| 00:01:11 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 00:04:00 | pmaime | bugger all. halflifes a crok, says it'll bloody work, says i gotta code the sodding bastard first tough |
| 00:04:36 | Patlabor221 | never tried it in linux |
| 00:04:40 | Patlabor221 | great game tho |
| 00:04:58 | pmaime | wine is whore, dont even work proper |
| 00:05:14 | Patlabor221 | I seem to spend too much time making my own game these days to play anything tho |
| 00:05:33 | pmaime | make your own game eh? |
| 00:05:43 | Patlabor221 | atempting to |
| 00:05:51 | Patlabor221 | still in the lobrary state tho |
| 00:06:05 | pmaime | if you tell me you used the doom engine ill bloody crak you one |
| 00:06:06 | Patlabor221 | making sure everything will work cross plat |
| 00:06:15 | Patlabor221 | naw |
| 00:06:22 | Patlabor221 | it's all my own stuff |
| 00:06:37 | Patlabor221 | using SDL to set up the windows and GL for me |
| 00:06:50 | pmaime | just make sure to bang out a SuSE package eh? |
| 00:06:57 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/ |
| 00:07:13 | Patlabor221 | I don't even know how to make packages, I'll need help on that |
| 00:07:23 | sussudio | any word on 1.8? |
| 00:07:54 | Patlabor221 | well with BZFlag on vacation and Cap moving, I don't think there has been a lot of work on it |
| 00:08:00 | pmaime | words like rock of a cloudy mountan pleanty a real contenten though foul |
| 00:08:30 | Patlabor221 | now I have no clue what you just said |
| 00:08:33 | pmaime | shites what it is, e7 is well along thouhg |
| 00:08:42 | pmaime | IS a bit drunk |
| 00:08:54 | bryjen | a bit ? |
| 00:08:57 | sussudio | i'm looking forward to the cheat detection in 1.8...... |
| 00:08:58 | Patlabor221 | 1.8 needs a hella work |
| 00:09:30 | Patlabor221 | I personaly don't see them finishing it this year |
| 00:09:40 | Patlabor221 | there is stuff that isn't even speced yet |
| 00:09:42 | pmaime | dinah's got me cooking her a bloody switch for depth buffering on that "thing" |
| 00:10:00 | pmaime | and boys that code is bloody nightmare |
| 00:10:01 | sussudio | it's sad how some people keep arguing that they're not using a modified client while they clearly are |
| 00:10:04 | Patlabor221 | and making a map editors for it will be a pain |
| 00:10:34 | Patlabor221 | you gonna force the z buff to 32 bit? |
| 00:10:50 | bryjen | was anything actually been moved to the server side yet ? |
| 00:10:56 | bryjen | s/was/has |
| 00:11:02 | Patlabor221 | yeah a bunch of stuff was |
| 00:11:24 | Patlabor221 | that was one of the last things cap did before geting his teeth riped out |
| 00:11:44 | pmaime | well its either that or convince d to drop her bloody obsesseion with true color |
| 00:12:25 | Patlabor221 | her card won't let her do a 32 bit frame and Z buffers? |
| 00:12:32 | pmaime | oh bog im smashed |
| 00:12:32 | Patlabor221 | at the same time? |
| 00:12:57 | pmaime | xfree86 driver shite you know |
| 00:13:09 | Patlabor221 | yeah, that ati suff |
| 00:13:22 | sussudio | dervish dukot is definetly on my shitlist now |
| 00:13:23 | Patlabor221 | I can do that with my nvidias |
| 00:13:38 | pmaime | suppose i could switch er card while shes out... |
| 00:13:39 | bryjen | is "true" color 24 or 32 bit? |
| 00:13:41 | Patlabor221 | and it sucks that they charge for the good gl ATI drivers |
| 00:13:56 | Patlabor221 | there isn't a dif between 32 and 24 bit color |
| 00:14:04 | bryjen | ? |
| 00:14:14 | pmaime | thats the snafu mate |
| 00:14:28 | Patlabor221 | tin 32 bit color they use the last 8 bits for alpah |
| 00:14:30 | Patlabor221 | not color |
| 00:14:52 | bryjen | ah. i just started wondering what the fourth color would be |
| 00:14:54 | pmaime | transparency's a bitch goddes and be sure |
| 00:14:55 | Patlabor221 | you still get 8 for are 8 for g and 8 for b in both setups |
| 00:15:11 | bryjen | makes sense |
| 00:15:14 | Patlabor221 | that's is completely true |
| 00:15:39 | Patlabor221 | a lot of drivers it seems won't make the z buff a higher depth then the frame tho |
| 00:16:15 | pmaime | someday, when im king, all this sod 'ill work proper |
| 00:16:40 | Patlabor221 | just make it so I don't have to depth sort my transparent things and I'll be happy |
| 00:17:16 | pmaime | shall i get you a pony while im at it =P |
| 00:17:21 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 00:17:23 | bryjen | king pmaime and his mighty LART |
| 00:17:33 | Patlabor221 | never much for ponys |
| 00:17:36 | pmaime | lol |
| 00:18:06 | Patlabor221 | allthough if you could help arange the death of some people that would help |
| 00:18:32 | pmaime | now now, children coud be listening |
| 00:18:42 | bryjen | or the FBI |
| 00:18:50 | Patlabor221 | and this bothers me because? |
| 00:19:19 | pmaime | whats the FBI? |
| 00:19:24 | Patlabor221 | ether |
| 00:19:35 | Patlabor221 | Federal beuro of Investigation |
| 00:19:56 | pmaime | what like a dresser? rather silly title |
| 00:20:08 | sussudio | well, there goes another jzaun crash.... |
| 00:20:30 | Patlabor221 | jzuan must have some bad maps |
| 00:20:40 | bryjen | Bureau as in department or agency |
| 00:20:44 | Patlabor221 | I need to put a link checker in my map edit |
| 00:20:48 | pmaime | i always thought the command was sudo su, got me a bit off gaurd with tthe sussudio |
| 00:20:52 | sussudio | and another...... |
| 00:21:06 | sussudio | it's gerbil by gerbil |
| 00:21:40 | pmaime-smoking | out for a bit mates |
| 00:22:17 | sussudio | this is stupid |
| 00:22:27 | sussudio | is there some kind of debug option in bzflag? |
| 00:22:38 | Patlabor221 | you can build it debug |
| 00:22:42 | Patlabor221 | and then debug it |
| 00:22:46 | bryjen | i got in. suprised me tho |
| 00:23:02 | sussudio | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 00:23:04 | bzbot | Elrod (P): 0 (0-0). pim (B): 1 (2-1). Deke Starkiller (r): 0 (1-1). Unreal (G): -2 (0-2). bryjen (B): 0 (0-0). |
| 00:30:21 | captain_proton | slaps Patlabor221 |
| 00:31:16 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: what evil hast occupied you recently? |
| 00:32:42 | bryjen | hast ? Art thou mad ? |
| 00:33:25 | pmaime | forsoth it doth speak as one of old! |
| 00:37:44 | bryjen | bzflag.org is slow |
| 00:38:41 | captain_proton | bzflag.org is hosted by sourceforge - yell at them |
| 00:38:48 | pmaime | if i want to make a server a bit of fun, whats a good command? any suggestions |
| 00:39:17 | captain_proton | -world decks.bzw ;) |
| 00:39:46 | bryjen | need a -j with that |
| 00:40:01 | captain_proton | and -r doesn't hurt |
| 00:40:28 | Nicole3 | hi people |
| 00:40:32 | bryjen | or +r |
| 00:41:28 | Patlabor221 | caP; evil? |
| 00:41:29 | Patlabor221 | where? |
| 00:41:37 | pmaime | can i stke em up or do i have to -j -r? |
| 00:41:39 | Patlabor221 | have they come back again? |
| 00:41:55 | Patlabor221 | I thought I lost them in the caves |
| 00:42:07 | bryjen | ah, the web page, she moves! submit the form, quickly. quickly, before it stops again! |
| 00:42:40 | bryjen | stke ? |
| 00:43:25 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: I have been away |
| 00:43:33 | Patlabor221 | I just got back in town today |
| 00:43:41 | pmaime | sorry mate stack that is -jrcb or what have rather than -j -r -c -b |
| 00:44:02 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: where ya been the last few days? i have the most amazing, singing and dancing, fantasmorific font-building program |
| 00:44:09 | captain_proton | pmaime: all separate |
| 00:44:16 | Patlabor221 | I have been in irvine |
| 00:44:19 | pmaime | bother |
