irclog2html for bzflag on 2002.08.22

irclog2html for bzflag on 2002.08.22 00:36:16 jimmy hello 01:17:57 ski hi all 01:41:41 luca_ someone here? 01:42:24 luca_ i tried to run bzflag in freebsd using the linux emulation: it doesn't work. x crashes. 01:43:44 luca_ it crashed again :-) 01:44:46 sussudio anyone else got DoS'ed by jzaun? 01:46:31 Patlabor221 seems that there's allways problems with that one 01:49:56 luca_ is there some option to disable something to obtain bzflag working in freebsd? 01:50:48 Patlabor221 I have not heard of anyone geting it to work in BSD 01:50:58 Patlabor221 adn the port does not fully work 01:51:12 Patlabor221 or so that is what cap tells me 01:53:39 luca_ can someone tell me if i exited regularly? 01:53:50 Patlabor221 luca_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:54:13 luca_ ok...x didn't crash 01:54:33 luca_ the kernel gave it a sighend signal 01:54:48 luca_ so the problem is the linux emulation in the freebsd kernel 01:54:52 luca_ damn 01:56:20 Patlabor221 well I am not an expert on the things 01:56:39 bzdoug do linksys wireless cards work in powerbooks? 01:56:52 Patlabor221 are there mac drivers for it? 01:57:26 bzdoug nope, but the linksys PC Cards for ethernet work fine 01:57:42 bzdoug but the card stays off when I plug it in 01:58:31 bzdoug hmmm 01:59:13 bzdoug the cards keeps blinkin the link lightn 01:59:41 Patlabor221 you are gonna need some soft to donfig the wireless 01:59:56 Patlabor221 it can't find the wireless host then 02:00:17 bzdoug hmm 02:00:25 bzdoug I configured it through USB 02:00:31 bzdoug on another comp 02:00:44 bzdoug but my laptop has allways been, wierd, sorta 02:00:53 Patlabor221 I am realy doubting there are drivers for that on mac then man 02:01:07 Patlabor221 you need some kind of USB NIC driver 02:01:08 bzdoug hrm 02:01:12 bzdoug well 02:01:18 bzdoug now I am trying it on the PC laptop 02:01:28 bzdoug and nothin.. 02:01:46 Patlabor221 do you have another wireless device there? 02:01:51 bzdoug hmm 02:01:52 Patlabor221 like a WAP or a router? 02:02:09 bzdoug I have one (1) AP and one (1) PC card 02:03:04 Patlabor221 dosn't look like linksys supports mac 02:03:28 bzdoug hrm 02:03:54 Patlabor221 and it will need some software to work 02:04:15 compaq is nothing but a despicable enema-bucketful of penguin-molesting bat toenails. 02:04:15 bzdoug ibot insult compaq 02:04:21 Patlabor221 what did they do to you? 02:04:30 bzdoug nasty laptops 02:04:31 Patlabor221 didyou buy a crap machine again? 02:04:42 bzdoug nah 02:04:43 Patlabor221 you bought it 02:04:48 bzdoug uncle gave it to me 02:04:51 bzdoug 133 mhz 02:04:55 bzdoug 32 megs of ram 02:04:56 bzdoug bleh 02:04:58 Patlabor221 then you can't realy complain then can you 02:05:19 Patlabor221 better then a kick to the bean bag 02:05:25 bzdoug hrm 02:05:39 Patlabor221 mmmmmm reverb 02:06:05 bzdoug chears 02:06:08 microsoft is nothing but a pox-marked thimbleful of fly-bitten toxic waste. 02:06:08 jpablo ibot: insult microsoft 02:06:10 bzdoug the link is steady 02:06:17 yourself is nothing but a fermented quart of tastless entrails. 02:06:17 jpablo ibot: insult yourself 02:06:18 bzdoug link slight* 02:06:28 Isn't that a bit silly, bzdoug? 02:06:28 bzdoug ibot tell ibot about ibot 02:06:32 Patlabor221 microsft has made the best keyboard I have ever used 02:06:33 bzdoug yes it is 02:07:08 jpablo has a microsoft mouse :P 02:07:30 Patlabor221 and it kicks ass dosn't it 02:07:55 bzdoug ahh 02:08:06 bzdoug kicks the desk 02:08:09 Patlabor221 what now? 02:08:18 bzdoug the laptop is into the freezing up mode now 02:08:21 bzdoug :( 02:08:28 Patlabor221 what OS? 02:08:32 bzdoug bah 02:08:34 bzdoug guess 02:08:37 Patlabor221 9x 02:08:41 Patlabor221 replace it 02:08:44 bzdoug *sigh* 02:08:48 bzdoug its only 133 02:08:50 bzdoug Mhz 02:08:52 Patlabor221 soo 02:09:02 bzdoug 2000 runs slowy 02:09:09 bzdoug NT should work 02:09:15 bzdoug but I have files on it 02:09:22 Patlabor221 how much ram? 02:09:26 bzdoug 32 megs 02:09:30 Patlabor221 don't bother 02:09:33 Patlabor221 even wiht NT 02:09:34 bzdoug hmm 02:09:46 bzdoug my sister has hte same model laptop 02:09:51 bzdoug with 32 megs in it too 02:09:54 bzdoug running NT 02:10:01 bzdoug but I cant get to it right now 02:10:04 Patlabor221 proalby hits VM like a cow 02:10:12 bzdoug *ahem* 02:10:17 bzdoug yes it does 02:10:29 bzdoug but its stabil 02:10:31 sussudio you can run win95 with 32mb 02:10:32 bzdoug :) 02:10:39 bzdoug dont have 95 02:10:44 bzdoug nor 3.1 02:10:49 sussudio or debian with a lightweight wm 02:10:55 Patlabor221 and you can run 2k with 32 megs 02:10:55 bzdoug linux is terrible n it 02:11:01 bzdoug bad drivers and such 02:11:11 sussudio linux-laptop.org? 02:11:17 bzdoug hrm 02:11:55 bzdoug worse than getting linux runnin gon a 486 thinkpad 02:12:01 bzdoug anyway... 02:12:26 bzdoug chears 02:12:31 bzdoug it unfroze 02:12:38 bzdoug now its ebooting 02:12:50 bzdoug and its gonna comeup with a registry error 02:12:56 sussudio ebooting? sounds like a mac thing 02:13:04 bzdoug REBOOTING! 02:13:07 bzdoug ;) 02:13:16 sussudio iBoot 02:13:30 bzdoug iboots sussudio out 02:13:34 sussudio? 02:13:34 sussudio ibot 02:13:59 luca_ ok. patched for freebsd. 02:15:07 bzdoug bah 02:15:13 bzdoug fixin ghte registry... 02:15:48 bzdoug "windows has found a good copy of the registry" We have replaced it and is rebooting! 02:16:00 bzdoug removes the card of course... 02:16:26 Patlabor221 and you need to tell us every step because?????? 02:16:44 bzdoug kicks the desk 02:17:15 bzdoug it "found" the card again! 02:17:30 Patlabor221 I'm very happy for it 02:18:22 bzdoug kicks the desk 02:18:29 bzdoug its rebootings "again" 02:19:07 bzdoug hates when the download fails 10 secends from the finish 02:20:01 bzdoug rips out the NT cd and marches to the laptop to make boot floppys 02:20:09 BZFlag thinks that's what resumes are for, 02:20:17 bzdoug eh? 02:21:13 BZFlag ah, nt. sux to be you. "wget -c" resumes a download on real OSes 02:21:40 luca_ ehy??? 02:21:41 bzdoug bah 02:21:44 luca_ i've a question! 02:21:48 luca_ damn 02:21:59 bzdoug nice questions... 02:22:09 luca_ what color is the screen of bzflag immediatly after the program starts? 