| 00:02:37 | scanline | patlabor221: nice! |
| 00:03:04 | scanline | It still isn't really a ray caster though... |
| 00:03:36 | patlabor221 | it casts rays |
| 00:03:57 | patlabor221 | even got a function trMapItem* CGridWorld::CastRay ( tCastItem *pRay ) |
| 00:04:14 | scanline | is that MFC code? |
| 00:04:16 | patlabor221 | no one said ray casters had to use the rays for rendering :) |
| 00:04:19 | patlabor221 | no |
| 00:04:22 | patlabor221 | it's my code |
| 00:04:41 | patlabor221 | I just use a subset of the hngariona notation |
| 00:04:45 | scanline | ah |
| 00:04:52 | patlabor221 | not all the icky stuff |
| 00:04:58 | patlabor221 | just little simple stuff |
| 00:06:05 | patlabor221 | if I did this in MFC it would be slower then crap |
| 00:06:14 | patlabor221 | it's a pain to get a message pump going in there |
| 00:07:49 | scanline | not to mention that you already have SDL doing all the GUI stuff for you :) |
| 00:08:03 | patlabor221 | just window creation |
| 00:08:10 | scanline | and input? |
| 00:08:15 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:08:21 | patlabor221 | need to wrap that up tho |
| 00:08:42 | patlabor221 | I have anther verison of my lib that dosn't use SDL, and that one will work with MFC |
| 00:08:59 | patlabor221 | it can atach it's GL window to the MFC windows |
| 00:09:07 | scanline | why use MFC? |
| 00:09:08 | patlabor221 | that's what I used in windows BZedit |
| 00:09:09 | scanline | SDL is good |
| 00:09:18 | patlabor221 | for the game yah |
| 00:09:22 | patlabor221 | but for like an editor |
| 00:09:37 | patlabor221 | or a prototype |
| 00:09:42 | patlabor221 | MFC makes it fast |
| 00:10:13 | scanline | complete lack of portability though... |
| 00:10:15 | patlabor221 | I didn't think SDL had stuff like dialog handalers and stuff |
| 00:10:21 | scanline | try something like wxWindows |
| 00:10:25 | patlabor221 | yeah well for protos it works |
| 00:11:05 | patlabor221 | I used to not give a crap about other OSs |
| 00:11:09 | patlabor221 | now I do |
| 00:11:19 | patlabor221 | that's why I make the SDL versions of the libs |
| 00:11:35 | patlabor221 | sound is now using something that's cross plat too |
| 00:12:03 | patlabor221 | I'll have to look at that wx windows stuff |
| 00:12:04 | scanline | but if you wrote the editors and such with wxwindows or gtk they would be cross-platform without hardly any extra work |
| 00:12:22 | patlabor221 | yeah I wanted to redo the thing so it didn't use MFC |
| 00:12:32 | patlabor221 | at the time I made I didn't have a linux system |
| 00:12:35 | scanline | I haven't used wxwindows but I've heard it's pretty good.. it's a cross platform class library for GUI and OS stuff... similar to MFC, but works on linux, mac, and others |
| 00:12:43 | patlabor221 | and I made that sucker in one day |
| 00:13:16 | patlabor221 | only think I wory about is what do they use for dialog layout tools |
| 00:13:30 | scanline | dialog layout tools? |
| 00:13:41 | patlabor221 | yeah to lay out the items in complex dialogs |
| 00:13:52 | scanline | I'm sure there are classes for that |
| 00:13:57 | scanline | I haven't looked at how it handles layout |
| 00:13:59 | patlabor221 | ick in code |
| 00:14:05 | patlabor221 | how ugly |
| 00:14:08 | scanline | how else would you do it, graphically? |
| 00:14:09 | scanline | eww |
| 00:14:14 | patlabor221 | in VC there is a resource editor |
| 00:14:16 | patlabor221 | yeah graphicly |
| 00:14:22 | scanline | I can't stand most graphical dialog editors |
| 00:14:26 | patlabor221 | layout and test the thing |
| 00:14:43 | patlabor221 | try doing a dialog with a huge number of items |
| 00:14:48 | scanline | when you lay out a dialog in one of those things, it hardcodes the coordinates for each widget.. no resizability, if you don't like how it looks, tough |
| 00:14:57 | patlabor221 | not on windows |
| 00:14:58 | scanline | if you define the dialog's layout in code, it can be very flexible |
| 00:15:00 | patlabor221 | it dosn't make code |
| 00:15:12 | patlabor221 | it just sets the defalut state |
| 00:15:13 | scanline | I didn't say it generates source code, I know how windows resources work |
| 00:15:24 | patlabor221 | hell even windows can resize them for difrent langs |
| 00:15:36 | scanline | that's just because they're sized based on font metrics |
| 00:15:42 | patlabor221 | for simple stuff it's tedious to hit every item |
| 00:15:46 | patlabor221 | in code |
| 00:15:54 | patlabor221 | lots of trial and error |
| 00:15:55 | scanline | only if the GUI makes it tedious |
| 00:16:13 | patlabor221 | well with code way, there is no giu |
| 00:16:23 | scanline | hmm? |
| 00:16:39 | scanline | here's what I'm talking about... |
| 00:16:40 | patlabor221 | if you define everything in code then you can't see it before you code it |
| 00:16:53 | patlabor221 | unless you spend a lot of time in an image editor |
| 00:16:58 | scanline | ha |
| 00:17:13 | patlabor221 | geting all the coords |
| 00:17:22 | scanline | in any GUI with a proper layout engine, you don't specify coordinates for things in code... |
| 00:17:39 | patlabor221 | how does it know where to put it then? |
| 00:17:44 | scanline | it's something like: "put this toolbar at the bottom of the dialog, put these buttons in the toolbar, add a list in the remaining space" |
| 00:17:57 | scanline | IMHO much easier and WAY more flexible than graphical dialog editors |
| 00:17:59 | patlabor221 | hmmm I'll have to play with it |
| 00:18:15 | scanline | a lot of GUIs do it that way... Qt, Gtk, PicoGUI, Tk, Swing, AWT.... |
| 00:18:17 | patlabor221 | it's DLing now |
| 00:18:25 | scanline | I dunno what wxWindows uses |
| 00:18:31 | scanline | hopefully it has a good layout engine |
| 00:18:35 | patlabor221 | well I shall see then :) |
| 00:18:44 | scanline | Specifying coordinates for GUI items is just one of my pet peeves.... |
| 00:18:47 | patlabor221 | Tk sounds very familiar |
| 00:18:56 | scanline | it ties your GUI to one resolution/layout |
| 00:19:27 | patlabor221 | dialogs shouldn't change size with res |
| 00:19:38 | scanline | why not? |
| 00:19:54 | patlabor221 | what's the point of going to a higher res then? |
| 00:19:56 | scanline | if you're running a program on a 160x160 handheld, should the dialog be exactly the same as if you're running on a desktop in 1600x1200? |
| 00:20:02 | patlabor221 | that no |
| 00:20:11 | scanline | resolution should be resolution, not the size of things on the screen |
| 00:20:29 | scanline | if you increase resolution, you should get higher quality rendering, not necessarily a different size for GUI elements |
| 00:20:42 | patlabor221 | I increase my res so I get more space to put stuff |
| 00:20:48 | patlabor221 | not for better pictures |
| 00:20:57 | scanline | that's IMHO the wrong mentality |
| 00:21:07 | scanline | you should be able to define how much space you get independently from the resolution |
| 00:21:14 | patlabor221 | that would be nice |
| 00:21:14 | scanline | that's one thing the Fresco project is big on |
| 00:21:48 | patlabor221 | but unless EVERYthing follows the rule then it's kinda moot |
| 00:22:00 | scanline | but that's what Fresco does.. everything follows the rule |
| 00:22:06 | patlabor221 | then that's a good thing |
| 00:22:12 | patlabor221 | right now not everything does that |
| 00:22:44 | patlabor221 | right now I have to live with what I got :) |
| 00:23:07 | patlabor221 | or at least with what the people pay me money to use |
| 00:23:08 | scanline | yeah.. but a GUI with a real layout engine is far closer to that goal than specifying coordinates |
| 00:23:13 | patlabor221 | true |
| 00:23:27 | scanline | and for actually reaching that goal, we have projects like Fresco and PicoGUI :) |
| 00:23:40 | patlabor221 | I wish it was easy to redo legacy stuff in nice new techology tho |
| 00:23:51 | patlabor221 | that's gonna be the big thing for mainstream stuff |
| 00:24:17 | patlabor221 | we would love to redo our app in something nice that would allow us cross platform and all sorts of new thing |
| 00:24:31 | scanline | well, that's one problem with totally redoing the GUI... you don't have any compatibility with existing apps |
| 00:24:35 | patlabor221 | but we can't take the 8 to 12 monts to do that |
| 00:24:40 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:24:52 | scanline | but it's something that needs to be done, or we'll be stuck with this outdated GUI technology forever |
| 00:24:54 | patlabor221 | hell thats why all our resources are still mac based |
| 00:25:07 | patlabor221 | it's all about the money |
| 00:25:19 | patlabor221 | if people will pay for it then the comercal devs will do it |
| 00:26:06 | patlabor221 | open source is a nice idea and all but I don't think that it will ever replace dedicated comercal software |
| 00:26:36 | scanline | you'd be amazed at what people will do for free |
| 00:26:44 | patlabor221 | I am |
| 00:27:00 | patlabor221 | but you will be amased at what people will do for money |
| 00:27:06 | patlabor221 | and how fast they do it for money |
| 00:27:14 | scanline | One of the big problems with commercial software is that it only goes where there's money, and a lot of the things that should be done just aren't profitable |
| 00:27:22 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:27:33 | patlabor221 | and that's waht I like about Open source stuff |
| 00:27:44 | patlabor221 | but like I don't see anyone making an open source cad/cam system |
| 00:27:49 | scanline | that's why all the really cool new technology is either open source or for research |
| 00:28:15 | patlabor221 | yeah then it gets made usable in comercal apps |
| 00:28:33 | scanline | patlabor221: I'd bet it will happen eventually. There are a lot of things in development that I wasn't expecting to come out of open source, just because it's not the type of thing that hackers usually like to code on.. stuff like enterprise payroll software |
| 00:29:01 | scanline | there are different definitions of usable for different people... |
| 00:29:06 | patlabor221 | well if it all goes opensource then I need to find a new line of work |
| 00:29:10 | patlabor221 | so I can pay the bills |
| 00:29:21 | patlabor221 | that there are |
| 00:29:22 | scanline | generally open source programmers make what they want, and companies do what users want, usually something completely different |
