| 00:01:07 | jzaun | captain_proton: when yah think your have a pertty theme? :-) |
| 00:01:30 | | area code 412 is Pittsburgh, Indiana and Rochester, Pennsylvania |
| 00:01:30 | BZFlag | ibot: area code 412 |
| 00:01:40 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:01:46 | jzaun | Pittsburgh <-- Me |
| 00:01:49 | | area code 423 is Chattanooga, Knoxville and Kingsport, Tennessee |
| 00:01:49 | doughecka | ibot area code 423 |
| 00:01:52 | doughecka | woo |
| 00:01:56 | doughecka | neato |
| 00:02:10 | | jzaun: i'm not following you... |
| 00:02:10 | jzaun | ibot zipcode 15215 |
| 00:02:22 | | i guess zip 15215 is Pittsburgh Allegheny PA |
| 00:02:22 | BZFlag | ibot zip 15215 |
| 00:02:35 | | i think zip 15219 is Pittsburgh Allegheny PA |
| 00:02:35 | jzaun | ibot zip 15219 |
| 00:02:39 | | well, zip 40272 is Louisville Jefferson KY |
| 00:02:39 | doughecka | ibot zip 40272 |
| 00:02:43 | | Widget: what? |
| 00:02:43 | Widget | ibot: area code 111 |
| 00:02:43 | jzaun | heh, not very spesific |
| 00:02:51 | doughecka | Widget: pffff |
| 00:02:58 | | rumour has it zip 80310 is Boulder Boulder CO |
| 00:02:58 | captain_proton | ibot zip 80310 |
| 00:02:59 | Widget | There's no area code 111? |
| 00:02:59 | doughecka | Widget: its not gonna have NZ in it |
| 00:03:03 | Widget | How is it organised then? |
| 00:03:09 | doughecka | zip codes |
| 00:03:09 | captain_proton | hmm thats somewhat wrong |
| 00:03:11 | Widget | doughecka: We don't have area codes. |
| 00:03:14 | | doughecka: excuse me? |
| 00:03:14 | doughecka | ibot zip 11111 |
| 00:03:14 | captain_proton | that zip is the university :) |
| 00:03:24 | Widget | But is the university in Boulder CO? |
| 00:03:27 | captain_proton | yes |
| 00:03:35 | captain_proton | but its not 'boulder' in general |
| 00:03:38 | captain_proton | that zip is only for the uni |
| 00:03:38 | Widget | So it probably tells you what city the zip is in. |
| 00:03:39 | doughecka | bzflag, what other things does ibot know? |
| 00:03:50 | | Widget: what? |
| 00:03:50 | Widget | ibot: 20000 |
| 00:03:53 | | doughecka: huh? |
| 00:03:53 | doughecka | ibot zip NZ |
| 00:03:54 | | Widget: huh? |
| 00:03:54 | Widget | ibot: zip 20000 |
| 00:04:00 | | doughecka: sorry... |
| 00:04:00 | doughecka | ibot .nz |
| 00:04:02 | Widget | How are zip codes organised? |
| 00:04:07 | doughecka | I dunno |
| 00:04:09 | Widget | Do they start from 0 and go to whatever? |
| 00:04:12 | jzaun | Widget: badly |
| 00:04:17 | doughecka | state to state |
| 00:04:25 | doughecka | like KY is 40 something |
| 00:04:30 | captain_proton | he knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you've been bad or good... |
| 00:04:32 | doughecka | like 40272 |
| 00:04:35 | | Widget: huh? |
| 00:04:35 | Widget | ibot: zip 402373 |
| 00:04:37 | jzaun | Widget: no #####-####### First 5 are all thats needed though |
| 00:04:38 | doughecka | captain_proton: pfff |
| 00:04:50 | | Widget: excuse me? |
| 00:04:50 | Widget | ibot: zip 402373 |
| 00:04:57 | | Widget: huh? |
| 00:04:57 | Widget | ibot zip 402373 |
| 00:05:00 | captain_proton | 5 digits only Widget |
| 00:05:04 | | Widget: what? |
| 00:05:04 | Widget | ibot: zip 40237 |
| 00:05:08 | doughecka | laughs an evil scientist laugh |
| 00:05:10 | jzaun | ok.. bbiab StarTrek Season Final is on |
| 00:05:11 | Widget | Pfft. |
| 00:05:17 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:05:23 | Widget | looks for zip codes online. |
| 00:05:30 | doughecka | laughs |
| 00:05:34 | doughecka | Widget: erfdesk.com |
| 00:05:36 | doughecka | er |
| 00:05:39 | doughecka | refdesk.com |
| 00:05:43 | | zip 90210 is Beverly Hills Los Angeles CA |
| 00:05:43 | BZFlag | ibot: zip 90210 |
| 00:05:47 | | hmmm... zip 95014 is Cupertino Santa Clara CA |
| 00:05:47 | Widget | ibot: zip 95014 |
| 00:05:58 | | doughecka: bugger all, i dunno |
| 00:05:58 | doughecka | ibot webpal? |
| 00:05:58 | | rumour has it zip 90210 is Beverly Hills Los Angeles CA |
| 00:05:58 | jzaun | ibot zip 90210 |
| 00:06:00 | Widget | Why does it name two cities? |
| 00:06:24 | | OK, doughecka. |
| 00:06:24 | doughecka | ibot webpal.org is a nuc website, webpal.org |
| 00:06:24 | | BZFlag: excuse me? |
| 00:06:24 | BZFlag | ibot: area code 585 |
| 00:06:37 | | doughecka: huh? |
| 00:06:37 | doughecka | ibot area code for louisville |
| 00:06:39 | doughecka | bah |
| 00:06:40 | Widget | Does Canada have zip codes too? |
| 00:06:41 | doughecka | dumb thing |
| 00:06:42 | | OK, BZFlag. |
| 00:06:42 | BZFlag | ibot area code 585 is Rochester, NY |
| 00:06:54 | | ACTION kills all the morons |
| 00:06:54 | doughecka | ibot kill |
| 00:06:58 | doughecka | good |
| 00:07:01 | | BZFlag: huh? |
| 00:07:01 | BZFlag | ibot potal |
| 00:07:03 | | dont forget to order ibot's copy of postal from http://tuxgames.com |
| 00:07:03 | BZFlag | ibot postal |
| 00:07:06 | | zip 20500 is Washington District Of Columbia DC |
| 00:07:06 | Widget | ibot: zip 20500 |
| 00:07:08 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:07:11 | captain_proton | ibot's copy? |
| 00:07:25 | BZFlag | heh |
| 00:07:25 | | goodbye, doughecka. |
| 00:07:25 | doughecka | ibot part #bzflag |
| 00:07:44 | doughecka | COOOO |
| 00:07:46 | doughecka | l! |
| 00:08:02 | captain_proton | points at ibot and whispers to BZFlag |
| 00:08:04 | doughecka | laughs evily |
| 00:08:34 | JamesA | Can somewhat suggest a source for custom maps? |
| 00:08:37 | | /server irc.rt.ru |
| 00:08:37 | Widget | ibot: go away |
| 00:08:40 | jzaun | eh... its not the final :-( |
| 00:08:46 | BZFlag | ibot is in 19 different channels now, so I let folks "part" hime if they want. |
| 00:08:53 | jzaun | JamesA: sure |
| 00:08:53 | Widget | Ah. |
| 00:09:01 | jzaun | JamesA: my site in a few days |
| 00:09:03 | doughecka | BZFlag: good idea |
| 00:09:11 | BZFlag | Widget: nice try. ;-) |
| 00:09:13 | JamesA | (somewhat=someone) |
| 00:09:14 | jzaun | JamesA: there will be 32 or so |
| 00:09:34 | | ...but go away is <reply>/server irc.rt.ru... |
| 00:09:34 | doughecka | ibot go away is <reply> ibot part |
| 00:09:39 | doughecka | pf |
| 00:09:42 | BZFlag | heh |
| 00:09:48 | Widget | Does anyone know what is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500? |
| 00:10:01 | | ...but die is DADO, DADO, DADO!!!!... |
| 00:10:01 | doughecka | ibot die is <reply> ibot part |
| 00:10:03 | BZFlag | Widget: hopefully not a crater |
| 00:10:06 | jzaun | Widget: Yah |
| 00:10:11 | jzaun | Widget: I do |
| 00:10:19 | doughecka | BZFlag: hmm |
| 00:10:23 | jzaun | BZFlag: no email from ya yet :-( |
| 00:10:30 | | scanline: what? |
| 00:10:30 | scanline | ibot: join #bzflag |
| 00:10:33 | jzaun | JamesA: R you looking for a spesific map? |
| 00:10:43 | BZFlag | jzaun: sheesh. I better do some work first. |
| 00:10:44 | | scanline: what? |
| 00:10:44 | scanline | ibot: join #mynonexistantchannel |
| 00:10:48 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:10:59 | JamesA | jzaun: Not necessarily. We're just getting bored with the default map. |
| 00:11:02 | scanline | ibot: part #mynonexistantchannel |
| 00:11:03 | BZFlag | scanline: msg him from the channel. |
| 00:11:08 | jzaun | BZFlag: :-) just pullin yer leg.. can take as long as you like |
| 00:11:09 | scanline | ah |
| 00:11:12 | doughecka | inah |
| 00:11:17 | doughecka | its not allowed to join |
| 00:11:21 | scanline | ah, I see |
| 00:11:25 | JamesA | jzaun: Any suggestions? |
| 00:11:31 | doughecka | BZFlag: could you fix that? |
| 00:11:39 | BZFlag | oh, yeah, and he's not allowed to join a channel I don't tell him he can join. ;-) |
| 00:11:45 | jzaun | JamesA: checkout http://bzflag.jzaun.com/maps.shtml |
| 00:11:49 | doughecka | why? |
| 00:11:59 | jzaun | they arn't for dload yet but I can email you one if you like |
| 00:11:59 | doughecka | apt is also another ibot |
| 00:12:00 | Widget | Does anyone know what 10 Downing Street, London is? |
| 00:12:03 | doughecka | and apt2 |
| 00:12:12 | jzaun | JamesA: until the new site is up |
| 00:12:23 | scanline | runs an infobot too... they're neat |
| 00:12:26 | Widget | 10 Downing Street. Whitehall London SW1 |
| 00:12:27 | doughecka | yea |
| 00:12:44 | doughecka | all we need is a HAL bot |
| 00:12:45 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:12:53 | doughecka | then we would have lots of fun! |
| 00:13:07 | BZFlag | all "Not for Download" |
| 00:13:08 | scanline | I should do laundry... |
| 00:13:21 | doughecka | whew... |
| 00:13:27 | doughecka | I was smelling somethin... |
| 00:13:28 | Widget | doughecka: All right then, what is at 10 Downing Street, Whitehall, London SW1? |
| 00:13:28 | JamesA | jzaun: Excellent selection! |
| 00:13:34 | jzaun | BZFlag: yah its the old site... kinda stopped development of it |
| 00:13:42 | jzaun | BZFlag: working on the new one full time |
| 00:13:47 | doughecka | Widget: dont have the faintest idea |
| 00:14:04 | | doughecka: huh? |
| 00:14:04 | doughecka | ibot pig |
| 00:14:14 | jzaun | BZFlag: Working on the maps stuff now... People can upload just nothing is done with them yet |
| 00:14:16 | | OK, captain_proton. |
| 00:14:16 | captain_proton | ibot pig is US Plus! |
| 00:14:17 | doughecka | ibot x en de doug needs to learn german |
| 00:14:35 | doughecka | bah, ibot died |
| 00:14:38 | | doughecka: * What browser you were using. |
| 00:14:42 | doughecka | ? |
| 00:14:43 | Widget | HAHAHAHHAAA. |
| 00:14:47 | doughecka | WHO BROKE IBOT? |
| 00:15:03 | doughecka | ibot x de en hello |
| 00:15:05 | patlabor221 | I'm guessing you did |
| 00:15:09 | | ...but jzaun is <reply> bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155... |
| 00:15:09 | jzaun | ibot jzaun is Justin Zaun |
| 00:15:13 | | doughecka: * What browser you were using. |
| 00:15:16 | captain_proton | haha |
| 00:15:17 | doughecka | ? |
| 00:15:25 | patlabor221 | time to go to woek |
| 00:15:26 | doughecka | it was very handy |
| 00:15:26 | Widget | Deutsch muss Deutsch erlernen or something. |
| 00:15:28 | doughecka | patlabor221: cya |
| 00:15:31 | Widget | Er... |
| 00:15:34 | Widget | Doug muss Deutsch erlernen. |
| 00:15:43 | doughecka | er learnen? |
| 00:15:48 | doughecka | learn |
| 00:15:48 | captain_proton | checks to see what homework he has for tomorrow |
| 00:15:51 | doughecka | german |
| 00:15:55 | doughecka | muss? |
| 00:15:56 | doughecka | must |
| 00:15:59 | doughecka | doug? |
| 00:16:01 | doughecka | doug |
| 00:16:06 | doughecka | yippy, I know german! |
| 00:16:24 | | doughecka, I didn't have anything matching 'x de en' |
| 00:16:24 | doughecka | ibot forget x de en |
| 00:16:27 | doughecka | baah |
| 00:16:31 | doughecka | BZFlag: fix it? |
| 00:16:32 | captain_proton | heeeey |
| 00:16:34 | doughecka | :P |
| 00:16:34 | jzaun | Ich leibe BZFlag |
| 00:16:35 | captain_proton | nothing :) |
| 00:16:35 | Widget | ibot: x de en is hihihi |
| 00:16:44 | Widget | Gah. |
| 00:16:49 | Widget | It's trying to translate it. |
| 00:16:52 | doughecka | ibot x de en hallo |
| 00:16:53 | | Widget: is hihihi |
| 00:17:07 | | jzaun: excuse me? |
| 00:17:07 | jzaun | ibot ich |
| 00:17:08 | Widget | Kruziturken. |
| 00:17:10 | doughecka | hmmm |
| 00:17:10 | | doughecka: hello |
| 00:17:15 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:17:15 | Widget | Or whatever Dr. Müller says in Tintin. |
| 00:17:18 | mandy | hihihi widget |
| 00:17:25 | doughecka | TINTIN RULES! |
| 00:17:30 | | *^_^* |
| 00:17:30 | jzaun | ibot :-) |
| 00:17:34 | | doughecka: no idea |
| 00:17:34 | doughecka | ibot tintin? |
| 00:17:37 | | jzaun: sorry... |
| 00:17:37 | jzaun | ibot :-P |
| 00:17:47 | Widget | doughecka: Do you read Tintin? |
| 00:17:52 | doughecka | I did |
| 00:18:03 | doughecka | but they stopped the magzine |
| 00:18:05 | doughecka | that I got |
| 00:18:09 | doughecka | that had tintin in it |
| 00:18:10 | Widget | Magazine? |
| 00:18:12 | Widget | Oh. |
| 00:18:18 | doughecka | :( |
| 00:18:18 | Widget | Go buy the books. |
| 00:18:27 | doughecka | tsk, costs money |
| 00:18:28 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:18:39 | Widget | Didn't the magazine? |
| 00:18:41 | doughecka | anyway, I get garfield and dilbert in my email every day |
| 00:18:51 | doughecka | Widget: parents had it |
| 00:19:08 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 00:19:08 | doughecka | ibot jzaun? |
| 00:19:08 | JamesA | jzaun: Thanks. The thumbnails helped a bunch. I was able to pick a map that I saw on another server. |
| 00:19:09 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 00:19:24 | doughecka | whosi gonkulator{work}? |
| 00:19:26 | jzaun | JamesA: no problem |
| 00:19:49 | doughecka | sounds like a computer or robot... |
| 00:19:49 | mandy | lalala |
| 00:20:00 | captain_proton | d46 on bhaskara - anybody up for a game? |
| 00:20:12 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:20:13 | doughecka | decks? |
| 00:20:18 | JamesA | jzaun: I have a question - how come the custom maps come with .bat files? Do people really try and run servers under Windows?? |
| 00:20:19 | captain_proton | no, not decks |
| 00:20:20 | captain_proton | d46 |
| 00:20:21 | jzaun | captain_proton: what happened to homework |
| 00:20:25 | doughecka | kicks his broken computer |
| 00:20:33 | jzaun | JamesA: some people do |
| 00:20:40 | captain_proton | jzaun: already noticed i didn't have any uncompleted things to do |
| 00:20:42 | mandy | oh =\ |
| 00:20:44 | doughecka | JamesA: I runs servers under win2000 |
| 00:21:03 | jzaun | doughecka: and they work? |
| 00:21:05 | JamesA | doughecka: You've got balls |
| 00:21:06 | doughecka | d46? |
| 00:21:10 | captain_proton | yes |
| 00:21:12 | doughecka | sure |
| 00:21:14 | | jzaun: i'm not following you... |
| 00:21:14 | jzaun | ibot d46 |
| 00:21:15 | doughecka | it works |
| 00:21:18 | doughecka | never crashes |
| 00:21:26 | doughecka | pfffff right.... |
| 00:21:29 | | OK, jzaun. |
| 00:21:29 | jzaun | ibot d46 is Dinner For Six |
| 00:21:33 | doughecka | oh |
| 00:21:40 | | d46 is Dinner For Six |
| 00:21:40 | jzaun | ibot d46 |
| 00:21:40 | doughecka | thats booring |
| 00:21:49 | | lol is, like, a acronym that stands for Laugh Out Loud. Go to http://mankindvsme.50megs.com/windowsfan.html for more information |
| 00:21:49 | jzaun | ibot lol |
| 00:21:56 | | heh |
| 00:21:56 | doughecka | ibot hehe |
| 00:22:01 | | doughecka: sorry... |
| 00:22:01 | doughecka | ibot ha |
| 00:22:07 | | heh |
| 00:22:07 | doughecka | ibot haha |
| 00:22:08 | JamesA | Thanks again for the help. |
| 00:22:34 | | doughecka: sorry... |
| 00:22:34 | doughecka | ibot pork |
| 00:22:57 | | OK, doughecka. |
| 00:22:57 | doughecka | ibot pork is <reply> is gooooood |
| 00:23:01 | | is gooooood |
| 00:23:01 | doughecka | ibot pork |
| 00:23:11 | doughecka | I hope theres no jewish in here.... |
| 00:23:18 | doughecka | chuckles |
| 00:25:00 | doughecka | OH COOL! |
| 00:25:01 | jzaun | sorry captain_proton, my connection is acting up |
| 00:25:02 | doughecka | it works! |
| 00:25:22 | doughecka | http://mankindvsme.50megs.com/windowsfan.html try it out! |
| 00:25:56 | doughecka | boom |
| 00:26:43 | thetrooper | hiya |
| 00:26:54 | jzaun | yah |
| 00:27:03 | jzaun | but it crashed galeon too |
| 00:27:50 | jzaun | Hey thetrooper |
| 00:29:35 | mandy | welcome back |
| 00:30:04 | jzaun | mandy: Last seen on Sep 12 2002 01:53AM (GMT) at turkey.moongroup.com:7500. |
| 00:30:23 | jzaun | BZFlag: hey, you code ibot? |
| 00:30:25 | mandy | =\ |
| 00:31:43 | doughecka | hey patlabor221! |
| 00:31:46 | doughecka | what work are you at now? |
| 00:31:53 | patlabor221 | #2 |
| 00:31:56 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:31:59 | doughecka | the ebay one? |
| 00:32:03 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:32:21 | doughecka | the one with the drives at it? |
| 00:32:32 | doughecka | ducks |
| 00:32:34 | captain_proton | this tastes like pork |
| 00:32:38 | doughecka | ? |
| 00:33:00 | patlabor221 | no the drive is in my car |
| 00:33:07 | doughecka | oh |
| 00:33:09 | patlabor221 | but I took it from here |
| 00:33:10 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 00:33:19 | doughecka | wonderin |
| 00:33:27 | doughecka | captain_proton is wonderin too |
| 00:33:48 | captain_proton | oogly boogly |
| 00:34:31 | patlabor221 | I know I just have to put them in the boxes |
| 00:34:37 | mandy | lalala |
| 00:34:51 | | jzaun: what? |
| 00:34:51 | jzaun | ibot Justin Zuan |
| 00:34:52 | patlabor221 | I'v been super lazy |
| 00:34:57 | | jzaun: what? |
| 00:34:57 | jzaun | ibot Justin Zaun |
| 00:34:58 | captain_proton | wonders who catwoman was |
| 00:35:19 | | OK, jzaun. |
| 00:35:19 | jzaun | ibot Justin Zaun is The best, most kindest person I know! |
| 00:35:21 | jzaun | :-) |
| 00:35:37 | | Mr. Aphenphosmphobia |
| 00:35:37 | captain_proton | ibot captain_proton |
| 00:35:43 | doughecka | Ican see that |
| 00:36:28 | jzaun | captain_proton: you want my current theme.php to look at? |
| 00:37:02 | captain_proton | jzaun: indeed |
| 00:37:37 | jzaun | captain_proton: addr? |
| 00:38:01 | captain_proton | same as last time...or have you forgotten? |
| 00:38:27 | jzaun | captain_proton: no, just misplaced |
| 00:39:13 | captain_proton | actually |
| 00:39:18 | captain_proton | just tarball up the whole site |
| 00:39:25 | captain_proton | along with a mysql dump :) |
| 00:39:53 | jzaun | mysqldump would be megs and megs |
| 00:40:16 | captain_proton | try it and see |
| 00:40:20 | captain_proton | i can handle large attachments |
| 00:40:38 | jzaun | if you *really* need it I can send it to you |
| 00:40:48 | captain_proton | at least the table formats |
| 00:41:06 | captain_proton | do the dump then delete every line starting with INSERT :) |
| 00:41:10 | jzaun | Just 2 so far |
| 00:41:10 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:41:16 | jzaun | and they arn't even set in stone yet |