| 00:44:34 | Patlabor221 | and now I have a headake |
| 00:44:58 | pmaime | that can be cured with our good friend liquor |
| 00:45:05 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 00:45:11 | Patlabor221 | but I am not at home |
| 00:46:26 | bryjen | ooh, fantasmorific. theres a candidate for the word of the day |
| 00:46:36 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: what is the font maker? |
| 00:47:23 | pmaime | bugger all its vomiting all over my command, sodding usage: message... |
| 00:47:55 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: takes in a ttf font and a point size, builds a .bmp (unfortunately, couldn't do better with SDL) white-on-black with as many characters per line as will fit in width=512, sizes height to a power of 2, and writes out a metric file listing width and height in [0,1] |
| 00:48:48 | Patlabor221 | not horible |
| 00:49:04 | Patlabor221 | is this your creation? |
| 00:49:07 | captain_proton | no, easy enough to select by color in gimp and save as tga |
| 00:49:09 | captain_proton | yes, of course |
| 00:49:44 | Patlabor221 | well I set color in my class |
| 00:49:47 | captain_proton | i was considering making it write out the texture coords for each character, but that might make it too convenient |
| 00:49:55 | Patlabor221 | all I realy need is the alpha channel |
| 00:51:03 | Patlabor221 | does she run on the windows? |
| 00:53:41 | captain_proton | probably |
| 00:53:44 | captain_proton | just uses SDL and SDL_ttf |
| 00:56:20 | Patlabor221 | then it should |
| 00:56:48 | captain_proton | stole bzflag's string_util stuff |
| 00:57:13 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:57:34 | captain_proton | string_util::format is a nice little utility |
| 00:58:10 | Patlabor221 | and it does? |
| 00:58:32 | captain_proton | std::string format(const char *formats, ...) |
| 00:58:54 | Patlabor221 | ohh like CString::format |
| 00:58:59 | Patlabor221 | and sprintf() |
| 00:59:06 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:04:29 | Patlabor221 | you know I'm ok if we want to bundle the texture an metrics into it's own format |
| 01:05:55 | captain_proton | well |
| 01:06:13 | captain_proton | metric file and font file have the same basename |
| 01:06:21 | captain_proton | eg papyrus36.tga & papyrus36.mtc |
| 01:06:29 | Patlabor221 | still from a management standpoint |
| 01:06:45 | Patlabor221 | and if it's just 8 it why make it a TGA? |
| 01:07:01 | Patlabor221 | I'd just make it an alpha chanel |
| 01:08:56 | Patlabor221 | using GL_ALPHA and the color the geo |
| 01:10:23 | captain_proton | just 8? |
| 01:10:38 | Patlabor221 | 8 bit |
| 01:10:52 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 01:10:53 | Patlabor221 | you said it makes a black and white image |
| 01:10:57 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:11:00 | Patlabor221 | that would be 8 bit |
| 01:11:15 | captain_proton | perhaps |
| 01:11:18 | captain_proton | dunno how SDL saves it |
| 01:11:19 | Patlabor221 | grayscale and all |
| 01:11:35 | Patlabor221 | i'm sure there are options |
| 01:11:42 | captain_proton | nope |
| 01:11:53 | Patlabor221 | then can you read the surface? |
| 01:11:53 | captain_proton | just SDL_SaveBMP(SDL_Surface*, const char* filename) |
| 01:12:21 | Patlabor221 | then I'd read the surface make it grays and write it out into the fonts file |
| 01:12:39 | captain_proton | ewe |
| 01:12:54 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:13:11 | captain_proton | i'd prefer to just have it as a texture like the existing fonts use |
| 01:13:26 | Patlabor221 | why? it dosn't buy us anything |
| 01:13:32 | captain_proton | that way if someone wants to make a pretty colored bitmap font they can (and pass color = white) |
| 01:13:36 | Patlabor221 | it has be redone to use the metrics and the new format anywhat |
| 01:13:47 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:13:58 | Patlabor221 | then make a nother tool that mergers them |
| 01:14:19 | Patlabor221 | and make it an option in the tool |
| 01:15:00 | Patlabor221 | I don't like how I have to store 4 channels for a font in the current system |
| 01:16:15 | Patlabor221 | even if they were 2 files, it would be nice if the metrics file could specify if the font has it's own internal color |
| 01:16:40 | Patlabor221 | then it would know how to use the image |
| 01:18:32 | captain_proton | the font API itself won't change much |
| 01:18:47 | Patlabor221 | this is true |
| 01:18:53 | captain_proton | but i'm working on a font manager which will spider and load the files |
| 01:19:23 | Patlabor221 | it should have its own load functions like the others |
| 01:19:31 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:19:32 | Patlabor221 | and it's own texure amanger |
| 01:19:36 | Patlabor221 | manager |
| 01:19:41 | Patlabor221 | no need to use the same one |
| 01:19:50 | captain_proton | its own, hmm... |
| 01:19:52 | captain_proton | good point |
| 01:20:16 | Patlabor221 | I should change the texture manager to load 8 bit images as just alpha |
| 01:28:43 | pmaime | bolloucks, seems i cant run my server all spoofed and remote :-( |
| 01:45:58 | Patlabor221 | I go home now |
| 03:10:58 | blair | wtf is prot |
| 03:11:08 | blair | lets go you sissie girl |
| 03:11:25 | blair | nuum commands it |
| 03:11:30 | blair | you die proton |
| 03:14:23 | sussudio | them figthin words |
| 03:19:19 | Widget | Folgen deinen traum von gerechtekeit. |
| 03:20:19 | sussudio | wo ist die bahnhof |
| 03:21:10 | Widget | Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist von den Aalen voll. |
| 03:21:57 | sussudio | -|- (Die_Fantastischen_Vier)_[02]_Die_Da_(Maxi_-_Mix).mp3 (7,933,952 bytes 186kbps VBR Joint Stereo 5mins 42secs Genre:Rap Year:1992 Album:Die Da !?! (CD Single) |
| 03:22:18 | sussudio | hallo thomas, alles klar? |
| 03:28:49 | Widget | Nando kizutsuite mo. |
| 03:56:37 | sussudio | -|- (Mory_Kante)_[03]_Yé_Ké_Yé_Ké_(Afro_Acid_Remix).mp3 (5,038,080 bytes 173kbps VBR Joint Stereo 3mins 53secs Genre:Dance Year:1988 Album:Tama (CD Single) |
| 03:56:57 | sussudio | yeah, whatever that language is |
| 04:14:35 | Widget | They speak it in this one island country called Japan. |
| 04:17:11 | sussudio | swahili? |
| 04:32:01 | Widget | No, Dutch. |
| 04:46:59 | sussudio | have you even heard mory kante? saying "dutch" is just dumb. |
| 07:32:24 | captain_proton | 'lo ruudi |
| 07:32:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | hihi |
| 07:33:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | some matches today? |
| 07:34:37 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 07:35:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | listens to some old Estonian punk |
| 07:37:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://punk.bumpclub.ee/jmke/pildid/VT1.jpg |
| 07:38:16 | captain_proton | ruudi: that you?? |
| 07:38:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | nono |
| 07:39:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | i havn't been punk mutch...but if i was 17 there was some punk action goin on anyway :) |
| 07:39:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | that's estonian most fame punk on that pic |
| 07:39:18 | captain_proton | ah |
| 07:40:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | but i had leather jacket that every morngin took some time to sew up the sleeve :) |
| 07:41:08 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:41:19 | captain_proton | is the anti-punk |
| 07:42:21 | [BZ]Ruudi | well we had nice cummunity on saaremaa...(biggest island on estonia) skinheads, black metal dudes, punks all together,,,and sometimes 100kilo tudes just was sewing some rednecks...but we all was peaceful |
