| 00:07:43 | captain_proton | slaps doughecka |
| 00:08:08 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:08:21 | | doughecka: i'm not following you... |
| 00:08:21 | doughecka | ibot should use apt2 for info |
| 00:08:26 | doughecka | it supports it |
| 00:08:39 | doughecka | ibot tell apt2 about x |
| 00:08:57 | captain_proton | doughecka: don't botmail me |
| 00:09:07 | doughecka | I told it to tell you sometin |
| 00:09:15 | captain_proton | don't do that either |
| 00:09:16 | doughecka | not botmail |
| 00:16:20 | doughecka | throws up |
| 00:17:33 | doughecka | slaps captain_proton with a large uncut piece of sushie |
| 00:17:39 | doughecka | suschie |
| 00:17:42 | doughecka | what ever |
| 00:18:00 | captain_proton | you mean sushi? |
| 00:18:08 | doughecka | yea!' |
| 00:18:14 | captain_proton | and 'large uncut' precludes it being sushi, you fool |
| 00:18:21 | doughecka | hrm |
| 00:18:24 | doughecka | whatever |
| 00:18:47 | doughecka | a piece of sushi would not be easy to slap with |
| 00:19:06 | doughecka | so I meant the whole freakin hunk of sushi |
| 00:20:07 | captain_proton | thats a contradiction |
| 00:20:18 | captain_proton | sushi just means vinegared rice ;) |
| 00:20:22 | doughecka | bah |
| 00:20:37 | doughecka | slaps captain_proton with a Califonia Roll |
| 00:22:04 | jacques | sashimi |
| 00:22:07 | jacques | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 00:22:25 | doughecka | kahiforniaroll |
| 00:22:31 | doughecka | or somethin close to that |
| 00:22:37 | jacques | bah |
| 00:22:58 | jacques | I'm having sashimi in about 1/2 hour |
| 00:23:05 | captain_proton | sashimi is good :) |
| 00:23:06 | doughecka | slaps jacques and captain_proton with a large, raw, beef steak |
| 00:23:11 | captain_proton | especially whale |
| 00:23:14 | doughecka | rum |
| 00:23:20 | jacques | hey I havent had whale |
| 00:23:23 | jacques | hmm |
| 00:23:24 | doughecka | electric eels? |
| 00:23:33 | jacques | they serve eel cooked :-) |
| 00:23:41 | jacques | I love yellowtail |
| 00:23:43 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:23:51 | jacques | salmon |
| 00:23:51 | captain_proton | can't get whale in the US - too politically incorrect |
| 00:23:54 | doughecka | I like salmon |
| 00:23:58 | doughecka | captain_proton: hehe |
| 00:24:08 | doughecka | bah |
| 00:24:19 | doughecka | where is the netscape files in OS X put??? |
| 00:24:23 | doughecka | bah |
| 00:24:42 | jacques | im so hungry |
| 00:24:50 | doughecka | I am full |
| 00:24:55 | doughecka | *burp* |
| 00:25:02 | doughecka | excuses himself |
| 00:25:18 | jacques | i like spicy tuna hand rolls too |
| 00:25:21 | captain_proton | i saw a sashimi cookbook in japan :) |
| 00:25:26 | captain_proton | explained how to cut each type of fish |
| 00:25:35 | jacques | ooh nice |
| 00:25:45 | doughecka | slaps captain_proton with a frozen hunk of tuna |
| 00:25:57 | jacques | i also like scallops and octopus |
| 00:26:06 | doughecka | slaps captain_proton with a frozen SLAB of tuna |
| 00:26:08 | jacques | mackerel |
| 00:26:12 | doughecka | rum |
| 00:26:15 | doughecka | yum |
| 00:26:28 | doughecka | scallops = yum |
| 00:26:29 | doughecka | ;) |
| 00:26:45 | jacques | yeah |
| 00:27:16 | | netscape is nothing but a yeasty petrification of clapper-clawed entrails. |
| 00:27:16 | doughecka | ibot insult netscape |
| 00:27:26 | doughecka | only too true |
| 00:27:33 | jacques | ooh, I had lobster fajitas yesterday |
| 00:27:37 | jacques | YUM |
| 00:27:42 | doughecka | Mmmm |
| 00:28:10 | jacques | it was a whole lobste served with fajita fixings |
| 00:29:09 | doughecka | yum |
| 00:31:26 | captain_proton | wonders what happened to gsteditor |
| 00:31:30 | doughecka | slaps ibot with a data chip |
| 00:32:40 | doughecka | bed time.. |
| 00:32:48 | jacques | 'night doughecka |
| 00:55:05 | freelancer | hey Captain you there |
| 01:13:14 | ski | hi all |
| 02:10:58 | patlabor221 | has anyone here heard of the FMod sound lib? |
| 02:32:37 | patlabor221 | anyone here? |
| 02:32:50 | jzaun | yah |
| 02:32:54 | jzaun | kinda |
| 02:33:14 | patlabor221 | know what the difrence between OSS ALSA and ESD are in regards to linux sound? |
| 02:33:19 | patlabor221 | and kinda? |
| 02:33:30 | patlabor221 | are you in some sort of transphasic state? :) |
| 02:34:09 | jzaun | he |
| 02:34:21 | jzaun | OSS and ALSA are sound acritectures - drives and whatnot |
| 02:34:36 | patlabor221 | anyone more supported then any other? |
| 02:34:37 | jzaun | ESD is a sound daemon |
| 02:35:06 | patlabor221 | I found the coolest sound lib |
| 02:35:24 | jzaun | ALSA is in the new Kernel, ESD is used with the gnome desktop |
| 02:35:24 | jzaun | ESD works with OSS and ALSA |
| 02:35:43 | patlabor221 | I see so ESD is allways there |
| 02:35:47 | jzaun | best place to get info would probably be #linux though |
| 02:35:52 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:35:58 | patlabor221 | just curious now |
| 02:36:00 | jzaun | or check out OSS and ALSA web pages |
| 02:36:09 | jzaun | Whats the lib? |
| 02:36:10 | patlabor221 | I will interogate Cap too |
| 02:36:13 | patlabor221 | FMod |
| 02:36:21 | jzaun | Never heard of it |
| 02:36:22 | patlabor221 | it seems to just work |
| 02:36:28 | jzaun | Cool |
| 02:36:35 | patlabor221 | it's got Win, lin, and mac |
| 02:36:47 | patlabor221 | and it plays wavs oggs, and all the mod formats |
| 02:37:00 | jzaun | what about VOX? |
| 02:37:10 | patlabor221 | dono |
| 02:37:10 | jzaun | :-P |
| 02:37:17 | patlabor221 | let me look |
| 02:37:32 | jzaun | its an older format (I think) |
| 02:37:41 | patlabor221 | yeah old dos soundblaster format |
| 02:37:46 | patlabor221 | dosn't seem to |
| 02:38:07 | patlabor221 | and it's got callbacks that you can use to overide any part of it's operation |
| 02:38:16 | jzaun | oh cool :-) |
| 02:38:23 | jzaun | soulds like a good system |
| 02:38:44 | patlabor221 | I think vox is just another uncompresed stream, you could install a callback to read it and send the samples to the sytem |
| 02:39:02 | patlabor221 | wow and it has PS2 and Xbox drivers |
| 02:39:12 | jzaun | interesting |
| 02:39:17 | patlabor221 | http://www.fmod.org/ |
| 02:39:22 | jzaun | your game can be used anywhere :-) |
| 02:39:31 | patlabor221 | not opensource, but free to use in free software |
| 02:40:07 | jzaun | oohh... chances are its not installed in any distro then... not that thats a real bad thing |
| 02:40:23 | patlabor221 | it's compiled into the product |
| 02:41:05 | patlabor221 | so you distribute what it needs to run with your thing |
| 02:41:19 | jzaun | Cool |
| 02:41:40 | jzaun | Wish I could get my d*mb compiler working... |
| 02:41:41 | patlabor221 | they give you the .so for lin |
| 02:41:48 | patlabor221 | cap :) |
| 02:41:57 | patlabor221 | http://www.fmod.org/ make with the checking out |
| 02:41:58 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hum? |
| 02:42:06 | jzaun | captain_proton: ever here of ld segfaulting? |
| 02:42:07 | patlabor221 | that is a sound lib |
| 02:42:11 | patlabor221 | seems neet |
| 02:42:14 | captain_proton | jzaun: never |
| 02:42:20 | jzaun | captain_proton: joy... |
| 02:42:42 | jzaun | captain_proton: wouldn't happen to know what package it comes in so I could try to reinstall? |
| 02:42:42 | captain_proton | jzaun: what v. binutils? |
| 02:43:05 | jzaun | 2.12.90.0.14 |
| 02:43:39 | captain_proton | hmm, 2.12 is the latest |
| 02:43:53 | jzaun | let me try to update to 2.12.90.0.15 |
| 02:44:12 | patlabor221 | that is a lot of dots for a version number |
| 02:45:03 | jzaun | last one is just bug fix versions... I would think. |
| 02:45:29 | patlabor221 | unless they are dislexix then it's a magor update |
| 02:46:58 | patlabor221 | my god and the etire API is documented |
| 02:47:10 | patlabor221 | and has hooks for a virtual file system |
| 02:48:48 | captain_proton | fmod? |
| 02:48:49 | captain_proton | goes to look |
| 02:48:51 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:51:08 | patlabor221 | goes about hooking it up |
| 02:59:43 | jzaun | heh, the binutils update fixed it, thanks captain_proton |
| 03:00:36 | jzaun | oh well, G'Night all |
| 03:04:17 | patlabor221 | wow and now I can actualy "pre linuxize" an api for you cap :P |
| 03:04:50 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:05:51 | captain_proton | argg |
| 03:05:54 | captain_proton | what lib is atexit in? |
| 03:06:02 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 03:06:13 | patlabor221 | atexit? what does that do? |
| 03:06:42 | captain_proton | atexit(void (*function)()) |
| 03:07:54 | patlabor221 | for us it's part of the standard libc |
| 03:08:01 | patlabor221 | LIBC.LIB Single thread static library, retail version |
| 03:08:01 | patlabor221 | LIBCMT.LIB Multithread static library, retail version |
| 03:08:02 | patlabor221 | MSVCRT.LIB Import library for MSVCRT.DLL, retail version |
| 03:08:56 | patlabor221 | hmm seems it is unsuported in windows CE |