| 00:29:37 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:29:44 | patlabor221 | out customers want to not have to think |
| 00:29:53 | patlabor221 | that's why we make our software |
| 00:30:00 | patlabor221 | and it hellps them a lot |
| 00:30:07 | patlabor221 | cus they are damned idiots :) |
| 00:30:08 | scanline | I really don't care whether commercial software succeeds, I'll find some way to make money. I can't stand the way commercial software development works now that I've been doing open source development |
| 00:30:23 | patlabor221 | shit I had to help people at JPL send e-mail |
| 00:30:30 | scanline | the free flow of information makes all the difference |
| 00:31:00 | patlabor221 | well that viral GPL liscense is what stops a lot of us from using Open source stuff |
| 00:31:19 | scanline | I like the GPL |
| 00:31:20 | patlabor221 | we opend up some of our stuff for an Open CNC type of thing |
| 00:31:29 | patlabor221 | we could never use it |
| 00:31:38 | scanline | there are other open source licenses |
| 00:31:42 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:31:48 | patlabor221 | and we do use those |
| 00:31:58 | scanline | but for most projects, the GPL makes a lot of sense.. you don't want companies using your code if they're not going to give anything back to the community |
| 00:32:16 | patlabor221 | yeah we don't want to give our competitors our edge |
| 00:32:26 | patlabor221 | we got some stuff that they can't even do right |
| 00:32:33 | patlabor221 | and we are cheaper then them by like 1.2 |
| 00:32:35 | patlabor221 | 1/2 |
| 00:32:38 | scanline | I really couldn't care less whether companies make money off of picogui.. there are companies using it, and I assume they're making money off my code. All I care about is that there's an active community |
| 00:33:02 | patlabor221 | yeah there is no need to be greedy |
| 00:33:35 | patlabor221 | the problem I see with a lot of opensource projects is lack of direction |
| 00:33:43 | patlabor221 | and they all just turn into a jumble of features |
| 00:33:50 | patlabor221 | not a consise "thing" |
| 00:34:12 | patlabor221 | looks like PicoGUI is nice and focused |
| 00:34:21 | scanline | eh, not as focused as it could be |
| 00:34:26 | patlabor221 | and I think that's what makes projects sucsessfull |
| 00:34:33 | patlabor221 | well more focused then say BZfalg |
| 00:34:37 | scanline | when you're your own boss, it's easy to get distracted and add what's fun :) |
| 00:34:48 | patlabor221 | that's a difrent kind of focus |
| 00:35:00 | patlabor221 | I am talking about the final vision of the project |
| 00:35:07 | scanline | nods |
| 00:35:09 | patlabor221 | you have to have a well defined goal |
| 00:35:13 | scanline | it's definitely important to have a clear vision |
| 00:35:15 | scanline | yeah |
| 00:35:21 | patlabor221 | not just a bunch of people adding what they want |
| 00:35:49 | patlabor221 | well time to go get paied for making crap windows software |
| 00:35:55 | patlabor221 | :) |
| 00:36:02 | patlabor221 | BBL |
| 00:36:04 | scanline | Seems like projects that start as the vision and craft of one person and then get more contributors are a lot more focused than ones that try to design by committee :) |
| 00:36:17 | scanline | will bbl too |
| 00:54:58 | mandy | hihihi |
| 01:02:49 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 01:03:35 | mandy | hi pat |
| 01:03:48 | Patlabor221 | how goes it? |
| 01:04:10 | mandy | better than before |
| 01:04:23 | mandy | got a couple bruises |
| 01:04:29 | mandy | but i'll be ok |
| 01:04:43 | mandy | and you? |
| 01:04:44 | Patlabor221 | did you use the roll of nickles? |
| 01:04:48 | mandy | nah |
| 01:05:09 | Patlabor221 | just went old school then |
| 01:05:22 | mandy | yep yep |
| 01:08:59 | Patlabor221 | but did you have to use the can of whupass? |
| 01:09:29 | mandy | lol |
| 01:09:31 | mandy | nah |
| 01:10:04 | captain_proton | ya know what is a can of whupass? |
| 01:10:16 | captain_proton | the layout abilities of bzedit |
| 01:10:45 | mandy | lol |
| 01:11:43 | Patlabor221 | but can it do this |
| 01:11:48 | Patlabor221 | dances |
| 01:11:48 | Nicole | hello! |
| 01:11:52 | mandy | hi nicole |
| 01:11:57 | mandy | ? |
| 01:11:58 | Patlabor221 | nihow |
| 01:12:00 | Nicole | hey people |
| 01:12:02 | mandy | pat ur crazy |
| 01:12:11 | Patlabor221 | like a fox :) |
| 01:12:23 | mandy | lol |
| 01:12:31 | captain_proton | snickers |
| 01:12:33 | captain_proton | he's infected! |
| 01:12:46 | mandy | i need some ice brb |
| 01:12:47 | Patlabor221 | dude I invented it |
| 01:13:36 | Patlabor221 | hmmm do I want to lose DSL for 3 weeks then get new DSL for $150 a more a month for 128k more upstream? |
| 01:13:49 | Patlabor221 | 256 up would be nice |
| 01:13:53 | lurgyman | invented like a fox? like a fox |
| 01:14:06 | Patlabor221 | I inveented it all |
| 01:15:03 | mandy | alrighty i'm back |
| 01:15:28 | lurgyman | *cough* homer simpson *cough* |
| 01:15:38 | lurgyman | and i quote: |
| 01:16:04 | lurgyman | 15"Stupid 11like a fox!15" |
| 01:16:30 | Nicole | ooo homer is awesome! |
| 01:16:31 | Patlabor221 | the fact that you know this fills me with fear and dread. |
| 01:16:46 | mandy | hmm |
| 01:17:03 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i have to live with him |
| 01:17:16 | Patlabor221 | I am sorry |
| 01:17:42 | Nicole | lurgyman: simpsons fanatic? |
| 01:18:30 | captain_proton | nope |
| 01:18:41 | captain_proton | he's just strange |
| 01:18:42 | Patlabor221 | homer incarnate? |
| 01:18:46 | captain_proton | in the british sense |
| 01:18:52 | Nicole | don't diss homer |
| 01:18:58 | Patlabor221 | I wasn't |
| 01:19:01 | Nicole | kk |
| 01:19:04 | Nicole | just don't ;-) |
| 01:19:06 | Patlabor221 | that could be a good thing :) |
| 01:19:19 | Patlabor221 | I happen to like the simpsons as well |
| 01:19:24 | Nicole | homer is awesome, but bart is better! |
| 01:19:44 | Patlabor221 | actualy it's all about bender :) |
| 01:19:54 | Nicole | DOOD! |
| 01:20:01 | Nicole | BENDER IS AWESOME! |
| 01:20:13 | Patlabor221 | hachee en mexico |
| 01:20:23 | captain_proton | mutters something |
| 01:20:33 | Patlabor221 | beats it outa him |
| 01:21:39 | Patlabor221 | cap did you see my fearsome GL raycaster? |
| 01:21:48 | mandy | sits back |
| 01:22:00 | Patlabor221 | or I shuld say psudocaster so scanline will not get mad |
| 01:22:03 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah, thats cool |
| 01:22:23 | scanline | Patlabor221: you need a new name for this type of engine... |
| 01:22:44 | Patlabor221 | I can't think of one |
| 01:22:49 | scanline | Patlabor221: something cool sounding, like "meta-raycasting technology" |
| 01:22:54 | Patlabor221 | metacaster |
| 01:23:02 | Patlabor221 | omincaster |
| 01:23:06 | captain_proton | metacaster |
| 01:23:07 | Patlabor221 | megacaster |
| 01:23:07 | scanline | iCaster |
| 01:23:07 | captain_proton | all the way |
| 01:23:17 | Patlabor221 | ubercaster |
| 01:23:22 | scanline | superSpiffyHappyCaster |
| 01:23:32 | Patlabor221 | Mr. HappyCaster |
| 01:23:36 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:24:02 | Patlabor221 | "now with HappyCaster techonogy (tm) " |
| 01:24:24 | scanline | e-Caster Deluxe |
| 01:24:25 | Patlabor221 | I don't see how it's meta tho |
| 01:24:40 | Patlabor221 | it casts less then a normal ray caster |
| 01:24:41 | scanline | visCaster |
| 01:24:51 | captain_proton | because its not raycasting light, its raycasting...something |
| 01:25:09 | scanline | it's raycasting the metaphysical essence or your map! |
| 01:25:16 | Patlabor221 | hence psudocaster |
| 01:25:27 | scanline | pseudocaster |
| 01:25:36 | captain_proton | metacaster sounds sexier |
| 01:25:42 | scanline | nods |
| 01:25:54 | scanline | captain_proton: heard of PTypes? |
| 01:26:01 | Patlabor221 | true but it should mean someting |
| 01:26:03 | captain_proton | nope |
| 01:26:17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: since when? |
| 01:26:20 | scanline | http://www.melikyan.com/ptypes/index.html |
| 01:26:32 | Patlabor221 | 2.5 min ago |
| 01:26:33 | doughecka | is back |
| 01:26:45 | Patlabor221 | portacaster |
| 01:27:01 | scanline | Patlabor221: that implies portability ;) |
| 01:27:10 | doughecka | has a new mobo, and 2 600 mhz slot 1 cellys |
| 01:27:12 | Patlabor221 | it is |
| 01:27:16 | Patlabor221 | even work on leenux |
| 01:27:22 | Patlabor221 | made sure it was |
| 01:27:30 | scanline | Patlabor221: got source code in CVS somewhere? |
| 01:27:33 | scanline | wants to try |
| 01:27:39 | Patlabor221 | I got a zip disk :) |
| 01:27:45 | scanline | haha |
| 01:27:57 | scanline | just throw it really hard, toward colorado |
| 01:27:58 | Patlabor221 | you'll need the libs that cap has for jetstream |
| 01:28:03 | captain_proton | scanline: you'd be afraid of soemthing a friend of mine is writing |
| 01:28:14 | Patlabor221 | no I shall use the thing called the 'INTERNET" |
| 01:28:19 | scanline | captain_proton: probably... |
| 01:28:24 | scanline | Patlabor221: the interweb? |
| 01:28:27 | doughecka | Patlabor221: gee, whats that? |
| 01:28:28 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:28:30 | captain_proton | (10:58:12) davidtrowbridge1: event filters? GLX? Xerces? i'm scared |
| 01:28:30 | captain_proton | (16:34:56) BlackIrisDancer: You really want to know what it is? :-P |
| 01:28:30 | captain_proton | (16:36:26) davidtrowbridge1: yeah |
| 01:28:30 | captain_proton | (16:36:58) BlackIrisDancer: It's a more-or-less completely modular, dynamic XML-based application builder. |
| 01:28:30 | captain_proton | (16:40:38) BlackIrisDancer: <Application> |
| 01:28:30 | captain_proton | <EventFilter> |
| 01:28:33 | captain_proton | <Canvas x="40" y="70" width="100" height="200"> |
| 01:28:34 | captain_proton | <text x="0" y="0"><sysinfo string="glExtensions"/></text> |
| 01:28:36 | captain_proton | </Canvas> |
| 01:28:38 | captain_proton | </EventFilter> |
| 01:28:40 | captain_proton | </Application> |
| 01:28:42 | captain_proton | (16:40:47) BlackIrisDancer: Doesn't quite work, but is close to doing so. |
| 01:28:44 | captain_proton | (16:44:06) BlackIrisDancer: (Canvases, for added fun, can either be root-level, or stacked. They do something reasonable in either case, opening a Window at the root level, and setting glViewport when stacked...) |
