | I do not know if it works or not |
| 16:20:07 | test | then $\mbox{AL}_{\mbox{0.7}}$ |
| 16:20:09 | patlabor221 | I was in the middle of making it |
| 16:20:13 | bzdoug | patlabor221: nien |
| 16:20:14 | patlabor221 | it has not been compiled |
| 16:20:17 | bzdoug | the link ist bad |
| 16:20:31 | bzdoug | http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit/BZEdit32-bleedingCode-9-26-2k2.zip |
| 16:20:43 | patlabor221 | opps |
| 16:20:44 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:20:47 | patlabor221 | doug why do you want it? |
| 16:21:03 | bzdoug | dunno, wanted to see whats in it |
| 16:21:04 | captain_proton | because he feels the need |
| 16:21:17 | bzdoug | patlabor221: get xchat for windows... better than mirc |
| 16:21:24 | patlabor221 | cap: the world, model, and object classes should be fine thi |
| 16:21:28 | patlabor221 | no it's not |
| 16:21:34 | patlabor221 | 1) it's unstable |
| 16:21:34 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 16:21:37 | patlabor221 | 2) it's ugly |
| 16:21:37 | bzdoug | its not |
| 16:21:40 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 16:21:45 | patlabor221 | 3) it don't like the second monitor |
| 16:21:49 | patlabor221 | yes it is |
| 16:21:54 | bzdoug | no worse than mirc |
| 16:21:59 | patlabor221 | way worse |
| 16:22:05 | bzdoug | bah |
| 16:22:08 | patlabor221 | at least MIRC has a standard interface |
| 16:22:16 | bzdoug | yea... |
| 16:22:18 | captain_proton | heh |
| 16:22:21 | patlabor221 | and does things like blink when the channel moves |
| 16:22:29 | patlabor221 | I like the linux verson of Xchat |
| 16:22:37 | captain_proton | bzedit-whatever doesn't have a standard interface but the docking is so cool its worth it |
| 16:22:38 | patlabor221 | it seems to be better then the windos port |
| 16:22:43 | captain_proton | much much better |
| 16:22:46 | bzdoug | hmm, uea |
| 16:22:57 | patlabor221 | the x chat interface is very simplistic |
| 16:23:01 | patlabor221 | some of the features are nice |
| 16:23:05 | bzdoug | tsk, it needs pocket engine |
| 16:23:05 | patlabor221 | it is more powerfull |
| 16:23:09 | bzdoug | patlabor221: yea |
| 16:23:09 | patlabor221 | yes it does |
| 16:23:18 | bzdoug | I dont really care for looks |
| 16:23:24 | patlabor221 | but MIRC just plays better with the other children |
| 16:23:29 | bzdoug | patlabor221: where is the pocket engine? |
| 16:23:34 | patlabor221 | around |
| 16:23:45 | bzdoug | glances around |
| 16:23:48 | patlabor221 | techincaly it's digivolved |
| 16:23:53 | bzdoug | ? |
| 16:24:19 | patlabor221 | there was no need to send cap the engire package, it's not like he's gonna build it |
| 16:24:26 | bzdoug | oh |
| 16:24:27 | patlabor221 | hell it won't even compile |
| 16:24:34 | patlabor221 | not the doc sutff anywya |
| 16:24:42 | bzdoug | humph, ok |
| 16:24:47 | patlabor221 | the stuff he wants will |
| 16:24:48 | captain_proton | wtf does digivolve mean? |
| 16:24:58 | patlabor221 | digital evolution |
| 16:25:07 | bzdoug | ghaha if (i == eAlways) // for funcky transparent stuff |
| 16:25:08 | patlabor221 | you have to be a permanant child to know |
| 16:25:25 | patlabor221 | yeah transpaerantcy is funky |
| 16:25:31 | patlabor221 | we realy need to sort the list |
| 16:25:37 | bzdoug | ah, lunch (again) |
| 16:25:37 | patlabor221 | but that's a decent work around. |
| 16:25:46 | bzdoug | is away: lunch |
| 16:25:46 | bzdoug | patlabor221: ok |
| 16:25:54 | captain_proton | yeah, please sort the list :P |
| 16:26:00 | bzdoug | ooh, yuk, its got a registry? |
| 16:26:02 | patlabor221 | like he as any clue about what we are talking about |
| 16:26:12 | patlabor221 | it's a standard MFC app so of course it does |
| 16:26:19 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 16:26:33 | bzdoug | guess you cant port it to *nix |
| 16:26:35 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 16:26:38 | patlabor221 | no need to |
| 16:26:41 | bzdoug | yea yea |
| 16:26:43 | patlabor221 | cap has the *nix version |
| 16:26:51 | bzdoug | captain_proton is "working" on it |
| 16:26:55 | bzdoug | :P |
| 16:27:05 | bzdoug | anyway... more ramon noodles on the way!!! |
| 16:27:11 | patlabor221 | no, he has a *nix verstion allrady |
| 16:27:15 | captain_proton | ramen you ignorant fool |
| 16:27:16 | patlabor221 | he is just working on more stuff |
| 16:27:23 | bzdoug | captain_proton: eh? |
| 16:27:29 | bzdoug | k |
| 16:27:32 | patlabor221 | it's ramen not ramon |
| 16:27:38 | captain_proton | ramon is a south/central-american name |
| 16:27:45 | patlabor221 | unless you are eating a mexican guy |
| 16:27:48 | bzdoug | I have more than on ramon, so its ramen |
| 16:28:02 | bzdoug | one* |
| 16:28:09 | patlabor221 | and you say I am a bad speller |
| 16:28:14 | captain_proton | its always ramen |
| 16:28:23 | bzdoug | we are all bad speelers |
| 16:28:27 | bzdoug | anyway... |
| 16:28:29 | captain_proton | speak for yourself |
| 16:28:38 | bzdoug | is away: ramEN lunch |
| 16:28:51 | patlabor221 | english ram? that's odd |
| 16:35:44 | Terminator_Elite | hi all |
| 16:35:52 | Terminator_Elite | this terminator |
| 16:36:11 | Terminator_Elite | but he trying the online version |
| 16:36:28 | Terminator_Elite | hmm i should have said i not he |
| 16:36:33 | Terminator_Elite | neway |
| 16:36:34 | captain_proton | the online version of...the internet! |
| 16:36:40 | Terminator_Elite | lol |
| 16:36:53 | Terminator_Elite | go to chat.ircnet.org |
| 16:37:14 | bomber | ciao |
| 16:37:22 | Terminator_Elite | hi ya |
| 16:37:29 | Terminator_Elite | oops |
| 16:37:33 | Terminator_Elite | ni metn bye |
| 16:37:34 | captain_proton | Terminator_Elite: since you're now on the online internet, you should check out yay-hoo....its in ohio |
| 16:38:03 | Terminator_Elite | what is yay-hoo |
| 16:38:21 | patlabor221 | did you know they have the internet on a computer now ? |
| 16:38:28 | Terminator_Elite | lol |
| 16:38:46 | sussudio | grr |
| 16:38:52 | Terminator_Elite | y grr |
| 16:39:05 | bzdoug | I want the internet on this floppy |
| 16:39:35 | Terminator_Elite | lol |
| 16:40:53 | Terminator_Elite | hmm |
| 16:41:06 | Terminator_Elite | how do u say when u go away |
| 16:41:07 | sussudio | fuckerdefuck |
| 16:41:22 | Terminator_Elite | and it comes up saying ur away |
| 16:41:22 | bzdoug | /me is away: doink |
| 16:41:32 | Terminator_Elite | ok |
| 16:41:54 | bzdoug | also add /away bleh |
| 16:42:05 | Terminator_Elite | is away: homework (I hate the teacher that invented homework |
| 16:42:22 | bzdoug | moo |
| 16:45:55 | sussudio | laserhell anyone? |
| 16:46:01 | bzdoug | no |
| 16:46:03 | bzdoug | shcool |
| 16:46:11 | sussudio | schoollllll's out for summah |
| 16:46:15 | bzdoug | fifteen quintillion seven hundred sixty-nine quadrillion nine hundred thirty-eight trillion one hundred sixty-five billion nine hundred sixty-one million three hundred twenty-six thousand five hundred ninty-two. |
| 16:46:58 | bzdoug | is away: scraping the ramen noodle pot |
| 16:52:44 | patlabor221 | wow I musta serioulsy busted up pocket engine when I made it LGEWin |
| 16:52:55 | bzdoug | heh |
| 16:52:57 | patlabor221 | has hooked up multiple selection |
| 16:53:05 | patlabor221 | but not in the thing you think |
| 16:53:14 | bzdoug | darn |
| 16:53:18 | bzdoug | what is it then? |
| 16:53:25 | patlabor221 | a virus |
| 16:53:35 | bzdoug | ah |
| 16:54:38 | sussudio | ZrW2O8 |
| 16:56:21 | Terminator | i am back |
| 16:56:32 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:56:32 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 16:56:32 | bzbot | TAN (G): 0 (2-2). Blah (R): 0 (1-1). u2 (R): 6 (27-21). Mayhem (G): -12 (11-23). Ritchie (G): -1 (2-3). m0nkey_b0y (R): 0 (0-0). rhino2878 (R): -1 (0-1). |
| 16:57:25 | Terminator | hmm http:/chat.ircnet.org/ |
| 16:57:41 | Terminator | okn it owrks |
| 16:58:14 | Terminator | brb |
| 17:12:48 | bzdoug | hey |
| 17:12:57 | bzdoug | checkout that bridge map |
| 17:13:00 | bzdoug | its way cool |
| 17:13:08 | bzdoug | all by hand, no editor |
| 17:13:16 | jzaun | is for horses |
| 17:14:55 | bzdoug | nah |
| 17:18:18 | patlabor221 | scanline you here? |
| 17:20:36 | Cell_prog_insect | haloa |
| 17:20:49 | patlabor221 | hulla? |
| 17:21:52 | Cell_prog_insect | hey patlabor221 do u use some code from magic software? |
| 17:22:01 | patlabor221 | we have looked at it |
| 17:22:10 | patlabor221 | Dave eberly is a rather smart man. |
| 17:22:29 | Cell_prog_insect | an he i fit in 3d |
| 17:22:31 | patlabor221 | we usualy look at what he does then move reimplement it in our own classes |
| 17:22:37 | patlabor221 | what? |
| 17:22:50 | Cell_prog_insect | he is fit in 3d |
| 17:23:09 | patlabor221 | fit? |
| 17:23:26 | Cell_prog_insect | oh fit means a prof |
| 17:23:33 | patlabor221 | ahh yes, that he is |
| 17:24:02 | Cell_prog_insect | but its badly commented |
| 17:24:59 | patlabor221 | well if you know the math by looking at the books it's not to bad |
| 17:25:08 | Cell_prog_insect | are his algos efficient? |
| 17:26:03 | Cell_prog_insect | it looks quite fast to me |
| 17:28:11 | Cell_prog_insect | orthogonal view frustum, what does that mean? Suppose it means the eye matrix3x3 part yelds a orthogonal coord system |
| 17:28:21 | Cell_prog_insect | but not sure |
| 17:30:37 | bzdoug | is away: shcool |
| 17:31:45 | Cell_prog_insect | oh listening to the cool ff IX and ff XI sounds, that reminds me how much i enjoyed the games, tears come to my eyes |
| 17:36:12 | Cell_prog_insect | big error i meant finalfantasy IV and VI, oh damn this greek numbering is so tricky |
| 17:37:34 | sussudio | eats steak and mushrooms |
| 17:38:18 | Terminator | hi all |
| 17:38:59 | sussudio | *munch* |
| 17:45:45 | Terminator | punches sussudio becuz he is bored |
| 17:48:08 | Terminator | terminates the whole universe becuz he is really bored |
| 17:49:14 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:49:14 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 17:50:28 | bzdoug | steak and mushrooms? |