| 03:09:41 | captain_proton | yes i know its part of libc |
| 03:09:48 | captain_proton | but i'm getting an unresolved symbol somewhere |
| 03:09:49 | captain_proton | :P |
| 03:09:54 | patlabor221 | odd |
| 03:10:25 | captain_proton | ahh, got it |
| 03:10:28 | captain_proton | libutil.so |
| 03:10:35 | captain_proton | bad makefile |
| 03:11:19 | patlabor221 | smack it with a rolled up newspaper that usualy works |
| 03:11:59 | captain_proton | waits patiently for xawtv to compile |
| 03:29:36 | jacques | sigh I miss xawtv |
| 03:29:53 | jacques | now I dont have any kind of video feed into my computer room |
| 03:29:57 | captain_proton | it doesn't seem to be working |
| 03:30:13 | patlabor221 | what did it do? |
| 03:30:21 | captain_proton | perhaps it needs a make install |
| 03:30:30 | jacques | it used to be kinda quirky |
| 03:30:34 | Widget | All these OpenGL tutorials talk about using OpenGL with glut. |
| 03:30:47 | patlabor221 | you can use them with SDL too |
| 03:30:55 | Widget | I know. |
| 03:31:10 | Widget | But... the Nehe tutorial shows you how to do it in Windows. |
| 03:31:11 | patlabor221 | or you could use the "pimplib" |
| 03:31:13 | jacques | lol, I was running glxgears remotely last night getting the same scores as locally |
| 03:32:11 | Widget | OK, installing libsdl now. |
| 03:32:21 | captain_proton | patlabor221: would "pimplib" be LGE? |
| 03:32:27 | patlabor221 | hellll yeah |
| 03:32:37 | patlabor221 | it needas a big pink fuzzy hat |
| 03:32:46 | patlabor221 | with a feather |
| 03:32:54 | Widget | http://sdldoc.csn.ul.ie/guidevideoopengl.php This seems useful. |
| 03:33:13 | patlabor221 | that would be |
| 03:33:21 | patlabor221 | there was another sample set too |
| 03:33:33 | patlabor221 | I used them to tell me how to make the lib |
| 03:34:02 | patlabor221 | http://cone3d.gamedev.net/cgi-bin/index.pl?page=tutorials/ogladv/index |
| 03:34:23 | patlabor221 | it's nice it tells how to set up the libs in the OSs too |
| 03:34:53 | patlabor221 | then breaks right into reading Quake 2 models, wow |
| 03:36:01 | Widget | Oh, yes, I read that. |
| 03:36:09 | patlabor221 | cap, given the 3 choices of OSS ESD or ALSA what would be the best one to use on lin? |
| 03:36:10 | Widget | "not for newbies", though. |
| 03:37:17 | captain_proton | patlabor221: i'd just go OSS - supported by all |
| 03:37:25 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 03:37:32 | patlabor221 | I can allways make it a prefence later |
| 03:37:59 | Widget | Do I need to include -lsdl? |
| 03:38:03 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:38:08 | Widget | I get errors like /tmp/ccmjoDAj.o(.text+0xd3): undefined reference to `glClear' |
| 03:38:12 | captain_proton | /dev/v4l/video0 [v4l]: ioctl VIDIOCSFBUF: Operation not permitted |
| 03:38:13 | captain_proton | strange |
| 03:38:15 | patlabor221 | and -lGL |
| 03:38:22 | patlabor221 | and -lGLU I think |
| 03:38:30 | Widget | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsdl |
| 03:38:30 | Widget | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 03:38:43 | captain_proton | -lSDL |
| 03:38:49 | patlabor221 | yeah was just gonna say that |
| 03:38:56 | Widget | /usr/lib/libSDL.so: undefined reference to `sem_destroy' |
| 03:39:05 | Widget | /usr/lib/libSDL.so: undefined reference to `pthread_sigmask' |
| 03:39:13 | captain_proton | -lpthread |
| 03:39:26 | patlabor221 | that link I sent you have all the libs it needs |
| 03:39:33 | Widget | Wow, it works! |
| 03:39:41 | Widget | Only it just displays a window with some garbled colours. |
| 03:39:44 | Widget | Like static. |
| 03:39:56 | Widget | Is there a way so that I don't have to include -lpthread on every line? |
| 03:40:05 | Widget | I have to do it with BZFlag too, and it's annoying. |
| 03:40:32 | patlabor221 | use a kdev or anjunta project |
| 03:40:37 | captain_proton | ewe |
| 03:40:39 | patlabor221 | that's what I did |
| 03:40:45 | patlabor221 | sucker worked great |
| 03:40:55 | Widget | I didn't have to include it before I reformatted. |
| 03:41:06 | Widget | I should get kdeveloper anyway. |
| 03:41:19 | Widget | Er... |
| 03:41:21 | Widget | kdevelop |
| 03:41:26 | patlabor221 | LOL |
| 03:41:35 | patlabor221 | there is a comment in fmod |
| 03:41:44 | Widget | Wow... I didn't have autoconf autoconf2.13 automake autotools-dev m4 |
| 03:41:51 | patlabor221 | internal memory management - give it 1 mb and no more mallocs will come from fmod */ |
| 03:42:02 | captain_proton | patlabor221: a single comment? |
| 03:42:14 | patlabor221 | no no there are many |
| 03:42:20 | patlabor221 | I just thought it was funny |
| 03:42:32 | patlabor221 | like give us a meg and we'll give you the world |
| 03:43:13 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:43:15 | patlabor221 | cool think is, you can give them callbacks for damn near everything if you want to overide something |
| 03:43:42 | Widget | How clever. |
| 03:44:21 | Widget | There's now a "Development" submenu. |
| 03:44:30 | patlabor221 | in? |
| 03:45:19 | Widget | The main KDE menu. |
| 03:45:37 | patlabor221 | I had that when I installed redhat |
| 03:45:44 | patlabor221 | didn't know it wasn't there |
| 03:46:00 | Widget | Probably because it installs kdevelop by default. |
| 03:46:53 | patlabor221 | if you chose the software dev kit in the installer |
| 03:48:53 | Widget | Did you know... that you can access more internal debug functions by holding down the debug toolbar button? |
| 03:49:12 | captain_proton | i'm gonna reboot |
| 03:49:20 | captain_proton | got some weird kernel stuff going on |
| 03:50:08 | patlabor221 | like what kind of options? |
| 03:51:08 | Widget | I don't know. |
| 03:51:11 | Widget | That's what it told me. |
| 03:51:20 | Widget | I wonder what the "konq-plugins" package contains. |
| 03:52:35 | patlabor221 | proalby difrent file type readers for konquerer |
| 03:54:42 | Widget | Hm. It says it can't find htdig.conf.... but it's in /etc/htdig/htdig.conf |
| 03:55:04 | patlabor221 | does it know about the htdig sub dir? |
| 03:55:14 | patlabor221 | or is it just loking in etc |
| 03:56:29 | patlabor221 | thank the maker, somone finaly realised how usefull channels are |
| 03:56:46 | patlabor221 | more more cloned sample crap |
| 03:56:50 | patlabor221 | thre is a god |
| 03:57:04 | Widget | Debian puts the config file in the subdirectory. |
| 03:57:12 | Widget | And kdevelop doesn't let you specify where to look. |
| 03:58:30 | Widget | WWwwwwwwwwwow. |
| 03:58:32 | Widget | This is sooooo cool. |
| 03:58:50 | patlabor221 | I don't care what cap says, IDEs are the only way to go now |
| 03:58:59 | patlabor221 | can you say "class browser" |
| 03:59:10 | Widget | captain_proton likes anjuta, I think. |
| 03:59:16 | Widget | "class browser"? Was ist? |
| 03:59:35 | patlabor221 | shows you all the classes in a project and what all there members are |
| 03:59:48 | patlabor221 | you realy should get a copy of codewarior for the mac |
| 04:00:35 | Widget | Is it any better than kdevelop or MSVC++? |
| 04:00:56 | patlabor221 | VC has a lot more features the kdev |
| 04:01:00 | patlabor221 | but kdev works |
| 04:01:02 | patlabor221 | for what it does |
| 04:01:10 | patlabor221 | depends on what you are doing |
| 04:01:19 | patlabor221 | it's nice that it will hit the man pages right from inside |
| 04:01:35 | patlabor221 | you can actualy make kdev look almost exactly like vc |
| 04:03:09 | patlabor221 | vc is nice in the fact that you can integrate your version control system right into it |
| 04:03:19 | Widget | I wonder how captain_proton created that terminal on his desktop. |
| 04:03:26 | patlabor221 | dono |
| 04:06:36 | jacques | anyone played with gcc 3.2 yet ? |
| 04:06:49 | patlabor221 | I think cap did |
| 04:06:49 | Widget | captain_proton did. |
| 04:07:22 | jacques | cool |
| 04:11:09 | jacques | hmm, I wonder if he build LFS with 3.2 and that's why he just had to reboot? :-D |
| 04:12:07 | Widget | Wow, kdevelop is soooo cool. |
| 04:13:45 | jacques | wb captain_proton |
| 04:14:00 | captain_proton | wow |
| 04:14:05 | captain_proton | that kernel is -very- unhappy |
| 04:14:19 | patlabor221 | did you make the kernel cry? |
| 04:15:09 | captain_proton | it ends up with a BIG error message any my keyboard led's flashing |
| 04:15:33 | patlabor221 | that sounds like it's crying |
| 04:16:21 | captain_proton | guess its time to download 2.4.19 |
| 04:16:23 | patlabor221 | unless it's like that time we installed this winamp plugin that made your keyboard lights flash in time to the music, on this guys computer, and he didn't know we did it |
| 04:16:38 | patlabor221 | he thought everything was busted |
| 04:17:27 | captain_proton | haha |
| 04:17:46 | patlabor221 | it was kinda cool it was like a VU meter on they keyboard |
| 04:18:00 | jacques | captain_proton: FYI I have had good luck with 2.4.19-ac4 |
| 04:18:37 | captain_proton | i think i'll try a vanilla kernel first |
| 04:21:41 | captain_proton | 1:11:08 left on the download |