| 01:28:48 | captain_proton | (16:48:37) BlackIrisDancer: You're sorry you asked, aren't you? :-P |
| 01:29:09 | scanline | captain_proton: I've seen better |
| 01:29:28 | scanline | captain_proton: there's an already working XML-based application framework.. open source, I forgot what it's called |
| 01:29:43 | scanline | captain_proton: and even scarier, we might have something similar for picogui eventually :) |
| 01:31:22 | lurgyman | but i'm a rageaholic! i need my rageahol! |
| 01:32:20 | captain_proton | begins working on his preferences dialog |
| 01:32:31 | scanline | captain_proton: bzedit? |
| 01:32:53 | Patlabor221 | well I don't think that there are prefs just for him |
| 01:33:01 | Patlabor221 | and where would he put it? |
| 01:33:19 | captain_proton | haha |
| 01:33:21 | Patlabor221 | ok I made a zip |
| 01:33:28 | Patlabor221 | I don' |
| 01:33:33 | scanline | Patlabor221: of the tar.g flavor? |
| 01:33:35 | Patlabor221 | I don't have the lin make file here |
| 01:33:40 | Patlabor221 | of the ZIP flavor |
| 01:33:45 | Patlabor221 | I don't have lin at this job |
| 01:34:00 | captain_proton | METACA~1.ZIp |
| 01:34:01 | Patlabor221 | so I don't have the makefile here |
| 01:34:21 | scanline | is it open source? |
| 01:34:23 | Patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/code/casterzip.zip |
| 01:34:25 | scanline | or free software? |
| 01:34:33 | captain_proton | scanline: open source, $30 |
| 01:34:37 | captain_proton | i'll take payment |
| 01:34:37 | Patlabor221 | I just made it like this week |
| 01:34:38 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:34:54 | Patlabor221 | cap has the libs that are used |
| 01:35:14 | Patlabor221 | I didn't test my latest changes on lin, but they should be ok |
| 01:35:22 | Patlabor221 | nothing os specific |
| 01:36:02 | scanline | heh.. I thought this was supposed to be C++ code... |
| 01:36:13 | Patlabor221 | it is |
| 01:36:27 | Patlabor221 | just crapy C++ code |
| 01:36:38 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:36:58 | Patlabor221 | I wasn't so concerned about the app part as I am about the world class |
| 01:37:06 | scanline | thinks there should be different names for plain C code, C++ code that should be C code, object oriented C code, and object oriented C++ code |
| 01:37:26 | Patlabor221 | so I don't use streams |
| 01:37:44 | scanline | I'm just giving you a hard time because I looked in glCaster.cpp and everything's global |
| 01:37:45 | Patlabor221 | hate debuging them |
| 01:37:49 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:37:53 | Patlabor221 | that is the crap file |
| 01:38:03 | Patlabor221 | I need a game class |
| 01:38:29 | Patlabor221 | that's called from the main loop |
| 01:39:18 | Patlabor221 | everything else is wraped up |
| 01:39:22 | scanline | nods |
| 01:39:29 | scanline | like I said, just giving you a hard time ;) |
| 01:40:03 | Patlabor221 | and I even made the texture manager use unix type file names as a standard :) even on windows :) |
| 01:40:15 | Patlabor221 | need to do that for the map class tho |
| 01:40:18 | captain_proton | thats cause i bugged you into doing it ;) |
| 01:40:27 | scanline | I should write some C++ code... |
| 01:40:29 | Patlabor221 | that was part of it |
| 01:40:39 | Patlabor221 | but now I try to do it for all the things |
| 01:40:43 | Patlabor221 | since it makes sense |
| 01:41:57 | Patlabor221 | ugg why are EBAYs CGI servers so picky |
| 01:42:09 | doughecka | ? |
| 01:42:36 | Patlabor221 | they redirect all over the place |
| 01:42:47 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:42:47 | Patlabor221 | for load balancing |
| 01:43:15 | Patlabor221 | but the only one that actualy does the redirecting is cgi1.ebay.com |
| 01:43:21 | Patlabor221 | none of the other will redirect |
| 01:43:25 | Patlabor221 | they just crap out |
| 01:44:13 | Patlabor221 | and since I'm not using an actual browser to get the pages,it's a pain. |
| 01:44:32 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:46:04 | mandy | ok bye peoples |
| 01:46:09 | Patlabor221 | bye |
| 01:53:30 | Patlabor221 | did it work on the leenox? |
| 01:53:41 | Patlabor221 | with my ganked textures |
| 01:57:00 | Patlabor221 | hmm there seeems to be some issues at long view distnaces |
| 01:57:29 | Patlabor221 | proalbly the min deviation hack. |
| 02:00:58 | captain_proton | yay for bushy cvs checkouts |
| 02:01:12 | Patlabor221 | bushy? |
| 02:01:13 | captain_proton | cvs -d :pserver:anomynymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag .... |
| 02:01:41 | Patlabor221 | I still don't get it? |
| 02:01:45 | captain_proton | sound it out |
| 02:01:45 | Patlabor221 | you mean get all of it? |
| 02:02:38 | Patlabor221 | is easaly confused |
| 02:03:10 | captain_proton | anomynymous |
| 02:04:44 | Patlabor221 | I think I'll set up some type of CVS server when I get the new leenox machine |
| 02:05:53 | captain_proton | ooh, install subversion |
| 02:06:05 | Patlabor221 | quen es? |
| 02:06:16 | captain_proton | http://subversion.tigris.org/ |
| 02:06:56 | Patlabor221 | ha it's a VCS that hosts itself |
| 02:07:01 | Patlabor221 | that's rather cool |
| 02:07:17 | Patlabor221 | I just find stuff like that funny |
| 02:07:27 | Patlabor221 | like when I burn a copy of buring software |
| 02:07:47 | captain_proton | or gcc compiling itself so that it can compile itself? |
| 02:07:52 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:08:05 | Patlabor221 | doctor heal thyself |
| 02:08:16 | lurgyman | no |
| 02:08:19 | lurgyman | engineer fix thyself |
| 02:08:23 | Patlabor221 | YES DAMIT |
| 02:08:31 | Patlabor221 | or no pudding tonight |
| 02:08:40 | lurgyman | but only using a screwdriver and wrench |
| 02:08:52 | Patlabor221 | what ever you are comfortable with |
| 02:09:13 | lurgyman | next step: robots that reprogram themselves |
| 02:09:20 | lurgyman | and go around doing chores differently |
| 02:09:25 | Patlabor221 | I have legos that do that |
| 02:09:32 | lurgyman | yes you do |
| 02:22:36 | doughecka | pff |
| 02:22:52 | doughecka | he gave me 2 300 cellys |
| 02:23:01 | doughecka | oh well... |
| 02:23:05 | doughecka | is away: buusy |
| 02:23:06 | Patlabor221 | who? |
| 02:23:17 | Patlabor221 | slot 1? |
| 02:23:25 | Patlabor221 | cus those are super overclockable |
| 02:23:37 | Patlabor221 | they go to 450 easy |
| 02:23:42 | Patlabor221 | sometimes 600 |
| 02:24:08 | Patlabor221 | I ran a 300 at 450 for a long time |
| 02:24:35 | doughecka | oh? |
| 02:24:40 | doughecka | 600? |
| 02:24:42 | doughecka | wo |
| 02:24:43 | doughecka | wow |
| 02:24:49 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's more rare |
| 02:24:51 | doughecka | slot 1 |
| 02:24:56 | Patlabor221 | and you have to have ram that supports it |
| 02:25:04 | doughecka | and I got one 333 and a 300 |
| 02:25:06 | doughecka | A |
| 02:25:17 | Patlabor221 | can you bump up the fsb on your mobo? |
| 02:25:28 | doughecka | sure |
| 02:25:36 | doughecka | gots liitle switches |
| 02:25:58 | Patlabor221 | how fast will the mobo go? |
| 02:26:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:26:08 | doughecka | around 600 I think |
| 02:26:12 | doughecka | have to look it up |
| 02:26:31 | Patlabor221 | no the FSB not the multipyer |
| 02:26:39 | Patlabor221 | wil it do 100mhz? |
| 02:26:41 | Patlabor221 | or 133? |
| 02:26:44 | doughecka | 133 |
| 02:26:53 | Patlabor221 | cus you don't change the mulitplyer |
| 02:26:54 | doughecka | its at 66 right now |
| 02:27:00 | Patlabor221 | yeah put it at 100 |
| 02:27:05 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:27:06 | Patlabor221 | and that'll make it a 450 |
| 02:27:09 | doughecka | no heat sink? |
| 02:27:11 | Patlabor221 | or a bondfire |
| 02:27:12 | doughecka | or anything? |
| 02:27:20 | Patlabor221 | ohh you have to cool it |
| 02:27:26 | Patlabor221 | runs hoter then hell |
| 02:27:28 | doughecka | no extra heatsink? |
| 02:27:31 | Patlabor221 | cool it big time |
| 02:27:36 | Patlabor221 | you may need one |
| 02:27:42 | doughecka | hm |
| 02:27:43 | Patlabor221 | for 450 I just had a good fan |
| 02:27:51 | doughecka | The Celeron 266 and 300 ran at speeds of 412 MHz and 464 MHz without any problems. However, for non-overclocking purposes the Celeron cartridge could not be recommended. Its lack of L2 cache was too big a disadvantage. |
| 02:28:02 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:28:07 | doughecka | woo |
| 02:28:09 | Patlabor221 | it has L2 |
| 02:28:10 | doughecka | I got the next one |
| 02:28:12 | Patlabor221 | just not much |
| 02:28:16 | doughecka | I have L2 extra |
| 02:28:18 | Patlabor221 | like 12k |
| 02:28:25 | doughecka | The interesting part is that the new cartridge holds 128 KB L2 cache inside the CPU itself. This gives very good performance, since the L2 cache runs at full CPU speed. Here you see a Celeron 300A. A chip on a card: |
| 02:28:33 | doughecka | I have a 300A |
| 02:28:41 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what I ahd |
| 02:28:46 | doughecka | and a 333 |
| 02:28:51 | Patlabor221 | the P2s ran the L@ at half the CPU |
| 02:28:59 | doughecka | In terms of over-clocking they proved successful as well. Here it appears that the 300A was the best. It works fine with a clock doubling of 4.5 X 103 MHz giving 464 MHz. The 333A model "only" runs at 416 MHz (5 X 83 MHz). |
| 02:29:01 | Patlabor221 | the Cellys and P3s run it at spu |
| 02:29:21 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:29:24 | Patlabor221 | yeah the 300a was great for it |
| 02:29:30 | doughecka | 103 mhz = FSB? |
| 02:29:34 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:29:44 | doughecka | hmmI dunno if I have 103 mhz as an option |
| 02:29:53 | Patlabor221 | it'll be called 100 |
| 02:29:58 | Patlabor221 | they round |
| 02:30:01 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:30:06 | Patlabor221 | like the P3 667 |
| 02:30:10 | Patlabor221 | it's realy 666.6666 |
| 02:30:14 | doughecka | wow |
| 02:30:18 | Patlabor221 | but then it would be the processor of HELL!!!!!! |
| 02:30:21 | Widget | Is it possible to connect to an IRC server with telnet? |
| 02:30:21 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:30:26 | Patlabor221 | and that's not a good marketing point |
| 02:30:28 | doughecka | Widget: yea, but its hard |
| 02:30:32 | doughecka | Patlabor221: hehe |