| 17:50:45 | bzdoug | I thought all the mushrooms in eurupe was radioactive |
| 17:50:59 | Terminator | huh? |
| 17:51:08 | bzdoug | [14:40] * sussudio eats steak and mushrooms |
| 17:51:34 | Terminator | mushrooms in europe arent radioactive |
| 17:52:01 | Terminator | what client are you using bzdoug |
| 17:52:26 | bzdoug | trillian |
| 17:52:36 | Terminator | is that only for linux |
| 17:52:44 | bzdoug | ? |
| 17:52:51 | bzdoug | nope, its only for windows |
| 17:52:58 | Terminator | oh |
| 17:53:05 | Terminator | where can you download it |
| 17:53:06 | bzdoug | trillian.cc |
| 17:53:11 | Terminator | ok |
| 17:53:19 | Terminator | cool i'm on windows |
| 17:53:24 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 17:53:29 | bzdoug | it also does: |
| 17:53:32 | Terminator | i am using xchat at the moment |
| 17:53:42 | bzdoug | AIM/YAHOO/MSN/ICQ/IRC |
| 17:53:48 | Terminator | cool |
| 17:53:56 | bzdoug | instant messeing |
| 17:54:01 | Terminator | i'm definetly gonna get dat |
| 17:54:17 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:54:24 | Terminator | y hmm |
| 17:54:38 | bzdoug | heh |
| 17:54:47 | | fhffhqvb |
| 17:54:47 | bzdoug | ibot rot13 sussudio |
| 17:55:16 | | sussudio |
| 17:55:16 | bzdoug | ibot rot13 fhffhqvb |
| 17:55:20 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 17:55:24 | | omsynt |
| 17:55:24 | bzdoug | ibot rot13 bzflag |
| 17:55:50 | Terminator | hmm |
| 17:56:00 | | omsynt |
| 17:56:00 | bzdoug | ibot rot13 bzflag |
| 17:56:04 | | omqbht |
| 17:56:04 | bzdoug | ibot rot13 bzdoug |
| 17:56:08 | | d is for dumb |
| 17:56:08 | Terminator | ibot bzdoug |
| 17:56:08 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:56:16 | | Grezvangbe |
| 17:56:16 | bzdoug | ibot rot13 Terminator |
| 17:56:17 | | Terminator: sorry... |
| 17:56:17 | Terminator | ibot doughecka |
| 17:57:01 | | Terminator is the leader of The Elite |
| 17:57:01 | Terminator | ibot Terminator |
| 17:57:06 | bzdoug | hey |
| 17:57:13 | bzdoug | someone tell me what this is: http://65.172.58.30/ |
| 17:58:03 | Terminator | i dunno |
| 17:58:08 | bzdoug | odd |
| 17:58:10 | bzdoug | anyway.. |
| 17:58:13 | Terminator | yup |
| 17:58:16 | bzdoug | is away: getting an apple |
| 17:58:35 | bzdoug | preferably an ibook, but a red delictise should od |
| 17:59:05 | Terminator | brb (i'm gonna install trillian |
| 17:59:08 | Terminator | ) |
| 18:06:13 | Terminator | i need some help |
| 18:06:16 | captain_proton | makes coffee |
| 18:06:29 | Terminator | how do i use irc on trillian? |
| 18:06:35 | bzdoug | pores coffee down captain_proton's shirt |
| 18:06:38 | bzdoug | Terminator: hmm |
| 18:06:46 | bzdoug | ok, you are at the main window, right? |
| 18:07:05 | Terminator | well it is showing all my msn contacts |
| 18:07:11 | bzdoug | you see 5 tiny icons at the bottom of the screen |
| 18:07:20 | bzdoug | with MSN and ICQ and stuff |
| 18:07:23 | Terminator | yeah |
| 18:07:30 | Terminator | oh |
| 18:07:32 | Terminator | ok |
| 18:07:34 | Terminator | i c |
| 18:07:51 | bzdoug | click the one that looks like a blue circle |
| 18:08:32 | Terminator | ok |
| 18:08:42 | captain_proton | bzdoug: you're just jealous |
| 18:08:51 | bzdoug | I dont like coffee |
| 18:08:55 | bzdoug | its bitter |
| 18:09:04 | bzdoug | yay |
| 18:09:08 | Terminator | ok hi |
| 18:09:14 | bzdoug | does it work? |
| 18:09:16 | Terminator | trillian is cool |
| 18:09:32 | Terminator | yup it works |
| 18:09:36 | bzdoug | w00t, it works |
| 18:09:43 | bzdoug | neato: http://visualroute.visualware.com/ |
| 18:09:45 | captain_proton | uncultured swine... |
| 18:09:58 | bzdoug | captain_proton: oink |
| 18:10:15 | bzdoug | gimme an IP from antartica |
| 18:10:22 | Terminator | lol |
| 18:10:33 | Terminator | noone live in antartica |
| 18:10:37 | Terminator | only the artic |
| 18:10:39 | bzdoug | they do to |
| 18:10:49 | Terminator | u r thinking of the artic |
| 18:10:51 | bzdoug | they have a base on the south pole |
| 18:10:58 | bzdoug | I want a IP from there |
| 18:11:06 | bzdoug | or at least on teh coast |
| 18:11:14 | Terminator | only scientists and explorers and scientists go to the antartic |
| 18:11:26 | bzdoug | they have the net |
| 18:11:36 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 18:11:43 | bzdoug | pig.com is hosted in newyork |
| 18:11:55 | Terminator | ok |
| 18:11:58 | Terminator | lol |
| 18:12:16 | Terminator | bzdoug do you use msn |
| 18:12:24 | bzdoug | yea |
| 18:12:26 | bzdoug | and yahoo |
| 18:12:28 | bzdoug | and ICQ |
| 18:12:31 | bzdoug | and and and |
| 18:12:32 | Terminator | whats ur email |
| 18:12:40 | bzdoug | tad@heckaman.com |
| 18:12:44 | Terminator | ok |
| 18:13:21 | Terminator | it hink i just added u |
| 18:13:23 | captain_proton | scanline: where do you buy your coffee from? |
| 18:13:30 | bzdoug | hm |
| 18:13:37 | Terminator | no i didnt |
| 18:13:47 | bzdoug | nope |
| 18:13:50 | Terminator | can u add me |
| 18:13:54 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 18:13:56 | bzdoug | whats it? |
| 18:13:59 | Terminator | simpsonsmania@hotmail.com |
| 18:14:24 | bzdoug | *bing* |
| 18:16:32 | bzdoug | woo |
| 18:16:32 | bzdoug | grins</BODY></HTML> |
| 18:18:19 | captain_proton | ahh, lovely smell |
| 18:18:40 | bzdoug | shoots a hole through the coffee machine |
| 18:18:41 | captain_proton | is so impressed with patlabor's code |
| 18:18:46 | captain_proton | void SetDefalutData ( void ); |
| 18:18:50 | bzdoug | LOL |
| 18:19:06 | captain_proton | you couldn't do better mr ramon |
| 18:19:15 | Terminator | :-D i like trillian |
| 18:19:24 | bzdoug | he beats you in lazy ness |
| 18:19:41 | captain_proton | um, so? |
| 18:19:45 | sussudio | -|- (Bloodhound_Gang)_[01]_I_Hope_You_Die.mp3 (5,268,258 bytes 192kbps Joint Stereo 3mins 40secs Genre:Alternative Year:1999 Album:Hooray For Boobies |
| 18:20:01 | bzdoug | coughs and glares at sussudio |
| 18:20:08 | captain_proton | and even then... |
| 18:20:11 | bzdoug | captain_proton: haha |
| 18:20:14 | captain_proton | he works two jobs, and i'm playing minesweeper |
| 18:20:20 | Terminator | is confused |
| 18:20:21 | bzdoug | lol |
| 18:20:25 | Terminator | i dont work |
| 18:20:33 | Terminator | i'm still in school |
| 18:20:34 | bzdoug | :-B |
| 18:20:37 | bzdoug | (monkey) |
| 18:20:40 | bzdoug | (pig) |
| 18:20:42 | Terminator | lol |
| 18:20:43 | bzdoug | 3:-0 |
| 18:20:46 | bzdoug | (cowboy) |
| 18:20:49 | bzdoug | 8-X |
| 18:20:51 | sussudio | die die die die |
| 18:20:51 | bzdoug | =:-} |
| 18:20:59 | sussudio | it's a happy song |
| 18:21:12 | bzdoug | vaporizes sussudio with a large gun |
| 18:21:24 | Terminator | lol |
| 18:21:35 | Terminator | terminates the whole universw |
| 18:21:47 | Terminator | universe* |
| 18:22:08 | sussudio | your mother smells of elderberries |
| 18:22:10 | bzdoug | kills ibot |
| 18:22:10 | | goodbye, bzdoug. |
| 18:22:10 | bzdoug | ibot part #bzflag |
| 18:22:31 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:22:31 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 18:22:32 | bzbot | m0nkey_b0y (G): 60 (170-110). BeZee (R): 1 (9-8). Taure (R): -9 (7-16). Uncle Nash (R): 4 (18-14). nobody (G): -12 (10-22). |
| 18:22:40 | sussudio | you remember, fist can be a verb |
| 18:22:49 | bzdoug | haha |
| 18:23:10 | bzdoug | slams a warhead into sussudio's general area |
| 18:23:26 | sussudio | sends vince after bzdoug to play "balls on chin" |
| 18:23:46 | bzdoug | brings up his anti-* shields |
| 18:24:08 | sussudio | http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bloodhoundgang/ihopeyoudie.html |
| 18:24:12 | captain_proton | watches bzdoug's shields fail because he forgot to change the battteries |
| 18:24:36 | bzdoug | nope, they keep going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going etc |
| 18:24:40 | jzaun | tosses bzdoug a new pair of batteries |
| 18:24:56 | bzdoug | also has a backup nuclear battery recharger |
| 18:25:18 | jzaun | captain_proton: hows BZEE coming? |
| 18:25:20 | bzdoug | throws the batteries back at jzaun |
| 18:25:41 | bzdoug | invents a new game...... LAZYNESS!! |
| 18:25:56 | captain_proton | jzaun: making progress on the new object syste |
| 18:25:59 | captain_proton | system* |
| 18:26:16 | jzaun | captain_proton: Cool any chance I could play with it? |
| 18:26:19 | | bzdoug: bugger all, i dunno |
| 18:26:19 | bzdoug | ibot BZEE? |
| 18:26:24 | bzdoug | captain_proton: me too |
| 18:27:10 | bzdoug | downloaded UT2k3 |
| 18:27:28 | bzdoug | whoop whoop whoop |
| 18:27:44 | captain_proton | jzaun: i can send you the current code but it doesn't do much aside from l33t-o layouts |
| 18:28:06 | jzaun | Cool: jzaun@jzaun.com :-) |
| 18:28:07 | bzdoug | lol |
| 18:28:14 | captain_proton | no dcc? |
| 18:28:23 | bzdoug | dialup |
| 18:28:30 | bzdoug | Terminator: you have UT2003? |
| 18:28:46 | jzaun | captain_proton: gimme a sec |
| 18:29:14 | jzaun_ | I have DCC |
| 18:29:19 | jzaun | I don't |
| 18:29:24 | jzaun_ | I do |
| 18:29:27 | jzaun | I don't |
| 18:29:30 | jzaun_ | :-P |
| 18:29:32 | bzdoug | LOL |
| 18:30:01 | bzdoug | gives up and punches both of them |
| 18:30:08 | captain_proton | jzaun: you'll have to install gdl from gnome-cvs |
| 18:30:20 | jzaun | gdl? |
| 18:30:36 | captain_proton | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome co gdl |
| 18:30:42 | Terminator | back |
| 18:31:04 | bzdoug | well do you have UT2003? |
| 18:31:17 | Terminator | yup |
| 18:31:22 | Terminator | the demo that is |
| 18:31:26 | bzdoug | yea |
| 18:31:31 | bzdoug | I can host a server here |
| 18:31:35 | Terminator | it is really cool |
| 18:31:47 | Terminator | i am gonna get it as soon as it is realeased |
| 18:31:53 | bzdoug | how much is it? |
| 18:32:03 | bzdoug | the full when it comes out? |
| 18:32:07 | Terminator | i think £30 |
| 18:32:11 | captain_proton | mmmmm, good lunch |
| 18:32:12 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 18:32:15 | bzdoug | too much |