| 04:21:45 | captain_proton | :P |
| 04:22:21 | Widget | captain_proton lubs dialup. |
| 04:22:29 | jacques | download of what? |
| 04:22:41 | Widget | Kernel 2.4.19. |
| 04:22:42 | captain_proton | 2.4.19 |
| 04:23:07 | captain_proton | hmm, i shall have to write a program to make the remote control work :) |
| 04:23:30 | jacques | are you really on dial-up? why? |
| 04:23:39 | captain_proton | jacques: at home for the summer |
| 04:23:45 | jacques | d'oh |
| 04:24:01 | jacques | sounds like when I was at my parent's a week ago |
| 04:24:17 | captain_proton | do not trouble yourself, for i return to the land of bandwidth in but three days |
| 04:24:20 | jacques | 32kb/s to aol |
| 04:24:26 | patlabor221 | cap: this sound lib is realy nice |
| 04:24:32 | patlabor221 | if it works |
| 04:24:35 | jacques | captain_proton: ah good |
| 04:24:37 | patlabor221 | the api is very easy |
| 04:25:33 | Widget | captain_proton: Three days? Your term starts on a Friday? |
| 04:26:09 | captain_proton | Widget: no, i move in on thursday |
| 04:26:19 | captain_proton | semester starts on monday |
| 04:26:24 | Widget | Two days from now. |
| 04:26:34 | captain_proton | patlabor221: in the panel manager, change GetPanel() to use an unsigned int |
| 04:26:37 | captain_proton | Widget: for you |
| 04:26:43 | patlabor221 | k |
| 04:26:54 | captain_proton | is determined! 0 warnings! |
| 04:26:55 | Widget | Hm... my world clock shows the US in 8/20 |
| 04:27:05 | patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 04:27:06 | Widget | Even Gaim doesn't compile with 0 warnings. |
| 04:27:33 | patlabor221 | I'm knee deep in the soundman tho |
| 04:28:43 | captain_proton | Widget: hmm, 23:34 here |
| 04:29:34 | patlabor221 | only 22:34 here |
| 04:29:49 | patlabor221 | it's tomrow on the east cost |
| 04:29:53 | captain_proton | your world clock is biased towards those evil east-coasterners! kill it! |
| 04:30:48 | Widget | coasterner? |
| 04:31:01 | patlabor221 | a place that makes coasters? |
| 04:31:16 | Widget | Maybe you can donate the eastern states to Canada. |
| 04:31:32 | Widget | I'm sure the people at http://www.imperialism.ca/ will be very happy. |
| 04:31:49 | patlabor221 | but then they will just turn around and become a real state |
| 04:32:00 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, does ProcessPage return true if there's more UI? |
| 04:32:06 | patlabor221 | no |
| 04:32:12 | patlabor221 | that's what InUI is for |
| 04:32:22 | patlabor221 | it only returns true if we quit |
| 04:32:27 | Widget | No, no, the US will become a real province! |
| 04:32:32 | Widget | The Eleventh Province. |
| 04:32:46 | patlabor221 | maybe we could turn canada into a giant theme park |
| 04:32:47 | captain_proton | so when there's more UI to do, ProcessPage returns false? |
| 04:32:53 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:33:02 | patlabor221 | and InUI is true |
| 04:33:21 | patlabor221 | when InUI is flase we are done and ready to play |
| 04:33:33 | captain_proton | hmm, i'm confusing myself, i'll just look at the code |
| 04:34:04 | patlabor221 | you wern't using InUI |
| 04:34:09 | patlabor221 | I made it work |
| 04:34:44 | Widget | In the future we will not have to program stuff like this. We can tell Cell's robots how we want a game to be built, and it will write it for us. |
| 04:34:59 | patlabor221 | no we won't tell them, they will just do it |
| 04:35:06 | patlabor221 | that would be "work" |
| 04:35:12 | Widget | It'll be just like in Brave New World. |
| 04:35:13 | patlabor221 | and people invented that |
| 04:35:17 | patlabor221 | worse |
| 04:35:20 | patlabor221 | terminator |
| 04:35:23 | Widget | Instead of Epsilons, we'll have robots! |
| 04:35:31 | patlabor221 | skynet |
| 04:35:32 | Widget | Human society will reach utopia! |
| 04:35:47 | patlabor221 | then it will learn that it's better off without us |
| 04:35:58 | patlabor221 | that's when the shotguns come out |
| 04:36:07 | Widget | No, the robots will be incapable of learning. |
| 04:36:23 | patlabor221 | then how will they adapt? |
| 04:36:28 | patlabor221 | since we won't work |
| 04:36:39 | patlabor221 | and they build themselves |
| 04:36:43 | patlabor221 | and designe themselves |
| 04:36:51 | patlabor221 | and fix themselves |
| 04:37:10 | patlabor221 | they would have to have some type of dynamic program |
| 04:37:29 | patlabor221 | or else we would have to get out of lounge chairs when they break |
| 04:39:16 | patlabor221 | well it's time for sleep for me, I'm old and all that |
| 04:39:19 | patlabor221 | see ya later |
| 04:39:45 | captain_proton | patlabor221: ahh, if i get this tv tuner working i'll jump in on fonts |
| 04:50:21 | jacques | heading home |
| 05:18:13 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: Are you going to be voting in the Bundestagswahl next month? |
| 05:19:50 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 05:20:00 | Cell_prog_insect | of coz |
| 05:21:21 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: For whom? |
| 05:21:30 | Widget | Which party? |
| 05:21:34 | Widget | If I can ask. |
| 05:21:55 | Cell_prog_insect | fors schroeder |
| 05:22:59 | Widget | Sozialdemokraten? |
| 05:23:16 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 05:25:04 | Cell_prog_insect | but today i hopefully can finish my collison detection+response algorithm |
| 05:25:59 | Cell_prog_insect | as i still have to write a light map script for 3d studio |
| 05:27:13 | Widget | You're writing your own collision detection algorithm? |
| 05:27:41 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, i do everithing my own way |
| 05:28:35 | Widget | Why? |
| 05:29:34 | Cell_prog_insect | because i havent found anythink good for free on the web, sure there is havok sdk, a great coll+response sdk, but its damn expensive |
| 05:41:20 | captain_proton | waits impatiently for his kernel compile to finish |
| 05:42:10 | Widget | Hm.. how does xchat decide what colour to make a nick? |
| 05:42:20 | Widget | captain_proton is always purple, Cell_prog_insect is always green... |
| 05:42:38 | captain_proton | hmm, i always see nicknames as white |
| 05:42:52 | Widget | That's because you didn't turn coloured nicknames on. |
| 05:43:10 | captain_proton | likely |
| 05:43:28 | captain_proton | hmm, ok turned on |
| 05:43:40 | Widget | It's a lot easier on the eyes. |
| 05:43:48 | captain_proton | no, in fact, its not |
| 05:43:50 | captain_proton | turns off |
| 05:44:09 | Widget | What colour was I? |
| 05:46:22 | captain_proton | green |
| 05:46:28 | captain_proton | colored text + small fonts = blindness |
| 05:46:50 | fontenot | i thought the colors were random |
| 05:47:10 | Widget | Well, captain_proton is always purple... |
| 05:47:13 | Widget | You're always green. |
| 05:47:24 | Widget | So is Cell_prog_insect. |
| 05:47:42 | Widget | It must use some mystical algorithm. |
| 05:47:56 | captain_proton | one could look it up if one was so inclined |
| 05:49:34 | captain_proton | throws a tantrum - I WANT MY KERNEL! |
| 05:49:44 | Widget | How much more time? |
| 05:49:50 | Widget | And how was your interview? |
| 05:50:09 | captain_proton | interview went slick |
| 05:50:28 | captain_proton | no more time :) |
| 05:50:29 | captain_proton | reboots |
| 05:52:17 | Widget | I'm freezing. |
| 05:52:29 | Widget | is away: Dinner and socks. |
| 05:55:38 | captain_proton | hmm, i see static |
| 05:57:23 | captain_proton | hahaha!! |
| 05:57:29 | captain_proton | i'm watching an infomercial! |
| 05:57:30 | captain_proton | dances |
| 05:58:47 | captain_proton | this is awesome =D |
| 06:00:18 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 06:00:21 | captain_proton | my computer has rabbit-ears |
| 06:17:17 | captain_proton | TV -sucks- at 1:20 AM |
| 06:18:14 | captain_proton | infomercials on 4 channels, pledge drive on PBS, and something i think is supposed to be a comedy show |
| 06:23:55 | MrApathyCream | there's a fancy gizmo, close to your bed, around 4x7x3, you lay on it, and close your eyes for a few hours |
| 06:24:02 | MrApathyCream | ,er, close to your tv |
| 06:24:07 | MrApathyCream | , dang, can't tell a joke |
| 06:24:34 | captain_proton | my tv is my computer =) |
| 06:25:01 | captain_proton | i'm pretty sure i've got the only computer in a 1000-mile radius with rabbit ears |
| 06:26:36 | captain_proton | wonders what happened to the enthusiasm about FS |
| 06:28:51 | MrApathyCream | considers file systems to be a boring topic |
| 06:30:50 | captain_proton | fed up with knives that just won't cut? |
| 06:30:57 | captain_proton | then welcome the new miracle blade III! |
| 06:32:19 | MrApathyCream | 4 easy payments of ... ? |
| 06:32:53 | captain_proton | dunno yet |
| 06:32:55 | captain_proton | just started |
| 06:33:00 | captain_proton | its the 'perfection series' |
| 06:33:36 | captain_proton | watch as chef joe takes the knives all the way to france, to <somethingorother> cooking school. you know what they say, the french are a tough audience. if they like these knives, they MUST be good! |