| 02:31:13 | doughecka | now will my vid card still work and all that? |
| 02:31:39 | Patlabor221 | why wound't it |
| 02:31:44 | Patlabor221 | it's not on the CPU buss |
| 02:31:45 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:31:48 | doughecka | ok |
| 02:31:52 | doughecka | how about my ram? |
| 02:31:57 | Patlabor221 | it's on the agp and PCI |
| 02:32:00 | doughecka | k |
| 02:32:02 | Patlabor221 | the ram will run at the FSB |
| 02:32:05 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:32:07 | doughecka | ok |
| 02:32:08 | Patlabor221 | that's why you need ram that supports it |
| 02:32:16 | doughecka | I think my ram can go 100 |
| 02:32:16 | Patlabor221 | of it's PC100 then it supports 100mhz |
| 02:32:21 | doughecka | atleast some of the ram |
| 02:33:16 | Widget | doughecka: How is it done? |
| 02:33:28 | doughecka | dunno, I never tried |
| 02:33:32 | Patlabor221 | just tellnet to the server at the port |
| 02:33:41 | doughecka | telnet to irc.openprojects.net on port 6667 |
| 02:33:42 | Patlabor221 | just like you do when you tellnet into a pop server |
| 02:33:44 | Widget | It disconnects me. |
| 02:33:48 | Widget | "Connectrion Timed out". |
| 02:33:50 | doughecka | your firewalled |
| 02:34:00 | Widget | But it says "Looking for ident response", etc. |
| 02:34:05 | doughecka | oh? |
| 02:34:06 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:34:12 | Patlabor221 | you need to repond |
| 02:34:14 | doughecka | try connecting to dalnet |
| 02:34:17 | Widget | Trying 134.102.206.163... |
| 02:34:17 | Widget | Connected to irc.openprojects.net. |
| 02:34:17 | Widget | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 02:34:17 | Widget | NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname... |
| 02:34:18 | Widget | NOTICE AUTH :*** Checking ident |
| 02:34:18 | Patlabor221 | respond |
| 02:34:20 | Widget | NOTICE AUTH :*** Got ident response |
| 02:34:20 | doughecka | I got the same error |
| 02:34:22 | Widget | NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname |
| 02:34:25 | Widget | Patlabor221: What with? |
| 02:34:32 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 02:34:36 | captain_proton | Widget: hang on one sec |
| 02:34:38 | Patlabor221 | this is why it's a pain |
| 02:34:42 | doughecka | read the irc man |
| 02:34:46 | lurgyman | noof |
| 02:34:46 | Patlabor221 | why do you want to do this? |
| 02:34:52 | Patlabor221 | moof |
| 02:35:01 | Patlabor221 | respect the moof |
| 02:35:03 | doughecka | woof |
| 02:35:06 | Widget | I need to IRC on a computer without irc. |
| 02:35:07 | Patlabor221 | no moof |
| 02:35:10 | Patlabor221 | the cowdog |
| 02:35:13 | Widget | Foom. |
| 02:35:16 | Widget | No, it's the dogcow. |
| 02:35:16 | captain_proton | Widget: ok, telnet to port 6667 |
| 02:35:18 | Widget | Get it right! |
| 02:35:26 | Patlabor221 | tht's the rocketlauncher sound |
| 02:35:27 | captain_proton | after it stops outputting, give it these lines: |
| 02:35:27 | doughecka | ooooh |
| 02:35:30 | doughecka | moof! |
| 02:35:30 | captain_proton | USER blah 0 * :huh |
| 02:35:32 | doughecka | duh |
| 02:35:33 | Patlabor221 | widget you don't know moof? |
| 02:35:37 | captain_proton | NICK nickname |
| 02:35:39 | Patlabor221 | and you call yourself a mac user |
| 02:37:15 | captain_proton | Widget: why don't you just install an irc client? |
| 02:37:16 | Widget | captain_proton: How do you speak? |
| 02:37:23 | captain_proton | Widget: first you need to JOIN #bzflag |
| 02:37:29 | Widget | captain_proton: It doesn't allow you to install gcc. |
| 02:37:33 | Widget | captain_proton: I joined #hihihi |
| 02:37:36 | Widget | captain_proton: But I can't say anything. |
| 02:37:45 | captain_proton | PRIVMSG #hihihi :this is what i say |
| 02:37:55 | Patlabor221 | do you type /msg <chan> text? |
| 02:37:57 | Patlabor221 | perhpas |
| 02:38:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:38:04 | Widget | Wow, this is so cool. |
| 02:38:08 | Patlabor221 | I was close |
| 02:38:20 | captain_proton | you can't do ACTION's because those require the ability to type a \01 |
| 02:38:48 | widget_ | hihihi |
| 02:38:59 | Patlabor221 | widget can't you just use a web IRC thing? |
| 02:39:22 | doughecka | neato |
| 02:39:27 | Widget | But this is so much funner. |
| 02:39:30 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:39:36 | doughecka | but be sure to do the pings |
| 02:39:42 | Widget | PONG |
| 02:39:43 | doughecka | or you will get disconnected |
| 02:39:56 | Patlabor221 | Ping |
| 02:39:58 | doughecka | anyway... |
| 02:39:59 | Patlabor221 | PING |
| 02:40:01 | Patlabor221 | PING |
| 02:40:02 | doughecka | is away |
| 02:40:03 | Patlabor221 | PING |
| 02:40:05 | | pong |
| 02:40:05 | doughecka | ibot ping |
| 02:40:21 | widget_ | Hm? |
| 02:40:23 | Patlabor221 | ohh that must have messed her up |
| 02:40:35 | widget_ | I don't return CTCPs. |
| 02:40:44 | Patlabor221 | I see that |
| 02:41:13 | Widget | Hm... it shouldn't be very hard to create an IRC client. |
| 02:41:49 | Patlabor221 | I saw some classes that did all the set up for you |
| 02:42:06 | Patlabor221 | but no it's not bad, like pop is not too bad |
| 02:44:55 | widget_ | This is soo fun. |
| 02:45:08 | widget_ | captain_proton: Thanks so much! |
| 02:55:35 | doughecka | is back |
| 02:58:48 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:59:02 | doughecka | Celeron 300A 100 MHz x4.5 (450 MHz) |
| 02:59:02 | doughecka | 92 MHz x4.5 (414 MHz) 2,1V |
| 02:59:02 | doughecka | 2,0V |
| 02:59:22 | doughecka | but how big of a heat sink does it need... |
| 02:59:52 | Patlabor221 | 4.2 square meeters of surface area |
| 02:59:58 | doughecka | ppff |
| 03:00:14 | Patlabor221 | how hot is it running |
| 03:00:19 | doughecka | hmm |
| 03:00:20 | doughecka | dunno |
| 03:01:40 | doughecka | or I could over clock the 333 mhz to 500 mhz maybe |
| 03:01:59 | Patlabor221 | maybe |
| 03:02:03 | Patlabor221 | long maybe |
| 03:02:06 | doughecka | if I raise the core voltage and get a freaking huge heatsink |
| 03:02:08 | Patlabor221 | the 333 was picky |
| 03:02:11 | doughecka | yea |
| 03:02:46 | doughecka | the 300A goes to 450 |
| 03:02:56 | Patlabor221 | it should |
| 03:04:28 | doughecka | nice webiste |
| 03:04:31 | doughecka | http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q3/000728/celeron-05.html#overclocking_speed |
| 03:18:19 | widget_ | Hm |
| 03:18:31 | widget_ | I |
| 03:18:43 | widget_ | Fooey. |
| 04:10:02 | captain_proton | be seeing you |
| 04:37:34 | captain_proton | scanline: prisoner if you're interested |
| 05:36:12 | captain_proton | scanline: awake? :) |
| 05:48:58 | iLLf8d | night all |
| 06:31:35 | captain_proton | ibot x de en Kraftig bewegt |
| 06:31:40 | | captain_proton: Kraftig moves |
| 06:34:30 | captain_proton | cries out for Chestal |
| 06:35:19 | Chestal | morning |
| 06:35:37 | Widget | Moin. |
| 06:36:02 | Widget | ibot: x de en Kraft. |
| 06:36:04 | | Widget: Strength. |
| 06:46:16 | captain_proton | what ist kraftig? ;) |
| 07:58:46 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 07:58:46 | CLQ | ibot ducati |
| 07:58:47 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 07:58:54 | | ACTION burps softly |
| 07:58:54 | CLQ | ibot burp |
| 07:59:00 | | ACTION burps softly |
| 07:59:00 | CLQ | ibot burp |
| 07:59:12 | | ACTION burps softly |
| 07:59:12 | CLQ | ibot burp |
| 08:35:00 | | ACTION farts. |
| 08:35:00 | CLQ | ibot: fart |
| 09:54:11 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:54:11 | Pingu | ibot, ducati |
| 09:54:12 | bzbot | Yeti (G): -6 (18-24). Rawen Ra (R): 75 (129-54). chris (R): 3 (24-21). Shadow (R): 0 (1-1). M i r e l l a (G): 0 (0-0). [dmp] (G): -15 (15-30). |
| 10:24:50 | Pingu | ZZZZzZzZZZzzzzZZzzZzZzzZzzzzzzz........... |
| 11:27:37 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:27:37 | Pingu | ibot, ducati |
| 11:27:38 | bzbot | cheesus (G): -2 (18-20). ;-) (G): -9 (3-12). Quol (R): 64 (111-47). pasdif (R): -2 (3-5). Roedie (R): 1 (4-3). |
| 11:49:24 | Pinguin | All: How to make screenshot of bzflag running ... gimp can't aquire an image from opengl ? |
| 11:50:17 | Pinguin | I know there is at least on program for it, but i forgot its name ... |
| 12:22:30 | CLQ | hi ibot |
| 12:22:39 | | bonjour, CLQ |
| 12:22:39 | CLQ | ibot hi |
| 12:22:57 | | CLQ: what? |
| 12:22:57 | CLQ | ibot your french |
| 12:43:38 | captain_proton | Pinguin: you might be able to use import -window root |
| 12:47:56 | anyone | it is me Terminator |
| 12:48:01 | doughecka | ah |
| 12:48:04 | doughecka | greetings |
| 12:48:14 | anyone | for some reason it wouldnt let me join as Terminator |
| 12:48:17 | anyone | brb |
| 12:48:20 | doughecka | hmm |
| 12:48:32 | doughecka | try it with a _ at the end |
| 12:48:51 | doughecka | *** Terminator is ~Terminato@as1b-150.chi.il.dial.anet.com (Terminator) |
| 12:48:51 | doughecka | *** on channels: #freenet #c++ |
| 12:48:51 | doughecka | *** on irc via server irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.info/) |
| 12:48:51 | doughecka | *** Terminator has been idle 455 minutes, signed on at Sat Sep 21 01:59:13 2002 |
| 12:49:06 | doughecka | you should register your name |
| 12:50:43 | CLQ | Joust for wondering: how can i do that? |
| 12:50:52 | doughecka | ahh |
| 12:50:58 | doughecka | /msg nickserv help |
| 12:51:03 | doughecka | it will tell you how |
| 12:51:08 | CLQ | thanks |
| 12:51:38 | anyone | bzck |
| 12:51:45 | anyone | back* |
| 12:51:45 | doughecka | ? |
| 12:51:50 | doughecka | ah |
| 12:52:18 | anyone | wait let me try joining as Terminator again |
| 12:52:34 | doughecka | all he needs to do is /nick |
| 12:54:13 | CLQ | password |
| 12:54:23 | doughecka | ? |
| 12:54:25 | CLQ | sorry |
| 12:54:28 | doughecka | hmm |
| 12:54:34 | [Pingu] | hiiiii |
| 12:54:37 | doughecka | did you regiater? |
| 12:54:40 | Terminator_Elite | hi |
| 12:54:48 | Terminator_Elite | i is back |
| 12:54:53 | CLQ | yes but under wrong password |
| 12:55:07 | doughecka | hmm |
| 12:55:16 | CLQ | ist ok |
| 12:55:23 | CLQ | I will remember |
| 12:55:31 | doughecka | ha |
| 12:55:37 | Terminator_Elite | i still cant connect as Terminator cuz i think sumone else has that name aswell |
| 12:55:45 | doughecka | yea |
| 12:55:47 | doughecka | well |
| 12:55:49 | doughecka | do this |
| 12:56:00 | doughecka | oops |
| 12:56:05 | doughecka | /msg nickserv help |
| 12:56:10 | doughecka | and register terminator |