| 18:32:24 | bzdoug | I got UT for 10 bucks from walmart |
| 18:32:25 | captain_proton | bzdoug: cheapskate |
| 18:32:30 | Terminator | lol |
| 18:32:38 | bzdoug | captain_proton: bleh, I am getting a computer to run it forst |
| 18:32:40 | bzdoug | first |
| 18:32:42 | Terminator | wait u said ut not ut2003 |
| 18:32:48 | bzdoug | yea |
| 18:32:49 | bzdoug | UT' |
| 18:32:54 | bzdoug | the older version |
| 18:32:59 | jzaun | captain_proton: whats gdl do? |
| 18:33:03 | bzdoug | very fun, runs on older computers |
| 18:33:13 | captain_proton | jzaun: its the library that handles the nifty docking stuff |
| 18:33:15 | bzdoug | older = 1999 and up |
| 18:33:33 | jzaun | captain_proton: Gnome Docking Library? :-) |
| 18:33:57 | captain_proton | jzaun: gnome devtool libraries |
| 18:33:58 | Terminator | i was talkin bout the new version bzdoug |
| 18:34:03 | bzdoug | yea |
| 18:34:11 | bzdoug | I have the new version too |
| 18:34:16 | bzdoug | but I also have the old version |
| 18:34:19 | captain_proton | its got some other stuff in there thats used in anjuta but not bze |
| 18:34:37 | bzdoug | you wanna play one of them? |
| 18:34:41 | bzdoug | one on one |
| 18:34:43 | Terminator | who me? |
| 18:34:48 | jzaun | gonna use it in the future? |
| 18:34:53 | bzdoug | sure |
| 18:34:56 | Terminator | what server |
| 18:35:01 | bzdoug | my server |
| 18:35:03 | bzdoug | hold on |
| 18:35:06 | Terminator | play ut2003 |
| 18:35:13 | bzdoug | ok |
| 18:35:47 | bzdoug | ok |
| 18:35:56 | bzdoug | its a CTF game |
| 18:35:58 | Terminator | ok |
| 18:36:06 | Terminator | what is the server called |
| 18:36:18 | captain_proton | jzaun: the other stuff? not likely |
| 18:36:21 | bzdoug | and do you want to enter the name in manuly or go to it in the server list? |
| 18:36:32 | Terminator | go to the server list |
| 18:36:38 | bzdoug | ok |
| 18:36:48 | bzdoug | well, the server is heckaman.bzflag.org |
| 18:36:49 | jzaun | captain_proton: could have a "Code View" the lets you edit the bzw by hand in real time |
| 18:36:54 | Terminator | ok |
| 18:37:11 | bzdoug | ok |
| 18:37:12 | Terminator | is away play UT2003 Demo |
| 18:37:15 | bzdoug | server should be running |
| 18:37:34 | captain_proton | jzaun: eww |
| 18:38:24 | jzaun | captain_proton: well, if not but have let us edit the numbers by .01 rather than .1 :-P |
| 18:38:41 | captain_proton | jzaun: such things will be configurable |
| 18:38:52 | jzaun | captain_proton: :-) :-) |
| 18:39:07 | bzdoug | Terminator: its on the list as bzdougs server or somethin |
| 18:41:49 | jzaun | building gdl now.... |
| 18:42:46 | captain_proton | jzaun: hmm, lemme get you a new copy of a file |
| 18:43:10 | jzaun | captain_proton: what file? |
| 18:44:06 | captain_proton | 2 files actually :) |
| 18:44:21 | jzaun | bzee or gdl? |
| 18:44:42 | captain_proton | for bzee |
| 18:45:07 | jzaun | ok |
| 19:03:08 | bzdoug | whoop whoop whoop |
| 19:03:53 | bzdoug | is away: school, maybe, or just busy, or maybe setting the away message cuz im bored |
| 19:04:08 | captain_proton | ponders adding plugin object types |
| 19:05:22 | jzaun | captain_proton: do it :-) |
| 19:05:31 | sussudio | are you pndering what i'm pondering pinky |
| 19:05:51 | jzaun | Pinky and the Brain |
| 19:05:57 | jzaun | haven't seen them in a long time |
| 19:05:59 | bzdoug | heya patlabor221 |
| 19:06:04 | Phactorial | captain_proton: sup? |
| 19:06:05 | bzdoug | jzaun_: me too |
| 19:06:30 | bzdoug | the pinky, the pinky and the brain brain brain... |
| 19:06:46 | sussudio | NARF |
| 19:06:49 | jzaun | Pinky is the smart one though |
| 19:06:50 | bzdoug | coughs and resumes normal running parimaters |
| 19:07:08 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:07:13 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I sent you the bootloader btw... |
| 19:07:16 | jzaun | is compiling bzee |
| 19:07:25 | bzdoug | shoots the compiler |
| 19:07:32 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I also have a pretty nice design sketch for the actual ruleset structure, it is seessy |
| 19:08:10 | bzdoug | wonders why UT2003 demo runs so slowly on his 333 mhz computer |
| 19:08:22 | captain_proton | Phactorial: yeah i saw |
| 19:08:32 | captain_proton | thats not the portion of it that i was interested in :P |
| 19:08:40 | captain_proton | its the kernel loader that i'm wrestling with |
| 19:08:43 | bzdoug | bootloader for what? |
| 19:08:56 | Phactorial | captain_proton: That is the kernel loader :\ |
| 19:09:15 | Phactorial | captain_proton: The only difference is that it leaves the kernel the job of switching into protected mode |
| 19:09:35 | captain_proton | Phactorial: only if the kernel fits in a single block (?) |
| 19:09:50 | Phactorial | captain_proton: A single block of what? |
| 19:10:04 | captain_proton | the disk |
| 19:10:07 | Phactorial | captain_proton: The kernel has no size limits (that is, limited by floppy disk size) |
| 19:10:16 | Phactorial | captain_proton: It is only the bootloader... |
| 19:10:31 | captain_proton | mov ah, 2 |
| 19:10:31 | captain_proton | mov al, 5 |
| 19:10:31 | captain_proton | mov cx, 2 |
| 19:10:31 | captain_proton | xor dx, dx |
| 19:10:31 | captain_proton | int 13h |
| 19:10:33 | captain_proton | that just reads 1 block |
| 19:10:54 | captain_proton | ohhh wait |
| 19:10:56 | captain_proton | jc :P |
| 19:10:57 | Phactorial | captain_proton: ... |
| 19:11:03 | captain_proton | you sneaky biotch |
| 19:11:08 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Stop smoking crack |
| 19:11:29 | captain_proton | no, i refuse |
| 19:11:58 | Cell_prog_insect | shit i cant programm without no const on parameters and functions as in c++, im runnig into difficulties with c# without the const, its such a nice language but why the hell there is no const, this makes it a piece of shit IMHO |
| 19:12:03 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I had the following: bootloader -> system loader (this just goes into pmode and does a couple of CPU compatibility tests) -> kernel |
| 19:12:23 | captain_proton | thats what i thought |
| 19:12:34 | captain_proton | but i was confused about exactly what was loading what off the disk |
| 19:12:38 | captain_proton | isn't confused no longer |
| 19:13:14 | patlabor221 | C# is a very young lang. |
| 19:13:22 | patlabor221 | and why do you need const |
| 19:13:29 | patlabor221 | you should be able to work around it |
| 19:13:33 | Chestal | Java doesn't have const either, does itß it has final, but that just doesn't cut it |
| 19:14:00 | Phactorial | I think I know what they don't have const... |
| 19:14:03 | patlabor221 | well c# was origonaly J++ 2.0 |
| 19:14:42 | Cell_prog_insect | Phactorial:why? |
| 19:14:49 | bzdoug | greetings patlabor221 |
| 19:14:52 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 19:14:58 | bzdoug | http://65.172.58.30/ |
| 19:15:01 | bzdoug | check it out |
| 19:15:03 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: I think it is because both programming languages suck... |
| 19:15:06 | bzdoug | its very odd |
| 19:15:09 | Phactorial | Cell_prog_insect: That could be a possibility? Yes? |
| 19:15:17 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:15:22 | Phactorial | ;) |
| 19:15:25 | captain_proton | you're so dainty Phactorial |
| 19:15:41 | bzdoug | whois Phactorial |
| 19:15:43 | Cell_prog_insect | fo exaple i dont know if i pass a reference to a fuction if it alters the reference object or not |
| 19:15:48 | captain_proton | hmm, had forgotten how good mfh is for coding |
| 19:15:52 | Chestal | I just learned that Python has no notion of making membrs private or protected? |
| 19:15:53 | patlabor221 | WTF is that page? |
| 19:15:56 | bzdoug | I dunno |
| 19:16:11 | patlabor221 | just looks like a litte ASP page |
| 19:16:38 | bzdoug | yea, but I cant figure out what it does |
| 19:16:45 | patlabor221 | why do you care? |
| 19:16:48 | bzdoug | what its hooked up to |
| 19:16:57 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:16:58 | patlabor221 | you have no way of knowing |
| 19:16:58 | Phactorial | Hrm... |
| 19:17:00 | bzdoug | anyway... |
| 19:17:05 | patlabor221 | and who's macine is it? |
| 19:17:09 | bzdoug | dunno |
| 19:17:14 | patlabor221 | then why do you care? |
| 19:17:17 | captain_proton | patlabor221: this new object system would make object plugins a snap |
| 19:17:18 | patlabor221 | it's proalby just a test |
| 19:17:20 | Cell_prog_insect | ibot x en de alter |
| 19:17:22 | | Cell_prog_insect: ändern Sie |
| 19:17:23 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:17:31 | patlabor221 | cap: yours or mine? |
| 19:17:35 | | Phactorial is The Pretty Hot Factorial |
| 19:17:35 | Phactorial | ibot Phactorial? |
| 19:17:36 | bzdoug | patlabor221: ha |
| 19:17:37 | captain_proton | patlabor221: mine |
| 19:17:41 | bzdoug | moin akira_ |
| 19:17:44 | bzdoug | hi captain_proton |
| 19:17:46 | akira_ | hello |
| 19:17:50 | bzdoug | greetings patlabor221 |
| 19:17:52 | bzdoug | :P |
| 19:17:53 | patlabor221 | how is it difrent then mine |
| 19:17:54 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 19:18:08 | captain_proton | each object tells the UI what properties it has |
| 19:18:20 | patlabor221 | that's what I was geting ready to do |
| 19:18:24 | bzdoug | anyone want to play UT2003 with my laggy computer? |
| 19:18:40 | bzdoug | it runs faster off that leeeenox cd |
| 19:18:41 | captain_proton | and everything is set via named properties, no set_px() shite |
| 19:18:50 | bzdoug | x( |
| 19:19:00 | patlabor221 | very cool |
| 19:19:09 | patlabor221 | that's where it was going anyway, logicaly |
| 19:19:17 | patlabor221 | that will make is nice and usable |
| 19:19:28 | Cell_prog_insect | so u use a hash table to access properties? |
| 19:19:59 | patlabor221 | I hadn't started it |
| 19:20:03 | patlabor221 | I was just thinging about it |
| 19:20:18 | patlabor221 | what I sent you was as far as I got |
| 19:20:23 | akira_ | hello patty |