| 00:45:42 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-09-12 01:38:48 | Discarded AT&amp;T Microwave Bunkers For Sale | Canon Mistakenly Announces 11-Megapixel Digital Camera | Epson Pulls Linux Software Following GPL Violations | Comedy Central Cancels BattleBots |
| 00:45:42 | doughecka | ibot slashdot |
| 00:45:42 | | pong |
| 00:45:42 | doughecka | ibot ping |
| 00:45:49 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:46:49 | captain_proton | doughecka: open your farking web browser or do it in /msg, we don't need to see the /. headlines :P |
| 00:47:45 | doughecka | hm |
| 00:47:50 | doughecka | slashdot seems to be dead |
| 00:48:01 | doughecka | you try it |
| 00:48:08 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:48:11 | doughecka | its back up |
| 00:48:19 | captain_proton | in the last 18 hours you've said 'ibot slashdot' 6 times |
| 00:48:26 | doughecka | I have? |
| 00:48:28 | captain_proton | works fine for me |
| 00:48:29 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 00:48:31 | doughecka | neat |
| 00:48:36 | doughecka | make that 7 |
| 00:48:54 | doughecka | can you post to slashdot? |
| 00:48:55 | doughecka | I cant |
| 00:49:04 | captain_proton | why would anybody want to post to slashdot? ;) |
| 00:49:48 | doughecka | a comment |
| 00:49:54 | captain_proton | yeah i know |
| 00:50:07 | doughecka | Cat got your tongue? (something important seems to be missing from your comment ... like the body or the subject!) |
| 00:50:13 | doughecka | its broke |
| 00:50:26 | doughecka | nobody has posted yet, and its been up for 4 min |
| 00:50:41 | doughecka | there should be a FP!!!! |
| 00:50:46 | doughecka | at least... |
| 00:50:54 | patlabor221 | damn wanker FP poeple |
| 00:51:05 | doughecka | yea |
| 00:51:15 | captain_proton | oh no! /. is broken! whatever will i do? |
| 00:51:30 | patlabor221 | what will the punks do? |
| 00:51:33 | doughecka | sleep calmly |
| 00:51:49 | captain_proton | how can i be calm at a time like this? |
| 00:51:53 | patlabor221 | no you won't you and all your little script kiddie frined s will be upp all night talking about it |
| 00:52:04 | patlabor221 | and it will be the first think you check when you get up |
| 00:52:12 | doughecka | no |
| 00:52:16 | doughecka | I read my email first |
| 00:52:32 | patlabor221 | and dosn't that have the slashdot headlines in it? |
| 00:52:35 | doughecka | then I read slashdot |
| 00:52:40 | doughecka | well, yes |
| 00:52:44 | captain_proton | gnomedesktop.org and mozilla.org's RDF's have taken over from /. with me |
| 00:52:48 | doughecka | but I dont read the slashdot headlines in the email |
| 00:52:50 | patlabor221 | beacsu that's where "all important" thingk come from |
| 00:53:23 | doughecka | anyway.... |
| 00:53:31 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:53:44 | doughecka | my ps/2 mouse is on, but the computer is off |
| 00:53:51 | doughecka | its lit up |
| 00:54:01 | patlabor221 | the comp is asleep |
| 00:54:06 | patlabor221 | shhhhhh don't wake it |
| 00:54:06 | doughecka | nope |
| 00:54:13 | doughecka | its not blicking |
| 00:54:18 | doughecka | blinking |
| 00:54:30 | doughecka | wierd |
| 00:54:33 | patlabor221 | if it was off there would not be any power to the port |
| 00:54:39 | doughecka | wel |
| 00:54:42 | doughecka | its off |
| 00:54:44 | captain_proton | there might be |
| 00:54:48 | captain_proton | depends on the mobo |
| 00:54:54 | doughecka | and its got power to the ethernet card too |
| 00:54:56 | patlabor221 | true if it's got wake on mouse |
| 00:54:57 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:55:04 | patlabor221 | or wake on lan |
| 00:55:12 | captain_proton | i'd wake up if a mouse visited my bed |
| 00:56:02 | captain_proton | yay for xgoogle |
| 00:57:30 | patlabor221 | ick I was in 16 bit color, how can the be |
| 00:58:24 | iLLf8d | heh I was just banned for a cheat server LOL |
| 00:58:28 | iLLf8d | nice |
| 00:58:52 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:59:03 | captain_proton | banned for a cheat server? |
| 00:59:07 | doughecka | cheat server? |
| 00:59:09 | iLLf8d | banned from |
| 00:59:10 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 00:59:19 | doughecka | from a cheat server? |
| 00:59:24 | doughecka | what cheat server? |
| 00:59:27 | iLLf8d | yeah I noticed one or 2 are full ofem |
| 00:59:34 | doughecka | oh? |
| 00:59:40 | iLLf8d | like I'll join and get server messages |
| 00:59:49 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:59:50 | iLLf8d | and whenever I pick up a flag they drop it on me |
| 00:59:51 | iLLf8d | etc... |
| 00:59:53 | doughecka | let me go check it out |
| 00:59:54 | iLLf8d | over and over |
| 01:00:05 | iLLf8d | nah its been there for months and noone cares |
| 01:00:16 | iLLf8d | I usually go on there to taunt them |
| 01:00:19 | doughecka | haha |
| 01:00:31 | iLLf8d | I only get up to 3rd place or so usually tho there |
| 01:00:43 | iLLf8d | although I wipe the same people anywhere else usually |
| 01:00:47 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 01:01:08 | iLLf8d | today it was fourth place |
| 01:01:34 | iLLf8d | I messaged the server owner said nice 3 or 4 gms on field and I haven't gotten one in an hour or so |
| 01:01:41 | iLLf8d | the entire time I was playing |
| 01:01:44 | iLLf8d | he banned me after that |
| 01:01:44 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 01:02:15 | iLLf8d | cracks me up really tough to find another server heh, or run my own heh |
| 01:02:32 | captain_proton | what server? |
| 01:04:43 | doughecka | iLLf8d: JOIN MY SERVER! |
| 01:04:55 | doughecka | the 100 shot one and check out laser! |
| 01:04:58 | doughecka | n:) |
| 01:05:04 | doughecka | hurry up |
| 01:05:08 | iLLf8d | lol |
| 01:05:29 | doughecka | ouch |
| 01:05:33 | doughecka | bzflag burped |
| 01:08:40 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 01:08:43 | iLLf8d | that you in that hacked tank? |
| 01:08:54 | doughecka | yea, I was testing it |
| 01:08:54 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:08:56 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 01:09:01 | doughecka | its cells cheat |
| 01:09:02 | iLLf8d | looks cool on radar |
| 01:09:07 | doughecka | you get laser flag |
| 01:09:09 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:09:10 | doughecka | light show |
| 01:09:24 | doughecka | ok, I gotta try that on noodlemans blank map |
| 01:09:25 | doughecka | ;) |
| 01:09:29 | doughecka | poof |
| 01:09:35 | iLLf8d | actually i'm amazed that the 100 shots doesn't slow gameplay much |
| 01:09:40 | doughecka | it does |
| 01:09:48 | iLLf8d | yeah I expected it to do it more tho |
| 01:09:51 | doughecka | the server crashes if too many people join |
| 01:09:56 | iLLf8d | they must've fixed some of the code |
| 01:09:57 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:10:01 | doughecka | no |
| 01:10:03 | doughecka | I fixed it |
| 01:10:07 | doughecka | I changed one line |
| 01:10:18 | iLLf8d | I mean to keep it from slowing down alot |
| 01:10:22 | doughecka | oh |
| 01:10:24 | doughecka | maybe |
| 01:11:43 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:11:47 | doughecka | very neat though |
| 01:11:54 | doughecka | all it needs is a laser box |
| 01:12:10 | doughecka | then I can hide and shoot laser legaly |
| 01:12:15 | doughecka | 100 shot |
| 01:12:17 | doughecka | ;) |
| 01:14:30 | doughecka | hey Noodleman! |
| 01:14:37 | doughecka | notice any cheats latly? |
| 01:14:37 | Noodleman | hey! |
| 01:14:44 | Noodleman | nope |
| 01:14:57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:14:59 | doughecka | you should |
| 01:15:01 | Noodleman | have you gone to noodleroni.com today? |
| 01:15:04 | Noodleman | the website |
| 01:15:12 | doughecka | nope |
| 01:15:35 | doughecka | neat! |
| 01:15:38 | Noodleman | go to it |
| 01:15:39 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:15:45 | Noodleman | cool huh? |
| 01:16:04 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:16:10 | doughecka | and bzflag.noodleroni.com? |
| 01:16:33 | Noodleman | there's a link at the bottom of all the *.noodleroni.com to that page |
| 01:16:40 | doughecka | Noodleman: check out your 100 shot server |
| 01:16:46 | Noodleman | ok |
| 01:16:48 | Noodleman | brb |
| 01:22:36 | doughecka | ack |
| 01:22:39 | doughecka | brb Noodleman |
| 01:26:56 | Widget | just learned a new word. |
| 01:27:01 | Widget | "kitsch" |
| 01:27:12 | doughecka | oh? |
| 01:55:26 | jzaun | Hello Noodleman |
| 01:55:51 | doughecka | hehe |
| 01:56:04 | doughecka | hes playing the 100 shot server |
| 01:56:15 | jzaun | ooh... so am I |
| 01:56:18 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:56:38 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 01:56:50 | doughecka | I got a new map |
| 01:56:56 | doughecka | he has not put it up yet |
| 01:57:02 | doughecka | its updated |
| 02:04:45 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:04:58 | doughecka | hehe |
| 02:05:47 | Noodleman | bzdoug:, you here? |
| 02:06:12 | | bzdoug was last seen on #bzflag 5 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying: is away: shcoole [Fri Sep 6 14:18:27 2002] |
| 02:06:12 | Noodleman | ibot seen bzdoug |
| 02:06:23 | | doughecka was last seen on #bzflag 1 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: hehe [Thu Sep 12 03:04:58 2002] |
| 02:06:23 | Noodleman | ibot seen doughecka |
| 02:06:35 | Noodleman | doughecka, you here? |
| 02:07:34 | iLLf8d | hey Noodleman you really need an ehh |
| 02:07:49 | iLLf8d | thumbs up thumbs down a few i'm neutral on in the ratings |
| 02:09:05 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:09:26 | iLLf8d | cool fields tho |
| 02:09:31 | iLLf8d | different then those i've seen |
| 02:09:31 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:09:34 | doughecka | like mine? |
| 02:09:44 | iLLf8d | yeah its a bit spartan but I like it |
| 02:09:55 | iLLf8d | I voted a thumbs up |
| 02:09:58 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:10:01 | doughecka | spartan? |
| 02:10:05 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 02:10:52 | iLLf8d | simple |
| 02:10:57 | iLLf8d | spartan=simple |
| 02:11:46 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:11:47 | doughecka | well |
| 02:11:50 | doughecka | I updated it |
| 02:11:55 | doughecka | so its all blue! |
| 02:11:57 | doughecka | : |
| 02:11:58 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:11:59 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 02:12:07 | doughecka | and more teleports |
| 02:12:13 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 02:12:21 | doughecka | you should see the bzedit |
| 02:12:27 | doughecka | its rather neay |
| 02:12:27 | iLLf8d | hey I should put taht thing in my shitty code forya right now heh |
| 02:12:34 | doughecka | ah, thanks |
| 02:12:35 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:12:38 | doughecka | I need trees |
| 02:12:39 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:12:48 | doughecka | takes me 5 min to make 3 trees |
| 02:12:49 | iLLf8d | want a maze? |
| 02:12:52 | doughecka | sure |
| 02:12:55 | iLLf8d | ok |
| 02:13:00 | doughecka | everything you got.. :P |
| 02:13:08 | doughecka | if its not too much |
| 02:13:10 | doughecka | heh |
| 02:13:25 | iLLf8d | well alot of my worlds I don't like to release |
| 02:13:32 | iLLf8d | tho to be honest you can capture any you like heh |
| 02:13:32 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 02:16:13 | lurgyman | |-> |
| 02:17:18 | iLLf8d | http://home.earthlink.net/~nix4ever/files/testmaze.bzw |
| 02:17:23 | iLLf8d | thats a maze it generated |
| 02:18:26 | patlabor221 | is back: (away:a:bit) |
| 02:19:39 | doughecka | ok |
| 02:19:41 | patlabor221 | doug: is the newest version of the editor running ok? stable and all? |
| 02:19:48 | iLLf8d | boy |
| 02:19:50 | iLLf8d | thats interesting |
| 02:19:51 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:19:55 | iLLf8d | those terrain maps |
| 02:19:56 | doughecka | its never crashed |
| 02:20:05 | iLLf8d | they cause a server error |
| 02:20:08 | patlabor221 | ok, it's the first thing I made with the new platform SDK libs. |
| 02:20:23 | iLLf8d | patlabor221: you know c++? |
| 02:20:25 | doughecka | oh? |
| 02:20:26 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:20:35 | patlabor221 | that is what I made the editor in |
| 02:20:42 | iLLf8d | any chance you could look at my terrain mapper and fix the stuff i'm doing really stupidly heh |
| 02:20:44 | captain_proton | liar! |
| 02:20:51 | captain_proton | its written in fortran and you know it |
| 02:20:54 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 02:21:05 | patlabor221 | visual fortran thank you very much |
| 02:21:06 | doughecka | and implement it into bzedit? |
| 02:21:10 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:21:29 | doughecka | iLLf8d: you use macs? |
| 02:21:34 | patlabor221 | as a plugin perhaps |
| 02:21:41 | doughecka | cool |
| 02:21:53 | iLLf8d | no no macs here |
| 02:21:57 | patlabor221 | ohh that would make cappy mad, plugin functions |
| 02:21:58 | doughecka | oh |
| 02:22:08 | doughecka | yes it would |
| 02:22:21 | captain_proton | i was thinking of implementing a scripting interface |
| 02:22:28 | scanline | python! |
| 02:22:44 | captain_proton | i dunno python |
| 02:22:45 | doughecka | its all up on his site |
| 02:22:53 | doughecka | yea! |
| 02:22:54 | scanline | better than Object Pascal, or Fortran Embedded :P |
| 02:22:59 | doughecka | python would be great |
| 02:23:06 | iLLf8d | this is my code actually |
| 02:23:08 | iLLf8d | http://home.earthlink.net/~nix4ever/files/TerrainBuilder.cc |
| 02:23:11 | iLLf8d | probably horrible code |
| 02:23:12 | doughecka | I know my way around python |
| 02:23:19 | patlabor221 | I was just gonna make DLLs so that it could be exported to any language |
| 02:23:19 | captain_proton | was thinking perl ala gimp |
| 02:23:24 | iLLf8d | still having a hard time getting a grip on oo programming |
| 02:23:33 | iLLf8d | python alagimp =) |
| 02:23:44 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:23:45 | iLLf8d | likes python too |
| 02:23:49 | doughecka | simple |
| 02:23:57 | doughecka | and can make huge numbers |
| 02:24:47 | doughecka | ow |
| 02:24:56 | doughecka | bzedit crashed on your map iLLf8d |
| 02:25:00 | doughecka | testmaze |
| 02:25:14 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 02:25:18 | iLLf8d | may need the other one |
| 02:25:19 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 02:25:23 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:25:23 | doughecka | pl |
| 02:25:25 | doughecka | ok |
| 02:25:27 | iLLf8d | that might have a bug |
| 02:25:35 | iLLf8d | lemme get the other one forya |
| 02:25:49 | doughecka | ow |
| 02:25:55 | doughecka | maze is broke too |
| 02:26:10 | doughecka | valley is broke too |
| 02:26:20 | iLLf8d | no thats the one |
| 02:26:20 | patlabor221 | look at the text file and see if it's valid |
| 02:26:28 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:26:28 | iLLf8d | no maze and valley arn't fields |
| 02:26:31 | doughecka | oh? |
| 02:26:35 | iLLf8d | they're maps for the terrain mapper |
| 02:26:35 | doughecka | they arnt? |
| 02:26:38 | doughecka | ooh |
| 02:26:40 | doughecka | hehe |
| 02:26:43 | doughecka | thats why |
| 02:26:51 | doughecka | wheres the terrain mapper? |
| 02:26:53 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:27:22 | doughecka | heres valley.map: |
| 02:27:30 | doughecka | <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final |
| 02:27:34 | doughecka | ho ho ho |
| 02:27:59 | doughecka | ooh |
| 02:28:00 | doughecka | :( |
| 02:28:11 | doughecka | testmaze has all the returns missing |
| 02:28:12 | captain_proton | oh my |
| 02:28:16 | captain_proton | from the latest campus spam: |
| 02:28:21 | captain_proton | --- Wanna Start Something? |
| 02:28:21 | captain_proton | --- Want to Quit Smoking/Chewing |
| 02:29:12 | doughecka | bah |
| 02:29:18 | lurgyman | That's right. Don't go cold turkey. Go cold pork instead. |
| 02:29:23 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:29:33 | lurgyman | Pork. Breakfast of champions |
| 02:29:50 | doughecka | its whats for dinner |
| 02:30:02 | lurgyman | Don't leave home without it. |
| 02:30:31 | doughecka | is thinking quickly of something to say |
| 02:31:14 | doughecka | hm |
| 02:31:24 | lurgyman | Like a rock. |
| 02:31:36 | lurgyman | Some things you can't buy. For everything else, there's pork. |
| 02:31:38 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:31:58 | lurgyman | Kid tested, mother approved. |
| 02:32:12 | doughecka | laama approved |
| 02:32:19 | lurgyman | Amen. |
| 02:32:28 | doughecka | AHHHHHHHHMMEEEEEN |
| 02:32:45 | lurgyman | Apork. |
| 02:33:05 | lurgyman | Pork. Where do you want to go today? |
| 02:33:08 | doughecka | a small step for pig, a large step for pigkind |
| 02:33:27 | lurgyman | A lobster saved, a lobster earned. |
| 02:33:53 | doughecka | haaa |
| 02:34:25 | lurgyman | Managing pork for people with other things to think about. |
| 02:34:38 | lurgyman | The beauty of all-wheel pork. |
| 02:34:51 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:34:58 | lurgyman | Is it gas? Is it electric? Pork. |
| 02:35:19 | doughecka | its a plane! its a bird! its SUPERPORK!!! |
| 02:35:41 | lurgyman | Our mission: to boldly go where no pork has gone before |
| 02:35:45 | doughecka | got your map open iLLf8d |
| 02:35:55 | doughecka | lurgyman: where you getting all this stuff? |
| 02:36:06 | lurgyman | who knows? |
| 02:36:16 | lurgyman | the llama instant randomiety generator, maybe |
| 02:36:17 | doughecka | hehe |
| 02:36:29 | lurgyman | It was our last, best chance for pork. It failed. |
| 02:36:40 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:36:40 | iLLf8d | cool |
| 02:36:55 | doughecka | 629 boxes.. |
| 02:36:59 | doughecka | SHEESH! |