| 12:56:16 | CLQ | It did not ask me for any password |
| 12:56:23 | doughecka | and then kick terminator off and get it back |
| 12:56:26 | doughecka | hmm |
| 12:57:08 | CLQ | How do I know I AM registered |
| 12:58:04 | Terminator_Elite | Terminator |
| 12:58:07 | Terminator_Elite | whoops |
| 12:58:12 | doughecka | heh |
| 12:58:47 | doughecka | hmm |
| 12:59:04 | doughecka | is away: busy! busy! dreadfully busy! |
| 13:00:14 | CLQ | ok |
| 13:00:25 | CLQ | now I am "loged in" |
| 13:00:29 | CLQ | logged |
| 13:11:24 | Pinguin | <captain_proton: import works! THX ... |
| 13:19:40 | doughecka | woo |
| 13:19:46 | doughecka | gots netstumbler runnin |
| 13:25:35 | Terminator_Elite | hi again |
| 13:25:41 | doughecka | heh |
| 13:25:54 | Terminator_Elite | i just had my lunch |
| 13:26:06 | doughecka | where do you live? |
| 13:26:13 | Terminator_Elite | england |
| 13:26:19 | Terminator_Elite | i had a late lunch |
| 13:26:35 | Terminator_Elite | it is 3:30 pm here now |
| 13:26:42 | doughecka | ooh |
| 13:26:43 | doughecka | neat |
| 13:26:52 | Terminator_Elite | where do u live? |
| 13:27:01 | doughecka | USA |
| 13:27:03 | doughecka | kentucy |
| 13:27:07 | Terminator_Elite | cool |
| 13:27:13 | Terminator_Elite | what is da time now |
| 13:27:27 | doughecka | 1030 |
| 13:27:30 | doughecka | 10:30 |
| 13:27:33 | Terminator_Elite | cool |
| 13:29:33 | Terminator_Elite | hi ya CLQ |
| 13:29:53 | CLQ | hi |
| 13:30:21 | CLQ | waves |
| 13:30:27 | Terminator_Elite | is anyone here on 56k |
| 13:30:37 | Terminator_Elite | waves back at him |
| 13:31:22 | Terminator_Elite | cool noone is on 56k |
| 13:33:12 | doughecka | ha |
| 13:33:15 | doughecka | is on dsl |
| 13:33:26 | Terminator_Elite | is on dsl aswell |
| 13:33:57 | doughecka | neato |
| 13:34:02 | Terminator_Elite | is on adsl or dsl whateva ya like to call it |
| 13:34:04 | Terminator_Elite | yup |
| 13:34:09 | doughecka | adsl here |
| 13:34:25 | CLQ | isdn 64 000 |
| 13:34:41 | Terminator_Elite | adsl i faster than isdn |
| 13:34:46 | Terminator_Elite | i think neway |
| 13:34:48 | doughecka | much |
| 13:34:50 | CLQ | yes |
| 13:34:55 | doughecka | I had isdn too |
| 13:35:04 | doughecka | then we upgraded |
| 13:35:06 | CLQ | im getting adsl in february |
| 13:35:06 | Terminator_Elite | i went from 56k to adsl |
| 13:35:13 | doughecka | ha |
| 13:35:15 | Terminator_Elite | i hate adsl |
| 13:35:22 | Terminator_Elite | no i metn i hate 56k |
| 13:35:30 | Terminator_Elite | whoops |
| 13:35:31 | doughecka | I had isdn, but never used it, I used 36k dail up |
| 13:35:40 | Terminator_Elite | k |
| 13:35:44 | doughecka | my dad uses isdn |
| 13:35:48 | doughecka | used* |
| 13:36:07 | Terminator_Elite | k |
| 13:36:16 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:36:16 | Terminator_Elite | ibot ducati |
| 13:36:17 | bzbot | M i r e l l a (G): 1 (1-0). Shadow (R): -13 (31-44). C (R): -10 (57-67). flynn (G): 2 (24-22). |
| 13:36:53 | | Terminator_Elite: i'm not following you... |
| 13:36:53 | Terminator_Elite | ibot dougchecka |
| 13:37:03 | doughecka | wonders how to fit 5 megs onto a floppy |
| 13:37:11 | Terminator_Elite | lol |
| 13:37:56 | | OK, Terminator_Elite. |
| 13:37:56 | Terminator_Elite | ibot dougcheka is also known as bzdoug |
| 13:38:06 | | dougcheka is known as bzdoug |
| 13:38:06 | Terminator_Elite | ibot dougcheka |
| 13:38:34 | Terminator_Elite | hmm it missed out da also i forgot it would do dat |
| 13:38:40 | Terminator_Elite | nm |
| 13:38:57 | doughecka | dougchecka? |
| 13:39:15 | Terminator_Elite | ya forgot to put ibot first |
| 13:39:32 | Terminator_Elite | oops i c what ya mean |
| 13:39:38 | Terminator_Elite | i spelt it wrong |
| 13:39:51 | | Terminator_Elite: what? |
| 13:39:51 | Terminator_Elite | ibot dougecka |
| 13:39:59 | doughecka | dougHECKA |
| 13:40:06 | bzdoug | :) |
| 13:40:11 | Terminator_Elite | lol |
| 13:40:18 | | Terminator_Elite: sorry... |
| 13:40:18 | Terminator_Elite | ibot doughecka |
| 13:40:30 | | d is for dumb |
| 13:40:30 | Terminator_Elite | ibot bzdoug |
| 13:40:40 | Terminator_Elite | huh? |
| 13:40:42 | Terminator_Elite | lol |
| 13:41:29 | Terminator_Elite | is gonna go play UT2003 Demo for a little while |
| 13:41:52 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 13:44:14 | Chestal | thou shalt play no games besides bzflag |
| 13:47:50 | bzdoug | thou shalt not play UT2003 Demo without bowing to bzgod |
| 13:51:20 | Terminator_Elite | i am back |
| 13:54:52 | bzdoug | heya bryjen! |
| 13:56:10 | bryjen | hi all |
| 13:56:24 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 13:56:24 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 13:56:26 | bzdoug | hows da weather? |
| 13:56:28 | Terminator_Elite | hi |
| 13:56:40 | bryjen | its outside |
| 13:56:51 | bzdoug | thats good |
| 13:57:06 | bryjen | looks nice. i havent been out yet. |
| 13:57:18 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 13:57:24 | bzdoug | is having a yard sale |
| 13:57:33 | Terminator_Elite | g2g now |
| 13:57:36 | Terminator_Elite | bye all |
| 13:57:36 | bzdoug | cya |
| 13:57:38 | bzdoug | round |
| 13:58:14 | bzdoug | hey bryjen what kind of work do you do? |
| 13:58:28 | bryjen | computers and networking |
| 13:58:42 | bzdoug | neat |
| 14:02:07 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:02:07 | bzbot | Green: 1 players, score: 0 | |
| 14:02:41 | | pong |
| 14:02:41 | bzdoug | ibot ping |
| 14:02:53 | bzdoug | wonders off to play UT |
| 14:41:32 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:41:32 | [TeA] | ibot, ducati |
| 14:41:33 | bzbot | Nicson (G): 0 (26-26). bryjen (R): -7 (67-74). Shadow (R): -14 (7-21). bzgirl (Vbz) (R): -4 (12-16). ensign (G): 21 (74-53). Ruudi [BZ] (R): 10 (80-70). M i r e l l a (G): 2 (47-45). Chestal (G): 6 (26-20). |
| 14:42:26 | lurgyman | good morning player number one |
| 14:43:04 | lurgyman | you wake up in the 2nd best room in the pink hotel |
| 14:43:32 | lurgyman | there is a naked devil in the mirror |
| 14:43:44 | lurgyman | p1: he looks horrible |
| 14:43:48 | lurgyman | p1: who is that? |
| 14:43:51 | lurgyman | it's you |
| 14:43:56 | lurgyman | p1: i look horrible |
| 14:47:17 | mandy | ahh ruddi??? |
| 14:53:59 | mandy | lol hello ruudi |
| 14:58:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | lolo |
| 15:09:38 | [TeA] | ho |
| 15:09:40 | [TeA] | mandy candy |
| 15:10:08 | mandy | what?? |
| 15:10:11 | mandy | lol |
| 15:10:14 | [TeA] | hi darling |
| 15:10:15 | [TeA] | :o) |
| 15:10:30 | mandy | lol hi |
| 15:17:20 | CLQ | Anyone know how to have a leavemessage in mirc? |
| 15:17:37 | bzdoug | /msg is away: bleh |
| 15:17:40 | bzdoug | :) |
| 15:17:49 | bzdoug | and also put /away |
| 15:18:47 | CLQ | thanks |
| 15:18:53 | CLQ | testing |
| 15:19:04 | bzdoug | is away: bleh |
| 15:19:07 | bzdoug | is back |
| 15:19:17 | bzdoug | I type it all in manauly |
| 15:19:24 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:19:24 | [TeA] | ibot, ducati |
| 15:19:24 | bzbot | Nicson (G): -5 (112-117). Larry! (G): 5 (27-22). SGI (R): -8 (41-49). Obiwankenobi (FROG) (R): -5 (74-79). ensign (G): 52 (170-118). Dolphin lover (R): -28 (17-45). whee flocker (G): -8 (12-20). urban (R): -15 (18-33). |
| 15:19:42 | mandy | ahh its larry =\ |
| 15:19:45 | [TeA] | ? |
| 15:19:56 | mandy | he's freaky |
| 15:20:00 | [TeA] | lol |
| 15:20:05 | CLQ | How do i "go away"? |
| 15:20:15 | mandy | always made fun of me lol |
| 15:20:18 | bzdoug | /me is away: bleh |
| 15:20:20 | bzdoug | not .msg |
| 15:20:25 | bzdoug | /msg |
| 15:20:29 | bzdoug | oops |
| 15:20:31 | bzdoug | use |
| 15:20:37 | bzdoug | /me is away: bleh |
| 15:20:43 | CLQ | is away: testing |
| 15:21:04 | CLQ | is back |
| 15:27:01 | CLQ | Does anyone know how to register a channel? |
| 15:27:10 | bzdoug | /msg chanserv |
| 15:27:17 | CLQ | thanks |
| 15:27:21 | bzdoug | msg chanserv help |
| 15:27:25 | CLQ | ok |
| 15:33:39 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 15:33:39 | sussudio | ibot jzaun? |
| 15:33:41 | bzbot | sussudio (r): 8 (18-10). LOLO (r): -4 (0-4). missed me (P): -5 (1-6). OzHeat (G): 22 (28-6). |
| 15:40:20 | CLQ | One more question: How do I set a topic for a channel? |
| 15:40:32 | bzdoug | /topic I think |
| 15:40:40 | bzdoug | maybe |
| 15:40:45 | CLQ | il try |
| 15:40:45 | bzdoug | I dunno |
| 15:41:30 | CLQ | nope |
| 15:41:36 | CLQ | did not work |
| 15:42:49 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 15:42:53 | bzdoug | google for it |
| 15:43:05 | bzdoug | there is lots of docs on how to setup channels and stuff |
| 15:43:30 | CLQ | found out |
| 15:43:34 | bzdoug | ah |
| 15:44:04 | CLQ | topic #channel (topic |
| 15:44:12 | bzdoug | ah |
| 15:44:14 | CLQ | Wit an / |
| 15:44:48 | bzdoug | /topic #channel (topic) |
| 15:45:57 | CLQ | yes |
| 15:46:12 | CLQ | Found out how to be away |
| 15:46:19 | bzdoug | ah |
| 15:46:30 | bzdoug | [12:49] *** Signoff: CLQ ("testing") |
| 15:46:43 | CLQ | Worked |
| 15:48:52 | sussudio | SR + floor at Z6 = boom |
| 15:49:12 | bzdoug | ? |
| 15:49:22 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:49:22 | bzbot | Red: 3 players, score: -8 | Green: 4 players, score: 9 | |
| 15:49:28 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 15:49:28 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 15:49:33 | sussudio | i made a map with a floor at Z 6 |
| 15:49:39 | sussudio | if i go underneath someone and jump up |
| 15:49:42 | sussudio | it's boom with a SR |
| 15:49:48 | bzdoug | haa |
| 15:58:49 | sussudio | a lot of people are going [nr] on me on jzaun:5155 |
| 15:59:12 | Chestal | hmm, who is Cpt. Corba? |
| 15:59:17 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 15:59:17 | bzdoug | ibot jzaun |
| 15:59:18 | bzbot | dogman (P): -10 (11-21). missed me (P): -11 (11-22). Sir Lagsalot (R): -1 (6-7). OzHeat (G): 31 (45-14). |
| 15:59:37 | Chestal | I've seen his nameonce or twice,does anyone know him? |
| 15:59:47 | sussudio | no |
| 15:59:47 | bzdoug | nope |
| 16:51:02 | bzdoug | ? |
| 16:53:19 | anlinescay | igpay atinlay day! |
| 16:54:44 | Chestal | captain_proton: you there? |
| 16:54:56 | | bzflag was last seen on #openzaurus 17 hours, 50 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying: grins [Sat Sep 21 00:04:21 2002] |
| 16:54:56 | Chestal | ibot, seen bzflag |
| 16:55:02 | Chestal | hmm |
| 16:55:18 | aperson | hm |
| 16:55:39 | aperson | grr who has my name |