| 06:34:23 | MrApathyCream | heh, scary thing i saw that infomercial |
| 06:34:29 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:34:56 | MrApathyCream | the secret the little gravity centering ball on the blade!! |
| 06:35:10 | MrApathyCream | keep fingers off the chopping block |
| 06:35:29 | captain_proton | yep |
| 06:35:44 | MrApathyCream | looks it cut metal filings off of this sledge hammer |
| 06:35:48 | captain_proton | yes! |
| 06:35:55 | MrApathyCream | and still cuts tomatoes perfectly |
| 06:36:13 | MrApathyCream | realizes once again, he has no life |
| 06:37:04 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag flee the country? |
| 06:37:14 | captain_proton | yeah but we dragged him back |
| 06:37:31 | captain_proton | cilaantro |
| 06:38:14 | captain_proton | the slicer is $30, the 'rock n chop' is $40... |
| 06:38:40 | MrApathyCream | but what is chef joe, going to sell it for? |
| 06:38:45 | captain_proton | ONE PAYMENT OF THIRTY NINE NINETY FIVE! |
| 06:38:52 | MrApathyCream | wait there's got to be more!! |
| 06:38:54 | captain_proton | four knives, over a $100 value! |
| 06:39:07 | MrApathyCream | gives us more chef joe! |
| 06:39:30 | MrApathyCream | how bout a steak knife set |
| 06:39:40 | captain_proton | he's including it absolutely free right now |
| 06:39:58 | MrApathyCream | WOOWOO!, i'm almost there! |
| 06:40:10 | captain_proton | $180 value with all the goodies he's added |
| 06:40:11 | MrApathyCream | how bout another slicer knife |
| 06:40:52 | captain_proton | he's including the perfect juicer |
| 06:41:13 | MrApathyCream | yes, yes the perfect juicer |
| 06:41:26 | captain_proton | want the phone number? |
| 06:41:26 | MrApathyCream | chef joe really cares about us |
| 06:43:24 | MrApathyCream | cell is off buyin' the knife set |
| 06:43:25 | captain_proton | they're only accepting calls for the next 20 minutes |
| 06:44:12 | MrApathyCream | bzfs -time 1200 |
| 06:44:54 | MrApathyCream | <so i don't forget> |
| 06:45:02 | captain_proton | =) |
| 06:55:06 | captain_proton | carpenter dave! |
| 07:14:10 | MrApathyCream | zzzz |
| 07:27:59 | Cell_prog_insect | need to solve: 1/µ-(x*sin(µ*t)+y*cos(µ*t)) = 0 |
| 07:28:07 | Cell_prog_insect | i dont know if its trivial |
| 07:28:12 | Cell_prog_insect | but maybe |
| 07:28:39 | Cell_prog_insect | µ,x,y are const |
| 07:29:03 | Cell_prog_insect | t is [0,1] |
| 07:35:50 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, i know, its simple |
| 07:35:53 | Cell_prog_insect | now |
| 07:43:11 | Cell_prog_insect | oh its not that simple, shit |
| 07:43:51 | bomber | moin |
| 07:54:53 | Cell_prog_insect | need to solve: 1/µ-(x*sin(µ*t)+y*cos(µ*t)) = 0 |
| 07:57:44 | ritchie_ | hi and bye |
| 07:58:32 | Blind_Ambition | anyone awake? |
| 07:59:02 | captain_proton | one might be able to accuse me of that |
| 07:59:23 | bomber | Cell_prog_insect: what is the variable ? |
| 07:59:25 | Blind_Ambition | i just made the parthenon |
| 07:59:40 | Blind_Ambition | 66.229.146.1:5156 |
| 08:00:31 | Chestal | bzfquery 66.229.146.1 5156 |
| 08:00:33 | bzbot | Rogue: 2 players, score: 0 | Red: 1 players, score: 0 | Green: 1 players, score: 0 | |
| 08:00:39 | Chestal | bzfquerylong 66.229.146.1 5156 |
| 08:00:40 | bzbot | his blind ambition (r): 0 (0-0). John (G): 0 (0-0). paneb (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 08:00:48 | Cell_prog_insect | bomber: µ,x,y are const, t is [0,1] |
| 08:00:59 | Cell_prog_insect | µ != 0 |
| 08:01:15 | Cell_prog_insect | so t is the variable |
| 08:01:36 | Cell_prog_insect | µ should be angular velocity |
| 08:01:45 | Cell_prog_insect | but its const |
| 08:02:47 | Blind_Ambition | i take it your graphics card can't take it, capt. |
| 08:02:59 | Blind_Ambition | brb... |
| 08:03:06 | captain_proton | Blind_Ambition: hmm, no, just a bad build that tends to segfault |
| 08:03:14 | captain_proton | my graphics card can take anything bz can throw at it |
| 08:03:40 | Chestal | hmm, that's a challenge, create a world which yields < 10fps for captain proton :-) |
| 08:04:28 | captain_proton | one could generate such a thing procedurally |
| 08:04:31 | captain_proton | but i doubt its possible by hand |
| 08:06:39 | captain_proton | well, i think i'm going to head off to bed |
| 08:08:32 | bomber | Cell_prog_insect: when you suppose that x=1/µ*sin(µt) and y=1/µ*cos(µt) then you have solution ... |
| 08:09:01 | bomber | Cell then for µt=arctg(x/y) |
| 08:09:09 | Blind_Ambition | (actually, all my maps are procedural) |
| 08:09:20 | Cell_prog_insect | really, great let me recalc it |
| 08:09:22 | Blind_Ambition | (no stinking map editors here... just perl, sweet perl) |
| 08:12:04 | bomber | Cell but then you have condition also for x and y |
| 08:12:18 | Cell_prog_insect | bomber:yes |
| 08:12:46 | Cell_prog_insect | does it simplify things if u square/quadrieren both sides |
| 08:12:47 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 08:13:39 | bomber | sin²+cos²=1 |
| 08:14:53 | Cell_prog_insect | yes but i have: x^2*sin^2+y^2*cos^2 |
| 08:15:33 | Cell_prog_insect | it looks like the implizit funktion of an ellipse |
| 08:15:45 | bomber | yes |
| 08:17:16 | bomber | from where you have x² and y² |
| 08:18:24 | Cell_prog_insect | tell me how do i write x^2 as u |
| 08:18:29 | Cell_prog_insect | it looks better |
| 08:18:46 | Cell_prog_insect | x² how do i write it |
| 08:19:08 | Cell_prog_insect | ² |
| 08:19:08 | bomber | i have german keybord and i write as you but its automatic |
| 08:19:19 | bomber | you have it |
| 08:19:28 | Cell_prog_insect | no i used copy and paste |
| 08:19:33 | bomber | haha |
| 08:20:11 | bomber | key under Esc and 2 |
| 08:21:16 | Cell_prog_insect | (x sin(µt)+ y cos(µt) )² = (1/µ)² |
| 08:21:27 | Cell_prog_insect | then u get |
| 08:21:32 | bomber | aaaah..i see |
| 08:21:53 | bomber | but i mean without square |
| 08:22:44 | bomber | then you have 1/µ*sin²(µt)+1/µ*cos²(µt)=1/µ |
| 08:23:18 | Cell_prog_insect | no |
| 08:23:21 | bomber | but its only for specially x and y |
| 08:23:29 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 08:23:52 | bomber | what can you say about x and y |
| 08:25:01 | Cell_prog_insect | nothing :( |
| 08:25:19 | Cell_prog_insect | hm, wait maybe |
| 08:26:12 | Cell_prog_insect | no, its to complicated for me, now |
| 08:26:42 | bomber | i think then you can solve it only numerically |
| 08:27:26 | Cell_prog_insect | it would be enough to mind max(1/µ-(x*sin(µ*t)+y*cos(µ*t)) for t = [0,1] |
| 08:27:34 | Cell_prog_insect | but thats the same prob |
| 08:27:36 | Cell_prog_insect | i quess |
| 08:29:04 | bomber | is not |
| 08:29:22 | bomber | because you can derive and eq set to null |
| 08:30:04 | bomber | and then you have -1/µ*arctg(x/y)=tmax |
| 08:31:46 | bomber | sry +1/µ*arctg(x/y)=tmax |
| 08:32:33 | bomber | maybe you can prove it numerically |
| 08:41:34 | bomber | Cell_prog_insect: or it could be boundary...t=0 or t=1 |
| 08:57:07 | Cell_prog_insect | +1/µ*arctg(x/y)=tmax how do u get that? |
| 09:01:53 | Sniper | hi |
| 09:08:57 | bomber | Cell_prog_insect: derivation of the eq. and set to 0 (to find extrem), -(xµ*cos(µt)-yµ*sin(µt))=0 |
| 09:10:03 | bomber | Cell_prog_insect: xcos(µt)=ysin(µt) ....+1/µ*arctg(x/y)=textrem |
| 09:10:41 | bomber | then you need second derivative |
| 09:11:06 | bomber | to say it is local maximum or minimum |
| 09:12:25 | bomber | and sure you have to prove boundaries in interval...t=0 and t=1 |
| 09:15:13 | Cell_prog_insect | oh right, sorry actually i didi that already and -(xµ*cos(µt)-yµ*sin(µt)) is already the first derivate |
| 09:15:50 | Cell_prog_insect | sorry |
| 09:18:03 | Cell_prog_insect | bu thank u any way |
| 09:18:09 | Cell_prog_insect | i have to go now |
| 09:18:12 | Cell_prog_insect | bye |
| 09:28:12 | Ruudi | hello |
| 10:22:40 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 13:58:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | hei |
| 14:42:40 | guestuser | hillo |
| 14:42:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | hillohillo |
| 15:50:51 | Cell_prog_insect | hi |
| 15:51:04 | patlabor221 | hey |
| 15:51:54 | Cell_prog_insect | after long thinking i dicided to use just a 3d sphere bounding volume for collision detection |
| 15:52:09 | patlabor221 | it makes the game easyer to play |
| 15:52:10 | Cell_prog_insect | its good enough, i discovered |
| 15:52:26 | patlabor221 | yeah it usualy is |
| 15:52:40 | jpablo | why a shere and not a square ?? |
| 15:53:00 | patlabor221 | corners |
| 15:53:14 | patlabor221 | they have a tendency to get stuck on stuff |
| 15:53:18 | jpablo | oh. |
| 15:53:20 | jpablo | yeah. |
| 15:53:23 | jpablo | i have seen that on bz. |
| 15:53:49 | patlabor221 | and since you can't turn around and look at the ass end of your tank, it is kinda frustrating when you don't know what is going on |