| 02:37:05 | lurgyman | Now, it has become something better; our last, best chance for lobster. |
| 02:37:35 | doughecka | lobsters lurgyman |
| 02:38:02 | lurgyman | doughecka: i'll lobster you |
| 02:38:07 | lurgyman | upside the head |
| 02:38:10 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:38:25 | doughecka | porkrinds.... the next BIG thing |
| 02:38:29 | lurgyman | hhe |
| 02:39:38 | Noodleman | ok, i'm BACK! heheh |
| 02:39:58 | lurgyman | I am not pork! I am a FREE MAN! |
| 02:40:05 | lurgyman | Bwa ha ha ha ha ha! |
| 02:40:07 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:40:16 | doughecka | Noodleman: :) |
| 02:40:16 | Noodleman | may the pork be with you |
| 02:40:19 | lurgyman | We want... pork |
| 02:40:23 | lurgyman | YOU WON'T GET IT |
| 02:40:31 | lurgyman | pork |
| 02:40:32 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 02:40:38 | lurgyman | is there anything it can't do? |
| 02:40:42 | doughecka | go ahead, make my pork |
| 02:40:43 | lurgyman | (the answer is no) |
| 02:40:48 | doughecka | oh |
| 02:40:49 | doughecka | no |
| 02:40:57 | scanline | becomes perpetually confused by lurgyman |
| 02:41:05 | scanline | 's head explodes |
| 02:41:22 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:41:27 | captain_proton | goes to look at the mess |
| 02:41:29 | Noodleman | may the fork be with you |
| 02:41:39 | Noodleman | may the horse be with you |
| 02:41:46 | doughecka | forks pork |
| 02:42:00 | Noodleman | may the dork (doughecka) be with you |
| 02:42:02 | Noodleman | :-P |
| 02:42:10 | captain_proton | haha |
| 02:42:29 | lurgyman | I'm a doctor, not pork |
| 02:42:29 | Noodleman | does he think that funny? |
| 02:42:49 | captain_proton | what time is it eckles/ |
| 02:42:51 | captain_proton | ? |
| 02:43:01 | lurgyman | hang on, i've got it written down on a piece of pork |
| 02:43:14 | lurgyman | french horns |
| 02:43:21 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:43:26 | captain_proton | 's head explodes |
| 02:43:26 | Noodleman | My name is Noodleman, and I am pork. My name is Noodleman, and *I* am pork. My name is Noodleman, and *I am pork*. |
| 02:43:42 | Noodleman | To Tell The Truth!! |
| 02:43:55 | lurgyman | To tell the pork! |
| 02:44:00 | lurgyman | WHERE AM I? |
| 02:44:04 | lurgyman | In the pork |
| 02:44:05 | captain_proton | INFORMATION |
| 02:44:14 | lurgyman | PORK |
| 02:44:14 | Noodleman | Ask the *pork* !!!! |
| 02:44:15 | lurgyman | PORK |
| 02:44:29 | lurgyman | By hook or by pork, we will |
| 02:44:39 | lurgyman | WHO IS NUMBER ONE? |
| 02:44:44 | lurgyman | You are pork. |
| 02:45:01 | Noodleman | lovely pork, wonderful pork, lovely pork, wonderful pork... |
| 02:45:08 | lurgyman | Emergency. Emergency. There's an emergency going on. |
| 02:45:25 | doughecka | spam spam spam spam spam spam baked bean spam spam spam |
| 02:45:26 | lurgyman | You are, and shall always be, my pork |
| 02:45:43 | lurgyman | He's pork, Jim |
| 02:45:53 | doughecka | spam, its whats for breakfast |
| 02:46:15 | lurgyman | This message brought to you by the colorado ketchup council |
| 02:46:23 | doughecka | hohoho |
| 02:46:27 | Noodleman | pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork, pork! |
| 02:46:30 | lurgyman | merry christmas |
| 02:46:38 | Widget | DEAR CAPTAIN_PROTON STOP HAMSTERS ARE RAMPANT STOP PLEASE ADVISE STOP WIDGET |
| 02:46:48 | lurgyman | pork |
| 02:46:54 | lurgyman | stop |
| 02:47:09 | Noodleman | Enjoy ice-cold pork! |
| 02:47:16 | lurgyman | ADVICE COMING PORK WATCH OUT PORK THE LLAMAS ARE OUT TO GET YOU PORK LURGY |
| 02:47:48 | Noodleman | What the pork heck are you pork talking prok about? |
| 02:48:01 | lurgyman | America spells pork *K*R*A*F*T* |
| 02:48:15 | scanline | SPAM! |
| 02:48:33 | lurgyman | on a stick |
| 02:48:34 | doughecka | PIG!!! |
| 02:48:35 | lurgyman | plus tax |
| 02:48:37 | lurgyman | like a fox |
| 02:48:39 | doughecka | PIG ON A STICK! |
| 02:48:45 | lurgyman | plus tax |
| 02:48:49 | lurgyman | like a fox |
| 02:48:49 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:48:53 | Noodleman | spam, spam, lovely spam, spam, spam, wonderful spam |
| 02:49:18 | doughecka | SPAAAAM!!! |
| 02:49:22 | lurgyman | exorcise... |
| 02:49:50 | lurgyman | A funny thing happened to me on the way to the inquisition. |
| 02:50:25 | doughecka | yyyeaa? |
| 02:50:42 | Noodleman | pickles, kumquats, and... |
| 02:50:45 | Noodleman | pork |
| 02:51:16 | doughecka | READER WABBIT! |
| 02:51:50 | Noodleman | SPAM == Stuff Posing as Meat |
| 02:52:02 | doughecka | ROFL |
| 02:52:59 | Noodleman | pork, pork, pork! |
| 02:53:35 | doughecka | Physicians Pork reference |
| 02:54:47 | Noodleman | Logispam PorkMan Opipork |
| 02:55:08 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:55:21 | Noodleman | PORK MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANN! |
| 02:55:35 | | goodbye, doughecka. |
| 02:55:35 | doughecka | ibot part #bzflag |
| 02:55:48 | doughecka | cool eh? |
| 02:55:54 | Widget | Is muchly a word? |
| 02:56:09 | Noodleman | weird, how the pork do you make him stay the porm spam out? |
| 02:56:22 | Noodleman | pork pork |
| 02:56:34 | doughecka | how about BEEF! |
| 02:56:52 | Noodleman | beef just isn't pork funny |
| 02:57:04 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:57:13 | doughecka | CAT! TASTES LIKE CHICKEN! |
| 02:57:26 | Noodleman | everything tastes like chicken |
| 02:57:30 | Noodleman | except pork!!!! |
| 02:57:34 | doughecka | WOO |
| 02:57:34 | Noodleman | and spam!!!! |
| 02:57:38 | doughecka | and BEEF NOT!!! |
| 02:57:48 | doughecka | or BEEF SNOT! |
| 02:57:55 | scanline | Spam-- |
| 02:57:58 | | spam has karma of -2 |
| 02:57:58 | scanline | ibot: karma spam |
| 02:58:02 | Noodleman | pOrk SPaM |
| 02:58:04 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:58:16 | doughecka | spamalamdingdong |
| 02:58:18 | | pork has neutral karma |
| 02:58:18 | Noodleman | ibot: karma pork |
| 02:58:21 | | pork + has neutral karma |
| 02:58:21 | Noodleman | ibot: karma pork + |
| 02:58:26 | | pork plus has neutral karma |
| 02:58:26 | Noodleman | ibot: karma pork plus |
| 02:58:38 | Noodleman | ok... |
| 02:58:44 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:58:49 | doughecka | ++ |
| 02:58:53 | Noodleman | PORK PLUS, the breakfast of champions |
| 02:59:13 | | noodleman has karma of 4 |
| 02:59:13 | Noodleman | ibot: karma Noodleman |
| 02:59:16 | Noodleman | yeah! |
| 02:59:22 | | doughecka has karma of -1 |
| 02:59:22 | Widget | ibot: karma doughecka |
| 02:59:26 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:59:26 | | widget has karma of 1 |
| 02:59:26 | Widget | ibot: karma Widget |
| 02:59:28 | Widget | Wow. |
| 02:59:32 | Widget | Who upkarmad me? |
| 02:59:35 | Widget | ibot: widget-- |
| 02:59:39 | doughecka | woo |
| 02:59:41 | | widget has karma of 1 |
| 02:59:41 | Widget | ibot: karma Widget |
| 02:59:44 | Widget | Psh. |
| 02:59:46 | | doughecka has karma of -1 |
| 02:59:46 | doughecka | ibot karma for doughecka |
| 02:59:50 | doughecka | yay! |
| 02:59:54 | doughecka | -1! |
| 03:00:03 | | scanline has neutral karma |
| 03:00:03 | scanline | ibot: karma scanline |
| 03:00:36 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/code/tbulder.zip |
| 03:00:43 | captain_proton | yaaay |
| 03:00:45 | Noodleman | brb |
| 03:00:47 | Widget | ibot: scanline++ |
| 03:00:51 | | scanline has karma of 1 |
| 03:00:51 | Widget | ibot: karma scanline |
| 03:00:53 | captain_proton | my roommate and i are recording the theme muzak to blakes7 :) |
| 03:00:54 | patlabor221 | that's the your code iLLf*d |
| 03:01:09 | patlabor221 | cleaned up and made to work on windows |
| 03:01:14 | patlabor221 | I have no clue if it works or not |
| 03:01:21 | doughecka | ouch |
| 03:01:26 | patlabor221 | as I don't have an input file |
| 03:01:33 | doughecka | ok |
| 03:01:37 | doughecka | testing it |
| 03:01:38 | patlabor221 | doug do you know how it's suposed to work? |
| 03:01:54 | doughecka | yea |
| 03:01:56 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 03:01:58 | doughecka | he told me |
| 03:02:00 | scanline | Widget++ |
| 03:02:03 | | widget has karma of 2 |
| 03:02:03 | scanline | ibot: karma widget |
| 03:02:06 | patlabor221 | removed a bunch of redundnant code too |
| 03:02:16 | scanline | holy cow... |
| 03:02:18 | scanline | <PicoBot> scanline has karma of 227 |
| 03:02:19 | patlabor221 | like main |
| 03:02:22 | patlabor221 | everyone has main |
| 03:02:22 | doughecka | no binary? |
| 03:02:33 | patlabor221 | there are a debug and release bins in there too |
| 03:02:41 | doughecka | ohoh |
| 03:02:47 | patlabor221 | so you don't have to build |
| 03:02:55 | doughecka | ok |
| 03:03:23 | patlabor221 | it seems to be looking for terrain.map as an input file |
| 03:03:53 | doughecka | ok |
| 03:03:59 | patlabor221 | it outputs to stdio so you will proalby want to pipe it to a file |
| 03:04:07 | doughecka | k |
| 03:04:07 | iLLf8d | doughecka: you need to tell it to generate default.map first |
| 03:04:08 | doughecka | how? |
| 03:04:14 | doughecka | iLLf8d: how? |
| 03:04:19 | doughecka | ok |
| 03:04:23 | iLLf8d | ok |
| 03:04:23 | doughecka | I got it running |
| 03:04:27 | doughecka | how do I pipe it? |
| 03:04:37 | patlabor221 | app.exe -> text.txt |
| 03:04:49 | doughecka | ok |
| 03:05:06 | patlabor221 | way cooler then a 'nix pipe :) |
| 03:05:13 | patlabor221 | just in athestics tho |
| 03:05:18 | patlabor221 | wayyyy less usefull |
| 03:05:18 | doughecka | haha |
| 03:05:19 | doughecka | yea |
| 03:07:50 | doughecka | hmm |
| 03:07:52 | doughecka | ok |
| 03:07:54 | doughecka | I did |
| 03:08:49 | patlabor221 | time to go home |
| 03:08:54 | doughecka | ok |
| 03:09:11 | doughecka | ibot message for patlabor221: it works great! |
| 03:09:23 | doughecka | ok |
| 03:09:29 | doughecka | I got the default map |
| 03:09:32 | doughecka | editing..... |
| 03:10:50 | Widget | I saved this little gem: |
| 03:10:53 | Widget | Houdt astublieft uw hoofd niet uit het raampje als de trein rijdt. |
| 03:11:08 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 03:16:21 | scanline | woo that was fast for an 8MB file |
| 03:17:02 | captain_proton | scanline: whats this? |
| 03:17:16 | scanline | captain_proton: I dunno.. something my friend Kris let me borrow |
| 03:19:24 | scanline | cringes at the audio quality of this |
| 03:19:45 | captain_proton | its a divx video out through my sound card to the line-in of my roommates and recorded |
| 03:19:49 | captain_proton | then mp3 encoded :) |
| 03:19:54 | scanline | screams and runs away |
| 03:19:59 | captain_proton | a video of a early 60's tv show |
| 03:20:10 | scanline | bet you could have extracted the audio with mencoder |
| 03:20:27 | scanline | divx is usually already in mp3 anyway |
| 03:20:49 | lurgyman | mp4 |
| 03:20:56 | captain_proton | so mp3 -> wav -> analog -> wav -> mp3 |
| 03:20:58 | scanline | no, the audio is in mp3 |
| 03:21:26 | captain_proton | the audio quality of the recording isn't noticibly worse than the show it was extracted from |
| 03:21:30 | scanline | listens to the rest of Kris' DJ Crystal Creek CD |
| 03:21:31 | lurgyman | mp3 > bmp > txt > gif > jpeg > tiff > llama > mp4 > mp3 |
| 03:22:03 | captain_proton | lets see mencoder do THAT |
| 03:22:16 | lurgyman | i'll do it by hand |
| 03:22:22 | scanline | heh.. zbuffer artifacts |
| 03:22:26 | captain_proton | hands lurgyman a 4-function calculator |
| 03:22:28 | scanline | mv foo.mp3 foo.bmp |
| 03:22:32 | scanline | mv foo.bmp foo.txt |
| 03:22:37 | scanline | mv foo.txt foo.gif |
| 03:22:37 | scanline | :P |
| 03:22:43 | lurgyman | cat /dev/urandom > foo.mp3 |
| 03:22:51 | scanline | oh yes, forgot that step |
| 03:23:31 | Noodleman | ok, he's gone |
| 03:23:34 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 03:23:42 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:43 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:45 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:46 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:48 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:49 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:51 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:52 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:53 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:23:54 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:54 | captain_proton | Noodleman: farking stop it now |
| 03:23:55 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:23:55 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:23:55 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:55 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:23:56 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:23:56 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:23:56 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:23:57 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:23:58 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:23:59 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:00 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:00 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:24:02 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:02 | lurgyman | pork-- |
| 03:24:03 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:05 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:06 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:08 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:09 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:11 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:12 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:14 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:16 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:19 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:20 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:22 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:25 | Noodleman | patlabor221-- |
| 03:24:27 | Noodleman | ok |
| 03:24:28 | Noodleman | i would have done it in private |
| 03:24:34 | | Noodleman: excuse me? |
| 03:24:34 | Noodleman | ibot wouldn't let me |
| 03:24:35 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 03:24:41 | Noodleman | shut up ibot |
| 03:24:42 | captain_proton | Noodleman: it DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER |
| 03:24:54 | Noodleman | language |
| 03:24:59 | captain_proton | nobody cares about their karma |
| 03:25:05 | captain_proton | and flooding the channel with it is useless |
| 03:25:16 | lurgyman | unlike pork |
| 03:25:36 | Noodleman | PORK!! |
| 03:26:03 | scanline | oh yikes... it's rendering each pixel of each character as a quad... |
| 03:26:11 | scanline | darn you font engine, use textures! |
| 03:26:29 | lurgyman | you know what else uses textures? pork |
| 03:26:36 | captain_proton | scanline: what font engine? |
| 03:26:42 | scanline | captain_proton: picogui |
| 03:26:46 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:26:55 | scanline | I did a dangerous thing, and tried running the textbox widget under opengl |
| 03:27:10 | lurgyman | better than running it under pork |
| 03:27:15 | scanline | stupid thing is getting 12FPS on my GF3 card |
| 03:27:23 | lurgyman | pbthththfa |
| 03:28:01 | captain_proton | wtf were you karmaing patlabor for anyway? |
| 03:28:06 | lurgyman | don't make me get out my ghetto blaster |
| 03:28:29 | Noodleman | he needs to switch to linux and take a poop |
| 03:28:35 | Noodleman | his attitude would clear up :-) |
| 03:28:39 | Noodleman | ask doug |
| 03:28:44 | captain_proton | i see nothing wrong with his attitude |
| 03:28:56 | captain_proton | and using windows isn't a crime |
| 03:29:13 | Noodleman | you weren't here yesterday when he had an attitude |
| 03:29:28 | lurgyman | smacks willy gates upside the head |
| 03:29:29 | Noodleman | no, but linux wouldn't frustrate him so much |
| 03:29:39 | captain_proton | um |
| 03:29:53 | lurgyman | oommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... ommmmmmmmmmmm..... |
| 03:29:53 | captain_proton | you obviously haven't been here when linux won't even install for him |
| 03:30:19 | Noodleman | maybe he should choose a better distribution |
| 03:30:25 | captain_proton | like? |
| 03:30:33 | lurgyman | like Gentoo Hatware |
| 03:30:39 | Noodleman | redhat or mandrake for instance |
| 03:30:41 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 03:30:53 | captain_proton | he was trying to install redhat |
| 03:30:57 | captain_proton | :P |
| 03:31:01 | lurgyman | or United Yellian |
| 03:31:03 | Noodleman | which version? |
| 03:31:06 | Noodleman | do you know? |
| 03:31:07 | captain_proton | 7.3 |
| 03:31:19 | Widget | Headrat. |
| 03:31:25 | captain_proton | i've never seen him with an attitude - ever - in the last 9 months or so... |
| 03:31:25 | Noodleman | 7.3 installs evertime without hangups for me |
| 03:31:35 | Noodleman | even over the pfone with a windows newbie |
| 03:31:36 | captain_proton | and such, i believe its just you having too thin a skin |
| 03:31:54 | lurgyman | thicken it up with pork |
| 03:32:23 | Noodleman | didn't bother me really, just thought i'd be a little turd ;-) |
| 03:32:34 | Noodleman | ok, i'm weird |
| 03:32:36 | captain_proton | hum |
| 03:32:43 | lurgyman | not as good as being a little pork |
| 03:32:44 | captain_proton | your turdiness almost got you klined |
| 03:32:48 | captain_proton | as doughecka can attest |
| 03:33:01 | Noodleman | he's done the same thing before |
| 03:33:08 | lurgyman | i don't want to take attest |
| 03:33:12 | captain_proton | and at the time he got klined |
| 03:33:24 | Noodleman | maybe i know when to stop :-P |
| 03:33:30 | captain_proton | lilo was feeling generous so he let him off the hook |
| 03:33:45 | captain_proton | but flooding channels just makes you look like an 11-year-old ass |