| 16:55:43 | aperson | <<<<<mandy |
| 16:56:17 | sussudio | its not your name |
| 16:56:18 | sussudio | -NickServ- The nickname [mandy] is not registered |
| 16:56:55 | aperson | so.... |
| 16:57:27 | cassie | there |
| 17:00:03 | mandy | muha |
| 17:00:19 | cassie | noooooo |
| 17:00:28 | mandy | doo daaaa doo daaa |
| 17:00:35 | cassie | noooo |
| 17:00:47 | mandy | ponders registering the nick |
| 17:00:53 | cassie | noo!!! |
| 17:00:58 | cassie | plz :( |
| 17:01:02 | mandy | :-| |
| 17:01:10 | cassie | :( |
| 17:01:12 | mandy | < meanie |
| 17:01:23 | cassie | yeh u are |
| 17:01:32 | cassie | gimme my nameeee |
| 17:01:41 | bzdoug | haha |
| 17:01:54 | cassie | lol |
| 17:02:49 | mandy | [20:08:40] -NickServ- Nickname: mandy << ONLINE >> |
| 17:02:49 | mandy | - |
| 17:02:49 | mandy | [20:08:40] -NickServ- Registered: 11 seconds ago |
| 17:02:49 | bzdoug | noooo |
| 17:02:49 | bzdoug | I missed it |
| 17:02:49 | mandy | <evil maniacal laughter> |
| 17:02:49 | bzdoug | pig |
| 17:02:49 | cassie | noooooo |
| 17:03:56 | mandy | hoho |
| 17:03:57 | cassie | ur so meannnnn |
| 17:04:01 | cassie | gahhh |
| 17:04:41 | mandy | :) |
| 17:05:17 | bzdoug | wonders off to play UT |
| 17:05:40 | sussudio | oopsie |
| 17:05:45 | | so damn sexy |
| 17:05:45 | bzdoug | ibot mandy? |
| 17:05:56 | bzdoug | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 17:05:56 | bzdoug | MUAHAHAHAHA |
| 17:06:01 | bzdoug | BWAHAHAHAAH |
| 17:06:07 | bzdoug | HOHOHOH |
| 17:06:10 | bzdoug | HEHEHE |
| 17:06:14 | bzdoug | HIHIHI |
| 17:06:18 | | sussudio: huh? |
| 17:06:18 | sussudio | ibot haldol |
| 17:07:15 | bzdoug | oops |
| 17:07:27 | bzdoug | I just unregistered my name |
| 17:07:40 | bzdoug | woo |
| 17:07:55 | sussudio | lalala |
| 17:08:11 | sussudio | doobedoo |
| 17:08:19 | Cassie | gosh I hate you guys |
| 17:08:25 | doughecka | ibot x en de pig swinen |
| 17:08:27 | sussudio | you're going heum? |
| 17:08:27 | | doughecka: Schwein swinen |
| 17:08:37 | doughecka | sussudio: is a pig |
| 17:08:53 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:08:55 | doughecka | shwein |
| 17:09:42 | sussudio | schweinhund |
| 17:10:12 | sussudio | dougieboy is the real meanie.... he wanted the nick password for mandy |
| 17:10:57 | Cassie | gah |
| 17:11:02 | Cassie | shut up >:( |
| 17:11:55 | sussudio | :-B |
| 17:12:18 | Cassie | lol |
| 17:21:40 | Nicole | hilo |
| 17:21:56 | Cassie | hilloz |
| 17:22:10 | Nicole | what's up? |
| 17:23:05 | Cassie | nuttin |
| 17:23:08 | Cassie | its me mandy |
| 17:23:16 | Nicole | o hey |
| 17:23:19 | Cassie | suss stole my name |
| 17:23:22 | Cassie | lol |
| 17:23:32 | Nicole | lol |
| 17:23:34 | Cassie | so i'm cassie now |
| 17:23:44 | doughecka | I did not want the password |
| 17:23:46 | Nicole | okie |
| 17:23:49 | doughecka | I was gonna kick yah |
| 17:23:56 | doughecka | P |
| 17:24:09 | Cassie | me? |
| 17:24:12 | doughecka | yah = sussudio |
| 17:24:14 | Cassie | why kick me |
| 17:24:20 | Cassie | ohh |
| 17:24:24 | doughecka | sussudio |
| 17:24:34 | Cassie | kill him |
| 17:24:39 | Cassie | beat him up |
| 17:24:39 | doughecka | no |
| 17:24:44 | doughecka | I was gonna kill sussudio |
| 17:24:46 | Cassie | i'm kidding lol |
| 17:24:54 | Cassie | oh |
| 17:25:09 | doughecka | plays UT |
| 17:27:12 | mandy | i'm bad |
| 17:27:21 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:27:25 | Cassie | grr |
| 17:27:34 | mandy | bah bah baaaad |
| 17:27:38 | Cassie | noooo |
| 17:28:12 | doughecka | tries guessing the password |
| 17:28:38 | mandy | ooh |
| 17:28:47 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:30:16 | mandy | haha i changed it |
| 17:30:39 | mandy | it was 4 letters |
| 17:31:19 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:31:23 | doughecka | tough |
| 17:31:26 | doughecka | unless... |
| 17:31:43 | doughecka | grins and msgs lilo about banning a certain person |
| 17:32:02 | mandy | dont make me smack your bitchass |
| 17:32:09 | mandy | POWERPUFF!!!!!!!! |
| 17:32:16 | doughecka | sighs |
| 17:32:29 | mandy | hah |
| 17:33:16 | sussudio | nobody will ever guess my pass |
| 17:33:46 | bzdoug | wonders over to #admins |
| 17:34:00 | sussudio | reminds you that whining will get you klined |
| 17:34:31 | Cassie | yawns |
| 17:34:55 | sussudio | too much excrement? |
| 17:35:56 | Cassie | pff |
| 17:38:21 | Cassie | :( |
| 17:38:46 | Cell_prog_insect | howdy |
| 17:39:39 | Cassie | hi |
| 17:40:18 | sussudio | bzfquerylong games.astercity.net:5155 |
| 17:45:43 | Cell_prog_insect | how do u like my col billboard trees from far away ? Ha?: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/ttbillboards.jpg |
| 17:47:43 | Cell_prog_insect | of coz u can even collide with that. |
| 17:48:21 | sussudio | bored now |
| 17:49:10 | Cassie | fudge |
| 17:53:09 | sussudio | ok, this is how it works with nickname 'ownership |
| 17:53:13 | sussudio | ................ |
| 17:53:32 | sussudio | you have to REGISTER your nick else you can't claim someone 'has your nick' |
| 17:53:43 | sussudio | you have to actively identify to your nick to keep it |
| 17:54:05 | sussudio | if you dont feel like doing that, you cant claim a nick...... |
| 17:54:19 | sussudio | o......k.......? |
| 17:54:28 | Cassie | fine |
| 17:54:51 | Cell_prog_insect | oh that guy(barbar) in the corner is composed out of 5000 tri faces. No prob for TankiTank: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/ttbarbar.jpg |
| 17:55:17 | sussudio | so if you wanna be stupid i'll drop your nick, but 2 seconds later dougie will register it and you'll be in the same situation |
| 17:56:35 | Cassie | rolls her eyes |
| 17:57:28 | Widget | Hm... Bundestagwahlen are today!! |
| 17:58:35 | Chestal | tomorrow from our point of view |
| 17:59:58 | Widget | Well, still soon. |
| 18:00:30 | Cell_prog_insect | tomorrow, i just have to look at our complex election system again |
| 18:00:38 | Cell_prog_insect | missed to understand it in school |
| 18:00:40 | Chestal | well, it's not that complex |
| 18:01:28 | Cell_prog_insect | i, know, but i have to review it, never was really inspired to understand it as a school boy |
| 18:01:33 | Chestal | there are some subtle things, but that are usually not important for your decision process |
| 18:01:42 | Chestal | what state are you in? |
| 18:01:48 | Cell_prog_insect | bayern |
| 18:02:00 | Chestal | http://www.bundestagswahl-2002.info/ has some information |
| 18:02:12 | Chestal | ok, in Bayern, your first vote probably is not very important |
| 18:02:12 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, cool |
| 18:02:31 | Cell_prog_insect | why? |
| 18:02:56 | Widget | Bayern = Bavaria? |
| 18:03:09 | Chestal | Widget: yes |
| 18:03:19 | Cell_prog_insect | Erstimme wertlos, aha |
| 18:03:24 | Chestal | Cell: becuase it will ave no influence of the contitution of the Bundestag |
| 18:03:34 | Chestal | I guess the CSU candidate will be elected anyway |
| 18:03:39 | Widget | Ein starkes Mandat fuer Gerhard Schroeder. Am 22.September beide Stimmen fuer die SPD. |
| 18:03:43 | Chestal | and there won't be any 'Überhangmandate' |
| 18:04:00 | Cell_prog_insect | not from me, i wvote for the Greens |
| 18:04:15 | Widget | Wow, there's a Green party in Germany too. |
| 18:04:27 | Chestal | Widget; do you live in Wellington, btw? |
| 18:04:39 | Widget | Chestal: Nope. |
| 18:04:42 | Widget | Chestal: Invercargill. |
| 18:05:00 | Chestal | that's not a big one, is it? |
| 18:05:05 | Cell_prog_insect | but i dont know how strong FDP gets, so CSU+FDP could still have the majority of seats even though SPD gets more votes than CDU |
| 18:05:06 | Chestal | but sounds nice :-) |
| 18:05:16 | Widget | It's pretty small. |
| 18:05:21 | Widget | Then again, even Wellington isn't so big. |
| 18:05:25 | Chestal | well, if you believe the predictions, it will be very, very tight |
| 18:05:31 | Chestal | I guess there's noway of telling now |
| 18:05:32 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 18:05:42 | Chestal | do you speak Maori? |
| 18:05:53 | Widget | No... I just know some phrases. |
| 18:05:57 | Widget | That they teach everyone in school. |
| 18:06:04 | Widget | Like.. "Kia ora". |
| 18:06:09 | Chestal | you are of European heritage? |
| 18:06:11 | Widget | "Hello". |
| 18:06:17 | Widget | Chestal: European and Chinese. |
| 18:06:28 | Chestal | and you are living on the northern isle? |
| 18:06:34 | Widget | South Island. |
| 18:06:50 | Chestal | most peopel live in the north, right? |
| 18:06:57 | Widget | Yeah... a lot more. |
| 18:07:28 | Chestal | heh, my page here says that your election system is similar to the German one |
| 18:07:40 | Widget | Ya, we were talking about that before. |
| 18:07:47 | Widget | A few years ago we switched to the new system. |
| 18:07:52 | Chestal | yes, I seem to remember |
| 18:07:57 | scanline | is away: playing pool |
| 18:08:32 | Chestal | hmm, you even have an army |
| 18:08:34 | Widget | So since then everybody's been confused as to how things work. That must have been why Red Clark got reelected. |
| 18:08:39 | Chestal | but I guess that's actaulyl pretty useless? |
| 18:08:55 | Widget | Ya... no one cares about it any more. |
| 18:09:00 | Widget | They never do anything. |
| 18:09:37 | Chestal | which languages do you learn in school? |
| 18:09:38 | Widget | And no air force or navy to speak of. |
| 18:10:05 | Widget | Chestal: The normal European languages, like French or Spanish. Maybe German or Japanese, in some places. |
| 18:10:33 | Widget | My school had only French and Spanish. |
| 18:10:46 | Chestal | my page states that Japanease is the main foreign language, after that Frehcn and Chinese |
| 18:11:20 | Widget | Really? I know some schools have Japanese, but I thought it wasn't as common as the European languages. |
| 18:11:37 | Widget | And... I've never heard of a school teaching Chinese. |
| 18:12:02 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 18:13:59 | Widget | What page is this? |
| 18:14:01 | Chestal | the Cook Island and Niue are New Zealand, too? |
| 18:14:16 | Chestal | it's the Almanach on www.spiegel.de, has some data on all countries |
| 18:14:21 | Chestal | but German only, I guess |
| 18:14:52 | Widget | They're sort of like... colonies. |
| 18:14:55 | Widget | Or mandates. |
| 18:16:56 | Chestal | I could go to New Zealand for holiday |
