| 00:00:03 | patlabor221 | riiiiiiighhhhht |
| 00:00:12 | mandy | ohhh pat |
| 00:00:17 | mandy | guess what |
| 00:00:17 | doughecka | true |
| 00:00:21 | doughecka | he just quit... |
| 00:00:22 | doughecka | sorta |
| 00:00:38 | patlabor221 | like... "screw you poeple I'm outa here"? |
| 00:01:10 | doughecka | yup |
| 00:01:15 | doughecka | exatly |
| 00:01:47 | patlabor221 | so now you all is poor? |
| 00:01:52 | doughecka | ha |
| 00:02:29 | doughecka | to put it lightly, yea |
| 00:02:49 | doughecka | poor people with dsl.... |
| 00:03:29 | doughecka | poof |
| 00:04:03 | patlabor221 | must... get... all... invader zim... episodes.. |
| 00:04:13 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:04:13 | doughecka | right |
| 00:04:33 | patlabor221 | no realy |
| 00:04:33 | doughecka | oops |
| 00:04:36 | patlabor221 | geting them now |
| 00:04:40 | doughecka | hm? |
| 00:04:48 | doughecka | you got my email? |
| 00:05:05 | patlabor221 | thinks he should check his mail |
| 00:05:35 | doughecka | hmm, good point |
| 00:05:41 | doughecka | I check my email every 1 min. |
| 00:06:28 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:06:40 | patlabor221 | I get it right when it hits the server |
| 00:06:45 | patlabor221 | but I just got here |
| 00:06:49 | patlabor221 | so I didn't run it |
| 00:06:53 | patlabor221 | IMAP roxors |
| 00:07:05 | doughecka | hm? |
| 00:07:06 | doughecka | how does that work? |
| 00:07:21 | doughecka | I never used imap |
| 00:07:31 | patlabor221 | it logs in and keeps a constant connect to the server |
| 00:07:35 | patlabor221 | and tells you when you get stuff |
| 00:07:44 | patlabor221 | and the mail is held on the server |
| 00:07:45 | mandy | bleh |
| 00:07:48 | patlabor221 | none of the pop crap |
| 00:07:53 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:08:05 | doughecka | how come nobody uses it? |
| 00:08:13 | doughecka | ISP wise |
| 00:08:26 | patlabor221 | because the mail is kept on the server |
| 00:08:33 | patlabor221 | and that can get rather "LARGE" |
| 00:09:19 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:09:32 | doughecka | well, I never keep my mail on the server anyway... |
| 00:10:01 | patlabor221 | I allways do |
| 00:10:06 | doughecka | heh |
| 00:11:30 | patlabor221 | so I can get my messages anywhere in the world |
| 00:11:55 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:11:57 | mandy | coolios |
| 00:12:04 | doughecka | thats what webmail is for... |
| 00:12:05 | doughecka | aint it? |
| 00:12:07 | doughecka | :P |
| 00:16:20 | doughecka | well... |
| 00:16:23 | doughecka | did you? |
| 00:16:31 | captain_proton | Educational Film Number 114: EXORCISM AND YOUR DAILY LIFE |
| 00:16:40 | doughecka | yum |
| 00:20:29 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:20:35 | doughecka | mov2avi is rather neat |
| 00:24:01 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:25:38 | patlabor221 | with webmail and pop, then you only get what's in your inbox |
| 00:25:38 | doughecka | woo |
| 00:25:41 | patlabor221 | not stuff you filed |
| 00:25:45 | doughecka | oh |
| 00:25:47 | doughecka | well |
| 00:25:47 | patlabor221 | I have access to evertyhing |
| 00:25:53 | patlabor221 | including adress books |
| 00:25:57 | doughecka | I never look through all my old email |
| 00:25:58 | patlabor221 | and deleted stuff |
| 00:26:01 | doughecka | oh? |
| 00:26:03 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:26:06 | patlabor221 | yeah it's realy neat |
| 00:26:15 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:26:19 | doughecka | get my email? |
| 00:26:26 | patlabor221 | yes I did |
| 00:26:28 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:26:35 | captain_proton | you can't fool me, you're in one of those underground study cells aren't you? oh, it'll kill your father. i didn't breastfeed you for 14 years for -this- |
| 00:27:02 | doughecka | oh know, captain_proton is in on eof those moods |
| 00:27:06 | doughecka | :P |
| 00:27:17 | doughecka | woah |
| 00:27:34 | doughecka | never, ever, decode a quicktime movie to a uncompressed AVI |
| 00:27:45 | doughecka | makes a huge movie... |
| 00:28:10 | patlabor221 | well it's "uncompresed" |
| 00:28:16 | doughecka | hehe |
| 00:28:27 | patlabor221 | x * Y * FPS * time * 3 bytes |
| 00:28:31 | doughecka | ? |
| 00:28:35 | doughecka | oh |
| 00:28:39 | patlabor221 | that's how big it will be |
| 00:28:43 | doughecka | ok... |
| 00:28:46 | patlabor221 | + a header |
| 00:28:49 | patlabor221 | divx it |
| 00:28:54 | doughecka | yea |
| 00:28:59 | doughecka | thats what I am gonna do |
| 00:29:08 | doughecka | but I have to deocde the quicktime part first |
| 00:29:24 | doughecka | I cant do a quicktime2divx |
| 00:29:24 | patlabor221 | so |
| 00:29:25 | doughecka | yet |
| 00:29:35 | patlabor221 | AVIs can be Divx |
| 00:29:39 | doughecka | yea |
| 00:29:47 | patlabor221 | AVIs use any compresor |
| 00:29:57 | doughecka | but for someresason, the mov2avi program wont see the divx compressor |
| 00:30:07 | doughecka | only the plain stuff |
| 00:30:13 | patlabor221 | odd |
| 00:30:16 | doughecka | like indeo and things like that |
| 00:30:22 | doughecka | BMP |
| 00:30:23 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:30:26 | captain_proton | the last stronghold of unhip rebel resistance is out of sight, buried under nine million hardbound copies of the naked lunch. its all over, we're...coming home! |
| 00:30:50 | doughecka | captain_proton: ok, I cant guess what you are reading... |
| 00:30:55 | doughecka | I give up |
| 00:31:08 | doughecka | ;) |
| 00:31:15 | doughecka | tic |
| 00:31:17 | doughecka | 76% |
| 00:31:36 | doughecka | of I could of, um, used quicktime to save the movie as a AVI... |
| 00:31:46 | captain_proton | and when the job gets this dirty, new napalmolive |
| 00:31:57 | doughecka | ok.... |
| 00:33:10 | patlabor221 | doug use prememre to open it and export it as an AVI |
| 00:33:16 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:33:22 | doughecka | that takes a while... |
| 00:33:28 | captain_proton | help help help! THERE'S A LIVE SNAKE IN YOUR TROUSERS |
| 00:33:51 | patlabor221 | you allrady did that one |
| 00:33:52 | mandy | ? |
| 00:33:54 | doughecka | 3 little words sulley.... Six Wheel Drive! |
| 00:33:57 | captain_proton | its just such a good line :) |
| 00:34:04 | doughecka | ok... |
| 00:34:08 | mandy | weirdo |
| 00:34:55 | captain_proton | INVENTORY: HALF A GLASS OF CHAMPAGNE, GHETTO BLASTER, CHECKERED TROUSERS |
| 00:35:00 | patlabor221 | again |
| 00:35:07 | patlabor221 | there is a limit here |
| 00:35:18 | patlabor221 | did you go watch that halo 2 trailer yet? |
| 00:35:24 | captain_proton | no, i oughta |
| 00:35:27 | mandy | weirdo |
| 00:35:27 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:35:32 | patlabor221 | you should |
| 00:35:34 | doughecka | very pixalated |
| 00:36:13 | patlabor221 | http://halo.bungie.org/misc/halo2trailermirrors.html |
| 00:36:15 | captain_proton | you break the mirror with the champagne bottle, yell yahoo! and you go straight to the devil's bridalchamber |
| 00:36:16 | patlabor221 | multiple formats |
| 00:36:38 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:36:44 | doughecka | indio aint a very good format |
| 00:36:51 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 00:36:59 | doughecka | DV - PAL? |
| 00:37:04 | patlabor221 | no |
| 00:37:10 | patlabor221 | use MS |
| 00:37:13 | doughecka | BMP? |
| 00:37:14 | patlabor221 | or MPEG2 |
| 00:37:17 | doughecka | MS? |
| 00:37:25 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:37:26 | doughecka | not in there |
| 00:37:27 | captain_proton | there may be evil weather out there, so you need Jonny Vacation's ... weather with an edge |
| 00:37:34 | doughecka | it has only the basic stuff |
| 00:37:56 | doughecka | fires up premire |
| 00:38:04 | captain_proton | the kangaroo is loose, look out, man. |
| 00:39:02 | mandy | weirdo |
| 00:39:15 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:39:21 | doughecka | quicktime export works... |
| 00:39:56 | patlabor221 | cap watch the movie |
| 00:40:07 | doughecka | tsk, haveing lots of ram sure helps things along |
| 00:40:09 | patlabor221 | then you will want shaders in bz and jetstream |
| 00:40:12 | captain_proton | patlabor221: 38.1 kbps, 20:42 left |
| 00:40:21 | captain_proton | i already want shaders in jetstream |
| 00:40:21 | doughecka | eh |
| 00:40:22 | patlabor221 | haxor it to go faster |
| 00:40:33 | doughecka | what is halo about anyway |
| 00:40:34 | doughecka | ? |
| 00:40:45 | captain_proton | thats what billville's about! all kinds of life! |
| 00:40:56 | patlabor221 | halo about |
| 00:41:01 | doughecka | yup |
| 00:41:03 | patlabor221 | saving the world |
| 00:41:04 | doughecka | ducks |
| 00:41:07 | patlabor221 | and blowing stuff up |
| 00:41:07 | doughecka | oh? |
| 00:41:11 | captain_proton | and yes, the people. |
| 00:41:16 | doughecka | I thought thats what ALL these games where about |
| 00:41:19 | patlabor221 | from those covvy bastards |
| 00:41:19 | doughecka | quake 2... |
| 00:41:30 | patlabor221 | no that game was a bout the color brown |
| 00:41:41 | doughecka | oh |
| 00:42:06 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:42:11 | doughecka | it needs a codek for BMP? |
| 00:42:28 | patlabor221 | everything goes through the codec API |
| 00:42:34 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:42:38 | captain_proton | the people i know. the people you'll want to know. little people, thinking big. |
| 00:42:47 | doughecka | it contacts microsoft for a codec driver |
| 00:42:53 | patlabor221 | yup |
| 00:42:53 | doughecka | but it cant find one |
| 00:43:02 | patlabor221 | then you used the wrong one |
| 00:43:19 | doughecka | tsk, I am gonna do a uncompressed version then |
| 00:43:26 | captain_proton | TGI tuesday gospel karaoke! |
| 00:43:36 | doughecka | goes faster too |
| 00:43:53 | patlabor221 | it will |
| 00:44:02 | patlabor221 | but it shall be HUGE |
| 00:44:02 | mandy | bye everyone |
| 00:44:04 | doughecka | cya |
| 00:44:05 | doughecka | cu |
| 00:44:07 | doughecka | bye |
| 00:44:09 | doughecka | l8r |
| 00:44:12 | mandy | ? |
| 00:44:16 | patlabor221 | like the size of kentucky |
| 00:44:22 | doughecka | taataa |
| 00:44:23 | mandy | lol bye |
| 00:44:24 | doughecka | ttfn |
| 00:44:42 | doughecka | 239 meg file sounds right |
| 00:45:05 | patlabor221 | doug if you watch the halo trailers you will know what it's about |
| 00:45:14 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:45:14 | doughecka | k |
| 00:45:19 | doughecka | its a big download... |
| 00:45:20 | doughecka | ;) |
| 00:45:50 | patlabor221 | 32megs is not that big |
| 00:45:54 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:46:01 | doughecka | when you cant find a mirror, it is |
| 00:46:36 | doughecka | starts divxing the file |
| 00:47:06 | patlabor221 | what file? |
| 00:47:16 | doughecka | the avi that I made |
| 00:48:54 | patlabor221 | but what is it of? |
| 00:49:00 | doughecka | hehe |
| 00:49:05 | doughecka | movie previews |
| 00:49:10 | doughecka | from apple |
| 00:49:30 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 00:49:35 | doughecka | fun' |
| 00:49:43 | patlabor221 | you MUST be bored |
| 00:49:53 | doughecka | absolutly |
| 00:50:11 | patlabor221 | man someone asked me today "why do you use 2 monitors" |
| 00:50:21 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:50:35 | doughecka | ooh |
| 00:50:36 | doughecka | yuk |
| 00:50:56 | doughecka | rum the movie through a sharpen filter at 100% |
| 00:51:10 | doughecka | makes it look like its raining outside |
| 00:51:22 | patlabor221 | silly human |
| 00:53:36 | patlabor221 | will leeeenux play QT movies? |
| 00:53:36 | doughecka | silly robot |
| 00:53:39 | doughecka | yea |
| 00:53:49 | doughecka | it will, but dont ask me how |
| 00:53:51 | patlabor221 | rampant AI thank you very much |
| 00:53:56 | captain_proton | Mr. Kane: what will be so special about this newspaper? My newspaper will be so clean, you could press a duck in it! |
| 00:53:59 | patlabor221 | well how is the easy part |
| 00:53:59 | doughecka | bobot? |
| 00:54:01 | patlabor221 | a codec |
| 00:54:18 | doughecka | ha, really? |
| 00:54:19 | patlabor221 | cap, where do you get this stuff? |
| 00:55:25 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:55:31 | captain_proton | rsync://bhaskara.bzflag.org/media/non-music/Firesign_Theatre/ |
| 00:55:35 | doughecka | 239 megs file to 2 meg file |
| 00:55:49 | doughecka | divx is amzing |
| 00:56:00 | patlabor221 | frame coherence |
| 00:56:04 | patlabor221 | and wavelets |
| 00:56:06 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:03:48 | patlabor221 | ha |
| 01:03:58 | doughecka | ho |
| 01:04:03 | patlabor221 | thre is a track on the halo soundtrack called "rock anthem for saving the world" |
| 01:04:48 | patlabor221 | I hope they stick with there habit of naming there levels interesting things |
| 01:05:11 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:05:25 | doughecka | looks for a halo 2 trailer |
| 01:05:37 | patlabor221 | like: "But I don't want to go on the elevator" |
| 01:05:41 | patlabor221 | and "wait it gets worse" |
| 01:06:12 | patlabor221 | and one of the last ones where you have to take out a starship is |
| 01:06:23 | patlabor221 | ".... and the horse you rode in on" |
| 01:10:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:13:56 | patlabor221 | ahh yes and "Light Fuse, Run Away" |
| 01:16:31 | doughecka | haha |
| 01:17:40 | doughecka | dum de dum |
| 01:22:54 | patlabor221 | cap: that movie come down yet? |
| 01:24:10 | captain_proton | did but it was corrupted - downloading a different ver |
| 01:24:17 | patlabor221 | ohh that sucks |
| 01:24:42 | patlabor221 | pisses me off that the only "ofical versions" is in WM9 format |
| 01:41:50 | doughecka | is away: bedddd |
| 01:54:11 | patlabor221 | why can't they include quicktime win XP |
| 01:58:31 | patlabor221 | 2 of you? |
| 01:59:21 | patlabor221 | ahhh back to one |
| 01:59:35 | patlabor221 | thought they had leagalised cloning :) |
| 02:00:21 | patlabor221 | well time to go home |
| 02:00:34 | patlabor221 | cap let me know what you think of that movie |
| 02:07:33 | molybdenum | hello |
| 02:09:48 | molybdenum | hellllllooooooo? |
| 02:23:59 | captain_proton | patalbor221: pretty.... |
| 02:25:39 | patalbor221 | very |
| 02:25:49 | patalbor221 | and that's engine footage |
| 02:26:00 | captain_proton | drools a bit |
| 02:26:06 | patalbor221 | talk about lighting |
| 02:26:17 | captain_proton | its all machinima? |
| 02:26:25 | patalbor221 | ???? |
| 02:26:39 | captain_proton | machinima = anims using the engine |
| 02:26:53 | patalbor221 | I think that the person is mocap |
| 02:27:00 | patalbor221 | then just replayed |
| 02:27:05 | patalbor221 | everything else is engine |
| 02:27:38 | patalbor221 | not "game" persay but an engine cutsceene |
| 02:27:45 | captain_proton | yeah, machinima |
| 02:27:58 | patalbor221 | ok |
| 02:32:02 | patalbor221 | just never heard the term |
| 02:32:19 | captain_proton | damn, i thought i knew ya man... |
| 02:34:08 | patalbor221 | what's it from? |
| 02:34:40 | patalbor221 | remember I wasnt a CS major in college |
| 02:35:55 | captain_proton | from the game industry |
| 02:36:05 | captain_proton | more of an artist term i think though |
| 02:36:15 | captain_proton | lemme guess...sociology? |
| 02:36:49 | patalbor221 | graphic design |
| 02:36:58 | patalbor221 | then TV production |
| 02:37:29 | captain_proton | sounds like sociology to me ;) |
| 02:38:04 | patalbor221 | naw we made movies and blew stuff up |
| 03:13:23 | Nicole | hilo |
| 03:13:36 | patalbor221 | hi :) |
| 03:13:48 | Nicole | hehe |
| 03:13:59 | patalbor221 | .me jugles |
| 03:19:22 | captain_proton | hmm, strawberry fanta is bizzare |
| 03:23:12 | Widget | http://www.toriyamaworld.com/hikago/gallery/saibook/saibook-04.jpg |
| 03:23:13 | captain_proton | woo, another sign in the hallway! |
| 03:23:25 | captain_proton | TGI Tuesday gospel karaoke and morris dancing, sept 24 |
| 03:23:35 | captain_proton | scanline: ECEN 1B51 if you're interested ;) |
| 03:23:48 | scanline | yeep |
| 03:23:53 | scanline | gospel karaoke? |
| 03:23:58 | captain_proton | yes |
| 03:24:30 | scanline | almost as crazy as strawberry fanta :P |