| 07:44:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://fotokala.artun.ee/images/976362303.jpg regular look from my friends pic is made by me :) |
| 07:46:55 | captain_proton | well, i think i'm gonna head off to bed |
| 07:46:57 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 07:47:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | night |
| 08:16:32 | Widget | http://fotokala.artun.ee/images/976362303.jpg is Ruudi? |
| 08:32:59 | Widget | Hum dee dum. |
| 08:43:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | no not me widget |
| 08:43:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | a friend of mine but pic is shooted by me |
| 08:44:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://foto.kala.ee/baas.php?aktsioon=tegija&autor_id=346 more pics by me |
| 08:58:47 | Widget | shoot = strong verb |
| 10:20:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | any league matches today? |
| 13:37:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | got 6 kilo watermelon from sotre... |
| 13:37:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | store.. |
| 14:14:51 | mandy | hihihi |
| 14:37:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | ack not a gaming day...but i'm sure i can do something better than that ..irw |
| 14:40:32 | mandy | hihihi |
| 14:40:51 | mandy | hibihibihibi |
| 14:40:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | so wats up on american side? |
| 14:41:21 | mandy | boring |
| 14:41:42 | mandy | talking about sending the blacks back to where they came from |
| 14:41:56 | mandy | government thinks they are taking over |
| 14:42:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm whell and you should come back where you from :P |
| 14:42:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | europe would explode! |
| 14:42:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | and affrica same way but indians would get soem fresh air there |
| 14:42:46 | mandy | yeah |
| 14:43:00 | mandy | stupid tongue =P |
| 14:43:23 | mandy | noooo |
| 14:43:28 | [BZ]Ruudi | nevermind the tongue nice thing it is on some acts |
| 14:43:29 | mandy | =P |
| 14:43:33 | mandy | shitttt |
| 14:43:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | nono not in that one |
| 14:43:47 | mandy | :P |
| 14:43:53 | mandy | thereee |
| 14:44:00 | mandy | lol |
| 14:44:09 | mandy | i forgot how to do it |
| 14:44:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | damn they show simpsons from tv like it's funny or something |
| 14:44:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | mandy you should more use your tongue - buy ice cream! |
| 14:45:05 | mandy | lol |
| 14:45:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | got 6kilo watermelon but that's a boring thing to lick |
| 14:45:35 | mandy | pshh |
| 14:45:46 | mandy | right... |
| 14:47:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | needs Aria Giovanni into hi's tank :PPP |
| 14:48:10 | mandy | lol |
| 14:48:19 | mandy | sits down |
| 14:48:31 | mandy | we do have chairs right? |
| 14:48:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | a real nice lookin pornstar wouldn't harm me a bit |
| 14:48:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | chairs hmm i got one bit too hard but sitable |
| 14:49:07 | mandy | ok |
| 14:52:36 | mandy | lalala |
| 14:52:49 | mandy | lol overheated |
| 14:54:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | it's indian summer here you know :) |
| 14:55:22 | mandy | ohh |
| 14:55:27 | mandy | poor u |
| 14:55:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | all dry |
| 14:55:50 | mandy | it rained last night |
| 14:56:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah you bit in different place too |
| 14:58:10 | mandy | yeah i know |
| 14:59:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | damn opera can't do most of webpages |
| 14:59:25 | mandy | ruudi....you bore me :P |
| 14:59:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | what or who don't!? |
| 14:59:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | doesn't |
| 14:59:49 | mandy | lol |
| 15:00:02 | mandy | my ass hurts too |
| 15:00:18 | mandy | =\ |
| 15:00:23 | [BZ]Ruudi | well what's up with your ass not that i'm too interested about it but... |
| 15:01:11 | mandy | playing volly ball and someguy spiked it at my ass |
| 15:01:16 | mandy | vollyball |
| 15:01:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah i see nothin interesing...but anyway sports not havy crimes |
| 15:02:27 | mandy | it hurts though :( |
| 15:03:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i would kiss hurting place but that wouldn't be by habbits |
| 15:03:19 | mandy | lol w/e |
| 15:09:21 | mandy | bleh bleh bleh |
| 15:09:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | mandy tell one thing what doesn't bore you hell? |
| 15:10:19 | Cell_prog_insect | ibot help |
| 15:10:45 | mandy | umm... |
| 15:11:14 | mandy | sex :P |
| 15:11:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | you got man or something? |
| 15:12:01 | mandy | yeah |
| 15:12:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | well why you sit at computer and not havin some sex than! |
| 15:13:12 | mandy | he's sleepen |
| 15:13:32 | doughecka | barfs over [BZ]Ruudi |
| 15:13:40 | doughecka | grins |
| 15:13:59 | mandy | eww |
| 15:14:13 | doughecka | burps with ibot |
| 15:14:16 | | ACTION burrrppss loudly |
| 15:14:16 | doughecka | ibot burp |
| 15:14:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | i'm just trying to help that girl here :P |
| 15:14:22 | mandy | lol thats just wrong |
| 15:15:00 | doughecka | wonders away and eats lunch |
| 15:15:15 | mandy | damn dough |
| 15:15:43 | | captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 7 hours, 28 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying: 'night [Sun Aug 25 08:46:57 2002] |
| 15:15:43 | doughecka | ibot seen captain_proton |
| 15:15:56 | doughecka | should be up soon |
| 15:16:05 | mandy | ooo we can do that |
| 15:16:11 | mandy | i didn't know that |
| 15:16:14 | mandy | lol |
| 15:17:53 | | mandy was last seen on #bzflag 1 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying: lol [Sun Aug 25 16:16:14 2002] |
| 15:17:53 | doughecka | ibot seen mandy |
| 15:18:01 | | ibot was last seen on #zaurus 202 days, 10 hours, 9 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: BZFlag: what ? [Mon Feb 4 05:08:46 2002] |
| 15:18:01 | doughecka | ibot seen ibot |
| 15:18:06 | doughecka | wow |
| 15:18:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | installs maya 4 |
| 15:18:34 | doughecka | installs a jamming device for [BZ]Ruudi |
| 15:18:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | jamming device wel i can jam allready |
| 15:18:58 | [BZ]Ruudi | just a good band needed |
| 15:19:15 | doughecka | can jam microwave freq. |
| 15:19:23 | mandy | lol |
| 15:19:41 | doughecka | installs he microscope software |
| 15:20:00 | doughecka | 200x webcam really |
| 15:20:16 | doughecka | mounted to lenses |
| 15:20:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | wears big silver cup for armor |
| 15:20:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | don't even try to read my mind... |
| 15:21:00 | mandy | lmao |
| 15:21:10 | doughecka | smashes [BZ]Ruudi's cups with a large, frozen slab of tuna until its a flat hunk of silver |
| 15:21:19 | doughecka | MUAHAHAHAHA |
| 15:21:37 | doughecka | aims his warp grenades at [BZ]Ruudi |