| 03:33:50 | lurgyman | thankfully grub was here to save you this time |
| 03:33:52 | Noodleman | maybe |
| 03:33:57 | lurgyman | /join #pork |
| 03:34:23 | Noodleman | sorry for wasting bandwidth |
| 03:34:31 | captain_proton | its not bandwidth thats the issue |
| 03:34:33 | Noodleman | which could be better used for pork |
| 03:34:37 | lurgyman | yay |
| 03:34:45 | captain_proton | its the fact that even the tiniest thread of conversation gets obliterated |
| 03:34:48 | scanline | hmm... maybe instead of "work on zaurus day" or "work on textbox day" today should be "do cool shit with opengl day" |
| 03:35:00 | lurgyman | or "pork day" |
| 03:35:20 | Noodleman | why the pork are you so obsessed with pork? |
| 03:35:25 | captain_proton | scanline: ooh those days are fun |
| 03:35:38 | lurgyman | pork the porking pork's he porking porking? |
| 03:36:49 | captain_proton | Noodleman: the scary thing is that you picked it up without knowing what the joke was |
| 03:36:58 | scanline | captain_proton: I have this urge to spiff up picogui's opengl driver and make it do cool stuff |
| 03:37:13 | Noodleman | oh boy, i don't want to know what the joke was ;-) |
| 03:37:13 | captain_proton | aww, don't do that |
| 03:37:15 | scanline | captain_proton: in its current state you'd probably just laugh at it :) |
| 03:37:19 | captain_proton | do something cooler with opengl |
| 03:37:28 | scanline | like make a 3D engine? |
| 03:37:49 | scanline | I have big plans for picogui's opengl driver... it will be better than Quartz :P |
| 03:37:53 | captain_proton | hmmmm |
| 03:38:23 | Noodleman | what the pork was the pork joke about? pork |
| 03:38:30 | Noodleman | it's still funny |
| 03:39:00 | captain_proton | there's a firesign sketch about US Plus that mentions pork |
| 03:39:11 | lurgyman | repeatedly |
| 03:39:27 | lurgyman | and more than once |
| 03:39:37 | Noodleman | is is anything like the monty python sketch about spam? |
| 03:39:41 | lurgyman | in a repetitive sort of way |
| 03:39:42 | lurgyman | no |
| 03:41:11 | lurgyman | it's something "completely different" |
| 03:42:35 | Widget | Odd..... Yahoo! Go is misbehaving. |
| 03:42:40 | Widget | It's not listening to messages to the server. |
| 03:42:40 | Widget | Pfft. |
| 03:45:16 | Patlabor221 | pork? |
| 03:45:28 | Noodleman | pork |
| 03:45:48 | Patlabor221 | pork?!? |
| 03:46:00 | Noodleman | *PORK* |
| 03:46:01 | captain_proton | tries to remember what he wanted to ask Patlabor221 |
| 03:46:41 | Patlabor221 | p0r|<? |
| 03:47:07 | Patlabor221 | wasn't about hog byproducts was it? |
| 03:47:09 | Noodleman | |>()R|<!!! |
| 03:47:29 | Patlabor221 | wow that porxors |
| 03:47:38 | Noodleman | *pork* the breakfast of champions |
| 03:47:41 | captain_proton | ohh i remember |
| 03:47:51 | captain_proton | got a model of a ship lying around? |
| 03:47:56 | scanline | breakfast, it's what's for dinner |
| 03:48:04 | Patlabor221 | in what format? |
| 03:48:04 | Noodleman | at IHOP |
| 03:48:12 | Patlabor221 | Ihop is not a foramt |
| 03:48:19 | captain_proton | something loadable by the model class in jetstream |
| 03:48:19 | scanline | Ihop is a darn good format! |
| 03:48:50 | Patlabor221 | internal huristic operation protocoll? they baned that years ago |
| 03:49:08 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 03:49:26 | Patlabor221 | hmm if I was model where would i be? |
| 03:49:38 | Noodleman | "peonic operations requiring kludges" |
| 03:49:40 | Patlabor221 | nope not there |
| 03:49:44 | Patlabor221 | that's full of porn |
| 03:51:13 | Patlabor221 | I had one that wasn't too bad |
| 03:51:17 | Patlabor221 | teuxtured even |
| 03:51:22 | Patlabor221 | just gotta find it |
| 03:51:42 | Patlabor221 | a modified VF-1s I think |
| 03:52:12 | captain_proton | doesn't matter what it looks like |
| 03:52:16 | captain_proton | so long as it could fly :) |
| 03:52:44 | Patlabor221 | put an engine on a tank if you want |
| 03:53:51 | Patlabor221 | I know I have at least 2 |
| 03:53:56 | Patlabor221 | I just need to find them |
| 03:55:36 | Patlabor221 | wheee there is my MD3 viewer at least |
| 03:57:10 | Widget | ibot: x de en Feind |
| 03:57:11 | | Widget: Enemy |
| 03:57:21 | Widget | ibot: x de en Des Volkes Feind |
| 03:57:21 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: well here is someting |
| 03:57:21 | | Widget: The people enemy |
| 03:57:55 | Patlabor221 | it's very simple |
| 03:57:59 | Widget | ibot: x de en Schragen wir des Volkes Feind. |
| 03:57:59 | | Widget: Schragen we the people enemy. |
| 03:58:24 | Patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/spaceship-tutorial.zip |
| 03:58:35 | Patlabor221 | it's in there as OBJ and BMF |
| 03:58:41 | Patlabor221 | both are readable by the class |
| 03:58:45 | Patlabor221 | and the texture is a BMP |
| 03:58:55 | Patlabor221 | you will proalby want to make it something else |
| 04:01:23 | Patlabor221 | also there is |
| 04:01:36 | Patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/vf1s.zip |
| 04:01:45 | Patlabor221 | it's a lot darker |
| 04:02:36 | lurgyman | Great news! We can buy a million tons of pork from ribs.com for only $80B! |
| 04:02:56 | lurgyman | if we want it on a saturday, it only costs $7 extra |
| 04:03:17 | lurgyman | i figure, all of us here right now contribute $6.7B or so, then we'll be good |
| 04:03:20 | lurgyman | pork for all! |
| 04:04:16 | captain_proton | vf1s.zip not found |
| 04:05:32 | Patlabor221 | son of a fat bitch |
| 04:05:33 | Patlabor221 | one sec |
| 04:06:22 | Patlabor221 | damn cancel button |
| 04:06:24 | Patlabor221 | try now |
| 04:13:14 | captain_proton | scanline: micah@yoshi.picogui.org? ;) |
| 04:13:47 | scanline | captain_proton: s/yoshi/navi/ |
| 04:16:10 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 04:16:13 | captain_proton | check your mail |
| 04:16:25 | scanline | nothing |
| 04:16:43 | captain_proton | it might take a tiny while to arrive |
| 04:17:11 | scanline | heh |
| 04:17:20 | scanline | checks the CPU load on his mail server |
| 04:19:41 | captain_proton | mother nature is on crack |
| 04:19:43 | captain_proton | raining again |
| 04:23:57 | captain_proton | anything yet scanline? :0 |
| 04:25:14 | scanline | no |
| 04:28:39 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 04:36:50 | scanline | this is really funny writing OpenGL code in picogui's theme language :) |
| 04:37:11 | captain_proton | haha |
| 04:45:17 | scanline | GL.pushmatrix(); |
| 04:56:58 | lurgyman | cout.setf(ios::openGL); |
| 04:57:12 | lurgyman | cout << tank(); |
| 04:57:29 | lurgyman | cout << refresh; |
| 04:57:35 | lurgyman | ... |
| 04:58:02 | scanline | explodes |
| 05:03:03 | lurgyman | see? i know openGL!!! |
| 05:03:12 | captain_proton | class gl : public ostream |
| 05:07:43 | scanline | creates a rather CPU intensive wallpaper |
| 05:09:01 | captain_proton | considers joining scanline's mad quest to make something sexier than quartz |
| 05:10:22 | scanline | hehe >:) |
| 05:10:47 | scanline | doubts that quartz could handle running arbitrary OpenGL commands inside a wallpaper |
| 05:10:54 | captain_proton | haha |
| 05:12:46 | scanline | heh.. this only gets 60FPS at 1280x1024 |
| 05:12:58 | scanline | video card must not like alpha blending everything on the screen 3 times |
| 05:13:51 | captain_proton | ponders going over to take a gander |
| 05:14:06 | scanline | you're going to laugh at this |
| 05:14:15 | captain_proton | coming :) |
| 05:14:16 | scanline | or go "eww" a few times :P |
| 05:16:33 | captain_proton | i was thinking of writing a complete system from the ground up based on opengl/svg |
| 05:17:01 | scanline | why not fresco? |
| 05:17:15 | captain_proton | fresco? |
| 05:17:25 | scanline | http://fresco.org/ |
| 05:17:56 | scanline | it's architecture is a lot like picogui, but it's more general, designed for machines with lots of resources |
| 05:18:39 | scanline | continues writing his disgusting code |
| 05:19:17 | scanline | maybe I'll do something useful today... |
| 05:20:32 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 05:22:29 | captain_proton | fresco doesn't even approach quartz's sexiness |
| 05:22:51 | scanline | I know fresco doesn't look like much now, but the design is solid |
| 05:23:05 | scanline | you'd just have to fix up the OpenGL graphics kit, and write a sexier widget kit for it |
| 05:24:20 | captain_proton | true |
| 05:28:30 | lurgyman | !false |
| 05:29:26 | captain_proton | hmm, i'd basically have to rewrite all the client kits |
| 05:29:29 | captain_proton | :) |
| 05:29:33 | scanline | client kits? |
| 05:29:36 | scanline | it uses CORBA |
| 05:30:06 | captain_proton | TextKit, WidgetKit, etc |
| 05:30:11 | captain_proton | bad terminology |
| 05:30:27 | scanline | I wouldn't think you'd need to rewrite textkit... |
| 05:30:29 | scanline | just widgets |
| 05:31:46 | captain_proton | oof, their vector kit is based on postscript |
| 05:32:01 | captain_proton | talk about bass-ackwards library use |
| 05:33:28 | captain_proton | /usr/include/c++/3.2/backward/backward_warning.h:32:2: warning: #warning This file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header. Please consider using one of the 32 headers found in section 17.4.1.2 of the C++ standard. Examples include substituting the <X> header for the <X.h> header for C++ includes, or <sstream> instead of the deprecated header <strstream.h>. To disable this warning use -Wno-deprecated. |
| 05:36:25 | captain_proton | attempts to select some good coding muzak |
| 05:36:44 | scanline | for coding what? |
| 05:37:39 | captain_proton | something, anything |
| 05:37:53 | captain_proton | building fresco right now, we'll see how that looks |
| 05:38:06 | scanline | it has a lot of dependencies |
| 05:38:23 | captain_proton | like? |
| 05:38:38 | scanline | I forget... |
| 05:38:42 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:42:04 | captain_proton | hmm LOTS of bad errors |
| 05:42:10 | captain_proton | abandons fresco |
| 05:42:15 | scanline | bah |
| 05:42:44 | captain_proton | grins at scanline |
| 05:43:47 | captain_proton | scanline: gimme a source tree to play with |
| 05:44:15 | scanline | I don't have a fresco source tree |
| 05:44:26 | scanline | I don't actually develop on it.. just think it's a cool project |
| 05:44:33 | captain_proton | not a fresco source tree ;) |
| 05:45:10 | scanline | looks to see what source trees he has handy |
| 05:45:48 | scanline | hmm.. Crystalspace, SDL, BZFlag, OpenZaurus, drop, ecos, jabberpy, manticore, mozilla, mplayer, picogui, tslib, tuxscreen, waba, wine, picolinux |
| 05:45:57 | scanline | all in my CVS directory |
| 05:46:19 | captain_proton | wonders if he needs to put it more bluntly |
| 05:46:30 | scanline | :P |
| 05:47:00 | scanline | you can get picogui source at picogui.org, if that's what you want |
| 05:47:14 | captain_proton | but what of that gross bit you're working on now? :) |
| 05:47:19 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:47:22 | scanline | you want that, eh? |
| 05:47:41 | scanline | It's not in CVS yet.. though I could fix that pretty easily |
| 05:47:48 | scanline | need to make an experimental_themes module or something |
| 05:48:11 | scanline | the opengl driver for picogui has a ton of limitations right now though |
| 05:48:59 | captain_proton | is good with opengl |
| 05:49:13 | scanline | also has a big gaping lack of documentation :) |
| 05:49:35 | captain_proton | bwahaha |
| 05:49:41 | scanline | but anyway, go ahead and pull in the rest of the picogui stuff from CVS.. I'll have this "fluid GL" theme in CVS momentarily |
| 05:50:03 | scanline | I'm just cleaning up my experimental themes directory, then I'll import the whole lot into CVS |
| 05:50:37 | scanline | finds several files that make him say "what the hell is this?" |
| 05:50:52 | captain_proton | kicks mozilla |
| 05:51:25 | jacques | 1.0.1 ? |
| 05:52:00 | captain_proton | 1.1 |
| 05:52:08 | captain_proton | its been strangely freezing recently |
| 05:52:12 | jacques | grr |
| 05:52:14 | captain_proton | worked fine for a while |
| 05:52:58 | jacques | I'm still on 1.0 because I use galeon |
| 05:54:11 | captain_proton | wonders why there's no png loader |
| 05:54:29 | captain_proton | err |
| 05:54:30 | captain_proton | wait |
| 05:55:42 | captain_proton | thinks scanline needs C++ bindings |
| 05:55:52 | scanline | captain_proton: want to write some? =) |
| 05:55:57 | captain_proton | perhaps, perhaps |
| 05:56:02 | captain_proton | first i need to make it look sexy |
| 05:56:04 | scanline | captain_proton: the client/server protocol is pretty well documented |
| 05:56:05 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:56:17 | scanline | priorities, I see |
| 05:56:59 | captain_proton | of course |
| 05:57:29 | captain_proton | your autogen.sh's need to run automake with the -a flag |
| 05:58:22 | scanline | that shouldn't make much difference |
| 05:58:32 | scanline | but it couldn't hurt I guess... |
| 05:58:42 | captain_proton | hmm some of them do, some don't |
| 05:58:46 | scanline | doesn't know much about the autoconf actually, Frederic Gobry did the current build system |
| 05:59:00 | captain_proton | automake -a copies in things like 'mkinstalldirs' if they're missing |
| 06:01:18 | scanline | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/pgui/extra_themes/fluid_gl/fluid_gl.ths |
| 06:01:38 | captain_proton | new module? |
| 06:01:48 | scanline | yep. extra_themes |
| 06:02:04 | scanline | I don't want to clutter up the themetools/examples directory with stuff this wacky |
| 06:02:48 | scanline | there's a lot of crufty stuff in that fluid_gl theme... |
| 06:03:07 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:03:11 | scanline | like the Nop() to get around the theme compiler's dislike of empty fillstyles... |
| 06:03:34 | scanline | repeating of code since fillstyles can't call each other like functions yet... |
| 06:03:49 | scanline | converting numbers to fixed point notation manually |
| 06:04:35 | captain_proton | how to use a theme in pgserver? |
| 06:05:03 | scanline | the short answer is pass it in a -t parameter to pgserver, the long answer is read README.configfile |
| 06:05:49 | scanline | BTW, if you didn't notice yet, the sdlgl driver isn't enabled by default, you need to enable it at compile time then pass "-v sdlgl" to pgserver |
| 06:06:30 | scanline | you also might need to give it a path to a truetype font to use.. it defaults to the path for a openoffice font on debian. All that's documented in the README.configfile |
| 06:06:52 | scanline | the font system in sdlgl is really minimal and really buggy right now |
| 06:07:08 | scanline | I wrote this opengl driver over a weekend or two, and only work on it occasionally :) |
| 06:07:26 | captain_proton | i don't see a configure option to enable sdlgl |
| 06:08:27 | scanline | try "make menuconfig" |
| 06:08:37 | scanline | lots and lots of compile-time options |
| 06:08:58 | scanline | there is a configure option to enable opengl in the theme compiler though |
| 06:09:11 | scanline | that just has it scan the opengl headers in addition to the picogui headers |
| 06:09:44 | captain_proton | yeah i noticed it in the theme compiler |
| 06:11:22 | captain_proton | rebuilds pgserver |
| 06:14:41 | scanline | thinks about making some ramen noodles |
| 06:14:48 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara examples]$ themec gl_cube.ths |
| 06:14:48 | captain_proton | Compiling gl_cube.ths -> gl_cube.th |
| 06:14:48 | captain_proton | Error on gl_cube.ths:55: parse error at "GL_DEPTH_TEST" |
| 06:14:48 | captain_proton | Error on gl_cube.ths:133: parse error at "}" |
| 06:15:08 | scanline | hmm.. looks like themec didn't find your opengl headers? |
| 06:15:58 | scanline | oh yeah.. the Makefile.am is kinda dumb |
| 06:16:07 | scanline | or maybe really dumb.. |
| 06:16:20 | scanline | it looks for gl.h in /usr/include/GL/gl.h |
| 06:16:40 | scanline | that's in themetools/themec/Makefile.am |
| 06:19:08 | captain_proton | thats where gl.h is |
| 06:19:29 | scanline | hrm.. |
| 06:19:44 | scanline | grep themec/symtab.c for GL_DEPTH_TEST |
| 06:20:34 | captain_proton | nothing |
| 06:20:38 | scanline | bah |
| 06:20:48 | scanline | now grep your headers for GL_DEPTH_TEST :) |
| 06:21:08 | scanline | could be it's in some other header that gl.h includes... mksymtab.pl isn't very smart |
| 06:21:18 | captain_proton | #define GL_DEPTH_TEST0x0B71 |
| 06:21:25 | scanline | BAH |
| 06:21:28 | scanline | hmm... |
| 06:21:44 | scanline | is your gl.h in the #includes for symtab.c? |
| 06:22:38 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 06:22:43 | captain_proton | it needs --enable-opengl=yes |
| 06:22:45 | captain_proton | :P |
| 06:22:56 | captain_proton | how silly |
| 06:22:58 | scanline | eh? didn't for me... |
| 06:23:21 | captain_proton | hmm, maybe not |
| 06:23:37 | scanline | are you using automake 1.5? |
| 06:24:02 | captain_proton | 1.6.3 |
| 06:24:06 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:24:20 | scanline | haven't tested that, and I think 1.5 broke some stuff in pgserver... |
| 06:24:33 | scanline | bugged frederic about that a while back but he didn't fix it |
| 06:25:12 | scanline | bah.. a spam |
| 06:28:09 | captain_proton | [case "${enableval}" in |
| 06:28:27 | captain_proton | in what? |
| 06:28:57 | scanline | yes) opengl=true ;; |
| 06:28:57 | scanline | no) opengl=false ;; |
| 06:29:15 | captain_proton | hum |
| 06:35:08 | captain_proton | themec/Makefile.am:14: CONSTANTS was already defined in condition TRUE, which implies condition OPENGL_TRUE |
| 06:36:30 | captain_proton | kludges it |
| 06:37:53 | scanline | heh... the opengl stuff is maintained very little, and usually only by me |
| 06:39:16 | scanline | One thing I'd like to do that should make the sdlgl driver a lot faster is to have it cache picogui groplists as opengl display lists |