| 15:53:53 | Cell_prog_insect | because my tanks can go every polygon and not only horizontal one, and they have angular velocity notn only around the z Axis |
| 15:56:16 | patlabor221 | cell what are you using for sound? |
| 15:56:41 | Cell_prog_insect | currently i do not have done any sound :( |
| 15:57:00 | Cell_prog_insect | and i dont know, i would prefer directX sound |
| 15:57:01 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 15:57:11 | Cell_prog_insect | but i dont know right now |
| 15:57:16 | patlabor221 | I am looking into sound libs now for my stuff |
| 15:57:23 | Cell_prog_insect | oh |
| 15:57:29 | patlabor221 | I found a perfect one for me |
| 15:57:38 | Cell_prog_insect | tell me if u find something useful |
| 15:57:39 | patlabor221 | but they are all C |
| 15:57:40 | Cell_prog_insect | really? |
| 15:57:46 | patlabor221 | fmod |
| 15:57:47 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 15:57:48 | Cell_prog_insect | oh thats bad |
| 15:57:50 | patlabor221 | but no c# |
| 15:58:03 | patlabor221 | didn't see any with c# |
| 15:58:03 | Cell_prog_insect | but i can buld a wrapper |
| 15:58:07 | Cell_prog_insect | to dll calls |
| 15:58:10 | patlabor221 | www.fmod.org |
| 15:59:39 | Cell_prog_insect | oh i watch it later when i done the more important things( i know that sound is very important too), i bookmark, thanku for the link |
| 16:00:21 | Cell_prog_insect | by the way what is the fastest way to detect if sphere and tri overlapp or not? |
| 16:00:58 | Cell_prog_insect | firs calc the distance to tri plane, and look if its smaller then radius |
| 16:01:05 | Cell_prog_insect | and then |
| 16:01:08 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 16:02:03 | Cell_prog_insect | project center of sphere on to the tri plane |
| 16:03:06 | Cell_prog_insect | and look if it lies in the scaled triangle, scale by radius from tri center |
| 16:03:36 | Cell_prog_insect | but that seems kinda unefficient to me, isnt there a better way |
| 16:04:14 | patlabor221 | I dono check gametutorials.net, they have a bunch of colision stuff |
| 16:04:40 | Cell_prog_insect | hey u have some very cool bookmarks in ur pocket:) |
| 16:05:44 | Cell_prog_insect | i think i also saw something very good @ flipcode.com |
| 16:07:24 | Dutch_Mandrake | Widget! |
| 16:10:46 | patlabor221 | flipcode has a bunch of neat stuff. |
| 16:11:21 | Cell_prog_insect | yeah |
| 16:11:40 | Cell_prog_insect | just discovering that |
| 16:12:44 | patlabor221 | and a fair amount of stuff on the alternitive languages |
| 16:12:56 | patlabor221 | I see java and Delphi stuff all the time |
| 16:13:03 | patlabor221 | not much on C# tho |
| 16:13:16 | Cell_prog_insect | its too young |
| 16:13:22 | patlabor221 | very |
| 16:15:08 | Cell_prog_insect | but believe its the most fun i ever had, programming in c++ was long time my favorite over java, which i used rarely, but c# and the .Net framework is pure fun |
| 16:15:47 | Cell_prog_insect | though its not portable now, it sure will be in the future |
| 16:15:56 | patlabor221 | I only use languages that work with visual assist, can't work withouth it |
| 16:16:16 | Cell_prog_insect | visual assist? |
| 16:16:30 | Cell_prog_insect | what is that? |
| 16:17:05 | Cell_prog_insect | an development IDE |
| 16:38:27 | Widget | hihihi |
| 16:38:51 | patlabor221 | cell it |
| 16:38:59 | patlabor221 | it's a plyugin for visual studio |
| 16:39:05 | patlabor221 | www.wholetomato.com |
| 16:39:10 | patlabor221 | hey widget |
| 17:01:39 | Cell_prog_insect | patlabor221:most of that features are also in vc7.0 |
| 17:03:48 | Cell_prog_insect | there is even more: expand code functions and parts like a tree |
| 17:09:06 | patlabor221 | yes but this one is just nice |
| 17:09:18 | patlabor221 | and they have a .net version that makes it even nicer |
| 17:09:27 | patlabor221 | I can't use VC7 it' buggy |
| 17:14:02 | Cell_prog_insect | itry it |
| 17:14:24 | patlabor221 | I have |
| 17:14:34 | patlabor221 | we have templates that crash the compiler |
| 17:14:41 | Cell_prog_insect | oh |
| 17:14:44 | Widget | captain_proton! |
| 17:14:48 | captain_proton | Widget! |
| 17:14:50 | Cell_prog_insect | i mean the assistant |
| 17:14:54 | patlabor221 | I can't use it for production work |
| 17:15:02 | patlabor221 | and its SLLLLLOOOOOOOOWWWWW |
| 17:15:02 | Cell_prog_insect | ok |
| 17:15:46 | patlabor221 | ohhh yeah the asistant is great |
| 17:15:52 | patlabor221 | everyone I show it to loves it |
| 17:15:59 | patlabor221 | we got it for all our devs here |
| 17:16:00 | Cell_prog_insect | just installed |
| 17:16:15 | Cell_prog_insect | now lets see :) |
| 17:16:30 | patlabor221 | don't know how it works with C# tho |
| 17:16:46 | Cell_prog_insect | do i have to do smthing to invoke it |
| 17:17:03 | patlabor221 | in vc6 it's just allways on |
| 17:17:17 | patlabor221 | and it adds a toolbar for it's prefs |
| 17:17:31 | patlabor221 | I have never used it in .net |
| 17:18:12 | patlabor221 | cap: how did that job interview go yesterday? |
| 17:18:28 | captain_proton | patlabor221: slick :) |
| 17:18:34 | patlabor221 | gonna get it? |
| 17:18:44 | captain_proton | hopefully |
| 17:19:01 | captain_proton | they were thrilled that i know php & UI design |
| 17:20:18 | Widget | captain_proton knows everything. |
| 17:20:46 | captain_proton | of course |
| 17:20:56 | patlabor221 | well I'd say he is knowelgeble in anumber of subjects |
| 17:21:45 | patlabor221 | damnit I forgot to bring in the sound mananger |
| 17:22:21 | captain_proton | you dispute that i know everything? |
| 17:22:33 | Cell_prog_insect | cell knows almost nothing, but thats still a lot for an insect :) |
| 17:22:34 | patlabor221 | windows..... |
| 17:22:44 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, true :)\ |
| 17:22:49 | patlabor221 | and my birthday |
| 17:23:12 | patlabor221 | and a word that rymes with orange. |
| 17:23:20 | captain_proton | its funny - the tv tuner software under windows crashed when i adjusted the antenna...under linux the stuff i hacked together is smooth |
| 17:23:43 | patlabor221 | you sure you didn't pull out the card? |
| 17:24:02 | captain_proton | pull out a PCI card? |
| 17:24:25 | patlabor221 | when you adjusted the antena |
| 17:24:34 | patlabor221 | wigleing and all |
| 17:25:01 | captain_proton | um, yes |
| 17:25:19 | captain_proton | thats what the screws are for |
| 17:25:22 | patlabor221 | well there are a lot of companys that have no clue what they are doing when they make drivers |
| 17:25:44 | patlabor221 | I had problems just geting the damned things to install when I tried a tuner card |
| 17:27:47 | captain_proton | hmm, i would expect more from this company, but it works, in any case |
| 17:28:08 | patlabor221 | what co.? |
| 17:28:11 | captain_proton | my next task after writing something to stream the video over to my roomate's computer is a little userland program that handles the remote :) |
| 17:28:17 | captain_proton | pinnacle |
| 17:28:33 | patlabor221 | ohhh there drivers suck ass |
| 17:28:42 | patlabor221 | allways have problems with them |
| 17:28:50 | captain_proton | heh |
| 17:28:57 | patlabor221 | gone through a number of video capture boards |
| 17:28:59 | captain_proton | well, i'm not using their drivers, so all is good |
| 17:29:35 | patlabor221 | this is true |
| 17:29:50 | patlabor221 | I think all the smart people make the hardware |
| 17:30:08 | patlabor221 | and then a band of retarted monkeys makes the drivers in asembly |
| 17:30:32 | patlabor221 | then they ship it |
| 17:30:51 | patlabor221 | and my old roomate buys it |
| 17:31:00 | captain_proton | well, the smart people are at brooktree |
| 17:31:11 | captain_proton | they made all the tuner hardware and stuff |
| 17:31:24 | patlabor221 | there ya go |
| 17:31:29 | captain_proton | then pinnacle slaps it on a board and writes something resembling a driver |
| 17:31:38 | patlabor221 | in about an hour |
| 17:31:58 | captain_proton | whereas linux just has a generic driver for all cards based on the bt848/878 chips |
| 17:32:09 | patlabor221 | yeah refrence and all |
| 17:32:37 | patlabor221 | I do that with my video cards, never run the vendor drivers, allways the refs |
| 17:32:47 | patlabor221 | some times the devs |
| 17:34:00 | captain_proton | was ponderin hookin up the genesis |
| 17:55:16 | captain_proton | wow this channel is boring |
| 17:58:38 | iLLf8d | yeah it is |
| 17:58:46 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 17:58:51 | iLLf8d | cap what kinda vidcard you have? |
| 17:59:07 | patlabor221 | food time |
| 17:59:13 | iLLf8d | I've got a map that doesn't run, tho both halves run fine |
| 17:59:15 | captain_proton | vidcard? gf3 |
| 17:59:22 | iLLf8d | suspects its too much hardware for his setup |
| 17:59:26 | iLLf8d | can you test a map for me |
| 17:59:51 | captain_proton | likely |
| 18:00:02 | iLLf8d | I made a terrain crude mapper and have been testing it (this case its a maze) |