| 15:21:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | man man you kind of goldsmith? |
| 15:22:30 | doughecka | fires his hyper missles from the moon at [BZ]Ruudi |
| 15:22:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | eats frozen tuna as carrot |
| 15:22:56 | mandy | lmao |
| 15:23:14 | [BZ]Ruudi | take a side mandy and come into war |
| 15:23:22 | mandy | nah thats ok |
| 15:23:50 | mandy | i dun play little boy games |
| 15:24:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | is catchin missiles with butterflycatcher |
| 15:24:14 | mandy | lol |
| 15:24:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | well war is came for boys but affects all the people |
| 15:24:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | so we should kill litle boys first! |
| 15:24:53 | mandy | kills ruudi |
| 15:24:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | my logic is still clear |
| 15:24:58 | mandy | theres 1 |
| 15:25:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | is zomby kind of veck now |
| 15:25:33 | mandy | kills dough |
| 15:25:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | smells bit for fish |
| 15:25:36 | mandy | theres 2 |
| 15:25:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | well and what you gonna do here alone? |
| 15:25:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | no man in house |
| 15:25:56 | mandy | uh |
| 15:26:02 | mandy | i can survive |
| 15:26:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno you seem pretty dead allready |
| 15:26:39 | mandy | i'm pretty alive |
| 15:28:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | mandy how old are you ? |
| 15:28:11 | mandy | 19 |
| 15:28:16 | mandy | i told u |
| 15:29:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah i remember now |
| 15:29:09 | mandy | turning 20 in a couple days |
| 15:29:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | i should take notes |
| 15:29:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | notes ... mandy - american - intrests: sex - allways bored, age: 19, prb female |
| 15:29:53 | mandy | yeah |
| 15:30:36 | mandy | good notes |
| 15:31:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | oh and painful ass |
| 15:31:37 | mandy | oh yeah |
| 15:32:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | you should not to talk about your ass to me now you can't get rid of me :P and my tongue |
| 15:32:36 | mandy | i yiyi |
| 15:33:14 | [BZ]Ruudi | actually i think you would like me :) |
| 15:33:30 | mandy | ohh |
| 15:33:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | have seen a girl who doesn't |
| 15:34:25 | mandy | right |
| 15:35:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | 's arms are plated nickel and forehead made of wood |
| 15:35:37 | mandy | lol |
| 15:36:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | 'Cause I'm the most boring sons-a-bitch you've ever seen |
| 15:36:21 | [BZ]Ruudi | I dress in blue-yes navy blue |
| 15:36:21 | [BZ]Ruudi | >From head to toe I'm rather drab except my patent shoes |
| 15:36:58 | mandy | lol |
| 15:39:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | Oh, welcome to this world of fools |
| 15:39:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | Of pink champagne and swimming pools |
| 15:39:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | Well, all you have to lose is your virginity |
| 15:39:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | Perhaps we'll have some fun tonight so stick around and take a bite of life |
| 15:39:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | We don't need feebleness in this proximity |
| 15:39:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | and so on |
| 15:40:28 | [BZ]Ruudi | mandy what means DMV ? |
| 15:40:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | it's kind of american stuff... |
| 15:41:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | I pull the blinds then I take my clothes off |
| 15:41:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | Dance around the house like nature boy |
| 15:41:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | My genitalia and pectoral muscles aren't quite what I would like them to be |
| 15:41:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | But you don't see me |
| 15:41:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | No one can see me |
| 15:41:22 | mandy | uhh |
| 15:41:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | oh that what describes all us computer dudes :P |
| 15:42:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/7463/pork.html#song5 check this what means that DMV there? |
| 15:42:32 | | bomber was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 22 hours, 21 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying: someone for ducati ? [Fri Aug 23 18:20:33 2002] |
| 15:42:32 | Pinguin | ibot seen bomber |
| 15:43:14 | mandy | lmao |
| 15:45:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | Driver and Motro Motor Vehicles ? |
| 15:46:08 | mandy | yes |
| 15:46:23 | jzaun | captain_proton: Where is the 1.7 protocol doc? |
| 15:47:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | Department of Motor Vehicles - what's that place for? |
| 15:49:20 | mandy | where they sell cars or so |
| 15:49:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | like car store? |
| 15:50:03 | mandy | sure |
| 15:50:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | and there is allways some monkey busines is goin' on? |
| 15:51:47 | mandy | lol sure |
| 15:52:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | oh i see like old times in soviet union :) |
| 15:53:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm but what means - druther? |
| 15:53:56 | mandy | hmm... |
| 15:55:06 | mandy | ooo |
| 15:55:23 | mandy | heyz i'm late for a party i was supposed to go to |
| 15:55:40 | mandy | i just now looked at the clock |
| 15:55:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | time flys :P |
| 15:55:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | maybe that's just my tongue |
| 15:56:03 | mandy | i'm gunna bite that off one of these days |
| 15:56:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | i don't mind |
| 15:56:42 | mandy | ok |
| 15:56:45 | mandy | lol |
| 15:57:10 | mandy | well |
| 15:57:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | listens to some Primus - DMV those guys are fine on line |
| 15:57:19 | mandy | i have got to leave you now |
| 15:57:24 | mandy | lol |
| 15:57:27 | [BZ]Ruudi | me too |
| 15:57:30 | mandy | buh bye |
| 15:57:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | and i never do |
| 15:57:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | bye |
| 16:29:30 | captain_proton | jzaun: http://www.bzflag.org/new/developers/protocol.php |
| 17:33:52 | Cell_prog_insect | wha |
| 17:37:56 | Cell_prog_insect | today i wa scoding like hell, because i wanted to see some of my ideas be areallity as quick as possible and because tomorow i go fo 4 weeks to italy, camping, not comp no tv, just relax |
| 17:39:24 | Cell_prog_insect | but i did not come that far that i could put my code into runnig, because some small but important pieces just need to be done |
| 17:40:18 | Cell_prog_insect | so programming is now interrupted for 4 weeks |
| 17:53:43 | doughecka | bummer |
| 17:54:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | haha too bad no computer for 4 weeks irw |
| 17:55:17 | doughecka | *gasp* what is he gonna do? |
| 17:55:40 | PerfectCell | on the one hand its bad on the other its good, and i had no money for a vaio laptop from sony |