| 19:20:26 | akira_ | hello cell |
| 19:20:28 | captain_proton | hmm, i do need one global property, whether an object can be a parent node for a group |
| 19:20:30 | Cell_prog_insect | hi |
| 19:20:47 | patlabor221 | I was going to hook up plug in functions first before changing the object stuff |
| 19:20:52 | patlabor221 | hey akira_ |
| 19:21:15 | patlabor221 | I figure I'll let you make this then just use the code now :) |
| 19:21:19 | Cell_prog_insect | sounds interesting, because i have similar problems with my teeth editor |
| 19:21:21 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:21:22 | patlabor221 | all I'll have to do is remove that crap formating |
| 19:21:40 | sussudio | hm somehow german erotic thrillers dont really work |
| 19:21:46 | akira_ | what for problems cell? |
| 19:21:50 | captain_proton | what, you mean change things to be like yours? 'DefalutData()' |
| 19:21:53 | sussudio | <low voice> gib mir der bratwurst and sauerkraut </low voice> |
| 19:22:03 | patlabor221 | no just that if (x){ |
| 19:22:12 | patlabor221 | b = 1; |
| 19:22:12 | patlabor221 | } |
| 19:22:14 | patlabor221 | crap |
| 19:22:22 | patlabor221 | I'll keep your names |
| 19:22:26 | captain_proton | i do if() { not if (){ ;) |
| 19:22:36 | patlabor221 | you know what I mean |
| 19:22:45 | captain_proton | jzaun: gotten it to compile? |
| 19:23:10 | bzdoug | sussudio: yum |
| 19:23:22 | patlabor221 | right now I have to see why I busted LGE for the editor before I do anything else |
| 19:23:30 | patlabor221 | and redo the shell without MFC |
| 19:23:32 | sussudio | ibot x de en gib mir der bratwurst and sauerkraut |
| 19:23:35 | | sussudio: give me the bratwurst and sauerkraut |
| 19:23:48 | | sussudio: sorry... |
| 19:23:48 | sussudio | ibot: you're useless |
| 19:23:51 | captain_proton | hmm, rendering groups could just be setting glTranslate, glScale, and glRotate |
| 19:23:58 | captain_proton | then iterating down into the children |
| 19:24:03 | patlabor221 | yup |
| 19:24:12 | patlabor221 | like any god asembly should |
| 19:24:17 | patlabor221 | good not god |
| 19:24:27 | Cell_prog_insect | akira_:i want to implement a dialog in my editor, so when user selects an visible item in the 3d view he can alter the properties of the selected object, that would need a dynamic ui creation based on properties, i use c# attributes to add additional infos to properties |
| 19:24:34 | patlabor221 | then you can just have a list for each boject type |
| 19:24:40 | patlabor221 | and it would be wicked fast |
| 19:24:48 | patlabor221 | tho GL scale won't look right |
| 19:25:03 | patlabor221 | since BZ repeates the textures and dosn't scale them |
| 19:25:06 | captain_proton | true, perhaps scale shouldn't be defined on group objects |
| 19:25:40 | patlabor221 | yeah since it's not realy object size not a real scale. |
| 19:26:02 | patlabor221 | is realy ojbect size not scale I mean |
| 19:27:02 | patlabor221 | is horibly pleased with the 2.5d gridcaster :) |
| 19:27:14 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 19:27:32 | Cell_prog_insect | whats that |
| 19:27:42 | captain_proton | gridcaster? thats a sucky name |
| 19:27:44 | captain_proton | metacaster |
| 19:28:01 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 19:28:03 | patlabor221 | it's not meta |
| 19:28:12 | patlabor221 | it now allows heights for each grid |
| 19:28:23 | patlabor221 | cell: it's the raycaster derivitive thing |
| 19:28:49 | Cell_prog_insect | ah |
| 19:29:03 | captain_proton | patlabor221: do you do any calculations about how finely you cast the rays? |
| 19:29:25 | patlabor221 | there are calcs that tell me when to stop casting a ray |
| 19:29:29 | patlabor221 | kinda hack now |
| 19:29:32 | patlabor221 | need to work on it more |
| 19:29:40 | patlabor221 | I stop if they are 1 grid unit apart |
| 19:29:45 | patlabor221 | or if there targets are the same |
| 19:29:56 | patlabor221 | or if they are under a mininum deviation. |
| 19:30:01 | captain_proton | it seems that with some tricky trig you could make it so when you hit a block you know just the angle you need to cast at to slip by the edge of it |
| 19:30:21 | patlabor221 | yeah that would be the optimal ray |
| 19:30:26 | patlabor221 | right now I just bisect |
| 19:30:33 | Cell_prog_insect | so u are working on ur maze, why is it funny? |
| 19:30:48 | patlabor221 | funny? |
| 19:31:04 | captain_proton | imagine the framerate...you get a single visibility calculation for each polygon in the scene... |
| 19:31:10 | Cell_prog_insect | i mean u are going back too doom times |
| 19:31:24 | patlabor221 | back further |
| 19:31:30 | patlabor221 | wolfenstein :) |
| 19:31:33 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 19:31:34 | bzdoug | LOL |
| 19:31:35 | patlabor221 | but it's all hardware accelerated. |
| 19:31:42 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:31:53 | captain_proton | and it has a cool visibility algorithm |
| 19:32:05 | patlabor221 | that it does |
| 19:32:10 | patlabor221 | I am rather proud of it |
| 19:32:24 | Cell_prog_insect | but u use only horizontal and vertical lines for ur map or? |
| 19:32:30 | patlabor221 | I have one that works on arbitrary convex polygons |
| 19:32:36 | patlabor221 | but it's more buggy |
| 19:32:43 | patlabor221 | the map is basicly a 2d array |
| 19:32:54 | Cell_prog_insect | cells? |
| 19:33:07 | patlabor221 | grid |
| 19:33:20 | patlabor221 | the arbitrary one uses cells |
| 19:33:34 | patlabor221 | this one in it's simplest form uses a bitmap |
| 19:33:38 | Cell_prog_insect | and the polygons are all aligned to the grid border |
| 19:33:58 | patlabor221 | the meta caster does not use polygons |
| 19:34:06 | patlabor221 | a difrent one I made does use polygons |
| 19:34:13 | patlabor221 | that one does not require a grid at all |
| 19:34:15 | Cell_prog_insect | iit uses edges? |
| 19:34:25 | Phactorial | Dirty mouse |
| 19:34:33 | patlabor221 | a poly is made up of edges yes |
| 19:34:37 | captain_proton | beating off the rat race with a mouse? |
| 19:34:43 | bzdoug | a duron is a athlon with 1/2 cache? |
| 19:34:44 | patlabor221 | but that one needs more work |
| 19:34:45 | captain_proton | its time to put our strong hand in your pocket |
| 19:34:53 | patlabor221 | 1/4 chache |
| 19:35:00 | captain_proton | with BOOM DOT BUST. a platform agnostic, browser blind bit broker |
| 19:35:05 | captain_proton | from US whatgate...plus |
| 19:35:08 | bzdoug | k |
| 19:35:24 | patlabor221 | doug but there are many types of athalogns, and there are some other changes. |
| 19:35:35 | captain_proton | athalogns...there's a loaded word |
| 19:35:38 | bzdoug | Tbird has 1/2 of the thlon |
| 19:35:50 | bzdoug | k |
| 19:36:25 | patlabor221 | doug what a tbird is an athalon |
| 19:36:30 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:36:34 | patlabor221 | do you mean athalon XP? |
| 19:36:42 | captain_proton | no 'a' in athlon ;) |
| 19:36:54 | patlabor221 | there are 5 types of athalongs |
| 19:36:54 | patlabor221 | whatever |
| 19:37:01 | bzdoug | athlon. |
| 19:37:01 | captain_proton | athalon sounds like a name for an elf |
| 19:37:08 | patlabor221 | the regular one, tbird, palamino, MP and XP |
| 19:37:10 | bzdoug | pff |
| 19:37:14 | bzdoug | reg |
| 19:37:15 | patlabor221 | atlagorn!!! |
| 19:37:27 | captain_proton | haha |
| 19:37:31 | Phactorial | lol |
| 19:37:33 | patlabor221 | reg ones are very old and not made any more, and only went up to 800 |
| 19:37:38 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:37:45 | Phactorial | Sounds like a Lord of the Rings movie to me |
| 19:37:59 | patlabor221 | athagorn, son of kayfive. |
| 19:37:59 | Phactorial | Lord of the Rings: return of the cache |
| 19:37:59 | captain_proton | argg, name conflict |
| 19:38:33 | captain_proton | i have world.h which defines a World : public Object, but the 'world' is also the storage for everything |
| 19:39:22 | captain_proton | changes World to Map |
| 19:39:37 | bzdoug | lol |
| 19:41:09 | patlabor221 | thats a beter name |
| 19:41:25 | captain_proton | so by default the world will start out with one group called 'map', two children 'walls' and 'ground' |
| 19:41:34 | patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 19:41:36 | captain_proton | changing the 'size' parameter on 'map' changes the size of the available world |
| 19:41:45 | patlabor221 | again making sense |
| 19:41:57 | captain_proton | since the bz format does actually support that in an undocumented-way |
| 19:42:04 | patlabor221 | are there other options for the world block in the map file? |
| 19:42:08 | patlabor221 | or just size? |
| 19:42:48 | captain_proton | 'flagHeight' but i dunno what that is |
| 19:43:07 | captain_proton | i think it defines the stem height for flags - most useless |
| 19:44:34 | captain_proton | yaay |
| 19:44:39 | captain_proton | class World : public std::map<std::string, Object *> |
| 19:46:21 | sussudio | debian bitches |
| 19:46:45 | captain_proton | ? |
| 19:46:55 | sussudio | ask a simple fucking question, dont get a simple fucking answer |
| 19:47:08 | bzdoug | sussudio: haha |
| 19:47:17 | sussudio | my question was: "where do alsa sound modules come from" |
| 19:47:22 | sussudio | is that so hard? |
| 19:47:40 | sussudio | nobody could just answer "alsa-source" |
| 19:47:52 | sussudio | especially since alsa-source isnt even a package SUGGESTION with alsa-base |
| 19:48:20 | captain_proton | hmm, try a different distro ;) |
| 19:48:22 | sussudio | linux on the desktop my ass |
| 19:48:46 | captain_proton | gentoo works slick on a desktop |
| 19:48:51 | gonkulator{work} | is away: going home |
| 19:50:37 | Phactorial | You need to hear this |
| 19:50:39 | Phactorial | A friend of mine |
| 19:50:44 | Phactorial | Talented programmer I must say |
| 19:50:55 | Phactorial | Asked me to hook him up with a stable job over here |
| 19:50:56 | Phactorial | I found one |
| 19:51:02 | Phactorial | I told him to forward his CV |