02:22:21 jacques black 02:22:25 luca_ oh my god 02:22:59 bzdoug I would like it to be blue though, anyway of changing it? 02:23:00 luca_ it's black in freebsd and green in linux 02:23:21 luca_ mm...there's something i can't understand 02:23:34 bzdoug grins 02:23:55 bzdoug finds his genuwine NT book, but no CDs, nor floppys 02:24:06 luca_ in freebsd it seems night, and in linux morning 02:24:12 luca_ bah.. 02:24:22 bzdoug must be lag 02:24:25 bzdoug jetlag 02:24:41 luca_ bzdoug: what do you mean? 02:25:27 bzdoug ignore me, I am babbleing 02:25:33 Patlabor221 yes you are 02:25:39 Patlabor221 worse then usual 02:25:50 bzdoug I am annoyes 02:25:52 bzdoug d 02:25:59 Patlabor221 and ing 02:26:04 bzdoug hehe 02:26:32 luca_ please answer this 02:26:34 bzdoug I could get more money in parts, than selling the whole freaking laptop 02:26:39 luca_ what time could be in bzflag? 02:27:51 BZFlag bzflag uses the system time, unless the server enforces time syncing. 02:29:34 Patlabor221 dosn't it also use the date to get the moon phase? 02:34:06 bzdoug is there anyway to disable the registry checker? 02:34:46 bzdoug everytime it boots, it fixes the registry, removing my card 02:36:55 Patlabor221 umm it's not suposed to do that 02:37:09 Patlabor221 do you not have access to write to the registry? 02:38:02 bzdoug hmm 02:38:09 bzdoug its 98 02:38:13 bzdoug it should 02:38:28 bzdoug its been a problem for a long time 02:38:46 bzdoug but everytime I install the card, and it reboots, it "fixes" it 02:38:46 BZFlag Patlabor221: yes, moon phase and position. 02:39:19 BZFlag though to be precise you should fill in your lat/long in the config file. ;-) 02:39:58 bzdoug chears 02:40:09 bzdoug it did not "fix" it this time 02:40:14 bzdoug hopefully... 02:40:23 bzdoug hmm, its bedtime anyway.. 02:40:35 bzdoug is away: ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 02:40:42 Patlabor221 yayyyyy 02:42:18 bzdoug whoa 02:42:25 bzdoug it pings the network ok 02:42:28 bzdoug hrm 02:43:09 bzdoug wooooohoooooo! 02:43:18 bzdoug my laptop shows up on the network! 02:43:25 bzdoug chears, and goes to bed 02:49:03 Patlabor221 hmm no el capitan this eveing, proalby preping for his move. 02:49:53 doughecka vnc is great 02:50:17 doughecka kinda jerky, but it works 02:52:32 doughecka hrm, java is faster... 02:52:37 Patlabor221 soo uch for bed ehh 02:53:43 doughecka bed time... 02:56:06 sussudio RHAAAAAAAAA 02:58:22 dougslaptop? 02:58:22 dougslaptop ibot? 02:58:33 dougslaptop k 02:58:48 sussudio: huh? 02:58:48 sussudio ibot why does bzflag keep crashing on me 02:59:25 Patlabor221 doug go to bed 02:59:32 dougslaptop I am in bed 02:59:36 Patlabor221 or stop lying 02:59:36 dougslaptop :) 02:59:38 Patlabor221 bahhh 02:59:40 sussudio: sorry... 02:59:40 sussudio ibot why does bzflag keep crashing on me 02:59:46 sussudio answer meee 02:59:52 dougslaptop I got a wireless card! I am in bed! 02:59:53 sussudio sniff. 03:00:07 Patlabor221 ibotL what is why does bzfalg keep crashing on me? 03:00:13 patlabor221: bugger all, i dunno 03:00:13 Patlabor221 ibot: what is why does bzfalg keep crashing on me? 03:00:25 Patlabor221 did you set it? 03:00:52 sussudio thought i did 03:01:00 OK, dougslaptop. 03:01:00 dougslaptop ibot why does bzflag keeps crashing on you is because it hates $who 03:01:23 dougslaptop: no idea 03:01:23 dougslaptop ibot what is why does bzflag keep crashing on you? 03:01:26 dougslaptop bah 03:01:31 dougslaptop dumb bot 03:01:43 sussudio: huh? 03:01:43 sussudio ibot you suck 03:01:52 Patlabor221 it only does what people tell it to do 03:02:00 sussudio not even that 03:02:02 Patlabor221 it realy is just a reflection of humanity 03:02:03 dougslaptop wonders if 133 mhz is enuf to decode vlc streams in realtime... 03:02:20 Patlabor221 that's barely enought to decode a MP3 03:02:39 sussudio neh. you can decode mp3's on a p75 03:02:49 Patlabor221 yeah at 100% cpu usage 03:02:59 sussudio what's your point 03:03:25 Patlabor221 under 98 he's gonna use over half his CPU on mp3 03:03:37 Patlabor221 makes me doubt that he can do a vid stream 03:03:44 sussudio umm no 03:03:46 sussudio forget about that 03:04:10 Patlabor221 and I don't think his mom want's him looking at streaming porn in his bed at night 03:04:50 sussudio a vcr is cheaper 03:05:22 Patlabor221 yeah 03:05:33 Patlabor221 but not very geeky 03:05:51 sussudio depends if you manage to get linux running on it 03:05:59 Patlabor221 true 03:06:08 Patlabor221 but a VCR also needs a TV 03:06:28 dougslaptop hmm? 03:06:42 dougslaptop I have video output on this thing too 03:06:49 dougslaptop but I cant get it to work 03:06:49 Patlabor221 can't find any good porn sites? 03:06:52 dougslaptop its RCA 03:07:02 dougslaptop bah 03:07:17 Patlabor221 it's usualy set up on a func key or in the driver 03:07:33 dougslaptop (what drivers?) 03:07:42 dougslaptop I tried all the func keys 03:07:43 Patlabor221 for the video chipset 03:08:07 dougslaptop hehe, maybe I should check out compaq 03:08:09 dougslaptop .com 03:08:30 Patlabor221 what chipset is in it? 03:08:32 dougslaptop or maybe I should reinstall everything, because its asking me fix the registry again 03:08:38 dougslaptop hmm 03:08:57 dougslaptop cirrus logic 03:09:07 dougslaptop it can play divx videos OK 03:09:14 Patlabor221 amazing 03:09:18 dougslaptop really really really tiny divx movies 03:09:22 dougslaptop with sound 03:09:29 dougslaptop but it plays it... 03:09:31 Patlabor221 mp3 03:09:39 dougslaptop mp3 plays good oto 03:09:41 dougslaptop too 03:09:42 Patlabor221 a 486 will play them too 03:09:46 Patlabor221 just not very well 03:09:47 dougslaptop heh 03:10:24 dougslaptop ok 03:10:26 dougslaptop bed time 03:21:58 luca_ anyone want my patch to the bzflag port? 03:25:44 Patlabor221 for BSD? 03:50:00 Widget captain_proton: Better question: Can you post the sources somewhere? :) 03:50:09 captain_proton Widget: hmmmmm 03:50:27 jacques oh yes, we definitely need the source 03:50:36 Widget Yes, definitely. 03:50:45 Patlabor221 for what? 03:50:54 captain_proton ponders 03:50:57 jacques I dunno, I just need the source :-D 03:51:12 Widget I know. ESR says "Shut up and give the source" or something. 