| 17:55:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | i bet he gonna float...lot of water in north italy |
| 17:56:13 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:56:14 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:56:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | hell that guy should be ill wh takes laptop for camping! |
| 17:56:38 | PerfectCell | he? |
| 17:56:38 | doughecka | PerfectCell: get a PDA and go stumble for some internet points |
| 17:57:00 | PerfectCell | PDA does it run openGL? |
| 17:58:41 | PerfectCell | i dont need a game boy :) |
| 18:16:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:16:04 | doughecka | I dunno |
| 18:39:28 | MrCooper_ | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:39:29 | bzbot | Uilos (R): 1 (9-8). n0hot (R): -2 (3-5). Apache (G): 26 (80-54). Frenchie (R): -47 (59-106). Poindex (G): 11 (90-79). Worf (Team Resurrection) (R): 6 (46-40). bzgirl (G): 9 (52-43). Lizard (G): -15 (6-21). |
| 18:41:53 | pmaime | is away: busy coding |
| 18:42:24 | Widget | Wots Percy doing here? |
| 18:45:02 | pmaime | heard that |
| 18:50:58 | sussudio | http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=percy |
| 18:51:35 | pmaime | Nothing Found |
| 18:51:36 | pmaime | Hm... that's strange. There's nothing there! |
| 18:51:40 | Widget | You mean ?node=percy |
| 19:01:58 | | paul was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 20 hours, 27 minutes and 2 seconds ago, saying: hmm.. be good if keys within bzflag could be bound to scripts. [Fri Aug 23 23:34:56 2002] |
| 19:01:58 | Widget | ibot: seen paul |
| 19:02:01 | | paulj was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 50 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: bye mandy.. [Sat Aug 24 19:11:29 2002] |
| 19:02:01 | Widget | ibot: seen paulj |
| 19:10:06 | freelancer | heya tank |
| 19:17:02 | akira_ | abnd |
| 19:24:35 | PerfectCell | gutn abnd |
| 19:24:57 | sussudio | hey cheatboy |
| 19:25:34 | PerfectCell | huh |
| 19:25:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | any matches on? |
| 19:27:24 | sussudio | matches on what |
| 19:27:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah i'm messing with words i guess...nevermind |
| 19:27:42 | akira_ | bzbot: duati |
| 19:28:51 | PerfectCell | someone knows Paul Nette |
| 19:29:10 | PerfectCell | ? |
| 19:29:24 | akira_ | bye |
| 19:29:35 | PerfectCell | bye |
| 19:34:47 | PerfectCell | how do i select text in gsview, ghostview |
| 19:34:51 | PerfectCell | ? |
| 19:36:51 | PerfectCell | how to solve the visibility problem to prevent overdraw, and only draw whats really visible |
| 19:37:25 | PerfectCell | u can use BSP, Portals, and so on, but all of that have remarkable drawbacks |
| 19:38:56 | PerfectCell | but Paul Nette a.k.a MidNights from flipcode.com seems to have discovered a new way to solve the overdraw problem, but he did not gave me a clue on his technique in his articles, does someone know more about this topic? |
| 19:48:00 | PerfectCell | hmm, i look at flipcode irc channel |
| 20:00:53 | Nicole3 | hi people |
| 20:06:48 | sussudio | grr |
| 20:06:54 | patlabor221 | woof |
| 20:07:08 | sussudio | one.bzflag.org has to be the suckiest server ever |
| 20:08:50 | captain_proton | you have to be the bitchiest bzflag player ever |
| 20:10:03 | patlabor221 | need an award |
| 20:10:18 | PerfectCell | hmm im really wondering how Pual Nette does solve the visibility problem |
| 20:12:44 | patlabor221 | of what? |
| 20:14:19 | PerfectCell | Paul Nette a.k.a MidNights from flipcode.com seems to have discovered a new way to solve the overdraw problem, but he did not gave me a clue on his technique in his articles |
| 20:14:58 | patlabor221 | overdraw with transperancy? |
| 20:15:25 | PerfectCell | no if u are infront of a boxbuilding |
| 20:15:31 | PerfectCell | in bzflag for example |
| 20:15:58 | sussudio | captain_proton: yeah, you're going to win an award for mr nice guy once of these days..... |
| 20:16:03 | PerfectCell | then many things behind this building are not visible to u |
| 20:16:09 | PerfectCell | but still rendered, |
| 20:16:12 | PerfectCell | = overdraw |
| 20:16:27 | patlabor221 | ohh oclusion culling |
| 20:16:32 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:16:35 | PerfectCell | yes |
| 20:16:48 | patlabor221 | octrees |
| 20:16:49 | captain_proton | sussudio: i'm just wondering why you keep coming back for more if everything pisses you off |
| 20:16:53 | PerfectCell | Paul Nette claims that his KAGE engine |
| 20:17:11 | patlabor221 | so send him an e-mail |
| 20:17:33 | patlabor221 | I think I meet him once |
| 20:17:38 | PerfectCell | only draws the polygons that are really visible, with out any precomputing like in BSP or portal techinque |
| 20:17:38 | sussudio | captain_proton: the server is faulty, go check for yourself. |
| 20:17:45 | patlabor221 | IIRC he was an ok guy |
| 20:17:54 | PerfectCell | really? |
| 20:18:38 | PerfectCell | what channel |
| 20:18:40 | patlabor221 | I think he was at a GDC with me, and my roomate knows him |
| 20:18:52 | PerfectCell | GDC? |
| 20:19:03 | patlabor221 | nono IIRC meeans If I recall corectly |
| 20:19:12 | PerfectCell | oh |
| 20:19:13 | patlabor221 | Game developers confrence |
| 20:19:14 | PerfectCell | :) |
| 20:19:30 | PerfectCell | o, really, great |
| 20:20:06 | captain_proton | sussudio: looks perfectly fine to me |
| 20:20:23 | PerfectCell | if his technique is that revolutionary, i wonder why he has so much probs to make it a success |
| 20:20:25 | patlabor221 | my roommate used to write for there "send me a qustion and we will answer it" thing they did there |
| 20:21:34 | patlabor221 | what's his site on flipcode? |
| 20:22:13 | PerfectCell | he has not site on flipcode but his work can be found at www.fluidstudios.com |
| 20:22:39 | PerfectCell | he has just a question and answer forum on flipcode |
| 20:22:54 | PerfectCell | under publications |
| 20:23:20 | PerfectCell | ftp://ftp.3dmaileffects.com/pub/FluidStudios/VisibleSurfaceDetermination/KAGE_--_What_it_Doesnt_Do.pdf |
| 20:24:09 | PerfectCell | llok at page 6: The KAGE RVS |
| 20:24:23 | patlabor221 | don't have acrobat installed yet |
| 20:24:30 | patlabor221 | redoin machine |
| 20:25:20 | PerfectCell | sounds great what he writes |
| 20:25:50 | PerfectCell | do u have ghost view istalled? |
| 20:26:14 | patlabor221 | I got JACK installed yet :) |
| 20:26:34 | PerfectCell | JACK what s that |
| 20:26:56 | patlabor221 | Jack shit. AKA nothing |
| 20:26:58 | PerfectCell | Jack the ripper |
| 20:27:00 | patlabor221 | squat |
| 20:27:03 | patlabor221 | nada |
| 20:27:05 | patlabor221 | nothing |
| 20:27:09 | patlabor221 | zippo |
| 20:27:22 | patlabor221 | a big goose egg |
| 20:29:27 | PerfectCell | THE KAGE RVS: |
| 20:29:27 | PerfectCell | Finally, we get to the visibility scheme used by KAGE: the RVS (Realtime Visible Set.) |
| 20:29:27 | PerfectCell | The RVS solves all the past visibility problems and it does so by determining what's visible when |
| 20:29:27 | PerfectCell | it's time to render the scene. |
| 20:29:53 | PerfectCell | In our bathroom example, the RVS wouldn't do what the typical engine would do. It wouldn't start |
| 20:29:53 | PerfectCell | with a full list of polygons for the entire scene (or even a partial list like a PVS system would) it |
| 20:29:53 | PerfectCell | would start by drawing the visible polygons nearest the viewpoint, and work its way outward from |
| 20:29:53 | PerfectCell | there, stopping when the scene has been fully rendered. This means, that if the ``visible scene'' |