| 19:51:06 | Phactorial | Look at what the genius added: |
| 19:51:11 | Phactorial | Interests and activities |
| 19:51:12 | Phactorial | System level programming, networks, viruses, hacking, mail bombing, mail faking, Denial of service, password cracking, trojans, software reverse engineering. |
| 19:51:24 | captain_proton | hahahahahaha |
| 19:51:25 | Phactorial | He likes "viruses", "mail bombing", "mail "faking"" |
| 19:51:55 | captain_proton | password cracking and trojans too |
| 19:52:01 | Phactorial | captain_proton: and this guy is not stupid...talked to him over the phone...smart guy, won many robotics programming contests, and knows his assembly |
| 19:52:02 | captain_proton | looks like you've got a live one |
| 19:52:09 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Though, it seems logic is not with him :) |
| 19:52:11 | Phactorial | lol |
| 19:52:14 | sussudio | Phactorial: do you know what a cluebat is? |
| 19:52:24 | Phactorial | sussudio: What? |
| 19:52:39 | sussudio | Phactorial: you beat him with a louisville slugger till he gets the point |
| 19:52:50 | captain_proton | hmm, i always use a wiffle bat |
| 19:53:05 | captain_proton | doesn't do as much damage, but it stings like hell and you can do it for longer |
| 19:53:11 | Phactorial | Currently running web www.loginmatrix.com started by me on computer security related information and hacking contest of Linux as well as Javascript/Java with huge hits.. |
| 19:53:12 | sussudio | maybe a cricket bat |
| 19:53:13 | Phactorial | Hrm... |
| 19:53:18 | Phactorial | He is the secret to "loginmatrix" |
| 19:53:24 | Phactorial | strings <binary>|less |
| 19:53:31 | Phactorial | Here is the secret that is |
| 19:53:43 | Phactorial | The employer will not know of that |
| 19:53:50 | Phactorial | The last bit I think I should remove for him :\ |
| 19:54:03 | Phactorial | That is just plain...it's much worst than stupid |
| 19:54:20 | captain_proton | Phactorial: 'system level programming, networks, software <stricken> engineering, mail bombing, robotics' |
| 19:55:19 | Phactorial | lol |
| 19:55:22 | Phactorial | mail bombing |
| 19:55:53 | Phactorial | He loves DoS as well |
| 19:56:09 | sussudio | dcc's Phactorial a 2 by 4 |
| 19:56:46 | captain_proton | Phactorial: i'm saying those are the things you should list under his interests ;) |
| 19:57:10 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I am sure Mail bombing looks beautiful in his resume |
| 19:57:19 | captain_proton | *nod* |
| 19:57:31 | captain_proton | omg...i feel so ptp-ey |
| 19:57:44 | captain_proton | nodding...its like an epidemic there |
| 19:57:45 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 19:57:51 | Phactorial | ptp-ey? |
| 19:57:56 | Phactorial | When did you every drop by PtP? |
| 19:58:06 | Phactorial | PtP is quickly losing it's "prettiness" |
| 19:58:19 | captain_proton | hmm, earlier this year |
| 19:58:26 | captain_proton | like march or so i hung out for a while |
| 19:58:33 | Phactorial | #C, #C++, #OSdev still has a couple of interesting topics |
| 19:58:53 | Phactorial | lamagra/HCl/all those...the rest talk about Britney Spears breasts and other diverse topics |
| 19:59:00 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I remember :) |
| 19:59:02 | captain_proton | there was very little of value there |
| 19:59:14 | captain_proton | most of it was just people thinking they were smarter than the rest of the world |
| 19:59:41 | captain_proton | i didn't get any respect until i replicated their spybot in one evening |
| 19:59:42 | Phactorial | zen-parse |
| 19:59:50 | Phactorial | Though, zen-parse owns... |
| 20:00:02 | Phactorial | I have yet to find him lacking in programming ability |
| 20:00:08 | Phactorial | He is an arrogant slut though |
| 20:00:17 | Phactorial | The rest are cool (the #C crew) |
| 20:00:21 | Phactorial | Now, captain_proton |
| 20:00:27 | Phactorial | You want to hear my ruleset idea? |
| 20:00:31 | captain_proton | why not |
| 20:01:04 | Phactorial | Ok |
| 20:01:32 | sussudio | i'd hate to see your friend apply to a job at mcdonalds..... |
| 20:01:49 | sussudio | "yeah i'm rude to customers, i spit on the burgers and i steal from the til...... do i have the job?" |
| 20:02:11 | bzdoug | puts sussudio into a headlock |
| 20:02:24 | captain_proton | bzdoug: thats not his head |
| 20:02:34 | captain_proton | try the other end |
| 20:02:37 | bzdoug | whoops, he dont have one |
| 20:02:55 | bzdoug | well, that end was talking |
| 20:03:14 | sussudio | Phactorial: try to tell him..... a CV is not for impressing your 14 year old circle of fwiends... you actually WANT the job |
| 20:03:43 | captain_proton | haha, fwiends |
| 20:03:57 | sussudio | supahfwiends. |
| 20:04:00 | Phactorial | system call policies. In order to write changes to it you must use the |
| 20:04:00 | Phactorial | userspace tools required, unless you are willing to learn the interface |
| 20:04:00 | Phactorial | of scp's ruleset. |
| 20:04:03 | Phactorial | Syntax of ruleset: |
| 20:04:05 | Phactorial | D\x00\x03\x00{*,*,0x31337}\x00\x7a69e\xf40*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00*\x00* |
| 20:04:09 | Phactorial | First byte: a DENY policy |
| 20:04:11 | Phactorial | Second: system call number |
| 20:04:13 | Phactorial | Arguments to make ruleset true: 31337 |
| 20:04:15 | Phactorial | or user to make ruleset true: 512 |
| 20:04:16 | bzdoug | now be vewey vewy qwuite |
| 20:04:17 | Phactorial | Woops |
| 20:04:30 | Phactorial | : /dev/scp is a character-based device in which you can change your current |
| 20:04:38 | Phactorial | No more of that :) |
| 20:04:42 | Phactorial | Sorry... |
| 20:05:01 | captain_proton | haha, three cheers for competance in pasting |
| 20:05:04 | Phactorial | captain_proton: \x < replace, 0x < replace (with actual hex values) |
| 20:05:17 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I always write READMEs first... |
| 20:05:35 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Now, what do you think of having the rule implemented as such? |
| 20:05:51 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Different ruleset "groups" (Deny, redirect, change environment) |
| 20:06:02 | captain_proton | oh Phactorial, you'll laugh - netsyn got banned from ao for commenting on a photo of jp and his mother, and he's DoSed the irc server once a night since then |
| 20:06:29 | Phactorial | captain_proton: The byte seperators are used to include some logic as well |
| 20:07:04 | Phactorial | captain_proton: ex: \xf4\x00 <- this is logical AND with the 4th rule |
| 20:07:20 | Phactorial | captain_proton: The high nibble represents the type of logic |
| 20:07:28 | Phactorial | captain_proton: the low nibble is the operand to it |
| 20:07:38 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:07:52 | captain_proton | so i could do both an argument and a user protection on a syscall |
| 20:07:59 | Phactorial | Yes |
| 20:08:03 | Phactorial | and those stars as well |
| 20:08:09 | Phactorial | Those are wildcards meaning we don't care |
| 20:08:24 | captain_proton | other than argument & user, are there any other criteria that can be set? |
| 20:08:35 | Phactorial | We could base it on local/remote users (x86 only), *id, pid (anything in the task structure) |
| 20:09:00 | Phactorial | Look at /usr/include/linux/sched.h |
| 20:09:07 | Phactorial | Generally, all those fields can be checked |
| 20:09:42 | Phactorial | You can also redirect system calls based on that and the actual system call |
| 20:09:45 | captain_proton | hmm, i'm fond of medusa's lid field |
| 20:09:51 | Phactorial | and change the "environment" |
| 20:10:15 | Phactorial | So you can specify to set callers uid to 0, or smack his euid to nobody, or just kill him :) |
| 20:10:30 | Phactorial | I haven't used Medusa before... |
| 20:10:50 | Phactorial | What criteria does it support for system call policies? |
| 20:11:24 | captain_proton | everything you've got plus you can implement state machines of a sort in their configuration language |
| 20:11:27 | captain_proton | medusa = thexy |
| 20:11:40 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Everything as in what I stated? |
| 20:11:59 | captain_proton | Phactorial: yeah |
| 20:11:59 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Does it support system call redirection? environment changes? |
| 20:12:05 | captain_proton | yep |
| 20:12:11 | Phactorial | captain_proton: I suck so much :| |
| 20:12:13 | captain_proton | it supports something even cooler - code forcing |
| 20:12:25 | Phactorial | captain_proton: Code forcing? What is that? kernel function hooking? |
| 20:12:42 | captain_proton | you write some code - the time i used it was a password authentication schemet |
| 20:12:51 | captain_proton | then when they do something, you tell it to force that code |
| 20:13:22 | captain_proton | i did a test where when any program tried to access /dev/mem, it asked for a password |
| 20:13:45 | Phactorial | System call redirection <- |
| 20:13:56 | captain_proton | better than system call redirection |
| 20:14:15 | captain_proton | because you can write your own code without modifying the kernel portions |
| 20:14:33 | Phactorial | Hrm... |
| 20:14:39 | Phactorial | It executes your code in userspace? |
| 20:14:48 | captain_proton | yep |
| 20:14:57 | Phactorial | So you had to have an executable |
| 20:15:07 | Phactorial | Redirect the system call to execve(...) :D |
| 20:15:08 | captain_proton | it just forces a jmp to the code, then when your function returns it goes back to wherever it was |
| 20:15:17 | captain_proton | ewe |
| 20:15:27 | Phactorial | It can't just "jump" |
| 20:15:39 | captain_proton | well its somewhat trickier |
| 20:15:41 | Phactorial | There on completely different rings... |
| 20:15:45 | Phactorial | They're that is |
| 20:15:53 | captain_proton | the program that you're forcing is in userspace |
| 20:15:59 | Phactorial | Yes |