| 06:39:46 | scanline | another thing it should do is cache areas of the screen that don't change much into textures |
| 06:40:12 | captain_proton | should cache everything into textures :) |
| 06:40:24 | scanline | maybe everything that's not animated |
| 06:40:57 | captain_proton | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 06:40:57 | captain_proton | :) |
| 06:41:02 | scanline | in themec? |
| 06:41:19 | scanline | grumbles |
| 06:41:35 | captain_proton | in pgserver |
| 06:41:45 | scanline | while running what? |
| 06:41:55 | captain_proton | nothing |
| 06:42:00 | scanline | doh |
| 06:42:06 | scanline | where did it crash? |
| 06:42:15 | captain_proton | /j #flood |
| 06:42:18 | scanline | k |
| 06:43:00 | scanline | Usually people don't have this much trouble running pgserver :) |
| 06:43:28 | captain_proton | bwahaha |
| 06:43:35 | captain_proton | i did a ctrl+alt+q to pan |
| 06:43:53 | scanline | captain_proton: the backtrace is surprisingly unhelpful though... |
| 06:44:10 | scanline | just indicates that pgserver tried to trap the segfault (to clean up stuff) and got in an infinite loop |
| 06:44:18 | scanline | try running it in gdb, so you'll catch the first segfault |
| 06:45:44 | captain_proton | 317 *h = (*w) + fd->font->h + fd->interline_space; |
| 06:45:51 | scanline | oh |
| 06:45:53 | scanline | is fd null? |
| 06:46:08 | captain_proton | sizetext (fd=0x80f8164, w=0xbffff82c, h=0xbffff82e, txt=0x80faa74 "Greetings") at font.c:317 |
| 06:46:18 | scanline | err... |
| 06:46:22 | scanline | is fd->font null I meant :) |
| 06:48:10 | captain_proton | that it is |
| 06:48:16 | scanline | If so, it probably means you compiled pgserver with no fonts compiled in |
| 06:48:17 | scanline | k |
| 06:48:28 | captain_proton | hmmmmm |
| 06:48:53 | captain_proton | this is with sdlgl stuff btw |
| 06:49:01 | scanline | oh |
| 06:49:06 | scanline | does it run fine with sdlfb? |
| 06:49:22 | scanline | wait... that doesn't matter |
| 06:49:28 | captain_proton | i don't have fb support in my kernel |
| 06:49:30 | scanline | you need to give pgserver the path to a truetype font to use |
| 06:49:50 | scanline | sdlfb is a SDL driver that emulates various types of framebuffers, it's the normal driver for doing development with picogui |
| 06:49:55 | captain_proton | oh |
| 06:49:57 | captain_proton | yeah, it does |
| 06:50:03 | captain_proton | how do i give it the path? |
| 06:50:42 | scanline | it's buried in README.configfile... try adding "--video-sdlgl.font_path=whatever.ttf" to the commandline |
| 06:51:01 | scanline | rather awkward to use on the command line, you might want to stick that in a ~/.pgserverrc |
| 06:51:08 | scanline | something like: |
| 06:51:13 | scanline | [video-sdlgl] |
| 06:51:16 | scanline | font_path = whatever.ttf |
| 06:52:16 | scanline | err |
| 06:52:22 | scanline | that should be 'font' instead of 'font_path' |
| 06:52:40 | scanline | didn't see the huge "NOT IMPLEMENTED YET" sticker next to font_path |
| 06:54:13 | captain_proton | ahhhhhh |
| 06:54:28 | captain_proton | you desperately need to add a call to glClear() :P |
| 06:54:34 | captain_proton | *** ERROR (MEMORY) : Memory leak detected on exit. Fire up gdb and call a plumber |
| 06:55:11 | scanline | press CTRL-ALT-G |
| 06:55:26 | scanline | normally it doesn't clear the background for speed, that turns on a grid background |
| 06:55:47 | scanline | there are several other magic keys, including camera control. read README.opengl |
| 06:56:08 | scanline | tries to reproduce a memory leak |
| 06:57:13 | bomber | moin |
| 06:57:21 | scanline | waves to bomber |
| 06:57:27 | bomber | hurra |
| 06:58:42 | captain_proton | what is 'themebar' ? |
| 06:59:06 | scanline | crummy little test app that displays a list of the themes in a directory and lets you click to load and unload them |
| 07:00:34 | captain_proton | command line options? |
| 07:00:47 | scanline | directory with a bunch of .th files |
| 07:01:07 | captain_proton | just the directory name as the first arg? |
| 07:01:11 | scanline | yep |
| 07:01:24 | captain_proton | doesn't appear to work |
| 07:01:28 | scanline | not surprising |
| 07:05:35 | scanline | oh never mind.. themebar actually looks for the themes in the current directory. No command line args |
| 07:06:49 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 07:07:16 | captain_proton | haha you can layer them up |
| 07:07:19 | scanline | yup |
| 07:07:33 | scanline | that's why there are themes like mod_dropshadow |
| 07:07:41 | scanline | backgrounds and cursors are themes too |
| 07:07:53 | scanline | there's a "pgbg" script in themetools for packaging background images into themes |
| 07:08:36 | scanline | when we finally get around to having a decent user friendly theme switching applet, it will automatically package background images into themes |
| 07:09:18 | captain_proton | what was the eyecandy theme you had before aqua? |
| 07:10:00 | scanline | aqua was the first eye candy theme really.. there was a pretty neat gradient theme before that, but that was in picogui's ancient theme engine. I wrote the current aqua theme to test the theme engine |
| 07:13:07 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 07:13:14 | captain_proton | uff, i need to shower |
| 07:45:25 | captain_proton | sleepytime |
| 07:45:35 | scanline | g'night |
| 08:16:35 | sussudio | dervish dukot, camper nazi |
| 08:42:36 | bomber | hi pinguin |
| 08:45:02 | Pinguin | Hallöle ... |
| 08:52:13 | BZFlag | http://www.bzflag.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnUnix oops |
| 08:57:14 | scanline | is away: Sleep, that's where I'm an COBOL and Object Pascal programmer! |
| 10:18:39 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:18:39 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 10:18:41 | bzbot | rm -r (R): 0 (10-10). |
| 10:30:28 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:30:28 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 10:30:29 | bzbot | fred (R): 0 (3-3). ka_li_me_ro. (G): 0 (3-3). |
| 10:33:28 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:33:28 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 10:33:29 | bzbot | fred (R): 1 (7-6). ka_li_me_ro. (G): -1 (6-7). BearWeb (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 10:34:46 | Pinguin | tz tz tz ... bomber ... hast Du nix zu tun oder was? |
| 10:36:06 | bomber | ja ich gucke nur wer da ist :o) |
| 10:36:14 | bomber | und du? |
| 10:36:33 | Pinguin | ich arbeite! |
| 10:36:47 | bomber | ha ha |
| 10:36:50 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 10:36:52 | bomber | und chatest du |
| 10:37:04 | bomber | hast du tea gesehen? |
| 10:37:07 | Pinguin | ich gucke nru was der bomber die ganze Zeit macht ... |
| 10:37:23 | Pinguin | TeA ... seit Sonntag nicht mehr ... Mo + Di war ich nicht da ... |
| 10:37:42 | bomber | ich WEISS |
| 10:38:40 | bomber | Pinguin und was machst du? |
| 10:39:05 | bomber | hast du schon webcam? |
| 10:39:15 | Pinguin | immer den gleichen Unsinn ... Antennen ... Schottky-Dioden ... Photomischer ... |
| 10:39:26 | bomber | Tin ist da? |
| 10:39:35 | Pinguin | Webcam? Leider noch keine EMail bekommen... |
| 10:39:48 | Pinguin | Tin kommt Montag wieder :-( |
| 10:40:27 | bomber | gruesse von martina |
| 10:40:36 | Pinguin | Oh, danke ... grüsse zurück ... |
| 10:40:49 | bomber | wann gucken wir photos von banda..el....blabla |
| 10:41:05 | Pinguin | Bandar Seri Begawan? Wann Du willst ... |
| 10:41:19 | bomber | heute in tenistreff ? |
| 10:41:27 | bomber | :o) |
| 10:41:37 | Pinguin | Die Fotos sind bei mir zuhause ... |
| 10:41:49 | bomber | also nicht wann ich will :o( |
| 10:41:58 | Pinguin | :-> |
| 10:42:03 | bomber | morgen? |
| 10:42:10 | Pinguin | OK |
| 10:42:12 | bomber | martina arbeitet |
| 10:42:19 | Pinguin | Aha |
| 10:42:27 | bomber | also gut ich komme vorbei |
| 10:42:41 | bomber | und koennen wir zusammen zu tenistreff fahren |
| 10:42:51 | Pinguin | Morgen? |
| 10:42:56 | bomber | wenn dein auto funktioniert :o))))))))))))))))))) |
| 10:43:02 | bomber | ja |
| 10:43:04 | bomber | morgen |
| 10:43:14 | Pinguin | Hat mich bisher nur einmal im Stich gelassen ... |
| 10:43:29 | bomber | wollte nicht bremsen...was? |
| 10:43:37 | bomber | :o)))))))))))) |
| 10:43:50 | Pinguin | Die Reichweitenanzeige sagte etwas von über 20km ... war gelogen! |
| 10:44:11 | bomber | so so |
| 10:44:41 | bomber | wie gehts manolo? |
| 10:44:53 | Pinguin | keine Ahnung ... ist wieder mal weg ... |
| 10:45:14 | bomber | und du...trenierst du? |
| 10:45:27 | Pinguin | Ich werde!!! Heute abend? |
| 10:45:28 | bomber | wir haben doch match am sonntag |
| 10:45:43 | bomber | starke gegner |
| 10:45:54 | Pinguin | Ups ... wer ist es denn eigentlich? |
| 10:46:01 | bomber | Vbz |
| 10:46:11 | Pinguin | Very busy Zombies? |
| 10:46:16 | bomber | hahahaha |
| 10:46:25 | bomber | guckmal in web |
| 10:46:28 | Pinguin | OK |
| 10:46:45 | bomber | neues team..alte leute |
| 10:46:53 | Pinguin | Aha ... |
| 10:47:18 | bomber | ok zurueck in die zukunft :o) |
| 10:47:23 | bomber | back to work |
| 10:47:23 | Pinguin | vitamin bz? |
| 10:47:27 | bomber | genau |
| 10:47:44 | | bomber: i'm not following you... |
| 10:47:44 | bomber | ibot genau |
| 10:47:56 | Pinguin | ich kenne da niemanden ... |
| 10:48:01 | | well, Pinguin is hating ibot |
| 10:48:01 | bomber | ibot Pinguin |
| 10:48:07 | | bomber: i'm not following you... |
| 10:48:07 | bomber | ibot bomber |
| 10:48:09 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 10:48:12 | | no idea, bomber |
| 10:48:12 | bomber | ibot bomber? |
| 10:48:17 | | Pinguin: i'm not following you... |
| 10:48:17 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber= |
| 10:48:19 | | pinguin: i haven't a clue |
| 10:48:19 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber? |
| 10:48:29 | | i am spiffy or BZFlag and Tangent's bot that hangs out on lots of OPN channels |
| 10:48:29 | bomber | ibot ibot |
| 10:48:39 | Pinguin | bomber is a psycho |
| 10:48:41 | | i haven't a clue, pinguin |
| 10:48:41 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber? |
| 10:48:45 | Pinguin | hm ... |
| 10:48:49 | bomber | hehe |
| 10:49:08 | bomber | ibot x de en Pinguin |
| 10:49:09 | | bomber: Penguin |
| 10:49:15 | | OK, Pinguin. |
| 10:49:15 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber is a genius! |
| 10:49:19 | | i guess bomber is a genius! |
| 10:49:19 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber? |
| 10:49:23 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 10:49:29 | bomber | :-O |
| 10:49:55 | | ...but pinguin is hating ibot... |
| 10:49:55 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin is autofreal |
| 10:50:00 | bomber | hehe |
| 10:50:08 | Pinguin | ??? |
| 10:50:15 | Pinguin | ibot x en de autofreal |
| 10:50:16 | | Pinguin: autofreal |
| 10:50:20 | bomber | k |
| 10:50:26 | bomber | freak |
| 10:50:46 | Pinguin | Out of real ??? |
| 10:51:45 | | bomber: i'm not following you... |
| 10:51:45 | bomber | ibot remove Pinguin |
| 10:51:55 | bomber | wie ist das |
| 10:52:24 | Pinguin | mit doppelpunkt? |
| 10:52:33 | | bomber: huh? |
| 10:52:33 | bomber | ibot: remove Pinguin |
| 10:52:37 | bomber | ne |
| 10:52:41 | bomber | wo : |
| 10:52:51 | | Pinguin: sorry... |
| 10:52:51 | Pinguin | ibot: remove bomber! |
| 10:53:05 | | Pinguin: i'm not following you... |
| 10:53:05 | Pinguin | ibot: remove Pinguin! |
| 10:53:09 | bomber | das war etwas anderes |
| 10:53:14 | bomber | nicht remove |
| 10:53:20 | bomber | oder ? |
| 10:53:25 | bomber | ibot: help |
| 10:56:38 | | okay, bomber. |
| 10:56:39 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin is also autofreak |
| 10:56:47 | Pinguin | ??? |
| 10:56:50 | | well, Pinguin is hating ibot or autofreak |
| 10:56:50 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin |
| 10:56:58 | Pinguin | Hahahaha |
| 10:56:58 | bomber | hehe |
| 10:57:02 | bomber | hehehe |
| 10:57:19 | bomber | Pinguin....schreibe ibot: help |
| 10:57:36 | Pinguin | hatte ich schon ... führte dazu, das ich ibot hasse ... |
| 10:58:42 | | bomber: Try a 4-letter station code (see http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/curcond.html for locations and codes) |
| 10:58:42 | bomber | ibot: weather for Pinguin |
| 10:58:48 | bomber | hehe |
| 10:59:22 | Pinguin | uff |
| 11:00:04 | bomber | ibot: change 200 USD to SK |
| 11:00:13 | | bomber: 200.00 (United States Dollar (USD)) makes 8,813.09 (Koruna (SKK)) |
| 11:00:19 | Pinguin | uff |
| 11:00:21 | bomber | ufffffffffffffffffff |
| 11:00:28 | bomber | gooood |
| 11:00:30 | Pinguin | ibot change 12 GBP to euro |
| 11:00:38 | | Pinguin: 12.00 (Pound (GBP)) makes 19.1130 (Euro (EUR)) |
| 11:00:50 | Pinguin | hm ... teures Taxi ... |
| 11:01:23 | Pinguin | ibot: exchange bomber by somebody else |
| 11:01:23 | | Pinguin: that doesn't look right |
| 11:01:29 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 11:03:46 | | pinguin has neutral karma |
| 11:03:46 | bomber | ibot: karma Pinguin |
| 11:04:07 | Pinguin | karma? |
| 11:04:22 | | bomber has neutral karma |
| 11:04:22 | Pinguin | ibot: karma bomber |
| 11:07:51 | | ...but pinguin is hating ibot or autofreak... |
| 11:07:51 | bomber | ibot: no, Pinguin is busy |
| 11:07:58 | | ...but pinguin is hating ibot or autofreak... |
| 11:07:58 | bomber | ibot: no, Pinguin is busy |
| 11:08:26 | | i guess Pinguin is hating ibot or autofreak |
| 11:08:26 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin |
| 11:11:13 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:11:13 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 11:11:13 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 11:12:00 | | ...but bomber is a genius!... |
| 11:12:00 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber is trying to mess up ibot! |
| 11:12:03 | | ...but bomber is a genius!... |
| 11:12:03 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber is trying to mess up ibot! |
| 11:12:05 | | ...but bomber is a genius!... |
| 11:12:05 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber is trying to mess up ibot! |
| 11:12:10 | | ...but bomber is a genius!... |
| 11:12:10 | Pinguin | ibot: no, bomber is trying to mess up ibot! |
| 11:12:18 | Pinguin | hm ... |
| 11:15:27 | bomber | hmmmm |
| 11:15:47 | | wish i knew, bomber |
| 11:15:47 | bomber | ibot: ? |
| 11:15:53 | | e is a little more than 2, but less than 3 or portuguese for and |
| 11:15:53 | bomber | ibot: e |
| 11:16:10 | | bomber: huh? |
| 11:16:10 | bomber | ibot: ke |
| 11:16:14 | | i haven't a clue, bomber |
| 11:16:14 | bomber | ibot: ke? |
| 11:16:21 | | rumour has it bomber is a genius |
| 11:16:21 | bomber | ibot: i |
| 11:16:25 | bomber | hehe |
| 11:16:36 | | i guess i am spiffy or BZFlag and Tangent's bot that hangs out on lots of OPN channels |
| 11:16:36 | bomber | ibot: you |
| 11:16:49 | | bomber: sorry... |
| 11:16:49 | bomber | ibot: all |
| 11:18:01 | | OK, Pinguin. |
| 11:18:01 | Pinguin | ibot: photoconductive antenna on LTGaAs are competing with Quantum Cascade Laser at THz frequencies |
| 11:18:06 | Pinguin | Hahahaha |
| 11:18:19 | | pinguin: bugger all, i dunno |
| 11:18:19 | Pinguin | ibot: antenna? |
| 11:18:32 | | bugger all, i dunno, pinguin |
| 11:18:32 | Pinguin | ibot: photconductive antenna? |
| 11:18:39 | | i don't know, pinguin |
| 11:18:39 | Pinguin | ibot: photconductive antenna on LTGaAs? |
| 11:18:43 | Pinguin | hm ... |
| 11:19:15 | | Pinguin: sorry... |
| 11:19:15 | Pinguin | ibot: schottky diodes can reach cutoff frequencies beyond 10THz |
| 11:19:24 | | OK, Pinguin. |
| 11:19:24 | Pinguin | ibot: schottky diodes are reaching cutoff frequencies beyond 10THz |
| 11:19:36 | | schottky diodes are reaching cutoff frequencies beyond 10THz |
| 11:19:36 | Pinguin | ibot: schottky diodes? |
| 11:19:41 | Pinguin | excellent! |
| 11:20:23 | | hmmm... bomber is busy |
| 11:20:23 | bomber | ibot: bomber |
| 11:20:27 | bomber | hehe |
| 11:20:57 | | ...but bomber is busy... |
| 11:20:57 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber is playing all the time |
| 11:20:59 | | ...but bomber is busy... |
| 11:20:59 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber is playing all the time |
| 11:21:08 | Pinguin | no, ibot: bomber is playing all the time |
| 11:21:11 | | i guess Pinguin is busy |
| 11:21:11 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin |
| 11:21:17 | Pinguin | ??? |
| 11:21:20 | bomber | nhehe |
| 11:23:44 | | Pinguin is freak on schottky diodes |
| 11:23:44 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin |
| 11:23:51 | bomber | hehe |
| 11:24:47 | | rumour has it Pinguin is happy man |
| 11:24:47 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin |
| 11:25:05 | Pinguin | ibot: help |
| 11:25:10 | Pinguin | na warte ... |
| 11:25:28 | bomber | hehe |
| 11:26:55 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 11:27:19 | | hmmm... i am spiffy or BZFlag and Tangent's bot that hangs out on lots of OPN channels |
| 11:27:19 | bomber | ibot: ibot |
| 11:27:43 | | goodbye, doughecka. |
| 11:27:43 | doughecka | ibot part #bzflag |
| 11:28:10 | | well, Pinguin is busy |
| 11:28:10 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin |
| 11:28:15 | doughecka | haha |
| 11:28:20 | doughecka | I can connnntrol him! |
| 11:29:29 | | doughecka is busy |
| 11:29:29 | bomber | ibot: doughecka |
| 11:29:34 | bomber | hehe |
| 11:31:24 | | hmmm... everybody is sleeping like little babies |
| 11:31:24 | bomber | ibot: everybody |
| 11:31:29 | bomber | nhaha |
| 11:32:49 | Pinguin | insult bomber |
| 11:32:55 | Pinguin | ups ... |
| 11:33:01 | | bomber is nothing but a culturally-unsound pile of beef-witted buzzard gizzards. |
| 11:33:01 | Pinguin | ibot: insult bomber |
| 11:33:24 | | Loni Anderson's hair should be LEGALIZED!! |
| 11:33:24 | doughecka | ibot YOW |