03:51:17 Widget captain_proton: Did you use anything Gnome-specific? 03:52:09 captain_proton Widget: for that program? now 03:52:11 captain_proton no* 03:52:26 captain_proton the terminal itself is drawn by the same program that draws the background, which uses SDL 03:52:32 captain_proton but the terminal itself is very incomplete 03:52:37 Widget I know. 03:52:40 captain_proton i'll post my pty abstraction class 03:52:49 Widget What is pty? 03:53:00 captain_proton pty = pseudo tty 03:53:05 Widget Ah. 03:53:06 captain_proton its what xterms and stuff use 03:53:29 captain_proton hmm, gimp 1.3.8 doesn't compile 03:53:57 Widget SDL provides access to the graphics framebuffer.. what does that allow you to do? 03:54:11 Patlabor221 draw 03:54:16 Patlabor221 blit 03:54:22 Patlabor221 make things be shown 03:54:23 Widget Draw? Blit? 03:54:31 Patlabor221 yes 03:54:33 Patlabor221 draw 03:54:37 Patlabor221 as in set pixels 03:54:44 Patlabor221 to difrent colors 03:54:48 captain_proton http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/pty.tar.gz 03:54:51 Widget So how do you draw a desktop background, then? 03:55:01 captain_proton blit the image surface to the display surface 03:55:03 captain_proton blit = copy 03:55:10 Patlabor221 fast copy 03:55:23 Patlabor221 and you can layer surfaces 03:56:00 captain_proton Patlabor221: my roommate has the petzold book :P 03:56:06 Patlabor221 as do I 03:56:09 Patlabor221 as do I 03:56:15 captain_proton but you don't use linux 03:56:20 Patlabor221 stil use it every so often 03:56:28 captain_proton but not primarily 03:56:33 captain_proton he does, yet he still bought the petzold book 03:56:50 Patlabor221 it was a good intro to windows programing 03:57:01 Patlabor221 very good infact 03:57:05 Widget captain_proton: What about the SDL stuff? 03:57:12 Widget If I can continue to impose. 03:57:14 Patlabor221 widget 03:57:31 Patlabor221 you kinda have to know a bit about imaging 03:57:35 captain_proton Widget: the SDL stuff for drawing the terminal is super-messy - it won't do you any good, better to just learn SDL 03:59:16 Widget http://www.libsdl.org/tutorials.php Which of these are any good? 03:59:32 captain_proton goes to look 04:00:48 captain_proton hum 04:00:50 Patlabor221 what do you want to do GL or basic 2d stuff? 04:00:51 captain_proton just from the descriptions the french ones look the best 04:01:32 Patlabor221 or the ones by marius they are very sbasic 04:01:35 Patlabor221 basic 04:01:48 captain_proton STAR THIS, BUDDY! 04:01:58 Patlabor221 ? 04:02:05 Widget 2D, mostly. 04:02:21 Widget Marius'? The one that says "not for newbies" at the top? 04:02:36 captain_proton hmm, just recalling the inside joke about C++ 04:02:37 captain_proton *this 04:02:46 Patlabor221 well since the french one 404's i'd say yeah 04:03:25 Patlabor221 widget do you know how graphics are represented on a computer? 04:03:27 captain_proton SDL is really very easy 04:03:33 Patlabor221 yes it is 04:03:41 Patlabor221 but if you don't know what a bitmap is it can be hard. 04:03:41 Widget Patlabor221: No. 04:03:45 Patlabor221 see 04:03:51 captain_proton hrms 04:03:53 Widget OK, I know the basics. 04:04:22 Patlabor221 ok well then you know that an image is just a chunk or mem then 04:04:27 Widget A stream of electrons is projected, and manipulated by magnets at the sides of the monitor to hit the phosphor of the monitor surface. 04:04:34 Widget The monitor image is non-interlaced. 04:04:38 Patlabor221 not that 04:04:40 Widget Meaning it doesn't skip lines like the TV. 04:04:43 Patlabor221 how it's used in code 04:04:46 Widget I read this in an oooold math book. 04:04:49 Widget Oh, that. 04:04:56 Widget No. 04:04:59 captain_proton how its stored in memory, etc 04:05:09 Patlabor221 an image is like an aray of data 04:05:17 Widget This isn't covered in "Intermediate C programming". 04:05:22 Patlabor221 nope 04:05:37 Patlabor221 each eleement in the array represents a pixel 04:05:39 Widget Do you know any websites that talk about this? 04:05:58 Patlabor221 I know some books 04:06:01 Patlabor221 that's about it 04:06:04 Patlabor221 check flipcode 04:06:10 Patlabor221 or gametutorials.net 04:06:39 jacques ooo gross 04:06:46 jacques i thought you were c++ programmers 04:06:51 Patlabor221 we are 04:06:57 jacques why are you talking about how images are stored in memory 04:07:03 Patlabor221 because they are 04:07:10 jacques dont you have methods to get you the pixel values? 04:07:22 jacques who cares how it's stored - that's private 04:07:29 Patlabor221 what are you talking about 04:07:29 jacques :-D 04:07:39 Patlabor221 you still need to know what happens on the ass end 04:07:44 jacques im talking about data hiding 04:07:47 captain_proton looking at Patlabor221's code, its easy to see he's a recovering C programmerer 04:07:58 Patlabor221 that was the first thin I learned 04:08:05 Patlabor221 well pascal was 04:08:16 Patlabor221 I just never learned streams 04:08:41 captain_proton lubs streams 04:08:54 Patlabor221 they seem to be nice 04:09:12 Patlabor221 but it seems to be easyer to debug a fread 04:11:01 Widget Aaah! How do you do 2D stuff in SDL? 04:11:06 Widget I guess I will read the French tutorial. 04:11:31 Patlabor221 Widget: the simple answer is load an image into a surface and blit it to the back buffer and then flip it 04:11:33 Patlabor221 got it? 04:11:40 Widget No. 04:11:53 Widget What is a back buffer, and why do you need to flip it? 04:11:55 Patlabor221 this is why I say you need to understand how it works 04:12:02 Patlabor221 I can explainif you want 04:12:07 Widget OK. 04:12:15 Patlabor221 and the peanut gallery will shit there pie holes 04:12:34 Patlabor221 if you say an image is just a chunk of mem 04:12:46 captain_proton shit their pie holes? 04:12:50 Patlabor221 yes 04:12:54 Patlabor221 shit it 04:13:00 Patlabor221 then you can't talk out it 04:13:01 Patlabor221 :) 04:14:13 Patlabor221 widget join #2dimageing4newbs 04:52:09 jimmy anyone here? 04:52:40 molybdenum must change that... 04:53:19 Patlabor221 yes but we are all over talking about 2d imaging 04:53:32 molybzenum ha 04:53:52 molybdenum trying to get that user name... 04:54:18 molybdenum oh, no one owns it 04:54:59 molybdenum I need sleep. For a short period between being alert in standard way and tired I can play very well 04:56:51 luca_ captain_proton: i patched the freebsd port/package, if your interested in it. now works. 