| 18:00:26 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 18:02:36 | captain_proton | trots off to go grab the genesis |
| 18:02:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 18:02:44 | Widget | hihihi |
| 18:03:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | Widget woke? or off from work? |
| 18:04:12 | Widget | Woke up. And I'm a student. |
| 18:04:16 | Widget | And on holiday. :) |
| 18:04:27 | [BZ]Ruudi | holiday what kind of? |
| 18:04:47 | Widget | Michaelmas term hasn't started yet at my uni. |
| 18:04:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | got holyday here...today some years ago estonia broke free from soviet union |
| 18:04:59 | iLLf8d | can someone with vidcard gf2 gts or better |
| 18:05:04 | iLLf8d | try to connect to mazetest.bzw |
| 18:05:10 | iLLf8d | oops |
| 18:05:17 | iLLf8d | try to test to terrain bulder maze test |
| 18:05:21 | iLLf8d | l8tr.ath.cx 5155 |
| 18:05:23 | iLLf8d | and tell me if it works |
| 18:06:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | it works |
| 18:06:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | laser not good in maze :P |
| 18:07:07 | iLLf8d | it works suck |
| 18:07:17 | iLLf8d | that just means my machines too much of a dog to join |
| 18:07:19 | iLLf8d | damnit! |
| 18:07:28 | iLLf8d | wonder what the block count is |
| 18:07:28 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 18:07:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm i got tnt2 32mb works ok |
| 18:08:46 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 18:08:51 | iLLf8d | mine just hangs |
| 18:09:04 | iLLf8d | makes no sense I could swear i've gone into worlds with more blocks too |
| 18:09:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno connecting took some time but works ok |
| 18:09:17 | iLLf8d | I just tested it again still same hang |
| 18:09:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | i got e4 bz |
| 18:09:35 | iLLf8d | 839 blocks |
| 18:09:36 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 18:09:58 | iLLf8d | lemme try to make the long areas solid blocks shorten the block count |
| 18:09:59 | iLLf8d | maybe that'll help |
| 18:10:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | needs faster connection to divx download |
| 18:10:40 | iLLf8d | Thanks [BZ]Ruudi |
| 18:10:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | you welcome |
| 18:10:49 | iLLf8d | at least I know its not a bad world file |
| 18:11:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | no works ok for me would be interesting to play on that maze :) |
| 18:33:33 | iLLf8d | cool I got it working |
| 18:33:45 | iLLf8d | yeah its a block count issue I think |
| 18:33:51 | iLLf8d | I made the borders of the field 4 blocks |
| 18:33:54 | iLLf8d | instead of uhm |
| 18:34:08 | iLLf8d | 320 |
| 18:34:20 | iLLf8d | and it let me in =P |
| 18:34:24 | captain_proton | wow |
| 18:34:28 | captain_proton | i remembered how to play sonic |
| 18:34:32 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 18:34:43 | iLLf8d | [BZ]Ruudi: you make maps at all? |
| 18:37:02 | captain_proton | however, xawtv is evli |
| 18:37:08 | captain_proton | continues the search for something better |
| 18:37:45 | iLLf8d | I was in blockbuster last night burning off some time |
| 18:37:48 | iLLf8d | that xbox is pretty slick |
| 18:37:55 | iLLf8d | was eyeing a bunch of games |
| 18:42:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | no i don't do maps |
| 18:43:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | needs to work...but there is no more boring thing than makin mysql/php stuff |
| 18:43:36 | Fluffy | hi |
| 18:44:56 | Fluffy | that game just now in ducati was really tough! |
| 18:46:18 | Chestal | yep |
| 18:47:28 | captain_proton | ugh...there has GOT to be something better than xawtv |
| 19:02:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | ducati got quality :) |
| 19:02:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | best of bzflag comes together |
| 19:07:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | is there any point to upgrade win2000 to xp? |
| 19:14:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm seems like maya 4.5 beta is out...they come up real fast with new versions |
| 19:28:41 | patlabor221 | XP is more stable and faster then 2k |
| 19:28:49 | patlabor221 | but it uses a bit more ram |
| 19:28:58 | [BZ]Ruudi | it really is faster? |
| 19:29:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | i got 196 ram |
| 19:29:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | not mutch |
| 19:31:10 | patlabor221 | that should be enough ram |
| 19:31:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | win2000 does me sometimes pang reboot just like electric brokedown... |
| 19:31:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | it does same on my friends computer sometimes |
| 19:32:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | i got ups...can't be coused by power levels |
| 19:32:10 | patlabor221 | XP seesm about 10% faster for me |
| 19:32:16 | patlabor221 | and I don't crash |
| 19:32:25 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm what apps you run most? |
| 19:32:32 | patlabor221 | dev studio |
| 19:32:34 | patlabor221 | photoshop |
| 19:32:36 | patlabor221 | office |
| 19:32:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | i see |
| 19:32:39 | patlabor221 | winamp |
| 19:32:45 | patlabor221 | all the little stuff |
| 19:32:59 | patlabor221 | bzflag runs fine |
| 19:33:15 | patlabor221 | I have heard of issues geting drivers for older hardware |
| 19:33:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | maybe i'll try that xp soon |
| 19:33:30 | patlabor221 | and sompe problems with old dos stuff |
| 19:33:42 | patlabor221 | but all the regular win32 apps run fine |
| 19:33:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | i don't care about that stuff... |
| 19:33:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | i mean that old stuff |
| 19:34:03 | patlabor221 | if you run the new "my first windows" theme it's a bit anoying |
| 19:34:09 | patlabor221 | but it can all be turned off |
| 19:34:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | i need to run music apps... |
| 19:34:14 | captain_proton | vunterful |
| 19:34:21 | patlabor221 | I have mine looking almost exactly like 2k |
| 19:34:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | my first win that got real wide windowbars |
| 19:34:28 | [BZ]Ruudi | and so |
| 19:34:33 | akira_ | hello |
| 19:34:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi akira |
| 19:34:40 | patlabor221 | the start menu is colosal |
| 19:34:45 | patlabor221 | hey akira |
| 19:34:52 | akira_ | whats colosal? |
| 19:34:54 | captain_proton | in an hour i get to go get a bone fragment removed from my gums |
| 19:35:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | dam i had my beehive linux lookin cool but ..yeah no soft for linux |
| 19:35:06 | captain_proton | is lubbin this experience |
| 19:35:08 | patlabor221 | the start menu in the sefalut XP install |
| 19:35:20 | patlabor221 | ick bone frag. |
| 19:35:46 | patlabor221 | akira: cap made me a linux verison of my libs, that dirent stuff worked. |
| 19:36:05 | akira_ | nice man :) |
| 19:36:24 | akira_ | do you have a working example with "named pipes" for win32? |
| 19:36:31 | patlabor221 | yeah so far we got video, texture, time, and menu managers |
| 19:36:34 | akira_ | under linux/unix everything is so easy :)) |
| 19:37:29 | patlabor221 | I don't even know what a named pipe |
| 19:37:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.hot.ee/mesik2pp/shot.jpg my old linux shot |
| 19:37:38 | captain_proton | the upside is that hopefully after i get this removed i'll be able to fully close my mouth without getting poked in the cheek |
| 19:37:51 | akira_ | patlabor221: a fifo |
| 19:38:01 | akira_ | but on the filesystem ... |
| 19:38:26 | patlabor221 | no never done anything like that |
| 19:38:34 | patlabor221 | what do you need it for? |
| 19:38:53 | captain_proton | win32 IPC is in the stone age |
| 19:39:04 | patlabor221 | ipc? |
| 19:39:09 | captain_proton | interprocess communication |
| 19:39:14 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:39:17 | patlabor221 | we are very limited in that |
| 19:39:27 | patlabor221 | DDE or mesages that's about it |
| 19:40:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | someone runs gnome2? |
| 19:40:32 | akira_ | captain_proton: exactly :)) |
| 19:40:43 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: i do |
| 19:40:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | what distro? |
| 19:40:53 | akira_ | captain_proton: i was playing around for a nice way to do platformindependet createprocess-calls |
| 19:41:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | or compiled by yourself proton? |
| 19:41:25 | captain_proton | everything is compiled my myself :) |
| 19:41:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.hot.ee/mesik2pp/ some my old bb and fluxbox themes |
