irclog2html for bzflag on 2002.09.22

irclog2html for bzflag on 2002.09.22 00:00:02 bob dole is nothing but a tofu-nibbling quart of hacked-up Stimpy-drool. 00:00:02 lurgyman ibot: insult bob dole 00:09:05 lurgyman is nothing but a milk-livered bucket of festering yoo-hoo. 00:09:05 sussudio ibot insult lurgyman 00:24:50 lurgyman not yoohoo. you will pay for this, sussudio. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, and maybe even not next week, 00:24:56 lurgyman but soon, and for the rest of your life 00:25:11 lurgyman here's looking at goo, kid 00:25:41 sussudio: i'm not following you... 00:25:41 sussudio ibot poop on lurgyman 00:33:11 april lavigne is nothing but a dankish ass-full of hacked-up squirrel guts. 00:33:11 sussudio ibot insult april lavigne 00:33:23 doughecka yuk 01:31:42 Widget What's with everyone getting up so early? 01:39:13 paul out of hours 01:39:29 Widget It must be to follow the German elections! 01:45:11 paul you seem to /always/ be on irc widget.. never sleep? 01:45:14 Patlabor221 hey it's just 8 here 01:45:32 paul Patlabor221: you're in NZ too? 01:49:21 Patlabor221 nope 01:49:39 Patlabor221 widget is in the future from me 01:49:46 Patlabor221 Widget: how is tomrow? 01:50:14 Widget Patlabor221: Ask paul. 01:50:45 paul Widget: how come i dont get a reply from you if i ctcp time you? 01:51:01 Widget Um.. I don't know. I'm not running this on my own computer. 01:51:08 Widget I guess my friend did something. 01:51:13 Patlabor221 widget are you tellneting again? 01:52:02 Widget Patlabor221: I have to.. IRC is blocked here. :( 01:52:27 Patlabor221 who blocks it? 01:52:39 Patlabor221 and where are you? 01:53:14 Widget Home.... my dad thinks IRC is a security risk. 01:53:27 Patlabor221 so proxy it 01:53:33 Widget How do you do that? 01:53:51 Patlabor221 find a public proxy 01:53:58 Patlabor221 and tell the IRC app to use it 01:54:08 Patlabor221 is port 1080 open for you? 01:54:11 Widget What does that do? 01:54:26 Patlabor221 it routs the request through another machine 01:54:30 paul Patlabor221: if you find a public proxy let me know.. 01:54:43 Patlabor221 ohh just do a search on google there are lists 01:54:49 Patlabor221 use them all the time at work 01:54:56 paul they're evil.. 01:55:04 Patlabor221 ? 01:55:11 paul spammers best friend 01:55:25 Patlabor221 most of them won't do mail ports 01:55:30 Patlabor221 just web and higher 01:55:35 paul k 01:55:39 paul not too bad so. 01:56:22 Patlabor221 uslay they are limited to web, FTP, IRC, and NNTP ports 01:56:44 Patlabor221 but that's the only way I can get on IM at work 01:56:56 paul ow 01:57:01 Patlabor221 yeah 01:57:09 Patlabor221 we are quite locked down 01:57:40 paul then again.. so is my work. 01:57:46 paul just i dont notice. 01:57:58 Patlabor221 well but is your IS departement not full of idiots 01:58:01 Patlabor221 mine is 01:58:10 Patlabor221 thy break the fire box weekly 01:58:16 paul well, i am the IS dept. :) 01:58:29 Patlabor221 and don't understand the term misson critical 01:58:34 paul network that the admins sit on gets full outward NAT. 01:58:44 paul rest of the company doesnt :) 01:58:57 Patlabor221 they tried to do that at our place 01:59:00 Patlabor221 but the messed it up 01:59:58 paul thing is, from a security perspective it has to be that way. 02:00:09 paul unfortunate, but that's how it is. 02:00:12 Patlabor221 yeah 02:00:45 Patlabor221 I have no problem with our policys, I have problems with the implementation 02:01:01 paul on the flip side, if you work here, the IS dept. is staunchly against content monitoring/blocking of email/web usage. 02:01:02 paul :) 02:01:06 Patlabor221 when out entire connection goes down for 12 hours 02:01:13 paul ah ow. 02:01:28 Patlabor221 and they know about it right when it started 02:01:28 paul how did they manage that? 02:01:41 Patlabor221 and don't try to fix it till the next morning 02:01:44 Patlabor221 firebox locked 02:01:49 Patlabor221 blew out everything 02:02:03 paul lovely. 02:02:05 Patlabor221 funny thing its they allway seem to lose the rules for it 02:02:20 Patlabor221 so it's random what we can and can't do 02:02:25 paul urg 02:02:31 Patlabor221 as of this week seems I can play BZ again from there :) 02:02:42 paul "firewall rules de jour" type of thing. 02:02:58 Patlabor221 yeah 02:03:16 Patlabor221 when the decree came down from managemnt that there would be no more IM 02:03:19 Patlabor221 we all were bummed 02:03:21 paul well, if you worked here, and there was something you wanted to access but couldnt because of firewalling, i'd install an app specific proxy if one existed. 02:03:34 paul eg bzfs for bzflag. 02:03:44 Patlabor221 then we realised that we are all programers and shouild be able to around that shit 02:03:46 Patlabor221 and we did 02:03:53 paul he 02:04:01 Patlabor221 yeah they wouln't proxy anything for us 02:04:15 Patlabor221 good thing I got the keys to the server room and all :) 02:04:18 paul oh yes - the network our developers sits on gets full outward NAT too. 02:04:22 Patlabor221 being bakup server admin 02:04:25 paul aha. 02:04:44 Patlabor221 and the only one who will go in at off hours and fix stuff 02:04:50 paul he 02:04:59 Patlabor221 but that's mostly cus I can see my work from my front portch :) 02:05:16 Patlabor221 yeah they cut off everyone in the company 02:05:26 Patlabor221 cus some people in support were screwing off too much 02:05:32 paul i can and often do get calls about network problems and fix them from home. 02:05:43 paul beauty of using unix :) 02:05:57 Patlabor221 our people arn't smart enought to set that up 02:06:22 Patlabor221 hell I had to show them how to set up samba 02:06:33 paul Patlabor221: i dont give a fig about people using too much of the internet, but from the security POV, it has to be locked down. 02:06:52 Patlabor221 ohh I know I would not like all ports opend 02:06:54 Patlabor221 that's not good 02:07:11 Patlabor221 but I just want it to work 02:07:14 Patlabor221 consistently 02:07:21 paul no port open is not good. 02:07:37 paul if someone gets in - i dont want them to have a direct route out. 02:07:45 Patlabor221 yeah 02:07:54 Patlabor221 we are all behind a nat anyway 02:08:36 Patlabor221 actualy I'm behind a nat everywhere I get on the net, both ofices and at home 02:08:39 paul if someone wants to get data in/out then it must go through a proxy. 02:09:08 Patlabor221 we used to have a web proxy 02:09:12 Patlabor221 but they broke it 02:09:23 paul i actually have 2 little blocks of public address space reserved for the developers and admin networks here :) 02:09:39 paul how does one break a web proxy? 02:09:39 Patlabor221 that's nice 02:09:46 Patlabor221 move it to a new machine 02:09:50 Patlabor221 and then when it don't work 02:09:59 Patlabor221 get pissed and say "screw it" 02:10:01 paul right.. 02:10:22 paul you ever consider hiring people who actually know what a clue is? :) 02:10:42 Patlabor221 I sugested that to them 02:10:52 Patlabor221 hell the 2 guys don't even show up on time 02:10:57 paul there's tonnes of techies looking for jobs at the moment... i'll bet a few clueful ones amongst them. 02:10:59 Patlabor221 like an hour and a half late 02:11:14 paul has done much worse than that :) 02:11:20 Patlabor221 every day 02:11:23 Patlabor221 ? 02:11:27 paul has done much worse than that :) 02:11:50 Patlabor221 well it sounds like your net don't take a crap on a daily basis tho 02:12:25 paul in my defence i tend to be available 24x7 if needs really be, and i do work on systems from home, and i'll do work out of hours no probs (eg such as now) 02:12:31 paul no our net works. 02:12:41 Patlabor221 our guys don't give a shit 02:12:47 paul find more. 02:12:49 paul anyway... 02:12:52 paul have to do work. 02:12:57 Patlabor221 have fun 02:12:59 paul find others even. 02:13:02 paul oh will do. 02:13:11 Patlabor221 I wish it was up to me 02:13:14 paul i'll stay logged on - but i'm away. 02:13:16 paul :) 02:14:09 Patlabor221 must find a copy of quake 2 02:14:12 captain_proton returns 02:14:18 Patlabor221 husssah 02:15:28 doughecka heya paul 02:15:33 doughecka er 02:15:37 doughecka heya Patlabor221 02:16:21 doughecka is away: busy 02:16:47 Patlabor221 he says hi, then leaves 02:16:53 doughecka is back 02:16:57 doughecka ha 02:17:24 doughecka hmm, seems to me that my laptops screen got broke during shipping 02:17:56 paul heya doug, hows things? (btw: i'm not here right now :) ) 02:18:03 doughecka but it has no insurence on it 02:18:06 doughecka paul: haha 02:23:29 Patlabor221 amazing the happycaster works on the leenox 02:23:35 Patlabor221 just not very fast 02:38:13 doughecka is away: bed 02:38:32 captain_proton doobeedoo 02:39:03 jzaun hey 02:39:05 jzaun captain_proton: 02:39:10 jzaun hows things? 02:40:00 captain_proton going, going 02:40:09 jzaun fun fun 02:40:16 jzaun hows BZEE coming? 02:41:30 captain_proton excellento 02:42:24 jzaun Got it all working yet :-P 02:42:43 captain_proton got the layout stuff working 02:42:49 jzaun Cool 02:42:49 captain_proton hacking at the tree stuff now 02:44:45 jzaun How do you hold the map information internally? 02:45:56 Patlabor221 hmmm wxWindows has a GL componenet 02:46:30 Patlabor221 well it used to be a list, but I think he's making it a map now to support groups 02:47:43 jzaun It'll be nice when its done. Make development much easier 02:48:51 Patlabor221 hey scanline 03:52:44 captain_proton yay for having my music directory absolutely organized now 05:14:08 CLQ Anyone know of a free java IRC client I can have on my site? 05:42:09 Widget Yay, election time! 05:42:12 Chestal was last seen on #bzflag 11 hours, 21 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: bzdoug: "Unbreakbale" was boring, too :-) [Sat Sep 21 19:20:31 2002] 05:42:12 Widget ibot: seen Chestal 05:55:56 benz007 hi! 05:56:01 Widget ni hao. 05:56:21 Widget ni hui jiang zhongwen ma? 05:56:33 benz007 yes 05:56:43 benz007 when are you come from 05:56:57 Widget xin xi lan 05:57:00 benz007 where are you come from? 05:57:18 benz007 ??? 05:57:20 Widget wode pinyin bu hao. :( 05:57:23 Widget New Zealand. 05:59:13 captain_proton How does Dr. Science know the secrets of the universe? He has a Masters Degree ... in Science! 05:59:25 Widget Is this from his webpage? 05:59:48 captain_proton yes 06:01:39 captain_proton Dr. Science is my hero 06:02:17 Widget Not Bill Nye the Science Guy? 06:03:50 captain_proton no 06:03:52 captain_proton Dr. Science 06:04:17 captain_proton Q: Has a groundhog ever been struck by lightning? 06:04:24 captain_proton A: No and it never will, either! Groundhogs are almost entirely made of neutrinos, small sub-atomic particles that repel lightning and, coincidentally, chiggers. In fact, a groundhog's idea of a good time is to go golfing during an electrical storm, standing in the tall grass of the rough and waving a nine iron in the air. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time envying groundhogs for their immunity. They have a brain the size of 06:04:24 captain_proton ist on a diet of worms, roots and dirt. Walk a mile in a groundhog's shoes and then see if you can let this groundhog envy thing go. And let me know how you're doing. Dr. Science cares. 06:04:50 Widget Hahahaha. 06:06:32 captain_proton Q: What is a "burst-pipeline cache"? Should I put a pan under my computer to catch the run-off? 06:06:37 captain_proton A: I'd just run a hose to the outside. Some of the solvents used in chip manufacture can be toxic and it would be wise to get them as far away as possible. I once had a 386 leak devitalized RAM fluid all over my desk, and that stuff ate through the vinyl simulated oak veneer right down to the particle board. Nowadays, the burst pipelines are usually virtual, so the defective RAM is reabsorbed by the operating system and taken to 06:06:38 captain_proton eeded. My sound card just went from mono to stereo thanks to RAM runoff reassignment. 06:11:19 scanline is back (gone 06:19:17) 06:15:04 scanline wonders what kind of drug captain_proton is on today... 06:15:59 captain_proton scanline: ask Dr. Science, he knows more than you do! 06:16:38 Terminator hi all 06:17:36 CLQ hi 06:22:43 Terminator whats the afk for? 06:22:50 scanline captain_proton: is that like Mr. Wizard? 06:23:19 scanline captain_proton: http://picogui.org/download/all_your_base.jpeg 06:27:15 captain_proton scanline: nothing like Mr. Wizard 06:27:25 captain_proton i just posted a Dr. Science question on my door 06:27:39 scanline goes to look 06:29:59 captain_proton see? Dr. Science knows more than you 06:30:03 scanline indeed 06:30:09 captain_proton because he has a masters degree in science 06:30:12 scanline wonders why Kevin is being such a goofball today.. 06:30:22 scanline oh well. my Textbox Widget of Doom will protect me! 06:30:35 scanline blasts really loud music after quiet hours 06:30:42 scanline hear it at your end yet? 06:30:50 captain_proton trots out into the hall to check 06:31:04 captain_proton a tiny little bit 06:31:06 captain_proton turn up the bass 06:31:30 scanline I only have half my speakers connected... lemme reconnect the back pair from the dreamcast to yoshi 06:31:49 captain_proton we've got 7 speakers here if necessary ;) 06:32:50 scanline bah, of all people my roommate complained first... 06:32:55 scanline ass 06:34:32 scanline switches to headphones... 