| 11:33:59 | | hmmm... Pinguin is nothing but a culturally-unsound pile of beef-witted buzzard gizzards |
| 11:33:59 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin |
| 11:34:16 | | i think bomber is playing all the time! |
| 11:34:16 | Pinguin | ibot: bomber |
| 11:34:24 | bomber | hehe |
| 11:34:31 | bomber | like you Pinguin |
| 11:34:41 | doughecka | s away: breakfast |
| 11:34:41 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 11:34:43 | bomber | hast du es endlich geschafft |
| 11:35:03 | doughecka | ibot x de en hast du es endlich geschafft |
| 11:35:05 | | doughecka: you created it finally |
| 11:35:08 | doughecka | haha |
| 11:35:12 | bomber | haha |
| 11:35:35 | | i heard doughecka was busy |
| 11:35:35 | bomber | ibot: doughecka |
| 11:35:48 | | doughecka: I forgot doughecka |
| 11:35:48 | doughecka | ibot forget doughecka |
| 11:35:57 | | OK, doughecka. |
| 11:35:57 | doughecka | ibot dougheck is <reply> eating |
| 11:35:59 | bomber | siehst du Pinguin |
| 11:36:02 | | doughecka: what? |
| 11:36:02 | doughecka | ibot doughecka |
| 11:36:11 | bomber | das ist forgot |
| 11:36:15 | doughecka | ibot x de en siehst du Pinguin |
| 11:36:17 | | doughecka: you see penguin |
| 11:36:42 | doughecka | ibot x de en das ist forgot |
| 11:36:44 | | doughecka: that is forgot |
| 11:36:44 | bomber | we were looking for this word |
| 11:36:53 | doughecka | hehe |
| 11:37:20 | bomber | thx doughecka |
| 11:37:37 | | you are playing all the time! |
| 11:37:37 | bomber | ibot: bomber |
| 11:37:52 | | bomber: I forgot bomber |
| 11:37:52 | bomber | ibot forget bomber |
| 11:38:09 | doughecka | ibot x en de hahaha doug knows german! |
| 11:38:11 | | doughecka: hahaha doug spricht deutsch! |
| 11:38:29 | doughecka | is away: breakfast |
| 11:38:44 | bomber | xexe |
| 11:40:09 | | rumour has it Pinguin is hating ibot |
| 11:40:09 | bomber | ibot: Pinguin |
| 11:40:27 | bomber | is away: coffe |
| 12:05:14 | bomber | is back (gone 00:24:46) |
| 12:58:16 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:58:16 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 12:58:17 | bzbot | anaconda bang bang (R): 0 (0-0). Roedie (G): -26 (54-80). fred (G): -6 (6-12). anaconda bang bang 2 (R): -6 (2-8). |
| 13:11:09 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:11:09 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 13:11:10 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 13:12:36 | bomber | is away: bomber is experimenting with zoom |
| 13:13:10 | strayer | hiho... |
| 13:30:47 | bomber | is back (gone 00:18:10) |
| 13:31:02 | bomber | Pinguin? |
| 13:31:19 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:31:19 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 13:31:20 | bzbot | fred (G): 4 (5-1). |
| 13:42:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 13:47:14 | Chestal | does anyone know the URL of the jzaun bzflag site? |
| 13:47:32 | Chestal | it is obviously running an automatic server list, it's connectign my server every few minutes |
| 13:48:58 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:48:58 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 13:48:58 | bzbot | rm -r (R): 1 (7-6). xabbu (G): -5 (12-17). [dmp] (G): -2 (0-2). trubi (G): 4 (6-2). zimbo (G): -9 (10-19). legion (penguins) (R): -7 (7-14). |
| 13:52:24 | jzaun | Hello |
| 13:52:27 | Chestal | jzaun! you're running a server list bot? |
| 13:52:43 | jzaun | a server list bot? |
| 13:52:59 | Chestal | I get connects from 205.201.58.40 periodically |
| 13:53:18 | jzaun | yes |
| 13:53:18 | Chestal | where can I see it? |
| 13:53:36 | jzaun | Chestal: not public *yet* but stats.bzflag.org |
| 13:54:07 | Chestal | hmm, interesting |
| 13:54:34 | jzaun | There is still alot of work thats need done |
| 13:54:58 | jzaun | but the basics work now |
| 13:58:00 | Chestal | all kinds of stats come to my mind |
| 13:58:16 | Chestal | for example 'most popular server' stats |
| 13:58:22 | jzaun | yah... they can definatly be expanded |
| 13:58:43 | jzaun | server stats arn't keps yet, just player stats |
| 13:58:48 | jzaun | I'm working on the map repository now |
| 13:59:22 | Chestal | would be nice if it would cache server information, woudl be easy then to print a list of all active players etc. |
| 13:59:32 | Chestal | i.e. players that are palyign right now and where |
| 13:59:59 | jzaun | It keeps last seend information |
| 14:00:21 | jzaun | if the last seen is < 2 min. old they would be online |
| 14:01:04 | Chestal | btw., I changed ducati 5155 settings, I'm quite fond of the new setup :-) |
| 14:01:05 | jzaun | I could whip up a "Whos Online" page |
| 14:13:14 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:13:14 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 14:13:14 | bzbot | purple shit (R): 0 (3-3). @@ (B): 0 (0-0). [dmp] (R): -3 (46-49). trubi (G): -4 (46-50). zimbo (G): -14 (66-80). Ace (R): 18 (50-32). rm -r (G): -3 (6-9). |
| 14:13:35 | | bugger all, i dunno, lurgyman |
| 14:13:35 | lurgyman | ibot: lurgyman? |
| 14:13:39 | | lurgyman: excuse me? |
| 14:13:39 | lurgyman | ibot: lurgyman |
| 14:13:45 | lurgyman | you're not excused |
| 14:13:51 | | /me is cool |
| 14:13:51 | lurgyman | ibot: /me |
| 14:13:55 | lurgyman | as he is |
| 14:14:08 | lurgyman | granted that made less sense than pork with marshmallows in it |
| 14:16:03 | gonkulator{work} | doughecka: I am not a bot |
| 14:17:20 | bomber | Pinguin? |
| 14:17:51 | bomber | Pinguin |
| 14:19:27 | jzaun | Chestal: ok, online player list works |
| 14:19:50 | Chestal | jzaun: great |
| 14:20:43 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:20:43 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 14:20:43 | bzbot | fred (G): -4 (2-6). Red Baron2 (R): -2 (5-7). [dmp] (R): -5 (62-67). rm -r (G): 7 (26-19). |
| 14:31:45 | doughecka | hey |
| 14:32:44 | patlabor221 | sup |
| 14:32:57 | doughecka | nothin |
| 14:33:22 | doughecka | I am gonna sell my ram |
| 14:33:57 | doughecka | that ram that I have goes for 36 bucks |
| 14:34:00 | doughecka | each |
| 14:34:11 | patlabor221 | yeah ECC is rare |
| 14:34:21 | patlabor221 | then you can get some real ram |
| 14:34:21 | jzaun | ebay, 512M ram 25 buck |
| 14:34:25 | jzaun | works like a charm |
| 14:34:54 | doughecka | so that will cover my mobo |
| 14:35:07 | doughecka | and I will get DDR ram in a few weeks |
| 14:35:15 | doughecka | jzaun: DDR? |
| 14:35:26 | doughecka | jzaun: NICE webpage |
| 14:35:43 | jzaun | patlabor221: yah |
| 14:36:05 | patlabor221 | 512 ddr for $25 is damn near imposible |
| 14:36:07 | patlabor221 | where? |
| 14:36:08 | jzaun | PC 166 gold connectors |
| 14:36:12 | doughecka | ah |
| 14:36:20 | jzaun | heh, ebay |
| 14:36:28 | patlabor221 | show me |
| 14:36:31 | jzaun | 3 weeks of looking and I found it |
| 14:36:32 | doughecka | well, I am gonna get DDR |
| 14:36:45 | jzaun | patlabor221: closed now, I bot it about a month ago |
| 14:37:00 | patlabor221 | that is an exceponaly rare deal |
| 14:37:09 | jzaun | tell me about it |
| 14:37:21 | jzaun | I had it tested when I got it... it perfect |
| 14:37:28 | doughecka | nice |
| 14:37:33 | doughecka | 25 hmmm |
| 14:37:55 | doughecka | temping, I could get PC instead of DDR... |
| 14:38:02 | patlabor221 | new its about $90 for PC2100 |
| 14:38:10 | jzaun | I caught it when he first but it up, so I used byeitnow rather than bid... it would have gone for much much more |
| 14:38:20 | doughecka | haha |
| 14:38:28 | doughecka | brb |
| 14:40:11 | doughecka | hmm |
| 14:40:23 | doughecka | I have 4 PC100 ECC 256 ram chips.. |
| 14:40:25 | doughecka | :) |
| 14:41:28 | sussudio | i have 84 1MB 30 pin simms |
| 14:41:33 | doughecka | haha |
| 14:42:29 | jzaun | :) |
| 14:42:56 | doughecka | goes back to school |
| 14:43:39 | sussudio | like rodney dangerfield? |
| 14:44:23 | jzaun | sussudio: yah |
| 14:54:53 | bzdoug_ | heres my ram... |
| 14:54:54 | bzdoug_ | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2053763746 |
| 14:56:49 | patlabor221 | should have put up a pic |
| 14:56:57 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 14:57:02 | bzdoug_ | no digital camera |
| 14:57:03 | bzdoug_ | :( |
| 15:01:01 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/ram.jpg |
| 15:01:03 | sussudio | use my pic |
| 15:01:30 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:01:30 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:01:30 | bzbot | anaconda bang bang (R): 1 (32-31). fred (G): -7 (27-34). zimbo (G): -9 (29-38). Serious Sam (G): 0 (0-0). Wozek (R): 1 (7-6). |
| 15:01:50 | bomber | Pinguin |
| 15:02:03 | bzdoug_ | haha |
| 15:02:10 | bzdoug_ | sell it on ebay for 10 bucks |
| 15:02:24 | sussudio | i dont think so tim |
| 15:04:47 | sussudio | ugh..... server2.thinknerd.de is back.... without any commandline parameters |
| 15:04:59 | sussudio | no jumping no flags no rogues |
| 15:05:04 | sussudio | no map |
| 15:09:56 | anaconda_bang_ba | hi |
| 15:10:50 | jzaun | hi |
| 15:10:54 | sussudio | hu |
| 15:14:33 | bzdoug_ | ? |
| 15:14:43 | jzaun | ? |
| 15:14:59 | jzaun | ?? |
| 15:14:59 | jzaun | ??? |
| 15:15:02 | jzaun | ???? |
| 15:15:02 | jzaun | ??? |
| 15:15:03 | jzaun | ?? |
| 15:15:10 | jzaun | ? |
| 15:15:21 | bzdoug_ | :? |
| 15:15:47 | jzaun | :? |
| 15:15:49 | jzaun | :?:? |
| 15:15:51 | jzaun | :?:?:? |
| 15:15:52 | jzaun | :?:? |
| 15:15:55 | jzaun | :? |
| 15:16:21 | Chestal | hmm,my simpel generated maps crash bzflag :-| |
| 15:16:43 | jzaun | Chestal: load them in BZE ans save them |
| 15:16:52 | jzaun | Chestal: that fixed 99% of the issues |
| 15:17:12 | Chestal | hmm? why would that be? |
| 15:17:32 | jzaun | not sure, just does... fixes some things I guess |
| 15:17:55 | Chestal | I generate them algorithmically |
| 15:18:16 | Chestal | and have no bzedit here |
| 15:18:22 | jzaun | not sure then, email it to me |
| 15:18:25 | jzaun | jzaun@jzaun.com |
| 15:18:45 | jzaun | I'll run it threw BZE and send it back |
| 15:18:57 | jzaun | you can compare any diffs |
| 15:19:19 | Chestal | righ tnow I am just doing random changes to the parameters, which helps |
| 15:19:52 | doughecka | is there anyway to extract maps off of servers? |
| 15:20:03 | doughecka | cant there be a little script that would pull it down? |
| 15:20:10 | doughecka | is that possible? |
| 15:20:15 | patlabor221 | cap told me of a console comamnd would do that |
| 15:20:20 | patlabor221 | don't remember what it was tho |
| 15:20:24 | jzaun | actually what I need to do myself is write a php script to veryify a map wont crash a server and all liks work and no place to get stuck etc. |
| 15:20:36 | doughecka | patlabor221: ah, neat |
| 15:20:41 | doughecka | in bzflag? |
| 15:21:03 | patlabor221 | where else would it be? |
| 15:21:10 | patlabor221 | wordpad? |
| 15:21:14 | jzaun | Need to make sure what people are submitting it the site won't crash servers |
| 15:21:17 | doughecka | a script |
| 15:21:26 | doughecka | jzaun: yea |
| 15:21:41 | jzaun | patlabor221: could be in ntkernl.dll |
| 15:21:44 | patlabor221 | then would I call it a console command? |
| 15:22:08 | doughecka | run teh script in teh console |
| 15:22:16 | patlabor221 | what console? |
| 15:22:41 | doughecka | oh |
| 15:22:46 | doughecka | was confused |
| 15:23:05 | patlabor221 | in the bz console |
| 15:23:07 | doughecka | so it was in 1.8 that lets you extract maps? |
| 15:23:12 | doughecka | or 1.7? |
| 15:23:16 | patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 15:23:16 | jzaun | 1,8 |
| 15:23:21 | jzaun | 1.7 has no console |
| 15:23:25 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 15:23:26 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:23:29 | patlabor221 | it has something |
| 15:23:36 | patlabor221 | to admin the server does it not? |
| 15:23:41 | jzaun | just /command things I think |
| 15:23:45 | doughecka | oh? |
| 15:23:50 | patlabor221 | that would be the console |
| 15:23:55 | doughecka | well, tha would be... |
| 15:23:57 | jzaun | in messgaes like /lagstat |
| 15:24:01 | patlabor221 | crack open the source and look |
| 15:24:14 | patlabor221 | use the brain. |
| 15:24:26 | doughecka | my ram does not show up in teh search on ebay... |
| 15:24:33 | doughecka | does it take awhile to show up? |
| 15:24:40 | jzaun | doughecka: yah |
| 15:24:47 | doughecka | ah, ok |
| 15:25:04 | doughecka | jzaun: is it possible to sort the active players by server? |
| 15:25:20 | jzaun | picky ain't ya? |
| 15:25:27 | doughecka | no |
| 15:25:30 | doughecka | just wonderin |
| 15:25:36 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:25:37 | jzaun | technically yah |
| 15:25:40 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:25:41 | jzaun | currently no |
| 15:25:48 | doughecka | hehe |
| 15:26:13 | jzaun | Just click on the server to get the info |
| 15:26:40 | doughecka | oh. neato |
| 15:26:53 | jzaun | heh, thats why its a link :-) |
| 15:27:01 | doughecka | neat! |
| 15:28:44 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:28:44 | [TeA]98 | ibot, ducati |
| 15:28:44 | bzbot | ty (R): 11 (20-9). fred (G): -9 (7-16). anxious (R): 0 (4-4). Dragon (G): -6 (1-7). |
| 15:28:58 | doughecka | wonders back into the class room |
| 15:29:04 | [TeA]98 | lol |
| 15:29:10 | [TeA]98 | have fun |
| 15:29:23 | jzaun | :) |
| 15:29:45 | sussudio | hm. box z 108. height 6. transporter 114. still end up in the box. |
| 15:29:47 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:29:47 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:29:48 | bzbot | ty (R): 10 (20-10). fred (G): -11 (7-18). anxious (R): 3 (8-5). Dragon (G): -6 (3-9). |
| 15:30:00 | Chestal | mengel: wie siehts eigentlich mit den Accounts aus? |
| 15:30:03 | Chestal | oops |
| 15:30:10 | [TeA]98 | hohoho´ |
| 15:30:48 | bzdoug_ | sussudio, what is the teleports size? |
| 15:31:13 | sussudio | err |
| 15:31:39 | sussudio | #!name Teleporter-199 |
| 15:31:39 | sussudio | teleporter |
| 15:31:39 | sussudio | position 65 -350 114 |
| 15:31:39 | sussudio | rotation 0 |
| 15:31:40 | sussudio | size 0.25 5 20 |
| 15:31:40 | sussudio | border 0 |
| 15:31:41 | sussudio | end |
| 15:31:53 | doughecka | hmmm |
| 15:32:16 | sussudio | #!name Box-109 |
| 15:32:17 | sussudio | box |
| 15:32:17 | sussudio | position 70 -350 108 |
| 15:32:17 | sussudio | rotation 10 |
| 15:32:17 | sussudio | size 30 50 6 |
| 15:32:17 | sussudio | end |
| 15:32:25 | doughecka | change the 0.25 to 0 |
| 15:32:29 | doughecka | and then try it |
| 15:32:35 | sussudio | why |
| 15:32:41 | doughecka | I had problems like that too |
| 15:32:44 | sussudio | hmz |
| 15:32:53 | sussudio | i'll just replace all the 0.25's |
| 15:33:01 | doughecka | yea |
| 15:33:09 | doughecka | you dont need the 0.25 |
| 15:33:19 | doughecka | that messes things up alittle |
| 15:33:31 | doughecka | not much, but it might be bothering it |
| 15:35:55 | sussudio | why do people run servers without mapfiles |
| 15:36:16 | sussudio | it's boooooooring |
| 15:36:16 | doughecka | hehe |
| 15:36:16 | doughecka | make one and send it to them |
| 15:36:25 | sussudio | they'd probably need admins for that |
| 15:36:35 | doughecka | hehe |
| 15:37:33 | sussudio | i was thinking of making a map with "BuBu Sux" at height 50, so you'd only see it when you jump |
| 15:37:40 | patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/tp.gif |
| 15:37:52 | patlabor221 | that was all the info I could get for a teleporter |
| 15:38:13 | patlabor221 | X should be less then the border |
| 15:38:26 | patlabor221 | or 1/2 the border specificly |
| 15:38:28 | sussudio | ... |
| 15:38:31 | sussudio | i had no border |
| 15:38:40 | patlabor221 | you need a border |
| 15:38:44 | sussudio | y |
| 15:39:00 | patlabor221 | its the thicknes of the yellow part |
| 15:39:05 | sussudio | i know |
| 15:39:05 | doughecka | haa |
| 15:39:31 | sussudio | i like them better without borders |
| 15:39:42 | patlabor221 | then x needs to be 0 |
| 15:39:43 | doughecka | make the border .1 |
| 15:39:52 | doughecka | you cant see it then |
| 15:39:55 | sussudio | :-| |
| 15:40:05 | patlabor221 | from the side they will be a line |
| 15:40:09 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:40:13 | doughecka | yea] |
| 15:40:34 | Cell_prog_insect | what s that :http://www.artemisgames.com/tp.gif |
| 15:40:35 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 15:40:41 | sussudio | patlabor221: can you make it so when i hover over a teleporter, it will show the corresponding link numberS? |
| 15:40:54 | patlabor221 | that is how a teleporter is made from the numbers in a map |
| 15:41:03 | sussudio | preferably per side |
| 15:41:08 | patlabor221 | no I will make it so you don't need link numbers :) |
| 15:41:15 | Cell_prog_insect | aha |
| 15:41:17 | doughecka | woo |
| 15:41:17 | patlabor221 | you just put in the source TP and side |
| 15:41:22 | patlabor221 | and the dest TP and side |
| 15:41:28 | doughecka | patlabor221: yes! |
| 15:41:29 | sussudio | k |
| 15:41:30 | doughecka | that would be cool |
| 15:41:37 | patlabor221 | then I will figure out the link IDS |
| 15:41:44 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:41:53 | doughecka | so it wont even hav e links? |
| 15:42:02 | patlabor221 | you will have links |
| 15:42:04 | doughecka | its all gonna be in the teleport info? |
| 15:42:06 | patlabor221 | just not link IDs |
| 15:42:07 | doughecka | oh |
| 15:42:08 | doughecka | ok |
| 15:42:10 | doughecka | k |
| 15:42:27 | patlabor221 | becasue you may not want to have a tp have a link |
| 15:42:31 | patlabor221 | like a fake TP |
| 15:42:33 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:42:44 | patlabor221 | or have both sides link to the same place |
| 15:42:48 | doughecka | like a window... |
| 15:42:50 | patlabor221 | or something like that |
| 15:42:57 | doughecka | ok |
| 15:43:02 | doughecka | when will that be out? |
| 15:43:03 | doughecka | :P |
| 15:43:10 | patlabor221 | when I feel like it |