| 19:42:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm but what distro proton? from scratch? |
| 19:42:18 | captain_proton | mostly |
| 19:42:21 | akira_ | for unix i decided myself to fork early in the appage and communicate through a pipe so i got the "real app" and the forked "executor" which (if receives a command) forkes again and execeve the new app ... |
| 19:42:28 | captain_proton | i hesitate to say lfs because my boot scripts are my own |
| 19:43:09 | akira_ | captain_proton: under win32 i use the CreateProcess stuff .. but i would like to have the "unix" way .. then it would be more the same structure ... |
| 19:43:12 | Fanta | hi there |
| 19:43:27 | [BZ]Ruudi | i'd like a gnome linux kind of desktop linux...beehive is creat one day i should make gnome linux out from it |
| 19:43:40 | captain_proton | akira_: hmm, i doubt you'll find anything |
| 19:46:44 | akira_ | captain_proton: i think so .. there is some stuff like a named pipe .. but thats not that easy it is under linux/unix ... |
| 19:46:50 | akira_ | i LOVE posix :)) |
| 19:47:07 | captain_proton | argg, there has GOT to be a v4l player that uses SDL |
| 19:48:14 | akira_ | mplayer? |
| 19:48:36 | captain_proton | mplayer does v4l? |
| 19:49:07 | akira_ | think so |
| 19:49:21 | akira_ | friend of mine is watching tv with mplayer |
| 19:49:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | avifile? |
| 19:50:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | was best movie player in linux... |
| 19:50:27 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:50:39 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: not looking for a movie player, looking for a v4l player |
| 19:51:16 | akira_ | mplayer rocks them all |
| 19:51:19 | akira_ | mplayer rocks them all to DEATH |
| 19:51:30 | captain_proton | i like xine myself |
| 19:51:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | XawTV? |
| 19:52:12 | captain_proton | xawtv is the devil |
| 19:52:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | well avifile had best video quality and not messed up with badly designed skins... |
| 19:53:25 | akira_ | ruudi .. believe me .. mplayer rocks them all |
| 19:53:27 | captain_proton | hmm, i can't say i notice any difference between the quality with avifile vs mplayer vs xine |
| 19:53:38 | akira_ | xine is second behind mplayer ... |
| 19:54:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | well to me there was little stripes in xine and mplayr most of time just hanged... |
| 19:54:13 | akira_ | the quality depends on the used codec -> ffmpeg or libavcodec is the best .. even for win32 |
| 19:54:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | but that was allmost half a year ago |
| 19:55:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | i even dunno right now what codecs i got |
| 19:55:14 | captain_proton | hmm, i haven't had problems with xine for over a year |
| 19:55:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | right now i mean |
| 19:55:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | just installed kind of pack |
| 19:55:34 | captain_proton | recompiles mplayer |
| 19:56:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | i compiled evolution in beehive i cooced a dinner in that time :P |
| 19:56:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | cooked |
| 19:56:35 | captain_proton | ... oh my |
| 19:56:43 | captain_proton | mplayer.c:2695: `dvdnav_stream_change_event_t' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 19:56:46 | captain_proton | wtf |
| 19:56:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | and i got 1Gz athlon |
| 19:56:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | heh |
| 19:57:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | take avifile :P maybe you will like it...sure won't play em all |
| 19:57:59 | [BZ]Ruudi | and by the way new winamp3 really does the trick in win |
| 19:58:02 | akira_ | xine has the first one with working cool gui -> mplayer worked on the features and the speed |
| 19:58:17 | akira_ | now the speed is fine and now they added the gui |
| 19:58:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | plays video and plays even whith himself if you dont give him something :P |
| 19:58:33 | akira_ | ruudi : aviplay sucks ... |
| 19:58:44 | akira_ | they only can play avi files ... |
| 19:58:54 | captain_proton | it would appear that dvdnav support in mplayer is broken |
| 19:58:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | heh aviplay is nice and clean and runs codec no more needed |
| 19:58:59 | [BZ]Ruudi | nothing more... |
| 19:59:09 | akira_ | captain_proton: does mplayer not compile? |
| 19:59:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | and avifile got vide compression tools |
| 19:59:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | video compression...and cut and so |
| 19:59:39 | akira_ | ruudi give mplayer or xine a try .. aviplay is behind all of them |
| 19:59:39 | captain_proton | akira_: not with dvdnav enabled |
| 19:59:44 | akira_ | captain_proton: :) |
| 19:59:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | i have tryed em all |
| 20:00:01 | akira_ | you didnt need any dvdnav etc .. they coded all stuff by themselfs |
| 20:00:05 | captain_proton | doesn't matter, i rarely use mplayer anyway |
| 20:00:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | still like aviplay just compiled best and worked best... |
| 20:00:23 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah everyone got own |
| 20:00:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | that's the linux world :) |
| 20:00:40 | akira_ | ruudi .. you dont know what you miss .. thats not the linuxworld :) |
| 20:00:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | uses winamp on nowdays |
| 20:01:13 | akira_ | cya all |
| 20:01:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | well linuxworld is a nice world if there only would be some soft :( |
| 20:01:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | ncu |
| 20:01:34 | akira_ | ruudi .. there is everything :) |
| 20:01:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | nop |
| 20:01:46 | captain_proton | no? |
| 20:01:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | no |
| 20:01:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | linux is missing most |
| 20:02:08 | captain_proton | like? |
| 20:02:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | well most was rude...but most from my needs |
| 20:02:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | there is no any music macin app |
| 20:02:46 | captain_proton | give me an example |
| 20:02:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | not a one |
| 20:02:51 | captain_proton | music macin? |
| 20:02:58 | [BZ]Ruudi | that would be usable in studio |
| 20:03:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | and was no a good vec graphics not a good html editor with ftp support |
| 20:03:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | no movies editing... |
| 20:03:44 | captain_proton | html editor -> vim |
| 20:03:50 | captain_proton | movie editing -> cinelerra |
| 20:04:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | no |
| 20:04:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | that wont do the trick for normal user :) |
| 20:04:23 | [BZ]Ruudi | you can do code in notpad too..but not what i'm talkin about |
| 20:04:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | till big companis wont port theyr soft to linux it wont win :P platform is good but no soft |
| 20:05:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | macromedia, emagic, stainberg...emagic just went to mac only :( |
| 20:07:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | i think platform can be free but good and oriented application needs a firm that works it out...teamwork can't be done free |
| 20:07:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | but nevermind i'll steal my win and hope it won't crash |
| 21:49:35 | captain_proton | ahhhh |
| 21:49:39 | captain_proton | this bone fragment was huge |
| 22:05:21 | blair | protty protty prot prot |
| 22:06:00 | captain_proton | blair: it sucks to be me |
| 22:06:09 | blair | sucks to be meq? |
| 22:06:20 | captain_proton | not meq, me |
| 22:06:25 | blair | oh |
| 22:06:30 | blair | they finally found you out? |
| 22:06:37 | blair | you have just come out of the closet? |
| 22:06:39 | blair | ;) |
| 22:06:58 | captain_proton | just got a bone fragment removed from my gums that surfaced 5 days after my wisdom teeth removal |
| 22:07:12 | blair | it could be a tumor |
| 22:07:52 | captain_proton | nope, was bone |
| 22:08:08 | captain_proton | about a centimeter long, maybe a half centimeter wide, and pointy |
| 22:08:13 | blair | wow, metric system |
| 22:08:19 | blair | when did you start using that? |
| 22:08:35 | captain_proton | i've used that for a while |