06:35:06 scanline is in a bad mood for no particular reason.. maybe because he was spending too much time with people 06:35:35 Widget captain_proton: Where can you get a list of previous Dr. Science questions? 06:35:53 captain_proton you can't get a list 06:36:02 captain_proton you have to search through the vault of knowledge 06:36:14 Widget How did you find the one about the burst-pipeline cache, etc, then? 06:36:28 captain_proton searching for random terms 06:36:40 Widget Pfft. I get no results. 06:36:56 captain_proton try including the answer in the search as well as the question 06:39:59 Widget Q. You know those little birds filled with red stuff that bob up and down drinking from a glass of water? I can't make mine stop, even when I take away his water. He won't stop. Please help! A. Those little birds are actually perpetual motion machines. Once you get them started, they'll never stop -- ever -- not until the sun winds down and our galaxy goes nova. Even then, somewhere in the imploded black holes that was once our solar system, lit 06:39:59 Widget tle birds will be bob-bob-bobbing -- even in the noiseless vacuum of space. The "red stuff" inside these birds is actually a neutrino solution kept in place by a mysterious new force in the universe called hypercharge, which is a cross between a nuclear bond and superglue. Fortunately, most of these birds are what science calls "broken" and will not bob at all. This is true, at least for most of us, who bought these little birds at airport gift 06:40:00 Widget shops and we can only thank the powers-that-be. Otherwise, they'd just give us the creeps. Bobbing, bobbing, bobbing through eternity, through entropy, bobbing, bobbing, bobbing, bobbing... 06:44:09 captain_proton wonders if he can vmware on scanline's box 06:44:25 scanline yeah, but only as me... 06:44:31 scanline the license file is in my home directory 06:44:36 scanline you can have a copy if you wanty 06:44:39 scanline err, if you want 06:44:52 scanline then you can run it on your own box 06:45:01 captain_proton that would require me setting up windows and all 06:45:19 scanline I have a copy of windows installed in vmware but it doesn't boot... 06:45:26 captain_proton heh 06:45:31 scanline some driver I installed screwed it up and I haven't bothered to fix it yet 06:45:55 captain_proton digs around for his me disk 06:46:28 Widget Q. If raccoons are so smart, how come they have to eat my garbage? A. As anyone who's familiar with the furry masked bandits may know, raccoons are the stock brokers of the animal kingdom. So instead of rifling your garbage can for food, they're actually looking for a current issue of the Wall Street Journal or one of those start-up magazines. Raccoons would much rather eat in restaurants than devour your garbage, and they know as well as anyone 06:46:29 Widget that money makes the world go round. Science once thought raccoons washed their food before they ate it, but now we know their vigorous hand rubbing in water is a desperate attempt to remove their fingerprints. A lone raccoon, by the way, can easily open a backpack at a campground, while a gang of raccoons - one steering and two working the pedals - can steal a car. So if all those raccoons are doing is stealing your garbage and old Fortune Mag 06:46:31 Widget azines, consider yourself lucky. 06:46:40 scanline captain_proton: eww.. windows ME? 06:46:45 captain_proton thats right 06:46:48 scanline captain_proton: at least use win2k if you have to use windows 06:46:49 captain_proton Millenium Edition 06:46:57 scanline ME is just an uglified version of 95 06:47:03 captain_proton the raccoons here don't eat garbage 06:47:10 captain_proton they go around in packs grazing 06:47:24 Widget They eat cables. 06:47:28 Widget Thus explaining your lag. 06:48:24 Widget The raccoons have taken over lurgyman's computer. 06:48:24 lurgyman so i was walking along, going to practiced that most dignified instrument 06:48:30 lurgyman when suddenly... 06:48:50 lurgyman MOO!!! A giant herd of raccoons grazed at me like nothing you've ever seen! 06:49:00 lurgyman MOOOO!!! 06:49:07 scanline 06:49:08 scanline _ __ ___ ___ ___ 06:49:08 scanline | '_ ` _ \ / _ \ / _ \ 06:49:08 scanline | | | | | | (_) | (_) | 06:49:08 scanline |_| |_| |_|\___/ \___/ 06:49:08 scanline 06:49:14 lurgyman exactly 06:49:18 lurgyman that's what they said to me 06:49:25 captain_proton wonders if scanline has seen the herd grazing 06:49:27 lurgyman i tried to convince them otherwise but they wouldn't believe me 06:49:30 captain_proton farrand field 06:49:31 scanline captain_proton: yes 06:49:43 scanline captain_proton: I saw like 5 of them grazing in the quad between here and farrand 06:49:55 lurgyman tasty 06:49:55 a german gent that enjoys croissant with his pet duck, Tag 06:49:55 Widget ibot: Chestal? 06:50:04 Widget Tag rules the raccoons with an iron fist. 06:50:07 wish i knew, scanline 06:50:07 scanline ibot: tag? 06:50:15 lurgyman I have a pet duck, but his name is Herbert 06:50:18 OK, scanline. 06:50:18 scanline ibot: tag is a duck that controls all HTML on the planet 06:50:25 lurgyman i call him Billy 06:50:33 captain_proton you mean....nancy? 06:50:39 lurgyman who? 06:50:45 captain_proton audry farber? 06:50:47 lurgyman what? 06:51:01 captain_proton betty joe biolosky? 06:51:03 Widget lurgyman: I think during the daytime in America, Tag comes to Colorado and becomes Herbert. 06:51:09 lurgyman oh! you mean... NANCY! 06:51:14 scanline thinks he'll just DCC each file to captain_proton as he listens to it... 06:51:34 captain_proton listens to a santus 06:51:35 captain_proton err 06:51:37 captain_proton sanctus 06:51:41 lurgyman Widget: I think the same thing happens to George W. Bush 06:51:52 lurgyman in the daytime he is here as himself 06:52:01 lurgyman at night he goes to britain and becomes tony blair 06:52:49 lurgyman that way he can obsessively invade iraq from two different places 06:53:18 Widget How does he manage to switch between bad haircuts overnight? 06:53:30 captain_proton talent 06:53:35 lurgyman a giant cardboard mask 06:53:56 Widget Is this "Ari Fleischer" person German? 06:54:04 Widget ibot: x de en Fleischer. 06:54:05 Widget: Butcher. 06:54:06 Widget See? 06:54:25 lurgyman Widget: the duck wants to go out 06:54:33 Widget ibot: x de en Fleisch. 06:54:34 Widget: Meat. 06:55:27 lurgyman: i'm not following you... 06:55:27 lurgyman ibot: duck 06:55:35 captain_proton La pucelle de New Orleans, do you speak, 06:55:37 captain_proton La pucelle de New Orleans, do you speak, 06:55:38 lurgyman: sorry... 06:55:38 lurgyman ibot: that's because you're not a duck 06:55:45 captain_proton La pucelle de New Orleans, sat down in some pork and beans. 06:55:50 lurgyman: what? 06:55:50 lurgyman ibot: you should be 06:55:50 captain_proton Hinky dinky do you speak. 06:56:02 Widget ibot: x de en Schlechter Moerder. 06:56:11 Widget: Bad murderer. 06:56:17 lurgyman: sorry... 06:56:17 lurgyman ibot: hurty flurty schnip schnip 06:56:38 lurgyman ibot; sinky 06:56:50 ACTION shoots lurgyman. 06:56:50 Widget ibot: sorry? 06:57:07 lurgyman: i'm not following you... 06:57:07 lurgyman ibot: how impertinent 06:57:18 Widget Curiouser and curiouser. 06:57:29 lurgyman ibot; well, you just shot me, so it seems unlikely that you'd be following me 06:57:48 captain_proton ibot; sinky 06:58:00 captain_proton boggles 06:58:03 lurgyman apparently ibot doesn't like the work "sinky" 06:58:11 lurgyman but only when i say it 06:58:14 scanline heh.. matt thinks I'm drunk 06:58:23 scanline just because I could put my foot behind my head... 06:58:23 captain_proton haha 06:58:40 scanline I can get both feet behind my head, I just can't hold it 06:58:58 captain_proton puts on quality music - The Preachers of Crimetheus 06:58:58 lurgyman i could put my feet behind my head, it would simply involve detaching them from my knees 06:59:11 scanline I don't know why I'm so flexible... 06:59:26 Widget is away: Dinner. (gone at 22nd Sep, 08:06:29) 06:59:34 lurgyman scanlibe: maybe it's cuz you eat so much rubber 06:59:57 lurgyman is not away: here 07:01:01 lurgyman If God played an instrument, it would be trombone 07:01:11 lurgyman a really honking big trombone 07:01:23 captain_proton i disagree 07:01:26 lurgyman it would be very loud 07:01:29 captain_proton for shore a slide wistle 07:01:32 lurgyman and completely uncellolike 07:01:56 scanline no no, the perpetual rim shot 07:02:21 lurgyman or, on the outside, a tromboon 07:02:24 scanline so if God's the drummer, who's the comedian? 07:03:16 lurgyman george bush III 07:03:35 scanline al gore is only a comedian in retrospect 07:03:41 lurgyman the comedian's the musician that the drummer hangs out with 07:04:41 lurgyman or, rather, no... ronald raegan jr. 07:04:51 scanline ronald raygun? 07:04:51 lurgyman we're about due for one of those, aren't we? 07:04:58 lurgyman ronzo raygun 07:05:06 Terminator terminator is back 07:05:13 lurgyman it's a lie! 07:05:14 scanline ronzo gigantor raygunnish the fourteenth 07:05:23 Terminator huh? 07:05:31 lurgyman exactly 07:05:43 lurgyman doooeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ooeyyy 07:05:47 captain_proton plus tax 07:07:01 scanline 14.001589326th 07:07:01 lurgyman that was pdq bach, byt the way 07:07:01 scanline not much tax on yen 07:07:02 lurgyman are you kidding? everywhere's got higher taxes than the US 07:07:02 captain_proton and a splendid rendition if i say so myself 07:07:02 scanline oh, maybe they were yiddish bings 07:07:20 scanline as long as it's exchangeable for pork 07:07:23 Widget-away lurgyman: Only Europe, Australia, etc. 07:07:48 captain_proton and now to I-248, where we have militant hasedics diverting uncircumsized motorists onto the goyem cutoff 07:08:15 CLQ Does anyone know of a free java IRC client I can put on my site? 07:09:30 scanline throws a yamalca at captain_proton 07:09:33 scanline frisbee! 07:11:15 captain_proton whats this? 07:11:18 captain_proton scanline sent me an mp3? 07:11:26 Terminator lol 07:11:35 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 07:11:35 Terminator ibot ducati 07:11:36 bzbot Server is empty 07:12:10 Terminator hmm if i cant play in ducati then UT2003 instead 07:14:50 scanline captain_proton: this music is so.. calm! 07:14:57 captain_proton A new way of thinking about AI, giving very fast learning Neural Network demos, working bottom-up and cell-driven, programming low and say then: please baby, run, and she runs!! 07:18:13 captain_proton ooh dunage soundtrack 07:18:23 scanline that's not Dune the book or the movie 07:18:29 scanline it's a german techno band 07:18:44 captain_proton oh hum 07:19:44 lurgyman ho muh 07:19:47 lurgyman homer! 07:19:50 lurgyman yay! 07:21:45 scanline it's fun abusing captain_proton's auto-accept DCC 07:22:12 captain_proton the piece we're listening to right now is likely the only piece of music ever written based on the 'nanny nanny boo boo' theme 07:22:47 captain_proton tocatta et fuga obnoxia 07:23:04 captain_proton Widget-away: your firewall is interfering 07:23:06 scanline ooh.. you must listen to Duvet.. it's by Boa 07:23:09 Widget-away Pffft. 07:25:21 captain_proton and now for something, as they say, completely different 07:26:02 scanline wonders if his DCCs to captain_proton went to /dev/null ;P 07:26:11 captain_proton not yet 07:26:29 captain_proton scanline: like goat electronica? :) 07:26:40 scanline dunno 07:26:41 scanline what is it? 07:26:45 captain_proton listen to sanq 07:26:49 scanline k 07:27:03 scanline oh no 07:27:12 scanline if you like this, I have a song you'd like... 07:27:22 captain_proton ? 07:27:58 scanline listen to this, mr_shead.mod.. it's "Shot in the Head" by Mick Rippon 07:28:19 captain_proton hmm, what plays mods... 07:28:26 scanline xmms, modplug, mikmod... 07:28:48 captain_proton that'd be a no on the 3 07:28:53 scanline grr... 07:28:59 scanline I suppose I could convert it to a mp3 for you 07:29:02 scanline but that would suck 07:29:11 scanline you need a mod player, I have some kick-ass MOD music 07:29:41 captain_proton should send scanline some moondog 07:30:20 scanline doesn't bother compressing it, and just sends captain_proton the wav file 07:30:57 Widget-away How do you allow root to run X programs from a terminal emulator? 07:31:09 scanline xhost +localhost 07:31:13 scanline I think 07:31:31 captain_proton or just sudo it 07:31:53 Widget-away When I do xhost +localhost as root, it says Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server. 07:32:03 Widget-away So I did it as a normal user, and it says localhost being added to access control list 07:32:09 captain_proton do xhost +localhost as the user that is running x 07:32:23 Widget-away Hm.. who is running X I wonder? 07:34:04 Widget-away root 28524 196 1 Aug24 ? 07:45:52 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolis 07:34:11 Widget-away So I suppose it's root. 07:34:27 Widget-away But it won't let root do xhost +localhost from a terminal emulator. 07:37:48 captain_proton ribbit 07:38:18 scanline yarp 07:38:47 captain_proton scanline: listen to 'frog bog' and 'stamping ground' - they'll change your life 07:39:12 captain_proton trots off to go stand under some water 07:53:08 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 07:53:08 Terminator ibot ducati 07:53:08 bzbot Server is empty 07:53:09 Widget ... 