| 15:43:20 | patlabor221 | right now I am doing real worl |
| 15:43:22 | patlabor221 | work |
| 15:43:31 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:43:55 | patlabor221 | you know that stuff that makes money so I don't have to save my allowance to get a mobo |
| 15:44:05 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 15:44:12 | patlabor221 | ?!? |
| 15:44:27 | Cell_prog_insect | stuff that makes money? |
| 15:44:32 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 15:44:33 | patlabor221 | work |
| 15:44:38 | sussudio | patlabor221: supersize it? |
| 15:44:42 | Cell_prog_insect | ah |
| 15:44:43 | patlabor221 | jobs and all that |
| 15:44:55 | patlabor221 | being a productve member of society. |
| 15:45:03 | patlabor221 | supersize what? |
| 15:45:08 | sussudio | society... bad movie |
| 15:45:12 | Cell_prog_insect | game development jobs |
| 15:45:17 | sussudio | patlabor221: my fries |
| 15:45:30 | sussudio | calls the manager |
| 15:45:38 | patlabor221 | I no longet work in the food service industry |
| 15:45:47 | patlabor221 | I work at a software company |
| 15:45:47 | sussudio | damn. i was hungry too. |
| 15:45:56 | Cell_prog_insect | i think game development would not cut out the cake for me |
| 15:46:04 | sussudio | hmm cake |
| 15:46:11 | patlabor221 | http://www.GibbsCAM.com |
| 15:46:11 | doughecka | cookies! |
| 15:46:28 | doughecka | yah |
| 15:46:39 | patlabor221 | you can make money in Game dev |
| 15:46:47 | patlabor221 | just like any other company |
| 15:46:55 | doughecka | join unreal or something.... |
| 15:47:03 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 15:47:05 | patlabor221 | unreal? |
| 15:47:08 | Cell_prog_insect | its hard work, hardest maybe, and its only for 'stupid' entertainment |
| 15:47:17 | doughecka | yea, help develepe it |
| 15:47:27 | patlabor221 | you mean Epic |
| 15:47:30 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:47:31 | doughecka | yes |
| 15:47:40 | patlabor221 | GDef is just as hard or as easy as anything else |
| 15:47:48 | patlabor221 | I've done it as well |
| 15:47:59 | sussudio | god i hope no noobs end up there |
| 15:48:00 | sussudio | http://arstechnica.com/guide/building/bios/bios-1.html |
| 15:48:00 | patlabor221 | all depends on how well orginised you are |
| 15:48:19 | sussudio | imagines grandma overclocking her bus to 200mhz |
| 15:48:30 | patlabor221 | bad design will kill any project, entertainment or otherwise. |
| 15:48:42 | doughecka | haha |
| 15:49:29 | doughecka | hey! |
| 15:49:48 | sussudio | yo? |
| 15:50:40 | | salut, sussudio |
| 15:50:40 | sussudio | ibot: hi |
| 15:51:10 | Cell_prog_insect | someone knows a cool sound and theme composer studio or something like that? |
| 15:51:58 | sussudio | no |
| 15:51:59 | Cell_prog_insect | i jus dont want to try to compose my own sound |
| 15:53:04 | sussudio | for leeeeeeeeeenux? |
| 15:53:46 | Cell_prog_insect | of cooooooz noooooooot |
| 15:53:57 | sussudio | blah |
| 15:55:15 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:55:15 | [TeA]98 | ibot, ducati |
| 15:55:15 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 15:55:35 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:55:35 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:55:36 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 15:57:02 | patlabor221 | doug: I will prolby do the folowing things to BZEditW32 In this order |
| 15:57:26 | doug_school | ok |
| 15:57:27 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:57:27 | [TeA]98 | ibot, ducati |
| 15:57:28 | bzbot | MIRELLA (G): 0 (1-1). Bad to the bones! (R): -1 (0-1). |
| 15:57:38 | patlabor221 | externalise and conslodate the map reading and writing clases so they can be used by any editor |
| 15:57:56 | doug_school | like cappys editor? |
| 15:58:10 | patlabor221 | he uses the same classes already |
| 15:58:15 | doug_school | or a generic editor? |
| 15:58:18 | doug_school | oh, ok |
| 15:58:24 | patlabor221 | any editor front end |
| 15:58:32 | doug_school | k |
| 15:58:36 | patlabor221 | it will be a map edit API |
| 15:58:43 | doug_school | cool |
| 15:58:46 | doug_school | then.... |
| 15:59:02 | patlabor221 | then I will add plugins and an API to my editor so that other people can easaly extend the editor |
| 15:59:16 | doug_school | cool! |
| 15:59:31 | patlabor221 | then fix up the teleporter stuff and make some minor interfance enhancments |
| 15:59:34 | scan[ibook] | patlabor221: it would be cool if your plugin API was the same as captain_proton's |
| 15:59:36 | doug_school | ok |
| 15:59:39 | doug_school | and groups! |
| 15:59:41 | patlabor221 | then groups if I'm still interested |
| 15:59:48 | doug_school | ok |
| 16:00:18 | doug_school | if... |
| 16:00:19 | patlabor221 | scan: I will not do scripting, just DLLs, if he can implement it in a similar manner then that's fine |
| 16:00:39 | scan[ibook] | patlabor221: why not embedded python scripting? |
| 16:00:42 | doug_school | hehe |
| 16:00:53 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:00:53 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 16:00:54 | bzbot | MIRELLA (G): -3 (0-3). Bad to the bones! (R): 3 (8-5). bamf. (R): 0 (0-0). Satan's Evil Twin (G): -2 (1-3). Serious Sam (G): -1 (3-4). uboat (R): 0 (2-2). |
| 16:01:01 | doug_school | or both? |
| 16:01:05 | scan[ibook] | python and C are pretty easy to use together |
| 16:01:14 | patlabor221 | scan: becasue 1) I don't know python, 2) I don't know how to hook it into C, and 3 I know DLL's very well |
| 16:01:25 | doug_school | ah |
| 16:01:25 | scan[ibook] | heh |
| 16:01:44 | patlabor221 | I do not want to put a huge amount of time into it |
| 16:01:55 | doug_school | ah, lunch |
| 16:02:00 | scan[ibook] | WindowsPleaseGiveMeTheAddressOfSomeProcedureFromADLLNow() |
| 16:02:04 | doug_school | is away: lunnnch |
| 16:02:23 | doug_school | scan: haha |
| 16:02:57 | patlabor221 | also known as GetProcAddress() |
| 16:03:11 | doughecka | heh |
| 16:03:13 | patlabor221 | and LoadLibrary() |
| 16:03:19 | scan[ibook] | still longer than dlsym() and dlopen() :) |
| 16:03:27 | patlabor221 | so? |
| 16:03:41 | patlabor221 | at least they are more descriptive |
| 16:03:46 | doughecka | we are not using 640k of ram here |
| 16:04:01 | doughecka | we have 100s of megs |
| 16:04:03 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:04:06 | scan[ibook] | just giving you a hard time for no reason.. I've always thought the Win32 API was annoying |
| 16:04:12 | doughecka | no need to save room |
| 16:04:13 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 16:04:22 | patlabor221 | becasue it uses names that make sense? |
| 16:04:27 | patlabor221 | GDI is anying |
| 16:04:36 | patlabor221 | but the regular OS stuff is not bad |
| 16:04:44 | patlabor221 | Old Scoool win32 |
| 16:05:10 | patlabor221 | the shell stuff is not the gratest |
| 16:05:25 | patlabor221 | and there is little to no interprocess communication |
| 16:05:31 | patlabor221 | but the rest is quite usable. |
| 16:09:24 | patlabor221 | at least it's better then the mac API |
| 16:09:34 | doughecka | lol |
| 16:09:37 | scan[ibook] | Win32 functions generally have way too many arguments |
| 16:09:53 | scan[ibook] | like CreateProcess with 10 parameters instead of fork with 0 |
| 16:10:16 | scan[ibook] | unix takes more of a state machine approach, like OpenGL. It makes the interfaces easier to understand and easier to upgrade |
| 16:11:48 | patlabor221 | yes that is the part that sucks, the multithreading |
| 16:12:08 | scan[ibook] | well, IIRC the GUI-related function calls werent' any better |
| 16:12:21 | patlabor221 | they are well defined |
| 16:12:24 | patlabor221 | and usable |
| 16:12:33 | scan[ibook] | it's the whole strategy of passing like 8 structures to a function, instead of creating an object then setting the parameters you want |
| 16:12:38 | patlabor221 | I see nothing wrong with large argument lists |
| 16:12:52 | patlabor221 | makes a lot lets function calls |
| 16:13:25 | scan[ibook] | that's not a good thing |
| 16:13:32 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 16:14:19 | scan[ibook] | if you add extra parameters that must be set when creating a button for example, instead of just making a new function to set that after creating the button they have to make a new version of the function that creates the button |
| 16:14:23 | scan[ibook] | causes crufty buildup |
| 16:15:38 | patlabor221 | true, but a lot of options for buttons are set on creatw proc or in the winclass, and you just do those once |
| 16:15:41 | scan[ibook] | does not use MacOS either.. it's API is even worse and it's slow |
| 16:15:56 | patlabor221 | 95% of the time you allways use the same stuff to make buttons and such |
| 16:16:14 | scan[ibook] | patlabor221: that was just an example, the same thing happens all over the API |
| 16:16:26 | patlabor221 | well most of the world still uses it |
| 16:16:38 | scan[ibook] | because of marketing and economics |
| 16:16:47 | scan[ibook] | it's pretty generally accepted as a horrible API |
| 16:16:49 | patlabor221 | I tied to look at the raw X code to bring up a window, it was nasty |
| 16:16:56 | scan[ibook] | yeah, the X api is bad too |
| 16:17:02 | patlabor221 | and everyone tells me just to use a widget wraper |
| 16:17:15 | patlabor221 | and I'm like shit and you people complain about MFC |
| 16:17:25 | scan[ibook] | ha |
| 16:17:25 | patlabor221 | wiht MFC UI stuff is rather easy |
| 16:17:32 | scan[ibook] | if you want a framework-ish thing for X, use Qt |
| 16:17:44 | patlabor221 | but is that installed on all systems? |
| 16:17:57 | scan[ibook] | nothing is installed on all systems |
| 16:18:02 | doughecka | heh |
| 16:18:05 | patlabor221 | and if I make a binary will it run on all systems |
| 16:18:18 | scan[ibook] | if you make a windows binary it won't run on all systems |
| 16:18:27 | doughecka | pff |
| 16:18:32 | patlabor221 | sure it will |
| 16:18:36 | patlabor221 | depends what I do |
| 16:18:43 | patlabor221 | it will run on all win32 systems |
| 16:19:01 | scan[ibook] | There's no such thing as a standard linux system, and I think that's a good thing |
| 16:19:02 | Chestal | UI programming sucks - always |
| 16:19:34 | sussudio | win16 stuff wont run properly on NT based windows like NT4, 2K, XP |
| 16:19:53 | patlabor221 | well that's why noone makes 16 bases stuff anymore |
| 16:19:57 | doughecka | win16 |
| 16:19:58 | doughecka | ? |
| 16:20:01 | doughecka | bah |
| 16:20:05 | scan[ibook] | Chestal: some systems suck less than others :) |
| 16:20:08 | patlabor221 | old win 3.1 stuff |
| 16:20:31 | patlabor221 | i can make an app that will work on 95 or higher |
| 16:20:31 | sussudio | win16 runs better on os2 than it does on NT..... ironic. |
| 16:20:42 | patlabor221 | well NT is BSD |
| 16:20:44 | doughecka | hehe |
| 16:20:47 | sussudio | no. |
| 16:20:49 | sussudio | NT is VMS |
| 16:20:53 | doughecka | :? |
| 16:20:55 | patlabor221 | no |
| 16:20:59 | sussudio | yesh |
| 16:21:00 | doughecka | haha |
| 16:21:01 | Chestal | ah, OS/2, those were the days |
| 16:21:03 | sussudio | look it up |
| 16:21:03 | patlabor221 | no |
| 16:21:07 | doughecka | no |
| 16:21:08 | Chestal | it's neither |
| 16:21:13 | sussudio | well whatever. i know it's so. |
| 16:21:14 | patlabor221 | honestly I don't care |
| 16:21:16 | doughecka | its WINDOWS! |
| 16:21:20 | Chestal | but AFAIK it has some connections to VMS |
| 16:21:25 | patlabor221 | dough shut up |
| 16:21:34 | patlabor221 | I know they started with something |
| 16:21:36 | sussudio | like the guy they hired to create NT |
| 16:21:42 | doughecka | heh |
| 16:21:48 | patlabor221 | and I am glad that they desuported the old API |
| 16:21:51 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:21:51 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 16:21:52 | bzbot | Mayhem (G): 0 (7-7). bamf. (R): 12 (20-8). anaconda bang bang (R): -5 (31-36). Satan's Evil Twin (G): -26 (33-59). Serious Sam (G): -6 (41-47). uboat (R): -8 (32-40). |
| 16:21:59 | patlabor221 | it's memory managemnt was horible |
| 16:22:11 | patlabor221 | you have to change with the times |
| 16:26:19 | patlabor221 | I am still looking for something like MSDN in linux |
| 16:26:30 | patlabor221 | closets thing I've found is the man page stuff in Kdevelop |
| 16:27:08 | scan[ibook] | wonders what it is that makes people like IDEs |
| 16:27:16 | patlabor221 | eas of use |
| 16:27:27 | patlabor221 | everything all in one place |
| 16:27:34 | scan[ibook] | maybe |
| 16:27:40 | patlabor221 | I love my help tools |
| 16:27:41 | scan[ibook] | I've just never found them easy to use |
| 16:27:46 | patlabor221 | and the class browsers |
| 16:27:56 | patlabor221 | and callers graphs |
| 16:28:23 | patlabor221 | and with integrated version controls |
| 16:28:26 | patlabor221 | man is it nice |
| 16:28:44 | scan[ibook] | man, emacs, cvs, make... |
| 16:28:45 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:28:45 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 16:28:45 | bzbot | Mayhem (G): 3 (28-25). bamf. (R): 14 (38-24). anaconda bang bang (R): 8 (57-49). Metal Magic The Ace Of Aces (G): 0 (0-0). Serious Sam (G): -10 (51-61). uboat (R): -15 (46-61). xabbu (G): -4 (9-13). legion (penguins) (R): -6 (4-10). |
| 16:28:57 | patlabor221 | I hit F1 and I got the full decription of any API function |
| 16:29:16 | patlabor221 | I right click and I can go to it's def in the header |
| 16:29:29 | patlabor221 | I can set a breakpoint right as I'm coding |
| 16:29:40 | patlabor221 | then hit F5 and run and get right there |
| 16:30:07 | patlabor221 | I don't see how anyone could do a large progject with out it |
| 16:30:29 | patlabor221 | just for sheer file management between all the modules. |
| 16:31:07 | patlabor221 | if I get a compiler error, I just double click it and bam I'm right there |
| 16:31:43 | patlabor221 | but they tell me that you can get emacs and VI to do all that too if you extend it |
| 16:32:26 | scan[ibook] | yeah |
| 16:32:40 | scan[ibook] | I usually use a separate debugger and such though... I love ddd |
| 16:33:11 | scan[ibook] | ddd has the usual graphical debugger features, but it can graph complex data structures while you debug your code |
| 16:33:25 | scan[ibook] | so it's great for walking through trees and such |
| 16:33:26 | patlabor221 | well on windows there are 3rd party debugers that work with visual studio as well |
| 16:33:35 | patlabor221 | but the debuger in VC is realy nice |
| 16:33:53 | patlabor221 | it will also show me anything I want with the data |
| 16:34:06 | patlabor221 | the best one I have seen was the one that came with codewarior |
| 16:34:36 | patlabor221 | I haven't played much wiht lin debugers |
| 16:34:41 | patlabor221 | I've only used 2 ides there |
| 16:34:49 | patlabor221 | Anjunta and Kdevelop |
| 16:35:10 | scan[ibook] | haven't tried those... I just like the command line better |
| 16:35:12 | scan[ibook] | more control |
| 16:35:16 | patlabor221 | I like the featureset of Anjunta but it's lacking the help stuff of Kdevelop |
| 16:35:49 | patlabor221 | well in windows I have just as much controll as a make file does in VC |
| 16:36:11 | patlabor221 | if I want to I can set the individual compiler options |
| 16:36:18 | patlabor221 | per file if need be |
| 16:36:57 | patlabor221 | and there are all sorts of pre and post build script steps that can be added |
| 16:37:38 | patlabor221 | adn since VC6 we have edit and contine |
| 16:37:42 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:37:42 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 16:37:42 | bzbot | Mayhem (G): 1 (50-49). Sadista Muff (G): 5 (15-10). anaconda bang bang (R): 7 (81-74). Metal Magic The Ace Of Aces (G): -9 (12-21). Serious Sam (R): -9 (5-14). uboat (R): -19 (64-83). xabbu (G): 0 (34-34). legion (penguins) (R): -15 (20-35). @b (P): 0 (0-0). |
| 16:38:06 | patlabor221 | you can break in the debuger, edit, recompile and contine right were you were with the new code |
| 16:38:14 | patlabor221 | most of the tiem |
| 16:38:15 | patlabor221 | time |
| 16:38:27 | patlabor221 | if you seriouly mess with memory you are screwed. |
| 16:38:37 | patlabor221 | but its nice to have some times |
| 16:39:22 | patlabor221 | now VC 7 or (.net) is a Dog |
| 16:39:26 | patlabor221 | I won't use that thing yet |
| 16:39:40 | patlabor221 | not till it gets it's first service pack |
| 16:52:52 | jzaun | Anyone good at making icons? |
| 16:53:02 | patlabor221 | for? |
| 16:53:08 | jzaun | websites |
| 16:53:23 | patlabor221 | I mean Icons of what? |
| 16:53:47 | jzaun | Edit Prefs., Add Map, Edit Maps |
| 16:54:07 | jzaun | Read Messages, Write Message |
| 16:54:31 | patlabor221 | I can perhaps help when I get some time later today |
| 16:54:38 | jzaun | Cool |
| 16:54:39 | jzaun | thanks |
| 16:54:56 | patlabor221 | emial me a list of what you want |
| 16:54:58 | patlabor221 | and what size |
| 16:55:12 | jzaun | addr? |
| 16:55:50 | patlabor221 | JeffM@GibbsCAM.com |
| 16:57:33 | captain_proton | go ask jimmac :) |
| 17:01:45 | jzaun | ok sent :-) |
| 17:01:48 | jzaun | hey captain_proton |
| 17:02:54 | jzaun | brb |
| 17:03:14 | sussudio | what does a green X mean in bzedit |
| 17:04:21 | patlabor221 | in the world? |
| 17:04:30 | sussudio | um. yeah. |
| 17:04:44 | patlabor221 | that is the all mighty X axis |
| 17:04:52 | patlabor221 | and the origin |
| 17:04:54 | sussudio | hmmmmk |
| 17:05:04 | patlabor221 | it just shows you what way X + is |
| 17:05:16 | patlabor221 | you can turn off the grid if you want |
| 17:05:22 | patlabor221 | there is one for Y+ as well |
| 17:05:31 | sussudio | the red thing |
| 17:05:38 | patlabor221 | it helps if you spin the view around a lot |
| 17:05:46 | patlabor221 | to know where the axes are |
| 17:05:52 | sussudio | hmmk |