| 03:24:34 | Widget | http://www.toriyamaworld.com/hikago/gallery/screencaps/hika-anime-09.jpg |
| 03:25:16 | captain_proton | ooh, there's a NZ morris dancing club |
| 03:25:32 | captain_proton | Widget can go learn then bring down the house when he comes back to the US |
| 03:28:35 | Widget | ??? |
| 03:29:28 | scanline | Go! |
| 03:29:45 | captain_proton | go find some photos online |
| 03:29:47 | captain_proton | it looks like a blast |
| 03:29:59 | captain_proton | but before TGI tuesday i gotta find the pants with the bells on them :) |
| 03:30:07 | Widget | When who comes back to the US? |
| 03:30:12 | captain_proton | Widget |
| 03:31:04 | scanline | send(US, Widget, sizeof(Widget), 0); |
| 03:31:32 | patalbor221 | LOL |
| 03:31:40 | patalbor221 | UDP or TCP? |
| 03:31:53 | scanline | Is that like economy vs 1st class? |
| 03:32:09 | patalbor221 | and make sure to get the CRC right |
| 03:32:13 | patalbor221 | or it's messy |
| 03:32:32 | scanline | decides to use UDP... 12% of the packets are dropped |
| 03:32:40 | scanline | doh! |
| 03:32:46 | patalbor221 | ohhh no toes widget |
| 03:32:51 | scanline | decides to use TCP... Widget arrives after 24.8 years |
| 03:33:08 | captain_proton | haha |
| 03:33:46 | patalbor221 | tunnel apple talk throught TCP/IP |
| 03:33:57 | patalbor221 | widget must has a resource fork |
| 03:34:09 | scanline | binhexes Widget |
| 03:34:15 | patalbor221 | good call |
| 03:34:23 | patalbor221 | that makes him bigger tho |
| 03:34:30 | scanline | emails Widget to captain_proton, via a few AOL mail servers |
| 03:34:38 | patalbor221 | better stuff Widget too |
| 03:34:42 | Widget | Now you're just being evil. |
| 03:34:45 | scanline | >:) |
| 03:34:55 | Widget | Whom? |
| 03:35:05 | scanline | oh no, you've been base64 encoded and rot13'ed at the same time! |
| 03:35:30 | Widget | I wanna patent rot26 encryption. |
| 03:35:44 | scanline | already done |
| 03:35:49 | Widget | Pfft. |
| 03:35:59 | scanline | Windows 95 used rot26 encryption for all their passwords, I'm sure MS encrypted that |
| 03:36:14 | captain_proton | encrypted AND patented! |
| 03:36:21 | scanline | err.. |
| 03:36:27 | scanline | s/encrypted that/patented that/ |
| 03:36:53 | scanline | o/~ Don't bring in the clowns o/~ |
| 03:36:57 | Widget | How about rot30 with cyrillic? |
| 03:37:04 | captain_proton | hmm, my roommate is dialectizing our revisionist musick theery exam |
| 03:37:21 | patalbor221 | is learning a new fireball spell |
| 03:37:25 | scanline | captain_proton: an exam already? |
| 03:37:38 | captain_proton | http://lurgyman.babylonia.flatirons.org/cgi-bin/musick.cgi\ |
| 03:37:41 | captain_proton | no \ |
| 03:37:46 | scanline | casts Magic Missle on patalbor221. scanline gains 6.2 XP |
| 03:38:01 | scanline | ah |
| 03:38:03 | patalbor221 | has sheild up |
| 03:38:10 | scanline | takes the exam |
| 03:38:38 | scanline | HAHAHA |
| 03:38:54 | Widget | Pfft. |
| 03:38:55 | captain_proton | grins |
| 03:38:56 | patalbor221 | I don't know how it came up today, but the question was asked "how do wizards bury there dead?" |
| 03:39:02 | scanline | I answered "i am a fish" for every question |
| 03:39:08 | scanline | and got two right! |
| 03:39:09 | Widget | your roommate has a weeeeeeir dsense of humour. |
| 03:39:10 | patalbor221 | and the answer was "one word man, FIREBALL" |
| 03:39:27 | captain_proton | Widget: this is a team effort |
| 03:40:02 | captain_proton | fear the music majors :) |
| 03:40:16 | patalbor221 | band geeks |
| 03:41:42 | Widget | jzaun's webpage is broken. |
| 03:41:56 | Widget | Actually it isn't. |
| 03:44:55 | patalbor221 | mmmm phat lewt. |
| 03:59:07 | captain_proton | yaay, another activity for TGI Tuesday |
| 03:59:14 | captain_proton | the haggis cookoff |
| 03:59:35 | scanline | eek |
| 03:59:57 | scanline | what does TGI stand for? |
| 04:00:16 | captain_proton | 'thank goodness its' - usually put toegether with 'friday' |
| 04:00:21 | scanline | ah, ok |
| 04:04:06 | captain_proton | a power so great it can only be used for good or evil! |
| 04:04:31 | patalbor221 | haggis? you mean sheeps stomach filled with meat and herbs? |
| 04:04:39 | captain_proton | yes |
| 04:04:56 | patalbor221 | never heard of it |
| 04:04:56 | scanline | so who gets to be the sheep? |
| 04:06:46 | captain_proton | be there or do something else! |
| 04:07:11 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:07:50 | captain_proton | hmm, must remember to his the girls' floor with signs for tgi tuesday |
| 04:08:06 | captain_proton | what would a party consisting of morris dancing, gospel karaoke and a haggis cookoff be without girls? |
| 04:09:13 | scanline | awkward? |
| 04:09:21 | captain_proton | don't forget your coloring book! |
| 04:09:27 | scanline | haha |
| 04:11:10 | captain_proton | ooooh |
| 04:11:18 | captain_proton | dan just thought up another game |
| 04:11:21 | captain_proton | a long division contest! |
| 04:12:27 | scanline | submarine paddling contest? |
| 04:13:03 | captain_proton | or even better |
| 04:13:09 | captain_proton | a submarine -peddling- contest! |
| 04:13:13 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:13:29 | scanline | don't forget your life masks, kids! |
| 04:15:48 | scanline | yay.. textbox is now handling multiple paragraphs.. just not correctly |
| 04:16:12 | captain_proton | yaay, a telephone pole slideshow |
| 04:16:18 | scanline | haha |
| 04:16:29 | scanline | bathtub juggling? |
| 04:16:50 | captain_proton | yesyes! |
| 04:16:54 | captain_proton | but that goes on the next poster |
| 04:17:00 | scanline | :) |
| 04:18:32 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 04:18:37 | captain_proton | every poster lists a different room |
| 04:19:19 | scanline | :D |
| 04:20:24 | scanline | http://www.travelsd.com/events/images/highland3.gif |
| 04:22:39 | captain_proton | almost time to go hang up a bunch of these :) |
| 04:22:54 | captain_proton | must put one on scanline's door... |
| 04:23:03 | captain_proton | i'll give ya a choice which ;) |
| 04:23:17 | scanline | how many do you have so far? |
| 04:23:43 | captain_proton | one already up in the stairwell, about to hang up 5 more |
| 04:29:04 | scanline | admires the sign captain_proton just put on his door |
| 04:31:42 | captain_proton | yay |
| 04:31:57 | captain_proton | 3 on the girls' floor, 1 in the south stairwell and one on scanline's and my door |
| 04:32:28 | scanline | yay, we'll hae lots of girls there for the long division contest |
| 04:32:39 | captain_proton | yesyes |
| 04:32:59 | csm | hullo? |
| 04:33:09 | csm | any admins here? |
| 04:33:24 | scanline | is an admin.. but not for this channel |
| 04:33:28 | captain_proton | admins of what? |
| 04:33:36 | csm | bzflag boxen |
| 04:33:56 | captain_proton | each server is different |
| 04:34:34 | csm | let me rephrase... lazarus was just telling me on my server that somebody is trying to get the prominent admins together to discuss some things about the upcoming release |
| 04:34:58 | captain_proton | BYOB on the morris dancing - bring your own bells :) |
| 04:35:09 | captain_proton | csm: hmm, not really for the next release |
| 04:35:16 | captain_proton | i think it was more to create a group of bzflag 'police' |
| 04:35:25 | csm | hmmm... |
| 04:35:29 | csm | okay... |
| 04:35:37 | csm | well I guess he didn't have the story right |
| 04:35:47 | scanline | you could call the bzflag police bzop's :) |
| 04:35:55 | csm | he-he! |
| 04:36:09 | captain_proton | beeeee....zop |
| 04:36:12 | scanline | yep |
| 04:36:32 | captain_proton | if you see him saying that stuff again tell him to email me 'bout it |
| 04:36:35 | csm | well I was just trying to get some details... I own turkey.moongroup.com |
| 04:36:44 | captain_proton | scanline: whats the mech-e wing called? |
| 04:36:54 | scanline | csm: hehe.. the server where I get GM'ed every 10 seconds :) |
| 04:37:07 | csm | could be so this week... |
| 04:37:12 | scanline | captain_proton: ah.. I dunno |
| 04:37:14 | csm | last week it was lasers |
| 04:37:22 | captain_proton | csm: ahh, you need to convert your worlds to degrees :P |
| 04:37:51 | csm | you would not believe how I created that world... converting it to degress is beyond me! |
| 04:38:35 | captain_proton | find a copy of jeffm's windows bzedit - open the world, select 'utility', click 'convert to degrees' |
| 04:38:47 | csm | anyway you guys would know me by a different handle in the game |
| 04:38:55 | captain_proton | but the 'base world' that you started with was unconverted, so none of the walkways are right |
| 04:38:57 | csm | bzedit? |
| 04:39:42 | captain_proton | scanline: ooh, yet another activity |
| 04:39:47 | captain_proton | the refridgerator repair seminar |
| 04:40:13 | scanline | microwave shielding effectiveness test demonstration? |
| 04:40:22 | captain_proton | haha |
| 04:40:38 | captain_proton | the room would be filled with warm, caring people :) |
| 04:40:44 | scanline | =) |
| 04:43:04 | captain_proton | complimentary shower heads too |
| 04:43:08 | csm | so what is bzedit? |
| 04:43:17 | captain_proton | csm: a 'visual' bzflag editor |
| 04:43:28 | csm | what's it run on...? |
| 04:43:45 | captain_proton | there are 2 versions |
| 04:43:53 | captain_proton | jeffm's (out there on the web somewhere) is windows |
| 04:43:56 | captain_proton | mine is linux/gnome |
| 04:44:05 | csm | where is yours? |
| 04:44:28 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/tarballs/bzedit-2.0.tar.gz |
| 04:44:35 | captain_proton | though at some point there will be a new release with support for gnome2 |
| 04:45:02 | patalbor221 | www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit |
| 04:45:14 | csm | which version of gnome? 1.4 or 2? |
| 04:45:20 | captain_proton | that one is 1.4 |
| 04:45:31 | captain_proton | bzedit 2.1 will be gnome2 |
| 04:45:36 | csm | alright... I have both sets of libs installed! |
| 04:46:28 | captain_proton | scanline: any other ideas you have would be helpful - we're running out of quirky things |
| 04:46:54 | scanline | mercury chugging contest? |
| 04:47:03 | scanline | hovercraft race? |
| 04:47:11 | captain_proton | we've already got the llama race |
| 04:47:16 | scanline | rubber ducky pit? |
| 04:47:16 | patalbor221 | kung fuu fighting |
| 04:47:39 | scanline | capture the polymer? |
| 04:47:41 | captain_proton | yesyes! the pit! |
| 04:48:14 | captain_proton | special door prize: spinach flavored lollypops |
| 04:48:51 | scanline | textbook signing? |
| 04:49:14 | captain_proton | we're gonna go hit the ground floor to recharge our creative juices |
| 04:49:53 | csm | you have a web page for that software or just the download point? |
| 04:51:07 | csm | nm |
| 04:52:46 | csm | am building it now! |
| 04:53:33 | csm | well it fails to build |
| 04:53:38 | captain_proton | damnit! |
| 04:53:44 | captain_proton | we have to take them down (except on doors) |
| 04:53:47 | captain_proton | we need volunteers! |
| 04:53:48 | csm | using gcc 3.2 here |
| 04:54:08 | patalbor221 | busted by the fuzzz? |
| 04:54:09 | captain_proton | oh, remove the initialization in function names from the .cpp files |
| 04:54:12 | scanline | captain_proton: I volunteer everyone within a 6-door radius of me |
| 04:54:27 | patalbor221 | I'll help |
| 04:54:40 | patalbor221 | mentaly tears them down |
| 04:54:51 | scanline | shoots mind-bullets at patalbor221 |
| 04:54:58 | csm | captain_proton i manipulate code okay but do not write it very well at all... |
| 04:55:33 | csm | i wouldn't know where to start with that... sorry |
| 04:57:14 | captain_proton | ok, on each line it complains about: |
| 04:57:20 | captain_proton | there's a function saying x(blah = foo) |
| 04:57:23 | captain_proton | remove the = foo |
| 04:58:44 | scanline | captain_proton: trying to use default parameters in C? :) |
| 04:59:05 | captain_proton | scanline: no, its just that gcc 3.2 complains when it has the default parameter in -both- the .h and .cpp |
| 04:59:13 | scanline | ah |
| 04:59:25 | captain_proton | we're now running the "be there or do something else" poster on our door <grin> |
| 05:00:34 | patalbor221 | wow cap that is lasy |
| 05:00:42 | patalbor221 | vc don't like that ether |
| 05:01:08 | captain_proton | scanline: you're perfectly welcome to come and put up posters on everyone's door within the 6-radius |
| 05:01:39 | scanline | maybe soon |
| 05:01:40 | captain_proton | dd^w^wp :) |
| 05:03:32 | scanline | hehe.. my roommate just walked in, and laughed at the sign |
| 05:06:26 | captain_proton | its not just a bump, its a bump with a name! billville! its not just an empty bumb either, its a mount brimming with life! |
| 05:07:30 | captain_proton | not just stupid people, but doctors, delivering octuplets to puzzled number crunchers |
| 05:12:05 | patalbor221 | there are 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don't |
| 05:33:38 | scanline | captain_proton: want to see what might be the ugliest code I've ever written? |
| 05:33:43 | scanline | https://navi.picogui.org/public/projects/obfuscated.c |
| 05:34:12 | csm | anyone know what this may be about? |
| 05:34:18 | csm | tga.cpp:1:17: stl.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:34:19 | csm | ! Problem Detected ! |
| 05:34:19 | csm | make[2]: *** [tga.o] Error 1 |
| 05:34:19 | csm | make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/bzedit-2.0' |
| 05:34:19 | csm | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 05:34:19 | csm | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/bzedit-2.0' |
| 05:34:21 | csm | make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 |
| 05:44:28 | iLLf8d | night all |
| 05:49:29 | captain_proton | scanline: ooh, beautiful |
| 05:49:36 | scanline | :) |
| 05:49:37 | captain_proton | scanline: change to '#include <stl>' |
| 05:49:42 | scanline | bah! |
| 05:49:47 | captain_proton | err |
| 05:49:52 | captain_proton | that was meant for csm |
| 05:49:53 | scanline | it's C, not C++.... there's no such thing as obfuscated C++ :P |
| 05:50:00 | scanline | oh, alrighty |
| 05:50:37 | captain_proton | makes a frozen pizza |
| 05:50:57 | csm | change what to '#include <stl>' ?? |
| 05:51:14 | captain_proton | tga.cpp:1 |
| 05:51:17 | captain_proton | it has #include <stl.h> |
| 05:51:22 | captain_proton | remove the .h |
| 05:51:27 | captain_proton | err |
| 05:51:31 | captain_proton | just delete the line altogether |
| 05:51:50 | csm | okay |
| 05:52:08 | scanline | What does it mean in C++ when you load a header without the .h extension? Is it just a file without the extension, or is there a special meaning? |
| 05:53:15 | captain_proton | the standard was redefined so that the standard headers (string, vector, etc) don't have an extension |
| 05:53:44 | scanline | k |
| 05:54:02 | scanline | seems kind of silly... |
| 05:54:10 | captain_proton | not really |
| 05:54:26 | captain_proton | string is different than string.h |
| 05:54:28 | captain_proton | etc |
| 05:55:06 | scanline | That just causes confusion between the c++ headers and the C headers... IMHO it would have been better to call it string++.h or string.h++ or something |
| 05:55:18 | captain_proton | eww at string.h++ |
| 05:55:25 | scanline | haha |
| 05:55:36 | captain_proton | and string++.h may or may not be a valid filename on some systems |
| 05:55:57 | scanline | true.. but I eww string and string.h :P |
| 05:56:10 | scanline | how about ccstring.h? |
| 05:56:17 | scanline | or string_class.h :P |
| 05:57:19 | captain_proton | well they've added wrappers for string.h, etc as #include <cstring> and friends |
| 05:57:41 | captain_proton | it also looks pretty when you have #include<map> or something |
| 05:58:01 | scanline | like templates syntax :) |
| 05:58:12 | captain_proton | yesyes |
| 05:58:31 | captain_proton | you can write compile-time programs using templates |
| 05:59:02 | scanline | A lot of people use templates without realizing how much extra code it generates for each type you feed into a template... |
| 05:59:17 | captain_proton | it generates...about the same amount of the code as the class itself |
| 05:59:25 | scanline | yes |
| 05:59:26 | captain_proton | but templates allow such nice programs |
| 05:59:36 | scanline | they could have implemented it better IMHO... |