07:53:22 scanline ooh.. my headphones sound a lot better with a little bit of treble boost 07:53:32 Terminator k 07:59:54 captain_proton doobeedoo 08:17:21 Terminator dumdumdumdumdum 08:17:26 Terminator dododododo 08:17:29 ACTION farts. 08:17:29 CLQ ibot fart 08:17:32 Terminator lalalaalal 08:17:36 ACTION burps softly 08:17:36 CLQ ibot burp 08:17:48 CLQ: sorry... 08:17:48 CLQ ibot burp loud 08:17:52 Terminator ibot isult Everyone except Terminator 08:18:24 Terminator is nothing but an elf-skinned assload of inept chicken piss. 08:18:24 CLQ ibot insult Terminator 08:18:34 CLQ lol 08:19:14 Everyone except Terminator is nothing but a lewd-minded bucket of warped dog vomit. 08:19:14 Terminator ibot insult Everyone except Terminator 08:19:48 Terminator hehe 08:20:30 Everyone except CLQ is nothing but a fobbing petrification of clouted pods. 08:20:30 CLQ ibot insult Everyone except CLQ 08:21:21 CLQ is especailly is nothing but a rank puddle of pignutted snake bait. 08:21:21 Terminator ibot insult CLQ is especailly 08:21:29 Terminator haha 08:23:29 CLQ: huh? 08:23:29 CLQ ibot badly insult Terminator 08:23:39 Terminator is nothing but a crook-pated plate of salty armadillo snouts. 08:23:39 CLQ ibot insult Terminator 08:26:58 very very sexyyy 08:26:58 CLQ ibot strayer 08:27:17 very very sexyyy 08:27:17 CLQ ibot where is strayer 08:27:36 CLQ: huh? 08:27:36 CLQ ibot CLQ 08:29:22 ...but y is 2... 08:29:22 Terminator ibot y is strayer sexy 08:29:33 Terminator ibot why is strayer sexy 08:30:29 scanline is away: sleep or something... 08:31:11 Terminator CLQ r u the one that said strayer is sexy 08:31:19 CLQ it was ibot 08:31:29 CLQ he had it programmed 08:31:36 very very sexyyy 08:31:36 CLQ ibot strayer 08:31:38 Terminator sumone must have set it though 08:31:43 CLQ not me 08:31:49 CLQ him maybe 08:32:07 Terminator hmm is that u fancie stayer 08:32:09 Terminator lol 08:32:10 Terminator jk 08:33:03 CLQ ? 08:33:16 Terminator just kidding 08:33:32 CLQ How do we reset it? 08:33:37 Terminator dunno 08:33:51 CLQ We tell him to forget strayer 08:33:58 Terminator ok 08:34:04 Terminator: I forgot strayer 08:34:04 Terminator ibot forget strayer 08:34:07 CLQ but how do we put on something else 08:34:14 CLQ: huh? 08:34:14 CLQ ibot strayer 08:34:25 Terminator: sorry... 08:34:25 Terminator ibot strayer is, i dont knoow what! 08:34:40 OK, Terminator. 08:34:40 Terminator ibot strayer is also a user of mirc 08:34:46 rumour has it strayer is a user of mirc 08:34:46 Terminator ibot strayer 08:34:55 Terminator there ya go 08:35:09 Terminator: I forgot terminator 08:35:09 Terminator ibot forget terminator 08:35:39 OK, Terminator. 08:35:39 Terminator ibot Terminator is also the greatest BZFlag player EVER! 08:36:40 OK, CLQ. 08:36:40 CLQ ibot CLQ is the most promising player ever 08:36:45 you are the most promising player ever 08:36:45 CLQ ibot CLQ 08:36:52 CLQ i know 08:37:44 somebody said terminator was the greatest BZFlag player EVER! 08:37:44 CLQ ibot terminator 08:38:11 CLQ nonsense 08:38:18 CLQ: what? 08:38:18 CLQ ibot nonsense 08:40:27 Terminator lol 08:40:45 Terminator: I forgot prodan 08:40:45 Terminator ibot forget prodan 08:41:04 OK, Terminator. 08:41:04 Terminator ibot prodan is also inferior to Terminator 08:41:07 Terminator hehe 08:41:17 Terminator i am just paying him back 08:41:25 Terminator for what he called me 08:42:44 CLQ what? 08:42:52 rumour has it CLQ is the most promising player ever 08:42:52 CLQ ibot CLQ 08:43:13 CLQ Does it spell promesing? 08:43:14 Terminator lol 08:43:22 it has been said that prodan is inferior to Terminator 08:43:22 Terminator ibot prodan 08:43:26 Terminator hehe 08:44:43 ...but clq is the most promising player ever... 08:44:43 CLQ ibot CLQ is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face 08:44:57 CLQ: I forgot clq 08:44:57 CLQ ibot forget clq 08:45:01 OK, CLQ. 08:45:01 CLQ ibot CLQ is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face 08:45:06 rumour has it clq is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face 08:45:06 CLQ ibot clq 08:45:10 okay, Terminator. 08:45:10 Terminator ibot CLQ is also an idiot 08:45:18 CLQ :-( 08:45:21 Terminator lol 08:45:22 you are the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or an idiot 08:45:22 CLQ ibot clq 08:45:26 Terminator ok i'll remove it 08:45:33 CLQ thanks 08:45:37 Terminator: I forgot clq 08:45:37 Terminator ibot forget clq 08:45:43 OK, CLQ. 08:45:43 CLQ ibot CLQ is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face 08:45:55 clq is probably the most promising player ever and he has a nice face 08:45:55 Terminator ibot clq 08:45:59 Terminator k 08:46:05 CLQ Terminator is also very nice 08:46:12 Terminator thanx 08:46:13 okay, CLQ. 08:46:13 CLQ ibot Terminator is also very nice 08:46:18 it has been said that Terminator is the greatest BZFlag player EVER! or very nice 08:46:18 CLQ ibot Terminator 08:46:33 okay, Terminator. 08:46:33 Terminator ibot clq is also a kind person 08:46:38 i guess clq is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 08:46:38 Terminator ibot clq 08:46:55 CLQ thanks 08:47:04 CLQ ok that is eghnogh 08:47:19 Terminator i agree 08:50:42 Terminator thanx 08:50:48 Terminator thanx 08:50:52 CLQ you to 08:50:57 CLQ you too 08:51:23 OK, CLQ. 08:51:23 CLQ ibot CLQ an terminator are friends 08:51:23 Terminator sry bout double post 08:51:30 you are the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 08:51:30 CLQ ibot clq 08:51:50 CLQ: excuse me? 08:51:50 CLQ ibot friends 08:51:56 Terminator is, like, the greatest BZFlag player EVER! or very nice 08:51:56 CLQ ibot Terminator 08:52:01 clq an terminator are friends 08:52:01 Terminator ibot clq an terminator 08:52:09 Terminator there ya go 08:52:11 CLQ o yeah 08:52:48 Terminator brb 08:53:11 Terminator back 08:53:20 CLQ fast 08:53:24 Terminator yup 08:53:53 Terminator clq r u an adult? 08:53:56 CLQ where is a online IRC client? 08:54:00 CLQ half 08:54:07 CLQ you 08:54:13 Terminator what do ya mean half 08:54:21 CLQ 17 08:54:27 Terminator cool 08:54:54 Terminator what does clq stand for? 08:55:01 CLQ my name 08:55:18 Terminator cool 08:55:44 Terminator hmm let me try and guess ur name 08:56:03 CLQ ok 08:56:06 Terminator charles laurence quentin 08:56:35 Terminator was i newhere near 08:56:42 Terminator guess not 08:56:45 CLQ nope 08:57:01 Terminator can i have a clue 08:57:28 Terminator ah nm 08:57:44 CLQ first is Christian 08:57:44 Terminator i have four names 08:57:48 Terminator ok 08:58:02 Terminator hmm and is it a boys name 08:58:13 Terminator or girls 08:58:15 CLQ yes 08:58:18 CLQ boys 08:58:22 Terminator ok 08:58:44 Terminator chorinthian? 08:58:47 Terminator lol 08:59:31 Terminator ok i aint got ne idea 08:59:35 Terminator i give up 08:59:35 CLQ my first name is Christian 09:00:04 Terminator i cant think of any christian boys names beginning with c 09:00:27 CLQ No my name Is Christian 09:00:35 Terminator oh 09:00:37 Terminator whoops 09:00:40 CLQ lol 09:00:45 Terminator lol 09:01:03 Terminator is ur second name luke 09:01:07 CLQ no 09:01:17 Terminator lennie? 09:01:39 Terminator larunce? 09:01:42 Terminator lucas? 09:01:50 Terminator lazuras? 09:01:52 Terminator lol 09:02:12 CLQ a english name 09:02:23 Terminator hmm i am english 09:02:32 Terminator larunce? 09:02:41 CLQ quite unusual 09:02:57 Terminator i have no idea 09:04:23 Terminator: sorry... 09:04:23 Terminator ibot jp_zZzZ 09:04:23 CLQ leonard 09:04:29 Terminator cool 09:05:03 Terminator i aint even gonna try to guess ya surname cuz there r so many surnames 09:05:10 CLQ lol 09:05:17 CLQ its norwegian 09:05:28 CLQ not many on q 09:05:31 Terminator cool 09:06:11 Terminator the only name i know beginning with q is quentin 09:06:22 CLQ nope 09:06:27 CLQ not right 09:06:50 Terminator didnt think dat as norwegian 09:07:10 Terminator was* 09:07:16 CLQ well it dosent sound norwegian 09:07:30 Terminator hmm do u live in norway 09:07:34 CLQ yes 09:07:39 Terminator cool 09:07:47 CLQ a very unusal surname 09:08:07 Terminator well i havent got a clue 09:08:57 CLQ well 09:09:02 CLQ that was it 09:09:07 Terminator k 09:09:24 CLQ Is terminator your name? 09:09:34 Terminator lmao 09:09:48 Terminator i wish it was sumtimes 09:09:56 CLQ lol 09:13:26 ...but terminator is the greatest BZFlag player EVER! or very nice... 09:13:26 Terminator ibot i am bored 09:13:41 CLQ lol 09:13:46 Terminator lol 09:13:51 ACTION sings loudly 09:13:51 CLQ ibot sing 09:14:05 Terminator: huh? 09:14:05 Terminator ibot puke over clq 09:14:10 ACTION pukes over Terminator 09:14:10 Terminator ibot puke 09:14:14 CLQ: huh? 09:14:14 CLQ ibot burp loudly 09:14:15 Terminator yuk 09:14:18 CLQ lol 09:14:21 ACTION burps softly 09:14:21 Terminator ibot burp 09:14:33 Terminator: I forgot burp 09:14:33 Terminator ibot forget burp 09:14:51 OK, Terminator. 09:14:51 Terminator ibot burp is also /me burp loudly 09:14:56 well, burp is /me burp loudly 09:14:56 Terminator ibot burp 09:15:05 Terminator whoops 09:15:16 Terminator: I forgot burp 09:15:16 Terminator ibot forget burp 09:15:25 Terminator: i'm not following you... 09:15:25 Terminator ibot burp 09:15:30 Terminator whoops 09:15:39 Terminator now he cant burp at all 09:15:44 OK, CLQ. 09:15:44 CLQ ibot burp is * ibot burps loudly 09:15:45 ACTION farts. 09:15:45 Terminator ibot fart 09:15:52 i guess burp is * ibot burps loudly 09:15:52 CLQ ibot burp 09:15:58 CLQ darn 09:16:07 Terminator sry it was my fault 09:16:26 CLQ im sure somone will fix it 09:16:31 Terminator k 09:16:41 ACTION does an 80's style breakdance 09:16:41 Terminator ibot dance 09:16:51 Terminator: i'm not following you... 09:16:51 Terminator ibot run 09:16:53 CLQ: huh? 09:16:53 CLQ ibot cool 09:16:59 i am an ibot. 09:16:59 CLQ ibot ibot 09:17:06 Terminator: excuse me? 09:17:06 Terminator ibot learn 09:17:16 i think ibot i am bad 09:17:16 Terminator ibot ibot ibot 09:17:30 Terminator lol 09:17:31 Terminator weird 09:17:36 CLQ: excuse me? 09:17:36 CLQ ibot lick 09:17:43 removes the first X lines from stdin. URL: http://www.enol.com/~markw/src/eat.html 09:17:43 CLQ ibot eat 09:18:00 ACTION drinks a beer. 09:18:00 CLQ ibot drink 09:18:03 ACTION passes out drunk. 09:18:03 CLQ ibot drink 09:18:05 ACTION staggers around drunk and then pukes all over CLQ. 09:18:05 CLQ ibot drink 09:18:09 ACTION passes out drunk. 09:18:09 CLQ ibot drink 09:18:10 ACTION passes out drunk. 09:18:10 CLQ ibot drink 09:18:12 ACTION passes out drunk. 09:18:12 CLQ ibot drink 09:18:13 ACTION chugs down a 40 09:18:13 CLQ ibot drink 09:18:15 ACTION staggers around drunk and then pukes all over CLQ. 09:18:15 CLQ ibot drink 09:18:19 Terminator lol 09:18:25 ACTION passes out drunk. 09:18:25 Terminator ibot drink 09:18:31 ACTION drinks a foamy guinness draught 09:18:31 Terminator ibot drink 09:19:04 CLQ: i'm not following you... 09:19:04 CLQ ibot pee 09:19:21 Terminator: huh? 09:19:21 Terminator ibot piss 09:19:33 Terminator: excuse me? 09:19:33 Terminator ibot use da toilet 09:19:33 shit is like when s**t hits the fan 09:19:33 CLQ ibot shit 09:19:41 Terminator lol 09:19:49 Terminator: sorry... 09:19:49 Terminator ibot poo 09:19:55 ACTION does a dicso dance. 09:19:55 Terminator ibot dance 09:20:00 ACTION shakes its groove thang! 09:20:00 Terminator ibot dance 09:20:18 Terminator lol 09:20:26 Terminator ibot is great 09:20:30 Secure password and account manager for Palm Pilots.. URL: http://www.zetetic.net/products.html#strip 09:20:30 CLQ ibot strip 09:20:57 Terminator lol i went to dat link 09:21:10 Terminator coulndnt be bthered to read it though 09:21:31 Terminator its about sum program 09:21:36 Terminator: excuse me? 09:21:36 Terminator ibot michael 09:21:39 CLQ: what? 09:21:39 CLQ ibot run 09:21:45 CLQ: what? 09:21:45 CLQ ibot walk 09:21:47 bzflag is TimRiker, CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) and the maintainer of the 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming interruptions. 09:21:47 Terminator ibot bzflag 09:22:00 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 09:22:00 CLQ ibot ducati 09:22:01 bzbot Server is empty 09:22:14 bzbot is http://heckamangroup.com/old/files/ 09:22:14 CLQ ibot bzbot 09:22:16 Terminator clq do ya want a one on one in ducati 09:22:31 Terminator well 09:22:47 Terminator come on unless u r chicken 09:22:52 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 09:22:52 Terminator ibot ducati 09:22:53 bzbot Server is empty 09:23:01 Terminator still empty 09:23:12 Terminator well 09:26:46 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 09:26:46 Terminator ibot ducati 09:26:47 bzbot Terminator (R): 0 (0-0). 09:26:52 Terminator hehe 09:34:28 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 09:34:28 Terminator ibot ducati 09:34:29 bzbot Server is empty 10:20:55 MrSLYFox hey folks 10:20:59 Terminator hi 10:21:14 clq was last seen on #bzflag 59 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: ibot bzbot [Sun Sep 22 10:22:14 2002] 10:21:14 Terminator ibot seen clq 10:21:35 doughecka was last seen on #bzflag 7 hours, 43 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: is away: bed [Sun Sep 22 03:38:13 2002] 10:21:35 Terminator ibot seen doughecka 10:21:54 I haven't seen 'cheastal', Terminator 10:21:54 Terminator ibot seen cheastal 10:21:59 Terminator whhops 10:22:06 chestal was last seen on #bzflag 16 hours, 1 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying: bzdoug: "Unbreakbale" was boring, too :-) [Sat Sep 21 19:20:31 2002] 10:22:06 Terminator ibot seen chestal 10:36:49 CLQ1 How do I kick a nicname when I have registered it? 10:38:05 burp is probably * ibot burps loudly 10:38:05 CLQ1 ibot burp 10:38:27 CLQ is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 10:38:27 CLQ1 ibot CLQ 10:52:43 bzgirl hello 11:00:49 Terminator hi 11:01:14 Terminator 7hours till vbz vs The elite 11:01:51 Terminator g2g bye 11:26:25 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 11:26:25 Terminator ibot ducati 11:26:26 bzbot Server is empty 11:30:26 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 11:30:26 Terminator ibot ducati 11:30:27 bzbot Sabrina (G): 0 (0-0). 