| 20:29:53 | PerfectCell | consisted of a single polygon, it wouldn't have to perform any of the other work (transformation, |
| 20:29:53 | PerfectCell | clipping, projection, etc.) on any of the remaining million polygons. |
| 20:30:26 | patlabor221 | interesting |
| 20:30:40 | PerfectCell | Consider the previous paragraph. The RVS doesn't ever touch those polygons beyond what's |
| 20:30:40 | PerfectCell | visible. This being the case, does it matter how many there are? In reality, the number of |
| 20:30:40 | PerfectCell | polygons for the scene might be a billion polygons (or even a trillion!) but that wouldn't affect the |
| 20:30:40 | PerfectCell | frame rate. KAGE only renders what's visible, regardless of how many polygons are out there. |
| 20:30:53 | patlabor221 | wonder how he gets a fast sort on the poly soup |
| 20:31:07 | PerfectCell | me too, me too |
| 20:31:09 | patlabor221 | it' draws near to far |
| 20:31:16 | PerfectCell | yes |
| 20:31:20 | patlabor221 | and stops when the screen is full |
| 20:31:40 | patlabor221 | that was common on a lot of old software renders |
| 20:31:47 | PerfectCell | when all visible polys are drawn |
| 20:31:50 | patlabor221 | but they only used a cell/portal method |
| 20:31:53 | patlabor221 | not a soup |
| 20:32:08 | PerfectCell | Earlier in this document, I talked about the extra overhead incurred by trying to add characters to |
| 20:32:08 | PerfectCell | a scene rendered with a BSP tree. I also mentioned that if a player character were to approach |
| 20:32:08 | PerfectCell | the viewpoint and fill a large portion of the screen, that the BSP renderer would end up drawing a |
| 20:32:08 | PerfectCell | lot of environment polygons (hidden behind the character) that would quickly be overdrawn. In |
| 20:32:08 | PerfectCell | the RVS, dynamic polygons act just like environmental polygons. So characters moving around |
| 20:32:08 | PerfectCell | the environment don't offer a slowdown, rather they AID in the visibility. If they ``hide'' a portion of |
| 20:32:10 | PerfectCell | the environment, then that portion of the environment won't be rendered. |
| 20:32:47 | PerfectCell | thats not possible with bsp |
| 20:33:05 | PerfectCell | There is no prerequisite time incurred by any sort of a VIS program (the RVS requires no VIS |
| 20:33:05 | PerfectCell | program at all.) The time it takes to build an RVS data file for KAGE is only a fraction of a second. |
| 20:33:05 | PerfectCell | So level designers can go from building their levels to walking around in them in a matter of |
| 20:33:05 | PerfectCell | seconds |
| 20:33:34 | PerfectCell | sounds cool |
| 20:33:37 | patlabor221 | yes a BSP don't cut it |
| 20:33:53 | patlabor221 | it's gotta be some type of spacial octree |
| 20:34:00 | PerfectCell | do u think |
| 20:34:59 | patlabor221 | so find his mail, or a forum and ask him |
| 20:35:05 | PerfectCell | i think if u only draw what currently really visible in a bzflag frustum, u would draw 10%of the polygons u draw now |
| 20:35:23 | patlabor221 | that is true |
| 20:36:04 | patlabor221 | but a lot of those algos are set up for interrior scenes |
| 20:36:15 | patlabor221 | not exteriror landscapes |
| 20:37:22 | PerfectCell | i ask him in 4 weeks, i just was thinking about to figure it out myself the whole evening yesterday :), i tried in 2d first, getting a nice idea with polar coordinates, but it would not work in 3d |
| 20:38:01 | PerfectCell | but he says it does not matter if interrior or exterior , it performs equally well |
| 20:39:03 | patlabor221 | well that's good |
| 20:39:09 | PerfectCell | yes |
| 20:40:01 | PerfectCell | i just have to squeeze it out of him, if he wont tell me ;) |
| 20:40:08 | PerfectCell | somehow |
| 20:40:56 | patlabor221 | umm try asking first |
| 20:41:02 | PerfectCell | of coz |
| 20:44:51 | PerfectCell | but i copletly leeched :) his collision detection + response code, he uses 3d ellipsoids agains polygons detection, its so great |
| 20:45:52 | PerfectCell | the sliding over polygons is that naturally, and u can go stairs, and over small obstaccles, it fells great |
| 20:46:36 | PerfectCell | i converted all the collision code into c# and my game,it was a bunch of work |
| 20:48:45 | PerfectCell | since he uses his home made c++ templates for almost everithing, so code has many of the f..ing <<<>>> shit |
| 20:50:58 | patlabor221 | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm templates |
| 20:51:13 | captain_proton | breakfast of champions |
| 20:51:41 | patlabor221 | my computer feels so nekkid |
| 20:51:58 | sussudio | patlabor221: knit a little sweater for it |
| 20:51:59 | PerfectCell | i like template too, but the syntax in c++ is kinda horror |
| 20:52:13 | patlabor221 | no it just needs it's apps |
| 20:52:32 | sussudio | apt-get install * |
| 20:53:26 | captain_proton | emerge is nicer :) |
| 21:06:48 | Widget | Hast du eine Handy? |
| 21:10:37 | PerfectCell | wer? |
| 21:12:23 | PerfectCell | just one more he-man and the masters of the universe cartoon then i go to bed |
| 21:13:57 | jpablo | hehe. |
| 21:14:13 | jpablo | he-man used to be good :P |
| 21:14:48 | PerfectCell | yes, i had all the figures |
| 21:14:59 | sussudio | bah, smurfs ruled |
| 21:15:15 | PerfectCell | smurfs are cool too |
| 21:15:28 | sussudio | papa smurf could kick skeletor's ass every time |
| 21:15:46 | jpablo | ever seen he-man's sister show ? |
| 21:15:47 | PerfectCell | sure, |
| 21:15:49 | jpablo | shira or something. |
| 21:16:04 | PerfectCell | shire vs hordak |
| 21:16:08 | PerfectCell | shira |
| 21:16:09 | sussudio | she-ra? |
| 21:16:21 | PerfectCell | she-ra, sorry mispelled |
| 21:16:38 | PerfectCell | sexy woman |
| 21:16:39 | sussudio | yeah they showed all that cheapo stuff on sky |
| 21:17:34 | PerfectCell | cheapo stuff hahaha, that is it |
| 21:18:09 | PerfectCell | i downloaded it with Kazaa, P2P client, |
| 21:18:23 | PerfectCell | i also like saberrider and the starsherifs |
| 21:18:49 | PerfectCell | fighting against the outriders |
| 21:20:13 | PerfectCell | they all have coll sound |
| 21:20:54 | PerfectCell | unfortunatelly they fill almost my whole 40Gbyte HDisk |
| 21:22:30 | bzgirl | lol |
| 21:22:59 | bzgirl | sry..wrong window.. |
| 21:52:01 | Mr | Hello? |
| 21:52:06 | jzaun | hi |
| 21:52:14 | Infern0 | hi |
| 21:53:07 | MrJones | you guys ready for match? |
| 21:53:35 | MrJones | in an hour |
| 21:54:06 | Widget | A match? |
| 21:54:07 | Widget | Between whom? |
| 21:54:24 | MrJones | my team and resurrection |
| 21:54:30 | Widget | What is your team? |
| 21:54:37 | MrJones | Mr Team |
| 21:55:23 | MrJones | see ya then resurrection |
| 21:56:24 | paul | bzquery ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 21:56:31 | Widget | hihihi, paul. |
| 21:56:35 | paul | hey widget |
| 21:56:49 | Widget | You're still up? |
| 21:56:51 | Widget | Oh, yes. |
| 21:56:55 | Widget | You have the match. |
| 21:56:57 | paul | whats the query bot command again? |
| 21:57:06 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:57:06 | Widget | ibot: ducati? |
| 21:57:06 | bzbot | yoyo (R): -1 (3-4). uboat (G): -11 (19-30). HardAttack (G): -12 (29-41). Worf (Team Resurrection) (R): 10 (17-7). Crash (G): -2 (2-4). MrCooper (R): 3 (5-2). |
| 21:57:11 | paul | no, went to bed early for once.. |
| 21:57:16 | Widget | Wow. |
| 21:57:22 | paul | i'm dreaming that i'm on irc talking to widget. |
| 21:57:37 | paul | :) |
| 21:57:46 | Widget | You're dreaming that you're dreaming that you're on IRC talking to Widget. |
| 21:58:05 | Widget | is confused now. |