05:00:48 Wing_ ahh it worked 05:01:06 Wing_ by the way... who are the moderators for ducati? 05:01:56 captain_proton raises his hand 05:02:08 Wing_ how can i become one? 05:03:11 Wing_ i met this guy today by the name of: Spongebob Spermpants 05:03:17 Wing_ He was killing everyone 05:03:25 jacques he must have been very good 05:03:27 Wing_ and swearing while he was at it 05:03:41 Wing_ by everyone i meant even teammates 05:03:45 jacques lol 05:03:50 jacques was he unhittable too? 05:03:53 Wing_ no 05:03:56 jacques oh 05:03:59 Wing_ not cheating 05:04:08 Wing_ but just being a general ass 05:04:11 jacques well I consider tking cheating 05:04:19 jacques definitely kickable 05:04:23 Wing_ i guess so 05:04:24 Wing_ yep 05:04:34 Wing_ so... is there a way i can get the power to kick? 05:05:23 jacques I'm not an admin anywhere 05:05:33 jacques but I guess you weren't asking me :-) 05:05:43 Wing_ hehe 05:05:49 jacques soon I will have my own server 05:06:05 Wing_ oooo 05:06:24 Wing_ i'll set one up when i go to college (fall 2003) 05:06:31 Wing_ t3 lines:) 05:07:02 captain_proton Wing_: hmm, ask chestal 05:07:17 Wing_ well i guess when he wakes up 05:09:27 Wing_ well late night here 05:09:31 Wing_ cya all 05:11:58 captain_proton Patlabor221_: hmm, SDL_mixer looks like it does everything we want in the sound manager 05:12:04 captain_proton 1 music track + sound effects 05:12:05 captain_proton =} 05:14:42 Wing_ music mixer 05:14:45 Wing_ ooo 05:15:04 Wing_ I play the sax and I am looking for a good sound recorder for windows 05:15:17 Wing_ so i can make better quality songs to put on the web 05:15:25 Wing_ you know of any? 05:15:46 Wing_ (I should have left already! erght) 05:16:36 Patlabor221_ captain_proton: FMod looks good 05:16:46 Patlabor221_ I am amlost done implementing it 05:16:48 Wing_ well I should really leave 05:16:55 Patlabor221_ complete with 3d sounds 05:17:35 Patlabor221_ with full support for streaming and compressed SEs 05:17:38 captain_proton Patlabor221_: does fmod play the music track off disk? because loading it all into memory is a big waste 05:17:46 Patlabor221_ it can do ether 05:18:08 Patlabor221_ I am seting it up to play SEs from memory and BGMS from disk 05:18:25 Patlabor221_ and FMod has support for DSP type effects and reverv 05:18:33 Patlabor221_ and full dopler on it's 3ds 05:18:41 Patlabor221_ it will even use hardware if it can 05:18:55 captain_proton SE and BGM? 05:19:06 Patlabor221_ sound effects 05:19:07 captain_proton ahh, nvm 05:19:08 captain_proton got it 05:21:10 Patlabor221_ let me post my new API header 05:21:53 Patlabor221_ http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/SoundMngr.h 05:23:05 captain_proton ooh, vunterful. my RA this year is a sophomore CS student 05:23:09 captain_proton in his second year 05:23:22 captain_proton meaning he probably knows just enough C++ to hurt himself 05:24:52 jacques heading home 05:30:13 Patlabor221_ must.... 05:30:15 Patlabor221_ go.... 05:30:17 Patlabor221_ home..... 05:47:23 captain_proton yaay 05:47:26 patlabor221 ? 05:47:27 captain_proton shaving was painless 05:47:43 captain_proton and my teeth have just about finished their shifting, meaning i can put pressure on my teeth 05:48:53 captain_proton hmm, i have wanted a hot dog for days 05:48:58 captain_proton perhaps tomorrow i shall have one 05:49:18 patlabor221 they are kinda soft 05:49:32 captain_proton ever since they fell on my foot when i was refilling my ice-snood 05:50:37 captain_proton they are soft, but for a variety of reasons biting down on things wasn't terribly easy 05:51:30 captain_proton hmm, i might even have one tonight =D 05:51:56 captain_proton my parents might be a little confused at me making a hot dog this late 05:54:51 captain_proton hmmmmm 05:54:59 captain_proton i should make a list of things i need with me in the land of bandwidth 05:57:57 captain_proton answering machine, coffee maker, ... 05:58:02 captain_proton chopsticks 05:59:55 captain_proton thinks hard 06:00:07 patlabor221 smells smoke 06:00:14 captain_proton clothes 06:01:47 captain_proton yes, clothes are good 06:03:44 captain_proton continues thinking hard 06:04:03 captain_proton patlabor221: in your sound api - 'push' and 'pull' for a queue? 06:04:08 captain_proton i thought we'd decided on cram and yank 06:04:09 patlabor221 yeah yeah 06:04:31 patlabor221 shove and "crowbar outa there" 06:04:35 patlabor221 I could use that 06:05:02 captain_proton yes, that works too 06:05:15 captain_proton though it does add some programmer overhead 06:05:19 captain_proton ShoveBGM 06:05:21 captain_proton and 06:05:27 captain_proton CrowbarOuttaThereBGM 06:05:34 patlabor221 I'd use _ 06:05:49 captain_proton _? 06:05:52 patlabor221 or "get_the_piss_off" 06:06:36 captain_proton ooh, i found a web site thats perfect for LGE 06:06:40 patlabor221 ? 06:06:52 captain_proton lemme find it 06:07:19 captain_proton http://pimphats.com/002_hats.htm 06:07:52 patlabor221 big daddy purple 06:08:13 patlabor221 that's funny 06:10:09 captain_proton i kinda like 'suga jag daddy red' 06:10:26 patlabor221 to floppy 06:10:38 patlabor221 won't get any respect from the hoos 06:13:44 captain_proton hmm, strange musings over at AO 06:13:51 captain_proton <s0nIc> we're made of stars 06:13:51 captain_proton <souleman> s0nIc>-->thats why you have such a bright personality 06:13:51 captain_proton <Terr> "My god! I'm full of stars!" 06:13:51 captain_proton <Terr> "THERE'S RICK MORANIS!" 06:14:24 patlabor221 interesting 06:18:23 patlabor221 I sleep now 06:43:21 blair prot, you up? 06:43:41 blair how are you guys for implementing a rating system in bzflag? 06:43:58 blair eg. a rule such as "slower tanks for better players"? etc... 07:18:37 bomber moin 09:09:39 newbie67 where to go for for beast wars channel? 