11:58:31 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 11:58:31 Terminator ibot ducati 11:58:31 bzbot Sabrina (G): 27 (70-43). [dmp] (R): -8 (22-30). Quol (G): 9 (46-37). Chestal (G): 2 (12-10). tankmann (R): -3 (34-37). 12:00:16 sussudio :-P 12:04:07 doughecka is away: BUSY! BUSY! SHOCKINGLY BUSY! MUCH MUCH TOO BUSY FOR YOU!!! 12:05:18 Terminator g2g 12:05:20 Terminator bye 12:21:18 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 12:21:18 [TeA] ibot, ducati 12:21:18 bzbot tankmann (R): 1 (3-2). [dmp] (R): -25 (66-91). dis s gay (G): 1 (8-7). Quol (G): 15 (93-78). NICK (R): -11 (2-13). 12:23:09 bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 12:23:09 sussudio ibot jzaun 12:23:10 bzbot Server is empty 12:41:22 sussudio jzaun: can you restart the map (ID 29 i think) that's on now..... it wasnt supposed to be 1-shot 12:41:56 CLQ Where can I find a free IRC client that can connect to any server to put on my website? 12:42:28 sussudio link to mirc.com? 12:42:43 jzaun sussudio: restarted, did you update the settings on stats.bzflag.org 12:42:49 sussudio yeah 12:42:53 jzaun sussudio: ok 12:42:56 sussudio tnx 12:43:02 CLQ no, it mut be java 12:44:00 jzaun CLQ: java or cgi? checkout stats.bzflag.org 12:44:13 CLQ java 12:46:27 CLQ Can it be configured to join any server an channel? 12:47:01 jzaun CLQ: yes 12:47:23 CLQ Is it free for download? 12:47:53 jzaun yes 12:48:02 CLQ where? 12:48:48 jzaun um... let me look in a min... 12:49:15 CLQ waves to terminator 12:49:22 Terminator hi 12:49:29 Terminator waves back 12:51:42 Chestal oh, Valoche is working on the league site 12:51:48 jzaun CLQ, little slow right now, I'm downloading an app 12:51:52 Chestal usign icons now instead of colours for team rating 12:52:22 CLQ jazun: what site can I download it from? 12:53:01 jzaun http://www.cgiirc.visionhost.net/ 12:53:11 CLQ thanks 12:53:17 jzaun np 12:54:30 [BZ]Ruudi tulge tulistama! 12:54:32 [BZ]Ruudi ducati 12:54:36 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 12:54:36 [BZ]Ruudi ibot ducati 12:54:36 bzbot Ruudi [BZ] (R): 0 (0-0). 12:54:57 Terminator ok 12:59:34 CLQ jzaun: Have you got an other one in case my friends server is not unix-based? 13:00:07 jzaun http://eirc.sourceforge.net/ 13:00:41 CLQ thanks 13:01:02 doughecka whats that one? 13:01:12 doughecka ah, java 13:03:11 jzaun yah, but its a PITA to get working 13:03:31 [TeA|TrEE] isnt EIRC a java-chat ? 13:03:31 doughecka heh 13:03:45 CLQ Do you know of any examples of it? 13:03:58 jzaun where are some listed on the page 13:03:59 bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 13:03:59 sussudio ibot jzaun 13:04:00 bzbot the severe cold (r): 0 (12-12). FERNY (B): 3 (11-8). Mr S.L.Y. Fox (G): -2 (3-5). Lamer podzabor [@rt & D] (B): -2 (0-2). 13:04:11 sussudio sunday 4pm.... lag city 13:04:15 sussudio stupid isp 13:07:26 CLQ Can you cofigure the server? 13:07:51 jzaun on both of them, yes 13:07:59 CLQ good 13:08:02 CLQ thanks 13:11:32 bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 13:11:32 Terminator ibot jzaun 13:11:33 bzbot Server is empty 13:11:47 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 13:11:47 CLQ ibot ducati 13:11:47 bzbot Ruudi [BZ] (R): 10 (50-40). [TeA]=Pingu (penguins) (R): 0 (7-7). couriousous (R): -18 (7-25). bh (G): 0 (1-1). XYZ (G): -11 (32-43). anaconda (R): 6 (36-30). Frenchie (G): -2 (1-3). 13:11:58 Terminator i just left ducati 13:12:12 CLQ iboot CLQ 13:12:18 you are the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 13:12:18 CLQ ibot CLQ 13:12:28 CLQ: sorry... 13:12:28 CLQ ibot i know 13:12:32 it has been said that Terminator is the greatest BZFlag player EVER! or very nice 13:12:32 Terminator ibot Terminator 13:12:39 Terminator: excuse me? 13:12:39 Terminator ibot thanx 13:12:46 heh 13:12:46 Terminator ibot hehe 13:12:58 hola, CLQ 13:12:58 CLQ ibot hello 13:13:01 CLQ: what? 13:13:01 CLQ ibot hello' 13:13:03 CLQ: i'm not following you... 13:13:03 CLQ ibot hello' 13:13:05 que tal, CLQ 13:13:05 CLQ ibot hello 13:13:07 hey, CLQ 13:13:07 CLQ ibot hello 13:13:09 hello, CLQ 13:13:09 CLQ ibot hello 13:13:11 hello, CLQ 13:13:11 CLQ ibot hello 13:13:22 ACTION drinks a foamy guinness draught 13:13:22 CLQ ibot drink 13:13:25 ACTION staggers around drunk and then pukes all over CLQ. 13:13:25 CLQ ibot drink 13:13:32 CLQ eeeeeewwwwwww 13:13:38 ACTION pukes over CLQ 13:13:38 CLQ ibot puke 13:13:49 CLQ: excuse me? 13:13:49 CLQ ibot insult 13:13:53 TeA is the best player i have ever seen 13:13:53 [TeA|TrEE] ibot, TeA? 13:13:57 [TeA|TrEE] lol 13:14:05 [TeA|TrEE] im still wondering who did that 13:14:09 terminator is the greatest BZFlag player EVER! or very nice 13:14:09 Terminator ibot terminator 13:14:15 you are the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 13:14:15 CLQ ibot CLQ 13:14:16 doughecka: i'm not following you... 13:14:16 doughecka ibot part bzflag 13:14:23 goodbye, doughecka. 13:14:23 doughecka ibot part #bzflag 13:14:47 CLQ me to 13:14:48 [TeA|TrEE] CLQ LOOOOOOOL 13:14:52 doughecka there 13:14:53 Terminator yippe 13:14:53 [TeA|TrEE]: huh? 13:14:53 [TeA|TrEE] ibot byebye 13:14:54 CLQ hi ibot 13:14:56 [TeA|TrEE] oh 13:14:59 hello, Terminator 13:14:59 Terminator ibot hello 13:15:04 ...but ibot is an ibot.... 13:15:04 [TeA|TrEE] ibot, you are so sweet 13:15:14 [TeA|TrEE]: what? 13:15:14 [TeA|TrEE] ibot, ibots ore sweet 13:15:20 Sorry, [TeA|TrEE], I'll keep my mouth shut. 13:15:20 [TeA|TrEE] ibot, shut up 13:15:24 Terminator: I forgot ibot 13:15:24 Terminator ibot forget ibot 13:15:27 [TeA|TrEE]: huh? 13:15:27 [TeA|TrEE] ibot, i hope so 13:15:30 i heard bzbot was http://heckamangroup.com/old/files/ 13:15:30 CLQ ibot bzbot 13:15:52 OK, Terminator. 13:15:52 Terminator ibot ibot is also the best bot in #bzflag 13:15:59 i am the best bot in #bzflag 13:15:59 Terminator ibot ibot 13:16:30 okay, CLQ. 13:16:30 CLQ ibot bzbot is also a bitter opponent 13:16:38 bzbot is http://heckamangroup.com/old/files/ or a bitter opponent 13:16:38 CLQ ibot bzbot 13:16:50 CLQ lol 13:16:54 CLQ an Terminator are friends 13:16:54 Terminator ibot CLQ an Terminator 13:17:03 CLQ :-) 13:17:11 Terminator :-) 13:19:23 burp is * ibot burps loudly 13:19:23 CLQ ibot burp 13:19:55 doughecka: I forgot burp 13:19:55 doughecka ibot forget burp 13:19:55 OK, doughecka. 13:19:55 doughecka ibot burp is <action> burps loudly 13:19:55 ACTION burps loudly 13:19:55 doughecka ibot burp 13:20:37 CLQ Terminator had an accsident this morning 13:20:37 sussudio how high can a tank jump? 13:20:37 i guess jump is how high 13:20:37 CLQ ibot jump 13:20:49 doughecka CLQ eH? 13:20:57 CLQ ? 13:21:09 doughecka accidendent? 13:21:16 CLQ yes 13:21:20 OK, Terminator. 13:21:20 Terminator ibot run is also <action> runs round the world 13:21:24 ACTION runs round the world 13:21:24 Terminator ibot run 13:22:33 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 13:22:33 Terminator ibot ducati 13:22:33 bzbot asdf (G): -2 (0-2). Ritchie (R): 0 (1-1). couriousous (R): -42 (21-63). huh wha (R): 0 (0-0). 123 (G): 12 (23-11). Frenchie (G): -12 (15-27). 13:22:39 bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 13:22:39 sussudio ibot jzaun 13:22:40 bzbot Server is empty 13:23:00 bzfquerylong games.astercity.net 5155 13:23:00 Terminator ibot astercity 13:23:03 bzbot jocler (R): 2 (26-24). ANGRY (R): -13 (1-14). BigPilot (G): -22 (3-25). Gabine (G): -1 (0-1). me (r): -17 (10-27). hekkin (r): 57 (60-3). n0id (P): 8 (25-17). fook yu (P): 8 (19-11). killerzwelch (R): 71 (142-71). Alex (P): -25 (5-30). 13:26:52 Terminator back 13:28:25 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 13:28:25 Terminator ibot ducati 13:28:26 bzbot asdf (G): -9 (8-17). Ritchie (R): 1 (20-19). w339 (TLZ) (R): 3 (5-2). huh wha (R): -12 (1-13). Nicson (R): 2 (16-14). 123 (G): 20 (42-22). Frenchie (G): -13 (28-41). 13:33:40 bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 13:33:40 jzaun ibot jzaun 13:33:41 bzbot Server is empty 14:02:50 CLQ: i'm not following you... 14:02:50 CLQ ibot snore 14:03:09 privet, CLQ 14:03:09 CLQ ibot say: hello 14:05:16 ACTION runs round the world 14:05:16 CLQ ibot run 14:05:30 ACTION burps loudly 14:05:30 CLQ ibot burp 14:05:50 ACTION drinks a foamy guinness draught 14:05:50 CLQ ibot drink 14:05:53 ACTION staggers around drunk and then pukes all over CLQ. 14:05:53 CLQ ibot drink 14:06:10 ACTION drifts off to sleep. 14:06:10 CLQ ibot sleep 14:06:48 CLQ: i'm not following you... 14:06:48 CLQ ibot ride 14:07:48 OK, CLQ. 14:07:48 CLQ ibot ride is <action> gallops along and falls off 14:07:53 ACTION gallops along and falls off 14:07:53 CLQ ibot ride 14:08:52 ...but ride is <action> gallops along and falls off... 14:08:52 CLQ ibot ride is <action> falls off at once 14:08:57 CLQ ok 14:09:23 ACTION sings off key 14:09:23 CLQ ibot sing 14:10:06 CLQ: what? 14:10:06 CLQ ibot read 14:10:43 OK, CLQ. 14:10:43 CLQ ibot read is <action> reads Lord of the rings 14:10:49 ACTION reads Lord of the rings 14:10:49 CLQ ibot read 14:10:58 CLQ: what? 14:10:58 CLQ ibot play 14:12:00 OK, CLQ. 14:12:00 CLQ ibot play is <action> stacks up blocks until thay fall down 14:12:04 ACTION stacks up blocks until thay fall down 14:12:04 CLQ ibot play 14:12:16 niihau, CLQ 14:12:16 CLQ hi, ibot! 14:12:33 CLQ: sorry... 14:12:33 CLQ ibot cry 14:13:49 OK, CLQ. 14:13:49 CLQ ibot cry is <say> bbuuuhuuuu 14:13:54 i heard cry was <say> bbuuuhuuuu 14:13:54 CLQ ibot cry 14:14:02 CLQ: I forgot cry 14:14:02 CLQ ibot forget cry 14:15:04 OK, CLQ. 14:15:04 CLQ ibot cry is <action> cryes and sobs until he nearly drownds in his own tears 14:15:08 ACTION cryes and sobs until he nearly drownds in his own tears 14:15:08 CLQ ibot cry 14:16:14 sussudio it's NOT CRYES 14:16:20 sussudio: I forgot cry 14:16:20 sussudio ibot forget cry 14:16:24 sussudio it's CRIES 14:16:25 sussudio CRIES 14:16:26 sussudio CRIES 14:16:29 CLQ sorry 14:16:49 OK, CLQ. 14:16:49 CLQ ibot cry is <action> cries and sobs until he nearly drownds in his own tears 14:16:53 ACTION cries and sobs until he nearly drownds in his own tears 14:16:53 CLQ ibot cry 14:16:58 sussudio eats some glass 14:17:53 Chestal yummy 14:18:02 CLQ: excuse me? 14:18:02 CLQ ibot lie 14:18:32 CLQ How do you get him to say something? 14:19:43 you are probably the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 14:19:43 CLQ ibot clq 14:19:43 you are the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 14:19:43 CLQ ibot CLQ 14:20:10 bzbot is, like, http://heckamangroup.com/old/files/ or a bitter opponent 14:20:10 CLQ ibot bzbot 14:20:19 i am probably the best bot in #bzflag 14:20:19 CLQ ibot ibot 14:20:29 CLQ tha only one 14:22:45 ACTION does a dicso dance. 14:22:45 CLQ ibot dance 14:23:19 CLQ: what? 14:23:19 CLQ ibot drive 14:24:48 sussudio dicso? 14:25:06 CLQ not me 14:25:22 sussudio: excuse me? 14:25:22 sussudio ibot factinfo dance 14:26:09 CLQ How do you spell shcumaker? 14:26:17 CLQ the F1 driver 14:26:19 CLQ ? 14:26:59 CLQ , 14:28:15 cya 14:28:15 CLQ ibot bye 14:30:05 The moon is made of cheese 14:30:05 CLQ ibot lie 14:30:39 The moon is made of cheese 14:30:39 CLQ ibot lie 14:31:07 CLQ: sorry... 14:31:07 CLQ ibot lie 14:31:18 sussudio it's spelled "cheater" 14:31:21 The moon is made of cheese 14:31:21 CLQ ibot lie 14:33:24 OK, CLQ. 14:33:24 CLQ ibot drive is <action> drives a F1 car and wins against Schumacher 14:33:31 ACTION drives a F1 car and wins against Schumacher 14:33:31 CLQ ibot drive 14:39:27 ACTION does an 80's style breakdance 14:39:27 CLQ ibot dance 14:41:39 CLQ: i'm not following you... 14:41:39 CLQ ibot snore 14:42:30 OK, CLQ. 14:42:30 CLQ ibot snore is <action> snores everyones ears off 14:42:35 ACTION snores everyones ears off 14:42:35 CLQ ibot snore 14:49:35 CLQ: excuse me? 14:49:35 CLQ ibot climb 14:50:23 OK, CLQ. 14:50:23 CLQ ibot climb is <action> Ibot climbs up a tree and falls down 14:50:28 ACTION Ibot climbs up a tree and falls down 14:50:28 CLQ ibot climb 14:50:30 cassie lol 14:50:39 CLQ: I forgot climb 14:50:39 CLQ ibot forget climb 14:50:45 OK, CLQ. 14:50:45 CLQ ibot climb is <action> climbs up a tree and falls down 14:50:49 ACTION climbs up a tree and falls down 14:50:49 CLQ ibot climb 14:51:03 CLQ look at the other ones i have made 14:51:09 ACTION drives a F1 car and wins against Schumacher 14:51:09 CLQ ibot drive 14:51:20 ACTION gallops along and falls off 14:51:20 CLQ ibot ride 14:51:25 The moon is made of cheese 14:51:25 CLQ ibot lie 14:51:42 cassie lol 14:51:47 ACTION cries and sobs until he nearly drownds in his own tears 14:51:47 CLQ ibot cry 14:52:00 ACTION stacks up blocks until thay fall down 14:52:00 CLQ ibot play 14:52:00 cassie aw 14:52:06 ACTION reads Lord of the rings 14:52:06 CLQ ibot read 14:52:30 ACTION snores everyones ears off 14:52:30 CLQ ibot snore 14:52:35 you are the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 14:52:35 CLQ ibot CLQ 14:52:38 CLQ lol 14:52:41 hmmm... CLQ is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 14:52:41 CLQ ibot CLQ 14:52:56 cassie lol 14:53:06 CLQ: what? 14:53:06 CLQ ibot cassie 14:53:16 CLQ what shall I write? 