| 20:16:25 | captain_proton | the kernel loads the forced elf into the program's memory space |
| 20:16:34 | captain_proton | now i must be off |
| 20:16:55 | Phactorial | THe program's memory space? You mean the calling program (the one that is currently executing that system call)? |
| 20:16:57 | Phactorial | Answer that |
| 20:17:00 | Phactorial | Then you may be off :) |
| 20:17:03 | captain_proton | yes |
| 20:17:06 | Phactorial | Nice |
| 20:17:12 | captain_proton | as i said, thexy |
| 20:17:13 | Phactorial | Maybe I will implement |
| 20:17:29 | Phactorial | It is not anything difficult (/usr/include/sched.h again :D) |
| 20:17:33 | Phactorial | Ok, bye captain_proton |
| 20:17:36 | Phactorial | Thanks... |
| 20:17:44 | Phactorial | I think I will take a look at Medusa sometime soon |
| 20:22:51 | Phactorial | I am off |
| 20:22:58 | Phactorial | Might be back in a couple of minutes |
| 20:23:01 | Phactorial | Might not |
| 20:31:13 | sussudio | :-P laser campers |
| 20:31:17 | sussudio | i think i invented them |
| 20:31:35 | sussudio | or gave the opportunity anyway |
| 20:32:10 | patlabor221 | need a game mode that puts a tent over anyone who dosn't move more then a certan distnace in a certan time and keeps the same flag. |
| 20:32:40 | bzdoug | ? |
| 20:32:40 | sussudio | hmm tent |
| 20:32:54 | bzdoug | like a camping thing? |
| 20:33:04 | [dmp] | heh |
| 20:33:06 | patlabor221 | what else would it be? |
| 20:33:28 | bzdoug | anti person who dont move device |
| 20:33:47 | sussudio | we'll called it the "Dukot Tent" |
| 20:33:58 | patlabor221 | and a little camp fire |
| 20:34:01 | patlabor221 | with hotdogs |
| 20:34:03 | bzdoug | HAHA |
| 20:34:33 | sussudio | how about a point subtracted for every minute you sit still |
| 20:34:44 | Cell_prog_insect | oh i discovered a cool www site :) |
| 20:34:50 | bzdoug | or with in like 10 units |
| 20:35:14 | patlabor221 | for that you would hav to call it "speedball" |
| 20:35:22 | patlabor221 | what site would that be cell? |
| 20:35:25 | bzdoug | haha |
| 20:36:47 | Cell_prog_insect | http://www.sellsbrothers.com/products/#regexd a regular expression builder help |
| 20:37:17 | bzdoug | TLM.... whois TLM.... |
| 20:37:30 | TLM | someone that likes to play bzflag |
| 20:37:34 | sussudio | the lone maggot? |
| 20:37:35 | bzdoug | cool |
| 20:37:42 | bzdoug | sussudio: har har |
| 20:37:48 | TLM | close 1 of 3 words correct |
| 20:37:54 | TLM | the lost minded |
| 20:37:58 | patlabor221 | last magot |
| 20:38:09 | bzdoug | LOL |
| 20:39:58 | Cell_prog_insect | shit my system i slooow noow |
| 20:40:36 | Cell_prog_insect | Not Responding |
| 20:41:09 | Cell_prog_insect | ahh recovered :) |
| 20:41:43 | Cell_prog_insect | hate it when i click all windows like crazy and no reaction |
| 20:42:28 | Cell_prog_insect | a supercool link: http://www.exocortex.org/3dengine/ |
| 20:44:29 | patlabor221 | I'd just call that regular cool, not super cool |
| 20:44:46 | patlabor221 | I mean it is c# and all |
| 20:45:04 | patlabor221 | so that makes it a bit warmer then superconducting temeratures. |
| 20:45:39 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, but it has educational value for me, because source is supplied |
| 20:45:50 | patlabor221 | well coolness is relitive. |
| 20:48:07 | Cell_prog_insect | but i still want to get my question answered:how the hell do i as programmer know if a fuction parameter is altered in the function body if i dont have the source and can not use const :( buuuu. |
| 20:48:12 | sussudio | in west virginia everyone is relative |
| 20:49:37 | patlabor221 | cell: what? |
| 20:49:41 | patlabor221 | what do you mean alterd? |
| 20:50:01 | patlabor221 | yes there they are, I've been to WVA it's scary |
| 20:50:34 | Cell_prog_insect | changed, if i pass a pointer or ref of a object instance as parameter, how do i know if the function changes the instance or not, c+++ solves this with the const keyword |
| 20:50:35 | patlabor221 | you just make sure that you don't alter it for ones that arnt' suposed to |
| 20:50:46 | patlabor221 | you write the function |
| 20:50:48 | patlabor221 | don't change it |
| 20:50:54 | patlabor221 | C++ dosn't solve it |
| 20:51:06 | scanline | is back (gone 05:04:53) |
| 20:51:06 | patlabor221 | it just makes it so the compiler bitches |
| 20:51:22 | patlabor221 | you just have to be smart and carefull |
| 20:51:44 | Cell_prog_insect | i cant i give u an example: |
| 20:52:03 | patlabor221 | you can't be carefull? |
| 20:52:20 | patlabor221 | don't send in a pointer |
| 20:52:24 | patlabor221 | send in the thing |
| 20:52:33 | Cell_prog_insect | but then i get slow |
| 20:52:42 | patlabor221 | welcome to the suckyness of your language |
| 20:52:50 | patlabor221 | C# is not made for code optimisations |
| 20:53:14 | Cell_prog_insect | yes thats true c# sucks because of this, why the hell it was so nice, and now |
| 20:53:18 | patlabor221 | I've done lots of C and C++ work without const |
| 20:53:28 | bzdoug | haha |
| 20:53:42 | bzdoug | that 3d engine demo have a option: force app crash |
| 20:53:54 | patlabor221 | I can't think of a NEED for it, I can see things that are nicer becasue of it, and it helps find bugs |
| 20:54:00 | patlabor221 | but you never NEED it |
| 20:54:04 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 20:54:46 | | 42 is the answer |
| 20:54:46 | bzdoug | ibot 42 |
| 20:54:52 | patlabor221 | damn right |
| 20:54:54 | Cell_prog_insect | bzdoug:did u try it? |
| 20:55:03 | bzdoug | yea |
| 20:55:06 | Cell_prog_insect | and? |
| 20:55:08 | bzdoug | very cool looking |
| 20:55:19 | Cell_prog_insect | i mean did it crash? |
| 20:55:34 | bzdoug | oh, when I clicked the crash button, it crashed |
| 20:55:44 | Cell_prog_insect | but it has no shadows :( |
| 20:55:47 | bzdoug | it gave an error |
| 20:55:56 | Cell_prog_insect | what a joke |
| 20:56:01 | bzdoug | heh |
| 20:56:01 | patlabor221 | the editor? |
| 20:56:06 | patlabor221 | why would it need shadows |
| 20:56:12 | patlabor221 | that would make editing harder |
| 20:56:16 | Cell_prog_insect | no |
| 20:56:21 | bzdoug | hmm, maybe a preview mode would be nice |
| 20:56:26 | patlabor221 | ohh that engine? |
| 20:56:29 | Cell_prog_insect | the c# 3d engine |
| 20:56:36 | patlabor221 | doug. run the game |
| 20:56:55 | patlabor221 | acutaly a button to run an instance of BZ with the current map would be nice |
| 20:57:09 | bzdoug | yea |
| 20:57:12 | bzdoug | like that |
| 20:57:39 | patlabor221 | it would just have to know where to put the file and then fire off the command |
| 20:57:48 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 20:58:03 | bzdoug | it would have to start a server AND run bzflag to the right server |
| 20:58:14 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:58:29 | patlabor221 | and this is hard becasue? |
| 20:58:47 | bzdoug | your the coder, you do it, I dont know the first thing about C+++ |
| 20:58:50 | bzdoug | ++ |
| 20:59:01 | patlabor221 | I may add that |
| 20:59:09 | bzdoug | :) |
| 20:59:15 | patlabor221 | or I may not |
| 20:59:25 | bzdoug | :( |
| 20:59:41 | patlabor221 | or I may add something completly difrent |
| 20:59:49 | bzdoug | :| |
| 20:59:59 | bzdoug | like groups? |
| 20:59:59 | bzdoug | :P |
| 21:00:00 | patlabor221 | like perhaps a cheese-wizz oject |
| 21:00:08 | bzdoug | oooh, ahhhh |
| 21:00:57 | sussudio | laserhell anyone? |
| 21:01:03 | bzdoug | ahh |
| 21:01:32 | bzdoug | laserhell;goto laserhell |
| 21:02:20 | Cell_prog_insect | //c++ source |
| 21:02:20 | Cell_prog_insect | class Plane |
| 21:02:20 | Cell_prog_insect | { |
| 21:02:20 | Cell_prog_insect | Point3D * pOrigin, |
| 21:02:20 | Cell_prog_insect | Vector3D * pNormal; |
| 21:02:21 | Cell_prog_insect | bool normalized; |
| 21:02:23 | Cell_prog_insect | /* |
| 21:02:25 | Cell_prog_insect | constructor |
| 21:02:27 | Cell_prog_insect | */ |
| 21:02:29 | Cell_prog_insect | Vector3D * getNormal(){ normalized=false;return pNormal};//ok in c# |
| 21:02:31 | Cell_prog_insect | //Problem in c# because no const |
| 21:02:33 | Cell_prog_insect | const Vector3D * getNormal(){ return pNormal} const; |
| 21:02:35 | Cell_prog_insect | } |
| 21:02:53 | Cell_prog_insect | u see there is no efficient workaround |
| 21:03:48 | patlabor221 | make the function take the vector as a paramater refrence |
| 21:03:58 | patlabor221 | just do it difrentely |
| 21:04:07 | patlabor221 | and do the copy |
| 21:04:36 | patlabor221 | if you don't want them to mess with it then make them copy it |
| 21:05:23 | patlabor221 | or just expose the member and make sure you don't mess with it outside |
| 21:05:39 | Cell_prog_insect | yes ok :make the function take the vector as a paramater refrence would work but then i could not write cool syntax like this: float dotprod =aPlane.getNormal()* aVector; |
| 21:06:29 | patlabor221 | again your language sucks |
| 21:06:43 | Cell_prog_insect | yes i know it now |
| 21:06:48 | patlabor221 | then expose it and just don't modify it |
| 21:07:05 | patlabor221 | just means you can't be a lazy programer |
| 21:07:20 | Cell_prog_insect | hmm, k |
| 21:08:47 | Cell_prog_insect | hm i have found the c# compiler + language developers and write them a mail with some of my problems asking them for appropriete solutions if any |
| 21:09:01 | patlabor221 | you mean Microsoft? |
| 21:09:16 | Cell_prog_insect | yes its a devteam from microsoft |
| 21:09:44 | Cell_prog_insect | http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/csharp/team/default.aspx |
| 21:10:26 | Cell_prog_insect | since i could nor find an irc channel where ppl are discussing c# :( |
| 21:10:29 | patlabor221 | I think any language has to be around for at least 2 years before it's realy usefull and proven |
| 21:10:52 | patlabor221 | needs time to work the kinks out |
| 21:11:03 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, could be, butthey started working on it 4-5years ago |
| 21:11:22 | Cell_prog_insect | just right after java gots so popular |