| 18:17:04 | Chestal | if it wouldn't be that long a flight |
| 18:17:14 | bzdoug | yea |
| 18:17:16 | Widget | That would be cool. :-) |
| 18:17:22 | bzdoug | but the jet lag would be terrible |
| 18:17:24 | Widget | A lot of Japanese people come here for holidays. |
| 18:17:59 | Widget | Is it true... that Germans go abroad on holidays more than anyone else? |
| 18:18:17 | Chestal | hmm, I don't know |
| 18:18:54 | Chestal | I think I'll go to the cinema in half an hour |
| 18:19:07 | bzdoug | heh |
| 18:19:25 | Widget | What's showing? |
| 18:19:25 | Chestal | my expectations aren't too high this time, but I hope, I will enjoy at least some of it |
| 18:19:30 | Chestal | 'Signs' |
| 18:19:33 | bzdoug | haha |
| 18:19:36 | Widget | Oh, I saw that movie! |
| 18:19:40 | bzdoug | sooooos tupid |
| 18:20:00 | Chestal | last week I finally got to the "Requiem for a Dream", fought hard for that |
| 18:20:01 | Widget | I went to see it with my friends... and there was an exchange student from India. |
| 18:20:09 | Chestal | no spoiling please |
| 18:20:19 | bzdoug | Chestal: its borrring |
| 18:20:21 | Widget | And there was this shot of Bengalore, India. |
| 18:20:22 | Widget | But yes. |
| 18:20:28 | Widget | It's sort of funny. |
| 18:20:30 | Widget | But... |
| 18:20:31 | Chestal | bzdoug: "Unbreakbale" was boring, too :-) |
| 18:20:32 | bzdoug | Chestal: but I never seen it |
| 18:20:36 | Widget | Anything else good? |
| 18:21:27 | Widget | I want to see Signs in German. :-) |
| 18:22:18 | Widget | BRB. Breakfast. |
| 18:22:39 | bzdoug | has not had lunch yet |
| 18:58:27 | Terminator | hi all |
| 19:03:35 | blair | sup tarballs |
| 19:12:46 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:12:47 | [TeA] | ibot, ducati |
| 19:12:48 | bzbot | Chestal (G): 21 (90-69). Ivan (R): -8 (6-14). w339 (TLZ) (G): -15 (26-41). bzgirl (G): 0 (29-29). M1 (R): 44 (120-76). urban (R): 1 (7-6). Terminator (G): 0 (9-9). Jman (R): -5 (31-36). |
| 19:16:33 | Terminator | i am back from ducati |
| 19:16:56 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 19:16:56 | Terminator | ibot jzaun |
| 19:16:56 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 19:17:09 | | bzfquerylong games.astercity.net 5155 |
| 19:17:09 | Terminator | ibot astercity |
| 19:17:16 | bzbot | fat kid with no friends (P): 32 (70-38). necrophile (r): 0 (4-4). Mr. Smithers (B): 6 (7-1). Sonny (G): 15 (45-30). microkid88 (G): -25 (8-33). snorre (r): 34 (78-44). Fat Asian Whore (G): -21 (11-32). asdf (R): -7 (14-21). chubychild (G): -35 (2-37). you (R): -3 (0-3). eddiemur (R): -24 (7-31). abu (r): 0 (0-0). mojo (G): 11 (18-7). keyman (r): -14 (5-19). ibobi (R): -7 (3-10). |
| 19:22:52 | | bugger all, i dunno, lurgyman |
| 19:22:52 | lurgyman | ibot: how 'bout them cardboard socks? |
| 19:23:01 | | lurgyman: sorry... |
| 19:23:01 | lurgyman | ibot: it's a lie! |
| 19:23:07 | | lurgyman: huh? |
| 19:23:07 | lurgyman | ibot: as you should be |
| 19:23:13 | | lurgyman: sorry... |
| 19:23:13 | lurgyman | ibot: exactly |
| 19:25:38 | bzdoug | please dont play with someone with a higher IQ |
| 19:25:54 | Terminator | lol |
| 19:26:15 | Terminator | my IQ is 124 |
| 19:26:22 | bzdoug | mine is around 120 |
| 19:26:30 | bzdoug | but I was rushing it |
| 19:26:34 | Terminator | cool |
| 19:26:37 | bzdoug | trying to beat my mom |
| 19:26:39 | bzdoug | :) |
| 19:26:41 | Terminator | k |
| 19:26:44 | Terminator | :-) |
| 19:26:56 | Terminator | the one i did had a time limit |
| 19:27:02 | bzdoug | ha |
| 19:27:05 | Terminator | foreach question |
| 19:27:10 | bzdoug | oh |
| 19:27:39 | Terminator | it was a national IQ test in england |
| 19:27:44 | bzdoug | oh |
| 19:27:45 | bzdoug | cool |
| 19:27:48 | Terminator | yup |
| 19:28:06 | Terminator | i think the average IQ in da world is ment to be 100 |
| 19:28:11 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 19:30:10 | Terminator | bzdoug what team r u on? |
| 19:30:26 | bzdoug | annilihation |
| 19:30:31 | bzdoug | I am the leader |
| 19:30:33 | Terminator | cool |
| 19:30:49 | Terminator | i am the leader of The Elite |
| 19:30:58 | Terminator | our first match is tommorow |
| 19:31:04 | Widget | Terminator: It was fixed that way in the 1930s, but the average has changed now. |
| 19:31:13 | Terminator | oh ok |
| 19:31:28 | Terminator | whoops |
| 19:31:32 | bzdoug | Widget is smart |
| 19:31:32 | bzdoug | :P |
| 19:31:37 | Terminator | yup |
| 19:31:48 | Terminator | i bet ya his IQ is 150+ |
| 19:32:00 | bzdoug | her IQ |
| 19:32:05 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 19:32:07 | Terminator | oops |
| 19:32:23 | Terminator | sry widget for calling u a he |
| 19:33:52 | Terminator | bzdoug r u planning on going to university |
| 19:34:01 | bzdoug | dunno yet |
| 19:34:10 | Terminator | k |
| 19:35:32 | Terminator | is gonna go play UT2003 demo now cuz it is great |
| 19:35:36 | bzdoug | ha |
| 19:42:19 | bzdoug | heya bryjen |
| 19:42:42 | bryjen | hi |
| 20:10:56 | bzdoug | ? |
| 20:20:35 | Terminator | i am back |
| 20:21:07 | Terminator | hmm not much convo whilst i was gone |
| 20:21:12 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:21:12 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 20:21:12 | bzbot | Nicson (G): 2 (28-26). Ivan (R): -38 (95-133). luser (R): -1 (22-23). KiLLeR? (G): -2 (5-7). Bottle (G): -5 (4-9). Serious Sam (R): 19 (88-69). bzgirl (R): 3 (16-13). [meq] freelancer (G): 10 (22-12). @T (B): 0 (0-0). |
| 20:21:27 | Terminator | ok |
| 20:31:54 | Terminator | very quiet |
| 20:32:01 | Terminator | maybe too quiet |
| 20:32:07 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:32:07 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 20:32:07 | bzbot | Nicson (G): 3 (51-48). Ivan (R): -41 (118-159). [TeA]=Pingu (penguins) (R): 6 (9-3). @Terminator (B): 0 (0-0). bottle (G): -1 (3-4). [meq] freelancer (R): -2 (5-7). bzgirl (R): 0 (38-38). luser (G): -4 (5-9). T-34 (G): 1 (23-22). |
| 20:33:33 | iLLf8d | someone beat our high scores bummer |
| 20:33:35 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 20:33:44 | iLLf8d | ah well i'm gonna leave it as is I think |
| 20:34:04 | iLLf8d | needs to make a bot to run it up into the 10's of thousands heh |
| 20:34:12 | iLLf8d | something untouchable |
| 20:34:12 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:34:19 | iLLf8d | takes to long by hand |
| 20:37:03 | Terminator | hmm |
| 20:37:18 | Terminator | sum one talkin' to emself |
| 20:37:32 | Terminator | but i suppose i am talkin' to myself |
| 20:37:42 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:37:42 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 20:37:42 | bzbot | Nicson (G): 2 (61-59). Ivan (R): -43 (129-172). [TeA]=Pingu (penguins) (R): 7 (21-14). @Terminator (B): 0 (0-0). bottle (G): -10 (6-16). [meq] freelancer (R): -2 (12-14). bzgirl (R): -4 (47-51). luser (G): -6 (12-18). T-34 (G): 7 (37-30). |
| 20:38:39 | Widget | hihihi |
| 20:41:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 20:42:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | how's it goin' ? |
| 20:45:34 | [TeA] | hohoho |
| 20:46:25 | [TeA] | ({)({)({)({)(})(})(})(}) |
| 20:50:34 | scanline | is back (gone 02:42:37) |
| 20:51:52 | [TeA] | well |
| 20:51:56 | [TeA] | nightnight all |
| 20:52:15 | Widget | Goodnight. |
| 20:52:18 | Widget | Are you voting tomorrow? |
| 20:55:12 | bzdoug | hes too young I think |
| 20:55:24 | bzdoug | dont you have to be 21 or somethin? |
| 20:55:34 | Terminator | to do what? |
| 20:55:45 | Terminator | oh vote |
| 20:55:45 | bzdoug | vote |
| 20:55:54 | bzdoug | in germany |
| 20:56:04 | Terminator | in england u only have to be 16 to vote |
| 20:56:13 | bzdoug | cool |
| 20:56:21 | Terminator | yup |
| 20:56:22 | bzdoug | to vote the queen in or what? |
| 20:56:29 | Terminator | UT2003 is calling me now |
| 20:56:34 | bzdoug | hah |
| 20:56:35 | bzdoug | cya |
| 20:56:36 | Terminator | be back in a while |
| 20:56:42 | bzdoug | is away: movies |
| 20:58:07 | Widget | Terminator: No, you need to be 18, yes? |
| 20:58:16 | Widget | Terminator: http://manila.potlatch.net/epic/getAnswer$GB+VR01 |
| 20:58:45 | Widget | Terminator: Or else I could vote in the next elections. :) |
| 20:58:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm voting stuff it goes on here too soon like next month or so |
| 21:00:00 | [TeA] | Night all ........ |
| 21:00:08 | Widget | Goodnight. |
| 21:02:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | Widget know anything about jh? |
| 21:06:09 | Widget | hihihi MysticOne. |
| 21:06:09 | MysticOne | hey guys, question ... the Windows client shouldn't have any problem talking to a Linux server, right? |
| 21:06:13 | MysticOne | hi Widget :) |
| 21:07:53 | paul | MysticOne: why would it? |
| 21:07:58 | paul | ie - no. |
| 21:08:24 | Widget | ibot: x de en Ich habe dieses alles voellig klar zurueckgewiesen. |
| 21:08:26 | | Widget: I rejected all this completely clearly. |
| 21:08:41 | MysticOne | paul: I dunno, friend of mine is using hte Windows client, I have a Linux server running, and it's telling him "Incompatible server version" |
| 21:08:59 | paul | which version bzfs and which version of bzflag? |
| 21:09:00 | Widget | What versions of each are you using? |
| 21:09:06 | MysticOne | 1.7e6 |
| 21:09:36 | Widget | Both? |
| 21:10:47 | MysticOne | yes |
| 21:11:44 | paul | impossible. |
| 21:12:41 | Widget | Bush will von seinen innenpolitischen Schwierigkeiten ablenken. Das ist eine beliebte Methode. Das hat auch Hitler schon gemacht. |
| 21:12:47 | paul | well, not impossible, but very unlikely. |
| 21:13:09 | paul | MysticOne: double check that your friend really is using 1.7. |
| 21:14:11 | MysticOne | paul: he is ... I'm not sure what the issue is :( |
| 21:14:32 | jzaun | Can someone whith java installed goto http://stats.bzflag.org/chat/ and tell me if it wokrs? |
| 21:14:49 | Widget | Eteria IRC client? |
| 21:14:55 | jzaun | yah |
| 21:14:57 | Widget | Loading Applet... |
| 21:15:04 | paul | MysticOne: the issue is that one of you is /not/ running 1.7. |
| 21:15:05 | jzaun | should auto conect to this channel |
| 21:16:15 | Widget | Pfft... it just went grey. |
| 21:16:38 | paul | MysticOne: when he connects to your server his client should print out "Server version: xxx" |
| 21:16:41 | paul | what is the xxx. |
| 21:16:48 | jzaun | hmm... should have connected to here :-( |