| 05:59:59 | captain_proton | but how? |
| 06:00:25 | captain_proton | put a boat in it marshall! you're not paid the money enough to wear that star! |
| 06:01:09 | scanline | For container classes, the new operator could give the class enough extra space to store a copy of the type it's containing, and it would tell the class the size and such, so it would know how to manipulate it. You'd have to design a clean syntax for that of course |
| 06:01:29 | scanline | but that way you'd only need one piece of code, and the speed difference would be very small |
| 06:01:41 | scanline | I'm just rambling... |
| 06:01:55 | scanline | kicks himself... "back to work!" |
| 06:02:41 | captain_proton | hmm, whatcha working on? |
| 06:02:49 | scanline | picogui textbox widget |
| 06:03:15 | captain_proton | ahh right |
| 06:03:37 | csm | it builds now... took 12 patches! |
| 06:04:17 | captain_proton | csm: i suggest you wait a few days/week or so to add bzedit to that dist, since 2.1 will be coming out |
| 06:05:52 | csm | well it only takes a few minutes to change it... it's source based |
| 06:06:15 | captain_proton | ah |
| 06:06:26 | csm | how do I view a map with this thing? |
| 06:06:54 | captain_proton | its possible that its autosizing the 'main window' to be too small to see |
| 06:06:59 | captain_proton | resize the 'BZFlag editor' window |
| 06:07:16 | csm | ah there we go... duh-uh! |
| 06:07:19 | csm | :-) |
| 06:07:39 | csm | will you be doing 2.1 in gcc 3.2 or will it have the same problems? |
| 06:07:44 | captain_proton | i'm finished with politics, because i don't have the votes. i can't go into wrestling, because i don't have a mask |
| 06:07:52 | captain_proton | 2.1 is gcc 3.x compliant |
| 06:07:59 | csm | excellent! |
| 06:08:18 | csm | so a simple convert to degrees is needed with this map? |
| 06:08:25 | captain_proton | should be |
| 06:08:49 | csm | well thank you for your help... |
| 06:09:00 | csm | it looks like a nice package |
| 06:09:18 | csm | and if you see kernel panic anywhere don;t kill him... it could be me! :-) |
| 06:11:09 | csm | okay... it's in our cvs... it will be available to the users in about 44 minutes! :-) |
| 06:11:24 | csm | good night captain_proton... and thanx again! |
| 06:20:19 | scanline | sp1ffy... it can lay out multiple paragraphs and widgets |
| 06:22:42 | scanline | https://navi.picogui.org/public/media/images/screenshots/textbox_layout.png |
| 06:22:46 | scanline | https://navi.picogui.org/public/media/images/screenshots/textbox_layout_debugoverlay.png |
| 06:53:14 | captain_proton | hmm, thexy |
| 07:00:18 | captain_proton | the pushpins on our board now spell out llama :) |
| 07:03:53 | scanline | hah.. you must be bored :) |
| 07:13:10 | captain_proton | that could be a valid observation |
| 07:13:52 | captain_proton | what does exorcism have to do with me? and ringball? and bruce? |
| 07:16:00 | captain_proton | well thats very interesting mr brown but i already know about the pancreas |
| 07:18:43 | captain_proton | gee mr. mayor, i see how exorcism fits in to oil refining, but i still don't have enough for my dumb civics paper. how does exorcism fit into our daily life? |
| 07:18:53 | captain_proton | what billy means is, how does exorcism fit into our daily life? |
| 07:19:50 | scanline | doing madlibs? :P |
| 07:20:15 | captain_proton | nono, more firesign :) |
| 07:20:19 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:20:42 | scanline | I've listened to some firesign with Chris... I snagged your firesign directory, I'll listen to it soon |
| 07:21:02 | captain_proton | listen to 'the pink hotel burns down' |
| 07:21:10 | scanline | k |
| 07:21:16 | captain_proton | ooh ooh! |
| 07:21:20 | captain_proton | and beat the reaper |
| 07:21:36 | captain_proton | come over here in the light so we can check your body paint |
| 07:22:37 | captain_proton | fenway, your kid's a drop-in |
| 07:24:03 | scanline | haha... zorkish |
| 07:25:01 | captain_proton | YOU HAVE A LIVE SNAKE IN YOUR TROUSERS :) |
| 07:25:31 | scanline | bah.. distracted by bored girls... |
| 07:27:16 | captain_proton | distracted by girls...poor baby |
| 07:27:56 | scanline | haha |
| 07:38:59 | captain_proton | ponders what else scanline needs to listen to |
| 07:39:56 | captain_proton | boom_dot_bust / track 16 |
| 07:40:03 | scanline | k |
| 07:40:57 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:42:12 | scanline | yay-hoo... in ohio :) |
| 07:42:36 | captain_proton | track 14 is also pretty good |
| 07:44:26 | scanline | haha.. drive home on a bust |
| 07:46:08 | captain_proton | put our strong hand in your pocket! |
| 07:46:15 | scanline | :) |
| 07:49:04 | captain_proton | my roommate's father has about 10 firesign cd's and a bunch of records to rip :) |
| 07:49:12 | scanline | spiffy |
| 07:50:24 | captain_proton | so i challenged him to a game of 10-card tarot... |
| 07:52:13 | captain_proton | rsync://me/media/non-music/Goon_Show/ ;) |
| 07:54:58 | scanline | da, am to be fixink divtree bugski |
| 07:55:27 | scanline | there's some condition that makes it forget to redraw things when you scroll... trying to track that bug down |
| 07:58:53 | captain_proton | oof, ah needs a bigger hard drive |
| 07:59:30 | scanline | Borrow a few buckets of 120GB drives from the engineering center... |
| 08:07:45 | captain_proton | Q: Why can't Microsoft remove their browser from their products, instead of just hiding it somewhere in Windows? |
| 08:07:52 | captain_proton | A: Some things simply cannot be known. We do know that Microsoft has plans to hide it better. They've just signed a deal with Disney to create 'Where's Explorer?', a more sophisticated version of 'Where's Waldo?', in which the annoying animated paper clip will give you misleading information as to Explorer's whereabouts somewhere on your hard drive. In a related development, Microsoft will incorporate the entire US Department of |
| 08:07:52 | captain_proton | ndows 2000. They're just sit there twiddling their thumbs until double-clicked. Of course, the embedded DOJ will be much easier to delete than Internet Explorer. |
| 08:16:53 | metal_magic | anyone wanna play on minerva now? |
| 08:19:05 | scanline | thinks his new motherboard will be here Monday |
| 08:19:39 | scanline | Then I get to compile a SMP kernel and try to get NVidia cooperating with it.. |
| 08:21:36 | metal_magic | apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.19-686-smp :-) |
| 08:21:50 | scanline | bah, I always compile my own kernel... |
| 08:22:06 | metal_magic | some good reason? |
| 08:22:11 | scanline | not like it takes more than 5 minutes or so on this machine :) |
| 08:22:18 | scanline | metal_magic: then I get the options and drivers that I want |
| 08:23:01 | metal_magic | i compile my own kernel only in specific situations |
| 08:23:33 | metal_magic | for example last time, when i needed 4GiB RAM support :-) |
| 08:23:38 | scanline | It's hard to find stock kernels that are optimized for your CPU, your BIOS, and have exactly the drivers you need... |
| 08:24:01 | scanline | and besides, I'm a wannabe kernel hacker :) |
| 08:24:14 | metal_magic | how do you optimize your kernel for your BIOS? |
| 08:24:14 | scanline | I just haven't had the time/motivation to actually wade my way into the code yet |
| 08:24:34 | scanline | metal_magic: things like APM/ACPI settings.. there's at least a page of those |
| 08:25:09 | metal_magic | i usually don't care about such a things :-) |
| 08:25:21 | metal_magic | i use kernel compiled for my CPU |
| 08:25:29 | scanline | but what do you do about getting the modules you want? |
| 08:25:50 | metal_magic | there are almost all possible modules there |
| 08:26:25 | scanline | There's hardly ever all the modules I need... |
| 08:26:40 | metal_magic | for example ... |
| 08:26:42 | scanline | and without the kernel source tree, you can't compile extra modules individually |
| 08:26:49 | scanline | for example VMware and NVidia drivers |
| 08:27:00 | scanline | and some video4linux stuff |
| 08:27:34 | metal_magic | yes that is true, for NVidia drivers i need kernel source, but i do not compile the kernel |
| 08:27:47 | metal_magic | with the kernel-image is config distributed too |
| 08:28:10 | metal_magic | so i use it and run only make menuconfig and make dep |
| 08:28:27 | scanline | If you do all that, why not compile the kernel too? |
| 08:28:49 | metal_magic | because the result would be the same kernel i am running |
| 08:29:22 | scanline | so boring not to customize it though... |
| 08:29:43 | metal_magic | i have bt878 card here and i didn't need to compile my kernel due to video4linux |
| 08:29:44 | scanline | stuff like the preemption patch |
| 08:30:04 | metal_magic | preemption patch is shit IMHO |
| 08:30:22 | scanline | metal_magic: bt878 is popular, I was using an obscure webcam driver |
| 08:30:43 | scanline | This is stupid to argue about compiling kernels vs using stock kernels... |
| 08:30:57 | metal_magic | webcam.o? |
| 08:31:08 | scanline | metal_magic: no |
| 08:31:15 | scanline | the module name was ibmcam.o |
| 08:31:16 | metal_magic | which one |
| 08:31:52 | scanline | there are other things you need source for too.. a lot of drivers have options you can only edit in the source |
| 08:32:00 | metal_magic | xkolaja@triton(pts/5):~$ ls /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/usb/ibmcam.o |
| 08:32:00 | metal_magic | /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/usb/ibmcam.o |
| 08:32:00 | metal_magic | xkolaja@triton(pts/5):~$ |
| 08:32:03 | metal_magic | :-) |
| 08:32:14 | scanline | for example, I was having problems with the DMA on my RAID hard disks, had to edit the source to fix the problem |
| 08:32:41 | scanline | so I really don't care if the stock kernels are good enough for you, I usually end up with some reason to need a custom kernel |
| 08:33:00 | metal_magic | yes, that is true, but it is only sometimes |
| 08:33:11 | scanline | more like most of the time, for me :P |
| 08:34:18 | metal_magic | i will say it to you this way: |
| 08:34:48 | scanline | heh.. in the time you and I have been discussing this I could have compiled like 4 kernels |
| 08:35:04 | metal_magic | i have tens of computers, if i would make custom kernel for every one, i would go insane :-) |
| 08:35:06 | metal_magic | :-) |
| 08:35:25 | metal_magic | 4 kernels with configuring? |
| 08:35:34 | metal_magic | don't think so |
| 08:35:41 | scanline | I have a lot of computers too (though didn't bring but 4 to school with me) though I don't keep them all up to date :) |
| 08:35:50 | scanline | metal_magic: It's called hyperbole... |
| 08:37:07 | metal_magic | it is not acceptable here, each machine has to have the same software, the same version |
| 08:37:15 | metal_magic | there are exceptions of course |
| 08:42:17 | captain_proton | same software + same version = nfs :) |
| 08:42:28 | metal_magic | we tried it too |
| 08:42:42 | metal_magic | /usr on nfs |
| 08:43:12 | metal_magic | but there was a proble with configuration files |
| 08:43:22 | metal_magic | s/proble/problem/ |
| 08:43:43 | scanline | captain_proton: is it tomorrow yet? |
| 08:44:24 | captain_proton | scanline: tomorrow is...tomorrow :) |
| 08:44:30 | scanline | captain_proton: clever topic then |
| 08:44:44 | captain_proton | it wasn't originally intended to be |
| 08:44:46 | captain_proton | but oh well |
| 08:44:50 | scanline | :) |
| 08:54:13 | captain_proton | waits patiently for the gstreamer people to commit the fix to the bug thats plaguing him |
| 09:01:44 | scanline | it's a new day.. so we need a new word :) |
| 09:02:18 | scanline | I invented that word... just like Al Gore invented the interweb! |
| 09:05:04 | metal_magic | interweb? what the hell is it? |
| 09:05:21 | scanline | injects metal_magic with some Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie |
| 09:05:48 | metal_magic | grr!!! |
| 09:05:58 | scanline | listen to "Keep your parents off the internet" |
| 09:09:10 | captain_proton | sleepytime |
| 09:09:57 | metal_magic | hmm |
| 09:10:32 | metal_magic | do you think this: http://studyguides.cramsession.com/video/NetParent/default.asp?Video=Open? |
| 09:12:49 | scanline | it's at mp3.com |
| 09:13:29 | scanline | if this is supposed to be a video, it isn't for me :) |
| 09:13:39 | scanline | prolly wants Real/Javascript/ActiveCruft... |
| 09:14:15 | scanline | oh.. it's shockwave flash |
| 09:14:54 | metal_magic | yes |
| 09:15:20 | metal_magic | hehe Cookies are not enabled :-) |
| 09:15:32 | metal_magic | In order to use MP3.com, your browser must be set to enable cookies :-) |
| 09:22:44 | metal_magic | someone who wanna play on minerva now? |
| 09:24:41 | metal_magic | beeeeeeeeeh, i wanna play ...... |
| 09:25:00 | metal_magic | ..... and no one wants to play with meeeeeeee , beeeeeeeeh |
| 11:16:17 | bomber | hallo Pinguin |
| 11:16:24 | Pinguin | He bomber ... hallo |
| 11:16:36 | Pinguin | Dann sind wir ja spielfähig ... |
| 11:17:00 | bomber | klaro |
| 11:17:11 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:17:11 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 11:20:42 | metal_magic | ducati is still dead |
| 11:20:55 | [TeA] | metal |
| 11:21:00 | metal_magic | hi |
| 11:21:03 | [TeA] | ducati is closed over hole weekend |
| 11:21:11 | metal_magic | i know it |
| 11:21:20 | metal_magic | why do think i have started minerva :-) |
| 11:21:56 | metal_magic | bomber, Pinguin, [TeA], come have a play on minerva |
| 11:22:06 | [TeA] | i was there |
| 11:22:11 | [TeA] | nobody is there |
| 11:22:16 | metal_magic | i thought it |
| 11:22:23 | metal_magic | so come on |
| 11:22:55 | [TeA] | im there |
| 11:23:20 | [TeA] | metal ?? |
| 11:23:25 | [TeA] | whats the server name |
| 11:23:28 | [TeA] | ......................cz |
| 11:25:06 | bomber | Pinguin: minerva.cz |
| 11:25:17 | metal_magic | minerva.fi.muni.cz :-) |
| 11:25:29 | Pinguin | Hm ... mal gucken? |
| 11:25:51 | metal_magic | ibot: x de en mal gucken |
| 11:25:53 | | metal_magic: times look |
| 11:26:09 | metal_magic | eh? |
| 11:26:12 | Pinguin | no no ... something like "check out" |
| 11:26:22 | metal_magic | ah :-) |
| 11:26:23 | Pinguin | or "to try" |
| 11:26:29 | metal_magic | so come on |
| 11:26:31 | Pinguin | OK |
| 12:05:44 | metal_magic | tea? |
| 12:06:11 | [TeA] | yeah |
| 12:06:24 | metal_magic | well, tell me, what did he do? |
| 12:06:33 | metal_magic | he was laggy? |
| 12:06:37 | metal_magic | or what? |
| 12:06:39 | [TeA] | well if i say that he has a lag |
| 12:07:01 | [TeA] | nnand he comes with his childisch remarks like girlie shall i give yyou a tischue ..... |
| 12:07:09 | [TeA] | ill get very agry |
| 12:07:14 | [TeA] | angry |
| 12:07:26 | metal_magic | well, i'll tell you one thing |
| 12:07:36 | metal_magic | i know he was a bit laggy |
| 12:07:46 | [TeA] | ... |
| 12:08:04 | metal_magic | but i cannot saw it wall, cause i didn't fight against him |
| 12:08:11 | metal_magic | but ... |
| 12:08:37 | metal_magic | the rule is everyone more than 300ms lag kick, others can play |
| 12:08:42 | metal_magic | you have to respect the rules |
| 12:08:56 | metal_magic | if you don't like it, it's your problem |
| 12:09:12 | metal_magic | understand, what i wanted to say? |
| 12:09:34 | [TeA] | yes |
| 12:09:49 | [TeA] | 20 & of the hole thing that i was only agry about his lag |
| 12:10:04 | [TeA] | 80 % what he said to me personal |
| 12:10:13 | [TeA] | that you couldnt see |
| 12:10:20 | [TeA] | because of , and . |
| 12:10:28 | [TeA] | in bz |
| 12:10:30 | metal_magic | i understand |
| 12:10:37 | [TeA] | ok |
| 12:10:44 | [TeA] | well just forget it all |
| 12:10:47 | metal_magic | ok, let it be |
| 12:14:45 | metal_magic | have to go for now |
| 12:16:43 | [TeA] | bye |
| 12:24:45 | scanline | is away: spam, spam, spam, eggs, baked beans, and spam |
| 12:35:33 | doughecka | is away: spam, eggs, sausage, spam, and spam. |
| 12:39:44 | scanline | is back (gone 00:14:59) |
| 12:42:05 | doughecka | is away: What is the airspeed of an unladen sparrow? |
| 12:42:17 | scanline | ha :p |
| 12:42:39 | doughecka | ;P |
| 12:45:13 | doughecka | thought to himself "a little fermented curd will do the trick," so, he curtailed my Walpoling activites, sallied forth, and infiltrated your place of purveyance to negotiate the vending of some cheesy comestibles! |