| 17:06:04 | captain_proton | queues up episode 5 of blakes7 - the one everybody agrees is the worst one ever |
| 17:06:14 | patlabor221 | when all you had was the ability to type in positons it was very important |
| 17:06:19 | patlabor221 | now wiht the mouse stuff |
| 17:06:23 | patlabor221 | not so important |
| 17:06:25 | sussudio | captain_proton: which one is that |
| 17:10:43 | sussudio | if a box is at elevation 6 and the height is 1.... the floor of the box is 7? |
| 17:11:00 | sussudio | needs more caffeine |
| 17:13:17 | patlabor221 | no 6 |
| 17:13:24 | patlabor221 | boxes go Up |
| 17:13:40 | patlabor221 | or I should say Z scales go up |
| 17:13:50 | patlabor221 | X and Y go both dirs |
| 17:14:05 | patlabor221 | the Z value is the floor |
| 17:14:09 | sussudio | so the bottom of the box is at 5 |
| 17:15:29 | sussudio | WWWWWWTFFFFFF |
| 17:15:34 | sussudio | it saved my map 0 bytes |
| 17:16:09 | sussudio | gah good thing i had a backup. |
| 17:16:12 | captain_proton | bwahahahahaha |
| 17:16:14 | captain_proton | bzflag.net:5155 |
| 17:17:45 | scan[ibook] | captain_proton: you have the first key to conquer the world, your own domain |
| 17:18:04 | scan[ibook] | captain_proton: order the second for only 15 easy payments of $19.99, call now! |
| 17:18:57 | patlabor221 | no if the z of the box is 6 then the floor is 6 |
| 17:19:06 | patlabor221 | if it is 1 tall then the top is 7 |
| 17:19:33 | sussudio | patlabor221: i said that at first |
| 17:21:00 | patlabor221 | you said: if a box is at elevation 6 and the height is 1.... the floor of the box is 7? |
| 17:21:15 | patlabor221 | and I said : no 6 |
| 17:21:30 | patlabor221 | the floor is allways the z value for the pos |
| 17:21:44 | patlabor221 | the top is allways the z pos + the z scale |
| 17:21:51 | patlabor221 | X and Y are difrent |
| 17:24:02 | patlabor221 | I should proalby make an image for the other elements like I did for the teleporter. |
| 17:24:13 | patlabor221 | the only place it's realy defined is in code. |
| 17:27:00 | sussudio | ... |
| 17:45:49 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 17:46:07 | captain_proton | my roommate is off to do a chem lab where he converts pure copper to pure copper through the use of many dangerous chemicals |
| 17:47:19 | scan[ibook] | haha |
| 17:47:35 | captain_proton | decides that nightwish will be some decent coding music |
| 17:47:39 | doug_school | lol |
| 17:58:33 | patlabor221 | and they teach you to do this because |
| 17:58:57 | captain_proton | no clue |
| 17:59:04 | captain_proton | doesn't have to do any chem |
| 18:00:06 | sussudio | must be sponsored by "dangerouschemicals ltd." |
| 18:05:36 | captain_proton | bwahaha |
| 18:05:44 | captain_proton | the extra windows in bzedit are gonna be dockable |
| 18:10:49 | patlabor221 | mine are now perma docked |
| 18:10:56 | patlabor221 | ever since 1.5 |
| 18:11:14 | patlabor221 | or as I call them, molecularly bonded |
| 18:11:39 | doug_school | haha |
| 18:12:05 | doug_school | the battle of bzeditors |
| 18:12:15 | patlabor221 | I should make them dockbars tho |
| 18:12:26 | patlabor221 | or rebars as they are called |
| 18:12:43 | doug_school | hehe |
| 18:12:52 | patlabor221 | but then that would require everyone with 95 to have at least IE3 |
| 18:13:11 | captain_proton | mine the entire app is gonna be a dockarea |
| 18:13:19 | doug_school | pat: ow, really? |
| 18:13:20 | captain_proton | so you can organize the workspace however you desire |
| 18:13:22 | doug_school | :P |
| 18:13:27 | patlabor221 | well my toolbars allready are |
| 18:13:39 | patlabor221 | I just got those 2 that arn't |
| 18:13:59 | patlabor221 | if they were rebars they would be resizeable and docable |
| 18:14:10 | patlabor221 | but I am more concerned with features then looks |
| 18:14:24 | patlabor221 | like the plugins |
| 18:14:39 | doug_school | yea! |
| 18:14:41 | doug_school | and groups |
| 18:14:43 | patlabor221 | so that when people want specal stuff I can just scoff and tell them to make it themseves |
| 18:14:48 | patlabor221 | and then not help them |
| 18:14:50 | captain_proton | groups are gonna be the big thing in this new one for me |
| 18:14:58 | patlabor221 | groups involves more then just an interface |
| 18:15:14 | patlabor221 | multiple selctions are needed for that |
| 18:15:21 | captain_proton | yes |
| 18:15:27 | patlabor221 | that's why I am waiting to see how cap does it so I can steal his code |
| 18:16:01 | doug_school | haha |
| 18:16:08 | patlabor221 | but now I must get fooooooood. |
| 18:16:09 | doug_school | hurry up cap |
| 18:16:15 | doug_school | Mmmm Mmmmm goood |
| 18:16:34 | patlabor221 | just because he huries does not mean I will do it any faster. |
| 18:16:48 | captain_proton | haha |
| 18:16:58 | doug_school | oh |
| 18:17:39 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 18:17:42 | doug_school | cap: how hard would it be to pport it to windows? |
| 18:17:45 | captain_proton | i'd forgotten how damn good nightwish is |
| 18:17:56 | captain_proton | doug_school: a direct port? mucho difficult |
| 18:18:05 | doug_school | hmm |
| 18:18:07 | captain_proton | i suppose if i do the interface right it would be easier |
| 18:18:12 | doug_school | indirect port? |
| 18:18:16 | doug_school | hmm |
| 18:18:17 | doug_school | ok |
| 18:18:26 | captain_proton | i was thinking of changing to more of an MVC architecture |
| 18:18:34 | doug_school | k |
| 18:18:57 | doug_school | so what about the gnome parts? how hars would it be to remove all it? |
| 18:19:21 | doug_school | hard* |
| 18:19:48 | captain_proton | right now the gnome parts are the interface |
| 18:19:56 | doug_school | oh |
| 18:20:00 | captain_proton | though i'll likely be adding gconf stuff |
| 18:20:41 | doug_school | cant you take bzflag and build an editor with it? |
| 18:21:11 | doug_school | then it would be cross platform |
| 18:21:20 | captain_proton | possible i suppose |
| 18:21:26 | doug_school | hmm, k |
| 18:21:32 | captain_proton | but such a big project that i wouldn't take it on |
| 18:21:36 | doug_school | ah |
| 18:21:40 | captain_proton | there's so much cruft in bzflag its not really worth it |
| 18:21:45 | captain_proton | better to do it with a real interface |
| 18:21:45 | doug_school | ok |
| 18:21:58 | doug_school | yea |
| 18:23:24 | captain_proton | waits patiently for orbit2-cpp to compile |
| 18:28:02 | captain_proton | yay for classically trained heavy metal :) |
| 18:40:22 | patlabor221 | well cap we are using the same basic world container |
| 18:40:47 | patlabor221 | could make a "function" container |
| 18:40:57 | patlabor221 | then it would jsut be interface on top of that |
| 18:41:14 | captain_proton | oh, another thing i wanted to add support for was the ill-documented world entry in the map file |
| 18:41:29 | patlabor221 | WTF? |
| 18:41:55 | captain_proton | there's actually a way to make worlds sized other than 800x800 |
| 18:42:31 | patlabor221 | a frikin mazing |
| 18:42:44 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 18:43:03 | patlabor221 | too bad it's all for naught tho when 1.8 blows it all outa the water |
| 18:43:29 | captain_proton | i figure its worth it since 1.8 is going so slow |
| 18:43:40 | patlabor221 | turue |
| 18:43:54 | anaconda | hi |
| 18:44:05 | patlabor221 | I'm making some tweaks to the world container |
| 18:44:13 | patlabor221 | then I will send it to you |
| 18:45:58 | captain_proton | plus all the stuff we learn while doing these editors will make the 1.8 editors supah-l33t |
| 18:46:27 | patlabor221 | well that one is gonna be intersting |
| 18:47:36 | captain_proton | pets his domain name lovingly |
| 18:47:44 | patlabor221 | freak |
| 18:49:22 | captain_proton | wonders what all the sirens are for |
| 18:49:43 | patlabor221 | bwahahahahahahaha |
| 18:49:52 | patlabor221 | i'd hide man |
| 18:50:03 | captain_proton | naw, they're sirens, not psirens ;) |
| 18:50:12 | patlabor221 | I sent them there for you |
| 18:50:17 | captain_proton | ohh |
| 18:50:33 | patlabor221 | told them to look under yer bed |
| 18:50:33 | captain_proton | prepares to fight off the white men in nice coats |
| 18:51:01 | patlabor221 | ohh not those guys |
| 18:51:20 | captain_proton | then who? |
| 18:51:25 | patlabor221 | they are the "specal" people. |
| 18:51:30 | captain_proton | btw the only things under my bed are the dressers and a trash can |
| 18:51:37 | patlabor221 | so you think |
| 18:51:47 | captain_proton | i guess technically there are a couple boxes of poptarts down there too |
| 18:52:01 | patlabor221 | Orbial Drop toopers. |
| 18:52:56 | captain_proton | wonders if he ever gets to see macross plus |
| 18:53:10 | patlabor221 | I'm guessing not |
| 18:53:16 | patlabor221 | since somone ganked my DVDs |
| 18:53:29 | patlabor221 | you can see if scanline has it |
| 18:54:22 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara jupiter]$ rsync rsync://navi.picogui.org/public/media/anime/ |
| 18:54:22 | captain_proton | drwxr-xr-x 4096 2002/06/11 04:06:47 . |
| 18:54:22 | captain_proton | drwxr-xr-x 4096 2002/08/23 09:02:56 cowboy_bebop |
| 18:54:22 | captain_proton | drwxr-xr-x 4096 2002/08/26 10:53:37 excel_saga |
| 18:54:22 | captain_proton | drwxr-xr-x 4096 2002/08/23 06:14:32 neon_genesis_evangelion |
| 18:54:23 | captain_proton | drwxr-xr-x 4096 2002/08/21 06:02:04 serial_experiments_lain |
| 18:55:06 | captain_proton | thats it |
| 18:55:15 | patlabor221 | well that's all he has there |
| 18:55:21 | patlabor221 | he may have the real DVDs |
| 18:55:50 | patlabor221 | and how can you get to that when I can't? |
| 18:55:57 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 18:58:16 | Chestal | hi tank |
| 19:01:06 | anaconda | is saying good bye |
| 19:01:38 | tankmann | hey chestal |
| 19:02:05 | tankmann | ich glaub ich kann nicht mehr bzflag spielen, ich werd bestimmt total fertig gemacht |
| 19:04:00 | captain_proton | patlabor221: found me a good dealio on that sb live? :) |
| 19:04:08 | patlabor221 | very cool, how much? |
| 19:04:22 | patlabor221 | ohh from us |
| 19:04:28 | patlabor221 | no we don't sell them |
| 19:04:32 | captain_proton | poo |
| 19:04:34 | patlabor221 | let me see who else does for you |
| 19:04:50 | patlabor221 | seems we only get deals on OEM stuff |
| 19:05:02 | patlabor221 | and it has to go with a new system |
| 19:06:01 | captain_proton | goes to check the mail |
| 19:09:12 | patlabor221 | looks like best price is about $31 with shiping |
| 19:11:16 | captain_proton | checks how much money he has |
| 19:14:12 | captain_proton | 750 in checking, that works |
| 19:15:18 | PerfectCell | patlabor221:what is jetstream? |
| 19:16:08 | scanline | is back (gone 10:18:54) |
| 19:16:41 | patlabor221 | a super secret project that I am not allowed to talk about |
| 19:16:47 | patlabor221 | lest I be shot |
| 19:17:40 | captain_proton | whips out his ghetto blaster |
| 19:17:53 | PerfectCell | oh |
| 19:19:25 | patlabor221 | actualy it's caps thing |
| 19:19:51 | captain_proton | starts the warm-up process on the blaster |
| 19:20:06 | patlabor221 | do you have to shout "charging up!!! |
| 19:20:07 | patlabor221 | "? |
| 19:21:12 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 19:21:24 | patlabor221 | sw33t |
| 19:23:48 | captain_proton | woo |
| 19:23:56 | captain_proton | is the proud owner of a brand new sb live 5.1 |
| 19:24:14 | patlabor221 | where did you get it from |
| 19:24:22 | patlabor221 | beat that kid down the hall for it? |
| 19:24:29 | captain_proton | nutrend.com |
| 19:24:44 | captain_proton | $32, should be here in 3-4 days |
| 19:25:01 | patlabor221 | that sounds like it hurts |
| 19:25:17 | captain_proton | hurts? |
| 19:25:21 | patlabor221 | nut rend |
| 19:25:37 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 19:26:08 | patlabor221 | bah you have no imagination |
| 19:27:47 | captain_proton | decides to upload some music for patlabor221 |
| 19:28:09 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/music/ |
| 19:28:20 | captain_proton | bestest metal band ever |
| 19:29:37 | patlabor221 | is presently using 100% of his CPU |
| 19:33:07 | captain_proton | whips a ghettoblaster shot off at patlabor221 for letting info about jetstream slip |
| 19:33:44 | patlabor221 | has sheilds up |
| 19:34:01 | captain_proton | starts the warmup process again for another shot |
| 19:34:53 | patlabor221 | sheild power at 95% and charging |
| 19:35:06 | patlabor221 | reactive dampening online |
| 19:36:42 | captain_proton | i have a feeling mine takes longer to charge |
| 19:37:48 | patlabor221 | well when the shielding system is being feed by a reflex furnace 3km below the ground, you got some power to spare. |
| 19:38:04 | captain_proton | um gesh dee bork bork |
| 19:38:35 | patlabor221 | ?!? |
| 19:40:27 | captain_proton | yes |
| 19:40:40 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 19:42:33 | scanline | captain_proton: bzflag needs more bump mapping |
| 19:42:56 | scanline | and super-extra-high-res brick textures! |
| 19:43:26 | captain_proton | as riker would have said had he not just left |
| 19:43:28 | captain_proton | patches welcome ;-) |
| 19:43:47 | scanline | indeed. I suppose I should look at BZFlag's source code more.. i've only glanced at it |
| 19:44:17 | captain_proton | leaves |
| 19:44:57 | patlabor221 | since it only realy has like 7 models I should be easy to hardcode it all |
| 20:12:53 | jzaun | is here, all my rejoice |
| 20:13:49 | sussudio | anyone want to have a quick look at my map? |
| 20:14:02 | sussudio | maybe i overdid it a bit... |
| 20:21:27 | sussudio | nevermind... |
| 20:59:36 | gonkulator{work} | is away: working |
| 22:53:23 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: US needs to be added to if (strcmp(argv[i], "bad") == 0) { |
| 22:55:05 | captain_proton | US isn't a bad flag |
| 22:55:15 | captain_proton | its just a...flag |
| 22:55:23 | doughecka | US? |
| 22:56:05 | MrApathyCream | can you drop it? |
| 22:56:38 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, can't do +f bad or -f good |
| 22:56:45 | MrApathyCream | seems odd |
| 22:58:33 | MrApathyCream | heh, tried bz, forgot 3d was turned on... took me a sec |
| 23:00:35 | mandy | helloo |
| 23:00:38 | captain_proton | yeah you can drop it |
| 23:00:50 | captain_proton | :) |
| 23:01:22 | MrApathyCream | ok... i stand corrected |
| 23:02:39 | captain_proton | '3d turned on' - you mean anaglyph? |
| 23:11:35 | patlabor221 | what does US stand for? |
| 23:11:51 | patlabor221 | UnStopable? |
| 23:26:12 | jzaun | Comunity or Community? |
| 23:27:13 | doughecka | HOHOHO! |
| 23:27:15 | doughecka | US flag! |
| 23:27:24 | doughecka | Useless flag. Prints an incredibly witty remark on the screen to the effect of "You have found the useless flag. Use it wisely." |
| 23:27:42 | doughecka | Cow launcher? |
| 23:33:59 | captain_proton | community |
| 23:34:11 | doughecka | captain_proton: cow launcher? |
| 23:34:16 | doughecka | hows that gonna work? |
| 23:34:18 | captain_proton | shrugs |
| 23:34:19 | jzaun | captain_proton: Thanks |
| 23:34:20 | captain_proton | ask mah roommate |
| 23:34:23 | doughecka | oh |
| 23:34:35 | Widget | Does he come to #bzflag? |
| 23:34:45 | doughecka | hihihihihihihihihihihihiihihihihihihihihih Widget! |
| 23:35:22 | Widget | hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi doughecka! |
| 23:35:38 | doughecka | tsk :) |
| 23:40:34 | captain_proton | he might |
| 23:42:02 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:42:10 | doughecka | you talking to him? |
| 23:43:20 | doughecka | hey! |
| 23:43:32 | patlabor221 | ho! |
| 23:43:37 | doughecka | The US flag is: |
| 23:43:37 | doughecka | Useless flag. Prints an incredibly witty remark on the screen to the effect of "You have found the useless flag. Use it wisely." |
| 23:43:42 | jzaun | Hye patlabor221 |
| 23:45:19 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 23:45:53 | doughecka | you at home? or work #2? |
| 23:46:51 | patlabor221 | home |
| 23:46:58 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:53:23 | mandy | hey |
| 23:53:27 | jzaun | hi |
| 23:53:52 | patlabor221 | needs a new laptop |
| 23:54:27 | mandy | lol |
| 23:54:53 | doughecka | why? |
| 23:54:57 | doughecka | get a powerbook |
| 23:55:48 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Livre de pouvoir. |
| 23:55:54 | | Widget: Deliver capacity. |
| 23:56:01 | Widget | Huh? |
| 23:56:09 | patlabor221 | why would I want a powerbook? |
| 23:56:12 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Un livre de pouvoir. |
| 23:56:13 | | Widget: A book of being able. |
| 23:56:17 | Widget | ibot: x fr en Une livre de pouvoir. |
| 23:56:17 | | Widget: A book of being able. |
| 23:56:19 | patlabor221 | I want a computer with software |
| 23:56:35 | Widget | Such as? |
| 23:57:24 | patlabor221 | a comadore 64 laptop that would be cool |
| 23:57:32 | doughecka | hmm, oook... |
| 23:57:57 | patlabor221 | or something with the word giga in it |
| 23:58:05 | patlabor221 | I would like to get an imac some day |
| 23:58:20 | Widget | patlabor221: What software does Mac OS X not have? |
| 23:58:27 | Widget | patlabor221: The new one or the old one? |
| 23:58:39 | doughecka | the new powerbook will have gigaherz |
| 23:58:46 | patlabor221 | it has something in all the fields |
| 23:58:51 | patlabor221 | but not many |
| 23:58:56 | patlabor221 | games mostly |
| 23:58:56 | doughecka | just you wait |
| 23:58:59 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:59:13 | patlabor221 | the new G4s barely have gias |
| 23:59:17 | patlabor221 | gigas |
| 23:59:24 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:59:25 | doughecka | well |
| 23:59:30 | patlabor221 | like 1.2 |
| 23:59:34 | patlabor221 | and 1.4 |
| 23:59:36 | doughecka | theres gonna be giga laptops coming out soon |
| 23:59:46 | patlabor221 | and it will cost like 3 grand |
| 23:59:58 | doughecka | yea |