| 21:58:09 | Widget | Is that one of those Zen riddles? |
| 21:58:10 | jzaun | heh... your mind is hooked up to the computer... its not a dream, just a little technology.... think it and its sent, so be carefull what you think :-) |
| 21:58:17 | paul | maybe,or maybe i'm dreaming i'm dreaming i'm dreaming i'm talkng on irc to widget. |
| 21:58:19 | paul | who knows? |
| 21:58:20 | paul | :) |
| 21:58:35 | paul | jzaun: good point |
| 21:58:41 | paul | natalie portmann hmmmmmmmm |
| 21:58:46 | paul | oops :) |
| 21:58:52 | jzaun | :-) |
| 21:59:54 | jzaun | Wow, BZFlag, long time no see |
| 22:11:29 | Worf | bzgirl: Are you there BZGirl |
| 22:11:55 | bzgirl | hi worf |
| 22:11:59 | Worf | bzgirl: Hi |
| 22:12:25 | Worf | bzgirl: Ready for tonights battle? |
| 22:12:26 | bzgirl | your playing tonght rith? |
| 22:12:33 | bzgirl | hehe yeah |
| 22:12:36 | Worf | bzgirl: I plan on it |
| 22:12:36 | bzgirl | mr team |
| 22:12:53 | Infern0 | work,bzgirl: who'll be the third ? |
| 22:13:02 | Widget | paul? |
| 22:13:05 | Infern0 | work,bzgirl: bryjen ? |
| 22:13:14 | Worf | I don't know |
| 22:13:14 | paul | Widget: yep? |
| 22:13:22 | Widget | paul: Are you playing in the match? |
| 22:13:26 | Worf | good |
| 22:13:36 | bzgirl | yeah, bry said hed be in |
| 22:13:37 | paul | well, at moment i'm on a computer that cant do GL.. so. |
| 22:13:42 | paul | if someone else wants to play. |
| 22:13:46 | bzgirl | patlabor221: hi |
| 22:13:52 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 22:13:59 | jzaun | Hello patlabor221 |
| 22:14:19 | Worf | No GL. Does BZ work at all, Paul? |
| 22:14:22 | patlabor221 | sup |
| 22:14:51 | paul | Worf: i'mafraid to try :) |
| 22:15:05 | Worf | paul: I C |
| 22:15:44 | Worf | Do we have a ref for tonight? |
| 22:16:03 | bzgirl | dunno |
| 22:16:07 | Widget | I can ref. |
| 22:16:12 | Worf | cool |
| 22:16:28 | Widget | Wait... |
| 22:16:31 | bzgirl | thanks widget |
| 22:16:32 | Widget | Let me check something. |
| 22:16:37 | Worf | ......... |
| 22:16:47 | Widget | I have to leave at 12:30 sharp. |
| 22:16:59 | Worf | time zoone? |
| 22:17:17 | Worf | 12:30 UTC? |
| 22:17:17 | Widget | So the match has to start at exactly 1 GMT. |
| 22:17:51 | Widget | Er.. |
| 22:17:52 | Widget | Sorry. |
| 22:17:53 | Widget | 12 GMT. |
| 22:17:53 | Worf | I'll be ready |
| 22:18:01 | Widget | 2400 GMT, even. |
| 22:18:33 | sussudio | 0000 GMT is in 36 minutes |
| 22:18:38 | paul | the match is at 0000GMT? |
| 22:18:47 | paul | ie in just over 30 min?? |
| 22:19:02 | paul | is it? |
| 22:19:14 | Widget | Ya. |
| 22:19:14 | Widget | I think so. |
| 22:19:14 | Worf | ye |
| 22:19:16 | paul | ok |
| 22:19:17 | Worf | yes |
| 22:19:22 | paul | till then (maybe) |
| 22:19:48 | Worf | I'm going to practice for a few minutes. later |
| 22:30:32 | Widget | What is clubi? |
| 22:30:34 | paul | bzfquerylong ducati 5156 |
| 22:30:35 | bzbot | yoyo (R): -41 (37-78). uboat (G): 5 (104-99). HardAttack (G): -26 (70-96). BenniM (Karlsruhe, GER) (R): 12 (32-20). Crash (G): 1 (65-64). MrCooper (R): 3 (73-70). [dmp] (G): -9 (24-33). Gil (R): 9 (41-32). |
| 22:30:42 | paul | bzfquerylong ducati 32000 |
| 22:30:42 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 22:30:46 | paul | bzfquerylong ducati 59999 |
| 22:30:46 | bzbot | @ n0hot (B): 0 (0-0). |
| 22:30:50 | paul | bzfquerylong ducati 5155 |
| 22:30:50 | bzbot | brat (r): 1 (12-11). Mr Bond (B): 8 (14-6). Mr Jones (G): -1 (0-1). |
| 22:31:04 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 22:31:04 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 22:31:05 | bzbot | Deke Starkiller (r): 11 (24-13). Ef (B): 0 (5-5). Zrith (r): -7 (4-11). sfkj (G): -1 (0-1). MW (G): -1 (0-1). U.S.A. (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 22:31:10 | sussudio | isp? |
| 22:32:04 | jzaun | Internet Service Provider = ISP |
| 22:32:19 | sussudio | <Widget> What is clubi? |
| 22:32:30 | sussudio | * Joins: paul (~paul@hibernia.clubi.ie) |
| 22:32:33 | sussudio | k? |
| 22:32:37 | jzaun | :-) |
| 22:32:43 | jzaun | I was just joking.... sry :-) |
| 22:33:07 | sussudio | also, the definition of ISP has been redefined to Internet Stress Provider |
| 22:33:13 | sussudio | as least with mine. |
| 22:33:26 | jzaun | heh, I like that |
| 22:36:07 | patlabor221 | wow, winamp 3 roxors the boxors |
| 22:36:08 | MrJones | you guys ready for match? |
| 22:36:27 | Widget | They are, I think. |
| 22:36:36 | MrJones | inferno? |
| 22:36:40 | Widget | They left a few minutes ago... they'll be back at 2400 UTC. |
| 22:36:57 | Worf | We are missing Bryjen |
| 22:37:01 | MrJones | is that 700 CST? |
| 22:37:26 | MrJones | brat is here :( |
| 22:37:30 | Worf | bzgirl is brat? |
| 22:37:41 | MrJones | yeah |
| 22:37:46 | Worf | a brat :) |
| 22:37:54 | Infern0 | :) |
| 22:38:00 | bzgirl | heard that.. |
| 22:38:09 | Worf | oops |
| 22:38:14 | Infern0 | bzfquerylong ducati 5155 |
| 22:38:14 | bzbot | paul (R): 4 (11-7). brat (r): 0 (20-20). Mr Bond (G): 0 (0-0). |
| 22:38:36 | MrJones | how are scores logged on the website after we win? |
| 22:38:52 | bzgirl | if you win |
| 22:38:54 | bzgirl | :) |
| 22:39:01 | MrJones | no, after i win! |
| 22:39:08 | MrJones | :) |
| 22:39:15 | MrJones | :*P |
| 22:39:40 | Infern0 | MrJones: should we call MrBond ? |
| 22:39:45 | MrJones | yeah |
| 22:39:50 | Worf | u mean when we win. |
| 22:39:52 | bzgirl | he's busy |
| 22:40:02 | MrJones | he left and never found the irc channel |
| 22:40:14 | MrJones | hey brat did you tell him the channel |
| 22:40:15 | Worf | Is Jones switching teams |
| 22:40:16 | bzgirl | he dosent know about irc |
| 22:40:18 | MrJones | i meann bzgirl |
| 22:40:29 | bzgirl | no i didnt |
| 22:40:53 | bzgirl | i didnt have time, what with the blowing up tanks and all |
| 22:40:59 | MrJones | wheres uilos? |
| 22:41:21 | MrJones | Mr whats his name |
| 22:41:27 | MrJones | ill be back in a sec |
| 22:41:31 | bzgirl | elenor |
| 22:41:39 | captain_proton | wonders when patlabor221 will have a model |
| 22:41:47 | Worf | Mr Bond was on Ducati 59999 a minute ago |
| 22:42:35 | Infern0 | he's trying to turn irc on |
| 22:42:43 | MrJones | sigh |
| 22:42:51 | BZig | hi |
| 22:43:12 | MrJones | wheres Mr Elanor? |
| 22:43:16 | Worf | hi zig |
| 22:43:23 | Widget | BZig! |
| 22:43:27 | bzgirl | hello zig |
| 22:44:17 | Worf | I'd feel better if Bryjen was here. |
| 22:44:32 | Widget | :) |
| 22:44:40 | Widget | Can paul get to an adequate computer? |
| 22:45:05 | Worf | Paul, How about it? |
| 22:45:23 | BZig | Anyone for 1v1? |
| 22:45:38 | Widget | Where? |
| 22:45:47 | bzgirl | paul is playing on ducati now worf |
| 22:45:49 | Widget | Recently my framerate has been very bad. |
| 22:45:54 | Worf | ok |
| 22:45:55 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:45:55 | Widget | ibot: ducati? |
| 22:45:55 | bzbot | yoyo (R): -67 (57-124). uboat (G): 17 (137-120). Crash (R): 4 (10-6). BZig (G): 2 (5-3). [dmp] (G): -22 (41-63). |
| 22:46:08 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 22:46:08 | bzbot | paul (R): 11 (22-11). brat (r): -4 (24-28). Jomo (R): 0 (0-0). @Mr Name (R): 0 (0-0). Mr Bond (G): 0 (0-0). |
| 22:46:16 | Widget | There he is. |
| 22:46:54 | Infern0 | Widget: he's new to linux and really unhelpful in providing error messages |
| 22:47:07 | Widget | Who? |
| 22:47:17 | Infern0 | Widget: we haven't been able to tell Mr Bond how to connect to irc |
| 22:47:26 | Widget | Ah. |
| 22:47:43 | MrJones | elanor is on 59999 |
| 22:47:51 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 22:47:51 | bzbot | @ n0hot (B): 0 (0-0). Mr Elanor Athelas (G): 0 (0-0). |
| 22:47:55 | MrJones | whens the match going to start? |