| 12:46:14 | doughecka | is away: It's certainly uncontaminated by cheese.... |
| 12:46:16 | metal_magic | is back |
| 12:48:17 | mandy | =\ |
| 13:11:03 | metal_magic | is going to kill the server on minerva |
| 13:11:29 | metal_magic | killed |
| 13:13:56 | metal_magic | i am going home, cu ... |
| 13:22:22 | mandy | bleh |
| 13:35:55 | [TeA] | hohoho |
| 13:36:11 | strayer | hi |
| 13:36:21 | [TeA] | hohoho M.AC |
| 13:43:52 | strayer | TEA |
| 13:46:22 | [TeA] | jaaa |
| 13:48:29 | MrApathyCream | nh |
| 13:51:06 | | strayer: i'm not following you... |
| 13:51:06 | strayer | ibot: kick [TeA] |
| 13:52:07 | strayer | hmpf......ibot is not creative |
| 13:58:19 | strayer | slaps [TeA] around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:13:33 | scanline | is away: Zzz |
| 14:15:13 | [TeA] | hey |
| 14:15:20 | [TeA] | strayer: whats up :P |
| 14:15:36 | | very very sexyyy |
| 14:15:36 | mandy | ibot strayer? |
| 14:15:40 | mandy | lol |
| 14:15:43 | [TeA] | sure |
| 14:15:46 | strayer | was, cause U were napping...hehe |
| 14:15:52 | [TeA] | hehe :P |
| 14:15:57 | [TeA] | im to old |
| 14:16:17 | strayer | of course..hehe |
| 14:16:27 | [TeA] | :P |
| 14:16:35 | strayer | U and old.... |
| 14:16:36 | [TeA] | du diablo vernatiker |
| 14:16:40 | [TeA] | .............. |
| 14:16:46 | strayer | no...thats not my game |
| 14:16:58 | [TeA] | im a very young lttle sweet penguin |
| 14:17:15 | [TeA] | hi MrCoopi de Coppolaris |
| 14:17:21 | mandy | how old are you tea? |
| 14:17:24 | [TeA] | 24 |
| 14:17:27 | mandy | oh |
| 14:17:31 | [TeA] | brb |
| 14:17:35 | mandy | I turned 20 yesterday |
| 14:18:23 | strayer | uhg....now U know what will happen to U if U R 24... ;) |
| 14:18:41 | mandy | lol |
| 14:19:19 | [TeA] | mandy happy birthday afterwards |
| 14:19:26 | mandy | thanks :) |
| 14:36:21 | [TeA] | somewone there |
| 14:36:30 | strayer | me |
| 14:36:39 | mandy | what? |
| 14:36:43 | mandy | oh lol |
| 14:36:48 | jpablo | damn, how much bandwidth does bzflag needs ? |
| 14:37:05 | jpablo | im running a sever in a E1 and all people is laggy. |
| 14:37:27 | [TeA] | question |
| 14:37:28 | strayer | hm...dunno...around 100kb should be enough..or? |
| 14:37:36 | [TeA] | whats this dolby sourounddound theme called |
| 14:37:52 | [TeA] | when you go to cinemas you get it befor the beginn |
| 14:38:07 | [TeA] | of the film |
| 14:38:15 | [TeA] | beginning what ever |
| 14:38:42 | strayer | inro? |
| 14:38:47 | [TeA] | yeah |
| 14:38:52 | strayer | oh no...wrong...sry |
| 14:38:54 | [TeA] | dunno |
| 14:39:11 | [TeA] | weischt was ich mein |
| 14:39:22 | [TeA] | dieses dadadadadadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ;) |
| 14:40:07 | strayer | hm...nö, aber ich glaub ich kriegs dennoch raus |
| 14:40:26 | [TeA] | per kazaa |
| 14:42:54 | strayer | [TeA]: n freund von mir hats mal benutzt...er meint es hieße THX....ider so |
| 14:43:04 | [TeA] | hmm |
| 14:43:21 | strayer | uhhhh...win98? |
| 14:44:15 | [TeA]XP | hehe |
| 14:44:23 | [TeA]98 | hoho |
| 14:44:34 | strayer | ah...:) |
| 14:45:01 | [TeA]98 | bin hier auf 98 |
| 14:45:09 | [TeA]98 | und auf mein anderes pc |
| 14:45:19 | strayer | is klar |
| 14:45:23 | [TeA]98 | roll grad wie ein verueckter auf mein stuhl hin und her |
| 14:45:39 | [TeA]98 | vor allem neuer designer ikea stuhl |
| 14:45:46 | [TeA]98 | des hat rollen wie bei inlineskates |
| 14:45:47 | [TeA]98 | :) |
| 14:45:54 | [TeA]98 | ohne with |
| 14:45:57 | [TeA]98 | witz |
| 14:46:04 | strayer | wow |
| 14:46:14 | [TeA]98 | is lustig |
| 14:46:16 | [TeA]98 | ;) |
| 14:46:47 | strayer | hehe...hast auf den link im query geschaut? |
| 14:47:01 | [TeA]98 | ? |
| 14:47:05 | bomber | bye people |
| 14:47:08 | strayer | cu |
| 14:47:12 | [TeA]98 | bye bomber |
| 14:47:37 | [TeA]98 | ganz nett |
| 14:47:41 | [TeA]98 | das gehause |
| 14:47:58 | strayer | :)....und net mal teuer |
| 14:49:32 | [TeA]98 | lalalalalala |
| 14:49:59 | strayer | lililililili |
| 14:50:12 | mandy | =\ |
| 14:50:23 | strayer | pardon? |
| 14:50:33 | [TeA]98 | ? |
| 14:51:35 | mandy | huh? |
| 14:51:49 | [TeA]98 | ha? |
| 14:52:08 | mandy | what? |
| 14:53:34 | [TeA]XP | dunno |
| 14:54:13 | strayer | U know nothing... :p |
| 14:55:39 | [TeA]XP | thx |
| 14:56:27 | mandy | hehe |
| 14:56:31 | strayer | please...i do my very best |
| 14:57:10 | [TeA]XP | :) |
| 14:57:15 | [TeA]XP | LOL |
| 15:04:36 | [TeA]98 | who has xp ? |
| 15:04:46 | strayer | me...hehe |
| 15:05:49 | strayer | why?....du U have a problem? |
| 15:05:57 | strayer | ...i mean with XP... |
| 15:06:00 | theos | lo all |
| 15:06:20 | strayer | hi theos |
| 15:08:57 | [TeA]98 | yes |
| 15:28:46 | Widget | hihihi |
| 15:29:35 | strayer | hi Widget |
| 15:30:15 | mandy | hihihi widget |
| 15:32:50 | [TeA]98 | hohoho widget |
| 15:33:47 | mandy | lol |
| 15:38:33 | [TeA]98 | LaLalalalaaaaaa..... |
| 15:38:59 | mandy | lalala |
| 15:42:04 | Nicole | hilo |
| 15:42:08 | jzaun | hi |
| 15:42:29 | mandy | hello |
| 15:43:13 | Nicole | soooo |
| 15:49:24 | Toast | What does it mean when the server responds [team] UNKNOWN |
| 15:54:13 | Widget | Nimen hao. |
| 15:54:27 | Widget | Tongzhi men hao! |
| 15:54:36 | Nicole | er? |
| 15:55:25 | Widget | Er is chinese for "two". |
| 15:55:36 | Nicole | a huh |
| 15:59:50 | | jzaun was last seen on #bzflag 17 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: hi [Sat Sep 7 16:42:08 2002] |
| 15:59:50 | Widget | ibot: seen jzaun |
| 16:00:12 | Widget | jzaun: A lot of the links on your rotating server website are broken. |
| 16:08:21 | Toast | ne1 here? |
| 16:11:25 | bomber | hi |
| 16:11:28 | bomber | :o) |
| 17:06:29 | doughecka | yo |
| 17:06:40 | mandy | helloo |
| 17:07:04 | patalbor221 | bleh |
| 17:07:16 | mandy | blah |
| 17:08:12 | patalbor221 | damn strait |
| 17:08:39 | Widget | Damn linear. |
| 17:08:55 | patalbor221 | damn bicubic cruve. |
| 17:09:42 | patalbor221 | ick my mouse is filthy |
| 17:10:35 | mandy | yawns |
| 17:11:25 | patalbor221 | imerses his mouse in simple green |
| 17:11:28 | mandy | also streches |
| 17:12:10 | mandy | br |
| 17:12:12 | mandy | brb |
| 17:15:06 | patalbor221 | bahh I need more optical mice |
| 17:16:10 | doughecka | more? |
| 17:16:18 | patalbor221 | yes more |
| 17:16:24 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:16:25 | patalbor221 | I don't have enough |
| 17:16:31 | doughecka | Mmm |
| 17:17:10 | doughecka | tsk, I cant get the p2501 map format correct.. |
| 17:17:22 | doughecka | trying to do the repulse thing |
| 17:17:38 | doughecka | cant get the syntax correct |
| 17:17:58 | patalbor221 | you have the latest client? |
| 17:18:02 | patalbor221 | or still that same old one? |
| 17:18:03 | doughecka | yup |
| 17:18:09 | doughecka | latest |
| 17:18:14 | patalbor221 | bastard didn't send it to me |
| 17:18:16 | iLLf8d | ph brb |
| 17:18:19 | doughecka | haha |
| 17:18:23 | doughecka | I can send it to ya |
| 17:18:26 | doughecka | DCC? |
| 17:18:33 | patalbor221 | you can try |
| 17:18:57 | doughecka | sending |
| 17:19:17 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:19:23 | doughecka | email |
| 17:19:35 | patalbor221 | sure |
| 17:19:42 | patalbor221 | I think I need more speakers too |
| 17:19:54 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:20:23 | doughecka | sent |
| 17:20:31 | patalbor221 | something with a sub woofer |
| 17:20:35 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:20:39 | doughecka | 5.1? |
| 17:21:07 | patalbor221 | no |
| 17:21:10 | doughecka | hm |
| 17:21:19 | patalbor221 | not digial or anything |
| 17:21:23 | doughecka | o |
| 17:21:24 | doughecka | h |
| 17:21:25 | patalbor221 | just mains with a sub |
| 17:21:30 | patalbor221 | and some rears |
| 17:21:35 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:21:40 | patalbor221 | and something for the other PCS |
| 17:21:55 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:22:14 | patalbor221 | these harmon kardons are geting old |
| 17:22:19 | doughecka | old? |
| 17:22:25 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:22:45 | patalbor221 | yeah |
| 17:22:55 | patalbor221 | cloth is wearing off on them |
| 17:23:43 | doughecka | oh |
| 17:23:49 | doughecka | if you dont want them.... |
| 17:23:52 | patalbor221 | proalbably hook up the SB live too |
| 17:23:58 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:24:07 | doughecka | I have a cheaper live card... |
| 17:24:27 | doughecka | does not have anything special on it |
| 17:25:02 | patalbor221 | Mine has 2 line outs |
| 17:25:10 | patalbor221 | and all that EAX stuff |
| 17:25:24 | patalbor221 | it's only like a $30 card |
| 17:25:29 | patalbor221 | it's the one cap wants |
| 17:25:51 | patalbor221 | I want to see how many hardware channels it supports |
| 17:26:26 | patalbor221 | I think I'll go pick up a set of these |
| 17:26:43 | patalbor221 | http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?pn=070940 |
| 17:26:51 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:26:58 | doughecka | pretty |
| 17:27:00 | doughecka | 4 speakers? |
| 17:27:07 | doughecka | or 2? |
| 17:27:09 | doughecka | + sub |
| 17:27:12 | patalbor221 | no 2 and a sub |
| 17:27:18 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:27:29 | patalbor221 | I'll use the old ones as rears |
| 17:27:34 | doughecka | $100!!!! |
| 17:27:37 | doughecka | woah |
| 17:27:39 | mandy | i'm back |
| 17:27:46 | doughecka | I shall stickl to my headphones... |
| 17:28:03 | patalbor221 | how can you get full VR imersion with that? |
| 17:28:23 | doughecka | tsk, I think headphones are great |
| 17:28:29 | doughecka | private |
| 17:28:35 | patalbor221 | no thump |
| 17:28:39 | doughecka | nobody wanting it turned down |
| 17:28:46 | doughecka | true.... |
| 17:28:58 | doughecka | but I dont really use speakers... |
| 17:29:01 | patalbor221 | well if you don't live with your parents then it's not an issue is it |
| 17:29:06 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:29:14 | doughecka | there enlies the truth |
| 17:32:21 | doughecka | setExtras([INTEGER]EXTRATYPE); |
| 17:32:30 | doughecka | do I keep the [ ] in it? |
| 17:32:32 | doughecka | or not |
| 17:32:38 | mandy | bleh pat |
| 17:36:14 | doughecka | patalbor221: got my email? |
| 17:42:56 | patalbor221 | that I did |
| 17:43:20 | patalbor221 | hmmm |
| 17:43:21 | doughecka | k |
| 17:43:28 | patalbor221 | now I wonder where I put the data files |
| 17:43:33 | doughecka | for... |
| 17:43:41 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:43:43 | patalbor221 | the game |
| 17:43:46 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:43:52 | doughecka | I cant find his defalt world |
| 17:44:03 | doughecka | the one that shows up when you start the game... |
| 17:44:12 | doughecka | it sure would help to see it |
| 17:44:21 | doughecka | but I guess its in the code |
| 17:44:24 | patalbor221 | it's in the VFS |
| 17:44:31 | doughecka | nope |
| 17:44:33 | doughecka | checked it |
| 17:44:47 | mandy | ohhhh |
| 17:44:57 | mandy | i'm being dissed again >:( |
| 17:45:12 | patalbor221 | sorry |
| 17:45:32 | mandy | oh well |
| 17:45:45 | doughecka | bah |
| 17:45:49 | doughecka | cant figure it out... |
| 17:46:42 | patalbor221 | dude it's testworld.wrld |
| 17:47:37 | doughecka | woo |
| 17:47:40 | doughecka | no it aint |
| 17:47:57 | doughecka | you type in loadworld testworld.wrld |
| 17:48:00 | doughecka | and it loads it |
| 17:48:12 | doughecka | its not the startup world |
| 17:48:23 | doughecka | the startup world has a spinning globe thingy |
| 17:48:32 | patalbor221 | that flame thrower is weak |
| 17:48:36 | doughecka | yea |
| 17:48:41 | doughecka | woo, I got it... |
| 17:48:52 | doughecka | now how do I set the about... |
| 17:50:04 | mandy | well i gotta go be depressed and stuff |
| 17:50:11 | doughecka | k |
| 17:50:16 | mandy | so buh bye every1 |
| 17:50:23 | doughecka | see you round |
| 17:54:43 | doughecka | @#%$%#$%#$%#$% |
| 17:55:50 | patalbor221 | wow he hasn' realy dont anything to fix col det |
| 17:58:32 | [TeA]98 | hohoho |
| 18:00:00 | scanline | is back (gone 03:46:27) |
| 18:00:25 | captain_proton | curses and wonders how doughecka got ahold of his email address |
| 18:00:42 | captain_proton | web page probably |
| 18:01:54 | scanline | captain_proton: it's easy to look you up |
| 18:02:20 | scanline | captain_proton: last semester I ran every name in the BZFlag sourceforge project through the colorado.edu student directory to find your real name :) |
| 18:07:24 | [TeA]98 | |
| 18:08:25 | captain_proton | scanline: yes, but he didn't know about that |
| 18:08:35 | captain_proton | and he didn't send it to my colorado.edu addy |
| 18:10:26 | strayer | hi ladies..... |
| 18:11:44 | [TeA]98 | hi |
| 18:11:58 | [TeA]98 | im a little bird but not a lady |
| 18:12:17 | strayer | ah..ok, if U say so... |
| 18:12:24 | [TeA]98 | patalbor221: ?? |
| 18:12:25 | [TeA]98 | :> |
| 18:12:43 | captain_proton | hmm, i need to figure out how to rebind the key that switches tabs in gnome-terminal |
| 18:12:50 | [TeA]98 | :x |
| 18:12:53 | jpablo | captain_proton: gnome terminal 2 ? |
| 18:13:23 | jpablo | i think so, since gnome-terminal 1 don't have tabs :P |
| 18:13:34 | jpablo | captain_proton: have to changue the gconf key. |
| 18:13:39 | patalbor221 | wheeeee don't ever unplug the dsl modlem |
| 18:13:55 | jpablo | captain_proton: download gconf-editor, that's the easiest way. |
| 18:14:22 | captain_proton | jpablo: hmm, no gconf necessary! |
| 18:14:28 | captain_proton | edit->keybindings :) |
| 18:15:40 | jpablo | oh, the old version did had that. |
| 18:15:47 | jpablo | i had to changue the keys :P |
| 18:22:45 | captain_proton | jpablo: erf, don't suppose you know how to write out the absolute full path for $datadir to config.h? |
| 18:23:15 | Widget | Curses. Hewitt is being crushed. |
| 18:23:17 | Patlabor221 | ahhhhh |
| 18:23:18 | Patlabor221 | there |
| 18:23:32 | Patlabor221 | leeeenuyx laptop is online |
| 18:23:35 | mandy | lalala |
| 18:24:23 | jpablo | captain_proton: $datadir is a absolute full path if i remember correctly. |
| 18:24:40 | jpablo | Patlabor221: want a resend of mac + |
| 18:25:00 | Patlabor221 | we can try |
| 18:25:18 | captain_proton | #define DATADIRECTORY "${prefix}/share" |
| 18:25:19 | Widget | Hm... Agassi has a two set lead. |
| 18:25:21 | Widget | Bad |
| 18:26:03 | bryjen | Widget: second set in a tiebreak. not really crushing |
| 18:26:13 | jpablo | humm. |
| 18:26:29 | Patlabor221 | bahhhh, can't get the X to swithc the laptop to it's monitor output |
| 18:26:41 | jpablo | Patlabor221: get it. |
| 18:26:56 | Patlabor221 | it's going now |
| 18:27:01 | Patlabor221 | just too many things to do :) |
| 18:27:03 | Widget | bryjen: Well, he managed to come back from a 3 point deficit in the tiebreak, but still... he's playing badly. |
| 18:27:25 | Widget | bryjen: Rememeber in the match against El Aynaoui, he made like 42 unforced errors? |
| 18:27:49 | jpablo | Patlabor221: we have good speed, nice. |
| 18:28:00 | Patlabor221 | huzzah |
| 18:28:10 | Patlabor221 | hope there is room on this laptop |
| 18:29:31 | jpablo | eek. |
| 18:29:50 | jpablo | Patlabor221: i'll leave in 5 min, i'll send you the file then, since that is killing my connecion :P |
| 18:29:59 | captain_proton | jpablo: any ideas? |
| 18:29:59 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 18:30:52 | jpablo | captain_proton: why do you want it in config.h ? |
| 18:31:11 | captain_proton | jpablo: i need to have the string somewhere inside of the code so i know what filenames to use for the textures |
| 18:31:13 | jpablo | captain_proton: what about a -DDATADIR=/something/ in yor gcc line, that's eaiser to do. |
| 18:31:19 | captain_proton | oh? tell me |
| 18:31:36 | jpablo | your edit your Makefile.am |
| 18:31:56 | jpablo | and add -DDATADIR=\""$(datadir)"\" ... |
| 18:32:28 | captain_proton | add that to what? |
| 18:32:37 | jpablo | to your CFLAGS. |
| 18:33:10 | jpablo | try this: |
| 18:33:25 | jpablo | INCLUDES = -DDATADIR=\""$(datadir)"\" |
| 18:33:40 | captain_proton | attempting |
| 18:35:37 | captain_proton | doesn't seem to have added it |
| 18:35:53 | captain_proton | just CFLAGS = -DDATADIR=\""$(datadir)"\" in Makefile.am ? |
| 18:36:14 | jpablo | humm, that should do it, if CFLAGS does not work try INCLUDES = .... |