09:51:10 akira_ moin 09:54:51 Chestal hi akira 09:55:04 Chestal Tanks schon beschriftet in Roaming? :-) Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot logs, split per channel and by date, etc. 10:22:16Chestalakira: ja 10:22:55akira_Chestal: nein 10:23:59Chestalschade 10:24:58akira_ja 10:25:01akira_schaem 10:51:03[BZ]Ruudihi 10:53:47akira_hi 11:02:08[BZ]Ruudiis it possible to set hotkeys in win to change screen resolutions? 11:28:35MrCooper-workbzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 11:28:59MrCooper-workhmm, where's bzbot? 11:29:37akira_gone 12:23:24akira_moin cell 12:23:27Cell_prog_insecthi 12:23:53Cell_prog_insectjust trying to fix some errors in my collision algorithm 12:24:56Cell_prog_insecti use sphere against triangle collision, sounds easy, but is not if u try to do it efficiently 12:28:14akira_Cell_prog_insect: like always 12:32:03Cell_prog_insect? 12:32:30akira_some algs sound always easy but its hard work to get them VERY fast 12:33:06Cell_prog_insectyes 12:36:48Cell_prog_insectis there a fast html parser available that draws the html file to a bitmap, like ie or netscape does to the screen 12:38:19akira_you want render to a texture? 12:40:06bzgirlhi 12:40:18Cell_prog_insectyes 12:49:01[BZ]Ruudihihi 12:54:36akira_Cell_prog_insect: krass :) 12:55:17akira_Cell_prog_insect: if you want to render real goodlooking stuff try to use the gecko engine from mozilla or take a look at the konqueror render engine 12:58:16Cell_prog_insectare these html renderer 13:08:13akira_these are REAL html/xml browser engines 13:14:42akira_why do you wanne do this stuff? 13:23:23Cell_prog_insecti cant say now, because i dont want to tell until its done, afraid of steeling my idea :) 13:23:34akira_... 13:23:46akira_write it to me on a private channel ... 13:24:14akira_and chances are good i can show you some equivalent in the web ,.. 13:24:22akira_most things are already done .. 14:27:46akira_cu all 15:01:23[BZ]Ruudidamn ducati went down? 15:01:51Chestalhmm, error log says something like 'too many open files' 15:01:54Chestalmayeb I shoudl restart it 15:02:13Chestalbeen running for 42 days 15:02:46bomberaaah 15:02:54[BZ]Ruudii see 15:03:12[BZ]Ruudimaybe that's why Dragon apeard like a cheater...some kind of error..but maybe he just was 15:04:27CLQ-playingdarn 15:04:30bomberalways the same...nr 15:05:40[BZ]Ruudidam ducati got some weird stuff goin' on there 15:06:27CLQ1darned connection 15:08:28Chestalhmm, da stimmt was nicht 15:08:29Chestaloops 15:10:57[BZ]Ruudiducati is back nice 15:11:03Chestalfine 15:27:04bzdougyyythinks: test 15:27:16bzdougyyytest 15:27:20bzdougyyyhmm 15:27:24bzdougyyy# Appears as ANNA 16:13:29bomberbye all 16:23:37Cell_prog_insectma i done the collision and it works great, im that happy about that 16:27:14patlabor221cool 16:51:34Cell_prog_insectand i use nly sphere against triangle collision, and its absolutly sufficient 16:54:07Cell_prog_insectftp://ftp.3dmaileffects.com/pub/FluidStudios/CollisionDetection/Fluid_Studios_Generic_Collision_Detection_for_Games_Using_Ellipsoids.pdf 16:54:14Cell_prog_insectcool article 16:56:36Cell_prog_insecti lost lots of time on thinking how to make an perfect collision detection with bboxes, which is much more diffucult 16:57:31patlabor221that it is 17:00:37Cell_prog_insectnow i did some great BOOL Ops constructing cool tunnels 17:01:44patlabor221arn't there modelers for that? 17:04:17Cell_prog_insectof coz, i do my whole level in 3d max, i wrote a script that exports it all ito my own xml format and then i just load it and play 17:05:54Cell_prog_insectman, i say u that took time, to write the script, but now therefore im a quite comfortable with 3d max script language and objects 17:06:12patlabor221ahh 17:07:01Cell_prog_insectwhat about ur game, do u continue coding it? 17:11:49patlabor221I am working on the new sound manager right now 17:12:08patlabor221with full support for 3d sounds, and music file streaming 17:14:01Cell_prog_insectoh, and what about the other stuff, its already done? 17:14:10patlabor221GL is done 17:14:15patlabor221texture manager is done 17:14:20patlabor221menu manager is done 17:14:28patlabor221world database is almost done 17:14:34patlabor221input is done 17:14:43patlabor221net is done on windows, just needs a port. 17:15:04Cell_prog_insectwow plenty is done, what does texture manager do? 17:15:20patlabor221loads images and binds them into textures 17:15:25Cell_prog_insectah, k 17:15:35patlabor221you give it a folder and it will go get all the pictures in it 17:15:49patlabor221then as you use the texutres it loads them 17:16:00patlabor221so you only load the texutures you use 17:16:15patlabor221and it reads 3 difent file formats so it's nice 17:16:19WidgetHm.. Will the libsdl image loading library load bitmaps? 17:16:33patlabor221it will load PNGs I know 17:16:38patlabor221don't know about BMPs 17:16:45Cell_prog_insectcool does it load tif 17:16:53WidgetThe second tutorial on the website describes loading bmps. 17:16:58patlabor221yes mine loads BMP, tif and my own format 17:17:03WidgetBut it may only work on Windows. 17:17:18patlabor221widget: I am sure they can load a BMP on lin, it's a simple format 17:17:34patlabor221widget just make sure you are not using a windows path 17:17:36Cell_prog_insectmy loads, jpg, png, gif, bmp, raw 17:17:38Cell_prog_insect:) 17:17:51patlabor221I didn't need JPG or gif 17:17:52Widgetpatlabor221: When I installed the libraries, it also installed libjpeg62-dev libpng-dev libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-image1.2-dev libtiff3g-dev 17:17:55Cell_prog_insectbecause i just use the framework c# Bitmap class 17:18:25patlabor221widget: that should load them all 17:18:38patlabor221cell: do any of them support alpha channels? 17:19:36WidgetOooh, they have a Linux executable. 17:20:15patlabor221widget: was my "2d imaging overview 101" understandable? 17:20:20Cell_prog_insectpatlabor221:png does support 8 bit alpha 17:20:35Widgetpatlabor221: Ya, it was really helpful for this tutorial. Thanks. 17:20:57Cell_prog_insectgood for billboards 17:21:11patlabor221cell: only 8 bit ahh. I can use my own format to make a file with as many chanels as I want, and up to 16 bits per chan :) 17:21:32Cell_prog_insectwho needs 16bit alpha? 