| 21:11:23 | patlabor221 | no that's when they started working oj J++2.0 |
| 21:11:39 | patlabor221 | the changed it to c# about a year ago |
| 21:11:54 | patlabor221 | and I am talking about being in publuc use |
| 21:12:01 | patlabor221 | it's only been out a year |
| 21:12:20 | bzdoug | you know of any free IMAP servers |
| 21:12:21 | Cell_prog_insect | yes but i watched an interviw with and they said they started it 4 year ago |
| 21:12:21 | bzdoug | ? |
| 21:12:32 | patlabor221 | well they would say that |
| 21:12:43 | patlabor221 | but it was going to be J++ 2.0 |
| 21:12:57 | patlabor221 | but then they go suied by sun so they changed the name |
| 21:13:09 | Cell_prog_insect | hmm makes sense |
| 21:13:11 | patlabor221 | and added some more stuff since they could move awway from java |
| 21:13:29 | patlabor221 | they didn't sit down 4 years ago and say "lets make a new language" |
| 21:13:43 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 21:14:13 | patlabor221 | it was origonaly designed to just run on webservers as a VB replacement in ASP pages. |
| 21:14:27 | patlabor221 | but it has been expanded to managed apps |
| 21:14:39 | Cell_prog_insect | ok |
| 21:14:46 | patlabor221 | and now regular apps it seems |
| 21:15:56 | patlabor221 | it's kinda cool that it can do all the things that people are doing with it |
| 21:16:05 | patlabor221 | I just don't think that it's the optimal thing |
| 21:18:39 | Cell_prog_insect | i has a really cool framework and it handles so many things for u, simplifies making components |
| 21:18:51 | Cell_prog_insect | its so nice |
| 21:19:00 | Cell_prog_insect | but no const |
| 21:19:14 | patlabor221 | simplifies, that means that you lose control. |
| 21:19:21 | patlabor221 | and the ability to optimise |
| 21:19:38 | patlabor221 | and it forces you to do it there way. |
| 21:19:54 | patlabor221 | sounds like it's not general pourpose. |
| 21:22:04 | Cell_prog_insect | hmm, but it enables me for the first time , thanks to it nice framework and thenks to it c# language features, to write robust and cool stuff within a short time. |
| 21:22:33 | patlabor221 | if you had the same framework in another language as an API could you not do the same thing? |
| 21:23:04 | patlabor221 | sounds like you like the .net framework more then the language |
| 21:23:31 | Cell_prog_insect | i mean if i need asp, or ado, or xml or remote objects or internet communication, its so cool easy and well organized, and all together, not a separate special purpose libray fo each aspect |
| 21:23:38 | scanline | is away: Dave... my mind is going... |
| 21:24:04 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:05) |
| 21:24:07 | patlabor221 | does sound like a nice API |
| 21:24:18 | patlabor221 | but I don't see how that is C# specific |
| 21:24:26 | patlabor221 | they just chose to put it all in C# |
| 21:24:34 | Cell_prog_insect | i like the language very much, since it is easy to use, and very powerful, but i miss the const keyword |
| 21:24:59 | patlabor221 | well maybe they will add it when it grows up |
| 21:25:15 | ksuther | does the current version of bzflag work on os x? |
| 21:25:50 | patlabor221 | I think someone is doing a port |
| 21:26:02 | Cell_prog_insect | no its all put in the intermadiate language, so u can use any language syntax too take full advantage of the dot .net framework |
| 21:26:14 | ksuther | hm, ok |
| 21:26:18 | ksuther | cause i wanna try it :-p |
| 21:26:25 | patlabor221 | check the sourceforge page |
| 21:26:29 | patlabor221 | it has all the OSs |
| 21:26:33 | Cell_prog_insect | i.e. i have installed visual perl, so i can write it all in perl instead of c# using per syntax |
| 21:26:45 | ksuther | yea, the osx port doesn't run |
| 21:26:48 | ksuther | it crashes after it loads |
| 21:26:55 | patlabor221 | then there is your anwer :) |
| 21:26:55 | ksuther | on 10.2 this is |
| 21:27:05 | patlabor221 | that's what I hear |
| 21:27:11 | patlabor221 | I don't know who was working on that |
| 21:27:20 | ksuther | ok |
| 21:27:20 | patlabor221 | cell did they expose it to c++? |
| 21:27:24 | ksuther | i'll just be patient |
| 21:27:24 | ksuther | :) |
| 21:38:54 | sussudio | muhaha |
| 21:40:10 | sussudio | hmm it doesnt do the map drawings anymore? |
| 21:40:30 | BZFlag | ksuther: multiple monitors? there might be a problem with that. |
| 21:41:00 | ksuther | nope |
| 21:41:07 | ksuther | one monitor |
| 21:41:35 | sussudio | jzaun? |
| 21:45:18 | sussudio | hmm |
| 21:46:04 | Cell_prog_insect | patlabor221:yes they did expose it to c++ |
| 21:46:09 | sussudio | ugh |
| 21:46:11 | jzaun | sry... i'm here |
| 21:46:19 | sussudio | it's upside down and mirrored |
| 21:46:24 | sussudio | waaaah |
| 21:47:06 | sussudio | hmm it's just like the map drawing is flipped over |
| 21:47:41 | Cell_prog_insect | has someone bought the AT&T natural synthetic voices, they sound really cool |
| 21:48:13 | Cell_prog_insect | http://www.naturalvoices.att.com |
| 21:49:08 | sussudio | hmz looks like IE doesnt like http://jzaun.com/bzflag2/getmap.php?mapid=51 |
| 21:50:04 | Cell_prog_insect | try listen, to all the voices , scroll down to natural voices and compare: http://www.readplease.com/rpdemo.phtml |
| 21:50:59 | Cell_prog_insect | cool |
| 22:11:27 | jzaun | lrig, How are you tonight? |
| 22:11:41 | bzgirl | :) |
| 22:11:47 | bzgirl | hi jz |
| 22:11:55 | bzgirl | i am doing good! |
| 22:12:11 | jzaun | So did you like that map last night? |
| 22:12:15 | bzgirl | is opening the box yo her new notebook |
| 22:12:28 | bzgirl | yeah that map was pretty cool |
| 22:12:41 | jzaun | ooh... pack it back up and send it to me :-) |
| 22:12:42 | bzgirl | lots of varied features, your map? |
| 22:12:48 | jzaun | yah |
| 22:12:58 | bzgirl | maybe you can have my old one :) |
| 22:13:15 | jzaun | I got the plans all drawn up for a new one, just have to find the time to make it.... gonna take a good bit |
| 22:13:38 | jzaun | If I could drag blocks around with the mouse, it would be much easier though |
| 22:13:52 | bzgirl | yeah that'd be great! |
| 22:17:41 | jzaun | hey SpacemanSpiff |
| 22:18:23 | jzaun | SpacemanSpiff: you can add all the alpha-numaric comments you like, but the ~*~*~*~ stuff makes the server not want to load your maps |
| 22:18:26 | SpacemanSpiff | Hey man |
| 22:18:46 | SpacemanSpiff | Okay..... I'm just going to put _____ by Spaceman Spiff on them |
| 22:18:50 | SpacemanSpiff | That's ok, right? |
| 22:19:11 | jzaun | Need a # as the first character |
| 22:19:20 | jzaun | # By SpacemanSpiff |
| 22:21:24 | SpacemanSpiff | Okay so #____________ |
| 22:21:30 | SpacemanSpiff | #By Spaceman Spiff |
| 22:21:32 | SpacemanSpiff | Right? |
| 22:21:45 | SpacemanSpiff | (it's two seperate lines) |
| 22:21:53 | jzaun | Right |
| 22:22:10 | jzaun | did you have a # in from of all your comment lines currently? |
| 22:22:13 | SpacemanSpiff | Okie :-) |
| 22:22:25 | SpacemanSpiff | No... but I'm fixin' that right now |
| 22:22:28 | jzaun | oh |
| 22:22:36 | jzaun | then # ~*~*~*~*~*~* would work too |
| 22:23:27 | SpacemanSpiff | Hehe... oh well, no worries... I already took the other stuff out.. it was unnecessary :o) |
| 22:23:59 | SpacemanSpiff | Oh... and in "Shake time" (on stats.bzflag.org) are the numbers seconds??? |
| 22:24:18 | jzaun | yes |
| 22:24:22 | SpacemanSpiff | Okay |
| 22:26:04 | sussudio | gah |
| 22:26:27 | sussudio | jzaun: why is your getmap.php doing a vertical flip on the map? |
| 22:26:50 | jzaun | sussudio: just the way the map graphic is drawn |
| 22:26:59 | sussudio | :-| |
| 22:27:05 | jzaun | sussudio: want me to put the effort in to flip it? |
| 22:27:09 | sussudio | it kinda defeats my hidden messages |
| 22:27:20 | jzaun | sussudio: oh |
| 22:27:20 | sussudio | ohwell |
| 22:27:26 | jzaun | sussudio: I'll work on flipping it |
| 22:27:29 | sussudio | people will notice on the map |
| 22:27:30 | sussudio | k tnx |
| 22:28:30 | SpacemanSpiff | OKie |
| 22:28:34 | SpacemanSpiff | finished fixing them |
| 22:28:55 | SpacemanSpiff | Could you do me a favor and make sure they're ok jzaun? |
| 22:29:22 | jzaun | SpacemanSpiff: can't till the server tries to load them, if the lines start with # they should be |
| 22:29:41 | SpacemanSpiff | Okay :-) |
| 22:29:53 | SpacemanSpiff | Well, I'm off to dinner.. I'll be back soon |
| 22:30:03 | SpacemanSpiff | God bless you all! :-) |
| 22:30:06 | SpacemanSpiff | Bye |
| 23:12:31 | bzdoug | yawns |
| 23:19:09 | sussudio | kills bzdoug for yawning |
| 23:19:21 | bzdoug | had his shields up |
| 23:20:20 | captain_proton | he didn't say '*sussudio tries to kill bzdoug for yawning but is stopped by the shields', so obviously he got through |
| 23:20:53 | bzdoug | he THINKS he got through, but that was my duplicate hologram |
| 23:21:16 | sussudio | rm /dev/bzdoug |
| 23:21:37 | bzdoug | I come back everytime you reboot |
| 23:21:56 | sussudio | no you dont |
| 23:22:15 | bzdoug | cp sussudio /dev/null | remove sussudio |
| 23:22:46 | captain_proton | cp sussudio /dev/null does nothing you windows-using kiddie |
| 23:22:52 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 23:23:00 | bzdoug | rm sussudio |
| 23:23:05 | bzdoug | there you picky person |
| 23:23:06 | sussudio | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/bzdoug |
| 23:23:21 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 23:23:52 | bzdoug | cat /dev/joystick > /dev/sussudio |
| 23:24:06 | sussudio | that doesnt do anything |
| 23:24:18 | bzdoug | YES! |
| 23:24:21 | bzdoug | chears |
| 23:24:34 | bzgirl | hey any of you guys run debian? |
| 23:24:38 | bzdoug | moves himself to another computer so sussudio cant rm me |
| 23:24:55 | bzdoug | bzgirl: debian? whats debian? |
| 23:25:00 | bzgirl | :) |
| 23:25:07 | sussudio | bzdoug forgot the rules of "how not to be seen" |
| 23:25:13 | sussudio | watches bzdoug blow up |
| 23:25:22 | bzdoug | thats a SEP |
| 23:25:26 | lurgyman | ducks as four large chunks fly his way |