| 18:36:20 | jpablo | and remember to automake again. |
| 18:37:25 | captain_proton | woooooo! |
| 18:38:39 | jpablo | :-) |
| 18:45:30 | jpablo | Patlabor221: get it. |
| 18:45:36 | jpablo | cool i'm off. |
| 18:46:00 | Patlabor221 | it's a goin |
| 18:54:34 | mandy | hihihi |
| 18:54:47 | captain_proton | noooooooooooooooooooooooom |
| 18:54:52 | mandy | hi nuum |
| 18:55:40 | nuum | sup |
| 18:55:45 | nuum | i was just owning on turkey. |
| 18:55:53 | nuum | except for that cheeky little greenmonkey. |
| 18:55:55 | mandy | hmm |
| 18:55:55 | captain_proton | looks like tomorrow may have come |
| 18:56:07 | mandy | sits |
| 18:56:09 | nuum | ? |
| 18:56:25 | nuum | dig, got a course on special relativity... |
| 18:56:31 | captain_proton | points to the end of the topic |
| 18:57:04 | nuum | yeah, so where is the release? |
| 18:57:20 | captain_proton | just 1 outstanding bug left before it comes |
| 18:57:27 | nuum | whats the bug? |
| 18:58:05 | captain_proton | the 'do you want to save the modified file' stuff acts a little weird |
| 18:58:08 | nuum | anyway, i've gotta go set up some ssh stuff |
| 18:58:24 | nuum | right, problems determining "mods"? |
| 18:58:34 | nuum | or the "cancel" option don't work? |
| 18:58:48 | captain_proton | no, just things like if you say you want to save then cancel the save dialog it sits there without quitting |
| 19:00:11 | nuum | it should pop back to the "save modded file" dialog |
| 19:00:27 | nuum | anyway, good luck prot. |
| 19:00:42 | nuum | got any stravinsky for me? |
| 19:01:44 | captain_proton | not at the moment |
| 19:02:15 | mandy | ok bye everyone |
| 19:02:53 | mandy | byee |
| 19:05:00 | bzgirl | hello |
| 19:05:05 | paul | hi |
| 19:30:56 | captain_proton | jzaun: here? :) |
| 19:31:27 | Patlabor221 | how do I find my local Ip in lin? |
| 19:31:34 | Patlabor221 | if I'm DHCP |
| 19:31:45 | paul | lin? linux? try ifconfig |
| 19:32:01 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 19:32:02 | paul | ip address - works on a modern dist |
| 19:32:14 | paul | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 19:32:19 | paul | /sbin/ip address |
| 19:32:28 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 19:35:40 | captain_proton | pokes jzaun again |
| 19:46:06 | jzaun | hi |
| 19:46:17 | jzaun | pokes captain_proton back |
| 19:47:38 | jzaun | screams as loud as he can at captain_proton trying to get his attention... |
| 19:48:39 | jzaun | irc need a /beep <nick> command |
| 19:52:06 | jzaun | captain_proton: I'll be back at my computer in 10 min. you got Dia? |
| 20:00:32 | Patlabor221 | is out and about. |
| 20:02:43 | jzaun | back |
| 20:03:28 | [TeA]XP | hohoho |
| 20:03:48 | jzaun | Its not x-mas yet, Santa shouldn't be here yet |
| 20:04:21 | [TeA]98 | lol |
| 20:04:30 | [TeA]98 | good reaswer |
| 20:04:38 | jzaun | :) |
| 20:04:41 | [TeA]98 | :) |
| 20:05:03 | [TeA]98 | 11:11 PM here |
| 20:05:16 | jzaun | 5:11 PM here |
| 20:05:22 | [TeA]98 | :( |
| 20:05:29 | [TeA]98 | i want that |
| 20:05:30 | [TeA]98 | :) |
| 20:05:42 | jzaun | Why? skips 1/2 the day away |
| 20:06:38 | jzaun | So, where is captain_proton? |
| 20:07:01 | jzaun | He tryed to get ahold of me while I was napping... now that I'm up, he's gone |
| 20:07:13 | [TeA]98 | :s :-) :-( ;-) :-p :-o :-{} :-@ 8-) :-$ :*) :-[ O-) :-\ :'-( :-X :-D :| :> =; :x 8o :J :L :-? LOL |
| 20:07:30 | [TeA]98 | hehe LOL |
| 20:07:50 | jzaun | well that was strange, 1/2 them got turned into little graphical smilies the other 1/2 didn't |
| 20:08:08 | [TeA]98 | well if you had trillan |
| 20:08:16 | [TeA]98 | they all are smilies |
| 20:08:17 | jzaun | trillan? |
| 20:08:45 | [TeA]98 | messiger ( ICQ, mIRC , Yahoo , AOL , MSN ) in one ( http://www.trillan.cc ) |
| 20:08:56 | [TeA]98 | hohoho mandy |
| 20:09:02 | mandy | hihihi |
| 20:09:05 | [TeA]98 | :P |
| 20:09:10 | jzaun | I use gaim... same sorta app though |
| 20:09:10 | mandy | =\ |
| 20:09:13 | [TeA]98 | ;) |
| 20:09:41 | jzaun | [TeA]98: that URL redirects to http://hanky-panky-college.com/ |
| 20:10:52 | jzaun | brb - door |
| 20:11:08 | [TeA]98 | jzaun ? |
| 20:15:07 | jzaun | back |
| 20:15:23 | jzaun | [TeA]98: The URL you gave me redirects to the one I said |
| 20:15:31 | [TeA]98 | i have seen |
| 20:15:35 | [TeA]98 | thats wierd |
| 20:15:40 | [TeA]98 | maybe a different one |
| 20:15:52 | [TeA]98 | but und htttp://www.download.com |
| 20:16:03 | [TeA]98 | the you can download it |
| 20:16:36 | jzaun | I take it its for win not lin |
| 20:17:38 | BZig | .. |
| 20:17:53 | BZig | What happened to ducati? |
| 20:18:50 | captain_proton | jzaun: http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/tarballs/ ;) |
| 20:19:12 | jzaun | captain_proton: is that what I think it is? :-) :-) :-) |
| 20:20:37 | BZig | <BZig> What happened to ducati? |
| 20:22:13 | [TeA]XP | brb with xp |
| 20:22:28 | [TeA]XP | BZig closed down for we |
| 20:22:40 | BZig | "For we"? |
| 20:25:17 | captain_proton | jzaun: yes yes yes! |
| 20:26:30 | jzaun | captain_proton: Cool, now just to frick with configure to it sees my gtkglarea installed. |
| 20:26:45 | captain_proton | jzaun: check config.log - could be an LDFLAGS issue |
| 20:28:19 | Jeremiah | Proton... we need to chat for a sec |
| 20:28:53 | Jeremiah | I'm sorry about that problem on noodleroni... I realize what happened. I reset the clock time (I was playing with admin. commands) and it reset the flags |
| 20:29:03 | Jeremiah | I'm sorry... I didn't realize that that happened |
| 20:29:04 | [TeA]98 | well im goin to bed |
| 20:29:26 | [TeA]98 | BZig ? |
| 20:29:33 | [TeA]98 | we =weekend |
| 20:32:15 | jzaun | captain_proton: confg.log is giberish to me.... |
| 20:32:25 | jzaun | captain_proton: can I e-mail it to you to look at? |
| 20:35:11 | Jeremiah | captain_proton... will you please answer me? |
| 20:37:46 | captain_proton | Jeremiah: sorry i was doing something |
| 20:38:02 | captain_proton | jzaun: email away |
| 20:39:26 | jzaun | captain_proton: your addy? |
| 20:40:05 | Jeremiah | Did you get what I said? |
| 20:40:27 | Jeremiah | I'm really sorry proton..... I didn't know that the time reset made you lose your flag :-( |
| 20:40:42 | Jeremiah | I thought you were just mad at me for trash talking you |
| 20:41:08 | captain_proton | jzaun: jupiter at babylonia dot flatirons dot org |
| 20:41:31 | captain_proton | Jeremiah: i don't get mad at bzflag players unless they're cheating |
| 20:41:32 | jzaun | cap sent |
| 20:41:35 | captain_proton | or abusing admin :P |
| 20:41:54 | Jeremiah | Well, I didn't know that... and I honestly didn't know that you'd lose your flag with the time reset |
| 20:42:07 | Jeremiah | If I'd known that, I would've waited to test admin commands until you were gone |
| 20:42:26 | captain_proton | jzaun: try 'export LDFLAGS=-L/usr/X11R6/lib/' and then configure |
| 20:43:08 | jzaun | nope, same error |
| 20:43:18 | captain_proton | Jeremiah: where did that time extension come from? its not in the main tree, and it should be posted as a patch on sourceforge |
| 20:43:28 | captain_proton | jzaun: locate libGL |
| 20:43:42 | Jeremiah | Oh???? |
| 20:43:54 | Jeremiah | Well.... the command is on Apathy's page in the admin commands |
| 20:44:26 | Jeremiah | I think it's /countdown |
| 20:44:40 | iLLf8d | jzaun: whats your homepage again? |
| 20:44:40 | jzaun | /usr/lib/libGL.so /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.2960 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so etc... |
| 20:44:45 | iLLf8d | so I don't have to check my email |
| 20:45:20 | jzaun | bzflag.jzaun.com (for the server) justin.jzaun.com (for me) library.jzaun.com (for my DVDs) jzaun.com (for my moms) |
| 20:46:17 | captain_proton | hmm at /countdown |
| 20:46:22 | captain_proton | jzaun: lemme look at config.log again |
| 20:46:32 | Jeremiah | I have to go guys |
| 20:46:34 | captain_proton | jzaun: locate libGLU |
| 20:46:38 | Jeremiah | Sorry... |
| 20:46:41 | Jeremiah | Look at Apathy's page... it's on there |
| 20:46:53 | Jeremiah | The command IS "/countdown"... it starts the countdown over |
| 20:46:54 | jzaun | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so |
| 20:46:58 | Jeremiah | C-ya later guys! |
| 20:47:25 | captain_proton | and the export didn't work? |
| 20:47:41 | jzaun | nope |
| 20:49:49 | captain_proton | ponders |
| 20:50:03 | jzaun | eats.. be back in 10 |
| 20:53:08 | Patlabor221 | likes his new speakers |
| 20:57:42 | jzaun | is back |
| 20:57:58 | jzaun | Sny luck pndering captain_proton? |
| 20:58:36 | mandy | yawns |
| 21:00:20 | Patlabor221 | cap: you find a good place for that sound card? |
| 21:00:36 | captain_proton | jzaun: you have a config.log after the export? |
| 21:00:48 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: not yet, been working on other things |
| 21:00:54 | captain_proton | like getting bzedit 2.1 out the door |
| 21:01:16 | Patlabor221 | there's no way you'll fit that our the door, it's too wide. |
| 21:01:39 | Widget | jzaun: hihihi |
| 21:01:54 | jzaun | captain_proton: new log senty |
| 21:01:56 | Widget | jzaun: A lot of the links on your webpage are broken... they have to point to files in the bzflag directory. |
| 21:01:57 | jzaun | hi Widget |
| 21:02:15 | jzaun | Widget: What links? |
| 21:02:21 | Widget | jzaun: All the ones on the right. |
| 21:02:31 | Widget | jzaun: On the BZFlag webpage. |
| 21:02:42 | jzaun | Can't be... they work for me and others... what error you get? |
| 21:03:05 | Widget | jzaun: For me, the links point to like http://jzaun.com/maps.shtml |
| 21:03:16 | Widget | jzaun: Instead of http://jzaun.com/bzflag/maps.shtml which worls. |
| 21:03:17 | jzaun | Widget: What browser? |
| 21:03:33 | BZig | Hi Widget! |
| 21:03:33 | Widget | jzaun: Konqueror. |
| 21:03:36 | Widget | BZig: hihihi |
| 21:03:45 | jzaun | hmm... what URL did you start with? |
| 21:04:03 | Widget | http://www.jzaun.com/bzflag |
| 21:04:06 | jzaun | he |
| 21:04:09 | Widget | http://www.jzaun.com/bzflag/ |
| 21:04:14 | jzaun | http://bzflag.jzaun.com |
| 21:04:25 | Widget | Oops. :) |
| 21:04:35 | jzaun | I use virtual hosting |
| 21:04:37 | mandy | sneezes |
| 21:04:51 | jzaun | God-Bless-You mandy |
| 21:05:16 | jzaun | Widget: site work better now? |
| 21:05:43 | Widget | jzaun: Yep. :) Thanks. |
| 21:06:44 | jzaun | captain_proton: new log help at all? |
| 21:07:45 | captain_proton | jzaun: export LDFLAGS="-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lpthread" |
| 21:09:45 | nuum | -pthread? |
| 21:10:01 | nuum | you've come to your senses? |
| 21:10:03 | jzaun | Found GL but not gtkglarea |
| 21:12:13 | jzaun | captain_proton: let me make sure I got the latest gtkgl installed... I am 99% sure I do though |
| 21:12:37 | captain_proton | its best to grab it from cvs |
| 21:12:52 | captain_proton | nuum: naw, libGLU depends on libpthread ;) |
| 21:13:04 | nuum | well |
| 21:13:06 | nuum | i'm gonna hack up 1.8 |
| 21:13:13 | captain_proton | good, good |
| 21:13:27 | captain_proton | and his roommate are working in the sexy new bzedit 2.1, making the 'dormitorium' |
| 21:13:27 | nuum | then i'll have my patches rejected... |
| 21:14:07 | captain_proton | depends if they're clean and useful |
| 21:14:39 | nuum | yeah, style doesn't matter, i forgot, it's bzflag |
| 21:15:16 | BZig | dont worry nuum |
| 21:15:24 | BZig | Use your anger to mass produce cheats |
| 21:15:28 | nuum | don't worry about what? |
| 21:15:40 | nuum | right, cheats are so fun, like i don't own the field anyway. |
| 21:15:50 | BZig | I meant for me |
| 21:15:56 | nuum | you want cheats? |
| 21:16:03 | BZig | I want h4x |
| 21:16:04 | nuum | or you want me to use my cheats on you? |
| 21:16:13 | jzaun | captain_proton: How do I get the CVS of gtkglarea? |
| 21:16:13 | nuum | i want lunch. |
| 21:16:30 | nuum | zig: wasn't i playing you the other day? 1vs1? |
| 21:16:30 | BZig | ;0 |
| 21:16:36 | BZig | yep |
| 21:16:45 | nuum | yeah, i need cheats for bzig |
| 21:16:48 | nuum | he's good. |
| 21:17:01 | BZig | but then our cheats will cancel out |
| 21:17:14 | nuum | heh. show me your cheats and i'll show you mine ;) |
| 21:17:19 | Patlabor221 | hmmm htese BA745's are not to bad |
| 21:17:26 | BZig | :0 |
| 21:17:37 | BZig | I can't make a cheat, i just hope someone else does |
| 21:17:45 | BZig | and its not complete owned by viruses |
| 21:18:20 | jzaun | cheat make the game no fun though |
| 21:18:33 | BZig | tell that to 50% of diablo II players |
| 21:18:53 | BZig | 50 000 are online right now |
| 21:20:02 | BZig | BZFlag doesnt have a big enough community to have too much cheating |
| 21:20:35 | Patlabor221 | that's because it dosn't have boobies |
| 21:21:08 | captain_proton | jzaun: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome co gtkglarea |
| 21:21:09 | BZig | uh, boobies? |
| 21:21:20 | Patlabor221 | yeah all the polular games have them |
| 21:21:40 | BZig | :) true |
| 21:22:08 | Patlabor221 | and change the name to "tank raider II XP milenium edition" |
| 21:22:15 | BZig | but when you have a game with at least 50 000 people on at any time its hard to prevent cheats ;) |
| 21:22:38 | Patlabor221 | yeah well when you have that many people you can't let the client do hit detection |
| 21:23:05 | BZig | Diablo II was actually cheat-free for 2 years |
| 21:23:11 | nuum | bzflag couldn't handle 50000 people |
| 21:23:18 | BZig | despite having 50k + teenage players |
| 21:23:20 | Patlabor221 | not on one server |
| 21:23:22 | BZig | :) |
| 21:23:27 | Patlabor221 | and no boobies |
| 21:23:38 | BZig | Blizzard did quite a job, then was overrun by hackers and now the game is retarded |
| 21:23:57 | Patlabor221 | well I thought that when it first came out |
| 21:24:59 | BZig | :0 |
| 21:25:08 | BZig | Also the creators of BZflag aren't a multi-million dollar company |
| 21:25:10 | Patlabor221 | well for the time it took to come out.... |
| 21:25:21 | Patlabor221 | I was thinking "I waited 3 years for this" |
| 21:25:24 | Patlabor221 | I loved D1 |
| 21:25:30 | BZig | Diablo II was good |
| 21:25:37 | Patlabor221 | it was more of the same |
| 21:25:39 | BZig | even with all the hackers, they have an average IQ of 75 |
| 21:25:43 | Patlabor221 | and repetiitve |
| 21:26:01 | BZig | :) |
| 21:26:02 | Patlabor221 | beat it once and then there was no point in doing it again |
| 21:26:06 | BZig | Thats why you get a bot to do it for you |
| 21:26:12 | BZig | Then you "duel" |
| 21:26:12 | Patlabor221 | yeah no fun |
| 21:26:35 | BZig | Dueling is fun |
| 21:26:47 | Patlabor221 | sure in an infantile way |
| 21:26:55 | BZig | 90% of the players use the Amazon, with guided arrow (like GM but faster) |
| 21:27:04 | BZig | never even heard of the word strategy |
| 21:27:39 | Patlabor221 | I broke a mouse on D1 |
| 21:27:50 | BZig | lol |
| 21:27:50 | Patlabor221 | kinda felt the sameway about warcard 3 |
| 21:27:56 | BZig | Warcard? |
| 21:27:56 | Patlabor221 | warcraft 3 |
| 21:28:02 | BZig | Warcraft 3 is okay |
| 21:28:08 | Patlabor221 | it's warcraft 2 in 3d |
| 21:28:13 | BZig | Starcraft with more luck and less skill |
| 21:28:16 | Patlabor221 | there is NOTING new |
| 21:28:24 | BZig | Heros and items are new |
| 21:28:32 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's not much tho |
| 21:28:45 | Patlabor221 | there have been soo many enhancments in RTS interfaces since W2 came out |
| 21:28:55 | Patlabor221 | and they didn't even try to put those in |
| 21:28:57 | BZig | True |
| 21:29:05 | BZig | but its not RTS, its "RPS" |
| 21:29:13 | BZig | Roleplaying strategy .. |
| 21:29:19 | BZig | something liek that |
| 21:29:21 | Patlabor221 | RTPS |
| 21:29:32 | BZig | Ah ;) |
| 21:29:38 | Patlabor221 | still, why can't I hold down shift and chain up commands |
| 21:29:50 | BZig | They increased average unit health by about 10x |
| 21:29:50 | Patlabor221 | why do I have limits on what a thing can build |
| 21:30:01 | nuum | stop chatting and hack. |
| 21:30:02 | Patlabor221 | play total anialation |
| 21:30:04 | BZig | Pat: Did you play starcraft? |
| 21:30:09 | Patlabor221 | I did |
| 21:30:11 | nuum | i want to see your submissions by 4pm |
| 21:30:13 | Patlabor221 | I liked the sotry |
| 21:30:17 | Patlabor221 | story |
| 21:30:24 | nuum | and go listen to some boards of canada. |
| 21:30:29 | Patlabor221 | but I was too frustraited by the interface |
| 21:30:38 | Patlabor221 | got spoiled by the interface in TA |