| 21:17:21 | MysticOne | paul: I don't think it's saying... hold, lemme wait for him to come back |
| 21:17:34 | jzaun | Widget: dolt, didn't give it the port, wanna try a reload? |
| 21:17:43 | Widget | jzaun: OK |
| 21:18:41 | Widget | OK, it says enter nick. |
| 21:18:47 | Widget | And it gives me a window and an input box. |
| 21:18:52 | Widget | And it's connected me to some channel. |
| 21:18:57 | paul | MysticOne: is one of you using the CVS version of bzflag? |
| 21:19:10 | MysticOne | paul: no |
| 21:19:10 | Widget | jzaun: It took me to channel #eirc |
| 21:19:13 | MysticOne | I have a Debian package of it |
| 21:19:22 | MysticOne | and now I can't connect to my own server... strange |
| 21:19:22 | jzaun | Widget: heh, thats not right |
| 21:19:24 | MysticOne | not sure what's wrong |
| 21:19:43 | jzaun | Widget: one last reload? |
| 21:19:49 | paul | MysticOne: what does it say if you run bzfs --help |
| 21:19:59 | paul | esp. for version and protocol. |
| 21:20:05 | Widget | jzaun: The requested URL was not found on this server. |
| 21:20:29 | jzaun | http://stats.bzflag.org/chat/ ? not found? |
| 21:21:17 | Widget | jzaun: Not found. |
| 21:21:22 | jzaun | joy |
| 21:23:24 | Widget | OK. |
| 21:23:27 | Widget | It's back. |
| 21:24:06 | Guest2017 | It works... |
| 21:24:13 | jzaun | Cool |
| 21:24:18 | Guest2017 | But not if I try it from outside the remote X-session. :( |
| 21:24:22 | Guest2017 | So it is really slow. |
| 21:24:36 | jzaun | not to fix it up... so it won't work from windows? |
| 21:24:52 | Guest2017 | I think its because IRC is blocked. |
| 21:25:02 | jzaun | that may be... |
| 21:25:08 | Guest2017 | From my home computer. |
| 21:25:30 | jzaun | anyone else in here wanna try http://stats.bzflag.org/chat/ out for me? |
| 21:27:16 | lurgyman | i will, hang on |
| 21:27:20 | Guest2017 | . |
| 21:27:56 | lurgyman | jzaun: just installing the plugin... |
| 21:28:11 | jzaun | lurgyman: ok shouldn't take long |
| 21:29:22 | paul | jzaun: File Not Found |
| 21:29:42 | paul | jzaun: now i get nothing |
| 21:29:59 | MysticOne | paul: 1.7e6 |
| 21:30:03 | jzaun | paul: could you try once more? |
| 21:30:38 | paul | jzaun: oh.. its java. nm. |
| 21:31:09 | paul | MysticOne: tell your friend to download the windows client from bzflag.org again. |
| 21:32:29 | lurgyman | jzaun: it loaded |
| 21:32:43 | lurgyman | but then it said it couldn't resolve irc.openprojects.net |
| 21:32:44 | jzaun | lurgyman: should connect you into this room |
| 21:33:02 | paul | bwt: |
| 21:33:08 | paul | btw, even: chat.ircnet.org |
| 21:33:14 | paul | web based irc client. |
| 21:33:15 | jzaun | hmm... looks like I'm gonna have to get my java woking to figure this out :-) |
| 21:33:19 | paul | no java needed either. |
| 21:33:20 | lurgyman | hmmm |
| 21:33:30 | lurgyman | probly |
| 21:33:38 | jzaun | paul: checking it out now |
| 21:34:17 | MysticOne | okay, stupid question time since I can't find it in the help ... my levels are coming up with no flags (I'm running bzfs from the commandline, within the client it won't let me specify a port) ... |
| 21:34:48 | MysticOne | so how do you make it have the weapon flags and stuff from the commandline? I don't see a specific option for it in the manpage |
| 21:34:56 | bzdoug | I will |
| 21:35:05 | bzdoug | oh |
| 21:35:24 | bzdoug | jzaun: you have CGI? |
| 21:35:32 | bzdoug | if you do, get cgiirc |
| 21:35:45 | bzdoug | its a irc client that runs on the server |
| 21:35:47 | jzaun | bzdoug: yes, I've looked at it, I dont' have the gigs of ram it would eatup |
| 21:35:52 | bzdoug | ha |
| 21:36:12 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 21:36:33 | MysticOne | anyone? |
| 21:37:05 | Widget | MysticOne: Do you want all the flags? |
| 21:37:13 | MysticOne | Widget: yes |
| 21:37:39 | iLLf8d | huh? |
| 21:37:42 | iLLf8d | gigs of ram |
| 21:37:52 | iLLf8d | you can run an irc server in almost no ram easily iirc |
| 21:38:00 | iLLf8d | i've had an irc server up and running on a few different occasions |
| 21:38:27 | bzdoug | no |
| 21:38:36 | bzdoug | its a CGI irc client |
| 21:38:44 | bzdoug | runs on the webserver |
| 21:38:51 | bzdoug | check out irc.chatnet.org |
| 21:39:01 | bzdoug | its based on CGI, no java |
| 21:39:22 | paul | bzdoug: uhmm do you mean chat.ircnet.org perhaps? |
| 21:39:24 | Widget | MysticOne: -s I think. |
| 21:39:34 | bzdoug | paul: hehe |
| 21:39:42 | bzdoug | that one |
| 21:39:51 | bzdoug | jzaun: neat huh? |
| 21:40:02 | jzaun | yah |
| 21:40:10 | MysticOne | paul: Error 42: Incompatible Version |
| 21:40:24 | Widget | MysticOne: But be sure to include either -sa, -st, or -sw along with -s. |
| 21:40:26 | MysticOne | paul: he just d/led it from one of the sourceforge links on bzflag.org |
| 21:40:33 | Widget | MysticOne: Or else once you pick up a bad flag, you'll always have it. |
| 21:40:37 | paul | MysticOne: that's really really strange. |
| 21:40:43 | MysticOne | Widget: got it, thanks :) |
| 21:40:47 | MysticOne | paul: I dunno what the deal is :( |
| 21:40:50 | Widget | MysticOne: Can others connect to your server? |
| 21:40:52 | jzaun_ | I would run this from my server, if someone would like to buy me a gig or two of ram... |
| 21:41:24 | bzdoug | jzaun: bid on my ram! |
| 21:41:34 | Terminator | i am back |
| 21:41:36 | jzaun_ | bzd |
| 21:41:36 | bzdoug | I have 1 gig of ram up ;) |
| 21:41:47 | bzdoug | jzaun_: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2053763746&rd=1 |
| 21:41:48 | Terminator | i bid 1 DOLLLLLLLAHHHHHHH!!!!! |
| 21:41:49 | jzaun_ | bzd, thats ok... really |
| 21:42:05 | bzdoug | jzaun: just trying to make money! |
| 21:42:06 | bzdoug | :P |
| 21:42:10 | jzaun_ | arg, no tab compleate in the irc client |
| 21:42:15 | bzdoug | nope |
| 21:42:56 | Terminator | is tired |
| 21:43:58 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:43:58 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 21:43:58 | bzbot | Satan'S Evil Twin (R): 0 (1-1). PIPPO (G): 10 (27-17). Flyer (R): -45 (44-89). Rick O'Shea (G): -8 (37-45). y o y o x (G): 21 (26-5). iluxa (R): 0 (29-29). Supermodel (R): 6 (30-24). |
| 21:44:31 | | Every except Terminator is nothing but a sheep-biting enema-bucketful of motley-mind poop. |
| 21:44:31 | Terminator | ibot insult Every except Terminator |
| 21:44:32 | bzdoug | wonders away |
| 21:44:44 | | Everyone exept me is nothing but a spur-galled bag of foul red dye number-9. |
| 21:44:44 | bzdoug | ibot insult Everyone exept me |
| 21:44:48 | bzdoug | hahah |
| 21:44:56 | | Everyone except Widget is nothing but a sheep-biting tongueful of it-fowling Stimpy-drool. |
| 21:44:56 | Widget | ibot: insult Everyone except Widget |
| 21:45:00 | | Everyone except Terminator is nothing but an halfbaked gob of pickled waffle-house grits. |
| 21:45:00 | Terminator | ibot insult Everyone except Terminator |
| 21:45:07 | | the whole world is nothing but an inept puddle of common-kissing urine samples. |
| 21:45:07 | bzdoug | ibot insult the whole world |
| 21:45:08 | Terminator | lol |
| 21:45:15 | bzdoug | yuk |
| 21:45:33 | Terminator | hmm dat reminds me |
| 21:45:40 | bzdoug | good |
| 21:45:46 | | ACTION pukes over bzdoug |
| 21:45:46 | bzdoug | ibot puke |
| 21:45:50 | bzdoug | yuk |
| 21:45:52 | Terminator | lol |
| 21:45:54 | | ACTION burps softly |
| 21:45:54 | bzdoug | ibot burp |
| 21:45:57 | | ACTION sings loudly |
| 21:45:57 | bzdoug | ibot sing |
| 21:46:00 | | The Korean War must have been fun. ... the MYSTERIANS are in here with my CORDUROY SOAP DISH!! |
| 21:46:00 | bzdoug | ibot yow |
| 21:46:10 | | idiot is you |
| 21:46:10 | Terminator | ibot idiot |
| 21:46:12 | | thanks Widget :) |
| 21:46:12 | Widget | ibot: botsnack |
| 21:46:35 | MysticOne | Widget: yes |
| 21:46:59 | | Terminator: excuse me? |
| 21:46:59 | Terminator | ibot u r dumb |
| 21:47:05 | | :) |
| 21:47:05 | bzdoug | ibot botsnack |
| 21:47:07 | | Terminator: excuse me? |
| 21:47:07 | Terminator | ibot nm |
| 21:47:18 | Widget | MysticOne: And can the Windows user connect to other servers? |
| 21:47:30 | | Everyone except Terminator is nothing but a porous mound of bawdy bat toenails. |
| 21:47:30 | Terminator | ibot insult Everyone except Terminator |
| 21:47:39 | Terminator | hehe |
| 21:47:58 | Terminator | ibto sing |
| 21:48:05 | | ACTION throws it back at bzdoug |
| 21:48:05 | bzdoug | ibot bots snack? |
| 21:48:08 | | Terminator: what? |
| 21:48:08 | Terminator | ibot sing quietly |
| 21:48:11 | Widget | ibto? |
| 21:48:12 | bzdoug | cool |
| 21:48:21 | bzdoug | Widget: its sister |
| 21:48:23 | bzdoug | :P |
| 21:48:33 | Terminator | huh? |
| 21:48:58 | bzdoug | 3 hours and 13 min left on my LCD screen |
| 21:49:07 | bzdoug | I am gonna snipe it |
| 21:49:10 | bzdoug | :) |
| 21:52:00 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:52:00 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 21:52:01 | bzbot | Serious Sam (R): -9 (5-14). PIPPO (G): 18 (47-29). Flyer (R): -63 (50-113). Rick O'Shea (G): -13 (45-58). y o y o x (G): 30 (51-21). Bobo Nana (G): 16 (26-10). bh (R): -7 (4-11). iluxa (R): -12 (39-51). |
| 21:58:23 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 21:58:58 | bzdoug | does anyone know if 2 diferent sized LCD panels on a laptop would work? |
| 21:59:03 | bzdoug | er |
| 21:59:14 | bzdoug | if I replaced a 14 inch with a 13 inch |
| 22:03:06 | lurgyman_ | oh, funny |
| 22:03:11 | lurgyman_ | it works |
| 22:10:37 | Widget | . |
| 22:11:24 | lurgyman_ | foognot |
| 22:24:41 | lurgyman_ | cheerio from web dealy |
| 22:47:15 | sussudio | well that whole DRI-xserver thing was a failure......... |
| 22:47:43 | sussudio | i tried the experimental branden debs for 4.2.1 and it's better, except it looks like a bad LSD trip when i turn lighting on |
| 22:52:25 | jzaun | captain_proton: you around? |
| 22:52:49 | sussudio | jzaun: can you put another map on the server...... my first or second one maybe? |
| 22:53:08 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:53:08 | jzaun | ibot jzaun |
| 22:53:09 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:53:33 | jzaun | sussudio: what id? http://stats.bzflag.org/maps.php |
| 22:53:44 | sussudio | err id? |
| 22:53:55 | jzaun | yah, the URL lists them all |
| 22:54:17 | sussudio | 28 or 29 |
| 22:54:29 | jzaun | 28 is up |
| 22:54:35 | sussudio | k thanks |
| 23:28:37 | sussudio | head spinning |
| 23:52:02 | scanline | is away: dinner and a movie |