14:53:18 so damn sexy 14:53:18 cassie ibot mandy 14:53:27 cassie <<<mandy 14:53:35 OK, CLQ. 14:53:35 CLQ ibot cassie is mandy 14:53:41 cassie is mandy 14:53:41 CLQ ibot cassie 14:53:54 i guess i am the best bot in #bzflag 14:53:54 CLQ ibot ibot 14:54:12 somebody said cassie was mandy 14:54:12 CLQ ibot cassie 14:54:23 cassie lol 14:54:37 well, terminator is the greatest BZFlag player EVER! or very nice 14:54:37 CLQ ibot terminator 14:54:42 you are the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 14:54:42 CLQ ibot clq 14:54:54 CLQ: i'm not following you... 14:54:54 CLQ ibot clq and terminator 14:55:03 clq an terminator are friends 14:55:03 CLQ ibot clq an terminator 14:55:23 CLQ waves to Terminator 14:55:28 Terminator :-) 14:55:36 Terminator waves back 14:55:46 cassie hmm 14:55:53 somebody said lol was a acronym that stands for Laugh Out Loud. Go to http://mankindvsme.50megs.com/windowsfan.html for more information. 14:55:53 CLQ ibot lol 14:55:54 cassie waves at herself 14:56:06 Terminator lol 14:56:12 CLQ: sorry... 14:56:12 CLQ ibot lmao 14:56:25 CLQ look at the ones i have made 14:56:32 ACTION climbs up a tree and falls down 14:56:32 CLQ ibot climb 14:56:39 ACTION snores everyones ears off 14:56:39 CLQ ibot snore 14:56:43 ACTION drives a F1 car and wins against Schumacher 14:56:43 CLQ ibot drive 14:56:48 The moon is made of cheese 14:56:48 CLQ ibot lie 14:56:55 ACTION reads Lord of the rings 14:56:55 CLQ ibot read 14:56:59 ACTION stacks up blocks until thay fall down 14:56:59 CLQ ibot play 14:57:20 ACTION gallops along and falls off 14:57:20 CLQ ibot ride 14:57:26 ACTION cries and sobs until he nearly drownds in his own tears 14:57:26 CLQ ibot cry 14:57:30 CLQ lol 14:57:35 Terminator lol 14:57:44 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 14:57:44 Terminator ibot ducati 14:57:44 bzbot anaconda (R): 17 (57-40). Vins !!! (G): -10 (6-16). bh (R): 3 (4-1). Dig (G): -10 (27-37). Jman (G): -13 (24-37). Nicson (R): 103 (288-185). [BiPs]BaDiN (G): -8 (17-25). Sadista Muff (R): 22 (46-24). 14:57:47 bzgirl hello 14:57:50 bzgirl is a meanieç 14:57:50 CLQ ibot bzgirl 14:57:53 Terminator hi 14:57:56 CLQ hi 14:58:07 bzgirl i am a meanie ibot? 14:58:17 bzgirl hmmm 14:58:18 storm is the all-in-one PIM app written in Python/GTK. See http://storm-pim.sourceforge.net/. Latest CVS ipkgs are at http://ipaq.geekserve.org/storm_cvs - "Make my life look organized" - join #storm 14:58:18 Terminator ibot storm 14:58:18 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 14:58:18 CLQ ibot ducati 14:58:19 bzbot anaconda (R): 15 (57-42). Vins !!! (G): -12 (6-18). bh (R): 4 (6-2). Dig (G): -9 (29-38). Jman (G): -13 (25-38). Nicson (R): 104 (290-186). [BiPs]BaDiN (G): -7 (20-27). Sadista Muff (R): 22 (48-26). 14:58:53 CLQ want me to change it? 14:58:54 okay, Terminator. 14:58:54 Terminator ibot storm is also a member of The Elite which is headed by Terminator 14:59:09 i heard storm was the all-in-one PIM app written in Python/GTK. See http://storm-pim.sourceforge.net/. Latest CVS ipkgs are at http://ipaq.geekserve.org/storm_cvs - "Make my life look organized" - join #storm or a member of The Elite which is headed by Terminator 14:59:09 Terminator ibot storm 14:59:10 somebody said storm was the all-in-one PIM app written in Python/GTK. See http://storm-pim.sourceforge.net/. Latest CVS ipkgs are at http://ipaq.geekserve.org/storm_cvs - "Make my life look organized" - join #storm or a member of The Elite which is headed by Terminator 14:59:10 CLQ ibot storm 14:59:24 CLQ lol 14:59:56 CLQ bzgirl: do you want me to change it 15:00:19 bzgirl change what CLQ? 15:00:30 bzgirl is a meanieç 15:00:30 CLQ ibot bzgirl 15:00:43 bzgirl yes!! 15:00:47 bzgirl change it pleeeasw 15:00:54 CLQ: I forgot bzgirl 15:00:54 CLQ ibot forget bzgirl 15:01:11 OK, CLQ. 15:01:11 CLQ ibot bzgirl is the coolest around 15:01:16 bzgirl is the coolest around 15:01:16 CLQ ibot bzgirl 15:01:20 bzgirl yay 15:01:21 CLQ there 15:01:24 bzgirl thankks 15:01:32 CLQ you want something else 15:01:34 CLQ ? 15:01:54 bzgirl hmm..nah..i am cool with cool :) 15:02:01 CLQ lol 15:02:26 you are the most promising player ever and he has a nice face or a kind person 15:02:26 CLQ ibot CLQ 15:02:40 bzgirl :) 15:02:44 CLQ: I forgot clq 15:02:44 CLQ ibot forget clq 15:04:04 OK, CLQ. 15:04:04 CLQ ibot CLQ is <action> waves and screams hurray beacause CLQ is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face and is a kind person 15:04:10 ACTION waves and screams hurray beacause CLQ is the most promising player ever and he has a nice face and is a kind person 15:04:10 CLQ ibot clq 15:04:21 CLQ ha 15:05:16 removes the first X lines from stdin. URL: http://www.enol.com/~markw/src/eat.html 15:05:16 CLQ ibot eat 15:05:56 Package administration and research tool for Debian. URL: http://the.netpedia.net/the-software.html 15:05:56 CLQ ibot swim 15:06:11 jump is, like, how high 15:06:11 CLQ ibot jump 15:06:19 CLQ: excuse me? 15:06:19 CLQ ibot jump high 15:06:55 ACTION sings off key 15:06:55 CLQ ibot sing 15:07:18 CLQ: huh? 15:07:18 CLQ ibot sing on key 15:07:56 OK, CLQ. 15:07:56 CLQ ibot sing on key is <reply> Don`t bet on it 15:07:58 Don`t bet on it 15:07:58 CLQ ibot sing on key 15:08:02 CLQ lol 15:08:55 CLQ: i'm not following you... 15:08:55 CLQ ibot play bzflag 15:10:15 ACTION sings off key 15:10:15 CLQ ibot sing 15:10:17 ACTION sings loudly 15:10:17 CLQ ibot sing 15:10:18 ACTION sings loudly 15:10:18 CLQ ibot sing 15:10:20 ACTION sings loudly 15:10:20 CLQ ibot sing 15:10:21 ACTION sings off key 15:10:21 CLQ ibot sing 15:10:22 ACTION sings off key 15:10:22 CLQ ibot sing 15:11:16 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 15:11:16 Terminator ibot ducati 15:11:16 bzbot anaconda (R): 33 (112-79). Vins !!! (G): -32 (27-59). bh (R): 16 (39-23). Dig (G): -24 (56-80). Jman (G): -26 (64-90). Nicson (R): 108 (324-216). MrTank (G): -22 (6-28). M i r e l l a (R): 5 (5-0). 15:12:16 bzgirl Arnold, where's your team? 15:13:37 r: I forgot terminator 15:13:37 r ibot forget Terminator 15:13:57 OK, r. 15:13:57 r ibot Terminator is also a membery of the elite team :-) 15:13:58 Terminator hey 15:14:22 terminator is a membery of the elite team :-) 15:14:22 Terminator ibot terminator 15:14:33 Terminator: I forgot terminator 15:14:33 Terminator ibot forget terminator 15:15:24 OK, Terminator. 15:15:24 Terminator ibot terminator is also the leader of The Elite and he is an avid bzflag player that also like play UT2003 15:20:50 Widget http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2274521.stm 15:20:56 Widget Exit polls indicate a razor-thin victory for Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats (SPD) in the German general election. 15:20:56 Widget 15:22:43 paul hey widget 15:23:07 Widget hihihi 15:24:19 Terminator boo boo 15:24:30 Terminator yeah yeah 15:26:48 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 15:26:48 Terminator ibot ducati 15:26:49 bzbot red (G): -2 (4-6). Vins !!! (G): -6 (1-7). bh (R): 21 (75-54). Dig (G): -45 (79-124). Nicson (R): 139 (381-242). 15:27:09 bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 15:27:09 Terminator ibot jzaun 15:27:20 sussudio Exit polls showed people are sick of exit polls. One very obese german woman was quoted as saying "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARSCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" 15:27:35 Terminator huh? 15:28:35 bzfquerylong games.astercity.net 5155 15:28:35 Terminator ibot astercity 15:28:54 Terminator bzbot whats wrong with u 15:32:31 Terminator argg sundays r so boring 15:32:45 Terminator i havent been out da house all day today 15:32:49 Terminator i am so bored 15:33:28 ACTION does a dicso dance. 15:33:28 Terminator ibot dance 15:33:33 Terminator iboot dance 15:33:38 ACTION does an 80's style breakdance 15:33:38 Terminator ibot dance 15:33:43 ACTION does a dicso dance. 15:33:43 Terminator ibot dance 15:34:56 okay, Terminator. 15:34:56 Terminator ibot sing is also <action> "Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!" 15:35:00 ACTION sings off key 15:35:00 Terminator ibot sing 15:35:05 ACTION sings loudly or <action> "Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!" 15:35:05 Terminator ibot sing 15:35:19 Terminator doh 15:36:00 ...but sing is <action> sings off key|<action> sings loudly or <action> "Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!"... 15:36:00 Terminator ibot sing is <action> "Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!" 15:36:16 Terminator doh! 15:53:11 sussudio -|- (Bee_Gees)_Tragedy.mp3 (6,046,952 bytes 160kbps Joint Stereo 5mins 3secs Genre:Dance Year:1979 Album:Spirits Having Flown 15:53:20 sussudio dance, bot 16:05:01 Widget libnet wants me to input SNPP hosts... what are these? 16:09:24 sussudio http://www.snpp.info/ 16:09:30 Terminator k 16:10:19 Terminator yawn 16:10:46 Widget Fooey, I already went past that question. 16:11:01 Terminator ya can vist my older bro's website at www.onyeyiri.co.uk 16:11:13 Terminator my wbsite is still under construction 16:14:54 doughecka wow 16:15:14 doughecka Dells website has docs on there 286/386/486 computers still 16:15:26 doughecka on/for 16:26:52 Widget Shoot. 16:26:58 doughecka heya Widget! 16:27:00 doughecka er 16:27:02 Widget I added knewsticker to my panel, but now whenever KDE starts the panel crashes. 16:27:04 Widget hihihi 16:27:05 doughecka hihihi Widget! 16:27:15 doughecka knewsticker? 16:27:33 Widget Yes. 16:27:36 Widget It's an applet. 16:27:38 Widget That scrolls news. 16:27:40 doughecka hmm 16:28:01 doughecka This page was brought to you using at least 70% post-consumer recycled electrons. 16:33:25 doughecka wow 16:33:26 doughecka writes "The largest IRC network in the world, EFNet, has set another world-record max user count after breaking an astonishing 100,000 concurrent users earlier tonight!" 16:35:15 Terminator k 16:35:26 Terminator where did ya read dat 16:35:34 doughecka slashdot 16:35:40 Slashdot - Updated 2002-09-22 16:42:17 | More on MIT OpenCourseWare | Pictures Leaked of 3 new Palm handhelds | EFNet Reaches 100,000 Concurrent Connections | HDTV and Its Impending Problems? 16:35:40 doughecka ibot slashdot 16:35:52 Terminator k 16:36:08 Terminator match in hour and 15 mins 16:36:15 doughecka lol 16:36:21 Terminator y lol 16:36:34 doughecka you keep counting down 16:36:36 doughecka :P 16:36:52 Terminator hehe 16:45:00 Widget Odd. 16:45:11 doughecka indeed 16:45:22 Widget X works fine, but if I try to switch to a console, it says Horizontal frequency out of range. 16:45:35 doughecka hmm 16:52:02 Widget How do you turn framebuffering off? 16:52:35 sussudio dont load the fb module? :-P 16:52:36 doughecka dont ask me... :) 16:52:49 bzgirl Widget: do you use lilo? 16:53:01 doughecka /msg lilo 16:53:07 bzgirl i think you can mess with the fb in lilo 16:53:12 Widget bzgirl: Yes. 16:53:26 doughecka :P 16:53:38 Widget sussudio: I got the kernel from a Debian package. :( 16:55:50 Widget bzgirl: How do you turn fb off in lilo? 16:57:44 bzgirl Widget: not sure, i am looking at my lilo.conf.. 16:57:55 sussudio load a kernel without fb? 16:58:08 Widget sussudio: But that would involve... compiling my own kernel. 16:58:16 sussudio and? 16:58:53 sussudio do you own a 486 or something? 16:59:09 Widget No, but I don't want to mess things up. 16:59:25 sussudio :-| 16:59:33 bzgirl try adding vga = ask to your lilo.conf 16:59:49 bzgirl oh..wait 17:00:02 bzgirl paul has some more tips :) 17:00:15 bzgirl eg video=matrox:disabled 17:00:15 bzgirl <paul> will disable matroxfbv 17:00:15 bzgirl <paul> will disable matroxfb 17:00:33 paul vga=ask is a good one. 17:00:45 paul make sure you have vga console compiled in too. 17:01:11 Widget # Specifies the VGA text mode at boot time. (normal, extended, ask, <mode>) 17:01:11 Widget # 17:01:11 Widget # vga=ask 17:01:11 Widget # vga=9 17:01:11 Widget # 17:01:11 Widget vga=normal 17:01:13 Widget Here? 17:01:19 bzgirl yup 17:01:24 Widget Comment out vga = normal and uncomment vga=ask? 17:01:28 bzgirl yup 17:01:40 Widget OK, thanks... I'll restart now. 17:04:01 Widget Wow, it works! 17:04:03 Widget Thanks so much! 17:04:06 bzgirl yay 17:09:47 boo doink, stats,bzflag.org chat works! how did you get that workin? 17:10:35 doughecka heya patlabor221! 17:10:40 doughecka erk 17:10:48 sussudio :-\ 17:10:54 doughecka come on 17:10:55 doughecka join 17:10:56 doughecka heya patlabor221! 17:10:59 Patlabor221 sup 17:11:07 doughecka nothin 17:12:11 doughecka hmm 17:12:32 doughecka would a 13 inch laptop display work as a drop in replacement for a 14 inch screen? 