| 21:30:48 | BZig | :) |
| 21:30:53 | Patlabor221 | that made it soo nice, it actualy helped me play |
| 21:30:55 | BZig | You have to play starcraft online to understand |
| 21:31:03 | BZig | Very challenging game |
| 21:31:13 | Patlabor221 | why would I want to play with a bunch of zerg rushhers |
| 21:31:18 | Patlabor221 | and script kiddies |
| 21:31:22 | BZig | ha |
| 21:31:25 | BZig | Zerg rush is dumb |
| 21:31:40 | Patlabor221 | if I'm gonin online, it's ether with a shotgun |
| 21:31:49 | Patlabor221 | or into a mmorpg |
| 21:31:56 | BZig | :) |
| 21:32:16 | BZig | Starcraft is a very good and developed game at higher levels |
| 21:32:26 | BZig | Its like chess, just expanded |
| 21:32:33 | Patlabor221 | still, the interface isn't all that it could be |
| 21:32:39 | Patlabor221 | and 800x600 |
| 21:32:47 | Patlabor221 | looks like crap on a 21" |
| 21:32:47 | BZig | Interface is nothing |
| 21:32:55 | Patlabor221 | intreface is everything |
| 21:32:58 | Patlabor221 | that's all a game is |
| 21:32:59 | Widget | Wooooow.... my aunt got me a watch. |
| 21:32:59 | BZig | Its the game mechanics that count |
| 21:33:11 | BZig | A watch? :) |
| 21:33:16 | Widget | A watch. |
| 21:33:23 | BZig | Now you don't have any excuse to be late for a match. |
| 21:33:24 | Widget | An American watch. |
| 21:33:25 | Patlabor221 | you kknow a clock on your hand |
| 21:33:36 | Patlabor221 | we have our own kind? |
| 21:33:37 | BZig | Can you convert American hours to NZ hours? |
| 21:33:39 | BZig | :) |
| 21:33:58 | Patlabor221 | what's so difrent about our wathcs from your watches? |
| 21:34:03 | Widget | Yes, it's really simple. 0.8 NZ hours tot he American hours. |
| 21:34:09 | BZig | ;) |
| 21:34:10 | Widget | The. |
| 21:34:19 | BZig | ha, a typo from widget |
| 21:34:20 | Widget | The further to the poles you go, the less the year. |
| 21:34:42 | BZig | I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not |
| 21:34:43 | Widget | So Patlabor221 is 30 in American years, but probably 40 or so in Canadian years. |
| 21:34:44 | Patlabor221 | ???? |
| 21:34:52 | Widget | Theoretically, if I live in the south pole, I can live forever. |
| 21:34:59 | BZig | Yes |
| 21:35:00 | Patlabor221 | that makes no sese |
| 21:35:15 | Patlabor221 | years are based on the planet moving |
| 21:35:15 | BZig | ;) |
| 21:35:18 | Patlabor221 | not the spin |
| 21:35:19 | Widget | You're right. |
| 21:35:24 | BZig | Thtas what they want you to think |
| 21:35:28 | Widget | My logic has holes large enough to drive a house through. |
| 21:35:34 | BZig | :) |
| 21:35:38 | Widget | I'll just have to be careful where on the south pole I build my house. |
| 21:35:45 | BZig | lol |
| 21:35:52 | Patlabor221 | you logic has holes so large it's rare to see the actualy logic |
| 21:36:18 | BZig | ! |
| 21:36:36 | BZig | Pat: The shadow government has gotten to you |
| 21:36:51 | Widget | And it has Chinese numbers along the side! |
| 21:37:06 | Patlabor221 | no I, they work for me |
| 21:37:07 | BZig | uh |
| 21:37:14 | BZig | Do the chinese use a different number set? |
| 21:37:26 | Widget | They write numbers differently. |
| 21:37:28 | BZig | I thought math was universal |
| 21:37:37 | Widget | And they pronounce it differently too. Yi, er, san sze... |
| 21:37:42 | BZig | pff |
| 21:37:47 | BZig | Are you sure the numbers are different?! |
| 21:37:53 | Widget | Yes, I can read Chinese. :P |
| 21:38:01 | BZig | ugh |
| 21:38:02 | Widget | Pfft. |
| 21:38:06 | BZig | I can read English |
| 21:38:10 | BZig | and some French |
| 21:38:14 | BZig | and thats it |
| 21:38:16 | Patlabor221 | so can i !!! |
| 21:38:29 | Patlabor221 | but I can only write bad engilsh |
| 21:38:30 | BZig | Linguistics aren't my best |
| 21:38:41 | BZig | yes, its a skill we share |
| 21:39:08 | Widget | It's an American make called "fossil". |
| 21:39:15 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 21:39:17 | Widget | The watches are no different from NZ watches. :P |
| 21:39:18 | Patlabor221 | dencet watches |
| 21:39:21 | Widget | Though I don't know if we make any. |
| 21:39:27 | BZig | uh |
| 21:39:29 | BZig | Does it matter? |
| 21:39:38 | BZig | You want a portable atomic clock ? :) |
| 21:39:39 | Patlabor221 | ohh don't worry we didn't make that one eather |
| 21:39:41 | Patlabor221 | we just sell it |
| 21:40:00 | BZig | ah |
| 21:40:01 | Patlabor221 | wonders if his new speakers go to 11 |
| 21:40:11 | BZig | 11? |
| 21:40:15 | Patlabor221 | 11 |
| 21:40:28 | Widget | Oooooooh. |
| 21:40:34 | BZig | Pump it up |
| 21:40:36 | Widget | I have to hold my speakers up to my ear to hear anything. |
| 21:41:03 | BZig | Hrm |
| 21:41:12 | BZig | Does water spin backwards in NZ? |
| 21:41:14 | Patlabor221 | only one way to test a sub woofer.... "The Bridge of Khazad Dum" |
| 21:41:21 | BZig | I mean "Down under" |
| 21:41:28 | Widget | BZig: Nope, only in the northern hemisphere. |
| 21:41:39 | Widget | Patlabor221: Ooh, send me it! |
| 21:41:44 | BZig | So then it does go the other way... |
| 21:42:04 | Widget | is sad because Agassi beat Hewitt. |
| 21:42:06 | Widget | Pfft. |
| 21:42:09 | BZig | Yep |
| 21:42:09 | Widget | Home crowd advantage. |
| 21:42:12 | BZig | The way it should be. |
| 21:42:19 | Widget | Pffffffffft. |
| 21:42:38 | BZig | uh |
| 21:42:48 | BZig | What do you call someone from New Zealand? |
| 21:42:55 | BZig | e.g. Canada -> Canadian |
| 21:43:10 | Widget | New Zealander, or more informally, "Kiwi". |
| 21:43:18 | BZig | no |
| 21:43:24 | BZig | I am Canadian |
| 21:43:26 | BZig | you say what? |
| 21:43:34 | Widget | I'm a New Zealander. |
| 21:43:34 | BZig | I am _a_ New Zealander? |
| 21:43:37 | Widget | Yes. |
| 21:43:45 | BZig | :) |
| 21:43:45 | Widget | "I AM CANADIAN!!!!" Like the advert? |
| 21:43:51 | BZig | Yes |
| 21:43:53 | Widget | Hm... they should rename Canada to Canadia. |
| 21:43:59 | Widget | Or else call Canadians Canadans. |
| 21:44:02 | BZig | Selling alcohol with patriotism works |
| 21:44:07 | BZig | Canucks |
| 21:44:18 | BZig | hahah |
| 21:44:24 | BZig | Canada -> Canucks |
| 21:44:30 | BZig | USA -> Yanks |
| 21:44:33 | Widget | New Zealand -> Kiwis |
| 21:44:36 | BZig | Lebanese -> Terrorists |
| 21:44:44 | Widget | Pfft. |
| 21:44:44 | nuum | canada owns. |
| 21:44:45 | BZig | zing |
| 21:44:50 | BZig | yes |
| 21:44:50 | Widget | Canada owns what? |
| 21:44:53 | Widget | Lots of ice? |
| 21:44:54 | BZig | But only the heartland |
| 21:44:57 | nuum | proton: how would i got about allowing users to select from multiple different radars in flag? |
| 21:45:10 | Widget | Saskatchewan? |
| 21:45:12 | Widget | Manitoba? |
| 21:45:13 | Widget | Alberta? |
| 21:45:19 | nuum | Widget: how do you feel about the senate recommending legalization of pot? |
| 21:45:22 | Widget | (spelling?) |
| 21:45:27 | BZig | uh |
| 21:45:35 | BZig | Didn't the senator backtrack on that one |
| 21:45:48 | Widget | nuum: What senate? |
| 21:46:01 | nuum | Widget: you are canadian? |
| 21:46:10 | Widget | nuum: Nope. |
| 21:46:15 | nuum | well then fuck off |
| 21:46:22 | BZig | ?? |
| 21:46:24 | Widget | Pfft. |
| 21:46:37 | BZig | legalize it |
| 21:46:38 | nuum | oh, zig is cdn |
| 21:46:42 | BZig | then mexico would collapse |
| 21:46:42 | nuum | yeah yeah |
| 21:46:54 | Widget | Yes, I can't think why the US doesn't legalise it. |
| 21:46:54 | nuum | BZig: here in bc the second largest industry is pot. |
| 21:46:57 | Widget | They're so annoying. |
| 21:47:03 | BZig | pff |
| 21:47:16 | Widget | Canada should do it first and set an example. |
| 21:47:18 | nuum | the us phears marijuana and couldn't, doesn't want to, and will never legalize marijuana. |
| 21:47:22 | Widget | Just like in World War II, or with metric. |
| 21:47:29 | BZig | yep |
| 21:47:37 | BZig | When did NZ declare war in WW2? |
| 21:47:40 | nuum | but, you are part of the commonwealth widget, what do you think? |
| 21:47:53 | Widget | BZig: We weren't really independent then. |
| 21:47:56 | nuum | probably nz followed australia, britain, cdn? |
| 21:48:01 | Widget | nuum: About? |
| 21:48:07 | BZig | It wasn't all at the same time |
| 21:48:07 | nuum | declaring war on germany. |
| 21:48:09 | BZig | Liar |
| 21:48:10 | Widget | Yes, Kiwis fought at El-Alamein. |
| 21:48:12 | BZig | you were independant |
| 21:48:24 | Widget | BZig: We became independent in 1945. |
| 21:48:28 | BZig | uh |
| 21:48:29 | Widget | BZig: We were like a dominion before. |
| 21:48:33 | BZig | well |
| 21:48:44 | BZig | Its still the Dominion of Canada legally i think |
| 21:48:55 | Widget | But we weren't really independent. |
| 21:49:03 | BZig | I thought in the 1920's and 30's all of the commonwealth was "let go" |
| 21:49:06 | BZig | Yes |
| 21:49:13 | BZig | but did you have to follow British foreign policy? |
| 21:49:32 | Widget | Pretty much. |
| 21:49:41 | BZig | No then |
| 21:49:45 | nuum | Widget: where you at in nz? |
| 21:49:55 | Widget | nuum: Invercargill. |
| 21:50:15 | nuum | Widget: what kinda beer do you have there? i'm drinking shiraz tonite... |
| 21:50:22 | Patlabor221 | FOSTERS! |
| 21:50:24 | nuum | i hear its good stuff, mined in aus, nz. |
| 21:50:28 | Widget | nuum: Pfft. I'm not old enough to drink alcohol. |
| 21:50:29 | Patlabor221 | that's what it says on the map |
| 21:50:40 | nuum | Widget: you take that from your gov't? |
| 21:50:47 | BZig | yes |
| 21:50:49 | nuum | Widget: what is the legal age? |
| 21:50:49 | Widget | nuum: Yes. |
| 21:50:52 | Widget | nuum: 18. |
| 21:51:19 | Widget | It's not admirable to break the law unless you go to a police office and do it in front of them knowing you'll be arrested. Then it's civil disobedience. |
| 21:51:37 | BZig | the law is in place for a reason |
| 21:51:39 | BZig | to be broken |
| 21:51:45 | nuum | hear, hear! |
| 21:51:52 | BZig | You don't have to conform to your dictators standards |
| 21:51:54 | nuum | BZig: you in toronto? |
| 21:51:59 | BZig | Ott |
| 21:52:05 | BZig | Where decisions are made |
| 21:52:12 | nuum | well, some... |
| 21:52:16 | nuum | like kyoto... |
| 21:52:21 | BZig | yeah |
| 21:52:26 | BZig | Alberta is blocking it, huh |
| 21:52:38 | Widget | Will they secede? |
| 21:52:39 | mandy | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 21:52:42 | Widget | Someone told me they will. :) |
| 21:52:43 | mandy | bleh |
| 21:52:47 | nuum | ab is such a way off province. |
| 21:52:53 | BZig | yep |
| 21:52:59 | BZig | You cant secede |
| 21:53:06 | BZig | Jean Chretien will attack :) |
| 21:53:08 | nuum | as soon as you get across the rockies it goes all funny |
| 21:53:21 | mandy | sits on the bean bag |
| 21:53:24 | BZig | was there a year ago |
| 21:53:27 | mandy | hehehe |
| 21:53:31 | BZig | Vancouver is owned by asians |
| 21:53:38 | nuum | they just have a load of oil and without it the place is flat. |
| 21:53:44 | nuum | vancouver is such a beautiful city. |
| 21:53:54 | nuum | i think it sits near the top in the world... |
| 21:53:56 | BZig | I preferred victoria |
| 21:53:58 | Widget | Canada must be such a cool place. |
| 21:54:03 | mandy | neener |
| 21:54:08 | nuum | victoria i haven't been to, got a couple of buds there... |
| 21:54:08 | mandy | nuumer |
| 21:54:08 | BZig | :) Its a big place |
| 21:54:11 | iLLf8d | just my account name |
| 21:54:12 | mandy | lol |
| 21:54:22 | mandy | yeah |
| 21:54:25 | iLLf8d | man my xchat client on my other machine is hosed |
| 21:54:31 | iLLf8d | this xchat text thing sucks too huh |
| 21:54:35 | iLLf8d | gotta stop using this |
| 21:54:41 | mandy | lol |
| 21:54:58 | iLLf8d | hmm /me installs bx or epic |
| 21:54:59 | iLLf8d | brb |
| 21:55:06 | BZig | Is it true the NZ cabinet is run by sheep? |
| 21:55:19 | mandy | ya know when that guy starts talken he never stops |
| 21:55:19 | Widget | No, but they're heavily financed by them. |
| 21:55:21 | nuum | bwahahahaha |
| 21:55:27 | BZig | :) |
| 21:55:35 | mandy | ohwell |
| 21:55:38 | nuum | how big is nz? |
| 21:55:42 | nuum | like population.. |
| 21:55:47 | Widget | Um.... 3.5 million? |
| 21:55:47 | BZig | wait |
| 21:55:51 | BZig | doh |
| 21:55:55 | BZig | Wanted to guess :( |
| 21:56:02 | BZig | We have 30 mil |
| 21:56:05 | BZig | and about 2 soldiers |
| 21:56:08 | Widget | Hm. |
| 21:56:11 | Widget | We have about .2. |
| 21:56:23 | Widget | And .05 during week-ends. |
| 21:56:28 | BZig | ;) |
| 21:56:38 | Patlabor221 | it's done widget |
| 21:56:46 | Widget | Patlabor221: Ja. |
| 21:56:53 | Patlabor221 | it makes with the bass |
| 21:56:55 | Widget | Patlabor221: Thanks. :) |
| 21:57:07 | Widget | Lord of the Rings -- Kiwi film. :) |
| 21:57:14 | Patlabor221 | that it is |
| 21:57:18 | BZig | Yeah |
| 21:57:19 | Widget | I have a friend who was an extra for it. |
| 21:57:23 | BZig | I saw the special features DVD |
| 21:57:24 | nuum | BZig: 2 soldiers, one of which the americans will sacrifice to the war gods in iraq... |
| 21:57:28 | Patlabor221 | I am soo glad they didn't mess it up |
| 21:57:31 | BZig | Yep |
| 21:57:36 | BZig | We're not going to Iraq |
| 21:57:38 | iLLf8d | much better |
| 21:57:39 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 21:57:45 | iLLf8d | epic4 with splitfire |
| 21:57:46 | Widget | All those orcs? Really well-costumed sheep. |
| 21:57:49 | iLLf8d | seems to work well |
| 21:57:56 | Patlabor221 | well that and CG |
| 21:57:58 | BZig | And i thought it was computer-magic |
| 21:57:59 | nuum | no one better be going to iraq. |
| 21:58:04 | BZig | uh |
| 21:58:06 | BZig | Iraq is done |
| 21:58:12 | BZig | its time has come for reality to set it |
| 21:58:13 | BZig | in |
| 21:58:45 | BZig | You don't support invasion of Iraq nuum? |
| 21:58:49 | nuum | certainly not. |
| 21:58:55 | BZig | Why |
| 21:58:59 | nuum | apparently 45% of cdn's do tho. |
| 21:59:04 | BZig | They are a peace loving country? |
| 21:59:09 | BZig | Hugging bunnies and stuff? |
| 21:59:28 | nuum | we'll let you control a bztank remote from ottawa. |
| 21:59:36 | nuum | you could own ;) |
| 21:59:40 | BZig | :) |
| 21:59:44 | BZig | Only if i get 10 shots |
| 21:59:48 | BZig | and jumping and flags |
| 22:00:12 | Widget | Not to mention rico. |
| 22:00:22 | nuum | rico a must. |
| 22:00:26 | BZig | You have to admit though that the risk of inaction is higher than the risk of action (who said that?), for the US at least |
| 22:00:40 | nuum | um |
| 22:00:54 | Widget | Well, I wish the UK wouldn't join in. |
| 22:00:58 | nuum | inaction? how bout stop giving 3billion us dollars to israel. |
| 22:01:07 | BZig | Israel is complicated |
| 22:01:19 | BZig | the Jews do need a homeland |
| 22:01:34 | Patlabor221 | hell I don't have a homeland why do they need one? |
| 22:01:50 | nuum | they don't need a well funded army backed by religious zealotry. |
| 22:01:52 | BZig | Because you didnt have 6 million of your population killed in the holocaust |
| 22:01:56 | Patlabor221 | simpley based on there regligous prefrence |
| 22:01:58 | BZig | Yes they do |
| 22:02:01 | BZig | for their own protection |
| 22:02:11 | Widget | So? Getting your own country isn't any guarantee of protection. |
| 22:02:15 | nuum | BZig: what kind of society does that encourage? |
| 22:02:24 | BZig | ... |
| 22:02:29 | BZig | and if israel layed down its weapons? |
| 22:02:35 | BZig | You doubt the arabs would stop? |
| 22:02:45 | Patlabor221 | humans wont stop killing, we are too good at it |
| 22:02:51 | Widget | Hm.... Israel should get a village somewhere in Europe as reparations and then join the European Union. :) |
| 22:02:52 | BZig | Good quote |
| 22:03:02 | Widget | Patlabor221: What's that, Larry Niven? |
| 22:03:05 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:03:12 | BZig | Its a really complicated situation |
| 22:03:19 | BZig | When you bring in the religious beliefs |
| 22:03:24 | BZig | I mean, its THERE land |
| 22:03:31 | nuum | no, it is not their land. |
| 22:03:32 | Patlabor221 | The kizin found ouy why the moneky boys made war no more... they were soo very good at it. |
| 22:03:32 | Widget | is the only girl in her whole school who reads science fiction. |
| 22:03:41 | nuum | omg widget is a gurl? |
| 22:03:48 | BZig | ha |
| 22:04:00 | Patlabor221 | see I told you all |
| 22:04:03 | BZig | Did you wiretap everyone Widget? |
| 22:04:21 | iLLf8d | anyone know if epic can do windows? |
| 22:04:53 | Patlabor221 | epic? |