17:21:33patlabor221cell: and I have a photoshop plugin to export the things :) 17:21:53patlabor221when you want 48 bit color :) 17:22:05patlabor22116 per RGB channel too 17:22:17Cell_prog_insectha, supported by hardware? 17:22:22patlabor221sure 17:22:25patlabor221GL supports it 17:22:35patlabor221don't ever use it tho 17:22:51patlabor221the file format will take 8 or 16 per chanel 17:22:57Cell_prog_insectreally, but i hardly think i need it, what do u need it for? 17:23:05patlabor221no there isn't a need for it 17:23:09WidgetWoooooowww........ this is so cool. 17:23:20patlabor221i just had it as an option so I made sure I supported it 17:23:21Cell_prog_insectwhat? 17:23:29WidgetThe lesson 2 example. :P 17:23:37Cell_prog_insectsound? 17:23:40WidgetNo. 17:23:42patlabor221widget is learning 2d bitmap grpahics 17:23:45WidgetIt just loads two bitmaps. 17:23:53Cell_prog_insectcool 17:24:05WidgetAnd positions them on the back buffer... 17:24:07WidgetAnd then flips it. 17:24:47Cell_prog_insectWidget:url plz? 17:24:53patlabor221what till you get to color keying, then it looks realy neat 17:24:59WidgetCell_prog_insect: http://cone3d.gamedev.net/cgi-bin/index.pl?page=tutorials/gfxsdl/index 17:25:33Cell_prog_insectoh looks good 17:25:46WidgetHe also has a 3D tutorial using OpenGL. 17:26:19Cell_prog_insecti see 17:26:56WidgetHm... he has two functions of the same name... I suppose that's only allowed in C++? 17:27:18Cell_prog_insectand u use c, i suppose 17:27:33WidgetYes... I don't know if it's allowed in ANSI C. 17:27:41Cell_prog_insectnot its not 17:27:41patlabor221widget are they the same exact name? case and all? 17:27:50Widgetpatlabor221: Same name, different arguments. 17:28:01Cell_prog_insectfunction overloading is c++ stuff 17:28:03patlabor221he is using the CPP compiler then 17:28:04Widgetvoid DrawIMG(SDL_Surface *img, int x, int y) and void DrawIMG(SDL_Surface *img, int x, int y, int w, int h, int x2, int y2) 17:28:11patlabor221yup 17:28:18patlabor221use the C++ compiler 17:28:25WidgetWell, it's a cpp file anyway. 17:28:29WidgetSo gcc will compile it as such. 17:28:33patlabor221there you go 17:28:42WidgetWhen writing my version, I'll just rename the second function. 17:29:00patlabor221why won't you use the C++compiler? 17:29:09patlabor221do you like pain and frustration? 17:29:33WidgetBecause I want to learn how to write things in ANSI C, in case that ever becomes necessary. 17:29:44patlabor221tust me, it never ever is 17:29:58patlabor221and you can still use C in the C++ compiler 17:30:25patlabor221un windows, where most of the world does it's stuff, the C++ compiler is allways used, as it makes better code 17:30:49WidgetI know, but then I won't remember what is proper ANSI C and what isn't. 17:30:58patlabor221why? 17:31:08patlabor221think outside the student box 17:31:52Chestalthere's more than one ISO C anyway 17:31:55Chestaloops 17:31:59WidgetIf I ever have to use an ANSI C compiler, I'll probably declare bools and other variables wherevre I choose and then I'll have to go move them back when the compiler errors out. 17:31:59Chestalargls 17:32:04Chestalnetwork too slow error 17:32:21patlabor221when it comes to that, then you fix it 17:32:23Chestalthere's a new C standard, only a few years old 17:32:31patlabor221if it ever comes to that 17:32:31jpabloC99 has bools. 17:32:37WidgetYes, it allows stuff like C++ style comments, right? 17:32:42patlabor221but right now, you are hurintg yourslef 17:32:48ChestalC99 has several features which are not in C++ 17:32:53WidgetWell, function overloading is just confusing! 17:32:54patlabor221like? 17:33:06patlabor221no it's not 17:33:21patlabor221compiler knows what one you use by it's paramaters 17:33:25patlabor221simple as that 17:33:30WidgetIt's confusing to me. 17:33:40WidgetOh, yes, I was wondering what algorithm xchat uses to determine the colour of nicks.... since patlabor221 is always yellow, Cell_prog_insect is always green, Chestal is always teal... 17:33:44jpabloyou want to talk about confusing thing: talk about operator overloading :P 17:33:49WidgetOh, and jpablo is always purple. 17:33:59WidgetAnd multiple inheritance! 17:34:13patlabor221mutliple inheritace is confusing 17:34:20patlabor221but you don't have to use it 17:34:24Cell_prog_insectand virtual inheritance, im glad i forgot what it was 17:34:27WidgetBut other people will! 17:34:32patlabor221yes 17:34:35WidgetThose evil people who use gotos? 17:34:46Chestalsoketimes, multiple inheritance is the best way to solve a problem 17:34:46WidgetChestal: What features does C99 have that are not in C++? 17:34:48patlabor221I use derived classes all the time 17:34:52patlabor221yeah it can be 17:35:08ChestalWidget: I am not very familiar with C99, but I am sure there are a couple 17:35:13patlabor221when doing framework stuff it can be helpfull 17:35:21ChestalI thnk variable sized arrays, complex nubers as a basic data type 17:35:22WidgetWell, rarely... Just like K&R mention that gotos have a use when getting out of really nested loops. 17:35:28WidgetOooooh. 17:35:50patlabor221see you should never get into thos realy nested loops 17:35:51WidgetDoes gcc 3.2 support C99? 17:36:01patlabor221that's why there are things called "functions" 17:36:04ChestalI guess it does, but is not the default 17:36:16Widgethttp://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.0/c99status.html 17:36:23jpabloWidget: just a part. 17:36:26WidgetIt's partially supported. 17:36:50jpablohumm, what's that restricted pointers thingy ? 17:36:53WidgetYes, it doesn't support the variable-length arrays. 17:36:55patlabor221ahhh they added wide characters 17:36:57patlabor221that's nice 17:36:59WidgetOr universal character names. 17:37:23WidgetOoh, a lot more of it is fixed in gcc CVS. 17:37:41patlabor221and they removed the implicid int 17:37:42akira_moin 17:38:04WidgetThey still don't have wide character support, variable-length arrays, complex and imaginary support, etc in CVS. 17:38:06patlabor221and there you go widget: 17:38:06patlabor221mixed declarations and code 17:38:07Chestalthis whole wide character stuff is evil 17:38:14Chestalvery difficult to get all this right 17:38:17WidgetWhat is a wide character? 