17:12:45 doughecka its from the same model laptop 17:12:50 Patlabor221 do they both support the same res? 17:12:56 doughecka hmm 17:13:00 doughecka I guess so 17:13:00 Patlabor221 and are the conectors the same? 17:13:14 sussudio doughecka: i guess you'll know by the smell 17:13:14 Patlabor221 13's that do 1024 are rare 17:13:21 doughecka dunno, cant tell I could check 17:13:24 Patlabor221 it pralby does 800 17:13:27 doughecka hmm 17:13:30 doughecka ok 17:13:38 doughecka I lost my LCD action 17:13:41 doughecka aution* 17:13:58 doughecka by 5 bucks, the guy had a reserve on it at 195 17:14:14 Patlabor221 that's why I say bid the most you want to pay 17:14:21 doughecka I bid 190, which is the most I could payed for it 17:14:24 sussudio i have an XP laptop with an LCD display :-| 17:14:28 sussudio XT even 17:14:28 Patlabor221 well then there you go 17:14:30 doughecka I dont have that much 17:14:43 doughecka hmm 17:14:54 doughecka maybe I can talk my uncle into paying for it 17:14:55 Patlabor221 arn't you geting a new CPU and Mobo too? 17:14:59 sussudio i also have a 286 laptop in several pieces 17:15:04 Widget hihihi, Sniper. 17:15:10 Widget Du gamla, du fria.... 17:15:13 bamf hola snip 17:15:16 doughecka Patlabor221: I was gonna get either a new screen or a new mobo 17:15:20 doughecka I might ebay 17:15:20 Sniper hi widget 17:15:27 Sniper its correct :)) 17:15:30 Widget Du fjällhöga nord... 17:15:34 doughecka for the mobo and anthlon XP1600 17:15:35 Sniper hahahaha 17:15:37 Patlabor221 is it a P2 or a P3? 17:15:40 Widget Dy tysta, du glädjerika sköna. 17:15:42 doughecka P2 17:15:42 sussudio fiskymatter 17:15:48 Sniper new book i see 17:15:48 Widget Gah. umlauts are so hard to type. 17:15:50 Patlabor221 get that atalon 17:15:54 doughecka bah 17:15:55 doughecka ok 17:16:02 Sniper å ä ö 17:16:02 Widget sussudio: Is een technically supposed to be written één? 17:16:05 doughecka I guess I shall bug my uncle for a replacemtn 17:16:16 Widget My keyboard doesn't have å. 17:16:19 Widget Only ä and ö. 17:16:22 doughecka Æ 17:16:30 sussudio i have a norwegian keyboard somewhere 17:16:34 Widget Old English had Æ. 17:16:35 doughecka -Æ¤öÆû9Wò 17:16:36 Sniper mine have :) 17:16:41 sussudio it's totally screwed up with the layout 17:16:41 Widget Norwegian keyboards don't have it either, I think. 17:16:51 sussudio i scanned it once.... let me see. 17:16:54 Widget French keyboards are the worst. 17:16:56 Sniper yes but they looks diffrent 17:17:05 doughecka is making a laser map 17:17:14 Patlabor221 of what? 17:17:24 doughecka in bzedit 17:17:32 sussudio http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/nor-kb.jpg 17:17:39 sussudio note: kb is bigger than scanner. 17:17:52 doughecka haha 17:18:07 doughecka how big is a tank? 17:18:12 doughecka size? 17:18:15 Widget Wow.... Dutch keyboards are cool. 17:18:22 sussudio thats not dutch 17:18:24 doughecka rolls his eyes 17:18:28 Widget http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Input_Device/INPUT_Du_Kbd.html 17:18:29 sussudio it's norwegian 17:18:29 Patlabor221 6 ish by 3 ish by 4 ish 17:18:29 Widget sussudio: http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Input_Device/INPUT_Du_Kbd.html 17:18:31 doughecka ok 17:18:36 doughecka rounds up 17:18:37 sussudio i have an NL kb somewhere 17:18:42 sussudio and a german one 17:18:55 sussudio maybe a fwench azerty pieceocrap too 17:19:23 Widget But... do you have an English keyboard? 17:19:30 sussudio yes i do 17:19:33 Widget Oh. Pfft. 17:19:35 Widget American? 17:20:09 sussudio american is neither a country nor a kb 17:20:21 Widget US Keyboard layout. 17:20:30 Widget Which is frequently referred to as the "American" layout. 17:20:30 sussudio is engwrish 17:20:40 Widget The US Keyboard Layout is different from the English layout. 17:20:43 sussudio america =! US 17:21:01 Widget The US is frequently referred to as America, so most people understand it as such. 17:21:08 sussudio bull 17:21:14 sussudio eh 17:21:25 Patlabor221 yeah uraguay south, what about them? 17:21:33 Widget Anyway, US layouts are different from UK layouts. 17:21:42 Widget UK is more like the European layout. 17:21:45 Patlabor221 what is difrent? 17:21:45 Widget layouts. 17:21:55 Widget The enter key, and the signs on top of the numbers. 17:22:00 Widget Shift+7 is /, for instance. 17:22:01 sussudio i have a wang keyboard somewhere with 36 f-keys :-P 17:22:09 Widget And the left shift key is smaller. 17:22:13 Patlabor221 LOL 17:22:23 sussudio and it beeps when you type 17:22:25 sussudio really annoying 17:22:29 sussudio built-in speaker 17:22:30 Patlabor221 what do they do to the enter key? 17:22:41 Widget It's.... more narrow. 17:22:47 Widget Look at the Norwegian keyboard. 17:22:52 Widget http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/nor-kb.jpg 17:22:57 Patlabor221 like the size of the tab key? 17:23:13 Widget Actually, the Norwegian keyboard is a bad example. 17:23:14 Sniper thats an old one 17:23:26 Patlabor221 very 17:23:34 Patlabor221 there are ones here with that type of enter key 17:23:43 doughecka pats his apple keyboard and wonders back to bzedit 17:23:43 Patlabor221 hate em, makes them move \ 17:23:54 sussudio slaps doughecka around with a mac kb 17:24:05 Patlabor221 those things don't even have delete keys 17:24:11 doughecka so? 17:24:12 sussudio hm lemmesee 17:24:22 Patlabor221 well the extended one does 17:24:24 sussudio nope they dont 17:24:33 Patlabor221 the little one dosn't 17:24:40 Patlabor221 and those arrow keys are a joke 17:24:41 sussudio what that key next to 'option' for 17:24:43 Widget Patlabor221: http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Input_Device/INPUT_UK_Kbd.html 17:24:49 Widget Patlabor221: That's a UK keyboard. 17:24:58 Patlabor221 the "cmd" key 17:25:13 sussudio someone threw it away 17:25:14 Widget Slightly different from both European keyboards and American ones. 17:25:16 doughecka the pro keyboard 17:25:17 sussudio found it on the street 17:25:26 Patlabor221 who needs a returnkey that large 17:25:47 doughecka I dont understand how adobe has software that works on both mac and PC, but the pc dont have a option key 17:26:03 Sniper this is my keybord small picture http://213.136.33.208/img/u2/1/0/5/55587l.jpg 17:26:04 sussudio key remap :-? 17:26:09 doughecka they would have to change it to something else, cuz you cant use the windows key 17:26:12 Patlabor221 that's why they had to redo left shift 17:26:23 Patlabor221 ohh the bent ones 17:26:23 doughecka ah 17:26:28 Widget Aussie keyboards are just like American ones. 17:26:38 Patlabor221 no it dosn't work as the windows key 17:26:50 Patlabor221 it's a pain to use apple keyborads and mice on PCs 17:27:04 Patlabor221 like driving in a car that can only make left turns 17:27:09 Sniper lol 17:27:19 Widget German rivals neck and neck 17:27:19 Widget Both sides in Germany's general election claim victory, as exit polls and early results suggest the election is too close to call. 17:27:19 Widget 17:27:23 Patlabor221 or being boorn with one nipple 17:27:28 sussudio Widget: just covered in a thin layer of vegemite? 17:27:42 Patlabor221 what is vegemite? 17:27:48 sussudio Patlabor221: compost on toast 17:27:56 Patlabor221 poop? 17:27:57 doughecka yea 17:27:59 sussudio yeah pretty much 17:28:04 sussudio "yeast extract" 17:28:05 Patlabor221 roting vegtable matter? 17:28:05 doughecka or using a PC keyboard on a a mac 17:28:09 Patlabor221 ick 17:28:23 sussudio i think they scrape it off the bottom of beer vats after it's been sitting there for a couple of months 17:28:24 Patlabor221 doug that's actualy not too bad they keys remap 17:28:32 Widget Patlabor221: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Vegemite&lastnode_id=115764 17:28:34 Patlabor221 and since there are more keys 17:28:42 doughecka hmm 17:28:45 doughecka yea 17:28:49 Widget It's the Australian answer to Marmite and Promite. 17:28:54 doughecka but the alt key = cmd 17:29:00 doughecka and stuff 17:29:00 sussudio and germ warfare 17:29:17 Patlabor221 yeah it's in the same place 17:29:29 Patlabor221 ick, it's decribed as "goo" 17:29:31 doughecka but optian = ??? 17:29:35 Patlabor221 the windows key 17:29:38 sussudio booooger 17:29:38 Widget So is Marmite. 17:29:39 doughecka nope 17:29:41 Widget Marmite is horrible. 17:29:45 Widget Worse than most British food. 17:29:50 Widget Which is saying something. 17:29:56 sussudio worse than fried bread? 17:30:05 Patlabor221 arn't you going to the UK soon widget? 17:30:08 doughecka I used a Ps/2 keyboard though 17:30:20 Patlabor221 how did you manage that? 17:30:22 Widget Patlabor221: Tomorrow. :( 17:30:25 Patlabor221 VNC? 17:30:27 doughecka clone mac 17:30:37 doughecka my mac has PS/2 17:30:40 doughecka odd 17:30:48 Patlabor221 widget: I thought you were all excited about it? 17:30:52 Sniper Any team thats going to have thre players today??? 17:30:55 doughecka Widget: OH? 17:31:03 Patlabor221 you sure it's a PS2? 17:31:08 doughecka yup 17:31:14 doughecka I see the adb 17:31:14 Widget Patlabor221: But I'm not coming back home for half a year at least. 17:31:23 Patlabor221 yeah that is rought 17:31:26 doughecka Widget will you have i-net? 17:31:33 Patlabor221 doug: what make is the mac? 17:31:38 Widget doughecka: Ya. 17:31:43 doughecka starmax 17:31:51 Sniper bye 17:31:53 doughecka clone mac 17:32:00 Patlabor221 never hard of it 17:32:08 doughecka good 17:32:19 doughecka made by motorola 17:33:42 Patlabor221 LOL the :) is 20 years old 17:33:51 doughecka ? 17:33:55 doughecka oh 17:34:05 doughecka :D 17:34:17 Widget As of day before yesterday, right? 17:34:22 Patlabor221 yes 17:34:23 Patlabor221 http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20020916/emoticon.html 17:34:29 doughecka was on /. 17:34:50 Widget And on K5. 17:35:01 doughecka heh 17:36:38 Patlabor221 has just han an epifnay 17:36:47 doughecka ? 17:36:55 sussudio i think that's generic prozac 17:37:04 Patlabor221 nope 17:37:27 Patlabor221 they woulnd't give me that 17:37:39 Patlabor221 so I had to subsitue it with JD 17:37:47 Terminator 15 mins to da match 17:38:56 bamf terminator: have all members? 17:38:59 bamf we are ready anytime 17:39:35 Terminator we have me and dmp 17:39:56 Terminator but MANIJ BUU dosent jse mirc 17:40:01 bamf ok, when you are ready, go to ducati server, port 59999 and join as green team 17:40:02 Terminator or msn im 17:40:06 Terminator k 17:40:07 bamf got it? 17:40:18 bamf we are already there 17:40:21 Terminator yup 17:40:25 Terminator k 17:40:28 bamf cu in a bit 17:40:31 Terminator be there soon 17:41:58 Patlabor221 do people actualy buy this crap? 17:41:59 Patlabor221 http://www.psky.com/adresponse1.html 17:42:15 doughecka haha 17:42:34 doughecka I have the manual to one that went belly up 17:42:35 sussudio you mean like buypoop.com? 17:42:38 [dmp] game is full? 17:42:53 [dmp] trying again 17:43:04 doughecka Here is a screen shot from a GCS-created game. It is a loading dock, with cracked cement floor. Looking outside, you can see the sky in the background, and the lamp posts shining light on the ground and the walls. 17:43:10 doughecka wow 17:43:19 doughecka amazing, unheard of 17:43:24 Patlabor221 looks like complete ass 17:43:26 Terminator dmp join green 17:43:30 doughecka heh 17:44:01 Patlabor221 and "no programing required" 17:44:22 doughecka right 17:44:31 doughecka click and drag stuff 17:45:01 doughecka I bet all it is is a game engine where you design the levels and maps and textures and stuff, and pick what guns go where 17:45:08 Patlabor221 yup 17:46:52 doughecka can you elevate CTF bases? 17:47:15 sussudio :-| 17:47:47 Patlabor221 yes 17:47:55 doughecka hmm, k 17:48:03 Patlabor221 then they have a thickness of 1 and the walls of a box 17:48:16 doughecka hmm 17:48:25 doughecka walls of a box? 17:48:29 Patlabor221 yeah 17:48:32 Patlabor221 the brick stuff 17:48:47 doughecka ah 17:48:50 doughecka ok 17:48:57 Patlabor221 that's what cap told me happend, so that's how I implemented it 17:49:06 doughecka k 17:51:30 doughecka is away: bust 17:51:57 Patlabor221 your geting boobs? 17:52:15 doughecka is away: busy 17:52:25 Patlabor221 buys geting boobs? 17:57:12 doughecka Dropping team base down to 0 because -fb not set 17:57:12 doughecka Dropping team base down to 0 because -fb not set 17:57:16 doughecka ? 17:57:22 doughecka -fb? 17:57:36 doughecka hmm 17:57:37 doughecka odd 17:57:42 doughecka guess I have to look it up 17:57:49 doughecka is away: busy! 17:58:09 Patlabor221 boobs! 17:58:36 Terminator dmp we need u in ducati 17:58:44 bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 17:58:44 Terminator ibot ducati 18:19:41 Nicole hi hi hi 18:23:19 [dmp] weee.. that we alot of fun 18:25:48 [dmp] that was alot of fun.. damn, brain-fix needed.. as well as a team. 18:28:56 sussudio a: 18:39:18 Sniper Any team available for a match?? 18:40:55 captain_proton wakes up 18:41:36 Sniper DDD:s Penguins match now any available against Vbz 18:45:22 Widget Sniper: Did you win? 18:48:22 bzgirl we think it was a forefit 18:48:52 bzgirl one of theirs left when we were up 5-0, mum had to use his pc :) 18:49:01 bzgirl but we are not sure of the rule on that 18:49:18 captain_proton yay for moondog 19:00:59 [dmp] a shame. i was looking forward to test my skills agains other "real" ctf-players.. :-) 19:01:32 Cell_prog_insect hi, i just was thinking about how to implement redo/undo functionality in a 3d editor(or more generally how to implement it in an application that stores all its data in objects). It seems quite a very challenging task for me. Has someone experience on that? Or is there a standard way(design)? 