| 22:47:55 | sussudio | hm. with debian typing "irc" on a shell prompt will almost get you here. |
| 22:48:17 | Infern0 | sussudio: RH and xchat |
| 22:48:20 | MrJones | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 22:48:20 | bzbot | paul (R): 9 (22-13). Jomo (R): -1 (3-4). Worf (Team Resurrection) (R): 0 (0-0). Mr Bond (G): 1 (3-2). |
| 22:48:28 | Widget | OK, they have three players. |
| 22:48:28 | sussudio | yuck |
| 22:48:32 | MrJones | why isnt paul here? |
| 22:48:35 | Widget | You can collect the, |
| 22:48:36 | Worf | Paul |
| 22:48:48 | Widget | paul is here. |
| 22:48:51 | Widget | But he's playing. |
| 22:48:55 | Widget | So probably not checking IRC: |
| 22:48:56 | Worf | Hello Paul |
| 22:49:01 | MrJones | now wheres Mr Bond? |
| 22:49:07 | BZig | Isn't Paul the bot? |
| 22:49:09 | Worf | ahhhhh |
| 22:49:13 | MrJones | and Mr Elanor |
| 22:49:23 | Worf | no Paul is paul |
| 22:49:33 | BZig | ah |
| 22:49:36 | Worf | They were on 59999 |
| 22:49:47 | MrJones | should we go there and get started? |
| 22:49:52 | paul | hallo? |
| 22:49:56 | paul | bzfquerylong ducati 59999 |
| 22:49:57 | bzbot | @ n0hot (B): 0 (0-0). Mr Elanor Athelas (G): -1 (0-1). Worf (Team Resurrection) (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 22:50:03 | paul | 59999? |
| 22:50:04 | MrJones | just have Bond meet us there? |
| 22:50:08 | Worf | Hi Paul, ready |
| 22:50:10 | paul | ok |
| 22:50:17 | Worf | We are red |
| 22:50:17 | Infern0 | ok, going... |
| 22:50:21 | Widget | OK. |
| 22:50:21 | MrJones | ok |
| 22:50:23 | MrJones | adios |
| 22:50:24 | Widget | They're on port 59999. |
| 23:02:07 | freelancer | any matches today?? |
| 23:15:54 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 23:15:54 | bzbot | Red: 3 players, score: 5 | Green: 3 players, score: -5 | |
| 23:16:02 | bryjen | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 23:16:03 | bzbot | @ n0hot (B): 0 (0-0). Mr Bond (G): 3 (50-47). @Elanor (B): 0 (0-0). Worf (Team Resurrection) (R): 10 (57-47). bzgirl(resurrection) (R): 0 (52-52). paul (R): 20 (62-42). @BZig (B): 0 (0-0). Mr Jones (G): -10 (12-22). Mr Name (G): -36 (28-64). @Widget (B): 0 (0-0). |
| 23:17:14 | bryjen | No game time remaining from bzbot. |
| 23:17:25 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you shipped the drive yet? if not, i have a better address for ya |
| 23:17:34 | patlabor221 | not yet |
| 23:17:37 | patlabor221 | been meaning ot |
| 23:17:40 | patlabor221 | it's on my desk |
| 23:17:44 | patlabor221 | mail me the good one |
| 23:17:58 | captain_proton | JeffM@gibbscam.com? |
| 23:18:32 | patlabor221 | jess |
| 23:19:12 | captain_proton | sent |
| 23:20:24 | patlabor221 | k |
| 23:25:22 | Widget | captain_proton: Can you enter a score? |
| 23:25:31 | paul | wehay.. |
| 23:25:31 | Widget | captain_proton: 9-1 Resurrection vs. Mr Team |
| 23:27:09 | Worf | bryjen! |
| 23:27:13 | Worf | we won |
| 23:27:27 | bryjen | hello. Yes. Yes You Did. :) |
| 23:27:38 | Worf | Where were you |
| 23:28:02 | bryjen | Brother's birthday dinner. I'd forgotten :( |
| 23:28:05 | bzgirl | Mr jones is funny.. |
| 23:28:11 | Worf | oh well |
| 23:28:16 | bzgirl | "they scored while i was talking" |
| 23:28:20 | Worf | nYes he is |
| 23:28:26 | bryjen | bzgirl: he talks alot |
| 23:28:32 | Widget | Hehe. :) |
| 23:28:32 | bzgirl | yeah :) |
| 23:28:33 | paul | good game there res |
| 23:28:35 | Widget | Yes, that's a bad habit. |
| 23:28:38 | Worf | Yes he does |
| 23:28:40 | bzgirl | i know! |
| 23:28:41 | Widget | And going to eat during a match. ;-) |
| 23:28:45 | paul | who did? |
| 23:28:48 | bryjen | Eat? |
| 23:28:49 | Widget | That was sort of funny. |
| 23:28:51 | Widget | Mr Jones. |
| 23:28:54 | captain_proton | Widget: done |
| 23:28:55 | bzgirl | lol |
| 23:28:58 | Widget | captain_proton: Yay. |
| 23:28:58 | paul | he did? ha ha |
| 23:29:07 | Widget | captain_proton: I just BZMessaged Chestal as well. :P |
| 23:29:12 | Worf | Yes he did, needed a sub for a few minutes |
| 23:29:15 | bryjen | ack. They had four players on tho, right? |
| 23:29:24 | Worf | right |
| 23:29:28 | bzgirl | no, one was green@ |
| 23:29:29 | paul | off for a smoke... to destress. |
| 23:29:37 | captain_proton | hmm, how do i force thinice to build for gtk 1.2 when i've got gtk 2.0 installed as well |
| 23:29:37 | Widget | Resurrection is now at 1161. |
| 23:29:43 | Widget | Right after Mr Team! |
| 23:29:45 | bzgirl | yaay |
| 23:29:48 | bzgirl | hehe |
| 23:29:55 | Widget | Who are at 1170. |
| 23:30:02 | Widget | Anyway, I must go. |
| 23:30:03 | Widget | See you. |
| 23:30:04 | Worf | Mr Team is ahead of us? |
| 23:30:06 | paul | bye widget |
| 23:30:07 | Widget | is away: Just away. |
| 23:30:08 | captain_proton | hmm, might be a different package |
| 23:30:09 | bryjen | Later Widget |
| 23:30:09 | Widget | Worf: Yep. |
| 23:30:17 | paul | they havnt lost as often we have |
| 23:30:18 | Worf | cya widget |
| 23:30:40 | Infern0 | should you start a new team ? :) |
| 23:30:40 | Worf | Mr Jones said this was there first game |
| 23:30:45 | Infern0 | it was |
| 23:30:49 | Infern0 | nice game, btw |
| 23:30:56 | paul | you start at a default, and go down if you lose. |
| 23:31:01 | bzgirl | Infern0: which mr are you? |
| 23:31:04 | paul | aiui |
| 23:31:08 | Infern0 | Worf: Name |
| 23:31:10 | Worf | so, I guess they dDIDN'T loss as often ;) |
| 23:31:24 | Worf | Name? |
| 23:31:25 | paul | not yet :) |
| 23:31:26 | bzgirl | Infern0: mr name? ok |
| 23:31:27 | Infern0 | Worf: I enjoyed that initial battle for the green flag :) |
| 23:31:33 | paul | although everythings possible :) |
| 23:31:52 | bryjen | Is bzflag.org/sf.net slow for everybody or Just Me(tm) |
| 23:32:02 | paul | everybody i reckon |
| 23:32:06 | Worf | I kept getting killed. I didn't injoy that |
| 23:32:09 | bzgirl | its ok for me |
| 23:32:30 | bryjen | ah. is ok NOW. must complain more often. |
| 23:32:31 | Worf | Infern0: Was that u killing me? |
| 23:32:42 | Worf | Infern0: over and over |
| 23:32:46 | jzaun | yah :-) jzaun-rotate can support different config settings for each individual map :-) |
| 23:32:56 | jzaun | now I just have to set them all up... joy |
| 23:33:08 | Infern0 | Worf: you also killed me several times |
| 23:33:42 | Worf | who me? ;) |
| 23:33:43 | Infern0 | Worf: I just hid the flag in a place where I could get to you from the other side of the field before you get out of there... |
| 23:33:52 | bryjen | jzaun: have you gotten complaints about client lock-ups while attempting to connect ? |
| 23:33:56 | Worf | oh ya |
| 23:34:14 | sussudio | bryjen: both lockups and crashes |
| 23:34:21 | jzaun | bryjen: one or two... if you connect right while the server is startingup it locks |
| 23:34:41 | Infern0 | but then you started destroyng us at the start place - and screwed my strategy |
| 23:34:52 | jzaun | I'm setting up a website though, will have a means for players to report what happened on what map |
| 23:34:55 | sussudio | yesterday with a gerbil map, it just crashes after a split second of getting something on my screen |
| 23:34:56 | Worf | glad to hear that |
| 23:35:11 | Infern0 | sussudio: me too |
| 23:35:13 | Worf | It was a great game. I have to go. cya |
| 23:35:17 | jzaun | so if its a map related lockup/crash then the authors can fix it |
| 23:35:20 | Infern0 | bye, it almost 2am |
| 23:35:23 | bzgirl | bye worf |
| 23:35:29 | sussudio | i think it's mostly gerbil maps |
| 23:35:35 | bryjen | does the server not exit gracefully and notify the list server to de-list it ? |
| 23:35:56 | jzaun | it does, if it didn't crash... |