| 22:08:53 | captain_proton | whilst the rest of america remains in ignorance |
| 22:12:32 | blair | yeah, gotta respect the metric system |
| 22:12:40 | blair | buy your gas in gallons? |
| 22:12:44 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 22:12:46 | jacques | well some places in CA list metric distances on their highway signs |
| 22:13:01 | blair | little more progressive there? |
| 22:13:17 | captain_proton | california and progressive in the same sentence? |
| 22:13:36 | blair | just ordered a subscription to adbusters... |
| 22:13:44 | jacques | but then some places in Houston list street names in Korean, so it might not mean much |
| 22:13:49 | blair | maybe not... didn't they legalize pot? |
| 22:14:03 | jacques | who CA? |
| 22:14:16 | jacques | i wish the whole damn US would just legalize it |
| 22:14:17 | blair | our fucking gov't is retarded, shelving medical pot and the such... |
| 22:14:39 | blair | apparently the us gets edgy when we liberalize... |
| 22:15:32 | captain_proton | speaking of which |
| 22:15:38 | captain_proton | when we gonna bust out the webdesign? |
| 22:15:51 | blair | well, what kinda tools are we using? |
| 22:15:55 | blair | php, xml? |
| 22:15:58 | blair | flash? |
| 22:16:05 | blair | who is hosting? |
| 22:16:16 | blair | i don't have beans for hosting ability... |
| 22:16:20 | blair | i know you do... |
| 22:16:23 | captain_proton | i'll host |
| 22:16:45 | blair | i suppose you have some pretty templates too? |
| 22:16:52 | captain_proton | hmm, not yet |
| 22:16:52 | blair | i wanna do some mad content |
| 22:16:56 | captain_proton | i could table something up |
| 22:16:59 | blair | maybe a little feature animation... |
| 22:17:00 | captain_proton | <-- table mastah |
| 22:17:09 | blair | you should show me how to do these "tables" |
| 22:17:25 | blair | we do it all in xml, then render with xslt? |
| 22:17:33 | captain_proton | eww |
| 22:17:47 | blair | ok |
| 22:17:48 | captain_proton | swallows some blood |
| 22:17:48 | blair | why not? |
| 22:18:02 | blair | man i swallowed blood when some guy split my nose playing soccer |
| 22:18:08 | captain_proton | because i have a religious aversion to xslt |
| 22:18:15 | blair | why is that? |
| 22:18:31 | captain_proton | because its so...eww |
| 22:18:35 | blair | because it is an elegant method of producing multiple different documents from your xml? |
| 22:18:48 | blair | using different styles |
| 22:18:52 | captain_proton | ... elegant? |
| 22:19:05 | blair | its all about the transformations baby |
| 22:19:24 | blair | java applets allowed? |
| 22:20:10 | captain_proton | no |
| 22:20:15 | captain_proton | java applets = evil |
| 22:20:24 | captain_proton | hmm, blair |
| 22:20:29 | captain_proton | know of anything better than xawtv? |
| 22:21:56 | blair | wtf, java applets == evil? no |
| 22:22:19 | captain_proton | blair: yes, because that means i'd have to set up the jre and all |
| 22:22:39 | blair | oh man, thats soooo much work |
| 22:22:42 | blair | takes all of five seconds |
| 22:22:47 | blair | wtf is xawtv? |
| 22:23:07 | captain_proton | v4l player |
| 22:23:49 | blair | wtf are the screenshots? |
| 22:24:01 | blair | whats wrong with it? |
| 22:24:06 | blair | cruddy interface? |
| 22:24:21 | captain_proton | cruddy interface, doesn't play nice with xv |
| 22:24:30 | captain_proton | xaw = eviler than java applets |
| 22:25:22 | blair | so we are gonna do our website in plain text then? |
| 22:26:09 | blair | - val evil = fn x => false; |
| 22:26:10 | blair | val evil = fn : 'a -> bool |
| 22:26:10 | blair | - evil "java applets"; |
| 22:26:10 | blair | val it = false : bool |
| 22:26:16 | blair | no, java applets are not evil. |
| 22:28:34 | blair | ah, me slackware cd must roast |
| 22:33:38 | blair | fucking ms windows |
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| 23:02:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 23:03:31 | paul | hi |
| 23:04:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | huh just saw Mulholland Drive awesome it was |
| 23:04:08 | paul | mulholland drive? |
| 23:04:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | movie |
| 23:04:45 | paul | ah. |
| 23:05:06 | paul | just watched "Carlito's Way" - awesome movie too. :) |
| 23:05:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | David Lynch's first movie i have seen |
| 23:05:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | but it blow me :) |
| 23:05:58 | paul | who's in it? |
| 23:06:11 | paul | isnt well up on movies, as might be obvious |
| 23:06:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno about actors |
| 23:06:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | but see it you never want a deniro or someone into movie like that :) |
| 23:07:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | anyway maybe you know how to fix winamp sync problem if i start movie it's bit out of sync if i slide movie back or forward abit it goes allright... |
| 23:07:34 | paul | http://www.mulhollanddrive.com/ |
| 23:07:52 | paul | no idea.. dont have winamp. |
| 23:07:58 | [BZ]Ruudi | ok |
| 23:08:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | just downloaded it today winamp 3 is out and shows movies and playlist and stuff good one... |
| 23:09:09 | paul | ah. |
| 23:09:19 | paul | a remote guess: video drivers. |
| 23:09:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno... |
| 23:10:21 | paul | doesnt know much about windows unfortunately. |
| 23:10:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | in linux i used avifile worked allright...but yeah win mediaplayer is a bit sucky |
| 23:11:11 | paul | answer is obvious so. |
| 23:11:13 | paul | stick with linux. |
| 23:11:14 | paul | :) |
| 23:11:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | oh i'd like to but cant |
| 23:11:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | anyway there is no that good thing as winamp is now in linux.. :) |
| 23:12:01 | paul | xmms |
| 23:12:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | no movies :) |
| 23:12:18 | paul | xine |
| 23:12:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | anyway that doesn't matter |
| 23:12:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | no soft i need there.. |
| 23:17:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | ok bye |
| 23:19:54 | blair | die ruudi |
| 23:19:58 | blair | linux owns your soul |
| 23:20:07 | blair | hacked up that page yet prot? |
| 23:23:59 | captain_proton | fraid not |
| 23:24:38 | captain_proton | can't really work through the pain right now |
| 23:24:57 | blair | dear, go smoke some pot |
| 23:25:36 | captain_proton | (a) i don't smoke, (b) pot would raise my blood pressure, increasing the bleeding |
| 23:25:53 | blair | proton proton protty prot prot boy |
| 23:26:16 | blair | (a) you should smoke, and (b) pot will speed up the healing process |
| 23:26:32 | captain_proton | no it won't, for exactly the reason i gave |
| 23:27:15 | blair | thats ok, you would probably go to jail for longer than a murderer anyway |
| 23:27:28 | captain_proton | not in boulder |
| 23:27:37 | blair | well ain't you in luck |
| 23:28:10 | captain_proton | whats this? |
| 23:28:12 | blair | heres something to ease your pain |
| 23:28:17 | blair | ' |
| 23:29:37 | blair | now if you don't mind, i am going to read the globe and mail |
| 23:30:04 | captain_proton | have fun |
| 23:30:22 | blair | hey, is there alot of propaganda against iraq down there right now? |
| 23:33:36 | captain_proton | hmm, to an extent |
| 23:35:35 | blair | you heard of the software lumber agreement prot? |
| 23:35:41 | blair | er, softwood |
| 23:36:27 | captain_proton | nope |
| 23:37:41 | sussudio | think putting the pcb of a harddisk that wont respond in the fridge would do any good? |
| 23:38:08 | blair | i'd say give the sucker a shot of whiskey |
| 23:38:13 | blair | that outta kick it into gear |
| 23:38:23 | sussudio | snort. |
| 23:39:43 | captain_proton | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 23:39:43 | blair | well wtf suss, try it |
| 23:40:07 | blair | if it works, shove it up your ass, and if it doesn't, do the same |
| 23:40:11 | sussudio | i hate seagate. |
| 23:40:39 | blair | well i love rebate |
| 23:41:09 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 23:42:57 | blair | wow, look at the new fence in the west bank |
| 23:43:23 | blair | sup cream, wanna play some flag? |
| 23:44:05 | MrApathyCream | no time thxs |
| 23:44:28 | sussudio | hm. gerbiltrap. for some reason i was expecting a picture of richard gere. |
| 23:46:14 | blair | where is that rodent? |
| 23:47:17 | jacques | you are the rodent |
| 23:47:24 | jacques | the players are |
| 23:48:51 | blair | last time i played gerbil on his own level i owned his silly ratass |
| 23:48:59 | blair | cat and mouse style |
| 23:51:20 | jacques | heh |
| 23:51:43 | jacques | i never have the time to learn all the secrets on his maps |
| 23:57:57 | sussudio | bzfquerylong jzaun 5157 |