19:02:47 Patlabor221 there are 2 common ways 19:02:54 Patlabor221 1) make a copy of the data set 19:02:57 Cell_prog_insect I was thinking of serilize the objects data state at every stepits changed 19:03:03 Patlabor221 2) keep a log of the changes 19:03:14 Patlabor221 tht would be slow 19:03:21 Cell_prog_insect yes 19:03:36 Patlabor221 why not jut copy it in ram? 19:04:56 Cell_prog_insect if i have a double linked triangle list for exaple and i do a remove operation, and want to undo that, should i serialize the whole list every time? 19:05:23 Patlabor221 or just log the removal 19:05:36 Patlabor221 with a log you get multiple undos 19:05:42 Cell_prog_insect how would that look 19:05:59 Patlabor221 look? 19:06:08 Patlabor221 you keep a list of all "actions" 19:06:13 Cell_prog_insect in my example, what would u log 19:06:27 Patlabor221 a "removal event" 19:06:31 Patlabor221 and the data that was rmoved 19:06:37 Patlabor221 and where it was removed from 19:07:01 Patlabor221 then if you need to undo it, you have all the data to put it back 19:07:05 benDOTc Cell_prog_insect: Read the first page of http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/papers/dancing.ps.gz to see how logging the removal of an element from a linked list should work. 19:07:06 Cell_prog_insect k, but that requiers to write a log for every action 19:07:14 benDOTc Yup. 19:07:15 Patlabor221 yes 19:07:28 benDOTc wonders why this is on #bzflag. 19:07:32 Cell_prog_insect i read 19:07:38 Patlabor221 the other way is a brute force method 19:07:48 Cell_prog_insect k 19:07:48 Patlabor221 becasue we can :) 19:08:01 Patlabor221 and i have thgoutha bout doing this in the bz editor 19:08:17 benDOTc Patlabor221: Hey, it's no problem, i was just surprised to look up and see what channel i'm on. 19:08:25 benDOTc I was thinking this was #c++ or something. 19:08:26 Patlabor221 that's common here 19:11:15 Patlabor221 cell I thought you were using 3dsMax for all your editing? 19:12:06 Cell_prog_insect yes but since the uni starts in 2 weeks i have to continue working on my teeth editor 19:12:17 Patlabor221 uni? 19:12:23 Patlabor221 ahh school 19:12:23 Cell_prog_insect university 19:12:34 Cell_prog_insect yes 19:13:01 captain_proton Patlabor221: you're leaving out way #3 - keep multiple copies of the data set 19:13:24 Patlabor221 that was #1 19:13:37 Patlabor221 copy the data on every change 19:14:14 Patlabor221 that can get huge tho 19:14:39 Cell_prog_insect one more question: is there a cool data structure that has the benefits of an array and a ddouble linked list, acess of elements in an array is O(1), remove is O(2*n) and removeat is O(n), in a double linked list we have for element acess is O(n), remove is O(1), removeat is O(n). Is there a structer that has all the ops O(1), hence in constant time? 19:15:20 Patlabor221 the STL list? 19:15:38 Patlabor221 or just make a linked array of pointers 19:16:09 Patlabor221 specifcly an doubl linked list and an array of pointers 19:16:14 Patlabor221 all in one class 19:16:32 Cell_prog_insect struct Vertex { /* data ....*/, Vertex * p Next; Vertex *pPrev;} 19:16:33 scanline is back (gone 10:46:03) 19:16:58 Cell_prog_insect double linked list 19:18:43 benDOTc Cell_prog_insect: No, there's not. If there were, there'd be no reason for those other data structures. 19:18:57 Patlabor221 ohh tripply linked lists :) 19:19:01 Cell_prog_insect benDOTc:thought so 19:19:03 benDOTc That's not entirely true, but the point stands: such a thing doesn't exist. 19:19:15 Cell_prog_insect how about a hash table? 19:19:16 scanline heap maybe? 19:19:22 Cell_prog_insect nope 19:19:34 Patlabor221 why not the list and an array of pointers to it 19:19:39 scanline err.. I meant hash, wrong h-word :) 19:19:43 Patlabor221 wouln't that do it? 19:20:00 benDOTc Patlabor221: what happens when you add an element to the list and you have to update the pointer array? 19:20:17 benDOTc Patlabor221: Or when you remove an element... 19:20:18 Cell_prog_insect Patlabor221:that does not work 19:20:23 Patlabor221 add one to the end 19:20:30 Patlabor221 yeah that would be iccky 19:22:05 benDOTc A hash can access in constant time iff you know some things about the data ahead of time. 19:22:10 captain_proton Patlabor221: hmmmmm 19:22:19 scanline morning captain_proton 19:22:20 benDOTc That is, collisions are a problem in hashes. 19:22:24 captain_proton morning 19:22:25 Cell_prog_insect 3d studio uses an simple array, and every time u create a new vertex, it reallocates a new vertex array of size n+1 and copies the elements from the old array to the new one, now i know why 3d studio gets slow with more then 100k polygons 19:22:40 Patlabor221 cap:??? 19:22:47 scanline pukes... "u" is not a pronoun 19:22:48 benDOTc Cell_prog_insect: Jeebus, that's terrible! 19:22:58 Cell_prog_insect yes 19:23:05 Cell_prog_insect but its reality 19:23:54 Patlabor221 I've allways thought max to be a pig :) 19:23:57 benDOTc Cell_prog_insect: I'd go with a deque that acts like a stack. Push things on as you change it, pop them off when you undo, and pull them off the bottom when it gets too big. 19:25:05 benDOTc Cell_prog_insect: Of course, it'd be nice to be able to write things in the deque to disk as you go, too... 19:25:18 benDOTc That is, so memory doesn' 19:25:26 benDOTc doesn't fill up with the junk. 19:26:18 Cell_prog_insect i have to think about it 19:27:19 captain_proton mmap() is your friend 19:27:41 captain_proton but if you've got a good logging system, your undo/redo stack won't be very big anyway 19:27:52 Patlabor221 yeah that's what I wasy saying 19:28:35 Cell_prog_insect i just never did that before, so i have to figure out a good logging system 19:29:39 Cell_prog_insect i have to parse the log so it would be a good idea to use xml 19:29:49 Patlabor221 why save the log? 19:29:55 Patlabor221 it can just be stuff in ram 19:30:11 Patlabor221 I'd make an action base class 19:30:12 Cell_prog_insect yes, bit has to be parsed anyway 19:30:18 benDOTc Or if you do save to disk, just do it in a binary fasion. 19:30:25 Patlabor221 only if it' text 19:30:39 Patlabor221 I'd make then derive off one for each action 19:30:46 Cell_prog_insect k 19:30:52 scanline You want' to be able to seek quickly to any point in the log probably, and XML wouldn't do that 19:30:58 scanline s/want'/want/ 19:31:00 Patlabor221 make the log be a list of actions that know how to do, undo and redo themselces 19:31:26 Patlabor221 and if you want make them be able to save themselves into a file. 19:31:34 Cell_prog_insect yes thats a good idea 19:31:53 benDOTc scanline: Yeah, but why would you want to seek quickly to any point in the log? You can't count on being able to undo things that you've undone things since. 19:32:13 captain_proton you only care about the topmost element 19:32:19 scanline benDOTc: I was thinking you'd have a current position in there, with items to undo on one side and redo on the other side 19:32:48 captain_proton just have another deque/etc 19:33:08 captain_proton when you undo, you pop from the undo stack and push onto the redo stack 19:33:24 benDOTc scanline: I see. But still, that's only one place to keep track of. 19:33:28 captain_proton simplifies the data structure a lot 19:33:52 Cell_prog_insect one thing is that u can runtime compile and execute code, so maybe i could lof the code for every action 19:34:03 Cell_prog_insect in c# 19:34:51 Cell_prog_insect for every action that makes it undo, 19:34:56 Patlabor221 why would you want to store code? 19:35:06 Patlabor221 can't you just do regular classes? 19:35:34 Cell_prog_insect because then i can use a combination of operations composed at runtime 19:35:47 Cell_prog_insect i dont need to write a separeta action class 19:35:50 Cell_prog_insect code 19:35:59 Cell_prog_insect for each situation 19:36:26 Patlabor221 code is code 19:36:32 Cell_prog_insect no 19:36:59 Patlabor221 you still have to define what code gets saved right? 19:37:07 Patlabor221 for each action 19:37:27 Cell_prog_insect yes 19:37:45 Patlabor221 and that has to be done in code 19:37:57 Patlabor221 so I don't realy see the difrence 19:38:40 Cell_prog_insect i have to rethink 19:40:13 Patlabor221 why in the name of all that is holy do people like the edfault windows XP theme? 19:45:23 captain_proton it reminds them of their childhood playthings 19:45:39 Patlabor221 it must 19:45:47 Patlabor221 first thing I changed 19:46:02 Patlabor221 now I am growing to like the custamizability of the new start menu 19:47:53 captain_proton i like the customizability of bzedit 19:47:55 captain_proton SHIZZUCKA 19:48:24 Patlabor221 see now your just being rude. 19:48:49 Patlabor221 but do you have mouse drag? 19:49:00 captain_proton i don't have any objects yet <grin> 19:49:10 Patlabor221 LOL 19:49:24 Patlabor221 I did look into wxWindows last night 19:49:27 Patlabor221 it's interesting 19:49:31 captain_proton 'tis silly 19:49:38 captain_proton or at least was silly when i looked at it 19:49:42 Cell_prog_insect i saw wxWindows on flipcode 19:49:53 Patlabor221 kinda pain to get going 19:49:57 Widget Is that some sort of widget set? 19:50:01 Patlabor221 they do now have a GL widget thing 19:50:17 Patlabor221 it's a windows wraper for multi OS dev 19:50:27 Patlabor221 I need to play with it some more 19:50:51 Patlabor221 as I want to ditch the MFC stuff 19:50:55 Patlabor221 no need for it anymore 19:52:09 captain_proton you're going to do it with wx? ewe 19:52:19 Patlabor221 I don't know yet 19:52:24 Patlabor221 I am looking at difrent stuff 19:52:28 Cell_prog_insect will bzflag 1.8 contain other objects, like pyramid, box and so 19:52:36 Patlabor221 seems GTK for windows is not that stable 19:52:42 Patlabor221 in 1.8 they can be anything 19:52:56 Patlabor221 map defineable models and such 19:53:06 Cell_prog_insect so u all have to make a lot of changes to ur bzflag editors 19:53:07 captain_proton Patlabor221: gtk2 for win should be halfway decent 19:53:08 Cell_prog_insect ? 19:53:24 Patlabor221 cap: I only see 1.3 19:53:42 captain_proton hmm, 1.3 was the version number used for 2 while it was in development 19:53:44 Cell_prog_insect u have nothing man can construct geometry 19:53:54 scanline screama 19:53:55 captain_proton see if its got a GtkTreeView widget 19:53:58 scanline err.. 19:54:00 scanline screams 19:54:06 Patlabor221 http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/ 19:54:10 captain_proton wonders who is trying to rape scanline 19:54:18 scanline captain_proton: the pseudopronouns! 19:54:22 Patlabor221 cell yes the editors will have to almost be completly redon in the back end 19:54:28 scanline screams "u is not a pronoun!" 19:54:30 captain_proton Patlabor221: GTK+ 1.3.0 and 2.0.6 19:54:33 captain_proton 2.0.6 is what you want 19:54:39 Patlabor221 ok 19:54:50 Patlabor221 I love the line "The program(s) might crash unexpectedly or behave otherwise strangely" 19:55:07 Widget Patlabor221: You can't use GIFs. 19:55:23 Widget Patlabor221: Haha. 19:55:23 Patlabor221 I don't use gifs 19:55:37 Cell_prog_insect now, what exactly is a glContext? 19:55:37 Widget Patlabor221: "To be able to do this, make sure that either you are in a country where Unisys doesn't have a patent on the LZW algorithm, or that you have a license from Unisys." 19:55:58 Patlabor221 "The packages below are GTK+ 2.0. Remember that GTK+ 2.0 is not as stable on Windows as it is on Unix." 19:56:04 Patlabor221 widget that is for GIMP 19:56:10 Patlabor221 and I loathe gime 19:56:12 Patlabor221 gimp 19:56:30 Patlabor221 not as muchas I used to tho 19:56:45 captain_proton it grows on you 19:57:06 Patlabor221 if tha'ts all you got,yeah I can see that it would 19:57:14 Patlabor221 thankfully that's not all I got 19:58:58 scanline I've used other image editors.. and I still like Gimp best 19:59:27 Patlabor221 I'll porobably be a photoshop man forever 19:59:30 Patlabor221 as that's what I learned 19:59:34 captain_proton me too 19:59:56 Patlabor221 ok so it seems QT blows goats 19:59:56 Cell_prog_insect why not use java for the user interface 20:00:00 scanline captain_proton: what do you run photoshop on? =) 20:00:08 Patlabor221 cell: Cus I want speed 20:00:09 captain_proton scanline: right now nothing 20:00:28 Patlabor221 and I don't know Java 20:00:55 Patlabor221 and it's all "least common denominator stuff" 20:04:31 Patlabor221 ohh I could do the entire interface in OenGL :) 20:04:36 Patlabor221 and make it all 3d 20:04:56 Cell_prog_insect but how do u get the Context 20:05:11 Patlabor221 SDL 20:05:18 captain_proton ponders making all the object data interfaced through setItemInfo and getItemInfo 20:05:18 Cell_prog_insect oh, k 20:05:24 Patlabor221 that'll do it on all the major OSs 20:05:43 Patlabor221 cap I thought about that 20:05:54 captain_proton and... ? 20:06:02 Patlabor221 never realy decided 20:06:05 Cell_prog_insect k, but it takes a long time to build ur own controls with opebGL 20:06:32 Patlabor221 cell: I would do it all class based, it wouldn't be that bad at all 20:06:34 Cell_prog_insect but u could have some cool effects on them 20:06:38 Patlabor221 I've seen it done rahter well 20:06:54 Patlabor221 cap: I moved the common stuff into the base class 20:07:32 Patlabor221 if you did make it all go throuhg set and get then I would make some base function that reads the standard data things, like pos, rot and scale 20:07:37 Patlabor221 no need to dupe the code 20:08:25 captain_proton 'course 20:08:30 captain_proton knows what inheritance is 20:08:43 Patlabor221 sometimes I wonder man :) 20:09:03 captain_proton snickers 20:10:13 captain_proton decides get and set are the way to go 20:10:22 Patlabor221 parts of that pannel manager were a bit odd 20:10:26 captain_proton but we need a ... form of the functions 20:10:35 Patlabor221 ??? 