| 22:05:03 | iLLf8d | nm |
| 22:05:05 | iLLf8d | epic4 |
| 22:05:12 | iLLf8d | its a text chat like bitchx |
| 22:05:17 | iLLf8d | I found a page on it finally heh |
| 22:05:45 | Widget | BZig: !?!? |
| 22:05:59 | BZig | illf8d, you play(ed) Diablo II? |
| 22:06:03 | paul | Widget: you're under 18? |
| 22:06:09 | Patlabor221 | jpablo: I think the DCC stalled |
| 22:06:16 | BZig | Widget: How do you know no other girl in your school reads sci-fi |
| 22:06:22 | Patlabor221 | wiget is a 15 year old super genius |
| 22:06:27 | paul | Widget: how the hell did you manage to fit those encyclopeadias into your head in less than 18 years? |
| 22:06:28 | Widget | paul: Yes. bzdoug and jolly's age. :P |
| 22:06:35 | iLLf8d | me no |
| 22:06:36 | paul | Widget: wow... |
| 22:06:42 | BZig | Uh |
| 22:06:45 | iLLf8d | I'd like to try under winex tho |
| 22:06:52 | iLLf8d | a friend of mine has it running |
| 22:06:55 | Widget | BZig: Safe assumption? |
| 22:07:00 | Patlabor221 | I'm betting there was crobar involoved |
| 22:07:01 | jpablo | Patlabor221: yeah, i need my bandwidh, setup dccautoget and i i'll send it later. |
| 22:07:05 | BZig | ah |
| 22:07:05 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 22:07:09 | BZig | Dont be a statistician |
| 22:07:17 | BZig | :) |
| 22:07:19 | Patlabor221 | then I am off ot install a new card |
| 22:07:22 | Widget | Ew... statistics. |
| 22:07:27 | BZig | Some girls must read sci-fi |
| 22:07:27 | Widget | Statisticians are worse liars than me. |
| 22:07:32 | paul | BZig: "You have to admit though that the risk of inaction is higher than the risk of action (who said that?), for the US at least" |
| 22:07:38 | paul | justify that. |
| 22:07:40 | BZig | Yep |
| 22:07:41 | nuum | BZig: you do stat? |
| 22:07:45 | BZig | no |
| 22:07:50 | BZig | Justify that? |
| 22:08:10 | BZig | If saddam got weapons of mass destructions, i _think_ he would either use them or leak them to terrorists |
| 22:08:12 | paul | BZig: opinion is worth nothing if you cant provide argument for it. |
| 22:08:16 | BZig | He's backed into a corner |
| 22:08:21 | Widget | iLLf8d: Did you draw that Calvin and Hobbes picture? |
| 22:08:23 | nuum | you can't base arguments off what people might do. |
| 22:08:29 | paul | BZig: saddam *already* has weapons of mass destruction. |
| 22:08:34 | Widget | Yes, people might pirate music with KaZaA. |
| 22:08:34 | BZig | ICBMs? |
| 22:08:40 | Widget | Therefore we must shut down KaZaA at once. |
| 22:08:46 | BZig | They do |
| 22:08:47 | BZig | I do |
| 22:08:49 | paul | BZig: the absolute worst thing to do is go and try topple him. |
| 22:08:54 | Widget | People may pirate DVDs with DeCSS. |
| 22:08:56 | BZig | ? |
| 22:09:03 | BZig | So just let him grow? |
| 22:09:05 | Widget | Therefore the US's DMCA is an example for everyone. |
| 22:09:13 | BZig | Why is he developing weapons of mass destruction |
| 22:09:20 | BZig | To mutate frogs? |
| 22:09:20 | paul | if you're a dictator, but a shrewd one, you wont use those weapons against the west unless you're absolutely backed into a corner and you've nothing to lose. |
| 22:09:32 | paul | that's what we're going to do if we attack him in order to topple him. |
| 22:09:33 | BZig | Shrewd? |
| 22:09:46 | BZig | Why is he making more weapons than? |
| 22:09:48 | paul | if we leave him alone, well he's a sick man - nature will take care of him within 10 years. |
| 22:09:55 | Widget | BZig: Why is China? |
| 22:09:56 | BZig | And his succesor? |
| 22:09:58 | paul | BZig: he has chemical weapons. |
| 22:10:07 | BZig | So why does he want more? |
| 22:10:31 | paul | his succesor is a future problem - and one we may have influence in. |
| 22:10:38 | BZig | _may_ |
| 22:10:49 | BZig | you've got 300 mil riding on that |
| 22:10:54 | paul | ? |
| 22:11:00 | BZig | US pop. |
| 22:11:00 | Widget | BZig: China is building more nuclear weapons. Why don't you try to get rid of China? |
| 22:11:08 | BZig | What if his sucessor is an Islamic militant |
| 22:11:17 | BZig | because China is quiet |
| 22:11:25 | BZig | and doesn't yell "Death to America" |
| 22:11:40 | paul | what's wrong with islamic militants? |
| 22:11:41 | BZig | Islamic militants would use nukes on the US (or Israel) if they had them, do we agree? |
| 22:11:45 | Widget | Well, hardly quiet. They invaded Tibet. |
| 22:11:46 | paul | no i dont agree. |
| 22:11:52 | BZig | no? |
| 22:11:53 | Widget | And they yell "Death to Taiwan!" |
| 22:11:54 | BZig | No? |
| 22:11:59 | BZig | dumb |
| 22:12:03 | BZig | Sept 11 taught you nothing |
| 22:12:19 | BZig | They used planes to kill americans |
| 22:12:25 | BZig | They sacrificed themselves |
| 22:12:30 | BZig | yet you doubt they would use nukes |
| 22:12:35 | paul | Iran is a country controlled by islamic militants, and its doing quite nicely now. |
| 22:12:37 | BZig | Allah will bring them to heaven if they nuke the US |
| 22:12:42 | paul | those were terrorists. |
| 22:12:48 | BZig | Exactly |
| 22:12:49 | Widget | BZig: Should the US then invade Pakistan and India? |
| 22:12:56 | BZig | No |
| 22:13:03 | Widget | Why not? |
| 22:13:05 | paul | pakistan is full of islamic "militants" |
| 22:13:12 | BZig | Paul: yes |
| 22:13:14 | Widget | Both countries have several militants. |
| 22:13:18 | BZig | Hrm |
| 22:13:21 | Widget | Which may gain power in a short amount of time. |
| 22:13:27 | BZig | but Pakistan is reigning in the militants |
| 22:13:29 | paul | BZig: ever wonder why these islamic militants always seem to have an axe to grind with the US? |
| 22:13:32 | Widget | For now. |
| 22:13:33 | BZig | and they already have Nukes |
| 22:13:35 | Widget | As is Iraq. |
| 22:13:39 | BZig | no |
| 22:13:47 | BZig | I don't think they are |
| 22:13:56 | Widget | Well, Pakistan did provide funding to Islamic militants. |
| 22:13:57 | paul | why not? |
| 22:14:01 | BZig | did |
| 22:14:07 | BZig | They are probably right now |
| 22:14:08 | Widget | And no one knows if they are any more. |
| 22:14:12 | BZig | to stop US assault |
| 22:14:16 | paul | they've certainly got the brains to build a bomb. |
| 22:14:24 | BZig | but not the materials |
| 22:14:26 | Widget | So why doesn't anyone talk of invading India or Pakistan? |
| 22:14:34 | BZig | because they already have nukes |
| 22:14:37 | Widget | The Pakistani government could be toppled at any time. |
| 22:14:40 | BZig | uh |
| 22:14:45 | BZig | Not without vollying nukes at us |
| 22:14:49 | BZig | US |
| 22:14:51 | Widget | So? Hussein already has weapons of mass destruction. |
| 22:14:56 | BZig | but no ICBMs |
| 22:15:00 | paul | BZig: how do you know - Iraq is a pretty big country, i'll bet there's plenty of places they can mine for ore. |
| 22:15:07 | BZig | fafdsa |
| 22:15:13 | Widget | asdfdsa |
| 22:15:14 | BZig | no |
| 22:15:21 | paul | BZig: pakistan is a notoriously unstable country wrt internal politics. |
| 22:15:27 | BZig | You dont find weapon grade Plutonium or Uranium in just any cave |
| 22:15:29 | paul | BZig: its ruled by the military at the moment! |
| 22:15:34 | BZig | I know |
| 22:15:43 | paul | BZig: no you dont. but you refine it from ore. |
| 22:15:49 | BZig | Aren't they going to have elections soon? |
| 22:16:03 | Widget | OK. So if Hussein managed to develop nuclear weapons, the US will leave him alone? |
| 22:16:09 | paul | Widget: :) |
| 22:16:21 | BZig | No |
| 22:16:23 | Widget | This must be why he's trying so hard to develop them! |
| 22:16:27 | Widget | To fend off the Americans! |
| 22:16:27 | BZig | They have the chance to stop him now |
| 22:16:38 | paul | BZig: and so? the military might still topple any government - as they did with bhutto. |
| 22:16:39 | BZig | and they should take it |
| 22:16:49 | paul | what chance? |
| 22:16:51 | BZig | or Islamic militants might take the government |
| 22:17:19 | BZig | These people will use any weapon they can to destroy the US |
| 22:17:21 | paul | the white house is full of advisers from the previous bush administration, son of the guy who didnt topple saddam before. |
| 22:17:25 | BZig | They are willing to die for it |
| 22:17:26 | paul | it seems you just revenge. |
| 22:17:33 | BZig | But yet you would allow them to get nukes |
| 22:17:47 | paul | BZig: *WHY* do they feel so strongly about the USA!!! |
| 22:17:54 | BZig | the whole situation is an echo of the 30's |
| 22:17:58 | paul | no its not. |
| 22:18:02 | BZig | Germany is unhappy with Versailles |
| 22:18:11 | Widget | The next government of Pakistan might be a militant islamic government. Yet you allow them to keep their nuclear weapons. |
| 22:18:11 | BZig | they disobey it and build military |
| 22:18:16 | paul | if you say that then you show you dont know about 1930s |
| 22:18:26 | BZig | What if in 1933 the allies had stopped the rebuilding of the German military |
| 22:18:30 | BZig | could of averted WW2 |
| 22:18:38 | paul | hmm.. |
| 22:18:44 | BZig | They had the chance |
| 22:18:50 | paul | in 1933 germany was in absolute economic ruin iirc. |
| 22:18:51 | BZig | they let it go, and 50 mil people died |
| 22:19:11 | BZig | You know what i mean |
| 22:19:15 | paul | no i dont. |
| 22:19:16 | BZig | when Hitler was rebuilding the Reich |
| 22:19:28 | paul | what were the allies going to do? |
| 22:19:29 | BZig | The allies could of enforced the Versailled military terms |
| 22:19:30 | BZig | but they didnt |
| 22:19:32 | BZig | Uh |
| 22:19:36 | paul | invade because he was rebuilding germany? |
| 22:19:39 | BZig | Like what weapons inspectors in Iraq do now |
| 22:19:41 | BZig | No |
| 22:19:49 | BZig | Just stop them from rebuilding the military |
| 22:19:51 | Widget | Most people agree that the lesson to be learned from Versailles was that Germany should not have been pressed with such terms. |
| 22:19:58 | BZig | True |
| 22:20:02 | paul | The difference here is that Iraq is not powerful. |
| 22:20:03 | Widget | So would you suggest lifting the embargo on Iraq..... |
| 22:20:06 | BZig | But you can't go back in time |
| 22:20:12 | Widget | And getting rid of the no-fly zones? |
| 22:20:16 | Widget | And giving them massive aid? |
| 22:20:18 | BZig | I don't know much about the embargo or no-fly zones |
| 22:20:32 | BZig | I seriously don't know to much about this, just stating my opinion/arguments |
| 22:20:36 | paul | Germany was a powerful industrial nation despite its economic problems - which is what allowed it to rebuild so quickly. |
| 22:20:36 | Widget | After all, lifting the conditions of Versailled in 1933 might have averted WWII. |
| 22:20:43 | paul | exactly. |
| 22:20:47 | Widget | paul: With a well-educated populace. |
| 22:20:48 | paul | it was versailles that cause WWII |
| 22:20:53 | paul | Widget: yes |
| 22:21:01 | Widget | That's how Israel was so successful. |
| 22:21:07 | paul | yes. |
| 22:21:12 | Widget | And how Hebrew was made the official language so successfully. |
| 22:21:12 | BZig | ? |
| 22:21:22 | paul | yep. |
| 22:21:32 | BZig | Okay |
| 22:21:36 | BZig | but you can't go back in time |
| 22:21:45 | Widget | But you can lift the embargo now. |
| 22:21:47 | Widget | And give Iraq aid. |
| 22:21:49 | BZig | Its 1933 (35 maybe) and Hitler is rebuilding the reich, what do you do |
| 22:21:49 | paul | Though, despite all the troubles the jewish may have had in the past, i have to say i am disgusted by the present israeli regime. |
| 22:21:51 | BZig | You are Britain |
| 22:21:52 | Widget | And remove the no-fly zones. |
| 22:21:55 | BZig | No |
| 22:21:56 | BZig | no |
| 22:22:02 | BZig | Its 1933 and you are Britain, what do you do |
| 22:22:03 | Patlabor221 | wheee 5 speakers :) |
| 22:22:11 | Widget | Lift the Versailles conditions. |
| 22:22:18 | paul | BZig: you couldnt have stopped him at that time. |
| 22:22:21 | BZig | History repeats itself.. |
| 22:22:25 | BZig | EXACTLY |
| 22:22:27 | Widget | Perhaps giving Germany aid would have been out of the question. |
| 22:22:29 | BZig | at that time |
| 22:22:30 | paul | BZig: Britain was not powerful enough to stop germany. |
| 22:22:32 | Widget | Since it was the depression. |
| 22:22:35 | BZig | So you suggest changing what happened before |
| 22:22:43 | BZig | but the US is already past that point with Iraq |
| 22:22:47 | BZig | Its 1933 all over again |
| 22:22:54 | Widget | BZig: At that time, even if the UK had attacked Germany, it wouldn't have helped. |
| 22:23:03 | paul | BZig: the time to have stopped WWII was before the allies allowed Germany to fall into the depths of economic ruin. |
| 22:23:04 | BZig | Not attack |
| 22:23:10 | BZig | just enforece military terms of Versailled |
| 22:23:11 | BZig | s |
| 22:23:16 | BZig | Yes |
| 22:23:17 | Widget | BZig: That would have been stupid. |
| 22:23:28 | BZig | So you suggest dropping the Versailles? |
| 22:23:35 | paul | BTW: remember chamberlain and his piece of paper? |
| 22:23:36 | Widget | BZig: Would Hitler have agreed if the British gave him an ultimatum? Probably not, since Germany was already stronger than the UK. |
| 22:23:39 | BZig | You think Hitlers ideology would of come crashing down? |
| 22:23:44 | Widget | Probably. |
| 22:23:46 | BZig | Mein Kampf would of stopped being published? |
| 22:23:46 | paul | though perhaps he was naive, he did buy britain time. |
| 22:23:47 | Widget | It thrived in economic chaos. |
| 22:23:54 | BZig | The jews would of been allowed to live in peace? |
| 22:23:59 | Widget | After all, Hitler eliminated unemployment in Germany. |
| 22:24:07 | Widget | Whereas in the UK, classical economics still applied. |
| 22:24:08 | paul | BZig: go and read up on how germany was in the early 1930s |
| 22:24:18 | BZig | I know enough |
| 22:24:18 | paul | there was a civil war, there were fears the commies would take over. |
| 22:24:23 | BZig | ah |
| 22:24:24 | Widget | BZig: Dictators thrive in poor countries. |
| 22:24:28 | paul | exactly. |
| 22:24:31 | BZig | .. |
| 22:24:32 | BZig | Okay |
| 22:24:34 | BZig | how about this |
| 22:24:42 | paul | but hey - lets bomb the ferk out of them... |
| 22:24:43 | BZig | Its 1936, and hitler has some armies but you can still stop him |
| 22:24:50 | Widget | Giving Germany money at that time was out of the question, but giving money to Iraq isn't. |
| 22:24:51 | Widget | Wait.... |
| 22:24:54 | BZig | The whole country is following his ideology |
| 22:24:56 | Widget | Wasn't WWII declared in 1936? |
| 22:24:56 | BZig | Achtung Juden, you die now |
| 22:25:00 | BZig | 1939 |
| 22:25:02 | paul | make them hateful and looking for vengeance. |
| 22:25:05 | BZig | Sept 1 invaded poland |
| 22:25:09 | Widget | Oh, yes. |
| 22:25:16 | paul | WWII was decalred in 1939. |
| 22:25:20 | BZig | Okay |
| 22:25:23 | BZig | Back to my point |
| 22:25:30 | BZig | Its 1936 and all of Germany follows Hitler |
| 22:25:32 | BZig | i think |
| 22:25:34 | Widget | "I am speaking to you from 10 Downing street" |
| 22:25:37 | BZig | but his military can still be stopped |
| 22:25:44 | BZig | What do you do |
| 22:25:52 | Widget | BZig: it couldn't be stopped in 1936. |
| 22:25:55 | paul | BZig: fascism was rife /across/ all of europe at that time btw |
| 22:25:55 | BZig | He has some army, you will shed blood, but he can be stopped |
| 22:26:04 | BZig | okay |
| 22:26:05 | paul | even in ireland we had brownshirts. |
| 22:26:07 | BZig | 1935 then |
| 22:26:27 | BZig | The point in time at which Germany followed Hitler but his army could still be stopped |
| 22:26:30 | BZig | there was a point |
| 22:26:36 | BZig | but the allies failed to act |
| 22:26:37 | paul | BZig: you;re making the same mistake as everyone back in the 30s did. |
| 22:26:42 | BZig | They tried to negotiation and concede |
| 22:26:45 | paul | thinking that militarism is the only way to solve problems. |
| 22:26:45 | BZig | no |
| 22:26:48 | BZig | They didnt stop Germany |
| 22:26:52 | BZig | They de-militarized |
| 22:27:02 | BZig | Im trying to compare this with Iraq now |
| 22:27:05 | BZig | thats the whole point |
| 22:27:10 | BZig | The US can stop IRaq now |
| 22:27:15 | BZig | They will shed blood, but it can be done |
| 22:27:23 | paul | *sigh* there was a military arms-race in the late 1930s (just as before WWI - but that was even bigger) |
| 22:27:31 | BZig | no |
| 22:27:34 | BZig | I dont agree |
| 22:27:36 | paul | why do you need to stop iraq though? |
| 22:27:37 | paul | from what? |