17:38:25patlabor221well when you have to make your software work in china, then.... 17:38:27Chestala character having more than 8 bits 17:38:32patlabor221double byte characters 17:38:34WidgetOooh. 17:38:37patlabor221unicode stuff 17:38:40WidgetLike Arabic characters. 17:38:44Chestalyou need those for soem of the unicode encodings 17:38:46WidgetEven C++ doesn't have that! 17:38:52patlabor221asin langs 17:38:52Chestalc++ does have it 17:38:57WidgetOh. 17:39:12patlabor221you can make a wide char 17:39:18Chestalalthough the sze of these characters changes ever so foten .-) 17:39:19Cell_prog_insectcom uses it 17:39:25patlabor221yeah it's a pain 17:39:31WidgetJava has it. 17:39:51patlabor221yeah it's need for any real world wide localisation 17:39:51ChestalJava uses one of the Unicode encodings as far as I know 17:40:00ChestalI forgot the name, it's all a little confusing 17:40:14ChestalI thnk Java used 16bit, that's not enough for a flat unicode space though 17:40:20Chestalnowadays you need 32bit 17:41:00Widgetcpp has limited support for multibyte character sets. 17:41:12jpablohumm, 32bits chars will be over kill, but we need it :) 17:41:28Chestalwell, the 16bit were ful some time ago 17:41:31WidgetBecause of all those imaginary scripts people keep thinking up! 17:41:44Chestalso they started adding several planes to Unicode, all a little strange 17:42:25akira_32bit char?? for what? 17:42:42Chestalakira: to be able to address all unicode characters 17:43:11Chestal20 or 21bit might be enough actually 17:43:42akira_how much unicode characters are there? 17:45:17paulj32bit character set iirc. not sure if all are allocated though. 17:45:18jpabloa lot. 17:45:26pauljsorry. 31bit. 17:45:39Widgethttp://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/tengwar.html 17:45:43WidgetUnicode proposal! 17:45:44ChestalI think they included things for musical notation etc. 17:45:57akira_ok, cya all 17:46:01WidgetThey included stuff f¡or the stuff in that website! 17:46:02WidgetBye, akira_. 17:47:08Widgethttp://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/ <-- Look at all these unicode proposals 17:47:12patlabor221now this is a long if 17:47:16patlabor221if (FSOUND_GetCurrentSample(_m_SoundEntList[iSoundEntID].iChannel) == _m_SampleList[_m_SoundEntList[iSoundEntID].rInfo.iSampleID].pHandle) 17:47:31WidgetEep. 17:47:39patlabor221and that is just testing 2 things 17:47:45patlabor221to see if they are equal 17:48:38WidgetLook at all those frivolous scripts that have been registered. 17:50:11Widget" 17:50:12WidgetThe Seuss script is an extension of the Latin alphabet, proposed by Dr Seuss (Theodor Geisel) in his children's book On Beyond Zebra (New York: Random House, 1955; ISBN 0-394-80084-2)." 17:50:24WidgetI remember that book. 17:50:36viperman973hello 17:50:47viperman973can anyone help me 17:50:50patlabor221we can try 17:51:13viperman973i can print my documents because the network is down 17:51:27patlabor221that I don't think we can help with 17:51:49viperman973how do get it back up because it keep saying password 17:51:54viperman973expired 17:52:09patlabor221well 1) whos' net is it? 17:52:15patlabor2212) what OS is it? 17:52:40viperman973i have me while the other is 2000 17:52:51viperman973don't understand 1 17:53:07patlabor221it is your own private network? 17:53:12viperman973yes 17:53:15patlabor221and I asume you mean windows 200 17:53:19patlabor221sorry 2000 17:53:32viperman973i have me while the other is 2000 17:53:33patlabor221do you have a domain controller? 17:53:40viperman973whats that 17:53:46patlabor221I'll take that as a no 17:54:14patlabor221on the 2000 machine you need to update your account and make it so that your password dosnt' expire 17:54:15viperman973i think everything is set up but just a password is preventing the computers 17:54:21patlabor221yeah 17:54:38viperman973because i accidently said stop sharing 17:54:39patlabor221use the user manager on the 2000 machine to make your account not have it's pass expire 17:54:48patlabor221it's a setting for each user account 17:55:07viperman973huh 17:55:10Cell_prog_insectme i think its windows millenium 17:55:20patlabor221it is 17:55:23viperman973yeah 17:55:25patlabor221but me don't have the account manger 17:55:27patlabor2212k does 17:55:33patlabor221that's where his pass expired 17:55:36Cell_prog_insectyes 17:55:38patlabor221is the printer on the 2k machine? 17:55:43viperman973yes 17:55:48patlabor221then go to the 2k machine 17:55:56patlabor221and open the users controol panel 17:56:01viperman973ok 17:56:03patlabor221then find your acccount 17:56:07patlabor221and edit it's options 17:56:19patlabor221there is a check box that says "password never expires" 17:56:21patlabor221turn it on 17:56:26patlabor221then reboot the ME machine 17:56:26viperman973i can go to it but i won't get through 17:56:39patlabor221then you need to login as admin 17:56:49patlabor221Proalby Admiminstrator 17:56:53patlabor221with no password 17:57:12Cell_prog_insectnever seen that 17:57:37patlabor221seen what? 17:57:42patlabor221an account expire? 17:57:50Cell_prog_insectAdministrator with no password 17:57:59patlabor221that's the defalut for most installs 17:58:08viperman973well i just tried connecting but it says my password expired 17:58:12WidgetHow.... scary. 17:58:32patlabor221so you can't log into the 2k machine even localy 17:58:39viperman973no 17:58:53patlabor221what usrename do you use when you log in localy? 17:59:20patlabor221is it administator or something else 17:59:47viperman973i just connect, it does ask 17:59:58patlabor221so it logs in then? 18:00:05patlabor221and you can see the desktop 18:00:18patlabor221and the start menu? 18:00:34viperman973no it says cartier 18:00:40patlabor221thre you go 18:00:45patlabor221change that to adminstator 18:00:46viperman973first and then i press ok 18:00:56patlabor221that is your username 18:01:02patlabor221your pass is nothing then 18:01:05patlabor221ok 18:01:25patlabor221I take it that the 2k machine is not yours 18:01:34viperman973yes 18:01:54patlabor221do you know what the admin account on the 2000 machine is? 18:01:56viperman973i log off now 18:02:20viperman973both is unde mshome 18:02:30viperman973under mshome 18:02:30patlabor221both what? 18:02:45patlabor221find who set up the 2000 mahcine 18:02:53patlabor221have them log into it localy 18:02:58patlabor221hav them fix your account 18:02:59viperman973ok 18:03:03patlabor221then it will be all better 18:03:18viperman973wait i going to try something 18:04:52patlabor221he is sooo screwed 18:06:21viperman973hey 18:06:38viperman973got another problem, the guy won't come 18:06:40patlabor221lunch 18:06:45viperman973because its fixed 18:06:46viperman973thanx man 18:54:37Chestalhi tank 18:54:47tankmannhowdy 18:55:11tankmannich hab ja ewig nicht gespielt.. 