20:10:53 Patlabor221 onn man your gonna get all tricky and shit arn't you 20:11:26 captain_proton virtual bool setItemInfo(char *name, int type, ...); 20:11:33 blair sup 20:11:53 captain_proton foo 20:12:17 blair how you doing proton? 20:12:24 captain_proton decent 20:12:32 blair how is school? 20:12:36 blair composing? 20:12:40 captain_proton no composing 20:12:45 captain_proton chillin' to moondog 20:13:00 blair you told me to check out musicforhackers eh.. 20:13:17 blair maybe i'll check it out, but just started a jethro tull album... 20:13:31 blair moondog? 20:14:21 blair wtf 20:14:25 captain_proton you refused them? 20:14:29 blair sorry, no 20:14:32 blair got me a new xchat 20:14:42 blair it makes dirs like ~/dcc, and i dont like that 20:14:46 blair so i rm -rf ed it 20:15:28 blair that's better. 20:15:33 captain_proton much 20:15:46 blair you got some heavy bandwidth 20:16:18 blair now gotta write up some bs letters for me scholarships... 20:16:24 captain_proton heh 20:16:29 blair i should make a "bs letter maker" 20:17:05 blair bs_letter: person * scholarship -> bs_string 20:18:32 blair wtf 20:21:15 captain_proton stamping ground is my favorite of those 20:23:09 blair stamping ground? 20:23:15 blair oh... 20:23:30 blair i'll check em out, can't interrupt tull tho 20:23:43 captain_proton ah 20:24:39 captain_proton best way i can describe moondog is "a homeless guy someone accidentally let into a recording studio" 20:25:15 blair heh 20:25:19 blair um, and you listen to it? 20:25:48 captain_proton he became one of the most respected minimalist classical composers ever :) 20:26:13 blair i see. 20:26:28 blair ok, i'll turn off the tull and check it out. 20:26:51 blair right, cricket, cricket... 20:27:02 captain_proton i need to get all hisa albums and buy an LP drive :) 20:28:04 blair lp drive? i just ordered the latest squarepusher lp from warprecords.com 20:28:18 captain_proton yeah 20:28:19 blair 15 pounds translates into 37.50 or so cdn 20:28:32 captain_proton lp drive- hook to my computer 20:28:34 blair it was funny, approx 30 seconds after i did the order, i got a call from visa 20:28:59 blair they were shitting themselves: "sir, did you place an order on your visa, or have you recently given out your visa number?" 20:29:13 captain_proton 37.50 isn't a lot(?) 20:29:18 blair proton: why not just hook it to yer stereo? 20:29:28 captain_proton my computer -is- my stereo 20:29:38 blair 37.50 is a little steep for an album. 20:29:49 blair something that should probably cost 1 canadian dollar to cut 20:29:50 captain_proton mmm 20:29:58 blair and maybe 2 or 3 bucks to package... 20:30:08 blair but hey, its the squarepusher, and do you know squarepusher? 20:30:12 captain_proton nope 20:30:28 captain_proton what you think of stamping ground? 20:31:12 blair in this province the minimum wage is $8.00 an hour, i believe. 20:31:28 blair proton, i dunno wtf you find in this music. 20:31:48 blair now i'm walking around the city 20:31:53 blair some guy is preaching. 20:32:01 blair its twice upon a time! 20:32:07 captain_proton its got some cool rhythms and beats 20:32:11 blair its different, i'll give it that 20:32:15 blair this beat is fun. 20:32:21 captain_proton and interesting chord progressions 20:32:56 blair liking the horns 20:34:49 blair i'm trying to pull some more down from napster. 20:35:17 blair the kids in #blackbox piss me off. 20:35:32 blair i go in there, ask a question, and get kicked with a message to the tune of: 20:35:55 blair "if ya don't like it, then cancel your contract, and we'll give you back all the money you've sent us" 20:35:56 captain_proton if you do find more on napster send it to me :) 20:36:09 blair i've got a lullaby 20:36:46 blair kind of an eastern lullaby... 20:37:15 blair proton, ever use CVS_RSH=ssh? 20:37:22 blair like secure connection to yer cvs? 20:37:35 captain_proton use that for sourceforge 20:38:02 blair i wonder, will it pick up variables from my /etc/profile on the server? 20:38:10 blair it doesn't seem to from remote... 20:38:21 blair i dunno how to get a dump of the vars tho... 20:38:29 captain_proton it will if sshd is configured to UseLogin 20:38:35 blair kinda iffy on exactly what goes on behind the scenes 20:38:49 blair proton: /etc/ssh/sshd_config? 20:39:27 blair let me try... 20:39:41 blair ever tried plan9? 20:39:47 captain_proton once 20:39:52 captain_proton the threading libs rock my world 20:39:55 captain_proton but the interface sucks 20:40:08 blair and that is what it is all about. 20:40:10 blair interface. 20:41:14 blair check that out 20:41:46 captain_proton i'm thinking that next semester i need to have my cello professor help me put together an ensemble to play some of this 20:44:18 captain_proton hmm, sounds interesting 20:45:17 blair no prot, UseLogin didn't seem to work :( 20:45:49 blair i wonder if there is a way to get a dump of the environment before the checkin/import? 20:46:27 captain_proton 2. LULLABY 2:13 20:46:27 captain_proton (sextet; featuring Moondog?s wife, Suzuko, singing to June, their six-week-old daugther) 3/4 20:47:25 blair um, how did you get the description? 20:47:33 captain_proton http://www.moondogscorner.de/disco/framdisc.htm 20:48:13 captain_proton from the 1956 'Moondog' 20:49:15 blair did i send you prefuse73? 20:49:21 captain_proton at some point 20:49:28 captain_proton don't think i've thought to listen to it yet 20:50:17 blair well you would do well to. 21:08:17 captain_proton found any more? <grin> 21:19:50 jzaun Hi bzgirl 21:19:54 jzaun long time no see 21:22:20 captain_proton ponders an xml-based bze file format for grouping 21:22:45 jzaun bzee :-) 21:22:55 jzaun your on the Enhanced version now :-) 21:23:22 sussudio jzaun: can you put on map 40? 21:23:54 jzaun sussudio, possibly, is anyone on jzaun.com now? 21:24:01 bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 21:24:01 sussudio ibot jzaun 21:24:30 sussudio it was originally map 39, but i changed something and didnt see an option to reupload the map in the map menu, so i deleted it and re-added and it became 40 21:24:46 jzaun yah, you have to do it that wya for now 21:24:57 jzaun no way to re-uplode the map itself 21:25:02 sussudio k 21:25:07 sussudio nobody's on 21:25:26 jzaun Title: Noukie's Purr is up 21:25:29 sussudio k 21:47:06 captain_proton grrr 21:47:12 captain_proton as a lowly music undergrad i can't check out recordings 21:47:29 captain_proton i have to pay them and sign stuff to have them make a copy 21:50:52 captain_proton what crap 21:51:04 scanline is away: dinnertime 21:58:54 captain_proton oh well, in a week i should have the 'moondog' album on cd 21:58:55 captain_proton :) 22:01:30 Scot Hey guys...long time no see...I used to play bzflags a lot about a year ago 22:02:12 Scot i'd play a lot now cept I don't have broadband anymore 22:03:45 captain_proton bzflag is playable on 56k 22:05:26 Scot yea but not AS playable ;) 22:05:42 Scot You and Chestal are the only names I recognize here... 22:08:02 captain_proton is out 22:08:29 [dmp] Scot: I'm new.. so i act as rabbit most of the time :) 22:08:43 bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 22:08:43 sussudio ibot jzaun 22:10:00 sussudio hmm 9 people on there 22:10:04 sussudio reconnects with isdn 22:20:01 scanline is back (gone 00:28:57) 22:20:36 scanline is away: hiding from all the people that want to talk to him in #picogui 22:25:09 scanline is back (gone 00:04:33) 22:27:27 Aldebaran I wonder if someone could do me a favor and go to turkey.moongroup.com and try to get on the roof of a building with e6? 22:30:56 Aldebaran hello ibot 22:31:06 bzgirl what building? 22:31:19 bzgirl any building? 22:31:20 Aldebaran the building that is two floors and has four exits 22:31:30 bzgirl oh 22:31:33 bzgirl that one 22:31:43 Aldebaran there is a platform to the rear of it and form there with e6, I can jump to the roof 22:31:46 bzgirl thats where the gm's like to go 22:31:48 Aldebaran but explain to kernal panic 22:31:54 Aldebaran what you are trying to do, 22:32:13 Aldebaran he saw me do it and banned me because he thought a tank can't jump form the platrom to the roof 22:32:17 Aldebaran but with e6 you can 22:32:37 bzgirl i will try later, gotta go for a sec though 22:32:45 Aldebaran ok thanks 23:02:40 Scot BZFlag: hiya....anither person I recognize 23:03:15 Scot BZFlag: you proly don't remember me, I used to play a a whole lot 23:03:18 Scot Behomet 23:03:22 Scot that was my my nick 23:04:35 sussudio gesundheit 23:08:30 doughecka hey, captain_proton here? 23:08:35 captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 1 hours, 33 seconds ago, saying: is out [Sun Sep 22 23:08:02 2002] 23:08:35 doughecka ibot seen captain_proton 23:08:39 doughecka oh 23:23:43 BZFlag Scot: I seem to recall, yeah. where you been? ;-) 23:25:24 Scot BZFlag: lost bandwidth...on 56k (and yeah I know it works, but it sucks) so I had to give it up... ;..( 23:25:43 Scot BZFlag: you never sawe me here, just in game 23:32:34 BZFlag right. you on better bandwidth now? 23:32:40 Scot No 23:32:47 Scot I used to have cable modem 23:33:06 Scot though I DO have cable modem at work and am thinking of putting up another server on my firewall 23:33:22 Scot then I could dial in directly to the firewall and play with some folks there 23:33:31 Scot but I never got the hang of making nice servers 23:34:40 Scot I mean nice bzflag servers 23:39:28 doughecka check out my `100 shot 4000 user server!!! 23:39:33 doughecka nall hosted on DSL! 23:39:36 doughecka :_P 23:40:29 sussudio doug's lag-o-thon? 23:45:21 doughecka yup yup yup 23:45:39 doughecka its going up on jzauns website now 23:47:31 doughecka wooyoo! 23:47:34 doughecka jzaun!! 23:47:37 doughecka you there? 23:47:41 jzaun was last seen on #bzflag 2 hours, 22 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: Title: Noukie's Purr is up [Sun Sep 22 22:25:26 2002] 23:47:41 doughecka ibot seen jzaun 23:48:10 doughecka jzaun: if you get time, could you load my new map? its called LaserCTF 23:48:16 doughecka is away: busy! 23:50:12 sussudio stats.bzflag.org/map.php..... tell the ID number 23:52:16 doughecka oh? 23:52:18 doughecka k 23:52:32 doughecka nope 23:52:34 doughecka not there 23:52:45 sussudio well upload it then 23:52:46 doughecka http://stats.bzflag.org/map.php? 23:52:58 sussudio err maps 23:53:04 doughecka k 23:53:27 doughecka ok 23:53:40 doughecka ID is 41 23:54:06 doughecka its a rather booring map, designed for people who shoot shoot shoot 23:54:13 doughecka but it really needs to be 1 shot 23:54:20 doughecka but who cares 23:54:46 sussudio you can specify number of shots 23:54:50 doughecka yea 23:54:55 doughecka but I am too lazy to change it 23:55:00 doughecka wonders away 23:55:07 doughecka is away: mooooovie Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! 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`00:00:02`		`bob dole is nothing but a tofu-nibbling quart of hacked-up Stimpy-drool.`
`00:00:02`	`lurgyman`	`ibot: insult bob dole`
`00:09:05`		`lurgyman is nothing but a milk-livered bucket of festering yoo-hoo.`
`00:09:05`	`sussudio`	`ibot insult lurgyman`
`00:24:50`	`lurgyman`	`not yoohoo. you will pay for this, sussudio. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, and maybe even not next week,`
`00:24:56`	`lurgyman`	`but soon, and for the rest of your life`
`00:25:11`	`lurgyman`	`here's looking at goo, kid`
`00:25:41`		`sussudio: i'm not following you...`
`00:25:41`	`sussudio`	`ibot poop on lurgyman`
`00:33:11`		`april lavigne is nothing but a dankish ass-full of hacked-up squirrel guts.`
`00:33:11`	`sussudio`	`ibot insult april lavigne`
`00:33:23`	`doughecka`	`yuk`
`01:31:42`	`Widget`	`What's with everyone getting up so early?`
`01:39:13`	`paul`	`out of hours`
`01:39:29`	`Widget`	`It must be to follow the German elections!`
`01:45:11`	`paul`	`you seem to /always/ be on irc widget.. never sleep?`
`01:45:14`	`Patlabor221`	`hey it's just 8 here`
`01:45:32`	`paul`	`Patlabor221: you're in NZ too?`
`01:49:21`	`Patlabor221`	`nope`
`01:49:39`	`Patlabor221`	`widget is in the future from me`
`01:49:46`	`Patlabor221`	`Widget: how is tomrow?`
`01:50:14`	`Widget`	`Patlabor221: Ask paul.`
`01:50:45`	`paul`	`Widget: how come i dont get a reply from you if i ctcp time you?`
`01:51:01`	`Widget`	`Um.. I don't know. I'm not running this on my own computer.`
`01:51:08`	`Widget`	`I guess my friend did something.`
`01:51:13`	`Patlabor221`	`widget are you tellneting again?`
`01:52:02`	`Widget`	`Patlabor221: I have to.. IRC is blocked here. :(`
`01:52:27`	`Patlabor221`	`who blocks it?`
`01:52:39`	`Patlabor221`	`and where are you?`
`01:53:14`	`Widget`	`Home.... my dad thinks IRC is a security risk.`
`01:53:27`	`Patlabor221`	`so proxy it`
`01:53:33`	`Widget`	`How do you do that?`
`01:53:51`	`Patlabor221`	`find a public proxy`
`01:53:58`	`Patlabor221`	`and tell the IRC app to use it`
`01:54:08`	`Patlabor221`	`is port 1080 open for you?`
`01:54:11`	`Widget`	`What does that do?`
`01:54:26`	`Patlabor221`	`it routs the request through another machine`
`01:54:30`	`paul`	`Patlabor221: if you find a public proxy let me know..`
`01:54:43`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh just do a search on google there are lists`
`01:54:49`	`Patlabor221`	`use them all the time at work`