| 22:27:44 | BZig | From another Sept 11 |
| 22:27:48 | BZig | THEY ARE WILLING TO DIE TO KILL AMERICANS |
| 22:27:49 | paul | hitler clearly was expanionist. |
| 22:27:54 | paul | Saddam isnt anymore. |
| 22:28:06 | BZig | No? |
| 22:28:07 | paul | How was Iraq invovled in Sept 11? |
| 22:28:09 | Widget | No. |
| 22:28:11 | paul | How was Iraq invovled in Sept 11? |
| 22:28:16 | BZig | I hear they were involved in 1995 |
| 22:28:26 | paul | in what? |
| 22:28:27 | BZig | Islamic militants are in Iraq |
| 22:28:31 | BZig | er |
| 22:28:31 | paul | ok... |
| 22:28:34 | BZig | Oklahoma i think |
| 22:28:40 | paul | now go back to my original question: |
| 22:28:48 | BZig | Fine |
| 22:28:51 | BZig | but i made my point |
| 22:28:53 | paul | why does these islamic militants have such a dislike for the USA? |
| 22:29:01 | BZig | Its irrelevant |
| 22:29:05 | Widget | BZig: Oklahoma City? |
| 22:29:08 | paul | why does these islamic militants have such a dislike for the USA? |
| 22:29:11 | BZig | the point at which their ideology can be turned is past |
| 22:29:12 | paul | its not irrelevant. |
| 22:29:14 | Widget | BZig: Um.... wasn't that Timothy McVeigh? |
| 22:29:18 | BZig | Its like 1936 in Europe |
| 22:29:18 | paul | :) |
| 22:29:24 | paul | it is very relevant. |
| 22:29:24 | BZig | You cant stop the ideology now, you cant go back in time |
| 22:29:25 | Widget | BZig: Who wasn't Muslim by any stretch of the imagination? |
| 22:29:27 | BZig | You have to deal with it |
| 22:29:32 | BZig | No |
| 22:29:41 | BZig | its irrelevant, you cant change their hatred now |
| 22:29:43 | BZig | Its too late |
| 22:29:56 | Widget | BZig: How do you know? |
| 22:30:01 | BZig | I dont |
| 22:30:03 | Widget | BZig: That's just conjecture. |
| 22:30:05 | BZig | but lots of peoples lives ride on it |
| 22:30:10 | Widget | BZig: You can't declare a war on conjecture! |
| 22:30:10 | paul | because militants once were not, once they were kids and to form their militant opinion there must be a similar but less extreme body of opinion in the general populace |
| 22:30:14 | paul | !! |
| 22:30:37 | BZig | hrm |
| 22:30:50 | BZig | The US is in a tight spot |
| 22:30:53 | Patlabor221 | widget: do you have an evil twin? |
| 22:31:01 | paul | look - best thing to do is leave saddam alone, he's sick, his time will soon be up. |
| 22:31:03 | Widget | Patlabor221: i hope not. |
| 22:31:05 | BZig | Let Iraq go - PR boost for USA in middle east, but risk Iraqi attack later on |
| 22:31:08 | Patlabor221 | ok just checking |
| 22:31:18 | BZig | The US fears Iraq, and you know it |
| 22:31:22 | paul | then push for a democratic regime (eg by helping the many /iraqi/ opponents of saddam) |
| 22:31:24 | BZig | They don't want him to have ICMBs |
| 22:31:27 | Patlabor221 | Sweeet moneky jesus, that's a large sound driver |
| 22:31:29 | BZig | oh yes |
| 22:31:31 | BZig | That would fly great |
| 22:31:39 | Patlabor221 | 54 megs |
| 22:31:41 | BZig | The US changing a regime in the middle east |
| 22:32:00 | BZig | Gah |
| 22:32:12 | BZig | The time for talk is past - someone has to die now. |
| 22:32:16 | BZig | Its too bad |
| 22:32:20 | paul | BZig: leave the guy alone - get him to submit to UN weapons inspectors again.. he'll live the rest of his days with nothing more than bluster. |
| 22:32:22 | Widget | Prove it. |
| 22:32:37 | BZig | HE doesnt submit |
| 22:32:42 | paul | BZig: you're as bad as the islamic extremeists who wish death on all americans. |
| 22:32:48 | BZig | He lets them in, and secretely produces more weapons |
| 22:32:50 | BZig | No |
| 22:32:53 | BZig | Im stating the facts |
| 22:32:58 | paul | course not - why should he - the US has said its going to attack him either way. |
| 22:33:04 | BZig | Its like 1937 or 38 |
| 22:33:06 | BZig | Just before WW2, |
| 22:33:09 | BZig | It cant be averted |
| 22:33:11 | BZig | Someone has to die |
| 22:33:13 | paul | it could not. |
| 22:33:17 | paul | go read your history books. |
| 22:33:23 | paul | britain had internal problems. |
| 22:33:31 | paul | USA was absolutely not interested in Europe. |
| 22:33:41 | BZig | Yep |
| 22:33:44 | paul | fascism and political turmoil were rife across europe. |
| 22:33:49 | Patlabor221 | well we are just for the coffie and stuff |
| 22:33:50 | paul | germany was the power. |
| 22:33:53 | BZig | Expecially in Germany |
| 22:33:54 | paul | no one to stop it. |
| 22:33:54 | BZig | yes |
| 22:33:58 | BZig | Someone had to die |
| 22:34:03 | BZig | you made my point |
| 22:34:04 | Widget | I am speaking to from the Cabinet room at 10 Downing Street. This morning, the British ambassador in Berlin.... blahblah |
| 22:34:08 | paul | BZig: look you fuckwit... |
| 22:34:14 | BZig | Calm down |
| 22:34:16 | paul | war is not a nice thing. |
| 22:34:21 | BZig | I realize that |
| 22:34:26 | paul | war should be avoided at all costs. |
| 22:34:27 | BZig | but at some point it is going to happen |
| 22:34:32 | BZig | (#%A)#$ |
| 22:34:35 | paul | no it does not have to. |
| 22:34:37 | BZig | THE PRICE OF INACTION..... |
| 22:34:41 | Patlabor221 | unforntonatly the world does not allways go the "nice way" |
| 22:34:49 | paul | not allways no. |
| 22:34:59 | Patlabor221 | no not allways |
| 22:34:59 | BZig | Saddams possible successor could be Hitler-on-crack |
| 22:35:02 | Patlabor221 | just usualy |
| 22:35:09 | paul | BZig: so lets find out. |
| 22:35:14 | Widget | BZig: Still conjecture. |
| 22:35:15 | BZig | Thats a big risk |
| 22:35:20 | Widget | BZig: You can't fight a war on conjecture. |
| 22:35:21 | BZig | Price of inaction... |
| 22:35:24 | captain_proton | bwahahahaha |
| 22:35:29 | captain_proton | fj33r the dormitorium :) |
| 22:35:32 | BZig | Arghhh |
| 22:35:38 | paul | goes for smoke to calm down. |
| 22:35:47 | BZig | Paul: I'm just a dumb kid :) |
| 22:35:54 | Patlabor221 | you 2 go argue in #blowupstuffornot |
| 22:36:01 | paul | BZig: apologies for swearing at you.. |
| 22:36:05 | BZig | But |
| 22:36:08 | paul | BZig: i'm just an old idiot :) |
| 22:36:10 | paul | is away: I'm busy |
| 22:36:15 | BZig | A lot of smart people in the US must share my view |
| 22:36:34 | BZig | The US doesnt do something this big for no reason. |
| 22:36:37 | BZig | Someone must of thought hard about it. |
| 22:36:38 | Patlabor221 | humans in groups are stupid |
| 22:36:54 | BZig | :) |
| 22:36:58 | BZig | Patlabor brings reality back |
| 22:36:59 | captain_proton | you will all scream with terror when the dormitorium is complete |
| 22:37:04 | Widget | BZig: The US does plenty of stuff for no good reason. |
| 22:37:11 | BZig | Argh widget |
| 22:37:16 | Patlabor221 | yeah like Birteny spears |
| 22:37:29 | BZig | My point is a lot of smart people with plenty of info must share my view |
| 22:37:42 | Patlabor221 | or there are just a lot of angry people |
| 22:37:43 | BZig | If it is the right one or not, i don't know |
| 22:37:46 | BZig | Yes |
| 22:37:54 | Widget | BZig: And a lot of smart people with plenty of info are opposed to your view. |
| 22:37:57 | Widget | BZig: So? |
| 22:37:58 | BZig | There are lots of smart people with lots of info who oppose Iraq too |
| 22:38:00 | BZig | :) |
| 22:38:02 | paul | is back (gone 00:01:52) |
| 22:38:18 | Widget | BZig: A lot of smart people didn't want WWII. A lot of smart people wanted war in Vietnam. |
| 22:38:20 | BZig | Lets just hope they choose the right one |
| 22:38:27 | BZig | Yep |
| 22:38:34 | BZig | mistakes happen, but will invading Iraq be one? |
| 22:38:40 | BZig | Can't say |
| 22:38:41 | paul | BZig: do you not think the reason is that rumsfeld, cheney and bush are trying to |
| 22:38:45 | Patlabor221 | none of these choices will ever be totatly the "right one" |
| 22:38:45 | paul | 1: get revenge |
| 22:38:51 | Patlabor221 | someone will get pissed at something |
| 22:38:55 | paul | 2. divert attention from the poor economic situation |
| 22:39:07 | BZig | Hrm |
| 22:39:13 | BZig | This is easy for me to argue, being Canadian |
| 22:39:19 | BZig | I must admit I hope Canada doesnt join in |
| 22:39:24 | Widget | :) |
| 22:39:27 | paul | ah... |
| 22:39:28 | Patlabor221 | what would they join in with? |
| 22:39:29 | BZig | Now I ask myself why :) |
| 22:39:33 | BZig | Iraq attack |
| 22:39:34 | Patlabor221 | don't you have like 2 planes? |
| 22:39:39 | Patlabor221 | and a boat |
| 22:39:48 | BZig | We have some |
| 22:39:50 | Patlabor221 | no you have more then one boat I know of |
| 22:39:53 | BZig | its called a coalition |
| 22:40:00 | paul | BZig: have you looked at the question of attacking iraq from the POV of the arab/middle east perspective? |
| 22:40:11 | BZig | Probably not |
| 22:40:18 | BZig | But who in the middle east? |
| 22:40:26 | paul | if anything would /help/ the extremeist islamic's attacking iraq would. |
| 22:40:28 | BZig | A doctor? Or a sucide bomber |
| 22:40:32 | paul | arabs. |
| 22:40:39 | BZig | .. |
| 22:40:45 | BZig | I cant look from "arabs" view |
| 22:40:49 | BZig | What is there view? |
| 22:40:55 | paul | yes you can, use your imagination. :) |
| 22:41:00 | BZig | Are they just wanting to get on with their lives or willing to die to kill Israel |
| 22:41:06 | BZig | :) |
| 22:41:10 | paul | ooh. |
| 22:41:23 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 22:41:28 | paul | most just want to get on with their lives i guess. |
| 22:41:32 | iLLf8d | test |
| 22:41:34 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:41:42 | iLLf8d | sorry just goofing with windows in here |
| 22:41:43 | BZig | :) |
| 22:41:44 | iLLf8d | kinda neat |
| 22:41:46 | BZig | Prove it. |
| 22:41:52 | BZig | Must be a silent majority |
| 22:42:06 | paul | but its not going to help opinion of america if america attacks iraq. and that will be enough to swing more people towards extremism. |
| 22:42:15 | BZig | Doesn't matter, debate is over |
| 22:42:19 | paul | ah. |
| 22:42:20 | BZig | we both made our points and arguments |
| 22:42:26 | BZig | And its not up to either of us to decide |
| 22:42:30 | BZig | :) |
| 22:42:38 | BZig | ha, i thought myself clever in my view |
| 22:42:41 | paul | no, but most of the world has come out against it. |
| 22:42:43 | iLLf8d | anyone run bitchx |
| 22:42:44 | BZig | but then i dont want Canada to fight Iraq |
| 22:42:49 | paul | so the majority opinion is "no" |
| 22:42:51 | iLLf8d | actually |
| 22:42:56 | paul | anyway.. |
| 22:42:58 | iLLf8d | anyone ever run bitchx and splitfire epic? |
| 22:43:02 | BZig | but the majority wouldnt of done Sept 11 |
| 22:43:03 | paul | back to my script |
| 22:43:07 | paul | indeed. |
| 22:43:11 | BZig | That didnt stop 3k from dying |
| 22:43:12 | paul | which had nothing to do with iraq. |
| 22:43:26 | BZig | I disagree, but oh well |
| 22:43:29 | paul | 3k - that's how many palestinians die every 2 years. |
| 22:43:36 | BZig | ... |
| 22:43:39 | BZig | In suicide attacks |
| 22:43:43 | BZig | and Israelis? |
| 22:43:52 | BZig | The children who had nails in their organs? |
| 22:44:00 | paul | funny.. but the israeli's kill 3x more palestinians than the extremists kill israelis |
| 22:44:09 | BZig | Israel is too complicated for me to come to view on |
| 22:44:09 | paul | each year... |
| 22:44:15 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 22:44:15 | BZig | I can symphathize with both sides |
| 22:44:20 | paul | anyway.. |
| 22:44:21 | BZig | I haven't made up my mind on Israel yet ;) |
| 22:44:26 | captain_proton | the dormitorium is coming together :) |
| 22:44:30 | captain_proton | a complete scale model of my room |
| 22:44:32 | captain_proton | in bzw format |
| 22:44:33 | paul | ? |
| 22:44:36 | paul | cool. |
| 22:44:40 | paul | lets play! :) |
| 22:44:47 | iLLf8d | hrm |
| 22:44:48 | captain_proton | its a LOOOOONG way off though |
| 22:44:51 | paul | oh. |
| 22:44:51 | BZig | doh |
| 22:44:53 | captain_proton | roommate and i are currently modelling the beds |
| 22:45:01 | paul | cute. |
| 22:45:03 | BZig | Proton: in university? |
| 22:45:03 | captain_proton | we've got the basic room (with window, door, and closets) |
| 22:45:10 | captain_proton | and the shelves on the wall |
| 22:45:16 | captain_proton | after the beds, we model the desks, then the fridge |
| 22:45:20 | captain_proton | BZig: yeah |
| 22:45:22 | iLLf8d | heh yeah heaps of laundry and 45 day old moldy food is tough to scale |
| 22:45:22 | paul | captain_proton: bloody students with too much time on their hands :) |
| 22:45:31 | captain_proton | haha |
| 22:45:31 | BZig | Should be studying |
| 22:45:32 | captain_proton | off to dinner |
| 22:45:47 | BZig | and i should of done homework in the past 2 hours |
| 22:45:58 | BZig | Now ill be doing 10 hrs of work tomorrow |
| 22:46:29 | iLLf8d | bbl cya |
| 22:46:30 | BZig | Im off, cya |
| 22:46:33 | paul | BZig: sorry again for swearing at ya |
| 22:46:36 | paul | ah well. |
| 22:49:45 | Patlabor221 | cap: if it's scale, how does a tank fit in it? |
| 23:12:25 | Patlabor221 | how can they expect me to get a 54 meg sound driver if they can only give me 7.8 k a sec |
| 23:14:00 | doughecka | 54 megs sound driver? |
| 23:14:33 | doughecka | thats pretty big... |
| 23:14:33 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: tanks are not scale :) |
| 23:15:23 | Patlabor221 | how big is a tank? |
| 23:15:53 | Patlabor221 | or actualy what is a unit in BZ? |
| 23:15:58 | Patlabor221 | a meter? |
| 23:19:09 | captain_proton | technically |
| 23:19:14 | Widget | A foot? |
| 23:19:26 | captain_proton | it doesn't really matter |
| 23:19:35 | captain_proton | so long as everything matches up, its just a 'unit' |
| 23:19:48 | paul | Widget: so how did they fit those encylopedias into your head in under 18 years? |
| 23:20:22 | Patlabor221 | how many units is a tank? |
| 23:20:35 | doughecka | paul: hehe |
| 23:21:02 | paul | i always assumed she was about 30ish cause of the amount of stuff she knew. |
| 23:21:32 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: hmm, one moment |
| 23:21:43 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:21:51 | captain_proton | { "_tankLength", "6.0", false, StateDatabase::Locked}, |
| 23:21:51 | captain_proton | { "_tankWidth", "2.8", false, StateDatabase::Locked}, |
| 23:21:51 | captain_proton | { "_tankHeight", "2.05", false, StateDatabase::Locked}, |
| 23:21:52 | captain_proton | { "_tankRadius", "0.72 * _tankLength", false, StateDatabase::Locked}, |
| 23:22:00 | doughecka | captain_proton: you ever make that doc of server commands? |
| 23:22:11 | captain_proton | doughecka: wasn't me who was doing it |
| 23:22:15 | doughecka | oh |
| 23:22:16 | doughecka | who was? |
| 23:22:18 | Patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 23:24:22 | doughecka | so what are the commands? |
| 23:24:39 | captain_proton | there's a list on apathy's site, i believe |
| 23:29:26 | doughecka | k |
| 23:31:41 | Widget | Hm. |
| 23:31:46 | Widget | Interesting quote: |
| 23:31:48 | Widget | Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas." - Former Australian cabinet minister Keppel Enderbery |
| 23:32:24 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:34:49 | captain_proton | haha, this bzw will scare scanline |
| 23:34:57 | doughecka | oh? |
| 23:35:05 | doughecka | setup it up and show me |
| 23:35:14 | captain_proton | its not even half done |
| 23:35:57 | doughecka | oh |
| 23:36:02 | doughecka | show me anyway |
| 23:36:04 | doughecka | :P |
| 23:37:59 | doughecka | download the windows version |
| 23:38:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:43:16 | captain_proton | damn, this thing is HUGE |
| 23:43:26 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:44:06 | doughecka | tsk |
| 23:44:11 | doughecka | whats its name? |
| 23:45:18 | captain_proton | dormitorium |
| 23:45:25 | captain_proton | i'll take a ss of bzedit with it open |
| 23:45:44 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:45:48 | doughecka | sounds... neat... |
| 23:46:10 | PatLabor221 | cap: don't you wish you had more textures now :) |
| 23:46:43 | captain_proton | PatLabor221: very very much |
| 23:46:51 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/dormitorium-ss.png |
| 23:47:07 | captain_proton | thats the work-in-progress |
| 23:49:06 | PatLabor221 | yup that's a dorm room |
| 23:50:58 | captain_proton | connect to bhaskara.bzflag.org:5155 |
| 23:51:04 | doughecka | k |