18:55:21tankmannund ich scheine nicht der einzige zu sein 18:55:27tankmannin der liga laeuft ja garnix mehr 18:55:32Chestaljo, lider 18:55:34Chestaleh, leider 18:55:41ChestalZees haben nen neuen SPieler 18:56:07tankmanncool, den badass 18:56:11Chestalich war die Tage mal auf so nem 1-shot-server, zwar mit jumping und lag, aber trotzdem ganz lustig nochmal 18:56:33tankmannwow, harte kombination 18:57:49Chestaloch jo, war zumindest am Anfang gut, da laggte es noch net so sehr 18:58:01Chestalund die Leute sind bei 1 Schuss trotzdem staednig zum Ausweichen gesprungen 18:58:12Chestaldabei wird man da doch bestenfalls im Nahkampf getroffen, wenn man etwas aufpasst 18:58:31Chestalhatte so 40-3 Punkte oder so :-), spaeter aber net mehr leider 18:58:42Chestalsteamroller ist da auch ne sehr maechtige Waffe 18:58:43tankmannis ja dreist 19:00:01Chestalvielleicht ist das jetzt der rchtige Zeitpunkt, um 1-1 mal anzukurben 19:00:23Chestalallerdings scheinen die Leute, die an den Webseiten basteln (allen voran Valoche) wohl z.Z. gar nicht dazusein 19:01:35tankmannauch von den deutschen sind bestimmt viele im urlaub oder so.. 19:01:56tankmannmachst du auch mal urlaub? 19:02:01Chestalnoe 19:02:14Chestalich war letztes Jahr schon fast ne Woche weg 19:03:47tankmannsalut lupi 19:04:37lupinatormerhaba 19:08:02lupinatorChestal: machen wir halt mal team urlaub 19:11:58tankmannich spiel ein mal ein wenig 19:42:37[BZ]Ruudihia 19:42:56tankmanni g 20:35:16w339hi all 23:03:01Nicole3hi ppl 23:10:31sussudiolooks for ppl 23:13:43ppl was last seen on #bzflag 144 days, 6 hours, 19 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: Chestal is it in the fbsd ports? [Sun Mar 31 17:54:39 2002] 23:13:43jacquesibot: seen ppl 23:13:55jacquesI think you missed him 23:14:09WidgetBy nearly half a year. 23:14:22Widgetis reading a really sad book. :'( 23:14:45sussudioWidget: michael jackson's biography? 23:14:56WidgetPfft. 23:15:02jacqueslol 23:15:37captain_protonwhat book? 23:15:53WidgetAnimal Dreams. 23:15:59WidgetBy Barbara Kingsolver. 23:16:09WidgetI think her more recent book "The Poisonwood Bible" is more famous. 23:16:46Nicole3ppl=people 23:19:04WidgetWhat did happen in Nicaragua in 1990? 23:22:25sussudioWidget: i bet someone ate a banana 23:23:10sussudioin that perspective, nicaragua and the USA are very similar 23:23:26Widget... 23:25:38sussudioSettled as a colony of Spain in the 1520s, Nicaragua gained its independence in 1821. Violent opposition to governmental manipulation and corruption spread to all classes by 1978 and resulted in a short-lived civil war that brought the Marxist Sandinista guerrillas to power in 1979. Nicaraguan aid to leftist rebels in El Salvador caused the US to sponsor anti-Sandinista contra guerrillas through much of the 1980s. Free elections in 1990 and again in 1 23:25:51sussudiosee? 23:26:24WidgetSo the contras won? 23:27:18sussudiono 23:40:13bryjenbzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 23:40:14bzbotServer is empty 23:53:25sussudiocan anyone tell me why i have to aim to the left of an object to hit it in the middle? 23:59:06paulis the object moving at 180 or 0 to you? 23:59:42paulif not - well that's called leading the target (plus you have to account for lag - ie lead more)
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`00:36:16`	`jimmy`	`hello`
`01:17:57`	`ski`	`hi all`
`01:41:41`	`luca_`	`someone here?`
`01:42:24`	`luca_`	`i tried to run bzflag in freebsd using the linux emulation: it doesn't work. x crashes.`
`01:43:44`	`luca_`	`it crashed again :-)`
`01:44:46`	`sussudio`	`anyone else got DoS'ed by jzaun?`
`01:46:31`	`Patlabor221`	`seems that there's allways problems with that one`
`01:49:56`	`luca_`	`is there some option to disable something to obtain bzflag working in freebsd?`
`01:50:48`	`Patlabor221`	`I have not heard of anyone geting it to work in BSD`
`01:50:58`	`Patlabor221`	`adn the port does not fully work`
`01:51:12`	`Patlabor221`	`or so that is what cap tells me`
`01:53:39`	`luca_`	`can someone tell me if i exited regularly?`
`01:53:50`	`Patlabor221`	`luca_ has quit (Remote closed the connection)`
`01:54:13`	`luca_`	`ok...x didn't crash`
`01:54:33`	`luca_`	`the kernel gave it a sighend signal`
`01:54:48`	`luca_`	`so the problem is the linux emulation in the freebsd kernel`
`01:54:52`	`luca_`	`damn`
`01:56:20`	`Patlabor221`	`well I am not an expert on the things`
`01:56:39`	`bzdoug`	`do linksys wireless cards work in powerbooks?`
`01:56:52`	`Patlabor221`	`are there mac drivers for it?`
`01:57:26`	`bzdoug`	`nope, but the linksys PC Cards for ethernet work fine`
`01:57:42`	`bzdoug`	`but the card stays off when I plug it in`
`01:58:31`	`bzdoug`	`hmmm`
`01:59:13`	`bzdoug`	`the cards keeps blinkin the link lightn`
`01:59:41`	`Patlabor221`	`you are gonna need some soft to donfig the wireless`
`01:59:56`	`Patlabor221`	`it can't find the wireless host then`
`02:00:17`	`bzdoug`	`hmm`
`02:00:25`	`bzdoug`	`I configured it through USB`
`02:00:31`	`bzdoug`	`on another comp`
`02:00:44`	`bzdoug`	`but my laptop has allways been, wierd, sorta`
`02:00:53`	`Patlabor221`	`I am realy doubting there are drivers for that on mac then man`
`02:01:07`	`Patlabor221`	`you need some kind of USB NIC driver`
`02:01:08`	`bzdoug`	`hrm`
`02:01:12`	`bzdoug`	`well`
`02:01:18`	`bzdoug`	`now I am trying it on the PC laptop`
`02:01:28`	`bzdoug`	`and nothin..`
`02:01:46`	`Patlabor221`	`do you have another wireless device there?`
`02:01:51`	`bzdoug`	`hmm`
`02:01:52`	`Patlabor221`	`like a WAP or a router?`
`02:02:09`	`bzdoug`	`I have one (1) AP and one (1) PC card`