| 23:25:32 | sussudio | sep? |
| 23:25:43 | bzdoug | sussudio: YOU DONT KNOW WHAT A SEP IS? |
| 23:25:46 | lurgyman | 's ducks are unhappy at being hit by the chunks |
| 23:25:59 | bzdoug | lurgyman: hehe |
| 23:26:18 | lurgyman | 's ducks are coming after him! run, lurgyman, run! |
| 23:26:23 | lurgyman | aah |
| 23:26:28 | bzdoug | lol |
| 23:27:10 | sussudio | american history is kinda lame |
| 23:27:22 | bzdoug | so is sussudio's |
| 23:27:32 | sussudio | there's hardly any material |
| 23:27:38 | sussudio | so they make up stuff...... |
| 23:27:43 | sussudio | "lincoln took a big dump here" |
| 23:27:44 | bzdoug | like what? |
| 23:27:48 | sussudio | (and the people rejoice) |
| 23:27:48 | bzdoug | HAHA |
| 23:28:56 | bzdoug | food = ["spam","spam","eggs","sausages","spam"] |
| 23:28:56 | bzdoug | print food[2:4] |
| 23:29:10 | SpacemanSpiff | Hey jzaun... my "Towers" world is on your server right now... come check it out? |
| 23:31:29 | bzdoug | oooh, dinner! |
| 23:31:35 | bzdoug | is away: dinnah time |
| 23:34:36 | lurgyman | nothing could ever be as bad as chemistry, not even american history |
| 23:34:46 | lurgyman | although, maybe biology... |
| 23:35:04 | Patlabor221 | Media and Society. |
| 23:35:07 | Patlabor221 | that one is bad |
| 23:35:18 | lurgyman | nah, you can sleep through something like that |
| 23:35:21 | lurgyman | but chemistry |
| 23:35:24 | Patlabor221 | no then you fail |
| 23:35:26 | lurgyman | pukes all over floor |
| 23:35:29 | Patlabor221 | chem was easy |
| 23:35:37 | lurgyman | then has to clean it up with a strong base |
| 23:35:38 | Patlabor221 | just got to blow stuff up |
| 23:35:51 | lurgyman | chem isn't hard, it's just evil, with it's pseudo-math |
| 23:36:00 | lurgyman | besides, ChE majors are all pyromaniacs |
| 23:36:04 | lurgyman | at least, the male ones are |
| 23:36:17 | Patlabor221 | you must be some sort of arts major |
| 23:36:20 | lurgyman | no |
| 23:36:26 | lurgyman | EE / ECE |
| 23:36:37 | Patlabor221 | then chem should be a snap |
| 23:36:43 | Patlabor221 | it's just micro physics |
| 23:36:45 | lurgyman | it's not hard |
| 23:36:47 | lurgyman | just evil |
| 23:36:55 | Patlabor221 | no englich is evil |
| 23:36:56 | lurgyman | it uses practically no real math |
| 23:37:03 | lurgyman | i can do english |
| 23:37:06 | Patlabor221 | I cna't |
| 23:37:07 | lurgyman | i'll take it over chem |
| 23:37:14 | lurgyman | apprently |
| 23:37:19 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 23:37:28 | Patlabor221 | but then I never did get a degree |
| 23:37:40 | lurgyman | :) |
| 23:37:55 | lurgyman | i'll be here for at least 5 years before i get one :( |
| 23:38:13 | lurgyman | i'm a lunatic. ha. double degree. SHFNOOOO!!! |
| 23:38:14 | Patlabor221 | well at least I don't have studen loans |
| 23:38:22 | lurgyman | i don't... yet... |
| 23:38:30 | lurgyman | when money runs out. |
| 23:38:31 | lurgyman | POP! |
| 23:38:37 | lurgyman | there go the student loans |
| 23:38:40 | lurgyman | POP! POP! POP! |
| 23:38:54 | Patlabor221 | and I can say I have a good job in my chosen field. |
| 23:38:56 | Patlabor221 | so that's good |
| 23:39:01 | lurgyman | chosen field = ? |
| 23:39:20 | Patlabor221 | knowing it all |
| 23:39:25 | lurgyman | right5 |
| 23:39:29 | Patlabor221 | answering questions |
| 23:39:37 | Patlabor221 | keeper of the obscure |
| 23:39:37 | lurgyman | tech support |
| 23:39:41 | lurgyman | ? |
| 23:39:45 | Patlabor221 | not any more thankfully |
| 23:39:48 | lurgyman | ah |
| 23:39:54 | lurgyman | my aunt does tech support for oracle |
| 23:39:55 | Patlabor221 | and I bust out some code every so often |
| 23:39:59 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 23:40:02 | Patlabor221 | I did it for 5 years |
| 23:40:08 | Patlabor221 | at the company I am at now |
| 23:40:15 | lurgyman | big company? |
| 23:40:21 | Patlabor221 | like 50 people |
| 23:40:25 | lurgyman | massive. |
| 23:40:44 | lurgyman | tee hee hoddle ha. |
| 23:40:46 | Patlabor221 | not realy |
| 23:41:04 | Patlabor221 | we all fit in one 2 story building |
| 23:41:37 | lurgyman | sounds like our dorm, if the number of people per square meter was lower |
| 23:41:40 | lurgyman | in ours |
| 23:42:06 | Patlabor221 | I think my cube may be more space then you get per person per room |
| 23:42:12 | lurgyman | let's see... |
| 23:42:22 | Patlabor221 | well that and I have anexed the cube behind me |
| 23:42:27 | Patlabor221 | ours are 8x9 |
| 23:42:36 | lurgyman | 14x11 for 2 fokes |
| 23:43:10 | Patlabor221 | you have 5 more square feet |
| 23:43:22 | Patlabor221 | per person |
| 23:43:39 | Patlabor221 | 77 each |
| 23:43:43 | lurgyman | wow |
| 23:43:44 | Patlabor221 | to my 72 |
| 23:43:49 | lurgyman | i feel so... empowered and spaceful |
| 23:44:09 | Patlabor221 | yes but when I am done I get to go to my own 2 bedroom apartment |
| 23:44:09 | lurgyman | i'll bet you don't have a bed in your cube though :) |
| 23:44:16 | lurgyman | :( |
| 23:44:24 | Patlabor221 | Used to have a couch in the one behind it |
| 23:44:46 | lurgyman | :n |
| 23:44:58 | Patlabor221 | and a TV |
| 23:44:58 | lurgyman | (that one's me sitting here having a nose) |
| 23:45:02 | Patlabor221 | and a dreamcast |
| 23:45:09 | lurgyman | well... proton has a 21" monitor |
| 23:45:13 | lurgyman | with a tv tuner card |
| 23:45:38 | lurgyman | and i have my pathetic 15"er |
| 23:45:42 | Patlabor221 | ouch |
| 23:45:47 | Patlabor221 | how do you function? |
| 23:46:04 | lurgyman | at a lower resolution |
| 23:46:13 | lurgyman | :$ |
| 23:46:14 | Patlabor221 | it must be painfull |
| 23:46:21 | Patlabor221 | like having one nut |
| 23:46:28 | lurgyman | (that's me getting attacked by two snakes) |
| 23:46:42 | lurgyman | :@ |
| 23:46:52 | lurgyman | (that's what happens when a black hole gets stuck in my mouth) |
| 23:46:52 | Patlabor221 | beat them with the mouse |
| 23:46:58 | Patlabor221 | it'll confuse them |
| 23:47:02 | lurgyman | nah |
| 23:47:07 | lurgyman | i only beat off the rat race with a mouse |
| 23:47:13 | lurgyman | don't want to waste it |
| 23:47:23 | lurgyman | unlesss... |
| 23:47:25 | lurgyman | no |
| 23:47:29 | lurgyman | i don't want to waste it |
| 23:47:48 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't go awway when you use it |
| 23:47:58 | lurgyman | problem is, |
| 23:48:07 | lurgyman | when you beat a mouse against something, it dies sooner or later |
| 23:48:18 | lurgyman | it's a living creature |
| 23:48:20 | Patlabor221 | not if it's allready dead |
| 23:48:24 | Patlabor221 | or undead |
| 23:48:32 | Patlabor221 | those are the most durable |
| 23:48:33 | lurgyman | but then it doesn't squeek when it hits things |
| 23:48:41 | Patlabor221 | the undead ones doo |
| 23:48:48 | lurgyman | hmmm... |
| 23:48:52 | Patlabor221 | but then there is the slime |
| 23:48:54 | lurgyman | know where i can find a weremouse? |
| 23:49:01 | lurgyman | or dracumouse? |
| 23:49:10 | Patlabor221 | were creatures are not undead |
| 23:49:10 | lurgyman | or mousenstein? |
| 23:49:23 | Patlabor221 | the drac would be |
| 23:49:52 | lurgyman | you know what sucks? |
| 23:49:56 | lurgyman | vacuum cleaners |
| 23:50:03 | sussudio | airlocks suck too |
| 23:50:05 | lurgyman | you know what sucks even more? |
| 23:50:13 | lurgyman | vacuum cleaners with black holes in them |
| 23:50:15 | Patlabor221 | 2$ whores? |
| 23:50:20 | sussudio | 2 dollah? |
| 23:50:31 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:50:45 | lurgyman | you know what sucks yet more? |
| 23:50:52 | sussudio | beans? |
| 23:50:54 | lurgyman | galactic-core black holes |
| 23:50:57 | Patlabor221 | $125 whores. |
| 23:51:25 | lurgyman | i think the galactic-core black holes would win in a duel |
| 23:51:35 | lurgyman | and then they would suck even more |
| 23:51:37 | Patlabor221 | you never know |
| 23:51:51 | sussudio | what about ballmer's awesome suction power to bill's ass? |
| 23:52:03 | lurgyman | hmmm... got me there |
| 23:52:25 | sussudio | he sucked so hard his hair fell out |
| 23:52:30 | Patlabor221 | that man is a complete puppet. |
| 23:52:32 | lurgyman | :] |
| 23:52:38 | Patlabor221 | I htink he's artifical |
| 23:52:50 | lurgyman | well, it would be pretty gross if he was only a half-puppet |
| 23:52:59 | sussudio | like a muppet? |
| 23:53:00 | lurgyman | the living half would bleed all over the puppet half |
| 23:53:40 | lurgyman | on a completely different vein... |
| 23:53:49 | lurgyman | it seems that the bush family has it in for ol' saddam |
| 23:53:53 | Patlabor221 | wow, who would make a 3d engine in Delphi. |
| 23:54:03 | sussudio | that's kinda ironic |
| 23:54:04 | lurgyman | bob dole? |
| 23:54:09 | sussudio | since bush senior put him there |
| 23:54:14 | lurgyman | yup |
| 23:54:30 | lurgyman | i wonder what saddy did to piss off the bushes so much |
| 23:54:56 | sussudio | he wouldnt lend them his hairdryer anymore |
| 23:55:07 | lurgyman | oh, yeah |
| 23:55:13 | lurgyman | or he made bush sr. eat broccoli |
| 23:55:20 | sussudio | same reason as david lee roth with van halen |
| 23:55:30 | lurgyman | then gave bush jr. an iq test |
| 23:55:40 | sussudio | dont you need an iq for that? |
| 23:56:03 | lurgyman | dubbya's glass of water took it for him |
| 23:56:09 | lurgyman | beat him on 9 out of 10 questions |
| 23:56:15 | lurgyman | the other one the water didn't answer |
| 23:56:24 | lurgyman | neither did bush |
| 23:56:38 | lurgyman | the whole "your name here" thing probably never got through to either of them |
| 23:57:06 | Patlabor221 | ofta and they have a very odd page |
| 23:57:28 | lurgyman | yes indeedy |
| 23:57:38 | lurgyman | musick theory homework is evil |
| 23:57:48 | lurgyman | pork! |
| 23:58:15 | lurgyman | calculus homework time for dan |
| 23:58:39 | sussudio | ibot x en de poop |
| 23:58:50 | | sussudio: poop |
| 23:58:59 | sussudio | nein |
| 23:59:16 | sussudio | ibot x de en scheisse |
| 23:59:22 | | sussudio: shits |